🎮〕illuvium-zero

[twin sequoia]

Currently only Top 50 get rewards. There was comments about increasing the rewards for IZ LB, but probably increasing current rewards, no rewarding Top 100, what I think would be a better move

In this moment, #50 needs 44k points, so around 85k at the end of the week, Collecting 3 times a day 20 collector in each plot (the minimum to compete in LB in my view) with 3 T1 it should be enough but some weeks I´ve seen around 100k so a 4th plot (or 2T1+1 T4 or 3 T3 would be a good idea to be sure).

[radiant sky]

i haven't watched the scoriox ama yet where we had some leaks, but i doubt we will get it this month or next month.
There is an upcoming Townhall about the MMO

Could be a question for it...
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1423418917216583712

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/number1-benmaller-benmallershow-mallermilitia-one-gif-27665694

[junior abyss]

I'm honestly thinking about turning my current IMX into ETH and getting real T1 plot of land instead of just doing zero as a free to play user, I don't even care about the leader board thing at the moment either

[twin sequoia]

Just do it if you like de game. The price of a T1 is like buying any game and then you don´t need to pay more never, but to recover burning fuel or selling the plot in the future.

[tall canopy]

Anyone have this issue of losing credits out of nowhere? Few weeks back I had over 200 credits. Then one day I signed in it was in the hundreds and now today it’s at 67.

[twin sequoia]

No, are you sure you didn´t use it speed up things?

If not, open an ingame support ticket

[woven tangle]

Is anyone interested in Fully Developed Tier 1 Lands — each with a 20% cooldown bonus?
All have 20+ Level 6 converters, optimized layouts, and produce 1,500+ leaderboard points every 6.5 hours.
I’m currently taking offers and also looking to buy more lands to work on — let me know if you’re interested!

P.S. I can’t sell to leaderboard spot #2 or #3 😆

[fast cliff]

dear all, once mined blueprints, where did you usually find the value/price from? Illuvidex, tokentrove, any other places? What if your blueprint does not have price available there? I got a "Kukka Hexasuit", but did not find any information from anywhere. Google said this blueprint does not exist......

[woven tangle]

hmm look up the suite it self

[manic gyro]

i am looking for a t2 plot and i want to do a trade for some illuvials or beyond cards plot can empty or build up. let me know if you are up for a trade

[lyric lodge]

are there anymore tier 5 stagr 3 BP to collect other than these ones below ?

What am i missing still, is there a resource to check @radiant sky thanks !

[lyric lodge]

ho much points does fully optomosied T3 land produce about ?

thanks !

not for at least 2 years

[radiant sky]

umbre is actually a t4 stage 3 🙂

You can see a picture in the pin where i wrote down how many BP etc you can get, there are all Illuvials listed according to tier

[lyric lodge]

Thanks

[twin sequoia]

I would say between 35k (20 converters with 16% path bonus and collecting 3 times a day) and 51k (22 converters with 20% path bonus, collecting 4 times a day and taking advantage of the path bonus for fuel extractors) points for LB.

Yes, they still are focused on the MMO and will be for quite some months. In the October AMA, tomorrow, we may get some insights on this and the ETA for moving or hiring developers to IZ.

[woven tangle]

I have 22 convertors on mine so 1650 every 6.5 hours and then extractors 6 of them at 75 every 20 hours plus other resources they are decent good for Great for NFT minting to

[foggy sage]

is it possible with a T4 land to actually slef fund T3 runs in over world at the moment?

[radiant sky]

no

[copper falcon]

Hi guys! Is there an understanding if bluepritns from IZ will be used in MMO Lite at all? As I get it, in MMO all cosmetics will be acquired in MMO itself, as a loot.

[radiant sky]

Good question for upcoming townhall i guess:

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1423418917216583712

[copper falcon]

Thanks Spoon. Will ask it there. I thought may be it was asked before and there is a plan about this.

[copper falcon]

Btw i have another one. I don't see any difference in looks of different suit skins for the same illuvial origin, so say Kukka Exosuit looks the same as Kukka Hexasuit etc. Are there plans to add variety here? Sorry, may be it is a known thing, i just haven't followed for quite a lot of time.

[radiant sky]

It is a repeatedly discussed topic between Council and team.
We/they are aware that the current system is more than suboptimal and try to figure out what could work better to please everyone.

[copper falcon]

ah i see, thanks for the info

i wonder is there any sense to discover all possible blueprint types, i have a lot of them on my Passport over all my landplots, but the more i get them, the less i am sure it is worth it at all🤔

btw am i right that the total number is 130 * 22 = 2860?🤔

[radiant sky]

sounds about right, yes

[copper falcon]

Btw i remember that at some point there actually were different designs for armor types, was it considered too much of artists effort to develop all of them and the system was streamlined to the current state?

Hmm, and onother one. Kieran mentioned in the recent talk with Scoriox some new illuvials in the current wave, like wave 1.b or something. Will they also be available for scanning/blueprints discovery?

[radiant sky]

From what i understnad and i feel is totally reasonable myself, it is too much artwork in generall with the current system.
VFX or anything that makes the skins really interesting to buy are not even added yet.
And doing such a work for every new set seems just too much, especially considering the small team and the big scope on other stuff like battlepass art, mmo art, beyond art and possible other future expansions where artwork is needed.

[copper falcon]

yeah, i also feel like this, and was skeptical that the Team will be able to do all those different designs for every new wave...

[radiant sky]

I honestly didn't found time to watch that AMA yet. (Is on my list to do asap)

From what i understood from a post of Aaron a while back in Arena channel, set1.5b will have changes to the current set and introduce some of the mobs appearing in overworld to use especially in Arena.
So i don't think they will be included for scanning, especially since the system needs a rework because it is already too much work to do all those skins we currently have on a premium level

[copper falcon]

yeah, i see..

i suppose all 18 different suit blueprints for every illuvial should be renamed as components or shards or something, and you need to get them all, and burn them, to get one skin of the illuvial type for all possible designs of suits if they appear in future. this would conserve the current system in IZ, and would be logical in other games. also good for economy:)

[copper falcon]

Hi @radiant sky ! Am i right that there are only suits based on Lynx blueprint, and no suits based on blueprints of lynxes of stage 2 and 3?

[radiant sky]

yea, something along those lines got mentioned in the feedback thread about current Zero cosmetic system.

[radiant sky]

not sure i understand that question right.
But you can get lynx s2/3 blueprints for armors.
But.... as far as i know, you can't forge them currently.

[copper falcon]

yep, i meant you can discover blueprints for all stages of lynxes, but seems like there is only 1 type of skin to forge, based on Lynx (stage 1 lynx).

which is unfortunate, all those t2 t3 lynxes suits could look very cool🥲 may be one day the Team will create them all🙏 when MMO/Arena are successes, generate moni enough to have more artists in the team...

[woven tangle]

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[copper falcon]

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[hot prairie]

Can i make an illuvium account after i first logged in with google account? Bought some stuff already

[twin sequoia]

I´m not sure, but don´t think it to be a problem. And you should be able to link the accounts to transfer the stuff if you want.

[vivid cipher]

Just don’t use the same email address.

[woven tangle]

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[woven tangle]

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[woven tangle]

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[unborn osprey]

any updates on if anyone will touch this game again and if we are ever getting any updates?

[woven tangle]

Yes sometime after the MMO which should generate more income for land owners than prices of lands will go up but if you have lands you want to sell at all time lows let me know

[woven tangle]

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[woven tangle]

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[woven tangle]

just hit 500k in leaderboard points woot woot

[tardy fern]

Hi guys what’s it like owning land atm?

[solar swallow]

Someone know what to do to switch research of blueprints? I'm stuck on same 5 for two last week's and no matter what I'll do they switch to same 5 after I launch app next day to collect

[radiant sky]

click the activity tab at the very bottom left, switch to science tab and deactivate the repeat function.

[solar swallow]

No, I didn't meant that. I can do everything to cancel my research and then start new illuvials then when I comeback next day they back to what I had before

If You know what I mean

[radiant sky]

hmm... seems a weird bug i haven't seen before.
probably best to contact support with clicking the "report an issue" button ingame.

do you switch between mobile and desktop, or just play on 1 device?

[solar swallow]

Just mobile

[copper falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/rdbtc-money-printer-mmt-gif-9323121353650631835

[solar swallow]

Few mins ago

And now

Back to old ones 😤

[radiant sky]

weird.
never heard of that before.
i guess you have to go via support and i assume they manually have to "unstuck" the situation.

anyways i would be curious what would be the workarround when you got a response.

[twin sequoia]

And you get blueprints from the old ones? It may be just and UI glitch. Anyway, the support ticket is necessary to fix it.

[solar swallow]

Ye i get duplicates from old ones if i get them

[twin sequoia]

Then it is a serious bug

[solar swallow]

when trying to transfer skins from land that is on ledger in to passport?

it feels like there is no prompt to connect my ledger

ok managed to handle that 🙂

how can i use skins minted at IZ in Arena

or thats not possible yet?

[radiant sky]

when you are in the arena menu, click on ranger or drone depending on which skin you want to apply.

[solar swallow]

Ye but is there any delay time after transfering to my passport or do i need to use those? or they just need to be in my wallet?

[radiant sky]

skins just need to be in your wallet.
But... You can't apply any Lynx skins currently, they don't show ingame unfortunately

[solar swallow]

Ok, maybe it needs some time then because I have multiple and they doesn't appear ingame

I just transferred then tho

[radiant sky]

you might need to restart your client to load them up

[solar swallow]

When I made that post with screen of failed transfer

Ye ye I tried few times. I'll check on it tomorrow

[radiant sky]

hmm... may i ask which skins you crafted and don't show up?

[solar swallow]

like those

[ebon peak]

Hey

I have a question

There’s a guy who named Sellerrus in land holders

I checked his inventory and he has just 2 plots of land but he is always in top 5 rank

How it’s possible?

[radiant sky]

rest of his lands are on a secondary wallet

[ebon peak]

How the ranking system works?

Can someone explain pls

[edgy current]

These are not skins, they are blueprints.

[radiant sky]

will double check tomorrow, i might have crafted them myself.
But at least all stage3 should work, i f i remember right Torial crafted all of them

[solar swallow]

ill check later again maybe it was just some sync issue

between client and passport

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[radiant sky]

indid, as AtotheG mentioned, make sure you crafted the skins out of those blueprints at the forge in sanctum mesa

[solar swallow]

ah

ok i never did that for sure

is there some database how they look like? before ill mint them into skins?

like can i see that ingame?

[radiant sky]

You can see a rough picture of them

[radiant sky]

can also check on the illuvidex, if someone has minted them already you see a better picture there

[ebon peak]

How it’s possible when you have just 2 plots of land?

[radiant sky]

Je has more, but on a linked secondary wallet

[pearl dust]

More lands on another wallet

[pearl dust]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-day-bill-murray-oui-do-you-speak-french-gif-12697588

[ebon peak]

How many ?

more than NCC?

[pearl dust]

Afraid I'm not sure how many lands he owns

[ebon peak]

May i have the name of linked wallet?

And how can i link another wallet?

[pearl dust]

Again, I don't have his personal wallet details I'm afraid. It's likely just on a secondary wallet.

But it was more the point that he has more than the 2 lands, that is how he's achieving higher scores - But I don't have that info to share

[ebon peak]

Ok thnx

[ebon peak]

What about this

[pearl dust]

Go to your settings - https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/account/settings -
From there you can link a secondary wallet

[ebon peak]

Thnx mate

[pearl dust]

My pleasure

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-sparta-leonidas-fall-gif-8139307

[twin sequoia]

Yes, he has more, but only 1 T4 and no MC. I don´t know inf NCC has MCs. T4 and MCs (with a T4) are important for LB too (but not so much as the number of plots). Anyway, the important points are; how many plots are they using; how many converters in each land and how many times they collect each one daily.

[woven tangle]

They are Magical land

I did stream my settup on youtube and twitch if anyone would like to see just search zephurosx channel

with 3 lands you could get in top 50 easy i think

[ebon peak]

Ok guys, thnx

[unborn osprey]

anyone have a table or something where I can follow what blueprints I collected and what I still need so I know what to research?

[lyric lodge]

Hi everyone! I've been playing Illuvium Zero for a few weeks now and I currently have 2 plots. I'd like to know if the free plot is also taken into account in the ranking or not?

[radiant sky]

no, free to play plots are not counted

[lyric lodge]

Ok thank you

[twin sequoia]

There was a google doc some people shared months ago. I don´t see a pin for it, but you needed to be given access for it. Does @radiant sky know something about it?

BTW, I got to this interesting story from 2021. So we are drones, I hope it is finished some day 🙂

[radiant sky]

if i remember right it was a community member that did it.
I think there were even multiple.

But also... it's like 30 mins of your time to build it yourself 😄
Doing it yourself might be more efficient than asking arround and find it or not in the end 🙃

[twin sequoia]

Yes, 2 at least. The long part would be to write down all the names of the Illuvials, specially grouping them by Tier and Stage.

[short thicket]

Hi there, I want to buy a land again and start playing but i've seen that crypton is no longer needed for fuel. Can someone explain how do resources work now and how do fuel is obtained?

[radiant sky]

Can check pins in here and look for "how fuel burn cycles work"

[short thicket]

thanks!

but still, how is it generated? and what is the role of the resources now ( crypton, solon, hyperion ) ?

[radiant sky]

you generate crypton/solon/hyperion with either fuel extractors or converters

[short thicket]

and then you combine them into fuel? or the fuel shown for travle in overworld is actually crypton ?

[radiant sky]

Zero fuel is not linked anymore to Overworld fuel.

[short thicket]

oh

[radiant sky]

You have the 3 different kind of fuels in Zero and then you have the unified fuel the DAO sells

[short thicket]

ok, and is crypton relevant now? since the principal role of it was to travel?

[radiant sky]

as relevant as the other 2 fuels

[woven tangle]

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[gleaming sigil]

How does the blue prints work? Can I get +1 of the same blueprint or onky one of each.

[twin sequoia]

You can check the pins for more information. There are some changes from its original behavior. In summary, researching biodata you can get blueprints, which are unique and permanent to the plot (but if you sell the plot, then they are lost). You can mint them as many time as you want (as long as you have enough elements and fuels in the plot) to convert them to blueprint NFTs. This NFTs can be transferred to another account, sold in Illuvidex or used in Overworld to mint skins (which also are NFT and can be used by yourself, transferred or sold).

[prisma trout]

Is this legit? It was sent by email. Has anyone else recieved this offer?

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[radiant sky]

scam

[serene iris]

Yo! My few, but very dedicated Zero peeps! Please check out my feedback thread about Iluvium zero! Heres the link #1427223262894620682 message Lets get talking about easy changes and intergrating land utility into the new mmo NOW! not after they finish developing the mmo. Owning land should provide utility in the upcoming mmo, no be an afterthought once they are done with it!

[prisma trout]

@serene iris 👍

@radiant sky
Thanks...I thought so

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-goku-dbz-dragon-ball-super-saiyan-gif-8246706

i am popping off over here woot

[celest wagon]

We need millions of players to make the land's Bluprints profitable.I hope the MMO will attract

[twin sequoia]

Did something happen in Arena on the 10th? it was improving quite good until then

Or just testing on dashboards?

Also something disappeared from here, I don´t remember what the fourth line was, only that the sum was just past 146ETH

[gleaming sigil]

thanks

[radiant sky]

Illuvium: Zero High-Level Guide

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uXPafD4_6P25MmCl7yxu4cIeO-T6HSLhN0D5SMBRW4E/edit?tab=t.y426u0r8z9g8#heading=h.86j4fnu05oj2

[viscid bolt]

Has anyone else had issues with the website recently, ie the banner at the top with the pull down menu for your name not being there and the square nft's in your account now having wonky formatting?

[twin sequoia]

Not in general. If something strange happens, I just refresh the page (usually force the refresh with ctrl+F5 - in windows - as in Illuvidex some content seems to be "heavily cached")

[viscid bolt]

I tried that and tried deleting the cookies, etc. No dice. Also, the user interface for Zero where clicking on the resource indicator used to give you the amount of time left for it to be done, now it doesn't, it only gives you how many fuel? it takes to complete it.

[woven tangle]

HJweiwu001 Congrats on second place bro

https://tenor.com/view/joker-gif-25596191

[radiant sky]

should have a timer, was just shortly not in during a recent patch but got fixed.
Might need to update Zero-app and restart your device every once in a while to help fix your errors.

[viscid bolt]

Thank you for the tip! Just updated IZ and I see the time. I appreciate it. Do you have any tips for the website 🙂

[radiant sky]

sometimes it takes like 10 sec to load the name tag button but always showed up for me so far.
Clearing browserdata and resating your brower usually fixes all weird individual glitches.

[woven tangle]

I was half asleep last night and forgot to collect on some of my lands lol

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/three-little-piggies-building-three-little-pigs-brick-brick-house-gif-16868386603351266735

Always work to be done

[queen folio]

Hey all-- is it possible to somehow see which blueprints I am currently minting with the Zero Point Transducer? I want to start minting another blueprint but don't want to accidentally start minting the same BP that's already being minted, if that makes sense.

I just forget which BPs I've already started minting in all the transducers after a day or 2 passes 😅

[iron laurel]

No there isn't and it has always sucked because I forget too.

[twin sequoia]

That makes complete sense but, at the moment, it is not possible. Wait till it finishes and you should write it down somewhere for the next one. Once minting finishes, it may tell you what was minted, or not, or the wrong one, still not stable. But in your account you will get the minted NFT in a few seconds

This reward showed today

Could it be an adjustment from when bought fuel under price was returned?

[woven tangle]

our prize pool just doubled Zero got some love

[twin sequoia]

ouch, I didn´t want to fight for 3rd, too much work to do but I may try

$120 each week may do it

Anyway, I would had preferred it to be extended to top100 players

[mortal mural]

no idea i just accepted and bought a battleboard lol

[woven tangle]

just baught 2 more lands woot

go for 3rd bro

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-gif-22546926

[twin sequoia]

Be carefull, 3rd is not so far from 1st xD. I just don´t think it dererve the time

[woven tangle]

I would love the challenge and its lonely at the top

[hearty cradle]

congrats on the payment guys

[serene iris]

Thank you..... still down on land 🤣🤣

[waxen kiln]

Where is the rewards dashboard?

[twin sequoia]

@atomic cove you should do the announcement before do the reward available #📣〕announcements message 😂

[twin sequoia]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/rewards

[atomic cove]

haha, the team was too quick for me 😅

I also need to sleep

[twin sequoia]

Uff, I started 2 yesterday night, I should start another 3 o 4 today but it is being kinda of hard

[waxen kiln]

I only have fuel rewards, can I sell that fuel or only use it?

I thought burning my fuel in illu. Land would make me eth.. not just give me fuel..

[radiant sky]

never looked at it on mobile 😄
You should be able to switch the reward from fuel to eth for both of those Reward topics. (might click on the fuel?)
On desktop there's a switch for it see screenshot

[waxen kiln]

Ah I see, was on desktop mode on mobile I see

Thanks

[twin sequoia]

Yes, the mobile version of Illuvidex is not very friendly

[pine kestrel]

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[radiant sky]

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[harsh dew]

#📣〕announcements message

[woven tangle]

I understand I work on my lands based on level highest levels first lower levels last and some times I don't get to the lower level ones but its nice to have lands ready to be upgraded

[real salmon]

what was the criteria for this distro, i purchased land on the 1st sale and have operated from day 1? I dont see any rewards on my dashboard

[woven tangle]

I think it was for people who where selling the fuel before they change to the new fuel system

[twin sequoia]

I keep several of my lands at lvl 0 because if I start one, some type of TOC makes me being on it almost 24/7. Now I´m stopping to upgrade power stations. It doesn´t save much time, but make it a bit easier and there is no need to have everything like 😅

[twin sequoia]

Request them to be added to the Tutorial section in the news page

[twin sequoia]

Will there be an article in the News section? the Image of the announcement makes me think so, but I´m not sure and could help people like @real salmon and me understand it better.

[radiant sky]

The criteria was fuel sales during that time-period.
If you didn't sell fuel, you are not eligible.
I would try to clear browser data and login fresh into your account and head over to the rewards page.

If you think you should be eligible because you sold fuel during that time-period and didn't receive any rewards i recommend to contact support.
Best is always to open a ticket ingame.

[radiant sky]

I think the Guides are not in a good enough state to put them on the official homepage.
Pictures or clips of certain actions would be needed in some sections to make it easier to follow/understand.
I think also some crucial parts are missing currently so they could be a called a "beginner tutorial" but will try to add them over time.

[real salmon]

Yeah I will as I was selling fuel

[atomic cove]

right now we're working on a better blog system that will feature that type of content. Once it's done you'll have that info and much more in there. Here's an example on how the articles will look like in the future.

[ruby merlin]

I think alone this or? About you touch structures her sounds are sharp and bad each click

[copper falcon]

Hi landowners! Do minting of blueprints and blueprints discovery accounted for in determining places in IZ leaderboard? Or are only fuel and resource production (and may be building/upgrading) counted?

I am asking cus i am blueprints oriented, and i think i discover and mint a lot of them, but i suck in the leaderboard🤔

[twin sequoia]

I mute sound and music by default, bur I remember music was not bad ... for a while

[twin sequoia]

Unfortunately no. Before it was released I also thought that it would be counted towards LB points. But not, only fuel and elements, be it from extractors or converters

[copper falcon]

oh man that really sucks! i am sure i would be around the top if they were counted

i think it is very unfair, cus fuel-oriented guys get their fuel rewards and leaderboard prises on top, but those who concentrate on blueprints get nothing cus sales are very bad.

This needs to be re-balansed for sure

[twin sequoia]

No, you wouldn´t :😔 . Points from fuel converters eclipses everything else. Everything helps, but not to turn it over

[twin sequoia]

Sells from fuel are also bad hehe

[copper falcon]

well at least fuel is a unified product, but a lot of blueprints you can't even sell at all (lynxes stage 2 and 3) cus they are not created

[twin sequoia]

I also keep 3 science plots

[copper falcon]

all my 14 plots are science ones.

[twin sequoia]

too much. It could be helpfull in the future, but we don´t know how the system will be reworked and fuel was always the core of the game

[copper falcon]

yeah... well, i tolerate this risk, but am not happy with unfairness of the leaderboard, cus IZ is not only fuel and resources.

[twin sequoia]

Totally agree. As LB is for playing the plots, I also think that building and science should be included, even if it don´t help much

[copper falcon]

blueprints were also always the core btw cus it is known that in MMOs skins are the money printer.

[twin sequoia]

And I wish they paid a bit more for the servers holding the LB database being a bit faster (or caching in SSD or whatever), as it is $%&$%$ very slow to load plots after collecting the converters, until all the info get updated. It would save quite much time for people with several plots, at least for me

[woven tangle]

LB works good what we need a demand for blueprints and skins I think the MMO will help with this big time. because Tran smog and gear in world of Warcraft is huge

[copper falcon]

you are saying that because you are on the top of the leaderboard, you are defending your turf😉 no it is apparently terribly not good, cus only one aspect of the game is rewarded, and the other is totally ignored.

actually i'd prefer blueprints generation aspect to be more present in the counting of the leaderboard places compared to fuel generation, cuz fuel generators get their rewards by selling fuel, but blueprints market is totally dead now, so blueprints generators need more love and support

[copper falcon]

yeah, i want a decent and fair (which is even more important) reward now for my hard work and dedication, and i hope for a huge reward in the future when MMO is a blast.

for now i don't understand why a top fuel-generating guy gets 110$ per week, and one of top guys in blueprints generation (well i am not sure i would be 1st or 2nd, but for sure in 50) gets zero.

[woven tangle]

The fuel burn leaderboards will be worth much more than the production leaderboards as the player count increases. Blueprints will also start holding real value. They really need to add gyms or another function for lands, because to be honest, Tier 1 lands are only good for production right now—they don’t generate enough to consistently mint blueprints or burn fuel.

If anyone need help starting out or have any questions feel free to hit me up anytime

[copper falcon]

we are talking about different things. fuel and blueprint generation are equally integral parts of the IZ, so they should be accounted equally in the leaderboard.

and it needs to be done asap, not in some distant future

[woven tangle]

what kind of point system would you want for blueprints ?

[copper falcon]

the one where those who discover and mint more get more points, obviously. and the top blueprints generator gets the same place as the top fuel generator.

[woven tangle]

from my understanding higher level lands would produce higher Tier or stage blueprints so anyone who had high level lands would crush the leaderboards

[copper falcon]

same about fuel. let's start at least from counting blueprints generation at all

[woven tangle]

I don't know the current system is simple and works their is no crazy formulas. I think we just need a demand for blueprints and skins

[copper falcon]

and i am not sure who would generate more, a guy wiht 1 t4 or with 10 t2

[copper falcon]

again, you are on top in the current system, so you defend it to get your 110$ extra each week

i don't think this is fair

[woven tangle]

I am but before i switched to production I had 40 lands set up for blue prints and would be easy to go back to it if needed

[copper falcon]

nice, i am not looking to dethrone you personally:) i am just for fair counting

cus now it is terribly unfair

[woven tangle]

to be honest blueprints for points or not it does not make a differences to me but it needs to be simple

[copper falcon]

it needs to be just on the first place

[woven tangle]

I like minting blue prints it is fun and the skins look great

[copper falcon]

if there are 2 equal aspects of the game, they should be rewarded equally

[woven tangle]

hmmm

what about this idea

what if the team simple just bought the floor out for blueprints weekly say $500 or $1000 or what ever number people think is fair and used these skins/blueprints for futrue prizes

they skins will be worth a ton in the future

[copper falcon]

id prefer to have 2 aspects in the formula, so that top generators of both fuel and skins had the 1st place, than 2nd, 3rd etc.

[woven tangle]

their is to many blueprints I don't think you need one for each suite type its crazy lol

anyways they have a lot of work to do it will be nice to see zero get some love after the MMO

[copper falcon]

i think the rewards system is a work for 1 dev for several days, they are clever and capable guys.

[woven tangle]

I am good with anything that helps the game grow even if I loose rank in the LB

[copper falcon]

but def in needs to be reworked, now it is so terribly unfair.

i am for fairness, blueprints are integral part of the ecosystem of Illuvium as well as fuel

[woven tangle]

Rank 1 took a ton of hours to get to epic game has me at 1770 hours played that does not count mobile lol

[copper falcon]

i work on my plots every day for 2-3 hours from the start, every single day.

[woven tangle]

i should of went arena id be on next level

it take me 1 hour just to collect

[copper falcon]

hmm, idk, may be. as for me, autobattlers seem like not my cup of coffee

[woven tangle]

To be honest I didn't think zero was my type of game at all but apparently it is

BBL time to collect

[copper falcon]

nice, Illuvium helps people to know themselves better😇

[woven tangle]

77k collect woot

had to upgrade some stuff to

https://tenor.com/view/goku-super-saiyan-super-saiyan2-super-saiyan2goku-goku-vegeta-gif-23177097

DBZ FTW

[twin sequoia]

Interesting, is OW now playable on Mac?

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/buying-buy-avax-memecoin-catcoin-gif-1752897606864396804

Them lands

[twin sequoia]

I made a suggestion for those with multiple plots: #1429209052243558451 message

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-dark-side-gif-27531192

[copper falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-emperor-palpatine-fly-gif-17095684

hey guys, comment, like, repost:) #1429490529070088252 message

[hot prairie]

How much fuel does a stage 6 extractor on a t3 base produce?

[twin sequoia]

50 base, 75 at 150% efficiency

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/d-gif-2374314719452959720

This how a feel about a new land I buy

my precious

[copper falcon]

Hmm something with IZ, my client is hanging on Checking registration around 10 minutes already🤔

[stray reef]

Same here. Can't login to Zero on PC. Checking Registration...

[copper inlet]

team is checking 🙏 , all auth services are down looks like

[copper falcon]

The message now is "Please check your internet connection and restart the game". Is it the same AWS issue or something else?🤔

[hot prairie]

Okay I have the same problem on app, no internet connection it says

[copper falcon]

i want to play my morning IZ, i feel sadness, emptiness and anxiety without this dope shot

Guys while there is this unfortunate interruption, please react on #1429490529070088252 message

[copper falcon]

seems like IZ works again!

[woven tangle]

IZ collecting not counting points hmmm

[sudden zinc]

GM! Can I still list the 45$ voucher we got long time ago? And secondly the value I see in my passport, is only there, correct? Need to be transfered to my wallet? Thanks

[twin sequoia]

Probably the AWS issue hitting the database. But the Plot menu still is slow after collecting, so I guess points are being updated in the backend, just need time for dashboard to get updated

[hot prairie]

I just bought land and payd for it but its not in my passpirt accoubt and its still available on illuvidex but money gone wtf is this

On the plot that is still available on dex when i click on activity i see that it's send to me but i dont have it

[twin sequoia]

Probably the wallet from where you bought it is not linked to your Illuvidex account

[hot prairie]

Its still on illuvidex and see its send to my account

[twin sequoia]

That could be a delay because of AWS problems

Plot 6658, right? It doesn´t matter to be in Illuvidex, you can see it is unlisted

[hot prairie]

Yes 6658

[twin sequoia]

I´ve seen this behavior other times, but long time ago. Anyway, open a support ticket in Illuvidex, just in case it is not solved when AWS problems finishes

[hot prairie]

Yes ive send a message already, thanks for checking out

[twin sequoia]

Is it available in the list of plots if you enter to IZ? just curiosity

[radiant sky]

it's probably related to the current AWS problematic

[hot prairie]

No its not on the list of plots on iz also see it is still available on dex

Hope it will be fine

[twin sequoia]

Fuel burn isn´t updated either in the web but it is in game, so a problem with web servers.

[copper falcon]

Seems like blueprints NFT minting stopped working after the AWS issue.

I have several plots, i minted some before the AWS down today, but those which i minted after the issue have not appeared on the blockchain.

oh, wait, they appeared just now!

seems like a service responsible for this was restarted or something

[hot prairie]

Okay its all fine, land is in my passport and on zero thanks for the help probably just a delay

[rancid turret]

None of my plots are showing up are we still having the AWS problems

I have 4 plots

[twin sequoia]

go back and reload plots again or close the game and enter it again. On mobile a little less severe than on PC for me now

[vivid cipher]

AWS is still having problems. Seems likely to be related to that.

Hmm maybe not. Mine show up

[jovial haven]

Ye its prob some issue, but land plots are still in your account.

[rancid turret]

Mine just finally showed up

[twin sequoia]

It seems to be slowly improving

IZ doesn´t fail for me now

[topaz spindle]

Login in imx is okay. IMX pay by iz is not work

[spice vector]

it gets better then worse. Kinda expected as people starting up all their workloads again. It'll be resolved by morning EU time probably - expect half the AWS team is looking at this and fixing 🙂

[grand silo]

Finally broke lvl 3000

[twin sequoia]

Is it 2x2? My MC still 697, quite young. My highest is a T4 lvl 1249 but probably the T3 at 1149 is more difficult.

[copper falcon]

Fellow landowners, don't forget to like, comment, repost, its for brighter future of us all #1429490529070088252 message

[rotund forum]

Is there not a way to rename your plots and order them alphabetically? I don´t know how it works now but it seems to have NO order at all. Not by tier, not by level

[iron laurel]

No there isn't.

[rotund forum]

but it does seem to be something relatively easy to implement. No disrespect, I am not a programmer, so I might be naive, but it seems when you have several plots something quite useful. As a matter of fact there is already a filter, you just need to make it permanent (like in excel) and give the option to add an alias to your plot.

[iron laurel]

I agree. Unfortunately with Arena and the MMO they aren't doing anything with Zero right now. We just have to plug along until the other games bring in the money needed to hire more people and get someone back on Zero.

[harsh dew]

Work in Progress Coming Soon...

[ionic sleet]

What if , burning illuvials gives you something in return, named whatever like " coins "
Then we need to burn coins and a bit of fuel directly in training gyms, to unlock level locks at level 40 , level 60 , level 80 and level 100 .
Higher level unlocks, require more coins and fuel to burn .
This can take 1-30 days to complete, higher level unlocks, require more days to wait .
Also if you want to put on a skin on an illuvial, you need to put a skin and burn some coins and fuels to put on skin , without hesitation.

[twin sequoia]

You were faster than me! 💪 I hope it is not discarded, even if postponed to 2026

[tardy falcon]

Hey Stuart, send u a FR and have some coding questions for u 👨‍💻

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-gif-15661968

[woven tangle]

People often think the Illuvium Zero leaderboard is all about how many lands you own — but I disagree. You could have 1,000 lands, but if you don’t put in the time and effort, you won’t get anywhere. I’ve logged over 2,000 hours on PC alone, not even counting mobile. I started with just a few lands and built up slowly over many months. When the leaderboards were introduced, I shifted my focus to production and used my rewards to buy more lands. I’m sure the other top players also dedicate a lot of time to Zero — it really takes consistent effort to stay competitive.

[high sleet]

Probably sitting on desktop, drag into chat whenever 😛

[iron laurel]

You are 100% correct. I have a Mega City and 5 other plots. I am not on the leaderboard because I put in very little time and effort into my plots.
I only cared about getting some skins. I keep thinking I should put the time into it but I would rather collect Illuvials. I have started doing a bit on mobile again.
Congrats on building up. Hope it pays off for you.
How many plots do you have?

[woven tangle]

93 trying to hit 100 then start stacking ILV , it’s already paid off I enjoy building up my lands

[copper falcon]

Nobody disrespects your dedication etc, but still the leaderboard rewarding only fuel generation is unfair. There are people who dedicated not less money, time and effort than you to generate blueprints, they also deserve rewards, if the rewards system exists at all for IZ leaderboard. That's why i've made the suggestion #1429490529070088252 message

[copper falcon]

Hey, i think you might be interested in supporting my suggestion. You seem like a person who values the long term success of the Illuvium higher than extracting value from it right now, so you could like the first part of my suggestion. And as a player who prefers science part of IZ over fuel part, you might like the second part of my suggestion😉

[woven tangle]

The trainer gyms could change everything be prepared

To be honest it doesn’t matter to me what rewards system they do or not do I am confident I could rebuild my lands from nothing if I had to

[copper falcon]

Nice. Than consider supporting my suggestion😉 Variety of rewards for different activities in IZ, not only for fuel generation, is good for land sales and land price growth.

[woven tangle]

The reward system needs to be simple

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/aeons-aeonsroleplay-aeons-of-sand-roméo-ceruos-gif-26034583

[twin sequoia]

Don´t think it to be so game changer. It is a part of the game. With the current state of fuel demand it can be quite important. But, at the end, it shouldn´t be so important as the main core should still be science and fuel production.

[iron laurel]

I do care about the long-term success of Illuvium. I did care more about the science part over the fuel part, but I also thought that lands were going to be the only way to make skins which is the main reason I bought them. With the DAO making skins out of thin air the science part of IZ is not so important any more. Now I am just hoping that the skins I made are somehow used in the new MMO and I didn't waste a bunch of money making them.

I saw your proposal and didn't vote because I don't think Zero should be getting any LB rewards at all. I don't want DAO handouts. I want them to stop devaluing the things I was told I would be able to make money from when I purchased my land.

I love Illuvium very much, the game and the people involved in it, but Zero is a sore spot for me.

I have cautious hope when I hear of things like Training Gyms. I think that is something that we might make money from and have fun with. If nothing else at least it would let me level my own Illuvials on my land.

[woven tangle]

well if non land holders pay land owners fuel or what ever to level up their stats and or exp this could be huge for land owners

if not i have about 8000 illuvails to level my self then i could turn around and sell

[iron laurel]

Impressive. 👏

[iron laurel]

It would make a massive difference to land owners. Either by giving us an edge as you say or letting us make some money from them. I hope it gets prioritized soon.

[copper falcon]

"I saw your proposal and didn't vote because I don't think Zero should be getting any LB rewards at all" but that's exactly what the first part of my suggestion is about. The second part is only for the case that the first part is not adopted. I notices that the link i posted was to one of comments for some reason, not my initial proposal, may be that's why you thought it is not what it is. I pasted the right one.

[woven tangle]

Here’s how I see it: Arena is in a good place, and the $150,000 tournament in December should attract a lot of players. If they manage to release the MMO around the same time, that will bring in even more players — and landowners will be well rewarded. Once the MMO is stable and doing well, the devs will shift their focus back to Zero, and when that happens, land prices will skyrocket. So I truly believe that now is the time to get into Zero.

[copper falcon]

I also see it that way, the only diff is that i concentrated on blueprints initially, and i don't like to re-build for fuel generation, i like the variability and rng of blueprints discovery. But the sad thing is that it's totally unpredictable now how skins will be valued, will they be used in MMO or not. So, logic says, i should rebuild for fuel, but meh, how boring it is

[woven tangle]

blue print and skin prize will be out of this world when you can see them in the MMO !!!

[copper falcon]

IF you can see them in MMO, there is no solution for this right now

[woven tangle]

when set 2 of illuvails go live all hell will break loose lol

[iron laurel]

I gave it a thumbs up and an explanation after re-reading the entire thing. Apologies for not giving it a closer read from the beginning.

[copper falcon]

Thanks a mil

The link was wrong, to one of comments, for some reason.

[iron laurel]

Still not an excuse for me to not have scrolled up and given it a closer look.

[copper falcon]

I have no exp in proposals, didn't know that such thing could happen, so didn't check. initially the link was right, but for some reason it became wrong over time.

[copper falcon]

It's incredible how you manage all this! I had tough time initially building out my 14 lands, spending all day on them, and even now spend 2 hours every day just to collect (part of that is supporting my database of blueprints). Are you doing all this alone, or you represent a team of players?

[woven tangle]

solo but I use google doc to keep it all organized by nexus level and region and tier and lands that collect fast

[copper falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-clap-applause-standing-ovation-gif-15648815

[empty umbra]

im selling my already started land on the illuvium site https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x9e0d99b864e1ac12565125c5a82b59adea5a09cd/55107

[woven tangle]

i need to update this i have been slacking lol

what also helped is people were selling nexus 9 lands for $35 to $40 all I had to do was rework the layout that shaved off 2 months of work easy

[iron laurel]

How many did you start with and how many hours a day do you spend on them now?

[woven tangle]

when leaderboard came out I think I had 23 setup for blueprints - at least 2 to 4 hours a day some times more depending work schedule

crazy just had chatgpt run the numbers from july 28th 2024 my avg is 4.46 hours per day like i said i enjoy playing the game

[copper falcon]

Actually i have 21 plots, but 7 are not that good for science, so i didn't develope them at all, seems like i should make them fuel-generators🤔

[woven tangle]

you could probably get 700,000 to 800,000 LB points with that many lands maybe more what rank would you be happy with on the LB ?

you could Aim for top 10 and leave the rest for blueprints

top 20 easy mode

Does anyone know if it is against the rules to let some one else play your account like a freind for family member or i could hire a Property Manager LOL

[copper falcon]

Idk, not that i am that obsessed with LB rewards, as my proposal suggests, i'd remove those rewards at all. it's just if they are present, they should motivate not only fuel generation. also, better to motivate ppl to buy lands i suppose, so they should be organized as lotteries to small holders proportionally to motivate them to buy more.

now all the money go to a small group of people who ofc are very dedicated and admirable for getting there, but the point of rewards is to motivate to buy and play i suppose. a potential player seeing current rewards layout would decide that he doesn't have a chance for anything, so why bother buying a land and spending time on it. 🤔

[woven tangle]

top 50 but its only $2400 if they player pool grows it would be cool to see them increase this maybe kind of like a poker tournament style prize pool

double the player pool top 100 get paid

and so on and so on

[copper falcon]

but in poker the only way to earn is to take part in competition and leaderboards. it's another type of game, it's a sport. but IZ has intrinsic value in it, the more you have lands the more you generate fuel (or blueprints if they will have value at all). So if motivate at all, better to motivate those who don't participate now to start participating buying the land.🤔

[copper falcon]

Not sure about that, better ask support i think for details.

And yeah, 100 lands cry for a hired manager

[woven tangle]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/you-shall-not-pass-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-mad-gif-15211479

Me holding off HJweiwu001

https://tenor.com/view/you-shall-not-pass-gandalf-gif-721379473846697118

[twin sequoia]

I don´t know, but probably not. You just risk your money letting someone else access your account. Not only because of what he could do, but also because he could be the target of a phishing attack, etc.

[woven tangle]

id only let someone i trust play on my account but property manager sounds good lol

[twin sequoia]

The security of IMX is not very strong for the money that may be involved

[copper falcon]

fierce competition of fuel tycoons🧐 🛢️

[twin sequoia]

Let them fight, we are interested in NCC postiion 😉

[copper falcon]

as you know i am interested in rewards for blueprint nerds🤓

i am 75 +- in the fuel LB, a shrimp🦐

[foggy bison]

lol, my four T1's put me at 380 in the LB. If you're a shrimp, what does that make me? 🤣

[copper falcon]

i mean a shrimp in the context of prizes for LB, all below top 50 are shrimps

[foggy bison]

I just thought it was funny. Took me forever to get under 400!

I don't even make enough to add more land. 😄

[copper falcon]

my whim for blueprints discovery instead of fuel generation also doesn't let me make enough to buy anything😅

[twin sequoia]

Wwith so many lands you could be in top20 easily even being 100% science oriented

[copper falcon]

well may be with 21 lands, idk, not sure. 14 is not enough, they are developed to the max, and i am in 70th places in fuel leaderboard. yeah, i think i need to start developing those 7 specifically for fuel🤔

or push devs to make a leader board and prizes for blueprints, which i am busy with recently😅

[twin sequoia]

Top20 now is 317k points. Let´s say 335k to be sure. This is 212 converters collecting 3 times/day. I think 12 converters is easy to achieve even with 5 scanners (that you sholdn´t have, 3 is more than enough in my opinion). So 18 plots more than enough. If you have 15 converters per plot, about 14 plots needed.

[copper falcon]

hm, thanks for calculations, you are really into this fuel race thing!

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[twin sequoia]

Let´s finish the cycle 😅

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/100k-hotdogs-dogs-abstract-chain-hotdogswtf-gif-620181431493055434

first collect hitting over 100k I can quit for the week and hit rank 50 lol

[woven tangle]

3hrs of collecting blah this need to be automated id rather be building up lands

[woven tangle]

an in game option for auto collection and restart

I could play arena way more

[gentle portal]

sir when will be the next cycle of rewards start? im outdated by i have t3 lands and t2 lands

[woven tangle]

it just started and its always 8pm Est on Wednesdays

https://tenor.com/view/touch-canttouchthis-ucanttouchthis-mchammer-musicvideo-gif-4723913

[gentle portal]

ok so we can burn fuel now to qualify for the next round?

[ruby merlin]

Omg!!!

[copper falcon]

Wen dedicated blueprint collectors will have their very own leaderboard with prizes, like fuel collectors? Support my suggestion, let's make the IZ leaderboard more interesting, inclusive and fair! #1429490529070088252 message

[woven tangle]

what happens when the top leader board guys switch 50 of their lands to minting blueprints will you still think its fair?

it would take us long to switch back

[copper falcon]

Sure, why not. Fair competition. But I would also rework rewards system so that even smallest player had a chance for a reward. I would make it a lottery, with proportional participation. Also may be it should be 2 lotteries, one for top 50 guys, other for non-top 50. In this case those on top still are in favor according to their high proportion, but all have a chance. Now it is giving money to top all the time, no motivation at all to buy lands cus you have no chances to be on top if you are just starting.

[ruby merlin]

Exactly

[copper falcon]

Ser consider supporting my suggestion

The lottery part is not there, but can be added later.

Current system is giving mone to the top, who already get most fuel. Leaderboard should motivate to buy lands and play, not deter playing.

[oblique mango]

that's why I create ideas about new system points, time-limited-fuel for everyone, increase range LB in IZ.......... Hello!
Please take a moment to read all my ideas for the game's development and leave a positive comment and a thumbs up.
If, like me, you care about this game surviving and developing, and one day becoming the most advanced crypto game, please find the time.
I'm taking the time to present my visions; you just need to find the time to read and like them. Thank you in advance~!

Illuvium Zero:
Illuvium Zero Vision Concept

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1427790842873118751

[twin sequoia]

Then it would not be about playing IZ but paying IZ to be on top

[copper falcon]

A game should stay a game, also a lot of clicking prevents concentration of too much landplots in one hands, which is good, we don't need oligarchs here 😉

[woven tangle]

So if they do this for zero why not all the games ?

[copper falcon]

I didn't think about other games cus i play only IZ rn, so lets start from here. Other games are value generators, so there might be better a different approach. And Arena is esport, it should reward only the top, its fair, especially Leviathan where ppl spend a lot.

[woven tangle]

If you change one you will have to change the others

I think the raffle should be for all games

[copper falcon]

step by step, you need to start somewhere.

for now IZ shouts injustice and inefficiency of rewards right in your face.

idk about other games.

but yeah, in most cases a proportional raffle is better.

[sacred grove]

Hey guys! I'm new here, nice to meet you!, I have a question... Can someone explain how the extract fuel work in ILZ? I saw an image where someone burned fuel and got a fuel or ETH reward,

I mean the reward, what happen if i burn 100 fuel for example

[copper falcon]

every week there is a distribution of 5% of fuel bought in other games to play them. the more you burn in IZ, the higher is you proportion to get from those 5% as a reward. something like that.

[woven tangle]

20000 in game fuel might be $1 at the moment

[copper falcon]

in game fuel you mean IZ fuel, right? cus in other games 1 fuel is pegged to 1 cent, if i remember correctly🤔

[woven tangle]

yes iz fuel

[ebon peak]

Hey, what is training gyms in road map for IZ?

[twin sequoia]

See pinned messages for a guide

[twin sequoia]

Theorically, a way to train Illuvials so you don´t need to use them in OW or Arena to gain levels.

[woven tangle]

could be stats or levels or both who know

[iron laurel]

Should be levels. Stats should not be changing in Training Gyms. If they try to put that one in I will be fighting it as hard as possible. Too many of us have dropped a lot of money to buy 100 stat Illuvials because they will have rarity. If Stats are included in training gyms then there will be no rare Illuvials left.

[radiant sky]

Don't think that will ever be implemented in any kind of way.
hunting better stats is what keeps people spending over time and also what can create extremely high single asset prices which has multiple advantages like marketing, whale interests etc.

[iron laurel]

I don't think they would do it either because it would instantly kill the Illuvial value and the game but just warning everyone that if anyone does get the crazy idea I will lose it.

[hot prairie]

You cant just change the rules, people are in this game because of them and working to get on top. Its not because you are not succesfull right now that the ones that are should be punished. Its alot of dedication and time people put in. It wouldn't be fair to change. Not good for trust either

I also think we all are still very early in this, so you might not get alot from it now. But you sure can have a great headstart for the future if you keep buying and building

[shut arch]

is there any use for blueprints tier higher than 1?

[copper falcon]

On the contrary rules can be changed and need to be changed. I don't think top 50 would sell their plots and go away if the rewards not payed to them anymore (if my first suggestion to remove rewards is implemented), cus they still would get rewards from fuel distribution. Those saved money could be spent on artists and/or developers to make Illuvium better. If rewards stay and my second suggestion is implemented, more people would be motivated to play IZ which is also good for the project. How rewards are implemented now is not optimal, it's just giving money to those who already make money, and those who could start buying plots, they see they have no chances to get prizes from top 50, and fuel distribution is also very small when you have 1 or 2 plots, so why bother at all. Also some people like me prefer to discover blueprints, this activity is not any worse than fuel generation, and should be rewarded the same.

[copper falcon]

I am successful, i have fully developed 14 landplots dedicated to blueprints discovery, and i should be rewarded for this, if rewards stay, cus why fuel generation is any better than blueprints discovery? If there was a leaderboard for blueprints, i would for sure be in top 50 with my 14 fully developed lands dedicated to blueprints. So it is not a punishment, it is justice. Why am i punished now if i want to discover blueprints instead of generating fuel?

[twin sequoia]

Each tier of blueprints have a different set of armors, so are for different skins (AFAIK, I don´t play OW yet)

[shut arch]

how many levels have the buildings in a land?

[copper falcon]

Unfortunately visually there is only one skin for all 18 types of armor for every illuvial, also lynxes have only 1 skin based on Lynx (stage 1), there are no skins based on lynxes stage 2 and 3, the Team has no enough artists to create all of them.

But if an artist or 2 were hired with the pointless prize money from IZ leaderboard, they could do that😉

[twin sequoia]

9 for the basics builds and related to elements, 6 for fuel, 5 for science and 3 for "specials" (ZPT, data bank and podarium)

[twin sequoia]

There are 130 Illuvials, Lynxs are 25, there is a world behind them. I also said from start that it was too much artist work for so tiny diferences between skins of the same Illuvial. There should be no more than 6 for each Illuviual (1 each tier), or even less, with more differences between them. Let´s hope that for the reworked system, and for set 2, it is heavily changed.

[copper falcon]

yeah, you was right, apparently.

but i think every lynx should have its own design of a skin, or else it is inconsistent, every illuvial has its own distinctive skin, but all lynxes have only 1...

but its a huge question how these skins will be used in MMO, where there will be skins dropped by raidbosses...

[hot prairie]

I guess its your choice to make blueprints and sell them to earn money. Im in for fuel burn, spend alot of money on plots but also no rewards (yet) but i get your point. But its not punishment if you choose to do this. But it would be more motivational if they reward blueprinters thats true

[copper falcon]

yep, exactly. ofc its my choice to discover blueprints, it is more exciting to me than generating fuel, but why this activity is worse than fuel generation? i also spent a lot of money on my 14 landplots. the game has 2 main aspects, fuel and blueprints, they are equal, they should be rewarded equally if rewards exist at all. but current system rewards only fuel generation and totally ignores bluerprints - seems not fair. so its either remove rewards for good, or make the system equal to both types of activity. Also if rewards stay, they should be more about motivating to start playing, currents system doesn't motivate to start, cus a guy considering to buy a plot understands he doesn't have a chance to be in top 50 and be rewarded at all, this demotivates. So lottery would be better i suppose, proportional to involvement in the game, this way even the smallest player has a chance for reward and a motivation to buy second land, third etc to raise the chance for a reward.

[hot prairie]

I know you cant sell fuel directly to players, so guess leaderbord is to compensate that as a rewarding system and the 5% pool for burn. And if you choose to make blueprints and have a chance to find rare ones and sell them, its self rewarding. So its more a matter of choice i guess. Selling directly and earning on prints or optimize production for rewards. Fuel cant be sold directly and i think that's why they don't promote blueprints, because you would have a double reward by selling them and be in top 50. Not that anything is wrong with that but just trying to see it from their perspective

[copper falcon]

Well if i repurposed my 14 lands to fuel generation i would get more now than selling blueprints, the market is dead rn. Logically i should do it, but it's just boring for me to generate fuel. In future if demand for blueprints is higher, i suppose demand for fuel will grow proportionally, so fuel generators also will get more. But yeah, it's complicated to reward both fuel and blueprints so that nobody would feel disadvantaged🤔 Also selling IZ fuel is less cumbersome (you just burn it and the outer fuel is distributed automatically, no fuss) comparing to selling blueprints which is a messy stuff itself.

[woven tangle]

3 lands will get you in the top 50 easy

What percentage of this game was funded by the land sale ?

2022 they reportedly generated US$ 72 million from selling land plots

At $2,400 per week, it would take about 577 years to equal $72 million. LOL crazy

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1431115581758767235

[warm compass]

The current system of rewarding the top 50 actually motivates people to buy MORE land and play MORE actively so that they can get to the top 50 to be rewarded for their money and time. Lottery system makes people lazy, thinking that they can rely on luck to get rewarded even if they don't work their way to the top.

As for rewarding between fuel vs blueprint, they are not equal, they are not even comparable in the first place. Fuel is a consumable, consistent value generation, more predictable income, hence boring. Blueprint is a collectable, you can generate one that's highly valuable and another that's worthless, can't predict your income as it's dependent on demand and rarity, but that makes it interesting like opening pokemon cards and buying lottery.

You think that blueprint generation should also be rewarded like fuel, but the value in fuel comes from volume, and the value in blueprint comes from rarity. If there's a leaderboard on blueprint based on volume, rarity will drop, many people will generate blueprints at large volume but nobody wants to buy, supply will outweigh demand severely, price war among blueprints will happen, the economy of collectables will collapse. Although you may still count on generating the ultra rare ones that are very limited in supply, but when so many people are generating blueprints at large volume, your odds of getting the ultra rare ones will drop too.

We all chose our paths to be involved. I chose to generate fuel as I don't have much time. I was out of top 50, so I bought more land and managed to get into top 50. You said the current system doesn't motivate to start, then what motivated you to start? You said you should logically repurposed to fuel but is boring, well...you can't have your cake and eat it too right?

[woven tangle]

Let’s break this down: with a 20% path bonus, you can collect 25 times in one week. Any land can produce around 1,500 points per collect with 20 converters (or more). That means in one week, any land can generate 37,500 leaderboard points. You only need to break 100K to place in the top 50, so three well-built lands should easily get you there once they’re fully developed.

Once your land built up it takes about 1 minute to collect so maybe 1.5 hours a week of collecting time

[twin sequoia]

That´s a bit optimistic, you should collect 4 times in a day for 4 days out of 7. If you are not in the race for top 3, that´s a bit stressful (I´m in it and won´t do that, I prefer to sleep 😆 ). 21-22 would be the base.

[woven tangle]

add another land in their but its up to the player

I never said it was easy lol it takes me 1 hour to collect so 25 hours a week just in collecting then I am upgrading to woot

but I enjoy playing zero

@twin sequoia what if the payout was more like this https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1431115581758767235 would you go for the top 3

or if the player / prize pool doubles or triples

[twin sequoia]

Lately there are too many proposals to do too many different things. Let´s people in the councils decide, I don´t mind much. I like playing and I´ll adapt to what I want. Now I´m ok with everything but not rewarding top 100 players.

[woven tangle]

I always thought the pay structure should be more like a poker tournament style. right now 1st and 2nd $24 differences is not much I just like beating HJ and NCC lol

https://tenor.com/view/muscles-flex-strong-man-gif-9667735817216185709

[copper falcon]

Current system is giving money to the rich, who chose to generate fuel, nothing more. A person considering buying a land would see that they have no chances for a leaderboard prize, and fuel distribution is negligible for 1 land, so why bother starting at all. But if you implement proportional lottery, even 1 land has a small chance to win, and there is a direct motivation to buy more lands to raise you chances to win the lottery. And after several buys the fuel distribution part will kick in, it becomes interesting as well. So this is motivation for new players, which is good to the project. Feeding whales brings nothing to the table though. Motivation to a whale to buy 1 more land to be in those top 50 is not enough for such huge money spent on rewards. So it's either remove rewards at all and spend money on artist and devs, or make it a proportional lottery to motivate to start playing. As for difference in activities of fuel generation and blueprints generation, yes, they are different, but again, if a person ponders to start the game, buy a plot, but they prefer blueprints, it is good to motivate them to buy with the prize for leaderboard. Current sales are almost none, so it would be the only motivation. If in future demand would grow, more players would switch from fuel to blueprints, the price would go down and at some point there would be equilibrium between fuel generators and blueprint generators.

[hot prairie]

If the system became a lottery, it would shift Illuvium Zero from strategy and optimization to pure chance. The whole point of land ownership is to reward smart layout, resource management, and longterm efficiency, not luck.

[copper falcon]

I suggest a proportional lottery, so that the more you produce, the higher your chances for a prize. And to be honest, the game is not that hard to master, so it cant be considered as a esport activity, compared to Arena, for example, its just a gamified revenue distribution to investors.

Or let's remove the prize completely, so that you get your rewards only from fuel distribution and blueprints sales. But it is pointless to reward top players even more than they are already rewarded with fuel distributions and blueprints.

The only reason to have rewards in leaderboard is to grow player base, hoping that some IZ players will start playing other Illuvium games and spend money there.

More players means higher demand in lands, meaning higher prices for them, which is good for the next land sale if and when it will happen, to raise more money to the project.

[hot prairie]

You can't just be rewarded for having and doing nothing

[copper falcon]

once again, proportional lottery. the proportion depends on your success in fuel generation (and in blueprints generation, if this leaderboard will be implemented)

so if you have land and do nothing, you will get nothing, it will be not present on the leaderboard.

[hot prairie]

The most fair is that the winner wins, they are probably in longer than us, spend more hours and money. So its only fair they get rewarded.

You wouldn't complain if you were first or would you? 😁

[ruby merlin]

I love the idea of the lottery because it’s very similar to Ethereum proof of stake and the way it’s mined.

[copper falcon]

they get their reward in fuel distribution and blueprints generation.

there is no point to give more rewards on top of this.

if you want more rewards, they should motivate new players to enter the game.

now it is feeding whales, which is pointless, spending money for nothing.

[hot prairie]

What if you were first? You bought way overpriced in the beginning, spend years in uncertainty building and not giving up, believing and investing in the game. Finally get rewarded for that and then they would decide to have a lottery to give everybody a fair chance? That would't be fair

[copper falcon]

I am first, boutght my 21 lands on initial sale. And i am getting nothing rn, cus i chose to generate blueprints, and they cost nothing right now, the market is dead. its investing. this is investors game.

you have some lands and you have some fuel distribution on them - that is your reward right now for your investment. the more players enter Illuvium games, the more fuel will be bought and distributed to you. so its your first interest to grow number of players.

so if to have leaderboard rewards at all, they should motivate new players, not be distributed for current players just to compensate their losses.

its pointless, spending money for nothing, sucking value from the project.

[hot prairie]

Im just waiting for this game to blow up and generate some money, right now its dead for everybody. I look at it as an investment for the future. Right now there arent enough players, but i believe it will change overtime.

[copper falcon]

and proportional lottery rewards will increase number of players, hopefully not only in IZ, but also in other games of Illuvium, spending money there. cus usually people start playing one game, and then look at others.

[hot prairie]

That would be a nice bonus on top of the existing leaderboard system but i don't think you'll attract more players with that lottery. As a bonus it's nice ofcourse. I find it really crazy you can earn money with this game in so many different ways, don't know any game that does this, so not complaining here

[woven tangle]

so 1 land = 1 ticket sounds great I will have 93 chances to win can in win more then once

[copper falcon]

not one land one ticket, but proportion of your production compared to others i suppose. but this is negotiable.

[hot prairie]

You deserve it man, i'm not jealous of you or anybody. I find it really great you trying to help other players how to build their bases while you are number 1 so you have my respect

[copper falcon]

and as i commented in your suggestion, for the top 10 is their own lottery, with 1 prize 50$😉 concrete numbers also negotiable.

[woven tangle]

When I had 23 lands minting blue prints I was still in the top 20 for leaderboards even broke top ten you just got to put the time in

[sacred moss]

Top 10 ranking must excluded🤣 🤣

[woven tangle]

I have no problem sharing layout or strategies its all good

[copper falcon]

what he deserves is his fuel distribution. but the leaderboard prize on top of that is excessive and pointless 🙂

[woven tangle]

I was switching to Arena right after the $50 rewards come out

[copper falcon]

why not, i am for it, but it could looks too aggressive 🙂, so its preferrable to have a prize for the top guys.

[sacred moss]

I have only 8 land and still safe in top 50 ranking.

[woven tangle]

almost time to collect woot then I may get a nap these 5 hour sleep nights suck but that damn HJ guy wont stop LOL

[copper falcon]

nice, in my suggestion 11 - 50 have a lottery of 2 prizes 25$ each 🙂

enjoy

numbers are negotiable

[woven tangle]

To be honest they probably wont change anything for a long time we will have to see how all the other stuff effects IZ and training gyms

[sacred moss]

All my land is designed for full blueprint generation. And still ranked 50 above

[copper falcon]

yeah, may be

[sacred moss]

I hope training gyms is a game changer for land holders

[copper falcon]

hmm thats interesting, my 14 t2 lands designed for bleuprint generation make me only in 70 of fuel leaderboard. are your lands t3?

[copper falcon]

that's the thing in politics, you try to push your idea, but may fail, shit happens🤷‍♂️

[sacred moss]

Sellerus is master of designed in land and he is willing to share those for free. Compare to him, my desiged is nothing.

Only one t3

And one t4

[copper falcon]

ah, its' a huge difference, t3 and t4 generate much more fuel, so thats why you are in 50

all my lands are t2

[sacred moss]

You will surely kick some guy in rank 50 if you do it right.

[sacred moss]

No not much

[copper falcon]

i think i did it rigth... but i have other 7 t2 empty lands, i am going to build them as fuel generators.

[sacred moss]

10 t2 land will surely kick me in ranking too.

[copper falcon]

also it depends on layouts, some lands are better than others.

[sacred moss]

Its for you to find out.

[twin sequoia]

This is the burning fuel system

[copper falcon]

burning fuel system doesnt have lottery tho

but in terms of proportions yes, similar

[sacred moss]

But i am 100percent sure, you will kick me in ranking soon with those 21 land hahahahah.

[copper falcon]

well if i am not lazy building out those 7 lands😅

i had hopes to push blueprints leaderboard to be eligible right now with what i have, but seem like this will not happen

[warm compass]

Another way of balancing between fuel and blueprint generators for the leaderboard is to adjust the points assignment system. E.g. based on the amount of time required to generate blueprints vs fuel, assign points such that a T1 blueprint land will receive same/similar points as another T1 fuel land within the same period of time.

[copper falcon]

tbh creating a good system for blueprints is a tricky task, the more i think about it, the harder it looks. so it's understandable why there is no leaderboard for blueprints - too much fuss designing.

but i am not a top dev of Illuvium, they are really clever guys😅

fuel is straightforward tho.

also i suppose the Team is may be going to re-design blueprints to connect well with MMO, so this could also be a thing which doesn't let creating a good leaderboard for blueprints.

[copper falcon]

btw how many unique blueprints have you discovered on all your lands?

[hot prairie]

How do you collect 4 times a day with maxxed extractors? Its every 20 hours

[sacred moss]

130 blueprints already discovered.

[copper falcon]

🦐 ser, 1780 here🧐

wait, do you mean 130 blueprints or 130 biodatas?

[sacred moss]

Ahh you mean total migrated?

[sacred moss]

Biodata

[copper falcon]

i mean unique blueprins, like Axon Battlesuit, Relentless Emberlynx Hexasuit etc

[sacred moss]

Blueprints migrated i honestly don't count it or don't care anymore. So i dont know exatly how many.

[copper falcon]

ah, i see. i still count and care😅

if not rewarded just for the sake of numbers.

[sacred moss]

Wow you have so many blueprints that is amazing. Im thinking you put too much time for that.

[copper falcon]

thats why i am so salty that they are not rewarded

a lot of work and dedication was put in. and all for nothing, sales are almost zero

and no leaderboard reward for this

all for stupid boring fuel🤬

[sacred moss]

I don't want to discourage you, but to be honest. We don't have developer yet for zero. And as for when, if my guest is right maybe after they finish arena and mmo then, they can put some dev to zero.

[copper falcon]

yeah i know

but fuel is too boring for me. but yeah, will have to develop those empty 7 lands for it just to get somethnig in the current system if it stays.

[sacred moss]

Since you have those so much of blueprints why not try to convert your land to fuel generation for now. Then turn it back when we have a developer for zero.

[copper falcon]

also there are even no suits for blueprints based on lynxes stage 2 and 3, so lots of blueprints are totally useless.

[copper falcon]

i want to find them all and hope they will be transformed into something when the Team pays attention to IZ at last.

[twin sequoia]

wow! I´m happy with my 301 blueprints hehe

[hot prairie]

Okay by fuelconverters i guess?

[twin sequoia]

Yes. IZ LB is about converting fuel

[copper falcon]

So i think i should be rewarded no less than top fuel guys, but i am not. this really pisses me off

or rewards should be removed at all.

[twin sequoia]

Rewards is not about what you have, but what you create/generate. Those BP you already have would give you zero points 😅. As well as my stored fuel gives me zero points in the current LB.

[copper falcon]

but i generate a lot of blueprints and discover them every day😉

i am sure i would be one of tops in this should the leaderboard exist

[twin sequoia]

Sellerus, NCC, me, etc. would change to sciences and wouldn´t change much

But of course you would rank better

[copper falcon]

that's is not known, since there is no such leaderboard. may be you would prefer to stay on fuel only, who knows.

[woven tangle]

You know what really needs fixed onboarding people to IZ the only way to buy land is with crypto this where I loose people when trying to get them into the game they just dont understand it yet

[copper falcon]

meh, this is pointless discussion, there is no blueprints leaderboard so we cant check

[copper falcon]

yeah, this is another story completely, why not make a proposal to change that?🤔

[woven tangle]

its complicated I am sure maybe next land sale will change that who knows

[copper falcon]

yeah

[hot prairie]

Okay first time hearing this 😅 thanks, now i know what i'm doing wrong 🤣

[twin sequoia]

Every new created fuel or element counts. Elements 1/500k, fuel 1/1, be it extraction, passive generation or conversion. When you convert one fuel into another, you are creating a new unit of fuel of that type.

[hot prairie]

Thanks! This changes alot for me, I was only harvesting and saving fuel to burn, better put that fuel to work then

[open basin]

hi guys im planning to buy land on zero can i ask how do you guys earn in land in Zero?

[rose thicket]

buy mine and I will show you exactly how the process works

[twin sequoia]

Currently you have 3 methods: burn fuel, sell NFT blueprints and Leaderboard. The last one is the only giving a decent amount but only to top50, so you need 3-4 plots and the time to develop them

[copper falcon]

And blueprints market is dead, almost no sales and extremely low prices

no love at all from the Team to blueprints and skins

[copper falcon]

Ser, how did you get your sparkling illuvitar?🤔

mine is plain, no sparkles🤔

[woven tangle]

I am special lol it’s a holo from opening disk

[copper falcon]

those limited alpha disks they sell at the beginning?

[copper falcon]

I am asking cus mine also holo, but it doesn't have those cool sparkles

[woven tangle]

Not sure

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/myhome-50lakhs-gif-11659973563001185124

lol

[woven tangle]

I don’t remember lol

[vivid cipher]

The limited alpha disks have been sold at the launch of each wave

[copper falcon]

Yeah, i remember. So those sparkling illuvitars are from alpha disks?

oh whoa, turns out i have some sparkling illuvitars myself, yep, they are from alpha disks. missed the moment they became sparkling, they were not initially.

[vivid cipher]

True

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-straight-gangsta-gangster-into-it-supportive-gif-10455620

[jovial spade]

For someone who knows nothing about crypto / nft stuff etc. and who just started playing Illuvium Zero.
Are there any recent helpful guides for someone like me?

I'm currently play the free map to get a feel for the game. So far I'm enjoying it. But I am wondering about a lot of random things... like should I be setting up the city in any certain way, should I be prioritizing one thing over the other, if I buy a builder on the free map, will that transfer to when I get my first paid map, I heard I need some kind of e-wallet, should I have my accounts setup in an efficient way like with new emails dedicated to specific things etc.
Like just a bunch of random questions lol...

Is there any kind of guide / video that would help with a lot of that basic stuff?

[jovial spade]

You mentioned needing 3-4 plots and time to develop them.
Are those 3-4 plots the ones that cost like $30-50?
Also, when you say time to develop them. Do you mean to "max" them out? And how long does that take on average to max out a plot?

Also, with 3-4 developed (maxed?) plots, where would that put you in the leaderboard? Top 50?

[sacred moss]

Wait dr. Spoon online he has link for zero guide. Sadly i dont have it.

[sacred moss]

It would take 2 to 3 months.

Your lucky if you buy a land that already fully developed.

[jovial spade]

So when you buy a land, you don't know whats developed on it or not?
And the land comes with whatever buildings are already there? Like a lvl 5 nexus etc.?

I assumed if you bought a land plot, it would start off empty / blank like this free to play one?

[sacred moss]

Sometimes if your lucky enough you can buy a land that already lvl up like mine. But mostly empty land.

[jovial spade]

Do you know if builders can move between lands?
Like if I buy a 2nd builder for 120 coins, and I have 3-4 plots. Can I use that 2nd builder on all 3-4 lands I have?

[sacred moss]

No. The builder only stay on the one land you buyed it.

But you can earn the coin for free for you 2nd builder if wait longer while developing it. But it takes several weeks.

[twin sequoia]

Yes, T1 plots are enough if you have 4. With a T4 included, 2-3 are enough. But obviouslly it would be much more expensive and it doesn´t pay out only for LB.
Yes, I mean to max them out. If you have the experience and knowledge, it can last from 2 months (or a bit less) in a T3/T4 with 3 workers to 3 months (or a bit over) with 2 workers in a T1 (the 3rd is useless in a T1). Without experience, add 2-4 weeks. This is using your workers 24/7 (but below Nexus lvl 6, when times are too short for that).
I don´t check lower ranks but, with 4 T1 developed right, I guess you could go up to #35-40.

[twin sequoia]

you have the guide pinned by Dr.

[twin sequoia]

It is pinned

[twin sequoia]

No, you don´t know within Illuvidex. They want to revamp it, so may be in the future it is visible. In https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/832955966031003758 we usually put this info. There is a button to reset the plot but, if not used, structures always remain. The level of the plot is always kept. So when sold, buildings and lvl is kept. Everything else is removed (workers, resources, etc.). If transferred to another account, everything remains. Coins are account linked, so the coins you generated are always yours and sum up with coins generated in all your plots, including free plot.

[radiant sky]

Good evening, ser 🙂

There's a high level guide written for Zero.
It is still work in progress but could answer a lot of questions.
Would really appreciate if you give it a read and keep asking what's still unclear, since you are the perfect audience for me to improve the guide 😄

Link to the guide:

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[vivid cipher]

It’s a pinned comment

[jovial spade]

Appreciate it, ty! Ill check it out

[jovial spade]

I didn't realize all the coins were put together, including the free plot. Ive been using this free plot stuff just to test things out, currently lvl 4 nexus (lvl 5 upgrading atm).
But Ive been using the coins to speed some of the builds lol. Had I known the coins transfered from free plot to paid plots, I would have been saving it to buy a worker lol.

[twin sequoia]

That probably happened to all of us 😅 . Now I only use them to buy workers if needed. If I don´t need a worker I save them for the future.

[sacred moss]

Don't worry your not alone 🤣 🤣 i did it also in my 1st try.

[radiant sky]

i also ssave them just for workers, but actually use them accidently to finish elements production most of the time xD

[sacred moss]

I even buyed the third builder for the free land🤣 🤣 🤣

[jovial spade]

Lol well I at least know not to buy any builders for free land. I was planning to buy one, but was afraid it wouldn't transfer to a paid plot. So I'm glad I asked about that first lol.

[jovial spade]

How many maxed T1 plots do you think the person in #1 has? 20?

[twin sequoia]

lol no. He has 93 plots, most T1 but not all, and 1 T4. I cannot know how many but, with 21 converters per land and 21 collects per week (I think he does 24), at least 47 fully developed plots for fuel production, or equivalent, to get 1.6M points ina week. So he still has room for improvement.

[jovial spade]

So for someone like myself just starting now, is it basically impossible for me to ever take #1 on the leaderboard?
I mean, assuming right now I also had 24 lands, and spent 3 months maxing them out.
By the time I reached the point he is at now with 1.6M points in a week.
He would likely be over 2M points a week 3 months from now, right?

Like the only real way for a new player to reach those top ranked leaderboard spots, is for some of those top players to quit?

[twin sequoia]

It depends on how things evolves, but you cannot go vey high without investing a fair amount of time and money.

[twin sequoia]

Probably, it already happened with "SellAllLands" (he changed his name) and I was to reach #3, but then Sellerus appeared and I never had a chance 😭

[sacred moss]

No, since the #1 is already max out. He cannot increases his output, unless he still buying new lands.

[twin sequoia]

No, he isn´t. He is still developing lands, so can go much higher. It depends on the time he want to invest in it, bu he likes zero a lot

[sacred moss]

If you buy more land than the #1 for example you buy 200lands, in the right time you will out rank him for sure. But it will takes so much time,money and effort.

[sacred moss]

I dont know that. Im thinking he is already max out all. But your absolutely right. To think he has 93 plots. So [(93 X 20)X 75]X3 a day X 7days approximately total 2.8M plus max out

[jovial spade]

So how much time is dedicated per day to run a maxed out land?
There has to be limit to how many lands someone can do per day, right?

[twin sequoia]

Once developed, less than a minute per plot. I think that for people near the servers it may be half a minute or less. I wait a lot for the plots to load after collecting converters (not after building or collecting extractors). In the MC it is even worse, I guess it is because of the interconnected roads.

[jovial spade]

Right now I am having to baby sit this free plot, its like every 5mins my extractors are done.
Im assuming a maxed out land doesnt have to be done every 5-10mins?

[sacred moss]

Mine is only take 1 to 2 minutes to all collect resources per land.

[jovial spade]

How often per day do you do that?
Like once the land is maxed out, is it every 3-4 hours you have to log on, and collect everything from your land?

[sacred moss]

Naturally every 8 hours but with a road bunos it will decrease up to 20% in time. But honestly i only collect twice a day or sometime once only.

[jovial spade]

How much does having maxed plots and such on here, benefit the other games?
The auto battler, I'm not sure how much I'd play.
But the overworld one looks like it could be fun.
Does playing this city builder, do anything positive for me in the other games?

[twin sequoia]

That´s at low levels. It is important to get buildings at lvl 5, where it is almost 1 hour. At max level it is 24h for element/fuel extractors and element converters, with the path bonus down to 20h, so just once a day. But LB is about fuel converters and their converting time is 8h minus path bonus

For me the sweet point for a T1 are element extractors at lvl 7/8. lvl 9 is too expensive but you can use it to log in only once a day instead of twice.

[twin sequoia]

At first it allowed you to fund OW travels and activities with fuel, but no more. May be with the MMO there is something new. You can research and mint blueprints to create skins in OW for the ranger and the drone, and I think that theese skins can also be used in the Arena.

In the roadmaps there are training gyms for Illuvials, but we still don´t know when will them arrive and how will them work.

[jovial spade]

Ok gotcha.
So far Im enjoying the city builder, I was just wondering if I am not able to compete for top 3 leaderboard. Then outside of having fun with the game, what other benifits there were to the time investment of it.
Like, you mentioned being able to use fuel in other connected games, that would be pretty cool. Its a shame they removed it

[foggy bison]

Yeah, T1's - once a day to collect and burn the 38 fuel from the one extractor. Once/twice a week to collect the converter fuel. If it wasn't for plant maintenance. time spent would be even less. I have 4 T1's with 15, 17, 18, 21 converters. I burn a little over 2,000 fuel/week.

[twin sequoia]

I play because I like the game and I take advantge of it to win money. If you just play to get money, it is not the time yet but could be the time to invest as it would get much expensive in the future if the game success.

[jovial spade]

Yeah I currently just play random games like WoW / EFT etc. But I like the idea of being able to get something out of the time I am putting into a game. So I'm not too worried about trying to make money right away. But if the games are fun, and months down the road I am able to make money off it, then I think that would be ideal to me.

[twin sequoia]

And to everybody 😂

[tall canopy]

Anytime I see a new announcement I always wonder if they will say something about zero and then disappointment kicks in when it’s always about arena and Beyond 😂

[jovial spade]

Is it easier to make money with Arena, Beyond, or the other games, compared to Zero?

[tall canopy]

I have no idea. I’ve only done mainly zero. Collected some beyond in very early stages

[shut wave]

Hey guys i went into my metamask after a long time and noticed ilv shows $0 its not like that on binance. Any ideas why?

[twin sequoia]

try re-authenticating or empty the cache, it is ok on the web site:

[jovial spade]

How many maxed plots do you guys think is needed to get into top 10 on the leaderboard?

[twin sequoia]

At least 20

[copper falcon]

I reckon to the time when he has those 20 maxed out it will be 40

[jovial spade]

Yeah thats kind of what Im afraid of haha. Difficult for new players to get into this game, when there isn't much of a chance of catching up

[copper falcon]

yep thats what i am talking about suggesting redesigning rewards😉

[twin sequoia]

LB is not the game, it is an additional thing. The game are fuel and blueprints (and training gyms in the future)

[copper falcon]

now it is feeding whales

[twin sequoia]

No, whales only spend money, but not time. That would be ADR. For IZ LB you need the time to develop the plots

[jovial spade]

What do you do with fuel and blueprints?

[copper falcon]

what is ADR?🤔

[copper falcon]

I think there is a limit of how many lands one person can operate, its only 24 hours in a day. But not sure about the number.

[twin sequoia]

Read the pinned guide

[twin sequoia]

Automated drone runs for OW

[copper falcon]

Ah this.. Ok, IZ whales are busy ones😅

[jovial spade]

I mean, I know theyre involved with the other games. Like blueprints are for making skins and stuff, and fuel is for burning I think?

But the blueprints / skins arent currently for anything outside of a cosmetic thing in overworld, right?

Like is there any real interest or reason to be playing zero for blueprints, outside of a skin for the ranger guy?

[copper falcon]

true. blueprints are used to make skins, which are cosmetics for suits in current implementation.

[jovial spade]

It seems like the leadboard is the big / main reason for people to want to play zero, no? (Outside of just enjoying the game itself)

[copper falcon]

no other reason right now

[copper falcon]

also fuel distributions. you burn fuel in IZ and get 5% of sold fuel in other games proportionally to what you burned (compared to other IZ players)

but yeah, seems like LB rewards is the main reason, those fuel drops are small rn cus there is no much buys of fuel in other games. but this can change with MMO sometime in future.

[jovial spade]

Yeah, the person who introduced me to this game who also plays it, said he thinks the MMO will be bigger than the current games out right now, and will bring a lot of people

Which is why I thought it might be a good time to get started now, if it takes 2-3+ months to work on lands and all that

[copper falcon]

may be. MMOs are huge usually, people like playing them. not a niche game like city builder (IZ) or autobattler (Arena)

[jovial spade]

What happens to our city builder Zero, if the MMo releases and does decently well?

How does our game change, from that MMO population increase?

[copper falcon]

more fuel sales -> more fuel distributed among IZ players for burning fuel in IZ.

also if skins from blueprints discovered in IZ are used in MMO (which is not guaranteed i suppose rn), there will be higher demand for them. rn sales are very low, and the price.

[jovial spade]

Would the MMO effect the current payout on the leaderboard for Zero?

Currently #1 gets 250, I think? Would that change with the MMO?

[copper falcon]

directly not, payouts depend on number of active players of IZ, but MMO could stimulate more people to play IZ, but this is speculation.

[jovial spade]

Gotcha, ok makes sense

Well, Im finally off the free plot.
Got my first real / paid land

[copper falcon]

welcome to the game

[jovial spade]

Its no where near as good as the free plot lol. Free plot had like 6 ele and 3 fuel nodes.
This paid land has like 3 ele and 1 fuel. So I guess Im going to have to use a converter thing for the 3rd element

haha ty

[copper falcon]

yep, converters is a must usually

free land's layout is based on tier 3 land i suppose.

or may be tier 2, never played it myself

[jovial spade]

I see, so the main difference between T1-T4 lands, is the amount of extraction nodes they have on them?

[copper falcon]

t3 and t4 also have some other features, but i don't have them in my bag, so don't remember exactly what😅

[jovial spade]

How realistic / possible is it to play this game, put time into it, and use only rewards from playing it, to aquire new lands.
Like without having to use money out of my pocket. Is there any real way to get more lands / continue to increase in rank etc. ?

[copper falcon]

guys form top 50 def can do this using rewards moni

[copper falcon]

the features are called landmarks, they amplify production of materials (tier 3) and fuels ( tier 4) if i remember correctly.

[jovial spade]

When you get the reward money from being in top 50.
Does that go directly into your wallet on the illuvium website?
Then when you buy a land off the market, it takes it right out of that profile balance?

[copper falcon]

idk, i am not in top 50 i suppose they go to your Passport. ask some guys who get rewards.

[jovial spade]

Haha yeah, Ill have to do that.
All this e currency / crypto stuff is confusing to me.
Like in order to buy land off the illuvium website market, you need to already have a completely seperate wallet with some kind of crypto money in it, to then transfer to the websites wallet, to then use that money to buy the land, I think?

[copper falcon]

yeah, sort of. i suppose you call Immutable Passport "website wallet"?

[jovial spade]

I just mean when I go to the website, and click my profile there is a 0 balance wallet

I guess thats the immutable passport?

[copper falcon]

well crypto needs some getting used to, that's true. not very user friendly yet.

[copper falcon]

yes

i hope there will be a way to put money in the Passport right from your bank card one day🙏

[jovial spade]

Yeah, thats what I was hoping to do lol

[copper falcon]

this could help a lot to onboard non-crypto ppl.

[jovial spade]

And yeah it looks like each tier land has the same exact amount of ele and fuel nodes.
T1 = 3 ele 1 fuel, $50~
T2 = 6 ele 3 fuel, $100~
T3 = 9 ele 6 fuel, $400~
T4 = 12 ele 9 fuel, $1,400~

[copper falcon]

yes. and t3 and t4 also have landmarks

[jovial spade]

It seems like T2 is really the best "deal" ? Or like, best bang for your buck?

Yeah and the landmarks, though I dont know exactly what they do

Maybe increase production on fuel things?

[copper falcon]

if i remember correctly, a landmark on t3 increases elements production, and one on t4 - fuel production. but not sure 100%

it's hard to say what land is the best bang for your buck. may be t2... also future development of the game can change the balance i suppose, if the Team will find time to touch IZ🤔

[jovial spade]

What do they typically spend the most time on?
Like which of their games has the most players, and which is their priority updating / fixing / balancing etc. ?

[copper falcon]

as i understand, most of resources are now on MMO. then Arena, then Beyond, and the last is IZ rn.

if MMO starts to earn moni they can grow the Team, it used to be much bigger, they cut it a lot to less burn money.

[jovial spade]

Is there going to be any kind of open beta / test of this MMO?
Like is it level based, skill based, what is character progression like etc. ?

[copper falcon]

yep, it's called Vertical Slice, watch this on 29th to know more #📣〕announcements message

[jovial spade]

Oh nice, yeah Ill def. check that out in a few days

[copper falcon]

i suppose you can watch previous talks as well, to get more info on what's going on. if you have time.

[jovial spade]

yah I just watched the dev log on their youtube from 3 months ago

They mentioned in that that they planned to have something in players hands in actually see / test / play etc. in the next few months

So hopefully this update in a couple days, is that lol

[copper falcon]

we'll see. i wouldn't expect they will say that the Vertical Slice is ready and set a concrete date when it starts. my guess is it will happen early next year😅

[twin sequoia]

There are more differences in efficiency: https://illuvium.io/news/51-illuvium-land-sale-explained

[jovial spade]

I see, so this 33.3% tier boost from the T2 lands means when extraction elements and fuels, you get 33% more?

So like if you typically get 100 carbon on T1, that same exact base on t2 map would give 133 carbon instead?

[copper falcon]

Press an info button on an extractor or converter, read the description. there are Plot tier multipliers on production of every unit.

so its both more fuel and elements sites and also this multiplier the higher is a tier.

[jovial spade]

Yeah, I see now

So if these higher tier plots are so much better, and so much more expensive.
Why are the top people in the leaderboards just spamming almost all T1 maps?
Rather than like 10-20 T2 or T3 maps?

Does having a maxed out T1 map give the same amount of leaderboard points that a maxed out T2 map does? Or close enough that it wouldnt make sense to buy a T2 for $100, when you can buy 2x T1s for the same $100?

[copper falcon]

not sure exactly, i am more of a blueprint discovery guy, all my lands are specialized on this, fuel gen was kinda boring for me😅 may be LB whales could elaborate🤔

LB doesn't count blueprints at all for points, only production part of the game.

[jovial spade]

Oh really? Hmm, that seems kind of weird?

Maybe thats something theyll add later?

[copper falcon]

yep, exactly.

may be, the question is when

i even wrote a suggestion to add blueprints leaderboard and also give prizes to top places in it. but i doubt the Team will bother now, all in for MMO and Arena

[jovial spade]

Yeah that could be cool to have a 2nd leatherboard for zero, where one is all about fuel, the other is about the blueprint biodata stuff

[copper falcon]

yep, true! see, those who just come to the game see this, but those who are long in the game and high on the fuels LB, they are mostly against this, cus defending their turf apparently😏 don't want to share their sweet prizes with fellow players who chose blueprints over fuel

[twin sequoia]

The resources extracted and produced passively by converters is affected by the multiplier, but the conversion quantity no. It is 75 at level 6 for every tier (but 90 in tier 4 for those converters affected by the landmark). In a T1, 99% of points come from converter; in a T4 "only" 75% is from converters and 25% from extractors. But the difference in price is so high that the T1 are the most cost effective.

A T1 is around 4538-4988 daily points. A T4 6390-7800 daily.

[jovial spade]

Ok, that summed it up perfectly for me, thanks.

So looks like its just better overall to stack T1s at the moment (If going for leaderboard)

How often are T1 lands sold? Is it like a daily thing where multiple lands are being traded/ sold?

Or just a couple a week maybe?

[twin sequoia]

Random

It may be days without sells and then 4 in a day

But now it is changing, no new offerings in the market, so prices should increase. And with the MMO news and training gym, may be more

[jovial spade]

Whats the most common way to buy a land?
When trying to buy from the illuvium website it says I can't use an actual card.
It gives the 3 options of IMX Wallet, an other network wallet, or a centralized exchange.
As someone new to crypto stuff, and doesn't really understand the differences between those 3 things.

Which would be the easiest, and/or safest thing for me to go with?

[twin sequoia]

I always used Illuvidex with ETH in the IMX account. It was hard at first. There is info in the roadmap to wase onboarding and a revamp of Illuvidex. I don´t know if that will include payments with credit card but, if I list a plot, I do it in ETH, so cannot be bought directly with a credit card.

[hot prairie]

I use metamask wallet to connect to my passport account, once connected you can send eth from metamask or other wallet to your passport account via layerswap.

[loud gate]

I know i'm not the first person to ask this, and I probably wont be the last. But like, is it worth it? Like is it something that can realistically pay for itself? or is it just an entertaining money sink? i've been thinking about buying land for a minute, I enjoy the gameplay loop, but i'm not really looking to dump money into something just for the fun of the game when there are so many alternatives that are cheaper or outright free..

[twin sequoia]

Play what you enjoy

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-entrance-wwe-champion-wwe-raw-gif-12577929

The champion is here

[distant grove]

question about to buy some land would the land go to the passport wallet or my other wallet

[woven tangle]

Depends on which wallet you buy it with

You can do both honestly if you want to and you can always move them between the two

[twin sequoia]

are you gonna become an actor too? 😜

[woven tangle]

I am just here to help

[lyric lodge]

Can anyone advise why we have rewards for top 100bin all others games but in zero only top 50 ?

[twin sequoia]

I would like to know too

[radiant sky]

I assume because zero only had half the rewards and they didn't felt meaningful when being spread between 100 accounts.

[lyric lodge]

But rewards have been increased now

[radiant sky]

increasing or decreasing rewards is apparently way less work than increasing the amount of people that are eligible.
But if you feel top 100 should be rewarded, feel free to gather sentiment in #1020759212172775464 and maybe write a proposal 🙂

[lyric lodge]

What do I need to include in the proposal...I think all games should have same rewards tier

[radiant sky]

what do you mean with "rewards-tier"?

[lyric lodge]

Tok 100

Not top 50

[radiant sky]

for writing any proposal i highly recommend contacting one of the <@&1107754780744487002>
they can help you out with format and everything else 🙂

[timber sentinel]

because we already paid for the lands so they don't really care about us anymore

[lyric lodge]

Well we can make a proposal right.... community will decide ?

[radiant sky]

No.
Community feedback and it's sentiment has for sure an impact on development, but they are not decision makers.

When you craft a proposal, it has to go through various instances of approvals.
Community -> ICC -> IMC
And then, if approved, team tries to find best ways and point in time to implement it.

[sacred moss]

If they don't care anymore. Why they bother rewards rank 50 in zero. And as you see in their plan. Zero has coming upgrade with trainings gyms which make zero usefull in coming mmo too.

[sacred moss]

If you think logically. Zero is not producing any earning after you buy it. So we still so lucky they included to pay the rank 50holders.

[twin sequoia]

Well, it gives commissions on traded plots and blueprints. The training gyms will be for Arena too I think

[sacred moss]

Yes you are right about that. But as of now traded plot commissions is very very low or sometimes no movement at all. For now there is no product to sell inside zero unlike other games you can buy skin/disk using fuel. I hope the gyms is not free for land like you buy with fuel to construct or you need some fuel to train or if you need to speed up the training. you need to consume huge amount of fuel to fast track the training. With these zero will have also contributions in burning fuel.

[willow latch]

Hi! I want to sell my land and I'm not sure about its value. The land is #52701:
Lake x2
Outcrop x3
Crystal Deposit x1

Crypton Rift x2
Solon Trench x1

I see a land like this for 0.53ETH, Is it worth the same? Is someone interested on buying it?

[radiant sky]

i can buy a t4 for 0.35ETH.
I highly doubt you can sell a t2 for such a high price.
I would more orientate on the floorprices if you want to sell, and add a bit of premium if you already developped your land a bit.

[willow latch]

I mean, that there is a floor land with same elements and fuels with that price on the marketplace

My land has got the nexus at lvl 9 and fuels at lvl 5-5-6 and elements at lvl 7.
Silos at 35,5m and 3403

[radiant sky]

exacty same elements/fuels doesn't really matter too much, it's more about a balanced distribution.

Having such an impmrovement for sure can give you a good premium.
I would try to advertise that in #🛒〕land-dex because you can't see the improvement on the illuvidex.

[willow latch]

Okay, thanks a lot!

[woven tangle]

Zero raised 72 million dollars it generated more money then any of the other games I think

[woven tangle]

Probably around $100 to $150 max

[sacred moss]

You are absolutely right sir, but remember monhtly expenses and rewards eating it almost all, if i remember it right, we have only few remaining years until all funds is dry up.

[iron laurel]

Most of that was sILV2 though. Not much ETH.

[twin sequoia]

But without it no game would had been possible.

[iron laurel]

Agreed. At least to an extent. It really put Illuvium on the map, even more so than giving it money, it was good advertising.

I got my 7/9 of my plots at landsale using sILV2. The other 2 I won.

[twin sequoia]

And I don´t include myself, as plot prices at landsale were a madness for me and didn´t even try to buy one

[radiant sky]

that's actually not really correct.
72m worth of tokens have been spent, which is not the same as raising 72m.
The revenue was roughly 8m if i remember right... which got paid out to stakers.
Dao received somewhat in the ballpark of 2m if i remember right.

[lyric lodge]

Sure but they can just spread it out to 100

[woven tangle]

Have any of the other games generated close or more than 8 mill ?

[woven tangle]

Didn’t they do a Dutch auction for the 20000 lands they sold

[radiant sky]

i don't know, i don't have the total revenue numbers of the other games.

[radiant sky]

yes, it was a dutch auction

[woven tangle]

So if you’re wondering what it really takes to hold first place — it’s simple: 70+ Nexus 9 lands, 5+ hours of playtime every day, and a few short sleep sessions with some power naps in between, lol. If anyone wants to take a shot at the title, that’s the grind you’re signing up for.

https://tenor.com/view/would-you-like-a-shot-at-the-title-martin-riggs-lethal-weapon-are-you-up-for-the-challenge-mel-gibson-gif-14596387681895328225

[jovial spade]

He's a machine

Not even human

[iron laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/jinki948-cat-thinking-lay-down-lying-down-gif-7435031737430467785

[ruby merlin]

Beyond is King for making money

[woven tangle]

If their was dailies quest like wow you could count me out lol

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/work-gif-9070352192415256659

[past kindle]

How many biodata are there total 130? Time to convert to fuel?

[harsh dew]

205 total illuvials in set 1:
75 illuvials are for Tier 0 which don't Skin. 205-75 = 130 skins

[agile sigil]

Just purely out of speculation, what will be the benefit of Illuvium Zero landholders? I go in and harvest my 2 lands and have all blueprint but does this fit the ecosystem?

[jovial spade]

What level of fuel converters is more efficient?
Like for example, I just upgraded my crypton collider to level 2, but it's still a 1 to 1 ratio.
T1 was 3 solon for 3 crypto, T2 is 6 solon for 6 crypto.

Is there a point where I'll get more back from converting than what I put in? If so, what tier of converter is that?

[jovial spade]

Beyond isn't an actual game though, right?
Isn't it just like loot boxes that you buy and hope you get something worth a lot that you can re-sell?

[copper falcon]

he means it makes money for the Team, not for the players😉 except those few who was lucky to get something very rare and sell it with profit.

[copper falcon]

150% converters always convert 1 to 1, or else it would be infinite printing of fuel😅

levels just convert more for every cycle

[ruby merlin]

Reality the games are one competition for be better that other. Do not care the how.

[past kindle]

converting fuel isnt profitable, you need to 150% to go 1:1, conversion of fuel is really only to complete infrastructure or scanning/minting

[past kindle]

90%+ goes to staked ILV token holders, cept they voted to give X million to the dev team to stay alive

[copper falcon]

True, you are right, goes to safety pool.

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/last-place-if-youre-not-first-gif-16048016

[drowsy dove]

Hi folks,
I understand that the free land is just a practice field but to make sure I’m not missing anything, is there anything from it that possibly might help the process, or income of the NFT Land? Or in general benefit the account by any means?

[woven tangle]

you can earn credits from it to buy a second builder on another land and the experience of leveling up a land

[hot prairie]

How can you buy stuff on illuvidex with your ilv rewards from leaderboard? Everything is sold in eth or usdc, do you swap them somewhere for eth? Or what do you guys do with them?

[vivid cipher]

You could try using a site called immutableswap to swap some small amounts of ILV for eth. Just be sure to note what the rate is before swapping. Liquidity can be limited.

[hot prairie]

Is this the only way to use it in-game?

[real dawn]

Hi all, I am having a t2 land completely finished and am saving my resources for forever know. If I want to convert my hydrogen etc. now to fuel, making use of the halloween beyond sale - when should I do that?

[radiant sky]

Cheers mate,
You can't convert Zero fuel into unified fuel.
You can just burn it to get a revdis share. (Check pins "how fuel burn cycles work")

[real dawn]

Yes, thanks! That is what I mean. So if I burn now, I would get rev dis for the start of the halloween event is what I get.
Does someone know the expected return for forexample 1000 Krpyton or so

[hot prairie]

Between 5 and 10 cents something

For 1000, i had around a dollar for burning 12,000 fuel couple weeks ago

So its not worrh much at the moment

[real dawn]

hahaha okay. Thanks!

[radiant sky]

correct, the start of the halloween event in beyond is in this cycle.

[woven tangle]

Rewards should be Top 50 payouts only until we get more players — because reaching Top 100 with 1 land is too easy.
We’re rewarding real grinders who invest time and play multiple lands. Say No to Participation Trophy

https://tenor.com/view/myhome-50lakhs-gif-11659973563001185124

[vivid cipher]

It’s a quick way to get eth to use in the IlluviDex. If you want to use your rewards to play the game then claim the rewards as fuel for paying for the game costs.

[woven tangle]

I think the Overworld production payout and the fuel burn leaderboard rewards should be combined, with 50% allocated to each. Let’s be honest — the current fuel burn rewards are very small.

[rotund forum]

Hi. Is there a schedule of how much the awards are in zero now? Before when you ended up in 21-50 it was 1 ilv, but now (besides the vesting period) it is not a round number it seems. Anyone have any info on that?

[radiant sky]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/leaderboard/zero

can check on the leaderbaord and switch over to "Rewards Tier"

[woven tangle]

@potent dock I sent you a fr I have a question for you

[cerulean kettle]

Anyone know which Blueprints appear to be the most desired? I get T5-S3, would be due to difficulty, but trying to determine based on which skins are being desired and which BPs are needed for those skins. Any directions would be greatly appreciated.

[iron laurel]

I notice in Arena that most people seem to play with Mozart and Bach. Maybe they will be more popular than Hilde and Chopin skins - depending on the drone role in the MMO of course. Hilde currently is the most popular OW drone.

The skins for suits are having an overhaul and we don't know what will happen in the MMO with them. We might find out something tomorrow when Kieran does the town hall I hope?

It is hard to make these things without knowing how they will fit into the game.

[cerulean kettle]

Appreciate that intel. Currently I’m focusing on gathering all T3S3 BPs for Tier 1 plots and gathering all T5S3 BPs for Tier 2 plots. Too much to mint beyond T3S3 BPs from a Plot Tier 1.

Figured I’d just get them all at these levels then determine what’s desired on targeting what to mint.

[iron laurel]

I worked on just one of each. So, I only did one suit skin for each Illuvial. Then I worked on Hilde because that is my favourite drone but am now doing other drones. It is kind of a guess as to what will be best.🙂

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/vaughn-chat-joey-gif-4695051567019087757

[cerulean kettle]

It’s a guess, but was trying to watch what’s being sold and the price. Of course it all comes down to OW new release.

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-sunset-lionking-simba-mufasa-gif-10381526802838575407

[austere verge]

☺️Hi,I have a question : if I buy a (Illuvium Tier 4 land) from Illuvium Dex or somewhere else, will it be usable for me to build in Illuvium Zero Inside the Tier 4 land I bought ? To make me an ( fuel ) for my journey to teleport stage 1 onwards in the illuvium overworld game ?

[radiant sky]

no, you actually can't use your fuel from land.
You can just burn it for a share of the total revenue.
Can see details for it pinned in this channel (How fuel burn cycles work)

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-super-saiyan-goku-gif-5009523

popping off now

[austere verge]

Thank you ☺️👍 So I have to learn other ways to get fuel

[copper falcon]

just buy it😉

[jovial spade]

Does increasing the level of fuel extractors ever give more than 1 per 2 hours?

Like my solon dredge rank 1 is 2 solon per 4 hours. Rank 2 is 3 solon per 6 hours.
So still essentially just 1 fuel per 2 hours.
Does that ever change?

[twin sequoia]

yes, with each lvl for the better. At lvl 6 it is 38 fuel each 24hrs (minus path bonus)

[mortal smelt]

Apparently no one in the team has experience in real estate or economics and the person they hired is a wanker. Going through codes to change it to a MMO is tremendous yet the simple crap like zero is put indefinitely on hold. GME was just hype to help their bags. Nothing for community just the team and council lol what a joke

Biggest joke in web3 bar none and Kieran and his big azz mouth caused everything to happen.

[twin sequoia]

troll?

[blazing ferry]

Did you guys see there was an update to the game this week? Any clue what changed?

I stopped paying attention to #📣〕announcements due to arena spam, but assume there wasn't one?

[twin sequoia]

Yes, today I saw it was 1.8.3, but don´t know what happened this time

[twin sequoia]

No, the last 3 minor patches weren´t announced nor published

[blazing ferry]

guys, take credit if you're fixing stuff for us please!!

anyone?

[dusty cobalt]

it's really nothing worth mentioning, minor none gameplay related updates to stay up to date with latest tech stacks

[mortal smelt]

Here before you got in son

[twin sequoia]

And why does it make what you said better, or truth or more valid?

[mortal smelt]

Cause I’ve seen how everything was delegated from the start of the show, nobody to take the blame till it started to hit social media and then it was a weak signal. They had so much time to prep not only to mention all those who’ve invested but instead were head deep in their own minds it took them releasing and backlash to change course. If your idea was that great you wouldn’t change on a dime. And there I drop the mic.

[woven tangle]

sounds like you my have some lands to sell me at rock bottom prices ?

[mortal smelt]

Nah I’ll rather extract from illuvium ecosystem and should they succeed continue doing so until I feel it’s worth it to sell

Tried to give them the benefit of the doubt but after being used and abused there is no point in putting back into the game.

[woven tangle]

They keep building and updating so I will continue to invest and I enjoy the games so all good here

[mortal smelt]

All good I’m not here to stop anyone from being involved just expressing myself.

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-dark-knight-here-we-go-the-joker-gif-15343519

[ruby merlin]

They've already been sold; they're the ones that appear in Tokentrove's activity section accepting offers at 50% off.

I think no one who averages prices would come to cry — maybe I’m wrong.

[woven tangle]

Didn’t know you could offer that low

[ruby merlin]

I was joking

[copper falcon]

Hey guys, check this out, a possible solution to the IZ blueprints problem #1434255536978788403 message Please comment and react

[twin sequoia]

It seems people doesn´t matter much announcements in discord xD

Anyways, quite an improvement over previous streamings

[woven tangle]

Stuck at work blah

[blazing ferry]

Anything need to be done about existing suit skins?

[copper falcon]

yes, there are 130 * 18 = 2340 suit skin blueprints just in set 1, it's too much work to do for artists, the number needs to be shrunk somehow, not hurting those who have already discovered them.
ah wait, you have read the proposal and reacted, so you mean what to do with already minted NFTs... hm, i'd left them as they are, just from some point in time started the new system, with new designs of skins, and those old would stay as a first version. could become rare with time:)

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/im-king-of-the-world-jack-dawson-leonardo-dicaprio-fabrizio-titanic-gif-20723447

[tall canopy]

Once you have all 130 biodata is there a need to keep scanners around?

[jovial spade]

So what happened with the update the other day?

Did they say anything about Zero?

[vivid cipher]

No

[copper falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/ultimate-maga-mega-maga-maga-trump-the-king-mr-president-gif-11500177901277447244

[copper falcon]

Hi guys! Are only Kirito, Mozeen and me concerned how to make suit skin blueprints better? Please have a look #1434255536978788403 message

[ebon peak]

Hey

I listed a skin suit

But I can’t see it in the dex

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0xf454bb31d35993d023a0ed56a8307111ee256818/5811

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/overworld/equipment-and-gear/suits?skin=Squid

[radiant sky]

looking at the wrong place.
need to look in cosmetic section

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/overworld/enhancements/suit-skins?search=squizz

[ebon peak]

Thnx

[jovial spade]

Is metamask wallet a firefox addon?

[twin sequoia]

No, metamask is a crypto wallet itself, but have addons for web browsers, including Firefox

[jovial spade]

Can you give me a link to the main thing itself? Cause when Im googling it, I keep getting the firefox addon extension, not the actual wallet.

Like I'll go to metamask website, hit "get metamask", but it keeps trying to install the web extension.
Do I make the account through there?

[iron laurel]

Do not trust anyone messaging you and know that the team and mods will never message you.

Go to YouTube and do a search there. CoinGecko has a video that describes MetaMask and I am sure there are others from some big names. Or look on X. Be careful about links.

[jovial spade]

Ok ty

[copper falcon]

as i know, metamask exists as addon to a lot of browser, and also as an app for Android and iOS.

and there is no link to it, you can find it in stores of browser extensions and mobile phone apps. it has a page on github tho, with its source code.

the link to github page can be found in the description of extensions.

[twin sequoia]

That´s it, as dreadhamsta says. You can use it with any browser at metamask io or download the extension for the browsers you use. I don´t use it on mobile, but there is no client desktop for PC.

[harsh dew]

ILZ could use a little update here: it's not that hard to implement it. Just add the image of the Minting blueprint just like it's done with the Research.
Will increase the UX, specially those Minting blueprint take time >6 days.

[copper falcon]

yeah, i personally have to write down what i am minting where😅

[ebon peak]

I think adding an icon that shows minted blueprints is better

Why can we mint a blueprint for many times?

[copper falcon]

seems like you are talking about the same thing with different words😅

[ebon peak]

Is there any change or difference after minting many times? Or we have the same skin?

How to delete a blueprint from inventory ?

[copper falcon]

the same for now, but probably the minting should be limited somehow

[ebon peak]

Yes bro, it’s better to telling different ways and ideas in another words to better understanding

[copper falcon]

okok😅

its the word better that triggered me, cuz its the same idea

[copper falcon]

for example every next minting adds some more time in progression, so say afteer 10 mints it's just too long to wait🤔

but what if there are 10 millions of MMO players one day, and they all want to have all skins🤣

[twin sequoia]

You cannot. Only can delete Biodata.

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/rich-im-rich-biatch-goodtohaveland-stevie-gif-13408755

[ebon peak]

Ok, we will remove the biodata and we find again, does the minted blueprint of that biodata has differences ?

[twin sequoia]

No, every biodata and blueprint is equal

[hot prairie]

Fuel burn leaderboard going crazy for 0.16 eth 😲

[ruby merlin]

Welcome

[woven tangle]

HJ thanks for keeping my throne warm but I will take it from here

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-doctor-doom-sitting-on-throne-throne-sitting-down-gif-18760299

[copper falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/travolta-lost-iron-throne-confused-wtf-game-of-thrones-gif-8250357055523571082

[twin sequoia]

Hi Jeremy. Android yesterday updated to version 1.8.4 but PC still on 1.8.3. Is this ok?

[dusty cobalt]

Yes, same as previously some specific updates required by Google specifically nothing gameplay related

[woven tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/working-on-it-under-construction-gif-23162421

my lands

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/get-to-work-work-simpsons-smithers-trendizisst-gif-15496843

[twin sequoia]

How many currently?

[woven tangle]

88 I think I sold 5 to a friend

[twin sequoia]

But not all producing right?

[woven tangle]

they are all producing why wouldnt they be lol

[twin sequoia]

At max rate I meant, if you are still working on them. I´m using 39 of my 45 plots, but some of them are half-built or almost completed but not yet

They take very long to develop

[woven tangle]

I can collect on up to 70 lands most have lvl 5+ convertors but I normaly dont have to collect on all of them

[regal robin]

hello can someone explain me whata blueprint means

and buying a land

i know the meaning but just seeking from experienced players how to start

do i need to buy a land to start getting drops? cus I just started with my zero camp when I downloaded

so that is my camp? how do i know later how much is worth it?

[radiant sky]

The high level guide pinned in this chanel might help you for couple of first questions popping up, like with the blueprint.
Feel free to ask questions about topics that are still unclear.

[radiant sky]

The plot you started with is the F2P land-plot.
You can't burn fuel or create NFT's in it, so it's more about testing stuff or just try out if you like it.
You keep the coins on your account tho, which you could use to buy builders for a paid plot.

[regal robin]

gotcha

so if i want to burn fuel or create NFTs on it, I need to buy a land

[radiant sky]

yes, can only do that on bought land.
When buying land might wana check the illuvidex but also #🛒〕land-dex where people try to sell land that's already built up to some point.