🎮〕illuvium-zero

[mortal smelt]

immutascan

[spring jetty]

how long does it usually take

[mortal smelt]

no clue but going from L2 to L1 takes a min

[mortal bough]

I do enjoy building my plots, but I bought the land to cover fuel costs to also play overworld. So me and my son could play with the fuel havested. That is the principal idea I am referring to. Only after I bought the land under this premise did I find out it was not true. You are assuming this about money to me, this is more about feeling lied to and tricked.

[junior hollow]

screenshot?

it's either gonna be crypton/green, solon/yellow, or hyperion/purple. you need a quantam fabricant to put an extractor on that site

[quiet hare]

I cant play illuvium zero if I have a vpn?

[digital cloud]

that's probably the problem right there... making a good game as the priority benefits long-term investors ROI in a much more healthy and sustainable way than to create these elaborate crypto economic systems, while assuming it would make illuvium special enough for tons of gamers to flock in. Does the team understand the gamer demographic at all?

If you're in it for the crypto, buying/selling and NFTs, you're probably in the web3 camp looking for a payout. If you're in it for the gameplay and fun, you're a gamer who will hopefully pay for fuel and spend money for said gameplay and fun. The part that's interesting is Illuvium is *supposed *to cater to both.

Well, we've spent way more time than needed catering to web3 we forgot all about the actual game experience. Now the team has been going around trying to do partnerships and promote themselves expecting gamers to flock in? Please... that's just arrogant and naive

[tardy falcon]

My kids are avid gamers… they no like illuvium.

Illuvium is an acquired taste 🤪

[foggy bison]

I love your T1 updates because your one natural fuel is Solon the same as mine. So I am always interested in how you were able to feed enough Solon into your extractors to build up enough Crypton for Quantum Fabricant IV and Hyperion for Nexus IX. I'm also going to need more Carbon and Silicon storage than what I've got now. Solon Dredge is still Level III, so I have quite a ways to go. Keep posting pics!

[true rampart]

whats your current fuel outper per day ?

[digital cloud]

In terms of what's realistically possible in the shortest timespan, Arena would probably be the one as it's smaller scale and less work in designing new maps and such. However, I think they have to do better than being another auto-battler. I really like how Palworld decided to handle Arena content and that's really the direction Illuvium should have gone. Audiences love watching skill expression from gamers, and it's more of a thrill being the one to pull off clutch plays. That's where the eyes are in the competitive scene and that's what Illuvium needs to create. Arena needs to be a place that allows for high-level skill expression along with strategic gameplay. Just see how LoL, Fortnite and Valorant are still consistently holding the top spots in viewership even after so many years

[tardy falcon]

OW multiplayer mode where 10 people drop in and fight each other as they all go after illuvials on the map… lower cost entry… less illuvials spawned but better drop rates. You keep what u catch… but if u get killed you’re out. Last man standing gets top leaderboard rank for the match and a loot box. That would be fun.

[digital cloud]

that is the sad reality unfortunately... that just basically means short-sighted gains are worth more to these people than long-term legacy and real disruption in the gaming industry, which is what they've been selling us from day 1

[void raft]

Hi guys, do we have somewhere documented cost of buildings after the last patch? I need to know costs of VIII and IX buildings so I can plan my fuel for them

[manic ginkgo]

if someone like Kieran tells you there is a 2 year ROI, do you believe them?

2 year ROI

[minor hazel]

Nexus 9: 3.4m C/1.7m S 160Hyp
Quant 6: 2.8mC/ 5.2m S 160 Cry
Eng 8: 1.2m S/ 2.3m H 80 Sol
Eng 9: 2.3m S/4.7m H 160 Sol
storage 8: 1.8m/80&80 for each type
storage 9: 3.5m/200&200 for each type

all I've got on current display

[manic ginkgo]

I am pretty sure i heard that somewhere, was i wrong?

only to be nerfed

[void raft]

what about fuel extractors, do you know the cost of max lvl?

[manic ginkgo]

uncomfortabele converstations ahead

[minor hazel]

2.1m/4.4m 100 fuel to 6 for each
1.1m/2.2m 50 fuel to 5th for each

[void raft]

only 100 fuel? I thought it was 150, 🤔

[manic ginkgo]

why do loyal land owners and illuvium stakers need to pay the price?

there are cheaters stealing airdrop points, create multiple accounts, shoot rocks, gain airdrop points

[minor hazel]

that's what my screen shows, can't S/S in here
edit: edited the first reply with a few more stats I found on my f2p

[manic ginkgo]

what is the goal of nerfing landowners profits?

is it so that we can all lose money or is it that we can all make money?

[void raft]

thanks, I will need to think about the max lvls a bit more 😄 and hopefully get there in a few days

[hearty cradle]

u mean break even?
really depends on demand
lets just hope other people believe that

[manic ginkgo]

i thought there was a high and low fuels price limits

[hearty cradle]

we have a top ceiling, but no bottom floor.

[manic ginkgo]

so , fuel can bottom out while others make money

what is the new expected roi?

10 years

15 yeara?

i heard Kieran once say the ROI is 2 years

that's why i bought in

was i fooled?

were we all fooled?

[digital cloud]

Seems like they grossly overestimated a lot of things and didn't foresee demand to be so low, hence the emergency nerf. ROI predictions are probably based on assuming ideal conditions so I wouldn't count on taking their exact word on it.

[manic ginkgo]

considering this , what would you do nest?

[digital cloud]

Well, personally I decided to get vocal about things and submitted feedback to support... Then started talking on discord and now working up to rank 5 to start contributing in feedback forums. Best I can do for now

Other than that it's a bunch of wait and see... Hoping and praying

[manic ginkgo]

what are your proposals or ideas for a better Illuvium Landowner society where we dont get nerfed again?

the developers can get nerfed again before i will do again!

[digital cloud]

My take is that the team failed in putting together a proper fuel sink and bet too heavily on a non-existent player base to buy fuel JUST for grinding runs in OW thinking that it will be fun when it's not.

The best way for Illuvium to move forward is to focus on building that fuel sink that isn't tied to the worth of Illuvials. Most people will gauge runs being worth it or not on the return for fuel spent, which is a terrible idea as the only fuel sink because eventually the marketplace will get saturated with the most common Illuvials and you're eventually just doing runs as a bet you'll land an Illuvial worth selling.

[manic ginkgo]

and , landowners will have to pay the price

can kiernan or arron not sacrafice their own lands?

[exotic scroll]

Im not sure why they promote to have land owner to begin with but not have free market, because they can nerf/buff the land at their will.

They can just sell the fuel themself.

[digital cloud]

Yes, so that means they need to implement a fuel sink that is tied to content... I think the easiest form is in PvP combat, where you use fuel to pay for certain advantages in taking over territories or nodes that give you other advantages like training Illuvials or giving capture power buffs. I want to push for leaning on faction battles or something like that

[manic ginkgo]

lets talk about a free market in the illuvium world

do we all believe in a free market economy in the illuvium world?

[digital cloud]

Whatever they decide to do, they have to find way more uses for fuel

[manic ginkgo]

is whatever you decide to do whatever we decide to do?

[digital cloud]

I think in an ideal world, yes, a free market would be great. In the way they've set up their economy, I think it'll be a long way before we see a truly free market

[exotic scroll]

Well if we have land owner it should be free market, but if we dont have land owner its okay if fuel is fixed.
And in actually we have system of land owner.

Because if its not free market the land owner will always get nerfed/buffed depends on situation.

And the feel of that is not that great experience.

[manic ginkgo]

just asking, who will get nerfed next?

[digital cloud]

Depends if the ideas have enough merit... I base my ideas on other games similar to the genre that have long track records of working well in the web2 world and being highly acclaimed

[manic ginkgo]

are we all on the same page or what?

[hearty cradle]

first lessons in crypto.
DYOR
dnt trust, verify

[manic ginkgo]

are developers willing go get nerfed as much as landowners or stakers?

[hearty cradle]

if u base your investment decision on promises, thats on u

[manic ginkgo]

discuss amongst yourselves

[digital cloud]

For the most part I would assume so. I want to believe we all got in to see some level of success from Illuvium... It's just not looking great right now

[manic ginkgo]

cause , as a landowner, i am not willing to get nerfed again!

[exotic scroll]

So im thinking if after all land owner full upgrade the land and the demands still not there, the price of fuel go down again are they gonna nerf it again?

[sullen quiver]

What i can do After finding blueprints?

[hearty cradle]

demand has to improve

theres no other way

[digital cloud]

I feel you on that. I don't want to either. But like what was just mentioned, they need more uses for fuel tied to great content and gameplay

[manic ginkgo]

how long should we have to wait before the supply meets the demand?

[hearty cradle]

demand boils down to illuvials

[manic ginkgo]

rainbows of gold and champagne supernovas in the sky

[hearty cradle]

well i see that marketing has increased
Arena leaderboard/tournament coming

[digital cloud]

That's up to you. You see what's going on, we all know things need to improve. It just depends on how much faith you have in the team and where your limit is

[manic ginkgo]

will kiernan and aaron sacrifice their 2 year ROI?

i have plenty of supply, yet there is no demand like promised

who has no fuel to sell?

who is tired of the low sale prices for fuel?

[vocal pasture]

That is true for bitcoin. Not crypto. Much of crypto you have to trust like in regular companies.
Illuvium is the same

[digital cloud]

Yep... That's the problem right now and the team needs to get their ass in gear to give players a stronger use case for fuel... It's just not going to cut it if they keep depending on the current systems... It's basically only whales spending right now

[sudden zinc]

Which fuel can be sold as land owner and where? Did not start to sell anything so far..🤗

[exotic scroll]

Need to see leviathan gauntlet first and how the matchmaking works, not even doing gauntlet right now because need to use discord just for playing with player.

[manic ginkgo]

who are the Whales?

[hearty cradle]

its the other way around

alts are alts

afaik btc has no counterparty risk

[manic ginkgo]

airdrop points are being stolen from people with multiple accounts

[vocal pasture]

Exactly. What I was saying is that the adage “don’t trust, verify” is only valid for bitcoin because of its network decentralization Much of crypto, or alts, is centralized. In that, you have to trust the controlling or issuing entities. Illuvium is such a thing.

[manic ginkgo]

is this not true?

i play for airdrop points in illuvium zero

to know that cheaters have an adbantage

advantage

devastates me

[vocal pasture]

So in illuvium there is no way to “verify” and DYOR if there is a team behind that can modify the premises and assumptions.
You have to trust the team, and that is a big part of the DYOR thing.

[manic ginkgo]

my airdrop points are being stolen

and so are yours

it's like a big deal

airdrop points are being stolen from bots and theives

[digital cloud]

That's why I'm not playing in this mess... Those "incentives" are based on a web3 investor perspective.... That's not going to increase player base from the gamer demographic

They need content, not airdrop incentives

[manic ginkgo]

they need airdrop incentives that draw the players in and not to be stolen

we may need to have to form a landowners union

[digital cloud]

But that would mean the main motivation for you to play is for airdrops and not really for the game itself

[manic ginkgo]

how much are you willing to give to advance airdrops?

[digital cloud]

Nothing

A push for airdrops is just a bandage solution for a sinking ship... It's not sustainable

[manic ginkgo]

how much are you willing to sacrifice as a landowner?

how much are you willing to sacrifice as a developer?

how much are you willing to sacrifice as a player?

how much are you willing to sacrifice as a human?

[digital cloud]

I dunno man, I'm not looking at this like a sacrifice or anything... I just want to see Illuvium become something worth playing in spite of whatever carrots get dangled in front of me

[sharp elk]

Well zero chat took a weird turn.

[solid iris]

A game needs sacrifices? Come on...

[hearty cradle]

our treasury is public
the team is doxxed
if ur savvy u can check the game client

[digital cloud]

Friday nights the best for weird turns

[hearty cradle]

fuel revenue is public

illuvials volume

[manic ginkgo]

just asking questions.. need some answers, and i think you do too

[hearty cradle]

you can analyse the chart too

u can check each of the illuvials owners wallets too if u want

[vocal pasture]

Yes, that’s part of the reasons why I’m invested and trust the project.
But at any time things could change. Lands could be rendered useless (zero fuel production), illuvials could be spawn at infinite, etc.
My point is that TRUST is are the center, there is no way to assure that one makes its due diligence and that its.
It’s crypto but works like any company.

[hearty cradle]

then u decide if u believe the "2 years break even" or not

[manic ginkgo]

i would not be asking questions if i did not feel the need to ask why landowners need to be fucked in the ass by 75%

[vocal pasture]

No one can assure that. Not even in a regular company.

[hearty cradle]

well its from kieran

the ceo

recorded

[manic ginkgo]

then why promise a 2 year ROI?

[vocal pasture]

It should not been said than. No one can promise that.

[hearty cradle]

and one time he gave his estimation of token price too

[manic ginkgo]

Keran can promise that

[vocal pasture]

No he cannot. No one can.

[hearty cradle]

well im not a lawyer or know security law

[manic ginkgo]

Kieran can promise a 2 year ROI

[vocal pasture]

Well…he “can” but he shouldn’t. Or a least not in a credible way

[hearty cradle]

i personally wont do that tho

NFA

[vocal pasture]

How can someone promise some “roi”? Millions of factors can influence that

[manic ginkgo]

did ya'll not hear that?

[vocal pasture]

Biden gets us to a nuclear war..,where that roi going? There is no way to assure that

We can estimate that, or accept that at face value but….its not vinculative info, it cannot be

So it shouldn’t be promised by someone responsible tbh…but I get that could be his intention or objective, those 2 year roi

Even to have a roi depends on the price of the asset, assuming it stays the same

[manic ginkgo]

i am talking about Kiernan, not biden

[vocal pasture]

Do you think Kieran has power to assure any roi on a project?

Or anyone for that matter?

[manic ginkgo]

he said he would, should we not believe otherwise?

[vocal pasture]

We should believe that is his intention, his goal. Not a stated fact that will surely happen.

[manic ginkgo]

not very reassuring

[vocal pasture]

How can anyone assure you of a specific roi?

That’s the holy grail of investing

[manic ginkgo]

maybe he should lower his hype

[hearty cradle]

we need hype

web3 is about hype and fud

[vocal pasture]

It’s a promise, intention. The idea behind a company CEO, so it must be taken as that.

[manic ginkgo]

hype without deliveance is nothing

[vocal pasture]

Hype and fud are just pump an dump things

[high sleet]

I am not sure id say he promised a 2 year ROI. But rather that is the teams goal

[vocal pasture]

Exactly

[manic ginkgo]

shall we look at the amas?

[boreal bay]

@cerulean steppe add me as a friend, I have a proposition.

[vocal pasture]

I can build a car company and say it will be the biggest ever. That is my goal. I cannot be chased and linched because it’s not as big as Tesla lol

[high sleet]

Welcome to prove me wrong. I have a terrible memory hahaha

But taking anyone's words verbatim is dishonest either way

[hearty cradle]

u havent heard that redbull lost $13m lawsuit for "redbull gives you wings"?

[vocal pasture]

That’s a stupid lawsuit then

[high sleet]

Yes I think U can through layerswap but please be careful

[vocal pasture]

Plenty of them lol

[high sleet]

That was the funniest thing ever

That's why it's wiiiiingggsss

[unreal oak]

ok thanks

[manic ginkgo]

do you believe the next big announcement that Kiernan or Arron announce?

[hearty cradle]

not really, its more common for countries to ban "promises" from packaging and ads

[vocal pasture]

And for the record, we still don’t know what will be the roi in 2 years 🙂 lot of things will happen.

Could be a great ROI could be crap ROI…who knows. Time will tell

[hearty cradle]

thats why these days u have so many disclosures

[manic ginkgo]

being a landowner, my 2 year ROI has gone to where?

[digital cloud]

There's always another big announcement around the corner... Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

[vocal pasture]

You don’t know. Only one month has passed

[hearty cradle]

even burger king was sued, thats why food chain writes *this is an illustration products may not be the same or something

[high sleet]

ROI is so arbitrary anyways. I might buy it from the land sale for $300. Then someone might buy it on the illuvidex for $450

Our ROI is wildly different

[vocal pasture]

If I sell my t4 land for 3eth today I will have like 150% roi or something

[manic ginkgo]

so, kiernans promise is arbitrary too?

[terse rain]

2 more years ROI, 4 years total 🥲

[vocal pasture]

Could be more detailed but…it was an intention, an objective.

[manic ginkgo]

when will the nerf us again?

[hearty cradle]

i hope it wont happen again

*this is not a promise

[manic ginkgo]

nerf

nerf

[digital cloud]

I try not to rely too heavily on anyone's words. There's usually some level of bias in there somewhere

[manic ginkgo]

what or who will say they will not fuerf us again?

[high sleet]

It certainly made the game harder to play

[hearty cradle]

somehow my F2P plot is unaffected?

[manic ginkgo]

fuel nerf destorys landowners

[hearty cradle]

but yea the nerf not only stifle progression it reduced the purchasing power of landowners in ow

[manic ginkgo]

nerf yourselves first

[hearty cradle]

we can write an IIP to increase fuel production tho

[vocal pasture]

In a years time fuel could be sold at 0.1 cents per unit who knows. And everyone would be cheering.
Still soon, let’s focus on helping create a good game and hope the world economy holds and everything might go well

[manic ginkgo]

then dont promise an economy where everybody makes 0.1 cents per fuel

[high sleet]

Maybe we should? By like 50% from where we are at right now. At least

[hearty cradle]

yea small increments

need to talk to perry first tho

[manic ginkgo]

small increment after landowners have suffered a 75% fuel reduction. yall have a lot to pay for

[hearty cradle]

personally, in the future i would want to see daily production matches 1x ow run
T1 = 1 x S1
T2 = 1 x S2
T3 = 1 x S3
T4 = ?

[manic ginkgo]

yall dont want to give up nothing

[high sleet]

Well they are all increments of 3. So T4 would be 3x S3

[manic ginkgo]

landowners are forced to give up something

[hearty cradle]

if the previous decision was bad, doesnt mean we need to make another bad decision

[manic ginkgo]

fuel production

[hearty cradle]

i believe in easing and tightening

not choking

[manic ginkgo]

landowners are being choked by 75%

[hearty cradle]

impossible for me to judge without data

[young nacelle]

Ask the right person.., what can you do at your level to help?

[manic ginkgo]

fuel being nerfed is not a thing..........?

[hearty cradle]

im gonna try when im IMC

its hasnt been easy as ICC in the past

and i tried

so many times

both in public and council chat

[manic ginkgo]

will landowners get an extra buff when things go well

[young nacelle]

that's the challenge I think.
We ask but silence received. 🥲
Because rush to reply will have risk too.
Just follow up again, that's part of responsibility and let users know.
Thanks Jag, keep continue the effort.

I do that all the time at office as mod; summarize, report, follow up and follow up again (after a period)
Sometime I rather use my word to change - help and support the users.
Know our boundaries and do our best 🫡

[manic ginkgo]

a 75 % buff?

or will the developers receive a 75% buff when things go well?

[vocal pasture]

Who knows 🙂

[hearty cradle]

yea i wont give up. the community deserves it

[manic ginkgo]

all i know is that i as a landowner , i have received a nerf of 75%

fuel production

how do you other landowners feel?

[vocal pasture]

I feel the nerf, but I assume there is a point in doing that. And nothing is set in stone, if the game succeds maybe we get a buff.
Let’s be patient and focus on communication - that should be the main goal

[manic ginkgo]

do you think that the creators of illuvium feel the nerf that they have bestowed upon us?

[vocal pasture]

Yes. That know that land owners are pissed but that they are in a tough place of zealing for the game economy as a whole.
I believe their will keep focusing on creating a great game and doing damage control in the time being.
If things start to succeed, lands will also.

There is a saying in my country “in a house with no bread, everyone complains and no one is right” (it rhymes eheheh)

[manic ginkgo]

in a house when someone speaks to loudly, no one is heard!

put your money where your mouth is

[vocal pasture]

😊

[manic ginkgo]

nerf yourselves, not me

[digital cloud]

Rank 5 baby, woo!

[thorny crater]

Doesn’t bother me. We had to much supply and not enough demand. Once demand goes up and supply goes down, I except a boost will come. Like the oil markets in real life.

That said, If we can’t get consumer experience up to bring demand your and my land will be worth nothing.

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/baller-ballin-shoot-basketball-for-gif-4728986

[spiral ravine]

How can be the consumer experience get up?

[thorny crater]

For me I’m a web 2 guy, and this is the only croton game I have played.

As of right now when I come to the zero chat I feel like people just want to farm me for their roi.

That aside,

• multiplier
• raids
• battle lobbies
• chance we go palword style game play
• also I have some ideas about future works

[spiral ravine]

Ok but do the developers have ideas to increase the number of players?

[thorny crater]

Of course.
Land ideas

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Next update with notes on what’s coming.

#📣〕announcements message

We just had a 3rd day gauntlet tournament not last night

#1020759212172775464 is where the team is taking the community ideas.

[hard flume]

Hey guys. I'm looking at buying a Zero land plot (my first) do you guys have any advice on which region/elements and stuff I should be looking for? Are some better than others or all pretty much the same? It will be a tier 1 plot. Thanks ❤️

[digital cloud]

Basically, it's ideal to have one of each element as it saves you time from having to convert. Pick a fuel of your choice. I've seen some people recommend Hyperion for nexus upgrades.

It basically boils down to how fast you want to develop your plot. The less conversions you need to do, the better.

You might want to look for a layout where nodes are grouped closer together to get more efficiency from your power plants but I'd say don't sweat it if you can't. There's always a way to make a plot work, just might take more time

[vocal pasture]

Good advice!

[hard flume]

Thank you Snuggle!

[rugged abyss]

I get what you're saying about having one of each element to save time on conversions, but don’t you think that as you progress, the difference between extracting and converting becomes less significant? I mean, once your facilities are upgraded, both extraction and conversion become more efficient, so the "penalty" for converting isn't as much of a big deal, right?

Plus, if you focus more on optimizing the extraction of the resources you have in abundance and then convert them when needed, couldn't that actually be more efficient in the long run? It seems like trying to avoid conversions altogether might limit flexibility and could even slow down development. What do you think?

[worn mason]

Just downloaded the game any tips or nfts I can buy to help I’ll be jumping in tomorrow night to play for first time, geed is under statement

[vocal pasture]

Extracting is always more efficient. Since T1 don’t have landmarks and only one fuel site, the difference lies in elements.
Maybe will be important to have elements required to extract fuel (Carbon to crypton, hydrogen to Hyperion, silicon to Solon), but apart from that here won’t be much difference

[uneven pulsar]

what is it?

why time is pause?

[grizzled remnant]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1276840641233551371
Idea that give value to play ILZ for OW.
Don't see any downside of this idea.

[leaden egret]

Need more energy to work, update your power stations around it and will be fine

More you upgrade your constructions more they need power to work, power stations are here for that and give you power needed (like electricity at home, try to use your fridge with your iPhone charger, spoiler, it will not work 😂).

[uneven pulsar]

but yerstday everything is worked

[leaden egret]

Maybe your construct something around there that took the energy needed for this one

Any way that’s your problem 🤗

[thorny crater]

It’s a power sign bug that’s being worked on. If you moved a build around others that need power, or built a new building around one that’s in the middle of something. The power will still say it’s full but it is not.

If you upgrade the power stations you’ll be good. Happened to me multiple times

[steady fable]

When selling fuel do we just price at market, or do we need to some how calculate the bonus too?

[thorny crater]

It’s confusing but the bonus is just the difference between the market price and want land owners are selling fuel at.

You can set the price whatever, I would look at the ledger and see what things are going for now

This is what I see as of this morning. Each fuel tends to be a slightly different

[digital cloud]

Solid point. It really depends on how fast you want to get your plot going. Conversion adds an extra step in the process and for getting your land developed, that will cost you some extra time and attention. But you're absolutely right it shouldn't be viewed as a taboo to completely avoid plots that require conversion. It just plays differently and at the end game, it probably won't matter too much especially after everything is upgraded (assuming nothing else changes in later versions)

As I mentioned already, there's always a way to get a plot to work.

[rugged abyss]

I think distribution is key too, especially since I still don’t fully know how the scanners work and how much space they’re going to need. That could play a big role in how we optimize everything.

[junior depot]

Scanners need 2x4 blocks and an additional 5 blocks afterward to maintain 100% scanning efficiency.

[hearty cradle]

do i have to complete the scan to finish this mission?

[uneven pulsar]

)))

nice bug

after refresh

• minus 1 hyperion lathe

[rugged abyss]

And does it make sense to have more than one scanner ? Do they interference each other ?

[junior depot]

If it's close enough, yes, it will lower the percentage. You can have as many as you want, but you need to consider the cost of scanning and whether you'll upgrade the scanner to a higher tier.

[chrome grove]

Does a lower percentage on the scanner effect the chances of finding something?

[empty path]

I would assume so

[chrome grove]

Absolutely love this idea!

[timber glacier]

Yes, you need to collect the results of the scan for it to count

[hearty cradle]

ty

[silver plover]

App not loading up, anyone else having issues?

[cerulean nest]

Probably VPN

[indigo vale]

Me as well not loading on mobile

[regal trout]

Why i receive only half of the money for my fuel sell in the exchange?

[uneven pulsar]

Yes, i am too and i don;t understand why

Rounded Loss

maybe this but what is this and why a lost 40% from eraly price

so I should take 5% and Actually it 2.5%

[regal trout]

so confunsing for nothing. Just make a normal DEX and leave it for it. Why reeinvent the wheel?

[gritty wave]

and wish you could turn them as you want to fit space, not always at that angle!

[gritty wave]

yeah it has to complete, not start in the time period

[cinder fractal]

Where can we see this weekly challenge it looks different from tasks where we are earning XP points

Also the game is not loading anyone else having a problem?

[gritty wave]

under the missions tabs when you pull up your profile

[cinder fractal]

Thanks I will check it once when the game is working again for me

[rotund forum]

that´s a lot of days .... or coins. L4 to L5

[rotund forum]

yeah, if 100% is like a 5% chance of finding biodata then if you have less than 100%, say 80% your chances of finding data also drop to 4%. Sometimes it is impossible to have 100% because elements or fuel sites just happen to be close by, but it is just trying were to best place it to get the highest % possible.

[chrome grove]

Just wondering if it’s better to have 1 at 100%, or 3 at 75%

Guess the same for converters, is it better to have a bunch at 50% side by side, or a few at 120-150%

[cinder fractal]

I'm keeping 3 scanners at 100% don't forget how it cost fuel every time when you scan

More scanners with less efficiency will probably work better than few at 100% but it will also cost you more to run them all

Anyway you can't have more than 5 scanners per plot

[broken roost]

reminder you need 6

just saying because you wont see that unless you click on it and think ''this doesn't work'' like did for like a week😅

[polar cosmos]

Time is money

[rugged abyss]

Yeah, leveling up lands definitely takes time, but that’s part of what gives them intrinsic value. Time isn’t something you can buy, so I’m not planning to sell mine for less than what they’re really worth 😎🤣. Ya… the same here it takes too much

[last tiger]

The 16%?

[indigo vale]

Still having problems loading the game...anyone else?

Ok..when I am using my mobile phone ISP I can load the game but with my WLAN it does not...what is going on ?

[hazy jewel]

Scan for fun or u manage to sell anything ?

[hearty cradle]

i can do it 6 times?

wait what i have to do 6 times?

[empty path]

Even with 3 workers you have to wait so much, can't believe I used to do this with 1 😄

[last tiger]

strange

i think yeah u should but it will take some time for them to respond

[cinder fractal]

Game didn't work for me on the desktop or on my phone I installed it on the laptop and it still doesn't work, anyone else have the same problem?

Everything was fine until a few hours ago

Sure with my seed phrase just give me a minute

[undone dagger]

wheeze

[indigo vale]

There is currently a problem... Read in general

[broken roost]

Yeah I figured that might come as a surprise 😅

[cinder fractal]

Yeah I'm also getting an error when I try to log in with a passport in the browser I guess it's all connected

[cinder grove]

I am also not able to load the plots

[empty path]

Ok who broke IZ?

@whole spear Call in the troops. Cancel holidays, cancel Saturday plans. My game is broken

[whole spear]

Yeah we are monitoring

[empty path]

Less monitoring, more fixing

https://tenor.com/view/get-back-to-work-gif-1126008344771276194

[whole spear]

Monitoring = Fixing

[lyric hamlet]

I cant login to the game. Why?

[sage bough]

Seems to be running very slow. Somebody forgot to feed the server room hamsters.

[foggy bison]

I'm stuck on the Downloading assets screen

[junior hollow]

is the server down, Overworld has login problems too

[cinder fractal]

They finally rugged

Jokes on the side hurry up I have a research to do

[junior hollow]

what kind of research, my man?

[cinder fractal]

The most important research

Biodata research

[junior hollow]

nice!

[junior hollow]

yeh server might be down

[tribal zealot]

imx playing games

[lyric hamlet]

Is there an official announcement regarding this?

[analog magnet]

can you level up on your own if you have your own plot or do you always have to invest yourself?

[undone dagger]

You can level up on a F2P plot to earn Credits

[vocal pasture]

New patch

90% fuel reduction

[cerulean nest]

30

20

Oh whoops, sorry I was cleaning my keyboard

[vocal pasture]

😂

Cat did it

[cerulean nest]

Haha yeah, damn it whiskers 🐈

[blissful comet]

IZ is down. Able to log in but can’t load plots.

[vocal pasture]

Yep…hamster called in a strike

[cinder fractal]

It looks like the last fuel reduction patch worked fine at least we have stable fuel price

Smaller % with stable price is better than, 100%*0

[empty path]

Who broke my game

[sinful jasper]

IZ pc anyone encounter this? how to fix

[low quiver]

yah might be down same for me

[unkempt kettle]

Is mobile down?

[empty path]

Everything is down, check #📣〕announcements

[low quiver]

that seemed like only OW

Well @whole spear just in case they arnt aware

[whole spear]

Yeah

thanks guys

We are actively investigating and fixing

[cinder grove]

A bit disappointing the message from Kieran is only directed to OW while IZ is also not working. A bit disappointing the focus is never on IZ while landowners are investors.

[low quiver]

might be cuz the OW channel brough it up first.. aint that deep lol

[empty path]

Na-ah, I complained right away

[flat steeple]

IZ working fine on my end

[cinder grove]

No not that deep, but striking it never goes towards IZ.

[empty path]

Whut? Unfair advantage

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[digital cloud]

It's working for me now, too

[untold igloo]

The Performance right now is shit, need 2 min for Plot Change 😂

Ah there is announcement i shut up than

[heavy wolf]

hey guys i found my first skin in IZ, what do i need to do to get it on my ranger?

[empty path]

We back baby

[turbid plank]

hi guys what are the "facts" you get after scaning the illuvial thing for ?

[lyric hamlet]

Any official word on why they dropped the fuel production?

[viscid remnant]

Trying to get my converters to 150% right now and having a hard time. It seems upgrading power stations does nothing to add to the efficiency? Is it solely number of them next to it or should it be increasing with higher level as well?

[vestal spear]

You are correct upgrading power station does nothing to help out efficiency. but it does increase the output and sometimes extra output helps when you’re trying to power up a new upgrade

[viscid remnant]

Gotcha, so efficiency is not the indicator of output? I thought efficiency is what determined the output.

[vestal spear]

The output is efficiency and power. Something must be powered up before you can even use it and then the higher the efficiency the more you get out of it.

I was discussing the power output needed to power higher level buildings

[viscid remnant]

gotcha, thank you!

[wide vine]

Anyone else has issues logging into zero on Android?

I dont get the passport login option anymore... Worked fine for two weeks

[cinder fractal]

Yep and it's not only android it's windows also

[cinder fractal]

The more facts you have more likely is to find a blueprint when you do next research for that particular biodata

[turbid plank]

thank you

[still dagger]

IZ missions not working again?

[pallid patrol]

how do we get blueprints off our land to be able to make skins?

[cinder fractal]

We can't do anything with them right now, we are all waiting

[strong pewter]

Halp

[quaint prism]

Did you try restarting the game? It gets stuck sometimes. For me typically when I'm switching between apps on Android

[polar cosmos]

nice clean land

[timber sentinel]

Ah, the new update

[little moon]

If you have the 15 BPs from Alpha you can. But not from the current beta

[gritty wave]

what are those selling for now...pennies? 😉

[little moon]

yeah 😢

[gritty wave]

yeah we sorta new it at the time, due to supply, but shocking how low they have went

I hope the new ones we make do much better

[little moon]

yeah, hope so

[pallid patrol]

i have them but i cant see them

yeah everything is in

[mint furnace]

zero working now?

[little moon]

I too had that problem.

• Create another passport account with an alternate email id

• Transfer all the BPs from the current passport to this new passport

• Then transfer them back again to the original passport

You will see them then in OW

[pallid patrol]

will try this. ty.

[mortal smelt]

FYI alpha blueprints will only appear in OW and not in Zero, had the same question for the longest only to find out myself.

[tribal blaze]

oh boy its been quite the saga. Long story short, its that demand was not as high as they though it would be, and fuel prices were dropping fast. And it was going to get worse as more lands at t2 and t3 were going to start producing more fuel as they reached higher nexus levels, so they nerfed fuel output across the board to reduce the supply to keep the price of fuel up. THey dropped upgrade costs too, but not quite as much as they cut production

since that happened, there has been an insane amount of discussion about the topic, and lots of ideas and feedback about how to improve the fuel economy overall. Feel free to check out all the ideas in the feedback/ideas threads

[rotund forum]

I know they are not available yet (except for the already minted ones from the closed beta), but if you find a blueprint, can you sell it and find that same one again later on?

I know there is a difficulty curve, but theoretically, can you re-find it?

[exotic yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/sweet-dreams-good-night-gif-20197128

[rotund forum]

I think the fast mayority will have the same fate. The T4 or 5 might get some more bucks. But I think most of the lower ones are cents. Maybe if you collect them all, and they are no longer available, in a few years your entire collection could be worth a nice amount if we make it that far.

[thin dirge]

Is there a way to turn off plant spawn? Every time I move or want to replace a building I have to remove like 6 plants

[grand silo]

I was literally coming in to say this, attempting to move buildings and these plants keep respawning is frustrating

thanks scammer

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

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Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

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[thin dirge]

Hahah yeh so dam annoying

[gritty wave]

love it if we could create a garden space and that is the only place they spawn...put that in the idea channel someone 😉

[spare veldt]

You can. Just fill up your entire land with paths and leave an open area for plants

[gritty wave]

but if you move something or want something else they keep reappearing...and better to just have a little quadrant without all the path stuff..though it can look sort of empire strikes back cool

[spare veldt]

If you covered every open space with path then you won’t have any plants. When you want to move something, just remove the path in the space you want to move to. It’s not ideal and looks bad imo but it does accomplish the task in the interim

[prisma swift]

Hello. I moved my land over to my metamask wallet a couple weeks ago following the procedures announced. Everything is fine, but today it prompt me to log into my passport and it did not find my land.

[barren urchin]

May I know when the renting will start? I was under the impression that there would be renting for landscaping, which is why I bought one. However, no one has mentioned it.

[hearty cradle]

need to check with polemos

[hexed abyss]

Will say this again. It's not fair that Zero players have to compete with each other(lower fuel sale price ) while OW players buy at a set price + get bonus/free fuel based on the Zero players loss. Is this a fair market? Why not set the Sell price also, & adjust both buy/sell based on market demand, like an normal exchange?

[tardy falcon]

Ow players don't really buy at a set price. If you understand the mechanics of the fuel exchange then you can calculate what price fuel is currently selling for and what the bonus will be and buy accordingly. Thus, you pay whatever current market value is. Match that up with your target price then pull the trigger.

I personally like the 'semi-free' market... being able to sell fuel at whatever price is a good thing. Keeps things dynamic and interesting. If fuel was just set across the board Idk if I would ever buy fuel. And this is coming from a landowner and OW player.

[timber sapphire]

Was there an update? I suddenly need to log in with passport again

[vivid cipher]

You simply need to sometimes

[timber sapphire]

I'm on hotel wifi, I won't get hacked?👀

[vivid cipher]

Hmm seems unlikely. But I mean if someone is reading your encrypted email before you do then I guess it’s possible. But once you use your passport code from your email they can’t use it again.

[burnt tiger]

Are we limited to a maximum 12 fuel converters? Or is that linked to your Nexus level?

[wide vine]

Cant login anymore on phoneeeee why :(((((

Any news regarding this?

[vivid cipher]

Not that I’ve seen. When did you last log in?

[hexed abyss]

ok, didn't know that. but when I look at illuvidex market-place it seems to be set price to purchase. currently to buy crypton is $0.0072. but when I go to Sell it says the average is $0.0035

[hearty cradle]

for security concern, i would not use public wifi.
if u must, dnt key in the password or do it only when ur tethering to your own device

like yur mobile phone or portable hotspot

Nfa

[vivid cipher]

Yeah. There’s definitely some added risk there.

[woven saffron]

So what is Roi for t1 land currently ? Assuming it was bought with first listing

[wide vine]

Played it for two weeks with no problems . Now i dont get the passport login anymore :x

[vivid cipher]

Android?

[slate sandal]

gm

[empty path]

I’m in the lobby waiting, do it.

Just checked, works fine on iOS

[hearty cradle]

using kieran's AMA and the fuel production nerf, the break even maybe 8 years

[untold igloo]

T1 is shit right now, dont play it anymore till they fix something about the production. T2 is nja but you See some progress i Play right now just my T2s and my t3

T1s are anyway in free fall, about to go under 200$ by Plot end of next week.

[ionic wharf]

I have T2 and I will only start to think of selling any fuel when I reach nexus 9 and fuel extractors lvl 6, till now it's unthinkable to even consider selling any fuel.😔

[untold igloo]

I Have allready nexus 9 and Lvl 6 extr and to think about selling is like a dream...

[ionic wharf]

You just crushed my dreams 😄

[untold igloo]

Haha Sorry Man 🙈

[turbid plank]

hi guys how can i use this ?

[untold igloo]

You can not at the moment Plexys

[ionic wharf]

But when everything is at max for my T2 I think I will be able to get 150 fuel per day, and then it's just a matter of choice to which fuel to convert to.

[untold igloo]

Jeah thats the only Thing. But From what wee got promised to now for US Landholders

[turbid plank]

ah ok, you have an idea of when ? is it worth spending fuel for those or id rather not ?whts your opinion ?

[untold igloo]

Uhh Jesus there are 2 worlds between

[untold igloo]

Which Plot Tier you have?

[turbid plank]

i got 2 T4

[untold igloo]

Than yes you can spend the Ressources for it. If you dont wanna max out sells

[ionic wharf]

I would just sell unnecessary buildings and build fuel extractors as much as I can for getting passive fuel generation. There is no point in getting skins, they don't add anything to your gameplay in OW or Arena.

[untold igloo]

But first i woud max out everything

[turbid plank]

thanks a lot , i will do tht yes im still maxing out the buildings,

[turbid plank]

thanks for the advice

[untold igloo]

No Problem man, if they release something about this Blueprints etc. You still have the Power with T4s to go into this

With t2 or 1 no chance right now

[turbid plank]

okay, hope things will evolve in a good way,

[cinder fractal]

Still can't play

[empty path]

Why not? It's working for me

[cinder fractal]

It doesn't work for me on desktop or phone

[ionic wharf]

What device are you using? I had problems with ILVZero on my Google pixel also, but they somehow resolved it. But it was a while ago.

[cinder fractal]

It was working fine for me until yesterday, now I'm trying on desktop,laptop and phone it doesn't work anywhere

[ionic wharf]

Last resort would be just to reinstall it, don’t know what would have gone wrong.

[cinder fractal]

I'm doing that now

[untold igloo]

I Reinstall everything on my iphone yesterday After this it worked.

[cinder fractal]

Nope after reinstalling on the phone and desktop still doesn't work

Can someone check for me which windows version is working for you

[vocal pasture]

Have you got any vpn? With it on I can’t connect to ILV zero

[cinder fractal]

I didn't use VPN it just stopped working for me yesterday, I'm familiar with how anything illuvium connected doesn't work with VPN

[noble basin]

is there a site that has the current cost of every building and what building stats are?

[spiral ravine]

Are you able in this period to sell the fuel?

[cinder fractal]

At this point I tried with 5 different devices 😂

3 comps(2 windows 1mac) and 2 phones

Strange how I'm the only one left with a problem hopefully devs will figure it out it's not nice when you can't farm fuel

[cinder fractal]

I'm also unable to connect in the browser with my passport always getting the same error maybe that's the problem

[light niche]

Has someone already maxed out the level of a ressource extractor in a t1 land to know how much it generates?

[orchid apex]

Hey guys my land isnt working to play anymore threough the Epic app. What other alternatives are there for Zero if I wanna play it on my laptop?

[fair temple]

You could try downloading bluestacks probably, then emulate android, download it on the play store and play through there.

Havent tried it myself.

[rain breach]

Is it me, or the T1 fuel production now is a complete shit?

[leaden egret]

It is 😅

We want mega city ! 🔥

Make T1 great again ! 😂😂😂

[light niche]

coz of that i wanted to know if it gets better when maxed out extractor^^
or if its better for t1 to focus on blueprints...

so 50 is the max output if we have our extractor on max level on a t1 land?
in one day?

[tranquil sparrow]

includes converters passive

[true rampart]

tbh not sure if 50 is extractor alone or extractor + converters (and how many converters)

[rain breach]

Best decision I've made was to sold my T3 land in December 2022 for 3 ETH. Now I'm stuck playing with 3 useless T1 plots.

[light niche]

okey^^ sounds like extremely hard to get money back on t1^^

[rain breach]

tbh, I cannot complain. All the lands I've bought with sILV2 from the staking rewards.

[light niche]

maybe i focus more on blueprints...

[cinder grove]

Where can we give suggestions for IZ improvements?

[quiet heath]

I do not know if it has been said already but a little tip for anyone out there waiting for a converter and it is missing just a little bit of time on the passive converter...

The path % bonus applies to it

Also EVERY building attached to the path add up you don't see the %going up as it most likely is 0.1% at the time but on one of mine big job it reduced 10 minutes at the time per every building attached

and I did not know before

[spiral ravine]

Hi guys some of you are able to sell the fuel?

[oblique shell]

You're right
The t1 is close to the free one
So it's really hard to get fuel due to the limitation of resources production.
So there is only 2 paths to take.
Focus on leveling the buildings higher to get a good amount of resources that makes you able to cover the continuous fuel production, then produce fuel.
Or get the nexus to lvl7 or 8 and get the science buildings and focus on biodata, facts, then blueprints

[hazy tartan]

There is no feasible way these numbers match, im at 24 a day and not even nexus 8

[open stratus]

You just too good

[light niche]

how many converters do you have?

[hazy tartan]

Entirely possible

[hazy tartan]

15 total, but that 24 is from extractor only

Counting those it’s another roughly .5 from each a day

[light niche]

how can you generate 24 with one extractor?

what is the level?

[hazy tartan]

12 per 10 hours

L4

[light niche]

ouh nice, thanks dude 🙂
then i have to level it up^^ im only on level 2

[hazy tartan]

Get converters to l3 for roughly 1 per day passive from each converter

But can only be collected in groups of two

[harsh acorn]

How to mint blueprints once acquired in ILV 0 ?

[dark quartz]

15? Wow.. I didn’t know there was no cap for how many you can have in a land

Are they at efficiency rate of 100% or higher?

Or you’re just using them for the extra passive gains?

[turbid plank]

i plan to sell those two lands plots both level 201 and allmost maxed out, let me know your offer and i list them

[empty path]

Frikkin Apes

[true rampart]

#🛒〕land-dex

[hazy tartan]

All at 100% or higher, 5 of each converter for each fuel so 15 total, figure I should go as many as possible to ge the passive gains. Also wanna find out the actual cap because with passive gains you can go well over the advertised 50 max for a t1

[tropic monolith]

Is this a glitch?

[uneven pulsar]

what does it mean?

[dark quartz]

Interesting!

[devout panther]

I'm trying to sell fuel in the marketplace but the order always remains at 0%, what is the price to set to sell it?

[empty path]

Aaaaaargh I'm stuck

[young nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pussin-boots-cute-cat-shrek-i-feel-you-gif-13811256

[hazy tartan]

And that’s pre power stations too so I’ll probably have higher efficiency too

[hazy tartan]

As it stands I should have room for like 8 more tbh

[untold igloo]

Dont wanna play anymore 😰

[turbid plank]

sadly simply need money in my personal life, so no choice,

[untold igloo]

Oh, than i hope you will sell it soon. But the Progress stays if you sell?

[turbid plank]

no idea, i hope so for the guy who get my lands, its a nice cherry on the cake for him

[untold igloo]

Thats True

[turbid plank]

i listed for 4eth, hope i can get that

[versed torrent]

Hello, today I put fuel up for sale for the first time. I placed the order this morning, and by the afternoon, the order disappeared, but I haven't received any money in my account, nor has the fuel been replenished. This is happening through the Fuel Exchange page, but when I open Illuvium Zero, the fuel I sold does appear in the depot... Does anyone know if there are issues with selling fuel?

[river ember]

Guys where can I see the illuvials I scanned?

[versed torrent]

Continuing with the fuel issue, I've discovered where the sell order is. It seems that when selling fuel, you can select the selling price, and it turns out that the average selling price is approximately half of the fuel's purchase price, which cannot be modified. The thing is, since I set the fuel at the default price, which is the same as the purchase price, no fuel has been sold. I guess only people who set the fuel price below the purchase price are able to sell it... It seems like a rather obscure buy-sell mechanism. Is there any place where the reasoning behind this system and how it works is explained?

[uneven pulsar]

Its darkness

[uneven pulsar]

the same why i have less money they sold

anyone didn't know how it works

admins too

[versed torrent]

I suppose the reason for doing things this way is to keep buyers happy because if someone buys 100 at a selling price of, say, 10 and ends up receiving 180 instead, they’ll be very pleased. There’s a bonus that gives additional fuel based on the difference between the purchase price and the selling price. But what about the landowner? I can't directly use the fuel I produce on my land; instead, I have to buy it on the market at a higher price than I sold it (and the bonus doesn’t make up for the price difference). So whether I bought my land as an investment or to have a fuel supply for playing Overworld, I feel cheated.

[uneven pulsar]

yeap

will wait next news

[plucky venture]

I had to start using a VPN on Friday. Goes nowhere without it. No error, nothing ... just the Zero splash screen.

[gritty agate]

I'm curious what type of rewards you're receiving with a level 2 land being efficient as possible... Solon Hyperion and crypton?

[plucky venture]

Best of luck. Had to sell most of my crypto in 2022 due to life emergency, too. Why I held this one ... I'm still puzzling out. 😅

More people reaching higher production levels on their plots, I'm guessing.

Could also be people getting tired of OW ...

[turbid plank]

thanks hope community could help and give me good bets for my lands, as i need money fast thanks a lot

[plucky venture]

I literally bought a T4 last week or I'd pick one up ... not in a position to pick up another, atm.

Although I mostly bought it because the price was approaching 2 ETH, which is nuts.

[turbid plank]

yeah i try to sell both of mine for 4eth each as its what id need

[knotty sable]

I was hoping as a land owner we could transfer all my resources 1 to 1 to play with in the game. I get losing some when you sell it but not to play with

[opal thistle]

It's in the works Kieran already said so. I also really want this feature ASAP

[gritty wave]

data center doesn't need to be next to research to be more effective does it????

@opal thistle

[chilly ravine]

Hi Friends, how is the actual selling price for fuel?

[gritty wave]

cost you some fuel to find out lol

I saw someone say the bonus shows on the fuel section now

[chilly ravine]

funny answer. Anyone here who sold today fuel?

[opal thistle]

It's the other way around research lab efficiency improves when a data center is close by

[gritty wave]

yep, that's what i meant...ok...I'll have to fix that because I didn't see any increase in efficency from the numbers but I'll take your word for it...thanks 🙂

[timid sorrel]

What does upgrading the Materials Lab do?

[cinder fractal]

I tried on the phone with VPN and it didn't work let me try on the computer

[cinder fractal]

You can research higher tiers

If you want to research tier3 biodata you need level3 lab

[timid sorrel]

Makes sense thanks

[cinder fractal]

Thanks I can finally play again VPN saved the day

[timid sorrel]

So really you want to level up the scanner and lab to highest level then start scanning/research

[cinder fractal]

If you have multiple you will do a lot of research before others are leveled up

It's slow and expensive once when you reach level3 with scanners and labs

[royal ice]

Can F2P plots sell biodata?

[rich venture]

I cant connact to my Wallet 😦

[grizzled remnant]

Is there Drone Skin ffor every illuvial ?. it makes day that i try to get one blueprint with my 5 Mat Lab.
Like Stage3 Lynxes Drone skin exists ?.

if not, give my money back

[chilly lintel]

Why quantum fabricant lvl 6 is maxim ?

i can't upgrade more then lvl 6 all the extractor of crypto solon or hyperion .. that means max 50 pcs / day ... is that writen somewere ?

[twin knot]

yeah thats the max

[chilly lintel]

forever ? that's the max?

[flat steeple]

Harvesting time

[tardy falcon]

So on megacities will the path bonus be larger?

[flat steeple]

Last dub for a T1

[polar cosmos]

you have much of fuel on T1 land

[rotund forum]

Maybe that is the attraction. a 2x2 will have upto 80% (more like 56% in my case I think 14% is best I get) and 3x3 instant build.

you still have to pay, and since most high level buildings require fuel (which can´t speed up) it won´t be really instantly anyway.

[grizzled remnant]

the fuel is time reduced by roads.. you will never see 80% time reducedd allowed in megacities..

[rotund forum]

ah yeah, that does seem unlikely yes.

[open stratus]

I think perhaps megacities may not share pathing bonus. They already share everything else

[tardy falcon]

Maybe an extra 10% per? 2x2 30% 3x3 40%?

[rotund forum]

when you have the biodata, you can always research it for a blueprint, no? Even though after the "first season" they will be ranked out?

[lyric lodge]

Can anyone share a picture of a well optimized T2 and T1 blue print farm map ?

Whats the highest level the Nexus can go to ?

Is there anyway to work out what the max fuel a T2 can make everyday ?

[rotund forum]

yeah, i think it was 800 so after nerf 200

[lyric lodge]

what does nerf mean ?

[rotund forum]

well and the passive ones but on a T4 L6 that are only 6 fuels per day now, and on a T2 my guess would be 1

[lyric lodge]

so 800 of each fuel ?

[rotund forum]

there was not enough demand, so they released an "economy" patch, reducing output by 75% for the time being

[rotund forum]

no 200 per T2

in total

[lyric lodge]

Ah so what does the equate about on current fuel prices ? Are actualy going to be making anything for now

[rotund forum]

not much, 200 would be around 0,85$

against the current eth price

but let´s hope player base goes up bit by bit and eth will skyrocket in the next bullrun and then you´ll have a more decent pay

[lyric lodge]

But the more money we make, the more expensive it will be to play for players right >

?

Can anyone share a picture of a well optimized T2 and T1 blue print farm map ?

[rotund forum]

how do we make more money? you can try to sell more expensive your fuel but if there is no demand, you´ll make nothing at all. The only real solution is more players coming in over time. And retain them

[ionic wharf]

This is my T2. Upgrading to nexus 9 at the moment.

[open stratus]

Those fuel numbers were raw estimates. Some have shown you can push it higher, but yeah like 200 or 250 for a t2

[flint compass]

Is it possible to scan more than 5 unique illuvials? I’ve scanned 5 and my scanner has been failing ever since.

[rotund forum]

you need to upgrade or build an aditional databank. L1 can hold only 5 I think but L3 about 60 (biodata occupies 1 spot same as blueprints)

[flint compass]

Ok. I can hold 15. Guess I just need to scan more.

[rotund forum]

yeah if you have 100% efficiency, there is still only 5% chance you scan "something". And the shitty thing is, you can upgrade the scanner to L5, and then you will pay 18/18/18 fuel, with the same odds of finding something. So the price for a Tier 1 illuvial will go up.

and there seem to be some easier ones than others. L1 has loads of monkies. L2 seems to have the Lynxes quite often.

So the 5% is just finding something but I think each one has his own rarity. Ramphyre will be a lot harder to obtain than other T5´s. And this goes for every tier it seems, hence the monkey army

[quaint prism]

Does converter efficiency impact passive generation?

[dark quartz]

I could be wrong but I haven’t noticed any improvements

[true horizon]

Can someone explain benefits of upgraded scanner, data bank, and Materials Lab? I want to make sure I understand the role each has in the process and how much they should be upgraded

[minor hazel]

it absolutely does. I'm looking at a lvl 3 Solon @ 94% that produces 4/288 and a lvl 3 Solon @ 150% that produces 6/288

[grand silo]

what im thinking as well

[prisma trout]

I just quit playing for a while since my storage is full & I can't produce enough fuel to upgrade everything for a while with a T1.

[quaint prism]

That's super good to know and important, thanks!

[minor hazel]

scanner and material lab levels determine what level biodata you can find and then research (level 1 can find tier 1, level 2 can find t2, etc. same with mat lab researching those tiers for facts/BPs). data bank is just storage for what you find, no need to upgrade until you're getting close to limit

[minor hazel]

it also determines how much you get back when you actually convert. 94%-er would convert 15 into 10...150%er would convert 15 into 15

[dark quartz]

I have 3 with different efficiencies at lvl 2, and they all produce 4

Unless the difference is only at 150%, I haven’t noticed on my land

[minor hazel]

I'm looking at a t2 @ 150% that produces 5 so you're below the threshhold for an increase - which I think is actually in the 140's now
edit: move one to where you're getting below 100% eff and you'll see a difference

[dark quartz]

I see

[versed warren]

Why is lvl 2 134?

[versed warren]

Whats the max level for the fuel extractor

[prisma trout]

@south mural
Indeed it is. I'm really hoping they change it back. It's so difficult to make any progress like it is no matter how efficient I make it. Thanks for the numbers, though

@south mural
I don't get any partials yet. Is that a bug as well?

[dark quartz]

Absurd for sure. I still have no idea behind the teams logic to change the fuel production and how this makes sense to even bother investing or owning land(s)

Numbers just don’t add up.

12 days to produce 4, 5, 6… passive fuel

[prisma trout]

@south mural
That's what I'm saying. It's a full 12 days until I see anything, there are no partials showing up. Must still be buggy if you're even getting partials to show up.

@south mural
Oh, I see. Thank you

[noble willow]

asked in the other land chat too, hey all, is it against policy or politeness to put names/wallet addresses in here to try and track down owners to discuss unlisted plots?

[undone dagger]

Public wallet addresses is a bad idea, bots love scraping addresses and dumping scamtokens into 'em

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[noble willow]

I get that totally. I don't want to hit someone up without them saying yeah, just don't know how to get in touch...........

[versed warren]

So wait for the icon to pop up?

[winter parcel]

Nice 16% parth bonus, what land tier is this?

[versed warren]

Can i dm you

[grand silo]

would be good if one day all the resources had real value. wasting carbon would be stressful for me got like 8 of them plus the bonus t3

[winter parcel]

My tier 1 only has a 14% path with 150% efficiency of all resources at Nexus 8, nice for you to upgrade that fast

[winter parcel]

Maybe we suggest we have a marketplace building again for trading resources with a limit per market building level and cost minimum fuel consumption per decrease it's time to travel

[versed warren]

What fuel extractor do you have and what level is it?

Yeah, were pretty much at the same stage then. My goal is to now upgrade my quantum fabricator, and get my solon extractor to level 6.

[wooden panther]

what happen to this? cant load

[winter parcel]

A free land? Tier 1 has only 1 fuel site

[wooden panther]

why i cant open my flot now? still loading

[winter parcel]

Update the app

[wooden panther]

i already update sir...

[winter parcel]

Nice plot

[thin light]

I am having the same problem. Can not load my T3 land.

[winter parcel]

Thank you , I already manage my plot lessen other 150% efficiency for 16% path bonus

[winter parcel]

My plot already built 3 scanners (2 lvl1 & 1 lvl2) , 2 material lab and podarium with max efficiency

I later noticed the strategy you made to leveling up fast

[fallow lily]

What is the consensus for land value? I have a tier 2 land. Is it proving to be worth it?

[fresh glade]

Hello . anybody can help me ? i cant join with my Immutable x account . writted ERROR ERROR . about 4 days 😦 .

[vivid cipher]

The #❓❗〕community-help would let you post a screenshot of the error. That might help us figure out how to get you to successfully log in

[grand silo]

would be nice having some kind of carbon loop with a wastage tax etc to manage

no consequence for excess currently

also some kind of mining tech scan. deeper you go the rarer the resource.

mining tech discovers some rare earth crystal needed to unlock a OV cave. loot box, rare illuvial.

[cinder grove]

What is the max level of extractors?

[grand silo]

something like 7 , havent got mine there yet

[vivid cipher]

Should be 9 at the moment

[grand silo]

nice

[cinder grove]

Is it correct that one way to increase efficiency for a extractor you need many power stations, but it does not matter what level they are? When I increase the level of the power station efficiency is not going up, but when I add a level 1 power station it does.

[cinder grove]

Thank, long way to go 😉

[vivid cipher]

Correct

[cinder grove]

Ok, looks weird to me. So the level of the power station is only to provide the required power of the surrounding buildings

[vivid cipher]

Yes

[noble willow]

anyone else had building being cached. I had several level 1 power stations I rolled out after the nexus upgrade, they said completed, got to build another, then this

4 buildings underway at the same time

[cinder grove]

Illegal immigrants 😄

[vivid cipher]

Weird weird. That’s new to me. The dev team probably will want to see that one. There should be a way in game to report that issue.

[open stratus]

Unlimited building ! Yeahhhh

[noble willow]

yeah except it cached and didn't build anything for a few minutes, then took them one by one, even though they'd done their time so to speak. Still, if it meant i could do that whilst also doing the nexus and workshop that'd be cool

[rancid ledge]

I cannot log in with passport, it shows "Error fetching user status" all the time

[unreal oak]

hello, any idea how long it takes to process eth withdrawal? mine is pending for 2 days

[ember carbon]

me too...

[carmine grotto]

check ur withdrawal status, when u go to withdraw there should be a pending withdrawal button at the bottom of the window, click and confirm. You gotta do it manually.

[lyric lodge]

895ue[ are you geting good results ?

[covert crow]

Did you find a workaround? I'm having a similar issue with one of my Power Stations.

[lyric lodge]

where are your scanners ?

[lyric lodge]

are you getting good output ?

[lyric lodge]

so just buils loads of powerstations

[vocal ridge]

anyone else had problems building a power station after buildozing a tree? i keep getting and error and getting logged out. then a tree just appears again 😛

[little moon]

whats the max path bonus for a t1 plot?

[grand silo]

Mega city trial?

[noble willow]

I wish. I actually want to find the owners of land around me, it's not listed, and have no idea how to do that without causing issues lol

[grizzled remnant]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1277543867503218790
Bring your comments about it

[barren turtle]

20%

[ionic wharf]

At the moment not so much. Each fuel extractor generates 30 fuel every 16h, but I will soon get them to lvl 6 so each will generate 50 fuel per day. Fuel converters go up to 16 fuel in passive generation and its output doesn't change from lvl 5 to 6, so no point in upgrading to lvl 6 and spending this precious fuel. I calculated that I can max generate about 1200 fuel per week.

[rugged abyss]

"Nerf" is a term often used in the context of video games or online discussions to describe the act of weakening or reducing the power of a character, ability, weapon, or item in a game. When something is "nerfed," it means that the game developers have made it less effective or powerful, usually to balance the game and ensure fair play. The term originated from the Nerf brand of foam toys, which are soft and less harmful, symbolizing a reduction in danger or effectiveness.

[dark quartz]

1200 per week, that’s pretty bad. Not even 1 s3 run every 7 days. What tier is this land?

Ah, just read. T2

[royal ice]

Is it worth it to buy land right now?

[dark quartz]

After the fuel production nerf, I’d say it’s not worth it at all. But NFA

[royal ice]

Since S1 is wrapping up, I thought that I might reinvest (for lack of a better word)

Also, what's NFA?

[royal ice]

Nvm, looked it up, meaning no further action, right?

[proper quail]

not financial advise 🙂

[spiral ravine]

Hi guys! Is someone able to sell fuel in this period?

[royal ice]

🫡

[hoary grail]

not sure what price to set my fuel at. is everyone just selling at bottom rail, or something different? very hard to tell with this UI what the actual current price is

[spiral ravine]

I don't even know if people are able to sell the fuel! The last week wasn't possible

[hoary grail]

yikes. why is it a bug or what?

[spiral ravine]

Nobody bought it

[hoary grail]

last time i sold fuel i had to set it at bottom rail, wait 20 minutes, then set the price again if it didnt sell

[spiral ravine]

Which price did you set?

[hoary grail]

well a couple weeks ago i sold, and i just set my price to zero, and then it tells you the bottom rail number. so i set it to that plus 1

not sure if thats still the case tho

[spiral ravine]

i don't understand, which price exactly?

[cinder grove]

A Solon extractor in a T1 is extracting 2 Solon, but when the efficiency is 150% it still extracts 2 Solon. Can anybody explain?

[royal ice]

Maybe it rounds down?

IDK

Maybe some floating point weirdness?

[carmine grotto]

I hope they will get fuel production back to normal and allow us to use our fuel in Overworld

[nova epoch]

is this normal that I can only sell on lower rail and buy on upper rail? When I want to sell on upper rail nobody buys it and I dont find how to buy on lower rail prices

[carmine grotto]

I think you can only use the bonus fuel estimation as an indicator

[carmine grotto]

also you need to pay with eth if you want to have a bonus on fuel

[nova epoch]

selling 500 crypton to buy 150 crypton back

which is not a good experience as a gamer

[open stratus]

The fuel experience is an interesting one that's for sure.

[nova epoch]

yea I will just play zero, collect fuel and wait

[cinder grove]

I don’t play OW as long as I can’t use my own fuel. The fuel crates they gave are good to use as selling them gives less revenue than using. Also buying them gives a better fuel price if you want lower than market price

[nova epoch]

yea when I had the fuel I played OW frequently. This is getting less and less tho now, because of the fuel stuff (and that I cant really use the fuel of my lands... it is too complicated, im a lazy guy and I dont wanna do this exchange thing)... will wait and play league or so

[open stratus]

Yeah I've slowly ran out of funds. Waiting to be able to use my fuel also

[mortal mortar]

Im a owner of T1 land and my 2 workers just dont have anything to do, gotta wait for fuel to do any upgrade, probably few days... if I upgrade my nexus to lvl 6 than what? gonna w8 another days to get fueel tto do 1 upgrade of any of buildings? thats fun? im not a nerd glued to computer/phone 24/7 just a casual player. wtf is going on?

[shell rose]

Question. I find biodata. With that I can only research. When I research I find a blueprint. That blueprint can make skins - how do I make skins? I also understood we could sell blueprints but I don’t see them on the illuvidex.

[spiral ravine]

You can't sell skins at the moment for what i know

[shell rose]

I see.

But can I even make a skin somehow in zero? I don’t see a way to make a skin from a BP.

And I read above this fuel change makes everyone think no land is worth it basically. Should I be scanning and researching still?

[spiral ravine]

I don't know anything about the blueprint and scanning data, i think i am not gonna build them cause i just want produce fuel to sell

[spiral ravine]

I hope that just for the moment no land is worth it but with the future there will be a lot of improvements

[hazy tartan]

“No land is worth it” translates to my land isn’t worth as much as it was anymore and that’s from their eyes, imo best time to buy when everyone else wants out on a singular change, corrections to previous changes are often made in times of great distress

[thorny crater]

Not implemented yet. But yeah BP can be sold or we can use them to make skins. You can sell the BP it self, or make 1-infinity amount of skins to sell

[hazy tartan]

Fair amount of zero users not using OW to any degree because they can’t be bothered to sell then rebuy, system needs revisited to allow direct transfer to OW from zero, would be a fairly safe assumption they make any adjustment to give t1 more than a singular s1 run a week

[silver plover]

Love the smell of fresh blueprint in the morning!

[hazy tartan]

That’s what an assumption is

I am assuming they will adjust because of the outcry about the lack of actual OW playability from a t1

[cloud pecan]

how would you land owners feel about changing the 3 fuels into a singular one to streamline everything? Your 3 fuel sites just turn into 3 different identical sites of the same fuel

[hazy tartan]

You are fair to assume it’s a “fairly safe” thought they don’t change anything based on what you’ve seen, im assuming the opposite based on the sentiment and subsequent threads

Will start throwing NFA on my opinions though boss

Glad some think so highly of someone here for less than a month that they’d take financial advice from me

[hazy tartan]

Youre allowed to think that

[proper quail]

Did not play since a long time... got a question here, concerning converters : the lowest possible efficiency for converters is still 25%, right? And does low efficiency affect passive production?

[rotund jolt]

Does anyone understand the power supply on the game? My generators are already supplying so much but it seems to not be affecting the production buildings much

[fallow lily]

buildings require power, and when upgraded, they need more power. I do think the team needs to show this for building consumption more clearly

You actually have to turn on the power overlay, but even then it does not show consumption

But you can upgrade the power stations btw, and they will produce more

[foggy bison]

What level is your Solon Dredge? Thanks.

[knotty sable]

Multiple days of scanning with no luck. Sucks seeing fuel go to waste

[gritty wave]

might have to upgrade to get next tier of illuvs

[thorny crater]

Ok Got my Nexus to lvl 9 and by the end of the week ill have most fuel/convertors building maxed. Without convertors added the ROI for this plot to break even would be around 5 years for just fuel sales and 11 years if I stay the course I am in now. All estimated at the lowest end working on the high end next.

The numbers,* will add convertors soon*, for a t3 maxed out fuel. BP Focused with a side by side view of the numbers for just fuel sales if I decided to change focus.
Need to rethink converts situations some, and after I add those new ones ill update that part. This is also selling the fuel for all the same price that i just looked up a last sale and took that number for all 3.

Not Financial advice:

wont be adding any new labs but instead maybe more convertors

This is the land now. lots of real estate to build on

[gritty wave]

are you finding level 3 is about max what you want to do with most buildings?

scanners, research

[thorny crater]

I deleted bio data that is on my t2 but here is what is left:

BPs only lucky with stage 1s

[twin knot]

a couple t3 illuvials that's good!

keep researching those

[thorny crater]

oh it dont stop lol

[twin knot]

but yeah the fuel sink is real

I'm headed direction full BP as well spending all my daily fuel researching and scanning

[thorny crater]

Not gunna lie my goal was alwasy BPs lol....but i am waiting to see how they will execute it to the massess. its not 100% clear with me yet

Another thing i just realized it if your lab is a higher lvl and you search for a lower lvl biodata you still get charge for the higher amount.

idk if the sucess rate goes up though

i have more mre to test. just need power lol

[twin knot]

data bank should also improve research efficiency

[thorny crater]

they all at 150%

I wish we could downgrade buildings. convertors for example need different % based on lvl to get a 1:1

[thorny crater]

this is 100% true, now i want to down grad one 1 lab to lvl 1 lol

[pearl marten]

Yep T3s at the moment are pretty much 2 ways :

• either you go for fuel to get about 500/day to sell
• either you go full scanning/research -> you need 540 fuel/day to keep 5 scanners and 5 labs at maximum lvl working every day

so for a T3 i don't really see a middle ground

[fallow lily]

Wait, so the game isn't available to the "masses" yet?

[thorny crater]

blueprints are not implement yet to be made or sold.

only the testnet BPs are up for sale currently

[thorny crater]

yeah im going full BP lol

just need to convert once per day of crypton and im good

[pearl marten]

And BPs are not really the end game because most probably you won't sell BPs but use them to sell skins - if they ever become skins and not just a color pattern on the suits

[thorny crater]

i should made my labs levels 1,2, 3, 3 but other than that i added one more hyperion convertor.

I might add another lab but keep it lvl 1, if i do that i will bring in .77 a day instead of .85

i can delete it later but my best bp rates have ben with the lower end researching lol

[pearl marten]

I went 5 scanners and 5 labs on a halcyon T3

[pearl marten]

Yeah it's not really wise to upgrade quickly all the labs/scanners ...

[thorny crater]

do roads serve a purpose beyond anything other than bring down up grade time? or is the productions time too?

[foggy bison]

Thanks. For Nexus 9, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how I'm going to get storage for 3.4M Carbon. Just for grins, I added a 4th carbon silo. So I have 2 at Level 6, 2 at level 5, which only gets me 1.6M - not even close. The cost to get a silo to Level 7 is ridiculous, including requiring an upgrade to the Engineering Workshop to Level 7 (I was hoping to avoid that)!

[dusty edge]

is anyone have some kind of table in excel that show how much fuel you can earn on each tier land?

[quaint prism]

Not a zero percent chance. The team is willing to consider such simplifications to the fuel economy if it is better for the game: #1273886362440831042 message. It's up to the council and the new economist to discuss this topic with the team. I'm personally supportive of simplifications to the economy on the buying side, such as this, if we ever hope to see broader adoption.

[ornate flint]

Quick questions:

1. Can free land generate BPs that could be sold in the future, or only paid land?
2. Is building material lab based on how many scanner buildings you have?

Thanks!

[pearl marten]

Nope no other purpose/utility - as far as i know

[void raft]

its the scan and production time as well

[civic girder]

do we lose progress if we send the land to another wallet ?

[thorny crater]

No buildings and stuff stay as is, but not coins and builders

[pearl marten]

But i think you need to have the wallet linked to your Passport account

If you just send it randomly to another wallet progress might be lost

[civic girder]

its also on immutable

like from pass to another one

[pearl marten]

Yeah I'm not sure really.. maybe to be safe just link it to your passport account

[thorny crater]

I got some wasted space but i think ill still with this as the final build for a bit:

4 scanners and 5 labs

[void raft]

how much path bonus?

[thorny crater]

17%

bottom left i ca add some stuff

[void raft]

ok the question is, why?

[thorny crater]

why what?

[void raft]

why 17% why not just 5-10%?

[thorny crater]

well if it brings down scan and production time i want it higher

[void raft]

so you will get up in the middle of the night?

[thorny crater]

naw i colllect when i can

most things take 24 hours so far....does anything go over that yet?

havent got max sacnner /lab yet

[void raft]

24*0.83=20hours, so when you want to collect once a day, that few % do not make sense in my opinion

[thorny crater]

oh yeah you right

[void raft]

whats with the left and right top corners?

[foggy bison]

F-ing brilliant! I was hoping that's what you'd say! Thanks.

[barren pier]

Style points 😎

[stoic rapids]

how are fuel prices doing these days?

[junior hollow]

interesting, i got a scanner that's been picking up mostly lynxes biodata, is that a pure coincidence?

[stoic rapids]

lynx is the only T2 illuvial, so if you have a T2 scanner i'll find only lynx variants

[junior hollow]

yeah good point i forgot about that

[void raft]

Too much space for a scanner imo, you can build powerstations next to it 🙂
but you are right I wanted to have as many scanners on my T1 as possible, but I dont think I will be able to scan even with only one 😦

[pearl marten]

where did you get this? 😄

[pearl marten]

There are a LOT of lynxes 🙂 .. so no not a coincidence ... also you already found most of T1 illuvial biodata

[junior hollow]

i wonder what causes the rarity when everyone picking up the same blueprints?

[pearl marten]

I don't like that we can research the same biodata over and over again (which can lead to an inflation issue making most BPs worthless) but there are also 18 types of the same BP (biodata).. for example if you find a blueprint for Gyro Neuroplate stage 1 and i find a blueprint for Gyro Cybercore stage 1 these are not the same ... so there are 18 suits therefore afaik there are 18 different Gyro BPs

[void raft]

so guys do you think its worth having more low level scanners on a T1? I just dont know what to do with my T1 now...

[pearl marten]

The design before was that we can only successfully research ONCE a blueprint from a specific biodata which made sense

I will try to write an IIP in the near future so we can try to keep the scarcity/value of the Blueprints ... my idea would be either to be able to research a BP only once from a specific biodata or if you successfully have researched a BP, the biodata then gets deleted and if you find it again via scanning you can once more research for a BP

[thorny crater]

it was not orginally like this. idk when it changed but they made it. I think to give lowers tiers a chance to get BPs maybe?

it was supposed to be when you find the BP only you have that particular skin...unless its on a grading scale like commom, rare, epic, etc how it might be now

[pearl marten]

When Johnny was the 'lead' in IL zero the original design was only to be able to reasearch a BP only once from a specific biodata

Anyway .. the current design doesn't seem good to me ... it only devalues BPs as more lands/people find the same biodata

[thorny crater]

i got two atlas drones 🙂

did that on purpose lol

they are for different drones it looks like

i think drtone will be like cs2 knives lol

[pearl marten]

Yeah .. i really think T1s can't properly sustain BPs/research .. maybe only for a few T1s or T2s as research gets very expensive quickly

[pearl marten]

Yes .. so you don't have a duplicate 🙂

[thorny crater]

the pikachu of illuvium

[open stratus]

Until you get mega city functionality, then t1s are gonna be sweet

Not all hope is lost friends

A t3 or a t4 with a bunch of t1s can really blast out BPs

[thorny crater]

Im so glad im at the final run of upgrades lol

[open stratus]

Finally catching up the rest of my t3 before I nexus 9

Have yet to optimize still though.. leaving a lot on the table, although I guess converters are kind of meh rn anyway

[thorny crater]

passive is passive imo

[open stratus]

Slow is slow though 🤣

Is it true you can only build 12

Haven't got that far

[twilit bough]

Sucks to lose @amber atlas

[twilit bough]

Even megacities of all T1 can be relevant considering the spaceport etc

[potent forge]

is 201 the max level right now?

[open stratus]

Yeah fair. Was thinking more for the production aspect of the higher tier to support scanning at that volume

[signal dew]

Do plants affect scanning chances

[junior hollow]

no, plants and powerstations don't effect scanning efficiency

[signal dew]

Ok cool i thought i remembered them having an effect back in the early days before main net

[foggy bison]

Yes

[signal dew]

Is this placement for the scanner ok? Or is it too close to the edge of the map?

[vocal pasture]

Why is this?

Happens constantly

The transferred amount is different that the stated amount in sale

[thorny crater]

I just play around wiht the buildings to see where it starts to go down. you can get kind of close

[vestal spear]

I like that the few hours gives a little flexibility on collection time so I can collect about every 24 hours. Sometimes life reschedules the collection time.

[spare veldt]

It would be nice if when you clicked on the info button while a fuel extraction was taking place you could see the next upgrade requirements. Maybe this exists already

[potent dock]

Would have to take a look at the transaction to be sure.

[rotund forum]

did something change? I always put them right on the edge. I think they interfere with buildings except powerstations now, but not the edge. Also trees seem to not bother them any more

[vestal spear]

I remember that from playing before so I kept a spreadsheet this time.

[thorny crater]

power stations dont effect them every other buildings does though. but you can build closer than that above pic

[noble willow]

what's the rationale in that?

[vocal pasture]

I can give you the logs. It was not just this time. Why the difference?

[rotund jolt]

Yeah, I’m doing that but it’s not changing much the outcome in the production buildings

[potent dock]

Lots of potential reasons. Could be a UI issue, could be that the txn is being split up between multiple sellers, etc.

Hard to say without diving into it and seeing what actually happened.

[vocal pasture]

6.98 become 4.46, 13.98 become 8.86…the sums don’t seem to match

[potent dock]

Possible it's estimating a fuel price in the UI on the Illuvidex and not recording the real price you paid.

[vocal pasture]

It’s a sell, it seems to be selling for less than it estimates

[potent dock]

Any chance it's 2 different buyers? Ex. $8.86 + $5.14 = $14.

Could be one buy using part of your sell order, another buy using the remainder?

[vocal pasture]

Doesn’t look like, unless it has one day delay

I’ll try to make an excel of that to be sure

[potent dock]

If you're concerned you can submit a ticket to #❓❓〕support - Obviously I can't see your account activity, and Immutascan doesn't do a great job of indicating a sell for only part of an order.

The 2 txns I'm looking at that sum to $14 both say "3 days ago" in your SS, but that's a pretty big range of time.

[vocal pasture]

Im just riding the wave of uncertainty at this time, guess team is already swamped with tickets on this subject…but im curious to understand this disparity

[simple lance]

you have to click on the info button for each transaction to see what you actually earned. the $13.98 is what you would have gotten if you sold at low rail, but sales are below low rail

[vocal pasture]

Yes that’s it :/

It’s just bad ui

[rotund forum]

i think that is actually the high rail. The low rail can be seen if you delete the price completely, or go below what the lower rail is.

[vocal pasture]

This one stated 6.99 but in details it appears only this

[strong pewter]

Man this is a lot of fun. Unfortunately, I was loading up my clear spots of land with lots of Path to combat plant growth. As a result, every land that I covered with path Will not open up anymore. It's like overwhelmed the graphics or something. I also can't reset the land because it won't let me even get to the menu.

Any ideas?

[simple lance]

gotcha, thanks

[vocal pasture]

What a messy system!

😐

[rotund forum]

the "trick" to see what is actually selling and what is not is to first go to the buy option. Once there you put in 1000 and you will see how much bonus fuel you get. If you lower the 1000 until the sum of the two becomes 1000 THAT is the true upper rail. And still even when you go above it a bit and are not in a hurry to sell there are moments that there is just enough scarcity to sell for a bit higher price. Don´t ever sell the bottom price, you are just robbing yourself

[thorny crater]

ok here is what i did. i added the converters but my t3 is BP focused. waiting to confirm max 6 converters passive its upgrading now, but i think it is 24? someone correct me if I am wrong please

[vocal pasture]

It’s basically unsellable then.

In the beginning there was an expectation of 6000 fuel at $0.0088, so $50/daily.
Then 6000 fuel at $0.0020 or so, about $12/day.
Then 1500 at $0.0015, or about $2.25/day.
Now the need to be guessing if the estimate is real or just counting pennies…

Basically all that, on top of the reduced price, reduced land output, and impossibility of using it in ow is a little bit annoying to say the least :/

[thorny crater]

ah crap forgot number of converts hold on

not that much of a difference but added 16 more fuel lol

[rotund forum]

the logical thing to do would be just to sell the fuel, but I have come to a stage where gameplay becomes shorter and shorter, eventually it will be a 1 minute clicking game per 24h. The upgrades now all take 3-7 days, so the blueprints is kind of the fun part where you check whether you won anything interesting. But even if you find a T5 and it´s blueprint... how much is that going to be worth? The scanners all consume 18/18/18 fuel and the biolabs (now maximum 5) as well. And most of them are duds.

[thorny crater]

thats the gamble. If illuvium blows up i think they will be worth more than all the fuel being sold now, if not then those who sold fuel got some of thier money back.

ITs all about your goals. And mine is BPs

[rotund forum]

the highest I have achieved so far is a T3 blueprint both for drone and armor of the same illuvial. But it must be one of the simpler ones like monkeys L1 and Lynx L2, because I found this on other plots as well pretty much right away

I got this one today, but I just noticed that they all say costs 6, and that is not true. Cheapest you would find this would be on a T4 scanner and they use 15/15/15

[pearl marten]

The question is not how much the blueprint will cost but how cool the skin you produce with it looks...
If it's a 'meta' illuvial and we have many players that one blueprint might bring good income by producing and selling skins

[atomic cove]

Hey IZ community! I have something exciting to share today. Tomorrow, I'll be hosting the first IZ giveaway in partnership with Lootrush, where they'll be showcasing their lending platform with Illuvium Zero assets.

The giveaway offers 30 days of free playtime on a T1 land plot, giving you the chance to experience the game at no cost. After the 30 days, you'll have the option to continue playing on that same plot, but a monthly rent fee will apply.

If you're interested in participating follow me on https://x.com/X_Filow in order to win you'll have to be the first to answer correctly to a simple question I'll be making there related to IZ.

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hahah 😅
well we gotta start somewhere.

[tardy falcon]

Some biodata success today

[prisma trout]

@tardy falcon
Good for you. I'm glad someone is getting somewhere. I gave up & went back to pokemon for a while. Too much aggravation in my life to add more at the moment. Hope you have unlimited success goung forward

[tardy falcon]

Question about biodata and BPs
Is it the biodata that's more limited in their circulating supply or the BPs... or both?

[tardy falcon]

Oh noo... did the t1 become too much of a grind? Or the nerf? both? the mood in discord?

[vapid jolt]

Excited for this❤️

[atomic cove]

guys if you have any questions take this opportunity to ask @vapid jolt himself. He's more than willing to help new players on board to their platform.

[prisma trout]

@tardy falcon
The grind and the nerf. I can't even get enough fuel to uograde storage and I'm full. I got to L6 on the nexus, but can't upgrade any other bldgs I need or to scan for anything. I'm at L5 on all my storage & can't upgrade further. It's become too rediculous & beyond frustrating to me. This is absolutely not how the land was presented to be during the hype for the land sale. It's total bologna to me. I lost 1k I would love to have back. You can't make even a small percentage to recoup losses at this rate, either. I loved it when it first came out, but after well over 2 years to have this to put up with...nope.

@tardy falcon
I can't even do the missions anymore. I think I was able to accumulate 10,000 points. At least that was something. It's just too frustrating the way it is.

[tardy falcon]

Damn. That’s a very honest and real reason. You’re not alone in those thoughts. I hope the team understands the sentiment and makes appropriate changes so people can enjoy the game again.

[prisma trout]

@tardy falcon
Thanks. I hope so too, but I'm nit holding my breath.

@south mural
Thanks for your upbeat attitude. I really am not goung to play. I'm have no patience with this so called game anymore...wsy too much hype & talk, but no real results to keep landowners interested after investing what thay thought would be a good idea. Have fun with the grinding. I personally have had enough.

[unreal oak]

whats wrong with ETH withdrawal? mine is pending for 3 days 🫤

[prisma trout]

@south mural
I wish you luck.

[random siren]

72 hours is the norm rn

[serene iris]

Nice... sounds like a cheap way to get so eobe to develop t1s

[austere tendon]

In terms of building structure and efficiency, think I'm almost maxed on my T2. Leaving space at top for scanner but 4 of each converter at 150% I think is close ot it

now its just a mass upgrade and scan game then stockpile resources

[noble willow]

I thought buildings had to be further back than that, good to know it's not. Question on scanners too, does being that close to the edge effect scan results?

I am wondering/hoping that in future plans there are added building types (Not just the gyms) where you need to make a much more impactful decision on what to do....you could have one of 6 styles/outcomes to go for, and therefore your plot will be different to anyone else's.
Then it is more of a building game, rather than just a churn. There are more significant tactics to consider

[austere tendon]

mines at 100% and I dont think it can go over that

I was able to build up pretty close, but had to spend a lot of time finding the exact one pixel away to make it stay 100%

but Im certainly focusing on fuel and not blueprints

[noble willow]

cool. I have different plots, where one lends itself to multiple scanners, one to one or none, so for me all about maximum value.
Only doing T1, and from current convos blueprints aren't really that valuable, but I'm still going to do it because I play Overworld too, and anything I don't need to pay for is a good thing IMO

[austere tendon]

yea only one T2 for me so have to just mix it up and maximize best I can

[unreal oak]

i also have T2 land all running 150% 😬

[copper swan]

What’s better to research, drone or armour skin?

[shut wave]

I have a question. So with these bundles selling different fuels in different quantities. Did the land sale fuel sites take this into consideration. I mean more lands have dimensional rift and least have hyperion and so on?

[vivid cipher]

No. Land sale was randomly generated, aimed at balanced.

[vivid cipher]

Fuel Convertors were always expected to be used to balance supply with the demand

[open stratus]

Hey can you only build 12 fuel converters?

[compact nebula]

I would like to know the answer to above too ^^ 12 converters max?

[inland shore]

Great job on killing the value of my lands team

[junior hollow]

it's always about you.

[inland shore]

ok creeper

[atomic cove]

yes

from the same type

[warm helm]

Does anyone has a problem with the land zero app ? Mine doesnt load si ce 1 week after installing it and removing it many times

[open stratus]

So in theory you could 12 hyperion 12 crypton etc

[limpid quest]

Good day guys

Question from community - 4 singularity scanners is maximum?

[atomic cove]

yes

[atomic cove]

nop

[open stratus]

But how feasible is that

[atomic cove]

I know I have more in my land

[open stratus]

Unless you're mashing 80%ers everywhere

[limpid quest]

There is any maximum?

[atomic cove]

Im stacking quite a few at 50% just for the passive

[open stratus]

I have seen it said there is 5 max

[atomic cove]

haven't found out bout that

[open stratus]

The passive ? What's that like 6 every 288 hours

[atomic cove]

at lvl 5 it's a bit more

[open stratus]

What should I do with this

[kindred monolith]

Hello, is there a limit in numbers of singularity scanners? I have 4 and the one I just updated to lvl 4 remains at 21h25 and is no longer advancing

It shows it is paused ⏸️ in the science activity tab