#💬│palia-discussions
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Yea I am using the fishing brew and so many timer hooks to speed it up but still no luck. Such a grind
Yea ok, I thought maybe higher level makes it harder to catch, as I'm lvl 22 fishing and trying to "not succeed" on catches so I dont go up any further
If you're using the right bait and fishing right spots at the right time then it really is just RNG with little boosts from brews and such unfortunately.
Surely I'm not the only one that wishes these fish could be buffed after like 300 attempts or something?
100% with you there
Like the longer you fish the higher the chance gets? Cause it's such s drag I feel like just giving up on Palia, and I love this game so much
oh for sure, i think if they introduce a new skill or maybe an item to increase the rng or “higher chance at rare+” something like that for a short time
Yes that would be fantastic 😩
i don’t grind fishing like that, im usually like a palia day or two attempting then go do something else for a bit
About the only thing I can suggest that has helped me is to go work on something else for a while so that you don't burn out just fishing. Its not much though, sorry
What's the best way to send this as a feature request?
!feedback
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I am too. Took me 15 minutes for a certain rare ray, but two weeks and hundreds of worms for unicorn. It’s almost a rite of passage
Thanks that's a good tip
only problem is I've finished almost all the missions hahahaha
Some people say you can cancel a cast after seeing a fish you don’t want and save bait. But I’ve never tested it
Weeklys all done?
yea could do weeklys ! Good idea. I've friendship 4 with everone but the magic lady
Tamala?
Other possibilities: Deco a new plot?
Yeah it works just as long as you don’t press any buttons to start the reel in process.
The other one 😁
Subira?
I've been thinking of doing one of my alternate plots with the tent and all the makeshift stuff I can lay my hands on. Sort of a back to the beginning type of thing.
Yea could do
Romancing the law?
me too
Shortly before the 2nd month of playing I’ve caught all starred bugs and fish except the ancient! I struggled big time. I stopped for a month trying to fish it. I just leveled up other skills, deco and did weeklys. Then exactly on the 3rd month, my first cast and first catch was the ancient fish! Was really emotional when I’ve almost given up. So, really RNG.
See with my luck I’d lose the ancient fish right after hooking it 😂🤣
Given where the game is right now I try to think of it as a sandbox game in between the content drops/missions. I come up with my own goals and challenges then.
That's wild ! Maybe I need to stop fishing for a while, maybe that actually increases my chances.. Either way I have no choice but to do something else, otherwise I will go mad haha
I just sent them a feedback request for this. I'm sure this isn't the first time, but anyone else that agrees, it would be beneficial to send them this feedback as well. Thanks for the discussion about it Palians ❤️
It was! I think I just stood at the spot for whole 10 irl mins 🤣 …yeah do something else. In the back of my mind there was this hope that it might reset things for me. Who knows?
Does it bother anyone elae we can sell/use certain items?
Sure, Ancient chests look pretty, but after my 40th one id like to maybe store things in it? Sell it? I dunno they bother me.
Same with furniture. Id like to sell things ive changed my mind on.. u less Im just missing something
U can use them as decor. I use them to put tanks on and decor in my garden esp those with leaves. The pretty chests are in my bug room and bedroom. Tish likes chests, so you can gift them too
Oh I see, thanks.
Just don’t throw them yet
Yea it bothers me too. I ham using all my many chests as decor on my block (I heard you can give them as gifts to some as well), but the furniture, we NEED to be able to sell this !! It would be a good way to make money as well in the game. I think selling your furniture would be a really beneficial upgrade
can anyone confirm that you can get all makeshift furniture from any water source? im just missing a handful but im not sure if they're specifically found in some areas
oof I'm not sure
According to the wiki
You can also purcahse makeshift items unavailable in waterlogged chests at ||Zeki's Underground market||
Would be so worth it since the amount of mats for example bell flower set jeez.
right? like if the mods were that terrible shouldnt things be reviewed that they did?
So I never made the dragon or ember sets because I didn't want to play with their aesthetics. But I'm doing my weekly furniture accomplishments and... wow. 40 flow planks. Oof. 
Ban appeals are a thing!!
It's an option to choose when you go to their support page, and there's one specifically for the Discord server c:
I can understand it's not the most... evident? convenient? option in a way, since it would seem better to do it through Discord if it happens in the Discord 
You could try looking at this list and see what's cheapest for the weekly challenge 
Thank you TheElm =3 I appreciate the reference!
spring is a bit too warm (in my region) for me
but very windy and I wish it would stop
that poor fish is gonna fly away 
It had to go home.
I ate it 
Me looking at the Palia update since I haven't played since 0.6.0...
Anyone agreeing that we need more outdoor stuff and specifically an option to plant actual flowers? 😭
Yeeess I´d love that!
I wanna make like a flower garden but all we have really is potted plants 
It would make a lot of sense to have it possible
I'm always happy about more plants!
How about star quality versions of all plants, and we can place them wherever we want? Doesn't have to be a different model, just the in-game one already would be enough, that way we also could get around the pots...
(And I want to have sunflowers in my garden... I have the impression Tish would love them...)
Please do not take an ajustment of the mod team as the previous one being "so bad they needed to be replaced" as this was not the case. 
We appreciate the work the previous mod team has done and wish them a pleasent time as server members
I thought that was a recent comment, but that was so far back.. when I clicked it... it scrolled up so fast i thought i was going to pass out 
I back read quite a bit but discord also jumps around weirdly when you look around on mobile
Anyways have a good day folks :)
Mobile is tedious at timesss. You have a great day too Sen!
Bed time you 🗞️🗞️
Agreed
I always end up replying to messages hours or even days ago due to the mobile version
Its silly lol
Fine
That sticker is amazing lol.
it's was strange yesterday Tish was at her at 1am palia time 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔
NPCs can get slowed down if players talk to them, and hold them up. Their schedules can get way off
Imagine arriving to work 12 hours late because you were socializing with the town

one time i was late for work because I ran off to do a moltres raid in pokemon go and then I named it "my sins"

Did you tell work a Moltres was blocking your way?
imagine if it was a snorlax raid
"Sorry boss! Had to get a flute!"
🪈
This emote is so cute 
its an old old meme but still one of my favorites lol
and the mascot for the japanese Kumamoto prefecture
Ooh!!! I knew I recognized it from somewhere I couldn't remember what though
If Kilima village and Bahari Bay had their own mascots, what would they be? 

sorry my soul departed from me imagining einar wearing an ancient fish mascot costume
i feel like hed be very pleased with himself
Spoiler: Bahari Rummage letter
Brb sobbing on the beach don't mind me
that quest cuts deep

Sobs more
Hey is there any way to reset the heavy metal chapaa high score on the machine i have at home?
I'm gonna smooch his face 🥺
I think it resets whenever you leave home and come back, if not that then relogging does
quick question, is Palia cross compatiable? If my friend gets it on switch could they still play with me if im on pc?
Crossplay crossprgression yep all that good stuff
I overuse that emoji massively. It is the best. 
I'm not sure how else to take this statement tho
This is objectively bad
Please consider the further context was the faq question about not revisiting decisions made by the previous mod team
We were just saying if that team was involved in something that took several months of investigation, audits, and feedback to be removed, there's probably some valid cases where decisions should be revisited
That's not to say they were all involved in this or anything
I think that's something you can totally being up to a CM of your own volition to seek the clarification you feel you need 
No worries, I don't need clarification the victims have posted here in the past. I was just explaining the context because you @ed me! 
All my statement was meant to clarify is the previous team was not replaced for reasons of "they were bad" or anything like that 
Criticism of them is subjective and this is also not to invalidate one's negative experience with them
I don't think they were called 'bad' but it was suggested that, with investigations and audits resulting in removal, perhaps claims of abuse of power would make an appeal of old decisions reasonable if raised by the person affected
Where can I adopt a Grimalkin?
The adoption center is in outer space, sorry.
Yeah abuse of power and privacy is pretty bad I'm not much in the business of fluffing up my words for others comfort 
In regards to that, claims should definitely be brought up to a CM for discussion for sure
My only intent was the clarification that it was not the reasoning behind the change :)
I think I'm less clear than before - the CM message felt clear and what you're saying kind of sounds like it conflicts with it
Yeah I don't think we need to defend them, the message is very clear especially for anyone familiar with the details
I feel like then perhaps the message was read in a way unintended?

But again issues regarding clarification or the discussion of wanting previous incidents addressed should be mentioned directly to a CM 
tbh I'm kind of hoping they're watching and will do a FAQ update. I don't think further clarification should happen over DM
They can update the FAQ for sure as mentioned is possible when it's needed
Sure as a mod I can also direct this request but I kindly ask that if one has concerns or issues modmail is also open :)
didnt they mention replacing the previous mod team with volunteer mods? maybe they needed to free up some tasks so the previous mods can help out with other stuff?
i think most of (if not all?? unsure) the prev mods are just players now!
it could also be to do with the Legal Contract stuff - like not being allowed to have both volunteers and paid ppl all working the same job
Also keep in mind they were paid moderators I don't think they were here out of love for the game or the community lol
so it could have been that they needed More Mods but could only afford to pay for X amt, so instead they are replacing them with a larger volunteer team/a volunteer team that can be Expanded in size?? 
i know they said sth abt making the mod team bigger in the future in the FAQ
all we have to go off of is things that happened here followed by the message that this happened after weeks of audits and investigations
There's not what they said tho I mean the message is exceptionally clear
You don't need to do several weeks of investigations, audits, and collect feedback on a team without issues...
i mean it could be that the investigations etc could be, "there aren't enough mods and they don't know enough abt the game" or something, but i gen have no idea
I definitely do have an idea, and wish it was that lol
if that was it I would think it wolud be something they'd specify
it would defo have to take weeks bc it's a Paid Position, so before they fired a bunch of ppl, they'd have to have a huge portfolio of evidence innit
the message we got seemed pretty clear that they were addressing the major issues people were discussing, idk
but i don't know the lore of paliacord 💀 it could be a secret plot to blow up the moon for all i know
Nah there's never been issues here more moderators would have prevented. The issue was what they were doing. Evident by the people who have come forward with their stories about abuse of power and privacy
i see, i see
We need to split the moon in two, you see
we must act more like astronauts

💭 🌍 ☮️
I wanted to make a really bad joke about b tier supervillains and cutting the moon in half but in all honesty there's apparently a severe lack of media villains cutting the moon in half...
i'm almost completely sure that was not the case ope sorry felix already explained. there was corruption
Is that really how it reads
vry worrying
I mean that genuinely!!! not trying to be rude but I'm surprised that would be the take away from such a serious statement
which is strange cos i feel like if i were getting paid like a salary i would take my job rly seriously then ; - ; but oh well such is life
oh, yeah - i've worked in head offices before and they can rly make things sound vry intense!!!
Yeah, enough people have come forward here about their experiences that the situation is pretty painfully obvious to those of us who are here enough to have seen said experiences given
tbh if the changes are to fix the corruption etc. that's a good thing, and really a best case scenario. Things go wrong all over, and if they're learning and changing to be better it's good. But that's why hearing that might not be the case is concerning
oh for sure! i more meant worrying for the members prior to the mod changeover
The lack of privacy of modmail was one of the biggest issues. I know for certain I’ve had some of mine leaked.
on a lighter note im glad the mods now know ab the game lol apparently the paid ones before didnt
absolutely!
i'm still v new here so i keep forgetting a lot of the lore 
Yeah that’s kinda wild to me
Can we quiz them to be sure of that?
It's been less than 24 hours since the changeover. It's a hard ask though (waiting), and understandable why people are asking.
"when you're offline how many ticks does your garden grow"
Tbh i trust people who have been respecting NDAs from being alpha testers to keep things private than just people paid to (because clearly being paid isn’t enough)
So true
I think I heard a couple are also Reddit mods? Or were? So that’s a nice sign they have experience.
this is true, and some have taken action to distance themselves (I assume) to uphold these values
Redditor mods are brave 
Yeah 
Yea. At the beginning the devs themselves ran the Palia subreddit and it caused a lot of problems. So because they Devs needed someone they could trust "right Now" and we shepps had already been vetted they basically were like "So... Who wants to mod the Palia subreddit? Raise your hand"
I of course did NOT raise my hand because as Cinna said... Reddit Mods are brave and I am not that Awesome.
Do you guys remember when the devs use to post here... What happened to that lol
I saw the call for reddit mods and went nuh uh 
we're too spicy
I think it was my fault maybe I swear the last time they said anything was a snarky comment to me and then poof
this is like, the opposite of the mod exodus that happened with the GW2 discord lmao. (For reference that situation was the server owner was very sus so the mods basically were like “ok we’ll just remake the discord” and performed a mass walk-out. Pretty much all the discord members followed them.)
That's wild.
It was craaazy to witness and be part of when it happened
I've heard of things like that happening.
I mean if the mods were that good I could understand that tbh
Sadly, the two main Community Managers who are in charge of Discord and Discord shepps Trucy and GBW (respectively) have left to go on to bigger and better things.
If this is somehow a side note to issues behind the scenes they didn't say. Just said that they were moving on to more awesome.
I miss GBW...
Trucy?
Same.
Yeah to my knowledge Ashe was running the Reddit end of things so when CMs left and she took over discord, change was sure to follow
I forget her full tag. It was trucy something. She left way back in the transfer between play testing and actual beta beta testing.
Im interested to see what the rule changes are that are apparently in the works
Hey everyone I just woke up but I hope you all have a great day ahead! I just want to send out a reminder that if you have specific concerns about moderation, ModMail or talking with a CM is the appropriate avenue. Speculation and rumors in this channel are better suited to what the beast of the Elderwoods might look like
🙏
😒
I haven’t seen any updates of them since yesterday but Ashe did mention it was on her List(tm)
I know the CMs moved on, I meant the actual devs who use to chat here
I think rn we’re just discussing thoughts/feelings rn and reflecting on past stuff! But Ty for checking in
i keep hoping the beast of the elder woods is actually Taylin, alive & well, and still a great pro hunter but Changed
same let me romance her AND Sifuu
This for real, PLEASE
People bravely shared their stories in this very channel you can look it up, I believe victims in not gonna diminish their experiences referring to it that way
Maybe the elderbeast is just a rumor and its actually a giant cat 
Or maybe the elderbeast has the body of the swag stag, face of the azure chappa, and tail of the white muujin
Elderbeast is just a black footed cat

Didn't y'all know? The elderbeast is actually the 5x Frogbert, in his true form
Is that yr cat?!?!
that is a great guess because it is haha

Fwiw Felix as someone who has had many Experiences(tm) of the kind you’re talking about, I’m personally feeling more confident in the current situation
I am always so tickled when people have emote-ified their pets! Idk why I've not done that yet tbh
I am too don't get me wrong, I'm just perplexed by the current need to respond to posts that have already slipped out of current discussions to obfescate what happened when the CM post was pretty darn clear
Maybe i don’t quite understand what you mean by obfuscating in this context, do you mind explaining?
the conversation started back up because Sen replied to Felix and said something that appears to contradict the CM post
Ohhhh I think I missed that, my bad
Yeah, It wasn't you who was doing it! Don't worry
Anyway I'ma go make ramen for lunch
byee
I just realized it's Pi Day, and I'm requesting that everyone playing Palia today make a pie. That's all. 🙂
Oh no, no the barbara rhubarb pie rap is back in my head
I haven’t thought about Pi day in years omg
I didn't either until I saw someone post about it. 🥧
I fully admit that I might have been a dunce and labled some of the dates with a pi symbol for today's date (just the simple things, everything important got normal dates)
That sounds like the only correct thing you could've done, Khon. I'm in favor. 
What about cheesecake?
I don't think of cheesecake as a pie, more of a tart. But I'd say meat pies count.
So I went and read up to get a little more context. I think that the intent was maybe if there were concerns about previous issues being opened up again, a discussion with a CM would be needed to essentially give the new Mods the go-ahead to do so. @west marlin
But that’s just me trying to understand what was said above
Basically it being on a discrecenary basis (I def spelled that wrong)
Incoming pie debate on Pi Day.
Tarts are pies though
Shame there’s no sandwich day
Tarts are an open pastry case that contains a filling... (apparently, looking at a definition). And then pies... are a "baked dish of fruit, or meat and vegetables, typically with a top and base of pastry." BUT THEN IT'S LIKE... okay but tarts are a baked dish of fruit...
November 3rd
Ive been corrected, and shall thusly prepare my defense of hotdogs as sandwiches for then
but pumpkin pie are tart shaped
with no top pastry
I also thought of this, because I love pumpkin pie.
Tarts are just mini pies
But everyone calls it a pumpkin PIE, and not a pumpkin tart. I dunno, y'all... we're screwed.
Burn it all down.
in short, palia needs more different pies to bake, and more desserts in general
Today is also apparently national potato chip day, so I guess make a pie crust with chips?
no, hotdogs are a kind of taco
will never forget that none of the lunar new year recipes are desserts. Got me excited over rice cakes for nothing
Entirely dependent on how you hold your hotdog!
how..how else do you hold a hotdog
With your toes.
cannoli are sushi
Ngl 9/10 times I rotate my hotdog for the opening to be on the side.
Instead of eating it the normal way, you turn it to the side so it's like a sand--... wait... Red, is that what you do?
do you break the other side (normally bottom) open?
I don’t like getting the ketchup and stuff on my nose
Rice cakes are crunchy, and if coated in cheese powder, can make a decent substitute for cheetos.
hold on lemme make a diagram
I want them all
for sure, but theres also sweet rice cakes too and none of the sweet rice cakes made it in
That's what we have the macaroons for!
You put the condiments between the bun and dog, so it doesn’t fall off/out. Then you rotate the dog so the opening is sideways and monch, as shown
that drawing 
IM ON MY PHONE OK IM LIMITED 
No it's perfect, don't change a thing.
but if your sandwich isnt two independent bread slices is it a sandwich
Phenomenal 
See I disagree because you could fold a slice of bread in half and it would still be a sandwich
nah it's a taco
I would call that a struggle meal
okay so what about cereal, is cereal a soup? that isn't covered on the original diagram
I just looked up the definition of a taco, and taco's have to include a tortilla.... don't ask me why I googled it.
And there are such things as open-face sandwiches! An official term
yes (oh no we got slowdown)
a tortilla is just mexican flat bread. So it's bread.
i'm learning a lot about sandwiches and tacos
I think so but I also recall hearing an argument that convinced me otherwise and I’m not sure what it was
Tag yourself 
chaotic evil
I'm in chaotic neutral.
Poptart is a sandwich actually
poptart is a calzone
i see pumpkin pie. I am that
This is actually making my brain go NUTS.
ravioli is also a calzone
I like that the chart says "with apologies to (tag)" instead of "with thanks" 
i love these stupid debates they tickle my brain in just the right way
I think I'm true neutral and I now demand lemon meringue be added to Palia. And lemon trees 
more trees in general would be nice
and red dragons (do other people know the really long red dragon lemon meringue pie joke? it's too long for discord)
No, it's a taco.
See if something is generally accepted to be toast-able (aka placed in a toaster) then i believe it has a greater chance of being considered for the sandwich role. Poptarts are advertised to be placed in a toaster and even shaped to be done so. Calzones however are not.
so a folded piece of bread is also a taco
I've never toasted an entire sandwich
If it stays in one piece, yes. Bread rarely does this, however.
but it's encased on all sides, hence calzone
thats a dry bread to split that way 
I'll accept that poptarts are (bad) toast (toaster streudals ftw)
You, friend. Must be shown the delightful world of Paninis.
that's more grilling, no?
I knew someone who would put her leftover pizza in toasters, including the ones like this;
(like not a toaster oven)
...can confirm it did not work well
I hope that the people who want to, do so. I don't honestly except for two occasions I didn't have any personal problems with them lol
I just saw and read about a lot of stuff through watching this channel 👀
I'm not sure #💬│palia-discussions is the best place to talk about pies and toasters
But I am curious have you guys been thinking about what to put in your steam reviews? I've been prewritting mine
I am optimistic they'll still disclose its early access or beta on steam before it goes live so I can change a big section of it, but I've been thinking about it lately
I sure do wish we had an official statement about whether or not it's in beta
I'll take the 'Oops we accidentally deleted an entire species with our update and won't fix it for a month' as a statement of absolutely still being in beta 😂
that's definitely more depressing if it's out of beta
Oof, I hope so. Coral Island did their 1.0 release and the game is not even close to being done lol. So I hope Palia doesn't do the same.
Forgivable in beta 🙏
Draws into question the maturity of their process, builds and stability if not
Yeahhhh I picked it up at 1.0 and was really disappointed to learn that the underwater part was not actually anywhere near done, and that it was super empty
I'm gonna be an arm chair software designer for a second and wonder... Does their QA environments not match production? Are they under resourcing QA? Are they only doing integration testing on pull requests and not regression testing the entire build before shipping?
Funny that I've wondered this since I started playing and it feels like whatever the issue is it's not really improved if they're still missing such glaring bugs
With Switch I can be a little forgiving since Nintendo has such specific rules about things not being “betas” but steam is where I’m certainly questioning things
Yeah, I played it a lot during early access and the beta underwater kingdom, but I haven't played it since the 1.0. Like the main quest isn't finished and they did a 1.0 release? Oooo it rubbed me the wrong way, I haven't played it since.
Ouch I never actually finished what they’d released of the main quest myself. I had been planning to romance one of the merpeople and was just very disappointed when I found that wasn’t possible at the time since I wasn’t keeping up w the update news
see that's where it's worst though. If Nintendo won't allow it to be beta, they shouldn't lie to Nintendo and say it's not if it is.
I hope I didn't sound upset about the toast thing
It's just all to common an occurrence here when people are having tough meaningful conversations that's the chat gets cluttered with stickers and offtopic nonesense which probably isn't intentional but when you see it happen so many times it gets tiring
You prob right, but I also think if Nintendo actually cared about their eshop they wouldn’t have so much absolute trash
So true the shovelware is awful
It wouldn’t be hard for Nintendo to have been like “whys it beta elsewhere tho?” If they did any actual approval process
Oh me too I wanted to romance Semeru LOL. Apparently there's going to be a huge update may/June but a lot of people are (rightfully) still upset on the reddit and discord. So hopefully the Palia team is more transparent about it. 😭
definitely true. I wonder what'd happen if they noticed though. Would they pull it from the platform? If so, do switch players get refunded on outfit purchases?
You're so real for that. I never want to see the pizza gif again
yeah, I really want to know what's going on with the game's beta status
It's clearly still in beta given the response I replied to ^ but they really shouldn't be trying to hide it
Honestly no clue. Based on their neglect of everything else eshop related I doubt anything
She replied recently and said 'no update sorry' 😒
Chaotic neutral 
It's okay it's not like we're less then two weeks away from the launch on steam or anything 🥹
It's not like 300k people haven't already put it on their wishlist with misleading advertising about the state of the game
SURELY that won't impact the reviews on one is the most critical and review driven platforms you can sell on 
Honestly if you look at the game companies a lot of S6 came from, I get the sense they are “used to” (or at least their corporate leadership) dealing with the typical “gamer bro” audience, rather than the more nuanced that comes with the type of game Palia is
Cozy games are wildly successful on steam tho
I can't wait for the 25th, I'll be here and on the steam page allll day
||(this probably isn't actually true but I wish I could be
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Not to say they aren’t, but it requires a diff approach for maintaining an audience
You're right and I think starting off not being transparent about the state of the game is a terrible approach 🥹
true for any audience!
I think what irks me a lot is that CMs have to get approval from the higher ups who clearly don’t care enough to actually let them be transparent
guess it'll probably be at the same day, how bad can it possibly be 
I genuinely don’t think it’s the devs or the CMs or any of the current front-facing people who are to blame for most of the mishandling rn
I really want Palia to live up to the promise we have been expecting for 5 years now.
They intentionally removed the mmo tag from steam and my biggest fear with a steam flop is that they'll never get the momentum they need to actually make true on what this game promised.
It's really important to me that steam launch is successful, because it's going to go a long way to make the game successful
And starting off with a lie is a huge red flag
Just call it early access... You will already be raked across the coals for Mtx no matter, don't get the same anger about the game being beta quality
starting off with a lie
flashbacks to No Man’s Sky and Fallout 76 release

Honestly the way palia has been handling its new platform launches is really concerning, regarding the games' longevity
A new platform launch is a one-time chance to make a good first impression on a large number of potential new players. You do not want to squander those very limited opportunities, because you're never going to get them again.
But instead of making sure that the time leading up to new platform launches is as smooth and bug-free as possible, they do, well, what they've been doing
Sadly that's pretty standard. No one wants to get fired in this climate (recent layoffs) or violate NDA to go beyond the scope of what they've been allowed to say.
I'm sitting here wondering if they're gonna release a patch right before the steam release that has as big glaring issues as this last one did 🫡
Anyone know what these green celendars are or what they are for? Are they a glitch or something new coming to the game?
Hello steam users welcome to our very finished game, please ignore the placeholder cylinders and purchase a palia cat immediately
Omg that's amazing.
Your new friends
probably, and then leave themselves no time left to fix any of it
@dense quarry gets all the credit
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it
Well, your helpfully sarcastic
:-D i have cylinder brain
I mean frogbert is not in the game so there has to be a patch for the 25th or before that, just hoping that it won't break the whole game, would like to see a patch like 176 again, that was their best patch so far in terms of not breaking everything
It's a bug. Not sure if they're bugged shells or something left by the dev team but it's a bug lol.
To give a full answer, it’s a glitched asset that we’ve all fallen in love with
I was making a joke about the comedic timing of you putting that in chat in the middle of a conversation about the game quality and the steam launch...... Not being rude to you
Ok thank you. I just wanted to be sure it wasnt just me seeing them.
If you read the posts above you'll see the context was not at your expense
The timing of that question did make me cackle out loud as I lurk
You are not alone.
Don't worry, we're all seeing them and collectively crying into our pillows about it. 😭 (me half joking half serious lol)
Oh ok. Got ya. Guess I just got good timing. lol
Yes they are haunting
It was almost like it was planned. I was literally typing a similar sentance before you posted the picture lol
I kinda wish a mario style pirahna plant would pop out of them.
lol... cool... Now they just need to place a cylinder pet in the game or something. lol
thanks for being a good sport after the explanation, it really was great timing in context 
Cylinder romance when
I had just jumped into chat to ask that too. So I had no idea it would line up with yalls previous conversation. lol
Likely still before Caleri romance 
Sorry that it came off rude, we are all laughing with you I promise 😂 it was great
Likely before Sifuu too 
unfortunately accurate 
It's all good. 😉
I accidentally pronounced Caleri's name as "Celery" for some reason and now I can't stop calling her celery. 😭
This is now going to be stuck in my brain forever
I call chayne as kanye west
Oh no, I'm sorry! Lololol.
Now you just need peanut butter and rasins and you will have an "Ant on the Log" lol
Omg lol.
It makes for a good snack. About the only way Ill eat Celery.
Now when you say her name your gonna think about that snack! 🤣
Wow that's a child hood memory I've not thought about for a long time
We also put cheese whiz in them
Caleri is a snack
People just don't appreciate her gaurded persona.
I never tried that before. Ill keep that in mind
Andddddd now I'm hungry
RIGHT! Devs are watching and release it in next patch. 😂
I prefer to assume the muujin left the toxic waste and must be extradited back to Bahari to face punishment.
Yo the muujin have been gone for so long that I forgot about them until I came to this discord. 😂
They can stay gone
Yeah I am stuck on a cooking quest cause I got toi make the Stared "Muujin Bahari" food and I tried making it with normal meat but never gives me the stared food. Think I need stared Muujin Meat and I can't request stared it seems
"Your order is Served" is the quest. It been served alright. lol
And yet they can’t deal w the invasive chapaa smh
I think there's a login reward going on where they send it to your inbox. But, I believe, the cooking to (idk if it's like flipping the pan, I don't cook IRL my husband does LMAO) but that's bugged and it will (probably) ruin the meal. (Except for...I think fried dumplings. I just wait that one out and it's fine. But the others? Nope).
You don't need starred ingredients, thankfully, it just boosts the chances
This is how my bf pronounces her name too and I accept that it is her name now lol
I intentionally have done that since day 1
Just a friendly reminder: You can open your homestead up to the Public on your server to allowed folks to look/admire your hard work creating a home in Palia! There is option in your "H" setting to turn on this feature. Drawback - you must be home to have visitors come by. Only mentions since I am still running into folks who did not realize Palia devs has gave us this option. Enjoy browsing your neighbors!! Maybe you will find an idea or two to use back at your own homestead!
Use starred ingredients doesn’t have to be starred mujinn
Really, I was assuming I had too have all stared materials. That is helpful then. I have cooked it 4 times and not got the starred one I need
Cooking it faster helps, if you can cook with a friend it'll be much faster
Ok, that is good to hear. Ill just keep making it till I get my starred food.
Yeah, its a cool feature. I too found a few ideas this way.
Yeah, speed, accuracy, and ingredient quality all play a role IIRC
Level 6 cooking here. I hope I can still do it. Ill just keep tring till I get it
Yeah I used star ingredients the second time as I forgot to tick it off the first and didn’t get starred on the first but the second one I did and when I used more than one starred ingredients it came out starred
Ok cool. Ill be sure to get stared stuff.
Also this helped as well that way all the cooking isn’t so overwhelming
The items you buy at the store like butter and what not, You can't get them starred can you?
No you can’t get those starred.
Ok, I didn't think so but thank you for the confirmation.
I was prop very close to getting stared last time. Ill use this method, I was close to that method the last time.
I didn’t follow it to a T but it gave me a way so I wouldn’t run out of time or burning the mujinn bahari. That meal just has a lot of ingredients in it.
Oh yeah, I have done it like 5 times successfully just it was not starred for the quest. So ill just keep making it till I get what I need. thanks again
Yep! From what I've been able to gather, version control is messy and QA does not match production.
To whomever came over to my plot, and pulled all my weeds from my weed plot.
What on Earth gave you the impression that I wanted my weeds pulled?
If you ever want to cook with someone to increase your chances of getting a starred recipe, lmk I’m willing to help
What about the state of this plot gives you the impression that I didn't have 9 weeds growing on here intentionally?!
did it happen again? 
It's insane to me that they haven't matured that process after so many years of repeating the same mistake 🥺
Thanks.
I swear, people must be doing this intentionally.
There was no "hi" or message in chat.
They were in and out so fast I didn't even notice they were here.
Also to the conversation from earlier, I finally found a few Starred Spice Sprouts. 🙂
We run retrospective after every sprint and make process changes immediately
Apparently it is somewhat difficult in whatever game engine they're using and migrating would be...tough...so they've just been working with it 💃
🫡 God bless the one Dev they didn't listen to who said 'this is gonna be trouble later'
This sounds like something my 5 year old daughter would do. 🤔
A bad engine explains why cheating is rampent
I mean, it's UE5, isn't it? They aren't using a custom engine
Why would you think some people wouldn't be doing it intentionally? For some people, especially in online games, putting down any kind of restriction or boundary is just an inventation to cross it. It's a drag, but I'm not sure why anyone would expect it not to happen
By intentional, I mean they were intentionally doing it out of malice.
And I say intentionally in that manner because every time I complain about this I'm met with "Maybe they thought they were helping."
In the game world we call that a Troll
Could be their build process they're referring to
You got yourself a Troll my friend. Hopefully they get caught and banned. If that is a thing in this game.
They could be a troll, they could be oblivious and not reading. s6 ought to either change weed plots or give us control over who can weed it.
It annoys me that I have to remember to set my plot to private after every time I invite someone over.
Yeah I assume fixing visitor access is up there in priority for next patch
I gotta say I love what you’ve done there and I’m sorry you’re dealing with a troll!
I love having visitors but I’ve had a few this week pop by and not even say hi. It’s so strange
But even then, I actually want my plot "Open". I like random people coming to visit. I just don't want my damn weeds pulled.
Devils advocate but 99% of the time the plot names don't show up when I'm visiting someone ):
Sorry that´s happening to you!
is it possible to barricade your weed plot that no one can access it? like troll-proofing
Need some visitor permission controls. more controls available to the player so that we can set what vistors can and cannot do. Come on Devs... we need this 🙂
I still don't weed or water anything of strangers cause I don't assume to know what they want happening with their garden tho.
It's just one of those things where we're set up for conflict 😦 I don't think anyone outside discord has a clue about weedplots, and even many here don't. But they're getting popular enough that it needs to be addressed
i like popping over to my sister's house and donating all the wood and stone for her buildings and then vanishing, but thats my sister and I know what she would appreciate 
Honestly, this is the first time hearing about weedplots. can you explain a bit?
I fear they'd be more likely to remove the ability to have weed plots than stop visitors from plucking your weeds 👀
I don't personally use them, but basically there's a cap on how many weeds there can be, so you let all the weeds grow on crops you don't care about so you can afk farm the rest
We are talking about the weeds that grow randomly on plants in the garden plot right?
It's a fairly massive plot. The weed plot is hidden way up top, barred beneath tons of stuff to hide the weeds.
This person didn't say anything in chat, they were in and out before I even notice the weeds were gone. This tells me that they were not on the plot very long.
If they were actually there to visit the plot, I'd expect them to say something chat - though, not everyone does - and for me to at least bump into them while they are running around looking at everything.
Finding my garden plot that fast, to me, screems intent.
your plot name literally says no pick weeds
if weedplots are not intended, s6 should just incease the max number to all. If they are, we need controls on who can weed.
like when you visit someone thats the first thing u see, so the fact they picked it anyway means they definitely did it on purpose
there's no "oh they're helping maybe" here
my server connection has been breaking all day 😦 my chats never go up
Could be intentional then. I legit dont mess w ppls crops bc for all I know they may not be watered to try and get things caught up to other cycles lol
No chat all day for me and my server broke. But my internet did just go out from the weather THINKING about raining soooo
I did mention a few messages prior that plot names rarely show up for me, so it could be happening like that for others. Plot names don't necessarily get seen
Ok, but growing weeds on purpose serves what purpose?
lets them afk and have the crops they care about grow, weed free.
oh i didn't know that, that's good to know 
as far as I'm aware, it's to cheese the gardening mechanic and stop weeds from growing on other plots, so you can grow without weed blockers
Idk how often it happens. Other times mine shows plots by "unknown" instead of the player I'm visiting. 😂 wild wild west out here
Exploit: a software tool designed to take advantage of a flaw in a computer system, typically for malicious purposes such as installing malware.
I don't think you're using the right word there.
I leave weeds on my tomatoes that I'm not picking so weeds don't pop up on other stuff I'm growing so I don't have to come back as often lol
I see, so you intently let 9 weeds grow on one plot. weeds for me have been random so gow do you garentee they will grow on just the one plot?
I wish we had signs we could edit like minecraft or even animal crossing. That could solve a lot of problems
got ya.
you pull them when they grow on the wrong stuff. Personally I think it's a little on the exploity-side but it's a gray area. But either it should be allowed and supported (controls on weed picking) or fixed. Otherwise it's just drama.
Pick the weeds when they're not where you want, leave them when they are.
well on another note, is 9 soil plots the max number of plots you can get?
I question the judgment and opinions of anyone who thinks weed plots is an exploit or bug. That's just simply how the game works.
yes 
It's not intended gardening behavior imo. Evidenced by how it used to break farming cycles all together
They need to up that limit to like 15 plots
i just want flowerbeds 
But like let people do what they want 🤷🏾♀️
I don't like how it looks to have vases and pots all over my grass, let me stick actual flowers into the soil 
I mean what If I want to grow a apple tree orchard! I need more plots! 
Floweeerss
That would be cool, being able to plant your own flower in a flower bed
and how bout some landscaping, your choice of stone and brick. 🙂
Yesss that would be amazing too
And get rid of crop circles
This is what I've resorted to.
is discord just giving a poop emoji icon for that attachment for everyone else?
Discord ain't loading it 😔
weird. I cannot get imgur to upload it either
i'm seeing the same thing on recently posted images in other channels as well, must be something going on
Under Plot Settings you can change your plot to Closed, Friends, or Open on who can visit your plot.
yeah we just need more controls - if you want strangers to be able to visit, but not to pull weeds, that ought to be an option
Agreed
And Friends should not include the server but I'm sure that was just an oopsie
oh man what'd I just miss
How can I add a friend to a party? They're struggling to accept it? And the way I know how to isn't up anymore.
concerning
Amazing 
Yes I agree. Server should be Open option only.
Sucks to have to but have they submitted a ban appeal? I recently learned the one on the website isn't just for in game but Discord too
Sooo I'm looking online to see if I missed any hidden quests and I see a few on Palia Pedia which I wonder if they're really in the game already. Can I start ||it must flow|| already? and all ||Einar's keeper off... || quests?
future content
||(for the keeper quests)||
It Must Flow can be done.
How??
||hodaris kitchen, lvl 2 hodari||
Thanks
I really thought I found all the new ones that are there already lol
Come and try and pull my weeds now.
hai, Please do not @ the Community managers. If you have any questions or concerns please open a ticket with Modmail@abstract lark
are they on a switch? Switch has had issues accepting party invites, if one of you is on a PC, have the PC user accept instead
If you're both switch I'm not too sure 
and I figure ||pebbles for einar triggers when you give him the last pebble for the achievement||? I still don't have the last one, no idea which one I'm missing
ModMail tickets are viewable by CMs, they'll be able to see. If you have an issues, report through ModMail.
I'm so confused that yesterday we were told no retroactive decisions would happen even if someone needed help due to prior mod abuse and today a pillar of the community would be retroactively banned with no appeal
It means that no retroactive decisions will be made about tickets submitted. Meaning... we wouldn't reopen closed tickets, or reverse existing bans/warnings.
It doesn't mean that we won't monitor a ticket submitted about an ongoing issue.
Thank you for that clarification!
Nah, that's one of those conditional quests. You only get it if ||you try to gift Einar a regular stone before gifting him any pebbles||
Oh nooo, so I can't get it anymore?
No, there are many quests like that so I gave up on my completionist dreams long ago
I can't, I have a problem
Why is this “ongoing” when the other server was told to stop??
We cannot discuss moderation actions. You can submit a ticket via ModMail, or if you're not comfortable using that... you can DM me.
Why would palia discord mods have any control over that
Like honest question I don't know how they can police outside activity
I realize that, and I appreciate you trying to defend the mods, I know y’all are new and this is a lot of crap to be dropped into
It was outside until the other server couldn’t stop that’s the sad bit
Other then the great change they made that disallowed mods from being active in those other communities? Isn't that a good way to prevent favoritism
I always love it when we're the calmer channel 
(water trickling.... chimes chiming...)
Is this supposed to be a train?
how i get minig coin?

Get to level 10 mining, then do the weekly accomplishment tasks that you get.
I've got one more week of gifted nitro and by god I'm going to take advantage of it 
thanks did you have it
it kind of looks like the leaves of the top of a tree and a building...or an oven on fire
Thank y'all for braving the storm! Changes are rough and there are some valid concerns going on - we'll get through it. c:
One step at a time. 
Soldier on brother we believe in you 
That's interesting... Could be a train though I think it's just a building pretending to be a train.
thank you for being strong and standing firm!!! hopefully one day all will be understood 
(Might be weird to say but ty for acknowledging that some of the concerns are coming from a valid place as well even if some of it is. Chaos and hellfire /lh)
If i have concerns regarding shepps sharing shepp “nda” knowledge to non shepp users who should i dm about that?
You can DM me, if you feel comfortable doing that. You could also submit through ModMail.
Yes switching to this channel is like walking into a calm tea shop after braving a thunder storm to get in swoosh 
I'm not entirely sure about all the sources of the chaos, but I appreciate that you all are here and talking about everything publically.
quick question/how did i grap a betrfly
Oh naughty
I've perfected my wall.
It's all wardrobes. All F will do is change your clothes now.
LMAOOO
Need to equip a bug belt first and then aim like you're hunting with a bow
Mad scientist vibes. I like it
Things F can do:
- pay respects
-change clothes
Things F will not do so help you:
-pick weeds
now i understand i have 1000 thanks
Are the two wood ones inside each other? Or does it just look like it?
Good luck with your butterfly catching!
Beautiful absolutely beautiful
Thanks bro /are you new?
That would clearly be a modmail ticket so it can be forwarded to S6 for review, or discussion with S6 directly. These discussions are not appropriate here and we have made it clear continuing to do so will result in moderator action so please refrain.
I've been playing since January
A different mod already replied to me but thanks i guess?
Tsk
this is my name if any body want to add
Looks like the top of one of the buildings in central square with trees behind it
So how's all the happy people?
Happy. And coffee.
delightful!! how abt u?
I will add you tomorrow!
anybody know how I trigger the ||disappearing act|| quest?
Utterly exhausted. But it's almost the weekend so there's that.
Doing pretty good. Got back from meeting my niece for the first time.
3 months old and is definitely her father's child. Getting into all the trouble she can in arms reach even before she can crawl.
that's ADORABLE!!!! 
Ugh babies grow SO FAST
So I found it, but I figure the items I need are not in the game yet?? xD
Yea. She's almost doubled her birth length. Sis in law says she's also eating a ton.
Though the doctors say she's still in weight class for her length and age so it's just chubby baby stuff.
they are, the areas for where to find them are marked on ur map.
Coffee!? I knew I was forgetting something....
I'm blind again, sorry haha
You happen to know too how I trigger the || 'disappearing act'|| quest?
||u don't, it doesn't exist in the game, only in the files, pls use the official wiki if u want to know which quests exist, assuming u are looking up quests on paliapedia atm
||
Ahhh okay thanks, yeah I wanted somewhere where I can track if I did it or not that's why 😄
This was the last one tho. Did every single one of them lol
Howdy!! I haven't played much of Palia at all since around October. The last time I played, the meta was cake parties + sell cakes for money. I assume they've since nerfed cake selling, so what is the current best way to make money?
More cakes 
oh is it still cakes? lol
yep, cakes
Yup
wow im honestly shocked to hear that.. and now i am regretting leaving all the servers i had joined specifically for cake parties lol
I haven't had the need to because I did so many pre-nerf
a good portion of those servers stopped for a bit, there are likely new servers now... I haven't had the need to bake cakes since the nerf tho...
ok
Just find a new #1143270926394335282 for new cake party friends
oh! thank you so much :)
It´s a bit of everything now that makes gold! But cakes are still a great way. You can find parties in the channel Khontis just mentioned and i take too much time typing on phone aaah
It's still cakes but they're significantly less profitable
There might also be something in #1135682474324807681 too
Thank you all so very much. I must say that Palia is a little bit hard to get back into after months of inactivity. There's so many new things to do I'm a little bit overwhelmed, but everyone who plays this game is so kind and helpful that its definitely worth it
Absolutely 
Take all the time you need :-)
And if you need help with something, I'm certain you'll find people here.
but without hotpot we have all this free time to play other games 
Have you heard of the critically acclaimed---
I have indeed
I haven't actually been able to play it though because my computer's been broken for a while
although now I'm also yelling at people to play the Alan Wake games so there's that too
I've been playing league again and it makes me want to commit crimes
I miss hotpot... It was peaceful
Why would you do that to yourself Felix
I am in love with a league boy I can't control myself
A Kayn Main.. I pray for your centuries long journey to wellness
Thanks pal, I hate him for being so appealing to my lizard brain
hi i need one to help me in the game
What do you need help with?
To get better tools, you need to level up the skill you use the tools with (so for example, for bow and arrow you need to go hunting). When you level up, there is one person who is the "expert" of this skill. When you go to that person, you can open the store and buy recipes for upgrades. When you bought a recipe, you can craft it at the work station, then you have a better tool.
The people are:
Fishing - Einar (Fishing rod)
Hunting - Hassian (Bow and arrow)
Mining - Hodari (Pickax)
Bug Catching - Auni (Belt and bag)
Foraging - Ashura (Ax)
Cooking - Reth (He doesn't have tools though)
Furniture Crafting - Tish (she doesn't have tools though)
Gardening - Badruu (Watering Can and Hoe)
Does that help?
yes thanks/ and what i do with the tasks
I'm not sure which tasks you mean, the quests at the side of your screen? If you want to, you can do them, you will get a little reward from them.
wich is the task give you rare thing
I miss yacht guy
LMAO. can't even see him post about his yacht more on steam discussions since he got himself banned there...
now where will I get my daily yacht content
Someone drop a wall of nonsense humble bragging about your wealth please
What emote was it?
What emote? Rude emotes have been warnable for a long time
Like, by all means, do share the emote so we're aware of what's warnable!
LOL you still can't even say the forbid c word, that emoji was so bannable haha, just got auto bonked for it

I can be his substitute if you want ||please say no||
Please tell me about your 9600 employeers 😩

there's a c word?
Oh yeah I was here for the circus @tardy obsidian
But if you put a rude emoji you are gonna be warned
New or old mods they'd have bonked you just the same
they're supposed to be funny but some people are terrified of them. often associated with red noses and wigs. does this help? 
oh, wait that word is banned?
That's momma joke ban was thickvicc bless her
the one I referenced is also banned 👀 guess there's two c words
No I meant actually ummm a funny man with a red nose forgot that one was also banned
Palia hates c words for sure
People were using it to be rude to people they disagreed with to the point where it was super obnoxious. So stuff like that and ableist emotes and the like aren't allowed
i mean pick your poison, i guess
Banned buddy 🤭
There's not enough coffee and popcorn for today

🤞 i hope poison isn't banned
also it was companies, not employers, tyvm 
Sorry, don't call it a boat either it's a yahct
Oh yeah and one of the first steam accounts ever, clearly, and the top 1% of them
I'd rather talk about fountain thiefs and people showing up at your house unannounced personally
Funniest part of this claim was that he posted in the palia steam discussion and has a newer axcount then me
right LOL
u talking about this as if the emote wasnt calling me "special" is really rude.
I love seeing people try to rewrite the narrative when it was all public LMAO
all the insults and u have to go the ableism route... how sad.
That's how it is with the ableist crowd really, can't help but swing low
righttt like i screenshotted it to send to modmail we allllll know what happened
Man that's not cool

ignore them tbh they're just trying to bother you
Let's remember that this kind of drama is beneath you, folks 
I don't imagine anything productive or useful will come out of continuing this.
I try lol it's just a little /sighworthy to see similar behavior continue but alas. Alright let's go back to talking about yachts--
🚢
Hey @wraith notch, quick question since you're here. Is there like...an application somewhere for the shepp role? I looked around but couldn't see anything.
Yacht man how they will be missed
lmao

If I recall, not at the moment
but I can get back to you on that
Someone needs to take his place and write daily walls of text filled with strangely specific lies
There's not enough you can do with real money in this game for people with yachts to hang around.
I'd do it but that's too much work for me tbh
shepp program is paused atm, they also cancelled the last recruiting phase
They announced they halted shepp applications right now :-)
I think in a blog post, not 100% sure though.
yeah, if recruitment starts again it'll be news to everyone.
Ye, they did. There's already a lot of shepps and now there's only two CMs so it's like 
i understand and agree but i dont feel like i did anything wrong and now i'm being called disabled as an insult (i mean i am disabled, but being called special as an insult is rude)
i dont think that's drama i think that's bullying :,,) if im honest
When did the yacht leave the harbor? I can't believe I didn't even notice there was more water for the rest of us to sail in again.
like 10 days ago
I accidentally made him leave by correcting someone that he had a yahct not a boat he retracted the yahct club approval for palia and rage quit
Oh man, they were a yacht captain AND owner? I'm so sad to have missed their repartee.
It sure was....something LOL
it was me that you corrected LMAO I think it's funnier that you forgot that though
I’m on a boat 🛥️ so long since I listened to Lonely Island
I knew it was someone important 🥹
As peeps mentioned, applications are closed at the moment, but there will be an announcement for when they do re-open again. You can keep an eye on this page to find it (or at least, this is previously where the application was), and check out what the Shepp Program is all about!! 
https://palia.com/shepp-program
They went immediately to the steam forms and posted a ranted about how toxic the discord is
I replied with 'lol'
To which they replied the most foul toxic rant thst got them banned from the palia steam forms
Then they posted about how terrible the steam mods are and that they wanted to sell their account and got banned again 😖
I can't believe a single "lol" led to the guy getting his whole account banned from steam discussions as a whole
Right? He was suffocating
for real, I stopped coming here for a while cause of him, the vibe was rancid
So funny I didn't even notice. I had to block the big boat because of the bloat. Guess I missed the all the fun when I was away for a while. Bon Voyage! (edited to remove an unwanted letter "d")
I mean I'm also obnoxious but that's by choice 
Lmao very punny
thank you for your service to a greater cause...our sanity
Always happy to help 🫡
Please remember Respect and kindness above all. I understand yall are frustrated with their behavior and how you were treated. That doesnt mean you should stoop to their level.
Thank you
Yo, S6 brosephs, why do you still have arbitrary caps on money/renown/medals? What's the point of them. If i wanna be a greedy gremlin in a game that has 0 trading, i should be allowed to.
I'm more of a treat people how they treat me kinda person
If I had to make a guess, I would suggest it's to make it so new or limited time content requires active engagement. If a new thing comes out and you just have 10 million gold and 300,000 renown piled up, you can just get every time and currency limited thing without effort.
Like i said, completely arbitrary reasons. If they're unable to create engaging events that don't rely entirely on currency, then that's on them.
Every decision in a designed game is arbitrary. That doesn't make it bad, or something anybody is obligated to change.
Having arbitrary caps on currency is ABSOLUTELY a bad design choice.
i love rune factory 4!!! thats like my favorite game EVER (and also has like a 999 million gold cap iirc? or something wild like that lol)
To you, for what you'd like a game like this to have. A game that wants you to be a little more deliberate about when you spend things because you can't just stockpile them forever is interesting to me.
It's also hilarious how the only currency that doesn't have a cap is the paid one. 
ehh, not really? i know what u mean but like, the gold cap is only 3ish times what the most expensive thing is in the game, which is really low, honestly.
this could not be true anymore but then the gold cap would be even less than bc they havent changed the cap but they have introduced more things and potentially higher prices on things
I wasn't saying necessarily that these specific decisions were good, just that "they were arbitrary" is a meaningless criticism because the programmers are the arbiters of every decision.
Why can you only romance an arbitrary subset of people? Why can you only carry an arbitrary amount of stuff at once? Like...they're just all arbitrary choices they made.
Lore =/= mechanics. What are you even trying to pull here?
Inventory space and which NPCs can be engaged with via the romance system aren't mechanics?
It's a good decision for them in hindsight
. They accidentally introduced an exploit to basically print cash once, not hard to believe they might accidentally break the game again so a cap somehow works as a fallback
yeah but like, those arbitrary things are based on other things. like the romancables are based on who's single in town. the inventory slots are based on how many items there are in the game, how many items you're picking up on the ground, how many items are in recipes, etc. the gold cap ought to be based on the price of things.
Like how they "fixed" the oven bug by adding an unstuck feature in stead of actually fixing the bug? 
Hehehehe
at least they fixed the fountain thievery, right? RIGHT? Surely no more furniture is going missing. 
speaking of bugs are the animals they accidentally removed back yet? 😭😭
Nope. I imagine not until next month at least
Incoming lore on how Muujins migrate during springtime
Ah yes a very stable non beta release im sure
does that mean we'll have this bug every year now.... ugh 😭😭😭
don't expect them to be back any time soon, considering they're giving the meat you get from them as a login reward so people can at least get the new NPC. 
From the way things seem, it seems like there won't be any more hotfixes
Has anyone else's game seem to be running slower today, my computer normally runs great but today it seems more choppy
Shhh it's a feature now
the amount of meat and soy sauce they're giving for both being unavailable is HILARIOUSLY tiny considering they'll be gone for the whole month at least, honestly I'd feel insulted and rather have nothing LOL
It's so laughable
I was like "oh okay I guess giving that per day isn't....awful" then I found out it was per week
You're not missing much. it's an NPC that doesn't leave their room anyway. Might as well not exist at all. 
But because of the Nintendo stores release process if it's a client side fix they can't do anything in ba timely manor
Partly they're constrained by being on Switch now, so pushing updates and patches became a lot more time consuming and expensive. But it really is a trivial compensation especially in the context of hundreds or thousands of people being gated on major game progress by needing to make star-quality Muujin Bahari
the last time i opened this game was when she got introduced and i couldnt get past the amount of palium and stuff i needed
Sounds like a console problem to me. holding back PC fixes just because consoles suck is a dumb choice to make.
Same! Even per day it was too low
When I looked at the amount of palium/flow I'd need and the recipes for her quests I was like "nah I'm good"
PC and Switch share servers and play together, they can't be on different builds of the game, without even more things breaking
I think one recipe require 4 soy so it really isn't much we're getting at all
i agree so bad, ppl say stuff like "oh its nintendo's fault" i kinda go .... then why did palia partner w them
Simple, split them up. cross-play has only harmed games, it's never made it better. Not to mention that the game apparently plays like absolute trash on switch. 
i think what paylia is saying is moreso like why did the collab go thru in the first place. and yes, the reason is money, but i honestly do wonder how much money they're making from switch rn vs how many resources they've been putting in
palia is mainly on switch bcs of the cozy game community
they want to reach their targetted audience with that
I play on PC, my partner plays on Switch. If we couldn't play together, we'd probably both not be playing. I expect that's not especially rare.
ig i just kinda wonder how that's working out for them 🤷🏻♀️ but i have no way of knowing either way
also another thing extremely annoying is the decor limit, that is needed so the game somehow runs on switch(and probably old PCs), switch is limiting palia in many ways, sadly
Ohh, for sure. Cross-platform games are always hindered by the lowest quality hardware in the chain. Which is always nintendo hardware, because their consoles are always generations behind the rest.
The next nintendo console will very likely be on-par with PS4 era hardware.
Or mobile, though I hope that's not an issue Palia will have anywhen soon...
mobile "gaming"
I’d love to water my crops from work =3 but that’s not a sacrifice the wider player base is going to like XD
We should be able to install sprinklers at a certain point, at least they could carry you through another couple growth cycles while offline
As someone coming from mobile, I have to disagree with that one, there's a bunch of absolute gems out there on mobile. Though, I doubt either of us would convince the other, to be honest.
A rare breed. Most ppl not watering your plants are usually in it for minmaxing
That's a nice idea! Or just for situations where you're in the world for too long, and thus can't water your garden on time... (Palium and flow wood collections, for example...)
You earn money so passively in this game once you’re started I never feel like I’m missing out too much
Or let me pay Auni to come do it.
Let me reprogram Einar to be a sprinkler statue. 
I specifically have a 100% water retain / weed prevent garden for this reason
I have to admit I'd prefer the sprinkler... Auni already has to carry that mail bag everywhere, delivering all that must take a ton of time... And he dislikes farming... He's still a child, he'll grow up soon enough.
Right now mine is focused on quality and harvest boost, to finish the "harvest 100 star quality [insert item here]" quest... I might change that once I got them all.
Edit: That was meant to be a reply to Salryc Luxx.
Considering there are fewer than 20 people that live in the valley, i doubt the bag is filled with mail. I suspect it's filled with smoke bombs, bug jars, and snacks.
Get Auni a wagon. He deserves it.
I still think we the players are personally responsible for Badruu's financial problems. Considering how much gold we make, and how much bigger his field is, I refuse to believe property taxes are anywhere near that high. It's because we're so thoroughly undercutting his prices that they're always struggling for money.
That'd be great! Or a bike with bags, like the newspaper distributor here has.
We've already bailed their family out of plenty of tax problems. Any and all future financial issues are on their inability to regulate their finances.
Who knows, we aren't paying any taxes but know that he has to. Who knows how high those taxes actually are...
Technically, we do. The income we make from selling probably has the tax deducted already.
Badruu's taxes work differently from that though... He has to deliver parts of his goods, I'd guess he gets the same amount per item as we do though.
The only difference is that he has to pay with goods in stead of money. Or at least partially, considering Deliala still wants a gold bar to pay for taxes. Their entire contract is a convoluted mess that nobody really understands.
I just compare what they charge for produce at their stand versus what we "charge" when we sell it via the drop box, and we're pretty clearly undercutting them a LOT. We don't know how much they've been marking it up though.
To be honest, I'd charge my competitors a lot more than a regular customer...
i miss hot pot i wish there were more games
Hot Pot was so good
I agree, hot pot was fun! I hope it'll return...
Did you already find the running chapaa game machine thing?
oh idk if i know about that... not the one that was a part of the festival ? a diff one ?
Yes! If you already know the underground market, there's a few game machines in there, go near it and it lets you play a game about a running chapaa that has to avoid obstacles. Hot pot is more fun, but the chapaa thing is permanent.
ohhh yeah yeah the lil arcade game
does anyone know if there’s a way you can add paths to your plot?
im hoping they add more arcade games like that and mahjong tile would be cool/ leaderboards would be so fun
There's no actual path block, but you can always be creative! Some use rugs and others use the ravenwood stone thingy
I know some people got really creative with one item. I forget what it was though, it was like... a plate or something? or chopping boards
oooo that sounds adorable!!
Ohh, I could totally see the new wood block chopping board as path pavement...
#🏡│decor message
found a link to one such post
if you put a bunch of the boards next to each other it works well as a paved stone path looking thing
this is a great suggestion! thank you!
Sadly don't have a pic but that's what I've done! It looks so much better than I was expecting and I really enjoyed the grind 
Amazing! I'll keep the recommendation in mind for future paths.
(Also, off-topic but your username is perfect for the mod role.)
Haha thank you! But know it predates modding by years and is not intended to be a reflection on the community 😂 unless you're all actually literal rats, in which case 🪤
Because I think Anner wants to pat you
I meant because "rat catcher" = cat, and mods are called mod cats, I didn't mean to say anything about the community...
... something about rats...? 
Fellow Australian! Hello
Crikey!
Hahah hey!!
dude only one of those shows intent to frame, everything else is just people accusing her of stuff she actually did
like me, calling her transphobic, when she has said she "wouldnt be friends with a they/them"

and it's gone of course
Even one suggest conspiracy and calls into question the legitimacy of all other claims
did one of those pictures show a bunch of folders of proof about what this person was doing that was being critized?
We were supposed to move on from this matter 

one was "proof" how Lex was somehow a bad person when nothing else shows real proof
ok so everyone who's ever been bullied, harassed, or wronged by her has to come out and present to you all the proof for you to believe us?
I wanna see the folder lol
I’m didn’t say that. And I don’t appreciate people putting words into my mouth .
that was a collection of screenshots from someone on YOUR SIDE?
“proof” that was given to asher and asher decided none of it proved lex was transphobic, homophobic, racist etc 
since we’re all discussing this guess i’ll join in
in a public server yeah you can't just say "someone is bad" without proving it
according to whomst....?

okay, what ARE you saying then?
okay well send me the proof ill be the judge 
I'm not on any side I'd like to know the truth as well yall aren't helping your case
💀
dude i saw u said that already
just think abt who you're getting all ur info from and ask for Actual Evidence, For Real. ask why nothing makes sense. that's all i have to urge you to do - think, and ask for actual proof
n that's all i have to say
Yo, folks. How about some icecream since we need to chill out 🍦
I'm asking for proof, i wanna see the google doc folder with what looked to be multiple folders of screenshots lol
I'm a basic fool when it comes to icecream. Vanilla and caramel. But I do love my petit fives in Palia.
Or possibly take this to DMs? This sounds like a personal discussion.
claiming someone is a bigot without evidence is a serious matter and can't just be swept under a rug
I prefer popcorn
🍿

I just made popcorn, I'll share.
but did they not have evidence, what was in those folders?
And there are more proper places to discuss it
now please move on
that didn't happen, so....
Coffee for me lately 
when people keep making half passive aggressive jabs at the einar cult and lex, it’s a public matter now concerning over 100 people so
especially making those claims public multiple times to the point someone was banned like no we can't move on
I'm a member of a few minority groups I'd like to know if there really is a bigot with proof yall are claiming
someone should just drop the recipts so we can judge for ourselves 
Hey yall. This isn’t quite for this channel. If you’re needing more discussion on this matter please contact us or DM @daring cosmos !
Quite.
I advise caution. There is likely identifying info in said folders that could be used to harm people. Sadly people’s identities can get compromised
Or there could be nothing
Nothing matters without context 
I'm just gonna say it is the mods are literally trying to change the subject on something serious and you aren't helping
or just edited screenshots -clarification, I mean doctored
man that would be extreme if someone made folders worth of fake screenshots
We need to cut this off here
Hi guys, respectfully move away from this topic, or we will be issuing mutes. If you have any questions, please reach out to modmail. Thanks!
But there is no way to know. So perhaps err on the side of caution
Let’s love on from the conversation, please. This channel is intended for the direct discussion of the game and not conversation about actions taken against and regarding other people. Thanks!
Leave! Dang, im bad at this!
love on lol
No, love is good. 
I mean. Also love right. 

love time i think ♥️
love on feels like a movie quote
can't love if there's no trust
Possibly err on the side of falsely accusing someone? No thanks.
i wanna say it feels awful not being believed 😇 bye !
"Love On" is my favorite Modest Mouse song
Mandatory Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing classes for all mods?
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what a terrible thing to say
Alright everyone, so how about palcats
Is that a modest mouse song?!
And when all else fails, go play some Palia!
I'm here for Palia stuff. can we reverse the across-the-board cooking nerf?
I miss not losing money to solo cooking
Technically it's "Float On"
But with time I could probably write a Palia version called "Love On"
Bruh I ACED IT.
MAVIS BEACON oh god I feel so old
That name .... A distant memory awakens
Why does Mavis Beacon sound familiar to me, too?
Typing program from the 90s
OHHHHH
They had us on it all the time in computer class in elementary school LOL
what is a mavis bacon 👈 👉help i messed up empjis
Ms Beacon never attended my school, but we did have KEWALA who I have spoilered because they are ahhh quite a jumpscare
I am so glad I have helped others really feel old today ❤️
Those little typing tablets... ooohhhhh....
Mickey and Big Bird taught me typing in the DOS days...but Mavis Beacon drilled me on finding the home row in middle school
I just heard bacon 🥓
Raise your hand if you've been personally victimized by Regina George.
😭 😭
oh my god that is TERRIFYING
I learned to type on an actual typewriter. We had 1 electric in the class. The rest were mechanical.
we did Not need to see this sticker agai n its gonna be givin nightmares!!
I just remember... number munchers? Something like that.
Not accusing anyone. Just saying we aren’t the mods and don’t have all the info. I stated one reason we might not see it. It’s over and done. Cut them some slack. They’re basically parenting a bunch of kids in the middle of tantrums. It’s not easy and no matter what someone will always blame mods and accuse people of being corrupt.
Imagine, then, how horrifying the thing chasing you in that game is 😂 we learned to type real quick
So existing members still good??
yup, I even had that on my computer at home. my mom tried to turn me into a nerd 👀
Edit: Just in case anyone comes searching for me - I can't speak in here anymore due to phone verification (my phone number is already on a different, personal, discord account and discord only allows me to link my phone number to one account). If they remove phone verification I will be back
I will lurk until Steam launch in hopes that it gets removed.
Yesssss lessgooo
I am ethically opposed to munching numbers
I haven't accused anyone of anything. But I'll consider your advise appropriately.
But they're delicious!
🔢
Ty.
It's Pi day, sir. You are obligated. You signed a contract. Here is a fork. 🍴 🥧
I don't think any of my schools taught typing until I was in about 13. Didn't even give us typewriters. I guess they didnt think typing was important until the internet went public.
*well in the mid stages of it going public
I think I'm allergic, actually
I'm still here, as of now, and I'm sure not giving Discord a phone number. And now I'm gone. Later, all. It hasn't been fun. Stay awesome.
I FORGOT TODAY WAS PI DAY
PI day??
Don't worry, it's endlessly repeating
BAHAHA thats amazing
we already had a conversation derailed earlier today by pi day actually
I have had no pie today but I did make 3 types of pies in game today
And here we are again on another round of pi
Pie 
So question. Tried to find my friend in game and can’t. We are both on switch. My refer code didn’t work for them either. Do you have to create character after code? When I created mine it told me I could put a code in later if I didn’t have one at that time.
And how do I find them to get them on my friends list? The search function is nonexistent
its a bit buggy
Any suggestions?
That was my original purpose in coming into discord today lol. Tried to play with my friend and couldn’t
open your inventory > Friends > Manage Friends > search for their full character name, its case sensitive I heard
What a time to come back to the discord lol
No search function on switch
there should be under manage friends?
The plus doesn’t do anything
There is but it can be clunky on Switch
are you sure your cursor on switch is highlighting it? It's very faint so its hard to see
They do need to update that 
Ikr?
they REALLY need to make menu highlighting more visible on switch 
Well I’m really glad they changed the letters/numbers on the crafters cause that was hard to read but yeah… kept making sure it was on manage friends. Lets me see who is on but doesn’t give me a box to type in name. I can only see the server non friends below that. But we are on different servers
let me grab my switch
So can’t see my friend
ok so after clicking on manage friend, you have to press up twice to highlight the search bar
or once, whichever, i had to press up twice cuz I had friend req
Are you clicking plus?
yes you must click plus first
The triangle just collapses or opens but nothing else and plus doesn’t respond
let me record a vid on switch if it helps
Yes pls
Oh! Got it. Good grief. I was hitting the plus on my switch. Not a on the plus
weirdly it does not let me record a vid of me going through the menu :/
It’s ok. Ty for trying. I have the box now
ah yes, sorry, should've clarified, glad it worked out! Yeah the + is really confusing unfortunately
not + on your switch
lol kinda feel silly now
No, don't I thought the exact same thing. It's very confusing
not your fault, for a switch player a + icon seems to be the + button on switch
how does speedygro fertilizer work exactly? I noticed something today that made me think its not working as intended or as how I understand it 
I synced all my crops to grow at the same time and fertilized every soil with speedygro except near the apple tree and blueberries, since they both boost growth and I didn't think speedy gro would affect them
But then I replanted my blueberries (growth boost) and spicy peppers (quality boost) in the opposite patches without thinking
and yet all my potatoes grew at the same time, even the ones I planted near the spicy peppers without speedygro fert
from what i understand: for every 2 days of normal growth, you get an extra day of bonus growth. in this case i'm guessing it already got the boost day the day before. HOWEVER, i've also read that it's bugged and doesn't seem to track properly offline, i.e. you need to be online for 2 consecutive ticks to get the bonus day of growth to trigger
what happend with the muujin, they disappear?
yes it's a bug since the last patch
theyre bugged right now unfortunately
Hope they will come back with steam release...
oh :c that is why jaja it's so sad
ooooh okay
thats good to know
when I asked in my server if anyone had seen any and they said they went extinct I thought I was getting hazed
I thought the same! ajjaja I thought it was part of an event or something like that
i’m just new, so i’ve never actually seen one before!! so when I got quests involving muujin meat I was like “where do I get this meat?!”
I went to bahari to try to find some only to be told they’re EXTINCT
lmao im sorry it was confusing, but at least it's funny now right? 😄
oh it’s hilarious!! imagine me sitting down to grind out some muujin quests and realizing it’s impossible hah 😂 all in good fun, I just turned my energy towards making money and upgrading my house
they are giving a log in gift of muujin meat, but it probably wont be enough to finish the quest
I actually had a couple of quests with it so it was enough for one but not the other!
at least you got one in 😄
There’s another quest that needs mujinn meat? 🧐
it may have not been a quest as much as one of the villagers asking me for it!
Ahh. I will know soon which one as I’m trying to steadily level every one up. 😆
Haha! It was definitely Reth and possibly Siifu?
if you need more, you can request some! I check every so often to distribute some muujin rations to my server, since I hoarded way too much before the mass extinction
maybe someone on your server is willing to share as well
is there not channel where we can share out palia streams in
No promo in here friendo
yes i see that and its prob why most content creators are not covering palia there would be more if there was a channel where they could share palia only streams this about only discord i am in where there isnt a channel where content creators can stream the game for the devs
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were starred starstones nerfed? I usually get at least 1 each bahari run, but havent seen a single one in hours
not sure I remember when they added it I got a lot of them as well and now nothing for days
I think I gotten one in an entire week
I STILL haven't gotten one
I get them sometimes, but rarely. Maybe one every completely filled bag? And a few non-starred ones?
It also depends on which stuff I mine, I think. In Kilima, I find them far more easily...
anyone else cant pick up stuff?
nevermind, apparently going back to your plot fixes the bug
Same here. Its been days since i got one. Tbh I can't really remember when it was the last time i got one but it might have been before the last update
Just this week I've found at least one star starstone of every type - except a starred emerald, my white whale - and multiples of all others including rubies this week. It's all RNG and sometimes it's in a generous mood, sometimes not. Can be very frustrating.
i'm trying for starred raspberry beetle and i'm about to cry 😭
That was the last bug I needed to complete my Master Bug accomplishment so I know what you're going through! I finally found it a few weeks ago. I had to dedicate time just to look for it and ran around the farm with a buzzy jar soooo many times. Not sure how many days it took and Buzzy Jars used, but I eventually snagged one. The star Raspberry Beetle was soooo much harder to catch than any of the epic star bugs for me. Keep at it, you'll get it! The only suggestion I can offer to help is to clear out a bunch of the common beetles first, wait a few minutes, and then pop the Buzzy Jar. By doing so you're opening up space for Rasp Beetle to spawn.
thank you, i needed the pep talk (and the confirmation it actually did exist in game lol)!!
Ok... I will camp there and try your method. I need popcorn...
I have had such a busy work week but it’s finally Friday and I can’t wait to just relax with some Palia all weekend
good luck to those of you working on completing bug and fish accomplishments - it can be a painfully RNG process.



