🍳│cooking-foraging

[next viper]

these? i do

do you have the necessary ingredients?

[shy edge]

Yep those ones! I'm pretty sure I do 🙂

[next viper]

bahari bream, crab, kimchi?

[shy edge]

Oof missing the kimchi 😦

[next viper]

36 mins

[shy edge]

but i can make one!

[next viper]

i can make it if u want, but were gonna have to wait

[shy edge]

noo that's okay i can make it! ❤️

[next viper]

alrighty!

[shy edge]

im gonna request some and see :3

[shy edge]

what's your IGN? I can add you meanwhile ^_^

[shrewd shore]

hey is the offer to do the muujin bahari still available

[next viper]

Fiona Root

[wraith frost]

Question on cooking the Akwiduu Chapaa has 3x beside it so I thought that meant when I finished cooking it I would have the but I only got 1 so what does the 3x stand for

[next viper]

u shouldve gotten 3 stacks? can u show what it looks like in game?

or well 1 stack made of 3 items, poor choice of english

[wraith frost]

Hmmm kinda ate it right after as I was cooking it to get my focus back up but it didn't give me 3 in a stack it only gave me 1

[next viper]

you sure you didnt accidentally eat 3? because if it said x3 it mustve been 3? kinda like this says x15

[wraith frost]

I'm saying the recipe has 3x on it in the oven selection options but when I got done cooking only 1 appeared in my inventory and not 3

[next viper]

well if ur certain of it id submit a bug report cause thats not as intended

[wraith frost]

Thanks

[toxic mist]

you can also get less if the recipe has been ruined somehow (like if something burns in the oven)

[wraith frost]

Oh that's a possibility then

[calm bison]

Which is the better moneymaker: Chopping trees or hunting Sernuk?

[teal oyster]

those are moneymakers?

[calm bison]

Yes. In my opinion.

[teal oyster]

i htink chopping trees is really ineffective as to get any meaningfull amount of money will probs clog ur sale bin

id rather go sernuk or other huntables in ur stead + it gives plush chance

my money makers are gardening
money cooking partys (epic fish in fish dish)
i was thinking about powerfishing at some point but i got enuff to do as is rn XD

[calm bison]

Thanks for the insight. Back to hunting it is then! 🙂

[teal oyster]

i mean go chop if u want ur amber collection comped or something or need something else from trees but not for money alone plush chance + more gainz from hunting
idk how effective mega flowtree chop partys are where u chop easily 200-500 on someones plot (i never did those never haad a need for hte wood or storage to actually do em)

[deep lynx]

Hi, I'm new. I don't understand the cooking thing. I have a mushroom, I start cooking, it fails, cause there is no prompt to chop it. When I start at the prep station it saiys, no recipes. I watched a few videos and they all tell you to do the things. But what do I need to do to get the prompts to do the things, like for the stew, to cut the mushrooms?

I thought maybe I need to buy the recipe for the mushrooms but Reth doesn't sell it.

[next viper]

Which recipe in particular?

[teal oyster]

dont need sub recipes
did u check the allow starred box if u only had starred stuff?
campfire mushroom grilling cannot fail btw and cookign station cooking jsut works select recipe do the steps on other cooking station never campfire
finish oon the starting one maybe do some pan flips thats it

[deep lynx]

hearty vegetable soup

[deep lynx]

what box? I have only the "use quality ingredients" box

the timer would go down, I had the stir symbol but there were no prompts to do anything so I thought I just have to wait thill the timer is up and it was burnt 🙈

no prompts on the other station either. I still tried both mouse buttons and e and f but nothing happened

[teal oyster]

then bug i guss

[next viper]

Do you wanna try cooking something with me at my plot to see if it displays properly ?

[deep lynx]

I'm gonna try a restart first and try again. So if I have the ingredients I just start it and it should prompt me something to do, right?

no extra reciped for the mushroom cutting needed

[next viper]

Yes, for example F above the stove to stir if it's a very simple recipe you may not even have to chop anything

Mouse click to add will also be displayed above the stove

[deep lynx]

it worked. this time I had the F prompt at the prep station and could do the rest

thanks

[vapid barn]

I had a problem with cooking and I had to use the unstuck option and run back and keep going with my recipe.

[tranquil plume]

Anyone planning a cooking party anytime soon?

[nimble turtle]

how can i best lower the texture of the water? i already have my settings low but now i almost can't see the oysters from the shells

[twin oasis]

Anyone doing a cooking party? I'm needing to stock up on food.

[distant sinew]

good try is the paliaparty website or #1143270926394335282

[worn flicker]

I rely on the sound them emit at this point to find them

[royal furnace]

I've never done a cooking party before but it sounds fun 😄

[nimble turtle]

i always listen to music while playing so that doesn't really work for me XD

[ornate zinc]

Why can’t I make this? I have everything needed

[teal oyster]

u really got the cooking stations? in sufficient quantitites cuz if thats not it its a bug

[ornate zinc]

I have 2 of each stations coz it said I was missing an extra oven. I even logged out and logged back in

[inland meteor]

How many times are we supposed to flip in recipes? I keep doing it right but it just keeps going until the recipe fails

[marsh drum]

that depends on the recipe, but are you successfully flipping? in order to flip successfully youre supposed to hold down and then release the button when it's in the circle

[inland meteor]

oooh hold down! I thought it was like dead by daylight and just click with the circle gets there! Oops! Thank you!

[tawdry night]

I thought the same thing for the same reason LOL

[hard helm]

So I keep seeing people say pumpkins are bad but tbh the Pumpkin Pie food doesn’t look that bad to make and eat

[final crypt]

why black pearl is so hard to get

[marsh drum]

its not the greatest at explaining but in the message ive linked, there's a doc with the breakdown of everything! #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[astral fulcrum]

If I had questions about hosting a cooking party for master social chef, is here the right place? If/when I host I'd find the right channel for the invite but I have a more how to question.

[marsh drum]

here is the right place! and you can post here, in #1143270926394335282 and paliaparty.app !

[astral fulcrum]

I know for cake parties you assign certain ingredients to certain people but with how varied the ingredients are for the different dishes for master social chef, how would that work? Has anyone done a party like this and could guide me a little? I've got a spreadsheet of all the ingredients needed and am working on getting the ones I'm missing but obviously other people have to bring stuff. (I've also never done a cooking party period, either hosting or participating so it's a little intimidating to think about hosting one so unusual.)

[marsh drum]

i think you should definitely start by participating in a few types of cooking parties to get a feel for them in general! and then after that you could tru and set up a post in #1143270926394335282 to assign roles to different people? but you can also just slowly chip away at it by cooking with a couple others by posting in here asking "does anyone want to cook example, example, and example for master social chef?" and go through the list of dishes a couple at a time

[astral fulcrum]

That second option makes way more sense lol

Thank you for taking the time to answer!

[marsh drum]

of course im happy to help :)

if you have more questions feel free to ask!

[ashen oracle]

ikr, so far this month and I haven't gotten a single one

[astral fulcrum]

I swear flowtatoes have ceased to exist. I join a server and they just poof out of existence.

[ashen oracle]

I was just thinking about the same!!! I've been playing for about 5 hours and I only found one

[astral fulcrum]

It's one of the few missing for the foraging achievements in Elderwood for me.

[ashen oracle]

hope so, although the thing about the black pearls is very sad u_u

war memories with the pebble bug that is still there

[astral fulcrum]

Thankfully we don't need a sq black pearl for achievements. The pebble bug is so bad. I asked support to tell me if I was actually missing the ones it said I was missing and they just sent me the three I'm missing. Which marked the achievement complete but the missing ones are still black silhouettes in the achievement. 😭

[graceful totem]

Ive attempted to cook bean burgers 5 times now and failed due to the bean patty mini game cooking stage, the mini game just keeps circling around and won't proc , i need to craft this for the lost and found quest but i seriously give up ,cooking is not fun and about to uninstall because of this

[kindred musk]

try and join a bean burger party in #1143270926394335282 cooking with others is fun and helpful

[mortal quartz]

When my friend group did an "every recipe until it's starred" party, we divided up all of the tasks for each recipe among us (think we were 4 or 5 people) so we few could carry out cooking the whole dish. Then we had everyone else in attendance all do one specific role, usually the easiest one to get to on the UI. For example, for muujin Bahari we just had everyone chop onions; for steak dinner all the guests chopped spice sprouts. There was a large spreadsheet involved, lol

[mortal quartz]

3 wheat for the dough step is pretty rough imo
and pumpkins grow extremely slowly. take up 4 tiles, 15 day grow, 4 harvests of max 3 pumpkins each per plant. Plus also need to grow the wheat, which is max 3 wheat every 4 days. (Most recipes require only 1 wheat each.)

The other pumpkin recipes are relatively good focus per ingredient opportunity cost, but they require heat root, which is not the most abundant and is also used heavily in several profit party recipes.

[rough kiln]

Am I missing a cooking station type? It says stove required but I have a stove?

[polar shuttle]

That means you need a second stove since there's a prep step that involves it c: you need the starting station AND one more

Eventually the higher cooking recipes need two of each station :D

[rough kiln]

ah ok ty

even a second oven eventually?

[misty locust]

😦 i cant get to it

[upper ice]

Is there a mill in the game the player can build to turn wheat in to flour or does the player need to buy flour?

[marsh drum]

you have to buy flour currently!

[zenith mesa]

okay i see why piksii bounce is every game night , cause you dont get seeds once plants are fully grown

[mortal quartz]

Yes, if you miss a timed stir/flip, then it will give you fewer items. Like with steak dinner, there's a timed flip - if you miss it, you get 2x steak dinner at the end. I suppose if you somehow added all the ingredients but missed the second flip as well you would get only 1?

[mortal quartz]

I'm sorry you're so frustrated. There are two possibilities: one is that you've got the "flip game is broken" bug that affects some players, where the flip game just never registers the input. I'm afraid the only solution to that one is to send in a bug report with as much info as you can and after that to always cook with another player for any recipe that involves the flip minigame, in case it happens again.

The other is one common to newer players, which is that the flip minigame isn't "press the button when the circles line up," it's "hold down the button until the circles line up, then release"

[twin crane]

i will cook 3 times each fishing buff food anyone who wanna get some IGN: Erdogan Otzgan

will wiat a but and make some food im groing hungry myself XD

[coral narwhal]

how do i search for friends again

[twin crane]

O key

[coral narwhal]

nvmd found the button

[twin crane]

XD

[wraith frost]

Welp I found my mistake on why I'm not getting all 3 dishes

[teal oyster]

u dont do a stir or panflip in time

[wraith frost]

Yea turns out I was doing the flipping wrong was pushing the button instead of holding the button

[wraith frost]

Nah turns out I was doing the prompt wrong for flip I was pressing instead of holding the button

[teal oyster]

for me when i started iot was click wait for thing to be on the right palce click again
but now its somehow holdclick release when its in the circle cooking is buggy

[mortal quartz]

For as many times as I've made steak dinner since Jan 2024, I can't recall the flip ever working with just pressing the button (vs. hold-and-release)

[teal oyster]

hey thats how it worked for me at the beginning imagine my surprise when u suddenly have to hold and release

[mortal quartz]

Interesting

It's been hold-and-release since Nov 2023 at least: #🐣│palia-newbies message

but some of the minigames do work with a single tap (stirring)

[teal oyster]

but not for me at first it glitched later click and click and hten hold release

[mortal quartz]

It's possible that it used to work both ways sometimes

but hold-and-release is the intended behavior, or at least so I infer, since that's what the flipping minigame tutorial says 🤔

[twin crane]

yeah same here i runed 2 dishes or so XD

[hard helm]

Ah, I see. Guess I didn’t pay attention to the wheat cost

[wanton rock]

yo why cant we make pizza

I wanna say that is all but no really if animal husbandry gives us cheese we better get a handful of pizza recipes
oily anchovy pizza
meat lovers pizza
pepper pizza
veggie pizza

[hard helm]

Hawaiian

[wanton rock]

They would need to give us pineapples

pineapple is the core of any hawaiian pizza and the fuel for its fruit on pizza propaganda

[hard helm]

Pension to add pineapple to next big patch lol

[rough shore]

Any cooking party coming up?

[sage bluff]

Idk what I just grilled...

[tawdry trail]

Check ur fish

[next viper]

Rip majiri

[tough spruce]

Why is my mixing icon still red even though I have the mixing station? Same for prepping station..
Please help!!

[hard helm]

You have 2?

[tough spruce]

It says I need an additional cooking station? Does that mean I need a duplicate?

[hard helm]

Yes. You’ll need 2 of each eventually

[tough spruce]

Ohhhhh okay! Thank you!!!!

[stray knoll]

omgg can any1 explain how you do the patty for the bean burger i cant figure it out

[keen grail]

Don't know what channel to put this in but I'm playing palia and I was gonna make some ⭐bean burgers if anyone wanted to join I was just gonna make a few to place and for some quests so probably will make them 4-5 times 3 burgers each time so it would be like 15 bean burgers total when we are done idk just thought I would invite people sense it's easier cooking in a party ^w^
Only looking to invite 3 people max sense I don't have a big cooking plot sorry I just have a cozy kitchen
My ign is wolf lover1227

[teal oyster]

This is the correct channel for smaller partys

[keen grail]

Okie sweet ty

[past ermine]

Where are all the bushes I need a load ton of fiber?

[teal oyster]

Kilima only

[torn mango]

Is there any way to get a black pearl other than oyster mushrooms? I just opened about 100 and didn't get one. I need one for the home and back again quest

[past ermine]

Nope. I opened like 500 of them and didn't get any.

[mortal quartz]

That is the only way so far as I am aware; they're quite rare

[past ermine]

I only got it from a request because I had found it very early, which was used for a gear.

[edgy shell]

Anyone know how/where get apples from apart from request

[mortal quartz]

At level 10 gardening, if you go talk to Badruu, he gives you a free apple seed

Otherwise, they're a (quite low) random chance drop from the rummage piles in Kilima and Bahari; apple seeds are also awarded by two friendship quests and as a random (rare) drop from Lucky Boxes

[edgy shell]

Ahhh tyy

[vast gale]

humans appear spontaneously from the pink void and bring the gift of pizza with them to the unsuspecting majiri population

[gray vortex]

tbh that would be very on brand for humans XD

[lament quartz]

hey!! I was wondering if anyone could help me make the muujin bahari since I don't have the recipe. I have all the ingredients I think.

[teal oyster]

Wait black pearl is supposed to be rare? Got it on clam 10 or something

[ionic bridge]

I have a dumb question about Social Chef - do we both/all have to actively participate, or can I get someone to AFK on my plot?

[waxen lotus]

I have one or two I keep in storage, the rest I sell. I usually get 1-2 every irl day... Not sure how they are rare

[teal oyster]

Yeay and those clams are also everywhere and a drop from shmoles

[waxen lotus]

Exactly. The schmoles are irritating me though... I want an elder schmole plushie but I keep getting the pinksii ones

[teal oyster]

Could trade it

[waxen lotus]

True. But it seems everyone is always looking for elder schmole

[marsh drum]

not dumb at all! but the other person/people need to complete at least one of the steps in order to receive the food (mixing, chopping, rolling, etc)

[ionic bridge]

To receive the food, yes. But for me to get the Social Chef accomplishment?

[marsh drum]

Yes, because that's what social cooking is, cooking the dish with another person/other people

[ionic bridge]

OK, thanks!

[nocturne chasm]

anyone cooking?

[mellow sluice]

Can I get a Muujin Bahari for the Root Bundle without the recipe by cooking with another player who does have said recipe?

[marsh drum]

yes!

[mellow sluice]

Nice! Anyone available to do so?

[wheat plover]

When are you able to cook meat?

[mortal quartz]

Level 2 cooking unlocks grilled meat at the campfire :)

[wheat plover]

Okay, thank you

[teal oyster]

Wait what can one cook at lv1 then

[lament quartz]

hey!! I was wondering if anyone could help me make the muujin bahari since I don't have the recipe. I have all the ingredients I think.

[mortal quartz]

grilled mushrooms

[proud breach]

I have a question how do get a grillmaster v3000

[teal oyster]

questing and its just a campfire in functionality and u can only get one

[proud breach]

Oke

other question how do i get cake layer i dont know were i need to go to get them

[potent onyx]

Does someone have 1 pumpkin to help me progress with the mission?

[marsh drum]

this is a step in the celebration cake recipe, it comes from baking the batter in the oven

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Celebration_Cake

[proud breach]

tx i keep on useing the oven

[lament quartz]

hey!! I was wondering if anyone could help me make the muujin bahari since I don't have the recipe. I have all the ingredients I think.

[devout charm]

Cooking 100 epic fish stew in aprox 5/10 mins, add me @ trickypickle if you wanna join

[hardy ridge]

I can if you still need it 🙂

[mellow sluice]

I also need it

[hardy ridge]

I'm happy to have both over to cook it 🙂

[hardy ridge]

Add me and ill cook one for you

[lament quartz]

its almost 3 am for me right now so maybe if u could help me tomorrow id really appreciate that 😄

you can add me and when im online again tomorrow ill add u back ign: Emma Everson

[hardy ridge]

Sure can hit me up when you're awake

[lament quartz]

tysm!

[upper ice]

There seems to be a bug with the bacon stuffed mushroom recipe. It says that it requires muujin meat but when I went to actually make it demanded sernuk meat instead. Unfortunately this made me ruin the recipe. Also sernuk was misspelled as I recall.

This may be because the last meat I chose to cook was sernuk.

[mortal quartz]

That recipe will use any meat. Sernuk meat is just the first one on the carousel. You'd need to find the "chopped muujin meat" in the list to use muujin meat.

If all you had available was muujin meat, then the recipe list would have shown muujin meat instead of the "any red meat" variable

Meat chopping options on the carousel:

[prime depot]

Where do yall get your fish for the grilled fish? I feel like basic fish I get dont sell for anything

[teal oyster]

uhm wiht glowworms ... anywhere is good

[long falcon]

What cooking recipe dish has the highest sell value?

I can't find anything that trumps legendary maw pokebowl

[teal oyster]

thats the king

[hot locust]

that feels like a semi trick question in a way.

and grilled fish doesn't gain a net profit, it just combines the values of the 3 fish in question. It can be useful for other things though depending.

[mortal quartz]

The reason I recommend grilled fish for solo cooking profit is that (a) it doesn't lose value if you don't star it, unlike most other cooking recipes once you factor in bought ingredients and starred produce; (b) when you get a star quality one (rate is somewhere between 20 and 50% with unstarred fish), then it's +50% value, aka it's worth 3 fish instead of the 2 you started with. (Grilled fish is 2 fish each.)

It's a small overall gain, but better than the "maybe you'll make money if RNG is kind, otherwise you lose money" of most solo kitchen cooking recipes.

(There are exceptions: dishes like fish stew which require no produce and no bought ingredients, and - unless they fixed the sell value anomaly - spicy honey baked muujin.)

[acoustic veldt]

hi guys

Anyone has Muujin Bahari recipe?

please help 🥺 🥺

[graceful carbon]

I can help you make one
Hurricane4147 is my IGN

[acoustic veldt]

omg Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!

[hot locust]

That logic does make sense, aye. I know some solo recipes that give a minor profit, but mainly you gain it from starring. I think it applies same logic as per the fish grilling, but that is much safer for starters and involves less extra ingredients. >_>

[ionic sky]

anyone have any a layout chart or recommendations they have for a cake party?

[hollow falcon]

I wanted to use some of recipes but some of them is not available, even tho I have every cooking station placed, can someone help me out?

[hot locust]

what recipe? Do you actually have it?

[hollow falcon]

yes, also I have every mats it need

its not only one recipe, there is many recipe with this problem

[marsh drum]

are you trying to start them at the stove? if so, not all recipes are started at the stove! if not what recipes are you unable to find?

[hot locust]

each station can do particular recipes, yeah.

[hollow falcon]

i know that each station has its own recipes, idk if I can describe it well or not

e.g. I have an recipe, in recipe page it shows station required for that recipe, some of them are red

[marsh drum]

you need multiple stations! in order to make each recipe you'll need 2 of every station

youre not missing recipes, just cooking stations

[hollow falcon]

whoops, ty for help

[marsh drum]

of course!

[mortal quartz]

Main recommendation is that if you're a new host, lay out the stations where roles that are waiting for another role can see each other, and where you can see the workflow unfold (to be able to spot places where things might be getting hung up so you can whisper advice etc.)

Also you may want to set up the starter "command station" with an extra of each station in case you need to jump in on a role

If you're not a new host or are mostly hosting for folks who know what they're about, then the assigned seats are not as important

[ionic sky]

awesome thank you sm!

[mortal quartz]

I'm sure other veterans will have other advice!

A lot of it comes down to preference, tbh, and different hosts have different styles/different guests gravitate toward different things

I feel like there is no one, perfect answer to all things, as a result - something that works great for one person might drive another up the wall, haha

[vale pebble]

Anyone have an extra elderflower?

[mortal quartz]

I do! What's your IGN?

[vale pebble]

Just got one from someone! Thank you though 😊

[drifting plume]

Hello. It's been a minute since I played. I seem to remember being able to cook with mixed quality ingredients and now I'm not able to. All my veggies, fruits, seeds are star quality whereas most of my fish, meat, herbs are not. Is there a way around this?

[mortal quartz]

@hot locust from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CqV_SHjfqaYcGcfqg4aVp21tYZACUDNMHYkTo9Wyu-8/edit?gid=1865863363#gid=1865863363 (Adjusted LNY Recipes sheet)

[hot locust]

get a safe storage, put the starred ingredients you DO NOT want to use in it, then use the star tick to activate. THe recipe will pull any starred ingredients it can still use and use the unstarred for other positions.

[mortal quartz]

My math is based on "improvement over opportunity cost" (i.e., "how much better is this than solo processing everything?"), so feel free to adjust the costs column for yourself if you reckon it differently

[hot locust]

I found one of my items wasn't on my ref list, so yeah for updating that to fix.

My chart works off base price and differentiates between store bought and 'findable' items. So I know potential loss value from store bought, potential values per crops and forage (such as the onions), and what I'd gain if the dish stars.

So I can see how much I potentially gain changing parts.... but yeah, it be annoying if the onions aren't counting still.XD

[mortal quartz]

At 73g per dish/219g per round with the more valuable napa kimchi, it's not exactly high revenue, even if you're group cooking it.

[hot locust]

it gives you cooking exp and gives you a little more gold on a processed item. One of the few ways to take one further. that isn't depending on a 30+ minute timer. Just cooking initiative. (at least when it's not bugged)

[mortal quartz]

If you add up the sell values of the gardened/foraged items and the vendor costs of the bought-only items, it's 178g per round. You lose 31g per round if it's unstarred, or gain 41g per round if it turns out starred.

When cooking in a group with starred kimchi and rice, the typical star rate is 66%; this is likely to be lower if you are cooking solo, and lower still with all unstarred items.

Still, assume 66% and that's an average of 195g per round, or 16g value added over materials values/costs and 80 base XP (plus focus bonus). And you have to (get to?) chop a green onion every round. :D

[hot locust]

according to my math, ingredient value is 188 and net gain is 23.5. So either I mucked up somewhere or there's a value gone awry. According to this the lose of the green onion isn't a game breaker by that... but now I got to double check math. XD

Welp. just 25 minutes til I can test it and see what happens. XD

[drifting plume]

Thanks, I'll try that.

[mortal quartz]

(Just 'cause I got curious...

Fish stew with boring ol' unstarred mottled gobi, spice sprouts, and wild garlic has a total ingredient sell value of 146g, or total opportunity cost of 192g (i.e., assuming you are buying your garlic and sprouts).

At 50% star rate, it averages 202g revenue per round (54g unstarred, 81g starred)

Depending how you reckon it, that's either +8g per round, or, if going off the same way of thinking as the kimchi math above (ingredient sell values), +56g/round for a two-minigame-step chop-n-stir soup. Only 40 base XP per round, though.)

[hot locust]

Aye. relatively easy one but slow on the exp. Useful for fish though technically.

[mortal quartz]

Upgrade to enchanted pupfish (which people sure are catching a lot of these days, for some reason) and that jumps to +89g/round on average, which is almost worth the monotony! :D

[hot locust]

that evil fish. XD

[mortal quartz]

Eleroo eel + sprouts ends up at +201g per round (155g/round if you buy your sprouts and garlic because you're too busy chasing Maws to run around in Kilima/Bahari)

lol sorry I'm having too much fun with this

[hot locust]

at this point, any recipe with minimal store ingredients has a chance at some profit if my charts are right, but it's usually as small as using worm farm logics unless you happen to star it, aye. I do sometimes cook food just for the focus though, so I get some off that too.

numbers can be fune! That's fine.

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, tbh most of the time if you're cooking solo you're better off processing your crops and glow worming your meat/forage/whatever eggs and milk you end up with for free from hotpot.

Spicy honey-baked muujin might still be broken, but I just logged off

forgot to test that today

[hot locust]

indeedy. farming and processing is too convenient in comparison, but depending on what you have can be looked at as high speed worming if nothing else, and you can still worm the food after on top of it.

Hot pot gives free food? Gaaaah~

[mortal quartz]

lol yeah, including starred forageables! \o/

40% chance of ingredients bags when you spin the wheel lmao, so you'd best be excited about milk and eggs and starred green onion and heat root 🤣 because the pirate decor bags are rare

*45%

[hot locust]

I mean, free butter is free butter, and that counts for math! X3

[mortal quartz]

though you can always. worm your butter. 🧐

[hot locust]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-latina-gasp-in-spanish-dramatic-soap-opera-gif-12960529119319901085

Time for my Kimchi test! >:D

and I already found some quirks in my math from bad placementsnothing too problematic yet. O_o;

[mortal quartz]

I await your results with bated breath

just realized that the other half of the comment didn't come out the way I meant it to, divorced of tone, whoops

[hot locust]

XD We'll live.

It came out much lower than just not counting green onions, though it was still higher than the minimum. It grabbed my bok choy first and didn't star. Worth 43 each. Assuming the formula is still .3875 or whatnot, I think it ignored more than the green onions or a different piece of it.

With that said, I think that means I had barely any net gain (a few gp) by the logic
testing cabbage next.

'accidentally' starred the cabbage version after dropping the meat piece on the floor. Also both versions gave 130 exp so better than the fish stew at least. Reasonably easy if you don't let the green onion terrify you.

[mortal quartz]

Green onion isn't so bad every other chop

[hot locust]

So starred was 73, so in theory non-starred would be 48 or so. That adds up to the 15 gp difference of the two kimchi's, but still definitely shows something not adding to the math.

[mortal quartz]

(no penalty for letting a line pass the marker, just for chopping when it's not lined up)

The constant in the formula is 0.375, yeah

[hot locust]

Ah. whoops. I have it noted in teh corner. Lemme make sure I actually used it for the math. XD
I did, whew.

It looks like it ignores both the garlic and the green onions by the math, which be a shame.

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, 49/73 starred is the value for napa kimchi, and 43/64 is value for bok choy kimchi, both with the green onion omitted from the formula

[hot locust]

I had to remove the garlic as well to make the numbers line up.

[mortal quartz]

Unstarred kimchi, right?

[hot locust]

the bok choy was no star, nappa starred. I reversed the math to get the estimate unstarred.

[mortal quartz]

Sorry, let me rephrase: the ingredients values you're using in the formula are the values for unstarred kimchi, yes?

[hot locust]

yes!

[mortal quartz]

Hmm

For bok choy:
45g unstarred bok choy kimchi
12g egg
10g oil
27g unstarred rice
0g green onion
23g garlic
total: 117
* 0.375, rounded down

I get 43 unstarred dish value from that.

For napa:
60g unstarred napa cabbage kimchi
(etc., as above)
total: 132
* 0.375, rounded down
result: 49 unstarred dish value
* 1.5, rounded down
73g starred dish value

now with proper escape characters

Is there a mismatch somewhere?

[hot locust]

Ah... I found another error in my formulas. One sec as I change them and see what it does to results (accidentally had it using the full price and not half price of storebought ingredients to math out the food values).

Okay. Now I'm showing a negative net gain.

Yeah, now the numbers line up with just removing onions.

So hurrah to more accurate excel sheet, boo to lost profits. XD XD

Although as a small counterpoint, while there is a small net loss, since you did process the kimchi, it just means part of that profit was lost, so there's still profit deeper down... and you're gambling on gaining extra by starring the recipe.

But hey, 130 exp instead of 40! At least you don't have to make as many of them to level up. ;_;

[mortal quartz]

Is the 130 with focus bonus, or before it?

(It should be 80 base XP, or maximum 160 XP with full focus bonus)

[hot locust]

Whoops. good point. with focus bonus.

[mortal quartz]

(fish stew is 40 base XP, max 80 with full focus bonus, but it's also got half as many steps, so, naturally)

[hot locust]

Welp, guess I'll consider fish stew and fish tacos down the road once i check other math.

[mortal quartz]

Fish tacos have the corn problem :( (and the rolling-takes-forever problem, ime)

[hot locust]

why is corn a problem?

[mortal quartz]

Same problem as every kind of produce for solo cooking profits (eventually you will not be producing any unstarred), plus it's one of the slower growers at 5 days per 3 corn.

Though perhaps the latter is only a problem for folks growing for mass parties

Hard to drum up 100 corn in a week if you don't get that many growth ticks in per day

(and/or don't have too many grain tiles and/or are also trying to grow rice for sushi/sashimi)

[hot locust]

Well I just need to hit cooking 10 and then less worried on that part. Though if you are growing corn, it's at least a good middle crop. Even value seeded or preserved, can be used in fish tacos to process fish (so semi gamble gaining extra on a star), it counts as a harvest crop so you can use it to augment other things the same way as wheat or rice so they still benefit, etc. And if you aren't fishing....don't worry about corn!

Also means you don't have to rummage for wild garlic since spice sprouts are easy.

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, true, though tbh I can't remember the last time I actually bought garlic

then again, I tend to pick it by instinct XD

then suddenly, 120 garlic oh no

[hot locust]

ideally you shouldn't! but I think it's a uncommon forage so yeah, you usually get it cause you go 'ooh, that's uncommon!'

[mortal quartz]

It is, yeah

though a few ladybug plush runs will stock you right back up for sure XD

(shares spawn points with sundrop lilies in S. Bahari and parts of Kilima)

[hot locust]

which makes more standard bug bombs, which means more ladybugs, which means more lilies and IT NEVER ENDS!

[mortal quartz]

[hot locust]

Give or take a clay run.

[mortal quartz]

Abundance: The Problem!

it's like the nacho cycle from xkcd

https://xkcd.com/140/

[hot locust]

See also: hotdogs and hotdog buns.

[long falcon]

Is fruit smoothie bowls worth to make to sell?

[hot locust]

It's not a terrible dish. Like most recipes it works better in a group, but it is also a sweet dish, so it's probably not bad for getting quality+ fertilizer. piksii berries are also extremely easy to find.

I think it's a half decent focus dish too, as I ate a few when I was making stuff.

[next viper]

Has to be a tiny group tho

[hot locust]

True. it doesn't have a lot of steps.

[next viper]

Yeah overprep ruins the advantage of smoothies

[next viper]

Only if you have a million piksii berries you wanna sell

One piksii is 13? Gold. 1 bowl is 140? When starred

But if you're using your 3 apples or 1 berry+milk, go do cakes instead with that. Sugar is also cheaper than milk for fruit+sugar step

[mortal quartz]

If you ask me? Absolutely not. The apple role requires 3 apples per round, and the overall sell value is so low that it ends up being worse than making your apples into jam. And that's with someone else handling the blueberry+milk and piksii berry roles. You'd be much better off making your apples into cakes, or even just turning them into jam instead.

The numbers don't get any better with cooking it all solo. Average 378 to 426g per round (for 66% and 100% star chance, respectively), whereas solo processing all that fruit and the milk would net you 427g if it's all unstarred, or 605g if it's all starred (except the milk).

(piksii berries are worth 40g in a glow worm farm)

[next viper]

The only advantage of smoothies is focus per time spent making it if you do not care about potential gold wasted. But considering your question was about gold, just zont zo em. Unless you're only bringing piksii to the party. Then it's worth it if you're gonna throw them anyway. 142gold per bowl and u get some cooking xp lol. Just make sure it's a small party, so 2 other ppl bringing milk+berry and apples

AAA autocorrect killing me

[long falcon]

Thank you, I appreciate the details in response

Is there like a guide or spreadsheet with how much food sells for?

I tried doing the math but it's dizzying with so much dishes

[next viper]

That's why we have ren here

[mortal quartz]

It doesn't have every possible food, but for the ones I haven't calculated, the formula is provided on the first sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CqV_SHjfqaYcGcfqg4aVp21tYZACUDNMHYkTo9Wyu-8/edit?gid=1661017249#gid=1661017249

and there's a template you can copy, though tbh it's a bit clunky

I'd really love to put this together in a more user-friendly (and me-friendly) way

but I think that might require some actual database something or other, or, you know, code

[hot locust]

I've made excel function codes before, but one of the reasons cooking drove me nuts is the result is almost the same through all of them: minimal gain (if not negative), only half decent if it stars, and in almost every case you can negate that with a group (within reason).

Thus less incentive to really complete my tables.

[next viper]

Yooo imagine an actual online calculator that lets you choose the recipe and tells you what's your profit based on the ingredients you're bringing. Or choosing ingredients you own for it to tell you how much each recipe would profit you that uses said ingredients in a single step

[hot locust]

(also pretty sure one or two of these doing all that does already exist.)

[next viper]

Fish poke gain is not minimal as long as you're not the one bringing fish haha. Imagine bringing tomatoes and getting 2000 per bowl sold

[next viper]

I tried finding something like that before and couldn't though :/

[hot locust]

I want to say the link to one of them is hiding on the palia wiki. I've noticed someone recently has been screwing up some of the charts cause some mushrooms and spices are missing from categories they were originally posted in too. >_>

[next viper]

Guess googling was playing with me, lemme check wiki links

[mortal quartz]

There is one that Yunna (Dahlia del Rosa) made and that I was going to try to update, but it was based only on straight ingredient sell values, which I felt was a bit misleading. (If you don't cook with an ingredient, you don't just sell it straight, typically; you process it and then sell it.)

Yunna was the one who originally calculated the dish sell value formula, way back when :)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tqBJ1j53gV-p1j9b4iRXKhgzLYKTfadeKrrAyjFCMyU/edit?gid=459623770#gid=459623770

[hot locust]

I could be recalling wrong to be fair. Thinking more on it it may ahve been a worm farm math thing. >.< But I feel like it broke down some other stuff too. Apologies if so.

[next viper]

Annie has gold profit on her tracker but that's seeds/preserves

[mortal quartz]

In the end, I wasn't able to wrap my brain around how I would revise it to take all that into account

so it just sorta fell into the WIP pile

[hot locust]

Ah, I have seen this one once at least.

[mortal quartz]

"If you star it, then it's profitable!" also doesn't help you make a decision, because the law of large numbers doesn't conform to optimism XD

and humans are very bad at going "but some percentage of the time, RNG is gonna R and I'm not gonna star it"

...if only I had the FULL relationship between starred ingredients and star rate pinned down. I know it's weighted by ingredient sell value, but I don't have anything firm.

And there are too many possible factors for me to feasibly try to test it; I just don't have the energetic resources for that big of a research project.

[next viper]

Yeahhh would need to be a range it feels like. From X to Y profit depending if you're selling your food or jarring/seeding. Or an option to choose what you'd do with the ingredient otherwise. So you can choose apples (starred jarred) and it takes that into consideration when calculating net worth for processed vs net worth for used in the recipe. But that's gotta be a lot of coding

[hot locust]

any idea what it means about co-op on the fish section?

oh, apparently they have that in the ingredient section too. XD So probably part of something I didn't see in other section.

[marsh drum]

i'm pretty sure the wiki is getting like a table/temple overhaul so that may be effecting it rn but with all the new elderwoods stuff things are being shifted around a lot

[next viper]

Kind of how on garden planner we choose if we seed or jar and how many we use

[next viper]

On the wiki? Cause I don't see a coop section in the table of contents

[mortal quartz]

"co-op" means "someone else provides this ingredient"

[hot locust]

No I mean on the google sheet that got shared.

Mkay. that makes sense there. Thank ye.

I think I understand most if it well enough I could make suggestions of what to display. I think biggest hurdle is having all the recipes visible at the same time: overloads the person looking at it not realizing they're checkmarking the ingredients they're using.

[next viper]

I wish my bf played palia so he could code a cooking profit calculator website 😂

[hot locust]

This is a very not cleaned up style, but basically the spot that says 'hearty vegetable soup' at the top center is actually a dropdown list that pulls from the recipe list on right. It displays the pieces inside the box and their values, shows calculations below. For any that are all capped, I can plug in the item in question using the side chart middle right, but strictly speaking I could make it a drop down list as well... it's just a mess rough draft I built up looking for useful recipes.

I presuming some of those are things you're talking about. and making logistics for cooking parties is also probably doable.

...welp that screwd up.

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, this is why I would want a dynamic display with a dropdown or a search/filter so you only have to deal with one recipe at a time, and maybe a comparison tool... but I'm just daydreaming, because I don't have the skills necessary to execute that XD

[hot locust]

Now without half of it being blank white space.

[mortal quartz]

ooh interesting

[hot locust]

I think the google doc has most if not all the data to do some drop downs and similar on a new sheet within it, at least from the skim I took.

[mortal quartz]

There also used to be a recipe calculator Google Sheet, but it required running (or perhaps installing?) a specific script, and I never could get it to work properly, despite getting scripts working on other similar documents in the past

It was also horribly outdated - like predated the addition of muujin to the game lol

[hot locust]

that it required a script sounds very sus or the person knew coding or macros but nothing about doing excel functions.

(which makes the pseudo programmer in me face palm)

[mortal quartz]

Found it! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13yWJjpDCEeU5mQ_C1AtDLKhGcRE0Wn33hBZ9qCNGoK8/edit?gid=1790719504#gid=1790719504

ohhh wow this was made pre-cake-nerf, back when cakes still used jam!

[hot locust]

...yeah this should have never needed scripts. I don't know why they used them Unless it like, literally generates a new sheet or something. O_O;

[mortal quartz]

From the looks of the Calc sheet, it kinda looks like it does

[long falcon]

Just curious when doing cooking parties how does over prep work with the value of The sell item.

Let's say someone uses a started maw and starred garlic for fish stew and everyone else uses regular garlic

Is that different from

Someone using starred maw and everyone else's using starred garlic in terms of sell value?

[hot locust]

All those variables can be done via function, no script required (no relation to the cooking party question).

It's basically what I linked in picture, minus the option to say they're starred ingredients.

[mortal quartz]

Well, erm... in your specific example, the value of the starred Maws outclasses the value of the garlic by such an enormous degree that whether the garlic is starred or not will functionally make zero difference. At that point, time to completion is likely to be a bigger factor (...and even then, not very big.)

But basically, it depends on whether the starred ingredient is the one that makes it into the dish or not. The first garlic to finish is the one that the recipe will take when the starter does the Add Ingredient step.

[long falcon]

Ahh i see so fcfs for what's used for the actual value of the recipe

[mortal quartz]

This is also true when you have a variable ingredient - if two of that variable item get prepared, then the one that is done first determines the value of the finished dish.

[mortal quartz]

Exactly. Though starred ingredients don't change the sell values of the recipe directly.

[long falcon]

I figured as much

[mortal quartz]

Starred and unstarred calculate in the same; the difference they make (if any) is in part of the calculations for whether the dish turns out starred or not.

(and starred dishes get a bonus +50% to their sell value, rounded down)

And all starred ingredients does not guarantee a starred outcome; there is an unavoidable element of random chance. (Other contributing factors include time to completion and participant cooking levels - we think. I also have a hypothesis, untested, that the cooking levels thing is also mediated by what proportion of the ingredient sell values, or perhaps number of minigame steps, are handled by what cooking levels.)

[long falcon]

Ahh that's interesting

[tiny sparrow]

Is there anyone I could make a Muujin Bahari with, for the Earth bundle ? Please

[mortal quartz]

This always makes me remember a chili oil dumplings party I went to where for some reason the host required that OP veggies chop either onion or potato. It ended up being a funny little race to see whether we were getting expensive dumplings that round or not XD

[hot locust]

To cry or to starch to hunger!

[mortal quartz]

I will, honestly, truly, NEVER understand why anybody requires potatoes for Any Vegetable for focus food

why would you have your veggie person bring 120g of vegetable per round for zero focus more instead of 51g of vegetable per round that also doesn't require digging down through chili oil dumplings' already-unreasonably-long UI and risking a misfire? (Or if you're gonna make them scroll anyway, at least use up some ginger or something.)

[hot locust]

because they like potatoes and gosh darn it they're gonna spud it up, spuddy!

That or they're that one creature from Rockerpods that kept trying to eat them all and they're channeling frustration. >_>;

Welp. time for sleep. Maybe if mood hits tomorrow I'll try and clean up one of those google sheets or something!

[mortal quartz]

Have a good one! Nice chatting with ya :)

[wise rain]

Would anyone like to do a cake party or just cook together in general? 🙂

[mortal quartz]

In addition to here, you might also want to check out
#1143270926394335282
#💬│lfg-chat (for casual small-group activities)
and PaliaParty.app (not an app, just a website for coordinating party signups)

[teal oyster]

I swear 50% of this channel is ren lol

[hearty flare]

I tried posting for a party last night but no one responded, could anyone come help me chop down my flow trees? I've grown a lot and was saving them for my friend and I to chop down but they fell out of the game so I'm stuck alone for now lol

[next viper]

i can come if u still need someone

[hearty flare]

I do! I ended up getting some replies today in the party tab I created but they're not responding again yet

[next viper]

added u, im fiona root

[bronze spruce]

looking for somebody to cook all regional dishes for the achievements , i have almost all recipes but not quite all

[runic jewel]

👋🏽👋🏽

[past ermine]

Wish cooking parties had an invite code system 😭 cause this whole clearing friend list every party is getting old after 2 years.

[royal wind]

Is there an advanced grill of sort? Something better than the camp fire.

[teal oyster]

Theres 1 bbq that works like a grill
U can also use 5 campfires at once

[twin crane]

anyone can cook with me need my weekly partner cooking 😉

[urban relic]

Is there a specific time of day that i can find Heartdrop Lily? Or can i find it at any time?

[stark wedge]

okay its been driving me insane for weeks that ive been unable to find the damn sushi recipe, is there anyone rn who i can friend, come to their house and make it, just for the bundle? i have all the recipe components!

[twin crane]

sure@stark wedge

need to cook with someone anyways so its perfect

[rough kiln]

Trying to do the Great Human Bake-Off quest to make macarons and not sure what to do. I talked to some NPC's about the recipe and the next step it says is to just make it

But It doesn't show the ingredient list, and it also doesn't show up as a craftable recipe in the kitchen.

[stark wedge]

THANK YOU, is your ign emeraldfox?

[twin crane]

no i add you

[stark wedge]

ok!

[twin crane]

@rough kiln youre on the right table?

need the mixing station

[rough kiln]

Let me give that a try ty

[bronze spruce]

anybody has all recipes for cooking in any category like for example elderwood? im trieng to get the achievements

[twin crane]

i wish XD

[next viper]

I have everything

Luna and elderwood and whatever there is for the cooking achievements

[bronze spruce]

would u mind helping me out ? i have cooked alot of dishes generally speaking but i dont have any category maxed lile for example social chef or elderwood chef and so on

[next viper]

Yeah can u send me scs of the current state of ur achievements so i can see what ur missing? Unless you've already written down a list of the ones ur missing

[bronze spruce]

no i will send u screenshots , just gimme a moment

i think i should have all or atleast most ingredients also needed for the cooking

just not the recipes

[next viper]

For some recipes the person starting it has to own ingredients like certain fish or kimchi or whatever so once you send me scs I'll see what I need to get

[hollow bloom]

hi!!!😁😁 id love to attend one Lol

[bronze spruce]

loading into the game now , will send in a moment

[next viper]

Mamma Mia ur in for a lot of cooking

[bronze spruce]

yeah that should be it except luna new year but its not the event time 😂

i mean its what line 20 dishes?

actually 40

[next viper]

Uve done Luna or just waiting to do it next Luna? 😂

[bronze spruce]

i never had the event yet

[next viper]

Ah you wanna get the recipes yourself? Or you don't even have the achievement visible before you go to Luna?

If you want you can come over and we can cook whatever we've got ingredients for from your list cause it's a bunch

Then see what's missing

[bronze spruce]

i mean i want to get the recipes myself but i also see the achievemt so if u have the recipes for it i wouldnt mind cooking them also

[next viper]

Gotcha

I don't remember if I have u in game, what's ur name

[bronze spruce]

i just suck at cooking so i never really did it and now im asking for help here 😂

its x shadow reaper x

[next viper]

Also I saw you're going to be party hunting soon? If you prefer cooking later or another time lemme know

[bronze spruce]

no i told the ppl that i wanna cook first

i think easiest would be elderwood right?

[next viper]

We can start from ew

[bronze spruce]

so?

[next viper]

I'm waiting on my plot

[bronze spruce]

wait did i join the wrong person 😂

[next viper]

Omg lmfao

Well nobody's on my plot so can't be me xd

[bronze spruce]

whats ur ign

[next viper]

Fiona root

[bronze spruce]

yeah im on ur plot

[next viper]

It tells me ur on ur own plot? Is this bugged

[bronze spruce]

im standing next to u basicially

[next viper]

Yeah I don't see u in game, lemme travel somewhere and come back

[desert pebble]

Anyone want to cook together? IGN: Thymae

[quiet smelt]

and having issues with burger recipe being uncollectable?

[next viper]

You went to i8 cave and turned left?

[quiet smelt]

idk what that means haha

[next viper]

I8 is the square area on the map

On the square "i8" there's an entrance to a cave. Go in, turn left, there will be a chest there with burger recipe

[quiet smelt]

oohh sorry i meant when you cook it its not collectable

[next viper]

Ohhhhh

[quiet smelt]

i had a party last night and all the ingredients we’re on it just wouldnt finish the recipe or let me collect it

[next viper]

Ok

[bronze spruce]

@next viper

[sterile igloo]

Has anyone found a star ancient wood seed or star ancient amber? I’m wondering if they exist? I have 120 ancient wood seeds with no star ones.

[hot locust]

are you looking for them in particular or just on curiosity? If they're part of any achievements I imagine that'd be one way to check.

[sterile igloo]

Yes we have been chopping tons of ancient trees. It list them under master elderwood survivalist accomplishment. Just trying to complete the accomplishment

[teal oyster]

starred amber and seeds do not exist the achivement is bugged

[sterile igloo]

Thank you

[ocean heron]

Has anyone had better luck finding the elderflower? I have only seen 2.

[teal oyster]

yeay they grown on deepwood trees i think

[hot locust]

That's where I've always found them.

I don't know if they share slots with the mushrooms there but similar idea.

[ocean heron]

I know that. I have been searching the trees for a couple of hours and haven’t seen any. Since Elderwoods dropped I only been able to find 2 even though I spend hours looking.

[teal oyster]

deepwood trees THOSE massive unchoppable GIANTS

[ocean heron]

Yes

[teal oyster]

south side

[ocean heron]

Yes

I don’t need to know where they are located. I just want to understand the drop rate. Considering I have only found 2 of them.

[gaunt kernel]

hi, i'm looking for someone with mujiin bahari recipe to cook togethert :>

[hot locust]

Has Meaty Stir Fry always been bugged that it claims it wants corn, but in fact takes ANY veggie option?

[past ermine]

I'm trophy hunting what's a great and speedy way to level up foraging? 👀

[ashen stratus]

any tips on ez /fast ways to lvl up cooking? im lvl 9 atm

[hot locust]

Cooking parties and recipes with more steps in them ultimately. Though you ca do speed leveling with mushrooms/fish using a campfire as well. Just line up five, cook, exp profit.

[vast flax]

Hey everyone👋

New here, was hoping someone could help me figure out how to level foraging as fast as possible..?

Waiting another 4 (ish, by my math) weeks of questing for tokens to get that koi pond sounds frustrating...

So any tips to plow through forage levels?

[rustic cave]

Why can't I make this crab gumbo?

[hazy escarp]

hello, does anyone have a cooking party rn? Thanks!

[neon acorn]

Where's the best place to get the wild green onions? Trying to level up my cooking but need those for a recipe

[hearty marsh]

best food to make for focus filling?

[marsh drum]

check #1143270926394335282 and paliaparty.app !

[marsh drum]

Whispering Banks, Chapaa Crossing, and Maji's Hollow!

[neon acorn]

thank you!

[marsh drum]

This depends on your focus level and if you prefer solo or party cooking! Ren has docs dedicated to breaking all the numbers down though #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[hot locust]

Basically pick up anything and everything. More common finds earn less and rarer more. Thus only way to speed is to keep doing it.

[teal oyster]

in my opnion stirred fried rice in speedrun party or cake party i eat it all starred unstarred

[vast flax]

Thanks @hot locust 🫶

Time for the grind 🧑‍🏭

[mortal quartz]

Did you figure this out btw? I can't see anything wrong from the screenshot -- wait. The oyster meat is not listed among the starting ingredients, that's weird. (you can see it in the "procedure" equation above)
Do you have oyster meat?

[mortal quartz]

Solo strats: chop trees (fast but tedious - be somewhere you can sell the excess wood and repair periodically, maybe near the farm in Kilima); pick everything you see while you're doing other stuff
Group strats: XP boosted flow tree parties

[mortal quartz]

From my testing when I ended up alone on a server, there is only one elderflower up at a time on each server. They last for 2 minutes after they are first picked, and then there is a 5 minute respawn timer before the next one appears. Basically, after you pick one you can set a timer for 7 minutes to remind you to go find the next one.

They do appear on a dowsing rod, and if you look at the markers on the map (not just the compass), you should be able to identify which marker is an elderflower and which is a flowtato after some practice. (Assuming they ever fixed it so flowtatoes show up on a dowsing rod in the first place...)

[ocean heron]

Thank you for the information.

[mortal quartz]

@past ermine just saw you were asking about this too

[mortal quartz]

Not ALWAYS, but it was for a while, and the recent patch was supposed to have fixed that... 🤔

[mortal quartz]

I genuinely believe they don't exist. No other tree seed or amber has a starred version.

[mental quest]

blah, I need to level up my cooking, anyone down for some cooking?

[sick kite]

Just joined, but I'd be down to cook.

[vast gale]

Anyone have tips for making a cooking party plot? Is just having multiples of each work station enough?

[hot locust]

So reflections in the pond i am reading? Cheers.

Heading home. Might make a prettier recipe calculator.

[mortal quartz]

That's the basics of it, yes. The specifics will depend on the recipes you're planning to cook and whether you will have folks handling multiple roles, since those will have different ergonomics.

[spare dawn]

Is star quality based on time or something? I'm having trouble with making star quality Chapaa Masala for the cooking accomplishment

[mortal quartz]

Other things to keep in mind:

• the more stations on a plot, the worse the lag; too many extras will cause problems because they ALL activate when a recipe starts
• if you are running a speedy recipe, having unneeded station types on the plot can lead to accidental recipe starts (example: someone trying to cook rice for sashimi buttonmashes a tiny bit too fast, and then all of a sudden you have to cook Akwinduu Chapaa with all unstarred ingredients — good luck!) Removing, e.g., your unneeded ovens and mixing tables prevents this.
• it helps if the host has at least one of each station type close by in case they need to step in on a role (someone crashes or has to run afk)
• "oopsie" stations are very helpful in case someone accidentally starts a wrong ingredient: then they can just leave the accidental one on their station and duck to the extra, unoccupied station to quickly do the correct one

Oh and also: you will want to have available

• a regular storage chest (not a lockbox, guests can't use that furnishing to access their storage) EASILY FINDABLE
• a wardrobe, in case someone needs to change to a non-animated outfit or unstick their UI

I also find it helpful to have a variety of station setups to accommodate different sensory preferences. Some people are more or less comfortable being directly face-to-face with others; some would rather be facing a wall, or out onto the edge of the plot.

I always appreciate when hosts are considerate about lighting (some of the fixtures are very low and very harsh), as well as sightlines for the camera. (Gazebos and pavilions can be really bad about this because of the poles.)

Putting rows of stations too close together can also mean that the UI bubble of the station behind you is in front of your camera and blocking the UI on your own station.

EDIT: re: sensory stuff, watch out for Z-fighting (when two items have a shared plane and it makes the textures flicker and "fight" to be displayed) - building blocks are especially prone to this when they overlap

[vast gale]

Whoa, that's a lot of useful information and tips. Thank you!

[mortal quartz]

Yes, time to completion is a big factor in star rate, and Chapaa Masala has a very annoyingly long timer on the final stir that makes it extra tough.

Cooking with others might make it easier, for that one.

[mortal quartz]

Sorry, one last thing:
If someone gets stuck at their station (which can happen a lot, especially on the stove as a starter) and needs to /unstuck, it will always put them at the very front of the plot.

If someone has to do that, it helps a lot if they don't have to run a maze or a jumping puzzle to get back to their station quickly. Pretty plots are great, but some of the more architecturally-complex ones can be hard to use when things go wrong 😅

[hot locust]

(Cooking Mama Station Plot TV game series.)

[mortal quartz]

I might need an explainer on that one, lol

[hot locust]

To be fair it's not meant to make major sense, but a cooking game themed plot, where you still have to run around stuff cause some of them do that in their games, and it's a TV show so there's extra stuff for the filming part.

Now imagine you go to the wrong kitchen section because of this.

[mortal quartz]

bahaha

I've seen it happen, ngl

I was at one sashimi party where the host had used the Expanse landscape with the floor OFF and the cooking party was held in a building-block-created flying saucer of an arena
(I've actually seen this more than once, if you'll believe it)

You had to bouncyshroom your way over there - on two separate hops

If you missed the connecting hop/didn't aim just right, down you went

REALLY cool plot, very impressive

...couldn't find the chest to save my life. They'd hidden it inside a statue on the back side of the arena floor.

idk, it's always a balance between novelty/fun and function

If you're going to stare at something while you do a repetitive task for an hour straight, there's a very good argument that it should be something cool

or chill, or something

[earnest wagon]

Is there anyway anyone could help me get apple pie recipe

[mortal quartz]

The recipe or the dish?

[storm kayak]

Im looking for help to make a couple gold star quality dishes for putting in my house if someone can help be great

[hallow topaz]

what were you looking to make?

[storm kayak]

Spicy Crab Fried Rice and pan fried dumplings

Also I was trying to figure out if you can just make bread by itself or not

[hallow topaz]

thats fine with me

my name is Jensen O'Orion Adam in game

[storm kayak]

It cant find u and I typed it in right why is this game like this lol my name is Luna Stoner

[hallow topaz]

oops had an extra o

O'Rion*

[storm kayak]

Oooh lol 🤣🤣

[hallow topaz]

my bad i confused myself too

[marsh drum]

you cannot make bread on its own but you can fish up the makeshift charcuterie !

[storm kayak]

That honestly would work for what im looking to slap on my kitchen table thanks

[storm kayak]

My game is stuck on the loading screen to my house give it a min

[weak gyro]

Is there a place where I can see what recipe gives what amount of EXP? I dont see it on the wiki (tho I may be blind)

[mortal quartz]

it's on the Experience page (though idk if it's been updated with the new recipes yet)

but iirc the new recipes except for uhhh one of them (bean burgers or chili?) conform to the formula of 20 base XP per minigame step

lemme check, one moment

Okay yeah bean burgers are 260 per round instead of 280 like the formula predicts

Let me check the others as well

Hm, I need to double-check the loaded flowtato

and the flowtato fries

[weak gyro]

Ur a real one thank you so much. Thought it might be based on the amount of steps just trying to optimize since this seems to be my latest bottleneck ❤️

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, it usually is based on minigame steps (including any flips or stirs on the starter station) but sometimes it doesn't match up

[weak gyro]

Seems like that's true from what I've seen. Made some bean burgs to compare with chappa onigiri (Burgs are uncommon and onigiri are rare ) to try and see if that made a difference but the Burgs definitely paid out more exp

[mortal quartz]

Huh. Flowtato fries give 100 instead of 80.

Loaded flowtato gives 60 instead of 80.

Well, anyway, I'll get the wiki updated.

[storm kayak]

Still looking for help to get the spicy crab rice gold star it won't let me start it

[mortal quartz]

What happens when you try?

[storm kayak]

It literally won't let me start it even though I have starting ingredients and almost all other ingredients

It doesn't say anything either I have all the stations too

[mortal quartz]

do you have 2 stoves?

[weak gyro]

You might need 2 of each station, since you have to start on (say prep) you need 2 prep stations since the one you start on will be occupied

[storm kayak]

I have two of everything station too

[mortal quartz]

Er, what do you mean by "almost all other ingredients"?

Sorry for the interrogation, just trying to see if it's something we know how to help you fix, or something new :)

OH for crying out loud

[storm kayak]

I dont have crab

[mortal quartz]

I just checked the interface myself... do you have soy sauce?

[storm kayak]

Yes

[mortal quartz]

The starting ingredients scroll off to the right and don't show the soy sauce that's required to start it, that's bizarre

🤔

[storm kayak]

Oh now it wants to work after I go out and come back

[mortal quartz]

Oh, weird

[storm kayak]

All i did was go to the general store lol

[weak gyro]

Well if you want a partner to make it I'd be happy to help

[mortal quartz]

If in doubt, server hop... lol

[storm kayak]

I would love that cuz this recpie is a lot to do

[mortal quartz]

That interface issue is going to cause problems, though, I can tell

[storm kayak]

For real like that's not cool at all

[hot locust]

adding a little to the mysteries, I made some meaty stir fry, and as far as I'm aware I didn't use any extra expensive ingredients... but somehow I made a star group worth 42 a bowl and another 63 a bowl. >_>

As far as I'm aware the only thing I changed significant was the meat (used oyster meat I think?) I don't recall those being THAT much more than chapaa or sernuk to warrant a full 21 price chance. But now I'm wondering if I somehow used something extra fancy. XD

[weak gyro]

Right on Foxx Boxx is my in game name send me an invite ❤️

[mortal quartz]

what veggie did you use?

[hot locust]

in theory a simple onion!

but since I didn't find out about the wonk until after it was cooked I can't say with full certainty

Otherwise, I somehow used wild ginger which, doesn't make sense for that step, I think? Do wild plants still count as veggies?

[coral brook]

Does anyone wanna do cooking, I need 5 more levels to get to 50, i have all the recipes

[mortal quartz]

Ginger and green onion can, indeed, be used as Any Vegetable! But they count 0 toward the sell value

[hot locust]

That makes less sense then unless I somehow used one on the first batch at 42

[mortal quartz]

Not a bad option if you end up with too much ginger from foraging and are cooking food to eat

[hot locust]

This is in fact eating food. I was trying to spread out basic crops used at the time, but it's a long list and the timer looms in the background.

I wish it'd just let you set those those things at the start. >.<

[mortal quartz]

Or popped the ones in your bags up to the top of the list; that would be nice

[mortal quartz]

that was my inference

[hot locust]

Pretty sure use I used bok choy on the first one, but hard to say now.

[mortal quartz]

Oh, bok choy also counts 0

Did you use elder clam meat on both?

[hot locust]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-avatar-the-last-airbender-nickelodeon-animation-gif-14828277

[mortal quartz]

ikr

[hot locust]

I used it on the 63 one.

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, elder clam meat is worth 23g base (vs. 16 base for sernuk meat)

[hot locust]

aye, but it shouldn't make a 21 change. So I'm guessing it's from the veggie fiascos.

[mortal quartz]

Elder clam + onion -> 63g starred
Sernuk + bok choy/cabbage/ginger/green onion (any of them) -> 42g starred

It was a combination of both factors, is what I think we're both saying lol

[hot locust]

fair enough. XD Yay for math.

Now to make a pie with all these disoriented bahari bees!

[weak gyro]

I'm building a full party kitchen, should I have sections where all my prep stations are in one quarter around the kitchen or would it be better to make 4 individual kitchen segments? (Where each quarter has a prep/oven/stove/mix station?) Or am I just overthinking things? lol

[mortal quartz]

It depends on the recipes you're planning to cook, really. There is no recipe in the game that requires more than 3 ovens, though, even with one step per person. I don't tend to prefer the "every person has a full kitchen" layouts - they result in many redundant stations, which tends to cause lag, and the proportions are often off otherwise.

I'm not sure if that's what you're describing, though?

[weak gyro]

I dont imagine I'll ever have a full party of people cooking. But I do want a full kitchen where if it ever happens I want to have a good looking kitchen that is also has all the amenities to cook the top tier content. Granted I dont know at my level if I would ever need more than 2 stations.

I love the fact that you can cook with others I'm just future proofing. ❤️

(And I'm still learning just figuring things out

[mortal quartz]

What I do for my "casual small group" kitchen is have it set up for the recipes I cook most often (1 oven, 1 stove, 3 prep tables, 1 mixing table covers most of the bases) and then I have an extra of each of the stations in storage and room to set out at least 2 of them if a specific recipe requires a double

It's much more common for a recipe to require many prep stations vs. many stoves/ovens/mixing tables

But I'm not trying to cook cakes in there...

[weak gyro]

That's what I've been seeing as I'm going through the elderwood quests but I'm such a sucker for

I wanna make a paradise kitchen where everything is at your fingertips. (There's a word for it I'm sure) But it looks like I'm being a bit overambitious and there's no raid boss lvl brownie recipe )

[mortal quartz]

I mean... there ARE raid boss level recipes for sure XD

[weak gyro]

😮

[mortal quartz]

celebration cake, muujin Bahari, lucky braised fish, bean burger

which are 18, 20, 25, and 14 roles, respectively

...maybe 15 on bean burger, idr

[weak gyro]

I love bean burg, ezpz raid boss

[mortal quartz]

rice cake stir fry and chapaa masala are probably up there as well

[weak gyro]

Either way, I want a well laid out kitchen just in case I cant star a recipe (Solo)

And of course they all gonna go on the island

[mortal quartz]

In that case, my ergo tips for small-group cooking include

• you should be aiming to minimize role transition times since people will be doing multiple roles
• make sure that your can pivot from oven to mixing table and/or oven to prep table
• it should also be easy to get from stove to prep and mixing to prep and vice versa
• if someone will unavoidably need to cross the kitchen to get to another station, don't make them run an obstacle course: seconds count with recipes, and having to run back and forth costs time. Better yet, can you move the station for them so it's in a better spot?
• right angles are easier to manage when switching stations than straight lines (takes longer to strafe than to turn)

That's what makes sense to me for "everything at your fingertips," at least

My tiny kitchen based on those principles (except for the right angles, but there isn't room for that in a single corner of a harvest house XD)

[weak gyro]

Those are great tips and I'll take them into consideration! Thank you so much! Your tiny kitchen looks incredible btw 😄

[mortal quartz]

Thank you! It has cooked innumerable rounds of steak dinner, pan fried dumplings, and cabbage rolls, and quite a few runs of muujin Bahari lol

(with added stations for the MB of course)

But, all that said... truly, the most important part is that it makes you happy to spend time in it

The most efficient kitchen in the world isn't going to work if something about it makes you miserable, you know?

[weak gyro]

Too true! My brain loves the idea of having a big ol kitchen, I need to find a curtain to separate it from my main house. But I lovelovelove seeing other kitchens and builds to observe and learn from! 😄

(Goes for the rest of the house too!)

[mortal quartz]

I mostly specialize, somehow, in Very Small lol

[weak gyro]

Actually huge tho, making the most of small spaces takes a lot of skill. I like to think I can do the same but with deco as I struggle to fit functionality as well. That kitchen you posted has both and it's heckin incredible. ++ hun ❤️

[mortal quartz]

tbh my tiny kitchen was inspired by several kitchens from apartments I've lived in

a galley kitchen can be incredibly efficient for two people

Though a Palia cooking area doesn't need to also fit a sink! lol

[hot locust]

But....you don't wash your hands before you start cooking!?

[mortal quartz]

(I had a sink for a while, but it got traded out for the third prep table after the nth time I'd gone to cook a recipe with friends and realized I still had the sink out and not the prep table they needed...)

[hot locust]

Especially after using fertilizer on your garden?

[mortal quartz]

Of course I do! There's a basin and ewer over by the window :)

[hot locust]

Whew.

[mortal quartz]

(and also an outdoor sink near the laundry/washing-up area, which is also where dishes get done)

[hot locust]

good!

[proper tide]

Anyone doing a cake party? I need cash

[waxen lotus]

Like the celebration cake?

I've always done those solo

[mortal quartz]

I assume you were not doing them for cash in that case 😭

[mortal quartz]

You might want to check #1143270926394335282 and PaliaParty.app!

[waxen lotus]

Nope. I get starred ones almost every time which gives a little over 1200 focus. It's great for filling the focus bar

Never looked at how much they sell for

I kinda just assumed it equated out to what the ingredients cost

I have probably enough ingredients to make the cakes 50-75 times by myself 😅 I think? Probably have to double check again. I think the only one I'm lacking a bit in is sweet leaf

[waxen lotus]

Is it better to cook with starred ingredients or regular? Or is there any difference?

[nocturne chasm]

better ingredients give better focus and are worth more than the reg ingredients

[waxen lotus]

Ohhh okay. Thank you for explaining that, I was quite confused about it.

[hard matrix]

does anybody know how often the elderflower spawns on a server?

[tawdry trail]

10pm but spawns at 8pm i think

[hard matrix]

i think that's for the event. i'm looking for the material elderflower

[tawdry trail]

Oh i ever found one

[fallow relic]

Why sometimes when I make food I only get instead of 3?

2

[waxen lotus]

I've only really seen it happen when you fail a task during the cooking process. Like if there is 2 sets of stirring the pot on the stove and you miss/fail one of them

[fallow relic]

I didn't think it would let you miss a step I will pay extra close attention when I make chili dumplings again

[wraith canyon]

if you don't mix/flip the pan/pot on the stove and the timmer runs out, you only get 2 dishes

[fallow relic]

I have the time run out 2 twice on me but that just ruined the meal entire not deduct a meal

[wraith canyon]

ya so for the chili dumplings, you need to stire the pot twice i think. If you miss one stir, you get -1 dish. If you miss both, you loose all of them

If you're unsure the order of how to do things, https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Chili_Oil_Dumplings recommends an order. I usually follow this the first time i make a dish so my timer don't run out

[dire horizon]

Anyone got the Muujin Bahari recipe unlocked and is willing to help me make it?

[glossy sedge]

Anyone know what the best money maker recipe is (aside from the cakes and any epic fish parties)

[teal oyster]

legendary fish partys?
otherwise u could do powerfihsing
gardening
some poeple do post nerf willowwisp catching and u cget plush
hunting is not hat good but kinda ok and u get plush

[rustic cave]

I did not have any, and I couldn't find that listing.

[plain cloak]

Can’t one will do cooking party ? 😞

[mortal quartz]

5 minute respawn timer, 2 minute despawn timer, so 7 minutes after the last one was first picked (same logic as Dari cloves, though Dari are 30 and 5 ofc)

[hard matrix]

thanks, ren

[mortal quartz]

Seems like it was the same thing as was happening here with SCFR :( #🍳│cooking-foraging message

New UI needs some work

[runic lagoon]

where do you go to get the different cooking stations?

[teal oyster]

buy recipe of reth crraft on wrokbench

[runic lagoon]

huh?

[teal oyster]

workbench

[runic lagoon]

my workbench?

[waxen lotus]

You can make the different cooking stations at your workbench. The workbench that you use to create everything else (i.e. arrows, smoke bombs, furniture, etc)

I advise making two of every cooking station.

If it says you can't place two of each, you probably need to go to the town hall and buy the license to do so. It starts out cheap but slowly gets more expensive with each license.

But I'm unsure if cooking stations count under that. Or if you can just place them already.

[teal oyster]

cooking stations dont require license neither does workbench

[waxen lotus]

Either way, you'll need those licenses in the long run though.

[waxen lotus]

Ah, okay. Good to know. I was thinking about adding a third of everything to my kitchen

Mostly so I can host cooking parties. Cause making cakes by myself is getting lonely.

[native horizon]

it is. so funny to do cooking with a pet equipped. real cat hours here and you can't even make them get off the counter

[waxen lotus]

FR! In the little cooking scenes they have, my pet is always all over the counters. Bad kitty, don't get your fur in my cake batter.

[native horizon]

lolll

[teal oyster]

soo realistc

[native horizon]

supurrvisor

[inland chasm]

Anyone got any extra pumpkin stew by chance 🥲

[dawn quail]

how do i get the recipe for creamy carrot soup if i didn’t pick it from delaila’s early quest?

[marsh drum]

it's apart of the ||manners, manners quest from caleri|| ! https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Creamy_Carrot_Soup

[wide flint]

Hello, what are the most popular crops used for cooking parties? I know rice is used for sushi but not sure what else I should plant too

My gardening is still level 6 so I think I don't have blueberries or other crops available to me?

[mortal quartz]

Here is a list: #🌱│gardening message
plus beans for bean burgers and solo processing (available at level 1, just gotta go to the Elderwood and pick the bean plants)

Peppers, cabbages, and carrots are mostly used for focus food

[clear plover]

Could somebody please tell me the cheapest/easiest recipe to practice cooking on the oven?

[tawdry trail]

Veg stew just chopping mushrooms

[clear plover]

Tyvm

[tawdry trail]

Any dragon peat groups?

[bronze spruce]

anybody in the mood to help me out real quick in some cooking ? i wanna make like idk around 120 to 150 fruity bowl , just need someboey who has apples or piksi beeries to speed up the process

[lament quartz]

heyy! could anyone who has the recipe help me make the muujin bahari? I have all the stuff for it just not the recipe tysm!

[hybrid violet]

I can

[lament quartz]

alright Ill add u!

[waxen lotus]

How do I get pumpkin stew?

I need it for this quest I'm on

[waxen lotus]

All I'm missing is the pumpkin to make it

[next viper]

The recipe is from Reths cooking store

[bronze spruce]

@next viper yo do u have some time?

[next viper]

I am gonna take a nap

[errant python]

When you’re cooking grilled fish/meat does it use two of the same type of fish/meat? I swear it feels like it mixes and matches and I end up with a bunch of random stacks.

[bronze spruce]

it can mix , but it prioritizes to not mix , but if both quantities uneven like 1 shark for example and 1 eel it it will mix

[errant python]

Thank you!

[bronze spruce]

does anybody has like 30 minutes tine to help me cook something ?

[errant python]

What are you trying to cook? I’m trying to clean up my storage lol

[woeful scaffold]

Anyone have the trout dinner recipe and willing to cook with me? Lol like one of the last things I need for that bundle

[desert pebble]

Sure! IGN: Thymae

[woeful scaffold]

Yesss ty!!

[woeful scaffold]

IGN Hokee. Sent a request.

Thank you again!

[prime depot]

Cooking the grilled fish is so annoying having to go and select which fish to use every single time

[teal oyster]

it will select same types form inventory first

[scenic maple]

I'm looking to join my 1st cooking party, am I in the right place? - I'm new to discord, thanks

[sage olive]

best place to get Brightshrooms? I've been running around the Bahari for so long and have found 2 😭
sorry if this is the wrong chat <3

[worn flicker]

The bahari map Hodari side but where the caves and ruins are not far from the beach you can get about 2-4 there.

Then you can 2 at the bridge right by the coast(still on hodaris side)

On Tamalas side you can one or two on that stone walkway leading to the flooded fortress.

1 or 2 can be found outside the Temple of roots around the structure.

Another 1 to 2 can be found at the statue of gardens look around the edge.

And another 1 or 2 can be found at the ruins with the small pond by the entrance to get into your plot(though I tend to only get these one at night)

[mortal quartz]

I recommend checking palia.th.gl to get an idea of where they spawn. They show up on a dowsing rod as well

[mortal quartz]

There is a logic to how the selector chooses them, so you can manipulate it a bit

[sage olive]

ty both sm!! 🩷🩷

[worn flicker]

You can also find some at the flooded fortress. But you have to do the climbing on those platforms to get into the central area. There's like 2-4 that will be there.

[vocal summit]

What happens when I get to level 25 in gardening and all my crops are being harvested as star quality, but may not have star quality cooking ingredients like mushrooms or spice sprouts?

[unkempt vapor]

When you do a recipe that requires flipping, are you supposed to be flipping forever? are we supposed to get it right on the circle? Cause I just unlocked the steak dinner one and it feels like I have to be flipping for a whole minute. 😭 am i doing something wrong

[teal oyster]

uhm u click allow starred checkbox
if no starred it will pull unstarred items (but it will only allow u to choose starred first so if u got for example an any spice and dont wanna waste that starred daricloves if thats the only starred spice u got lockbox that one so u can select unstarred spices)
downside of starred stuff its not giftable and when poeple forget to click allow starred checkbox u can comp the dish

[hot locust]

Sometimes it is buggy but you press and hold button to start spin and let go to drop the dot within. I think you want to be at least halfway in to count, maybe a third.

Some flips are faster than others depending on recipe.

[unkempt vapor]

Aaa okay thank you 😭

[mortal quartz]

lol that flip tutorial is waaay overdue for a rework

That is probably the #1 question we see in this channel

[fossil canyon]

Guys 👉👈 does anyone have the recipe for the muujin bahari and wanna help me and my friend complete our bundles?

[tawdry trail]

That one recipe i dont have i wpuld like it myself

[red vale]

literally came to this chat to ask this myself lol the grind to level 20 cooking is rough

[fossil canyon]

RIGHT!!

[red vale]

if you find someone feel free to tag me ❤️ good luck in your quest

[plain marlin]

I have the recipe @fossil canyon @red vale

My IGN is the same, Xori Kova, I'll be online for the next few hours

[patent otter]

Anyone doing a cooking party?

[signal vault]

Hello to all, i am new in the game, i have my cooking skil in 6, what i will cook?, ricght now i cook Akwinduu Chapaa

[jolly sierra]

Cooking parties I have learned r the way to go. I did two parties and went from level 6 to 15 in one day with working all day!

[red vale]

you're so sweet! just sent a friend request, i'll be on for a while too so no rush

[urban parcel]

hiii, anybody know how can i get the flowtatos fries recipe? Also, I already have the bean burger one supposedly, but it doesn't appear on the list when i try to make it

[fossil canyon]

Omg yay!!

[hot locust]

each cooking station holds particular recipes, so the burgers probably on another station.

[plain marlin]

Come over whenever, I've only been playing a week so excuse the state of my plot, Lol

I've opened my plot

[fossil canyon]

Omw

[urban parcel]

yes!! i found them on the prep station, thank you!

[ivory vault]

trying to find this black pearl is going to be the end of me. it's been HOURS

[bronze spruce]

@ivory vault lol i can gift u one

[ivory vault]

it would be a big help lol

[bronze spruce]

@ivory vault im gonna add u

[ivory vault]

thank you so much, trying to find that thing was driving me crazy

[bronze spruce]

lol no problem i found alot of them

if i remember right like 6 or 7 just from mushrooms

random question do u have some waveback plushes u wanna trade ? im a big fan of them but cant really find ppl who are willing to trade

[ivory vault]

I have one, I don't mind trading it to ya

[bronze spruce]

i would love to have it , do u mind trading it for flame frog ?

[ivory vault]

I'd love the frog, I'll go meet ya at the underground to trade

[bronze spruce]

awesome

ill be there in 2 minutes

anybody here who would like to cook with me some fruit smoothy bowl ? u just need to have either star apples or regular piksi berries

[proven mortar]

Anyone with the Lunar recipes got the Kimchi Fried Rice? Last one I need 🙏

[naive spoke]

what recipes am i missing?

[proven mortar]

Left: hot hounds & fish tacos

[naive spoke]

thank you!!

[primal cairn]

Hello, Id like a little advice please. I hve been trying to figure out how the ingreedients work with cooking, parties and the pot luck achievement. I have tried hosting and thought if I started cooking something, it would use my ingredients. which I am happy for, Id rather use mine as I always have plenty. But was told that is not the case. so how do we know whose ingreedients get used?

[hot locust]

I haven't done it myself, but I think one or two ingredients are key triggers from the recipe starter, then everyone else can perform the other cooking steps. If it's a step that needs an ingredient, the starter (of the step) supplies it. if it doesn't require an ingredient (uses stuff made in previous steps) they don't actually need anything.

Something like that anyways.

no clue about achievements related to the items though. >_>

[primal cairn]

the achievements come by cooking together so that part is easy, I just didnt want to tell people to come and use my ingreedients if that isnt how it worked.

[hot locust]

They would probably see it as weird, as it would mean they'd basically gain free money and you'd lose out. So would be my theory anyways. Might still work, but might also set weird misunderstandings for other cooking parties too.

[primal cairn]

fair point. thanks for your input

[marsh drum]

So the only ingredients used from you initially are the starter ingredients and the rest are supplied by the person doing each individual step!

So let's say we have to chop garlic and spice sprouts, and you chopped the garlic, it's using YOUR garlic! but if i'm chopping spice sprouts it's using MY spice sprouts :)

[primal cairn]

that makes sense. thank you

[open cairn]

Can someone help me out with a muujin bahari dish? I don’t have the recipe.

[hybrid violet]

sure. add me

[vagrant junco]

what best cooking suggestion for early and profitable or worth?

[mortal quartz]

Solo or in groups?

[vagrant junco]

what if solo
what if in groups?

[mortal quartz]

If solo, the only early recipe that is much good for profit is grilling any fish you would otherwise sell. (All the other campfire recipes have better profit uses for the materials.)

Once you get access to Eshe's room, you unlock spicy honey-baked muujin, which last I checked (need to re-check) is oddly profitable. But she takes a long time to earn friendship with.

If in groups, you have a lot more options, because you can participate in any recipe someone starts even if you don't have the recipe yourself.

If you are a very new player, in truth even most focus food parties will make food that is better for you to sell than to eat, because your focus bar won't be upgraded enough to make use of them.

[vagrant junco]

ohh, im like hard to find group cooking (like i didnt know i got the recipe or nah)

ingridients on recipe

[next viper]

You don't need to own the recipe if you're not starting. Check paliaparty entries attached in "parties" threads to know the exact amount of an ingredient they're looking for

Sc from random paliaparty. You can see they still have space for someone to bring starred apples+sugar or leaves

[vagrant junco]

ohhh okay then thankss sir

i'll check the paliparty

[bronze spruce]

need somebody to cook fruit smoothy bowl with

[tranquil blaze]

hey is someone able to help me and my friend cook the muujin bahari dish? we don't have the recipe.

[mortal quartz]

idk if I have enough berries for the number you want to craft, but if you've got the fruit to burn, I'll come for as many berries as I have on hand

and/or if you wanna give me half an hour I can go gather more

[bronze spruce]

@mortal quartz i wanna do quite a bunch , i was thinking around 50 x3

maybe even 80,depends how many blueberries i have left and how much mood i have after cooking much 😂

[hollow marlin]

I am also looking for someone with the Muujin Bahari recipe to help me finish my last bundle 🙏

[next viper]

i can help, Fiona Root ign

[bronze spruce]

@next viper yo do u have some time after mujiin bahari?

[hollow marlin]

Thank you!!! My ign is Artyem Stiggs, can you add me? I'm on a handheld so no keyboard 😦

[next viper]

yeah but not doing smoothies, i have like 300 portions of food to go through xd depends what u need

[next viper]

done

[bronze spruce]

yeah smoothies i need 😂😂

its my to go food and i just prefer to do it as a duo because its even faster 😂

[mortal quartz]

Does 50 x3 mean 50 repeats of the recipe?
(50 rounds)

[bronze spruce]

basicially i want to make 50 to 80 which is 150 to 240 dishes total

[mortal quartz]

Okay, I have 30 piksii berries on hand, let me go see how many more I can gather in the next hour, if that's cool with you

[next viper]

Hey do u have plant fiber?

[hollow marlin]

Yes, I dm'd you

[bronze spruce]

@mortal quartz i mean if u have starred apples that works too

[next viper]

Oh on discord? Didn't get any notif sorry

[hollow marlin]

Yeah I have all the ingredients

[mortal quartz]

I don't, sorry

[bronze spruce]

thats fine if u wanna farm some piksi berries i can wait

[tranquil blaze]

@next viper are you able to help me and my friend with the mujjin bahari?

[next viper]

Btw is cooking choppy/laggy for anyone else since 191? Sometimes it doesn't register my chops during chopping mini game and/or lags horribly and/or doesn't register me clicking "make" and it makes me angy cause mistakes and time matters for starred

[next viper]

Sure but make sure you have hot peppers/garlic/fiber

[tranquil blaze]

we do!

we both need to add you in game right?

[next viper]

Yeah then join my plot

[tranquil blaze]

whats your in game name?

[next viper]

Fiona root

[tranquil blaze]

ok we will both add you

are you at your plot?

[next viper]

Yep

[verbal nacelle]

could i also come by to make muujin bahari? i have all the ingredients just not the cooking level and its the only thing i need to complete all my bundles

[next viper]

sure ill be back on my plot in a few mins, gifting npcs

[verbal nacelle]

np tyt :) i sent a request my ign is Miss Nephi

[mortal quartz]

lol this should be enough...

@bronze spruce what's your IGN?

[mortal quartz]

I'd been interpreting "tyt" to mean "thank you, though" but I suspect I have been wrong... what does it stand for?

[bronze spruce]

lol more than enough

its x shadow reaper x @mortal quartz

[mortal quartz]

Wow, that brings back memories

I sent you a FR from my alt

[verbal nacelle]

Take your time 😊

[next viper]

You planning to eat them or sell for profit 😂

[mortal quartz]

That's between me and my piksii berries 😉

[next viper]

That's like 10k of profit no adjusted for the value of piksii in worm

[bronze spruce]

@mortal quartz lol got a weird bug

[mortal quartz]

/unstuck

[bronze spruce]

cant do anything

[mortal quartz]

Hm

Unstuck button or command not working?

[bronze spruce]

im restarting

couldnt open menu , nothing

[mortal quartz]

Dang

[vagrant junco]

eya sir, i guess theese like little harder than i thought
need prepare 100 sweet leaf yah??

[next viper]

People throw parties for different recipes and varying amounts of them, could look for one that is only 50 portions and using something you already own

[mortal quartz]

Can't argue the star rate on those, dang
1 round unstarred out of 42

[vagrant junco]

Aight then
i'll looking for the little cooking parties

[bronze spruce]

its usually never unstarred

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, that tracks considering the proportion of starred ingredients and the generous timer

[bronze spruce]

and fast for a whole 487 focus, best food overall

im happy that piksi berries musnt be starred

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, that helps

[bronze spruce]

and we made what 120 dishes in 30 mins?

just soo easx and fast i love it , no annoying ingredients also

[mortal quartz]

Closer to 20 minutes including your crash

[bronze spruce]

at first i was all about burgers but they take too long

[mortal quartz]

Thank you for sharing your fruit :)

Oh yeah burgers need a whole group of people

[bronze spruce]

all good , i just need a helper to make dish even faster 😂

[mortal quartz]

Well, any time you want to throw a bunch of fruit in a blender, I'll mash up some piksii berries for ya; they're easy for me to gather, and better they go toward something you'll get use of than to my glow worms

[bronze spruce]

i mean i always farm thrm too but its nice to have a consistent cooking buddy , because i hunt ALOT and usually 200 dishes are gone in like 2 to 3 days

[mortal quartz]

This also gave me some good data on the star rate, and I also learned that they SEEM to have fixed the UI jump on controller?!? Huge if true

I'll have to test it at a bigger party to be certain

But that was much easier on me if I could use controller (and D-pad, even, not even the stick like I had to use before) to select and start the recipe

[next viper]

I like how this was a scientific experiment to ren

[mortal quartz]

Most things in the game are, in some sense XD

I enjoy iterating on processes

If you don't test things, how will you know?

[bronze spruce]

@mortal quartz ui jump seems mostly fixed but im a fast selecter anyway , its still not really smooth but better than before

[tranquil plume]

Are there any cooking parties being planned?

[mortal quartz]

I'm sure! Check #1143270926394335282 and PaliaParty.app :)

[old wasp]

Help 🙏🏻

[mortal quartz]

I can help in maybe half an hour, 45 minutes

[old wasp]

Oh thx a lot 🙏🏻

[mortal quartz]

what is your in-game name?

[old wasp]

I do with other friend thx a lot

[sterile oxide]

Hello all cooks and chefs and like. So my cooking skill is hugely lacking due to my social anxiety about joining cooking parties and my inability to type fast in chat as I'm on playstation. I'm thinking I may join one tomorrow night but can anyone answer a couple of questions please?

Firstly I know everyone has roles but if you chop something do you then run over and add the ingredients or does someone else automatically get it to add?

If you join a party on paliaparty do you get to say 'can I be this role?' Or do they assign a role before hand so you know what to get? Or do you need to show up with like enough ingredients to do whatever role they say? For example i could buy all the stuff for cake batter but I wouldn't have 50 sweet leaf ready.

Lastly are people nice? 😅 like if I mess up or take a minute to message back will people shout at me!?

If its simply stand at your station. Chop/mix, wait.. i can do that... I think

[vagrant junco]

@mortal quartz eya, if sweet leaf buy from store and do for cooking party (cake parties) that will profit?

[crude bane]

Why did it let me start this recipe if I NEED stared beans?? I only have not stared ones???

[crude bane]

I already made like 70% of this food already????

[vagrant junco]

owoo GL for u

[next viper]

You do your chosen role, if you sign up on paliaparty you can see which spots are still open - choose the one you like and sign up with your ign name. Most party owners write a whole description when to add them / when to join plot. Let's say your role is chopping tomatoes. You only chop tomatoes. You don't run anywhere to add it. All that is displayed in the role you signed up for is what you do. If it requires mixing it will show etc.

Some people are nice, some aren't unfortunately, but you can go for the parties that are tagged "beginner friendly"

[crude bane]

If I don’t have stared ingredient of a thing isn’t it supposed to use the regular one?

[zealous mantle]

what is Paliaparty?

[sterile oxide]

Awesome thankyou! I will spend the day collecting ingredients (and my courage) and do one tomorrow evening if I can. I'm sure it'll be fine once I rip the bandaid off 😂

[next viper]

Website people use to configuration their parties. Usually linked in the parties threads. Some people don't use paliaparty and decide who does what privately

[mortal quartz]

You can only buy sweet leaf with foraging medals

[next viper]

For example for this step, you show up with 50 sweet leaves and stir them. That's all. So someone starts the recipe, you grind your sweet leaf, wait for the rest to finish their steps/assemble, and again until the cake is baked 50 times

[mortal quartz]

the website is PaliaParty.app :)

[mortal quartz]

...ah, you had one, but not three. Did it give you the "you do not have all the ingredients, someone else will have to do the other steps, confirm?" dialogue?

This is the tricky thing with recipes that require three of one ingredient in one step. If you don't have 3 all in the same quality, it won't let you do the step, because you can't mix them.

In this case, you would need to run chuck that single starred bean in your lockbox so it will register your unstarred ones.

I'm sorry you had to run into that the hard way :(

[crude bane]

Gotcha good to know thanks lol. I have 3 regular ones so assumed it would just do the thing lol

[sterile oxide]

Cool I can do that! Then we just collect at the end yep?

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, normally it does. Personally I think it SHOULD work that way, but it doesn't. Probably a good topic for the feedback form...

!feedback

[covert pivot]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[next viper]

If one person picks it up everyone involved automatically gets it deposited into their inventory

[sterile oxide]

Oooo that's handy thankyou!

[twilit haven]

Does anyone have tips for leveling up cooking quickly? I’m only on level 9 and Muujin Bahari is the only thing I need to complete the Night Sky Temple🥴

[mortal quartz]

If you're cooking solo, the fastest is any campfire food (meat, mushrooms, common/uncommon fish you were going to sell anyway): set up a circle of 4-5 campfires, stand in the middle, and rotate. Don't forget to eat!

In groups, cake parties are by far the fastest XP per time.

[trail laurel]

Hello, anyone with "muuji bahari" recipe want to do one with me and a friend?

[mortal quartz]

lol you and Margot could team up maybe

Maybe there should be a #1143270926394335282 thread for this...

(maybe there already is, haven't looked)

I made one:

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1385334219592696028

[twilit haven]

Thank you so much!!! This is a big help 🙂

[mortal quartz]

This channel has been full of folks looking for help with the recipe, so maybe having a thread specifically for it will help folks match up!

[vagrant junco]

oh

[mortal quartz]

It's very easy to find in northern Bahari, though. Pick the red mushrooms, too - they share spawn points with sweet leaf, so if you pick them, it helps
Map from https://palia.th.gl/maps/Bahari Bay

[vagrant junco]

ight thankie

[fervent kernel]

was the gold value of dishes changed? I now have two versions of akwinduu chapaa that don't stack and the difference seems to be they have different prices

[hot locust]

If an ingredient change modifies the selling price, they won't stack.

[mortal quartz]

Probably two different mushrooms, by the looks of it

[fervent kernel]

ty!

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, the 76g one was made with a morel, and... eh? 64g?

was that from a LONG time ago? like pre-0.180?

[quaint sand]

does anyone else’s game freeze when making the bean burgers

[mortal quartz]

This happens with all kinds of recipes and we still aren't sure why (where even using unstuck results in being stuck, but at the front of the plot)

[bronze spruce]

@mortal quartz wassup , wanna make some more dishes in few minutes ?

[hot locust]

I have noticed mild game stutter going into town here and there. Could be a case doing the various things is just creating some lag throughout.

[mortal quartz]

shore, how many? I have 68 piksii berries left

[bronze spruce]

idk , i know that i have enough apples and berries , not sure if i have alot of milk and blueberries left , i think max would be like 60x3 dishes

[mortal quartz]

60 rounds, sounds good

[teal oyster]

lol ren is now some food ATM

[mortal quartz]

gimme like 5-10 minutes to run afk and grab a drink etc, but I'm home, come over whenever

[bronze spruce]

yeah i need few minutes also , not in the game yet

yo ren random question do u have spare wavebacks by any chance which u wouldnt mind traiding

[mortal quartz]

I have 0 wavebacks

but if I had extras, I would not mind trading them

(I don't hunt that much, lol)

[bronze spruce]

man that sucks i still need 76 more wavebacks but seems ppl either dont have em or want the unobtainable plushes

[hot locust]

Second last word could be part of why. XD

[mortal quartz]

They sense your desperation sagenod

[bronze spruce]

i mean the unobtainable plushes u could technicially buy for very cheap

[teal oyster]

poeple be to busy / elderwoods is not out that long yet so the hunting fantics dont have stockpiles to hand out yet

[bronze spruce]

ill never get my 100 wavebacks 🫤

[hot locust]

Not to mention they take quite a few arrows.

[bronze spruce]

only 8

[mortal quartz]

ONLY 8 this one says

only 8 IF you never miss!

[bronze spruce]

nah i miss from time to time and u still can kill em solo , like i even had a waveback who i missed 3 tiles and still killed him and no i dont use slowdown arrows

[hot locust]

When i hunt them for essence or 'oh, colorful' i slow arrow then pinion them, but if i dont have good angle half the time they go behind scenery. Very annoying.

[bronze spruce]

but killing 50 wavebavks to get technicially 1 plush then takes a while

jsut go very close before u start shooting and after the 4th or 5th hit start following them till u have relatively close distance again so they will spit a second time at u

[teal oyster]

tbf ur super greedy wnating 100 of em

[bronze spruce]

because its the only plush i really like

[mortal quartz]

I only recently started being able to try soloing them WITH the single-stack slowdown arrow trick and sneaking up on them (boing boing) and they still get away sometimes if they dart around a corner

and it's still more adrenaline than is good for me lol

[bronze spruce]

maybe im decent at hunting but i personally wish t3 ogos had a unique ability

[mortal quartz]

I agree, that would be fun

[bronze spruce]

maybe something like blinding u when u get hit by the slime

[hot locust]

Also shooting arrows seems to stop forward movement, or so i seem to always have problems with.

[bronze spruce]

u mean running after the shot?

[mortal quartz]

With some practice, you can learn to jumpshot/animation cancel the end of the shoot animation

however... cooking channel XD

[bronze spruce]

123 dishes in like 15 mins again 😂😂

[mortal quartz]

whoooo

[bronze spruce]

now i have 330 dishes , should last for 2 to 3 days

[mortal quartz]

I'm sure I'll be restocked on piksii berries by then

Just DM me next time you need to cook more!

[bronze spruce]

yeah and i hope ill have enough apples then

yeah of course ill

do u even like that food ?

[mortal quartz]

Smoothies are one of my favorite foods IRL, actually

And they're very pretty in-game

[bronze spruce]

aslong u have some use for it its good, some ppl dont like stockpiling it

[mortal quartz]

✨

[bronze spruce]

lol 1 of the few hundreds 😂

[mortal quartz]

Good news, everyone! Spicy honey-baked muujin is still giving Silly Numbers:

The dish sell value formula predicts that it should be worth 52g per dish in star quality.

Honey (23g)
+ Spicy Pepper (32g)
+ Spice Sprouts (23g)
+ Muujin Meat (16g)
= 94g total ingredient sell value
* 0.375 dish sell value constant
= 35g per dish unstarred (rounded down)
* 1.5 star quality multiplier
= **52g per dish**

And the star rate is unusually high, too.