🎮〕illuvium-zero

[placid finch]

What if you don’t get any land at 5k?

[thin wolf]

you can get Tier1 land for like 3500USd if you buy right away.

based on current market

[oak solstice]

If you would get the info you want the dutch auction would be pointless because someone would do the math to tell you what price is a good price and all the land would sell above that.

[static phoenix]

I think you should have a look at Scoriox’s channel, he has been showing a calculator where you can juge at what price each land tier is affordable depending on your revenue forecast of the game

[harsh acorn]

Im personally still hoping for Tier 1 at $420.69 if it falls to that price I will ape in.

[umbral hull]

I'm gonna be doing an on-chain analysis of which times of day are best, too. Will be on my twitch. Should be fun!

[void raft]

Well for Americans 3.5k is a small amount right? but I need to think a little about spending 1/10 of my yearly salary on such a speculation, so thats all 🙂

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-peter-brown-james-quillus-dungeon-rundown-the-dungeon-run-agreed-gif-16074085

[umbral hull]

Yep, gotta be careful! If it's too much, don't fomo in.

[umbral hull]

Should only be investing in this type of risky stuff once you already have emergency savings and some low-risk traditional investments.

[harsh acorn]

Sounds like you should consult a financial advisor, I would assume most of us don't meet that criteria

[umbral hull]

Well... Any financial advisor is going to yell at you if you tell them you're buying magic internet land, haha...

[harsh acorn]

I treat my crypto investments like others would a casino. My expendable income goes to it as my entertainment value.

[umbral hull]

That's even safer than me. I do treat them as investments. Just very risky ones... I buy "income index funds" and such to offset the risk.

[harsh acorn]

Yes diversification helps a lot. I like investing long term so when short term storms and dips come they don't phase me.

[south anchor]

I don’t do any of that

I’m going to sell my IRL land to buy ILV land

And no one can stop me

[umbral hull]

I wish you luck, sire.

[umbral hull]

If you invested in Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge, I'm sure you became a millionaire.

[south anchor]

“I would recommend, safe investment”
You have selected ILV land sale”
“Are you sure you choose this”
“You have selected yes”

[umbral hull]

"I would recommend, Tier 1."
"You have selected, 10 Tier 4s."
"Are you sure?"
"You have selected, yes."

[south anchor]

Hahahaha dude

Your my new best friend, that’s hilarious

[umbral hull]

"Would you like to be best friends?"
"You have selected, yes."

[harsh acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-yolo-hru-good-hbu-gif-23121026

[harsh acorn]

Much like others would in a Casino I pick the gambles that are in my favor and are the most fun. Illuvium land could be your powerball ticket to the moon.

[umbral hull]

The moon? I want to retire to Brightland Steppes.

[harsh acorn]

The moon is on the next expansion of the ILV MMORPG. FYI

[harsh acorn]

I actually am super stoked for the Ice regions of the game even though I hate the cold iRL

[solar topaz]

It will be impossible to create a gas war with the planned sale... there are going to be just 278 transactions per hour...

[harsh acorn]

Definitely helps having a Dutch auction for sure. From what i understand multiple people can bid on each transaction which can multiply that number fairly quickly.

[solar topaz]

? how can multiple people bid? It's just going to be a "buy now" button

potentially you have to somehow lock it before, but I assume that is not going to be on chain

[umbral hull]

Me too. Might be the one I want to get!!

[harsh acorn]

I see makes sense. I was wondering how they would decide who gets to buy first. IF purchasing at the same time

Im guessing the person willing to pay more gets the sale

[solar topaz]

yes. they will maybe have a feature like some hotel booking sites where it says "X people are watching this atm" and you can watch a certain number in parallel

thats just my speculation from a few hints, could be totally wrong

[harsh acorn]

Makes sense I imagine tier 1 land may run into this issue due to being more affordable than other tiers

[umbral hull]

Nah it's going to be who puts it in first. There is no "pay more" in the dutch auction.

[harsh acorn]

Thats right, I guess there will be a system that puts the land in your cart and removes it from others to buy. If the sale doesn't go through that will create some interesting effects. Purchasing on Layer 1 is definitly not instant from my experience.

[solar topaz]

Don't think so. People would exploit that if you could really block someone from buying. I speculate they want to minimize the potential for concurrent buys, yes. But just by scaring you with showing other observers. If a certain number of people is staring at the same plot, someone is likely to lose his sh*t and click...

[tranquil python]

Can we buy land in batch? Like 4 T1 at the same time?

[low geode]

I know one that doesn’t but he drank the Metaverse kool aid

[low geode]

I guess that would depend on the Americans situation…just like everyone else.

[little moon]

Do we know what fuel for what is? shard, travel and x? and how the icon is looking. Just have seen the video of iluvitar, try to understand where will be witch fuel 🙂

[analog inlet]

nothing about illuvium overworld economics has been reveled yet

[proud crescent]

Hey guys. Does the land sale take place on IMX or ETH L1?

[quick flower]

Beautiful

[vapid bough]

Explained in the new Land article in #📣〕announcements
It's a combination of both

[proud crescent]

Okay thank you!

[unreal bobcat]

question what is an IMX wallet? Can i just use my metamask or do i need a new wallet to store the land?

[lofty cape]

FInally in #📣〕announcements https://illuvium.medium.com/51-land-sale-explained-8cbadfb6a6b5

please read and review they cover most questions in the article

[proud crescent]

Are all 7 regions available in the first land sale? I couldnt find an answer in the new article

[lofty cape]

they should be yes

I assume since they talk about all 7 regions they will be available

[simple estuary]

There a countdown timer ⏱ for the land sale to begin?

[lofty cape]

I might use Kierans strategy for buying land now 🙂

[unreal bobcat]

what is that strategy

[umbral badge]

@noble quest
Previously land was being marketed as being 1 of the first projects to sell land with an immediate use.
And so Originally it was said that Illuvium Zero Alpha would be available at land sale.

Recent interview (JohnnyA via Polemos AMA) adjusted that to possibly 2-3 weeks after land sale.

Latest document on website says 4+ weeks (which could be any period of time).

Could it please be clarified what is the current best estimate of when Illuvium Zero ALPHA will release?

And then when the BETA will release, which would allow people to actually generate Fuel to sell?

I feel this is important to clarify now, as previous discussions has been very focused on Illuvium Land having "immediate use" unlike all those projects that sell land then need to wait Months or Years before it can be used...

And my understanding is the delay is related to Art assets, and wanting to make sure everything that Illuvium releases is of a AAA level quality, so that it can clearly compete against Web2 level quality.

Which I can see the value and reasoning for that decision.

Also I completely understand that time frames and decisions and such change over time.
Part of Web3 is building in front of the community, and keeping the community informed. And that also means that the community are now seeing more of what happens with projects, why delays occur, why things change etc.
And so it is completely understandable that what might have been said 6 months, 3 months or even 1 month ago has changed, because this is part of what happens building a project.
In Web2 you don't see 95% of this, only the final Release date.

So I just want to clarify I definitely understand why the message may have changed.

[analog inlet]

From what i have herd -

• alpha land should be releases "sometime" after land sale
• all progress wiped
• Zero beta (live ) the same time open beta overworld goes live

[umbral hull]

In gaming, everything gets delayed. I never listen to expected dates anymore.

I pay attention to progress. Is progress being made? Is the team transparently showing it? If so, cool. If not, scammy.

The Illuvium team is awesome but things will be delayed. I'm in it for the long term. I care 0% about if Illuvium: Zero comes out 2 weeks after the land sale or 8 weeks after the land sale.

It's hard to be patient. So I make it easier by not sweating the small stuff.

[harsh acorn]

From the medium article answers this "For Tier 1–4 Land, we utilise a Dutch Auction to address FOMO and botting. We are confident that a Dutch Auction with a long duration is the best way to prevent a gas war. To further reduce excess gas spending, we have implemented a system that reduces the ability for two parties to bid on the same Land plot, minimising the number of failed transactions."

[proud crescent]

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad" - Shigeru Miyamoto (creator Mario, Zelda, Star Fox, etc)

[quick grail]

Still feel like we should actually be seeing some gameplay before the land sale. All actual in game stuff has been very minimal and most has been written about not shown

[umbral hull]

Which game? Because there are 1000+ people in the autobattler private beta right now...

[umbral hull]

Or if you're talking about Illuvium: Zero... I have no need to see more gameplay. They already showed it being played, plus screenshots of the new graphics. It's a very simple game. Way simpler to create than the main game. So I'm not worried. So I wonder what gameplay you still need?

[latent kiln]

soooo bullish

want to play the game right now !!!!!!! xD

[umbral badge]

The main reason I ask the question is to try and get a better idea of the investment side of it.
When is the right time to buy, what events may cause market dips, potential opportunity cost of funds tied up etc.

So I 100% believe in the project, in the game, and fully understand quality is important to build the solid future foundation of Illuvium.

But I still would like to understand the adjusted/updated overall situation and schedule

[harsh acorn]

So sILV2 used to purchase land would need to be the same value in Eth at the time of purchase? For example 1 ETH = 10.9879 sILV2 right now. If the land sales for 1 ETH you would need 10.9879 to buy if you went the sILV route?

[umbral hull]

Understandable. A lot of people are asking about that.

I won't tell you how to think, but at least for me, from an investment perspective, a few weeks here and there are not important. Transparent, real, high-quality game development is 1000x more important, imo. So I don't know if I would be pinging a founder asking about the schedule, but that's just me.

[umbral hull]

sILV2 will be held to the price of ILV for purposes of the land sale. So you use the ETH-ILV conversion. The benefit of using sILV2 is that it is currently selling at a discount relative to ILV, so you can spend less to get more, at this time. So in the current situation, you do not want to buy with ETH.

[harsh acorn]

Makes sense now I was wondering why it matters if it's pegged to silv2-eth conversion

[umbral hull]

Unless you're looking at T5 land, which must be bought with ETH. If that's the case, please be my friend.

[quick grail]

Yeah IZ. I don’t really need any but just if you go to official channels there isn’t a hell of a lot out there for investors to go off video wise. I’m all about overworld and catching/hunting holos. But I’ll still get land. Was mainly saying it coz I know some people are actually more excited about IZ than the main game

[harsh acorn]

No whale siting to be found lol

[quick grail]

Maybe show us an actual example of a blueprint etc

[umbral hull]

They're shown basically everything. You can also see which buildings do what and their names on IlluvialMaster's website. So they haven't shown minting a blueprint... I don't see the big deal.

You said "we should actually be seeing some gameplay before the land sale." That doesn't make sense to me. We've seen tons.

[oak ruin]

*Landowners will be able to keep Blueprint NFTs obtained during the Illuvium Zero: Alpha; this is our way of saying thank you for early participation.

oh yeah

[umbral hull]

Could be huge. Build your cities to hunt blueprints and nothing else, during the alpha, lol

[latent kiln]

there is a plan to have a MOBA in the future?

[umbral badge]

I agree that a few weeks would not make a big difference.
But if we are looking at potentially 6 months from Land sale to Fuel Production... I think that would impact a lot of peoples decision.

The reason I pinged a Founder and Council member, was to try and get updated information, to help keep the wider community informed.
As even in Community Content that are being produced, many people are still repeating the same statement of "Illuvium Land will have immediate use"
So I just thought it best to get clarity on the situation.

I absolutely understand the team are all busy, and have no concerns if my message does not get a reply from Kieran.
But I did want to make it clear that it was a question directed to the team, and not to another community member who would not have additional information than we already have.

Also, it is great for you to have your strong conviction regarding your own investments.
but for me, I will also want to be smart with my money, my decisions, and if I can see a potential dip coming, then I will look to add to my holding then, rather than FOMO in at the start.

[marsh sage]

It’s been discussed openly that it’s the most logical next title to launch. All of the character work from the arena can be ported and mobas are fairly quick to spin up compared to a lot of other genres

[latent kiln]

dope, i love the moba style, from the original dota in w3

[quick flower]

You have to find it. That's why it's fun

[rotund forum]

Is there any map available yet on the lands that will be sold in june?

[harsh acorn]

I wonder what will be on the Island....

[spring jetty]

T0 I think

[quick grail]

If you have watched illuvial insiders. Basically all of them are nothing new to people like myself who devour illuvium content. But they are done in a nice, concise, clean and professional way for the general public to consume. We haven’t had anything like that on IZ. On illuviums YouTube channel there is a pre alpha footage which looks like dog shit. There might be a little more updated footage buried in there somewhere coz I have seen some just can’t find it rn. All the footage I’ve seen has everything built already. Could show the buildings under construction or are they just blonked on there fully built but in a cool down before use? Stuff like that I’m not asking for a 15 minute live gameplay. Just show a little bit of it off and explain a few things clearer. Like the blueprints thing. Show a slide of concept art of what some cool looking armour skins could be like or even a weapon skin. I’ve never heard anyone mention it there are skins for illuvials themselves. Like a mecha ramphyre or something. I’ve only ever heard weapons and armour being used as examples. I am saying these things more to help than anything. Showing a ranger in a red suit with ramphyre wings and helm on it or something is cooler than reading about blueprints in the small print

[quick grail]

Yeah that’s just sanctum mesa the home base. Either T0 illuvials or nothing

[harsh acorn]

Oh that makes sense so there are technicaly 8 land areas.

[quick grail]

Yup. Man i can’t wait to see it all brought to life

[quasi canyon]

So in the situation where there is a huge influx of players (more fuel demand) would land plots simply generate more fuel? Specifically when the increase in demand causes fuel price to hit the +25% price bumper. Because if the DAO produces the fuel to account for the increased demand, that would decrease profit for land owners

I get that it would incentivize land owners to sell, but what if there just isnt enough fuel to keep up with the demand?

[harsh acorn]

They have stated that they are playing the Alpha internally. The devs of this game are more transparent than I have ever seen in web2 or web3. They are not showing the gameplay for a good reason. I believe it to be that Grant and his team recently overhauled the assets so im sure they are ironing that out.

[harsh acorn]

The DAO can vote to inscrease the amount of Fuel produced by land plots to ensure there is enough to meet demands I believe

[hearty cradle]

guys i think the marketing is deliberately low key because of :

• bear market
• 1st land sale to benefit old stakers

[lapis ledge]

Can Elements be listed on the Illuvidex?

[hearty cradle]

no

[quick grail]

Yeah oh I have no doubt in the team. Just saying it would be nice to see a few more things before land sale. Some of these tiers ain’t cheap and it would likely help people have more conviction if they see examples of skins. Tbh skins is going to be my main reason to even buy land lol i know it’s not even guaranteed I will ever find a blueprint. But im a gambling degen and can’t resist that “what if” scenario

[hearty cradle]

this land sale is a gift for old stakers

[quick grail]

Damn this market lmao I sold quite a few things to make a big sILV2 play. Was hoping to flip it for enough profit to pay for a land for nothing plus more. I’m probably only just gonna come out above water on my sILV2 trade but it was still the right move as basically everything I sold to fund it is down a lot more in comparison

[hearty cradle]

With the benefit of megacity

• landmarks staking
• shared structures

Whales, VCs and guilds will ape in T3 and T4. They will hold.

T1 and T2 price will dip in June and July, guess whos gonna buy the dip then

[placid finch]

Guys I have a question why only 5 percent goes to land? Shouldn’t it be atleast 20 percent? Why so low

[oak ruin]

omg... the blood on the markets is insane

[hearty cradle]

5% distributed to less people

[placid finch]

Perfect time to buy silv2

[placid finch]

Less meaning?

[hearty cradle]

5% distributed to 20K plots
95% distributed to 7m tokens

[placid finch]

Ahh I get it so when more land is introduced the percent will increase

[hearty cradle]

5% is A LOT

[oak ruin]

The Eth price is collapsing disproportionately. lets get Illuvium to the XRP ledger next year

[hearty cradle]

no

[oak ruin]

i bought silv2 for 270 dolars when ilv was 500, thinking i was a genius hahaha

[hearty cradle]

oh man

[placid finch]

When silv2 was 100 dollars I missed out

[hearty cradle]

well looks like we gonna see it once more

[amber fjord]

Will zero be available in Canada?

[hearty cradle]

coke or illuvium

[amber fjord]

@hearty cradle illuvium zero

[oak ruin]

no boundaries

[hearty cradle]

if it is unavailable to your region's appstore/googleplay i expect the apk is downloadable from the website, or you can play on your browser

[placid finch]

Which region you looking forward too?

[harsh acorn]

Eth is dropping below a key level at 1750 usd. It may go all the way down to 1500 or so is the next key support level. Eth may be getting more affordable as well. Does sILV2 generally follow ETH?

[placid finch]

Yes my money ready to get them silv2

[harsh acorn]

same here Im glad I was a little unsure about getting land it made me put off purchase of eth/silv2 lol

[steep horizon]

Is there a safe place to acquire more sILV2?

[noble quest]

It's set to come out 3-4 weeks after the land sale

The alpha is looking great. It would have been out a few days after but @violet karma wanted to revamp the graphics last minute. Which I think was a very smart move because now the graphics looks triple a also

[steep horizon]

It pays to have a perfectionist. Painful as it may be sometimes 😆

[analog inlet]

sILV-2 FYI

Buying silv-2 has nothing to do with the DAO

the sILV-2 token can be officially used within the illuvium ecosystem no mater how its obtained

You need DYOR to find any information about unofficial pools and unofficial value graphs

• sILV -2 is NOT an official investment and it was never intended to be traded or speculated.
• the only OFFICAL way to get SILV v2 is though staking rewards ** <--------------------------**
• Illuvium DAO will NOT be making an official pool for sILV-2.
• to find a unofficial sILV -2 pool exists DYOR to find it
• the official sILV-2 contract can be found in #🔗〕helpful-links
• just because ERC-20 token DOES NOT inherently make it "officially tradable"

FYI: Trading sILV -2 will

• be unofficial
• not be supported by the DAO
• be at your own risk
• have inherent risk

[umbral badge]

Thank you for the update and clarification

[proud crescent]

You can get it on Uniswap

[hushed cipher]

What are you guys planning to have ready for a T1 land, 1eth? 0.5? More? It's all a guess of course but trying to get a feel for what people are expecting

[spare merlin]

Hi guys sorry, IMX wallet is the same as metamask or we'll need to connect a separate wallet?

[umbral badge]

my own interaction with IMX was that it was on their webpage.
My wallet connected to them, and then everything was done via their website

[spare merlin]

Okay but using Metamask, not a separate software wallet?

[umbral badge]

Correct, I use Metamask to connect to IMX.
Then IMX has its own little popup that you sign and such.

At least that is how it worked when I bought things a month or so ago.

They did recently say they were releasing a Metamask/IMX Mobile wallet. Which I have not looked into

[spare merlin]

Okay thank you

[umbral badge]

for the Purchase of the land though, it will all be done via the Illuvium website as part of the Illuvidex.

[sleek flicker]

Depends on your availability and risk tolerance.

I can guarantee you'll get 1 T1 for .5ETH IF you can stay vigilant of the sale for 12-18 hrs

[hearty cradle]

IMX do a great job integrating with MM, it will be just an extra click

it is the withdrawing asset that still need to be sped up

up to 24 hours, one withdrawal at one time

[noble quest]

heh

[ionic vine]

Will the tier of the land effect the chances of finding rare blueprints?

[muted bloom]

will the additional 80,000 plots of land be sold prior to game going live?

or will they be sold in future expansions/releases?

[hearty cradle]

no

[hearty cradle]

no

i believe it will follow the growth of revenue

[muted bloom]

Awesome thanks. Just trying to figure out how much rev share each plot will get. So i'll assume it will be just the 20,000 plots for now. It'd be great to have some type of timeline on the others

[noble quest]

Originally that was the plan, but the game design team changed things last minute.
Can you confirm @thorn wren

Fairly sure the efficiency bonuses apply to the singularity scanner as well. He will confirm shortly

[analog inlet]

this might help understand how #🎮〕illuvium-zero landowner revenue works #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[coarse wave]

yeah gonna wait and see which timezone is least active

How does the team look to avoid botting during low activity hours or peak hours during the sale?

[sleek flicker]

Same here. I've got 17 Uptimes and a coffee maker to get me through the 3 day sale. Let's hope I won't need ALL of them

[umbral hull]

I did an on-chain analysis of this, gonna post it on my twitch. If you're interested, follow and you'll see it :)

Will prob post it a day or two before the sale.

[coarse wave]

Honestly im un decided if i get better yield and just giving my T1 to my axie scholars. OR just buy Tier 2+ for fewer players....

[thorn wren]

So the singularity scanner's scan success rate will depends on its efficiency, and its efficiency will increase depending on the number of structures around it, the more isolated the scanner is the higher its efficiency.

Currently there is no advantage for scanning/researching efficiency rates given a land tier. So a tier 1 land can scan/research with similar success rate as a higher tier land. the only advantage could be because higher tier lands will produce larger amounts of elements, which are needed to perform a scan/research. The elements required to scan/research is not yet finalized but it wont be an excessive amount that would hinders lower tier land owners from scanning/researching.

[coarse wave]

How does the team look to avoid botting during low activity hours or peak hours during the sale?

[thorn wren]

@amber atlas is more suited to take on that question 😄

[umbral badge]

This makes sense.
Lower tier lands are more likely to be crowded with buildings (storage, converters etc) and thus impact the scanner.
Whereas higher Tier would theoretically need less buildings overall, and thus possibly give the scanner a higher efficiency

[thorn wren]

actually it should the opposite, since higher tier lands would have lots of sites that need extractors to be built on them.

ideally what we want to achieve is that players need to decide weather they want to optimize their production efficiency by scattering the converters or optimizing their scanner efficiency by grouping their structures (harming the converters efficiency) and isolating their scanner.

[umbral hull]

I think the format of the sale makes it pretty bot-resistant, tbh.

[tender raptor]

Hello, any specific date for first Rev dis, as not detailed on the ilvzero paper?

[noble quest]

Thank god. I said on a few AMAs that it wouldn't 😅

[queen folio]

Nope, no specific date. The system is designed to have the revenue distributed randomly, so people cannot game the system

[noble quest]

Distribution will be set by the council once we have data on how much is raised

[tender raptor]

Aaa thats good to avoid traders ty

[tender raptor]

Thanks sir

[undone skiff]

Question: Aside from collecting resources and scanning for blueprints. What kind of "End Game" does Illuvium Zero offer? After maxing out all levels of structures, what will make us log in everyday?

[tender raptor]

Thanks sir

[queen folio]

Well you’ll have to log in to collect your resources if you want to then use/sell them, at least 😄

And also log in to conduct the research for Illuvial biodata so you can try to get those blueprints.

But aside from that, Johnny mentioned a while back that they might be implementing daily challenges/tasks for the land which then results in an achievements type system

Keep in mind, land hasn’t even been minted yet and open alpha hasn’t started yet. This is a verrryyy early stage for land and its development.

I anticipate more and more will be added on to the Illuvium: Zero plate as time goes on

[undone skiff]

Thank you. What you said is you also what i also so far. I was hoping the community would know more about those daily challenge / task. I guess that is what the core contributors have leaked so far.

[undone skiff]

True :) Who knows, one day we might evven get a player housing feature. We can only dream :)

[dark kettle]

Since its a dutch auction, and we as the market will determine the price of lands by when we all buy it out, do people think land will still sell for more on secondary? I feel like it wont because people can essentially buy at what they are happy to pay, or completely miss out and then be out price in secondary

[coarse wave]

i think after the sale. the best would be for someone to track the average selling price then we can as a community decide on a floor?

[dark kettle]

Yeah i guess, i just feel like its easier to just buy and stake more ILV if you have extra liquidity, land seems like it could go either way

[undone skiff]

on the short term, I think land prices will never sell for more in the secondary markets.

[dark kettle]

yeah thats my thoughts, and theres another 80k plots on the way too

[undone skiff]

actually delete that, There is a chance that it sell for more in the secondary after alpha release

if you read the document, it says that blueprints earned during the alpha is yours and will not be reset. (as a way to reward testers)

[dark kettle]

thats probably the only situation where they sell for a flip on secondary, is when alpha gets released or the first fuel earning, and people that didnt know about the land sale want to now get in

[faint nexus]

How good will that be when landowners will ask:

-"Where you from?"
-"From Brightland steps,mate"

😁

[hearty cradle]

an overhyped DA will sell close to starting price, and flipper will list them almost 2x

and things usually go downhill from there

remember, we dnt know exactly when IZ alpha is coming
could be 2, 4, 8 weeks

there are more negative sentiments in june and july

[spring jetty]

alpha also doesn't have real profit

[hearty cradle]

those BP could be common af

we dnt know

[spring jetty]

with 50% success rate, we could get 10k bp per day

[hearty cradle]

if i remember correctly, we are limited to one scan per day

and you have to do research to progress

[thin wolf]

Was there a % probability to get a scan?

[hearty cradle]

I wished the land document touched on some mechanics, it's pretty much the info that we have already known

Aside from landmark stacking and structure sharing

[coarse wave]

yeah I heard ALPHA doesnt have P2E yet.

[spring jetty]

we wont make any profit until open beta

[coarse wave]

When BETA? approx?

[hearty cradle]

i read something about that pinned

[spring jetty]

nobody knows, just be calm and dont fomo

[coarse wave]

will fomo buy land mate. iz good.

[hearty cradle]

Open beta
imo Q4

gluck stucked with an nft

maybe i can use land as pfp

[coarse wave]

my bet on GoG guilds during 1st mint was a godlike investment. I think aping into this for the rest of the year will be 9999 IQ play too

[spring jetty]

we dont have even have any news on beta for over world yet

the last time I heard Crimson Wasteland was 80% down, and they wanna release 4 at the start

[hearty cradle]

imo Q3

[spring jetty]

i hope over world is well optimized, my laptop can barely run survivor mode

[hearty cradle]

your laptop wont have a chance lol

[spring jetty]

i hope computer spec wont block too many people from playing

i will get a new computer by then lol

[hearty cradle]

20s and 30s gpus will have further discount leading to september 40s release

[spring jetty]

mining is getting less and less profitable now lol

[hearty cradle]

oh man, it's getting closer to electricity cost

[rose maple]

Have people decided where they want land? Crystal Shores is looking the most interesting RN.

[simple grove]

For the blue prints - do you also get weapons blue print?

[simple grove]

Why? I thought crimson would

[rose maple]

I think there are secrets crystallised in the ground 😋

[tardy fern]

the bps that we can farm to create skins, are they going to be like what was posted in #🚰〕leaks ?

[tardy fern]

thats the thing, mining has to stay profitable otherwise no one is going to validate trx out of the good of their heart

if people stop validating trx, well.....

[vague tide]

So landsale date will change from 9:00 utc to 13:00 utc??

[celest narwhal]

Yes, they announced a couple of days ago.

[slow cedar]

Not being able to buy on mobile devices is going to suck. I'm away for the period, but a lot of people can't just dedicate the three days to being sat at a pc

[hearty cradle]

no

[hearty cradle]

if you are talking about m0z4rt skins then yes

[hearty cradle]

well it is a demand shock, not a supply shock

it will find balance

i still run my rigs, regardless

[slow cedar]

OK, so one question I had after reading the article: what happens to lands unsold in their 2 hour window? It mentioned they get returned to the illuvium vault but then what?

[vapid bough]

Apologies, that part is beyond our control. There is an issue with IMX and mobile authentification. We have reached out to them for an update on this, but no guarantees it would be resolved before the Land sale - so we added in that disclaimer.

[slow cedar]

Gotcha, makes sense. Better to over perform and keep expectations in check

[vapid bough]

@tardy fern @simple grove Blueprints are confirmed to be skins for armor and other items. (Weapons won't be included since they are already full of graphics according to their affinity)

[eternal wigeon]

Havent read the article in depth yet, but do u need to connect your mm wallet to imx b4 the landsale?

[vapid bough]

I hear that. Illuvium: Zero deserves it's own detailed doc tbh. The game info was simply too massive to include this time around.

Also as many mechanics and things will be changed during Alpha and Beta testing, it doesn't make sense to publish a defining document on IZ at this time.

[mystic umbra]

I really hope people don’t fomo

[vapid bough]

Optional to do ahead of time once IlluviDex launches and easy to do so.

[mystic umbra]

I can’t afford it 🤣

[hearty cradle]

less than 7 days

[hearty cradle]

is the marketing releasing a vid on the gameplay?

and "how to" purchase?

[vapid bough]

Some of those 80,000 may not be released until a couple of years away. We will always consider demand and Land owner well being when looking at land sale timings.

[hearty cradle]

revenue growth is a more important indicator

[vapid bough]

More focused on the land sale at the moment rather than IZ specifically.
Land tiers video coming soon
How to video on Illuvidex coming soon
Andrew is working on both of those now.

[hearty cradle]

i really need to watch something good in this market

been sad lately

[vapid bough]

Yeah, many things like this will be considered also.

[mystic umbra]

I just need this land sale to go my way, I don’t even care if IZ doesn’t have the greatest start I just want in 😂

[hearty cradle]

@vapid bough congrats on the land doc, i like this image

[vapid bough]

Thanks. @grizzled osprey helped me get all those awesome images ready for the article, using assets that the IZ and art teams have been working so hard on lately.

[hearty cradle]

might use it as my pfp when nft is crashing

kinda reminds me of a pizza deal

[vapid bough]

Which tier of pizza you going for? 🍕

[hearty cradle]

just T1 for each region

[vapid bough]

Similar to Andrew's strategy - spread out for diversity.

[hearty cradle]

yea, i wan land to play early and free skins

not looking to compete with the whales

hbu? which region is your fav

halycon looking hawt

halycon land and corona beer

[rose maple]

I want to see what's at the bottom of the Halycon Sea

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/hamak-chilling-beach-summer-vacation-gif-17726234

this could be us
neighbors in the sand

[vapid bough]

So hard to pick a favorite. I'm re-evaluating after watching that awesome land regions video with Rogier and Andrew that dropped yesterday

[hearty cradle]

see, T1 for each is the best play

[mystic umbra]

Oh really you think so

[hearty cradle]

oh im not looking for ROI at all

[rose maple]

I just finished watching it, blown away by the art.

There were at least 10 zones I couldn't wait to explore.

[little moon]

i feel that i am in avatar/horizon0. it will be something that will blow our minds.

[spring jetty]

everyone seems to have their own estimated price for land, it's up to the whales to decide now

[rose maple]

The hanging cities reminded me of Avatar as well. I wondered if there were any Welyn fans on the design team for Abyssal Pumpkins 🤣

[little moon]

for sure, and i hope on the end of the end we will se avatar 2. And mb they will ad more stuf. Is just me or i feel that land was incomplete, like is more room to be aded more regions in the future.

[little moon]

i think they will be whiting us to decide the price, and they will just buy, to a bit higher price. is no point to buy at 1 eth, when general public want it for 0.5 But i may be wrong.

[hearty cradle]

which region is this?

[mystic umbra]

I thought the community voted to raise the prices?

[little moon]

Is some one here who want to but Tire 3? or Tire 2, to buy it close one to another, for future merging in one big city?

[karmic imp]

can we choose legion?

[little moon]

yes, to avoid scenario when the community will really dont have option to buy it. Now there is room for both.

[mystic umbra]

Yes I believe you do

I see I see. Well, let’s just hope the whales don’t go based off of initial price. I’m familiar with Dutch auctions but have never participated in any. Does anyone have any experience with Dutch auctions and would say there is an average % drop from initial amounts or does it just entirely vary from auction to auction

[rose maple]

Brightland Steppes

[rose maple]

Yep 😉

[mystic umbra]

Since gas prices have been so low would $100 in eth be enough for gas to cover transactions do you guys think? Just trying to estimate how much eth I should keep to an silv2 ratio in my account at the time of sale

[little moon]

i have bad experience to auctions, i bouth a coin for 1000$ and it become 100$, second day, and now is 1.5$ 🙂

This way they do it differently, and during 3 days.

[simple grove]

There will be FOMO, There will be people missing out after the land sale. So we can buy via illuvadex straight away right?

[little moon]

yes, 100$ will be enough for sure. if in whole market will not be panic, like bitcoin droping to 25k.

[mystic umbra]

See that’s my fear. There’s going to be a ton of fomo buyers and I’m not about to let their wild antics take control of me

But I also do not want to miss out and have to wait for the next land sale

[simple grove]

Illuvadex is good if you missed out. Probably little more expensive

[hearty cradle]

• usually there are 20% flippers
• holders swapping lands to get better nodes

[little moon]

I am sure, after land sale, and some one who will have good luck, will buy the land for les, then average, and they may want to sell it at average price. This way you can just buy after land sale. + from the article, we will need time to convert the fuel in another one, the most needed fuel will have more value, and that mean the land will be more pricy.

[simple grove]

I’m ok paying 20% more if buying on illuvadex. I can’t do 3 day no sleep

[hearty cradle]

do you know which fuel is most needed?

[little moon]

i guess, that we will use for transport. the shards you can keep, till you catch one. the 3 one is for blueprints, if i did not misunderstand something. But who knows, mb the quantity generated is diferent.

[hearty cradle]

exactly, we dnt know

we dnt know the rate of production, we dnt know the cost of fuel, we dnt know shit

the safest bet is to get 3 of them

[little moon]

🙂 i will try tire 3. but any way all this complexity, is so interesting, i am sure will be a fun game to play and earn some rev. I wish in the future they some how will integrate those land in the actual game, not sure how, but something like metaverse.

my GF alredy know she will play it 🙂

[karmic imp]

which tier?

[vapid bough]

Not possible to know these things without proper beta testing and balancing. It would be irresponsible if we tried to make any quotes at this point.

We do know that Land owners will be rewarded by selling their fuel to a balancer pool that will result in approximately 5% of Illuvium fuel revenues (across all games) going to Land owners.

[ivory vine]

Quote: Tier 5 Land is sold using an English Auction format. This is a standard auction type with bidders pushing the price upwards with their bid until the auction time limit is reached. This auction shares the same start and end times as the overall Land sale, lasting three days.

I still don't understand the reasoning behind this considering that those deep pockets bidding to the end of the T5 auction and not winning will lose out on the opportunity to throw money at T1-T4 instead. This might very well just be me being oblivious of good reasons for that approach, so wondering if this has been explained already? To me it would have made much more sense to have the T5 auction end much earlier to allow those dropping our pretty late to consider buying lower tier land instead with all the money available.

[hearty cradle]

you can buy T1-T4 from the secondary

[cosmic spade]

correct

[hearty cradle]

i think this is Kieran trying to shield the minnows

[mystic umbra]

To which I’m grateful

[hearty cradle]

i can imagine what will happen if T5 auction is done before the DA

stampede

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-lionking-stampede-rush-gif-4532739

[spring jetty]

does this mean we will be able to start farming bp a few weeks after the auction?

[hearty cradle]

anyway only few parties will bid on T5s (guilds, blue whales)
you guys can afford secondary

A.K.A exit liquidity

[muted tree]

Thanks for the info.
Do you mean the converters efficiency will be also decreased if they were placed too close?

[little moon]

I know ho we can make more money in this sale, just check when some one will try buy 2x2 or 3x3, and just buy one pice 🙂 and then negociate the price with him. Monopoly is not good 🙂

[umbral hull]

It's definitely a strategy that people try to use.

[muted tree]

In today's article : "An Open Alpha version of the game is planned to release some 4+ weeks after the Land sale; this date is subject to change."

[little moon]

there can be so many stuff here. I will not do that, but with time, the value of lan can just grow because some one will want the 2x2 or 3x3. Very random stuff going on here. It will be fun to watch, and interesting the prices of 2-5 sales of the land, how it will be.

[spring jetty]

question here is are we getting alpha or beta after the land sale

[umbral hull]

You will be able to keep blueprint nfts and sell them etc. Not fuel. Fuel will be switched on with the rest of the game.

[muted tree]

It should be alpha.... why did you think it will be beta? lol

[spring jetty]

because alpha is usually for inner test, the game we play right now is beta which is for the public

[vapid bough]

I've submitted your feedback.

[muted tree]

If I remember correctly, it was mentioned in several AMA that "open alpha" is playable for landowners after land sale...

[spring jetty]

open alpha sounds so weird lol

[vapid bough]

It's an alpha release around 4 weeks after land sale since the fuel earning economy won't be live and it will be used to refine gameplay mechanics and economy.
Then we'll have the IZ Open Beta launching around the same time as the main Illuvium Open Beta Launch with revenue earnings enabled.

[spring jetty]

sounds like this alpha is basically same as the upcoming open beta without the ability to trade fuel lol

[umbral hull]

That's what it sounds like to me. But the fuel is such a huge aspect. It's basically the on/off switch for the whole economy.

[vapid bough]

Alpha - Mid-stage development
Closed Beta - testing & adjustments
Open Beta - mostly done, some adjustments still, live earning economy and public release

[spring jetty]

I assume the devs have all the features completed and we are just waiting for the over world essentially

[umbral hull]

I don't know about ALL other features completed, but I agree with you! My impression is that overworld is a major limiting factor. There's just so much to it...

[vapid bough]

Most of Illuvium: Zero game development is done - biggest thing happening right now is the entire art and graphics upgrade that is just SO much better than before.

[little moon]

yes, from erly pictures, i was filing is not that good, hope will be mutch polished.

[spring jetty]

yeah based on what I heard from Kieran, everything else is ready but Grant wanted to upgrade the graphics which leads to a delay

I mean Im fine with that lol

[vapid bough]

Look at the new land sale article to view the updated assets. They are incredibly detailed. Click open original on this in full size for reference to the level of details

[spring jetty]

no complain there cos i will be playing and enjoying the game other than earning anyways

[umbral hull]

No more Command and Conquer lol. Which was kinda neat in a way 😆 But ya this is better.

[vapid bough]

That's why it's now 4 weeks after land sale instead of immediate release. HUGE upgrade though

[little moon]

yes i see, is much much better. now looks like a proper graphics, i do feel it a bit like out of context the buildings, like is 2 separate world. Mb is just me.

[vapid bough]

We crash landed on an alien planet named Illuvium 🚀
It is indeed the meeting of two worlds.

[muted tree]

Will T0 be also playable in open alpha?

[vapid bough]

Yes

[spring jetty]

wait but i thought only the land owners will have access to it

[muted tree]

ok, that means everyone could play IZ in open alpha, both landowners and non-landowners now....

[little moon]

I probably, feel that the details of the land is a bit small comparing to the buildings, if you compare it with othere city building games. from interview yesterday there everything i so so big, but now the buildings are even more then the land.

[vapid bough]

Confirmed by devs that T0 is playable in Alpha release (they are already playing it now).

[vapid bough]

the buildings are meant to be massive in scale

[mellow lake]

I plan to buy a land and would like to have it on my ledger. Can i play the game on my phone without problems or do I then have to constantly confirm transactions?

[umbral hull]

I'm no expert but I don't think you will have to constantly confirm. Assets will be in-game or on IMX layer 2. Only your major deposits/withdrawals should trigger a confirm. At least that's my understanding of it.

Maybe nft sales/buys on IMX, too. Still shouldn't be a bother.

[hearty cradle]

here we go again

[neon light]

Question, say one owns 2 land plots. Can the elements that are collected in land 1 be used in land 2 ? Say to build something on land 2

[hearty cradle]

you know i need it syntha

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-need-gif-21451408

[ivory bough]

Are you referring to this? #📣〕announcements message

[hearty cradle]

you can transfer resources between lands in the same wallet, will it be implemented in alpha? We dnt know yet

[timber sapphire]

I thought only megacities could transfer resources

To plots within

[placid musk]

Great remark from @ivory vine

[vapid bough]

WAT. Please read #📣〕announcements sir.

[placid musk]

Syntha please.... #📣〕announcements

[vapid bough]

lol ❤️ SM

[hearty cradle]

megacity can transfer resources for free

[vapid bough]

#814313779696238642 message

[spring jetty]

will the mega city feature be in the alpha or beta

[vapid bough]

This is 100% a confirmed feature. However details on exactly when it is implemented are still being finalized

[ivory bough]

[sand radish]

@vapid bough you know if through the website we can filter land by tiers across all region ? To be able to monitor many plot at once from the same tier (whatever the region and the position within one)

[stoic plank]

Where are you beta acces?😔🥺

[sand radish]

not sure actually. And was mostly worried after seeing yesterday video

[vapid bough]

Yes, tiers are definitely a working filter option.

Originally this was going to be in article release as a full IlluviDex video walkthrough

• due to a small issue this is still being completed currently and will be edited into the article and shared with the community upon completion

[azure elm]

Sale comes in 6 days I still can't realize

[sand radish]

Okay perfect ! Thanks a lot for being awesome !

[azure elm]

Lmao, it's exactly that

[high sleet]

@cyan bone @noble quest

'A Converter produces double the Resources passively but has a standard conversion output as the boost does not affect conversions.'

From the article.

What does this mean exactly. What does a converter produce passively? And if it produces passively why convert at all? Can I get an example scenario please?

That being said the articles detail and information is excellent, just cant understand this one detail hahah and it feels important

[hearty cradle]

they changed it?

[azure elm]

"Passively" in the way its free and only cost time, I understand it like this

[hearty cradle]

it is to make sure you wont get stuck with no resources

6 daysssssss

6 more meaningless sleep

[spring jetty]

then 3 sleepless nights

[crystal wave]

that will be nice

really hyped to see what prices the land will go for

[rose maple]

At the moment, I can't visualise how the dutch auction will work as well as being able to choose your own land region, but I'm looking forward to finding out how it all works.

[high sleet]

Okay so how much does it produce in comparison to a fuel plot??

@cyan bone plz 😦 I need u buddy

[vapid bough]

Not sure what you mean. Seamless resource sharing was always reserved for mega-cities to my knowledge.

The IZ will still make it easy to play multiple land plots, mega-city or not.

[cyan bone]

Coming in hot 🔥 one sec

[high sleet]

yeet

[high sleet]

Actually while I have u. Are ur fuel resources instant erc20's on land. Or only go on chain when u sell to the balancer?

[vapid bough]

only converted to ERC-20 token when being sold to balancer

[high sleet]

This is what I thought, everyone keeps assuming u can send them to friends

[vapid bough]

That is incorrect.

Even if there is some workaround in the UI in the future to allow some form of "sending" in-game - the backend would still remain as convert to ERC-20 to sell > rebuy from balancer pool.

[high sleet]

and to double down. if u own 5 lands, they dont share. They are greedy (pre mega city)

[high sleet]

is this effectively insta swapping resources without using the converter

or u referring to buying from main game

[vapid bough]

People can just sell and rebuy in the IZ marketplace (read: not IlluviDex). Alternatively can build a converter as you all are discussing

[slow cedar]

@vapid bough could we get clarification as to what happens to any land unsold at the end of the two hours?

[high sleet]

if u can sell and rebuy in marketplace, whats the point of the converter?? Whats the big difference here?

[hearty cradle]

johnny on multiple occassions said we can transfer resources between lands with a fee, and free for megacity

[slow cedar]

My understanding was you either pay resources or time to transfer it off your land - exchanging on your land can also reach over 100% efficiency

[vapid bough]

Ah, I think we're saying the same thing. The last comments around right now are stating the details

[high sleet]

u just said u cant send it to another wallet. (land)..???

[vapid bough]

It's like a UI user experience vs a backend technical thing.

[hearty cradle]

hang on

[potent dock]

If price difference is > X for P2P conversion, and a converter can do conversion at < X, you might still use a converter.

It pretty much just sets a soft floor on the cost of conversion.

[high sleet]

Yeah I suppose so but converter takes time, it seems like a typically weaker option is all

[hearty cradle]

can we send resources between lands in the same wallet without making a megacity?

for example i have a T1 in crimson waste and a T1 in halycon, can i transfer resources between the two lands?

[vapid bough]

no the potential "sending" option I'm talking about would be like an in-game ui thing.

Fuel ERC-20 can only be sold to balancer pool - not sent to another wallet.

[high sleet]

okay so u can send offchain fuel to ur friends? I dont have any, asking for a 'friend'

[vapid bough]

Just something that's been discussed as a possibility - not confirmed. I think it was Johnny that mentioned it in the Polemos AMA if I recall correctly

[high sleet]

I see allg

[cyan bone]

A converter will passively extract resources for example "Condenser Plant, passively extracts small amounts of Hydrogen from the Environment" However, it can reach a capacity at which point it must be collected. This may benefit from the Tier Boost.

However, the Condenser Plant also has a 'Convert' functionality, which exchanges a static amount of Resources for Hydrogen for example 100 Carbon converted to 75 Hydrogen.

[rose maple]

That's pretty fucken cool.

[high sleet]

in the article it says it does get the tier boost.

My big question is, compared to a fuel site found on the land. Whats the production rate?

[cyan bone]

When a converter reaches a maximum 'extraction' this will be visible to the user as the structure will have a 'partially full' and 'full' sprite. As well as a 'notification' showing the player they should 'collect'

[high sleet]

how much does the crypton convertor equivalent produce directly in comparison to a crypton rift

[vapid bough]

This is why IZ needs it's own comprehensive article. Some of this will be changed in Alpha/Beta testing also

[high sleet]

my brain has like 5 pending videos before I explode but these answers are basically the final piece of this puzzle for me

[vapid bough]

lol

[vapid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-mind-blown-gif-13646767

[cyan bone]

It's hard to provide hard numbers unfortunately - Khaled is refining all of the game values

[high sleet]

u can ballpark it 😛 Like how much of an advantage to fuel sites? Its so hard to gauge my numbas 😦

[cyan bone]

Currently a 'Hydrogen Pump' produces 2x what a Converter produces when a conversion takes place

[high sleet]

do hydrogen pumps cap out like converters?

[vapid bough]

Just make sure to add the disclaimer:
NFA - all things subject to change in Alpha/Beta testing 😉

[cyan bone]

Fuel sites are king, they're limited and are unique to your land plot. You're able to build any number of Converters

[high sleet]

also the converters only produce elements passively or elements and fuels?

does a crypton rift have a cap like what u described before? Eg a point where it stops and u gotta tap that bad boy (ignoring storage facilities)

[cyan bone]

Solon, Hyperion, Hydrogen, Silicon, Carbon can be passively extracted. Crypton requires burning of other fuels to generate

[high sleet]

😮 WHAT!!

[cyan bone]

Lucius is 100% correct though, this is subject to balancing and change

[hearty cradle]

we should be getting a video about this

[high sleet]

so the last one is the cap 😛 Do u have to tap your fuel site for it to keep producing? Like the converter and your ||side piece?|| @cyan bone

[cyan bone]

You'll need to actively manage your fuel sites yes. Example 'Hydrogen Pump' action to 'pump hydrogen' which must be collected once the action has been completed

[vapid bough]

This stuff is all in development. There's a reason that there's not a publication lined up for this yet. The foundation is all there, but details are being dialed in on the daily.

[high sleet]

Ah okay awesome, lots of thinking to do. This comparison number between passive generation and fuel sites is so damn important. I know its subject to change but damn I wanna know so bad hahaha. Could they have extra utility in future? Feels like with passive generation they feel a tad weaker

[cyan bone]

Min-maxing your Land Plot is going to be epic. In my view Alpha Land Holders will be 5 steps ahead

Bed-time here, night dude!

[high sleet]

I agree. The change from virtual land to a T2 was a big shadow drop of info btw. Love it

[vapid bough]

knowledge-wise he means

[high sleet]

goodnight bro thanks for all your help both of you I really appreciate it

[vapid bough]

I made sure that one made it in. The people want to know!

[summer salmon]

Did notice this too. Is there a reason why?

[spring jetty]

well every land owner gets alpha so we all have the same advantage lol unless someone buy from secondary market

[high sleet]

If I had to guess, T4 gave too many people a reason to not buy land

[summer salmon]

True get to play the game with no outlay.

[high sleet]

You ever played a tutorial in a game with the final boss included, that'd be funny asf.

[timber sapphire]

Souls games have entered the chat

[vapid bough]

It's like the exact conversation we're having now. People ask for incomplete info. Some team member gives info that could change as it could literally just be a thought in someone's head at that moment. When it comes time to get implemented, something else makes more sense. Then people ask ""why change?"

That's part of the challenge of transparency vs reality of any given situation.

[summer salmon]

Full game for free! You suckers paid for this!

[high sleet]

I'm really glad someone said that ngl

[high sleet]

Yeah you guys have a tough road ahead. You gonna be messing around with ROI's hard here. imo that gap between passive rev and fuel sites is going to be a huge contention point. However I think the solution is actually more creative than numbers based. I think you create external incentive to fuel sites. Maybe they allow you to produce a special nft once a month. Or global events in the Illuvium world can affect their production. Or maybe they can affect the illuvials that visit your land

[vapid bough]

Incentives, hmm... maybe... fuel revenue comes from every future Illuvium game ever!

[high sleet]

My concern is the disconnect between potential cost return basis of T1 outperforming the other tiers. But I suppose as long as elements make convertors function it should be decently balanced

[vapid bough]

just joking. But really the team is working hard on the backend to make land valuable in many ways.

[high sleet]

yeah I believe it for sure, im just the numbas guy tryna get my numbas 😛

[vapid bough]

We've got big brains like Johnny and Khaled on that. As well as other brilliant minds for them to bounce ideas off off. Then we'll have IZ Alpha and Betas to balance everything

[vapid bough]

I know. ONE DAY we'll give you a nice list o numbas. 🔢

[high sleet]

nah i meant for the community 😛 Gotta give them something to nibble on

[high sleet]

yessssss. Btw did you see kenobi today? (its amazing btw)

[vapid bough]

Kenobi?

[high sleet]

new star wars series

[vapid bough]

Ahhh... some day... I've literally been answering community messages and following up on backend answers from the team for complex questions since I woke up over 6 hours ago. Gotta go to a meeting now though. Catch you all soon!

[high sleet]

have fun, again cheers for all the help bro

[vapid bough]

Anytime. Ciao!

[trail brook]

hi

[onyx siren]

anyone know the original landsale starting price?

[onyx siren]

I mean the starting price before the price change

[umbral hull]

T1 was 0.5 eth. I dont remember if the others were also simply 25%

[onyx siren]

okay thanks!

[dry mango]

T1 0.5/T2 1.5/T3 5/T4 20

[devout hinge]

Thank you, i was also looking for this...

[glacial garnet]

I always tought and heard T5 auction was going to be before the normal sale so it serves as marketing, was this just non funded rumors? If it changed, what was the reasoning to have both together instead?

[queen folio]

I'm quite curious about this as well. I would've thought having the T5 auction prior to the T1-T4 sale would be not only a bit of marketing, but then also provide all of those buyers who DON'T win the T5 the chance to then buy T1-T4 if they decide they want to do that instead.

Or perhaps being one of the entities with the enough capital to bid in T5 auction means you also have enough capital to buy T1-T4 alongside bidding on T5. Sounds plausible as well, if you're truly a "whale" or firm with the funds for this sort of investment

[glacial garnet]

And i presume T5 can go for very high price so i can only imagine the headlines everywhere talking about this leading into the main sale

[vapid bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA-C-R3YdQ4

[hearty cradle]

having T5 auction for 3 days is actually good

[glacial garnet]

For sure but imagine it would have been this weeks end instead

Huge marketing imo, and no downside?

[spring jetty]

Down side is that land will be more expensive

[hearty cradle]

Wht kinda of marketing were you expecting?

[glacial garnet]

More expensive if the 3 days are with the normal sale? Whys that

[glacial garnet]

T5 is very special and i presume it will sell for a very high prices. If it was this week end i can see the media all covering this early next week leading up to the main sale, this would be great marketing imo.

Someone random see on a media page "Illuvium land sold for x$ even in this bear market" any headline of this kind brings attention and some people will want to learn more, explore the project and they see that the main sale of the best project ever is just around the corner.

[pure mason]

All this time waiting and the land sale still going to be on layer 1 with high gas fees. Sheesh.

[peak bough]

Dutch auction over 3 days, wat gasfees lol

[glacial garnet]

Idk why i was expecting this but im pretty sure ive read multiple time here that t5 auction was going to be before for marketing purpose and i tought it made so much sense. Just learned today its not the case and it was false rumors, just trying to find out what is happening here

[pure mason]

The actual selling process is still on layer 1. That’s what I mean

[peak bough]

yeah not sure why but they had a solid reason for it

[pure mason]

Sure they did

[harsh dew]

What are blueprint use for ?
Armour for Ranger.
What about Moz4rt skin ?

Is there different type of blueprint ?

[hearty cradle]

The giveaway was marketing is hype

[fair temple]

we never have enough hype!

[ornate obsidian]

Wondering everyone's best guess on price of T1 plot

[hearty cradle]

hmm

depends on the marketing in 6 days i guess

The giveaway spreads like wildfire

[ornate obsidian]

Hopimg not 2 eth lol

[hearty cradle]

eth is cheap

[rain tree]

When are we supposed to get access to illuvidex to go shopping for land plots before the sale? @vapid bough

[vapid bough]

As soon as possible. We actually had a "dress rehearsal" test sale scheduled for us to stress test the Illuvidex, that was supposed to have happened already, but issues with the Ethereum Ropsten testnet (that we use to test IlluviDex) is down currently. It's a larger issues on the Etherium blockchain currently that their devs are working to resolve. Doesn't affect the ETH mainnet that we all use for common L1 transactions, but it means that it halts our IlluviDex testing until it comes back online. That part is beyond our control.

[reef echo]

could that delay the landsale?

[rain tree]

Gotcha. Unfortunate, but thanks for the update.

[vapid bough]

I just found out about the basics of this ETH testnet issue a few hours ago, so I'm not sure of any larger impacts. Of course we will keep everyone updated if it will impact the Land sale.

[hearty cradle]

👀

[cyan dew]

No more landsale delays 🤣

[sleek geyser]

I'm reading the land article on medium, do I have to use a metemask wallet or is it any wallet that I have connected to my illuvium account fine.

[grim plover]

@whole spear did you guys end up adding 1500 people to beta a few days ago

[whole spear]

Not yet no

[full talon]

am i the only one who thinks 5% of all fuel revenue as share for the land owners is extremely low? who gets all the rest? ILV stakers? and why so much for them?

[prisma pike]

@whole spear I have read through the entire medium article and have 2 queries: (1) The land sale is a public sale with no WL required, correct? (2) From the medium article ..The resulting Illuvium Land NFT is placed in the user’s connected IMX wallet.. Please provide more info on this, using MM to do the purchase is clear, but what preparations do we need for the 'IMX wallet'??? Thanks.

[whole spear]

1. No WL correct, 2. Check out this guide made by the Infoluvial guys https://infoluvial.io/quickly-connecting-metamask-to-imx/?swcfpc=1

[oak ruin]

thats what crashed Eth prices so hard yesterday

[prisma pike]

Thanks, much appreciated ! 🙂

[hearty cradle]

*up to 5%

[analog inlet]

i disagree it "low" #🎮〕illuvium-zero = mobile mini game not an investment should not compete with staking or the main game Illuvium: overworld& autobattle

Also the landowner revenue is not passive like staking see this for more info #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Staking = official investment.

[lethal pebble]

Which has the higher degree of risk? Staking or land ownership?

[hearty cradle]

land

with staking you get the apr on the website + 95% ingame rev + tx fee + other rev by the IP

with land you get 5% ingame rev + bp
bp is uncertain

[vapid bough]

This is a great post for people to refer to.

[coral tree]

If it’s used for all future Illuvium games I’d say risk is close to the same… if Illuvium does well land and ILV could take off in price…. If Illuvium does not do well they will both suffer…. Seems pretty even to me which is why I plan to get some land with my stakes

That duck looks like it’s buying a lot of land…….

[stiff talon]

With regards to Tier 5 Land - will the owners have to get their own sponsorship or will there be a dedicated role for a sponsorship manager to assist the arenas to succeed?

[narrow gale]

Can Megacities be built with any players from the same guild, or does it have to be in one player's wallet specifically

[narrow gale]

I believe it's not 5% revdis and more like 5% of fuel sales

[tight kestrel]

hey do we need to create an imx account or something? or just buy it in metamask and thats all?

[hearty cradle]

Yes

revdis is all ingame rev + tx fee + other rev generated by the IP

thats why staking is a more predictable investment

ill edit it

[vapid bough]

They were intentionally designed for two different things.

Initiating rant sequence... All systems online... Activate... 3... 2... 1...

After Kieran proposed the idea for Illuvium Land and they decided to make a game out of it, Aaron had an interesting idea to combine the game economies of IZ and the main Illuvium game through Fuel (now extending to all future Illuvium games) That's where the idea of revenue rewards for Illuvium Land owners came from. (pretty sure this is the correct order of events - info is from a variety of AMAs and discord chat).

In a world where most companies consolidate revenue earning amongst a few elite executives, Illuvium created the ILV staking as a staking investment and governance token - with 100% of Illuvium DAO proceeds going to ILV token stakers through Revenue Distribution. Illuvium's tokenomics are unique and stand alone currently in the web 3 space. Much has been said on Illuvium tokenomics already. Read up in #💰〕token Medium, etc.

In a world where most NFTs are simply PFPs or have little to no utility, Illuvium: Zero was made to give Illuvium Land top-in-class utility. Now it has been developed into a fully fledged builder game for desktop and mobile, with top-in-class graphics. The benefits of land are clearly stated in the most recent Medium article 51 Illuvium Land. Link in #📣〕announcements
In short, Land owners get approximately 5% of Illuvium Universe Fuel Revenue by selling fuel they produce for ETH, by playing a fun play and earn game. Additionally Land owners can Scan for Illuvial Biodata, research this and discover Blueprint NFTs that can be used for crafting or sold for ETH. It will also have it's own speculative value for people who like to trade or speculate on NFTs.

The deeper you dig, the more intention and well thought out design you will find behind many of the things here. Not all, but many. Obviously, I'm biased. I always recommend to DYOR and make your own informed decisions.

[hearty cradle]

"approximately 5% of the total revenue generated from in-game purchases in Illuvium"

[vapid bough]

Mostly correct. I remember when that was printed. Most accurately would read something like approximately 5% of Illuvium Universe Fuel Revenue. I.e. all games in the Illuvium universe - including future games, use fuel as an integral part of the game economy - Landowners earn ETH by trading their fuel to a balancer pool. This is explained in the fuel section of the Illuvium Land article.

[hearty cradle]

i like the wordings in the IIP because it sounds more general. just in case there is other ingame revenue generated not by fuel

how many hours have you been awake lucius?

[vapid bough]

That's the thing - other non-revenue earnings go to ILV staking by design. So the wording needs to be very specific that Land revenue is a separate mechanism based strictly on the Fuel economy.

[vapid bough]

Too... many...

[hearty cradle]

nice

you are going to be so proud when it's done

[vapid bough]

Andrew be like... Lucius PLEASE REST. I said ok but then... I know there is a community to serve. So I'm here, about to pass out, but here lol.

[hearty cradle]

8 more days to grind

[vapid bough]

I am taking tomorrow off with friends and lots of rest.

[hearty cradle]

good call, well deserved

i see andrew is starting to ramp up the campaign

[vapid bough]

Yup - he has more coming

[hearty cradle]

finally something to get excited for

probably a good idea to pin just the land starting price

[narrow gale]

Will megacities be a guild venture?

[hearty cradle]

anyone can have it

[timber sapphire]

Just need to be fast enough

[agile sigil]

15 sILV2 enough for a tier 2?

[vapid bough]

Step by Step instructions on How to Buy Land:
https://medium.com/illuvium/57-how-to-buy-land-illuvidex-now-live-9b610e0fb682

Illuvium Land Explained article: https://illuvium.medium.com/51-land-sale-explained-8cbadfb6a6b5

Illuvium Land FAQ:
#💬〕general message

Content Creator articles on IMX / MetaMask:
#💬〕general message

Status on Eth testnet and IlluviDex:
#💬〕general message

New Land and Illuvium: Zero infographics:

[tight kestrel]

you can buy it even with 2 silv2
just wait 119 minutes and hope nobody buys it before you

[wind briar]

spooky

are we gonna be neighbors on land sm ?

[tight kestrel]

we need a pump in ILV

[empty path]

Ofc they did

[wind briar]

this is when the saudi princes buy land

[analog inlet]

thanks 😀

[coral tree]

Nice… I just bought this morning lol

[cyan dew]

Hypeeee

What about ilv

[coral tree]

Maybe we should just try to pump to $500 lol

[cyan dew]

Imagine

[little moon]

no pluming, it will be natural grow, after rev from land sale will be distributed.

[gaunt coral]

Dont pump anything. Purge the non believers

[unreal yew]

Guys one question, a Tier 3 land has 6 fuel sites and a 100% boost, against a Tier 1 land with 1 fuel site and 0% boost. Does that mean that, in theory/perfect conditions with everything built maximized etc, you will generate 12 times more fuel than in a Tier 1??

[little moon]

good question. 🙂

[little moon]

Yes.

[vast gate]

Theoretically yes.

[unreal yew]

Thanks for answering!
And then a T4, with 9 fuel sites, 300% boost, and maximum efficiency of 160% because of landmark, would mean 43 times more fuel than a T1?
That's pretty crazy

[vast gate]

No. It’s a 10% boost for the landmark. So it would be 110%

[unreal yew]

That is by default, but it can be higher up to 160%

[vast gate]

Right and a T1 or T2 can be 150%

[little moon]

Yeah it generally lines up with the increase in cost. I think I calculated that T2 is the most cost effective if you’re just looking for fuel production. I didn’t factor in landmarks though so that could be a significant boost for higher tiers especially if they are part of a mega city.

[vast gate]

Pick a row for your comparison. Therefore it would be a 10% increase in any case

[unreal yew]

Yeah you are right, I just noticed it

Now is time to make some numbers. With a crazy estimation of monthly revenue, the 5% of fuel total revenue reserved for land owners, and the maximum weight that each land will have in that ecosystem, we could make a rough translation into fair sale prices

[oak solstice]

Uhh max 150% to 160% isn't a 10% increase, it's a 6.6667% increase

[iron laurel]

At first I agreed with you especially considering the starting prices.
But the thing with land is you need to look at the fuel rewards as just a bonus. They are not the reason to buy land.
The following is not financial advice of course but just how I see it. There are three reasons to buy land. First, you will get fuel right at the get go and be able to hunt Illuvials right away. You will play for "free" basically. Second, blueprints could be huge. A popular, rare skin will be worth lots. Third, long-term value. If the Warwicks go on to build Illuvium to be a massive game studio and tons of people are playing some genre of the multitude of Illuvium games, well how much do you think your little plot of land will be worth 10 years from now?

In real life land is bought as a hedge against inflation with a promise of profit long term. Meanwhile you try to get the land doing something to pay the tax on it. So, Illuvium land is the same kind of thing.

It is definitely a risk. If the game collapses it will be worth nothing, the same is true for staking.

[vast gate]

It’s an additional 10%. So I guess you are correct when looking at fuel production. You will get 6.66% more fuel if buildings are at max efficiency.

[little moon]

it is a small bonus, better then nothing.

[oak solstice]

Yeah just to me makes landmarks less appealing in the long run

[unreal yew]

What I will try to do is an equivalence with ILV, because for me the question is: if you spend the same amount of money in ILV tokens than in a land plot, would you have the same revenue? Considering that land only receive revenue from fuel transactions and ILV tokens from everything else. Obviously the land NFT is a reserve of value and price may increase, but would be similar for ILV tokens. The blueprints are the main thing that can make a difference. But apparently they will be very rare and difficult to mint

[vast gate]

Yea definitely not huge especially compared to the land tier production boost.

[vast gate]

I agree. Doesn’t seem like a big perk to stretch to get a t3 or t4. But just my opinion

[little moon]

i have the same in my mind a week ago, but you miss the fact that you can use fuel, and go make more money.

[unreal yew]

Is a matter of revdis, fuel provide revdis in ETH once you sell it, ILV will provide revdis in ILV. But with both you can make more money

[iron laurel]

That's valid thinking. Of course, if there are many games and all require fuel those fuel rewards will be far more substantial in the future. Also add in the cost of buying fuel vs using your own to play which leads to revenue. Unfortunately we don't know an approximate travel fee yet.

I'm sitting down trying to crunch numbers but there are a lot of unknown variables.

I know I will get land, if for no other reason than because I want to play it. I am just trying to figure out what is the best way to make a profit. I am actually leaning towards 40% staking, 40% land and 20% Illuvitars but need to give it more thought.

[oak solstice]

T3s make sense if u r gonna go mega city route later on since it helps boost all the other lands. I was on the fence between t3 and t2 so unless t2s sellout then i will probably go Crystal Shores (goin for Slappin Blueprint haha) T2 and stake the rest of the money i got.

[vast gate]

Ahhh yes good point. I’m no whale though lol. I forget about the mega cities

[iron laurel]

THIS about the mega cities and T3. Which is why we need to see where those plots are. A T3 close to a border between regions with T1's surrounding it? Definitely worth looking at.

[oak solstice]

I would want T2s around it to stack the production boost. T2s are 3x the price of T1s but produce 4x.

[iron laurel]

Yup, that would be even better depending on your budget.:)

[little moon]

How people who will buy but dont want to play rent it? how they will find a good person for that? will be some place or is just random, mb discord?

[unreal yew]

In megacities the boost are stacked but they are not multiplied right? A megacity with a T3 doesn't mean the 4 plots with 100% boost or does it?

[analog inlet]

Johnny | Illuvium — 04/21/2022
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message
I would not recommend account sharing
ideally we will tie sharing/renting/etc in to all kinds of systems like friends, guilds, etc... but its not a priority right now

Polemos is developing a automated nft staking system and removing the manager role completely you can find out more in the white paper #899655780033261639 message

[thorny crater]

Just read the email about land sale.
First off. Dope 🤓
But second I still do not see anything about how I log into my land from my phone while not having to connect my wallet to my phone.

Any word on if wallet connect to phone is needed?

[unreal yew]

They said it will be needed if you want to play on the phone

[thorny crater]

Gross. Well I’m not buying then this was a major deal for me.

[little moon]

thank you.

[thorny crater]

You’re welcome

Apple got hacked last year, Microsoft got hacked last month.

May the odds be in your favor

[little moon]

now we need to buy ticket to Siberia and live without internet. I am sure no one care about average people like us ( i am concern to about this, but...) . They will sell your phone number to india, and you will receive phone cals about some scam, i think it is maximum what can happen.

[vapid bough]

The phone needs to be able to connect the game to the IMX wallet - this is where/how the nfts are stored and authorized for use in the game.

been a long time since I read this so confirming this with the team

You can just keep your game assets in the IMX wallet though. No need to store other non-illuvium valuables in that same wallet.

[iron laurel]

I'm sorry if you already answered this, the test with a Leger hooked to Metamask and then to IMX,how did that turn out?

(BTW,thanks for all the hard work on the land document 🙂)

[vapid bough]

Still waiting to hear back on that one.

Thanks for the kind words.

[iron laurel]

Thanks, I will keep an eye out for the results.

[vapid bough]

I will also update to include it in the FAQ pinned in #💬〕general

[iron laurel]

Perfect! Appreciate that, will make it easier for me to check for it. Have a good day off tomorrow. Rest up for next week 😂

[vapid bough]

Cheers - recharging and coming back soon.

[rugged jungle]

Does anyone know if I can claim sILV2 from my 12-month locked stakes and use it for land?

[solar topaz]

you can claim any pending rewards as silv2

see the radio box on the rewards page

[rugged jungle]

Yes, but can I then use them to buy land in the auction? Or do they lock also

[solar topaz]

no, they dont - thats the whole point of silv2: instant liquidity, less flexibility

[rugged jungle]

Thanks

[hushed kernel]

I play clash of clans all day! I will profit split any day with people who need someone to be active on their land nonstop getting fuel! I'm so ready for illuvium zero!!

[vapid bough]

The rental system will help things like this a lot. It will be built into the game and allow people to split profits. Further details TBA as it's developed.

[eager holly]

Tier 1 Land price started at 2 ETH or 12 sILV2, is that right?

I did not see it mentioned nowhere on the last article with all Land auction info

[vapid bough]

wdym? its at the beginning of the article. Then repeated in a later section

[whole spear]

SILV2 price is equal to ILV price in sale… so whatever ILV price is would determine that ratio you’re looking for but that will be done automatically

[hushed kernel]

Yeah I know we will figure it out later but I'm just hyped because I spam play clash of clans and then I've been high ranking in Teamfight Tactics for a long time now so this entire thing that this community does is perfect for what I want to do ^_^

[vapid bough]

That's nice to hear. We do our best to create various options for people to engage in the Illuvium Universe. It's really cool to see you already starting to find your way.

[hushed kernel]

I know an idea of where I wanna go but I gotta set up the pieces. Illuvium is the beginning of a whole new space in gaming and possibilities for anyone who want to enjoy what they do financially and/or leisure :D

[vapid bough]

That's many people's major issue right now in Illuvium... Do I buy more Land? or ILV to stake? or Illuvitars? Or save to play the game? So many options... Land sale knocking on the door...

[hushed kernel]

I mean there's infinite options in life too. People have to find and realize what they want to do with illuvium as a whole. If you want a solid investment into the future, buy more ILV and stake. If you want a flashy Sprite to show off to your friends, illuvitars it is! If you want to grind the game out and make that your remote job so you can spend more time at home, ready the stockpile of cash for the main game!

There will be more land sales in the future, you can always buy land later if you are truly unknown. You can't buy the time back. So take a breath, figure out what you want from your time in this amazing community, and just enjoy Illuvium!

[harsh acorn]

I'm most stoked for the main game, I'd love to have land to support my main game addiction that is why I want land mostly. Illuvitars will be cool as well.

[west orbit]

Anyone have the list of which illuvials are more common on the lands for blueprints?

[high sleet]

@vapid bough hey man with megacity plans. Will adjacent plots benefit or will they have to form a complete grid before activating a potential megacity?

[oak solstice]

It's on illuvium.io/land check the region map

[waxen vector]

Hi guys, during the land sale, are we going to have a real-time indicator showing the average price of a specific tier?

[oak ruin]

I'll make my own excel sheet

[waxen vector]

We might be able to see the prices on etherscan right?

[low geode]

https://tenor.com/view/two-weeks-happy-dance-gif-18982959

[opaque spindle]

WE ARE ALMOST THERE!

[unborn fjord]

What do we think the T1's will go for? Also, when is the map released so we can look over what lands we want to buy?

[hearty cradle]

Yes

[languid chasm]

How much are people setting aside for gas during land sale?

[lofty cape]

.5 ETH here

[languid chasm]

Ummm wtf… That’s massive

[lofty cape]

stacking T1's lol

Using the Kieran method

[west orbit]

Buying up the T1s next to the T4s lol

[lofty cape]

As T4 kept going higher it priced a lot out of range

[west orbit]

Gotta get those alpha blue prints!

[lofty cape]

with sILV2 should be able to pick up about 20-25 T1's

When we started this the vote was always no for mega cities

and land was FAR cheaper with the first sale going to be Nov of last year...

[worthy rose]

is it possible to bid higher than the current price in the dutch auction?

[little moon]

No, you just pay whatever price it’s at when you want to buy.

[worthy rose]

thx, I think I saw someone suggested that it was possible to go higher so I wanted to confirm

[wanton dagger]

set eth gas price to 300% 🙂

[placid finch]

guys need help im about to buy silv2 can you guide me where i can go to safely buy it?

[little moon]

The pool is on uniswap. You can locate it by inputting the sILV2 token address found in #🔗〕helpful-links

[placid finch]

is it only on uniswap and is this the address 0x7E77dCb127F99ECe88230a64Db8d595F31F1b068

[tranquil python]

This vídeo helped me. Hope it works for you:

https://youtu.be/_nWIqrErcZc

[placid finch]

can you just confirm if this address is correct? 0x7E77dCb127F99ECe88230a64Db8d595F31F1b068

[little moon]

Looks right to me.

[placid finch]

Ok thanks

[copper swan]

Any idea how much can you make from t1 land monthly?

[placid finch]

It gives me a trade at your own risk warning

How do I confirm the deep liquidity?

[little moon]

Just set your slippage low. If the liquidity on the pool is low it would indicate that you would have high slippage.

[empty path]

Rekt once again

[placid finch]

1.9m liquidity is it correct?

[little moon]

At least you don’t own axies 🤷

[placid finch]

Just making sure before I splurge my money to many hacks these days

[boreal oxide]

Can you use coinbase wallet to purchase on the illuvidex to buy land or is it just metamask?

[placid finch]

It’s always better to buy dumb and sell smart

[little moon]

Only metamask from what I’ve heard. You can always interface with your existing wallet by restoring into metamask with your seed phrase.

[boreal oxide]

Thanks look like I’m going to need to get a metamask 🙂

[arctic oriole]

is the common belief that land prices will drop immensely? or is it believed that they will be bought up near their start prices?

[quick flower]

I don't think anyone knows what anyone is planning or thinking. Wait till that day and see how it goes.

[buoyant cave]

Are the land transferable between wallets? Why I’m asking is because my eth is on ledger but obviously ledger is not able to connect to MetaMask mobile. Therefore I won’t be able to play IZ on mobile.

[hearty cradle]

usually you dnt need the wallet on mobile, you connect the wallet to the game account on the website

idk how ILV is going to implement it

[buoyant cave]

Hmm, seems likely I need to transfer my eth from ledger to MM. Thanks for your reply.

[rose maple]

What do people think T4 land will go for?

[turbid gust]

Hard to say, it's around 300k ppl who following Twitter

[soft spindle]

My personal opinion is that T4 will drop to about 25% of starting price, so 20 ETH. This is purely based on my assumption that there will be higher demand for lower tiers.

[turbid gust]

Ye floor price 2eth it's more pospolity/regular for investors than 80 Eth

[soft spindle]

Lots of people are also going for multiple lower tiers. So 4 x tier 1, instead of 1 x tier 3 for example

[rose maple]

Good answers, thanks.

[celest narwhal]

There are less T4 than T1

[simple juniper]

i have a feeelings its around 25%

[coarse steppe]

Is it still the case that land owners will get 5% of the total fuel revenue? I’m double checking since the new medium article on the land sale didn’t mention that and so wanted make sure that nothing has changed

[simple juniper]

nothing has changed regarding that

[celest narwhal]

Yes, but you need to wait the beta. For the Alfa you won’t sell fuel

[coarse steppe]

Thanks for confirming. Also, is it expected that land owners will generate 5% of the total fuel consumed - or is the total fuel supply completely independent?

[celest narwhal]

When 1 fuel is sell to the pool, Illuvium will mint other 19 token so 1/20 of the total fuel -> 5% of the fuel revenue.

[coarse steppe]

Awesome - thanks!

[mystic umbra]

I really hope I have the opportunity to get at least one T1 🙏

[celest narwhal]

If there won’t be some kind of troll that the first day will take all the T1 at 2 eth causing FOMO the T1 will be probably go under the 0,5 eth that the community put for the first auction price proposal. That it’s the price I will wait and the video I seen about price prediction are around 0,8 - 0,4 eth for the T1 depending of the region.

[austere whale]

Ser can we be friends, I will be buying land and I also played alot of coc..I guess I might need you 😉

[long tendon]

sorry just in a call @fathom ridge

[ivory fjord]

I understand the fuel generated from lands will be reset once the Overworld game launches. But will the structures we built or lets just say the whole land reset to nothingness ??

[cyan dew]

Yes everything. But you can keep all the blueprints.

[solemn remnant]

which region u guys are looking? I haven't seen any researches on the region yet, eg which element and illuvial blueprint could worth more?

[flint frigate]

hi guys! what do you think an average price for tier 3 lands gonna be?

[celest narwhal]

That is a big question mark. Because the overworld isn’t open and we don’t know where the illuvial will be for sure. And a % of the chance to have a blueprints of a specific illuvial it’s about the region it’s in habitat. And for now I think every land is equally potentially fine for the blueprint. After the gameplay and the illuvial will be sold and trade there will be more understand about which one it’s the most loved and which skins are the more valuable. But for now it’s a shot in the dark. Many will go for the crystal shore bc we don’t know nothing about illuvial of that region and they think will be very beautiful and loved. Or alcyone shore because the water illuvial (this one ) it’s from there.

[solemn remnant]

haha I see, 100% agree beautiful skin/illuvial probably value more😋

[hearty cradle]

i go with my favourite illuvials,
crimson waste (ramphry) and halycon sea (atlas)

[spring jetty]

what about flappin, he is in crystal shore

[hearty cradle]

stabin !
yea that too

[spring jetty]

i think squizz is probably in Labyrinth

i really wanna know where that nine tail is located

[hearty cradle]

who is squizz

[empty path]

Ngmi

[little moon]

wow

[celest narwhal]

Ok where do I find fennec fox? I want that!

[spring jetty]

this fox reminds me of Naruto

[fair temple]

Fennec is a dust illuvial... i feel like in the lower region of labyrinth where the orange stuff is, you would be able to find it. But also crimson waste with the everlasting sandstorms ^^

[spring jetty]

so sad his nine tail died

[celest narwhal]

So we don’t know for sure where this illuvial will be

[fair temple]

We have no clue 😎

[spring jetty]

but his primary affinity is air, besides affinity doesnt always determine where an Illuvial is located

we have Dash which is water and water/fire at later stages but he is located in Taiga Boreal which is a Icy/air focused region

[cyan dew]

True

[fair temple]

Isnt there a huge steam vent in taiga boreal? @.@ so it makes sense to me

[vapid bough]

Currently is listed as needing to be a 2x2 or 3x3 to be considered as a mega-city. Other shapes may be considered in the future, but for now that's where it's at.

[spring jetty]

does it have to be a square or can i have 4 land forming a weird shape or a line

[spring jetty]

interesting....... then we need to find a place of lighting that will be where suqizz is. i think i saw something like that in the land video with Andrew

[fair temple]

Magnopass under crimson waste is electrical ^^

[spring jetty]

hmm but i dont wanna buy in crimson waste, too competitive

[fair temple]

With the electrified giant luminescent hazelnuts :)

[spring jetty]

that could be where that red panda is lol he is fire/air as well

[fair temple]

yeah, could be... I'm not sure how things will work out. I wouldn't expect him there tbh... too harsh of a place to be 😄

[spring jetty]

i wish they will release some sort of illuvialdex for where all the illuvials are located before land sale lol

[high sleet]

Awesome cheers bro I appreciate it

[vapid bough]

2x2 or 3x3 implies it would be a square

This could change in the future, but for now this is the main design being considered for this feature - per Johnny

[spark ruin]

At what time does it start?

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-i-love-pizza-food-coma-eating-pizza-binge-eating-gif-23848243

[vapid bough]

See 📌

[hushed kernel]

Of course :D

[thin wolf]

I am getting a feeling I don't have enough Silv🤔Market might giga nuke next week so I will wait and see

[void raft]

Hi, when selling fuel to the balancer, will we need to pay gas fees for that?

[vapid bough]

no, that will be on L2

[void raft]

Will I be able to own for example 1xT1 and on the same account 1-3xT0?

[dreamy current]

2 june 13h UTC

[grim plover]

are these real?

[spring jetty]

of course

[grim plover]

oh bet whered you find that picture

[hearty cradle]

it was a live footage

[grim plover]

from where

[hearty cradle]

leaf village

[spring jetty]

infoluvial

[static phoenix]

Can we only have blueprints of the same tier as the land, or can we get a Tier 5 blueprint on a tier 1 land for example ?

[hearty cradle]

no, yes

You need to complete the research for higher tiers by discovering the lower tiers

@vapid bough ☕

guys lucius is your go to guy for the land sale

[vapid bough]

Blueprint is not directly affected by land tier

[static phoenix]

Ok thanks

I’m still on the fence if I buy two T1 or one T2…

[umbral hull]

Is there any advantage of a higher tier for blueprints? Or are two T1s literally better than one T4 as far as blueprints go?

[static phoenix]

Good question

[vapid bough]

It's more how you build the land(s) and how often you decide to spend fuel to research biodata for a blueprint, which has a chance to fail

[spring jetty]

fuel or element?

[umbral hull]

And I know that T4 will have way more fuel. But if the frequency of scans is very limited, then a T4 would equal a T1 anyway (still strictly talking blueprints here)

(Assuming one decides to prioritize scanning over other things)

[vapid bough]

Maybe both? I'd need to go back and check the documentation tbh.

You guys are getting quite technical (which is cool you're so interested), however I don't have specifics on this. You'd need to check with people like Johnny or Nick - but also know that some things for IZ are still a work in progress and don't have defined numbers.

[spring jetty]

pretty sure Johnny or Kieran said element, fuel is only used in over world. but i guess things could change

[vapid bough]

For sure fuel is used to construct some advanced structures in IZ also. This is clarified in the article. Other uses check with them.

[static phoenix]

Yes that’s what has been said, fuel is also used for some buildings

[umbral hull]

Okay ty. My understanding is that multiple lower tiers will be more efficient that fewer higher tiers for blueprints. But I think it'd be weird if one-to-one there is literally no advantage to having a higher tier in the blueprint game haha. But thanks for the quick responses!

[vapid bough]

The obvious advantage is that higher tier Land generates more fuel, which means you could potentially spend more fuel to scan more frequently

[lapis ledge]

@vapid bough Can Elements be traded among players in the Illuvidex?

[umbral hull]

Absolutely. Unless it's rate limited.

[vapid bough]

Not on the illuviDex. There will be in in-game marketplace in IZ that players can build.

[umbral hull]

And of course, a scan costs less % of your total fuel income, so you wouldn't mind doing it more.

[rancid lion]

TBH people are getting technical because a lot of people are looking to drop a lot of money on this, and it's hard to commit to investing/spending when we don't have specifics. If we end up buying lands a certain way (like buying a single high tier) and then mechanics come out such that we wish we had instead bought lower tier ones it'll be rather obnoxious.

[lapis ledge]

Oo does this mean that Elements or any in-game resources can be traded within this in-game marketplace for ETH?

[vapid bough]

No - fuel only can be sold to the balancer pool for ETH

[umbral hull]

Indeed. And I do feel like that blueprints aren't THAT technical of a question. We already know the fuel site and production boost differences for the higher tiers. We just don't know the blueprint differences.

[vapid bough]

This will feel more clear in the in game ui

[polar stag]

yoo, waddap everyone. Since every land has a specific coordinate does that mean I might have to negotiate with players who have adjacent lands? or doesn't matter which one I buy I can expend either way?

[vapid bough]

That's understandable. It's more that IZ will undergo a lot of testing, balancing and changes during the Alpha version of the game that goes live 4 weeks after land sale. It's only then we are able to really dial it in and give players concrete numbers for certain things.

[umbral hull]

If/when they implement megacities, you will need to negotiate with them if you want to create one. Location will matter for that.

[vapid bough]

Or plan in advance to buy these plots during the actual landsale

You'll be able to favorite lands on the illuvidex when it goes live to refer to later during sale.

[umbral hull]

Exactly. Probably easiest to buy em up first (if you have the cash monay)

[polar stag]

ok, so if I were to plan buying 5 plots of land I should buy the ones that are close adjacent... uff xD thats gonna be hard

[umbral hull]

Yep it will be hard. And for mega cities, you'll want a batch of 4 (2x2) or 9 (3x3)

[vapid bough]

Not sure what you mean by blueprint differences. We established that tier of land does not directly impact blueprints.

[glacial frigate]

to buy the land during the auction i BOTH need to have metamask eth wallet and imx wallet correct?

[polar stag]

I'm not being able to picture this in my head tho! If we're looking at a spot with T4 lands the adjacent ones are also T4? or random?

[vapid bough]

Yes, this is easy to do the IMX parts directly on the illuvidex.

[vapid bough]

Can be random

[umbral hull]

I understand it doesnt affect blueprints in terms of quality. But I'm wondering in terms of odds and/or quantity output. Like if each land gets 1 scan per day, or if a T4 can scan like crazy bc it has enough fuel, you know?

[glacial frigate]

ok. I have the eth wallet, are you saying i dont have to do anything in advance for the IMX wallet? thanks in advance.

[umbral hull]

Random. You'll see on the map. Watch the recent illuvium land video on youtube. They show pictures of the regions, but in between, they show the illuvidex. You'll see the general idea.

[queen folio]

Understandable-- I definitely feel that too. Another thing to consider is that no one needs to commit to buying their land during this first sale. Depending on your risk tolerance, if you feel like you don't have enough information on all of the mechanics, you don't need to purchase right now. Purchase when you feel like you've gathered all of the information you need.

In that sense, one could choose not to purchase land during this first sale... obtain the information they need... and then aim to purchase either on secondary markets from players who have purchased during the first sale or wait until the 2nd official Illuvium: Zero land sale.

Where the prices will be in each of those cases... one can only speculate, really.

[umbral hull]

This is what I've been telling people all week lol. But I do think this blueprint info is a little more basic/core to the land.

[hearty cradle]

guys it's just 80 eth

[umbral hull]

Y u assume I no want T5?

[hearty cradle]

ohh okay

[umbral hull]

I no poor.

[hearty cradle]

pardon me ser

[vapid bough]

Correct

[polar stag]

cool! was it posted to Illuvium clips channel?

[hearty cradle]

are you looking for a loyal scholar?

[umbral hull]

Just the main illuvium youtube videos

[vapid bough]

@cyan bone can you confirm?

[umbral hull]

Lol not actually getting t5 😆 but I'm sure that as a scholar, you'll make some whale very happy one day.

[spring jetty]

i too am a loyal scholar wanna be ser

[hearty cradle]

dude

he is my whale

you can have syntha

[vapid bough]

We only have landowners and renters. No scholars around here 😉

[spring jetty]

😂 we can share them together

[hearty cradle]

kinky

ill do monday and friday

[umbral hull]

I prefer "Peon"

[spring jetty]

a better way to do this, we split them by 12 hours

[hearty cradle]

Work work

https://tenor.com/view/peon-wood-cutting-warcraft3-working-orc-warcraft3reforged-gif-20426329

[umbral hull]

YES

[hearty cradle]

Yessss

Ready to work

[umbral hull]

"Job's done."

[spring jetty]

Who is your daddy?
Whales

[umbral hull]

I feel like it's about time for a landowner-renter guild to be created to start connecting people.

[spring jetty]

i think polemos has some connections

[hearty cradle]

you just described polemos

[spring jetty]

but i havent seen any details

[umbral hull]

Ah ok ty

[hearty cradle]

Sounds like a good idea to stake land to polemos

i wonder if they have a job opening

i gotta update my resume

damn bear market

[spark ruin]

so, what is the region with the best illuvions?

[umbral hull]

They all have good illuvials. And for the land sale, currently, your land region doesnt determine which you catch, only the blueprints for skins.

[spark ruin]

yeah but the blueprints of the best illuvions will be worth more

[umbral hull]

We'll see. Maybe it's just the coolest-looking ones.

[umbral hull]

Or maybe just the rarest blueprints, meaning the ones who got lucky and no one else has them.

[spark ruin]

so we wont have a list of the illuvions of each region before the sale?

[quick flower]

Cool is subjective. Also, they haven't even released all Illuvials, the cool ones may not even existed yet

[celest narwhal]

We have like 3 illuvial certain for each region. But they don’t disclose much information

[spark ruin]

where can i check that?

also where can i check the terrain of each region? that is a big decision point to

[celest narwhal]

I remember I see a video about it made by people of the community.

[celest narwhal]

Did you watch the video about the region done a couple days ago?

[spark ruin]

yes

[celest narwhal]

Than what information more do you search?

[spark ruin]

i did alot of search and i saw some diferent terrains but im not sure about witch ones are from what region

the dirt one is crimson waste i think

snow Taiga Boreal?

just found a imagine about it
https://mobile.twitter.com/infoluvial/status/1528187669758775296/photo/1

The Infoluvial (@infoluvial)

Check out the environment textures for each region in @illuviumio Zero!

Which region will you get, Ranger?

$ILV #Illuvium #Infoluvial

Twitter · May 22, 2022, 1:35 AM

[vagrant elm]

Three questions:

1. Do we know if the plots sold in land sale 1 are all adjacent or if they are randomly scattered across each region?
2. Do we know if the batches are sorted by adjacent plots or at least same regions or do they consist of plots randomly scattered through all regions?
3. We will be able to see the whole land map with all the plots in advance, right? To identify possible adjacent plots of a certain tier.

[celest narwhal]

1- yes we know (in illuvidex there will be the map)
2- no info about the order of the land in auction. Probably random for different regions.
3 - yes in the illuvidex map

[little wagon]

Isn’t this picture wrong?? The first should be element landmark and the second fuel landmark??

[empty path]

You just made me try to clean my screen

[little wagon]

Lmao hahaha

[vagrant elm]

Thx for the answers to 2 and 3! My first question was probably a bit unclear. I meant if we already know right now whether land in land sale 1 will be one adjacent fifth of each region (like one of 5 sectors). Or if the plots will be scattered over the whole region making it harder to buy adjacent plot of lands.

[little wagon]

I live in a desert, this is clean for me 😂🤣

Called ‘Crimson Waste’ 😉

[celest narwhal]

Some will be, some won’t bc there are 4 other auction in the future. The land are scattered like small island

[vagrant elm]

Ok thx 👍

[little wagon]

But still, besides the dust and leftover sneezes,.... the picture is wrong isn’t it?

[heady dew]

l-leftover sneeze?

[hearty cradle]

how many more days

[quasi canyon]

So i know each region has certain illuvials, but is that just increased chance? Can you still get any illuvial/blueprint from any land? Is that known?

[empty path]

@brisk plume might know

[hearty cradle]

yes, yes, yes

[lapis ledge]

Yes, you can get BPs for Illuvials from other regions as well. It's called cross-discovery iirc, but the chances of that happening is like so much lower. No number yet though.

[hearty cradle]

have you seen him

[static phoenix]

Will we be able to play zero on iOS ?

[hearty cradle]

yes

[thin wolf]

testing going on ropsten 4 days ago.

Seems like the miner that made all contract interaction impossible is done,ropsten should be ok now

[calm trout]

we already have a list for knowing what types of illuvails to find on what areas so we can plan our desired land a bit better in terms of "farming" skin blueprints?

[hearty cradle]

just need a tweet to send us to the mooooooon

oh yeaaaaaa

[empty path]

There he is

[hearty cradle]

4 meaningless sleeps

Wahooooooo

no will not touch that stuff again

bad trip
mixing stuffs

[empty path]

👀

[hearty cradle]

they should put a warning lol

synth will get you out of body exp

[empty path]

Guys. No.

[hearty cradle]

yea bad syntha

i didnt know wht they gave me man

i can see my body on the floor

[empty path]

This is not the place to discuss them

DM me

[thin wolf]

I guess there are mushrooms in IZ so it is kinda relevant

[empty path]

I don't think we have them in IZ

[hearty cradle]

ketamine + thc is bad

[thin wolf]

I think you are right.

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/daddys-home2-daddys-home2gifs-stop-it-stop-that-i-mean-it-gif-9694318

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[hearty cradle]

it's good for sales pitch tho

wow

no wonder thoses horses look happy

once i drove home

walked to bed

Slept well

Woke next morning my car was wrecked

[thin wolf]

It disrupts the neurotransmitter (brain chemical) glutamate. Glutamate is involved with learning, memory, emotion, and pain recognition

[hearty cradle]

cant figure out what happened tbh

[thin wolf]

I had to google it

[hearty cradle]

what is

[thin wolf]

Ketamine

[hearty cradle]

nice, sometimes you dnt want new memories

[narrow gale]

What happens to the fuel extract we extract from our land?

[potent dock]

You can sell it through an ETH/Fuel LP when you withdraw it from your land

(i.e. you sell it for ETH)

You can also use it on certain things within IL:Z, I believe the plan is for top tier structures to use a little bit of Fuel

[narrow gale]

But I can't use it directly in the main game?

[hearty cradle]

ketamine?

[potent dock]

The team has talked about settings things up in a way where you basically just withdraw it to your wallet.

Behind the scenes, it has to pass through the ETH/Fuel LP for technical reasons, but in terms of UX, you'll basically just withdraw it to your wallet.

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-animal-abuse-gif-5260251

K Hole was a thing

[vapid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-steve-carrell-what-the-hell-is-happening-confused-gif-16458249

[hearty cradle]

Usual AA

[undone phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/is-this-a-trap-confused-thinking-fry-trap-gif-17141006

[proud crescent]

Hey guys, when they say certain affinities are more likely to pass through certain land regions, do we have a list of which affinities are more likely for which regions?

[iron laurel]

You weren't supposed to be here today... 😂

[potent dock]

https://www.illuvium.io/land There's an interactive map if you scroll down a page that gives some examples of what affinities are more common in each region

I don't believe a full list of all Illuvials exists though

[proud crescent]

Thank you!! 🙏

[iron laurel]

I tried looking up the locations and seeing the three Illuvials listed and what affinity they are. So Halycon Sea seems to be Water - that is logical. Crimson Waste, Fire. Brightland Steppes, Nature (Not sure who Headi is, my latest guess is the Komodo Dragon lol). It gets more tricky with the others though Abyssal Basin though as the three listed are water, earth and nature. Taiga Boreal has Air and Water, Shardbluff Earth and Fire, Crystal Shores, Water, nature, earth.

Now, long ago there was a list and it said Halycon sea was mostly water, Crimson Waste- fire, Shardbluff - Earth, Brighland Steppes - Nature, Abyssal Basin -water, Taiga Boreal - Air and I never did find anything for crystal shores.

[proud crescent]

Oh awesome, thank you! It seems like Water and Earth is pretty well represented

[iron laurel]

Yes. Where it gets interesting is if you look at the Illuvials further up. For example, I had asked before the regional map release where I would find the Fern line. Kieran answered and said Brightland Steppes and Blazenite sometimes in Crimson Waste. Of course because he is Nature and Fire

[proud crescent]

Yeah I’m wondering if there will be anyone value differences in the blueprints acquired from different regions. Like will Crimson Waste and Halcyon Sea be more valuable since people tend to like red and blue? Will Crystal Shores give us blueprints for shiny rainbow skins? Idk

[fair temple]

#💥〕leaks-discussion message

As close as you get. WIP and has inaccuracies. Infoluvial got a more accurate illuviary based on that ^^

[potent dock]

True, but some of the regions are a bit unclear on which affinities or individual Illuvials will come from them.

I'll prolly go Brightland or Basin, I like nature a lot

[spark ruin]

there are 2 regions that they didnt show the terrain, will they show it?

[little moon]

i will advise you to watch the interview about land, or read medium content about them.

[whole spear]

My fave gif

[low geode]

https://tenor.com/view/two-weeks-happy-dance-gif-18982959

[soft spindle]

Why on earth is SILV2 dumping? Such a great entry point now.

[little moon]

all market crashing, and those who choose to take silv2 as rewards just have weak hands.

[rose maple]

@hearty cradle rugged us.

[simple estuary]

Bought another ETH worth of sILV2…

how many you think I need for Tier 3?

[little moon]

please buy 4 or 2 🙂

[fervent vale]

Are land NFTs going to be immediately able to be sold/bought on secondary market like opensea after the auctions?

[little moon]

yes

[fervent vale]

Is there any sort of “reveal” later or will you immediately know everything about your land at time of purchase?

[simple estuary]

why? lol

[leaden bay]

you will know where it's at on the map and the tier, but not the types of fuel or elements

[simple estuary]

You want them all? 😆

I have 35 x sILV2… hoping with the number of plots available I’ll sneak in

[spring jetty]

whales are exiting, we have a pretty good chance to get some cheap lands

fingers crossed guys

[simple estuary]

June 2, 13:00 UTC?

[little moon]

i dont have 35, this why i am asking you 🙂

[spring jetty]

i doubt you can get a t4 with 30ish silv2 lol

t3 is very possible in this market

[simple estuary]

Agreed, I’m happy with T3

[spring jetty]

but whales can still reenter, still a few days away from the land sale. anything is possible

[simple estuary]

Yep… I was thinking with the market being as it is currently, there might be a chance to snipe post-sale on an open market

[rose maple]

All the whales will be watching the land sale.

[spring jetty]

we are in extreme fear right now

i hope everyone who believe in ILV will stay strong

[simple estuary]

I hope they don’t and I’ll keep buying at a premium

[soft spindle]

Nope….. silv2 dumped 10% while ETH and ILV are both up

[iron laurel]

I've been thinking along the same lines. Like, will someone prefer a Ramphyre skin over Makita?

But we also don't know all the Illuvials yet so the future ones might be even better. It's hard to say.🤔

[lofty bramble]

Crazy - 4 days out from landsale and sILV is trading under 50% of ILV. What is going on

[rose maple]

https://tenor.com/view/rod-serling-twilight-zone-weird-coincidence-gif-13478474

[proud crescent]

The skins you can make through blueprints - they are skins FOR your Ranger that has the aesthetic of the common illuvials right?

If that’s the case I feel like Halcyon Sea would be the best. Atlas, Rypter and Alphie all have good skin potential

[little moon]

So anyone else think as well that tier 2-4 land will go for 35% of start price (45% for tier 1) because of the fear in the market. And because we will not be able to start making Roi till the launch of the game which could be in August or later ?? or just me hoping 😅

[stoic plank]

i think it will def go around that maybe lower...

price drops to 50% in 30 min 🙂 i suspect most will sell between 60-90 min 🙂 if u FOMO u deserve the huge lose you will have...

[spring jetty]

only 4 days until land sale, we are still missing some videos from the marketing team

[mystic umbra]

I shall not fomo brothers but I better get so damn land

[spring jetty]

another whale just exited

sold 800 silv2

man people cant even wait another 4 days

this market is causing so much panic and fear

[solemn remnant]

yea I was expecting silv2 to be at least 80% ilv now………

[spring jetty]

the thing is the number of holders of silv2 keeps increasing

[prisma pelican]

In a way it is a good thing? More people are able to join ILV

[prisma pelican]

How have you been? Has ur strategy for land changed?

[spring jetty]

small holders are increasing, which means more competition in buying t1

[prisma pelican]

U want to buy t1s?

[spring jetty]

i have no plan at this point just gonna wait and see

i will buy t1 but will not focus on t1, i prefer higher tiers

[prisma pelican]

Okay sounds like a great plan and yep after the land doc higher tiers seem more attractive

[wise widget]

Not sure t1's will get down to 50% which is where I'll need it to get to. Will have to use my sILV2 to buy fuel in the game instead

[prisma pelican]

Yep 👍 so many uses for silv2

[wise widget]

It's brilliant hey. Might even grab an illuvitar too 👍

[prisma pelican]

My plan too 😍

[spring jetty]

at this point i doubt illuvitar will make much of an impact

[prisma pelican]

On revdis?

[spring jetty]

land sale cant even get people hyped up and pump silv2

with 13k silv2 left in the pool, i dont even know if we can get any rev dis

people aren't gonna buy anything with eth before silv2 is all gone

[lofty bramble]

There's only like 250k sILV2 which is nowhere near enough to cover landsale unless all plots sell for veeeery low

[wise widget]

The sale will do what it's going to do & we'll get what we get when we get it. This project is a long term play for most people & we've got another 4 land sales to come too

[spring jetty]

at this rate we might actually see some plot sell at extremely low price

[prisma pelican]

The short term sentiment in crypto is so real