🎮〕illuvium-zero

[icy thicket]

Canadian 🇨🇦 🍁
One day I want to visit Dubai

https://tenor.com/view/pew-futurama-phillip-j-fry-pew-pew-pew-billy-west-gif-5364124

Phosphorus and Ophisto to go 🔥

CONGRATS!! 🔥
what's next on your wanted list?!

[twin sequoia]

Selling fuel for ETH in Illuvidex. But nowadays it is so cheap that it shouldn´t be a reason to buy a plot. I´m sending the fuel to my OW account for a future use. I only play Zero at the moment but as a MMO lite it is possible I play it

Well you can buy it cheap now to develop it (takes several months if it is undeveloped or reset), if you think it will be profitable in the future, increase its price, will play OW/Arena and want it to have fuel/BP or you just like it

[harsh dew]

Suggestion:
Please add the "ESC" button to work as clicking on the X.
Will save players on pc sometime, knowing that the time is the most valuable thing in life after health

[iron laurel]

Rhamphyre. Maybe this morning. I now have my buildings staggered so I can open my presents twice a day instead of once a day.😂

[mortal mural]

I have trouble pressing the x on mobile somehow lol. Sometimes I’m tapping furiously to close it

[harsh dew]

I have the same issue as your!

Perhaps someone from illuvium team should take those suggestion in note 🗒️

[mortal mural]

ill put in a bug report. i think many had the same issue

[icy thicket]

Goodluck!!
I have them staggered accidentally cause I ran out of ressources doing large upgrades lol 😆

[icy thicket]

Don't get me started in this lol
After 5 taps I close the game and reopen it
I am victorious in the end and the game will not defeat me ❌️

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/victory-yes-gif-11214411160867121384

[harsh dew]

What are the prediction on the fuel price & bonus ?

[twin sequoia]

The price will go down for now. Regarding the bonus, I don´t know what change will be done, but AFAIK it will be "cosmetic" to make the process clearer and easier to understand in Illuvidex. DAO will still generate 19/20 parts of the sale.

[harsh dew]

When should I buy fuels 😄

[twin sequoia]

Every hour and every day, so I can sell it at a better price 😉

[harsh dew]

Ho boy, thx for the info guys

[sand bone]

that s good reason enough,but in Ow you can search for illuviums i found it funn but didnt have time previously to play game,now i would like to keep grinding,but will probably need fual to play it out,i assume,i will definitely search for good land.btw are illuviums nft s or just in game assets?

[harsh dew]

Mostly all items are NFT, you can see some NFT categories here:

[twin sequoia]

You can buy the fuel in Illivudex (needed for stage 1, 2 & 3) or send it from your plot. Sending the fuel from your plot or buying it in Illuvidex in theory have the same cost, but the plot let´s you change fuel from one type to another for free (or even with profit on T4 with the right landmark), so you could send the expensive from the plot and buy the cheap in Illuvidex (but now all is cheap xD). Also, once you pay the plot, all the fuel generated would be free for you so if the fuel price increase it would pay out easily.

[tardy falcon]

any zero news?

[twin sequoia]

But now the fuel in Illuvidex is very cheap compared to the price of a plot (that is cheap compared with the original auction), so you can buy it as an investment for the future and/or because you like Zero.

[twin sequoia]

keep looking 😂

[tardy falcon]

oh well XD

[mortal mural]

The amount of tapping I did when I just woke up and didn’t put my glasses on is through the roof

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-doggo-window-goofy-silly-gif-5917292017814590197

[icy thicket]

Oh dayum this tag made me remember gotta check for blueprints

[mortal mural]

I forgot so I get to open presents twice a day again

[icy thicket]

Well that was depressing lol

Nothing again for blueprints

[pale bough]

Hi guys, sorry I'm not following everything these few months, mainly because I'm losing hope in the project seeing bad news about the brothers and ILV and land price dropping dramatically.

I understand that land owners are still used as slave and nothing has changed even with great people working for changing the fuel creation system. It's still 19of20 magically created by the DAO....as long as it's like that everything will still drop in value.

So my question is what can we expect for the futur as land owner or ILV staker ?

No offense, I just ask what is your feeling right now about the project.

[pure fable]

how many tier 1, tier 2 etc Biodata are there?

[opal thistle]

Total biodatas are 130 in total if I'm not mistaken

[pure fable]

and for each tier?

🤔

[opal thistle]

You can find all biodatas in all plot tiers

[pure fable]

no I mean Illuvial tier xD

so that I know when I found all tier 1 and so on

[blazing ferry]

36/31/24/21/18

[mortal mural]

is token trove working correctly? i see some plots listed for sale. but in illuvium land dex i dont see them listed.

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-crowley-buymeadrinkfirst-drink-flirt-gif-5033430

[blazing ferry]

lol

[icy thicket]

Isn't token trove a seperate marketplace?

So anything listed over there wouldn't co-relate on the illuvidex market

[radiant sky]

Should corelate

[grand silo]

I got a good feeling for my scans today, I got some juicy S3s on the way =:))

[iron laurel]

This morning I got a very nice lynx. I said, "Not another Lynx!" I felt like Kieran opening Beyond Disks.🤣

[sand bone]

but they r being traded on open sea right?

[sand bone]

not sure if i understand how it s same cost when you are mining from your land that you bought? offcourse after you build up for probably some time

and if you buy fuel directly you r paying something for it

like if you just mine and send to use in other game it s basically free no?

[blazing ferry]

No, they're all on IMX L2

[mortal mural]

I didn’t know it was a separate thing. I thought it was like a well done land dex with working map filters lol

[blazing ferry]

Think he was saying it's the same cost because you can use your fuel rather than selling it for market price, or otherwise buy at market price

So it's free, but you're giving up the profit by using it

[icy thicket]

Love the blue lynxes - although not a fan of Water... Fire was always the typing i would choose in games (pokemon, mage abilities, etc.)

[icy thicket]

See this one: #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

It is a seperate market/access point to IMX

TokenTrove really is a beauty! I struggled with it at first, but it grew on me

ImmutableMarketplace shutdown, and token troke is listed as their first choice (atleast that's how i see it being first)

[blazing ferry]

never heard of the other two!

[iron laurel]

I like the earth lynxes best. My OW team has a 53 level Stoic Terralynx named K. Cat. K being short for Kitty of course.😂

[vivid cipher]

All immutable marketplaces share the same orderbook.

It’s the website UI that changes form site to site

[icy thicket]

Well there we go! Thanks Pelican! ❤️

[little wagon]

Hi, I have a question. When forming a megacity, can I choose the plots myself or is the computer doing it for me?

[mossy sorrel]

are we currently allowed to mint as many of the same blueprint as we'd like..?

[radiant sky]

You can not choose.
Computer does it for you.
It choose first possible city by scanning plots from top left to bottom right

[radiant sky]

Yes

[harsh dew]

Has it been mentioned anywhere how Illuvium plans to resolve the formula regarding Fuels on the Fuel Exchange?

[radiant sky]

Fuel System gets an overhaul they said.
Saw words Like "fixpricings" "convert all fuel into one" being mentioned in discussions

[harsh dew]

Really convert actual Fuels into 1 will not fix it in my opinion. It's that the complex formula seem not to be considering the amount of players.

[radiant sky]

That's in many peoples opinion more of a QOL Update and less of a really "fix", since some people moaned it's too complicated.

[mossy sorrel]

hm.. interesting.. is that supposed to be how that works? or waiting for a fix?

[fair temple]

It is limited through the use of resources. So you can mint as many as you like as long as you have the required resources. Some blueprints cost 2.7M of each elements. So it may take a while to mint one.

The team may have the intention to adjust these values based on how many are minted and the amount they would like to see minted. If it becomes an over supply, the prices go up, thereby supply can be balanced around demand and playerbase.

We dont want a second coming of fuel oversupply after all ^^ better to have some rails in place and have the team, based on accurate analytics, balance the supply side of things 🙂

[mossy sorrel]

yeah, it's just that i thought there would be really rare blueprints where only 1 would exist... i guess that's not the case

[fair temple]

This is one of the main takeaways for me from Illuvium. Where they made the games' ecosystems shortsighted and based around quick returns rather than longterm views.

Imo it should have taken months if not half a year before the first T5 S3 biodata was found.
From there, 5000 fuel spent and then averaging a single blueprint woulf have given those incredible value.

But due to the nature of IZ, the main factor in the late game is the blueprint and fuel busines. So terrible odds would have let down a lot of players.

If blueprints and fuel were just a supplementary avenue in IZ the team would have been able to push for rarity. But, yeah that may have to wait for the second set of blueprints, based on the second set of illuvials and after a successful launch of the new dawn.
(At least that is my take on this.) With a new set we can see a stack of changes similar to the iterations from Beyond wave 1 through 4

[mossy sorrel]

yeah i guess we can only learn and adapt. what's done is done

[grand silo]

how much elements does a mint require for t5 stage3?

[wide talon]

Not sure about that

[fair temple]

@radiant sky oh mr Zero please share insights 😄

[grand silo]

must be a shit tonne

[fair temple]

Hopefully! 😄

[grand silo]

ive only just hit my first T5 stage3 biodata and ive been going at it for a few months

[mossy sorrel]

it depends which tier your land is..

for T4 or any mega city with a T4, it's 120m of each element

[grand silo]

dammmm

[grand silo]

I have a t3 mc so is it 90 mill?

[fair temple]

Herooo

[radiant sky]

Minting cost are on a t1 landplots.
So if you want to know the cost of higher Tier landplots you have to multiply with the science cost multiplier for each tier

[fair temple]

Is that in line with the X3 for each tier? X3x3 for T3?

[radiant sky]

No it's in Line with the production boosts

[fair temple]

Aha! So x2 for T3s only. @grand silo

[grand silo]

still painful

[fair temple]

60M of each element is nothing for a true ranger!

[grand silo]

thought i could bang out a few each week 🤣

[radiant sky]

Does it really have to be a t5?
I saw t1 skin yesterday looking better than a t5 for my Personal taste

[grand silo]

interesting

where can we see them?

[radiant sky]

They showed some of in richs podcast

[grand silo]

oh you talking about the drones?

[radiant sky]

Yea

[grand silo]

yeah noticed a few looked good as

[frozen finch]

Hello! So I just mintednmy first armor skin. Will it be visible in any of the game modes yet?

[iron laurel]

To get the skin you use the BP you got at your ZPT in Zero by going into the OW and going to the Forge. There you have to use it and 3 of the Illuvials to make the skin BUT you can't make them at the forge yet. Or at least the ones I tried didn't go through.

[frozen finch]

Alright

Will be cool to have some ranger skins in gauntlet

OW too ofc

[iron laurel]

And drone skins.

Drone is even more visible in Gauntlet than Ranger.

[frozen finch]

For sure. Have not had any luck with those yet tho. Only armorskins so far

[frozen finch]

I rarely even look at the drone tbh

Maybe it will change when skins comes

[iron laurel]

Interesting as I always notice the drones people use.
I have been researching a lot for drones rather than Armour.

[frozen finch]

Hmm.. I sure want a blotto skin for my drone

[iron laurel]

I have a Blotto Hilde I would trade you for any other T3 Illuvial BP (same minting costs). DM me if you want it.🙂

[lethal wyvern]

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[frozen finch]

Thanks for the offer! But I think I'll start researching it more and try getting it myself. If I dont have any luck I'll sneak into your dm for sure💪

[iron laurel]

Totally understand. I had to get my own Sear Hilde too.
Good luck!

[frozen finch]

Sear's skins are cool af I bet

Thanks

[harsh dew]

Yeah, would like to see all those 205 skins!

[icy thicket]

We may have to have chitty chat in the future 😉

My blueprint hunt needs improving lol 😆

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/serena-abweh-flex-flex-friday-biceps-gif-24028245

[iron laurel]

These are all my drone BPs.
The only Blotto I got was Hilde.

I got Jotun today! Been hoping for this one as I think the Hilde skin will be incredible. Steve and Hilde - Fire & Ice, that will make a pretty picture.

[twin sequoia]

As Mozeen sais, what I wanted to say is that, for example, you need 350 crypton in OW. You can buy it in Illuvidex or send from IZ. If you buy it, it will cost you, say 1$. If you send it from IZ, it will cost you nothing, but you could have earn 1$ selling it on Illuvidex. In this regards, having a plot is better for me, as I can change fuel types easily and don´t bother about Illuvidex orders adn prices.

Of course you must pay for the plot but once you have produces as much fuel as the plot costs in terms of Illuvidex prices, from then on all fuel is really for free. But at actual fuel prices this could be decades

Of course, if people cared a bit all this fuel could be sold much more expensive as market is full of gaps

All pray good god apple for patch release 😭 😂

[pseudo pulsar]

No bp yet

[lethal valley]

ok guys what to do now with my land? idk how i should proceed
do i go for fuel? if yes which one?
do i go for the main structures max?
do i go for blueprints? what

[twin sequoia]

Easy on that plot :). First you have to link al buildings with the same road path, so there is a bonus for all of them. Second get the crypton extraction site to lvl 6, build a few fuel converters while you upgrade nexus to lvl 9 for that and the the blueprints is as you decide.

Converters at lvl 4 is a sweet spot easy and fast to achive until you max the fuel site. But on each nexus level the first objetive always is to upgrade the fuel site as soon as you can (nexus -> Quantum -> site) and others buildings while you wait to have enough elements/fuels for those ones.

don´t upgrade any building that use fuel until site si upgraded (but converters if the fuel requirement is other type and you cannot convert it).

Roads just need to touch the building in any point, there is no need to circle them (this was from alpha)

It doesn´t matter what fuel to produce, just produce at much as you can and the convert it if needed to use it for yourself (or sell on Illuvidex, but at the moment I think it is better to send it to your account for a latter use)

[sand bone]

so how do you exactly mint the nft s in this game? ohh okay i understand that now,i would rather use it probably to play the game and go into higher tier stages but will see

[sand bone]

but lands are being sold on open sea or i did not see corectly?

[pine kestrel]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/zero/lands

[sand bone]

insee there are different locations and land setups what should i look for as a newbie? for a first land,what would you guys suggest

[pine kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uplJ8iGKS7M

I have a detailed video on this topic, but it's in Russian.

Your browser might support automatic translation of the audio into your language.

[blazing ferry]

It's possible people moved a couple off L2 to L1, but I wouldn't buy there because of gas fees and you'd need to move them back to use them. They could also be fake/scams.

[lethal wyvern]

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Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

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[lyric lodge]

I am wondering if any one else is having this issue, I upgraded my scanners and material labs to highest and since then I have not got anyting, no ilv, no facts, no pb, nothign, is that normal ? Maybe @radiant sky can advise ?

[lyric lodge]

Ah super helpful

[iron laurel]

He finally came to my little city.

[lyric lodge]

oh nice, waht tier is it ? well done

[radiant sky]

Haven't heared of that before. There are days were you are just unlucky, but if it's Like 10 days nothing with 5scanners/matlabs i probably would open a ticket

[subtle frost]

Why can't I get past this screen

does the name have any length restrictions?

[lyric lodge]

just close and restart, no idea why it does tht sometimes

[lyric lodge]

thanks

[fair temple]

Welcome santa, please stay and give Torial some goodies!

[pseudo pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/feeling-it-effects-guitar-bending-shredding-gif-15186806

[iron laurel]

TY! T5 S3. My first of that tier and stage.

[lyric lodge]

Nice how long did it take to find ?

[iron laurel]

I am not sure tbh. I started playing my land in the day we could connect cold wallets whenever that was. Focused on building scanners as fast as possible. It took awhile.

ETA: Woke up properly now (was answering at 4:40 AM my time), you probably meant what tier is my land.
My MC is T3, 2T2, T1

[lethal valley]

very good info. thank you so much ser ^^

[wicked horizon]

finally found my first T5 Biodata!

[iron laurel]

Which one did you get?

[frozen hornet]

Does anyone ever get biodata from scanning? I've done it several days in a row and have gotten nothing. My scanner is max level on a tier 2 plot.

[wicked horizon]

Squizz!

[twin sequoia]

you have a lot of people posting biodata on the channel. If you only have 1 scanner, it will be a long wait always.

[iron laurel]

Nice one! The Squizz skins will be great. Congrats

[past kindle]

i created a blueprint thru the transponder, does it always succeed and does it actually mint?

i mean i created a skin, i dont see it in my wallet anywhere, it was an atlas drone skin i believe

[iron laurel]

Yes it will have worked.
Do you have your land on a cold wallet by any chance? If so that is where it went.

[sweet carbon]

Is there a particular reason I’ve been stuck at level 201? It won’t go any higher for me.

[iron laurel]

Max level for now.

[icy thicket]

Wish it was higher! 😞

[grand silo]

does anyone else have their minting cost double on what is shown? my mint was supposed to be 30mill of each element but ended up being 60mill

[lyric lodge]

@radiant sky hi there how do i actualy get 15 percent boost buy using paths ? It seems my buildingds are only getting 1 percent

[icy thicket]

Are ALL your paths connected?

Longer the path (ideally 1 super path) = highest % reduction

[lyric lodge]

ok do you have a picture to share ? so do ou need to build paths around edges as well ? Is it actualy worth trying to connect them all?

I mean in realtion to having less buildings, thanks !

so one super path down the middle ?

[lyric lodge]

only 2 percent#

wondering what i need to do

[vivid cipher]

It’s based on how many buildings are connected my a single continuous road. So the thing to do will be to build more stuff.

[lyric lodge]

thanks so do i need paths around the sides ? So the idea is build long paths across and connect builigds touching

[lyric lodge]

thanks !

[vivid cipher]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[lyric lodge]

are these at 15 percent ?

[vivid cipher]

Just one square of the building with a section of road adjacent to it. (Diagonals do not count)

[lyric lodge]

ok thanks

[vivid cipher]

All of mine are at 16%

[lyric lodge]

cool

[lyric lodge]

why do you have two data banks, does more data banks give you more change of getting bio data ect ?

thanks

[vivid cipher]

Data banks hold the science data. It’s like storage.

[lyric lodge]

improves research

does more improve better or do you jut need one ?

[vivid cipher]

More data banks and higher level data banks increase the amount of science data that can be stored

[lyric lodge]

so does not improve effeicey ?

thanks

[vivid cipher]

I don’t really know. Maybe @radiant sky knows

[lyric lodge]

ah , arent you part of ilv team ?

[vivid cipher]

I am. But I don’t know everything. Sorry. I do often know who to talk to

[lyric lodge]

Ok thanks

Appreciated let's see what spoon says

[lyric lodge]

Do you know of BP are account bound or land bound....I mean if you find a BP on one land can you find same on on another land ?

Thanks

[vivid cipher]

I did find something in the dev notes. This makes me think that yes it does provide efficiency still. But it’s the same efficiency that far cheaper power stations provide.

Efficiency increase delivered from data banks is a dead feature since there are power stations everywhere and support more than enough efficiency

[vivid cipher]

You can find them on different lands that the same account owns.

[lyric lodge]

So we just need for storage then....thanks

[blazing ferry]

They improve efficiency for materials labs, but usually there are so many power stations they're already at 150%

[fervent hornet]

At the moment, landowners are powerless. we gave up our power when we forked over all our money for the land. The creators got a huge war chest from the land sale, have we ever seen an accounting of how that money was spent/is spent? As it is now, the game is stagnant and boring. Stuck at level 201 for an eternity.

Perhaps each region could be its own DAO, and all DAOs could elect ambassadors to go to creators with suggestions for improvement, as one voice. Perhaps we could arrange a way for them to have real power behind their voice, like we could figure out a way that if we all acted as one we could have an embargo or flood the market. Something needs to change, because the real money isn't in the land, it's a cost, not a revenue for them.

Kieran, you have some excellent ideas to make the land more dynamic. I hope you can make some of that happen. I've given up on having any real revenue from my land as it stands. At least make it more involved and intersting to the overall ecosphere. Otherwise we remain in a slow spriraling death.

[lyric lodge]

Oh I gave up ...just still building and focussing on bp

[lyric lodge]

Sorry what does....do you labs increase better chances of finding bio data

[lyric lodge]

Only way out is to make a better game or more games then fuel will be needed

[blazing ferry]

Materials labs find facts and blueprints. So chances of finding those are increased up to 150% efficiency. If they're all at 150% already, then adding more Data Banks will not improve your odds further.

[fervent hornet]

well somethings gotta change profoundly, not just throwing us a bone every once in a while.

[blazing ferry]

Biodata comes from scanners and Data Banks don't improve scanner efficiency

[fervent hornet]

oh well, worth saying my say, if nothing else

[vivid cipher]

While certainly not a strict accounting there have been the burn reports published in #📣〕announcements (and then pinned in #💰〕token ) since at least mid 2023. #💰〕token message

[lyric lodge]

I think with newxdawm and ia the game will be great but it token won't be worth holding much this bull run none of that stuff will happen this year imo

[fervent hornet]

Well the revenue from the land sales was a big chunk of change, probably covered cost of creating the games I would assume. hard to believe it was all spent on development though. But we are not treated as investors, more like a liability

[junior hollow]

i think they realized the only way for this ecosystem to function is to create demands for illuvials in Arena. so yeah OW and Zero will have to take a back seat.

[fervent hornet]

sigh

[hearty cradle]

90% was silv2 which was burnt.
the other 10% was distributed to stakers and the treasury.
the treasury received about 20% of the 10%, about $1.4m

[hearty cradle]

back then thats about 1 month of burn

[fair temple]

Majority of the revenue from land sale was in the form of sILV2. 66/72M or something. That means only 7M went to the DAO in a workable Eth form. From there, the eth was further divided over all stakeholders, giving the treasury maybe 20% of the revenue = 1.4M with 1.4M you can barely do anything 😅

[radiant sky]

btw for those who haven't watched the last going hyper podcast some drone skins that got leaked:

[grand silo]

whats the last one?

[radiant sky]

drop bear

• Chucco
• Chukoorl
• Chukoondi

[grand silo]

looks good as

[radiant sky]

one of my favorites so far for sure

[grand silo]

so the way it works you can have a drone and matching suit right?

[radiant sky]

yes, you can have both drone and armor from the same illuvial biodata

but you can also mix it up, like for example have a hot fire drone and an icecold ranger armor

[jaunty rain]

correct

[rose thicket]

Can the IMC supply any accounting to the DAO that supports this statement? If not, why not?

[jaunty rain]

but not in the overworld correct? only in arena?

[radiant sky]

Should work in Arena aswell as in overworld

[grand silo]

nice

[hearty cradle]

revenue and revdis claim is on the blockchain

[rose thicket]

two-fold response: 1. cost/benefit to performing such an audit is too much for any rational actor outside of an ILV whale to perform, 2. why does the IMC not have a reconciliation of the largest product sold in the DAO's history?

[icy thicket]

Been researching chikoondi without luck 😞

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/only-fools-and-horses-thank-you-nod-thank-you-doctor-gif-12738310

[hearty cradle]

i cant speak for imc.
personally i dnt see the need to since it is publicly available on the blockchain

what are we questioning spesifically

[rose thicket]

DM you

[icy thicket]

One more to go....

[jaunty rain]

hm, cant manage to put different armor than drone on the ranger...😭

[icy thicket]

Phosphorus to go!

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[radiant sky]

there he is!
Congrats 🙂

[radiant sky]

that's weird.
haven't tried myself to be honest.
Gona have a look at it when i'm back home.

[sand bone]

should i start with tier 1 land,maybe multiple ones,or tier 2/3 i would be probably get 1 tier 3 or multiple tier 1-2 what do you suggest is more efficient? cost/time

[twin sequoia]

It depends on your goals and budget

Having the budget, iI would be better to go for the highest one. May be the difference would be if you want to have plots in different areas for things to come, things from OW/Arena I don´t know as I only play Zero or the affinity of special illuvials for each region

Although I don´t know until what extent this table is useful

Anyway, take into account that you may need to develop the plot yourself if you buy it from Illuvidex, as the development state is unknown there. You can look in https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/832955966031003758 for some (semi)developed plots

[twin sequoia]

Timewise the more efficient is the higher tier always, as you have only 1 plot to manage and plenty on resources to develop it. Time/cost, probably T2 as with a bit of scheduling you can have 3 workers 24/7.

T1 is more for a budget constraint, causal play or just to easily fund your OW/Arena stuff. Or if you want to have plots in several regions

[stiff talon]

NGL the old Taiga Boreal layout was cooler 🤣

[ancient nacelle]

Ophisto is the last one I need to on one of my plots.

[icy thicket]

Goodluck 🍀

[grand silo]

finally!

[radiant sky]

For those who are not into gauntlet and didn't read the blog-post from Aaron; this seems to be the new waiting room for Arena. Every new Flex opportunity should be positive for the science based plots out there 🙂

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-brady-retirement-retired-gif-6247048623969736806

[strong pewter]

Donezo?

[radiant sky]

Last one?

[strong pewter]

A full set of facts should confer a 1% pierce buff in Arena…

And facts don’t sell with a plot, so not p2w

30% bonus!

[icy thicket]

Maybe now I might get some luck on blueprints 😆

[iron laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/retirement-gif-15512873097511739209

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-ver-strong-maybe-bohdi-tulsa-king-s1e9-its-very-likely-gif-27419032

[icy thicket]

Can you provide ang guarantees? 🤔 lol

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-i-cant-nope-sheldon-cooper-jim-parsons-gif-4581373

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/bazinga-gif-27357164

Hopefully that was a bazinga... I know you got the connects 😏

[subtle frost]

Hi guys.. how's everyone doing with their resource selling?

is it still a thing?

or everyone just now chilling and hoarding

[vagrant heron]

Where are the blueprints after they should be minted from zero?

[blazing ferry]

Wallet the land is on, should see it on the Illuvidex

[vagrant heron]

Ahh, theyre on my connected secondary wallet, thats why i didnt see them on passport

[blazing ferry]

You just need more lands 😆

[pure fable]

what is the efficiency needed for fuel converters on T1 to get maximum output?

[icy thicket]

Guess I will start re-developping my Tier 1s....

[twin sequoia]

resetting plot? ❤️‍🔥 sell the lower level power plants and redesing

Will there be a new reduction in plot fuel production or new uses for it? prices will be soon in the 4 zeroes (0.0000X). Don´t wanna continue sending to OW.

I hope the MMO will be interesting to play...

@radiant sky any news on the patch for zero? I don´t remember who talked about it 2 weeks ago.

[icy thicket]

Ya gotta update my plot and move a TON of stuff around

Going to do it tomorrow and see what layout I end up with lol

[radiant sky]

No News.
But those timelines mentioned here and there by the Way are often too optimistic. Give it 1 or 2 more weeks

[twin sequoia]

Yes, I also prefer it to be delayed but for testing/QA, not for commercial issues, so MC bugs don´t repeat. But I love patches and updates lol

[radiant sky]

We all Love them i guess 😁
Especially that IZ patch, finally wana be able to sell some fuel again

🤞hopefully this week

[pure fable]

thanks, is that only for the conversion, or also the passiv generation?

[radiant sky]

Both

[rapid tartan]

Listed a premium T3 piece of land, max level with very few upgrades left to go.

[radiant sky]

Please keep that in #🛒〕land-dex

[twin sequoia]

Max. Prod. is passive generation

[opal thistle]

Back on the T3S3 BPs

[icy thicket]

No storage for buildings = Fuck it! Sold a ton of power stations to help me rebuild my land 😆

Are paths important to have everything connected?

Everything from the bottom right to top left are placed around the fixed ressource sites

I have the entire top right half with NOTHING blocking my placement

[jaunty rain]

does anyone know what that "stock up" button does?

[jaunty rain]

yes, you can gain up to 20% time efficiency

this is important for fuel and bp production time

as well as buildingtime reduced and scanning time

[spring jetty]

anyone wanna buy a t4-2-1-1 megacity

[icy thicket]

Was that there before...?! I don't remember seeing it 👀

@radiant sky !!!!

[icy thicket]

Scanning is over for me

But sounds good! Will aim for 20% reduction

[jaunty rain]

it is a button in the podarium

[icy thicket]

I just cannot remember if it was always there... or if it's new.... hmm

[icy thicket]

I would love to but unable to 😞
Mind me asking why you looking to sell it?

[radiant sky]

Idk, Sold all my podariums after they got deleted for skin creation process

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-so-much-for-this-it-was-entirely-unhelpful-david-david-rose-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20107378

[radiant sky]

Please keep that in #🛒〕land-dex

[radiant sky]

Depends, if you logg in just once a Day anyways it's more than enough to just connect all Buildings with activity

[iron laurel]

Nothing...yet. Not sure what it will do in future.

[grand silo]

anyone else having an issue logging in?

[grand silo]

phew. in

[grand silo]

what are you planning to build through the vacant strip?

[lyric lodge]

how many blueprints are there to collect ?

thanks

[fair temple]

130 x 22, So 2860 this is based on:

18 suit skins and 4 drones. For 130 biodata.

[lyric lodge]

I thought each skin has a drone ? So is it not 18 skin...18 drone ?

[lyric lodge]

Sorry whstvis 130 and what is 2860 ?

[fair temple]

4 drone skins per biodata.
18 suit skins per biodata.
130 biodata.
2860 blueprints.

[lyric lodge]

I have noticed quite a decress in finding anything since I updated my scanners ect....is that normal ?

Ah thanks

[fair temple]

Could very well be luck based. Look at ricky who found 4 biodata one day and 0 the next.

[lyric lodge]

Wow that could take a while lol

[fair temple]

We have 20.000 plots. So the 2860 should be divifed over the plots normally. You shouldnt have all of them 🤣 🤣

[pure fable]

I heard it gets increasingly more difficult to find blueprints the more they got found already, is that true?
How exactly is this difficulty adjustment?

[lyric lodge]

Ah i seee

[grand silo]

burn 80k plots. make land great again!

[vagrant steeple]

Are there really 18 armor skins for each Illuvial?

[fair temple]

Well maybe it is 15. It is either 15 or 18. I expected all 5 tiers and T0 x 3 stages.

Anyways, then the calculation for blueprints is simply (15+4) x 130.

[radiant sky]

Yes

[radiant sky]

Yes that should be true
Nobody knows the exact formula for the bonding curve

[iron laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-anythings-possible-limitless-gif-16382417

2,860. One every 2 days. Only what, 16 years of my life dedicated to BPs?

[fair temple]

2 per day = 1430 days = 4 years~

[iron laurel]

I just got up and the caffeine hasn't kicked in. As soon as I posted I thought, wait that math isn't mathing but unfortunately you saw it before I deleted it.

[fair temple]

We can still collaborate and make it as if it never happened

[iron laurel]

I don't even care yet, it's too early. Ask me at noon and I will probably want to have it all deleted.
I just realized, I usually come on here first thing in the morning and last thing before I go to bed.
You guys rarely ever get me at my best.

[fair temple]

At some point in life it will be a loving memory to look back to. Someone may write it on a bathroom tile 🤣 the torial Hall of fame with all sorts of keychains and quotes ahahaha

[iron laurel]

I showed my husband that keychain. I want to look up my old art teacher who failed me and show him that I am now an artist, ask him if anyone has ever made a keychain out of anything he drew.
(Yes, I have only failed one class and it was art in high school - had to not take it in the higher grades as it would have messed with my GPA 😂 )

I know how surprising it is to find out I didn't do well in art after seeing my Rota. But not everyone appreciates talent.😆

[fair temple]

It is surprising, the turns that we make in life. People like you just needed a few years to reflect before they can perfect their craft 😄

It is sad that the teacher never saw that potential 🤣

[ruby merlin]

Hello, I created a feedback idea about thumbnails on our island start screen. If you support it, please react so it can be implemented. Thank you very much! = #1333787691552342057 message

[icy thicket]

Try to balance my land with more CARBON

Then probably spam some more ZPTs

[grand silo]

yeah im doing the same with convertors on my t1

[pseudo pulsar]

@grand silo did all that fuel come from a T-1 land

[tawdry drum]

how much fuel does a T1 land produce per day?

[twin sequoia]

No, that´s a MC, that storage would be insane on a T1.

On my T1s I go from this on mi science plot (still being developed and on sale in https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/832955966031003758)

to this on my oldest plot. I´ve never sold nothing from it, only invested in its development and now waiting for prices to increase 😦

[twin sequoia]

Depending on the number of converters and the efficiency and if it is dedicated to fuel, science or a mix, I would say it usually goes from 60 to 90 plus path bonus. Some patches ago the fuel production was nerfed to around 25% of the original if I remember right.

[pseudo pulsar]

@tawdry drum i been geting 36 fuel every 22h

[twin sequoia]

T1 extractors at max efficiency give 38 per run, put another power plant near it xD

[pseudo pulsar]

@twin sequoia I'll have to double-check make sure I'm not already getting 38 I misread sometimes

[twin sequoia]

147%, just a bit more for 38 jeje

[pseudo pulsar]

I been at a loss every day 1 fuel dam that adds up haha

[amber hamlet]

Hyperion Lathe lvl 5 and lvl 6 both take 8 hours to convert ... What's the catch? And it only jumps from 60-75.. is this a bug or by design?

[tawdry drum]

is that for a fully optimized T1 land? like fully maxed for fuel production

[ruby merlin]

Hello, I created a feedback idea about thumbnails on our island start screen. If you support it, please react so it can be implemented. Thank you very much! = #1333787691552342057 message

[twin sequoia]

It´s seems fine to me, althought it could be bigger like with storage 🙂 . It also increase passive production by 3 in a T1/T2 and by 6 in T3 (I don´t know in T4, if that´s even relevant haha)

[twin sequoia]

Optiminized for production it should have at least 21 lvl 6 converters at max passive production, so at least 38+((15x21)/6)= 90.5 daily

+path bonus

[tawdry drum]

damm im looking to buy a t1 or t2 but it seems kinda low right?

[amber hamlet]

Makes sense.. thanks bro 🙏

[ruby merlin]

I'm really not able to fit more than 19 converters at 137% efficiency. Are you able to manage it with 21?

[twin sequoia]

Production was divided by 4 more or less with patch 1.0.4? I don´t remember, because demand was so low that price was plummeting. But recently science cost was also adjusted so fuel production now is fine for science. Not so for use in OW, but market price are so lows that it is cheaper to buy fuel than it was expected to produce at first on plots. I mean, if T1 was designed to max at for example 400 fuel/day (to use for a daily stage 3 travel), buying now 400 fuel on the market is much cheaper than it was expected to cost 90 fuel at first.

If you don´t wanna mess with development #🛒〕land-dex message 😅

[twin sequoia]

It´s experince and some tricks. For example, put 2 converters together sorrounded by 3 power plants at each side, or separated by 2:

[twin sequoia]

I can guess that the formula/algorithm hasn´t been modified since it was created/designed. So, if it was with 80k in mind, but there are "only" 20k and most of them are not even used, the relatively few people that is looking for BP (no more than a few hundreds at best) will probably still get max probability.

[ruby merlin]

Let me see if I understand, to achieve this, do you have to sacrifice your biological blueprints and minting data?

[twin sequoia]

If you want to max fuel production, there is no space available for scanners, so no need for science buildings or lot of element storage (just 2 for each element at lvl 8 is enough)

If you also go for science, this is possible

I still have to add 2 more research labs, but there is no hurry for it, I don´t plan to use it for me (biodata get lost with the sale)

Or the person who buys it can do it 🙂

[ruby merlin]

Damn, you're like the efficiency guy, how many hours have you dedicated to that? xD

[twin sequoia]

Too much 😦

But I like it 🙂

[ruby merlin]

the biodata get lost but the blueprints too?

[twin sequoia]

All get lost but the buildings and the plot level. Even the elements are lost (but 2.500 units of each)

[ruby merlin]

Do Cryoton, Hyperion, and Solon up to 2500 units get preserved?

[twin sequoia]

No, fuel is completely lost. Elements are carbon, hydrogen and silicon 🙂

[ruby merlin]

If everything is lost, why are people selling their islands showing all the blueprints they have?

[twin sequoia]

They probably don´t know that. Or try to fool someone, I got tired of saying it in the dex channel. And also it is in slowmode, so only 1 message each 6 hours, so I could always say it

[ruby merlin]

Do you know if there have been any comments about updates to make sure the data and special elements are preserved during the sale?

[twin sequoia]

No, and I don´t know if it even is in the roadmap, could be interesting. @radiant sky do you know something about it?

[ruby merlin]

is a good question

[twin sequoia]

But only for biodata and BP, the rest I think it is right to be lost

[ruby merlin]

From the side of those who own islands, having everything burn is good, and it also motivates people not to want to sell the megacities anymore.

[ruby merlin]

In addition to the motivation you created for building megacities, these islands will be inflationary, but I don’t know what will happen in the future, because if they release another batch of islands as stated in the roadmap, the current ones will drop significantly in value.

[twin sequoia]

I don´t think we are even near of that. Until Arena/OW(MMO) reach the general public or asian market, there won´t be enough demand for it. Now there is no demand even for the 8% of plots that are on sale (around 1600).

And once the fuel demand increase, fuel production of plots could/should be increased to original levels (so a T1 is enough for a daily OW run or equivalent in the MMO)

And science cost adjusted again 🙂

[ruby merlin]

I thought so, they need to enter the Asian market, there's too much money there, I think it's on par with the West.

[ruby merlin]

The theory is so beautiful, it's just a shame that the team is so inexperienced and makes a lot of mistakes, but they do what they can and have a council system. Honestly, this could be a great and incredible investment in the future.

[radiant sky]

I don't know if something is in the roadmap.
The reason why certain Stuff gets deleted has to do with the old blueprint Design. Actually wanted to open a thread about exactly that subject when it got changed, but it got lost somehow 😅

[twin sequoia]

I think that at least biodata shouldn´t get lost.

[ruby merlin]

So, are all the data deleted or just some?

[radiant sky]

All

[radiant sky]

What are your reasons for biodata to be saved?

[twin sequoia]

To increase/mantain the value of the plot when selling it

[vagrant steeple]

So when you buy a land, is the development of that land saved or nothing? I mean, not just the biodata, the uploaded buildings and things like that.

[rapid tartan]

Illuvium land in the gutter is soooo depressing

[opal thistle]

Development is saved but:
Biodata / Facts / Blueprints - Buyer Receives: Nothing

[radiant sky]

Structures and Level stay
Ressources, biodata, blueprints, facts, builders get wiped

[tough field]

Hi. Where can I find the blueprints I minted using the transducer?

I minted one but nothing appeared in my wallet. How does this work?

[radiant sky]

It gets minted into the wallet your Land is on

[tough field]

Ow. I think I was looking at the wrong wallet so. Let me check

[tough field]

By the way. Do you know if these blueprints are the old version (that allows infinite skin production) or if these blueprint are already the consumable blueprints of the IIP-70?

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1301940513288486922

[radiant sky]

There are no blueprint nfts which allow minting of other blueprint nfts anymore in the System.

[tough field]

What do you mean?

Isn’t the blueprint I have right now not consumable blueprint?

If I create a skin, what happens with my blueprint? Will it be burned? Will the skin only exists on OW?

I loved the IIP-70, by the way.

[radiant sky]

There is blueprint data in Zero where a landlord can mint Unlimited blueprint NFT's from
Blueprint NFT's are consumables getting burned during the skin crafting process, yes.
No, the skin should be shown in all Games where you play with Ranger/drone

[tough field]

Got it. But the skin itself is not an NFT, as far as I understood

[radiant sky]

Skins are NFT's

[tough field]

Ow, so the skins can also be sold later too. Got it

[radiant sky]

Yes 🙂

[tough field]

One think that was not on IIP-70 but it was mentioned in some places and I think it’s very interesting is limiting the number of in game “blueprints” a zero land can hold.

Meaning that a landowner must choose what blueprints he wants to keep in game and keeping the loop of producing the nft blueprint based on that blueprint set. If the landowner wants to chance the blueprint set, he would need to delete some of them and start the research process again. This make the gamer to revisit the process of researching and also make the blueprints (NFTS) more rare since not everyone will have the same blueprint set.

[ruby merlin]

Hello, I created a feedback idea about thumbnails on our island start screen. If you support it, please react so it can be implemented. Thank you very much! = #1333787691552342057 message

[harsh dew]

What is the use on the building Podarium and the Stock Up ability ?

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-knows-snl-washington's-dream-2-nate-bargatze-gif-3629663037087366671

what happens when you click it?

[harsh dew]

Nothing at all except the building is no more selected.

[radiant sky]

thought so.
officially it's a building without features as far as i know.

[exotic yacht]

Megacity buyers got rekt so hard

[rigid schooner]

why can't i sell 100 fuel in the market?

[icy thicket]

Long story short: Supply outweighs demand

[pseudo pulsar]

If alt coins go up buying T-2 land

[icy thicket]

I will trade you 3 tier 1 lands for your T-2 😉
Just like illuvium, fuse it on up lol

[radiant sky]

Could be either because you don't own an NFT land or because you trying to sell your fuel to expensive.

• f2p land can't sell fuel
• for setting optimal prices, check the ledger.

[fathom thunder]

everyone got rekt, land prices lost 90% of their value, the fuel economy is busted, start grieving.

[pseudo pulsar]

@icy thicket holding 2# T-1s

@icy thicket best time get in seems

[icy thicket]

I got 8 right now... since land sale... and bought them at the mid-to-high range 😉

[rigid schooner]

What level can I upgrade the Nexus to? I currently have it at level nine, how can I get past that level?

[radiant sky]

level 9 is max

[rigid schooner]

ty

[pseudo pulsar]

@icy thicket $700 ish per i wona say

@icy thicket my shopping list was one resource of each couldn't afford it so I sided with a couple mixed match T-1s haha

[icy thicket]

Mine might have been higher... for each....

1 per region, then a bonus one because why not

[pseudo pulsar]

@icy thicket that was my plan 1per region then i got into beyond lil heavy ..

[lyric lodge]

@radiant sky please report to team

[vivid cipher]

Is that white square in the game? Is it supposed to be a symbol of some kind?

[vivid cipher]

The mobile app does have a button to make bug reports… you can then submit screenshots in the email thread that gets started with support.

[copper inlet]

known and worked on 🫡

[grand silo]

has the update happened yet?

[lyric lodge]

Ok

[rotund forum]

Not grieving, but I did expect the entire web3 space to take off this cycle, and it doesn´t really seem to be happening till now. But instead of looking at this negatively you can also see it as an opportunity. Buying the dip so to speak. I do see this project and the web3 as a whole going places although it apparently needs more time. So be it.

The grind goes on... Ramphyre, Titanor and Scoriox (T4) line complete 💪

[harsh dew]

What is the best way to track fuel order ?

[pure fable]

is the an airdrop program still ongoing? where can I see my points?

[iron laurel]

I find that I get more plants and they grow close to the podarium if you have room for them to do so.

[twin sequoia]

you can track the state of your own orders in illuvidez and all the orders (summarized) in Analytics

[twin sequoia]

It is unknown when season 3 will start. Probably no less than 2 months until the ecosystem is more polished or new funcionalties fixed/added. You can see your points in your profile > missions > history

[twin sequoia]

The original function of Podarium was, and still is, make more plants grow in the plot. But I think that the distance doesn´t matter. May be in Alpha it had a range (I think I saw that in some photos) but no longer has it

[flint compass]

If I mint something, is it automatic upon completion or it can fail? How do I know which happened? If the lands are in my own wallet, is what minted need transferred over in order to see it on the DEX?

[twin sequoia]

Minting doesn´t fail, but there have been errors when trying to mint something (not sure if it is related to MC or some tier/illuvial). You always get the BP NFT in the same account where your plot is. No info is shown in the plot when the minting finishes, just the NFT in the account some minutes (or hours) after the minting finishes

[iron laurel]

I have found that almost all of my plants grow in the blue circled area even though there is space on the right and lower by the scanners, I very rarely get a plant there. It could be coincidence, I don't know.🤷‍♀️

[radiant sky]

mmh... but that's also like 50% of your free space.
They might have been added the plant growing, but when i tried it out on the f2p plot which had like 75% empty space, plants were just spawning randomly all over the plot, even tho i had 4 podarium in a square.

[twin sequoia]

I deleted it from the T1 when finished developing it and nothing was said about new features (gym) for it, but had few space around it and plants grew in other places. But never "counted" if there were in general more because of it

[iron laurel]

just cleared the plants but even if I let them grow for a few days they clump tightly around it rather than spreading to the other open areas. 🤔

[blazing ferry]

Across different plots, it seems like some will have most of the plants grow right next to the podarium and other plots are completely random across the map

[iron laurel]

Strange.

[opal thistle]

It's Snake time LFG!!!!

[opal thistle]

I know that the Frost Armors are going to be great

[vague summit]

When I click info on any of my element storage buildings, they all say they store 4000 hydrogen, no matter what type. Is this the same for everyone? My plot has three level 9 storage for each element, but my storage totals are quite different between the three elements.

[twin sequoia]

Yes, that is a cosmetic known bug at max lvl of the element storage buildings. But the real max storage should be the same if all are the same lvl.

3 lvl 9 storage of each building gives me this on a T3

With the info as you said

[strong pewter]

I need this kind of organization in my life

Actually, the ZERO team needs to incorporate this kind of tracker

[lime pier]

44m with 3 x level 9? I’ve got 3 x lvl9 and 1 x lvl8 silicon storage but max is only 25m. This is a T1 plot, do we get even more restricted on lower tier?

[feral moss]

Is there any way to transfer buildings to a different plot? That’s part of your mega city?

[radiant sky]

No, no way

[radiant sky]

The Store amount of Storages is according to the production boosts of the tiers

[vast needle]

is the marketplace gone? I can't find it on the website

[vague summit]

Ah, it turns out one of mine was still level 8, and I actually had a 4th carbon silo... Which brings up another cosmetic issue that it's so hard to find any specific buildings. It would nice if we could change their color, or show their resource icon, or highlight any copies of the current building selected

[alpine wagon]

How does selling fuel on your land work? Do we get the $ amount it says on the app? or do we just send the fuel to our wallet?

[vague summit]

With 4 x level 9 on a tier 2 I get 39 million.

That's not very cool... Lower tiers need that sort of extra punishment?

[grand silo]

anyone else having issues getting into Zero today? I get to the selection of the plot then it just goes into loading plot

[grand silo]

not sure, you could try re installing it but it didnt work for me, might for you though.

[rapid tartan]

This piece of land has every single element/resource possible, plus it's heavy into crypton. An absolute steal giving it away at this price. Max level.

[sonic gazelle]

illuvium zero points system airdrop wen?

[barren crown]

Without owning a land and play for free, I have 2 builders but since months I am able only to build with one at same time.
Is this normal??

[radiant sky]

you have to sell it on the fuel-exchange on the official homepage.

[radiant sky]

shouldn't be normal.
An ingame bug report would be appreciated, but you can also open a ticket in #❓❓〕support

[radiant sky]

worked fine for me.
What system were you using?
How long did you wait in the loading plot screen?

[grand silo]

just got a email from support saying they are aware there is an issue with some megas and are working on a fix.

[hardy brook]

IZ getting some love. Love to see it 🥳

[radiant sky]

Storage multipliers according to tier production boost is in since the very beginning.
Lower tiers actually just got massively buffed with the tier based science cost.

[radiant sky]

this is huge, super excited about that 🙂

aswell as this

[grand silo]

where you reading this?

[radiant sky]

#📣〕announcements message

[narrow bear]

Am I right in saying t4 land is the only land that can produce fuel for game runs?

[radiant sky]

No, t1-4 can

[rotund forum]

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Just when I thought maybe I have done something wrong in a past life he presents himself

[pure fable]

anyone interested in two adjacent plots? 1x T1 and 1xT2
also I know the guy who has the two missing plots for a 2x2 Megacity next to them

[narrow bear]

Isn’t a T4 a much smoother process

[twin sequoia]

Right now only T4 can support 1 daily OW run to stage 3 . T3 can support 1 S1 and 1 S2. T2 1 S2 every 2 days. T1 2 S1 every 3 days. If original production get restored (nerfed in patch 1.0.4 or so) T1 could, or almost could, do a S3 daily and the rest without problem. But crypton is so cheap in market that is not a problem. And with science adjustments all plots are valid for it even with the nerf.

[narrow bear]

Solid man ty

I’m just looking for 1 plot of T4 If anyone has one but needs to be lower than current Market prices

[twin sequoia]

In the case of T1 and T2, they must be fuel oriented, not science. In the case of T3, if science oriented, could only do the S2 run daily.

[narrow bear]

Yea T3 and T4 are the way to go just because of their capabilities. But can’t find many on the market that are affordable right now.

[twin sequoia]

oh, you lucky

[twin sequoia]

I think this is only that, when active conversion finishes, the pop up in the converter hide the pop up of the full passive cycle finished. And you don´t kno that it finished too but if you select the building. They will probably show both pop ups or one after another.

No big deal, I have all converted in a plot synced, so all finish at the same time and are easy to manage and notice if this happened.

[twin sequoia]

All of them are affordable if you take into account historical prices xD. Right now T3 are quite cheap, not T4.

[radiant sky]

The additional clicking is massive if you have your converters on repeated active conersion

[narrow bear]

Is there a place where some goes through the land platform in depth?

Because that content needs to be out there

[radiant sky]

Might Find something in #🎨〕community-content
But afaik there's not much content about Land which is up to date.

If you have specific questions, you can always ask in here. Lot of helpfull community members that can help you out with most info

[twin sequoia]

Don´t complain for having free fuel on a T4 😂 . When that was active on lower tiers after the nerf, I think it only was 1 fuel per 75, so not very important. Is it more on T4?

Passive generation is each 5 days

Well 4.8, but I don´t hurry so much 🙂

[twin sequoia]

It is quite old, not updated with patches. It should, it is tired to answer always the same 🙂

If they want to compare with clash of clans, there should be a buildings switch functionality 😦

[radiant sky]

it's not as easy as to say it's "free fuel"... a bit more complicated. 🙂

You get +15 for a conversion if you manage to get your converter fitting to your landmark to max efficiency.
But you also need to have enough of the other fuels to be able to convert continuously, which means you need to have every converter on max efficiency and enough of the other converters.
Also you need to harvest your active conversions 3 times a day to keep up with the supposed tier-fuel-output-ratio according to my napkin tables. (T1:T2:T3:T4 | 1:3:9:27)

[little wagon]

question, when I 'transfer out' my land from illuvidex back to my cold wallet, will I loose any progress i made on the land? Somehow I can't make a megacity and I think it has to do with one of the lands sitting in the dex and the rest on the cold wallet.

[lone grotto]

Does anyone know if I can delete the nexus of the lower tier maps when I merged them into megacity ? Or do I still need 1 nexus per plot

[radiant sky]

if you linked your cold wallet as 2nd wallet in your passport settings you should be able to keep most of the progress.
I'm not sure if this was just for a specific time window tho.

[radiant sky]

nexus isn't just a requirement for buildings, but also controls how many total structures you can have.

[little wagon]

hmmm,.... that last sentence makes me worried,.... It is a T4 land maxed out lol,.... not wanna loose that,...

[lone grotto]

ok but then how about engenering workshop and quantum fabriquant ? can i only keep 1 for the whole megacity or do i still need 1 per plot ?

[hot marlin]

illiuvium zeroyu plant satın almadan oynamanın bi anlamı yok mu ???

[radiant sky]

yea i totally understand that 😄
Maybe someone from the team can confirm? @whole spear

Buildings and level you keep anyways, since that progress is kept even if you sell or transfer to a not linked wallet.

[radiant sky]

yes, you only need 1 QF/EW for the whole megacity

[radiant sky]

this is an english only chanel.
You have many different language chanels in #1023944295583076352

[hot marlin]

Isn't it important to play without purchasing the illiuvium zero facility???
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[patent zealot]

Moving your land between IlluviDEX and your cold wallet won’t mess with your progress as long as the wallet is linked to your account.

As for the Megacity issue, that does sound a bit strange. Could you please raise a support ticket so we can dig into it and figure out what’s going on?

[radiant sky]

I'm not sure i totally understand your question.
If you are asking what's the difference between the free to play land and the paid land:

Zero f2p is mainly for getting to know how Zero works before you have to pay for a Land nft. In future there might be more Fun, social activities and competitive pvp/pve features implemented.

For now:

• you can't sell any assets generated on your f2p plot yet
• you can't use any assets in other Games than Zero itself yet

However, you can:

• play for Fun
• play for Airdrop missions ( maybe soon)
• play for possible future features.

Also the tokens you generate with Level ups are Account bound. If you one day decide to buy a Land you can use those tokens to Speed that Land up or buy builders there.

[hot marlin]

I play for free. I reached level 192 and built all the buildings. biological data 0 - plans 0 - facts 0 I don't know how to upgrade. When I click scan in the singularity scanner, nothing happens when production is finished. What did I miss?
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[twin sequoia]

I guess you can convert back and forth, although it halves the time available to "create" fuel.

[twin sequoia]

It may be a bug, but base scanning efficiency is only 5%, so it could be bad luck if you only have 1 scanner.

I mean, when scanner efficiency is 100% (max) the posibility to get biodata is only 5% (lower if scanner is not at 100%). Facts and blueprints are got on material labs, and also have a 5% base efficiency

[radiant sky]

what do you mean with back and forth?

[hot marlin]

No scans are produced in scan generation events

It gives a warning message when the scanning time has finished, but I could not copy it. So I don't know what the error is, I will scan again and write that error here - translate

[radiant sky]

how many scans did you already do?
You have 3 different outcomes of a scan; biodata, fact, nothing.

[radiant sky]

would be appreciated if you also create an ingame bug report with that error message. 🙂

[twin sequoia]

that napkin table, should be 1:4:12:36. With 100% efficency (25-100-300-900) or with 150% efficiency (38-150-450-1350)

[hot marlin]

I will write the warning here when it is finished in 24 hours - translate

[radiant sky]

should... yea.
Was arguing over months about that. Gave it up 🙂

[twin sequoia]

If your landmark is for crypton and have an hyperion extractor it is direct from H t C. But you can also convert from C to H or S at 100% to have H or S to convert back to C with profit

[thick trail]

Devs, please fix this issue. This aspect ratio can’t be so hard to resolve.. thank you!

[radiant sky]

yea you need to do that, otherwhise you run out of "conversion materials" pretty quickly.
But you also need to have them at 150% efficiency otherwhise you convert with a loss.
So for example if i have a solon landmark i can convert hyperion into solon with a +15 netprofit, but i also need to convert solon into hyperion at the same time to not run out of hyperion.

[twin sequoia]

you know, I like a bit of complexity in my (strategic game) life

T3 with science ruin % from converters

[twin sequoia]

Perhaps last patch (launched this morning) did it

[thick trail]

It is a long time issue…

There is no option to change resolution or aspect ratio

[twin sequoia]

Yea, I deleted the post, I thought it was possible

[little wagon]

Thanks for answering, I just tried again to form a mega city and it surprisingly works now! So no need to transfer my land for now 😉 I've tried multiple times during last week, but now it worked.

[twin sequoia]

I´m sure I saw that option somewhere, but It could have been removedin a patch

[twin sequoia]

This morning there was a patch with fixes for MC

[little wagon]

yeah, I saw that and this fixed my issue i guess 😉

[radiant sky]

omg, just found a major error in my tables 😄
Gona have to redo them later

[twin sequoia]

umm bonus path x1.2 instead of /0.8. That is quite usual

[signal maple]

do we still need 4 nexus in MC with this patch?

[radiant sky]

worse xD
Actually didn't calcualte path bonus in at all.
Probably do that aswell

[twin sequoia]

We are waiting for the brave person to test it xD

[radiant sky]

depends on how many structures you want to build, since nexus also controls the amount of max structures

[twin sequoia]

Does it still says "Allows 202 Structures"? Then, you should be able to sell it, but not to build anything else till you build it again. If it says "Allows 808 structures" in a MC, then you can sell it without problems until the MC is split

[radiant sky]

hmmm...

can't remember the description before on the nexus info screen tbh

[twin sequoia]

oh, my god! It seems fuel from converters are now affected by efficiency on a decimal basis instead of in sections like before

This is a big nerf to my T1 and a small nerf to T2

[radiant sky]

depending on how they solved it.
I feel it's actually still the same. But they might have changed the output of the last cycle.

[twin sequoia]

On T1 with 134% the output was 5 per cycle, 15 in total. In T2 with 126% it was 6 per cycle, 18 in total. I don´t mind much in T3 and converters are 150% or almost.

[twin sequoia]

This is the ongoing run, since before the patch. Check the info screen and let´s wait for the result of a new run after the patch. It is not the first time that the result doesn´t match the info xD

[radiant sky]

the solon converter with the 125% efficiency should actually just grant 5 each cycle, but seems to still give 12 each cycle

[radiant sky]

true true

[twin sequoia]

Well, in a T2 I use 126% for a minimum, but I´m not sure if the minimum is 126 or 125. I sometimes add 1% to be sure of the output

[twin sequoia]

Yes, after the patch that should be the result, but on a T2 it is not so important as on a T1

lol?

[ancient nacelle]

Yeah I've been waiting for 2 weeks with this issue. I hoped the update would fix.

[ancient nacelle]

Out of interest is yours 2x2 or 3x3?

[grand silo]

no way dam that sucks big time! especially when you factor in the loss of resources/minting time. Just got a email saying the team has a fix in this latest update. Have let them know its still not resolved.

[grand silo]

2x2

[twin sequoia]

conversion info and power requirements should be summarized, I don´t think it ever gets split, right?

[twin sequoia]

this should be "Boost base silicon..." it is cumulative %, not compound/multiplicative

I don´t find the keybinding support

[iron laurel]

There are 130 Illluvials to collect. My total was showing 126 but my paper list I keep said I was missing 6. I went through my Biodata and was reminded that I have Carablu and Monkier twice.
Just a reminder to not sell your scanners until you manually go through your Illuvial list, don't just go by the number. 🙂

[lean bison]

I can't log in anymore

[opal thistle]

Maybe close the 73 tabs you have open lol...... Clear cookies and cache that usually solves that issue

[lean bison]

You got a point I guess 😂

[twin sequoia]

you may also be using a code that is outdated. Just go to https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/ and login

[twin oracle]

is Megacity already implemented? Where is it?

[twin sequoia]

Two patches ago. If you have the plots grouped right, the game directly ask you form a MC if you want

[twin oracle]

ask inside the game?

[twin oracle]

How do I know if the plots are grouped right?

My land is here

[radiant sky]

?zero-megacity

[lethal wyvern]

What are megacities in Illuvium: Zero?

Megacities allow adjacent plots that make up a 2x2 or 3x3 square to be combined to form one larger plot.

The expected benefits of a mega-city are:

• the ability to share landmark bonuses between plots,
• the ability to share resources between plots with no transfer cost (in either time or resources)
• the ability to share support buildings like the Engineering Lab resulting in increased available space.

Megacities are not currently available in Illuvium: Zero and a specific date for their implementation has not been announced.

[radiant sky]

Can't Form a MC with just 1 plot

[rose thicket]

@radiant sky do you know if the patch fixed the megacity fuel iludex issue? <settling the pending orders>

[radiant sky]

It didn't fix it

[rose thicket]

confirmed from my side

[radiant sky]

AT least for me it's still bugged and i can't sell, but it's also not mentioned in the patchnotes

[rose thicket]

@bitter glade are you aware that fuel exchange sales are not clearing being paid for megacity plots?

[radiant sky]

They actually doesn't even get created

[timber sapphire]

bruh they dont want us to have anything huh

[twin sequoia]

Well, this is on PC

This morning I probably couldn´t see it because I was accessing remotely to the PC and resolution was fixed.

[thick trail]

Yes, PC works fine, just on iPhone no.

[twin sequoia]

I wouldn´t bother much. It started plummeting again 2/3 weeks ago (it was slowly recovering) and at current prices, it is ~1.5$ per 10k fuel. If MC could sell, it would be even lower, so I prefer to send to my OW account for a future use.

Now I´m converting to crypton to "balance" the OW account, just in case it matter if in the future if it is all transformet to only one fuel type

[twin sequoia]

you were able to put the sale order, so it may be a price too high

[lean bison]

Same issue

[radiant sky]

did you update to the latest patch from today?
i read that for iPhone users need to do that manually.
Clear cache and cookies, restart browser, restart device might help aswell.

If nothing works, i would recommend to create a ticket in #❓❓〕support

[radiant sky]

you better sell and rebuy than send it directly, to be eligible for the distribution of non fuel based revenue.

[cursive mirage]

For my mega city nothing has changed with the update. It still stucks in the loading plot screen

[proven mist]

thanks for reporting the issue. We checked and this is a UI only bug. It is always reporting a 15 second Upgrade time if there are Upgrade restrictions. Once the structure is available to Upgrade and the button is green it shows the proper Upgrade time.

[proven mist]

please submit a ticket, if you already did we will check it out and make sure we fix this for the next release

[thick trail]

Thank you and already did it.

[twin oracle]

I must have more then 1 plot?
I can't do megacity with other people?

Just to confirm

[radiant sky]

yes, you need to own the plots yourself.

?zero-megacity

[lethal wyvern]

What are megacities in Illuvium: Zero?

Megacities allow adjacent plots that make up a 2x2 or 3x3 square to be combined to form one larger plot.

The expected benefits of a mega-city are:

• the ability to share landmark bonuses between plots,
• the ability to share resources between plots with no transfer cost (in either time or resources)
• the ability to share support buildings like the Engineering Lab resulting in increased available space.

Megacities are not currently available in Illuvium: Zero and a specific date for their implementation has not been announced.

[twin oracle]

Thank you

[radiant sky]

@lone grotto @signal maple
I just tested, 1 nexus is enough for the structure limit in a MC
Not sure it's a feature or a bug tho 😄

[cerulean kettle]

Since the update, has anyone’s biodata hit rate drop. I normally find 1 out of 5 scans. Just got 0 out of 15 scans.

[radiant sky]

yes i did

but happens... had 2 days in a row nothing in my MC with 20 labs

[twin sequoia]

Could it be a reduction in available biodata because other discovered it?

[radiant sky]

probably just bad luck.
But yea, there is a bonding curve which should impact the chance somehow... but it's not like biodata can run out. Every plot can get all biodata.

[grand silo]

fs another day cant access the mega.

painful

[wispy prism]

Hey all, does anyone know the version number on EPIC? I'm not sure if it updated or not. Here the version i have now : IlluviumZero-Windows-manual-MAIN-202501291937

[vivid cipher]

I’ll see if I can find it

[vivid cipher]

Yeah that’s the newly uploaded one.

[wispy prism]

Sweet thanks ☺️

one more question, I'm finding it hard to tell which building affect the scanners. When i click on the scanner i can see the tiles change colour, yet when i try to fin which buildings i cant see which ones in particular. Can anyone direct me to a good clip or walk through on placements?

[vivid cipher]

I think it’s any building that is not a power station

[signal maple]

nice, tks bro

[hearty cradle]

hows the new patch

[serene iris]

If you got 1 out of 5 that is incredibly lucky.

I have been running 9 scanners every day and often go 2-5 days without finding anything

Its even worse for research IMHO, running about 15 of them and often got several days without finding anything

[spring void]

Are we able to sell minted blueprints now?

[past kindle]

what suppose to happen once a skin finishes, i just completed a second skin, and nothing happens

[past kindle]

you always could

note to self, dont log into profile before loading zero, shows you blueprints discovered hehe

[spring void]

I don't see it on the illuvidex was going to research prices

[past kindle]

i have a beta of my dex at ilvstore dot com you can click blueprints there

[spring void]

Ouch nvm found the blueprints. Basically can buy any of them for free lmao there are already 100k created. Talk about land being beyond worthless at this point. Bummer

[tardy falcon]

so what's up? mega cities just don't get progress bonus elements and that's it?

[past kindle]

naah, those are all beta blueprints

[spring void]

How much of a discount do morphs give?

[spring void]

Recent sales all show like .00003 eth which is like $0.10 unless I'm reading the illuvidex wrong

[past kindle]

if you went to my site, you'd see there is 1972 for sale and easily filter tier,stage, type, etc

[cerulean kettle]

I’m scanning for biodata on 3 plots, hit rates are 36%, 27%, 29%. I believe this is online with the rates hits they put out.

Research for Blueprints has a hit rate around 5%.

[cerulean kettle]

What’s the site, since Blueprint filters need to be seriously updated on the DEX.

[cerulean kettle]

I agree with you….we have gotten this far, silly to stop now. They just need to get the MMO version out for OW and market it hard.

I’ve been considering buying some of these top BPs, since folks just want to let them go for a few dollars. BTW how many plots and what Tiers are they that allowed you to find that inventory so quickly?

[dusty sky]

guys there's no more rewards on this right?

removing these plants

[twin sequoia]

Yes, you usually get a random element as reward, depending on the level of your nexus and the stage of the plant.

[dusty sky]

i see thanks mate

[radiant sky]

you can push it down to 0 cost if you have enough mopods

[past kindle]

ilvstore dot com

[spring void]

What about time reduction?

[radiant sky]

time reduction is as usual with the path bonus up to 20%

[spring void]

Ah so morphs don't reduce time?

[radiant sky]

yes

just the cost

[spring void]

Thank you!

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[grand silo]

crap. some mega cities cant even get access now.

[pseudo pulsar]

quick question do I have to have all the facts and biodata to find the blueprints ?

[opal thistle]

You need the biodata for BP but you don't need all facts, they increase your chances but I've successfully found blueprints with 0 - 1 fact found

[hearty cradle]

sorry to hear that. has someone from team addressed this?

[grand silo]

yeah im only two days in but one guy here was saying its been an issue for him for the last 2 weeks.

team are working on it

[pseudo pulsar]

@opal thistle ok nice thanks ..

Had a feeling

[blazing ferry]

I have 10 Mah'mut blueprints without any facts....not sure they even exist

[pseudo pulsar]

@blazing ferry starting to think facts are like gold ..

[blazing ferry]

Not sure, others I get much quicker. Something might just not be quite right there yet.

Looks like mostly if I have a few blueprints for an Illuvial, I also have 3-5 facts already

[rose thicket]

MCs cannot sell fuel per my experience and @radiant sky …disappointed/unsatisfied customer experience to say the least.

[tawdry drum]

how much fuel per day are you guys getting from a t2 land

[twin sequoia]

If it is fully fuel oriented, at least 210 without path bonus

[tawdry drum]

with path like 250?

[twin sequoia]

Yes, can be, but it is difficult to take advantage of the bonus in extractors

Between 230-250 I would say

[harsh dew]

Bonus Fuel How does the Bonus Fuel is working ?

[jaunty rain]

per fuel? or all combined?

[twin sequoia]

All fuel output combined

[twin sequoia]

When you put a sale order, DAO multiplies it x20. So, if you sell 100, an order per 2000 will appear in Illuvidex. 5% of the order is your fuel and get paid for it. The rest is for the DAO.

[harsh dew]

Is it normal that the Bonus Fuel on crypton is that low compare to other Fuels ?
Knowing the order book on Crypton is the highest > 20M compare to 16M for others.

[radiant sky]

Bonus is basically the difference from top rail to floorprice

[harsh dew]

Ok, so it's mean there more depond on Crypton right now I guess

[radiant sky]

Looks like

Could also be that some hyperoon/solon sellers drove prize more down than crypton sellers.
Would have to Check ledger...

Usually they are roughly arround the Same level

[harsh dew]

Maybe in a couple day they will be back to "normal"

[iron laurel]

🎉

Last Lynx found today too.
🙂

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sweet-hell-yes-pump-it-gif-2609956353695275627

[twin sequoia]

Yes, it is qutie strange. Lately crypton was the cheaper, hyperion was in the middle and solon was improving probably because of minting release. May be for this (and skin not working in OW) more sale orders have been put on solon than the rest and the price is on par with H. I´ve been several days without looking at it, as I got discouraged when prices started plummeting again, and now Crypton prices are by far the higher (tho still very very low).

[pine kestrel]

Hey, friends. I just wanted to check—does drone skin crafting work correctly right now? I've been waiting for a few minutes, but it's not printing.

[iron laurel]

No it doesn't work. It will fail. They are hoping to fix for next patch and then it will go through.

[pine kestrel]

Are the Goliaths and Blueprints permanently lost?

[iron laurel]

No. The BP will be made when they fix it.

[pine kestrel]

Thank you very much for your response!

[ruby merlin]

Brooo. 300k all

[pine kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-money-cash-money-bed-gif-3558288

[lucid plank]

we are Monarch!

P.S. swap this Rhamphyre + 300 $ for your T3 Land

[iron laurel]

You're welcome. Peter also said this

[radiant sky]

[pine kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-catch-em-all-gif-5662253

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-pikachu-gif-20108243

[pseudo pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gotta-catch-em-all-pokeball-bleh-tounge-out-gif-13848399

[lyric hamlet]

Im getting offered 251.95 for my T1. Should I take it? I'm asking for 500

[pseudo pulsar]

@lyric hamlet why are asking $500

I have 2 T-1 not sure how to value them either ...

[lyric hamlet]

It's half what i paid

Fell for the trap of this bs

Hopefully I'm next to a ners that thinks this land is worth something for a megacity

Nerd*

[signal maple]

pretty sure that you will get error when accept that offer

if not for MC then that price is double the market price for T1

[hazy crest]

Hey team what's the best way about it for a newbie to start investing an playing zero an eventually the arena an over world? I really like the idea of farming an grinding on zero. Appreciate your support 🙏

[pseudo pulsar]

@lyric hamlet Offer new players a deal and add a service for your Insight on how to get started and what's the best things to do at first someone would like a personal game advisor ...

[opal thistle]

Don't accept DMs they are scam

[tardy falcon]

eyy how many biodata is there now?

[blazing ferry]

130

[tardy falcon]

I have 151 /:

[blazing ferry]

You might have duplicates in a megacity if you had some on multiple plots before merging

[tardy falcon]

I'll check

[tardy falcon]

that's totally it ty

I'll delete the doubles and see where it's at

Ok 130... guess I can shut off the scanners

[blazing ferry]

Nice!

[blazing ferry]

@patent zealot @copper inlet The passive fuel generation formula changed in the last patch and this was not in the patch notes. Does that mean it's a bug, or was this intentional?

Also, did Theodor leave the team? Who are the leads for ILZ now?

[tardy falcon]

yah feels like passive gives more now

[grand silo]

has anyone tried splitting their mega?

[grand silo]

do you still have no access with your mega? im at 4 days now

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out-gif-787200512316047271

[radiant sky]

you get more? or you feel you get more? 🙃

[radiant sky]

what do you mean specifically with changed?

[rotund forum]

3rd line (T5S3) completed today!

[wary skiff]

Wow. Sorry i'm new there, but is it worth it to farm blueprint ? Which one ?

And we can have only one exemple of each blueprint ?

---

I have big problem of lagging and slowdown on my game (my land is full of fuel converter). Do you have any tips for have less lag ?

[radiant sky]

Yes, you can't have multiple of the same blueprint-data.
However, you can mint unliminted blueprint-nft's from your blueprint data.

Might wana check your graphic settings in Zero, update gpu drivers and check for having a stable internet connection.
If you talking about lags when moving arround buildings, that's probably a problem everyone has.

[ancient nacelle]

No. Over 2 weeks now.

[grand silo]

@radiant sky whos in-charge of Zero these days?

[wary skiff]

Oh, so what is the goal of get each blueprint-data ?

And it's per Land ? Or per account ?

And yes, i talk about lag when moving building. I want to rearrange my land but ... Fuck, too slow and complicated

When will they correct illuvium zero bug ? It's borring '~'

[twin sequoia]

That was a big problem before patch 1.2.7. Before patch, it seemed that power/efficiency calculations where done after the building was moved just single square, what made the edition lag a lot always. And it seemed to be fixed giving a few time (like a second or so), after stop moving a building, before recalculation of power/efficiency. May the time be adjusted or the algorithm improved in 1.3.3 , I don´t know, but it works fine for me (once you get used to it) since 1.2.7.

[twin sequoia]

It is per land, so MC have a big advantage over plots alone.

[wary skiff]

Why ?

[twin sequoia]

Use it in OW or sell it in Illuvidex

[wary skiff]

No, i was saying "Why collect all blueprint like @rotund forum ", we can just farm only the same blueprint and gg

No ?

[twin sequoia]

You don´t get duplicates on a MC, so a 4x4/3x3 MC can find up to 130 biodata. Each of the plots alone can find also 130 biodata, so you may need to find 517 biodata until you find the last Illuvial (worst case scenario) if you have 4 alone plots, vs only 130 biodata in a 2x2 MC. Seeing it in other way, you can have up to 20 scanners on a MC to find 130 biodata; but you only have 5 scanners on a plot to find those same 130 biodata. Even better with a 3x3 MC (up to 45 scanners). The same works for blueprints.

[twin sequoia]

You are a collector man or just want to be prepare for anything to come.

[wary skiff]

I have a 2x2 MC, actually i have FULL fuel converter. What do you advice me ?

[twin sequoia]

Change it with my refined, yet alone, plots 😭

[twin sequoia]

That´s is up to you, you decide how you want to play the game or what to do with it

[wary skiff]

Can i dm you ?

[twin sequoia]

Wich one? 😂

[wary skiff]

all of them 😂

[twin sequoia]

I think it didn´t change, but calculation/representation is more accurate. Yet it reduced passive generation in my view. Why do you think it got improved? In all tiers?

[twin sequoia]

They are doing it step by step, yet still some remaining.

[blazing ferry]

The passive generation you're collecting now (if it's from a full 6 day cycle) is still based on the pre-patch equation, so it shouldn't have changed. I'm looking at the detailed info in each converter.

[blazing ferry]

I haven't looked at all land/converter tiers yet, but just looking at T1 level 6 converter, the equation used to be ROUNDUP(Efficiency * 3) * 3 and now it appears to be ROUNDUP(Efficiency * 9) based on the building info for different efficiencies.

@twin sequoia This is a significant nerf and requires more power stations. Anyone who optimized their land plots (which I believe you did) for the rounding breakpoints, now needs to reexamine their layout or accept lower output.

Note that not all land tiers and converter levels used a multiplier after the rounding previously, so I would expect those aren't impacted.

[twin sequoia]

Yes, that is what I meant, I should now delete some converters get the space to improve efficiency of the nearby ones or build power plants and get max production for each one, as I don´t have physical space to separate converters or build more power plants or just "building space" (202 limit) to build more power plants.

[blazing ferry]

The nice thing with this change is that there aren't big jumps of 3 with 1% efficiency change. But it's still a major change and we deserve to know if this was intentional or a bug before redoing all our layouts.

Really poor form if this was indeed intentional and they chose not to include it in our patch notes!

[twin sequoia]

I think it's intentional, as that should be the initial design. But they thought we weren't weird enough to take it into account in our actual layouts xD ... so they don´t read our posts 😦

[ruby merlin]

Person, sorry if I missed something, but +137% efficiency will no longer give 15 full passive on T1 lands?

[iron laurel]

Only one left now, just need Adorius.

[opal thistle]

Dang you on a roll

[tardy falcon]

🤪 yah could just be that there’s less more often now idk

[iron laurel]

Couldn't believe it when there were two this morning. I am almost going to be sad when I have them all. I get so happy when I see an Illuvial from a scanner.😂

[celest wagon]

we could add a feature so that the drone automatically collects the fuel and then relaunches

[pseudo pulsar]

@iron laurel what T- is your land how many are you working and how long now haha

if you can't tell I'm trying to build a time frame

Seeing how long for my 2 T-1s to find them all ...

[iron laurel]

This is from my mega city. 1 T3, 2 T2 and 1 T1. I started when cold wallet support came in, whenever that was.
I think it will take awhile for T1s tbh.

[pseudo pulsar]

@iron laurel i know T-1 at max will make 38 fuel a day .if any of this makes sense for time and consumption I guess fuel would equal outcome

other than different designs you're limited with fuel spending

[twin sequoia]

Probably they will, if devs only changed info tab to be more precise. If the underlying algorithm didn´t change (and probably didn´t), the results will be the same. We need to wait for a cycle to complete to check it.

With 2 sub-cycles it seems right, still max prod. Let´s wait and see when it finishes, or even finishes a second complete cycle

[tardy falcon]

Any talk of making scanners have a secondary use?
Once all biodata is found scanners have no use and take up space and eat up power.
Can we make it so scanners can find illuvials and if they spot one then we send out a drone to attempt a capture??

[leaden egret]

Is it possible to get more than 20 as road bonus ?
Or is it caped like the level ?

It s about a 4x4 mega City and not 6x6 one

[radiant sky]

20% is max

[leaden egret]

Ok, then no need to construct more than needed 🤷‍♂️
Thanks

[radiant sky]

can always need more converter and powerstations 🙃

[leaden egret]

No, I m looking to get as much place as possible to make matériel labs and scanners…

Like this one

[radiant sky]

aah i see

https://tenor.com/view/noice-brooklyn-ninenine-b99-smile-gif-11928987

[radiant sky]

build your science buildings on your lowest tier in your megacity

[leaden egret]

If I do I m blocked on louer tiers searching results

I want big tiers

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-javi-gutierrez-pedro-pascal-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-happy-gif-25135496

[radiant sky]

what do you mean?

The only difference in research/scanning between the tiers of land is the cost.

[leaden egret]

About research, if my science buildings are on lower tier I ll not get high tier result

For bluprints and biodatas

[radiant sky]

yes you do

same chance for every tier

[twin sequoia]

No, it is the level of the scanner what limit the level of the illuvial, not the tier of the plo

plot. The same for research

[leaden egret]

So why maxing them ? 🤷‍♂️

[twin sequoia]

To find biodata of higher level Illuvials

[radiant sky]

as he mentioned, the level of your scanner/research lab determines which tier of biodata you can find with scans or research in material labs

[leaden egret]

If your scanner is level 1 and you can get tier 4 biodata , why maxing them ?

[radiant sky]

but you want to build them on your lowest tier land, since the cost is massively lower

[twin sequoia]

No, with a lvl 1 scanner you can only get lvl 1 biodata

With a lvl 5 scanner you can get biodata from all tiers

[leaden egret]

And now the coast of research are same doesn t matter which level it is

[leaden egret]

So as I said, reason why I maxed them 🤷‍♂️

They are all 3/3/3 at each level now

For the research price

I know, I never said that you can get higher level biodata with a lower level scanner 🥸

[twin sequoia]

Then why you said this?

[leaden egret]

Because of Dr Spoon lol :

build your science buildings on your lowest tier in your megacity

[leaden egret]

This one

[radiant sky]

exactly

except you wana pay more fuel/elements for each scan/research/mint

then you can build them on your t3 land 🙂

[leaden egret]

No prices are same now

[radiant sky]

no T1 land is cheaper

[leaden egret]

Research price

Oh T1 against T3 !

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[leaden egret]

Sorry thaught you talk about the research prices from level 1 to 5
Cause before prices were higher with level

I ll try to max the storages to delete some on T1 and gain some place to have maximum science research on each of my 4 lands megacity

But need time to reoeganize them, took me almost two hours for the T3 yesterday night lol

[radiant sky]

you can build all 20 material labs and like 6-8 scanners on your t1 land if you want... so you have cheap science cost and you can produce fuel/elements on your higher tier with the production boosts
(i would recommend it)

[leaden egret]

Yes but for what I already have on it I prefer to keep them cause they cost me a lot (all maxed already).

[radiant sky]

yea... i did that 😄

still building my science plot... but almost done

[leaden egret]

When I ll have too much fuel maybee I ll do it 😂

[lyric hamlet]

Illv

Illuvium mkt cap is 130million

Still way overvalued compared to the Financials

[stable minnow]

Hey guys, is this some UI bug?

Sold some fuel, says I got $3.50 elsewhere (which is what I expect tbh at current state), but UI is showing this?

What is that number?

[opal thistle]

We need this financials

[radiant sky]

It's a Bug, yea

[stable minnow]

and I may have asked this a while ago but have forgotten, so forgive me... but how should I best be using the analytics to determine the current price to list at?

[twin sequoia]

Change depth to 1 and you can see the cheapest sell orders. There can be a little variations, as it works on "steps", but probably less of a tenh

Cheapest order will be between150-160

[twin sequoia]

That price is for the full order, including 95% of DAO addition. So, 174.45/20~=$8.74 is what you get and the rest is for the DAO.

[twin sequoia]

If you want to quit information about the plot, quit also the time and the quantity, as it is easy to check in the ledger xD

[stable minnow]

Thanks... enjoy that DAO! haha

Well now I am getting a web page error when trying to list. Goddamit this takes longer than it should

[twin sequoia]

All you plots but one are in Shardbluff Labyrinth. Don´t you want a T3 in another place? I also have cheap ones in Abyssal Basin and Chrystal Shores 😉

[stable minnow]

I am alright for now thanks Serg, but will keep in mind if I want to expand 😄

okay I give up. Will try again later I guess lol...

[twin sequoia]

I never have problems with orders (even I almost never list fuel). Go to your profile to be sure you are logged into your account with a valid token (password) and go again to Illuvidex or open it on a new tab

[stable minnow]

Thanks, will try that

[lyric hamlet]

If btc goes to 80k I expect ilv to be at a 50m mkt cap

Sorry wrong channel

[iron laurel]

In my MC I have one T5 scanner that finishes at a different time than the rest.
You know how I found Dualeph and Phosphorus this morning?

This guy showed up tonight on that scanner! What an insanely good scanning day.
I am done getting Biodata.🎉

[wide bobcat]

Hi guys, is there a list of which biodatas and blueprints are available in illuvium to find / mint ? I have found plenty and was wondering if I have found almost all or not. thanks

[lyric lodge]

@radiant sky what does this mean when try yo research ?

[radiant sky]

You probably have pending fuel sales.
The fuel you are trying to sell remains locked in your storages until sold

[radiant sky]

You can Find biodata of all T1-T5 illuvials. (130)
You can Find blueprints for each drone.(4)
You can Find blueprints for each armor. (18)

[past zodiac]

illuvials = 130*

[radiant sky]

yea... was at the phone and mistyped 😄

[harsh dew]

😄

[stable minnow]

Anyone have any ideas on how to avoid this when trying to sell fuel? Have tried logging in and out, have tried new tab and incognito

[radiant sky]

is it a megacity you are trying to sell fuel from?

[stable minnow]

Nope

[radiant sky]

would try clearing browser data, and double check if it's the right amount of fuel for the right price.

[stable minnow]

Thanks Spoony, I played around with the price and I could list

not an intuitive error message, so I appreciate your help!

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[radiant sky]

may i ask, you tried selling too cheap? cause there should be a yellow error message right below saying you have to list at least for xyz price.

[stable minnow]

No, it looks like I tried too expensive

Read the analytics chart and got my price there, but perhaps I wasn't reading it right

so this time I just listed for the max suggested price that the UI gives you by default 🤷‍♂️

[radiant sky]

please note that unfortunately the analytics chart has prices in $ and when you want to sell you have to price it in eth.

[stable minnow]

lol - that'll do it 😄

[radiant sky]

i usually just check if the floor is thin on the analytics chart, but get my prices from the ledger since i can just copy paste it out there

[stable minnow]

so how do I do that from here?

[radiant sky]

i do it via ledger, activate the filters for the fuel i want to look up and filter for "new sale order" + "buy order distributed"
Then you can see the latest sale orders placed, and for what price latest buyer bought.
Depending on how fast you wana sell it you can either sell it for the cheapest you see or if the flor is thin you might want to sell it a bit more expensive.

[stable minnow]

Thanks, will try that method out and see how I go 😄

[cinder grove]

I have a couple of minting and BP questions:

1. Can I move the BP from one land to another land?
2. When I sell land, do I keep the BP and can I then use it in another land?
3. How do I import the Morphopods from OW to a specific land?
4. Can I see somewhere what each armor skin is for?

[radiant sky]

1. No
2. No
3. Morphopods are like speed up token and are available for all your plots on your account #🎮〕illuvium-zero message
4. Each blueprint nft is a consumable for a very specific armor skin. (It's written on it)

[cinder grove]

Thank you for the answers.
4) I see names like Starmail, Impervium, Plasmaskin, etc. But I have no idea what it is for. Is it an entire skin for the Ranger, or is one skin just a part of the ranger, like for his body suit, other is for weapon, other is for helmet etc.?

[radiant sky]

starmail for example is the name of a specific armor of the ranger. (all those names are the names of the exisiting armor-lines in Illuvium.)
But basically the whole ranger will look according to that skin if he wears that armor.

[cinder grove]

Ok, so if someone bought the Starmail armor, he can only buy a Starmail skin for that armor? And when they change the armor to an Impervium armor they will also need to change the skin?

[twin sequoia]

how isn't gonna be the price so low with this big discounts? 35% discount

[twin sequoia]

This can make you sell too cheap, as may be someone already put an order too cheap as in the image I posted.
It is better and easier with the Analytics. Just select a depth of 1 and the fuel you want to sell, and you get the actual cheapest offer(s) (multiplied by x20, you know).
I will add that, if you want to sell 10k and the cheapest offer is 1k, don´t undercut it. Put the same price, or even higher if there is a gap with the next higher sell order. It is better for us all to sell 9k at a higher price than 10k at a lower price. Now people don´t buy because of the price, both price and demand are too low, but because they want to play. So they will pay anyway. If the price is higher, they get less fuel, so they will buy again sooner. That´s a way to increase demand having the same number of people buying.

[warm compass]

Are we not able to sell fuel from megacity? I was able to sell fuel from single plot, but keep having the same error on order creation when trying to sell from megacity.

[radiant sky]

Yea, thats why i Check analytics first as mentioned above.
If you watching the Market everyday for a week or two, you Start seeing sell/buy patterns which probably helps you Find a good price for buying/selling

[radiant sky]

Yes, can't sell fuel from MC's AT the moment

[warm compass]

I once split my megacity quite sometime ago for the sake of selling fuel, but my fuel quantity dropped massively after splitting. Any idea if splitting megacity still causes our fuel quantity to drop?

[wicked horizon]

Can someone point me to the breakdown of available biodata by tier? I know there’s 130 total. Thanks.

[radiant sky]

that's what it says in patchnotes.
If you experience anything different, an ingame bug report would be very much appreciated 🙂

[radiant sky]

It's the same as illuvials

(t0 are not available as biodata)

[wicked horizon]

Thank you! Getting close to finishing a few tiers and wanted to keep tabs on what I’m missing

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[twin sequoia]

I didn´t buy enough xD

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-the-simpsons-at-least-you-tried-fail-failure-gif-7859548

[wide bobcat]

Another Monday...another 9 to 5...Godspeed fellow workaholics!!

[pseudo pulsar]

is it possible to send and receive fuel from tier-1 land with my transducer ?

[radiant sky]

Send from your t1 Land to your Ranger in overworld, yes. (Click your storage UI AT the very top right of your screen and then Click send fuel)

Receive fuel on your t1 Land, no.

[cerulean kettle]

How often are you scraping the info? This is much better to research inventories and determine price points than the DEX UI. Good work!

[past kindle]

Zigzag Pizzazz — Today at 11:11 AM
its live, not scraped, just a different approach that makes it quicker, wallet manager coming soon

[olive abyss]

Is fuel going for a decent price yet?

been leveling up my plot for awhile, its basically maxed out so i want to start trying to recoop by selling fuel

[surreal musk]

very decent price... for buyers 😄
demand grew somewhat for crypton, guess its for funding overworld runs... anyway, well need a lot of new players if we wanna see more demand (also scrapping of that ridicilous DAO ratio would help)

[pseudo pulsar]

would it be more productive to buy t2s over one T3 ?

Buy 4 T-2 for same price as one T-3

[wide bobcat]

Hi Guys, maybe a noob question but once the minting is finished at the Zero point Transducer, where does the skin go to? does it go to our Overworld inventory? I can only see blueprints at the Dex but not the completed mints. or maybe I am missing something here?

[iron laurel]

Do you have your land on a hardware wallet? It goes there.

[wide bobcat]

no hardware wallet, so will it be on the imx wallet?

[twin sequoia]

It will be on the same wallet the plot is

[twin sequoia]

The better is the higher tier you can(like) afford(risk).

[placid finch]

How much are you earning from a t3?

[twin sequoia]

Nothing, as I don´t play to get profit (now), it is not feasible right now. I may sell sometimes small quantities as "part of the gameplay" (I´m a strategy freak, I sometimes buy and sell just for fun), but I prefer to send to my OW account. If I (you) play it is because I think the game/economy will get better and save fuel for future oportunities.

[pseudo pulsar]

If land stays low yet ill end up geting T-2 s that way I can finish off my region list.

[twin sequoia]

There are several T2 very cheap righ now

[pseudo pulsar]

@twin sequoia $200 rang ?

It be nice to have my land pay for travel

[twin sequoia]

That was the price yesterday (~$190). Now, with the drop in ETH, it is ~$175. Mine´s ~$190 but is only half developed (thou probably better than the rest 😉 ). The good one is ~$270 but I think even this is cheap jeje

[dapper mural]

I'm trying to buy my first T1/T2 land, I also played overworld before, which fuel is suited that I get? thanks 🙂

[twin sequoia]

It doesn´t matter much, as you can convert fuels in Zero, but you should know that for OW Crypton is used for travelling.

[dapper mural]

Thank you for this!

[wispy gale]

Dear Zero gamers i have a question i don't i understand how to sell the fuel that i mine in my land?

[waxen turret]

Fuel in balance, how can we sell that?

[waxen turret]

In Illuvidex log in where you bought the land from

[vivid cipher]

The FUEL EXCHANGE is the page you need.

Check out the LEDGER and the ANALYTICS to see the current prices to list at.

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/fuel-exchange?tab=sell

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/fuel-exchange?section=fuel-analytics

[zinc cloak]

Can’t wait to buy T4s at that price.

Might scoop one up then, just to mess around lol

[wary skiff]

Hey, does anyone have a list of all the biodata that can be found? And a list of all the blueprints ?

Thanks 🙂

[wary skiff]

A quick supplementary question: does the energy required for passive generation really work? Will the converter's passive generation run at the maximum rate? Or is it buggy and better to use 3k5 power?

(I need precise information, it changes a lot of things for me!)

[radiant sky]

• you can find biodata of all t1-t5 illuvials (130) (see screenshot below and ignore the t0 illuvials)
• You can find blueprints for each of the drones (4)
• You can find blueprints for each armor line (18)

Armor lines
Tier0

Tier 1

• Shell
• Aeroweave
• Plating

Tier 2

• Starmail
• Neuroplate
• Warframe

Tier 3

• Bioarmor
• Impervium
• Apexguard

Tier 4

• Cybercore
• Plasmaskin
• Aerocloak

Tier 5

• Xenolink
• Scales
• Mantle

[radiant sky]

haven't tried it yet, but i guess so 🙂
Simply remove a couple low powerstations to see if it works.

Super curious, why does it change a lot?

[twin sequoia]

We were talking about T2. If T4 are sold with this price someday I think the game is dead as it meant that nobody play OW or Arena

[twin sequoia]

She want to run a lot of converters with 50% efficiency, so needs lot of power. But it shouldn´t matter much as upgrading power plants from lvl 5 (3.5k) to 6 (4.5) is quite fast and cheap. Even upgrading to lvl 7 (7k) is

[twin sequoia]

I don´t know if the numbers are correct, but passive generation needs less than active convertion. That is for sure as before patch, when there was no info about it, I was surprised that some converters produced passively while not having enough power to convert.

[radiant sky]

yea they basically for freee and instant built and don't take much space if you just care about power.

[twin sequoia]

And the quantity produced is only influenced by efficiency, not power available.

I tried to test that approach with the free plot, but didn´t think it was useful. And may be a future patch would change the behavior, so I stick to the old "high efficiency" method. May be in a T4 it is profitable.

[radiant sky]

Na, t4 you actually need Max efficiency for active conversions

[wary skiff]

Oh, thanks mate. It's perfect 😁

[wary skiff]

Because i have a megacity, and i will try to put all fuel converter (48 of each type) on the same land : my T4.
I'm not sure it's possible, but i will need space optimisation, and power optimisation. Because one power station more can take the place of a converter 🙂

(Tell me if i'm not clear. I know my english is not perfect and you can correct me if i made mistakes 😁)

[wary skiff]

I'm sorry, i didn't understood. Why do you speak about plant ?

[dapper mural]

Quick question guys, trying to buy a T2 land, prioritizing on 2 Crypton and 1 Hyperion (Overworld adventure) is the elements that I have balanced?

Sorry its my first time buying

[radiant sky]

Your english is great, ser. 🙂

Would Love to See a Screenshot of the Final Layout 🙃

[radiant sky]

It's pretty good, yes.
Probably need 1-2 hydrogen converters for the build up Phase, which you can delete again if you are done with Building.

[dapper mural]

Awesome! I finally got my first land and it's tier 2, starting from level 1 now, thank you!

[pseudo pulsar]

@dapper mural nice land