🎮〕illuvium-zero

[thorny crater]

but

i found a name

lol

@wide vine if you have that land for sell ill buy it from you lol

crypto is amazing lol

sometimes

[versed warren]

Mmm, not nessarly. The value of land is really is just connected to the amount of players we have. Unfortunately lots are down on there investment however if the team stays true and in the next 6-12 months we see 3 fully fledged games with the features they've promised I can see more players flooding in and land prices coming back up. (None of this is financial advice)

Why what changed?

[radiant coral]

With offers

[noble crag]

But how this is related to Data Bank?

[fair temple]

25-75% success chance dropped to 11-41% (50-150% efficiency respectively)

[versed warren]

Oh, ouch. When did this happen?

[fair temple]

Last major patch 👍

#📣〕announcements message

[radiant sky]

• 50-100%
  Typo in patchnotes

[fair temple]

Oh you are right. That was a typo

And i didnt typo... i forgot 🤣

[thorny crater]

It’s like a power station for labs

Moving this one here tomorrow

[radiant sky]

Do you actually need that?
Feel Like thats a dead Feature since matlabs is capped by 5

[thorny crater]

It’s just easier to see

They blend in with power stations to much

And I have min in order, almost done, by lvls 1-double 3 and a 4

Was clearing one plant for good bit at that spot

[shut wave]

I sent a report ages ago with no response. Can you suggest how can I get some help with this. Its a financial loss.

[crude cosmos]

yo how to research something? coz when i tried to do research, theres nothing there.. is it like, scan first?

[mortal mural]

I manage 17 converters 4 scanners and 4 research labs on a t2 . But 5 of them are at 2 best fuel output passive. 20% path . Currently a converter isn’t connected to path but I think it’s an easy fix

I think if I were not to have scanner I can do 8 more (not sure if max passive efficiency though

[mortal mural]

I actually think a mix of your strategy and mine is the best way but I’m tired and can’t keep testing

The way you place your converters and the way I do mine

I couldn’t place all 4 if I used the corner

[iron bay]

Did anyone else’s iOS app break? Mine sticks on loading screen now

[noble willow]

hey all, got a megacity question. I know there might not be official answers, but what are people's expectations for:

positive/negative effects on a single t1/2/3/4 plot right next to one (either 2x2 or 3x3)
how about 2 megacities lined up directly next to eachother?

[mortal mural]

I did 4 of each in case I were to research at max and scan at max

Oh I see what you say

Lol now I see I made a miscalculation lol

I should have gone 3 and 3 max

At the very max

[barren turtle]

Mine is good

[vivid cipher]

Do you mean plots owned by the same player? Or being impacted by a neighbor?

The potential for additional shapes to be possibly added to megacities has been mentioned in the past.

[iron bay]

Thanks - I sorted it out, apparently when I turned on vpn, the bot protections blocked my app

[barren turtle]

Ah, good to know

[alpine harness]

Yes mine did. I’m also stuck on the loading screen

The “Loading Plot” screen, and then it times out and goes back to my Plots selection screen. I’ve tried logging out, logging back in, uninstalling and reinstalling the app, but I’m still locked out of my plot.

[noble crag]

But it’s already 150% on your map, what’s the point?

[noble willow]

There was talk of impact on neighbouring plots, I was just wondering what that was at all. Is there a production issue, would it be when OW is actually interacting with gyms etc in plots, would it be that close plots would not get visitors etc?

[keen maple]

Hello, i've farmed a few facts recent days about the Nimble Floralynx, thing is, it's not showing up under the "Facts" tab, might be a bug? Also, the picture of Cardulox is not showing in the Biodata.

[shut wave]

Even if it says it has power?

[open stratus]

They know it doesn't show

[fierce jetty]

I have the same problem on android, have you found a fix yet? been having the issue for 4 days now.

[manic gyro]

i just want to get an idea of how long illvium suport take to get back to you as i have had a ticket in for a couple of days now as i can't loggin to one of my plots and it is now falling behind my other 2 land plots and i have not got a responce?

[rotund forum]

does anyone have any blueprint so far that is not for bach or mozart?

[uneven pulsar]

armor only

[uneven pulsar]

it looks like dont need to try find 3d bluprint and concentrate attention on other bl

[pearl marten]

Yep only Bach and Mozart seem to exist so far

And hope this is the first of many

[round harbor]

Thanks a lot for the clarification. It took me some time but I have now optimized my (so far 15% path bonus) tier2 land with
2 150% converters
15 >=126% converters
3 >= 101% converters
13 50% converters (just lvl 4)
1 100% singularity scanner
1 150% material lab

to hit the 20% path bonus. I think the land is now pretty much optimized 😊 and I hope they won’t change the logic again. I really do not want to restructure again 😅.

[thorny crater]

…if I move the data bank 150% will go down

[coral vortex]

I have the same problem many people report here, one of my land plots does not load anymore, just looping back to plot overview screen

is there any news about that? hope it's no hack

[rotund forum]

shit then in 24 hours I´m going to have a lot of dudds

[rotund forum]

first scan T5s3 that I see let alone the blueprint! Congratz mate!

[polar cosmos]

how many crypton converters can i have on 1 land?

[rotund forum]

see that is why there needs to be some kind of wiki. Not guys falling on their noses first and then share the info 😅

[rotund forum]

I think if it is a Tier1 something like 15-16? Superhamster is the expert on that for sure

[thorny crater]

I know I can get 2 of each drone and armor. I wonder if it lets you get dupes

[noble crag]

I mean on your screenshot the lab that you want to move is already 150% without data bank

[thorny crater]

True. But hard to see

Now if I find one they are all in by each other and in lvl order

[pearl marten]

Thank you thank you!
Good luck with your scans!!

[pearl marten]

It shouldn't be possible... but who knows really

[fair temple]

I saw a phosphorus blueprint before 👀

[rotund forum]

but what happend with the 4 drones 18 suits? Only 2 and 2 for now?

[thorny crater]

Whoop whoop another one

[thorny crater]

After I got 2 atlas drones I stop research his stage 1. I’m focused on his stage 2/3 now

But I’m curious to what happens

[harsh dew]

https://x.com/illuvihub/status/1835983221164499422

IlluviHub (@illuvihub) on X

The price of fuel has never been this low! If you're planning to get some, it might be a good idea to follow this historical fuel price chart! #illuvihub

https://t.co/I1N142xuJs

#illuvium #ILV #Fuels

Twitter · Sep 17, 2024, 10:04 AM

[round harbor]

You can only have 12 fuel converter of each kind.

This is how I do it on my tier 2 land. 50% converters only require lvl 4. They return 6 fuel every 144h and upgrading them to lvl 5 or 6 does not improve them. So they have a minimal fuel investment and are totally worth it in my opinion.

I decided to go with 2 150% converters (one 2x3 and one 3x2 size). This way I can simply swap the positions of the Hyperion and Solon converters if I need to convert something.

This way I have in total 33 fuel converters:
2 150% converters
15 >=126% converters
3 >= 101% converters
13 50% converters (just lvl 4)
1 100% singularity scanner
1 150% material lab

[polar cosmos]

36 converters max on 1 land ; o?

[polar cosmos]

nice

[gritty wave]

well Kieran confirmed fuel from land can be used for wave 3 illuvitar disks which should increase demand for fuel, and give an advantage to land owners. If you have never bought a disk, come try it when it launches in a few weeks, and if you like it, move on to the Leaderboard for ILV rewards

[round harbor]

Unfortunately I do not know. Either 36 oder as @south mural said 35. I have no more space to build more and find out …

[uneven pulsar]

do you have more than 2 BL for pocemon? Mozart + bach? Maybe we have limit 2 for dron for each Pocemon

[stiff lily]

whats the listing price on Lesser Grillas Bach?

[iron bay]

I had VPN on - turned it off and the game worked fine

[rotund forum]

no, my max is 2, but there are 4 drones, and I think the other 2 are not released yet. Which probably means not all 18 suits are launched either. So there are quite a few less than 4400 unique ones right now. That is why I asked if anyone had found a blueprint for the other 2 drones.

[rotund forum]

these are the T1 most common ones, I haven´t looked but my guess is only cents, because everyone has several monkeys when they start scanning. And right now demand is little, so maybe in a future when they are no longer obtainable they will become worth more for collectors.

[uneven pulsar]

so maybe that why i can't find anything 4 days coz tried to find extra Blueprint for dron

but max only 2(

[radiant sky]

@verbal igloo are all blueprints in the game, or are we missing some and can't Find them yet?

[uneven pulsar]

I think is it smart to farm only dron BL?)

[pearl marten]

Not only... the cosmetics in gauntlet and survival i think are for the ranger, thus suits

[tardy falcon]

how much passive do you get from the 50% and 100% converters?

[serene iris]

I have a bunch of 50% converters on a t3 plot. They are all level 4 and make 2 fuel a dayish

[foggy sage]

i mean barely even see my dron so the idea of paying money for that skin seems kinda meh\

[round harbor]

On my tier 2 land:

50% lvl 4 converter: 6 fuel /144 h according to the tooltip. If my math is correct, this should result in 1.25 fuel/day with the 20% path bonus.

101% lvl 6 converter: 15 fuel/144h. With 20% path bonus this should be 3.125 fuel/day

126% lvl 6 converter: 18 fuel/144h. With 20% path bonus this should be 3.75 fuel/day

This means 3 x 50% lvl 4 converters are equal to one 150% lvl 6 converter for passive conversion.

Please correct me if I am wrong 🙂

Ps: here I am assuming that the 20% path bonus reduces the 144h to 0.8x144h = 4.8 days. However, I do not know if this is also the formula the game uses.

[formal plaza]

Hello community, I have a question, would it be possible to know the fuel gain for a mine at max level and in how much time? Especially if it is +150% ?

[round harbor]

While I was writing my previous post I was thinking exactly the same 😉. I will definitely try this

[last tiger]

That's a lot of fuel for a tier 2 land brother might be worth it for sure

[gritty wave]

you all realize if we quit selling fuel that we can make fuel go the top rail? Still use your fuel direct to do OW if you have fun doing it, but otherwise not a bad idea to stack fuel and even havve some to buy beyond wave 3 disks in a few weeks where you might get lucky and pull something worth real money that can actually be sold

I think you are absolutely right...few are active...so opec of fuel could easily occur here 😉

stop selling price goes up, assuming any demand

what would you guess is land actively played now? I woulud guess less than 50%...Kieran is not doing his million bucks of land for example

Some big owner of land are waiting for scholars

[brisk sandal]

Hey yall. Just built my 2nd Crypton storage but the maximum Crypton i can have did not change.. can we ONLY have One fuel storage of each or is this a bug?

Yeh ive actually even already LVL up the 2nd Crypton storage a few hours ago but still no change

Discord

Land T4. 1 max level storage for each fuel, and then a 2nd Crypton storage LVL 2

Thou there is no different between the max i can hold of each fuel

Yeh thats what i wastrying to understand

[sage bough]

Having a problem similar to @shut wave on one of my plots. Definitely not a power issue as I have my largest power stations right next to it. Going to check again in ~5 hours

[formal plaza]

???

[sage bough]

Seems to be moving when I check it but coming back some hours later it's still running.

[tall canopy]

Has gameplay gone down for all games? I only ask bc I only log into zero casually maybe 20 min a day and I had no clue I was even gaining season points haha. But I’m in 968th place and we are half way through season. Last couple of rewards seasons I was in like 3,000 or 4,000th place

[sage bough]

Will fuel sites auto-collect if repeat is on?

[tardy falcon]

Ok hmmm... sounds like it's not cut and dry that one way is better than the other.

Personally I dont like seeing sub 100% visually... so having 3x converters at 50% would feel ick even if it were comparable to one at 150% I'd rather just have the 150% Less, simpler, better aesthetic.

other thing is... having more also means more time required to manage over time

[crystal wave]

Playing on a tier 2 , i have 15 converters level 6 at 150 % and 1 level 4 at 107% . is it better to do it another way ? how are you guys building tier 2, also have 1 scanner at 100 %

[tardy falcon]

Ooo curious if that will be optimal for the t1

I have all converters on my t4 at 149 or 179... I actively convert all in order to keep the boosted fuel from taking over too much

17% path bonus cuz that's enough

and plenty room for plants

5 scanners 5 matlabs

[crystal wave]

Want to produce as much fuel as possible 🙂 How many converters can you have on a tier 2 with 101% at l6?

so the best for a tier 2 is to have converters on level 6 at 101%

do you have the produktion numbers on the different choices?

[tardy falcon]

no science?

[crystal wave]

ok you dont go for any scanner

[tardy falcon]

requires too much resources?

makes sense... will all things on illuvidex eventually be able to be bought with fuel?

yep d1sks for fuel

[radiant sky]

Never say never, but highly unlikely

[tardy falcon]

yah I can't see lands being bought with fuel or individual illuvials or illuvitars

but who knows

I think that's one reason why aaraon wants silv2 burned and gone... doesn't bring liquidity into the ecosystem

[radiant sky]

Future Landsales sgould be hold in fuel.

But dex i doubt. Not really beneficial Change for most people, then there are the fees which still have to be paid in crypto currencies

[tardy falcon]

yah... minting is different

that's prob the delineating factor... minted vs aftermarket

[crystal wave]

Whats the number for production in fuel on converters l6 att 150(126) % and 101%

[knotty idol]

Quick question, do converters still provide passive generation of fuel when they are actively converting one fuel to another?

[dry otter]

75 aktiv 18 passiv at 150

[crystal wave]

And at 101

[wicked horizon]

has there been any information around why they chose not to have any multiplier opportunities for Zero players? I currently don't play Overworld or Arena because my computer isn't capable of doing so... there's no way to hit multipliers for season points through Zero at all?

[subtle frost]

Nice..

No one is buying

LOL

since yesterday

[languid flint]

Are your prices too high ?

[empty path]

Well you shouldn't list above the current rate if you wanna sell today 🤷‍♂️

[subtle frost]

I just use the average

okay I'll try again

[empty path]

Crypton is going for 0.00000064
Solon is going for 0.00000060
Hyperion is going for 0.00000060

[languid flint]

Where we can track the prices and order book ?

[empty path]

I just look at the ledger

[subtle frost]

so stupid

why isn't it on the website

I would put at the floor

[languid flint]

What do you mean by ledger ?

[subtle frost]

if they told me

go look in another site

outside of illuvium

because this is all a big secret

[subtle frost]

Thanks man.. I'll list it at that price

[subtle frost]

LOL

okay great

it works

[languid flint]

BRAVO

[subtle frost]

thanks

Jank

[thorny crater]

Yeah it’s like the stock market. Can’t just read the headlines.

I still want to know what rounded loss is tho

[uneven pulsar]

what price was?

[subtle frost]

I made a couple of dollars yeah

[subtle frost]

Crypton is going for 0.00000064
Solon is going for 0.00000060
Hyperion is going for 0.00000060

I used Fraggy

wait

it didn't go through

LOL

[vapid jolt]

You can list them on LootRush, and based on current fuel prices, a T4 would have high demand at $1.5/day.

I’m happy to run the math with you or answer any questions you may have about us.

[subtle frost]

I guess I will keep waiting

Itwas so confusing..

anyways.. it didn't go through

[vapid jolt]

You rent land directly to your LootRush wallet, and any tokens or NFTs you earn in-game can be withdrawn from your LootRush wallet.

Yep!

[thorny crater]

Oh yeah that’s true. I just meant it’s good to dig a little deeper look at the selling numbers.

[thorny crater]

Oh cool cool. Is there anyway to set up something other then x amount of $ but instead can be x amount of fuel? For the illuvuial ecosystem?

Cause I’d work some land for fuel right now lol….maybe

[vapid jolt]

We do have a few T1s available for $0.2/day, although we'd be happy to give you a rental bonus equivalent to 30 days worth of max fuel production for the T1 land (50 Fuel/day * 30 = 1500 Fuel)

• So you can play with it, develop the land for the landowner who listed it, and still earn some Fuel.

Would that work?

[vivid cipher]

I’ve never seen any mention of anything in game occurring regarding neighboring plots owned by other players.

I see nothing in the game design documents. I’ve never seen anything on discord about that. I could have missed it I guess. Let me know if you can find any posts about that.

[pearl sparrow]

is the game playable now?

[dusty sky]

yep

[pearl sparrow]

i cant login, always asking for my passport

[radiant sky]

There was a very short discussion about "what if" from some community members dreaming about the future.

[vivid cipher]

I see. So it’s not actually a thing.

[pearl sparrow]

sorry, got it now, i should not click the google icon but directly input the email

[vivid cipher]

You just have to use the same login method every time or else you’ll have a DIFFERENT account.

[radiant sky]

Yea, not really 😄

[jaunty rain]

does anyone know what i can do with a blueprint in illuvium zero? or can i just send it to overworld and craft something? (or sell it)

[uneven pulsar]

I am so exhausted without any information about megacity)

[dry otter]

Get your extractors ready!!
Tomorrow will beginn a new world! In a few weeks we'll have 10.000+ new player every week!
Drill baby drill!!!

[thorny crater]

Ah. Someone else in wanted to rent out thier t4. Not looking for t1s at all lol.

Thanks anyway.

[dry otter]

Buy a plot quickly! A lot of liquidity will be coming very soon!

[open stratus]

For why

[dry otter]

Fed will start cutting interest rates tomorrow that usually means that markets will pump 3-5 months! And than comes the big bang

If bitcoin break 72000 an altcoins follows than we'll see a lot of new players/collectors and nobody will care about a not ballanced arena!

[vivid cipher]

I’ve checked some of the recent dev docs about implementing mega cities.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-wall-street-leonardo-dicaprio-cheering-chanting-gif-4925094154314135136

[uneven pulsar]

thx buddy

[uneven pulsar]

so now i postponed this deal( coz price for 3x3 is huge but profit will less then 2 t4

[uneven pulsar]

i see a reason to buy megacity coz production share and landmark share - without production, you need mines of each plots like t4 landmark. so its an unreal task)

but will see - what will be in the megacity that I say - wow, I want it)

[vivid cipher]

Some key things are:
-Pooling of resources, storage, and structure limits across all incorporated plots
-Builders and builders cap are pooled
-Megacities will could eventually be able to be expanded and to take other shapes than squares.

[upper whale]

but wen

https://tenor.com/view/harrys-hammer-club-harry-hammer-club-wen-gif-26315615

[vivid cipher]

That I don’t know

[uneven pulsar]

Yes but, I am going to buy 3x3 where every plot has 201 lvl, with almost full buildings that needed.
So 1 and 2 option i don't needed(for full empty lands - maybe yes)
so only left 3 option - Megacities will eventually be able to be expanded and to take other shapes than squares.

In result i pay the same price so 2 t4 lands and give less fuel production but have more space for buildings( I choose 2 t4 and more fuel

@vivid cipher anyway, i so thank you for the last info coz now I can do right solution

+2 t4 lands in my list)

[boreal mantle]

Where can I find my mission dashboard?

[tall crypt]

Spam

[tall crypt]

I am goig to buy nothing. Its impossible buy a megaCitie

[uneven pulsar]

possible but for what?

its hard to buy yes, profit from this - no(

[vivid cipher]

It’ll definitely be purple

[dry otter]

Imagine if we could grow plants in IZ and get them in a real store!? That would be the next lvl of gaming!!
You can grow chillis or tomatos in the middle of the city and pick it up in the illuvium store next to you!

[pearl marten]

Also they should have access to unique buildings ... at least that's what was said

And regarding other shapes Aaron stated that the team wouldn't want to do this because it would be v difficult to implement - what would you then consider a mega? 3x2? 4 plots in a row? .. a U shape? Etc

Not to mention it would screw over people that already went the trouble to acquire one previous to this and paid a premium

[radiant sky]

Why not every shape? Could also do the raindrop shape, so one having 2 plots in two different regions could Form raindrop shape megacity 🙃

[pearl marten]

Of course ... let's make everything a Mega 😄 lol

[pearl marten]

That was **always **the point - Megas should be a rare thing and not something like 50% of holders has

And yeah i know people that waited for 2 years to be able to grab and buy all the plots needed for a Mega - now to add more shapes (i don't really see a good enough reason to do this - as there are Megas up for sale on the market) just because it would be 'cool' or because 'oh wait i'm late to the party and megas are scarce/expensive' it's just stupid imo

There will be 4 more land sales and plenty opportunities to grab and build one in the future

Yeah so? I don't get your point
7.5% = 1500 plots ... that's A LOT taking into account you need only 4 plots to make a Mega

You want one? Go check the land-dex channel and buy it from people that sell them
I don't see your point in adding more shapes? Just because they're hard to get? 😄

Let's make Rhamphyres available in Stage 1 runs cuz i didn't get one so far 😄

You missed the part that megas were always something rare to have

Like dude are you for real? I traded dozens of plots and worked my ass off for more than a year to be able to get mine and you just come here and say i'm selfish? 😄 ... okay let's make everything easy to get and and give everyone everything for free
Do you even understand the concept of rarity? Even before i had mine i advocated that Megas should be something premium to have and not available at any corner

If it doesn't make sense, give me your GOOD reasons then that make sense and are not selfish - oh and btw if i'm selfish i suppose you're not militating for easy to get Megacities just because YOU want one right?

[open stratus]

Militating, nice.

[mortal mural]

I feel I’m getting attacked by plants every time I remove one and want to place a building over its place “error, reloading plot” boom a plant was spawned. It happened 3 times in a row. It’s getting personal

[pearl marten]

Yeah i'm glad you tagged me 'mr. i will sacrifice myself for the greater good' - i didn't saw you in here defending the team when the nerfs came and everyone was furios - you'd better check my messages from those days mr altruistic that knows what's good for the game

You know what i'm done with this stuff, let's just agree to disagree and whatever the team will do there's nothing you or me can do about it

Feel free to block my messages

[round harbor]

The last 2h I tried to increase the number of 101% converters. I have now:
2x 105%
6x 126% (these are at positions where i cannot fit in further converters, so I kept them at 126%)
15x 101%
12x 50%

which sums up to 441 in your table. So at least a slight improvement :). Since I already invested fuel in my 50% converters, I do not want to delete them 🙂 therefore I am probably not going for the full 101% converters strategy. But I am excited to see your plot when it is finished 🙂

[pure fable]

dude, people bought megacities two years ago for a high premium, now they are delayed for like two years and you wanna make it worse by implementing more shapes?! not gonna happen

[pure fable]

? dude, the megacities are 2x2 and 3x3
YOU want to change that to make your plots fit

[pearl marten]

@pure fable The dude is delusional and just keeps avoiding answers... just takes stuff out of context because he wants a Mega and they're hard to get

Thinks if he posts converter efficiencies and plot setups on the channel he knows it all and we're all new here ... love it 😄

I don't see how modifying the shape of the megacities is beneficial for the long-term survival of the game

Why are these such a crucial point in the survival of the game?

[pure fable]

We don't have to do anything, because we don't want the megas to change xD

[hoary gazelle]

do you need 4 plots next to each other or just 4 plots

[pearl marten]

4 or 9 plots in a square shape (next to each other)

[hoary gazelle]

oh ..

[pearl marten]

@bitter glade @verbal igloo
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Is this true? Megacities will now be in more shapes?

This was the last disussion about the topic and there should be a good reason if this gets changed right?

[hoary gazelle]

agree with Torrex, the concept of rarity should be hold up.

[foggy sage]

in 1 min i finish my last L5 material lab and im operation comlete

[pearl marten]

GL with the research!

[foggy sage]

dont need luck my brother, i figured out something kinda game breaking

[pearl marten]

OMG .. please share it with the rest of the class 😄

[foggy sage]

so basically what you do is just accept the fact that your probably wasting your time doing scans and material lab research, that way you are never dissapointed

[vivid cipher]

Well… the team already decided it’s too difficult to implement single viewable square using the current 2d system.

So from a technical sense it does not much matter if it’s square or not.

Plans and implementation changes through development

[vivid cipher]

That “YOU” is definitely misdirected

[vivid cipher]

He simply has repeated what I’ve shared.

All sorts of people can get upset when their expectations are not met. Which is part of why I felt it was a good idea to share what I shared.

I don’t even know for sure what people are EXPECTING from megacities.

[pearl marten]

What was told - like unique buildings in the future ..access to starports for building ships to get off planet for example

Idk what you mean by Expecting but if you re saying that they're just 4 or 9 plots adjacent that can be played as 1 big plot with no other benefit that is concerning imo

[vivid cipher]

I expect there would need to be a lot more universe built before ships off planet would be a thing. Like other games.

[thorny crater]

You have 5 lvl 5 labs?

[pearl marten]

And if another feature that was promised gets changed wouldn't it be nice to share it with the community?

[vivid cipher]

Lands will be able to implement more features over time.

[vivid cipher]

Is the something specific that you are hinting at?

I’m trying to help share information

Bridging the gap between community and devs.

[pearl marten]

Especially with people that are here for years and backed the project countless times

Changing the structure of the megacities is a big change which affects a % holders.

[pearl marten]

Not directing this at you ... just saying that we should have gotten some kind of notice - like you bought megas well they re gonna be changed

This kind of stuff just piles up on all that has happened with land owners over the years

[thorny crater]

Bad side about a 100% open voting project/game/any kind development aspect.

High chance of “too many cooks in the kitchen”

That said.
To those who paid top dollar, I’d be pissed

To those who now have a chance to become a MC. I’d be happy.

[vivid cipher]

This is the discussion.

The first mention happens now.

[vivid cipher]

I don’t think this is too late.

[vivid cipher]

There has been discussion of the possibility of other shapes for a long time. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message
At least that’s my memory. What’s your memory on this spoon?

[radiant sky]

What are the benefits added with more shapes out of the Teams Perspektive?

[vivid cipher]

I think it was simply a possible feature that Ben or Johnny wrote down a long time ago.

[pearl marten]

Last discussion Aaron said the team wouldn't change this without a very good reason

I don't see why it should be implemented just because it's nice or cool or it can be done...

It juts affects people that like i mentioned before have gone trough a lot of trouble maybe to put one together

[radiant sky]

Was always said that more shapes are a possibility, but very unlikely. MC are supposed to be rare, and there are also cool concepts with those rare plots of Land that can bei Made, as the for example the "special Buildings", or a suburbs Feature, or whatever
The more shapes possible the less "special" an MC is. Adding just 1 shape can tripple the amount of mc's, hearing about multiple shapes...

[vivid cipher]

I had not seen that until you shared it. And I have know way of knowing how many zero devs had seen it. Until now.

[pearl marten]

Idk if it was the case, but this means Aaron doesn't have a say in this anymore if the decision has been made

[vivid cipher]

I am trying to say that decisions have not been made

[hoary gazelle]

you describe rarity 😄

[radiant sky]

You say that as if everyone should be able to buy an MC.
That's not the case.

[pearl marten]

You just said that this is what the team decided
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[pearl marten]

Now you re saying it's not decided?

[vivid cipher]

Ah. There won't be a single square view.

That's been decided.

Because that was decided then it meant there was not technical reason not to implement other shapes.

[radiant sky]

What has that to do with people hating the game?

[vivid cipher]

It is not yet decided what will be implemented or when.

[radiant sky]

I know of some people shaping their mc after landsale i guess there are some others aswell, it's not impossible.
There are also future Landsales where people can Hunt for them.
And again, they are meant to be Hard to obtain

Also the main game aspects in future for the Masses of people are not in getting an MC, most people likely don't even own an nft plot.

[pearl marten]

If someone wants a mega now he buys it already completed from someone else
Putting megacities together makes sense when land sales happens so what Hamster is saying doesn't make any sense

[pearl marten]

Okay so i think you should've been more accurate with your statement

[vivid cipher]

Yes. I agree. Sorry. Thank you.

[radiant sky]

Yes, i'm actually exactly in that Position.
And still, opening up mc's for everyone would just close the door to Soo many cool features or Make them not actually really cool anymore. (Besides of rugging the biggest Investors in Land for actually no reason, AT least i can't See it)

[pearl marten]

That's something you take into accout when making the decision to put together a megacity

That's why they are rare because it's a risky feat

OMG this dude 🤣🤣

[radiant sky]

Maybe read again... I would actually Profit from it 😂

I'm curious, what do you actually think would be the benefit?

[grand silo]

so we have some calling for more Megas , hope the dao doesn't mind compensating those of us that paid the premium

or do we we just give a free lunch to the cry babies?

[radiant sky]

So... No benefit?

[pearl marten]

I still don't see what's the benefit

And how can you say that it locks people out? Megas are available to be bought and or put together

That's the risk you take when attempting to put together a megacity dude.

That's why they are rare and should stay that way

[noble willow]

I would sugguest for some types of buildings you need the 2x2 or 3x3 configuration, for some other types you could have the T-shape. I don't have any megacities, haven't gone down that path (would possibly look at it though).

I also don't know what impact they will have on neighbouring plots, there was talk of it being disadvantageous being located next to a megacity when you aren't in one yourself, but I have no details on what that actually meant.

[mortal bough]

If I dont have a megacity, I would want to be located near one due to the likely high traffic going to and from there, stop by and see my illuvial gym to learn ju jitsu on you way out of the city lol

[noble willow]

To reward those who went and got them already you could also have a designation of 'ancient' cities and 'modern' cities, where there are greater benefits to the ancient cities

[noble willow]

that sounds awesome, but what if the megacity has a gym that's 100 levels (exaggeration of course) above yours?
that's the kind of detail I'd like to see before going to grab extra land

[grand silo]

so you cool with giving ftp plots free fuel for ow, after all why not share the love ,or would you be against such move given that you paid good coin for your plots?

[mortal bough]

I got your back Hammy

[mortal bough]

Yeah, of course we would like all the details upfront, but it is never going to workout that way, without risk there is no reward.

[noble willow]

yep. Tha'ts why I didn't buy when land was auctioned, and waited till way after to get my simple t1 plots to settle down on and farm endless plants.

hey hey hey, don't call me that

[grand silo]

seems hamy wants a free lunch but not when it dilutes his own investment

[mortal bough]

I digg it, I would love to have a T3 or T4 or even a T5 when available, but those are all currently outside what I am willing spend for my risk level.

[mortal bough]

Bruh, you didnt even reply to a comment in the discussion with this. Come on man, you right click on the comment you are making your comment about, and then click reply.... easy stuff

Woah, I did not know that. That sounds smart and cool

[noble willow]

for reference, I have looked around one of my plots and there is the option, if I can get in contact with the owners (currently unlisted land), to get a 2x2, or if extremely lucky a 3x3, but you can see the groupings of the same owner on this picture (sorry for the but ugly colours) there is a lot of megacity action, and potential action, around this already. So how is that going to work for me? Is this simply a dead plot?
Mine is in the centre, with the word GREEN

There are other random plots ith the same owner, bu these were the groupings that were logically going to become, or already were, a megacity

[grand silo]

was kind rounding up the discussion wasnt specific to one point, is that easy enough for you?

[mortal bough]

Deep planning going on here man, hope you get what your looking for

[noble willow]

lol, first thing to do if you're going to look into things is recon right?

about 90 mintues of work, shows that it will be difficult to make this worth being a megacity I think. I am happy with the thought of 3 t1 and a t2 to make the 2x2 depending on what the rewards/options are

so if you happen to be magicalkukka0987, miraculousscarabok2779 or the person owning the t2 hit me up for negotiations lol

or if cheap enough I can build the t1s four down in a row if that's going to be allowed in the future.

[grand silo]

free lunch

[noble willow]

I still have to do the looking for my other plot, and my wife's plot.
Am not crying if it doesn't happen, my only focus on this was fuel for overworld

[mortal bough]

Well, the market is always changing, could years before an opportunity strikes to make that dreamed of megacity. The question is, how long will we have to form one, infinite time limit......

[noble willow]

And late early adoption. If/when it gains traction with non-crypto, general game players, particularly for overworld, then the land beomes a lot more valuable.

[hearty cradle]

can someone TLDR me whats going on with megacity

ur kidding right

team said that or just a request

oh. what other shapes?

[compact gate]

can you recommend a guide about energy levels and how it influences production of converters and so on?

[hearty cradle]

2x2, 3x3, then 4x4, 5x5?

[noble willow]

apparently not just squares

[grand silo]

pay the premium like the rest of us and stop trying to get a free lunch cause you didnt go ham like some of us did at the auction.

[noble willow]

any press is good press

[hearty cradle]

ok lets make sure this wont happen

[mortal bough]

What about megacity land portals, so that each of my lands have a portal to connecting them to make one giant megacity that covers multiple regions.

[noble willow]

lol come on, don't hold back, stir the pot a little bit. don't be so reserved

[hearty cradle]

Can i make my F2P plot a megacity too

[peak hawk]

Does anyone know when illuvium Zero Resets.(end of season I mean)

[serene iris]

The resets are over

[noble willow]

changing tack for a sec, is there any visible symbol in game to show which goals you've achieved are part of the daily/weekly airdrop tasks?

[peak hawk]

So the buildings will stay at their lvl? (Exp: max lvl)
They won’t reset to lvl 1?

[noble willow]

how much are you willing to spend for this?

2 years development in each plot?

[mortal bough]

All jokes aside, this would be cool to have portals between lands you own to share resources with your other lands.

[grand silo]

all ive heard is the benefits for those who dont currently have megas, would there be any benefits to the current mega city owners with the proposed change?

[mortal bough]

Maybe a tier system for when the MC was established. The older the MC, the more perks

Then also, designate a virtual MC as the bottom tier since it would be more common, but have some perks

[grand silo]

would the perks be equal to the advantages Megas currently have

[mortal bough]

I am not sure of all the perks that are planned at the moment.

[grand silo]

ok so currently its kind of a one sided arguement then. dilute the advantage of megas for a maybe perk

[mortal bough]

?zero-megacity

[lethal wyvern]

What are megacities in Illuvium: Zero?

Megacities allow adjacent plots that make up a 2x2 or 3x3 square to be combined to form one larger plot.

The expected benefits of a mega-city are:

• the ability to share landmark bonuses between plots,
• the ability to share resources between plots with no transfer cost (in either time or resources)
• the ability to share support buildings like the Engineering Lab resulting in increased available space.

Megacities are not currently available in Illuvium: Zero and a specific date for their implementation has not been announced.

[grand silo]

you guys come back with a solid equal win/win then im open to listening

atm it seems very one sided

[mortal bough]

I think you should help come up with the idea. I am not sure what side I am on, currently trying to find some oppurtunities to establish a megacity.

[grand silo]

win/win is the only way. hamy & co so far have just presented a win/lose

[mortal bough]

I would like to see MC's get a rare landmark added to them if T2 the majority is made of the MC is made up of T2 lands

Maybe tier ones get to be established as farms opposed to MC's

[noble willow]

as I said, give 'ancient' cities a bonus/thing only they can do.
Put a cut off date so those who want to strive for that can get there, which will actually pump land values for the period at least

Then add the other configurations that give something to strive for, which again pumps the land values.

[grand silo]

im happy with the current arrangement which paid a premium for. +50% floor on my t1 and +100% on my T2

[mortal bough]

What about something that loops in the Beyond game for the original MC's

[vivid cipher]

I possibly misread the dev pages. The discussion may have just been that it’s technically feasible to implement non-square shapes as megacities (which is true, but not immediately possible). However, when/if zero is transitioned to 3d art instead of 2d then other shapes would be significantly more difficult to make work.

[noble willow]

yep, but how are you going to get the value back into your land? All tokenomics currently are in the trash, and there needs to be ways to build it back up. As long as your return is percentage above others, how does that ruin your life?

[grand silo]

im open to anything that is a equal win/win not this free lunch nonsense

[mortal bough]

Have to agree, you have to want an overall win to see you individual win.

[grand silo]

not about ruining ones life its more about fairness. At the time of sale I sold other assets to get what I wanted which any of you could have done. show me how this proposed idea benefits the entire game then ill be open to waiving my Megas current advantage.

[mortal bough]

Maybe a Beyond Art Muesem

[noble willow]

any good website devs here? Been playing with an idea to launch, would be happy to share with the right person and NDAs etc

I can't code for shit

[grim pilot]

I am playing arena and overworld on pc but not zero
So can I play zero also on pc?

[noble willow]

yes you can

[vivid cipher]

This discord server does not have a place for advertising or recruiting

[noble willow]

ok, was about something for illuvium, and generating stuff for players, but point taken. I can see why that would be the case

[spring jetty]

fuel keeps getting cheaper, is overworld dying again

[shut wave]

The whole NFT space is disgusting right now.

[prime raven]

@whole spear No fix yet on the Loading Plot issue ? , already several weeks stuck on Loading Plot screen

[whole spear]

I know there was a fix planned for last week, didn’t happen, was meant to go out originally with previous fix but didn’t make it. I’ll see what the latest is

[prime raven]

ok, hope it can be fixed soon

[subtle frost]

is that too expensive to sell at?

[open stratus]

Hey I have an idea, we should probably cut fuel production by an additional 99%

[tardy falcon]

So I kinda missed all the Megacity talk from earlier

What's the deal?

Now any combo of plots are megacities?

So If I buy two plots next to each other that's a megacity?

[empty path]

really?

[tardy falcon]

Idk... just hearing a lot of drama about megacities now

was going to buy another but now I'm like wait

wtf is going on

[vivid cipher]

I possibly misread the dev pages. The discussion may have just been that it’s technically feasible to implement non-square shapes as megacities (which is true, but not immediately possible). However, when/if zero is transitioned to 3d art instead of 2d then other shapes would be significantly more difficult to make work.

So it seems like there’s not actually going to be any change to the shape of possible megacities.

[vivid cipher]

Not really

[empty path]

Ah that's good, would not be really nice to people that already got one

[quaint prism]

In a quick search couldn't find a thing to link to (remember it from town halls) but pretty sure the team's stance has always been "2x2 or 3x3 squares" with the caveat that someone could make an IIP if they didn't like it.

[rustic depot]

In online games(MMORPG etc), scarcity is the most important element for success.
If destroy the concept of a 22 or 33 megacity and make it lose its scarcity, the game will be over. Games are about competition, not equality.

I've been thinking about this for a while,
but I think that the person in charge of development probably hasn't played MMORPGs like that before,or has only played them a little.

They don't understand the feelings of the users.

As for Illuvials, everything is trash now. There is nothing rare about it, so people don't want to pay a lot of money for it.

[verbal igloo]

Megacities will only be 2x2 and 3x3 initially. We are taking in consideration other kind of shapes for other kind of mechanics as well, but not for the megacities as of right now.

[uneven pulsar]

Remind me pls how much now have t-50 fuel, t4- 1350, and t2 and t3?

[pearl marten]

Thank you for clearing this.

So at the moment it's just a possibility for future developments and will not be in place for the initial megacities release

[verbal igloo]

yes

[pearl marten]

T2 - 150
T3 - 450

[uneven pulsar]

Thx man

[pearl marten]

If you're still around can you share some details about the skins recipe? It will still require an Illuvial to be burnt in the process?

I've asked this 2-3 times before but got no answer (maybe it's not clear how it will work yet or you've missed it idk)

[pure fable]

you are so wrong xD
I also see you joined illuvium AFTER the land sale.
Of course people who paid a big premium for megas don't want them to get diluted by more shapes in the near future.
That is completely normal.
Also I don't see why the additional shapes should get implemented NOW before megas are even live. I see absolutely NO reason to do that. Everything you mentioning regarding longevity of the game is utter nonsense I am sorry.
Also the team just lowered the fuel output for every plot. Increasing the amount of megas would again result in a higher fuel output overall which would have a bad impact currently.

[whole spear]

Personally I think it gives people more opportunity to split their mega cities if they wanted to. Say you have a 2x2 and you and can split that into 2x1s, sure you’re not getting everything back on that. But recouping some and still have benefits of the mega city. And I do have land and was not on team back then and still think it’s a good way to give some more utility. This is my personal opinion on this. It’s not like it keeps you from having your 2x2 just makes it more accessible for others

[pure fable]

I guess you have multiple NFTs in the illuvium universe that are pretty rare.
That you paid a lot of money for or put in some work or got very lucky.
How about making them more accessible for others now?

[whole spear]

Yeah and they aren’t worth what I paid for them, but long term onboarding more people into the ecosystem in a good thing for the game and that investment

[pure fable]

But the other shapes are out of the window as a mega for the near future anyway (as I just read)

[whole spear]

Yeah from what Theo said, I’m just saying I don’t think it’s a bad idea, it gives you as a megacity owner more capability to choose

[pearl marten]

Can't be with you on this one Rich. A mega owner wouldn't want to split his and make it so accessible like 50%+ of holders have a megacity - it just makes them from rare assets into very common ones

[whole spear]

Say you come on hard times

And need to sell

Well you could sell part of it

[whole spear]

The megacity 2x2/3x3 would still have a better benefit though

It’s still more rare

[hearty cradle]

hopefully,
4x4 and 5x5

[whole spear]

I just don’t see how more options as a megacity owner is a bad thing.

[hearty cradle]

what about 1x1 ser

[whole spear]

Best megacity

[rotund forum]

Hmmm I seem to have won some tickets. That doesn’t smell like a s cam at all 🤭

[whole spear]

Jag is hosting a party

[hearty cradle]

#votefor1x1megacity

[whole spear]

Spoiler

It’s a scam

[pure fable]

no no, you are twisting things up, "giving the mega owners more capability to choose" makes no sense

[whole spear]

How

[pearl marten]

I just don't see how making megacities everywhere is a benefit

[hearty cradle]

lets give everyone mansions

lets ban commercial flight!

[whole spear]

😂

[hearty cradle]

private only!

[whole spear]

Like I said this is my opinion of it, I just disagree that this hurts mega city owners

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/riding-plane-omw-im-coming-gif-8158394

[whole spear]

There is going to be more mega cities anyways when the other 80k plots sell. And yeah you can say there is your accessibility

But if we plan/hope to have millions of players and adoptions

[pure fable]

"mega owners have more options now! .... .. .. ... and yeah we diluted them by 4x"

[whole spear]

This just seems a tad greedy to me

[hearty cradle]

lets start with a 100k players first 😓

[pearl marten]

But what's the benefit of having megacities everywhere?

[whole spear]

There is a ton of things we could to give full square plots more benefits to owning

You’re acting like the game is in its end state

If the 2x2/3x3 is 4x better production wise or even like the other guy mentioned, specialized buildings, then what?

[uneven pulsar]

Actually I don't see benefits) comfortable yes, but not benefits - in my opinion benefits = generate more fuel, but after calculation I see that better buy separate 2 t4 then 1 megacity t4 t3 3t2 4t1

[whole spear]

It’s obviously beneficial to own a ful plot

[hearty cradle]

whales want exclusivity

[whole spear]

They could still have it lol

[hearty cradle]

not if u starting calling other shape megacities too

altho my F2P is identified as a 2x4 megacity tho

[whole spear]

You don’t have the benefits of owning that full square plot though(whatever it could be) is what I’m saying that’s your exclusivity

[hearty cradle]

lets call it something else

like poorcity

[whole spear]

Maybe that’s why ppl are mad

Call it a favala

[hearty cradle]

lets call it salt lake city

[whole spear]

Call it California

[hearty cradle]

🧂

ohio?

[whole spear]

Looks nice, but not really that great

[pearl marten]

Favalas should be half a square.. half a plot

[hearty cradle]

oh i know.
Compton

https://tenor.com/view/comptons-most-wanted-cmw-mc-eith-carryminati-lowrider-gif-23031234

[whole spear]

Compton ain’t that bad

Bakersfield

Or Fresno

Whatever the name is sure call them something else

[hearty cradle]

"yomama"

[whole spear]

But yeah my point stands that the benefit of owning the full square plot would outweigh the “dilution” people are concerned about

Or should if this was to be implemented at whatever point

Maybe that person that buys 1 plot decides to buy two because that boost? Then it snowballs and then want a full square

[hearty cradle]

what shapes are we talking about here

[uneven pulsar]

I think when we see the final list of full advantages for a megacity - 1st calculate profit from fuel 2nd - see the comfort from managing this city and then tell - wow, that is great, unfortunately now I can't say it now coz price for the city too much, profit less.

[pure fable]

actually, increasing the megacity shapes would probably result in a smaller Zero player base since owning a single plot gets less attractive

[whole spear]

I think there wasn’t too much in the way of “limitations” from what I remember on shapes. But we could define that obviously. For this conversation I'm assuming 2x1 3x1, maybe L shaped for the 2x1x1? Dunno if that makes sense haha

[whole spear]

Owning a single plot is already pretty unattractive imo. But that's another issue.

[pure fable]

yeah and it would get even worse with more shapes

[whole spear]

Again your assuming the game is in some sort of end state

[pure fable]

no just easy to see that more mega shapes would reduce total player amount

[pearl marten]

What about people that already own one? I don't see how this benefits them

You're saying give full advantages to a 2x2 3x3 but let's make mini-megacities available for everyone.. still can't see any benefit

[whole spear]

Its not available to everyone, people still have to buy and sell these things

Maybe you can sell your single plot for a better price now and upgrade

[pearl marten]

Yes but 2xt1s are not that expensive

[whole spear]

Because that guy next to your single plot can use it

[whole spear]

Ser for who?

Jag and me are wagies

[whole spear]

That ups the premium

[hearty cradle]

What is wagies

[whole spear]

For that connected plot

Immediately

[uneven pulsar]

i think the 1st - t4 will share production for fuel mines on other lands 300% + landmark - other t3, t2,t1 have limit for fuel mines but on this case price megacity will increase, t4 to the moon t3 to the moon and it will be exclusive )) Buy maybe its to fat) But we don't know hom much megacity we have now? 10+ only maybe its not fat that i think

[whole spear]

Hard to say as some people have them split in wallets for safety

But the “confirmed” number was low yes

[pearl marten]

I think the premium was and is now - if you dillute that it's not a premium anymore

As i said let's make Rhamphyres available in stage 1 runs cuz people can't afford stage 3 runs

[whole spear]

Technically you could find one I think

Just very low chance

[uneven pulsar]

so maybe this boosts prices for cities and ppl feel like i have something exclusive . I don't think in this case we push disbalance for a 10 megacities in fuel ecosystem

[pure fable]

what are the numbers of megacities?

[whole spear]

I mean the meeting I was in I don't remember the exact number I'm sure someone will correct me but I remember the number being lower than I thought… gimme a minute… but again this isn't 100% accurate because I know personally people split plots between wallets for safety

[uneven pulsar]

now if you have t4 with landmarks but other lands don't have the same mines - its smash, and find megacity with t4 landmark + the same mine for other lands - it is a jackpot

[quaint prism]

The bonus from connected paths will be huge if it goes above 20% time reduction. Plus landmarks, plus new features. It'll be very stronk I think

[pearl marten]

The landmark bonus will stay only on the plot that has it otherwise a T4 T1T1T1 would transform in 4 xT4 plots but with less extractors - at least that's what the original idea was

[uneven pulsar]

yes this point is good limit mines for t1 -1 and bonus production and land mark

without bonus landmark and production I don't understand sens with this rarity and price for megacity

[uneven pulsar]

what bonus do you mean?

[quaint prism]

Activities can be up to 20% faster right now based on how many buildings are connected by the same path.

[radiant sky]

• landmark should spread
• bonus production shouldn't spread

[radiant sky]

i doubt path bonus spreads and stacks, but who knows

[fierce jetty]

When are you guys going to fix the loading screen error? We get no messages through email when making a ticket..

[pearl marten]

But that's what a landmark does right? Gives a bonus... i don't understand what you mean by that

[radiant sky]

land mark gives you + efficiency which spreads and stacks.
but the production boost bonus from t2/t3/t4 doesnt spread and stack.

?zero-megacity

[lethal wyvern]

What are megacities in Illuvium: Zero?

Megacities allow adjacent plots that make up a 2x2 or 3x3 square to be combined to form one larger plot.

The expected benefits of a mega-city are:

• the ability to share landmark bonuses between plots,
• the ability to share resources between plots with no transfer cost (in either time or resources)
• the ability to share support buildings like the Engineering Lab resulting in increased available space.

Megacities are not currently available in Illuvium: Zero and a specific date for their implementation has not been announced.

[pearl marten]

Oh yeah got it.
You're right

[radiant sky]

it's more or less the only benefit MC's gona have... don't take that away 😄

[uneven pulsar]

but i have now 20%) 20+20%?

[uneven pulsar]

so in this case i need other lands with the same mines like t4) so it is hard to gathering city + t3-t2-t1 with the same mines for bonus t4) to much if)

[rotund forum]

wow, that was the biggest text wall since yesterday since forever! Must be a good sign! 🤪

[uneven pulsar]

yeap) i Only ask about production + lanmark about city))

So after a lot of calculation, I see that - the best option 3x3 city + t4 landmark + total of all plots ith this city should have 12-15 mines like t4 landmark - another optio better buy 2 t4

without t4 I don't see reason for megacity now

[fierce jetty]

Got any anwser about the loading screen error when entering a plot. Many players experience this. We dont get any anwsers from support. I get it if you can't do anything about it, but would atleast be nice to hear if it could be fixed in next patch or atleast that no one on the team knows how to fix it.

[whole spear]

A fix is coming

[fierce jetty]

Thanks

[vocal pasture]

Is it possible to make on offer for an unlisted land? And hope owner somehow sees it? 🙂

[harsh dew]

Any logical explaination why Fuels price is that low ?

[empty path]

People want instant sales so they list below floor price

[harsh dew]

I would love to track fuel productions and # of active players + book orders.

[radiant sky]

no

[vocal pasture]

tought so....

thanks 🙂

[radiant sky]

• no increase in OW DAU
• more and more land hitting the state of selling fuel.
  Many wallets waited for 2nd wallet support, some where buiilding out there plot more chill and not grinded hard. All those are about to sell or soon in that state.

[fair temple]

• The active players modtly were landholders themselves and can now just send fuel to themselves.

Not based on facts but my thoughts.

[radiant sky]

most can't do very much in ow with their own fuel production.
Don't think that's a factor to really consider.

uncertainty could be a factor to consider aswell.
Many community members don't know what to do, should they buy/grind high stats illuvial, or do stats not really matter if/when stat reroll is coming. Is the game half the price in 2 weeks so one can farm way cheaper and asset prices go down on the dex. What's up with the airdrop, how will it look next season etc.
At the moment there is no incentive to jump into the cold water and just do it and it's in my opinion still a very expensive game so people evaluate, if you want a good stat illuvial (not perfect stats) then you pay 60$+ and you need many of those and also weapons and armors to build at least 1 team, and you wana have the option to switch teams to have fun or play competitive, right.

There's time to just wait and see what's coming, see how fuel prices go lower and lower, how is airdrop looking next season, how will tournaments and leaderboard incentives be distributed between casual and leviathan etc.

[random cobalt]

Need this so bad... or at least I want this so bad.

[thorny crater]

First time I ever got a blue print on the first research ever….ill take it

[thorny crater]

Bot and myself would love this lol….i am not a bot but I want it too haha

[thorny crater]

This is true. I have 1 t3, 2 t2s, and 3 t1s….iam just about to get my t3 max to where my fuel will have extra.

Grant it on t3 I look for bps 4 scanners(lvls2-almost 5) & 5 labs(lvls1-5) going 24/7
One t2 is just starting to be able to research but not constantly

The rest have lvl 8-9 nexus just trying to get maxed. So all fuel is put back into the land

Here is my t3 example. What I have left:
1 scanner to update to lvl 5
2 labs - update to lvl 4 and the other to 4 then 5
Storages for fuels all 3 are lvls 3/4 need to make 6
1 lvl2 data bank need to be maxed(lvl3) which is 200 Solon alone.

Then just collect every day. This is where I’ll start doing more stage runs

[pseudo pulsar]

Any T1s at peak production?

[real mountain]

Im also curious in any t1s

[neon vault]

how to get facts?

[willow torrent]

talk to me in a month haha

[grand silo]

once you get a blueprint can you rescan and go for a second one?

[dreamy mist]

We can use our own Fuel now??

[fair temple]

press on your fuel storage capacity in the top right corner. then transfer!

[pearl marten]

Seems like so but i haven't gotten a 2nd blueprint yet (i know you can get for suit and drone) but 2 BPs for suits for the same biodata I'm not sure

[grand silo]

would be nice to have a second:)

[neon vault]

can someone answer me? i keep getting biodata but not facts

[grand silo]

@high sleet do you know if we can get more than one bp off the same bio data?

[grand silo]

materials lab scans get facts

[ancient nacelle]

Yes. 4x drone BP's and every suit BP per biodata.

[prisma trout]

@pseudo pulsar
Goodness no. I'm on the game a lot & it's a slow grind. My nexus is stilll at L7 because it takes so much fuel to update & I need to very much update my fuel storage to get things done, hence updating the nexus & other buildings to be able to do it. I'll get there. I would love it if it would be returned to the apha way, using hydrogen, etc. to upgrade instead of fuel. Of course, I'm trying to get missions done as well so, that takes up storage converting things.

[grand silo]

sorry still a little confused, is that 4 suits and 4 drones per bio data I have? so if I have 5 biodatas I can get a max of 20 of each?

[high sleet]

To my understanding that was never the plan

Oh wait

there is 19 bp off each biodata

15 suits and 4 drones

but i dont think u can mint each bp twice

[grand silo]

so there are 15 different ramphy blueprints to get? I dont play the other games. lol im confused

I think I get it

[high sleet]

There are 4 unique drones. And 15 unique suits

U can find a specific blueprint for all of the above for every Illuvial

[coral vortex]

ok so it is a bug and the land plot is not lost / hacked? good to know that it will come back and a fix is coming

[silver plover]

We can’t do anything with blueprints still right?

[hoary gazelle]

will it be possible to buy a second builder with money of passport ? i did a lock of my phonecontract for games

[tardy falcon]

so we going to be able to see all the plots at the same time on megacities?

[fierce fern]

seems like Land droping again ultra hard.

Looks like most people lost faith, otherwise they would buy at this prices...
Owners always tell how they would invest there money but if not even the Team buying at this prices they all lost faith too in my opinion.

[pearl marten]

Oh defintely

[hazy tartan]

Almost there 🤞

[ivory badger]

I would love to buy a few more plots of land , but right now at Boeing we are on strike so I’m not spending money

[empty path]

Buying in the hard and uncertain times is when the money is made
NFA
DYOR

[fierce fern]

I am thinking about it too at this prices, but maybe its better to dont pull the trigger

[hazy tartan]

I am literally sweating waiting for some expendable lmfao

[pearl marten]

For now there are only 5 suits and 2 drones... as we haven't seen other BP apart from Bach and Mozart .. as for the suits i haven't seen anyone find a stage 2 or 3 suit line

[ivory badger]

I really want to buy a couple tier3 lands , but this strike could last into November

[high sleet]

Yeah I spoke with @chilly shore and he said he expected there to be 4 drones. Will investigate

Didn't know about stage 2 or 3 suit line but now we do

[chilly shore]

as for the suits i haven't seen anyone find a stage 2 or 3 suit line

My understanding is not required. BP will for for S1-S3 of each line

[high sleet]

Oh I see

@grand silo so 9 possible blueprints, but we dont know where the other 2 drones are

[chilly shore]

Will see what I can find out

[fierce fern]

i always thought this blueprint ides is worth the buy.

But there should really be more information about it

[pearl marten]

Oh okay. So basically if you find the Stormail line you can make the skin for any of its stages

[chilly shore]

I've got a pretty good undestanding of how it works..

Feel free to ask questions here and ill see what info I can provide

[chilly shore]

That is my understanding yes, Should be able to test with current BPs from the IZ Alpha

[pearl marten]

I've been trying to get info if the skins recipe will remain the same -> most important if an illuvial will be burnt in the process

I personally find it a very good burn mechanic which shouldn't be discarded even if it makes skins a bit more costly

[chilly shore]

Yeah, should be the case.. again testable with the Alpha BPS?

I don't think we'll ever see that go away

[pearl marten]

People that can craft alpha skins using alpha bps are only paying a Solon cost to craft the skin

[chilly shore]

You want a T5S3 set of armour, expect it to be expensive... Especially if its the T5 Armour as well

[swift grove]

Hi,
I can’t see my assets(land and blueprints) in my profile and my wallet. please guide me what do I do?

[pearl marten]

So that's why I'm asking about this.. for the moment to craft a skin you only need the BP and solon

[chilly shore]

Ah

Interesting, I always heard that burning an illuvial was a requirement..

[pearl marten]

Yes that's what we knew and was originally designed...
But with changes that have been made I've asked this several times but didn't get any answer

[chilly shore]

Blueprints and Crafting is being worked on.. I'd expect burning will be required once ready.. I'll ask internally on that one and see what the plan is

[pearl marten]

It would be much appreciated if we can get some info on this please

[fierce fern]

I would have some questions and maybe they are already answered

1. Is ther already a market Place for Blueprints?
2. Can you see how they look somewere because only the look will people make to buy them?
3. why do i need to upgrade singularity scanner after Lvl 3
4. How much Biodata can be safed at each Lvl?
5. And how much Blueprints can be found on 1 Plot?
6. i have different land Plots but find everywere almost the same LVL 1 Biodata.. why???
7. It much different then the Blueprints from the tests there were 3 to be found why now 4 drone and 8 armour?

i think i have a lot more but

[chilly shore]

@high sleet / @pearl marten Drone Skins is a bug

[cerulean nest]

Every time I see a member of the team 'explain' blueprints, I become even more confused...

Get a blog out already, it's getting a little ridiculous

[fierce fern]

I think they done a good job into building 3 games but the longer it goes the more i think the hole systeme is to complex for mainstream.

Basically good team good work but just too much stuff was build

[pearl marten]

1. Yes and no - yes because people can buy/sell the Alpha blueprints
   No because the new blueprints can't be minted yet

2. No not that i know of

3. Because you can find Tier 4 and Tier 5 biodata (you might be confusing tiers 1-5 with stages 1-3)

4. Not really understand your question

5. Indefinitely as it stands right now

6. Maybe you just need to upgrade your scanners

7. Don't know exactly what are you refering to

[chilly shore]

Is ther already a market Place for Blueprints? https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/zero/blueprints
Can you see how they look somewere because only the look will people make to buy them? https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/arena/enhancements/suit-skins - No asset images yet
why do i need to upgrade singularity scanner after Lvl 3 T3 scanner can finx a max of T3 illuvials, Higher T4 unlocks higher tier Illuvials
How much Biodata can be safed at each Lvl? Guessing you mean for
And how much Blueprints can be found on 1 Plot? In theory, Thousands if you are lucky.
i have different land Plots but find everywere almost the same LVL 1 Biodata.. why??? Should be fixed in the latest patch
It much different then the Blueprints from the tests there were 3 to be found why now 4 drone and 8 armour? Previos BPS were part of Alpha IZ and a test

[pearl marten]

Meaning?

[chilly shore]

Only 2 types of drone skin being found..

Looks to be a config issue.. Team is looking into it

[pearl marten]

Okay thanks for confirming

[chilly shore]

Anyone here have a huge amount of Biodata?

[cerulean nest]

Define huge lol, what's the total currently discoverable?

[chilly shore]

135

[cerulean nest]

I'm at 79/135 then

[chilly shore]

Nice

[cerulean nest]

WHat about you?

[cerulean nest]

Oooh nice you got scoriox

[chilly shore]

Yeah.. Got him today

I really need to fix that land, its a mess

3/5 scanners, Plants everywhere, path bonus still low

[next juniper]

Congrats on the Scoriox. You should def try to get blueprints for that one.

[chilly shore]

Upgrading to T4 Mat Labs right now 😄

[exotic escarp]

What does scanning illuvials and blueprints do?

[chilly shore]

Scanning gives you the chance to find Biodata

[exotic escarp]

What’s that?

[chilly shore]

You research Biodata for the chance to get a Blueprint

So this is Biodata

[exotic escarp]

And what did the blueprints do

[chilly shore]

You can research a Drone Skin or Armour Skin

One you find one, you get a Blueprint

Once Blueprint Minting is availible, you will be able to Craft armour / drone skins

If no one finds a blueprint for a collection, it wont be craftable.

So there is a possibility that if you research something to end up with something unique.

I think there's 15 Armour BPs and 4 Drone BPs per Illuvial.. So 2565 possible blueprints to find

[pearl marten]

I think i have about 80

[pearl marten]

But how is it 15 Armour when you can craft any stage of a suit if you have the stage 1 BP? I haven't seen anyone finding a stage 2 suit bp

This means that it's 5 BPs per illuvial for suits

[chilly shore]

Each Crafting Stage has 3 Armour Types

so 5 Stages * 3 Armours ?

15 Blueprints

[pearl marten]

Yes but if i have the Stormail stage 1 BP .. i can craft the stage 2 and 3? Or i need to find their respective BPs (for stage)

[chilly shore]

T1, T3, T4

[chilly shore]

Just find the 1, can craft all 3

[pearl marten]

And 2 other rows above but the best are these:)

[chilly shore]

What S3's?

I don't have too many yet

That's pretty cool!

[pearl marten]

Yep thanks
I have Geysser also

[chilly shore]

I hope applying a Geysser skin makes your ranger fat

[pearl marten]

🤣🤣

That would be so cool

Also do we know if the skins are actual skins? Or only color pattern on the suit as we ve seen before

[chilly shore]

I need 2 More scanners on this land.. anyone have a good idea where to put them?

[chilly shore]

What do you mean by Skin vs Colour pattern?

[pearl marten]

Behind the Nexus..
Brb

[pearl marten]

I mean like a suit with a different model or effects

To actually change the suit visible

[chilly shore]

I know what some look like...

[pearl marten]

And..?

Give us some alpha

😅

[chilly shore]

The concepts I saw were more skins, not changes, but they had a lot of detail

I haven't seen a final one though.. I only saw concepts

[pearl marten]

Now I'm hyped

[chilly shore]

I'm not dropping leaks 😄 These are public already

https://twitter.com/illuviumio/status/1644490673209622531

Illuvium (@illuviumio) on X

Twitter · Apr 8, 2023, 12:01 AM

I think Armour is a bit more fancy than it use to be, So we'll have to see 🙂

[slim wigeon]

what about VFX for stage 3's or maybe only T5 s3?

[chilly shore]

Like I said, I haven't seen any skins in game, no can't comment on that one

I'd expect a S3 illuvial to look better than an S1 on a skin

But no idea on VFX

[slim wigeon]

I hope we will get VFX at least for Stage 3 and maybe only for high tiers at least something.
Give us something to burn our Illuvials and look like a god when playing 😉

[chilly shore]

I just grabbed on of the T1S1 skins off the market to take a look

[stable quail]

is a t1 land better to farm fuel or blueprints?

[chilly shore]

Not sure.. I haven't put enough time into my T1s to get anywhere near the level to do either

[shut wave]

What?! Does that mean i can sell blueprints now?

[chilly shore]

No

These were leaked on Twitter last year

[timber sapphire]

Well technically you can sell your alpha blueprints

But I'm not sure about the skins

[chilly shore]

You can sell Alpha Skins

I just grabbed one

Anyone know how to use these?

[whole spear]

Press x on the suit you own

You need a plating suit though

[whole spear]

I can give you the others haha

I accieentally minted a bunch

[chilly shore]

Nice

[pearl marten]

And this is only a stage 1 illuvial right?

[chilly shore]

Yep, Stage 1, Alpha IZ Blueprint / Skin

[pearl marten]

I think stage 3s will look awesome

[chilly shore]

I just crafted a full set of Plating Skins

[whole spear]

Yrssss

[formal plaza]

Hi team, would it be possible to know how much fuel a mine generates at max level? At 100%?

[mortal mural]

this one looks fire

[mortal mural]

this one

can somebody talk to the team so we can keep some form of biodata? because to me its more like collecting pictures lol

[mortal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/feeling-tasty-taste-gif-25488955

[gritty wave]

most seem to think blue prints, and esp. with plant dyes coming...space is the advantage to t1s...fuel takes a long time 😉

[polar cosmos]

they are so cheap...

[thorny crater]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh snap

he do be slappin

I have my bps from testnet in my passport but not sure why i cant not make them in forge. they all have the "x" at the bottom

[thorny crater]

this is my t3..even on one of my t2 i put them in the same place:
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

i dont care about 100% scanners i do 80%+ only

also you can see some feed back from me on my other land plots

[toxic elm]

Does 2 resource extractors at the same level. One of a Tier 1 plot and one on a Tier 3 plot extract the same amount in the same time ?
Lets say crypton and all other things on the plots are the same.
Or does Tier 3 get a boost ?

[radiant sky]

There's a production boost.

• T1 = 0%
• T2 = 33%
• T3 = 100%
• T4 = 300%

[toxic elm]

So if tier 1 produce 2 then tier 3 produce 4, given all other is the same.
Thanks

[terse remnant]

Hi, I've had a tier 1 land in illuvium zero for a long time. From the beginning I got a daily quest called "extract coal from a carbon site" but my land doesn't have any coal to extract. I've had that quest there for months without changing. What can I do? Has anyone been able to solve this problem?

[little moon]

Create another passport account with a different email id. Transfer the BPs from the current account to this new account and transfer them back. Then you can see those BPs in forge.

[thorny crater]

😬

im web 2 and i hate doing that lol

thanks tho. They can stay broken for now haha

[quaint prism]

Do Bio-data and Blueprints share storage? (And Facts do not take up space)?

[thorny crater]

biodata/bp yes, facts take up nothing

[pallid patrol]

Was there a fix to plants spawning before you can palce a building?

[thorny crater]

nope there is a "plant queue"

i put in a ticket asking if the plant queue does not work until the plot is not loading anymore, but please put in another one. its annoying

[west hare]

does it eventually clear if you keep cleaing them?

[thorny crater]

yes

but how many will popo up? i have no clue. took me two days one time

I was not waiting excatly 5 or 1 min each time...though so im sure its not that bad in number of days

[lean bison]

Any info about season1 point results?

[versed warren]

Can I improve?

[thorny crater]

npe does not seem like it

[tardy falcon]

So I’m still unclear… will we be able to play mega city as one big plot?

Or do we switch from plot to plot?

[verbal igloo]

Switch from plot to plot, at least initially.
A single big plot would be too heavy for the mobile platforms. We are researching other ways to do it as well but not for the first version

[lean bison]

Lol

[tardy falcon]

Ahh okay
How will we move buildings from one plot to another? Will there be a button that says ‘move to other plot’ or something?

[gritty wave]

probably just like it is now

[tardy falcon]

But if we have to switch from plot to plot… regular moving doesn’t work

There will have to be a different ui for MC functions

[gritty wave]

yeah, I see waht you mean..like moving a building

[tardy falcon]

Yep

[radiant sky]

never heared about such a feature

[tardy falcon]

Would be ridiculous if we aren’t able to move from plot to plot…. Supposed to be one big city bro

[radiant sky]

the name says it, but the features and how they tried to implement it always said it's 4 plots somehow connected to each other.

[tardy falcon]

Hmm… well I sure think a mega city should mean all plots connected as one big city… and eventually viewable all together

Otherwise it’s more of a semi-city

[pearl marten]

It was always my understanding too that it will act like a single big plot

[radiant sky]

okay... maybe i was wrong 😄

[rotund forum]

Yeah, the showcases with Andrew Wall (is he still on the team? Haven’t seen any content in ages) quite specifically said how megacities would work. What I read here today is … different.

[gritty wave]

he is no longer with us

[rotund forum]

The idea back then was create one big wallpaper 400% and 900% pixels. I see how this could be challenging for some mobiles. Laptop should be fine though

[gritty wave]

and anything longer than this week can be disregarded for info lol

[rotund forum]

I had to look him up, you made it sound if he was dead. 😅 Glad that is not the case.

[spring void]

Is there a blueprint guide? I found my first blueprint for a axon plating (armor) stage 1. Does that mean I should no longer research armor for that biohazard or does finding stage 1 now unlock stage 2 and 3 etc?

[rotund forum]

Still not sure about the stages but you can continue to research armor as there are several

[gritty wave]

If they leave us they are as good as dead to us 😉
Actual work places are like this too...always a wierd thing

[spring void]

For the same biodata I can find multiple different armor blueprints? Will the game stop us from researching a biodata if we found all the blueprints of either armor or drone skin?

[little moon]

WTF! I have been kicked out in the middle saying session expired....haven't 3 times in the last 5 minutes

I am still working on my land how the hell can session expire

I am not afk

have to redo the same stuff over and over again

[noble willow]

known bug mate

[little moon]

never experienced that earlier

looks like just started about an hour ago

[lethal lichen]

Anyone selling a land at 100 dollars?

[manic ginkgo]

When was the last update?

Just wondering, cause here is my problem

I have been a land owner for quite some time.

I have 2 tier 2 lands and a tier 1 land...

I haven't been able to access my tier 2 lands

Since the update

This is my new reality

I tried to get aírdrop points, and I try to upgrade my lands.

I staked illuvium, I bought into the 2 year ROI

I call for a vote of no confidence in Kiernan's leadership!

[cloud pecan]

make an IIP

[manic ginkgo]

Let's vote

Fail

Where do we get our money back?

Will the captain go down with the ship?

I just feel that land owners need a voice

And the developers suck!

Get shit fixed!

This dream you call illium, what is it!

What is your dream for Illuvium?

Every day I wake up and see this:

Is this what we all see? A plot of land frozen in time

One which we can never harvest?

No

Our lands were nerfed

Fuel price has dropped drastically on each fuel type

Nobody knows how to sell fuel at a good price

Do you trust in thee: Kieran Warwick?

A ledger, maybe

How much do the developers get paid?

How much do you get paid?

Pennies?

[tardy falcon]

I feel u. My plot was stuck for two weeks in the beginning. Just keep pinging rich and Theo and submitting reports… venting is fine but also try to communicate with the people that can help.

[manic ginkgo]

1my ducking plot has been stuck since the last update

U feel me now?

My tier 2 plots are stuck

Feel me now?

How much do CEO 's get paid?

Not as much as you and i

Loading Plot....

I tried to load my two tier plots again!

Maps were messed up

My plot is twisted

Upside down, no

Reflected

No reflection? No mirror images?

My nft was turned around

Mirrored, or reflected

[celest wagon]

I am shocked to see the prices of land so low, T2 $400

[manic ginkgo]

I can remember a time not so lo g ago, a tier 2 costs 1300

[celest wagon]

for 2 years the prices resisted then finally the release of the game direction hell

[celest wagon]

t2 remember 1500$ - 2000$

[manic ginkgo]

A t2 land sells for a lot less than I paid for

A t1 land sells for less than I paid for

Let the chips fall where they may!

Good luck my friends, I'm out

[celest wagon]

it makes me so sad Aaron &Kieraan find us a solution 🙏

[manic ginkgo]

I wish you the best my friends

[swift gull]

Ok bye, see you tm as usual

[celest wagon]

I play Russian roulette

[manic ginkgo]

Best of luck to you too, beep, beep,.

Beep beep

[manic ginkgo]

Let's cut the balls off this project, hey guys?

[mortal bough]

This is why the fuel price is crap. If we were buying fuel instead of these coins, there would be more demand.

[broken roost]

count me in. No more fuel sells?

[mortal bough]

How much money do you think this is making them, then land owners on top of spending all this money on these coins to improve there assests, the damn land marketplace does not feature any of the improvements to the land, so you lose the value of improvement plus the workers purchased.

No land owner is making real money like this off there land.

The real money is being made on these coins

[manic ginkgo]

....how do you feel about this every king day?

Glad?

Happy?

Satisfied?

Or empty?

Empty that you can't believe in rainbows?

Or empty that you can never tryst again,

Empty that you can newr trust someone who promises a 2 year roi

Will u benefit from megacites?

[tardy falcon]

wow heavy mood in here tonight

[manic ginkgo]

Who benefits?

[mortal mural]

Maybe ping someone who can help?

[manic ginkgo]

Help this!

[mortal mural]

No even free plot loads?

Stop spamming is not helpful

[manic ginkgo]

Not helpful is not being able to play my tier two lands

[mortal bough]

Would also like to know how I can monetize these reward points?

[manic ginkgo]

I will post this is many times till you get the message , or I will call for a vote of no confidence in your leadership

[manic ginkgo]

Price is dropping

[mortal bough]

How do we cash in on reward points?

[manic ginkgo]

That's another conversation, msg me

[mortal mural]

This not about that. This about you not being able do deal with problems like an adult. Spamming in this chat is not helping you. Just saying.

You either ping someone who can help and go through several steps to solve your problem or if no one can help you then you can always decide for something else

Spamming like a 10 year old is not helping you at all.

[manic ginkgo]

Good luck to all

[mortal mural]

Good luck

[weary swift]

My alluvium zero not loading

[manic ginkgo]

Would you be mad if you couldn't play 2 of your tier 2 lands?

[weary swift]

What is going on with the game not loading

[manic ginkgo]

OR bout how you can't complete your megacities?

Megacities unite

Let's make land cheap so we can all buy megacities!

Lower fuel costs!

Nerf landholders!

Here's the real reality

Scam

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[manic ginkgo]

Scam brothers

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[manic ginkgo]

Illuvium is a scam

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[manic ginkgo]

Brought to you by Kiernan warwick........ a scam

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[manic ginkgo]

I was played, and you were too, the illuvium dream

Buy land, and make a 2 year ROI

2 year ROI, IS WHAT I WAS PROMISED

75% nerf is all I got

Then nerfed again

[vivid cipher]

Relax for a little bit before continuing with your spammy accusations.

[manic ginkgo]

A never ending series of nerfs

How much do you get paid jessie?

[inland shore]

To be fair at this rate nobody is getting ROI. We can’t even earn enough to sustain gameplay. I earn barely enough to keep scanners and research going daily

[manic ginkgo]

A lot more than me

[vivid cipher]

I’m definitely not gonna talk about that.

What device do you play on? What exactly is not loading?

[manic ginkgo]

Well I have a few questions

I thought you were transparent about all things illuvium

[vivid cipher]

I’d always thought that would be the choice that most of us would have to make. Bps or fuel

[manic ginkgo]

Transparency is a good thing

[vivid cipher]

If you’d like to ask please do. But keep your toxicity lower

[manic ginkgo]

This is my situation, how much do you get paid?

[next juniper]

At least try to have some constructive criticism. Crying and throwing accusations over an investment isn’t going to get you anywhere.

[nimble lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-de-niro-taxi-driver-applause-movie-clapping-gif-3556393

[manic ginkgo]

We all want to know:

[vivid cipher]

I tried to come up with some ideas for you. But instead you are asking about things that I won’t be discussing with you.

What device?

[manic ginkgo]

I just want to know when I can play again

[vivid cipher]

How long ahead this been an issue?

[manic ginkgo]

Since the last update

[vivid cipher]

Have you transferred the land to different wallets to see if that could fix it?

[vivid cipher]

When was that? Days hours weeks?

[manic ginkgo]

I haven't done shit wrong

[vivid cipher]

That’s not what I said.

[manic ginkgo]

I just want to play illuvium zero

Thus is what I get every day

[vivid cipher]

What’s the address your land is on?

[manic ginkgo]

I am missing out on airdrop points and missions

[next juniper]

Did you transfer the land into immutable evzkm? Your land just seems stuck. Should be a simple fix. Transferring it to another wallet should fix it. Then you can maybe send it back into the same wallet if you want.

[vivid cipher]

Exactly what I’m attempting to suggest. (Not the zkevm part)

[manic ginkgo]

It's all my fault.

[vivid cipher]

Could be a simple solution if you attempt a few possible fixes.

[vivid cipher]

That’s not what I said. Could easily be the wallet is wonky. Or imx or any number of things.

[manic ginkgo]

I have been with illuvium since the beginning, it's all my fault

My fault

My fault

[vivid cipher]

Alright. I’m gonna go help other people now. Sorry it’s such a hassle.

[manic ginkgo]

My fault that I believed

[next juniper]

Crypto gaming is still very experimental. It has many things that can get bugged. It is just a risk we all take for being early adopters. If you’re stressing too much, maybe you should not be in this imo. Not good for your health.

[manic ginkgo]

I hope they get better help than I did

I ain't got nothing else to lose:

[signal dew]

Just got this

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/kfc-fried-chicken-kentucky-fried-chicken-food-yummy-gif-17870467

[lyric hamlet]

I like @manic ginkgo SuperDave. We need more people like him to speak up about this game scamming us

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[lyric hamlet]

This is ridiculous. The least they can do is remove the ability to buy fuel with credits

Like wtf. What's the fkn point of the land then

I predict lawsuits in the future

[vivid cipher]

I don’t understand what you mean. How do people do that?

[tardy falcon]

Bros... let's not lose sanity. The reason I didn't lose my mind to all things illuvium is that I let go of expectation... it can go to zero and IDGAF or it can moon and ok... cool. That way life is not affected. Just hodl and be ignorantly blissful XD

But I do think if the game survives then it has a lot of amazing upside long term. Things just a lil rough right now yk.

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-bruce-lee-water-bruce-lee-water-cup-bottle-teacup-gif-9536170697992072774

[foggy sage]

You put fuel into a cup it becomes the nerf.

[empty path]

I wanna give @manic ginkgo a hug

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-15819456627234943636

[viscid remnant]

are all blueprints unique or are they just the same thing? I feel like there is no way there are 85k unique blueprints right?

[vivid cipher]

Not unique

[viscid remnant]

when did that change? Wasn't it initally going to be unique and the holder could choose how many to mint and what price?

[vivid cipher]

I never remember that they would have been unique. Rare but certainly able to have duplicates.

[vivid cipher]

The holders will still the only ones able to mint that skinned item and can then list them for the price of their choosing.

The initial talk was about weapons too. But now that’s not happening. So there’s way fewer blueprints.

I don’t actually know the exact number of possible blueprints

[viscid remnant]

Oh interesting, I have a very vivid memory of them being like skins in a game where you "own" that skin and can choose how many or few to make. Like I really was confident haha

[vivid cipher]

The blueprint is the RECIPE for making the skinned item.

You’d still need to supply the resources to make it each time