🎮〕illuvium-zero

[radiant sky]

Yes

[last tiger]

Nobody answered that question with certain

[tired aurora]

no way, wasn't volume like $70m?

[radiant sky]

Real money was just 7 or 8 m
Rest was silv2

[radiant sky]

Wasn't it in some patchnotes?

[last tiger]

I've receive 7 cents from that lol

[tired aurora]

I seee. Was ILV price still so high at that time? impact was very little compared to 1st revdiv this month which was way less $

[radiant sky]

Can't remember tbh

[last tiger]

Idk brother and if it does I have to change everything again lol

Yeah I must do that soon I'm waiting for balance path

[radiant sky]

Afaik it was always the case (unless it was Buggy), but never showed in the Info popup window

When i'm back AT Desktop i can Check... Pretty sure there was a Bug and was mentioned it got fixed ans should work again

[last tiger]

Yeah

[last tiger]

So 150% efficiency and path roads decrease the passive fuel converters timer?

[quiet heath]

Is there a known issue than when upgrading the fuel converters sometimes you lose the fuel??

I lost 16 solon because of that, but when I upgraded a fuel converter on another plot I did not lose anything
Should I raise a support case?

[unborn pilot]

Turns out it's even random.. i go to one land and do some stuff and then the sort order is totally different when I go back to the Plots screen. Makes it really hard to keep track of what I'm working on

[quiet heath]

But I did not lose anything on the other plot that had 1 solon
That is why I did it on the bigger one

Fair enough

Would be nice than to have an alert in red like collect your fuel before upgrading

Just like it happens for the storage when they are full...

[fiery iris]

Zero is riddled with bugs since patch

[quiet heath]

Or you know, any uncollected fuel will be lost after the upgrade of the building

[quiet heath]

It is just tiring to ger through all them that's it,

I know the team is working hard on it and it will be like this for potentially another 3-6 months until the games will get polished

[fiery iris]

In the mean time we make zero fuel

[quiet heath]

Yep, that seems the way hahahah

[twin oracle]

No, I will only complain about this. If this is not what it will be so it's fine. If they will change the production in the future

[safe crater]

Barely making any progress since the fuel update. No fun at all

[undone dagger]

The one the pothole-filler drives over is already filled, he did it himself in his free time because he has access to the tools

[gritty wave]

I have a t1 and I actually find it more intuitive and more fun

[plucky venture]

Unit testing and QE are Software 101 things.

There's a belief by some Agile practitioners that you do not need testers because users will give you the feedback. Strictly speaking, that is true. The problem is that sometimes the feedback is "User X has not logged back into the game."

If you have some software you care about, and there is a public perception involved, you need to have testers. Even if it is just 2-3 folks per game, if the team is "working hard," then they should be able to keep those people busy.

And apparently everyone in the office plays, but your point is valid. Saying Keiran "tests every build" doesn't count because he's going to give minimal feedback 90% of the time because that's all he has time for. You need more details to make good fixes.

[last tiger]

💯

[simple dove]

Get guys, should I build roads to my bio scanners?

Or will this reduce likelihood of getting biodata?

[analog basin]

Totally agree with the deceptive advertising perspective. What were they thinking when they approved that move?

Play a F2P to get the feel then buy an actual one and discover they are not even close to one another. Huh?

[atomic zealot]

Has anyone kept track with fuel revenue?

They don't care, I'll say it again. Land is a liability on the devs balance sheets

The only time they'll fix it is before a land sale if the game survives that long

[plucky venture]

That's not gonna cut it. They would have to fix it 6+ months before a land sale or thousands of us will be saying, "Just buy ILV. Don't bother."

Additionally, a land sale is a bull market thing. It's a FOMO buy-at-the-top kind of money grab. They wouldn't get beans for it if they ran one today.

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

What was ILV when the land sale happened?
What is it today?
You think that's unrelated to how much they would raise?

My point is: There isn't much motivation for them to fix IZ right now. If money is the motivation, this isn't paying the bills. Even if they were going to run another land sale, there's no point in running one right now because even if they fixed the game, the whole market is so far down, they would only get a tiny fraction of the previous haul.

Clearly, they are prioritizing Arena, right now. This was to be the centerpiece around which this eSport was going to be built, right? And that centerpiece isn't finished. OW and IZ can wait, but if you want to have people competing, "Airdrop points" ain't it.

[spice vector]

Actually, we have people working on each game concurrently 🙂

[plucky venture]

Sure, sure. I work for a software company. We have people working 100's of projects at once. But priority is priority. We are pushing probably 50% of our projects into AI right now because it's paying bank.

[gritty wave]

and honestly, all they should have done at the time is work on zero and getting it out, then adding other games, vs building the plane in the air...look at Boeing 😉

of course hindsight is 20/20

[plucky venture]

To some degree, I think they want a wider ecosystem than these three, but these two is a minimum for an ecosystem. They could do OW and Arena or IZ and OW, but they went for all three. It's okay.

The difference between this and Boeing is that the plane didn't exist, before. Boeing has been making planes for a long time and decided they would rather stop doing it as well. Wait, that's not right. (ahem) Optimize their quarterly operating expenditures by trimming redundant processes.

[rotund forum]

no, I mean if you import them one by one, in your desired order, that should do it... for now. But I think at one point team will put in a better filter

[craggy bison]

We are all feeling the pain but why not just give it 6 months and see what happens who knows what can happen in that time 🤔

[plucky venture]

"Sort" is one of the first things you learn programming. See also: #1275551012220047542 message

[rotund forum]

yeah, hence the beta

but yes, I think we are the guinea pigs

[plucky venture]

The people are divided into the projects, not the projects into the people. We have 25,000 employees. It's okay.

Believe as you will, but our customer base has grown 30%/year for 15 years. 🙂

My day job is actually successful, not just trying to be.

[rotund forum]

I think Johnny was the godfather or sorts of zero and we somehow collectivally pushed him away with all the negativaty. That is such a sick thing man. But I think they have pulled in some guy that has 10+ years experience in mobile gaming in his place. I don´t know if that is going to solve all zero issues but I hope the community is a bit more decent this time.

[plucky venture]

You're just bad at math. We have thousands of developers. 100's of projects = ~10 people per deliverable. Some teams are as small as 2-3 people to deliver a feature. It's not that hard, man.

[atomic zealot]

I don't believe anyone believes that

[unborn pilot]

I know what you meant, but i'm saying mine are getting randomized each time I play a different land

Without doing any transfers

[rotund forum]

I don´t want to mingle but I think illuvium devs are decicated. not spending money on these external companies. If I am wrong please correct me

[rotund forum]

That I can promise you does not happen to me. Only once after all I transferred I got it in a different order but before then it was always similar and after that it was always similar.

that said... you can use as much wallets as you want if you don´t like the system. It is also more safe

[plucky venture]

Mine have changed order a few times. I don't know why. It isn't different each time I log in, so maybe there is some trigger there that rearranges them? Weird.

[rotund forum]

if we think the order of multiple lands matters... we just whine to the team and they will fix it

for me it seems like a logical thing yet not a priority

there were 20000 plots and 8000 users, so a lot had more than one plot. now the unique plots have grown. so in a way it gets more important

[plucky venture]

It's definitely one of those things where they expect most people just to see the free plot and maybe one other. There's no "sort" or "filter" on that screen, so ... it's a minor thing to fix, most likely. @unborn pilot - you should ask for something like sort or filter in the feedback-ideas.

[rotund forum]

in the last beta there was no filter.... now there is, so I don´t even bother, I think they know

and my plots... 1-4 I have some that make up a mini mega land (2x2) so I think that will be a whole other filter...

nestle was very noble. but as all in history he got old and sold it off. Now it is one of the most corrupt companies in the food industry. Too bad.

[plucky venture]

True ... the water thing in Cali is messed up.

[rotund forum]

cali colombia?

[plucky venture]

Look up "nestle water california."

[atomic zealot]

How long has illuvium been in development? And this is the "game" they came up with

And hundreds of millions of dollars

[rotund forum]

ahhh ok. yeah here in europe we have Perriers, from France. Apparently someone took a shit in one of their wells provoking a coli-e spread. So now they sell tap water ... with no minerals, but even more expensive 😝

[atomic zealot]

Using an existing engine mind you

They didn't even build their own engine.

Meanwhile you have Indies creating masterpieces like valheim

[plucky venture]

That's a bigger scam than crypto.

[lethal wyvern]

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[rotund forum]

dude, NO ONE uses an own engine, it would take a decade. But that said, they used NOTHING of those pre fabricated rocks and trees etc... all is original

[plucky venture]

While true, we've been seeing beautiful rocks and trees for years, too ... it does feel like more should be in-hand by now.

[rotund forum]

they had a weekly show, with andrew wall... they would litterally show off the unique rocks

this went on for a long time

I don´t know why they discontinued that. It was the best you tube update there was during the earlier years

[atomic zealot]

Idc about the graphics, I care about gameplay....you should see my steam library some of these games are pixel art

[vapid jolt]

Hey guys when a land is transferred does it lose all its progression?

[rotund forum]

the brother that burned out was a regular. I really hope he is doing well. He left the proyect for basically our toxicity. He was a gem and another person we pushed away. I feel sometimes ashamed to be part of this community, although yes I have vented my frustration as well, but never to a point that a person would burn out. It was all of us. We should really really start behaving a bit more adult and a LOT more decent to the devs

[atomic zealot]

Yeah it's really sad, I wanna know who came up with the ow gameplay idea and thought this was great and it would sell

[rotund forum]

thing is, you have to clearly indicate your wallet before you move anything and then no progress will be lost mate

[steady fable]

Guys why are you here if you don't like the game? Serious question

[atomic zealot]

Yeah I mean I never meant to upset anyone but I am upset at these stunts and screwing people over.

[vapid jolt]

What does that mean mate, 'clearly indicate your wallet'?

[plucky venture]

This is a noble ask, but the problem is: They already have our money. If this was just at-will, some random game, then obviously a toxic community is a terrible thing. However, I also believe the toxicity will end if they start to deliver on some fraction of Kieran's hype.

[rotund forum]

yeah, I also come here to vent my frustrations of not being a millionaire yet, as I somehow imagined I´d be. OK being realistic, he was an art creator and all the beautiful illuvials come from his hand. And we scared that artist away. I faceslap on that

[rotund forum]

ehm, best and easiest way is to watch youtube of nijafe

he goes step by step

[atomic zealot]

That's too elaborate imo, ow feels like a project put together at the last minute to submit to your teacher in school

It could've been so much more

[atomic zealot]

Again, art is cool and all but it's just a cherry on top for me. Game play is what really matters. Some games have both and it makes it so much better but if the game only has art....gg

[rotund forum]

shit I don´t know what to answer you brother. But I did my own math and selling fuel I will have after 17 days a roi in 3 years, not 2 like kieran said but give the man a break... it was a rough calculation and the game is out less then a month

[plucky venture]

My ROI is maybe 72 years at the current rate. I may have spent a bit too much on land ... but tbh, that's not the ROI that I was looking for. I wanted to mint Illuvials, and thought land would be a decent fuel coupon. It is ... almost a decent fuel coupon. Hopefully it will be, soon.

[rotund forum]

I have a lot of invested in zero so I gave that priority but in closed beta the last release I really liked OW. I complained about solitute... and they kind of improved that with the illuvials running around, but this will only get better... soon we will complain about some dude stealing our running illuvial

[rotund forum]

I did my math and for the moment zero does better than staking. zero has 3 years roi while staking for me has 55 years 🙈

but I imagine that will improve

[plucky venture]

I kinda want this terrible T4. I need to go find a couple ETH ...

[shut wave]

Iv thought about the decisions from the teams point of view. Everything makes sense. Its just getting player numbersup. It will happen!

[atomic zealot]

I love these mobile games and bought land but thank god I was paying attention and saw the disaster this game was headed to and sold a while ago. As for overworld, the game CAN be better but with the studios track record it needs a minimum of 2-3 years and a complete change which the devs have about 12 months of runway and no way they'll pull another land sale or something like that soon.

[vapid jolt]

My understanding is that players do informal/manual scholarships. What were you envisioning exactly here?

[atomic zealot]

You really think the founders thought ow was a good idea for a game?

[rotund forum]

what track record mate? I mean I love to be critical but they are brand new

[plucky venture]

Not as it is. They wanted the experience of 3D shooter-style Pokemon. I think OW will get to that. I've spent a lot more time playing it than I expected, for sure.

[atomic zealot]

I think it was more like "hey, what's the quickest/cheapest game you can make? Okay do that"

[atomic zealot]

It took them like 4 years to produce this game.... making a fun game will take them way longer

[rotund forum]

give it time. They will both improve as expand to some kind of virtual buying packs... since OW is still hard to run on your average asian phone.

[atomic zealot]

I spent a lot of time playing OW cuz I thought I could use them in pvp but that turned out to be a disaster

[rotund forum]

I might be wrong but I think I bought my land 2022, and there was not much before that. so not 4 years, more 2 active I think. Correct me if I am wrong

[plucky venture]

There are plenty of scams on Steam using stock Unreal Engine assets. That doesn't take 4 years. In fact, it has been done a few times by 1-2 people in less than a week.

There is a lot of care in level design on OW. Maybe not enough on gameplay, but I'm not as sour on that as I am the fuel nerf. lol

[lethal wyvern]

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[atomic zealot]

I think the game was supposed to release in 2021 lol

[rotund forum]

my friend, I said it before and I say it now.,.. I sell in eth. and no, I actually sell more now than before the "nerf"

[plucky venture]

There's definitely an execution issue. No two ways about it. Without working in the office with them, it would be tough to say what it is, specifically. But the timeline tells the story ... it should not take 4 years to make the things we have in-hand. Something is broken in the factory.

[rotund forum]

just don.t sell cheap. Takes a bit longer but in 24.48 hours i sell all, especially solon at top rail

[atomic zealot]

Yes, I'm with you. I personally don't like overworld but I'm not mad about it because I can simply not play but what they did with zero was outrageous and it's affecting overworld now too and although I sold my land it's a sour taste

[plucky venture]

I have yet to sell at top rail, but in fairness, I am no longer selling at the minimum, either. It's between average and top.

[atomic zealot]

Also overworld affects zero so it's just garbage feeding garbage

[atomic zealot]

But your volume is cut in 4

Cuz there's no demand

[rotund forum]

there was a guy here, he wanted some kind of opec for fuel sellers, especially T4 but that at that point made little sense. Now after the nerf it starts making sense. I still see fools selling in the ledger at bottom prices and yes, they sell first but I sell within 2 days at a price I think is reasonable and it is x2-x3 those fools.

[plucky venture]

This T4 is 2.36 ETH. My T3 was 4.49. Damn ...

[rotund forum]

so yes, I am all for a sort of guild or whatever for fuel sellers.

to determine a not abuse price not a bottom price

[atomic zealot]

It's crazy those are t4 prices...should be like $300

If anything

[rotund forum]

yes mate; I get that but you have to understand the situation is far from ideal. I did not sell 80% of my fuel so, so what if I sold that 20% quite ok

i prefer sell 100% at half that price

top shelf is 0,026 and I am selling 0,020 already. solon flies, the others go more slow but with this nerf it takes a lot of time to fill the tanks.

I am just a slum boy, I did not get in to buy tokens at that level. Once I knew about the project I got in neck deep

yes, x10 would already be nice. But x 50 x100 x1000 would be life changing

[atomic zealot]

Just looked it up, started in 2020

4 years for this

[rotund forum]

yeah but that is just an idea mate. You can´r invest in that until they release a token or something

let´s just say i had a lot invested, in land and token. and it was not the first time I made that mistake. Not saying it is a bad investment, but just try to divesify in other things. Gold is skyrocketing, sure that won´tr make you rich but better investment than dollars or euros.

[plucky venture]

This "NVDA" thing is going a little nuts ...

[atomic zealot]

I never thought this would make me rich but it's been something I always wanted as a kid. I remember playing in wow and grinding gear and thinking it'd be so cool to sell for real money

[rotund forum]

I am part of this community. I see part of this community hammer soms devs, that makes me feel ashamed to be part of this community, Yet I wish the best for both the team as the community, so I say what every half brained person would say, invest, but not over invest in this. It is high risk high reward and that strategy is not for everyone

[rotund forum]

yes, I know. I sucked at damage or tanking but was the best healer in the server. And I lost a lot of sleep on that playing till deep in the night and getting up at 7 to go to work. BUt it was great. I want that back! Not the fucking getting up at 7:30 but that thrill

I am the first to bite at these promises, but how real is that. How can they promise that? The fools are us mate. I am sure the game will be great, what other web3 game is better so far? but to be millionairs in 2024 might have been a bit too much of wishful thinking

[atomic zealot]

Yesss, my main was a warlock. I loved grinding and looking for stuff

[rotund forum]

But anyway, there were several attacks on Kieran; that land was shit and better invest in the token. I am invested in both and right now land is the more profitable... by far

[noble willow]

I'd love to be able to name my plots in my ui

[unborn pilot]

Yes please

[rotund forum]

I may be innocent my friend, but how can they not play? I moved my lands to passport which I didn´t like and then moved them back when it was fixed. Not one single steal or incident I heard of.

about the t4 thing, that is true but it has always been so. I play t1, t2 t3 and t4 and most of the day i spend on y4 because it pays and it is more fun. but i understand not all can be t4. so i play all...

ok again i can only speak from my experience. I paid for speed ups. they did´ñ arrive correctly. they fixed all of that. I had several complaints. all were fixed. ALL. Not on day one but give it 1-2 weeks and all is settled

now i have double scans.. don´t even know if that is a bug?

at most i have 2. so maybe for drone and armor?

tvh i paid for low level speed ups... now t4 scanner to t5 is a week... no way

ok i hope they fix his issues. There are not 1M players so far so it should be pretty doable

[broken roost]

how do i make Discord verify my land plot located in passport wallet?

it wont find it in imx wallet

lol gtfo scammer

[lethal wyvern]

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[rotund forum]

just show it here... why dm him?

[rotund forum]

yeah, although your request makes little sense to me don´t trust guys who will go out of this chatroom ever

[broken roost]

i know thansks. Why little sense?

[rotund forum]

i don´t understand why you need discord to verify anything but don´t trust outside guys ever

[broken roost]

to get access to landowners chat

[rotund forum]

you are here?

[broken roost]

this is Zero chat, there is anotherone exclusive to landowners

[rotund forum]

ok feel free to dive into anything. Don´t whine if you get scammed later on. I am landowner as most here. Don´t know what better room there is than this that is not a scam

[lethal wyvern]

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[broken roost]

dude its a feature in illuvium discord wtf

[rotund forum]

yes, indeed, but not some scammer that will fuck you over again

[lethal wyvern]

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[rotund forum]

ohh f*** you mozart bot

[iron laurel]

To answer your question, you can't. It won't read Passport

[rotund forum]

anyway i am off. I know it is not an airport, no need to annouce it but i like to feel somewhat not totally unimportant. good night

[rotund forum]

love you too mate

[broken roost]

thanks

[iron laurel]

I asked the same thing the other day.

[broken roost]

yeah kind of sucks to not have access to landowner chat

[rotund forum]

yes. but scammers are asking him to dm. that was my proble,

[lethal wyvern]

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[broken roost]

specially when you want to orgnize people to place sell orders all together at the same time and low prices, so then we all go and buy our own fuel (x20 from the dao) cheap

juuust kidding

[rotund forum]

again fu mozart

[foggy bison]

Haha, didn't know there was a landowner chat. I probably don't have access to it either. Should I want access to it?

[broken roost]

well i only recall once we got a leak before anyone else but thats about it. Its more quiet overall

[deep granite]

alright, roast my land. how wrong am i doing it

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-3311871195309494726

[rotund forum]

I don´t know if there is a landowner chat but not to be disrespectful, T1-3 make like 20% or all the fuel at full potential which will be quite frankly in spring 2025. So T4 there less than 800 from the 20000 lands sold. and those that have the money to buy a T4 will have multiple. So if these holders were to stick together then yes,...prices will go up

[signal maple]

what is the maximum path bonus guys? I thought it should be 21% but I just get 20% even connected all 202 buildings?

[flat steeple]

What’s the passive rate for those bottom left converters though? 👀

[deep granite]

1 2 3 on level 1 2 3

nvm its 2 on lv 3

[deep granite]

and then the maxed ones are 6 passive

[flat steeple]

So still taxed heavy on negative efficiency, but not positive

[deep granite]

3 crammed together the same as one at 142%

the issue is plots are limited to 12 of each converter type

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/more-power-home-improvement-tim-allen-drill-gif-145526285852763861

https://tenor.com/view/setting-a-mousetrap-the-cuphead-show-setting-a-bait-trap-trying-to-catch-a-mouse-netflix-gif-27352519

[deep granite]

that does look better, if you get at least 6 of them to passive 3 instead of 2 then i think its winning

[flat steeple]

My nemesis is back 🪤

[deep granite]

whats the eff on those guys? all 126% or whatever is needed for max passive?

12 converters, the limit, at 2 passive each is 24. so if i can get 6 of them at 4 passive then its matched

it looks like you have 6 of each converter if im counting right?

so it looks like 80-100% is 4 passive, past 100 is 5. so if all converters were at 80 and a couple at 100+ thats winning, and that sounds very doable

F time to completely re do my land again again again

TY

makes sense. good lil tip!

if it wasnt for the converter limit of 12 my idea would be better tho! :p

[flat steeple]

At least you tried so we all could better ourselves in a dry bones 🦴 time

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[deep granite]

its what im here for

[quaint prism]

Oh there's a converter limit? Funny enough I have 12 converters spaced out to have enough efficiency and was thinking about making a bunch more at 50%. Guess they accounted for that x)

[flat steeple]

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[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-russia-laughing-chuckle-lol-gif-5877833

[versed vault]

I do not have permision to give feedback in the suggestions area (and I can't post screenshots) -- my opinion not valued here?

[noble willow]

I"m pretty new, only got my first plot to about lvl 130, the slow down grind has just started. Converting is going to be a pain, until passives kick in at higher levels.

tier 1.
Nexus currently 6, working on workstation upgrade

workshop

path bonus is 6% due to nexus level building limit

[twilit bough]

20

[deep granite]

still working but looks better

[twilit bough]

Passive may actually be better like this

[deep granite]

its not because the converter limit is 12, did the math 😄

[twilit bough]

There is a limit?

[deep granite]

12 of each, yes

[twilit bough]

Ah. So that we don't cover land with them lol

Do the tree boost if element limits you on t1

Podarium

Is your friend

[noble willow]

yeah I'm just experimenting at this stage. Went to hard on the power stations I think, driving efficiency of everything. Obviously I need the 3 converters depending on when needing to upgrade the nexus.

Will look at the podarium.

[twilit bough]

That's made for t1...

Get more trees get more elements cutting them

[noble willow]

I need to get more storage ATM to get that up and running.

so will be next phase I guess

[quaint prism]

Is there still the bug where if your plot is too full it can fail to load permanently?

I've been avoiding extra trees outta concern for that

[twilit bough]

Yes. They have a fix but will not be before Sept.

[twilit bough]

#1268088574834905210 message

[twilit bough]

That's only if too full of path

[quaint prism]

Oh really? I had guesed the reason was insufficient space to spawn a tree.

[kind wave]

Hey not meaning to blast the same message in multiple rooms but i didnt get any answers in community help and i figured you all might know.

How does rev dis for land owners work???

1. What if someone owns land, but does not have staked ILV? How do they get their share of the 5%?

2. If i have land and stake ILV, how can i tell what portion of my rev dis came from land and what portion from staked ILV?

3. Is earning revanue from land dependant on "selling" collected fuel? Or do i still get the land revanue if i use the fuel in game or in OW?

[burnt viper]

to get a share of the 5%, you have to be actively selling fuel too. Which i don't think, it is correct.

there are many more ideas like training gyms or other buildings proposed but it could be months before they are implemented, currently the main utility is nerfed and this game is decent if you are tier 3 or 4

[ionic wharf]

So I am closing on leveling up the buildings, only level 6 left to upgrade for max. On that level my fuel extractor ( I have one of each) will generate 50 fuel every 24 h, so to do one t3 run I will have to wait almost a month to achieve it. Very sad.

[mossy sorrel]

@whole spearhey man, you there?

[whole spear]

Yessir

[mossy sorrel]

need to talk to you about a vulnerability in the system

can we talk somewhere in private?

[whole spear]

You can dm me

[mossy sorrel]

sent request

[whole spear]

Didn’t get one

[mossy sorrel]

hm..

[whole spear]

Be careful of scammers

Oh got it

[low river]

Doubth this is going to stay like this forever. The numbers will be increase when the game has more demand (common sence)

[vivid cipher]

Use either of the two mobile apps to buy coins to pay for another builder.

Or just get enough by playing enough.

[full plume]

Hello I am brand new to the game and so far I really love the artwork and idea. I'm so tired of the clash of clans or mass crusades type game.

Of course there are flaws here like the converters and shapes of maps but it's fun so far.

Anyway I wanted to know how to get the additional builders. I have 66 of the hexagon tokens and it says I need 120 to train additional engineers

[vivid cipher]

There’s a lot of pinned posts in this channel that you may find helpful.

[vivid cipher]

Use either of the two mobile apps to buy coins to pay for another builder.

[misty rock]

Is our level Cap at 201?

[full plume]

Okay I'm on PC so I will try my phone TY

[vivid cipher]

Ah. Can’t do it on pc.

[vivid cipher]

Yes. For now at least.

[west elk]

how do I increase singularity scanner efficiency?

[full plume]

Got it TY 😊

So next question how do we use the fuel and resources we obtain here in the other games?
I think each fuel retails for a fraction of a $0.01 🪙...
Does it allow your big character to fly to the different world etc?

[vivid cipher]

Try moving one when looking at the efficiency filter.

You’ll see that the scanner needs to be farther from most other buildings to improve its efficiency

[west elk]

max will be 100?

[vivid cipher]

You can only sell the fuel you make in the zero game if you own the land plot that you use in zero.

[vivid cipher]

Yes

[west elk]

ty

[full plume]

That looks cool but I use the streets for the % bonus...
Your desert looks much cooler naturally tho.
Like those solar arrays

[deep granite]

i finished it, this is with paths

[full plume]

Okay how do I own it? Do I have to register or buy the serial number?
Sorry for the ELI5 questions...

[full plume]

If you don't sell the fuel, I saw on a video using the same fuel symbols in another game. So I thought we would carry the fuel over to other games.

[vivid cipher]

You have to buy a land that is for sale on the IlluviDex. That costs real money.

[full plume]

So Illuvium Zero was the industrial and the Illuvium world's is where we use the fuel

[vivid cipher]

Not unless you own the land.

[full plume]

So we're in a tutorial mode. And it's just for decorating. We can't walk into the other games.

[vivid cipher]

Here’s one for sale. https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x9e0d99b864e1ac12565125c5a82b59adea5a09cd/3189

I suspect there are plenty of lands for sale.

[fiery iris]

same

[vivid cipher]

Not quite. It’s a free to play version. It’s a virtual version. Not creating anything real because you don’t own anything real.

Can still be used to complete missions that can earn airdrop points.

[full plume]

That would be challenging. Like that "don't starve" game.
I guess you would get to use the converters to get enough water to live?

[full plume]

Okay so we can't link our account to the other games and use the fuel to fly around? Or can we and we just don't make $?

[full plume]

That I'd very nice

[vivid cipher]

No fuel outside of zero unless you own the land that is producing it. Or unless you BUY the fuel.

At the moment no one can use the fuel from zero in overworld even if they do own the land. That feature has not yet been implemented.

[full plume]

Oh okay np WIP

I will just chill until they figure it out. Maps will probably get lost or wiped anyway.
Very vivid artwork and refreshing concepts.

[vivid cipher]

The buildings should not be reset again.

[full plume]

Good 👍
I bought the second builder and it is fun.
TY 🙏

[vivid cipher]

Transferring the land to a different passport account would remove the builder. Just a heads up.

[full plume]

How is the Pokémon game going with the axolotl and the snakes and drones.

[full plume]

So if I like my main and don't want to move to a purchased land is the starter home a simulation and there are only so many real lands?

[full plume]

So never change my Google account got it

[vivid cipher]

If I understand what you are asking… yes. There are currently only 20,000 real lands. With possibly only ever 100,000 existing if the other 80,000 ever get sold.

[vivid cipher]

#🎮〕illuvium-overworld is pretty fun

[full plume]

Ah like "inflation control" and to help get everyone invested to do the work.

[full plume]

Yes it looks fun. I only saw one clip

[full plume]

Hey it might become the next fortnight who knows? 🤷‍♂️💯

[vivid cipher]

Ha

[full plume]

Well thank you for the clarification have a great night.

[vivid cipher]

Remember that no one legitimate will be sending you DMs. Plenty of scammy impersonators will try that.

[lethal wyvern]

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[next juniper]

Does anyone know if the limit of 5 scanners and 5 research labs was always the limit before the update when they reduced the fuel?🤔

[vivid cipher]

I do not know for sure but I really think so

[noble willow]

not yet. It is apparently coming

[next juniper]

I hope so. Didn’t get to building them til recently. Would suck if the limit was put in with the patch😕

[noble willow]

but I'd like the ability to change the colour of the buildings based on the type for ease of use. I'm old, playing on a phone it's super difficult to identify some of what's where on a full plot.

[noble willow]

It's actually rad. I like it way more than I thought I would

[full plume]

That's a good idea. And also being able to farm and terraform the area around the map would be good.

Lol before the city sinks into lava

[noble willow]

has anyone suggested, or is it possible and I've just missed it, for there to be push notifications around the queue?

[fickle jetty]

Hello, is the current Illuvium Zero game a test version? Does that mean I will lose my current country in the future?

[polar cosmos]

Its on mainnet, there is no more resets

[plucky venture]

Q1: Good question.
Q2: No. Progress will continue.

[burnt viper]

It's live, but everything inside of it can change any time or week 😂

can't wait until the new hire provide us a zero roadmap

[fierce pollen]

Is anyone else experiencing fuel extractors that aren't actually doing anything, even though its got power and resources to starts the excavation? I've had one specific Crypton Extractor not work for about a week. I end up canceling the production and re starting but nothing ever comes of it - the green circle timer doesn't even work.

[solar swallow]

When there were issues with fuel exchange around 1pm CET yday anyone else got their transactions stucks and still pending?

were there some info about those issues?

[slim ice]

My second solon dredge on a T2 is not producing anything, it gives experience and takes the 550k silicon but doesn't give any solon after the 12 hours

[slim ice]

Can I ping you for this @verbal igloo ? Idk if you are aware of the issue yet

[rare jasper]

what can I do with addition fuel for holders ? is there only option to use it in overworld ? I cannot sell it or use it in lands

[solar swallow]

Go to activities and if You see pause icon instead of play icon where the progress circle is that means that there is not enough power

It is just not displayed as power shortage for some reason on main map

[edgy sorrel]

I agree, the same happened to me for an hydrogen pump

[plucky venture]

Fine, fine ... I'll buy the ugliest dog.

[minor pagoda]

😂

Poor landmark

[solar swallow]

solon entrepreneur

[vocal pasture]

Nothing that 12 solon converters wont fix 😛

[fierce pollen]

Yes, now imagine trying to play a land with a specific landmark that has no fuel sites to match. Just relying on fuel converters to generate that fuel, which has been slashed by 75%. Almost impossible to play now 🙄

[fierce pollen]

Yeah its not that. It's definitely got enough power. Some sort of bug I think

[livid igloo]

Is there anyway of sending my fuel from IZ to Overworld? Or do I just have to sell it?

[minor pagoda]

Costs have been slashed accordingly right? Where are you finding the main hurdles compared to hurdles before?

[burnt viper]

Not really, most costs are the same, so is nexus while fuel production is x4. Imagine doing the effort and spending time to get 150% efficency and 15 fuels per day, to now having to adapt to 126% and 6 Fuels per day. Nexus costs are still the same, so i need to wait longer still while playing in a punished mode of zero lol

[plucky venture]

If you're into that sort of thing ...

[plucky venture]

As of today, you still have to sell it. Sounds like they will be fixing it, soon.

[fierce pollen]

So it seems that using a fuel converter with a matching landmark doesn't give any additional boost. It just seems a flat rate of 1 to 1 ?

My land seems to be massively slacking on Solon now since the update, when before it was very even between the fuels. (I have a solon trench landmark - with no solon trench fuel sites). So I only rely on solon converters.

[pearl marten]

@minor pagoda Hi Perry
Could you share some research/scanning details if they have been nerfed?
I mean in the past 3 days or so seems that the chance of findind biodata and especially researching a BP has been decreased

4 Labs researching the same BP with already 4 facts about that specific biodata has returned nothing for 3 days (and it's a T1 illuvial) seems pretty drastic to me
Isn't the chance of findind something increasing with every failed research plus facts bonus?

[plucky venture]

The resource landmarks do buff converters. Not sure on fuel landmarks. Although, as you can see above, imma find out.

[burnt viper]

Probably better to sell, it sounds like, if they add transfer, they will limit the transfer amount or tax you for transferring

[plucky venture]

I think this is just while the player base is small.

[burnt viper]

I think they believe in general, that it is too OP and takes too much money from the DAO for Land owner to produce and use their own fuels

[plucky venture]

They might, but that's really, really stupid over the long run.

If the player base can't grow past the # of landowners, we're all bag holders.

[burnt viper]

I highly doubt there is 7,923 (unique wallets holding lands) land owners, that are active, with maxed plots and will also play overworld

[clever comet]

how many L-Crypton Colider can i build? What is the maximum number?

[minor pagoda]

If Nexus costs are the same that is def a bug

[livid igloo]

Cheers

[minor pagoda]

Why was it not slacking before and it is slacking now though? Relative to the costs of a building the conversion amounts actually increased

[solar swallow]

5% chance for BP if im not mistaken at last this is what tooltip says

[noble drum]

What does upgrading a “data bank” get you?

[minor pagoda]

BP chances have not been tweaked, same for scanning

[plucky venture]

Exactly. They need to start simplifying. They are imagining this rich ecosystem of games and all these great market interactions, but TBH, it would be better just to put effort into improving the game experience. Finish the Arena. Make collecting the Illuvials interesting, then fix the economy and land and fuel around that. Arena was always supposed to be the "anchor" product, the eSport, etc. It's fine to have that be wildly complicated with classes and synergies and all that stuff. But everything around it is too complex for the state of these three games. It can always be made more complicated, later. Starting out this complicated has, I think, made producing all three of these games much harder than it had to be. Just my opinion, but I'm more convinced the road to getting better starts with making things easier, not more complex.

[fierce pollen]

I have no idea. These are my current fuels! Solon is now falling massively behind, when before the update they were all very equal.

[burnt viper]

💯 I literally said the same thing in #1274080051029086319 message

This whole 95% could have been a temporary DAO reduction instead of punishing active players

[solar swallow]

The only thing about researching is that You can change between drone and armour skin, im pretty sure most of people are not aware of that

[plucky venture]

Yeah, I was reading that thread, as well as the "fusion fuel" thread. There are too many MacGuffins for the state of the game. It took Runescape and EQ and WoW ages to have this many moving parts. People had to get used to the world, the mechanics, etc. The learning curve here for each game is way steeper than competing games. Arena is orders of magnitude more complex than say Hearthstone. Zero is not a great city builder and makes Zero Sense without the ecosystem. The Overworld has some flashes of brilliance, and the art and level design are top notch. But the game mechanics feel rough and raw and detached from the "Pokemon experience" that I think they were going for.

Each game has to get more approachable. Either longer tutorial ramps or more intuitive interfaces/actions or simplified mechanics. As much as I'm worried about my land investments, I did just torch another $6k on a T4, today. (That's almost 1/3 of what I paid for a T3 on auction day ... so at least I'm drastically lowering my break-even.)

A rich experience comes from smooth and long-running interactions, not just complexity. And right now, I feel like that complexity is a bit of a proxy for, "See, we have a long way to go and this will be a rich experience." It should be the other way around. Start small. Release often. Build on top of each season with a small handful of solid features. Iteration and evolution win out over moon shots and revolution every time in software.

[solar swallow]

When i was trying to buy crypton yday and my transactions werent going thru this is what i got today morning. All 3 are stuck (even when i really had cash for maybe only for 2 of those on passport). Should i report it or this will fix itself with time?

[plucky venture]

Report it, anyway. No harm, there.

They are having some ongoing minting issues, atm. I'm not sure to what extent fuel is related as I haven't sold any fuel, today.

[solar swallow]

Its still not fixed? I had issue with getting shards yday

i hope they will be available at evening so i can play some 😄

[plucky venture]

No, that's still going on, last I checked.

[burnt viper]

Very few games are able to pull off a "No man sky" and come back from a bad release, and constants good solid upgrades,. With the release, the state of the gaming industry and how players are, they are quick to jump into another game or not play at all, and will be heavily relucant to try a game which has either bad reviews or make them leave.

[young nacelle]

This is a lot 😯

[plucky venture]

I think anyone we make leave is gone for good. I agree, there.

As to "No man's sky," I'm not as sure. This is a game that I was not going to be too depressed about until the 2nd land sale and 2nd set of Illuvials. We are a LONNNNG way from those events, right now. As someone who sold a few binders of Magic cards in 2000 for $1,000 ... let's just say not every game needs to be immediately and permanently engaging. It can grow slowly, but it does need to keep growing. And right now, I think the core downside is that complexity and learning curve. It's hard to attract new players, even to free-to-play, if the game is just so much more difficult than any of it's peers.

[low river]

uff you only have cryton deposist and not a single solon one for the fallen star.

[turbid plank]

about biodata, is their a way to have a better chance than 5% for drone and armor scan thing once you found one ? thanks a lot

[light oriole]

Hi there, sorry in advance if this is a stupid question. I play on a "free" land plot and just got to Nexus VII. Is there any way for us with "free" plots to use the fuel we gather in Overworld?

[last tiger]

No brother only if you have a land nft

[light oriole]

So if my main focus of playing Zero is to gather resources for Overworld, I can just forget about it? Is there then any way for me to be able to "level up" (go to higher tier zones than 0) in Overworld other than buying fuel or a land plot?

If that's the case, isn't it a lost cause for "real" F2P in Illuvium?

[last tiger]

Yeah u need to buy fuel or land but atm depending on the tier of the land it's not making a lot o fuel

Imo playing the f2p plot is a waste of time

It's there just for those that don't have land know how it feels like

Most of us bought lands 2 years ago

[light oriole]

I totally agree, if that's the case why would anyone play it? It "closes" the game off for anyone F2P, making the only players ones who have their own land plot - and why would they buy resources?

[last tiger]

The good news is now u can get some lands way way cheaper cuz some people paid 20 eth for some

[atomic zealot]

Cuz land barely produces any fuel.

[atomic zealot]

Land is not worth anything these days

Being sold for way too much

[last tiger]

In your case I would only play OW stage 0 and maybe u got some luck and catch something rare to sell to reinvest on the runs but it's very hard

I do stage 1 and 2 and it's hard

[regal magnet]

\

[last tiger]

Plus the market is losing value

I can't use your illuviums in the arena from what I know

[last tiger]

Didn't check the prices today

[atomic zealot]

This killed me...what's the point of collecting. The free packs they have are over powered

[simple dove]

Hey all, these bioscanners, any tips for them? Can I sit them right next to each other?

[cinder fractal]

You mean singularity scanner?

[simple dove]

That's it, singularity scanner. We need to have a PowerPlant next to each one too, right?

[cinder fractal]

Yes put them somewhere on the edge away from other buildings but they need a power plant next to them

[simple dove]

Is there an info sheet on all of the buildings? Needing one for the singularity scanner.

Does it matter how close other singularity scanners are near them?

[cinder fractal]

Also you can't put them next to each other, I mean you can but it will affect their efficiency

[simple dove]

I can't see anything showing the efficiency change when I put them next to them.. the converters I can. Not the scanners though. Any tips? How many blocks away?

[cinder fractal]

Does anyone know if we can do something with blueprints? I got 2 of them so far

[cinder fractal]

Just leave the efficiency button and move them around you will see where is the best place,

[simple dove]

Ahh, okay thanks mate

Should I connect roads to them? Does that interfere with efficiency?

[cinder fractal]

Yeah definitely connect them with a road

[light oriole]

Which free packs?

[simple dove]

Thanks mate, I'f they're running in the high 90 percent range is that good? Does it just change the chances of getting a blueprint?

[cinder fractal]

I have only 3with 100% they can only find you biodata, for blueprints and facts you need material labs I found how is better to have more of them

Once you find biodata you research them in the lab

[empty path]

Damn still bugged on level 201?

[slate merlin]

Can someone explain these red down arrows to me? I have 150% efficiency on most of these fuel converters (first image). But when I click one of the fuel converters (second image) ALL of the fuel converters I have, show down arrows with -30% or -60%. Why? What does this negative % refer to? All buildings have enough power.

[vocal pasture]

Means that the crypton collider selected has its efficiency affected by any o those in proximity by -30% / -60% efficiency (that can be recovered/countered by power stations I think)

[cinder fractal]

Anyone knows?

[slate merlin]

150% efficiency is the maximum possible, and I already have that on several of the converters (image 1), so why is there any negative %?

[still wadi]

there should be a "Do not show this again button"

[cinder fractal]

If you have multiple number of same convertors they will decrease efficiency but you have enough powerplants so you are at the max no matter of that decrease

[vocal pasture]

because your converter can have a -30% or -60% reduction due to proximity to others, while having + xx% gain in proximity of a power station. All summed and subtracted can capped at 150% give you 150%. Good work 😉

if you stick 12 converters in a t4, even spread out, will will be very hard to get them to 180% because of that for instance

if you put 2 equal converters side by side, even with power plants spammed all around, the same goes true

[atomic zealot]

There's free teams you can play with in arena

[cinder fractal]

What's the limiting factor for material labs I noticed how I can't build the 6th one

Any other building I still can

[solar swallow]

First full screen of BioData

[junior depot]

So it is possible to get the same biodata

[solar swallow]

They fixed it with recent patches

Only 2 on top are duplicated

The bottom one is s2

[simple dove]

Okay, so how many labs per scanner do you reckon?

[cinder fractal]

I don't know I can't build more than 5 labs, I'm trying to find out what's the reason

[pearl marten]

Does it seem to you too lately that biodata/research is less successful? Although they said nothing has changed in terms of %

[simple dove]

Is there much point having a podarium?

[pearl marten]

Current cap is 5 scanners and 5 labs per plot.. it's just how the team has designed it for now

[solar swallow]

It's 5% for research and effectiveness of Your scanner depends on placement

[cinder fractal]

Thanks I guessed so, any idea if we can do something with blueprints

[pearl marten]

Yeah i know that i have about 30 biodata myself... just recently it's much more difficult it seems to find something... especially if you have more facts on a specific thing it should be easier

My scanners/labs are at 100% ..only 1 is at 85

[pearl marten]

At the moment no. Blueprints aren't implemented yet (option to mint them)

[cinder fractal]

Maybe the more you have harder is to find something new, because we can't collect duplicates

But I'm assuming the system is recognizing duplicates like we didn't get anything

[cinder fractal]

So if multiple people have the same blueprint only the first one to mint it will have it?

[pearl marten]

Might be.. but that doesn't answer the BP research issue.. it should be easier to get a BP as you gather more facts

[cinder fractal]

More facts should definitely make it easier to find maybe you were just on the bad side of variation

[pearl marten]

No. Everyone that gets a BP will be able to mint it
What i m worried about is the fact that you can research the same biodata again and again giving you the option to make duplicates

[pearl marten]

Hmm.. 4 labs research the same thing for 3 days and i have 4 facts about it... and they haven't found anything new

[cinder fractal]

Interesting so if I continue to research the same biodata for armor after finding the blueprint I can still get the same one

I thought how it will always be something new

[cinder fractal]

Variation can be a bich

If there is 10% chance to find a blueprint with all the facts that's still 30% chance per lab to find it after a 3days definitely possible not to get it with 4 you are just unlucky so far

And I'm just guessing maybe the chance is lower than 10% with all the facts

[pearl marten]

Yeah 100% .. we don't know what's the bonus to % for each fact... hope we get some rough estimates soon

[solar swallow]

I didnt really pay attention, but i guess that depends on how it works, if it first check for success rate and then chose from the pool and if the pool has duplicates in it and it wont give You anything if there was duplicate chosen then probably its possible

[thorny crater]

How many storages does everyone have?

I’m thinking of going from 2-3 to just 1 soon.

I got two atlas drone skins lol

T3

But my t2 has zero luck lol

No BPs

I only have like 3-4 facts and not of the same mons

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-how-it-works-eric-cartman-south-park-s5e6-cartmanland-gif-21984543

[quiet heath]

Does anybody knows if I start a conversion on the fuel converters if I loose the passive fuel that has been accumulated

[tribal blaze]

Great Q. Not sure

I’d assume it would still be there

The balancing of prices in zero is still so messed up. Why does it cost so much fuel just to upgrade a resource storage for only 400k more storage space? It’s not even that much of an increase. Now I’m incentivized to just build a ton of lower level storages so I don’t waste fuel on unbalanced upgrades like this

[knotty sable]

Crazy to see land under $200 🤯

[hazy tartan]

Boost is almost always more than advertised in my experience just upgraded from 5-6 and got advertised a 200k increase but it went up 400k

Probably nearly a mill increase from that

[mortal smelt]

well the new web2 game wukong was completed with 50 million and is the number 1 game as of rn...

need to start poaching

[hazy tartan]

First Pre-alpha gameplay (which was immaculate) was 2020, that game had 4 years of incredible hype pre release

I remember being excited about it in 2022

[mortal smelt]

true

[hazy tartan]

Also, probably gonna be endless gameplay hours for a $60 price point

[mortal smelt]

which is the big takeaway

[hazy tartan]

One of the few rare games worth it nowadays

There’s about 3 a year worth the money

[mortal smelt]

but its just incredible with the amount of funding that it needed, they squeezed every last bit of work from the devs for sure

[ocean haven]

not really, u could see it coming a loooong time #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[mortal smelt]

eh when things ramp up price will go back up, people are just impatient

but each their own

[minor pagoda]

T1 Land Owners load your woes unto me, outside of the fuel output supply cut, what main gameplay hurdles are most frustrating in your experience

[mortal smelt]

the decision to sell fuel or build out the plot is probably the most frustrating

[uneven pulsar]

in zero? or?

[minor pagoda]

yes zero

[ocean haven]

best bet we got is an ALT coin cycle within the next 10 month, wich could happen

[minor pagoda]

Don't want to muddy the water too much but looking for answers such as "Mine Stage 6 is impossible, too much X or Y needed"

[hazy tartan]

Honestly going from f2p lowkey a haven to the slums of t1 without knowing how different the two truly are

F2p doesn’t prepare you for anything below t3

[mortal smelt]

tbh you should already know the issues

[spare veldt]

Time to convert the fuel. With the nerf, there’s no real additional fuel being created so it would be nice if the time required to convert was cut down.

[minor pagoda]

I should ask if we could get a custom emote "Squizz of the Slums" for T1s that got to Nexus 9 or so in the first Season lol

[hazy tartan]

Saved a lot on no physical game, also did some shady stuff for content creators it seems, just saw some ign article saying they gave some a game code and nda saying they can’t discuss specific topics during the streaming of the game

[junior depot]

I think you’re already aware of the issue, but if you could reduce the time it takes to generate passive income, that would be great, even if the increase is small. It would allow us to harvest more frequently and keep up with other lands.

[uneven pulsar]

1. Need to add in activity - mine is not using at this moment.
2. A lot of power stations for achieving 20% path in land
3. After buying land some buildings aren't working - not harvest, not move, no tsell
4. Beter filter - like select resources and stage - should show only resoures mine + stage (now I see all buildings with stage and resources)

[hazy tartan]

Would be a fun little thing that would atleast put a smile on a few faces lol

But I agree with @junior depot The passive end of things is absolutely brutal with these nerfs

[minor pagoda]

Don't assume I am 100% aware of all the issues, I have ideas on it but nothing all-encompassing

[hazy tartan]

Even just the loss of that plus 1 from convert did a number on productivity of t1, coupled with no passive gains in sight having a converter is almost a waste of space outside of once every 4 days getting 1 fuel

[minor pagoda]

Yeah that's a big one on the radar, nothing resource-related? Is that silky smooth for T1? Are all hurdles fuel-based?

[hazy tartan]

Almost all fuel based for me, I have a very unbalanced lot with 3 hydrogen and 1 crypton, convert on resources is pretty good for me and doesn’t really require much looking at from my end, most of us sit at max a lot on resources but fuel on the other end nearly almost always near 0 with upgrades

[junior depot]

To be honest, I really enjoy playing ZERO, even with the recent nerfs. However, I’m still hoping that we could at least sell something in the market while waiting for additional features.

[minor pagoda]

Glad to hear 🙂

[hazy tartan]

The one positive I can pull from the nerf though was I do believe it will incentivize properly upgrading over rushing to a degree, like I’d have rushed t8 but actually need to upgrade some stuff prior on the fuel end of things now

[junior depot]

Oh, and why not reinstate the marketplace we had before, where we could trade with other ZERO players? That would be great!

[minor pagoda]

Moreso looking for short term adjustments we can do via tuning, I'm not skilled enough to implement a marketplace 😦

[quiet heath]

One thing need to be said, yes the nerf was brutal, but I was selling fuel from T1 early on which overall from my experience de-value the t3 t4

• I own T1 - T2 - T4 and given the difference in price is somewhat justified

[quaint elbow]

In T1 Land, there is only one fuel site, and it takes 6 to 12 hours (12 solon in stage 4) to produce fuel (considering the latest patch). This means that crossing over to the Overworld for decent travel might take a month or two.

For new players, expecting interoperability between Zero and Overworld could be a lengthy process, potentially leaving them stuck in stage 0.

This also leaves an option to purchase fuels in the fuel exchange instead, than play Zero.

[pseudo pulsar]

the main disadvantage for me is too many nerfs change of strategy constantly slows me down not rate % of fuel

[junior depot]

We had a building before. That we can sell excess resources. Not Fuel

[barren pier]

Agree that fuel is the main bottleneck at the higher stages. I have a Nexus 8 Tier 1, and I sit at capped resources that have no way to burn, as I wait for my 1 source of fuel generation and then to instantly convert it and wait some more

[round harbor]

@minor pagoda There seems to be a bug with passive conversion on crypton converters at level 6. The upgrade to level 6 does not seem to increase the passive conversion. On hyperion converters the number is increased (at least on t2 lands, see screenshots). Do you know if this a real bug or just a problem with the tooltip?

[pseudo pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-scary-face-pernalonga-bugs-gif-22925569

[quaint elbow]

While other high-tier Lands celebrate their fuel abundance, T1 Land faces even greater challenges. Considering there’s only one fuel site, perhaps additional boost would be fair.

[cunning sundial]

hi, why singularity scanner dose not find any bio data?

[pseudo pulsar]

@quaint elbow boost be fair its only a selling point if not all tier land is offered a %

[minor pagoda]

I know there's a tooltip issue, but I'll try make sure for you there's not a actual value issue

[quiet heath]

Would be possible to have a signal on the passive total so that you know when you will be able to collect so you can better plan ahead?

[pseudo pulsar]

@cunning sundial % is why

[quaint elbow]

what tier are you playing? T1 land can have a boost since it only have 1 fuel site anyway.

if granted

[hazy tartan]

Don’t collect for as long as possible, , let it fill lol, this converter is one of the last of a dying breed able to actually make passive

[quiet heath]

Well aware I am waiting till full,

Then it will drop to a mere 6 per 288 hours hahahah

[cunning sundial]

its 100%

[quaint elbow]

I dunno why people keep selling their T1 lands... but a friend has same sentiment. they have tried zero and they just decide not to play it anymore, they just can't wait. waiting is what killing the game

[burnt viper]

That's if they allow us to transfer, without taxing us or reducing it because we choose to transfer

[pseudo pulsar]

I have2 T-1 lands i am pro boost for T1s if other 2 are offered that is ..

[hazy tartan]

It’s brutal lmfao, I collected literally minutes before update dropped 🫠

[quaint elbow]

Yeah, providing just one boost for T1 could serve as a consolation for its struggles.

[pseudo pulsar]

@cunning sundial capture rate is different from plot rate plot rate is production so 100% is not 100%

[quaint elbow]

🫂 Give T1 a boost.

[cunning sundial]

im new to game ,have nexus vii can you share a map?

[hazy tartan]

150% is now effectively 100% for t1, before it was like 110% where we got something anything of value for maxing efficiency, now we just get breakeven

[minor pagoda]

What about the interplay of efficiency and converters? Are people rushing to get them to 150% within building limit feasibility? Is the passive gen so low that you can't even feel it or are people using the "round up" on the low numbers a lot?

[hazy tartan]

It leaves a very much “is it in yet” vibe, so can’t see or feel much at all, and without any actual incentive like a bonus 1 from 150% there’s no reason to go to 150% just to the x% needed at that level to break even

[junior depot]

It's so slow that you barely notice there's anything to collect. lol

[minor pagoda]

😂

[hazy tartan]

Hamster gonna give you some good insight @minor pagoda

[barren pier]

It’s easy enough to pump all converters up to 150% within build limits, but to the same extent as the point made above, you don’t need to. It’s like leaving a piece of the game mechanic unused because you can just stay at the lowest viable % to avoid loss

[minor pagoda]

I get it for the lower stage converters due to the low integers, but it's more of a thing as you get to Stage 3/4 converters or nah?

[pseudo pulsar]

I use passive to fill in fuel i need to build on if you take 1 or wait till it completes are you still getting the same passive percent ?

[barren pier]

I have yet to have any experience with the higher level converters on my little T1. I haven’t found that the plot outputs enough fuel to need to convert at the higher batch quantities. Maybe someone else could comment on how those feel.

[burnt viper]

I really liked the whole +1 fuel on 150% fuel convertion. It felt like I evolved into a higher industrial stage lmao

[pseudo pulsar]

@barren pier i have 3 ec converters on t1 few at level 2 to save time to upgrade

Time is money

[cunning sundial]

can someone share his map?

[radiant sky]

which converters you talking about? Those which produce less than they should, those which produce what they should or those which produce more than they should? 😜

[minor pagoda]

current ones

[dense bane]

how do you guys complete daily quests if you don't have all the resources nodes in the plot?

[quaint elbow]

Can we have a detailed view showing the time of what's really left? example: (12 hours - 4 hours bonus from upgrade) minus 11% time path bonus. Currently, it only shows the undeducted 12 hours. It might be helpful to the number-people (people who likes to see numbers) to actually see what's going on with the efficiency and -time bonus gain.

Just here to take this chance to share my feedback. I'm still hopeful for this game anyway. And I'll be looking forward for any progress.

[radiant sky]

that one i like, he's a hustler... should produce 3/288h and is already on 6 half way through... i call him bob.
more converter's should be like bob

[hazy tartan]

Collect it and have your heart broken like the rest of us

[minor pagoda]

Set 2 Illuvial confirmed

[radiant sky]

this one i don't like too much... should also produce 3/288h didn't got me one yet... call him lazy steeve 😄

[radiant sky]

if you wana imply i don't get those 6. idk yet.
just collected one on another plot and got the over production.

[minor pagoda]

what does the tooltip say for this one?

[hazy tartan]

You’ll get THIS overproduction, then begins hell week and two lazy steves

[radiant sky]

for both

[minor pagoda]

Right, I see the info that's missing which is confusing, this is actually very helpful

[radiant sky]

what info?

[minor pagoda]

The amount of cycles

[wary skiff]

Hi, i have a bug. I just upgrade a solon extractor to level 3, but now, it don't harvest. I can launch it, my extractor si full of energy, but the time don't progress. Why ?

(I tried to cancel and relaunch, it don't change)

[radiant sky]

having an actual timer could help out a lot.
like show the 288h ticking down and additionally a cycle timer ticking down.
filling border looks cool, but the information value is not so good.

[wary skiff]

Is full of energy

It's a T4

I can't send screen but everything is good, and an other solon just near to this one work well

It's not a game issue, it's a bug

I tried to overpower, but it change nothing

[fickle loom]

What is the advantage for higher tiers scanner and material labs?

[radiant sky]

have you tried to move the converter itself or the powerstations powering him up?
It helped with scanners before to get the activity going.
would be nice if you report bug ingame 🙂

[wary skiff]

It's an extractor, and yes i tried

I already report the bug in game 🙂

[radiant sky]

oh, that's unfortunate

[wary skiff]

Okay it works, i upgrade a power statio near to it, and now it works

Maybe it's a bug of power UI ?

BRO

I DID IT

IT'S A BUG, NOT MY FAULT

It's not a game issue, IT'S A BUG

My extractor was FULL OF ENERGY

Damn

[fickle loom]

relax 🌻 🌞

[wary skiff]

Okay sorry

But yes, i checked the power, and the UI show okay

[thorny crater]

its just biodata but LETSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS GOOOO

[light oriole]

What can one use biodata for?

[thorny crater]

Bps

Blue prints

[light oriole]

I really don't understand that some converters get less effective when they are close to other certain buildings... Does anyone have an overview or anywhere where one might read more about the rules that apply?

[thorny crater]

Which make skins, or you can sell the bp itself. Not fully implement yet

[light oriole]

So skins for existing illuvials?

[thorny crater]

Yes so you can’t stack converters.

[thorny crater]

Drone armor and body armor

Skins for illuval would be dope tho

Let me get you the guides link

[light oriole]

How stack? Different kind of converters? So best to keep the different types separated, or?

[thorny crater]

#💬〕general message

Filter for % efficiency. It’s a learn as you go aspect as of now.

Ok back to work. I’ll be on later

[light oriole]

Tyvm for your answers! I'll give it a read 👍

[tribal blaze]

Upgrade costs don’t seem properly balanced, some things seem to cost way too much fuel still. Here’s my example of going to level VII storage costing 40 total fuel to get +400k of a resource.

[foggy bison]

I know, ridiculous. I stopped at Level VI on all my T1 silos and went with three each instead of two. Two each was my original plan.

And tbh, I only have one Level VI of each silo, the other two are still at Level V. Puts me at 1.1m per element, which is good for now.

Fuel has become waaaay too precious now.

[thorny crater]

I think it was alway off imo lol
I made 3 and now ith my nexus finally on its way to 9 i think i can delete 2 of each resource stoagre and still have 9 mill each

I lie

ill need 2

so delet 1 each lol

[tribal blaze]

@minor pagoda @thorny crater zero still seems to be balanced towards quantity over high level which I think is a poor design decision. This is also particularly evident with power stations which has been discussed at length and I proposed a change in the feedback ideas that the team recognized and acknowledged. But I’m finding it to be true in other areas of the game as well such as storages and converters. And just in general it doesn’t feel like each thing costs about the same range to upgrade. Some things I go to upgrade and the cost just seems way off for what it’s doing.

[thorny crater]

i feel that haha

https://tenor.com/view/improvise-adapt-overcome-bear-grylls-gif-10468556

i do the survival man

so i focus on fuel/resources mainly...once it start to pile up i upgrade nexus/quantum/engineer buildings

for my t1s i mainly just focus nexus only lol

i just collect and convert to hypes if needed. then once they are lvl 8 ill focus on buildings.

but thats my strategy. is it the best? i have no clue haha

oh max fuels tho on t1s

example this t1 i need to update the fuel, need one more hyp, then ill do nuxes next:

just 5 more hours for that hype xD

well 6 cause i started dredging again

[foggy bison]

My T1 Nexus Level VIII upgrade will complete in 4 hours. I might try to get up to 4 each of the converters, but the passive cut was nasty.

[thorny crater]

yeah i only do converter as needed. like im start to have a lot of extra fuel

[cerulean nest]

Does anybody know the going rate for crypton today? They've started blocking VPNs again for the website and I don't want to split-tunnel for my browser

[thorny crater]

cause 3 for 34 at about 105% is cool

[minor pagoda]

We still recognize and acknowledge the power station problem, just takes a little more than just tuning
Storage (for lower tiers) and converters are definitely "quantity buildings" to a degree, could you elaborate why you think that's a poor design decision?
Will def have a look at the fuel cost of resource storage though

[thorny crater]

but at higher lvls that % needs to be at 130% ish to be a 1:1

so unless i have extra fuel it is not worth it. Also this. usually at this stage i get 1-4 not it just stays 0, and idk when the passive feature actually takes effect anymore:

it was at 113% but i just moved the power station cause the passive thing is different. and i need hype. so just went to converts 1:1 instead of doing any passive aspect at all

also delete a solon converter cause it just wasn't worth it./ I had 1 to many

[vivid cipher]

That might be a nice quality of life feature

[foggy bison]

This is becoming a slight worry for me, too. I was used to seeing something before now. I have six converters with the border at 6 o'clock (halfway around), and they're all at zero still.

[thorny crater]

idk if it is a bug or not so i did not report it

[foggy bison]

I'm just going to wait for now, I'm not ready to scream BUG just yet.

[thorny crater]

smae haha

i was waiting to see others in chat

so far I have only seen you and me talk about it but i cant be here all day

not until i get the job i want = Retired

[livid kestrel]

couple of mine converters also not producing passive fuel, some are already half of the circle

[knotty idol]

anyone have an idea yet of the total illuvial count that we can find scanning?

[thorny crater]

I would gues min at least of 1 of every illuvial for drone and armor

BUT

i found out there are different type of skins for the same illuvial....or thats what i heard anyway.

like drone atlas might have 5 verision, i am guessing, it might be something like common, rare, epic, etc...but i dont know 100% on this

[knotty idol]

im guessing 205, since there are 205 unique lines and type on the market right now

[thorny crater]

better guess than me haha

[radiant sky]

no, afaik t0 biodata can't be found.

[atomic zealot]

How's fuel selling been going, are lands able to sell more than before? Just asking because I've been following fuel sales to dao today and seems slow so far

[thorny crater]

this is how determine my prices:

[noble crag]

hey fam, what's the sense of upgrading scanner/data bank?

[foggy bison]

Since I have never seen a "1" when checking before, I always assumed there might be a minimum of "2" before you could collect, because I had never collected less than that. But you're showing a level II converter, which does 5, so that kind of blows my minimum 2 theory out of the water, because you should have seen 2 by now, right?

[thorny crater]

i used to have 1-4 on the pic i posted. i get 0 now

so passive is not an option for me at all as of today

[foggy bison]

Like you said, I'm a little surprised no one else has said anything

[vivid cipher]

Upgraded scanners can scan higher tier illuvial bio data

[thorny crater]

exhibit A. I never seen anyone else post this biodata before. stage 2 on a lvl 2 scanner

well start reseraching drone tomorrow casue im search axons, if i spelt that right aka atlas stage 2 lol, drone right now

[vivid cipher]

Once it gets over half way I suspect it will say there’s 1. But maybe not…

[foggy bison]

That's my hope. Helping my dad move all day, so I'll know more tonight.

[tribal blaze]

Well this is just my philosophy, but the building is a converter. Its job should be to convert one fuel/resource type to another. It doesn’t seem natural to me that I would want to not level that converter up as I develop my city, but instead build many more “converters” for the sole purpose of passive farming. The rewarding of quantity over high level for a building such as a converter just feels wrong to me, as it pushes the lands to be covered with many of the same type of building, rather than upgrading the level of a few key buildings. I suppose I can see how at early levels that makes more sense to allow you to fill the plots up, but at higher levels I think an intentional game meta of many converters wouldn’t make sense. But just my two cents, idk if others would feel that way as well, I know the passive generation is an important part of the fuel economy. Id just push for it to be more about leveling up fewer converters rather than having 4+ Lower level ones of each type. The punishment of converters being too close hurting efficiency is a great mechanism to control the max number of converters, so it’s just about tuning the return on investment for leveling them up

[vivid cipher]

My level 3 fuel convertor got some at like 1/3 the way around the timer

[thorny crater]

ill let you know in a day or two but this is my furtherst one I am not converting on:

[winter python]

What’s the highest level our property goes too

[thorny crater]

9

[pseudo pulsar]

Next week or so ill be printing blue prints

[spare veldt]

The white text on white icon was an interesting design choice

[livid kestrel]

indeed

[dreamy mist]

Is it possible to print BPs now....what can we do with founded BPs bow??

[hazy tartan]

Used to be 6 cycles so would split circle into 6 equal parts, now 2 cycles up to l3 then it’s 4 cycles so 6 o clock and 12 o clock for a singular fuel collection each

[wary skiff]

Fast question : Do we have a site with all datas off ILV zéro ? And if not, what is the max level of a fuel extractor ? How much it harvest ? On which land ?

[velvet ember]

Do you know how many info can be stored on Data Bank II. because DB1 is worth 30 Solon and can store 5 data but upgrading it DBII is worth 100 Solon, more than 3x the amount. So will its capacity to store also tripled? Because it doesn’t indicate there

[karmic mica]

25 in data bank 2, 55 in data bank 3

[velvet ember]

Thanks man, so it’s worth the upgrade. 👍🏼

[karmic mica]

i think so, yeah

you're welcome 🙂

[foggy bison]

Thank you!

[thorny crater]

where can i find this?

[timber sapphire]

#📣〕announcements

Scroll bit up for zero patch notes

[thorny crater]

sweet thanks!

crazy part i read this already and forgot 😅

[hazy tartan]

Mf keeps auto posting great

Last message I sent is just on sending mode 24/7 and resends the second i open discord 😂

[thorny crater]

i forogt to check it for a bit but just I had listed it when i spoke to you and just look now. it sold:

[thorny crater]

here we go a lvl 5 is working fine it seems:

[atomic zealot]

When we spoke a few days ago? I don't remember, sorry.

[thorny crater]

nope from your response today

[thorny crater]

dis one

this is for one transaction lol

i was showing some coworkers and was't checking prices is why i canceled so much lol

[atomic zealot]

Nice, how long did it take you to make that much fuel?

I'm just curious because th fuel prices wallet isnt going up by much

[nimble lichen]

Crypton selling at $0.0039 maybe higher

[atomic zealot]

What's this picture?

[nimble lichen]

just from my pending fill orders

[full plume]

That is awesome. Quite the beach home

[atomic zealot]

Is that per day?

[full plume]

It's a rather dense cityscape. Have you considered spacing or sending storage to the corner of maps? Also long streets for the 5% bonus

[slate merlin]

I have 3 level II Solon converters that I built the third or 4th day after launch. Having the progress bar now clearly shows that they are NOT producing passive fuel. Can someone from the team advise us about this? Were these converters created with some flaw that would be resolved by selling them and rebuilding? This issue was acknowleged some time ago in a response to my bug report, but there has been silence ever since. Please let us know the status of a fix.

[pseudo pulsar]

@full plume adjusting locations for unaffected buildings as i go . main reason I condense the city is for outer edge space for more attraction for the capture my rd % is at 8% that includes the buildings too

[open stratus]

I saw Stuart say early next week these will be addressed, AFAIK

[nimble lichen]

from T4 yes, from T3 no

[open stratus]

I'm really wondering how the guy I bought the t1 from made level 136. He had no crystal mines and like 1 converter.

[timber sapphire]

Poor man had no idea how to play the game

[hearty cradle]

how to auto repeat fuel extractor

[thorny crater]

thankyou a t3 land is a BANGER

[timber sapphire]

Any maxed t2s with statts?

[thorny crater]

honeslty i do not calculate that.

my goal is to be here for fun not ROI.

so when i have extra i sell, if not i build. OR if i want to do some stage runs i sell then too

[timber sapphire]

Then you are in the right place

[thorny crater]

BUt when i dod calculate that itll be on my t3 first once maxed

ofc course this is a GAME to me. Not an income lol i come here to except from being farmed like an animal aka work. not to work more lol

BUT bc of this chats talks i bout some more land super cheap IMO

[atomic zealot]

Why not play actual good games then? There's a ton on awesome and way funner city builders

On mobo and pc

And free

[open stratus]

I can't wait to be able to produce enough to be selling off some on my t3

[thorny crater]

SIM city games ARE fun to me

[open stratus]

Been playing super casually with 2 builders

Gonna nexus 8 tonight and start optimizing

My t1 is a wreck, gonna take me months

[atomic zealot]

Me too but there's a lot of funner ones for free, just curious why pay so much money for a sub par game with no real hope of getting ROI

[thorny crater]

only takes i have seen in the ZERO chat are the follow:

• those who invested anre are concern about the consumer exp - they know demand will come once this increases. But have concern about fuel, give ideas, creative criticism.
• those who over invested and need money back - hard lesson here
• those here for the ride, enjoying the sells to make "free" OW runs
  vs
• those who only care about their own ROI - these people i don't not care for. minus well be BlackRock IMO
• and then those who talk negative to get people to sell so they can buy land for cheap - also blackrock mind frame

[thorny crater]

I love the concept of digital ownership

i want this game to be so successful that USA corporations like google will try to sue Iluvium so they(google) do not have to pay revenues on that data the collect and sell from us.

but its a dream lol

also this is the only crypto thing i do

[atomic zealot]

So you are hoping for an ROI?

[thorny crater]

i hate crypto

[foggy sage]

if ur selling fuel for anything below the max your just giving it away

[thorny crater]

if i break even awesome. if i gain that is a bonus, if i loose it was a fun bet lol

either way i am having FUN with all this

maybe one day rent out the lower ones, but idk i like Zero lol

invite some peeeps over drink some beers and BBQ and then once every 1 -2 hours, now getting once a day a click a few button then forget

[open stratus]

I'm with you

I'm here for the fun

[atomic zealot]

I like the IDEA of zero but unfortunately even with today's land prices the game makes no sense especially with the studio doing what it's doing but hey man, enjoy the ride.

[open stratus]

Being able to fund my own runs would be a dream

[thorny crater]

I can only do this bc of a t3....i was only able to do that bc ETH doubled with what i had in 2019 with i started putting money into it

so it was timing and luck lol

[open stratus]

Catch that DH banger. Boooooom

[full plume]

Would you refer me to some other good games.

I bought the improved No Mans Sky and modded. Not bad not great. The human players were awful.

[open stratus]

I just yolod into t3 and t1 near bottom

[thorny crater]

t2 will take a bit longer. I f'ed up and was searching to hard for BPs to hard/early

[atomic zealot]

What types of games do you like?

[nimble lichen]

do you think the same thing about the token if it's at a low value or do you think of it as a buying opportunity

[full plume]

I didn't get to deep into some of the Sims game because while I had high hopes the actions were so limited. I wanted a futuristic

[thorny crater]

ff16 coming to steam on sept 17!

[full plume]

I like the building.

[burnt viper]

Pls call 911 for the bullying caused to you by Illuvium lol

[open stratus]

I know it's a temporary fix caused by an incomplete product

[full plume]

I even like real life builders lol. And construction

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-brooklyn-ninenine-b99-smile-gif-11928987

[full plume]

But I just don't want to grind 100 hours with swords. I work soooo many hours

[thorny crater]

and i did the same with my t3 lol 2nd lowest one in the market lol

at the time.

[atomic zealot]

If you were hell bent on being part of the game then token is way less riskier but I can almost guarantee they'll be coming after rev dis too. If prices drop enough I might think about yoloing a few hundred dollars just in case it actually succeeds but it's very unlikely. Point is coin is a better investment than land IMO but token prices are way too over priced right now

[open stratus]

Mine turned out yo be awesome floor purchase. Had all resources and 4x c 1s and 1h

[atomic zealot]

Rim world is a great colony simulator you might want to try

[stoic rapids]

yeah if you want to buy the token, wait until the airdrop bots all cash out

[atomic zealot]

If your into colony sims

[full plume]

Okay I will try it. Thanks

[stoic rapids]

and more VCs have a chance to dump

[nimble lichen]

this month land has been a better investment than the token and if the project were to succeed then land would be a big part of that as well

[atomic zealot]

Let me know if not I can suggest other games

[open stratus]

When this game goes big, land will be yuge

[stoic rapids]

yeah seconding rimworld as an awesome gam

[atomic zealot]

How so?

[stoic rapids]

when this game goes big they'll print more land and dilute us from 5% revenue down to 1%

[nimble lichen]

I've sold more in fuel than I received in Revdis from the token of which I have much more value staked

[full plume]

Do you know any way to do more social building?
Like I bought my time in Portia but it's 1000s hours with swords

[full plume]

They have to... Unless people want to play as starving refugees..
So mathematically they would need some stable coin to hold previous investors stable as new planets are discovered

There are algos which can do that. I write algos.

[atomic zealot]

I would advise against looking at it like that, look at how much you have to pay for land you'll only ever get your money back in like 3 years if the game survives but for a fraction on the cost you can buy tokens that may increase rapidly during a bull run. Plus land is not to be trusted, devs can mess with it like they just did and I can almost guarantee land is the last on their priority list

[full plume]

Like a double commitment protocol

[tall crypt]

Anyone know how obtain silicon by cutting plants

[open stratus]

In no way is this true

[atomic zealot]

You mean multiplayer?

[full plume]

I don't think plants use silicon. A few other microorganisms do

[open stratus]

It's the only lever they could pull to curb supply. While it hurts, rather that than an axie scenario

[atomic zealot]

Which part?

[full plume]

Well I was thinking of No Mans Sky but yes

[stoic rapids]

well they could 4x fuel production, like they divided by 4 😂

[nimble lichen]

you made an assertion that there is no hope in receiving ROI from land. I gave you an example from our first month of launching land and you discount it. I get that it's been a terrible allocation of capital up until now but now moving forward...

[tall crypt]

You haven't idea.

[atomic zealot]

You're taking a snapshot of a moment in time, look at big picture is all I'm suggesting.

[nimble lichen]

your big picture discounts the speculation of the future. Land and Illuvium in general is very speculative.

[stoic rapids]

different plants give different resources

[tall crypt]

Now I cuting a plat:

[full plume]

Unlike animal blood which always has a set chemical composition. Plant chlorophyll has about 8 different chemical types.

[atomic zealot]

Huh? The speculation of land is gone that was during land auction. Hey you asked me a question and I gave you my honest advise. If I HAD to invest in illuvium today it would be either illuvials or token

[full plume]

Yes okay. And is it only made of carbon?

[atomic zealot]

Land is a disaster imo

[open stratus]

I agree at this moment in time

[nimble lichen]

It's not gone.. people who stay or buy in now are still speculating that it could be a good investment. You say there is no hope but that is just an assertion.

[full plume]

We need a terraforming option. Then we could get on a big window command center and overlook the drones terraforming. Like the ships in overwatch

[tall crypt]

Itest another:

[atomic zealot]

Sure ANYTHING is possible but that's imo not a good mindset instead of trying to force something to work look for what works. Land dropped what 90% in price and still dropping?

[full plume]

@atomic zealot what other games do you play we need ideas for UE5

[atomic zealot]

Whose we? Lol

[nimble lichen]

exacty, it's your opinon and obviously not everyone shares your opinion so just enjoy the show either way.

[twin oracle]

Guys I have a Blueprint. How do I see it in my inventory ? Should I do something ?

[atomic zealot]

You asked for my opinion lol but I guess you wanted confirmation

[full plume]

Well you seemed wise and you're a cat. Both good reasons for me to cut you into my algos.
Once I get done with a professional fintech I'll have time to game again.
I haven't gamed in years.

[tall crypt]

must build a ZERO POINT TRANSDUCER sciencie build

[atomic zealot]

There's a ton, really depends on your mood

[nimble lichen]

I would know not to look from confirmation from you if I needed it

[atomic zealot]

Cool man

[twin oracle]

I did the build, but it have no action. How to proceed?

look

this is the blueprint

[full plume]

I would like to hear your honest opinion on potential for building and social games to outperform those old call of duty games.

[twin oracle]

But I can't find in my profile

[full plume]

🙏

[atomic zealot]

Rivals to call of duty? That's tough cuz it's so arcady and I don't like that but hell let loose is a very fun military simulator that's very social

[full plume]

No I'm not a call of duty fan. Instead I'm wondering where games like this or No Mans Sky have potential

[atomic zealot]

Valheim is very fun, v rising is very fun too

City skylines

[twin oracle]

Do your know how to see this int the game?

[full plume]

I still have bought city skylines.

[twin oracle]

blueprint in the game is empty

[tall crypt]

Uriatstinger produce 900K silicon

[full plume]

No idea here's all I got been playing since weekend.

[full plume]

Oh you mean the games aren't linked because there's no real solid front end back end servers ? Is that what your asking 🤔

[twin oracle]

nice

[twin oracle]

Don't know, I think I have to do something, but don't know what it is

[toxic hull]

they haven't implemented the transfer of blueprints yet

[full plume]

I counted the spaces amd left the corner in the upper left open for scientific

[full plume]

Yeah. Servers won't cost that much if they want to.

[twin oracle]

Ahhhhhh really? I didn't know about it. Thank you very much.

[thorny crater]

NOICE! i had all 3 fuels but only two elements lol

[twin oracle]

is that a free land or you bought?

[full plume]

Not buying until final version

[thorny crater]

plus youll learn all the in and outs too

[foggy sage]

shes my cherry pie

[full plume]

Okay so City Skylines is the only other game people here play?
Or any other games with similar experience

[full plume]

Tastes so good make a man cry

Such a sweet surprise

[full plume]

@atomic zealot

[thorny crater]

for me outside of crypto i play final fantasy, eldin ring, if I had friends who still played ESO (love the combat), used to play COD but never again, Civilization, Smite, etc. pretty random

in crypto. this game only

[full plume]

Okay so this is a one if a kind for you.

[atomic zealot]

There's a ton, clash of clans is obviously the closest one to this one and there's a ton of those. Rift breaker is okay, mind over magic, etc..

There's too many to list

[full plume]

Oh I'm looking at Rift Breaker! Never knew that existed! I like some channels where female pilots teach planes.

What's wrong with it? Is it to many base defense?

Be careful here I found out all the guys here are Australians #🎨〕community-content message

So maybe the bases will get looted. You mentioned clash of clans.

[atomic zealot]

Not deep enough for me, you might have more fun with Dyson than that or factorio but factorio feels like a job after a few hours....you literally have to have a pen and paper and plan stuff out

[full plume]

I solved factorio mentally from a wiki So it feels like I played the game. No need to play 😄

[atomic zealot]

Lol good, it's like having an unpaid engineering job

[full plume]

Yes ✅️

[hearty cradle]

guys
why
solon
is
so
expensive

[hazy tartan]

Smite 2 so close 🫡

I can’t wait, was too busy to partake but had alpha

[atomic zealot]

Anyone waiting on ashes of creation?

[thorny crater]

yup yup. crypto is a weird place to me honestly. the ideas of some, not all just don't ad up.

example - untraceable - for me this is not 100% true. If i can find 1 wallet you hvae i will be able to find them all. May take work but it can happen.
example in the fiat world.
in the corp world this would be like Trust - > subsidiaries '(can be 10 to 100s of them) -> LLCs -> person/board/another institution. Hard to track but can be done.

[thorny crater]

YES! i am disapointed that we cant bring over our stuff. I was a BETA tester in college lol

[full plume]

Is it sci fi?

[thorny crater]

so i got all the gods for free wiht all the crystals they gave me lol

[atomic zealot]

MMO

[ocean haven]

dont know man, guess there wasnt much fuel on those lands and it ran out 🙂
no for real tho, what will happen to the 5% for landowners? will it all go to tier4 plots that was able to sell alot more fuel then anyone els before 75% reduction?

[hazy tartan]

I had an accidental all gods forever purchase and was def bummed by the loss of them but I only used olorun post release of him so he’s all I need in new game, I remember his initial release everyone ran him as support and I ran pure damage and shredded

Atk speed buff too crazy

[full plume]

Okay so city skylines, riftbreaker, what else for high tech building?

It's a niche market that I love so I understand there are FAR more soldier boy games.

[hazy tartan]

I don’t love it’s chances after a quick look, in depth new world

[hearty cradle]

yea higher tier plots prob made the most of it

[thorny crater]

it changed so muchg i super suck lol. all the items changed there was nickoloden skins and TMNT skins lol

[atomic zealot]

Dyson sphere, planet crafter, surviving mars

[thorny crater]

i had stopped from like 2016-about 5-6 months ago lol

[atomic zealot]

New world is a huge left down

[hazy tartan]

I actually loved the changes, made it easier to grasp for me… there’s a learning curve for sure especially when they changed the item system as much as they did, saw the new one changes the system again

[hazy tartan]

I remember putting endless hours waiting for endgame then months went by and I had no real endgame

[full plume]

I'm writing it down.

[thorny crater]

yeah we practice from time to time, but we tried SMITE 2's ALPHA and it just looks like a grpahic upgrade is all

kinda sad about it. still excited but still lol

[hazy tartan]

It’s almost purely graphical, but I will say it’s a colossal upgrade visually which imo was really anyone’s only complaint

That and kululkan ult being full lane width 😂

[thorny crater]

first guy i ever got to lvl 10 lol

that wind tornado a beast for quick levels

per round*

but i cant play campaign anymore i completely forgot how....or i go with my cousins who are like pros

the carry me haha

[hazy tartan]

Stupid easy lol, never had a good counter outside of our buddy running hades jungle and shredding ult left and right

There’s just so many OP characters I love their setup where everyone is individually OP their own way and some counter others flawlessly

But I’d be down for a round sometime, haven’t played in some time myself but gotta be like riding a bike

[thorny crater]

I would need to redownload it. I was on an eldine ring grind for the DLC lol

but helllll yeah my cousins and stuff play a lot too. Only down side the servers are crappy 90% of the time lst we played.

they DO NOT do crypto though haha

[hazy tartan]

Never did elden, just crosses my threshold of fun vs anger

Need to have more fun than anger lol

[thorny crater]

haha yeah. i quite soul games beacsue it became work. Gota remember the entire level just to beat it

BUT eldin ring is kinds "easier" they only thin i hate is i cant keep up with the story

its to scattered, like you hvae to meet others IF you even meet them, to progress on the current quest, and no journel is crazy

I had to youtube the story to figure out what was going on lol. Other than that its a old school FINAL FANTASY game/ESO build mix

[hazy tartan]

I did play ESO and was so fun but man did it get stale, conjure/heal just spam heal while your familiars deal all your damage

[thorny crater]

oh PVP is where its at. PVE was meh cause just like you said rinse and repeat till you get an epic BOSS dungeon drop fomr the Hard level bosses.

[wary skiff]

Hello 👋
Do we have a site with all datas off ILV zéro ? And if not, what is the max level of a fuel extractor ? How much it harvest ? In which time ? On which land ?

[thorny crater]

9

immuta scan

illiuvidex ledger

the rest idk lol

[timber sapphire]

Real man play melee greatswords

[thorny crater]

BAN HAMMER son!

lol

[wary skiff]

For the data about the statistics in game

[low river]

I'm confuse on how to get the skins for the OW. when I use the data reader on the atlas, it only says "drone skins".

[thorny crater]

no implemented yet

[atomic zealot]

Yeah, plus all the bugs and it was really shallow. The enemies were the same just in different skins.

Great idea but poorly implemented since they changed game direction a million times mid development

[timber sapphire]

Do you have the alpha blueprints?

[low river]

yes

[timber sapphire]

This is what mod said the other day

[low river]

Thanks

[timber sapphire]

I haven't tried it myself yet tho

[vague tide]

It's worked for me

[low river]

it worked, thanks

[unborn pilot]

Do we know when the team is on vacation until? Just curious to know when we can expect them back.

[open stratus]

Yaaaa I was hard on eao

Eso

[hazy tartan]

Too many hours, could log on now and still be sitting near endgame lol. Ever play smite? Jqt and i gonna try sometime to get on eventually

[stoic rapids]

Imdoingmypart.jpg

[void raft]

T3?

[stoic rapids]

I have a T4

worst investment of my life at the moment 😑

[low river]

How much did you pay for it?

yuo don't have to tell if you don't want to of course

[gritty wave]

is 10% the highest path bonus we can get?

[void raft]

I think its 20%

[little moon]

20% if you have nexus upto level 9

[gritty wave]

wow...I'm tire of adding power stations for no reason lol

[open stratus]

Nevwr played smite no.

[gritty wave]

sorta stupid really...powerstations need to be reworked

[void raft]

join the powerstation club

[gritty wave]

lol holy crap

solar I hope

[void raft]

thats 17% paths

[gritty wave]

nice plant crop too

[ivory fjord]

I mean one of the biggest whale for land is behind the wheels, so long term I see it balancing out to what he said. The initial launch can be shaky with less fuel needs. I strongly believe it will be balanced soon

[thorny crater]

i hate doing things like this lol

[gritty wave]

have you got the plantatiurm going yet?

[void raft]

no and I dont think I will, I just hate plants 😄

[gritty wave]

actually I appreciate your order to things...autistic?

[timber sapphire]

Yeah maybe I'll wait for the actual implementation if I don't feel like doing this

But downside could be that they make crafting higher/more demanding

[void raft]

its a T2 and I have problems with fuel, not with resources, so I dont need the plants, they just get in the way...

[thorny crater]

I do not think i will do this. instead i will add more labs. I care more about BPs than fuel honestly
This t3 produces so much i can scan from lvl1-3 scanners/labs each at all times, sell fuels, AND still have enough for building lvl 9 buildings

[timber sapphire]

What is even the upside of plants?

[void raft]

maybe 😄 I think its just effective, but I plan to rework the plot once I am maxed out, then I wont need 17%, but just 5-10% so I can harverst everything once a day

[gritty wave]

eventually dyes

[timber sapphire]

Oh yeah forgot all about that

[gritty wave]

I think a lot of us city builder types are somewhere neurodivergient lol

[timber sapphire]

Hope some big patches soon

[gritty wave]

yeah will make plants sorta fun again...grow to mutate, create dyes and one of a kind skins

we'll see how the planturium works out 😉

[void raft]

well as I said, I go for efficiency not for a beautiful city, but if it can be symnetrical, then I would prefer it 😄

how many scanners and labs can T1/T2 sustain?

[timber sapphire]

I'm currently just building and skipping scanners and labs atm

[thorny crater]

I had to google the word, but yeah im a black sheep lol

[timber sapphire]

Idk id that's smart

[thorny crater]

i did the same for my t2s

not until i get my fuels to max levels

[timber sapphire]

Yeah that was my plan too

[thorny crater]

i get to greedy and not i cant max my nexus for 12 more hours when i should have gotten the process started a week ago

didnt get on BP on my T2 lol

[gritty wave]

that is a good question and I think you probably only need two or three anyway

[void raft]

I think building a few scanners on a T2 is ok, but I stopped building them on a T1, I desperately need the fuel for my Nexus IX

[void raft]

well even 3 is a long way to go, the max lvl scanner costs 28M resources...

[gritty wave]

yeah I'm working a t1 so each decision is huge..decided I had to get the nexus to 7 so I could power station spam 😉

then upgrade fuel

[thorny crater]

here is the T2 i no longer scan/dolab stuff/ 3 HYPE fuels tho so i have to do a lot of converting

[gritty wave]

nice looking iceberg 🙂

[thorny crater]

i lie 18 hours before i can max my nexus

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/gabe-greenspan-shipwrecked-shipwrecked-comedy-headless-sleepy-hollow-gif-26603098

[gritty wave]

I'm envious of those fuel levels lol

[void raft]

11mins before I can go to sleep lol

[gritty wave]

right? who else here has got up in the middle of the night and restarted their fuel?? lol

[thorny crater]

got there before the nerf lol

gota use the ups to your advantage while its hot haha

[void raft]

well I dont get up 😄 I just wait till like 11PM and then I get up at 7-8am to start again

[gritty wave]

so you get three a day?

I'm always off time..so like two hours by next cycle when I go to bed...but if I get up to pee, why not check on them 😉

drink a lot of water

[void raft]

yep, its 8hours*0.83, which can be done 3 times a day

[gritty wave]

nice

I'm still 6 hour cycles

so not easy to do

but fuel is next

but had to do nexus then qf 4

while still scanning and researching

to get the airdrops

[timber sapphire]

8 hours? Isn't it 12?

[void raft]

daily missions?

[gritty wave]

yep

[gritty wave]

when it's scanning and researching