🎮〕illuvium-zero

[radiant sky]

Yes, that seems accurate

[hazy hinge]

that is such a shame. the main reason I bought land was to use fuel for my overworld runs.. I do hope they make that possible again somehow.

[radiant sky]

I hope so too

[hazy hinge]

What would be the best place for me to leave some feedback on this?

[mortal smelt]

So we can’t sell the unified fuel?

Is this the gotcha moment we were all waiting for?

[radiant sky]

Yes
Just illuvium is selling unified fuel

[radiant sky]

Either create a thread in #1020759212172775464 or maybe in
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1347194091418419352

Would be best

[twin sequoia]

@radiant sky do you know what would be the reasons to have a plot in one region or another? For fuel it doesn´t matter, so I can only imagine the probability of scanning some biodata earlier. But, as all biodata can be scanned in every region at the end, is there any other reason?

Perhaps undeveloped fueatures, but I don´t know of any. I can imagine "gyms" better suited for Illuvials of that region, but it is only an idea.

[radiant sky]

The difference was i Chance of finding biodata with specific affinities.
In this season it didn't really Make a difference, this might Change tho with set2

[radiant sky]

Yea, future features for sure could be influenced by regions. But since Zero developement is on Pause, this is very far into the future 🙂

[slim wigeon]

Anybody knows what happened to my fuel I harvested for one year?

I think it was converted to Overworld?

[radiant sky]

https://illuvium.io/news/fuel-migration-what-you-need-know

[celest wagon]

Can't we send fuel directly to play?

[radiant sky]

You can not

[slim wigeon]

Uf this is rough for 600k fuel farmed for one year with 16 plots of land I receive ca 6k fuel worth 50 USD

I

[celest wagon]

everyone agrees with this new feature

[celest wagon]

........

[radiant sky]

Which new Feature?

[celest wagon]

not being able to use our fuel to play?

[radiant sky]

Ah, no.
Obviously nobody likes it

[celest wagon]

It won't stay like this?

[radiant sky]

Nobody knows.

[slim wigeon]

I think if any OG is left after this would be a miracle not even able to play with plots we bought for 15-16 eth each is insanity

I wish you all a good time and keep safe

[deep granite]

what is this currently doing?

[tardy falcon]

nuthin afaik... u gotta update cuz supposed to be burn not transfer

[celest wagon]

save us because most people buy land to self-finance the overworld

[deep granite]

hmm.. forcing me to update before playing would have been good programming call 😅

[solid cove]

@vivid cipher I have concerns that my illuvidex account is not linked to the recently purchased IZ land, since I did not receive the converted excess fuel to my account, can I dare to burn fuel now without fear that it will be taken into account?

[vivid cipher]

Was This land purchased prior to the fuel conversion?

[tall crypt]

Awesome.

[vivid cipher]

We can check on the illuvidex and see what you have there. Should the land be in your Passport or metamask (secondary wallet)?

[radiant sky]

I know... Told councils on multiple occasions latest try was in
#1347194091418419352 message

They still seem to believe it's not the case.
Will write another Post later when i feel a little better.
Super sick currently

[solid cove]

Yes

[solid cove]

I have land in my passport

[solid cove]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/account/profile?_gl=1*7ryyuf*_gcl_au*ODY4MjU1OTkzLjE3NDAxMjk3MDc.&collection=Land

[last tiger]

T4 are meeting the revenue % yesterday I was almost at 1% now I'm 0.5%

And I have 4 T2

[wide bobcat]

Hi Guys, I cant seem to find any new Biodata in the last 4 weeks, is there a way to check if I have found all of them or which ones I am missing? Also, any news on the future of all these blueprints we are accumulating? thnx

[tawdry plank]

There are 130 of biodata available

[wide bobcat]

where did you get that no. from?

[radiant sky]

It's all t1- T5 illuvials
T0 biodata can't be found

[burnt merlin]

Does anyone have a T3 land and an opinion on whether or not it's worth having? I see the prices are all super low compared to what everything was minted at, anyone have any insight as to whether or not a T3 purchase would be worth it? My little T2 doesn't seem to be worth much these days

[radiant sky]

Be aware of scammers.

[wide bobcat]

hmm, So what's the total number of biodata we can find?

[stable minnow]

130

[radiant sky]

130

[sacred moss]

T3 land can generate 450 to 500 fuel at max lvl. T2 only 150 to 180 fuel.

[wide bobcat]

I feel we can find more if we try harder xD

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bullish-bullish-af-buy-buy-moar-crypto-gif-4023638677059070706

[viscid bolt]

Wow, people bought out over half of my blueprint inventory. My biggest sale day yet (as far as numbers, not total revenue)

[wide bobcat]

congrats! what rate you selling ur stuff at?

[viscid bolt]

pennies, unfortunately

[wide bobcat]

have people found all 130s yet?

[wide bobcat]

why you selling them? maybe wait for a better market? Devs and council are working hard to balance economy

[viscid bolt]

I'm up to 89

[radiant sky]

yea some for sure

[wide bobcat]

well what do you do with the scanners after that? they just be collecting dust

[radiant sky]

i replaced them with other structures

[viscid bolt]

Have you seen the rate of increasing number of blueprints? It is disheartening. Also, some days not one blueprint is sold in the whole system, other days just a few. My inventory was growing and growing, I just wanted to take a few profits.

[wide bobcat]

more research buildings miight be a good option, there are just so many blueprints to find

[wide bobcat]

I havent sold any yet, i just collect

[viscid bolt]

You can only have 5

[viscid bolt]

I hope you are right about a golden era coming. 🙂

[wide bobcat]

5 of each type right? 5 for drone and 5 for ranger?

[radiant sky]

you can only build 5 material labs each landplot

[viscid bolt]

I meant 5 research stations (material labs). There are 4 drone and 18 armor varieties available for each biodata

[radiant sky]

actually 18 armor varieties

[viscid bolt]

Yeah, sorry, you're right! Just edited above 🙂

[wide bobcat]

ah nice didnt know that. Also I saw zero transducer have lower cost for T1 as compared to T2s and T3s, so its better to have them build in T1s right

[radiant sky]

it's actually science cost in general.

[wide bobcat]

hard to catalogue them in game, do you maintain an excel?

[radiant sky]

many are... i'm too lazy 😄

[viscid bolt]

With multiple land plots in your account, do the biodata and blueprints share between plots?

[radiant sky]

just in a megacity, otherwhise they don't

[wide bobcat]

i think without a megacity, lower tier plots have very less % chance to research biodata.. element cost is quite high

well I am heading out.. thanks for the info guys I appreciate it 🙂 cheers!

[chrome grove]

How many biodata’s are there in total?

[radiant sky]

130

[radiant sky]

no, ser.
not since low tier science got buffed.
Scan, research and minting blueprints cost are all now based on tier.

[sudden zinc]

GM! Hope you are doin well! I still did not fully get the point regarding new system. There is still the 3 fuels but they will be combined as new fuel, which can be burned and not sold anymore at Illuvidex, correct? And later on I will get an amount for my burns to my Iluvidex wallet as ETH correct?

[radiant sky]

Cheers mate
You Burn the fuel ingame, same place where you Sent fuel to your Ranger before
Burned fuel will give you a share of the revenue of that cycle you burned fuel.

You can't Transfer fuel to your Ranger anymore

[sudden zinc]

Thanks! And what can I do with this one?

[radiant sky]

Can redeem or sell.
You get the $value written on it in fuel

[sudden zinc]

and what was the intention initially for this?

In my inventory it shows no Illuvilas allthough I have the following Biodate...

is there an additional step to be done that they become an Iluvial? Thanks..

[radiant sky]

To be redeemed or Sold 😄

[radiant sky]

Biodata are not illuvials.
It's as the Name says biodata of those illuvials.
You can reasearch biodata in Material labs to get blueprints of that biodata.
Blueprints are Kind of Like receipes for skins

[sudden zinc]

Thanks.. and then they will become Illuvials?

[radiant sky]

No

Skins are cosmetics for your Ranger or drone, so he/it Looks different than just having the Standard armor.
Can either use the blueprints yourself, or try to sell them in the market

[sudden zinc]

ok... I cant find any Fuel Crate in Trading... Are they still worth something or was I late to sell them??

ah and where can I find the fule, which was above 1000 before the new fuel cames in? Thanks..

[radiant sky]

It basically is worth the $ value written on it

[sudden zinc]

ah and when I buy Fuel for it, this I can burn, correct?

[radiant sky]

That got migrated to your Ranger.
It basically got converted into new unified fuel with a conversion Rate of 89:1 and sent to your ranger

[radiant sky]

You should be able to redeem it to get unified fuel

[sudden zinc]

My ranger?? Oh dear...🤣, where can I find him?? Never saw him...🫣

many Thanks for your convience regarding my questions!! 🙏

[radiant sky]

It's basically your passport when you login on the website

[sudden zinc]

OK and can still something be done with that fuel?

ah here..

[radiant sky]

Yea, you can do Runs in overworld, buy cosmetics, do automated drone runs.
Basically anything illuvium sells you is paid in unified fuel

[sudden zinc]

ok, but I can not burn it..?

[radiant sky]

That fuel on your passport, you can not Burn or sell... Can just use it

[sudden zinc]

Thanks! I think thats it for today! A lot of stuff... Was not doing that much in the past... many Thanks!!

[lyric hamlet]

Hey so where can I find wth is going on with my lands

And my fuels

A step by step

[grand silo]

I have 135 bio datas, shouldnt it be 130?

[radiant sky]

In a megacity?
When creating a megacity, all found biodatas get gathered in 1 Big "data storage", so you likely have duplicates

[grand silo]

yeah have a mc, dont have stage 3 ramphy yet. Need to delete some then. cheers

[radiant sky]

Check the latest #📣〕announcements and you are up to date

[grand silo]

will there ever be any more scans needed after the 130?

[radiant sky]

When Set 2 drops i guess

[grand silo]

got it, wont delete the scanners then

[quiet heath]

For people burning a bit of fuel, there is currently a nice arbitrage opportunity

In promotional (illuvidex) the fuel crates are selling, in some cases, below 50% face value...

Do what you want with this info😉

[tardy falcon]

Happy to finally finish setting up one of my megacities
If anyone is curious... this is the craziness

[iron laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-amelia-shepherd-im-impressed-impressed-impressive-gif-4112066844897394507

[hearty cradle]

reminds me of playing Anno

in anno theres a way hit max population by filling the map with houses

[tardy falcon]

Cool... just googled it and yahh has a similar vibe with all the structures

[serene iris]

That is so cool..... Im very jealous

[sacred moss]

If T2 land merge at T4 land, is the T2 land produce like T4 in fuel? Example T2 only produce at 50 crypton and then after merge with t4 produce 150. Is something like happen or still the same production.

[tardy falcon]

No... T2 will still produce the same
But converters and extractors will benefit from the T4 fuel bonus efficiency

[sacred moss]

Oh i see, thank you for info and answering.

[harsh dew]

Wow must be kind of hard to look at is at some point ?

[solid cove]

Is it normal that in "activity" my account is not shown as the owner?😁
I don't even know what to cling to anymore in the question of why the burned fuel 1:89 didn't come to my passport)

[lyric lodge]

Good question

[lyric lodge]

So does the eth automatically go to your wallet ? Can we also not by credits for ADR with fuel anymore ?

[bold field]

Can you tell me how to send Morphopod from OW to zero?

[solid cove]

We haven't received any yet, just the first week

[tall crypt]

This fuel cannot sell. Only derivated for play.

[lyric lodge]

So can we use labs fuel to swap to credits for adr ?

[grand silo]

wtf, thats insane! what level is this, is it a 2x2?

[grand silo]

I see you only have 1 nexus can we delete all but one now?

[radiant sky]

if you just bought it, you might have to refresh page or clear browser data.

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[radiant sky]

it looks like you have to build them first to max level to unlock the max cap for structures.
But after that you can delete all but 1

[grand silo]

just so I have this right, if I delete one if wont reduce the structure limit?

[radiant sky]

it won't reduce it yes.
But make sure to get to lvl 9 before you recycle, otherwhise you won't get the max structure limit increase.

[grand silo]

got it all mine are lvl 9. cheers for posting the screen shot i would have left them there untouched

[mortal smelt]

Man can I get a refund

[jaunty rain]

wow, how much fuel is this priducingnper day?

[bold field]

thanks for the info, that's really cool, thank you

[solid cove]

No

[lyric lodge]

But that was the whole point of buying land.. ti have fuel for overworld

[solid cove]

I bought it a month ago))

[solid cove]

Now the point of the land is to receive 5% of all illuvium income per week.

[lyric lodge]

But we already had that before so they made land now more worthless ?

[open stratus]

Now it's just easier to sell your fuel, without the hassle of the market.
And you can't actually use the fuel for anything in overworld. - make it on zero - burn it.

[viscid bolt]

I do like the easier selling/burning mechanism for fuel in IZ, but it would be nice to be able to send fuel to your passport for use in OW

[spiral turtle]

Sorry I missed this. How or where do we recieve compensation for our fuel burned? In our Passport Wallet? IMX? or...?

[oblique iris]

How much fuel do I need to burn to obtain 1 unit of unified fuel? 😅 sorry maybe stupid question

[sudden zinc]

GM, will the payout for burned fuel always after every cycle? Thanks..

and will the ETH directly paid into my Illuvidex wallet?

[ornate spindle]

how do you make it look this way ?

this is how mine looks i have to switch between plots to build on them

[radiant sky]

4 Screenshots cropped together i guess

[radiant sky]

You Burn fuel for a share of the revenue Made in that cycle.
You can't "Transfer" fuel to OW anymore

[ornate spindle]

right

[oblique iris]

perfect so I continue to burn my fuel and I wait to see the result 👌thank you

[open stratus]

Who swept the floor.. hard

And why 🤣

[chrome grove]

Has there been any discussions on allowing an edit mode for zero?

Would be so much better if we could redesign our layout without moving one building at a time.

[glacial garnet]

I dont remember anything discussion about this. It would be a great feature for sure, its such a pain

Also, am i the only one who would pay good money to not have plants on my plot? 😄

[iron laurel]

Now that we can go over 201 and have rewards coming, we can finally have a use for those plants to level up.

[tardy falcon]

Yah 2x2 and it’s at level 2594

[tardy falcon]

But make sure they are all at level nine first

[tardy falcon]

Not sure but I’ll keep track today and tell u later tonight

[tardy falcon]

Photoshop

[radiant sky]

yes, got mentioned repeatedly by the community.
Zero development is on pause, so that not coming any time soon i guess

[meager vale]

Is burning fuel the only way we can get rewards from land ?

[real ice]

how to level up more if my land is maxed out all buildings?

[vivid cipher]

Clear plants

[real ice]

i have only one place for plants

[vivid cipher]

You can also find blueprints that you could attempt to sell.

[radiant sky]

burning fuel is to get a share of the revenue illuvium made in that cycle.
not sure what rewards you are reffering to

[real ice]

so only plants now can level up my plot yes

[radiant sky]

you get also exp when you harvest your extractors/converters

[vivid cipher]

I think players also gain XP when harvesting...

https://tenor.com/view/purplebeck-yerim-phone-on-the-gif-19668614

[meager vale]

Tks. Can i send fuel to ow to be use yet ?

[radiant sky]

sending fuel to ow is not possible anymore

[meager vale]

Ok so the only use case for fuel is to burn them to get ilv revenue?

[radiant sky]

yes

[queen folio]

Just to clarify, the token you’d receive as a payout for burning your fuel is ETH… from the Illuvium ecosystem revenue. Payouts are not in ILV.

Is this first fuel burn cycle already in effect? Are we able to see the “end time” of the cycle somewhere?

[faint nexus]

Hello Everyone, quick question, i understand the fuel has been migrated from our plots to somewhere (but where?), when i wanted to make an adr for the first time i noticed that i only had 1800 fuel to proceed when initially i had waaaay more. can someone please clarify where is all the other fuel gone and how can i put it as credit for my adr ?

[radiant sky]

ingame, click the 3 bars and then click burn fuel

[queen folio]

Right right. It has the date but what about timestamp?

[radiant sky]

all fuel above 1k storage from your plots got migrated to your passport account and converted into the new "unified fuel" with a conversion rate of 89:1

[radiant sky]

it's all there is

[queen folio]

Who can we ask to confirm the time? Assuming it’s midnight… maybe Australian time zone. But don’t just want to assume and be incorrect 😅

[faint nexus]

thanks Dr.Spoon, but with the tens of thousands that i had i only got 1800 fuel ? not even enough for two adr at 1200 ?

[solid cove]

I still haven't received anything, 26k of fuel was written down for nothing

[radiant sky]

its probably 00:00 utc.
@whole spear can you confirm?

[radiant sky]

yes, sounds about right

[radiant sky]

honestly i don't know if i received it or not, since i had a ton of fuel on my passport already...

you already opened a ticket, right?

[faint nexus]

my gawd... months and months of playing that stuff and thousands of dollars invested do not pay for two adr at 1200 ?!?

3 T4 and months of playing do not pay two adr !?!

[solid cove]

How to do it correctly?

[radiant sky]

i'm really sorry, i totally feel you... I'm in the same situation.
But that's what council and team decided on.

[faint nexus]

so all that noise on X is true: the state of illuvium is bad. i mean, real bad. what a scamm. it is outrageous

[lethal wyvern]

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Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

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[radiant sky]

i would probably do it ingame in Zero
but you can also "submit a request" on zendesk, link in #❓❓〕support

[faint nexus]

Thanks Dr.Spoon. Sorry for all the heat you take in these guys' name. it is scandalous.

[radiant sky]

no worries, i'm used to it 🙂
and i really feel for everyone here.
tried to change it in https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1346770169871073311 but i guess there was too little uproar for them to take it seriously.

[faint nexus]

Who decided this crap ?

[radiant sky]

Team and Maincouncil

[faint nexus]

jeez. Unbelivable.

thanks, man. sorry for you too. really am.

[radiant sky]

there is an option to refund fuel purchases or fuel that got migrated from your land.
A blog about that should drop soon, looks like it gets held back by council atm because some items aren't clear in there ... idk exactly why...

[faint nexus]

i cannot believe it. i am shocked man. there is no decency left in this project. This is how they reward people that put 100k on there stupid land ? and played it for months ?!

not even two adr ?!?

hahahaha

[glacial garnet]

The fact that your land produced near 0% roi has nothing to do with the recent fuel change bongloy

This is because the game and ecosystem arguably didnt even start

The supply side (ilz/ow) started last summer but without any demand yet everything plummeted to 0 including the value of the fuel

Arena will slowly start in 5 days. This will eventually bring demand when they start leviathan and then start marketing the game. At the same time weve just got 2 new game director to eventually make a game out of the ow foundation

[glacial garnet]

Yes theres that, i agree

I guess its on me for not being on point but as i connect 3-5 times a day for the most part, removing plants takes like half of my contruction time

[faint nexus]

thanks, but this does not change the fact that i received crates that are still valued at 400+ usd when in reality they are worth absolutley nothing. can buy a few adr. this is a scamm, we were told that land owners would be able to pay for runs with their land, so me holding quite a few T4 and having played this crap since day 1 does not pay more than a few adr, is scammy AT BEST.

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[glacial garnet]

Your crates are finally worth what they were meant to be worth with the new system

Your 405$ fuel crate was worth like 5$ before and now its worth 405$

[faint nexus]

I am sorry Patate, but this feels wrong. no matter how it is presented.

[glacial garnet]

Like jag is explaining in the other channel, everything went to 0 (not only for landowners) because theres still no demand

Now this new fuel system put fuel at a fixed high price and demand should come soon

[glacial garnet]

It is very bad that we launched without any demand for multiple months, i agree

But im not kidding when i say your fuel crate was worth 5$ and now its worth 405$

[faint nexus]

thanks Patate 👍

[glacial garnet]

The old fuel on your plot wasnt deleted or stolen, it got converted to the new fuel and if thats only worth a couple $ its because it was only worth a couple $ even as the old fuel

The new fuel is worth 0.01$ the old one was something like 0.0001$

[faint nexus]

but the ratio 89:1 is outrageous.

[glacial garnet]

Auto Drone Runs

Its like doing a run in overworld but instantly instead of running around for 30 mins

Its our form of pack openning

[viscid bolt]

How much is an ADR?

[glacial garnet]

Yes it is, thats how much more down was the fuel compared to where they set it now

[glacial garnet]

Something like 1$ for normal and 9 or 12 for the big pack

[radiant sky]

Thats actually not totally accurate

[faint nexus]

Patate, no grudge held against you, but you can put it in a 1000 different excuses, the actions of the team speak louder than words.

[solid cove]

Soon soon ))

[iron laurel]

I do hear you. Plants are super painful on plots with only one worker especially.

[tall crypt]

Explain more please. I have a lot of crates.

I think a referral system should be implemented. Since I have a lot of lands, I would like to give away fuel to potential players and if these players buy fuel back I can take a small 10% share. Since fuel cannot be transferred from the lands to the game, gift vouchers should be put on sale (amazon, netflix... have a similar system). In this way we all become commercial sellers of the game.

[glacial garnet]

Fuel crates were ruined because their $ value was pegged to the top rail price of fuel. So a 405$ fuel crate was for example 1000 fuels but now has fuel went down a ton those 1000 fuels were now worth couple $ at most

With the new fuel revamp fuel is fixed at a 0,01$ per unit so a 405$ fuel crate will be 40500 fuels, worth 405$ and i cant change

[lyric lodge]

What do you mean starting in 5 days ?

[lyric lodge]

The fact land owners cannot do ADR with fuel is a huge mistake

[tardy falcon]

Agree... but I think it's a larger problem for them. If they allow ADR... then they also allow bypassing of revenue generation and 100% landowner generated economy. All people would need to do is by land and self fund. Illuvium would severely cripple revenue.

Now I'm not against it because I have a lot of land. And I'd love to transfer fuel to account.

But I can also see that they wouldn't make any revenue and the only way Illuvium survives long term is if it generates revenue.

Would also mean you could use your fuel in all areas like beyond and future uses... thereby crippling revenue in all games going forward

[viscid bolt]

Salt in my wounds, it still says this on the website. (see "& Mac") 😦

[tall crypt]

I understand that these boxes are like $405 vouchers. They're only valid for purchasing fuel and spending it in-game. The market value is approximately 50% on all $15, $45, $105, and $405 vouchers. Anyone who wants to spend $10 and receive 1,000 fuel units can buy a $15 voucher and receive 1,500 fuel units. But they can only spend it while playing; they can't burn it and receive an additional share in IZ. But I don't see much change in the Illuvium Events market.

[tall crypt]

What is ADR ?

[tall crypt]

They are depriving a potential seller of their land of the freedom to sell the land at market value. A regular player would end up buying a piece of land to pay for the fuel fee and play Overworld or Arena every day, but since they can't transfer the fuel, they will end up buying the fuel directly and forget about buying the land.

[iron laurel]

I looked for crates on the marketplace but couldn't find them. Could you please tell me where they are?

[radiant sky]

you could cap the max amount of fuel transferred.
And even if you don't cap it, there's no way everybody would just fund his ow runs with fuel... if so, i'm happy to take 100% of the Zero share of revenue with just burning a couple fuel 😄

[tardy falcon]

Defo...worth keeping the convo going i think

[rotund reef]

When is the cutoff for burning our fuel this round?

I think I misunderstood this

[nocturne trail]

I think its the 2nd

[glacial garnet]

The Arena competitive scene starts thursday april 3rd

It will be a slow start though but eventually they will start leviathan (demand side of the ecosystem) and start the marketing

[glacial garnet]

You are right, they are going for about 50% of value right now but a week ago there wasnt any sale even if they were going for under 20% market value

Now that they are worth their true value their market price rose but still not close to their real value because well theres just no demand to buy anything in the illuvium ecosystem right now

[rotund reef]

Yellawolf fan?

[twin sequoia]

I think they will make revdiv available as fuel in OW account to play it. But don´t know when it will be implemented and how

[tardy falcon]

That seems like a good idea

Claim as eth or fuel

[nocturne trail]

Oh yeah lol

[tall crypt]

c

http s://illu videx.illuvium.io/fuel

[tardy falcon]

they are under promotional

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/promotional/events

[iron laurel]

Thanks!

[lyric hamlet]

Can I play my lands right now?

[viscid bolt]

yes

[young nacelle]

extra blueprint, can burned someday? 🤔

[tardy falcon]

Today was about 2300 but also upgrading stuff and a little bit of science. Only did 2 collections of converters today. Might stay up a little later and get more from another sweep.

Each sweep of converters is a few hundred extra fuel/day with the T4 bonus on converters and extractors. I basically set it up a washing machine to get extra hyperion. Make a ton of Hyperion extractors and convert the others... but then convert back in order to not run out of the other fuels. rinse and repeat.

[tardy falcon]

About 2750 today

[jaunty rain]

wow, that is impressive. thank you for sharing

[signal canyon]

Is there a way to claim fule crates?

[hazy jewel]

This is the amount of fuel that automatically has been converted from the exceedence of 1k per type on illuvium zero ?

[twin sequoia]

Why are they sold at less than $8 if they are in theory valued at $15

[twin sequoia]

It is in your profile and also includes what you had in the OW account

[tardy falcon]

Because landowners got them as an airdrop and some players just want to sell them.

[twin sequoia]

I didn´t 😦

[tardy falcon]

They have been listed on illuvidex for a long time

And there is little demand

[hazy jewel]

ok is it possible to check if the conversion has been made correctly? by memory i had more than 100k fuel combined in overworld

[tardy falcon]

Maybe if people start playing more they will sell… but even now they aren’t really selling

[tardy falcon]

Yes

[twin sequoia]

AFAIK not now, some days ago it was still in the balances and I made an snapshot. But I don´t know if it can be seen anyehere else. Just multiply it x89

[hazy jewel]

89X 999 os 89k, i had something around 120k in overworld and all the exceedance in illuvium zero

[signal canyon]

where i cant find it

[twin sequoia]

Open a support ticket

[tardy falcon]

Go to the fuel buy page
It’s in small print under the fuel options

[signal canyon]

ahhh thanks

[fleet ridge]

Hey guys 🙂 As overworld runs are now much more expensive, it seems it would be a good point in time to release training gyms as they would add significant value to land owners

[timber sapphire]

That would be cool but will probably take another few months

[lyric lodge]

So are crates worth buying now ?

[spiral turtle]

On my 2x2 MegaCity my Plot structure Limit is 817. Isnt that an odd # considering I have 4 Plots? Shouldnt the Structure Limit be divisible by 4? What am I missing?

[signal canyon]

Yes i bought a t1 for 7$ and got 1500 fule

[twin sequoia]

Each plot add its own limit, so an odd number is possible. But with 4 Nexus at lvl 9, that structure limit should be 808, never higher. How many building do you have? @radiant sky did you know about this?

[radiant sky]

Yea, it is an odd number.
Idk why exactly. I assumed you get some extra because you could delete some Big Buildings Like EWS or Nexus and replace them with smaller ones.

[radiant sky]

Development of Zero is currently on hold, to be able to focus more on the other Games.

[lyric lodge]

How do you convert it to credits ?

[signal canyon]

in the fule page there is litle buton redeem code

[spiral turtle]

I have 817/817 right now

[harsh dew]

😄

[spiral turtle]

On a MegaCity can i delete the redundant Engineering workshops and Quantum Fabricants? Only leave 1 for each? Any reason not to?

[radiant sky]

Yes, just need one of them.
No, not really a reason to not do it.

Maybe if you want to Split the MC into single plots again... But why would you do that....

[dusty isle]

to do a MC I need 4 adjacent lands?

[timber sapphire]

You need a 2x2 or 3x3

Not just adjecent but in a square

[dusty isle]

you mean, 4 or 9?

[timber sapphire]

Could be both yeah

[dusty isle]

hmm, I was thinking wrong btw. For me was necessary to be adjacent cordinates

so

thanks for helping

[timber sapphire]

Maybe @radiant sky could send the article

[dusty isle]

i need more time to read them

[molten cave]

people, how is it working fuel in lands now, and unified fuel, i can send fuel from my lands, is it working?

[whole steeple]

Wen can we sell the unified fuel on the fuel exchange?

[radiant sky]

?zero-megacity

[lethal wyvern]

What are megacities in Illuvium: Zero?

Megacities allow adjacent plots that make up a 2x2 or 3x3 square to be combined to form one larger plot.

The expected benefits of a mega-city are:

• the ability to share landmark bonuses between plots,
• the ability to share resources between plots with no transfer cost (in either time or resources)
• the ability to share support buildings like the Engineering Lab resulting in increased available space.

Megacities are not currently available in Illuvium: Zero and a specific date for their implementation has not been announced.

[radiant sky]

can ignore last sentence at the very bottom

[radiant sky]

what article are you looking for, ser?

[radiant sky]

you now have to burn fuel to get a share of the 5% revenue distributed to Zero instead of selling your fuel.
Fuel transfer to your Overworld ranger is not possible anymore.

[molten cave]

how do i do that burn?

ah came a new button

how it works, i burn fuel, then I win a share of 5% of illuvium purchases in fuel?

dam, lands are pretty junks now

before i could at least play some free runs some days with my land

[radiant sky]

yes.
proportional to the total fuel burned in that cycle

[timber sapphire]

About megacities

[radiant sky]

this one?

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-zero-patch-notes-1-2-7

[timber sapphire]

I dont know, was just more info for @dusty isle

[radiant sky]

i don't think there was an article dedicated to only megacities, but this one should cover it i think.
Cheers for helping out community members 🙂

[flint compass]

This was resolved. Thank you very much.

[tall crypt]

training gyms ?

[fleet ridge]

they were meant to train the level of Illuvials. So I could build a training gym on my land plot and for a small fee I would train your illuvials (level them up)

[radiant sky]

#1267946993477746822 message

[twin sequoia]

Ummm, that could be the key. But then, if you can really build 817 building, you have another advantage. My theory: the limit is 808 always but, as you can delete EW, QF and Nexus on 3 plots, they keep some type of "phantom" buildings when forming a MC, so you have 808 building built by yourself and 9 "phantom" buildings (for a total of 817) so the MC always think that you have 4 EW, QF and Nexus and there is no need to change the way Nexus, QF and EW work in a plot. The bug is that the limit in Nexus should show as much 808/808.

It could be checked with someone with a 9x9 MC, who would have a limit of 1818+24=1842 buildings

[jolly shuttle]

Does anyone have a guide on max fuel efficiency when building on T3/T4?

[glad relic]

Im looking for the same

[radiant sky]

t3/4 are a bit special, the plots get more on the individual side since there is a lot of element/fuel-sites placed randomly on your land.
You also have the landmark in the center which often leads to special solutions.
Can't really do it like t1/2 where you build your straight roads and squeeze in as many converter as possilble between your power stations.

[tardy falcon]

In terms of value… they are worth full amount in new fuel. So depends on if you wanna play the game and wanna get more spending power.

[jovial valley]

Hello guys, What is the incentives of burning fuels ?

[radiant sky]

you get a share of the 5% of total revenue dedicated to zero.
The size of the share you receive is proportional of your fuel burned to the total amount of fuel burned in zero.

[tardy falcon]

So in other words.... if Illuvium makes $10,000 this week then 5% is $500. If you burn fuel equivalent to 1% of all fuel burned, then you recieve 1% of $500 whichi is: $5

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-16565229595323670098

[tardy falcon]

we all ballers

[viscid bolt]

Are you seriously anywhere near 1%?

[vivid cipher]

I certainly am not.

With 20,000 lands out there it’s pretty tough to get that high. But I suspect there are some big t4 owners actually active.

[vivid cipher]

Wait… is that almost 2m global fuel burn this cycle?

[tardy falcon]

can't wait for my 5 bucks

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-maybe-some-day-someday-one-day-gif-26036494

[uneven pulsar]

interested - what timr is better for burn? time line to 3 aplril or after?)

[tardy falcon]

Have no idea... I'm not really going to worry much about it and just burn daily

[twin knot]

I think we are far from having the 20k lands actively producing fuel...

[vivid cipher]

Definitely true

[twin knot]

but yeah everything we'll be different once we start making revenue

[iron laurel]

I call it DCB.

[mortal mural]

DCB?

[tardy falcon]

Daily Cents Burn?

[iron laurel]

A take off on DCA - Dollar cost averaging.
It doesn't really make sense but it's something I do daily to try to average out the price so...

I think this is one of those thoughts that my brain has that I shouldn't share with others.

[iron laurel]

More accurate.
If you were to get $5 I'm up to 50 cents.

[mortal mural]

i just leave some fuel for next day labs, and keep burning

maybe tomorrow i burn a little more.

but it doesnt seem a lot of money unless you own and run a ton of t4s.

[iron laurel]

It's not a lot of money for them either considering what they spent to buy them.

[mortal mural]

so i just burn, and want to see some cents on my account. sometimes is still amazes me this thing works lol

[tardy falcon]

Yah daily burn makes sense unless they magically change their mind and let ppl use plot to account fuel transfer again... then I'd feel bad

[mortal mural]

first revdis i was ecstatic

[tardy falcon]

But if u burn daily that means less storage and maybe room for a couple more converters so

[iron laurel]

Don't even say things like that....

[mortal mural]

im just kinda glad i dont need to be putting sell orders

that took me a bunch of time

this is WAAAAAAY easier and simpler

[tardy falcon]

Yah... burn is easy peasy

[iron laurel]

I have only been working on my MC and selling wasn't working from them any way.

[mortal mural]

i thought i liked the idea of putting sell orders and playing the whole economy, and i realized im an adult and dont have time for that most of the time. lol

[tardy falcon]

Now poor lil baby illuvium has to learn how to swim in the revenue river

[cedar raft]

Goals work in MegaCity?

[radiant sky]

I liked it... And didn't need to spend really a Lot of time for that, just a couple clicks more than you have now.

[tardy falcon]

benefit of selling is it was immediate

well if you listed at floor

[mortal mural]

i do like what illuvium is doing with the rest of the games. im eagerly waiting to play arena on mobile.

[tardy falcon]

mobile will be nice yah

[mortal mural]

i actually enjoy watching games guantlet games.

[radiant sky]

Ya, and playing the Market was for sure more interesting than just burn

[tardy falcon]

I hate cranking up the pc... gave the pc to my son anyway so I have to go take over his space to play now

[iron laurel]

I really wanted an economy game but as soon as they talked rails I realized it never would be any way. I really wanted to see a totally free market where we had Zero up and running a few months before launch so there was already a lot of fuel available and to watch the whole dynamic. I thought it would be fun.

[tardy falcon]

would have worked if 19:1 didn't exist

but alas

[mortal mural]

we will never know.

[tardy falcon]

true dat

[iron laurel]

We were only supposed to get 5% but we should have had to pay a 95% tax to sell on the Illuvidex.

[tardy falcon]

u can't deny 95% extra fuel per tx wasn't helpful tho XD

[tardy falcon]

yah zero be sole producers of fuel but DAO takes 95%

[iron laurel]

Of course not, that's why we should have had to pay ETH out of our fuel that we sold to the DAO instead of the DAO producing fuel out of thin air. It's like no one has watched the government producing out of thin air and seen what happens to the value.

Anyhow, irrelevant now.

[tardy falcon]

yep... pounds of flesh under the bridge

[iron laurel]

Just hope they keep our skins as something interesting.

[uneven pulsar]

Guys do you know about fuel crate ? team can create in any quantity and sell or send like prizes and holder as usual dont take anything?

[tardy falcon]

they already have my skin XD

[iron laurel]

True. But caveat is active landowners get 5% of all revenue

[tardy falcon]

no... fuel crates were a one time airdrop for landholders

[uneven pulsar]

ok thx

[tardy falcon]

Landholders are owed another but doubt they are going to give them any time soon

Fuel crates are a debt for the DAO

[radiant sky]

Isn't that Black and white

[tardy falcon]

tru dat

[iron laurel]

They can do it again any time they want to though.

They are also doing fuel drops as rewards

[tardy falcon]

But if I get $405 fuel crate from DAO and go use it to buy fuel... then I get fuel... but DAO get nada

Yah I saww fuel drop rewards

[radiant sky]

yes
lets assume i would have fuel crates worth 1k $ and spend it on the next beyond wave, cause i like the collection rewards.
That's fuel worth 1k i wouldn't have spent if i woulnd't own that crates.

[tardy falcon]

Btw yall... Torrex suggested making an iip to increase land LB rewards to. match the other games... we should yah?

[iron laurel]

Are free to play lands included in the rewards?

[tardy falcon]

dunno

[iron laurel]

Hmmm.....

[radiant sky]

@whole spear ?

[whole spear]

I wouldnt think so, but i dont know for sure, I'll find out

[glad relic]

where i can check this

[iron laurel]

This burn fuel button

[twin sequoia]

At the end, without 19:1 Zero wouldn´t probably exists, as it is the way to reward ILV holder, right?

[mortal mural]

Nah, zero is hella boring for that.

[tardy falcon]

Boring or not… is zero equal of a game? Or less than?

[mortal mural]

I know we feel left out. But, I don’t think that’s the right move.

[tardy falcon]

It’s really nominal tho… but would equalize everything

100 extra Ilv per week ain’t gonna break the bank… but would help make a statement that zero is just as important as the other games. And also show an olive branch by the team to the community.

Would also add more value to lands

[rotund forum]

Once you hit end game which most of us did like half a year ago it gets less exciting. Then you turn off the scanners, it gets a bit less exciting. But in a way it is the same for all city builders. Have you played civilization 7? It came out about a month ago. You hit endgame and the game just stops and a window pops up saying you lost (well that was my result but even if you win that’s just the same pop up and they kick you out 😅). So yes, zero is a real game for me, still collecting (for no particular reason) and hoping to one day sell some fuel again.

[deep bramble]

Bros, to create Blueprints, I see that you can also use morphopods to reduce cost. I've caught morphopods from OW. But how can I transfer them to IZ? so I can use them

[tawdry plank]

just go to zero point transducer in OW

[deep bramble]

Oh ok! It was that simple. Thanks bro!

[tawdry plank]

Fyi, cost reduction is fairly minimal. You need a lot of them.

[tardy falcon]

I enjoy tinkering with lands... I've redone them a few times now XD

[glacial garnet]

I just looked my xp before and after breaking plants and it didnt move. Are you sure its supposed to?

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-madness-300-pazzia-questaèpazzia-gif-18373678

[wide bobcat]

is there a reason for so many power stations? also is there a cap on path bonus? I am currently getting 20%,

[spring void]

Where can I sell my crate for $405?

[tardy falcon]

If you cram power stations you can add a few extra converters

[tardy falcon]

can just pass it over to me

[iron laurel]

I was wrong. I thought it gave us XP but you are right it doesn't. Sorry for the misinformation.

I am also sorry that I have been letting the plants take over my plots for rewards. Guess I need to start cutting them down.

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/did-i-say-that-rocky-chicken-run-dawn-of-the-nugget-i-don't-remember-saying-that-i-didn't-mean-to-say-that-gif-2208642938665537002

[grand silo]

if illuvium did the immutable gems I wonder if it will be applied to Zero also

[bold field]

Hello everyone, maybe someone knows or can tell us, we burn three types of fuel and DAO is already selling new fuel and the next question is how do they calculate the burned fuel 1:89? If we burned 100 thousand in total, what is the % of new fuel?

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[twin sequoia]

Hi, not exactily. The 89:1 conversion rate was done just once for the existing fuel in OW account and in Zero plots (over 1k of each type). Fuel you burn goes to a "pool" of burnt fuel, from where you have a share that is account wide, not per plot (shown in the burn history window). When the burning cycle ends, all revenue from fuel sold by DAO is split 19:1, 5% as always, and that 5% will be distributed to landholders in ETH according to your share. And in the future maybe will added the option to send Fuel to OW account instead of ETH.

[spiral turtle]

Just want to double check but in a MegaCity I can get rid o my Engineering Workshops and Quantum Fabricants that are redundant on other plots? IE I only need 1 of each?

[twin sequoia]

Not the fuel you burn, but your share of revenue in new Fuel.

[twin sequoia]

Yes for EW and QF, you only need 1 of each. Also for Nexus but before you delete the Nexus, be sure they are at lvl 9 so you have all structures available.

[pure fable]

we still need 4 nexus for the structure limit in a 2x2 right?
can't delete the Nexus

[glacial garnet]

You can get 405$ purchasing power in illuvium with it, like a gift card

It currently sells for about 50% value on the secondary market if you want to exit with the money

[radiant sky]

once you reached max level with your nexus to get the max structure limit, you can delete all but one.

Some T4 single plot landowners here, willing to share their daily fuel output?

[worthy rover]

I have a science t4, I get about 1620 a day. 3 extractors at 180% and 4 converters at 180%, rest are 150%

And that’s about every 20 hrs or so with the path bonus

[tranquil notch]

it will deflate the price again from the illuvials.. will there something like a burn for level to do something against it ?

[iron laurel]

So far fusing and skins are the only burning. Will they make something else to encourage us to burn more? I don't know.

[real salmon]

Are credits re-enabled now that we are showing actual game levels?

[dusk siren]

I think burning for xp was considered at some point

[radiant sky]

credits were never disabled

[indigo coral]

isn´t it 1700+- daily, depending if one clicks enough to gather converter 2-3x per day

9x150+ converter bonus

which is max 15 per every 8h minus paths

+about 10/converter passive per day

is this rewards stuff only about fuel?

or also elements

[radiant sky]

just curious what the average people really built.
with my calculation an average t4 with focus on fuel should definetly get more than 1700 daily

[indigo coral]

yeah if you skip scanner and element converter

but not much more

[radiant sky]

unknown yet

[indigo coral]

like 1900, maybe 2k max

[real salmon]

my credits have not increased since we were stuck at level 201?

[indigo coral]

and you need to log in 3x day then

[radiant sky]

yea, level above 201 don't grant credits

[indigo coral]

oh, we get higher levels, just saw I got 912

I like that

[real salmon]

ok, so my question again now that we have opened up levels again will credit begin again

[indigo coral]

Maybe they shouldn´t disclose how to farm score for that leaderboard, while scan/blueprint minting etc. could give score

if it is disclosed, you just min max for that

and it is easy solveable

[radiant sky]

levels up to 201 always granted credits and will moving forward.
Levels above 201 don't grant you any credits.

[twin sequoia]

I don´t see much sense to leaerboards for T1-T3, only for T4. And, if some day T5 are available they will always be in first positions.

[blazing ferry]

What's happening with blueprints right now? Are they being converted to something else, burned, what? They've gone from 84k+ to 15k and dropping

total supply that is

They nuking alpha blueprints?

[timber sapphire]

Werent they changing the armor blueprints?

[blazing ferry]

I know there were discussions, but haven't followed those lately. Is it happening today already?

[timber sapphire]

I'm not sure, haven't heard much on it lately too

[twin sequoia]

Where do you see that number?

End date for cycle 1 is at 23:59:59, right? Is it UTC?

[blazing ferry]

Through the API

maybe they're moving it to a new collection?

It's not a new collection, maybe they're just changing names slightly or something

[blazing ferry]

Looks like they're updating metadata

[keen maple]

Hello, i have a question about the Illuvium Zero Missions panel. The last time i received rewards for doing missions was in october 2024 (season 2), did it end there or is a season 3 coming?

[radiant sky]

unknown if they ever come back.

the new reward strategy you can check here:
https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-rewards-are-back-rangers

[mortal mural]

Today?

[spring void]

They should to some extent

[radiant sky]

I feel it's quite usual in citybuilders that you get some free coins in the early game to lure people into paying for those mid and late game.

[spring void]

I think land owners have taken it in the rear plenty already

Leaderboard is also just going to be top 50 tier 4 plots so that's lame af. Need to have rewards based on plot tier

Kinda like leagues

[twin sequoia]

tomorrow, the 2nd

[quiet hare]

How do I burn the fuel?

[undone cedar]

i feel 5% of total fuel selling revenue is very low. Don't understand why we don't have 50/50, so 50% for the team and 50% for land owners who burn fuel

[spring void]

I agree. Token is in the dump and revdis is the only real economic value now for ILV (which is funded by fuel and beyond disc sales) so if they allocate more to landowners token would sell off even more. I truly belive they had genuine intentions to give value back to landowners for the very high prices we paid during the mint but we ended up just being another source of free funding cuz it hurts the least amount of ppl when compared to taking value from token holders.

[rapid tartan]

19:1 basically is a rail imo

[rapid tartan]

ive made a few of those, always gets shit on pretty quick

[tawdry plank]

It's 5% for land owners and 95% to token holders. Not the team. That was the case from before the land sale. You bought your land knowing, that is the split. Changing it now does not make any sense.

[undone cedar]

but before i could use my fuel for my runs

[rapid tartan]

they changed literally every other single aspect of the games across the board, except the one major thing the people who were willing to spends 10s of thousands a year cared about, so youre right, but the cost of being right here is absolute and utter failure

[quiet hare]

is there a tutorial on youtube for all the recent Zero changes?

[near wadi]

check dm pls

[twin knot]

5% is a lot especially as long as there are only 20k plots available. ILV supply 7M+

[dusk siren]

looks like roughly 250K fuel has been sent to the burner so far

[twin knot]

that's nothing... would be super interesting to know how many plots contribute currently...

[tall crypt]

2 milion

[dusk siren]

oh yeah you're right, that's actually more than I expected

[tall crypt]

I burned 10000 and I have achieved 0,50%

[viscid bolt]

I agree, but at this point for me it is probably the difference between 1 penny or 10 cents if that. 🫤

[viscid bolt]

Did anyone figure out the exact time the burning would close for this first cycle. All it says is April 2, but what time UTC?

[long current]

where do you see info on the start and end of the cycles?

[midnight hearth]

I had over 20,000 fuel on my plots combined and I just signed in for the first time in a while and I have 1k of each fuel now!? Where did all my fuel go? I'm sure everyone knows what's going on already but I've been away from the game for a while

I was saving it all to sell it when fuel would actually be worth something, that was a ton of work to get that fuel!

[long current]

It converted to Unified Fuel, read this https://illuvium.io/news/fuel-migration-what-you-need-know

[rotund forum]

Quite curious for tomorrow how much the fuel burn income will be. But I’m thinking 1% might turn out to be 5$? Any ideas? It is only over a 7 day period and given the current economy it can’t be much.

[midnight hearth]

Thanks for the link! You think it would be better to let everyone burn their fuel this cycle, so next cycle you could have a bigger piece of the pie because their would be less fuel to sell, or is there some stockpile and that doesn't matter?

[twin sequoia]

You don´t know how much % are they burning, neither how much fuel will be sold each period.

Activity tab is again empty for me

[quick igloo]

Greetings all, is it normal for the percentage i had yesterday to drop?

[radiant sky]

Your percentage depends on how much fuel you Burn compared to all Landholders.
So, yes. It can wildly vary... I guess especially on the last Day of a cycle

[quick igloo]

ok I see, thanks for the feedback, its greatly appreciated!

[serene iris]

So I was super happy to notice when minting a blueprint it finally told me what I minted!

Its handy having a reminder as the timer takes a full week and I often forget what I started minting!

Buuut the next time I minted it didn't tell me what I minted? Not sure what's going on there. Not sure if it's a bug or a incomplete feature?

@whole spear @vivid cipher

[vivid cipher]

Using the in game feedback/report button would get this to the right people.

They’d also then have your account history to see where any issues actually occurred.

[serene iris]

Done

[vivid cipher]

Thanks. I’ve not got a good handle on what’s supposed to be in zero at the moment. Sorry.

[serene iris]

No worries, tagged you cause I saw your comments further up the chat and assumed you were the zero guy!

[vivid cipher]

Nah. I’m the team side moderator

[tardy falcon]

resisting levity

[stiff skiff]

What time does your period end today?

[tardy falcon]

😬

[twin sequoia]

Since patch it always said to I had minted something, but never what I minted. I though it just was a little advance but at the end it was a big bugged advance 😂 . I will report it too from my plots. But I never had problems with what I was minting 😉

[grand silo]

is it more efficient to collect convertor fuel before the full cycle is completed? im seeing comments saying collect 3 times.

[radiant sky]

That was about active conversions, Like convert solon into crypton

[long current]

where do you track this?

[radiant sky]

click the 3 bars at the very top left and then "burn fuel"

[long current]

Got it, thanks!

[flint compass]

When do we see the deposit from our burn contribution?

[radiant sky]

Should happen fairly soon after cycle ends

[flint compass]

What time does it end on the last day?

[radiant sky]

most likely roughly 00:00 UTC
but i don't know tbh.
@whole spear maybe knows

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-yay-proud-happy-excited-gif-17551463

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-help-help-me-send-help-elmo-gif-16557666

[lost walrus]

How much was weekly ILV for the burning?

[tardy falcon]

Burning is for a share of Illuvium revenue paid out in eth...
Idk how much revenue Illuvium made this week... maybe 5-7k?
so 5% of that split between the burners

ima get me a few bucks in eth I think

[lost walrus]

and of that 5% we got our burned part

[lost walrus]

will do go with numbers after the comma :p 0.075 in my case hahaha

[tardy falcon]

will seeee... curious how long payouts will take. Hopefullly they are automated XD

[quiet ocean]

Im waiting for the end of cycle to sell or continue....

[next juniper]

Was our fuel automatically burned or something when patch happened? I remember having over 40k fuel and most of all of that is gone now???

[tardy falcon]

It was transferred and converted to unified fuel at 89:1 ratio

Controversial moves… but you can request a refund. Details of refund yet to be made public.

For some reasons refund blog is delayed

[next juniper]

Ah ok. Thank You for the info 🙏

[novel lichen]

where can i find the total amount of fuel sold this week? so i can calculate my revenue of my burned fuel?

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[lyric lodge]

@whole spear how do I change my address for the g shock watches ? Ha e they been sent yet ?

[whole spear]

No

there will be a claim page

where you enter shipping info

[near wadi]

Hi bro, if you're not busy, please write me a DM.

[molten cave]

Bro, what a bad feelling look this

I burned fuel with my land, it will come directly to my wallet the cents from fuel?

[tall crypt]

MUST WAIT.I've projected fuel sales to reach $10,000. Illuvium will pocket $9,500, and the landowners $500. Of that $500, I'm entitled to 0.5%, or $2.50, for work on 3x Tier 4 and 5xTier 3. Well, a little more because I've kept reserve fuel on the land.

[tall crypt]

Anyone used blueprints? Is truely useful?

[twin sequoia]

Hexasuit is T0, right? Which are the other 2?

[twin knot]

$1M is the target Sir just be patient

[iron laurel]

This is the easiest way to look. Go to the Illuvidex and then this page has all the suits listed.

Exo is T0

[harsh dew]

Purchase of Fuel, not all the data are there yet missing 2 souces.
We can see an increase in Fuel demand landowner it's good!

[serene iris]

When does the weekly fuel burn reset?

[viscid bolt]

What are you going to do with your haul?

[viscid bolt]

UTC midnight, so about 53 more minutes (according to @thin wolf)

[mortal mural]

Every time
I look at this and think is automated. I feel “shiiiinyyyyy” hahahaha good job on this

[harsh dew]

Hooo it's automated on my machine 😄

[mortal mural]

I wanna do one for my job. But I need some people to stop making mistakes lol

[harsh dew]

Pay me and bring me the database, I will do it for you

[serene iris]

Cool.. makes sense

[solid cove]

True

[solid cove]

in ideal conditions: landmark crypton has at least 5 crypton mines and 12 convectors, which is +-2000 per day

[radiant sky]

Thats what you have?

Changes in average for mines are more Like 3/3/3, right? So 3 landmark-fitting mines

[solid cove]

I don't understand the question

[radiant sky]

Some better and some worse....

[radiant sky]

Was asking if you built that t4 🙂

[solid cove]

Yes, I have it.

[solid cove]

I hope IZ will work on android in this decade, it would be nice. The app doesn't even start))

[mortal mural]

You don’t wanna see the data base

https://tenor.com/view/burning-office-spongebob-on-fire-gif-13729593

[harsh dew]

Lol most of the database from compagny are like that. Until they know the real power of data

[twin sequoia]

I´ve been playing it on a samsung a41 and a lenovo M10 with no major issues. The only one is that, sometimes (specially on the phone), it closes when changing plots (I have 12+free tier) or right after loading the 4th or 5th. But not always.

[twin sequoia]

Very good timing for that. You always need to take advantge of 20% path bonus which is quite hard on extractors.

[solid cove]

and it's true, I only managed to achieve 19% no matter how hard I tried, but 1% is not so important to me)

[solid cove]

So it's about me😁

[viscid bolt]

So, when do we get paid for burned fuel for cycle 1?

[twin sequoia]

We still don´t know

[viscid bolt]

We're paid on passport?

[solid cove]

The difference between 20% and 19% is 15 minutes.

[twin sequoia]

If no money from credit cards (hard to believe), $1.04 is my first pay (😄 , 🙁 or 😭 )

[radiant sky]

[twin sequoia]

I was almost to do that haha

[harsh dew]

100% gj!

[radiant sky]

haha... first! 😛

[twin sequoia]

good share for me

[serene iris]

So where can we check what we earned in these weekly cycles? I can only see the percentage

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/the-chosen-jesus-leper-not-too-shabby-jesus-joking-gif-22243166

[twin sequoia]

same as all of us

[radiant sky]

hasn't been paid out yet.
More info should come soon.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/money-rain-slap-gif-3377648479874141632

[viscid bolt]

Ah yes, the ancient Illuvian prophecy: ".... shall arrive... soon™.

[radiant sky]

i'm sorry for the inconvenience

[viscid bolt]

It looks like 3,126,190 fuel were burned in cycle 1. About 156 per land. I wonder what the income was.

[versed warren]

so i have to burn my fuel, on my land? explain?

[prisma trout]

I don't have enough to burn...lol
There really aren't rewards on T1😥

[grand silo]

whats really shit for the handful of us that were locked out of our plots for weeks is all that building/resource collecting has totally put us behind for the rewards coming out soon. Never missed a beat prior and feels totally unfair.

[tulip fox]

@radiant sky is this something else than play tom aordrop season 3? As there is no mention of Illuvium Zero?

#📣〕announcements message

[rose thicket]

its the “fair start” and 2 year break even standard so intentionally created by Labs

Look at the bright side, you could have invested in the core of the imagination chasing perfect illuvials only to find out today they have more than double the attributes that were visible. the promises made, promises never kept are getting pretty deep and wide

[radiant sky]

There's gona be a leaderboard soon, but they are still working on it.

[grand silo]

leaderboard will make it more fun

[tulip fox]

So is this Season 3 or not?

If yes why no rewards for Illuvium zero?

[small sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/rdj-robert-downey-jr-hehe-can't-wait-non-vedo-l'ora-gif-7612716849186797618

[orchid cosmos]

Hi guys

the new upgrade means:

old: move fuel to dex, and sell fuel
new: burn fuel inside the game, receive 5% back

is my understanding for landholder correct here?

🤔

[tardy falcon]

5% of all of Illuvium revenue split between land plots per ratio of burned fuel

[orchid cosmos]

thank you

i see

[lyric lodge]

@radiant sky I don't get... announcement says rewards across all canes are live except zero not included ?

[lyric lodge]

When is this paid and how is it paid ?

[lyric lodge]

Exactly my question....it says live across all games @whole spear ?

[lyric lodge]

Let's face it..... not even one promises made was kept....they messed up in every area. Every single aspect and it's all completely, they had no idea what they were doing and failed in every way

[tardy falcon]

Don’t know yet… as with most things illuvium, communication isn’t the best

[lyric lodge]

Thanks a rewards across ALL games except zero ?

[tardy falcon]

Rewards for zero will be 100/wk and start in may sometime

[whole spear]

Zero is coming

it says in blog will be live in a few weeks

[lyric lodge]

Ok fab and how do I change my address for the g shock watch ? Open a ticket ? Thanks

[whole spear]

No need to change address as the claim page hasnt gone live yet

[lyric lodge]

Cheers mate

[lyric lodge]

Can you also provide any info on payment to land owners for the 5 percent

Is this happening soon

[tulip fox]

So the Reward is only for top 50 players???

What about Season 3 rewards for Illuvium Zero?

[whole spear]

Don't have a date yet, but they are already looking into getting it sorted

[tulip fox]

Is the current announcement Season 3?

[whole spear]

There is no season 3

this the new rewards system

at least this isnt called season 3

[tulip fox]

New reward system with reverds only for 50 people?

[whole spear]

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-rewards-are-back-rangers

Check out the blog

lots of other people getting rewards as well

incuding beyond still

[tulip fox]

I'm asking about Illuvium Zero rewards

If the rewards are only for 50 people, I guess there is really no point so far to play at all.

[whole spear]

Still burning fuel for the share of the 5%

[tulip fox]

That sounds like a joke to me.

[whole spear]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002

[tulip fox]

I'm here from the start. I minted lands. But I guess I will be exiting fully when you excluded majority of people from rewards system.

Yea reward just 50 people. Good luck with attracting new players lol

The economy of this game are total disaster. And now you fucked up the rewards as well. No reason to stay or play...

[rapid tartan]

I've tried to explain about the 5% being a pure psychological loss, they dont understand. Their other option is to say 95% tax, which also, is an optics nightmare. It pointless to argue it.

[tulip fox]

It was just a wast of time to follow thit project and play it...

[rapid tartan]

Eventually, when zero takes its last few breaths, they will give in and increase the revenue share, but it will be too late by then because nobody will care anymore.

[tulip fox]

Yea people will be alrady gone like me

Economic of all the games are set up so bad.

No wonder it is dying. But I guess they never learn...

DAO can enjoy 95% revenue on a dead game lol

[rapid tartan]

It's not that they don't learn, they just learn too slow.

yeah thats what they're going to continue doing for awhile I assume

[tulip fox]

How did they learn? They decided to reward only 50 people from all the players.

That is a huge step back

[rapid tartan]

yeah I just meant with other parts of their games

but I agree the main thing they should have learned was how valuable land holders were

[tulip fox]

Especially after they sold those land so expensive...

It was pure extraction of money from the community.

[rapid tartan]

technically the prices were chosen by the people, since it was a dutch auction, but yeah people paid a premium because they said land would be playable 2 weeks after auction and that we would be able to stockpile fuel while overworld was being built

they also started the dutch auction at very very greedy prices, they did a great job creating the illusion of value/urgency for their land

[twin knot]

5% is a very good deal for landowners. At current prices you better buy land than ILV...

[tulip fox]

wanna buy my land? 😄

[rapid tartan]

not great choices right now

[twin knot]

I've been buying lately yes

Just do the math there are only 20k lands

[rapid tartan]

there's 100k lands total, they still have 80k to sell

[twin knot]

You get more revdis with land for the same $ invested

[rapid tartan]

im guessing you didnt realize they still had 80k lands to sell?

[twin knot]

That is clearly not happening tomorrow. You'll already be super rich once it happens don't worry... unless you sell your assets before of course

[blazing ferry]

Land will need to be very profitable before anyone lets those release

[rapid tartan]

yeah....i didnt say anything about a timeline, just making sure he knew there was 80k more to go when he says he is accumulating because "there's only 20k, do the math"

[stiff skiff]

Do you know how many eth are 5%?

[tulip fox]

I burned my Fuel. When I will get $ and where?

@whole spear

[stiff skiff]

How much will you receive? Do you know what 5% of revenue is?

[nocturne trail]

How much of revenue is diverted to landholders?

[stiff skiff]

Good question.

[nocturne trail]

@stiff skiff

[torpid relic]

Currently have a single Tier 1 land. Contemplating springing for a Tier 3 maybe. Is the cost worth it? $450-550 seems to be the rate

Also, have my T1 to level 5 on almost everything. Is there a strategy guide for it? I don't really have plans and need guidance

[stiff skiff]

Thank you

[native gyro]

I am trying to figure out the mega city requirements. Is that still an option?

Have they put out the statistics with land owners? How many out of the 20k plots being played?

[twin knot]

I believe we don't know that yet no

What we can say is that 3,125,000 fuel has been burnt in this first cycle

[mossy sorrel]

each cycle is a week and resets on thursdays at 0000UTC?

[tulip fox]

I’m almost sure it will be pennies.

[stiff skiff]

Illuvium is a long-term investment. You have to be patient. The game is the best

[tulip fox]

@radiant sky how and when do I claim my rewards for burned Fuel?

[twin knot]

It will be distributed to you in ETH

No need to claim

[tulip fox]

when and on what wallet?

[twin knot]

I'm not in the team I just read the article which says: "Your ETH is distributed automatically at the end of each cycle."

[stable minnow]

Have they done a post on claiming burned fuel from the conversion to unified fuel yet? I saw something about contacting support, but it was "coming soon" - any update yet? Thanks

[tulip fox]

Is there info when Cycle ends?

[twin knot]

Yes that's in-game in the burn fuel section

[tulip fox]

thanks

[timber sapphire]

I didn't think 30-80 years tho

[hazy jewel]

Hi , any number available on how much fuel has been purchased ?

[hazy jewel]

How can you get this number ?

[twin knot]

Well I know my personal contribution to it so it's quick math

[hazy jewel]

Sorry you're right, i tought for a while that 3M was the amount of fuel used. So we don't know the amount of fuel that has been spent this cycle right ?

[twin knot]

What do you mean by "spent"? We know how much fuel has been burnt from IZ players

[grand silo]

no they wont, there will never be an increased share to land owners. Why would token holders vote for less and give to land owners? Fact is land owners have been double fkd.

[twin knot]

5% is a very good share already

[grand silo]

no its not, not compared the token.

[dusk siren]

At 0$ revenue we can both yell at the same people

[twin knot]

At current prices you get more revdis with land for the same $ invested

[grand silo]

right

[hazy jewel]

The revenue we got is 5% of the total fuel purchase divided for the contribution of each owner. Knowing how many fueal has been used for overworld travels gives as a measure of what it might be the fuel purchase ( of course is a very unreliable number since there was a good amount of fuel that was converted )

[fathom thunder]

All my fuel dissapeared, over 60k of each, thanks illuvium !

months of farming gone into the abyss

[twin knot]

Here is a very speculative calculation with easy round numbers which you can adjust at will:
Assumption 1: we sell for 1M$ fuel in the cycle, that is 950k for ILV holders and 50k for land holders
Assumption 2: there are 7M ILV staked
Assumption 3: I produce 0,005% of the total fuel production for the cycle (1/20k).
Result 1: I earn 2,5$ of revdis with the fuel I burn
Result 2: you need 18,5 ILV to earn the same amount of revdis.

18,5 ILV is currently 220$
With a T1 at 54$ you generate currently much more than 0.005% of the total fuel production (22 fuel per day over the last cycle).

Now in the long run a T1 will maybe not be able to produce 0.005% of fuel. But with a T2 it's guaranteed. Currently for 220$ I can buy 2 T2 plots...

Play around with the parameters

Adjust to the scenario that seems realistic to you in the future...

[fathom thunder]

100% of fuel should be produced and sold by landowners, period. Token holders should have another way to monetise the game. This 5% thing is totally beyond ridiculous.

[twin knot]

You mean getting rid of ILV to have land plots for everyone instead that has been discussed in the past

[fathom burrow]

how to make my blueprints show in game, all are in my linked wallet as I checked now..

and none show, so I could mint any skins

[rose thicket]

now that is an innovative idea that would solve a lot of ills and align incentives quickly.

[gentle portal]

hi guys how can i convert my cryptons?

i dont get this game anymore

[harsh dew]

Last update of the purchases of Fuel $4 578+ $500.73 (Advanced Payment) = $5 078.73
Note that thsi report is partial.
It's missing data from Stripe

[gentle portal]

i have a lot of lands will i burn fuel?

im trying to find a guide what to do with my cryptons hyperions and solons

[spice vector]

Yup you burn fuel and then you'll see your %-age share of revdis for that cycle

[bleak grove]

Thanks , friend! Good to see the numbers broken down.

[bleak grove]

@twin knot If you don't mind sharing, what are the numbers that gives you the ability to see the amount of fuel that a T1, T2 or T3 can produce compared to the total potential fuel production?

[twin knot]

Up to you but you could for example assume T2=3xT1; T3=9xT1; T4=27xT1. Considering the total supply per Tier you end up with a ratio of 1.39 T1 to produce 0.005% of the total fuel production...

[vocal pasture]

When or how do we see our part of revdis as landowners?

[last tiger]

Good question but at this rate I have 4 T2 and two of them full max out and I'm 0.2% I can't wait to get my 1 cent if I'm lucky

Even with the 4 lands max out would be like 0.5% +-

[vocal pasture]

Mmm I have a single T4 and it put me on 0.3% something.

So 1,5 cents for me

Lol

[last tiger]

Really? A tier 4? Only that?

[vocal pasture]

And a t2 for scanning that don’t burn anything

Mmm maybe burnt a bit, but not much

[vocal pasture]

Was pretty well maxed…. :/

[last tiger]

Even if this game brings more players 0.3 for a T4 it's crazy

[vocal pasture]

A bit more, don’t remember…maybe close to 0.4%

But that was it

[last tiger]

For the amount of eth you guys paid as premium lands at the auction

[vocal pasture]

Thank god I bought later lol

Even so, got shafted. Payed like 2,7 eth or something g

[last tiger]

I was thinking that T4s was absorbing all %

[vocal pasture]

By my calculations, my roi will be around 2674 dc. Right about when captain picard of Star Trek arrives on earth.

[last tiger]

Yep I feel you I've paid 1.1 eth for T2

Long ago

[last tiger]

Hum not bad he should be thinking to upload our conciseness to a robot to enjoy the profits

[vocal pasture]

:p

Got to be patient…sigh

[last tiger]

Never mind it keeps dropping and I wonder why some guy should have like 50% of all lands

[vocal pasture]

It adjusts yes. It’s natural. Some haven’t t burned anything yet in this cycle

[last tiger]

I give up

To many years wasted

Time and money

I should put all that money into gold bars at that time

[flint compass]

Any easy way to see what we earned from this past burn cycle?

[vocal pasture]

True. But it’s part of the game. Last years turned me into a moderate BTC maxi lol

[vocal pasture]

Would like to know too

[radiant sky]

Unfortunately no

[flint compass]

Bummer

[vocal pasture]

Trust, don’t verify

[flint compass]

I hope an easier way list items for sale is coming. I'd like to be able to select a given item to sell and just hit list at floor price. Maybe some options to move this up and down by 1% from that price.

[sudden zinc]

gm, Rewards for Missions also for Zero?

[radiant sky]

no

Below you see all the rewards that are and that are coming soon:

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-rewards-are-back-rangers

[sudden zinc]

oh dear!! ZERO is really tretead very badly!! 🫣

[vocal pasture]

no rewards for zero for the time being eh?

uh and just 100ilv 😛 meh...

[gentle portal]

yes zero they say is the worst investment. and they got fuck up 😦

i think one of the main reason i ask everyone from my friends in ilv is that they left ilv because zero was treated poorly. hard to get them back again . its sad

[vocal pasture]

the worst and the more expensive....huge land sale, bla bla bla to the moon and....thats all folks

[lyric hamlet]

You think we will ever get out money back? I want what i payed for in the Dutch auction

[raw fjord]

yo where do we see what we got from fuel burn last week ?

[lyric hamlet]

Where can we start a vote to get refunds

3 years I been holding this bag

[raw fjord]

cant get refund bro, sell it or hold it

[lyric hamlet]

Sure we can

Why not

[raw fjord]

where do we see what we earned burning fuel last week ?

is there anywhere to check that atm or

[lyric hamlet]

We were sold a different product that what we have today

[long current]

Maybe if instead of 5% from burnt fuel we raise it to something 20% revenue share? I have only one T3 land, but feel bad about those who aped in hard on lands

[blissful storm]

Unfortunately, that’s very common in crypto so better get out when things are not going well

[raw fjord]

wont fix underlying issue that market is shit and we need more people playing

how do we check what we earned burning? anyone ?

[lyric hamlet]

I don't care about what's common

The issue still remained

Those who bought with timelines and potentials back in 2022 are owed!

[long current]

I agree, but down the line when market turns. P.S. I don't think they made it possible to track eth earned per fuel burned yet

[raw fjord]

so when do we get what we burned?

[cold owl]

I want to know this too, as do a lot of people

[raw fjord]

wierd to put a mechanic ingame and not have simple most important data for it

[cold owl]

I know about immutascan.io, but is there a way to see raw ledger transactions of ILV on your passport wallet?

do we even know if we got/when we get the weekly fuel burn revshare payouts?

[raw fjord]

ive no clue >< dont need to get the share every week

but some data on how much is estimated at this current pool x my % would be nice

gives also some strategy, maybe i want to leave my fuel for next week

or burn it all now

[rose thicket]

yes, there are 2nd and 3rd order effects to this change. Labs ultimately is going to have to become completely transparent in the financials (revenue at minimum) or BURN TRUST of this community. EOM

[radiant sky]

it hasn't been distributed yet.
unfortunately you can't see how much you will get.

[timber sapphire]

So how do we know landowners actually are getting the 5%?

[lyric hamlet]

Sent

[radiant sky]

as far as i'm aware, we don't

[timber sapphire]

They never mentioned 1 year roi

[cold owl]

Yea I'm frustrated too but I accept the reality that the risk is on the investor, i.e. me/us

[tardy falcon]

Someone mentioned 2 year roi on land

[timber sapphire]

From team?

[cold owl]

any ROI projections are speculative

[iron laurel]

We can't ask the token stakers who believed they would get 95% to just give up 15% to land owners becuase things went badly in Zero.

[timber sapphire]

Well technically we can but it won't work because there are more token holders than landholders

[tardy falcon]

Things didn’t go badly in zero… they went badly in illuvium… in the economic model… in the ow that was launched… in many things

[iron laurel]

OK, how about we shouldn't because that wouldn't be fair either. We are all in the same boat of hoping things improve.

[timber sapphire]

I'm not saying we should, just that it's technically possible

[iron laurel]

And in the overall market, the economy and world in general.

[tardy falcon]

Yep

[iron laurel]

Yup, I definitely worded it wrong.

[raw fjord]

any plans on showing some estimate for current week ? :/

[radiant sky]

not that i'm aware of

[near wadi]

My respects to all.

Yes, landlords are a hot topic, I agree with almost everyone, friends. I am one of you. How wonderful everything was in the roadmap at the very beginning, on paper. But honestly, I am not ready to give up, I am in love with this idea, with this game. I believe in our community, I believe that the team will eventually find a balance and implement what they want, with our help.

I really liked the recent comment here in the thread, the person sincerely expects an economic component from this game. He imagines himself playing with a child, thus the child learns the basics of economics. Just bravo. I remembered Kieran words that this game is for life. Yes, @noble quest , you made us believe, and we believe!

The only thing that, in my opinion, the project team lacks is feedback for the community. Many points that seem mandatory and simple for experienced gamers, the team did not take into account at the beginning of their journey. Openness of processes is very important, but here too it is clear that conclusions are gradually being made and everyone is learning.

What can I say, patience and respect to everyone.

This is the way!

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[rose thicket]

@near wadi good message and encouragement. The reality is the Team has received passionate common sense input from the community. Look the current feedback-ideas threads over the last six months. Many of the most in depth and breadth of feedback has been given for Zero and how it impacts Landholders. However, this is a reality on failure to perform on a few material issues: Non-fungible Fuel = Violation of Terms of Sale, IlluviDEX (aka IMX NFT Store = Deceit (no DEX ever created), Fuel 19:1 Exchange = Disaster, 75% Production Reduction = Compounding Disaster, Beyond & Misc RevDis = Failure to Perform, EP-1 = Unprecedented Governance with 89:1 conversion nonsense the permanently impairs the value of ILZ NFTS (Theft)

Maybe the biggest failure is serving as the custodian of the DAO's Treasury and allocating the majority to ETH (100+ VOL asset) while for four consecutive years, it weakened in relative strength to BTC and USDC. This is downright negligence. What financial intermediary on the planet would find this suitable to hold the entire community's treasury in such an asset with no financial reporting on it outside of 'its on-chain," and the bush league "burn report" will come out every 30-110 days, depending on when we get around to it.

[small sundial]

One thing is certain, the subject is much more complex than we might think.

[rose thicket]

At what point from Sept '22 onward might it have been smart to reallocate a portion of the treasury? Every freaking day is the answer.

[dark adder]

Cycle 1 Received anybody ?

[mortal spruce]

No

[twin sequoia]

It depends on how much you are willing to spend in the game and, under my point of view, if you like "playing" Zero. If you see it as a way of making money (fast) ... well ... you see what happened since auction 😂 . If you like playing it, it can also be viewed as any other online game where you have to pay a monthly subscription, but with just a first big pay. If you later get profit, even better. This is how I see Zero. I have recently bought T1 and T2 that had 0 buildings on it, very bad investement for who bought them.

There is no strategy guide, just practice with the free plot also and read this channel, although lately there is no much discussion about that, as the game is qutie simple for that

[twin sequoia]

Good news, this is $0.49 more for me since your first report 😉. Will I reach $3 with stripe orders?
What strange valley, it is not the weekend or work days.

[twin sequoia]

Are you taking into account the tier of the plot? If not, only T4 will be in that leaderboard 😦

At least a ray of hope

[torpid relic]

Yeah, I'm enjoying playing the T1 I have but can't help but feel it'd be more interesting if I had more resource and fuel spots.

What looks like a $50 floor for T1 sucks from what I paid, for sure. (I bought on the market a couple days after the Dutch auction) Part of me hopes they add and develop more for the Zero side of things in the future, but after clicking around the Discord for a bit, it seems they have quite a few fires to put out with general game bugs, token depreciation, economics across all games, and whatever else. Honestly, if there was a T3 or T4 for around $200-300 I'd probably ape

As for strategies, I'm mostly confused on paths. No idea how they should be set up

[twin sequoia]

You will never buy a T4 so cheap, bots are too fast 😭 and they got relatively expensive last week, at the rates of several months back. So I exepct the rest of tiers increase in price also, at different paces. And I hope T3 are not so cheap again, my cheapest one was 0.21 ETH. T2 is way more interesting as you are barely limited by resources, quite well balanced for 2/3 workers. For a T3/4 you can go with 3 of course, and 4 if you could. But I think it is better to have just the workers for you play type. For my last T3s I just use one worker, so are quite relaxed. They already were at lvl 7/8, so there was no hurry to update fuel extractors to lvl 6 (this is the only real hurry). And you don´t loose much money, so better play as you wish.

For my first T1 and T2 I was playing to max fuel production ASAP, but it doesn´t pay, you don´t enjoy it. Well, if you go the science way, more workers is a good idea, as it is quite long to reach lvl 5 on scanners and labs

[torpid relic]

See more developed lands selling for more? I'd actually prefer a clean slate. Could always clear the plot if necessary.

[twin sequoia]

The number of building connected to a single path defines the path bonus. 1% by default and then add 1% for each 10 buildings connected to that path, with a limit of 20%. So, max is for 191 buildings connected to the same path. On the last patch there was a bug and some plots (not all) peak at 19%.

So you can have buildings with different path bonus if connected to paths with different numbers of building connected to them.

[torpid relic]

Yeah, I'm not expecting crazy money/income from this. I just enjoy the build and the strategy of getting things going. Some money flow would be nice and that is part of why I bought initially. But not going to hols my breath lol

[twin sequoia]

Thats the attitude 👍

[torpid relic]

And do the path bonuses apply to the production time? As if it will shorten the time to get resources, convert, and all that or just building/upgrade times?

[lament jetty]

Where can you cliam the share of the fuel burn?

[radiant sky]

all of them

[twin sequoia]

there is no need to claim that share, it will be done automatically but we still don´t have more info. The claimable fuel is for that bough or migrated prior to the fuel unification

[radiant sky]

it should be paid out automatically, but unfortunately hasn't happend so far.
There should be info soon on that topic.

[lament jetty]

ty

[lament jetty]

ty

[twin sequoia]

yeah, the minimum path bonus to reach is 16%, more is plus but not so important

[torpid relic]

Ah got it. So any tips on balancing path bonus with power station placement? I just spread everything out last night to try and improve their efficiencies, but it sounds like the path bonus would want every thing closer

[twin sequoia]

@radiant sky I let you enjoy disconvering why 16% is the minimum (of course the more, the better. But usually is not important)

[twin sequoia]

When you upgrade the nexus, the first thing is to build as many lvl1 power plants as you can, as they are fast and cheap and let you enjoy almost instantly the path bonus increase for all, including building and upgrading faster the rest of buildings, that take a longer time

[radiant sky]

if it comes to fuel/element production you, want to somewhat squeeze everything tightly together so powerstations have a good effect on your production.

and then connect all buildings with a big path-snake to get a high path-bonus

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-know-idk-dunno-no-idea-no-clue-gif-22858277

[torpid relic]

That makes sense and I just started doing that. I have 0 science and research stuff built yet. Need to get my production high enough to actually afford them 😆

[torpid relic]

Ahh. Makes sense. I'm trying to get my production up so I can get all the buildings going. So I'll try to Snake them up

[twin sequoia]

First is bonus path, then storage needed to upgrade QF, QF and then fuel extractors. And then Nexus and start again

[torpid relic]

As I go to rearrange everything, I wish they had a mode where you can move everything at once instead of move this then select the next building and move that

[long current]

It's paid out to our passport wallets?

[radiant sky]

i assume so, yes

[twin sequoia]

all extractors and science buildings (ZPT excluded) have a max lvl time of 24h, so with 20% path bonus are done in 19h 12m. So each day you have to collect 5h sooner than the day before. If you, as most people, like to sleep more than 5 hours straight, at the end will be collecting just once a day. Some days you will collect at midnight and have that bonus for 4-5 more days (I sometimes do on weekends). So bonus doesn´t usually mind much, with 16% it is 20h 9m so you will probably get the same collection numbers.
But 16% is not a ramdom number, it is very important on converters (I started with T1, and converters are 2/3 of fuel production, 1/3 for T2 and not so important for T3 and 4). A full cycle last 6 days. With 16% bonus, you get it to 5 days, so no need to connect to strange hours, always at the same time. And on my experience, there is a bug because it really is like 4d and 20h, so you can go with a lower bonus or have some spare hours.
Lol, wasn´t intended to be so long.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-sleep-when-you-die-jonny-cota-making-the-cut-get-to-work-all-nighter-gif-16988026

[twin sequoia]

life is overrated

Well, on monday I slept 4h, on tuesday almost 5 and on wenesday I achieved almost 6. This week was not my best example haha

But was not because of IZ 😂

[torpid relic]

Dang. You really put some thought into this

Got my path bonus up to 5%

[twin sequoia]

There are lot of ways of getting fun

[jolly shuttle]

Has anyone invented this yet: an application where you tell it where your fuel sites are and extractors and what landmark you have on your plot and this application will tell you what to build and where to put it to maximize on fuel versus blueprint or both

[solar topaz]

soo... I burned fuel, the cycle is over. did I get anything? Is there a report about what happened? The final tally?

ah. Just found the history tab. But where is the output?

[tall crypt]

Illuvium is ruined by its CEO's self-importance. Financially, all three games are failures. I think illuvium should create a fourth independent game using the virtual reality headset, which is the new thing. Everything else is more of the same.

[twin sequoia]

So you say all 3 games are a fiasco having millions to develop them and now, with no so much money in the pocket, they should go with a different game? I don´t see it a wise decision.

[sharp jolt]

Don’t they already have more games planned like the kart racing one

[radiant sky]

mmo lite is the only additional thing being worked on

[lyric lodge]

Is it still worth swapping fuel Cates ?

[nova epoch]

Ah is that how it works? You burn fuel and just get a percentage of what’s being bought? Is that going to be on a daily basis?

[twin sequoia]

weekly

[hearty cradle]

Coffeezilla?

[grand silo]

new illuvidex looks sic

[noble quest]

Allocating the majority to ETH? What are you talking about? Have you actually looked at what is held in ETH or any alt coin for that matter? Barely anything

[rose thicket]

someone sent me the treasury wallet so now I can review it; I was told it was backed by ETH or misinterpreted that for the Sushi pool. Thanks for clarifying this point, and it's a relief to see it's mostly stables. What is up with the ILV sent to 3 different wallets, swapped to USDC, then merged into one wallet and sent to a CEX? Presume its how your comping the team now.

[rose thicket]

Have you and Danny shared your original vesting wallets like Aaron did?

[noble quest]

You just went off what someone told you? I'm starting to think you arent a very good accountant at all...

[noble quest]

Yes.. even shared my new wallet when I moved half, restaked it all etc

[rose thicket]

great, where is that posted?

[twilit aurora]

Excuse me, how many levels can I go up to in total?

[twin sequoia]

It is up to you

[native lichen]

Can anyone please explain the purpose of burning fuel is?

How are we meant to send our fuel into illuvidex so we can either do OW or ADR runs?
I see the burn function on my phone that makes sense that thats what it's for otherwise there seems to be no other way of extracting my fuel into illuvidex?

@radiant sky

[lyric lodge]

Are fule crates still worth buying to exchange for credits ?

[radiant sky]

You can't transfer fuel from Zero into overworld anymore.

[lyric lodge]

Are fuel crates still with buying to exchange for credits

[radiant sky]

Fuel crates grant you fuel for the value of the $ thats dritten on when you redeem it

[native lichen]

So the fuel we now have is not able to be used for OW runs or ARD runs at all?

[radiant sky]

If it is in Zero, yes

[native lichen]

If fuel isn't used for anything else in the ecosystem, how do they know what the value of a fuel unit is to determine the eth payout?

[lyric lodge]

Yes but you could get more credits for now buying old fuel and swapping to new credits...is that still uthe car

[radiant sky]

Fuel ist used everywhere in the ecosystem

[radiant sky]

You can't buy old fuel

Don't understand 2nd sentence

[native lichen]

I get that, but where do they get the value of a fuel unit to determine its value for eth payout?

[radiant sky]

I don't really understand the question. 😄
You Burn fuel and you get a share of the ETH revenue.

There is no determining fuel price anymore. Fuel ist Sold by ilv AT a fixed price of 1cent/fuel

[spiral turtle]

Eth we get for burning fuel goes into our imx wallet? Passport?

[open stratus]

Prob airdropped on the brim of your cap

[sleek rose]

Where do we see the cycle and the fuel burned within the cycle?

EDIT: Never mind. Found it.

[limpid quest]

Heyo Zero players

Question from community:

“Hey, how many times i can mint a blueprint? Or it should be deleted after minting?”

[solar topaz]

at the moment you can use it more than once.

[solar topaz]

this has the implication that I have a chance to complete the collection as a certain blueprint will not show up twice
Had blueprints a fixed number of runs before they disappear, I would expect them to show up multiple times (also if I already have them). Then I would want to be able to trade them. And this would work better if there were much less different blueprints (my opinion). So if you streamline it to be just 1 armor blueprint and 1 drone blueprint per illuvial, then maybe tradeable + limited/single run might be a thing.
(also long-term stable since you can no longer have researched "everything")

[pure fable]

when do we get the ETH for the last fuel cycle?

[timber sapphire]

Doesn't it get burned when you use it?

[solar topaz]

I had the same question and tried it. I'm quite certain it stays.

otherwise it wouldn't make sense that I cannot get duplicates

[twin sequoia]

Both Biodata and Bluprints are permanent. Biodata can be deleted but I didn´t find a way to delete bluprints. Minted bluprints are only one use, but they can be traded as NFT.

[timber sapphire]

You should be able to get duplicates tho

[timber sapphire]

Yeah one time use, I wasn't crazy haha

[dark adder]

they told us end of cycle but now we are cycle 2 and still waiting....

[twin sequoia]

It depends. Minted blueprint (the NFT) are one-use but researched blueprint are permanent

[timber sapphire]

Yeah but you can still get duplicates of those

[dusty isle]

Anyone received the fuel share revenue from burn?

[radiant sky]

Has not been distributed yet, afaik

[dark adder]

Nothing... i Hate Waiting...

No Money No Funny

[ancient panther]

When is the first distro of Fuel Revenue?

[dark adder]

Key Takeaways:

Your Fuel Burn % relative to all landholders determines your ETH payout.

Your ETH is distributed automatically at the end of each cycle.

but now 2 days is finish and Still Waiting....

[tardy falcon]

@spice vector any info on weekly zero payouts? Will they be auto dropped? Claimed? And wen?

[spice vector]

All rewards are in the process of being automated. We needed to do a bit of adjusting on how things worked with it all (so this includes, arena & beyond as well, plus anything we do in the future). Until that’s ready it’s manually distributed

Obviously getting refunds sorted as well 🙂

[silver stirrup]

so like 15 mins away?

Nope mine still hasnt come through must be longer

[mortal spruce]

Me too

[worthy rover]

I was also wondering if the feature to delete blueprints to free up data space could be introduced, once data storage limit is reached

[harsh dew]

New update:
Fuel Purchases, excluding Stripe, advanced payments $809.09, and autoDrone runs.

• Added new data about Active players = players who are purchasing fuel for the second time.

6 239+ 809.09, = $7 048.09

[subtle frost]

what is that?

[dark adder]

is it sales fuel for Cycle 1 ?

[dark adder]

I would like to express my concerns regarding the changes to the Illuvium ecosystem, particularly the way fuel sales are now handled. Initially, the plan was for landowners to produce fuel and sell it themselves, but now fuel is sold directly by Illuvium, with only 5% allocated to landholders. In my opinion, this no longer feels like the original ecosystem we envisioned.

Many people, myself included, are deeply disappointed by this change. I personally own 33 lands—1 Tier 3, 11 Tier 2, and 22 Tier 1—and have invested thousands of dollars. Unfortunately, this decision has left me feeling like I’ve lost hope.

I sincerely urge you to reconsider the 5% allocation, as many investors like myself find it catastrophic and unacceptable. This was not our decision, and I hope you can understand our disappointment.

[twin knot]

It was always supposed to be 5% this is not new

Also, 5% is a very good deal for land holders

[dark adder]

where did it say 5%, can you show me link?

[twin knot]

#📣〕announcements message

This is 3 years ago now

Go to minute 29'

Cannot be clearer than that really

The promise has always been 5%