#🎮〕illuvium-zero
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Thats like a estimated price tho, since we dont know what the actual pricing will be
u get $15 worth of fuel at highest price
thats the exact amount of fuel u receive, theyll determine how much fuel 15$ is worth on a laterdate, afaik
could be 45, could be 3500
@whole spear @vivid cipher any of u around? could u unmute @dusky copper he tried to give me link for info and got muted
The 50k haven't been dropped yet. For long term ILV Stakers, ILZ holders as well as Beyond holders and traders of these assets. Not sure when it's due to be dropped but it's a thankyou from ILV team.
Actually I'm not sure it's 50k...
Maybe less.
Pelican answered it here.
It's 50k ilv tokens
Yeah I double checked Pelicans post.
Hey guys, it it still worth to buy a land? And if so, which ressources are the most important/necessary to have? I will HODL the land, but I am a bit overwhelmed from all the ressources, because it is not clear for me which ressource you need for what. I will only play a bit by myself, some friends will play even more. Would be great when somebody can give me some more infos, thx guys! 🙂
?fuel
In the Illuvium Universe, there are three different types of fuel Hyperion, Solon, and Crypton. These fuels are used in the Illuvium ecosystem for various purposes, such as curing shards, crafting weapons and upgrades, and traveling to different regions. Fuel production is driven by Illuvium Zero
In Illuvium: Overworld
- Hyperion is used to cure shards and capture Illuvials,
- Solon is used to craft weapons, armor, and other upgrades,
- Crypton is used to travel to different regions.
In Illuvium: Zero
Hyperion, Solon, and Crypton are commonly used in high-level buildings. These fuel types may be required in order to build or upgrade certain structures
if ure buying land check the positioning and types of the other resources too, not just fuel
if u have 3 different resource spawns is kind of best, but positioning of those also matters
it will balance out some things during ur growth
Make filter of 1 of each element site (if tier1)
And choose the one with mines that are close to each other (position matters for better effinciency)
Tbh the price of these kind of lands got higher for the last 2 days
I was lucky I bought a good one with 530$
ye, make sure the price isnt too high, u can adapt , but dont overpay too much
but ye, ppl r gifting them at this point. back in the days it was on total random what u gonna get and u paid more
that shit should cost a lot more imo : p
I just checked .. the good ones start from 850$
sounds about right for t1 with good position and all resources
theres more factors tho, if u wanna go deeper u gotta go check the land
being near a whale that is close to completing a megacity is
also a bonus
seen whales pay insane amounts of money for t1
to finish megacity
How can you know that tho
there was a big map with all the lands
idk the link anymore tho
it was basically ilv's world on a map
Yeah i know that map but how can you know that you gonna be close to a whale
Oh yeah true
unfortunately, my land is a corner piece : D meaning, cant have megacity , unless they sell more lands
i also have 2 out of 3 resources only.. not that great positioning... 😄
actually positioning not bad, but yes : D could be better
Don't you dare even mentioning additional landsales 😛
T1 or t2?
T1
Oh that's not cheap haha, do you know floor of t2?
Or maybe you can find some good ones with good positioning and only 2 types of elements with 600$
thx dude, your conversation helped me out! But for 850 you get only one without Hyperion and Solon Trench right?
in t1 lands u only get one fuel site (either hyperion or solon or crypton) and 3 element sites
and u can buy converters after
u build the converters
u spend 1 type of fuel to get another
with some extra in return
but with 17/24 hour cooldown depending on path around the converter
u also get passive fuel from converters
which comes more and more often, the more u upgrade them
anyone understands how path works in IZ ?
But they get a rework for Beta Version of IZ
apparently it's not the case .. as I saw from the timer, it's considered as 4 sides
bcs I cant move them
Haven't logged in for a while, but should be 3 sides.
That you can't move them to surround all sites is just Bad luck.
But again, they get reworked anyways. Lets See how they will work in Beta 🙂
yeah right
thansk
The updated Zero game is not ready yet. Only Overworld and Arena are launching at the moment.
We still don't know when it will be ready.
oh thx so mutch
how he have this information about money drop city plot
or this screan in game
no zero in announcements 🥲
can we use land ?
Sorry I don't understand what you're asking
You can play the old version if you have land yes. The new updated game is not ready.
oh how i play ?
You will not gain anything from playing your land now.
is it testnet ?
No
so if Zero isnt resetting, that means Zero will not be a part of the reward program correct?
we can install the game ?
Yes
The airdrop program has multiple phases. Some of it will use a free-to-play version of Zero (not yet)
Just not on iOS. https://zero.illuvium.io/
how soon will we see the amount of airdrop points we will accumulate?
i have android bruh thx mate
I recommend you to check out the announcement channel for more info on the airdrop and testnet.
I have no idea
Yeah no info on when the airdrop points leaderboard (or whatever it will be called) will be available
Though I have a feeling that won’t be until sometime after May 28.
Whats the floor price of land
Tokentrove is usually pretty accurate
Look at that!
So now if WE dont have play
Is dead
im connect but how i link my account its bug
That big blank white screen website error is gonna be due to something on your side.
Don’t do that.
Don’t use that passport page for anything right now because none of that has anything to do with testnet
You should contact support. They’ll be the best chance to help you figure out what’s wrong.
Support does not work through discord.
Contact #❓❓〕support through the website shared in the #❓❓〕support channel. Or look for HELP(?) in the top menu of the illuvium website.
ok thx
GM! Really curious how big the loyalty bonus will be for land owners from day 1, which did all farming until all 15 Illuv. where minted...😉 .. ahh and I staked also since 2 years a small portion of Ill Token...🤣 . Someone any idea? Did someone already made some calc? 🤗
Can't Make any calcs yet, since there is no numbers besides the total drop
i dont find how connect metamask only immutable
The IlluviDex and other immutableX marketplaces use metamask to control the imx wallet.
Forgot traders and beyond 🙃
And weighting
Meh. Just assumed those are the same people as the other groups. lol
i canttttttttttttttttt
how do you register for PB4?
Does this means, we can now play ILZ on iOS within 24 hours?
Don't think IZ is Part of Pb4.
But we shall See soon
awee mann, ios users so left out lol. but alright atleast we should get pb4 OW access code hopefully.
I think they said not long ago there will be an ios version ready for open beta (not testnet).
Doesn't look like it.... but I think your play time does count towards the loyalty airdrop
Time played up until april 14th.
For the loyalty airdrop. But the play to earn airdrop for the time being I fear we won’t be able to play IZ
9 pm utc first ones
At one point Kieran said June, I think they do hope to have it in OB testnet for at least part of the first airdrop
Arena requires less pc requirements than overworld does right?
Play time is not one of the criteria for the loyalty airdrop at all.
Any info about how much of the 20k is for PB4 and how much is for OB testnet?
They just said PB4 players will get a flat number of airdrop points, so it's not like they are accumulating playtime for the airdrop ahead of everyone else
I see, tho i dont understand what they mean by flat number. Does it mean I get an airdrop if I get in PB4 regardless if I play or not? As long as I get selected?
Yep
Aight, thanks. Now I really hope I get selected.
@whole spear 👋
Gm, May I ask
ILZ, if have bug, reach out to who?
OW I know click B...
ILZ I try that for luck.. :X
It’s the same game build.
From what I remember There’s a button in setting of #🎮〕illuvium-zero to take you to contact support.
You can always contact support on the website and make a bug report there. Support does not work through discord.
Contact #❓❓〕support through the website shared in the #❓❓〕support channel. Or look for HELP(?) in the top menu of the illuvium website.
Hi Pelican,
in game? help and support button direct me ILZ web page only.
Correct. IZ does not have an in game bug report system
@weary bluff is right again about the airdrop lol
Which part in paticular? He's like a Gatling gun with his comments and predictions. He's bound to get some of it right.
he said its gonna be small and miss the bull
I don't know about miss the bull, but yeah it could be small depending on the amount of bots farming. I think if you lock up for the 12 months then yeah it may be close to the end of bull, and negate any bonus you receive. A lot of macro factors gonna effect the market though over the next 12-18months.
if the airdrop point is calculated based on activity, it could mean that you need to spend some money to be competitive
F2P farmers gonna find it hard, while speculative spender wont get the airdrop in a long time
for the land owners .. they took a snapshot for those who had it 14 april or you gotta have it now ?
ye , well that was obvious af
when will loyalty airdrop be receive?
that on 14th was for the access i believe
the loyalty should be unrelated
i can pretty much guarantee that land owners will not get 1 ilv. i can also pretty much guarantee that stakers will get most of it
after all we are token project, not gaming project
50k airdrop 20k land
what do u thinj lol
well.. considering that stakers received stuff all the time
i can see how land owners COULD/SHOULD be prioritized for bigger portion
but we are talking about the most incompetent team in web3
they dont use brains much
otherwise i wouldnt be here tryna explain shit to ppl
today is the day tho, today the fall of ilv begins
fasten your seatbelts and hug ur bags, cuz its about to get ugly
The way I see it top of bullrun historically begins around 6 months after halving which only just occured, and will probably go into 2025. So with minimum 6 months vesting, up until 12 months max, by the time you can cash out the peak will be behind us indeed. So the need to sell off is pretty much gone and you might as well keep it staked for passive income and THAT might be the exact reason they chose this way; retention of players.
land could get more than stakers if its based on money invested and duration
logically why would u hold for the bear
zero point to hold anything post peak
and wait 3 more years
do not hold anything . i made that mistake, went from 22k$ to 1.5k$ cuz i was holding.
the logical reason should be less selling pressure so token go higher
its good for us holders
also if my prediction and the bad moves of ilv come to pass... there will not be ilv for next bull
not so much for farmers
itll be dead game
i wouldnt say that, axie is still around
uve woken up kinda optimistic, arent u : D
haha
i dont see ppl fighting to play axie
more than my expectation
just wanna give u some hopium
I will hold a fixed amount long time for revdis. If you believe in the project then that makes perfect sense. And if you spend so much time in here talking about this game you probably do believe in this thing long term.
ilv is built on copium guys like u brother
but more and more are opening their eyes
ive been there tho. back in the days i thought ilv team was the superior in web3
theyve proven me wrong
I thought the top was 12 months after halving? But I forget
top for me was november 11th i believe
Its different now we have ETF open.
i am going to give you an advice
take it or leave it.
ppl are smarter than last bull. many of us got burned heavily, ppl will sell, sell pressure will be so high that we might not see such things as everyone is expecting. so be careful.
never count on maybe's
yea i believe in long term. i always stake for 12 months. ru saying u gonna sell some of your token around the peak?
its the early peak theory because we made ath early
oh yea im expecting people who got round tripped last bull gonna take profit. Thats why ill be happy with $350 (was $500 before)
Ofcourse. Everyone will take some winnings. Even Kieran said as much.
no no, my prediction is that on every 10k btc is pushing, mass sell off is following
theres enough market manipulation as it is without such sell pressure
imagine when ordinary ppl start selling shit
what could be and what will be r 2 different things
i guarantee ppl will sell a lot, everything.
not even talkin bout ilv, everything.
Nah. Been around a few bullruns now, people are euphoric when things are booming and somehow have no plan to sell off prepared. There are a lot of newbies in the space who are going to hold on to their crypto thinking it will just go on and on. Typical newbie fomo.
But every other cycle was 12 months no?
And then that sudden double digit plunge comes as a cold shower, and they are no longer crypto virgins 😆. But the space is growing so there will be fresh newbies for the years to come
Not that that is a guarantee for this time but yeah, the most interesting period starts 6 months post halving and ends around 6 months after that. I would not wait that long though personally to sell off if that is the intention.
by the end of the year ur bags should be empty
most likely before ilv airdrop has even ended
I sold quite a bit of SOL, ADA and XRP after 6 months last cycle. Then literally missed all the gains, and bought back for the last 2x then held through hell. Was a wild ride
^ can guarantee that at this point
axxaxa, yeah, u are the dudes hes talking about in the sentences above, that was me too. this wont happen again on such large scale , ppl got smarter
i would have agreed with him if it was the previous bull, but these 4 years werent such a happy ride during this bear
ppl know what loss is
It will still happen at scale if new people join. But yeah should be interesting
i doubt that many are being onboarded
I've heard last bear was brutal too? Not sure, but yeah retail is yet to join
cheap chains wouldnt be in such bad condition if they were
idk, i could be projecting due to my own mistakes : D
I've seen many vets say that this bear was just as bad as past bears and things like that
yeah, i doubt it tbh
22k to 1.5k
is my experience
there hasnt been that big pumps to do such things.
Well, if the bullruns get smaller every time in %, then so is the crypto winter drop. I think the very first bullrun was 140.000%. This time they predict it’s around 600%. So imagine that first drop compared to the one that is coming, it is ever more stabilizing.
Oh for sure, it'll slowly mature
ye and after those 140 000 how much it dropped?
Its pretty hard to take the extremes seriously in crypto. The perma bears are wrong in the bull market and the perma bulls are wrong in the bear market.
Lots of money can be made in crypto and hopefully illuvium if your smart about when you invest.
You'll be right eventually @weary bluff but land and illuvium might just win before it is as bad as you say
i wish i wasnt right brother, trust me , but unfortuantely things are easy for me to calculate and predict
sometimes i regret not being an idiot
would make my life so much easier
Last bull I had invested like my first 25k around 2017. That went down to less than 1k at the lows. I think the last bear was actually not as bad but pretty close.
i guess it also depends in what u invested
but yeah, seems about right
Mostly ETH and a token that died. But it didn’t matter. 2017 bear everything went down about 90%. I thought that maybe crypto was dead. My investments were so down that I preferred to let it all go to zero than sell since it was all worth so little.
Prices went down so fast that it caught me off guard.
Trust me, the 2017 bear was a lot more brutal.
did that eth pay off over time?
did u end up holding till 4k +
Yeah. Used it to get ILV. I’m about break even point atm.
jeez hahaha : D
just make sure u drop any ilv this bull , cuz there wont be a next one for ilv
We shall see soon. The direction the game is going will be in sight soon with the launch of Overworld in 24hrs.
no, the direction the game is going is clear with the decisions theyve made for airdrop and investors
token will do fine this bull, but there will be no games next bull, so token will naturally be useless
theyve set it up to pump one last time, make sure u exit
I get that you don’t like the decisions made around the token. But if the game is really good, it can make a difference. Addicting gameplay can bring in the spending whales like it happens in mobile games. Mobile games mostly depend on a small group of whale gamers to bring in the profits.
no, ppl need to make money in order to sustain a game, they sacrifice investors for the token
which will cause a chain reaction, assets will be useless = so no gamers.
whales cannot sell if theres nobody to sell to
or itll be sooo low prices, that there wont be point bothering
I meant spending whales that are spending because they love the game, not because they are looking for profits. Like traditional gamer whales of web2.
true, true. but 200 ppl cannot sustain such ecosystem, they need us. they wont have us.
mark my words, ull see a video " the rise and fall of illuvium" and ull think of me some day.
We shall see very soon. No point in stressing over it now. I’ll hope for the best as from what I’ve seen from the leaks and promised future feature… gives me hope.
there is no question about quality in ilv, never has been. its the decisions they make htat will ruin it.
seen it in kieran's responses, hes afraid of what we will do and how we will react, seen the responses of johnny, he knows theres bad decisions being made too
i guess the ydo have some clue of whats bout to happen if they look at the big picture
its about damage management at this point
I get it. I think everyone is still learning. Crypto is always evolving. Hopefully the DAO can help steer the scary waters for the good of us all.
ahahhahahaHAHAHAHAHAHHA
dao he said
dao is the reason why we r fked
ok ilv team too, but yeah, dao is useless.
even worse, its bad for us.
i just hope token pumps enough to reduce our losses from land
Having just a dictator captain steering the ship can also be a negative. There is no perfect solution.
same goes for beyond tbh, poor souls just feed the beast
illuvitars... hahaha , we r so screwed : D
Have a little hope brother. The quality is there.
no amount of quality can save bad decision making, unfortunately.
even if we put another 200 mil in ilv, still same people will pull triggers, still bad stuff will happen.
just watch, its coming.
starting today.
never get dumped, always do the dumping
- famous nft trader
do u feel the dao has power over kieran?
If you really believe its so bad why are you here? and why are you so active here? Are you trying to save us ? Seems odd behavior to hang out in a forum you have no faith in? What is your motivation?
not when hes announcing things first and giving info later.
love being right. also i got passion for gaming, had faith in the team, thought the world of them and this project, they somehow managed to turn me into what u see today. didnt sleep 3 days to manage to buy land with all the money i had.
now its about helping the community more than anything else.
If I read between the lines, it sounds like you over invested and are now salty about the delays.
i dont see land owner role on you, so you wouldnt understand as the rest of us
not really, what i had 2 years ago is not what i have now. ive forgotten these 600$ long time ago..
I bought land in the auction, and have bought more since
then im also fighting for you, because u might not realize it,but land is worth nothing to the team or council.
they say ilv got 1.4m from 72m and thats how they treat us.
they burned the rest to boost token and now we are on the bottom of the food chain, its all bout the token here.
As it should be.... The land is important, but the whole ecosystem revolves around the ILV token
nope, token had to be what boosts the games, not game investors boosting token.
If Ilv does well Land will have more scope to do well as well
Well I wish you well on your crusader, Ive heard everything I need to hear
If he is not a paid shill I hope he finds something better to use hes days on soon✌️
Yeah right... not in a million years
😂 ye im definitely gettin paid by every web3 game to fud ilv
Love @weary bluff or hate him, he is an important part of our ecosystem. Yang to the optimists Ying. I believe his heart is in the right place and his concerns are valid even though nauseatingly on repeat at times.
I didn't want to listen to what he had to say at first because it is hard to hear. But when you see the cracks that he points out, it starts to make you question too.
I have hope for Illuvium, but we are getting to the point where our concerns are valid and the situation is as bad as he predicts or the team has done better than expected and we are going to do well.
Time will tell.
How you can take a person saying that the illuvium team are the most greedy and incompetent team in web3 seriously is mindblowing to me. Everything has not been perfect, far from it. But come on. Look at the way he is wording himself. To me its a fkn joke. I dont mind critical voices, but this dude takes it to far.
Anyone who talks with certainties in crypto is not to be trusted.... positive or negative. Like I said I have heard enough to know what box to put him in
Most people like critical voices without that Wording more.
But also most people see Bad words and don't really read what the one is trying to Tell, nor do they question those statements.
Thats basically ignorance because i don't like the words 😄
I'm going to say that there is possibly some cultural aspect to it considering he appears to be from Bulgaria. Secondly, greed is rife especially in web3. I'm a self confessed idiot. I make mistakes all the time and I shouldn't be listened to. I'm just saying he shouldn't be shouted down, or banished because he challenges our understanding or belief.
hey, ill admit, my expressions are colorful. but... they are also true. things are checking out 1 by 1, give it time. im the prophet.
about the team being incompetent i am 10843198057123985471 % sure.
they can do games, but they dont understand web 3, grind, investors or airdrops.
im pretty sure ive put more time in games than all of the ilv team combined and im only 33 , guarantee that they havent spent as much time grinding web3 games too
dont forget, im the first dude to reach lvl 1000 in zero on t1 too, so i spent time here too.
was 400 lvls ahead of 2nd guy that i know of.
What about arena and overworld?
I agree that zero is lacking as we see in the current delays again
Hello, I bought 2 land yesterday but I wanted we still can't sell our resources on the marketplace?
No date confirmed for that..... Hopefully in time for the Open beta
thank you, but I saw that when the beta is over, season 1 will reset?
Private beta should end on may 28th then open beta starts... and yes everything will be reset
Open Beta(OB) is when we should be able to sell resources. That is supposed to be sometime in June or July. So you have a while to learn the game basics. It may change with the reset too.
No not june or july .. later on .. the testnet will remain for around 6 months
No. Open beta is slated for q2 and nothing has been said otherwise. Please don’t make false claims.
Salut désoler de parler fr mais j’aurai du mal a expliquer en englais j’ai pas fait les maj depuis presque 1 an comment je le mets à jours par ce que je n’ai pas été reset
J’ai beau chercher je trouve pas d’info j’ai fait la première maj mais c’est tout
Okay, thank you for your answers.
When the marketplace arrives, we will somehow be iluvium zero players, paid in eth?
because I also saw that those who hold land will earn 5% of the game's income, will it also be in eth?
I don´t think anyone really thinks the team is incompetent, nobody would be here for starters. And neither you; you just literally said today you TRUST the team. Why would anyone trust an incompetent team? You have doubts, like everyone, and that is natural if you are invested like most of us here, but the main issue is not that they don´t deliver, just that they make wrong guestimates on when something is finished, and that has happened I think in any project I have ever invested in. It is frustrating, and you vent that by being rather negative. Don´t get me wrong, I do appreciate constructive criticism, as should the team, but the constant pessimism does not help the overall mood in here in my humble opinion. And not to stereotype anyone, I really don´t care about that stuff at all but as HappyBallz mentioned, I do know some people from Bulgaria personally and they have surprisingly similar approaches towards stuff, so I do think it can be in part a cultural thing, and those things get lost in translation often. It might all seem more crude to us then you actually intended. If you really hated the game, you would have sold off your plot, at today´s prices it is not much of a loss if any, definitely not if you used sILV.
oh it definitely will change. Roads will function differently and a lot will be nerfed somehow, especially converters.
that is incorrect. although it says regarding the end TBA open beta is still slated for Q2 on their most recent roadmap (and that was pretty recent).
Izi what’s the current maj on ilv.zero pls ^^
i said i trust the team? would u show me where, i must have been on mushrooms earlier.
I think it is the only currency they use besides sILV. You won´t be paid in ILV tokens, that is for sure.
or me. I was half asleep tbh 🤪
such words will not exit my keyboard. theyre sabotaging us, cant be trusted.
and my english is good enough to be able to express myself, i stand behind any word. it was not lost in translation. i could be too rough , but i did not mispoke : D
@weary bluff thoughts? #💰〕token message
same as before. vesting is bad.
vesting requires time, ilv has no time, we cant skip bull.
whats the point of gettin ilv token when it costs 40$ already
or worse
theres got to be a compromise
I imagine that all the resources we will create will only go through us?
Are iluvium zero players going to create the offer?
or will the team also put resources on the marketplace?
It will only be overworld and arena players who will pay in ilv and who will then buy our resources
how about monthly claim and 3 months cliff
no , u were the one that recommended vesting
u can be the one that recommends removing it
ppl make mistakes
vesting for boosting the airdrop only, but for sure we cant skip bull , kieran said himself, airdrop will not affect price due to bull/hype ilv pump
we dont need to be pity.
i said the same thing earlier.
Vesting will stagger out the coin release... Its a smart idea. You dont have to extend longer than 6 months if you think we will be in bear mode then
can´t find it mate. Must have been someone else, or another room, not my intention to put words in your mouth. My apologies for that.
the beta game start ?
no
at what time, and how we can know if we are in ?
what ?
i still haven't got an email
ok thanks bro.
we receive email if we are in ?
yes
Nobody has the email yet
ok ouffff. becoz i have nothing
21.00 utc
read #📣〕announcements message
it's a 2 min read and you know everything you need.
Can even expand on a 10 min read and click the info link in there and you know everything publicly shared.
I´m not sure on what the team does but I think the resources are only usable in Zero, and you can send them to the marketplace and trade them for other resources you might lack, but they can´t be sold as they are not nft´s. Actually now that I think of it I see no reason for the team to just post resources, we´re on our own there. Mining resources does not cost anything so if you lack them you either wait or trade with someone
we are ILV. we can afford things that others cannot.
we just need someone with balls to call the shots
its ok, nobody believed you anyway 😗 😄
they know me too well
when I say resources, I'm talking about fuel, that is to say hyperion, solon, crypto which are, as explained, necessary resources for the illuvium ecosystem (arena, overworld)
so this fuel will not be sellable on the marketplace in exchange for eth?
I wonder who’s the top IZ player lol
used to be viper on high tier
i was holding t1's back in the days, but havent played since the last reset
cuz theres worlds of difference between t1 and anything else
now, idk.
Yeah I just play enough to get the BP’s. Yeah I have a few T1’s definitely a big difference
I was faster than him back then 😛
t2 is basically the minimum that actually works
t1 is made to not make it work, to be harder than it should be
so u have to make insane sacrifices at all points in time
late especially, i had no room to grow a plant.
had like 2 months without a plant.
Yeah imma just use T1’s for getting BP’s otherwise not worth it. You definitely need to leave some room but it’s hard to when you need the room to put up buildings
What you think about f2p gauntlet mode, if you one of those who wana build on Blueprints?
What is gauntlet mode?
i believe t1 was made so , so hard. its like it was made for f2p. not for 600$ paid land.
Arena mode they started designing.
Pretty similar to tft... 8 player BR, all illuvials available. If you own illuvials tho, they work like a skin in there
There are some things need to be tweaked or features to be added for t1... However, compared to higher tiers t1 fuelputout was way too much buffed
I’m cool with it because it gives value for the BP’a and to the land
How so?
Fuel will be sold by land owners in an order book system. For every 1 fuel sold, the DAO will create and sell 19 more at the same price. This is how we get 5% of all fuel sales. It's in ETH.
There is also an upper price rail on fuel price, so if demand is too high the DAO can produce unlimited fuel at the upper rail price so players can still play the game. Prices will likely be at this level at the launch until P2E IZ is released and land plots are built up enough to sell fuel in scale. 5% of that will still be distributed to land owners.
Land owners with 100+ lands probably will. T4 owners will likely get significantly more than single land owners.
It was merely a dumb look at how many 50,000 is and how many wallets there are active in the system.
Snapshot from April 14 was in fact the snapshot for the loyalty airdrop. Owning land today does not increase your share of the loyalty airdrop. It’s your wallet history prior to April 14.
Would you believe I bought a T2 on the 15th lol
but does that mean we will get 5% for each land we own or only 5% from the moment we have a land?
Or is it really 5% for each fuel sale?
All the fuel is sold. 95% of the eth is distributed through the revdis contract to eligibly staked ILV. 5% of the eth is collected for the land holders. All of the land holders. So one holder will get their small piece of that 5% that gets divided by like 20,000 lands.
It’s a bit complex but I believe there are (or will be) a few different governance proposals that would help explain it
Is zero connected to other games in beta 4??
Not yet
@vivid cipher who do we need to tag , so we can inform them to verify such things and send to the current owner and not to someone that sold ? cuz im pretty sure ilv will fail to do so.
or... if they see it fit, not send at all in such scenario, still works
cuz i know theyll like that idea more
I guess you can ping whoever you want, but the snapshots already taken like it’s done
distribution is not done
or u dont understand what im saying
I do understand I’m just saying you’re not going to affect any change. You don’t need to waste your time on this.
Yeah.
no, thats not happening.
Good luck beating a dead horse. It’s not moving.
ill make it move, no worries.
Ok
Haven't backread. What's happening?
loyalty airdrop snapshot on 14th determined who will get stuff from land holders, so those that sold after 14th should not receive said airdrop, it should either go to the new owner or to nobody at all and get distributed to remaining owners.
please take care of that, so we dont make a problem out of it.
mention it to whoever you must
I'll bring it up on our meeting in less than 12 hrs from now. Airdrop is one of the topics so this fits the agenda.
thank you very much, please push them to fix that, because ppl r taking advantage.
no freebies.
I apologize for my negative response. I should have known you only were referring to the land owners. And not the other legacy eligible holdings.
That might be possible. I hope it works.
whatever, land, beyond stuff
whoever isnt an owner shouldnt receive
I believe It was made this way because it's time based.
So people who AT some point in time swapped into a cold wallet, or their wallet got (maybe) compromised and they sent to a fresh wallet still get the airdrop share they should
yeye, im talkin specifically bout sold post snapshot, theyve dealt with the other stuff already
But that wouldn't Change then anything, no?
Illuvium Zero Land: Time held & Amount Spent. do anyone know what "Amount Spent" is referring too?
I guess how much money you paid
itll change, the people that sold post snapshot will not receive airdrop.
so if i bought a tier1 for 1 eth, and another for 0.5 eth i would get more points for the first one? is this correct understod? @radiant sky
Question, I havent read the details on the airdrop, but if I bought my plots from on wallet and then sent most of them to diferent wallets to be able to plah them will that impaxt the time held and me getting less rewards?
Yes they will, time Held Matters for most drops
it would matter, if ure still owner of said item
Most likely not. Kieran already got pinged for that in #💥〕leaks-discussion
I honestly don't think so.
Maybe i got you wrong 😅
if someone SOLD his item after snapshot, they shouldnt receive airdrop. all they gotta do is check who has sold after 14th april and deny his piece of the pie, then distribute it to the rest of us.
whatever their piece of the cake was, will go to us.
You could have Sold everything before snapshot and still receive some drop for the time held
@weary bluff the seller did hold for sometime so its fair they get somthing for time held
that shouldnt be the case.
A new buyer should put time in first
new buyer will also not receive as mentioned.
it makes no sense to give stuff to ppl that exited already
They can buy back in also
they probably needed to move some funds and didn't want to speaking from my poor ass haha
my wallet says I have five or so eth and then I say where haha
Things are contantly churning around, there's no perfect solution. An unnanounced snapshot at a set point in time is about as good as they can do.
Probably not the right place to ask... but I haven't received any codes for the BETA
How can I get one? I own two TIER 4 lands
They don't begin going out until a bit over 3 hours from now
Thank you! My fear has been subsided
for now
check this chat tomorrow to see blood and tears
I don't think it matters too much the tier you own, I think what matters is how much each wallet/account has played.
where is marketplace for land plz ?
I really don't know what you're talking about. I have a few T1s and also several higher tiers and I think T1 is just as good to play as the others. Quite the opposite. If you're really interested in playing, T1s are even better because they're harder to level up. You have to think more. T3 and T4 are so easy that it gets boring. After a certain time, there's just nothing more to do. My gold depots are somewhere around 6k and all my other depots are also full to the brim (I could have raised them much higher, but why...?). It's a bit more difficult with T1.
So depending on what you're interested in, T1s can be fun.
hi guys.. what is the best way to see which plots are around mine and if they are on sale?.. do i need to go manually into the map and click all plots around my plots in illuvidex?
how far have u gone with t1
in t1 u have to make a lot of sacrifices in order to progress. u cant have it all. u need to choose what u gonna have, u need gazillion storages just to be able to upgrade
u need 9x maxed storage from hydrogen just for 1 upgrade
My T1s are between 1200 and 1800
oke thats good, depending on your efficiency, u might have reached a point where it gets harder
but end game is insanely ugly
ull be destroying buildings
to make more storage to upgrade
i never said its impossible
its just not optimized properly, it feels like f2p plot thats being punished to be able to earn
Well you're right about that. The space is extremely limited
thats where the main issue comes from
i can make fuel, but where to store it? that building requires 6x6
i mean 3x3
and it stores exactly nothing unless u push upgrades early
which slows u down insanely
Yeah, that's right - unfortunaltely
yep, thats what i mean
ive played enough web3 games to know what f2p looks like, t1 is made like we r f2p
f2P cant earn ?
I agree with you that it's not ideal. Especially not if you want to do fuel and BP. It hardly works together...
cant. cant.
at some point ull have to remove most of your fuel/resource income in order to farm BP
especially if your resource/fuel spawns are on shitty spots
ure doomed
im somewhat lucky with that
plot worth or not ?
thats arguable
im not the right person to ask, im the black sheep here : d
ask someone more optimistic : D
i looking for sell it
The main problem is that the Singularity scanners practically all have to be lowered to 50% because you have no room for your buildings...
Do we have a count down?
now? probably
2 years ago? hell no
i had 4 on 100% in every corner
on lvl 1000+
Yes, on level 1000 this is still possible. But it gets harder and harder afterwards
what we gonna win with plot
facts, facts.
say my roi in my plot
On my higher tear plots, I no longer have a single singularity scanner that is above 80%. Most of them are even significantly lower...
Too many variables to know. But assume smol
Can’t.
😢 you can
I’ll give you what I made up. It’s wrong.
3 month
I think you're in the wrong place if you think like that. Land is certainly not the big income generator. In other words, calculating your ROI is a bit pointless. Land is for playing and having fun. It's nice that you're still earning something, but I doubt it will ever be much.
yea for sur but you no fun cost me 500 dollar
you no
i can fun after i roi
or i go play fortnite
big team big work big project okay okay lets see
Don't ask me what I paid... It'll probably make you sick.
But I play every day and it's reassuring to see how everything grows. That's a joy in itself, and I don't need a psychiatrist for it - and that costs me several thousand...
my eng its bad sorry
XD
its cool man
i com her for info team are very cool
you no i want to buy prometheus nft XD
so IM LOOKING FOR peanut
do u have room to grow a plant is the question
i hadnt seen a plant in like 2 months : D
i dont have understund why more player more we get ?
oh no
more player more we pay and
product reduce
dont try to figure out illuvium bro, they havent even figured it out : D
lol no man you dont have understund i htink
Should I count the free squares in the higher plots? I can't come up with much. And that's the problem. The game is getting boring now because it's really just maintenance and game development is no longer possible.
Maybe. Or maybe it will change.
Have you ever tried playing the game or are you just in to make money?
Because if you are, run...
bro
i have try to play
i cant link my metamaks actualy , few day later i have connect one time but wrong
thats like asking a woman about her age or her weight
web3 is to make money
No, I totally disagree. Web3 is to make money AND having fun
subway surfer crypto dont no name
hopefully there will be a fun game this cycle, i havent seen one yet : D
so illivium im folow few year
Maybe fuel is $0.004 each
and if having fun is what comes out at the end, well then I'm happy with that
for number player sir thx
thats just it, these genres arent really my thing, i play shooters
i cant rly have thaaat much fun
yes i say we need to upgrade
Come on. It's not that bad after all. OW is pretty boring, ok. But that's just the beginning. Think positive, man.
next game releases like Mario they said
XD
Me too... Shooters is actually all I play. I've said from the beginning, ILV should make a cool shooter game.
oh 😭 im going to lose my mind then, cuz they dont rly know what to do
but yes, if they give it a shot, ill try it
i can even invent a new genre for them
no problem
Leviathan Hunter
i like this guy : D
only epic crypto gamer now this game
To be honest, I'm going to try it that way too. I still like to grind a bit and collect cool stuff. But yes, the appeal of a good shooter is on another level
so say nothing in crypto game you no nothing
i say just how many i invest
and i try to say how many i can get / time
day
week
month
year
nothing more
No one here is fomoing in. We all have been here for a very long time...
Me personally for about 3 years...
in bombcryplo XD sorryy .. in bomcrypto i pay nft and i see my bomber move XD like actualy , i have my land and i cant usee it 😢
im soo bullish in illiuvium
i think this is solide game
gonna be solide reward
for long time
I agree. Probably the best web3 game there is at the moment
I'm not so sure about that. I hope so, but who knows....
im not 100 % ok with that so yes is it maybe the best game lets see
Ok, supper is ready. See you all later
XDDD
my problem is im just zero land player
because i have my phone every time and where
can work irl and in game XD
so give me eth plz when i buy prometheus
im ready to give them 28+ years of constant shooter grind as experience, if theyre willing to listen
i have 8000+ hours in fortnite only.. gazillion in cs.. valorant... any battle royale. : D
even the shitty firestorm battle royale of battlefield 5, i was 1st on wins in the world for a while : D
even Combat Arms?
The classic version, when servers were full was so fun
in your opinion it could be interesting as a connection between iz and ib to make a construction in which you can insert your beyond album and based on the points you have and the sets completed you have time boosts for fuel or a small % more fuel ?
wait that thing still exists i just checked steam
oh its reloaded
ah theres classic too
the shooting is too low level for this decade imo : D
until you play with speed gear in sniper only
I haven't played in a decade but I have such fond memories of it
yee thats normal, thats how i feel bout cs 1.6 : D
did u farm shrapnel and nyan heroes?
shrapnel did a $100k airdrop
Games become way too expensive if beyond collections start giving bonuses. My opinion is that beyond should stay beyond the other games.
bout shrapnel i didnt, couldnt. im there , i even hold scu. but they also made some mistakes along the way i believe, like ilv
nyan i havent tried yet, but might
idk these games recently do not impress me at all
and shrapnel was in no condition to be out there yet, afaik
yea its so bad, didnt stop the grinders
yeah i was fairly certain i can get top placing
was even preparing for a while to get some $
Shrapnel going to be doin an airdrop for Saga holders
whats saga
base thing
Saga is a L1 on cosmos and they are changing the game with in 1 min a game can start their own L1 on top of Saga which can easily bring over web2 big games to web3
like a subnet?
damn
damn indeed
@weary bluff you got access ?
no mail so far, ill give them until tomorrow and im burnin this place down
i got a mail from "no-reply@illuvium .io"but I guess it's not it
i got some scam mail too
Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.
Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.
Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.
scammers think more about holders than team
Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.
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nothing mentioned about code or access to beta v4
that mail is not from a scam
Mods and Team members will never DM you.
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yeah I saw that but the mail adress I got the email from is not a s cam, is it ? anyways didnt click on anything
notice that stakers have access without land
Not I
many i guess 😄
The access will grow in waves, there's only 150 in the first wave so obviously not everyone with land can be in that 150.
why even bother sending 150 ?
The next wave should go out shortly. And they will keep coming over the next few days.
its just 10k , we dont have money for servers or what
run another land sale so we can participate i guess
do I have a chance if i got a land and started playing like a week ago ? XD
What's yhe roll-out pace kike will there be more sent today?
If there are no major errors we should hit 10k in about 72 hours.
I don't know the exact approach they used, the more you played the more likely you were to get in, but there were many factors.
@amber atlas can I PM you? I have a code, but I also have a question.
Contact support not me.
were there also blacklists?
just asking for a friend... lol
i have been playing ilz since the launch and do not receive 😢
ty ty : D
you are not using it ? well im here in case
lol
we all know theres only 1 name on that list : D
I've tried community support but trying to keep it private.
seems to be 2 at least 😔
make it 3
naaah
i saw the list, its not even called blacklist
its battlelist
why would zero players get access though? think about it, there is not 1 reason for them to care about zero players haven beta codes right now
I got access and it would very likely be based on my zero playtime. Now I will enjoy continuing to play the Overworld & Arena and the whole IBG. Good times!
What's this ?
damn, sick liz brah
also congrats on your early access
nvm got access suck it nerds!!
i just got it so you might want to check your email every now and then
XAXAXAXA :D:D
told u yall aint on the battlelist
we'll fight for your spot
nono, id like to fight on my own
no need to drag yall down with me
things r bout to get ugly
any get a code for private beta?
yeah SP4A5CBP88 but I dont know how to use it
I don't think you should share it
get on email?
bro I didnt get any code lol
good joke
some guys copy paste on epic luncher fast lol
i dont think im getting it anyways
I will play it till 28 may
how to get access ccode?
If it were possible, I would share the code with everyone here, but unfortunately the code cannot be used more than once. I also believe that if you still haven't received the code, you will receive it today or tomorrow 
they bought themselves 72 hours
Well… broke record checking spam folder just in case 2024 😅
Hello guys. You send some access here for us.
That how it's looks like genuine with the code . Just showing so that no one confused it with the a scam.
Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.
Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.
Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.
you already used that code ?
Of course
anyone here in? Wasn't chosen this round
The code It's for play to IZ, Overword and Arena at the some time?
Dang... how I not get beta access 😦
Imagine holding 4 lands from the beginning and not getting beta invite…. 
We do go to see how many ppl signed up to play ?
so if we don't see it now. we didn't get the beta access
Yeah, I'm beyond disappointed Zero in not in the PB4
Yes, I'm invited, but the controller was sabotaged, so you can't play with it. Only the keyboard works ( everything worked in the beta, but unfortunately it didn't work in testnet ), and not fully because the B button doesn't work to report bugs. It looks bad from my perspective.
I don't mean fully that the controller itself doesn't work as it did before in beta, but that this is a testnet designed to fix what doesn't work, and here's the case that you can't even report a problem because the problem reporting option doesn't work
we'll fix the controller in a the next patch that we'll release
the B button in the reporter doesn't work at all for you? in which context did you try it out?
Do not understand the question . My statement is very simple, I press Esc then B button on the keyboard and the window does not open as it does in the beta. And when it comes to the controller, when will this patch be released because I was one of the first to get access and I was immediately hit in the face. I'm literally not playing right now. I was blocked due to the unusability of the controller (this did not occur in the beta). The sad thing is that I sacrificed as much as I could for the project and I was rewarded with this award being taken away.
close the escape menu and press B, the reporter should show up - we disable the reporter while in the escape menu because it would be on top of stuff which might be relevant for the bug
No one can answer the question why the controller worked in the beta and in the net test it no longer works, but only the movement analogue, i.e. the left one - the rest works as before. After all, this is a human error and should be corrected immediately, not in a few days or years
we have a bug, that's why the controller does not work - this will be fixed in the next patch
Sorry for my incorrect language but it is my second language
no worries
So how you found out about this bug ?
we found out now, as you and several other people from the community reported the issue
if we would have known before, we would've fixed it - but not a lot of people use the controller internally for development (I'm probably one of the few that does)
How many days will we have to wait for a new patch in this direction. Is it possible to estimate the approximate date? Unfortunately, people who play on controllers are simply left out at this point.
No we aren't, we are just having to learn how to work the keyboard which is definitely challenging.😂
If you have trouble using the keyboard, I advise you to spend more time sitting on the chair at the desk, just as you were taught when you were a little boy. If you already know how to play, but you write because you have nothing to do, go to sleep, maybe there will be someone who will sing you a lullaby that will make you fall asleep peacefully, by the way, I only play on the keyboard when there is no other option. I prefer to play on a controller.
hopefully we'll have a patch in the next couple of days
Friday, Saturday or Sunday will be good enough for me, but I don't know about other people, but I appreciate it and thank you for your quick response
.
is IZ included in this PB4 that gives airdrop?
can we get a list of top players in IZ? I mean this tease is getting old, first it started with OW alpha limited access and now this with none of the people who really played and put input.
For a game that is touting transparency, it is only the surface.
I was never a little boy but yeah, I definitely need some practice with how to play on a keyboard. I missed yet another Illuvial because I am absolute crap using it. Which is how I ended up on here looking to see if anyone else figured out how to play with one. I will keep playing for a bit and then maybe see if I can get my husband to sing me a lullaby before bed. 
Noone had to put money into getting into OW and ARENA to put in the hours to play, yet IZ players had to pay their way to play the game and help the economy yet we are the butt of the equation.
“none of the people who really played or put input” is a bit of an exaggeration. Who besides yourself were you expecting?
The least Illuvium could do is give us a list of top IZ players by wallet address
its ok to be triggered, but don't come at me with your nonsense
you took out some of the words to make my sentence complete, stop picking and choosing what you WANT to hear
How are you modding by taking peoples words out of context? Stop it please
It’ll be alright. We can seek some clarity through discussion.
You seem upset by two things. First the fact that there is no sort of leaderboard for IZ. Second that the people that really played (IZ or OW is not exactly clear to me) did not get access to play beta 4 in the first wave.
I would like to see that list and so would many others whether they are on the list or not, it gives some sort of confirmation rather than wait and twiddle our thumbs
I am upset at the fact that 500 IZ players was accepted yet we don't know and nobody on here is saying anything but 1 person.
yes but 1/500 is not something that seems to be reasonable to me in that predicament
i mean is it like 100 to Kieran?
It is just frustrating because we had gone through 1 wipe and about to do another and to not know what factors were used is really upsetting
It feels as if i had wasted my time
If it is accross the board then i have no qualms, but if it solely for IZ I would like to know
it would help me to ease my pain
if you know what i mean
Hey I'm I assure you that I was in the first 200 and I don't play because the option for players on the controller has been disabled, literally
I understand that, but I would like to know what the parameters are in qualifying, I have bias because im a land owner and have had to pay to play for free yet those who have played the other games have a better chance at qualifying from what i've read in the past.
i think I have attributed to your going crazy, but I am just expressing my feelings as I have waited to see what would happen. I am sorry to make you feel this way, it is not my intention.
This is all I ask, I have no issues after looking over my progress report to see where I was lacking. Just being in the dark about everything has me on edge for some reason.
Thank you @amber atlas
Andrej is my savior and thenk you Johnyy for being here when people need you .
I don’t understand why people have forgotten how to be respectful and humble.
This is my way of getting illuvium's attention. I was simply irritated by the answers I received.
attracting attention in this business, I think this is the biggest advantage
True! however even there are Bad words, i'm actually super excited to See many new faces 🙂
did we get enough ppl to start the riot
Riots are against the rules. Don’t incite them.
:D:D:D
they havent seen anything yet
thats jut 6 hours and 42 mins in
im curious tho, did they verify time spent in game since the first launch or just on the latest reset
I love to see happy new faces and the excitement back it just pains me to see people who find it a challenge to converse with others in a genuine and sincere way. The art of disagreeing and learning from it has died
there was no way to sustain that, too many bad things happening
so we might as well get used to it
u can assume how ppl will feel when theyve paid 2 years ago and cant play
True tho
Very true
whoever decided only 10k and not including all of land holders... did this.
You can argue the sky is green and I the sky is blue but I won’t ever call you a name or disrespect you personally. I will try to understand why you believe it but can still hold my beliefs aswell
Even tho i Find it low aswell, since we soon open up, I guess the number has it's reasoning.
A few more taking the time to post in #🗻〕land-owner channel as well. Not many. But some. #🎫〕verify-asset if you need to
no, these ppl will wait 1 month
i mean.. i totally agree. personal insults is not cool. i think worst ive said to someone here is "shut up pls" 😄
A blink in the bigger picture
nope, that also removes 20k ilv
If you wouldn’t say it to your mother then don’t type it is a good rule. 😂
even now we are losing $ when others have access
oh not for me : D
Bad rule... Very Bad... When i think of how people speak to their Patents 😅
ye.. i wouldnt live by that rule : D
True. My son needs his mouth washed out with soap… but he’s 6ft 3
axxaxaxaxaxa axxa xaxa xa : D
The amount of wooden spoons I should have bought long ago. lol
the thing with kids is that you should teach em early, once theyre 6'3 theres not much to do 😄
When they are 6ft 3 they are just walking hormones
Hahaha, yea... You missed your Chance splendor
kieran look ,he was gridnin so much ,he didnt have time to raise his kid and noaccess 😭
I did an ok job but teens are horrible
😂😂
Idk... I was an angel
trust me, sometimes its not their parents fault, some people are just like that. speakin from experience
sometimes the very fact that theyre overprotected is driving them to go do stupid shit
I love all my kids. They will grow out of the yuk stage
yep, give it 3-4 decades or so
for example i was in jail cell for the first time when i was 14.. and my mother is an angel : D
Poor mum.
I hope your very good to her now
You only get one
doesnt mean that i dont care tbh, it means that i got issues : D
btw do u think its possible to suggest to ilv instead making a new game.. to make a tv show, animated one
i think thats a market that would not only make money, but boost the project to space
if done right ofc
There is no need to post elsewhere as this is IZ related and specific to this channel.
I understand there is a need to filter so as new people will not be discouraged but it is what it is as they have canceled the IZ holders only chat and made it public.
i think its important for new ppl to know what theyre gettin into, so many ppl bought lands last days
they should know how we r treated
i got friends contacting me if they should buy land.. i said better wait, prices might drop these days
Also my lands are on another wallet more secure than my initial purchase so my land holder verified asset is not linked to my name.
Bro @weary bluff can you stop trying to create FUD, I am just trying to get answers and stating facts not trying to destroy a reputation.
where did i fud, a mass land dump is totally expected when ppl see they have no access, isnt it? i believe everyone knows that
mass land dump? lol that would have already happened
nope, theres 64 more hours until we know who can play and who cant
most are in it for the long haul
You are fudding by saying land price is going to tank, i mean what else can i take it as?
if it hasn't happened yet is it fact? is it logic?
newcomer will not have chance 100000%
which is why I am trying to get some numbers and statistics in and johnny said he would ask to provide
idk how many ilv stakers we have tbh, beyond buyers, etc. i would be able to predict more or less how many unhappy ppl there will be
which is why you are creating FUD without knowing actual numbers to throw behind your theory
I can say the earth will end tomorrow but will it?
we do know a number, 10k. theres 7500-8500 land holders
10k with the WHOLE OF ILLUVIUM
ye, exactly.
hahaha : D clearly u dont understand me, but its alright
You are only fighting for IZ not Illuvium as a whole is my problem with how you are thinking
oh no, thats not true
not on this topic atleast, i was just giving the holder amount as an example , so u can see that theres no room for everyone.
of course there isn't room for everyone because they had done the numbers already with what they have to offer in ILV, are you willing to put up your ILV to make it bigger? Will anyone else?
thats team issue, they should have known.
let me tell you taking VC money changes the game, it doesn't matter WHAT project it is.
I am not going to be mean, but there are things about business that you should learn to appreciate the art of business.
say that to team, im not the one ignoring investors. i want everyone to be included that supported the project with $
As someone who is not contributing to the development of the project that is really far fetched and out of the scope.
and development i mean creating
who isnt contributing? minimum price of land was like 600$
that should definitely earn u a spot.
600? there are lots of people who have spent way more than you who haven't complained
ye, im sayin that even the lowest is super high.
i've spent over 5k in Illuvium as a whole, does that make me special?
negative, it was my decision and my risk
no, thats web3 bs.
nothing is guaranteed in life, and if you think that way then I must say you live in a fairy land
i've lost more money in real life work that was supposed to be guaranteed by the GOVERNMENT of the UNITED STATES but never received it nor after fighting for it have I got it.
ye .. thats something else brother
lol ... thats bot bs its called life and its called taking responsability for your own actions
no one put a gun to your head and said do this
you decided it alone
well, this is why we have this situation, cuz of thinking like that.
yall r just contributing to ur own downfall
every person that supported the project, matters!
this isnt socialism its a game ... only thing that matters is the game being susessful
.. it is what we make it.
yes to an extent, its not like it is going to zero, and if that is the case then it wouldn't even be a question. But you are just trying to incite something out of nothing.
so lets say 25-30-40k ppl invested in ilv in whatever way, would it be that hard to include all of them?
He has zero accountability for his own decisions
ahhaha jesus.. how are yall thinking like that
When you are tring to reach a broader audience then yes
Just seeing what he types you can clearly see that he overinvested, took a hit and refuses to accept it, now is just a bitter guy talking in every chat
this entire month is only for contributors, what broader audience?
cause they have the audience, come on bro like think outside of "your" box
.. i have no words : D
lemme tell you, when i get my access ill still be here asking for others to have, if they have contributed to the project.
and the only thing you have done so far is?
im not trying to be mean to you man, but you are like these far right or left type people with your thinking.
oke, then i wont feel bad if u dont get access, i guess??? :D:D if thats what u want
#🗻〕land-owner is the land owner’s asset gated chat.
im cool with how you feel towards me bro.
i feel bad, cuz uve spent 5k and u dont even think u deserve access
lol you are a petty fella gotcha
this is why web3 cant go big.. cuz ppl think like that.
when was this created?
Long ago
years ago
When #🎫〕verify-asset was first added
ah maybe it switched cause i swapped wallets with my land
web3 can't go big cause of several major factors, but of course to you it is cause of Illuvium because of IZ that we can't get access...hmmm
yeah, surely web2 players will love the idea of spending 5000$ and not being able to play
Why would web2 pay $5000?
why not? i got homies spending 5000$ on skins only
if u see my fortnite account... 😄
they do it all the time
look at WOW
counterstrike
like whateslse do you need from web2?
brother, ure way too ignorant. i told u its contributing to making things worse. supporters should be able to play, its that simple.
its early access for little bits of ILV, but you keep beating your battle drum
when they see that ure ok with spending 5k and not having access, how do you think theyll approach things?
you act as if you are suppose to make the rules, like what is going on...
i should, everyone would be happy if i did.
no wonder he has cries in his name, all he do is whine
my 5k if it goes to zero then I will just take up residence at the Warwicks
no, you would have something else to cry about as they haven't made the game to your liking
im losing iq points around yall , honestly : D u keep spending and expect nothing. ill try to fight for ur rights : )
fighting for rights...riiiiiiiigggggghhhhhht.
yes, you should have the right to play the damn game if u paid for it, ok ?
playing is not even something ive added to the equation. im just talking about paying atm. add playing and then things get worse.
lets be honest, you just want to get those sweet ILV bonus and not to actually play the game
when you first were in here talking about the game you were so enthusiastic
but as these rewards for PB4 pop up and now you are so indifferent
do you honestly remember me?
why would i
i was the first one to tease your name talking about your name matches how you act when you first started your tirade
if u dont even know ive been trying to change things for investors , u havent been around that much
lol maybe do a history search bro
i did, i have 2x your pages
unfortunately i deleted my other account as I was going to leave web3, but Illuvium pulled me back
dont worry dude, half of his pages is just him yapping. Ive been here for 3 days and half the messages in this channel is just him saying how his ideas will save this project from oblivion, behold the self-proclaimed messiah.
dude thinks his some Illuvi-Jesus
thats true i did say that i am the messiah hahaha :D:D but not for the reasons u think. its because i predicted all this thats happening rn
and will continue to happen
Amen
i like that, illuvijesus 😄
I knew you would.
this guy hahahahas lmao
