fallout-tv-series

[slim night]

He’s not 20 lol he’s a few years older. I think in Fallout 4 he is 23

[lofty prairie]

On some records terminal it said he was 20

I could be mistaken tho cuz Danse said hes the youngest elder ever to be made elder

[slim night]

I could’ve sworn Danse or someone else says he is 23. He is the youngest, but he was also groomed by the Council at the Pentagon to be the Elder they wanted him to be, after Sarah’s death.

Sure, he’s young but he has the Brotherhood’s greatest minds behind him that have been coaching him since he was 11-12

[lofty prairie]

His best friend was liberty prime and his crush was Sarah. Infact when she died he became shallow apparently.

It’s some padmae and anakin type shi

But yeah he didn’t live a normal child life

At that point tho the maxsons had lost all power and were a disgrace it was the elders way of regaining power with a figurehead. Maxsons dad was a paladin from the east and his mother was a female scribe who mysteriously were found dead when the west was revolting against the Maxson rule. The west scribes and knights wanted the Maxsons to be wiped out.

[slim night]

Yeah idk he is so complicated because he clearly did have a crush on Sarah through dialogue. But, her death really made his ideology on life take a tragic 180. You can still see moments of that through Fallout 4, where he tells you he genuinely cares about the safety of the Commonwealth. But then he also is very cold towards perceived enemies and even sometimes commonwealth citizens.

[slim night]

Roger Maxson founded the BoS. He was not a Paladin.

[lofty prairie]

Roger Maxson wasn’t Arthur’s father

Some random paladin we don’t know the name of was.

[lofty prairie]

Yeah and what’s even tragic is Sarah’s death was deemed by a robot im pretty sure. Which maybe a nod to why Maxson hates robots.

[lofty prairie]

Im pretty sure Arthur Maxsons dad was a random paladin in the Mojave chapter and same with his mother but she was a scribe.

[slim night]

I know this lol. But I’ve never seen or heard anything about Roger’s son being a random paladin.

[lofty prairie]

I remember cuz Oxhorn did a vid on it

[lofty prairie]

Wydm Roger’s son

Huh

Im confused Roger Maxson the founder of the BoS had a son who became elder 200 years prior to Arthur’s birth

Somewhere on that lineage a paladin was born and he had a baby with a scribe and they named him Arthur

[slim night]

Where is this found is what I’m asking lol.

[dusky flicker]

i wonder what they’ll do w the NCR battalion, i doubt they’ll be another joke

[lofty prairie]

This vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrEhsE83SMQ

[slim night]

Sarah’s death is pretty vague. All that is known is after her father’s death of old age, she was promoted to Elder. She died in a battle (most likely Super Mutants/not robots) and that is when Arthur was coached into becoming Elder.

[dusky flicker]

what will not happen but what would be sick is boone being in it mayhaps

[lofty prairie]

His fathers name was Jonothan Maxson and his mother was Jessica Maxson

They im pretty sure were part of the Mojave chapter.

I’m if you don’t believe me look at this vid and look you Arthur Maxsons parents it’s in the offical wiki

[lofty prairie]

Yeah her death came back in conclusive cuz the people she went out with died with her aswell. And Maxson was still young so they had a period where they had to have stand in elders till Maxson was old enough.

@slim night watch this vid cuz it’s shows the interesting decline of the Maxsons

[slim night]

Thats not reliable anymore sadly. That comes from information in Fallout, which Bethesda has stated they can retcon any piece since they’ve done so in the past. Fallout 1/2 are semi-canon, Fallout Tactics is non-canon, and I think there’s another that isn’t canon.

[lofty prairie]

Fallout 1 and 2 arent semi canon they are full canon what do you mean

Tactics and Fallout brotherhood of steel are the two non canon ones

[lofty prairie]

No im 100% sure this information is reliable cuz im pretty sure it was found in FO3 aswell

[slim night]

There have been retcons in those two.

[lofty prairie]

Wdym like what? Cuz everyone ive talked to and watched YouTube videos of say the first two are full canon

Oh maybe minor things like Vault tek being spelt like this and the enclave og agenda but that’s not major

[slim night]

It’s just little stuff here and there so I don’t trust much of anything from Fallout 1 and 2 unless expressly stated as Canonical by Bethesda. That’s just how I am though

[lofty prairie]

Ok

Tbh that game has some wacky lore seeing how you have the Doctor in it and a star trek portal

[slim night]

Back on topic though, the only real way I see this being played out is the east coast killing off Maximus’ Chapter.

[lofty prairie]

Most definitely, I mean if fallout 4 canons ending is BoS they are done for. They don’t stand a chance against liberty prime

West has literally come down to thick skulled Catholics who act like 5 yr olds

[slim night]

For real lol

[autumn jay]

I wonder how many synths are still out in the world and if we’ll ever see in in the show.

[lofty prairie]

Probably not

[autumn jay]

We don’t know who is a synth tho

[strong pine]

nobody thinks its odd with fraternization between ranks and branches in BOS -- usually that kind of thing is verboten in military circles

[plush quest]

I'd like to throw in, every High Elder we know of has been a Maxon. The BoS has always been a heriditary monarchy but no one likes to awknowledge it.

Elder Arthur Maxon from 4 is likely High Elder Maxon by now

[lofty prairie]

Most definitely

[plain portal]

So she could still be alive

[lofty prairie]

Well maybe I don’t think they ever found her body. But if she didn’t go back to BoS I doubt that she would’ve made it far injured with all the muties running around

[dense granite]

Why are there 4 airships now?

[plain portal]

Or she is in hiding

[grizzled gate]

Imagine Liberty Prime has been walking to Nevada this whole time.

He finally gets there and everyone is already dead.

[lofty prairie]

Funny

[mighty geyser]

Nah he had more of a battle hardened look,

Don’t forget his scar

[lofty prairie]

Which he got from killing a deathclaws with his pocket knife

[vivid meadow]

Bruh thaddeus makes his kids work 22 hour shifts. How are they still standing 💀

[lofty prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/eltonjohn-gif-5359749307073358854

Ghoul Kids be like

[vivid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/eltonjohn-rocketman-i'mstillstanding-meme-music-gif-12342976644420671547

[lofty prairie]

Anyways so excited for the next episode

[red forge]

They could take regular breaks... and perhaps not as if they have homes to return to.

[versed path]

What the companions see in fallout new vegas after the courier disappears for 5 ingame weeks completing dead money

[lofty prairie]

Yeah lol

[nova mango]

As Thaddeus said "Better than people waking you up really early and making you do push ups every morning and commanding you around" which tells me he at least pays, takes care and doesn't wake them really early

At least that's my interpretation

[stray granite]

Cryo Gun

Like in Fallout 4 and 76 that type of cryo gun.

[dense granite]

They payment is not dying

[nova mango]

True

[ebon oracle]

I initially thought Victor was voiced again by the OG voice actor from NV, William Sadler. But it turns out, Victor in the show is voiced by Jesse Burch. Jesse's no stranger to voicing in Fallout, primarily in New Vegas and recently voiced in Gone Fission as Captain Raymond Clark and "The Fisherman". I'm impressed by Jesse's acting. Damn. When I see Jesse Burch, I think of Driver Nephi. You know... the OG meme origin with the famous quote "Get f******". Ngl, I'm impressed Jesse's able to make a good Victor impression. Made me initially thought the OG voice actor of Victor reprised his role.

[nova mango]

I could tell it wasn't the OG but he did damn well voicing Victor for sure

[slim night]

Part of me believes that’s not even Victor but it may be Robert House himself controlling the robot. He was…very vague when it came to the whereabouts of House. And Victor in NV knew exactly where House was and told the courier no problem.

[nova mango]

Could be that House doesn't trust Cooper, remember he can control Victor and the 2 I guess technically 3 all have history, for example, in Goodsprings in NV you can ask Victor to help against the Powder Gangers, but he was deactivated due to a code so maybe House used a code on him or smth

[dry thistle]

I asked the other day, but didn't get any answers: Can anyone tell me when the radscorpions show up in episode 2, and if 2 or 3 have any other big buggies?

[lofty prairie]

Why does it matter?

[dry thistle]

I watch the show with my girlfriend, and she has a rather strong aversion to creepy crawlies. If I know when they show up, I can tell her when to close her eyes! 🙂

[lofty prairie]

Ok fair, im idk the exact time but you’ll know when to skip it because Cooper Howard will be looking at a Hospital door and you’ll see Lucy look at the vents. After that part is when you should skip till you see a scene when Lucy gives a stimpak to a slave. And no I can’t remember episode 3 having any bugs.

Thats probs not helpful but I don’t remember the exact time

[dry thistle]

Great, thank you so much! We appreciate it! 😄

(The details really help!)

[ebon palm]

ella purnell is such a baddie bro

[red forge]

We did answer. We said there were radscorpions teasered at the time.

#fallout-tv-series message

Actually they ended up showing later. 1st ep didn't cover that.

But only the 1st ep was out at that time.

All we knew at the time was what was teasered in the trailers.

[dusky flicker]

i cant wait for the next episode after the last one

[lofty prairie]

Yes same

[dusky flicker]

also i find it suspicious that (i think) we’ve technically heard more about “fallout 5” than we have “TESVI” …………..

coincidence???? (yes)

[red forge]

Probably best for #fallout-general-chat

[lofty prairie]

Well I mean, ES6 news doesnt sell prime subscription and boost Fallout views

[dusky flicker]

yeah im just bein silly

[lofty prairie]

Im not going to stop complaining about this till the last episode but next season release it all at once. Especially if you feel devious enough to end every episode on a mini cliffhanger.

I for one like weekly releases I just don’t like it when it’s so bloody suspenseful

[dusky flicker]

hard disagree, if you wanna watch it all at once just wait til its all out, way more fun and healthy for the franchise to have pockets of discussion and build-up

[lofty prairie]

And then theres the part of me thats an impatient baboon

[dusky flicker]

lmao me tooo

[lofty prairie]

The duality of Jissc

[red forge]

That's what hype build up is all about.

[lofty prairie]

Exactly and it both fills me with joy and hatred

[autumn jay]

She’s so hot. Idk how people don’t like her

[plain portal]

I agree

[autumn jay]

My boy

[lofty prairie]

I too wish to compare her to that of an angel

[nova mango]

Weekly keeps you excited and wanting more while letting you process all the information from the last episode, at the same time it keeps the hype for the entire series alive overall

And that's why I love weekly now

[lofty prairie]

Im an Bingtheist. That means I don’t believe in the binge structure, I believe you should have weekly episodes not watch them all at once , but on the other hand im impatient but I agree weekly Keeps it relevant

[nova mango]

Remember TAWOG? Well it was really relevant and awsome everyone loved it.....then someone bought CN (I forget who) and released everything at once.....now it's not all that relevant

[lofty prairie]

I made up bingtheist btw lol

[lofty prairie]

Buddy do I ever remember it

[nova mango]

I'm gonna guess yes, anyway it was weekly then suddenly full season dropped and now no one cares at all

[lofty prairie]

Fair point

[nova mango]

Yeah....weekly is best overall

[lofty prairie]

What have you thought of the show so far? Every time Quintius opens his mouth it’s a banger line. Your thoughts on the episodes?

[nova mango]

Absolutely peak

[lofty prairie]

Roger Maxson line made every Male fan tear up

[nova mango]

The way they did The Legion, like the original Ceasare could've died any possible way, they could've tried to bring his body back to Legion territory but could've gotten stuck from NCR, House or even BOS and then noticed the thing in his pocket, at least that's what I like to think

Mr. House calling it early saying The Legion probably are or will be at war with each other and he completely called it

That also shows his perception and how smart he truly is and that he keeps well tabs on all the other factions and not just the strip itself

[lofty prairie]

Yeah

Mr house reveal will be fire. I mean reveal as in him post war.

[nova mango]

So true

[lofty prairie]

Also the Victor tweaking out was funny “Hhhowd-y par-tn-er”

[nova mango]

Well that securitron clearly had a ton of issues

[lofty prairie]

Yeah

[nova mango]

Low intelligence curior be like: pulls random wires out

it works now

[strong pine]

and here I was expecting it ot be a crosby worship cult

[dusky flicker]

i dont get why people are worried the ncr is gonna be just a joke forever
wasn’t there like ncr power armor in the trailer, and in the latest episode the squirrel guy’s trying to contact a brigade or something

[nova mango]

Battalion

And it may seem that way rn, but I have a feeling that'll change + I'd like to think they still have the other city, the Mojave has always been hard for the NCR and with Shady Sands gone it makes sense that they're weak especially in the Mojave of all places

[plush quest]

What are the chances Viktor is still working for House? Maybe House sent him to the Rangers in the hills with hopes that he’d do his dirty work and weaken the remaining Legion and/or the NCR

He’s also likely keeping tabs on his old pre-war acquaintance

[frosty wolf]

Tbh, I don’t think episode 3 is the last we see of the NCR. I think we might get more coming if those leaked behind the scenes have something to say about it

[nova mango]

I'm just waiting to see the NCR kick Legonairy ass

[cyan bison]

https://imgur.com/a/dKLIvsw

[nova mango]

That's really cute, I love it

[autumn jay]

Was Helios one the building next to novac? Or the other building in episode 3? There’s two buildings in season that looks like helios one

[slim night]

It looked to be Area 51 tbh. AR-51 was seen on the Hangar.

[autumn jay]

Ok because Helios is next to novac in the game. So I figured that would be Helios one

[slim night]

Nah, I don’t think it was supposed to be either of them. I think it’s completely separate and just Area 51.

[autumn jay]

So then what was the building next to novic?

[slim night]

I have no idea

[indigo trellis]

I thought it was Helios

[plush quest]

||Maximus killed a Knight last season. A Paladin this season. Perhaps an Elder next season?||

[dull saffron]

he didnt kill Titus, he just allowed him to die

[slim night]

Definitely not. An actual Hangar with AR-51 on it and the UFO with the frozen alien and alien tech is a dead-giveaway.

[red forge]

Maximus declined Titus's demand for a stimpak/heal because of the way he (Titus) was treating him (Maximus).

[limpid edge]

That paladin deserved everything he got from Maximus. Whether or not it starts a war remains to be seen.

[strong pine]

yes those 2 survuving NCR look like they could kick a legionary mule|| but they would likely need much help||

[strong pine]

we can hope

[strong pine]

can look forward to the forensic evaluation of the body - killed by his own pet super sledge - didn't know he was that agile - maybe we need to add a warning label

[austere iris]

I'm only learning now that Maculay Culkin made an appearance in the second season

[frosty wolf]

How did you not know that?

He was in the news and trailers for it

[nova mango]

They simply didn't see any of it probably, to avoid spoilers

[strong pine]

"Raider Alone??"

[lofty prairie]

I can do you one better, people knew already from the back of Caesar’s head in the trailer that it was him cuz they saw his ears and the fallout fanbase matched it to Maculay ears

[strong pine]

guess this means that Kaysar has a|| chronically broken alarm clock||

[autumn jay]

So did I

[lilac sequoia]

Victor is an AI designed by House

and we know Victor is used to spy, especially on special individuals like the courier

Plus Victor is incredibly contradicting. He says his memory is shot but then remembers rangers in the hills that conveniently leads Cooper somewhere for help. Which hes known for doing in the games

[serene aurora]

season 2 almost makes you wish for a nv remake

[orchid lake]

He's totally lying to Cooper

[lilac sequoia]

obv

[orchid lake]

Now what I think happened though

[orchid lake]

Is the Courier did kill Mr House, but he had an AI "backup" as teased in a kind of weird teaser for the next episode which hinted at that.

[serene aurora]

hes always lying

maybe not in the games fully

but thats why they should make a remake

[orchid lake]

Omg I have a theory

Xander is an Enclave spy sent to covertly retrieve the Cold Fusion tech

Because for one, It's super suspicious that he was alone, didn't even have PA with his rank insignia, and knew how to pilot a Vertibird and was so outwardly genocidal, also, even in F04 the BoS doesn't target non feral ghouls and hell, Danse even wants you to help Billy who's also a ghoul kid.

Also, the biggest giveaway is that during the securitron fight scene they played the Star Spangled Banner, you know, the anthem of the United States of America! They made a very deliberate choice with that song

[versed path]

Viktor isn't just one securitron, similar to Yes man, he can just upload himself into different securitrons

If you kill viktor when you first meet him in good springs, he just comes back in a different body

[versed path]

The Enclave at this point in time is nothing but remnants.

Raven rock is destroyed, the oilrig is gone

The mobile platform, too.

Him being an enclave spy, and especially that young, doesn't make too much sense to me. A synth is a more likely option

[indigo turret]

Who’s anticipating the new episode this week?

[orchid lake]

Incorrect

[versed path]

I don't count the creation club as canon

[orchid lake]

They've been shown with a fully operational research base somewhere which even has a working train system which is delivering stuff from elsewhere which means they have a main base somewhere, very likely Chicago as mentioned by ED-E

[orchid lake]

It is cannon though? Specifically the stuff added to the base game, otherwise Bethesda would've said something

Most of it is not cannon though, just the Enclave stuff added in the NG update

[frosty wolf]

Lying by omission likely

[edgy meteor]

Where can I download the official Bethesda launcher?

[sullen kiln]

It no longer exists

If you owned games through Bethesda.net, they can be transferred to a Steam account.

[lofty prairie]

All CC and creations are both canon and not canon. Thats how I view it.

For instance the Daniel remnant creation is just as much canon as anything else in vanilla fallout but unless made by Bethesda (And not Bethesda endorsed ) it cant be 100% canon until mention or not

[lofty prairie]

Im sorry imo the Synth theory is just dumb, not calling you dumb however I just think it has no basis other than oh he has same last name.

[lofty prairie]

They had a huge base in season one

If that’s remnants they sure as hell have a lot for a remnant group

[versed path]

Was never my theory

[versed path]

Im geniunely stupid oh my god bro LOL.

[lofty prairie]

Oh Ik but theres others who wholeheartedly believe this is the truth. There no basis nor evidence for it.

It’s just a really silly theory.

[lofty prairie]

It was the place Wilzig escaped from

With those guys with the white helmets

[versed path]

Yeah I entirely forgot

[orchid lake]

Lmao

But yes, the Enclave are alive and well

[versed path]

i geniunely forgot about it bro

[cunning rock]

Looks to me like TV is trying to Easter egg everything from the games, so we might see a courier with an eye-bot sidekick

[strong pine]

or a funny looking poker chip

[stray granite]

All CC should be viewed as non canon,just like atomic shop.

But don't worry,Enclave in Fallout 3 is logically can't lose to Brotherhood,Brotherhood just got plot armor(of course,Bethesda like Brotherhood),and in every Bethesda game plot writing,Enclave have to lose.The Brotherhood in capital wasteland already mentioned they feared Enclave and cound't beat them,that's from npcs' words.T45,laser rifle,don't even stand a chance fighting against X02 and plasma rifle,besides Enclave got vertibirds,that's air-ground operation system.

[lofty prairie]

Devs have said that the CC is both canon and non canon. The Captain cosmos was a creation club thing however in the show a reference was made to it, and it’s fanmade. So it’s possible for others to be aswell, like I said it both is and isnt.

And atom shop is canon

[stray granite]

Atomic shop already said from Dev,is not canon.

Video on yt.

[lofty prairie]

So what Encalve paint isnt or bos paint?

[stray granite]

Don't depend on which paint,the whole shop IS uncanon

https://youtu.be/1Wk3N4sO3RY?si=wtjR1OUXzeBX_OoP

[lofty prairie]

But the CC stuff can be canon

[stray granite]

Easy sample:Hellfire prototype and hellfire enclave paint.

[stray granite]

“can be”,but not must be.

[lofty prairie]

So your a hypocrite you said it wasn’t

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-momoa-chair-popcorn-time-ready-to-party-dis-gon-be-good-gif-24174564

[stray granite]

I personally also think some paints in atomic shop can be canon,because it feet in these universe very well.But offically,not canon.That's already said.

[stray granite]

Lol,or maybe you just too stick to your own words?You even don't want to believe the video i post?

Typical hypocrite guy,block.

[lofty prairie]

I’ll start believing your video once you learn literary skills like spaces after commas.

[stray granite]

Still had problems?Go talk to devs,i'm pretty sure you will convince them

[red forge]

Creation Club is not canon.

Ok so I've come to an understanding that any CC content that is made canon, it's very very little.
But on the same token, I feel people that mistaken what they believe to be canon, is actually just easter egg content.

But just because it's in Creation Club, doesn't mean it's canon. There has to be an authority on who makes that call.

[crisp grail]

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From Cary Gunnar @ Legacy Effects

[woven scaffold]

I want one of those suits.

[stray granite]

Wish we could see Brotherhood wearing T51 in the show,at least for high rank personel like Paladin.

[lilac sequoia]

I feel like this sadly has changed due to just time itself where Brotherhood started to invest more in T-60 instead of T-51’s

[limpid edge]

That was mentioned in one of the early season 1 episodes.

I’m just glad that the “defect” the ghoul talked about didn’t get put into the game.

[frosty wolf]

Maybe it will in a future game

[wet knoll]

If its in the show its canon thats the rule folks so yes nothing is canon from doc or cc mods

Dlc

[red forge]

Well he mentioned it as if it was some sort of surprise to everyone. Would've been a lacklustre reveal had we already known.

[blazing jackal]

How long we got left? I’m itching to see some NCR

[orchid lake]

About like a day maybe?

[strong pine]

maybe its already there and peple are just beginning to test it to see if its really there

[red forge]

So if it releases at the same time as last week, 8.5 hours.

[lilac sequoia]

it always releases like the next day

at least its not a disney+ shows where u have to wait until literally late at night like 6pm

[red forge]

Timezones need to be considered. Your "next day" is not necessarily the same as mine

[lilac sequoia]

well ig u could say "10 hours" or something idk

[red forge]

Last week's episode went live at 7pm Wednesday my time, which for me for THIS week will be in 8 hours and 20 minutes.

[lilac sequoia]

so yea close enough its always the same "time" as every previous episode except first

I kinda hope season 3 they do a "We are releasing first 2 episodes" like most shows do

Ep2 is always like the filler and if not, ep1 is like a filler because its usually tryna remind u what happens

like no matter how good of a show ur editing and pacing. Theres always too much that u kinda just cant cover in an episode that ends in a satisfying resolve.

[red forge]

Season 1 was released in 1 go but was not planned. It just "happened".
Ep 1 of this season released a day early.

[lilac sequoia]

example is the boys. They release the first 2 episodes

[strong pine]

this is Fallout - release one and let #2 escape

[lilac sequoia]

And that show is also a weekly release but they do it because theres a big cast of characters like Fallout and not everyone gets enough screentime to fit

[blazing jackal]

Fellow Aussie?

[red forge]

yep

[lilac sequoia]

Prime example, Episode 2 was mostly Maximus character arc. He was missing the first week and if u liked the maximus arc you'd have to wait. But like i said. It paces better because everyone gets talked about and shares screentime

[crisp grail]

https://x.com/JuiceHead33/status/2008585907486793905

JuiceHead (@JuiceHead33)

@falloutonprime I am so excited for the Anchorage flashbacks

X · Jan 6, 2026, 5:06 PM

[blazing jackal]

Imagine Nate makes an appearance in the flashbacks 😂

[dense granite]

That would be fun

[orchid lake]

That'd be awesome

[red forge]

Him being in a flashback may be more plausible, since it's established he was in the military.

And Nora was a lawyer.

[daring pumice]

What time does the new episode come out?

[red forge]

If it goes live globally at the same time, should be in 3.5 hours.

[icy vortex]

I'm hoping next episode isn't a snoozer like last episode. Lucy needs more than 2 minutes of screen time.

[red forge]

Maximus is a main character. It can't all be Lucy.

Maximus needs his own development.

[icy vortex]

True... just hoping they split it a little more fairly next episode. Not a 88% maximus, 5%ghoul, 5% Lucy and 2% Lucy's father.

[red forge]

I wouldn't gauge that metric based on 1 episode.

3 main characters, all with their own perspectives, so they need their development from time to time.

[strong pine]

we need 78% dogmeat

[red forge]

14/10 bestest boi

[strong pine]

get him his own T-45 dog armor so he can be ||Rin Tin Tin Pal-a-din||

[icy vortex]

I could go for a spin off reality show "A day in the life of Nuka girl"

[lucid mauve]

What do yall think about the countdown?

[lofty prairie]

It’s interesting hard to know what it’s about now. Seen some theories that it’s Fallout 3 remastered drop i hopes so and I see the logic. But it may be a behind the scenes stuff or merch drop.

Maybe a NV remastered announcement who knows

[lucid mauve]

At least it’s a Official page and not a fake IFYKYK

[lofty prairie]

But it’s on amazons page not BGS so I highly doubt it’s game related sadly

It’s probs show related

[lucid mauve]

Yeah😭

Probably a trailer

[lofty prairie]

Yeah

[lofty prairie]

Its most likely season 3 trailer but im hopeing for the sake of my sanity it’s a FO3 remastered

Tbh it’s probs just a countdown to the final episode as thats when it comes out

It’s probs like a world wide stream or smth

[lucid mauve]

I think they will remake both fallout new Vegas and 3 it just matters which comes first

Might as well remake new Vegas so new people can be like “ I seen that place on the show”

[lofty prairie]

OR MAYBE…. Highly unlikely but it’s an announcement of a FO1 remastered who knows. All Ik is something being announced February 4th

[red forge]

Where's the countdown?

[lofty prairie]

On Amazon

[lucid mauve]

https://fallout-s2.amazonstudios.com/?ref_=atv_dp_exp_4968_hb_0_link

[lofty prairie]

On the front page for the Fallout tv show. It’s lock atm, but will unlock February 4th

Atleast we have something to look forward to on Feb 4th other than season finale

[red forge]

So the link is accessible for me, but what's it displayed as on the front page?

[lucid mauve]

Based on what I think I think it’s gonna be other 3-D location

3-D location of the new Vegas strip

[lofty prairie]

Yeah it’s certainly suspicious

[red forge]

ahhh

[lofty prairie]

What I fully think it is is something show related as it’s exclusively on Amazon

[red forge]

It's under "Explore" of the US Prime video site.

[lofty prairie]

Yep

@red forge what’s your take on it

[red forge]

That's not showing for me, but at least this time it's not geo-blocked.

I can access that direct link without issue.

[lofty prairie]

If you want I can dm you the images of it off of Reddit.

[red forge]

No need. I can see it all now. It's just not immediately accessible via the AU site.

[lofty prairie]

So what’s your take on it?

What do you think it is?

[red forge]

It's giving me vibes of looking at the map in a pipboy.

FO4 style.

[lofty prairie]

What could that mean then? What a new location for fallout?

[lucid mauve]

I think it is gonna be los Vegas

[lofty prairie]

Los 🥀🥀🥀

[lucid mauve]

New 😭

[red forge]

It's also giving me point & click game vibes.

[lofty prairie]

Los new 🥀🥀🥀

[lofty prairie]

Hmm interesting

[lucid mauve]

New Vegas Strip

[red forge]

The "Explore 3D Location" stuff doesn't seem to be active yet.

[lucid mauve]

I just did it

[lucid mauve]

Atomic Command

[red forge]

All I get is a "PLEASE STAND BY" still image.

[lucid mauve]

lol

[red forge]

I cannot see any reason yet why that site is not globally available. Maybe just haven't found that reason yet.

Ok so I think I know why... it links to Fallout themed products on Amazon which might be US market exclusive.

Yep, ok, my consensus is it's due to availability of eligible delivery countries of merchandise.

It's looking very US centric.

[red forge]

1 hour to go I suppose.

[reef sage]

Wait wheres this timer?

[red forge]

There's none. I'm basing it off the time it went live last week.

[red forge]

There's a nice little 1 minute flavour video called "You Have Auto-Joined The RobCo Family" on prime.

And ep 4 is live.

We have consistent schedule now.

[lofty prairie]

@red forge is it out now? Im in Australia aswell but can’t find it on Amazon

[red forge]

It's live now yes.

Prime video, not Amazon.

[lofty prairie]

I cannot find it im tweaking

[red forge]

Prime video is its own site.

[lofty prairie]

Thats what I mean prime video

Were is it im genuinely loosing it it’s not there for me

[red forge]

Well try a refresh.

[lofty prairie]

HOT DOG I have it

Thanks bro

[pine minnow]

Genuinely fire so far

Oh.

[pine minnow]

Holy crap

[marble heron]

Maxson is the elder of the East Coast brotherhood the commonwealth. At least it was confirmed

[pine minnow]

Yes

[viscid ice]

I'm really syked about the deathclaws confirmed to be intentional prewar fev bio weapons. Explains why the enclave are so fixated on them and why they're so spread out

[marble heron]

That was something that I completely forgot about. I was like why is there a deathclaw even though it’s set before the bombs dropped. But yeah the enclave sure did love their deathclaws

[wraith solar]

he’s a demon
he’s a devil
a doll!

[pine minnow]

For people who havent seen the episode yet you might wanna censor that

[marble heron]

||Also with the recent episode it’s safe to say that based on potential context. The deathclaws that were at quarry junction likely migrated to surrounding territories including the new Vegas strip which is possibly why there is one and possibly more||

||Interesting how Quintas completely goes all out against Maximus despite Quintas’ vision for a new brotherhood. Also is it directly specified of what his vision is?||

[lilac sequoia]

Quintus wants a brotherhood that is of up most power under a single flag

[marble heron]

Okay that makes sense

[lilac sequoia]

He doesnt like that the BOS is bickering rival chapters or undisciplined soldiers

[abstract pagoda]

Man, I really have to filter out every Brotherhood of Steel scene to enjoy the show. xD

[lofty prairie]

OMG Maxson is alive

Just finished it it’s so good

[lilac sequoia]

So basically Nate/nora either decided BOS ending or Minutemen

[marble heron]

||Yknow I assumed it was the commonwealth BOS that shot down the other Prydwen looking ship but guess we were all wrong it’s basically a civil war just without the commonwealth||

Unless if maxson shows up then that would definitely be quite a surprise

[lofty prairie]

I think the commonwealth will show up

[lofty prairie]

Yeah as Maxson is dead in institute ending

[lilac sequoia]

|| I believe Maxson will show up in season 3 ||

[lofty prairie]

Ngl this was fire

[lilac sequoia]

Theres no other real development for the brotherhood besides Quintus needing to get humbled

[lofty prairie]

The commonwealth have to show up

[lofty prairie]

Liberty prime shows up omg can u imagine

[lilac sequoia]

so they changed the entrance location for the strip

[lofty prairie]

Cannot believe they said Elder Maxson. It’s so great the Easter eggs from FO4.

[lofty prairie]

Theres multiple entrances is there not

[lilac sequoia]

Those entrances are all apart of the outskirts of the strip. The one they took would be the one u go through freeside

[lofty prairie]

So what if they changed the entrance lol

[lilac sequoia]

thats why im kinda bummed about it

a lot of new vegas in the show has changed in geography that idk its just

sure not a big deal but like at the same time its not hard to miss

and its not because “new vegas in game is downscaled” its just so weird to not understand a consistent route ig

Think of like Lord of the Rings a fictional world and they always go either right or left depending on the camera focus. Its just genius the way they shot that film to show the audience a believable route to Mordor or other places.

[red forge]

Dude, spoiler it.

But wow, there's a lot to unpack from that episode.

1 thing that got to me though... ||all the Chinese soldiers, within that proximity range, couldn't manage shoot Cooper in the face since it was so exposed... unless they were going to take him as a POW for interrogation.||

[steep raven]

This episode could’ve benefitted from being a little longer

[red forge]

Yep I agree on that. Could've gone for a little longer.

[near birch]

||Did someone put a radiation bomb in the strip or something||

[red forge]

The interesting thing I'm finding about ||the Deathclaw. They have the head and horns shape like Balrog, and the rawr of a Rancor.||

[near birch]

||I think he has a plot armor||

[red forge]

I had that thought initially, until ||those who were shooting at him, revealed themselves, and based on their dialogue, it's now given me the impression they were going to POW him.||

There were ||taking a liking to the power armour, so I think they figured anyone who wears one, probably has intel they are going to want.||

[near birch]

||Yeah Iirc China army tried to reverse engineer power armors but failed||

||An intact power armor and a soldier who was prob given the manual to it was like a precious resouce to them||

[red forge]

It felt satisfying that ||Maximus told Quintus everything of his perspective. In a way it was like us as the audience telling him, that none of it was his own doing, it all "just happened"... but I wonder why he suggested ALL of the kids were ghouls as opposed to only some, or unless he didn't know that some were still human.||

[near birch]

||Fo 76 reference in the bonus clip I've been blessed||

[red forge]

And wow, the ||civil war broke out not because of Xander being killed (although they didn't know that yet), but that the cold fusion core got stolen.||

[red forge]

The ||"TRASH" dog?||

[weak kayak]

He wouldn’t be an Easter egg….

[near birch]

||I prob missed that but I spotted Vendo-tron||

[steep raven]

||The legion unironically seem to be the one big faction left to have the most presence in the area||

[weak kayak]

makes sense tbh

[red forge]

I just noticed that too, along with other things.

[steep raven]

||Hell they obliterated Camp McCarran it seems according to the end credits (Granted it probably went down differently in show canon)||

[weak kayak]

My only thought process would be it’s either Bethesda changing layouts or there’s something about that we don’t know yet

[lilac sequoia]

nah its def the show just changing for the sake of good cinema

[near birch]

||I don't know whether I should be happy or not for knowing that Legion has become a weak tribe but also had some strong influence over NCR after the event of NV||

[red forge]

You know the games aren't going to be to scale?

[lilac sequoia]

yes but new vegas was Downscaled

[red forge]

Here on in game?

If in the show, I don't think they've shown us everything yet.

[weak kayak]

They aren’t really that weak look at the state of other big factions from new vegas

[lilac sequoia]

New vegas is downscaled of a birds eye view of vegas. I’d know because I live there

[red forge]

All we've seen so far is the front gate, and ||an apparent Deathclaw nest.||

[weak kayak]

Disorganised without the original Caesar or Lanius it kinda reminds me of how the mod dust Handled them

[red forge]

And it's best to not compare IRL locations to the game locations for 1:1 faithful adaptation.

[weak kayak]

They reverted mostly into pocket tribes fighting for power

New vegas in general was small if you look at how the game map is most of what we see was freeside and the strip is tiny so they likely cut freeside down if I’m guessing correctly

[red forge]

So furthermore, it looks like we've now seen a ||10mm pistol, and the brief firing of the laser pistol.||

[steep raven]

||I swear maximus had like the only laser weapon in the entire western brotherhood||

[weak kayak]

||kinda want them to bring back laser rifles as the brother hood default weapon||

[red forge]

And good to see ||Quintus was not given more ammo than the game. He didn't seem to have an abnormally excessive magazine capacity based on how many shots he fired.||

[weak kayak]

||Still not a fan of the big rifle from 4 being centre stage as a weapon||

But that’s just me

[red forge]

To me it makes more sense, in a way. A big gun for a "big guy" type soldier in PA.

[plush quest]

||I really enjoyed drugged out Lucy. It brings a fun dimension to her character||

[red forge]

Oh ||she was roided for sure, and good to see they made addiction lore.||

[weak kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/unbothered-moisturized-happy-in-my-lane-focused-gif-13916667847790554983

[red forge]

And ||The Ghoul was really enjoying everything she went through.||

[plush quest]

||100% something irradiated the strip. I don't think it was a regular bomb since we haven't seen any evidence of a crater. Maybe a dirty bomb or a radiation leak||

It's nice to see them bonding

[near birch]

||Didn't some legionaly put a radiation bomb at some ncr out post which did not destroy any building at all||

[plush quest]

||But that wince when she said "They're just ghouls"||

[weak kayak]

||considering the legion used a dirty bomb in the game wouldn’t be surprising if they used one after the dam was lost as a last ditch retaliatory attempt||

[red forge]

Well ||he's sober at the moment, she clearly was not.||

[weak kayak]

I do hope the courier is just chilling at Big MT

[plush quest]

||My NV lore is shoddy but that'd make a lot of sense. Sort of a last hurrah before Eddie went out; attacking the Strip AND Camp McCarren in a bid to solidify his legacy||

[red forge]

||Lucy didn't know half the things she was saying. She was making evident she didn't like it either.||

[near birch]

||Would be funny if she ended up behaving like Fiends||

[weak kayak]

||camp golf being empty is probably the indicator for it granted we saw two of the remnants in the last episode last week maybe they rushed to the strip or McCarren to fend off the legion||

[steep raven]

||Those 3 rangers I feel are gonna come back at some point||

[plush quest]

||Maybe the battalion arrives and that's where Maximus gets his NCR power armor||

[weak kayak]

||also another thing to note the securitron maximus and xander destroyed was a mk2 as the mk2’s had the gruff military screen||

||/so it’s likely the yes man or house ending now are our two contenders for new Vegas’s ending||

[plush quest]

||I really loved how ready and willing the Yosemite Elder was to stab the Coronado Elder||

[dusky flicker]

[plush quest]

||I honestly hope she comes out on top of the Western BoS Civil War||

[steep raven]

||The subtitles gave her a name iirc||

||She seemed to be the one elder apart from Quintus they focused on the most anyways||

[red forge]

Well ||they just all declared war on each other once the news broke out that the cold fusion thing was stolen, and the grand canyon elder thought one of the other 2 had something to do with it.||

[dusky flicker]

zoo wee mama!!!!

[plush quest]

||The Coronado Elder is dead and the San Fernando Elder is locked in his war room so he'll probably survive. Although it looked like it was their airship that got shot down in the last wide shot||

[red forge]

||Well... he didn't look entirely dead. Mutilated, and perhaps now lost the ability to talk.||

[plush quest]

||My two cents say that the Yosemite Elder will beat out the Grand Canyon but switch sides again and re-ally with Quintus to chase down the stolen Cold Fusion||

[plush quest]

that'd be a neat ironic twist of fate

[dusky flicker]

i effing love this show

[plush quest]

||I'm imagining the perspective of a new viewer wondering why the hell a dinosaur showed up in the beginning and end of this episode||

[dusky flicker]

hehehhehehehehehehe

[plush quest]

Great episode for fans. Likely very confusing for new viewers

Like why were all the ghouls elvis impersonators?

[red forge]

Yeah the whole thing gave me ||Jurassic Park|| vibes.

[dusky flicker]

||i genuinely didn’t think they had the cajones to show pre war deathclaw||
idk how anyone can say “todd” hates the old lore or doesn’t respect it when like, thats kind of a deep cut

if the worst lore discrepancies this show has is a contrivance here or there or moving stuff on a map like the games have to then idc im cheesing ear to ear

[plush quest]

||a pre war deathclaw trained to hunt down the Chinese most likely too!||

[steep raven]

||Also, “Future Enterprise Venture”, FEV eh?||

[red forge]

That's why I feel people need to "get real" and understand it's not possible to do 1:1 adaptations.

[plush quest]

a 1:1 adaptation of NV would be ass anyway, cinematagraphically speaking

[dusky flicker]

this is as good as it gets imo
everyone involved seems like they really love the franchise
and the show backs itself up
like my biggest complaint is idk how hank got a ||nuke unnoticed into the heart of the NCR||

[plush quest]

although I hate how many character scenes feel like they're taking place in a weird reality space where nobody's allowed to touch each other or the set

[red forge]

||Yeah curious as to why it didn't decide to gorge on Cooper's face. Could it be the Anchorage Deathclaws since it's DURING the war?||

I suppose ||it didn't consider him a threat anymore.||

[dusky flicker]

also i think a lot of people are ignoring the fact the show is addressing why the bethesda games have felt so underdeveloped societally despite the further settings in the future
its kind of ingenius imo

[steep raven]

I do have problem with the pacing too every now and then tbh

[dusky flicker]

i haven’t had an issue with it this season

[red forge]

||The courier of said nuke was drugged up. Looks like he lost his mind.||

[dusky flicker]

season 1 is hard to restart lowk

[simple blaze]

The ||King is dead||

[plush quest]

||My read is that's an American deployed Deathclaw under Enclave command. I can't think of any other organization capable of even producing one pre-war.||

[red forge]

That's why ||I didn't say it was pre-war, because that flashback was not pre-war, it WAS the war.||

[plush quest]

||Very good call btw. This is likely where we'll get more info about deathclaws and thaddeus's mutation||

[simple blaze]

Now what the fresh hell is a ||death claw doing in 2077?||

[dusky flicker]

||deathclaws were super soldiers made by the us govt maybe enclave||

[red forge]

Hold on, ||that scene might not be in 2077.||

[simple blaze]

True, my mistake.

[steep raven]

One could argue that fallout 4 despite its flaws also explains the “underdevelopment” issue a bit

[plush quest]

||What makes you think it wasn't Operation Anchorage? Charlie Whiteknife was there and everything||

[dusky flicker]

||they thrive in the wasteland, and at first were rare (accept in appalachia holy shift) but likely had a jurassic park life finds a way moment and turned from myth into a feared predator||

[plush quest]

Cooper was in LA when the bombs dropped.|| I don't think he'd get sent to Anchorage while he's out chasing his wife and kid||

[simple blaze]

I just can’t get over ||losing my|| ||boy The King||

[steep raven]

Like the CPG being massacred before it could even get started

[dusky flicker]

wellma wellama weeeellll its fallout amazon tiiiiiiime 🎶

[red forge]

I don't know that lore so that's why I didn't really quote it. All I was indicating is that ||the flashback is not pre or post war.||

[dusky flicker]

its erm pre war erm i think erm

[plush quest]

The Sino-American war has been going on for a while. The Great War only lasted 2 hours

[dusky flicker]

different war from The war

pranked china by obviously blowing up one of their oil rigs
we didnt accept we obviously did that
peak ragebait- china invaded alaska

[red forge]

Yes but I'm trying to not confuse the bomb drop as "the" war.

[plush quest]

The US and China weren't at the brink of war, they were actively deep into one with the Americans closing in on Beijing

[dusky flicker]

most people i think would get “anchorage”
its like the only context that word makes sense in in fallout lol

[red forge]

I feel we're arguing the same thing.

[plush quest]

Sorry I didn't mean to argue. Just wanted to mention these things

[dusky flicker]

scratches chin

[red forge]

No I mean I think we're both saying the same thing.

Just different ways of saying so.

[plush quest]

It was a war, just not The war

[red forge]

Exactly.

[viscid ice]

When people say prewar they refer to pre great war ie the two hour war that occured during the bomb fall in October 2077. So by the commonly accepted use of the term anchorage is prewar

[dusky flicker]

||why do people think maximus will wear the ncr power armor||

[viscid ice]

Makes sense for his character

[red forge]

That's why I'm indicating the ||flashback is not pre or post war, it's "in" war.||

[dusky flicker]

but its pre war

[viscid ice]

But it is pre war

[dusky flicker]

different war boss

[viscid ice]

It isn't the 2 hour great war in which the world ends thus pre war

[plush quest]

tbf that scene takes place from prewar Cooper Howard's perspective, so to him it was the war

[dusky flicker]

“in” war is season 1 bombs falling

[red forge]

Wait so the sino-american war is not considered as part of the great war?

[viscid ice]

No it's the resource war

[dusky flicker]

sino american i thought

resource wars was europe and arabia (?)

[plush quest]

The resource wars was a sepearte event that happened before the sino-american war which took out most of Europe and the Middle East

[red forge]

Ok so perhaps my choice of using "THE" is what's causing all this confusion. All I was trying to establish is that it was "war" regardless.

It was in "a" war.

It didn't seem pre-war to me.

[viscid ice]

Coulda sworn it was apart of the resource war conflict but I can be wrong

[dusky flicker]

its like the same causally but different wars for seperation
like america blows up a chinese oil rig during the resource wars, which starts another war the sino american war, the tension of which causes The Great War, which is The war because it shaped like, the setting

[viscid ice]

Your not understanding fallout terminology

[crisp grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1458401907608653947/image.png?ex=695f821e&is=695e309e&hm=bff359ec82d05cad7a1542ea66c52b79a79f1d19cc62368c589a63de3ae077a3&

I REALLY had to laugh at Dogmeat's reaction- very Scooby Doo " this is a bad idea, Shaggy"

[viscid ice]

Pre war means pre bombs falling hence the scene being prewar

[red forge]

I really to get around to playing the first games... I've started FO1, but only like 10 minutes into it or whatever.

[plush quest]

semantics are dumb, can we move on?

[red forge]

Ok I thought the bomb drop was what ended the war.

[dusky flicker]

you don’t have to actually play fallout 1 😭
ts is so hard to play

[viscid ice]

Wrong it's peak you should play it

[dusky flicker]

playing being the key word

cus that gameplay is rough

[red forge]

I was of the understanding that anything following the drop of the bombs was considered post-war.

[dusky flicker]

YES

[plush quest]

||do you think the NCR are moving camp because The Ghoul gave away their position, or are they actually meeting up with that "battalion?"||

[viscid ice]

It's really not y'all just don't know how to play turned based games cause it was a dead genre for a minute till baulders gate brought it back

[dusky flicker]

yall?

[red forge]

It's not rough, just a product of its time, which would've been quite advanced.

[simple blaze]

I love that Lucy is ||addicted to buffout now||, she’s ||LITERALLY|| me.

[dusky flicker]

me n who 😭

[viscid ice]

You, all as in regards to people who say the gameplay is rough

[dusky flicker]

so rough cus i didn’t grow up w those games

[viscid ice]

It's not aged perfectly but to say it's rough is silly considering other games of its type at the time

[dusky flicker]

i mean it is, its very chance based and janky and so is the traversal

[dusky flicker]

so what

[crisp grail]

mate, im older than dirt and grew up on older games and i know what you mean, it is hard to play isometric now - but its worth watching a video summary on Fallout 1, its very interesting

[dusky flicker]

when did i say fallout 1’s was irrelevant

[simple blaze]

I’ve watched a few video summaries and they’re bangin’

[plush quest]

it's honestly a great direction to take her character. adds a whole new dimension and Ella Purnell seems to be having a lot of fun with it

[dusky flicker]

i just said its hard to play and rough chill

[crisp grail]

Yeah- Lucy being addicted was not something i knew I needed- and Ella played it great

[dusky flicker]

i adore the cutscenes

[red forge]

All this being said about Fallout 1, there's a fan remake in the works of it with FO4 engine.

[simple blaze]

I think it’s funny as hell and can’t wait to how bad it gets

[dusky flicker]

that’d be neat

[plush quest]

She's great at playing manic drugged out characters I guess

[simple blaze]

But I can’t believe she ||killed The King||

[crisp grail]

Cooper's smile and amusment at a very stoned Lucy would be my exact response too

[red forge]

||The Ghoul didn't seem to complain.||

[plush quest]

She voiced Jinx in Arcane and you can hear some of the crazy in there

[dusky flicker]

if the ghoul is the player character thematically, lucy is the companion that starts fights and alerts enemies to you

[red forge]

But yeah, it's pretty funny now, that ||the King is now shown to be dead.||

[simple blaze]

She might have did ||him|| a favor, but what happened to Rex is what worries me, especially since almost everyone inside ||The Strip is dead.||

[red forge]

No she's not or wasn't stoned, she's roided.

[dusky flicker]

only thing idg about fallout 1 is the masters plan
like i think the only explanation for the master not finding the 30’s in the show is cus vault tec didnt want him to? or he just didnt literally find them?
idk

it doesnt bother me lol!!! its just like the ||sneaking a nuke into shady sands|| thing like, well okay

[plush quest]

If my friend tried drugs for the first time and was really enjoying it I'd smile like that too. Imagine if he had to play trip sitter

[crisp grail]

telling us the strip is|| irradiated|| but not telling us why is hillarious

I almost wish they would of ended the episode with that old voiceover "Tune in Next week for the stunning conclusion"

[plush quest]

The Ghoul was be a TERRIBLE presence during a bad trip

[simple blaze]

oh god, Mr.New Vegas.

Please GODD

[dusky flicker]

i have teery

legion dirty bombing strip……

[plush quest]

it was actually really nice of him to share his buffout

[dusky flicker]

like uhm that townnn searchlightt

[plush quest]

oh is that what happened? I never went there because radiation and ghouls scared me as a kid

[dusky flicker]

yessss

[plush quest]

except Raul, Raul was cool

[simple blaze]

I love that instead of actually trying to get clean she hit the gas on the ||buffout||, watch her down the whole thing eventually

It’s going to be glorious

[dusky flicker]

i thought the comedy was gonna be her in withdrawal not her tweaking

[simple blaze]

Nah, our girl hit the GAS, like a TRUE wastelander!

[dusky flicker]

i always make it a point to take drugs in my playthrough

[simple blaze]

As a fellow ||buffout|| enjoyer, I approve.

[crisp grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1458401907608653947/image.png?ex=695f821e&is=695e309e&hm=bff359ec82d05cad7a1542ea66c52b79a79f1d19cc62368c589a63de3ae077a3&

Dogmeat did not like that

[plush quest]

I'm surprised Bethesda and Amazon approved so much pro-drug messaging. Like it's always been in the games but I thought corporations wanted to avoid that kind of stuff

[simple blaze]

Dogmeat is a good boi

[plush quest]

Like it rarely turns out well for the drug dealers in most Fallout games

[viscid ice]

Sorry for getting on your case bout classic fallout just urks me when people say it's rough when it's really just a different genre of rpg compared to first person RPGs which are what most people think of these days. Turn based isometric role playing games are just inherently harder for people to wrap their heads around if their used to first person RPGs. Even so the genre has come back in a big way these last few years especially in the Indy scene like with atom rpg or even fo2 modding like fallout Sonora and resurrection which is some of the best fallout media out there in terms of quality . I full heartedly believe that while I enjoy modern fallout I think a return to its roots would be fantastic and I crave some kind of spiritual successor series

[simple blaze]

If only Starfield could have been like that…

[dusky flicker]

especially in the casinos while i put 1000 on the number 21 on roulette while hitting jet while boone watches on in horror

[simple blaze]

I did so much Psycho in front of Cass to prove a POINT

[dusky flicker]

“oh you’re a doctor huh arcade? ya like drugs?? i i like drugs-“

[plush quest]

It'd be pretty based if they make it a commentary on the irl opioid crisis. Like instead of addictol she goes to rehab therapy for it

[lilac sequoia]

playing classic Fallout is unapproachable for new people but when you actually understand its a very simple game

I wish maybe Bethesda could upscale it and give quality of life changes for it

[viscid ice]

I a hundred percent ageee

[lilac sequoia]

Like how theres a new Doom every other year

[simple blaze]

AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, as long as you’re having fun, what’s the harm? In fallout, for legal reasons I’m required to say that.

[crisp grail]

we're on a side quest

[red forge]

Hold on... the problem is that Black Isle and Obsidian are not Bethesda companies.

id Software now is, in regards to Doom.

[dusky flicker]

so is the ghoul taking the Fix or is he taking jet

[lilac sequoia]

like once i understood how to get my build running. Getting T-51 and a Turbo Plasma caster has been the peak of my fallout experience

[simple blaze]

Everything!

[red forge]

Interplay is also not a Bethesda company.

[lilac sequoia]

whats the point everyones owned by Microsoft anyway

[dusky flicker]

the one that keeps him from feral

[lilac sequoia]

everyones got one boss and its daddy micro box

[simple blaze]

A very small drop in a very large bucket of drugs.

[lilac sequoia]

more cod for the slop train

[plush quest]

Bethesda is however the official owners of the IP. Real question here because idk, who would be there to sue them if they did a modernized rerelease of the classics?

[red forge]

Perhaps it's a question for Bethesda Softworks, as opposed to BGS.

[viscid ice]

Personally can't go wrong with the alien pistol and hardened t51b but the pistol is a random drop so it's best to use the plasma rifle unless you find it yeah it's a lot of fun,

[lilac sequoia]

Well obviously bethesda games isnt gonna remaster a CRPG they probably have no time to do while doing TES6

[viscid ice]

Gambling builds are also really peak

[lilac sequoia]

they’d have to collab with another studio like Oblivion did

[lofty prairie]

More like a reference

[red forge]

The point I'm making is that 1 is the publisher, the other is the developer. They don't both do the same thing.

[viscid ice]

Yeah no way they'd ever remaster a game themselves again after oblivion worked out so well

[lilac sequoia]

i just love the music and the vibes. Combat is fun with how random and the death animations are a blast

[lofty prairie]

So the institute ending is non canon as Arthur dies in that ending

[lilac sequoia]

pretty much

[plush quest]

Neither is the Railroad ending

[lilac sequoia]

im sure the 4-5 fans are crying

[lofty prairie]

Yep good riddance to the UNICEF toaster rights advocates

[red forge]

Isn't the thing about Maxson still only implied?

[lofty prairie]

😂

[lilac sequoia]

To be fair Gen 3 synths are just Vat grown humans, they arnt robots

[lofty prairie]

Nope

[lilac sequoia]

but i do not like railroad

[plush quest]

So it's either Minutemen or BoS, whichever one it is determines if they have Liberty Prime or not

[red forge]

So what is being used as confirmation?

[viscid ice]

I think no ending but unified minutemen commonwealth and the bos ending is canon which is a little disappointing cause one of those two involves the other commonwealth local techno fascists being in charge

[lofty prairie]

Yosemite’s elder says tell Elder Maxson to leave us alone if she helped the commonwealth

[lilac sequoia]

this show is like 9 years later of fo4

[lofty prairie]

She mentions Arthur Maxson by name

[red forge]

That's not confirmation, it's about what is being told and conveyed.

[lilac sequoia]

how would news of Maxson’s death be this slow while also the east sending reinforcements for the west

[plush quest]

Arthur Maxon is 29 by this time

[red forge]

Ok I had an impression this might be the case.

[lilac sequoia]

like who do u think is sending those reinforcements. its maxson lol

[lofty prairie]

Yeah point blank said his name which was a cool reference lol

[weak kayak]

I thought he was mid thirties by 4 lol

[lofty prairie]

I’d you not watch the episode?

[lofty prairie]

Early thirties by the show

[plush quest]

he's literally not even drinking age by the time of fo4

[crisp grail]

dirty thirties

[viscid ice]

No he's only 20 something I think. he just has that shadow the hedgehog edge to him

[lofty prairie]

In my country he is

[red forge]

I take everything as implied, because sometimes dialogue can be slip of the tongue or similar.

[lilac sequoia]

he was like 20 in fo4. The shows like 9 years so hes 29-30

dudes not even old yet looks like he ages 20x

[lofty prairie]

Oh ok well hes alive an well

[viscid ice]

Shoulda called him the like average aged instead of elder lol

[lofty prairie]

He wasn’t like twenty he was twenty im pretty sure Danse says he is

[plush quest]

well maybe not well, they're up against it back home according to Harkness

[lofty prairie]

But man he looks late 50s

[crisp grail]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-di-caprio-dancing-happy-birthday-funny-dance-excited-gif-8053848974950340660

[lilac sequoia]

I say “like” because i have a habit typing to be doubtful its not that i dont know that

[lofty prairie]

Ok mb

[lilac sequoia]

no worries bro its all gud

[lofty prairie]

Danse and a few others also mention hes the youngest elder ever to be made

[plush quest]

I'm surprised that airships were used for war during the Anchorage conflict

[lofty prairie]

Which is a feat in and of itself own he also took out a deathclaw with a combat knife when he was like 10

[red forge]

Furthermore some folk have taken the "trust me bro" approach when it comes to using things exhibited/said as "fact" when establishing lore.

[lilac sequoia]

Liberty Prime season 3 “trust me bro”

[red forge]

So generally until I see absolutes, or understand the happenings better, I take it as heavily implied.

[lofty prairie]

But she says his name idk what your getting at

[crisp grail]

one thing i learned from this episode- is to immedietly scrap or leave behind any T-45 I find

[lilac sequoia]

I hate when arguments end up into an english grammar debate when piecing together dialogue

[red forge]

That's because I didn't fully understand it.

[lofty prairie]

Ok but do know Maxson is alive cuz he was mentioned

Just wanna make that clear

[red forge]

Yep fine.

[lilac sequoia]

like im sorry the writers are not gonna try be smart and play on words. Good writing isnt always a thought experiment yk

[lofty prairie]

Anyways so yeah a good episode I love how Lucy’s not taking the piss anymore and is becoming more wastelanderish

[lilac sequoia]

like idk how many times people assume Xander is a synth

[lofty prairie]

Imagine healing yourself with buff out I only use buff out to counter my effects of overemcuberd in survival

[crisp grail]

in the fallout world though, i will say, it is worth asking yourself about the reliable narrator - not in this case but if a drug addict in the middle of the desert tells the character something, it doesnt mean its true

[plush quest]

the west coast elders seem to think Harkness was alive as well. I see what @red forge is saying. But in this case I think it's pretty likely Arthur Maxon is alive and leading the Commonwealth chapter

[lilac sequoia]

Like okay lets say he is. Who cares

[lofty prairie]

It’s so annoying just cuz he has the same last name. Those people who think that genuinely have rocks in their skull.

[lilac sequoia]

Like what importance does that have on the plot rn

[plush quest]

my hot take was that Paladin Harkness was gay married to synth Harkness

[lilac sequoia]

Idc if hes a synth or not. if he is cool but it literally doesnt do anything

[lofty prairie]

Or yk adopted a child

[lofty prairie]

Yeah exactly

[lilac sequoia]

I will say this season lately has a lot of Fallout 4 plotlines a bit

[plush quest]

mostly just references to the commonwealth chapter really

[lofty prairie]

And im loving it lol

[lilac sequoia]

the Control chip is very synth like with how gen 3 synths are basically Vat humans with chips in their heads. Im not saying they r synths but its a similar play on the idea

[lofty prairie]

If I see Arthur Maxson in the show it’s over im on hands and knees bowing to god Todd

[plush quest]

we did see a laser musket in season one. and radio freedom tunes

[lilac sequoia]

Like in fo4 if u remember the synth that broke into the Commonwealth government or whatever and killed everyone

[lofty prairie]

Not really tbh. It’s entirely different but I won’t get into it.

[plush quest]

different tech

[lilac sequoia]

this is similar to the events of shadysands how the enemy planted an unknown entity to screw everyone up

[lofty prairie]

Yeah it’s different tech entirely that doesn’t function remotely the same

[red forge]

1 thing I found interesting is that ||Maximus definitely does not follow the BoS doctrine. Xander called the kids abominations, as did Quintus, but Maximus said "Ghoul". Quintus seemed to refuse to want to hear the word.||

[lofty prairie]

Ones a robot programmed to do things and the other is mind control it’s not the same

[plush quest]

if anything the synth component gives sentience where the mind control chips takes it

[lofty prairie]

It’s interesting Maximus used a laser pistol

[lilac sequoia]

its not ofc but its kinda like a poem that rearranges words

[lofty prairie]

Yeah

[lilac sequoia]

Like how in Fallout 1 u find the water chip. in fo2 u find the GECK. The Villain in every fallout game wants to wipe everyone out and its either by Unity or Genocide

[plush quest]

the whole point of synths is that they're beyond machines, they have human-like thoughts and desires... which is undersold by how much expressive AI we've seen from the likes of Codsworth and Captain Ironsides

[red forge]

Synths don't know that they're synths.

[lilac sequoia]

The Gen 3 Synths are basically replicants from bladerunner

[lofty prairie]

I also wonder if the West coast sees the sole survivors (If the BOS ending is canon) title as sentinel as any meaning as the title is exclusively used on the east and was indoctrinated by Lyons

[lilac sequoia]

Xander saying the commonwealth is in a weird place either gives me the idea the Minutemen are battling the BOS or idk some new faction

[plush quest]

I really like the role of Lancer, the BoS airforce pilots

fits with the whole knights theme and sounds cool

[lofty prairie]

BOS pilots in fallout 4 are squires with goggles you’d be better flying blind then how those guys fly holy.

[plush quest]

Lancer Captain Kells was pretty cool. a hard ass but a neat character

[lofty prairie]

He made people clean the predwyns outer shell lol

[plush quest]

I liked his hat

[lofty prairie]

Yeah it’s a shame the only proper way to get it is to loot it off his body

I hope it’s canon that codsworth got assultron legs. If you have a mr handy body and put assaultron legs on it it’s a sight to behold

It’s so goofy looking

[crisp grail]

i need more Fisto

[red forge]

That depends whether or not we get to see the sole survivor, and how we see them.

[crisp grail]

[bold copper]

Finished latest episode. The show so far is mid. 5 different storylines being pushed so development of them is lacking. As soon as you start to get interested in the event they switch to next group.

[plush quest]

We'll likely never see a live action depiction of any of our player characters

[red forge]

Have you guys not seen Game of Thrones? They used that same hype/suspense building.

[plush quest]

that's been kind of a problem in these later episodes. The first two seemed better at balancing multiple plot lines

that being said, I'm disappointed we didn't get any pre war Cooper Howard espionage scenes

I'm waiting for his trip to Vegas with his wife where he'll meet "Mr. House" and maybe Mr. House too

[crisp grail]

downside of ensemble shows

[red forge]

5 different storylines? wow, imagine having a show that's only 3 stories.

[crisp grail]

Phase 2 is gonna be interesting

[plush quest]

Someone mentioned "Future Enterprise Venture" might reference FEV

[bold copper]

Season 1 was 3 storylines. Now we have 2 vault stories, 1 brotherhood which nay be branching to 2, lucy and ghoul, and then hank’s story.

[red forge]

Season 1 established the premise. Now there's more plot to cover.

They can't stick to just 3 stories the entire time unless that's the sole cast.

[plush quest]

episode 1 and 2 did a better job at balancing multiple plots focusing mainly on 2-3 at a time

we didn't hear from Maximus or the Brotherhood at all in ep 1 iirc

[red forge]

These sorts of branching plot arcs set up later plot lines.

That's the point of diverging from just the 3 main characters.

[lofty prairie]

People when a show does show things

[bold copper]

The problem with with setting up a plot in the future you need to make people invested in wanting to see that plot.
If you cant invest time in the previous stories the final becomes bland.
Its basic story telling.

[crisp grail]

its an esemble show .. its just how these things go

[plush quest]

It's a minor nitpick for me. It's just surprising how it happened to coincide so fast. Some of the plotlines are totally and thematically seperated from each other

[red forge]

Well.. yeah... we're invested in it now. What makes you think otherwise?

[bold copper]

I will keep watching. Though it is mid i am enjoying it

[mighty geyser]

I honestly don’t know how to feel after watching ep 4

[red forge]

For all we know, with how things with shows go, a supporting character could well become a main character, and often times enough they're involved with sub plots that set the way for a major plot.

[lofty prairie]

lol I read a comment not yours but this reminded me a Alledged OG fans said that if you like fallout 3,NV 4 76 and the show your not a true fallout fan and they don’t want you those kind to talk to them

[red forge]

I'd certainly like to know more than just what Lucy, The Ghoul, and Maximus are doing.

[bold copper]

Fallout 3 will always be my favorite but i like them all. They all have faults but are enjoyable games

[mighty geyser]

Spoilers for the beginning of ep 4 ||they didn’t really tell us why a Deathclaw was on the pre war Alaskan front, so everything is still a little confusing to me I guess, hopefully they’ll make that clear later in the season||

[plush quest]

||Imagine how a new fan must've felt seeing a random dinosaur show up at the beginning and end of the episode||

[red forge]

They can't tell us everything up front...

[mighty geyser]

It just seems… out of place

[lofty prairie]

The lore says that they are pre war and used prior to bombs falling this isnt new it appeared in earlier titles

[plush quest]

I'm sure we'll get expositioned dumped in the later half

[red forge]

The average audience doesn't know that.

[plush quest]

We're halfway through the season and it feels like there are a billion more questions than answers

which is the point of engaging storytelling, to get you to want to hear the ending

[mighty geyser]

Welp time for me to go research some more lore

[lofty prairie]

Yep sounds like it

[red forge]

Yeah at this point it looks like I'll be muting the channel again for another week.

[crisp grail]

for what its worth, i didnt know ||deathclaws|| were prior to the bombs drop either, i had to ask some lore-ists

[lofty prairie]

Little do you know it’s getting 2 more seasons so more time to awnser the questions and not having to all In one go

[mighty geyser]

My understanding was that ||they existed pre war, but only in labs and facilities, they weren’t field deployed as far as I’m aware for the Alaskan front, but I guess they were now, or yk they were transporting one through an active war zone for some reason.||

[red forge]

It's only been greenlight for a 3rd so far.

[plush quest]

I'm jealous for the people who are waiting to binge it. It feels like they deliberately designed this season to end on as many cliffhangers as possible to benefit off of the weekly release schedule by producing more hype and creator content

[crisp grail]

ah thats a good point, it did seem to come out of some sort of crashed container

[lofty prairie]

The director said scripts for the 4th season are in the works

[red forge]

Source?

[lofty prairie]

And season 3 was finished last year the filming atleast

[crisp grail]

this is a dream come true for Amazon- this show is like 1\2 the budget of either Wheel of Time\Lord of the Rings

[lofty prairie]

I don’t remember the source of something I read in July of 2025 by multiple news outlets

[plush quest]

not knowing the source is not an excuse for not having one. it kind of invalidates your claim

[mighty geyser]

Yeah they supposedly never carried out combat deployment prior to 2077

[crisp grail]

i'd believe it that the script treatments are done, tbh

Its part of the dance between the production company and the purchaser - in this case Amazon

[red forge]

That would have been when season 3 was greenlit.

[plush quest]

I'd expect more season 3 leaks to be out by now. Remember how many set leaks there were of the strip?

Or of the super duper mart

[crisp grail]

i dont think they're filming yet, still in pre-production

pre-production is a lot easier to hide stuff

[lofty prairie]

Season 3 is done filming Walton goggins said so at the fallout day thingy were they have people on to sets

The director then looked at him in disbelief as he said that to all the fans lol

[crisp grail]

hrm, i think it may of been a misquote

[mighty geyser]

||Maximus really changed gears this ep||

[crisp grail]

says season 3 starts filming in May

[lofty prairie]

Bruh Ik what I saw

[crisp grail]

feel free to google it yourself

[red forge]

Well unless you can find that source again, we can't accept it.

[crisp grail]

but May 2026 , according to Nolan

[red forge]

"trust me bro" doesn't work here.

[mighty geyser]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they used this weekly ep thing to produce season 3 as that gives them much more time between seasons

[bold copper]

Yea awhile season 4 is not confirmed the show runners aim to keep going with potential storylines inspired by fallout new vegas and other games

[crisp grail]

https://www.ign.com/articles/fallout-executive-producer-wants-hit-tv-show-back-on-the-air-as-soon-as-we-can-after-season-2-ends-with-season-3-set-to-film-next-summer

[mighty geyser]

Nah but it hasn’t started filming yet

[lofty prairie]

Bro what was Walton babbaling on about then

[plush quest]

He had some great characterization this episode. I really loved when he was trying to explain why he does the things he does

[red forge]

I dunno you tell us.

[crisp grail]

Im not playing Gotcha Jissc, Goggins 100% could of mis-spoke

[lofty prairie]

Nah Walton’s tweaking then cuz I swear on my life he said it was done

[crisp grail]

those marketing tours are hell

its back to back to back interviews saying the same stuff

[lofty prairie]

He may have misspoken then

[mighty geyser]

Took me by surprise, I honestly thought he was going another direction, also the ||lady killing her ally was wild ngl, bro did nothing but agree with her||

[lofty prairie]

Mb gang he must’ve miss-spoken

[mighty geyser]

It’s not that deep team

[plush quest]

||Are you talking about the Yosemite Elder stabbing the Coronado Elder? She's been wanting to shove her knife into him since they met||

[red forge]

Yeah it seems ||he's done feeling played. He's had enough. I think him being able to take down a Paladin who insisted on fighting him probably gave him inspiration to pull himself together.||

[lofty prairie]

Yeah it wasn’t a shocker either given his remarks about women in his chapter of the BoS

[crisp grail]

im definitly on team whoever that lady is , lol

[lofty prairie]

He couldn’t shoot his elder tho

[mighty geyser]

You giving too much info

[red forge]

It's courtesy.

[mighty geyser]

Or atleast put spoilers

[bold copper]

At least wait until tomorrow for spoilers

[mighty geyser]

This is a tv series channel not everyone has watched it, that’s why we use the spoilers

[frozen badger]

I like the game mechanics in the new episode ||lucys addiction and thaddeus wearing power armor with no training||

[red forge]

I expected ||Thaddeus to actually have more knowledge, because he knew how to eject the fusion core in season 1.||

[bold copper]

I want to see epic power armor battles.

[frozen badger]

||maybe more on the technical side, not actually using it himself.||

[plush quest]

those guys who complained about there not being any on screen laser action can finally shut up now. But what we did get is pretty lacking tbf

[lofty prairie]

On god

[mighty geyser]

Where’s my PLASMA ACTION

[crisp grail]

i imagine he got some basic training to assist his knight but yeah, i doubt he ever actually used one

[mighty geyser]

PLASMA is underrated

[lofty prairie]

It’s coming with season 3 which will have the enclave, source: trust me bro.

[plush quest]

I'm a Guass guy myself. My Guass Shotgun can carry a team through the Raids

[lofty prairie]

I love the laser rifles however on 76 im using a assault rifle ive modified myself

[mighty geyser]

I don’t like the damage breaking builds cause I doubt they’d exist in lore for the purpose of like game breaking damage

[lofty prairie]

Stealth sniper exists trust

[bold copper]

I love my drug addicted alcoholic stealth sniper ghoul in 76

[plush quest]

a cluster of magnetically charged lead rods deserves to do a bunch of damage tbf

have you seen how fast those japanese magnet trains can go?

and 2mm ammo is HEAVY

[lofty prairie]

Ive just started doing events on 76 for the first time to get treasury notes it’s fire

[plush quest]

the earlier you start the gold bullion AND rep grind the better. there's a lot of good stuff to catch up on

[lofty prairie]

Ive been on one and if it comes to a grind stop it’s actually over.

[red forge]

So my point about ||Maximus committing to wanting to kill Quintus, that sort of plot element and given the roles between the 2 characters, Maximus's plan and state of mind would not have been without fault. Quintus tried to appeal to him on a personal level, so Maximus's emotions started to get the better of him. He did manage to start to shoot back though, but despite saying he wanted to kill him, not everyone is going to go through with such a plan, with how such things can play out.||

[lofty prairie]

I got a 3 star legendary ultracite Gatling laser

It has green lasers instead of red

[red forge]

In other words, ||Maximus tried to get him to see reason, a "chance" to understand.||

[plush quest]

||Maximus should've shot sooner but he let Quintus talk him down. Rookie move after rookie move from this guy||

[red forge]

But ultimately ||he was still emotional, which would've impacted his decision making.||

[bold copper]

Typical fallout morality question

[red forge]

Yeah ||that's why I felt his mindset/plan was not without fault. There's still the relationship between the 2, Quintus is not just his superior rank wise.||

[mighty geyser]

Now after seeing this ||which airship got destroyed? Was it the Coronado chapter||

[plush quest]

||Quintus knows he has a paternal hold over him and uses it to manipulate Maximus. But Maximus is too traumatized from losing his real father that he's extremely susceptible to fatherly manipulation||

[red forge]

Yeah that's essentially where I'm leading.

[plush quest]

||I assumed it was the San Fernando chapter, seeing as it's the closest one to the Area 51 base. But I could be totally wrong there||

[bold copper]

||Im not sure it was the father thing. It was him wondering what choice would be better for the people of the wasteland and which is worse||

||But i may be giving it too much credit||

[plush quest]

||It's totally the father thing. You can see that he broke and let down his guard the most when Quintus calls him his son||

[red forge]

||Maximus was brought into BoS as a kid. He wasn't recruited, he was nurtured by them.||

[mighty geyser]

||Quintus really showed he’s a cleric with that absolute god awful accuracy||

[bold copper]

||Actually his guard started to go down when quintus started to talked about how the wastelanders were doomed to continue their struggle without intervention. So let quitus continue and it may have better outcome eventually or kill him with no real way to help the people. Afterwards he calls him son but the weapon was lowered already||

[crisp grail]

what was that quote from Danse ? very accurate

Not danse, sorry https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1458402942016294932/20251214_162311.jpg?ex=695f8315&is=695e3195&hm=d21487c804a7dcd65b5da299fb5c5f109e48c0a2f99d90a3f3442dfc8a3cc18a&

[dark temple]

Yosemite Chapter.

• empowered women
• proportional responses to misogynistic slurs
• non-religious
• ||makes good on threats||
• ||willing to go behind Maxson’s back in his absence, pretty subservient in the face of his emissaries ||
  || on that note, it would appear confirmed that Maxson is alive…. Though it would be hilarious for them to be pulling a Titus/Harkness switch with him too in the end.
  Even when I did the Institute Ending, I never got a kill shot on Maxson. He promptly fell off the building to the outside of the airport. You don’t get a body with the Minute Men blowing up the Prydwen. ||

[lusty lark]

You mean the Yosemite Chapter Elder? Same honestly.

I can honestly see her and the Yosemite Chapter as a whole having reoccurring appearances throughout the show.

Would be neat as a spin off.

[graceful rose]

Not seen anyone mention this yet, but what if the deathclaws escaped from red lucy at the thorn? Close proximity to vegas, she had the courier and countless other hunters collecting creatures, somthing could’ve happened down their for things to go crazy, that or the enclave had used deathclaws for a while in other games maybe they had somthing to do with the downfall especially with houses experimental tech 👀

[dark temple]

Coronado seems like the only thing distinguishing them is Misogyny.

Grand Canyon… I might need to re-watch… but my take is somewhere between cowboys and idiots… I like them.

[crude lichen]

||Relegating The King to what basically amounts to a simple enemy with a crown next to his name from a dungeon encounter in Fallout 4 was a pretty strange narrative choice.||

[crisp grail]

i wonder what happened to cause that big of a radiation leak

[lusty lark]

My guess? A dirty bomb. Similar to what was used at Camp Searchlight. The Legion are- ohh. I think I just figured it out: The chlorine bomb the Ometas were gonna use to take over the Strip!! (Operation: Racket) Think about it: Makes sense as a dirty bomb. Add radiation chemicals to it, boom.

[west forum]

The fallout 4 deathclaw design is such a big improvement from earlier depictions. Unfortunately it's just about the only good change in 4. Art direction in fallout 4 was garbage imo

[woven scaffold]

FO4's power armour is also something I enjoy.

[graceful rose]

Camp searchlight wasn’t a bomb, was pre war nuclear waste that was stored in the fire station inside containers that was opened by the legion

[lofty prairie]

Guys

[lofty prairie]

@mighty geyser how to get enclave tag?

Also for the tv show where is the enclave in relation to the faction destruction going on?

[coarse vigil]

How do i put spoiler

[vale girder]

The Enclave got pretty much destroyed in Fallout 3

[coarse vigil]

I wish i can post a pic

This show is breaking my heart with bethesda butchering everything💔 💔
The alaska and bos scene was sickk tho

[vale girder]

I’m sick of the BoS being goofy as hell at this point. Thaddeus stumbling around the BoS base being so obvious and none of them questioning it was just too much for me. I have largely acknowledged and ignored it and sometimes enjoyed it for what it was. But at some point the BoS has to show some degree of competency.

But it was a good episode otherwise, I have loved everything else

[last garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[weak kayak]

Likely planted there

[last garnet]

my BoS 😭😭😭

[weak kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/jvd-joel-van-daal-thumbs-up-fallout76-power-armour-gif-14100520

[serene aurora]

there is a timer on amazons promotional website for the series

surely bethesda will keep community expectations in check

[dark temple]

I mean, it’s not hard to see coming. Fallout New Vegas, they’re pretty hard on their luck. Fallout 4 you see some significant strength, but that’s on the east coast. Season 1, aside from them being dumb jocks and bullies, Quintus makes it plain that they are still in a state of decline. Harkness sees them as a joke even before this episode.

Commonwealth has their act together. I think Yosemite might have its act together. The rest…

[vale girder]

The only insight we have so far of The Commonwealth chapter was Harkness and he was definitely as much a goofball as the rest of them, he couldn’t use the Super Sledge to save his life, he was using the term “bro” like it was going out of fashion. The Yosemite chapter doesn’t feel like the BoS, their Elder gives Great Khan vibes with the barbarian outfit.

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-gif-11129110201495930569

[ruby flint]

Legion is done very well costume wise I’m on episode 3 right now

[dark temple]

Seemed to me more like he was playing with his food, not unlike a cat. You get the sense that he actually loves what he does.

[vale girder]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-oh-wow-aight-oh-really-really-gif-3085245322408550261

[vale girder]

Legion looked good, they looked like they were ripped right out of New Vegas.

[ruby flint]

Yeah

and the 2 ceasers looks like it could be a quest in the game

[vale girder]

https://tenor.com/view/one-thousand-percent-thousand-one-hundred-percent-100-1000-gif-17243258

[ruby flint]

Like

Genuinely I can see this exact thing happening in game lol

[vale girder]

I bet that Caesar in the middle between the two camps was the Caesar from New Vegas

Also I’m sad ||Maximus isn’t part of the Brotherhood of Steel anymore, I was enjoying his conflicting ideals and sense of duty to the Brotherhood. I was hoping that he would become the change he wanted to see from within as opposed to mutiny.||

https://tenor.com/view/lonely-wolverine-michael-jordan-sad-gif-11588094

[ruby flint]

Why are scribes called clerics

[ruby flint]

It is

It 100% is he has the same fit on they even say it

I think ceasers note says he is the only ceaser

House ending is canon

[vale girder]

It’s their whole Feudal/Zealotry persona they have going on. Like “Knights, Paladins” etc.

[ruby flint]

Right but

That’s always a thing why aren’t they called scribes like usual

[hidden girder]

I'll be honest. Anything involving a character wearing a vault suit that isn't Lucy so far this season is making me tune out a bit. ||Still enjoying the show, but halfway through episode 4 and needed to vent lol||

[vale girder]

Different chapters are more “religious” I imagine. So they have different terms.

[ruby flint]

Ok

[dark temple]

||to soon to say he’s truly out. If Quintus dies, then any knowledge of his betrayal dies with him. His arc is nowhere near over.||

[vale girder]

||He’s taken the cold fusion reactor, the BoS are going to come after him. Although as previously mentioned they are so stupid and incompetent, they may just start digging holes out in the desert to try find it.|| And a job like that requires a Truffle pig, I’ll be awaiting a call from the BoS and keep everyone posted on my imminent recruitment, though I won’t accept anything less than the rank of Sentinel.

[split gorge]

|| the DEATHCLAW!! why was one in Alaska during Operation Anchorage?! Know they're pre war but damn! ||

|| also The BoS is in Total Shambles now, what does that mean for the future? Will fallout 5 not have a brotherhood of steel chapter? ||

[vale girder]

The West Coast chapters ||are in shambles|| the games have largely focused on the East Coast chapters, so yes Fallout 5 is safe for them.

So far at least.

[ruby flint]

I hate how the ncr is so scattered

[split gorge]

|| kinda disappointed we didn't see more of the Commonwealth chapter, maybe in the future ||

[vale girder]

||Well the way the show has set itself up we should be seeing them pretty soon with Paladin Harkness being killed. They’re going to want to know what happened to him, so if they’re not on their way already, they will be shortly.||

[vale girder]

https://tenor.com/view/screw-those-guys-cartman-south-park-screw-them-i-hate-them-gif-19529163

[ruby flint]

Bro

Ncr is the only goverment

[split gorge]

|| very true, I wonder if that happens, I hope we get to see who the Commonwealth Elder is. Maybe even see Nate? ||

[split gorge]

Not the only government actually

[orchid lake]

Weeeeeell there is the Enclave/US government

[ruby flint]

Enckave is dead they’ve lost every time

Ncr are the only good guys really

[orchid lake]

Nah they were in the first season alive and well, and in Fallout 4 too

[vale girder]

The Elder is Maxson we know that. Whether or not Nate or Nora shows up… HIGHLY unlikely, they won’t touch that.

[ruby flint]

Remnants

[orchid lake]

Ah but see that's different, them being a government isn't what makes them good, it's how they operate and their ideals that does

[split gorge]

Still exists though. Contradicting your "only government" claim

[ruby flint]

Yeah the ncr are the good guys

[ruby flint]

Only functioning goverment they could rebuild the US

[orchid lake]

Nah I'm pretty sure having a massive base with an operational train system isn't just "Remnants", they're still a threat

[crisp grail]

Looks like Goosey found some more ||drugs|| next episode https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999779635871101060/1458491543974449204/SPOILER_Watch-Fallout-Season-2-Prime-Video1.png

[ruby flint]

Shows great tho

[orchid lake]

Eyyyyy it's Nate's favorite combat stim!

[split gorge]

True no real reason for them to change it up just for the show, it's reasonable to keep maxon to better connect the games to the show after all

[orchid lake]

The thing that I think is interesting, is that the Enclave represents the worst of what can happen to a democracy if corruption goes unchecked, while the NCR is a democracy which still has a chance and is clearly (at least for now), still trying to genuinely help people and rebuild

[ruby flint]

Yes

[vale girder]

I’m holding out hope that Sarah Lyons is out there…. Somewhere…. Ready to make a dramatic comeback.

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-enters-dramatically-mando-din-djarin-dramatic-entrance-gif-20585249

[ruby flint]

I don’t think the ghoul really sold out the ncr

[orchid lake]

Now what I want to see is an NCR-Minutemen teamup

[ruby flint]

Yeah that would be fire

[split gorge]

And the entirety of lions pride? Or do you only care about Sarah herself?

[orchid lake]

Obviously he didn't, he literally blew up the Legion right after giving them the info

[ruby flint]

Think the Minutemen is kinda becoming a new goverment on the east with ncr on the west

[vale girder]

Lyons Pride! Lyons Pride! Lyons Pride!

[ruby flint]

didn’t see that part yet lol

[orchid lake]

They're probably the threat that Xander was referring to

[ruby flint]

I’m currently watching the episode

[crisp grail]

and then went back to them to get Lucy the ||buffout||

[orchid lake]

Oh you're still on ep3? Sorry for the spoilers lol

[split gorge]

I hope the future seasons aren't just going to go through Boston, just for the sake of seeing the results of the games, I hope we go to New places

[orchid lake]

Wait what? That's in EP4? I haven't seen it yet

[ruby flint]

It’s ok

[split gorge]

I mean I get they can be strong, but a threat? Come on now

[orchid lake]

Season 3 intro plays, and the first thing you hear? "General, another settlement needs your help"

[crisp grail]

ya'll should REALLY go watch the episode before coming in here, lmao 🙃

[split gorge]

Oh God NO

[vale girder]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-white-you-can’t-fix-stupid-stupid-relationships-marriage-gif-7272633679894827283

[orchid lake]

Preston's back! And now you'll never ever get away!

[orchid lake]

Nah it's fine I already saw some spoilers accidentally on reddit lmao

[split gorge]

I avoid this entire server like a Cazador until I finish the episode

[orchid lake]

Well, the burning airship in one of the MM endings says otherwise

[split gorge]

The minutemen wouldn't actually do that without Nate, they'd be slightly tense with the BoS sure but prefer diplomacy

[orchid lake]

Nah the Minutechads would take out the BoS trust

[split gorge]

Clearly it didn't happen because the Commonwealth chapter exists still

[orchid lake]

For now...

All we need is to have Preston start nagging Maxson and he'll die of sheer rage

[vale girder]

I think the shows are taking the approach that the player characters did not exist, so any influence the player characters had is non-existent. The Minutemen were on the edge of extinction prior to the player characters intervention. I don’t think the Minutemen are in anyway going to be mentioned or a threat in the TV show.

[ruby flint]

He killed Xander!

[crisp grail]

also just sorry, we didnt get much Kumail screen time

https://tenor.com/view/kumail-nanjiani-i-am-so-scared-afraid-gif-9969143

[orchid lake]

Nah I think they existed because the Institute would've been active still if they didn't

[split gorge]

Then why even have the show? The Vault Dweller had to exist to even inspire that one chick to start shady sands. The Chosen one and Lone wanderer had to exist to put the enclave where they are now,

[torpid ermine]

Ep4 was good

[vale girder]

We don’t know where the enclave are now in the TV show. Shady Sands was shown as a nuked husk in the TV show. They’re NCR is in ruins, Caesers legions haven’t expanded

Vegas strip is in ruins

[split gorge]

But you can't have shady sands blown up if it didn't exist to begin with

[vale girder]

There is nothing the show has shown as an outcome the player characters would have influenced

[split gorge]

|| when shown, the Securitrons have the Mark 2 faces, Which means the courier had to deliver the chip ||

[torpid ermine]

Yep, I like the decision to make it seem like the couriers decision didn't matter too much in the end, imo it was likely the tunnelers that cooked new vegas

[dark temple]

I mean… ||Maxson is alive, apparently. Caesar’s Dead, though that could have happened at any time||