#modding-general

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earnest bloom
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Has anyone else encountered an issue with downloading certain mods?

Basically it doesn't let some people start the download for Haze 2 after my recent update to it. 4 people so far have contacted me to let me know they keep getting the message "Operation Cannot be Completed" instantly upon trying to install it. Yet others have had no trouble with it at all.

Happened with another mod I updated recently as well, though I've only heard from one player about the other mod.

Anyway, a random discord user told me they've encountered this problem before. I've never heard of it happening before recently though.

When people have ghost space, sure. But not like this before recently. Not right after they click Download. Tried reuploading the mod a couple times to no avail. The players tried hard resetting but that didn't help either.

Worried that even if this isn't a brand new issue, it may have been exacerbated in some way with recent server maintenance perhaps? I don't know, tbh. Very tedious though.

gentle owl
real sphinx
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From my understanding, "Operation Cannot be Completed" tends to occur in two situations:

  1. Issue with sign in to Bethesda.net, although if there are general connectivity issues this may persist.

  2. Mod is recently released or updated, and still propagating across the system.

Quitting completely and restarting sometimes fixes things, as does waiting half an hour. If it continues, folks should check for additional troubleshooting on help.bethesda.net

earnest bloom
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Whether this particular issue is new or existing, the frequency with which it occurs has clearly gone up drastically in recent days and is a problem.

Anyway, just reporting. Didn't think there'd be a fix or solution of course.

spice vale
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I have noticed bethesda.net is not working 100% correctly. Some mods' download numbers are being deleted and/or not recorded. The 'sort by' categories are not accurate (as in Most Popular - Daily will display mods that were just released with only a few downloads, for example). The ratings are not updating unless the individual mod page is opened.

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And seeing certain things like this

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grizzled torrent
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Having issues updating mods on both the Xbox and PS4 side. I'm not pushing them through the CK. Just updating the descriptions with new contact information. I'm getting could not save data errors. Other mods have updated but not these: https://bethesda.net/en/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/4070904 and https://bethesda.net/en/mods/fallout4/mod-detail/4070967

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mental oar
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Anyone happen to know of an issue that could cause Skyrim SE to be missing sounds (Weapon swinging, weapon impacts, footsteps...etc) while modded? My install is already on the main drive, so no it is not that.

grizzled torrent
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Is your install on an advanced format drive? AFAIK advanced formatting is an issue because of the data structure of the sectors. That, however, is the extent of anything I know about it and could be mistaken. Hopefully someone else has more info for you.

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Other than that: sounds require collision to be set up properly and if you're using a mod that doesn't have that set up then you're not going to hear anything.

real sphinx
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@spice vale @gentle owl could you link me a few mods where numbers went down, to aid in investigating this?

gentle owl
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https://bethesda.net/en/mods/skyrim/mod-detail/4273200 the numbers a few days ago for downloads was around 500,https://bethesda.net/en/mods/skyrim/mod-detail/4274115 was around 50/60 downloads then went back to 1,https://bethesda.net/en/mods/skyrim/mod-detail/4274117 it was around 50 or 60 aswell but it went to around 10 downloads

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spice vale
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Yesterday

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real sphinx
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Thanks!

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I've attached both of your reports to the ongoing investigation.

formal onyx
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@real sphinx I don't have a basis for my claim as I haven't tracked it before, but I think I've experienced a mod download number leak.

Also, my mods with 1 or 2 downloads and 0 favorites per day started to appear in the "Most Favorited, Daily, PlayStation 4" results. Boiled Crab Pack https://bethesda.net/en/mods/skyrim/mod-detail/3470624

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Wait, uh, when I scroll through the results of "Most Favorited, Daily, PlayStation 4", some mods appear repeatedly. Am I the only one seeing duplicate results?

noble sluice
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The Skyrim Creation Club Patch just got an update and when I went to update it, the mod said it couldn’t be downloaded and uninstalled itself. Then tried to reinstall and got the “operation couldn’t be completed” message.

Just letting you guys know if it helps in tracking these things.

earnest bloom
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I've also noticed missing download numbers fwiw.

Two mods/bundles I uploaded the other day that had well other 500 downloads the day after i uploaded them are currently sitting at 27 and 23.

People could download them no problem now at least but yeah, something screwy is going on with the numbers and it's very tedious.

Edit: Took a quick look through my most popular mods to check and all of their number seem to be stagnating at what they were at a few days ago. Whereas before they'd get a couple hundred downloads a day. Can't help but wonder if this is a side effect of the recent server tweaks that seem to have improved login time and reliability.

earnest bloom
torpid orbit
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Heyo idk if this is the right chat for this but is anyone able to point me in the direction of somewhere I can start to learn modding for fallout 4? dabbled a bit waaay back but been a long time since then. any advice or info would be appreciated

brazen owl
real sphinx
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I've seen a few reports of "most popular" having an odd selection. If you see this, please include a screenshot which includes the mods and what you selected, so I can try replicating this. So far I haven't had any luck.

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noble sluice
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I don’t think it’s a ghost space issue as I just redid my LO yesterday. I know a lot of mods have had the “can’t download” issue recently. (SDA and Haze 2 to name a few) so just adding one more to the pile.

spice vale
noble sluice
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It’s like that on Xbox too. Also, most popular and most favored are the exact same.

formal onyx
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Most Popular, Daily, PlayStation 4

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Most Favorited, Daily, PlayStation 4

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north flower
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Hey I've seen some of my earlier favorites get removed for no reason

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As in I favorited a mod, then a few days later it's gone

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Same applies with saving to library or whatever it's called

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Although it usually only undoes one

grizzled torrent
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You’ll probably have to provide names so they can narrow it down and look into the issue. Did you happen to keep up with the mod page links outside the mod manager?

north flower
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It was on bethnet

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One of the mods was the multiple follower system for ps4 by UniSL(?)

gentle owl
north flower
gentle owl
# north flower I hadn't downloaded these though

im not sure that is the only bug i know that removes mods @real sphinx has been looking into site bugs that have been happening the last week so i will tag them so they know about the problem

rich kiln
boreal nacelle
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Hey, does anyone here know how to add a second game to MO2?

north flower
grizzled torrent
north flower
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To clarify, the favorite got removed on bethnet

grizzled torrent
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They've been having under the hood weirdness on the website. Try favoriting it again and let Cartogriffi know.

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Speaking of weirdness on the website. This has occurred for me for the first time on the FO4 side:

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Latest Chrome, Windows 10. If you need that info.

noble sluice
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@real sphinx The Unofficial Skyrim Creation Club Contact Patch still won’t download.

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Still getting the “operation could not be completed” message.

real sphinx
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Could you send me a link?

noble sluice
real sphinx
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Could you try exiting the game, re-launching, and attempting the download again?

noble sluice
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Still nothing. Gets to 13% and then gives me that message.

real sphinx
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I gave it a nudge, does it work now?

noble sluice
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I saw that it was in 4th in new mods when I last tried it. Want me to exit and try again?

real sphinx
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Yeah, I forced an update in the system which should resolve this for that mod.

noble sluice
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Doing a hard reset too just in case.

real sphinx
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Forced updates shouldn't be necessary following today's fix, but it looks like this was updated prior to the fix going live.

noble sluice
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Yep. Got an update last week I think, which is where all these issues started. Worked fine before.

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Same thing.

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Operation can’t be completed

real sphinx
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That's interesting. I'll let folks know.

plain talon
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I'm having the same result: the Unofficial Creation Club Patch isn't downloading beyond 13%

broken stream
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Is it common for published mods on Bethesda dot net for their download stats to be cleared? A mod I uploaded yesterday has had its stats cleared a few times now...

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Seems like the website has some serious problems TBH.

jagged jolt
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I am really disapointed that the Forums where deleted and we only have chats now to work on mods, all threads for mods and modding are gone , discussion is now limited in a vertical limited and useless chat where messages and things get posted and lost in few minutes

trail geyser
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there is a functioning search system aswell and a threads system enabled on this channel

jagged jolt
broken stream
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Also there's absolutely no way for people to contact the mod author privately, because there's no more mailbox system, right?

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(I promise I'm just highlighting these issues so that they can be resolved, not to stir the pot. I love BGS more than anyone else in the entire world, except for maybe Todd.)

trail geyser
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you can dm them

broken stream
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Proof?

trail geyser
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discords… dm… system?

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the… thing the entire chat client is built around

broken stream
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No I mean on the Bethesda dot net website

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Let's say I have an issue with a mod I downloaded from Bethesda dot net. There's no way for me to ask the mod author anything unless I find them on Discord. Not the most user friendly for people who don't use Discord. And even then, it's not like the Discord profiles are linked to the website.

trail geyser
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ah so i misunderstood

cobalt sluice
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Is it possible to make an All in One of JohnSkyrim's retextures?

broken stream
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Anything's possible, technically

cobalt sluice
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First, I don't know how to do that. Second, I don't know of a way to contact JohnSkyrim to ask permission to make an All in One pack. Third, If I did get permission, I don't know how to port it to Xbox. Chances are that JohnSkyrim might make the All in One.

broken stream
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Fair, I guess you just answered your own question xD

cobalt sluice
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I had issues with JS Common Cages. This is why I was asking about an All in One. I was trying to re-download it but all I got was Operation Could Not be Completed.

broken stream
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Hmm...

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Is your Xbox fully connected to the internet, or is anything block its access? May want to double check that.

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Just checked online, and sometimes to fix that issue you have to do a 'hard reset'

cobalt sluice
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Hard reset... How do I do that?

broken stream
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Lemme seee...

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Sooo... Looks liek you just press the Xbox logo button on the front for 6 seconds.

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And then when you turn it on again the problems may be fixed. Note: This is NOT a factory reset so your files won't be gone or anything. Hope it helps!!!!!!

cobalt sluice
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I hope the hard reset worked.

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9% and then "Operation Could Not be Completed."

broken stream
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Is your internet connection solid on the Xbox?

cobalt sluice
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100% from a recent test check

broken stream
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Hmmm... Well in that case I'm not too sure. I would tag a Bethesda mod but the ones in here are only mods for the Discord I think. I would suggest making a ticket on Bethesda dot net. I'll try looking it up some more, though!

cobalt sluice
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It's okay. You tried your best to help. Thank you.

broken stream
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"Go to the mod menu and then go offline. To go offline go to the settings. Network settings. Then, go offline. Then go back into the mod menu. Go back online by going into settings. Network settings. Go online. Then go back to the mod menu again. Press B . Wait for it too load. Then when you go back to the mod menu it should work. It's really confusing I know"

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This may work? I hope!

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I aint giving up until you can download mods again, my friend!

cobalt sluice
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It's only JS Common Cages that is giving me the error but every other mod is okay.

broken stream
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Hmmm... Well that sounds like it is probably an issue on JS' side. Also, I may or may not be able to contact him soon, about something unrelated but I'll let him know about your issue. There's a chance that he may be unaware of the problem and may be happening to others as well.

cobalt sluice
broken stream
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Dang! Well that guy's fix was from a few years ago but it was worth a shot.

cobalt sluice
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Thank you anyway though.

broken stream
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@cobalt sluice I've just received word that JS just re-uploaded the mod, as it could be a problem with the servers the mod is hosted on and not an issue with the mod itself. Aside from that there's nothing more he can do, BUT this may have fixed it for you! Try redownloading it now and let me know how it goes.

cobalt sluice
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It's redownloaded.

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It worked.

broken stream
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YAYYYY!!!!

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I guess it's all about who you know 😉

spice vale
broken stream
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Oooh I see! Thank you @spice vale I'm glad I'm not going crazy here xD

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Hey @real sphinx, as the post above referenced, my latest 2 mods have had their stats refreshed a few times now. They are located below:

https://bethesda.net/en/mods/skyrim/mod-detail/4276073

https://bethesda.net/en/mods/skyrim/mod-detail/4276075

Hope a fix is found for everyone's sake ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ AdoringFan

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real sphinx
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Thanks!

spice vale
formal onyx
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Yeah, I believed that at some point a negative number would appear there lol

real sphinx
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Certainly a useful data point!

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I've send that up the chain, along with a link to the mod.

Tangential, if a mod has open permissions anyone can port it. One doesn't get exclusive rights by being the first.

astral saffron
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Hey guys, I got kind of a weird issue going on and I haven't seemed to find anyone else who has come across it. I have been modding for over six years so the archive process is not new to me by any means. However, when I go to upload a file to Bethesda via Creation Kit the window where I am supposed to be allowed to drag and drop items from file explorer will not let let. I will try and drag it over but it will not add the file at all. I have submitted a ticket with Bethesda but I haven't gotten any help. Reddit just suggested I run in admin mode (which worked for about a week). I have uninstalled the game and Creation Kit several times but haven't seen any change. I tried it with FO4 CK and it works completely fine. Could any of you help me with this?

noble sluice
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Pleased to report the creation club patch downloaded today without issue. @real sphinx

real sphinx
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Thanks!

grizzled torrent
astral saffron
grizzled torrent
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I just tried it for File > Upload to Bethesda > XB and I'm unable to reproduce your issue. :/ The drag and drop works for me.

astral saffron
grizzled torrent
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What if you create 'dummy' TextureSets in the CK with your retextures? And has nothing to do with Steam. That's the version I have.

astral saffron
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It works perfectly fine for FO4

grizzled torrent
grizzled torrent
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Are you per chance using Alt-Drag or a similar app?

astral saffron
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Thank you for the help by the way

grizzled torrent
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You're welcome. I hope it helps. You might have to inspect for additional scripting being added so just be careful when uploading. My instance of the CK grabs all the things.

astral saffron
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Still not working though. Maybe its a system issue but it works just fine for FO4. Oh well I guess we will see if it fixes itself randomly or whatever. CK is weird

grizzled torrent
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Have you re-verified files or, hell, I dunno, checked to see if your anti-virus ate a thing it wasn't supposed to?

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Ohhh. What about appData derpage? Something might be stuck? (I'm just spitballing at this point.) I had an app get stuck before in-between updates. Clearing the appData for the app and then re-installing fixed that particular issue.

astral saffron
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how do i verify the files? I remember doing it one time a while back but it has been so long

grizzled torrent
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Steam > Library > right click on SSE Creation Kit > Properties > Local Files > Verify Integrity of Software Files

astral saffron
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It says all 0 files successfully validated

grizzled torrent
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Drat.

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The only thing else that I can suggest is to make use of the achlist and manually input your new textures into the achlist and then import. It's a .json file just with a different extension so AFAIK .json syntax applies.

astral saffron
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Yeah that's what I had thought too but there's a whole lot of them and I'm not sure I'd like to do that. Anyways thank you

grizzled torrent
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You're welcome. Sorry I could not be more useful in finding the actual problem.

grizzled torrent
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@astral saffron Is this helpful at all for the packing of your stuff? Won't help the underlying issue, but this might be much easier than the achlist. Apologies for not suggesting earlier. https://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/topic/3054-skyrim-using-bain-and-archiveexe-to-package-a-skyrim-mod/

AFK Mods
[Skyrim] Using BAIN and Archive.exe to Package a Skyrim Mod

It's been awhile since I last wrote up a guide for something, but this one is too good to just let slide by into Oblivion without writing it down somewhere. I'll be posting this as a tutorial for mod distribution via TESA when it's all done. Packaging a mod for distribution in Skyrim is a pain. T...

strange beacon
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Hi guys! I got a question about SCOL creation in CK

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that tricky part where you save several models as a static collection and it either falls down or not. Any advice on how to consistently save SCOLs without that falling issue?

molten acorn
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Create static items of each of them first. The "don't havoc settle" things (script & check box) seem to take a moment to take effect, and y ou go into game with a stack of tankards in mid-collapse, frozen in mid air

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open an item, like a tankard. Highlight and copy the file path for the model. Close. Go to a static object, like candlelanternwithcandle, right-click > duplicate. Open the duplicate, change the name to statictankard or something, hit the edit button next to model. When windows explorers has you in meshes (usually automatic, sometimes have to navigate to it) paste the tankard model file path into the blue highlighted lantern model. Your image should change from lantern to tankard, but it will still be a static object. Close, save, use

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Pretty much the same way people make shields, swords, etc., static for decorating walls, headstones, or whatever.

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*be careful in copy/pasting the file paths, also. Sometimes it likes to highlight a space in front of the file path or something, and it will look right but won't work right.

grizzled torrent
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If you're saving a havok'd item with a pivot, it will take on the havok of the item with physics. Tires do that, for example. Create a new mesh with static havok and then import it and use it instead of the item that has the other type of physics.

strange beacon
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ok, thanks guys!

boreal nacelle
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Hey. Can anyone help me with MO2?

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It seems I have no permission to start F4 over F4SE launcher. Something with writing permissions.
I looked up if my Anti-Virus is the problem. yet I can rule this out, as MO2 is already on the whitelist

rocky sedge
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So I’m having problems downloading USSEP on Xbox, I remember seeing something in this chat saying to report the issue here, basically when I attempted to download the latest version of the mod some process bugged out and I got a operation could not be completed message, note, I only noticed the bug after realizing that some mods I’m using such as open cities and alternate start weren’t enabling due to USSEP not being installed and attempting to reinstall it had the same issue

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Or maybe I was supposed to put this in the Skyrim SE chat

lunar lake
rocky sedge
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👍 posted on both!

soft needle
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So I'm kinda new to modding but looking to get invold, apologies if this is a ridiculous question but, Does anyone have any info on creative engine 2. Is it available yet?

grizzled torrent
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You can download Creation Kit 2.0 for Skyrim and Fallout 4 from Steam. Use of the Creation Kit requires the PC copy of the game so that you have the assets to modify.

thorny lark
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When you want to edit merchant lists
Or add new ingredients
Do you make a new LItemMiscVendor
Also, what is the values for... Value
-1, -2 etc.

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I'm trying to add ingredients to Brand-Shei's inventory, however I don't know exactly how merchants work and erm... I want these ingredients be exclusive to him!

grizzled torrent
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Before adding to the base game without knowing how merchants work, you may wish to create a new merchant so you get the gist of how they're set up. You'll also want to know how to set up a quest with quest alias for the merchant container and you'll need to know a bit of scripting.

thorny lark
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Yikes

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Alright, so now that I found the bugger what do I do?

molten acorn
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In xedit, my exp is limited to being able to combine existing lists. I would have to go to CK to create the ones. I know it can be done in xedit but I'm not sure how.

thorny lark
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Okay, then we can go that approach

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I'm more comfortable with CK anyways

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Alright, so I found the actor in CK

thorny lark
molten acorn
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For me, it's easier to create leveled lists in creation kit, then use xedit to fix any conflicts. I haven't created new ones in xedit before.

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but I see the redoran guard template is using outfit DLC2RRRedoranGuardOutfit

thorny lark
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Yeah, I saw that as wel

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In the default (I didn't know there was a thing such as the sleep outfit) outfit

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Oh, okay I see now

molten acorn
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yeah, nobody ever seems to switch to them

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I suspect it was something never implemented fully

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they'd rather sleep in armor

thorny lark
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Where do you find outfits?

molten acorn
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right under the NPC column in xedit.

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In CK, I think they're under the item category, but I don't have that loaded up to double check

thorny lark
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I'm not using xEdit AdoringFan

molten acorn
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lmao

thorny lark
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Okay, so this is my question

molten acorn
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I am confused now

thorny lark
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This is where I am at

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If I wanted guards to have variety in their armor

molten acorn
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Ok, so leave that open for a min. Switch the object window over to leveled items and right-click > new

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I'm sorry. I thought you had said you were using xedit, so I loaded it and was trying to work in that.

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but ck is easier

thorny lark
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Nah, I switched because you said CK is easier

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Okay, so I have a new LeveledItem tab open

molten acorn
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Ok, so did you already load the CC mod as a plugin?

thorny lark
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Yeah, it's part of my plugin I made

molten acorn
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Ok, switch to items > armor and find the helmet

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drag it into the leveled list box

thorny lark
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Done

molten acorn
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ok, find the bonemold helmet and any others you want them to choose from, drag them into the leveled list also

thorny lark
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Is there a way to see what they wear

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Oh wait duh

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The other tab

molten acorn
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Might be able to drag and drop a few of them into a cell and see if they show up differently dressed, but they may all just be the green M icon.

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haven't done much w/ redoran guards, but for normal guards I usually have to go in game to see what they spawn with

thorny lark
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It's weird

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Captain Veleth is the only one to wear Bonemold Guard armor

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Think it's worth adding that in or nah

molten acorn
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everybody else just wears bonemold regular?

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up to you

thorny lark
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Yeah

molten acorn
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Trying to remember what's different about his

thorny lark
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It has a little

molten acorn
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no helmet I know, but maybe pauldrons?

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all depends how much variety you want.

thorny lark
molten acorn
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ah, ok

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if you decide to, it would be the same process but with a different leveled list

thorny lark
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Ohh, do I substitute the regular Redoran helmet?

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In this leveled item?

molten acorn
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with the helmets list, you probably have most of the default settings. I would keep them all at lvl 1, click the two calculate boxes and make sure "use all" is unchecked. Give it a unique name

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you drag the regular helmet, the CC helmet, and any others into this list. Then the list becomes the helmet pool that they can "choose" from

thorny lark
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Why can't I add the guard armor then?

molten acorn
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this list is for helmets

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you would want a separate one for armor, or they may show up wearing only one or the other

thorny lark
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I'm confused

molten acorn
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they're only going to choose one item per list, unless you check use all, in which case they'll spawn with multiple helmets and armors in their inventory

thorny lark
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Oh, okay I see

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That makes a lot of sense

molten acorn
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my stormcloaks right now have nothing but leveled lists in their outfit

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they all spawn wearing different combinations of stuff

thorny lark
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Alright, I made the list

molten acorn
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Ok, saved with unique name?

thorny lark
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Ahh crap oop

molten acorn
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lol

thorny lark
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I didn't check the calculate box

molten acorn
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it happens to me all the time

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also, make sure "chance none" is zero for these

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if you made "chance none" 50, for example, only half of them would wear helmets at all

thorny lark
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Chance None is 0

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Alright, now what?

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I'm in their outfit

molten acorn
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Ok, cool. Go back to the outfit tab, delete the helmet from it and drag the helmet leveled list into it

thorny lark
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Wouldn't my helmet be replacing the previous one?

molten acorn
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your helmet list will replace the previous single helmet in the outfit

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yes

thorny lark
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But I want variety?

molten acorn
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that's what the list gives you

thorny lark
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So why do I have to delete the helmet?

molten acorn
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they spawn with the outfit, same boots, same armor, same gloves, and one of the helmets in the list

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because you're replacing it with the leveled list you made, which has that helmet in it already

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assuming you added the original helmet and the cc helmet both to the list?

thorny lark
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Okay, I'ma trust you

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Yeah, both helmets are in the list

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This is what I am looking at rn

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It's not a leveled list, that's why I am kinda sketch

molten acorn
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they dress from the outfit, but now your outfit will contain a leveled list of possible helmets instead of just one standard helmet

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this is my stormcloak outfit and the helmet list

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their whole outfit is all leveled lists, and they have probably a dozen or more items in each to choose from

thorny lark
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So does it matter if I replace the helmet or not is what I am asking I sippose

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Suppose*

molten acorn
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only in that I think they will spawn with it and another one from the list

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I don't think it will hurt anything, but if they spawn with both and they deem the standard one "better," you may not see them wearing the other

thorny lark
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I don't want it in their inventory though

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Also, I can't delete anything in the outfit

molten acorn
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you should be able to

thorny lark
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Oh, just use delete

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Okay, so I deleted the helmet

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Replace it

molten acorn
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if it's giving you trouble, though, you can also make a unique outfit, then go to the guard template and change the outfit they use

thorny lark
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Now what

molten acorn
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yep, replace it with the list you made

thorny lark
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How do I do that?

molten acorn
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in the object window, pull up leveled lists and start typing the name of the one you made. You should be able to drag/drop it right into the outfit

thorny lark
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Okay, just to be double sure you had me create an identical list to the outfit and alongside the original helmet, I added the CC helmet. Then you had me go back an delete the original helmet in the default Outfit

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So the lists aren't supposed to be identical

molten acorn
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I thought you were working in your newly created outfit

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with your newly created leveled list?

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if not, it's ok. You can modify their default outfit just as easily.

thorny lark
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It's just one list has two helmets and the other has only the CC one which is making me question everything, lolll

molten acorn
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Ok, in your outfit, is that an extra helmet up top?

thorny lark
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Yes

molten acorn
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take out the extra so they don't spawn with both

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the extra is already part of the leveled list?

thorny lark
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Okay I see what you want

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You want the two different helmets in separate outfits (The default then my own levelled list)

molten acorn
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no

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sorry, am explaining myself badly

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whether you use their outfit or your own doesn't matter. They're only going to see whichever one you assign them. Whichever one that is should have boots, gloves, armor, shield, and a leveled list for helmets instead of a helmet entry.

thorny lark
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Did you want to remove the helmet entirely???

molten acorn
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from the outfit, yes, because you're replacing it with a list of possible helmets to choose from

thorny lark
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Ok I may understand

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So, the list is an actual list

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And if I wanted to do a cuirass

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I'd delete the cuirass

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Then make another one of these said lists

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In the same way

molten acorn
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yes

thorny lark
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Big brain

molten acorn
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look back at my stormcloak pic, they don't have any standard at all in their outfit, just the lists.

thorny lark
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Oh, that's so smart

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Okay, so should it be good now?

molten acorn
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should be good to go

thorny lark
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Okay further question though

molten acorn
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would load everything in xedit, look at this mod and make sure it wins any conflicts

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if for some reason they spawn with none or too many, look at the calcs and settings on your leveled list

thorny lark
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How do I account for the other variants if I wanted to add a curais

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If I had 5 pairs of each body type for example

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Do you end up having only a list of helmets, boots, etc.

molten acorn
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that should all be handled in the armor addons for the armor

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each armor should have the armor addons that specify the male and female, 1st and 3rd person models

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you should only have to worry about dragging the main "armor" into the list

thorny lark
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Alright, maybe I should follow up with this question

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Is there anything I need to do differently now, if I were to want to add the guard cuirass?

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Or is it the same steps?

molten acorn
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same steps

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*same steps to create the leveled list. Then drag it into the same outfit with the helmet list.

thorny lark
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Just replace the cuirass

molten acorn
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yes

thorny lark
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My mind is absolutely blown

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Tysm

molten acorn
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yuou're welcome

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hope it helps

thorny lark
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Absolutely

molten acorn
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good good

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I will be back later, on break. Gotta clock in by 9.

thorny lark
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Nice, ttyl

molten acorn
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take care

thorny lark
molten acorn
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Double check the list, to be sure it's chance none - zero

thorny lark
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I promise!

molten acorn
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also, can approach them in game, click on them with console, type resetinventory

thorny lark
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I have never been to solstheim, cri

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its a new save

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Is this wrong?

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Somewhere?

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Ahh, it may have something to do with the fact I never added shield

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So the game may be offering it the choice of wearing a helmet or equipping a shielf?

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Okay, um

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This did not fix the issue

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Figured it out, I wasn't supposed to have the whole outfit in my leveled list

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only helmets

molten acorn
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lmao, there you go

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sorry I missed that

thorny lark
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Would you just make outfits in these leveled lists and have nothing in the OG?

boreal nacelle
molten acorn
# thorny lark Would you just make outfits in these leveled lists and have nothing in the OG?

If there is a way to make them choose full outfits, the only thing I could think of would be to create a leveled list that is a full outfit...on this type, you could check "use all." Create one for each outfit, then stuff them all into another leveled list, without "use all" checked. Drag that single leveled list into the outfit box. So they see their outfit, it has a leveled list which makes them choose one of the other three but not all, and then once they get into the one they chose, that one forces them to wear all of what's in it.

thorny lark
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I actually looked and it seems that bandits follow my suggested method

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You make an outfit in the leveled list, and if you have multiple of those they choose between them

molten acorn
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yup

thorny lark
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Niccceeee

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Also, I had a revelation for my Morrowind mod

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The guard armor that is unused is the traditional armor that the Redoran guard used in Morrowind

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Gah-Julan armor

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I'm going to make it the standard, and rename it to Gah-Julan Bonemold Armor

molten acorn
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I have that with steel plate, currently. Because of all the Nordwar steel plate-ish armors. There are leveled lists with a full matching set of each. Then there is one leveled list with 4 other leveled lists, each of those doing all the possible cuirasses, helmets, boots, gloves. So there is a chance they'll spawn with one of several matching armors or they might spawn with a mix n match pile of armor.

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very nice

thorny lark
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Oo, nicee

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I'm looking at Morrowind bandits and seeing how their leveled lists worked

formal onyx
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@real sphinx Dear Cartogriffi, I'm kicked out in less than a second. I had to use my reflexes to take screenshots. There may be something else wrong with BethesaNetMods. Just in case

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gloomy bramble
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@real sphinx what is going on?

real sphinx
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Confirmed, I'm escalating

eager yacht
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same same...thanks!

plain talon
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On my end, I'm being told mods are failing to load right before I'm redirected to Bethesda's main hub.

molten acorn
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@thorny lark how did you make out? Is it coming together for you?

real sphinx
thorny lark
thorny lark
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Now I am trying to figure out how to edit merchant lists AdoringFan VaultBoySick

thorny lark
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Is there a way to edit what door textures are being used?

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For a specific door?

grizzled torrent
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Skyrim

The absolute basics of what to do:

In the Object Window:

Create a new texture set for your new door textures.

Create a new door by duplicating the door form you wish to replace and add your door texture set to the model.

In the cell:

Find and Replace the specific door in the cell.

All data should remain the same after doing a find and replace. Be sure not to move the door or it will mess with navmeshing.

Fallout 4

The absolute basics of what to do:

In the Object Window:

Create a new material swap record

In the Layers Window:

Freeze all layers.

In the cell:

Double-click the door to edit it.

Add the new material to the door.

Be sure not to move the door or it will mess with navmeshing.

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Note: For Skyrim, the model has to be set to remappable textures. I'm unsure if all models are listed as remappable. Several wood models (the shack kit) for example require new models to change the UV if using a wood that goes in a different direction than the default. Default to Windhelm (I think) wood, for example. For Fallout 4, the model has to have the BGSM file in the appropriate place on the model itself to be swappable. There are a few that are not in FO4 and so new models have to be created in Nifskope with the BGSM added.

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That's a lot of info but if you need specific directions, just ask. I do not currently have the CK open to provide any more than the basics.

solid basin
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Im still having the issues of not being able to download some mods

gentle owl
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can vertex colors be transfered from one mesh to another

rich kiln
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@real sphinx Not sure if this has been asked or not, but any idea if there will be something done at some point to fix the login issues for the Creation Kit wiki? It's been borked for quite a while now. TamaSad

spice vale
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Any update on website issues?

strong orchid
solid basin
strong orchid
solid basin
strong orchid
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Spirit of a lion describes my soul

grizzled spire
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I have an idea I want to make for a unique group of people on a mod I’m making

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It will be a planet with monkeys that evolved from humans instead of the other way.

molten acorn
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Will they have English accents?

rich kiln
strong orchid
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ye modernity's cringe

cobalt sluice
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Where did the Ring of Immortality originate from?

soft needle
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Can anyone answer a newb question with using Blender? Edit: disregard I found the option

trail geyser
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heres my tutorial on blender

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smack literally everything until you know what everything does

lunar lake
cobalt sluice
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Skyrim.

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I have that mod on Xbox. But I don't know it's origin.

soft needle
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So after about 6/7 hrs following a Blender tutorial to create a donut. It keeps crashing on me everytime I try to switch to edit mode ☠️☠️☠️

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Would it be worth the time to get Skyrim and get a feel for using creative engine? ...My end goal is to mod Starfield

gloomy leaf
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Creating new 3d models however will still need to be done in another program such as blender

grizzled torrent
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To extend the CK mod list when you are uploading mods to Bethesda.net add the following to your CreationKitCustom.ini:

[Bethesda.net]
uiDefaultNumSearchResults=800

This was posted to the official Creation Kit Forums (on the FO4 side), but I am not sure if it made to the CK wiki. I have not checked, and I have been unable to log in for quite some time. This setting should work for both Skyrim and FO4. I just looked in the mod manager on Xbox and realized that a mod author had not been able to update their mod on Bethesda.net because they could not access their full list in the CK.

And if this setting has changed, would one of the devs be kind enough to share the correct setting? Thank you.

gentle owl
grizzled torrent
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That seems like a very inefficient workflow, Alaann. Save time by simply editing the initialization file.

gentle owl
grizzled torrent
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I play and mod on console but check that my papyrus logs aren't derping on PC.

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If they derping on PC, they explode on Xbox.

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Test your mods thoroughly before uploading and causing issues for your players.

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No one wants to play a crashy game.

gentle owl
grizzled torrent
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If one doesn't test their mods thoroughly one is not able to assist when problems arise and could be contributing to problems for their playerbase. Furthermore, I dunno about you, but I don't like playing Fallout 4: Crash-a-holics Anonymous

devout coral
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Good afternoon all. I am new to the Discord but a returning Fallout 4 player on Xbox. In the last couple days I have learned that the modding scene has changed DRASTICALLY and that mods like AWKCR and AE are no longer the go-to mods. So after doing some research I found ECO to make up for AWKCR. Loosing some of my favorite mods. After even more research I learned of Infamous' No AWKCR and AE For Mods File Dump which makes it possible to use AWKCR dependent mods such as Modular Leather Armor or The Mercenaries Set(I personally use the Stand alone "The Rebel NEXUS PORT (LOrdOfWar original NO DLC) ported by Author bhk1990. I contacted Infamous to see if they would/could be ported to console. I have confirmation of permission so long as credit is given to those it's due to. I however Have ZERO modding knowledge. Is there a reputable place to ask for requests (I have no desire to be annoying about it just hoping someone is bored. ) Any info would be greatly appreciated as I really don't want to use AWKCR and ECO in tandem. Feel free to PM me if that's a better route. Thank you for the time.

gentle owl
grizzled torrent
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I think we are having a miscommunication, alaann. Let's try this again: I wasn't having any issues with uploading. I was sharing information after seeing that another mod author had obsoleted their Xbox FO4 mod when they could not access their full CK list. I have had that ini setting on my CreationKitCustom.ini since about 2018 or so when it was first posted to the CK forums on the Bethesda website. I cannot login to creationkit.com (the CK wiki) so I do not know if the setting has been added under the Initialization Files entry. I have not had access the CK wiki in quite some time either due to Chrome or other issues with the wiki site.

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I mentioned crashy because we had gotten onto another topic. That of testing only on Xbox. Testing should be done on both PC and Xbox so that you can view any papyrus logs of any uploads. If porting, one should also make sure that Actor.pex, ScriptObject.pex, and other native scripts are not within the BA2 or BSA.

covert pelican
gentle owl
grizzled torrent
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Mods created with an older version of the CK or with a data folder that has FS4E scripting in it sometimes will catch the native scripting. Newer mod authors don't always know they need to double check that they haven't packed the native scripts and brand-new porters may not realize they need to actually look at the BA2 or BSAs to ensure that the mods they're porting don't have dirty archives.

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The info isn't necessarily for you, alaann, just for new authors and porters.

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Also, thank you, Arthmoor. The mirror appears to be much easier to update. 😄

grizzled torrent
# devout coral Good afternoon all. I am new to the Discord but a returning Fallout 4 player on ...

AWKCR on Xbox is not the same as the AWKCR PC version from Nexus. It has remained the same unless you use a mod that uses Gambit77's version (such as Classy Chassis). Gambit's Xbox version has a bug with Power Armor that was never fixed. (There is a patch that may or may not break things further. Use at your own discretion.)

There are two problems on Xbox: First is that AWKCR (regardless of whose mod you use) requires a Creation Club patch for the keywords for weapons and armors to be updated regardless if you download from Creation Club. Unified Clothing Overhaul or another patch are available. Load Order if using with AE: AWKCR (Valdicil's version) > AE > UCO (or a Creation Club patch for weapons and armor). Second is that AWKCR (regardless of whose mod you use) is an overhaul of all vanilla weapons and armors and so you can only use new weapon and armors or have to patch any other mod that updates stats of vanilla weapons and armors.

Do be a little wary of using Xbox weapon mods that were created purely in xEdit and have not been updated prior to Dec 2018 as there were weapons and armors OMODs decoding that hadn't been done with that tool until then. Check the dates of mods you download.

devout coral
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@grizzled torrent Thank you for the information! I will go through and double check the dates when I play again.

grizzled torrent
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Not all weapons are doofy. It's just something to check for in the descriptions.

devout coral
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Yeah because as it stands the only mods I was using that needed awkcr was MLA and LOrdOfWars The Rebel port. I was using Valdicils no dlc version only because I didn't need it for much. But reading on reddit and the likes it was like AWKCR bad ECO good lol

grizzled torrent
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ECO is a more modern and up to date crafting overhaul but we really don't have much choice on Xbox. We can only work around with what we have.

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Not if we want to use Modular or Rebel. (Xbox Rebel is not the same as PC version Rebel either.)

acoustic folio
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does anyone know how to fix this glitch with honest hearts and hardcore mode dying when I get their?

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its just that time travels while doing it and my hardcore stats keep going up

lucid osprey
#

Hello guys, I have a question regarding conflicts with meshes in OpenMW. I am following the "Total Overhaul" modlist

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Correct meshes and Patch for Purists are in conflit and I don't see how, I've already deleted the BookArt folder

naive mesa
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Can we please get more mods for fallout 4 that honor our soldiers

vital mural
spice vale
#

Any update on website issues?

devout coral
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Does anyone by chance remember what was in any of Moddymodmod's merge packs? I still have Ethreons and Fadingsignals merge packs but for the life of me I don't remember whats all in them 😅 I wanna switch up my LO a bit out of necessity but don't want to delete any requirements for them. Any insight would be greatly appreciated

clever moth
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I keep trying to link my steam account with bethnet but it keeps not working and giving me a technical error. How do I fix this ?

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Been trying for two days

slim reef
rocky ivy
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Hello, im new here, and really dont know much about modding but can anyone help me find a mod that adds all shouts as powers for skyrim se on xbox one, I found one on bethesda.net but you have to purchase them, im looking for one where you can just craft them or pick them up from a chest or something easy like that and thank you in advance.

floral ember
tepid juniper
tepid juniper
mystic olive
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The payment for the creation of Mods is against the Terms of Service, and discussion of such is not allowed on this discord.

rocky ivy
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@hughmungoos I dont play skyrim as the dragonborn so I want to have shouts with out having to play the main quest, im sorry, I should have explained the earlier.

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@Dova-kit im sorry, I didn't know the terms of service, I apologize for my actions.

tepid juniper
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I believe that mod has spells that are essentially like shouts. The only other thing that comes to mind for Xbox is to use cheat room to give you all the spells in the game and it will include unobtainable spells. I think some of those spells are actually the shout effects, you could then favorite those and use shouts that way.

#

There's a pc mod that actually does what you're looking for, but you can't get that on xbox.

gentle owl
wide comet
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If you want to break game sequences, of course.

rocky ivy
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@hughmungoos thank you for your help, I really appreciate it.

thorny lark
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Any idea why perkus mod doesn't work

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My skyrim is the old one before graphics overhaul

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Stealth skill doesn't increase at all

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And another did the same

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And a stamina potion have me super human fighting speed which can't be right

trail geyser
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you cant mod non se skyrim on xbox

pliant tide
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I wish more games on Xbox allowed mods. Just Skyrim and FO4. Are old games like Oblivion just incapable of supporting mods on console. I bet BGS would see a huge increase in sales if they could make it happen.

trail geyser
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easier said then done and itd effect modding on pc badly

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as theyd have to update oblivion which means these decade+ year old script extender things that havent been touched in just as long would no longer work

covert pelican
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Oblivion's modding community is still very active. There would be updates for OBSE in no time.

trail geyser
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except fro a lot of mods USING obse that havent been touched

#

sometimes i dont think people read everything i say

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or purposely misunderstand

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not to mentioned theyd also have to change quite a bit to integrate the bethnet services on an engine from 2006 they havent worked with since skyrim launched

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updating obse itself wont make anything else work that uses dlls

gentle owl
covert pelican
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The vast majority of mods for Oblivion just use it for scripting. Updating that won't break anything. DLLs aren't as common there.

trail geyser
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and yet they do exist especially flr things like skybsa which i use to make oblivions files work in a actually logical way

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and ontop of all that its all easier said then done

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thwy updated fallout 3 wheres console modding on that

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why do you think itd be that easy to implement

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theres also working with microsofts rulws for getting it set up ontop of the fact oblivion literally isnt even remotely set up with an in game mod manager or the ability to reload mods while the game is running

rustic turret
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Are armor decals in textures basically layered?

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Like the Reilly's Rangers logo.

grizzled torrent
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It depends on the armor. Some vanilla armors have an additional spot on the mesh to fill in with a decal.

rustic turret
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I want to create a custom decal for the Sneedclave Power Armor.

grizzled torrent
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I'm not familiar with that one. I assume you have permissions from the OMA or are wanting this for personal use. Reilly's Rangers logo is both in FO4 (Creation Club) and in FO3. So if it has to do with FO3, you may need to wait for someone who mods that game to answer or ask in classic-mods.

If it's based on any of the standard FO4 power armors, there should be a BSSubIndexTriShape for it on the mesh. For example, PA_T45_Body.nif has it across the chest and is conveniently labeled PA_T45_Body_DECAL:0. The easiest way to look if you're unfamiliar with meshes, is to look in the CK under the model file and see if there's a blank or decal slot with a BGSM file. Then create a new BGSM with Material Editor pointing to your new decal and create your new material swap in the CK.

If you are familiar with meshes, you can use Nifskope to copy paste the BSSubIndexTriShape branch from a vanilla armor to wherever you want the decal (and move it around) if it isn't there. It might need to be done with Blender to get the wrapping around whatever piece you want correct and properly aligned. Also, you'll still need to create a BGSM for the decal texture. I don't know how much modding you've done or which game you're looking to mod so the answer isn't as detailed as it could be.

grizzled torrent
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The server appears to be having problems. I've been trying for about an hour to upload a 31mb FO4 mod so I can get it tested on Xbox.

ugh.JPG
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Accidentally created two mods (i have others to upload so can simply overwrite them) but the second one also did the same thing.

#

I've tried with and without a description thinking I accidentally added a no-no word.

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I doubt it has anything to do with it, but just in case: I just updated to the Steam version of the FO4 creation kit this evening.

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Mod detail: 4280565 and 4280566

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It stops at 25%.

grizzled torrent
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Just an update, I’ve attempted on two different accounts to upload an Fo4 Xbox mod, and it gets to about the same before stopping. I’ve been told in another server that updating mods is not going through on the Skyrim Xbox side, but have not confirmed this myself.

solid basin
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I thought it was an issue with possibly rewinding the CK to pre steam version so I could use the CK fixes

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Also,

Is anyone Familiar with a MA by the name of AmethystDeceiver? Im wondering if they have anything like discord server or account, so i can get into contact with them. I already sent a message on nexus, but another source wouldn't be bad

grizzled torrent
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Another update. So far I have been able to upload to and update the mods pages. When I returned to the game on Xbox to download to test, I did notice that it jumped me right to the mods manager screen, and I don't remember being in that screen the last time I played. I am unsure if this had something to do with it or if it was simply a server hiccup or a miscommunication between Beth and Microsoft. Regardless, thank you to whomever pushed the buttons on the back end. Much appreciated.

grizzled torrent
solid basin
grizzled torrent
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If you give them the mod-detail numbers from your link, they might be able to help you out.

solid basin
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Oh no, it's umm... a private mod. I'm a Xbox user, but once in awhile I can port mods, be it for myself or the public. Did a bunch of mods, including Gritty Paladin Armor and Gritty Animation Bundle. The Former got me reqconized as a mod author by nexus, so that made me happy

real sphinx
grizzled torrent
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Thank you. 🙂

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I am mildly curious if the Quick Resume feature on Series had made a derp somewhere.

late verge
molten acorn
rustic turret
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Is it allowable legally for me to pay a VA to supplement voice lines for a mod as long as the final product is free?

grizzled torrent
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I cannot speak to legalities but I’ve purchased licenses for assets for mods and others have too. One would hope an artist gets paid for their work.

gentle owl
grizzled torrent
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I usually get assets from CGTrader when they have discounts and sales.

gentle owl
ruby brook
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Is anyone else having the bethesda.net not connecting to servers problem?

grizzled torrent
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Yes. The Status portal says things are ok though. I was unable to upload FO4 mods larger than 30mb earlier this week and again when I tried yesterday. And at least one PC player had issues downloading.

gloomy leaf
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So still not the time to upload Seasons

grizzled torrent
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I'm curious if you're able to. VaultGirlWink

gloomy leaf
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Well it's well above 30mb for sure 😂

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Above300

gloomy leaf
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Well I successfully uploaded Grounded Updated by Sarinia today, but it's an esp file only.

trail geyser
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theres not that many missing between official cc and some mods

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*base game cc and mods

thorny lark
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Never had an issue.

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I run 150 at all times on both fallout and Skyrim.

grizzled torrent
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Check out HxGrill and TheFriedTurkey’s stuff. They have a roadmap. There’s also Creation Club.