🎮〕illuvium-zero

[lost walrus]

Good thing for tier 1/2 holders we do have the time now to upgrade our land before this game takes on again

[upbeat drift]

how is Zero going?

fuel price better or worse than 1 month ago?

[vivid cipher]

I hope you reported that bug

https://tenor.com/view/hahahaha-gif-23335988

[vivid cipher]

The fuel prices 1 month ago were higher than now.

[upbeat drift]

so the nerf of the lands just slowed the bleeding

[vivid cipher]

illuvihub has a price tracker they built using google sheets

Below is the current price on the right side

Below is the price climbing a month ago.

[pearl marten]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-air-quotes-gif-18226933

[vivid cipher]

The supply was reduced by the fuel production nerf.

And then I assume supply rose over time as more lands continued producing more and more fuel and demand waned.

[cinder grove]

Why do they give “bonus” fuel. They could also just fix the selling price and forward the “bonus” revenue to the fuel sellers. The setup now will just decrease the selling prices the land owners enter further.
People are buying fuel, but they just get bonus fuel so they can play longer, need to buy more fuel as they get more than what they pay for. Not really getting this mechanism

[low river]

Nah. You need to wait around 4 days to play a t2 run if you buy a t2 land (around 150 fuel per day + some pasive income)

I use my t2 only for scanning

I don’t own a t3 but maybe thats your best shot

[radiant sky]

Meanwhile i'm sitting here analzying phiriox biodata, cause it's the rarest biodata i found on all my plots... Ever...

[uneven topaz]

I'm curious about scholarships. Is it okay to ask about them here? I've seen it mentioned in a few vids, but I'm not sure if it is worth pursuing. I've heard mixed things about land, so thanks in advance for your input

[pearl marten]

You'll get there buddy! No worries ...minting isn't live yet

Although i can do some private consultations about research dedicated plots ... for a small hourly fee of course 😄

[last tiger]

any tips or magical number for this to start loading my orders?

[last tiger]

where can i find this site brother

[uneven pulsar]

guys, the landmark is working dor passive generation resources?

[radiant sky]

the landmark gives you bonus efficiency and increases the max cap for the efficiency, so yes it does.

[uneven pulsar]

thx a lot

[radiant sky]

search for illuvihub on x

[last tiger]

brother u ar selling fuel?

[radiant sky]

sure

at least on the plots i have spare fuel

[last tiger]

no matter how low im putting the order doesnt load

[radiant sky]

started later, so i didn't benefit from early boost

[radiant sky]

check ledger, some interesting filters there

[last tiger]

what is the magical number to orders getting accepted

?

i wont open ilv site atm

seems its been an attack

[last tiger]

you can check the price people selling i guess

[radiant sky]

if you click ledger, you can click buy orders fullfilled or sell orders completed and get a feeling for what price you should sell if you want to sell fuel fast.

[last tiger]

u ar selling big chucks or just 100 fuel each time?

[last tiger]

how much per 100 fuel atm? +-

[radiant sky]

i usually do multiple small orders on my high tier.
low tier i'm not ready to sell sadly.

[radiant sky]

peanuts

[last tiger]

0.30 cents at least per 100 fuel?

just to get an ideia

[last tiger]

thank you brother

[shut wave]

I have talked about this before. Its a snake eating its own tail scenario. The original 10% + & - rails were a good idea. They should have stuck with that.

[cinder grove]

💯

[spring void]

The IMX security issue is exactly why a lot of land owners waited for read only wallet connect. Hope everyone stays safe!

[uneven pulsar]

Guys, can anyone please tell me which solution is better in terms of efficiency against quantity convectors for passive generation?

[sudden zinc]

Hello! I opened meanwhile 3 tickets to get solved the issue, that I did not get any preseason Rewards, although played every day!! Any idea?

[rotund forum]

Anyone know this? I have a L5 scanner which according to its info needs 3600 electricity. There is a L9 powerstation right next to it that has output 14000 and yet it won´t run. There is also a L2 pasted against it, and no other building anywhere near. I don´t get it.

[full zinc]

Try moving the scanner to a different location (even if you move it back to the original spot afterward). It might not be receiving power due to a bug.

[rotund forum]

ok didn´t move it but pasted a L9 and L6 to it and now it runs. So the amounts indicated are not to be trusted. They need a LOT

[cinder grove]

Where can you see this?

[hexed abyss]

Yeah, not free-market at all. Land owners are having to compete with each other by lowering fuel price, while OW players buy at a fixed/higher price and get a bonus (at the Zero players expense). It's like a unfair rule central-bankers would create 🤪

[cinder grove]

Trying to find my Loyalty Airdrop rewards, any idea where I can find that? I did not claim them yet as there was a 3 months vesting, no idea where it is now

[full zinc]

in illuvidex select profile/missions/history

[royal nymph]

are you serious ?? this cannot be true bro, until now not a single announcement from the team and today they talk about Beyond wave 3 just to add salt to injury... everyday that passes and every action taken just makes things worse

[cinder grove]

There I only see reward points Season 1.
Not the Loyalty Reward ILV tokens they distributed based on land you own, Staked ILV, Beyond NFT etc.

[uneven pulsar]

Maybe you know which solution is better in terms of efficiency against quantity convectors for passive generation?

[cinder grove]

I think high efficiency and less convertors is better than 36 convertors (I think that is the max) with 50% efficiency (80% with a landmark)

You will make about the same amount of fuel in both cases, but upgrading all additional convertors and power stations will cost you more fuel and you need to click more to collect.

[full zinc]

#📣〕announcements message

[cinder grove]

That is the one!! Thanks 🙏

[honest dome]

Hello all. I am brand new to the world of Illuvium and i was wondering how important is it to own land in Zero and what the benefits are? I watched a few videos and I am still not sure how important it is for me to consider buying land? I know with the free land you cant sell resources. Is it costly to maintain land once you buy land?

[cinder warren]

Purchase Error
There was an error while purchasing.

why？

[open stratus]

You buy it, build it, and generate your own fuel you can use for overworld play (or sell it) you can also make armor/drone skin blueprints (yet to be able to be minted)

[full zinc]

At first, it requires a lot of attention, but as you level up your buildings, you’ll need to log in fewer times a day. For example, max-level fuel extractors take 24 hours, and the mines to extract resources take 15 hours. The good news is that lands retain their configuration and level when sold, so you could potentially buy a developed land and not have to dedicate as much time. In the market, you can’t see the land's progress, but you can on #🛒〕land-dex.

T2 lands or higher have a much easier time progressing compared to T1, as T1 only has 1 fuel, and you need a lot of fuel to upgrade your buildings to higher levels.

Keep in mind that it would be a long-term investment, as it's difficult to recover the cost of the land just by selling fuel (I’ve never sold skins, so I don’t know the prices), although the price and demand for fuel can change with market spikes or Illuvium events.

[cinder warren]

@full zincAccept the offer, can't make it! Show Purchase Error
There was an error while purchasing.

Can you tell me why?

[honest dome]

@open stratus @full zinc thank you both very much for responding to my question. Where is the best place to purchase land? I did check out Illuvidex and I see T1 land sells for around $200 USD and higher. Is that the best place to look for land?

[open stratus]

Illuvidex yeah for sure. T1 are tough to play though

[honest dome]

Strepi also seems to recommend at least a T2 as well. Thank you @open stratus

[full zinc]

Sometimes there are errors when making transactions on Illuvidex, I experience them too. When it happens to me, I refresh the page and try again. Sometimes it works 😅 .

[tranquil sparrow]

T1 is hard or buy my nexus 9 T1 for 300$ hehehe

[full zinc]

Yes, as King of Jabronis mentioned, the best place to buy Illuvium land is Illuvidex. The floor price for T1 land is $160, and for T2 land it's $410, but make sure to study the market and how the land works if you're serious about buying. Depending on the elements (fuel and minerals), it could be either a really bad or a great choice. Each fuel extractor requires a resource to function (e.g., the Hyperion extractor consumes hydrogen; if you buy land without a hydrogen mine (lake), you'll have to convert that mineral so your extractor keeps working, and managing the land will require a bit more effort)

[cinder warren]

I tried many times!@full zinc

I feel like the website is playing tricks on me!

[full zinc]

I think IMX is having issues!, we’ll have to wait for it to be resolved.

[sudden zinc]

as I did not get an answer so far...

@whole spear Hello! I opened meanwhile 3 tickets to get solved the issue, that I did not get any preseason Rewards, although played every day!! Any idea? Thanks!

[timber sapphire]

The more tickets you make the longer it will take. Just be patient

[radiant sky]

good evening, ser.
Opening multiple tickets about the same problem/bug doesn't help really, it even slows down the whole support process.
What's actually the problematic? Did your points get set back to zero? Which preseason you are talking about, PS-1 or PS-2?

[sudden zinc]

Many Thanks! I was waiting 2 weeks before I submit a second one! Both! I only got so far the Rewrads for the long term holder of land.. which is claimable since begin of September but nothing for the PS... Even Though played every day... Thanks!!!!

[radiant sky]

but you can see the points and reward in your history?
something like this?

[fierce jetty]

Already any news or fix for the 'stuck in loading screen' error?

[radiant sky]

unfortunately not yet.

[royal nymph]

ZERO acknowledgement
ZERO perspectives
ZERO respect
that are the news

[hazy tartan]

@south mural gotta rehash this one, you sure you caught the collect bar as soon as you could on your converters?

This one before the turn of the bottom right

[slim ice]

We should be able to know what the requirements to upgrade a building are even if the building is busy atm. Having to wait for it to clear it's activity to finally know what we need to collect to upgrade it is just painful. The info should be shown in the "info" section, what do you guys think? @whole spear @radiant sky

[radiant sky]

make sure to leave that as feedback ingame.
Got mentioned a lot, but the more they receive it as a feedback the more they consider implementing it i guess.

imo you should see all lvl with cost, production numbers and building time in an overview of each building in the structure menu

[errant pollen]

I've got a level5 Singularity Scanner stuck at 21h 44mins left.
I stoped it, moved the scanner, started again, and no again stuck at 21h 44 mins.
It has enough energy...
Any advice? I am losing fuel every time I cancel and restart...

[radiant sky]

power ui can be buggy.
try upgrading powerstations nonetheless.
should start working then again

[stoic rapids]

upgrading powerstations beyond what it said I needed always fixed my stuck buildings

[mortal mural]

What’s with all the security issues in crypto right now? Is bull coming?

We need a golden cardulox

[grand silo]

gm All, im happy as I have 2 just checking that its correct. bio data you cant get more than one are bps different?

[radiant sky]

Youwelcome

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/detective-pikachu-well-i-can-feel-that-in-my-jellies-i-can-feel-it-im-feeling-it-i-can-feel-that-gif-25432351

[mortal mural]

Woah I forgot this existed

I can’t stop looking at it lol

[hoary gazelle]

is there any cap for hyperionconverter ? like how often can i build this building

[radiant sky]

haha, yea it's mad 🙂

[radiant sky]

• 12 each converter total of 36 (some said they couldn't build more than 35 total)
• 5 scanners
• 5 matlabs

[hoary gazelle]

thx 🙂

[icy thicket]

Lol and here I am with less than 10 😆

[icy thicket]

Anyone got some Tier 3 plots they are willing to share? Focused on fuel?

[mortal mural]

Mine are hibrid and not updated on last converter patch but you could just remove scanners and put more converters and put some more converters in between others

[harsh dew]

I feel bad that my T2 land keep crashing on my iPhone but the default land is not crashing. Since, last patch efficiency dropped.

[mortal mural]

One got like 12 converters and the other has like 14

As hibrid I bet I can do 15 -17

[somber plume]

thank you for giving me the reason why im not playing this anymore 👍

[mortal mural]

As pure fuel I think I can do 22+
My t2 are at 17 (hibrid) and 22 as a pure fuel

I gonna start reworking my t3 again . I’m done with t2s (just need upgrading)

[icy thicket]

Ya my fuel numbers are so low compared to your stockpile 😆

I am working on biodatas right now

[mortal mural]

My t3s got 3 scanners currently at 100% but one at 96% I think

[mortal mural]

If I knew fuel price would tank I would have gone pure blueprints first

But it is what is I’m pretty happy with my hibrid builds. But I think I can do better . T3 s are my first builds. And learn a lot from them

[mortal mural]

Used the knowledge in my t2

Then I learned a bunch with t2 so gotta rework my t3/ lol

[icy thicket]

I will need to rework my land - but built a ton of Powerplants for extra buildings 😆

Working on getting all my Tier 2 & 3 biodata, then focusing on Tier 4 and 5 😉

[mortal mural]

Omg that t3 is so good for scanners

[mortal mural]

Lemme show you my t2s I found a way to make better use of space for scanners

I actually think using the corner for a scanner is kinda more wasteful

I think this is better but it might be just my plots

Worth a shot trying the idea though

I think you can do 5 scanners

[icy thicket]

Ahhh I see what you mean.... i might have to move some around....

Could probably move top left over (single) then 2 down the center and 3 down the right

I know I had 5 scanners but sold one to get better percentages for the other 4

[mortal mural]

You can move around some and check if you can do 5 with bettter % than now before commiting to building one. The o my thing is moving things around is other puzzle itself

Some people just sell the filler structures like lvl 1 power plants or lvl1 storage and then move things around and when finished build again

Te building like 20 power plants with 3 workers is like a 7 minute aferre all

After all*

Really cool plot you got there. I don’t like the bioma but that’s just a personal preference

I like taiga and halcyon and abyssal basin, but I like the earth and fire illuvials better. But that’s life lol

This is my t2 only fuel. I think I can still optimize but gonna rework my t3 first

22 converters i thinks

I found also this was a better way too 👍

[grand silo]

all in one day?

[mortal mural]

Also I decided on some conveters on lower efficiency because at max would be a net profit on fuel. But tried no to abuse much since roi would be a lot longer. Because maxing too many conveters that are not max output efficiency is too costly

[vocal ridge]

Hey everyone, hope all are well, hey a put a few support tickets in but does anyone know an expected time frame for when the tree network error will be fixed, I literally can't build anything new without a tree getting in the way, it's limiting my ability to gain fuel obviously, I know the team has a lot to deal with right now but is anyone else experiencing this issue and is this being worked on? It's been happening fo about a month or so now

[vocal ridge]

Wow ok I had didn't realise this at all, I probably should have researched the game more, thanks for pointing that out for me, I'll go ahead and delete a bunch of power plants delete some trees and hope for the best! Thanks a lot!

[vocal ridge]

Got you, thanks a lot super hamster 🙂

[deep tide]

This might be a dumb question but how do you sell fuel? I have a tier 1 land

[vivid cipher]

~~to transfer fuel to your overworld account Open the resource storage menu in the top right. ~~

[vivid cipher]

Oh sorry. You said sell. Go to the fuel exchange on the website and SELL

One problem is that it’s overly complicated to know what the most recently sold fuel was priced at as well as what the lowest listed price of fuel is. It can be done by pressing the setting switch and looking at the ledger in the drop down menu.

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/fuel-exchange?section=lite

[steep forge]

Guys, I can't log in either from my phone through the apple store or through epic from my PC, I tried all the proxies and vpns to no avail, help me))

[vivid cipher]

Can you log in here? https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/

[vivid cipher]

You can post screenshots in #❓❗〕community-help if you are getting errors

[steep forge]

the game opens next, just a screensaver and that's it, it doesn't even offer to log in

I don't want to sell, I want to play

[steep forge]

sure

[vivid cipher]

Is this the game at launch or after attempting to open a specific plot?

I’m guessing at launch. But want to confirm

Contacting support is likely the way to find a solution.

[lethal wyvern]

Illuvium Support

If you need assistance or wish to report a bug, we're here to help! Visit our Help Center at http://link.illuvium.io/support for comprehensive support resources.

For personalized assistance, chat with m0z4rt in the bottom-right corner. Our virtual assistant, m0z4rt, will try to resolve your query, and if needed, connect you directly with the support team.

Additionally, for bug reports or crashes specifically in Illuvium: Arena and Illuvium: Overworld, please use the in-game reporter. This can be opened by pressing 'B' within the game, allowing you to directly report issues from within the game.

[vivid cipher]

When was the last time you were able to successfully log in and play Zero?

[steep forge]

when I played the previous version everything was fine

[vivid cipher]

When was that? On testnet in June?

Or last week?

[steep forge]

The game screensaver (background) just opens and that's it

[steep forge]

I think I took it and played it during a testnet a couple of months ago

[vivid cipher]

Have you removed any old builds and installed the new builds? The actual AppStore on iPhone not TestFlight?

[vivid cipher]

Are you able to open the Illuvium arena/overworld game from the epic store?

[steep forge]

Most likely, you have added some countries to the ban, thank you very much, it's very nice

I just wanted to play 😄

the mind does not comprehend logic, just superintelligence

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[vivid cipher]

Yeah VPN/IP address blocking could be the cause. Except not if you can log in to the site or the other game as I was asking about.

[steep forge]

probably because of this, the flora of the lands broke the second bottom)

[pearl marten]

Yep

[grand silo]

dammm

[timber sapphire]

It's save to log into passport again right?

[pine kestrel]

Hi. It's possible that someone has encountered a similar problem. No operation for scanning Biodata is successful. Numerous times in a row. I built a new Databank (level 1) - it was as if successful operations for finding Biodata appeared right after that. I upgraded the Databank to a higher level - and again it stopped finding Biodata. Is this a coincidence or somehow related? Has anyone encountered the issue where no operation for finding Biodata is successfully completed? For several days. Perhaps there is some error in the game? Exactly the same situation with Research Fact.

[cloud lion]

does multiple tabs for zero can be opened?

[verbal igloo]

An account cannot be used from multiple instances in parallel

[cloud lion]

I see, thanks for confirming

[verbal igloo]

this is not something that we are aware of. I would say it is purely a coincidence

[lapis ingot]

I am currently too busy running my 3 T1‘s. Are there any options to rent them?

[velvet sequoia]

I tried scanning for biodata 4-5 times, never found anything so I stopped. Bad luck I guess

[glad badge]

Is the level of illuvials you can find with the scanner bind to the tier of the land or by the level of the scanner ? Example : t1 land can only find t1 illuvials even if scanner gets upgraded

[noble crag]

can someone explain is it possible to make scanner 150% efficient? mine is 100% max
based on this patch notes:
The overall rate of a successful scan has been changed. Previously, it ranged from 25% to 75% based on efficiency (from 50% to 150% efficiency, respectively). This has been reduced to 11% to 41% based on efficiency (from 50% to 150% efficiency, respectively)

@verbal igloo maybe you know? ☝🏻 also I have already 7 negative scans in a row (basically no successful scan after the patch) which doesn't look like 25% of success rate for 100% efficiency. Can team check if something is broken and rate is much lower?

[verbal igloo]

the 150% efficiency for the scanner was a typo issue. It should have been fixed by now, will look into it.
Will forward the concerns of failing scans to the team, but we are not aware of any issues with it

[noble crag]

if it's a typo, that would mean I need to have 40% success with 100% efficiency, but I have 0 success, it's definitely broken than

[noble crag]

I'm not sure if my list of biodata is the same as it was before patch, I will try to track if it's a UI issue when biodata is added, but not show as found

[verbal igloo]

that shouldnt be the case. I forwarded this to the team so we can have a look at it

[cinder fractal]

Sometimes I don't find anything for a few days in a row and I'm scanning with 3 scanners and doing research with 5labs but sometimes I get multiple biodata and blueprints in one day, there is no rule

[tranquil sparrow]

stuck building this daymn

[sudden zinc]

GM! Can we interact with IMX again? Or still hack issues? @whole spear

[noble crag]

if you have 3 scanners at 100% efficiency you need to have at least! 1 blueprint per scan cycle in average, did you found that amount in total after the patch? if you scan daily since 10-sept you should have more than 14 new blueprints

@verbal igloo also I'm not sure how duplicated blueprints appears. Can I possibly find the same blueprint which apparently will be a waste as we only need one? This may explain lower chances of find something new.

[grand silo]

is there a limited window for the blueprints we are currently going for?

[cosmic spade]

still no update to MEGA Cities??

[verbal igloo]

Yes, blueprint duplicates can be found

[tranquil sparrow]

Yea realized that kinda late lmao, thanks for the tip

[noble crag]

Will we see this in results screen? Cause I would expect it to be shown and marked as duplicate instead of "nothing new found" which is quite disappointing when empty screen many-many times in a row

[verbal igloo]

yes, you should see it in the result window

[noble crag]

ok, than it's not my case 😅

[cinder fractal]

I'm not keeping a record of how many I get on average but there is also a factor how the more blueprints you have the harder it is to get a new one at least my logic is telling me that

[noble crag]

@verbal igloo also to add to your message for the team, I only have 7 biodata found atm. This may be important note

[pearl marten]

I assure you it's working and you just have to persist.

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

I think the scan rates are where they should be and even said before mu discoveries they should've been lower.

If things aren't rare people don't have anything to go for
If 20% plots get T5s3 BPs in a matter of 3 months from launch that wouldn't be good at all imo, taking into account IL Zero is a game for years to come

Initial rates where too high . At least the BP chances seem pretty low which is good

[fair temple]

Arent there already duplicates of T5S3 blueprints?

[pearl marten]

Blueprints idk .. biodata yes they are a few... with the BPs it's more difficult to get the same as the neighbor because there are 18 diffferents suits

Which is good

[fair temple]

I read here that someone had 5 Dualeph blueprints already. If thats true, it is crazy.

[pearl marten]

I have 2 Adorius ones... one for a Tier 1 armor and the other for a tier 2 armor so they are different

[fair temple]

That was actually you who said that 😄 i thought it would take 6 months to get such blueprints.

Or maybe then the T5 armor from a T5 S3 blueprint is very rare?

[timid sorrel]

how's fuel doing, still worth 0?

[pearl marten]

It wasn't me .. i think Baloth has them as he discovered Dualeph before me.

Yeah i haven't seen even a Tier 4 armor BP for the high stages biodata let alone a Tier5

[pearl marten]

But yeah i totally agree ... 6 months for such rarity would be very good

[fair temple]

Well lets hope they dont just drop out of the sky tomorrow then ^^

[pearl marten]

I wouldn't mind if they drop on my plot though😁

Also remember that there are 3 different Tier 5 suits .. so very low chances there are duplicate at least for now/coming weeks

[thorny crater]

I’m still ing to find the Hilda atlas drone BP. I heard it’s bugged but idc

[radiant sky]

it seems to be so.
wonder what other bp's are bugged

[noble crag]

Man, I have only 7 s1 biodata that I have found before patch, I have 7 scans in a row without any new being found. How much is percentage for me? It's definitely not 40% as sated in article

As you probably have found all s1 biodata before patch you cannot evaluate if the percentage is correct from your experience

[noble crag]

@verbal igloo I actually meant biodata in my question, sorry for confusion. Is your answer actual for biodata as well?

[tired aurora]

Got the reply from support. It's a known bug somehow related to that my plot's maximum buildings are reached. :) Thanks for the help tho.

[polar cosmos]

We will have tournaments in illuvium zero?

[pearl marten]

Sorry but then it means you hit 7 timea in a row the 60% chance of not finding... which is not such a rare probability

Imo bio should be rare and I've been saying this for some timw now

[mortal mural]

It happens to me too. I just keep removing the plants until there is no more

[noble crag]

I'm not discussing if it should be rare or not, I'm saying that percentage declared by development team is not working

[hazy tartan]

Is it worth slamming 12 50% converters on top of my 21 126+% converters, what level do they give more than 2 per passive 144?

[cinder grove]

Average of whatever happens would be better

[radiant sky]

thanks for the feedback, good to know. 🙂

[hazy tartan]

This was my thought, wondering what the l4 total is for them at 50% is it .5 per day from each? Also I’d have to clear up a single location to move them to in the inbetween of swapping them but was assuming this was how collection worked

[radiant sky]

you sure about that?
if so, please report as a bug.
Efficiency should actually be determined all the time, at least that was the plan to implement.

[hazy tartan]

I’m pretty sure he’s right about that

Efficiency at start of cycle holds, or else you’d be able to move to max at end of cycle and collect doing the same thing

[radiant sky]

@verbal igloo you guys aware about that?

[verbal igloo]

Even tho the UI shows the efficiency of the structure in real time, the activity does not behave like that.
Once an activity has started, the structure efficiency is being recorded. Changing the structure efficiency can only affect negatively the efficiency of the already running activity.
For example:
Lets say you have a 100% efficiency converter and you start a convert activity.
a) If you move a structure nearby, that increases the efficiency to 120%, the outcome of the convert activity will still be calculated for the initial 100%.
b) If you move a structure that reduces the efficiency to 80%, this will become the new base value that will calculate the outcome of the activity (even if you try increasing the efficiency back to 100% or higher)

[noble crag]

It's crazy that you cannot move building as you risk to lower the efficiency till the end of cycle

[radiant sky]

ah, so it's not real time but still prevents the move arround stuff.
good to know.
Appreciate the fast response 🙂

[pearl marten]

But that's not how it works unfortunately. If you have a 6 out of 10 chance at something and it fails it doesn't mean the 7th time is a guaranteed win

The way it works is that every time you scan (or at the finish) you get a random nr between 1-100 ... for ex if it's between 1-40 the scan is succesfull but if it's higher then it fails... doesn't really matter how many times you were succesful or failed before the current attempt

[noble crag]

I know how it works, but team need to check it

[verbal igloo]

We are not aware of this, but thats how it should be working. I can forward it to the team so we can take another look at it

[hazy tartan]

Pure fuel t1, we will see what we get when we max her out, 1 of each max convert+passive, 6 of each max passive, and 4 of each 50% for some supplemental

[verbal igloo]

not sure about that part 😄

[tranquil sparrow]

what the hell...
didn't know 2 fuel converters can get that close
how many u plan to build?

[noble crag]

indeed, that's why team should come up with better solution, but with how fast the changes are applied it can be in several years

[thorny crater]

Noice!

[near saffron]

have imx on illuvium cannot see it does anyone have the same problem

[hazy tartan]

That’s at 2 below total max so I’ll hold it here and keep upgrading, but hamster is right, those are purely for a little bit of supplemental, I’ll see like 6 per day total from the 12 combined so it’s not much but something

[hazy tartan]

Even got myself a singular biodata prior to rearranging and a research facility so I can get a few BP as well for funsies

[tranquil sparrow]

daymn, imma following your technique

[thorny crater]

Hell yeah man. I just got my t1 to lvl 8, and the other working on 9….in 3 more days 😅

I want more stage 2/3 runs so double timing my t1 productions lol…hago mi mejor lol

[hazy tartan]

I’m happy if I can come out with around 2 stage 2 runs per week, that’s about what I hit rn with the time I have to play OW

I don’t run stage 3, I wanna make a beast arena team with only lower tier illuvials like below 4 maybe one or two tier 4

[compact nebula]

Why is fuel prices dumping?

I got a shock trying to sell some fuel after storing them for afew days

[radiant sky]

i guess because supply is higher than demand

[broken roost]

With season 3 paused demand is going to go to 0

I like the changes but they have to address fuel supply again, otherwise it will be really sad for people who payed a decent amount for fuel to see their assets devalue. I expect another zero nerf

[noble crag]

I honestly don't understand the attitude to keep price high for 5 people who will keep playing OW after season 2. Nerfing Zero won't change any income for landowners, it's only will benefit dao and punish 5 people who will still support this game

[cosmic sinew]

the land roi is over 5 years now

why should they nerf it?

[noble crag]

cause they don't care about landowners

[cosmic sinew]

they don't care about anything

they already got rich in 2021

[broken roost]

ROI is not going to change, it only depends on how much people spend on the game

[broken roost]

I don't expect you to

[radiant sky]

Higher fuel prices is not necessarily higher revenue

[broken roost]

I know, that's what I meant

It's only a way to keep rhamphyres from being worth 50c

Nothing else changes

Aside from the ability of landowners to play the game now that they can transfer fuel, that also changes

[prime loom]

The game will only be significantly better in 6 months. Landowners can guage the progress trajectory in 3 months.

If it's not promising by then, either sell or shut up.

But fuel demand will be nonexistent until then

[broken roost]

True. Although you are in no position to tell people when or when not to speak

The rest I agree

Well I'd say 12 months

[cosmic sinew]

significantly better isn't enough

they rushed things and now the whole game economy is ruined

[broken roost]

I wouldt say they rushed it, they took 4 years. They just fucked up priorities and now it's all boring

[cosmic sinew]

It's rushed when you deliver a bad and incomplete product

[broken roost]

We have 1 decent game with a bugged boring game mode(arena)
1 boring card opener (ow)
1 joke of a game zero

[prime loom]

The implication was that repeatedly complaining about fuel prices is a very big waste of energy. I think coming up with implementable ideas is a much better use of these conversation channels.

[cosmic sinew]

tbh I only like the arena/gauntlet modes

the overworld is extremely boring

[broken roost]

Yeah I agree. Complaining is part of the discussion though

Some of us are done trying to post solutions, we tried for years to no avail

[broken roost]

Fair take, it is

[prime loom]

I think the crappy Vetemore fuel bonus system messed up the economy more than the 'incompleteness' of the game.

An order book would give both fuel sellers and the DAO so much more useful data.

[cloud pecan]

some guy bought 2k and got a 12k bonus

[radiant sky]

fuel bonus system had no direct impact on the economy.

[radiant sky]

he probably sold on one end and bought on the other end.
or another guy tried it and was to slow 😄

[sharp jolt]

Not enough people buying

[hallow lotus]

Hi all! New to the space and have a question. I downloaded zero for mobile and started with a tier 2 plot. Is this an arbitrary plot of land that’s for free to play only or would it be of similar value to the plots that are listed on the market place?

[fair temple]

Answered in #💬〕general message

[stoic rapids]

Im expecting another nerf to fuel production soon

nobody's playing

[true cradle]

sad but true

[radiant sky]

not sure making the game more expensive would help to counter that problematic.

[stoic rapids]

yeah but they wont let rhamphyres go for pennies

[tardy falcon]

u mean really good? I like cheap fuel cuz easier for newbies to play...

[tardy falcon]

nah... they already said nerf was just one easy lever to pull to adjust economy... i think they'll go a different route for another mod

[stoic rapids]

I suppose they could raise fuel needed to do a run, but that's functionally the same

can't see them touching the 19:1 dao ratio

[tardy falcon]

yep... but if u believe in the long term success then cheap fuel is temporary and a nice thing for those wanting to play or think about playing

I know I'm stocking up

Fuel will be the game economy for more than just OW... it'll be for d1sks and other mintable things

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/swan-swanbitcoin-bitcoin-bitcoim-dca-gif-17083178

[tardy falcon]

why not 😋

[radiant sky]

not 2 chicken nuggets where i live

[old stump]

Hey everyone, I have a Singularity Scanner on one of my plots that won't function. Anyone else have an issue with them? I started a scan, but it never progresses. I have several upgraded power stations around it and a road connecting it. Nothing else is around it. I can't speed up or stop the scan, so I can't move or sell the structure. I submitted a ticket, but still looking for a workaround or resolution.

[tranquil sparrow]

daymnnn ☠️

[radiant sky]

there can be a bug in the power UI.
even tho you seem to have enough power, upgrade some powerstations close to it anyways, and it will start scanning.

[tribal zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/daitroksgiphy-roblox-nugget-nugget-nugget-man-face-roblox-man-face-gif-10810858097811346437

[thorny crater]

Err that a stage 1 run? Stage 3 is almost 10$

[vivid cipher]

Looks like he’s including the bonus fuel in his calculation

[hazy tartan]

Was going to say that’s about 5/6 runs

[shell heart]

Can you have more than 1 data bank?

[hazy tartan]

I need to have the scanner to build the transducer but do I need to keep it to keep the transducer?

Could I build, then destroy once it’s built

[vivid cipher]

Yes. Up to 5

[hazy tartan]

Yeah, my thought was build scanner and transducer then hopefully destroy scanner

Transducer looks tiny, scanner is most certainly not

[rose thicket]

I concur and mathematically demonstrated based on my own T3s why the "75% fuel production nerf" 45 days ago would not offset taking a commodity whose supply is scheduled to exponentially increase and multiplying it by a factor of 19, which would create an extremely inefficient and disorderly market. As fuel continues to hug the floor, I hope somebody who influences economic decisions has started to ask better questions. Granted, without an exponential demand increase, this will not matter in the end, but it is a foundational issue that will continue to sabotage landholders until it is resolved, no matter how much demand increases.

[hazy tartan]

Can always throw it back in the corner where my pileup of converters are down the line, I’ll worry about more when my 5% chance nets me my max I can get

Have one BP so far for impervium suit which is dope

[thorny crater]

Ah I won’t be doing that lol

[thorny crater]

I have 2 max lvl 3 that give me 105 spots

Two on. T3 so close to make too

2 more upgrades. Scanner is being done going to lvl 5, then just one lab upgrade to lvl 5 and DONE

[cloud lion]

does the builder gets reset when the land is transferred?

[vivid cipher]

Yes.

Extra Builders are lost when land is transferred between accounts.

[cloud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/nollywood-cry-desespoir-black-boy-cry-black-kid-cry-gif-21448854

[jovial valley]

where can i find the Link to the mission dashboard, please ?

[vivid cipher]

IlluviDex

Account.

Profile

Missions.

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/account/missions?tab=all

[iron laurel]

Has there been any news as to how workers will function in Mega Cities? Will there be only 3 allowed in a 4 plot city or 12?

[radiant sky]

latest info was 12

[iron laurel]

Worth me getting a 3rd worker on them then.
Thanks!

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[iron laurel]

Thank you for always keeping up with everything land. I rely on you so much to know the things I don't. Appreciate you.

[radiant sky]

Thank you very much 🙂
appreciate you appreciating me

https://tenor.com/view/bow-thank-you-thanks-gif-15510535

[hot haven]

Hi guys, can someone super smart dm me about fuel selling? I have some questions 🤗

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[polar cosmos]

@robust phoenix are you active? i see you have MC in IZ, let me know if u want to trade

[slim ice]

Will do, thanks

[pearl ferry]

Is there an explanation on materials lab somewhere? I can’t research anything

[radiant sky]

• In Materials lab you can research biodata which you can Find with your Scanner.
• the Level of the Materials lab determines which Tier of biodata you can research ( lvl 1 mst lab can research t1 biodata., lvl 2 mat lab can research t1-T2 biodata etc.
• the research has 3 outcomes; failure, success (grants you a blueprint), or you Find a fact(which should increase the Chance to Find a blueprint when researching biodata of the illuvial the fact is about
• the higher the efficiency, the higher your Chance of a successful research

[pearl ferry]

Okay so scan for illuvial, when you successfully find illuvial then you research?

[radiant sky]

Exactly
You will also need databanks to Store your biodata and blueprint data.
You have a standard storage of 5 which will be increased with Building databanks and Upgrade them.

[pearl ferry]

Thank you so much for all the info much appreciated!

[gentle grove]

When is BP minting

[mortal bough]

Need more infomation on the milestones, my multiplier is broken, says 1x.

[topaz wing]

Are quests done in free land counted in Illuvium Zero?

[little moon]

yep

[mortal bough]

@radiant sky does this make sense? I have put a lot of hours and money in, would think I would have at least stumbled into a milestone with 4 lands purchased and getting cultivated hourly/daily, lots of hours of forging and capturing in OW, some arena play and just recently getting my first illuvitar from the beyond dex...

[tribal zealot]

hours and milestones are not counted on S2

only daily and weekly count

[topaz wing]

ty

[mortal bough]

Where can I see the milestones so they can be targeted?

[opal thistle]

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-or-the-path-forward-lessons-from-minting-bots-and-mission

[mortal bough]

Okay, so nobody is getting multipliers for this season is the takeaway from that read.

[opal thistle]

Correct, milestones were being botted, so no more of those this season

[mortal bough]

Right on, well hoping to see some decent rewards, 1440th does not seem that great though

[mortal bough]

Do we know the total amount of season points, or will that not be known until the end?

[keen quail]

Anyone knows about this? It stays freezed and can't get out even closing the game. Also got zero lands login bugged for almost 3 weeks...

[celest wagon]

we agree that it is not worth doing the road ?

[opal thistle]

We won't know until the rewards are shown

[thorny crater]

It’s worth it. I don’t wake up at odd hours but 19/20hr production is better than 24hr with 17%

[serene iris]

So with the pausing of seasonal rewards we can expect a big dip in the need for purchasing fuel for next month. This is probably going to crash the fuel market even further!

Is there any plan to prevent fuel prices going to 0 during this time?

Would love to hear some thoughts from @bitter glade or someone else who might know. Or is the plan to just hold on for a toughish month?

[knotty sable]

On the scanners, how many illuvials can you find for each stage?

[little moon]

only 1 per scan with a 5% chance

the tier of the bio-data you get depends on the lvl of the scanner

[knotty sable]

How many total can you find for each lvl scanner? I’ve heard it’s best to find all the illuvial for each stage before upgrading?

[little moon]

you can find the bio-data for all the illuvials at each lvl......

if you have space for more than 1 scanner and can have them at 100% efficiency, you could have 1 at lvl 1 and the other at lvl 2

I have seen people with 5 scanners each at different lvls..... 1 thru 5

[stoic rapids]

sometimes I find lower level biodata than the scanner

[radiant sky]

scanner level, just opens the ability to scan for higher tier biodata, you can still find lower tier ones.
for example with a lvl 5 scanner you can find biodata of T1-T5 illuvials

[spring void]

Do you know if someone has created a scanning/research guide so we know how how many biodata and blueprints at each level, tier and illuvial there are?

[radiant sky]

in theory there are all t1-t5 illuvial biodata.
and you can find 4 drone and 15 suit BP each biodata.
however, seems 2 drones are bugged and you can't find them actually and i don't know if all armor bp are in or if there are also bugged ones.

[spring void]

Ok that's still helpful to have a theoretical benchmark. I want aware of the 4 and 15 BPs

[void bay]

Hello guys sorry if it's the wrong section but no one is answering me on the others

I am trying to migrate my old wallet to passport account, but it gets stuck on this one

on the sign to authorise loading

keeps loading forever

do you know if anyone faced this issue or how to solve this

It says this :

1. Open Your Wallet

Ensure your wallet is open and accessible.

2. Sign to Authorise

Follow the prompts in your wallet to sign and authorise signing into Illuvium.

I Sign from my wallet and then keeps loading

forever

[radiant sky]

it's basically a bp for creating a skin for each suit and drone

[stray lark]

My game won't start and keeps returning to the plot selection screen. Does anyone know how to solve this?

[radiant sky]

have you tried clearing cache and cookies, restarting browser, use a different browser, deactivating all other wallet extensions in your browser settings?

[radiant sky]

contact #❓❓〕support

[spring void]

I didnt realize each drone had a unique skin. Figured the 1 skin would apply to all 4 drones

[thorny crater]

T2 nexus 9 just put my last power station. I still have room but can’t put more than 202 buildings lol

Just maxing all the converters and the last Solon pump them that’s it

[fluid prairie]

Anyone else has issues with the game? It's does not load the land even thoguh I can hear the music as if I am in the game

Have to mention that it;s a free plot

[minor hazel]

just checked, logged into f2p and paid plots just fine and processed tasks in each. fully closing epic and reloading usually fixes that for me

[fluid prairie]

Thank you! I'll try that but I had same issue last night and in the meantime I closed my laptop. I'll try to logoff from epicgames and maybe IMX as well

[solar brook]

I can not collect. Every builing has the countdown on 0
Any Idea?

mobile and desktop - f2p

[fluid prairie]

For me it worked after I cleared browser cached images and files

[lyric lodge]

anyone else having an issue getting into abysmal basin land ?

[lyric lodge]

how much fuel are you getting each day and how much dollars are you making ?

[unborn osprey]

Why are missions inside Zero still bugged? I finished all of them yesterday and I didn't get the new ones for today...

[frozen finch]

Jeez illuvium zero has gradually become more and more laggy. Loadingtime everytime goals pop-ups its like 5-10sec freeze on my mobile. Anyone else have the same experience?

So fkn frustrating.

[lyric lodge]

well i cannot access abysmal basin plt, can you ? Also now when i claim on my crstals shores, it just says netwokr error and just keeps reloading, its realllyyy buggyyy

[frozen finch]

I can access my abysal basin plot and everything seems to work fine. Apart from the god damn lag/freeze

[manic gyro]

I am having the same issue and I have had a support ticket in for about 2 weeks and I have just got a reply this morning asking if I have the latest update and if the problem is still happening and I responded with it is still happening and I have the latest update, so waiting for a new response so if I get and answer I will post it up,

[frozen finch]

Doesnt it update automaticly tho?

[manic gyro]

Very odd as it is only happening on my mobile and my other 2 plots work fine on the pc and the mobile

[radiant sky]

Depends on epic Games settings

[frozen finch]

Aiit👍

[lyric lodge]

2 weeks of not being able to access your plot? WHAT ! are you serious ?

[lyric lodge]

happening on my pc

[fluid prairie]

Try clear browser Cache

It worked for me

[lyric lodge]

which cache, its an app

[fluid prairie]

It connects with IMX passport right?

I use Chrome as default browser. After I have cleared Chrome Cahce, my plot loaded in app

[manic gyro]

Yep I have watched that plot go from my best to the worst plot, it has brought a tear to my eyes

[lyric lodge]

ah thanks

[fluid prairie]

No problem! Hope it will work for you too

[lyric lodge]

so all of these ? ****

[lyric lodge]

dude thats unacceptable they not resolved this yet

[fluid prairie]

Yes

[swift creek]

Hello guys need help. I been scanning for illuvium since one week. I must have scan 6 times now. But not finding any illuvium. I am running scanner at 93% efficiency. Does anyone have tip on how to improve chances ??

[gusty yoke]

gm

[lyric lodge]

nope did not work

[lyric lodge]

even used a different browser and still not working, i hope the team are going to compensate people who cannot access thier lands

[fluid prairie]

Sorry to hear that 😦

[fierce jetty]

I actually have the same, cant acces my plot for 2 weeks already. Hope it gets fixed soon 😭

[normal totem]

Hi all. What’s affects the efficiency of the singularity scanner? Mines on 88%

And how can I raise it. Power doesn’t seam to help.

[open stratus]

Nearby building except for power stations

You can't have anything close to the scanner

[tranquil sparrow]

Behold my max T1 slum
only manage to have 19 fuel converters

[normal totem]

I can’t sent pictures for some reason but it’s kinda isolated.

[normal totem]

With your T1 fuel conversions. At 150% rate is the conversion 6/6 fuel or does it increase like material 17k/21k?

[tranquil sparrow]

max increase is around at 120%
it got 150% without me knowing, tried to get more converters but it is hard, this is my best atm

[tranquil sparrow]

oops yes for conversion, is same fuel

[normal totem]

Pretty pointless getting to 150% then

[tranquil sparrow]

yeaa, but good to get one atleast for conversion

[normal totem]

I have 15 fuel conversions on my T1 from 110%-150% just worried I was going something wrong by only getting same conversion rate.

[tranquil sparrow]

you need to raise your ranger level to 5 here

[median dust]

hi does anyone know how to transfer the land from IMX Passport back to the market place? im trying to sell them i just dont know how to do the transfer back to illuvium to sell it

[simple dove]

Guys, question, do I need to leave my wallet connected to immutable or illuvium to play the assets in zero? Or can I now disconnect?

[timid sorrel]

Anyone here found anything with a L5 Scanner? Seems I just waste fuel every day…never found anything.

[thorny crater]

I have my cold wallet connected to Illuvium’s as a secondary wallet. This wallet holds my land and does not need to be plugged in to play.

[thorny crater]

There are Bps from lvl 5 bito data already

[flint compass]

I have my land on a secondary wallet and have found blueprints with it since. It is linked with my passport, but I guess in order to sell the blueprint I need to transfer it? I don't see it when I log into my passport.

I see. Thank you.

[pseudo pulsar]

are T1 plots like The Tortoise and the Hare at the end of this will be king

[teal mural]

After the update are y’all having problems uploading y’all land

[sharp jolt]

Highly doubt it man.

I’d love to be wrong, but so far they aren’t doing much to gain back trust

[tranquil sparrow]

My brain hard to process i'll consider the suggestions

so u mean i can put 2 solon converter near the extractor yea?

i thought mine already supreme calculation missed a lot

[small sundial]

A moment of silence for this T2 sold for only $0.15. ...

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[tranquil sparrow]

WISH I BOUGHT THAT

[sharp jolt]

Who’s the anime character in your pfp

[tranquil sparrow]

Strelitzia Kingdom Hearts 4
and i'm a dude

[thorny crater]

That t2 is for fuel for me only so i can play more OW the way i want. but here is a link to my T3, also not selling fuel but I am bp focused. On this T3 i did put the numbers if i sold fuel vs going after BPs though
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[thorny crater]

I think this is clever.....what it seems like is someone put their land for sale. made another wallet then put an offer for 401.38......or they just are not paying attention which is a no bueno and unlikely.

[sudden zinc]

@modern basalt GM! I got 1,5 ILV Loaylty Rewards. Wanted to claim them today. They are disappeared! Is there a known issue? I sent directly a ticket, but may you know about something!? Thanks!

[sudden zinc]

oh dear, he mixed up ETH and USDC...🫣 Lucky buyer!!!

[thorny crater]

zammmmmmn thats why i don't do all the different coin crap. crypto is too confusing

[sudden zinc]

why so many Power Stations? Does this really improve that much the output??

[thorny crater]

yes

Ok so this is basically it for my t3. Once those last 3 buildings, 2 labs and the scanner update. Nothing left else to do except collect.

I can build 11/12 more buildings so Will trying to fit more power stations in just for path bonus.

I lie. I might add another data bank. 2 max lvl gives you 105 in staorage. I’m at 50/105

[thorny crater]

I only put low ball offer on those who say the game is going to fail/etc

stop that talk almost instantly lol

[sudden zinc]

many Thanks!!!! Good hint!!!

[fierce pollen]

anyone having success selling fuel on the illuvidex? i've listed a load of fuel about a week ago at the lowest price possible and none of it is sold 😐

[open stratus]

I got some work to do fitting some in on mine. I'm at 18% on both t3s. One is almost finished, the other I still need some converter and resource work

Iirc 17 converters each, and 1 scanner each

[twilit walrus]

Hello new here does this game have a X or everything tied to the 1 called Illuvium

[fierce pollen]

yeah, but it wont let me edit the amount to lower it. i'm at the lowest apparently

[open stratus]

Lol difficult, it's impossible some places. It's inevitable that you end up with dead space here and there..you just fit it the best you cam

Plus I mean I can't be bothered trying to squeeze and redo everything for what like 4 fuel per day ?

Couple fuels next to each other and resources in a line you're toast

They aren't perfect by any means, I'm sure I could do it better. But not worth the effort rn

Between the 2 I'm 4 of each extractor, so fairly balanced anyways. Went harder with the crypton converters though

I barely have time to play right now, so just sitting on it all 🤣. Think I'm getting close to 5k of each sitting on my lands

Prob more crypton than that

[thin crystal]

What's is your daily production of fuel?

[unique magnet]

Wow congrats! How have you made so many trades? lol

Oh I thought you were saying you bought the Tier 2 for $0.15.

[quaint prism]

Whoever did that definitely thought they were selling for ETH, not USDC. Ah, crypto.

[untold igloo]

Somebody Knows allready how much ILV wee will get for Points?

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/one-milliondollars-dr-evil-mike-myers-gif-4123675

[untold igloo]

🤭

[untold igloo]

Oh i miss Austin Powers 😂

[thorny crater]

I Love GOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLD

[sudden zinc]

Thanks! I still did not get the pointabout benefits of so much Power Stations!....

[mortal bough]

Is this a real question?

Ready to spend it, LG!

[icy thicket]

Didn't see anyone answer you

Illuvium Zero is connected to the Illuvium ecosystem

One X account for all game modes (arena, overworld, zero, beyond)

[formal wadi]

Do you guys manage to sell your fuels ? Can't figure out what price i should list to have a chance to sell ...

[mortal bough]

At some point I will want to sell some fuel, so hopefully someone provides a good answer I can save in my notes.

[formal wadi]

Thank you very much for this, i'll have a closer look and try to sell at best price !

[mortal bough]

This is great hamster, thanks for putting the time into that.

[mortal bough]

I brought this up before and could not get an explanation.

I would like to know the token addresses for crypton, solon, and hyperion. Since the whole ecosystem is based around fuel, we should all be able to see how it transacts. Correct me if I am wrong.

[potent dock]

Copy your Passport wallet address, go to Immutascan, check the Balances tab.

[radiant sky]

it's likely IMX tokens you got form buying or airdropped or whatever.

at least my 6$ are imx tokens, idk when or where i got them.

maybe check it on passport.immutable

[potent dock]

Fuel isn't tokenized, it doesn't have a token address because it's not a token.

[mortal bough]

Whats the logic behind that?

[potent dock]

Primarily security, but it's likely that txn throughput on IMX was a consideration, among other things.

[mortal bough]

This is bothersome. Everything else is tokenized. But the main thing the whole ecosystem runs off is not. Makes it feel like the fuel generated on my land is ferry dust. If its an asset that can be manipulated, it needs to be trackable by people generating the asset.

[potent dock]

You can make a post in #1020759212172775464 about it. I'm just explaining how it works and why there's no token addresses for Fuel.

[mortal bough]

Yeah, I am just bringing it up to gather the community opinion on it with me. We cant see how much fuel is generated, burned, sold, or otherwise used for auditing purposes.

[potent dock]

It's likely that there could be tracking without needing it to be tokenized. Having Fuel be account bound does prevent a lot of the extremely bad scenarios that could arise from an exploit.

But the team would need to speak to that, I'm just speculating.

[mortal bough]

I think this would be a great topic for the team to speak to at the next AMA.

[mortal bough]

https://discordapp.com/channels/760344898200666112/1288646794292756590

[jaunty forge]

is it even possible to have an exchange in IMX

may be they can create packs of fuel to be traded like NFTs

[subtle frost]

how come I am stuck in loading Plot screen

[serene iris]

This is a imx airdrop, you will need to login to imx directly to see it

[vivid cipher]

Do you have more than one plot?

Do they all do this?

[subtle frost]

nevermind it works now

not sure why.. I closed nad reloaded a few times

and it worked

[hexed abyss]

When Zero Market place building back again? I don't want to sell fuel on illuvidex for less than 1/3 of the buy price. Then buy at full price for another plot 😂. Actually who decided this crazy fuel market system that favors Overworld buyers/players...

[vivid cipher]

How do you buy fuel for another plot? Perhaps you are thinking that it’s possible to import fuel into the zero game. You can’t do that.

[undone phoenix]

Has anyone found a workaround of the issue where they can’t load their plot? (So you cannot play it)

[hexed abyss]

Oh, ok so buying at full price is also just for Overworld 😅.
I understand that if low player count on OW then fuel is hard to sell. But why land-owners have to bid against each other & sell lower? While OW players get a bonus based on how cheap land-owners sell?

[vivid cipher]

The bonus system is overly confusing. The price people are paying is the price land owners sell for.

[wanton crater]

I've never seen a blockchain game that doesn't make so much money, considering the price of LAND.
You can make money on titles made by amateurs. It'll take 100 years to recoup it.
The management should take responsibility and buy back LAND.

https://tenor.com/view/im-tired-the-real-world-goodbye-roomies-exhausted-fed-up-gif-23569472

[versed warren]

I feel fuel should only be generated from land and thet the dao should hold there own land and have someone playing it for them

This infinite supply will always make fuel worth less and less as time goes on

[cosmic spade]

great dev-plog, thanks. but again nothing to read about mega cities? @bitter glade

could you tell us something about it and how long is it postponed?
i bought many and expensive land plots because of the mega city and now i have to play all single plots… it‘s very time intensive and frustrating.

[lyric lodge]

so ho much dollars are you making a day on T1 ?

This is utterly ridiculous, yesterday zero started not letting me into abysmal basin, it just goes back to plots page, now another plot also wont allow me in, same issue. This is unacceptable - how long does it take for the team to resolve this, this type of stuff should not be happening this late in the game, I am not the only one affected by it, @whole spear are you aware of people having these issues. I know at least of one other, who has waited 2 weeks and still not resolved. I cleared the cach, also connected to a different broswer, logged out, restarted pc, same issued on andriod

If this is afecting a number of people, a fix should be implemented as critical

[lyric lodge]

your lucky you can even still get into the game mate, some of us cannot even get into out lands

[bitter glade]

Next blog, which is coming pretty soon.

It’s in progress. The team know the urgency.

[cosmic spade]

thanks for your fast reply! i appreciate it

[lyric lodge]

Should we not just focus on getting zero working for everyone before adding anything ?, there are some of us who cannot even get into our lands.

[lyric lodge]

Is anyone else having issues getting into their plots ? I know of at least one other

[lost walrus]

bit more normal today

[verbal igloo]

We are well aware of this and have some fixes in place for the upcoming patch

[hoary saffron]

Yes I have not been able into get into one of my plots for 2 weeks (I raised a ticket) and the other worked for awhile but now also stuck on loading screen.

[grand silo]

juicy juicy lads

[bold vapor]

stuck on loading screen for 2 months now

[lost walrus]

I really fucking hate crypto world sometimes. Send 20 dollar to my passport but it does not arrive. Keep waiting i guess?

[noble crag]

Did you sent it from Ethereum to Immutable via Immutable website? Than yes, you need to wait. I recommend to use layerswap for this purpose as it much faster and usually cheaper

[lyric lodge]

OK when is that ..are we going ti be given units for not being able to make progress?

[lyric lodge]

Nice are you fi ding these on t1 ?

[grand silo]

t3

[lyric lodge]

Remember waller passport is different....check it's the right wallet on token trove

[grand silo]

costs alot of scans

[lyric lodge]

So t1 now basically worthless

Fir scanning

They were supposed to be blueprint factories

[grand silo]

yeah im not a pro on the t1s that would be a mish

[verbal igloo]

It will be aligned with other fixes and implementations as well, dont have a deadline currently.
Personally, I don't know anything about the credits ~~giveaway ~~ compensation right now.

[lyric lodge]

So you have no idea when the broken product will be fixed or how compensation will be provided....is that the current state ?

[lyric lodge]

It's not credit giveaway it's compensation for a product we paid for that I broken

Compensation for not bring able to play our land or make progress

[grand silo]

the guys that havent been able to load their plots should get something surely, thats just painful waiting so long

[lyric lodge]

Some people have said they cannot access thier land for 2 months! Why has this not be fixed already

It's completely unacceptable tha has gone on for 2 months ....when did the team find out about this ?

[verbal igloo]

Agree, but is not up to me to take that decision. In terms of the fix, just like I said, we are aware of it and working towards fixing it as we speak

[lyric lodge]

How long has it been going on ?

And then on the plots that do work it keeps loading connections so when I remove a tree and want t build something it keeps losing connections d placing another tree....the app is unsable

As soon as I clear a tree and move a building it losses connections

Those are on the fence lands that I can actually acess

[verbal igloo]

We do know, and I do agree with the fact that we still have some bugs. We constantly working on improving the current state of the game, as well as working towards new implementations, but sometimes this takes more time then anticipated.
Also, the bug with reloading the plot is top prio for us right now.

[lyric lodge]

Great...thanks ....when did the team first become aware of this issue? Are you guys also aware of the other issue....plus losing connections when you try move a building?

Then a tree pops up on the place when it's reloaded so you can do nothing as it's an endless loo

Loop

[verbal igloo]

The initial reports of the plot loading issue was related to the paths (which was fixed in one of the previous patch we had). We initially assumed that all those issues were linked to this sole reason, but after the patch was released, we realized that for some users, there were other edge cases (or a combination of paths + others)

Thats the reason on why this issue is still out there

[verbal igloo]

Personally, I was not aware of this particular edge case, have you reported it?

[lyric lodge]

OK but this only started for me yesterday

And today another plot was also affected

[verbal igloo]

Ok, it will help us if you can please report it, so we can dig into it

[lyric lodge]

I have thanks

[mortal bough]

I could see making the fuel cheap for big marketing event.... maybe Illuvuim shoud pay land holders like employees if they want to control the supply. I will take ILV payments while the fuel price is low.

My thing is, you cant take something away without giving something back. NERF my fuel supply, pay me reparations in ILV until the fuel prices goes where they want it. You have to take on all of the responsibility of manipulating the supply peoples assests generate.

[pearl marten]

Oh yeah! Juicy indeed 😄

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/rachel-happy-jealous-friends-jennifer-aniston-gif-8350582

[grand silo]

indeed, how many in total can we get?

[pearl marten]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-infinity-gauntlet-infinity-stones-power-gif-2147317492145410101

[radiant sky]

one for each suit line T1-T5 and one for each drone.

[grand silo]

how many lines are there?

5

[radiant sky]

15

[pearl marten]

3 per Tier

[grand silo]

i see

[thorny crater]

Let me get them Hilda bps please lol

Dems the ones I want

[icy thicket]

Anyone got any drone BPs? I have not seen any 😦

[radiant sky]

mozart and bach can be found atm

others are bugged i heared

[mortal mural]

I need a t5 stage 3 I my life

[icy thicket]

They need to find their way over to my plots 😆

[twilit path]

Passive max in my T2 for l4 converter is 136%

[radiant sky]

can't be lucky everywhere ricky 😛

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-17677371

[silver plover]

Gardening day today, so many plants need taken care of in both my plots 😂

[radiant sky]

leave some for the rest of us

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-begging-pretty-please-beg-on-your-knees-pray-for-mercy-gif-7076871773858896878

[icy thicket]

Lol apparently I have "mozart" skins 😆

Been focusing on getting all the biodata so i can get rid of my scanners

[radiant sky]

omg... 62 data...

i'm about to cry

do you have 100% scanners?

[icy thicket]

Tier 1 is done
Tier 2 (2 scanners) haven't gotten anything from those 2 scanners...
Tier 3 (2 scanners) been averaging 1 biodata a day this week

[icy thicket]

Been at this percentage % for the past couple weeks

[radiant sky]

hmm... guess i'm just unlucky

[icy thicket]

I am getting unlucky with Tier 2s

We will see how lucky I am when I get to stage 4 scanner 😉
Just trying to finish Tier 3s first

[radiant sky]

guess the tier

[inland shore]

Haven't found blueprints in 2 weeks with 100% efficiency running 11 scanners per day lol

[silk crypt]

Helllo

[lyric lodge]

What tier

It looks so ugly. .so sad the team made the game to be played like this ....so basically ignore paths....what tier is this ?

[grand silo]

what tier is that

[twilit path]

Is there a max building limit for converters?

tks

[thorny crater]

That’s all I got except 1. And got Bach and Mozart for atlas trying to get his stags 2/3 for the last month

[sweet egret]

only 4 days left for my Nexus Stage 9 on my T1 ploat 🙂

[ionic sierra]

When will we be able to sell fuel and get eth? Can anyone tell us at what point in Nexus we will be able to know that the plot is at its maximum profitability?

[signal canyon]

we can sell fule, nexus u upgrade to unlock higer upgrades for extractors and convertors

[plucky venture]

Impressive. My T1's have been kneecapped bad by the nerf (and their bad resource distributions). I have un-bottle-necked 2 of them, and one is now at S8. But even from there, S9 feels miles away.

[plucky venture]

Max profit is still a moving target, most likely.

Had an idea, yesterday. I leave ILZ running on a tablet most of the time. It occurred to me that it could put up some eye candy during those hours I don't need to interact with it. I don't think this is a high-priority item, but would be something I'd like to see ILZ do, eventually.

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1288750776931319840

If it appeals to you, please toss it a vote. 🙂

[keen maple]

Hello, may i ask, has the discovery of a fact through a Materials Lab been reduced? I've done like 5 complete scans on 5 Material Labs without any result?

[rotund forum]

I am starting to get pretty jealous here! I have 5 L5 scanners and 5 L5 biolabs, on 5 plots. And you have more on this plot than me combined 😂. True… I got A LOT of doubles.

Biolabs 150% all, scanners 90-100% (some are just impossible to get higher than 90… too much unmovable shit close by). But every 24h it’s just clicking for dudds. I get some facts, or something I already have… or still more monkeys 😅

[thorny crater]

I decided to keep only 4 scanners lvls 1-4
And 5 lands lvls 1-5

This way when I research a tier 1 I’m not paying a lab 5 cost for it

But I can only do one of each tier…or a min 1 tier 5 at a time

[stoic rapids]

someone remove this scam

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[sharp jolt]

Agreed. These scammers are so brazen it’s infuriating

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[spring jetty]

Any news on mega city. Aaron didn't mention it in the dev blog

[sweet egret]

Thx for advice - think my passive fuel are all at lvl 4. they will follow 👌🏼

[mortal mural]

i just read the dev blog. they doing the 3d versions of plots. is this necessary for the direction we aiming at? i honestly asking. in fact i dont even know where we going with plots. havent read the feedback ideas in a while

[radiant sky]

there's some fun stuff you could do if land were in 3d. The sooner you do the better.
But probably not a low workload, so some fun features might have to wait a bit longer.

[mortal mural]

I want to share update in my t3. Manage to add 4 more converters, total 18. 3 scanners and 4 research labs

I think I can squeeze in one more converter or two at max

I think I got 3 converters that are not at max out put efficiency

[mortal mural]

i would love some fun like factorio.

that would be kick ass. either that. or some economic strategy planning

[radiant sky]

honestly never played that, but watched a youtube vid... looked pretty fun

[keen maple]

How did you manage to get so many blueprints already lol. I haven't received a single fact in 5 days, is that just unlucky?

[mortal bough]

#📣〕announcements message

@whole spear How did this go today? Why only a 8 minute reminder posted?

Is there an event calendar we can have access too?

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1288646794292756590

If you agree with this idea, show some support and feedback in the thread

[thorny crater]

That’s a t3 that has been non stop research for about 2 months now. And I mean nonstop

I fail way more times then I succeed. Sometime days. But one day I got all five lab to give me a fact/bp at once.

Most Bo’s I got at once was 3

Never happened again lol

[sacred locust]

Is there any good websites that explain scanners and research labs. Like what's the point of a t3 scanner if it just costs more to scan. Ect

[drifting kestrel]

Hi guys, I've got several Blueprints and I wanted to know if they can be minted yet. Can anyone help me?

[random warren]

im having a weird issue, I cant move things, the plants keep growing on the few remaining spots, if i clear them I get network error and have to reload plot, when i do a new plant is back!

[icy thicket]

Went well 🙂 This was a Community Council townhall (more to follow)
Shared what we have been working on for the past 3 weeks and our goals for this epoch to advance the DAO and add value. Our goal is to improve communication and ensure the Community has a voice that is heard!
Appreciate the feedback!

[pseudo pulsar]

How long is the window for blue prints trying build up my T1 befor spendind fuel on searching

[thorny crater]

BP hunting is not cheap in fuel costs

[icy thicket]

I kept the scanners at Level 1 - which saved me money to complete my Tier 1s
Then upgreaded to Level 2 - saving money to complete my tier 2s

I have 13 more Tier 2s and now using level 3 scanners

(Saving Money = Spending less fuel)

[thorny crater]

seem likes your in a plant queue. happened to me a few times. I remove plants a s soon as i can now, unless i need to use the resources for some upgrade
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[random warren]

everytime I do it resets with a new one!

[thorny crater]

it took me two days once....but i was not watching it every 5 mins lol

[icy thicket]

I will be selling my scanners after i have all the biodata 😉
But you can always sell one scanner L5 and build a level 1... but thats QUITE a ways away 😉
How crazy would it be if they release the new Illuvial via Zero where we research them first 😉 🧠 And when all facts are found they release in the overworld

[serene iris]

That's a very cool idea

[serene iris]

Erm this one

[mortal mural]

Keep removing them it will eventually stop

[mortal mural]

I’m just gonna put them in a corner it feels kinda wasteful selling them

[icy thicket]

True...

[mortal mural]

Cool idea I like that

Like make f2p join in the fact search

Have some sort of prize for the people finding them maybe? Like a limited one or some sort

[mortal mural]

As im nearing max fuel production. The fuel roi gets higher. I started to slow down on fuel upgrades and invest In scanners and research labs first. And start scanning. Even though I wan to collect all bio data I want the ones I find cool and research those first. So I level up some scanners anyway while still completing my lower tiers. To have a chance to find some cool t5s

My reasoning is I want to have the chance to have the cool biodatas ealier so I can start researching them.

But I agree with your method being much cheaper overall

It’s just I start seeing people with t5 stage 3 and some fomo starts to kick in

[paper sleet]

Every time I hit save or confirm I am getting a network error and reload plot

Any fixes?

Plant que got it

[icy thicket]

I need to boost my production
And work on my 6 Tier 1s... they are VERY Behind 😭

[plucky venture]

FWIW ... I think it is the reverse of this. Because they are 2D, the graphics are super-quality which takes up a lot of space that you don't need if you never zoom in. The 3D graphic, at least from what I gather in the Dev Blog, would actually be more streamlined. (Especially for Unity.) At least if they didn't go overboard on the "quality" of the graphics, again.

Is it necessary? No. I don't think so. This is very lightweight 3D work, not Overworld stuff. More RTS-style. Maybe it would even let you twist buildings by 90 degree increments.

[random warren]

Ok will do, thanks 👍

[mortal mural]

I would like some light twist of perspective though. The other day I finally found my bio data bank hiding behind a hydrogen pump

[sharp jolt]

Yea, not being able to rotate the camera is insane for any game in 2024. Or 2004.

[thorny crater]

Finally got my 1st t1 to lvl 9

[tribal zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

[fallen kiln]

Wow

How many time take make it 🥵?

[plucky venture]

That's the key. It's not the same level of detail.

If you look at the screenshots we're posting, here, power stations are like 20 pixels wide. And yet that asset is probably a huge .png somewhere that no one zooms in on. Yes, a 3D model is more complex, undisputed. But if you optimize for 3D textures vs. non-optimized "high quality" 2D, you definitely have a situation where the 3D version will run rings around the 2D. And also not have sprite glitches.

[rose maple]

Any chance to reduce plant clearing time to 60 seconds? Just a general game improvement suggestion.

[open stratus]

There's a way to do them instantly

[robust widget]

Hey @rose maple Can you please create an in-game bug report? If you are not able to login into the plot, you can make the report from a different one, such as a F2P plot. Thank you in advance! 🙌

[vocal marlin]

Hi newbie here... Is it possible to earn without having the NFT land? Thanks

[hoary gazelle]

not in zero

[radiant sky]

Zero f2p is mainly for getting to know how Zero works before you have to pay for a Land nft. In future there might be more Fun, social activities and competitive pvp/pve features implemented.

For now:

• you can't sell any assets generated on your f2p plot yet
• you can't use any assets in other Games than Zero itself yet

However, you can:

• play for Fun
• play for Airdrop missions
• play for possible future features.

Also the tokens you generate with Level ups are Account bound. If you one day decide to buy a Land you can use those tokens to Speed that Land up or buy builders there.

[last tiger]

hi guys im been trying to sell fuel without any success.. even at lower price lower then the suppose bottom and nothing i would like to heard from you guys if u still selling or holding or sending the fuel to your account whats the best plan atm

cuz i was think of doing drones or weapons but they are hard to sell too

[hoary gazelle]

maybe store in OW until u find time to do runs for collecting illuvials ? think illuvials will gain u most roi rn or store them for later

[thorny crater]

Started July 25th. BUT I did not play it a lot at first. Was focused on my t3 and t2

[last tiger]

yeah atm its been the most profits for sure

[hoary gazelle]

rn to sell stuff might not be the best option. most players of overworld and arena own also land. so everybody is dropping prices by selling their stuff. when more games are added prices of illuvials/ fuels will rise. so you can now sell e.G. your illuvial for 40 cents or you holding it back for a later 20 bucks

[last tiger]

very true brother

[hoary gazelle]

i also though of just using one t1 land and just build fuelstorage and max it out and buy like 10 mio fuels tosell it at higher price

[radiant sky]

please keep offers in the dex channels like #🛒〕illuvials-dex

[last tiger]

sorry brother my bad

[radiant sky]

all good
sell it for 20 bucks to me and you don't get muted. 😛

[hoary gazelle]

i somebody the same opinion that you overjump nexus 6 ? i mean by not upgrading quantum to 3 and worker to 6 ? in my opinion you should just overjump this step for nexus 7 and than for max extractors and than quantum and engistation right ?

I did this in 2 of my lands as an test and its huge diff

[thorny crater]

Get nuxes to lvl 9 = step 1 imo

[last tiger]

LOOOOOOL

[thorny crater]

Whatever it take to upgrade to do this, do it

[last tiger]

no way

[last tiger]

its the 2nd best malura on the market and the best in holo

[hoary gazelle]

but it is ways faster for getting +50 buildings first
i just mean when the your solon dredge is capped on lvl 2 (bc of quantum2) its ways better to overjump nexus 6 and engi station to get +50 building to get the fuelproduction you need on the plot to get ressources faster for engi and quantum. So the way would be nexus 5 / engistation 5 / quantum 2 -> nexus 6 -> nexus 7 / quantum 3 / engi 6 /engi 7

just relevant for people with t1 land

[thorny crater]

So what I mean is I kept my fuel upgraded to max lvls when possible. But my focus/main goal for any upgrade is. By doing x upgrade it will help me get the nexus to the lvl x faster

[hoary gazelle]

sure but you fuels are capped on quantum and quantum is capped on engistation and engistation on nexus. as i said when u have t3 land you have enough fuels to get this fast. with one fuelsite it takes quite a time so its a difference of 3 -5 days at the end of which way you choose in this buildingqueque

[harsh dew]

I'm stuck on pc here:

[radiant sky]

sounds like...

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-money-raining-money-meme-pepe-money-gif-20679525

[radiant sky]

open a ticket... but not much you can do.
it's a known bug.

[last tiger]

i hope so

[harsh dew]

It's funny It's been the 1st time I did not play for 24h and when I come back and attempt to play I have the bug.

The free land is loading. But not the real one.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/unfortunate-game-of-thrones-khaleesi-gif-14019103

[harsh dew]

Where can I open that ticket when I will have to time to do it ?

[radiant sky]

if f2p plot still works, best is to do it ingame on your f2p plot.
might wana add plot number, and other reasons of possible special circumstances which could have lead to a bug.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-good-luck-gif-20034388

[dull pier]

Are you able to upgrade your extractors? I’m not sure if because mine are on like auto renew it’s preventing me from upgrading them or if u just can’t upgrade them at all?

[radiant sky]

you can toggle that off in the activities tab.

or even cancel the activity

[dull pier]

Thanks, that worked

[stray lark]

How do I rent a land? Is this possible?

[pearl marten]

Dynamic duo 😁

[twilit path]

So different land regions does nothing regarding biodata? All regions can find all biodata elements?

[lapis gulch]

Why am I getting duplicate stage 1 blueprints instead of finally geting stage 2s?

[pearl marten]

It does... but i already had about 90 biodata found so as we cannot get duplicates eventually you re going to find the ones with low chances like 7% fire on Halcyon or something like that

[pearl marten]

That's a good question.. i know stages don't matter because once you have a specific BP you can craft all 3 stages of that suit line...
But idk if we're supposed to get duplicate BPs

[lapis gulch]

Wait. So are there even stage 2 and 3 blueprints? And what would they do?

I guess there is no need to have stages on the image itself if it makes no sense.

[pearl marten]

No there aren't stage 2 and 3 in the zero research. We can find 15 total suit BPs (3 for each tier 1-5) for a single biodata
Once you have a BP, let's say a Tier 3 suit, you can craft a skin for each stage of that Tier 3 suit

[lapis gulch]

It's really odd then. There is a stage for the blueprint. It made me think there might be different stages to those. Also old drone skins showed 3 stages as well.

[knotty sable]

So on my level 1 scanner, how many illuvials do I need to find before upgrading to level 2? So on and so forth?

[radiant sky]

probably a leftover from the old design.

[thin crystal]

Hi, guys! Is there a way to see how many buildings and on what level they are of a land for sale?

[sand radish]

weeks i'm having T5 scan and still not a single T5 illu

[knotty sable]

How much does a tier 5 scan cost?

[stoic rapids]

fuel still in free fall

wonder when devs will intervene

[mortal mural]

18 of each fuel

[mortal mural]

i think 36 for t1
30 for t2
24 for t3
21 for t4
18 for t5

you dont need to actually wait and complete the sets but it is overall cheaper.

[mortal mural]

where can i review this information. im not very clear either on what blueprints we get from biodatas.

omg its free falling. but i will eventually witll start selling fuel again. since im gonna top fuel storage in a few days.

[mortal mural]

is there a way to know what each blue print does?

i just researching the ones i think are cool in design

for now im focusing on upgrading things. even things i think i wont ever need like some element extractors to max. the only things i wont max all of are the filler powerstations.

max all element extractors.

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/pawchain-pawswap-paw-crypto-cryptocurrency-gif-13628392865028507061

[pearl marten]

Each BP gives you the possibility to craft that specific Illuvial skin...
In terms of designs your guess is as good as mine

[frosty trellis]

Does anyone know what the benefit up upgrading scanners is?

Haven’t seen any difficulty/stage benefit

[mortal mural]

i meant like, i thought diferent blue prints crafted different equipment with perks and such. the ones on seeforus say that they kinda useful for mining or something like that. so i assumed it has like mining+1 or something like that

[pearl marten]

Never heard of this ... the skins are purely cosmetic with no added bonuses

[mortal mural]

ohhhhhhhh, i didnt know that

nice too know.if they are purely cosmetic i will just keep researching the cool biodata first.

[open stratus]

I just added more storage for fuel until we reach a reasonable amount

[noble crag]

Does upgrading Lab gives any benefit except research of higher biodata tier?

Upgrade also increase cost of research? So it make sense to have several labs for each level to save fuel for particular tier?

[lethal valley]

wow hello finally u got what u deserve

ive been away 😄 idk anything about illuvium anymore 😄

[radiant sky]

ser, you missed the launch?

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-james-franco-looking-gif-15728181

[radiant sky]

no, it's the only benefit.

[radiant sky]

upgrading your scanner grants you access to higher tier biodata.

[frosty trellis]

Thanks

That’s what I suspected, just haven’t seen comparable results

[lethal valley]

yeap...
im really sorry but i had to solve some personal problems. aka not dying on the streets 😄

[radiant sky]

no need to be sorry mate 🙂
good to see you back again 🙂

[rotund forum]

18 fuel of each. So most expensive scenario is you have 5 scanners and 5 biolabs (can’t have more anymore like previous betas). So max you can spend 180/180/180 fuel per day.

So that is 540 fuel a day. If you have a T4 you are spending half of your fuel on blueprint research. A T1 can generate about 100 fuel pushing the limits so this maxed out scenario is not feasible.

The scanners cost a lot but I think there is a time you can reduce them or shut them off. You can’t find a duplicate so basically you find something it’s one less of the collection. There will come a time you scanned all and you can save the fuel. The next batch will be not 200 illuvials, maybe 30-40 new ones so it won’t take forever.

And the biolabs have the advantage that you can “aim” at what you want. So you can only research a certain T4 or T5 and try to collect blueprints for that specific illuvial.

I actually always thought go full fuel and ignore blueprints but seeying that now selling fuel is complicated why not have some fun scanning? It is quite addictive although they should make it a LOT more so with a more exciting reveal moment.

[radiant sky]

Not sure adding fuel cost at all to the blueprint economy was the right decision.
Low tier were always meant to be a good spot to grow BP economy, while higher tier more likely focus on fuel due to the production boost.

With adding fuel costs it basically got swapped.
Low tier barely can afford it and since theres a low limitation of the buildings, high tier likely play the bp economy aswell since it's not really much space needed to almost max out the BP eco. (only thing is it's super expensive to do so there's that decision to be made out of high tier pov)

Besides that, adding fuel costs could make blueprints pretty expensive, which makes skins crafted from them pretty expensive.
Adding other costs like illuvials, gems, dyes etc. they could end up so expensive that they can't compete anymore with skins out of beyond.

[thorny crater]

True. I regret putting scanner on my t2, t3 is fine and amazing actually, but t2 and t1s I’d go straight fuel

[thorny crater]

is ther a reason this cost more than the other two fuels?

[spice vector]

Just acknowledging that we're on it. I think I've found an issue that causes it. Can't do something about it right this second, but i'll hassle the team for a fix 🙂

[thorny crater]

nailed it

i wanted to lvls of just fuel and convertors but its didnt blend well so i had to try them all at once lol

it would but cool to have this as a small aspect like this maybe? but even horizontal the power stations would be nuts wil lvls like this too....i don't have a solution lol

[topaz wing]

my zero missions didnt refresh. why i cant see my new missions?

didnt complete any

where are my missions

[mortal mural]

How many you got there?

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/lots-shaun-of-the-dead-simon-pegg-gif-18696834

[potent niche]

are there still land for sale?

[minor hazel]

at least your missions haven't been stuck on ones that are abjectly impossible for your plot to ever complete for months...and they don't even go away ever. Fail to complete and it just sits there blocking you from ever getting a new one. Super neato burrito 🙄

[rose thicket]

19:1 marketplace transactions paired with launching an exponential supply expansion seems to be an experiment gone bad 60 days in as I pointed out 15 days in. The foundational problem is not addressed and will continue to plaque us not matter how much production manipulation is done by the team.

[mellow quiver]

Hi, sorry been away for a while, what's the current situation with zero, is playing going to gain me anything I didn't get on the last round where I got the 15 Blueprints.

[rigid aspen]

Okay, this is beyond frustrating: I can’t build anything on my plot anymore because as soon as any space opens up and freaking plant is instantly put in its place. I have cleared dozens of plants, there is no end to it. When I try to build something in a freshly cleared space, forces me to reload plot.

[vestal raft]

I got this weird bug since yesterday, where 2 of my converters got stuck in a state similar to when they are working, but now I cant interact with them anymore...

(they have power, you would also be able to interact with with if they didn't... they don't appear in the activity menu, and I tried to load the game on both pc, iPhone and android).

I have reported it via the in game reporting, but has anyone encountered this bug before ?

[tall crypt]

I reported this more year ago. Never did do anything about this. The problem is that You have a lot of buildings. I aws create more 160 fuel converters any the program cannot handling all. Don't wait Illuvium do anything.

[cinder grove]

I had that as well and the team knows about this, so they are working on it. I did solve it. Removed the plant and just waited 15 minutes, then tried it and I could put a building / path on that area. Did not always work, I had it two times on different sections of the same T4 plot, but both times I solved it. Just don’t directly build after you removed the plant

[cinder grove]

Problem is that the buying price stays the same but the buyer gets bonus fuel and the sellers keep competing. This makes no sense. The buying price should be fixed without bonus so playing the game has a fixed price. Also when you get more fuel for what you pay, the entire market place for illuvials gets cheaper and cheaper as it cost less to catch them.

[radiant sky]

what do you mean with "exponential supply expansion" ?

[radiant sky]

yes, games are live on mainnet now

[radiant sky]

there's something like a buffer storage if your plants have no place to spawn.
you have to keep clearing them until that "storage" got emptied.
(Reload plot to let plants spawn again)

[radiant sky]

haven't seen that before.
Have you checked the activity tab? maybe they stuck in an activity and you could cancel it in there

[wanton canopy]

I agree with @rose thicket that the 19:1 marketplace is the fundamental flaw with the fuel economy. I accept that 95% of fuel revenue should go to the Stakers and 5% to the Farmers. That ratio is baked into all the existing agreements. What is crazy is the DAO producing 19 fuel each time a Farmer sells 1 fuel. That swamps the market and crashes the price. The DAO production should be limited to whatever the market wants to buy in excess of what the Farmers are producing. What happened to the fuel economist that was hired for Illuvium Zero? Can we get them in Discord so that we can chat directly with them, please?

[vestal raft]

haven't encountered this specific bug before either... yes, I did check the activity tab, and nothing there for those two buildings.
(didn't build any new converters for some time, I am in the process of upgrading them.. and only have 7 "resource converters" and 12 fuel converters on this plot in total, as this one is focused on BP) 🤔

will just have to wait and see.

[radiant sky]

ok. Sorry, can't help you out with that.
I doubt it's connected to the amount of buildings, but who knows.
Would be nice if you keep me updated what answer you get from support, so i can help others who encounter that bug in future 🙂

[radiant sky]

Is the supply bigger than the demand, yes.
Fuel price going down for that very reason.
However, i doubt the supply is the problem but rather the demand.
Also the fuel price is not the problem, you would earn the same amount if we would delete the ratio but take the DAO's cut in another way.

[thorny crater]

It’s a plant queue

Report it as a bug. I put in my report just turn off plant growing if a plot is loaded. Should be a easier fix

[vestal raft]

sure thing, will update here when I get it resolved. Thanks

[wanton canopy]

@radiant sky I don’t think that the supply of fuel farmed is greater than the demand. But is the demand 20x the supply from farmers? That is what happens when the DAO produces another 19 fuel for each fuel sold by farmers. It would help transparency if the team could at least clarify that whether the demand has always been 20x more than the farmers have supplied. I agree that low demand is a problem but I am patient about waiting for the games to develop and for the demand to increase. I am uncomfortable with the fuel economy being wrecked because the DAO is producing too much. If players demand is only 10x what the farmers produce then the current system is broken. As you suggested in that case it would be better to take the DAO’s cut for Stakers in another way. Of course the Farmers cut would be 5% of sales if we had an alternative system.

[wanton canopy]

Thanks @polar cosmos for that chart. Am I interpreting it correctly that on 24 September the Farmers sold $217.41 and the Players bought $3,318.47 worth of fuel? If that is the case then the 19:1 production ratio by the DAO would have needed $4,348 of fuel sales to players. It would also seem that on none of the other days was there sufficient demand from players to support the current system.

[polar cosmos]

exactly

[grand silo]

the only way I see land owners winning on the fuel issue is adding more new utility via other ways, theres no way the dao will vote anything that lessens that 95%

[wanton canopy]

@polar cosmos thanks so much for confirming with actual data what several people have been saying. How can we engage the team to abandon the current system of producing more fuel than the market wants to buy? I have made spreadsheets and written a paper about the topic. I even designed a board game to simulate the Illuvium Fuel Economy. I don’t know how to connect with right people in the team to discuss this.

@grand silo I have no objection to the 95% of REVENUE going to the DAO for Stakers. My objection is linking fuel PRODUCTION to this ratio. Production should match demand but no more than demand. When production exceeds demand it crashes the market. The team should de-couple the fuel production ratio from the Stakers | Farmers revenue ratio. Of course that would mean distributing revenue in a different way. But at least then we could have a stable market where demand matches supply.

I am just finishing a train journey so I will log off for a while. I look forward to continuing the discussion later.

[harsh dew]

Day 2

[radiant sky]

what exactly do you mean with "the fuel economy being wrecked" ?

[radiant sky]

<@&1107754780744487002> can help you wirte an IIP based on your data etc. and help you out through the whole process it needs to be approved or declined from councils.

[fair temple]

connect with me! Let's go over everything together. I'll send you a friend request 👀

[radiant sky]

don't expect it to be solved quickly... the bug is in since launch if i remember right.

[harsh dew]

...wow

I kind of expert to be fix quickly since it's involved Fuel --> convert into ETH so real money.

[radiant sky]

yea, totally agree

[harsh dew]

Fuels price is

[mortal mural]

Wow nice work

[harsh dew]

Here the link of the google sheet. The users can add data in the "Buyers" tab.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nQtyjnkcQBtWkkiJxQLx5saXODA6NF8i8sPmsxbkLBE/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0

[icy thicket]

I'd be Interested in seeing this information as well and can support @fair temple (I am sure he will keep me updated)

This discussion around the 5% (20x fuel by Labs) has been brought up many times since launch - looks like an ICCP to me.... but we may want to open this up in #1020759212172775464 first to garner more feedback on the subject, as there are many who share the same sentiment (cast the net wide 😉)

[icy thicket]

Thanks Spoon! Appreciate you assisting and bringing attention

[harsh dew]

The issue with the Fuel system right now might be related in the backend formula, it's seems like the variables about the # of players and the buying pressure it not optimal.

I think the formula don't include those variables into the equation of the Fuels price.

Just curious did not it was write in the white paper that the Fuels price will move in a range of 25% ? If it's still the same ? If yes what happened ?

It must have been change because we are at 584% now on Crypton, it's x23.36.

[teal void]

does anyone know maybe the contents of the fuel crates that were available as airdrops? i had some but didn't remember them
you can still buy some but i don't know if it's worth it

thanks FYI

[lavish light]

I have several lands. One of them, a Crystal Shores, has research costs (18/18/18) that are triple the research costs (6/6/6) of the rest of my lands. Why is that?

Yesterday, only half of the Illuvials were all the way to 18, now all of them are . . . .

Help!

[sudden horizon]

How i can transfer my fuel from my land plot to my IMX Passport for using in Illuvium Overworld game?

[radiant sky]

IIP-39

[radiant sky]

the research cost i related to the level of your material labs.

don't know what you mean with the other part of your post 😄

[radiant sky]

click on the fuel storages at the top right.

and then send fuel

[sudden horizon]

Thank you very much

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[open stratus]

Holy resources

I didn't go anywhere near that high

[grand silo]

dam that is a tonne of fuel, what tier?

[radiant sky]

it's a t4

[grand silo]

nice

[thorny crater]

zamn

i hope they go to a when land owners sell fuel the DAO jsut takes 95% fee/tax and we get the 5% instead of the 19:1

Or if someone can explain to me why the 19:1 is a good thing im all ears

[quiet heath]

When is going to be another fuel production nerf???

[rose thicket]

Is anyone else getting 'session time out' every 90 seconds now? ILZ is becoming almost unplayable at this point on my end.

[rose thicket]

Fuel prices just hover over the floor price, and it is almost impossible to discern how to price fuel to actually sell it. Perhaps there are almost zero buyers at this point, but impossible to make any informed decision by the landholder. We still have no viable fiat onramps despite public statements in interviews since returning from holiday. And I shared with the team a built out public Stripe solution for IMX...why in the hell is that not being pursued? We are in code red levels of demand.

this is becoming extremely frustrating! Illuvium-Mac-manual-MAIN-202409110933

[thorny crater]

this is how you figure out price. just see whats currently selling

[rose thicket]

thanks, the volume is so absurdly low. multiple ledger entries of 1 unit of fuel...guess others are testing it all the time.

[thorny crater]

naw theyre just selling to make money

but if i sale 1 fuel the DAO will make 19

[rose thicket]

do we know who was named as the new 'economist' hire yet?

[thorny crater]

I much rather if i sell 1 fuel the DAOjust takes the 95%fee/tax and i get my 5% instead of this. I cant see the argument for the 19:1 ratio

[rose thicket]

totally agreed. I tried to help Aaron and the team see the light on this matter two weeks after launch.

[thorny crater]

even if the player base ws 100k

[versed warren]

What tier is this?

[rose thicket]

We introduced mechanics that essentially are 'levering the supply' or creating derivatives for fuel as a quick fix to adjust for IMX's technical limitations that cannot run a true DEX or order book. So take in-game generated commodities and turn them into 20x levered non-fungible game vouchers...this will continue to create all kinds of disorder in market making as it would in the real world. Commodity exchanges figured this out about 5 decades ago.

This is what 19:1 does for you in just 30 days of staggered starting T3 production. This is called S-curve exponentiality at scale. NO FREAKIN WAY demand could ever keep up with this.

This would be obvious to the most junior financial analyst fresh out of college.

[slim dirge]

I have issues on both iOS and MacOS with one of my 3 plots. I'm guessing it's memory related since it's the plot that is farthest along, they are both not ancient devices.
On iOS the app just crashes when opening the plot. It used to be just slow when loading in the plot but now it just crashes.
On MacOS I get freezes with the "beachball" loading cursor everytime I get a "Goal complete" notification.
Any known issues with this or know how to fix?

[rose thicket]

I run on iOS and MacOS. The system seems way more unreliable now than at launch. I am getting timed out about every 90 seconds with the "session expired" notice. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the client through EPIC numerous times and on multiple devices. It's frustrating! @bitter glade

[slim dirge]

I've had the session expired notice, and I noticed it happened more frequently when I was opening stuff on both devices, so I just stopped doing both and only used one of the two.
But since I can't open my plot anymore on iOS anymore I'd rather have them to fix that first 😄

[open mist]

Hi frens I played 4 lands and got 0.2 ILV as airdrop. I was wondering if that was the "normal" amount, thank you.

[rose thicket]

I am only using one at a time. 95% I am using Macos, which worked great until about 10 days ago. I did update my OS so maybe that is conflicting with EPIC's servers?

[slim dirge]

Yeah I definately saw more login/connection issues over the past 2 to 3 weeks as well in general.

[rose thicket]

Surely the team has feedback or means to monitor such a major OS update? Kieran stated he plays on macOS. If it is known issue why not disclose and state that it is being worked on like any other $100M+ market cap company would do for its customer base?

[slim dirge]

Uhu, I don't follow along in detail, I just check in sometimes, so I was just wondering if these are known issues and being worked on or something..

[noble crag]

they even not answering tickets, our needs are minority for them

[slim dirge]

You mean specifically Zero users?

[noble crag]

yeap

[slim dirge]

That's a shame, it's the one I like most personally

[rose thicket]

Yes, I got a series of ticket responses this week that we submitted around 60 days ago. The support team must have gone on one hell of a holiday!

[noble crag]

oh, maybe mine would be answered one day as well. from around 5 tickets (OW and IZ) since open beta I got answer on one (OW) with "I'm not reading carefully and not interested in solving it" attitude. And no update on that single ticket since I reply with more details to take a look. So basically none of my tickets were answered (though some were solved with time past)

[rose thicket]

Support inaptitude with such a minimal player base combined with no viable fiat onramp when Stripe has a built-in IMX solution is a real head-scratcher for an economy centered around frequent micro transactions. The ILV team's ability to "cut the wood and carry the water" on such operational fronts 60+ days into mainnet is problematic. It makes communication-related to the idea of migrating the OW to mobile with the internal team that has never done such a project seem like a fairy tale pipe dream.

[radiant sky]

what floor price do you mean?
You can check for what price fuel is selling in the ledger.
Yea, there are not many fuel buyers.
They working on better onboarding and easier spending afaik, isn't finished in a blink.

[radiant sky]

looks linear to me, as it's supposed to be with the linear function of 19:1.

[rose thicket]

Let's keep encouraging them, as the numbers are frightening below expectations... I wish we had a dashboard of leading indicators related to game adoption.

[pure fable]

Are you the owner of Plot 97612 in Illuvium?

[radiant sky]

it's a tier 4

[rose thicket]

Does a compounding Daily Growth Rate of 10%+ seem linear to you? All investors dream of achieving a 10% ANNUAL CAGR. Going from seven T3 lands ~15,000 to ~170,000 inside of 30 days is not linear math.

[radiant sky]

what were your price expectations?

[radiant sky]

ah you talking about ingame progress... you wana see it slowed down?

[rose thicket]

My expectations were 1,000+ daily active buyers of fuel that would scale up to maybe 2,500 inside the first quarter given we had 15,000+ committed OW players in beta. At least that is what I was hearing.

[rose thicket]

The buyers seem to be dramatically contracting per the ledger.

It would be interesting to see August versus September in-game revenues. I expect it to sloop down, just like fuel sales. No startup should show such numbers month over month in any business venture.

[radiant sky]

idk, don't have access to mass data.... but possible

yea, killing milestones surely didn't help holding dau numbers up

[rose thicket]

the macro is changing in our favor as expected for Q4 and ETH rising. if we cannot turn around the trend over the next 90 days it is a true sign of trouble.

all of the key stakeholders should be pounding the table demanding fiat onramp solution ASAP. everything in development should be on hold until that is resolved.

[radiant sky]

not every dev is qualified to work on that.
Putting everything on hold until that's done doesn't sound wise

besides, first we need bugfree and balanced games, every work on marketing or onboarding before that is "almost wasted" time

[wanton canopy]

@rose thicket and @thorny crater I think that there are a few of us who agree on this point. Maybe we can make a coordinated attempt to discuss it with the team. If we can move to a 5% fee for farmers and a 95% tax given to the Stakers then the fuel market can finally settle down to a normal well functioning system.

[rose thicket]

Agreed. I had tons of people in agreement in the "feedback-ideas" discussions.

[rose thicket]

get your point and it is valid. I mean whatever competent resources we have should be focused on fixing the fiat onramp. Kieran is on the record stating this when he returned from holiday, but nothing has been done/finished. Its like the team has ADD or incapable of fulfilling key deliverables inside of deadlines.

One minute, we are talking about "fiat onramps" as the priority, and the next, we are hosting town hall meetings around BEYOND that is to go in November. I seriously doubt that the capability for DISCs to be bought in fuel is even built at this point.

[lyric lodge]

alot of us cannot even access our plots!

[thorny crater]

I’m in no rush for the fix but just giving my feed back.

[rose thicket]

this clip sounds geniune from kieran...I really think this dynamic is plaguing this project; https://www.youtube.com/live/rypgZc6AOBI?si=pFeQtVz1RN0pdbwM&t=760

[wanton canopy]

@radiant sky if we use @polar cosmos ‘s chart for 19 to 24 September we can start with on 19 Sep with $256.71 fuel sales by farmers generating another $4,877.49 production of fuel by the DAO for a total of $5,134.20 available on the market. Players only bought $4,789.58 of fuel leaving a surplus of $344.62 that day. There was nobody to buy that fuel. The next day farmers sold another $188.24 of fuel which triggered the DAO to generate $3,576.56 of fuel for a total of $3,764.80. Players only bought $3,186.80 of fuel that day which left a surplus of $578 to be added to the previous day’s surplus of $344.62. In each of the subsequent days the surplus of unsold fuel increased. This “wrecks” the market in a few ways. Farmers have to wait longer to sell their fuel as the previous day’s surplus has to be sold before they can sell their current sales orders at the same price. If the Farmers reduce their prices then previous orders at a higher price get stuck. In general any market that has consistently more supply than demand will drive prices lower and lower.

[radiant sky]

Idk how reliable that data is, not saying it's wrong data. Maybe @polar cosmos can tell us what's the source of it.
Yes, if there is more supply than demand, prices go down.

I doubt higher prices equals more sales, so even if you change the ratio in fuel sales so the DAO produces no more fuel and add it as kind of fee for every sale instead, the revenue you make as a landholder won't increase but rather decrease since fuel gets more expensive and less accessible with that.
The only thing it does is it keeps assets value up which get farmed by paying fuel.

Also on another note. I feel that many people in here think that 5x bonus is a wrecked market. Keep in mind that fuel is intended to be on a bonus. The intention of the team might be less than 5x but it should by no means get to top rail again.
I would much rather let the market decide where fuel price should be, than manipulating it up with whatever lever someone pulls.
Yes it might get low, especially with more and more land getting into the state of being able to sell fuel, but that basically just means everyone farming now in OW gets an early adopter advantage which in my opinion isn't even a bad thing.

[tall night]

Is there a max level? I seem stuck at 201.

[radiant sky]

that's the current max level

[polar cosmos]

sure, it's from LootRush https://x.com/LootRushGames/status/1839962086610247751

LootRush - rent all gaming NFTs (@LootRushGames) on X

We’re excited to share new insights on @illuviumio Zero! We’ll look deeper into land ownership by tiers (including Megacities) and provide more info on the fuel exchange.

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Twitter · Sep 28, 2024, 9:35 AM

There is much more data here, but that chart seemed the most interesting to me

I am not affiliated with lootrush or anything

[tall night]

Thanks!

[radiant sky]

No, the bonus just thells you the price difference from top rail to the actual price one is buying fuel.
There is no additional fuel given out or printed besides that to keep the 19:1 ratio.

[hasty temple]

[barren turtle]

SICK!!!!

[radiant sky]

top rail was implemented because there was a fear that fuel price can spike so high just a minority can afford playing during certain time periods.

[vernal estuary]

Do plants still negatively affect your Illuvial scanners? In TB I've consecutively scanned at 100% T1, T2x2 and T3 for 32 days now. Keep in mind, I was scanning as a built them up. This is all I have to show for it so far. Does in-game exploration, or anything positively affect chances? What else can negatively affect them?

[vast dirge]

anyone having problems logging into some of their plots? all my other plots are fine other than my taiga plot, just keeps relogging me into the game

[thorny crater]

thats a lot. i have a about the same but other have less lol

i been scanning non stop and non stop research for about 2 months now, a little less but close to

[thorny crater]

put int a bug report. mine is doing that too. for about 2 weeks. its when is witch between any other plot it crashes

but it has bee imporving. so far today for the first time it never happened

[vernal estuary]

The scarcity is inane... I mean if you run around of those area.. you see them everyone already, they should be easier to scan.

[thorny crater]

i disagree

they were supossed ot me a one BP only

and no one else can get it

but now me and you can have copies so i say keep it very hard

[vernal estuary]

oh no no... I was referring to illuvial scanning. not the BP

[thorny crater]

ohhhhhh

yeah idk how i feel about thtat

[vernal estuary]

I'd try to show you my BP assets.. but they aren't showing on my illuvidex profile lol

[thorny crater]

i have 38 and been research this guy for the two months. cant get one bp out of him lol

[vernal estuary]

Are you scanning armor or drone ?

[ionic sierra]

When you say sell fuel do you mean sell crypton, hyperyon and solon? Where and how is it sold? I only see that it can be sent to an overworld.

[thorny crater]

im betting on drones beiong like cs@ knives. its a gut feeling only tho

[vernal estuary]

what is cs@ knives?

[thorny crater]

cs2 or counter strike 2

[thorny crater]

BAM

[ionic sierra]

If I do a search for illuvials and nothing is found, do I have to move it and search again? Are illuvials also sold? Where? And for how much? Thanks

[thorny crater]

/illuvidex. illuvium. io/fuel-exchange?section=lite

[vernal estuary]

I never played them, so I don't understand your analogy

[thorny crater]

check out the pined post in genreal for all guildes

no worries i wasnt a big fan but what caught my eye is that some knive skins are in the millions

lets see where they are today

[ionic sierra]

thanks

What is better, getting to level 201 and then starting to sell fuel? or selling from the beginning?

[vernal estuary]

My CW finds, all stage 1 though. Do we still need to find stage 1 of skins/pb and then stage 1?

I'm also trying to determine at which point I can just stop scanning for illuvial with T1 scanners and upgrade all them to T2, then 3 etc

[thorny crater]

depends on your goals. mine is bps for two of my plots and the others are stiraght fuel only. but i say max before selling anything

i paid double the price of the lost costing t3 is now but here is the break down of my land with the current hgihest selling fuel price

[sharp jolt]

It’s a shame how bad Cs2 is compared to Cs Source or CsGo

Hit detection feels kind of weird and the visuals are almost cartoony now

[thorny crater]

I cant find the website i was looking at. my firneds out of state played a lot and i was dannnnnnnnng

when i seeen the prices lol

at the time is was like loswest 300 for knife one

[sharp jolt]

Yea it’s crazy how much people buy and sell some of those skins for

[ionic sierra]

depends on your goals. mine is bps for two of my plots and the others are stiraght fuel only. but i say max before selling anything