🎮〕illuvium-zero

[sage abyss]

I can't log into immutable network, so I can't log into Illuvium, it's only me? I do not get the code in the email. It stopped working out of the blue!?

[willow geyser]

Hello everyone. Is this the testplot? I finally see a plot appearing after weeks. Can I play now?

[torpid relic]

Yeah you can play the simulation plot.

[twin sequoia]

No, it should work as always. The assets were migrated from chain, but the login function remains the same. Try to login first in the passport account (even in a private window or a different browser) and then in Illuvidex before launching the game.

Login in private or a different browser is just to test it works in your computer. To login in the game you should login to Illuvidex in your default browser.

[terse ibex]

What is the purpose of the fuel burn feature?

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[drifting shoal]

Is there a cap to the number of "biodata" you can find? Not in reference to the data banks but as to scanning per plot. I've been scanning every day and haven't gotten any new bio data in months.

[twin sequoia]

There are 130 biodata, as much as Illuvials. You can get lots of BP per Biodata, but only 1 biodata per Illuvial

[autumn elbow]

Can you still earn with ill zero ?

Or not anymore ?

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[upbeat flume]

I've become a millionaire with illuvium zero

[sage abyss]

I'm not receiving the Passport OTP at my ethermail (dot) io address. I've already checked filters and shields. I think the domain is blocked by the server. Can a mod help?

[pearl dust]

The passport otp is sent to your email address connected to the passport. You would have entered your email when you created you passport address

[sage abyss]

@pearl dust I know that and it did work just fine up until a few days ago. But apparently they are blocking the ethermail domain entirely and thus preventing me from accessing my game assets. How to address that?

[twin sequoia]

Open a support request with immutable if they are blocking that domain, quite weird

[sage abyss]

Thanks, I did just that: TKT-556428 - let's see, but its a shame that we have to rely on those people in order to play a crypto that should be decentralized, by principle.

[subtle frost]

I am just playing zero what is happening with our blueprints? I can't access them

do Ineed to do anything

[twin sequoia]

What are you trying to do with the BP in Zero? You can only mint them if you want to.

[past kindle]

blueprints are there, there is now online and offline versions... im trying to understand the transponder now, it only has a slection for morphopods

[past kindle]

might be inbetween spam protection.. they might have to setup something in their server architexture to verify and let it thru, google etc is the likely culprit, i believe the technical term is spf

[sage abyss]

@FlipMyNFT Exactly, it’s likely an SPF/DMARC or Auth0 gateway block. But that’s precisely the problem: we are fighting legacy Web2 protocols to access Web3 assets. It’s a massive irony and a single point of failure for the entire community.

By relying solely on email OTPs, we are basically handing the keys of our "decentralized" castle to a centralized middleman. If a server goes down or a domain is flagged, we are locked out of our own property. This isn't true self-custody. Today it’s my ethermail address, but tomorrow it could be any of you if Google or Apple decides to change their terms or if a server glitched.

[subtle frost]

I don't know I just want to make sure I am not missing anything that Ineed to do that I won't be able to do in the future.

sometimes there are limited time things or the game moved to another place or something.. I am just playing and I see things are locked

[radiant sky]

https://portal.illuvium.io/help-center/guides/illuvium-zero-blueprints-on-zkevm

[twin sequoia]

Ok. In the future they will be also used for Zero ingame missions (Sanctum Mesa requests), so you have to decide between using it for one or another. But we don´t know more about it.

[radiant coral]

Can a bulk account be sold? Or do people here usually sell all the items separately?

[serene iris]

Hi guys, I've completely ignored the new blueprint minting system as it seems pretty irrelevant right now. I do have questions tho as I'd like to understand the new system!

When you research a bio data it now says you convert a bio data into a blue print!

Does this mean you now loose the bio data and have to scan for it again?

[nova hull]

When we scan and find illuvials, why can't these illuvials be actual marketplace TPI illuvials? Is that a hard fix? Can you turn the scanner system into a verison of Auto Drone Run and just catch actual illuvials?

[subtle frost]

I didn't do anything how come I have some of my blue prints on chain

[nova hull]

You can make a deal with someone and transfer bulk

[subtle frost]

seems like all land get the same amount and same types on chain LOL so these eventually will be used and consumed and then we have to find them again?

can you even find biodata anymore now?

[twin sequoia]

No, Biodata is never consumed. You can delete it but once it discovered, it is forever. The BP is consumed if you mint it.

[twin sequoia]

You don´t find Illuvials, you find biodata from Illuvials to research BP. Illuvials are only discovered with Automatic drones runes (and before in overworld, that is now closed)

[twin sequoia]

Ther eis a bug where sometimes offchain biodata is also shown as onchain, but you cannot sell or use them. A bug is coming.

[serene iris]

Cool thanks, and the max number of biodata is 130 right?

So we can delete some of our storage now?

[twin sequoia]

BP are account wide now.

[twin sequoia]

Of course, as always. Biodata are per plot. BP are per account.

[fossil galleon]

These look like the bonus T1 BPs from the IZ alpha phase. They were minted on chain and sent to us way back.

[drifting shoal]

Oh I hit 130 what does the BP do for me?

[nova hull]

Yes, I’ve caught a lot of biodata that is meaningless now? Can illuvium team convert the biodata to illuvials and make the scanner similar to “auto drone run”? Make it take 5 days wait time in game but catch actual tradable illuvials?

[trim plume]

so how can we earn here ?

[radiant coral]

Thanks

[vivid cipher]

Read this #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[twin sequoia]

Don´t ask what BP do for you but, what can you do for BP!! you have a guide pinned

[past kindle]

i look in news, i see no zero post... where is the info on Zero blueprint changes and whatever else patch did

[twin sequoia]

You should look better 🙂 #📣〕announcements message: https://portal.illuvium.io/help-center/guides/illuvium-zero-blueprints-on-zkevm

[past kindle]

strange, cuz like im on the portal now and the last post was oct 2025

[twin sequoia]

The news section is worthless, at leas for Zero. I already reported it.

[past kindle]

yeah the help center was erroring, it was in there... works now

[subtle frost]

By the way should I still but. Fuel to get ETH?

I don’t want to waste what I gathered. I just gathered when I have time every day or other day

Any suggestions?

I am not really competing just chilling and collecting

[twin sequoia]

You should always that your storage is full. And now it is a good month anyway, until June, as wave 5 of Beyond is making good revenue

[twin sequoia]

We are no longer competing. Production LB closed long ago.

[subtle frost]

yeah it's okay thnaks..but we split based on the amount we burn right per account

[vivid cipher]

Yes

[untold vortex]

How do you own land

[twin sequoia]

You must buy it in Illuvidex https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/trading/zero?layout=list&catalogue=Land&currency=ETH. Or get a deal wit an owner (like me 😉 or any other). You also have channel https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/832955966031003758 to see plots but it is in slowmode and you can post only once each 6h.

[woven tangle]

I keep forgetting to burn fuel lol

[twin sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-the-grey-lord-of-the-rings-ian-mckellen-mines-of-moria-fellowship-of-the-ring-gif-24036179

You shall not burn!!!🤣

[bronze ice]

Mp

[lyric hamlet]

How can I sell my lands?

[serene iris]

As long as they are on your passport wallet you can just list/sell them on the illuvidex.

[past kindle]

list them for sale on flipmynft dot gg via our wallet manager, using your passport, note, images are erroring for illuvium, its a bug on their CDN

[lyric lodge]

buy it on ilvuim dex

[wide bobcat]

hi guys, why there are onchain and offchain blueprints? how to sync them?

[twin sequoia]

Offchain Blueprints are the one discovered by the research lab. Onchain are the Blueprints minted. Only that there is a bug so some offchain BP are also shown as onchain, we have been waiting for the patch to fix it for a pair of weeks now.

[tough field]

On the new “sanctum mesa request” loop, in order to craft skin, the player needs one chain blueprint, and the IL Zero player mints those blueprints, right?

Question 1: what happens to the players that can’t play overword?
Question 2: who receives the new 2% share of the fuel revenue? The player that crafted the skin or the player that minted the Blueprint?

[subtle frost]

by the way why are the pros and cons when minting these blue print? can you just mint blue prints once only? Should I just keep them as blue prints? in the game?

[twin sequoia]

It is not that way 😉 . The sanctum mesa requests are not for crafting skins, they will be missions for zero to burn BP and get that 2% share of fuel revenue. BP can also be minted, so they are converted to onchain and be tradeable. The skins were crafted from OW but, as it was closed, now they cannot be crafted. At least until MMO is released (and we don´t really know what will be done at the end with skins system).

[twin sequoia]

Yes, now offchain BP are consumable on minting. Do what you want, there is no final use for them right now. There will be in the future

[bronze ice]

How to sell your fuel I don't understand?

[vivid cipher]

Read this. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

and then check this. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[oblique oasis]

That is not working?

[radiant sky]

Yes

[oblique oasis]

If it works oh there are no events now

[twin sequoia]

That menu was for the old production leaderboard, that was discontinued.

[oblique oasis]

Ooooh ok thanks 🙏

[oblique oasis]

Do you know where I see the new system?

[twin sequoia]

There is no new system. Production Leaderboard is gone. You can only check "Fuel Burn" Leaderboard, as all LB, at https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/leaderboard/fuel-burn

[oblique oasis]

Oooh thank you very much for explaining to me is that I stopped playing for a while

[viscid bolt]

where does the eth come from that the fuel burning rewards earns?

[radiant sky]

revenue

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[viscid bolt]

Thank you. What are the digital products illuvium is currently making money off of? There was the illuvium game (exploring a world and capturing illuvials or something like that), is that still going and making money? I didn't keep up with it as they stopped supporting Mac.

[radiant sky]

no, overworld has been taken offline until the mmo is ready to go live

[viscid bolt]

Is there an ETA on the overworld going live again?

[radiant sky]

december

[coarse tide]

Hi guys, just out of curiosity, went on to look at land and for some reason I can't seem to search by the price. Am I missing something?

[twin sequoia]

You must select first a tier and the you have the filters to order by price.

[coarse tide]

Got it, thanks Sergio, I can see you are selling at the floor price 🙂

[lyric lodge]

whats the actual future of zero, its incredibly boring atm tbh

[lyric lodge]

is that for full release ?

[radiant sky]

not sure what you mean with full release.
It's said it goes live then... but obviously not a finished product.

[coarse tide]

I believe they were looking at adding a couple more extra features, such as a gym. It does need a little bit more, at the very least a bit of monetization would be good but something a bit more to get your teeth into would be good.

On a different note for people playing the game, I'd love to see some examples of some top-level lands to try and work out exactly how many power stations are needed. As I have a lot, I maybe need to reduce them as I'm at a point of levelling most up to level seven so I can probably look at really cutting some back

[twin sequoia]

It is expected to have gyms, but we don´t know when. As well as a dedicated building to link with fusion in MMO, but this was an idea in a Town Hall and we still don´t really know if it will a reality.

We will have soon "Sanctum Mesa requests", missions for zero with a new building, to compete for revdiv burning BP, until BP market is strong enough (probably not until MMO is launched) so a share of revdivs is not needed to make it a source of income for Zero owners.

We expected a patch some weeks ago to fix things but we still now nothing new about it. I guess sanctum mesa request will be launched with it soon, or at least we will know something more precise about the new system design for BP/skins

[upbeat flume]

I have my land listed below the floor price, but it doesn't show up on the marketplace. I am essentially shadowbanned from selling at the marketprice.

[foggy bison]

I see them just fine

[upbeat flume]

Can you screenshot? How come it doesn't show up for me (as shown in the pic)?

[upbeat flume]

Perhaps you misunderstood me, your screenshot just confirms what I said: My listing doesn't show up

[foggy bison]

I thought the first three were yours

What are your asset numbers?

[upbeat flume]

I am not sure what you mean by 'asset numbers'.
The second pic shows my item. As the pic shows it is listed below the floor price.

[twin sequoia]

the number of the plot #36538

[twin sequoia]

It sometimes happens. Within the NFT you can see it listed but it is not in the "general" list. Just unlist and list it again until it is shown in the "general" list.

[foggy bison]

Sorry for the confusion. No, I can't find that listing in Tier 3.

[upbeat flume]

I tried this 10+ times. Over multiple days with multiple computer/browser resets

[upbeat flume]

No problem, at least you, as an independent, confirmed the issue I'm having

[twin sequoia]

Yes, it also happen to me sometimes. Very low % indeed, if we take into account all that I´ve listed 😂 . But I don´t need to relist more than 3 or 4 times in the worst case.

[upbeat flume]

I hear you loud and clear, and thank you for the answer. However, given my issue is not solved that way, and it persists for weeks:
Illuvium team please help.

[simple lance]

does anyone know if the zero leaderboard is acutually paying rewards each week?

[serene iris]

If you burn fuel you get eth yes

[simple lance]

thanks, is that from the leaderboard or just from burning the fuel

[serene iris]

There is no rewards for leaderboard position, you just get a percentage of the weekly income based on how much you burn

[simple lance]

thanks that's what I thought but there is a leaderboard and it says it pays out so it's a little confusing. maybe it used to pay out and they stopped but just left the leaderboard up there

[serene iris]

There used to be 2... I think they removed the extra one tho

[twin sequoia]

The reward in the leaderboard is the actual reward for burning fuel. It is updated in real time. The weekly reward is 5% of revenue. It is distributed as per the share of each account (no plots alone) in the total burn fuel.

Share is calculated to the 5th decimal position, you can check it from inside the game

[vivid cipher]

Have you used the help button to report the issue? Look for the (?) in the bottom right of the IlluviDex

[simple lance]

Thanks, that's pretty clear now. My reward is the percentage I get of the 5%, it's just shown as a leaderboard. And the real time update explains why the reward has been going up a little each day. 🤯 If my math is right and the reward reaches .2eth, that represents 5% of about 4eth of revenue for the week. A little more than I thought the game was pulling in.

[amber hamlet]

Does anyone know the link for claiming rewards for burning fuel?

[radiant sky]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/rewards

[upbeat flume]

Yes I have. I reported the issue a month+ ago. I've exchanged 10+ emails, and every time I get a 'team is on it' message.
I am individually targeted and prevented from exiting. This is pure theft.

[plain briar]

Sorry for laughing but I like your humor

[upbeat flume]

You have the right to laugh at me all you want, I'm cool with that, I prefer people having a good time.
However, there is 0 humor in my msg.
If I alone can't post a listing in 100+ tries, and ahve been stopped from selling this item for half a year through migration and bugs, what is it other then exit prevention?

[plain briar]

Ok I understand now, you are having serious problems. Well that is usual for this game and happens a lot. If you hassle on discord here they are pretty good about seeing to it faster

[twin sequoia]

try transferring it to your wallet and back again to the passport account. Or listing it from the wallet.

[plain briar]

Complain on twitter for faster response too

[upbeat flume]

Update: after almost 100 tries (literally), it is finally listed. The issue might arise again if someone floors below my price, and I want to re-list even lower.
However, as of the time of writing it seems to be on the marketplace.
Anyone please buy it

[upbeat flume]

Would, but I only have 1 micro account where I like memes, read news and mostly comment on stuff that's funny

[plain briar]

Sounds like you are fixed at least for now

[upbeat flume]

yup, fingers crossed it sells.

[plain briar]

What are your selling?

Land?

[upbeat flume]

a simple t3 land. It is mostly developed (I forget if it resets when it sells, but if it doesn't it is relatively decent for the buyer)
Willing to sell it below the floor but don't want to accept an offer that is currently at ~30%
I want to get rid of it as I am generally displeased with the focus of the team, specifically continuous focus on the illuvium beyond.
I believed that illuvium overworld would be the most popular thing on Ethereum. I am still not sure why the reaction was so underwhelming, but the team focusing on other aspects and dilluting existing NFTs makes it even worse imo.

[plain briar]

Ok makes sense too. You are not individually targeted with theft. Everyone got the same theft. We stay because we forgot to leave. Or refuse to leave. Or only arrived

[twin sequoia]

List it on https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/832955966031003758. There you put the direct link to the plot, so it doesn´t matter if it is not in the general list. But the market for T3 is very slow. You shouldn´t complain about beyond. It is beyond what probably let us play the game, as it got most of the revenue of the game up to date (but for Zero landsale).

[plain briar]

Beyond is good and the best part of Illuvium, shows how simple is often best

Although coming new it feels like not worth it buying every card since the start because there are too many. And I don't play auto battler so I don't want to buy a battle board to enter a competition I won't play. Will wait for secondary market

[upbeat flume]

I am individually targeted when I, individually, can't list an item. I wasn't talking about dillution and the direction of the project when I said 'individually'. That word is there because I, individually couldn't list in ~100 tries.

[upbeat flume]

Thanks for the advice, I just did.
I understand it is slow, but another guy sold at a price I wanted to list below but couldn't.
I should complain in (what I consider) a reasonable and fair manner about whatever I feel like complaining. I bought land, a bunch of tokens, and even some disks. Back in the day when I did it, it sounded to me like Overworld would be the focus. I didn't have the time/energy to keep up with the news. The team/players decided to focus on beyond. They can make that choice, and I can be dissatisfied with that choice. Simple as.

[subtle frost]

should I do this?

[sonic junco]

na

[serene veldt]

Anyone have any recommendations for number of power stations and placement in relation to other structures to maximize efficiency? I have one or two buildings that are around 143-145, but I'm struggling to figure out how power station level and placement effect efficiency. Any help would be appreciated!

[twin sequoia]

That is research on the biodata, so you decide which blueprint are you trying to get. Researching biodata doesn´t remove the biodata.

[twin sequoia]

put them as near as you can, the range is 6 cells, and spread out converters as they affect negatively each other, specilly if the same type. They are also affected possitively by extractors of the same type.

[serene veldt]

Very helpful - thank you!!!

[tough field]

It seems we will need to use a new ILZ building in the process. What is the new building?

[twin sequoia]

Still not known.

[onyx frigate]

so with the new patch how many rhamphyre level three can I get ??? I have 4. If I get another one will it be different from the other ones?

[lunar mural]

Why can't I burn fuel right now?

[twin sequoia]

Is this already implemented? I thought it was a WiP yet.

[twin sequoia]

What do you mean? this is Zero channel. You can have 1 biodata for rhamphyre in each plot and as many blueprint as you research in the account.

[twin sequoia]

Because you are not using the right button? with that information is very difficult to know 🤣 . It is working for me

[radiant sky]

ya it's in

[placid finch]

Hi I need help from support

[placid finch]

Are you available

[twin sequoia]

You have a support channel https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1108308385138479124

[lunar mural]

So if I burn 100 fuel will I make at least 1$?

[vivid cipher]

Not likely

[vivid cipher]

This pinned message is old but probably far closer to current numbers than 100 to $1

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

This pinned post explains how the math works. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[vivid cipher]

I was just checking some things on the fuel leaderboard

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/leaderboard/fuel-burn

It’s currently showing around 1000 fuel burnt gets you like $0.40 from the leaderboard rewards (that will change ). That’s variable based on how much total fuel is burnt each week and how much fuel is sold each week. So highly variable.

[lunar mural]

Very interesting. I make like 100 fuel a week so 4 cent a week is not bad at all

[coarse tide]

Quick question in regards to blueprints and minting. I have a couple of what seem to be fairly rare like Stoic Hydrolynx, Nimble Emberlynx blueprints. I'm assuming I need to mint them before I can sell them?

[empty pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/money-rain-thank-you-money-conor-mc-gregor-make-it-rain-gif-14416503

[coarse tide]

Quick question in regards to blueprints and minting. I have a couple of what seem to be fairly rare like Stoic Hydrolynx, Nimble Emberlynx blueprints. I'm assuming I need to mint them before I can sell them?

I keep trying to list blueprints and I'm getting this error "Failed to list. The offeror does not have the amount needed "

[twin sequoia]

Yes, you need to mint them to convert them onchain and then you can list them for sale.

[twin sequoia]

This probably is because, with some Illivuals, both onchain and/or offchain BP are shown as onchain. It was supposed to be fix several weeks ago, but we are still waiting for it. For example

And it is the other way indeed, I have 10 minted (onchain), that I can list, and 4 offchain, that will throw the same error than to you if I try to list them

[wide pier]

decided to go radical on my Tier 2 layout! 🧨
I just deleted 3 of my 4 Bio-Scanners. Why? Because I’m shifting 100% of my focus to Energy Infrastructure. My goal is to hit 50 Power Stations at Level 9. Currently at 17/50! ⚡
I know a T2 can’t compete with T3/T4 on Fuel production, so I’m building a 'Power Hub' instead. I’m preparing for a future where I can supply energy to the grid or my neighbors. 🔌🔋
It’s a long grind, but I love the challenge. Anyone else specializing their land like this? 🏗️

[twin sequoia]

It depends on your plans. If you only want to mint to have it yourself, and prefer to sell the fuel that science cost, there is no sense. If you want to sell them in the market, ofc you must continue researching, as now BP are consumable and you loose 1 when minting. Also, in the future we will have "Sanctum Mesa requests", missions from Zero when we will need BP to compete for a share of revdivs as we now do burning fuel. This reward should be temporal, until the market for BP is strong enough later on with the MMO and probably more games of the ecosystem.

[twin sequoia]

Probably not. The question would be, why the hell that would be helpfull in any sense? As far as we know, the only reason for power plants, beside energy, is increase efficiency. I´m with you in that I have several plots with all 202 buildings at max lvl, including more than 150 power plants at lvl 9. But this was without limiting or reducing the others functions of the plot.

And because of my nerd side 😂 . I stopped doing that though, I have too much plots to manage.

But deleting the scanner could be smarter than you think, depending on how many Biodata you already discovered. The bottleneck of science are Research labs and BP. At the end, you will have all 130 biodata, you will just need 4 times more with 1 scanner instead of 4 and you have more space to do other things. But I would never remove the last one, specially if at 5. It is needed to build data banks and could have new functions in the future.

[wide pier]

Exactly, Sergio, so you know the grind! But here’s the thing: my T2 layout is simply not compatible with scanners. No matter where I move them, I’m stuck in the orange zone. I’m not going to waste resources on 30% efficiency just to follow a standard build.
I only have 2 Krypton and 1 Solon sources. I can't compete with T3/T4 on minerals or fuel. On a T2, you have to choose your battles.
Since I can't be a mineral giant, I’m becoming an Energy Giant. Transforming this specific plot into a Level 9 Power Hub is the only way to give it real, unique value. It’s about playing the hand I was dealt to the absolute max. ⚡️

I'm fully aware that, on paper, a T2 land doesn't have a massive market value compared to higher tiers. But here’s my perspective: the hundreds of hours I’m investing to max out these 50 stations represent a value that no standard T2 price can ever match.
My time is worth more than the 'market floor' of a T2. In fact, I’m putting so much effort into this that once it’s finished, I might not even sell it. I might just burn it or keep it as a monument to the grind. It’s not about the money anymore; it’s about the fact that I built something 'impossible' for a T2.

[wide pier]

Thanks for the tip, Sergio! I'll definitely keep that in mind and hold on to my last Level 5 scanner just in case of future updates or Data Bank needs. Appreciate the insight!

[past kindle]

your not suppose to complete with a t3 or t4... but you can have 50 t2's

fuel ain't the only way to rise on the leaderboard

[wide pier]

Exactly! Though I know even 50 maxed T2s wouldn't reflect the true value of the time put into them. The market only sees the floor price, but the grind is personal. I'm building this as a legacy of what’s possible when you push the limits. One brick at a time!

[past kindle]

your trying to do this on a t2?

[wide pier]

Exactly. It’s the ultimate challenge. I’m not here for the lottery or the drops, I'm just here to turn my T2 into that purple beast you just showed. The grind doesn't scare me!

Exactly. I just did a massive purge today, deleting everything non-essential to free up space. I’m keeping only the strict minimum to keep progressing while maximizing the layout. On a T2, every square inch counts to build that beast!

Just noticed we're in the same biome too. Makes the challenge even more personal. Let’s see what this T2 can really do!

[past kindle]

why power plants, why not something intersting like podariums

[wide pier]

Podariums are a waste of space for me. They're only useful if you play the main game (Overworld/Arena), but I’m strictly on Illuvium Zero. I don't even set foot in the Overworld, so I'm prioritizing power to max out this T2 layout.

[placid finch]

hey guys i minted zero land when it first came out how can i find out how much money i spent at that time as well as its transaction id

you a spam bro

[placid finch]

Sorry for ping but when you get time please look at my request

[coarse tide]

Is there any point in re-researching blueprints in order to mint more or once you've researched them there is no need to do any more once you've got them already?

[radiant sky]

have you tried checking your wallet you bought land with on immutascan?

[placid finch]

I have the mint shown as transaction

But it does not have the price that I paid

If I remember correctly that data was on my activity of my account when I logged in illuvium with my wallet

Now there is no optionlike that

To log in with wallet

[radiant sky]

yea it was, but since the zkEVM migration can't see that anywhere anymore on illuvium as far as i know.

[placid finch]

So how would I know how much the price I paid then?

[radiant sky]

I would open a ticket on the homepage, maybe they have the data still, it just doesn't show anymore

[placid finch]

Ok I did send a support ticket

[placid finch]

If you can be kind enough to push my ticket up because this is time sensitive for me

[vivid cipher]

The land was minted when you paid eth on ethereum mainnet. So you should be able to find the transaction on etherscan.

[placid finch]

On etherscan?

Wait I’ll check

[vivid cipher]

Yes

Something around the time of Like June 2-5, 2022

I’ll see what I can find to be helpful with your search.

[placid finch]

i have found the transaction

it is in silv2

how can i know the actual price

can i dm

[vivid cipher]

Excellent. Ah yes that was an option

[placid finch]

you

[vivid cipher]

Yes

They are open.

[placid finch]

i dmed you

[coarse tide]

Anyone feeling kind enough to share an example of an extremely levelled-up (almost max level) T2 plot? I've got most of my power stations to at least level 7 and 8 and have started selling some off to make space for other things. I'd really like to see how other people have optimised. I'd like to optimise for blueprints and fuel.

[lone grotto]

Hello guys, is there anyway we can buy or sell a megacity as a whole ? i have a 2x2 (t4, t3, t3 t2) fully maxed (lvl 4200) but all i see on illuvidex is lands one by one. Obviously a megacity has more value and we should be able to buy or sell them as a whole no ? (bought 20+ lands at landsale back in 2022 and managed to make only 1 megacity )
Im not leaving the project or anything, i just own too many lands and dont have time to harvest them all
Also would love to have some kind of valuation

[twin sequoia]

Hi, you have this channel https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/832955966031003758

[twin sequoia]

You have a channel in youtube and twich from ZephurosX (alias @woven tangle), but they are only for fuel, not for science.

[coarse tide]

Thanks he may have removed some videos as there aren't many at all in terms of Illuvium Zero guides

@twin sequoia Are you able to sell any of your highly levelled up lands for close to floor price?

[twin sequoia]

No 😉. I may sell semi-leveled plots close to floor price. I DM you

[subtle frost]

how many blueprints can I make with one biodata? will I lose it after one blueprints and I have to find it again?

[twin sequoia]

No, you can research as many blueprints as you can. Biodata is "forever", but if you remove it. Blueprints are consumed on use. Now, the only use is to mint them. In the future there will also be "Sanctum Mesa request".

[subtle frost]

Biodata is for forever
Blueprints are onetime use

Biodata can Mint Blueprint Infinity

and Blueprints will be used in the Overworld

[twin sequoia]

And probably in the rest of the games (as skins to Ranger and drone)

[subtle frost]

I guess part of the tasks

or ingredients to make things?

[twin sequoia]

Probably ingredients, but we still don´t know for sure

[subtle frost]

okay.. basically just keep making stuff

for fun

[raw inlet]

Hi, so is there fun and money in this game or not? What about the new overworld? Fuel is really cheap these days.

[twin sequoia]

It is fun if you like it 😉 . There is no much money now, but that is more than in "classic" games. We hope there is more in the future, ofc.

[boreal mantle]

Hi, I read that you can participate with the Lamborgini disk event, by buying them for 1000 Fuel. I have enough different Fuels on my land. Is there a step-by-step plan somewhere explaining how to buy disks with this Fuel? Or did I misunderstood something. Thank you for explaining.

[twin sequoia]

No that you misunderstood, but you didn´t read or play or were interested in Zero for a long time 😂 . Fuel inside Illuvium Zero can not be used in Illuvium ecosytem since April 2025. The fuel to buy Lamborghini disks (or any other thing) is "Unified Fuel", that is sold at $0.01. Zero fuel can be burn to get a reward from Illuvium revdiv, and this reward can be claimed in ETH, or in Unified fuel with a bonus or 20%: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/768749374255398943

[woven tangle]

I am waiting updates before I do anything on my lands

[manic gyro]

Just putting it out there I want to swap a T5 S2 gold chain for a t2 plot of land don’t care if it is build up or empty,

[coarse tide]

Is there any market at all for blueprints? I.e. is anyone buying them?

[boreal mantle]

Thank you for clarifying. Do you have an estimate on the reward of burning Zero fuel atm?

[radiant sky]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/leaderboard/fuel-burn

[twin sequoia]

It´s been working for months https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/leaderboard/fuel-burn. We are in cycle 55, so just over a year (plus the paused period for zkEVM migration)

[raw inlet]

Is there any point in buying a tier 2, 3, or 4 land, or is it better to play for free?

[twin sequoia]

Do you like the game? Just for playing, I would only buy a T1 to test, and then decide if just resetting, buying more T1 or a higher tier. Regarding rewards, always buy the higher you can afford. It is not worth it now but, if it is in the future, prices will skyrocket and you may buy one undeveloped, so will need months to make it productive.

New reward for a cycle in January during migration

[wide pier]

⚠️ SCAM ALERT - STAY SAFE! 🚨
I almost lost everything today! I received a fake "NULL" Blueprint (Illuvium Zero) via airdrop. When I tried to list it, it asked for a "Collection Approval"—this is a trap to drain your wallet! 😱
I immediately created a new Passport and transferred all my Lands, NFTs, and tokens to safety. 🏃💨
If you see a "NULL" item or get an "Unsafe transaction" warning: DO NOT APPROVE. Just ignore it! 🛑
The scam contract is still sitting in my old empty wallet... stay vigilant, Rangers! 🤡🗑️

Contract address for reporting: 0x612D0C4b92a079D7603C2D898128a72262A141B3
(Please flag it to protect the community! 🚩)

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[raw inlet]

Are there expectations that fuel and blueprint prices will increase when the new overworld is released?

[vivid cipher]

There’s always SPECULATION

[twin sequoia]

We all expect that 😉

[twin sequoia]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/814658570380771328

[tardy falcon]

how did you view the nft?

token trove?

[lethal wyvern]

Warning

Do not use TokenTrove to trade Illuvium assets on immutable zkEVM. The marketplace is out of date and they currently have no plan to update it

[wide pier]

I only used Immutable Passport / official marketplace. The issue is confirmed as a malicious contract interaction. I’ve already contacted the official support with all the proofs. Thanks!

[tardy falcon]

official marketplace? there is no official marketplace on immutable i thought

[wide pier]

I mean the IlluviDex. Anyway, support is checking the transaction logs now. Thanks for the heads up!

[tardy falcon]

part of the problem with using that method is there is no filtering of contract addresses... so anyone can make any fuckin nft on Immutable zkEVM...

Actually better to use 3rd party because we can hard code specific CAs and these kinds of nfts cant exist

[tardy falcon]

you sure?

I think Illuvidex hard codes CAs too

@copper inlet true?

[copper inlet]

what support? I am the support and do not recall your ticket 😛 and you would not see fake assets on illuvidex, ad ratty said, harcoded

if someone reached out to you and said its from illuvium support, its fake

[wide pier]

To answer your question, here is the malicious contract address: 0x612D0C4b92a079D7603C2D898128a72262A141B3. I was using the official tools, but this one still popped up. Anyway, I've sent everything to support now. Thanks for the chat!

[vivid cipher]

The right question

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/pointing-that-is-correct-thats-right-good-job-way-to-go-gif-18723702

[wide pier]

@Peter | Illuvium Hi Peter! I actually have an official ticket, the number is #78882. I opened it via the website earlier today. I’m just waiting for a human response now. I haven't talked to anyone in private (DMs), I'm only following the official procedure. Thanks for checking!

[copper inlet]

ok ok, I see, opened recently, we will send you official response tomorrow morning (we cannot do what you mentioning tho we have no tools)

[wide pier]

Understood, Peter. I figured as much, but thanks for checking anyway. I'll wait for the official email tomorrow morning. Have a good night!

[wide pier]

Hey everyone, just a heads-up to protect the community. Check your wallets carefully! If you see a weird NFT you didn't buy (like a 'NULL' Blueprint or any unknown item), DO NOT interact with it. I didn't click any suspicious links; this thing was sent directly to my wallet by a bot to bait me. Stay vigilant, don't sign any 'Collection Approval' for items you don't recognize. Stay safe!

To make it simple for everyone: Think of your wallet as your house. Usually, you think you're safe as long as you don't open the door to strangers (suspicious links).

But in Web3, anyone can drop a 'package' (a malicious NFT) right on your coffee table without your permission. The trap is: if you touch that package to move it or throw it away, you are actually signing a contract that gives the hacker the keys to your entire house.

The danger is already INSIDE your wallet. Don't touch, don't sign, don't interact. Just leave it there or migrate your assets to a new clean wallet like I did. Stay safe!🧠

[tardy falcon]

Just to clarify for anyone reading this: receiving an NFT is harmless. It can't execute anything. Transferring it out or burning it is just a standard transfer From you sign as the owner - no approvals involved, no risk to your other assets. The danger is only if a user is tricked into signing a setApprovalForAll on a malicious frontend, which requires you to go to a phishing site and actively approve. The NFT sitting in your wallet can't do that on its own.

If you want it gone u can transfer it to 0x000000000000000000000000000000000000dEaD or another wallet. That's a clean transferFrom, costs a few cents of gas, done. You don't need to migrate all your assets to a new Passport.

[wide pier]

I get the technical point about the setApprovalForAll, but tech and exploits evolve faster than our certainties. What is considered 'harmless' today can become a vulnerability tomorrow through a new exploit we haven't seen yet.
Taking radical precautions and migrating assets is about nipping the problem in the bud. I’d rather be 'too cautious' today than 'too confident' tomorrow if a new attack vector emerges. In Web3, zero risk only exists when there is zero interaction. Better safe than sorry, especially when you've put hundreds of hours into a build.

[tardy falcon]

Respectfully, no

Blockchain works under specific rules. The only way people can get scammd is by signing auth to do so. And that is phishing.

What I am doing is stating the truth about what is ok to do and why.

Spreading false info does harm and I am respectfully correcting you

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[wide pier]

Respectfully, we have to look at the bigger picture. History is full of 'mathematically impossible' failures—from the DAO hack on Ethereum to various 'un-drainable' vault exploits on older chains. What is code-safe today can become a zero-day vulnerability tomorrow.
Regarding the grenade: mathematically, a grenade with the pin in is 'safe.' But in the real world, no one wants to sleep with a grenade on their nightstand. Why? Because accidents happen, pins slip, or someone else might walk into the room and pull it.
By migrating, I’m not just following math; I’m eliminating the risk of human error and any future technical debt. It’s my personal security philosophy: I’d rather have a 100% clean house than a 'theoretically safe' one with a suspicious object inside.
At the end of the day, my Land represents hundreds of hours of work. I’m not gambling those hours on the hope that 'nothing will ever change' in the code. Let's agree to disagree, and let's get back to building. Good night!

[twin sequoia]

Isn´t the safiest way not connecting the computer or mobile phone to the internet? 😉 🤔 . Just kidding. You could use a hard wallet so the assets are always safe if you don´t connect it to the USB port.

[wide pier]

Exactly! Total air-gap is the dream. I’m actually a long-time crypto user, though I’m relatively new to the NFT space.
I’m very strict about wallet segregation—I never mix different types of protocols. My privacy-focused assets like Dero and Monero are kept on dedicated, completely offline cold wallets. I keep my ERC-20 assets strictly within their own ecosystem and never cross-contaminate.
I already use several Ledgers for different purposes, but I haven't dedicated one specifically for NFTs yet. I’m currently researching which hardware setup offers the best UX for NFT metadata on IMX before I move my Lands again. Moving to a clean slate today was just a proactive measure while I finalize my long-term security architecture. Cheers for the tip!

[nova hull]

@candid pebble you on discord? I'm your land neighbor in Crystal Shores!

[nova hull]

@radiant sky …I think you won the fuel leaderboard.

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-throw-up-puke-vomit-gagging-gif-16080834

[radiant sky]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-seymour-partypoker-YMLy9SCDDne4yT74dn

[twin sequoia]

This week is for me!

[vast dirge]

hi, does path bonus affect passive generation speed on converters?

[twin sequoia]

yes, everything. Passive generation and active conversion, extraction, building time and science times (and more timed things if I forget them 😂 )

[open stratus]

Did I miss the burn reset

I meant to do it yesterday fark

[twin sequoia]

The reset is always done on Thursday at 0.0UTC

[lunar mural]

Hey so where do I check to see how much I made from the fuel I burned?

Like the payout, where is it?

[radiant sky]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/rewards

[grand silo]

Is anyone selling a mega city

[twin sequoia]

I´m selling 2 indeed #🛒〕land-dex message

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[scenic cliff]

Just curious, I am getting started in Zero now and I was wondering if there are rental lands that help let me collect fuel or something like that I read somewhere that you can join clans and what not, but have not figured that out yet.

[twin sequoia]

There are clans on Arena, but I didn´t hear about them in Zero. @whole spear is working on a rental system, but Immutable is doing it difficult to happen and I don´t know if it will also work for Zero.

You can try to make a deal with a plot owner to do the rental, but that would be a matter of trust.

[scenic cliff]

Thanks for the info Sergio.

[jaunty forge]

@radiant sky did you druged my lynx

ouch no weapon for 4 rev no stage 3

[jaunty forge]

https://tenor.com/view/so-pissed-im-work-mad-gif-4991758397616257390

https://tenor.com/view/the-librarian-college-shorts-american-high-shorts-youtube-tiktok-gif-12251015761030930428

why do we play the same guys twice when there is 4 player left

there is no way to make sure that does not happen

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena

[jaunty forge]

that is why ILV smack me, cuase i am lost

[twin sequoia]

@radiant sky @jaunty forge did you realize that this is the Zero channel? We are not used to such aggressive behaviors ... not even that many GIFs in a row! 🤣

[jaunty forge]

https://tenor.com/view/realised-gif-26455419

[spiral cliff]

Please explain me next error, when i am trying to open illuvium zero from epic games it pops this error:
Launch Failed

Coul not launch illuvium zero. Please verify the installation.

Error Code: LS-0013

[twin sequoia]

Reinstall

[marsh canyon]

Do we have any recent news about the training center for zero ?

[twin sequoia]

Not yet, but it is included in the roadmap for this quarter, so we should have some update in the coming months.

[marsh canyon]

Thanks

[coarse tide]

Where can I see the road map for Zero?

[vivid cipher]

There’s only two items #📣〕announcements message

[twin sequoia]

I remember we have been waiting a patch for BP issue(s) for weeks now. Do you have an update for? was it delayed to be included in a major update for these 2 items? I suppose there will be some more info about them in Q2, right?

[vivid cipher]

I do not think the next update will include those two major items.

It looks to me like the next patch will include Sanctum Mesa Requests, the BP fix, and maybe some other stuff. I couldn’t speak regarding timeframe

[serene iris]

Yes..... training gyms..... this quater

This is in the ill believe it when I see it category

[heavy wolf]

Hey guys first time ive logged into zero in ages...can someone please explain off chain and on chain blueprints for me? I have a feeling the on chain ones are blueprints from before I bought my land do I still have access to those? Also any updates I should know about

[serene iris]

I dont think there is any clarity on this yet.

[vivid cipher]

Actually this article is likely helpful. https://portal.illuvium.io/help-center/illuvium-zero-blueprints-on-zkevm#blueprint-minting-a-new-model

blueprints aren’t minted automatically. You can have them in the game, but then later you’d have to take action to mint them.

[lost walrus]

My plots does not open on phone, will check tonight via epic store

[serene iris]

Yes I noticed this too the success rate on everything I have clicked on is 0% ??? Is this correct @vivid cipher ? Or is everything zero because we all have to many unused blueprints??

[jaunty rain]

Do I understand the announcement correctly: until now, we were able to farm the necessary Ressources on our land, for the mint of a blueprint. Now we have to pay about 40 cents for the minting of each blueprint? and the 2nd question is: what can we do at the moment with blueprints? is there any utility? we cant craft suits in overworld anymore with them, right?

and at the moment the mintingprocess seems like before... maybe i need to upgrade...

[radiant sky]

did you update your client?

#📣〕announcements message

[radiant sky]

sounds about right, yes.
no utility currently for bp's

[lost walrus]

Yep downloaden newest version

[radiant sky]

maybe a phone reboot helps.
At least i used to do it when i played on phone,to solve different bugs after an app update.

[vivid cipher]

If you need to purchase credits then yes they cost $0.99 or less for 10.

[vivid cipher]

I’m getting the same thing on iOS after update. Seems wrong.

[radiant sky]

minting cost value is for me 0 aswell... might be related.
(but get an error and reload plot after try)

[vivid cipher]

Same.

I let the dev know. But if anyone uses a build that’s different than iOS it could be good to report using the in game bug reporter.

[radiant sky]

guys, be aware of scam dm/friend-requests.
no mod/team-member/support will DM you ever first.

[vivid cipher]

Minting cost and success rate should look right and work now.

Worked for me.

[radiant sky]

can confirm for minting

[marsh canyon]

Is someone know the reason for this changement of minting with credit ?

I’m personally really septic about it …

[lost walrus]

Retried a few times and it worked eventually

[lost walrus]

So they can earn money I guess

[marsh canyon]

Yeah sure but isn’t it a shame for the first players that bought land at the beginning ?
In zero the only real “ fun “ right now is minting and find all the facts and being a land owner bring quite not that much advantages …
I’m just asking for opinions as we don’t really have the hand on it ..

[leaden egret]

I m really bored about how Illuvium zero is turning, no more reason to have a good land or not, no more reason for the location variety, ect.
I don't understand any choice now and don't evec understand how it really works now.
Don't know what to do and how to make run my lands... 😰

It would be nice to get a feed back about how it works now, what every parts are made for and what you can do with them too 🤷‍♂️

[marsh canyon]

I guess it’s still economy stabilisation …

But yes I don’t really understand the move of minting blueprint with credit.

If hypothetically the skins comes with bonus, the game becomes full pay to win I guess. That would be a shame as the actual quality of the game itself isn’t on the level of the competitors (web 2 games are also competitors as the point is also to bring the maximum players). If it’s just skins, fair enough but what is the point to mint them if you have to pay and then find a buyer knowing that there isn’t that much players yet.

So right now, as a land owner what is the real advantage to have a land as the rewards are so low ?

Same, what is the illuvium team strategy/hopes about that ?

And bigger question, what is the use of the basic materials (silicon/carbon/hydrogen) if the land is already full upgraded?

[hardy brook]

My whole strategy around buying a T3 plot was so I had land that generated the resources needed for BPs. Now not only has this update made my T3 resource generation pointless, I also now have to pay 2 mint

This is so bad it's hilarious really 😅

[iron laurel]

Game no longer loads for me. I updated it and it just stays on loading screen.

I try not to complain much and to be understanding about the need for money to be made for the project to continue but I am not happy about BP minting costing credits. We paid a lot of money for a game that was supposed to drive the economy of the Illuvium universe, give us fuel to travel, while being the only way to get materials to make BPs. Now the game has nothing to do with economy, we don't use fuel to travel, the DAO is producing BPs that are superior to the ones on land with 0 materials needed from land. On top of that we are supposed to pay for each BP.

I bought a city so I could travel and make rare BPs if I put the tiime into the gameplay to get resources. I can't travel and you want to nickle and dime me to get me to make BPs. I don't know guys, maybe you have a great plan for these BPs and they are worth the money but at this point I feel like you are adding insult to injury.

[twin sequoia]

@patent zealot the issue with off chain/on chain BP is solved?

[hardy brook]

Yeah but guys it's only 4 credits and it's so simple to hand over your money. Remember when it was free and really complicated.

Just enter credit card for your ranger suit recolours, simples 😂

[twin sequoia]

Credits are also gained with free plot and leveling. lvl 200 alone are 50 credits

[radiant sky]

patchnotes from an older patch:

https://portal.illuvium.io/help-center/guides/illuvium-zero-blueprints-on-zkevm

[twin sequoia]

But I agree in that is a very bad way to do things, with any clue or asking their opinion to current land holders. This was already launched years ago and cost money

Morphopods menu still in the game. Will they be used for other things or is still WiP?

And when will there be credits in the shop?

[drifting shoal]

So if elements are no longer needed to mint BP and I've built all the buildings i guess i no longer need elements?

[twin sequoia]

May be for future features (Gyms, fusion, XXX)

[drifting shoal]

We hopefully something soon cuz otherwise its best for me to take everything down and spread out my fule generators

[vestal raft]

Hope there can still be a use for them somehow, or they can be "converted" to something useful.
Think I have a little more then 1k of those critters I shot in OW 😄

Also... really hope they implement that Gym soon.... starting to think its just a myth 👀

[digital cloud]

I actually welcome the change to manual minting, as it will help stabilize the price on the marketplace and reduce oversupply.

[twin sequoia]

Yes, it has some sense, but it is an important change and I suspect that it is part of a wider set of changes with the use of BP. At the end, if you want the BP for yourself, it is 4x130=520 credits. That´s not much money (and you can get it for free leveling plots). And it gives a base value to the BP you want to sell in the market. Also, sanctum mesa request should be main source of revenue for BP now.

[vivid cipher]

One thing about minting on zkEVM network is that it costs imx tokens to do so. That cost is paid by the studio. This is true for everything in the games. While the cost per transaction is very low, unlimited free mints that generate real word expenses are certainly bad for business.

I guess we get to see what happens with the price of blueprints on the marketplace now.

[snow summit]

Correct me if I'm wrong:

• according to my calculations, you can't farm them at the rate your lands produce Blueprints as is - the only way I can think of is buying cheap plots and resetting them periodically which is just a very sad way of utilizing gameplay (unless it doesn't work anymore either).
• it is the ultimate slap because while the game is blockchain based, buying credits is not even possible on-chain.

[hardy brook]

So the 4 credits are just to cover cost. There's no profit involved?

[jaunty rain]

can you tell me what reason there is to still play IZ, for all the players that are not able to get into the weekly reward-area?

[quaint oyster]

so carbon,silicon,hydrogen are useless now?cause i use them to mint...now i am full and no point for them

[iron laurel]

This is what I want to know as well.
If this is the case, that we are just covering costs, maybe a statement saying that with the announcement would be good.

[ivory badger]

wow with the new update to IZ and blue print minting it is going to kill any reason to buy new lands if you already own lands, I looked at price to buy credits for minting and land prices , F buying new land credits are way cheaper

[vivid cipher]

I did not say that at all. It’s pretty clearly to turn some profit.

[vivid cipher]

Same as always. Play game for fun.

[jaunty rain]

i am sorry to tell you, that game is not that fun to "just play it for fun". a city builder that has nothing to build, nothing to fight, nothing to earn....

[ivory badger]

I really do enjoy the game , own all areas in tier1 andtier2 , was looking to get all areas in teir3 next but is there really a reason now that resources are useless ?

[jaunty rain]

once you are maxxed out

[vivid cipher]

Oh I certainly understand

I’d have to read the article again. But the only reason given to mint blueprints was to trade them.

I assume that indicates that to use them on your account they would be able to remain off chain. But, since the gam in which to use them is still offline and being worked on then that aspect of blueprint use is not yet finalized

[jaunty rain]

i like to say "awesome" but this wouldn't describe my actual feeling - IZ is not worth playing anymore - if it simply produces costs, just take it down, everyone can take a loss and can move on

[lyric lodge]

as long as its not you taking the loss right >

[jaunty rain]

i include myself in the "everyone"

[twin sequoia]

When you reset a plot, the lvl is no reset. So once you hit lvl 200 you are done with credits (and it has been so for years, may be in alpha it wasn´t for testing purposes, I didn´t play then). If you want to mint as much BP as you can to sell them, because this is blockchain based, where is the problem if paying a very small fee to mint something? If you buy 350 credits to mint 87BP, it is $0.25 per mint (not counting the free credits from paid plots and the free plot), not so much if BP are sold at $1 or higher.

[twin sequoia]

You said it, play Zero. And even if you burn 1 fuel per week, you get rewards.

[twin sequoia]

Let´s hope they are used for future features. Minting was a nice way to use them.

[iron laurel]

I keep hoping training gyms will be good and make me glad to own land.

[twin sequoia]

Yea, for me T3 was about resources for minting. Of course fuel production also pays out compared to T1 and T2, but as revenue is so low there is no much about this yet

[twin sequoia]

You can still research biodata to find BP for future sanctum mesa requests

[jaunty rain]

do you have plots that are not maxxed out yet?

[twin sequoia]

dozens, and I don´t plan to max them out either. I´m done with T1 and almost with T2 (it is matter of time)

[jaunty rain]

ah i see - so the fun is in the process of building a cool city for you?

[twin sequoia]

In optimizing it for efficiency and planned use.

[iron laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/never-give-up-the-office-dont-give-up-gif-15075170

@radiant sky

[radiant sky]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ItAkB3iyEfYyc

[iron laurel]

I keep typing and erasing.
I am going to give up and play with my chickens.

[hardy brook]

Thing is, now they made experience so easy to gain in gauntlet the whole IZ gym idea seems kinda pointless too

...I should have bought chickens rather than this bloody land.

[viscid bolt]

With the new version of IZ, how do you get more credits?

[serene iris]

I am waiting for the announcement that land holders will have to pay to use there own gyms.... that might be the final straw for me sadly.

[iron laurel]

For those of us too busy playing with chickens that we don't play Gauntlet much it might help.

My chickens shed and run cost about the same as the land but I have to admit I have gotten a higher return.😂

[iron laurel]

Oh I hope not. That would be crazy.

[iron laurel]

Levelling up land or buying through mobile.

[viscid bolt]

But they put a cap on the credits you could earn by leveling up land and I hit that limit a long time ago. So, I have to buy credits to mint blueprints that already are selling, if they sell, for pennies? Really?

[snow summit]

The problem is that the design doesn't allow for paying with ETH/ILV/stablecoins, unless I'm wrong.

The path of getting resources required for minting blueprints, which was using in-game elements so far, basically became:

1. Claim weekly rewards for burning Fuel in ETH
2. Bridge ETH
3. off ramp
4. install mobile app
5. add your credit card
6. purchase credits

Which is utterly insane given we are talking about an on-chain game.

Adding conversion from Fuel to Credits achieves the exact same goal without thousand pointless steps in-between.

[viscid bolt]

It would be alright if you could convert fuel or elements to credits. Or even if you could burn blueprints for credits.

[vast dirge]

yea a little confused with this one lol

[iron laurel]

I am still not able to load Zero (on PC). Anyone else having this issue?

[icy elbow]

Can I see the error you’re getting?

[iron laurel]

No error, stays on loading screen.

[hardy brook]

Is it this screen you get stuck on or when trying to load a plot?

[open stratus]

I got stuck switching plots (for the first time after update) for up to a minute

[hardy brook]

This announcement should have been made in a town hall explaining the reasoning behind this change and sugar coating it with an exciting vision for what they have planned for IZ going forward.

Instead the community is yet again blindsided by a change we didn't know was coming. And to attempt to pass it off as simplification and cost covering when it's neither is just straight up disingenuous. This is just not good enough tbh

[grand silo]

Still going strong

[twin sequoia]

Not recently. This usually happened to me when there was an issue with the token expiration. Just close the game, launch Illuvidex in your default browser, sing out and singin again and launch the game (with the browser still open the first time, just in case)

[twin sequoia]

This usually happened to me within MC or after collecting all fuel active conversion when Production LB was up. So let´s hope it is just temporal

[coarse tide]

Sorry I posted this the other day but I didn't see a reply response. Can someone share the road map that includes gyms please?

[viscid bolt]

#📣〕announcements message

[sacred mural]

Let me get this, now we cannot use our resources to mint BP???

Allow me to remember how IZ changed during these 2 or plus years:

Invest a lot of money in the plots, then they were worth nothing but you could:

• At least harvest Fuel and use it in the game or sell it ➡️ Then you were not able to use the fuel in the game
• At least research for a whole big collection of Blueprints per plot ➡️ Then all different Blueprints got reduced to 1 and research was shared in all plots
• At least harvest resources to mint Blueprints ➡️ Forget about that, pay us..

And this is just quick and in a nutshell.

In the normal rug and pull scams you lose the 90+% of the money and that was it, but here now you have to pay? this went to a whole new level

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[coarse tide]

The infographic doesn't have any actual info? where are you seeing that we now need to pay for blueprints? etc

[sacred mural]

Try to mint a blueprint, now it cost 0 plot resources and 4 credits

[coarse tide]

ohhh, damn, wtf, I didn't see any information about that. Where is this officially announced? That is annoying. We literally have to pay to mint our blueprints that are actually almost worthless anyway.

[vivid cipher]

Agreed

[iron laurel]

You are fantastic. That worked. Thank you for taking the time to help me out.

[vivid cipher]

It was announced in #📣〕announcements message that’s all.

[twin sequoia]

If you consider it worthless, don´t mint it yet. It may change in the future, or wait until you have something to do with the NFT. If not necessary yet, why mint something?

[coarse tide]

@twin sequoia This is what I asked previously. Is there actually a market for blueprints? Is anyone buying or selling them?

[solar topaz]

since overworld isn't available anymore, we cannot craft skins...

[twin sequoia]

No

[twin sequoia]

ups, almost

[tardy falcon]

something brewing

[serene iris]

Tell me more!

Ohh you can see what buildings are on a plot???? That would be supa useful

[tardy falcon]

lookin to see what ways i can make life easier for the grindy illuvium things yk yk

[tardy falcon]

even more useful is this

[serene iris]

Wtf.....

Seriously this should have been done by illuvium 2 years ago!

Now I'm just mad

They should seriously hire you!

[tardy falcon]

nahhh I'm just a lowly rat

stirring and lurking to help bring cheese to the masses

[serene iris]

Give me more cheese!

[tardy falcon]

gonna test more and add some extra features... get the megacities set up etc...
this prob gonna be a premium rattydata feature tho

[tardy falcon]

megacity all good

[past kindle]

125 ophisto attempts made 5 a day, no ophisto, so basically the game has become a high odds lottery, just like ADR has no more golds, they dont want you to spend, i think they want you to leave

tier 1's are worthless to play now... nothing to do

[oak ruin]

why the hell do I need CREDITS to mint on the ZERO POINT TRANSDUCER on ILV ZERO? these guys are really trying to make me spend money to play illuvium zero, after paying a ton of money for my megacity?? wtf is this????? I used to use morphopods and materials!!! What are they for now? how do I get these credits without having to pay?????

someone please explain

[oak ruin]

what is this?

[tardy falcon]

I am building a ZERO tool

[oak ruin]

cool

[sacred mural]

It's a new kind of scam, where you get scammed and then you need to pay them after that

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

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[tardy falcon]

how much does 4 credits cost?

[nova hull]

Gg @brave wasp 5 psion king

[oak ruin]

Updates & Improvements:
Blueprint minting has been simplified — it now costs just 4 Credits, with no Morphopods or additional resources required.

THEY SAID HAVING TO NOW PAY IS AN IMPROVEMENT, fking deceitful bastards

and morphopods and that PODARIUM structure are the same as nothing

[brave wasp]

GG and thank you

[brave wasp]

Yeah, this is twice in two months that they "Simplified" something as an improvement when in all reality it's a downgrade.

Moving the goalposts by making it credits since they know we had nothing to do but stack resources is definitely a slap in the face.

Edit: I mean hearing that minting isn't free anymore makes sense now as to why the cost is there. However I wish they were upfront about that in the announcement and not making it sound like it was a good thing.

[oak ruin]

burning fuel is worthless?

[lyric lodge]

hang on a minute, so we brought land to mint BP and now we have to pay actual money to mint BP ? When was this announced ?

[oak ruin]

they announced as an improvement to the game, to simplify minting blueprints hahahaha

[lyric lodge]

exactly @vivid cipher is this for real, are you guys actually joking, is it your mission to contuine to screw over land owners ?

[oak ruin]

i used al my credits to rush things etc because i had NO NEED for them

they could well give back the hundreds of credits i spent for nothing, because i had no use for them @vivid cipher

[lyric lodge]

@noble quest are you actualy joking ? Why do you continue to screw over land owners, not only that but your in charge, are you aware of this was announced , maybe you are note aware of things going on, did you know this was quietly announced as an improvement , that land owners who paid loads for their now worthless land, are now required to pay to mint BP on lands we paid for and were told it was part of owning land ? Like its an actual question, did you approve this ? Kieran this is disgraceful.

Like whats next for land owners ? Like we have nothing, no profit from the game and now we have to pay to mint BP, the only thing we had left, honestly @noble quest are you ok with this ? Can you not see how we are continually being screwed over, and the way its been done, its really disgraceful, thats the only word I can think of, just so disrespectful to land owners. What's the point of even owning land, legit question ?

[lyric lodge]

no idea, but are you not floored by how this has been sneaked in ?

[oblique mango]

I prefer to mint for the resources I mine from my own land, without further comment.
Now we know what gyms on the land will give us, and it won't be cheap, hehe.
I suggest level 1 for one credit up to level 10, then 2 credits for each level above 10, 3 credits for levels above 30, and so on.
And the Illuvial leveling time is 1 day maximum to earn a lot, hehe.
I can't wait for the gym and the price list 🙂

[tardy falcon]

haha not really XD
I think we have seen much much worse

while yes on the surface it weems like wtf... make us spend credits for bps

here's the other side...

• minting on zkEVM is not free like it was on imx
• credits for BPs gives some inherent value into them
• creates a bit of scarcity cuz some people will choose not to
• creates choice

i think the wording is misleading... they should just be up front and say hey, minting on zkEVM costs gas so we are gonna make it cost 4 credits to mint... that way it doesnt feel slimy

but as has always been... communication from Illuvium has never been great

soooooo.... not floored at all

[lyric lodge]

its digusting the way the team have treated us and it happens over and over and over, they never learn

[lyric lodge]

cool ...how is land owners paying to mint BP that were free, an improvement ? @vivid cipher

[iron laurel]

I still want to know what it costs to mint it and if the DAO is making money off of it or if we are just paying what it costs.

[twin sequoia]

Using credits for speeding up things is quite of a nonsense

buying additional workers is ok, but I´ve built most of muy plots with just 1. I only bought workers at first, then realized it wasn´t needed.

[lyric lodge]

man we just have to understand something, the team can do whatever they want, we are powerless, they can make promises and just change them at any point to whatever they want, thats the truth. We can do ZERO, it will happen again and and again, those have kept this project alive are being screwed and the team really does not give a damn

[iron laurel]

@tardy falcon

[tardy falcon]

nice

ty

so bout 50 cents for a bp

[lyric lodge]

pretty sure thats way more than it costs them, unreal

[lyric lodge]

take take take take take

[lyric lodge]

i thought its also based on success rate ? so what are elements now used for ?

[lyric lodge]

whats the on chain cost for minting ?

[iron laurel]

This one is bothering me too tbh.
Partly because of how it was announced, almost like it was a favour to us that we now have to pay.
I am waiting on training gyms. If I can level my own Illuvials for free I will feel my land has some use.
If I have to pay credits to level my own Illuvials on my own land that will probably be the straw for this camel.

I don't know the cost of minting, wish I did.

[lyric lodge]

do you know what does not matter, even if they deciuded to charge 10 dollars for mint and made 9 dollars, we have no say on the matter

[tardy falcon]

its cheap

[iron laurel]

So, less than $0.56 then ?

[lyric lodge]

but whats the point , if you sell your land now you get nothing, lose lose lose

[lyric lodge]

ofc it has to be

[iron laurel]

Yeah, I mean at this point, we are kind of committed it doesn't make sense to sell.

[lyric lodge]

if they say you have to pay then what , we are powerless

they can say and do what they want, i thought we supposed to have a vote in these type of things ?

[lyric lodge]

its cheap means its pennies

i hope @vivid cipher can explain when he is around again, how us having to pay for BP that were free is an improvement

[tardy falcon]

cheap cheap

[lyric lodge]

about how much, cents ?

give us a worst case

like 0.01 cents ?

[twin sequoia]

less if you buy 350 credits, that seems like a good balance

[lyric lodge]

i mean is iut cheap enough the cost could just be absorbed ?

[twin sequoia]

I don´t think they save the day with that "benefit" xD

[pearl dust]

I hope for your guys sake, it ends up driving the price of blueprints up due to scarcity etc

[twin sequoia]

I guess that gyms or fusion will need elements and/or fuel. Use BP to get elements to use was a nice idea

[pearl dust]

Some of those illuvial skins deserve to be rare and sought after - I sympathise with you all with the added costs, after land has taken a mega ass kicking to put it nicely

[lyric lodge]

but minting does not mean to get something its still goes on odds right ?

[lyric lodge]

whats worse its describing it as an improvement

[iron laurel]

No, you get it and then you mint it. You can still use it in your own wallet too I think, it is just if you want to sell or trade you have to mint.

[pearl dust]

Mhm, it did seem to be announced/worded rather badly in my opinion. Although it's cheaper for the 4 credits than I thought tbh

[lyric lodge]

you cant mint it without paying

[pearl dust]

Torial is correct. You only need to mint with credits, if you choose to sell it in the marketplace

[twin sequoia]

No, when you mint, you have and NFT 100% of the times, so it makes some sense that it costs just a bit. If you want for your collection, the cost is negible. If it is for selling, the cost of 4 credits will be paid by the final buyer

[oak ruin]

I want all the damn credits I had and used for upgrading buildings faster BECAUSE THEY HED ZERO USE

[twin sequoia]

It appears in the wallet where the plot is. And you can do whatever you want with it, it is your NFT

[iron laurel]

It's like it is an asset in our own games until we choose to mint it and then it becomes an NFT. That NFT we can choose to keep or sell.
We can not sell without minting.
I think that is correct anyway?

[pearl dust]

Yup, they are an off-chain asset I believe, and the only reason to mint them is to sell / trade them.
Rich clarified this, lemme find it

[oak ruin]

my megacity is t4t3t2t2 and i should produce a good amount of fuel to play, buy beyond packs etc, this is messed up. they shoulod remove lands all together and give all the ETH we spend back!

[twin sequoia]

It is probable that future changes are made and they are reduced or changed with other method if there are too much complains. It happened before, but I won´t complain myself for this, hoping new features that will use these elements that are now useless 😉

[iron laurel]

That's what I thought, we can use them but if we want the NFT for collection, or which is required to sell or trade we must mint.

[pearl dust]

Look, I sympathise with your frustrations. I have nothing but compassion for you guys who have held land for so long - especially at hefty acquisition prices. But I really am not in charge to do anything about the changes I'm afraid
I wish I could

[lyric lodge]

dude you wont get it , this is why i stopped putting money into this project, its just take take take, its a money pit and now they want more

[iron laurel]

I am fine with the fee. I just don't think the fee should be more than the DAO pays.

[twin sequoia]

And you have the sanctum mesa requests mission to use the BP ingame instead of paying for minting them

[lyric lodge]

its ALOT more @tardy falcon still has not provided a rough cost of minting on chain

[lyric lodge]

i am trying to get the money back i spent on land thats all

I hoped to do that with BP

[tardy falcon]

maybe a penny or less

[twin sequoia]

yes, could be that way. But it will also reduce the offer of BP, so they will be more valuable

[lyric lodge]

are we not supposed to be able to vote on these type of changes

[pearl dust]

I have to go away from my pc for a bit, but if anyone has time, I would highly reccomend someone creates a #1020759212172775464 - get everyone who seems frustrated to add their point of view - Constructive as possible and polite, and I will do my best to get it seen / sent around to see if there's anything that can be done to alleviate any pain points that seem to be felt by the majority.
Doesn't mean I can make any adjustments, but the best way to work towards it being better for you guys and girls, is to lay out your feedback in a place we can bring it forward

[pearl dust]

Start a feedback, if that gets enough community following, you can bring it to council

[twin sequoia]

I don´t think this is realistic. It is just another method to get money from plots, but won´t be THE WAY of reaching break even. And fuel was always the focus

[lyric lodge]

fuel is worth less now we have nothing

[oak ruin]

should i not be burning the fuel my land prooduces?

[pearl dust]

Burning fuel does earn you ETH if you are on the leaderboard - It's better than holding onto it imo. But that's a personal choice ofcourse

[twin sequoia]

It is far from paying out, but it is not nothing

[pearl dust]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/leaderboard/fuel-burn

[lyric lodge]

how many lands for that ?

[oak ruin]

thats for burning fuel?

[iron laurel]

We can hope.

[twin sequoia]

Around 77, but a few still not finished

[lyric lodge]

i honestly have never been more screwed over buy any person or project than this one

[twin sequoia]

That is because you didn´t enter a project that went bankruptcy 😂

Sadly, as a landsale buyer, it will difficult for you to recover all your money, but who knows, and this year or the next you could recover quite much with all the ongoing projects

plot´s price has been stable since before the migration and now it is rising in some circumstances. If no more whales want to exit as last year, they should increase in price little by little

[lyric lodge]

wow, i am sorry to hear that, thats insane

[oak ruin]

is there a way to sell the megacity itself?

[twin sequoia]

you have to agree with someone in discord and make the deal

In Illuvidex there is no way to sell them "packed"

neither with 3rd party apps

[lyric lodge]

you must have a amazing confidence in this project ? or had

i have zero

nothing

[twin sequoia]

Not so amazing, just entered at a better time. Prize at landsale were crazy for me. I paid quite yet for my first plots, but I liked playing the game and I like thinking in ways of using the plots

[lyric lodge]

really thats just being honest, not cause of just this but over and over and over, how unprofessional they have been.

[oak ruin]

i miss going out to try to find illuvials on the overworld, and i think my damn megacity should produce more fuel. hoping the new overworld will be better

[twin sequoia]

Yes, they´ve been. But also, they work "for us". We put some money (you shouldn´t spend more thant you can risk) and they put their time and their jobs, so they are more interested than us in making this 🚀

[lyric lodge]

they dont work for us, they own us, they do whatever thye want at our expense

[twin sequoia]

I entered Illuvium because I like Zero. I could earn more money with Arena? may be, but I don´t like it specially, so I don´t spend money on it. Plain and simple. At the end, I´ve played a lot this. I played world of warcraft fo years and spend a lot of money in the subscription. I don´t regret, but now it is valued Zero (couldn´t resist it 🤣 ). But here, even if I get bored, I have the NFT and may sell them

[lyric lodge]

honestly it looks better but really dont think its enough, i have no confidence, they have failed at everything they tried, literally everything

[twin sequoia]

No, they didn´t at everything. Othere way, we would´t be here talking about this. They did a lot of things very bad, and they still do. It seemed they had learned a bit about communication last year, but last changes to Zero were a bit opaque, that´s true. But we are still here with plenty of options

I bought 2 MC just for BP, the last 2 changes makes that spent money almost useless, but I adapt and try to make the best use of them I can. They will always be usefull for fuel and probably futures features (gyms and fusion)

[lyric lodge]

@vivid cipher can you also share the cost of on chain minting and tell us how much profit its being made, we know its very cheap but just would like more of a figure

thanks

[lyric lodge]

what i dont get is cost for miniting a common BP is same for rare, that means it could actualy cost you more to mint than sell

if they want to charge they should make common ones cheaper

[tardy falcon]

i have a feeling there wasnt much thought put into it...

maybe cover gas plus create scarcity

[twin sequoia]

At the moment all BP are equal. Higher T and S are more dificult to get for scanners, but researching them has the same probabilities. You decide the price at what you sell, so if you sell below cost, it is your problem. And all that you minted before now is more valuable. This should rise price of BP, but prior minted BP costed "0" (they really never cost 0, you had to use fuel for it)

[twin sequoia]

There are sanctum mesa request. Why would I mint things that cannot be sold at the moment, instead of completing missiong that will reward me for sure from revdivs?

"There will be"

[iron laurel]

I wish I enjoyed the game. I bought it thinking we would be playing an economic strategy game. Then I thought at least it will be the only way people can get cool skins.
I keep holding and hoping something will be created gameplay wise that will interest me. I had forgotten about the Sanctum Mesa requests. Maybe between that and gyms I can get my love back for my land.

[lyric lodge]

it really is a chore at the moment

and now even more

[twin sequoia]

Just, it is not much fun in tha way

And you didn´t realized things like ...

[oak ruin]

what are sanctum mesa requests?

[twin sequoia]

I bought all I saw at a cost lower than $0.3 xD

but for atlas and others because there are thousands of them

[twin sequoia]

you are not up to date, so complain knowing only a part of it

[lyric lodge]

our views and comments and thoughts are worth nothing, the team will do what they want and we have no say

[twin sequoia]

As market for BP is so low, there will be missions inside Zero to complete parts for Sanctum Mesa. For it, you will need to burn off chain BP with a new building (and probably elements and fuel) and you will get a share of revdivs as with fuel burn, but with BP. Instead of 5% like fuel, it is 1% or 2%, I don´t remember. It is not much, but it is a new feature and a new way of playing if you want

If you send 1% of all sent parts that week, you get 1% of the revdiv (that is 1%-2%)

[oak ruin]

so researching bluprints still worth it i guess

just not to mint them and craft armors hehe

[twin sequoia]

With MMO release it may change

[oak ruin]

i sold my podarium and all element converters i had to open room for more fuel converters and power stations

is there an optimal efficiency for fuel converters?

[twin sequoia]

yes. I also did that. Podarium now is not usefull and element converters only if you need it but with all maxed (but power stations) there is no much need for them

I only keep this one for fun until I need the space in the MC

[vivid cipher]

@lyric lodge I don’t have any answers but I’ll try to find some things out.

I do know that the Cost to mint on zkEVM is very low. My guess is ~$0.000x to $0.01 (maybe as high as $0.03). It’s cheap.

[lyric lodge]

ok thanks appericated , could you also find out how having us now pay for BP that were free it an improvement ?

[sacred mural]

An improvement for them 😂

[lyric lodge]

well thats what I would like clarfication on

[tardy falcon]

if anyone wants to take a spin on the rattydata zero page I am leaving it open for testing today... feel free to hmu with feedbacks

https : // rattydata dot com/zero-manager.html

[twin sequoia]

Ummm, is this new?

Before, refund for new buildings was always 0 when cancelling

[lyric lodge]

ah another "suprise" being slipped in ?

[twin sequoia]

may be, Or I don´t remember 😂 . Anyway, this is for the good

[minor pagoda]

You can burn on chain blueprints as well

[twin sequoia]

oh, cool to know I can do something I´ll never do 😂

[minor pagoda]

Minting could still be interesting as the BPs are now on a very tight bonding curve. Imagine holding 98% of the supply for Atlas and others can only research at very low odds, you can then mint and sell off your carefully curated monopoly for others to get 1% of revdis

[twin sequoia]

I know, but Atlas is not the best example as there are almos 20k BP (minted or not) haha

[minor pagoda]

Yeah fair, all but the 5 Alpha blueprints, those are stuck, curious to see how quick people will spam requests when they pop up

[twin sequoia]

Will santum mesa request be based somehow on available supply?

BTW @minor pagoda do you know if this will be fix when grouped by name?

[minor pagoda]

We are crafting them ourselves for now so long story short: yes

[raw inlet]

How about the ROI of a land tier 3 ?

Infinite?

[twin sequoia]

infinite divided by 0

[raw inlet]

Is too sad

Do you think?

[twin sequoia]

You should sell me your T3 plot at $1, so have infinite ROI over predicted ROI. Don´t you think?

[raw inlet]

Who sayd i had a land?

[twin sequoia]

I guessed, T3 is not very usual

[raw inlet]

I just question because i check the prices

So... What about people that is buying now ? They will not get back never their invest

[twin sequoia]

Purchase the higher tier you can afford and are willing to spend

Take it as a game with a different type of payment. If just for speculation, I cannot help

[oak ruin]

for these sanctum mesa requests we need to pay to mint blueprints?

[twin sequoia]

No, they just need BP, minted or not.

[oak ruin]

gonna build a bunch of research facilitiesd then i guess

[plain briar]

I think this is not a problem, this is not an investment, it a game

[lyric lodge]

really ? Cause that is not ho Kierna described it at all before the land sales, do you remember all that talk ?

@vivid cipher is there any update on how landowners now paying for BP when they were free is an "improvement " and also why we being charged almost 20 x what the team costs to mint on chain, not really happy to let this go without an honest answer

[plain briar]

It was probably investment years ago, when it was all just potential.

Now that it's just game, it's not something buyers now are going to treat as investment. I might be wrong. But I haven't seen info about it

[sacred mural]

If an investment turns into nothing or something else, that's the definition of a scam. And this one is a new version because the investors needs to pay after getting scammed lol

[lethal wyvern]

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[plain briar]

Question was, what do people buying lands now. People buying now are not buying to invest. That's all. Everyone who bought at release when prices were higher, that is investment.

Buying now is just game.

[lyric lodge]

yeah I a game we brought being told we could mint BP free and now we have to pay 20 x the cost of minting on chain, its fine for people like kieran who are minted

[plain briar]

How much did you pay?

[vivid cipher]

This is not new

[twin sequoia]

At first it was both an (risky) investment and a game and still is an investment and a game. But now that prices are more rational, it is more near to a game because of cost. And you still can take money out of it (revdivs) and sell the NFT. The error on my view is seeing it as only an investment. If you play the game, you already have value for it, so the investment will be always lower for you (me)

[lyric lodge]

i think i paid like 1400 for a tier 2

[twin sequoia]

That will be difficult to recover in itself by selling the NFT, I almost paid $450 for my first T1, fortunately moonpay rejected my debit card 😂 in 2022? I´m not sure of the year. And I finally bought it in 2023 at ~$250. I won´t sell it at current floor price, but I would sell it at $150 and don´t consider it a loss. I enjoyed it for a full year while developing it and since then it is being generating fuel for revdivs.

So, all in all, if you consider it both an investment and a game, the situation is not so bad.

[barren ocean]

Can we buy these credits with fuel that came from the weekly awards?

[tardy falcon]

no not really

but they should make it possible... would not be that hard to implement

[prisma canopy]

i bought a t3 and havent been playing. i just downloaded zero today and have no idea whats going on. im not happy about this “investment” but losing money on this is just one of my many investment failures i get that.

ig my question is to you guys is if there is any potential in this space and especially illuvium.

[plain briar]

Aybe founder might buy it back from you idk. These are his decisions I guess

[plain briar]

More time I spend here the less I believe so but I do enjoy the people and game closing isn't a big deal. People will move on and make content about other games. I can follow

[iron laurel]

Put this in Community Help but posting here too.
Zero won't load for me again on my PC it stays on loading screen.
I have signed out and in on the Illuvidex (how it worked before)
I have gone on Epic and verified it.
Uninstalled then reinstalled.
Any other quick fixes I don't know about that I should try?

[shut arch]

como se consiguen los creditos para mintear blueprints?

how do i get the credit to mint blueprints?

[shut arch]

had time ago and hired worker with that, id never thought i will need credits again

but now for minting bp its kind shitty who the hell will mint from base 0.40usd?

[twin sequoia]

Did you tried it on mobile? At first I cannot think of anything. Are you logging with the email of the correct wallet?

[twin sequoia]

It depend on when you bought the plot (at what price). It will be difficult that you recover the money if you bought at landsale, specially if you don´t play the game (although now it is not very important). I really believe that there will be better times this year, and I hope that also next one. With Deathmatch, TGC, MMO and other planned releases I hope it does. Then, who knows how the market will react

[plain briar]

Deathmatch will be interesting. Where does the money come from? Is it just me vs you and company gets a cut?

So if we put up €10 each, that's where the money comes from. Explaining it badly what I mean in English sorry

[iron laurel]

Mobile works and I have the correct wallet. I am going to have to bug report it I guess. Thank you!

[oblique mango]

Please feel free to read my ideas for Illuvium Zero at your leisure.

I'll also soon post ideas on how to retain new players and not force them to buy Illuvials before they've tested the game in the arena.

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1020759212172775464/threads/1500405530391216148

[whole spear]

Is it working in mobile for you or just not on pc

[iron laurel]

Works on mobile, just not on PC

[whole spear]

I’ll dm you

[sonic whale]

Does cutting down plant life offer credits? I remember a day when it did.

[radiant sky]

It doesn't anymore

[sonic whale]

was there a reason.... because minting is stuck behind a pay wall.. i would be okay with it if i could pay in fuel for credits but i dnt want to actually use my card for cash

[radiant sky]

i don't know.
I assume that's some contracts problematic with the appstores... basically they made sure you can only buy credits via mobile so they get their cuts... but that's just an assumption, we might here something about it in an upcoming townhall.

[sonic whale]

that sounds like a thing Apple would do -_-

thats still not cool tho, and def not a good look, for the game.. minting stuck behind a paywall that isnt crypto

[lyric lodge]

@vivid cipher hi mate are we going to get an update on zero and how the land owners now paying for BP is an "improvement" ? Thanks

[lyric lodge]

not only is it bad enough that they make us pay, but they way they did it , sneaking it in as an improvement, screwing over land owners again, honeslty its disgraceful.

oh and charging us 20 times its cost to mint on chain

[tranquil notch]

I thought the same first but then I was happy I could remove a lot of buildings and optimize my land. If you level the free tier and just use 1 or 2 workers for your lands then you have plenty credits left. And minting complete for free would also be not optimal for the economy and low flow prices. Let's see if they will adjust the cost to the actually minting and other cost. They burned to most money in devs and trying to make 5 games ones. So there is no revenue rn from illuvium zero. The cents for credits will not cover the dev , server costs or what ever ^^

[plain briar]

Makes sense ifs is it 1:19 revenue ratio, they cannot give away the cost

[sonic whale]

they tried making WAAAAYYYYYy to many games at the same time... should have just stuck to Areana and Overworld.. Land, that dumbshit illuvitars jpegs wasnt needed.......

[wanton canopy]

Hi, a while back I received some Illuvium Fuel Crates. I would like to use them to buy some Beyond Lamborghini D1sks. What is the status of fuel crates after the transfer to zkEVM? Are there any guidelines on how to access them and use the fuel to buy Beyond D1sks.
Is there still a market to buy and sell fuel crates?
Thanks!

[orchid light]

Hi can the team please make the text on the blueprints bigger and with more contrast? It's really difficult to read. I'm on the android app. Or please let me know if I should ask this in another channel.

[serene iris]

I think fuel crates were auto converted to new fuel in the migration... I think

[wanton canopy]

Thanks for the quick response. Are there any official postings about that? What was the conversion rate? I did not notice any bump in my fuel holdings.

[serene iris]

Cant remember sorry, was around ,migration time if you want to look back through announcements or maybe a mod will remember

[wanton canopy]

Thanks for the tip! I found this announcement, in case anyone else is interested:
Fuel Crates Fuel crates will not migrate as on-chain NFTs. Instead, crate ownership has been snapshotted, and the corresponding fuel value will be credited to players. Crates will remain visible as off-chain assets in Illuvidex as reconciliation completes.
This is a link to the source:
https://portal.illuvium.io/news/illuvium-collections-on-immutable-zkevm
I will dig around for any other references that indicate whether this has happened yet or not.

[twin sequoia]

Yes, all the fuel should be credited 1:1 in the wallet were the crates were

[vivid cipher]

It happened. When the immutable x to zkEVM migration occurred.

[tardy falcon]

clever

solves that problem XD

[iron laurel]

I am so nervous of deleting buildings I need that I want to ask to make sure.
I only need 1 Nexus for a 4 plot MC correct? While I am at it, do we only need 1 Engineering Workshop and Quantum Fabricant per city too or does each plot in the city need its' own?

[raw inlet]

What we need to farm now BP or fuel?

I don't understand too much and i'm tired to use the translator sometimes xD

[twin sequoia]

You need to build 4 Nexus at lvl 9 to have all building available. Once all four are at 9 (or the one in the plot missing, if you know which one is), you can remove 3. You may only have 1 engineering and 1 quantum at max lvl from start.

[twin sequoia]

To farm BP and fuel, the same as before. Research labs to farm BP (once the scanner discovered the biodata). And fuel extractors and fuel converters to farm fuel.

But now you need credits to MINT the BP you discovered

[sacred mural]

It's an improvement for their pockets

[iron laurel]

Thank you. Yes, all 4 plots have all 3 buildings at max level currently. 🙂

[twin sequoia]

Then you can remove 3 of each

[iron laurel]

I can't just pick randomly???

[radiant sky]

yes you can, but you you might want specific buildings on specific plots regarding of space management of your plots in your mc

[iron laurel]

I have been thinking about that. I did a lot wrong. Like building my Data Banks on my T3.😬
My city is one T1- blueprint oriented.
2 T2 and 1 T3. I am thinking of using one of the T2. The T1 seems better but with only one of those and not being sure what happens in future maybe a T2. Leave T3 as empty as possible for fuel.

[twin sequoia]

T3 is for fuel, elements and storage 100%. You can use T2 for both things. The fuel loss is not important as it is only +3 daily for each science building and 0.5 fuel less for each converter compared to a T1.

[oak ruin]

they should give back all the credits we spent! other than to get nerw workers! i used like hundreds for nothing basically, because i had to spare

now i got 1 and cant get any more

[turbid storm]

How long after I burn fuel does it become claimable

[twin sequoia]

After the restart of the cycle on Thursday at 0.0UTC. Sometimes immediately, sometimes had to wait a few hours.

[turbid storm]

Aww ok thank you. So it wont arrive in time before the disk sale ends. No problem I'll have to buy some direct

[lyric lodge]

@whole spear @vivid cipher Guys can we please have somne feedback on land owners having to pay to mint BP, I think every land owner would like to know how this is considerd an improvement and why the team is charging us 20 x the minting cost, I really feel like we deserve and honest answer. Kieran is always saying how open and transparent the team is, well here we go.

Just understand why you guys had to choose land owners to screw over, after all we have been through and still not honest answer. Just more like hey lets hope this thing goes away.

[whole spear]

I don’t have an answer other than what I already gave

Council is discussing it with team afaik

[lyric lodge]

Its funny the mods will call out people for ect ect, but when team members dont respond, ah thats ok.

[lyric lodge]

ok thanks are not supposed to vote on these type of things ?

we not

[whole spear]

Game design/decisions has always been team

[lyric lodge]

before they are impleneted

[lyric lodge]

is this game design ? I dont think so

[whole spear]

I’d think it is, but happy to disagree

[lyric lodge]

cool when are council discussing this, appeciate the response

[whole spear]

<@&814435151307866142>

[lyric lodge]

thanks

[atomic cove]

we'll hopefully have more details to give you guys by tomorrow.

[lyric lodge]

cool, thanks

[manic ginkgo]

Remember the 3 year ROI for landowners? I do! I feel your pain.

[manic ginkgo]

So, voting doesn't matter?

Voting doesn't matter guys, we make all the decisions!

And that's final!

[whole spear]

Not what I said

And that decision was voted on

[whole spear]

That game design decisions were up to the team

And of course you can have an iip to change something the team has done

It’s happened in past many times

[gloomy quarry]

Since when Rich? From what I remember it's supposed to be a DAO. For example it's Kieran's words that the next title after arena would be extensively researched and discussed with the community, voted through an iip and only then proceed. Did we have any of that? What about the pivot to Gauntlet? I can go on

And if that's true what's the point of having 10 council members for 5 years, what were they voting on? 😅

[gloomy quarry]

There are just as many or more examples of an iip passing only to be ignored and collect dust

[thorny crater]

Ah missed that update. When did it start costing coins/real money to mint?

If they reset all used tokens that each account/land ever hd this might be ok. But just raw dogging it like this is wrong

[quiet heath]

Hi all,

I was wondering if any of the content creators has done something like this:

Is there any youtube video on how to maximise your land fuel production?
Would it be nice to know how the set up / layout looks on T1 T2 T3 T4

-Fuel based setup
Or
-Blueprint based setup

Now that credits are required to mint blueprints instead of elements, I am planning in adapting my strategy and repurpose my land to fuel focus instead.
I am looking for some inspiration I suppose
🤣🤣🤣

Also on a side note, has a discussion already happend regarding a function where you can "remove / rearrange" all the buildings?
I am fininding now that I want to re-stategize, I will need to destroy majority of the power station to make space, shovel everthing to one side, start working on the opposite side, and once everything has been positioned I will need to build the remaining power station...
Very time consuming

[twin sequoia]

ZephurosX had videos on youtube and twitch. We have always asked for a feature to edit the plots without having to deal with the real layout. We know nothing about it, but I don´t think they should spend resources on it yet, if it is not easy, before MMO is ready

[whole spear]

I agree council isn’t necessary. But they have said they advise and approve these things like deathmatch you are speaking of. And they were voted in by the ppl

So dao still applies

[quiet heath]

Agreed,
No need to divert any resources as of now...

Thank you for the info!

[oak ruin]

@noble quest want to buy my megacity T4-T3-T2-T2 fully built? it gives me an incredible amount 500 fuel per week. i sell for 1/3 of what I payed for on the auction day.

i am in desperate need of money here 🙁

[gloomy quarry]

It could be if it functioned properly. Voted by the people is a slogan, not having much to do with reality

[whole spear]

I mean voting for council is on chain, doesnt get more reality than that i think

[twin sequoia]

You are doing something very bad. Just the fuel extractors in a T4 produce between 1350 and 1500 daily. 450 in a T3 and 150 each T2. So at least 2100 daily/14700 weekly. Plus passive generation from converters and active conversion if you use it.

[gloomy quarry]

Pointless topic that has been grinded many times over. 1 wallet being able to outvote a majority is not 'by the people'. One example out of many. Cheers

[whole spear]

Cheers mate

[lyric lodge]

thanks, whast the update ?

[atomic cove]

the higher minting cost compared to the IMX transaction fee cost shouldn't be this disproportional, and in the future this fee will be done with Fuel once it's integrated with IZ.

[iron laurel]

"shouldn't be this disproportional" meaning we will get charged only what Illuvium does to mint?

[atomic cove]

yes, there will need to be a minting payment though. Also, keep in mind landholders can use their own BPs offchain, minting is only required if you wish to trade it on the market.

[oak ruin]

I am talking about actual game fuel reward, not crypton, solon and hyperion

[shell phoenix]

4 credits to mint? I have to pay now? Wow. Not happy.

Can I earn anything with my resources anymore? My 2X2 city is maxed out on storage and I’m just burning as I collect now.

[twin sequoia]

I still don´t get the point on complaining (that much) for $0.40 a mint after buying a MC

[shell phoenix]

You don’t? I bought the Mega City a very long time ago. The value of those assets has tanked. I kept playing in part on the hope that maybe at least someday the blueprints that I’m stacking will be rare and have value. To keep playing and keep stacking cost me nothing other than my time. But now if I want to keep stacking on chain blueprints, I have to keep spending a few more dollars per week. For who knows how long. So now I have to decide if it’s prudent to send good money after bad. It’s just another $ suck from the project. This well is dry.

[tall canopy]

i just come back every few months to see if anything worthwhile has changed. til then i just put in 20 min a week to collect fuel and move on. I dont see the need to spend any more money on the game even if its .01

[twin sequoia]

I understand the complain, sorry. I meant to complain so much. I´ve been the same people in a lot of chats. I think and hope they will lower it to 1-2 credits but also I think it can be good for scarcity and market price. I bought a 2x2MC and a 3x3MC just for science, but I don´t think it is that bad. At the end, what I´m interested in is in the ecosystem and all the project. MCs are for flexibility and there are, and specifically there will more be things to do.

[lyric lodge]

land owners should be paying NOTHING, nothing, especially after all we have been through. @atomic cove how is charging us to mint part of game design, we need a vote on this. AI Response : If the game fully launched with free minting — not beta, not early access, not a promotion — and they are now charging for it, that is:

A breach of the original value proposition
Something you had a reasonable expectation would stay free
Being dressed up as "game design" to make it sound legitimate

Calling it game design after the fact doesn't make it game design. That's just spin

I would like to know how this is put into game design @atomic cove , so in regards to cost, what is it going to cost now ? " the higher minting cost compared to the IMX transaction fee cost shouldn't be this disproportional, and in the future this fee will be done with Fuel once it's integrated with IZ." Whey does this mean exactly and when will it change, bottom line, do we still need to pay real world money for our BP ? Also why was this announced under the radar and as an "improvement" , everyone wants to skirt around that one ?

[atomic cove]

I just got word from the team that this latest update will be reverted.

[lyric lodge]

awesome, so land owners dont need to pay for BP anymore ?

[atomic cove]

correct

just wait until the announcement comes for the change to take effect

[serene iris]

I'm still not sure what the plan is for Zero, but if you guys keep rolling out tiny updates that slowly change core systems. You are going to have whats left of the community sperging out every time. Would be really good to know exactly how everything is ment to work for both blueprints and Training gyms. Put the plan up for community discussion. We can then talk about whats good and bad before you make a change that nobody saw coming.

Still dont know what the point of moving a blueprint from offchain to onchain is....

[reef jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/anxious-pacing-back-and-forth-gif-23683072

wasting time and resources to go back and forth is crazy

[quiet heath]

Thank God it will be reverted back to normal!!!

One think that I will say and that we should not forget :
Average minting price for a T4 was around 15 ETH
Floor price now is less than 1
And ETH price is around $2.3k now, instead of $4k++ then...

We are not talking about few pennies here, so when changes like this happen/reverted it really make me loose trust in the game.
However I still belive in the concept, but I am a realist that many people will not recoup the money that they invested.

[iron laurel]

I agree, especially about training gyms.

Minting BPs is to sell or trade them. Don't have to mint them if you keep them in your wallet to use them in your own game.

[oak ruin]

plus they sell unique armor sets on their store. it was supposed that only players could make armor skins with our LAND

[reef jasper]

this.

[lyric lodge]

I mean i just dont understand how these types of things like charging us for BP even happen without Kieran approving it, I mean I just dont get it, when a company does things like this its not the staff that are accountable or decide , its the CEO and that Kieran. I assume he approved this, but before even taking it to the council ? Is that how it works @atomic cove , really cannot get my head around how this makes it to public and honestly I am kind of like wondering what else is brewing we dont know about, very thankful we dont have to pay, appreciated, but totally confounded by how it was done.

[lyric lodge]

but see its these types of things, no communication and I am sorry but it all goes to the top, Kieran is the man at the helm, I assume he controls all these major choices, just like any CEO.

[lyric lodge]

Its also really about the principle, the land was sold to use to mint BP, you cannot suddenly change that and do it sneakily, again who is approving these changes, if its not Kieran then who, and where is Kieran brother ? have all the bothers now left the project @whole spear ?

[whole spear]

Pretty sure most are aware grant has left a while ago

As for Aaron I mentioned it in general the other day

As for Kain he was never part of team or project

[iron laurel]

I also was against charging 50 cents a BP but I don't think it was one of the biggest major issues Illivium is facing. It is reasonable for Kieran to not make decisions on something like this.

I am happy that the team heard our concerns and made the change.

[coarse tide]

hi, is there a mod around? Some of my research labs don't allow me to select anything to research:? I cant open a support ticket..

[radiant sky]

can open a ticket on the homepage
andd ignore the guy he's a scammer

[lyric lodge]

oh yeah me too, but I wonder, should this not have been first taken to the council ?

[lyric lodge]

ah thank you i did not see this

Anyway really glad this was changed back and we got some results

[atomic cove]

not every game design decision is run by council before hand. We try to stay on top of things but the team has their own autonomy...

[lyric lodge]

I think one this big should have been reviewed, point is someone, somewhere gave this the green light and they must have had some sort of authority to do it.

[atomic cove]

there's a lot going on right now so some stuff can slip under the radar. I hope reverting this patch shows landholders that the team cares and is in good faith trying to do the best for the ecosystem.

[paper sleet]

If I have 130/205 data banks full can I delete some data banks?

[twin sequoia]

You should (I did), but you shouldn´t. If they revert the updated version because a few people complained too much, you may need to build them again. So wait for the next update to know what will happen in the end.

[paper sleet]

When is the next update?

[twin sequoia]

We usually never know

[iron laurel]

Anyone else having MC issues with building capacity?
I can't build and structure limit is showing under how many buildings I already have.

<@&795142782133207063>

[pearl dust]

Thanks Torial ❤️

[vivid cipher]

Did you recently remove any of the nexuses? You were thinking about it right?

[iron laurel]

Yes 2 out of 4 but that was yesterday and it was fine after that.

[vivid cipher]

Have you split your MC since then?

[iron laurel]

No

[vivid cipher]

Hmmm

[iron laurel]

I did have a plot error show up right before this happened so it probably had something to do with that, not sure what. Maybe I will rebuild the nexus and see if it changes anything

I cant even do that unless I destroy 150 buildings.
Oh this sucks.

[grand silo]

Hi All, my plots show off chain and on chain blueprints but it does not show in my passport wallet. Anyone able to share how I move them over.

[twin sequoia]

Very strange indeed. Do you remember the number before? Instead of 431

It happened to me with a MC I bought, but only 1 plot was missing the Nexus at lvl 9

[iron laurel]

I checked all my Nexus levels before deleting. All were fully upgraded.

I think it was 600 and something. Around 650 maybe? Don't remember exactly.

[native lichen]

Can someone please let me know the difference on chain/off chain blueprints?

[tranquil notch]

🙄Now i cant mint anymore because I don't have storage or morph. Today this ,today that, tomorrow something else and nobody knows . There is nothing to rely on. Yesterday arena , today mmo . Yesterday playable today laggy. Roll a dice 🎲

[native lichen]

Do you mean you need to build more storage for blueprints?

[tranquil notch]

Can I use my credits now or tomorrow/future will be another change ? 🎲

[vivid cipher]

On chain blueprints can be sold or transferred to another wallet/account. that’s it.

[iron laurel]

OK, Jesse was right. My issue was from deleting my Nexuses. Apparently that doesn't work for everyone to delete extra Nexuses on a MC.

[serene iris]

but why? Can they be used to fulfil the sancem mesa requests on chain or off chain?

[iron laurel]

Highly do not recommend.

[serene iris]

Do you have to move them onchain to fulfill the requests?

[vivid cipher]

That should be fixed. It should work.

[vivid cipher]

No

[iron laurel]

It does for me now but I have 2/4 Nexus currently and was told to not delete any for now.

[vivid cipher]

Yes.

[serene iris]

Why would you ever move them onchain then? to sell them? Wouldnt someone just buy the suit skin instead? You guys really need to show us the bigger picture for this system.... It seems way too complex

[native lichen]

Thanks for that. Im curious how did we even get off chain blueprints? And am i accidently minting them off chain instead of onchain?

[vivid cipher]

https://portal.illuvium.io/help-center/illuvium-zero-blueprints-on-zkevm

Minting is a bit of a technical term. It’s the action that creates an on-chain asset. Nobody mints anything off-chain. Blueprints that are found simply exist in the game system (off the blockchain) until the player chooses to mint the asset onto the blockchain.

[vivid cipher]

A blueprint is an ingredient or a part. People buy ingredients for cookies they plan to bake or parts for the cars they are rebuilding all the time. However, people also purchase premade cookies and working vehicles as well.

[twin sequoia]

When all 4 Nexus are at lvl 9, you can have 827 buildings. So, if you are sure it was 6XX, not all Nexus were at 9.

[iron laurel]

No they were, I checked twice. I figured out I got that number after I had already deleted one. I just didn't realize the number was dropping until I deleted another because I wasn't having a building issue until I deleted 2

[wheat vigil]

Did the level 5 ever get announced. Or is that dream dead right now

[vivid cipher]

No it has not been announced. I don’t imagine that to be possible anytime soon.

[brittle dagger]

As of today, what are Blueprints used for?

[hardy brook]

Devs are the end game of IZ 😅

[grand silo]

Any one able to help me work this out please? Much appreciated

[fossil galleon]

Wherever your lands are stored is where your on-chain blueprints should be I.e. passport or a h/w wallet address that’s connected. If the latter, I think you can use transfer assets in to move them to passport - the official mods would have a link to an article somewhere. I’ve done this - before we were on zkEVM though.

[grand silo]

Thanks Kannon. I must have my lands connected to my nano, been ages since inchecked it all. Thats why its not showing then. Appreciate the help.

[oak ruin]

Can someone explain why s there a build limit for ILV ZERO? My megacity says i cant biuld anything else and i still got plenty of room to build! wtf is that?

[tardy falcon]

theres a trick to get more buildings

[twin sequoia]

Did you ever check this number?

There´s been always a limit, depending on the lvl of the Nexus in the plots

[twin sequoia]

I preferred the minting to cost credits, even just 1. You may use elements for other future features instead of having to split them between any of them. Also, it is not free now, as it cost fuel. It is not much now, but it may be in the future. And costing credits makes it to be minted if you really want it on chain for something. Now, you just may mint because it is "free" and flood the market with blueprints, so the sell price will be lower at the end with minting with elements instead of credits.

[sullen anvil]

Can ranger be bought?

[oak ruin]

but why the heck is there a limit?? i have the nexus on maximum, of course, but mine is 767 limit

@vivid cipher explain?

[iron laurel]

You are going to drop this info and not tell us what the trick is????

[oak ruin]

a have a lot of empty space, this is total bullshit

@noble quest dont you agree? this needs to change

[vivid cipher]

I assume that you must have a megacity.

Each nexus for each of your plots provides up to 202 structures to your maximum limit. But if one of your nexuses are not at level 9 then it’s providing less than 202. If you removed a nexus before it reached level 9 then it can’t provide the maximum amount of buildings possible.

I have no information regarding the way you leveled up or removed your nexus buildings. If you share some more information regarding your 4(?) nexus buildings then perhaps we can figure something out.

Regarding the general concepts of a building limit… it’s an inherent gatekeeping tool in most resource management games.

[oak ruin]

i only have one nexus now. i removed the others the minute the megacity feature was added. no way i remember, but i assume they were all IX, no idea

[oak ruin]

in one that the land cost us thousands of dollars and is our NFT, we should be able to build all over the place.

you saying i need to clear room and build 3 nexus on my other plots wait all the time required to get IX, so i can get that 817 limit?

[twin sequoia]

You didn´t buy an NFT with unlimited building space, they all had a limit. I have 5 2x2MC and all have 817 structures available now, even after I have split and merged them again. The last I bought didn´t, so I built a nexus up to 9 and removed it after (when I checked 817 where available). I had to delete several powerplants first to be able to build it.

[vivid cipher]

That sounds like the way a player would have to do this.

I suspect that support could help you get the devs to find the information regarding your megacity that arguably should be readily available to players anyways (but apparently is not available). Information that would tell you which plot(s) need(s) a nexus upgrade. I’d guess that only one plot needs its nexus 8 limit upgraded to a nexus 9 limit.

[twin sequoia]

Yes, +50 is the last lvl, so only 1 from 8 to 9

[tardy falcon]

I forgot it’s been so long

Something about nexus

[oak ruin]

try to remembeeeer

[oak ruin]

who do i talk to?

[vivid cipher]

The (?) in the bottom right of the website. Or the report issue button in the menus of the zero game.

[oak ruin]

the HELP & SUPPORT button inside the options on the game leads to a site that doesn't exist

just FYI

[vivid cipher]

What OS do you use to play on?

[oak ruin]

don't know what "OS" means. operating system? I am playing on my PC, WIndows

[vivid cipher]

Yeah that’s right. Thanks

[thorny crater]

Is there a way i am allowed to make a bot to collect fuel for me?

Im lazy and if i can ill spend a few hours building it just so it can be ran every 24+ hours.

Or if there was a collect all button that would have/will be much better. Even the passive collects

[twin sequoia]

We have talked bout it several times, but Illuvium never said anything about it, AFAIK

[thorny crater]

I will not do it unless its ok of course lol. But thought i’d ask. Glad im not alone on this lol

[radiant sky]

Johnny was highly against it as far as i remember
Which i can unterstand since it's the only gameplay 😄

[twin sequoia]

Well, the gameplay is the development of the plot. To what extent is the recollection of fuel the gameplay? This would be the recovery of the invested money in the landsale.

BTW, who is Jhonny? 😅

[radiant sky]

that's basically the early game.

[radiant sky]

project lead of Zero before he left.
But was basically lead for everything we have in Zero now.... since development dind't really proceed after he left.

[tardy falcon]

RattyData is developing a full Zero Plot Management tool

It is primarily for plots that are already fully developed and makes it easier to manage plots from one interface

[atomic falcon]

Hello

[twin sequoia]

good night

[twin sequoia]

It also happened to me with a new MC. It had all Nexus at lvl 9 already built, so I started removing them. After the 3rd I checked just to be sure that it was all ok, but it wasn´t, available building was being reduce too. I split the MC and formed it again but the available building remained low. I removed another Nexus and it reduced the number again. I think this didn´t happen other times (several months ago)

So after removing like 200 power plants (lvl 1), I finally can

several days to recover all the space 🙁

[iron laurel]

I am so sorry to hear that. I wish it had been just me. 😔

[amber hamlet]

I can't wait until I can do more with my land

I know the day is coming

I'm patient

[serene iris]

So are the few who are still here!

But your right, very much looking forward to some small changes! Especially training gyms

[amber hamlet]

Training gyms will be amazing, can't wait for that

[subtle frost]

I wonder if I accidentally used my coins or did coins suddenly got reduced

I keep clicking things and suddenly I don't know where I used some of my conis

not sure if any changes happened recently

[twin sequoia]

It sometimes happened to me too, long ago. I guess I clicked too fast and accelerated something

[thorny crater]

For a few days minting quietly was costing coins. They reversed it now though

[thorny crater]

This is exactly what i would make, or very similar lol, i just don’t want my account to get banned.

[silent mountain]

and sometimes new ones like me, I have found new confidence in Illuvium and decided to investing in Zero

[odd pumice]

I bought coins haha and the idea was not bad - but we allready payed for land..but 1 coin per mint would also be ok for me

[thorny crater]

I wouldn’t have cared either if they refunded all coins. But silently doing this was wild, and having max lands made me sad lol

[queen folio]

Hey all— if I’m looking to start optimizing my lands (T1-T2) for fuel production and the space is already full, is it best to just try and shift everything around one piece at a time and also remove buildings I know I won’t use?

Also… I’m guessing, should I deselect “repeat” on my buildings and just start moving once all the processes have completed?

[twin sequoia]

If you don´t need the buildings, why to keep them? You need to space the fuel converters for max efficiency, there is a filter for it. I would remove all the plants and some power stations to have the space to move them around. And then build the power stations again.

[twin sequoia]

On what buildings do you mean? I can only tink on element converters. For extractors it doesn´t mind, as they cannot be moved. And you shouldn´t be using fuel conversion as the leaderboard for production was closed months ago. If you don´t need the element for the next cycle, I would stop it so it is easier to move them around as needed and your time at that moment is more important.

[queen folio]

Yeah, I built on my lands quite some time ago and didn't optimize for anything, really. But now that I will likely just work on fuel, I'm trying to figure out next steps.

So I have the fuel/element extractors which will stay... but then I have element converters, scanners, materials lab, some transducers... also all the element storage buildings which I can cut down on

[twin sequoia]

It depends on if you plan to develop BP or not. I would if it is a T2-T3, as it is an additional way of playing and you have resources for both. I like to reserve T4 for fuel only and on T1 it is up to you. You can only focus on 1 thing and blueprints for T5 will be very expensive to have (specially in terms of time).

[brittle dagger]

When is the gym release date?

Does anyone know?

[twin sequoia]

No, but there will be TH soon, they may update on it

[open stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-husky-soon-gif-7801078

[raw inlet]

I still don't know what I can do in Zero, Can I sell Bluprints only?

[tardy falcon]

• build and play the game
• research and mint BPs
• burn fuel for share of weekly revenue

[raw inlet]

Thanks

[ruby merlin]

When leader board with Zero?

[brave wasp]

There is one for weekly fuel burning.

[ivory badger]

I have both on chain blue prints and off chain blue prints, but I can’t seem to mint the on chain and I have a ton of those , how do we mint those

[serene iris]

Do you mean how do you create skins? If so that is turned off currently.

We are not really sure why you need onchain blueprints right now. There is ment to be a crafting system coming via the mmo and you will need to blueprints to build things... somehow

[ivory badger]

I think the on chain blue prints I have are from before the change , I know some are from when IZ was a new game

[vivid cipher]

Onchain blueprints are by definition already minted.

[ivory badger]

So the on chain blue prints I have are already minted and the off chain blue prints are the ones I still need to mint ?

[vivid cipher]

Yes. Except the only reason to mint blueprints is to sell or transfer them to another account.

[brittle dagger]

What are blueprints used for?

[twin sequoia]

Currently for nothing. Before they were used to create skins in Overworld. We guess they will also do in Obelisk Rising, but still don´t know what the system will be for skin. Also, in Zero a new type of mission (Sanctum Mesa requests) will be implemented to burn blueprints in exchange of revenue distribution (as with fuel but with less quantity available, 2% instead of 5%) until a viable market for blueprint exists.

[nova hull]

Has the on chain issue been addressed for blueprints? All of mine are “on chain” and I’m unable to mint

[autumn elbow]

When can we earn again with zero, or a leaderboard indeed ?

[twin sequoia]

Production leaderboard was discontinued before migration and won´t come back. Fuel Burn leaderboard is working as always.

[vivid cipher]

I don’t think I’ve heard of this issue. Could you share some more information?

Are you saying that the blueprints in the game that are marked as “on-chain” are not actually on the IlluviDex? If they are on-chain and on the IlluviDex then they have already been minted and that is working as intended. Only off-chain blueprints can be minted to move them on-chain.

I’ve got on-chain blueprints in the game that also appear on the IlluviDex as my assets.

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/ranger/0x7d9b5a3268c087b522dcb9af621fd328350f5dfc?game=all&unlisted=true&viewMode=all-items&layout=list&catalogue=Blueprint&OrderBy=blockchain.tokenId&OrderByDir=asc

My off-chain blueprints are the only ones that appear as possible to mint. I could do more research in the game to get more off-chain blueprints.

[nova hull]

ok, that must be the case. already minted vs blueprint

@twilit bough willing to sell a megacity?

[jaunty forge]

my first t5s3

[amber hamlet]

Niceeeee !! Still waiting patiently

[amber hamlet]

Can't I just hire a landscaper and pay him under the table instead of waiting for my builders..? Come on

[nova hull]

What land? T3 or T4?

[jaunty forge]

t3, I have 3 land, 2 t3 and a t4, my best land is a t3 than my t4 than the other t3 is about half the luck of the first t3 its crasy...

[red stratus]

I want to start today, any tips for a beginner? Is this game still paying well?

[open stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/kenny-were-the-millers-you-guys-are-getting-paid-will-poulter-gif-15947352

[twin sequoia]

ofc

[twin sequoia]

I think that it never did. The airdorps were very goods, but that was not from revenue distribution. Play the game if you like it. Or invest in it if you think it will do well in the future. Or both things. But right now it doesn´t pays out if you only look for earning money.

[nova hull]

I had a bunch of zero illuvials and facts when I transferred my T2 land where’d they go?

[tardy falcon]

i dont think that stuff transfers with the plot

just buildings afai remember

[twin sequoia]

You transferred to another passport account? then they are lost. Only buildings and it level is kept when transferring to another passport account. You can transfer to other wallets linked to the passport account and keep everything. But if you link the wallet to a different passport account, it is also lost too (as well as fuel and elements).

[nova hull]

oops

[nova hull]

why aren't they just actual illuvials? seems like a simple fix. Catch actual illuvials / fuse them. If the game wants to charge for fusing in overworld, do that. But give 75% discount to land owners for fusing. Simple fix, make land valuable and allow trading for fusing.

expensive lessons in this game

[twin sequoia]

Zero is not for capturing Illuvials, and it never was. It is for getting Biodata to research blueprints, which cannot be created in other way.

[nova hull]

But why? And why not illuvial?

[reef jasper]

because the overworld is for that.. or was. Now it will be Obelisk Rising

[thorny crater]

I hope they put our land in overworld one day. It would be cool to walk up to you land enter it and pay ton use the gym….not sure if gym stuff is still being talked about

[nova hull]

so it is separate games, but someone arena uses illuvial, not beyond or zero

need to connect them all

[twin sequoia]

@copper inlet still things are weird with BP. I have these from Pterodactyl line onchain and it agrees with zero.

But I bought some on offer 1 hour ago and it is screwed up. My inventory in the collection states that I have 4, but I bought 2+3 (we know Immutable don´t show purchases with offers the right way) and they are not shown in the list of my assets or inside Zero as onchain BP

Does the onchain assets only refers to the minted and not the purchased?

[copper inlet]

there is an issue currently being fixed (fix developed, waiting to go live) where when you purchase, we flag it as Off-chain, soon all should be showing correctly

[twin sequoia]

Yes, I saw it offchain but I wasn´t sure about it being real

I stopped tracking BP but in my old registers I have 3 off chain and 1 on chain for rhamphyre

anyway, if I purchased 2+3, it is not possible to have only 4 😂

[reef jasper]

the original idea had them all connected. They still are, just in different ways. Beyond is its own thing. Arena/OW/Zero are connected.

[blazing ferry]

Will this next update fix missing off-chain blueprints? I'm still missing 1994 blueprints!

[copper inlet]

not part of this release, but I am checking with the team 🙏

[shut arch]

the market of bp is off? i cant see any

[oak ruin]

A T4-T3-T2-T2 megacity generating this per week feels bad

If it was back on overworld runs, i would take what 10 weeks for 1 stage 3 run?

@copper inlet

[copper inlet]

think I didnt get the question?

[vivid cipher]

The amount of fuel distributed is dependent upon the amount of fuel being purchased. So there’s less when there’s globally less fuel being purchased and more when there’s more revenue from fuel sales.

[amber hamlet]

Bro can't wait for a Zero announcement 😜

[amber hamlet]

Hmm.. good to know, thanks 🙏

[reef jasper]

SAME

[brittle dagger]

I have a doubt, is it possible to generate an infinite blueprint?

[bitter glade]

@here

There has been talk about a mini game that could provide a bit of fun and maybe even some connection to the main game. In #809220563397902346 we should deliberate on the final decision, but I think it is good to have a clean chat where everyone can voice their ideas. In other chats we have had some possibly unrealistic mini game ideas such as 'remake warcraft 3' and 'make an autobattler' (wut?).

Let's generate some discussion. I'll try and help to explain what is realistic and what is not, or just give some advice on how it could link in with the existing game. But I want to open the floor to the community, let you put on your thinking caps, and see where you guys land.

Keep in mind this would be built by a separate team and not affect the main game's production. Because it is a separate game I think it would be prudent to think of ways that it could pay for itself.

[sly leaf]

Pokémon clone of illuvium?

Game boy style?

[wanton mist]

Beauty Contest? haha

[night storm]

whats your favorite position haha

[lapis cipher]

Good games with some ILV rewards will increase user stickiness.

[bitter glade]

The main game includes a collectible RPG. Making a 2d version of the main game might not be the best.

[sly leaf]

Wanna hold a game jam?

[stable bramble]

What about a Warcraft III-esque Auto Battler?

[dusk flame]

another collectible games that gives you collectibles for your collectibles!

[sly leaf]

Aww so the minigames development are not open to community developers

[edgy monolith]

Just make an anime 😂😂

[opal harness]

mini game has to be simple. could do a very generic card battler using 2d art of the monsters, release nft card packs of them, simple stuff.

[edgy monolith]

Every successful gacha game does it

[dusk flame]

a hearthstone of the monsters

magic the illuvium