#elder-scrolls-general-chat

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lucid coral
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Ah you mean like Morrowind style Imperial forts, temples, guards and stuff?

pulsar root
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Ruined Forts I think should be used sparingly, not every single fort in a province is ruined/abandoned

lucid coral
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Speaking of temples the Imperial cult strangely vanished after MW. What happened to them

tardy tiger
tardy tiger
nimble pond
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Can we get storms besides rain? Like hail? Slow-falling glowing orbs that illuminate the night on occasion?

Pretty please

nimble pond
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And just wondering if we'll see class warfare (rich, poor, billionaire) in the next game. Along with the possibility of seeing the Thalmor inflict greater economic strain upon the rest of Tamriel.

nimble pond
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Hm. I wonder if it's possible to mod the BGS developers into the next game as NPCs (maybe even some as a mini-boss) with their personalities and own role/position to play in the game world. Or even as a guild with their own questline.

primal olive
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another 500 men lore sorry

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games need to stop being so men centric tbh

primal olive
pulsar root
nimble pond
primal olive
hallow coral
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...also men centric

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but what u said as well, my ramblings about tropes in video games aside i find it boring as hell when every setting is 'humans are the Main Race and elves and gnomes n stuff are like rare or dying out or ancient or live in alienages' which is why i like D&D because theres so many places that arent ruled by just humans

pulsar root
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...Elves aren't even rare... They have like 3 variations. High Elves, Wood Elves and Dark Elves. There was Snow Elves but......we know how that ended

hallow coral
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well i meant in general among the fantasy genre but also tbf in TES we're -always- in a human province

primal olive
hallow coral
primal olive
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the dunmer had a delicious cultural split that we can see influenced by irl things, a story between ashlander tribal folk and civilized house mer, the split that caused it and how it shapes them
nords and imperials are relatively bland in their games

hallow coral
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i would love if tes6 was set in elsweyr or summerset or valenwood personally, but it wont be. it'll be humans, with orc tribes in the hills, elves being racially profiled by the local humans and an imperialized pantheon as the only real 'godly' influence

primal olive
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also all our games will be generic imperial faith focused :P

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at least some armor designs in games resemble intended origins (morrowind ebony is imperial design while skyrim ebony is dunmer design)

hallow coral
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a funny example of a setting that did a good job of escaping the whole 'human centric' stuff is adventure time, where most humans are dead up until the end of the show where we find out there was a hidden colony of em

primal olive
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a basic color swap indicating metal material would be easy and cool

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dips Dyno in acid

hallow coral
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ah dammit i didnt even see where i said something wrong

primal olive
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if it's redguard post 4e they're going to be extremely prejudiced towards altmer sadly

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but they deserve having their culture explored
and not just redguard with dog crap imperial faith

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give me tu'whacca! give me tall papa! give me satakal! i dont even like redguards or tes humans and they deserve that goodness

hallow coral
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i mean they dont have to be central to the plot, i just want to get to see some of the culture. give us a quest where we're hunting relics of the hoonding or something idk, give us ANYTHING that delves deeper. but we all know that we're not getting that, we're getting imperialized humans.

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in fact u know what, i'd even take more druid stuff with the bretons (i did not care for the fire island or whatever stuff from eso)

primal olive
primal olive
hallow coral
primal olive
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i dont like nords
but they deserved better

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nord and imperial design irk me because they generally feel like if a personality type defined a race and it seems poor choice

pulsar root
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No human slander, boys....and girls. Or I'll summon terical.

Jokes aside. I know what I want from Imperials(the very basic human "race" option). and something something Empire related but It might be too spicy.

timid drum
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Noo wait till im free to summon Terical. Gotta make some popcorn for that

primal olive
nimble pond
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I'll be nice, the humans in TES are interesting, when they are undead.

junior ruin
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ES6 taking so long it makes you feel this old:

feral viper
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The worst class is all of them.

Because Classes are a bad mechanic.

tardy tiger
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Classes work as an idea to expand the magic of the world. It's more the player being stuck with one that's an issue tbh.

TES has been terrible with magic and ESO used classes to expand on magic.

Like my namesake who went from Paladin to Death Knight/Oathbreaker due to an event that happened during the game but TES can't really do anything like that.

nimble pond
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Oh and yes, if they're gonna have a big war battle somewhere in the main questline of TES6. It'd be cool to experience it with the mother of all storms appear during the middle of it. Like a Cat 5 hurricane. I have no idea if there is any sense of weather tracking in TES lore. But if so, just have the Thalmor conjure up an unnatural one, or I guess thru Shehai possibly.
Could have similar storm and big wave effects out at sea.

feral viper
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A career, or school of training, is not a Class.

pulsar root
noble verge
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The primary problem I see with traditional RPG classes is that Skyrim isn't a party based RPG. It's focused on you and you alone. You have to be able to do everything if you want to experience all of the content.

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I see no problem with something like Starfield's backgrounds or Dark Souls' starting classes, though. They start you out but don't constrain you going forward.

lucid coral
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Honestly i hope you get to take atleast two companions with you next game like Bioware games

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Starfield already has bits of that. You can take all the companions on ship and they have banter in between travels

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Do that but in normal on foot gameplay as well

upper umbra
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anyone on xbox have a build with a pipe organ I can look at?

vernal flint
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Can someone explain is there new elder scrolls online content free now

eager remnant
primal olive
feral viper
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Nah. Classes are more restrictive and deterministic than those.

pale mica
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Hi

marsh verge
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I have an Issue now. Not happy. If I heavy attack alone, No Misses, However if I heavy attack in between firing off other skills. 2/3rds are missed??/ What is this mess!!! And this is standing still at a dummy!

pale mica
marsh verge
# pale mica What are you talking about granny

They have nerfed when using heavy attack along with other skills, Heavy nearly never hits even if your standing in front of it. Critical surge takes 33 seconds till it needs to be refired. But using it with heavy, heavy is all the sudden 2/3rds missed. Same dummy, heavy only, it's 100% hit

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If they made a change they made a booboo. I remember recently they accidently did something in reverse and didn't fix it till next update/server deal

harsh crown
marsh verge
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ESO

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Online game

harsh crown
marsh verge
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and the only thing they say is re-download yadda yadda yadda, which is BS because the Heavy alone would have issues as well

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I fell like it's nerfed

harsh crown
keen pawn
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Hi guys! I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice for a dream job I wanna pursue. I want to work at Bethesda, but I need to work on a big portfolio first, I want to be a writer for their elder scrolls franchise or quests. I know thats a big dream, but it's one I aim to chase, any tips?

harsh crown
keen pawn
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Thank you!

harsh crown
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Always happy to help! ArgonianCheer

nimble pond
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So like. It would be great if we could sometimes encounter/witness (from a safe distance) ppl being eaten by creatures/monsters. Like a dragon swallowing a Bosmer. Giant ripping a Nord in half before taking a chunk out of their leg. A troll biting an arm off. I'm sure there are big things in the water that could do stuff like this too. Then kill em after to get double the loot.

pale mica
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Hi

nimble pond
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So, if they were to ever add an additional playable race.. A bird type beast race (like Argonian & Khajiit) would be nice & with the natural ability to "glide."

And if they sync it right, could land some amazing gliding sneak attacks upon foes. Like the owl silently strikes it's prey from above with perfect precision.

And it'd just be fun lifting enemies off the ground and then dropping them to the ground below. But perhaps that's going a bit far.

primal olive
pale mica
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Hi

feral viper
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At worst? Probably worst since I hate the idea of Akaviri humans.

Yeah, I'll go with worst.

primal olive
feral viper
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Let's dilute entire diverse cultural groups into mass market recognisable memes!

Yay, writing!

primal olive
feral viper
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It's especially bad with the Akaviri, because of the established Snake thing.

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Whoever thought it was a good idea to run with a well established racially derogatory depiction of the Japanese, shouldn't be doing worldbuilding.

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At least if they were ACTUAL snake people, you could kinda skirt the baggage. But when they're just Asiatic humans?

Not a good look

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And this is part of why I am generally against mono-themed cultures in fiction. It's too easy accidentally import blatant real world racial issues.

At least when you blend multiple influences, you can more easily detach the result for real world issues.

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And you almost always end up with a more interesting end result anyway. So plus plus.

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The other reason I'm against them, is they're boring.

pulsar root
timid drum
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Careful now, dont unleash the wrath of Terical šŸ˜†

astral hollow
feral viper
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The Nords are a great example of why I say it's boring.

Vikings weren't a people. They were a trade WITHIN a people.

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Designing an entire fantasy culture around, say, Vikings, is like designing an entire culture around Accountants.

It's shallow, nonsensical, and entirely misses how cultures function.

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When you develop a fictional group around these sorts of superficial concepts, you end up with cultures that don't stand up to any real scrutiny.

And the result of that is, you discourage investigation, digging and expiration. Because doing so very quickly shatters the fragile facade you've created.

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Well, most of the Khajiit homeland is arid, not forested.

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But I think Morrowind and the Dunmer still hold up so well, compared to... Well, everything else, because of this issue.

The Dunmer are a blend of at least 3 major cultures (Assyria, Feudal Japan, Pre-Ghengis Mongolia) and likely even more.

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The effort it takes to blend that combination even close to seamlessly means that you're creating something that is distinct, interconnected, and organic.

It's not just a facade or a meme that's easily recognizable, it's a facsimile of an actual culture that rewards you for looking into it.

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Even if it's not totally complete, and still has room to be refined, the work ultimately pays off way, WAY more than we've seen in literally anything Bethesda has made since (and arguably anything anyone else has made since).

astral hollow
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What about imperials

pulsar root
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TLDR: Too much roman. I see them as the default human option but I think they should have a little bit of Nord, a little bit of Breton, and a little bit of Redguard. Obviously with the typical medieval Europe stuff to. Not just "WE ROMANS but fantasy"

nimble pond
feral viper
tardy tiger
feral viper
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In the PGE, they were sort of described as a mix of Rome, Byzantium, Imperial China, and Shogunate Japan.

pulsar root
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I insist.

lucid coral
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Oblivion did butcher it into being.. whatever it was in Oblivion but still

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In fact Imperials weren't even a proper race before Redguard iirc

tardy tiger
pulsar root
feral viper
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Nothing says 'Im in charge' quite like an appeal to a god.

tardy tiger
lucid coral
tardy tiger
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Which in TES4 are just towers.

lucid coral
tardy tiger
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https://images.uesp.net/3/35/OB-place-Fort_Alessia.jpg

Yeah. TES4 only had a tower design for its so called forts.

Though the issue is with a lot of TES4 dungeon tilesets where the exteriors are really not great for making things with. You can't do anything but a tower and Ayleid exterior ruins you can really only make walls.

lucid coral
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Damn. That's sad

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There's the dlc fort atleast ig

noble verge
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They were proper forts in ESO

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I liked how even in ESO they doubled as mausoleums.

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Skyrim also did forts a lot better than Oblivion.

feral viper
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Oh man, I hate Oblivion's ruins so much... Like, who designed those interiors? They're just nonsense game-y mazes with no actual presence in the world.

Bethesda's environment design has vastly improved since then.

glass marlin
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Wasn't there only one dungeon designer during Oblivion's development?

lucid coral
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Make sure they're not largely copy pasted like Oblivion's

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Efforts to make Skyrim's world feel hand-crafted extended to the team abandoning the use of generated landscapes as they had done in Oblivion. While just one team member was charged with designing dungeons in Oblivion, Skyrim's 150 dungeons were designed by a group of eight people

pulsar root
feral viper
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Oblivion's were just meaningless spaces put together to fill with monsters to fight.

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Oblivion's design was Winchester House.

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I admit that's a personal preference thing, though.

tardy tiger
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Oblivion's the only game that I've bothered to use whatever spell does the ground trail to leave.

feral viper
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Clairvoyance.

marsh verge
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Well I want to thank Bethesda for making the game worse for me after the recent maintenance. Now instead of getting part way through before my game freezes in New Market, NOW everywhere my weapons are stuck in fire mode!! WTH

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I Die or get booteed

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kinda tired of this mess.. It's almost over and I still havent been able to complete even 5 dailies from my faction, but still havent hit the 5k favor

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I am not the only one either..

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If it's asny help to the dev's if they are reading this. I connect through the Charlotte NC server on steam

spare plaza
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is this for ESO?

marsh verge
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Yes

spare plaza
marsh verge
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And don't tell me re;oad game etc etc no addons etc etc. It hasn't chamged a thing

spare plaza
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ESO is made by Zenimax Online Studios

marsh verge
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@spare plaza I appreciate your trying to help but did all they asked and still, its getting worse

spare plaza
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We cannot help you here, as we did not make the game

marsh verge
spare plaza
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The only thing I can recommend is to keep replying to the ticket and tell Customer Support it's not been fixed

marsh verge
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Your not helping, Had no issues with the game until they started setting up for New market

spare plaza
marsh verge
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They arent doing anything about it. Already did all that

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They wont get any more of my money nor will they get referrals

gloomy anchor
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I can understand your frustration, but this discord is not the place to vent for the reasons Hadeostry said.

pale mica
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Hi

primal olive
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hello

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chat dead must've been murdered by violent nords

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(violent nord is like saying chai tea)

nimble pond
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Not only is synergy great with followers. It's also great when enemies are using their own synergy against you.

granite star
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Hi everyone. If this is the wrong section for this question please let me know the correct section and I will move it to the correct section and I will delete it from the wrong section. Is anyone else planning on waiting to get "consoles the elder scrolls 6/the elder scrolls 6 on consoles" until it has "mods/creations/whatever they are currently called"?

livid ingot
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I've only played on PC

pulsar root
granite star
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@primal olive @pulsar root nope, I am a console gamer and from what I read it seems way to difficult to install mods on pc.

primal olive
lucid coral
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That's it 😭

pale mica
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Hi

violet niche
nimble pond
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Next we'll be doing summons. Summoning Alduin in the Capital Wasteland to vanquish a pit of behemoths.

lucid coral
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Don't think it's possible in 3 tho it should work in 4 given the vertibirds work on modified dragon code

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And 76 already has sci fi dragons scorchbeasts

pale mica
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Hi

visual egret
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Hello/hola

steel zinc
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hello

visual egret
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:D

steel zinc
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eso poggers

sweet rover
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OI POG

visual egret
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Alguien que hable espaƱol por que mi ingles no es muy bueno

steel zinc
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ThumbsUp bethesda

tall ivy
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Ok now where’s the general general chat 🦃

twin sentinel
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hey @sand charm, nice to see you're still around šŸ™‚

obsidian palm
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why no Redguard, Battlespire, or Travels chat

steel zinc
obsidian palm
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FNV wasnt made by BGS either

steel zinc
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oh

twin sentinel
cursive sundial
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I chatted with Captain Eldrad just a few days ago (original creator of fishy sticks back in 2001).

final vapor
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hello

limpid needle
remote vault
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Make a fishystick emote

limpid needle
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+1

final vapor
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Valenwood sounds cool

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You think it's gonna be the next location?

thorn hazel
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It’s great to see the fishy stick again. Has the team considered making it an emote?

true loom
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blessed be the fishy stick

steel zinc
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wait where is dishonored chat?

buoyant pulsar
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That's BGS discord Server not Arkane

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Let me find the Arkane Discord server

steel zinc
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oooh

remote vault
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Check out a dishonored discord server I guess

steel zinc
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u can dm me it.

opaque ingot
remote vault
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Bethesda are only gonna have games they’ve developed here

buoyant pulsar
remote vault
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Came here for the fishystick

Disappointed and let down

buoyant pulsar
steel zinc
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so im assuming bethesda only published it?

agile relic
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Or there already exists Fallout emotes from the mobile app etc where it's easy to pull them from

limpid needle
remote vault
spare anchor
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We're working on emotes, I believe. That's just what was on hand

limpid needle
steel zinc
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ah

limpid needle
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One is called Bethesda Game Studios, it makes games

steel zinc
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ok. thanks for clarifying

limpid needle
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Other is called Bethesda Softworks, it's the publisher

steel zinc
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ooooh

limpid needle
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BethSoft owned BGS

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And a bunch of other studios

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But now it's all under Microsoft

steel zinc
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that makes alot more sense

reef hedge
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guessing this channel will be used for larger lore themes encompassing all of elder scrolls nodders

cursive sundial
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And if you want to discuss the best phone game ever, Shadowkey.

thorn hazel
violet lodge
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All these channels for the Elder Scrolls games but none for Redguard?

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:/ /s

dim reef
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But which game is the most cannon?

violet lodge
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hmmm

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Elder Scrolls Pinball

thorn hazel
dim reef
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Zeta invaders is most cannon imo

violet lodge
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tbh, im still waiting for an Elder Scrolls Grand Strategy

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Something like Eu4 or Hoi4

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but set in Elder Scrolls

oblique quiver
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it's a mod for crusader kings

violet lodge
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noice

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sadly I dont own any of the CK games

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im mostly a hoi4, Eu4, and Vic 2 player when it comes to Paradox

prime marlin
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shadowkey deserves to be ported to ios

craggy yarrow
prime marlin
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or android

craggy yarrow
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Its worth it my dude

steel zinc
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why not both?

prime marlin
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both is good

oblique quiver
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you can probably emulate Shadowkey on android

craggy yarrow
violet lodge
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lol

prime marlin
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a good 4 player coop elderscrolls on modern mobile

violet lodge
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Maybe they should do an Elder Scrolls Legends Pack where you get Shadowkey, BattleSpire, Redguard, ect in one game, sell it for like $5 on Steam

prime marlin
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shadowkey is hard

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shadowkey is on a modified sd card compatible format

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and its java

craggy yarrow
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See it would make sense to forward port games like dawnstar and shadowkey but theyre really not compatible with modern stiff

prime marlin
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but its weird

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redguard and battlespire ar eboth available on gog

violet lodge
craggy yarrow
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They were made for pc in mind, like the es mobile games were mobile games before modern app stores existed

thorn hazel
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The problem with shadowkey porting is it uses an os for the ngage that no other phone/pc uses.

prime marlin
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the orginal fallouts were made for pc
the majority of tes spinoffs were for pc
4 were for phones and a cancelled oblivion for psp (which is sad)

steel zinc
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"A dragon? in skyrim?"

plucky elm
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Dragons in my homeland

dusty snow
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Hi

frosty coral
dusty snow
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Sup spoon

frosty coral
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New place to write some stories instead of GG.

trim horizon
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Heyo

wind pond
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Any bets on how quickly this discord will shut down due to kids' incessant spam about TES:VI?

oblique quiver
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The whole discord?! That would be impressive

opaque ingot
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Tes 6 wen? /s

scenic meteor
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2077

fallen steppe
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Spring 2001!

indigo sluice
dim reef
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What’s GG?

cinder sonnet
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@dim reef Good game! People say to each other after fight in PvP Arena - ESBlades.

dim reef
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I was a bit confused

cinder sonnet
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There’s a discord server with the same name dedicated to PvP

dim reef
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I don’t like pvp. Sorry that probably added to my confusion

cinder sonnet
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I don’t mind either depend on the mood lol

opaque ingot
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I dont like being matched with people outside my lvl bracket

violet lodge
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I love how the old games like Daggerfall have activity in them

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its cool!

trim horizon
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Agreed

undone sinew
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Oh boy I sure can't wait for Redfall
The Romanelli will be great
Winks at bethesda employees

thorn hazel
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Ah Romanelli what Skyrim could have been.

vital wind
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would be cool if Skyrim SE got that Oblivion mod on console... sucks that its only PC via Nexus atm

pulsar bramble
vital wind
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ah

pulsar bramble
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Yeah. :/

final vapor
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Would be cool if there was some technological advancement in ES6

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Maybe with some early era magic guns or something.

eternal tapir
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A post on TESLore sums it up better that I can, hold on

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"Tamriel isn't pre-industrial; it's post-apocalyptic" —someone here, a bit ago, and I can't find a link. You know who you are. Pitch in;)

Tamrielic society has gotten progressively worse and worse as history grinds onwards.

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Now... i'm not saying there shouldn't be a status quo reset later down the line. Perhaps beginning with ES6 there could be an End Times event (And NO, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THE THALMOR IS TRYING TO UNMAKE REALITY, THAT IS AN UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIM ASSUMED FROM A DELETED LINE) leading into the Elder Scroll's version of Age of Sigmar that brings things back to 1st era

final vapor
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It's just the nordic aesthetic.

eternal tapir
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That's one of the worst things about Elder Scrolls becoming mainstream this late into the series - 10+ year gap between games and you have to explain all of this to a public who only associates the series with a nord with shouting powers.

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comparable to those "comic book fans" who cry foul at Man of Steel - completely ignorant of developments such as post-Infinite Crisis and New 52

narrow hull
eternal tapir
narrow hull
eternal tapir
narrow hull
eternal tapir
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It's only until around 2019 or so that much of the public discussion is slowly going towards the rest of the games, thank goodness... but that's just on the internet.

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"Name 5 characters from morrowind"

narrow hull
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Yeah, people had to tire of Skyrim eventually

narrow hull
eternal tapir
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And the one question that always bothers hardcore TES fans the most:
"Who's the canon victor of the civil war?"
No please that's not going to be answered in 6

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if you need to answer that Bethesda would repeat daggerfall's mistakes

narrow hull
eternal tapir
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And even worse... people wanting or expecting the thalmor to be an overarching enemy because "Elf Nazis" and "Towers"

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It just won't happen

narrow hull
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I mean, you can't really sympathize with them in Skyrim lol

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They are just jerks

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Overarching is a bit much since they literally just got introduced and were reformed between Oblivion and Skyrim so they couldn't have anything to do with what happened pre Skyrim, and they aren't really involved with the return of the dragons šŸ¤”

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They are still a pretty grounded threat to be dealt with, but it isn't guaranteed that they'll be antagonists in TES6

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Considering the time skip and world building that happened between Oblivion and Skyrim, they could literally just vanish behind the scenes

eternal tapir
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I'm ranting since i'm skeptical about how public perception could affect the larger stories and thematic presentation down the line

narrow hull
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What I'm more interested in is how the Empire is gonna fare in future game since it was such a staple of the franchise (to the point one of the playable races is literally named imperials.) Are they truly waning? Is the entire Tamriel gonna balkanize in its absence or is another power gonna replace it?

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That seems like a much more pressing issue to be solved in TES6

eternal tapir
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A new status quo most likely, since BGS has to make wherever the game will take place different than its ESO counterpart

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Every region being ruled by their own factions, most likely

narrow hull
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Imagine if the Dominion replaced it and we just had to deal with jerk elves ruling as a fact of life in Tamriel

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Would be a dark era for TES

eternal tapir
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And would be a cheap way of appealing to Skyrim fans

narrow hull
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Altmer seem much more oppressive than imperials

eternal tapir
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I'd rather see something new than try to capitalize on an often-misunderstood faction that wasn't supposed to go beyond Skyrim

narrow hull
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Who knows? I literally have no clue what to expect of the next game lol

eternal tapir
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There IS going to be at minimum a 15+ year gap between Skyrim and ES6 which will attract all those Gen Alphas... rather do something for them than cash in in Gen Z nostalgia

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Most will either be 13 14 or 15 by the time it hits the shelves

narrow hull
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It's so mind boggling that TES6 is the new HL3

eternal tapir
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I wonder if the game can hold up to an honestly wonderful masterpiece that was Cyberpunk 2077... the best western RPG i've played in years.

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Rockstar better take notes too... i've never seen another open world game that properly conveys scale in a city enviornment

narrow hull
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I thought the first part of your comment was a joke lmao

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Which speaks a lot about long delayed overhyped games

eternal tapir
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Writing is great, character animation is great, city design is great, driving is realistic [depending on if you like it or not] crafting is GARBAGE

narrow hull
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Cyberpunk is very hit or miss with people, and usually to an extreme

eternal tapir
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Side quests are honestly unforgettable too

eternal tapir
narrow hull
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Either way, TES6 will have to evolve the TES gameplay. It's hard to compete with Skyrim which was such an iconic game

narrow hull
eternal tapir
narrow hull
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It just reminded me way too much of The Outer Worlds, which I didn't love either

eternal tapir
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Now back onto topic

reef hedge
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outer worlds was alright

eternal tapir
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Would you rather marry an Argonian or Khajiit

reef hedge
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nothing special imo, but a decent enjoyable game

narrow hull
reef hedge
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probably khajiit

narrow hull
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Argonians can be a stick in the mud

eternal tapir
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Argonians IMO, less work needed and they can breathe underwater

reef hedge
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why is breathing underwater useful in a wife blobsweat

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or husband

eternal tapir
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You know... fishing and....

reef hedge
eternal tapir
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I mean, a healing potion could cure brain damage in case she took it too far

narrow hull
reef hedge
eternal tapir
narrow hull
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Has anyone tried playing a TTRPG set in TES?

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Shout out to UESRPG

last dew
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I really hope there's not going to be Creation Club in Elder Scrolls 6. Just saying.

eternal tapir
eternal tapir
narrow hull
reef hedge
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i also hope theres a season pass that includes creation club

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even if its seperate to a season pass for the main dlc

last dew
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Now you guys are trolling.

narrow hull
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Rather have free access to them that buy through micro transactions

reef hedge
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im actually a fan of creation club

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the more recent stuff is really good quality

narrow hull
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I'm not, but I see the potential

last dew
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I worry that would mean that if Creation Club continues, it would replace modding in general.

eternal tapir
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Replace the creation credits and it would be perfect

reef hedge
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its by no means going to replace modding ever

narrow hull
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I couldn't bring myself to spend a penny in it in Skyrim or FO4

eternal tapir
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In fact Creation Club is better because all the items are tested all across the board instead of being made around a single PC rig

reef hedge
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its not even an alternative to modding

reef hedge
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i use creation club alongside a heavy load order

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creation club has already improved by miles since the initial release, and if it continues im sure itll have improved even more by the time TES 6 comes along

last dew
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Well Creation Club was poorly executed through launch. For example, downloading the Nix-Hound content that you only get a pet that does nothing but carry stuff, yet does not help you in combat, while other Nix Hounds hostile to you can have the ability to engage combat.

reef hedge
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it excites me if anything

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thats a condition of all creation club pets as they use a seperate framework to regular pets

last dew
#

And Knights of the Nine content, why would Bandits be able to wear the armor that is clearly not worthy to them? It's clearly lore breaking. Only those who have washed the sins for the Nine divines can wear them.

reef hedge
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thats an initial release creation, most of which were low quality for sure, and knights of the nine is the worst offender

narrow hull
reef hedge
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nothing even comes close to the knights of the nine creation

last dew
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I like the armor in Knights of the Nine content itself, but the way it was executed was poor IMO.

reef hedge
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and look at the newer releases and the quality and execution is great

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everything has a quest and often a dungeon now

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and theyre interesting stories

narrow hull
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Can we admit the quest to find most cc artifacts are pretty convoluted and bland? Lol

last dew
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One of the few creation clubs I like was the mudcrab pet content.

reef hedge
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even alternate armours provides a longer overaching story of the crimson dirks, in the form of new books

thorn hazel
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I really do hope they get a chance to release the rest of the ones they had planned

eternal tapir
narrow hull
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Though I can't speak for the most recent ones. I watched a few of the older ones on YouTube

thorn hazel
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The crimson dirk one for instance isn’t finished yet

reef hedge
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dawnfang and duskfang also have a nice dungeon and quest

last dew
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Look, just because I like the creation club mudcrab content, doesn't mean I'm the fan of Creation club itself. Plus, the mudcrab content was free when I got the chance the get it.

reef hedge
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mudcrab has always been and always will be free

last dew
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That's the only creation club content I downloaded.

thorn hazel
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Saints and seducers was amazing

reef hedge
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^^^

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forgotten seasons is also incredible

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and spell knight

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such an interesting quest for such a beautiful set of armour

last dew
#

Well I still don't like that Creation Club prices are overpriced.

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Mostly.

thorn hazel
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Definitely. I also liked the Cyrus one only because it’s our first mention of Cyrus in a long long while.

narrow hull
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I wish the creation club was used to bring some weapons and armor from ESO to Skyrim.

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:(

reef hedge
last dew
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There are already mods for that.

reef hedge
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all of the "alternate armour" sets have been free, for example

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survival mode (which i can no longer play without) has been free twice

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i believe camping too

last dew
#

By "alternate armor" does that mean replace vanilla armor? Or just actual standalone armor?

reef hedge
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standalone, integrated to NPCs

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adds nice variety to bandits

narrow hull
reef hedge
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and unlike mods, creation club armours all fit in with skyrims aesthetic, they dont feel modded

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if that makes sense

last dew
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Yeah Eric, but they don't have mod authors that make content for Zenimax games, only Zenimax themselves make it.

narrow hull
# reef hedge if that makes sense

It does. Well, somewhat. Some artifacts do feel kinda weird. They didn't have the same care creating them as the original Skyrim devs did with their assets. It's a step up from mods, but quality still varies compared to the game itself

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Some artifacts feel like their TES3 or 4 version with more polygons lol

reef hedge
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whilst i agree with the earlier content, id say newer stuff like sunder and wraithguard, umbra, and artifacts from saints and seducers all feel at least skyrim quality if not higher

narrow hull
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IMO ESO has been better at updating artifacts to modern TES

last dew
#

I rather for "mini-dlcs" would just have actual dialogue instead of re-used or edited ones.

reef hedge
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the problem with dialogue is localising for every officially supported language

thorn hazel
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The book breadcrumb trail is good for most.

reef hedge
#

it may not be a problem when creation club is more popular, but as it stands now its too expensive an endeavour

narrow hull
last dew
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Well, now that Microsoft owns Bethesda, maybe they'll probably improve in the future?

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I mean, I don't know how, but Microsoft has tons of resources.

reef hedge
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true

thorn hazel
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It’s too bad they cant have a creation club for oblivion or morrowind. I’d love official content that adds to the older games

last dew
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I rather leave the old games alone, unless they get remastered into updated game engines.

narrow hull
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Same

last dew
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Because creation club for oblivion and morrowind seems out of the question and out of reach. That would just be weird.

reef hedge
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i wouldnt even need a skyrim level engine to enjoy a remaster, just morrowind with a 64bit engine, cleaned up UI, maybe higher res textures and lighting and im happy

narrow hull
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I've said it before. It's so weird that Morrowind or Oblivion haven't been officially remade and we have to content with fan recreations šŸ¤”

reef hedge
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the fan recreations look very good tbh

last dew
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Yes!

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Anyway, don't want to change the subject, but do you think the Second Great War will be in Elder Scrolls 6?

reef hedge
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i do

narrow hull
reef hedge
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i think TES6 will take place towards the end of it

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with most of tamriel belonging to the dominion, and you fighting the last stand in hammerfell

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fighting against an overwhelming force

narrow hull
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Not before TES6 is released, then they turn their efforts to remake Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim in the new engine.

last dew
#

Now I would worry the fate of Skyrim in Elder Scrolls 6

narrow hull
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That's as likely as any other theories for TES6 lmao

reef hedge
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skyrim being in the hands of the dominion by the time TES6 comes means bethesda doesnt need to say who won the civil war, leaving that decision up to the player

reef hedge
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bethesda likes protecting player choice nodders

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and i hope they stick to it

last dew
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I hope the Thalmor are the main villains in ES6

narrow hull
reef hedge
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how can they make it matter without invalidating one or the other?

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unless they include save transfers

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which is possible tbh

narrow hull
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By not touching on Skyrim at all šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

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Think about it, how much have you heard about Morrowind in TES4?

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Skyrim is the odd one out since it had a time skip and had a serious dose of world building between games

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But we still don't know the true stat eof many nations that border Skyrim

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Like High Rock or Hammerfell

reef hedge
narrow hull
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And we know only a little about the state of Cyrodiil and Morrowind

thorn hazel
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I really hope we get a couple creation club content to hint at and lead up to TES VI when it comes time

reef hedge
#

we hear a little about hammerfell too

narrow hull
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Very little lol

reef hedge
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we hear whats important that the fight is still alive against the thalmor nodders

narrow hull
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Yeah, but we don't hear details like who's its ruler, which redguard faction is ruling it, so on

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All we know at the end of the civil war is that neither the Empire or the Stormcloaks rule Skyrim, both sides still say they'll hold a Moot in the future at the end of their questline

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TES6 could be set post this Moot

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So Skyrim is whole again, ruled by a High King or Queen, but we don't need to know who won the war

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Or the Moot could be post-poned forever and Skyrim fractures into a bunch of Jarldoms instead of being a kingdom, which is my dream scenario but highly unlikely lmao

reef hedge
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thing is the civil war is all about making a one sided moot

narrow hull
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yup

reef hedge
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replacing all the jarls to either elisif sided or ulfric sided, so as soon as one side wins its basically confirmed whos gonna become high king/queen

narrow hull
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We still probably won't know the result of said Moot, or they end up electing a ruler who's neither Elisif or Ulfric~~, like Maven~~

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Any Jarl could be up for the title

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Balgruuf could be a strong contender if they want to go with one who kinda appeases both sides

last dew
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I was about to say, Balgruuf is a better ruler than any other Jarl because he truly cares about his people and once said he visited the Bannered Mare to socialize with the people.

narrow hull
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Either way, I feel like we'll only see the Empire's power diminish, either put to the brink by winning the Civil War, or losing a massive legion to the Stormcloaks. They also lost their Emperor during a critical time.

reef hedge
last dew
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Yeah.... gotcha.

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He's a nord, so he has bad temper. But you may be right about being a horrible husband and father.

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Not all nords have bad temper, let me clarify

reef hedge
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balgruuf is known, amongst nords, to have a bad temper

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ulfric states this i believe

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lemme check

narrow hull
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My bet for TES6 is that either the Dominion is gonna be the major power replacing the Empire, or that the provinces are mostly independent. Skyrim is reunited, independent and back to worshiping Talos (the empire was never against Talos worship anyway.)

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That is if we even hear that much about what's happening in Skyrim at all.

last dew
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Of course the Empire was never against Talos worship, they were forced to ban the worship of Talos in the treaty with the Dominion

modern hare
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I do hope if we go to hammerfell we get to actually see a fully realized 4th era orsinium.

remote vault
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Definitely. It’d be cool if we were able to build it up or something, it being a new orsinium made by a union of orsimer tribes

thorn hazel
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I’d love to see more trinimac worship.

stoic fiber
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I was always one with LadyN's understanding of Orsinium, in that, as Aldmeris is spiritually cursed, Orsinium is physically cursed, always to fall and crump and laid to ruins. As corny it is, the real Orsinium were the friends we made along the way DisapprovingOrc

reef hedge
signal remnant
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we need a chat for redguard and the travels games

spare anchor
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That would be here. General is for anything not covered by the named channels

signal remnant
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thx i shall discuss the finest entries into the franchise here

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redguard established the future of tes with its lore and despite the game itself not being all that great, the lore allowed for the games to grow beyond what they were and truly become their own thing

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future spin off games, such as redguard and the travels games, allow lore to be expanded through linear narratives and would help to give writers some freedom and allow further exploration of events or time periods not fully explored

thorn hazel
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I just wish we would have gotten TESA: Eye of Argonia.

signal remnant
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same

slender knot
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Blackmarsh is hard to make, when they set the lore to make it pretty much completely uninhabitable by non-argonians @thorn hazel

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Either that, or it'll be the perfect game for Scalies.
XD

thorn hazel
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The story would have been an adventure game set in black marsh with Cyrus going after the gem.

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It was in concept stages before it was cancelled due to redguard underperforming

narrow hull
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AAnd while the parts we visit aren't uninhabitable, we do see some hints that the Marsh itself is pretty hostile, there are many plants that straight up attack you.

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Sadly, ESO doesn't have any disease gameplay to know how contagious it would be in these border zones, but we do see outlanders living in cities like Stormhold, Gideon and Lilmoth

mellow dagger
junior kettle
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Give high rock to the orcs

gusty crag
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I wrote a DND campaign where Aldmaris was the super continent and the only fighting was unarmed or magic

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Abandoned it though before fleshing it out

slender knot
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@narrow hull Remember Far Cry 2 where you literally had Malaria and had to medicate yourself? Maybe something similar for outlanders in black marsh, lol

reef hedge
narrow hull
stoic fiber
magic tundra
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Did Stormhold and Dawnstar add much to the lore?

stoic fiber
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There was the Ice Tribe, those were interesting

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For the most part they were mere hack and slashes

dim reef
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they added a monster that was never mentioned again

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the Gehenoth

stoic fiber
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That too

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There were these artefacts, Starfrosts. Iirc they were like some magical frost used for prayers in Dawnstar and elemental magic

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Oh and the Trollkin too

dim reef
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dawnstar has a lot more going on than stormhold

stoic fiber
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I dont know much of Stormhold

dim reef
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i had to look up stormhold and i do not remember the story at all

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its like, prison and the prisoners are forced to dig up crystals?

stoic fiber
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Oh yea there were crystals

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There was this thing, a Storm Crystal no?

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Another great magickal morpholith or something

magic tundra
#

i need to make an Elder Scrolls Travels Imports mod for skyrim

oblique quiver
dim reef
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hope that wouldn't be too much work though

stoic fiber
stoic fiber
magic tundra
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But first i need to finish blades Imports

dim reef
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well i said it there but im making fun of myself

stoic fiber
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Idk much about Stormhold either s'all good

magic tundra
#

I'd like to play Shadowkey

stoic fiber
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There is a project currently going on iirc, that is trying to port it into Morrowind

dim reef
oblique quiver
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you can emulate Shadowkey now, as far as I know

stoic fiber
#

Yup. If they can somehow remake Redguard as well, I'd be complete.

Redguard>Shadowkey>Dawnstar>Stormhold
is my order for "misc" TES Games

dim reef
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i may have a shadowkey profile picture but i never actually played it

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not yet anyways

stoic fiber
#

Our profile pictures are "you vs the Altmer she tells you not to worry about" ayrenn

dim reef
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which ones me? everyone loves the shadowkey elf so im guessing im the latter

magic tundra
stoic fiber
#

It is but it is the most unplayable game 😢 Which sucks because it has one of the top stories of TES.

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I was never able to finish it, I had to watch a walk through

magic tundra
#

Also, don't forget Battlespire

dim reef
#

those three along with arena are games i really want to be remade

stoic fiber
# magic tundra Also, don't forget Battlespire

Oh right. For some reason, my brain registered it as part of the main series. I did play through Battlespire however - I find it much more playable than Redguard. But Battlespire in Morrowind would also be fantastic.

magic tundra
stoic fiber
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Games I completed: Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Battlespire, Daggerfall
Games I played like half way and gave up and watched a walk through: Arena, Redguard

gusty crag
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Dude I wish they bring back climbing in the next game but I hope they don't make it like breath of the wild

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And the throwing stars from Morrowind

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I wanna be Ninja spell blade

dim reef
#

Would anyone care to hear alchemical desires in elder scrolls 6?

thorn hazel
stoic fiber
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I will give it a gander! First time hearing about it

barren pebble
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what if for the 10th anniversary of skyrim they remaster it in the new engine they're using for Starfield, to show it off

obviously they most likely aren't doing this and it would have needed months, maybe years of planning but eh hopeful dream

dim reef
#

Looking for some new friends to quest and explore with in ESO PC! Message me ASAP

magic tundra
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Server?

verbal jungle
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Elder scrolls mmmm very good game 10/10 epic

jagged lichen
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Morning 🄸

reef hedge
#

settlement system in TES 6

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opinions?

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or just a system similar to fallout 4's settlement system

narrow hull
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It's inevitable.

flint quail
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I want a CAMP like item

narrow hull
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TES6 will have a settlement-like system

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You can see that's what they were trying to do with Hearthfire but their tech wasn't there yet

distant star
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I sure hope it will, I loved that system

narrow hull
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I doubt it will be as in depth as FO4 to the point of managing resources and settlers, since that was a theme very particular to Fallout (resettling the wasteland.) More likely we'll be able to build out own strongholds and possibly hire some NPCs

distant star
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Oh like a more in depth thing of the house stronghold from Morrowind? Would be cool

narrow hull
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Perhaps food/water management in the strongholds could be part of a survival mode, since they have been taking survival options more seriously

gray mesa
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Hope having your own stronghold would be a late game thing then.
Prefer to keep the feeling of working yourself up from nothing

narrow hull
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To be fair, the manors in HF start out as tiny houses which you expand upon lol

distant star
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Ah, I rarely do those, I’m usually either too broke or too busy

narrow hull
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I could see that being available from near the beginning

gray mesa
#

Not sure I would like that. Suppose it depends on how it's done.

distant star
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Imo, I can see it being closer along the lines of us getting a hub and us expanding on it, like the vault dlc in 4 where we could ā€œexcavateā€ more and more to expand our vault

distant star
#

Rather than full on settlement building

narrow hull
#

Wouldn't make sense to restrict it to a single location lol

distant star
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No I mean for the settlement building thing

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Not for homes

narrow hull
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Yeah, I'm talking about that lol

distant star
#

Ah I see, fair enough

narrow hull
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I think there's going to be multiple. Hearthfire gives us three options already

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Can't see why they'd keep it to a single location that some fans might dislike.

distant star
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Makes sense

narrow hull
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Plus it wouldn't require much story setup in game? The bare minimum would be buying a land deed from a local ruler

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But they could tie them to questlines to unlock some locations

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Kinda like what FO4 does. Gives you a bunch of locations, some are free to take once you've cleaned it out, some require a quest

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Though the CAMP system from FO76 is an interesting development. Allowing the player to build anywhere.

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I could see them taking some notes from it. Even if it's just a system to build temporary survival camps

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inb4 the tagline for TES6 is "You see that mountain? You can build on it."

clever falcon
#

You'll probably be able to build your own fife or something, as explanation for the CAMP system adjacent

signal remnant
#

man if it is hammerfell and high rock its gonna give so many possibilities

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im expecting only hammerfell personally tho

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shape of hammerfell and high rock on a map together really appeals to me tho

clever falcon
#

6 is 110% just Hammerfell, the player will probably be the HoonDing/Last Sword Singer

dim reef
#

i don't know about it being just hammerfell. personally i think it'll be like daggerfall but bigger in scope. and i wouldn't mind that.

signal remnant
#

HoonDing is pretty much a guarantee if hammerfell is included

clever falcon
#

Nah if ESO is any metric (and I hope it isn't) Beth has no love for Highrock.

signal remnant
dim reef
#

eso isn't made by bethesda. and i think they have love for it.

clever falcon
#

They kinda messed up by giving Cyrods the Bretons' European schtick in TES4, though not exactly in an interesting way.

signal remnant
#

eso writers got no love for the bretons

clever falcon
#

Besides they'd need a whole new style of dungeon tileset for Direnni ruins

dim reef
#

high rock is more reminiscent of european stuff like britain or italy, while cyrodiil is more like rome and greece with its own splash of variance like skingrad, chorrol, and such.

clever falcon
#

I'd have preferred Romans mixed with Slavs for the Colovians, and Romans mixed with Japanese for the Nibenese as the older lore said. What we got was erm. D&D forgotten realms, or Gondor.

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Which to be fair would be too bland for Highrock even

dim reef
#

well time constrains and engine limitations. sutch was removed due to disk space.

clever falcon
#

I don't buy that, they could have made more distinctive cultures and better looking armors

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But the LOTR movies were all the rage at the time, so the Oblivion guards all wear gondorian armor

reef hedge
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i hope its only hammerfell

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lets take a break from the more typical fantasy we've had in skyrim and oblivion

clever falcon
#

Again, Cyrodiil was meant to be "mostly jungle"

reef hedge
#

and then they changed that retcon into a lore thing nodders

clever falcon
#

Retcons are bad if they make a setting less interesting

dim reef
#

i never liked the idea of it being a jungle. so i'm personally glad it was changed.

reef hedge
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point was it wasnt a retcon in the end

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because its explained in universe

clever falcon
#

Subjective opinions

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Still a poor change imo

reef hedge
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or not explained but at least addressed

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imo cyrodiil would without a doubt have been cooler as a jungle, but the lore thing we got out of it changing to a forest is even cooler

dim reef
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i just don't really like jungle settings. at the most it'd have been fine if the areas near the elsweyr border were more jungle-ish but that's about it for me.

clever falcon
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My prediction: TES6 hammerfell, DLC1 Orsinium, DLC2 Yokuda where we fight the First Sword Singer that isn't just Frandar Hunding for some reason

reef hedge
#

daedric themed second dlc

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as per skyrim, oblivion and morrowind following that rule

clever falcon
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Main plot Crowns (blue) vs imperials (red), Thalmor trying to use the Adamant Tower to kill Nirn mages guild plot

reef hedge
#

i predict the second dlc will see the return of jyggalag

gray mesa
#

I definitely want Hammerfell

reef hedge
#

alternatively the second dlc is orsinium with a large focus on malacath

gray mesa
#

Generic European High Rock would bore me and kinda be a Skyrim/Cyrodiil mix. Nothing really new.

reef hedge
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malacath is worth dlc

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would be nice to see what jyggy's been up to tho

dim reef
#

if jyggalag is a dlc plot, i'd like it if we were to help him make his own plane of oblivion.

reef hedge
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help him??

dim reef
#

yeah.

signal remnant
#

i could def see an orsinium and malacath focused dlc

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would probably go to the ashpit in it

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i would love to see a sanguine pirate themed dlc as well

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with stros m’kai, the chain, and betony

clever falcon
#

Malacath is a huge bro

signal remnant
#

malacath seems like one of the better princes to worship, especially if u an orc

clever falcon
#

Spheres are curses, the spurned, and oaths

signal remnant
#

malacath is pretty chill

clever falcon
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Ironically moreso than the three good Daedra

signal remnant
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as long as u love azura she chill, but dont go against her or she gonna hold a grudge

clever falcon
#

Azura is the most chill of the three, though not saying much

verbal jungle
#

Elder scrolls mmmm very good game 10/10 epic

spice whale
#

yup, each of them <Š—

boreal pecan
#

Hey, I'm looking for people on the European server, who can help me with the Scalebreaker achievement

lavish rock
#

Wonder if Bethesda will make another teaser of TES6 this year or next

graceful schooner
#

Either way I can’t wait

soft ibex
#

I need tea6 šŸ˜…

grave pebble
#

go brew it then

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6 times

wanton violet
#

is this the right channel to ask information about elder scroll online?

dim reef
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yeah i guess

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its general so i guess you could talk about all the spin offs... besides blades which gets it's own channel

wanton violet
#

trying to read about that game to see if i'll enjoy it, was wondering how it feel/compare to other mmo like swtor or wow for exemple? mostly found guide for idk how many build and man it do semm a lot more complicated ^^'

reef hedge
#

can't speak for other MMOs but ESO has got great tutorial systems, and if you don't want to worry about having to make your own build you can just follow one of the template builds the game gives you

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not complicated at all imo

wanton violet
#

from what ive read, sorcerer seem the easy option class wise (and i always liked summoner which i think they can be) but i remember liking playing a melee mage kind of hybrid so maybe dragonknight i think its the closest to that?

dim reef
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you can make multiple characters

wanton violet
#

i dont doubt that but if i can break my habit of making too many character and ending up going nowhere, that be nice lol

eager remnant
# wanton violet is this the right channel to ask information about elder scroll online?

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wanton violet
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oh my, that will be a lot of data to assimilate. thank for the links šŸ˜„

eager remnant
dim reef
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I thought of a way to incorporate morrowind's spell system in the elder scrolls 6. So you know how skyrim has it where you get rid of your shield and sword and equip your spells, right? Well why not instead of making it cumbersome and clunky, we do like morrowind did where you press a separate button? Due to the controller having a smaller number than the keyboard, just make it where you tap the square button (whatever it is for xbox) twice?

barren pebble
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that might actually be pretty cool

spice whale
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mmm, don't know if it would work. Same key sheathes your weapons. Imagine some mudcrab rushing at you, you panic, you start tapping X button.. and seeing what, sword ready, magic ready, sword sheathed, what a mess

reef hedge
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i mean oblivion and eso are both on console and make that system work

dim reef
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What? It's like holding down the button to use your pip-boy but it turns on the flashlight.

reef hedge
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equipping a spell to a seperate key rather than occupying a hand slot, though in ESO its cause all spells are abilities

scarlet mango
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what about dual casting and ritual spells?

dim reef
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Wdym?

dim reef
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So skyrim's local map is 5000000000x better than fallout 4's local map but skyrim's world map is 5000000000x worse than 4's world map.

Talk about a fair trade.

magic tundra
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how do Fallout 4's maps look like?

dim reef
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The world map for 4 looks fine. The local map is small, cluttered and hard to read.

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i would say "give an example" but we can't post images in here eheh

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i really do talk like a dark souls character

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oh right

dim reef
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Todd howard vetoed eso's idea to explore the dwemer! Let's gooo!

gray mesa
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Understandable, they want to keep the mystery

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Also I feel like TES VI might explore them somewhat

dim reef
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There’s always going to be a bit of exploration on the mysterious stuff

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We already know a lot about the dwemer as it is so like. Eh

magic tundra
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some mysteries are more interesting as mysteries than as facts

gray mesa
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I mean ESO does explore some Dwemer stuff.
I think this specifically was about exploring their disappearance.

spice whale
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is this about that game informer interview? former ESO's loremaster mentioned that in 2016 actually, only he didn't say Todd's name

dim reef
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Most likely

weak sapphire
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Ok, now i need to relearn who people are...

distant star
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Lmao

eager remnant
weak sapphire
flint quail
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hiya

floral salmon
twin sentinel
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the worst thing is, I don't remember anyone's names from the old Bethesda forums.

narrow hull
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I've never been in the old forums lol

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Will be nice to be part of this new era

dim reef
weak sapphire
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I'm not quite as old as @eager remnant 'round these parts, but i'm probably getting close...

dim reef
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What happened in the original forums?

spice whale
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forums gave life to discord \o/ and died in the process, like Aedra

weak sapphire
# dim reef What happened in the original forums?

Depends on how far back you go. The original ones i was on? Everyone hating on Bethesda for ruining TES, and how Morrowind was the worst game ever made. There were even some threats made, which was frankly unacceptable and anyone who threatens Devs because they don't like the product deserves a special place in hell.

But, things largely mellowed out after a few months, and it became like any other Forum. people just talking about things they liked.

Then the software got discontinued, and they migrated onto a new platform, which we all used until that software got discontinued around 2015ish. And now they're sunsetting the last platform the switched to in favour of here.

dim reef
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The original ones i was on? Everyone hating on Bethesda for ruining TES, and how Morrowind was the worst game ever made. There were even some threats made, which was frankly unacceptable
oh...

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didn't know there was a time people hated morrowind but it makes sense

distant star
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Everybody hates the current game that came out, then the next game comes out and the one everyone was just hating on is suddenly the greatest one yet

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That’s how it’s worked this whole time for tes lmao

dim reef
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im aware. i like pokemon too and everyone acts the same with those games

distant star
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Believable

dim reef
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i guess because i never played morrowind or oblivion first and its been a whole dacade since a new game has come out i never saw that part

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morrowind came out when i was 3 >_>

weak sapphire
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I'll admit, while i didn't threaten anyone like some of the riff-raff back in the day, i hated Morrowind when it came out.

clever falcon
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Morrowind is an amazing game that's kind of painful to play, but in 2021 we have many tools to fix that part

dim reef
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im interested in this history

weak sapphire
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But, it grew on me over time, and the amount of care and love that went into it's worldbuilding is what eventually won me over. Then i was immensely disappointed with the total lack of any realworldbuilding in Oblivion

distant star
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I played it vanilla a month ago, I loved it when I figured out how to not get thrown to the ground by all the enemies

clever falcon
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OpenMW, move faster, fair magika regen, so on

dim reef
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i can't play morrowind too well but i really like the art style it has

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im just bad at the game

weak sapphire
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The shift from Daggerfall to Morrowind was the biggest in the franchise. Half the Skills were dropped, Leveling changed, character building significantly streamlined, and basic gameplay rebuilt from the ground up.

distant star
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I learnt how to get good with it lol, I searched up a way to get op, and when I figured out how to get op, I did get op and I enjoyed myself from there

dim reef
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i can play daggerfall a lot better than morrowind but i don't like the world building in it

clever falcon
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Morrowind gets a lot better when you stop trying to play as intended and start cheesing dregas volar with chameleon and paralize target at lv1 to get the daedric crescent fresh outta balmora

distant star
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^

weak sapphire
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I mean, that goes for most Bethesda games.

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They get better when you cheese the ever loving hell out of them

clever falcon
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You cant do that in any beth game from Oblivion on

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Thus why I hate leveled loot

dim reef
barren pebble
distant star
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There’s a easy to get daedric katana

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Well, Daedric weapon, i just choose the katana

clever falcon
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Also find a nice spot to train (I use a mage's guild usually) and juice your stats

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Conjure a skeleton, soul trap it, kill it with firebite

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Repeat forever

dim reef
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aww

clever falcon
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What

distant star
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Lmao

dim reef
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killjoy bot

clever falcon
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Okay, spam a cruddy enchanted item until it's empty and refill it with your infinite skeleton souls ro level enchanting

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Alternatively paralyze it and punch it to death to level illusion and unarmed

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Let a rat wail on you while casting hearth heal when you get low to level armor and resto

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Cheese is the name of the game

dim reef
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šŸ¤”

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we need a thinking emote for this server

magic tundra
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what's wrong with šŸ¤”

stoic fiber
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welp lol

magic tundra
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how many is too many?

stoic fiber
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I just wanted to show all my TES Thinks lol

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It was like 7

distant star
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1 of which are from Tel Mora

dim reef
magic tundra
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I didn't know the telvanni made emojis...

stoic fiber
dim reef
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YES

stoic fiber
dim reef
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look at those ears

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what are those

magic tundra
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you forgot :VehkatThink:

stoic fiber
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oh ofc

dim reef
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i don't like how he's looking at me

stoic fiber
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That famous occasion when Vivec transformed into a Khajiit

dim reef
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i don't have nitro so i can't use other server emotes

clever falcon
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Big tip: join Telvanni, theyre the best and teach you basic spells

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Mark and recall, demoralize, cure common disease

dim reef
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i hear both good and bad of telvanni

clever falcon
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They're the best

magic tundra
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Join Redoran, they'll be on top 200 years later

clever falcon
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Redoran has a kinda boring questline

magic tundra
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Would you like some Hackle-Lo?

clever falcon
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Hlaalu has a fun questline but who wants to be a Septim boot licker in Morrowind

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Telvanni based because they hate everyone

magic tundra
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I haven't played Hlaalu yet

clever falcon
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Literally, they have negative affinity with all other factions

magic tundra
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is "based" the opposite of "acidic"?

stoic fiber
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I thought it was the opposite of "exponential"

dim reef
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oh i thought we were talking about the meme based

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oh we are

clever falcon
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It's based on existing gamebryo architecture

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Clearly

dim reef
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my brain turned off for a second @-@

magic tundra
dim reef
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based kinda just means great

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it means you like it

distant star
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Its ok, I’m young and I had zero clue what it meant till a bit ago lol

dim reef
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i don't follow memes but a lot of my friends say it

dim reef
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In general i hope bethesda's game companions get improved but in regards to the elder scrolls, i feel like there are some things that should be changed.

Two main things that should be added is a companion "wheel" of sorts with basic commands (something similar to New vegas') but maybe with some other additions and tweaks.

And second thing is roles. I feel companions would be much more useful and not just as a pack mule if they had an actual viable role to play in combat. Every companion mostly does the same thing in skyrim and fallout 4, except with the exception of mages. But even then they still kind of end up rushing an enemy.

Roles should either be applied via game or you (though the game making a character a certain way is better imo). Stuff like "tanks" or "healers". Of course with some more creative flair. But i mainly feel like if a companion actually provided benefits then they'd be much more useful.

magic tundra
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less companions, but more fleshed out

weak sapphire
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Just, improved basic functionality first. On most things really.

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Bethesda has the weird position of being poised to make some of the best games in the industry, but always stop short of actually refining any of those ideas

distant star
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I’m just hoping they’ll be more like 4

clever falcon
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Tes has never been a companions rpg

dim reef
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Improving the companions system isn't going to make it a "companions rpg".

spice whale
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pretty sure Todd H. mentioned on some interview or other how he wants to improve on companions in the future.. And no, can't bring the source

barren pebble
clever falcon
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No, im just saying they shouldn't really be the plot focus

dim reef
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No one mentioned them being a plot focus.

clever falcon
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Shrug

barren pebble
clever falcon
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You dont need to be so aggressive dude, I misunderstood the conversation, my bad

rapid isle
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What happened to the champion star that increased resource gain from heavy attacks? Is that not getting added in Blackwood?

rapid isle
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Tenacity, that’s what it was

spice whale
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so uh, i'm watching some 'critical role', ESO blackwood special? could somebody tell me in one sentence who the heck are these people, please? i mean hosts, obvs, not the actors x) do they make video games videos or like D&D crap or what? fanks

magic tundra
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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I only heard them advertising about the ESO stream...

spice whale
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yeah, same. There's real live Laura Bailey btw, never seen her before

fallow rivet
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Critical Role is a D&D stream that has been going on weekly for the past several years. The DM and Players are voice actors that have been in a lot of different games and other media. It is probably the most watched D&D stream online.

spice whale
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ah, that makes sense

thorn hazel
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Voice actors who get together to play DnD. The ESO stream was sponsored by ZOS

fallow rivet
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Sometimes they do promotional one-shots like this. They did one for Doom Eternal too.

spice whale
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top quality D&D, like? good idea, i suppose

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https://youtu.be/E-YCzpYDIyA for those wondering

This episode is sponsored by Bethesda and ZeniMax Online Studios. Check out The Elder Scrolls Online: Blackwood right now at http://elderscrollsonline.com/buy

Game Master Matthew Mercer leads a group of restaurateurs on an adventure inspired by The Elder Scrolls Online: Blackwood!

This originally aired on Monday, May 24th on http://twitch.tv/c...

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never liked RPing with dice, myself

magic tundra
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I wouldn't mind doing it if I had someone to do it with

spice whale
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there's lots of people RPing in text chat in ESO. Whole guilds, some hardcore, some light. Plenty of opportunity

spare anchor
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I'm a little late, but most of the Critical Role cast are voice actors. Matt Mercer you've probably heard in many games and anime.

stoic fiber
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I heard some of em have voice acted for ESO too

spice whale
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a-ha, so the host is professional, too? was wondering why he's so tusking good x)

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checked other names. Nope, can't remember. 'Cept Laura, of cource <3

weak sapphire
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Mercer is almost bigger than Laura

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As in, more prolific

spice whale
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this is fantastic :') they just throw impovised jokes. those few D&Ds i vew watched were plaeyd by just players, some youtubers or somethings. These critical role guys are pros

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could i know this Mercer? what he's famous for

weak sapphire
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Ive been following them since the start

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McCree from Overwatch

spice whale
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nope

weak sapphire
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Leon from Resident Evil

spice whale
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nah ,Laura's been around since early 2000's Bloodrayne and such. Can't beat that

weak sapphire
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McCready from Fallpit 4

spice whale
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Should have started with MacReady *- * well, okay

weak sapphire
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He goes back to the english dub of Akira

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Then youve got Liam, who voiced Illidan, Death in Darksiders... uuuh

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Basically every brooding emo dude of the last decade

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Travis Willingham is Laura Bailey's husband, but i can't remember what he's done.

spice whale
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which one's that? eager to serve guy or sandwiches guy?

weak sapphire
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I don't think Travis or Liam are in this one based on the picture

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Haven't watched it yet

spice whale
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ah, gotcha

weak sapphire
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Looks like... Taliesin, dunno, Laura, Matt, dunno and Sam

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Sam Reigal is an absolute wild card. He's spent the last 2 years playing a middle aged female Halfling who spent half that time turned into a goblin on their main show

spice whale
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never liked such over-the-top chars. But then, never seen them played properly

weak sapphire
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Yeah it depends on the groul dynamic

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But, i personally really enjoy Critical Role

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Its my monday must-watch

spice whale
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think i'm getting it. Beginning to. These actors did VO for Blackwood \o/

weak sapphire
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They also did a oneshot for Doom Eternal

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And way way back, when they started, they had to contact Beth to get permission to use the TES soundtracks

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Because that's what Matt would play in the background during their home games.

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So, you know. Full Circle!

spice whale
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Matt like, Firor? don't think i follow

weak sapphire
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Matt Mercer. The long haired guy woth the beard

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He's their normal DM

spice whale
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ah, he's not just Mercer.. Right

weak sapphire
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Lol

dim reef
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You should be able to see the size of an enemy's soul under their name in parentheses.

clever falcon
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The critrole blackwood oneshot was like

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Kinda painful to watch

dim reef
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Was it?

weak sapphire
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They uuuuh... They are not the most familiar with the setting

clever falcon
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altmer with wow elf ears

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bosmer drinking ale in grahtwood

dim reef
dim reef
weak sapphire
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Eh, ESo basically just makes hte Green Pact a lifestyle choice anyway

dim reef
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Like long ears don’t hurt the world other than other high elves will laugh at you

clever falcon
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Stereotypical redguard fightee

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Stereotypical orc fighter

dim reef
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Oh...

clever falcon
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Insufferably annoying argonian

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Insufferably annoying altmer

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Grumpy dunmer

distant star
dim reef
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You’re tempting me to watch the one shot now

clever falcon
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If you like mediocre roleplay

clever falcon
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It's no CR

dim reef
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The ooze in eso was fun but the area it took place in was boring

weak sapphire
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Eeeeh... sort of. They heavily imply that the Spinners have to send you to the Ooze, it doesn't happen automatically

distant star
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Yeh, regardless I don’t remember the green pact being so minor in ESO

weak sapphire
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It is a major pet peeve for me

dim reef
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Green pact was massive in eso

distant star
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The green pact?

weak sapphire
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How ESo handled it, yeah

distant star
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I liked it myself, it never interested me till ESO lol

weak sapphire
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Way, way too tame for me. They treat it like being Vegan, rather that a divine compact that dictates Bosmeri behaviour

dim reef
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Pet peeve of mine is when people think all bosmer follow the green pact and think it follows outside valenwood

clever falcon
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Okay but the oneshot is in grahtwood

weak sapphire
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In order to be punished for violating it, you need a Spinner to know you broke the rules and curse you for it

clever falcon
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That's my issue here

dim reef
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Maybe the ale was imported

weak sapphire
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There is a lot more non-Bosmer presence in ESO in Grahtwood than there seemed to be in later centuries, so it could fit

clever falcon
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He mentioned a farmer.

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In grahtwood.

dim reef
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Mushroom Farmer (jk)

weak sapphire
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That one got me

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Also, i love Sam

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But man, that Argonian...

dim reef
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Remember in a dance of fire where there’s that gravy meat tea? That was fun

weak sapphire
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Yeah

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See, that's my problem with Bosmer in ESO...

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The tree-homes, the interpretive differences about the Pact... It's just so... Uninteresting

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But i'm an anthropologist by education, the notion of a culture developing with the inability to eat or even use the local plantlife is a fascinating concept to me.

twin sentinel
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pretty much all cultures in ESO are just explored superficially. although I think they added some nice stuff to argonians, maybe even khajiit

distant star
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Khajiit had a full chapter on them though

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They had alot of expansion on them, it was glorious

narrow hull
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Like, compare the base game argonian stuff to murkmire

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Murkmire is amazing

twin sentinel
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I wish they would overhaul the base game zones, but there's no money in it

narrow hull
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So like, your character would be constantly breaking the green pact :V

twin sentinel
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which you can do, if you want to roleplay. just eating your fallen enemies is difficult if you aren't a werewolf

narrow hull
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Though Clockwork City handled it better imo. The wood and clothing nodes are scraps left by other people and the only food in it is the tasteless paste

weak sapphire
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One of the NPC's in Davin's Watch sums up my complaints with Bows and Shields in ESO pretty well

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"Not so long ago, i would be teaching you to craft the best equipment out of Chitin and Bonemold. Now with the trade of the Pact, and the need for quick arms, we're working with... Wood. Like Nords."

narrow hull
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That's in Mournhold I believe

weak sapphire
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Maybe

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Been a loooong time since i ran those zones

spice whale
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ooh, and this game has also brought Laemon Tuttle to our world <3

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Talos is jesus reminds of something. Hah, Emil describes his take on the Dark Brotherhood as dark version of christian religion. Sithis is god, Night Mother is Mary, that stuff

dim reef
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If there’s a arena and blades channel. Then where’s the redguard and battlespire channel?

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(I’m not being serious btw)

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I don’t know a whole lot about battlespire but it would be good to learn more about it

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Ya know, you need to pay for it and steam doesn’t have it. Makes me lose motivation to wanna get it

spice whale
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ah! but for that you want to go GOG

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and if you buy any BEthesda game on GOG, they also give away working Arena and Daggerfall, win10-ready, like

dim reef
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I heard battlespire was supposed to be a dlc for daggerfall

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I could always just watch a lets play of battlespire :P

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I don’t really like playing games

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Oh god I tried playing legends but I cant understand card games at all šŸ˜‚

thorn hazel
dim reef
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Gotta use em weasel words :P

naive oriole
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Battlespire's got some very fun dialogue, you should give it a shot

dim reef
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I know your player character is very sassy in battlespire

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Like no matter the dialogue they’re gonna be passive aggressive

naive oriole
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Yep, very flavorful writing

dim reef
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Tbh at this state I don’t think I’m going to play tes 6 when it comes out. I’m not interested in playing anything anymore :P

naive oriole
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It happens. My interest in things often fluctuates

dim reef
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i just want to say i like how lgbt friendly the elder scrolls is.

distant star
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It’s cool, agreed

barren pebble
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Honey there is philosophy in my elder scrolls lore

What?

There is philosophy. In my elder scrolls lore.

flint quail
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get the waiter

barren pebble
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I'd like one elder scrolls lore with a side of philosophy to go please