🎮〕illuvium-zero

[maiden wasp]

Wouldn't expect gwei to be more than usual, won't be a gas war

[coral tree]

Maybe 80-100 in the first day, 30-50 Gwei in the second day. I don’t think it will really matter what tier unless tier 1 are selling for full price

[crystal wave]

do anyone have the pic for overview of the map

[summer salmon]

Fuel generation of lands will start inmediatly after the sale?

[floral locust]

playable and generating fuel 2-4 weeks after sale, but fuel and all building progress will be reset when main game launches. only keep any blueprints you find

[steady crypt]

@hearty cradle sorry for bothering you what do u mean by it is a builders game.

[hearty cradle]

have you played clash of clan, simpson tapped out, farmville?

[crystal wave]

do anybody have the worl map pic

[hearty cradle]

Its on the ilv website

[crystal wave]

thx

[wide sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/when-wen-hbb-heartbreak-bear-bear-gif-23571768

[umbral hull]

just to clarify, there are two games. the builder game is illuvium zero, which is how you manage your land. the main game is not a builder game

[ancient matrix]

Just wanna let you know if you didnt know 😁

[vapid bough]

Official website > exchange > land and you can see the new land page with interactive map that the team just updated

[crystal wave]

i found it

thx ,really nice map

[hearty cradle]

nice color

[hearty cradle]

thats an old doc

[ancient matrix]

true it is the first ever doc 😅

i didn't want to mislead anyone with this, just to give an idea of what it might look like

[potent forge]

How does the land sale in combination with sILV2 work - can i pay with both?

[empty path]

You can use ETH or sILV2 during the land sale

T5 is ETH only

[potent forge]

yeah got that. but i can only use one of the 2 right? if i own like 4 sILV - i need to get more to have a 2 eth value ?

its just that my silv were worth more eth once i bought them ^^

[empty path]

You can't combine them. Remember this is an Dutch Auction and you should not insta buy for 2 ETH

[potent forge]

true, but it depends on the demand in the end

[vapid bough]

As Fraggy stated, each purchase must use only a single token, ETH or sILV2.

[potent forge]

got it, than i need to get more silv ^^

[empty path]

You know you need sILV2 now right?

[potent forge]

yeah ^^ ofc

[small star]

But keep some eth for the gaz fee if you pay in silv2

[potent forge]

😉 yeah gas wars coming ^^

[empty path]

Nah

[potent forge]

we will see - i hope not.

and the sILV2 price will be the same as the ILV price or the actual price on uni?

[nimble sundial]

How much will land be for tier 1

[empty path]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[static phoenix]

What’s the production boost for landmarks ?

[static phoenix]

Starting at 2ETH and lower

[potent forge]

sILV2 price is pegged to the ILV price right?

[nimble sundial]

When does the sale start

[static phoenix]

June 2nd

[cyan dew]

When closed beta access?

Didn't got my email yet

[empty path]

By the end of the week

[cyan dew]

Alright

[amber narwhal]

hope its before the weekend 😛

[potent forge]

yeah!

[little moon]

Could it be a mistake that Goliant and Scarabok are in different regions on the land map?

[paper flame]

Did that Solar guy get banned? I don't see him talking sh and being rude anymore.

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-weird-clapping-evil-laugh-gif-9962946

[abstract crown]

Careful he’s always watching 👀

How much gas do you think it will be for each land purchase? Rough guesses?

[paper flame]

It's going to depend on the time of day. Check gas tracking maps. Early mornings are usually best.

[analog inlet]

You wish.... lol did i mention i have absolutely no interest in buying land

[pure cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-back-gif-8275005

[paper flame]

Lol I'm aware. Glad you're still here!

[little moon]

Well....then don't. 🤷‍♂️

[analog inlet]

i never left...

👀 always watching ..i may be too busy eating popcorn to respond at times

[paper flame]

Land will be more profitable than revdis. Just so you know. Take care.

[little moon]

Im not sure that is true tbh...

[analog inlet]

❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌

[abstract crown]

Yeah not sure about that either, it might just if it’s rly sought after. But from passive income I’m not so sure. Depends what else they have planned with the land. Aaron hints at it being more useful in the future so I’m getting a little bit anyway

[fair temple]

@ancient matrix
T4, 9 fuel sites 400% production, +X% efficiency -> 3600%+.
Making 3600% -> 4800% you would need the fuel sites' efficiency to be 33% higher. So 9 x 1.33 x400% would actually add up to 4800% 🙂

[primal widget]

#💥〕leaks-discussion message

so it is kinda getting bigger by a factor of 3, just from t1 to t2 its 4x

[fair temple]

Only for Fuel. The element production is lower than 4x from T1 to T2

[primal widget]

yea, i guess fuel is the main earning aspect anyway right?

[fair temple]

But elements are used for scanning as well 🙂 So if you only want elements for scanning then T1s could be the better way potentialy

[primal widget]

let me post this here again
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814313779696238642/976206715391467580/Screenshot_2022-05-17_203241.jpg

yeah elements only get a +3 instead of a *3 in sites, thats a huge difference

[fair temple]

the element production gets a x2.667 boost from T1 to T2.

[ancient matrix]

The land mark will boost the production by 33%
The Fuel Landmark will correlate to one of the 3 types of Fuel. The Fuel Landmarks will boost production of the Fuel Sites it correlates to on that plot of land and will also increase the efficiency of conversion to that Fuel.
This is what I got

And 36 × 133% = 48

[vivid cipher]

Not as much increase in element production shouldn’t be a problem. Elements are used in #🎮〕illuvium-zero to build and upgrade and produce fuel. It’s not gonna be used in a public liquidity pool for use in the overworld. Bigger increases in fuel means there’s gonna be excess fuel for #🎮〕illuvium-zero players to sell.

[soft spindle]

Fuel will come nowhere close to revdis imo. Blueprints are going to be a gamble. The only way I see Land being more profitable is in 2-3 years when further games are built increasing either

1. Demand of fuel, increasing the potential passive income
2. Addition of further resource production and income generating opportunities for existing land
3. Illuvium brand grows to where owning Land is a status grab in the metaverse
4. Blueprints take off like skins in Fortnight and suddenly people are paying crazy amounts for different ones

The thing with all those above is I don’t see any of them happening without an increase to revdis that will be better than or at least equal to the income from Land. Therefore, imo, Revdis is the play if you are in this for the income only. NFA.

Just to confirm, I will be buying Land, I love what Illuvium are building and I want to interact with it on multiple levels. I want the fun of searching for blueprints and increasing my production. But I don’t expect Land to generate more income. I have my SLP and ILV for that

[primal widget]

anyone has that sweet dutch auction decay graphic?

@wispy aurora i think you had one of those right?

[wispy aurora]

Here’s a new updated version

[primal widget]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-and-love-thanks-thanks-dude-thanx-gif-12153004

[steady crypt]

okay now i get it

[tardy fern]

i think farming bp's is going to be very similar to breeding axie's. If you manage to find the right bp's, they will be extremely lucrative once they can't be found anymore

it happens with any game. Once an asset becomes locked with no more supply hitting the market, those in game assets appreciate over time

[mild ledge]

one thing that's not clear about BPs for me is that Keiran said they will be rare but he also said there will be about 10k of them, if you divide 10k by 150 illuvials that's not very rare at all...

[tardy fern]

I think he was meaning they are hard to come by.

[grim yew]

you guys think 30 silv2 is enough for tier 3?

[little moon]

Jump into Silv2 now or wait to get it cheaper ??

[hearty cradle]

highly unlikely

minimum is 70sILV2 imo

[marsh sage]

I think your looking at 40-50 sILV2 but 30 won’t get it done

[spring jetty]

I guess im screwed

[hearty cradle]

20eth is 140sILV2
At 50% it's 70
At 40% it's 56

[spring jetty]

if it doesn't get sold after 60 mins into the auction, i will be able to buy it lol

[hearty cradle]

right i almost forgot about the land sale

[umbral badge]

@amber atlas
I thought I read somewhere recently that the ILLUVIAL SCANNING ability is linked to the TIER of Land.
So that only a TIER 5 land can scan a Tier 5 Illuvial. Tier 4 land scan up to a Tier 4 Illuvial etc.
Is that correct?

Unfortunately I cannot find where I seen it, but I was sure that I seen on one of the documents or images, the Tier of Illuvial that can be scanned.
Which I had not heard of up to that point, as I thought it was only affinity based.

So I could be completely wrong here, and sorry if I am

[amber atlas]

if you did it is a mistake

the upgrade Tier/Stage (previously called level) of the Singularity Scanner is associated with the Tier of Illuvial you can scan, btu this is not restricted by the Tier of the land plot

[umbral badge]

Thank you for clarifying. that makes a lot of sense

also, I was so excited with the Economic Gamefication potential when I heard about the Skinned items can be pulled apart.
It suddenly added such a huge depth to it.
If you are crafting items to sell, you now look at the price of the individual items, look at prices of the Illuvials, but also prices of Finished items that may have parts you need.
and suddenly there are hundreds of different economic paths to take to do these Skinned Items.

You could even become a Wrecking yard, where you buy cheap less popular Skinned items, pull them apart and sell their core items, or hold and wait, knowing those have started to Trend.

Very awesome depth to it and makes it a very complex Economic Game for people who want to go deep, but also a very simple Game for people who just want to grind for specific parts to build a specific item.

LEGEND!

[toxic zealot]

Hey guys, I just got this email to join the beta. Can any of you confirm it’s the real thing, not some scam?

[abstract crown]

Yeah looks like the one I got anyway

[crimson abyss]

Looks right. You can always just go to illuvium.io rather than use any links. Safer that way

[toxic zealot]

Great, thanks!

[shrewd dagger]

nice thesis. i am also staking ilv and slp. this is the easiest thing to do

[shrewd dagger]

don't you think there will be a market for flipping land?

[worn grotto]

Blueprints sound like they will be very valuable early on though so the gamble could be worth it.

[reef echo]

You think a T4 will last 55min? LOL

[obsidian tusk]

Seems interesting, how can we join the beta for Zero ?

[vivid cipher]

There is no beta for #🎮〕illuvium-zero yet

Probably land owners will be the first outside the official testers.

[cyan dew]

Got my private beta access 🎉 🎉

[ancient matrix]

Congrats👍

[little moon]

Hello Brother 👀

[cyan dew]

https://tenor.com/view/yo-getumangon-yo-umang-yo-man-peace-out-gif-16918233

[cyan dew]

Thanks!!

[sleek flicker]

It takes money to make money. Worst case? Buy some ILV and make what profits you can and be that much closer to Whaledom in the next opportunity.

[soft spindle]

You are right. That’s where the excitement comes from. Imagine waking up to a rare 1/1 blueprint! It creates a random, fun interaction that appeals to the dopamine part of our brains

[soft spindle]

Yes there will be, but you are relying on Land increasing in value. The value will be determined by a few factors, mainly ROI potential, and then brand alignment.

This is assuming Land gets sold at fair value. If it gets sold at the starting costs there will be no market. And if the interest is low in the Land sale there will be an opportunity to buy for cheap and flip later. However, that does take on some risk.

[tardy fern]

i think the most valuable asset is going to be collecting illuvials though as they have the most limited supply as they cant be recreated unlike skins

collecting bp's + illuvials = 👌

[soft spindle]

Skins are unlimited for the season only, like illuvials. So once the season closes there will be no more blueprints from that season produced. If demand from the game is high (and let’s be honest, we all think it will, that’s why we are here) then both will be very lucrative

[tardy fern]

can't you keep recreating skins with your bp though?

[soft spindle]

Well it’s up to the blueprint holder. In theory, yes, if there are 3 BPs and you have 1, then those other 2 could flood the market. But if you have a 1/1, you can control supply. Blueprints are finite, skins are not

[tardy fern]

ah sweet as thanks for the info.

[ancient matrix]

This is the best part 😬

[tardy fern]

i think unless you get your hands on a rare bp, there is going to be to much supply on the market for common skins

[soft spindle]

I was watching the interview between Arash and Johnny and Johnny mentioned there was some really large number of potential unique Blueprints up for grabs each season and that the chances of getting a 1/1 wasn’t as rare as you would think. I forget the exact numbers, but I was surprised, and it made me much more bullish on BPs

[tardy fern]

I used to play loads of warframe and they had a similar system that what illuvium wants to do. Every "season" they would stop dropping relics to get certain recipes for getting warframes.

Before they vaulted the relics (meaning you cant get them any more), relics and ingredients to get those warframes would be super cheap on the secondary market. Once you couldn't get them anymore, their prices would increase substantially over a year +.

I think a very similar thing will happen with illuvium bp's and illuvials

[tardy fern]

oh really? so they must have a crazy amount of variation then....

the question then becomes what are your chances of getting a 1/1 for a desired illuvial then

[ancient matrix]

I have a question
Let's say I have a scolar. He scans a singularity. that does not mean anything until that point but he can research it and get lucky and make a blueprint. How would that work, if he is not the owner... or is it always for the person working the land (he would have to pay for the research to try to get lucky so that makes sense, no?)

How does the part with scanning work if you lending your plot?

[waxen vector]

Do you guys know if we can play the land game right after the land sale?

[empty path]

It could be another month, depending how fast they can upgrade everything they wanted to upgrade before launch

[ancient matrix]

We probably won't be able to play it right after Johnny said it is possible that it starts after the game launch

[split vortex]

after the game launch thats a joke they said the land has direktly utility and then we have to waite a half year to start with it ore what

[empty path]

We can play the game, we just won't be earning any money

[split vortex]

but we can level the land bulidings up? that we have more earning when its starts?

[empty path]

You can but everything will be resetted once the full game launches so everybody starts equal

[split vortex]

do someone know can we buy land on secondary markt illuvidex after the landsale?

[empty path]

If people are willing to sell, I don't see why not

[split vortex]

always people try to flip....

[soft spindle]

Yeah, some will be more desired than others, and I think the secondary market will be where you can find the particular one you like

[timber sapphire]

This has never been said

[split vortex]

ofc kieran said in the ama, that the most other projekts are selling their produkts without utility and the land is ready and has some direktly utility....maybe not the same words but the same meaning

[empty path]

You'll have a game to play

[split vortex]

is it possible to use silv2 for the second landsale too?

[empty path]

I guess there will need to be a new IIP for the second land sale so that will be up the the community and the council

[amber narwhal]

does that mean you might not can use silv2 in second landsale? i gotta spend it all then

[quick flower]

Yes the lands already had utilities and currently played internally. Just that land owners may have to wait a while before playing

[timber sapphire]

I think you misunderstood him

[split vortex]

maybe, i just think the prices will drop after the sale because the world in crypto is fast and when u dont have some income for that long time u might get it ceaper if u buy one on the illuvidex 4 weeks later

[empty path]

It's probably going to be possible to use it but it's only official once an IIP has passed. You can also use them for in-game transactions or to buy Illuvatars

[quick flower]

That's up to your speculations then. In terms of utilities, iz sure does have gameplay, and will have yield when the main game is out.

[split vortex]

ofc when its the main game planed to get launched?

[quick flower]

https://c.tenor.com/4T7yp0z99yAAAAAM/illuvium-illuviumio.gif

[hearty cradle]

imo Q4

[hearty cradle]

exactly my plan

planned interest hike up to december

[split vortex]

lets see how low the dutch auktion goes 😉

hope some near information how everything works comes soon 🙂

[hearty cradle]

thursday

[tardy fern]

to create a skin, do we need the bp + illuvial and then does the illuvial get burnt?

[timber sapphire]

This land is a long term investment. If you want quick money dont invest in this unless you maybe get a very good deal with flipping but i wont count on it

[hearty cradle]

yes

[timber sapphire]

So its some sort of sacrificial ritual👹

[split vortex]

i want to stay longterm but i need a good price for the entry....thats the same in every bussines

[lapis ledge]

We skin the Illuvials?

[timber sapphire]

Thats why we have a dutch auction. Buy when you think price is right. If not there is always secondary market

[tardy fern]

lmao so 1/1 skins for super rare illuvials are actually going to be ludicrously expensive

poor illuvials, the bp farmers are going to make some go extinct from the game literally

[potent dock]

I think it's more of a fusing process than a skinning ritual lmao

Funny way to think about it though

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/roast-turkey-turkey-thanksgiving-gif-18067752

[royal coral]

Is some explication video creating by the marketing team about the land sale details ? Like how it will works specifically ecc

[timber sapphire]

That sounds more family friendly lol

[hearty cradle]

thats the plan

[hearty cradle]

there was a teaser video, nothing detailed

[tardy fern]

man need to spend lots of time trying to collect as many illuvials as possible early on

[hearty cradle]

hoard them
with cheap sILV2

[tardy fern]

is there a set number of illuvials that can be found for each type?

or is the supply infinite but they become harder and harder to find as time goes on?

[spring jetty]

we need a video showcasing some game-plays for the over world like catching Illuvials

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/target-cross-hair-gun-surrender-sniper-gif-16853146

[timber sapphire]

First land sale article thats a week late already

[tardy fern]

was there a time announced for the article?

[timber sapphire]

In the last article it said the next would be "next week". That was almost 2 weeks ago i believe

[tardy fern]

oh then that is a delay. main thing is land sale doesnt get pushed back

[timber sapphire]

Yeah oke but more info is always good

[empty path]

@vapid bough Do you know when it will be published?

[vapid bough]

Before the land sale. That's all I can say for now 😉

[empty path]

Soon it is

[vapid bough]

Originally that was the plan, however this was adjusted for multiple reasons. The upside to this is that it will be more comprehensive, higher quality and offer a better user experience. The downside, it's coming out later than initially announced. We understand that people want to prepare themselves for the land sale and are doing our best to provide everyone with the necessary tools, information and time to do so. Thanks for your understanding.

[dire pier]

Is illuvium zero already in private beta?

[empty path]

The team is already playing it but that's all for now

[dire pier]

Well that's good at least its playable

[queen folio]

Private Alpha is what Johnny called it, I think.
Then landowners will get "open alpha" some time after the land sale (no earning except for some blueprints)
Then when the main game launches, land gets wiped and both Illuvium and I:Z will be in open beta (with earning through fuel + blueprints)

[ancient matrix]

I hope they manage that all 🙏

[timber sapphire]

Yeah no hate but maybe make an announcement or something saying that its later, maybe its just me but i was confused and thought i missed it

Take your time

[timber sapphire]

Wait you can get blueprints in open alpha?

[queen folio]

Yeah, there will be a small set of blueprints which can be obtained upon successful research attempts. Those will remain after the wipe when open beta begins 🙂

[timber sapphire]

Cool looking forward to it

[jaunty ermine]

hi, where is the spreadsheet with eth+silv2 prices next to each other? i cannot find it anymore

[quick flower]

Look for it in pinned messages

[jaunty ermine]

did

[quick flower]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18u7qTwcm7EJNt0sW3YrZ19-W0U8-ta5uTMBpz9LzEAI/edit#gid=1624078536

This has been updated with the new prices

[jaunty ermine]

ty

[timber sapphire]

Why does it go till 10 min instead of 1? Prices can get lower than here right?

[quick flower]

To keep the time collumn consistent i guess? I doubt prices will go that low anyway

[hearty cradle]

1 week before the land sale?

[empty path]

Soon

[timber sapphire]

Yeah oke fair

[stray fulcrum]

Any guesses on how much silv2 I’ll need for a T1 😅

[grand sigil]

When is zero going to be launched?

[empty path]

Probably about 1 month after the land sale

[grand sigil]

@empty path ty🙏

[hearty cradle]

max 14 sILV2

[grand sigil]

@empty path is free to play right? No registration before on qlny list or something?

[empty path]

T0 land is free to play, yes

[grand sigil]

@empty path and if i buy a r3 for ex. Can i use it?

[stray fulcrum]

Thank you 🥲 I’ll have to try get some more or hope it drops in price to what I can afford

[empty path]

If you buy a T3 land, you can build on the T3 land. But once the main game is launched, everything will get wiped

[hearty cradle]

u still got kidney?

[stray fulcrum]

👀 perhaps are you interested in a trade 💰

[grand sigil]

@empty path but ill keep my t3 right?

[blissful estuary]

Hi folks i am new how can we prepare to make sure to be in the land sale? Thanks

[empty path]

Yes of course 🙂

[grand sigil]

and this is like a demo version for the pc version? Or is exactly how pc version will be?@empty path

[hearty cradle]

ill sharpen my scissors

[hearty cradle]

fill your bag with sILV2 or eth

[stray fulcrum]

Perfect. Now I’ll get that T1 😂

[stray fulcrum]

From my understanding it will be playable on both PC and mobile

[grand sigil]

@stray fulcrum that'd be nice

[stray fulcrum]

Yeah I can’t wait to see what the detail is like on the PC version. 😍

[blissful estuary]

Hmm what is sILV2? Thanks

[hearty cradle]

sILV2 or synthetic ILV is a token that can be spent to purchase land, illuvitar, and travel, shards

[blissful estuary]

Ok so we can buy with Eth or sILV2 only? Why synthetic ILV?

Why not ILV?

[hearty cradle]

ILV is governance token

[empty path]

!ilv

[dry forge]

ILV is not needed for gameplay in any way. Instead, it has three main functions:

Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals and electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.

Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV (or sILV). Additional ILV will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.

Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available from sales once the game and Illuvidex launch.

[hearty cradle]

sILV2 is the gift card rewarded from staking ILV

[vivid cipher]

I want to make sure that you understand that The #🎮〕illuvium-zero game and the autobattler and overworld game are not the same games. They are completely different games. Economically connected in the real world. But different games.

[blissful estuary]

Seem complicated so we cant buy sILV2 only get it if we stake eth

[vivid cipher]

No.

[pure mason]

Eth ply. Lol. Yep. Amateur hour been going on since December

[vivid cipher]

!claim

[dry forge]

Rewards from staking have to be manually claimed and GAS fees for those transactions have to be paid:

• When you stake ILV yield farming rewards start piling up for you
• You claim those rewards whenever you deem the pile to be big enough to justify gas fees
• If you claim sILV2 you have it unlocked right away (sILV2 is only usable in game as a substitute currency for ETH outside the marketplace and the Leviathan Arena)
• If you claim ILV then that batch of ILV gets locked for 12 months and automatically staked in the ILV pool with a token weight of 2.0 for compounding effect
• New rewards start piling up....rinse and repeat

NB: ILV paid out as part of Illuvium’s Revenue Distribution have to be claimed as well but are not subject to a locking period.

[hearty cradle]

you can buy sILV2 from a private pool on uniswap

[grand sigil]

@vivid cipher oh. Ok. Got it

[rugged epoch]

Only land owners will be able to produce fuel and skins , is this correct ?

[hearty cradle]

blueprint, yes
fuel, 95% from stakers, 5% from landowners

looks so real

[stray fulcrum]

Can I only get silv2 on uniswap? Apart from staking ofcourse 🙂

[queen folio]

I think so. I believe that is the only liquidity pool that has been seeded by community members

[rugged epoch]

How will blueprints work ? Will they be tradable on the market ?

[queen folio]

Yup! They will be NFTs-- you can keep them as they will be a requirement to craft different skins in the main Illuvium game. Or you can sell blueprints to other players who want to craft the skins instead

[rugged epoch]

Can u discover the same blueprint twice ? Then sell the second one and still be able to make the skins from the first one u discovered ?

[hoary swan]

Do you need regist somewhere or everybody can buy the land?

[grim yew]

If im buying silv2 can i unlock back to ilv after a period?

[hearty cradle]

Yes

[hearty cradle]

no

[half turtle]

I know they have a different auction structure, but any thoughts:
https://twitter.com/WillPapper/status/1520592312379658241?t=82xIRWZ0fHZAV5WWiNs_Xg&s=19

Will Papper ✺ (@WillPapper)

Nearly $100M has been spent on gas for the BAYC land sale in one hour. This is money that could have gone to Yuga or stayed in user's pockets.

The contract had nearly zero gas optimizations. I'll explain a few gas optimization tricks that could have saved many millions below 👇

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Twitter · May 1, 2022, 2:33 AM

[grim yew]

does the tier land = tier illuvials? can i catch tier 5 illuvials without the corresponding land?

[empty path]

That is why Illuvium land sale is an Dutch Auction spread over 3 days

[hearty cradle]

No
Yes

[grim yew]

Ok cool

[queen folio]

Just to clarify, capturing Illuvials will only happen in the main Illuvium overworld game.
You cannot capture Illuvials on land-- the land is for Illuvium: Zero which is a separate game for city building and generating resources.

[grim yew]

thought we could play/build on our land

[half turtle]

Right, but I was more considering the code modifications, that could - potentially- save resources on any auction. Possibly including the dutch auction

[queen folio]

Yes, you use land in the Illuvium: Zero mobile game. It is a city-builder game... and the structures you build can produce elements and "fuel" which can be used in the main game.

But if you want to explore the overworld, battle Illuvials and capture them, that is in the main Illuvium game 🙂 No land is required to play the main game.

So two separate games:

1. **Illuvium **which is where you explore the overworld, find/capture Illuvials, PvP in the autobattler arenas, etc.

2. Illuvium: Zero which is where you build on the land plots. Produce elements to create buildings/structures which can then produce Fuel which can be used in Illuvium.

[earnest whale]

hi guys. will secondry market for lands will be also in OpenSea or only IMX?

[glacial garnet]

Imx

[versed gorge]

Is the land sale on binance

[versed gorge]

Were is the land sale and When if u could help

[slim wigeon]

Landsale on Illuvium website on the 02.06.2022

illuvium dot io

[versed gorge]

Thank u Oh good I thought it was on binance What do u figure cost will be

[slim wigeon]

nobody knows only starting prices are known

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857471213513605140/966362100039553115/unknown.png

[versed gorge]

I see,, well I'm buy n some Land no matter what the Price , Cause I Got Nothing But Love For illuvium 🔮 ♥️

[versed gorge]

Thank Yiu for your Time and info

[vapid bough]

Excuse me sir. This is Illuvium; we don't due high resolution. We do ultra-super-ridiculous resolution

[vapid bough]

The land sale will be on Illuvium's own marketplace; the soon to be released IlluviDex

[quick flower]

Even the grasses at the base look real 👀 👀

T1 land has a lot of empty space -> more space for Illuvials to come by
T5 is stuffed -> no blueprint

[worn grotto]

Crazy graphics

[small star]

Depends what you build on your land

[quick flower]

It was a joke:))

[small star]

The best is how compare to the previous version, the weeds and soil is covering the bottom of the buildings

[vapid bough]

Its so true. It has been described as taking the visual quality from 3/10 > 9/10. While there is a bit of delay due to the art rework, then end result is such a HUGE upgrade that IZ players will enjoy for years to come.

[quick flower]

It will look better than any mobile games out there

[vapid bough]

Even think about it simply from an NFT collector's perspective; NFT market is all about the art. Land NFTs are new. Most don't have utility yet. Illuvium Land NFTs have insane art quality + industry leading utility. I understand a lot more about how much passion and effort has been put into IZ and land now.

[placid finch]

Is the marketplace coming before June 2?

[vapid bough]

Yes, people will be able to try it out in advance before the land sale.

[placid finch]

What if there are any problems

[vapid bough]

That's what internal testing is for. 😉

[placid finch]

Internal tests and when it comes to public are too very different things

Even triple A game developers come out with bugs. Let’s say there is a bug that costs money on the marketplace. What will happen then?

I feel like they shouldn’t launch the market place so soon to the land sale

[vapid bough]

Not to get too specific, but there are stress tests on the testnet, etc.

[desert trout]

I think it would be less the marketplace and more the landsale contract that would be able to cause problems which the contract is as good as done being reviewed and audited I believe. Worst case scenario you buy the wrong spot because of a visual glitch maybe? Otw not sure what issues there would be to fear.

[kind wave]

any educated guesses on what minting cost will be in IMX?

[thin wolf]

what time is it?UTC?

[sleek flicker]

I'm gonna need a newer phone

[vapid bough]

So many people upgrading their PCs and phones to play Illuvium games with better graphics. 😂

[empty path]

I listed an NFT so I can upgrade

[lusty depot]

Iphone good for iz?

[vivid cipher]

There will not be a cost on IMX to mint. The cost to mint is paid on ethereum mainnet.

Later on, when playing the games, minting nfts in the game will be done on IMX and will be free. That’s how Tier 0 illuvials can be real nfts but still free to Capture.

[vivid cipher]

Should be.

[wispy aurora]

#📣〕announcements message

Thanks for the ping. 9 (I suppose AM) UTC. Will add that to the infographic.

[vapid bough]

Regarding this first land sale: Technically, it's the purchase that happens on Etherium Mainnet L1 that incurs a gas fee for the buyer, the land NFT is then minted on IMX L2 for free.

As you mentioned future plan is for whole process for any Illuvium transactions to be gas free on IMX.

[thin wolf]

Awesome,love your guys work

[wispy aurora]

Thanks mate. We’re busy doing a lot of work behind the scenes. We want to push out more infographic but having other parallel behind the scenes stuff makes us slower on that front at the moment.

[thin wolf]

Can you share what you are working on?

[wispy aurora]

There some structure work so we grow as planned etc but also some good stuff cooking. Won’t tell more than so 😌

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[abstract crown]

Good luck with that. Hope u get a good sale and your new pc works 🤞mines coming tomorrow now. So I might get to play properly for a little bit in the evening

[static blade]

Do we need to connect to imx server or just your our ethereum main network on metamask? Have never used imx before so appreciate some tips :)

[vapid bough]

You would connect to both, with IMX having it's own wallet. For people familiar with MM, using IMX could feel similar.

[static blade]

So I need to download an imx wallet and send my eth there? What should I Google on YouTube to learn this? Cheers!!

[vapid bough]

For this first land sale the purchase will happen on Etherium L1 with a standard gas fee, then the actual mint occurs on IMX with no gas. In the future the aim is for everything to be gas free on IMX L2. Don't stress, this stuff will feel more clear as we get closer to land sale.

[static blade]

Ok thanks! So just connect to etherium main net like normal and mint from website 👍

[pearl marten]

This will also be the case for the IlluviDex right?

[vapid bough]

The land sale, Illuvitars, player to player marketplace are all on the IlluviDex

[pearl marten]

Got it ..thanks!

[ornate sparrow]

hello how is the price of the land?

[limber egret]

Is sILV2 still available on Uniswap?

[pearl marten]

Yep

[limber egret]

Does it just show up as SILV?

[pearl marten]

nope... you can find the token address in the #🔗〕helpful-links

[limber egret]

You just put the 0x7 address into uniswap?

[pearl marten]

Yes .. at least that's how I did it

[lofty bramble]

Sure is. Just double check it's the correct sILV2 address and you're away

[foggy sapphire]

Does Silv have a secondary market like before the hack?

[lofty bramble]

SILV is a dead token. There is now SILV2 instead. there is an unofficial pool on uniswap but trade at your own risk on that. You can find the token address for sILV2 under the "helpful Links" section of the discord

You can also view the unofficial pool on dextools .io. (look for the WETH/SILV2 pool)

[tardy halo]

How many silv2 required for 1 eth for land sale?

[vivid cipher]

It will depend on ILV price at the time of the sale.

Currently it would be 6.7 silv2 or 1 eth. $1930eth/$285ilv=6.7sILV2

[tardy halo]

Thanks

[flat eagle]

Thanks

[calm trout]

Thanks

[hearty cradle]

youve been using it for weeks lol

[reef echo]

well its finally true

[worn grotto]

How many different resources in Illuvium zero will be used in the main game?

[vivid cipher]

3 fuels. As erc20 tokens. Many blueprints

[worn grotto]

Is there anywhere to find an in depth explanation on blueprints?

[main vine]

how many tier 5 is available

[vivid cipher]

Answered elsewhere.

Not quite in depth. But…#🎮〕illuvium-zero message and other pins.

[harsh acorn]

Johnny did an interview on a Polemos YouTube channel that explains quite a bit about blueprints and Iluvium zero

[little moon]

Buy Silv2 now or wait to see if it can go lower ??

[mossy sorrel]

do we get to keep our progress and goods from the start or will it get reset when the game actually comes out?

[vivid cipher]

Everything resets when the autobattler launches publicly. Only keep the blueprint nfts.

!land

[dry forge]

June 2nd is the date set for the first Land Sale. Illuvium: Zero is a mobile mini-game that will interact with the main game. Illuvium: Zero is a building game staged on a piece of land. Paid land will produce Fuel ERC20 tokens and Blueprints, interacting with the main game. There are 100k plots of land in total, and the first land sale will offer 20k of these plots for sale in a dutch auction format. We delete all progress when Illuvium: Overworld launches. For more information, visit #🎮〕illuvium-zero

[mossy sorrel]

so basically, till game comes out, land can't produce any ressources we can keep... so it would be best to use all ressources in trying to get blue prints?

[vivid cipher]

Yeah

[mossy sorrel]

thanks bud

[spark crest]

Hard to tell. But when there was announcment of annoucment of date for LandSale, there was pump from 150$ to 300$, so some may say it will happen again near land sale. Not financial advice

[little moon]

I just bought 30 SILV2 😅 I think I caused the price to jump👀

[spark crest]

Nice buy. What tier are you aming at?

[little moon]

I’m hoping to get a tier 2 and a tier 1 near the 50% range 😅 we will see

[thin wolf]

I am hoping I can do tier 1 for each region😅 failing that I will go for tier 0...

I need more kids to grind this game...

[empty path]

Nice goals

[thin wolf]

Kinda need no one to buy for 119 min to be able to do it😅

[empty path]

Errrr good luck

[thin wolf]

Thanks I am going to need it

[empty path]

I agree

[pearl marten]

That's what i hope too .. but for T1 it s going to be difficult to reach 50% i think

[thin wolf]

On a more serious note, I know how much Silv I want to use for land and Illuvitars and if the price goes down to that area I am getting land, if not I will wait for the secondary market.

[thin wolf]

I think so too, especially with the mega city potential that could add a lot of value to the t1 lands for whales

[pearl marten]

That s the correct attitude to have but if only all of us would be that disciplined 😄

[pearl marten]

Yep that too

[thin wolf]

Might change when they start releasing more details for the lands(this week?)our resolve will be tested for sure😃

[cyan dew]

Can you use the second market only with eth or also with silv v2?

[spark crest]

Only eth

[cyan dew]

Thanks

[agile sigil]

With 30 sILV2. whouldent that be enough for 2x tier 2 lands you think?

[little moon]

Nope 😂 30 SILV2 is only 4.5 ETH at todays price and tier 2 lands starts at 6 ETH so if I wait till 50% that would be 3 ETH and 50 of a tier 1 is 1 ETH so yea i’m hoping to be able to buy them both at 50% which is still very unlikely 😅

[gusty frigate]

what are the advantages of buying land? does this guarantee i will be rich? 🤣

[gilded olive]

I think people with silv2 will fomo in and when its comes to eth we can see a decrease in price.....dnt knw what will happen......for me 1 eth for Tier 1 is not a bad price at all

[spring jetty]

i say at least somewhat close to the original price which is quarter of the current price

especially in the current market

[tall bear]

Hey Quick question on the blueprints : will they be used to create skins for the illuvials, or used to create skins for our character based on some illuvials traits ?

[spark crest]

They are used for creating skins for weapon and armor so far.

[tall bear]

So character skin

[rotund forum]

But one thing is landsale and another the launch of IZ which if I am not very mistaken will also be end of next month

[quick elm]

Sorry for old question, not been here a while. Is illuvium zero gonna be running on/through ImmutableX ?

[fair temple]

You will mint the lands on the ethereum blockchain during the sale. Then it will be minted onto IMX. All future transactions from there on will be on IMX yes.

[quick elm]

Thanks

[wooden sphinx]

Already got 75 sILV2, need more🔥🔥🔥 hope I’ll be much ready for auction 🙏🙏🙏 target: tier4 -perfect scenario, if not I’ll go for tier3 “unfortunately”))

[wooden sphinx]

But what if price never reach the target because of Hype ? Then I will hold my sILV2 for illuvitars. Don’t get me wrong, but looks like tier 1-2 for multi land owners … I just look for one solid land for play. Any thoughts?

[timber sapphire]

Seems like a plan

[willow torrent]

Can someone pump ILV prior to sale. Please and thanks

[timber sapphire]

Lol

[sly summit]

And dump eth

[willow torrent]

the ETH dump might be a touch harder to pull off

[left wagon]

toooo hard

[pearl marten]

lool .. +1 on the request 😄

[jagged brook]

Please No more dumping 😖🤣🤣

Up only!

[iron laurel]

Of course.
(Not financial advice)

[faint nexus]

Landlords & Landladies get paid in ILV or ETH ?

[mystic umbra]

Is there a discount for buying the land in silv or should I stick with eth

[pure cloak]

ETH

[faint nexus]

Thanks a ton 🙂

[hearty wraith]

Ok i will buy 0.1 ilv to pump it

[undone skiff]

In dollar terms, buying in Silv2 is cheaper compared with buying in ETH

[mystic umbra]

What’s the price in silv2?

Comparatively to eth? Going to start getting my funds together for the land sale and looking for the most cost effective way to do so

[undone skiff]

Silv2 is currently priced at 165USD. In the land sale, sILV2 price = ILV price. And ILV price is USD300. You could say that you can buy land at half the price with silv2

[queen folio]

DP2 pinned a nice spreadsheet in this channel which lays out the pricing throughout the sale (with current token prices). You might be able to get a general idea of how it'll all work... but who knows where the token prices will be when the sale comes around

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[mystic umbra]

Yeah wow I see that now. Almost a 50% discount buying with silv2.

In your guys opinion will the set price be the starting price of the auction or will it falter

[undone skiff]

By design (dutch auction) , it should fall and the lands should not sell at start price. But who knows what will haooen when FOMO kicks in. Personally, i want them not to sell for 60 to 90 mins so that i can get em cheap :P

[mild ledge]

Last thing I heard was armor only, Kieran said it in a recent interview

[spark crest]

Which interview?

[mild ledge]

The one with Volkin about the land sale, a few days old by now

[spark crest]

I have to watch it again, probably missed it.

[mild ledge]

I was a bit surprised to hear it too, but I was also wondering how are we gonna be able to see skins on weapons anyway... Not much of a surface area there

[humble lichen]

Weapon on *Illuvials? I think weapon is for the human

[hearty cradle]

ikr

it's easy to miss the ranger at the later waves

[marsh sage]

Kieran indicated that they originally were going to skin the weapons but it doesn't make sense to add an Atlas (water) based skin to a weapon if you're equipping a fire-affinity sword. Because you need the affinity/class combo for the weapons to work for game-balance the weapons won't be skinned directly. But they're adding more skins in for armor to compensate for those numbers so the total blueprint count stays the same.

[rugged epoch]

Question about the fuel produced on your land. Can you use it for your own personal use in game without selling it? I am assuming not but wasnt sure .

[foggy glacier]

What's the price of each tier?

[spark crest]

Armor doesnt have class/affinity? Only stats like hp/armor/magic def? (Nor sure how its called ingame)

[queen folio]

Not exactly-- while there will likely be a function to "transfer" fuel from your land to your wallet, it sounds like behind the scenes, that function will still be selling that fuel from your land to the fuel pool for ETH, then immediately taking that ETH and buying the fuel from your wallet.

Here's the response from Johnny which goes over that:

[queen folio]

Starting prices are below.
It's a Dutch Auction, so the prices start out very high and they decrease every minute for up to 2 hours until someone buys it 🙂
More info on the sale in #📰〕governance-news

[marsh sage]

The details of the augments aren't fully clear now for the ranger but at least in the beta there are not affinity/class combinations. It's more of a power level and will presumably cost more mastery points when augments are fully implemented.

[earnest falcon]

I wonder what price the market will decide on. The fact that people got Silv2 at a big discount will count I am sure. No point using ETH until there is cheap Silv2 available. So Either all Silv2 will be used and then some ETH, or land will be relatively cheap and revdis wont be high. Likely though if things continue to go into the right direction, this will be the cheapest landsale in ILV history, especially considering the goblin town we are in.

And some illuvitar sales... either I am vastly overestimating interest, or Silv2 price must go up by a LOT. Curious how my theory will play out, market is the ultimate judge 😄

[wide tartan]

If that's the case, and when you 'transferred' from land to wallet, with being behind the scenes, what it the fuel sold and bought changes in ETH price beyond the slippage range?

[queen folio]

Ahh, I wouldn't be able to speak to that as I'm not one of the developers. But given Johnny said "there might (almost certainly will) be a transfer to wallet button" makes me think scenarios like that are being discussed and tackled on the back end 👍

[brave vine]

How many silv to buy land ?

[tardy fern]

and eth terms, you get 2x more eth buying power

[queen folio]

It's a bit hard to speculate that right now since we don't know what all of the token prices are going to be on June 2nd.

But DP2 has a spreadsheet pinned in this channel which shows what the prices would look like throughout the sale at the current token prices. But again, who knows what the tokens will be at in a couple of weeks.

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[brave vine]

awesome thanks a lot

will all tiers start at same time ?

[amber atlas]

(wrong channel)

[left fjord]

Dont you think 100k lands supply is way to much?

[reef echo]

it's not compared to other projects, I think axie has 212k lands or something like that, others are even higher. Plus its only 20k at a time

[placid finch]

Do you think getting a t4 land will be cheaper on the secondary market?

[gusty fractal]

no....

[placid finch]

Why not?

[wide tartan]

I was thinking that too, I was just wondering if anyone knew. Lol. Thanks 👍

[desert trout]

Land would honestly be good to use for a guild house type element too and then 100k might start seeming like too few in the long run.

[mild ledge]

do we know if skins will have mint numbers or not?

[queen ore]

yes whales will definatly do this

[hearty wraith]

If all 197k of us here buy 0.1 ilv , we will have better silv value againt eth

[queen ore]

just let whales do it, they will do it because its the oldest trick in the book, pump and dump based on news and hype, as fast as it goes up, it will go down just a quick

[hearty wraith]

🙌🏻

[queen ore]

look what happend to SILV2 it more than doubled in value in 5 hrs of the land sale release news

[feral wharf]

what news land sale?

[vivid cipher]

!land check the pins in here for more info

[dry forge]

June 2nd is the date set for the first Land Sale. Illuvium: Zero is a mobile mini-game that will interact with the main game. Illuvium: Zero is a building game staged on a piece of land. Paid land will produce Fuel ERC20 tokens and Blueprints, interacting with the main game. There are 100k plots of land in total, and the first land sale will offer 20k of these plots for sale in a dutch auction format. We delete all progress when Illuvium: Overworld launches. For more information, visit #🎮〕illuvium-zero

[feral wharf]

!land check

[vivid cipher]

So we mods get @dry forge to share info with !commands like !land. If you want to check the pins…

[feral wharf]

but this information it old news rigth ?

same information you first announcement land sale.

[empty path]

What else would you like to know

[blazing ferry]

Announced a couple weeks back, which is when the price spike happened

Maybe a bit before that, actually it was the announcement that the announcement of the land sale date was coming that spiked it haha

[edgy dagger]

We have to have in mind that this is for other games too. Illuvium will be developing other games, and with those comes lands sales as well (within these 100k land units)

[hoary swan]

after land sale lands will list on opensea , right?

[empty path]

They will be on the Illuvium marketplace called the Illuvidex. But if you really want you can move them away from this market place (it's on L2 with IMX) and move them back to L1 and list them on OS.

Did @fair temple just stop cause he saw me type?

[fair temple]

I just wanted to give you the opportunity to respond

[empty path]

Did I do good?

[fair temple]

https://tenor.com/view/stich-lilo-and-stitch-pet-head-good-girl-gif-17069862

[hearty cradle]

yes

they have to wait for the growth of players/revenue to sell the 2nd batch

[tardy fern]

100k is pretty standard. Look at dcentraland, sandbox, and axie

[hearty cradle]

now look at their fp

[tardy fern]

Decentraland at 2.3eth with 97k supply and the sandbox at 1.75 eth with 140k supply

Will be interesting because there is only going to be 20k plots of land for a while which is a massive supply difference

[stoic plank]

No one would sale at a lose when you can hold and sell fuel and make some passive income instead. Compared to any other land we got utility from start. Whoever would sell cheaper is just gonna regret 😅

[ivory bough]

please don't buy all of it 😄 we want some too haha

[empty path]

Sure you are

[ivory bough]

lol that makes me poorer then 😄 I hope I can afford T0 now

[spring jetty]

but you are a wizard you need at least a t 5

[ivory bough]

at least a T5? I'm actually planning for a T6.

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[spring jetty]

can I be your scholar sir

[ivory bough]

When I get my T6, know that block chain has been declared broken

[empty path]

That's just 2 T3 right?

[ivory bough]

Give me a T1 and I'll be pretty happy.

[spring jetty]

no it's T5 + T1

[tardy fern]

Lmao imagine seeing this 1 random transaction coming through saying 1 T6 minted

[ivory bough]

ikr? That's why I said that can break the block chain 😄

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-wat-what-gif-18497036

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/possibilities-endless-possibilities-sponge-bob-rainbow-gif-12940820

[tardy fern]

If you can break the block chain you deserve a t7

[earnest falcon]

Lol. Wondering how many lands to buy and at what price. A lot of things can happen in two weeks, hopefully all good stuff

[fallow marten]

june 2 is confirmed landsale yeah? 9:00 UTC?

[empty path]

Until it gets wiped right?

[fallow marten]

did I get the time correct 9:00 UTC?

[empty path]

Yes

#📣〕announcements message

Will you be a land lord or a farmer?

[spring jetty]

can i be both?

[empty path]

As in, are you going to play it yourself or let somebody else do it for you

[spring jetty]

Im gonna buy land but i wanna rent others land as well lol

[empty path]

Respect

I'll pray for you

(I won't)

[earnest falcon]

Would be nice if people fomod in at the beginning, so floor would be lower at later sales

[empty path]

SM scares me

[hearty cradle]

if only you know what SM is capable of

[empty path]

WGMI 👀

[wise python]

If there's 1 person that could destroy the entire Illuvium economy it's you sir.

[earnest falcon]

Twitter or youtube?

[lapis gulch]

Is this why we have this huge wave or new people in discord now?

[hearty cradle]

still waiting for kiyosaki

[left wagon]

i think so

[lapis gulch]

Welcome, how did you learn about illuvium?

[left wagon]

on official twit

[robust belfry]

I have a question: Is that a reduction also or right now they gonna change something?

[empty path]

Can you rephrase the question? I don't understand what you are asking

[robust belfry]

So, a couple of months ago, I saw that they gonna sale land`s through "reduction" - antonym of auction. And my question is - are they going to change something, or everything will work according to the old plan. Sorry for my English, I am not a native speaker

[empty path]

Yes, this will still be an Dutch Auction

[vapid bough]

Dutch Auction for T1-4
Live English auction for T5

[blazing ferry]

Check this out for some more info: #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[blazing ferry]

@empty path Good call!! Thx

[lusty breach]

Would you guys explain one thing to me. It has been said that 5% of fuel revenue goes to landowners. Does that mean that the price for 1 fuel can be 1 usd in main game but the land owners are getting 0.05 USD for 1 fuel? Does that mean 0.95 usd goes to stakers as revdis?

If all fuel is produced by lands it looks like there is a 95% tax on selling fuel ;p

[vivid cipher]

Basically.

[lapis gulch]

Land owners get like 5% of the total revdis, this is a target number so far.

[manic pilot]

Is there any info where i can read the roadmap for ilv zero and open beta?

[vivid cipher]

5% of fuel revenue is a better description

[vivid cipher]

The timeframes are not the same as stated but the sequence of events is still pretty accurate. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[manic pilot]

Does that mean there is no info on which quarter of what year it will be playable?

[vivid cipher]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero land sale starts on June 2. The #🎮〕illuvium-zero game will be available to play about 1 month after.

[manic pilot]

Thanks mate! Appreciate that

[vivid cipher]

IZ is not the same game as the autobattler and overworld.

[manic pilot]

I understand. It's a resource/builder game where only people with lands can play. Thanks

[vivid cipher]

Oh good. Technically anyone can play for free. But only people with Land NFTs can produce blockchain assets.

[vapid bough]

T0 land = free land not connected to blockchain. Players can play the entire IZ game on T0 land, without earning.
T1-5 = land NFT from land sale, is fully integrated into IZ game and is connected to earning economy

[thin wolf]

Is the t5 the first batch?

[oak ruin]

2 on an English Auction

[blazing ferry]

each batch of lands in the DA will include T1-T4 plot, they haven't announced the exact timing of the T5 auctions yet

[quick flower]

I think I saw somewhere that T5 auction will be prior to other tiers to hype things up

[vapid bough]

The T5 auctions last the entire 3 days of the land sale.

[thin wolf]

Makes sense for maximum exposure

[thin wolf]

So in parallel with T1-T4?

[quick flower]

How will that work? Will they be bidding for the entire time?

[ivory vine]

If parallel with T1-T4 auctions, I'd ask if that isn't counterproductive? T5 bidders obviously sit on a lot of money, some of those losing might be willing to put that money into T1-T4 instead, resulting in higher prices. Those losing out at the end of the T5 auction won't be able to do that anymore.

[placid finch]

Where is this data written?

[undone skiff]

Now im curious, I was under the impression that from all purchases in the illuvium ecosystem or overworld. Aproximately 5% of those is for fuel. I guess I am wrong.

But assuming that you sell fuel to the pool and you only get 5% of the value back. Then players would not use the pool to buy fuel but rather buy them directly from land owners. Even if for 10% the price, land owners would be happy.

[vivid cipher]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message pretty much all the truly important stuff is in the IIPs and those have been pinned. There are other useful things that have been pinned too.

[vivid cipher]

How it works is that when land owners “sell” their fuel (swap their tokens out of the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game into liquidity pool) for every 1 fuel token minted and swapped in the DAO mints and swaps in 19. So the players control when the tokens hit the pool (and the real world economy) but they only profit on the 5% they are producing.

It’s something the team was working on figuring out since august. But didn’t end up getting voted on in the current form until February.

official IIPs and ICCPs are in #📰〕governance-news but we usually have the drafts that were sent out before the votes pinned in here.

[undone skiff]

Thank you pelican22, that cleared it up for me. I actually havent read that draft proposal. So that probably why i wasnt aware of that. Also in the IIP, i believe they did not put that phrase regarding the dao putting in 19 fuel for every 1 fuel sold. I guess it is subject to change.

[vivid cipher]

This bit

Oh crap. I see what you mean. That is the IIP draft that the council sent back to be revised. It didn’t get voted in that form. Hmm let me see…

I think they had to take that specific mechanic out because the exact HOW it works on the blockchain is not necessary to the proposal. It could limit what needs to happen to make it work like it’s supposed to work.

[main crag]

Completely agree with this. Large unsuccessful bidders will be left with large amounts of capital still on the table - capital that would have overflowed into the Dutch auction otherwise

[placid finch]

in the document it says 5 percent of all in game revenue in illuvium. This includes more than just fuel

[vivid cipher]

The target will be for landowners to earn approximately 5% of the total revenue generated from in-game purchases in Illuvium.
This is directly quoted from the IIP that was voted. Since ALL in game purchases that generate revenue will be made using Fuel tokens in what way is it possible for there to be revenue generated from in-game purchases that is more than just Fuel

[placid finch]

that includes other sources other than fuel

[vivid cipher]

Marketplace revenue is not the same

Sponsorship revenue is not the same

movie revenue is not the same

[placid finch]

in game purchases would include blueprints as well?

[vivid cipher]

Purchases made with sILV2 does not produce any revenue

[placid finch]

why isn't the marketplace considered in game?

u sell fuel in marketplace but fuel is considered in game?

[vivid cipher]

No fuel is swapped in a liquidity pool

[placid finch]

what about blueprints?

[vivid cipher]

The IlluviDEX marketplace is for player to player transactions

[placid finch]

those transaction are for in game nft right?

such as blue print and land sales

[vivid cipher]

The eligible ILV stakers do get the DAO's cut of those transactions. But Land NFT holders don't.

They simply get to sell their NFTs

[placid finch]

what is considered in game revenue then?

[vivid cipher]

ETH swapped into the FUEL liquidity pool

Blueprints would be above and beyond the 5% of in game revenue

[placid finch]

what do you mean? blueprints are not considered in game revenue?

[vivid cipher]

No. Because they are not NFTs being sold by the game. They are NFTs being sold by the players

[placid finch]

that does not make any sense. All blueprints are made on land but you can not get the revenue?

[vivid cipher]

Anyone selling their NFT gets whatever someone pays them for it. But that is not in-game revenue

Question for you... are you worried about the wording or do you not understand how its going to work?

[placid finch]

im confused a bit.I dont care about the wording. To clear it out the 5 percent revnue distribution is like land staking? you get this every month and is different from the money you get by selling fuel and Blueprints?

[timber sapphire]

The 5% is an average of the fuel revenue but will depend on your fuell development

If you do nothing with your land you dont earn

[vivid cipher]

5% revenue IS the fuel. Land owners must actively play the game to be able to produce fuel. They must then actively send the fuel out of the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game to receive ETH for it. All combined land owners will recieve about 5% of the total ETH from fuel swaps. The DAO (ILV stakers) get the rest of that ETH

[placid finch]

yes i mean assuming i have devloped my land to its ful potential thats what im talking about

[timber sapphire]

Then it would be the fuell revenue as pelican said

[placid finch]

for example if 1 fuel is 100 dollars i will recieve 5 dollars? per fuel

[timber sapphire]

But yeah they kinda did word it weird

[vivid cipher]

Essentially yes. But Not necessarily. It could be setup that you produce only the Fuel that you can sell. And the DAO mints the other 19 fuel tokens at the time of your sale and swaps for eth at the same time. (alternate example: you sell 1 fuel for $100 and receive $100, at the same time the DAO automatically mints and sells 19 fuel and receives $1900 from the swap) In practice its the same thing done through different mechanisms

[empty path]

So what you are saying is…

We are getting payed to have fun and play a game?

[placid finch]

ahhhh so if im making and selling fuel worth around 1000 dollars i will get the 1000 dollars and the DAO will make and sell 19 more fuel for every 1 fuel i sell.

[vivid cipher]

That's one option. The reality is the team may need to have it work a few different ways due to blockchain limitations that may be there now but are removed over time.

[placid finch]

are there other things than fuel the is considered in game revenue?

[vivid cipher]

no.

[placid finch]

doesnt this system punish land owners from making more fuel? every fuel i sell will make 19 more fuel causing the price to decrease?

is there a building where you can store your fuel for future sales?

[blazing ferry]

That's part of the design, land holders could choose to hold fuel back to drive prices up, or choose to sell it all to drive them back down (price fluctuation is limited to +/- 25% though)

[placid finch]

is there. storage building?

[blazing ferry]

yes, you can store fuel on the land in specific storage buildings

[placid finch]

lets say I have 2 lands am i able to transfer fuel from 1 land to another to store there?

[blazing ferry]

most likely, for some transportation fee. They've talked about reducing/eliminating the fee if the lands are closer/connected. Not sure this will be included in initial launch though

[placid finch]

what are other source of income a land owner can earn other than fuel?

[simple juniper]

Selling illuvial skins to others by crafting them using blueprint found in the land

[vivid cipher]

Blueprints. And using those in the Overworld game to mint skinned items.

[placid finch]

ok

[vivid cipher]

You can also choose to use your fuel in the overworld game to pay for in game items which you could then sell for ETH (the same processes apply but you end up with your fuel in your overworld account instead of eth)

[placid finch]

in game items such as?

[vivid cipher]

JohnnyA has mentioned that this transfer to wallet process is a little tricky to figure out the best way to make it work. Probably because ETH can be used to swap for FUEL anyways... so what's the benefit of doing it that way

[vivid cipher]

Everything that the Game sells to players (but not player to player sales) shard curing, travels, directly purchased skins

[placid finch]

ok

[vivid cipher]

#814313779696238642 message here's a general idea from long ago. Oh I forgot about IMBUES (whatever those are )

[wide tartan]

@vivid cipher , I appreciate all the information, you very knowledgeable.

[placid finch]

what is imx?

[vivid cipher]

Thanks. I certainly hope I know some by now... complete waste of how many hours if not

[empty path]

!imx

[dry forge]

Illuvium uses Immutable X as a layer 2 solution. This means that you won’t be charged network gas fees for minting and trading and instead only need to transfer funds between the Ethereum Mainnet and Immutable X. This keeps the player's cost of doing business low, maximizing potential gain. For more information about Immutable X check out:

#🔗〕helpful-links message

[placid finch]

Do we have an idea of how much fuel will be produced per land?

[vivid cipher]

Not really. All we have are the percentages from the IIP. Essentially the team will estimate fuel demand closer to when the game will actually need fuel and then when the games launch the fuel will start to flow to meet demand. Adjustments may need to be made to get things well balanced. https://gov.illuvium.io/#/proposal/0xc6edddb2618ffb4b1d83933a27c35c7a483afba1d2aba0bd882dcb773c8ef71c

[dim cave]

If I will buy Land can I have this land on Ledger nano S, I need Ledger nano S Plus or I cant have it on Ledger?

[severe karma]

I have a ledger and I think you would have to link it to metamask for you to do it

[undone skiff]

Question: a tier 1 land has 3 elemental site. Does this mean we have 1 each of hydrogen, carbon and silicon site? Or it is possible that we get 3 hydrogen site and no carbon ans silicon site. Thanks

[mild ledge]

I'm pretty sure they will be random

[undone skiff]

If that is the case then you are forced to trade with other players in order to get the resources you need to upgrade your buildings.

Not really a big deal but I have to put that friction in my decision on which land to buy.

[potent dock]

You can use a converter

[mild ledge]

Yes, but the overall allocation of each type of resource will be balanced so there should not be a big price difference in converting the one you have to the one you need

[potent dock]

A plot with 1 of each type of element would be optimal IMO for T1, but if you ended up with 2-1-0 or 3-0-0, you could convert from one type to another with structures.

[undone skiff]

Isnt there a tax when using a converter? Like you exchange 100 hydrogen and you get 95 silicon back

[potent dock]

I think generally speaking, it's a lossy transaction, yeah. Johnny mentioned it might be possible to upgrade it to a point where it's no longer lossy though.

We don't really know the finer details of stuff like that yet TBH

I think most people will end up with a converter on their plot though. There will be times, even with balanced production, where you might want more of a specific element to build a structure, or do a scan, or whatever.

At least there seems to be in most similar games I've played. Sometimes you want more X, sometimes you want more Y.

It can make for some interesting gameplay, planning ahead with elements to convert what you need so you can build something else later. You see that kind of thing pretty often in like, Factorio.

[undone skiff]

My initial though process was that you only use the converter for instant or very near term resources requirements.

If you want another type of resources, most likely you would go to marketplace and trade with other players. You might get a better deal (1:1 ratio) but it will take time to transport the resources

[mild ledge]

I think of this as an extra bit of gamification, it has zero effect on my decision to buy land or not, I see people trying to predict the ROI on land but I think they are missing the long-term promise of this game. Once the team announces the next utility for land 6 or 9 or 12 months from now, it will be too late to buy for a good price

[undone skiff]

The resource prosuction distribution has effect on my decision whether to purchase T1 lands in one area ( connected plots) or purchase muliple t1 plots in different areas (diverse illuvial & blueprint)

Just to stretch my question further, was there a discussion where a certain area gets more of a resource type than another? Say crimsom waste area on average has more hydrogen elwment than silicon.

[mild ledge]

I watched a ton of videos but have not heard something like this mentioned anywhere

I myself will go for diversity and try to get land in multiple areas

[little moon]

Resources on the plot are random and not dictated by region. As far as im aware the only impact the region has is determining which Illuvials you are most likely to scan.

.

I heard you guys were looking for more stuff that could be earned through researching. Have you thought about having some special emotes that can only be obtained through land? They could be simple, like a hologram version of the Illuvial similar to how the statues look. If the research generated just an emote rather than an emote blueprint it could be a good way to pad out the rewards a bit. @cyan bone

[undone skiff]

Thank you guys for answering my questions. I will ask again if i need some clarifications. Have a good day

[mild ledge]

I have the feeling that skins will be integrated in multiple future titles within Illuvium and lands will probably be the source of blueprints for many of those

[cyan bone]

I’ll table the thought and see what Johnny and co think! Awesome

[opaque spindle]

12 days... Feels like forever!!!

[mild ledge]

In these market conditions it does feel like forever...

[whole spear]

Based Spartan

[tardy fern]

hire this man

[hearty cradle]

AFAIK :

• you can convert elements and fuels

• you can speed up the production of elements

• you cant speed up the production of fuels

• you can sell fuel

• you cant buy fuel for IZ

• you cant buy/sell elements

• you can transfer elements and fuels between lands in the same wallet

[thin wolf]

How long after landsale will ILZ beta go live?

[empty path]

Not set date, could be a month

[thin wolf]

Or it could be a week?

[hearty cradle]

couple of weeks to couple of months

[thin wolf]

Public beta had a tentative late Q2 launch?and ILZ is needed for the maingame.

The team has done an awesome job and built in record time,but i have a hard time seeing we will have a public beta launch in 1,5month..

[hearty cradle]

you mean open beta?
imo
PB2 is Q3
IZ alpha is Q3

Open Beta is Q4

[thin wolf]

Yeah Open beta,Q4 makes more sense and honestley i would not mind a Q4 launch

[ancient matrix]

PB2 dont have to be online for months

Other games let players play the beta version for 3 -7 days and not even 2 weeks later the game launches

PB2 and open beta both can take place in Q3

[rose maple]

Thinking of the default journey of the complete ILV n00b, when they see land marketing, then find PB1 high res vids on YouTube, I don't think any other land sale has had a working PB of such quality associated.

[spring jetty]

not too long ago Kieran said end of June, so let's see how that goes

[ancient matrix]

I hope he is still right 🙏

We don't need pb2 if they give us the open beta 😆

[thin wolf]

Kieran does not have a good track record with Dates😅i believe he have missed most if not all😂

[tardy fern]

Someone posted a timeline about what we could expect after the land sale but can't remember where I saw it

[spring jetty]

they promised a timeline, then there was one. but it was gone in a few day lol

[tardy fern]

Think the time frames were 4 weeks, then 10 weeks then 12 weeks for different stages for ILZ but can't remember what was at each stage

[tardy fern]

Ah that was probably the one I read, it was on the illuvium website pretty sure or someone from the team posted it on discord somewhere

[spring jetty]

i dont think the team knows when will things happen exactly, it's too hard to not have delays in the game industry

[tardy fern]

I think 4 weeks after land sale we could start building our bases but we wouldn't be able to collect anything to sell. After 4 weeks we could start collecting bp's and this stage would last for 10 weeks. The next stage lasted for 12 weeks but can't remember what that introduced. Pretty sure that was what I read either on the website or from something one if the team members posted in discord somewhere

[spring jetty]

i understand this fully but i still hope they can make miracles lol

[thin wolf]

They did update all the graphics for Zero which probably added a few months delay (well worth it)

[fair temple]

.5 You cant buy fuel for IZ
I thought you could buy fuel from other players in IZ. Just not increase your own production. Would be bad if your T1 plot needed the other 2 types of fuel and you wouldnt be able to get it otjer than send it from another one of your lands.

[tardy fern]

the chat seems like its getting quieter and quieter as we get closer to the land sale

it needs to be this hype @noble quest

maybe everyone is preparing themselves mentally for the land sale lol

https://tenor.com/view/meditation-hippie-patrick-patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-gif-5888486

[spring jetty]

people are quiet because the market is too bad rn

[tardy fern]

hopefully we get dirt cheap land since no one is paying attention

[stoic plank]

Land sale will break many...prepare for the bidding war spartans 😂😂😂

[spring jetty]

we are getting cheap land because we are in bear market and it's how it supposed to be lol

[storm crypt]

You consider this quiet? I think it is quiet active

[stoic plank]

Well considering how many silv2 has been bought and is prepared to be used

Do you really think we get cheap land?😅😅 i think people who wanted to buy will still buy no matter the market

[storm crypt]

I will buy at 0.5 ETH(in sILV2). What about you?

[stoic plank]

0.5 eth lvl 1?

[spring jetty]

all silv2 can buy out the entire batch of land at 22% of the full price

[storm crypt]

You can buy sILV2 for cheap $

[spring jetty]

i'd like to see people buy at high price, actually please do buy at high price

[stoic plank]

Yea i got 15 silv2 😅 I'm not a rich guy but what i had asside i wanna buy some land

[spring jetty]

15 silv2 should be 2 t1 or 1 t2 at least

[stoic plank]

More

[storm crypt]

Exactly.

[spring jetty]

lower tiers are probably gonna get sold relatively higher

[stoic plank]

Price is at 50% in 30 mins people won't buy that high through 3 days

[storm crypt]

I mean Tier 2 as well, if available 😉

[spring jetty]

i think people should wait 60 mins AT LEAST to buy any tier

[stoic plank]

It's a bear market in the end...everyone will try for a lower price. If it was a bull run i think everything would of sold at insanelly high prices

[potent dock]

I think some will sell before 60 mins, just because it's a decay curve. At 60 mins, land will only be 22%(ish) of the starting price. It hits half price at around 27 mins.

I think T1 in particular could be selling in the 40-60% range.

[lapis ledge]

What are your thoughts on T3s?

[spring jetty]

I agree, higher tiers are probably gonna decay longer. lower tiers are more affordable so people will buy them earlier

[potent dock]

Mostly that I hope I can afford one lol

[lapis ledge]

Oh mm. I meant what are your thoughts about at which price range do you think T3s will go for percentage wise?

[potent dock]

IMO the team has done a great job configuring the Fuel/Element sites across tiers with production boosts. There's no Tier I wouldn't be interested in if I could afford to buy it

[spring jetty]

not everyone bought silv2 for land, some are gonna flip it when it pumps to a high price

[potent dock]

I think we'll probably see the lowest percentage of starting prices on the highest tier land. There are numerically less buyers who can afford T3/T4 land (based on current sILV2 holdings), and so there's more agency for people who want those plots to be able to wait a bit for the price to decay.

A bunch of ETH in the mix throws that whole idea off though haha, we'll have to see what happens.

[lapis ledge]

Hopefully that's true. Just can't wait on the land sale and then open beta though. Really wanna do that exploration 😍

[spring jetty]

i also suspect that some of the biggest silv2 holders will sell silv2 at high price to bid on T5 lol

[raven kite]

I could not find a date when Illuvium Zero will be available to play after the land sale. Is this the point in the roadmap meant by mobile - 2023?

[empty path]

Probably about a month after the land sale

[raven kite]

kk - thx 🙂

[thin wolf]

i have a plan in place on what and how much i want to spend,but on the other side that just wants any land for the sake of being part of "it" and get in at the start will probabley win and all logic will go out the window

[empty path]

Thanks Aaron

Also can't use the huge tiktalik here 😦

You sure do make it look like one

I became mod after the bots arrived if that's what you are trying to imply 😏

https://tenor.com/view/cool-gif-9471604

[cyan bone]

The team are super excited about the new assets being provided by Dmitriy and Kantemir and we’re working on implementing currently.

Eta is closer to 3-4 weeks as we’re swapping in the new assets vs implementing from scratch.

Excited to share some gameplay that includes the new regions, plant, vfx structures etc

Personally I’m buying land in Brightland Steppes, the region is beautiful and bright

[empty path]

No land for Fraggy

[cyan bone]

The region you buy land in will translate to the region assets you’ll play with in Illuvium Zero

Each region has unique assets, shadows, lighting, plants, decorations, music and sfx

[spring jetty]

noooo, you need to buy all the land so i can rent from you

[empty path]

I'm hoping to build on somebody elses land myself

[cyan bone]

Depends what your aim is, we will release some info about mega-cities in the coming days also which may be of interest (rewards buying plots nearby one another)

[spring jetty]

what happened to your 13 silv2

[empty path]

Sold it to order a screen with my new computer

Now we pray we find a whale who will let me play

[spring jetty]

make sure you refer me as well, i can manage many lands

[empty path]

It's hard to be an apple fan girl

You can say woman

Well I ordered it, it's like 10 weeks delivery

Good thing nobody asked you

[spring jetty]

apple isnt very good for gaming

[empty path]

But I'll see everything you spammers do here

But that's not the screen I wanted

Looks are important, but you wouldn't understand

Have a nice day SM, I'm off for a few hours

[bitter glade]

Internally we have to put pants on to Illuvials because otherwise the server bans them as nakey. I kid you not. We literally paint over them from time to time.

[tardy fern]

Lmao imagine

[bitter glade]

The video of the overworld will certainly get some people tingly...

[spring jetty]

wen!! 👀

[thin wolf]

At what point in time will we be able to have a gander on this visual epicness?

https://tenor.com/view/when-wen-naru-yummi-yummi-universe-gif-23030317

[bitter glade]

About the same time that we drop the video, give or take your latency and reaction times.

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[rose maple]

There is only one thing left to do, move closer to your local internet exchange.

[marsh sage]

Be respectful sir. I am in public and there are children around!

[noble drum]

Is the start land sale price in Silv2 already set or Will it be determined on the day of the land sale based on the price of ILV that day? (I know the start price in ETH is already official). So I guess specifically when does the ETH/ILV ratio get locked in. Or is it already

[blazing ferry]

real-time

[bitter glade]

Or git gud.

[bitter glade]

We use an oracle. Whatever ILV price is, that’s what sILV2 is worth. Then we use that to make it equal to ETH.

[blazing ferry]

*sILV2 😉

[coral tree]

What are people thinking for the value of land regions? Do you all think some regions will be worth more than others? Why?

I was just thinking of buying land in the region where I think the photos of the area look the nicest.... then I could go find my plot and camp out.....

[limpid terrace]

I imagine all land regions will probably be pretty similar in value. I'm sure there will be a slight difference based purely on some people's preference, but I don't see it making a huge impact on overall pricing within the tiers

I'm more interested to think at what percent of the start price are people valuing the land at

because that's a good gauge on how long each tier will actually be available for auction

[coral tree]

I was thinking some regions have different resources and some resources will be worth more than others.... just not sure which ones...

[limpid terrace]

That is true. Too bad nobody really knows which resources might or might not be more valuable haha.

Well, outside of devs I guess

But, Fuel is the main resource for generating income, so based on that, each region should be equal value

I think it's also going to largely come down to the elements that are randomly generated on the land you end up with as well, but that's just changing the value after you already own it

[coral tree]

yeah...true... I think some of the other resources upgrade weapons, armor etc.... might be worth more, not sure.

[limpid terrace]

For the most part, it's all just wait and see haha. my plan is to buy a plot and hope that I get lucky with the resources available on the land

[hearty cradle]

i wan kiyosaki

andrew promised me kiyosaki

[thorny crater]

We need to resister for sell?

How is everyone preparing, should we send over eth to or immutable wallets?

Last question.
Can I connect my phone to my land to play the game if I do not have my wallet on my phone?
-these phones get hacked to much

[hearty cradle]

more details coming

usually you connect your wallet on the official website, and you only need to use your game account on your phone

[crisp badge]

So no advantage to buying in silv

[blazing ferry]

I wouldn't say that. ATM you can buy sILV2 for around .089 ETH, but if the auction were right now that would get you the buying power of ILV, which is around .148 ETH

of course all the token prices could be massively different nearly 2 weeks from now, so be careful

[shell rose]

We can chat after the sale 🙂

[empty path]

Perfect

[shell rose]

Anyone have a chart of which region contains which affinities?

[empty path]

You can see some info about it on the website

[oak solstice]

Yeah the closer sILV2 gets to ILV the more people will probably take sILV rewards and sell them so price could go any direction till land sale lol

[shell rose]

In the dev blog it says for zero: ‘Alpha release in May all Core Features and Assets.’ I thought originally alpha for ILZ was for all landholders, so this suggests it’ll be ready as soon as the sale is over, not a few weeks later?

[crisp badge]

I think Silv purchases will buy early in the DA and ETH buyers come in at around 45 or 30 minutes

[blazing ferry]

Interesting thought, I hadn't considered when people will buy with sILV2 vs ETH, but I suppose sILV2 may be willing to pay a bit more like you say since they could get that extra buying power. Then again there could be some last minute ETH fomo out there...

[blazing ferry]

That was the plan, more recently they've decided to revamp all the graphics though and pushed it back a bit

[neat condor]

What is sILV2 vs ILV?

[shell rose]

ILV = the game’s governance token basically. By staking it you get revenue distribution from the game. SILV2 = price is tied to ILV. This is a token that is used for in game transactions (alternative to ETH). There are some more complex tokenomics you can read about, but when you use SILV2 you burn ILV basically.

[blazing ferry]

This helps: #💬〕general message

[west orbit]

Anyone have a list of regions with associated illuvials for land sale purposes?

[blazing ferry]

check out the website! new land info just this week

[queen folio]

The Land section of the Illuvium website shows the 7 Regions along with some of the common Illuvials within each region. Outside of that, I don't have an extensive list... I've just been piecing together where certain illuvials might be found 🙂 https://www.illuvium.io/land

[west orbit]

Awesome thanks team! ^^

[thorny crater]

This is super important for me.

If I have to put my wallet on my phone I’ll just not buy land. Not worth that hacking of my phone.

[shell rose]

I may be crazy but I don’t see that info anywhere on the land site

[cyan bone]

Illuvium.io/land check the region map and select a region for some info!

[queen folio]

Yeahh looks like this! And you can click on the regions

[cyan bone]

Sharing a leak here as this was quite important to me personally - these are the different regions and the corresponding environment textures in Illuvium Zero!

Each land plot will have region specific structures, lighting, shadows and music.

I’ll be buying land in Brightland Steppes and Crystal Shores 👀

[solar topaz]

why is Halycon Sea White?

[fair temple]

Im thinking abyssal basin actually :D i love the forest!

[thin wolf]

sea foam

[fair temple]

It is purely white because the corals are massive and created enormous amounts of calcium carbonate in their skeletons. Some died and were eroded by the sea. Now you walk on the white calcified beaches that are the remains of the corals :]
(Not official lore but would be pretty logical from a biological standpoint xD)

[humble lichen]

https://infoluvial.io/regions/ gathered all the leaks into 1 place

(Big fan of Crystal Shores)

And Halcyon Sea

[thin wolf]

or sea foam?

[fair temple]

Possible... 🤔

[queen folio]

I was thinking white sands--- like a beach!

[thin wolf]

but highly unlikely😂

[oak ruin]

Halycon sea is going to hurt people's eyes playing the game!

Crystal shoes: "Some of the most strange Illuvials live here."
I wonder how these guy's blueprints might look awesome hehe

[tardy fern]

Less competition to catch those illuvials lol

Should say something like "enter at your own risk, sunglasses are strongly advised"

[shell rose]

Ah, must not work on mobile, heads up!

[hearty cradle]

you can ping one of IZ team to clarify

[undone skiff]

This is one of my worries too.

But, if you check the leaks. Illuvium zero's log in page does not have a connect wallet option. So im hopeful that i can play iz without my trezor

[cyan bone]

Yep, iPad and Desktop only for the modal pop-ups!

[thorny crater]

Which one is plant based again?

[lusty crag]

Do I understand it correctly when I assume out of doing some research that I can send resources in between my own lands … so for example that somebody owns a T4 & T1 and he will be able to send needed resources from his T4 to his T1 land … and would that also count in case his lands are in different regions?

[karmic imp]

TEST

[undone skiff]

i believe you can transfer resources from one land to another. but the specifics on how that works is vague at the moment.

You could watch this interview if you want to learn more about in game mechanics

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-q5PLcYCthQ

[coral tree]

Haha I feel like the question should be why is the font white… it should def. Be black

[wise widget]

Kieran just tweeted that there's an article coming out next week re IZ

Looking forward to finding out some more info about all these little details.

[long tendon]

Should be @vapid bough article on land.

[empty path]

Yay

[half turtle]

perhaps charcoal gry ; but its a nice graphic nonetheless! And yes could def be beach foam

[hardy brook]

Say I buy a T2 land, can I play a free T2 version as well as I may want to play around with it in order to optimise without financial consequence.

Or are we only getting a free T4 version that's f2p?

[lofty bramble]

Excited for the 10 day countdown to begin

[velvet ember]

Imaging ur just counting hours. 😳

[lofty bramble]

One could say I'm fizzing for it

[tardy fern]

idk how your gonna do it but on the last day it needs to be the most hyped gif you can find 😆 that dancing ape one is hard to beat imo

[lyric belfry]

Land sale: wasn't sure if this was the correct place to ask, but land sale available quantity isn't limited based on purchasing with sILV2 or ETH right? You can buy as much land as you want in whichever denomination as long as you have enough ?

[fair temple]

Yes you can buy as much as you want if you have the funds👍

[slow lily]

The fuel produced by the land at what prices will it be possible to sell? Is it already known? I want to calculate after what time my investment in land will pay off.

[fair temple]

There are no numbers out there. All we know is that 5% value of in-game purchases will go to land owners.
So you cóuld calculate the revenue based on the percentage of fuel you make out of the entire pile of lands, and then multiply that by yearly speculated revenue. In no way will that paint an accurate picture though 👍

[lyric belfry]

actually this is what i am curious about, can you buy land POST dutch auction land sale with sILV2?

[fair temple]

No. sILV2 can only be used to buy things from the DAO. But you could do unofficial trades with people if you really wanted to.

[indigo tree]

does anyone know when will tier 2 - 5 land be available ?

[fair temple]

Tier 1-4 land will be sold on 2d of june to the 5th of june in the form of a dutch auction. (check out #📰〕governance-news IIP20)

Tier 5 land will be sold during the sale as a separate event through an english auction. Prices have been speculated to go in the million(s).

[indigo tree]

ah i thought it was tier 1 only on the 2nd, thanks for the update

one more stupid question, do we have to use the wallet we staked with? I would rather use my Trezor address for the land sale

[fair temple]

You will need to use the wallet that has Eth or sILV2 to buy land. Staking has nothing to do with it

[lofty bramble]

Any news yet on the T5 auction? It's got to be within the next 10-12 days or so but we haven't heard anything. Thought they'd be hyping it up marketing wise

[fair temple]

I dont know :) tbf i dont have instagram and Tiktok so i miss out on Illuvium updates there. I know they are promoting illuvium on tiktok now and they made a youtube clips channel.
Furthermore I think they are pushing it towards the community content creators, but we dont have those 10M subscriber youtubers yet who will bring the message to a real deal of people.

They might wait for the document that Lucius is writing to show up. Once they have a good foundation of information then they can actually promote something tangible :)

[fair temple]

Lets goooo

[thin wolf]

Metamask mobile is set up and filled with some Eth for gas, will be at work during the first 6 hours of the sale...

[thick nebula]

when is land sale

[lofty bramble]

Thanks for the write up! Makes sense

[solar topaz]

does anyone know whether sILV2 used in the sale will instantly be burned? (as opposed to transferred to some address and burned later)

well, the question is whether we could see sILV supply real-time eg on Etherscan during the sale. That might be interesting.

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/gifsoup-funny-dance-party-dance-off-dance-gif-16552827

couldnt handle it

[vivid knot]

In regards to land. I have some ETH, I feel like it’s more beneficial for me to swap my ETH on Uniswap for sILV, as my sILV is valued higher then the same amount in ETH on the Iluvium website.

For example my 2 ETH is worth $3914USD, but if I trade 2 ETH on uniswap I would get 21 sILV which is worth $6363 on Iluviums website/market

[vivid knot]

I feel like people shouldn’t be able to do this, makes it less fair for stakers

Stakers wanting to buy land from their rewards sorry*

Yeah this is true, it’ll just mean people wanting to buy using ETH have the option to buy land for less through this route

I just don’t know why you would even use ETH to buy land if this is the case is what I’m saying

[tardy fern]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-flintstone-the-flintstones-kissing-money-bag-of-cash-kiss-dollars-gif-23200951

the crazy thing is, it's probably gonna happen twice depending what the time frame is between land sale and illuvitars

after land sale if sILV2 cant be used, price will lose its peg to ILV and then leading upto illuvitars, will probably moon again in terms of sILV2/eth or sILV2/ILV

what a time to accumulate more eth or ilv with silv2 lol

[vivid knot]

You’d think it should stay pegged to ETH if that’s the other token being used alongside it in Illuvium transactions

You going to buy land with sILV and then any left over exit?

[quick flower]

why not using the remaining sILV2 for Illuvitar?

fair enough. I will just grab a cheap one cuz they look nice 😄

yeah true. Illuvitars will mostly for fun, hype, and something represent the community. I won't sweat and spend much on Illuvitars either.

lol imagine?

[minor pendant]

Noob question - OGs buying land with sILV instead of ETH? That’s the more bang for your buck play? I have zero sILV2 but have ETH to use - is there a disadvantage here?

[heady dew]

aslong as silv2 price is lower than ilv, then yes

[minor pendant]

Where do I find the sILV2 price?

[heady dew]

200 or so atm
u can see it on dextools

[minor pendant]

Got it. And is it a straight swap or do you need to get in a pool?

[heady dew]

u can just swap

[minor pendant]

Thanks bro

[gritty chasm]

How much is the DA starting from?
And which coins are used? Just silv2 or eth?

And how do i get some silv2?

[faint nexus]

dextools bro

[empty path]

Check the pinned messages for prices. T1-4 can be purchased with sILV2 or ETH. For T5 you can only use ETH.

[gritty chasm]

Yeah i saw. T5 for 2500 eth?

[empty path]

It's an Auction, we don't know how much people are going to bid on it.

[gritty chasm]

Silv2 contract address?

[empty path]

!contract

[dry forge]

ILV Token: 0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
ETH/ILV SLP Token: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda
sILV2 Token: 0x7E77dCb127F99ECe88230a64Db8d595F31F1b068

[gritty chasm]

Thankss.

[minor pendant]

So I figure most people here buying land with SILV2 (T1-T4) then?

[empty path]

There is not enough sILV2 to buy all the plots. I'm sure people are also saving up some sILV2 to use in the Illuvatar sale and to play the game

[minor pendant]

Hmm so there is a risk you won’t be able to purchase Vs. using ETH which will be unlimited? Is that right? Does this mean folks with sILV2 are inclined to purchase earlier in the dutch auction? 🫤?

[quasi canyon]

I was mad i missed the bottom for silv2 price and after watching it jump again im glad i pulled the trigger yesterday

[simple juniper]

its going to keep rising til it is almost matched with ILV

[minor pendant]

So best to stack sILV2 at this rate right now then?

[simple juniper]

WEll NFA but that just my take on it

[coral tree]

What’s sILV2 current price?

[trim otter]

I am showing $193

[trim otter]

True. The closer we get to Utility the closer they become.

[coral tree]

Thanks! I bought at $190… long as it’s close to there I’m happy

[ancient panther]

Im sure its in here somewhere but do we have idea of when the land sale is going to take place?

[vapid bough]

June 2nd

[ancient panther]

Is there a website link yet for it? I know Danny had sent me a list of the 5 tiers and their starting prices..but thats all I have...

[vapid bough]

There is a land page on our website with some basic details. There will be a comprehensive land sale article and some other things published soon as well. Go to #🔗〕helpful-links > official website > exchange > land

[ancient panther]

Thanks!

[agile sigil]

At current prices, what you guys think tier 2 Will go for in sILV2? 16-20?

[buoyant notch]

Hello. I would like to buy land. I don`t have sILV2. Am i right that for me no difference will I buy ETH or sILV2 for buying land?

[umbral hull]

Exchanging for sILV2 and buying land with it will result in a discount.

[buoyant notch]

Thanks, will now google how to buy sILV2.

[umbral hull]

Uniswap :) Careful of fake links. And careful of fake sILV2 tokens. Get the contract address from the pins on this discord.

[quasi canyon]

At current prices, if you get a tier 2 at 60% start price it would be 24.5 silv2

[agile sigil]

thanks for answear

[buoyant notch]

so it about 40% discount in sILV2? am I right?

I`m using this for calculating: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18u7qTwcm7EJNt0sW3YrZ19-W0U8-ta5uTMBpz9LzEAI/edit#gid=1624078536

[quasi canyon]

The discount is just the difference between silv2 price and ilv price

[buoyant notch]

sILV2 - ~185$, ILV - 295$. 110$ difference?

[quasi canyon]

Yup theres your discount

[buoyant notch]

Thanks a lot for answering dump questions!

[hollow shoal]

So what region is everyone going for? 😮

[west orbit]

Halcyon sea!

[hollow shoal]

How come? 😮

[shell rose]

Waiting for more info to drop first here 🙂

[hollow shoal]

We got the commons listed so that’s a start. I am praying for a T2 but I might not be able to this time around haha

[minor pendant]

If you are selling fuel, does anybody know, will it just work like a marketplace - I.e you set your price and someone has to purchase at your price or will it be where the price is set and it’s an immediate reimbursement based off a “standard” market price for fuel?

[shell rose]

I want to know where most affinities are ‘heavy’ in each of the regions. I’m hoping we will learn that

[west orbit]

Getting them water illuvial blueprints baby!!

[west orbit]

What about you?

[hollow shoal]

Crimson waste and Abyssal basin for their illuvials! I just hope I can get one T2 or two T1s

[analog inlet]

No one actually sells fuel to another person.
Detailed explanation here. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[astral tapir]

thoughts on overall profitability (land v ILV as an investment and land V ILV for rev dis)
also thoughts on most bang for your buck ie). say you spend 20 ETH on tier 3 v 20 ETH on tier 1

[west orbit]

That’s my plan for tiers as well lol, looking for a T2 and a T1

[hollow shoal]

Just got into StepN and will probably use it to earn more money for the next land sale. Will use it to buy a T2

[hard shore]

When is the land sale?

[analog inlet]

answered in general plase don't multi post questions also see watch #📣〕announcements for important info

[tranquil python]

2 Jun

[low geode]

https://tenor.com/view/two-weeks-happy-dance-gif-18982959

[hearty cradle]

people lost their assets, among other problem

stepn is a sht show

[hollow shoal]

I haven’t had an issue yet. I know there was around 116 people that had issues. They have had their stuff returned.

[tardy fern]

heard it was a rug

[iron laurel]

As it stands now, Brightland Steppes is my main pick.

[quick flower]

Does Stepn have the same AXS-SLP tokenomics like Axie?

[hearty cradle]

yes 100% pyramid scheme

and guess who is one of the advisors

our own santiago

[quick flower]

How do people still invest in that kind of tokenomics :/ Just look at Axie and Thetan smh.
I didn't know Santiago was involved, kind of a bummer

[karmic imp]

AYOOO TEST

[high sleet]

come to hang here

Yes STEPN has ponzinomics but it still has some differences that should be factored in. No scholarships, an actual use of effort (walking) which helps prevent botting, a gated entry system. It applies to every able-bodied human on the planet, given its not game related. So what I am saying is it will last longer hahahah, as for santiago investing, its most genius economics are that the game feeds the bags of GMT holders, so any investors are actually gonna win

[cyan bone]

It's a beast of an article - and won't be far away!

[high sleet]

im excited, how u going nick?

[cyan bone]

Good dude, flat out! 🐎

I'm sure you're the same, the YouTube vids have been epic - cheeky run and a Scoriox vid this morning ha

[high sleet]

Hahahaha thats super flattering I appreciate that. Yeah this week is the first week where I havent actually got a plan for the vids this week... Im thinking my dca vid, maybe my first game deep dive (empath synergy). And then probably a land regions vid to hopefully close out the week, was just waiting for the rest of those articles

[hearty cradle]

why u shilling a pyramid scheme

[high sleet]

Did you read my message? I agreed with you? I just said itll last longer than axie

[hearty cradle]

😂

they call "scholarship" as "rent"

[high sleet]

oh yeah I didnt finish that bit, as soon as rentals come out it will collapse

[hearty cradle]

we will see people jogging with multiple phones on their body
and the gated entry system is to delay the implosion

[high sleet]

I agree with every statement hahahah, but thats what I said, it'll just last longer

[hearty cradle]

i was lucky to get a verification code from a member in this server tho
i did buy a few joggers

[high sleet]

I actually lost a tonne on stepn tbh, im definitely not advocating

Did I leverage the hype to get my first 25k view video, mayhaps

[hearty cradle]

i was planning to lose some weight, i thought if i spent a few $Ks on a running app it will incentive me to actually exercise

i used the app once, and thats it, never looked back

walking is too hard

[high sleet]

havent walked in a week

[vivid cipher]

Maybe move #799010390201466880 sooner next time

[high sleet]

hows it goin, any great land q's goin around?

[vivid cipher]

I had a great weekend. No questions but the same old ones. It should be pretty good to go

[high sleet]

awesome sounds good

[dire tiger]

any idea when land sales demo or example videos will be released?

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-gif-19121692

[dire tiger]

looking forward to it

i hope gas will be as low as these past few days when the land sales come.

[empty path]

That would be pretty awesome

[slow cedar]

Being back single digit gas please!

I seem to be mentally yoyoing between 20k being a lot of plots and that a lot of plots will go for a low value, and the demand for a good crypto game and that a lot of lands will sell at 50%+ of starting price... I can't figure it out

[lapis ledge]

Are elements generated from Land able to be sold in the Illuvidex?

[small pier]

Ooooo. Scoriox

[high sleet]

sup fam

[small pier]

Sup, I’m guessing how many pieces of lands you gonna be bidding for. Like.. 3 T1s? 3 T2s? 3 T3s?

[small pier]

Nice video with Deraji and TSG too. You guys make Deraji look kinda ancient out there

[lapis ledge]

Asking because there might be element demand for holders of multiple T1s that can't generate enough elements for both fuel production and research, but still profitable enough to buy elements from the Illuvidex generated by others.

[muted tree]

Some mistakes were fixed on the land map (Foeli->Flare, Balae->Fern), but Goliant and Scarabok are still in different regions, so is this expected as correct info?

[high sleet]

Oh I have like 15 sILV2 lmao. So a T2 if I'm lucky

[cyan bone]

Halcyon Sea with updated structure assets - final finesse in progress

[empty path]

o m g

[cyan bone]

Scattered structures for test purposes only - my land will be well planned in the future 😉

This shot is with the different modes (efficiency, resources etc.) toggled off - with the efficiency indicators toggled on your land becomes a glowing futuristic sci-fi machine paradise

[empty path]

FYI I'm stealing this to throw on the tweeter