#fallout-general-chat

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drifting kiln
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i mean they already do with the tv show, so. Bringing on board ex obsidian employees would still prove a massive help, its optional

crystal forge
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OMG banjo

drifting kiln
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the cut content especially is a gold mine for bethesda to dig through to REALLY understand the story that was wanting to be told

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As long as they have that and really understand it, they cant really fail a nv remake or sequel

rotund jolt
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Why do people get heated over the old fallout versus "new,"?

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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Can't it all be accepted as equally canon? I look at it like this. They're all canon, in every way. Like a piece of media that had a shift in an artistry department

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
rotund jolt
gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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Actual RPG elements?

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Maybe I've been playing too many old ones

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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The show is actually pretty consistent all things considered

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Holds up to rewatches and what I've seen in the games

gusty cairn
# rotund jolt Actual RPG elements?

I mean 4 does have a lot of rpg elements though I do agree it's a lot less than the other games new vegas is my favorite but so far atleast fallout 3 is the least good of the 3d trilogy

rotund jolt
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I've played them all. Even the worst; BOS

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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There's a 4th 3D fallout, but nobody remembers it. Or has a keen distaste for what Interplay created

rotund jolt
gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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The first two are in a word: Brutal

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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More brutal than the CIA torture that is Ninja Gaiden

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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I like the outcasts myself

gusty cairn
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So annoying how much Bethesda hates new vegas

rotund jolt
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I wouldn't say they hate it anymore. Especially given how much they've made from it

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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||I hear the Legion comes back||

gusty cairn
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I'm fine with ANY of the endings being canon BESIDES ceasers ncr house and yes man completely ok

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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It's gonna be ignored, or the House always wins

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Or Yes man turns into house... So many things

gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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Or. The Courier makes an appearance

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That'd be wild. Masked maniac with no lines

gusty cairn
gusty cairn
rotund jolt
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Or just some 200 year old jerky...

urban crag
rough swallow
quasi sentinel
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The hype around the show is going to resurge all the old debunked debates about Bethesda and Obsidian again. I just know it

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What next? Bethesda's engine is bad? That's a popular one

candid parcel
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"I tried to watch season 2 but The Ghoul clipped through the ground and despawned, softlocking the show"

cedar ferry
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Does anyone know what time the FO76 AMA is today? It says 1:00pm but i'm EST so wanted to make sure I'm paying attention at the correct time.

boreal musk
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Can we please have Fallout 5 😩

eager pagoda
gusty cairn
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The house ALWAYS wins

spice zenith
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Does anyone have a idea if fallout 5 will be released on Xbox next gen meaning the next Xbox

narrow perch
spice zenith
covert galleon
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Old world blues is the most tedious dlc ever. At least honest hearts has the benefit of being relatively quick

knotty herald
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anyone know how to get new vegas to stop crashing randomly?

drifting kiln
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Ive always find it so hilarious in offline fallout games, you can literally pause the game with the pip-boy.

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About to die?
Pull up the pip-boy. And heal.
You looking straight at your pip-boy like a watch: "yo bro hold on I gotta drink some water, and stab myself with this syringe."
The enemies pov: whatthe
You: "aight I'm good."

Fully healed while the enemy at half HP is just confused what just happened

valid moth
drifting kiln
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Fallout 5 will be released on the ps2, the Nintendo DS, and the Original Xbox

drifting kiln
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It does what it wants, when it wants, and the only way to counter it is by saving VERY often
Kill a few enemies? Save.
Discover a new location? Save.
Bought something or dropped something? Save.
Talked to someone? Save.

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Oh and be sure to do a double save, because corrupted saves exist, yay.

valid moth
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There's the unofficial patches and whatnot, but at a certain point, There Just Be Bugs

quasi sentinel
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According to Avellone they had enough time to make the game as well as get it ready for launch. They simply overestimated their capabilities and didn't bug test in time

buoyant spruce
quasi sentinel
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NVAC is outdated. I'd recommend just using Tick Fix instead

buoyant spruce
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I didnt know about that

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Maybe its the 4gb patch doing all the work

quasi sentinel
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Should just follow the VNV guide if it's your first time modding. It lists the latest stuff

drifting kiln
quasi sentinel
buoyant spruce
drifting kiln
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they had 18 months to make the game

quasi sentinel
drifting kiln
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Fallout 3 had four years.

quasi sentinel
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F3 was in active dev for 2 years

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Right after Oblivion shipped

drifting kiln
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well then it took 2 years for it to fully develop

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thats still 6 more months than new vegas had

quasi sentinel
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And it had remake every bit of asset from scratch alongside a new version of the engine.
NV had everything handed to it

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Obsidian themselves agreed to the dev time. They knew what they were getting into

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One of their lead devs claims they had enough time

drifting kiln
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As far as im aware, they agreed to the 3 year development time

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not the 1 and a half year dev time

quasi sentinel
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What? No. They specifically agreed to an 18 month dev time

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They essentially wanted a game to fill the time between 3 and Skyrim.

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So they asked Obsidian if they could do it and they agreed

drifting kiln
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straight up, all you need to google is this simple question. "was new vegas rushed"
and you get all the answers

quasi sentinel
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I have. Their lead dev contradicts your claim lol. It's untrue and has been debunked MULTIPLE times in the past

drifting kiln
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You got Forum posts, news sites, all saying the opposite, that it was rushed

quasi sentinel
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Forum posts ran by fans? People who weren't a part of the dev process?

drifting kiln
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thousands of them

quasi sentinel
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You really should do another round of research on the matter. And check official sources this time

drifting kiln
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thousands of the same posts saying the same thing is enough research

quasi sentinel
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Posts by whom?

drifting kiln
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its very safe to come to a conclusion at that point

quasi sentinel
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Have you checked if they even have a source?
Plenty of people claim Bethesda's engine is apparently bad as well. Doesn't make it true

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Same way plenty of people claim Bethesda cheated Obsidian out of a bonus which is again. Completely untrue.

drifting kiln
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bethesda's engine is bad though

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you can only be a hardcore fanboy if you think otherwise

drifting kiln
quasi sentinel
drifting kiln
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Its not untrue though if its bethesdas fault for not making sure that the game they are publishing is actually done, they couldve totally been the big boss and said "no, you say its good, but it could use a little more work"

quasi sentinel
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You can't do that at the end of the deadline.

drifting kiln
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therefore, bethesda enabled them to rush through it

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You can though. GTA did it.

quasi sentinel
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Bethesda did help out as much as they could.

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The short time resulted in cut content but what's there in the game launching in such a state was entirely on Obsidian

drifting kiln
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Rockstar said Fall 2025 is when gta 6 would release.
They then said that the game needed more work done.
Bethesda totally could have been Rockstar back then and did the same thing. They did as little as they could

quasi sentinel
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Rockstar doesn't have another game planned to release the same year

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They most certainly won't drop GTA 6 the same year as RDR3 or something.
That was the whole reason NV was in dev, to release before Skyrim

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You can't just delay that at the end of the deadline like that.

drifting kiln
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Again, thats bethesda's fault for poor planning

quasi sentinel
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Bethesda planned right. Obsidian fumbled

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Which one of their lead devs admit

drifting kiln
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Bethesda didn't plan right, because they didn't know what obsidian was actually making until the end

quasi sentinel
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They did know. They helped out along the way. But they were open in their approach and let Obsidian do what they wanted. Not bug testing on time was entirely on Obsidian

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They didn't keep a 24/7 watch on what they were doing.

drifting kiln
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as a Publisher, they handle quality control actually.

quasi sentinel
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Beyond Avellone, Sawyer the game director also said this

"We were working somewhere between forty and fifty hours a week, which is not too crazy ... It was a really tight schedule, but I don't think we had a point where we all thought 'this is crazy we can't do it.'"

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A publisher can't keep a 24/7 watch on things especially when the dev studio seemed this confident

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Consoles were another big hurdle

drifting kiln
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you dont count your chickens before they hatch

quasi sentinel
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Maybe Obsidian shouldn't have done that then.

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Although they can be given slack for the console versions. A lot of devs back then disliked working on console versions of their games. Valve famously hated the ps3

drifting kiln
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bethesda did that, literally you just said they did.
They had full confidence in the development studio because they were confident in themselves

quasi sentinel
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Bethesda trusted Obsidian. Obsidian trusted their own capabilities which wasn't enough. Who's at fault here then?

drifting kiln
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Bethesda, for not enforcing quality control

quasi sentinel
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Ah so Obsidian's at no fault for over estimating their own capabilities?

drifting kiln
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no obsidian is at fault, just less so than bethesda, because part of bethesda's job is to enforce quality control. They are publishing a game under their name, and so they want a game thats up to standards

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I am absolutely certain, if bethesda could go back in time, they'd delay the game

quasi sentinel
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They can't. The whole reason they wanted NV was because Skyrim was due to launch in 2011 and they wanted something Fallout related to follow up FO3 quick

drifting kiln
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They would have anyways. If rockstar can do it in the big 2025, Bethesda could have done it in the big 2010-2011

quasi sentinel
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Rockstar doesn't have another game coming out before their biggest launch

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Here's a retrospective they did for NV's development alongside Obsidian's devs, it has a lot of info about how it started
https://youtu.be/QSw3oNnklZM?si=jCvwxChR-Yz9rnwo

Between Bethesda Game Studio’s work on Fallout 3 and Fallout 4, a studio by the name of Obsidian Entertainment was tasked with their own version of Fallout. A huge Fallout fan, Josh Sawyer and the Obsidian team brought their own flavor to the Fallout universe with Fallout: New Vegas.

Official Site – https://fallout.com
Facebook – h...

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spice zenith
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If they are announcing that fallout 5 development is green lighting years before es6 has something changed is it it possible that they are trying to get it done because they have work to do or because they might be planning to release on next Xbox

daring trench
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Can someone help me find a fallout 4 YouTuber I used to watch I can’t remember his name

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Why is everything so inactive now VBThumbsDown

dry current
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What was his main type of content? Anything you can remember him doing?

queen pine
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Get New Vegas Tommorow on my pc can't wait

royal pier
dry current
daring trench
drifting kiln
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I just found something new in new Vegas. I found one of the repconn rockets. I wonder why it's not documented online

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Unless it's because of a mod I have installed

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If it's not because of a mod, the wiki is lazy

daring trench
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Bruh installing america rising 2 and all its patches and some other addons is hell on Xbox

daring trench
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I favourited all the things I needed and half of them didn’t appear in my favourites box so idk if I have all the stuff I originally wanted

quaint zealot
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Mods

daring trench
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I finally got it working though. I just had some other mods I wanted to use but forgot what they were

dry current
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Have yall seen the modular power armor mod in blade and sorcery? It's a work of art. To be able to put sci fi into a fantasy game, and make it completely accurate is amazing.

sacred ether
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now for a game of would you rather! would you rather A: Fallout 3 or B: Fallout new vegas gets remastered first? Personally I would have to say A: I hope both get remastered but fallout 3 was a very awesome introduction for me to fallout universe as a kid

edgy mantle
queen pine
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New Vegas was amazing so far 🥹

valid moth
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They can remaster F3 and then use that foundation for NV

frigid bloom
cold jackal
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I want to play nv and 3 so badly but it’s literally a lottery whether my save loads or not, 90% of the time it doesn’t load. When it does, it kicks me back out in 10 mins

gusty cairn
zinc scarab
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It sorta sucks that New Vegas has a companion mission that forces you to choose between the companion and the only consistent (convenient) source of energy weapons and ammo in the game.

quasi sentinel
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NV pretty much showers you with energy ammo everywhere no matter what so it's not a big deal

edgy mantle
quasi sentinel
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They also respawn so it's a limitless source to farm E cells

zinc scarab
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Yeah it’s never something that prevents you from finishing the game as an energy weapons specialist or anything it’s just highly inconvenient. Relatively speaking. It’s like the energy weapons shop. Farming enemies is less ideal even if it’s trivial.

quasi sentinel
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I've personally rarely ever used that place for energy gun ammo even when i don't do that quest.

gaunt kiln
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BoS sells energy weapon ammo, you can even get a regular supply of it for free if you do the BoS questline and it's incredibly plentiful in big MT

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Also fiend hunting is a good source of energy weapon ammo, plus you get the satisfaction of killing fiends. One dead fiend means a happier westside.

lost cliff
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Why is there no New Vegas channel

soft sphinx
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That said, you can still talk about New Vegas here or in #fallout-lore

snow merlin
# cold jackal I want to play nv and 3 so badly but it’s literally a lottery whether my save lo...

If you are on PC, and on Windiws 10 or 11, try trying all of the suggestions on the following website: https://appuals.com/make-fallout-3-work-windows-10/ The suggested fix number 4 is likely the most important, but do them all. Also, if the suggested compatibility mode does not work for you, try compatibility mode Windows 8. If none of the suggestions work, try asking Bethesda Help. Fallout NV does have a problem running well on latest high level PCs. That's likely owing to the game being Direct X 9, which newer high lever PC seem to have problems with, at least some of them do.

Appuals

Fallout 3 is an action role-playing open world game created by Bethesda and released to the world on multiple platforms back in 2008. One of the most

cold jackal
lost cliff
zinc scarab
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If they do end up releasing FO3 Remake/Remaster do you think they’ll revamp aim-down-sights and if so what will they do for the weapons modeled without iron sights?

snow merlin
# cold jackal Tried them, fix #4 fixed it initially but then it crashed again and went back to...

For fix #4, make sure you set the 2 additions to the .ini file to =1, in case you didn't. Also in the suggested Compatibility settings, set it to Windows 8, in case you didn't. If these ideas don't help, try running the game in Borderless Widowed mode. You may have to set your Resolution in the .ini file, if the resolution in-game setting doesn't hold for Windowed mode. Running as Administrator is correct. Don't give up yet. If the game works fairly well, you may still get some occasional lock ups, etc., but if you can tolerate those, just live with it. The infinite loading screen is a common issue. Just put up with it and try reloading until it works. It's not that big of a deal. Sometime loading a prior save, to the one you're trying to load, will load. After that, load the one you want. I do it from time-to-time.

tropic dock
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Does anyone know why Ian doesn't shoot during a fight and instead punches

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yes he has ammo

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from Fallout 1

cold jackal
snow merlin
# cold jackal Didn’t work unfortunately, I don’t mind crashing every so often but the infinite...

What "Didn’t work unfortunately?" If it's the infinite reloading screen, yeah that can be a problem? That was a problem even years ago when the game first came out. Try loading a save that loads, after which you may be able to load the save that didn't load. You load it from the save that loaded. That is, when the game is up and running, try loading the save that you originally wanted to load, from the one that is running. I have the game working from a hi-powered PC with a hi-level graphics card, though I have to contend with an occasional lockup, etc., but it's playable.

cold jackal
snow merlin
ornate surge
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Ok so I know this is some dumb long shot but I made a cocktail an i want to got bethesda's approval to name it the The Lucky 38. Its 1 Oz of knob creek smoked maple bourbon, and 1 1/4 Oz of Dry Champagne and a squeeze of lemon. I doubt this goes anywhere but im kinda like why not rn.

tame gate
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U know what’d be cool (totally random), if Bethesda/zenimax made actual comics under a fake “hubris comics” company of all their characters. (Grognak, silver shroud, mistress of mystery, unstoppables, etc.) and do like weekly’s or monthly’s for a limited run

crystal forge
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I’m on New Vegas rn. I’m a bit of a noob 😅

dry berry
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Real Silver Shroud Comics would be pretty cool

crystal forge
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Can any New Vegas gamers help me a bit

visual marlin
crystal forge
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Nvm im good

quasi sentinel
urban crag
woven lance
crystal forge
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Played some new Vegas. It was fun :3

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I ||defeated the Powder Gangers who was tryna attack Goodsprings||! I started with a stick of dynamite and then used my shotgun for the rest of em.

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I plan to be a big iron guy tho

gaunt kiln
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I hope fallout 5 portrays a world like New Vegas did of a wasteland slowly being introduced to a developed nation

quaint zealot
gaunt kiln
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We already had a Midwest game

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We've yet to have a southern game

quaint zealot
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But for fallout 5 we Need to wait the 2030 and before there Is Elders scrolls 6 (2027)

quaint zealot
gaunt kiln
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Yup it's canon

quaint zealot
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Or Better, in the Texan Commonwealth

gaunt kiln
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Nah

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Mexico would be interesting but not Texas

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New Orleans would still be more interesting if it was as lush and vibrant as west Virginia

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We need a vibrant location to get away from the dead look of places like d.c. and the Commonwealth

tribal rampart
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I'm still holding out for a PNW fallout setting.

gaunt kiln
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Pnw would be cool, especially in the mountain region of Washington

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Dense forests and abandoned mines

stable nest
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Ronto

zinc scarab
valid moth
patent geyser
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So, In NV there are escorts and what not, I wonder why we don’t see any of that in the east coast.

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Slinging ass for cash seems VERY profitable in The Mojave.

lone crypt
patent geyser
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Although, I do feel like they dumbed the franchise down a bit and took out more risqué elements.

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The Black Widow perk is honestly my favorite.

quasi sentinel
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Same goes for 76. Although Atlantic City should have them.

patent geyser
gaunt kiln
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But yea the reason NV does it is to show hey, this isn't good, in anyway

patent geyser
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Personally, I see it as realistic, it’s the end of the world, all bets are off and you have to do whatever you can to survive

gaunt kiln
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also the whole NCR citizens with suitcases of caps have the money to blow whereas most people in the commonwealth are struggling to survive

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Basically the NCR is a cash cow, the republic is rich as all get out to show the baby boomers level of wealth that they could go out and waste a ton of money but still be fine

patent geyser
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Almost more than the legion.

gaunt kiln
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Like look at the commonwealth. People are mostly small time farmers, there's few rich folk that can afford decent clothes, poverty is the norm in the commonwealth

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This is why people turn to raiding as well as to support their families and protect them, especially when the minutemen fell so hard it left the entire region unprotected from various hostile forces

patent geyser
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Say what you will about House, but the man makes an extremely good point.

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If you want to see the fate of democracy, look out the window.

gaunt kiln
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No he doesn't lol Vegas is 100% reliant on the NCR, without the NCR it does not survive

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NCR cuts food off, they're done. NCR closes borders the casinos get no income. NCR are the ones who know how to operate and work the dam, House does not

patent geyser
gaunt kiln
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No, he specifically was not running the Strip until his system detected the NCR. He was in stasis

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Vegas is entirely reliant on the Dam for power, without the NCR's scientists and engineers it does not run, NCR rebuilt the whole thing

patent geyser
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I dunno, House seems like he’d be able to improve the world technologically

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Also, he gave me a sweet ass apartment, thats all the reason I need to join him.

gaunt kiln
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I do not consider the suite you get to be impressive lol

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it's kind of a trashhole, not even a single window.

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also he is a roboticist specifically, not a bioengineer, not a nuclear physicist, not a hydroelectric expert. He doesn't have the knowledge to actually fix and maintain the dam as opposed to the NCR, we also are responsible for getting the resources to actually fortify and fix wear and tear

patent geyser
patent geyser
gaunt kiln
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You mean the ones he was also responsible for lol he directly worked with the shadow government, the shadow government that used his OS, that he built specific gear for, his company designed the pip-boy specifically for vault-tec who was being controlled by the shadow government

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House literally can not exist without a democratic state backing him, as evidence by the fact Vegas is entirely reliant on the NCR for everything

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the Mojave can't support large scale agriculture, the casinos rely on NCR money to stay afloat, all resources come from NCR caravans and businesses

patent geyser
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Well, there’s always the Truce ending.

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The yes man and legion endings are never on the table

gaunt kiln
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Hell, look at the casinos, each one openly shows discontent towards House. Omertas are working for the Legion, Benny almost successfully launched a coup, the white glove are more than happy to break the no cannibalism agreement

patent geyser
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Friggin’ Benny.

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Checkered Suit wearing prick

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Definitely weren’t working with the legion after I was done with them

gaunt kiln
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If it wasn't for the legion he would've successfully dethroned House

patent geyser
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The only REAL good factions are the FOA and The Kings

gaunt kiln
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Followers taught the Khans how to make drugs who then sold them to the fiends

gaunt kiln
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Followers still being alive is funny because their ending in 1 is specifically they all died, the only ending where they survive is unavailable due to a bug that has never been fixed

patent geyser
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Honestly, the followers are the closest thing to a Red Cross the Mojave has.

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That’s why I don’t mind them.

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Unlike the powder gangers.

gaunt kiln
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Tbf when the NCR tried to get the king's support to give aid to the residents of freeside their messenger was beaten to near death by Pacer because the King is so detached from actually leading the Kings

gaunt kiln
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and it was specifically the King's support to give aid to the non-NCR people of freeside

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and yea, he had a "oh well what can you do" attitude to it when it was literally the NCR reaching out to HELP Freeside

patent geyser
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Freeside feels underused sometimes

gaunt kiln
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the game is trying so hard to say "The NCR is BAD >:C" and then it's constantly "here are the 20 ways the NCR is actually responsible for an improvement of quality of life in the Mojave"

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it's like to a comedic level how they keep giving the NCR plus sides

patent geyser
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My only issue is that the old system clearly don’t work.

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Also, Taxes, to hell with that, it’s the post apocalypse.

gaunt kiln
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as opposed to faux roman larpers and a man who is running a city that has no industry besides gambling that's dependent on the one thriving democracy in the region?

patent geyser
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Well this is a pickle.

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You’ve made several good point for sure.

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But The House Always Wins I’m afraid, besides, Cheeser and the NCR didn’t give me no free room

gaunt kiln
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I mean, the NCR has the outpost but I'm pretty sure all the containers there aren't safe storage

patent geyser
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How am I supposed to leave my missile launcher there and hope it’ll still BE there when I get back?

heavy lotus
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Isn't the dissapearing time like 5 minutes?

thorn pebble
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Hello

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Btw need to ask, anyone here know about the name Oxhorn?

amber plinth
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roflmao?

thorn pebble
lone crypt
thorn pebble
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My Favourite videos are his New vegas lore.

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Can't get enough of them

lone crypt
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I mainly watch his Fallout 4 videos. One of my favorites was when he explored the underwater areas in Fallout 4. I thought that was pretty fascinating.

quasi sentinel
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I used to watch him, but have grown out of it especially over the wild assumptions he tries pushing as real lore

gaunt kiln
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Yea that's basically what I've heard, eventually he just pushes his headcanons in as lore

patent geyser
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I love Old World Blues SO much.

hard remnant
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Old World Blues is “wacky fallout” done right imo

patent geyser
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It’s wacky and I love it.

hard remnant
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Evil Toaster my beloved

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Sadly, I’m one of those weirdos who likes Dead Money 😔😔

tribal rampart
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Need to do that before Season 2 drops

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The easter egg hunt is real

hard remnant
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I have a sinking feeling about Season 2 and what it will do to New Vegas tbh

Honest hearts is lovely to look at though, very colourful

gaunt kiln
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I do not have faith in the show doing new Vegas justice but it'll sell because of the that factor

hard remnant
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Honestly Season 1 had me a little annoyed cause it messed up event timelines and some things made no sense (Like The Master somehow magically missing an entire ass vault)

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Maybe it's just me, i don't really like Bethesda Fallout in general and have felt that way since F3 came out :/

gaunt kiln
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Oh god do not get me started on that lol

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I've explained that to death so many times

hard remnant
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Same XD, or how apparently the "fall" of something doesn't mean it's when it fell only "when it started to fall"

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Like gee wasn't aware "Fall of Rome" didn't mean when the Visigoths sacked it only when it started to fall XD

gaunt kiln
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I'm kinda in the camp of New Vegas being the only one I like, I can't do turn base isometrics anymore so fallout 1, 2 and tactics kinda just bore me

hard remnant
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IsoPeeGees are my comfort genre tbh, though i would love to see a Tactics remake by the XCom devs

gaunt kiln
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Fallout 4 is fun but Boston is an unoptimized mess and settlements kill saves

hard remnant
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Fallout 4 is my most hated game of all time, it just removed way too much and added so little XD

gaunt kiln
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Understandable lol

hard remnant
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like when i play an RPG i wanna play MY character, not someone elses prewritten one :3

gaunt kiln
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Starfield is pretty good in that regard, learned a lot of mistakes from Skyrim and 4

hard remnant
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Sadly Starfield itself isn't very good XD, But one of my biggest gripes with Modern Bethesda is that they're absolutely deathly afraid of you not doing something on a first playthrough, noticed this with 4 especially

gaunt kiln
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Fair enough

hard remnant
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I guess i just miss being severely punished for actions taken in game XD

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iirc in F1 if you killed kids the game became almost impossible to beat

gaunt kiln
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I think that was 2

hard remnant
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You might be right

gaunt kiln
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I know one of them has a perk for it, 2 is also the edgier of the games

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So it definitely wouldn't surprise me

hard remnant
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I admit i liked F1's Black Comedy more than F2's refrence overload (the wart on an otherwise incredible game)

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I burst out laughing the first time the infobox explained how much damage i took in grusome detail only to say "you take no damage" after

gaunt kiln
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Yea 1 did a better job with the references, 2 went overkill in a lot of ways that are like of the times for rpgs that's kinda interesting

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Like being able to take a certain job was hilarious

hard remnant
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Oh gosh i think i know what you're talking about

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Something that's very unique to F1 is the Bleakness, which i SORELY miss

gaunt kiln
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I actually prefer the more developed wasteland, I think it's a more fun thing because it takes away the expectations that people have of post-apoc media

hard remnant
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F2/NV's Post-Post Apocalpic setting?, yeah that's cool af

gaunt kiln
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Ye that's one of the reasons why I love NV

hard remnant
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Yeah that stuff is partly why i love west coast stuff over anything Bethesda's done tbh (even though i was a little salty NCR bases didn't have Adobe styled buildings)

gaunt kiln
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Back to work for me, have a good one

hard remnant
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you too, lovely to have a chinwag about old fallout ❤️

patent geyser
thorn pebble
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Well I just love listen to fallout lore and story telling on my down time.

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And probably other Bethesda type games like skyrim

quasi sentinel
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It's better to read them directly from the source. The wiki isn't a 100% accurate either but it lists all It's sources below so you can check which is real and which is an assumption

thorn pebble
quasi sentinel
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The wiki also sometimes lists the bible as a source so remember. If it's not in any official material it's not canon

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The Bible was just a collection of ideas the devs had that Mr. Avellone combined into a bunch of readables. They don't define canon but Bethesda does often picks ideas from it, so only what they've taken is canon

gaunt kiln
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I recommend the independent fallout wiki and not the fandom one

gaunt kiln
# patent geyser That DLC is distilled masochism

See that's the fun part. Dead money sucks in such a way it's great. It's a terrible silent hill-like experience filled with horrible enemies that you can just negate at the start just by talking to Dog

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Everything is terrible but it works in the funniest way

And the message of an old guy is a great way to move gold bars is master class writing

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I love how terrible dead money is because unlike honest hearts or lonesome road it's a fun terrible

quasi sentinel
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I personally think DM is the best dlc both gameplay and story wise while HH is the worst

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LR is terrible storywise and great gameplay wise.
OWB is fine on both ends

patent geyser
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Joshua Graham is the most BASED BGS character there is.

patent geyser
quasi sentinel
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BGS didn't write Joshua. Obsidian did

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He's the only good part about HH. Everything else is terrible

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Oh and Randall Clarke. He's great too.

patent geyser
quasi sentinel
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There's plenty of characters in the other games that are just as well written as him

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Character writing is thankfully one of Bethesda's strong suits. They do fumble at times but they've written a lot of great characters

patent geyser
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I like Cait.

edgy mantle
dry berry
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Zion National Park is a Top 5 Fallout location

hard remnant
hard remnant
quasi sentinel
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I mean morally Grey doesn't automatically make a character good.

hard remnant
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Hence the definition

quasi sentinel
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Emil co wrote Nick Valentine who's easily one of the best characters Bethesda has ever written

hard remnant
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Eh the whole Gumshoe thing kinda started to grate me a bit

quasi sentinel
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Well being a detective is just a small part of everything he has to offer. Under all that noir aesthetic is a grounded guy who's been through hell and back for no personal gain but to remain a good person.

hard remnant
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I'm aware.

it's just that part of him that grated me and made me not like him as much.

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I don't think i liked any of the Companions besides Dogmeat in F4

quasi sentinel
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They're some of my personal favorite companions in any game. Up there with Bioware's companions

hard remnant
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I mean sure?, the only one i found kinda of cool was the Blade dude

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Like i said earlier, i REALLY don't like Fallout 4 on a deep level, so i'm not the best for it

gaunt kiln
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My opinion is more games need dead money like expansions

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Suddenly being forced into a hellish survival horror area ruled, it changed how the gameplayed

quasi sentinel
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Technically it's only survival if you don't know what you're doing. I was running around with 1k .308 rounds and a fully upgraded auto rifle

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No ghost person stood a chance

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I also love how DM just completely breaks NV's economy

gaunt kiln
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Yea it's hilarious

hard remnant
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I mean 10 LUCK does that anyway XD

gaunt kiln
#

10 luck and getting Sierra Madre's weekly chip delivery

hard remnant
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make a Beeline towards the medicine stick afterwards

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and the two-step goodbye for Veronica ❤️

gaunt kiln
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Nah nah two step is for me

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I love punching legion with it

hard remnant
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What's the Legion?, do you mean Target Practice?

gaunt kiln
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I hate Rome but I hate Roman larpers more

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Trying to emulate Rome, absolutely disgusting

hard remnant
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It's like Cesar only read the "Rise" part of the "Rise & Fall of the Roman Empire"

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Which actually is an interesting concept for a Post-Post Nuclear faction

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like some guy reads about something he only knows half about and repeats the mistakes of it

gaunt kiln
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Sawyer said Caesar basically took out all the things he saw as weak or useless which is like all the things that actually made Rome a power house

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Also he canonically read Hegel so that itself is a crime

hard remnant
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I don't think Hegel knew what Hegel was yapping about

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Caesar is literally a Redditor omg

edgy mantle
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Anyone who thinks that Caesar’s Legion is a legitimate contender for “best potential leader of the Mojave” scares me

hard remnant
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I love surrounding him in his seat of power and stabbing him

gaunt kiln
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I love punching his dumb face in

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two-step goodbye his guards, unequip, bare hands

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Caesar is everything I hate in a antagonist

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Authoritarian, self-justifying, ROMAN

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Caesar's Legion 🤝 Garlean Empire
Being so terrible that it's fun to hate them

heavy lotus
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I like destroying all his plans and then he gets all pissy at each one I told him I did

patent geyser
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The writers of Old World Blues were ON something with this one, Dala is….

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Interesting to say the least.

ionic scaffold
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hello do i still need to downgrade fallout 4

urban crag
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Keep it appropriate please chat

patent geyser
urban crag
agile rapids
heavy lotus
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I'm so excited for hhn, I plan to wear a headband or bandana with an NCR flag patch on it

gaunt kiln
edgy mantle
heavy lotus
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Oof, would still wanna try it

edgy mantle
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I guess it does have Strontium-90 in it though VB_Ghoul_Feral

heavy lotus
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Damn

kind jasper
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Disclaimer. I have used chatgpt in the following message but it's just for refining and layout of the message

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My idea for fallout 5

Setting: Alaska - a harsh, frozen frontier on the edge of America.

Timeline: Begins in the days leading up to the Great War and continues into the immediate aftermath.

Tone: Nuclear winter dominates the land, burying the world in ice and ash.

Premise: The protagonist never makes it to a Vault. Instead, they're forced to endure the bombs firsthand, surviving in the frozen wasteland as society collapses around them.

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You guys are welcome to build on that idea or share your own idea on what you want fallout 5 to be like

sudden nova
#

Fallout, New Ve.. Orleans!

heavy lotus
edgy mantle
candid parcel
heavy lotus
#

Fallout Newest Orleans
Fallout New New Orleans
-# yes I'm stealing Futurama joke

unreal shard
sudden nova
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I can practically taste the radioactive gumbo already 🤤Ghoul

sudden nova
sudden nova
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Frankly, having control down in the Gulf could be strategic for whatever faction gains control of it. Perhaps the Louisiana location could bring in connections with people from other countries as well, like the French.

mild rose
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there would be a lot of cool locales like the abandoned six flags and tons of crashed cruise ships

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obviously, all those fancy st charles mansions and the street car lines

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swamp boat tours, big cemetaries that go on for city blocks

sudden nova
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Nuclear hauntings and voodoo, Jean Lafitte piracy, honey island swamp sasquatch, lol

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I'd love to see a fallout-voodoo like weapon, or nuclear louisiana hot sauce made from the finest peppers on Avery Island. 🥵🔥

sudden nova
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Tony Chachere's, all I need to survive any nuclear wasteland

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Find some lovely pet friends at the Audubon Zoo/Aquarium.

mild rose
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gator mounts

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mutated giant nutria

sudden nova
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Get me a boat and go out on the lake Pontchartrain and Mississippi River. Catch me one of them colossal-sized blue cats. They probably be fishing for us tho in Fallout, being even bigger than they already are, like mini-whales

cold jackal
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How on earth do I kill the guards inside the weather monitoring station at the fort

tribal rampart
#

What are you asking for exactly?

vestal citrus
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Am I the only one who thinks saints row could probably fit in fallout? Like do a fallout New Orleans mod and include the purple and gold saints paint? Would be dope for armor, power armor and weapons. Pimp out your vault with saints flair.

Plus If I'm being honest I could totally see a "Professor Genki's Super Ethical Reality Climax" paint for power armor.

vestal citrus
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PG-SERC may be best for raiders though. What with the "murder time fun time" slogan.

lost remnant
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hi everyone have a very nice day to all, and bethesda congratulations for the last patch is awesome the performance, i only just enjoy this awesome game f76

patent geyser
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@cunning sluice tell me, House, Yes Man or NCR Ending?

cunning sluice
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I did House the first time i ran NV, Yes Man every time there after, total 7 full runs in total

patent geyser
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He’s Fallout’s Victor Aiza.

cunning sluice
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Yeah, in the end you're most likely right given his brain for calculation even without all of the extra calculating machines he's hooked up to. That said, he's still an autocrat who opted to murder folks who didn't warrant it. I trust my decision making more than i trust his, so Yes Man it is

patent geyser
cunning sluice
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I dunno, i never really played the part as much as i played myself in that situation, so yeah, i trust my decision making more. And i ain't gonna kill The Kings cause who doesn't love those lovable clowns and hound dogs

patent geyser
cunning sluice
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There was a long running joke that the House ending was the prequel to Other Worlds which i thought was hilarious, but i just can't roll with the "we gonna get rid of everyone" approach

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So it really just depends on how bad you want a space program = )

patent geyser
#

Honestly, I see House genuinely wants to help humanity, The NCR seem stuck in the ways of the past, the legion even further in the past and who gives a damn about the BOS, House’s quote “if you want to see the fate of democracy, look out the window” has stuck with me.

cunning sluice
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I think you can make a legit case for tossing the NCR and especially The Legion, cause all slavers should get the bullet.

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That said, the local scene and population, that i have issues with. I'm not saying give them seats at the table, but i can't see wiping folks out when they're not trying to do the same to you.

patent geyser
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Would wipe out the legion in a heartbeat

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Honestly, there’s not much that would get me to NOT trust house.

cunning sluice
patent geyser
#

I can genuinely see HOW they would be formed

heavy lotus
#

Lmao

chilly gazelle
heavy lotus
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Hi

chilly gazelle
#

Gm ameownodfast
I should be raiding but oblivion remastered has been too good lately. 😵‍💫

hard remnant
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Played F3 again via TTW and my gosh this story and world is cheeks, even at the time it released I thought the tone was entirely off for a Fallout game

patent geyser
tribal rampart
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FO3 main quest is definitely mid, but I absolutely love the world.

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Except when I crash when leaving the metro stations😭

quasi sentinel
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I felt the same about FO2. I still love the game but man the writing and tone is a complete mess

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In fact the goofy-ness is what makes FO2 unique for me. It's a mess but it's a damn funny mess. Kinda like ES: Oblivion

hard remnant
patent geyser
hard remnant
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I half jokingly refer to NV as Fallout 3 tbh

patent geyser
hard remnant
tepid forge
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hi I'm just about to start getting into fallout games I've got no4 and 76 what do people think I should start in? do they line up story wise or are they two complete separate games?

misty parcel
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They're two complete separate games. Fallout 4 lines up with Fallout 3 story wise, but 76 is a prequel. I would start with FO4 because it's a good introduction to the series, and 76 being an MMO is very different from the other games.

tepid forge
boreal warren
#

Does anyone here have the pip-boy from the tv series? I want it but it’s pretty pricy. Im curious if anyone regrets getting it or if they thought it was worth it.

vast swift
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I’m trying to log in and it’s not sending my email the link anyone know how to fix this

heavy lotus
boreal warren
heavy lotus
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Then go for it

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It's basically that with some other features

boreal warren
# heavy lotus It's basically that with some other features

Did they ever update it so you could play your own music through it? I saw a video on YouTube of someone using an fm transmitter so they could play music from their phone to the pipboy through the same radio station but that was 9 months ago. Maybe there’s an easier way now.

heavy lotus
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No update that I know of so far

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The new update I downloaded was the one with the ability to change the color

silent token
#

The Enclave Reformist side is the best faction

solid current
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Where do I add suggestions, wishes, and ideas?

heavy lotus
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There's like 3 or 4 different channels

gaunt kiln
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Enclave reformists aka ditching your clothes for wasteland attire and hiding you're enclave

heavy lotus
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Hello people of the wastes (I would put nuclear morning gif but there's not enough chatter)

heavy lotus
#

Anyone else excited to go to HHN?

heavy lotus
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I wanna do all caps because I got my NCR patches, now need bandana

patent geyser
gaunt kiln
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That's wild because all their bases get blown up in nuclear fire

patent geyser
#

Truly unfortunate, but no building is perfect.

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And sometimes THINGS happen

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Sometimes a group of Noble Savages and a drug addled Ex-Vault Dweller blow their stuff up.

heavy lotus
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The oil rig LITERALLY had a self destruct button

patent geyser
#

Can’t blame the enclave for that.

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Might have been there BEFORE the war.

rare surge
#

Is it just me but I just noticed there isn't a fallout NV general chat?

quasi sentinel
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NV wasn't made by BGS, this server only has dedicated channels for games made by them

patent geyser
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Which is funny because it’s the most BASED fallout game of all time.

azure summit
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Bethesda moderators, it may be a good idea to have a pinned message that says this is where FNV discussion belongs.

lone furnace
azure summit
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thank you! Y'all are the best! 🙂

gaunt kiln
#

Thinking about it I kinda wish we still had the religion around the vault dweller being a Messiah figure from 2

lone furnace
#

Fallout: New Vegas is not a Bethesda Game Studios game, but is an Obsidian game produced by Bethesda. This is why you may not see a channel for it here. If you would like to discuss it however, you can do so here or in #fallout-lore.

rancid fractal
#

anyone here who’s been to the halloween horror nights fallout themed events? They seem good and i plan on going but is there anything for more diehard fans?

heavy lotus
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Hello wastelanders

severe jasper
heavy lotus
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Sounds like I'll have fun!

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I'm so excited to go

tender nest
#

Has anyone played FO New Vegas? If so, how is it?

polar spire
scarlet granite
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If it is about Fallout: New Vegas the game itself, general is fine. If it is about the lore, then #fallout-lore would be better.

polar spire
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Oh whoops. I didn't read CouchTato's post carefully. They said "do so here or in #fallout-lore."

scarlet granite
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No worries

patent geyser
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Very Serious?

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Beyond Phenomenal.

crystal forge
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I might uhh.. do a melee build in new vegas

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I keep seeing videos about it, so it must be strong

heavy lotus
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Any build works if you make it work

pulsar merlin
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it good

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witch end are going for

gaunt kiln
pulsar merlin
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hey guys i glitch the elder in fallout new vegas he won't let move if i ask him for power armor and he stuck in the entrance of the bunker. idk where to find enclave

heavy lotus
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You gotta get Archade Gannon as a companion and just hang out with him for long enough and he'll mention them n stuff then you can do missions for them iirc

gaunt kiln
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It's less hang out and more go to a specific location with him, iirc there was some dumb mechanic where it has to be your first time going to the location for the dialogue to trigger so you could just accidentally miss out on companion stories

heavy lotus
#

Ah ok also that's kinda dumb

tender nest
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I’m gonna have to get New Vegas. It is on sale right now.

paper ether
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Just make sure to save often and with new save files, FNV has a nasty habbit of corrupting them.

quasi sentinel
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I made the terrible mistake of going there on my first play through with a ripper and the NCR power armour

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And 3 stimpaks

pulsar merlin
zinc scarab
tender nest
pulsar merlin
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lol

pulsar merlin
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so i might pissed everyone but clearing quarry junction was easy and it really ez way to get liked by ncr and i beat with only using all american and missile launcher with only 2 rockets and no power armor

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pov young deathcall when i see them

arctic herald
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Is this the place I can share my all fallout ideas?

pulsar merlin
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how do i unglitch the elder from fallout new vegas he stuck in entrain of the bunker

arctic herald
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It's just promotion ideas

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A promotion idea.

pulsar merlin
#

mk

edgy mantle
pulsar merlin
#

ik

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but i just got in the valut

pulsar merlin
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and it was too easy

dry current
pulsar merlin
pulsar merlin
#

i fount some cool stuff

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is it worth it

dry current
pulsar merlin
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ok

pulsar merlin
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thx man

mellow loom
#

Anyone know if there's an unofficial Fallout Meetup at LA Comic Con this year?

dry current
#

I really like the limited edition pins, but my shipping cost is so high!

#

It went from 12.80 to 26.75!!

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Gee whillikers, man!

charred osprey
#

Hello i'm new here but I ran into a problem. Long ago I bought fallout new Vegas maybe 5 years back or more. I played it and took a break. Now after I downloaded it I can't play it. It shows me a screen that it is configuring my resolution but when I press play, it closes and reopens the startup screen. after a couple tries it just closes it self without opening the game. Then in search of why is this happening I pressed "store page" and it showed that the game is not available in my region. Yet I have played it before and in total have ~67h on the game. Then I find that I have to buy the game again but now its a "(PCR)" version. My account's region is set to Lithuania. So did I just get my game pulled from me? Or what is happening and what can I do? (instead of buying a new copy of the game I already have). P.S. My friend has the same problem.

pulsar merlin
#

hnmm

charred osprey
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PC

willow birch
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Did you upgrade OS's from the last play? Win 10/11 have new rules in place for regional restrictions on SW. The PCR is a Russian specific version, likely due to region control for software regulations. Try setting to an EU region.

pulsar merlin
bleak flicker
tame cave
rich zinc
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Hello 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻

gaunt kiln
#

It's really sad modders have to say "AI was not used"

crystal forge
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Well that’s where life is at.

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It’s getting hard to distinguish

gaunt kiln
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Can't wait for the AI crash

pulsar merlin
cold jackal
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Could switching launcher help with technical issues on new vegas?

modest mango
#

Im trying to find good Fallout structures to build in Minecraft, i've built the Lucky38 and am looking for some other builds from other fallout or same fallout games that would be worth building. What are some good ones?

dry berry
#

Rivet City

modest mango
open jasper
vestal citrus
#

Am I the only one who could see a car or taxi power armor design being a thing? I don't mean some racing checkers or yellow paintjob. No. I mean actually power armor built from chunks of cars found across the wasteland. I can easily see the Corvega Atomic-V8 headlights on the shoulders. Perhaps parts from the Zip as limbs and the glass top of a fusion flea for the helmet. Or at least do it like the roll cage of the raider power armor. I feel this could be one heck of a design. Especially if done right.

dry berry
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Seems like something the Atom Cats would do

primal nimbus
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Could have The NCR been successful if it was ran better give them a military like BoS and maybe a police force similar to the MM
They can trade and Sell goods if needed to get stuff they can't make themselves.

Making NCR the closet thing to a normal life before the bombs dropped possible

quasi sentinel
#

They already have most of that

gaunt kiln
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NCR was winning the BoS war and was the only force that actually stopped the Legion's advancements. MM are also not a police force, they are a mutual defense militia.

sudden nova
#

I just mixed Nuka-Cola with Louisiana hot sauce and almost died. It was so good! Nuka N'awlins Sauce on my chicken wings.

primal nimbus
gaunt kiln
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Ok but the MM aren't meant to be police forces, they're meant to be mutual aid and defense forces that work independent of the settlements but still aids them.

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If they were a police force they would become a force that is exerting control and forcing settlements to do what they say which goes against their founding ethos

primal nimbus
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But wasnt their government and military full of corruption being one of the main reasons they failed. BoS feel like they would be likely to take any corruption from anyone even the government.

primal nimbus
quasi sentinel
#

Both sides dealt a lot of damage to each other.

gaunt kiln
#

I think given the NCR can expand and fight on an entirely new front shows the NCR doing better. Like the entire presence in the Mojave is building infrastructure, setting up bases and actively keeping another nation from expanding says otherwise. There's also nothing really supporting the idea of a stalemate. Brotherhood are in hiding meanwhile we have NCR leadership that successfully fought multiple tours against the brotherhood

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If there's something in New Vegas saying there's a stalemate it's not on the fallout wiki page, what is on the page is the NCR winning numerous battles to the point the brotherhood had to self destruct several bunkers

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As well as Sawyer saying so many veterans died in the war the brotherhood had to start putting inexperienced recruits into leadership positions which the NCR doesn't have to do

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And yes this is the Mojave chapter but consider the Mojave chapter wasn't involved in the war until the NCR entered the mojave, so I doubt it's better in the west

quasi sentinel
#

And the NCR itself took heavy losses fighting the war. Their entire economy was hit the ramifications of which are still being felt in NV

gaunt kiln
#

New Vegas portrays a different story

quasi sentinel
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It doesn't. The NCR is stretched thin and just barely won the first battle of hoover dam and their economy is continuing to cause problems.
Their blind expansion caused way more problems.
The whole reason they can't just take over Vegas is because they'll lose to an offensive launched by the Legion.

#

We don't have as much info on the exact state of the war back west but it continues after NV as per the ending slide

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But the little we do know is that both sides took heavy losses and neither came out a winner

paper ether
#

Yeah, we lack any meaningful details

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We know the Brotherhood lost six bunkers, and that they're mostly in hiding now, but we also know that their members are more skilled than their NCR counterparts.

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And the fact they sent Lyons east with a chapter (which they kept supplying for a time) and sent Elijah out with a chapter just because he annoyed the other Elders, does not paint a picture of them "losing." Otherwise they'd keep as many troops as possible in their bunkers, not send them out.

quasi sentinel
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Yeah. And i initially mentioned a stalemate because they say the BoS went into hiding while the ending slide says hostilities continued so it likely began again after the events of NV.
In between that time, there's no mention of anything else

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Meaning both sides just stopped

paper ether
#

I think the Brotherhood is largely wagint a guerrilla war. Using their scouts to find targets, striking with their knights, and then falling back to their bunkers before the NCR can really respond.

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They lack the numbers for conventional warfare.

quasi sentinel
#

There's also this piece of dialogue i forgor about

Alexander: "We used to. But every caravan carrying them was getting ambushed and wiped out. By someone sophisticated enough to know which was which. We think it was the Brotherhood of Steel - those crazies always go hard for energy weapons. But the NCR would rather pretend they killed all of them."

paper ether
#

IIRC Veronica also makes reference to her parents being KIA while fighting the NCR somewhere.

quasi sentinel
#

That could've happened much before tbf

gaunt kiln
#

You should read what Boone actually says instead of the "stretched thin" misquotation the community has pushed for a decade, Boone says the NCR expanded too quickly leaving a lot of infrastructure new California sees that deals with threats not being built in the Mojave

quasi sentinel
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They were also stretched thin because of supply issues.
Joshua mentions it.

"Love the sinner, hate the sin. With Caesar, it's often very difficult to see through all of that sin to the person inside. I can say that we were both lucky that NCR's supply lines and land routes north of Mojave Outpost were destroyed before the Battle of Hoover Dam. Something bad happened near Death Valley, at a place called the Divide. NCR couldn't cut across anymore and it slowed down their reinforcements. Terrible storms ripped entire companies apart before they even got to Nevada soil."

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Ah damn it. Can't even link game dialogue without the censor warning

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Anyway, the arms merchant at 188 post who was at the dam during the war also says it was a mess

Arms merchant: "Staff sergeant, Third Platoon, Bravo Company. I was at the Dam when the Legion hit us, three years back. That was a ----storm, and don't let anybody tell you different. The brass try to play it down, but most of them were back at McCarran."

gaunt kiln
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As pointed out this is because they didn't create the infrastructure they usually have in New California, you are pushing something the game isn't saying

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The legion is also a massive fighting force, saying the first battle is showing "they're stretched thin" is like saying the allied nations were stretched thin in WW2, they weren't, the legion is just a rival that saw even worse casualties in the battle for Hoover dam

quasi sentinel
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The game directly says they had supply and reinforcement issues because of the divide incident irrespective of infrastructures, I'm not pushing anything.

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The Legion also isn't as massive a force as the NCR. The Legate says just the mojave campaign alone pooled too much of their resources meanwhile the NCR's Mojave force was in a weakened state.
They have more people back west.

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But the issue still remains that we have very little info on the state of things back west to really conclude much

gaunt kiln
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We have enough that the BoS and NCR are only in a stalemate because the BoS is in hiding and fight guerrilla wars which is the point of the Mojave chapter. The idea that there is active fighting like there is in the NCR-Legion war isn't shown, meanwhile we have NCR leadership like Cassandra Moore having served four successful tours against the brotherhood, the brotherhood losing entire bunkers, the NCR having an entire division of troops that wears salvaged power armor. The implication is shown numerous times, the BoS are losing. Even Sawyer stated that the Brotherhood doesn't have the manpower and this is a chapter that didn't see the main theatre of the war, specifically saying the issue with the brotherhood leadership being new recruits because the brotherhood is so insular that they can't effectively replace troops which isn't an issue the NCR has. https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_Developer_Statements/Factions#Joshua_Sawyer:_Brotherhood_War,_2011_April_28

Fallout Wiki

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This is something the forces in the west would also see

quasi sentinel
# gaunt kiln We have enough that the BoS and NCR are only in a stalemate because the BoS is i...

If the NCR really did win why are they actively ignoring caravan attacks that the gun runners claim to be BoS ambushes?
If anything they claim the NCR is purposefully ignoring them because their main priority now is the legion.

Sawyer's claim about the soldiers being in experienced was specifically in reference to the Mojave chapter and there is no indication this is what every chapter looks like.

Even House in game says that platoons of NCR soldiers have died trying to destroy BoS bunkers when the Courier successfully kills them.

The NCR may have salvaged power armor but at the same time their economy is actively falling apart with no proper alternative which is further hurting their operations.

gaunt kiln
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I said winning, not have won

quasi sentinel
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There is no solid info to claim either side won or lost. All we know is the fighting is still going on by the end of NV

gaunt kiln
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As I've pointed out the BoS as an organization is insular so the problems this one chapter has would be problems other chapters would have

quasi sentinel
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That's again an assumption. No further proof. Sawyer specifically said that in a forum where someone talked about the Mojave paladins being weak

gaunt kiln
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Being in a stalemate is an assumption lol the game does more to show the BoS are losing than the idea the NCR are fighting two big wars on two fronts

quasi sentinel
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If the BoS really are inexperienced House would not claim destroying one bunker as such a big feat that supposedly takes platoons upon platoons of ncr troops

quasi sentinel
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We legit have no solid info on what's going on back west

gaunt kiln
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With the leading one being the BoS is on the losing side, yea

quasi sentinel
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I don't think we'll agree on this. Better agree to disagree cos' this is going in circles

vestal citrus
# dry berry Seems like something the Atom Cats would do

No doubt but I feel it would also be something raiders with building prowess could do. Or as a power armor skin. Plus if this is done they could slap on the traditional American yellow taxi cab paint job on it and call that some free atoms if Bethesda made this into a power armor suit. Can't tell me it wouldn't fit incredibly well on excavator suits. As I imagine others too much like me dub them the power taxi's.

vestal citrus
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Am I the only one who thinks the brotherhood of steel granted they actually learned, used and made the missile power armor skins real cannon suits in fallout that that would become the go to for their power armor?

sudden nova
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Speaking of that. That would be cool. All kinds of different Nuka-Cola mixes that give you different temporary abilities. Kinda like magic, but not, more absurd, more radioactive Nuka. Fallout Tifa

vestal citrus
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Think anyone's gonna make a Fallout TTRPG fallout 76 expansion to include the union, hell cat, excavator and ultracite suits?

gaunt kiln
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More free states

cold jackal
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What new Vegas dlc should I buy first?

paper ether
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Old World Blues or Honest Hearts imo.

dry berry
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The dlc are meant to be played in launch order

quasi sentinel
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Storywise you should go OWB > DM > LR

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HH is the easiest and disconnected from the other 3 so you can do that whenever you want

cold jackal
dry berry
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Yeah which would have you start with Dead Money and end with Lonesome Road

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But as the fella above you said Honest Hearts is pretty disconnected from the overarching story going on on the other three so it's the easiest to jump into (it's my personal favorite from NV as well)

forest acorn
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anyone know when the next fallout steam sale is? specifically wondering about f4 goty

misty parcel
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They usually do a sale around Fallout Day, on October 23

quasi sentinel
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Steam Autumn Sale's about to begin shortly i think. Wait a couple more days

wispy moss
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where should i build my slaughterhouse in fallout 4

hard niche
dry berry
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I think Croup Manor would be applicable if it's in the business of slaughtering people

wispy moss
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Animals mostly but i could setup a people farm

steep yarrow
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they made the elder scrolls area and daggerfall free, do you think theyll ever make Fallout 1 and 2 free? or no since its wasnt originally Bethesdas

ancient pond
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I want more beach boys songs in fallout
They have to include them if they're gonna ever release the game where it takes place somewhere in california

primal nimbus
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Fallout 2 takes place in some of California but that's a totally different game than what we have now

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Also New Vegas

lone furnace
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I still maintain that New Orleans/Louisiana/swamp Fallout would be fun too. A bunch of blues and ragtime stuff for music would be rad.

primal nimbus
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Imagine hearing California Girls while in a waste land lol

lone furnace
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I have Wouldn't It Be Nice stuck in my head now lol

primal nimbus
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California Dreamin

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Maybe something a little old school/morden with
California Love

mellow loom
dry berry
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We shoulda got some elvis songs on the radio

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Johnny Cash would be cool

primal nimbus
dry berry
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It's not the Cash cover unfortunately

primal nimbus
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A boy named Sue lol

dry berry
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I think going further than the 60s might be too much

lone furnace
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Jovi is a bit late, that's 80's I think

primal nimbus
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Need more 60s

dry berry
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70s and 80s rock would work on something like Raider Radio especially stuff like Kiss and Mettalica

primal nimbus
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The Who
The Animals
Bob Dylan
And some others

dry berry
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I feel like the clash between normal radio stations playing the regular stuff we are used to hearing from the era and the raiders or tough wastelander faction playing music like rock and metal from the 70s and 80s could be really entertaining

dry berry
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Something like that

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I don't really know the time frame for Greaser Culture think it's from late 50s to early 70s

primal nimbus
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Get some Queen or something

lone furnace
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Hear me out though- Fallout: New Orleans- Cab Callaway, Miles Davis, Etta James

dry berry
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I think we ought to have some classic country on the radio stations 76 gave us a little and I like that it's more varied than what we've had in the past

primal nimbus
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Eagles
Bruce Springsteen
Are some mid late 70s I believe

dry berry
primal nimbus
dry berry
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NV gave us a taste of some of that with Marty Robbins

primal nimbus
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Or 30s 40s might work

lone furnace
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I wouldn't mind some Patsy Cline

dry berry
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Big Irons not even his best work I really liked El Paso (perhaps this could be used in a future Texas game)

primal nimbus
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I always wanted a Fallout Texas

dry berry
primal nimbus
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Fallout Texas with rad Horses

lone furnace
dry berry
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Ghoul Reenactors come to mind

dry berry
dry berry
dry berry
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Texas is a big state to cover in a game with a ton of referential stuff to pull from the Easter eggs and references are vast

lone furnace
primal nimbus
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Imgaine being able to ride a Rad Horse

lone furnace
primal nimbus
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Fallout Texas let's us be a cowboy ghoul

dry berry
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I'm thinking that a Fallout Texas would have a ton of Feral RadHogs that ravage the wastes in huge packs

lone furnace
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obvi

dry berry
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Mutant Rattlesnakes

primal nimbus
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Rad Rattlesnakes

lone furnace
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snake moccasins that give you a protection against venom

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because venom's a thing

dry berry
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I'm not well versed in Texas Flora and Fauna so i can't create a specific unique mutated creature in my head that would be unique for the state

lone furnace
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hmmm mutated bluebonnets and deer

dry berry
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Texas has Pronghorns right? That could be an interesting replacement for Radstags

lone furnace
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Yeah the mutated longhorns forgot about that

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there are random NPCs that will offer you sweet tea

dry berry
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Maybe if the engine could handle it giant radioactive Tornados could be a thing like the kind Cassidy talks about in Fallout 2

lone furnace
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They have wayyy too much sugar so you get thirsty faster but buffs your AP

dry berry
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Dust Storms instead of Radstorms

lone furnace
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Raddust storms

dry berry
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The plant is escaping me but wasn't there a plant that was slowly taking over Texas back the late 1800s

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Think it was Tumbleweeds but I'm not sure

primal nimbus
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Texas probably would have a faction like MM but of Cowboys/Rangers

dry berry
sudden nova
# primal nimbus Fallout Texas with rad Horses

Idk why, but first thing I thought of was that scene in the Django, where they're all on their horses complaining about not being able to see a damn thing with those pillow cases over the heads and someone's wife not cutting the eye holes right, lol.

cloud rapids
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I been playing 76

polar spire
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Did it ever occur to you guys that maybe what if Fallouts 1 and 2 were remade using the Baldur's Gate 3 mechanics and method?

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I know Todd did say about not being able to recreate Fallouts 1 and 2 using the usual Creation Engine, but what if it could be remade using the BG3 engine or the similar method and gameplay mechanics of it?

quasi sentinel
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He didn't say they can't be recreated. He said they'd lose their charm if remade using modern techniques

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The only way to preserve them in a hypothetical remake would be to not change anything at all but that'd just be a waste.
Which is why they said they want to keep them playable so people can experience them as they were originally meant to be

lone crypt
dry berry
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I don't think the Classics should be touched at all they're fine as they are

quasi sentinel
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At best they could get remasters imo. Same game but higher resolution with bug fixes

heavy lotus
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Tried Nuka-cola Victory and Quantum from Jones Soda, very yummy

lone furnace
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Friendly reminder that if you have any questions about a ban or a warning, we ask that you reach out to us via @muted cobalt

lilac moss
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Not that server

lone furnace
# lilac moss Not that server

If it isn't from this server, we stilll ask that it is not discussed here. You are free to privately message each other. If it is an in-game ban, you will need to reach out to the support team for that game.

frigid creek
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Quick question for anyone that might know

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Is the background audio for the new season on 76 a copyrighted track. I streamed 76 and showed the new season for like 30 seconds and got a claim

primal nimbus
tropic abyss
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and that's not even touching on how if FO1 and 2 gameplay was remade too it would suck

quasi sentinel
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That's the problem. The only way a remake would work is if it doesn't change anything but at that point why not just play the original.
The best way would be a remaster, same game but high quality sprites, textures, audio etc.

lilac moss
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Better. The original trilogy dont need a remake

snow merlin
tribal rampart
lilac moss
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It will never happen and I like that, they shouldn't remake the original trilogy.

faint marsh
tribal rampart
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Maybe one day we'll get lucky and whoever replaces Todd when he leaves will see the potential in the remakes.

lilac moss
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Unnecesary remakes

uneven ingot
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I think there's value in remakes. For a lot of people (me included), 4 was their first Fallout game and the tones of that are significantly different from NV and earlier. A lot of newer fans haven't really experienced the classic wasteland vibes and aren't interested in played the older titles due to outdated gameplay or graphics

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I for one would welcome a 1 & 2 remake with things like updated sprites, bugfixes, and mod support. As long as they keep 99% of gameplay and story faithful to the originals.

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I'm really enjoying exploring the Ohio expansion in 76 because they modeled the map after the desolate wasteland feeling of 3 & NV

quasi sentinel
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They can't have every place be unaffected by the bombs. Some of them have to be in worse conditions

uneven ingot
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I've barely touched the story (I'm saving that for the official release), but as I understand it there's a lore reason why Ohio is basically a desert

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It wasn't a nuclear bomb, at least for the most part

quasi sentinel
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Whatever the reason may be they can't have every place be mostly unaffected like Vegas, Boston or WV.
Some of them have to be more devastated looking

uneven ingot
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Boston was pretty devasted in my opinion

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As least as much as it could while still preserving the dense urban city vibes

quasi sentinel
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It wasn't. The nukes didn't hit the central city

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One landed in Cambridge and that's as closest as it got

uneven ingot
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there can only be so many impact sites so there are going to be way more places that didn't get directly hit than ones that did

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most of the decay we see in game is the result of 200+ years of time

quasi sentinel
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And for that we need balance. For 76 especially we have about 3 expansions that weren't set in devastated ruins and 3 (including Ohio) that is being set in devastated areas

lilac moss
quasi sentinel
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I'd wager future expansions after Ohio won't be as damaged as it

uneven ingot
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Mostly hardware and gameplay related

uneven ingot
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I think it's just better if more people get to experience the classic lore and gameplay, even if they have to swallow a less than perfect remake

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It just has to be done faithfully and competently, which is a tall order for Bethesda

lilac moss
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I still agree with Todd about not doing unnecessary remakes. If people don't play classic games, it's not a problem.

Remakes are overrated

lone crypt
# uneven ingot Mostly hardware and gameplay related

"Gameplay related" is where we run into issues. A lot of players are going to view gameplay changes as violating the spirit of the games. Graphics are one thing, but gameplay is a large part of what makes those games unique.

loud ruin
uneven ingot
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A lot of nostalgic players will look back on the gameplay of the originals with rose tinted glasses when they were objectively buggy and janky to operate as hell

loud ruin
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I made the mistake of getting new vegas on ps3 it was hell after a while

uneven ingot
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There has to be a good balance of preserving the classic feel and chaos of the isometric crpg system, and updating it to be easier to use for modern players

tropic abyss
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and why I think something like Project Arroyo (think that's it's name) will suck

primal nimbus
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If they do anything at all with Fallout 1 and 2 it would be port it to consoles and thats not happening

uneven ingot
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I’d be happy with just an updated control scheme which seems necessary for a console port.

Baldur’s gate 3 is extremely playable on controller. Which is amazing considering the amount of choices and micromanagement you can do in that game (especially if you play Wizard)

dense frigate
tropic abyss
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port it onto consoles, yeah it won't be as fun as on PC maybe but still

raw comet
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My opinion on bethesda as of late is very low. 76 and Starfield does not help. And I dislike the quality control they held in thier products. I also think the mod store is a slipery slope that is better kept free and open. Similar to steam or how nexus was.

tribal rampart
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I'm patiently waiting for any news on a Fallout 3 remake. It's one of my favorite games, and it 100% deserves the Oblivion Remastered treatment.

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As someone else said, the new expansion coming to 76 has heavy FO3 vibes, and I'm loving it.

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But the FO1 & 2 remakes would sell well, I think.

gaunt hinge
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Something going on with Nuka-Cola license?
Saw this at Target the other day, it looks so weird as a Nuka-Cola machine but without Nuka-Cola and just the Fallout logo on it. Reminds me of the menu at Halloween Horror Nights, where none of the drinks at the Fallout booth say "Nuka" only Dark and Quantum.
Just kind of weird, maybe has something to do with Jones Cola or something?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1319002442045591663/1424051402593796096/image.png?ex=68e28ab7&is=68e13937&hm=b6ac3f788ce4cf1a2dbe3b06497ea5eb8e649010e372e39364a5e18e8517ec9f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1109&height=837

primal nimbus
grand pawn
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ywjPS3Fxrk0 this should be one of the songs in the next Fallout game.

The Diamonds' 1959 novelty song, "Batman, Wolfman, Frankenstein, or Dracula." Accompanied by clips from The Crawling Hand, The Ape, Attack of the 50ft Woman, Attack of the Puppet People, The Monster from Green Hell, Dracula, The Wolf Man, Ghost of Frankenstein, Cat Women of the Moon, Cry of the Werewolf, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Attack of...

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modest mango
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How come fallout 3 can run on my pc but not new vegas? It doesn't make any sense, arent they made with the same engine?

lilac moss
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FO:3 and nv are make in the same engine

modest mango
lilac moss
modest mango
lilac moss
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Your game doesn't play music on the Pip Boy's radio, but it does play music on radios like the Strip's speaker?

modest mango
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mainly im just confused, my pc which has new gen parts manages to run fo3 fine but I need like a bunch of stability mods for fnv

quasi sentinel
quasi sentinel
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All in all the game is essentially held together by duct tape and prayers. Hence the more frequent crashing

tame gate
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anyone going to NYCC 2025? if so what are your cosplays? and also any booths/exhibitors/exclusives related to fallout? i couldnt find anything so far. ik last year someone had a booth set up with all fallout merch in it, with saloon doors and new vegas/wasteland theme. but idk what the booth/owners name is so idk what to search up to see if they will be here this year

snow merlin
# modest mango then how come fallout 3 doesnt crash but nv does? Is there some kind of underlyi...

The following website provides suggestions to make Fallout 3 work on Windows 10, but the suggestions also work on Windows 11 and on Fallout NV. When you get to the suggestion to select a compatibility mode, select Windows 8. Suggestion number 4 is important, so make sure you do that one. https://appuals.com/make-fallout-3-work-windows-10/

Appuals

Fallout 3 is an action role-playing open world game created by Bethesda and released to the world on multiple platforms back in 2008. One of the most

fallow kelp
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I was browsing through some content on my Xbox home page and came across someone's video, where I noticed a comment mentioning something about Nuka Cola Kingdom. Has anyone ever heard of that or even know what it is? It's been some time since I've played Fallout 4, so maybe I'm missing something?

lone crypt
dapper cedar
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Bethesda remake the og fallouts so we can play them please

lilac moss
dapper cedar
lilac moss
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I'd rather not watch any unnecessary remakes of the pre-Bethesda trilogy. Remakes are overrated.

quasi sentinel
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They were specifically designed with mnk in mind

fallow kelp
fallow kelp
eternal forum
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Guys. What if they announce a New Vegas remake that launches right around season 2?

eternal forum
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Fallout New Vegas. Granted FO3 is a hundred times more likely. But givent the connection to season 2 of the show.

lilac moss
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What remake?

fallow kelp
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I havent heard anything about a New Vegas remake??

lilac moss
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Nothing remake gonna be release

eternal forum
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All I am saying is, they announced and released the Oblivion remake in less than a week. There have been whispers of a FO3 remake. But what if they do New Vegas instead?

eternal forum
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What would you call it? Its not a remaster as they completely 'remade' the visuals.

lilac moss
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Remaster: Taking the same game and changing the entire graphics engine, making minor changes while maintaining 900% of the original game.

Remake: Remade the entire game again and taking the liberty of rewriting aspects of the story and much more.

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And bethesda release a remaster. Not a remake

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There will be no remake of Fallout 3 or NV.

tribal rampart
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It's definitely possible, but until they announce anything I'm happy with the OG versions.

dapper cedar
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I'd buy a New Vegas and Fallout 3 remaster day 1.

primal nimbus
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Maybe remake it for console and add Mod support like Fallout 4 has

outer peak
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Hey you no look like Ghoul how come?

cold jackal
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Is the festus questline bugged? I started the quest, deposited a few caps a couple times and now I can’t talk to him and I can walk through him, like the model isn’t there

raw comet
# tribal rampart But the FO1 & 2 remakes would sell well, I think.

I'd be honestly for playing fallout 1 2 and tactics in the style of fallout 3 or new vegas.

The problem is, do I trust bethesda no to censor, remove, make tame, or replace entirely the legends and canonicity of these games, to make retcons, or shove a paid mod store in there? The answer is absolutely not.

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I trust them to make a hook for a new questline content and then pay wall more content behind it like in starfield for bounties.

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No I'm far more excited for that doom mod project that recreates fallout game in that fps engine.

lilac moss
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Remakes are overrated. Thanks to god bethesda never gonna make remake of the classic trilogy

raw comet
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Now if they give the treatment that they did for fallout 3 that they did for oblivian remake? Sure. Will I also be annoyed that they change male and female into body 1 and 2 and highlight nexus totally non bias again. Yeah.

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But overall, oblivion remake remaster is still mod able. And for the most part sane people still believe your free to mod a game to your wishes.

lilac moss
raw comet
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This is relatively new to me? Do we call this a remaster?

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If so that's what I meant.

lilac moss
raw comet
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Ah okay, the oblivian remaster is relatively new experience for me.

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but yeah, and this is a time were players trust remakes and remasters over new ips. Not because there is never new interesting additions, like expedition 33 and baulders gate 3 for examples for rpgs. A new ip and sequal respectively. Seeing others and myself in agreement that bethesda is not trusted even though they hold the rights for the ip is telling

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I can understand why they shift to a monitize mod model. Even though I don't agree with it at all.

tribal rampart
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Seeing the classics from a new perspective is just exciting to me.

lilac moss
tribal rampart
paper ether
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IIRC I've heard of a fanmade project to remake the classics in 3D a couple weeks ago, looked promising.

tribal rampart
quasi sentinel
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There is a 2 fan remake still around in 4's engine that's still being worked on. There was a 1 fan remake once but it got canceled

tribal rampart
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It's definitely not an easy project.

winter bone
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I think I can take on a deathclaw

dry current
primal nimbus
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When a Jet addicted old lady can than anyone can

heavy lotus
winter bone
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Ya all think i meant fighting one when i said i can take one ?

heavy lotus
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Didn't you say 100?

winter bone
twilit parrot
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why are they teasing something on social media when its not gonna be anything again?

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they should be more engaged with community expectations

twilit parrot
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they posted something on insta

tight delta
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Anyone know if Plans from Mischief Night continue to drop after you learn it?

vestal citrus
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I've heard there's a fallout table top game out there. Consider taking a page or two from Bionicle and play as some crab riding robot melee combatant.

The suggestions inspired off of the Bionicle character Jaller. A tribal fire robot who's the leader of the regions guards. Riding along with his pal Takua in search of the 7th toa or guardian robot. The toa of light.

lone furnace
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So they aren't really announcing a huge game reveal, if that's what you are expecting.

brisk topaz
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No, but we can always hope cant we?

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At least i do, a new game or a remaster of an existing one would be nice. FO76 havent appelaed to me after the beta tests and launch fiasco. Yeah i know its better, but i'm just done with the game, and play either FO4 or Stalker 2 if i want a radioactive wasteland experience

twilit parrot
lone furnace
bold yew
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Hello, new here! Just wanted to say that I hope to god we get a remake of fallout 3 and HOPEFULLY new Vegas

lilac moss
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Please no

pulsar merlin
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hey guys would you consdir fallout london cannon

pulsar merlin
lilac moss
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Mods = no canon

pulsar merlin
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ugh fine wtever

drowsy reef
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Question, why no new Vegas chat :(

lilac moss
drowsy reef
lone furnace
lilac moss
drowsy reef
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What should my next fallout game be once I’m done with new Vegas?

lone crypt
cinder parcel
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Hello!! I'm curious if anyone here does animation? Last year I released a song based on Fallout with an animated video. I just wrote the follow up, but my original animator is no longer available. Please message me if you are interested!!

novel apex
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Hi guys

ivory heron
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Happy birthday to fallout 1 VBThumbsUp vaultspin

drowsy reef
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question abt new vegas. is it safe to keep items in a sack outside goodsprings general store or will they get reset eventually

fair venture
lilac moss
heavy lotus
spiral valley
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No new Vegas chat :[

lone crypt
spiral valley
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I know but it’s sad it’s not here regardless

hardy chasm
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saw a concept on Twitter for a Fallout in Texas. Would be interesting if the Alamo was the main city.

uneven ingot
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Houston would be a great place to expand Fallout’s space lore

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We know next to nothing about the moon except there was a battle there

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Against who? Idk

lone furnace
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Oh wait, you mean the city would just be the Alamo, like how Diamond City is in Fallout 4 or The Pitt in 3

dry berry
clear tangle
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does anyone know what type of hat the enclave officer hat is in fo3

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i really want to get or make a replica for some cosplays

dry berry
uneven ingot
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Just finished running the 4th session of my Fallout inspired D&D campaign

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My super mutant player died trying to shield the rest of the party from a self-destructing Mr. Handy

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They weren’t even supposed to fight that Mr. Handy. It was just part of a harmless random encounter

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But the party’s scavenger (ie rogue) kept antagonizing it

upper zodiac
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why isnt there a fallout-76 chat?

upper zodiac
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oh thanks i think i just hid it

astral ocean
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What's a chicago

dry current
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I wonder if I could teach my dawg to play fallout

cold jackal
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Is dead money actually that bad? The story sounds great but the gameplay sounds terrible. I want to work my way through the dlcs, I’ve done honest hearts so far

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And which dlc should I try next

quasi sentinel
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Nah it's pretty great. I love it's gameplay

tribal rampart
gaunt kiln
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imo it's OWB > DM > HH > LR

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Dead Money is very good and tries something new for the game to make an interesting experience

mellow loom
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so wheres the hype party for fallout day