🎮〕illuvium-zero

[spiral ravine]

08/10/2024 i can see this

[thorny crater]

august 10th lol

[sly flame]

hey all, i was looking to buy land - any pointers on scouting the best plots for sale?

[mortal mural]

Depends what you want it for

Blueprint focus or fuel focus

[sly flame]

What's better? just getting into it

[gloomy saddle]

my land dont exist ?¿?¿

[native lichen]

I've heard his vfx skins look awesome, so am trying to collect them all... just can't seem to find the 3rd Armour. I'd love it if someone could confirm they have all of his BPs? gyro is pretty awesome!

Not even sure if he has a 3rd Armour BP at this stage, esp after so many attemps to find it lol

[mortal mural]

I’ll check which bps I got on kukkaraph

[mortal mural]

I only got Bach drone bp

[thorny crater]

let me check mine

idk if i ever searched him

[bitter phoenix]

any discussions on how a one fuel type would change how zero game play will function?

[tardy falcon]

I hear that Zero will remain the same and when you transfer to OW or sell it all gets converted to one fuel type.

[mortal mural]

I wouldn’t mind. It would make selling a bit faster

I want to buy other stuff with fuel

Like beyond d1sk

Let me do drone runs

[native lichen]

Appreciate it!

[thorny crater]

did not search them much:

[bitter phoenix]

weird though i guess that makes sense in the short term.

[plain hamlet]

Yo guys we can’t convert fuel anymore ?

[grand silo]

fkn drones! I only have 2, so jealous

[fierce pollen]

Can we get an update for this screen please? It is so annoying to click the tiny 'X' in the corner of the screen when scanning for illuvials and researching biodata.

Failed results are a lot more common which means we click the 'X' a hell of a lot more.

Simple QoL feature please - Replace the 'X' for a nice big 'Okay' button in the middle of the screen.

Cheers

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-okay-ok-gif-14870022

[thorny crater]

This is only my t2 as well much more on the t3 lol

[grand silo]

how many on your t3?

[rose thicket]

nobody buying fuel? did illuvihub stop tracking fuel sales? anyone else doing any analytic reporting?

[radiant sky]

Saw worse 😄

[thorny crater]

I put in a bug report about this. Please make another one

I hate it as well, I tried to record it and of course then is where it does do that. But every now and then I’m click for like 1-2 mins. Some times I just close the app and reload lol

But this is only on the iPhone

[rose thicket]

are you storing fuel or playing the BP lottery?

[thorny crater]

Eth went up and I just used all my profits to buy and horde fuel lol

[rose thicket]

wish it was fungible because I have the horde ready for someone in my ILZ storage

[silk patio]

when s3?

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-goku-sj3-gif-26647080

[celest wagon]

+15

[rose thicket]

ILZ devs (if any) seems directionless and incapable of delivering on deadlines. I have "held my tongue" for the last 90 days but IIP-68 combined with the AMA that it will be leveraged for another raise brings everything into question. We have not had a 'burn report' in over 90 days after apologies in the Aug report for delays over 90 days.

[celest wagon]

how awful I spent $15k on several plots of land that are now worth nothing........

you learn quickly in crypto

[thorny crater]

This is what I have saw in every crypto project and exchange since 2021.

This is my gambling lol

[rose thicket]

The 'burn report' is an absolute joke in the first place by any sensible accounting and reporting standards. The DAO should demand GAAP standards adotped immediately. I have raised this to all of the IMC/ICC who the DAO elected. None oppose but nobody seems to have any fortitude to address this ELEPHANT issue. Really naive and juvenile leadership over so much poorly performing capital.

[thorny crater]

I agree but forcing government policies/regulations in the crypto world? I don’t see that happening.

Well for GAAP I think that’s only publicly traded companies? So maybe not forced but still lol

[rose thicket]

well this one DAO has convinced me of the same. my son drew me into this with the landsale and what a lesson to learn the hard way. all kinds of virtuous talk backed by erratic execution.

[rose thicket]

gaap can be adopted by any organization...my firm manages all kinds of nonprofits with small budgets and borads demand this after you have about $25K in annual revenue in the U.S. its like grade school level protection for stakeholders. we make it out to be some big audicious idea that everyone around the world implements for common sense reasons.

if you avoid GAAP if you have something to hide or want to be unaccountable to the stakeholders

[spare veldt]

I just got a duplicate of the same blueprint. Is that expected?

[thorny crater]

I am 100% with you. I just don’t see crypto peeps like following any kind of regulation structure that has a govt involvement.

Or govt inspired programs/methods to success like SBA.govt

[thorny crater]

It happenes

[opal thistle]

Are you sure it is from the same suit or drone?

[thorny crater]

It’s 100% a thing

The first two blues

[spare veldt]

Exact same - Stage 1 Impervium for my Virtuous Zephrlynx

I didn’t think that was supposed to be possible

[thorny crater]

Im gunna sell that extra. Then keep one for skin making.

[rose thicket]

Who has the balls to initiate a VONC on the accounting and financial reporting? Thankfully, I have no ILV, but wish I could get someone who is staked to see the light.

[opal thistle]

Oh daaang .....I didn't know

[opal thistle]

Ah ok did you get it in the same land?

[spare veldt]

Yes - I only scan on my T2

[rose thicket]

yes, I presume the $5k/mo and $3k/mo serves as a nice firewall as well.

per my game theory, best case for us is they dilute the hell out of ILV, find some degen VC firm to supply runway, and we have one last "defi summer" in ETH before it becomes irrelevant and absorbed by Solana. may be able to generate some yield out of fuel adoption and then exit the NFT before the bear market....this is a lot of assumptions that likely will make an ASS out of me.

[rose thicket]

good therapy session and best of luck!

[simple lance]

that happened to me once, and it was the same day. had 5 labs researching simultaneously and 2 gave me the same blueprint.

[celest wagon]

you manage better than me

I don't know what my brain is doing. why did i buy so much land

play you will understand why no one wants to play it's so boring

I hope that with the new updates the game will become interesting for people

[thorny crater]

Thats a fire dupe tho lol

[celest wagon]

it lacks quests it lacks challenges it lacks bosses it lacks leveling

there is a chance that new people will come and reach a new audience

[rose thicket]

Still speculating that land NFTs could end up the cleanest shirt in a really dirty bin of ILV laundry...'first in, first out' mechanic of the system. Per CEXs volume retail is clearly not back into crypto yet, unless DEXs have eaten up all the volume. We need BTC to keep pumping, ETH to wake up for at least 6 months, and for the MeMes to ride. Then hopefully a few of the degens will bring the excesses to the ILV casino and landholders can collect the initial stakes on the table.

[celest wagon]

It depends if there is a complete overhaul with quests, map updates, a new game with the same ipp

[celest wagon]

I hope so much

I became a believer with illuvium

[rose thicket]

i bought 'art' for my kid and an 'entrepreneur lesson'...ILV has given me the lessson!

[celest wagon]

the problem is I bought with speculation but now we have the real prices of land zero$ I have no choice but to wait for the game to be good to attract people

[rose thicket]

rowing in the same boat as you brother

[celest wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/boating-canoeing-cat-gif-14977766

Every morning I pray in front of @bitter glade @noble quest photos, IIknow that we will succeed in bringing players to the game.🙏

[tulip fox]

I just upgraded my Nexus to lvl 9 is that max level for buildings? 😮

[radiant sky]

yes

[heady marten]

Can we mint blueprints yet?

[heady marten]

Can earn some pennies with the game at least

[foggy bison]

Yes, there's that. I finally got my first T1 going (12 L6 fuel converters). I've sold 750 fuel and made $0.36.

[heady marten]

A couple more days for a coffee

[heady marten]

I have 4 t4s so rekt hahahha

[tribal zealot]

double the converters and you'll make .72

https://tenor.com/view/move-marketmove-mm-trending-print-gif-25238306

[past kindle]

Is this a bug? It says +10 but the current output is 23, and the upgrade says it outputs 38...

[errant pollen]

Its been like 10 days with 6 stage5 material labs and still no facts or blueprints, is this normal?

[spiral ravine]

How can a game be produced with this shit? It looks like a scam

[lethal wyvern]

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[amber atlas]

I believe the upgrade screen shows the default output whereas the info screen shows the "actual" which takes in to account effiency, etc.

[rose thicket]

@amber atlas can you give us any context on why we landed on the 19:1 exchange on the Illuvidex? Was this simple adopted to accomodate the NFT store limitations of IMX?

[amber atlas]

It was simply a mechanism to help ensure the 5% revenue target.

If all game revenue comes through Fuel, and the DAO generates 19 Fuel for every 1 land holder fuel then the land holders get ~5% and the dao gets ~95% of all revenue,

(approximate for a number of reasons, not the least of which is some things aren't sold for Fuel... so there would always need to be some payback process also, for example quarterly payouts)

[rose thicket]

why did fuel not become fungible?

[amber atlas]

Fear

I hated that change, the whole magic of Zero to me, was that you could use the in game world to interact with real world markets.

[rose thicket]

totally agreed

fatal flaw and changed the entire nature of the investment for me

[amber atlas]

😒

I fought, I lost.

[rose thicket]

we turned an in-game commodity into a V Bucks voucher...the 19:1 unit of account derviived by the in-game commodity of fuel creates an ever-expanding supply that demand will not catch without mass adoption...really bad for landholders

[amber atlas]

I mean if there isn't demand its still the same... and holders still get 5% of revenue

the payout mechanism just pays out more of a percentage

[rose thicket]

we've not got 5% of Wave 1 or 2 of Beyond...and likely no way to account for Wave 3

[amber atlas]

I don't beleive Beyond was considered game revenue, thats a council decision

[rose thicket]

so the integrity of the system as of the initial landsale has not held.

[rose thicket]

IIP was passed to clarify this point and passed

[amber atlas]

Well then its owed. Unless revenue is diverted by another agreement back to the safety pool.

I don't keep up with IIPs these days although I think ensuring the DAO exists is fairly reasonable use of funds.

But if that IIP was passed then yes land holders should get (5% of) Wave 3 revenue.

[rose thicket]

Nijafe_Plays wrote the IIP after Wave 1 was not paid out. All "in-game digital transactions" are to be paid 5% to landholders

[amber atlas]

Right but that doesn't sound like Beyond at all. Was Beyond explicitly mentioned?

[rose thicket]

Yes, he clarified and referenced it as a cited example.

[amber atlas]

Okay, well then again, unless some other IIP said "funds for Wave 2 go to safety pool" then funds are owed.

[rose thicket]

We were told that Wave 3 would be transacted in Fuel and here we are and it is not

[amber atlas]

Sure but thats separate to the issue of being owed. The "catch-up" payout mechanism for Zero was included in the spec for the Fuel Exhange.

I don't know if it was built (I think it was, but definitely not sure), but if something is owed then it should be paid.

[rose thicket]

what is the most pragmatic and straightforward for this to be resolved with the core team. I mean, it seems Danny & Kieran are the "Trustees" of the DAO.

[amber atlas]

Its best to drive it through a council member.

(which could be Kieran)

Maybe a governance/IIP suggestion?

[rose thicket]

I have collaborated extensively with the current IMC.

Nothing gets done. Nobody can address anything pertaining to "financial" matters. We are 90 days past the last "burn report" and Danny apologized in Aug stating he would supply the DAO on a monthly basis.

[amber atlas]

Clearly define your understanding of what is owed. Raise it formally with an action (do the payout) as the outcome and get it voted on.

I can't imagine you would have any trouble getting 25 upvotes.

[rose thicket]

thanks...wish you the best!

[amber atlas]

Danny's job isn't to decide if people get payouts or not, its to execute in a fiscally responsible and legally compliant manner the financial directives coming from council.

It is his job to prepare the statement, I imagine if they are cutting budget he has been pretty busy, but that is still well overdue by any measure.

[rose thicket]

We should be following some GAAP accounting standards. Not supplying the DAO with a cash flow statement, profit & loss, and balance sheet is absurd. Monthly reconciliation reports from a CFO to the governing body (IMC) would be the minimal standard for any operating entity of over $100K of CapEx outside of crypto.

[grave island]

if not for the art team i would say the same, game is pretty nothing else.

[rose thicket]

last report in AUG: #📣〕announcements message

"...Thank you as always for being part of this journey with us, and we look forward to sharing these reports in a more timely manner. " and nothing since...

[amber atlas]

Sure, I'm not saying thats good, but the vast majority of the data is onchain. When money moves out to fiat its to pay for services and staff, and I haven't checked anything lately but I doubt there's any dramatic change in such movement.

Anyway, I'm not disagreeing, it should be done. I guess I just feel obligated to defend Danny as I know how hard he works.

[rose thicket]

Thanks for the feedback. I have lived in the startup world and know how challenging it is, but never with $50M+ of capital. The sILV debacle hole should have been disclosed with reporting as well and the fact that the Landsale was used to fill this capital extraction (how I interpreted it). It was never reported on and leaves many asking questions now.

[grand silo]

what a mess

[amber atlas]

The sILV debacle hole?

You mean the hack? That was very widely reported and fixed as quickly as it could be.

There wasn't that much value extracted and people were paid back. Very distant past but I think that was handled extremely well.

[rose thicket]

do we have a report on how the compromise impacted the DAO? All I hear from leadership is that the landsale netted the DAO and Labs nothing because of sILV2 use. Well, sILV2 is derived from the compromise of sILV.

[amber atlas]

sILV was replaced with sILV2 beacause o the hack, the utility didn't change at all

[sharp jolt]

“Nothing to worry about, citizen. Please move along”

[amber atlas]

The two things are not related at all, it would have bene an identical situation if land sale used sILV or sILV2.

---

sILV(2) allowed those who staked the token to take rewards earlier than taking out ILV. The penalty being it was primarily an in game token, and tends to trade for less than the value illuvium recognizes it at for in game purchases.

The land sale netted a notable chunk of ETH, but sILV2 made up the majority of the sale. Using sILV2 takes ILV out of supply. It theoretically bouys the token price.

This is all very clear in the whitepaper.

---

The only confusion seems to be it was good from a marketing perspective to quote the total value of the land sale (sILV2 price values at ILV price + ETH).

[grand silo]

all of the above benefited everyone but land owners

[amber atlas]

Land holders didn't exist before the land sale. That makes no sense.

By choosing to purchase you became a land holder. It was up to you what you used to make that purchase.

[grand silo]

spending silv2 was good for ilv

[amber atlas]

I mean if the argument is sILV(2) was a bad idea I don't disagree. But it was an idea clearly communicated in the white paper from day 1. It wasn't like it was added later, or what not.

[rose thicket]

@amber atlas my understanding from your contribution is that sILV was yield paid stakers of ILV. The compromise took place. Therefore, Illuvium invalidated the future use of all sILV. Replacing it with sILV2. Is this the TLDR of how that got reconciled?

[amber atlas]

Yes its the standard response for any token compromise. A snapshot was taken before the compromise and the old state restores using a new token.

[grand silo]

all I know is in comparison to whats been invested in land v where all the attention & resources go, Land owners have been given the raw end of the stick

[amber atlas]

The revenue from land relies on the game doing well.

[rose thicket]

So, the vast majority of the land sale proceeds came from staking ILV w/ ~$8M worth of ETH per reports. The bottom line is the Landsale absorbed the vast amount of financing costs the DAO incurred over the previous 2 years (staking) through selling NFTs in the form of sILV2. Staking for a DAO is essentially "hard money lending" capital from a retail base. This left an additional $8M worth of ETH capital to build out Zero.

[amber atlas]

if the game doesn't do well everyones getting a bad deal.

[grand silo]

all these millions spent someones made some good coin just inst the investors

[amber atlas]

The spending is pretty straight forward and transparent. Staff costs make up the majority. And there is a huge amount of valuable IP that has been made. Unfortunately it can't realise value without being 'done'. 150 amazing animated characters don't do much by themselves, nor does a great game engine without great story/content. If you want to read about what the next plan is go to token chat, Kierans plan looks solid to me.

(which doesn't mean it succeeds, but it has a reasonably chance IMO)

Ultimately everything was predicated on the games having lots of users and making a lot of money. Without that nothing works, an with it everything works.

[grand silo]

problem with any plan Kieran has it just gives one ground hog day vibes. Ive got a list as long as my arm of all the stuff coming, new plans, all sounded like we are on point. Just hard to have faith when we are where we are. All this money spent and we are where we are is beyond me

enough moaning from me

[amber atlas]

I made a brief post about this in token earlier, people seem to forget how much has actually been built. Staking platforms, land sale, merch store, vesting platform, dex, three game engines, discord bots, etc, etc. Not to mention the crazy amout of amazing art. Scale ups are rarely efficient in their allocation of capital, particularly when you scale very fast, but there is still a lot of great stuff that has been done.

Now of course its valid to say "who cares if it doesn't make money/is not enjoyable" but that doesn't mean that the work didn't happen.

[rose thicket]

No doubt. And you were a huge part of it for ILZ. Really helped me with this chat to gain better context / understanding and appreciate it.

[amber atlas]

Anyway I'm going to go do something more relaxing ... maybe skydiving ... 😉

Ciao 👋

[thorny crater]

Got two more today

And my first t5 BP

[rose thicket]

Compromise/Exploit announcement: #📣〕announcements message

[grand silo]

fs I got nothing again

[rose thicket]

sILV exploit cost the DAO at least 335 ETH per disclosure that was FMV ~$3,800 USD at the time. So it was $1,273,000 treasury loss at best.

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/i-aint-no-quitter-vinny-assisted-living-s3e9-i-dont-give-up-gif-25470936

I have auto scan/reserach on now

[gentle grove]

So any word when bps can be minted

[radiant sky]

no date announced yet

[gentle grove]

Good God wasn't it supposed to be already they taking their sweet ass time

[radiant sky]

yes, they were supposed to be live.
I heared the minting build is in qa (can't remember where i heared that, think it was in the latest ama), which means if everything goes perfect it could come soon.
However, the skin creation process is being set up new right now.
So even if blueprint minting will go live in 2 weekish time, you likely wouldn't be able to create the skins.

Just some assumptions from my part as a community member, don't take them as official answer and I appologize for the inconvenience.

[gentle grove]

Not really an inconvenience but annoying since BP might be the only way land makes a dollar

[radiant sky]

i totally understand your frustration

[mortal mortar]

HI, MY KID JUST RESETET PLOT, do I havee to play from begininig? or just sll a land:)?

[plain hamlet]

My fuel converters doesn’t work is it normal or bug ??

[sly flame]

Is there any way to autocollect? Or do i need to keep checking back to collect resources?

[mortal mural]

Don’t work how? Like active conversion? Or passive?

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-skipper-we-need-more-power-more-power-power-gif-22962877

[errant mortar]

How many biodata do you have in total?
I have 84 different bio data but nothing since the last one on Oct 30.
I have 5 scanners in operation at level 5.

[rose thicket]

BPs update referenced in the 10/24 IMC minutes. Perry and Jay appear to be Labs POC on the matter. Minutes read as if there is still quite a process before ready.

[grand silo]

where do I find this please

[wise furnace]

Could someone help me understand, ive built a material lab 3 times and it takes x amount of hours. When i go back to check there's nothing there where i built it and the resources are returned.
Same with a singularity scanner today.

What's the catch?

[radiant sky]

#📰〕governance-news message

watch out for meeting minutes mentioned in this post

[radiant sky]

never heared about it, except it being related to roll backs of your progress.
Make sure to leave an ingame bug report

[wise furnace]

Where can i do that in zero, i barely play it, just casually trying to build everything for future quests

[radiant sky]

click the 3 bars on the very top left and then click report issue und the very bottom right

[wise furnace]

ty!

[turbid storm]

Hello, is it just me or is it normal for every time I get a "Goal Complete " promt, my game freezes for like 4 seconds? It's incredibly annoying. Can I just turn off thst stupid Goal Complete notifications?

[radiant sky]

Happens since last patch, please Make sure to provide feedback with the ingame reporter

[turbid storm]

Override feedback with the in-game reporter?🙋 what does that mean ?

[rose thicket]

it is google drive...see URL in image (Discord will not let me post URL)

[rose thicket]

last referenced on 06/14/2024...great transparency for the community!

[radiant sky]

#📯〕council-chambers message

Seems to be the latest reference

[rose thicket]

Refreshing...keep up the great work on accountability for the IIP violations! Reading through the October minutes brought an old line to mind: O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive...

[radiant sky]

go into the activities tab and cancel the activities

[plain hamlet]

Active conversion doesn’t work, the process start but when it’s time to collect it disappears both my fuel and elements, can’t convert any of them

[plain hamlet]

Active conversion doesn’t work, the process start but when it’s time to collect it disappears both my fuel and elements, can’t convert any of them

[radiant sky]

make sure to report them ingame as a bug.
me personally haven't seen that yet, all conversions seems to work just fine.

[atomic cove]

would be nice if @whole spear could start pinging us in the https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/809220730608680990 when these are updated.

or someone from council, doesn't have to be Rich specifically.

[icy thicket]

Added this to ICC 😀

We plans in place for regular posts in this channel this epoch - (starting Soooooon!)

This will tag the role and each post will most likely have the "Meeting Minutes Link"

I don't think we will be posting everytime the folders are updated, in the efforts to minimize pings to the role

[icy thicket]

Council got eyes everywhere 👀 😆 😂

[radiant sky]

no need to ping if you update the folder every friday, everyone knows on friday he can check 🙃

[icy thicket]

Ideally this would be best... but not always practical

__ ICC Example: __

• Council meetings Monday
• 2 to 3 days approx to clean up meeting minutes
• 2 to 3 days approx to get Council approval & revisions prior to posting
• Rich adds to the shared folder with community

But having a bi-weekly post with reminders = reminders for anyone to go check 😀

__Which do you prefer: __

1️⃣ Posted with individual links - Example:
#📰〕governance-news message

2️⃣ Posted with Consolidated Link / Eas of Access - Example:
#📰〕governance-news message

🚫 Don't care either way

1️⃣ Posted with individual links - Example:

2️⃣ Posted with Consolidated Link / Eas of Access - Example:

Probably be better as POLL 😉 Will discuss tomorrow in meeting - and this prob would have been better posted elsewhere 😉 - Go easy on me MODs lol

[native lichen]

Has anyone here ever found koala line biodata?

[mortal mural]

I haven’t and many other haven’t.

[native lichen]

Cheers, @radiant sky any whispers on when we may see them? Pretty sure we're missing moth line too.

[versed warren]

Well Ive gotten my lands essentially maxed and am at the stage where its kinda boring game

Log on once, tap tap.

[mint blaze]

Will there be Season 3 for zero airdrop?

[radiant sky]

no ser, no whispers yet

[radiant sky]

no details known yet to season3.
it's likely arena heavy

[icy thicket]

Any other lines you that are missing?
Submitting on the weekly questions
@radiant sky - you have a list of other biodatas that people have reported "missing"?
(Corrected some typos)

[acoustic pike]

Why is 201 max level ? And do we know when we can use blueprints ? So far we cant export them to market or overworld

[radiant sky]

i think kangoroo and squid line missing aswell

[icy thicket]

Not sure about Max level...

As for the Blueprints, these will be re-worked with the passing of IIP-70 https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1301940513288486922

The initial plan under an earlier IIP (8 weeks after launch i believe), but this seems to be delayed

Anyone obtained any of these biodatas:

• Winq, Quinx, Gazotep?
• Ace, Monarch, Artace?
• Rai, Rai-Lu, Rai-Lee?
• Chucco, Chukoorl, Chuckoondi?
• Tiru, Ti-Ruo, Ti-Ruuko?
• Mah-mu, Mah-tu, Mah-mut?
• Squizz, Octiux, Ophisto?

[tardy falcon]

So y'all...
What's the current value proposition for land if OW gets shut down for a period of time?

[icy thicket]

Thanks crossed out!

[mint blaze]

I see. So there's a high chance S3 not available for Zero players?

[icy thicket]

Well Zero fuels the ecosystem - so use case for fuel will need to be implemented elsewhere

Plans are/were around d1sk purchases for Beyond

Then fuel be used in the mechanism that "replaces" overworld

[tardy falcon]

But... skins

[icy thicket]

Ranger added to Gauntlet planned?
Drones there also

[tardy falcon]

I just wanna be able to see the skins yk... like why have cool skins if you can't see them

[lyric hamlet]

Anyone making money yet?

[radiant sky]

How you craft them of there's no OW 😄

[native lichen]

Not that I can think of. But I'd love to know if we have all 3 Kukkaraph Armour blueprints available? I've spent maybe 400 fuel researching just trying to get that last BP lol. I have 2 of them.

[tardy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[icy thicket]

Dis one? 😉

Might be possible @native lichen lol

[hot rune]

Hey I came across your mobile game what’s the whole goal of it?

[rotund forum]

no one has. There is a list of the ones unfindable. I´ve reached a point where I can turn off my scanners and save the fuel since until this issue is addressed I won´t be able to find any additional biodata anymore. I´ve been dry for 2+ weeks. Just blueprints now, there are still plenty of those to be found.

[rotund forum]

cents are money so yeah 😅 everytime less though

I don´t know how biodata works in the backend but it almost seems manual sometimes. I found a T5s3 on one plot and I bet on the next plot I would find him too 3 minutes later. And so it was. Only reason I keep scanning so far is waiting they turn the squid on which is the only T5 unfindable.

[silver bluff]

I try to sell crypton on the market, but order stay pending since yesterday ........ is completed in how many time ???

[mortal mural]

I haven’t got that either. As neither others have. I reported it. Feel free to
Report it

[mortal mural]

I suspect that nerf patch did something as I did not get a single lynx after that patch

[keen maple]

Hello guys, how many armor skins can one find for each illuvial? And how many drone skins?

[carmine grotto]

hey guys, is illivium zero going to disapear? if yes, what about landowners?

[keen maple]

Why would it?

[carmine grotto]

I don't kno I just read some comments about OW dissapearing and maybe IZ, so i was trying to find some info

I took a break fromm illuvium and my info is outdated

[keen maple]

I can hardly imagine that to be true

[carmine grotto]

cool

[radiant sky]

4 drone and 15 armor lines each biodata.
But 2 drones are Buggy, so you can just Find Mozart and bach blueprints AT the moment

[keen maple]

15? I think you mean 5?

[lilac sphinx]

Hi ive been away for a long time, it seems like my account is still not connected to a passport, but it has assets in it, how can i make it a passport account? or do i have to transfer my assets to a newly created passport account instead as the only way

[radiant sky]

No ser,
Should be 15, one for each armor Line.
You have 3 armor lines each Tier (T1-T5)

[radiant sky]

https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/6505944164623-Account-Creation

You are probably logged in on testnet?
Or you already created a passport?

[mortal mural]

do you have a list of names of the armor lines?

[dusk siren]

this infinite plant spawning is so annoying

might be time to do the same move as in overworld. Remove all this pain and just give us fuel/blueprint packs

[native lichen]

The one you have is the one I want 😆. Appreciate it dude... about to crank up my research labs again...

[silk patio]

when start season3?

[native lichen]

Yeah I'm doing a bit of the same at the moment, cheers for the info.

[icy thicket]

I think I am going to delete the podarium cause I cannot build anything since a new plant instantly grows

[thin wolf]

Felt good

[subtle laurel]

Finally gota my first armor skin : Rota Armor

[vivid cipher]

Nice. I’m thinking that will be my second. We will see

[mortal mural]

Is it a working building now?

[icy thicket]

Not sure... but these plants need to be stopped....

Cut one, build building, error on plot... reload ... plant in the f***ing spot already lol

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-dramatic-kid-cute-whatever-gif-2431288302559975109

The thing is I don’t go into the game constantly so a queue of a few plants sometimes takes a me a lot to get rid of

[amber narwhal]

Is there Max level Nexus?

[sterile roost]

Is my observation correct that if I spam converters next to each other, as long as they have power, they can be at 0% efficiency and they will still generate passive hyperion, solon and crypton?

[vagrant heron]

50% is the minimum. And yes, they can still generate. Very little though

[sterile roost]

It seemed to me they still generate the amount based on lvl, so for a lvl 6 that would be 15/144h even if the efficiency is very low. Id like a breakdown of that somewhere

So if i understand correctly A lvl6 converter makes 15crypton/144h at 150% efficiency, but the same converter at 50% efficiency would make only 5crypton/144h?

oh, so 126 efficiency for max generation? I needed that! I was going for 150% in all of them, tah's really good to know, I'll probably squeeze a few more. Than you

[radiant sky]

It depends on Tier of Land you have

[sterile roost]

1

[tribal zealot]

if you found a T1 land with three different type of element extractor you can fit 24 with above 126%

[sterile roost]

t1 has only one element extractor

[mortal mural]

Max efficiency output for passive differs from tier. Tier 1 is something like 126%. T3 is something like 134%

[tribal zealot]

element is different from fuel

[atomic cove]

what was this all about 😱

[leaden egret]

Hi all, are the road still usefull once structures at max lever ?
Are they searching or making fuel faster with roads of not ?

[sweet egret]

I keep loosing ressources because I start building, a network error occurs - all ressources lost. Buildings are not getting build. I play on PC/mobile?

Are you also have those issues/maybe heared of any fix in sight? 😦

[radiant sky]

yes, paths decrease the time needed for activities.
You get 1% for every 10 buildings connected with paths

[radiant sky]

you might have plant''s qeued up?
like is there a plant spawning where you want to build?

[sweet egret]

should be enough place here - I try upgrading and lost for example just 3mil Carbon and the corresponding fuel for the building

[radiant sky]

indeed.
Sounds like a new bug.
Reporting ingame would be appreciated.

have you tried reloading plot before building, or completely start the app new before building?

you get the error on both, desktop and mobile?

[sweet egret]

did that some days ago. So far only saw it on desktop. Overall I often get "a network error occurs" on desktop. Feels like it is connected to that. Switching plots does not rly work too. Have to close the app sometimes

I keep an eye on that if I have some more useful information/patterns to share. Buildings not getting build is also annoying. Hoped maybe someone has a workaround what I can do 🙂

[radiant sky]

yea i heared of that plot loading problem before.
it's weird i don't experience any of those new problems... except the massive lag when missions are completed.

[sweet egret]

the hint with plants could be. I just got again a network error when cleaning a plant. Maybe I can workaround somehow not cleaning plants or clean all plants to get my plot running again until a fix

[radiant sky]

if plants have no place to grow, they get like saved in a storage and as soon as there is place to grow they immediately spawn.
But you just see the spawn if you reload the plot.

If that's the case, you have to keep harvesting until that "storage" is empty and plants don't spawn immediately anymore.

[tardy falcon]

misclick XD

and maybe a lil dyslexia

[pseudo ocean]

Hello guys when are you going to start generating good profits the land?

[plain hamlet]

3rd day in a row asking, am I the only one who can’t convert anything ? Fuel or elements nothing works, the process starts but when I want to collect nothing happens except the passive generation

[thorny crater]

Make a big report that’s weird

[mortal bough]

Somebody selling to themself lol

[mortal bough]

Next century, maybe...

[grand silo]

wish someone with some clout could push Zero up the priority list, OV being the last. I love Zero just wish it had way more to do

[vivid cipher]

No one else here on the discord seems to be having that issue.

[viscid bolt]

Are there only two blueprints per biodata (one for each drone and armour)? So, no need to research a biodata once those two blueprints are acquired?

[vestal spear]

I’ve found 3 amour blueprints for a couple of bio data’s .

[radiant sky]

there are 4 drone blueprints and 15 armor blueprints each biodata.
(note that 2 drone blueprints are bugged and can't be found. (you can just find mozart and bach for now))

[viscid bolt]

Thank you!

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[plain hamlet]

How can I fix this though ??

[open stratus]

Did selling fuel get fixed

[cosmic spade]

still no megacity still no game improvement…

yes… wen???

furthermore? each day i lost all of my none fuel mats because storage is full and can‘t use it.

[grand silo]

what tier do you have?

[cosmic spade]

2xt3, 1xt2, 1xt1

[grand silo]

that will make a very nice mega. I have a 1 t3 & two t1s

+t2

can you not build more fuel storage?

[cosmic spade]

i would say good, but nothing happens here regarding il zero, the game where they‘ve received all the money from the early investors

[cosmic spade]

i could, if i sell energy, but i don’t see the sense at the moment

[grand silo]

I went for blueprints so dont have a storage issue

[cosmic spade]

gl man

[grand silo]

megas were 8-12 weeks coming up 20 weeks ago surely it shouldnt be much longer

[quick oxide]

I have a question, is it possible to send fuel back to zero? Or sell it from your balance? I have send fuel by misstake to the overworld balance

[cosmic spade]

yea, it’s unbelievable… i only bought because of the mega, i haven’t time to play 4 plots.
also no boost to my smal plots

[grand silo]

pretty sure you cant send it back and dont play OW myself so not 100%

[quick oxide]

So lost it now, because I also don't play OW

[radiant sky]

I wouldn't say "lost".
There once was the plant to price everything in fuel, so you could buy other Stuff with it in a later Stage.
However, those Plans could have changed since they intend to revamp the whole economy

[hazy tartan]

I laughed so hard reading this as “it’s not lost, they could’ve been used for (insert sink here), but that was scrapped so they’re essentially lost”

[rose thicket]

The omitted revenue for October must be an err. If zero, why this is noted by the supplying the report is troubling. My understanding is that 17-20% of the monthly revenue reported Aug-Sep would be scheduled to fund Labs, and the other 83-80% is long-term liability to be paid out to stackers. Is that your understanding?

[grand silo]

this is concerning

[meager hawk]

i wanna sell one of my lands with level 8 nexus anyone know how much its worth? does the nexus level matter for price?

tier2

[rose thicket]

friend requested...would like to DM

[vivid cipher]

The announcement noted why the revenue line is empty. It’s because there was no revenue distribution made. So the revenue was not received by the DAO. I will ask about why non-chain revenue was left off.

[thorny crater]

Yeah. I agree with super.

As of today I’m readying this as illuvium made 0$ gross before expenses.

Anything else is just moving around numbers, any accountants here ?, to get the public to see things a certain way.

[sharp jolt]

I’m curious about this too. If you find an answer please share. Don’t understand why it wouldn’t reflect some revenue.

Edit: it was just left blank nvm

[hushed cipher]

Is there a quick way to check what the average current fuel prices are?

[radiant sky]

hilarious 😄
need to delete 6 powerstations so i can move nexus so i can remove the imediatly spawned plant

[grand silo]

maxed out stations?

[radiant sky]

na, just level 4... but still... the hustle just to remove the plant 😄

[grand silo]

100% atleast they arent fully done, takes a good 20hrs on that the last upgrade

[mortal mural]

im getting duplicate facts

nevermind

i had stage3 facts but ingame it shows in the s1 menu

[lean comet]

so does anyone sale there fuel?

[thorny crater]

Fuel price keeps dropping so yup

[lean comet]

i not sure how to sale any at this point

[thorny crater]

It’s a process. Use the ledger to see what the last price was sold at. And match it or go lower

[lean comet]

i went much lower and nothing

[thorny crater]

Let see the process. Take a photo of where you found the lowest price

[lean comet]

here are my orders

the ledger

last oen sold for .000000017

mine at .000016

[lean comet]

yea please show me how to price it as i have fuel just stitting there

[foggy bison]

I found this video by "Nijafe_Plays GameFi" which helped me out immensely.
Go to YouTube and search for "How To Sell Illuvium Fuel For Best ROI"
When you find the video, go to the section around 3:15 and he explains the method that's been working well for me

The fuel bonus is ridiculous right now, so the numbers he was using are "obsolete"
Start out with numbers in the 60's. Right now, for Crypton, 65 got me close to 1,000

[lean comet]

not sure I understand 65 as I am like at 16

I watch the Vid

[lean comet]

man the bonus fuel is off the charts right now i guess

so if someone buys 100 thye get 1633?

[mortal mural]

Yea I’m really considering buying fuel off to make a stock of fuel

[vivid cipher]

So August showed what the DAO received from revdis. Not what the “Games” received as gross revenue. These burn reports are not about the games. The burn reports are about the DAO.

The other revenue streams (besides the on-chain revenue that were processed as revdis and will be processed as revdis when 150eth is reached again) have not been processed as revdis because they have not reached a threshold at which I makes sense to take the steps to process that revenue as revdis. When that occurs then that revdis received by the DAO will be reported as DAO revenue.

The report is simply not what some people want it to be.

[vivid cipher]

That is not how the reports calculate and display DAO revenue.

[foggy bison]

Yeah, that's on the Purchase screen. Right now, for Crypton, typing in 58 gets you a bonus of 947, for a total of 1,005. Close enough to 1,000, which is what we're shooting for. Down below in the You Pay window, it says 0.0001508. So you could try selling your fuel for around .00000015.

[lean comet]

thanks I finally sold some

So next quick question

I made a sport for another storage unit but when evern i take out a "tree" a new tree comes up and I can build there. Is there anyway around this?

[foggy bison]

You have to keep clearing the plants until they're all gone. You might have a lot of them backed up. It's part of the game, and plant clearing should not be taken for granted.

I have never completely filled up any of my land plots, so I don't know if this is your situation. The plants need space to grow - give them some.

[lean comet]

yea they keep coming back lol

[white field]

Anyone have the issue with making progress, closing app, then progress reverts to where it was?

It doesn’t happen all the time but does occasionally for me and wondering what I can do to prevent it.

Just annoying to start ups on a building come back and see that it did in fact not start

[signal maple]

try change to another plot successfully to ensure the progress have been saved on server side. I think the server pretty lag recently (or my internet LOL)

[junior hollow]

anyone use the podarium building? seems like a useless building because nobody wants plants around anyway.

[rotund forum]

it was useless and it will remain useless now as well. They changed their idea again, so you might as well not build it for the foreseeable future. It was the one thing interoperable zero would have gamewise, and they thought it would be too complicated. Beats me tbh.

[junior hollow]

why not just get rid of it entirely

replace it with an armory building

at least an armory building will give players something to look forward to. podarium=forever useless

[rotund forum]

I hope they will soon come out with an update. Maybe there the podarium will just be removed like the hologram and marketplace before. But that is the least important. The game is becoming unplayable. You reach endgame now (months ago in the meantime) and the only thing left upgrading is powerstations to L9. That makes no sense gamewise, you don´t need this much power. The scanners drie up when you hit 80 more or less. Fuelselling makes no sense either, it is just a few cents now. Only thing is blueprints and that is 1 minute a day 5 clicks. I don´t see any exciting news of upcoming updates, it is hard to stay optimistic here tbh. It has become a boring waste of time. After waiting for the release so long it seems nobody bothered to think further ahead.

[junior hollow]

the only logical progression is put in an armory and allow raiding and defense. otherwise it's just stale production.

[rotund forum]

yeah, although people stealing your fuel isn´t exactly what I expected this game to be either. If you could just sell fuel and blueprints that would be the exciting part, but the other games just don´t generate any significant revenue. And except for a short multiplayer video for the future there isn´t much happening. Maybe a few years ahead there will be more worthwhile stuff, but by then funds will have run out. They can stop revdis to stretch it a little, but that makes staking ilv useless. I don´t really see any way forward short term, so can´t blame team that they apparently don´t know either.

[junior hollow]

i think they might need hand over the project to someone else, can they sell their IP?

[rotund forum]

I think theoretically yes, if enough people vote for it.

Thing is, Kieran has a big vote, and he doesn´t seem like the guy who likes others tell him what to do. Or get fired all together. So I don´t see that happening

[junior hollow]

yah true

sometimes you gotta hand it over to someone else to continue. I think fallout started with black isle and went to another studio

[rotund forum]

yes, the different parts were made by I think 3 studios

[fiery dagger]

anyone knows what happens if i move my land to another wallet? will i lose my progress or it stays?

[rotund forum]

I think if you indicate the secondary wallet upfront there would be no problem, but not 100% on that

I moved it from passport to secondary wallet and it went ok

[fiery dagger]

so i cant send it to another pasport wallet. can i asign my secondary wallet to another pasport later on wihtout losing my progress instead?

move from old pasport to secondary,
unlink
link new pasport to secondary wallet. will this keep my progress ?

[rotund forum]

like I said, not 100% sure but I think it should not give you any problems

[rotund forum]

I think if they can´t make the game lucrative themselves eventually they´ll go bust and they could just turn off the servers and that´s it or they could sell the IP, which makes more sense.

[junior hollow]

interesting, even if they sell the IP, i think the new studio can go in a totally new direction, like not have it on the blockchain or use nfts right?

[thorny crater]

Gyms

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[willow torrent]

When hotfix to the loading plot screen when trying to switch plots. I'm losing actions because it's not saving properly and its annoying

[graceful siren]

I agree with these comments, feels like the devs tried their best but it is a failed product that nobody wants to pay to play. Can’t see any way forward

[vivid cipher]

Buildings remain when land is transferred or sold. Builders and resources are lost.

[fierce fern]

Looks Like the 3 year waiting time dident pax Off
Is the Ride over or do we have some bullets left

[fiery dagger]

so if i move out my fuels and then trfansfer to another pasport i will only lose my builders and not rest of my progress?

[thorny crater]

I agree. This will prolly be my last crypto investment like this z

To much ROI and who cause about the customers.

Nothing but black rock and bill gates energy.

Will continue to buy eth and Bitcoin. Once it goes low again. I’m up pretty big right now/since 2019

[vivid cipher]

Yes

[lethal elbow]

hi, are the missions from the IllviDex counted as points or this is just for fun because there is not a season right now?

[radiant sky]

Just for Fun, because there is no season right now

[ornate estuary]

I had the same. Playing on iOS , deleting and reinstalling the game worked…for now

[willow torrent]

If it's my end then it's from my account which I have no control over. I get the same issue on different devices (phones 2of and PCs 2of). I have put in my big. They just suggest I stay on the load plot screen - which doesn't end. So I'm kinda stuck hoping my actions were saved

[lethal elbow]

thanks😉

[river ingot]

I have just been casually playing my 3 lands. Just checked back into discord today. From what I've seen this looks to be another dieing crypto game.....

[amber atlas]

I hope you enjoyed that casual play, that was the original intent, 5-15 mins a day in little bursts.

Hopefully the new plan of getting Arena polished and ready for general public/competition, before moving on to an OW rework, has some legs.
That does raise the question: has there been any update on Zero direction?

[amber atlas]

(Or does it have 'zero direction' ... killing myself here)

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/and-now-my-watch-begins-nights-watch-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-now-my-watch-begins-gif-14385565

[radiant sky]

zero update on zero direction.

[river ingot]

I'm at the point of just selling my land at a loss. Just don't think I have it in me to be in crypto games anymore.

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-forever-from-now-kyle-broflovski-south-park-s11e14-e1114-gif-21153624

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/lackoffaith-disturbing-darthvader-starwars-gif-4883104

[junior hollow]

fair enough...they were poor investments. but i don't really see the point of selling them for peanuts at this point.

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/liamcarps-smile-gif-27431786

[thorny crater]

I still like to risk/gamble so the part of loss money, if they can’t United web2/3, doesn’t bother me.
I’m around $8-10k in, but 6k of that was just eth/alt coin profits lol.

That said. I can’t stand this ROI talk all the time. It like more about I put in 10$ I “deserve” 100% return. It’s just not how gambling/investing works.

[tranquil sparrow]

i hope this bullrun makes breakeven 🤣

[tardy falcon]

I had a plan too... but everything has changed. The whole thing is kinda fragmented right now and I'm not sure where things are gonna go. Def feels uncertain rn. I still play Zero every day and I would still like to see value for land in the whole system. But Need players... and I guess the focus is on gauntlet for the next while and we all just keep on keeping on.

[paper sleet]

I am going to max everything out. Right now I am going to focus on that and when I do it I’ll try to scan for blueprints. What do yall think?

[tardy falcon]

I mean yah... that's what I'm doing too. Just grinding and scanning.

[paper sleet]

I feel like scanning is too expensive while I’m trying to upgrade. Like a 1 in 10 chance, I only have a t1

[tardy falcon]

Oh yahh... prob wanna build that up all the way first

t1 is rough. I have two and they are a slog

[paper sleet]

Yea I have gotten rid of most of my element converters except carbon which I don’t have a mine of. And have 6 of each of the fuel, no podarium.

Good to know, I guess I’ll just focus on building and selling fuel!

But when I max every thing out if I could afford to constantly run the scanners would I be at a disadvantage?

[grand silo]

to be fair 2yr ROI is still on the table just checked the floor on my t3 @ 0.46🤣

read in the news letter evaluated Illuvium Zero’s roadmap updates but nothing else

@hearty cradle anything mentioned about Megas

[hearty cradle]

yea the team is working on the calculation and the execution.
it's gonna be credited to landowners

[grand silo]

good news, any update on megas going live

[hearty cradle]

the target is eom, but still in development

[grand silo]

cheers for the update

[rotund forum]

And blueprints? Any date on that? 😃

[graceful siren]

It would be nice to have some acknowledgment from the team. “We know you guys who backed us from the off are underwater, we see you and are doing our best” would go a long way.

[grand silo]

im sure the team think this, but prob heads down under the pump

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-nation-fire-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-14967018

[paper sleet]

What do the blue and white lines around a fuel converter mean?

[radiant sky]

passive production of converters have a total activity time as you see below.
144h (white) which is divided into cycles (blue) whenever a cycle is completed you get a part of the total activity production in your converter-storage.

[grand silo]

come on hammy surely we will get some decent player numbers soon. massive rewards program coming plus gauntlet looking sic. Better be cause my BPs are looking juicy

[paper sleet]

It looks like blue is the shorter cycle and white is the 144 hour cycle??

[radiant sky]

uuh that actually can be true haven't paid too much attention to those tbh

corrected it.

sorry for misinfo 😔

i'm just too bad at this game 😄

[paper sleet]

Well dr spoon you have helped me develop my plot over the past year or so. Thank you!

Dr spoon, so you agree with super hamster that it is not a great idea to go after blue prints if you are a maxed out t1? Instead focus on fuel production?

[rose thicket]

My guess is if it took them 3+ years to deliver on ILZ blueprint functionality...it will take them 2+ years to give the actual BPs utiliity worth buying in OW & Arena. Maybe longer given how much budgetary cuts will happen. Hope I am wrong!

[paper sleet]

So you get more fuel quicker if you let the blue finish?

[radiant sky]

It's a difficult decision.
Low tier at the moment are in a tough spot for science, since they can't afford a maxed out science build.
However, team knows it and is discussing changes, which means it can look differently next week/month/year... if it then would be attractive for low tier again you would probably be sad for missing out starting your collection on biodata/blueprints.

It's also strongly dependend on how the strategy is for the future, which is unfortunately pretty unclear.
If there is for example a focus in development of f2p content, value of science can increase and fuel decrease shortterm.

In general, i think it is a reasonable statement, that fuel is a continuous stream of profit whereas Science is more like a lottery system (either top or flop).
Fuel is the major part of the studio's revenue which is needed to continue developing games, so it's in labs interest to make it work.

[mortal mural]

my plots are set so that if i have to pivot it doesnt take that long either.

i got one plot that is only fuel. and is kinda boring. but i agree that blueprints is a very high risk gamble

more tilted on a negative expected value as of now. it might change as time goes on and changes are introduced

[radiant sky]

I fully agree, yes.

[mortal mural]

i still do blueprints because i have fun collecting.

i agree. in the current state, im not touching blueprints with my t1. too much hassle

[rose thicket]

Did we ever receive the rationale for the change from labs? The decisions seem so haphazard and have not communicated any basis since Johnny stepped out.

[rose thicket]

Do we have any feedback loop for the head of ILZ development? In the last six months, the ILZ devs seem to be floundering with no ability to hit any targets stated by Kieran.

[radiant sky]

rational about blueprint changes i would say are given in the IIP
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1301095755787927572

[radiant sky]

what exactly you mean with feedback loop?
If you give ingame feedback about Zero it will end up on the table of the zero team.

[rose thicket]

My understanding is Theodor heads up ILZ development. Do the Mods curate and supply him with feedback?

A 3:1 ratio seems out the window and punished the lower tiers with the "knee-jerk" 75% production reduction. I told Aaron at the time it would not solve the geometrical supply expansion, but I never anticipated that we would hit almost Zero demand for fuel. At this stage, I understand demand might not come online for another 6 months, but now is the time to fix the disparities on the supply side of the game's economy. Nothing I have seen communicated lays out a rationale plan for doing so.

[radiant sky]

it's even rough with t3 i feel 😄

[rose thicket]

@radiant sky is Theodor still the "head" for ILZ?

[radiant sky]

There is no channel for mods to talk to departement heads as far as i'm aware.
What i know is ingame feedback will get directed to them and they read Games channels like #🎮〕illuvium-zero aswell as #1020759212172775464 .

[radiant sky]

why do you think 3:1 ratio seems out the window?
What's the value ratio you would head to?

[radiant sky]

haven't heared anything else, so i guess so.

[rose thicket]

@verbal igloo can you supply Landholders with an update on what the team is planning for the ILZ economy? @bitter glade communicated that an economist was hired ~90 days ago who would be assessing and working on it after the initial 75% production reduction took place.

[rose thicket]

I am fine with the 3:1 ratio target. Given that dyes and gyms are off the table for the foreseeable future and BPs are playing the "lottery"; the ratio feels more like 12:1 to me. For the faithful like me that stack lower tier megacities it is even compounded.

[verbal igloo]

I am not IZ's head, but IZ's client side devs lead

[verbal igloo]

Personally I don't have anything that I can share right now on this subject

[rose thicket]

who would you suggest we interface with on this subject from Labs?

[radiant sky]

what exactly you want to ask?
As Kieran mentioned in the townhall there will be lots of IIP's coming from team. I guess we have to be a little bit patient.

[verbal igloo]

Probably Aaron or Kieran would be the people knowing most of the details on that subject. But just like Dr.Spoon mentioned, if it wasn't shared yet, probably isn't ready to go public

[rose thicket]

thank you for the prompt response

@bitter glade I as a landholder appreciate the sentiment expressed in the Aug 24 dev blog. We are now another quarter down the road and the 'burn report' has the landholders I interface with nervous to say the least. The bombshell related to OW's future just compounds on the worries. Could you give us an update on your "Eve Online" vision for the economy and what milestones have been accomplished? What plans and priorities exist for the Devs to help landholders generate more value?

I get it on expanding the herd. If I am going to be clicking bubbles in the meantime, then I prefer it to be a bit more productive "in-game" than this. Especially if Kieran is going to be the final say on the fuel rails moving forward and ILV abandons the concept of a working economy. At this stage, a flat fuel rate and a single unit of account are fine by me if it reduces the friction for new players to become customers.

[amber aurora]

Any die-hards buying land?

[gritty saddle]

The problem is that the free to play experience is woefully incomplete

Most f2p games have a player base of 90% free, 8% casual spenders, and like 2% whales to be generous.

The problem is that as it is illuvium has a demo for f2p players, so they all just leave. And it's not multi-player enough for cosmetics to add much vanity value for anyone.

And I've already heard the "you can play 100% f2p, just have to grind..." you have to get insanely lucky, grind, and engage with markets, which again, doesn't appeal to most casual players

[mortal smelt]

So how will land owners get paid from illuvitar sale?

I hope they use fuel to purchase disks

As land is suppose to fuel all games yadayada

[unborn osprey]

Just psa I think I have the best tier 2 land there is and I’ve spent 0 dollars. Prove me wrong.

Best in terms of XP and biodata and everything at 150%.

[limpid quest]

Heyo Zero Players 🤝

Question from community: "hello how can we store more than 10 biodata on Zero?"

Will be grateful

[verbal igloo]

Build or upgrade data banks

[limpid quest]

Thanks Theodor ❤️

[barren sierra]

question, do you lose the workers, if season changes, or are they perma, as long as you don't sell the land?

[radiant sky]

Workers just get deleted if you sell/transfer your land, other than that they will be forever yours.

https://tenor.com/view/what-nani-marmot-squirrel-turn-around-gif-15557594

[tribal zealot]

im certain you were part of this

[grand silo]

with the plants wouldnt an easy fix just be make the timer a 5 second harvest. Then if you have a load to work through its only a couple of minutes worse case

[tulip perch]

hry in honour of "Peanuts" we should have a Fighting Squirrel Iluvial 😉

[rotund forum]

Illuvium Zero, the patience game 🤪

[keen maple]

@radiant sky, hi, you told me earlier that there are 25 blueprints to be minted for each Illuvial. Could you elaborate a bit more on that? Let's say i have a Ramphy, does this mean i can get 25 blueprints out of researching that one alone?

[open stratus]

I swapped token for land. What a miss that turned out to be

[radiant sky]

There are 4 drone blueprints, one for each drone (it's just 2 AT the Moment due to the other being Buggy) and 15 armor blueprints, one for each armor line

[oak ruin]

WEN MEGACITY?????????????????

[wanton canopy]

Illuvium is a speculative venture. Illuvium Zero depends on the success of all the Illuvium Games and we are still at an early stage of the adoption cycle. It is a positive step that the games have launched as that provides feedback on what is working and what is most important to do next. For now, it is important that each of the games get more polish. The team has acknowledged the challenges of launching three games simultaneously and has now pivoted to focus on one game at a time starting with Gauntlet.

I agree that reducing fuel production by 75% was not the best approach. We should encourage Illuvium Zero landowners to play Overworld and Arena. We should also incentivise Overworld and Arena players to buy land.

ROI from any crypto asset depends on the phase of the crypto cycle. We have had the Bitcoin halving in January and now we are seeing the price increase. Many pundits have suggested that altcoins will follow and then other assets such as land follow them in rising. Of course, Illuvium has to succeed as a gaming ecosystem as well. I am confident that the team will deliver. Web 3 games are multi-year projects and, some other games are much earlier in their development cycle than Illuvium.

[wanton canopy]

@rose thicket The fuel revenue 19:1 ratio for stakers:farmers is baked into years of agreements and there is no point in trying to change that. It would have been much better to just give land farmers 5% of revenue from sales and match total fuel production to demand.
I appreciate your efforts to persuade Aaron that the fuel supply needs to be fixed. Hopefully we can get Illuvium Zero’s Fuel Economist into the discussion so that we can present our perspectives.

[rose thicket]

Fuel will be 'fixed' because Kieran said so. So once he defines the rails (ask price), the supply side of price discovery will be over. It will all be about customer acquisition (i.e. players willing to accept the bid price for fuel). However, if the "DEX" continues to perform the 19 for 1 swap (derivatives), then the geometric growth in supply will continue as the existing land fuel production continues to grow exponentially as the first 20,000 plots mature. This should be self-evident, but apparently have not been accounted for by the "ILV Economists" or they do not care. Spontaneously newking supply production by 75% obviously was not the answer.

[rose thicket]

I agree; nobody appears willing to pay to play, which is 99.99% of the current issue. However, if "solved (big if), then "problems" still persist for ILZ landholders to generate an ROI worthy of the time investment (not including ROI for our capital) is a lost cause. Maybe there is a couple of million Asian TFT degens that hold DOGE and now are looking to degen into a new TFT w/ a Ranger on the board 🤣

[celest wagon]

you depressed me but you were right, we have to accept that the ROI is LOST

[rose thicket]

The only answer in my mind is a BOTW meets Monster Hunter OW smash hit. Auto-battler and pack opening might be a thing in Asia & Oceania, but from the feedback I have received on this side of the pond, it is irrelevant. I might have researched that better before buying my son some extremely expensive digital art with business/investment mechanics...that are pretty much burnt at this stage.

[vivid cipher]

Go ahead and edit this so it’s not about self harm.

[timber sapphire]

He meant ingame

[vivid cipher]

“Not again”

[celest wagon]

I meant in the game 🤝

maybe it's time to buy fuel to spend in beyond

[jade ruin]

hey guys

how it’s going the project ??

[rose thicket]

ETH-only for Wave 3. Never mind, the IIP passed over six months ago clarifying that all in-game transactions should be done in fuel. And how are they going to reconcile this with Landholders 🤫

[radiant sky]

maybe i would know... but i'm not used to such fancy words like reconcile, and translation didn't really make sense.

[rose thicket]

reconcile / reconciliation is maybe the most used word in accounting…good one to add to your vocab and SLM

[radiant sky]

probably not, since i don't know it's meaning 😄

there is no in between

won't be

[rose thicket]

ie. you get mugged/robbed…if you reconcile then at least you know it

[radiant sky]

if they have no time to impleement it, i doubt they have time to do a patchwork which probably needs the same amount of time

eth just going to be distributed like it's written in the iip's

quaterly distributed, propotionally according to fuel sales each land did

basically if you sell fuel, you get a share of it based how much fuel you sold compared to all other landplots

[sharp jolt]

ESL?

[rose thicket]

Can you remind me what is the APY on the ETH that I loan the DAO/Labs until we reach a quarter that validates a need for distribution? 😉

[radiant sky]

AFD?

[radiant sky]

Zero

[sharp jolt]

English as a second language. It was a genuine question since a lot of folks here aren’t native English speakers

[radiant sky]

Aaah 😄
yes

[rose thicket]

we seem to all know what the word 'Zero' means now.

[radiant sky]

thought you were talking about the European soccer league

[sharp jolt]

Your English is pretty damn good for having it as a second language

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-thank-you-appreciate-appreciate-you-gif-26374881

[jade ruin]

hey guys

why can’t i see my lands?

i had played when launch illuvium zero but now doesn’t show my lands

[vivid cipher]

If the last time you played was prior to like May 2024 then this is probably what you need to do. https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10406704244495-How-to-add-an-External-Wallet-to-your-Passport-Account

[steady wasp]

Anyone know why my plots shuffle in order? Is there a fix? Makes it hard to farm them not knowing which ones I've done.

[mortal mural]

At this point I just memorized the last 2 numbers of every plot and remember them as I go one by one.

I don’t have that many plots anyway

[hexed abyss]

I tried to play OW on my gaming laptop, was too slow... When OW on Mobile? This would bring in the much needed players...

[stable minnow]

Are all illuvials biodata available in Zero atm? I play across multiple plots and a few lines don't seem to exist (or I am really unlucky) - Squizz line, Chucco line, Ace line to name a few

[radiant sky]

it seems there are some bugged, like the one you mentioned.

[vague summit]

If your gaming laptop won't run it, what makes you think your phone will? :-p

[hexed abyss]

Because if it is designed to run on mobile, then it usually does

[slender cliff]

Fuel rlly needs a change rn the price is a joke, the production is also a joke and Nothing is preventing real change imo

I don't see why the Dao need to print 19TIMES the fuel produced by lands when the demand is soooooooo low, it makes playing zero feel like a waste of time and lower the value of everything in the OW, a proposal about this was made recently and deserve good support, when the demand is that low there is no need to push the price lower and lower, just fix the price, don t print 19 times the fuel of lands but instead put a tax of 50% on it for exemple that will make fuel go higher, lands go higher, attract ppl and make us feel like we are not wasting our time here

Specialy rn I think the Dao is getting Nothing out of fuel wich is a huge pb since it s suposed to be the money printing machine of the ecosystem

[tardy falcon]

Make an ideas thread... get support... be the change u wanna see

[slender cliff]

There is one already

[tardy falcon]

link?

[slender cliff]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1306048498461966406

The idea is good just needs some changes

[tardy falcon]

So... this would kill everyone who is hanging onto the thread of revdis and we would see a token sell off and possibly more people leave the project, yah?

I don't disagree that 19:1 is a huge problem... but is that the best fix?

[slender cliff]

Yeah I am not sure HOW exactly it needs to change that s whyI just said it" needs some changes" but rn it s clearly not working

Also how is my idea killing revdis?

[tardy falcon]

yep... but if the devs/team can't fix the system with all their brains and knowledge how do us armchair gamers fix it?

the 19x (95%) sold revenue goes to stakers

[slender cliff]

Fixing the price+making the land having more value will generate more money in opinion with a X% tax (idk how much they get rn) than that 95% sold revenue, if they don't fix fuel the project will never soar in popularity since the stakers won't have much, the land owners won t have much and OW will have 0 value, I get that they are focusing on arena rn but the fix for fuel isn t hard to realise I just don t have any data to know how it needs to be changed exactly

I cannot imagine someone comming here checking out the project, the lands, their ROI and wanting to buy one Ever.

Rn that is

[amber atlas]

It is definitely not true that performance wasnt a consideration. Back when I was involved I did a lot of my testing a tablet that I bought for $120 (AUD, so about $80 US) specifically ro ensure that it was running on crappy devices.

Maybe performance was reduced in importance later but it was certainly part of the Beta NFRs.

It runs fine on my current device but I haven't tried it the old test ones for an age. So I'm not saying you are incorrect about current performance but it feels like it shouldn't be that hard to address based on where it was 9 months ago.

That said I haven't really heard much about Zero from anyone lately 😒

---

Economy fixing starts with demand, it's all meaningless if no one spends anything. But I would support some extra bonuses for Zero owners ... not that my support means anything now.

Maybe Zero could automatically generate some of these proposed Illluvial D1sks....

[slender cliff]

I feel like no one understand that the thing suposed to make money is the OW but that s impossible rn with a fuel in that state.
If they fix fuel+launch S3 with lots of points focusing on the Ow+ fix the marketplace, zero stonks, Dao stonks, no bots to steal points while being F2P, the airprod reward more the ppl that actually play a lot and put money in the game, popularity will go up with lands and ow having value

Just a tunnel vision on arena is not gonna make us magicaly having more ppl putting money in the ecosystem

Bc we are in Web3

[amber atlas]

If people play and enjoy the game it's a pretty good starting point. Nothing matters if people aren't p(l)aying.

[slender cliff]

Well maybe I am wrong, it s just that zero and ow I dont wanna play them rn if they give nothing and I think most ppl are the same

[amber atlas]

I'm pretty proud that Zero is still holding players when the earnings are quite low. For those into this kind of game it seems to work.

Personally I'd love to see a push for heaps more Zero content and start a push in to free to play + IAP general public... but I might be biased 😉

[slender cliff]

Actually I think that s wrong ppl will play if it s profitable Obviously illuvium has the potential to also be a great and fun game but fixing the economy should be the big thing to do rn imo

[slender cliff]

Well we are just playing while hoping it will change

[amber atlas]

You cant fix an economy without players, someone has to put money in.

[slender cliff]

Exactly but the pb is that

I cannot imagine someone comming here checking out the project, the lands, their ROI and wanting to buy one Ever.

That s my previous comment above

[amber atlas]

I mean the direction is Arena. If Arena is improved to a point that it attracts a large player base then it works. You may it may not agree that that is doable.

But that's what was decided.

It's certainly an easier fix than OW.

(Although OW potential is greater in my opinion at least)

[slender cliff]

Arena is gonna give airdrop(s3) that s why it s gonna be a way to make money

But fixing fuel is sooo much easier and more impactful

Bc arena can be done F2p right

[amber atlas]

Fixing fuel does literally nothing.

You could make OW totally free right now and it wouldnt change the player base.

(to a notable degree)

[slender cliff]

The more fuel is falling the more illuvials prices are falling (and everything else in the market so in other worlds the Ow) and Obviously also the lands are being seen as trash and makes every new investors turning their eyes away from them.

Ahhh

Making ow completly free is another approach

[amber atlas]

I'm saying it wouldn't make a difference. Was a typo (on phone).

[slender cliff]

But that s a lot of potential wasted in that case

But if u make ow free

[amber atlas]

Illuvial prices fall because there is no demand. You can do whatever you want with Fuel and long term it makes no difference if people don't want Illuvials.

[slender cliff]

Fuel and lands are fking falling to 0 for nothing good out of it

No demand bc illuvials are worth nothing

[amber atlas]

And they will be saved if money is generated and money is generated by making a game people want to play.

[slender cliff]

Why bc fuel is to cheap run are cheap and nothing is pricy to get anymore

Bro I want to play ow rn

But it would be a waste of time

Cuz nothing is valuable in the ow rn

If they fix fuel runs will be more expendive making illuvials also expensive

Add S3 to that

[amber atlas]

Your analysis makes no sense, you are missing a crucial understanding of why Illuvials could be in demand.

[slender cliff]

No one is buying the illuvials rn we are waiting for the S3 to start

But if fuel is still cheap at that point

Then no one is gonna buy anything will just do runs for some cts and get done with it wich is kinda sad

Maybe tournaments and rankings will be enough to make illuvials and fuel demand higher but I believe fixing fuel would not hurt ( and in fact do a X10 of the playerbase maybe even fking x100 for zero)

And with 10times more ppl comes 10times more revenue

Honestly many ideas could save zero and the fuel another exemple would be giving us 1:14 instead of 1:19 that would create more revdis long term, since ppl would play and buy lands bc the ROI would be better, also since there is less fuel generated while not touching the demand, the price goes up and the Ow value goes up and ppl want to sell and buy illuvials again, if there is Somehow even more demand than supply just make the Dao prints the lacking fuel and everyone is happy

Getting tier 5 illuvials for 1-2 dollars is ridiculous rn

And it s bc of the fuel

We are almost at a point where everyone want to bail out of zero, lands and fuel crash again and again until we get bonus 9999% for buying fuel

i think it s bonus 1500% rn lol

It wasn t even 100% a few months ago and illuvials had actual value

Well maybe I am wrong I didnt check what was said in the latest Ama and I am no specialist in terms of crypto ecosystem

So good night to anyone here

[celest wagon]

@amber atlas is right you need new players (100,000) who like to play TFT, focusing on one game is key

[grand silo]

Remember the days land is launching in 6 months? 1st mover advantage two years ago? going to be moving the market with us bois! All web3 games suck but us! we are the GOATS talk in every direction. delusional & embarrassing if you ask me.

To the normie investor back then, $300,4,5,6,1k++, token price with unlocks to come. paying these prices all feasible with "game launching EOY right? ILV fly wheel kicks in buying up ILV no problem right,?

Meanwhile big bags unloading "discounted silv2" on us while buying up over priced assets like Zero land all risk free in comparison to real $. All proclaiming big value investments with the intention to instill confidence. 'smoke & mirrors bs if you ask me'

Then we have what often what feels like a rudderless DAO all on incentives with a nice side hustle income. Building this building that all the while soaking up valuable resources with nothing sticking so far. OW getting parked when it should be completed wtf?

-Land investors have been completely rinsed with no light.
-Token holders recently took a 25% hit on revdis.

• Token price currently at TGE still good profit for some though.

Millions spent and we are still working out the economics of it all seriously?

Ive given the likes of Hammy a hard time moaning his ass off many a time but the truth is these guys have gotten what many of us have taken way to long to realize.

oh thats right, meanwhile we have another cash cow coming up milking from the community doing illivitars. Thing is though would I rather buy pfp collector disk or two or buy an ILV token, thats how cheap ILV is now. Absolute joke.

[gritty saddle]

Funny to see people saying overworld is failing because it's not profitable. It's failing because it's a chore to play. It's dazzling to play, but ultimately not fun after a few runs.

[glad dawn]

Where I can post or ad my lands for sale?

Selling these, tag me if interested

[compact nebula]

We need to increase fuel cost or find more ways to burn fuel

[celest wagon]

I remember this Dutch sale I was so hyped😂

[tardy falcon]

The system that exists now pressupposed we'd have A LOT more players to meet the supply/demand requirements.

If you increase fuel cost even less people will play. If you require more fuel to be burned in order to play you'll also lose players who think the game already costs too much to play hence the continued price drop.

We need players. If you were a brand new person coming into the Illuvium universe today what would you think if you looked around for a while?

[celest wagon]

Yes, the only miracle that could save everyone is to find a way to bring a lot of people.

[compact nebula]

I would see that things are pretty cheap

Definitely we need more players

[celest wagon]

He's trying to make a good TFT that will attract real players, we'll hope it works.

[quaint prism]

What's the max amount of times that trees can respawn on your plot? I feel like they've literally respawned at least 30 times today...

I don't have the podarium. I just want to make a new building, but it's not letting me...

[grand silo]

if you only have one builder and its been a while prepare to sit for a good couple of hours. If you have 3 builders one can still expect a good 30mins+. depends on how long its been since the last time you done it

[radiant sky]

🤔
3 builder = 30 mins
1 builder = couple hours

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[harsh dew]

Hello! Do we have a [range of time] or a date for when the blueprints from ILZ will be available in Overworld as skins?

[radiant sky]

Latest Info
#1290736426861727844 message

[thin wolf]

Really want to start making skins

[quaint prism]

I'd much rather they get rid of this unfun mechanic.

[radiant sky]

team is looking at it

[quaint prism]

The game shouldn't feel like a chore to play, or people won't want to play it. Especially people who don't have as much free time.

[blazing python]

Team, I submitted a request to support a few days ago but have not heard back yet. Maybe someone here can point me in the right direction?
I started the ILV Zero game up before visiting the site, and was prompted to create a new passport for my email address (but I needed to migrate). I have not migrated yet because I'm not sure if I should delete the new passport profile tied to my email account or if that would cause other issues. The flow in the ILV Zerio does not offer migration, only on our website.

[radiant sky]

The land you want to play needs to either be migrated into your passport account, or you link the wallet your land is on in your passport settings when logged in on the Illuvium homepage.

If you just want to play for free, you can just create a passport account and start the game.

[blazing python]

Thank you for confirming. I think my options now are 1) Delete the new passport account and then Migrate my land / wallet to a new one under the same name or 2) Migrate to the new account as is. Not sure which is better.

[radiant sky]

That's depending on your preference on which e-mail you want to use 🙂

you can also just link the wallet to keep the land on your hardware wallet, migration is not a necessity.

[blazing python]

So what are the benefits of migrating? Easier transfer of resources?

[radiant sky]

There is not really a benefit i can think of.
i myself linked my wallet

[blazing python]

Thanks. I assume we link our wallets through the Illuvium website?

[radiant sky]

yes.

• Logg in
• Click profile
• Click Settings
• on the very bottom left you can link your wallet.

Guid for linking 2nd wallet:
https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10406704244495-How-to-add-an-External-Wallet-to-your-Passport-Account

[thorny crater]

I like them until my plots are maxed. Like I need a new data bank on my t2 BP focused tab.

I’m at the place where it 1 min each plant but been removing for 2 days now.

I think it is still there for 1 of 2 reasons.

1. the code is so embedded is hard to make the 2
2. it gets people to buy coins.

My solution. Keep the queue. But plant can’t not grow when the plot is loaded up. If you switch plots/exit the app, they start growing again.

[thorny crater]

Not gunna lie. I hate wasting 60 secs of life watching a clock lol

[amber atlas]

For your feedback: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1307465545498759188

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-damn-atta-girl-my-type-youre-hot-thats-hot-gif-8157539

[plain cargo]

Nov 21 season 3?

[thorny crater]

Yeah at least that’s an action. The plant thing is like watching paint dry

Plus those bug can be shot with the quick shot gun and be stunned, so we can just run pass them and ignore them.

I think my idea is the middle ground. Nothing changes except the plants don’t grow while you plot is actively loaded. If you just click plots and reload the same plot play will grow.

No clue why you’re against this.

[cobalt monolith]

New player on the fence , with illuvium zero with android is it play to earn?

[radiant coral]

"earn" 😂

[acoustic pike]

Why i dont grow over level 201 ?

[radiant sky]

201 is Max Level AT the moment

[radiant sky]

If you bought a Land, yes
if you play for free, no

Zero f2p is mainly for getting to know how Zero works before you have to pay for a Land nft. In future there might be more Fun, social activities and competitive pvp/pve features implemented.

For now:

• you can't sell any assets generated on your f2p plot yet
• you can't use any assets in other Games than Zero itself yet

However, you can:

• play for Fun
• play for Airdrop missions (soon)
• play for possible future features.

Also the tokens you generate with Level ups are Account bound. If you one day decide to buy a Land you can use those tokens to Speed that Land up or buy builders there.

[thorny crater]

Because I want to rebuild my plot and can’t bc of plants….and your response is just watch paint dry for 30 mins for the next 2-5 days is wild.

I can’t play the game and just deal with it is weird.

[native gyro]

Anything going to be done about the mobile app crashing all the time when you collect resources?

It freezes then closes out. Anyone else having this issue?

[minor hazel]

had to clear something like 380ish plants the other day just so I could build the one building I wanted. Almost an entire workday of every minute maintenance to make one adjustment is kinda unreasonable

[agile sigil]

Listed under floor, need cash for wave 3 :;D

[radiant sky]

keep that in #🛒〕land-dex please

[unborn osprey]

I'm not sure I'm the only one but there is a massive BUG that happened to me like 3 times already.

I claim the Singularity scanner when it's done and then the next time I get into the game it's not claimed and I have to claim it again.

The biodata I get is the same as before. Everything is the same, I just lost few hours because it's broken.

[thorny crater]

Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? I report this bug back in jully

I just don’t whine about things every day

Fine you win. Player play zero less so you can be happy

[thorny crater]

Exactly. To keep it as is, is just dumb

Not July, it was august I reported it. Just went look at my emails

[radiant sky]

an ingame bug report would be appreciated 🙂

[thorny crater]

I stopped reading. Just don’t care anymore

[quaint prism]

Ah, this again lol. One of my plots is still not cleared yet as it really has built up for me. Agree queued plants are annoying and should be fixed

[quaint prism]

Here's a third person commenting on how annoying it is. #1290736426861727844 message

I would prefer if it was removed by default and if that type of increased plant spawning functionality results from a player decision, e.g. podarium.

[vague summit]

This happens to me all the time with resource collection and starting buildings. I check back later and nothing has been done.

[quaint prism]

By "it", I mean the queued plants feature. Not plants entirely.

[rose thicket]

Now thats helpful…why not making a built feature valuable to the NFT holders and not an annoying feedback loop that pisses off the projects core TLV.

[valid patio]

hi please i have 1 question , in illuvium zero on free to play mode is possible to earn?

[radiant sky]

Zero f2p is mainly for getting to know how Zero works before you have to pay for a Land nft. In future there might be more Fun, social activities and competitive pvp/pve features implemented.

For now:

• you can't sell any assets generated on your f2p plot yet
• you can't use any assets in other Games than Zero itself yet

However, you can:

• play for Fun
• play for Airdrop missions (soon)
• play for possible future features.

Also the tokens you generate with Level ups are Account bound. If you one day decide to buy a Land you can use those tokens to Speed that Land up or buy builders there.

[radiant sky]

Dm's are scams

[valid patio]

ha ok thankyou response

[hazy jewel]

Guys: how many blueprinte there are for single illuvial ?

[radiant sky]

4 drone and 15 armor blueprints each biodata.
however, 2 drones are bugged and can't be found yet.

[celest wagon]

1200$ ? floor 300$

[old stump]

Hey all, I'm checking the Illuvidex for blueprints, but don't see any tier 2 or 3 blueprints listed? For instance, I was trying to gauge the value of my Axon blueprints, but I don't see any listed. I only see the thousands of T1 Illuvial blueprints. Am I missing something?

[radiant sky]

blueprint minting is not live yet.

[old stump]

Ah, got it. Thanks for the info.

[thorny crater]

Best glitch I got so far

[thorn moon]

Asked in the wrong channel 😅

Are there others advancing their land? I know there’s no advantage right now, but I just wanna make sure I’m not wasting my time lol

Like has there been any insight from mods or a dev?

[radiant sky]

insight about what?

[radiant sky]

can't speak for anyone else, but i'm playing zero and developping land.

[sharp jolt]

Are you asking if you can make money off it?

[thorn moon]

No no, I mean like

With the focus being on the gauntlet, I know there’s no reasonable update coming soon

That being said, I remember seeing your thread on feedback to Zero. TBH, I only read the initial post, didn’t see what feedback messages were left but there were a lot of things you pointed out that would significantly improve the game

To clarify my question, are they going to revamp Zero in any way that would make my progress null/insignificant?
Honestly information in general is hard to find, but from what I’ve read, there are talks of pausing/stopping OW and doing temporary pack releases.

Also talks of changing how fuel is used/mined

[thorn moon]

I know I ain’t making money rn lol but if I’m spending maybe an hour a day building in zero, and then they come out with a “new revamped landbuilding” that makes my old buildings obsolete, that would feel pretty bad

[radiant sky]

No, there will not be a reset of any kind, wiping your progress.

Yes, information is/was always hard to find.
Pinned messages in the game specific channels can help here and there.
But the straight forward way is definetly like you did, ask in the chat what you wana know, there's always helpful community members arround trying to answer any question you might have.

There are indeed talks about reworking the whole economy.
Latest info i saw is more or less OW staying live, but there could be a "pack opening" feature coming, where whales without time can "farm" illuvials with just a few clicks.
But all this is more rumors, there is no official statement yet illuvium is doing this or that, so for now it stays as it is and we will see if there are many proposals coming to change the economy.

With talks about fuel it's the same, lots of talks and rumors, but no official statement.
Many people are advocating for just having 1 Fuel outside of Zero, because they think it's too complicated to handle 3 fuels and onboarding would be more successful with just 1 fuel.

[thorn moon]

Appreciate the response! Would be interesting to see a 1 fuel system, if anything, it sounds easier to implement

I shall continue maxing out my land forsure tho lol

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[amber atlas]

"Always helpful community members around" == @radiant sky doesn't sleep 😉

[celest wagon]

🔥

one day we earn money with the bp🙏

[pseudo ocean]

Question: If I'm going to buy Land, how do I know what level it is and how much improved it is?

[pseudo ocean]

thank you ❤️

[grand silo]

nice

[tardy falcon]

is 88 the max number of biodata discoverable for now?

[mortal mural]

Do you have some t2s?

I think squizz line, entire t2, mahmu line, winq line, ace line, tiru line, chucco line, rai line are unvailable for now.

I got some t2 before the nerf patch but dindt find any since then, some got squizz line too before patch

Many already reported so they should be looking into it already. But it always help to reported and add info

[tardy falcon]

ahh ok so it can vary

depending when scanned

I'm gonna stop scanning cuz havent found any more biodata in like 5 days

[lethal valley]

hi guys
yea, im really behind... just foud some time today
where do i start again? which one do i choose?

[tardy falcon]

not testnet unless you wanna test alternate arena version

[lethal valley]

ok so like... for overworld the testnet is done. it was just for the airdrop and open beta. right?

so i can uninstall the testnet?

[lethal valley]

ok i forgot my metamask passowrd 😄
why is logging in so complicated tho?... does it really need to be like this?

[simple lance]

I got Ramphyre Starmail stage 1 blueprint today, but got that one a couple weeks ago. I thought we wouldn't get doubles?

[mortal mural]

Well we all thought we couldn’t but we getting duplicates. People is reporting. It always help to report

I got several duplicates too

[lethal valley]

wait did i just download overworld+arena?
i was looking to play zero 😄 is it included in that now?

[tardy falcon]

Zero is separate app

Search illuvium zero

[lethal valley]

o boy 😄
ok where do i gt that from

still from epic?

[tardy falcon]

Yep

[lean bison]

I'm about to reach lvl 180 in F2p soon and I continue to play hope that one day it will be useful in anyway also its fun and it's much easier now to have a paid land and lvl up fast

My main thing is having a new computer now to play overworld cuz mine is too laggy

Does anyone knows why I can't find new Biodata anymore it's been more than a week since I have found any ?????

[sharp jolt]

Zero is performance heavy? From the tiny bit I played it was just a city builder.

I’ve heard others mention this too so I’m curious why it’s like this

[radiant sky]

have you played arround with your graphic settings?
might help a little.

[radiant sky]

the keyword is overworld

[sharp jolt]

Ahh you’re right. I was looking at the post he responded to

[radiant sky]

you might have found them all?

[sharp jolt]

Still, OW is performance heavy? It’s a pretty landscape, but there isn’t that much going on. I’d think it would be able to run on lower end systems well

[radiant sky]

According to info gathered by community members, there are several data missing at the moment. (Patch 1.1.4)

Biodata that can't be found for now:

• squid line (Squizz, Octius, Ophisto)
• lynx lines (All T2 Illvuials (31 BD all together))
• mahmoth line (Mah'mu, Mah'tu, Mah'mut)
• Fennec fox line (Winq, Quinx, Ghazotep)
• Moth line (Ace, Artace, Monarch)
• Kangaroo line (Ti'ru, Tii'ruo, Tibi'Rukko )
• Dropbear line (Chucco, Chukoorl, Chukoondi)
• Red Panda line (Rai, Rai-Lu, Rai-Lee)

Blueprints that can't be found for now:

• Hilde
• Chopin

Please note, this is not an official statement!
This is just info gathered by community members, by playing the Game Illuvium:Zero

[vivid cipher]

You should not need metamask to be able to log in to illuvium.

Hmm but you may have your land still on your metamask (or hardware) wallet. If so then This would help. https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10406704244495-How-to-add-an-External-Wallet-to-your-Passport-Account

[tired aurora]

was there any mention of buying WAVE 3 with fuel?

[radiant sky]

won't be included in wave 3.
Afaik you have to buy them with either eth or silv2.

[tired aurora]

sad, okay

in that case not sure what to do with my fuel currently

[radiant sky]

indeed it is

[radiant sky]

<@&821154860816793604>
it's also in #🚨❗〕report-scammers

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/catpopo-gif-14363104828101683866

[whole spear]

Rekt

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/heroes-thats-what-heroes-do-thor-ragnarok-thor-thats-gif-20445883

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-rickety-wrecked-son-drunk-gif-9222778

[humble wave]

I got an Arcane Floralynx Stage 3

Can't post Pic xD

[radiant sky]

after latest patch?

before it could be found, latest patch seems to bug them out

[humble wave]

Hmm i can't remember, didn't know that may be it was before

It's was a while ago for sure

[radiant sky]

yea, then it was likely found pre patch

patch went live on 30.10.2024
#📣〕announcements message

[lyric lodge]

@whole spear @vivid cipher Honestly guys, I am really trying to be reasonable but I am uanble to make any progress on ym plots, why ? Because plants keep respawning after removed and I want to build something, this is so ridiculous that this isssue has been ongoing for months and months with no fix, its so unacceptabel for users to not have this fixed in a product they brought wiht thier hard earned money, and its been going on for months and months. Now I am really fed up, there has been no updates on when this will be fixed and only empty promises and I am really really getting frustarated. I have removed hunderds of plants and they still come back.

Please can we have some real solid answers on exactly when this is going to be fixed, its completely unacceptable that this has gone on for as long as it has, I really think we deserve a solid answer on when this is going to be resolved, why has it taken so long and more feedback than we are working on it. Thats a more than fair request, please can I have a firm response with actions that matter and will resolve this issue ?

[lyric lodge]

but still they ignore one of the biggest issue, land owners cannot move forward or build anything as plants endlessly appear, do you think its acceptable that we cannot make any progress for months on end ?

Imo its completely unacceptable that we cannot make progress for months and the team are just silent on this matter, I have removed so amny plants and they keep coming back, enough is enough

we need action now

not we know and we are are working on it

its a major issue

[radiant sky]

i totally understand your frustration.
You might experience another bug aswell where you get infinite spawns, since eveyone else i read so far was able to build after clearing x amount of plants.
Make sure to also report it ingame.

[lyric lodge]

we need a proper respinse from the team

[lyric lodge]

I have reported it

[whole spear]

Gimme just a few and will find out

[lyric lodge]

the team are so bad at coming back

[whole spear]

Fairly certain its already in at a upcoming patch

but will double check

[lyric lodge]

please mate its been months and months this issue, really fed up now , please ping me when you get a response as I am not always on discord, just really need this resolved now

[whole spear]

Yeah I understand, I asked the Zero team members.

Will get back asap

[lyric lodge]

this happens on all by plots not just one

[radiant sky]

yea aboslutely happens to all of us on all plots 🙂

[whole spear]

Basically there is a patch meant to come out soon (Maybe this week 1.1.5) and it was meant to be in that patch but there were edge cases that couldnt/didnt get fixed in time for this release. So they are planning on having it fixed in the next patch - 1.2, but thats unfortunately planned for about 3 weeks from now. But its a good patch I think we will have a blog on ahead of time to give you guys the details of that and IZ development in general.

I know thats probably not the answer you want to hear, but thats where its at. The 1.2 patch is a significant one though I think many will be pleased with.

[lyric lodge]

Thanks so 3 more weeks of no progress on our plots. Rich i do appreciate the update but I think the team should provide credits for those affected for months.....don't you think that's a fair request ?

Thank you

[whole spear]

Will see what we can do. I know we've spoken of the possibility in past.

[lyric lodge]

Thank you. I think it's a very fair request for faithful land owners who tbh have gone through an awful lot in this journey

But are fundamental to the success of the game

It's not a big ask to provide credits imo to make up for lost progress

[thorn moon]

i do think we have to be alittle bit more patient here. Been in ILV since the beginning, and what i appreciate from Kieran and the team is that they are now focusing on one game at a time, rather than trying to get everything done at the same time.

I do agree we probably deserve some kind of compensation for the shit we been thru 😅

But, im okay with waiting longer as long as we get Gauntlet and OW to a point where it actually brings people in

[marsh canyon]

Can someone tell me if someone ever made a proposal that the skins that are minted on land plot and after applied on your characters and drone could be able to give some buff in OW or arena ?

[lyric lodge]

I agree....I am only asking for credits because we cannot make progress for months because of a bug affectung all plots ....not asking for anything more than simply the progress lost

[thorn moon]

yeah i just spent all of yesterday removing a million trees lmao

[lyric lodge]

Exactly.....and it's been goining on for months ......and months. It's fair for the team to provide credits

[lyric lodge]

They will return

[lyric lodge]

@whole spear last request please add another layer requesting if users are sure they want to delete or sell a structure. This should not happen much if intended but happens quite often unintentionally.....if you know what I mean ?

[thorny crater]

Here is my convo from what I said. Some people here just want people to watch paint dry.

TLDR my idea for this:

• plants don’t sprout while your lot of activity loaded
• if plot reloaded waiting plant spawn(so we can still get resources)
• let ppl rework thier plot to try different things
• nothing else changes

Vs

• let people watch a clock(paint dry) and suffer
• use money to use coin to get rid of them faster(grift)

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[lethal valley]

why is this red?

[radiant sky]

The storage was probably full and then you upgraded your storage.
A reload of the plot should resolve the error.

[lethal valley]

so its an error. it shouldnt be red right?

[radiant sky]

yes

[lethal valley]

ok i reloaded and everything is ready 🫡

[lethal valley]

can now eeveryone play zero for free on their free land?

another question. the land's development is now stored, right? so you can sell it already built up

[radiant sky]

yes

[radiant sky]

Buildings + level yes.
everything else gets reset when sold

[lethal valley]

what else?

[radiant sky]

biodata, blueprint data, stored fuel and elements, bought builders.

[lethal valley]

oh ok. interesting

whats up with the energy? it wasnt there before 😄

[indigo wave]

how important are the element landmarks for t3 land? or should i get 2 t2 land

[lethal valley]

i think 2 t2 is better overall... unless you have a megacity (?) with a lot of T1s in it. at least thats my guess

[radiant sky]

energy?

[indigo wave]

yeah thought so, already got a t1 but do youthink spreading out in other regions is good?

[lethal valley]

yea for the power stations

[radiant sky]

in the early game element landmarks a pretty decent.
Midgame you don't need it anymore and endgame they are useless.
At least as long as there is no proper element sink implemented in the endgame

[lethal valley]

im so happy you finally got the apreciation you deseerved ^^

[radiant sky]

Ah, yea.
Production buildings now consume power, which you get from powerstations.
The power the Powerstations produce is spread between all buildings in it's aoe.
A powerstation produces more power if you level it up

[radiant sky]

what do you mean?

[lethal valley]

that you were here like all these noobs like me asking stupid questions
and then... you were so active and helping everyone... and you just kept going and going with awesome advice
and then got the helper role (or idk how it was called) and now finally a mod. i mean you deserved to be a mod way before other existing mods

[indigo wave]

are the fuelsites useful through out the game?

[radiant sky]

ah 😄
thank you mate, appreciate it.

[radiant sky]

yes, fuelsites let you produce fuel when you build an extractor on it.
Fuel is needed for all advanced upgrades of buildings in Zero, but also needed to play overworld.

You can use your fuel to either upgrade your buildings, transfer it to your ranger in the overworld or you simply just sell it on the FEX

[indigo wave]

ye thanks G, rusty on the game haha, thank you for your support

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[lethal valley]

omg why does speeding up cost so much now? 😐

what did i do wrong

🥹

[radiant sky]

yea, got pretty expensive.
I barely speed up anything, just bought some builders for my higher tier plots.

[lethal valley]

allright
how this builder thing work?
i used to only have 1

[radiant sky]

So... those tokens for speed ups you can also use to buy builders.
Tokens are bound to account so you can use them on all your plots.
Additional builders you bought are bound to the plot you bought them.

[lethal valley]

so i can build 2 structures at the same time if i have 2 builders right?

[radiant sky]

yea exactly

you can buy max 2 additional builders per plot

[lethal valley]

like this?

[radiant sky]

should send you to the window where you can hire the builder, yes.

if you hire him you have him permanently

not just for this building

2nd builder costs 400 if i remember right

[lethal valley]

oh ok

it would help if it would say that

[radiant sky]

true

[lethal valley]

how many coins for how many minutes is it now exactly?

[radiant sky]

think it's 1 coin for 10 min

🤔

pretty sure... but would have to log in to check 😄

[lethal valley]

yea that would make sense. it asked me for 12 coins for 2 hours

[radiant sky]

sounds about right then 🙂

[radiant sky]

by the way... max level is 201 at the moment.
You get a pretty good amount of free coins for leveling up to that level.
It's just not enough for both builders if i remember right, but close

[lethal valley]

what do u mean?
i cant develop my land when i get to level 201?

[indigo wave]

What is the buy way to buy land? using eth ilv.... through MM or immutable wallet... lots of options

[radiant sky]

no you get level up when you develop your land.
And you get free coins for level ups.

[lethal valley]

but i can develop my land past level 201 right?

like before

[radiant sky]

your land, yes

level, no

[lethal valley]

why

[radiant sky]

Doesn't really matter i think.
I guess buy it with that wallet you want your Land End up in, if it is passport or metamask linked to passport.

[hexed abyss]

Loading land plots sometimes take 2 seconds, sometimes 1 minute... Also now the plot order sometimes changes so I loose track which are done 😂 . Can't we just go back to previous Zero version?

[grand silo]

yeah my load times are random as well but only from the same plot

the other 3 plots are fine

[twin sequoia]

I guess that as leveling gives you coins, developers don´t want you to get infinite coins. When you reach level 201 you get 50 more coins and if you didn´t spend them speeding buildings (I regret I did with my free plot and first T1) you should have enough for the third builder (120 the second and 400 the third) or almost with coins from both lands. Anyway, don´t buy a third worker forT1, it is useless as you will be short on fuel. Just the sencond is enough (and recommended). For T2 and higher the third builder is a must (even if you have to buy some coins, it is not expensive if you consider the cost of the land itself).

[lethal valley]

how do i stop this thing? i wanna upgrade it but it wont stop working now

[sage bough]

Activity Menu (bottom left), then Production tab, then find the building and cancel production.

[tardy falcon]

0x6812b9ece52368950146161607f074d69db6cad4
This you @tall crypt ?

[lean bison]

I tried everything I even built a new research and a new lab to see also upgraded to max so what else 💀

I don't think I did find them all

But lately I guess the ones a find at the end was all T3 I'm sure there's more right?

[lean bison]

Was talking about overworld not Zero

[sharp jolt]

Gotcha. My question remains for both

[cerulean steppe]

Do we know when mega cities will be available ? Kieran said something about 6-8 weeks ?

[restive rivet]

Hi guys, I wanted to ask for some information: is it better to get a tier 1 land to be self-sufficient in the overworld or is it better to buy the fuel directly? if the land is cheaper is it better to take it with the crypton rift?

[worn bridge]

Anyone else having a lot of crashes on mobile since last update? Or just me?

[thorny crater]

Here you go

Squizz was found by someone before

[radiant sky]

you know when it was found?

[lean bison]

Wow! There too much still and with the new update! Lol
Only 2 T3 left then I'll upgrade the other one too to search for T4,5

Thx for the Map

[thorny crater]

Oh no sorry but I can find the person who sent me this. It’s my fav Mon so I was asking around a while back lol

This person #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

It’s also when I found this gif lol

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuvium-emote-emote-illuvium-animated-emote-animated-emote-gif-13252488379238030565

lol

[radiant sky]

yea, looks like he found it pre patch

[tardy falcon]

Maybe this is a dumb question.... how do you find stage 2 and 3 BPs?

I only get S1

[radiant sky]

I guess there are only Stage 1 BP.
Probably a leftover of the old blueprint design

[hardy brook]

Same with the T2 S2s. They've disappeared too from what I've seen others say.

[radiant sky]

Just the s2?
You found s3's?

[hardy brook]

I do have S3s but I'm not sure when I found them. If I had to guess I'd say pre patch so yeah maybe S3s too

[opal thistle]

[marsh idol]

could someone let me know which biodata are missing? I think i'm running my scanners for no reason.

[twin sequoia]

Right now, unfortunately, it is way cheaper to buy the fuel. Who knows in the future. But, even if buying fuel is cheaper now, if you believe that the game will success, you can also buy the land now that they are quite cheap (or wait and see if they get even cheaper).

For example #🛒〕land-dex message 😅

I will raise price when more converters are at lvl 5 and will keep it for my self if starting upgrading them to lvl 6

The fuel extractor is not so important, as it is easy to convert fuel inside the land. Carbon used for Crypton but is the most used resource to updgrade the land. And Silicon if you want to develop science buildings for BP. So I think the best would be Hyperion as Hydrogen is a bit less used. But it doesn´t matter much as you can go with 1/2 resource converters until you finish the development.

[radiant sky]

According to info gathered by community members, there are several data missing at the moment. (Patch 1.1.4)

Biodata that can't be found for now:

• squid line (Squizz, Octius, Ophisto)
• lynx lines (All T2 Illvuials (31 BD all together))
• mahmoth line (Mah'mu, Mah'tu, Mah'mut)
• Fennec fox line (Winq, Quinx, Ghazotep)
• Moth line (Ace, Artace, Monarch)
• Kangaroo line (Ti'ru, Tii'ruo, Tibi'Rukko )
• Dropbear line (Chucco, Chukoorl, Chukoondi)
• Red Panda line (Rai, Rai-Lu, Rai-Lee)

Blueprints that can't be found for now:

• Hilde
• Chopin

Please note, this is not an official statement!
This is just info gathered by community members, by playing the Game Illuvium:Zero

[marsh idol]

Ty, won't waste my fuel for now

[rose thicket]

have you found a 3 wide column of power stations right down the middle of the plot most optimal?

The simplicity of centralizing power is so eloquently simple yet innovative...never crossed my mind.

[spiral turtle]

Some peoples brains are bigger then others. Ill snapshot this and take 12 hours to unravel the mystery. I would of been interested to see what you would of done with a Mega City ?

[thorny crater]

That lucky sob

[restive rivet]

Thank you so much

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[lethal valley]

guys im kinda confused
team said there was an airdrop for holders during test and the play to airdrop campaign
i only have 1 land and some blueprints. is it normal i didnt get like... anything?

[stable minnow]

you can't send fuel to OW yet, can you?

Thanks mate!

[twilit ibex]

how to send fuel from account to zero plot?

[lethal valley]

wasnt there an airdrop before this phase started?

[opal thistle]

Nop, we are waiting for the start of season 3

[lethal valley]

no but when the testnet was released, before the open beta?
thre was that play to airdrop campaign? where land holders were supposed to get an airdropo just cause theyre holders? no?

[opal thistle]

Oh yes that is the loyalty Airdrop. The vesting period is already done

[lethal valley]

what does that mean

[opal thistle]

Here follow the link and collect your loyalty Airdrop
#📣〕announcements message

[whole spear]

Should have an update on them soon

[lethal valley]

ok i know its not related to illuvium but i forgot my metamask password 😄
any advice? 😄

[exotic oar]

Hi Guys can someone explain me what’s blueprints use and the system around it ?

[opal thistle]

Don't accept any DMs they are Scam

You can always open a new MM wallet extension and seed it with your old wallet. I'm not sure it's never happened to me but look it up in MM

[lethal valley]

yea it asked mee for the 12 word sequence. i didnt have that lol
i just used phantom instead. fuck metamask 😄

[opal thistle]

Or you can try Rabby wallet too and seed it with that wallet

[lethal valley]

phantom
i was already using it for solana so... its just easier for me

[opal thistle]

If you don't have your seed phrase then you are in serious problems

[lethal valley]

not really...
i can make a new wallet and transfer my assets to that one. and ill ahve the seed phrase for that 😄

ok i guss im not loyal enough 😄

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-loyalty-sethical-baku-damn-gif-25845668

[lethal valley]

🥹

[opal thistle]

But to be be honest the thing that gave most loyalty rewards were staking deposits

[lethal valley]

great. i staked 0 ILV 🥹

1.36 > 0
W? me

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-hynes-hynies-winter-in-vail-win-its-a-win-gif-19995828

[lethal valley]

ok what do i do here? my browser is not doing anything

[twin sequoia]

sometimes just close the game and open again. Or go to your profile in https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/account/profile and login. May be then the game recognize the login.

[lean bison]

Really? What was the rate? I'm planning to stake till maybe the end of Q1 next year

[humble wave]

Hii on which site I'm able to see my loyalty rewards ? And does a wallet change back in april affect this rewarda ?

[foggy bison]

Yikes! Awful...

Record low for me...

[lethal valley]

here #🎮〕illuvium-zero message
i thinnk it shouldnt. cause the snapshot is in april

[plain hamlet]

I need help nothing works on my land and I can’t do an ingame report

Contacted the support already but still no fix or anything

Just paid an upgrade lost all the ressources and structure didn’t upgrade

Converters don’t work either

[radiant sky]

it's super weird, that you are the only one reporting those 2 issues here in discord, unfortunately i don't know a fix to that either.
I don't know if i already mentioned it, but some general stuff to check:

• Make sure you downloaded the latest update (version 1.1.4 (you can check with clicking the 3 bars at the very top left > settings > info))
• Make sure your converters have enough power (there are ui bugs if it comes to power where it shows you have enough even if you don't. Just upgrade a couple powerstations arround those)
• Switch off VPN
• Do you play on multiple devices? If so, make sure to always properly logout before switching devices.

[plain hamlet]

• I’m on the latest version
• All my structure are full of power station around
• I don’t use a VPN
• I only play on my phone

I’m completely stuck right now

[opal thistle]

Sorry, loyalty rewards were already sent

[radiant sky]

i guess you already tried to:

• reinstall the game?
• reboot the device
• update your phone to the latest iOS?
• play it on another device (android, windows, macOS)

I know might sound stupid... but thats all stuff which solved problems in the past.

[humble wave]

Thx Thx I really forgot the loyalty rewards xD❤️

[lethal valley]

same 😛 just claimeed them mself yesterday

[radiant sky]

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[radiant sky]

@plain hamlet dm's are scams

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[small sundial]

Does the efficiency of Power Stations affect the passive efficiency of fuel converters?
Whether over time or in quantity ?

[exotic oar]

Hi guys I might be considering buying a land might go for a t3 but I wanted to gather a bit your opinion/vision on the game and it’s potential, is it worth buying a t3 land and is it profitable ?

[thorny crater]

No land is profitable yet.

T1- hard as crap to work
T2- a nice pace
T3-banger
T4 - godly

That said, until arena and OW is a hit. Land will never be profitable

[twin sequoia]

Power stations affect the efficiency of the converter for the passive production and the active conversion. The time generation and convertion is affected by the path bonus.

[small sundial]

However, I don't see any difference when I click on "info" between a converter at 50% and one at 150%.
Is this a ''hidden'' stats?

[golden spoke]

Is there a way to setup your land for scholars? I haven't been able to play in months and it's all just sitting.

[lean bison]

Too bad

I wish the best for the project anyway

[exotic oar]

Long term perspective than thanks for the clarification 🙏🏻

[thorny crater]

Anytime. I’ll be here for the glory or the bitter end. But I’ll alway give the information that I know so other can make the best informed decisions for themselves.