#๐ฎใilluvium-beyond
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I was thinking more of a surprise that i will get into top 250, but never say never
@potent tulip please make sure everything is accurate before the wave's snapshot. There seems to be some accounts that aren't showing the correct power.
wave 4 leak?
i made a generative nft minter on python to mess around with my friends and collect between us. that is a T3 with t1 background ๐ฅ
We didn't have rewards paid out this week. Today is the last day before we're officially late ๐ฌ .
Yes
Im working on it
With that announcement some things involved with these payments needed to be restructured
Looking to sort before the wave ends obviously because that plays a part as well to get those paid asap
TLDR: Dick is on it
No worries, thanks for the update. Just making sure they haven't been overlooked.
Good to know you're on it ๐
Took me a minute to remember your old name to figure out why you said this lol
do we know how much ILV is in the pot for W3 LB?
this resleeving update is great. nice work ๐
Will find out by the podcast tomorrow
please make sure wave 3 points are really accurate before the snapshot.
I don't think Aapon is the only problem.
Can you elaborate?
sure, just by going through the top accounts albums it's clear something isn't right.
I mean that doesnt really help us debug anything though? Do these top accounts think something is wrong?
Save some for tomorrow
wave 3 collection points
- 1 - Alexa - 122,532 - 2 unsleeved illuvitars
- 2 - FinalBoss - 141,766
- 3 - RattyLand - 132,321
- 4 - Boosh - 133,026
- 5 - Jubjub203420 - 138,362
- 6 - Dooom - 122,974
- 7 - Spacelover - 123,754
- 8 - Boyo-Wildfire - 117,393 - 1 unsleeved illuvitar
- 9 - EvolutionaireILV - 112,379
- 10 - WillFerrell - 132,440
with that said WillFerrell is in 10th and has a higher wave 3 album, all wave 3 illuvitars bonded and all accessories filled with wave 3 illuvitars (except the T5S3's). How come he is in that position. Something can't be right.
Boosh for example is 4th and has half of the accessories unsleeved and 3 unbonded illuvitars.
you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure something ain't right.
also wondering if this is correct atm @tepid geyser can you confirm this?
If ilook into the albums for both Boosh/Alexa - i see Boosh 133.026 and Alexa 138.195 for their selective wave 3 albums?
138,195 is correct on the Alexa account.
Things do appear to be correct after a little surface digging. Only way to know 100% is to crack a calculator out and total each sleeved illuvitar, hopefully you have an internal script for this as that woud be pretty painful.
i dont know if things are as live and as updated as they are in the album - vs - what is shown on leaderboard if you are spectating someones album for example.
Filow mentioned he saw 2 unsleeved, but i dont see it
Ah ok. Let me have a quick look.
FinalBoss, public 141,766, logged in: 141,766, exactly the same.
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Alexa can have 3 out of top 5 accounts easily if he wants ๐.
I guess so ๐ฎ
Impossible to maintain long term though as there just aren't enough accessories. Really feeling the squeeze this wave already. Next wave will be even worse as the rewards wont be enough to justify the expense of going after the accessories, let alone the rare illuvitars that have to be bonded also. Very limited opportunity.
no they're all sleeved now
Ah yes, I just traded a couple away and had to resleeve them. You must have just looked in that small window ๐ .
So who is first on leaderboard, alexa or alexa ๐ holy shiii didn't know that 
Alexa seems to be the only one who can beat Beyond's Final Boss ๐
Just for a change, i want to see Final Boss at the top pls ๐
Who is at third position? Anyone knows?
my bet is on Alexa
@vague void
H'es real and chasing me down ๐ฉ
heheeh
well i just bought a grip of more d1sks
we getting another top 5 leak? ๐
is there a legacy lb snapshot today?
and 22nd is confirmed final snapshot for wave 3 lb and include prize illuvitars?
and still no ilv payout from last week? Been gone for bit ๐
Good news on extended runway and I hope they also do an outside raise. And thanks team that took a hit and keep working hard for us all, and lets hope ilv rebounds here soon for all our benefits 
Yeah we are working on getting the payouts done asap
as i mentioned above with the restructuring there is some processes that were affected
and this was one
Let's do it!
Top Rank Wave 3 Prize - There can only be 1
OHHHHHH
Now I'm pondering the various ways to interpret the statement that @tepid geyser is beyond Beyond's FinalBoss..
Brb gotta go buy like 4 mil disks
new puzzle for this summer vacation ๐
you can always try..

All my money went on Fuel 
These top rewards are all stunning though... Kudo's to the art team! As always!
@potent tulip , i would still think that you should have some budget now to work on beyond mini game. You dont need to wait til the main game popularity. Beyond is all about Art and players are crazy about it regardless of main game being successful or not.
๐ I know - tell that to the other rednames? ๐
But i'm working on it - right now even ๐
So beautiful ๐
When I was asking how do you top the Rhamphite, well, that's how you do it ๐ . Amazing work!
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i literally made a discord server version of illuvitars ๐ just gotta program permissions and all that so sever members can only mint like 1 a day
I'll give you my gold pho ๐
I keep forgetting disk plates are a thing ๐ฉ
That would be a top candidate for sure. A set of all 3 would look incredible.
do we agree that there is no bug in the score calculations in the leaderboard rankings?
only manuel, wave 3 illuvitars placed
Do the T0's with wave 3 backgrounds count toward the wave 3 leaderboard?
813 k ---> 860 k @wide swan
ฤฑ don't have much experience with beyond, I would appreciate it if people with knowledge could shed some light ๐
are they all in one wallet? or are a few in secondary wallet?
one wallet
I wanted to do it manually because a few players who were 50k points ahead of me in the rankings had 75k wave3 points, (me wave3 86k) I couldn't understand this..
not behind them in other parts such as accessorioes, gsock and backrounds
ฤฑ don't know, but no one reported any errors after the update, so I guess there is no problem
hmm... I find that to make sure points count I don't click replace but rather remove the illuvitar then put the new one in
but tbh... autosleeving the whole collection seems to work pretty good
u can always try different ways and see if you get different results
ofc, ฤฑ will tinker with it a little more
Do the T0's with wave 3 backgrounds count toward the wave 3 leaderboard? @potent tulip
nope... only the w3 t0 backround slots
a player who is 50k points ahead of me in the wave 3 leaderboard
me wave 3 point : 86.000 - name ''X'' wave 3 point : 71.000
polarbear : 10950 - name x : 4.000
terrorbird : 18500 - name x : 9400
nature : 40000 - name x : 33800
etc. etc.
I'm ahead of the player in almost the entire collection except for wave2 and wave1.
Can you explain how this can happen?
Bummer. I spent so much time bonding the w3 T0's.
yah same... was never confirmed
could it be that the scores of players who did not renew the entire collection after the update remained extra high?
We tried to get it in but there wasnโt time as everything was coming to an end and didnโt want to force people into it late
could be... they did say in order to have current points reflected youd have to unsleeve and sleeve
and you def lose some value from gshocks
idk what else
x name gshock point : 9.287 / me : 6.500
I would have thought it was part of it from the start. It didn't cross my mind that it wouldn't be included until I spent so much time bonding and sleeving them and never saw my points change.
yep
gshock bgs were rounded down not up from the adjustment
Are the G-shock counted if they're in other collections? What about the gold ones?
ฤฑ don't know, I spent 2 hours as much as I could and tampered a little manually, the rest is in the management team...
I think the issues I mentioned above should be emphasized because this also concerns the top-ranked players to some extent. If a player doesnโt update, their score remaining extra high wouldnโt be very fair.
Yes, most things might have been fixed after the update, but what if an inactive account doesnโt log in and make the update?
The thing is, the main issue with the bug was that if you replaced an already sleeved wave 3 illuvitar with a stronger wave 3 illuvitar, you did not get the extra points you should have gained.
Which means that most people have gained a lot of points after refreshing, not the other way around. Yes, g-shock BGs have lower points but that's not nearly enough nerf to counter the points that were missing for most players.
If there is an error now, it could be a different issue.
Both g-shock and gold cards count in all sleeves.
Thanks!
I didn't know about this, think I missed the updates on that. I just cleared my entire album and did an auto-resleeve and gained 300K more on the wave 3 leaderboard. That was huge. I had already manually resleeved my top wave 3 illuvitars, but this did a bunch. Thanks for the tip!
idk big g... I ended up with less points after doing the thing... not much but a couple thousand less
ohh maybe wave 3 increased some yah...
not 300k tho... i'd like 300k more XD
I think it may have still had the power for the first ones I sleeved when wave 3 was just released, before I bonded any of them.
ahh makes sense
makes sense with the loss of points in g-shock promo backgrounds
How the reward illuvitar works? Top 5 and Top 25? Are we getting different illuvitars on each different rank?
afaik top 25 all get the jokull
1-5 are one of ones
Congratulations to you ๐
race isnt over yet ๐
JubJub is on a rampage right now ๐ฒ
mmhmm
Might have to start bonding things I didn't want to bond ๐ฉ
Top rewards look amazing! GL to all of you going for them.๐
might rent a few iluviatrs .....just joking ...maybe not .......lol
damg polemos not renting iluviatrs .....roflmao
I hate you for that I gave up chasing you in wave 2 .......but i still bond some naked ones for wave 3 ....high tires acessory drop rates are insane
I also hate the iuvidex I need like 3 to complete as in 100% complete and cant even filter on them ...suck
so close yet so far
has this weeks overall leaderboard snapshot already taken place?
Weclome to the club haha
That's because you moved your whole album into a different address during the wave. So you were one of the few who was showing the correct amount of points since you already had your illuvitars bonded at the time of the move. Alexa and I also removed and resleeved all our wave 3 cards so we also had the correct points. But anyone who filled their album with the unbonded cards first, then replaced them as they were bonding them was missing a few hundred K points, most likely...
something seems a bit off with w3 LB.
I'm in position 11 and when i check position 10 album, it seems my album should be stronger. I beat him in most things i checked. e.g.
my w3 points 117 816 vs 112379
accessories all combined i have ~25k points more
backgrounds - i have more points
all w3 slots for me have accessories, while his don't e.g.
not sure how his points are so high or what makes up for this difference
yup you are correct there is major issues with the leaderboard that will effect many people
@potent tulip @wide swan please look into the fact that the leaderboard points for wave 3 are completely innacurate for many accounts......my account should be in around 6th position and yet i am in 12th position.......this is obviously very unacceptable as I will unfairly be left out of top 10 for snapshot when I should easily be in top 10.......to give you an example ...my account "WillFerrell" has a much better wave 3 collection than the user named "Doom" and yet they have 80,000 more points than me (and are currently in 7th while I am in 12th)...........i see others have mentioned that they have noticed issues and these arent just tiny discrepancies caused by some G-shock errors or somethings.....these are huge differences in points and I am not sure why it is happening but seems after the update there are some albums with way more points than other people who have better albums. You can check for yourself with the example i gave you of my album compared to the Doom album.....and i have noticed many instances of this. With this type of glitch there is no way that the snapshot can happen on 22nd unless there is a fix before snapshot...otherwise the only logical action to be done is a delay until a fix is put in place. Thank you for the good work you guys do and hope this handled appropriately so there isnt a terrible ending to this long awaited finale to wave 3
you are correct....the leaderboard is a mess lol
also SIDE NOTE: can we get a special card for top 10 players or make the top 5 illuvitar reward for top 10? seems way unbalanced to have the big gap between 5th and 25th for special illuvitar reward......the points gap is huge and would make more sense to have special prize be top 1 then top 10 then top 25........or top 1 then top 5 then top 10 then top 25 or something like that....way better for competitors and makes more sense compared to what it is now with 1 and then top 5 and then biiiiiig gap and then top 25
Weโre aware and looking. Obviously weโll ensure accuracy before distribute rewards ๐
excellent thank you for update
Hey m8 looking closer
did you use the auto sleeve and prioritise wave 3?
Like this
Bob? ๐
Ron 
close enough lolol
just got off the phone with Bob...they said they living in a cave now and shutting off contact to the world beginning tomorrow....guess we'll never see them again....godspeed Bob...gonna miss you friend ๐ฅน
they are on a spiritual journey we may never understand i guess
anyways we gonna have to move on without them.....anybody got some reindeer adors for sale? im buying all the reindeers under 50 bucks
Great!! thanks ๐
no, I'm wondering, if you reset your deck 2 times in a row and automatically sort it again as you show here, your score will not be the same as the first time
tt least that's what happened to me and my other two friends
the score of a player who is currently ahead of me in the rankings should actually be 120k lower. I calculated this for 20 minutes without getting lazy
calculating by the score you see in their collections are tricky if you just adding the scores up, it show you total for all Illuvitars, not for Wave 3 score. You would have to check every Illuvitar someone sleeved if its from Wave 3, and then add its points.
team is currently investigating the issue and working on figuring out where the possible problem is accuring ๐
Is there a way for everyone to receive an automatic update from you instead of a system where we update our deck manually? Theoretically it seems difficult, but I was just wondering.
I dont know
But not sure if team wish to do so, the whole deal with Album is that you sleeve the Illuvitars and you choose the way of doing so (regular, or prioritization of W3, imagine if we would go for it cuz we have this issue currently with players who went hard on W3, but we would screw everyone up with regular leaderboard who just bought few illuvitars from W3, not bonded etc, It would lower theirs regular scores potentially)
right you are right ๐คฆโโ๏ธ then let's just wait. Good work, take it easy ๐
How big is the wave 3 pool?
god, I hope not some silent Buddhist retreat or something obnoxious like that ๐
So this wave 3 lb race is fun..exactly what you hope for at the end of the wave. Speaking of which how did sales for promos compare for each wave? I know someone out there tracks that stuff ๐
And I agree, 6-10 on wave 3 lb should have a special illuvitar also...can't someone draw one up on napkin?
I think I found the current problem. How can I convey this to the team? @night basalt
Can you share here? Super curious as to what issue you've found.
I just removed my entire list, then manually placed the wave3 illuvitars for
86,000 points in total. Yes, the general scoring appears to be 86,000 points, but I am seen as 145,000 points in the wave3 leaderboard.
I don't have much experience with beyond, maybe it's just my ignorance, do we get extra points for wave3 based on coefficient?
Would love to have those ilv weekly rewards today and use them to upgrade my wave 3 album ๐
And hopefully a quick turnaround after wave 3 snapshot for that payout
you filled the backgrounds and accessories sleeves as well?
no
only wave 3
How is it counted without me filling them in?
I'm not sure that should make a difference.
If you only have wave 3 illuvitars in your album, both your total leaderboard points and wave 3 leaderboard points should equal the same no?
oh sorry I didn't understand, so you're saying the total value in the leaderboard isn't updating? ๐ฎ
He has more wave 3 leaderboard points than his total leaderboard points, even though there are only wave 3 illuvitars sleeved. At least that's how i'm understanding it.
It can do sometimes yes.
I'm not seeing him at 262 anymore
I completely removed my deck.

some insider info here ^^ @small garnet helped us to confirm some things in the background and looks like the fix that is being cooked by one of the heroes in shadows should solve the issue
so you're tell me there's people with shadow points huh
Is it possible to share what this issue was or how much we can expect it to impact our points?
I would also like to know if my album is actually accurate. Maybe unsleeve all?
I think Fillow's shadow points theory fits here well, so I would expect some dropped points for affected users (thats all i know)
Right ok, so we could be displaying more points than we actually have ๐ฌ .
man, what if you fell out of top ten??? ๐
bond away
Hehehe maybe. Have to wait and see ๐ .
I will wait until the fix is live, who knows where everyone should be at this point.
I just unsleeved my album, and it appears to be ok
since I'm no longer in the top 1200
they should do the fix like late saturday just to make it fun...like a toss of the dice lol
๐ I hope not.
does the words "we all get a free special" and "limited and rare" really fit together? ๐คฃ
This is very disappointing, I'm starting to regret investing in this wave. ๐
why would that be
there is no points being taken that should be there, all points from your Illuvitars will be accounted for
Because the points may drop, there are only 2 days left until the end of the wave and I have no way to get back to my current place if I fall at leaderboard
If you will drop, it will be only cuz someone was incorrectly place below you, but lets wait and see the results, Its no way to tell right now how the ranks will end up to be but they really working hard on releasing the fix asap
I know its not great what happened and that we have this issue in the first place, for what I apologise. I hope there will be minimal change for everyone with ranks
I know why I drop if I drop. But it's bad when I spend money to be on my place on the leaderboard only to find out that it might not be my place after all. 2 days before the end.. Now we can only wait i know, but as I said, for me this is again very disappointing
@soft spoke Hi, Are you still looking for Reindeer?
We are talking about extending
The snapshot date
Will see if possible
I mean, probably makes sense right? And honestly I've seen a pick up in activity, so if this gives people a chance to upgrade their wave 3 album that helps everyone. Don't extend more than a week after fix as example, but yeah, lets get this right so we don't turn people off right before wave 4. And love to hear more on wave 4 and get the last two weeks of legacy lb payouts done "soon" ๐
Yeah Iโm working on it asap
Be great if beyondilluvitardotpro can also get a wave 3 LB option, and remember to tip your server, in this case the generous person who creates this for us and updates it, though now we seem to not have updated for a while ๐
He accepts donations of any illuvium asset to the wallet on the top of the site โค๏ธ
yezzir...how many u got?
Looks like there's a W3 basis points for some accounts without illuvitars being sleeved at all... @tepid geyser @abstract narwhal @sharp sigil @soft spoke @smoky verge
If you unsleeve your collection then check your W3 rank there may be points... guessing that would be the difference taken away.
that would be good me thinks.....would also give some more time to cook up a prize for the top 10 and figure out that whole situation too where there is too big a gap for special prize between 5th and 25th ......who do we speak to about special prize cooking? is that @potent tulip or is there other people?
ezpz
ya that would definitely make sense....glad a fix is coming
my suggestion...lets just forget this whole thing happened and give me first place.....much easier and everyone goes home happy...capeesh?
we do have to make sure that the leaderboard rewards aren't 2x'd
Only 1
you will give it to me for 40 dollars?
definitely....say it loud and proud....TOP 10 NEEDS SPECIAL PRIZE
every time I see ur name ron burgundy it makes me think of ron jeremy ๐
I wish I was that classy...that man is a saint
i will break him out of prison tbh
oh wait hes not in prison? well good for him...makes my life easier
These ai agents getting so good ;)))
Hello sir Rogier.... I have been told the wave3 boards will be delayed and there will be special prize cooked up for top 10 because everybody been feeling bad that there seems to be some injustice in the special prize distribution....this is true?
or we could just make the top 5 prize a top 10 prize....that seems reasonable
Yes!
okay will dm
Already there
This is a good suggestion for wave 4 ^^ this has been baked in for over 3 months.
damn ๐ญ i am certainly in a glass case of emotion right about now
By the way...will pricing for wave 4 stay the same as it was this wave? i feel like the pricing was perfect and should stay same
I think so ^^
good good ๐
oh nice, if that happens too I can bury myself ๐ rank 100 - 150 here i come
seems about right ๐คฃ current mood:
hey guys will we still get stretch goal points if we open wave 3 disks after wave is over?
im getting decent amount of money next week was hoping to add to my point totals after wave was over
@wide swan @potent tulip ๐
Good question i dont know what the current config is - id have to find out ๐
Hey, yeah any wave 3 disks you open will still count ๐
The source!
okay awesome....how long will it count for? forever? for instance for the free wave 4 disks....after wave 4 has begun if you earned enough points to get another free disk will it just appear in your account even after wave 4 has started? like lets say wave 4 has already been running a sale for months and you open a bunch of wave 3 disks and get another 80 points to equal a free wave 4 disk.....you still get the free disk?
im assuming yes...if so thats good i think
I have cleared everything and checked the points and found it was 0 and then apply wave 3 illuvitars and found the same points as before. I don't see any problem on my account
This is exactly we should try to avoid by releasing the critical fixes like this one earlier instead of releasing 3 days before the wave ends.
IMX is such trash. ETH transfer down again
I am amazed this project sticks with them
what site you using? try tokentrove
I am using Immutables site thru layer swap
relay your post to the back of the bus
already tried. No worky
so you tryna go from L1 to L2? worked for me not long ago when i deposited eth on tokentrove to the L2 from L1 metamask
i never experienced that issue before so not sure about it
have you used the same wallet the whole time throughout the wave?
my guess is maybe some w3 points were retained on the original passport wallet for those of us who migrated to secondary wallet during the wave... just a theory
I have always been on a one account
so when you clear album does it show you still have w3 points?
Yeap
.
Whatโs likely happening is that multiple Illuvitars are stuck in a certain deck due to a bug
But we can't see it. ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
some players don't have an issue, I don't know, but I'm glad about that.
is your whole album on passport or secondary?
Passport
ah ok
Every few months I think about completing my background collection. But this coin is just more than I want to spring for.
Maybe Iโll pull one in the last few disks Iโll open later
I would have sold it to you for 30...maybe put in offer?
so this mistake on lb points just stopped the openmarket activity finally going up. wouldnt it make more sense to put the thing into maintenance again. press the stopwatch for time for disk sales till fixed? I dont know if people would mind if they get the time back. i am sure many would appreciate after though... and im sure you saw more disk sales recently... well whatever.
With known issues regarding leaderboard points with less than 48 hours to go, I think an extension should be pretty much a given at this point. Nobody truly knows where they are or what needs to be done to achieve a certain placement.
I agree with @urban stratus too, it can only help market activity, as it did pick up pretty nicely before we ran into this issue. Nothing crazy just 7 days. Should give everyone plenty of time.
I was hoping to get gold ilv coins pad out if you have one
when are the weekly payments going to get fixed?
Ithought I heard today the wave will end as scheduled ....but the snapshot will be taken after the extension ...so I presume no more diskc will be sold at wave end no more bonding bu the snap shot will be done after the extension when leaderboard is soprted ...but either way they will make an anouncment
i agree with this....delay the end of the wave
get the bugs fixed and give us some days to strategize based off the real positions
also
thank you illuvium for doubling points and giving us double rewards.....i seen a bunch of complainers about that action but i think they dont realize that the double points mean that they get double free packs from wave 4
everybody settle down and realize illuvium is the best project in the world
lets gooooooooooo
its tricky to rock a rhyme to rock a rhyme thats right on time its trickkyyyyy
you can alsways donate some of your better bonded iluvitars to me so you can fall down the ranks and get theat Ramphyer ...but that rank 1 iluvitar is Magical hope you still hang in there for it
I wonder if we will beable to sleave those for points in wave 4
I was under the impression that the top spot would get all 3 promos, Top 1, Top 5 and Top 25 as you meet the criteria for them all.
I am going to try my best to get that Adorius ๐ช .
I am pretty sure they will be sleevable as i'm sure I remember Rogier mentioning that they will be really powerful.
I think they will be classed as Wave 3 though so will only count towards legacy and not wave 4, once wave 3 is over.
for sure number 1 should get all three reward illuvitars, and yes they should only be for wave 3, but be nice to see them have their own slot, and also one for the reindeer x-mas illuvitar.
it will be the only one of one, because with unopened disks out there from the other waves, a regular illuvitar one of one could always be repeated, as well as any misprints when they sell them at the end of the set
@runic glade I notice that your wonderful app is not updating...is there an issue? And any wild and crazy improbable chance you'll have a wave 3 lb one also???? ๐
assuming it gets fixed lol
Micsign suddenly at no.5 with wave 3 total points of 128237 which is same as mine. Is this correct position for micsign?
i have no idea whats going on but lets all have a great time
this all makes sense to me....lets party...
Nobody knows unfortunately.
I would have thought it would have been qumulative also Ima just trying to cling onto top 125 ๐
been busy with work unfortunately ๐ i could do a minimal points counter thing for wave3, but been a bit out of the loop on what counts for wave3 leaderboard. if someone could summarize the criteria I'll see if it's doable
sorry top 25 wave 3 ๐
qumulative is amazing.....thank you for introducing me to this word
i just got thrown out of a scrabble tournament using this word
thanks alot....you son of a....
im only kinda mad about it
i will talk down from 10?
im still mad
will i be mad forever?
update at 12 oclock
12 oclock already happened?
well what in the h e double hockey sticks am i supposed to
do
Maybe good that nobody bought the collection from me. The new news and leaks looking promising. Got me hyped up again. ๐ฅ
nice to see going hyper giving some love to Beyond 
look carefully, we don't have the same points, you only look at set 1 wave 3
if Alexa's points are correct, mine are also correct, I had 1,200,000 pts without updating
I waited until the end to update my points
in any case in my opinion the illuvitar holo should be enlarged up to position 10. I don't find it correct in wave 3 that number 6 receives the same reward as number 25
this sounds so much better than what i wrote ๐ exactly what i meant thanks @tepid geyser
let's just hope they fix the leaderboard bug with this update ๐ค
you know the important part is the time.. would benefit them and the collectors aiming at certain placements. only makes sense and as alexa said doesnt need to be a long extension. a week or something should do the trick. and i think it would be better to fix it for real and not just for this instance. i hope the team puts in time to really fix it.
if everything is right there's no reason to extended it.
well i wouldnt mind but the thing is how many didnt buy/sell/trade because they didnt know? in general uncertainty is bad for business ๐
yep, that's why we should try to respect established dates.
established dates set on working products dont really apply to a broken product though..
well im not here to argue on this
just my opinion
I agree with Filow because I invested, bought and tied to be in the top 5 on February 22nd. I've been writing for months that the wave 3 ranking update should have had priority over everything, now for me it's correct if it ends on the 22nd
yeah i would benefit too.... I dont say this on the part of myself. things need to be fair. there are very smart people who hold back on sleeving and bonding for the last moment. they invested to just held back as a strategy. so they should get screwed so you can win if i understand correctly? the risk there is they wont be staying. altough i didnt expect this scenario as is. i expected market pretty well and did already do what i needed to do. what i am saying does not base on my placement on lb lol
obviously, but hopefully they can still fix it in time.
I instead insist that Ramphy holo from top 5 should be extended to top 10.
For me it is not correct that those in position 6 receive the same illuvitar as position 25, especially considering the investment
that would be the optimal i hope they dont patch work it just for other issues to be discovered.
dont get me wrong i dont want a extension. i really dont want a gap lol. but if its fixed in 2 hours for real great. if it takes 2 days to really fix who cares extend it 2 days...
no need to add more than it takes...
yeah I would also like to see the rhamphite be rewarded to top 10 instead.
you know if they extend it
and maybe top 3 for the adorius
will you keep that opinion on rhamphite? ๐
yes it's regardless of extension
in fact, I've been saying for months that the functioning of the wave 3 ranking should have been a priority, no one was too worried... in the same way, the rules of what gave or didn't give points had to be clear. I also spent money to test tying T0 which I already had tied from previous waves.
These talks should have been had before, not today.
i've talked alot during gap mate hehe i said my stuff honestly
just was happy to see things happening again so i had a new thing to say
i believe during gap was when the talk shouldve happened
this is all aftermath of it dude lol
i dont mean to attack you btw. speaking up is a good thing
But then the person in 2nd place might not like that they get the same as the person in position 10, and the investment disparity may be even larger surely? I don't think there's really a right answer. But Rogier has said he'll look at it for Wave 4 ๐
of course I also speak for our good and I hope that the entire illuvium universe grows out of all proportion.
maybe im wrong but i think thats exaclty @inner quest point..
oki anyway i had alot of fun in w3 so i hope it doesnt come across as negative. hehe going off now bye guys!
reward top 3 with the adorius and top 10 with rhamphite. Alexa will end up getting the 2 adorius anyway.
btw seems to be back online
in my opinion the no. 2 has no problem if no. 10 gets his own prize, while no. has the problems. 6 which takes the same premium as 25 and this is where there is more investment diversity..
This seems like the best solution to me
So nice i just droped from 1238108 points to 864913 points lost 400000 points what the hell is going on
Cant believe it
i lost over 200k points xD
But Alexa is down over 500k
This has been in the iip that locked for this wave with the notion that we can revisit parts of it for wave 4. This would be 1 of em.
The leaderboard winning reward illuvitars*
How i could lost 400000 points in wave 3 lb? Any explanation?
as we were talking about this lastnight all affected users will drop, did you also re-sleeved your illuvials after the announcement?
I think everyone lost points, ull have to resleeve
i lost 50K, resleeved, only lost 15K orso
i resleeved still lost 200k
400000 points? What was affected? Everything?
Resleeved 400000 points gone
strangely from 5 I am n. 7... but please... now it's not correct for me...
how exactly do t0 w3 work? if i sleeve them x3 i get x3 points or just once?
T0 are not included
next wave we will have a clear blog explaining which illuvitars will have an effect.
they changed that? lol
yeah i know but bg is different on those right now i thought @wide swan said they count..
I dont know about that, but since they are Wave 0 they should not count
I don't like this... nothing was ever clear from the start, without a written regulation.
the cards on the table are changed at convenience.
I sell everything and abandon
lol you see this is what i said before
you want an extension now? ๐
seriously dude...
I think now the LB looks much more realistic
Well, unfortunately it has been an known issue that the point system did not work since the start of wave 3
I'm broken... my friend it ends for me today
you need a system mate hehe
For me too with the extended wave ๐
if youre able to generate a profit just do it. lol
might be to late now though.
hehe
Not extended, we cant buy more disks next week
dont make a decision on a negative event btw. wait a few hours...
list dupes if you have to.
If you consider max points of alexa which is around 4.2mil and if you devide that by 3, it comes to 1.4mil avg per wave. Wave 3 could have 100k more because of separate LB. I think the new changes are showing points correctly
Im place 41 and have more points at accessories, backgrounds and wave than place 40 hiw this could be?
If you have money its nice but i have all invested because wave should end tomorrow
how did you check so fast? how is the bonding rate difference?
@potent tulip , can we get special illuvitars for atleast upto 10 places and then top 25 could have one common one? ๐ค ๐
can top 130 get another illuvitar xD
Fast? 15 minutes๐ only two accounts
i have 750+ sleeved illuviators
wave 4 we can reconsider these thresholds - all goodie
rookie numbers!
Accessories, background, lines all
thats funny for real hahahaha
in this way wave 4 is played with 5 people
imo 800+ is minimum for a good album ๐
I really lol'd hahaha
cmon man!
maaan i gotta bond some stuff then ๐ญ
When i sleeve with priority wave 1 i have the same points on wave 3 lb.. how this could be?
reload again.. i lose 10 spots with w1 prio
i dont know if this makes a difference but the safest way to do a reset is press clear all first
might not create a difference but with computers and software thats the way to do it. less work for the thing...
There were albums on the leaderboard with a lot of ghost points
clearing album, and reseleeving should get you your real points atm
i just did w1, w2 and w3 resleeve and it takes about 30-60 seconds to refresh placement - wait a little and see if it still the same
I see you also did a lot of tier 0's with W3 , but those atm are still set to W0 , so they count on all waves the same. This is probably because there is so little change in your points between W1 and W3 , your most powerful T0s are your newest?
We are hoping to get this in for W4 to have t0's count across the board - but for now its only the bg collection afaik.
you sure you choosing option to sleeve from scratch? Also Leaderboard can take up to 5 min to update sometimes. So please wait few minutes after resleeving
i also did... to be clear it was communicated to count... wasnt specified clearly so blame is not on you guys totally. from a marketing perspective it was a mistake: you can see that this might be a massive bummer to some collectors...
no worries im not pissed haha
just think about it for next time better not say anything than saying things that are vague and cheap
i dont think there was any official communication about these counting - but rumored for sure - i totally understand that from a UX perspective these shouldve counted.
if vague do the expensive stuff..
rich wrote it
i can dig it up.. he did say its not clear on how specifically it counts
1 of the things Im working of for Wave 4 is a rulebook o.O
so we can all be clear about it
why i say i dont blame you
to me i made a speculation bonded cheap just in case so im good
i was aware its a bet ๐
thats awesome ๐
super important not fun to do but it will make things so much easier for you guys....
So if you say everything is ok than it should be.. in my opinion i have mor points than the rank higher (without t0) but alright today is a bad day for me and for sure there is no wave 4 for me.. if anybody needs everything i have to sell my full account rank 41 lb3 and wish all others good luck and good returns i'm out โ
mate take a walk outside if you still think that. do a analysis. you might be right i dont know. but right now you should take a breath.. i mean this very kindly hehe
Take a bit of time and let it settle for a bit see if with the next resleeve anything changes - if not - and you are still sure there's something wrong, feel free to contact support and we will do everything we can to get to the bottom of it.
@potent tulip is there a graph showing what counts and what not or some list to do a manual counting on individual points?
โHello everyone, considering the various changes that have occurred just a few days before the snapshot, could we postpone it by 7 days to make it fairer?โ
well for one user it's not really worth it but you know what i mean ๐
Not in shareable format - but something we noticed from support is that something thats missed often is the collection bonus points
i would provide something like it
Thanks for the update. I paid special attention to the fact that I saw that a few players who should have been at least 120k points behind me fell 100k points behind. Things are progressing well, congrats!
well im going for a hike now hehe
be back later
hehe not at all lol
actually quite the opposite hehe chat hasnt been this active for a long time ๐
oki later dudes
our dev tripplechecking your score right now in the backend
if you need help with that don't forget to hmu xD
I wont ๐
i mean i wont forget! ;D tnot that im already saying i wont need ur help heheh
ok I need to get this of my chest. I have huge consideration for your commendable wish to respect IIPs but we gotta stop doing things like this. Governance is a slow process and it's in no way shape or form adequate for the fast decision making required in an environment like ours.
This was exactly the downfall of the fuel economy where we could have saved it with a single line of code but instead we let it die because there's an IIP saying land owners always have to get 5% of the fuel sales.
I didn't see no IIP for the fuel overhaul, you guys simply did it. I didn't see no ICCP for the double individual stretch goals points, or an ICCP saying wave 3 would last for 3 months and 1 week, you guys simply did it.
We need to start fixing the products/games before we fix the IIPs.
If you want, I can write an ICCP right now to change the exclusive illuvitars reward structure. Do you think it would be approved by the March 1st? Most likely not.
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Yeh theres little i can say to that as i wasnt involved in those.
I was involved with the iip that stands at this moment. Its what i thought eveyrone agreed to - i hadnt read it in the feedback back then either. This has been clear for the entire wave.
But now they've been unveiled - brought back to peoples attention. And now you want the change. This to me feels off.
I'm not going to get any it seems - so i dont have the skin in the game.
If we can somehow get the people who are actually able to get em take a stand on this - im sure we can change this. But you have to understand the semantics are a bit odd. Again - im fine with it, i jut dont want to shoot in the foot of the people who then suddenly dont get a 1 of 5 but a 1 of 10 etc.
its like the guy coming 4th in an F1 race also wants a trophy. and the guy who's 5th too.. like :/
we set this up, voted, rolled with it - we can change .. sure
the IIP that stands got an ICCP made where it defined the individual stretch points per d1sk. And that was changed was it not?
I'm just saying we should start doing things the other way around instead of being limited by the IIPs. They're called improvement proposals not death sentences.
Regarding the illuvitars, it's the same to me. But maybe ask the top 10 players what they think.
but now?!
Yeh then lets do that.. @smoky verge i need your help ๐
i'm here ๐
Let me understand what it is you want to change Filow xD
the leaderboard winning illuvitars to have a different spread
1/10/25?
adorius top 3, rhamphite top 10
1 // 1-5 // 1-25 is what it current ly is
i object
to that
the number 1 is was the winner
that should be a 1 of 1
ok
i do think that giving Alexa 2 adorius would be weird ๐
He is alexa and finalboss xD
was just to keep the ratio
I don't understand this
you guys doubled the individual stretch goal points
you mentioned how it should be done prior to march first.
no ICCP made
and this now needs an ICCP before it happens?
this is exactly the problem I was talking about
why don't we put it up to vote and let the community voice their opinion?
so now you do want an ICCP?
I just saying we could change it now and do the ICCP later
again, where is the ICCP regarding the individual stretch points doubling???
and i do want to mention how it was put up to a vote, and the proposal passed within 15 hours.
Are there still battles in Bitb? Last one on home page shows 2 days ago
So we just compared your score with user above since you mentioned him, he has 8 more Wave 3 Illuvitars sleeved than you, thats why he is above (245 compared to 253 - thats where user above you getting extra points)
Example, In the Amulet collection:
- You:
- 2 W3 Sleeved: 8.711 Points
- Ranger above:
- 3 W3 Sleeved: 11.519
Our dev also double checked all illuvitars you sleeved with the leaderboard score and now it matches with no discrepancies
- 3 W3 Sleeved: 11.519
im pretty sure the wave duration of 3 months is from a passed IIP.
as for the double points, well
let me check that IIP again
There has been no fuel overhaul yet. The individual stretch goals points were an unfortunate outcome. As for Wave 3 being extended 1 week, I rather that than an unfortunate bug. But whats this about the exclusive illuvitars?
We can reach council consensus, i am in favour of releasing said info
bro i have 50 -75 dollar every month to invest in crypto. i never tried to get in the leaderboard because iยดm a poor guy ๐ but in this wave i invest more than 2500 dollars (thats huge for me) because the leaderboard show me i climb the leaderboard. yesterday i was in the top 25 and this would be a nice amount of ilv to get a little return, but today i lost a third of my points and the wave extend for 7 days so i have no chance to get back in top 25. iยดm frustrated af and its disappointing that we get wrong informations like LB or T0s and end of wave date. no walk could be long enough to forget all this bs happening
The announcement does not say that the wave will be extended, only the snapshot
I dont mean to forget. I meant to clear your thoughts..
Besides, who's to say the points are right now? they were right even before and I was n. 5.
Who can guarantee me that the points are correct now and not before?
I feel cheated!!! In wave 4 I sell everything and abandon
nothing was ever clear from the beginning, you changed the cards on the table to your liking and now it's not possible to do an IIP?
you can always do an IIP
Well the company which created the whole thing did just tell yoi that? Im not sure what you are trying to do here. You invested big into a nft collecting game... and 2.5k is alot for you but you should consider thats probably not enough for top spot....
Its competitive...
Alot to you is very little to many others
They win
never mind what I invested... between lands, etc.. I have two complete albums
bro the leaderboard shows me its enough and thats it
oh u mean the extra 1 week
Im talkimg top spot youre conteadicting yourself...
I don't know how to do it? I also struggle to write in English, I use the translator... Can you or someone else do an IIP?
So the rationale for the ICCP could be as follows: -this is just a quick 1 minute draft lol
Due to persistent bugs with the leaderboard, players feel that they were cheated out of an expected unique Illuvitar.
While every person had their point total rectified to a now accurate level, some of the community feels burnt. Therefore, the first leaderboard reward structure for unique illuvitars should be slightly broader to accomodate any rounding errors that occurred through potential persistent bugs?
Previous structure:
1/5/25
New structure:
1/10/30
only applicable to wave 3?
So if it does show you there why are you complaining?
This is a wave thing just build on what you got now wave by wave you should get better dont you think?
i would never have invested so much if the leaderboard show me the corret points
And rewards are crypro if you hodl chances are it will raise in value
It was known to be wrong
yeah that's why in the original proposal it stated "any changes to reward structure will occur after wave 3 has concluded"
Exactly, but as Filow also said perhaps the best solution is from 1 to 3 - from 5 to 10 - 11 to 25 or even 30
for 4 days yes
Dude ive been around here... it was known much longer
Just g-shock bg's shouldve been enough
The t0 were said to count but not how im not saying that is good but it was atleast communicated
W2 we got nothing bro haha
never was told the points are wrong from beyond side only users tell this.. maybe 1 week ago thats offical a bug on lb points
there is nothing communicated! nothing written, no clear rules indicating what counts for wave 3 and what doesn't... plus it must be considered that not everyone is always here on discord
Sorry that you dident know about this, but it was know from probably week 1, why it was ignored for 80 days i do not know
because nothing was ever clear from the beginning and the ranking never worked
oeeee i had no clue fair enough
who tells us that the current ranking is correct and that of 3 hours ago is not!
who knows?? and who announced this in wek 1??
Atleast some prople on discord, and the team ofc, but after wave 3 launched, it was ignored
and just to be clear I wouldn't be advocating for any changes if we handn't extended the wave by 1 week
the bugs seems to be fixed now
not extended, only the snaphshot
it's basically the same
that means nobody can buy anything and cant upgrade the album? i think not.. the wave is extendet
We are not looking at individual here. People can have multiple accounts and they are responsible for it. Rewards still should just consider the rank and not individuals and see if they hold more than 1 account
it means there's no d1sks for sale
you can buy from market thats the same
fair enough, so you would agree with top 3 to get the same Illuvitar rather than having a single wave winner.
well you could argue that people who are not active today/tomorrow and realized their new score on the LB, would have a chance to correct it ๐ . though im not advocating anything atm
why not do a poll?
or go ask the top 10-15 players
The wave 3 sale still ends in 2 days
That sounds dangerous, if theres people who have been chasing that 1:1, it would be a slap to the face if not all of those 3 were happy with that outcome
I am in favor
What is the poll for? 1-3 rank having same illuvitar?
if number 1 is not favorable we will proceed with the ramphy from 2 to 10
1-3 get 1 special, 1-10 get rhamphy and 1-30 jokull?
just so that you know, there are still some beasts further down the leaderboard who are not done bonding, so you might still get pushed out of 10
now the ranking doesn't work, I removed a wave 3 and replaced it with a wave 2 and the points remain unchanged
could take 5min to update
I'm fine with it, the important thing is that they finish tying by 22nd, then if they're at no. 12 or 13 is not a problem
done half an hour ago
but wave 3 will be extended, nice ๐
That is not going to happen now that they have announced it to be pushed
Lots of confusion here. Is wave 3 being extended ? If yes then how long for? What is the conclusion on special illuvitars distribution to top 25 or top 30?
only the snapshot is extended
leaderboard snapshot 1 march
I don't understand... wave 3 doesn't end on the 22nd?
no snapshot is on 1 march
the wave ends, but the snapshot is taken 1 march
you can buy at market and climb the leaderboard until 1. march
ok thanks for the info, so it's official?
Does that mean i cant purchase disks after wave 3 completes on original time but snapshot will be on 1st march?
yes but you can buy from illuvidex
You will become unable to MINT disks in ~2 days. Trading any assets, including D1sks can still be done after the wave ends but no more MINTING will be available. That means that you can still sleeve illuvitars and aim for a higher rank in the upcoming week, but the total supply of wave 3 D1sks and Illuvitars will not increase after the wave ends.
garf can you write the IIP? with this structure applied to wave 3?
Previous structure:
1/5/25
New structure:
3/10/25 or 30
if they do the snapshot in 2 days and some people got some of theirs not sleeved yet, what would they say
They are not
What do the people say who expected February 22 snapshot? and have now no chance to buy and climb like other players for one week?
no legacy leaderboard rewards so far for 2 weeks?
It is more fair to let everyone get their things in order with an added week, than fix the leaderboard two days before the snapshot. In doing it like this, it is more likely that more people will be able to participate in this "true" LB points
yes true its fair, but all of this shouldnยดt happen
Made a feedback thread here to gather feedback on the unique Illuvitar reward structure.
I would suggest seeing this wave as a testrun for this new leaderboard structure and taking the feedback forward, ensuring wave 4 is super clean.
thanks Garf, precise and punctual as always.
could anyone help me check whether illuvitars is one of the filters on the illuvidex? i just checked on someone's profile and it doesn't seem to be in the list
or is this only when someone has 0 illuvitars on their passport? cuz then nvm me
I'm not sure but I think that I've just lost something like 15% points on the wave 3 leaderboard after automatically refilling my entire collection once again today
Is it normal?
I really don't think so...
yeah everyone should lose a good chunk of points today
Does anyone know litre-a-cola? i haven't been able to find him in discord but with a top 5 leaderboard rank he must be around, right. Please ping him or DM me if you do know ๐
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i lost 30% (400k points)
but can we know how much the pool is? or even for this reason we have to wait until the last minutes... let's hope that at least this count is right...
yeah, if you don't have any Illuvitars in the wallet, it doesn't show the filter "illuvitar", as long as they all work the same ๐ . I'm out of d1sks and since then, no longer see the "Beyond d1sks" filter
if you asking for W3, Rich mentioned on the podcast its around 3.200 - 3.600
Anyone want to do a Mega Disk battle?
Hey Peter, I don't think it's likely to be base 3200. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I remember seeing a 3360 pool from X official account on February 10th
you see the range I gave ๐ trying to play safe here ^^
yes yes ฤฑ understand thx
than I will give you all the angry emails to respond if its going to be 3.599 ๐
Wave is done very very soon, then we will start pinging data guy to give us the final number ^^
I will concede this position to you 
wow, the sleepy villagers are awake with pitchfork and torches...and they said this wasn't a game ๐
@night basalt could you ask whether it is possible to unsleeve everyone?
Since some people went down from rank 15 to rank 35, that mesns if you dont resleeve you remain higher on the leaderboard ๐
So the people that do what they should, will drop in rank. The people that are afk or intentionally dont resleeve this last week get high points.
yep, going to have to do a full unsleever for everyone to make it fair
That seems to be the current state or how i perceive it. Maybe im wrong. But please check ๐
I dont believe you have to unsleve, where you geting this from? points should be corrected without any input
where this info coming from?
No the points are corrected now, but resleeving will definitely change the outcome.
I had 411K points, dropped to 380K with the updste, and my resleeve got me to 406K.
ok random... 3,200 3,600 who knows
so there is no issue with having to unsleve?
And now Abundance mentioned how he seems to have dropped 20 ranks after unsleeving and resleeving ๐
well I have a top 10 overall account and now not even a top 30 wave 3 lb account..makes no sense. Was close to 10 on wave 3 before also. Album name is abundance. The unsleeving and resleeving seemed to work fine, with no change in legacy lb standing, but big change in wave 3
and I had resleeved them before so that should have been reflected in old standings
The announcement mentions how you should resleeve everything. Because certain assets are removed from your album due to bugs. Like greater grilla.
But if resleeving messes up your points then that is a bit of an issue.
So i just wanted to inform whether a forced resleeve, getting everyone at the same level, would make more sense.
So then everyone if there is a bug at all, everyone is forced to resleeve and we all have the same outcome.
announcement mentioning unsleving some illuvitars, thats it, no need to unsleve and sleve again if you initially used "prioritise Wave 3"
jus sleve again to acomodate the forced unsleve for those few illuvitars that everyone got unsleved
But idk if it is an issue in the first place. In my case resleeving increased my point total.
Maybe resleeving caused the players around abundance to get 100K points because they hadnt yet sleeved those.
Forcefully unsleeving everyone would also bring issued since people thst are away for a week would not get anything.
I just wanted to inform whether anything was found to be strange in any way ๐
this did the trick, didn't pick the right priority...now 16 ๐
so everyone hit the right refill button show up on lb right
There you go Abundance! Jeez!
Ahahahaha nahh lets keep it at top 5
Stop scaring me on friday evening ffs @frank pier ๐คฃ๐คฃ
me too Rogier ๐
Btw you would be the one staff I'm most like to have a beer with and shoot the shit, if only I still drank lol
Eurocool 
Lets not shoot shit. Can I propose buying d1sks together. Thats a true bonding experience 
Ill make u pick up drinking
๐ฌ
I still love to eat so there is always that, and yeah a beyond/illuvuim will have to happen in person
I cant wait for a europe illuvi-convention
well European beer is so much better than american swill I might have one
or wine
I heard you can start making wine up by you now with global warming
Yes.. altho brewdog and goose island is quite alright!
We have some brave people trying that yeh, and even braver drinking it ๐คฃ๐
yeah the little local stuff is actually quite good but very hoppy in most cases
I always liked the dark or Belgians best
Ser youve obviously never had an Ice COLD Budweiser on a hot sunny day
Or you a nice franziskahner? :]
**REMINDER **
If you are competing in the Wave 3 Leaderboard, please remember to resleeve your Illuvitars using those steps:
- Fill prioritizing Wave 3
- Sleeve from scratch
This may resolve a lot of confusion and talks about losing thousands of points.
i'll give someone a can of Paulaner beer for a holo unimpressed rake ๐ #beerdex
that's a good one as well
just looking through my album, I can't wait to get Blotto 
the only line with the stage 3 in the middle of the image :]
IF you are talking about the original Check Budweiser, THEN you are right. If not, forget about all you know...
minimal change for me was almost 300K points less in wave3 lb lol (and 1000 less in total leaderboard)... just feelz bad
as per announcement, we have un-sleeved some Illuvitars, please hit the resleeving button making sure everything is sleeved correctly ๐
yea, i saw now, just lesser appon was unsleeved.. so thats that 1263 points... so total leaderboard was correct the whole time but wave3 was misleading me for good 2 months
sorry for the issue with Wave 3 leaderboard
our devs tried fto fix it as soon as possible, thats why now the snapshot is moved in time so everyone has time to resleeve etc
I would suggest whoever are on Top 50 position to cast their vote on the comments here: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1342496059036798986 it will direct council and team to decide on any changes to distribute special illuvitars. This is required to compensate top players because of last minute LB issues and wrong point calculation.
kudos to the team on unsleeving, sleeving mechanism. Works great and looks great 
love to see the weekly ilv payout soon though for both weeks
Thanks spacelover for raising awareness ^^
@wide swan , when are we getting LB payouts for the last 2 weeks?
deportations?? ๐
ps you are getting more natural at your going hyper show
When is the wave 4 starting? In a month time?
i think they said its expected around a month after wave 3 end
When is the snapshot for wave 3 rewards? tomorrow when wave 3 ends or on march 1st?
March 1st 22:00 is the snapshot time for wave 3.
The Disk sale will end tonight (22nd) and will only be available from the secondary market thereafter.
18th now ๐
@potent tulip
Hey! what is the difference in the minted wave 3 skins, and is it random?
Id think so? but also think that there is this change coming making all skins work? Wasnt that a recent discussion/iip somewhere.. i could be mistaken
its hard to keep track of everything sometimes ๐
Okey, if that is the case i have missed that
๐ then maybe im wrong. too.. -_-
i read this here - #1320645180755284040 message
well it does make sense, unless in the mmo-lite we are going strong in one direction with our rangers, like if you go warrior sword, you are only going in that direction with your ranger and will not need any other suit typ
Yeah its all fluid stil (which is good imo) so we can come up with the best and most fun design.
I would not say that it is a big deal atm, but in the future when skins are more used, we would need a better filtering system
short term they should only be a big thing in arena where the revamped lobby etc will give players a real moment to show off
everything is ok now?
Hi All I want to transfer 300 Illuvials to another account can I selct all and transfer them over in one hit?
should be, but for security,, try just 1 first - to see if it indeed ends up where u want ๐
I just tried it and max is 39 at one time not sure why and I need to select each one
39 is max
Prob a security thing
same on token trove
eyo legacy LB rewards going out?
still no ilv payout for last two weeks?
this captures it, and me, exactly!
that's not you is it?
well I wasn't going to say anything ๐
but bean me is fun lol
used to love his skits
Growing up I used to think MrBean was ridiculous and couldn't understand why people found it so funny, but as i've got older I have really come to appreciate it. Must have watched them all many times over now, never get old.
yeah you'd think it be more for kids but actually its more for adults as we realize the silliness of life and how we act in the world ๐
Running out of time
6 hours remaining!
@frank pier @tepid geyser did you guys buy some more d1sks yet to ensure you can scratch your wave 3 itch in between wave 3 and 4? xD
if only I had the ilv ๐
meaning... running out of time to send out rewards? ๐
If I could send them personally I would
just send your ilve
can you swap ILV to eth on passport?
i have like 12 on there and idk what to do with it
Yeah immutable swap works
Did mine the other day to buy d1sks
immutabledotio to swap
There is a fee but no less than the round about way you have to otherwise
side note, can you believe gas fees right now? like rates of 5 years ago
That's a good thing
immutableswap dot io then? XD
Something like that just google it I think
There is one that's dead
And one that works
immutableswap io
i'll just link my passport to every site i can find.
Smort
Hey apparently they more solvent than CB
doubt that ๐
coinbase is so boring...but at least safe...survived all the other ftx, luna etc shenanigans
BAM i swapped it thanks Rich
and didn't celsium us either
and Abundance, and ratty xD
mega or standard? 140$ worth lol
standard...hani keeps hit great acc. which are still needed till snap
with standard
pays for itself plus
standards.. the necessary evil
I only opened my 80 mega's at start.
more lynxes please
so this will nicely add to my collection
and if you need to bond at all end up with more acc.
remember to start keep all three expressions of all lynxes as it seems they will be added an album space and points for wave 4
any holo...can bond later
or rare expression with great bg, which has almost as much points as holo
and they sell for nothing anyway
show what you get with your pulls...at least good ones
will open 20 :))
see if you don't get more than 100 of value ๐
and if you do bitb get more points there
worth more than 5 right there
and no clown nose ๐
I'd pay extra to have those excluded in pull
what do you think
opened 24 though :] that was my only really good one
and decent acc.?
any
10%+
maybe another 20 ;0
or you have to be lucky
but the idea is sound if you open enough
like 100
you will hit on enough to cover cost...megas more of a risk, but nicer every disk
but lots of lynxes
Hi Al when is the wave 3 snap shot being taken
March 1st 22:00 is the snapshot time for wave 3.
The Disk sale will end tonight (22nd) and will only be available from the secondary market thereafter.
22 utc
Ok nice so I still have a few days to slot and sort it out
My last unboxing of wave 3
I have a bunch I bought yesterday
How
Long will I last
To not open them
My wave 3 set is done mostly
4 days im placing a bet
Much faith you have
Lucky I'm busy working on the house today or Id already be in the office
My husband had bought sILV2 awhile back. He transferred it to me for the sale and told me to buy some Alpha Mega D1sks for him - 12 of them. I was not to open them.
I have 6 left. 
I likely open them tonight
or save them, mark them up and sell to kieran ๐
u haz spare dualeph sir..
opened well over 50 today ,, hadnt had much luck either :/
opening some standards atm
always like these ๐
Only 2 I have are diff expressions
I'll find another and gift you
opened over 100 today and still dont got it ๐
is it red fire or orange fire that is the most rare? always confused me....they seem too similar....should probably change that....
the illuvial was 2100 power, so dunno. there was a post in discord on what the power levels were, and then things changed. then there was a blogpost, and i never paid too much attention to the new values. xD
this is unacceptable...nobody knows...fire everybody
Fire is neither red or orange. I find this comment triggering
didnt even realize i made a cool pun there
i am just a punny kinda guy naturally i guess
LEAKED REPORT: It has been confirmed there will be no pause in leaderboard rewards between waves

thats not a leak? thats by design ๐
yayyy confirmation is confirmed....well done team ๐ฅณ
are we going to get the same leaderboard as wave 3 for wave 4?
Pretty sure I bought 100 with the strict intention of not opening any. I now have 0.
NIce! Is that legit? So the legacy payouts resume every week without ever stopping (providing no delays of waves).
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i assume thats what sir Rogier just confirmed......which is good news for sure ๐
They are like chocolates...just one more and then I will stop.
As mentioned in the proposal, legacy leaderboard never pauses. รnly when a major technical issue causes you to become unable to sleeve or play.
is it mentioned? ๐
"However, if Illuvium Beyond experiences any technical issues or vulnerabilities that prevent the game from functioning as intended, the rewarding element of the leaderboard will be temporarily halted. This ensures that players are only rewarded when the game is fully operational and the leaderboard can actively be played."
Checks out
Which means that it only pausrs when an issue arrises. Otherwise it continues.
i don't read that
Can still play the game between waves
You can still buy and aim for higher ranks through secondary market plays
You can buy D1sks on secondary market ๐
But yeah it doesnt state specifically: "Rewards continue in between waves and only halt when a technical issue arises."
So i understand the confusion. Tbh i had Rogier explain it to me as well 
Im sick of you being sick of being bored! ๐
Wow Ron, i never imagined you sending us to a proper channel ๐คฃ
Wen mod
idk, wouldn't say the game is fully operational if there is no disks to buy to increase supply.
But totally fine if you all see it the same ๐
suddenly my general chat disappeard from side bar wtf
is it messed for you too?
Prob collapsed
nope i checked....its just gone....all i did was post a gif from ron burgundy and i got booted?
U have been quarantined to beyond chat
i see your message........and all the comments from the last hour are no longer there
i got quarantined for literally no reason?
Maybe bot auto deleted? Idk
And quarantine was jussa joke
I can't see any logs of you being muted or anything along those lines...
Bot can sometime snag links etc
Lol
there probably wasn't a post for that time period ๐
Can you see #๐ฅใleaks-discussion probably you did collapse the chats.
okay you just figured it out........lol..................i have no idea how i got that confused...........the leaks discussion posts i thought was the general section and at the same time the general section collapsed on me.............that was a big rollercoaster of confusion
i get really hyper dumb sometimes...it amazes me...and my family too..it amazing them...i am amazing
snapshot is march 1st
yes correct......sale is over but snapshot delayed to march 1st
technically u have 30 seconds
I hope i didnt forget to hodl 2 alpha regular and mega... been a while so i forgot what i did ๐
I will push for a disk collection guys. I hope it becomes a thing one day.
Whats the ILV pool size now to distribute wave 3 LB rewards?
Oh yeah, we can get a final count now the wave is over ๐
Very curious as well!
Last I calculated I think we were a total of around 3,000 ILV
3260 on the last announcement.
Rogier already mentioned that it should within range of 3200 to 3600 i think
love to see a recap of all three waves and all three promos also
3260 is old data though, I was ranting in this thread about a month ago and that's when Rich checked it said it was standing at 3260
dear brethren... the w3 LB still buggy
I unsleavethed album and w3 points are still showing... and I cannot get the points total to change at all... it's been quite a while
@potent tulip
majority of the sales probably came early on though....so wouldnt imagine it is a ton higher than 3260 now....like i would predict 3500
dang...the wave 3 leaderboard is doing everything it can to grind our gears
and yup i just tested and same...wave 3 points totals wont change it seems...they just stuck
are we behind on legacy leaderboard rewards paymets or no?
looking at my payment history it is showing we are 2 payments behind
We are due 2 now, correct.
i thought being on passport was suppose to help with this
you know what you lot can keep complaining all you want about the leaderboard cuz the more you do the higher I climb gone from 28th to 17th ๐
but that was mostly because I pressed the wrong button ๐
You seem to be the only one capable of moving ๐
As lost some people that took care of it
And its not an easy swap over to another person
For security reasons
Hi, I have a few disks from Wave 3 unopened, is it worth to open them and add to the album or should I keep em and maybe in the future they become exclusive content for selling?
its a gamble...either way could end up being the better option
funny thing is i optimized for wave 3 and also moved up 1 place on the wave 1 leaderboard but accourding to your app I still not max points I will optimise that carfully after the wav3 snapshot
It is a great app for doing just that, but it isn't mine, that would be @runic glade
seems like that should have been thought of before firing someone...who you are changing their ability to be part of distributions. How about you taking over the job?
So what's up with the LB? @wide swan
Still stuck
Again I would if I could.
Youโre talking about controlling thousands of ILV in a wallet
Itโs not just a simple โtag someone inโ
W3 LB still broken or frozen...
Frozen?
points are not reflecting changes
if I unsleeve my album the same total remains for w3 even given ample time
if I alter w3 album still no changes
been like that for a day
Ok Iโll bring it up, the wave 3 lb usually took time to refresh either way. But a day is too much
ya is same with me....could unsleeve entire album and wave 3 LB points stay same....this is new issue
Leaderboard stopped with the sale as was originally intended but will be changed
Makes sense ๐ ๐
ohh yah makes sense
@wide swan , We need LB payouts to buy more things on the market ๐ ๐ค
Working on it
There any talks about using ilv to purchase items? Rather than selling just to send back as Eth
I hear fuel is the new eth
My wave 3 leaderboard is not updating instantly, is it stuck?
It was stopped automatically when wave 3 ended. @wide swan is chasing team to it fix it...
Thank you ๐
I hope as soon as possible. now that's the most important thing. so the wave3 extension makes no sense...the other important thing is the leaderboard payouts. Good job on the fix ๐๐
**REMINDER ** 
If you are competing in the Wave 3 Leaderboard, please remember to resleeve your Illuvitars using those steps:
- Fill prioritizing Wave 3
- Sleeve from scratch
Does this mean the recent freezing issue been rectified?
no no, not yet 
I just following my "lets repeat my message once a day" approach so as many ppl as possible can push the button ๐
Ah ok, no worries ๐ .
Could you make an announcement when the leaderboard is unfrozen again?
Or atleast pin a message here in this channel
I will make a post here ๐ซก for the official announcement, not sure what team plans
so now instead of a bugged leaderdboard we have a frozen leaderboard. What a way to kill the competition again...
I've been writing since the last wave 3 ranking update that it doesn't work... you can remove and add anything, the score doesn't change. I would also like a written regulation of what is calculated for wave 3 and what is not (T0 accessory backgrounds...). I would also like to know what the latest update considers and what it doesn't, given that the leaderboard has changed so much.
v Good evening everyone, I confirm that it doesn't work I just tied up an Illuritar Wawe 3 and my score only went up to the main ranking instead to the Wawe 3 ranking it remained the same .... I hope it will be resolved as soon as possible also because there are only a few days left ....
update is being worked on as we speak, team is trying to release it as soon as possible ๐
perfect thank you very much and good job
hopefully release our ILV also ๐
like to bring it up once a day so maybe it gets fixed lol
would that make any difference at this point? Do you guys sell ILV at these prices?
every time I sold ILV it's been the right decision ๐
The bad decision was reinvesting it back into the game lol
But it's good to have what's owed to us no matter what we choose to do with it
very rarerly this may happen, I will send it to devs and they will fix it ๐ซก
thnks Peter ๐
for the most revenue prodcuing product the team currently has they sure do a poor job of maintaining it
I can feel the effects of the cost cutting suddenly in beyond BAU activities already
this was the one area they should have added
instead firing the person who pays out rewards ๐
The timing of reducing beyond team is not right as we are now close of snapshot date. They should have done it early handover to avoid disruption during this time. Anyway, they know better than us on whats happening within a team
