#šŸŽ®ć€•illuvium-arena

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hot pond
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yea, the power ascent legendary is useless

high snow
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20 seconds seems like a stretch šŸ˜„

valid stirrup
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And when i said this people how didn’t playing that much on the main net just voted

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It is opinion of course but we want to make sure it will be enjoyable and fun the game , that i play dota

arctic steppe
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i'm afk in some1 lobbiy?

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my game just full bugged

hot pond
high snow
hot pond
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Yea to me as well

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and the funny thing is, they nerfed everything which should in theory reduce dmg but instead units die 10x faster šŸ˜„

summer frigate
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cant grab the item lol

summer frigate
worn tree
sinful hornet
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when my bench fills with an item doing the animation of coming to the bench (on previous patch) they end up in all kind of spots, if this is what happened there

viral marsh
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most synergy not work if fight end in 10-20 sec.
templar? - usseles, especialy after nerf, steal 3-10 resist, then die/fight end.
invoker? - doing 1 cast, then fight end.
if plan was made rogue/vanguard/rhamphy good again - that work

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same with augs which stack over time

muted iris
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7/8

hot pond
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literally the worst patch for me

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its just a 10 second rogue bingo

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Whole lobby is going for rogue stuff only. Got 4th place with behemoths and 3 WF and 3 templar.

summer frigate
viral marsh
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ranger which start with 80% energy, and 1 shot with omega seems balanced

tawny dove
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Balance in this patch is so off. How did this go through testing and to live, seems so rushed. Apart from the rewards hunters, many of us will probably just wait with playing until next patch if this aint fixed quickly.

hot pond
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And they wanted to have the tournament on this patch šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

summer frigate
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Maybe they could do a hotfix increasing the hp/resistance and go from there

hot pond
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Like come on if a jotun gets one shot by a random psion cast it’s absurd. Before invokers needed 2 or 3 cast stacks before they could do that

hot pond
sinful hornet
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but the patch notes wouldn't explain that happening at all, there's legit no tankiness changes in there

viral marsh
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in Testnet you have 3 weapons which was much better that other. i think they rework them, but no.
we got this OP weapons in live. and if you not got 1 of them at start, it will be much harder play

sinful hornet
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and psyon dmg or something else didn't increase either

viral marsh
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octius which 1 shot at 4 psion buff, with some omega power augs.

worn tree
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I think the fact that we made health bars longer and we nerfed the last standing bastion of the tank meta made the fights more snappier and the feel of health bar depletion is playing a trick on our mind.

That being said, fights are a bit too fast now, it's a common sentiment. We will proceed and increase tankiness across the board by a bit, maybe add 5 resistance and a bit of HP on all units. And potentially decreasing the attack a bit.

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Also nerfing octius, it indeed deals far too much damage

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I think it's the only psion being too strong

worn tree
viral marsh
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so x4 dmg of any other units thats fine?

hollow citrus
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That's not what he said ... facepalm

viral marsh
twilit storm
twilit storm
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so what is the trick on our mind

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eli5

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testnet was good

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and way too faster is not a bit too fast eh, just saying

hot pond
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why couldnt we just copy the testnet build i dont get it

twilit storm
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indeed

hot pond
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everyone was looking forward for testnet patch to drop on mainnet

twilit storm
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why last sec things (not tested)

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why let us test something that doesn t go to main net

native mauve
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Because they tried to improve on the feedback that they received...but then it lead to other issues

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Pretty sure there were heaps of complaints on testnet as well...just sayin

twilit storm
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no deno

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sentiment was pretty good on testnet

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you improve and test on testnet..you do not test a thing and deliver another

bronze spire
native mauve
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Yeah I gotcha but I can see what they tried to do...just answering the why

bronze spire
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also only day 1. 90% of patches complains on day 1 change during the week

hot pond
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What’s the sense of testnet if we got a 100% different experience now on Mainnet

twilit storm
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@bronze spire ok..must be something that tricks our mind

bronze spire
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testing features

twilit storm
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why changing on the fly from testnet to main net

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what is the meaning of "testnet" then

sinful hornet
hot pond
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It wasn’t even a tank meta anymore

bronze spire
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im guessing balance changes they wanted to make and patch dropping is good opportunity. Eg i thought all the composite nerfs were needed which was good. Dont get me wrong, a lot needs to change seems quite off so far

sinful hornet
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ye u played 1 bulawrk sometimes 3 in 1-2 comps per game, the rest played 1 or 0

hot pond
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Only with bulwark chips you actually had more bulwarks

bronze spire
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ive only done 1 game

sinful hornet
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air might've given fake tankiness, but fighters with 0 bulwarks were durable so "tank bastion" doesn't explain faster fights unless u either pushed changes that u forgot to put in the patch notes, or straight up changed numbers without even meaning tto

bronze spire
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but i got 1st with 5 bulwarks

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and beat rogues and water steam

hot pond
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Then you didn’t have a good octius opponent one shotting your shit

bronze spire
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havent seen that yet haha

hot pond
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Or a ranger doing 20k dmg

bronze spire
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saw nil say they need to nerf it tho

hot pond
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With the gun

bronze spire
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yea seen ranger 1 shot

hot pond
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The only really tanky units I had just now were the mammut with 3 harbinger and ranger with granite harbinger. Had 3 tank augments including a legendary on the mammut tho. Other bulwarks were like paper

native mauve
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At least no more air meta lol

hot pond
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air wouldnt even be an issue anymore with easier access to fatesealer

worn tree
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That was a direct hit on those units, which were dominating and made the fights slower

sinful hornet
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but these units only affected the very end of the curve, like in colossus with 50 second fights, (besides ador), fighters vs fighters with just 1 tank still took a while to resolve

severe steeple
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worst balance patch ever!

sinful hornet
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and it doesn't explain psyons who tickled for 10%-15% hp prepatch killing jotun in 1 cast (if this is true)

vivid stirrup
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Thank you everyone for the feedback. Please keep in mind that this wasn't a balance patch per se—it introduced major gameplay changes, and it was expected to throw off the balance quite a bit.

Rest assured, the team is already working on the next balance patch, and I believe we’ll have better balance than ever very soon.

Make sure to play plenty of Testnet and share your feedback while patches are still in the testing phase—this helps ensure more stable releases to Mainnet.

Since the team had to cut QA, we as a community can really make a difference by testing and providing feedback.

We’re also exploring more dedicated focus groups to improve communication between the community and the team from the council side, and discussions are already underway on how to make that happen.

severe steeple
sinful hornet
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ye but testnet didn't have any balance changes i think

ashen mango
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We are on Halcyon Sea and the bot is winstreaking šŸ˜‚

severe steeple
vivid stirrup
twilit storm
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so why you are suggesting to keep playing testnet

severe steeple
hot pond
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bonding resets when the illuvial evolves. really bad in endgame when you find something last second

fallen vortex
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Yeah @worn tree this one is the most annoying. I remember when it was 100x worse. But if we can add more QoL to moving and swapping Illuvials around, you'd really feel it.

worn tree
worn tree
fallen vortex
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if the game could have a short term memory it'd be good. Eg if I am bonded to Grilla and I take my Grilla off to reset Augments then re add it shortly after. It should auto bond back.

worn tree
hot pond
fallen vortex
worn tree
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There's a patch on its way

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We will:

  • Reduce attack damage of all units by 5.

  • Increase resistance of all units by 5.

  • Increase health of all units by 100.

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And also a nerf on Octius Omega Damage.

hot pond
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Has there been a change in those values now comparing the previous patch to this?

worn tree
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No, otherwise we would have shared

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Everything that changed was stated in the balancing patch notes

hot pond
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but why is it that octius omega feels so oppressive now with no change towards those values?

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either octius got way stronger or units got weaker in hp and res

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both werent in patch notes tho

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same applies to rhamphite. I see in patch notes that only the energy cost got reduced. No dmg increase. Previously it wasnt able to one shot tanks or a phosphorus so consistently

bronze spire
hot pond
bronze spire
hot pond
sinful hornet
hot pond
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i also notice this that lynx isnt even needed anymore in early game

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because all units do crazy dmg

sinful hornet
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ok found this on tourney, what is it on live?

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no relevant drone augments

hardy minnow
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Gauntlet Ranked currently disabled?

raven obsidian
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yay i won a game, finally! To_The_Moon

west plume
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Kidding

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Well done

hardy minnow
raven obsidian
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ty Lars

supple beacon
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Did you try to leave the menu and come back?

hardy minnow
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arena is disabled for me, if anyone have a fix let me know thanks, both casual and ranked, yes I did, I even press surrender, my last game was 20 hours ago

raven obsidian
languid sparrow
hardy minnow
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I'm playing from epic games client, not sure if thats gonna help

west plume
west plume
warm isle
violet summit
# worn tree Is this happening to you consistently?

I just played my first game in mainnet and saw this happen. However I didn't evolve the illuvial that was bonded. It simply reset the bonding, probably after the caroussel (not sure) and I played a couple rounds without bonding. Only after loosing one round I realized something was off.

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Regarding the fast fights, I 100% subscribe what others have mentioned and the game feels off rn
I played testnet and the experience was not the same. Something is different on this mainnet version

void dust
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Something changed that I didn't read in the patch notes.

worn tree
twilit storm
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The reason behind going first on testnet was to avoid main net "surprises". Now pls explain why the testnet build differs from the one you push on main, thx.

hot pond
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So I was checking last match and I kept the bonding this time through evolving. Need to see if it happens after carousel or with other instances. But I still believe it sometimes drops the bonding with evolving

uncut comet
hot pond
uncut comet
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jub

hot pond
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then it seems to be a bug if it applies to more people now

hardy minnow
hot pond
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are composite chips in carousel available only in a certain round or full rng?

hollow orbit
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If I spectate an enemy in the round immediately before the carousel, I will be placed outside the frame and will be unable to join the carousel. Also, once I am in this state, I will be unable to join any carousels thereafter.
@worn tree

supple beacon
hardy minnow
frozen tartan
hardy minnow
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Arena is now working after the patch, thanks

worldly token
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I was able to get 4 shock last game šŸ™‚ solid 8th place

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Game is just not long enough for the effect to do anything

hardy minnow
valid stirrup
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Showtime

turbid osprey
void dust
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How did the ti'ru line just become straight broken?

west plume
hardy minnow
west musk
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5/8

hot pond
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Patch feels much better now with the health change @worn tree

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Also positive: The shop seems to "work" way better now in finding illuvials that you should find %-wise. Also if people get eliminated they seem to return correctly. At least it felt like that in the 8 matches that I did now. Getting to S3 illuvials is way more accessible now šŸ‘

dull wind
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is it just me or the composite chip never matches my team? Atlas_Dead

dull wind
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feels bad tbh

hot pond
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you mean the chip from the box you get?

dull wind
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no the 3 composite choices that appear

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later in the game

hot pond
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yea that should be from a box in round 20+

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its not yet tailored to your team, dunno if thats gonna happen

dull wind
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I think tailoring is coming

hot pond
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I find composite chips in the carousel way more annoying

worn tree
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next month

worn tree
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There's still a lot of work to do balance wise, please keep the feedback coming

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Guys, if you move your bonded unit from the board to the bench, it loses the bonding. I think most of you know this but leaving this here just in case.

cursive echo
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casual easy

summer frigate
languid sparrow
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How many augments can we game in one game ?
I see some game with 13 augments

hot pond
zenith mortar
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or maybe the empty illuvial sillouette

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this one

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just put that little symbol in there when youre not bonded

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here i concepted it out haha

supple beacon
worn tree
zenith mortar
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@uncut comet i told you noob lobby

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besides @winged fox

ashen mango
west plume
zenith mortar
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Attention all Arena Players: Please if you can post your end game screen shots, so our game design team can easily/quickly visualise builds/meta/comps etc for balance purposes.

languid sparrow
languid sparrow
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Going to touch some grass, brb

zenith mortar
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This is just a different method

languid sparrow
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So it’s more for sentiment of the players

west plume
ashen mango
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@frozen tartan is going to rekt you āš”ļø

west plume
zenith mortar
ashen mango
zenith mortar
west plume
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dumb game

languid sparrow
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Is it normal that most all illuvial on your team get almost 3 augments ? Feel to much abondance

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66% the team 6/9, have have 3/3 augments, is that normal ? .. just asking opinions here

wicked hedge
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how can the team that won beat my team.. ? Vanguard is totally broken

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with the current patch.. its way too much RNG

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Hyper is useless. Malura one-shots my team

supple beacon
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At the same time kids nowdays need to have a constant wave of stimulation, maybe I am just too old

rapid zenith
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I don't like this fixed weapon thing. At least you always had a chance before - now I just can't be arsed when I'm stuck wuth something I don't want

wicked hedge
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I don’t like it as well, it introduces way too much RNG

rapid zenith
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I pretty much check out

valid stirrup
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To the Illuvium Team,

@worn tree @zenith mortar @umbral oracle , I just wanted to say—yesterday I felt a bit overwhelmed when I saw how different the game felt compared to the testnet. The testnet was smooth, and the transition caught me off guard. But today, you and the team really proved that you listened to us and understood what the issues were.

I want to sincerely thank you for the hard work you’re doing. Please keep going—we believe in you. That’s why we’re still here, playing, giving feedback (even when we’re frustrated), because we want the game to succeed, to be fun, and to be something we all understand and enjoy.

Thanks again for hearing us. You’re making something great.

violet summit
west musk
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I'll say I like this patch the best... encouraging dynamic comps feels better than a one way show

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5/8

violet summit
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can someone explain this

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hyper is doing nothing

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against nature? lost too

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is fire just bad? šŸ˜„

ashen mango
violet summit
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@worn tree please BUFF fire units, its ridiculous to be 5th in this lobby with 4 magma, 3 phantom and decent augments
lost both fights against AIR and Nature...

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Scoriox had 400 att dmg with stacking att speed and that augment that converts DMG into energy dmg

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not gonna touch fire ever again after this lol

granite echo
violet summit
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damn, whhat is this??

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game bugged

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what are the odds honestly

violet summit
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@thick estuary this should be forbiden bro šŸ˜„

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@worn tree true sight is immune to blind? from dust or krunk?

thick estuary
bronze spire
ivory rune
ivory rune
# violet summit game bugged

what place did you take in that lobby and what was your final team .... I am curious to see what you did when gifted with 3 nature tabs

tropic forge
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I just won a game , and it didnt count the MMR. I guess it started before 00:00 and ended after and server is bugged. Will the MMR count after a while?
We“ve been with this reset bug like a lot of days already, pls, fix it.

west musk
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4/8

languid sparrow
tropic forge
# languid sparrow

@languid sparrow do you know if this last game scored? i just played and ended 2nd but no MMR.

languid sparrow
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No MMR = ?

tropic forge
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it started before 00:00, i ended 2nd position, and i still have 1276 MMR, which i had before this game

west musk
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this is becoming the doomed time to play /:

languid sparrow
tropic forge
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I had 1276 MMR , and still the same.

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Kster is the nick im using right now.

south geyser
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Hmmm...lobby sitting at 8/8

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Thoughts?

west musk
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yep

tropic forge
languid sparrow
west musk
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same utc error

tropic forge
frozen tartan
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When in the first game the carousel was broken and my drone was off to the side, I thought it was a bug.
No big deal.
Then the second time — still no big deal.

Now a new match.
First time — carousel broken.
Second time — carousel broken.
Third time — carousel broken.

My drone was always on the left, and I wasn’t able to choose an augmentation.
This isn’t complaining — it’s stating a fact: we urgently need a hotfix for this bug.

tropic forge
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anyway it seems it was on my side, because the guy that won 1st place has his score updated.

south geyser
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Well, relaunched, and still error 400 matchmaking error is all that happens when I push the find ranked button

tropic forge
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dont really know if it“s a new bug , or just bad luck

thick estuary
tropic forge
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so the only workaround is to close the game from time to time and wait for the game to start.

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at least in my experience, like 3 times, has been like that.

turbid osprey
tropic forge
tropic forge
languid sparrow
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My leaderboard is matching illuvium LB so.... I don't know where you played those 7 more games ? Where they ranked games ?

tropic forge
west musk
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Starting

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400 error people

tropic forge
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if u enter the game right now i“m 33 on the leaderboard.

languid sparrow
tropic forge
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@languid sparrow the game scored already

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it seems it syncronices itself with the time the game after 00:00 starts

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something happens behind the scene with the server and updates some minutes after 00:00

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now i have 9 games , and my correct MMR.

void dust
tropic forge
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it seems you haven“t won a 1st place either Kwhajaja

languid sparrow
void dust
tropic forge
void dust
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Exactly how f'ed am I right now?

west musk
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yep same

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ima cancel

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error 400 again

void dust
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...

manic musk
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Last game happened the same.. I could join the match just after round 4 or 5

open ibex
manic musk
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Now I am stuck with you I guess

void dust
manic musk
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I on

open ibex
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Gg @thick estuary brutal 4 dust 4 enchantersšŸ‘€

hot pond
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The time is still too less after the pve round with the invokers

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And the bonding takes too much time. Especially when it stops with the slightest mouse movement. It was way easier with the plus icon and selecting the illuvial that you want to bond. Plus it was pretty much instant instead of those 3 seconds or whatever. @worn tree

warm isle
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And the carousel? The one spinning I got bugged can't move my drone to take the units

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And still got the ball from the pve battle stucked . Before it happened I press other people then i can never took it

hot pond
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Bonding also disappeared after carousel round for me

solid wadi
hot pond
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Right click normally

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The same how you move your drone also on the Battle board to collect orbs

warm epoch
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never realize casual games filled faster

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this new arena format is way better imo

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except I havent figured out how to select illuvials in the carousal round

raven obsidian
# warm epoch never realize casual games filled faster

Casual games are typically against AI bots unless someone else queues for casual games at the same time.

During the carousel round, right click the mouse to move your drone to which illuvial you want. The door opens for your drone based on what position you currently are. E.g. last place means you get 1st pick of the carousel whilst being 1st means you get last pick. Hope this helps

solid wadi
zenith mortar
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It’s typically in the release notes yes

zenith mortar
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But there is a known bug right now with carasouel they are working on

solid wadi
# zenith mortar But there is a known bug right now with carasouel they are working on

Ok thanks.. but it would be good to have in the guideline on how to react...first time it appeared to me, I was clicking everything...like trying to drag augments, drag illuvials around, clicking everywhere (other drones) opening stats and got frustrated as some illuvials disappeared and got into somebody else and then clicking and ending up with an illuvial I didn't want in the first place

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It is not intuitive for somebody to see it first time

violet summit
worldly token
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I hate rogues..

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was so excited for this patch and now this rogue-fest

worldly token
warm isle
viral marsh
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can someone explain me this dmg?

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and dmg recieve. he not die

valid stirrup
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Just check more , they are team what bit rogue

viral marsh
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T1S2 unit. 15k dmg and tank 10k?

valid stirrup
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Read what revenant class do it

open ibex
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fighting in the air

valid stirrup
valid stirrup
worldly token
viral marsh
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and when he replace item all fine

valid stirrup
# viral marsh

That 2 augument it is give a 45 critical dmg , come bro šŸ˜Ž i know you know

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Rough it is back !

viral marsh
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rifstriker augment broken, if stack 2. i'm sure problem in that

valid stirrup
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Hmm that another story

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🤣🤣

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Happy Friday! Rough it is back

viral marsh
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i win this game

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but wtf?

worldly token
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@worn tree had a bug in my game:
took a nature imprint in my very first crate (round 2) and then got a nature imprint as a drone augment - but I never got the second one.. I ended up with just one.

worn tree
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This creates a death spiral in which it can be dealing 500+ attack damage per attack

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Nerf inc

worldly token
worn tree
tight swift
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Hmm, aren't 3 Colossus and 3 Invoker+ good anymore?

high snow
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you are just lacking damage items

tight swift
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Yeah, if I had better items on Octopus, I could've won—I didn't have trouble with rogue teams, so your Air was a problem, unfortunately. I fought you twice at the end

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Let's say it was due to bad luck šŸ˜‚

worn tree
open ibex
violet summit
worn tree
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@tropic forge what's your nickname in game?

flint nebula
# tropic forge Kster

It seems you finished 2nd and got 13 points. Updated from 1276 to 1289.
I've found this in our logs:
Updating leaderboard for Kster with 1289

tropic forge
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it seems server takes like 45mins + after 00:00 “s reset to update MMR if u are playing on a game that starts before reset and ends after it.

viral marsh
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1 broken and other not?

worn tree
viral marsh
ashen mango
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Insane @worn tree well played

worn tree
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GG @ashen mango HAHAHAHAHA really cool game

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My boy did not go down so easily 🤣🤣

ashen mango
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This was a big boi

worn tree
worn tree
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1 cast, nuked 80% of my tank team

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there are some balancing adjustments needed

ashen mango
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The Aqua Blaster reminds me of Caitlyn from TFT
This thing is a sniper riffle

valid stirrup
hot pond
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It had the crit augment

ashen mango
valid stirrup
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That him lose it

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I mean if you have phantom
The dmg was big

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I have rhamphyte and i do critical 7.6k

ashen mango
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Because it gives more OP and crit chance as well

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Actually phantom gives OP but basically it's as if I had phantom

valid stirrup
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Totally understand it i just i said if you have phantom was one shot everything

worn tree
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It was a 100% crit cast

warm isle
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I got all 3 star using rogue just delete everything in seconds

languid sparrow
valid stirrup
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I mean i understand that i just said if was phantom was a different storry

vivid stirrup
valid stirrup
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It is the main Illuvial it is a charizard on Illuvium word

vivid stirrup
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and a nice counter to the hated corner positioning ^^

it's just such a black and white scenario, either it one shots and feels op, or it doesn't one shot and it feels bad

languid sparrow
ashen mango
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Yes

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It's not enough to draw conclusions I think

languid sparrow
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It's the daily report in fact

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The use is not for analysing the data, it's only to show the data daily.

ashen mango
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I love data, please keep screenshots coming! 😁 @languid sparrow

languid sparrow
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The Analytics section in the menu will be the Vault of data 😜 🧐 šŸ˜
This section will be next level (data are just place holders in the Core Vault Dashboard)

languid sparrow
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We all know the Illuvium Universe can be complex — this will be the go-to place for deep insights and clear understanding.

hot badge
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I notice that FPS are way lower during the game and i didnt change configurations at all.
Also many bugs in game. Even the bug report window "B" its buggy and cant report from game.
Talking about gauntlet.

fallen vortex
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SWYDR5

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Casual Lobby, lets do this!

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for the show

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nvm go ranked

worn tree
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There's a new hot fix patch incoming guys

west plume
hot pond
languid sparrow
worn tree
# hot pond Will we be able to drop illuvials on board without the click again? I think this...

It's a balance patch.

To your point, tho, we are working on a system that allows to place illuvials, equip items and bond with click-drag-release.

This one is tricky to implement and we are unsure when it will be ready, but we will do our best to bring it to you guys.

This will make all the preparation phase actions less cluncky and more dynamic, essentially giving players back some valuable seconds.

west plume
worn tree
mighty tulip
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GG @noble geode that last round was very close šŸ˜…

viral marsh
worn tree
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Yes

noble geode
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GG @mighty tulip my Jotun went to axon instead of your synalph Atlas_Grr lol

vivid stirrup
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https://x.com/Phantom_ilv/status/1930264091962077597

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vivid stirrup
stoic moon
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ok thanks!

worldly token
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lok at this... ti ru did as much damage as rhamphyre? this is first and second place. Would have thought I would do quite good with all the psion t5 xD

violet summit
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Tiru had 100% crit chance and crit amp boosted
combined with 3 revenant, is very powerful

vivid stirrup
worldly token
worldly token
violet summit
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I know, I beleive a patch is coming to nerf it

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this should fix it @worldly token

languid sparrow
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I did not see any update true my client and ingame it's still showing patch 1.10.0 vs 1.10.0a.
is this normal ?

void dust
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It's upsetting how bad the game is right now.

twilit storm
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pls be more precise, feedback is value but need some more words.

dark scaffold
void dust
# twilit storm pls be more precise, feedback is value but need some more words.

At this point I've spoken for years about the issues and have long realized my opinion means nada. I just need to cut the cord and get over the sunk cost at this point. But, in respect to your wish Quants, here are some thoughts:

I mean we all know the issues... it's overly complicated and just keeps getting more overly complicated. Balance has almost comically eluded everyone who's ever worked for this company. The new carousel is just... lolbad. The bugs that we've had for years are still here. Connection issues, lag, performance issues - all still here - but hey we have a new comeback mechanic that wasn't needed at all and completely ruins any immersion a player may have felt and also offers no chance of a comeback, but hey the already too long games are now longer! yay.

Picking up those augment crates - LOL.

The new weapon system completely blows. Why? Lack of agency. Complete lack of agency. Last game my three choices were psion, psion, and psion. Every other player? 7 rogues. so naturally I finish last because I HAD NO CHOICE WHAT TO PLAY. This isn't difficult, but very clearly someone making decisions does not know wtf they are doing. That's been obvious forever, but we can't talk about it for... reasons. There is an issue. It must be discussed or it never gets fixed. The constant pushback to those who speak out is actually detrimental to the overall success of the project, not beneficial.

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Games are too long, queues are too long, and fun is too short.

What's needed? Simplicity. The most important and perhaps most difficult part of making a game/series of games is keeping it simple. Especially on the surface. Complexity should be nicely tucked under the hood. lowering the amount of augments was a good thing. Introducing the carousel - bad. More does not equal better. In fact, in this instance more is less. Much less.

What else is needed? Balance. Balance. Balance. The shift to triple augments was just shooting yourself in the foot. Nobody asked for this, but now the game is even more unbalanced. And it's an unforced error that nobody asked for. Just wild to me. And it's simple and obvious. Tiru doing 2x the damage of the rest of both teams combined is just so dumb.

Patch notes clearly not lining up with the changes made. No point in patch notes guys if they're not complete. And then the gaslighting afterwards - more lolz.

If this team actually wants to make this game a success - and I even doubt that at this point - they need to allow players - all players - even those who finish last - to actually BUILD A TEAM. A strong one - a full one. The game right now is just blue balls city. You get halfway through making the team you want and it's lol game over. There is no pivoting at all. Which makes Hyper a garbage mechanic.

languid sparrow
dark scaffold
languid sparrow
twilit storm
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@void dust your points are worth a lot.
triple augs: not needed..make some combo way to powerful wen rng kiss you.
Game being way too complicated for anyone beside hardcore players.
I love bonding mechanic but "as u said" having the 3 weap limitation and again hoping for good rng to just survive the match is really a pain.
Carousel is a joke..but i am biased since the very beginning..I do really not like this circus kind of things.
Game needs an accurate and constant balance hard work.
We knew that with bonding, weap upgrades (I love them) and suits upgrades (love them too) the amount of tweaks needed to rebalance the game were massive but I rekon the team now is way more reactive and push hotfixes very quickly. I am still faithful, the game can become a pillar in this niche genre, but need focus, dedication and light speed balance and rebalance wen things go crazy (like the tiru recently šŸ˜‰ ) or stuff that make you a God among the mortals for no skill reason but by luck.

violet summit
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anyone else crashed?

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I was in caroussell, the game crashed and got no reconnect

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at least 3 players were out already

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not 8th place

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@languid sparrow can you have acess to that game?

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its still ongoing im sure

languid sparrow
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Can only see details once the game is ended.

violet summit
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ok, lets wait few more miinutes

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it should still be ongoing

languid sparrow
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Just ping me, going back to coding

trim wren
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New weapon augments are a disaster. The game was fun, but this doesnt make sense.

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1 patch ruined the whole game lol

violet summit
ivory rune
spring basin
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I’m usually the one who calls things out when I feel like we’re not heading in the right direction, but honestly everything the team has been working on lately feels like a real improvement for the game. They’ve been doing a great job, especially since the testnet patch went live.

I do think we still need more than just 3 weapons during the game. Maybe introduce a few more options later on, like around round 12 or 17, to give players more flexibility.

Also agree that we don’t really need the carousel. Right now it doesn’t deliver the same impact as in TFT. It’s missing the comeback mechanic and that dopamine RNG hit. But honestly that’s a pretty easy fix.

Overall though I’m starting to feel like the game is actually getting really good. The last big thing we need is tailoring and once that’s in we’ll be in a really good spot!

Great work so far @worn tree @wide aspen @topaz lake and who ever is working on the current patch šŸ”„

valid stirrup
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3/8 come on we can do it šŸ˜„

noble hinge
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Feedback from a casual player whose elo sucks.
I find this latest rendition of Gauntlet to be the most complicated and hardest to play. Maybe that is intentioned, maybe you want to target the more hardcore player and keep it interesting for them. My thoughts definitely come from my lack of skill at the game.
I don't have every team and every augment memorized. This rendition of the game penalizes me more for that than past ones did.
I preferred having a larger range of weapons and getting to choose. By being able to pick from only 3 weapons early on I am forced into directions that I may not know how to play because again, I don't have everything memorized. Then I start getting Illuvials that don't even match and I find it hard to build anything cohesive.
The carousel is supposed to benefit the player who is sitting at the bottom of the rank. That doesn't work with the complicated augments. Leave them as the red, yellow, purple ones only - that's easy to understand. I don't have all the pictures memorized so you may let me go first but you aren't really helping me. Plus they are too close together and I end up grabbing the wrong one. It feels like a carnival claw machine. Maybe I just need practise.
Ranger bonding I love but it takes too long to bond. I already struggle with a lack of time to get everything done. In Round 1 there could be an arrow telling us to bond to an Illuvial for new players.
When the drone augments come up it would be nice if we could access our panel on the left to see which Illuvials we have on our team that could match. Example if I get a "Harbinger" drone augment it would be good if I could scroll and see that the Atlas I have on my bench will become a Harbinger. Or even have the pictures of the Illuvials that are Harbinger show up when we hover on the drone augment card.

sinful hornet
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I have to ask why aren't weapons locked in a way where you always have 3 different classes to pick from if not even 3 different classes + 3 different natures

west musk
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2/8 Atlas_Dead

languid sparrow
violet summit
worn tree
# spring basin I’m usually the one who calls things out when I feel like we’re not heading in t...

Thank you, SL1Ckz, for your words, help and commitment. We still have quite a few things on our to-do list that need refining and improving:

  • Carousel: Should we improve it? Or create a simpler comeback mechanic? Or remove it altogether?

  • Tailoring, incoming.

  • A simpler grid system, WIP.

  • Improved weapon choices. How to do it?

  • Overall simplicity.

  • Guidance tooltips, incoming.

  • Quality of life improvements.

  • Lesser PC spec requirements, WIP.

Some of these are already in progress, while others still need further thought. I do believe we’re making steady progress, but it’s important that we continue to make the right choices. To achieve this, I think it’s essential that we strengthen our connection with the community. We’re actively working on that, and the first step will be a survey, but I think this survey should mark the beginning of a stronger link with team and community that let's us anticipate the success of our decisions. We finally have a product that is fully fleshed, the issue now is that it is too fleshed, and we need to sculpt it, to make it simpler and more polished into a simple, fun, and fair game that appeals to both casual and competitive players alike.

With IMC and ICC already making significant and strategic moves, I believe we are well positioned to take the next steps effectively. The dedication and positivity of so many in the community are truly invaluable to the success of the IP. We must not only maintain this momentum but also step up our efforts.

Thank you all for your dedication, polite feedback and support. Have a great weekend!

worn tree
sinful hornet
# worn tree Thank you, SL1Ckz, for your words, help and commitment. We still have quite a fe...

carousel in tft starts being a comeback mechanic mid-late game+, when u can get 4/5 costs which are way harder to find in tft than here. What carousel is actually supposed to be is not a comeback mechanic but a fix bricks mechanic, as in - u have 2 components that are bad together, you fix that with carousel and make something you want. But this is also less impactful here cuz there's only 3 components.

void dust
low comet
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@sinful hornet who has better comp for you? I think i just mis positioned or wrong augment on illuvials

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4 aegis on me 4 frost on him

ashen mango
# worn tree Thank you, SL1Ckz, for your words, help and commitment. We still have quite a fe...

I think that having 25 weapons but being able to reroll them like we do with augments would be way better.

Having the choice to change weapons somewhere between round 12 and 22 would be good as well.

We could then simply replace weapon amplifiers with other weapon amplifiers for the new weapons, as long as they're from the same category (like damage buff, opponent debuff, ally buff, etc).

As a side note, I often get the impression that the game is trying to prevent rigid players from having fun. Patch after patch, the prospect of spamming the same team over and over again becomes more and more disincentivized... to the point where we now can't just play how we want due to being locked into certain comps with the weapons we get.

But even if being rigid shouldn't be optimal for peak performance, it should still be possible to have fun that way. By design, this game already invites flexibility since people can contest you, and Hyper adds tons of counterplay. So there's no need to force flexibility on players even more.

viral marsh
sinful hornet
viral marsh
sinful hornet
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it's probably fox lol

low comet
ashen mango
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Oh I just read the previous messages nevermind

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Nice troll šŸ˜‚

winter breach
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How do you choose a illuvial In the drafting stage lol? That's some terrible design without any explanation

low comet
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fox changes his name like twice a week

winter breach
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And what's the drafting anyway about? You'll get more illuvial of that type there on or what

sinful hornet
viral marsh
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you say that will not play this season and now almost top-1....

sinful hornet
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always lying strat

uncut comet
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crash before waepon choice = altf4

winter breach
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Nobody here knows to tell me how the draft illuvial interface works?

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I've somehow made it move but I've no idea I keep pressing everything

south geyser
winter breach
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kk i found out, ty a lot

sinful hornet
mighty tulip
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@valid stirrup that shield is so broken. I put 20k damage into your ranger and it did nothing 🤣. GG

twilit storm
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@sinful hornet so he s really fox?

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omg

languid sparrow
south geyser
twilit storm
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Gauntlet Division event is coming.
Prove your skill over 4 days of ranked gauntlet play to dominate your division and earn a share of the 60 ILV Prize Pool.
šŸ“… Starts: Sunday, June 8th at 00:00 UTC
šŸ Ends: Wednesday, June 11th at 23:59 UTC

violet summit
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I assume everyone got the same error and couldn't join the match anymore

south geyser
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Just me or does it feel like the early game rng can really easily pigeon hole you into a doomed game?

languid sparrow
violet summit
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That's the problem, I don't šŸ˜ž

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But at least I didn't lose any ranking... I'm more relieved šŸ˜…

languid sparrow
twilit storm
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@violet summit sometimes (rare cases) the match pop up way later than expected

violet summit
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@worn tree can you find any info on that game? We were at least round 15+ and apparently everyone got an error and it's like it never happened

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Around 3PM UTC

violet summit
twilit storm
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weird

vivid stirrup
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I agree with the overall sentiment that being locked into 1 out of 3 weapons super early into the game feels bad.

Either give more options or let me reroll in someway later.

About the Carousel. I like it a lot. The style of it and the mechanic, it has more skill expression than the one in TFT. I think if we give people time they will come to like it, instead of being overwhelmed by it.
The problem I have with it is the clunkyness. The Units are too big, the Augment pictures scale weirdly in size depending on the position in the circle, overall I feel like we are just zoomed in way too much and that's why it feels so hectic and "in your face".
We all have big screens, zoom out and make the illuvials the same size as on the board for visual consistency and clarity.
That will also enable us to increase the distance between them and make it beginner friendlier.

Overall love the direction the game is going and such an amazing patch, thank you for the hard work and dedication @ Illuvium Labs

void dust
tropic forge
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Im a ghost on someone“s game? i can“t look for a game, Finding Match but no number. Restarted the game, my pc, everything... what“s this?

uncut comet
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again game crash before waepon choice ahhhhhh lovely so lovely

ashen mango
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To be honest I kind of changed my mind on the carousel
I like the agency it gives, not sure it's positive value for Illuvium but I wouldn't mind if we keep it

uncut comet
uncut comet
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and the drone ( avatars ) need to look more different it is now always need to search where i am haha

safe valve
rancid raptor
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im sorry to say this but i dont enjoy this new arena patch as much. perhaps it will get better with time but as for now i feel there WAY too much going on, just want to play and chill man..

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even the carousel is a struggle

uncut comet
safe valve
ashen mango
rancid raptor
ashen mango
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I need to take naps after 8 games or so šŸ˜„

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But I have low endurance, maybe it's different for other players

uncut comet
ivory rune
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i wish I knew more

ashen mango
safe valve
west musk
turbid osprey
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I love to see all this feedback today, thanks for sharing @void dust @spring basin @vivid stone @vivid stirrup @ashen mango @sinful hornet and the others!

Heres my pov on the main topic discussed

Carousel I personally, currently dont enjoy it because it makes the game longer, its hard to reach your units without getting other units by acciddent, the difference between illuvials/components/items is too small for it to be considered a comeback mechanic (even r22/27 sometimes) and i feel it breaks the flow

Theres is potential though, maybe

*Weapons: I actually enjoy the fact that we cant force a single type of comp and are somewhat limited by our initial choice. I feel we are still quite flexible from there because even without a rogue weapon for example you can still build a phantom, aegis, vanguard top tier rogue team for example

Some weapons and amplifier are quite unbalanced which doesnt help but thats to be expected in the first iteration

I like hollow suggestion of having 3 different class &/or affinity. Perhaps just not being able to get all 3 of the same would also be enough. I also really like slickz suggestion of having another weapon round r17. I think that would open not some interesting pivots to adjust to the opponents and what we got so far item/illuvial wise while just overall simply giving more agency and choice to everyone

Im really excited that gauntlet is now feature complete! Lets all work together to make this polishing and balancing phase as good as possible Atlas_Love

west musk
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Allowing for a weapon reroll of each would be a good fix… 6 options at the start

south geyser
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It really doesn't feel great when you are halfway into a build only to see that first place is doing the same build but already has all the units you want...another run doomer

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There just isn't enough time between rounds to check every single other comp to see who is stealing your stuff, and there aren't enough units to go around for everyone to run totally different stuff

rancid raptor
severe steeple
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the carousel is hellšŸ”„

rancid raptor
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a bit less rng. you know better what build you can go for. 1 less choosing screen (i mean cmon theres so many of them)

frank nimbus
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Can carousel animation just be like ADR animation? Just teleport over there and zap that damn thing lol. Already have a hard time thinking about what we need or what we get to deny others getting.

west musk
rancid raptor
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lets see what people think

frank nimbus
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Also, im red/green colorblind. Can you make the red a little darker lol. Impossible for me see the difference between those two augment. But obviously that's a very small portion of the players. Not a major problem. Just saying.

rancid raptor
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like before even starting the game

south geyser
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Might also be worth having the mouse over tooltips for the augments work correctly. They glitch out a lot, which makes it hard to know what's available.

west musk
rancid raptor
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think of it like picking your character so not everyone is the same when the 8 go in

south geyser
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Maybe make the intro logo skippable too so we can reconnect faster

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Also, does anyone know how the sudden death damage works? Because it frequently kills me when I have more health than my opponent. This feels a bit counter intuitive to say the least

dull wind
frozen tartan
# frozen tartan When in the first game the carousel was broken and my drone was off to the side,...

@worn tree Hi, my friend.
At first, I thought it was just a coincidence, but it's happening way too often.

I played a game yesterday. The carousel worked 0 times correctly.
Then I played another one. Again, 0 times the carousel worked properly.

Today I played 1 game. The carousel worked correctly 0 times.

What exactly is triggering this bug? I can’t play normally.

Usually there are two scenarios:

Option 1: My drone is stuck on the left side of the map. I can’t move it.
Option 2 (a new one): Now my ranger is standing in the upper-left part of the map. I can’t move them either.

ashen mango
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So you need to know where your real drone is and when it's your time to pick up an illuvial try to pick it when it's right in front of your starting position

frozen tartan
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@ashen mango My friend, I wrote a huge message filled with emotion.
But emotions are inappropriate here. I’ll keep all that frustration inside.

I’ll just say that I want a major rework of this ā€œwonderfulā€ mechanic.
I have no more polite words left.

uncut comet
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@worn tree for the waepon part are 3 possible solutions for me , 1. make the waepon choice at the start from 3 to 5 , 2. reroll possibility for waepons , another waepons choices in later rounds ( either u get a 2nd waepon or the first one will get replaced )

worn tree
worn tree
frozen tartan
frozen tartan
ebon flume
frozen tartan
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@ashen mango If I don’t go ā€œvisitā€ my opponents — will the bug not appear?

fluid raptor
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btw game is bugged atm or is it safe? 00:00 utc thing

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anyone stuck or ingame?

ebon aspen
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not again with 8/8 totally forgot FML

frozen tartan
frozen tartan
granite echo
frozen tartan
scarlet spindle
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I got to 8/8 and now match error

frozen tartan
frozen tartan
fluid raptor
frozen tartan
fluid raptor
frozen tartan
fluid raptor
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you should not quit queue and wait about 30-90 mins XD

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otherwise keep spamming for that time šŸ™‚

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yeah everyday 00:00 - 01:30. sometimes 30-40 mins, sometime 1.5 hours

frozen tartan
fluid raptor
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you should wait until the game starts.

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or ask someone in queue to tell you when it starts šŸ˜„

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you will be in game

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next time just dont cancel

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and watch a movie while waiting XD

frozen tartan
fluid raptor
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yes XD

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sometimes about 90 minutes

frozen tartan
# fluid raptor yes XD

@worn tree My friend, sorry for tagging you so often, but you need to be aware of the situation.

Either I click the "find ranked game" button for 40–90 minutes, or I lose rating.

This is unreal cringe.

fluid raptor
fluid raptor
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yes daily reset

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03:00 for me and russian time I suppose

ebon aspen
fluid raptor
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daily reset

frozen tartan
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start!!!

ebon aspen
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UP gogogo

frozen tartan
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game

fluid raptor
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if you ever did it, just dont cancel and wait while watching something šŸ˜„

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oh it is up he says

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please tell me if it is up

fluid raptor
frozen tartan
fluid raptor
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it was about 90 mins last time x_X

fluid raptor
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damn it :///

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seems like every game is individually having this bug...

worldly remnant
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matchmaking error. cant play

fluid raptor
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game on

frozen tartan
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To be honest, I didn’t notice it was watch before.

bronze spire
ivory rune
zenith mortar
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You guys serious lol

supple epoch
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Where did you get that from

uncut comet
zenith mortar
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Wearing my battleboard

uncut comet
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Bro im between going home or going crazzy

zenith mortar
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Go crazg bro

uncut comet
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Bro my Phone i let at home if i go for Sure haha

uncut comet
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Okay now ich Came back i can say its okay was a good day

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bro in this mood how i am rn i need to drop a ilv video on x

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before i go sleep

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i have in the back a really good video which i try to do but will realeasse when i get the skills in the future

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i think in future i will drop the biggest ilv videos and try even rn in the silence but its for sure not so easy but day by day i figure something more out

granite echo
uncut comet
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the people from the illuvium studio trust me just keep going i was rarely wrong in my life if i belived in something u guys killing it in web3 space if u just keep going , i will be upset about myself if im wrong in this , i saw what u did over the last hard years i think from now u just need to stubborn go
forward

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and @spring basin who i also have a big opinion of said also this in his last post

zenith mortar
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incoming

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submit your build and build name to be featured first

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obviously my builds will be s tier

uncut comet
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take all the other crypto projetcs there is no nothing which has the potential which illuvium has and trust me i can take all the bias out , if i would search for another project which has the potential it be searching the needle in a haystack , and i even searched that i didnt found something

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there is nothing no joke

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i like the team , i learned alot from watched these guys if u can read between the lines and be not a fucking stupid person then u can have more empathie everything its not so easy how you see it from the front

rustic cloud
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this has to be the best autobattler in the market, and is it's a minigame xD

zenith mortar
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šŸ‘€

rustic cloud
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wtf? it is you rich?

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I won

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a nvm is the same picture xD

zenith mortar
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lol

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no i just saw Ye was playing

rustic cloud
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I though you were looking Invicible woman Cake

gaunt hull
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first to see a weapon choices of 3 psions

zenith mortar
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gg @bronze spire

bronze spire
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glad you didnt hit the last few squizz and alphie

zenith mortar
bronze spire
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haha ive been there

valid stirrup
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it was need a bit more second and

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šŸ˜„

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it was there šŸ˜„

ashen mango
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Another way to explain the current weapon problem is that it forces you to be flexible inter-game but locks you into certain comps intra-game while it should be the opposite

At this point I think that the Illuvium team understands the problem but some people are complaining about lack of flexibility while others are complaining about being forced to be flexible which can create confusion

stoic moon
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how about adding a discord channel to share end screens with the community?

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i mean that screen where you see all the compositions from the other players

safe valve
safe valve
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the desire to get some impressions what other builds are being played will likely also be fullfiled from certain 3rd party websites, like the one @languid sparrow is building.

ashen mango
ashen mango
safe valve
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if you have like 3-4 builds you like, you are good to go... but 1 ... probably have a rough time. šŸ˜„

rapid zenith
ashen mango
safe valve
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yea, depends what rank you wana get.
when i did that, i got stuck somewhere in high platinum.
if you have 3 comps to go tho you can climb high

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except it's a reroll comp i guess... then you can climb higher with just 1 comp

ashen mango
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I was about to hit diamond after a few days of spamming the same reroll comp, then Illuvium launched last year so I stopped šŸ˜„

safe valve
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ya, with reroll likely possible

ashen mango
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Actually I had 2 different reroll comps at the end, it mitigated a lot of the bad RNG and the fact that people were contesting me

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3 would be quite a lot I think for someone rigid though

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The advantage of being rigid is that you don't have to think about what comp you're going to play which simplifies decision making
When you have 2 comps you just play what you hit and what's not contested
When you have 3+ comps then the decision making becomes way more difficult imo

safe valve
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you often have overlaps of units of different comps tho.
So you might start with rerolling one, but instead of forcing your one build, you pivot to a mix in lategame because rng favors it going that route.

ashen mango
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When i play TFT I just go on a 3rd party website, pick a reroll comp that's not S-tier to avoid being too contested and then I just spam it

safe valve
ashen mango
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I don't even know lol characters

safe valve
safe valve
safe valve
ashen mango
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Also you're less contested in general in TFT since there are way more different units

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Around 13-14 per tier

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5-cost units are more rare but even if you only take into account 1,2 and 3-cost units there are still more of them than T1 to T5 illuvials

safe valve
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o.O i knew they have more... but they have thaat much more?

ashen mango
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It's one of the game designers

ashen mango
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Btw do we know if they will add lines of illuvials incrementally or if they will release a big new set all at once?

Or maybe both if the new set is just the old set with different classes and affinities

safe valve
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not really public info on that.
last i heared was that it could be that "a few" new lines get introduced and rest gets filled up with the same illuvials but different classes/affinities.

I guess it depends on if they wana hold onto the thing with once a set is over you can't farm them anymore.
If so you have to come up with at least the same amount of different Illuvials i feel otherwhise the collectors thought gets lost if there are for example just 20 illuvials in set 2

ashen mango
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The ideal would be to have somewhere between 60 and 70 T1 to T5 illuvial lines

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This way we would have around 12-14 illuvials per tier

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Especially more T2 lines

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Lynx is cool but I would prefer to have a normal tier with many illuvials in it

vivid stirrup
safe valve
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but difficult to do.
if you wana focus on gauntlet with next set you bascially need to have no t1 lines but a ton of t2 lines šŸ˜„
would be kinda weird to have.

ashen mango
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True šŸ¤”

safe valve
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and i guess also a lot of work.
or maybe you also change tier with those "illuvial revamps" and not just classes/affinities

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kinda like make a t2-frost-rhamphyre or a t2-inferno-grilla

ashen mango
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Not sure it would be a good idea

safe valve
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ya me neither šŸ˜„

ashen mango
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I mean making Rhamphyre T2

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But making Grilla T2 could be fun

safe valve
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šŸ˜„

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downgrade =not cool
upgrade = awesome

ashen mango
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So let's take all of the current T1 and make them the new Set 2 T2
Take all of the current T3 and make them the new Set 2 T3
Take all of the current T4 and make them the new Set 2 T4
Take all of the current T5 and make them the new Set 2 T5?

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We would have 16 T3

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And they want to introduce new lines

safe valve
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not sure a rotation system is the best thing to go forward.
You would have equalized the number of lines for each tier after 3-4 set tho (maybe even 2-3) depending on how many new illuvials can be made for each set

sinful hornet
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they have dozens of illuvials that they're not using in t0s and t2s that they can just slightly rework for arena, split them into different tiers and get rid of t0 tier and solve a lot of pool problems

safe valve
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also not sure you wana redo the lynxes...

safe valve
sinful hornet
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why? what's stopping u from having units be different in different games

safe valve
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would be super messy.
clear red lines are appreciated from normal human beings.
Grind for assets + valuation of those assets would be just a mess

sinful hornet
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good thing they're all worthless already then

safe valve
uncut comet
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hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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why i plaiying

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i can just agree with rich at thid part

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we are real mexican we hold toghether

vivid stirrup
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We are looking for 1 more player for the illuvium tournament happening right now

vivid stirrup
rapid zenith
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What unbonds the ranger? Is it when you stage up?

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Kinda annoying

granite echo
# safe valve but that's just a pure gauntlet pov. Cant mess arround with the overall ecosyste...

Yeah, gauntlet is fun now because its the only thing we have.
But the overworld is the main game.
And the new illuvial set is a sensitive topic. I understand how much work it implies, but we don't have second chances.
We have to do it right from the start.
The selling point of illuvium was "capture them while you can".
Doing the illuvials again, just in a different color is lazy.
Its not like we have no community.
We had a thread with illuvial suggestions.
Accept help from the community to come up with new illuvials.

tight swift
safe valve
# granite echo Yeah, gauntlet is fun now because its the only thing we have. But the overworld ...

i don't think it's a matter of "no idea what animals we could do" but rather a "it's a ton of work and needs a tremendous amount of time to create completely new assets"
but i agree, there are no 2nd chances and i don't know how well it is received from collectors if there will be mainly just other iterations of already existing illuvials.

But tbh this is all just assumptions based on a few words of core contributors which were posted long time ago.
Plans might have changed related to that topic.

granite echo
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At least the way i think, it's a different mentality from "i have no pressure to start playing now, the assets are not going anywhere" and "maybe i should try playing now before all the illuvials are gone"

noble hinge
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I don't think it is lazy to redo the Illuvials. I actually think it would be pretty cool. I can see wanting to collect the set of Pterodactyls. An ice one would be beautiful.

twilit storm
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gg @spare frigate ..just can t cope with the bonding wen the ranger litterally refuse to bond..then I get pissed and don t care anymore bout the freakin match

spare frigate
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excuses are for the weak

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but your right.. the sensitivity of bonding the ranger is crazy.. 1 slight move of the mouse and it resets the bonding time -.-

twilit storm
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nono..

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the krunk was not bonding..no matter what

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the bonding window didn t pop up

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the weak..u had 1 hp..big boy ..relax

spare frigate
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ripp that sux

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i only kid

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would be nice though to have the plus button back so it reminds players to bond or at least have a right click button (for pc) to automatically bond when hovering over unit

vivid stirrup
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stoic moon
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i have a suggestion for the public document, you can add the end traits for the final comp, i already made an example but i can“t upload pictures here

ivory rune
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I have a big criticisim of the Arena functioning... If I get a weapon... NO ONE ELSE SHOULD GET THAT SAME WEAPON! sheeeeeesh!

ashen mango
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Do you want to play a leviathan game to try the hotfix? @frozen tartan

safe valve
safe valve
ashen mango
zenith mortar
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gmgm

rancid raptor
spare frigate
spare frigate
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6-8?

frozen tartan
austere lodge
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They should just remove the patch. Totally unplayable, unpredictable, impossible to plan anything. Compositions disappear in seconds... this didn't happen before.

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It's not unbalanced, it's unplayable, there's no direction. It went from fun to better to shut down. WAITING FOR A NEW PATCH

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The game's translation never arrived. It's really so simple that I don't understand why it wasn't implemented. The rest of the non-English speaking world expects to be able to understand the game.

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Don't get me wrong, I love this game, but it doesn't make it easy, it makes it increasingly difficult.

distant lintel
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I think of returning to game after a long while.I was somewhat tracking the news and saw that there are some weekly rewards for gauntlet? If yes , what are the rules for that? where can i check if im viable for this weeks rewards?

valid stirrup
zenith mortar
winged fox
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I can't lift the chests for the 3rd game today. please fix it

high snow
# valid stirrup

I have a questions regarding the rules, so if I would e.g. be the only person in Master I automatically have the highest points and be first place?

frozen tartan
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If you get the "Nature" augmentation from the carousel, the game will give you an empty black square.

When you hover over it, an Axon with a broken description is shown.

You cannot use the augmentation.

vivid stirrup
safe valve
west musk
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I may hold an unpopular opinion... But I like the randomness and the improvisation required in the new patch

Planning gets boring and rote... so to me it makes it more fun that every game is going to be different

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You also don't get punished so hard for trying different things in this patch because there's enough stuff to make something work... or kinda work

ebon aspen
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people getting 100% dodge on ranger 🤣

rancid raptor
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isnt upgrading drone and upgrading illuvials and upgrading weapon and upgrading suit kind of a lot of the same?

turbid osprey
worldly jolt
stoic moon
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thanks

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my suggestion for the public document would add the final traits

manic musk
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Playyy go

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3/8

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4/8

viral marsh
# stoic moon my suggestion for the public document would add the final traits

builds in public document is example.
every your game different from each other. and you choice what will be better for you right in this game.
you can't just play 1 build and win, all depend of your opponents, augments you got, weapon, how much units left in pull, how good your economy, region etc.
this shield now psion, you have bulwark and empath for earth build, it's mean you can made 10+ different synergys.

zenith mortar
twilit storm
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Prove your skill over 4 days of intense ranked gauntlet play to dominate your division and earn a share of the 60 ILV Prize Pool.

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rancid raptor
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@ashen mango wtf is this man

twilit storm
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Finally the ranger has his ROLE in the fight, love it.

rancid raptor
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love it

twilit storm
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if you are that ranger yes you will love it

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the bar is white, think bout it

zenith mortar
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I mean you dont see me going out getting dominated by an elk when i have my .308

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it only makes sense

ashen mango
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It almost beat Rhamphyre with phantom

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It had a big omnivamp % + it was reflecting damage

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So basically it was gaining health when getting hit, not losing health šŸ˜‚

rancid raptor
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I get that people find this randomness fun but every game is a clown fiesta man šŸ˜‚. Thinking about trying to make this an e-sport?

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Good luck

ashen mango
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I had a crazy round where Grilla 1V5 or 1V6 a team, he killed half of them during overtime and it was healing himself back to full life after each cast
It healed 9k hp in the end and survived 1 tick away from dying

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Really I couldn't believe it, he was 1 hit away from dying maybe 5 times but each time he went back to full life, I wish I recorded it

west musk
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Wow the dodging ranger is crazy

west musk
ivory rune
rancid raptor
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i get what you mean guys but i strongly disagree that this is a balancing issue.

turbid osprey
raven obsidian
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anyone think shop is bugged sometimes?

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i rolled 80+ gold for a ramphy to get Phantom. no one else has one Atlas_Dead

rancid raptor
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for whatever its worth im glad you guys like it

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its just not for me i guess

supple beacon
twilit storm
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there is the link to the doc there

wicked hedge
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The game has a bit too much randomness, but as a positive, you have to adapt, which implies skill, you cannot simply just copy a build

twilit storm
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there is much more agency now than in the last year

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you can t get rid of RnG but i see skilled players adapting quickly

wicked hedge
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but often, you get 1 solid

twilit storm
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agree..the 3 weap limitation at round 3 is a bit mehh

wicked hedge
twilit storm
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less augments..less variance

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you can almost pinpoint the augs that you want now

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bonding opens a ton of possible comps

wicked hedge
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go for psion weapon, go for purple

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so its more agency now

zenith mortar
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almost there folks, just pulling all images soon once i get it where i want

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maybe tomorrow go live

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got a nephews graduation to go to

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gg

arctic steppe
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sadness

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one more before queue bug lets go guys

wicked hedge
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@open ibex GG

open ibex
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lucky i hit ophisto too šŸ™‚

wicked hedge
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haha same, you came back solid šŸ˜‰ should have blocked the squizz

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i was stuck at 8/8 in the queue, now i cant get in

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what is this? first time this has happened

zenith mortar
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They are working on fixing it

wicked hedge
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but what does it mean? the game thinks im in a game which im not? hope i dont loose like 50 trophies from that

zenith mortar
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Unfortunately it might happen but it happens to most in that game

wicked hedge
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looks like it just glitched out

zenith mortar
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So its not just you

turbid osprey
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how long this usually take?

turbid osprey
wicked hedge
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maybe i loose 50 trophies, and win the other game gaining 15

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xd

turbid osprey
turbid osprey
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mine is still 8/8, im not in your game right?

wicked hedge
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noopes

wicked hedge
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wonder if im in the other game as well xd

turbid osprey
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probably not, you must have queued back in your first stuck lobby

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oh mine is starting now

languid sparrow
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Note that the issue hapenned rught after 00:00 UTC during the 1st round of game. a game normally last around 41min 25 sec "depending on the region maybe change"

turbid osprey
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@neat walrus @whole galleon game started

whole galleon
whole galleon
languid sparrow
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*I will be posting result for the 1st game when there complete *

cursive echo
open ibex
hollow orbit
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Between 0:00 and 1:00 UTC, it will take about 20 minutes for the game to start even if it is 8/8. In other words, if you wait 20 minutes, the game will start, so it's a good idea to check repeatedly.

languid sparrow
zenith mortar
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Like I said they are investigating a fix

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They are already aware of the cause

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Just needs to be fixed

languid sparrow
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Yep, all good

ivory rune
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its actually really good that these bugs are surfacing now, and not later after a big marketing push

lapis citrus
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Hi
Is anyone else getting error 400 when trying to find a ranked match?

arctic steppe
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now the bug is more than a hour 🄹

arctic steppe
lapis citrus
arctic steppe
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@lapis citrus

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i enter the game

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@ivory rune

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u are here afk bro

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log in

ebon aspen
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@bronze spire did you experience lag that game ?

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everything moved in slow motion 🤣

bronze spire
dusty gust
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anyone got a class combo chart? looking at you @languid sparrow ....:)

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fighter + figter =beserker etc

manic gale
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how o bond?

zenith mortar
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Or bench a bonded illuvla to unbknd

manic musk
dull wind
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the '+' above the ranger we had be4 was very intuitive. And we could still show the bonding affinities on mouseover the illuvial.

turbid osprey
manic musk
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Yes the + was better than also holding the illuvium above the ranger. Sometimes holding escape and you cant bond in time

dull wind
turbid osprey
ashen mango
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I would love if the ranger would bond back with an illuvial we benched then put back on the board when we didn't bond with another illuvial in between

safe valve
dull wind
dull wind
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ok now I have to go play a game to see that big fat text...

languid sparrow
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Might also be overwelming with too much information for new player

dull wind
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No wonder I never saw this...

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usually my eyes are on the bottom of the screen looking at the bench and when the round starts the message disappears.

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if you have to have a text message explaining some game mechanic it just shows how non intuitive it is.

fallen vortex
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@bronze spire with 4 players getting Jokull I have no clue how U got Jotun

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I loved how we kept having a sear vs Jotun showdown in the centre of the board tho

bronze spire
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DMTs rhamphyre 1 shot my board in the end, even through invuln augment haha

ashen mango
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How is this possible? 😭 @bronze spire

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You must have had better lobbies compared to your elo on average

bronze spire
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and my non top 4 games were at starting rating

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bar 1 maybe

winter breach
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gg @valid stirrup well played

valid stirrup
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gg BRO

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Nice game

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šŸ˜„

winter breach
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yeah quality over numbers proven šŸ™‚