#🐟│fishing-mining
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PSA for catching the Ancient Fish:
- Hand in all the bundles for Vault of the Waves to release the fish into the Kilima Lake waters.
- Fish between 3 am and 9 pm.
- Prioritize fishing hotspots at Kilima Village Fairgrounds which has a higher chance of spawning the Ancient Fish
- Have the Fisherman's Brew buff up
- Use Safe Zone Size Booster on your rod, or a Hook Time Booster. (which you got as reward from the bundles) Respect the Brew buff and the booster, because you don't like to lose it when you hook it.
Thank you! Went to the fairgrounds and got a giant kalimantan stingray!
is there a way to get the fish to come down when its jumping? this 1 fish keeps jumping for so long that i cant catch it
Did you release reeling the fish in
you just have to wait for it to not be jumping if its doing it a lot hold down mouse in small increments only
That’s the problem then
a bit of a classic lesson to learn
ty both lol, was so baffled that it was legit just flying ;-;
Should be easier now then😄
ahahaha
I do not believe the fairgrounds have a higher chance I think people just coincidentally got lucky there 
the fairgrounds and killima lake/coast are like
connected
can someone tell me if the starred emerald and jasper actually exist? lmao
theyre both epic rarity so you're gonna have a tough time lol
so this is like the ruby and amethyst of kilima lol
yeahhh lol
the collection grows
So is the tunnel to Bahari Bay all that we are getting with the next update (as far as mining is concerned) ??? I was hoping they would fix the problem with palium, I still not sure how they think they made it any better, it is worse if anything.
there's a problem with palium ?
Yes, all the static nodes were removed a while back and it is a real pain to find any palium at all, unless you get lucky enough to get on a dead server for a while. Plus less people are calling it out lately, so I can go on for an hour farming it and come back with a few ores.
What we need is a flow infused palium nodes mining event, we have plenty of empty mines now and we could have it at 12PM Noon, to balance out the flow tree groves.
Yesterday I couldn't fish quietly because people were calling every tiny bit of palium, it was really annoying
If palium is mined, it respawns immediately. So even in a server with plenty of people it's still ok
When you go from farming a couple of hundred ores an hour to less than 20, we have an issue.
Maybe that was way too much. I can't really compare as I wasn't playing then. But I get enough for my needs so far. Even with the high end furniture
supposedly we're getting 250+ bug fixes on the 27th, so we'll just have to wait and see what those cover
Luckily I have everything done, even with the bugs still going, but I still need/want the two star quality gems I have left, and of course it is from palium. It would have been way easier when it was static. At least you all don't have to suffer the lack of fishing nodes. Before you could go across the entire bahari coastline and not find a single node to fish.
I've come back to the game and thought the palium node rate was supposed to increase? I have been searching for nodes even where listed and nothing yesterday and today.
No its not increased - It's just spawning where Iron spawns
I can confirm they do exist
only 8 palium spawn at a time
3 small, 3 medium, 2 large
It is actually 3 large, 3 medium, and 2 small
oop thanks got it mixed up
actually i think "223 nodes in Bahari, and at same time there could be 3 small, 3 medium, 2 large palium nodes"
is what i copy paste from Adain so I think that's right yeah
I just was reading it wrong
just double checking this info before i use glow worms here, can the void ray be caught here?
Thankfully some nice people called out 2 large nodes today that I was able to get some 😄
void ray only in pavel mines
thank you, that's what i thought.
I thought that paliamaps showed that it can be caught in that cave in Phoenix Falls?
HMM ill check, would be weird
Wait not palia maps but|| paliapedia||
this is from the wiki so i wasn't 100% sure how accurate the info was, because the wiki page also only lists the location as bahari, but has this map included
doesnt show up on the void ray page
nah you're completely fine
its all good, sometimes the game is complicated
sometimes it's also varied on how it's feeling lately 
But I will go try to catch the void ray in there now
if you do, let me know! i'm keeping it in my bahari tab for now but i'm in kilima for awhile catching so the more fish i can get in kilima the better!
I will let you know
It should be catchable there, can't see why the void ray would be an exception. But I guess we'll know for sure soon
for the Void Ray Star , you have too fish and live in the cave! good luck
Yeah no hotspots down here
If @lost thunder says it, then I'm inclined to believe it. I went there when my achievement released the Ancient Fish and got it at 2nd cast.
the water is the same though
that's like saying you'd have better chances on the northern side of the coast vs the south
it's the same water, just RNG coincidence you got it quickly in fairgrounds
I've had more encounters of the ancient fish in the maji market than outside, I was able to get 3 ancient fish this maji market
Getting there .. Last of the starred fish to get 
RNG coincidence 
at a certain number of coincidences, a trend can show
That is Sen trying to explain RNG
well up to you I guess, to each their own! 
take it as you will
It is hard to dertermine because while RNG is RNG, because it is based on a game algorithm there could be a pattern that could be formed after many occurrences
I do think it’s about the same rng too
At least that is how I see it
Buuut i got mine at the market too eheh
I'll trust Adain's ||data mining|| on this one 
However I still think the percent chance is the same no matter which place you fish
I mean, Sen ur not rly explaining why it's definitely not a higher chance. I'm just observing various different findings from players on catching it rather quickly at the fairgrounds.
because the data shows it's no different 
you have data? Show me
against TOS 
suuuuure
I've always wondered if your level has a factor on the RNG %age. I've noticed as I've leveled that I've got more of a different fish that I rarely got before. Coincidence? Perhaps. But food for thought 
I personally didn't experience a difference
I think it just could be perception because maybe those people fish more in the Fairgrounds than Kilima itself, but I will also have to see for myself
Well if it's any indication, the fairgrounds have just 3 hotspots at a time afaik, so it's not as farmable as outside
same water type, same odds, rng is rng
Buter my butt and call me biscuit, Pailapedia jesus said I was wrong.
okay so something very interesting happened
caught one at fairgrounds?
it's in the data, both fairgrounds and kilima shares the same water type and fishing loot tables are connected to water types
this I really don't know, curious about that as well
Well apparently nothing has an effect on RNG% since loot tables are connected to water types

but it doesn't stop the game code from tweaking those values based on something else 🙂
My thoughts this entire time
Yeah but what about my video we should talk about that
I'd like to think that the devs have better things to do than manually tweaking fishing chances per zone while they already have a system in place for that
Hey I'm just saying, I'm seeing a significant amount of fairgrounds catches for Ancient Fish
fair
Because I didnt know you could catch the Ancient Fish in the Phoenix Falls temple
Even all the websites dont show that you can catch the fish there
That is interesting, but despite it being categorised as a Kilima Lake fish. It is an ancient fish, only makes sense that it can be found in an ancient river 
ofc you can
Oh well now dont I look silly
lower chance tho
they've all escaped out into Kilima Lake 
Oh it just doesnt have a picture
I should really work on this site a bit more, really hard to see things
Nah it is the same with the info that Sen provided me with. I just miss the little details
is that for void ray?
Ancient Fish
ah okay, thanks! sorry got a lil confused
NW, void ray is just caught in caves at any time of day with glow worm. Just get a full stack of glow worms, some fisherman's brews and patiently fish. Maybe you'll need another stack of glow worms, but normally it should do the trick
You'll need a void ray for bundles too, so in case that you're fishing for your personal fish tank collection, also fill the time with casting your line when there's no hotspots around in case you can catch a non-starred one for the bundle
Current Trident Aquarium Setup - one for each prong, one for the connecting rooms and one for the museum room ( 1 of each )
nah i'm doing the bundles actually! i put them off for way too long lol
Wow that's quite the fish temple. Meanwhile I crammed them all into a single room 
Overview of the whole building
My humble cosy aquarium ^^
looks pretty cool 🙂
which floor tile is that ?
Let me check, it's a new one I got.
Golden Ripple Tile Floor - https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Golden_Ripple_Tile_Floor
Thank you, I need too check if I own it!
I bought 🙂
another question for you guys -- when doing the bait save trick, will it always be the same fish if you don't pull up and recast or am i just coincidentally seeing the same one?
If you dont pull the rod out of the water then yes it will always be the same fish
But I use that information to my advantage by letting the fish swim away everytime
Then if I want the fish I wait for it to come back
That way I dont accidently mistime it
that is pretty smart! thank you 
Youre welcome
Also in case you are wondering it does keep the star quality if you fish in the Hotspots
that is superb information, thank you!!
You are welcome
does anyone farm palium for profit? jw or do you saveit all lol
i save mine currently as i need it more for crafting furniture
I save all 1000 bars of mine
Is it possible for a player to have a glitch where they don't get a fish while others do? XD
My friend and I went fishing for Giant Goldfish and they got 2 while I have gotten none. And I've gone through 300 glow worms. XD
Unfortunately that’s just bad luck
nuts. ah well. at least all the fish I caught got me 14,000 gold. XD
FINALLY . A starred ruby. After weeks of mining.
Yaaaay that’s so nice :D
I had a feeling on my way to the pal too, I was like, “this is the one 😁”
Lol
The pal smelled like ruby ahahah 
LMAO
X)))))
I could smell that ruby a million miles away 😂
Damn thats some powerful nostrils 
Personally I’m still waiting for this dum***** emerald, crying sobbing throwing up rn T T
Oof that was a toughie. I only hve one and it took forever
sending my starred ruby luck your way

Thamkyou sm ill put it on good use T T 
(I wanted to answer the second message let’s ignore my failed attempt shall we
)
Congrats 😄
Tysm!
whats the best fish/spot to level fishing?
Ive now got all the fish and feel abit lost to level haha.
level 25 currently.
omg Subira's weekly Loved want is a UNICORN FISH wtf. Not sure her level 4 friendship is worth that lol
AFAIK the starred spots with glow worms are the most XP. I looked over the fishing lists to see if I could identify which place was most profitable fishing Spots w Glow Worms and I think it's Ponds. But running btwn the two Bahari ponds (hassian and hodari) is more annoying than running the Coast imo
Tamala’s lvl 4 romance quest was a rip off. High maintenance, she asked for a GOLD BAR
oh that, whatever, that was one of her liked requests for me, which I ignored
I think she must know I hate her for drafting me as an informant
I couldn’t ignore it as it was her lvl 4 romance quest
Hahaha, just don’t do it. I got her with mostly talking
Thanks!
You reckon bahari coast over the run for kilima lake all along from the lake around to the west?
Could just sit in the cave hot spots appear quickly and the epic/rare find aren't locked to time of day
Nice idea
Speaking of which. PSA. If you have a starred void ray and need a normal one for the door bundles
I have 2 spare I can send out to people
I honestly don't know if XP is associated with price, but the average uncommon/rare fish on B Coast sell for more than K Lake so if you're down for a fishing session and the Bahari travel time isn't an issue, I'd head to coast. But mostly I choose by Incidental Foraging (do I need clay or lotus: Lake, do I want oysters: coast)
also shoutout for setting up a 4 campfire configuration: it won't increase your profits by much but a serious fishing trip can net you like 1/3 a cooking level from grilling
Exp is base on rarity of fish I'm pretty sure, and maybe star quality
and bonus for a perfect catch afaik
but there's no reason why 2 rare fish should give exactly the same xp either, not sure if there is data on this
Now it is my turn to maybe get one today
Any one that has a secret to getting star quality fo some of the rare fish I am all ears. The number of glow worms I have gone through trying to get the Ancient Fish, Giant Goldfish and long nosed unicorn fish is insane. running from node to node is insane.
There is a fishing trick
When the fish pops up to bite on the bobber let it swim away
If you want the fish then leave the bobber in the water and wait for it to come back
If you dont want it, then when it swims away pull the bobber out of the water and move along
Good to know. slow on the mouse button. thanbks.
Youre welcome
This trick is very similar to the normal saving worms trick but is changed because the hotspot fish swim away faster
And because it doesnt use worms and you arent wasting time reeling in fish you dont want, you are faster and use a lot less worms
Do you have a favorite fishing buff. for some it seems the speed is the best options and others the size boost
Fisherman's brew and the speed reduction are good
But if you are having trouble reeling in harder fish then I would say fisherman's brew, sushi, and the health recovery hook
Thanks again.
These spawn times are not accurate.
What do you mean ? The Morning/Day/Evening/Night info I got from the wiki site. I may have miscopied a few, so which ones are wrong ? I use the spreadsheet to decide which fish I am going for depending on where I am and what time of day it is when I am on a fishing expedition.
Just checked the list and they're the same times on the wiki site.
Someone earlier asked what a good place to level fishing is. I have spent some time in Pavel mine for a few reasons (started during Maji Market). It's easy to travel board there to Behari, grab mining pick and run to through the stone wall/gate/opening to the mine-- pick up a few nodes inside the mine/Palium does spawn there. Three fishing pools spawn regularly, people stop by often and you can get the fishing buff, drink the brew, use fish stew for extra buff (thinkt hat's what it's called), and glow worm your arse off. You also have chance of catching the void ray-- if you don't wanna run up and down coast searching for hot spots. I've fished up quite a bit of makeshift there as well. I'm sure there are people with better spots- I'm Lvl 170+ in fishing and that, as well as Beachcomber area- light house to the left, is a nice lil' spot- good to level and make $.
I also like to fish in the Mines because I do a lot of Palium mining so a little break to fish is always nice
And now I have 8 starred Void rays
How hard is it to find platinum ore?
It's impossilbe. There isn't any in-game. If you mean Palium, not hard. Palium has blue bits and is found in Bahari Bay. People will sometimes call out where to help others find it.
It's fine, I sometimes see people calling paladium nodes too 🙂
Paladium 😭😭
I'm still going to laugh. I'll help too, but there will be laughing.
Yes!! I hope so.
Sending all the luck 
Has a pretty successful go of it fishing this weekend 
I finally got that gold star emerald today. Now to start on getting the Bahari Bay gold star gems. sigh.
this giant goldfish is going to be the death of me
for me it was worst the fairy carp
What’s the best thing to feed your glow worms to maximize worm production
starish apple jams
I have literally only seen it once .. the one and only time I did, it went into a bundle. Have yet to see one again
My mother on the other had, got about 10 in a week 
i need it for the bundle 😭
all the other rare fish ive got in a couple goes, ive been looking for this nonstop and nothing
ah good luck, I tried at both the home pond and mirror pond and took bucket loads of glow worms 
I see my enemy in the middle, the ancient fish
Try the pond behind the family farm, that's where I got it, on first few tries too, I was ready to spend a lot more time since everyone said it takes time
yeah I tried there too .. but most of the time there isn't any sparkle pools there so I move on to the next spot - now after a starred one 
Yeah it's small, got a 2 star pools 3 at best, maybe go back and forth until some pop, or just whenever you pass and see it try
bahari ponds (by hodari's and then by hideaway) tend to have the most bubbles that refresh pretty quick compared to in kilima. i got a star goldfish in hideaway pond but lost it bc of latency/lag :(
I got one of mine in the pond by Hodari's house, one at Hideaway pond, one at the pond South of Tamala's house and 9 unstarred ones at the pond at Leafhopper hills by the family farm
But it does take a bit
What are some tips for fishing uncommon fish? I’m level 9, have exquisite rod, and I’m using worms (glow and normal) but have only gotten 1
rod/bait doesnt matter, you just have to get lucky
Dang hahaha guess I’m unlucky
u have to fish a 25 o clock after eating sushi fish stew and drink fish brew. THEN u gotta sing the chef song from the little mermaid when ur fishing level is 69
Where are oily anchovies?
bahari rivers with worms
This uncommon fish quest is truly the hardest I’ve ever done
Ok. How do I use worms? I’ve had regular worms but can’t attach them?
On Switch, equip your fishing rod and then press X.
I don't play on PC so I don't know how they do it.
I’m on switch too
Just a note "If I can Drown I can Fish"
pc is right click
What is this for? https://paliapedia.com/item/fishingattach-safezonesize (i.e., what is the "safe zone" and why do I want it boosted?)
Bigger brackets so it’s easier to keep the fish between that
It’s a great booster for some fish
equip rod (take it out). right click anywhere. A menu with your worm options should show. Same for arrows and smoke bombs with their respective equipment.
also you can click A? (switch) on a bait in your hotbar to change bait types (but you need the X popup to unequip baits for NO Worm fishing)
Same. I essentially wiped out the scarlet koi population to get one. Same for the stone/blobfish population trying to get a void ray🥲
Einar is getting a lot of business from me lol
Omg the moment after I typed that I got my void ray!😂
lady luck if you're watching this chat pls give me goldfish ill love you 5ever
May RNGesus bless you
I GOT IT
Congrats
Heyy, is there like higher chances of star stones in copper/iron or nothing like that ?
theres lower rarity ones in copper and iron so those are more likely (quartz in copper and garnet in iron)
Now you have to love them 5ever
how do i improve my chances of getting rare fish? im fishing with the exquisite rod and glow worms but didnt know if using diferrent hooks would improve my chances
there are rare fish for either type of bait
it's pretty balanced by bait and location to have similar amounts of rare and epic fish
the rays are eluding me and im sick of getting enchanted pupfish or beluga sturgeons
well the giant kilima ray is indeed glow worms during Morning, Day, Evening
all you can do is keep trying
to save sanity when looking for rare fish i usually recast to not use worms or stress catching every fish, but others are determined to make money looking for rare fish to 2 birds 1 stone it so to speak
but i just got angry and bored lol so i prefer recasting
the https://palia.wiki.gg website isnt accurate - try paliapedia.com !
its a lot more accurate when it comes to spawn times!
https://paliapedia.com/de/now this link helped me a lot.
wikipedia is how the game intended it
the other one is how the game is behaving 
see i'm confused cause paliapedia says the giant ray can be caught during rainy weather..... but it doesnt rain
for example the Ancient Fish only spawns from 3am-6pm not "Any Time" as the palia wiki says
It's intended to be all day / any time of day
it's just for some reason it isn't at the moment
If the wiki is wrong, it needs to be reported to them, as that is the official source, from in game information - if the game is bugged, they need to know that, so either way, they need to be told so it can be investigated.
the wiki is only wrong because they can't data mine 
can't or won't?
cant
the "rainy weather" is from 3am - 9am if I remember correctly, check this website for ACCURATE spawns: https://paliapedia.com/now
they will only be "approved" "officially" if they do not data mine
datamining is against Palia's TOS if i recall, in some shape or form
true, should be reported to the owner of this website xD
haha yeah paliapedia is where i saw the rainy weather note
Which is S6 🙂
yeah, thats why I check "Palia Now"
the wiki is "official" so they are usually written with what is intended
granted if they were given proof, they could add a note that it is bugged to not show up at night or something 
Yep, in the Terms/EULA
You may not use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, “mines,” or otherwise collects information from or through the Game, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by the Game to store information about a character or the game environment; provided, however, that we may, at our sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third-party user interfaces.
Is it also true in the temple of the waves? It can be fished there and time doesn't make a difference in caves normally
supposedly
thanks, but that's weird, I don't see that when I go on the site
it's just small and doesnt have a picture
yes just found it, it's well hidden (in plain sight)
hahaha
i will
I found it in the Water Temple
I didnt reel it in because I was trying a challenge but I saw it
I also posted a video of it too here
However I caught mine during the Day
that's a system which is not in-game yet, I should probaby remove that note
Clay is on the Coast of Kilima
Is there any consolidated info on the star quality star stone prices? Appreciate any info!
at last! 
Just the prices?
Because the prices are just half of the original price added to the original
So 50% extra

Are any items better to get glowworms than others?
ok!
The Ruby is my bane but I still want it
i still can't believe you haven't gotten it yet... 
Thanks!
Can anyone confirm if being in a party gives you better Starstone droprate?
I've confirmed it myself but i wanna discard that it was just luck xD
And the person in party with me, too
Looks like I'm grinding one worm per hour until I get a better recipe I guess I should really get that lucky fish recipe
collecting waterlogged chests like they're popmart blind boxes 
Yes me too. I barely get one Ruby a day and I mine for almost 6 hours a day
I also hit mining level 200 yesterday
So it is not for a lack of trying
I might try this too
it'd be easier to simply get more worm machines than waste all those lucky fish ingredients and effort on worms. I mean, imo
There is this:
pins in this channel also list that info, just in a not as clean graphic
Oh RNG gods, you were kind enough to give me the Fish Stew Recipe. Please, please let me have a Unicorn Fish as well.
Yup, saw it.. but was looking for one that has the prices of the ⭐ Quality ones
well i suppose not the starred versions, since they are new
haven't been around long and honestly wouldnt be surprised if the value was nerfed 
they nerfed starstones like 3 times 
well in reality you'd call it something more akin to "balancing"
rather than nerfing
ruby used to be 8k, very unbalanced, very good money back then 
Yes, I was around before the first nerfing, good times
Bdw, so for farming as we gain higher levels it increases the chance of ⭐ quality produce, what's it for mining ?
Also hodari said najuma does the skill challenges, but i spoke to her n nothing came up, where do we get the challenges ?
Maybe it's a higher chance for gems and silver/gold ore?
If you mean the weekly things for medals, you don't need to get them from anyone. As long as you are at least lv10 in a skill they will appear in your accomplishments tab and payout automatically.
I’ve heard people having problems getting rubies and here I am sitting at home with 4 rubies and 1 stared ruby
I finally caught that darn star swordfin eel today. It was the last star fish I needed, and was surprisingly the hardest for me catch.
Do the hook time buff work? Does it really make you catch harder fish to reel in (unicorn) easier?
I'm living proof that you don't need anything, still feeling good about it lol but probably helps, everyone says use all boosts for easier catching
Yeah the buffs make it easier especially the major safe zone size or as some say the health booster
I like what you did with that floor lamp near the fireplace, because the fireplace itself has just fake lighting. This way it looks lovely.
I had a few rare shrine fish I was gonna submit and Elouisa took them 
I thought she would give them back like Tish and her furniture quest
Uh, never think that they will give them back. I first submit anything and then give what they need
Lesson learned the hard way
They better not nerf gems again, ill lose thousands in my stocks 😂
does anyone know the best early game place for fishing? I only have no bait/a few worms and a fine rod
I mean fishing for money
I like running between the 3 river “ponds” in the started town, they usually spawn new pools of fish often enough
thanks! I'll try it out :) I'm saving up to get the big backpack
i am cursing this damn unicorn fish
May the RNG gods bless you 
Caught ancient and unicorn fish with no boosters. It's possible.
the damn unicorn fish is haunting me I sweaaaar I've lost it three times now 
You'll get it.
I just need one for the bundle and I'm never going to fish there ever again
I have yet to even SEE a unicorn fish....I've spent at least 5 Palia days from 6-6 fishing, never even saw one...all I ever get is sea bass, yellow fin, the occasional cactus moray and if I'm really lucky 1-2 blue spotted rays...that's it...I'm about to simply give up on that bundle....and I tried different locations along the coast
is there like a best way to get all the makeshift items or is it really just by chance
Yeah took me a while to find my first one as well but they move REALLY fast especially if it's quality so they're very easy to lose... Most of my friends were lucky enough to get it on their second try while I'm being haunted by them 
where are you finding them? i’ve been going up and down that whole coast for two weeks now
I heard the best place is in the south, that's where I got it, tried other places didn't even show up
South of the map, just above that sand part on map
My luck is by the lighthouse area by beachcomb cave fast travel lol
newby question; is this a lake or a river?? i cant seem to find the diffrence in palia x') in the small streems i can't fish and i thought that was a river lol
i'm looking for a rainbow trout :3
so this is the correct place to find a rainbow trout yeh? and no bait ?
cus all i can find is striped dace x')
Hi there! My first plot/only plot I'm working on at the moment is pretty much Makeshift and now Maji Market. I'm at fishing level 178. I've done a bit of reading online and have a bit of experience... fishing with glow worms in Bahari works for me. My favorite spots are just beside the Lighthouse/Beachcomber- I don't run the coast, I'm too lazy. My other spot is Pavel mines- again, glow worms. I go out with about 100+ at a time, use Fish Stew (easy to make- use the starred fish you catch in the mine), and the Brew you make on the firepit. People often come by as they are mining and will fish a bit, giving you a chance of the buff too. Three fishing pools spawn pretty regularly- you can also get there easily-- yesterday a massive palium spawn in there- walked away with 33 during the fishing session, 7 crates-- roughly 1 1/2 hours, plus some other gems. Maji market is also good- for similar reasons- hope this helps, happy makeshift hunting! I'm addicted--- furniture making is level 44, I hve a full house of makeshift everything, and am growing my fishing tent camp-- I think I have something like 15 tents atm.
To answer your question- chance
And stubbornous, something good to listen to--- and I think I was level 130 before I got the Makeshift achievement- I'm sure others got it quicker- RNG
thank you so much!!! someone else replied with this as well #🏡│decor message
Oh you're welcome, my plot is currently a bit of a mess as I am going through a growth/redesign spurt- if you like the Makeshift, add me in game, and if you see my plot open feel free to visit- I'm getting better at not being so startled at company!
okay thank u so much!!
Caught the unicorn fish right off the dock behind the lighthouse around 3:45 pm. Took about a week of going from 12 noon to 6pm. May be different for others. I've yet to get the starred, fish every once in a while in the pools only to try for starred.
I've been at it a while, and I'm still missing 3 pieces and the fourth I have multiple times but it won't tick off. So my makeshift is bugged, again. 😦
i just got the rainbow trout wohoooo ^^
You're in the right place,just takes time
is it best to cook fish and then sell it or just sell it raw?
Anyone up for void ray fishing?
i just sell the extras myself but some cook them all
but a lot of them, especially rarer ones, only increase the profit margin enough to consider it worth it if the grilled fish is starred
can u team up for that? how ? i'm kinda new but i am looking for it :p
@grim scarab Just show up at the same spot, fishign together will give you a buff. You can friend them/server sync once you are at the spot, join a party if you want/don't need to-- 🙂 That's a cool thing about the game, your proximity to someone/doing the same thing+good vibes and buffs 🙂
what difference does the star quality fisherman’s brew make?
FINALLY GOT THE UNICORN FISH AHHHHH
CONGRATS!!!!!
Anywhere on the coast of Bahari. Hotspots increase your chances to hook one too
Congratulations! its not easy!
It really isn't this was the fourth one I've seen
I would've rage quit if I didn't get it again LMAO
lOL I understand!! don't ask how many times I've lost the ancient fish
yeah that sounds worse LOL
Am I imagining things?… It seems like casting into the fishing pools not only guarantees a caught fish will be starred but also increases the chances of getting rare fish. Is this true or am I just imagining it?
Certain harder to hook fish have higher catch rates in Hotspots
So no you are not imagining things
lost an ancient fish…….
what attachments/meals/brew etc do yall recommend to help with getting the ancient fish
i heard complaining works. this is me officially complaining about void ray
Fishermans brew, sushi, sashimi, fish stew, major size zone booster or rod health booster from Einar and praying/cursing
I lost that one 7 times, such an annoying fish
Yeah me too!
i literally did the same with with the flametongue and caught it 5 mins later 😭
I think the energised piranha has gone extinct on this server, I’ve been fishing for ages and have caught nine radiant sunfish but no energised piranha 😂😂
Ohhh at last!!
Sixty two fish before finally getting a star energised piranha today lol madness
Now we try for star fairy carp and giant goldfish….
I decided to go after all star fish after I got everything for the temple. I tried to get the hardest first starting with ancient. I got very lucky and got star ancient first try, then got another going after giant stingray. The swordfin eel was the most troublesome for me and the last one I needed, finally got it yesterday
congrats!
TY, I was so happy to get them all. It wasn't easy but didn't really take as long as I thought. The unicorn gave me lots of problems too. I had 2 star ones get away when I was just going after one for the temple before I was even trying for star ones
same for me, some epic ones were suprisingly easy but I let two ancient fish get away. indeed didnt take as long as i thought it would either
Trust me everyone says to use the other hooks but if you want a fool proof way to catch a fish it is
Fisherman's Brew
Sushi
Rod Health Recovery
Fairy Carp evades me
I got very lucky with the Fairy Carp
The one that gave me a lot of trouble was the Paddlefish
I have seen the unicorn twice but missed it both times. I got an unstarred one for the bundle luckily.
That one is renown for being a pain
But just fish in the bubbles for a slightly higher chance and hope for the best
I won’t bother fishing for it without buying the size increase.
You dont really need the size increase just the Fisherman's brew
The size hook doesnt make enough of a difference when using the brew and is a waste in my opinion
I forgot about the brew
if only i could get the mfingg SUSHI :’)
Sushi doesn’t love me either
i have the sashimi but isn’t it like ….. lame or something
I think it does the same as sushi just not as much
But it should be a good subsitute until you have sushi
Does the distance of your cast have any affect on what you catch
nope, its mostly for throwing it out far enough for it to count or aiming for a hotspot
omg that really worked
Has anyone been able to catch a flametongue ray? And if so how??? Bcuz at this point I’m ready to just dive in the water and grab it myself 
Im trying to get all my ⭐ collection but they keep getting away sadly... I figured ill wait till after the update since my renown is capped.
flametongue is uncommon but every time ive got it it happened within the same play session 
RNG be RNG
Right now, me and RNG have beef
what is RNG ?
Random Number Generator or Generated
It pretty much means something is random but based on computer algorithms
Ohhh I see
There are upsides to RNG like certain hard tasks being made easy because of luck
Then there are the downsides of things being a lot harder because you are just not fortunate enough to get what you are after
No matter how much effort you put in to something sometimes you wont get it
thats for sure!
People talk about fishing being hard but this Ruby will be the death of me
Oh I know! I've not gotten a Ruby either
Yes but after the amount of palium I have mined you would have thought I would have a starred one by now
i didn't find fishing that hard but i also didn't stress it and try to burst through it, most of it was natural via long term playing
I was like that with fishing for days on end trying too get the one I wanted ........ I found fishing hard when I started playing now I love it
I have been mining so much that I go through the mines and take a fishing. Now I have 10 starred Void rays
I am also level 206 in mining
I also like fishing
I also have over 1200 bars of palium
Just for a red rock and a little star next to it
maybe it the chase that is the best part ?
Maybe but not after this long
The chase would be worth it if some people didnt get so quick because then it feels like I am just massively unlucky
Yeah I hear you that -good point
heck I am still trying too get all Einar's lost pebbles , I am missing the rare drop ones .found all the others
I happen to be both lucky and unlucky at the same time
Because I have 5 starred Amethyst but not a starred Ruby
Also when I was looking for pearls for supreme bombs, I was only getting green pearls
Nice I don't have the Amethyst - I am not actively looking for the gems either so I am fine when i get them I get them - I won't sweat it like the fishing lol
This is what I have so far
like how the garnets are overflowing and fallen to the ground
That is a nice touch lol
what's the regeneration rate for copper ore?
i would say somewhat fast? i know when i start from one side of the map and make a large circle around, the ones at the start are already starting to spawn back in
. i don't have enough storage space for it all...
what tables are those? They look really nice for gem displays 👀
the chic dining table
tyty!
Put the rocks in the smelter or glass furnace
thats what ive been doing LOL
that, and crafting furniture
Yeah you can leave the stuff in there to store it too
mhm. had to do that w/ some seeds
Rocks to glass to lightbulbs really condense
selling the gems and bugs along w/ like.. 3 stacks of wooden planks and some misc items neeted me 9k
*netted
def gonna get the copper chest recipe ASAP
Jelly of your starred sapphire xD
In like over a few THOUSAND iron ores I've only seen regular sapphire twice and that's it
don't ask me about the amount of stone i threw away
but now, no more yearning for mines
now i yearn for fish
😄
I prefer the safe zone size booster. Didn’t like the rod health booster. It still made me lose the fish bcs the brackets were way too small
You get safe zone from brew so pairing with rod health hook is pretty viable
So i get their idea
Haha, not for me. With fishermans brew the brackets are still way too small
700 copper nodes and still no emerald 

there there
I was running around the other day and witnessed some pretty childish stuff in the chat about Pal, where someone called out Pal, and got mad at another person for coming whom apparently "had been seen mining Pal alone, so they can't do the callouts because they are only for people who share" It made me really uncomfortable, this went on for a while arguing back and forth. Guys, some people don't have time to wait for others. There aren't rules saying you MUST ALWAYS wait for others. I literally have to look over my shoulder a bunch of times while mining because I am afraid someone is going to get mad at me. I don't have tons of time to wait and if I see a tiny/small Pal, I will break it and move on.... but it puts me on edge that I feel I have to watch my back for fear of being harassed about it. Just let people be, its a game and your rules might not be everyone's rules. JS, More will spawn.
I was bullied for the same thing. Pallium is not rare and will spawn faster with faster breaking
personally i struggle with finding palium, but it's not an excuse to bully others
i also dont callout small pals; only med and large. but i set time like "breaking at 1 in-game hour". and what i do after callout is circle and scan the area and come back to that spot. that's just it. of course yall will get bored if you just stand there and do nothing lol.
i would get mad too if i see someone breaking a large pal without even trying to call it out. i've been in a situation where i need pals for certain furnitures and can't even make them bc i don't have enough palium bars.
Nice!
I hear you, I call out when I can and when I have time if it's a large pal especially. Sometimes though I just don't have time to wait, especially if I know I have to log off soon, or have something like a hunter horn or buzzy jar activated. I just always feel on edge about breaking one by myself because I'm not trying to be greedy and I most of the time find them by accident while trying to do something else
Same, I needed some for furniture I really wanted to finish that day, and I thought since palium is not that rare anymore I could find it easier. I was going up and down the map found maybe 2 baby ones, and saw one person mine big ones without a care in the world, got me so mad. Tiny ones I understand it's 2 ores max and barely 2 hits, but medium and big are something else especially because it can contain ruby or amethyst. Just call out wait 2-3 minutes if no one says anything take it. Damn is it that difficult
Even when my chat doesn't work I still flare it and wait for someone to see and call it
right??? like callout and wait for a couple of mins, if no ones says they are on their way then break it. it's simple as that.
I at least ignore them or send a flare if I don't need them, I did this often after I crafted everything until I got ember furniture unlocked. If I do need it though to craft something and I simply don't have time to wait , I just hate feeling guilty for breaking even a small pal if someone sees me doing it.
I found one but there was someone near me, I let them hit but then they just stood there so I called out and someone said OMW ... they took FOREVER.. so I just left it there for them bc I didn't want to get screamed at.
i break large pal a lot on my own, but if theres a large pal and a medium or like 2 mediums and a small blah blah i usually call it out but sometimes i just dont want to waste too much time playing when I also have tasks IRL to do
but then if i see people request palium bars i fill them and I ignore palium call outs because other people should have it over me in those scenarios 
Honestly I don’t call anything out anymore just because it seems like a lot of people playing are becoming entitled. If I find it and no one is near by I’m breaking it.
honestly forwhatever reason you just need to play how you like to
as long as you aren't doing actual malicious intent, like going up to something called out and taking it for yourself
there's not much else one could do "wrong"
and if someone is mad let them be mad
Yeah I don’t have the time to wait around. I just get it but not if someone called it out of course
i'll call if in a busy area (hideaway bluffs, pulsewater area, outskirts and stables) but most of the time when i call them, nobody responds to the call and have had people run right by me with the pal in plain sight
I'm new to the game but barely ever encountered this problem. Usually people are super nice/grateful when I call out pal, and 99% of the time people wait for everyone to show up
I always wait for people and would get upset seeing people break larges on their own but after reading this I understand more
I’m always too scared to break them on my own but it’s so much to wait 10 mins when I’m trying to get a lot of pallium for something specific you know?
I normally just don't call out for palium in general since it's pretty easy to farm on your own and like the only times when I do call it out is if I'm playing with friends...
Unless someone else finds it before me then I would wait if I see they have called it out as well
I’ve definitely been guilty of being like that, thank you for changing my perspective 
I answer calls sometimes and occasionally call out but if nobody shows up… i don’t feel bad for breaking.
always be free to play how you want to play, all you should do is not go out of your way to be spiteful towards outhers 
Also not every player has discord - so not everyone knows of the community call outs and shared resource etiquette. That plus the switch being so hard to type on - and chat delays - can make it so not everyone has the same access to info and knowledge. I just assume the best of people and that everyone has their own good intentions and are simply trying to enjoy the game. 💕
I’m one of those people who likes to play games alone, even stuff like MMOs. I know it sounds weird but I don’t mind being around other players… I just want to interact with them when/if I want to
Same if I go out somewhere. If I don’t want to interact with people, I don’t
350 glow worms to finally get this jerk of a fish!
And you bet I slam dunked him into the bundle right away. XD
Well played ! 
Based on this message, the best bait to use in order to get waterlogged chests is the glow worm. In my recent experience, I got exactly 0 chest while using them (while fishing all night, approx 4 hours), and right after I switched back to the basic worms, I found like 3 in a row.
Unlucky RNG ? Do you guys still feel like you get more chests with the glow worms ?
Criminal /j
i can get like 8 to 15 chests within 20 minutes at kilima lake / coast
if i skip out on the fish of course
Do glow worms require special food?
Okay thank you very much !
No, but it's a special craft station !
i started fishing for waterlogged chests today. Most info online is months old, so are there still items from the makeshift collection you cant get?
the makeshift items are all available right now, achievement completable
im getting close to getting them all, but missing a handful
Oh heck I’ve been feeding star cakes should I go with grilled brighshroom instead? Or am I reading the chart wrong I’m dyslexic /srs
Gl finding the rest of them ! 
thanks i still dont have my favorite one >:(
Aaahh okay I’ll stick with star apple cakes! Thank you!
Which one is it ?
Ah, same 😂 That's the whole reason why I started trying to get these chests haha
i love plants in thingsss
I cannot for the life of me encounter the dawn Ray 😭 any tips guys?
regular or starred?
Dawn ray fish at night and at dawn
dawnray is only available 3:00 AM to 6:00 AM which is a VERY short time
Dawn Ray, 3-6am, Bahari Rivers, so the two river segments in Flooded Fortress or the handfull of river segments in the far north.
Gonna try for a non starred version so I can put this one in my house
What luck and skill wow
Dawnray is also without worms
BRUH HOW
i get them all the time at thorny thicket, thats like the only place i ever find them
well it is any bahari river 
but getting a STARRED one took me a few IRL days
short time frame and not a lot of hotposts and they are far away from each other
i had a path for it though i was following
flooded fortress up to thorny thicket + top waterfall area has hotspots then down the river and to proudhorn pass
then the time would be up
now my collection is very satisfying to stare at
Almost a week of RL time fishing and over 150 glow worms. Plus Rod Health Booster
I've lost two quality ones because they just move so fast 
That’s why I put the health booster on. It helped regen the bar. Plus the Blue Marlins and Tuna behave similarly. And I’ve caught a lot of tuna
That's a LONG path. I just looped the right side of your path. 4 places with hotspots but that's already a pain.
its a long path cause it hits most river spots with hotspots possible within the short time frame literally runs out by the time im down checking proudhorn lmao
I'm not surprised, just with the small loop I sometimes came too late and saw hotspots despawning. I'd do the same path in reverse if it was for a dawnray or duskray, more hotspots at the beginning
DAY 2 OF ANCIENT FISH HUNTING………
@proper silo Nice, Congrats!!!
Ty. I’m still trying for a basic quality one
I finally caught a Flametongue!! Not a gold star but I got the flame bundle collection done !! So excited
GL with the demon fish
once i get him in gonna put him next to my toilet because i hate him
3-6?! That's where I'm going wrong then! Everywhere I've read has said from 6 onwards 😭😭
Yeah I hate him too
it's morning not day time
6 am to 6pm is day time
morning is 3 am to 6 am
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AAAAAAA I HAD HIM BUT I DIDNT REALIZE MY ROD HEALTH BOOSTER WAS BROKEN SO RIP
BIG PURPLE B!TCH
This one is also good
for times, yes, but palianow has count downs so it's easier to follow
I got a second Unicorn Fish! This one not ⭐️ quality. About to go turn the regular one into the Night Temple Wall
hm, I just recently got the fishermen's brew recipe from Einar with my youngest character, but I don't see it in the work station menu. Has it moved to some other crafter?
it's at the campfire
oh, thank you
Anyone want to fish with a level 5? Could use a chat about multiplayer and a fishing with friends boost if you're interested.
I just got two Dawn rays fishing at Flooded steps!!! Now I just have to find that stupid Unicorn fish.
If you need glow worms, I can help
Can send you my IGN and I can try to gift them
That is so kind! But my 2 glow worm farms have basically been going all week for me, I have too many worms. Thank you so much for offering!
Kk.
Nooooooooo
i’ll name him toiletface when i finally GET HIM
bane of my existence . nasty weirdo
why is it the second i want to mine for copper it all of a sudden isnt spawning anywhere hahaha but when i dont need it its at every turn in kilma
just mine the pure stone nodes as well to increase the chance of copper nodes spawning in.
AAAAAAAAAAAA
I FINALLY GOT HIM
GET ABSOLUTELY GRILLED IDIOT
Guys, What do the bobbers do? Anything??
They're a visual help, that's all. It's the bobber you should focus keeping within the brackets, not the fish. Then you choose the bobber you think looks best.
Gotcha, Thanks. Don't wanna waste my $ on them lol.
What is the best fishing boost?
Probably health recovery but you can stack different boosts like a hook and eat different foods at the same time
Starting to think catching void ray is bugged... Spent over 200 gloworm fishing in Pavel mines and not a single one bite
i got mine about 200-250 gloworms in, about 10 minutes after complaining here
Finally, stupid fish.
no more waiting! 
Yea I unfortunately I ran out of worms and have to make more... Once I have em we will try again I guess
Personally I use the safe zone size boost hook, eat fisherman's brew and trout dinner... Always fish with friends as well for the x5 XP boost
there's no x5 XP boost, you just hook the fish faster
wiki: "Fishing with Friends within a 10m radius will provide a 10% reduction in hook time per stack, stacking up to 5 times."
This is going to massively slow the respawn rate of pal though no?
There's always only 8 nodes of Palium at a time, so it doesn't matter in that sense. If anything the change will encourage people to call out Palium more often, specifically those who would not have the patience to wait around, they can just mine and then call out and move on anyway.
Also; "Mine nodes together" achievement just got a whole lot easier
But now if you mine the 2 large that appear you're stuck waiting 5 mins just for it to respawn else where. Really going to hit the players who do like to Ruby hunt though
Dunno il wait and see it in action but to me the instant respawn was better , most people still won't call out after mining
the node respawn wasn't instant tho, it had something like a 10-20 minute timer per chunk
i think we will see a surge of
I broke a large pal and shot a flare, bye
it was actually near instant for palium
okay I didnt know that, but you still had to find it so when doing an 'efficient' route it might not slow down palium/hour
a lot of people would like break 2 larges, turn around and there was another
can only have 2 larges at a time so the "3rd" would be the respawn

do you happen to have a grid map of the chunks in bahari aswell?
might come in usefull
It for sure was instant, had countless times of breaking one then it spawning in the next open space
yeah mb didnt know that it was differnt for pal
Np np
I like the change for iron and copper but the limited number of pals on the map I think this will slow the collection over all
hopefully they increased the # of pal nodes so it wont affect the pal/hour much 🤞
just remember if you play it and it still doesn't feel good for palium, send feedback!!
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Yeah I pretty much go out mining every day so I'll notice the difference aha , just going to be so much more sprinting across the map
People will spend their time running after flares now
I wonder how much time before the first person being yelled at for sending a flare in a place without palium 🙂
a few people will send in chat to ignore the flare because they were trying to hunt a deer
wonder if it would be an idea to have iron ore (large or medium) have a chance to drop 1-3 pieces of palium as well. something the same as gold or a little less?
Oh I thought it makes u level up faster lmao
Sedge
It takes less time to catch a fish so it does help leveling up faster, though nowhere near x5
Somehow my mind made it feel much faster... Guess if u believe something it feels true to u lmao...
Now that I know it's not true fishing is gonna be a pain... Ignorance is bliss they say
But this means you dont need to mine every node or be there for every callout because if someone gets a gem and calls it out then you can go over there for the gem
That way you can mine efficiently and not waste time for palium without gems
But I do think that it will have an effect on the respawn of palium but we will have to see how long palium takes to despawn
Yeah that's a fair point , kinda takes the joy out of finding the gem yourself if someone says hey there's a star amethyst over there ect. But that's just me personally
I'm hoping the despawn for the nodes isn't 5mins like lily's and cloves
I’ll still flare pal but I am not sitting here typing out every gem on switch 🤣
I mine every rock and node I see, I get a ton of gems. It would take me all day to type out everything 🤣
switch is a pain people need to give switch players more slack
Every time I mention that I get jumped on to plug a keyboard into my dock. I play handheld, I’m not messing around with switching between my controller and keyboard. That will be way more of a pain! I just play the way I feel like at the time - if I’m solo playing I will flare lg pal and throw a little note in chat with the time I’m breaking but I don’t wait around forever. I don’t usually go to others when they call out unless I’m actively doing the same because that feels unfair to me
Hopefully this new way of pal spawning will make that easier too
wonder if we'll see multiple people calling out the same node ~couple minutes apart...that could get confusing if you're not paying attention to where you've been recently
I'll probably be a little chaotic at first, but as soon as people figure out how it works, it'll settle down.
As with any change, you're probably right
So i guess no official range yet how long the “despawn” can range for? Like 1-3 mins ? But yeah we’ll find out once live
I timed a regular stone node and it stayed for 3 minutes after mining
ill time an iron node and palium in a bit
both iron and palium also last 3 minutes
thanks for doing that!
Thanks. On one side not that long for any “stragglers to quickly” join and on the other side not too long so some farm routes should still be valid
nah farm routes are trash now, as far as i can tell at least- although it might be because theres so many people mining here
palium respawn is kinda bad now too, im finding a lot less
Well depends i guess, i usually tend to make small groups but we can now actually just run together and mine it down and the others still can loot/ mine it
Unless you loose out if someone from group destroys the node
yeah im coming across alot less too, and still no ones calling them out xD
Stone now have shadow?
That is the node being left for others
Cool but how do you mine togther then?
Same as normal
or you can break it then they can break it after
Ah good to know
It helps if you are looking for gems
Then someone can callout if they get a gem you need
That way you dont waste time
i used to not call palium out but now that it stays ill break it, flare, call it out, and leave
Been mining iron, I have nearly three stacks. I seem to be missing a few gold nuggets. Anyone else having issues getting gold nuggets?
the chance to get an ore is 7.5% from medium nodes and 15% from large nodes so its kinda rare
By this point I've usually had 3 to 5 nuggets. I've got nothing and I'm halfway through my fourth stack of iron.
your chat may be broken, mine is.
I just looked at mine and I seem to have a lot less gold too
4 and a half stacks of iron ore and not a single piece of gold
lol I hadn't seen this and was SO confused
I finally got 2 gold nuggets by the time I had five stacks. But it feels like a lot less. Same for the garnet count too.
My garnets are pretty normal but the gold seems a lot less, so I dont know
I guess that is RNG
hey miners! may have been said idk but— Ore compass changed! now only tracks large iron and all pal nodes. a lot less overwhelming.
Hi. I tested the new Mining so you don't have to: Mining loot is now different : The first time a node is broken, all players who interacted with it get the same loot. Once it’s broken the loot will ‘change’ for the next set of players who break it while it starts to ‘count down’ to its despawn timer. The timer will cause the ‘aura’ to appear (after a few moments) and the flickering will begin to warn you of the full despawn incoming.
... do I break the node myself? Cause once I hit it its starts the count down... I'm so freaking confused....
the timer starts after you fully mine it, so you can break it yourself
good to know, no point in calling out starred gems then
Ok. See I didn't know that, or didn't comprehend that, (the wording was confusing to me) so I hit 2 nodes once and then walked away to do something, then turned around and the nodes weren't there and there was no loot....
it shoudl only start counting down after completely broken. ❤️ someone probably came by, mined it, and it disappeared. I'll continue to test different outcomes as i can!
@vivid harness okie dokie ^^ tysm ^^
Is there a way to track how many of each fish you've caught?
Because I would LOVE that...
I wish, that would be great
Also maybe something to track how much of an item you have collected or nodes broken
It's a game mechanic I DREAM about in every game... but that's probably an insane amount of coding
I can imagine it being a lot
well, you've got this that can track things
or you can use the achievements in your game to track as well
I want to track each fish, bug, gem, etc... mined and caught... ever... lol
XD
Like the amount
ah how many you've caught not just to see what you are missing
Exactly ^_^ I should have been more clear, sorry
the game has the internal values for that but it won't display them yet
we know it exists because we got hit with all of the new achievements immediately
most profitable place to fish ?
Im not a Big fan of the new spawn thing with minning… Yea its Nice not to have it minned infront of you… but now it might poof as you wait if you Call it out… so its less togeterness 
is anyone else struggling to get gold? I swear its impossible to find
My lizard brain is going between fishing and bugging
its impossible for me to find stone T.T
Really?@frail crystal
I get most of my stone from the main map around the outer clifs
Yes ive been running around trying to look for stone cause i need lots and ive only come aross 1 or 2 stone nodes. iron even less now
Weird... maybe log? And see If it resets your luck?
its like the nodes just up and took a vacation and i have 3 times now lol ill keep lookin tho
Eeww...
finally i could finish the Zeki quest. Now back to fishing. I had all bugs and meal in safe storage and one ray, but not the other fishies. Of course the epic green ray is missing. Guess i have to fish a lot in the next weeks^^
Another 200+ glow worms and still no void ray 😔
Do you catch all fish or use the save worm method?
I catch all to sell... Problem is not the worms used but rather the fact that the void ray doesn't seem to even bite for me...
I have caught both star and non. Found it faster to save the worm than reel in. Felt like I was casting more often.
But how many times did you cast for nothing then?
Does make sense kinda to me but if you cast recast 100 times and got nothing to show later it just feels like totes wasted (if worms are not an issue in itself)
(Even more when not fishing alone)
not sure if anyone thought about this...now that the rocks are like forageables
- i wonder if the drops will be the same for the ones who mined it
- if it is, i hope players will be generous to call out starred starstones to share or (to test, if not) ...even high-value nonstar ones
have verified this myself - i broke a pal and got an amethyst so i called it out thinking everyone else would get one too. but nope, they didn't.
Thanks a lot for the info! and @acoustic island i just posted a thought about it
very helpful !
The time saved was worth the trade off of the fish.
I assume you do get one tho if you break as team no? Or was that luck so far?
yeah i think it must be like that. everyone who participates in hitting it before it breaks the first time gets the same loot. and then i guess the loot changes, but everyone who hits it after the first break but before it despawns gets the 2nd set of loot instead?
I'm testing all the mining atm, so i'll have all the facts probably tomorrow unless they change them after the weekend for any reason
I am so happy they solved the palium discourse omg
anyone else having this issue? I have logged out and back in three times and it hasn't fixed itself.
Just curious but you know about the update right?
yeah that isn't what I am regarding. sorry, I should have explained. The prompt to loot it is gone. The "F" key for keyboard.
Oh, well that is weird
I havent had that happen to me except in certain senarios but the only thing I can suggest is to check your keybinds other than that I have no idea
I never touched my keybinds in this game but I will double check now.
Does it do it for every rock?
Yes. I just mined 4 other rocks in the area and "F" is gone. I just logged out and I am about to log back in.
Let me see if mine is doing the same thing
I guess I just had to leave the game and go back in a bunch for it to work. "F" is back now. That was so weird
I think I am exempt from it because I changed mine to E
Well I am glad it is fixed because that would cause a lot of issues
Yeah that sucked for a minute. Thank you for helping
Youre welcome
To all who achieved the master fish collector achievement: which starred fish was the hardest / took the longest?
Okay ill start with the unicorn fish then 😂
For me I didnt start trying until late into the game
So the hardest when I started trying was the Paddlefish
How come? Spawned less than the rare end epic fish?
Just gave me a lot of trouble and it is only an uncommon
I got a lot of the other ones just because I wanted them
But then I found out about the accomplishment and that one just wouldnt pop up
Plus I got lucky with some harder fish
where is a good place to fish for exp? im currently lvl 4 and need 7 haha
With or without worms
Because with worms I would fish in ponds or Bahari rivers
Without worms I would fish in Kilima rivers
Youre welcome
Not sure how much exp it will get you compared to other places
But keep in mind that starred fish give extra exp and a perfect catch gives a 20% exp boost
Also you can also fish in Kilima rivers with worms but Bahari can have better fish
Do you guys still call out palium nodes or rather wait for others to join? I was in the middle of announcing it to the others (which is a very frustrating process since i‘m playing on the switch😭) but when i closed the chat the pal was gone 😦 do you just mine it now and Tell everyone after?
unfortunately no one has been waiting today so not hitting it when you see it leads exactly to the situation you are describing. you can’t know if someone hit it a few min before and i lost several like this. sadly most people aren’t bothering to call them or even flare today, and people have been sniping groves without sharing even when the rest of the server is looking for them promptly. i hope it’s just a passing phase, but that was my experience today on several severs.
tldr just hit it
yeah, the chat felt a little quiet tbh :/ and the groves thing just happened in my server as well
I had the same experience. The guys flooded the chat saying how they were mining a lot but never called out anything 😂
i mean i saw so many people not calling or flaring and i would try to flare as many as i could knowing players were in the area but you can only do one at a time… or the people like myself who would call them out would just watch them disappear immediately so no one else got them. the best luck i had was with a compass but considering how much more rare silver is than pal it hardly seems worth it
Ancient fish🤬. I hate that fish
sorry my dog sat on my phone
One of the worst fish. I hooked it 5 times before I was able to catch it
It took me 7 times
i got void ray and giant goldfish today after the patch update yay!
More difficult than unicorn (to reel in)?
Yes
Yikes, need to get the safe guide size booster then😅
if i’m fishing and instead of reeling in the fish i just wait for the next catch, will i keep getting the same fish or will other fishes spawn?
Other fish
that never seems to happen to me
like if i don’t catch that Bahari bream it’ll keep popping up
I have definitely read that you need to recast to get a different fish
that makes sense ok
yep you need to recast 
any tips for getting a blue marlin? because i keep getting tuna and bream
I've read on the internet that there's slightly better chances to get it on the beachcomber part of the coast but I don't know if that's true
took me about 200-300 worms to get it and I did get it at that part but idk if that's a coincidence or not
as long as you're fishing in the right area with the right bait there isn't much you can do but just keep trying, it's random which fish you hook. if possible fish near other people to get a free hook speed buff so you can fish faster
Fish at the very end of the pier. I caught two there.
thank you friends
I GOT IT I GOT IT OH MY GOD ITS VEEN MONTHS
THANK UOU ALL FOR THE DRIVE TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD, IM SCREAMING
ehem… i caught the fish, thank you all!
it's more like superstition 😅 if it works it works haha
Superstition indeed just need to be careful presenting it like it's facts 
Best tip I read was to wait to reel in. If you see the epic fish or hard to find fish let it go the first time. Then eat a sushi and drink a fisherman brew. Equip your hook and then reel in on the second bite.
ive read conficting reports on whether or not what you equip/eat while already in the water works
should probably test it mysef
Do the fishing buff stack? Size booster and fisherman brew for example?
oh yeah they do
I swear if I get one more beluga sturgeon or alligator gar… 😭
probably ancient fish or giant kilima ray if i were to guess
i have way too many belugas and gars lol
lots of kilima lake fishing
Im having a lot of trouble finding oily anchovies. Any tips?
just bahari rivers with worms, guess easiest place to keep trying is flooded fortress
Is there any easy way to get a giant goldfish other than to suffer and hoping for RNG to love me?
no unfortunately it's all down to RNG, but some people swear complaining here helps! wishing you luck 🤞
just got my mutated angler right after getting here
Fishing at home plot with others. After 3 days of trying I got it there after 10 worms
not sure if anyones said but i just tested with a friend, if you mine a node together you get the same drops, but if you mine a node fully alone then they mine it fully after the drops are different . so people wont be able to call out star gem drops for others
I'm not really sure I like the way mining works now. People are less likely to stick around to mine together, so the weekly goal will be harder to get. This is also resulting in pal being harder to find, even when someone shouts it out, I often end up getting there too late.
Also, it's disheartening to be running up to a flashing node, only for it to disappear as you swing your axe. 😞 It's worse than if there was no node there at all.
it probably depends on play style and I haven't been playing for that long but I got more palium yesterday after the update than I had in the whole week before. I don't really make specific mining trips so I feel the new system benefits mining while being there for other things
how's everyone enjoying mining this patch?
it will depend on your server for your mining experience. had a group just before i got a full bag that worked well together (until the grove, but that's another story). got 93 ores from the run. It's helpful really, that the nodes stay a bit longer after the first group mines it. I have experienced the torment of seeing a flashing node and the moment you swing your pickaxe it disappears, but compared to how many pal ore i got before compared to now? i feel it's better.
the only thing that i would like, is if you hit the node before it disappears, it resets the timer for hitting, or allows you to complete the mining before leaving
has anyone even got gold ore after update or is it just me? i mined over 300 iron ores and counting and still no gold ore yet
i did just a few moments ago
See i feel different. Since this patch i cannot get pal like i used too. I wish they would revert the patch cause im really on the fence about mining now.
I just used 50+ glow worms looking for the unicorn fish on the windy ruins coast, what am doing wrong?
Food full?
Like full focus? Mostly
Yea, I didn't know it was a thing. I went off dock by lighthouse with full focus and first cast
it's an epic fish, they're going to be harder to catch. if you don't want to waste the glow worms you can recast your line. wait until the fish bites and you'll have a few moments to see if it's what you want/need. if not, let it disappear and then reel the rod in and recast. you won't lose your worms. if it was one you need, leave the rod in the water and the fish will continue to bite until you reel in the rod
Leaving bait in water... does it change fish eventually? Mines always the same rebite
It did drain my focus fully when caught so dunno if that had anything to do with it but it worked for me. I'm only one person and lucky I'd guess in game
You didn’t have fishing boost from other players? What level fishing were you
Me n my spouse were fishing together and lvl 12 fishing I think
Had brew going too
I’m like pretty sure I caught it one time but failed. Ever since then I haven’t seen it bite
Alrighty ty
is there a way to buy glow worm rather than fishing coin ?
No unfortunately 😥 I’ve been using all my requests for them and luckily there’s a lot of ppl willing to gift them
no, just through the glow worm farms. they like sweet things, apple jams work well
I’m just making a ton of star quality congee since it’s 2 worms per meal, my apples are source of income rn lol
does the logic that mining all nodes increase the spwan chance of pal still apply?
that already hasn't applied for a while. i don't know if this is still true as of the latest patch, but certainly until this patch, there were 8 palium nodes on the map at any one time - 2 big, 3 medium, 3 small. breaking one would cause another of the same size to spawn elsewhere almost immediately. so breaking iron and stone doesn't do anything except free up that space for a palium to spawn there after someone breaks a palium somewhere else
only 8 palium at a time can spawn for the entire server as mentioned above
sadly XD
is it bettter to eat/cook sashimi or sushi for fishing?
I believe sushi gives a bigger boost. So just depends on if you think you need the extra health
its just that sushi is so expensive with dari cloves
Does anyone here have the aquarium yet? I'm curious about how much room it takes up in your house...
Thank you!
YEEEEEEEEEE
congraats!!!
(I don't even have the non-starred one xD)
Is Kenlis carp rare? I’ve never caught it before until now
Pretty sure they are rare category but you'll usually find acouple while looking for the flame tongue
is it just me or do the starstones feel nerfed drop wise again
30 game hours. 1 broken ex. rod. 150 glow worms. 5 major size boosters. No fracking void ray. This is a tough fish for me to get.
took me around 250 worms
oh my goodness. I've been reading older posts, and it's a majority of 200+ worms and many many hours and then a small smattering of people who get the void ray with less than 10 worms.
i feel like with the epic fish it's either 10-20 worm or 200+, at least that's my experience so far
that goldfish is making me question if I even exist
about 90 mins of mineing (and one grove) , im finding large pals are consistently giving more pal now haven't seen any 2/3 ore drops but ive not had a single pal gem since the update
What is a grove???
the grove is the flow tree grove that spawns each in game night at midnight! it is in bahari bay and will be typically be anywhere from 4 - 8 trees. its an easy way to get reliable flow wood
Is it in a random location or?
it is random every night,, but always in bahari. people go hunting for them and typically call them out
I see I see
Do trees behave differently for mining now@too or no
Last I played it was just if they got chopped you were out of luck
for now, trees function the exact same way!
Dang
if you get one tap in on the tree, you will get the item
so all you need to do is make sure you hit each tree once before people chop
Lame
people typically keep the entire grove up until 3am to allow for people to get to the grove
Anyone know where is best to fish for dawnray??
Bahari rivers 
Ty
Only during morning!
I only need giant kilima stingray and stormfish then im done with all the temple bundles so far. Any tips where to catch them?
Giant Kilima Stingray at the Kilima Lake (where Einar is) during morning, day and evening.
Stormray in Bahari rivers during morning and evening.
Thanks!
what's going on? Are people finally starting to come to terms that their "mine every stone" thing was wrong? At this rate we'll get meaningful changes to nodes (instead of a 3 minute cooldown respawn nerf) in October!
I just had a node which refused to 'ghost' after being mined. I could still use my pickaxe on it but it stayed with a full bar. I already had the loot though so probably just a minor glitch. Anyone saw something similar ?
that free space goes to the end of the queue tho so it'll be a while before something else spawns there btw
I told people this would happen and they dogpiled me in gen chat 
that's happened to me already with two large pals 
Just double checking - does each person have to break the pal fully for the loot, or is it still one hit per person when sharing?
Cause I've definitely called out, flared, and broken large pals before and see the ghost as intended, but I've also seen people still tap a node.
if you each hit it once to break it youll get the samme loot, if you break t fully solo then another person does the loot is dfferent
1 tap still works as long as its broken before it disappears
alot of people still dont know about or understand the mining changes ive seen
as long as people don't wait 30 minutes guarding their node until the required number of persons had a tap each...
I mine what I find, flare if it's a big or there are several close together, depends on the mood a bit
i only know about the different loot drops because i tested witha friend , wanted to see if peoples plans to call out gem drops were a possibility but aren't
I tried to test that when I found a star amethyst, but the guys after me didn't tell what they got
i did the test with garnets in a couple nodes as quick easy to find, just incase we had happened to get the similar drops by chance and made it look like the same loot
Where can I catch the long nosed unicorn fish?
bahari coast
Thanks
Anyone else have a hard time getting the sushi recipe? 😞
Sushi is the worst.
Anyone else feel like fishing has been nerfed in some way with the patch. Even with brew and exquisite pole it seems much harder to bring them in . Also the climbing mechanic seems more broken than before. Also , as others have said, not a fan of the new mining changes.
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I've had one normal amethyst since the patch. I've been looking for the gold star of that for ages. sigh.
This stormray is making me lose my minddd
I've fished at flooded I've done proudhorn and nothing!!!
it is a very specific time, if i recall, morning and evening only
both times lasting only around 5 or so minutes
so like around 10 minutes every hour in total to get it, which sucks lol
why not keep the dawn and dusk terms like in-game instead of morning and evening ?
sorry i fished for it recently and was using that one website and thats the terms it says
man i am STILL trying to get rainbow trout
Yes it wasn't a jab at you, I know plenty of sites (including the wiki iirc) use morning, evening. I just don't get why. I got used to dawn, dusk because I was using peepy's fishlist and it's consistent with the game lore, I like it more.
I like morning and evening more because they refer to longer periods of time. Dawn and dusk are just brief periods by definition
3am to 6am is a long dawn alright but morning ?
Has anyone found a star citren since update? ive had 21 today none starred
my days mining , really low pal drops and not sure whats going on with citrin xD
so clean and organized lol i wish my inventory looked this organized after going out for resources. to answer your question tho, not yet.
I'm crying over here...that gold star amethyst...waaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
i shan't show my lock box then 😅
oh sorry i was mistaken, i just checked my stone display and i do have a single citrine there so i've found one since the update but that is all.
since the update 2/3 days ago?
yep, i only had quartz and garnet there pre-update
i have jasper and cetrizine now
ahhh okay nice good to know, just my rng being ass then aha
not just you dw! i got the achievement for finding all the gems but i only have 4 starred, so i feel you. i've been mining non-stop and nada.
oh i have alot starred, this was my first solid day mining since the last update and the citrin just stood out as an odd amount with no star drop
next fish: unicorn 😄
got it ! 😄
Got there. 🙂
Congrats, I hate that fish
im skipping that... If I just get the starred fish, will it also complete the normal achievement?
Yes
it will but then youll have to use the star fish for the door bundles and wont have it to display
Door bundles?
Temple Bundles. (it's a main quest line, if you haven't gotten to them yet)
Yeah I got them, ( or else I couldn't have catched the ancient fish)
oh right haha
Has anyone ever caught. TWO flametongue rays?? I caught a starred flametongue ray before I knew it was part of a bundle. I’ve been fishing like crazy to get another one for the bundle, but I’ve been working at it a while. I’m not trying to give my star version up lol. Just wondering if anyone has ever caught two of them 🙂 Thanks!
Yup ik lot of pple who got 3 + dw keep fishing for it :D
I personally got both starred and unstarred fairly easily (like 100 for the normal and then 20 for the starred)
so hard to get pal
i collect rays for a ray room so yes
I need to fish for the Flametongue more because it is my favorite but I only have three of them
However because of my mining in Bahari, I now have 10 Void Rays
Ahhh okay! Thank you for the info!! I’ll keep on fishin’ 
Three?!
okay okay imma keep at it! Thank you
Youre welcome
1% chance normally and 2% in the hotspots but the starred ones are tougher
why are rocks just vanishing from before my eyes now?
lmao
is that part of the update??
just got to a large pal and it disappeared
theyre operating similar to forage items like mushrooms now and will be on a despawn timer when someone mines it
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