💬│palia-discussions

[lyric night]

trending should be removed, thats it

[fiery perch]

I'm sitting on 5 still atm, and i listed it immediately I dont really mind for myself, cuz i personally only care for the nameplate from the actual shop-- but
the system is so flawed.

i feel like it wouldnt be as awful if the votes accumulated, or were all tied to achievements instead.

I also still wish some of the nameplates could be earned via skills. But maybe this is something they'll add in the future, since nameplates are fairly new.

[brave obsidian]

at the very least yeah, or moved to the third option choice and not thrown in your face

[celest maple]

this event is quite new so i hope they would improve it in the future 🤞🏻

[brave obsidian]

from what I gather it is not the first time they have done home tour events, just the first time there were rewards tied to it

[lilac rampart]

My 900 player level will surley pay off for something one day

[wispy lance]

They made the touring about the nameplates, not the Houses.

[celest maple]

oh, i'm not a very old player so i don't really know haha

[lyric night]

hometour is a completely new feature
also not an event, just a feature with weekly resets but they call those weeks "event" for whatever reason

[fiery perch]

one of these days!

[brave obsidian]

I logged back in after it hit steam and there was a home tour board then (months ago) then it vanished and now it is back

[fiery perch]

Home Tour is completely new!

[lilac rampart]

The first Maiji Market had some incredible furniture items. One that I love is a wall decoration fan but you could only get one. I bought 40+ of the lanterns from that event. It was advertised as being the only time these decor items would be available ever

[wispy lance]

You have 2 board at your home. 1 blue where you can visit friends and the server.
1 green for the touring feature

[brave obsidian]

yes and the green one is not new

[warm python]

That's cool for you, but a lot of people do want an actual "cosmetic" they don't have to plunk their credit card down for and to partake in a new system added to the game

[lilac rampart]

s6 stated it was an actidental showing and removed it - noted it as an unintentional sneak-peak as an upcoming feature

[wispy lance]

Unless it was in alpha...?!

[fiery perch]

I remember us rushing to go to the event to get stuff for more items, too And feeling like i had to rush to get gold during it.

[lyric night]

it was added in the patch at the end of june to tease the upcoming feature and was released this patch.

[fiery perch]

I have played since closed beta, and this is at least the first time they had house tours! (not counting when you could do tish's dream tour to showcase the tours as a whole)

[lilac rampart]

The true cake party era - all in an attempt to buy as many lanterns and flowers as you could and catch chappas for 20 tickets to spend thousands of tickets on plushies that look like statues

[warm python]

yyyyyyup lmfjkashd I remember that well.... though I did not have the energy to get the gold for the big plush

[lilac rampart]

I easily spent over a mil gold on the first market....oof

[fiery perch]

It was one of the reasons I got tempted to break out of my shell and anxiety to participate with y'all with the parties. if it wasn't for that, i would fo stayed in my chair and be an anxious mess while we conversed heheh

[brave obsidian]

that literally states it DID exist before just without an event tied to it

be it a teaser or an accident, it was there

[lilac rampart]

tbf, you rocked that throne and as a result, I also got you as a friend ❤️

[wispy lance]

Lol

[fiery perch]

Having the board there isn't the same as having the home tours, is what we're trying to say! I know the board was there to at least showcase that it was going to be a thing, but it was strictly to be on Tish's plot. Esp cuz i think, at first, it was bugged ,right? so it couldnt' release properly?

[fiery perch]

leafers for life 💚 even if i no longer wish to do cake parties

[wispy lance]

Y tish tour was initially bugged

[warm python]

You and Valk's friendship origin story: cake parties <33 socialization in game <333
Me and Valk's origin story: literally these two emotes Valk found hilarious

[fiery perch]

LOL genuinely. you posted those and i was like "ok we're friends now thanks"

[lyric night]

yeah it was bugged first but they managed to active it with their first ever actual HOTfix, which happened directly after patchday, instead of like the next week

[wispy lance]

I think it was important for it to work. So they can advertise for next patch. To hype.

[lilac rampart]

The even better part was that I was accidently pinged to join that particular party instead of VeeBee. Happy accidents

[lyric night]

the main reason for the hotfix was to fix the ongoing party issues

[wispy lance]

Oh yeah, that was bugged as well

[lilac rampart]

Hotfix fixed parties and tree issues. It claimed to fix terrain issues but I am still noticing a bunch around Bahari

[fiery perch]

Terrain issues i feel like is just Palia's staple at this point tbh

Including my wallpaper bug in my cafe that i swear will never be fixed 😔

[loud axle]

The only house tours we had during early tests were through streams at the end of each test. It was always the same... Fireworks, show off some houses, take some screenshots.

[lilac rampart]

Found a work-around for that - you have to fully remove the room and then re-add it to the plot and add everything back in to whatever you had built 🙃

[fiery perch]

my cafe will forever be broken then bc there is no way im redoing that LOL

also found the arcade.

[lilac rampart]

Does it even let you play or can you just see it? Also,

[fiery perch]

playable apparently even during tours. Which is neat

[lilac rampart]

Well that's good to know. I haven't run into other arcade machines on the tours I went on so I wasn't sure if it would let people play them. At least there's that with this update

[lyric night]

I just hope they will pull of a nice update with the one at the end of the month
maji market should happen and I definitely need more of the bloom lanterns

[fiery perch]

Wanting to add to this again, this is where again, i wish you could save "blueprints" in a sense that you can load for yourself... so if you were to move a room or delete it, you could theoretically move it back. I know if that was to be added, it'd be waaay in the future since that seems like a hassle to code, but ...

I just feel like it'd be nice

[fiery perch]

bloom lanterns are so pretty tbh

[wispy lance]

Move the room to a new HH and then back? Maybe that helps

It helped mine

[lyric night]

one of the best item that exists, also the cute veggie lantern

basically every single item from the market

[fiery perch]

i love putting the veggie lantern up by the kitchen area

[lilac rampart]

So the bloom lantern was from the first market and iirc, those items would ONLY be released in that market. It's why I stocked up ono 40 of them

[lyric night]

they said they will return, I looked it up when u wrote they were exclusive to the first market

[lilac rampart]

I'm not even mad about that because I need more

[lyric night]

I just hope that they will give them to us in the market and not tied to some rng stuff

[lyric night]

I have one in my kitchen as well

[fiery perch]

i keep forgetting they made it possible ages ago you can have another HH.

I still wish for blueprints tho, esp if it was possible to share it with friends! If it has craftable furniture, and you have the materials needed, could use those up, etc. Other items, if you have them in your storage, it can use it, if not, it's just not there or something. but that would def be harder to code

[lilac rampart]

The market serves as a good gold sink since so I don't know why they removed a lot of that in the last one. Hopefully it comes back as a nice mix between the first and second one

[lilac rampart]

If Gaia can do it with outfits with obscene layering rules, I have faith in s6

[lyric night]

they made everything available for tickets so the market is new player friendly

but I hope that at least the food items are this time for gold again

[fiery perch]

I've played a lot of Once Human recently, and it just made me appreciate and even know that "blueprints" in that way is possible tbh. Made me wish and hope for it in almost any/every game now, lol!

[lilac rampart]

In doing that, they made it less likely people would participate in chappa chase unfortunately. Playing hotpot through the chase time earned way more tickets and you could get passive tickets for just being there so most everyone just continued hotpot. I think this is where hotpot supremacy came about

[lyric night]

yeaaah chapaa chase was completely useless at the luna market, literally no reason to participate in it

will be interesting to see how they will handle their first rerun of an event

[spark pawn]

I hope we get another archway of some kind the original one is so good. Also bring back cherry blossoms so I can buy 100 of them 🙏

[warm python]

never forget original chapaa chase

[wispy lance]

The best, even though it was bugged at first 😂

[warm python]

It was the worst thing in the world LMAO

Hotpot level drama

[lyric night]

camping and highping for anyone that was not located in NA fun times

[lilac rampart]

that feeling when someone tries to steal your spawn spot that is out of the way from the crowd behind the pen

[loud axle]

I heard people were cheating a ton with it as well.

[sterile river]

ohh I love the veggies

[wispy lance]

I dah so much fun at the 1st chapaa chase.

[lilac rampart]

I'm wondering how much of that was just ping delay where it looked like people were teleporting. Basically it was like when you're hunting sernuk and they randomly jump 20 meters away

[glacial drift]

Once they added the community tickets to chappa chase I found it a lot more fun to do and a lot less frustrating

There were 100% cheaters, getting over 50 chappa in one game is not possible when the game is full of active players.

[warm python]

Oh yeah. People were literally pulling chapaas out their butts cause their cheat program added in a way to grab them from anywhere on the map

[fiery perch]

This. There were def a lot of times where it was ping and desync. There were def some who were cheating, but there were times where it was just desync too.

It looked like one of my friends was using a cheat program for it, but they weren't. And vice versa.

[marble girder]

I look forward to the day the fish and bug tanks get proper lighting in them without having to try and stick a little lamp inside the enclosures.

[glacial drift]

Normally you could tell if someone was rubber banding from lag or desynch vs full on cheating once the round total went up.

[fiery perch]

The round total at the end was usually the actual indicator for me, yeah. Because otherwise, it def could of just been weird desync of where the chapaas were or who picked it up. 😓

[lilac rampart]

I long for the day when the fish tanks are appropriate sizes and the fish move

[fiery perch]

I'd love to have an actual big aquarium where you can choose which fish you want in the tank tbh

Not a dev.

[lyric night]

cheats

[glacial drift]

Man, I coudl logcially see how the witchoutfit got yanked early, but a full on unreleased landscape?

[lilac rampart]

Their plushie collection is quite large

[lyric night]

its just not in the store thats all

[wispy lance]

!rules

[opal cypress]

Server Rules:
:one: Respect and kindness above all.
:two: No NSFW content allowed.
:three: Respect boundaries.
:four: Contribute to the conversation.
:five: No leaked or unreleased content.
:six: English only, for now.
:seven: No advertising.
:eight: No discussion of exploits, hacks, cheats, or other behavior that violates Palia’s Terms of Service.
:nine: Please respect the moderators.
:keycap_ten: Please respect the Devs.

Check out #🔖│rules message for more details.

[wispy lance]

A quick reminder of rules, especially no.5

[fiery perch]

...Yes, we know. But someone was asking a question because they genuinely didn't know.

[glacial drift]

Sorry, I found it while touring ;;;

[loud axle]

Should definitely report the plot / user.

[spark pawn]

Just on the dl it is a trending plot at the moment so I think it’s going to be brought up a lot in the near future 😬

[fiery perch]

This. I find it more important to inform so they know to report the plot and user, rather than not say anything at all.

[dense shadow]

Hello friends, quick reminder that if you see unreleased content in game it is likely the result of cheats/hacks/exploits and should be reported either in game or via Palia’s official support. As Kira noted, per rule 5 sharing it isn’t allowed as we don’t want to see things spoiled for people.

[lilac rampart]

With the initial release of the house tours system, it would need quite the overhaul to fix the issues past changing how trending works. I wonder if this is going to be something addressed in the next patch or be something that hits a backburner

[fiery perch]

Again. We know. But people didn't know and asked a question since they saw it on the home/house tour. We were just answering that question.

[hollow fox]

The point being, even if you 'know' ... others obviously do not

[fiery perch]

Which is why they asked a question adn why we answered? Isn't it more important for them to know it's unreleased, and should be reported than not say anything at all?

[dense shadow]

Understood on the intention, but gen chat is not the appropriate venue. Modmail can help clear up if something is amiss when in doubt, or as noted, submitting a report is the best and official way to handle it.

[fiery perch]

I'm going to assume you mean gen chat as in the official discord itself. And yes, modmail can help, but not when they don't know and they were asking a question as to how and about that person.

Yes, Submitting a report. Which is what we were telling them and basically informing them??

[loud axle]

I think what ValkOrii is trying to ask is if, in the future, someone asks about that particular user / plot would you like us to report their post here and not reply to it at all so that y'all as mods can PM them?

Or just ping y'all?

[dense shadow]

Gen chat in discord. Yes. The best place to ask if they are unsure if something is reportable is via a ticket. It’s not a problem at all if someone is unsure, but when in doubt submit a ticket is the go-to.

[glacial drift]

It really wasn't my intention to cause any problems. I found it while just doing normal tours which was why I asked. Seeing outfits out and about before launch day is pretty clearly a problem but I'd never heard of this at all which was why I asked.

[hollow fox]

Not pinging, no. Modmail or support, whichever is appropriate. And good question

[lilac rampart]

Sorry but when it takes weeks to get a reply on a ticket, that system needs to be fixed before it gets completely flooded with every concern

[fiery perch]

This is my point. You didn't know, you had no intention. Which is why you asked and why we were trying to give an answer, bc it needed to be reported.

[spark pawn]

Fair question i saw it earlier on the tour board and just thought I missed a new layout

[dense shadow]

No stress, you are not in trouble or causing any problems! Sometimes stuff happens and we wanted to add clarity for any new friends we have had join the discord along the way that we’re happy to help with questions about that stuff as we are able and in a way that can help prevent spoilers and whatnot.

[fiery perch]

That's exactly my point that Idk if it's being misunderstood or if I'm typing it wrong. I find it more important to at least let them know it should be reported, rather than not say anything. But it's hard to do that when the rules get reminded, and msgs get deleted. I would of understood if an image was posted, but it wasn't.

[glacial drift]

I very purposefully didn't post an image ;;;

Just feels bad to have 3 separate mods all come down on me at once. Blood Kira was plenty ;;;;

[dense shadow]

For the sake of clarity, images had been posted hence the mod responses. It was not aimed at you.

[fiery perch]

...An image was not posted? Unless I very somehow missed it, but I was typing out a msg before I then saw msgs started to get deleted, which was just in text form?

[spark pawn]

like earlier today? but not in this convo?

[hollow fox]

Nono, Clue ... no one was coming down on a single user. It was a general reminder to everyone. You're fine. If you had done something wrong, you would have gotten a warning. Which did not happen.

[fiery perch]

this is what im wondering

[wispy lance]

Sorry, I just wanted to act fast to stop it from spreading. I was on and off this chat as I was chatting with the rest as well.

[dense shadow]

We have had to step in a couple of times all in the last couple of hours due to multiple posts, hence why it seems like suddenly there’s a swarm of mod cats giving reminders.

[fiery perch]

But in this instance, there were no images. That is the point we're trying to make. They even purposely said they didn't post an image, because they didn't want to have some form of spoiler there.

[loud axle]

Just another reason for why the trending tab needs to go ASAP.

[spark pawn]

Ah I don’t think anyone here was involved in those convos so it just felt like Club was being piled on by mods all the sudden. If that makes sense.

[warm python]

Yeah I've been here the last few hours aside from watching YouTube and I didn't see anything of the sort

Just talk about tours and hotpot and chapaa chase

[spark pawn]

Can mods reach out to Palia to let them know about the tending tour board? I think it’s going to be an issue until it gets off the trending area. Like we can make reports but maybe you guys have more pull?

[dense shadow]

Aye and definitely not the case nor intended sentiment just happened to be a bunch of us out watching things at the same time because it caused a bit of chaos across a couple of different channels having images and such popping up. All is otherwise well.

[lilac rampart]

It may be beneficial that if a mod is already typing a response, other mods hold off. Kira was the first to respond and should have been the mod-on-point for this. Nothing horrible came from it and there is always room for improvement

[loud axle]

I do wonder how the communication is with S6 these days. Back when I was a mod for Ragnarok Online we had instant messenger for direct communication with the CMs and a couple phone numbers for emergencies if things were really on fire. Hopefully the Mods and Shepps have some decent support.

[torpid pollen]

i feel like there is no communication with s6 at all.

also took a break from the game and coming back to well... all this hahaha

[loud axle]

Yeah it's been...quite the change from back when they'd be in here chatting with us from time to time.

Speaking of S6!

[narrow narwhal]

We're here 😮

[torpid pollen]

ya i dont talk in gen anymore cuz the clique between regulars and mods there is so uncomfy

[fiery perch]

Hi, WC.

[loud axle]

Crab are y'all aware of the trending plot in question?

[torpid pollen]

and the weird names they give each other too

[fiery perch]

I'm assuming you saw what we were talking about and what happened?

[glacial drift]

😬

[narrow narwhal]

Yeah we're aware.

[fiery perch]

Because I'm honestly still very much confused as to... can I not inform people to report a plot they mention due to it obviously being... well, you know?

[young plank]

uh im out of context but uh yeah LOL i need more coffee

[torpid pollen]

a lot of regulars here do the mods job better then the actual mods themselves sometimes imo

[somber crag]

You can. I really think we were all on the same page, it just got a lil' messy because leaks make us a little WORRIED. We probably reacted a lil' too quick, but you can tell people to report a plot when they don't know. ❤️

[fiery perch]

Thank you. This is what I was trying to get across/understand. You always understand me.

[torpid pollen]

i wonder why s6 doesnt have anti cheat in place to stop this... isnt that what every game company does?

[young plank]

Whats the plot to report?

[loud axle]

To be entirely fair, coming from someone who's been a mod around a few places... It's not always great when regulars take it up on themselves to do that job, and it's difficult to make calls in some of the more vague situations. Sometimes you make a call and it might not be the right one, but you do your best.

[fiery perch]

I can't say here (from what i understand), but hopefully you can ask in modmail & get an answer. But you'll know it if you come across it tbh.

[somber crag]

Yeah, all good. No harm, no foul. We didn't intend to make anyone feel like we were dropping in from the ceiling, lol.

[loud axle]

That's a tough one, a lot of anti cheat programs are very intrusive and end up flagging things that aren't really cheats, such as accessibility features.

For as non-competitive as Palia has tried to be, I'd hope it wouldn't be needed.

[torpid pollen]

true. but if s6 just made the game actually accessable then they wouldnt have these issues in the first place. its just really annoying how cheating is widespread but there just isnt anything in place to stop it even a little

[lilac rampart]

I am curious if there are protocols for mods for responding in the discord for situations like this. Was it just happenstance that multiple mods showed up at once? Is it a first mod to respond is the mod on-point? Is it everyone chimes in if they have something? Just for future reference

[fiery perch]

It just felt really bad, since we were trying to inform them. And I hope the other person who was in the discussion is feeling okay. I know how anxiety-inducing these things are.

Thank you for clearing things up either way, too, btw. Gen. seem to understand where I'm coming from and what I'm saying whenever we're talkin', and i appreciate that 💛

[somber crag]

Part of it is that we onboarded some new moderators a handful of weeks/month-ish ago, so there's new situations that are popping up that we're working through. Because it was posted in a chat and not through a ticket, a couple of us had eyes on it and we thought to add clarity... in this situation, I think it came across like someone did something very wrong, but that wasn't the intention.

[loud axle]

Yeah I don't know where those features are in the pipeline at this point with ... all that has happened recently.

I'm also hoping people are on top of reporting cheaters and S6 is taking swift action. It's one of those things you need to nip in the bud early or it gets pretty rampant pretty fast.

[somber crag]

We don't mean to always chime in, but I do think it's good to remind ourselves to not all jump in when there's a discussion like that happening! Sometimes we're doing it to support another mod, tho.

[lilac rampart]

I recall there being another mod turn-over and know some of the mods are newer. So what I'm understanding is that there is not a procedure in-place for responding to issues like what happened here which made it into a bit of a kerfuffle. I wonder if it would be beneficial to establish some order of operations for situations like this in the future

[somber crag]

Following up to say you're all good! Whoopsies on our part if it felt like we were raining down on you - leaks make us a little weary, and we were all just trying to provide clarity. I think it came off a different way than we had hoped, but you're good! ❤️

[glacial drift]

It's alright. I know moderating is a hard and pretty thankless job. I was just shocked to have called now four mods and a Sixer down upon chat ;;;

[somber crag]

WC is always lurking.... 👀

I didn't even know he was there, tbh. LOL.

[lilac rampart]

The power you wield is immeasurable. Use it for good

[glacial drift]

I just wanted to know if it was a Dev or if it was indeed something worth reporting ;;;

[young plank]

and im still lost on everything LOL

[somber crag]

Devs shouldn't (I HOPE NOT) be posted unreleased content, so if you see anything like that in game... always better to be safe than sorry. You posting about it is really okay, we just try to keep things from spreading like wildfire.

[fiery perch]

^ And that's why I was getting confused/frustrated/unsure on the right term, because there were no images posted. And we were just trying to inform it was something that needed reported, until stuff started to get deleted, and reminded. 😓 ...

[glacial drift]

I posted the user name, I can see why that needed to be deleted. I was trying to be vuage without descibeing WHAT I was seeing so it be as least spoilerly as possible

[warm python]

There's a housing plot going around that is using unreleased content so just some stuff re: that

[somber crag]

We do have procedures in place, it's why the message got deleted... but sometimes not everything is going to be done perfectly, especially when mods are dealing with something that might be new to them. We are only human.

[signal kayak]

and a lot of new players (and some older player's, like myself) may not exactly know what's a leaked item or not. it's sometimes faster to snag a screenshot and ask the question than trying to google things. but that's my two cents

[somber crag]

It's not just images, unfortunately! Any discussion around leaked content is not something we love. That's different from someone going, "Uhhh, is this unreleased?" And having people tell them how to report it. We're talking about discussions like, "I saw this in game, how do I get it?"

[fiery perch]

I can understand this! But it was specifically told that an image was posted and that's why messages were deleted. That's what i was referencing!

[somber crag]

For sure, and if you're doing it in good faith... that's okay! No one got actioned against here, it was just removed.

[fiery perch]

(I will say, if it was a misunderstanding, i can also understand this bc like you said, we're all human)

[somber crag]

There was an image posted elsewhere in the server (and online), so I think there was some confusion there!

[lilac rampart]

Right, they were deleted by the first mod to respond with the rule reminder. It was after that that multiple mods jumped in. That's the procedure part that I'm more focused on

[narrow narwhal]

I'm just here because @loud axle said they missed me (my interpretation 😉 )

[fiery perch]

This is what we/I were trying to figure out too, but I didn't really see an answer to that... So thank you for that clarification too!

[somber crag]

Again, sometimes people come in to assist a mod if they need backup/help with clarifying or if the mod that started the interaction tags someone else in because they need to step away, etc, etc. I don't disagree that it's best to have one mod deal with a situation, but we always appreciate some grace when dealing with these issues - we're working on a volunteer basis, so we're just doing what we can.

[loud axle]

I seem to recall there was a specific summoning ritual required back in the day...

[somber crag]

It was just a small misunderstanding, but hopefully everyone involved knows you're good. ❤️

[loud axle]

Something regarding the moon, IIRC?

[narrow narwhal]

Lol I couldn't tell you; we've been here for how many years now Roan?

[loud axle]

Three years now!

[lilac rampart]

So back to my original first message after the initial start of the kerfuffle to get back on track, the plot visiting release needs quite a bit of work before it is more balanced for all users while not showcasing violations of ToS. This would need to be a larger rework and I am worried it will fall on the back-burner. This was the big summer release that the public players know of thus far so it would be a shame for it to sit with many issues

[narrow narwhal]

Absolutely wild.

[white plank]

I was excited to share my plot at first. I have done so much collecting of materials and spent so much time placing things just so and designing unique areas. The nameplates seemed like a nice way to recognize people for the work they put in to decorating their homes. Saturday I became a victim of the rate me I'll rate you scheme and my excitement turned quickly to dismay and disappointment. I was asked to visit homes and told what rankings people expected. Many of these homes were not decorated at all. Just machines and garden plots. Maybe a building or 2. Some were even empty. These homes had more votes than mine and people had done nothing to earn the nameplate they wanted to get. I have a plot on tour, ign Annajie Jo'elle, and you can see it if you want but I don't care anymore if I get any of the nameplates at all. I probably won't wear it cause it means nothing. I'm really kinda sad about that. And the nameplates I did earn last week are still locked anyways. Just something else broken in this game.

[lilac rampart]

That's frustrating. I encountred it a few times on my plot servers and ignored them. It became even more frustrating with this batch as a number of plots are named with what people want viewers to vote with, a lot of them showing minimal effort like Annaj stated.

[young plank]

And then theres me thats just spamming the same one over and over to just get my tickets and call it a day. I mean people make good homes but i just dont care to look LOL

[narrow narwhal]

Yeah I hear you that's frustrating. It's a difficult feature to set up properly to avoid what you're describing Annaj while still accomplishing its goal and not being infinite scope. I expect it's something we're going to continue to iterate on but I'd rather release an *oka version and iterate than wait until perfect, you know?

[lyric night]

A huge improvement would be to save the progress towards a nameplate instead of completely wiping it at reset

[loud axle]

Sorry to hear you're experiencing that. It's definitely why I think the plots you visit and rate need to be random, and the trending / latest tabs removed. There needs to be an option for some kind negative rating as well to still get your reward for visiting and rating, but not rewarding minimal effort.

As long as the exact number is hidden from people and rewards are still given out at the end of the week, it should result in a more wholesome and truthful system without making people feel bad.

[warm python]

Yeah that's my biggest suggestion too, re: progress saving. I feel as if a simple first step would just be to make the rewards cumulative instead of resetting every week, to lessen people's panic about not hitting the goal in time, which would help people feel more relaxed a bit and cut down on the frantic spamming

[narrow narwhal]

These are really good suggestions.

[fiery perch]

Even if it was votes that were tied to specific plots, so you could compare how the votes are going compared to them that you can view yourself, it'd be neat. Idk how that would properly work, or but it's something I think could be fun to see. I like statistics sometimes

[lilac rampart]

Or a category system for different plot types. A category for homes, one for utilizing a lot of the builders customization, etc

[warm python]

Housing is basically the endgame, pretty much everything leads to it, so it's important to not tie it to stressful competition imo! Mentioned it before but it makes it that even if someone doesn't hit the goal needed, they still get the seratonin boost of Numbers Go Up and making progress

[lilac rampart]

Theme weeks could also be a cool addition - giving users a week notice for the theme and then top rated participants receiving something simple

[lilac rampart]

Lore is the endgame for me and I hold true to that

[warm python]

and as someone currently going through leveling every job in FFXIV and having done the same on alts, I can assure you the Number Go Up mood boost does a TON for online game engagement

[fiery perch]

Disney Dreamlight has something similar, that i just ... honestly found out about today sinec im giving the game another try. Having themes, and specific furniture has different "vibes" and "requirements" that fit in that category. It'd be kinda cool if Palia had something similar

[marble girder]

Hi Annaj, I think many of us share this sentiment too. That being said, I wanted to let you know that I was touring your plot and was blown away at your wooden building block structures. All the little details in and outside of them really show how much thought and time you've put into this space. I hope you are proud of your creation because it is insanely lovely. I look forward to seeing it expand if you ever wish to keep sharing it on the Home Tour board. 💐

[warm python]

which is why I'm such a big pusher for rewards based on progress

[loud axle]

Obviously the internal bandwidth is probably stretched as well but it would be neat to have a couple featured "S6 picks" at the end of each week as well to highlight people that maybe didn't get as many votes that week for one reason or the other but that still put the effort in.

[fiery perch]

example

[loud axle]

I need to set up another maze plot for people to visit.

[white plank]

Ty Tart! That means so much more to me then a nameplate anyone can get

[fiery perch]

I'd like to visit any of your plots or even add you if you were comfy with it

[loud axle]

I haven't logged on in ages lol

[lilac rampart]

I'm just glad people who bother to look into my buildings can find the arcade room and play

[marble girder]

[loud axle]

But I appreciate you!

[fiery perch]

I had a feeling. I login just to test things or get screenshots to help players if needed at this point. ...sometimes i also have it on while im idle/afk cuz i forget to close it

[loud axle]

The bug catching rate changes forever ago left a really bad taste in my mouth. I still hang around to see what's new and throw my two cents in, and I'm hoping there will be something to pull me back in eventually.

[lilac rampart]

Hunting parties wiping out full servers is what's ruining it for me right now. Fingers crossed something catches your eye soon

[fiery perch]

Completely valid tbh. I just hope for more co-op opportunities, that we've discussed almost endlessly together by this point

[loud axle]

I will die on the hill that we need trading~

[fiery perch]

I also loved when we talked about the possible quests for dyes and stuff, too. I know you talked about it with tohers more than me, too, but i rly enjoyed us also ping-ponging back and forth for a moment.

[lilac rampart]

I just put in the suggestion that I've been sitting on awhile (and I imagine is already submitted) that players should be allowed to send mail to other players and if they want, attach a gift like the NPCs can

[loud axle]

I would have so much more incentive to play if I could actually help people get the rare bugs and such I was really good at finding / catching and trade them for the damn fish I was never in a million years going to have the patience to catch

[fiery perch]

And yes, Trading. I still would love the idea of a cute little flea market area, where you can customize your own stall tbh. and NPCs could come over and walk by.

[fiery perch]

just send you an arcade machine

[lilac rampart]

It would be loved and adorred along with my hoard

[fiery perch]

Definitely. It's just be such a nice QoL and accessibility. Help with socialization and just feeling like a community tbh

[sand fossil]

Hiii ! Please, is it possible to have Reth as first Shepp ??

[barren wyvern]

Yes, any of the characters can be your Shepp.

[loud axle]

So did the plot get taken care of? 👀

[sand fossil]

So, what doesn't he purpose me to be my Shepp ??

[bright ledge]

did u do his lv4 or 5 quest

[sand fossil]

I just have not the sentence '-'

[barren wyvern]

If you use a bug jar while in party you can help people find rare bugs and catch them.

[sand fossil]

I can't even ask him x) But I know I have to be lvl 4 with him ^^

[loud axle]

Hated Buzzy Jars TBH. Anything that points out rare resources leads to people missing out because they simply don't have those items instead of there just being an element of pure luck while searching. :/

[barren wyvern]

There's some luck involved while mining in Bahari Bay, but I get what you mean.

[loud axle]

Ragnarok had a massive problem with an item called Convex Mirrors that showed the exact location / spawn time of bosses on maps. If you didn't have one, you absolutely could not compete with those that did.

Yeah... Plus I enjoy the exploration and combing through a map looking for stuff! Part of why I hate fishing, can't stomach just standing in place for long lol

[dusk echo]

what's everyone's go-to money maker? :3

[unborn vigil]

Hey so I just downloaded this game looking for something similar to harvest moon and story of seasons, does anyone know if outfit crafting is ever gonna be a thing?

[lyric night]

not yet, its still up (with a whopping 110 likes, damn)

[lilac rampart]

As Palia is a free game, in-game cosmetics are the main money-maker so this is unlikely

[unborn vigil]

Dang that sucks

[lilac rampart]

Gotta keep the servers on and staff paid somehow

[lilac rampart]

This feels like a question better-fit for #🐣│palia-newbies

[dusk echo]

understood! ty. i've been playing for a few months so i wasn't sure lol

[lilac rampart]

Ah, I wasn't sure since it has you marked as new on the server. I wiill answer you over there!

[bright ledge]

you mean you didnt just bloodybranches spawn?

[loud axle]

Oh I definitely did when I got them! Good times.

[fathom palm]

i feel ya :/ spent hours and hours on this boardwalk build and just... can hardly even get ppl here. and yeah going to a top house thats like...almost nothing is wildly demotivating. but maybe things will level out once the house tour system gets updates. thought maybe the first week jsut wasnt my week so revamped and it still seems like not alot of people unless your on the featured page. maybe they could expand it with like, a front view screenshot of the place your visiting? idk jsut a thought

edit - gunna try to maybe take some screenshots for the channel and see if that helps T.T i dont even want a specific reaction i just want people to enjoy the space i made.

[fleet steppe]

yea the tour system was poorly conceived

it takes the fun out of touring plots, it's a totally different experience and now reward-driven

kind of similar to how they destroyed hotpot with the underground implementation

[fathom palm]

oh man yeah id kill for better luck w that wheel >.> so many games so little pirate cosmetics to show for it

[fleet steppe]

i've been urging people to be patient as S6 gets back on its feet – the acquisition put some cash back in their pockets and i hoped they would snap back into action, but this last patch didn't bring anything significant to the game… lot of people who have been big on palia are playing and streaming other games more often

[fathom palm]

yeah alot of my friends are waiting for more content :/

[sinful birch]

Same. The only nice thing about all those junk spins is never having to run to Zeki's for milk or butter anymore.

[fleet steppe]

if the next patch brings only more cash shop items and poorly thought out small features i reckon the moment might pass for palia

[fathom palm]

i hope not T.T i really enjoy this game

[fleet steppe]

me too!

[fleet steppe]

the market hotpot system was way better - being able to save up to purchase specific things vs. just randomly spinning… the scoring system also led to much more cooperative and fun gameplay as everyone got a share of the total table points at the end

[fathom palm]

ill def agree w that. its endless. and people jsut shouting out what they need def takes the spirit out of it

[fleet steppe]

well and people are just spamming games with no care for how well they play

[fathom palm]

oof v.v

[polar elbow]

time and again I really feel like there's a huge disconnect between what S6 envisions as cozy, vs what the playerbase envisions as cozy
I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, cozy = good vibes, low stress, but when I look at the way a lot of these new features are being implemented, I see... bad vibes, high stress all the time :/

they got the atmosphere of the world and its characters right, but the gameplay mechanics... not so much, imo

[lilac rampart]

Cozy doesn't also have to mean non-competitive but the "competitive" inclusions that have been added have had rough releases, making them foster some negative interactions

[polar elbow]

I think the two largest factors that contribute to the "bad vibes" that I can see is 1) fighting over resources, whether it be things like flow groves or hotpot tables(hopefully resolved since I heard they added another table?)
and 2) unneccessary time limits/FOMO, especially when tied to pity-less RNG mechanics

for example the "must earn this many reacts in a week or else you have to start over from square one next week" is super high stress IMO

[lilac rampart]

Agreed on both points. Groves seem to be better handled by the player base these days but palium is hit or miss still. Hunting has become a bigger issue with so many people rushing to get plushies. The bug plushies haven't had as large of an issue because honey lures allow for more than just members of one party to benefit. The reactions should build over time and if that means changing the number needed to unlock plates higher, so be it. It makes it more of a goal over time rather than who got lucky on the trending/random list generation

[vagrant star]

Or make it 200 in one week or 1000 lifetime ones (or whatever)...

[warm python]

I mentioned earlier but I feel like adding another table doesn't solve all the toxicity, since a lot of the angy is coming from people saying people stole a seat so they can't play with their friends. The only way to honestly fix this is either have hotpot as furniture on one's own plot, or make hotpot its own separate instance with a party queue system, but the latter would have to be a whole new system that they absolutely do not have the resources to do lol

[brittle pike]

Okay am i insane? Is there not usually a bridge there??

[warm python]

Someone else can confirm but I did hear a section of the pier went poof this patch for unknown reasons

[young plank]

Flooded fortress steps are also missing, The rocks by the wind temple just phase through. I even fell through the map once and just kept falling further XD

[brittle pike]

Omg how funny

[fiery perch]

Yea, got discussed not too long ago. A lot of the terrain has some bits and pieces missing.

[warm python]

[lilac rampart]

Just stay there and collect crabs as the game intends.

[oak siren]

I am on pc and ended up in a server with missing socks so not just a switch issue.

[tribal jacinth]

I'm not a game designer or anything but I think putting out game systems that has rewards that hasnt been perfected isnt really a good thing, seems like a recipe for things to go really wrong,

[oak siren]

Yeah it fixed it when I left the server. I thought it was just that server being weird lol

Anyway, wish I could faze through the cracked wall leading to the secret place on our plot. Can’s that mesh be broken?

[lilac rampart]

I've enjoyed watching how the secret place has had slight changes building up over the patches

[oak siren]

Yeah they patched it forever ago by creating an invisible barrier

[oak siren]

Tbh I have not really looked at it too much since we were last able to get in

[lilac rampart]

I was a good noodle and didn't sneak in. I just creep at the crack...

[oak siren]

I mean they never said NOT to do it. And it was a very early pre-release that they didn’t patch before release so I didn’t think it was illegal to do lol. Just figured it was like a little Easter egg

[lilac rampart]

Oh absolutely, same with what used to be possible with the old "stairs"

[oak siren]

i can still clime and look over the wall lol

[sudden bay]

I feel like this is a huge issue for S6 and not really a good attitude to have mainly because nothing is ever reiterated. The feature is released and then we hear nothing about it ever again. I do appreciate you adding the extra hotpot table to the underground though. I think as players we would much rather the released version be perfect rather than you releaseing just an "ok" version.

[calm fiber]

Can someone explain to me how the house tours work? I'm thinking it's similar to DDLV and the tallys add up at the end of the week but I want to confirm.

Thank you!

[full owl]

HI All. Has there been any updates on the black fish tanks yet? Just picked up all my fish it was depressing my collection was finally growing.

[signal kayak]

none yet, probably won't be until the end of the month when we get the next update

[sudden bay]

This might not help but if you don't place them so four are together the fish are fine. Guess not but it did work removing two and just placing those two somewhere else.

[vapid mantle]

i wanna be able to collect these from bugs too lol theyre so pretty

[vast bobcat]

cut

[fathom pecan]

Is the voice changer in the mirror STILL not fixed? I'm stuck with a very deep voice...

[worldly grotto]

Is it worth going from pickled potatos to apple jam?
Im a bit scared by the apple trees taking 12 hours to grow and only yielding 3 times 😟

[worldly grotto]

I was able to change my voice, but it doesnt preview the voice for some reason.
I looked for a youtube video that lists them all

[fathom pecan]

Yeah... u-u can you give me that link somehow?

[worldly grotto]

Yeah one sec

https://youtu.be/kvgFXj0mVIg

I used this one. I think the voices in the wardrobe arent labeled a or b anymore, the first 10 (if i remember right) where the fem voices and the last 10 the other

[worldly grotto]

Oops ping sorry forgot to use the reply feature.
Ive had a squeaky voice that was stuck back from the character reset issue that was happening last year :')

[vagrant star]

Just found the grove in my server. Failed to catch the bug though XD

[worldly grotto]

can anyone tell me how many apples an apple tree gives per indivudal harvest?
Cant seem to find anything on the wiki

[lyric night]

16 without
24 with harvest boost

[worldly grotto]

Thank you

Does Harvest Increase from its neighbors also do that?

[lyric night]

yeah

[worldly grotto]

lovely, do you got experience moving the plot with the "select grouped" thing? Does that work? Im not sure of the final location for my connected land, and since apple trees will be placed on multiple soil spots id like to be sure

[lyric night]

my trees are all placed on their own soil, no clue how the group select behaves when a tree is planted across 2 or more soils

maybe someone in #🌱│gardening could help u with that question

[worldly grotto]

Fair, thank you! :>

[vagrant star]

Not sure if you got help yet, but I've just been unable to move my apple tree that is on two patches of soil. Last update, with the one on one patch of soil the soil could be moved without issues though.

[violet tendon]

Is it me or had palia got more buggy recently?

[median orbit]

When do you guys think pebbled plunder will ever be fixed, by bet is on this time next year

WOW THAT LONG???

that's a little funny ngl

[gusty fossil]

I think I finished it in closed beta. So sometime after that

[sterile river]

I was up in the Windmill area and tried to jump to a tiny island in front of it, and I fell through as well. I wonder with all the issues if they will do a between month patch or will it take till end of month to hopefully remedy the issues. I'm ok with cloudy fish tanks for a while, or I may need to rethink their positions if they can only be stacked/grouped to a set number to keep them clear. But to re-catch them all...

[waxen epoch]

Can you get the recipes for the makeshift furniture ever or do you have to find multiple of the same item to get more than one of them?

[night marsh]

if this weeks ends, will i lose the name plate from which i have earnd last week? Someone know that?

[vagrant star]

You can't find the recipes at all.

[vagrant star]

From what I've understood, nameplates are yours to keep. There's no data yet though, as this is the second week of them.

[signal kayak]

would be really poopy of s6 to make it so that you have to get 200 emojis every week to keep your nameplate. if that was really the case, house tours are not going to be done much

[vagrant star]

Would be, yes. Just wanted to mention it in case they do think that way...
For me, having a "showing off last week's many reactions" nameplate makes sense, however I don't think it's the case with the one we got.

[native path]

Can anyone here possibly tell me if you can continue to decorate your plot when it's up for being toured as a home tour? I suck at decorating and know nothing about this side of the game but, she loves it and not knowing is she can continue to work on her plot is putting her off adding it. Tried to Google this but couldn't find definitive answer. Tia

[olive carbon]

Yes, your plot will update to the tour as you work on it

[native path]

Ah okay, thanks so much for responding so quickly. I will let her know.

[quartz inlet]

Where can I find the channel to post my IGN for house tours?

[unreal pilot]

#🏡│home-reactions

[calm gale]

And the more formal https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1267963034110922904

[quartz inlet]

@unreal pilot Thanks!

[frail meadow]

Is there a way to delete your character?

[acoustic ember]

From what I know only support can do that at this time. Unsure if that will change

[frail meadow]

Okay thank you

Anyone having any issues with the -1 error login code on steam? I am unable to play and won't even allow me to get in

[valid sonnet]

The long nosed unicornfish makes me sad... I've been fishing for this fish for 6 hours (6 a.m. to 6 p.m. ingame)... I'm about to cry and I'm slowly losing hope... Any Tips?

[vagrant star]

It's extremely rare, as it's epic rarity. Patience is the only idea I have...

[valid sonnet]

Oh, what a pity... I was hoping I could improve something... It's nerve-racking to do the same thing for hours

[vagrant star]

I agree... I'd guess it has a catch rate of maybe 1-2 % or so...

If you're fishing for one specific fish, you can also wait until the fish drops, stops you from having to reel in many "wrong" fishes...

[valid sonnet]

Wait... Thats possible?

Omg you lucky one🥲

Okay i try one more time

[vagrant star]

It is, yes. You need to take the rod out of the water though, else it'll be the same fish all the time.

[vagrant star]

It'll only appear at daytime if I remember correctly, so from :15 to :45 real life or from 6 am to 6 pm in-game.

[valid sonnet]

Oh okay... Thx

[valid sonnet]

I got it 🎉

[wary hinge]

Completely coincidental I'm sure, cuz RNG is gonna RNG, but I've caught it twice and both times were on the little island off the right of the docks on the right side of the light house. You have glide down from the light house to get there. The first time I caught it was on the second cast, and the second time I caught it was on the first cast.

[honest scarab]

I've spent a lot of time catching epic fish and I've had good luck with the long nosed unicorn fish since I caught my first one and I can say there is no one better or worse spot up and down the Bahari coast. Many people will say the docks behind the lighthouse and since so many people try there it just means more tries at the RNG in that spot so more successes simply due to math. To get a LNU on hook takes patience and not spending time reeling in the fish you don't want. Once you see which fish has bitten the bait, if it's not the LNU just wait until it lets go and then reel in line and cast again. Keep in mind if you get the LNU but don't reel it in and it gets away do not reel the line in, leave it and the next fish will again be a LNU. There are a number of foods which will give you buffs while you fish, check them out: fish stew, sushi/sashimi, trout dinner. But my number one suggestion is to use the Major Size Zone Buff hook you buy from Einar, it makes the green fishing reticle area larger and easier to catch the fish - remember to focus the bobber in the center of it, not the fish.

[woeful meadow]

Also caught it quickly, threw something about 20 times and luckily i threw into fishing node do my first ancient fish is also star quality

[valid sonnet]

Omg thx for the Tips ❤️

[mossy mica]

Ain’t no way I just got a whole Underground server to myself.

[rare pine]

Uuuuuhhhhhhh

[digital rose]

Tish is just rage redecorating again.

[steady lily]

I hope we get more body types sooner than later. I'd love to make a buff lady character Similar to Sifuu

[rare pine]

I did . I had a mini panic attack for 5 seconds because the last time this happened I got stuck in the floor and had to restart because I wasn't waiting 30 minutes to FT home.

[hard phoenix]

Is there a dev map for the game featuring potential new content?

[steady lily]

Unfortunately not

[vagrant star]

Did unstuck not work?

[rare pine]

Since the update, unstuck has been sending me into a wierd void.

[vagrant star]

Oh, I see. Thanks for explaining!

[viral tinsel]

does anyone happen to know if the makeshift stuff has different rarities per item? i swear i have 20 pantries and i never seem to get any of the planters so im just wondering if i have horrible luck or if thats how its supposed to be

[hallow idol]

Do glitched buildings on a plot work when you put it up for tour?

[graceful agate]

When are we gonna get to see our caught star fish again? The tanks are wrapped and I have been trying to think of them as being in quarantine....

[lyric night]

probably with the patch at the end of the month

[graceful agate]

Ok.. thank you 🙂

[fathom pecan]

Thank you so much >~<

[sudden bay]

I think if S6 let us have hotpot on our lots like the arcade game it would go a long way with player satisfaction and also will help with forming communities and lead to longer lasting friendships. What do you think?

[signal kayak]

how can i put this.... i don't ever think we will have a hotpot table at our homes, even though people want it. the only reason is because it's now tied to the wheel in the underground and s6 loves padding things out with rng and time gating. the only way i can see us having a hotpot on our plots is if they removed getting coins from plot games because i can totally see solo players just devoting a complete day to playing hotpot and getting tons of coins to spin at the wheel. but i don't know if there would be an easy way of changing the coding for one hotpot location vs another

and the reason i can see solo players doing that is because it's exactly what i would do

[sudden bay]

They could still have it open from 6pm-3am

and make it so you need four players

[signal kayak]

then solo players wouldn't need the hot pot anyways

[bright ledge]

its likely tied to the minigame starting/ending itself code wise, unless they did another......weird code thing and its unneccesarily complicated

[signal kayak]

i don't play hotpot as often because i dislike it when other players just join a table and afk it, letting their time waste down and slowing the game down in the process. i usually only take enough time to look at the draw card and choice the either to keep or get rid of

[sudden bay]

Well, we need some way to be able to congregrate on our lots. Yeah, decorating is fun but if you don't spend time there or people come by just to look it's really a lot of work for only us to see. The home tours was a good concept but it's fallen flat. Again, that is a single player activity. You can't even go look at the home tours with anyone.

[signal kayak]

i'm trying to think of something (trying to think back on animal crossing minigames honestly)

[violet stone]

I haven't logged in for awhile until yesterday, all my fish tanks seem to be broken. The transparency is now opaque. Is this a known bug or just me?

[signal kayak]

known bug, fix probably at end of month

[violet stone]

thanks!

[hoary prawn]

Last year Summer Maji Market took place August 29, 2023 to September 26, 2023. For this year event, since the hot pot mini-game has already been added at the underground black market, something similar to the hot pot game, for example, a food tiles games (3 X Apple Pies/ 3 X Celebration Cakes/ 3 X Crab Pot Pies/ 3 X Tomato Soups / 3 X Chili Oil Dumplings/ 3 X Muujin Bahari, etc.) would be nice if there’s one.

[signal kayak]

that would be an interesting idea. kinda like memory maybe? where players will flip over two cards and see if they match?

the animal crossing mini-games are out, most of them require a large space to play them, although, while it's not really on our plots, they could open up the underground to have access to more mini-games through sewer tunnels that could take you to the location of some of the games. random server area and the players choose which one they go to

[gilded skiff]

I totally agree, with the afk players! it is really frustrating, espacilly if most players around the table, are really quick, and then you have the afk player, destroying it, and the game takes for ever to get through. best way is to have a group of friends to play hotpot with.

[fathom pecan]

What if there were events to make some concepts or something and add them to the game?

[signal kayak]

or play solo like i was able to a lot at the new year's event. when people got what they wanted a lot of tables were empty, yeah, you had to wait for the timer to start the game, but once that was done, the ai just flipped cards

[modern saddle]

Does anyone know if the arcade machine is still available to purchase in the black market or has anyone seen one since last patch? I've been reloading in and out 6 times a day for a week now and haven't seen it.

[vapid wasp]

And I’m over here with like 18…I’d share it if I could

[modern saddle]

Exactly, but I've been trying for a week now, multiple times a night in and out of servers, so that's why I'm asking if anyone has seen one since last patch? Could be something needed to be reported if not.

but have you seen it since last patch?

[sudden bay]

I heard twice a day you can vote

[whole crater]

which meat gives x27 harvest boost fert or speedygro

[sweet raft]

You ever wish there was an offline version of Palia? Me rn. I'm in the car and I wanna play on my Switch.

[calm gale]

Use phone as hot hotspot

[fast scarab]

whats the odds of a lunar fairy moth dropping a plush? it says its common?

[hollow crescent]

iirc it’s 1/100? at least that’s what i rmember someone say

[fast scarab]

Hec 0-o. My luck is trash then

[trim sluice]

I cant wait for them to repair the fish tank issue I wonder how long it will take

[fast scarab]

I know right. I’m tired of looking at broken textures.

[trim sluice]

same lmao I have a whole room dedicated for them and it looks sad right now

[whole crater]

any easy food to make to make harvestboost

[iron echo]

Most of the time they probably crashed, I crash constantly while playing and I know many others do too

[sudden bay]

If they go slow for two rounds letting the time out they crashed.

[mossy mica]

I’m the same way, especially when someone takes the entire 30 seconds from the start of the game. I’m quick, but my game crashed in the middle of a round yesterday, and I was so self conscious about it because I didn’t want the others thinking I’m AFK/purposefully running down the clock. 😣

[mossy mica]

It’s weird some of my fish aren’t affected, and some are. This is across various plots.

[fringe mirage]

got my first ruby! and its starred

is it worth keeping for anything? gives a good 5k+ so may sell it

[junior plank]

you can decorate with starred gems, but otherwise not particularly other than the pride of having it

[mystic zealot]

Anyone new that wants help clearing their plot from stones? Please let me know ^^ ❤️

[wispy lance]

TAHARU!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's been showing in my underground quite a lot

If I see you on ill tag you

[hearty phoenix]

I'm disappointed with how the house tour thing is working. It's all about getting the react instead about people showing off their hard work and getting ideas for your own plot. I think if people received the same nameplates for visiting plots that it might slow down the craziness. There is no special reward for the people with truly stunning plots. Someone with empty room after empty room can get the same number of reacts with social media activity.

[sterile river]

Every once in a while, I get lucky and join a speed player table. Its amazing!

[hoary prawn]

Empty house or empty land shouldn’t be allowed to submit for house tour, maybe one way is to determine by the owner house plot values.

[sudden bay]

I guess I have a different view on what's submitted. Everyone wants the reactions so they can get a nameplate and some might be really new. When I see an empty lot I just smile and give them the "so cosy" reaction. The way the system is set up is the fault of S6. Also what's stunning to one person may not be stunning to another. I tend to like very minimalist plots and if it seems too cluttered I won't even tour it. I think some want these people that submit empty lots reported. Just move on to the next one. They aren't really hurting anyone.

[hearty phoenix]

This is not me trying to get votes but mine is a treehouse which doesn't count as a building and has low value. I think the same would be true of the pirate ship, train, dinosaur and others.

That's why I was thinking that if people got the same reactions from visiting that they wouldn't be incentivized to submit plots that they haven't worked on. It isn't the relative emptiness that is my issue, it's ones that people clearly haven't worked on at all. You can tell the ones that are by new players because of what furniture is on them or how big the plot is and I am supportive of those.

[sudden bay]

But really what does it matter what anyone's plot looks like? Everyone is individual and most people if they tour a house will react. It's the RNG for what plots get seen that is messed up and that is S6's fault.

[hearty phoenix]

I agree that it's the way the system is set-up that is the problem, not the people who are using the system.

[sudden bay]

I'm just going to get one of the ones you pay 100g for and wear that. I'll submit a plot each week and if I get votes I do and if not, shrugs..at this point I don't care lol

[hearty phoenix]

I've decided not to use the home reactions thread. I posted and 27 people said that they reacted to my plot. I spend an hour and a half touring those 27 plots. Then I realized that only 9 reacted to my plot. It isn't about the reactions for me, I worked hard and just wanted people to see it.

[sudden bay]

Yeah, same thing happened to me. People just reacted , but never went using your thread to get more votes.

[hearty phoenix]

I wish there was a way to leave comments like "I really liked how you used the gazebo" or things like that but I don't see any way to do that and prevent people from leaving mean comments.

[sudden bay]

You can do that in this thread if you submit your plot then people can comment. https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1267963034110922904

[hearty phoenix]

I have commented on the ones I visited that are there.

There seems to be low interest in that thread though. I saw amazing things and they had one or two comments or likes.

[hoary prawn]

House “Tour” should have at least something for people to see. if it’s only empty house or land must else change it to House “Visit”.

[sudden bay]

Even if they took out the empty plots the RNG is still messed up. They need to remove trending and make it all random.

[inner tide]

seems to me it depends on how many fish are in close vicinity to each other. I heard sb mention from 3 onward you get the cross texture. Not that I will dismantle all my fishdisplays....

[vapid wasp]

@wispy lance !!!!!!!!

[mossy mica]

I have areas where there’s just two fish, and it’s blacked out. Other areas where there’s also two fish, and it’s not blacked out. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Some fish are stand alone and are fine, and the other stand alone fish aren’t. It’s totally randomised, at least on my plots.

[hearty phoenix]

I have some that are blocked out sometimes but not other times.

[mossy mica]

I noticed that when you’re in grid mode, they’ll appear regularly if you hover over them.

As far as the House Tours, I haven’t submitted any of my plots because I want something done/close to it before I submit. Because yesterday was my first day back on the game in nearly a month, I’m still working out this new update.

I know there’s an Achievement for visiting plots, but is that the only way you get tickets is by visiting a TON of plots and reacting?

[hearty phoenix]

There are achievements that give you 50 tickets a week. One is for reacting on 5 plots and the other is visiting 15. There is also an achievement at the bottom of the list that gives you tickets for visiting a lot of plots.

[mossy mica]

Thanks! I just need to see which achievement gives you 50. They renamed all of the achievements with this patch update.

[hearty phoenix]

The housing ones are right at the top. They are 50 between them.

25 and 25.

The new names keep confusing me. I get them and I have no idea what I did.

[hearty phoenix]

I had a thought while I was touring random houses. What if instead of trending, they had an option to visit plots with under 10 reactions. That way we can help people get the minimum.

[loud axle]

I worry that would lead to a bunch of plots that are minimally decorated, or just completely empty.

They just need to get rid of the trending / recent tabs altogether. It should be totally random what plots you end up on.

You can already visit specific plots just to see them, we don't need the popularity contest where friends and neighborhoods are all rating each other while solo players are left in the dust.

[rare pine]

I feel like these plot tours are just the precursor to premium furniture.

My rationale is that these plot tours are the perfect vehicle to advertise premium furniture. I could even see them making another "Tish's Dream Home" or whatever it was called as a showcase, so people would know what the furniture looked like in game. Idk... the daybreak acquisition has me antsy about the future of monetization.

[loud axle]

Technically they already have with the vistas.

The way most companies do Battle Passes, it's not pay to play it's just play to earn rewards which I love. It'd basically be like the current achievement system except doing certain tasks would reward you with premium currency / skins / outfits which would be neat.

[hidden trail]

Technically technically they did with the chapaa stacking pillows from that coffee and cup gimmick sale

[sterile river]

Same; I am hoping it will be fixed, and all my tanks will be clean again.

[sterile river]

I could see this, like how Sims does themed expansion for pay. I would be ok with that if it was not much cost. Or would occasionally go on a great sale. Thats how I pick up many of my Steam games.

[toxic lotus]

If all the towels are bought at the black-market, what do the NPC's do after a shower? do they use a rug or are all of them illegal?

[drowsy zodiac]

Is anyone else's chat just attempt to reconnect for the past 6 minutes

[stable nacelle]

Sorry missclick on my board

[lyric night]

still weird that they we didn’t get a battlepass yet, every single f2p game has one nowadays, especially bcs it would help the game in creating an actual reason to login daily and actually play the game by doing the battlepass tasks, there would also be a possibility that they add a free outfit/glider/pet reward at max lvl so f2p players get cosmetics as well

well they probably wanted to expand the variety of cosmetics first I guess, so they can actually deliver a battlepass that offers a variety of cosmetic rewards

[teal gyro]

Mine is doing that too

[wanton steppe]

Hello Everyone,
I've figured out a way to fix the Flow Tree issues on plots. Growing Flow Trees on Display/Tour will not grow or seed while on THAT plot's tour.
BEFORE you put your plot on tour, You have to move your nursery Flow Trees and plant them on ANOTHER plot. They will grow and give seeds. I've made sure of this before posting this HELPFUL HINT!!
**Take note, if the tree is already on tour and you move it, it will not grow or seed. You must move your nursery trees BEFORE you put that plot on tour. Putting the nursery tree back on the Tour plot will not make it grow/seed. It HAS to be place on another plot to grow."
I hope I have helped everyone who has had issues.

[hallow idol]

I'm more concerned about the toilets....

[toxic lotus]

you're right...

wait

there are some toilets, but only at the black market

[hallow idol]

Plumbing is illegal

[toxic lotus]

O_O

[marble girder]

I just wanted to say how much I enjoy listening to the Jukeboxes play while I am building/decorating.

[lyric night]

same, It is so relaxing

[marble girder]

Yus, I am listening to the "Goodnight" one and it's just so nice.

[lyric night]

oh yeah goodnight is my fav of the ones we have available atm
but hopefully they give us tea time as well eventually, thats my favorite track overall but we have no jukebox for it

[marble girder]

I suspect like the "Morning in Bahari" track, we'll get it through some kind of login reward, or Twitch drop :O

But yes, I really love "Tea Time" time

[strong birch]

I heard the gold cap has changed, what is it now?

[glacial drift]

999k

[strong birch]

Oh nice! Thanks

[austere notch]

Hello, how often can you vote now? Sometimes the voting hooks are gone, then you should be able to vote every day or not? We have tested that the votes are still taken away and go to the new vote. So only weekly voting is possible, right? Or is it just bugged?

[ashen carbon]

the more i see players with outfit pieces that have idle animations the more i love it, but the more i wish that idle animations were their own slot. I'd love to have an idle animation that changed based on your personality type (water, fire, earth, air). The fire sigil on the Femme Fatale set is so dope, and i'd love to see it for other elements to show off our personalities!

[vagrant star]

Sounds like a fun idea! Personally, I find them a bit annoying/distracting/would get a problem if they were widespread, so I hope they'll let me disable them on my device eventually...

[violet spindle]

Don't talk to Jina, guys 🥲

[glacial drift]

it is weekly voting only. whatever the last thing you voted with will stick as the one that counts despite our emotes not showing after a relog.

[steady lily]

Hassian has finally warmed up to me! Lvl 4

[amber pike]

There needs to be a friends plots category too. Someone has probably mentioned this already but i would love to be able to easily look at my friends plots without having to painstakingly type them all in

[calm fiber]

Why are these white picket fences so hard to place correctly??? I have to take down ones I have placed so that they line up the right way. This is a pain in the butt

[sudden bay]

I still think it should be server based. Meaning you can tour/react to the ones on tour on your current server. Actually they could also keep the typing in the name of the plot you wish to see.

[amber pike]

Honestly having a similar setup to the already existing plot visit board just with the reactions thing. Would work well

[sudden bay]

Well it's been 24 hours since my last reaction so needless to say I'm probably not on the "trending" board. LOL I think it's sad that you have to use outside social media to promote a feature in the game itself.

[signal kayak]

yeah, i'm really curious about next week, when i don't do anything tour related (when the tours started i did a few people in the reactions which probably gave me some reactions)

[sudden bay]

I wish everyone would stop using it till S6 fixes it so it's fair for everyone. Right now I feel we are working around their messed up system so they never will fix it. Like the pebbled plunder accomplishment. I have my doubts they will ever fix that.

[loud axle]

That seems to be their marketing strategy, unfortunately.

It's like with the Twitch drops... Entice people with FOMO to make it appear like a ton of people are watching / playing your game so it spreads, when in reality most of those people are just alt-tabbed doing something else so they can get exclusive items.

[sudden bay]

Well someone mentioned a battlepass or premium furniture at $5-$20 each. I am not spending another dime on this game. When cosmetics become as expensive as fully released games it's time to move on.

[digital rose]

I don't know if you know, but if you use the blue board on the right, you can visit friends as long as they're also online.

[sudden bay]

I think they meant easier to visit and be able to rate your friends in the home tours

[digital rose]

Ah, gotcha.

[strong birch]

I got the froggy nameplate but how do I equip it? (Switch player)

[signal kayak]

• button to open menu, go to collections and zr all the way to nameplates

[strong birch]

Oooh thank you!

[amber pike]

yeah haha

[carmine flume]

Is there a better way of leveling up foraging besides solo tree chopping? I am at level 38 and it going to take me FOREVER to get to level 50 (60 points). I need to get to 980 to get the bonsai and I'm at 914, and even then I will be 6 point short of my goal.

[lyric night]

u "just" need 7 levels to get ur 70 missing medals, tree chopping is the fastest to lvl foraging, just pick up everything in between and deforest bahari

[carmine flume]

ok, let me go sharpen my blade. thanks!

[wise moat]

It feels exploitive. We shouldn’t have to promote the game for an objective within the game.

[signal kayak]

exactly. until they change things, i'm only going to upload my plot, in hopes that people will randomly come across it and in turn take some inspiration from it. i got the butterfly nameplate, and that's really the only one i care about. i would like to have the others for completionist sake, but currently that's not possible for smaller plots

[sudden bay]

Don't forget the weekly accomplishments. By this Sunday you should have the guild coins to buy the bonsai tree

Good luck getting the votes. If your lot never/rarely comes up in random or you aren't in trending no one will ever see your lot unless you promote it outside the game here on discord or FB. I shouldn't have to promote my lot outside the game to get an in-game reward.

[signal kayak]

just make the tiered nameplates where you have to give the reaction to get the reward. keep it where you have to do the whole 10/50/200 (heck make it higher if you want to idc) but make it so that you are giving the reaction that you believe the plot deserves not someone else telling you what to give. and for pete's sake, leave the dang reaction scores. no reason for them to be removed every week

[buoyant sinew]

after I spent the past 2 days actually decorating my plot in a hurry to get the nameplates, i realized getting the nameplate i wanted came down to begging for reactions. since then, i havent been able to play the game at all cuz im busy spamming discord and in game asking to exchange reactions.. i really just want to play palia again. im done after i get this wizard nameplate thats perfect for my characters style. id like the rest as well but not with the current system. the voting system should be how you truly feel about a plot, rather than no one actually even looking around your plot and just reacting to whatever you asked for and leaving. but at the very least, just dont reset the votes please. sorry for the rant, i just want to play palia again anyways, back to begging >.< ps i also hate how it makes you not like people, there are so many ppl reacting that they reacted but the #s are like half of what you actually got..

[sudden bay]

They also should have a reaction like "great start"! or "budding builder"! Not just wonderful reactions

[carmine flume]

Thanks! that helps a lot!

[mossy mica]

The nameplates are underwhelming to me. I don’t have one, but I can see when others do, and it just shows their name highlighted in the respective nameplate colour, with the symbol beside? It’s a “that’s all?” reaction from me.

Also, from reading various comments, when some of you use the term “vote/voting,” are you referring to “reacting” to a plot in the Home Tours thing?

Is there a limit to how many reactions you can give to others? I’ve seen people talking about it, and I’m so lost. If someone could break this whole thing down thoroughly, I’d greatly appreciate it.

[glacial drift]

Basically you can vote for every single player in the game ONCE per week. If you vote for them again with a different emote it will override the original for the new one and they will lose the old emote and gain the new one. Reacting, Emoting, and Voting are all the same thing. It’s the little chappa face you chose when you go to their tour, numbered 1-4.

Lot of folks will do a vote for vote and trade in order to get their numbers up to 200 for the third tier emote.

[hollow thistle]

Just wondering but is it still worth talking to the villagers if you manage to max our their friendship level?

[sudden bay]

Unless you plan on romancing them then no.

[mossy mica]

Thank you so much for this explanation. The way everyone else said it made it seem like one vote TOTAL, but then I thought “that doesn’t make any sense.” Thanks again for being clear!

[glacial drift]

No problem! You can vote on as many people as you can stomach!

[mossy mica]

So far, I’ve visited 3-4 plots. 🤣 Nothing wild. It’ll probably be a couple weeks before I can fully play the game again for hours on end.

[solid forge]

Looking for someone to complete the party achievement and/or the master social chef achievement with ❤️❤️

[olive carbon]

Same game name as here? I'll add you!

[solid forge]

Yes!

[fossil chasm]

RIGHT. gotta replace the entire fence to make one change to it.

[calm fiber]

Exactly! It's frustrating as all get out.

[signal kayak]

let's not forget the when you don't have enough to cover the area you want and have to try to get things to line up properly

[clever tundra]

I wish I can make a button in Palia and romance my partner by giving it to him like being able to marry another player in sdv

[flint wolf]

Can anyone direct me to where there's examples of the Housewarming nameplates? I wanted to buy one from the shop but am nervous I'll buy one I don't like or something... :c

[lyric night]

u can look at all nameplates in ur collection (L on Pc, switch + -> collection)

[flint wolf]

You're an angel, thank you!

[south cosmos]

Will they ever add like more garden plot? And maybe more crops for more recipes?

[bright ledge]

more crop eventually
likely not more soils

[south cosmos]

Noo I need a field of crops

[bright ledge]

then they lower price likely tho

decor crops would be nice

[rare fractal]

same, the limit on garden plots in rustraiting, and plantable flowers too, I reached the limit and I still want to plant more lol.

[finite raft]

Did they "fix" the floating items glitch? I can't seem to get it to work anymore

[umbral lynx]

Floating still works but maybe the method you are using is different now

[finite raft]

the method I was using was the gourmet dessert bowl. I can remove the bowl but not what was underneath it

[carmine flume]

Moved question to game play help

[plush swift]

Is there any clothing in game I can unlock outside of the premium shop? My heart yearns for a bunk outfit or a suit or something.

[signal kayak]

nope, and there's no plans/never going to be free clothing outside of the original start up clothing

[plush swift]

Man

[shell mango]

I wish there was an option to turn off the idle animations bc to me they're an eyesore and they've stopped me from purchasing outfits before bc I don't want the idle animations playing over and over.

[tardy dew]

imagine having a few random outfit sets that could be "made" at your plot 👀 that would be so gooooood. They could utilize gemstones as special ingredients, idk

[rare pine]

!feedback

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[tardy dew]

Oh! TY!!!

[rare pine]

Logged into the game and...

Restarting didn't work but fast travelling to my plot did.

[sly holly]

I hope more soil they add more soil one day

[main hornet]

Where can I find a community? ❤️ ❤️

[olive carbon]

You can try #1267631845013721158 or #1135682474324807681 or make your own! There's a limit of 25 per community though so it can sometimes be tough to find one with open spots. Good luck!

[old dirge]

we know we're getting lettuce for sure

[sturdy quarry]

Really don't need to take away the reaction points...they should roll over and decrease the number of votes that are needed! I am sure this has been posted by others.

[wary sorrel]

Do ppl dc more after the update? already crash 3 times during 10min o.o

[wary sorrel]

Ye..they just post it xD makes sense

[polar pelican]

been messing with a farm layout for awhile, but this is the closest i can get to 100% water + harvest boost without fertilizer and also getting some quality apples and blueberries in there. Anyone got any feedback on how i could make this better?

[flint igloo]

Not me, I just plant mine to look nice

[placid plaza]

I think you need to check how much soil (ie: an entire plot of soil - all 9 squares) for one apple tree. They can't be grown in any other way that I know of.

[polar pelican]

naw i think that one stray potato in the apple 3x3 is cuz i hovered a potato over that plot when i was taking the screenshot LOL

[placid plaza]

👍

[carmine gyro]

Finally seeing news on the rumoured Elderwoods

Next patch? The blog mentions not until 2025

[vagrant star]

I'm looking forward to it, whenever it'll come :-)

[carmine gyro]

Rest assured that we’re building towards these larger beats, such as the series of areas planned for Elderwood’s rollout.

So sub areas before the big one look like they will be coming

[rare pine]

The feral outfit actually looks kinda good?

[carmine gyro]

Also liked how they addressed the masculine outfit shortage. Although i would've prefered if they sorta gave outfits masucline and feminine versions for all body types.

[rare pine]

It has Monster Hunter vibes that I dig.

Also, does the colour palette thing mean we're getting more colours?

[sudden bay]

With all the bugs they released in the last update they were very smart to put out a Dev blog now.

[sudden bay]

Hopefully the colors aren't "sold separately" LOL

[rare pine]

😂

[olive carbon]

It might just be the "concept art" stage of drawing, like how they said the included art of the elderwoods was as well

[rare pine]

Hopes sucessfully dashed

[carmine gyro]

the colours hopefully not, but the slightly variating patterns will.

[olive carbon]

well it could still be true! And I'll keep hoping for that with you either way

[steady lily]

A new map??? Youre kidding

[sudden bay]

Well, not till next year

[carmine gyro]

It's gonna be a slow roll over the next few months and patches

[wise moat]

Alright yall I need a good summary of the sneak peek

Kindly 🙏

[sudden bay]

There is another game coming out at the end of 2024 that I'm highly interested in so I can wait for elderwoods.

[rare pine]

In summary: Collectable potato plushies, some plot limits raised, Elderwoods sneak peek (release early 2025), more masculine outfits, more story quests. ETA: save for the elderwoods, they didn't say WHEN we'll get these things. Just that they're on the docket.

[past timber]

blog didn't tell us much

[sudden bay]

Don't forget player trading

[steady lily]

Honestly, its good that it tells us at least something! I hope they keep it up

[sudden bay]

Really? I thought they revealed a lot.

[wise moat]

POGGERS thank you!!

[vagrant star]

What are you all most excited for? More masculine outfits and Elderwoods, for me :-)

[hollow crescent]

new quests!

[rare pine]

Story.

[carmine gyro]

• Increasing and visible Decor and Build limits
• Searchable workstations and storage
• Potato Pods plushie series
  Future Updates
• Trading system
• Masculine outfits
• Elderwoods (2025)
• Vague new gameplay features, in-game events, experimental content, quality-of-life improvements, new areas, and new quests

[wind nymph]

Yea!!! Elderwood is coming!! I know it won't be till 2025 but I'm soo excited!!!

[raven orbit]

I'm excited for trading, really.

[wise moat]

Story for me too, but with a new map, new creatures, animals and characters perhaps?

[rare pine]

I'm excited for more story

[steady lily]

I am pleased with the post. People who've been playing longer than me might still be dissatisfied, understandably, but I think it's a good post nonetheless

[wise moat]

Thank you 🙏

[raven orbit]

I'm also excited for more story as well, but trading is desperately needed so I can actually play the main point of the game

[rare pine]

I think it's okay. Definitely better than the radio silence we've been suffering with for a while

I think the potato pods being collectable is a good segway into a trading system tbh

[past timber]

the decor limit thing didn't give any promises, just that they're trying to find a solution but it's difficult

[sudden bay]

But they did raise the building block limit and flower limit which everyone asked for

[rare pine]

They game isn't optimized to handle more than what we currently have. So they have to work on that before they can raise the overall 3k limit.

[sly mortar]

The outfit concept art looks like one of the ideas for a hunters outfit i had a while back and i am soooooooo excited to see what else they do

[vagrant star]

Yes!

[past timber]

I hit the 3000 limit a few days ago. Had to demolish a bunch of things i'd spent ages building. Took the joy out of decorating for me

[raven orbit]

I would like to see them finally deliver on a text slider though. It was teased back in March, and hopefully fix the brightness so it functions correctly instead of adjusting gamma as well /gen

[sudden bay]

I have my decorating on several plots so I haven't run into limits yet.

[sly mortar]

Im soooooooo normal about the palia outfits,,, so normal,,

[past timber]

They didn't say much about the next patch. I was hoping they would confirm the return of the market

[rare pine]

They teased it, the Maji Market specifically

[sudden bay]

They won't totally commit till they release it. That way if something goes wrong it won't cause chaos.

[sly mortar]

Ive been hoping for a maji market, there’s furniture i missed and im a collector

And i need the pheonix plush

[sudden bay]

I think the blog was good. They did reveal quite a bit so we know things are coming. I'd much rather wait for them to get it perfect than have them release updates like the last one with all the bugs.

[sly mortar]

Same

Im happy to wait and theyre very good and consistent w updates every month. Idm an occasional quality of life/less but quality update

[warm python]

Did they say anything about changing the nameplate system?

[sudden bay]

eh, maybe sorta possibly

[raven orbit]

Nope :/

[warm python]

Or...anything about accessibility for that matter

[raven orbit]

Nothing about accessibility either

[warm python]

[rare pine]

They said something about a new featuring system but that's it

[raven orbit]

They also teased a trading system eventually (which admittedly I am worried about just based on the track record of things being teased vs when/if they actually get released and function correctly on release) /gen

[warm python]

I'm very very curious on how that's gonna work

And also very curious as to what all the people I've seen saying trading would ruin the game have to say about it

[raven orbit]

I'm hoping that they're making sure it functions in a way that will allow Disabled players to get materials from skills we can't engage with, but part of me thinks it won't and will function just like the request system /gen

[warm python]

Mmhmm

[sly mortar]

Might be interesting if we could trade with other players for items of equal value or with gold

[loud axle]

Hopefully not gold, that leads to a multitude of problems. Item to item trading is the best way to go for sure.

[raven orbit]

As long as it allows us to trade for things we've not gotten I'm happy. I just want a way to get the fish required for quests and bundles

[sudden bay]

They probably won't allow quest items to be traded.

What they could do is offer several options for a bundle or quest

[raven orbit]

I don't mean specifically quest items, I mean the regularly obtainable items needed for quests - like how some quests require you to get a certain (in the normal lootpool) fish

[vagrant star]

Oh, that'd be amazing!!!

[pearl wave]

Dev blog is all we want too seriously, thank you from the bottom of our hearts

[thick wagon]

I hope we get some crates and sacks of fruits veggies there already in the underground so they wouldn't be hard to add in for players

[untold sluice]

That dev blog...yikes.

Happy to see a date to anticipate the next thing we should care about, Elderwoods.

It's just sad to see that between now and 2025 they've got pretty much nothing up their sleeves except a Maji Market redux which is already now been redux'd into Lunar New Year...so it's just a shop that makes me play hotpot over and over again.

Also saying "we hear you, you guys aren't getting enough Masculine clothing" and then showcasing a dude dressed in a dead animal as the only solution prepared is just crazy to me.

Like guys I just want basic profession outfits that aren't super gender'd to the dollhouse style they do for women. I just want thinks a Kilima resident would wear and not some random assortment of over the top random outfit stuff that have literally nothing to do with the place I'm in.

Why would we wear a dead animal on us? The dead animal in the concept art isn't even one we kill!? There are no foxes or Raccoons in this game

[dire kraken]

I think the outfit is quite cool

[thick wagon]

I mean...we just got sneak peaks there could be a wolf mob added but I think they should of done a muujin instead of the wolf

[untold sluice]

I just don't think that's what guys were asking for, I think they were just asking for more cloths that fit into a general use mix and match setup...that fur set only really works with itself

[untold sluice]

A dire wolf or something larger would be cool.

But if pets are any indicator they want to reuse the same animation rig as many times as possible

[thick wagon]

There could also be more male costumes and we only got to see one

They normally do three

[untold sluice]

Im just saying sharing that there is a male outfit in the future doesn't address the problem that we get like 5 hyper-femm outfits per 1 regular genderless outfit...and I wouldn't even say that wolf outfit isnt specifically masc, the girl in Mononoke wore that

And I don't care about getting specifically masc outfits Im just tired of most outfits not even working on my character's body

[raven orbit]

The outfit does look cool, I don't know how I feel about it being the first thing they think of when people ask for more masc clothing though - I'm hoping they have some more that they just aren't showing though and that they get in the swing of not just releasing only fem-aligned outfits

[thick wagon]

I do think they should of just done both outfits variants male and female and mix and match and not one or another

[untold sluice]

They kinda did this with the winter outfit with a masc one that's just a big shirt and then a femm one with a more molded undercoat.

I wish they'd do it for profession outfits in general...instead we've just got one dollhouse farmer set

[thick wagon]

Id loooove profession outfits

I also wish they redo there prices and not make them so expensive :/

[spark pawn]

I think it would have gotten their point across better if they wrote more about how they are planning on implementing more male outfits in the future and also here is a sneak peek of just one of them. Cause it does kinda sounds like it’s just this wolf one the way it’s written right now.

[wise moat]

They did say new quest lines, QOL changes and events between now and the elderwood release

[dire kraken]

A general mix and match outfit is always a good idea and they release that regularly as a cheaper option. I think the shown one is intended to show a masculine premium outfit though, since the recent premium outfits were all feminine. Kinda like “we hear you guys we swear”!

[thick wagon]

Or give us more premium coins

[raven orbit]

sad thing is, they used to be more expensive

[untold sluice]

The only thing I'd really pay money for at this point is regular clothing...or profession theme'd outfits that I'd wear doing the things I do in the game.

Last time I bought an outfit was that new DnD outfit which I thought I could wear some parts but then found out the only part I actually liked had the effect attached to it and I hate the idea of dice floating around me...so random

[thick wagon]

add back items seperently from clothing please I want some of these cute backpacks like the herbalist satchel but I can't wear that if I'm using the fungi set

[untold sluice]

If it's a premium outfit that means that wolf outfit is going to have some floating object around it or glow for no reason...I'm not exactly hype for that

[thick wagon]

Not necessarily

[untold sluice]

Effects should also be a separate slot, they literally never have anything to do with the outfit

[warm kettle]

I couldn’t agree more

[untold sluice]

It's not like backpacks where they need to match the mesh of the other objects in the outfit...effects literally just float around nothing

[raven orbit]

they need a toggle for the effects in general, they're not accessible at all to see

[untold sluice]

Just wait, every time you stop for some reason your character will howl or something ridiculous because you wore a chestpiece

[warm kettle]

The effects are pretty annoying a toggle would be a game changer

[untold sluice]

yeah, or just a button that turns them off and on accessible through shortcut

[thick wagon]

Yaa naw

[warm kettle]

I would also like a return button for if you accidentally buy an outfit you don’t want… I bought an outfit and it’s really glitchy and I’m kind of annoyed about itb

[thick wagon]

I wish we could buy pieces of outfits like I still want the antlers from soothsayer but not everything els

[warm kettle]

Fr

[raven orbit]

there is a way to request a refund but idk how

[untold sluice]

I got a return on the Traveler's outfit because they didn't used to display pieces amounts and I thought it was more than just a one piece top/bottom

[untold sluice]

Yeah, they'd make a lot more money that way because the pieces could be like 400 individually or something premium...and having more small purchases helps get people to make any purchase at all

[warm kettle]

Ahh, how did you do that? I have the timely tailor I think? And it’s not anchored correctly so when I jump it stretches across my screen 💀

[wise moat]

It’s sad that the first thing I thought of when you said traveler was Destiny 2 😭

[untold sluice]

I think it was their support ticket on their website

[narrow narwhal]

There will be more.

[warm kettle]

Okay I will check it out, thank you!

[dire kraken]

Tbh I don’t get why they don’t allow this. Even when I contacted support they said they don’t usually allow refunds, so it’s a “one time only” refund. I spent my money, don’t i get to decide how to spend it?? If I’m not satisfied with an outfit and how it looks in the world (bc the visuals in the closet and world are sooo different for some reason) we should be allowed to get a refund.

[untold sluice]

I imagine it being glitchy could get you a refund but they may just ask for you to wait for an upcoming fix

[warm kettle]

Fr

[raven orbit]

very exciting! are there any updates on accessibility?

[untold sluice]

There needs to be a like 5 minute return window

[warm kettle]

I bought it months ago 😭😭😭 I was expecting it to be patched after one or two updates

[untold sluice]

Well that'll help your case

[thick wagon]

^

[untold sluice]

Yeah, that's my issue,

Like give us a plan...or some kind of statement that you want to focus on more genderless outfits that include more of a larger group of people. Maybe I'm just not seeing their sales sheet and the hyper-femm stuff way outsells regular cloths but they also put way less effort into anything genderless

And the weirdest thing is that for the most part "masculine" clothing is seen as genderless more of the time

Whereas most of these outfits are straight up bra based outfits specifically for femm bodies or have a corset that again only makes sense if you have a femm body.

And when they do give us a "masculine" outfit it's incredibly over the top or doesn't even have the key pieces that would make the outfit make sense...like a smoking jacket without a pipe prop?

[rare pine]

The wolf outfit reminds of Monster Hunter. That's my main draw to it.

[untold sluice]

I get why they think it's an example, but imo, across fiction media woman and men all be wearing dead animal heads as hats...but again part of my point is just that femm bodies are more free to wear masc outfits and it still can look femm with a few twists...not really the case for any of the femm outfits they are adding...no way to make a top meant for a femm chest look masc

[raven orbit]

I would be concerned if they were judging not releasing more masc styles based on current sales just because the fem stuff is, objectively, at a higher advantage than the masc stuff just based on how little of the masc-presenting clothes there actually is

[rare pine]

That's true. At least they acknowledged that the outfit leaned more androgynous and I hope the future ones are more masc-presenting.

[untold sluice]

Like if you were a guy who cared about outfits in this game you'd just not actually be able to spend money (me)

[untold sluice]

I just care more about genderless than masc but when they make outfits specifically for a femm chest it's over and that's like 3 out of 4 outfits have specifically a bra/chest element or dainty frills

[rare pine]

I prefer more masc/androgynous looks so I get where you're coming from

[untold sluice]

Like they gave us the vampire outfit and it was covered in frills

Which I mean, camp but also it was ugly

[rare pine]

Oh I hate all the frills and bows and petals an whatnot. Nothing against anyone personally if that's their vibe ofc.

[untold sluice]

I just wish we'd get the normal base version of the thing and they can do another variant of that outfit later with more frills and stuff for an extra buck

[pearl wave]

did u guys see what wizardcrab said?

[untold sluice]

Like we can't just get normal overalls we got a cutesty one with doll dress detailing. Can't just get an angel or a druid outfit that works for anyone who wants to look that way...has to have a bra

[rare pine]

Yeah, that's why I said I hoped the future ones were more masc.

[untold sluice]

Like my suggested shop right now in game, of the first 9 outfits 1 of them is wearable on a masc body

Every single other one is a top meant for femm chest

[pearl wave]

i feel that, gotta balance the outfit for all genders

[untold sluice]

I can only wear one of these and it has a random dice effect I can't even get rid of

All of them have breast tops either as just a bra or a corset that specifically is shaped to a femm body except one that has a sweater that makes it genderless

[pearl wave]

I noticed that they had to buy the whole set and then change the top and bottom (which is understandable)

hence the point of buying separate outfits you guys bought up

[untold sluice]

Yeah, ideally the best way to go about it is allow us to buy the accessories on outfits for a higher premium, but even then these outfits aren't offering masc players much. The only add I would get is maybe the halo, the witch hate which could work for a wizard outfit, and the pirate hat.

my next 9 outfits on my shop only 3 of 9 are genderless and none I'd call "masc" except MAYBE the weird Dune one that has no business being in the game

[rare pine]

TF2 did/does really well with their hats. That game fostered my love of silly hats.

[untold sluice]

I feel like they'd do a lot better if they focused down accessories.

Hats, face items like more glasses options or makeup, etc.

If shoes could be separated as well as gloves as long as the outfit didn't overlap on that mesh would also be huge

[quartz sedge]

How are the trending tour plots picked?

[violet tendon]

Anyone else keep getting sever is lost?

[untold sluice]

seems totally random, my plot also never gets above like 10 visitors and I don't think it's a bad plot but maybe Im just biased but when I show people the plot they always gush about how good it is

[drowsy zodiac]

Do we know if the elderwood image from the dev update is a wall paper i can apply somewhere? XD

[untold sluice]

Maybe you can request it but it seems like a small gif

[amber turret]

Any daybreakers?

[hard latch]

Ikr it’s too gorgeous not to be one. I thought it was one too until I saw the waterfall moving

[shut belfry]

yo when are they gonna fix the fish? im tired of this gray wall since the last update

[hard latch]

I know. My casino wall of fish doesn’t look pretty anymore

[shut belfry]

like i spent hours placing fish in my little aquarium building it's where i'd sit when i finished farming, but now it's just a big ol gray room haha

[tribal jacinth]

Thats a really nice blog post but " A lot of thought and effort goes into each individual patch " should be edited to individual premium outfit. (jokes aside the new zone preview gif looks beautiful)

[drowsy zodiac]

well i have wallpaper engine so my wallpapers move

[bright ledge]

u can do this /save wallpaper use wallpaper engine

[mighty pumice]

The strangest thing just happened, I logged back in after my game crashed and then I got the message three plots purchased? And I got the gazebo? But I never purchased it and I still have all my money?

[wispy lance]

Lucky happy bug?

[drowsy zodiac]

Congrats you won 🎊🎉🎊 jk idk but thats a fun bug

[celest maple]

I just came back to play after like 6 months maybe 7. Why there’s like 2000 new premium outfits on the store but no new characters or any new map (they just give as a pic about a new map that IS coming) I’m a little bit disappointed :c I love the game but idk I was hoping to have a lot more when I come back

[bright ledge]

they had a huge layoff and then got bought by daybreak gamecompany

[untold sluice]

Honestly, Elderwoods was lower on my list than Farming/Husbandry or actual events and not just Maji Market with or without Lunar New Year

Especially more mini-games...Im sorry they murdered hotpot by making it so grindy

Content lasts a lot longer when you bounce between activities but the hotpot update made the only thing to do was play hotpot until you couldn't and then do something till you could play hotpot again

[jolly idol]

Yeah I thought we’d get new skills first, but they did say there’s big & small updates to come before then, so who knows

[untold sluice]

I feel like they would have teased something like that, although Elderwoods may be a showcase for some skills, like that staff that may involve combat or something...but we already have 'combat'...it's called bow and arrow.

So it's just a new way to do what we were already doing and not really a full new loop in the way something like farming would be

[jolly idol]

Exactly, thats my guess. Staff of doom would work well there

[wispy lance]

Or magic

[untold sluice]

Id imagine it'll do magic but they'll have Sifuu introduce sword/board type combat as well

Once we have like a healthbar and are fighting monsters like in Stardew they can just open the floodgates for how you do that at once whether by bow and arrow, magic, or melee but maybe some monsters just require certain skills to hurt at all

[jolly idol]

I’m pretty excited for the trading. I hope they let us do our own shop stalls, I’ve sent them like 4 messages about it lol

[bright ledge]

i hope we get chapaas that hunt you lol

[jolly idol]

Ooh evil chapaas

[untold sluice]

I'd expect minimum viable, and also very limited on what you can trade. Like I'm 100% betting we can't trade anything we'd actually want to trade for

It'll just be like "trade your fish for their logs"

[celest maple]

So sad :(( the npc mechanic is actually fun, but I can notice they have focus totally on outfits and premiums stuff to sell, and no do the game more funny or better for us, I mean, they do “stuff”, but you guys know what I mean

[tribal jacinth]

I dont really get why they hype up Maji Market likes its some kind of amazing creation that everyone loves

[untold sluice]

I do imagine a lot of npc plot is tied to things that get introduced through Elderwoods, such as magic or combat or any events related to those systems.

I do feel like Elderwoods and the systems it introduces may be a massive bottleneck for their pipeline

[past timber]

It's sad there was no mention of ranching. Elderwood sometime in 2025 doesn't make me want to play everyday.

[untold sluice]

Especially if its not anything new. The September Maji was terrible, Chapaa Chase that didn't get fixed till like the last week (which already isn't a fun minigame) and otherwise just a shop with exceedingly overpriced goods that many of which have more to do with spring than fall

[jolly idol]

Because theres always a new influx of Palia s that haven’t experienced it. But yeah I want something new….

[ebon pewter]

even though it can be so impractical, I still love MMOs that have placeable player shops as a method of player market. Either ones you can place and leave, or maybe you have to stand there. (Standing somewhere AFK for a long time wouldn't work well on Switch though.) I understand why in the genre those are seen as a pretty dated mechanic, but it's just SO charming and immersive.

[celest maple]

I hope with this new map they give us new npc’s cause they have only lunch 1 since the game came out 💀💀

[shell mango]

I would be ok with even more fem outfits if they at least looked like smth that you would wear every day in the world of Palia. But I usually prefer genderless and masc outfits too.

[untold sluice]

Yeah, for me the big ticket item is more plot gameplay loops like farming and ranching and more crafter loops that produce more good types. I didn't play 1000 hours of Stardew or Travelers rest because of the combat or the new locations...I played because I wanted my farm to be the best it could be and the loop to get there took lots of time and effort

[tribal jacinth]

the little bunny cakes was probably the best thing that came from it

[ebon pewter]

it certainly is in my circles. Most of my friends got so excited and hyped about how fun hot pot was during the market

[untold sluice]

I just want a series of genderless profession outfits that look just like regular profession outfits with no frills and no cutesy stuff on them to make them more "attractive"...

Like stop. I just want storebought fishing waders with a yellow raincoat and hat. It doesn't need to be somehow for a femm body...no, woman wear t-shirts and waders and rubber raincloths to do those jobs because they are ideal for those jobs

[jolly idol]

Yesssss, I loved it so much in Ragnarok, and playing ACNH & this & Sims made me realize how much cooler we could have these things be

[tribal jacinth]

It's good they can find hype around it but for me it does not feel as special as the npcs make it out to be

[untold sluice]

Im deeply tired of the angel outfits and the fairy princess outfits when this universe literally has never mentioned anything about those things existing.

We got a RIDICULOUS Sailor Moon plug for what? In what world does that have to do with Kilima? This isn't Fornite they aren't getting paid for Sailor Moon merch peddling

Are Mermaids real or are we just ridiculous random people running around from other realities? It's so goofy

[untold sluice]

Well the problem is the Market gives you a way to throw all your money away and no way to earn new money

[shell mango]

I have the monk outfit on bc it seems like smth a character living in the world would actually wear but other stuff meanwhile is lacking

[ebon pewter]

Ragnarok might be the best example honestly, how it was tied to the merchant job! Both a great example of it being impractical, inconvenient, and really immersive 😂

[untold sluice]

Like honestly, the hotdog outfit makes way more sense than half the premium costumes

Like I could imagine Kenli making Kenyatta wear a hotdog costume at a summer event or Niao being a himbo in it...but a mermaid costume with water effects and floating hair? Like what

At least the fire witch could work if we get fire magic to hurl at enemies

[shell mango]

And even the stuff that's there and supposed to represent a profession looks off. For example compare the farming outfit in the premium store compared to what Badruu has on. It looks like a themed farming outfit VS an actual farming outfit

[ebon pewter]

I'm pretty lukewarm about any limited-time event in the game that generates FOMO, but it has been by far the most interesting and engaging seasonal event in the game. I liked some of the quests in the Christmas event but it's nothing compared to the whole extra area, minigames, and quest lines for the maji markets.

[untold sluice]

Or maybe the Order has a ninja assassin subsection

[untold sluice]

Exactly, the farming outfit we can buy looks like it just came out of a dollhouse outfit box. Pristine, no dirt, cutsey features.

I want just some overalls and maybe the ability to swap the t-shirt under it to some other generic top or maybe even just a dirty farmers button-up like a flannel pattern or something

[jolly idol]

Yeah, to me it feels like an anxiety thing, like go big & flashy or people wont spend, but I’ve bought a lot of the cuter non flashy outfits. I think we could really increase the quality of the casual outfits, just let modders do it if you don’t wanna 🤪

[shell mango]

What kind of farmer is dressed like this?

[untold sluice]

Like I just want some overalls that don't look like a child is wearing them

[bright ledge]

sims or icarus farmers xd

[untold sluice]

Or cloths that at all look as dirty as I'd be doing the job

[shell mango]

I just wish we got to talk to a dev or smth bc idk how to get the message across that I want outfits that look like I belong in the world and am not just some fashion diva

[untold sluice]

They added Hodari's mining jacket and then made it some gamer outfit that looked ridiculous. S6 why can I not be dirty!? Like the Druid outfit isn't even dirty...DRUID...which is also femm only

[jolly idol]

Send them message through the website. I do whenever I have an idea

[shell mango]

Even the future hunting outfit that we're getting that was teased recently looks just so themed and not practical

[untold sluice]

It looks like a gimmick. Just giving me a regular hunting outfit.

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/031/902/701/large/adriana-jp-acv-hunteroutfit-adrianajimenez-02.jpg?1604937089

[ebon pewter]

yeah immersiveness isn't really a goal for most of the cash shop outfits overall. It's not a failure if they were never going for that to begin with.

I'm sorta glad that the ones I like, the ones I can actually see my homesteader character wearing, are also the cheaper ones though 😂 In some games I might like to be a glittery fairy moose, but not in Palia.

[shell mango]

I have I don't think they get the message. This is smth that's more properly explained through directly talking to someone and like comparing stuff (like for example the farming outfit I showed with Badruu's outfit)

[tribal jacinth]

mhm, its just weird that they use to flex talent in the Palia team like ex wow devs but non of that talent has really shown it self when it comes to making a world or the event feel like its special when the npcs treat it as such, maybe I just focus on lore way to much with these things

[untold sluice]

WoW makes some outlandish outfits but they at least make sense for their world

but a lot of the outfits feel more out of like...Korean mmos where it's less about fitting into the world and more about fitting into subcultures exterior to that world like furries and weebs and ninjas and so on...which is fine...in moderation.

But we don't have like real world outfits to build out Kilima yet

Like if I want to show I'm a farmer...I have 1 outfit to do so and that's literally it. If Im mainly a fisherman? Can't even tell anyone there is zero fishing outfits

[ebon pewter]

I don't see what the issue is? This absolutely reads as a fantasy farmer to me.

A more realistic farming outfit would be like, regular work jeans without any details, and a t shirt without any accessories besides maybe a hat. Is that the sort of thing you would want?

[untold sluice]

You mean what Badruu literally wears?

All the NPCs look like normal people and we have to look like high fantasy made up characters

[ebon pewter]

That's not the outfit I described, no

[tribal jacinth]

yeah i see what you mean, I actually prefer the cheaper cosmetic looks its pretty close to what I think people in Palia would wear ( not the hotdog one )

[untold sluice]

https://palia.wiki.gg/images/thumb/d/dc/Badruu.png/600px-Badruu.png

That's just overalls with almost no details, dirty boots, and a dirty shirt with 1 necklace (which necklace would be dope as a slot item)

Also I'd kill for a hat like that

For some reason the only straw hat we are allowed to have has a fruitbasket with birds on top

[shell mango]

I want to look like a farmer of the world Palia. We have multiple people who are farmers in the world that have realistic outfits.

[untold sluice]

Also the farmer outfit we got has zero dirt on it as if we don't even do the job

[ebon pewter]

yeah that's fair. Most of the outfits that match the simpler, less extravagent aesthetic are just the free default outfits, and the outfits that cost money are more extravagent.

[warm python]

Agreed on that it'd be nice to have more outfits that felt more like... Outfits than costumes. Because opening up the cash shop feels like walking into a Spirit Halloween

[shell mango]

Can they pander to the subculture of people that like the lore and stuff 😭

[tribal jacinth]

Some higher cosmetics that has that magic effect works in Palia to but I think those outfits should at least come with a side quest that unlock the magic effect with a lore reason, like hunting for a fancy gem stone

[untold sluice]

Imagine pandering to the subculture of people that want to live in Kilima and not in Sailor Moon

[ebon pewter]

it's still not "literally" the outfit I described, but it's not too far off from the vibe. Just still not something most IRL farmers would wear, Badruu's outfit still reads like a fantasy of what a farmer looks like. At least compared to modern fashions

[warm python]

Imagine a world... Where you there were simple, lore adhering, cozy lil outfits you could earn or craft... And the fancy stuff would be cash shop

[ebon pewter]

yeah "costumes" is a good framing

[untold sluice]

TBF, it's not a modern world, as far as we know. Although maybe the Grimalkin get Magicpunk somewhere or something? No idea.

So having some kind of medieval exagerated style is fine with me. I just think if anything the outfit in the shop looks too clean which is the main problem

[worldly tulip]

so... you guys... AREN'T excited... about elderwood? 🥺 🥺 👉 👈

[untold sluice]

Depends what is in it and how much they dripfeed of it and over how long

[worldly tulip]

well, the they is me, i'm they, it's gonna be exciting. at least i think so and i've just been running around the internal dev version of it for weeks

also very excited about the story that's gonna be attached to it

[tribal jacinth]

yummmy

[worldly tulip]

i've been in my little cave cooking up treats and surprises for everyone. the Story Gremlin

[warm python]

Elderwood can be neat and more story is A++++, I did enjoy the lore of the game! It's just other stuff we still have Concerns about! but delicious story treats are good o7

[worldly tulip]

as for the lore on cosmetics... i can say on good authority that some of the npcs just assume humans are eccentric and yes that includes the people in hot dogs. also magic exists in world including more than what you've seen within the existing maps/npcs

[shell mango]

This would be crazy....

[thin elbow]

can we ever expect dyes? so we can color the outfits how we like? make them more fitting to palia rather than looking like neon flamingos?

[shell mango]

Where is the represenation for the non eccentric humans

[worldly tulip]

i simply control the lore, i do not control the pretty outfits. just wanted to give a little info that, at the very least, no one has proposed something in cosmetics that would break the lore of the game.

[ebon pewter]

are you telling me that pastry chefs DON'T traditionally wear a large hat shaped like a donut? 😂

[worldly tulip]

and that magic is actually a p big/important part of the story and will get bigger! kilima just is a bit more, um... rural.

[wispy lance]

I wonder if the lore will have real dragons, because we got the dragon pets 💜

[worldly tulip]

the majiri's god, maji, is a dragon!

[wispy lance]

Except him 😅

[tribal jacinth]

Yeah, but I still think it would be cool if some of those magic cosmetics had a reason in text on why it has magic, or has a special quest like wow does it with some of its stuff

[wispy lance]

I meant if we will find in the world kind of dragons

[thin elbow]

didnt that already sort of happen with the sailor moon outfit though? it has no link or relevance to the palia world...

[worldly tulip]

drakes aren't dragons, there are a lot of different levels/tiers to what makes something a dragon, or just a lil lizard, or something in between, etc.

[ebon pewter]

there's literally so many outfits that aren't eccentric, just simple and fashionable. Do you just not like any of them?

[warm python]

Wait so like, Sailor Moon-esque and mermaid costumes with flashy effects are things people in the world of Palia go out wearing? Just clarifying to make sure I'm not reading wrong lol

[ebon pewter]

oh wait that framing might have been a joke I didn't understand

[worldly tulip]

there is an item directly in the main storyline quest that ties into that exact theme. magical girls isn't a concept unique to sailor moon, it's actually a huge and beloved genre

[worldly tulip]

more that seeing them in world wouldn't be the same as seeing someone IRL wear something with magic effects/a literal breathing dragon on their shoulders.

one is, like... possible within the bounds of the world, and one is... very much impossible within the bounds of a world.

[distant mason]

anyone else noticing invulnerable chapaas today? specifically when they’re walking—I’ll hit them and it’ll deal no damage nor spook them.

it’s been happening with sernuk but it’s every other chapaa in Kilima today lol

[shell mango]

I do but we come to another issue here with the outfits. They look very different to what the villagers are wearing. They tend to have like 3 colors and that's it. Meanwhile villager outfits are complex and for example the shoes are not the exact same color as the pants, shirt and hat.

[worldly tulip]

i think a hot dog man is gonna stand out regardless of the worldbuilding setting tho.

[thin elbow]

"magical girls" right...so what about them dudes?

[torpid pollen]

i just want outfits that tie into the world lore and settings. why is that such a bad thing to ask for

[untold sluice]

I do wonder if some of these outfits will get used for generic npcs later like maybe we eventually get a map with a holy shrine with people walking around in something like this.

[worldly tulip]

there are a lot of fun riffs and spins on "mahou shoujo/magical girl" genre that include dudes. even in the og ones dudes were just as important. it's just the name of the genre

[pearl wave]

this is confusing ngl

[wispy lance]

I really like the wolf outfits, and I think those fit the world more than other things.

[shell mango]

Some ppl defend everything the devs do idk

[warm python]

Yeah, I get the fantasy/magic part of it. Should have left out the effects part, more questioning the fashion LOL for all the cash shop outfits to be things people find "normal"/casually worn in Palia's universe just kinda throws me off

[torpid pollen]

there are so many more outlandish outfits then ones that fit in palia

[tribal jacinth]

neh that looks like someone from another part of Palia would wear i think that one is lore friendly

[untold sluice]

I mean if that world has hotdogs and events where hotdogs are sold it's honestly fine

[shell mango]

Did you read what I said about the outfit or?

[untold sluice]

We got Kenyatta in a Chapaa outfit I don't think her in a Hotdog outfit is any weirder

[pearl wave]

im excited about elderwood <3

[torpid pollen]

the wolf outfits would only work if its tied into the elderwoods and people there lived a lot more feral like n all tbh. thats the only way

[tribal jacinth]

" They look very different to what the villagers are wearing "

[untold sluice]

Nai'o in a Hotdog outfit during a summer festival would be hilarious

[distant mason]

I’m so excited for them! they’re actually a fox and a raccoon though, right?

I hope they have a wolf style too eventually

[ebon pewter]

I'm looking forward to it, but I'm not really excited yet about something we know very little about and we won't be getting for at least half a year. One of my favourite things in the game though is how the quests reveal the fascinating lore and so much intrigue into the history of the world, and so I'm looking forward to having more big chunks of that to eat up to get me enjoying the game again!

[shell mango]

I'm saying the outfit is lore friendly it's just limited in detail and has limited colors

[wispy lance]

I think the hot dog man is wat reth would dress someone in to advertise his cooking, though it would probably be lettuce man 😂

[untold sluice]

Dont understand why they aren't the animals we hunt, like deer and muujin

[warm python]

like I play FFXIV trust me I love my occassional funny mascot outfit/flashy outfit but Palia always had a vibe to me that the cash shop outfits didn't all exactly mesh with

but that's just my view, I haven't honestly logged in in a hot min

[tribal jacinth]

oh sorry english dont english with my brain sometimes

[untold sluice]

Deer would be DOPE tho with the headpiece. I hate the druid outfit we have right now it looks not druidlike at all and is overly sexy when there is nothing sexy about druids

[distant mason]

maybe because humans remember extinct animals from our day and want to honor them

[shell mango]

Did you read the full message 😭 compare the colors and complexity in Badruu's outfit VS this lore friendly outfit

[wispy lance]

I was thinking that fox is sort of like a kitsu, but Kitsu's aren't meant for hunting so I hope they keep that in consideration and name it fox xd

[worldly tulip]

i can always pass on the requests, tho i'm just the quests/npc/story person. i also name the outfits tho and sneak lore into the outfit names :3c

[torpid pollen]

the ceremonial outfits looks like something from bahari city

[tribal jacinth]

I did, just never understood fully it I guess^^

[untold sluice]

Kitsu are mythical so I dont think people would be hunting something they dont think exists

[shell mango]

That's ok!

[untold sluice]

Yeah Im fine with them but do wish they'd offer us more color complexity in outfits instead of the 3 swatch only system

[distant mason]

it doesn’t have little horns, so I think we’re safe from the dark possibility of it being a kitsu pelt lol

[worldly tulip]

are there "lore-friendly" outfit types yall think are missing rn?

[untold sluice]

So you're saying they are wearing a plushie and not an animal? How very masc 😛...furries

[untold sluice]

Literally anything to do with half the skills.

[torpid pollen]

outfits that the villagers would wear for everyday, outfits that you'd wear in kilima valley and not from bahari city or somewhere fancy. the village doesnt have that type of culture

[worldly tulip]

you mean the skills/paths?

[shell mango]

That's exactly how I feel too 😭 I would actually pay more to have outfits that look complex like the villager ones.

[untold sluice]

Yes, no fishing outfits at all, no mining outfits at all, 1 farming outfit at all, 1 silly cooking outfit at all, like what

[warm python]

Tbh I feel like professions could use outfits; think gardening outfits, a cute fishing outfit, a hunter outfit that isn't just a big wolf pelt. But I'm also a little iffy because I still heavily feel that outfits like that ought to be tied to progression and not a person's credit card

[distant mason]

idk about “lore friendly” specifically but I would like to be able to earn outfits in the game that look similar to the villagers’ clothes

[torpid pollen]

like, i want overralls, something similar to tish's dress or something nice like that. simple patchworks clothing that makes you FEEL apart of the village for once!!!!

[untold sluice]

We IRL dress for what we are doing, why would we only get 1 or none!?

[jovial cloud]

but vega if you walk around with the dragon pet do you think chayne would gasp and start praying

[wispy lance]

Lore quest wise, will the staff we get from the night sky temple be just decor or an item we will use 👀.

[fiery perch]

Vega, this is a bit off topic, so i apologize, I do have a question that I hope won't be... idk the right word. Spoilery? I dont think it is? That is, if you happen to know.

Do you know if we will have to complete all the temples to access elderwoods when it does come out in early 2025? I'm hoping not, just because I genuinely can't do gales still so I can't really progress much further currently, and I'd still like to experience what you've created.

And if you can't answer that, i understand, but im hoping that isn't too bad of a question if you do know the answer to it.

[worldly tulip]

all i can say is that it's very important to the story

[untold sluice]

It shouldn't even just be 1 it should be MANY. It's the THING THIS GAME WANTS YOU TO DO.

Why we shouldn't get variety in outfits theme'd to that task is beyond me

[ebon pewter]

i'm honestly laughing so hard at the idea that a hot dog man outfit has to have "lore" 😂 (I get that people might not like if it breaks immersion, though that's not the same thing as lore. I guess "world building" would include that sense of style and aesthetic though too)

[worldly tulip]

please don't ask me to give the hot dog lore

[wispy lance]

Im happy with that answer. Ty 💜

[torpid pollen]

i dont think the hot dog outfit needs lore at all. plz do not /srs

[untold sluice]

Hot dogs exist therefor lore

[distant mason]

I was thinking more like… recreations… than plushies. but either way, I don’t think it not being an actual carcass makes it less masc LOLL

[worldly tulip]

gales is intended to be mainline content that is accessible to everyone. i know we released a lot of things to try and help players complete it, could you give me some examples of what you're still struggling with?

[ebon pewter]

i mean. I think it would be funny. But I think it would be funny exactly because of how unnecessary it is ahaha

[shell mango]

You're a dev?

[untold sluice]

I honestly have way more problem with the mermaid and the sailor moon outfit than I ever have with the hotdog outfit. If Nai'o was wearing the hotdog outfit at the summer event nobody would bat an eye

There is no evidence or mention of water humans with water powers (that don't do anything) or girls with love magic that is theme'd around the style of Sailor Moon specifically

[wise moat]

Oh wait we got actual devs here now?

[wispy lance]

The only lore it could have is that it's an advertisement technique used by a lot of merchants in the city 😂😅

[jovial cloud]

I really want a little books with bits of info on the different pets tbh

[hallow idol]

vega please add Free Realms to the game ty :)

[pearl wave]

bruh

[torpid pollen]

again id love if we could have some patchwork clothing that fits the vibe of the village. like im so sick of these super fancy bahari city outfits n stuff. like pleas.e i send in SO MUCH freaking feedback about this already!!!!!

[ebon pewter]

it took me a moment to notice too, but that's what the [s6] in their name means. oh there's a badge beside their name too

[fiery perch]

I just really struggle with heights and things. I struggle even gliding in the game because of it-- have to continuously close my eyes or I feel like my stomach does flip flops. 😖 , I don't really think there's much y'all can do, honestly.

[worldly tulip]

i've been here the whole time i just only come in once every three months for an hour and then disappear again cuz im Busy.

[wispy lance]

Oh speaking of books, I was sad we couldn't read the ones we bought from caleri

[distant mason]

me too! I wanted some lore snippets

[jovial cloud]

devs have always been around this is the official palia server haha we've seen a lot of devs in multiple different chats a whole lot :)

[warm python]

Yeah, I've talked about this ad nauseum for... /checks calendar.... a year now, but the game needs some cosmetics that are tied to progression because that kinda stuff keeps people playing! Let people show off their skills, their time put into things that aren't mindlessly grinding for the ten thousandth plushie they add

[shell mango]

Oh god can we please please please get outfits that are villager complex, fit the world and don't have to rely on the color swatches? Pleaseeee I am willing to pay extra just for that 😭 It's smth I've wanted ever since the game came out

[torpid pollen]

tbh i wish we could skip gales. its so unaccessable for ppl

[wise moat]

I was under the complete impression that it’s the unofficial official discord for it, as in the devs didn’t run it sort of thing?

[worldly tulip]

there my name got updated again the color is now correct teehee

OOPS DIDNT MEAN TO REPLY TO YOU hold on i was ytyuping another thing

[torpid pollen]

???

[thin elbow]

can you also make sure that the clothes fit the larger male body type? make pants and shirts long enough to actually fit and not feel like im wearing children clothes? 🙏

[untold sluice]

Like I do think the Animal Pelt outfit at least does work as a "hunting" outfit, especially if it has little pouches and stuff that make it look that way.

But it's still fairly outlandish when we have zero hunting outfits so far

[jovial cloud]

It's official we just don't have CMs at the moment but we used to

[untold sluice]

Nah you are wearing your sister's handmedowns

[distant mason]

I think there should be an eventual option to craft or buy clothes that suit the “Kilima aesthetic” without in-game purchase

[torpid pollen]

we need more man outfits too. the wolf feels so sterotypical it hurts

[untold sluice]

Honestly was fairly insulting to think by masc we meant cartoonish caricatures of toxic masculinity. Nah I just don't want every outfit to have a boob section required

[distant mason]

like let me learn from Hassian how to craft fur and leather into armor

[lyric night]

wizcrab already said that there will be more so there is hope

[worldly tulip]

if it's just the type of gameplay (platforming/gliding) in general, i think it will be really hard to make gales accessible. but i'd like to thing of potential other ways/designs to let you access the rest of the story. i can't promise anything coming in soon, but if you have ideas i am genuinely open to them. one thing i can think of as a potential fix is to allow quest skip?

[warm python]

I still can't do Gales, it made me dizzy, still did last I logged in, and the lack of any guidance that wasn't people me to watch a youtube video kinda frustrated me

I saw the map that they added with the eggs and while it's pretty aesthetically idk if it's gonna help me when last my quest objective was basically "Go find a thing"

[ebon pewter]

yup, not being able to show off my achievements/progression through my character is such a major lack for me in an MMO. Like, I normally don't care about "titles" in games but it would be such a big deal if they even gave us that. I guess nameplates are trying to achieve something similar there, maybe

[thin elbow]

exactly, my guy worked hard to earn money, so its time to spend it on new clothes

[torpid pollen]

yeah! it felt really insulting... a plaid shirt and normal jeans goes such a long way

[worldly tulip]

did the icons not pop up on your compass for the things you needed to find?

[jovial cloud]

you don't want to tell everyone you're an alpha? /j

[untold sluice]

It's insane we don't have even that.

Or like a single outfit with dirt on it

[shell mango]

Specifically this comparison I wanted to bring attention to @worldly tulip (sorry for the ping I'm just passionate on this) the colors on the outfit I showed which is lore friendly are limited and so are the details.

[wise moat]

Like an “auto advance” sort of thing

[warm python]

Does it for the stuff other than eggs now? I'll have to check again since it has been a hot minute

[polar elbow]

honestly my biggest request for outfits is, please more mix-n-matchability, and I mean color-wise too, not just style-wise, so tired of seeing two outfits I would love to use together, not usable together because none of their color options match anything else at all >>
Also giving the effects their own cosmetic slot because the effects very often ruin the outfit for me singlehandedly and I wish I could just... not use them

[distant mason]

let Delaila teach me how to sew her favorite style of dress or head covering. let Einar teach me how to decorate a hat with twigs and flowers and bobbers!

[worldly tulip]

it should for everything required to complete the main quest (the silverwing books aren't required to continue rn, and neither are zeki's treasure)

[jovial cloud]

!feedback friendly reminder folks you can also send direct feedback to the devs with the feedback form

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[tribal jacinth]

No one said hot dog outfit needed lore, people can make their own lore about that really if they are into that kind of RP. I was just saying I want more lore friendly outfits from the in-game lore, not player made lore

[wispy lance]

Quest roll back would be better, I wouldn't want to skip a cinematic or something, I would rather redo the previous one.

[distant mason]

ofc I’m just discussing

[bright ledge]

mobile games have the 'auto run assist' if you fail x thing too many times

[untold sluice]

Yeah bought the new masc outfit with the backpack and didn't know that it would come with a really stupid dice effect.

I honestly just like'd the jacket because it looked kinda like Hodari's and then was slapped in the face with Kitsch

Wish I could return it...thought the effect would be tied to the headpiece not the jacket

[shell mango]

I've sent multiple actually but talking directly is huge

[jovial cloud]

there is totally no implication you cannot discuss

[wise moat]

Yeah I feel bad adding to the current influx of questions and concerns 😭

[thin elbow]

the wolf outfit feels like something hassian or sifuu put together after a good hunt. feels like a proper hunter outfit to me

[distant mason]

I like it tbh

[worldly tulip]

i wonder if you fall off the island too many times if i can make the system just give you the eggs ... though i'd like to think of a more elegant solution

[fiery perch]

Yeah, I honestly don't know what can be done for it for me. I just struggle with heights and the like, and that's just unfortunate for any game as a whole!

Quest skip would honestly go a long way. Could even try to lock it behind trying to attempt the temple/puzzle a few times, before having the option to skip. I'm sure it could help others, too, on the accessibility front.

[wise moat]

I just used a guide after 6 or more attempts lmao

[warm python]

A lot of us have been doing so for a year (or more, in the case of alpha players) now! we just ask and discuss because again we've been doing so for a year now to few answers/results

[hallow idol]

Zeki mails them to you, lol

[worldly tulip]

we learned a lot from gales honestly about accessibility and enabling any player to continue the main story quests. i like to think we applied those relatively well to earth and future content, but it definitely makes it complicated to try and fix up live content because it's much more dangerous to mess w/ peoples data

[distant mason]

def hope they implement a switch in settings to turn off the special effects of premium outfits. I know others have been suggesting something along those lines.

[jovial cloud]

Very much aware of that, just tossing it out there not everyone knows about the feedback form :) Seemed like a good time for a reminder

[untold sluice]

Yeah, would EXTRA love being able to turn them off globally so I don't see other people's effects, they are so massively ugly and immersion breaking

If you enjoy them? More power to you, I don't. I find them exceedingly annoying

I like effects tied to outfit logic...not just random floating effect + random glowing symbol around their feet = premium

[shell mango]

Another thing can we make the Eleero a pet? No one wants to buy it as a glider 💀 but I would as a pet

[worldly tulip]

but just know i do want to think of ways to get as many players able to complete the temples questline as possible, and any ideas yall have are very welcome.

[pearl wave]

even through this channel is full of outfits, i want devs to know that I'm really excited for what they brings to the game! I love the mysteries and can't wait to play when the new stuffs do come <3

[ebon pewter]

I think that just shoes and maybe gloves being seperate would be such a big deal. there's a lot of outfits where I like the pants but not the shoes.

[distant mason]

I don’t think they’re all ugly persay but I do think they’re often superrr laggy on switch lol. also, like, with the soothsayer outfits… my system cannot handle the body paint! it blurs together in the closet as well as when I see someone else running around with it in-game. really sad because I wanted to buy those but probably won’t now.

[warm python]

OH I just saw you bring up quest skip and like. idk if you've played FFXIV but, during a summer fair, there've been times where a jumping puzzle was part of the seasonal quest. But there's also an option to skip it, but instead of just a flat skip like you've skipped a whole chapter and you missed plot, you get a narration about how your character did the whole thing with their eyes closed cause they're that cool and awesome

so something like a skip for the parts where accessibility is an issue would be cool as long as it doesn't make the player feel any lesser for it

[untold sluice]

I may get that Pelt outfit only because MAYBE I could combine it with some other stuff to make a closer to reality druid set.

The druid set they gave us is hot garbage, like what does it have to do with being a druid.

[worldly tulip]

also sorry for not answering more cosmetics questions it's just not something i control so i don't wanna speak to it. i can always pass the info along, and make more suggestions to the cosmetics team abt lore friendly and ungendered cosmetics. as an NB having ungendered outfits is somethin close to my heart too.

[shell mango]

Effects being in outfits have actually stopped me from buying outfits 💀 I was going to buy the new game knight skin but as soon as the effect materialized in my screen my smile immediately dropped 💀

[worldly tulip]

haha i just logged in yesterday for moonfire, realized there was no prize for the jumping puzzle, and left

[wispy lance]

I think the air temple was hard for some players because of the gliding aspect. Same as with the tower, people got to anxious and they just need help. I would have liked to enter the temple with my friend and help her out. So if temples could be party friendly it would be awesome

[worldly tulip]

i think it's ok for optional content to be difficult. i don't play savage and i don't expect to play savage. but i want all the main content to be accessible to as many players as possible.

[fiery perch]

And that is great! And yes, I understand it being complicated and messing with data of past temples. A quest skip, like you mentioned, might be easier to do? Not sure. Relika above also mentioned a bit how another game does the quest skip type feature!

I know for future ones, I always thought of the idea of having them be more co-op, so 1 person/friend, could help open up alternative pathways if needed. (like pulling a lever, standing on a pressure plate)... or just having 1 route that's the usual difficulty, and one that is a bit more accessible friendly.

Either way, thank you for listening and even brainstorming for a moment with me. I definitely appreciate it!

[untold sluice]

I impulse bought it without thinking to look which item held the effect (because I don't usually buy effect outfits because I dont like effects) and then just assumed it would be the headpiece....wrong, the only part of the outfit I wanted was the chest and it was stuck to that piece.

Im so mad still. Threw my money in the garbage

[shell mango]

Can you mention stuff about color complexity and detail too?

[thin elbow]

pls pass along that it would be amazing to buy outfit pieces seperately. not just the whole outfit / bundle at once.

some outfits have cool parts in it, but as a whole i do not like them

[untold sluice]

Yeah they get no money from me if it's just 1 item...or they could get like 300 from me for 1 item in that set

[warm python]

LMAO I still gotta do it. I'm so bad at the jumping puzzle, every time there's a jumping puzzle related to a sightseeing log I make my in-game spouse do it and use the eternal bond ring to teleport to them

[distant mason]

thisss I’ve seen several people suggesting it

[shell mango]

I sent a feedback in the feedback form about them adding an option to remove the effect bc I was so sad 😭 I just wanted to buy the outfit but seeing the effect over and over is such a turn off

[worldly tulip]

gliding is hard to just not request as part of a quest because it's a basic movement of the game, or is considered to be. are there aspects of gliding that just make it more difficult? is it on switch or pc, is it a controls concern? camera movement?

[untold sluice]

It's such a lame effect, like what game in this universe has DnD and why is it magical? Like maybe if my character just like pulled out some dice and threw them up and down...but glowing neon dice circling around me like a bad advertisement? So tacky.

[thin elbow]

i rather spend 50 euros spread out over 5 items, than give them 0 cause i dont like the 5 outfits they are tied to

[worldly tulip]

people don't seem to have a problem with the water temple glide so it may be that the target landing spots are too small?

[tribal jacinth]

All I did was compare hot dog with the same price as the lore friendly stuff anyway so not sure why it came up like that

[fiery perch]

The water temple one didn't get to me as much, because it was 1 straight forward movement. And it was a large location, and it felt more safe to have my eyes closed while I do it.

Gales also looks like it's way up in the sky, which just heightens my anxiety with .. well, heights, and getting me dizzy & having my stomach flipflop and all that anxiety stuff 😖

[polar elbow]

In the temple questlines, you usually forge on ahead and open up portals/etc for the NPCs accompanying you to catch up.
What about an option to ask the accompanying NPCs to go ahead in your place and open the way for the player, instead? could even throw some extra dialogue in to describe anything that might have been missed from the player not 'solving' that segment themselves

[warm python]

That's part of it I think! I had no issue with water temple, but I think the amount of gliding, the smaller spots, the boosts of air that send you up and down, it kinda amplifies it all

[fiery perch]

I love the sound of this honestly!!!

[worldly tulip]

i think one we can look into is maybe popping a skip if the player "fails" a gliding/platforming challenge too many times. like something that, after you "fail" enough times, one of the npcs offers to do it for you?

[fiery perch]

Yeah!! This honestly feels like a good compromise, to me. And would help and go a long way

[worldly tulip]

i could frame it as "the npc gives you some tips. now you think you've got this part!" and it ports you ahead.

[wispy lance]

For me gliding is easy and it feels natural, but I noticed not all people have the same dexterity. Also there's a bit of a bug recently that the character won't grab the wall when gliding into it.

Quest wise the gales was also easy, I feel like maybe people skipped reading and that wat probably caused not understanding wat to do, but that is something no one except the player can control.

I also feel like some text has wierd wording, I'm not native English speaker some word sort off feel archaic or something.

[warm python]

That would be really cool!!

[fiery perch]

This honestly sounds really nice. It doesn't feel like youre "less than" or anything (in my opinion) that some games can struggle to do, when doing skips. It feels like your character actually figures it out still, and manages to do it. Which feels really really nice!

[distant mason]

for more puzzle-y areas, simply offering increasing layers of tips from the supporting NPCs would be nice.

[fiery perch]

And again, thank you so much vega for talking about this stuff, and brainstorming with us about these things. It means a lot and is super appreciated 💕