💬│palia-discussions

[unreal pilot]

My understanding unfortunately is that connectivity issues / lag / rendering issues are pretty common on the switch.

[rare pine]

Yeap. the maji market mini games are near unplayable because of the lag.

[reef egret]

does the votes in home plots accumulate every week? or does it restart?

[unreal pilot]

Generally when I'm playing on the switch (when i don't have access to my PC) I just go fishing at my house pond and don't leave.

[unreal pilot]

Restarts

[frosty girder]

Hope there’s a upcoming patch, I haven’t played it on my switch in ages lol mostly play on my pc, but decided today would be a bring your switch to work day 😅

[unreal pilot]

Bring my switch to work days are the best! Sorry the Switch isn't cooperating with you

[olive carbon]

There will be a patch soon, likely next week, but I don't think switch players are holding their breath about fixes for them since this last update has been really rough yet they released an article on how well they've figured out switch optimization like, last week lol

[frosty girder]

It’s ok, I still get to do the quests, just get the connection error after a bit

[warm python]

insert obama giving obama a medal pic here

[olive carbon]

"Thanks obama" -Obama

[reef egret]

oh, thank u for answering

[old tree]

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[loud axle]

I'm not sure we know that for sure - didn't they take the entire month of December off last year?

[olive carbon]

Yes I imagine they will be off for the holiday since they did take time off last year.

[rare pine]

Yeah. they went on break right after the switch release. Which was.... December 14th?

[untold sluice]

Nah, I love an alpine zone with some snow. Something more like the Alps would go hard in this game given how verticality is crucial to map design given the movement

Also a good desert I don't hate...volcano zones are mid though. Like we get it...the floor is lava oh no

My most wanted is definitely swamp, but given the state of water being a teleport they'll need swimming first...that or I'm just trudging through knee high water all the time, which is fine

But personally I think they need more "normal" zones. Elderwoods is a solid thing to focus on as an "endgame" map area but I'd prefer something like Harvest Meadows and just rolling fields and mounts or something. This game needs a few more anchors in the "mundane" before it needs to jump to more extreme biomes

Kilima is so small it doesn't feel like a rolling hills biome at all, especially with the cliffs everywhere all around, the farm area is especially disappointing. Hopefully they make the map better in the future with more complexity once we get the Switch 2.

[loud axle]

This is already the like... fifth variation of the map we've seen. Part of the problem of why their development is so slow is that they just keep redoing the same things over and over again instead of doing it right the first time and moving on to other tasks.

[fiery perch]

They did, but there is a chance that they'll probably have at least 1 more patch. Esp since that would give a good opportunity for them to release a possible winter/snow-themed plot skin.

[rare pine]

Bahari City could've been hype too. Even just as a hub.

[fiery perch]

• usually, their login rewards for potato pods lately, have always ended a day before patch days pretty consistently. but we'll see

[untold sluice]

Fair, although I do imagine...like most games I follow in Early Access phases...a lot of the map design is actually just waiting on functionality that takes much longer to code...so the level designers get way too much time to putz around and rework over and over.

However, imo, they need to focus more on volume of locations...the problem is they've sorta tied locations to story.

Imo, just drop some variant biomes based on ones we have. Give me Kilima rolling hills without the cliffs, give me Bahari without the beach, etc.

Like, I don't care if I'm farming the same Kilima stuff again, I just need more location variety

[loud axle]

Oh 100% I agree. I would have expected at least two villages and four biomes by now.

Like, I'd rather Kilima be it's own map in and of itself - and then make Kilima Hills / Kilima Outskirts / whatever the "adventure zone."

And like you said, Harvest Meadows would have been a great second village to unlock / visit eventually, with Harvest Fields being its outlier map.

[untold sluice]

Yeah, I'd love like..."Kilima Lake foothills"...or "Bahari Highlands" that are transition maps attached to the core maps that are just more focused versions of those maps with nobody in them except the generic animals and resource spawners.

Really feel like this game is heavily limited by how small the map and zones are, and no new content addresses it at all because it's all one off pretty level design (temples) that doesn't do anything at all to solve the core problem...which is how repetitive the game feels.

[loud axle]

I think having the village be larger and its own map would allow them to actually embrace the MMO side of the game as well by enlarging the player count on those village maps. Would be nice to see some actual hustle and bustle.

[untold sluice]

Like neat, I spent 1 hour doing a temple....welp, all that level design may as well not exist anymore because it's just dead assets after we used it once. This is an MMO, make it a dungeon or something

[untold sluice]

Also 100%, it also gives them more freedom to make the village itself complex instead of it having to also run all the natural areas around it.

I'm really hoping as they add new people they add more houses and key locations to Kilima and make it a bit bigger over time to take up the map.

Like Daiya farms should take up the entire west side of the map and instead it's just empty fields they don't utilize for crops at all...and it's just this little tiny garden area.

[rare pine]

Turning the temples into instanced dungeons would've been such a smart move. Could've used them for weekly/monthly raids, special activities etc.

[loud axle]

Sounds like we have very much the same ideas on what we wanted Palia to be lol.

I've never understood why the Pavel Mines are just a little system of tunnels running in the middle of Bahari and not, y'know, an instanced dungeon you can do once a day or whatever with friends for unique resources, bugs, fish, etc.

[untold sluice]

100%, reset the level each week and throw an RNG lootbox at the end...like SOMETHING. Throw in guild currency or zeki coins...anything

[fiery perch]

not to mention, it could open up cooperative interactions with it and help from other players to complete them. so people could, you know, progress through the story a bit better.

[untold sluice]

Given the layout it definitely looks like they intended it to link to some kind of instanced mine system. That little loop on the second floor seems like it led to a door and it goes nowhere, not to mention the mines that are a door that leads into a little room and nothing else?

[rare pine]

I've said it a millions times but the temples should've been a group activity.

[fiery perch]

Even if it was just standing on a pressure plate, hitting a button/lever, etc from another player, to open up another path or something... it still would be better than what we have now, imho

[fiery perch]

It's okay. We can say it more often together

[untold sluice]

It's just, imo, such a waste of an asset kit. Like they made such pretty iconic locations for what? A few text blurps?

[loud axle]

That are entirely empty too, yep.

[untold sluice]

Maybe they planned on that and the lack of combat (and the amount of time it is taking to add it) may have gotten in the way of that.

[fiery perch]

Still also wish we could of had a little area for a flea-market type spot. Where people can build and decorate their own stalls, so they could have their own little "shop", too.

[untold sluice]

But like, I don't see why just adding procedural versions of the game we have for now and then just throwing monsters in the mix later is something they aren't tabling. Like we play the game without combat, just give us more stuff to do.

[loud axle]

I don't know if that's a more promising thought - that they actually did want to make this a game worth playing - or it's just more depressing that they went "eh not worth it" lol

[untold sluice]

Yeah, the Maji Market area (as much as I find it to be a lazy bit of level design that is just not interesting to look at) could have been this when Maji wasn't going.

[untold sluice]

I mean, it's pretty clear they are making combat as we speak, but who knows if its just lack of labor, overdoing and redoing combat over and over to the point nothing is getting done, or lack of staff...but like, they definitely are going to add it. They just ran out of money and had to publish to get cash inflow.

I just don't really see what is taking so long unless the combat is actually going to be good, I'm expecting some Stardew level phoned in combat. Spam attack button, and get out of the way of attacks...done...we already have the bow and arrow combat. How they haven't gotten that in the game yet if its THIS crucial to their design (maybe it isn't idk) is beyond me

Because it would at least make some sense that Elderwoods and Dungeons/Mines are intended to be added but need combat to justify the increase in reward...but if not? Then why are they just not adding anything else? What specifically is so important about Elderwoods that they needed that first over just variation biomes on ones we have?

Like they could have cranked Harvest Meadows out without NPCs so fast. Instead they have to make these unique assets for Elderwoods that are all mushrooms and big fancy trees and so on...instead of just maps that reuse similar biome styles and trees to get content into the game.

Like I get Stardew existed on very little map locations, but like, it had the mines and more importantly farming itself was deep. Nothing on our plots is deep enough at all...so I'm still a bit lost on what their grand vision for the game really even is still

We know they are working on (or abandoned) community plots and Elderwoods...but beyond that I don't really see what the "loop" they are selling is going to be until they give us clarity on what depth they'll be adding to the plot system (which I think is their biggest issue). This game has nothing close to Stardew Farming levels of depth. It's all passive repetitive activities that don't have much in the way of gameplay.

[loud axle]

Based on Glassdoor reviews, there is no grand vision. They've never had a roadmap of where they're going long-term, just throwing whatever they can at the wall and hoping it sticks.

I'm honestly still unsure about combat in the game - while I do get the "hints" at it (and I remember an old concept art picture that even had the character with a sword) I think it's more likely at this point that we'll just see huntable creatures that can "fight back" without any kind of health or danger to the player... maybe just things like a short stun, getting knocked over, pushed back, etc.

[untold sluice]

I just know they are adding sword combat and possibly staff with Elderwoods, what that entails as far as "punishment for failure" idk. Stardew just charged you some cash if you died...which by the endgame is meaningless.

I'd like to hope the combat is closer to something like BoTW with flips and movement involved....and not "My Time" and Stardew spam combat

[fiery perch]

I think they even mentioned there was going to be combat at some point, right? And I always assumed that the "fight back" mechanics was going to be more like annoyances like youre saying, short stun, knockback, etc.

[untold sluice]

Also yeah, my worry is they don't know what they are doing, which is crazy, because just copy Stardew or Traveler's Rest...I don't see how it is that complicated. One person made those games, how complex could it be to implement that systemic interdependence on crafting/maintenance on plots

The ONLY complex profession we have is Cooking, which like...just follow that model for other professions.

[loud axle]

Hmm maybe it's my goldfish memory, I thought I remembered them in early Ask the Teams / FAQs saying they didn't want to add combat but I definitely could be wrong, or things could have changed. It's been almost four years since then after all lol

[untold sluice]

I imagine they hit a wall on authentic gameplay design without combat and just said "either we add an easy thing to make...combat...or we add very complex gameplay for things that are fundamentally mundane"

[loud axle]

Yeeeeeah definitely one of my biggest gripes is that they seemingly don't want to do things that are done in other games which like... those things are in other games because they work. :/

[hollow crescent]

probably “we’ll think about it”

[untold sluice]

Because if you dont add combat...what's endgame? Cake parties but a different theme?

If they don't have the vision to make that call they may just start defaulting to easier more "universally liked" methods of player retention

[fiery perch]

Yeah, I went to look back a bit. Trying to find specific articles/mentions of it been so long myself looking at it.

I remember them saying they didnt want to add PvP specifically. And looking further,

""We have absolutely heard the feedback from players that they want some form of combat gameplay in Palia, and have a few plans in the works. Currently, our Hunting skill is closest to this in feel. (More details soon) Players can hunt Palian wildlife with a bow and arrow for their hides, meat, and other valuable materials to craft and cook.""

Which doesnt really answer anything. I coulda sworn there was a mention about it somewhere else, too.

Sources: #❓│old-team-answers-alpha message
#❓│old-team-answers-alpha message

[untold sluice]

I mean, it's 100% in datamines that they have worked on combat animations (sword attacks), whether that's abandoned? Who knows

[loud axle]

I dug into my Drive and found the old FAQ actually and y'all are definitely correct!

"Combat? We're not ready to get into detail on this yet, but we'll have both combat like systems, such as Hunting, and eventually more traditional combat. Like most of our skills, you'll be able to choose your level of participation in it."

[fiery perch]

This is what I was remembering!

[untold sluice]

So if Combat is some crucial element to endgame, they'd need it done before adding Elderwoods or Dungeons/mines because that's what actually produces the conditions for the things in those environments to be more valuable. Without it, it's just a reskin of Bahari but more money

[fiery perch]

I was about to dig in the other archived answers channel/thread

[hollow crescent]

i’m just comparing with infinity nikki since it came out, but there you collect materials to make dresses, we kinda do that with furniture atm, so just keep doing things like that, but i think where it stops them is that with furniture you get inspiration which is cool but to finish a whole set in one go if you collected enough, you run out of stuff to collect for, i think some reciepes need to be found/grinded 4 and not completed through inspiration, and also add more things we need to collect these materials for (clothes, dyes, enchants etc)

[untold sluice]

Im not really sure how they make combat optional without a meaningful trading/group system

[loud axle]

Also all of this was public so:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ECHPsDvyC0KP6ldYRaeFtmR0mhwBVGckWEPcH_zNc7E/edit?usp=sharing

If anyone wants to take a trip down memory lane, this was all stuff compiled from dev answers from the first few days of this Discord being open.

Just keep in mind obviously things might have changed

[untold sluice]

They need better stuff in the guild store for sure. Which is the only thing this game really has as a meaningful endgame grind that isn't just RNG smashing your face into an activity till you get what you want (which I despise)

[fiery perch]

Yep! And people can find this in #❓│old-team-answers-pre-alpha and #❓│old-team-answers-alpha . ...just, that docs looks way more organized hehe

I've just always dug through those 2 channels ^

[untold sluice]

I think when they add stuff they need a meaningful way to "focus" on getting a specific item and not making me sift through a bunch of filler loot I dont want. Like I have so many plushies but haven't gotten a single Pirate barrel cosmetic which is the ONLY thing I even want from playing Hotpot

I find RNG to be a deeply anti-player way to design games

[hollow crescent]

i’m thinking since the guild stores here are “in the country “ it’s like a taste of what we can find in the bigger city where the guilds are actually established

[fiery perch]

honestly more in-depth guild halls, areas, etc would be really neat.

[loud axle]

Well, people seem to be under the impression that the plushie trading was a "test" for regular trading to be added, so we'll see.

Would probably get me to come back and play some more if I could actually get the fish I need to complete the bundles.

[untold sluice]

I just think they need like...an outfit set themed to the skill + furniture related to the skill in more abundance. Like they added the whole Picnic set when that could have easily been unlocked in the forage store

[fiery perch]

I'm hoping it's the 'test' for it, at least.

[untold sluice]

Yeah I've spent far too much time trying to get the final river fish and just gave up, like I've gotten multiple starred unicorn fish but can't get a basic river fish to show up?

[untold sluice]

Outside of the systemic ability in the code to "exchange" items I don't really see what they are testing other than worries about exploits/duping/etc.

[fiery perch]

when i started playing Palia, i just wanted to make furniture and food (like pies specifically or something) for people and friends. i was so sad i couldnt

[hexed cloak]

Willow lamprey?

[loud axle]

Yep, that level of RNG annoys me. Stardew I could handle because it never took more than a day of fishing to find even the most rare fish, but Palia... I don't have that kind of patience to sit in the same spot for hours on end..

[fiery perch]

i saw it more as a testing to make sure it ran properly and nothing haywire popped up, i guess. if that makes sense

[hexed cloak]

I can make food for others though

[untold sluice]

But like, if we can't trade goods we can even sell I don't even know why that matters, as long as furniture can't be sold it's meaningless to exploits

[fiery perch]

but you cant trade or randomly send it to them!

i know there's a way to technically have them come over and do a specific step, and then make it for them (like, i at least remember, starting a chop, having them then actually do said step)

But i mean like, making it and randomly sending it as a gift

[untold sluice]

And without any way to focus down specific fish with bait/depth mechanics it's just a total hassle. Like they need another layer of fishing besides "this type of worm = this tier of fish"...like...no...let me pick a lure that subdivides that group even more

[loud axle]

I will spend literal weeks hunting for rare items if I can move around and do other stuff, it's just standing in one place that drives me up the wall.

[fiery perch]

one of my fav things to do sometimes in games, is writing a funny letter and attaching an item. I've been doing this here and there for friends on WoW Classic and it has been fun

[hollow crescent]

yeaa i get what you mean, requests are ok i think, if they don’t want to add traditional trading that instead you do it in designated spots that’s ok, but at least let us mail our friends

[hexed cloak]

When I was helping a newbie get started with the game, I did all the chopping and only had them stir, so they had some focus food (stirring counts)
At that point they still only had the campfire

[untold sluice]

Yeah it's really unfortunate how limited making money is, the furniture thing is a huge disappointment because it's the most obvious thing you'd want to gift someone or trade for

[fiery perch]

yeah, and i've done that at least for some folks! I just wish I could randomly gift as well via mail or something

[hexed cloak]

I want mail so much

[untold sluice]

I loved gifting people really rare furniture or things they couldn't get on their island and attaching a note in Animal Crossing. So cute

[hollow crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-mail-mailbox-gif-11623462

[fiery perch]

it's so nice, honestly and fun. I also find it to be a really interesting way to socialize with people.

[hexed cloak]

I'm currently gathering rare plushies to gift to folks on the holidays

[fiery perch]

I can understand this! It's why when I could fish before my hands started to cramp up more, I enjoyed running to a starspot to the next for fishing. it still wasn't perfect, but it at least helped a little with the restless feeling.

[hexed cloak]

This actually is the superior method of fishing for epic fish, because of the higher chance

[hollow crescent]

i seen someone have a department store for them

[hexed cloak]

I doubt they will gift theirs tho
I will

[fiery perch]

and if i remember right, glow worms + starred spots is a better chance of getting makeshift chests? It's been a while since i looked into it, though.

[hollow crescent]

from what i heard yea i haven’t tried

[hexed cloak]

Yes, I'm getting quite a lot from that
I have the "makeshift is all mine" achievement

[hollow crescent]

nice

[hexed cloak]

You can call me crazy, insane and all that, but fishing is my favorite skill in the game

[untold sluice]

Can you give a plushie without recieving anything in return?

[fiery perch]

if you both trade at least 1 plushie of the same type, then theoretically in that way, yes.

[untold sluice]

They just need like 1-2 more mechanics but it's not the worst version of fishing. Beats Stardew 100%. Although wish it was closer to RDR2 where the fish feels a bit more like it is fighting back and not just perfectly coming towards me with no pushback other than making me pause

[hexed cloak]

Yes, by tricking the trading system!
Both of you offer each other the same plush, then you add a plushie or two you want to gift!

[untold sluice]

Huh, yeah didn't think about that

[hexed cloak]

Fishing is just so chill to me

[untold sluice]

Yeah, I just wish it was slower, which is crazy but like...idk, fishing to me is a bit more about the vibes and this game it's fairly fast. Like the fish shows up quick, the fight is over quick. Maybe on like fishing Tier 2 they can experiment more

Also just adding like more complexity to lures/bait would be cool

[hexed cloak]

I might be crazy but the reason why I'm excited for Elderwoods is...

[hollow crescent]

is what for me i think it’s just exploring the area

[hexed cloak]

Fish

[untold sluice]

It'll be nice to get more things to do that aren't incredibly rare RNG head smashing activities.

Because legit outside of just getting as much gold as possible so I can afford the obscene price inflation going on (Landscaping prices are insane), I don't even bother with fishing/bugs/mining anymore except the weeklies because I've spent countless hours and still haven't been granted the rest of the collection items I need from them.

I've thrown like 20 Honey Lures down for Strawberry beetle...and nothing but trash...like sorry, my motivation is dead now. It's killed, buried, and the thought of RNG makes me just angry

[hexed cloak]

Idk, I like the repetitiveness of Palia. I hop into the game every day knowing what to expect.

This is the main downside of Nikki to me, it's overwhelming

[untold sluice]

Nikki?

[hexed cloak]

Infinity Nikki, a newly released game

[untold sluice]

I'd like Palia a bit more if the plot was more involved. Having something closer to Stardew levels of farming/profession depth on the home plot + little collection and mini-game activities out in the world would make this game a lot more my vibe.

But without that core "profession" like Stardew Farming or Traveler's Rest brewing...that stuff isn't really enough to keep me logging in except around the drive I get to play when there is a new update...which is like a week of daily logins before I stop again

Like the only thing I do on my plot is water plants, replant them, and then throw them in 1 processor...done

[rare pine]

Every time we have one of these discussions, I remember that one review: "Feedback only goes one direction--downwards."

[untold sluice]

LOL

But yeah, the only reason I want Palia to really succeed at this point (now that the cosmetic store just abandoned me as a customer) is the art style is still beautiful. Like I love logging in and walking around my pretty plot...it's just sad the plots aren't really doing anything gameplaywise after you make them pretty

[hollow crescent]

i think to me it’s palia had so much content where it seems like nikki has a whole bunch more, but either way i’m grinding for things to make stuff, so i feel i can chill in either game just running around doing whatever, story wise though i like palia a bit more :) i’m not rushing to do all the quests in nikki like i did in palia

[untold sluice]

Looking into Infinity Nikki...hate the art style, lol. So generic

[hexed cloak]

Wait until you see how the graphics look on mobile
I think the character design is cute though

[hollow crescent]

eh i don’t mind it i have. a few games that are like the style atm, but i like playing it, i didn’t play the mobile og version cuz it was just getting outfits for a “paper doll” but with all the extra thrown at it i like it

[untold sluice]

Yeah, this ain't for me, haha. Glad ya'll have another game tho. I can't even play as a cute boy? RIP

[hollow crescent]

right my bro plays but more for the collecting and stuff he doesn’t care about the fashion as much but he’s got other games he plays too as we all do, not just one game forever

[untold sluice]

Yeah the fashion is too "dollhouse" and the art style is just this uncanny realism that just makes me sick looking at it for some reason

Had a similar issue with Black Desert

[sharp breach]

well the game is about Nikki not Nick so..

[untold sluice]

Fair, valid, and facts

Which idk why but this reminded me of DokeV....whatever happened to that game? Too expensive and folded?

[hollow crescent]

i figured it was gonna be “in a world inspired by nikki” and she’s like one version you play as but there would be a male version so you can dress up too depending who you wanted to play as, but yea make sense it’s just her

[sharp breach]

lol sorry. just been getting a lot of that recently, ppl complain about not being able to play as a man in games made for women. like welcome to how we have to play

[untold sluice]

I mean, Nikki isn't some essentially feminine name. I know some Nicky's that are guys

[sharp breach]

it's a whole franchise - wouldnt make sense to suddenly have a male mc

[untold sluice]

Fair but I'm a gay man and I like looking at men while I play LOL

[sharp breach]

yeh but this is the genre

[hollow crescent]

haven’t heard of it but the wiki still says it’s being developed so who knows

[untold sluice]

Yeah had a big reveal in 2021, looked kinda far along animation/conceptwise...and then NOTHING

Definitely intended for children but like, idk looked fun

[hollow crescent]

could be under nda and all that

[untold sluice]

Idk even under that they'd be releasing marketing

Generating word of mouth buzz from youtube vids, it's Pearl Abyss so they have money

[sharp breach]

the nikki series has been around for like 12 years atp

[hollow crescent]

yea i get that i think i’m just used to some games having the 2 options but i know most are usually set in stone (and are often male)

[sharp breach]

joseimuke genre - for women. usually only have female mc

[hexed cloak]

I'm a straight guy, I play as a female char in games that let you pick

[sharp breach]

it's just funny bc so many men are complaining like welcome to how women have felt for decades lmfao

[untold sluice]

Yeah, 100% fair, also didn't know it was an ongoing franchise

I'm just always on the lookout for cute cozy games where I can play a cute boy and date cute boys. Hence, Palia. LOL

[hollow crescent]

yea it was a mobile game at first to collect clothes and dress up certain themes to get points (or something) i haven’t played it my sis has tho

[hexed cloak]

The new one is on mobile too
(If it wasn't I wouldn't have even paid attention)

[hollow crescent]

my phone can’t play it sadly it wouldn’t even let me try to get it

[hexed cloak]

On mine the game warns "ayo your phone is trash" but still lets me play. It's playable

[sharp breach]

the optimisation sucks anyway lmfao. it is infold tho so im not too suprirsed

[hexed cloak]

Just like Palia

And most UE5 games really

[hollow crescent]

nah like it straight i doesn’t even show me the game as a download it’s like “it’s here but you can’t touch it”

[sharp breach]

my phone could cook an egg with how hot it gets

[hollow crescent]

which is why palia is perfect for mobile /jk

[sharp breach]

dont give them ideas

[hexed cloak]

I've sent that suggestion in their feedback a couple times

[sharp breach]

why do u hate us

[hexed cloak]

If you have an older phone, it could be 32-bit only. Or maybe the game requires Vulkan, which not all phones have

[hexed cloak]

It runs on Switch (barely) so why not phones

[sharp breach]

infinity nikki has been in production since like 2019

[sharp breach]

yep so fun to get kicked out multiple times and then put on the other side of the bahari map wooo

[hexed cloak]

If Nikki can run on phones, Palia certainly can

[sharp breach]

nikki has no flowers, just like palia on switch lol

[hexed cloak]

They did say that they plan to release on "all major platforms" with 1.0 when they were acquired by Daybreak, so you can bet that includes mobile. It's just way too huge of a market for them to ignore. They will shoehorn it on phones

[sharp breach]

actually nikki runs better on phone than palia on switch loool

[hexed cloak]

Your phone is also multiple times more powerful than the Switch.

[sharp breach]

im so used to playing on controller idt i could switch. i just want them to add proper controller support to pc bc switch is barren and boring looking

[loud axle]

I only date my highschool bullies~

❤️ Alex in Stardew

[hexed cloak]

Actually, the Android version of Nikki only has 1M downloads, while they have announced a total figure of 10M. So not that huge?

Tbh I expected the mobile version to account for at least half of that, but I don't know what are the figures on iOS like

[untold sluice]

Im a sucker for a lonely depressed hottie (Shane/Hodari) or a nerdy awkward savant (Harvey/Einar). The depressed ones always have that heart of gold...they just feel too much. It gets me every time

[marsh venture]

Well I did not know there are romanceable npcs when I started playing but tbh i'm not gonna complain about this feature.

I just read the info on Steam and decided to try it. Now i need my daily dose

[hexed cloak]

You don't have to! Unless you want the achievement for getting a pin

[marsh venture]

Well, i'm into it tbh

So i'm gonna. 🤣

[old tree]

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[fiery perch]

the way i choked and laughed 😭

[untold sluice]

Hodari's romance dialogue got me steamy

[marsh venture]

yeah i took a look az reddit and saw a few screenshots. I'm quite new to the game so romance is not available for me with him (or with any other NPC). He actually is my 1st choice for romance. I like how his character is built in general, so it's not just the fact that he is damn hot.

i'm also interested in Reth, i read the wiki on his romance quest and sounds very interesting. What I was very surprised about was that Einar is romanceable.

[untold sluice]

His romance track is such a cute little story. If you want to romance him you'll need to also get to rank 4 with his daughter so make sure you push both

[marsh venture]

yeah i read that too

and I like Najuma so it's not a hard task 😄

[untold sluice]

She is the best

[old tree]

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[worn snow]

closeted?

[loud axle]

Oh no, I'm 32 now. Wellllll past my school years lol

[worn snow]

oh no i just was making a joke ab alex being a closeted bi guy

[old tree]

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[loud axle]

Server didn't like that message, let's try again...

Ahhh lol yeah I love his character growth. Starts out pompous but once he opens up it's sweet.

Dream husband as well once you're married.

[old tree]

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[lilac tartan]

I’m seeing Tamala discourse on Reddit rn and it’s just so annoying how no one can simply dislike her OR like her over there. People are saying if you don’t like her then your misogynistic and hate confident woman, but like… Delaila is a confident woman, and so is Caleri, and Eshe, etc. The difference is that Tamala’s character was just made a certain way and that’s a valid reason to try and avoid her in game. Same as people who avoid Hassian. Some characters you just can’t get behind. I’ve seen some say they don’t like Tish and she’s a fan favorite, but you won’t see my cry about it because it’s VALID!! I just think because there’s nothing left to do in this game rn is the reason for this unnecessary discourse

[old tree]

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[marsh venture]

I don't really know Tamala, tbh. To me rn Sifuu is quite annoying, but I just get over it and still develop my friendship with her because it might be useful during the game. I'm past that temple where she and Hassian are helpers. I do quests for her too because the rewards are useful. This is a game. In real life I'd probably avoid Sifuu.

Same for Hassian, I'm not a fan of his grumpiness, but I see he is quite a favourite among players.

[lilac tartan]

Right cause at the end of the day it’s just a game! It’s fair to be attached to a character, but theres no reason to be rude to others for their dislike.

[old tree]

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[marsh venture]

Exactly.

[old tree]

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[delicate pumice]

I hate trying to hunt Chapaas while Palia is still super glitchy

When I finally get a good grip and start shooting at it, the thingy glitches and disappears. When it reappears, I don't have time to shoot it again because it buries and goes away

[old tree]

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[wispy lance]

Have you tried with slow arrows? It helps a lot, and the stipe chapaas die from 2 shots the same as the other arrows.

[delicate pumice]

Yeahh I've tried slow arrows, but they still glitch out of existence before I can do anything
Apparently switch is just super laggy

[wispy lance]

Oh!! On switch. Yeah... I can understand that. My friend used to go hunting only with friends, by the time she pulled up her bow I had already killed everything around 😅

[next talon]

I wanna be able to hug my friends, fellow Palians and everything else!

[old tree]

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[thorn cypress]

I just go around using the pointing emote in friends' faces and shouting BOOP! in chat lol

[old tree]

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[loud axle]

The hug emote will be a $25 cash shop exclusive

[next talon]

I'd pay

[hexed cloak]

I doubt an emote would be $25 tho. 5 bucks tops

[umbral lynx]

Or just be free and accessible to everyone oh wait s6 teehee

[next talon]

I'd be fine with it because everything else in the game is free, gotta keep the lights on somehow.

[loud axle]

I wouldn't mind it as much if the prices were more reasonable and the content they were putting out gave me confidence in the game's future. We've talked about it at length before but people are much more likely to drop $5 on five different outfits than to spend $25 on a single outfit.

[pearl wave]

I'm going to stop you there, I agreed with pickle

They already have their "lights on" with tons of premium stuffs they been releasing.

There no reason for them to make emotes and everything else not free to balance it out

[olive carbon]

I looked at the pricing for the ferris pet the other day and it's structured so I'd have to buy the higher priced palia coin amount so I'd need to spend $17 dollars to get a pet cosmetic.

[pearl wave]

They really need to rework on that money system because in theory, they're robbing us when we have to spend extra dollars just to get one thing

[hexed cloak]

I'm cheap so I get the coins in multiple packages if it's an odd amount

[loud axle]

It's annoying that this is still a problem because I thought that they "addressed it" last year after all the backlash.

[pearl wave]

Rogue that's not the point but ok :(

[olive carbon]

Pets just shouldn't be more expensive than a single wearable cosmetic. It does not make sense.

[pearl wave]

Exactly

[loud axle]

It shouldn't be that hard to make everything at least a multiple of 500 or what not so people can actually get rid of their coins.

[olive carbon]

It's not about hard, it's about what makes them more money. It's very much of the appearance of done on purpose.

[lyric night]

I just wish they would remove the trick animation, thats the only reason they went from 850 to 1275 with them

[pearl wave]

So I'm going to be outright and Brutal, S6 you're becoming more greedy with $ lately and you need to stop.

[umbral lynx]

hot take, i dont care much about the outfits, landscapes and pets being paid
but emotes? which should be free in any game imo (lets be real to many games charge you for emotes and shouldnt but whatever) s6 doesnt have the ground to stand on to think they are on par with those games to so nty
but its free?
ok i have another f2p game that has the same kinda store and i can get alot more for alot less than palia
so i swipe for palia sure but i am in a situation that allows me without worry but the majority of the palia aimed market wont have that same level of freedom (context 10+ esrb ...ersb? idc for rating systems rn but its kids lets say)
and their mobile phone p2w pricing on coins is wild i know its the norm nowdays but most allow you to even it out or reduce to 0 so you get the value long term

(im sick idk if this makes sense)

[loud axle]

It's funny because we used to joke about whether the game was going to be called "PAL-ee-uh" or "PAY-lee-uh" and... Well, we know where we ended up. ☠️

[pearl wave]

I honestly don't care if you have $ to spend whenever you want, it's the matter of accessibility and for s6 to stop being so ridiculous with $. I agreed with pickle.

[loud axle]

Emotes would have been a cool thing to unlock via some quests or what not.

I mean, having any outfits you could unlock in-game through dedication and commitment would be cool but yeah

[olive carbon]

It just frustrates me, they could be making so much more money if they just....adjusted their paid cosmetic content to be more accessible to the people who only have a few bucks to throw at it.

Not to mention regional pricing.

[umbral lynx]

honestly this keep the flashy junk for the store but theres so many in the store currently that would be better suited for quests, guild coins or renown.
mini pets? cool add a basic quest one and then overcharge for reskins people will still buy its what we do

[lyric night]

I don't mind emotes as long as they are not a simple animation
I'm personally fine with the dice emote bcs of that

[signal kayak]

there needs to be more things for the f2p players, honestly. some people have to live paycheck to paycheck, and save up money for larger ticket items and can't spend 50usd for a cosmetic item

[umbral lynx]

god forbid they add a good glider skin

[loud axle]

Yeah where's Ori at? Like their idea of having pets help gather items and such would be cool but they can't do that because there are no free pets and it's only a cosmetic item.

Well... They could do that but then we'd cross over into P2W territory.

[signal kayak]

and like picklette said, if they would have given us a questline to get one basic color of each pet and put the other colors into the premium shop people would still buy the reskins

[umbral lynx]

LET ME RESKIN THE CRAFTERS id pay even though that should be a free level to a certain extent like most other games let you do

[loud axle]

I'd argue more people would buy them actually.

[umbral lynx]

yeah give people a taste and they will buy more

[hexed cloak]

Or they could add the chapaa and the muujin as free pets, for those who like them

[pearl wave]

I honestly HATE when some people brag about how they can afford to lose bucks to expensive, ridiculously priced stuffs.

Just because s6 going to keep making premium stuffs more expensive than necessary, IT'S DOES NOT MEANS some of us are not valid for wanting to have f2p or wanting accessibility to these things without losing bucks

[olive carbon]

Idc about the cash shop anymore since I'm broke as broke, but let me ride the disco deer and I'd maybe pay like $5 for a full palian week of having a magical deer to ride around on

[pearl wave]

Mood

[signal kayak]

another thing that they could (read should) do, is allow for people to earn the premium shop coins in game for those that can't afford to pay. as i've said, make it through the guild store where you can sell your fish/bugs etc to the guild master for half the price of gold for the coins (i.e. a fish that sells for 50 gold would net you 25 coins from the guild master) make people chose between buy premium store items or items from the npc shops

[olive carbon]

But only if the map is eventually big enough to excuse mounts lemme just not get too ahead of myself

[loud axle]

Man if only we had more maps to make mounts more useful.

[livid lagoon]

Mounts would be nice, even if only for the novelty of it seeing as the map sizes are small

[hexed cloak]

Half is a lot, since you'd be able to buy like 2 top tier outfits after only an hour of fishing

[umbral lynx]

im still at a loss of whats s6 long term goal is with anything in game
renown? dead
guild coins? low cap dead
tours? dead after you sell yourself
hotpot? bad rng to the point spampot
skills? ive seen to many 9999 to even care

[loud axle]

I'd rather see premium currency tied to / replace renown in Achievements. If it's tied to achievements and you can get a limited amount, they can strategically limit the amount people get - maybe enough for one or two outfits eventually - with the ability to add in more achievements later.

Everyone wins because the F2P players can still get a flashy outfit or two and might have leftover coins they want to spend on something else, so they'll buy a bundle to get enough.

[livid lagoon]

Even if the map sizes are small, the one time I see mounts being useful is if you're running certain routes over and over to get something specific, and there's a stretch of nothing on that route to cut that down a bit. It's still a relatively small distance, just a tiny bit annoying when you repeat it 30+ times.

[pearl wave]

Ridiculous

[olive carbon]

Don't forget twitch drops

[umbral lynx]

the fact they dont rerun those right now
oh shi- we really messed up these last few patches and tbh our twitch stats look super bad lets re run all the old login and drops via drops as a lead up to christmas as a good faith to the players we dont care about

[loud axle]

There isn't one.

Multiple GlassDoor reviews have said they had no long-term roadmap or goals, which is why they could never give one to us when we asked for it.

I tried to warn them they needed to cap skill levels when they went public and said "no more wipes" but well... We'll see how Elderwoods goes.

[pearl wave]

Or they can just admit what we know all along about them..

[polar elbow]

For me it's not "just" about the cosmetics, its moreso about the game's apparent stance of "if this type of item is in the cash shop you will never be able to obtain an earnable item of the same type through gameplay" that aggravates me to no end
It's not about the cash shop existing, it's about the fact that the "all or nothing" stance on monetizing entire item categories is gradually depriving the game of potential earnable rewards, one item type at a time
I need earnable rewards and goals that appeal to me, to keep me playing. If I'm not playing because the earnables aren't appealing, I'm not even going to glance at the cash shop. And that's the catch that everyone defending the "it's only cosmetic!!!!" thing seem to forget tbh

[loud axle]

Lol just reading back through old "ask the team" stuff and yeah it's all vague non-answers.

"How many zones are you working on currently?" "Oh we can't go into specifics but eventually we'll add more."

"Will skills be more deep / complex later?" "Oh well we can't decide if we want to refine the current skills more or make new ones so we don't know."

[pearl wave]

This is what I meant, I don't want their vague answer, just admit that you don't have plans for now.

[umbral lynx]

once you hit 50 in skills there is no reason to do anything, sure you can collect decor items? but we dont want 100s of over sized plushies that cant do anything and just look lifeless
they have really missed the mark with guilds and the renown stuff, sure someone can come in but its beta they will add it later. ok ill agree but they seem to make 0 progress towards that i think tish was the last? to get some decor items which everyone could get on release since you have nothing to get from her long term? cool cool

they could of added anything to the stores in game you could earn in game and heck lets treat ourselves f2p wise why cant i buy a cooking hat or apron from reth for 2k coins (since thats the cap) that lets me skip the stupid mini game

the mini game that doesnt work and im not gonna consider the current bug i mean the bug that has been around for how long now? where you just get stuck and cant do anything

oh whats that? players struggle with the fishing skill? buff item in the guild store that either instant reel in or stops the wiggle which alot of users have reported it actually hurts them

[livid lagoon]

You gotta go into debt for your education and official title, just like real life.

[umbral lynx]

oh mini pet? f2p? tau finds a plumehound in the elderwoods... we get dailies to earn the pups trust and watch it grow over time before it becomes a mini pet to the player and then s6 can charge us for reskins and gives us a reason to remember palia actually has npcs

[hexed cloak]

Even just make Kenli give you a chapaa or something

[loud axle]

I'll always laugh at the fact chapaas are like the mascot of the game and one of the first things you're asked to do when you get in game is shoot one

"Look at this cute adorable fuzzball! KILL IT"

[polar elbow]

honestly I'd love to see a game where changing your fishing bobber changes the minigame entirely, so you still have to do something to fish, but you can pick a style of fishing that works best for you/is most accessible for you
and for those who don't want to participate in a fishing minigame at all, have something like crab pots from stardew where you can leave it overnight and come back to see what you got the next day

[hexed cloak]

Cool ideas
I just want to see some skill overhauls and new skills already

As someone who can barely aim I'd like some hunting assists

[loud axle]

My dream for skill expression in Palia was three versions of each skill you level independently but can switch freely between.

Like steady rod fishing? Great. Want to leave a trap and come back 15 minutes later? Also great. Want to fish with friends using a net to catch multiple fish at once? Also cool!

[umbral lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/joueur-du-grenier-no-fun-fun-fun-is-not-allowed-stop-it-gif-16558170

[loud axle]

Like imagine the party possibilities if mining had three different professions, one gives you +1 ore per node, one does more damage, and one helps find nodes.

[hexed cloak]

If they add that I will start a unicorn fish empire

[hexed cloak]

And do something already to make that fricking star ruby easier to find

[olive carbon]

Alright calm down over there SDV

[loud axle]

Yeah could also be a benefit of the +1 ore profession for sure.

[olive carbon]

There's a reason the professions in SDV are so fun and dynamic. There's branches in that tree!

[loud axle]

Exactly, S6 is always like "we want to be unique and not do that because other games do it" like babes other games do it because it works

[hexed cloak]

They need to expand the fishing hooks mechanic into other skills and add tool attachments with different buffs

[olive carbon]

Bold and brash considering how heavily influenced this game is by other games very clearly

[polar elbow]

imagine if you could set up a trap, spook the animal in that direction, and they get caught for a short time, giving you an opportunity to shoot without needing to worry about aiming for a moving target

the trade-off is "less need to aim" in exchange for "have to actively pursue the animal in a specific direction"

[hexed cloak]

Yeah, you can certainly trace the influence of Animal Crossing, Minecraft and others

[scarlet hazel]

its inspired by other games but uses the concepts very poorly imo. esp the climbing mechanic

[umbral lynx]

the is fine wdym and no it aint a loop

[hollow crescent]

me trying to reach something in the top shelf at the store

[old tree]

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[red comet]

Then give us the option to turn it off?

[olive carbon]

"Nope, best we can do is further encourage snowball fights in the patch preview" -s6

[red comet]

Oh I can't WAIT for hot pot to give me seizures bc of snowballs flying everywhere in game

[signal kayak]

hey i was right, we will be getting the next update on the 17th, right before they go on christmas break. so everything that breaks won't be looked at until sometime in january. like the switch update last year

[raven orbit]

you know its a palia update when half the preview is cash shop 🤣 the game decor looks interesting though

[heavy hearth]

I feel like the pets could've been way more festive? Adding a hat feels so...lazy to me?

[scarlet hazel]

it IS lazy

[raven orbit]

i'm guessing they had them planned before and when they didnt finish them in time they thought "ah well lets put a hat om em and call them a holiday pet"

[cold raft]

Oh. I came to see if the game was still....the game after almost a year of not playing. And. Uhh. Yup. Seems to be.

[lyric night]

surprised that they added recolor options to furniture that cannot be recolored atm
(and nice looking ones as well, which is even more surprising lol)

[signal kayak]

i will say that it's nice that we get some different curtain designs instead of having to rely on the bellflower ones all the time

but again, doesn't look like any reason to come back to the game to play for very long

[raven orbit]

I didn't even notice that they mention snowball fights as one of the key patch points...if the seizure-enducing flashes aren't fixed that's kind of horrible of them to do /gen

[hollow crescent]

it’ll be chaos i’m sure

[warm python]

We talking about climbing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKejD3z55rc

.......why is the video labeled as world of warcraft

[hollow crescent]

no one can escape wow

[quartz orbit]

cause youtube bot can't recognize the game

[loud axle]

I saw a video the other day that was a streamer "checking out Palia" and the entire stream was them playing Coral Island 🤣🤣🤣

[pearl wave]

S6 stg

[dry swift]

What's bluesky?

[quartz orbit]

another twitter

[dry swift]

oh.

[quartz orbit]

its just another of the many social accounts that I am so tired and don't care

[dry swift]

I don't really do social media.

[warm python]

does. does the message say. snowball fights

[loud axle]

Bluesky is the alternative to Twitter a lot of people have moved to after Elon took over.

[grave sable]

ngl i played the coral island demo and it was everything i wanted out of Palia… sniffle

[hollow crescent]

indeed

[warm python]

also most of the trailer is premium stuff of course lmao

[hollow crescent]

xmas ppl need to go shopping

[warm python]

You see this is exactly why S6 needs a CM. maybe if they had one they'd see that we're at the point where we need a discord bot reminder about how snowballs can be actually dangerous to people

instead they seem to have no idea and are like "LET'S MAKE IT WORSE"

[pearl wave]

Stg if one of s6 come in here and act like nothing happens

[signal kayak]

wish coral island would come to the switch, heard a couple of good things about the game

[loud axle]

Legit 95% of that trailer looks like paid content.

[warm python]

because it is lmao the furniture recolors and curtains are free but everything else seems to be paid

[dry swift]

I don't think anything about S6 or Palia can surprise me anymore. I'm just numb to it.

[warm python]

but yeah this is literally just gonna be the patch ig

[pearl wave]

I don't give a crap about premium stuffs

[warm python]

why is the gif not going!! anyway you get the point

[loud axle]

I'm hoping the playable decor is going to be actually... Playable, but somehow I think it's going to just be a checkerboard floor you can make up your own games with plushies on.

[pearl wave]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-louisoix-final-fantasy-gif-15070709

Oh well I tried lmao 😭

[dry swift]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[warm python]

LMAO yeah this channel doesnt allow gif posting, alas

[raven orbit]

It's incredibly irresponsible. If they spent a second in this channel it would easily be seen. I think it further shows that the bot reminder NEEDS to be in other channels, not just this one.

[loud axle]

There you go 🙂 I'm on mobile lol

[hollow crescent]

that’s what i got from it yea

[warm python]

my hero <3

[stuck oar]

I don't know if I'm relieved or disappointed that the Dragon outfit is Sylph 2.0...
It's alright S6 I didn't want to spend money anyway

#thetinydragonthatdreamsofbeingadragoninpalia

[untold sluice]

Yeah it looks like it's just a really large checkerboard rug.

[brisk spruce]

bruh the trailer itself shows the bright flash when zeki gets hit by the snowball. "glitch" yeah right

[loud axle]

The single flash is definitely intentional, the only glitch is when the flashes go machine-gun-rapid-fire

[raven orbit]

Calling it a glitch is laughable really.

[dry swift]

At least now players can roleplay as the Kilima police SWAT team and break into players homes with flashbangs.

[hollow crescent]

zeki now knows our pain

[untold sluice]

Lol this shot looks like Zeki is getting snapped out of existence by a snowball

He's getting raptured

[pearl wave]

Ok s6 don't give a crap about us I guess

[hexed cloak]

Irl snowballs don't do that though. Snow particles would've been enough

[raven orbit]

Speaking of, did anyone ever explain why the bot reminder only posts in this channel?

[dry swift]

Zeki saw what the future holds for Palia in the next year and wanted to unsee it, and everything else.

[pearl wave]

It's not the only place the bot reminds us in tho

[loud axle]

Oh I 100% agree. I have no idea why EVERYTHING they do in this game has to have flashy particle effects.

[fiery perch]

If those snowballs aren't fixed or anything, I'm going to be, somehow even more disappointed than I already was.

[untold sluice]

The curtains and recolors are basically the update. Unless that game is actually a functional game with UI like hotpot, which I highly doubt. It looks like they made a rug we can put plushies on if you have perms.

[signal kayak]

okay, benefit of the doubt until after patch, they could have fixed the snowballs from flashbanging (i will hold out hope this is the case)

[raven orbit]

Really? I looked through the bots history and it only shows the reminder being posted in here

[pearl wave]

It's reminds us in general sometime

[hollow crescent]

in general and this channel, it’s on a timer

[olive carbon]

The bot posts every hour in both main channels, it just gets seen here more often than in general since it's faster paced there.

[untold sluice]

They couldn't even bother to make chess pieces for it. They are that low effort about advertising content. They shouldn't have even mentioned it. Just drop it as a fun little addition for players who want to do something on their plot

[brisk spruce]

here's the most recent one in gen #💬│palia-general message

[hexed cloak]

It's such a boring mechanic anyway. Just throwing snowballs without any point or reason to it

[raven orbit]

Darn discord being glitchy, thank yall - for some reason it was only showing in discussions 💚

[untold sluice]

Would have loved a series of Palia themed statues that worked for chess. Like Maji vs Phoenix and some lower level statues and gods and creatures to go vs each other.

Instead they are just like "plushies again"

[fiery perch]

It at least doesn't look as bad in the trailer, so I'm hoping hoping hoping it's fixed by the patch release.

[warm python]

now don't get too creative there, we can't have that

[pearl wave]

Nah it's won't get fixed

[untold sluice]

Do they really think the average player even has enough plushies to play chess?

[dry swift]

Watch the playable furniture be a hot pot table for our house after asking for over a year lol

[fiery perch]

also gmorning im awake, even tho it's afternoon.

[sudden bay]

Now you know that will never happen. LOL

[loud axle]

I actually saw a bit of salt in general about the patch as well which was surprising. Think people all across the board are getting tired :x

[brisk spruce]

when zeki gets hit it's a giant flash like it currently is in-game I posted a screenshot a bit higher up

[untold sluice]

I was really hoping they'd drop a new playable game before Lunar New Year so it wasnt "play hotpot here or there"

[fiery perch]

oh i totally missed that

[untold sluice]

"that game we made you play to death? It's back but also never left and now you have to grind it again for different prizes"

[loud axle]

I mean not many people even play Hotpot anyway everyone just spams it because the RNG is so terrible

[warm python]

I have no idea tbh but considering getting plushies is pretty much what this game is about now, maybe? no idea lmao

[dry swift]

The balloon thing from maji market was cool, but I got bored after 4 games of that.

[chilly cobalt]

Hot Take: I wish Singularity Six would stop focusing so much on the Premium Market and more on content in game.

[runic eagle]

I wish these pets were coming in different colors than what we already have in game.
They just added hats to them

[dry swift]

Not much of a hot take. I think a majority of players want more substance over style content but Daybreak has to be twisting their arm or something.

[raven orbit]

I think it's at a point where people are realizing everything in game is surface level

[sudden bay]

Someone always comes and stand 2 inches from me and when I'm trying to hit baloons I just see their BIG head.

[signal kayak]

little statues of chappas in armor for the pawns, maybe the sernuk as the knights, mujinn for the bishops, maybe some form of other creature for the rook that would be a sneak peek as to the creatures in elderwoods, with the phoenix and dragon with thier wings either up for the king or tucked around them to represent the queen

[hollow crescent]

same

[untold sluice]

It's so deeeeeply disappointing they said "hey modeling team...instead of making needed decor this game is desperately lacking...just print out plushie versions of creatures in the game"

Also no statues at all of the creatures ..just plushies.

So disappointing. Especially when we haven't gotten a new creature since Muujin yet we have like 5 new creatures in the pet shop with unique animations that SHOULD be flying and and hanging out on the map.

[hexed cloak]

Yes, actually

[raven orbit]

Honestly would have been perfect to tie unlocking the pieces to a short scavenger hunt type quest. Give people something to do

[tight narwhal]

I was kind of under the impression all pets are getting temporary holiday looks. Are those actually new purchases?? That's insane if so

[pearl wave]

What sucks is that we have to follow this server's rules because oh boy, do I have choice of words toward s6 but agh

[untold sluice]

This game would be so much better if there were owls hanging around on trees and pal cats on roofs. Instead it's dead except 3 huntables.

[hollow crescent]

game would explode

[fiery perch]

100% new pets and wouldn't surprise me if they're limited, too.

[warm python]

exactly why I'm glad I have contact with some people offserver so I can let out the frustration I can't here LMAAAOOO

[signal kayak]

would have been better to have just costumes for the pets that you already have... but that probably takes time to make

[pearl wave]

[hexed cloak]

If it's what you think then I could see some people getting mad that they slapped a random hat on their pet

[warm python]

oh lord I didn't even think about that. I wonder if they're gonna be christmastime limited

[runic eagle]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding when it says "new seasonal pets", but if it's the same exact pet colors with hats added I'm not buying them all over again for just adding a hat on them
I hope your right and it's the hats we can purchase for our pets instead.

[fiery perch]

considering that they're festive...

[loud axle]

Imagine a repeatable instanced mine dungeon you could do with friends in a party with Palium, some Flow Tree Groves, bat huntable creatures, unique fishing spots / bugs, and some puzzles to solve along the way like levers and pressure plates. 🤷‍♂️

[raven orbit]

god I wish

[dry swift]

Shilling for OSRS, but most boss/skilling pets get little santa hats/party hats for the holiday season (for free). It's awesome.

[hexed cloak]

They claimed the Halloween dogs would be time-limited but never bothered removing them from the store

[raven orbit]

imagine Palia if it was actually a community game, what a utopia that would be

[fiery perch]

Also, I'm not the only one that thinks this emote looks... for lack fo better words, cuz idk how else to word it [prob cuz im still waking up]

Uh.. Gross? Gross is def not the right word, but it just seems like a really awkward emote.

[warm python]

yeah I uhhhhh kind of raised an eyebrow at that

like at best it's a really dumb looking emote and at worst....

[hollow crescent]

they say “festive pets” so i’m assuming it’s a seperate pet purchase and not an item for them

[vivid oar]

Thats actually a really cool idea if it had a lockout so it couldnt be abused... by people like me who spend hours a day playing and would never be out of there =_=

[raven orbit]

I think it's just weird and probably a way for them to subtely nod to the horrible coffee collab. I can't see any situation in which anyone would use that emote

[hexed cloak]

It didn't look weird to me in the trailer but it definitely looks weird in this still shot

[hollow crescent]

idk why they made it tbh just have ppl wip out a hot coco or something

[runic eagle]

I don't like this either

[vivid oar]

Id of been so happy with just... drinking a cup of coffee emote lol

[fallow saffron]

Yeah it’s weird lol

[warm python]

Seriously why not have an emote of drinking a big cup of hot cocoa or something

not whatever that monstrosity is

[polar elbow]

the problem is that they ARE adding content, but almost none of it is something you can actually obtain by playing the game.
And what little can be obtained from playing the game is always just RNG home decor, and people are tired of that being the only form of earnable reward and want some other kind of goal to pursue :/

[fiery perch]

It just looked weird to me. And I wasn't even sure why 😭

Like... pls, i would like a sip emote. We all like sip emotes

[fallow saffron]

vogue

[hexed cloak]

Putting exclusive plushies in the coffee (which didn't ship worldwide mind you!) was such a (ahem) move

[vivid oar]

Like just stood with your hands around the mug, taking a sip every so often

[west marlin]

😭 They put the flashbang snowball affect in the trailer?

[warm python]

I was doing FFXIV gposing yesterday and got cozy christmas shots using a drinking tea emote and like!! that's nice!! not whatever the everloving hell that is

[sudden bay]

Is it just the chess board they are adding for the game board?

[hollow crescent]

i think this would have been a good lunar maji market emit or something doesn’t really say holiday?

[runic eagle]

Yeah strike a pose, not

[loud axle]

That's the idea, it would be a repeatable daily thing.

Just make it procedurally generated so it's not the same every time, and you can get varying amounts of things each run.

[dry swift]

Oh yeah I saw they were pushing that coffee again. Oh boy lol

[raven orbit]

I have so many issues with the collab, but yeah that was a choice

[west marlin]

When I said I wanted a sip emote this isn't what I imagined S6....

That's a chug, not a sip 😂

[warm python]

I can never figure out what kind of game they want this to be lmfkjahsd

[hexed cloak]

Don't touch that mouse

[olive carbon]

It's practically a keg stand emote lmao

[runic eagle]

This would have been great.

With tons of marshmallows.

[loud axle]

They don't know. When I asked them what their target audience was early on they said they wanted to cast the widest net possible.

In other words, they didn't have one.

[brisk spruce]

this emote in game pls

[warm python]

like if they feel they have to go flashy and over the top to charge for an emote at least make it something like a huge over the top mug of hot cocoa

seriously WTF IS THAT THING IN THE TRAILER jksahda

[hollow crescent]

“whoever plays the game”

[west marlin]

Adding 'snowball fights' without adjusting the vfx seems.... cruel?

[hexed cloak]

I have to say that the ice cream emote they added a while back is super cute

[raven orbit]

They tried to do solo cozy and multiplayer and in turn did...none of them well

[raven orbit]

I actually liked that one! It was goofy, but cute

[vivid oar]

at least we finally get a dance emote! :D Its... odd but at least we can dance while waiting for people to chop flow trees

[hexed cloak]

They will definitely release on mobile to milk that market for MTX

[brisk spruce]

yeah that's actually a red flag lol you can hope your game ends up enjoyed by most demographics but you really still need to target one...

[hexed cloak]

Is there a tracksuit-looking free outfit? I wanna do something

[neat kelp]

Hahaha I bought the dice one just to have the first ever emote they did and I think they are all very awkward in some way hahaha

[runic eagle]

I do have to say though that I am happy about the new decor dyes, and new curtains are coming

[neat kelp]

It’s def a diff pet purchase they did it with the placate with a hat folks get them unlocked after 1 purchase for sandy and 40$ purchase for the rest in total then they did the Halloween cats with witch hats yea no I got the pumpkin pups atleast they were a lot diff then the reg dogs

[raven orbit]

The new decor colors are a nice addition, I hope they actually match though. I know some of the old ones were wonky on some furniture. The curtains are amazing as well!

[warm python]

Yeah, I'm always a fan of new colorsets for furniture. I was never a fan of how they defaultly dyed in the game, and yay for curtains!

[runic eagle]

I'm thrilled to see some that aren't vibrant/pastels.

[hollow crescent]

yes i’m dreading though taking things from where they are to run to the mod bench just to see if i like a color

[runic eagle]

I"ve been asking for browns, greens, whites etc. more earthtones.

[dry swift]

You know, S6 could have given us a Ho Ho Hoe override for this wintersday festival.

[warm python]

I'm big on earthtones when I decorate in games unless I'm going for a super specific theme so I get ya on that

[runic eagle]

Yeah I find it very relaxing.

[raven orbit]

I just wanted more tones that weren't purple-ish pink and bright green/blue

[hollow crescent]

yea i’m actually gonna try to decorate my other plot now cuz of the colors

[tight narwhal]

Are there interior doors? Rather have those than curtains

[hollow crescent]

not really you can glitch them though

[runic eagle]

We have been asking for those too for a while now.

[vivid oar]

let. me. put. my. wreath. on. the. front. DOOR >:O

[hollow crescent]

better yet let us buy a door for the front with the diff wreaths (from the acceptance ceremony) and xmas from the town hall

[chilly cobalt]

But they can sure ask us (and expect us) to spend over $40 USD on a SINGLE outfit in game.

For that same price? I can just go buy another game that has the content I'm looking for in it, instead of hoping for a smidgen of content here.

[livid lagoon]

You know what S6 could do?
If Display Flashy Effects is disabled on client, skip the step of playing flashy effects on the client. If it is enabled, trigger FX on client.
I'm sure that's way too complicated though.

[hollow crescent]

if a mount in wow can cost like 10+ usd (i think i’m canadian so it’s more like 15ish) then i’m sure they could lower the prices of outfits

[hollow crescent]

they’d need to find all the flashy stuff first

[dry swift]

The vicious cycle of predatory cash shop games: "Oh no! We're out of money and we need players to buy items from the cash shop! > Players buy things from cash shop to support developer > Money is used to develop more cash shop items > Oh no! We're out of money..."

[brisk spruce]

if they make a candycane themed tool which one(s) do you want it to be?

[dry swift]

Guild Wars 1 used to have some FIRE candycane weapons. I LOVED the candycane bow.

[runic eagle]

And on the Bay Windows too. There are boxes to place items on them but the wreaths won't place.

[hollow crescent]

mining, fishing, and something else (though idk why they don’t do them all)

[vivid oar]

the hoe could just be a literal giant candy cane :O

[brisk spruce]

honestly if they were to do it, it would probably fit most tools easily. was just curious what the actually desired ones would be

[neat kelp]

I will say the most time I spend cash try at I donnot have and cannot afford cuz I don’t wanna play unless I got the cool new stuff lol and it’s the worst but hey only but so much for free in anything in life so I just pout buy it smile and play the most times then I suffer later in finance but tbh I do prey they start actually giving us fixes and playable content cuz it’s getting boring and nada to do I’ve done it all multiple times so I’m bored at this point

[dry swift]

It wouldn't be that hard to have all candy-cane themed tools to be honest.

[polar elbow]

or "oh no! 99% of people think the monetization is too expensive and don't want to buy our stuff! Does this mean we should lower our prices and let people buy more affordable pieces of outfits? No.... evidently we need to make outfits MORE expensive to squeeze more money from the 1% who are willing to spend"

[vivid oar]

unless its just a texture pasted over them like the halloween ones.... yikes that was a choice

[dry swift]

Also! Buy our coffee which may or may not take 5 years off of your life.

[polar elbow]

they never sold coffee lmao
they sold coffee flavored sugar

[hollow crescent]

it’s basically an energy drink

[neat kelp]

Now that was probably the coolest thing I bought but it’s been 5 months and my snuggler still hasn’t even shipped out bummer lol

[dry swift]

I just can't be bothered to spend any money on anything S6 pitches. They give me no reason to trust them.

[vivid oar]

the snuggler was actually really cute, was crazy price though so I just got a cup so I could have some kind of irl palia thing. Im easily pleased :(

[neat kelp]

I feel that friend we all have our opinions I get sucked into it to often unfortunately

[dry swift]

I will say I did spend too much money on Once Human for me to not be playing it anymore, but still cheaper than other hobbies at least.

[olive carbon]

The snugglers haven't even shipped yet, have they? They were estimated to be shipped "holiday 2024" but that's the last I heard about them lol

[neat kelp]

Yea mine was even more then most I had to order mine separately so I paid for shipping on both ugh I bought the wrong one at first so I had to buy them totally separate they were very expensive for coffee a cup and the chaps thing that we still haven’t gotten 5 months late hahaha

[neat kelp]

Yea folks who got them get email updates and we got a YouTube video about them they claim to be shipping them soon

[vivid oar]

Nono dont think its shipped yet

[vivid oar]

nuuuu :( I dont have my cup yet either

[neat kelp]

Ugh I def reach out about that we got those right away

[scarlet hazel]

thats crazy that a cup snuggle takes so long to ship. youd think those would take roughly 2 months at most

[dry swift]

idk I'm honestly kinda surprised that S6 hasn't ended up on some Coffee-Zilla type video yet with all of the seedy stuff they've done since launch.

[vivid oar]

Yep coincidentally i sent them an email about it today, I finally got sick of waiting

[neat kelp]

Right I agree they were community funded so they had to get the most they could out of it before even making them to be shipped out

[scarlet hazel]

prob cause the game is so obsure no big channels havent even heard of it before. most palia videos i find are months old

[neat kelp]

Yea sum is def wrong friend the snuggler is set for the “holidays” but we got the cup coffee and the pillow codes within a few days

[dry swift]

It's criminal how little respect management at S6 has for their players.

[neat kelp]

Good atleast u got an email in about it not sure what they will do this long but they r pretty great customer service wise

[olive carbon]

It's because it was a kickstarter basically, they only were going to produce them if they got fully funded. But it wasn't made clear enough, obviously.

[fiery perch]

what a surprise.

[neat kelp]

Yea some folks were confused they did say it was a funded thing and if they ddnt make it they would refund that part of the order but it’s def cutting close xmas right around the corner now and still haven’t shipped so idk

[dry swift]

It feels like any other self-respecting company would try to apologize and make things right by adding something extra...

[hollow crescent]

some places might be shipping strikes (at least in canada there are) idk how it effects other places

[fiery perch]

I will say, that part is probably not on S6, but more about Madrinas. But again, not surprised.

[raven orbit]

Cries in Canadian. In that case though it would just mean they would hold any canadian shipments but still send out non-canadian ones

[hollow crescent]

yea like a notice saying “can’t ship to x because of y shenanigans pls wait a bit longer” kinda thing

[raven orbit]

🤑 < that's the thought process

[neat kelp]

U would think so lol they were like 80$ when it was said and done for me I had to pay shipping twice cuz I messed up and had to buy them separately so ud think sum cool for the time but hey it is what it is lol

They ddnt start to send update on them at all until maby like a month or so ago so we ddnt hear anything for like 4 months

[tight narwhal]

I can't imagine there is a high demand for them though, why would I ever spend my money on an emote over an outfit or pet or landscape lol

[dry swift]

It has to be a red flag when 70% of the game content seems to be from the cash shop now and every "social-feed" and "Community-news" update is overwhelmingly them promoting things bought with Palia Coins.

Soon there won't be anything left to do in the game after a month except buy all the outfits and emotes and be a Roleplaying server.

[raven orbit]

As a fortnite player I can't speak...though at least fortnites prices are fairly reasonable

[tight narwhal]

at least in fortnight there is a reason to emote, gotta dunk on the enemy or whatever. I've never seen people emoting in this game beyond waving lol

[dry swift]

I use the laugh emoji whenever a disco deer clips into terrain after S6 "Fixed" it for the 12th time.

[neat kelp]

I do want the landscape I bought so much outfits I purchased every single outfit from ever single release in the last 6 months or so I’ve spent to much and can’t even enjoy the outfit for more then a week before another drops ughh

[tight narwhal]

rofl, just play a male character 90% of the outfits are terrible for them 😦

[neat kelp]

Bahahah facts true facts I complained about that cuz my husband plays some times

[dry swift]

"We have stay-at-home Ken gardener, stay-at-home Ken chef, stay-at-home Ken school boy."

[tight narwhal]

I went with the vampire hunter, just wish I didn't have the glowy effects

[dry swift]

Tail stretching into the atmosphere

[tight narwhal]

don't forget hotdog man!

[loud axle]

This has been going on since pre-alpha in 2021.

Maybe S6 will surprise us with Elderwoods in January.

And it'll be a giant, sprawling map with a new village and several NPCs to meet, along with player trading, and some new community features like a shared plot, and some instances dungeons to explore, and a new skill like Animal Husbandry

[scarlet hazel]

the plushie enthusiast outfit is cute to me. kind of like an oversized outfit of sorts. i wouldnt wear the backpack tho

[loud axle]

Or... Maybe it will be pushed back to April and it'll be one new huntable creature, a couple new bugs and fish, and one new ore node and tree.

[hollow crescent]

gonna need a big circle

[dry swift]

Or, Elderwoods will be the name of the Kilima Village retirement home and we'll get to spend time with grandma and grandpappy Kenli and all of S6's funds will have been swallowed up by the void again like they seem to be every year.

[lyric night]

january is reserved for luna new year, anything before april is unlikely I'd say

early 2025, not summer 2025

[dry swift]

If sailing is coming out for OSRS in summer of 2025, I imagine Elderwoods is coming out for Palia in 2027.

Then we're getting Elder Scrolls 6 in 2040.

[hexed cloak]

No, we will get Skyrim: Ultra Legendary Edition, now available on the PS7

[olive carbon]

Dang, so we'll probably get ES6 before GTA 6?

[dry swift]

At least we have GTA V right? 🥲

You know what? I just want Megaman Legends 3.

[neat sleet]

DUDE

[dry swift]

Most people in here probably aren't even old enough to remember Megaman Legends lol. MML2 came out in like... 2001.

[neat sleet]

Megaman legends my all time fav game bro. I have a ps1 hooked up to my capture system just to play the disk

[dry swift]

they're both a pretty hot collectible now too! I still have my copies of 1 and 2.

On the bright side, at least we're getting MMX Corrupted and my buddy gifted me Gravity Circuit. Both great homages to the X series if you're interested.

[quartz orbit]

Dude I LOVE MML...don't remind me of 2....I cry each time

[neat sleet]

I don't play any of the newer ones but was always a huge fan on Megaman up until x on snes

[dry swift]

I still hope that we get MML3 sometime in our lifetime. They really did us dirty leaving us with that cliffhanger.

[neat sleet]

For sure would love it. Imagine it like an open world style gameplay like pokemon or Zelda

Tell me that wouldn't sell.

[wispy lance]

@jagged junco

[dry swift]

I always tell myself if they came out with MML3 I'd buy whatever console it'd have to be played on. Maybe someday Capcom will sell the MM rights and we'll get a fan project for it.

[neat sleet]

Oh I would absolutely buy whatever would be necessary to play that

[quartz orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope-clint-barton-avengers-gif-14260447

[dry swift]

It's always nice to see there are other Legends fans still out there at least 🙂

[jagged junco]

I am practically in tears right now This is beautiful I am building a coastal Winter landscape and I want it this so bad I was dreaming of it and I will save so much money on snow piles cuz I have already spent most of my money on those snow piles!!!! 🤣😭

[neat sleet]

I like the snow piles but it's too much work to place them all and make it make sense

[hollow crescent]

i’m just placing them by my tree outside and around a few corners on my plot

[wispy lance]

I can suggest some cooking party's in #1143270926394335282 .they can bring you some fast gold

I think the snow piles will be just to add a bit more snow if you are to get the snow landscape... Since it's all literally covered in snow

[wispy lance]

I don't think you would need that many snow piles. Since you wont have a grass field anymore

[spice panther]

this sounds too realistic i dont like it. but also agree

my high hopes for this game is mostly gone at this point. Fix Tishs quest is all i ask

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[thick wagon]

i dont understand why they dont just add in PET clothing while SEASONAL pets are amazing... when you think of seasonal pets you think of NEW season spesific pets!. but there just the same pets with cloths!

are they cute? yes they are. are they gonna be expensive then the originals? moslikly so! litterally if there able to do this stuff why not just do pet clothings! that away your not buying seasonal duplications that may or may not cost more or less then the originals!

[loud axle]

Weird seeing the bare pine trees in the winter landscape when like... there's pine trees in the background with snow on them.

[pearl wave]

im afraid to watch the trailer, is the flash on trailer bad?

[loud axle]

Wouldn't think it would be too hard to add snow?

Also makes me think about how they could have used the autumn / fall trees and such for a Harvest Meadows / Harvest Fields biome and we could have had a whole other map as well.

[thick wagon]

flash?

[pearl wave]

[thick wagon]

the two new emotes are....weird..the 2ed one ok cool... but the tea one? odd

[warm python]

the tea one is kind of horrifying tbh kjahsda

[hexed cloak]

Why couldn't it have been just a cup that your character sips out of

[thick wagon]

the 2ed one kinda hurts my eyes the more i look at it....its cool dont get me wrong. but oh boy......i can see al ot of issuses with it if its spammed

[warm python]

Because apparently they laid off everyone at that company with a modicum of taste

[fervent mountain]

they gotta raise the decor limit man.. or at least fix the bug that stuff on other plots count for the other ones too. Ive been over max on multiple plots för months now and cant use anything new

[thick wagon]

i love the new landscape but im still holding out for a elderwoods layout >:{

[hexed cloak]

The default plot is peak cozy to me so I'm sticking to it
I only ever bought the grove skin for a secondary plot

I started before they added the plot skins. It feels right, y'know

[thick wagon]

same grove is the cheapest

[rare pine]

Tea emote is horrifying

[warm python]

damn what i was trying to say got blocked by automod lmao

[wispy lance]

Im a bit weirded out by it... Who chugs tea like that 😅😅😅

[warm python]

it looks like something I'd see in sus fanart

[proven veldt]

I think you know that it wasn't appropriate for an all ages environment

[warm python]

Obviously, which was why I wasn't making a whole scene about it

[lilac tartan]

Wait whats the other emote?

[warm python]

There's the weird tea drinking emote and the vogue dancing one

[lilac tartan]

Oooh yeah!! I hope the dancing one is free 😭

[warm python]

you know better than that

[rare pine]

I very much doubbt it

[lilac tartan]

Yeaaah 😭😭😭

[warm python]

unless their philosophy has changed and we haven't been told, emotes are prolly gonna be perma paywalled like other cosmetics, which does suck

[lilac tartan]

[west marlin]

it should have been a sip

not a mouth-wide-open-chug 😂

[lilac tartan]

A fancy sip with a pinky out

[wispy lance]

I would have loved a sit down option and sipping 💜

So we can do picnic pictures

[lilac tartan]

Kinda like Fortnite

[wispy lance]

At least I get a dance I always wanted.... Though idk if I like that dance 😅

[warm python]

dont tell yoshi p the outfit is modded but like why couldn't palia have something like this

that with tea or hot cocoa or something!!

I don't know if this game understands "subtle" most of the time tbh jkahsd everything feels like it has to be over the top

[hollow crescent]

that’s cute

[fast sonnet]

Honestly, watching Zeki get bodied by a snowball was the highlight of my day today. 😂😂😂 Poor guy but damn I needed that laugh

[warm python]

my gal of....almost ten years now? I think i started playing in 2015 lol, I love her <333 had to take some christmas pics with her

[pallid ferry]

A sip emote would have been better. I can already see the chug one being used in inappropriate manners.

[warm python]

It just kinda baffles me lmfao

[west marlin]

i read that post without seeing the picture and thought you meant your girlfriend 💀

[lyric night]

just like the chapaa pop one

[pallid ferry]

Sometimes I wonder if they even bother running some of these things by a second person, or do they just slap "submit" and let it go live

[warm python]

LMAO no she's too busy dating a catboy

[warm python]

I'm afraid to ask

[upper badger]

Hello! Happy Holidays to everyone.

[lyric night]

gonna spoil it if u don't want to know but
the emote is ||"licking an ice popsicle" guess thats enough information||

[warm python]

Oh no

[lyric night]

I hope that one of the "quality-of-life improvements" mentioned on the twitter post is a bulk buy option.
I need a few hundred modkits

[pallid ferry]

Yeah buying the furniture modkits one by one will get old fast

I only noted 3 new color palettes in the trailer, and neither of them the dark green or green with creams. So I'm hoping we get more than they showed.

[thick wagon]

i dont think eny emotes are free?

[fiery perch]

I think there was one that was free? But i dont think any others are going to be.

[lyric night]

I counted 5/6
probably a few more than that

what I'm wondering is if they will add recolors to maji market items and kilima as well
guess we will find out on tuesday

[thick wagon]

well i mean the new emotes...like the dice and up emotes i dont think will be free is what i mean

[fiery perch]

ah, then in that case, yeah i agree.

[thick wagon]

im still annoyed about the two "new" pets all be it its just owl bunny and plant fox with hats...

[wispy lance]

I saw brown, blue, white/gray , pink, and dark brown or black not sure.
I think I saw a green with pink on an umbrella but it might have been a cathalea recolor.

The umbrellas change 3 times

[lyric night]

3 actually, last clip has a wolbunny with a cylinder
but yeah.. its just a reused asset slammed on the pets

also seems like we get a "new" cosmetic type, last clip shows 2 new standalone hats

[thick wagon]

show 0-0 i missed the hats

[lyric night]

a bit hard to see bcs they are so small, u can also see the wolbunny behind the "P"

[thick wagon]

hm

[umbral lynx]

TINY you have good eyes... Better than mine at least in the beginning of the video the snow ball part one of the "players" had a colourful item on their side I'll grab a ss but eh my eyes

[fiery perch]

the hats as well.

[hollow crescent]

this is all you atm

ina good way tho xD

[wispy lance]

Zeki hat

[lyric night]

yeah lol

[hollow crescent]

so its loot off him if you throw a snow ball

[umbral lynx]

Like 5/6sec in i noticed their top but I don't recall them being that colourful the player in the back right

[wispy lance]

Red dress

[fiery perch]

looks like one of those shoulder bags that hangs on your back, if you know what im talking about? Idk what theyre called exactly.

[lyric night]

yeah looks like the herbalist? outfit

[umbral lynx]

I know exactly what you mean but I never recalled seeing one in game that colourful also ss on moblie is hard

[umbral lynx]

Twas it always so colourful?

I trust you more than me

[wispy lance]

Leafy curtains ??? 🤩

[pallid ferry]

Some of the colors the umbrella changed to were colors we already have. the green/pink was the cathalea color and then you can see the autmn and berry color on the umbrella.
I saw blue (hopefully not shore, but hard to compare since can't currently recolor the rattan set) white, and tans.
There were 7 colors including a all bubblegum pink leaked when they first started home tours, but I'm not allowed to post that here.

[scarlet hazel]

Those are some weird looking curtains

[fiery perch]

I get what you mean! if i wasn't still, admittedly, cranky over palia/s6 related things, i'd open my game to look ... but uh, that can wait

[lyric night]

guess its just the editing on the video? it looks more vibrant but the colors are exactly the same as the "fieldwork" herbalist outfit

[pallid ferry]

Does shore have yellow tones in its pallet?

[scarlet hazel]

No

Shore is... Light blue and white I think? I've never played around with the recoloring tho cause the previews are never correct

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[pallid ferry]

^ Which makes me wonder if they fixed that before adding a snowball fight (event?) to the game.

[scarlet hazel]

We're gonna have to find out when the update drops

They're encouraging snowball fights in the trailer so they better have fixed it or uh... Yeah alot of trouble is gonna end up following

[pallid ferry]

In the trailer, these are the color palettes that I saw:
|| There's a cream. A White. Blue with yellows (not shore?). A Classic. An Autumn. White with black accents (may be same palette as white). A Berry. A calenthe (the green with pinks). And of course the unpainted versions were also shown. So 3-4 shown new color palettes (Cream, White {possibly also a white with blacks}, and a new blue). ||

Oh and whatever palette this applies to:

[wispy lance]

There's a brown as well

Yeah that brown

Lol

[scarlet hazel]

I really couldn't care about the colors unless they fixed the color preview glitch and made it way better to actually preview the right colors

[pallid ferry]

I hope that's a new brown. It's hard to be sure, since that MIGHT be classic applied to rattan? It's so much easier to tell on the umbrella.

[wispy lance]

White and pink umbrella

[pallid ferry]

Oh that looks like it's the same cream color palette as the Investigator Desk to me

[wispy lance]

I think it's a white and pink one, not the cream

But we will see in a week

[pallid ferry]

There is a pretty super girly pink palette out there. I hope they give it to us next week and not holding it for springtime. Same with the dark green. Ever since I saw it in a home tour I've stopped decorating b/c I know I'll have to redo it

[wispy lance]

I think we get the dark green as well, I don't think this is the green/pink one we have

[pallid ferry]

That's it, I'm dying jars

[wispy lance]

Andthe runner

[regal glacier]

I hope the bellflower curtains are fixed. I mean I hope the curtains are hangable from different windows and door frames

I screamed when I saw them I the teaser

[scarlet hazel]

We'll just have to see. I'm not getting my hopes up until I see it in game and how they function

[pallid ferry]

ugh and of course we CAN'T dye rattan yet, so I can't check

[wispy lance]

Oh! You wanted to test out the colors

[pallid ferry]

Yeah, to make sure it wasn't just classic. That runner looks a little calentha to me

But THIS runner is NOT Berry.

[lyric night]

bellflower curtains are fixed for several patches now tho?

[wispy lance]

Royal purple 🤩

[scarlet hazel]

at least were getting an actual purple

[wispy lance]

Ok, nn, ill be dreaming of color changing rugs now lol.

[pallid ferry]

I hope purple is added, and not a mistake like the garden snail plush.

[olive carbon]

[fiery perch]

backreading, but no. the snowballs are still very flash-heavy. I want to hope it's fixed in the next update that is dropping, but im not holding my breath.

[hidden lion]

Its been broken for a year it aint happening

[fiery perch]

i know it's been a year, and it's why im not holding my breath. but im still going to in a sense, hope that it's fixed next update. if not, then well... :/

[fiery perch]

that's a nice purple tbh.

[lyric night]

but the yellow in it will be weird

[fiery perch]

purple/yellow can go decent together, but we already know how s6/palia's track record for color palettes are... will have to see how they look in-game themselves, since that can differ from the trailer

[granite crag]

I hope it’s not just the color swatches we have now, and more so we can pick a primary and secondary color. But I don’t have much hopes for that

[untold sluice]

I don't see how they expect to sell a snow map with no snowy trees placeable. They literally made snowy trees for the map and said "nah"

The autumn map was the same thing.

Why is it so incredibly difficult for them to ever give us anything to decorate that isn't a plushie?

Even the image of the map looks wonky when the trees we have on the plot are snowless.

[hidden lion]

I stopped playing a year ago, all they have added since is ... Plushies and a few furniture sets

[loud axle]

Their average player count on Steam is about to dip under 5k.

[clear ingot]

Don't forget all the costumes and pets

[fiery perch]

I have no proper response to this, so the chapaafire will have to do. It best sums up how i feel about that

Also, hope youre doing well Roan. Realized I forgot to say hi and things earlier, because i was so frustrated at stuff lol

[loud axle]

The chat was moving, s'all good! I'm doing great, hope you're the same Ori!

[fiery perch]

I'm doing better now! Playing some more chill games that helped me relax. And managed to get some food too, so I'm good!

[warm python]

Time to see tonight if Palia dropped a ton of money on another Game Awards prime slot for whatever reason

the way I was screaming "WHYYY" at the TV last year at the switch port announcement. I confused my friends so much lmfao

[pallid ferry]

Thus began the limitations for plots and the extra glitches.

[warm python]

lmfao a bunch of us here were just baffled yelling IT'S NOT READY???

[lyric night]

would be hilarious
but it would probably be a bit too early for elderwoods and playstation/xbox announcements

[warm python]

Yes but you're assuming logic when it comes to marketing and budgeting >> <<

[loud axle]

Me when they announced open beta in general

[warm python]

I can only imagine

they went from closed beta to open beta in like a week or smth right?

[loud axle]

yup

Though I did get some catharsis out of it at least when the steam release happened and there was finally a place for public reviews

Was nice to see that 50-60% for awhile like "oh thank god it's not just me"

[warm python]

LMAO yeah

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[pallid ferry]

(But we’re going to add snowball fights in common areas of the maps without first testing a fix anyway.)

[fiery perch]

[warm python]

boy imagine we had a CM who could see that and pass it onto the staff so they didn't instead make something to promote it

[fiery perch]

there was miscommunication, from what i understand, from the cms to management/devs anyways.

so i mean...

[pallid ferry]

If only we still had devs who visited discord now and then.

[fiery perch]

and listened*

[warm python]

Good point lmfao

[fiery perch]

i might still be very frustrated, whoopsie.

[pallid ferry]

Does the team even do Twitch streams anymore? I recall they did once before the game changed hands.

[warm python]

I'm...not sure honestly. but they don't do them anymore

there's no official partner stream events anymore either afaik since that was a CM job to organize

[hollow crescent]

i’ve never seen them do a stream and i’ve been playing since last august (unless i missed them)

[warm python]

then again, the last partner stream event I remember was the one where they played Fortnite for an hour without saying they'd do that....

man that was so weird LOL

[loud axle]

"And now a new cozy game like nothing you've ever played before" the way I screamed at my TV "I SWEAR TO GOD IF THIS IS A PALIA AD"

[lyric night]

LMAO SAAAME

[warm python]

it just happened again

every time I hear the word "cozy" I just get that fight or flight response LMFAO

fr tho I cant wait for the shire game

[lyric night]

yeaaah hahaha

[loud axle]

I love that the most accessible games are like... the most violent games I can think of lol

That pacman metroidvania looked cool as hell though

[warm python]

lmao I was just like WHAT

[scarlet hazel]

the most violent games seem to understand everyone needs to release tension when needed

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[tacit crane]

i’m excited for the game board pieces! over the summer, i built a candyland board when the building blocks first came out, i’m looking forward to maybe being able to use it!

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[marsh venture]

Got some room keys yesterday and a letter. I've laughed sooooo hard at the letter

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[reef plank]

Did they roll the server back or something? I finished a quest yesterday, and the quest is back in my active list now.

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[thick wagon]

why is the bot spamming this so much btw?

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[dull crow]

There is a video that shows the effect it looks like a flashbang from cod or bf and some people can get sezuier if you throw this at them and next thuesday there will be a snowball fight hope they gonna fix this bug otherwhise delta force get a new competetor🤣

[thick wagon]

oh nonono i know about its every msg LOL

[polar elbow]

It's timed to post every few hours, but it holds back from posting if its post was the last one

[thick wagon]

ohh

[polar elbow]

so in a channel where things are quiet, like this one, you make the first post for a few hours, the bot sees "my post isn't the last one anymore!" and immediately posts the warning it was waiting to post

[woeful garnet]

Can we have doors?
Can we have doors?
Can we have doors?

We thank you for your input and are pleased to announce that we will have several curtain styles for your windows in the next build!
You're Welcome.

Ummm... thanks.
That's great.
Sooo...
Doors, when?

[thick wagon]

you can glitch doors :3 but if they add doors i hope they add a open option so there not just randomly opening from 5 feet away

[scarlet hazel]

It'll probably be constantly opening and closing like the other doors already do. Idk why they made the doors like that

[woeful garnet]

Oh, man. It annoys me the way the exterior doors always open every time you walk past one. 🤦

I would be okay if interior doors didn't open at all and you could just walk through them.
I love the Flow Door in Zeki's store.

[thick wagon]

i mean they could also just do what BOTW did with its doors

if you could walk threw the door then there would be no point in adding doors that should open/close... you'd also get a loading screen mostlikly while your already in your plot from the doors witch would be annoying real fast

[regal glacier]

Do you think the new emotes are going to be paid content?

[olive carbon]

Yes

[dry swift]

At least not playing Palia is free.

[regal glacier]

Awe I’m sad

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[olive carbon]

I think it's sad and a bit laughable that the building blocks just don't support interactables anymore without yeeting them. I wonder if that will ever be addressed (again)

[fallow saffron]

I sold everything I could in my storage and deleted the game after this last announcement

They have this bot reminding people in the discord to be cautious with snowballs, yet show and encourage snowball fights on their advertisements

[dry swift]

I'm sorry to hear that this upset you so much. I hope you find a game where you feel welcome! I haven't bothered logging on in months and don't really see a reason to since nothing really changes or improves.

[fallow saffron]

Not even sure if they’ve announced the snowball flashbang effect on other platforms for people outside of the discord

[fallow saffron]

started playing Stardew Valley for the first time recently! Really like it :)

[dry swift]

It's odd how it would be so much easier for a game like this to be friendly for players with disabilities yet S6 always seems to drop the ball on it.

[fallow saffron]

I used to log onto Palia to do some gardening here and there. Finished all quests, decorated my plot, maxed out all friendships and romances, max gold.. was waiting for elderwoods but I gave up

Not much to do but get plushies and buy cosmetics

[fallow saffron]

Right? Like, it’s not that hard and they’ve had so much time

[scarlet hazel]

I hope whoever is the current management team leaves when the new year rolls around

[fallow saffron]

Oh gods that reminded me. I totally forgot that S6 might go on vacation after this next update - leaving players with a bunch of bugs/glitches

[humble ice]

Wish they would increase the 10,000 limit on chests storage

[unreal pilot]

I agree! I want to hoard things

[humble ice]

Right I would like to hoard things to... I mean is 50,000 to much to ask for or even 100,000

[warm python]

Oh yeah lmao last year was wild, we had bugs for AGES and they refused to communicate as to when they were gonna be back in the office (we didnt get another patch till late january I think?) so everyone was in a tizzy

devs absolutely deserve holiday break but like maybe don't throw down a patch you know will probably be broken on your way out of the office for a month

[rare pine]

There was that huge Temple of Gales glitch that was preventing progress iirc.

[fallow saffron]

Agreed! Taking a break makes sense their timing is just.. odd (right after updating I mean)

Especially since they know their updates cause even more problems

[lyric night]

it won't be as bad as last year at least
bcs we won't have to wait almost 2 months for the next update

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[earnest hare]

the snowball flash doesnt just effect the person hit with it or throwing it even I can see it if people are throwing at each other

loaded from the housing to kilima and greeted with a flashing snowball fight

[hidden trail]

Technically s6 didn't even warn people in the discord, it started with players warning other players here and the volunteer mods here who are not s6 employees stepped in to make the automated message warning about snowballs here. S6 had nothing to do with it.

[warm python]

Which is why a company needs CMs. But.

[hidden trail]

Here we are 🙃

[warm python]

Here we are....

[fallow saffron]

Oh yeah I know! A friend of mine actually wrote the message that the bot is using. I know it’s the players

It was submitted and then chosen (the message I mean)

[fallow saffron]

[hidden trail]

Okok I think it's good for us all to know though bc like some people legit don't know that it's not s6 or that the mods are unpaid

[fallow saffron]

More and more people are seeing thru them

[hidden trail]

Let's hope

[fallow saffron]

Oh yes yes I know! But thank you for sharing it with me regardless /genuine

[hidden trail]

I do know it's saltier and saltier when I pop my head back in these days though

[dry swift]

I remember when they were recruiting the mods. I actually thought about applying and then asked myself why I would do what should be a paid job for free. Kudos to the mods that do volunteer their time here.

[warm python]

Mods used to be paid before they swapped the team

[hidden trail]

That was also before they laid off all their cms

[warm python]

Yup

[dry swift]

Oh well, what can we do? S6 made their bed so now they have to lay in it lol.

[loud axle]

I almost applied for shepp once lol

[fiery perch]

Delayed response, but, this made me think

The new gameboard theyre releasing, it looks like it's almost just the building blocks that they used, but put them together. It makes me wonder if that'll have the same issue.

[fiery perch]

Nope. The only mention of it is here, and the only reason it is a mention here is because the volunteer mods added it as a auto-bot message. :x

Which still boggles my mind and why I'm still kinda cranky over the whole.. advertising the snowball fights.

There's been no acknowledgement over how dangerous they are from the devs themselves. It just. Really has been bugging me. I'm hoping it'll somehow be fixed next update, but we'll see.

[dry swift]

Glad you dodged that one XD I feel bad for all the dedicated players who seem to have gotten very little to nothing out of their hard work 😦

[scarlet hazel]

I don't really see any shepps around anymore actually. Are any of them still around?

[hidden trail]

Same lol bullet dodged amirite 😅

[dry swift]

I just don't get it. So much dedication from the players willing to put themselves out there to help S6 out with the Shepp system, moderation, suggestions, etc. No appreciation or recognition from S6. Almost like they expect the players to do all the heavy lifting for the community.

[lyric night]

I'd guess that the gameboard(s?) will only allow "table" items anyways, but maybe they will have a "floor" tag as well
guess we will find out on tuesday

don't think they act like building blocks, bcs they are standalone decor

building blocks have special properties

[fiery perch]

Yeah, I was just mentioning how it looks similar, so it made me wonder.

But yeah, we'll find out and we'll see.

[hidden trail]

What makes it feel worse is that the content creator partners got some really nice gifts... Tells me they care more about bringing in new player numbers rather than supporting new and existing players

[scarlet hazel]

I wish the content creators would speak out but most are probably too comfortable getting free gifts

[dry swift]

And now where are all of the Palia content creators? All 5 of them with 100 or less viewers each :\

I imagine it's hard to be a Palia content creator when you have to stream plushie hunting for the 100th time in a row because there's no content in the game because S6 is too busy making new cosmetics for the shop.

[hidden trail]

I am sure some of those creators are still thriving and playing other games and doing well, they didn't have exclusivity clauses or anything

[dry swift]

I feel like a great game should have content creators dedicated solely to that game though. I mean, games like FTL and Balatro have dedicated streamers for crying out loud xD

If you have a game that people only want to play on the side or pay very little attention to when it's not advertised as an idle game; what does that say about the quality of the game?

[hidden trail]

That would first require palia to be a great game

[fiery perch]

As much as I want to agree, I don't think it's great for a Content Creator to soley dedicate to 1 game. it gets very burnt out and stuff. I've heard from other content creators, streamers, etc, that when they do dedicate to 1 game soley, they end up feeling "stuck" and like they actually can't do anything else. They end up burnt out, and sometimes miserable.

[hidden trail]

It has some traits of a great game but... Well gestures

[dry swift]

I agree. I think what I wanted to say was Palia is their "main" game.

[fiery perch]

OH, wait, I think you were saying like, you'd imagine that there'd be people who would have it as a dedicated game, right? not like "no great games, there should be streamers who def do this"

[making sure i understand]

[dry swift]

Yes! exactly that. Even Runescape content creators play other games because even the grindiest communities understand burnout

[fiery perch]

Autism at it again with reading things in different tones/meanings/etc

Yes, I think I understand what youre saying now

[dry swift]

It's kind of like how I've been playing Runescape for over 20 years, but I like to take a 1-2 month break from time to time to play other games because I feel stuck.

[polar elbow]

I've said it in the past, but palia's updates actually have a fair bit of 'content' if you're just counting all the items they add... the problem is that cash shop-exclusive content is something that doesn't contribute anything to the actual game, and 90% of what gets added every patch is cash shop exclusives.
It doesnt give you any new goals to work towards, it doesn't allow you to show off any of your accomplishments, it doesnt provide a new gameplay experience, it's just... there.

[loud axle]

I dunno, personally I don't consider new home decor as "content" because it doesn't move the game forward at all. I could understand some filler patches between major content updates, but when a game is in such an unfinished state as Palia is and all we see patch after patch are more decor... major red flags.

[polar elbow]

Oh yeah, I didnt mean as major updates, but it's decent for in-between smaller updates

[hollow crescent]

that’s kinda how i see it too, cash shop i don’t see as content update, decor is iffy cuz it gives ppl something to do but for those who actually like decorating, i know a few ppl who don’t, so it’s all subjective to what ppl consider content

[loud axle]

I think Palia's unilateral focus on decor as the endgame has always thrown me for a loop.

Like... I would think progressing your skills, relationships, and the story would be the main focus with home decor as a secondary objective, not the other way around.

[hollow crescent]

it’s nice they add some quests here in there with it tho, like for example the holiday one but there was nothing for older players besides find the chests to unlock a store

[fiery perch]

There just should be a balance. A good mix of decor being endgame for some, but there needs to be more, like you're saying. Skills, relationships, story, etc.

[hollow crescent]

probably easier to turn out decor that writing the stories, comin up with the rewards, the relation ships that tie into them etc

[loud axle]

I imagine their ICs pumped out a lot of items / art pretty quickly, so yeah a lot of this stuff has probably been in the backlog and requires little to no effort to implement while the few engineers they have are busy with Elderwoods and such.

[wispy lance]

Outfits and decor don't require much coding. It's mostly copy paste from the other code.

While adding quests is harder as they have to also link it to existing quests.

At least from my point of view

[polar elbow]

I guess what I'm getting at is, Palia really offers one type of earnable reward right now: home decor. Like.. Even something as simple as giving people a way to earn things like cosmetics or pets would go a long way to laying the groundwork for a more substantial update to build on the addition of those earnables later
But as long as all of their non-decor additions to the game are just cash shop stuff, there's nothing in those updates that can be built on later, gameplay wise

[pearl wave]

And yet they did it again lmao

[polar elbow]

Let's say they add an earnable pet. Great! since it's earnable, they could add gameplay features to it as part of a major update.
It might just follow you around at first, but later updates might add the ability to bond with it, have it live at your home, and have it find items for you sometimes or something.
Can't do that when ALL pets are paywalled and are "only cosmetic".

[scarlet hazel]

I wish there was a way other then feedback to get in touch with s6

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[shut gazelle]

guys why cant i enter the majii market? i tried to enter to majii market around 11pm-2am but still i can't

[placid kite]

!market

[loud axle]

!market

[opal cypress]

Maji Market will be running for a week, every four weeks. To preview what that looks like, these are the weeks Maji Market will be active.

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[loud axle]

lol twins

[placid kite]

[shut gazelle]

ahh i c.. thank you

[regal glacier]

Omg that was the worst.

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[old tree]

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[olive karma]

Is it normal that nights are like... Very not dark ? It's almost as bright as days and you can't really notice without looking at the actual time

[hollow crescent]

no they upped the brightness i think so it’s probably effecting that too

[lean berry]

I wish it was dark again...

[sand basin]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[pearl wave]

paliabot got it covered..

[woeful plover]

Have they changed farming growth rates or something?

My farm feels less productive

[rich slate]

Preserve jars feel like less from last update tbh

[lyric night]

they replaced growth boost on apples and blueberries with harvest boost, so that's probably why

[hidden trail]

I'm surprised we haven't seen a collab between s6 and nerf since that's all they seem to do with palia 😅

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[warm python]

the laziest of photoshops

[pallid ferry]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[old tree]

Due to varying VFX settings among players, snowballs can cause a flashbang effect, so please refrain from throwing snowballs at known or unknown players without their consent. It may trigger seizures, migraines, or nausea in photosensitive individuals when hit due to the flashbang effect.

[woeful plover]

aah thanks

[old tree]

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[woeful plover]

Nooo! hahahahaha

Not Eshe telling me to "Stop. It." (about dating Kenyatta)

[old tree]

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[azure cosmos]

Why does Paliabot keep talking about snowball flashbang seizures ??

(I mean, I understood the message, but why won't it stop talking about it ??)

[old tree]

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[brisk spruce]

it's on a timer but won't post again if it's the last message. this channel is slow at this time of day though unfortunately so it's a bit overkill

[azure cosmos]

Aahhh alright thanks !
I thought the bot was going insane

[stuck oar]

Also as far as I am aware growth Boost fertilizer is bugged & does not work as intended.

At least it's never been addressed in the patch notes... & I haven't gotten around to wasting my gardening medals to test it.

So... yeah

[umbral lynx]

It's like a 2 hour timer iirc

[old tree]

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[wicked canyon]

i wish I could control if it is day or night on my plot... like if I wanted to make it always appear night

[old tree]

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[pulsar meteor]

my experience was with the adjacency buff, rather than the fertilizer, but i'd imagine it works the same. you had to be on your plot from before midnight in-game until the growth tick at 6am; and the crop had to be already on or past the first growth stage; and the 6am growth tick had to be the golden one (it was by turns every even or every odd hour, depending on server restarts, but was consistently every other hour). note that it'd screw with harvest boost, because if you had a 4-day crop grow in 3 ticks, it'd only have a 75% chance for the extra crop

(it took me three different tests of 50+ ticks to find that sweet spot and that's why i'm a business analyst by trade XD )

[old tree]

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[nocturne sparrow]

I would love to control the day cycle on my plot and make it always night. That would be brilliant!

[old tree]

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[plain briar]

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[old tree]

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[plain yew]

is there anything new that's worth logging on to play? Last played when the "prologue concluded" aka the worst ending to a questline ever

[hollow crescent]

#📢│palia-news message thats the recent update notes, the nxt ones are on the 17th, whatever is worth it for you to log on for is subjective, most is paid content updates but not sure what else will be added on the 17th besides their teaser they did #📢│palia-news message

[pallid ferry]

It feel like they're reaching at this point. With all the paywall outfits and functions they're adding, I can't help but start comparing it to all the games that focus on outfit collection and home decorating but do it way better than this.

[fiery perch]

There hasn't been an update since then, other than turning on the winter decor stuff

[olive carbon]

tHeY'rE bUsY wOrKiNg oN eLdErWoOdS

[fiery perch]

infinity nikki

[fiery perch]

dont forget theyre a
sMaLl InDiE tEaM !!!

I just hope they fix the snowballs at this point tbh.

[cosmic orchid]

What is the point of the 3rd slot if it won't continue filling it when the stack is incomplete?

Sloppy coding or bad design? Or both?

[old tree]

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[scarlet hazel]

maybe both

[cosmic orchid]

Probably both.

Like if you're gonna cap that third slot the moment it has anything in it just make it 2 slots at that point. Poor design choice.

What's weird is it doesn't seem to do it on smelters, glass, or plank makers. Just the seed makers.

I guess because the seed makers make a variable amount of seeds? So lazy coding to not check if the stack would cap before it runs it.

It would have taken maybe two or three extra lines of code.

Check job -> if job output + existing stack > 30 then stop job

[olive carbon]

It also maybe could be effected by getting unstarred seeds sometimes, which doesn't stack with starred of course, which is also sorta silly if you think about the implications of the starred/unstarred seeds creating a stop-up on the processors

[cosmic orchid]

Yeah, it's just.. goofy.

[fiery perch]

I find it silly that can happen anyways if youre putting in starred crops, and if your gardening is high enough lvl anyways to only get starred crops

[cosmic orchid]

I'm like why am I getting unstarred seeds from my starred crops

Not that it's gonna matter soon anyway I'm almost 50 gardening but when it takes up a slot in my processors it's freakin' annoying.

[fiery perch]

for me it's mainly when it's like... my gardening is high level enough anyways. I only get starred crops. why does it matter if i get unstarred seeds at that point, etc.

[olive carbon]

This just in: a paid premium extra powered seeder slot that puts seeds right into your storage

[cosmic orchid]

that'll be $50 please

[fiery perch]

[cosmic orchid]

It also has obnoxious VFX you cannot turn off

[lethal granite]

nah it does the same thing with pickling jars. for some reason they just… decided gardening - related crafters should behave this way

[cosmic orchid]

So just.. hating on economy people, got it

I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt with the seed makers possibly outputting different amounts of seeds but I also offered a (very simple) coding fix

So at this point I think we can chalk it up to "poor design choice".

[pulsar meteor]

i think this is probably fine to share - in an early test, if i'm remembering correctly, it would permanently break crafters if they had four output 'stacks' and only three output slots, so they added the limit where it can't start another cycle if it would potentially overflow

[scarlet hazel]

honestly if it perma broke the crafters, why didnt they fix the coding for it instead of whats in game now?

[pulsar meteor]

i mean, they did, depending on how you define 'fix'

[cosmic orchid]

Christmas 2023 rugs want a word

[scarlet hazel]

at this point, when they fix things they end up making it worse

[pulsar meteor]

'stop it from happening' was probably faster and simpler than 'make a new module for all these possibles'

[cosmic orchid]

a lazy fix that renders slot 3 unusable is not a fix

why even have slot 3 at that point?

[pulsar meteor]

no idea tbh

kind of an arbitrary limit anyways

[cosmic orchid]

so yeah, "bad design choice"

[fiery perch]

to be fair, if they then tried to get rid of the 'slot 3', then the same issue with 2 slots would probably happen.

not saying it's a good 'fix' or anything, of course

[cosmic orchid]

with a little bit of "sloppy/lazy code" thrown in

[fiery perch]

just saying it'd probably result in the same thing

I just feel like, for me anyways, if the gardening rule is "if you have a high enough level, you only produce star-quality crops"-- that should also be the same when it comes to the seed crafters, etc, with putting in star crops to get starred seeds

idk how easy that would be to code, of course, in comparison, but... that's what makes sense to me lol

[cosmic orchid]

I don't know how they are coding but in theory, it isn't tough

[scarlet hazel]

it probably would take time to code but i wish they would take their time instead of rushing these updates

[cosmic orchid]

But considering it seems like their code is held together with sticks and glue and the tiniest thing causes massive amounts of crumbling tech debt that breaks everything (random tools breaking, looking at you)

[scarlet hazel]

tool skins crashing everyone in a server if they were on a tool when equipped

[cosmic orchid]

The amount of code breakage we're seeing in this game is usually only present in games that have been around for 10, 15, 20 years. Like that amount of tech debt. WoW being built on top of a 20 year old Oracle DB for example.

The fact that Palia is suffering this much on the code backend as a new game is a very poor harbinger for the future.

[scarlet hazel]

currently WoW has a bug in pandaria where a lot of NPCs are on an instanced farm. that's a funny glitch, not something that makes you pull your hair out

[cosmic orchid]

Yeah, the WoW DB is in a poor state because it's runs on top of an Oracle DB that was coded in the early 2000s. It did not age well with time lol. you expect that in a 20 year old game tho.

Palia breaking every patch with the most minor things (the latest big patch broke hoes on plots... really??) is a very bad sign.

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. i honestly think elderwoods is going to destroy the game and a lot of things are going to be very bugged

[cosmic orchid]

Because such a big bug usually requires a slapdash fix (since it impacts live service) which creates more tech debt and causes more issues in the future.

And I think they've just.. put bandaid over bandaid over bandaid and eventually the dam is gonna bust open

As I've said before they seem to have zero CI/CD pipeline and just push whatever

[hollow crescent]

probably, i just hope if it does they actually address things quickly by their next update cuz if not :/ they'd lose ppl in the process

[cosmic orchid]

My prediction is Elderwoods is gonna be rushed, poor quality, and kill the game.

[scarlet hazel]

theyll already lose ppl. if elderwoods is a flop on release, its going to drive nearly everyone else away

[cosmic orchid]

Given their release quality it will be an unplayable buggy mess and drive what little players are left away, yeah.

[pulsar meteor]

especially if that coincides with Official Launch and the 'its beta' caveat no longer applies

[cosmic orchid]

That's definitely the way I see it going.

[fiery perch]

It's at least going to be a "make or break" moment, yes.

[cosmic orchid]

Oh man IT'S BETA, the eternal excuse

[fiery perch]

People will start talking about how theyre a small indie dev team, which i mean, they already do.

We'll see though. I do hope for it to improve overall, ofc, though.

[lyric night]

the interesting part is that stuff breaks that was added later on
removing crops with the hoe
the luna new year recipes

everything seems like they are redoing portions of their code bcs they are well aware of the code mess they have left from early development

[pulsar meteor]

some of us are still happy to love it through the breakage and shenanigans - Live Ops was still my favorite gaming experience, well, ever tbh - but i know that's not a mass appeal kind of thing

[pulsar meteor]

or re-learning, if there's been that much brain drain and replacement. i'm sure the documentation and code comments are their own challenge to wade through

[cosmic orchid]

It seems like an attempt to fix tech debt but it just makes it worse

[cosmic orchid]

They lost a LOT of their team due to poor management decisions, from what Glassdoor tells. Even before the buyout, management was driving the dev team into the dirt and they lost like 70-80% of their designers and software engineers.

Apparently it was like 10 out of 13 of the main devs left or something like that?

Some crazy high number.

[hollow crescent]

and tbf this is a beta even if its not advertised as it anymore, so its understandable that their tryin to make things work , they just need to be more upfront about it i think

[pulsar meteor]

about 1 in 4 were left from them, from my sources, so that tracks yeah

[cosmic orchid]

Yeah, it was a crazy high amount that quit due to management being poopheads

[pulsar meteor]

some teams got hit harder than others