#🎮〕illuvium-zero
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Hi everyone does the season start
can someone clarify the interation between Zero and OW? I'm specifically wondering if I can move resources directly from my land to my OW character/account (so I don't have to buy, e.g., Krypton)? or is land only good for blueprints and revdis?
its crazy the lack of admin on this channel , giving some feedback for players...
also, i'll say that not having megacities up is a pretty big bunch of BS. Of all the things to be working on, that seems among the biggest "WTF did I pay for" features.
I answered yesterday, I just don’t have a solid update for you guys yet, lots going on and when I do I will communicate it.
i did ask, no answer
How can that be - we are two weeks away from mainnet launch?
Chill everyone, at the of the day we will find out what’s goin on soon the 25th is in a few weeks
Those values represent the efficiency bonus that each structure gives for being within range of the structure you selected. So your Silicon converter gets a 30% bonus for being close to a Mine, a 20% bonus for a Power Station, and a -10% bonus (or a better term, a 10% penalty) for being close to another converter. I can't remember the exact amount, but it there is a bigger penalty for being close to the same converter type.
When did you asked - like since how long did you not got any answer?
Well you have to consider bug testing and balance changes. This should be tested at least a little before it launches with Mainnet.
How do paths work now please?
You get a bonus for the number of buildings you have on one continuous path.
I have 11 buildings on one path and that makes 2% how is that calculated?
So if i start playing now will my land be wiped on the 25th ?
about 24 hours ago
I don't know the exact calculations but I think it may be a bonus of 0.2 for each resource and 0.1 for each other building. I have 42 buildings (6 resources x 0.2 + 36 x 0.1 = 4.8) and my path bonus shows 5% which is consistent with how they have rounded in the past. I tested removing some storage building and after removing 3 of them from the path (So now 6 resources x 0.2 + 33 x 0.1 = 4.5) , my path bonus dropped to 4%, so they must round down when it is at a .5
Arent they gonna change that?
Why can't i play zero, i download the latest on the web but when unzip it still the old version.
we're waiting on the announcement for the release date for the beta app
how can some play and some don't?
I can not access Illuvium Zero on my PC Or Samsung phone 😒 I have downloaded what I thought was the new patch for the PC and it said it's old?
The PC is High end and the phone is fairly new what is going on is it down or am I missing something 🤔
they had briefly released a version on Android that some had downloaded
perhaps mistakenly
I'm playing and doing quest. Download on ap store
is not on playstore anymore, they remove it
I have to install latest version but i can not find it. Please where is it?
Looks Like Update imminent guys
IZ is currently down, when we have an update for it being up again we will inform you guys.
Can't wait to start over again 😄
Pro tip... get that second builder and don't waste the speedup credits early
So is IZ going to be live on the 25th with the launch of the game or are we going to launch with IZ on test net?
Either it's been updated... or they are not ready for us to be playing it
any compensation points those Land owner?? the 25th is near and the land owner cant have points playing in Pre Airdrop 2
Don’t think so.
do we know if we will be able to use the fuel we create in IZ for our own OW runs ?
Yes, we should be able to AFAIK
thats awesome ty
I got my level back and lost my experience.
I tried to update my data, but it wouldn't download.
Can I play from my PC?
Or do you still have the bug?
Game isn't loading. It says Downloading assets... 0MB left
Should I just uninstall and then download it again?
The silence is deafening, Illuvium Zero Team. At least give us a clue as to what is goin on? Don't leave us hangin Bro!
they took it offline for an update, still waiting for the update
ah ok thanks
still waiting for an announcement as to what is happening in Zero , delays, bug fixes, adjustments. July 25th is coming up quick. eagerly waiting in anticipation, ...... deafly silent
We don't know if an update is coming or not. That is pure speculation
I hope your right
Well… Kieran did tweet that all is on schedule for all games to launch on the 25th. So zero will be out soon one way or another.
They advertise in a way that makes you expect it, make you buy LAND, and then leave you alone. It's a scam.
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when i tried to load game today it said i needed to update so i went to the site and downloaded the game file again and installed . However when i open the game up before it lets me login it says latest version required an send me to the website .
I have tried this a number of times and the same thing keeps happening.
I'm getting the same error.
They said to wait the annoucement, don t know exactly the problem
But no one can play in iz now
Is this the reason why its not in app store at the moment?
It's a pain in the ass to log in Illuvium zero now!! I can't see what I'm typing when the game is in landscape mode!
And the app doesn't remember my e-mail address!!!
What was wrong with the previous log in?
Same like me. Download the new one, but still the old version
Same here
@past copper
It won't open because of updating is what I've been reading on here. It apparently will not be available until the 25th.
I tried to login last night and it just sits . I guess we won't get to play again until the 25th which is fine. I'm ready to play my land instead.....finally, maybe...lol
but if there is no fuel for sale on the market, how will people play?
DAO will sell all fuel and distribute 5% to all lands
That could be a way
ohh ty for the answer 🙂
Let's hope that they are integrating IZ to the illuvidex right now and that's what causes the fuel marketplace bug. Would make sense to have that before they release the version of IZ where I can hopefully finally play it 
Hi
In Illuvium Zero it appears to me that it is an obsolete version I download again and the same thing appears to me ...
wow wait we cant play zero untill 25 ? lol then we have only 5 days for us landowner while prices get thrown away to free to player ?
was this in normal chat under #📣〕announcements i dont see it
who said that it won't be released before 25th?
just wait for an announcement. I am sure they want to test it before mainnet
@stray reef
Well… Kieran did tweet that all is on schedule for all games to launch on the 25th. So zero will be out soon one way or another.
5 days?
Yo. I can't play no more?
Can we get updates in app for maintenance or shutdowns rather than relying on Discord or just randomly shutting off access to the game?
We will hopefully have announcements in game at some point
same to me
Does this mean that each land will receive 5% rev-div based on how much fuel the DAO/Game sells on its internal market (I.e., not 5% of whats sold by players)
How does someone complete the Zero missions if game can't be played again until the 25th
The way you've asked this is a little confusing. Land does not get revdis, but systems are in place to ensure that even if it's not through the fuel purchase system, 5% of digital revenue will always go to land holders.
This will apply when fuel prices hit the upper rail due to not enough land production (DAO is generating/selling beyond the normal 1:19 ratio) to keep up with demand. Prices will likely be at the upper rail at launch because hopefully lots of demand and also no land will be ready now.
There is only one fuel market.
How many billion more resets are the management going to put on?
There should be no downloads to keep people from playing until we clarify when we are not going to reset.
Don't take up users' time.
I don't think this has changed in terms of the two resets, has it?
I guess the only thing we don't know is if they will make a F2P testnet plot available before release. That would of course not go to mainnet and a F2P plot doesn't generate real fuel to be sold anyway.
My question was more along the lines of... Is it 5% rev-div of 1) ALL player and DAO sales 2) ALL fuel sale or 3) All player sales or 4) Just fuel sold from the owners land - What if someone owns more than Land... is that 5% increased.
^^ edited
Land holders get 5% of fuel sales revenue because every time you sell a single fuel, the DAO creates and sells 19. You keep 100% of the revenue from the fuel that you sell yourself. Is that what you're asking?
Sorry, I reread and still not sure if I'm answering the right question
I think so, lol - Your response leads me to think that all fuel sales, regardless if DAO or Player, you get 5% revdiv. Or is it only one or the other.,
No one will know if they're buying from the DAO or a player. It's all together, so if you buy 100 crypton, 95 of that will be from the DAO and 5 will be from player(s).
Perfect, thanks for your patience in answering 😉
That's a suggestion I read made by the team I don't know the details
You might be thinking of IIP-45
or 52
What's everyone's best guess on why land prices are plummeting... i.e., T3 going for what a perfectly balanced T2 used to go for
well eth is like 3x the time of the land sale and a lot of people bought at 30% discount with silv2
not saying it isnt down from a few weeks ago but this is pretty normal
ahh that makes sense.. I forgot it could originally be bought with silv2. has a decision been made about how we can spend or what we can do with silv2 moving forward>
as far as i know still just for in game purchases that arent peer to peer (illuvidex) like fuel sales/illuvitars/future land sales
hopefully for d1sk mints too
yeee
Yeah there you go...I need to re-read that 👍
I paid 8000 dollars for my T3 at the auction. Almost 3 years ago. 8k locked up for 3 years.
Now worth 2500 dollars.
Yeah I say the team should make an effort to make land more attractive. We made a massive investment over years. The loyalty reward I got for my 3 years of holding was what. Like 1.5 ILV. Thanks
Compensates a little for the 6500 dollars minus inflation and lost investment opportunities I am down
*5500
What should I say? I paid for each of my Tier 4 lands over 20k. What full MCs go for by now with T4s included!
But I‘m absolutely on the same page with you.
As mentioned, if IZ doesn’t go live with Mainnet, it will outrun the good publicity with big critics about IZ in my personal opinion.
Let me ask you. How were you rewarded for your loyalty https:// rewards. illuvium. io
#1251222300272103456 Did this one fly under the radar?
IL:Z is launching with OW and Arena.
I am sure they will take care of us. Hoping they will make the land monthly divident by selling fuel profitable. That will reward the owners and increase the value for sure
It is all about the fuel rewards. If they are bad. Land will go to zero. No phun intended.
Sounds a little bit baseless. Land will have a market value based on the success of our products. If people are buying and using lots of fuel, that value will be higher. If people aren't, it will be lower. Unless 0 fuel is being used, supply and demand means land won't go to 0.
i guess with mentioning of testnet likely closing earlier than launch, and IZ not being implemented in testnet yet lets doubts arise it actually being ready for launch of the mainnet.
I heared it is possible testnet closing a week ish before launch, which leaves us a good week in testnet.
I hope Zero isn't released without proper testing in a wider audience than just the internal qa team.
Bugs that can occure like for example the fuel bug on the marketplace in early open beta testnet could not only have detrimental effect on economy or buyer/seller but also a potentially big negative effect on social medias.
😦
i want play to IZ where my cities 😦
a game should have been left to make points to give a small advantage to the land owners. not cool .
even if the game was not finished or perfect. a second test should have been done during the remainder of the test
Kinda scary to not test the I part of IBG on testnet and instead just go live with it...
We'll put our fate in a team working around the clock with no rest until then I'm sure! 😆
I mean... it is hopeful that the version that was on Play Store for a bit was connected to testnet. Maybe they got enough info from that to make changes and get a new version up in the next couple days. That would give a week of testing.
I feel ya there!!! I'm down a lil more than that due to land.. too bad I used all of my savings at the time thinking this was "the" way to go investment wise. Now I'm looking for something else other than ILV-Land to swap out for (suggestions to inbox are welcome)
don't think it was connected, nor do i think there was actually valuable data out of that if it was... noone sold fuel, noone used ingame marketplace, i guess also noone scanned for biodata, researched blueprints and actually tried to mint them since it was only f2p plot and noone had the progress to do so anyways.
Most were just clicking some harvesters and build a few early game buildings...
You can't play it now to finish that "endgame" unless it's just having each type of building maxed out
Did you really mint those about the same time you took the screenshot... I'm curious how
imagine having bugs that affect peoples revenue. That will not be fun at all
also those testing weeks are assuming people will actually test it, which remains to be seen
It definitely did not fly under most radars since there was a huge discussion about it. Can you really not see why still most people are worried about the situation Zero is in right now? Perhaps we are preoccupying too much and everything is almost cooked and ready to go, but im sure you can understand landowners point of view
Some of the most helpful community bug reporters have been play testing zero for awhile. With enough speedups to get to blueprints.
Yah, u right. I’m just looking for any thread of optimism 😬
Thanks for extinguishing the last glimmer of hope spoon 💀 😝
you mean some people have access to the new version of zero?
yea, was the same with OW build, right? 🙃
Some of us were playing the play store version… but it’s been taken down and now the app doesn’t work either any more. So speculation is that new update coming soon orrrr
I understand that there's some anxiety around it, for sure. We just met as the IMC ~24 hours ago and got updated on progress, and it's looking like everything is on track for launch.
It's just pretty awkward when we've said quite a few times that IL:Z will be launching with Arena and OW (including passing a proposal stipulating that must be the case), and then people continue to doubt it or flat out state that it's not going to happen. If we get an update saying otherwise, y'all will be the first to know, but to the best of my knowledge everything is going to be ready.
alright thats good to hear. Now please don't tell me its awkward for people to doubt launch when they've already been part of .. 4 delays? lost count
and given the situation and information we have, expecting another delay is not hard to imagine at all
Yeah
Private beta testing. Yes.
The amount of tears right before release is baffling to me. If your down so much is there any point in selling right before release... at the bottom...
Probably a good time to be accumulating
.. #notfinancialadvise
You can easely say its awkward, with the info you have as an imc.
Put yourself in the shoes of a community member, ser.
An IIP on one hand doesn't mean too much (we also had an iip IZ starting befor mainnet launch) and on the other hand it also doesn't speed up developement process as imc members stated on other occasions.
If IZ is already in a launchable state, why it never got released for testing with a wide audience?
There was even a version on the playstore i guess that wouldn't have been too much workload to bring the latest build to all the open beta testers.
We almost at launch an besides the 1 or 2 sentences in the announcement that iz is life on testnet soon there was no info at all, and given previous delays of different products you really think it's awkward? 🙃
Still works for me... Weird
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Damn spoon never seen u so bitter in ur comments about zero
i'm not bitter at all... you should read comments with a calm voice mate 🙂
@radiant sky isn't bitter, just seasoned. Been here a long time keeping it real and staying engaged.
Oh it was calm just more on the negative side than I usually see with you
I'm not sure what you're looking for. If I knew there would be a delay, I'd be sharing that information. The implication being put forward is definitely awkward, that some people think there's going to be a delay that's being sneakily hidden. That's not the case, to the best of my knowledge. If people think I'm lying, or that Labs is lying, I'd prefer they be upfront about that instead of implying it. At least then we can speak about things directly. That's substantially less awkward, because we're being honest about where we stand.
Everyone is entitled to their feelings, but it's also important to acknowledge when we're making assertions based on emotion and when we're basing them off tangible information. I have a hard time making space for people's emotional perspectives if those aren't based off information. It has been quiet, and it's pretty clear people have read into that in various ways - To me it looks like the team has their heads down working hard to get us live.
I'll reiterate one final time - If I get information that Zero isn't going to be ready, getting that information to DAO membership is going to be my top priority. It would likely also be Labs top priority, based on my experience with them. The alternative, and where we currently stand, is that IL:Z will be launching with Arena and OW.
Have they even released the upper rail of fuel mean damn only 2 weeks out
i'm not looking for anything actually.
But given no info about the state, not seeing IZ on testnet, launchtime of IZ got changed at the time iz should have launched, i guess nobody would be surprised if that happens again and in my opinion it is not surprising people getting slowly but surely negative. What you see in this channel is almost nothing, i get DM's of many landowners on a regular basis, and even we have had hard times, with delays, and johnny leaving etc... i can tell the sentiment is now an an altime low ... and that is with launch of mainnet arround the corner, and hopefully finally seing IZ live on chain.
If nobody would talk without proper information, that channel would be dead, only thing people can do is specualting about iz and people like to speculate about all kind of things.
If there were some proper info, or even a build out for testing, it could be discussed in a way it should be, but without that... speculating wins.
And with all that, seeing a council member hopping into the channel and stating it is awkward to not expect IZ launching on time... i couldn't just stay silent there... 😄
U speak so much more professional than alot of us but get the feeling spot on
I get it, there's no undoing the past and no one can deny that there's been delays. I just hope we can go into launch with at least some optimism. Some days it seems like we'll be post-launch with everything up and running and there will still be people in here complaining that IZ isn't live.
I'm looking really forward to launch, and I know the team is too. Hopefully the community can get excited about that as well.
How can we complain iz isn't live if we are supposed to be live at launch
It's meant to be a joke. Sometimes it feels like people are more committed to denying that this is our actual game launch, to the point where even after we're live they might like to continue denying that the game is live.
So do I.
I really hope everything goes smothly and people have lot of fun getting the full experience. 🤞
Not sure best time to joke when people are in doubt we will launch on time
gotta love it when the answer is ''lets hope''
I don't understand not putting a version up on testnet, do you?
Was it important to get overworld and arena on testnet, but not important to put zero through the same rigor? Is this because the order book system that will connect zero to the IBG will just feed into the same fuel exchange that's on testnet now? There's not much room for error?
not really wish to play zero using bluestack and nox 
I hope the client is ready for Zero on 25 July.
Smells fishy
Emotion aside, no acknowedgement or info about a pillar in the IBG two weeks before GO LIVE time is going to raise questions. It's the lack of info and engagement by team altogether on Zero (especially since Johnny washed his hands completely) that has created this overwhelming uncertainty for landholders.
Maybe heads are down to get things ready, but having an official statement to that fact for the community seems appropriate at least.
I mean, the game can't launch without Zero so It's just a matter of when for Zero otherwise all the games have to be delayed.
As per IIP: Instead of launching Illuvium Zero before the Overworld, as previously proposed in IIP-39, all three games will be released together. Subsequent updates will introduce blueprint minting and Mega Cities, with compensatory measures to account for these delays.
Fair enough... it's working again for me now too
@tardy falcon
Yay!! Glad you said it's working again. Mine is as well. I'm loving that the plants give resources. Like you said, now mine are various amounts. I did notice that the larger the plant, the more resource you get. I just got 10,000 carbon from a larger one.
did it get removed from the android store?
Yeah still not back on the play store
Wonder when they will release the official price of fuel
July 25th!
I'm so confused about the state of IZ 😕 how has there been sufficient testing for it to go live without it being integrated with test net?
Unless an official announcement about that is made I have to assume it won't be ready for 25th and not even close...
Everyone was so crazy mad about a potential delay and now we're all silent coming up to the line with no info, it's very strange
You won't feel confused if don't think about it.
Go do other thing worth your time 
Uncertainty will rob the happiness >.<
I'm with you, but the feeling won't help ourselves or them too. 🫂
just wait for announcement, remain calm.
Anyone from team step in will only add oil to fire unless.. yeap, they will know. 🫡
Don't let the feeling take the best of us. 💪
Very good advice, I have been doing just that and trying to stay up to date passively. It does feel like landowners are sleepwalking to launch though, I'd have thought they would want us all hyper engaged and chomping at the bit - guess it might be a slow start 🦥
yup, the more expectation can lead to more disappointment.
ILV is great project, no doubt.
but every project will have own issue to settle.
Like our life, we all have stuff to settle too.
have deadline, this and that.
Just don't rush, cooking a good meal; take time too 😅
yea its crazy people lose faith after what happend, makes so sense.
People didn't want all the delays, but now reality is sinking in that they're really going to slam Illuvium Zero into a release with the other games except this one won't have open testing on the testnet or even on a build from within the last 12 months.
I think people are just holding their breaths and hoping it's not a complete train wreck. Not trying to be negative about the situation, but realistically that's all land holders can do right now without inside info.
can play ILZ on android again.
same as before it went off. still same problems.
will make a list again today of what bugs I did find
lets go guys, 15 days left only!!! 🙂
No information is bad. You don't release an entirely new version without information. Good, bad or other. Where is some leadership?
It's been like days right? I not stressing it, just looking for an announcement of some kind.
Crickets from the ILZ Developer Team. At least tell us what is happening! We don't need a formal announcement. Kieran said that he wanted us to "take a break" in anticipation of the launch date. Maybe this is it, maybe not. At any rate, give us a clue, developers! Ppl goin nuts trying to figure out what is going on. Ease our anticipation woes!
Breaks are fine, mistakes are fine, and changes in how they are going to implement and integrate the systems are fine. Neglecting to provide information to stakeholders... that's not how you run a business. that is neglect. Even if it's "hey we screwed up, we are in the process of fixing it." is better than silence.
Made this experience with guild of guardians and never want to make it again. Team of GoG doesn't give information and change things randomly xD the last update from today once more showed me how important a transparent execution is - not only before launch, but also after release.
I press both my thumbs and hope that ilv team makes it better. They didn't disappoint me until now. Only the lack of communication what works and what not and what are the next steps for ILZ is something I kinda start to miss
A 10min talk by the team in voice channel and everything will be fine again for everyone I think. People don't ask for more as I understand right
Hopefully we have another fuel airdrop coming....and btw if you are playing OW day one, you can get some steals on fuel crates right now
there is another one coming according to the iip-54
Is there an updated version of IZ? Currently the one I downloaded feom the website show that its outdated or obsolete...
That's great news! As long as that's the case, it's okay if IZ comes out later and even if it has some issues initially from lack of testing. The team has been making amazing progress - each update to each game is a huge improvement. This way the games are still coming out this month and land holders still get to earn, which is way better than a delay in my book.
Zero alone can't be delayed, right... it's either all or none (IIP-54)
Absolutely agree, the progress in Overworld is amazing, in arena aswell... New forge is great, so is the new weapon system, even tho it takes some flexibility away without bonding. In arena it looks like we get a complete new mode soon with gauntlet.
Depeneds on the bugs/exploits right, if there are just some small one then it's probably fine, if there are major ones, i rather would have seen it delayed. 🙂
Was Beyond central to OW, A or IZ? or a distraction?
Its more stand alone i guess, collection game of pfp not ingame assets
Yeah, hindsight is 20/20, but I think too much energy when there. Unless it was to just to gain revenue..
Beyond has provided the best return so far. For being a collection game with rewards it's great.
Look forward to when lands can bring in returns like Beyond.
Beyond isn't a game. It's a NFt thing. I don't hate it, but don't love it. Reminds me of the stigma of why mainstream gamers don't like Web3.
We can agree to disagree... but it def is a game imo. Should prob be in Beyond channel tho.
That fine, it is a game in principle. It not like a FPS game, or a card game. Beyond should just be integrated into OW.
card game is coming and they delayed doing anything else with Beyond for 9 months to focus on OW, etc. launch, so no, not a distraction, and yes, provided a lot of runway and kept people interested in the ecosystem when nothing else was going on
game design phase for the next games starts in q3 until then a coming card game is just speculation.
Do you know how much revenue beyond actually made? Was trying to look it up a few weeks ago, but couldn't find numbers.
@quaint prism card game won't be for at least a few years
hey guys idk what type of land is better to buy or how it works is there any video for it to help me understand ?
My interpretation of IIP 45 is that Beyond revenue should be included in the 5% RevDis to Landholders. This was the catalyst for it being written early this year. Does anyone have an update/clarification on that front? IIP45: https://snapshot.org/#/community.ilv-gov.eth/proposal/0x93276af2460827f08d01040a07c87f82bdc1772e686a7e52d024ff1cf6c8bd66
5 million or so..filled saftey pool. Yes, no card game this year but some form coming
How to tell which day this gets reset?
5m Overall revenue?
Like wave 1+2 and Promo disks included?
Landowners don't get revdis.
Future sales of disks will be paid in fuel... AT least should
Hmm, maybe it lines up with the overworld/arena weekly missions.
Nijafe (Nicholas), I believe, wrote #45 with this intent and concern as he produced YT videos on the issue. @potent dock this supplies a material/tangible reason why I believe Landowner sentiment has tanked alongside the NFT prices of land.
What issue you are talking about exactly?
Revdis is not the correct term for what Land owners would ever receive.
Revdis is what staked ILV gets. It’s a protocol. A smart contract system.
ICCP-3 Revenue Distribution Decisions aimed to ensure sustainable revenue distribution for the long-term operation of the DAO, and to provide clear expectations for $ILV stakers. Future product proposals should adhere to the relevant distribution definitions.
Summary:
For products with negligible variable costs, 100% of revenue will be distributed.
For products with non-negligible variable costs, 100% of revenue minus variable costs will be distributed.
For more detailed information, please read the full ICCP: https://gov.illuvium.io/#/proposal/0x245e440c3b517a0b7a7ff11c2c038cfd96c503ab9cbf3e593bd8d7c73cd07fae
Land could potentially get revenue. Should be in fact, right around 5% of the revenue from digital sales
Concede the term RevDis (scratch it). The concern is that Land was sold under the premise that 5% of all revenue (crypto transactions) would, in aggregate, be paid out to Landholders. This was later clarified per M0z4art's post. However, Nijafe lead the IIP45 to clarify that items like Illuvitars / Beyond should be included. Since the passing of this IIP, nothing has been communication or distributed to landholders.
Becuase there have been no sales.
5% of 0 is still 0
There have been zero illuvitars sold?
$4m of the first edition Alpha “D1sks” (disks) sold within 24 hours.
When was that IIP passed that you just referred to? I did not check the dates
#📯〕council-chambers message looks like February 2024
My constructive feedback is my belief this directly correlates with low NFT prices for land and overall sentiment. It is basic logic. The "original intent" for purchase was to participate in such DAO revenue. The IIP 45 was passed, and Kieran was recorded in videos to clarify the nature of intent. Yet, no further communication has followed.
This is an issue. I assure you.
Is your interpretation that IIP 45 should be applied retroactively to any digital sales that occurred after the initial land sale?
Absolutely. Redistributed to the $72M capital stakeholders in this project.
I think the other 5,000 or so landholders would agree.
Does IIP-45 include the word retroactive or something to that effect?
If you owned $72M of a stock for two years and the company was receipted revenue. Would you want zero dividends for the use of your capital?
That was my interpretation of that iip
Scoriox has some good YouTube videos on land tiers… just search ‘Scoriox land’
I’d say take a look at these infographics in the pinned messages
This leaves that possibility open
…all current and future Illuvium games, including, but not limited to, D1SK sales within Illuvium Beyond.
@vivid cipher appreciate your consideration/response. For the health of ILV, I wish this feedback could be heard by the executive staff. Landholders' investment carried ILV through the bear market and far outweighs the private investments from Venture Capitalists. Yet, 15 days out you know the state of the Zero game and you know zero revenue has been shared back with the Landholders. In any other form of business, this would be unheard of.
Since IIP-45 was passed there was no sales revenue from “all current and future Illuvium games, including, but not limited to, D1SK sales within Illuvium Beyond.”
The previous revenue from Beyond was placed in the $5m safety pool as directly stated and defined by other previous proposals.
What happens with that $5m and when it happens is up to the council.
@vivid cipher Thanks for the clarification you are able to supply. IIP-45 was because the original intent we felt was violated. Now that it is acknowledged, I would retroactively distribute revenue if I was running the DOA. I think the DOA should include Landholders in the publishing of any financial reporting, however, that was the terms upon purchase of the land.
yes with that iip you linked above, it should be phrased better than in previous iips, what actually is included in that revenue share.
It is also defined how it should work (with fuel sales and sales without using fuel)
there were heated discussions about it being applied retroactively or not.
the result was it was not really worth the workload to pay out some pennies to every landowner and if i remember right there were also voices who thought the iip actually changed the rev share of iz and landwoners shouldn't be entitled to that past revenue.
@radiant sky thanks for all of your investment in moderating this channel and the historical perspective. @vivid cipher appreciate you engaging in substantive dialogue on the issue. I feel as if "the team" have for the most part side-stepped this matter. And I think its reflected in the landsales and overall sentiment of this feed.
I have a close eye on that subject, and i'm super curious how it will work out.
- Beyond wave 3 should go live 1-2 months into mainnet launch if i remember right, those disk should be sold in fuel.
- After 4 months of mainnet launch, mini landsales could start happening, those land should be sold in fuel.
Do we have an estimate of the total Beyond sales?
wanted to look it up a few weeks ago, but gave up not finding the info.
a guy told me it's arround 5m, but i doubt it was that high.
They did press releases of $4M in first 24 hours. And there have been two sales to my knowledge.
@high sleet do you have any data on the Beyond sales to date?
that was probably 4m$ worth of sales, which included silv2, which is not "real value"... to pump the numbers up.
But idk...
Yes, you are probably correct. $5M @5% / 20,000 plots is only $12.50/ea
So feel the loyalty airdrop offsets my gripes
yea on average... i guess the distribution would have been acordingly ot tier... some would have goten more and some less.
I saw the airdrop as a really LOW APY on my capital during a period of hyper inflation while my NFT asset plummeted. 
i guess that's what it was 😄
At the end of the day, if ILV can get adoption cranked up with the recent influencer IIP and cross-promo deals, I think it might all work out. Maybe 2-4K of the land plots will actually be managed over the next 90 days, which I hope supplies some redemptive opportunity. Then FIAT money printers make crypto enter the banana zone period again, driving outrageous NFT speculation, and I exit my "improved land." It's probably just wishful thinking on my part!
I love all IIPs that pay for marketing w/ ILV holders money!
i feel in the end it's a little goodie to cheer landowners up for not much happening the past 2 years, like the "megacities will be available on launch" thing, or the alpha blueprints.
They always worked properly and the majority of landowners were satisfied again after that stuff got "announced"
I wouldn't look at it as compensation for missed roi.
i have my doubts that iip actually having high value.
I guess it's going to be the same as with the last one... Those who are already doing content anyways for the IP will get rewarded.
Too early and too low for web2 creators and a part of the web3 creatores will anyways hop on the train and start doing ilv content as soon as its live to get some new followers of a new community.
megacities? - do you expect that functionality to go live on the 25th?
absolutely not.
According to kierans iip it's a delayed feature, will be in 8-12 weeks after launch if i remember right.
It was just (ab)used as a promise to be in to satisfy this chanel when people were arguing about Zero being low priority and nothing is happening.
8-12 weeks translates to 6-12 months I guess?
everybody can have their opinion on that... I guess we can feel as lucky people if it's implemented in 2024
i feel the first 2 month they are going crazy fixing all bugs, exploits, errors of any kind especially with IZ which seems to go live untested and the other new introduced features (live battle ow and gauntlet mode + possible surprise features)
After that, focus will be on blueprints and podarium (i guess skin creation in general)
Than another 1-2 month to fix those bugs, exploits and errors of any kind and then we will see work on megacities.
Your forecasts are as good as any being voiced. I picked up a 2x2 about a month ago with the hope megacities might go live before mass adoption (beta ends). The seller probably was operating on better info than me!
Zero is Low Priority now! Landowners can't play now, it was taken off pc. then, taken off testnet with no kind of explanation. Crickets from the Developement Team, .........Crickets..... I tell ya!
I’ve mostly tried to keep away from commenting in the past few months and only tried to get a few simple and straightforward answers here and there, especially after the hailstorm against the community since Johnny left.
And we all know it’s all hands on deck now and the entire team Is working probably way more that they should to get the games out on time - again we appreciate them and what they’ve build so far in Arena and OW is awesome – great work guys!!
What I’m trying to say though, and without pointing fingers or anything, is that it just feels so bad with Zero. It feels like an abandoned project/lack of professionalism/ignorance whatever one would want to call it to not have 1 person in here for at least 1 hour per week sharing some updates with the community. How difficult can that be?
I don’t know the reason behind this decision, but it just feels bad. Leaves room for way too much speculation – feels like behind closed doors Zero might be a burden and no one wants to have anything to do with it.
Like someone else said before me, it’s okay even if you admit you screwed up – I think a lot of people would be happy to hear that also – at least it’s something and shows that someone has the guts to take responsibility. I for one would be the 1st to reply and say ‘hey it’s okay I get it no worries – we all do mistakes and I know you’ll do your best to solve things’!
Any speculation on how much $ potential from each tier if maxed out? Per day?
T1=5$
T2=7.50$
Ect...?
the good news is you still receive extra % on your fuel sales depending on what type of MC it is regardless of if they are operational within the game
the fuel sales you don't do because you are building up your base with the fuel? 😄
most people won't or will barely profit from that +%
i guess it depends what tier land the MC have
yea, likely t3 probably get a bit and t4 a good last month of that.
Doubt t1 and 2 will really profit from it without sacrificing progress.
Yes, build up so that when megacities finally do go live, all your individual land improvements must be "wiped" to transition into the new features and you go to ZERO...just to make sure you rattle the people who invested the absolute most in the project... @pearl marten I feel you right now!
yea, there will be some serious recycling happening i guess. All the storages, quantum fabricants, engeneering workshops maybe even a nexus or two
to me that's not even the big loss... it's more of the additional time needed to build all that buildings up for nothing.
Basically loose the early advantage of a megacity, without a perk which could replace it in sight.
Also all the research time and space you would lose .... don't get me started on MCs 🙂
It's like if MCs go live 3 months after ... i think you would be better off not having one
@radiant sky you got my fired up now! "Team" recommend you take note of this candid feedback finally surfacing. Maybe @lethal wyvern can save us?
Idk if the fuel airdrops are more or less than retroactive Beyond sales would have been, if they'd been made in fuel. But given another one is coming up pre launch this month, I feel a bit better. And imo would prefer the devs focus on making the game operable with BPs and MCs and fixing the inevitable bugs after launch.
yea the premium paid would for sure have been way lower.
Thought i could make a good amount of profit back with being early in fuelsales while not many others are able to sell fuel.
Whereas now i'm with all other people... i guess depending on your tiers you could have paid a little premium but for sure not as much as i did 😄
haha
people know my opinion about mc's being delayed... was part of that discussion
They also know my opinion about the launch in general with cutting features since i tried putting forward my own iip.
testnet seems to be up again, timers kept running, gather your recources and fuel
where
Havent really been tracking that personally
Hey guys. late to everything. last i played was to make the blue prints. How do I use my land now?
@lofty void
You can't until the release on the 25th from what I understand
Thanks for the reply…your the best influencer in the world of imagination.
Hahaha I appreciate that, when Wave 3 comes out I will do plenty of analysis
But before that, if u have any video ideas for me
You and Nicholas got to throw out those influencer elbows and protect us landholders. The Team has us out in the Outback sweating our balls off worried if our NFTs are headed down under.
🤣 Yeah dude idk whats happening with land
its my understanding they are actually waiting on the app stores
But maybe @noble quest can give us a formal update on its progress
🙏
@rose thicket There have only been two sources of revenue for Illuvium on immutable X network.
1st- initial sales/mints of beyond disks (paid for in eth)
2nd- trading fees (these fees are Illuvium’s creator royalties)
All of this has been sent to the imx revenue address pinned in #💰〕token
Over time that revenue has accumulated and eventually reached the amounts needed to fill the safety pool of $5m. After which time the balance of the revenue address was bridged to the DAO treasury wallet (also pinned on #💰〕token ).
Since the last withdrawal of that revenue there has continued to be an accrual of revenue in the imx revenue wallet.
I’d recommend using immutascan on that wallet to filter by withdrawals
Filtering by deposits or transfers would result in too many transactions
staking in illuvium is coming to an end, when is the question? no more liquidity bonuses. SLP sushi liquidity pool was so good to me. we must part, bon viaje, my friend! 😢
ouch, i think i stepped on a Uriastinger (Prime) stage 3, im afraid!
I see missions for ILV Zero, any updated version of the game to play?
We had to shut it off temporarily to test something. Hoping it will be back up tomorrow
So Illuvium Zero launch announcement tomorrow? No?
this plant just gave me 10,000 Silicon when I cleared it...just fyi, they all give you resources instead of coins in varying amounts
it's so depressing to see land price dipping so much and the game launch is right around the corner
really shatters my confidence for this project
when people is fearful or bored is Time to buy! 🙂 I like this project since 2021 and still holding all 7 lands and ILVs
anyone else still not seeing any points or hours from Season 1? I'm worried that all those hours I spent playing zero wont get recorded
Many are not seeing it. Because it’s not live. It’s not finished. It’s not published. It’s not been announced yet.
ok thank you
Guys I’m lost does the season for blue print already start
Or it will start when open beta comes out
Blueprints will not be functioning until launch open beta main-net
So should I start mining for it now or I can’t I need to open beta to be open
Is everything will reset
After open beta launch
So basically is thier is any point to start playing now or I need to open beta to lunch so after the reset happen
I’m goal is blue print
Hey guys, I bough a land and ive been trying to playo Zero and maybe I'm missing something but can't get to play it
to play it on testnet for the missions
We are waiting on some update announcements for Zero. Hopefully we will know more soon
It’s currently not publicly playable.
I'm anxious to see if ZERO will be officially implemented by the end of the year.
My guess is that it will be the year after next.
Sounds wrong. It’s scheduled to launch on July 25.
But, how are there quests with points in the testnet missions?
is anybody earning any points from Zero for testnet missions?
Ok I have one last question I can still playing it right like in the past without gaining anything or it closed
Doesn't sound fair if the rest of the people also bough the land xd and they are not earning aditional points
but i know it¿s not your fault, just saying
i bough mine thinking I was able to play and get points lol
What?
No clarification on the random spontanous version of Zero on purpose? Is this some kind Willy Wonka strange experiment? Does Scoriox have the golden ticket?
how to test? can i get access too?
the production and storage values each lvl of that building are weired. they make no sense. all over the board. my land has silicon landmark.
- why my storage capacity for solon is higher than crypton and hyperion when all storages have the same lvl?
- on info of production buildings you see the amount that is produced when you start "farming". on upgrade you see what you will get next lvl. but the old value plus the additional is not the same as the shown new total amount. simple example:
- production 1.000.
- raised by 3.000 on upgrade
- new amount produced: 5.000
- so it doesnt match. it is all over the board for producing buildings. sometimes it's correct. but most of the time its not.
- converters of normal materials: even after upgrade the passive producion stays at a 3min timer. it should grow with the duration a normal convert of a material takes.
What did u shut off that will be back tomorrow??
power consumption has an issue as well. I had 2.500 power and some buildings beside. some buildings to the north, where was another additional power station and 2 buildings to the south where has been no addition power stations. so the north ones can take power from 2 power stations. the buildings on the south only had one power station that is shared with north buildings. one of the south buildings stopped producing because of lack of power. but there clearly was more than enough power from the t4 power station.
i moved power stations around. but nothing helped. i can promise all buildings were at range to receive power. it seems, that consuming buildings take power from maybe the most close power station and ignore the other. so the north buildings took power from the power station that was in center and not from the one that was at north. then there was not enough power left from the center power station to give power to the south buildings.
- power delivery needs to be more clever.
- also we need to be able to shut down a building when suddenly you don't have enough power supply. we need to be able to control this when for example an upgrade of a power station takes 12 hours or more in higher levels. I dont want to move buildings out of that area to keep the rest running.
can i apply somewhere to ask for access to zero?
i recently bought a new land and id love to test it out
From what I've been reading, ILV Zero is currently still unplayable for most. I'm on Android, if it's any help.
Is this the case?
And is this going to change on the 25th?
Just read in land-owner that access is super limited. Question answered 🙏
nothing?
Wtf wtf wtf, its not fair 🥴
If we don't get any additional points for that delay i will sell all of my lands, its fckn unfair
Someone can play and collect points, the others cant, wtf?
I hit this issue too, but it seems that if you try to improve building efficiency by adding more power stations, power becomes a non-factor in the game. Did you find the same? If so, it's too bad because it seems like an interesting new mechanic to add.
yep
Realistically, all the points are in overworld right now. Even if you're playing arena you're missing out for the most part.
These 16k points they got from zero amount to nothing when people are getting 3M in overworld
those points are negligible and don't make any difference if you can get 4M poins in OW alone
It is your land. you can do with it want you want. Nobody forces you to keep it
Yes, I won't hit that 4M too. Only if they fix the exp milestones. Then it is an additional 1M poins that can be collected
But for now 4M is max for most people
yeah, to increase efficiency, you still need to build multiple power stations. upgrade dont increase. then they should in my opinion shut down the increase completly. why should it raise when you have multiple around the production building?
they should add a function about path and storage placing around the production unit to increase efficiency. that would make sense
No operation should be allowed to purchase LAND and leave it alone. There is no benefit to it.
I actually don't think that Version you can play is the newest build. It's appreciated to give feedback always, but it's probably outdated.
AT least i hope so, otherwhise labs has a lot to do in the Next 14 days for Zero 😄
@vivid cipher thanks for the helpful clarification. Implore the paid Team to invest in developing a much more clear and transparent dashboard for financial reporting. If under development, sharing even blacked out screenshots would be refreshing for Land NFT and ILV holders.
Yea that personal financial dashboard including all Games would be super nice to see
The absence of a ZERO item in the announcement's update content is also a cause for concern.
Its become truly a world of pure imagination
You talking about this?
Do you guys think the Land Price will sink or raise up ?
And is there a place where i can buy land cheaper than illuvidex
Dont really think that is easy
it takes more than 24 hours to complete the mission
voila
Ok I have one last question ,can I still playing Illuvium zero like in the past without gaining anything or it closed
NEW
I just tried to launch it it ask for update I did the last update by downloading last file in website but still same
I’m I missing something?
Yah... not available to download anywhere at this moment
just wait for open beta
everything will be shut down for a week anyway before launch if I understood scoriox
Someone tell me if it's worth it to buy a land
worth ofc if u can play
now we cant
If you can get a deal like this one it's def worth it 😄
omg
Damnnnnn
Wondering if t2 will be enough to subsidize my playing
Definitely looks like a hack
Might be the trades of the same person though... get some IMx rewards .. who knows really
Yeah could of been he accepted an offer from another one of his wallets to transfer eth around
you can do that for free through token trove, so more than likely something else
Yeah but some people don't know all the ways to do it just seems odd other than a hack
been here 18 months and finally hit my land goal due to all this fud and whining. If there's problems after july 25th only then is there cause for concern 
those are fake transactions . the seller just keeps selling to the same person ignoring other higher offers.
when is illuvium zero launched for real?
🇼 🇪 🇳 ⁉️
Oh dang. I mined Hyperion to get the 15 it said so I could upgrade my nexus. The bugger gave me 14...really. I think I'll uninstall & wait for the land to be playable. After all the work I've put in it says I have 0 points. Really not worth my time after seeing that. 😔
Not being a stinker, just frustrating waiting 24 hrs and be 1 short. I am at max build unless I update the nexus so.....
I can wait a couple more weeks after all this time already.
Yah it's still really grindy. I guess it's supposed to be but dang.
@tardy falcon
Ikr. It's absolutely rediculous. If the land is this nuts it'll drive me nuts...lol
My son got me into this saying it was going to bigger than sliced bread, so to speak, & I've seen nothing but utter frustration. I'm beginning to truly rethink spending hard earned money on land. It's all so up in the air, still, even though the 25th is def supposed to happen. I hope so.
Marketing has begun so yep... and all the games have to launch together. So maybe we don't get to experience the actual release til launch idk. But hope it's updated from the current build 😝
@tardy falcon
You and me both. If the land play is this grindy....oh my.
I totally agree with that 😝 LOL
Crypto is crazy as hell. I don't understand if this was a panic selling or urgency cash but that is just crazy.
how to fix local time not in sync too many requests - already sync my pc time
same
Imx, Illuvidex...and feel free to put offers in or snipe...they are moving around a lot lately
Iluvidex has the lowest fees
illuvidex has land?
yep...and illuvimaster
so lots of choces, but Illuvidex is lowest fee by 1%
all good
cant find in dex
you have to look for land tab
only 1 shows
there is only showing 1 land
ok now it shows
Yes, it's supposed to be grindy
No point in Building up a colony, if you have built it up Max in 24h
what are you looking to buy?
idk still have not think which land should i buy
all showing unlisted
low end is cheap and you get more areas for blue prints but no idea how much they will be worth, higher tier better for fuel
where is the price showing ?
yeah that is a glitch...most are listed..maybe go try illuvimaster or token trove
but low end in illuvidex is messed up
Since there's not a whole lot to do with Zero atm we can make a fun little poll...
Who thinks:
1️⃣ - Zero will officially launch before OB on testnet
2️⃣- Zero will officially launch with Arena and OW on the 25th
3️⃣ - Zero will be delayed for a month after OB
4️⃣ - There is a conspiracy and Zero will be indefinitely delayed
I'll take the over...no way they will have fuel ready by 25th
illuvimaster is just for info?
nope you can link a wallet and buy there too
Yah but this F2P plot is like hella grindy... but speed up credits would make it go a lot faster. So I think it's intentional to encourage purchases.
where is land options
or check a few illuvidex lands till you get out of the 300
417 is the first real land offered
you may have to double click on the land button but then it will pull them up by price and you can sort how you wish
good luck!
Idk haven't played too much... But feels Like a t2 out of Alpha build... No?
Illuvidex is prob the best for searching... can filter in different ways
they all unlisted
anyone with fix?
@radiant sky
Yes
Yah, but I think the absence of speedups makes it slow. Before the plants were generous.
You are on testnet.... switch to main net
No sandbox
how
They will force it in
Yea... That was just Way too much for free 😂
@tardy falcon
Absolutely. I'm going to play POGO for a while instead. Spoiler alert in case you start playing again, when you get to L47 you have to walk 25km 8 times in 1 week to level up. I maybe L47 for quite a while...lol
We don't know yet
@patent lake
Not much as it was before. First you have to mine enough resources and it takes 24 hrs per fuel type to produce
so what use of land for right now?
@patent lake
Hopefully it will be much better when the new version releases
i need more info
@patent lake
Playable Zero land release is scheduled for the 25th. At the moment you cannot do anything with it except wait for the updated version
@tardy falcon
😂
cant do anything ? not even any kind of prep ?
@patent lake
No. There is no access to it yet I don't believe
what about mine enough resources
@patent lake
Everyone gets to start fresh upon release is what I've been reading
so its full reset ?
@patent lake
No one knows yet. Until the release it's just speculation. Before it was a lot of grinding.
cany you tell me other benifit of owning land
check pins
do it have points for airdrop
Main benefits are selling fuel and blueprints. Fuel sales will allow land holders to earn 5% of all digital revenue Illuvium brings into the ecosystem
@patent lake
Yes, it said it's full reset, which I don't care for because I believe everyone had made a bit of progress; mined fuels, found blueprints, etc. We'll just have to do it all again, but it will be cool to see if it's been improved upon
@blazing ferry
Thank you for the clarification
np, and I just posted a new vid in #🎨〕community-content that shows the new features!
@blazing ferry
Oh cool
On Mainnet launch
Land will allow mining of Fuel that can be used in game
Land will entitle the owner to a share of 5% of all in-game purchases divided between all landholders/tiers
You can sell fuel you mine
You can search for blueprints and possibly sell those as well
What am I missing?
Supposed to be able to get airdrop points but for now not too many
@blazing ferry
I will def watch it tomorrow as I'm falling asleep at the moment.
I tried yesterday to buy some land, but I cant add funds in immutable wallet... 😦
today I have to research how to fix that,,, i am getting there 🙂
You don't want to put funds in passport yet I think. Just normal IMX.
yeah , here
and you have balances> add funds
and I press there to add funds and it said is not available in my country yet
when I choose debit card,,
Should be able to add with metamask
use vpn?
Gm everyon, how to fix. "Local Time not in Sync"
travel?
When I open Illuvium this is the first thing I saw
Do we need buy others asset for lannd. too?
Sounds like the game is down
If you want to mine fuel and search for blueprints then land is all you need
If you want to build your land faster you can buy speedup credits in the game
But there isn't any EXTRA thing you NEED in order to use land
Ok thanks, I think I need to wait
How much speedup credit cost?
And what's the lvl for
In the current version these are the credit pricing… idk if it will change or not
Wdym by lvl?
Sry I still don't know what you are asking
Land has level ?
It's increasing with process
Ah yah... lands increase in level the more actions you do. Currently you get 1 speedup credit free for every five levels you reach... the higher the level the longer it takes to climb
ok
thanks
Can we move every building in land ?
No... the elements and fuels are fixed to the deposit positions on the land. Other buildings can be moved.
Ok so how bonus works ?
I heard some building gives bonus
mmm idk what you mean
But there are land tier bonuses
t1 no bonus
t2 33% bonus elements
t3 100% bonus elements
t4 300% bonus fuel
something like that
Then idk, not sure
What use of elements?
Elements upgrade buildings and are used only in Zero
and for starting certain processes in zero
Just upgrading levels... different max level for different buildings
Ok so building has level too
yep
What's the max lvl
The idea of Zero is that you get all buildings to max level and most optimally placed for max efficiency of fuel production and or biodata searching
max level depends on each building type
How will it look like in mainnet to use our lands? We need to use the link external wallet (MetaMask) to IMX passport ?
Technically that MetaMask account is already linked to IMX but not to passport I guess…
2 t1 is better or 1 t2 is good ?
Lands
Depends on how much time you want to spend per day playing. And if you want to focus on blueprints, 2 T1 should be better.
How much time 1 land takes?
Really depends
Do you want to suffer once or twice 🤪
Just kidding... land takes a while to build up. So if you have two t1 then you are spending twice the time or more... if you are ok with that thenm it's not an issue. But as for fuel production Spoon might know the numbers better
T1s really mostly for blueprints imo. Fuel production is very slow compared to T2 already
Any big defences between t1 and t2?
t2 gets going a bit faster.... but not much faster. Has 3 fuel sites though so less need for conversion.
So it's seems like t2 is better
converters did get nerfed so t2 prob gonna be faster than before
What's the conversion for ?
or t1 slower rather
fuel and element converters convert fuel and elements to different types. But now they cannot give greater than 1:1 at max efficiency
Btw the airdrop is still going on after the launches of ow?
yes
We don't have any kinda mission for zero yet ?
How long
they have set aside a lot of ILV for airdrop
IDK distribution schedule
I would able to buy better land wit ilv 😂
I know there is a vesting period... or you can withdrawl half immediately
Only half
but if you withdrawl then the other half is forfeited
yes... otherwise wait til vesting period is over and you get whole thing
check illuvidex floor price sort by lowest
Those are the bonus for element or fuel
t3 boosts one element
t4 boosts one fuel type
O yes this is I was talking about when I ask for bonus
ahh okay
yah t3 boosts one element by an extra 25% I think
And t4 boosts on fuel by 25% something like that
Is it random elements?
How much is cap for fule and elements?
wdym cap?
you build storage buildings in the game to hold more capacity
Isn't there any capacity to store
Is there a possibility to let a scholar play and make transactions without providing wallet?
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Illuv...
We have scholer system?
no... there are ways to do it though
This just lets them play, but no way for them to do transactions. Bummer, wish something was built similar to a funded account on trading.
This is the safest way imo... otherwise they can transfer lands and fuel
I suspicied that illuvium zero isn't downloaded here. I think it's need dowload by Epic games packet. Please remove this:
I don't think Epic has it neither
thansk for help @tardy falcon
I think it's not priority XD
They have bigger fish to fry right now
Buuuuut... Aaron did say this a bit ago
is there a wat to play zero at all at the moment?
I have 2 land plots
the downloadable one keeps giving me 'obsolete version' message
but daily missions and milestones are there
man, thanks for being so helpful🙏
The bonus applied to Elements, fuel and storages for all tiers
I have to bring a little levity because we all wonder the same thing... why are tasks and milestones there but Zero is absent from being playable. But, magically some people are playing it. But it's not available to download (anymore). And it's only playable on android rn. It's all a little bit... CRAAAAZY 
Goodnight landowners... our drought will end... there will be fertility and crops a plenty in due course. This be thine heartfelt feeling to carry on through the times o' emptiness and dust.
got it
I just decided to check on it just now and was sure that I'm missing something
I'm new to this app, but I'm pretty sure it has been more than 24 hours. Is it like this for everyone?
The game itself is currently not out yet
So how is the new build of zero? Haven’t played since the BP minting phase was over
Not great, but I have no prior knowledge to compare to.
are we testing iz
apparently, no announcement tho
Can someone just explain to me when will illuvium zero be live to play and actually mine resources to sell? I’m confused with all these test stages?
...and when can we play Zero again on PC?? Since several weeks now down! Can not attend in the Rewards programm anymore!!!! @amber atlas @vagrant rock 🙏
Kinda? I put in 17 bugs so far and finally got my first response yesterday:
You're welcome
u can download the game?
Not anymore, it was on the google play store for a while though
u still got the .apk file?
doesn't look like it
oooo, nice i downloaded it
oh opsy i think i deleted it last week lol
👀
Which week though? Isn't it Friday night there?
More news 3 weeks from now
I hope we can play ZERO on PC this week.
Guys how much time needed for 1 day mission
Depends on the progress of your land if its max out , you can do it a day
Full day for mission is crazy bro
I have 2 hiurs is it good
No bro cause once you max , just need like 5-30 mins to Collect and mine again
Ok i will play
Thanks
Welcome
Changes were made just now for that play store version. Must be on the backend because I didn't need to install any update and still don't see it back on the play store.
But they fixed passive element generation for example! 🔥
No update information on ZERO, right?
It's a prediction s, but I'm 100% sure that ZERO will not be ready for release and that we will be notified of the postponement the day before release.
I believe that we need to speak out more against the management to make it a priority.
There have been little bits… Kieran stated in a tweet that all is on schedule, Aaron said yesterday zero deployment is looking good, current patch notes mention something about zero this week.
Hi everyone, i have a question..how to complete these quests in Zero mode?
bought a land hour ago and cant see on the app 😦
It will be on main illuvidex not testnet
just want to see my new tier 2 land 🙂
Awww man, I was so close to having ten coins for a second builder.... Now it's 120, ouch!
How to buy a land? i can not find it
go to imx marketplace and buy there
Make sure you're not in the "sandbox" Illuvidex. Not this: sandbox.illuvidex.illuvium.io/zero/lands. Yes this: illuvidex.illuvium.io/zero/land
Yes. It's on EPIC store
How do you connect your land?
Yes must dowload Epic Games. Ehen You finish downloAD 20Gb, will go a new update and will need dowload a new version. The never ending story.
It took 30 seconds to download zero
Well lookie that
Cheeeeehoooooo!!!!
Ikr /:
Now looks like 3 builders max also
yes, its on epic... but only see the free plot.
hope we will be able to play our own plots in test as well
does anyone see the real plots?
brightlands for me
doubtful... our lands are on main net.
When and how have we to move it?
Where to download for phone
Not on iOS yet
I'm on android
Yah I didn't see it there... would be so nice on ios tho FR
Should be on there asap
Downloading ZERO now
Geez it the game fits the whole screen you can't make it a little bit smaller
Has anyone gotten it to work on android yet
very buggy zero on wide monitor on epic
Another fuel burning for the Land Owners
how do you enable more structures slots? im 12/12 cant build more
nvm just need to upgrade Nexus... coundt do it because it was on airdrop mode
cant buy land the marketplace isnt loading land plots?
i downloaded game and you can play it without buying lands
yee but u cant earn money from them, i just want to look at some plots
i think it comes later... idk
nvm its fixed just now
I safed my coins to be able to buy a builder. And now price went up to 120 xD
That's all we get right now
ahh ok, thought imx wasnt linked or something
how much was it before?
10 xD
shttt it was cheap af
But i also only got 1coin per 5lvl
i wonder at what lvl i get 120
Now i got 10 for next lvl up
I am not surprised it was like 20 dollars to unlock all builders
right now i have 32 and im lvl 18
So it got just a bit more expensive
ahh and only 3 builders to 5 it used to be lol
dam
5 builders is a must at the start
But is safed up for 40 lvls now and had 8 coins. With new system now i would have 80
So they just cutted my coins ^^
Glad it's testnet
thank god they lowered the fully grown plants from 30 mins to 5
Oh, that's good
i also got that
they grow over time
would you say like one a day?
They grow all the time so u can continue clear them
Anyone get it to download on their android phone yet? Any insights on how to do so?
How do yo turn off the auto extract?
Activity-Production-Turn off Repeat
Thanks
Where can u dl the latest build
epic games
So are IZ players just strong-armed out of earning anything for Pre-Season 2?
It's nothing new we got used to it after 2 years
Still worth shouting about.
Still can't download it on Google play yet
shoot should my passport be the same email addy as my alpha account? Missed that part
woomp womp
any1 seeing his own lands?
ive hear on the transmission that they contract a game dev and a new enginier only for zero and they will push up the develpment of it for the next 12months
Please, I just want my Zen Garden back.
GIVE IT BACK!!!
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
happy all now xD
It’s time.
hehehe xD
so still can't use our personal lands since on test net?
YAY!
it's still just the f2p plot, since land nft's are on mainnet, right?
No chance to connect it somehow to be able to play our own land?
You won’t be producing real fuel yet.
Probably. That is how it’s been up until now.
I want to mint them to you
but alas
im only but 1 man
and i dont know how
yea, can't help you out with that 😄
just downloaded zero on the store (android), cant see plots - any idea?
would have been nice to test the new balance, but i guess we will see it sooon anyways
same here, its normal?
why would it be normal xD
I doubt they havent tested it on android before realeasing it on store
I was able to get my land plot to show up along side the f2p plot on the last version when it was on PC. Not sure if that was setup different but I cant seem to find a way to do it now through the passport login. I must have been able to link my wallet directly to it before
test net and main different chains right? sooo, ya makes sense
same here
ya the testnet is a completely separate environment
Also downloaded on ios. How to get back our plots?
You don’t see your mainnet plots.
how to delete builded paths?
botom right the slide
sorry, we are not allowed to play our own plots yet?
i just have one free t3 plot, it is ok?
thanks 😉
Same question. If so when will ours be available?
Congrats on launch guys btw🚀❤️
Zero daily/weekly missions are undoable, why they even exist?
i cant believe that there is not explanation about that on the announcement
prepared for mainnet
i guess
but @whole spear wrote in announcement "Missions and Airdrop Points: Complete missions to earn airdrop points connected to the Beta build on Sepolia." - is it a joke?
so any purchase in ILz has to be made using FIAT?
And how would that work if i have multiple plots? Are the credits bound per plot?
what lvl you are?
Am I supposed to uninstall the previous version or...?
98... not sure it goes above that
i mean you can try... i guess if you go hard you can collect some dailies at the end of testnet
sure, but that sounds like a joke
"no power to start activity" ? how to get power?

powerstations 😄
Power stations
wennnnnnnnn
Remember not to buy the builders right now since this isn't mainnet
when mainnet?
Scheduled for July 25 with the other games.
💀
hey guys
Thanks, I wait for that then
why would you bother connecting your lands with the testnet thing for just 6 days now
I have the same question
No.
thanks
The mainnet land is not connected to the testnet game
oh ok that makes sense
Will the current passport from IMX be transitioned over to mainnet ?
Or it will probably be the passport that we already use to collect gems there I guess
It’s currently possible to use that passport account on other websites
Yeah
Does buying coins cost real money but it will all be erased soon?
Yes so don't buy the coins
That's no fun. 🙂
Btw I just tried Zero on my iPhone and it looks dope! Loving the new animations and UI overhaul!
What does paths do / how do they work?
I trusted it. Doesn’t give you gems though
they reduce building time of your buildings
decrease time needed for activities
Can't build any extractor on desktop
enjoy everyone, we‘ve been waiting so long for this 💪
So do land holders get 5% of the coins brought in app or u going to screw us over since it's in fiat
So my build time is increases 1% here?
The game crashes on my phone and doesn't start. What android version is supported by Illuvium Zero? I could run the Alpha version without any problems
decreased
the more buildings you connect with paths, the higher the % number gets
Let’s go!
5% with just a few buildings
Now we just need to know what actual fuel prices will be
i guess it can get quite high in the end.
Dang how long you been playing?
didn't play too much tbh
i guess there are people way higher than me
Any point playing this, land wiped again on 25th?
Is it normal your plots don’t appear? Just a free to play plot?
knowledge, feedback, bug report etc.
How can excavators be upgraded?
Few things have changed
The Illuvium Zero app on Andriod doesnt start up
click the upgrade button 🙃
Cheers il check it out but not go mental with game time then haha
yes. same problem here
imo, absolutely not.
especially with the mutated plants later on
And it seems now that you can pay to speed up fuel production. Wasn't always stated that this will never happen?
So basically now it's a race to who pays more to get his plot(s) to max and get more 'shares' out of the landholder revenue pool?
No strategy .. no fun .. just pay and build as fast as you can
it just crashes
But where?
Damn looks like it will be like 200 dollars for all builders
I thought they just released this new version.
need to stop the activity in the activities tab
but if u start and the whole land is full of plants, it takes ages to be able to start building...
yeah and take into account you can now pay to speed up fuel production
Yeah they need to change that
Thanks
lol .. we would only wish
for a short time window there was another build online on playstore.
they took it down fast as they realized people found it
i didn't have had a single plant when i started
This is some next level brain power needed for this update. Thought it would be more simple / intuitive
Yeah people would drop alot to fully build their land out
Is it only this 1 free to play plot? I don’t see my own plots
i hope the complexity level rises with future updates 🙃
Correct til mainnet is released
i started with the new beta which was just released and mine was full
you don't have any plots on sepolia testnet. So you cannot see any
probably the lucky guy with a bug and got ton of resources
just have a look at other new plots like
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message
Anyone have a TestFlight code?
It seems now that you can pay to speed up fuel production. Wasn't always stated that this will never happen?
Maybe we can get a confirmation on this? @noble quest
yea super bad idea!
i hope that's just for testnet and gets changed.
my PC bluescreened. ILVZ + illuvium is to much for my poor computer
guys I have a question, to extract the materials, can't I extract it while I'm not in the game? Do I have to do it manually?
If it's happening it's very worrying imo
It's the worst
I get this everytime I click on finished building and reload the plot and again it fails, I cannot build any more buildings, I cannot do anything...
15 plants (prime)=
🧐
Is there some explanation how paths work now?
nope
build paths... connect buildings...get activity time decrease
Yep ... well is it confirmed? we will have that? or HOPEFULLY it's only for testnet
you play the latest build?
Playing on multiple devices?
Stable internet connection?
Tried to restart the device after installing the game?
I dont see any of my real land plots in the latest IZ only the one plot i never play'd
LF an answer too. surprised to be able to accelerate fuel generation
yea, i guess we all are
Just downloaded the build from Epic, playing on PC, restart the game, and yes stable internet gigabit connection. and no I wont restart my PC because of not working game
Can you really?
yes
yep
it's costy tho... but still
How to get a testflight code?
i dont think you can, it just look like that when you have no credits
you would see fully built out t4 on day 1 probably, getting the big pie of those non fuel based purchases which we likely have many in the early phase of mainnet.
Like purchases in IZ shop... maybe disks... promo disks for sure... etc.
oh, i don't know that actually... i'm a brokie, don't have enough coins to start it
I cant speed up fuel generation and I have enough coins 🤓
Seems like someone is mistaken or there’s a bug With the build.
when i click it
Seems like a UI quirk to me
that window for sure has to change if you can't, otherwhise people buy and can't use it 😄
Phew ..hopefully just a bug
No bueno, but mo bueno than being able to use credits to speed up fuel gen
they want you to buy coin that you wont be able to use for it 
I will raise it, no worries
Thank you!!
So no one has actually used credits to speed up fuel production?
Now that we are in Beta... are anything new to credits use? Are we going to be able to buy them for PC?
It says that only from mobile you will be able to buy
I just opened the Beta... give me a few sec lol
can we play on our owned lands? or only on the free to play ?
Not purchasable using pc.
I’m saying it’s not possible.
no, when you have enough credits the button is disabled
i'm not yet in fuel management 
That’s what I thought.
Because I’ve been testing it for awhile. But only on iOS.
Hi! How do I disable the auto-start of resource production?
No. Your mainnet lands your not usable on the testnet game.
activities tab
go to "activity tab"
what about the use of credits? I don't have any mobile device at the moment, am I going to lose something?
That is definitely part of the UI that could be improved
I want to upgrade the building. But I can't do it because of the automatic start of production. How can I upgrade the building?
You should be fine.
Turn off the auto start in ACTIVITIES. Cancel activity in activities.
Does seem like the timers keep going when I just minimize the app on my android
Any tips what to do?
Thank you so much, man!
yea, activity tab is king now.
i feel everything should be doable with clicking on your land without using that tab window.
what to build, or anything
Follow the GOALS
discord noob here: How do I post a picture in this chat?
Should lead you right along
Can’t. Too noob
Or wait… try now.
I think you just leveled up
@vivid cipher is the timers suppose to keep going even when u only minimize the app
@vivid cipher give me your in-game name... I'll hunt you in the Arena
Yeah. The timer should be going even if you close the game.
soooo how do we get the beta code for iOS testflight?
I feel like the link in #📣〕announcements should be enough
I had to do it a couple times for TestFlight to link it properly
i downloaded testflight and it said that a dev needs to invite you
how to get energy?
Well if I close completely out of it does but if I just like change the window on mobile it just plauses
why does it says "No Power to start Activity"
general approach: focus on non-fuel resources first. as you progress, build enough power plants and storage buildings as well as upgrading buildings
New mechanic. Use power stations.
Does builders hired in the test plot will be available on the future on my own plot ? Or should I buy them again ?
Got it thanks
No. Nothing from testnet is transferred to mainnet.
Is that desired that the "repeat" button rely to the hardware ?.
Like i did all my building in repeat mode on my phone. then opened on my computer and all was unable
Ok thx !
got it now thanks
You should not be able to pay real money for anything.