better-mc-forge

[dreamy burrow]

is it hard to find structures ?

i only get a small huts im walking for an hour and i got nothing

?

[jovial folio]

1. What Minecraft version are you using? (1.19.2, 1.20.1, ...) 1.21.1
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) AT Launcher
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way? (e.g. changing mod versions, adding/removing mods) nothing was changed
4. What version of the modpack are you using? (v11, v9, etc) v42
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? always crashing
6. What steps cause the crash?
   A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
   EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x00007fffe17c2b60, pid=8320, tid=14632

[sweet spade]

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[viral garden]

big structures are rarer

[hazy comet]

how do i make it so that my
minecraft server restarts when it hits a certain ram limit
also id like a chat message to popup before it restart
its a better mc 4 minecraft server
please help

[sweet spade]

it would depend on your server host of how

[dark steeple]

can someone tell me some host comands like godmode etc?

[viral garden]

type / and press tab to autocomplete

[dark steeple]

ingame?

[viral garden]

yes

[hazy comet]

how

[viral garden]

what do you mean how

[clever drift]

help

[ripe swan]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. CurseForge
3. No
4. v53
5. I dont know the crash condition
6. Just started a world and started running and it crashed

latest.log | hs_err_pid18540.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt head / tail (~37k lines) | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

# Problematic frame:
# V  [jvm.dll+0x79aba2]

Found 1 log analysis results:
Jvm in: hs_err_pid18540.log

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[viral garden]

you need to be on graalvm 21

[viral garden]

!openjdk

[versed mountain]

If the issue you're experiencing is clientside, and is not related to a server, then follow the "Java" section in our performance guide for how to switch to a newer, more stable version of Java.

If the issue you're experiencing is serverside, then follow the Java section of our server installation guide.

[ripe swan]

Thank you!

[clever drift]

love you

[little radish]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. CurseForge
3. No
4. v53
5. Always crashes.
6. Once the loading bar says loading mod canidates, it crashes.

latest.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[sweet spade]

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[torpid valve]

how do i upgrade my gear to the netherite diamond? is it a different template or something? i thought i had everything i needed but cant figure it out

[little radish]

It worked, thank you so much

[little radish]

The controllable mod isn't working with the new launcher

[fair blade]

so how come my entire mod pack got lobotomized? I tried to update it to v53 from v52 and it had an error and deleted every mod in the pack and only left the resource pack and the shaders. If any one could that would be much appreciated, thank you

and whatever happend deleted all of my world backups too bro

[agile cradle]

sounds like you didn't update properly. what launcher you using

[fair blade]

curse forge

[agile cradle]

You likely had the "update to new modpack" option checked on when you updated, go back to my modpacks, update the old one again, and make sure that box has no checkmark in it

[fair blade]

ok so im back in the versions list and it still says im on v52

not quite sure what u meant by the checkmarks tho

[agile cradle]

yes. cause it updated to a new instance of the modpack, it didn't change the original

it just made another copy of the modpack itself

[fair blade]

ok so what steps should i take to fix this and get it all back?

[agile cradle]

right click bmc, the one saying v52, change version, make sure "update to a separate modpack profile" has no checkmark in it, then continue

[fair blade]

im sorry but how do i get there? if you could dumb it down.

[sweet spade]

you right click the bmc instance on your cf pack screen

[fair blade]

ok so i did that and I dont see anything that says change version

[agile cradle]

did you make changes to the modpack?

[fair blade]

i added maybe 10 light mods. the only large mod I had in there was alexs caves

[agile cradle]

Does it have a puzzle piece that says "add content"

[fair blade]

yup

[agile cradle]

click profile options, uncheck "allow content management for this profile, done. wait a few seconds, right click modpack again, and it should have change version

[fair blade]

ok ill try that

[fair blade]

ok i did it

[agile cradle]

now follow the other steps of making sure that check box I mentioned isn't checked from the change version screen

[fair blade]

yeah its not checked

[agile cradle]

this one?

[fair blade]

yes

no check

[agile cradle]

now hit done

[fair blade]

so i just clicked continue

[agile cradle]

yes

[fair blade]

and its all flooding back into the pack

[agile cradle]

it'll take a moment to update

[fair blade]

ok

im just worried ill lose my world

ive been playing on it for over a year

i have backups

[agile cradle]

you won't. it's just because you updated it to a new modpack instance.

[fair blade]

ok i hope your right

[agile cradle]

making a new modpack instance doesn't transfer your worlds and mods you added over.

[fair blade]

ok good

moment of truth were booting up now

its making me make a new world

uh oh

[agile cradle]

your worlds should be in there

[fair blade]

nope

theyre gone

im quite upset

[agile cradle]

did you load up the one you just updated, other the other one?

[fair blade]

it had selected v53 automatically

all my stuff was on v52

[agile cradle]

As in the first time you updated or 2nd time you updated

there should be 2 different instances of the modpack in my modpacks

[fair blade]

the one u just guided me through so 2nd one

and no

i only see the one

[agile cradle]

Take a screenshot please

[fair blade]

ok

That’s all

[agile cradle]

Did you delete another one?

[fair blade]

there was never another one

[agile cradle]

Then how did you update the pack first time

[fair blade]

by using the one that was there

the only one there i clicked and used that one

[agile cradle]

ok, how did you go about updating it

[fair blade]

did what you had told me to

[tranquil geyser]

Hey, is there a reason a wooden pick can't break stone?

1.21.1 Neoforge

[fair blade]

i right clicked then clicked change version then clicked donw

[tranquil geyser]

Like the break particles happen but the block stays, like there's TPS lag or something

[agile cradle]

you said it didn't show change version cause of adding mods though

So which is it

[tranquil geyser]

But I can break wood and dirt like normal

[agile cradle]

!fps

[versed mountain]

https://wiki.lunapixel.gg/performance-guide

[tranquil geyser]

It doesn't seem like a performance issue

[agile cradle]

is it a server or single player

[tranquil geyser]

Singleplayer

[agile cradle]

what launcher you using

[tranquil geyser]

Like I said it's just stone

Curseforge

[agile cradle]

any changes to the pack?

[tranquil geyser]

Nope

Literally downloaded it today

Ill try to take a vide

[fair blade]

Yeah so I checked off the box that said allow changes to mod pack or whatever and I proceeded to do like you said

[agile cradle]

the first time you updated, when you said you had tried updating and it wasn't showing your worlds

before talking to me

[tranquil geyser]

Huh

Nevermind, it fixed itself

[fair blade]

Oh ok so I just clicked update on the versions section of the modpack and it tried to do that and then it just lobotomized itself instead

Deleted everything but the resource and shader packs

Even all of my world backups

Gone.

[agile cradle]

I've never heard of it messing up like that. Just to prevent further issues, try using atlauncher or prism instead, they don't screw up downloads like curseforge does

[fair blade]

Alright. Well atleast inform the team about this issue. I don’t want anyone else to go through this

Absolutely crushed about my world

But thank you for your time

I appreciate it

[agile cradle]

We have told curse in the past about the issues far as I'm aware, but it is known to break downloads sadly

[gusty swan]

Is there a folder for worlds?

like where would I find all my created worlds in files?

@agile cradle ?

[agile cradle]

please don't ping staff

[gusty swan]

my bad

[agile cradle]

!alternates this has some info of where the worlds are

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[gusty swan]

oh yeah thanks

it helped

[fair blade]

Wow curseforge sucks for that

[wooden marsh]

hey does anyone know why i cant join a server when i try it say internal exception; java.lang.nullpointerexception; cannot invoke net.minecraft.nbt.compoundtag.m_128459__[string] because nbt is full also sorry for this

[viral garden]

what modpack and modpack version are you on

[wooden marsh]

im using a custom modpack but in includes all the mods here on version 51

[sweet spade]

!modified

[versed mountain]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[viral garden]

check your recycling bin and download the Everything program and search for your world name there

[finite hound]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]

2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
   ATLauncher

3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
   Nope! playing as is.

4. v53

5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
   This is my first time playing the modpack

6. What steps cause the crash?
   I'm not sure, I was traveling in the end, zoomed in on what looked to be a cave, and then my game crashed and now the complete instance will not load.

latest.log | hs_err_pid40064.log | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | i9-13900k might be the reason for the crash

# Problematic frame:
# V  [jvm.dll+0x30b49d]

Found 1 log analysis results:
Jvm in: hs_err_pid40064.log

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[sweet spade]

!openjdk

[versed mountain]

If the issue you're experiencing is clientside, and is not related to a server, then follow the "Java" section in our performance guide for how to switch to a newer, more stable version of Java.

If the issue you're experiencing is serverside, then follow the Java section of our server installation guide.

[finite hound]

its always java 😅
thank you so much

[ember meadow]

i need help with : Better MC 4 - v43 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v43
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-11-03_22.24.45-client.txt | session_20251103_213056.log | crash_assistant_app.log

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

130 added, 53 removed, 3 updated.

[sweet spade]

ok so multiple things here

one

!modified

[versed mountain]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[sweet spade]

two

!modrinth

[versed mountain]

Currently LPS packs are not being updated on the Modrinth site, and as such are outdated. This is while the devs figure out a way to automate uploads of the pack properly.

Until the packs can be properly updated, we recommend using ATL (use !alternates in #bots for further info on the installation process ) or Prism launcher. You can download the CurseForge version of our packs on these launchers while still being able to make instances from Modrinth versions of other packs not owned by us.

Please note this does not apply to individual mod projects of developers at LPS.

[ember meadow]

Ty

[dawn plover]

is there something that i need to change in order to get the pack to even load up i have it on both curseforge and ATlauncher and it wont load on either. ( i have better MC5)

[agile cradle]

What happens when you try loading it on atlauncher? Does it crash, kinda get stuck? What version of bmc5 you using?

[warped seal]

Currently having an issue where a member of my minecraft server can't break blocks or interact like they are stuck in adventure mode. I tried giving them op, force changing their game mode and its not working. We reinstalled the modpack and its not working either

[agile cradle]

how is the server hosted?

[warped seal]

BisectHosting

[dawn plover]

It doesn’t do anything at all, starts the loading process and crashes before it does anything at all.

I’m using 21.1.210 on ATlauncher
And 21.1.211 Cursedforge.

Game version is 1.21.1 for both

[agile cradle]

was the pack pre-installed by bisect, or did you install the serverpack yourself? Did you make any sort of changes to the pack itself?

[warped seal]

Preinstalled the modpack through them, only added the Umapyoi mod (which is compatible). The other handful of people playing doesn't have this issue except for them.

[sweet spade]

are they near spawn

[warped seal]

no, they are over 1000 blocks away

[sweet spade]

it might be an issue on their end if its just them having the issue

[agile cradle]

are they in someone's claim? anything specific pop up in chat?

[warped seal]

no claims have been made, they had no pop up either

its a very interesting issue

[agile cradle]

could it be the mod you added?

[warped seal]

thats what i thought too, so i disabled it. still had the same issue

should i try deleting the player data and seeing if that works?

[agile cradle]

Is your friend from a region that may have issues with the ping of where the server is from bisect?

[warped seal]

nope, their ping was 84

[agile cradle]

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[dawn plover]

It is a pre set pack I downloaded. The one on Curseforge says by LunaPixelStudios

[agile cradle]

you need to provide the information from crash assistant since it is crashing

[sweet spade]

they were talking to the other person, that question is not relevant to your issue

[dawn plover]

It doesn’t give an actual crash report, I read the log and it says Minecraft crashed

[agile cradle]

No, we need you to use the crash assistant screen, the "upload all and copy" button, wait for it to finish uploading, and paste it here

[dawn plover]

https://paste.atlauncher.com/view/c7eeacc8-77da-4b98-8d5d-e1476c398c77

this is from ATlauncher

[agile cradle]

!cva please watch the video

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[warped seal]

seems as if deleting the player data fixed the issue, thanks for helping ❤️

[sweet spade]

!drivers

[versed mountain]

You (likely) need to update your graphics drivers in order to resolve the crash. Here's how to go about doing that!

1. Identify your graphics card
if you already know skip to the next step

• Open task manager
• Navigate to the "Performance" tab (on Windows 11 this is the button that looks like a heart pulse)
• Press the GPU 0 graph and read your GPU from the top right

Note:
In some cases you may see a GPU 0 and GPU 1. This means your CPU has its own GPU, as well as a dedicated one. You probably want GPU 1 (which is usually the better one), but you can ask staff to clarify if necessary.

2. Download your drivers from the manufacturers site
Depending on what you read before, you likely need drivers from either AMD, Intel, or NVIDIA

AMD: https://www.amd.com/en/support
Intel: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download-center/home.html
NVIDIA: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

Note:

• For NVIDIA you want to select "Game Ready Driver (GRD)" (this is the default option) for the best performance. Once installing you'd probably prefer downloading GeForce Experience, which will notify you when there's an available drivers update.
• For Intel, you probably want to press "Get Started" under the "Automatically update your drivers and software", which will simplify the process and update everything automatically
• For AMD you probably want to just press "Download Windows Drivers", which will download something called AMD Adrenaline, which will update your drivers automatically.

3. Run the installation, restart your computer, and try playing MC again

• At this point, hopefully your Minecraft is running. If it still does not work, please post any new logs and staff will help assist you with finding the right solution.

[dawn plover]

okay ill look again thank you

[high spear]

What makes the goblin traders spawn with names in BMC5? We have an insane amount of them in an underground base because they never despawn with names but they spawn with names so none of them ever despawn. We'd like to make them spawn without names then when we nametag one they become persistent

[viral garden]

thats a feature of the base goblin traders mod

put them in cages if you dont want them to despawn

or if you want to get rid of one just kill it

[high spear]

Is there not a config to make them spawn without names? I didn't see a setting in the goblin trader config file itself but maybe there's more than one config for goblin traders

[viral garden]

then theres no way to disable it

[high spear]

Dang. So cages to prevent despawns and set the config to false for prevent despawns when named

[viral garden]

ig

[fresh niche]

When I try to open up BMC5 it crashes

[frigid hinge]

did you add any mods to it

[fresh niche]

no im opening it on normal minecraft launcher

[frigid hinge]

idk then lmao

[viral garden]

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[fresh niche]

as in I can't even start up bmc

[frigid hinge]

same things happening to me on bmc4 but it's because im trying to use JCraft: Eyes of Ender with it

and i'm trying to see if i can find what mod/mods are making jcraft incompatible

im thinking maybe an end mod but idk which one

[fresh niche]

how are you able to see which ones are incompatable

[viral garden]

please

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[viral garden]

watch the video

[frigid hinge]

if you download a mod and the game crashes but it loads fine without the mod youll know

[frigid hinge]

its an oddly specific problem im having but would you possibly know which mod i'd need to get rid of?

maybe yungs better strongholds

[viral garden]

none

what

oh

i see what you mean

idk

[frigid hinge]

thats fine

ill figure it out

[fresh niche]

chloe my one is like not even letting me start, so i can't follow the thing in the vieo

[frigid hinge]

ty tho ❤️

[sweet spade]

the crash assistant should still pop up though

[viral garden]

if even the crash assistant isnt popping up you need to reinstall on a diff launcher

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[frigid hinge]

found a possible fix which is cool

it may be alex's caves

[viral garden]

that is also not in the pack

[frigid hinge]

ohh

wait

wrong modpack nvm

wait how are the yung's better structures mods on bmc4 if they arent compatible

[fresh niche]

I used lunar client and this is what it said

[sweet spade]

lunar client does not work for modpacks

please follow the command chloe ran

[frigid hinge]

still says yung's better ___ mods are incompatible so ima just remove all of em and see if it works

[boreal elbow]

did it work

[frigid hinge]

i accidentally deleted yungs api and it stopped working because of that

[boreal elbow]

rip

[frigid hinge]

so i kinda have to redo the whole thing

[agile cradle]

use atlauncher or prism instead

lunar is just crap

[frigid hinge]

im using curseforge

im not good at modding okay

[agile cradle]

curse also has issues with breaking stuff

[frigid hinge]

is atlauncher as easy to use as curse

[sweet spade]

easier if anything

[agile cradle]

actually easier, you do have to manually install some mods, but it'll move them for you, and you have the ability to update the pack, add or remove mods, exporting too

[frigid hinge]

manually installing isnt a problem

[frigid hinge]

removing mods is what i like

the fact that curse doesnt have that without manually doing it is really annoying

[agile cradle]

be careful of how much you do remove as it can break the pack depending on what you remove

[frigid hinge]

well yeah

[agile cradle]

when there is a modpack update, you get the update button, when there isn't an update it'll not show the button

[frigid hinge]

i accidentally deleted yungs api about 5 minutes ago and that kinda screwed me over

[frigid hinge]

a lot more buttons which kinda overstimulates me but like 90% of them look irrelevant most of the time anyways

[agile cradle]

Yeah it's pretty to the point

[frigid hinge]

can i just download it from overwolf or is it it's own seperate thing

[agile cradle]

overwolf owns curseforge.

[frigid hinge]

no atlauncher

[agile cradle]

It's it's own thing

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[frigid hinge]

aight

[frigid hinge]

ok thanks this seems really easy

wait it runs off of curse?

or does it just download mods from curse

[agile cradle]

it downloads mods from other platforms, curse, modrinth, ftb, etc

[frigid hinge]

ooh

but it's like its own launcher

just not a downloader

[agile cradle]

yes, as said, it's a launcher

[frigid hinge]

curse has a lot of mods so i should be fine using just that right

[agile cradle]

curse's launcher itself has issues breaking downloads, you can download any mods from curse on atlauncher

[frigid hinge]

all i needed to know

ooh

i see now

the only difference between this and curseforge is this runs better and isnt as fancily set up as other modloaders like curseforge

its more similar to something like thunderstore

[agile cradle]

fancily set up? You mean the ads?

[frigid hinge]

no like the format

its not as sleek and animated as curse

it just does its job

also it looks like im able to download the mods through atlauncher without having the other modloaders downloaded so do i just get rid of curseforge

[sweet spade]

you can get rid of cf launcher fine yes

[agile cradle]

you can if you wish yes

it pull from their system/website. it'd be pointless if you had to use both launchers to use atl

[frigid hinge]

alright then

all i need to do is log in and i should be fine

this seems easy to use so it should be fine

[frigid hinge]

last thing though, you also mentioned prism but i see that you have atlauncher instead, is that just a preference or is atlauncher better in any way

[agile cradle]

yeah preference

[frigid hinge]

alright
ill try both then and see which one i like better

thank you for all of the help btw

[frigid hinge]

ok never mind not last thing
i talked to a few other people and they said atlauncher was malware..?

im thinking they may be freaking out over false positives but you seem better educated in the subject so i wanted to ask you first

[agile cradle]

tlauncher is malware

similar in name, way different launcher

[frigid hinge]

ah

[frigid hinge]

i thought they were freaking out over nothing

i just wanted to be sure yknow

thanks again

[agile cradle]

no problem. tl is cracked launcher with spyware

[mental hollow]

I'm trying to share world with friends but I keep getting "An error occurred in Luna" how do I fix this?

[agile cradle]

!wsfull

[versed mountain]

World Sharing servers are likely currently at capacity

If you or your friend are receiving an error such as "An error occurred in Luna", or "Connection refused: no further information" when trying to play through "Open to LAN" or "Share World", it's likely that Luna's servers (used for world sharing) are currently full. We don't have a way to notify you when slots on our servers free up, but you are welcome to try again later.

We understand and recognize that this may be inconvenient, so we recommend in this case to host or rent your own server. Self-hosting is free, for more information on hosting options, type !server in #bots.

Please note as well that this is a static command, it does not change/know when servers are full or not

[hard quiver]

is the y level for ancient debris the same as vanilla minecraft?

or is it different in better minecraft

[last hemlock]

is there still a tool to randomly place blocks from your hotbar?

forgot the name

[viral garden]

yes

[light relic]

@nova belfry

hey i gotta question

how do i set everything up with the mod pack and stuff i’m like hella new in like mods

my first time having minecraft on my pc

n stuff

and was hoping for some help or anything

from anyone

[agile cradle]

Why are you pinging someone random? you can just ask in the channel here for help.
As for how to start #faq

[light relic]

i didn’t see that

i just joined

[wet lagoon]

im trying to play this but after i install it crashes

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) curseforge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? no
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? no
6. What steps cause the crash? launching the game

latest.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[sweet spade]

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[lethal vault]

I keep trying to play, every time i do this comes up and i have to delete Better mc and re download it, but it deletes all my worlds, idk what to do

[sweet spade]

!betterendforge

[versed mountain]

if you are experiencing an error with the "betterendforge" mod requiring a game version lower than 1.17, then you have likely hit "update" on individual mods, and/or the "update all" button. this only happens if you updated the betterend mod in one of those ways, & you should NOT update mods, reasoning to why you shouldn't and how to fix it can be found by running the!updatemods command in #bots.

this error happens as CurseForge mistakes an old forge port of betterend as the one in the pack, and tries updating to the forge version. the forge version of the mod has not been a thing since 1.16, which is why it throws this error.

no, we have no control over it doing that, no we cannot fix that. your most likely option for it being fixed in the future to bring it up to CurseForge support.

[plucky geode]

Quarantine Result:

Reason: tlauncher
Moderator: @sweet spade

Quarantined:

justonesec94 [1109528181028954174]

[cinder nimbus]

Is there a nice overview of what bmc5 has to offer? Me and a couple of friends are trying to decide which modpack to play, and I am kind of struggling to find easily digestible details on the pack to pitch it (except the vague modrinth/curseforge page)

[nova belfry]

1. im using 1.20.1
2. im using curse forge
3. i have not changed the modpack in anyway
4. im using v53
5. i can play perfectly fine with it on but whenever i try to turn it off it crashes no matter what
6. i load in try to turn it off and it crashes

sorry i forgot to put the actual reason in the reason is after leaving the world once it automatically puts the graph on causing it to crash

[main dock]

Anyone know how to
Connect controller?

[sweet spade]

!modrinth

[versed mountain]

Currently LPS packs are not being updated on the Modrinth site, and as such are outdated. This is while the devs figure out a way to automate uploads of the pack properly.

Until the packs can be properly updated, we recommend using ATL (use !alternates in #bots for further info on the installation process ) or Prism launcher. You can download the CurseForge version of our packs on these launchers while still being able to make instances from Modrinth versions of other packs not owned by us.

Please note this does not apply to individual mod projects of developers at LPS.

[sweet spade]

!compare

[versed mountain]

https://www.modpackindex.com/modpacks

[paper scroll]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) curseforge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? no
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? after reinstaling windows 11 i started having crash
6. What steps cause the crash? when i go out

latest.log | win_event1762276849198.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[paper scroll]

and after i open the world for the network i dont have an address for a friend to join me

[spring sand]

is there like an official bmc4 or bmc5 server that i can join?

[sweet spade]

theres no official one no but theres community ones #community-servers-info #1109323795556216862

[strong field]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (CurseForge)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? yep
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? I can log into the game, but when creating a single world it crashes
6. What steps cause the crash? when creating a single world it crashes

latest.log head / tail (~10MB & ~98k lines) | crash-2025-11-04_20.45.04-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

57 added, 5 removed, 0 updated.

[sweet spade]

!modified

[versed mountain]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[ivory crescent]

ignore

[crude lagoon]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? CurseForge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? no
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? i can join my server but when i do something simple lke opening a door or chest it crashes
6. What steps cause the crash? opening a door or chest it crashes

latest.log head / tail (~444MB & over 4215k lines) | crash-2025-11-04_18.55.32-client.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Added mods:
tameablebeasts-7.1.jar

[heavy shadow]

Hey i need help @sweet spade

Thats a Support channel

[sweet spade]

and you still did not read the rules as asked to cause you are still pinging staff

[heavy shadow]

😭

[icy estuary]

remove the tameablebeasts mod and try

[heavy shadow]

Thx

[crude lagoon]

thank you

[icy estuary]

please state what you need help with, and stop pinging staff

[heavy shadow]

Iam 70 years old

Idk

[icy estuary]

ok so u dont need help?

[heavy shadow]

I need

[icy estuary]

with what

[heavy shadow]

Idk what to ping

[icy estuary]

you dont ping

[heavy shadow]

We play in eu on a Bmc 4!

[icy estuary]

yes and then

what do you need help with?

[heavy shadow]

Like 3 days all good good fps and all we Share a world on singleplayer but After 3 days my friend lag and his chunks load fps drops he get kicked out

But my game is normal

My other friend was on here and he got same Problem

With good pc

[icy estuary]

try selfhosting

!server

[versed mountain]

Free Method

To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.

If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.

Paid Method

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:

Transferring Your World

If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".

Fixing Lag

To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.

[heavy shadow]

So share world is not good

For multiplayee

?

[icy estuary]

could also be a internet thing, give selfhosting a go

[heavy shadow]

I need to buy server to it gets better

?

[icy estuary]

no

read from the top “free method”

[heavy shadow]

So share world is bad

Bcs we played a lot

Thee

There

[icy estuary]

#better-mc-forge message

you can bring your world over

[heavy shadow]

So i can get a bmc4 server fpr free

[stone mountain]

You can install the server on your own PC, and that's totally free

[heavy shadow]

So nobody use Share world

?

[paper scroll]

Why i can't share world it write an error occured in luna

[heavy shadow]

Restart

[paper scroll]

What restart

[heavy shadow]

Luna

The game

Bmc

[paper scroll]

I rebooted but nothing changed

[paper scroll]

I use curseforge

[heavy shadow]

Try again

[paper scroll]

Okay, I'll check tomorrow

[dim sundial]

hiii, sooo... something occured

[finite hound]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]

2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
   ATLauncher

3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
   Nope!

4. v53

5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
   I have no clue.

6. What steps cause the crash?
   I was flying around the aether with an elytra and it closed and now it refuses to open.

latest.log | hs_err_pid40420.log | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | i9-13900k might be the reason for the crash

# Problematic frame:
# V  [jvm.dll+0x30b49d]

Found 1 log analysis results:
Jvm in: hs_err_pid40420.log

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

(UPDATE: UNRESOLVED BUT GAME BOUNCES BETWEEN OPENING AND BEING PLAYABLE AND NOT EVEN OPENING.)

[finite hound]

you need to hit "OK" and then the green button that says "upload all files and copy a message" then send it here
they cant do much with the screenshot of crash assistant

[dim sundial]

ty

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE] tried changing but it went back to 1.21.10 ig
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) curseforge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? nope
4. v53 yep
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? always
6. What steps cause the crash? when i hit play

latest.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Found 1 log analysis results:
CorruptedModJar in: launcher_log.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[sweet spade]

!openjdk

[versed mountain]

If the issue you're experiencing is clientside, and is not related to a server, then follow the "Java" section in our performance guide for how to switch to a newer, more stable version of Java.

If the issue you're experiencing is serverside, then follow the Java section of our server installation guide.

[sweet spade]

it looks like cf fucked up your install

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[dim sundial]

I’ve tried 3 links
Two sent by my friend
One from curseforge

[sweet spade]

yes please follow the command i ran about using an alternate launcher

[glass drum]

how do you improve their stats

[torpid valve]

how do you even see that? lol

[reef kestrel]

can anyone help me my friend keeps getting disconnected and cant join anymore

[torpid valve]

also wanting to ask with all the new gear types in the game does anyone know whats the best armor?

[glass drum]

you just click your dragon

[torpid valve]

that just makes me punch him lol shift click just makes it sit and stand

shift right click sorry

[brazen tundra]

What's the mod that causes these particles?

[sweet spade]

subtle effects i believe u can update it client side to fix that

[glass drum]

here's the version

and idk how to add mods to it

[glass drum]

wouldn't want to mess up the modpack

[stone mountain]

Yes, that's intended. Follow the on-screen instruction

It will grab those few mods automatically from your Downloads

[sweet spade]

honestly had no idea dragon mounts remastered had stats like that lmao that is my bad

[glass drum]

ah no worries

can't find any info on their wiki

[brazen tundra]

tysm, just disabled waterfalls. That was making my PC suffer a lot in Acropolis.

[torpid valve]

did you like add the dragon to your team some how or something? i cant seem to acces mine like that for the life of me i dont get it lmao

[sweet spade]

r you on bmc4 or 5

[torpid valve]

uh im not sure honestly how would i check that?

oh wait its 4 i found it

im guessing 5 is the better one then? is there a way to go to 5 and bring my world with me?

[sweet spade]

its subjective on which is better but no you cant move your world

but yeah that persons on bmc5

dif dragons mod

[torpid valve]

ahhh okay, is there a way for me to see like whats different between the 2 so i can decide if i wanna start fresh there or keep playing on this one?

[sweet spade]

!compare

[versed mountain]

https://www.modpackindex.com/modpacks

[boreal lily]

i think i wasted my time with dragon eggs. I was following the original guide rather than the one in the game. I build a tower above y 200 to hatch the ice one but apparently it can hatch anywhere

after that i felt like my baby was telling her first words "dumbass" or i might misheard.

[torpid valve]

im still like pretty new so im not even sure what all the mods are on 4 and what they do yet, so the comparing lists like that isnt terribly helpful to me at the moment, does it add a decent bit more content?

progression wise i just got full netherite gear and its like semi enchanted, what would you recommend you think its worth starting over for?

[sweet spade]

4 has slightly more content than 5

i havent really played 5 other than some testing and honestly bmc4 has a lot more in its questbook alone and also has betterend/nether people enjoy a lot

[torpid valve]

okay awesome ill just still with 4 then, thank you i appreciate the advice

[boreal lily]

4 uses this https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/dragon-mounts-legacy
5 uses this https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/dmr

dmr sounds actually more interesting than legacy

[sweet spade]

quite a bit so and legacy is abandoned so

[lunar crow]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

0 added, 0 removed, 12 updated.

[lunar crow]

sorry if i didn't post this in the right place, first time here

[sweet spade]

!updatemods

[versed mountain]

Do NOT Update Mods Manually!

Modpacks use specific versions of certain mods to prevent various issues, such as crashes or major game-breaking bugs. Mods will be updated by the modpack developer when they see fit. Please do not update the mods in a modpack manually, unless specifically told to do so. This includes hitting the "update all" feature on CurseForge launcher it likes to bother users with.

To be clear; this is separate from updating the modpack (such as Better MC / Medieval MC) itself. You should always stay up to date with the latest version of the modpack. To update the pack correctly, you can follow the command!updatemodpack

The easiest way to downgrade mod versions to their original versions in the pack, is to reinstall the pack itself. Before you uninstall, back up both any singleplayer world files you have, and your map folder. LPS packs usually use JourneyMap or Xareos, the map folder will be named accordingly.

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.

Navigate to the "minecraft" folder, and within that will be "saves" and "journeymap"/"xareos" depending on which the pack has. Copy/Move these folders to a safe location, and you can move them right back to the fresh copy of the pack when reinstalled.

[boreal lily]

I guess they're planning to update further bmc5 and stop bmc4 at some point? if not i wish they'd switch legacy with dmr. Legacy is pretty bare bones in terms of features

[sweet spade]

dmr is only on 1.21

[boreal lily]

oh, gotcha

[sweet spade]

theres not really any like point atm where bmc4 will fully stop as its still pretty popular, most stuff updated on both 4 & 5 is qol/performance stuff as the dev feels all bases are covered ohrwise

[arctic mortar]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. ATLauncher
3. Added 18 mods
4. v53
5. Always Crashes
6. Updated the pack with the mods after having not played in a long while, game immediately crashes after loading, tried reinstalling all mods and removing some however no matter what it always crashes (Wanted to see if it may just be a bad mod first before uninstalling the whole thing)

latest.log | crash-2025-11-04_15.14.46-client.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

18 added, 0 removed, 0 updated.

[compact comet]

Hi, a friend of me asked me to host a server for him, but i cant sucessfully deploy the modpack in Forge Server, any advice is really appreacciated

[sweet spade]

its crashing due to the aftershock mod you added

[sweet spade]

!server

[versed mountain]

Free Method

To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.

If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.

Paid Method

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:

Transferring Your World

If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".

Fixing Lag

To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.

[compact comet]

where do i get the download_graal.ps1 file?

[arctic mortar]

Uninstalled it, and its library, didnt work

latest.log | crash-2025-11-04_15.27.51-client.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

16 added, 0 removed, 0 updated.

[sweet spade]

its within the server pack files

[sweet spade]

idk then bc its just falsely blaming a dif mod

[lucid sable]

how can i play with my friends

[sweet spade]

!modified

[versed mountain]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[sweet spade]

!ws

[versed mountain]

Luna Pixel's World Sharing

Our modpacks don't support any mods that add singleplayer hosting / world sharing because we already provide free world sharing. The 'Essential' mod is therefore incompatible.

To share your world using our own world hosting, click the 'Open to Lan' or 'Share World' button in the game menu when in a singleplayer world, and share the world.

It will give you an address, like magma-cube.mc.lunapixel.gg, which your friends can use to connect directly to your world as if it were a server!

We still highly suggest not to play through LAN as LAN is untested and unreliable. Using it will cause longterm damage to your world.

There is no reason to use LAN, as we support both paid and free methods of hosting a server the normal way.

[sweet spade]

thanks zepplein for not replying

oh there we go

[lucid sable]

ty bro

[compact comet]

uhhhh what

And where is the server pack files?

my friend just gave me a link for the sourceforge modpack

im quite outdated, sorry

[lucid sable]

hazelnuss

[sweet spade]

click on the latest ver under the modpack on the cf site and its under additional files

[compact comet]

oh, there it is, i suck using courseforge haha

thanks for the help

[glass drum]

try shift right click

whatever method you would use to access the dragon's inventory

[stone mountain]

Now it's crashing because refraction is missing something

So it's still something you added

[arctic mortar]

I uninstalled all them and will just go one by one since its not a ton but appreciate it nonetheless

good to know that was one of the probs

[stone mountain]

Yeah, that's probably the best approach to testing it

[arctic mortar]

aye yea

[flint crown]

Minecraft version: 1.20.1

Launcher: CurseForge

Modpack changes: Another backpack mod never had any issues with it

Modpack version: Better Minecraft [Fabric] 1.20.1 (v11)

Crash behavior: The game always crashes during startup, before reaching the main menu.

[sweet spade]

v11 is the most outdated version i've ever seen

!updatemodpack

[versed mountain]

To properly update the modpack you're playing, it depends on the launcher you are using. This video can explains it on CurseForge launcher, and the same method can be used on other launchers as well, but it's not necessary to use this method on others.

• CurseForge - See above video

• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance, and click "Edit" on the right. the 3rd tab down will say "CurseForge", click on it, and there will be a dropdown menu, if not already selected, the latest version of the pack will be at the top of it. click "Update Pack". Sometimes there will be new mods to manually download due to liscensing issues, click "Open Missing" and it will automatically download and checked, and copied to the instance folder. It's safe to delete these mods in your downloads folder once done. Once all are detected, the "Open Missing" will be grayed out. You can click 'Continue" at this point, and it will finish the update process and tell you when its successful.

• ATLauncher - Under the "Instances" tab, find the pack you would like to update. there will be an "Update" button. There will be a dropdown menu, and if not already selected, the latest version of the pack will be at the top of it to select. Click "Update" once selected. Sometimes there will be new mods to manually download due to licensing issues, click "Open Missing" and it will automatically download and checked, and copied to the instance folder. It's safe to delete these mods in your downloads folder once done. Once all are detected, You can click "OK ", and it will finish the update process.

[sweet spade]

you are also in the forge channel for further support please ask in #better-mc-fabric

[flint crown]

mb

[fresh niche]

I'm using ATL launcher, and it is crashing before I open it up

[sweet spade]

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[fresh niche]

A crash assistant is not popping up

Its crashing as before minecraft even opens

[next delta]

what are these particle? i also cant break abything

[sweet spade]

twilight forest is progression locked, you need to get the boss achievements before this one for it to let you through

[viral garden]

!alternates follow the guide

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[viral garden]

what exactly are you curious about

send logs please

[viral garden]

send logs please

[viral garden]

!modified

[versed mountain]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[viral garden]

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[dim sundial]

I got it, thank you!

Thank yall

[old stump]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) CurseForge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? No
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? Always crashes and was working yesterday
6. What steps cause the crash? Clicking play

latest.log | crash-2025-11-04_21.01.40-fml.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Found 1 log analysis results:
MissingUnsupportedDependencies in: latest.log

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Added mods:
betterendforge-1.16.5-1.6.3.jar

Updated mods:
entity_model_features (2.4.1 > 3.0.1)
entity_texture_features (6.2.9 > 7.0.2)
euphoria_patcher (1.7.3-r5.6.1-forge > 1.7.4-r5.6.1-forge)
gnetum (2.2.2 > 2.3.0)
ixeris (3.6.1+1.20.1-forge > 3.6.2+1.20.1-forge)
jei (15.20.0.116 > 15.20.0.118)
xaeroplus (2.28.8 > 2.29.0)

[viral garden]

!betterendforge

[versed mountain]

if you are experiencing an error with the "betterendforge" mod requiring a game version lower than 1.17, then you have likely hit "update" on individual mods, and/or the "update all" button. this only happens if you updated the betterend mod in one of those ways, & you should NOT update mods, reasoning to why you shouldn't and how to fix it can be found by running the!updatemods command in #bots.

this error happens as CurseForge mistakes an old forge port of betterend as the one in the pack, and tries updating to the forge version. the forge version of the mod has not been a thing since 1.16, which is why it throws this error.

no, we have no control over it doing that, no we cannot fix that. your most likely option for it being fixed in the future to bring it up to CurseForge support.

[old stump]

how do i unupdate the mods

[viral garden]

do a fresh install

[old stump]

Will my world stay?

[viral garden]

!alternates follow the guide at the bottom

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[old stump]

Thank you kindly

[sterile surge]

I have enabled cheats and its already open to LAN but when I go into share world and try to allow commands it keeps going back to off when I turn it on

[viral garden]

you need to click share world

[sterile surge]

I shared world but it still keeps going back to off

[frigid hinge]

I download atlauncher

Get bmc4

Add jcraft

(And required mods with it)

And then my pc crashes

[agile cradle]

try without the jcraft and required mods for it

[frigid hinge]

I know it works without it

Now i just have to figure out which mod is interfering

[agile cradle]

then it's cause of jcraft or one of its required mods

[frigid hinge]

Yeah

How i fix that without just removing all of the bmc mods and trying them 1 by 1 with jcraft to see which ones cause issues is gonna be a problem though

[agile cradle]

tbh, most likely it's just not compatible. you can't use it with bmc

[frigid hinge]

That could be it

Theres always other modpacks that may work with it

[agile cradle]

yeah, just play bmc without it

[frigid hinge]

I planned on it

[frigid hinge]

While you're here tho do you know any mods that ARE compatible?

[agile cradle]

nope. I don't play with jcraft

[frigid hinge]

No like mods that are compatible with bmc

[agile cradle]

!compat most mods are compatible, but we do have this list of ones we do know aren't compatible with lps packs

[versed mountain]

Following mods are incompatible with all LPS modpacks: Epic Fight, Valkerian Skies, Eureka Ships, Essential (use !ea), optifine (use !optifine), clockwork, e4mc (use !ws) and on (for the moment, wait on devs to do updates to their packs, do not update it yourself)

[frigid hinge]

Good to know

Thanks

[viral garden]

you have to click share world on the screen that has the allow cheats button

[viral garden]

yes

click allow commands

then share world

[lethal wraith]

im on bmc5 and my custom shader packs arent being detected?

is this a euphoria patch issue

[sterile surge]

Thanks Chloe

[viral garden]

what shader pack are you adding

[lethal wraith]

complementary

i know the standard one is a modified versiobn

but i wanna get distant horizons working

[viral garden]

DH works perfectly fine with the shader presets that the pack comes with

[lethal wraith]

and dh doesnt work with the packs it comes with

[viral garden]

it does

[lethal wraith]

really?

[viral garden]

yes

it is the exact same

[lethal wraith]

ok maybe ive done something wrong

[viral garden]

as what you'd be downloading

i dont know if DH itself works in the pack, you may need to try an older version of DH

[lethal wraith]

yeah i did downgrade dh versions until i found the one compatible with this version of iris

but the shaders wont apply when i have dh on

and if i drag like a stock version of complementary in

it doesn't show up in shader options

[viral garden]

its because the presets are the same as complementary & its setup to hide the base version that the pack already has

[lethal wraith]

ohhh ok

[viral garden]

the presets are just complementary reimagined + euphoria patches + a bunch of small config changes within the shaderpack

but everything there works the same as normal comp as far as DH compat

[frigid hinge]

figured out why jcraft doesnt work

the mod messes with collision mechanics and gravity and stuff, so any mods that are also altering collision api and such will interfere, causing the game to crash

now i need to find which mods those may be

[waxen pewter]

Does anyone know if the goblin traders in bmc5(neoforge) offer an upgraded sword? And if yes which one vein goblin or the overworld one?

[frigid hinge]

i found out the ACTUAL issue

forge messes with the mod for some reason

[frigid hinge]

never mind

it may be azurelib

i was able to load in when i deleted azurelib

i swear if azurelib is actually not needed and its been the real issue this whole time i will crash

it was azurelib

[viral garden]

it is needed for several mods

azurelib is a fork of geckolib

mods that require azurelib will launch without it

since the pack also has geckolib

but some animations may break & you may experience crashes

[frigid hinge]

so azurelib is just convenience

and crash prevention

[viral garden]

it has a lot of fixes to geckolib

[frigid hinge]

it probably wont work on a modpack as big as bmc anyways

between what you just said being amplified by the fact that bmc has more mods than i was using

but

that does mean jcraft is compatible with bmc

how i get it to work is the real question

[frigid hinge]

ok whats happening is

when i have azurelib installed

the game crashes at the point of forge startup where it says "launching minecraft"

and when i dont have it ill load in just fine

until the point of the menu where it shows the screen saying im missing azurelib

[viral garden]

yeah its bc its required for some mods

[frigid hinge]

because jcraft has azurelib as a dependency

[frigid hinge]

yeah

but it only says for jcraft

[viral garden]

oh thats what you mean lol

if you only get that far with azurelib removed its because none of jcraft's code is running without azurelib present

jcraft might just not work at all

a lot of ppl have had issues w it

azurelib would not be the problem here though

[frigid hinge]

for some reason it works without azurelib on better adventures+ though

i can tell that the mod is incredibly buggy

and not reliable tho

idk if the project got dropped or if its still being developed but their next update DEFINITELY needs to be just a giant bug fix update and optimization

ill js use bmc without it and use better adventures+ with it

because it works on that modpack somehow

[nova belfry]

sorry for late response was asleep ill get them now!

[atomic haven]

what is on left side? when I come closer is disappear

[nova belfry]

there you go sorry for being a bit slow had to figure out how to get it

[wispy trail]

Uploaded crash-2025-11-05_08.27.09-client.txt from @nova belfry to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/FFRowUX

[viral garden]

its a stoneling

[viral garden]

does it persist with the ixeris mod removed

[atomic haven]

thank you

[paper scroll]

whay i cant share world

[viral garden]

please be more specific

[paper scroll]

after press button share world in chat writes an error occurred in luna

[viral garden]

!server selfhost instead

[versed mountain]

Free Method

To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.

If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.

Paid Method

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:

Transferring Your World

If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".

Fixing Lag

To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.

[candid nova]

when trying to self host Better MC, getting the error: Could not find or load main class @user_jvm_args.txt using Windows 10

[stone mountain]

Wrong Java

!openjdk

[versed mountain]

If the issue you're experiencing is clientside, and is not related to a server, then follow the "Java" section in our performance guide for how to switch to a newer, more stable version of Java.

If the issue you're experiencing is serverside, then follow the Java section of our server installation guide.

[static flower]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | win_event1762336984634.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher | i9-14900kf might be the reason for the crash

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

2. CurseForge
3. nothing
4. started creating a new world
5. no
6. look 4

[stone mountain]

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[stone mountain]

Try this

[candid nova]

thank you

[stark stratus]

Better MC 5 - v42 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v42
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | debug.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

2. Curseforge
   3.Nope
   4.V42
   5.No

[paper scroll]

its not working

[viral garden]

please be more specific

"its not working" means nothing

[viral garden]

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[stark stratus]

AT launcher doesnt work, when it tried installing the mods, some of them didnt download for some reason, I have the logs. Is there other methods?

[nova belfry]

sorry for the later response had to go out ill check in a moment

[nova belfry]

just turnt it off and yes it still crashes

[glad cargo]

Better MC 5 - v42 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.21.1 [NEOFORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v42
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | debug.log | win_event1762351471083.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Added mods:
artifacts-neoforge-13.1.0.jar
BOMD-NeoForge-1.21-1.3.2.jar
CerbonsAPI-NeoForge-1.21-1.3.0.jar
EnchantingInfuser-v21.1.2-1.21.1-NeoForge.jar
OctoLib-NEOFORGE-0.6.0.4+1.21.jar
rarcompat-1.21-0.9.7.jar
relics-1.21.1-0.11.2.jar
sophisticatedbackpacks-1.21.1-3.25.14.1410.jar
sophisticatedcore-1.21.1-1.3.89.1239.jar
whatdurability-1.21.1-1.3.jar

Removed mods:
luna_minecraft-neoforge-5.3.1.jar

2: atlauncher
3: Nope
5: the problem isnt crashing, the lunapixel text is stuck
6: altf4

[inland mauve]

BMC5 anyone know of a possible fix for the chest?

[simple moth]

anyone else problems with the shader on the new version?

[glad cargo]

anyone having lunapixel stuck on their screen

[stone mountain]

!modified

[versed mountain]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[stone mountain]

This seem to be caused by mods you added / removed

[final mica]

yes

been there like 8 times now

[glad cargo]

im testing them rn thank you

[glad cargo]

did u add mods

to the pack

[slim grotto]

Better MC 4 - v48 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v48
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-11-05_15.06.25-fml.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

Found 1 log analysis results:
MissingUnsupportedDependencies in: latest.log

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

20 added, 0 removed, 1 updated.

can anyone help me but tbh im someone who barely plays minecraft

[final mica]

i literally did not do anything

it was working till yesterday

[glad cargo]

i see

[final mica]

then today i woke up, decided to play

but smh it didnt work

[stone mountain]

!modified

[versed mountain]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[stone mountain]

Seems like mods you added are missing dependencies

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[slim grotto]

i didnt add anything just downloaded it from curseforge

[stone mountain]

I find the ATLauncher or PrismLauncher to be better at adding mods (with correct dependencies)

[stone mountain]

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:
20 added, 0 removed, 1 updated.

Try this anyway: #better-mc-forge message

[glad cargo]

might have the same and its not the mods either

and when u close the game does it give a crash report?

IT WORKS

hollon

[slim grotto]

okay thank you i try but i realy just took it like it is i dont even know how to add anything xd

[final mica]

YES IT DOES MY MAN IT DOES GIVE ONE REPORT

[final mica]

what

lemme check

[glad cargo]

it was mods for me

[final mica]

what did you do

u added smth?

[glad cargo]

i added like 4 mods yesterday night and it was stuck on lunapixel since then

i disabled those 4 rn

and it works

[final mica]

i havent even done anything-

[stone mountain]

!logs

[versed mountain]

To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• MultiMC -> Select your instance and click „Instance Folder” on the right.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.
• For servers -> Open the folder containing your server files.

To find the „latest.log” file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the „hs_err_pid.log” file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the „crash-reports” folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.

Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.

[glad cargo]

hmm

[stone mountain]

Sorry, responding to wrong person 😄

It was meant for Alpha

[west scaffold]

i wanted to add apetheosis mod and ive done it, the only problem is easy magic which converts the standard enchanting table to its own. Is there a way to disable this easy magic mod? I've tried to disable it but it just gives me a warning that modrinth needs some mods that are installed externally etc. cant get past this issue

[final mica]

my mods folder is literally empty

now smth i could do?

[stone mountain]

#better-mc-forge message

[stone mountain]

!modrinth

[versed mountain]

Currently LPS packs are not being updated on the Modrinth site, and as such are outdated. This is while the devs figure out a way to automate uploads of the pack properly.

Until the packs can be properly updated, we recommend using ATL (use !alternates in #bots for further info on the installation process ) or Prism launcher. You can download the CurseForge version of our packs on these launchers while still being able to make instances from Modrinth versions of other packs not owned by us.

Please note this does not apply to individual mod projects of developers at LPS.

[west scaffold]

Is there a way to get past the BETTERMC wall of needing to install mods externally ? It's the same screen when you first install bmc.

I think there is a mod that has a dependency that if these mods are installed that this screen wont pop up but if not it will act as if I installed bmc for the first time

[stone mountain]

Please follow what the bot said

[fringe geyser]

Better MC 4 - v52 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. CurseForge
3. NO
4. v52
5. NO
6. can't Initial the game

latest.log | crash-2025-11-05_22.30.11-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Mod list wasn't modified.

[west scaffold]

1. 1.21.1 neoforge BMC5, 2. Modrinth. 3. No. 5. First one. 6. There is no crash.

Mod list was modified. Added a mod called Apotheosis. Trying to disable easy magic.

[fringe geyser]

when will the bot reply me?

[stone mountain]

Bot only replies to set commands

[stone mountain]

!alternates - seems like your installation is broken (configs)

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[sweet spade]

#better-mc-forge message

[boreal brook]

why is essential not supported

[nova geode]

Hey, i have a sever on zap hosting, and downloaded your serverpack.

i just need to upload these folders from the serverpack to my serverdirectory?

[stone mountain]

Yes

[boreal brook]

[stone mountain]

!ea

[versed mountain]

The Essential mod is completely incompatible with all of our modpacks, and there's no reason to use it. All of our modpacks already come with built-in, free world hosting, by clicking the "Share World' button in the Open to LAN menu. You can learn more by typing !ws in the ⁠#bots channel. You can also run type !server in the same channel to learn how to properly host a server for better performance and more flexibility. In modpacks that aren't owned by us, you can use mods such as e4mc or WorldHost to host a server completely for free without Essential's many issues and crashes and the microtransactions that they constantly bother users with. To learn more about alternatives to the Essential mod, check out this website.

[stone mountain]

Because it's not needed

[boreal brook]

idrc about the hosting

i care about the cosmetics

i need my silly emotes and clothes

[nova geode]

okay, copied it in this folder, hope it ill work, tryed 3 Modpacks today...

[fringe geyser]

i update the version and it's solved lol

thank you anyway

[stone mountain]

I need logs, not screenshots of logs

!logs

[versed mountain]

To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• MultiMC -> Select your instance and click „Instance Folder” on the right.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.
• For servers -> Open the folder containing your server files.

To find the „latest.log” file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the „hs_err_pid.log” file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the „crash-reports” folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.

Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.

[boreal brook]

questions

why is create not in the modpack

[stone mountain]

Doesn't fit the vanilla+ theme

LPS does have some Create modpacks

#steampunk and #all-of-create have Create for sure

[wispy trail]

Uploaded latest.log from @nova geode to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/SC9IGe9

[stone mountain]

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

Your host run out of memory

[boreal brook]

[south pawn]

hi

is it possible to add alex's mobs to bmc5?

[stone mountain]

Please don't do random pings

And my answer is

!tryit

[versed mountain]

https://tryitands.ee/

[south pawn]

this is a support channel and ur staff

hows that random

[stone mountain]

I am staff, but I don't know answer to every question

So pinging me in this example is useless

Also #rules

[south pawn]

alr lmk when sm1 who isnt a gimp has a reply to my question thanks

[nova geode]

hope you´ll get no help xD

[south pawn]

Please don't do random pings

didnt u read the #rules

[idle token]

do you need to be close to a geode in a lush cave to have amethyst crab to spawn? I'm on the latest version of bmc4

[quiet atlas]

Hi, do i really need GraalVM to host a server in a cloud VM provider?x

Fixed, ty <3

[languid jetty]

hello, i have a problem with instal mod pack, it isnt working like its not oppening in %appdata% and nothing changes in mc

[light jungle]

hello, is it posible to add 2 mods to the modpack?? I ve done it and my game goes crashing

[woeful minnow]

Hi I am having an issue starting up the Better MC 5 modpack does anyone know how to fix

[sweet spade]

!ca it would heavily depend what you added

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[frosty sorrel]

How do I enable the "Uncrafting Table" from the twilight forest?

Hi everyone

[light jungle]

fossils and archaelogy revival and more hit boxes

[sweet spade]

idk anything abt the compatability of them so youd likely just have to remove each one at a time to see if ones the issue

[light jungle]

okey thank you ❤️

[boreal turret]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-11-05_19.35.15-client.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[tough mirage]

Is there a guide or something to help me figure out the best graphics settings for minimum, ultra low, etc?

[rare abyss]

Better MC 4 - v41 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v41
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

44 added, 4 removed, 92 updated.

help pls ive been tryna fix this for the last 3 days....

i'm just tryna play mc with my wife and she'll only play on BMC4 (she loyal to yall) and she has all the base mods plus some that we added and havent had issues with. i havent had issues with it before until now when im tryng to launch it on my laptop that can run it and has all the same exact things my other computer has

[sweet spade]

couple things a. you are 12 versions outdated b. you updated mods which you shouldnt do

!updatemodpack

[versed mountain]

To properly update the modpack you're playing, it depends on the launcher you are using. This video can explains it on CurseForge launcher, and the same method can be used on other launchers as well, but it's not necessary to use this method on others.

• CurseForge - See above video

• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance, and click "Edit" on the right. the 3rd tab down will say "CurseForge", click on it, and there will be a dropdown menu, if not already selected, the latest version of the pack will be at the top of it. click "Update Pack". Sometimes there will be new mods to manually download due to liscensing issues, click "Open Missing" and it will automatically download and checked, and copied to the instance folder. It's safe to delete these mods in your downloads folder once done. Once all are detected, the "Open Missing" will be grayed out. You can click 'Continue" at this point, and it will finish the update process and tell you when its successful.

• ATLauncher - Under the "Instances" tab, find the pack you would like to update. there will be an "Update" button. There will be a dropdown menu, and if not already selected, the latest version of the pack will be at the top of it to select. Click "Update" once selected. Sometimes there will be new mods to manually download due to licensing issues, click "Open Missing" and it will automatically download and checked, and copied to the instance folder. It's safe to delete these mods in your downloads folder once done. Once all are detected, You can click "OK ", and it will finish the update process.

[sweet spade]

start by first updating the pack and dont update mods

[rancid dove]

On bmc4 1.20.1, it feels like Vanilla mobs like cows, pigs, and sheep are so scarce compared to bmc5 neoforge. Why arent both like bmc5?

[sweet spade]

if you're still having issues test your changes in small groups

[rare abyss]

but my wife is running the same version as im trying to run and shes having no issue

she updated the mods and everything too, and shes running BMC no problem

[sweet spade]

we dont support outdated versions

you are not supposed to update mods either

they can break the pack

[rare abyss]

okay, my question then is why is mine crashing and hers isnt

[sweet spade]

i have no idea why

and we cannot give you support on outdated versions

sometimes curseforge launcher just crashes games esp considering theres no crash report but i have no way to identify if thats why when you're running on a modified pack thats 12 versions out of date

[rare abyss]

so if i get v53 it shouldnt crash

[stone mountain]

Start with updating the base pack to v53, and then test adding your mods in small batches

[sweet spade]

i didn't say that

[stone mountain]

If you do 150 mods changes - it's no longer BMC, it's your own custom pack

[sweet spade]

^

[rare abyss]

gotcha

[static coral]

guys

is there dragon armor?

[sweet spade]

i think in bmc5 yes

[static coral]

cause in my better miencarft there isint

[sweet spade]

well what bmc are you playing

[static coral]

i found

it was 4

i have tlauncher

[sweet spade]

lmao

[plucky geode]

Quarantine Result:

Reason: tlauncher
Moderator: @sweet spade

Quarantined:

oskar_xse [1404475119497253005]

[neat dew]

Hello

I have a problem

my game is crashing when i start it?

[boreal turret]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:
1.20.1 [FORGE]
What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
v53
Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
What steps cause the crash?
latest.log | crash-2025-11-05_19.35.15-client.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt
Mod list changes on top of the modpack:
Mod list was not modified.

[sweet spade]

you did not paste the info correctly this has no links to the logs

[sweet spade]

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[boreal turret]

sorry one moment

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-11-05_20.54.56-client.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[sacred dagger]

Hello guys! I installed Better MC v53 and wanted to continue playing, but suddenly the Shaders are not working, no matter what i do, i Disable and Enable them again, only one of my Custom Shader is working and thats all. Can i get a little help how do i fix it?

[boreal turret]

there it is

[stone mountain]

Does it crash if you create a new world?

[sullen tinsel]

jj

Better MC 4 - v48 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v48
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-11-05_15.07.23-fml.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

5 added, 13 removed, 4 updated.

sorry, i dont know if this is right place to post that, each time i open my minecraft it crashes T-T

[boreal turret]

it crash before I can enter in the principal menu

[stone mountain]

Try updating foolproof

[stone mountain]

Can you try to reinstall the pack? Seems like some configs got corrupted.

Have you had some unexpected reboot or power loss?

[boreal turret]

yes

[stone mountain]

Then that's probably that. Backup your saves, and reinstall

Or ideally just make a new instance, and then copy the saves over

[boreal turret]

how can I backup them?

[stone mountain]

Navigate to the instance folder (should be a button there to do it), and then just copy "saves" to your desktop

[boreal turret]

okey thanks 🙂

[sweet spade]

update to v53

[sullen tinsel]

it's working after updating foolproof!

[stone mountain]

Updating to latest, as hazel suggests, might help fixing some other random bugs

[sullen tinsel]

thanks!

[cloud temple]

where can i put my crash

[viral garden]

please be more specific on what you mean

[cloud temple]

wheres the uplod all button, imma put the crash i got

[viral garden]

!modified

[versed mountain]

You are using a modified version of the modpack!

Adding, removing, or updating large amounts of mods without testing any of your changes is **not **a good idea, and it is very unlikely that anyone will want to debug your issue for you. Please test the changes you make in small groups, as opposed to doing all of the changes at once.

If you want further support for your issue, someone may respond to you in the channel for the modpack you based your changes off, but please only post once. You may also have better luck in #1061339968691257466.

[viral garden]

what modpack and modpack version are you on

[viral garden]

be more specific

[digital herald]

where can i see the all uplad button

for my crash

pls

[stone mountain]

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[stone mountain]

Check the vid

[digital herald]

yo thx

[inland mauve]

better minecraft 5 latest version on curseforge. minecraft version 1.21.1

[cloud temple]

]

[cloud temple]

1. What Minecraft version are you using? (1.19.2, 1.20.1, ...)1.20.1
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) CURSEFORFE
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way? (e.g. changing mod versions, adding/removing mods)no
4. What version of the modpack are you using? (v11, v9, etc)v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?i got it every time
6. What steps cause the crash?enter my world

[wispy trail]

Uploaded hs_err_pid30738.log from @cloud temple to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/RbzcHbF

:warning: This is a hs_err_pid file.
These files may contain personal information such as your session token.
Mclogs automatically censors these files, so you should delete your original attachment now.

[stone mountain]

!macjdk

[versed mountain]

For Mac devices using Apple Silicon/arm (M1/M2/etc.) CPUs

There is an issue with Java 17.0.8 and newer where you may experience "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment", which can cause the Java runtime to crash under a variety of circumstances. To resolve this:
Mac:

1. Go here and hover over the Download buttons until you see one with the option to install a .dmg file. If you have an M-series Mac, then make sure to install the ARM64 version of this file.
2. Run the !alternates command in #bots and follow the directions. If you already have ATL installed, move on to step 3.
3. Click "Settings" on the right
4. Click "Java/Minecraft" at the top
5. Set "Use Java Provided by Minecraft" to false by unchecking the checkbox
6. Manually specify the following Java path in the text box to the left to the "Reset" button: /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-21.jdk/Contents/Home

[stone mountain]

Do this

[wanton heart]

Actually. EP has a FAR superior DH compat than regular Comp does

[viral garden]

bahahaha

[wanton heart]

Proper DH chunk fading, AO on DH chunks and so on :)

[rare abyss]

i get BMC4 with the addedmods to work thank yall for the help

[snow flicker]

1. What Minecraft version are you using? (1.19.2, 1.20.1, ...)1.20.1
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) CURSEFORFE
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way? (e.g. changing mod versions, adding/removing mods)no
4. What version of the modpack are you using? (v11, v9, etc)v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?i every time
6. What steps cause the crash? Starting minecraft

[digital herald]

Hey, so the last step, the six one, it says manually, i jus the code or put something special

or i delete everything in the box, it has more comands

[south pawn]

anyone know how to make a bmc4 server on forge, cuz i get this message in start.bat - 'a command line option has attempted to allow or enable the security manager. enabling a security manager is not supported' is there any way around it

[sweet spade]

you dont have a suitable ver of java installed

!openjdk

[versed mountain]

If the issue you're experiencing is clientside, and is not related to a server, then follow the "Java" section in our performance guide for how to switch to a newer, more stable version of Java.

If the issue you're experiencing is serverside, then follow the Java section of our server installation guide.

[south pawn]

ok thanks ill download an older one

[charred hull]

Heyo! Idk if its the right channel for it. Currently playing Better MC4, started yesterday, today i wanted to enter Twillight Forest and i get the Area Damage "Rain" like i would approach a not unlocked biome. I played TF before in other Modpacks but first time getting damage entering it right away. Thx for the help, much love!

[digital herald]

so i tried to install better mc in at launcher, it says these mods doesnt work

[near egret]

you need to press "open all in browser"

and it will download them for you

[digital herald]

thanks, it really helped

[digital herald]

well, theres a few mods that didnt install

[sweet spade]

they get copied into your modpack folder once theyre detected in your downloads folder

[digital herald]

theyre in download folder, and they still like that

i didnt understand

[south pawn]

version 17 works btw 😄 incase anyone else has the same question in the future

i had to delete my newer versions of java as it was putting them above the older ones

[sweet spade]

yes you can delete them from the downloads folder as long as atl detected them

[digital herald]

Ah, if i delete it what do i do? Reinstall it?

I compressed it and now rhey work

[atomic haven]

want is good way to find ancient city?

[faint ibex]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[digital herald]

what do i press here?

[frosty sorrel]

Guys by any chance have you had any issues that when you die, your dragon duplicates?

and dragon losses inventory items

[frosty sorrel]

Any dev that can guide me for this?

using apex host for my server

please

[sweet spade]

go to the config folder in your server files and find twilight forest and set uncrafting disabled to false

[frosty sorrel]

Is set to false for what I see

[frosty sorrel]

Blind, thank you

[sweet spade]

you cant move a save from bmc4 to bmc5

[placid nacelle]

anytime i try to have my friends join my world via the share world it says theres a error with luna after they join and then they get kickedand then they cant rejoin does anyone know why this could be

[glossy spade]

^^^same for me its always worked fine until this evening

he keeps gtting this

[tribal path]

erm 💔

[short oriole]

Hello, game crashes when i enter the world

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | hs_err_pid43957.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

# Problematic frame:
# v  ~StubRoutines::SafeFetch32

Found 1 log analysis results:
MacJDK in: hs_err_pid43957.log

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

Mod list was not modified.

[sweet spade]

!macjdk

[versed mountain]

For Mac devices using Apple Silicon/arm (M1/M2/etc.) CPUs

There is an issue with Java 17.0.8 and newer where you may experience "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment", which can cause the Java runtime to crash under a variety of circumstances. To resolve this:
Mac:

1. Go here and hover over the Download buttons until you see one with the option to install a .dmg file. If you have an M-series Mac, then make sure to install the ARM64 version of this file.
2. Run the !alternates command in #bots and follow the directions. If you already have ATL installed, move on to step 3.
3. Click "Settings" on the right
4. Click "Java/Minecraft" at the top
5. Set "Use Java Provided by Minecraft" to false by unchecking the checkbox
6. Manually specify the following Java path in the text box to the left to the "Reset" button: /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-21.jdk/Contents/Home

[deep bone]

For some reason on forge my carry mod has never worked and I'm unsure what I'm doing wrong, there are no key bind conflicts or anything like that

[candid nova]

Ik it says that the use of essential means support wont be granted, but the built in server hosting is just terrible for me in australia, other players have horrible ping and get kicked after ~5 mins due to 'lunar client error'. Ive already change the crash_assistant, problematic_mods_config for essentials to false and still doesnt work. Can someone help me?

[sweet spade]

i have no idea if you even can disable it but for clarifcation it would say an error with luna not lunar client which is completely dif thing

yeah the sharing servers r only in eu and us right now so that would be why its terrible for you

[candid nova]

my bad, i had the errors last night do not remember exactly

[sweet spade]

you can self host a dedicated sever for free

!server

[versed mountain]

Free Method

To host a server on your own computer, read the selfhosting guide.
This guide goes over how to install, create, and launch a free Minecraft server on all operating systems (MacOS, Linux and Windows). The guide also guides you through installing Java and optimizing your server for better performance.

If you are installing one of our older modpacks, ignore the "README" file that is included in the serverpack files, as they have outdated information.

Paid Method

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go here and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

The following advice works for both the Free and Paid methods:

Transferring Your World

If you're playing Singleplayer and want to transfer your world to your server, simply go to your modpack files and navigate to the saves folder. Inside of this folder, you will see your world saves. Rename your desired world save to world. You can then transfer this folder to your server files. If your world was hosted via world sharing, this process has to be done by the person who would click "Share World".

Fixing Lag

To resolve lag issues, simply run the !tps command in #bots and follow the directions provided.

[candid nova]

i have done the self hosting and it was bad aswell, is this an issue with my pc/internet?

[sweet spade]

if it was bad on hosting a dedicated server on your pc then it would likely be an issue on your end for that yeah

[short oriole]

I don't quiet understand how do I follow 2 step... I'm really noob at that. In which app should I find those commands

[agile cradle]

!alternates here in discord

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[wise vine]

are there any structures outside of the end that generate chorus plants?

[deep bone]

Any suggestions as to fixing this?

[short oriole]

https://paste.atlauncher.com/view/dea7d7c1-8255-4755-b783-71cefba356a0

crashed when i tried to play through ATL

[short oriole]

3-4 steps, where should i find those buttons, in corseforge app?

[sweet spade]

you cant change java ver on cf app

[sweet spade]

did you specifically download the jar version of atl

[short oriole]

Yeah, I did https://paste.atlauncher.com/view/042db45a-6da8-466f-9096-3036d9922856

[sweet spade]

can you send the crash report file

!logs

[versed mountain]

To better assist with fixing your issue, we will need some logs:

• Curseforge -> Right click the modpack instance -> „Open Folder”.
• ATLauncher -> Click „Open Folder” on the modpack instance.
• MultiMC -> Select your instance and click „Instance Folder” on the right.
• PrismLauncher -> Select your instance and click „Folder” on the right.
• For servers -> Open the folder containing your server files.

To find the „latest.log” file, navigate to the 'logs' folder.
To find the „hs_err_pid.log” file, simply look for the file name after opening the instance folder.
To find a crash report, navigate to the „crash-reports” folder and find the most recent file after your crash occurred.

Once located, please upload the requested file here. If it fails, upload to https://mclo.gs/ and share the link here.

[wispy trail]

Uploaded latest.log from @short oriole to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/LWDS7Ga

[sweet spade]

i need the crash report one

[wispy trail]

Uploaded 2025-11-06-3.log.gz from @short oriole to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/lacRTbG

[wispy trail]

Uploaded 2025-11-06-3.log from @short oriole to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/7jW17Qx

[sweet spade]

these are still just earlier log reports, specifically need a file from the crash report folder thats named crash report and the date

[wispy trail]

Uploaded crash-2025-11-06_12.59.34-client.txt from @short oriole to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/iKL8kws

[sweet spade]

yeah i've only seen this error happen when the jar ver of atl isnt installed on mac but the dev can correct me if im wrong when she backreads

ig either reinstall or u can try on prism in the meantime

!macalt

[versed mountain]

For Mac devices using Apple Silicon/arm (M1/M2/etc.) CPUs that don't work with ATLauncher

Certain modpacks might crash if used in Curseforge or ATLauncher. In those cases you should download and install PrismLauncher.

Installing modpack

Click "Add Instance", select "Curseforge", then filter the modpack you want to play. Select it and click on "OK".

Blocked mods

In some cases PrismLauncher is unable to download blocked mods. Click "Open Missing" to downloads then in a browser, into a folder listed under "Watched Folders" (or add a new location of your choosing). Once done - review if the list has all mods marked with green checkbox.

Installing Java

Before you launch the game click on your instance, click "Edit", go to Settings, Java, click on "Download Java". Select Azul Zulu, Java 21, 21.0.7. Once installed, click on "Auto-detect..." and select the Azul one you just downloaded. Make sure to also check "Skip Java compatibility checks".

Moving existing world from Curseforge app

To transfer your Curseforge world to PrismLauncher, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Folder" on PrismLauncher and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.

[short oriole]

are those settings correctly set?

[sweet spade]

checkbox ignore java checks

im going to bed so thats all i got

[short oriole]

thank you

[placid prism]

I heard you guys can check the problems within performances on mod packs and I use spark but of course I don’t know what any of it means so I ask my friend they seem to know mostly somewhat of why my performance is not going good, but they came here to make sure if she’s right because my game has been laggy for the past few days and I did took a spark profile starter and got the information while playing so what else do I do, do I just post it here or something?

Another note I can’t use sodium or lithium because those only run on fabric and mine is forge so I was wondering if there are any sort of performance mods on Ford that could help increase my performance or FPS to make my game run more smoother

[stone mountain]

If I understand correctly - you’re not asking about BMC @placid prism - if that’s the case - post your questions (and Spark link) in #1061339968691257466

!compare - use this tool to see what’s in BMC Forge packs, and see if you can utilise similar performance mods for your needs

[versed mountain]

https://www.modpackindex.com/modpacks

[placid prism]

Oops

[abstract egret]

Better MC 4 - v52 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
   curseforge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
   no
4. v52
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
   no
6. What steps cause the crash?
   starting world prep

latest.log | crash-2025-11-06_23.23.07-client.txt | CurseForge: launcher_log.txt | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Added mods:
displaydelight-1.4.0.jar
fossil-forge-1.20.1-9.3.0.2.jar
morehitboxes-forge-1.20.1-1.9.2.jar

[stone mountain]

This is caused by the mod you added

[abstract egret]

is there a reason why or a way to fix

or is that a me problem

[stone mountain]

The easiest way is to remove the conflicting mod - or reach out to the its author for help

It’s fossil one

[abstract egret]

yeah i thought so

thanks

[wet moon]

what causes the birch tree's to have orange leaves on the latest version of bmc4 (version 53)

[buoyant ivy]

what does this mean

[dreamy burrow]

guys is it possible to use Nvidium with bmc4

do i need to modify anything or jusr install the mod ?

[near egret]

its a fabric mod with some dependencies not available in forge iirc so you will need to tweak the fabric loader dependencies file

but even then it's not guaranteed it will work

i couldn't get it to work a few months ago but you might have better luck than me

[solar chasm]

Hello guys! Playing bmc5, and cannot find Warden Upgrade template in ancient city, where can i find it?

[nova geode]

a question:
How much RAM needs a Client to play this Modpack on my Server?

[past flume]

What's a good early level exp farm option in BMC4?

[grim arch]

any knows this error?

[wispy trail]

Uploaded message.txt from @grim arch to mclogs: https://mclo.gs/AxMag0k

[fair mesa]

https://mclo.gs/vWu3Uon
https://mclo.gs/fRPhLWd
https://mclo.gs/B0VVF7t

crashes everytime i try open

[sweet spade]

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[swift vector]

joining my partners world but any time i try to go into creative i crash.
the world is also more modded as well but moments ago it was working fine idk why its suddenly crashing.

can anyone think why it is?

[fair mesa]

Better MC 4 - v52 crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...) curseforge
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods? no
4. v52
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash? always crash before opening the game
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher

Mod list changes beyond the modpack:

Mod list wasn't modified.

[sweet spade]

!ca

[versed mountain]

https://files.horizon.pics/4de20432-0438-43db-864e-211a9a388ad0?a=580&mime1=video&mime2=mp4

[sweet spade]

!alternates

[versed mountain]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL. Keep in mind that ATL is NOT related to TLauncher in any way, and is not a cracked launcher.

To install ATL, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download. If you are on MacOS, then choose the "Jar" version under the "Other" tab.
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATL doesn't see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "Install". Then, follow the on-screen directions.
7. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.
This video explains the process: https://youtu.be/xMYW1wMbmkM

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATL, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATL and paste the Saves folder there. Do the same with the XaerosMinimap folder, or the Journeymap folder, to transfer over any waypoints you've created.
Because ATL downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATL also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATL installed.

[swift vector]

Better MC 4 - v53 crashed. The logs have been uploaded to mclo.gs:

1. 1.20.1 [FORGE]
2. What launcher did you run Minecraft with? (e.g. CurseForge, ATLauncher, MultiMC, ...)
3. Have you changed the modpack in any way except mods?
4. v53
5. Have you ever gotten past the crash condition without crashing, or does the game always crash?
6. What steps cause the crash?

latest.log | crash-2025-11-06_17.33.00-client.txt | atlauncher.log | crash_assistant_app.log | modlist.txt

Mod list changes on top of the modpack:

66 added, 3 removed, 0 updated.

[sweet spade]

the laser bridges mod you added is causing issues

its saying its registery object isnt present which usually means it cant find it in creative, and if you're playing thru world sharing on a single player world your partner likely doesnt have it installed on their side and thats causing it, if its a dedicated server its likely not server side

[swift vector]

okay thank you!

[nova geode]

a question:
How much RAM needs a Client to play this Modpack on my Server?

[sweet spade]

if you have 8gb ram total on your pc then 5gb allocated, if you have more than that, 8gb allocated

[nova geode]

thank you ;D