#🐟│fishing-mining
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Thanks ❤️
did they nerf the palium spawnrate back down without announcing?
Does anyone know what fish are in the big tanks when displayed?
Albino Eel
Alligator Gar
Ancient Fish
Bahari Pike
Barracuda
Beluga Sturgeon
Blue Marlin
Bluefin Tuna
Cactus Moray
Freshwater Eel
Hypnotic Moray
Indigo Lamprey
Long Nosed Unicorn Fish
Midnight Paddlefish
Striped Sturgeon
Swordfin Eel
Thundering Eel
Willow Lamprey
Yellowfin Tuna
Ty!!!
I hope I didn't miss any... 😅
They couldn't have done that without a update so no just a bad day of rng i guess lol
No but it varies drastically based on how many other people are mining pallium.
Where and how can I get an Oily Anchovy ?
Oh, Thx ❤️
okay, i noticed when I was alone nothing would really pop, but the more people that gathered the more often it seemed to spawn so that makes sense
yes, this is why there are palium farming parties. I've stayed to the end of several, and you can watch the spawn rate decrease as people leave.
how do i let go of a fish instead reeling it in
Just dont press anything
It goes away
Then you can recast
ahh okay ty
Seen this person again. I mean why not just fish hack at your own plot? Begging to get reported?
ughhhhh
giant goldfish and sushi recipe DO hate me
spent almost 200 glow worms and didnt get any of them
Have you tried fishing for it on your home plot? (With glow worms)
not yet! i'll try
Good luck! I haven't caught it yet but I'm going to try the home plot too, a fellow shepp said they got theirs from that :)
They should really add fishing nodes to our home plot!
Wasn't that a thing before? I remember catching star quality fish from my home plot pond when I started playing
I really really really doubt that
I believe there is a super small chance to get a starred fish in open water, like fractions of 1%
but I've been wrong before
nope, but I suspect there might be a bug with hotspot visibility and sometimes you might hit that
home pond doesn’t have hotspots for sure tho, visible or invisible
hii any tip for fishing in cave? do pavel mines only have hotspots?
Depends on what you are going for
dumb question but when a fish jumps are you supposed to let off the reel? Like stop holding down the mouse button?
Ah I think I figured it out.
kinda lol
That's correct!
It can be tricky hehe! But yes stop reeling when they jump, but still move your mouse to keep the bobber inside the parentheses. You can actually stop reeling any time with any fish, and just keep the bobber inside the parentheses, if you need to take a moment before reeling again :)
Awsome thanks so much! 😄
Only issue with pausing for too long just keeping the bobber without reeling is that if you aren't as fast as the fish, it'll break quickly and you lose the fish and have wasted time. Otherwise yeah, there's no actual timer or anything.
My favorite part is that you can scout fish without wasting worms.
Let it bite and escape once.
If it's not the one you want, let it go, pull rod back out and cast again, otherwise just wait for it to bite another time.
Also, Ruby is truly elusive. I just want to find one for achievement and stash it in my lockbox cause purdy.
For me it was an Emerald that took forever. It's just RNG, so it could be soon, or could be a while from now. ;w; Unfortunately Rubies are only from Palium, so it's a little less abundant to farm for. 
unless you're camping it in a server with people camping different spots, it gets pretty abundant then 😅
though personally i'm not really a fan of camping. it's too boring for me, and the presence of campers means not being able to casually mine palium along a route from whatever spot campers are in, since it's gonna get mined as soon as it spawns.
I just do my daily route to Tamala and pick up 5-10 nodes along the way, have like 111 bars of the stuff, then teleport home again. Have gotten just about everything else.
As someone who enjoys camping 10-20 mins at a time, I hate being on servers without anyone else camping pal. The spawn rates get so low there isn't any pal to grab. I don't think occasional pal miners realize how much campers improve the spawn rates on the rest of the map.
mhm. i've camped and seen the respawn rates very noticeably get worse when campers elsewhere on the map decided to stop.
It is almost like the same concept as flow trees! Camping is fun in Pavel
is it just me or is iron harder to find? Im having to server hop to get any
I find a ton when I am looking for white chapa
That’s probably because everyone is farming it right now. Try northern side of Bahari and further from palium
yesss, spawn rate is the same, but there's a lot more people mining it, now the starstones are out.
Could you tell me what types of fishing buffs are and what they do? or if i can see them in game
Hi! I'm definitely not a fishing expert, but there are things like food you can eat which will give you different buffs for fishing (I think sushi? I don't have the recipe yet though), and fisherman's brew drink you can craft, fishing bobbers (I don't have any yet myself), as well as standing near someone else when fishing to get a group buff. The wiki will have more answers than I do though :) https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Fishing
Hi im looking someone level almost 50 in fishing, i wonder if someone could exactly equip same clothe like me and record the time when you get level 50 in fishing please ? i have totally forgot to record for my collection, and it would be so much helpfull for me, thx you
tysmmm
honestly with how little stuff we have aside from candles and bottles/cups to put on shelves we need to be able to place more tiny objects fr
I think it’d be nice to have a few small pieces of furniture for multiple uses, like 3 different sized pillows with chooseable colors for things like jewelry, relics, and stones, then you can have multiple different rocks without having to give them their own display model each
I wanna see pearls in a display similar to a ring box
I still have an emerald pearl i want to display
Being able to place the rocks in glass display cabinets or cases would also be nice
Same with placing the rock without any extra stuff
I want rocks

Hi guys, just a quick question: does any of you know if it is profitable to use the major safe zone size hook and fisherman's brew at the same time? Do you even get a bigger safe zone size or does the fisherman's brew do absolutely nothing because of the hook?
the buffs will stack up afaik 
Is there a known bug with fishing in the ripples? When I go to reel the fish in I don't get the reticle.
Autofail, yes
Submit a bug report please i want them to fix it i lost a starred void ray once LOL
I lost an ancient fish today. Totally sick about it.
If you miss the fish the 1st time it will keep coming back so never reel in.
Just to check I'm understanding, do you mean you can hook the fish but you can't see a reticle? Or is it that you try to hook the fish but it disappears/won't hook?
This advice doesn't make sense to me, because when the autofail strikes me it automatically reels in without the fish. Maybe the bug works differently for some people? Or there are two different bugs?
yeah thats autofail alright
I see the bobber pop that let's me know I have a fish, click the mouse button to reel it in but it won't hook, the fish disappears and the line comes automatically back to me.
Ahh ok, yeah that's frustrating :( definitely submit a report to player support https://support.palia.com I hope it can be fixed soon, it's happened to me a couple of times as well.
My bug is a little different and it's random. I see the bobber pop, I click the mouse button but nothing happens and the fish swims away. I can wait for another cycle and try again and it'll work and I'll still get a gold star fish if it's a bubble pool. This 'bug' happens with or without the bubble pool, worm type (even no worm) makes no difference as far as I can tell.
Where?!! 👀👀
got it in hotspot near the aqueduct
I’m not looking at the map is that northeast bahari?
Almost have the maps memorized but not quite fully lol
Ah yeah I've heard of that one too. Definitely submit a bug report to player support (same link as above) to let them know.
kinda middle, I did all hotspots I could find during the day. Did that for several hours
Is there any advantage to upgrading the bobber for the fishing rod or is it just cosmetic?
it's just cosmetic 
im using the bobber from the fire bundle its nice
Ok, thanks
Nice thanks so much
Hello does someone is almost level 50 in fishing ?
I would help, but already 51...
anyone else noticed a lack of palium spawn or rocks in general?
im starting to feel like either something is broken or since the release of the starstones there have been anot of nerfing behind the scenes
Only i think is people are active mining it is spawning faster
that could also be it 🤔 it did cross my mind that maybe the more miners the more spawn
3rd day after last update probably 😂
I've had drastically lower flow trees but swimming in abundance of pal spawns 🤣
Occasionally i struggle to find as many iron spawns but not often
does anyone is almost level 50 ? in fishing
Nope. Vibing at lvl 9 🤣
so idk if this has been found but i'm sure everyone knows of the 'ghost fish' bug where when you fish at a node sometimes you'll catch and it just reels the rod back in with nothing. some of you probably know of the fix where you can walk away and come back to the node too and try fish there again, but i've noticed something which idk if it's been talked about but if you have a fishing bobber skin (i use the pyroflow bobber) and when you take out your rod, it shows as the default bobber skin for that rod, every time i fish when that default bobber skin the ghost fish bug happens, but if i keep swapping my tools until my actual skinned bobber shows, i don't get the bug and i fish the star node successfully. just thought if this wasn't known i should put this out there
welcome to autofail
#autofailclub
praying for the patch on the 21st to fix all my problems LOL
i swear i'd have actually finished my fish collection if this bug didnt exist
fr fr
I really really hate fishing...
Nope..🤣🤣
god i love starstones
It’s an addiction. Palia mining is the safest form of gambling.
its the only reason i was able to get copper storage as soon as i did, farming is lucrative, but slow af
and its gonna be the only reason i am able to afford iron storage without pulling my teeth and hair out
In the last week, I got my mining level up from 80 to 100. This week, I plan to get mining above my gardening level.
does anyone have tips on catching that goldfish for the temple? i have been trying for weeks at this point lol
the giant goldfish?
yes
I cought it in the pond at the mirror pond ruins with glow worms. did you check, if you use correct bait? it may take more trys. maybe try to cheese the game a little bit by not reeling in the fish if you see its not the one youre looking for. if you let the fish escape before trying to catch it, you dont loose your bait and dont waste as much time. make sure to recast your rod after the fish escaped since that esures you hook a different fish next time
sorry if that explanation was a little complicated, I´m not a native speaker. there are youtube tutorials on this techinique tho, maybe that could clear confusion
yeah it might take a little longer :c it took me ages to catch a void ray
unfortunately there are no tips
you got a ~2% chance per cast to get the giant goldfish - so it could take lots of glow worms till you finally get it
but I hope that your RNG will be nice to you and that you'll get it soon 
funnily enough those keep showing upo for me
i hope you get that rng for your giant goldfish too
tyty!
btw is star quality fish dependant on rng too? or do you only get it from the bubble spots? I cant remember if I caught any star quality fish without bubble spots
as well as not hooking wrong fish to save time (what PhoenixQuinn suggested), you can also save time by eating Trout Dinner, which shortens how long it takes for a fish to bite. you need to be at friendship level 3 with Einar to get the recipe.
there's also a hook you can buy from the fishing guild store that decreases hook time, but those hooks cost medals (which you might want to save for the cooler items in the store).
there's no rng for star quality fish, no. it's garaunteed from a bubble spot (except not really, because you can get a waterlogged chest instead), and that's the only way to get them. 
Only from bubble spots
ah nice, thank you
If you want to catch the fish then do it at home where you can access storage (and can fix pole at the anvil) so you dont have to go back and forth
Otherwise to save worms you could just not catch the more common fish then recast
Was disappointed this morning when i lost my perfect ancient fish but i came back for round 2 fully prepared this time and got it 😄
wish you best of luck in getting it, if anything to get from my experience make sure to prepare with a good hook and food ( I used the Major safe zone booster + Fisherman's brew) and that made the 2nd fight against the ancient fish much more manageable for me at least
How rare is the fish stew? Been using more than 100 worms and nothing
its not that rare I don't think , just a worm on the coat of the bahari bay
the fish stew recipe has ~1% chance per cast
oh wow
I got it a long time ago had no idea
I am wanting the long nose unicorn in Star caught it 4 times no star ....... I think the chances are -00000% lol
also ~1% chance for the unicorn 
yeah i figured as much , also need the Void Ray , I guess the chances are low for that as well
pfff
It's frustrating , I keep catching the same fish over and over the Tuna or the Albino EEL
~2% but yeah in the end it always comes down to RNG

You know what to do...🎣
What happened to Fairy Carp... 
False advertising
it's been a week since I've seen a star node in bahari coast, man. Did they lie about increasing them in the patch notes lmao they just don't respawn
Last time I wanted to fish for the star unicorn I AFKed at the bubble spot spawn for 30 mins and nothing appeared, now I server hopped 4 times to an empty coast
there is a limit to the number of nodes that can spawn at a time. With bahari coast, nodes on the S part are out of the way and often stay there since ppl don't go there, try those
I am there actually :( I run across a couple times and there's nothing. Could just be me, I guess
right after the patch, i joined a pal in a fresh server to test out the bubble respawn times at BB coast, since nobody was fishing there yet so all the nodes were untouched. tbh we didn't feel like there was much of a difference between pre and post respawn-rate-increase patch.
I feel like they forgot to mention that it was only for river nodes since before the patch they were sooo few. I saw 6 bubble puddles at once over here once
oh yeah, that's an interesting thought. BB river hotspots definitely feel more plentiful now. 
If anyone wants to farm palium/starstones, we need a couple more people 😄
https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1176224894187483237
Compare "Standard Stove/Oven" icon to what you get. That's the real false advertising XD At least the fish is same colour.
don't get me started on some makeshift items like coffee table or birdbath
omg yes the birdbath is horribly wrong
I can't get fisherman's brew to show up anywhere to craft but I bought the recipe. Where do I make it 😬
On a fire thingy
Camp fire
oooooo ofc the one thing i didnt think to try lmao ty
Unsure where Feedback/Questions would go for Mining, but just a new comer experience. Been noticing that showing up a bit late to some of the more rare mining nodes means I miss out on rewards for mining them. Alot of the time I have been following online visual guides of the routes to go, but someone was already there mining them so they are on respawn. For me it's often been for Pallium nodes, but I have concerns for the future when the game gets bigger and we have more players, that it might mean competing for nodes making mining very difficult. Competition doesnt feel quite as cozy for me when it comes to the cozy vibe of the game. Has S6 commented on any plans or solutions to prevent this from happening?
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There's a max of 30 people on each "server", so even if there are more players in the future, there won't be more competition.
A little communication goes a long way. use the nearby channel to say that you want to join the palium camp and people are likely to slow down for you to join.
Its actually really hard to tell if someone is interested in mining palium in some of the locations, and slowing down decreases the spawn rate for palium across the map. But if there's a good spawn rate, missing one round of palium nodes won't matter, because it will spawn again in a minute or two.
Thank you, I'll keep this all in mind. Didn't know about the player cap, glad to hear my worries are already dealt with for the most part.
Max is 25 i think
Last time the devs officially said the number it was 25, but lots of us have seen more than 25 on a server, never more than 30.
Guess there's leeway for syncing?
I'VE BEEN PLAYING SINCE THE RELEASE AND FINALLY CAUGHT A GIANT GOLDFISH, I COULD CRY 😭
Hmm, I guess attending a cooking party is a form of server syncing, so yeah.
i just fished up the sushi recipe, first cast, on my own plot LOL
Yay congrats!
do glow worm fish give more exp than wormless fish?
based on my testing the amount of exp per fish is based on the value of the fish.
so yes fishing with glow worms will give you more exp.
if you're purely fishing for levels I'd suggest you to fish in ponds with glow worms.
all the pond fish (even the Giant Goldfish) are fairly easy to reel in with a perfect catch (+20% exp) and both common fish (Scarlet Koi & Mottled Gobi) have a value of 85g (which is the highest value for common glow worm fish)
do the bobbers impact anything?
no they're just cosmetic.
ah okay thats what i thought
Are there any recipes that use the starstones yet? Are there any incoming?
thank you very much! 🙂
there aren't any recipes which use the Starstones in game yet
I'm not sure if there will be any recipes but I guess that the Starstones will have another use (besides selling) in the future
Mining is so profitable now
gifting to the npcs for new wallpapers (cf. patch notes)
getting nerfed in 23 minutes
only the three top ones, people probably mined so much more pallium after the patch that they had to nerf it...
Sell your rubys now haha
Yea i was able to afford my Iron storage and 5th inventory from palium farming it was crazy
mostly amethyst and ruby
just read it yeah 🙂
still guessing there will be more in the future 
WHEW, sold off my stockpile with literally less than 60 seconds before the servers crashed
ty so much for seeing and posting this!!!
glad i got six rubies last night and already sold them 😅
N just like that the gems has been nerfed 🤣🤣🤣. This is not a cozy game this is a grinding game
I mean rebalancing imo is pretty standard in game development
But i make 40k a day with just lazy gardening and whatnot so I'm still cozy
I should have taken advantage of gems 🤣🤣 but 8k was insanely high
Nice while it lasted
Honestly, I find the other gems that weren't nerfed so much more that I don't think it'll be that much of a loss of income. All they really did was reduce the fluctuation in income/time by mainly making the ruby less crazy. It's still more profitable than most other professions given you don't have to put any money into it (worms, seeds, fertilizer, etc) and the gems double as mega gifts for villagers regardless of their weekly wants.
i saw the starstone adjustments coming. mining is still very profitable so the changes truly don't make that much of a difference to me 
for 100stone+100palium (around 1h, maybe less with good respawns) it's 40k down to 25k, still a lot
idk, i rarely got any rubies or amethysts when mining palium even after 1 whole hour so.... the nerf does seem overkill to me
only once on the very first day of the update i got a crazy amount of amethysts in 1 hour but after that super rarely
i feel like mining became non profitable for me again
or maybe im doing it wrong and i really hope that is the case
what a fresh server does to a mf
Took a break since August, did I miss much in the fishing scene? 
I got 2 rubies back to back in 5 mins. I'm vibin this update.
I need to fish to give Einar pleasant shaped fishies
not really :')
we got some extra hotspots in bahari bay, and they (supposedly) respawn faster now too.
5 hours and i still havent found a single emerald 
I feel like fishing spots are slower than ever and don't spawn in some areas at all sometimes anymore? Anyone else having issues with this?
Yeah I feel like fishing goes slower for me sometimes too.
I just got EXTREMELY lucky with the long nosed unicorn fish and the void ray!
I tried to catch the long nosed unicorn fish about 3 times before this, but pretty much unprepared and I had only one on my hook once before but lost it. I never specifically tried to catch the void ray, because I was just dreading that lol. An hour or so ago I decided I'd try for both!
I brought with me:
400 glow worms (bought 160 of them from Einar with medals, the rest I already did have)
10 major safe zone size hooks (bought them from Einar with medals)
11 fish stew for minor safe zone speed
12 sushi for major rod health boost
I put all my arrows and bombs in my storage, so I wouldn't get tempted to hunt/catch rare creatures and insects + turned on "Eat when Full" in settings.
I equipped the hook and made my way over to Coral Shores. As soon as the clock hit 6am I ate fish stew and sushi and started fishing.
After 6 black sea bass and 6 yellowfin tuna, THE UNICORN FISH WAS ALREADY ON MY HOOK AND I CAUGHT IT!
I teleported to Pulsewater and went to Pavel mines. My hook still had some health left. Ate another fish stew and sushi and started fishing again.
..... After 1 stonefish, 1 Star stonefish, 2 blobfish and 1 hypnotic moray, I ALSO CAUGHT THE VOID RAY WTF. Now I got both vaults completed! ^^
With only 19 glow worms less and 9 hooks, 9 fish stew and 10 sushi left, I'm good to focus on completing Fish Collector and Master Fish Collector 
You were blessed with Einars Oneness
I suppose I was 🥺
I also got a random boost and the fish together weekly while fishing for the unicorn fish, even though nobody else on the coral coast was fishing 😅
Is someone is nearby or fishing by you can have that boost also
It only takes one person quickly one time fishing within a radius of your character to trigger so yeps
Is it just me or did they make the areas along the coast harder to fish at
It’s what I said earlier here, the nodes just don’t respawn for me like ever unless it’s a fresh server :/
For me it was just moving the fishing thing side to side was super slow
Not sure I’ve noticed that, let alone specifically on the coast
Hmm, wondering if it's something on my end 🤔
I noticed it too! Not only bahari coast
I've been noticing a lack of reactivity / some lag on fishing. Like it'd not registering I'm moving my mouse left and right to track the fish as I reel in
It's not every time but ik it isn't my mouse or dpi
I had such lag when other players were around, I lost a lot of fish this way (not only Unicorns or Ancient Fish, but regular fish as well, even using boosts). My internet speed isn't well 😦 I didn't have any problems with catching starred Unicorn when no one was around.
I laughed that in such a "cozy" game I tend to have murderous thoughts about other players when I was fishing for my collection 😅
This has to be bug reported more. It's so slow I don't think it was intentional.
Oh so you too?
Yes, the green fishing reticules move super sluggish for me.
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has anyone found a new profitable way to get money?
its taking me around 5x times more time to get the same amount of money from mining (longer node spawn time, starstone price decrease, no increase in drop rate of starstones)
the game is about grinding pretty much and i feel like the harsh change just made it a grind nightmare....
or any general advice with mining?
when ppl get bored of new content, they might start to mine palium again. That should give good money again (but still less than before)
so if i understand you correctly the more people mining the faster the node respawn?
idk :/ been mining in large groups and the respawn of the nodes is still quite long
not even talking about palium itself only, also other nodes
I think it's map wide mining not just 1 area re: respawn rates
I've noticed a slight slowdown recently w the flow tree increase
i think all nodes of one type have min and max respawn times. They always respawn after at most max, but respawn earlier if number of nodes gets low. This would explain why last patch lowered respawn for palium to like 1-2min (everyone was farming it) and why now it's more (less ppl farm it).
I say this way too often but i make 40k a day on gardening alone which helps me a lot because im way too lazy and also sometimes too busy to do something with more effort in the game
Does anyone ever heard of a fishing bugg or anything like that? It seems like after I relogg I have a higher chance to get rares, when Im constantly fishing for 1 hour I can't get any rare and throw my worms out like nothing, sucks a bit though :/
I was just thinking today that am I just imagining things or is it terribly slow. Now i know im not the only one.
Yeah i noticed it being slow
Yeppp I just noticed this too. Someone on Reddit said they upped their camera sensitivity and it helped. Idk if that’s true though.
My fishing reticle was dragging super slowly so I upped the camera sensitivity and it did help, but now the camera moves too fast and makes me dizzy 
aside from the generic kilima lakes, is there a specific location that midnight paddlefish frequent? mostly getting alligator gar and beluga sturgeon
They're fairly rare, but catchable anywhere on the lake
yeah i saw that but didnt know if someone could narrow it down
Also can I now start ranting about unicorn fish? 
What kind of boosts you guys would recommend? Apparently i am very unlucky in fishing in general. I know this one is very rare but took forever to catch every single other fish too lol. I just want to finish the bundle thingy 
are pal spawns slow for anyone rn
Only when others aren't actively mining for pal nodes. If the servers busy and ppl aren't only on ft or hunting. But w the flow trees in abundance I have lulls in pal
any1 know if they fixed the unobtainable makeshift items yet?
Also have this problem with fishing after update. It's so bad that i keep failing and can't catch anything
I found one online map that showed two spawn points near the eastern pier on Crystal Lake (the lake Einar fishes on the northern edge of). Eventually got my latest midnight paddlefish on the western side of it, tho.
It varies a lot based on how many people are mining palium at the moment. If you are on a low population server (5 or less players) it will be pretty slow.
And its definitely been slower since the update, because people stopped mining and started hunting muujin instead.
anyone willing to trade for 2 emeralds? in lfg
Sooo what are gemstones for? Just for selling?
And gifting
does anyone want to team up for a bit and mine pal together 
If there's no takers here someone may in #1143270926394335282 😁
what is up with the new fishing sensitivity ???
not sure if bug or like the casting speed when they slowed it down before finally adding a setting for speed ajusting instead
hopefully they either fix it, or give it a setting too
Certain spots it's just super broken
where do I get uncommon fish more easily because 200+ in I'm definitely doing something wrong :))) I need 5 for a quest
nvm figured it out
Is master kilima and bahari fish collector accomplishent buged?
finaly.. this thing decided to not wanna be caught for ages.
There is in general a major accomplishments bug for several patches now
It wasn't... I mean, it depends what do you mean by 'bugged'? It didn't count for you when you caught all starred fish?
I have visual bug for some time now but I counted all things by myself and it worked fine, I got other rewards. I think I could miss one fish? Maybe? I will try and put them from tanks to inventory. Just wanted to be sure if it is my fault or I can't get reward anyway 
One of them may be a reward from quest. For sure Blue Marlin could be one of them.
Oh so it's like with raspberry beetle? I didn't know that. I think I could mistook crimson fangtooth for mutated angler because I can't find it anywhere 
And thank you! 
how can i place fish in my house?
you can only put star quality fish down. You select them in your item bar and just like you would put down furniture
Same goes for food and bugs
can i do it anytime or do i need a certain level/achievement...?
no just a star quality anything
oki thankuu
Finally caught a void ray 🥲🥲🥲

quest for star unicorn and goldfish ever ongoing, I lost 3 times to the unicorn I want to cry..... I hook it, almost make it and then 
I know this feeling very well 🥺 After I lost 2 starred unicorns one day I started using Major Safe Zone Size Booster (and of course also Fisherman's Brew, Fish Stew, Sashimi, and sometimes Trout Dinner). If you don't need to catch starred one and need it only for Bundle, food should be enough, but Fisherman's Brew is must have.
okay so the other day i hit fishing 50 and didn't get the accomplishment/trophy, a workaround i found is that just getting 1 more level can fix it and give the trophy as you can see here. hope this can help someone
I got my starred Unicorn fish before any Marlin. Im currently building an entire stadium out of Bahari Pike and Fathead minnows that I keep catching instead of a Swordfin Eel.
I got marlin from ||hodari romance|| lol
I was like oh thanks man this is going straight to the aquarium
the fishing reticle seems really slow moving it from side to side now or is it just me?
It's relatively slow. There's a hook to buff the reticle speed though :)
thank you!
Longnose was caught within like 20 casts, not a starred one, just for the bundle.
Just gotta get the Giant Goldfish now, but "Any time" from Ponds makes me think "Lmao, put off forever"
Or I catch the thing within like 10 casts in Mirror Pond Ruins, that works too?
why does it look like theyre fishing from the top
nvm u cant even see the line but sometimes their line goes upward into the rocks
fishing gets some weird visual glitches sometimes. 
the other day i saw a friend all the way up in the sky when they were fishing. they were really just on the ground but the game was being funky.
Is there a way to increase spawn rate for epic fish? Last 4 things I need for the bundles are the epic fish
noo, sorry. :(
best you can do is try to increase how fast you cycle through fish. some general tips for that:
- make use of hook time boosts to make fish bite faster (trout dinner, a hook time fishing attachment from the fishing guild store, and the fishing with friends buff do this)
- don't catch a fish if it's not the one you're looking for. just let it swim away and recast your rod. it's faster than going through the catch minigame. (dont leave your rod in the water or you'll keep getting the same fish over and over)
It took me like two weeks to catch the void ray 😦 just keep at it but also intersperse some other things like foraging etc. to not lose sanity etc. you WILL Catch them ♥️
I’m losing my mind 😂 just need the giant goldfish, radiant sunfish, and the unicorn fish
I am working on teh giant goldfish now and I am like 500 glow worms in and convinced the fish dosen't exist... XD
I even sent in a ticket at one point for the void ray convinced it was bugged but they told me it wasn’t it was just that rare 😭😭😭 I finally caught it and now I’m taking a break from fishing 😭
I haven’t caught the radiant sunfish yet either 😭
thank you, now for the fricking elusive goldfish
only one left and I have the achievement 

Congrats!!
does anyone by chance know the worm rates for the furniture boxes in each body of water 
LETS GOOOOOOOOO
Oh its gone
Welpppp
yeah thats usually where i check
but i didnt notice until todaythat the site was taken down
Good thing i remember where the 7% chance is xD
😮 where
kilima lake,hotspots, using glow worms, between 3am to 9pm
thank you! i can at least write that down LOL
I need to catch the Midnight Paddlefish for the "When We Were Young" quest. I've been trying to catch it for so long and haven't even seen it once. I've been fishing in the ocean and the lagoon at night with glow worms. Is there something I'm missing? Could I have some tips or at least some insight.
How often does palium pop up? or is it more a rare find?
Very common in specific spots
Rates work better when more people are mining those spots
I suggest going to pavel mines from the top entrance
Jumping down each lower area breaking the rocks
Then go out the exit with the water geyser, riding it and gliding towards the top entrance again
And repeating that process
okay! thank you -- ill go ahead and try that!

are people no longer doing palium parties because of the starstone price changes?
Its the release of muujins and flow tree groves keeping people occupied
And the quest line thats limited time
Oh okay, that explains it. I just miss it
I've thought about it I've just never hosted anything so it makes me nervous
At least for mining all you gotta do is be at the place and make sure everyone gets 1 hit in on stuff 
Be sure to break stone nodes too, because palium can't spawn in a node location if there's already a stone in the way :)
I read that as "Palium can't swim"
It probably can't do that either tbf
These days, I feel like if one pallium has spawned in a "zone" (Pavel mines, hideaway cave, proudhorn geyser) it pays to wipe all the nodes in the area because pallium starts spawning MORE
LF tips for fishing leveling efficiency.
that's what i do. im notorious for being in hideaway cave and just making rounds then ill go fish or grab some iron or w/e and pop back to see if anything spawned up
or sometimes if i see ppl in fort i'll go to the other side and get rid of more nodes so it triggers the OMG SO MANY PPL FARMING FOR PAL LETS GOOOO spawning
stock up on food for full focus. if you can make sushi, fish stew, and/or the fishermans brew do those. they're helpful. make some rod health boosters if you can as well. if you don't have the worm farm, that's helpful for keeping well stocked on worms. i have 2 glow worm farms and 1 regular worm farm.
it also helps to ask in chat if anyone else is fishing bc if you fish near someone else it helps spawn more of the fishing nodes for starred fish
Yeah thank you for tips, will look more into consumables, I got everything around focus and farms maxed, trying to focus on maxing profs to 50, soo looking for any tips that would help to do that more effectively, and fishing + bugs seems to me like slowest profs for leveling.
Bug and cooking are my lowest
Ok so I read on Reddit that people have found the giant goldfish in the pond on their property. Has anyone had luck actually doing that? I'm hundreds of glowworms in fishing at Mirror Pond and no luck.
Me
I dont count anymore how many worms I use to fish every fish to get the trophy, Im missing the swordfin eel
I gkt my giant goldfish in the pond over by the dragon shrine iirc
yeah unfortunately fishing is just really slow to level. the best you can do is:
- use glow worms
- aim to get perfect catches
- fish from hotspots as much as you can
- use hook time boosts
That 'pond' is sometimes a river x)
Im trying to get a 2nd stormray as well for the upcoming bundle
Those bundles will be the death of me
Could be worth to just do full routes around whole Bahari / kilima for hotsposts only or should be better to just spawn with party one spot and w8 for respawn of hotspots?
Depends what you're looking for
I would bet on stormray, thundering eel and cerulean cicada for the bundle
I pray it does not ask for rainbow tipped butterfly
How is the radiant sunfish only rare? I’ve caught/seen more epic fish than this damn sunfish
lvl 50
Please no more specific fish for bundles, I beg you S6
I still haven't ever had a void ray on my line
I had to seriously camp the mines for hours to get a starred void ray and the first time i lost it to the autofail bug
Eventually got it a second time after more camping lol
Oh that would be devastating to get that bug!
I've camped for hours, and seen people come up next to me and get one on their 3rd cast. My husband even caught one next to me! But for me...no void ray show up 
Fish curse
LOL pray to einar
I got a void ray and s c r e a m e d
If it helps you can ||romance hodari||
Congrats on the void ray!
I got little lucky
Congrats!!
What lvl bc idk 😂😂
||3 completion in a mail||
Sushi recipe fighting me for real rn
I was so excited I got sushi and fish stew within 24 hrs 🤣
Rng tests me
Doing it from home helps if you're catching every fish since you can access storage and fix your pole at anvil
So you dont have to go back and forth somewhere else
Yeah id been doing it at home but i need a change of scenery, so im out by badruus farm now lol
Hahaha i suggest recasting if you wanna not use worms
I got mine at the bluffs pond thingy
Yeah im recasting, worry not lol
Poggers
I get what i want but only if i make it everyone elses problem first
Air temple.. makes some sense. Fortunately I have both fish in excess since Palia and RNG refuse to give me a Swordfin for neither love nor money. On the upside, after the first 10 irl days I have started saving all my pike and fatheads and am building the Colosseum of Pike with Minnow Crenelations on a spare plot.
I too Im missing the swordfin for the trophy, I hope I dont get to that point. Im praying you get it 🙂
I still don't have sushi recipe, but a villager gifted me one after a quest so... 😅 that is done.
Was it gold tho
You also need to cook everything with someone else too lol
Have had ever food
Have every food starred
And cook every food with someone else are the accomplishments i think
yes! :D so i could put it in the temple
Does any one have the spreedsheet that have fish exp so i know such fish give the most?
Ty
sorry i didn't see this before going to sleep 
i don't have an answer for that immediately at hand, but i think it's something that could be figured out. what we'd want to consider is if the extra XP we get from those hotspots makes up for the amount of XP we lose when we're not fishing (because we're running).
my guess is that the optimal XP farming method would be to find a hotspot-dense location and just fish there, hitting the hotspots when they come up. the bit of bahari river by statue gardens might be good for that? that spot can have at least 5 hotspots up at once.
Flooded fortress has a lot of hotspots too
also lighthouse docks have around 6 hotspots (with the spots on the left and right to the docks)
ooh yeah :3
YEEEEEAAAAA BOIIIIII
I started farming, all fishes finally and lost achievement tracking due to bug, so I'm manually tracking them outside of the game and start getting all over again so for now farming hotspots it is 😄
But I just found out one thing, when you relog the game there is a high chance hotspost will be resets. I don't have ideal spot for that so far but I tried it today in Bahari caves and it was really neat + buffs remains.
Solid star hunt today:
finally got a swordfin
grats!
now I need 10 HQ fish including the void ray -.-
I need 5 star fish. The same 5 star fish I needed a week or two ago. I am sad. On the other hand, only 36 more pike to finish the Colloseum of Pike!
Is there a list anywhere of star fish you can get from quest rewards? I got all star fish but no achievement so I'm thinking maybe I got one from a villager quest? 
Shimmerfin is one for sure (Einar), I forget if there were any others
Thank you! It's something to try:)
is there anything that could possibly increase chances of certain fish, im losing hope on the unicorn swordfin fish
Got anyone a tip for me to catch the flametongue-ray? Try to catch him for WEEKS now. Its the only thing unfinished in my bundles.
same 😦
just an fyi you don't need to start over per sey, unless you're just making sure you're covering your bases because you don't remember what you had before then that's valid
but you can skip what you remember having before
Even harder than the sushi. After the bugfix I still needed 300 Glowworms to get it. 😄 (And I dont want to mention, how many glowworms I used, before the bug mentioned ... )
89 starred fish from when i start to collect it (a week ago) , before i think selled near to 200, and not a single ancient fish T.T you guyz got it easy o taked a life to catch? some tips?
I caught it 3 times (1 star) pretty easy behind the inn, both normal ones with 20-30 glow worms
when does pallium respawn?
I will give it a try, thanks. ❤️
palium respawns when the other location passes the palium over
i lost a star ancient fish yesterday cause they're soooo fast 😭 didn't take long to find tho, just started running around kilima getting all the fishing nodes, by the time i did a full round, the first ones respawned
hi! SO, is it just RANDOM when fishing to get Decor/furniture? or is there some way to increase those chances? like... specific worms?
read this conversation: #🏡│decor message
tysm
okay i swear to chapaa but the link they put "https://paliapedia.com/item/jackpot-makeshift" doesnt work? or sends me somewhere else
Paliapedia closed down due to harassment from others over data mining the game
ahhhh. oh darn. so.. basically.. to get higher rates of the makeshift set we gotta use glowworms and fish in the little fish hotspots?
Unfortunately with the full list gone i can't give you specifics
But it varies per location
The best i remember is the 7% chance from glow worms in hotspots at kilima lake during 3 am to 9 pm
thank u 🙂
Finally, finally. I could cry with the emotional overload, lol.
If it helps, I got it easier-ish on the river area behind the dragon shrine, with all 4 waterfalls. My logic was the area is holy or smth so maybe my prayers would be listened. 20 glow worms.
But i caught every single fish before the ray thinking that would help the rng get closer
Yeah thank you for tip. I wasn't sure what star quality I do/don't have so I went all over (I still wanted to level fishing). Now it's fine missing 3 fishes only. It was faster than I taught, I was not focusing fishing so far at all.
I've fished there with 300 Glowworms so far. 😦
BOOYAH
WHY AND HOW
I think I'm still missing sashimi but I got fish stew and sushi!
I just camped out at that pool on top of the cliff by Tamala's, every time I got bored I went down to talk to her and check the mine there. Got a good few palium out of it, and a flow grove spawned right on top of me at one point, too!
It's also a good spot for hunting muujin solo, another thing to do if you get bored of fishing 8000 times in a row
The Colosseum of Pike. Day 6 of collecting them, day 14 of fishing for the stupid Swordfin Eel. Once I am sure how many layers deep I'm going, the fathead minnows will become crenelations on each Pike, 4 per top level.
Holy carp 😂
I am so sad
I was cooking the pike for the first bit, but decided to build with them instead. and build, and build, and build
Well it looks really cool
I hooked ONE Swordfin in the while time, from the middle of a stinking circle, and got.. a NONstarred swordfin
because beta
I have that and the ancient fish to go
Nooooo 😭
Honestly the ancient will be so restful.. just hanging with Einar, waiting on pools to spawn. ladlalalalala
no circles from ff to tamala's down the river to statuegarden, up the river to proudhorn, back to ff
Oh, I didn't realize you could catch it there, yeah that does sound super relaxing
Einar is a bro
Living the dream
lol, i just found out that you can fish in the tiny pond in kenyatta's back yard
just stealing all their koi
honestly I wanted to go fishing today some HQ at killima lake but my achievments got blacked out
I didn't trust the tracker, so I have one starred specimen of every fish and bug. If and when they fix it, I have receipts!
void ray on 3rd try yayy now im greedy tho and need another one for the temple
After reading a bit of the fishing comments and people saying they have gone through SOOO many worms trying to get one specific thing, u actually don't need to use up all those worms! U technically only need one worm for the one thing u need!
When a fish bites look to see if its the fish u want, if its not, let the fish get away and reel your rod back (DONT CATCH THE FISH IF ITS NOT THE ONE U WANT). This will make it so no worm was used! Then just cast your line out again and repeat the process over and over again until u got what u were looking for! :D
Hope this tip was helpful for anyone who did not know about it already 
and if you're bad at telling the fish apart, as long as you don't reel in it comes back if you wait so you have all the time in the world to check again
I was passively cast RNG rerolling for unicorn fish during eating dinner at the same time and got two 
I love the assumption that I have the reflexes necessary to make that snap decision about whether I should reel a fish in or not 😂
teach yourself not to reel
because there is no loss to not doing it (excluding hotspots)
Eh, I'm fine with using a million worms, I like the satisfaction of getting something for the time I spent waiting. Maybe I'll feel differently when I'm through all the quests and only have achievement hunting left to do, but that's a problem for future me lol
Agreed. Also, extra fish means extra gold means more house.
I'm sooooo excited for when I have all the furniture sets complete and can start going whole hog on revamping my house
Related: why is the makeshift set the best set? Because it definitely is and it ruins me that I can only fish them up piece by piece and not make a million of each lol
i have no use for fish gold lul
Did they lower the respawn rate for Palium when they lowered the prices for the starstones?
yes i always let the fish go if its not what i want but sometimes i panic and click anyway 😄 and sometimes i panic and it goes away but if you wait it comes back
though i still take it if i get some cool looking expensive-ish fish even if its not what i wanted
Seems less people are mining right now and are hunting the new animal and the resultant flow trees.
i enjoyed what mining i did do at my plot 
i have been trying to get. a unicornfish for SO LONG
whenever i DO hook one, it gets away. i am going through so much fishboosting food
thank u for mine life
how many glow worms should I stock up on for unicorn fish?
is Sushi available to catch now? i'm imposing on kind people to make sushi with me...couldn't even gift Dari to those who helped me to compensate, at least, coz my gifting is not working...so i would like to get the recipe for myself to prepare for the epics i'm about to fish
yes, it's fixed
thanks i'm relieved to hear, i just need to try and try then...at least it's working!
I caught mine at the hideaway bluffs pond if I remember correctly
Got mine at home 
Fishing seems to be bugged atm, the safezone seems to be overly slow
right once the fish gets out the circle thats a wrap
the mining and wood chopping is on point though
I lovvvvvvve fishing
It just broke recently lol
But its ok cause so did my achievements so I'm not fishing much anyways 
I suggest carrying up to 200 glow worms, and if you don't catch it on your first outing then cook the Black Sea Bass and Yellowfin Tuna you catch into Grilled Fish to feed into your glow worm farms. That'll yield 3 worms each for normal Grilled Fish, 5 worms for starred.
yes i want to get into it but i'll wait for a fix i have no patience s for it now
Me who used like 8 glow worms for unicorn cause i just casually recasted when i was eating dinner once xD that was a fun night
Sometimes I click on accident cause I flinch but yeah lol
that first nibble 
I ended up getting it after like 15 glow worms. Yet it took me forever for a flametongue ray
congrats! 
first catch figuring it out and its a boot 
sigh the left and right are too slow!

Koi!

honestly boots are hard to get so like keep it LOL a dumb weekly want item
Ohok thanks
Was there a decrease in the amount that starstones spawn?
whats the best type of body of water to fish in, in terms of raw gold value
worms and glow worms
It seems the best are Bahari Coast and Ponds with glow worm, a little less you will get for fish from Rivers and Lake. Same with regular worms (but of course here income will be lower). I compared for common and uncommon fish.
how about the caves?
Same or lower than Rivers (only Bat Ray is in the same price as other uncommon fish from Coast and Ponds catched using worm)
Yes, it does seem like they tweaked that.
Does anyone know if I need to use any bait for the "Whale of a Tale" quest or it doesn't matter
no bait you get a whale bone immediately. I got the first whale bone while fishing with a glow worm for the unicorn, but it's way rarer then
ok cool, thanks
HOOKED a swordfin eel yesterday, did not land it. Still, that's the first one I've seen - and here is my Colosseum of Pike I've caught hunting it. I also have 147 fathead minnows to place, too.
Os is there a miner chat or is this one for fishing and mining?
I’m at lvl 8 for fishing as well
yeah this chat is for both fishing and mining c:
Ok just checking
Thought I would share my passion project from the past few days: Fish & Bug Checklist. Took someone's fish checklist template and updated it to suit my needs which includes: space for checking off both caught and starred creatures on the same sheet, larger photos, time of day to catch as text, & bug list! If you'd like it for yourself, please feel free to make a copy! There are instructions on the first sheet. Hope it is helpful to you all!! ❤️ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16iOwNBi7NEW7yVhLBTYxJ6FkRmnD6IBU1mpyzCoGtTA/edit?usp=sharing
whats the best way of gaining most glow worms now after the change?
i just casually toss stacks of crops in my farms and they stack up fast if you slack off on the usage for a couple days
if you want slightly more worms with a similarly easy item to obtain, starred pickled corn i think is the only pickled item that gives 2 per instead of 1
anyone know the node spawn timers for copper?
So I'm working on the master fisherman achievement, and I've found that grilling any duplicate star fish works well, if they are uncommon it works REALLY well. And it's the circle of liiiiiiiiife....
i tried so much to get blue marlin and i got 2 in row now ..

gonna fish in the pond in mayor's backyard now for giant goldfish...
lol I got mine at home
need to try that too
its nice at home since you can just fix your tools at the anvil and if you're catching the fish store them without having to go far
trueee
Plus if you have a worm farm, it makes fishing so nice
yes
ah okay
just caught void ray completely by chance 
and star quality too! Into my tent of special boys he goes 
I've mined all starstones in one session!!!

Just confirming something - That spot where the rivers meet just below Mirror Fields in Kilima is still considered part of the river, right?
strange relict i got it from fishing 😏
I really wish they would stack the fish to 30 in the bags like they did the bugs. It makes it easier. Stacking 5 in one slot is just not enough
if anyone wanted to add me and fulfill my dang trout request i wouldnt be mad about it lmaoo
rescended someone did yaaay
levels don't unlock new fish huh only different quality of rod?
fish type is based on bait type and fishing biome, rod quality only makes them easier to catch
oh ok thanks
best fishing spot for Dawnray in Bahari?
I got all of mine fishing off the bridge at Proudhorn Pass.
ive mined like 500+ iron ore and NEVER got saphire
gotta share that sweet route 😛
Flooded Fortress - throw your rod 3am - 6am -- I get at least two generally - I use both fishing spots there but (I feel, probably not true lol) I have better luck on the north side (by the entrance)
It took me a long time to get saphire too. Its just luck
I do have a specific route i take for mining, there a just a lot more nodes on that route
the catch rate is the exact same no matter where you fish, so long as it's river :3
If you want it star quality you may wanna try flooded fortress or that fishing puddle near statue garden, they usually have a lot of Star fish nodes
thanks for the tips guys 
you can only catch star fishes from the bubbling/puddles spot right?
ahhhh
i hoped for a trick
but nvm 😄
i feel in advance that i will suffer while trying to complete the star fish achievement
is the fishing level raised by the amount of fish caught or the time spent fishing?
fish caught :3
different fish will give you different amounts of xp when you catch them. the highest amounts of xp come from catching fish with glow worm bait, getting a perfect catch, and fishing from a hotspot.
that's my issue ... I'm only at lvl 5 & I'm working towards 7 to get the glow worm farm. I'm trying to sort out which strategy is the best for leveling up. How can you tell which body of water is a hotspot? Is it just a fish it and see or is there a particular one that is a go to? (thx for the response btw)
hotspots are the bubbles on the water that give star fish
not sure if it's worth seeking them out for leveling, but definitely worth catching star fish when they appear near where you fish. If you are low level just make sure you use at least regular worms, exp difference compared to no bait is large
they look like this
i think yes
thank you!
but lets wait others to confirm 😄
It does need to be star
yes has to be star quality to be displayed, same goes for Bugs and Cooked dishes ! 🙂
Thank you!
ahh kinda start losing my motivation in fishing 😭
i steel need 3 for the achievement not to mention that I am on 60% on the star quality ones
I'm fishing for epics to try and finish my collection. This is so tedious lol
oh my god- i got a unicorn fish on my line in a fishing node and it glitched and swam away-

the autofailing gets the best of us 
is it possible that sashimi and sushi are rare drops while fishing? 
Honestly, is there some secret to getting a Void Ray I just don't know?
You have to keep going since it is that rare
glow worm as bait + luck 🙂
Does it matter where you fish?
like in general? yeah.
different types of bodies of water have different fish in them.
so like kilima rivers have different fish than kilima coast, but for kilima rivers it doesnt matter if you fish behind the inn or by the waterfalls where ashura fishes or wherever, they're all kilima river so they have the same fish.
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Biomes
Thanks!
recast it's less painful that way lol
though I also got it starred by just camping the location and fishing every single hotspot that spawned
Question re: Epic fish, is it a higher chance to get when you fish with other people or does it not matter
I've used so many glow worms and cannot catch either flame or unicorn
Doesn't matter
Thanks! I'll stop forcing my husband to fish next to me lol
I'll just keep grinding and crying as I don't get it.
On a related topic, what food makes the most glow worms the fastest, lol
fishing together buff does not increase chance, but it reduces hook time so you will catch more fish per h (same with trout dinner buff),
glow worm number is based on value, formula:
glow worm = value/50 [rounded; min 1; midpoint rounded down]
so the more expensive item, the more glow worms you get. If you do cake parties you can try using star apple cake, but unless you want a lot of worms fast, it's easier to just put meat or mushroom from zeki for a single worm and use multiple worm farms
I'm so dumb I didn't even realise I could have multiple worm farms
I'm sitting here with like 10 picklers
and never even crossed my mind
Time to go make 10 glow worm farms.
Thanksss
Since my achievements are blacked out and restart with every log in, should I even go on fishing for the ancient fish? I have one non- star and I am fishing for the past weeks in hopes to catch the starred one but i don't even see an ancient.
It's generally a visual bug for most people. Mine was, I have the achievement bug and did complete the fish and bug achievements and got the rewards. I kept track of what I caught by placing the gold star fish and bugs on a secondary plot so I could see what I had and it didn't take up inventory space.
Thanks, this is encouraging, i realized too late about the blacked out achievements., but I am starting now to collect fish, bugs and cooked dishes. So me not seeing the ancient fish is not caused by the blacked out achievements, just my bad luck 🤣
flame ray is gonna drive me bonkers
flametongue took me a stack of glow worms and 5x boost to get
im just recasting for it cause I don't wanna get more glow worms at the moment lol
Caught a star flametongue ray a few days ago, used a major safe zone size boost and sashimi and got it easily, it didn't struggle much
Any tips for catching the Ancient Fish? I've lost 3 starred ones in the last several days 😭 I've brought Fish Stew and Sashimi with me, plus a safe zone size booster from Einar. I've never needed any buffs to catch other fish, but this one escapes me every time 🥲
I havent seen a starred one yet sadly only regular
If you have a MAJOR safe zone booster thats better then the smaller one xD idk which one you're using now
Yes! I've got the Major Safe Zone Size Booster from Einar's Guild shop. I managed to catch the regular version last night, but then another starred came up and it moved way too fast for me lol. Thank you though, I'll just keep searching and hope for the best ^^
I can't even get any ancient fish to bite 😩
Can you catch the sushi recipe from the pond on your home plot?
Update - You can.
Does anyone know how the ripples for star fish are timed? I mean, do they show up every 10 mins, 15....?
I’m not sure but you could always go back home and then to wherever you’re fishing cuz you’d be in a new server.
Is it more likely that you catch a rare fish from a ripple, or is it just normal rarity rules, the product's just starred? And does leveling fishing impact how often you catch rare fish at all?
Just starred. The rest is rng.
That's what I've been doing, or relogging if my home timer is not available. I only need some starred fish now to complete the achievement and a few of them are only dusk/dawn available. It's a p.i.t.a. to run back and forth through the zone looking for ripples.
Thats very true. 😅 Some are just a pain no matter what.
cough unicorn fish cough
I haven’t even attempted it. Already stressed. Someone said they used over 400 of the whatever worms to get it and only hooked it once, still never managed to catch it 😭😭
For me it's going to be one of those things where you're not trying to catch it and somehow do. Like with that starred rainbow butterfly. I ran around every morning at spawn time with my buzzy box and honey lures and tried everything. Gave up on it, then was chasing a sernuk through the plains and the bloody thing spawned right in front of me.
I told my friend she has that kind of luck. I’ll be looking for weeks and she’ll accidentally get something not even knowing the amazing thing she got. She got dari cloves like her first day going into Bahari without knowing what they were. 😩😂
and did you catch it? when this happens to me I usually get too excited and fumble for my bomb ending up with my watering can or axe (gah!)
Yes! Luckily! I had one of those "one shot super bug bombs" (not the name but you know the one I mean, the one shot killer). After fumbling for my belt I did manage to catch it.
I caught a gold star flametongue ray yesterday just fishing bubble pools for the weekly. I did not need it for anything. Just my luck, fishing gives me things, the rummage pile gives me junk.
has anyone caught the new decor fishing yet?
fishing is borked for me. i can't cast except for the maximum distance away.
I think this is unfortunately a known issue, the patch notes mention this can happen in some places in Bahari Bay
I've been hoarding so many starred fishies on a spare plot. But Imma need that gold now XD
(the first of about 10 runs to Zeki's I'll need to make)
fishing is broken it way over shoots
You can slow down the throw in settings that way your aim is better
okay so this may look like nothing but if you look closely you'll see that my fishing rod is perma hooked onto something at statue garden and it has continued all the way to central stables xD
same for me
No sign of the holiday items from fishing yet, though? I understand fishing is buggy, but I thought there'd be some sign of the new items by now. Wondering if it the classic waterlogged chests or a new holiday one, and what items people are getting.
I spent a while trying earlier but only caught a few of the standard waterlogged chests with makeshift items.
thats a heck of a strong line you have there!
I guarantee I missed something but has anyone else been fishing 3000m away from where they planned? 😅 I can't actually choose where my line will land
Oof, nevermind, I see @graceful willow message that fishing is broken!
Am I right, that if I stay further from the waterline or cast very short, then it takes less time to reel the fish in? And if so, are there any drawbacks in fishing just on the edge of a blue zone?
nevermind i looked it up, fishing is hard
It might just be fishing on the home plot but it is super borked right now.
Has anyone got any of the festive deco from fishing yet?
Over 100 normal worms used and I've got none so far.
I've been just fishing there and since the patch a few hours ago it was alright.
House does not seem to be constantly crashing any longer 🙂 .
You have to complete a bundle in the Vault of the Waves to unlock Ancient Fish.
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Something's_in_the_Water
Past that it's just luck.
I wish they increased the value of the ancient fish
It's more rare than rubies and it's like 1/10 of the value
harder to get too since just hooking it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. gotta reel it in as well.
How hard is to get the fish stew recipe in Bahari Bay?
Easier than the sushi recipe 
Yeah, I've done all that, I just have the worst luck 👌
I did 2 levels of fishing yesterday with out worms and with flow and normal in ponds and rivers and also main body of water in both kilma and Bahari I have yet to fish up a holiday chest. I did get about 10 normal waterlogged chests Though..
can you fish star quality without node?
Yes
very good to know, thanks for sharing.
no
😵💫
what's best way to stop the always long cast bug when it happens?
Go back to Kilima? I think this is only happening in Bahari Bay.
that's where it happened for me. about to head back into bahari bay... wish me luck! (but also, thanks)
Good luck!
it didn't work, but i got the fish i needed
I can’t see what I’m reeling in with the bug currently 😪
I never get a Ruby whenever I do Mining the Pallum. I wonder if there's a day or time for it. :3
lol fishing is so broken rn
Are you sure? Wiki says: "Fishing from hotspots is the only way to obtain Star Quality fish. "
Does anyone know the answer, please?
only from hotspots
Thx, but I think, that was the other question 😉
same time 
Then it must be the case of observer bias on my part, thanks 😉
Star fish is ONLY from hotspots unless you experience some kind of bug
hopefully if the servers get some maintenance it will fix the fishing
for the fishing we still can't see the cursor when reeling in correct?
100% sure I have caught many star quality fish from fishing Not in a hotspot, Hotspot will always have a star fish. My first Star ancient fish was caught in kilma lake at around 2pm no hotspot.
If you pay atention when fishing you will see that a short cast reels in much slower then a long cast.
I'm over lvl 50 in fishing and have not caught a gold star fish outside of a bubble pool. You might not have realized it was a bubble pool because the visuals on a few of them are suspect.
Im lv 74 fishing , I have done a lil bit of fishing. Have caught many in my home pond also that are star fish. I have however never seen a bubble pool or hot spot at home so it is possible.
any way to help the chances of finding rare fish?
example: trying to find unicorn fish
like are the bobber upgrades just cosmetic? 
no, just luck. And bobbers are just cosmetic.
you could get hook time boosts (fishing together or trout dinner) to speed things up, or use recasting trick (if you don't get the fish you want, wait for it to run away, reel in and recast; it's slightly faster and you don't use up the worm)
Any star fish not caught in a hotspot has to be a bug
It is intended that star fish are only from hotspots
Rare and uncommon fish can be caught regardless but placeable star quality fish are hotspot only unless the game borks
It would be nice if getting the perfect catch would result in a Star Quality fish, while hotspots would be for a higher chance of uncommon/rare/epic fish instead @.@;
That way the effort feels more rewarding than just a bit more exp.
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Good suggestion
can you imagine trying to get a star quality ancient fish this way though 😭
i do like the idea tbh, but it would make the feistier fish significantly more difficult to get SQ versions of
Maybe make a special bait/bonus item specifically for harder fish.
LIke, you have "Irresistible Lure" -Increases odds of rarer fish biting, but you don't get any bonuses to fishing.
Or you could have "Irresponsible Lure" -increases odds of catching the fish, but doesn't affect the rarity. XD
oml i was 1 second away from catching a star kilima stingray.. my inability in catching these nyooming epic fish is making me soooo salty
epic fish are like that f1 gif from lando norris where he says 'i'm moving up and down, side to side like a rollercoaster!'
From patch notes.
Palium can now spawn from any location where Iron Ore nodes also appear.
Um, what? They can't have separate spawn rates then. Will the spawn rates be static or changeable? This could be the death of palium parties, one of the most group-oriented ways to mine.
And it will make pallium farming even worse cause now ALL the nodes in bahari are going to be fought or called out for, makibg mining even worse there
It will calm down when its not new anymore will just have a rough start
yeah, it may be worse at first but it should mean that palium isn't a big deal anymore (the 60% increase already helped)
Bruh why do they continue to screw Starstones into the ground?? You cant lower drop rates to make starstones MORE rare and also nerf prices. So more rare equals less valuable?? Makes sense.
Awww nerfing the best money maker
Oh my i didn't even read that D: i was planning on farming some yesterday now i'm sad i didn't
Ahh I see. Thank you!
anyone know where to get the Bat Ray? or what time is it around? I thought it was the cave but I spent 2 ingame nights there and never saw it once...maybe I just have bad luck. lol
ohhh that's just bad luck
you're in the right spot. are you using worms?
yeah
took me sooo long to get the shimmer fish too
i know your pain, palia bug catching and fishing can be horrible
i didn't see the bat ray for a looong time, but after finally seeing one, they showed up more than the common fish
rough :c if it helps, it's catchable at any time, not just night, so you can keep fishing for it without downtime
that is good to know, I thought it was only out at night because of its name haha. 😅 i'll keep trying once servers are back up
I am just starting out my fishing list. Got maybe 2 rare fish so far.
goodluck!
ty
for the help* ( hit enter way to fast) and also good luckk
Lost 33 thousand gold in citrines alone. I was saving to buy holiay decorations. 🤷
This is why I don't play the stock market with real money.
I saw the changelog and logged on immediately to sell all of them I had been holding
yup, they can spawn anywhere in Bahari now.
more pallium is a nice one though
anywhere there is an iron node can now also be a pallium node, so pretty much everywhere in bahari
so, same amount of palium over a larger area? Or...more palium? Remains to be seen.
more overall
The patch notes don't say more, just says where.
yeah, but it should overall be more
if everywhere has a chance to just spawn as pallium
unless there's a specific amount of pallium nodes allowed to be up at a time like flow trees
It'll just be like the flow trees, precident for that already.
so, since they "fixed" achievements, am i just going to have to recatch every single thing in my collection?
i have pretty much near every single starred fish and bug and if i can't just like....pick it up off the ground and be counted, it's super awkward. especially since it's impossible to gift starred creatures, it seems odd that i can't do it that way
OMG Indigo Lamprey is fixed!! Much better than before when it showed Willow!
so my experiment for this evening mining in Bahari for about an hour and a half...1 Jasper, 2 Citrine, 10 Garnet, 318 iron, 224 flint, 440 stone, 12 palium, zero gold. Yep, that was a hard nerf.
😔
They broke gold hard, I ususally had 4-6 nuggets by then. Also close to a stack of Palium.
yeah, it's rough I noticed from running around
I really feel sorry for new players now. 😦
didn't think it'd be too bad, but I could barely find any nodes up, could just be the other players mining too
I'm a returning I only had 2 days with starstones and decent pallium before this 😭
so glad I got all the new quest stuff that needs pallium out of the way quickly
oh no, I'm so sorry you didn't get to take advantage of it.
Guys I'm dealing with a bug with mining. The starstones are now as rare as clean babies and as valuable as used toilet paper
My money making methods...
Idk about "fixed achievements" mine are still blacked out again when I relog and can't request anything unless I take the item out of storage again...
I don’t have the guide is it a known bug?
i thought it was a temple thing but then i went fishing in kilima and still no guide. can't catch fish unless they come right to me. i thought this was a bug then fixed?
i relogged and the guide came back. all good now.
does palium still spawn on the old spots? like caves etc, or just random nodes
both!
oh great ty ❤️ ❤️
What does morning and evening mean precisely? 3-6 AM and 6-9 PM, cause some fish are catchable in "morning, day, evening"?
.
Thank you very much 🙂
i think that app is a little confusing, because, at least where fishing is concerned, "midday" and "midnight" don't exist.
as in, for fishing, the game only checks for morning, day, evening, and night. so if it's midday then you can catch day fish, and if it's midnight then you can catch night fish.
HMMM 
Idk who made it but it'd be nice for some more clearer indications then
Is it correct then that morning day evening is 3am to 9pm or something like that because I think then that's it
And ill just ping @tribal root to be clarified on the information then 
Sometimes Palia time is confusing 
sooo i believe it's 3am - 6am for morning, and 6pm to 9pm for evening? but you can use the in-game clock as a visual, since it has those little arrow things on the UI breaking up the morning/day/evening/night sections
much appreciated
I swear to god if I get another makeshift firewood holder Im going to scream! I have 18 of them now
Check, if for them to register it's not enough to just move them from your chest (if you kept some) to your inventory.
Idd, interface is actually very good in this aspect, I just didn't know, where to look 😉
Has anyone legit been able to fish the Fish Stew recipe from Bahari Bay coast, cause I've been fishing for days...
I have the fish stew recipe, want to come to my plot and we can cook it?
Hi, yes thanks!
What’s your in game name?
Found a solution! Gimme like 5 minutes and I think I’ll be ready!
@fleet vigil I’m on Europe servers now! Ready to cook when you are
Did you still want to cook or do I go back to NA servers for now?
I know, definitely going to be offering to help them mine, and then offering some of my hoard of palium when we dont' find any.
The nerf would be better descirbed as turning all the palium spawn points into iron spawn points. It's all random, with a slow static spawn rate now.
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Friends, I just spent a good 15 minutes typing in a feedback entry about why the palium availability need to be increased. I encourage you to do the same.
New type of fish in the Temple!
the stormray is very good at hide and seek when you need it the most
Where do u find it? And what time?
I found https://www.paliamaps.com/ to be super helpful
of course I caught a star one....... feels like a waste but I'm not doing this again
(got a starred one already locked)
any tip on fihing in the temple of gales?
Windy ruins in Bahari
guess the fish is only for the quest? no fish pool for a golden version?
Palium is non existent now. Farmed for over an hour 4 palium ore to show for it. Always respawnned tiny nodes
Tha's exactly what we need them to hear from everyone who mines. We have to make a fuss, or the devs will assume its fine.
it only works for the regular achievement. the starred achievement doesn't trigger
I found I found 😮
now I need to figure out if there is a golden version of the ancient flowbug
I'm surprised more people haven't said anything.
answer ||yes the bug has a star version, but how did you get that star fish?||
I managed to get the star bug. the fish is in ||a temple on the backside of the main island. Once you've completed the main quest, the door is open. Around the islands you can find coloured eggs near a symbol. you shoot arrows on the braziers to solve the puzzle, it'll give you golden fish as reward||
happy hunting
ty 
Yeah, none of the normal spots seemed to have any
well the update made it so the spots are the same as iron so in a way its kind of nerfed, until they do something about the odds
since the palium spots had good palium odds, but yknow the change
||can we place it?||
yes, ||but when you place it, it's called a bahari glowbug, but still looks purple||
sick
oh YES after 3 ancient fish, over 20 waterlogged chests and a few hours of fishing i've finally caught the stingray
that bird is mineeeee
never seen the anchient, got 3 golden stingrays..
bet
is the main island temple door open for u?
||once I completed the main quest with zeki||
already did and thats not opened
||it was initially closed for me. Did you get all the eggs? I had 13-14 of them when I noticed it was open.. all 15 eggs and you get a chest. It was also after I solved the temple bundle unlock puzzle. I had not completed the ones for the two sisters yet and it was open||
dunno which one triggers it, just went there when looking for the final log for the sisters quests
Is there any rhyme or reason to Palium spawning? I know they've made it so it can spawn anywhere iron does, but is there a particular time of day for it, or is it just random luck to stumble upon it?
from how people has explained it, it works more like how the flow trees works
random spawn on iron ore
yeah, don't expect to get any reasonable amount of palium in a short amount of time 😔
i got 14 and there is one more on that thing
that one is for solving the puzzle
make note of the type and the mark
not sure what causes the door to open now, thought it was when you solve the final island
ok thanks for your time ill try to figure it out 🙂
i just found that i had to return "home" to triger one more quest XD
what are the recipes you can get by fishing? for housing
None if you mean food then trout dinner sushi and sashimi @ bahari
no christmas stuff? i thought there was something
patch notes claimed you can get christmas furniture from fishing, but i don't think it works rn. So shop above, rummage pile, zeki's hidden presents and christmas tree from shepp are the only ones rn
about mining...is running the iron route my best bet for palium? I played for hours yesterday and didn't find any
Fishing is with any problem? When a fish takes the bait I can't catch it because the green circle doesn't appear and it runs away.
Bug
i can't figure it out. i haven't gotten any palium at my usual areas
every iron node has been giving the chance to spawn palium nodes
so it's spread super thin
I hope they rework it because this is crazy lol and people are gonna start being mean again
my only way of getting Palium is luck now, it's pretty much impossible to find any on purpose or focus on gathering it
Yeah they just....changed it without adjusting the palium spawn ratio
It's like they were mad at the previous version for being actually not painful
Idk why they want people to be mad all the time to uphold fake scarcity
Idk I haven’t had problems finding it. It helps to have a buddy looking with you in the opposite direction, and checking high mountains. I made around 17-20 bars yesterday
I think they need to do a workshop on time to payoff for gaming systems
Okay palium georg
Palium georg-?
Statistical outlier
For every person hitting all the palium rocks there is an opposite player who has to sort thru all of the iron spawns
And regular rocks
Yeah we were also mining the iron and rocks
I broke 30 rocks yesterday and one of them was palium
The gamble system doesn't work and the continuous nerfing of gemstones means we hit the flow tree problem again
you have to provide an ongoing incentive to pick trash
Like I said it helps to have a buddy, like a lot, and checking mountains
I will believe in buddy when the game is designed for buddy
If you have two people mining the rocks in different areas I think its helpful
And not like the world's wonkiest matchmaking system
I've seen 2 palium nodes since they changed it vs a dozen or more per bahari visit before it
Personally I feel like the game kind of is-? Its a multiplayer game
Like okay. Maybe just actually commit to making more stuff to mine besides iron and rock and don't flip every time people enjoy mining the stuff you do add lol
if the game was oriented towards buddy system then there would be a matchmaking thing a la ff14
as it is it's just a really long list of players going in and out and you just have to yell at them if they want to do a thing
Theres teams. Its not like you have to team up with others but its definitely an option
And most of them just kinda vanish instantly at any moment
I would recommend server hopping, sometimes you just get a server of people that arent super cooperative haha (which is ok)
The instancing system made everything hard to coordinate cause there's no designated server layer online indicator stuff unless you friend them
It's like Warframe minus the matchmaking
i mean they could definitely make it easier but in my experience people are more then happy to “team up” and get materials or hunt together
Not always, but a good chunk of the time
the free for all nature really makes the consistency chaotic haha
but the way they handle that content doesn't on average reflect either the experience they show in the ads or match the chaos of the system they made
Im sure you could also go through this discord and ask someone for a team up lol
They should make a channel for that
what I am asking for mostly is a more casual way of jumping in and out
Yeah I mean that would be nice, this is just kind of what to do in the meantime
the lfg channel is just all cooking requests lol
how's everyone finding mining palium?
honestly a nightmare
I'm just lucky I ran around for a few hours farming palium the night before unknowing they'd change it the next day
Is it worse than it was before they did the recent increase of spawn rate? (Like, is it worse than it originally was?)
I only joined november, so the only thing familiar to me were palium routes and mines... based on that, i can say this: Before, I saw like 5-7 palium nodes in the wild each time I visited bahari, just passing by. If I wanted to actively farm it with buddies, and do the route, we'd get a LOT.
Today, passing by but wanting iron, I saw like 3
and that was aaaall around bahari
Ahh ok. Hmmm
I was there a full in-game day
Thanks. I haven't played since the patch but I'm kind of dreading it because I need so much palium lol
yeah I just went around Bahari a few times today and yesterday
1-3 nodes every time I go
p much nothing when two of them are usually smalls and then MAYBE a medium or large
I think we may need to send tickets then D: how bad was it before?
i think we may have to call it out in all chat like flow trees. The plus of flow trees is a bunch of people can punch it and still get it. But palium... if you damage it, the damage stays.
I don't know, I'm returning from September just a week or so ago and was lucky I got to get starstones pre-second round of nerfs and a good few hours of getting a decent (~80) palium bars extra after the recent quest required a bunch of them for furnite ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I have no idea how the people with switch are gonna even do that quest oh god Dx
I completed it when I had a ton of palium, that's lasted me this long. I have no idea how everyone else will do that
ohhh nooo
yeah I'm so glad I got it done when I did!
the starstone rate also dropped. I've been searching a sapphire forever Dx
I wanted one specifically for gifting, not even for selling lmao
I finally just got a sapphire today actually, it was the only one I was missing after multiple mining sessions the past week and it's not even the most sell value one lol
so lucky!!! I've been trying to get one since before the drop rate :'(
good luck, got it from a random iron node
It (before the last couple of changes to pal) wasn't as bad as what you're describing now. I'd do the palium loop and get into double digits of nodes through an hour of playing. Then they increased spawn rates and that was slightly more (not much though because people didn't often mine stone or seemed like). But now it sounds like it's way harder :(
aaaaah im gonna have to mine absolutely everything now, hopefully that helps up the rate
rocks, iron, palium, etc.
It should, I think. But it might be trial and error, and lots of feedback to submit hehe
I just dislike having to mine calling absolutely everything i mine out. I need the speed. It's exactly why I avoid flow trees and just go to groves, I can plan those out.
Don't feel that you need to call things out all the time. Play how you want to play :)
If I see people on the way, I'll wait. Or if there's a big node I'll call it out, but I also play it by ear how long I'll wait - if people say omw I'll wait, but if it's crickets I'll just mine it anyway.
if it was a day or 2, like the weekend, ok... but bruh, everytime i go? a
(Just my opinion though!) :)
I think I'm gonna do that. "Found large palium ore at X mining it at X hour if no one comes"
to me I'll only call out palium nodes when I get 2 together
which never happens now, so I rarely bother
because I just got other things I want to do
it's so rough
F in chat for the death of palium
the last person in my friendship circle JUST finished subira's quest before the update happened, too, that was a narrow call lol
on the other hand, maybe the ore compass will finally work
I haven't started it yet lol oh no that sounds ominous for palium needs

I'm gonna have to test it with an ore compass, maybe a ton then go mine stuff EDITED CUZ UPDATE: forget it, someone tried and the compass isn't good for finding palium because it also tracks iron.
Is anyone else not getting a target for fishing in Kilima?
Yeah. I cannot fish at all, even after logging in and out. Sucks.
I dislike fishing with the passion of a thousand salty suns so I haven't tried it yet, but saw several people reporting it as a bug today
..but the Oneness...
ok I will make one (1) exception for fishing with my best buddie Einar ONCE a day
... once a week.
restart!
fixed it for me each time, gotten it twice today
Did they change fishing or is this a bug? Because it's awful.
They took the brackets away? When the fish bites it turns bright yellow and I have a bar at the bottom. I reel when it's not wiggling but sometimes it just keeps wiggling even though I'm not doing anything and it just wiggles right away.
Is there a technique in getting the sushi recipe?
Fishing in a certain area with glow worms is the only way to get it, you can refer to the Palia wiki for exact details
I've been fishing for days.
In ponds with glow worms?
