🎮〕illuvium-zero

[small sundial]

Alright thanks
Ill gonna tchek that !

[exotic oar]

Very respectful thank you mate 🙏🏻

[lethal valley]

definetly became a bit more complex but a bit more enjoyable at the same time. nice ^^

[thorny crater]

FINALLY. Been searching on two plots for Ike 3 weeks for the t1s2 armor. I think his skin would look so dope from the pic

Sayyy wahhhh

[jaunty folio]

Hi guys, our illuvium zero is also experiencing lag?! I collect the fuel and go out and come back to the game and everything is there to get

[opal thistle]

It should not, I just transferred some fuel from land and it was all there in OW

[lethal valley]

was population removed? so now structures dont take up space from that?

[radiant sky]

collect fuel from converter or extractor?
I wasn't sure, but i also feel converters had some bugs with passive collecting... thought it was just a brain lag.... but gona pay more attention to it tomorrow.

[radiant sky]

there's still the limit of 202 structures on nexus 9 if it's that what you talking about.

[lethal valley]

202 structures? the land is not that big though

[radiant sky]

i actually have space left to build and got to the limit on all lands...

[lethal valley]

beforre, when i was building a power plant, it would take up population spacee and the nexus would reach its limmit, the ni had to upgrrade the nexus in order to build more

[thorny crater]

I ran out of room on one of my plots

[lethal valley]

oh

[thorny crater]

Another I have more place but can put anything that’s worth while

[lethal valley]

interesting

[thorny crater]

Cant*

[radiant sky]

click build, click structure and then you see on the bottom left:

[lethal valley]

OH
ok? is this for all the structures tho?

[radiant sky]

what do you mean exactly?
You have a limit of 202 structures on your plot and every structure you build counts as 1

[lethal valley]

oh yea thats what i was asking
cause before every structure would take a nnumber of population, no?
and when you reached the nexus population limit, you couldnt build more unless you upgraded thee nexus first. right?

before they didnt count as 1. am i dreaming bad here? 😄

[radiant sky]

yea, every nexus level has it's structure limit, 202 is with nexus lvl 9.
But that didn't really change compared to alpha s1

[radiant sky]

yea, that's a bad dream 😄

[lethal valley]

fml

[twin sequoia]

May be with lvl 1 or 2 converters there is no difference in the info as the numbers are very low, I don´t check that levels jeje. But from lvl 4 onwards it is quite noticable. Both in the convert and the passive generation. The path bonus is below the info windows, the last mini-window. And you can also notice it in the blue and white bars sorrounding the "collect" bonus when changing the bonus.

[mortal bough]

Zero is the most neglected game of all. We profit none and we have the crappiest gameplay. I only enjoyed my land when I felt like I was building something of value. I dont see it anymore, they made the game laggy, annoying, and unprofitable.

[tardy falcon]

I still enjoy playing Zero and Beyond most

I agree it feels neglected. I'd like to see more development with Zero... and a better economy system.

[rich bloom]

is land any worth?

[tardy falcon]

The sun will shine on land again one day

[tall crypt]

Illuvium must buy lands on market. Soon landholders will do a agrupation for demand at law.

[sand radish]

Those % on the scanners are crazy. At 100% efficiency I'm barely finding anything 1/15 tries

[tacit sandal]

i tried to change something in my land lvl201 path bonus 20%, now i can t do anything because where is free i can t build because if i reload plot a plant has spwned..... what can i do??😢

[lethal valley]

tha fact that this has 4 X now is crazy 😄

[thorny crater]

[thorny crater]

It’s a plant queue. Very stupid you just have to keep removing them

My idea. Does change anything but let people change up thier plot and have fun without the plant nightmare

[lethal valley]

guys do i earn 400 ILV if i just produce 30 crypton? is this real?

[thorny crater]

Someone started a plant feed back but it got no traffic. If you hate or like plants I’d recommend adding comments and stuff there to get ppl focused on it. Not a top priority but it is an annoyance.

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1282475730542006323

[thorny crater]

That was for season 1-2 and pre season. Reward paint are in hold

It’s just reward points tho. No way they giving out ilv like that lol

[lethal valley]

ok lol. kinda figured
ok so what do i do with the points?

[thorny crater]

As of now nothing it’s just fun. Season 3 is in hold. Not enough players and bugs in areana.

Next point focus/ilv give away is going to be focused on arena leaderboards

Or that’s what I have been reading

[lethal valley]

ok so me who doesnt play arena... im cooked

[thorny crater]

Same lol

You should have been here for season 2 though

You HAD to play OW and could farm with bits to get points

[lethal valley]

i just didnt have time at all. im so sorry 🥹

[thorny crater]

I feel that OW is very time consuming right now. Check out the reward difference tho.

Season one there was a video that showed ppl how to farm arena survival to get 1 mil points. Bots went crazy.

Season two you had to grind for the points and I more than double ilv but not even half the points lol

[lethal valley]

very interesting

[thorny crater]

So with the lower player count, and the bot aspects. They paused season 3 and want it to focus on arena and not OW. Which I agree with. Arena is where all betting and gamble will happen lol

[lethal valley]

what about zero? 🥹

[thorny crater]

Both counted. Zero was one of my main point getter for season 2

I don’t even have to think about it lol, just get all 3 sets of points every morning by just collecting

[radiant sky]

I wouldn't expect too much for Zero.
Many just started playing the f2p plot when s2 started, they are all ready now so points will be a bit more diluted.
And also the rewards are pretty small for missions/milestones which are divided into all Games and always had a focus on ow
And for getting multipliers or whatever bonuses for owned Land, Zero is missing a representative on Admin Stage and or council.

[thorny crater]

I don’t like arena so very little points came from there for me

[thorny crater]

True. I rather the focus be on arena, then ow, then zero in that order.

Season two I did well bc 1 lower player count so the reward were bigger. And Bots had to be lower cause of arena random fights.

[lethal valley]

guys why are lads so cheap now?

[radiant sky]

i guess because there are numbers out now.
people calculate how much they can earn and since there's not really much revenue they might think it's not wortwhile to wait for better numbers and sell it on floor.

[lethal valley]

ok? why do they think theres not enough value?

[radiant sky]

probably because demand is super low on fuel and with that the prices for the fuels is super low

[lethal valley]

why? dont you need fuel to play overworld?

[radiant sky]

yes

but supply is bigger than demand, and with that fuel prices keep falling

[lethal valley]

ok here are 2 possibilities

1. people just dont wanna pay to play overworld cause theres not enough engagement
2. the fuel cost to play OW is too low
   which one is it?

[thorny crater]

Both

Ow is great at first with the story. It just drops off

Then ow to me takes to long to farm. Then anything after t0 has a lot of player mining’s aka ever action you do cost.

Here is my feed back on it

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1302316206895792218

To me is Dee like the dao revenu comes from microtransaction in the player themselves, where is like it to be in the players sells instead.

Minus Illuvium catches.

In the begining a stage 3 run cost about 10$ not is like .30, but in the begining one rock mine was like .25 per rocks

So I would spent 30min to an hour calculating costs and having to write stuff down, make spreed sheet, etc. it was work/accounting to me not a game lol

[lethal valley]

is this normal? this is like the 3rd time in 1 hour

[thorny crater]

Happens less often now but every now and then it goes crazy.

[lethal valley]

well... seems like im too calm cause the game is trying to compensate the craziness 😄

[lethal valley]

ok?
do you guys think its because andrew left?

[radiant sky]

no

[lethal valley]

then why tho

[radiant sky]

many people with many opinions on why there are not many people playing

but i'm pretty sure it's not because of a single person that left a year ago.

[lethal valley]

but illuvium is not launched

is it? arent we in open beta now?

[lethal valley]

what are those opinions?

a cmon... its not

[radiant sky]

complicated eco, boring game, buggy game, not enough profit possibilities, meh just bad, no airdrop... etc.

[lethal valley]

allright
how are the investors doing? what do they say about this?

[radiant sky]

Idk who bought tokens of all of them 😄

[lethal valley]

but dont they talk about the game?

[radiant sky]

idk mate...
like who is they?

i have some tokens so i'm an investor, but who am i to say my opinion is important 😄

[lethal valley]

like... VC?

[radiant sky]

ah, no... they have no time and no interest to talk trash in social media or discord or whatever 😄

besides they probably wouldn't even know, because it's hard to judge whats wrong if you actually don't play the games.

[lethal valley]

ok thats fair

ehhhh.... i guess...? not sure

thats true but in beta they dont actively promote it but they promote it when its launched

i mean sure
my question here is how hard did it flop compared to other games?

[radiant coral]

but there are things more important than land, like a sale of stickers like beyond

[lethal valley]

ok interesting

[lethal valley]

thats... correct...

[lethal valley]

is it THAT bad though? im kinda clueless but... i can still see a very playable game thats updating from time to time...

[lean bison]

Does Wave 3 includes new missions for Zero too ?

[lethal valley]

wait when did you start playing? like... when did you embark in illuvium?

[celest wagon]

Since the beginning we are just waiting for a miracle with the bull run now

[lethal valley]

ok but wasnt the game in the beginning supposed to be likee... the best AAA crypto gamee out there?
has that changed?

[rose thicket]

we were hoping you will become the ILZ Czar!

[sharp jolt]

With all due respect, you can’t believe all the marketing hype you read. That goes for any game, film, album, celebrity, etc

[lethal valley]

ok? what games are there that are on the blockchain, compete with illuvium and are higher rated than illuvium? lets ask the question like this. maybe i missed some really good games and idek

[sharp jolt]

Depends on your taste and how tolerant of bs you are.

Good games or games on the blockchain. Pick one

[lethal valley]

i didnt say "good". i said "better than illuvium"

i doubt they all suck equally tho

[sharp jolt]

Yea, some are awful while others are pretty bad

Regardless, if you enjoy playing them that’s all that matters

[lethal valley]

ok which ones are awful and which ones are pretty bad?

o boy

[sharp jolt]

L m a o

[lethal valley]

aaaaallright

[sharp jolt]

@lethal valley dude if you enjoy the game keep playing. Do you enjoy it?

Or did the potential profit aspect interest you

[lethal valley]

omg thats not what i wanted to talk about
i was talking about something way different
lets me answer in your language: i enjoy all blockchain games equally bad xD

[sharp jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-akward-the-office-drinking-gif-13718170

[lethal valley]

ok sir

[sharp jolt]

If you prioritize marketplace first it’s gonna be a bad time

[thin wolf]

Slowly but surely

[quaint prism]

Is it expected or a bug to research duplicate blueprints? (E.g. have 2x Pho Warframe Stage 1)

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/mandalorian-this-is-the-way-truth-star-wars-gif-19642766

[tardy falcon]

people been finding duplicates... I have also... not supposed to be able to but it's happening

[quaint prism]

Okay, thx for info. I'll file bug.

Also do you know if stage 1 bio-data can give stage 2 / stage 3 bps?

[mint blaze]

Is there gonna be a s3 ad?

[mortal bough]

Going to be selling 4 T2 lands that are maxed out. 2 of which are diaganol from each other for future megacity planning. 500usd or eth equivalent each, DM me if interested.

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[midnight prawn]

anyone else have that bug that when you try to build something it gets a error message and need to reload the plot, then after reload theres plants everywhere so you cant build. Same error happens when I harvest the plants and try to build again...?

[pseudo pulsar]

Whats the trick to finding blue prints

[radiant sky]

as far as i know it's supposed to happen.

[radiant sky]

please keep that kinda stuff in #🛒〕land-dex

[radiant sky]

there's something like an imaginary plant storage if they have no space to spawn.
As soon as you make place to spawn, they do you just can't see it before reloading plot.
To resolve it, you need to keep clearing those plants until all that "storage" is empty.

[midnight prawn]

ok ty

[tardy falcon]

Ahh okayy
Do we know how many t5 s3 bps there are total supply?

[radiant sky]

no we don't

not many probably

[tardy falcon]

What’s ur guess of each?

[radiant sky]

i guess there are many t5s3 not even found yet

[lusty crag]

Are Megacities finally a thing or still fiction?

[radiant sky]

but i extrapolate that guess based on my own success rate of finding blueprints 😄
maybe i'm just unlucky

[radiant sky]

not a thing yet

[tardy falcon]

Well def… all s2 s3 and the illuvial biodata of those that can’t be found now for sure

[lusty crag]

It was so obvious LOL, what did Kieran say max.4 weeks? He meant I guess 4 years, right?

Its unreal how big they rugged us.

Promoting big time back then around the sale MC and the great usage of it and T5 esport events &co. and in reality - just hot air out of kieran's mouth.

[tardy falcon]

AMA from yesterday he said Mc are in testing phase

[lusty crag]

I mean who cares anyways besides the 1000 players (max) they having.

[sharp jolt]

Glad it will come soon

[lusty crag]

The game is basically dead same as it's liquidity besides the token.

Like who will seriously buy wave 3 from beyond d1sks? Cosindering the amount of burned hands in the other waves.
No value appreciation nor any love from the team.

To bring it on Opensea or whatsover

[radiant sky]

i actually think beyond disk will sell pretty good with the new incentives

[lusty crag]

Oh well, many will be surprised that these "rewards" they called them in wave1 / wave2 are worth NOTHING.

Like empty promises as well. Like what happend to the emote d1sks exclusive for wave1 alpha d1sks.
Been a while since I heard from that something.

[radiant sky]

you saw the wave leaderboard?

[sharp jolt]

They’ll probably sell well, but only to the most loyal people

[lusty crag]

Yeah "most loyal" - core contribuitors who will pretend to put a lot of money into it when in reality the money comes from Illuvium Labs.

So basically from the left pocket into the right pocket.

I mean has anyone legit sold his land or some beyond pictures for some money besides a few 100$? I do not think so.

[sharp jolt]

Has that happened before with this project or something? I’m not doubting you just curious since I’m fairly new

[lusty crag]

Yeah keep your hands off. Been here for over 2 years and invested 6 figures which I kinda can forget about.
So I wouldn't invest not a single $ into this project anymore.
Espically with it's leadership aka Kieran "big mouth".

[sharp jolt]

Damn man..I’m sorry

[lusty crag]

Nah don't be I was blinded by his marketing skills but didnt realise that this was about it what he's good at.

It doesn't hurt me as much as others who invested life changing money for them (my guesses) and prob. won't see there money back either from Illuvium land, beyondd & co.

But still 6 figures are a big chunk of money. So yeah kinda sucks not being able to at least get half my money back since the market has literally 0 liquidity since launch of beyond.

Don't get me started on Illuvium Land, biggest rug I have been part of (in crypto since 2017).

[lusty crag]

Disclaimer: My personal opinion "it was not a RUG like RUG" thats just what it feels like to myself since I put around 250k € into land and none of it is either liquid nor are my Megacities working. (3 out of 3)

Another 250k€ into beyond. So yeah a total of half a milion is quite a lot. But well Kieran is great at marketing and I have belived in the teams vision that they will suceed in it for way to long.
The failure is / was in there perfectionism (in my personal opinion).

[wicked horizon]

yeah i can't imagine many people buying into wave 3, which might signal the end. but ill keep playing for fun in the meantime

[sharp jolt]

Of course they did. I imagine they’ll sell all.

But it’s also the same few people buying a ton

So it’s new blood buying these?

They’ll definitely sell out though

What would that mean for Illuvium?

[vivid cipher]

This is a pretty wild accusation to make. I’ve seen a lot of things said in this discord but this feels new to me. What sort proof to you have to back up this claim?

[sharp jolt]

Is there anywhere I could read what happened with SILV? Wasn’t here when that happened

[vivid cipher]

Yall should move to an appropriate channel to discuss #🎮〕illuvium-beyond

If you want to check actual revenue just do so and don’t make stuff up. The addresses are pinned here. #🥩〕staking message

I had actually checked the eth balances a few days ago. There’s probably been close to 10eth in revenue from beyond sales and the third party trading fees since then.

[vivid cipher]

Yeah. It’ll be in the announcements. I’ll find it for you.

[sharp jolt]

Thank you

[vivid cipher]

Pretty much the full postmortem rundown here. #📣〕announcements message

[sharp jolt]

Appreciate you

[signal jewel]

Hello, is there a further Explanation on how this works:

IZ Blueprints are now consumables. As per IIP-70, these are now one-time-use items that, when found in IZ, can be reminted by Landholders.

[gritty saddle]

What exactly are megacities? I hear you guys mention them a lot, but have no clue since apparently it's nonfunctional

[mortal bough]

2x2 or 3x3 lands sowed together into one

Big shocker here, no dms

[gritty saddle]

Huh, and they are predetermined, or you create one by just owning a 2x2?

[lethal valley]

yea, you can create one, but the lands must be adjacent to each other

[gritty saddle]

I assume arranged in a square, not just a line, right?

[lethal valley]

im not sure about this
@radiant sky please honor us

[radiant sky]

yes, in a square

[gritty saddle]

And there is currently no benefit, but what are they supposed to be eventually?

[radiant sky]

?zero-megacity

[lethal wyvern]

What are megacities in Illuvium: Zero?

Megacities allow adjacent plots that make up a 2x2 or 3x3 square to be combined to form one larger plot.

The expected benefits of a mega-city are:

• the ability to share landmark bonuses between plots,
• the ability to share resources between plots with no transfer cost (in either time or resources)
• the ability to share support buildings like the Engineering Lab resulting in increased available space.

Megacities are not currently available in Illuvium: Zero and a specific date for their implementation has not been announced.

[lethal valley]

there is
landmarks apply to all lands in the megacity and you only need to build 1 nexus and 1 of the other important structures

[lethal valley]

can anyonee use this commands?

[radiant sky]

yes, you should be able to

try it 🙂

[lethal valley]

?zero-megacity

[lethal wyvern]

What are megacities in Illuvium: Zero?

Megacities allow adjacent plots that make up a 2x2 or 3x3 square to be combined to form one larger plot.

The expected benefits of a mega-city are:

• the ability to share landmark bonuses between plots,
• the ability to share resources between plots with no transfer cost (in either time or resources)
• the ability to share support buildings like the Engineering Lab resulting in increased available space.

Megacities are not currently available in Illuvium: Zero and a specific date for their implementation has not been announced.

[lethal valley]

ouuuu. i feel important now

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/good-job-gif-14121539344197617839

[lethal valley]

where do i find the list with all these commands?

[radiant sky]

don't think there's a public available list.
have to search it myself tbh.

tell you if i find it again and is a public sheet

[rose thicket]

maybe our ILZ NFT junk bonds will play out before SOL turns ETH’s lights out. drill baby drill you degen pack openers!

[lethal valley]

can you translate this? i really want to understand xD im just a pleb

[rose thicket]

Service debt forgiveness…same as the Land sale? Over/Under Wen does W3 5% get processed for the bond holders?

[rose thicket]

Landholders need ILV to start generating revenue so we start generating yield on fuel sales. The entire ETH ecosystem and capital (TVL) is collapsing into the Solana Network at record pace including all of the NFT volume. The tipping point has already happened on almost all metrics and EVM is dying as an L1 that secures IMX’s transactions.

[lethal valley]

excuse me. this is too advanced for me
i go play tetris

or sell my land and buy solana with the money xD

[rose thicket]

yes, get you a 2.5x SOL perp on JUP and you can buy yourself 10x the ILZ plots by the EOY.

[lethal valley]

JLP yea? im going right NOW

[rose thicket]

jup(dot)ag/perps

[lethal valley]

i was joking but actually i have more money in solana than ethereum anyways
im actually very happy right now ^^

[rose thicket]

I was stupid enough to take some of my perp profits and buy an ILZ MC prior to mainnet alongside some T3s. So do not listen to me!

[lethal valley]

dont listen to me either, you got much more money than me anyway xD

[rose thicket]

Follow this guy...he is absolutely crushing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyXQQM9xhb0

[vivid cipher]

sILV2 is never an option for the secondary market. (Because it’s like a gift card)

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/beyond/d1sks/mint

That’s the initial sales page

[rose thicket]

Thanks for the clarification. Burst my bubble, hoping that sILV2 was not an option for the primary market (initial sale).

[kind wave]

how do i get the fuel in my zero game into my imx wallet??? i can't use my fuel to sell in illuvidex or to use for travel in OW. how do i use it?

[sage bough]

I'm up to 24 Tier 1 Illuvials, not sure if that's all of them. I gather there are no Tier 2 Illuvials? At least none that I've found on my F2P plot, my level 2 scanners have been coming up empty. I do have Tier 3 Illuvials on my F2P so I think I'm going to upgrade my scanners again to start scanning at Tier 3.

Still missing some T1s so there are more than 24.

[sly flame]

Is there an optimal t1 layout? My converters max out at 130% right now, doesn’t matter where I position them.. do I need way more power plants?

[vivid cipher]

Need more power stations

[kind wave]

Awesome. Thank you! So if inwant to sell it, i would send it to OW and then sell it from there on fuel exchange? Because i cant sell it directly from mobile

[low river]

Can Winq be accessed via scanning? I can't find it and I own a Brightland steppes land.

[low river]

Same here, for 4 or 5 years.

[urban dome]

Hey whuttup fam! You guys starting to make any decent money mining fuels?

[lusty crag]

Well core contributors are getting paid quite nicely, well they might take some of there private money as well but cmon let’s be honest - who would seriously add some more private money into this none liquid project and it’s NFT.

[lusty crag]

You wasn’t the only one who fell for the great marketing and got big time disappointed.

[vivid wharf]

Are blueprints mintable yet? Not yet right?

[feral tulip]

Please Help!! I don’t understand it. I haven’t found any Biodata for about two weeks now. I have the maximum number of Singularity Scanners, and they’re at level two. Before, I used to find something at least every two days, but this way, it’s no fun. Was something changed by the team, or is this a bug?

[thorny crater]

They are rare, in the beginning july25 until the first update they got handed out lot hot cakes. But it was flooding the system. Now they are rare like counter strike knives….well not that rare but closer to it for sure

[thorny crater]

Nope

[thorny crater]

Ever since the update there has been additional bugs. Some like rai ithink books has gotten

[rose thicket]

Maybe not knives, but great sinks for your time, resources, and affection for ILZ

[thorny crater]

Exactly I want them to become even more rare. Where the player has two choices to focus on:

1. use crap ton of fuel for BPs with very little successes
2. aim for fuel sales or fuel use in OW. Or the new feature like gym focus.

[rose thicket]

we are aligned with the same strategy...burn, baby, burn that fuel!

anybody have an educated guess as to what % of the initial 20,000 plots are actively being managed at this point? A future forecast of the supply of fuel being generated on a daily basis?

[radiant sky]

I'm not a Fan of the focus thing.
If they keep it Like that, Zero will always be boring, even if they add 20 new features. Instead give them the choice to be active in multiple sub economies, so Players have something to do.

[thorny crater]

I can see your point. And true.

Maybe if they could create “classes” of BPs in the future. These today that we get could be the OG ones. Then “next batch” Will have common, rare, etc to a top level of exotic or black market or something. Then those could be the extra hard to get.

[spiral turtle]

Sorry just getting caught up to speed here but when Mega Cities are fully implemented and say you have a 2x2 Plot. Will all 4 plots be visible on 1 screen? Meaning we wont have to switch between plots anymore?

[vivid cipher]

So you are saying that people that get paid to do a job are only pretending to want to use that money to pay for things when they actually use that money to pay for things.

This seems like a stretch.
Individuals simply get to use their disposable income as they see fit.

You also fail to provide any proof that this is even a significant portion of illuvium sales. Just conjecture used as evidence.

I believe it’s still 100+

[sharp jolt]

No one in crypto would be that dastardly!

In my eyes?

Finding ways to milk the existing whales.

Which I guess pays off

It a shame since they could have made at least one phenomenal game with all the money spent.

Gotta focus on the gameplay and THEN the microtransactions (if you really need to). Not the other way around lol

[tribal blaze]

I think Kieran basically admitted this flat out in a recent town hall

But don’t think that “excuse” works well for zero. The artwork isn’t exactly jaw dropping, and there isn’t even really a semblance of a game

In fact, they basically now have to undo or redo all the graphic work to lower them to make overworld and arena work for mobile or a non high end PC. Ouch city

[rose thicket]

I have always heard that in any industry, you have the top 10% of engineers and then all the rest that are not creatures but just order takers. My guess is Labs hired Grade C engineers/developers that set and took orders. This is most likely the bottleneck and lack of foresight. None of the Bros have any background or perspective outside of building a mobile hamburger app.

We do not know as the DAO due to lack of transparency even though we are the only client of Labs to our knowledge.

LinkedIn tends to correlate with this theory which serves as my basis.

[sharp jolt]

Isn’t this whole thing supposed to be entirely transparent though? Wasn’t that the point of it?

[tribal blaze]

And I mean the game is just boring AF. There’s nothing to do once it’s maxed. I just log in twice a day to collect my shit and move on

[rose thicket]

DAOs are notorious for selling transparency until the token pumps. Then, the founders/insiders close ranks. It is just human nature. Then, the tokens debase, losing their value and bleeding back to Bitcoin. This happened ever since ETH came on the scene. It is becoming a "tell as old as time." The problem now is the entire EVM ecosystem is collapsing into Solana that makes it an extra challenging season.

My guess is that Land was a capital sink to service the staking debt. Everyone in EVM GameFi was doing it at the time. ILZ was in the concept stage and used to get retail to invest alongside the $12-15M from venture capitalists. After the sale, the only had ~$8M worth in ETH proceeds to reallocate to the buildout because $64M of debt financing (staking) was used in the sale (sILV2). This tells me that both the Landholders and ILV holders are likely getting hit by lands non-performance.

Maybe Johnny knows?

[vivid cipher]

Seems like it would have been the first look at a publicly playable proof of concept.

A bit less than what the actually played first alpha was.

[rose thicket]

When was the first ILZ 'playable proof of concept' released? And to whom?

[vivid cipher]

Do you mean like internal team members playing?

I don’t know that

If you mean when did the first land owners play… I’d have to check the announcements. But it’s when all the land owners first got to play. Yes it was significantly after when they said it would be. A thing that’s been talked about at length for years.

[rose thicket]

Yes, I know that is old news, and what was implied in June '22 still has not come to pass. My guess is that the cost to the DAO/Labs is the support base of ~1,000 wallets of any size has contracted down to ~200 wallets as of yesterday over the last 30 months. Meanwhile BTC/SOL daily hit new ATHs and ETH/ILV continue to bleedout. Inability to perform have consequences in the long-term.

[timber sapphire]

I missed out on buying 2 extra t1s at the time. Now im glad i got too greedy 😂

[thorny crater]

Not gunna lie. playing ff16 and devil may cry 5 right now

ff16 graphic requirements are so intense that even on low settings, things go in slow motion while DMC5 i have the highest settings on, and DMC5 looks better with no performances' issues.

that said i rather play ability then all these graphic aspect. I stop ff16 for a bit to play DMC just because the slow motion mad it to easy on hard mode, aka parry timing is not hard at all in slow motion.

[vivid cipher]

RIP SolarStorm

The truest hero.

[ancient panther]

Hey, does anyone know how we level our lands past Level 201?

[vivid cipher]

At this point they don’t go beyond that. Possibly they never will

[ancient panther]

Don’t have a way to earn any more credits

We use to be able to remove the plants growing on our lands to earn more credits…but they took that away from us.

[rose thicket]

Jesse do you have any insight into what the 'game developer' logic is behind capping it at 201?

[lethal valley]

why wouldnt they?

[twin sequoia]

To use the shop to buy credits. Anyway, you get a lot of credits just for the levels and with the credits saved in the F2P land and another one you can buy a second worker for both lands and have enough, or almost enough to buy a third worker. Use the shop just to speed up activities if you think it is worth it (I don´t think it is)

[sonic radish]

Hi guys, do we know when the megacities features will be released?

[lethal valley]

no

[sonic radish]

loud and clear 😅 Thanks Oct

[verbal igloo]

Before the end of the year

[vivid cipher]

I’ve not seen much about it. So not really.

[vivid cipher]

I’ve not seen that it had ever been identified as a significant issue that needs addressed. Feels like an unnecessary side quest at a time when the main quest line is being worked on.

[lethal valley]

no? they were CAPPED. which means WORK has been done to do that. cause before there was no cap

[vivid cipher]

When? That sounds wrong

[lethal valley]

what do you mean? my land was like level 900 before

[vivid cipher]

There was a cap. Many would hit the cap and reset their levels

[lethal valley]

ok whatever
but you said never will. thats pretty different than prioritizing other work

[vivid cipher]

I specifically said “possibly never will”

It’s unknown.

[lethal valley]

allright

[ancient panther]

Pretty sure you were the dude in school that never got invited to the birthday parties. 🥳

[rose thicket]

Given the fuel situation, could the ILZ team consider expanding existing limits on fuel storage until we can reach the new economic model? By doing nothing, it just penalizes landholders in the interim. Would value the core ILZ team pausing long enough to consider this.

[tardy falcon]

I like that idea

Simple but offers choice

Rather than having to send or sell

[rose thicket]

I just put this request in from of the IMC as well. We need to build a mandate for this as this is just common courtesy for what Landholders have and are going through.

I presume it would take someone 3 minutes behind a keyboard to update the variable in the code.

[mortal mural]

That was a way to speed up buildings and test

[languid lynx]

Hello! Does anyone know why T1 and T4 same lvl 6 Hyperion Extractor get T1 -38 and T4-123 Hyperion? Both efficiency 150%

[thorny crater]

The monument

T4 gets 300% bonus or maybe it was 900%

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

900% bonus

@languid lynx

Oops lol

I was right first time 300% 😅

[languid lynx]

Oh thanks! 😊 now I see 👍🏼

It's so hard to play T1 and is no boost % 🙁

[mortal mural]

I’ll have you know that @south mural is respectable member of the community

[thorny crater]

The person who want free stuff is talking crap -_-

[ancient panther]

That’s fine but he made a poorly phrased comment. There are a lot of us..including me who spent over $100,000 on lands..so the least the team can do is continue to give us incentives to earn more credits without extracting even more money from us.

[radiant sky]

You could Start playing the f2p plot.... Thats an additional small amount of free tokens

[viscid bolt]

I just got a biodata called Caradulo which is completely blank. Is this an invisible character?

[iron laurel]

It's bugged. Caradulo is the Water Buffalo in my PFP.

[viscid bolt]

What is PFP?

[iron laurel]

My picture that you see to the left of my name. Profile Picture.

[viscid bolt]

Oh😀

Do you know if having more facts for a biodata makes it more likely to get a blueprint for that biodata?

[worldly flume]

The sell button should not be near mine.
I just sold my crystal extractor

[twin sequoia]

You can build more storage buildings

[twin sequoia]

Theorically yes

[twin sequoia]

Very demanded "feature", it sometimes happen 🙂

[rose thicket]

Capacity is starting to become an issue on my T3s.

[twin sequoia]

I had to upgrade fuel storage to lvl 6 in my T2

[worldly flume]

I wish it didnt

[twin sequoia]

Yes, at current fuel price, definitely it is

In my first T1 also upgraded Crypton and Hyperion storages to lvl 5. I don´t know why Solana storage is 50% more expensive. Perhaps season 3 starts before I get them full. And I don´t know if upgrade sediment excavator at 8, so I only need to enter once a day to get Carbon and extract Crypton. It is already fully developed, just upgrading power stations for "fun".

[ancient panther]

You just proved to everyone what an idiot you really are..thank you for showing your true colors

[rose thicket]

Got L6 X3 for all 3 fuels...funding room for four before purging element converters

[iron laurel]

I got a Geyyser the other day in Scanning and a day or two later I got Fludd.
I thought it was interesting as before they always came in stage order.
Have you guys gotten higher stages first as well? Wondering how often it happens.

[mortal bough]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/account/profile?sort=QuantityWithFeesUSDLatest+asc&listed=true&collection=Land

Nah, I just watched the connecting lands, never listed though.

Make me a reasonable offer and I will accept it.

[tardy falcon]

Question tho....

If we sell our land now, all our bps are lost since we can't mint them yah? 😦

Yah figured, until minting is ready

[hallow dagger]

Hello friends
I have a tier 1 land and when I want to enter the property I can't imx what should I do

[twin sequoia]

Use it to scan and research

[twin sequoia]

Is the addon not working? try to enter first your Illuvium profile: https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/account/profile and then enter the game and it should enter automatically

[rose thicket]

I also have small megas, so I got a '25% booster' carrot. There is no reason to sell into the absolute floor. wave 1-2 found excuses, presume any wave 3 proceeds will take longer than the next season.

[mortal smelt]

Can I get a refund?

Please Kieran u have the most money

[rose thicket]

I find it so off-putting even to be chatting about such a strategy...it feels like Labs is committing self-sabotage by not thinking about its stakeholders. sentiment trending at the bottom.

[mortal smelt]

Refund

I lost too much and need at least 10% back

But it’s ok you want to take from everyone

G my G

Give back you freaking restarts but you can’t cause you caused this whole mess

Thank goodness your middle brother left

[rose thicket]

The free market experiment is terminating...central planners will dictate the 'run and opening fees' moving forward. Price discovery is over, and it never happened due to no liquidity pool and bids/asks never occurred on an NFT store (not a DEX). There are numerous other reasons why fuel never had a chance of reaching a demand/supply equilibrium, and yes demand falling off the cliff because of the 'fun factor' would have eclipsed all previous statements and sabotaged any market dynamics. Bottomline is that Kieran & Central Planners will determine the 'pay to play' and I hope the art is compelling enough for degeners in W3 to take their altcoin profits and go out on the risk curve.

To turn the ship, the best thing I can come up with is reintroducing 'fight for ETH' wagering when Arena is in a playable state and push it into Asia. If I were Kieran I would immediately reallocate resource to translating to Mandarin and getting Arena mobile ASAP. I am hearing through the grapevine that the asset optimization for mobile is about 50% done.

[rose thicket]

what keeps you here?

[lost walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-suspense-eating-popcorn-waiting-to-see-what-happens-gif-4406148464790292148

[rose thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/dogecoin-notkdk3-stonks-crypto-doge-gif-20148669

well your power station strategy has helped accelerate my hoarding habits...I plan to have my finger on the sell button as soon as prices are set...maybe the EVM degen army has one last party in them! DOGE gives me hope!

[rose thicket]

Here is some Saylor HOPIUM for the devastated landholders. *Trying to come up with a catchy acronym for MZGA.

MZGA - Make Zero Gross Again (gross revenue)

[hallow dagger]

Error connecting to Passport? Is this the error that occurs when logging in?

[sharp jolt]

Do you think they will? I’d wager they’ll improve for a little bit

[sharp jolt]

I gotcha. Theoretically, how often do you think they could do a wave or event that targets the whale money like this past wave? That brought in some money

[twilit ibex]

Gems are only like 10% to harvest from plants? They don't drop daily or even after several harvests over several days now.

[radiant sky]

you don't get gems from clearing plants.
You get elements from clearing plants.

[twilit ibex]

Yea that's what I meant to say. So replace gems with elements.....

[iron laurel]

I remember the good old days when plants had coins...

I miss those days.

[twilit ibex]

That's what I'm talking about lol. do they drop anymore?

[twin sequoia]

No, they don´t. That was a feature in alpha to speed up building.

[fierce fern]

I think the reality is that everything failed.

Lets face it. I am very sad about it but what can you do

Its mainly the fault of this beyond shit. Just kidding
But this shit triggers me the most
There we had 3 games, what needed work and they work in this shit just for a few k extra

[radiant sky]

If they don't drop after clearring it would be appreciated if you can fill out an ingame Bug report 🙂

[lethal valley]

hey what changes when a plant grows to maturity?

[jaunty vigil]

Hey, how many Materials lab i can bild and how i can increase the number of this?

[timber sapphire]

5 is max i think

[rose thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/cock-fight-namma-veettu-pillai-kodi-pandem-pandem-kollu-hen-gif-2044224703685810025

I would not pivot, but go straight cockfighting Mandarin MMA-style with Arena and let the Binance pirates get in on the action. See if the crazy Korean perp traders want a piece as well. Hell I would even put CZ's name on the Arena if it made a difference.

[sharp jolt]

So just give up on making a worthwhile game lol

I’m not against it, but the goal should be clear

[rose thicket]

Fulfill the Leviathan's "Fight for ETH" plan. Keep the rest ILV ecosystem, but let this Casino get us out of the cashflow doom loop.

[sharp jolt]

I hear you. Just cater to the sweatiest of degens like BossmanJack

[rose thicket]

No doubt...nobody else is going to spend an hour trying to get funds transferred on EVM into IMX anyway. It is an absolute SHIT experience that I went through once again with friends last night. No wonder fuel is not being bought, people in the U.S. would rather have an Anal Douching than interface with IMX.

[sharp jolt]

Dude exactly.

There are also a lot of bugs and that’s assuming the person loves the gameplay.

At this point I think I’ll need to rob a bank to fund my own “Pokemon for adults” game 😂

[rose thicket]

ICO with DeFi influencers might burn a lot less calories than bank robbing.

[radiant sky]

you get more elements for clearing them

[lethal valley]

elements? dont i get coins tho?

[radiant sky]

no, that was just in alpha

[lethal valley]

now i get elements??? omg

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-gif-9795738

[lethal valley]

https://tenor.com/view/vignesh123-vigneshfisrtgif-yoda123-yodamars-gif-13055175463724769097

[rose thicket]

isn't it a lovely buyer experience? train you in alpha for a strategy to collect data, then 'bait and switch' you with 'mainnet beta' making plants provide you with nothing but annoyance after you exit the early stages of the game. keeps everyone coming back for more pain and agony like @south mural (self-admitted)

[lethal valley]

yea
annyway. did the council propose this thing?
who takes deicions here exactly?

[rose thicket]

IMX is a "zombie' ready to run out of energy from the last set of brains it ate. Its token is headed straight to zero with hyper airdrop raining and transaction fees falling off a cliff.

[rose thicket]

I think it was the economists who left before the last guy was let go about two months into the job...but who knows it is getting really hard to piece together post-Johnny? @minor pagoda could you help us understand the desired delightful customer experience that plants are bringing to ILZ user experience? I do not know one landowner who likes it and its causing all types of stupid bugs to progressing the lands.

enough said

[radiant sky]

plants granting coins was just for speed up purposes, so landowners were able to develop faster, so data could be collected faster.

[rose thicket]

I guess so, and thanks for the insight. Is there any point now that the planetarium and OW dye thing is dead? Why not just kill it or at least put an incentive beyond like L20 to deal with these things.

[radiant sky]

plants were suposed to be included in t he skin creation process, which just got changed lately with a proposal.
I guess they will have other additional purposes in the future.

What bugs exactly?
An ingame bug report would be very much appreciated 🙂

[rose thicket]

i cannot move powerstations on several plots (working community theory it is the spawning of the plants). nobody responds to my ticket submissions.

[radiant sky]

it's not unusual in a citybuilder that there is stuff spawning granting you the very basic ressources if you clear them.
It's a nice thing to have for the early game and also prevents starting people from getting stuck when they built wrong stuff.

[radiant sky]

yea that is a known thing, just keep clearing and you will be able to build again when plants stop respawning.
You encountered other bugs with plants?

[twin sequoia]

A few days ago someone from the team said than in a few day would be a new patch for ILZ and that there was some change about plants.

[rose thicket]

Guess we need smart veterans like you to think about how the plants can be reformed and work with the devs to get a common sense solution.

[rose thicket]

its not building, but an existing power station that i want to move around....

[rose thicket]

thanks for the encouragement

sounds like an ICO opportunity to me!

[radiant sky]

can you link the message?
I'm not aware of a change of the plant system

[rose thicket]

30 seconds to create the meme coin, Solana, AI, and a degen influencer puts you in business

[radiant sky]

mmh haven't encountered such a bug yet.
Make sure to report it

[lyric hamlet]

What is wash trading

[stable minnow]

Did a hotfix go out for blueprints? First Chopin skin across all my plots - only ever got Mozart and Bach before

[radiant sky]

seems like it.
Rich was talking on stream about a zero patch that should have been dropping this week with some fixes.

[radiant sky]

i guess if you sell something with one wallet and buy it with another wallet and repeat.
Then you claim the rewards you got from trading

[sharp jolt]

Straight out of the gacha playbook

[stable minnow]

Oh sweet, that's great!

[sharp jolt]

Why don’t more people do this? I mean, I’m glad they don’t for obvious reasons, but still

[plain hamlet]

There are 20k plot of land and the only bugged one is mine, how come ?? Upgrading, converting, clearing plants nothing works ! Contacted the support heard nothing back. Latest version installed no vpn nothing. Just downloaded the game on another device screen gets stuck on loading plant. Is there actually someone who can help ???

It’s like my 5th time reaching out here

[radiant sky]

#🏃〕off-topic

[rose thicket]

Your not alone my young Jedi...

Dang your qualified for the hyper hampster king of the ring web3 southeast Asia ponzi scheme czar jobafter all!

[plain hamlet]

Who else then, haven’t seen anyone complaining here

[minor pagoda]

👀

its causing all types of stupid bugs to progressing the lands

Not sure if this is true, ask Theodor

could you help us understand the desired delightful customer experience that plants are bringing to ILZ user experience? I do not know one landowner who likes it

If you can prove a substantial portion of the current DAU hate it with a passion then raise an IIP and let's get rid of it. Or what would make plants good in current form? Adding fuel is just incentive, not better design right?

[willow void]

Will the zero missions pay rewards in the future for season 3?

[minor pagoda]

I can assure you there's no deliberate "bait and switch", Alpha was a long time ago, we live in a different world now, some systems get updated sooner and some later

[rose thicket]

Understood. Appreciate your prompt feedback. Trying stir up the creative juices.

[minor pagoda]

I agree the system is ripe for an overhaul/polish session so I get what's being said here

[rose thicket]

I am open/advocate for a practical reform. Given dyes are dead it seems like a review is relevant...it's causing real frustration w/ 10+ plots in late stages of ILZ

[radiant sky]

team is already looking into it

[rose thicket]

@minor pagoda my biggest request is given the econ flux can we work on a pragmatic means to expand fuel storage limits until everything settles? Johnny has a specific technical solution that he believes is built or just adjust the storage plot variables by like 25-50%.

LIKE that skyscraper converter...now your talking!

Could we add a booster if we construct the paths in maze patterns that keep an AI hampster bot contained for a certain period of time? Pacman style maybe with illuvial ghosts chasing him?

[sharp jolt]

Hopefully that guy was banned then.

[radiant sky]

haha, didn't want to get it too off-topic in here, so it was more of a friendly link where you guys could go on about that topic 🙂

[rose thicket]

ILZ has the MOD of the 4 Year Cycle baby!

anybody got the figures on the max fuel output per plot over some period of time? trying to calculate my b/e point after uni-fuel and overlord pricing is implemented 🍷 !

... factor in the 75% pandemic production reduction policy pls!

Awesome! Grok, Gemini, and GPT let me down!

got to add the MC column...coming Q4 26 !

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-timberlake-snl-saturday-night-gif-26491818

[tardy falcon]

I like plants 🌱 nature is good

[rose thicket]

can weed out my plots...free picking season

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-squizz-king-squizz-ilv-gif-21923638

[grand silo]

very nice I have been the same with the drones, how have you gone with the armor blueprints for ramphy?

[lyric hamlet]

What is the current fuel price ?????

[prisma trout]

@south mural
Speak for yourself...lol
I like the idea of expanded storage of fuel

[stable minnow]

Got one armor print for Ramphyre so far

[grand silo]

nice I have a few as well, I might have a crack at drones again been a mish getting them

[stable minnow]

Yeah for real… feels good when you get one though!

[vivid cipher]

Woah woah is that real?!?

[twin sequoia]

No, I´m sorry I cannot. I think it was in this channel, but not sure. He didn´t talk specifically to remove the queue or limit ot a fixed amount, but some change was in the works

I don´t know why sometimes I cannot write or answer in the https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/832955966031003758 channel. Is there some kinf of limitation?

[radiant sky]

Slowmode is activated, so the Chat doesn't get spammed.
It's on all dex channels

[woven tangle]

Help me blow up this tweet maybe we can get Elons attention for Illuvium Zero https://x.com/CryptoDefenseFd/status/1860535088120787382 ps sorry if you cant post links here

Crypto Defense Fund (@CryptoDefenseFd) on X

@elonmusk Elon, you’ve got to check out Illuvium Zero! The Tier 2 land screenshot is there; Tier5 is the max, but Mega Cities are incoming

Twitter · Nov 24, 2024, 4:05 AM

[rose thicket]

Grid out an X if you want the Don of DOGE's precious consciousness

#MZGA Make Zero Gross Again

[rose thicket]

I prefer more Alpha for my Beta Bubbles Busting...when the ILZ unit of account collapses into one and serving as the in-game 'VBUCKS' my guess is BIGGER will be better.

...will show you on the other side of King K's World of Pure Imagination

[sudden zinc]

GM! Is there finally a new Reward Season? 🙏

[radiant sky]

No, not yet.

[fickle shell]

Hi are the blueprints from beta the same from alpha?

[lethal valley]

guys. im a genius. i bought the first worker on the free land

[mortal mural]

T5 S3 finally!!!!!

[cinder fractal]

How many illuvials are there in total I have 85biodata and I didn't find anything recently, maybe I collected all of them?

[grand silo]

very nice been wanting both of those

anyone know how many buildings one needs for for the full 20% efficiency bonus

[lethal valley]

guys if i reset my free land do i get my worker coins back? xD

[cosmic spade]

still no news or updates… IZ is the most frustrating thing in the whole illuvium universe

[mortal mural]

I think it’s a little over 191 conectes building a

How many buildings you got?

[mortal mural]

No, I already tried this lol. Wanted to farm coins. Not possible 🤣

You don’t get your coins back either

[lethal valley]

i just thought the way the guys told me that you get the worker on both lands...
fml...

so now i gotta pay 300 to get the first workerr on my main land?

[mortal mural]

The first worker costs the same on all lands

I think it was 120 coins

400 coins for second worker

[rose thicket]

Sorry, Friends don't tell friends about buying ILV land...what a trajedy. Welcome to the MZGA therapy group.

[lethal valley]

a ok
and then do i have real chances of getting another worker on my main land?
or... u only get coins from leveling up?

[mortal mural]

You can either buy coins or keep leveling up

I got 2 workers in every land expect my t1 and free plot

3 workers on t3 a

Didn’t pay the cons

[lethal valley]

yea but you only get coins by leveling up right?
and leve is capped at 201 so... you dont get coins after that

[mortal mural]

I leveled up on all my lands and bought workers on my higher tiers first

[mortal mural]

Yup no more coins after that

[lethal valley]

yeea s now im level 80 i think. until level 201 do i get enough coins to buy both workes?

[harsh dew]

Is that normal that I can have 2 of the same blueprint ? I thought it was impossible ?

[mortal mural]

I can’t remember the exact amount of coins . But t3 definitely needs 3
Workers. T2 2 workers was more thhan enough.

[mortal mural]

I got several duplicates too. I think it was not intended

[lethal valley]

a yea thats what i was thinking. ok im good then ^^

[mortal mural]

Eventually you max out and I just go in to level up power stations

[grand silo]

192 must be 201 then

[lethal valley]

nice. good ^^

[thorny crater]

It’s a bug. But yes I got some too

Gm

[twin sequoia]

If my eyes are correct, you need 192 buildings. I have a T1 with 193 buildins and 20%. If I disconnect 1, it stays at 20%, if I disconnect 2, it lowers to 19%. May be I didn´t see an already disconnected building and you need 191.

[twin sequoia]

Not for both workers. more or less, you get 1 coin for each XX5 level; 5/10 coins for each XX0 level; 25 coins for ¿each x25? or x50 level and 50 coins for level 200. Not enough for both workers if you didn´t save coins from the free plot.

But, in the end, if I spend $300-400 on a land, I don´t mind spending ~10/20$ to buy coins to speed up the process. With 2 workers you need around 3 months to max extractors and converters (workers building all the time). With 3 workers it is around 2 months. You decide if it pays out. And this is for the 20-22 converters at lvl 6 (the slowest process). If you leave some or all to lvl 5 it is quite faster.

[twin sequoia]

With T2 you can have 3 workers busy as fuel is not a problem but, at actual fuel prices, it is probably better to save the coins.

On my most advanced T1 & T2 I still have a mix of T4-T8. Now getting the minimun to T5 🙂

[mortal mural]

. It’s less than 200 I gots some plots with 20% path with less than 200 buildings. You just have some buildings not connected

[mortal mural]

Corners usually are deceitful. There is always a building not connected

I’m doing it for the satisfaction only too lol

[lyric hamlet]

What are crypton selling for now?

I got like 5k of them

[mortal mural]

You are probably correct . I got more than 195 buildings on all my plots and got almost no space to move around

https://tenor.com/view/mr-meeseeks-rick-and-morty-existence-is-pain-gif-14152479

[opal thistle]

Nop I got the same

[marsh idol]

Is it possible to get stage 2 and 3 blueprints?

[timber sapphire]

Yes

[quaint prism]

Do you know if it's possible to get stage 2 bps from a stage 1 bio-data?

[timber sapphire]

No you will need the stage 2 biodata

[timber glacier]

1 building for the first 1%.
Then +1% for each additional 10 buildings connected to the same piece of road.
So 191 buildings for 20%

[lethal valley]

thak you. this is what i was looking for ^^

[lethal valley]

oh hi. long time non see 😄

[timber glacier]

hello

[mortal mural]

Are you sure about this?

[mortal mural]

I meant I didn’t know blueprints had stages other than stage 1

[timber sapphire]

Well i just send a stage 2

At least for armor. Idk if drones have multiple stages

[glacial frigate]

Hey guys. Do you think IL Zero has potential for revenue generating going forward or is it a bad investment (buy land)?

[mossy latch]

The blueprint is still stage 1 if you look on the purple box around the blue square... The description says stage 2 cause Revo is stage 2 just like I have a Juton BP that says stage 3 but it's really a stage 1 on the purple box

[timber sapphire]

oh ye didnt notice that. then idk

[mossy latch]

Yea all I have ever seen are pictures of stage 1 BPs I am also not convinced all the stages of armour exist, or at least not that I have seen

[rare stream]

Is there any information when the land can be rent?

[knotty blaze]

you can try on lootrush

[mortal mural]

I don’t mean to bother but I see stage 1

[timber sapphire]

ye as i said few messages up, idk

[viscid bolt]

How many biodata are there?

[knotty blaze]

would be good to know

[viscid bolt]

Any estimates?

[knotty blaze]

No clue, I have 9, maybe some can confirm that are more

[mortal mural]

I think I misunderstood the whole thing

[mortal mural]

There should be 130 but there a few lines that are bugged and unavailable right now

[brisk gale]

hi all i am trying illuvium zero ; i have a land plot in metamask which i linked to my passport. when i log in with passport (only option?) i cant see my land pop up.. any1 know what i can do to play? dont want to send the land to a wallet i dont have keys of

oh no i didnt - where can i view the guide?

omg another scammer. reported.

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[tardy falcon]

Have you made a passport account in order to log into illuvium?
You can add you metamask wallet as a secondary wallet in the Illuvidex under account settings

[brisk gale]

yeah i added it. still doesnt show up

oh i added it in passport. lemme check my illuvidex

[brisk gale]

found it

[tardy falcon]

once linked then try again

[brisk gale]

thanks!

[tardy falcon]

see if land shows up

[quartz shell]

Whats the price of a Tier 2 fuel crate, how much should i list for?

[ebon surge]

Hi

Does playing illuvium zero free generate anything? Or at some point they give a plot level1?

[quartz shell]

Buy my plots

[rose thicket]

Mine too

[spiral turtle]

Anyone willing to share a fully built out T1 plot that is fuel collection focused? I'm just returning to the game and sadly uninformed as to how I should approach this. I'm sure there are maybe different opinions so I welcome any input. that is of course unless your information is Top Secret?? 😜

[thorny crater]

I found a Hilde drone!

[minor hazel]

Could easily keep building out more converters to the 36 limit but having 9 spots that can produce and/or convert full fuel at any time is convenient. Also could use some reorganizing but I just don't care enough or have a real need if I'm just sitting at 21 T6 converters plus a full efficiency Scanner/Lab. Leaves me ~6 plant spots but now that I'm finishing the last converters I won't have any need for resources outside my usual collection unless I upgrade the Scan/Lab which is unlikely

[cinder fractal]

How many illuvials are there in total I have 85biodata and I didn't find anything recently, maybe I collected all of them?

[mortal mural]

Mmmm

@radiant sky

Did they add Chopin bps?

[radiant sky]

Seems Like they added both 2 missing drone bp's

[thorny crater]

Ayyyyy I want all the hildes Bps

[timber sapphire]

huh? has there been a patch?

[thorny crater]

No clue but looks like we can get the other two drones now 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-squizz-king-squizz-ilv-gif-21923638

I want squizz is the bizz biodata lol

Dang I have 202 builds but a crap to if room on this t1 lol

[rose thicket]

does this bring about customer satisfaction? would you go out and tell someone about how great of an experience it is to have this limitation on your land?

[mortal mural]

yeaaaa booiiiiiii

im so happy they added the missing drone bps

[vivid cipher]

Hilde is best. I need to start researching more drone skins

[spiral turtle]

Thanks very much for this!

[thorny crater]

Nope. Right now zero is meh even using fuel for ow.

I don’t enjoy arena at all

Ow runs take forever, with the story drop off, and I’ve collected everything, now it’s just nothing to do. Or just gamble my luck to try and get a perfect or near perfect illivials but 45min-1hr of just looking. Going into and running from not need fights….if they take stats away(like being able to see them before catching) I’d just completely stop OW stage1-3 runs. So my play time here is down a lot

Zero- is just a support of the above. Until the top two are a hit, zero will never be a “fully fun” as it currently is. But I log on ever day, twice. To collect.
-with the plant queues it or worth me experimenting moving building in my land. So once it built its staying that way

[thorny crater]

Changed all my research back to drone screen only again.

[thin wolf]

Have people found BP for Pho?

[thorny crater]

Let me check

Ah no. Only T5s bps I have right now is scarbok and now looking for ramphy

To get two scarbok bps, 1 armor q drone took over 2 months of constant researching

[iron laurel]

The only T5 I have found is Rhamphy (no BP yet) but I am pretty sure I saw someone post a Pho on X, just not sure who it was...

[thin wolf]

Ah ok,i just got pho today and want to research BP for her

[tardy falcon]

Oh shit really??

So they def updated biodata

Gotta crank up the scanners again

[iron laurel]

That's awesome Lars! Hope you get the BP soon.
I'm trying to search my poor memory, I am not sure if they got a Pho or the BP for Pho.

[thin wolf]

Yeah have seen a few Drone BP that has not been seen before

[thorny crater]

Oh I got all 3 stages…no BPs tho

[tardy falcon]

Niiice… back to work for my scanners then.

Started heavily shifting towards drone for bps now too

[quartz salmon]

This happened to me as well. @whole spear @vivid cipher is the IZ team aware of this? Seems like a backend issue they could fix pretty easily right?

[tardy falcon]

Anyone confirm if we can get higher stage biodata and bps yet?

[thorny crater]

Not yet last I heard

[harsh dew]

Exited to find this one know that my land is in Taiga Boreal region

[mossy latch]

Lmao, give artwork for stage 1 isn't even done stage 2 and 3 are year 2030 goals 😂😂😂

[tardy falcon]

Well... some people found S2 before... but after a certain patch only S1 and limitied biodata

Like I found a squizz before... but since the patch no squizz line

But maybe now after update maybe possible

[mossy latch]

Ahhh I gotcha, I never saw the pics of S2 yea been waiting on that fire koala 🐨 bio-data

[quartz salmon]

This isn't true guys, I have both S2 and S3 and the pics look great. The only one I have seen without a pic was the S3 bull.

[humble wave]

Hi do you guys use scanners under 100%?

[tardy falcon]

Definitely

I try to stay 80% and above

But yk

[humble wave]

Ty

[vivid cipher]

There are some weird things going on compared to past understandings of how it would work. But the team is getting some significant work done on IZ. Hopefully some things are published on it soon.

[radiant sky]

in past it got communicated that getting blueprint-data duplicates is NOT a bug.

[quartz salmon]

Can you elaborate? What was the reasoning? Maybe I don't understand

[radiant sky]

well in the old system, before the recent proposal it made more sense to get duplicate BP-Data than it does now, since the blueprint data would have been destroyed if you would have minted a blueprint.
I guess it was an oversight or the team just didn't had time yet to deactivate the duplicates for the new system.

[quartz salmon]

My thinking as well

[spiral ravine]

Hi guys, i would like to sell my tier 3 land i bought in 2022. Does it worth to sell it now or is better wait ?

[tardy falcon]

oof... well... prices are about as low as ever so... just bare that in mind

[snow river]

What's the best plan for a tier one. Bps or fuel?

[tardy falcon]

‘Casual fun’

[rose thicket]

DM

[twin sequoia]

At actual fuel price, BPs. Let see if it improves

[quasi hawk]

is there any benefit to buying oand for illuvium zero?

[native lichen]

I heard if we move our land from hot wallet to cold we lose all our biodata and blueprints. Is this still the case and anyone know if this will be fixed? Cheers

[acoustic pike]

what you guys do when your normal resources are all time full ? so there is no mechanismus to sink it right, like convert it into some fuel or else ?

[junior glacier]

Hello, how many illuvials can be found in illuvium zero?

[restive raptor]

When BP will be implement in the game for skin ?

[silk patio]

When s3 of play to airdrop?

[twin sequoia]

The resources are to develop the land itself. If they are no longer needed the storage will be full and there is no need to recollect it.

[cinder fractal]

I reached 85 and I didn't find any new biodata recently, I'm asking every day to see if someone knows how many in total are there, but noone answered

[radiant sky]

Because no one knows which are bugged and which not

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Might help

(Hilde/chopin BP's can now be found)

[thorny crater]

I just search chat and found this less than a minute

[radiant sky]

note that there is no T0 BD to be found

[timber sapphire]

is t2 already fixed?

[radiant sky]

not known... there was a fix for Blueprint-data, maybe Biodata also got fixed.
Haven't seen someone posting screenshots of BD which got buggy in last patch tho

[silk comet]

how do you sell fuel from zero? Do i send it from here?

[quick pivot]

You can sell it on the illuvidex: https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/fuel-exchange

[grand silo]

for anyone wondering about duplicates

[mortal mural]

Noooo my duplicates

Can’t we just keep them?

[cerulean steppe]

This is the wrong fix. Since blueprints are now consumables there is nothing wrong with duplicates.

[mortal mural]

The minted blueprints are consumables

The ones on the plot won’t be consumed

[grand silo]

looks like they are being deleted big waste of scanning if its the case, oh well guess thats beta for you anything can change

[cerulean steppe]

You are right.

[radiant sky]

Why?
They worthless with the new system

[grand silo]

oh well if they are worthless then its free up storage then which is good

[silk comet]

max price is to high? i would have to sell for avg price for it to sell true?

[radiant sky]

you can check the ledger for latest sales, or check out the analytics in the FEX.
You very likely won't sell your fuel for average price.

[strong pewter]

I think that it would be a spectacular flex of @illuviumio interoperable capability if: during a new #Illuvitar wave, any #ILZ biodata you discover or do further research on could result in the corresponding Illuvitar.

[vivid cipher]

It would also ruin the drop rates illuvitars have.

[strong pewter]

How so? The odds of even finding bio data are pretty low, much less one that corresponds to the current set being offered.

Surely they could just tweak the percentages. I’m just saying, I discovered a flare this morning and then was going through my album and was like, “hey I thought I already had a flare”

[vivid cipher]

I do not have any actual data to support this statement. It’s simply that creating magic poof from nothing will certainly impact the drop rate of a thing.

No disks means the Illuvitars get created by magic poof

Maybe it’s not a blocker. But it’s something to consider.

[strong pewter]

It increases Land Value through

Which I know has been a objective

[vivid cipher]

Yes. By reducing the value of the Illuvitars that are minted from disks. By increasing the supply without needing to buy disks to get them.

[mortal mural]

Like a memento 🤣

[spiral ravine]

Why?

[rose thicket]

seeking to sale?

[spiral ravine]

Yeah on the illuvidex

[rose thicket]

send me the link

[radiant sky]

#🛒〕land-dex

[spiral ravine]

Which link?

[spiral ravine]

Which is the best price for a tier 3?

[radiant sky]

You can Check prices on the illuvidex 🙂

[spiral ravine]

Ok but can i increase the medium price? Because i want to sell a land which is at the maximum level of the industrial complex!

[radiant sky]

People can't See what Building Level your Land has on the dex.
Probably best of you advertise it in #🛒〕land-dex with a screenshot

[spiral ravine]

Ok thanks

[tropic saddle]

You need lvl 5 scanners to find the top illuvials, correct? Also, if I don’t start scanning until I have lvl 5 scanners, will I need to find all the lower lvl illuvials first?

[thorny crater]

I been in auto so long I am not sure any more.

But at first if you had a lvl 5 scanner it could grab anything from t5 and below

[radiant sky]

Yes
No

[rose thicket]

anyone know if each plot is capped at 10K fuels currently despite having more storage than those limits?

[vivid cipher]

Not that I’ve ever heard. Is there a reason to think so?

[radiant sky]

there is no 10k cap.
if you experience it, please make an ingame bug report.

[rose thicket]

thanks, I just submitted a report.

[radiant sky]

so you gathered more than 1.5k fuel and it stayed at 10k?

[rose thicket]

yes

[radiant sky]

ok

[rose thicket]

who would be the best contact to escalate? ILZ material bugs like this is crazy. it seems more buggy in general over the last 48 hours.

[radiant sky]

i guess ingame bug report is a good way to start. You can then always attach more in the e-mail.

how much fuel you gathered since it reached 10k?

cause my storages seem to be fine.

[rose thicket]

I just noticed...felt as if I had more than 10k about 6 hours ago

[radiant sky]

I See 🙂

[rose thicket]

do you see only rounded numbers now for your fuel count? when you surpass 10K?

its just inteface issue...

[radiant sky]

yes

[rose thicket]

thanks as always.

[gusty roost]

The app is essentially broken for me. I’ve had the some progress for a week now and when I claim everything it just pops back up. I’ve farmed the same blueprint 4 times. I don’t even know how much fuel I’ve lost

[sage bough]

I THINK there are 99+:

Tier 1 - 36
Tier 2 - ???
Tier 3 - 24
Tier 4 - 21
Tier 5 - 18

Let me know if those numbers look right, I'm only up to 24 so I'm taking a guess here.

[cinder fractal]

I definitely do have some tier2 biodata

[sage bough]

Ahh I haven't pulled any yet. Am up to 24 Tier 1 and I know there are more still.

[thorny crater]

Can no longer get to my get in my t3. It crashes at the loading screen.

I put in a ticket two days ago, it was starting to do it a good bit. This constant crash started this afternoon

[mortal mural]

Mobile?

Try desktop

Some of my plots just won’t load on mobile. But they do on pc

[thorny crater]

Ah I’ll try in the morning

[stable minnow]

This may have been confirmed already, but just got my first Hilde skin ever - so looks like that's fixed

[pearl field]

Hello, can we sell fuel for real money or not again ?

[acoustic pike]

That is really sad 🙂

[vagrant heron]

I want to raid other plots

[fervent hornet]

Hello fellow land owners,

Does anybody know of a good guide to the intricacies of the Biodata/Facts/Blueprints. I feel like I don't quite know what I'm doing and wasting fuel

[sudden zinc]

GM! Short one. I have raised a ticket regarding missing preseason Rewrads 2 months ago.. No answer. Any idea what I can do in addition??? Thanks!

[native lichen]

Hey team, I heard if we move our land from hot wallet to cold we lose all our biodata and blueprints. Is this still the case and anyone know if this will be fixed? Cheers

[worldly flume]

Why are actions not saving after quitting the game?

[native lichen]

I don't know of a good guide. But it does depend on your land plot (t1/t2 etc). But I started off focusing on stage 1 scanners aiming for the 4 or 5 best looking tier 1 illuvials biodata. At times I had excess fuel so whilst waiting for scans I built research labs and singularity scanner, don't forget build/upgrade storage... once I was haply with my tier 1 biodata I took scanner to stage 3 and carried on the same process. What tier land do you have?

[austere tendon]

I've been getting absolutely cooked on my % for blueprints researching. like 60 days in a row trying for grilla and just getting facts, have had 4/5 facts for 3 weeks and today got 5/5. It's crazy tbh

[vivid cipher]

I think server/client mismatches are typically due to dropped connections, internet problems. But support should have a better idea of what it could be

[lost walrus]

Don't you get lower lever BP on higher scanners

[radiant sky]

mmh i remember you asking before, weird there is no answer at all from support.
You checked spam folder?
You played overwrold at that time, or just Zero?

[thorny crater]

Welp still can’t play my t3 on mobile as of yesterday, but I can play it on computer so that’s a plus.

Only need to check it once a day anyway at this point so I’m good. But I feel for those still building

[digital agate]

Wen lands pump? Do something

[humble wave]

Hi I can't exit research lab's without starting research. For example I just watch a biodata and leave with hitting the X button in the right corner -- after that the research started wtf xD is this a known bug ?

[vivid cipher]

It is known

[rotund forum]

Hi, been away couple of weeks, any news on next update release?

[radiant sky]

no news yet

[vestal raft]

A good day, with two new Blueprints 😁

[sudden zinc]

I played only Zero..🤗

[radiant sky]

i have to look it up later after dinner.
But if i remember right, Zero was not part of preseason airdrop, since it was launched into beta at the official launch after both preseasons.
I will come back at you

[spring void]

Been locked out of a land plot for like 4 weeks now cuz of the "loading" issue. Kinda ridiculous. Also no updates in how long? Has zero been forgotten about?

[rotund forum]

Thanks for that not so fantastic news 😅

[fervent hornet]

I have Tier 1. Thank you for your response!

[fervent hornet]

yeah, it is expensive and wasteful for us tier 1s. We just never have quite enough, the % are not in our favor. If only I had a Tier 2 all my problems would be solved!

[fervent hornet]

yes, i have the same problem. I don't even know what it may be researching, or if its like a slot machine that just took my quarter and gave me no spin

[austere tendon]

nah, I have a T2 and im still getting roasted

[sudden zinc]

Thanks! But I can remember there was also for playing zero in beta…. I am curious what outcome is.. many Thanks!!🙏

[radiant sky]

right, i remember now.
There was a launch of the beta during season2 where you were able to earn rewards with missions and milestones.
I remember, that there were no milestones for zero and the missions pretty hard to accomplish since missions were laid out for endgame.

• Are you sure you completed any missions?
• If you got rewards, you should see them in your mainnet passport. You can check it like this:

[bitter phoenix]

Do we know if illuvial burning in skin creation is still happening

[radiant sky]

unknown

[sudden zinc]

Yep, I did check and it showed nothing.. allthough played every day it said no playtime..

[radiant sky]

yea playtime wasn't recorded for preseason 2 since there were no reward points given out for playtime

Did you register your passport for mainnet with the same e-mail you used for testnet?

[sudden zinc]

yep I did... This is also my assumption, that with the change something went wrong.... so then only missing Rewards for pre Season 1, at least a small step forward. Hope you can figure out something...🙏

[radiant sky]

are you sure you are logged into mainnet?
Is there ...sandbox... somewhere in your url?

[native lichen]

That's the theory, but tbh on my stage 3 scanners I've only got tier 3 biodata and stage 4 scanners I've mostly got tier 4 biodata with the odd tier 3.

[native lichen]

Your welcome.

[lost walrus]

ah damn went to high on one of my tier 1 land then with my 2 scanners

[radiant sky]

the level of your scanner determines what tier of biodata you can research.

• LVL 1 scanner: T1 biodata
• LVL 2 scanner: T1 + T2 Biodata
• LVL 3 scanner: T1-T3 Biodata
• LVL 4 scanner: T1-T4 Biodata
• LVL 5 scanner: T1-T5 Biodata

[native lichen]

Yeah I knew that to be the case... so I got most of the T1 biodata on stg1 scanners and then moved to stage 3 and 4 scanners but have not found 1 lynx at all, and have only got tier 3-4 biodata, which I'm very haply with.

[native lichen]

Yeah I've had the similar getting kukkaraphs last BP. Spent 1 month trying to get it lol. I've moved on to other illuvials BPs and managed to get them all, so luck of the draw I guess 🤔

[tardy falcon]

Been focusing more on Drones... tryna get them Hildes

[radiant sky]

According to info gathered by community members, there are several data missing at the moment. (Patch 1.1.4)

Biodata that can't be found for now:

• squid line (Squizz, Octius, Ophisto)
• lynx lines (All T2 Illvuials (31 BD all together))
• mahmoth line (Mah'mu, Mah'tu, Mah'mut)
• Fennec fox line (Winq, Quinx, Ghazotep)
• Moth line (Ace, Artace, Monarch)
• Kangaroo line (Ti'ru, Tii'ruo, Tibi'Rukko )
• Dropbear line (Chucco, Chukoorl, Chukoondi)
• Red Panda line (Rai, Rai-Lu, Rai-Lee)

Blueprints that can't be found for now:
~~- Hilde

• Chopin~~

Please note, this is not an official statement!
This is just info gathered by community members, by playing the Game Illuvium:Zero

[leaden egret]

Come on team !!
One more land blocked on mobile !
Having 6 lands, first all worked, then 4 worked and 2 didn t launch, then 3 worked and 3 didn t launch…
…now I have only 2 lands working and 4 are blocked !!!!

And even if it works (phone or computer) the game is lagging like never and many bugs are showing when you claim fuel or anything else from structures.

What the hell is going on, you are aware about it from monthes but nothing changes except getting worst.
I m here from the beginning but no body cares once you bought.

Bored about waiting to have something just working well before having any other update.

I m curious to know how many have the same problem than me with crashing game when trying to launch a land.

https://tenor.com/view/hyperventilate-cant-breathe-hyperventilation-sheldon-cooper-gif-3510677630357883825

[tardy falcon]

Make Land Great Again

[native lichen]

No prob, cheers for that. Ones I won't from this are dropbear, moth and squid. Tho I do think state 3 lynx will look sick aswell.

[radiant sky]

Yea, squid Line and dropbear are really what i was looking forward to aswell

[lean bison]

Will season 3 comes this year?

[radiant sky]

Unknown
No date annaunced yet

[celest wagon]

I hope we're not doing all this for nothing.

[tardy falcon]

We are guinea pigs in the matrix

[celest wagon]

great experience thanks illuvium I will never again be fooled by speculation

[tardy falcon]

I'm still looking forward to Zero updates... MC seems near done. Now that Beyond is out maybe we will see a Zero update relatively soon.

@whole spear any idea when a Zero update may be coming?

[vivid cipher]

I think mega cities and blueprints are some of the next updates. When? is the question. Looks like some dev builds for these are in testing

[tardy falcon]

Nice... get me in as a dev build tester 😉

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-catherine-ohara-moira-moira-rose-schitts-creek-gif-15309834975435552120

[rose thicket]

last recorded imc mins indicated end of nov

[vivid cipher]

Cool. I don’t read those

[rose thicket]

did not miss too much. overall, the ilz trend/narrative looks to be sinking even lower

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/bubsy-3d-what-could-possibly-go-wrong-gif-15096554981912876359

[fervent hornet]

looks like it's working

[vivid cipher]

I do not remember seeing many (any) others posting about an issue like this recently

[sudden zinc]

Sandbox!?? I was only one time in Sandbox, I think in 2022 or beginning 2023, never in context with ILV...

There was only one net available, if this was mainnet or testnet I don`t know..

[open stratus]

Did fuel go up yet

[forest ore]

hasn't happened to me yet

[leaden egret]

Lucky guys, it makes really angry cause can t make grow up your lands as fast it should and get such late on them.

[honest orchid]

Hello. New here. I'm thinking of buying a T2 land. I guess the roi right now is years. Not profitable. But I guess if ilv coin goes up, the whole thing goes up, right? Anyway, is this thing broken? Does it work properly; I read mixed stuff in here. Also is it straightforward to make your buildings optimal or does it need good research;

[forest ore]

Let's think it through, so if ILV goes up, will that make people want to play the game more so they can earn more ILV?

[honest orchid]

I guess when the whole p2e game narrative strikes again, the whole sector will gain popularity again and the big old players like ilv will be benefited . I don't know

It will strike again and opportunities will rise. I am just not sure if the old games are going to be there or if the opportunities are only on new stuff

[mortal mural]

i got three armor names missing, does anybody knows which ones?

[radiant sky]

haha no, the testenvironment was called sandbox.
Not the other Web 3 project.
You should be fine, i can't even loginto sandbox anymore.

So i guess it's likely the problem that your mainnet account didn't got the data from your testnet account.
This happened due to customers using another e-mail for mainnet than they used for testnet. ( There might be other problems, but i haven't heared of them yet.)
Really looks like you have to settle this with the support.

[radiant sky]

most likely the t5 suits...

• Mantle
• Scales
• Xenolink

[mortal mural]

TY!

w8. some armors are t5 exlusives?

[radiant sky]

what do you mean exactly?

Armors and weapons are divided into tiers like the Illuvials.
You have 3 Armor-lines each tier and each of those 3 armor-lines has 3 stages.

A blueprint allows you to craft a skin onto a specific armor line.

[mortal mural]

do you have the group for each armor line?

[radiant sky]

what do you mean with group exactly?

here you see for example the T5 Armor Xenolink... Stage 1, 2 and 3

[mortal mural]

armors are helmet , chest and pants?

my english today is extremely bad. i have days like that lol

[radiant sky]

Armor is basically everything except helmet and pants.
Like chest, boots, shoulders etc. those are all included in the armor.

sorry... looks like helmet is included aswell...

[mortal mural]

so like if have a Bioarmor blueprint. its the whole thing?

i thought bioarmor was only chest and shell was maybe the helmet

[radiant sky]

here you see the latest leaks of different armor skins... maybe that explains it better
#💥〕leaks-discussion message

[mortal mural]

i look into it

[radiant sky]

yes

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-sungwon-cho-prozd-i-get-it-now-it-adds-up-gif-25855630

so we got 15!!!! different skins for each biodata????

[radiant sky]

but... there is some riddle talk in meeting notes from nov 11 2024

Idk what they actually talking about but seems there might be changes to the system.

[radiant sky]

15 different armor skins... plus the 4 drones.

[mortal mural]

oh wow, i didnt know that. why are they making so many skins? we could do just 5 it would have been ok.

@radiant sky one more, do you know which armors belong to each tier? i want make my excel right.

[radiant sky]

Tier 1

• Shell
• Aeroweave
• Plating

Tier 2

• Starmail
• Neuroplate
• Warframe

Tier 3

• Bioarmor
• Impervium
• Apexguard

Tier 4

• Cybercore
• Plasmaskin
• Aerocloak

Tier 5

• Xenolink
• Scales
• Mantle

[thorny crater]

t3 still glitch crashes on mobile but went on the computer and got this one BP this morn 🙂

[rotund forum]

I have Squizz on all plots. I think it was very available in the beginning, but the other 2 are indeed MIA. And all the rest you mentioned.

[thorny crater]

i wanta squizz so bad. never go one on any plot

[radiant sky]

Yea, in an earlier patch those were obtainable, as the lynxes. But with this patch they seeme to be gone

[thorny crater]

thanks to you here is where my T2 stands lol will do t3 later.

i have more Biodata but no BPs for them. will do those later too lol

no clue what you getfrom saying that but web 2 disagrees. its all 0 and 1 s yet poeple still buy these

[thorny crater]

True. It’s not bps then lol it’s the game itself

More spending today but that guild of gaurdaians game has it going on

I hope the make that beyond game in mobile. I thought illuvium zero was crashing on me bc I didn’t have the most update to date one

While doing so I saw gods unchained mobile version. I tried it and it’s pretty freakin cool

True. Some people said it’s in alpha and I kinda agree lol

[celest wagon]

Without a drastic change all the Assets will fall to zero it is already almost the case I hope that arena will bring some people

Before making plushies and skins you need a player who likes to play

[thorny crater]

Thanks cool I’m trying to learn it cause I loved yugioh, but after the tutorial it kind just puts you on your own lol

[thorny crater]

Been saying that since July 25. Majority of this chat only cared about ROI instead of customer experience/satifaction.

Greed destroys everything

[celest wagon]

IThe real thing that scares me is Arena (TFT) this game I don't have the impression that people like this kind of game...

[thorny crater]

We what do you want a player base or talks of they promised (_ ___)

Only promises in this world is death and taxes lol

[celest wagon]

Ascendant I like but Gauntlet 😮‍💨

[thorny crater]

I grew up on Pokémon. OW is super fun there is just no story, past the tutorial anyway.

This need other mechs too I think depending on how “multiplier” the game is/will become. Still curious if the direction but I can say that I don’t like IIPs anymore

It just reminds me of what a full democracy would be like.

But I hope I’m wrong and it works out for the ROI crowds and the players who like having fun

[radiant sky]

i like illuvials

way more than pokemon

no i don't think so with the state of the games, even if they know about illuvium and like the illuvials.

i just said no

lol

[vestal raft]

On the IlluviDex (and in OW) there is actually 18 Suits (including T0) currently. But not sure if there is actually Skins for Battlesuit, Exosuit and Hexasuit.

I really really hope they will reduce the number of different Suit Line's. It's way to complicated, and with the other changes to Blueprints I think it will also be a sensible thing to look at now. (the challenge which is highlighted for the Beyond rewards is just one example of where the current system make is unnecessarily complex). I made a feedback post awhile back on this topic as well. 🙂

[radiant sky]

i am disagreeing

you say it's because nobody likes illuvials and because everythings shit.
I say they likeability of illuvials isn't the problem, but rather the state the games are in.
Nobody plays a game for long time if it crashes multiple times in 1-2hours or is unbalanced to hell.

[radiant sky]

yea, you can't find t0 Biodata

[fleet ridge]

I think a lot of people like the Illuvials. In terms of OW there is just no game loop right now or a real goal. In Pokemon you started catching your Pokemon as well. But in order to progress, you need to beat gym leaders, unlock new Zones etc.

You had the "big" goal of becoming the best. There is nothing like that in Overworld right now

[thorny crater]

I like OW. Just no story, or mech. Once you get them all…then what? That’s the issue to me…and I want that story I was hooked lol

https://tenor.com/view/vueltas-dar-gif-22922863

[radiant sky]

Most people who who tried it don't even know that it's cheap to play now... not even all people active right now knows.

Then you are super lucky or i guess it's more that you actually don't play according to all your comments...

I have never seen someone saying " i don't like the illuvials" but many people arguing about many other things which they don't like or which make them not play the games at all.
For example in my gamer cyrcle everyone likes the illuvials, but noone plays the game at all because of different reasons, is it the stability, the state of the games, lack of content, balancing problems etc.

[thorny crater]

I use Solon to see everything in the map cause it’s so cheap 😅

[mortal mural]

thxYOU!

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/appu-appurajosh-gif-21479991

[radiant sky]

not talking about zero, talking about arena and OW crashing, and that happens since a very long time.... revenue/dau wouldn't care about Zero crashing or not.

I don't say crashes is what people holding of, there are many things which could lead to people staying away, crashes being just one part of it for a subset of potential customers.

Lol none of my arguments have any merit... yet you here stating everybody hates illuvials and from all people i know not active in the ip atm everybody loves them, not a single individual said i hate them they are shit i rather like pokemon...

i honestly don't even think you believe it yourself... if Illuvials are just shit and nobody will ever like them, the whole IP is fucked and all assets worth Zero.
You would rather sell and move on.

just trolls would stay

yea, hop into voicechats, read other channels... everybody is crashing except you mate 🙂

[celest wagon]

I don't agree with you halfway lol the only thing that makes me stay in illuvium is the illuvials we just need a good game to use them now

@radiant sky I would like to have your opinion on Gauntlet, do you think this game can make illuvium a success?

[radiant sky]

you don't have to own land to build plots, just paly the f2p plot... can reset it again and start new.

[thorny crater]

i really did focus a lot on drones lol. my T3

[celest wagon]

Last plan hoped that the new TFT will bring people

[radiant sky]

how can you expect selling it for more than you paid if everything is shit and the game is dead.

Look, it looks like you like to argue, i like that too nothing wrong with that.
It's also fine to express frustration here and there.
But greeting every newcomer which is interested in what is going on with a super negative attitude and words like game is shit, nobody likes the IP, eco is dead and no game ever recovers from a failed launch except some special snowflakes doesn't help to bring new people into the ecosystem to make their own experience with the IP.
I'm not telling you should shill it everywhere, but some kind of objective opinion, explaining risks etc. would be the more suited way imo, especially if you are interested in the IP actually growing.

[celest wagon]

let's stay positive we have 8 months to build a new game

[mortal mural]

now it looks nice. imma think if i want different coloours on the armor tiers.

[mortal mural]

lol we can tell.

i need to redo the whole box ticking since i movew around the collumns

im not confident they are reflecting my blueprints correctly

[mortal mural]

how many blueprints you got?

[thorny crater]

um over 40 maybe 50

in OW right now lol give me a bit an ill go look later

[thorny crater]

biodate i got a lot

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/weve-come-a-long-way-thurgood-marshall-saturday-night-live-weve-improved-a-lot-weve-gotten-a-lot-better-gif-25441256

[celest wagon]

I have never been for a dao! following a crazy idea (arron) suits me very well

[thorny crater]

its my first time 🙂

[tardy falcon]

I wouldn't mind if Illuvium wasn't a DAO
But I imagine having a DAO reduces legal burden

[rose thicket]

DAO allows for innovators to raise capital that they otherwise would never merit (no track record or sufficient credit). Think of DAOs as a means for to crowdsource retail and early-stage VCs to try to raise capital that they otherwise could never gain access to and the ability to act as a central bank manipulating the stock and flow of the currency (token).

If one thing does not work, then you "pull a lever" (a variable in the CapEx or capital structure) and move down a different path. This works until confidence plummets or the token enters the death spiral of dilution,

Per 2024 minutes andreview of IIPs Kieran is calling all of the shots now.

[mortal mural]

this is what i got so far

80 out of 130 illuvials biodata. 60 bps in total (i got a little more but i got dupes)

[thorny crater]

t2 -> 15 BPs
t3 -> 34 BPs

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/aplausos-clapped-leonardo-dicaprio-clap-slow-clap-gif-12389001

i wanted a hamster but then i was told they dont live very long.

[lost walrus]

2 tier 1 => 1 BP

[olive crescent]

Hey everyone! Happy thanksgiving to Americans. . . Can anyone suggest a player guide for Zero?

I have been playing some lands but have some noob questions. I've been collecting these blueprints but..... what do I do with them?

Is anyone buying these fules on the Dex? I made some sale orders but they do not sell..?

[opal thistle]

Here is a starter guide for IZ
https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10277336959247-The-starting-Guide-to-Illuvium-Zero

[olive crescent]

Thx m8!

[twin sequoia]

The analytics with depth 1 is faster to get the unit price in $ instead of dividing the hole order

[olive crescent]

This is very helpful, thx m8! Looks like I listed my orders way too high.

[olive crescent]

I just made some new orders. . . Thanks for your comments! This helps me understand better what I am doing .. . .

One more noob question. .. Why can't I move past level 201? Wating for a new update to the game? Waiting to mint bp?

[twin sequoia]

Ummm ... scanning, researching and minting could be a way to increase level from 201 to 301

[sudden zinc]

Thanks! may you can give the support a hint, that they should look for my Ticket...😉

[thorny crater]

Doubt that will ever happen. It’s about coins.

Or if it did happen then you get no coin on lvl ups. Which what’s the point then lol

[mortal mural]

Poor little things

[heady snow]

hi guys.... still new here... is there any guide for how to develope my base in the game?...I am totally confused

[opal thistle]

Here is a starter guide for IZ
https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10277336959247-The-starting-Guide-to-Illuvium-Zero

[radiant sky]

Sure, you have a ticket number you can share?

[thorny crater]

i made my total squizz colors for good luck lol

[mortal mural]

what are the dropdown menus you got on the armor names?

[thorny crater]

Made it into a table. It’s a new feature in google sheets

[mortal mural]

ohhh you added a lookup functions

[thorny crater]

Select non merged rows right click and select create table

Im just play around with it for now, well more tomorrow but it’s pretty neat

[mortal mural]

oh nice

i love learning new stuff on excel

i just found there is a new extraction data from other sheets. thats pretty neat. definitly will apply to work to automatize some stuff

[iron laurel]

A Hilde BP FINALLY!!!!

[stable minnow]

didn't know you could get duplicate blueprints on a single plot? today I learned

[thorn karma]

Hey everyone, anyone have a chart or any data giving any sorta idea on the current ROI?? Thanks in advance guys? 🙏

[native lichen]

Squid and dropper will look sick! I want anything fire. Do you know if they will still have vfx now or in the future? Or just the colored suit like you posted above?

[copper inlet]

just a small issue (not intended), will be fixed soon, you can remove one to free-up the space for others

[mortal mural]

Finally , only squid line missing!!

[stable minnow]

Anyone got a squizz line bio since the patch?

[subtle frost]

By the way how do you make skins. Do you have to find research materials 4 times to get a drone skin or armour skin?

I keep getting facts

These are the biodata from singularity scan.

How to get skins for armour and drone

Also when should I upgrade my material lab

[thorny crater]

not active yet

[hexed abyss]

Reported the slow plot change bug again. Sometimes 2 seconds sometimes Iafter a minute I have to kill the task.... Also the problem of claiming passive fuel/resourse shows full icon above again 2 seconds later .The previous version actually worked - why can't we just role back??

[spiral ravine]

Hi guys how can i decide which is the best price to sell my tier 3?

[mortal mural]

Research lab the bio data

[spiral tangle]

What's the current feeling about Zero as far as whether or not it's going to be profitable at all now or in the future? I am trying to decide if I should sell my land or stick it out. Just looking for advice from the community as I've not been keeping up with the sentiment of others.

[plush herald]

Can you share your file ?

[mortal mural]

of course lemme update the one i was sharing

[plush herald]

Thx bro

[mortal mural]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ikWxzD3yrJe9gRZiSnKCAlGfX82nUIVOAlvWiJYRJDc/edit?usp=sharing

lemme know if you can open and make a copy

[plush herald]

Its good thx you

[timber sapphire]

Around 100 years

I think @thorny crater did some calculations

[mortal mural]

but for realz i wouldnt recommend zero to anyone as an investment

[timber sapphire]

No not anymore

[mortal mural]

i just tell them to buy some ILV if they want some exposure to the project

[timber sapphire]

I was mainly gonna use it for overworld myself but they gutted that too with the fuel nerf

[mortal mural]

i was in for the investment at first. now its just a hobby to collect things.

[timber sapphire]

Ye all we can do for now

[thorny crater]

It’s not good

I didn’t lol up todays fuel prices but guess they would be lower

Here is the full picture of this T3 plot.
Im BP focused

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[timber sapphire]

150 years

[thorny crater]

BUT I paid 3k for this t3….i could buy like 2-3 of them now haha

[timber sapphire]

I was only off by 50 years lol

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/back-in-my-day-silent-generation-boomer-lead-paint-stare-gif-18034920414363098848

[timber sapphire]

Ye 75% nerf was rough for landprices

[thorny crater]

True true. I just want to use the fuel in OW. Glad I can but not one of my plots has gotten max fuel yet

[timber sapphire]

Why not go for maxing first?

[thorny crater]

This t2 fuel focus will be first

They are maxed lol

But the t3 and 1 t2 I have BP focused.
T3 can handle on stop scanning and researching
T2- I have to straigizwd cause I have 3 hyperions -_-…past me made a bad decision in that one lol

[timber sapphire]

Oh damn haha

[thorny crater]

The other 5 are like that above t2

T1s I think i got my first fully maxed site last week…I think

I looked yesterday for land that have at least 1 of every element and fuel.

Non of those are for sell lol

If you take of crypton to 0 there are like 3-4 plots

[tardy falcon]

MLGA

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/make-america-great-again-maga-trump-thumbs-up-trump-great-trump-smile-gif-10285420146100333007

[sudden zinc]

Here we go... I created a new one!!! [Illuvium Support #68649] Preseason 1 Rewards Would be great!! Many Thanks!! 🙏

[mortal mural]

Is there lore about the fuel names?

[thorn karma]

So what are people main reason in playing if not to actually earn? Genuinely curious! I see this to atleast have great potential whether it gets it or not is another thing.

[tardy falcon]

I enjoy just playing the game. Most of us that are in it got in with higher land prices... doesn't make sense to dump them for so low. So IMO everyone is just playing what's available now and waiting till there's more developments with land.

[thorny crater]

I like sim games, and being able to send myself fuel

[prisma swift]

I haven't played Zero in a while on my land. Is there still any reason to do so?

[thorn karma]

Fair I usually love these style games and think just letting the fuel stack my ethereum up over next 4years for next bullrun, not taking profits fully into local currency till end of next bullrun I feel is best way to max the profits

[mortal mural]

I’m just waiting on the day I can raid all your plots

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-elmos-fire-elmo-fire-fire-yas-gif-15688311340577229287

I also like to collect things and optimizing systems

Mainly optimizing systems

Weird hobby but yeah

[serene iris]

Hey @whole spear

Who is best to tag for this very strange issue? Havnt heard back from raising a ticket several days ago

Basically just bought a already developed t4 plot. It has 3 scanners and 5 research labs. So the previous owner was doing a lot of scanning. It has 3 data storage devices so it should be able to hold a lot of biodata.

However it shows the data capacity as 0/0.

To make matters worse, after doing a couple scans myself, it says biodata full. So I can't get rid of or even move the scanners.

Its preventing me from adjusting the whole plot

[tardy falcon]

Yep... just reported a similar bug.
Looks like when you buy a plot that the data bank building gets killed but shouldn't be that way

[serene iris]

I wonder if deleting and rebuilding them would be a quick fix?

Although doesn't the plot have 5 by default?

[tardy falcon]

Well... they are expensive and take a good amount of time to fix... but yah that would be the solution

[serene iris]

Cant move the scanners until I claim the biodata.... cant claim the biodata because the capacity is bugged.... very annoying

[tardy falcon]

just build one new data bank

keep the others till there's a fix

You'll need them eventually anyway

[serene iris]

Good idea thx

[vivid cipher]

What’s the ticket number?

[serene iris]

Thanks Jesse

ticket #68557

[rotund forum]

they must have fixed that finally!

[rotund forum]

would you mind sending me this so I can be lazy? 🤪

[rotund forum]

I have now literally for weeks not found anything on any plot, all are now between 80 and 84 but whatever I found extra on my best plot it is gone now it seems. You hit 80 now and you can really stop scanning.

[steel solstice]

does leveling up your databank increases the succes rate of researching illuvials?

[thorny crater]

Oh it’s @mortal mural who I got the sheets from lol

[rotund forum]

@mortal mural would you mind sending me your excel please?

[mortal mural]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Sure thing

Mine is a little more conservative. But feel free to do whatever once you make a copy

[wheat night]