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20 seconds seems like a stretch š
And when i said this people how didnāt playing that much on the main net just voted
It is opinion of course but we want to make sure it will be enjoyable and fun the game , that i play dota
But I played some matches on testnet and the health thing wasnt that noticeable to me. Or how was it for you?
All games on testnet seemed fine to me
Yea to me as well
and the funny thing is, they nerfed everything which should in theory reduce dmg but instead units die 10x faster š
cant grab the item lol
@worn tree
Hmmm, never saw an item in that position. Did it just spawn there Zadkiel?
when my bench fills with an item doing the animation of coming to the bench (on previous patch) they end up in all kind of spots, if this is what happened there
Perfect thx
Pls, keep voting here
most synergy not work if fight end in 10-20 sec.
templar? - usseles, especialy after nerf, steal 3-10 resist, then die/fight end.
invoker? - doing 1 cast, then fight end.
if plan was made rogue/vanguard/rhamphy good again - that work
same with augs which stack over time
literally the worst patch for me
its just a 10 second rogue bingo
Whole lobby is going for rogue stuff only. Got 4th place with behemoths and 3 WF and 3 templar.
Rogues and corner comps are definitely unhealthy for the game. Both require minimal skill and create a frustrating experience, especially in mirror matchups.
Balance in this patch is so off. How did this go through testing and to live, seems so rushed. Apart from the rewards hunters, many of us will probably just wait with playing until next patch if this aint fixed quickly.
100%. Literally my worst experience with the game ever
And they wanted to have the tournament on this patch šš
Maybe they could do a hotfix increasing the hp/resistance and go from there
Like come on if a jotun gets one shot by a random psion cast itās absurd. Before invokers needed 2 or 3 cast stacks before they could do that
Testnet wasnt even that bad. Dont know how it ended like this now
but the patch notes wouldn't explain that happening at all, there's legit no tankiness changes in there
in Testnet you have 3 weapons which was much better that other. i think they rework them, but no.
we got this OP weapons in live. and if you not got 1 of them at start, it will be much harder play
and psyon dmg or something else didn't increase either
octius which 1 shot at 4 psion buff, with some omega power augs.
I think the fact that we made health bars longer and we nerfed the last standing bastion of the tank meta made the fights more snappier and the feel of health bar depletion is playing a trick on our mind.
That being said, fights are a bit too fast now, it's a common sentiment. We will proceed and increase tankiness across the board by a bit, maybe add 5 resistance and a bit of HP on all units. And potentially decreasing the attack a bit.
Also nerfing octius, it indeed deals far too much damage
I think it's the only psion being too strong
Will see about each particular weapon in the future, it's less than 1 day into the patch. We will focus on the common feedback first.
so x4 dmg of any other units thats fine?
That's not what he said ... 
in testnet that was same, but it's come to live as i said before. you have 3-4 weapons which x2-3 better that other
sorry @worn tree but no trick on our mind, the timer never lies...fights last way too faster than the testnet build. cope with that.
so what is the trick on our mind
eli5
testnet was good
and way too faster is not a bit too fast eh, just saying
why couldnt we just copy the testnet build i dont get it
indeed
everyone was looking forward for testnet patch to drop on mainnet
why last sec things (not tested)
why let us test something that doesn t go to main net
Because they tried to improve on the feedback that they received...but then it lead to other issues
Pretty sure there were heaps of complaints on testnet as well...just sayin
no deno
sentiment was pretty good on testnet
you improve and test on testnet..you do not test a thing and deliver another
the community asked for testnet to just go mainnet haha
Yeah I gotcha but I can see what they tried to do...just answering the why
also only day 1. 90% of patches complains on day 1 change during the week
Whatās the sense of testnet if we got a 100% different experience now on Mainnet
@bronze spire ok..must be something that tricks our mind
testing features
why changing on the fly from testnet to main net
what is the meaning of "testnet" then
how did u "nnerf the tank meta" , there's kinda nothing in the patch notes about this
It wasnāt even a tank meta anymore
im guessing balance changes they wanted to make and patch dropping is good opportunity. Eg i thought all the composite nerfs were needed which was good. Dont get me wrong, a lot needs to change seems quite off so far
ye u played 1 bulawrk sometimes 3 in 1-2 comps per game, the rest played 1 or 0
Only with bulwark chips you actually had more bulwarks
ive only done 1 game
air might've given fake tankiness, but fighters with 0 bulwarks were durable so "tank bastion" doesn't explain faster fights unless u either pushed changes that u forgot to put in the patch notes, or straight up changed numbers without even meaning tto
Then you didnāt have a good octius opponent one shotting your shit
havent seen that yet haha
Or a ranger doing 20k dmg
saw nil say they need to nerf it tho
With the gun
yea seen ranger 1 shot
The only really tanky units I had just now were the mammut with 3 harbinger and ranger with granite harbinger. Had 3 tank augments including a legendary on the mammut tho. Other bulwarks were like paper
i played a couple games yesterday i thought the game as a whole felt even better then testnet. Obviously the balance is just no good with the adjustments
At least no more air meta lol
air wouldnt even be an issue anymore with easier access to fatesealer
Nature, empaths and tank meta units like Elk, Shoebill, Sloth and Komodo Dragon got nerfed. And we buffed aggro units like Pterodactyl, Moth and Taipan (Scoriox)
That was a direct hit on those units, which were dominating and made the fights slower
but these units only affected the very end of the curve, like in colossus with 50 second fights, (besides ador), fighters vs fighters with just 1 tank still took a while to resolve
worst balance patch ever!
and it doesn't explain psyons who tickled for 10%-15% hp prepatch killing jotun in 1 cast (if this is true)
Thank you everyone for the feedback. Please keep in mind that this wasn't a balance patch per seāit introduced major gameplay changes, and it was expected to throw off the balance quite a bit.
Rest assured, the team is already working on the next balance patch, and I believe weāll have better balance than ever very soon.
Make sure to play plenty of Testnet and share your feedback while patches are still in the testing phaseāthis helps ensure more stable releases to Mainnet.
Since the team had to cut QA, we as a community can really make a difference by testing and providing feedback.
Weāre also exploring more dedicated focus groups to improve communication between the community and the team from the council side, and discussions are already underway on how to make that happen.
It's not the same balance as it was on testnet. I've played a lot of games on testnet, and it wasn't a rouge massacre as it is now!
ye but testnet didn't have any balance changes i think
We are on Halcyon Sea and the bot is winstreaking š
is anyone still playing testnet? We got the same version on mainnet, right. or is there a different one on testnet ?
yeah nah only mainnet at the moment, nothing to test yet ^^
so why you are suggesting to keep playing testnet
I got my phosphorus killer bird 1 sec too lateš i had an arcenite imprint and still 20 gold. we need more time!!!
bonding resets when the illuvial evolves. really bad in endgame when you find something last second
Yeah @worn tree this one is the most annoying. I remember when it was 100x worse. But if we can add more QoL to moving and swapping Illuvials around, you'd really feel it.
We have something in the works for this
Is this happening to you consistently?
I had this every single time, in testnet. Also after equipping new weapon amplifiers and suit amplifiers
if the game could have a short term memory it'd be good. Eg if I am bonded to Grilla and I take my Grilla off to reset Augments then re add it shortly after. It should auto bond back.
Yes, on testnet it happened and we introduced a fix. If this is still happening we didn't fix it fully.
I would say so yes
i am gonna play my first mainnet in like 10 mins
There's a patch on its way
We will:
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Reduce attack damage of all units by 5.
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Increase resistance of all units by 5.
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Increase health of all units by 100.
And also a nerf on Octius Omega Damage.
Has there been a change in those values now comparing the previous patch to this?
No, otherwise we would have shared
Everything that changed was stated in the balancing patch notes
but why is it that octius omega feels so oppressive now with no change towards those values?
either octius got way stronger or units got weaker in hp and res
both werent in patch notes tho
same applies to rhamphite. I see in patch notes that only the energy cost got reduced. No dmg increase. Previously it wasnt able to one shot tanks or a phosphorus so consistently
no one playing 5 bulwark and empath nerf, also fortress nerf. Not sure if that explains it though
I did try with 5 bulwark, even had 2 behemoths and got wrecked by octius / rhamphite omegas. Even phosphorus died to some normal psion hits. Previously you needed invoker stacks for that
hmm true, so suggesting something not intended has changed or a bug?
I feel like all units got either res & hp down or dmg up for some units idk
i mean this is very easy to test, do hp values in the tourney last patch correspond to live now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MXVj9v2xf4
i also notice this that lynx isnt even needed anymore in early game
because all units do crazy dmg
Gauntlet Ranked currently disabled?
yay i won a game, finally! 
Casual?
Kidding
Well done
ty Lars
Did you try to leave the menu and come back?
arena is disabled for me, if anyone have a fix let me know thanks, both casual and ranked, yes I did, I even press surrender, my last game was 20 hours ago
Gratz!
thats neat! where do you find that info?
It's on my personnal projet illuviVault under developpement
I'm playing from epic games client, not sure if thats gonna help
||Ask Linkky when its coming out||
Have you tried to reverify the illuvium game Files in Epic?
Octius too strong lol it aim the farthest now
I just played my first game in mainnet and saw this happen. However I didn't evolve the illuvial that was bonded. It simply reset the bonding, probably after the caroussel (not sure) and I played a couple rounds without bonding. Only after loosing one round I realized something was off.
Regarding the fast fights, I 100% subscribe what others have mentioned and the game feels off rn
I played testnet and the experience was not the same. Something is different on this mainnet version
Something changed that I didn't read in the patch notes.
Could be that, on ascention and amplifier selection I keep the bonding always. Will explore what you said of carousel.
The reason behind going first on testnet was to avoid main net "surprises". Now pls explain why the testnet build differs from the one you push on main, thx.
So I was checking last match and I kept the bonding this time through evolving. Need to see if it happens after carousel or with other instances. But I still believe it sometimes drops the bonding with evolving
for me its the same after evolving sometimes
drop bonding after evolving?
jub
then it seems to be a bug if it applies to more people now
I just tried to re-verify from epic games, re-login the game, still disabled all arena games š¦
are composite chips in carousel available only in a certain round or full rng?
If I spectate an enemy in the round immediately before the carousel, I will be placed outside the frame and will be unable to join the carousel. Also, once I am in this state, I will be unable to join any carousels thereafter.
@worn tree
I had the same thing while writing a ticket
@west plume - can you look, it loads a different account name, my Account is MVPJuLs but upon entering it shows on a quick flash CuteLittleLynx#1234
@worn tree #š£ćannouncements message Thanks
Arena is now working after the patch, thanks
I was able to get 4 shock last game š solid 8th place
Game is just not long enough for the effect to do anything
Let's see how it is now
Showtime
I had unbond happen after the carrousel
How did the ti'ru line just become straight broken?
It worked?
the file verification didn't, but the patch from dev team fixed it hehe
5/8
Patch feels much better now with the health change @worn tree
Also positive: The shop seems to "work" way better now in finding illuvials that you should find %-wise. Also if people get eliminated they seem to return correctly. At least it felt like that in the 8 matches that I did now. Getting to S3 illuvials is way more accessible now š
is it just me or the composite chip never matches my team? 
Happens to all of us
feels bad tbh
you mean the chip from the box you get?
yea that should be from a box in round 20+
its not yet tailored to your team, dunno if thats gonna happen
I think tailoring is coming
I find composite chips in the carousel way more annoying
Glad it feels that way
There's still a lot of work to do balance wise, please keep the feedback coming
Guys, if you move your bonded unit from the board to the bench, it loses the bonding. I think most of you know this but leaving this here just in case.
casual easy
I missed the carrousel for spectating another player and my ranger got unbonded on the last round, maybe it was because of that?
How many augments can we game in one game ?
I see some game with 13 augments
Can we maybe add the plus icon again to the ranger if thereās no bond? So instead of the bonded illuvial we show the big plus icon to know that bonding is available? It was like that in ascendant
Makes it more visible that thereās no bond
or maybe the empty illuvial sillouette
this one
just put that little symbol in there when youre not bonded
here i concepted it out haha
I think it would be nice to have a small pop up text or animation when you unbound.
Sometimes I put a unit on the bench and right back to remove items, but I forget it was the bonded init.
Yes, we are working on it š
Rogues got rekt š
Looks photoshoped
Attention all Arena Players: Please if you can post your end game screen shots, so our game design team can easily/quickly visualise builds/meta/comps etc for balance purposes.
Just saying ā the Illuvium API already provides this data. So why doesn't Illuvium have an internal tool to support the design team with it yet?
I'd be happy to help if the goal is to accelerate the process and bring more efficiency to the team's workflow.
Going to touch some grass, brb
We do
This is just a different method
So itās more for sentiment of the players
yay
The best player is in your game
@frozen tartan is going to rekt you āļø
shots fired
Iām not playing right now and none of those are my alts
Aren't you Sl1ckz? š
Naw I sold that account to some noob
dumb game
Is it normal that most all illuvial on your team get almost 3 augments ? Feel to much abondance
66% the team 6/9, have have 3/3 augments, is that normal ? .. just asking opinions here
how can the team that won beat my team.. ? Vanguard is totally broken
with the current patch.. its way too much RNG
Hyper is useless. Malura one-shots my team
I feel like there is too many augments as well. We have so many things to do.
My current feedback is that there is too much to do both in the fights and in between rounds. We will see if I am able to adapt, as this is just the beginning of the new patch, but I feel overwhelm.
At the same time kids nowdays need to have a constant wave of stimulation, maybe I am just too old
I don't like this fixed weapon thing. At least you always had a chance before - now I just can't be arsed when I'm stuck wuth something I don't want
I donāt like it as well, it introduces way too much RNG
I pretty much check out
To the Illuvium Team,
@worn tree @zenith mortar @umbral oracle , I just wanted to sayāyesterday I felt a bit overwhelmed when I saw how different the game felt compared to the testnet. The testnet was smooth, and the transition caught me off guard. But today, you and the team really proved that you listened to us and understood what the issues were.
I want to sincerely thank you for the hard work youāre doing. Please keep goingāwe believe in you. Thatās why weāre still here, playing, giving feedback (even when weāre frustrated), because we want the game to succeed, to be fun, and to be something we all understand and enjoy.
Thanks again for hearing us. Youāre making something great.
did he get 4 vanguad with the weapon?
if 4 vanguard + 3 frost + 3 revenant + 6 air with dodge, that can hurt even with hyper
I'll say I like this patch the best... encouraging dynamic comps feels better than a one way show
5/8
can someone explain this
hyper is doing nothing
against nature? lost too
is fire just bad? š
It's been bad for a while now
@worn tree please BUFF fire units, its ridiculous to be 5th in this lobby with 4 magma, 3 phantom and decent augments
lost both fights against AIR and Nature...
Scoriox had 400 att dmg with stacking att speed and that augment that converts DMG into energy dmg
not gonna touch fire ever again after this lol
We both went after inferno phantom š
Didn't work well for any of us
@thick estuary this should be forbiden bro š
@worn tree true sight is immune to blind? from dust or krunk?
haha agree, also 2 aegis boosted him hard
right as they nerfed nature too lol
I would have taken that to the bank
what place did you take in that lobby and what was your final team .... I am curious to see what you did when gifted with 3 nature tabs
I just won a game , and it didnt count the MMR. I guess it started before 00:00 and ended after and server is bugged. Will the MMR count after a while?
We“ve been with this reset bug like a lot of days already, pls, fix it.
4/8
@languid sparrow do you know if this last game scored? i just played and ended 2nd but no MMR.
No MMR = ?
nope, like if the game didn“t exist.
it started before 00:00, i ended 2nd position, and i still have 1276 MMR, which i had before this game
this is becoming the doomed time to play /:
1276 LB ... I don't have that number.
How many game did you played today ?
i can“t remember, but last game was with Orace, and a guy called Podpivasiq was 1st place. I was second place.
I had 1276 MMR , and still the same.
Kster is the nick im using right now.
yep
This happens everyday at reset time. Game will start eventually after 20-30mins +
I have over 135 matches for today... you only appear once... and it was
"startTime": "2025-06-05 08:10 UTC
"endTime": "2025-06-05 08:50 UTC
same utc error
i have 8 games, and i think 9 with the one didn“t score.
When in the first game the carousel was broken and my drone was off to the side, I thought it was a bug.
No big deal.
Then the second time ā still no big deal.
Now a new match.
First time ā carousel broken.
Second time ā carousel broken.
Third time ā carousel broken.
My drone was always on the left, and I wasnāt able to choose an augmentation.
This isnāt complaining ā itās stating a fact: we urgently need a hotfix for this bug.
anyway it seems it was on my side, because the guy that won 1st place has his score updated.
Well, relaunched, and still error 400 matchmaking error is all that happens when I push the find ranked button
dont really know if it“s a new bug , or just bad luck
this exactly lobby, or "the game" in general?
The lobby will start and u need to reconnect. if u don“t u will enter the game as a ghost.
so the only workaround is to close the game from time to time and wait for the game to start.
at least in my experience, like 3 times, has been like that.
Yes the elo comes after a while, this always happens around daily 00:00 UTC
@languid sparrow any chance to know what happened with this data ?
Oh, ty, i didn“t knew that
You only played 1 game don't you ?
My leaderboard is matching illuvium LB so.... I don't know where you played those 7 more games ? Where they ranked games ?
yeah, of course they were ranked . I just changed my name after that first game. could be that the issue ?
if u enter the game right now i“m 33 on the leaderboard.
Under what name did you played ?
@languid sparrow the game scored already
it seems it syncronices itself with the time the game after 00:00 starts
something happens behind the scene with the server and updates some minutes after 00:00
now i have 9 games , and my correct MMR.
29th? Pssh - rookie. Git gud noob.
Yeah, sorry you are too good 
it seems you haven“t won a 1st place either Kwhajaja
I am the middest of the mid. First place requires knowledge and I have none.
Welcome to the kings of 2nd places party XD
Exactly how f'ed am I right now?
...
Last game happened the same.. I could join the match just after round 4 or 5
Same
Now I am stuck with you I guess
I on
Gg @thick estuary brutal 4 dust 4 enchantersš
ggš
The time is still too less after the pve round with the invokers
And the bonding takes too much time. Especially when it stops with the slightest mouse movement. It was way easier with the plus icon and selecting the illuvial that you want to bond. Plus it was pretty much instant instead of those 3 seconds or whatever. @worn tree
Yeah it got cancelled even though we put it at the ranger sometimes it load 3-5 times before it full
And the carousel? The one spinning I got bugged can't move my drone to take the units

And still got the ball from the pve battle stucked . Before it happened I press other people then i can never took it
Bonding also disappeared after carousel round for me
I have the same issue. How are you supposed to move the drone anyway? Double click, right click???
Right click normally
The same how you move your drone also on the Battle board to collect orbs
never realize casual games filled faster
this new arena format is way better imo
except I havent figured out how to select illuvials in the carousal round
Casual games are typically against AI bots unless someone else queues for casual games at the same time.
During the carousel round, right click the mouse to move your drone to which illuvial you want. The door opens for your drone based on what position you currently are. E.g. last place means you get 1st pick of the carousel whilst being 1st means you get last pick. Hope this helps
Is there a guideline for these features as they move from testnet to mainnet? I mean we are not all testers
Itās typically in the release notes yes
Thank you
But there is a known bug right now with carasouel they are working on
Ok thanks.. but it would be good to have in the guideline on how to react...first time it appeared to me, I was clicking everything...like trying to drag augments, drag illuvials around, clicking everywhere (other drones) opening stats and got frustrated as some illuvials disappeared and got into somebody else and then clicking and ending up with an illuvial I didn't want in the first place
It is not intuitive for somebody to see it first time
I got 2nd. Got revenant chip so went 4 revenant, 3 dust 6 air
First place had 7 fighter with aegis and true sight. Ryplancer was doing 20k DMG alone 
They use Templar fighters?
carousel existing is the known bug š
Rogue too strong can't do much
Just check more , they are team what bit rogue
T1S2 unit. 15k dmg and tank 10k?
Yes , i will do it any critical dmg that it is doing feal a 65 dmg around him that the revent do it
Read what revenant class do it
fighting in the air
New map , i donāt have this map
Revent a bit brokem
we have been there before.. was the worst patch š it's been a while
Yes
That 2 augument it is give a 45 critical dmg , come bro š i know you know
Rough it is back !
rifstriker augment broken, if stack 2. i'm sure problem in that
@worn tree had a bug in my game:
took a nature imprint in my very first crate (round 2) and then got a nature imprint as a drone augment - but I never got the second one.. I ended up with just one.
The issue is tiru passive, it stacks ad for 5 seconds after takedown
This creates a death spiral in which it can be dealing 500+ attack damage per attack
Nerf inc
Thx, investigating
the drone augment came with a titan bloom (which I got) but the imprint did not show up
Fixed internally, will come with next build deployment
Hmm, aren't 3 Colossus and 3 Invoker+ good anymore?
you did quite well. I was struggling a lot against you
you are just lacking damage items
Yeah, if I had better items on Octopus, I could've wonāI didn't have trouble with rogue teams, so your Air was a problem, unfortunately. I fought you twice at the end
Let's say it was due to bad luck š
Do you know what triggered this? Anything specific?
It happened at the beginning of the game, then went back to normal after draft, maybe just loading problem
I think so, not sure
@tropic forge what's your nickname in game?
Kster
It seems you finished 2nd and got 13 points. Updated from 1276 to 1289.
I've found this in our logs:
Updating leaderboard for Kster with 1289
Podpivasiq won
Yeah, thx. i updated my situation here
it seems server takes like 45mins + after 00:00 “s reset to update MMR if u are playing on a game that starts before reset and ends after it.
1 broken and other not?
If you don't trigger the death spiral, of course
from start of combat his ti'ru doing x2 of my dmg
Insane @worn tree well played
GG @ashen mango HAHAHAHAHA really cool game
My boy did not go down so easily š¤£š¤£
This was a big boi
Your Pterodactyl was a MELTER
1 cast, nuked 80% of my tank team
there are some balancing adjustments needed
I agree
Let's nerf Titanor š¤
The Aqua Blaster reminds me of Caitlyn from TFT
This thing is a sniper riffle
It didnāt have even phantom š³
It had the crit augment
No need with this item
That him lose it
I mean if you have phantom
The dmg was big
I have rhamphyte and i do critical 7.6k
This item is better than phantom
Because it gives more OP and crit chance as well
Actually phantom gives OP but basically it's as if I had phantom
Totally understand it i just i said if you have phantom was one shot everything
Crazy
Nil, take a look at the region distribution from the 39 matches played so far today
I mean i understand that i just said if was phantom was a different storry
Lets not nerf ramphy into oblivion again pls š
That a good point !
It is the main Illuvial it is a charizard on Illuvium word
and a nice counter to the hated corner positioning ^^
it's just such a black and white scenario, either it one shots and feels op, or it doesn't one shot and it feels bad
Why is the sample size so low?
You mean the 39 matches ?
It's the daily report in fact
The use is not for analysing the data, it's only to show the data daily.
I love data, please keep screenshots coming! š @languid sparrow
The Analytics section in the menu will be the Vault of data š š§ š
This section will be next level (data are just place holders in the Core Vault Dashboard)
A Dashboard of Dashboards , it's mindblow lol
We all know the Illuvium Universe can be complex ā this will be the go-to place for deep insights and clear understanding.
I notice that FPS are way lower during the game and i didnt change configurations at all.
Also many bugs in game. Even the bug report window "B" its buggy and cant report from game.
Talking about gauntlet.
There's a new hot fix patch incoming guys
@zenith mortar you have 1039 elo now?
Will we be able to drop illuvials on board without the click again? I think this is what was changed unintentionally last time
Pretty close only 1 game separing you from each other ?
It's a balance patch.
To your point, tho, we are working on a system that allows to place illuvials, equip items and bond with click-drag-release.
This one is tricky to implement and we are unsure when it will be ready, but we will do our best to bring it to you guys.
This will make all the preparation phase actions less cluncky and more dynamic, essentially giving players back some valuable seconds.
announcement soon?
Thank you Linkky
Soon
GG @noble geode that last round was very close š
is it nerf for this on patch?
Yes
GG @mighty tulip my Jotun went to axon instead of your synalph
lol
https://x.com/Phantom_ilv/status/1930264091962077597
Don't forget Lads, we are hosting another Tournament tomorrow, Noon UTC!
do you have a discord server?
yes, you can find it via #1169004294473793597
ok thanks!
lok at this... ti ru did as much damage as rhamphyre? this is first and second place. Would have thought I would do quite good with all the psion t5 xD
Tiru had 100% crit chance and crit amp boosted
combined with 3 revenant, is very powerful
ti ru just got nerfed, guess thats the old patch?
yes, but he is a t1 second stage
game started before patch - hope this is fixed š
I know, I beleive a patch is coming to nerf it
this should fix it @worldly token
I did not see any update true my client and ingame it's still showing patch 1.10.0 vs 1.10.0a.
is this normal ?
It's upsetting how bad the game is right now.
pls be more precise, feedback is value but need some more words.
balancing patches are usually server side only
At this point I've spoken for years about the issues and have long realized my opinion means nada. I just need to cut the cord and get over the sunk cost at this point. But, in respect to your wish Quants, here are some thoughts:
I mean we all know the issues... it's overly complicated and just keeps getting more overly complicated. Balance has almost comically eluded everyone who's ever worked for this company. The new carousel is just... lolbad. The bugs that we've had for years are still here. Connection issues, lag, performance issues - all still here - but hey we have a new comeback mechanic that wasn't needed at all and completely ruins any immersion a player may have felt and also offers no chance of a comeback, but hey the already too long games are now longer! yay.
Picking up those augment crates - LOL.
The new weapon system completely blows. Why? Lack of agency. Complete lack of agency. Last game my three choices were psion, psion, and psion. Every other player? 7 rogues. so naturally I finish last because I HAD NO CHOICE WHAT TO PLAY. This isn't difficult, but very clearly someone making decisions does not know wtf they are doing. That's been obvious forever, but we can't talk about it for... reasons. There is an issue. It must be discussed or it never gets fixed. The constant pushback to those who speak out is actually detrimental to the overall success of the project, not beneficial.
Games are too long, queues are too long, and fun is too short.
What's needed? Simplicity. The most important and perhaps most difficult part of making a game/series of games is keeping it simple. Especially on the surface. Complexity should be nicely tucked under the hood. lowering the amount of augments was a good thing. Introducing the carousel - bad. More does not equal better. In fact, in this instance more is less. Much less.
What else is needed? Balance. Balance. Balance. The shift to triple augments was just shooting yourself in the foot. Nobody asked for this, but now the game is even more unbalanced. And it's an unforced error that nobody asked for. Just wild to me. And it's simple and obvious. Tiru doing 2x the damage of the rest of both teams combined is just so dumb.
Patch notes clearly not lining up with the changes made. No point in patch notes guys if they're not complete. And then the gaslighting afterwards - more lolz.
If this team actually wants to make this game a success - and I even doubt that at this point - they need to allow players - all players - even those who finish last - to actually BUILD A TEAM. A strong one - a full one. The game right now is just blue balls city. You get halfway through making the team you want and it's lol game over. There is no pivoting at all. Which makes Hyper a garbage mechanic.
*By balancing patches you mean hot fix ? *
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@void dust your points are worth a lot.
triple augs: not needed..make some combo way to powerful wen rng kiss you.
Game being way too complicated for anyone beside hardcore players.
I love bonding mechanic but "as u said" having the 3 weap limitation and again hoping for good rng to just survive the match is really a pain.
Carousel is a joke..but i am biased since the very beginning..I do really not like this circus kind of things.
Game needs an accurate and constant balance hard work.
We knew that with bonding, weap upgrades (I love them) and suits upgrades (love them too) the amount of tweaks needed to rebalance the game were massive but I rekon the team now is way more reactive and push hotfixes very quickly. I am still faithful, the game can become a pillar in this niche genre, but need focus, dedication and light speed balance and rebalance wen things go crazy (like the tiru recently š ) or stuff that make you a God among the mortals for no skill reason but by luck.
anyone else crashed?
I was in caroussell, the game crashed and got no reconnect
at least 3 players were out already
not 8th place
@languid sparrow can you have acess to that game?
its still ongoing im sure
What you mean ?
Can only see details once the game is ended.
Just ping me, going back to coding
New weapon augments are a disaster. The game was fun, but this doesnt make sense.
1 patch ruined the whole game lol
can you check now please?
thats upsetting low level of encouragement from a regular player, This is a IP which gets some of its strength from the community of players itself... So lets project success!
Iām usually the one who calls things out when I feel like weāre not heading in the right direction, but honestly everything the team has been working on lately feels like a real improvement for the game. Theyāve been doing a great job, especially since the testnet patch went live.
I do think we still need more than just 3 weapons during the game. Maybe introduce a few more options later on, like around round 12 or 17, to give players more flexibility.
Also agree that we donāt really need the carousel. Right now it doesnāt deliver the same impact as in TFT. Itās missing the comeback mechanic and that dopamine RNG hit. But honestly thatās a pretty easy fix.
Overall though Iām starting to feel like the game is actually getting really good. The last big thing we need is tailoring and once thatās in weāll be in a really good spot!
Great work so far @worn tree @wide aspen @topaz lake and who ever is working on the current patch š„
3/8 come on we can do it š
Feedback from a casual player whose elo sucks.
I find this latest rendition of Gauntlet to be the most complicated and hardest to play. Maybe that is intentioned, maybe you want to target the more hardcore player and keep it interesting for them. My thoughts definitely come from my lack of skill at the game.
I don't have every team and every augment memorized. This rendition of the game penalizes me more for that than past ones did.
I preferred having a larger range of weapons and getting to choose. By being able to pick from only 3 weapons early on I am forced into directions that I may not know how to play because again, I don't have everything memorized. Then I start getting Illuvials that don't even match and I find it hard to build anything cohesive.
The carousel is supposed to benefit the player who is sitting at the bottom of the rank. That doesn't work with the complicated augments. Leave them as the red, yellow, purple ones only - that's easy to understand. I don't have all the pictures memorized so you may let me go first but you aren't really helping me. Plus they are too close together and I end up grabbing the wrong one. It feels like a carnival claw machine. Maybe I just need practise.
Ranger bonding I love but it takes too long to bond. I already struggle with a lack of time to get everything done. In Round 1 there could be an arrow telling us to bond to an Illuvial for new players.
When the drone augments come up it would be nice if we could access our panel on the left to see which Illuvials we have on our team that could match. Example if I get a "Harbinger" drone augment it would be good if I could scroll and see that the Atlas I have on my bench will become a Harbinger. Or even have the pictures of the Illuvials that are Harbinger show up when we hover on the drone augment card.
I have to ask why aren't weapons locked in a way where you always have 3 different classes to pick from if not even 3 different classes + 3 different natures
2/8 
Went for a ride of 50min, relaxing, eating and will ping you
I suspect that the game was cancelled
I don't think my ranking changed, so probably everyone got DC
Thank you, SL1Ckz, for your words, help and commitment. We still have quite a few things on our to-do list that need refining and improving:
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Carousel: Should we improve it? Or create a simpler comeback mechanic? Or remove it altogether?
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Tailoring, incoming.
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A simpler grid system, WIP.
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Improved weapon choices. How to do it?
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Overall simplicity.
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Guidance tooltips, incoming.
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Quality of life improvements.
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Lesser PC spec requirements, WIP.
Some of these are already in progress, while others still need further thought. I do believe weāre making steady progress, but itās important that we continue to make the right choices. To achieve this, I think itās essential that we strengthen our connection with the community. Weāre actively working on that, and the first step will be a survey, but I think this survey should mark the beginning of a stronger link with team and community that let's us anticipate the success of our decisions. We finally have a product that is fully fleshed, the issue now is that it is too fleshed, and we need to sculpt it, to make it simpler and more polished into a simple, fun, and fair game that appeals to both casual and competitive players alike.
With IMC and ICC already making significant and strategic moves, I believe we are well positioned to take the next steps effectively. The dedication and positivity of so many in the community are truly invaluable to the success of the IP. We must not only maintain this momentum but also step up our efforts.
Thank you all for your dedication, polite feedback and support. Have a great weekend!
Thank you, we take notes šš»
carousel in tft starts being a comeback mechanic mid-late game+, when u can get 4/5 costs which are way harder to find in tft than here. What carousel is actually supposed to be is not a comeback mechanic but a fix bricks mechanic, as in - u have 2 components that are bad together, you fix that with carousel and make something you want. But this is also less impactful here cuz there's only 3 components.
I sure hope you are able to find success where so many others found only futility. I'm rooting for you.
@sinful hornet who has better comp for you? I think i just mis positioned or wrong augment on illuvials
4 aegis on me 4 frost on him
I think that having 25 weapons but being able to reroll them like we do with augments would be way better.
Having the choice to change weapons somewhere between round 12 and 22 would be good as well.
We could then simply replace weapon amplifiers with other weapon amplifiers for the new weapons, as long as they're from the same category (like damage buff, opponent debuff, ally buff, etc).
As a side note, I often get the impression that the game is trying to prevent rigid players from having fun. Patch after patch, the prospect of spamming the same team over and over again becomes more and more disincentivized... to the point where we now can't just play how we want due to being locked into certain comps with the weapons we get.
But even if being rigid shouldn't be optimal for peak performance, it should still be possible to have fun that way. By design, this game already invites flexibility since people can contest you, and Hyper adds tons of counterplay. So there's no need to force flexibility on players even more.
seems he have not only frost. it's behemoth and vanguard as well
that's not me i don't have a . in my name
made 1 week/2week/month season, where weapons will be replaced, so we get different combos also sounds cool
it's probably fox lol
lmao i see i see that's why he knew
You sent your PFP to fox? š
Oh I just read the previous messages nevermind
Nice troll š
How do you choose a illuvial In the drafting stage lol? That's some terrible design without any explanation
fox changes his name like twice a week
And what's the drafting anyway about? You'll get more illuvial of that type there on or what
that's not my pfp either
you say that will not play this season and now almost top-1....
always lying strat
crash before waepon choice = altf4
Nobody here knows to tell me how the draft illuvial interface works?
I've somehow made it move but I've no idea I keep pressing everything
It's not explained because it's a direct port from TFT's system, so it's assumed that everyone is familiar...which isn't great...but that's what it is
and how does it move the drone lol
kk i found out, ty a lot
@valid stirrup that shield is so broken. I put 20k damage into your ranger and it did nothing š¤£. GG
The only game I have from the database is the one you just finished and got +38 LP
The most annoying part for me is how fast the drone moves and how little space between the dudes there is. It makes it very hard to get to the one you want without bumping into another accidentally
Gauntlet Division event is coming.
Prove your skill over 4 days of ranked gauntlet play to dominate your division and earn a share of the 60 ILV Prize Pool.
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This is so strange...
So one game was completely ghost, did not happen, even though I got the error at round 15+
I assume everyone got the same error and couldn't join the match anymore
Just me or does it feel like the early game rng can really easily pigeon hole you into a doomed game?
Did you remember who was in the game ?
That's the problem, I don't š
But at least I didn't lose any ranking... I'm more relieved š
@violet summit sometimes (rare cases) the match pop up way later than expected
@worn tree can you find any info on that game? We were at least round 15+ and apparently everyone got an error and it's like it never happened
Around 3PM UTC
I don't think that's the case
I was playing and in the 2nd carousel, I got DC and an error message that put me back into main screen again
No button to rejoin
weird
I agree with the overall sentiment that being locked into 1 out of 3 weapons super early into the game feels bad.
Either give more options or let me reroll in someway later.
About the Carousel. I like it a lot. The style of it and the mechanic, it has more skill expression than the one in TFT. I think if we give people time they will come to like it, instead of being overwhelmed by it.
The problem I have with it is the clunkyness. The Units are too big, the Augment pictures scale weirdly in size depending on the position in the circle, overall I feel like we are just zoomed in way too much and that's why it feels so hectic and "in your face".
We all have big screens, zoom out and make the illuvials the same size as on the board for visual consistency and clarity.
That will also enable us to increase the distance between them and make it beginner friendlier.
Overall love the direction the game is going and such an amazing patch, thank you for the hard work and dedication @ Illuvium Labs
Ah - finally someone who likes the carousel. What do you like about it?
Im a ghost on someone“s game? i can“t look for a game, Finding Match but no number. Restarted the game, my pc, everything... what“s this?
again game crash before waepon choice ahhhhhh lovely so lovely
To be honest I kind of changed my mind on the carousel
I like the agency it gives, not sure it's positive value for Illuvium but I wouldn't mind if we keep it
i would like if the illuvials would been shown all from the start cause otherwise the benefit from beeing last place is kinda not there
100% agree
and the drone ( avatars ) need to look more different it is now always need to search where i am haha
should always be at the same position for yourself imo
im sorry to say this but i dont enjoy this new arena patch as much. perhaps it will get better with time but as for now i feel there WAY too much going on, just want to play and chill man..
even the carousel is a struggle
oh didnt knew haha but the first carousel still
yea na... just my opinion.
like always be the drone at the top or at the bottom.
I admit that it's quite draining
exactly. thats the word i was looking for thanks
I need to take naps after 8 games or so š
But I have low endurance, maybe it's different for other players
can agree but i still keep playing even if my head hurts haha
i wish I knew more
What do you mean?
Idk if yall seen
This could be a simpler and more efficient carousel design
I love to see all this feedback today, thanks for sharing @void dust @spring basin @vivid stone @vivid stirrup @ashen mango @sinful hornet and the others!
Heres my pov on the main topic discussed
Carousel I personally, currently dont enjoy it because it makes the game longer, its hard to reach your units without getting other units by acciddent, the difference between illuvials/components/items is too small for it to be considered a comeback mechanic (even r22/27 sometimes) and i feel it breaks the flow
Theres is potential though, maybe
*Weapons: I actually enjoy the fact that we cant force a single type of comp and are somewhat limited by our initial choice. I feel we are still quite flexible from there because even without a rogue weapon for example you can still build a phantom, aegis, vanguard top tier rogue team for example
Some weapons and amplifier are quite unbalanced which doesnt help but thats to be expected in the first iteration
I like hollow suggestion of having 3 different class &/or affinity. Perhaps just not being able to get all 3 of the same would also be enough. I also really like slickz suggestion of having another weapon round r17. I think that would open not some interesting pivots to adjust to the opponents and what we got so far item/illuvial wise while just overall simply giving more agency and choice to everyone
Im really excited that gauntlet is now feature complete! Lets all work together to make this polishing and balancing phase as good as possible 
Allowing for a weapon reroll of each would be a good fix⦠6 options at the start
It really doesn't feel great when you are halfway into a build only to see that first place is doing the same build but already has all the units you want...another run doomer
There just isn't enough time between rounds to check every single other comp to see who is stealing your stuff, and there aren't enough units to go around for everyone to run totally different stuff
how about going into the battle already with your own weapon set? say 2 or 3. then switch between them as you wish
the carousel is hellš„
a bit less rng. you know better what build you can go for. 1 less choosing screen (i mean cmon theres so many of them)
Can carousel animation just be like ADR animation? Just teleport over there and zap that damn thing lol. Already have a hard time thinking about what we need or what we get to deny others getting.
could work also... 6 options up front... choose two... I think 3 is too many tho
yeah i just posted it as an idea
lets see what people think
Also, im red/green colorblind. Can you make the red a little darker lol. Impossible for me see the difference between those two augment. But obviously that's a very small portion of the players. Not a major problem. Just saying.
no i mean, buy your own weapon or two, choose them. Then queue
like before even starting the game
Might also be worth having the mouse over tooltips for the augments work correctly. They glitch out a lot, which makes it hard to know what's available.
idk about before game... but wouldn't mind if it was the first thing on game start
i think it would be cool to plan a bit before a game but maybe thats just me
think of it like picking your character so not everyone is the same when the 8 go in
Maybe make the intro logo skippable too so we can reconnect faster
Also, does anyone know how the sudden death damage works? Because it frequently kills me when I have more health than my opponent. This feels a bit counter intuitive to say the least
having 3 different class weapons &/or affinity should be a given for such an impactful and limited choice. I like the idea of another weapon later in the game. But I would like to have the option to choose between the 2 weapons whenever I want and not simply swap the previous weapon with the new.
@worn tree Hi, my friend.
At first, I thought it was just a coincidence, but it's happening way too often.
I played a game yesterday. The carousel worked 0 times correctly.
Then I played another one. Again, 0 times the carousel worked properly.
Today I played 1 game. The carousel worked correctly 0 times.
What exactly is triggering this bug? I canāt play normally.
Usually there are two scenarios:
Option 1: My drone is stuck on the left side of the map. I canāt move it.
Option 2 (a new one): Now my ranger is standing in the upper-left part of the map. I canāt move them either.
I think that it's related to spectator mode, when I don't spectate anyone I don't have this bug
I had a similar bug several times and even if my drone seemed stuck outside of the carousel I could still pick an illuvial as if my real drone was in the carousel and could move normally but was invisible to me
So you need to know where your real drone is and when it's your time to pick up an illuvial try to pick it when it's right in front of your starting position
@ashen mango My friend, I wrote a huge message filled with emotion.
But emotions are inappropriate here. Iāll keep all that frustration inside.
Iāll just say that I want a major rework of this āwonderfulā mechanic.
I have no more polite words left.
@worn tree for the waepon part are 3 possible solutions for me , 1. make the waepon choice at the start from 3 to 5 , 2. reroll possibility for waepons , another waepons choices in later rounds ( either u get a 2nd waepon or the first one will get replaced )
We are working on the issues on the carousel related to scouting.
It should improve after that, but most likely there are more triggers bugging it. We have to polish it Winnie, thank you for your patience.
Thank you for keeping it polite Winnie. Really appreciate you šš» It will be resolved.
Thank you for always staying in touch and fixing the game.
Weāll be waiting.
Noted šš»
I really liked his idea about weapon rerolls.
We were discussing this today too in voice chat.....ether more weapons like 5 with 1 re-roll or the 3 we have with 2 re-rolls. Full disclosure, some were fine with the current way
I especially liked this new bug.
I was supposed to get Nature augments,
but instead I got this:
@ashen mango If I donāt go āvisitā my opponents ā will the bug not appear?
I'm about it #š®ćilluvium-arena message
dude how about making a content with favorite bugs? XD
btw game is bugged atm or is it safe? 00:00 utc thing
anyone stuck or ingame?
not again with 8/8 totally forgot FML
Am I in the game?
Yes please, more options regarding the weapons choice š
Too lazy š
I got to 8/8 and now match error
What do you mean?
Me too
last night neraba lied to me and I stuck too XD haha
I mean dat 8/8 stuck thing happening everyday
At a specific time or something?
you should not quit queue and wait about 30-90 mins XD
otherwise keep spamming for that time š
yeah everyday 00:00 - 01:30. sometimes 30-40 mins, sometime 1.5 hours
How does this bug affect the rating, win rate, and other stats?
you should wait until the game starts.
or ask someone in queue to tell you when it starts š
you will be in game
next time just dont cancel
and watch a movie while waiting XD
Did I get you right:
I need to click the "find ranked game" button continuously for 40 minutes?
And then Iāll be able to play?
@worn tree My friend, sorry for tagging you so often, but you need to be aware of the situation.
Either I click the "find ranked game" button for 40ā90 minutes, or I lose rating.
This is unreal cringe.
or maybe ask @ebon aspen to tell you when it starts. it seems like he is still in queue
UTC?
that is why I don't queue between 00:00-01:30 XD
yes daily reset
03:00 for me and russian time I suppose
depends on my mood cause I might just say fck it and log off š¤£
daily reset
UP gogogo
game
if you ever did it, just dont cancel and wait while watching something š
oh it is up he says
please tell me if it is up
game is on? wow in 21 mins?
it was about 90 mins last time x_X
tnx dude I will too š
damn it :///
seems like every game is individually having this bug...
matchmaking error. cant play
game on
To be honest, I didnāt notice it was watch before.
oh wow haha same
wish I had one
Wearing my battleboard
Bro im between going home or going crazzy
Go crazg bro
Bro my Phone i let at home if i go for Sure haha
Okay now ich Came back i can say its okay was a good day
bro in this mood how i am rn i need to drop a ilv video on x
before i go sleep
i have in the back a really good video which i try to do but will realeasse when i get the skills in the future
i think in future i will drop the biggest ilv videos and try even rn in the silence but its for sure not so easy but day by day i figure something more out
Go back to work. We need that cool site asap 
the people from the illuvium studio trust me just keep going i was rarely wrong in my life if i belived in something u guys killing it in web3 space if u just keep going , i will be upset about myself if im wrong in this , i saw what u did over the last hard years i think from now u just need to stubborn go
forward
and @spring basin who i also have a big opinion of said also this in his last post
incoming
submit your build and build name to be featured first
obviously my builds will be s tier
take all the other crypto projetcs there is no nothing which has the potential which illuvium has and trust me i can take all the bias out , if i would search for another project which has the potential it be searching the needle in a haystack , and i even searched that i didnt found something
there is nothing no joke
i like the team , i learned alot from watched these guys if u can read between the lines and be not a fucking stupid person then u can have more empathie everything its not so easy how you see it from the front
this has to be the best autobattler in the market, and is it's a minigame xD
I though you were looking Invicible woman Cake
We are working on a fix
I think so, it's a way of avoiding the bug
gg @bronze spire
ggs
glad you didnt hit the last few squizz and alphie
@valid stirrup was teaching me some stuff and i was in panic mode or i wouldve got dualeph i rolled to slow and it was sitting on my shop at my last roll
haha ive been there
Another way to explain the current weapon problem is that it forces you to be flexible inter-game but locks you into certain comps intra-game while it should be the opposite
At this point I think that the Illuvium team understands the problem but some people are complaining about lack of flexibility while others are complaining about being forced to be flexible which can create confusion
how about adding a discord channel to share end screens with the community?
i mean that screen where you see all the compositions from the other players
i feel this also has roots in people liking different playstyles.
Still some ascendant fans arround who like to build towards their fav team from the beginning.
Some like to have opportunities throughout the whole game to pivot into another build to counter opponents builds.
that for sure can be done in here.
but i can forward the desire to have a dedicated channel for that.
From what i know the amount of chanels on a discord server is limited and we are already somwhere arround that limit.
the desire to get some impressions what other builds are being played will likely also be fullfiled from certain 3rd party websites, like the one @languid sparrow is building.
So having only 3 weapon choices round 4 is detrimental to both playstyle
I'm more of a rigid player and I like playing the same builds over and over again so being forced to change team between each game isn't enjoyable for me
A more flexible player would like to change their weapon later in the game
You can do it in this channel I think
yea i can see those pov's.
even tho, i think the general systematic of autobattlers is just not made to force every time your favourite build.
it's kinda more of adapt early on what the game is giving you and then pray to rngeesus to get the rest for it in the endgame.
if you have like 3-4 builds you like, you are good to go... but 1 ... probably have a rough time. š
Yeah, I've had 4 games in a row without getting a bulwark weapon - doing my head in
In TFT you can spam the same comp over and over again and have fun!
You won't be world champion if you do that though
yea, depends what rank you wana get.
when i did that, i got stuck somewhere in high platinum.
if you have 3 comps to go tho you can climb high
except it's a reroll comp i guess... then you can climb higher with just 1 comp
I was about to hit diamond after a few days of spamming the same reroll comp, then Illuvium launched last year so I stopped š
ya, with reroll likely possible
Actually I had 2 different reroll comps at the end, it mitigated a lot of the bad RNG and the fact that people were contesting me
3 would be quite a lot I think for someone rigid though
The advantage of being rigid is that you don't have to think about what comp you're going to play which simplifies decision making
When you have 2 comps you just play what you hit and what's not contested
When you have 3+ comps then the decision making becomes way more difficult imo
you often have overlaps of units of different comps tho.
So you might start with rerolling one, but instead of forcing your one build, you pivot to a mix in lategame because rng favors it going that route.
I clearly couldn't do that, I'm not even sure that I knew what my units were doing š
When i play TFT I just go on a 3rd party website, pick a reroll comp that's not S-tier to avoid being too contested and then I just spam it
i feel in tft it's pretty easy.
if you have no clue, you just spam 5cost in lategame š
I don't even know lol characters
i sometimes checked s-tier rerolls and built counter comps š
That's smart
ya i feel you š
i know some new ones a little from arcane now š
it's like the same way you did.
you not get contested as much and you are strong against the reroll meta
Also you're less contested in general in TFT since there are way more different units
Around 13-14 per tier
5-cost units are more rare but even if you only take into account 1,2 and 3-cost units there are still more of them than T1 to T5 illuvials
o.O i knew they have more... but they have thaat much more?
That's what Mordark said I think
It's one of the game designers
Btw do we know if they will add lines of illuvials incrementally or if they will release a big new set all at once?
Or maybe both if the new set is just the old set with different classes and affinities
not really public info on that.
last i heared was that it could be that "a few" new lines get introduced and rest gets filled up with the same illuvials but different classes/affinities.
I guess it depends on if they wana hold onto the thing with once a set is over you can't farm them anymore.
If so you have to come up with at least the same amount of different Illuvials i feel otherwhise the collectors thought gets lost if there are for example just 20 illuvials in set 2
The ideal would be to have somewhere between 60 and 70 T1 to T5 illuvial lines
This way we would have around 12-14 illuvials per tier
Especially more T2 lines
Lynx is cool but I would prefer to have a normal tier with many illuvials in it
still need some people for the waiting list for the arena tournament starting in 1 hour
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yea i totally agree with that
but difficult to do.
if you wana focus on gauntlet with next set you bascially need to have no t1 lines but a ton of t2 lines š
would be kinda weird to have.
True š¤
and i guess also a lot of work.
or maybe you also change tier with those "illuvial revamps" and not just classes/affinities
kinda like make a t2-frost-rhamphyre or a t2-inferno-grilla
Not sure it would be a good idea
ya me neither š
So let's take all of the current T1 and make them the new Set 2 T2
Take all of the current T3 and make them the new Set 2 T3
Take all of the current T4 and make them the new Set 2 T4
Take all of the current T5 and make them the new Set 2 T5?
We would have 16 T3
And they want to introduce new lines
not sure a rotation system is the best thing to go forward.
You would have equalized the number of lines for each tier after 3-4 set tho (maybe even 2-3) depending on how many new illuvials can be made for each set
they have dozens of illuvials that they're not using in t0s and t2s that they can just slightly rework for arena, split them into different tiers and get rid of t0 tier and solve a lot of pool problems
also not sure you wana redo the lynxes...
but that's just a pure gauntlet pov.
Cant mess arround with the overall ecosystem just to have an easy way for gauntlet.
why? what's stopping u from having units be different in different games
would be super messy.
clear red lines are appreciated from normal human beings.
Grind for assets + valuation of those assets would be just a mess
good thing they're all worthless already then
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
why i plaiying
i can just agree with rich at thid part
we are real mexican we hold toghether
We are looking for 1 more player for the illuvium tournament happening right now
i can play
i pinged you in our tournament discord server
Yeah, gauntlet is fun now because its the only thing we have.
But the overworld is the main game.
And the new illuvial set is a sensitive topic. I understand how much work it implies, but we don't have second chances.
We have to do it right from the start.
The selling point of illuvium was "capture them while you can".
Doing the illuvials again, just in a different color is lazy.
Its not like we have no community.
We had a thread with illuvial suggestions.
Accept help from the community to come up with new illuvials.
i don't think it's a matter of "no idea what animals we could do" but rather a "it's a ton of work and needs a tremendous amount of time to create completely new assets"
but i agree, there are no 2nd chances and i don't know how well it is received from collectors if there will be mainly just other iterations of already existing illuvials.
But tbh this is all just assumptions based on a few words of core contributors which were posted long time ago.
Plans might have changed related to that topic.
Yes, i know, but we don't have much time. A decision should be made and the work in that direction should start. We can't make the decision next year, and have the assets done in 2028. A wave shouldnt last so many years
At least the way i think, it's a different mentality from "i have no pressure to start playing now, the assets are not going anywhere" and "maybe i should try playing now before all the illuvials are gone"
I don't think it is lazy to redo the Illuvials. I actually think it would be pretty cool. I can see wanting to collect the set of Pterodactyls. An ice one would be beautiful.
gg @spare frigate ..just can t cope with the bonding wen the ranger litterally refuse to bond..then I get pissed and don t care anymore bout the freakin match
LOLL gg
excuses are for the weak
but your right.. the sensitivity of bonding the ranger is crazy.. 1 slight move of the mouse and it resets the bonding time -.-
nono..
the krunk was not bonding..no matter what
the bonding window didn t pop up
the weak..u had 1 hp..big boy ..relax
ripp that sux
i only kid
would be nice though to have the plus button back so it reminds players to bond or at least have a right click button (for pc) to automatically bond when hovering over unit
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i have a suggestion for the public document, you can add the end traits for the final comp, i already made an example but i can“t upload pictures here
I have a big criticisim of the Arena functioning... If I get a weapon... NO ONE ELSE SHOULD GET THAT SAME WEAPON! sheeeeeesh!
Do you want to play a leviathan game to try the hotfix? @frozen tartan
need to be discord lvl 5 and have the ranger role to post pictures/gifs.
maybe i can get some help for that, but can take a while since it's weekend.
later i'm in... but selfmade pizza-cake is done in about 45 mins...
ok i can wait
Pizza-cake? š±
gmgm
The plus button was so much better imo
Recipe please.š
gmorning ser
i reckon we should have a higher selection of weapons
6-8?
Hi, Iām still studying the new patch. Sorry
They should just remove the patch. Totally unplayable, unpredictable, impossible to plan anything. Compositions disappear in seconds... this didn't happen before.
It's not unbalanced, it's unplayable, there's no direction. It went from fun to better to shut down. WAITING FOR A NEW PATCH
The game's translation never arrived. It's really so simple that I don't understand why it wasn't implemented. The rest of the non-English speaking world expects to be able to understand the game.
Don't get me wrong, I love this game, but it doesn't make it easy, it makes it increasingly difficult.
I think of returning to game after a long while.I was somewhat tracking the news and saw that there are some weekly rewards for gauntlet? If yes , what are the rules for that? where can i check if im viable for this weeks rewards?
I can't lift the chests for the 3rd game today. please fix it
I have a questions regarding the rules, so if I would e.g. be the only person in Master I automatically have the highest points and be first place?
If you get the "Nature" augmentation from the carousel, the game will give you an empty black square.
When you hover over it, an Axon with a broken description is shown.
You cannot use the augmentation.
this happens when you try to pick it up with a full bench, then it will be stuck for a few rounds even if u have space on bench after.
yup, its a mess
can do a post in #š®ćfood but not today anymore, am about to go to bed š
I may hold an unpopular opinion... But I like the randomness and the improvisation required in the new patch
Planning gets boring and rote... so to me it makes it more fun that every game is going to be different
You also don't get punished so hard for trying different things in this patch because there's enough stuff to make something work... or kinda work
people getting 100% dodge on ranger š¤£
isnt upgrading drone and upgrading illuvials and upgrading weapon and upgrading suit kind of a lot of the same?
I think most appreciate this aspect tbh
Good news. Youāve been bestowed the rank of Ranger. Enjoy posting images in here
builds in public document is example.
every your game different from each other. and you choice what will be better for you right in this game.
you can't just play 1 build and win, all depend of your opponents, augments you got, weapon, how much units left in pull, how good your economy, region etc.
this shield now psion, you have bulwark and empath for earth build, it's mean you can made 10+ different synergys.
Coming soon in my companion app
no, you need to be eligible. If you are the only player in Master Division you get the highest reward of the event tho.
Get ready Rangers.
The Gauntlet Division event is starting <t:1749340800:R>
Prove your skill over 4 days of intense ranked gauntlet play to dominate your division and earn a share of the 60 ILV Prize Pool.
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Starts: Sunday, June 8th at 00:00 UTC
š Ends: Wednesday, June 11th at 23:59 UTC
@ashen mango wtf is this man
Finally the ranger has his ROLE in the fight, love it.
yeah doing x5 damage of any other
love it
I mean you dont see me going out getting dominated by an elk when i have my .308
it only makes sense
This is fun š
It almost beat Rhamphyre with phantom
It had a big omnivamp % + it was reflecting damage
So basically it was gaining health when getting hit, not losing health š
I get that people find this randomness fun but every game is a clown fiesta man š. Thinking about trying to make this an e-sport?
Good luck
I had a crazy round where Grilla 1V5 or 1V6 a team, he killed half of them during overtime and it was healing himself back to full life after each cast
It healed 9k hp in the end and survived 1 tick away from dying
Really I couldn't believe it, he was 1 hit away from dying maybe 5 times but each time he went back to full life, I wish I recorded it
Wow the dodging ranger is crazy
idk man... there have been two huge patches in the past month... there's bound to be some craziness. nothing that fine tuning can't help. But I really dig the direction.
F the carousel tho... can't wait till a different rendition of that
So glad bonding ranger is back
we still just started, its in development... the balancing of the Arena is all they essentially have left to do now.... It will get balanced out...
i get what you mean guys but i strongly disagree that this is a balancing issue.
Slickz still won the tournament even in this patch. More chance it was his skill showing than just being lucky
Leaderboard also seems to be pretty much the same players at the top
anyone think shop is bugged sometimes?
i rolled 80+ gold for a ramphy to get Phantom. no one else has one 
the best will continue to be the best yes, even with more rng
for whatever its worth im glad you guys like it
its just not for me i guess
Do you have a link for the qr code, my phone does not want to scan it
@supple beacon #šØćcommunity-content message
there is the link to the doc there
The game has a bit too much randomness, but as a positive, you have to adapt, which implies skill, you cannot simply just copy a build
there is much more agency now than in the last year
you can t get rid of RnG but i see skilled players adapting quickly
yep, kinda like the new patch now, but its not good if u get only 3 weapons that are not that good
but often, you get 1 solid
agree..the 3 weap limitation at round 3 is a bit mehh
then at least its all about balancing
less augments..less variance
you can almost pinpoint the augs that you want now
bonding opens a ton of possible comps
like that! get fighter weapon, then go for mostly red augments and defensice yellow
go for psion weapon, go for purple
so its more agency now
almost there folks, just pulling all images soon once i get it where i want
maybe tomorrow go live
got a nephews graduation to go to
gg
@open ibex GG
GG, i thought it was over when u hit dualeph
lucky i hit ophisto too š
haha same, you came back solid š should have blocked the squizz
i was stuck at 8/8 in the queue, now i cant get in
what is this? first time this has happened
Its regularly happening at this time daily
They are working on fixing it
but what does it mean? the game thinks im in a game which im not? hope i dont loose like 50 trophies from that
Unfortunately it might happen but it happens to most in that game
looks like it just glitched out
So its not just you
yea stuck on 8/8, i queued at 8:02 to not get the stuck game
how long this usually take?
so theres 2 lobby stuck it means
ahh okay, managed to get into a game though..
maybe i loose 50 trophies, and win the other game gaining 15
xd
how long did it take?
your first lobby passed
mine is still 8/8, im not in your game right?
noopes
wonder if im in the other game as well xd
probably not, you must have queued back in your first stuck lobby
oh mine is starting now
Note that the issue hapenned rught after 00:00 UTC during the 1st round of game. a game normally last around 41min 25 sec "depending on the region maybe change"
@neat walrus @whole galleon game started
thanks but i cant start :/
now, thank u 
*I will be posting result for the 1st game when there complete *
Some day it took like 30-60 minutes, so I always go for breakfast š¤£
Between 0:00 and 1:00 UTC, it will take about 20 minutes for the game to start even if it is 8/8. In other words, if you wait 20 minutes, the game will start, so it's a good idea to check repeatedly.
Does the illvuium team is aware of this issue ?
Like I said they are investigating a fix
They are already aware of the cause
Just needs to be fixed
Yep, all good
its actually really good that these bugs are surfacing now, and not later after a big marketing push
Hi
Is anyone else getting error 400 when trying to find a ranked match?
if u enter ping me, if i enter i ping u š¤
Ugh too frustrating logging out for a bit. Good luck
@bronze spire did you experience lag that game ?
everything moved in slow motion š¤£
hmm actually not sure maybe, i was half afk to be honest
anyone got a class combo chart? looking at you @languid sparrow ....:)
fighter + figter =beserker etc
Can always view in game
how o bond?
Drag the Illuvials to your ranger at any time
Or bench a bonded illuvla to unbknd
thx
Its not very intuitive to know you have to do it. They could add something to help new players
the '+' above the ranger we had be4 was very intuitive. And we could still show the bonding affinities on mouseover the illuvial.
Yea we currently miss a way to see the bonding, the (+) was great
Yes the + was better than also holding the illuvium above the ranger. Sometimes holding escape and you cant bond in time
exactly, how does a new player even know bonding exists š
what i meant i like you said, we miss seeing the aegis/spore bond, but we we also literally dont know its something intuitively
I would love if the ranger would bond back with an illuvial we benched then put back on the board when we didn't bond with another illuvial in between
isn't there like a big fat text in the first rounds telling that you can bond your ranger with dragging the illuvial over it?
if there is it's prolly not fat enough cause I haven't noticed it.
Lol yeah its massive
ok now I have to go play a game to see that big fat text...
Might also be overwelming with too much information for new player
No wonder I never saw this...
usually my eyes are on the bottom of the screen looking at the bench and when the round starts the message disappears.
if you have to have a text message explaining some game mechanic it just shows how non intuitive it is.
@bronze spire with 4 players getting Jokull I have no clue how U got Jotun
I loved how we kept having a sear vs Jotun showdown in the centre of the board tho
haha yea i got well above average luck with him
DMTs rhamphyre 1 shot my board in the end, even through invuln augment haha
How is this possible? š @bronze spire
You must have had better lobbies compared to your elo on average
yea haha must have had some big elo gain in some games
and my non top 4 games were at starting rating
bar 1 maybe
gg @valid stirrup well played
yeah quality over numbers proven š

