🎮〕illuvium-zero

[lofty creek]

actually it has 1.9 eth not 2 maybe that's why it's not right?

[empty path]

Yup, he can't afford it anymore

[lofty creek]

to me personally on opense when I make an offer the eths are blocked so I don't understand how this could have happened

[empty path]

IMX works different

[lofty creek]

ok ok thx bro

[teal mural]

Is that a T3 land?

[cosmic badge]

If u check the offer on immutable market, it won't be shown if it is no doable

[formal basalt]

Is it possible to earn now in Illuvim Zero Alpha?

[radiant sky]

No
You just can mint the 15 Blueprints if you found them until feb 3rd

[formal basalt]

When is the beta and new land sale expected?

[lofty creek]

yes bro

[radiant sky]

Beta q2 according to roadmap

Landsale System changed, you can read up on it on IIP-39. But don't expect it anytime soon

[abstract gust]

Any news on what “end game” criteria is yet?

[radiant sky]

No

[shell stratus]

hey guys anyone own land here?

[pure fable]

dude, everyone owns land here

[proud tusk]

What will be the significance of owning land once the game launches?

[vivid cipher]

TLDR land will produce in-game currency for #🎮〕illuvium-overworld (and some other less important things)

[junior hollow]

they will mainly produce fuels that will be used in the Overworld game. Also you can acquire blueprints to produce skins

[coarse wave]

Typo on 2nd image. Should be "Tier 2"

pls fix thanks

[proud tusk]

what are the best augments to use on Ophisto

[vivid cipher]

Try asking in #🎮〕illuvium-arena

[teal mural]

Quantum fabricant max lvl is 6?

[mossy sorrel]

if you can't upgrade it anymore.. then yes, it's maxed.. hehe

[feral moss]

Hey Guys! I'm at Nexu VI but the goal "Upgrade to Nexus II" can't be claimed. How to deal with this?

[tall crypt]

Yes, but the begin must cover for launch order

[chrome quest]

hey guys, anyone know a tools to batch tranfer NFT (for blueprints) on IMX? i found imxtrade . io but not sure is 100% legit

[pearl marten]

Illuvialmaster .com is pretty good at doing that ... 100 assets per transfer was the max last time i used it

[spice crystal]

Ask in #🎮〕illuvium-arena

[abstract gust]

Really wish I started the hunt for blueprints much earlier. Running 11 mat labs at 150% still need to find 14 more!

[radiant sky]

Keep Building mat labs

[eternal egret]

I wanted to ask
what can I do to increase my chances of success on "research"

[radiant sky]

Increase the efficiency of your Material labs

[atomic falcon]

i havent had any luck getting blueprints any idea on improving

i saw the above nevermind

[shell rose]

I read that apple will create its new App Store (3rd parties allowed) and payment acceptance included there, due to EU regulations. It sounds like this could be a path for IZ on mobile. Has anyone commented on this from the illuvium team yet?

[lusty pike]

is the buy-in for Zero really 0.23 eth? 😮 😦

[vivid cipher]

At the moment yeah

[livid tinsel]

Hopeless land owners 😑

[potent pollen]

What date lands will be reset ?

[proper quail]

I just found and minted blueprint n°15. 😅

[pure fable]

good feeling right?

work is done

[proper quail]

yes! I've really been slacking during a few months, i was afraid i would not find em all before minting window closes 😄

[teal mural]

Do you own any land

[livid tinsel]

Yes, i do.

[teal mural]

Good then you goin to win with us land owners

[teal mural]

I hope everyone going hard trying to max out to get that reward

[abstract gust]

That’s the thing though we still don’t know what “end game” means. Could miss out by not having a particular building upgraded or you didn’t get all the blueprints minted.
Plus there’s no date for the cut off? Maybe it lines up with the minting window

[radiant sky]

Not really, heared about possible rewards months ago still no News. And i guess it's a similar reward as we already got.
Also since Beta changes Layout totally, no point in optimizing plots anymore.

You going Hard?

[teal mural]

Yeah because I only upgraded enough to get the BP’s this time around but If they going to give an reward for maxing things out I should be able to qualify at min 5 of my plots if just need 1-2 weeks so hopefully they do say any till at least Feb 10 @radiant sky

[teal mural]

Upgrading all the main buildings and then working on the other ones. Shit if it’s an extra builder then I will take it

[radiant sky]

Wouldn't count on that.
According to council notes, they talked about it once and further stepps are Stuff needs to be discussed in a townhall, which isn't announced yet

[radiant sky]

Extra builder for sure would be nice

I might even start playing again if rewards gona be that high 😆

[cloud juniper]

hello everyone...wondering if anyone else has had an issue with the game getting stuck "waiting for captcha"

[abstract gust]

No mines working fine maybe contact support

[cloud juniper]

thx, i submitted a ticket, but it was the typical reset your router stuff...waiting for next response from them

[rotund forum]

I think maybe the requisites will just be something like >level1000. That automatically includes having your buildings upgraded mayby not to max but that didn’t make sense anyway in this beta. And maybe have all 15 blueprints which isn’t that hard for such a looong timeframe we had.

[radiant sky]

Well nothing more than those 15 BP Made Sense in this Alpha. Level 1000 makes as much Sense as Nexus 10

[hearty pendant]

how many blueprints per biodata, 3?

[radiant sky]

Yes

[abstract gust]

Does minting blueprints take time in game or is it instant? I’ve found 4 so far but haven’t minted any yet.

[radiant sky]

It is Instant, but some people have bugs, so you better don't wait for the last minute to mint them

[placid finch]

is zero expected in march?

[fickle goblet]

Expected some time between april 1 and end of june, assuming no delays

[signal jewel]

What reward? Thanks!

[teal mural]

Reward for being a long time land holder and a reward for maximizing your land ( not sure what this all entails but I’m starting but upgrading all the main buildings first like the nexus, engineer, fabrication then so on.

[neat zenith]

😢

[cyan bone]

Hey mate give it 15 minutes and re-try

[neat zenith]

Thank you🙏

[cyan bone]

if still experiencing issues you can submit a support request (although I expect it to resolve)

[neat zenith]

Noted. will wait and try. Thank you

[proud tusk]

Is owning land worth it now? How does everyone who’s owned land for awhile feel about holding?

Thinking about getting a T1 or T2 to hold

[vivid cipher]

Land is for when the games start making revenue. The games have not started making revenue. So land has felt pretty useless utility wise. But #🎮〕illuvium-zero is a decently complex and compelling base building resource management game. Playing on a t1 is extra grindy at the beginning. T2 was more enjoyable.

[hearty cedar]

I had more than half om mine get that error, a day later i had all of them. Just give it some time.

[glad relic]

the video is upload in illuvium+

omai

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/791148476218081321/1131056693254565978/ezgif.com-add-text.gif

@whole spear
Subtitle?

[whole spear]

Subtitles?

you want them?

[glad relic]

yes

[whole spear]

No hables

[glad relic]

[orchid apex]

hello

are the 3 top ones OK? or are they still minting? How do I know? Can I see them in metamask to confirm its actuyally done?

[worn salmon]

Hello this is the ios compatible version?

Or wrong chat

[empty path]

No iOS support

[little moon]

You can see them on Illuvidex.

[silent sand]

Hi, is there a bug ingame? I cant build a Singularity Scanner. I have 1.1m ressources and 47/50 buildings available.

[vivid cipher]

It probably a rounding issue. Like you Need more resources.

[silent sand]

Tried that already. I build a 4th Storage device and upped it to lvl 4, so I had an extra 25k

[vivid cipher]

25k does not sound like much when it’s probably rounding from 1.05m to 1.1m

[feral moss]

Hi guys - what's the advantage of having a city again? When it comes to blueprints

[feral moss]

I mean, having mega or super city

[reef jasper]

allows for more space for scanners

[orchid apex]

yup. got it thanks

[amber atlas]

Hey folks with the minting window coming to a close, what would you like to see before Open Beta:

1) Client only version of the Beta
We can run the beta without talking to server, this would let you see how much faster and smoother it runs as well as see some of the new gameplay and QoL features.

2) Experimental features in Alpha
We don't want to do to much in the Alpha code base as it is dead code, but we could use it as a place to POC out a few wild new ideas for you to mess with.

3) Limited but server connected version of Beta
We could look to, this is the toughest for us to do, as its hard to go live without going live, but it is also the closest to the real experience.

**4) Current Alpha with some gameplay related competitions or rewards **
I have no buy in from council on this beyond the holder rewards we discussed earlier, but worst case I can throw up some prizes myself like I did for Beyond, nothing major but it might be a bit of fun. Prettiest city competition?

5) Open Alpha
Allow those without land to play the Alpha on a "free to play plot".

6) Something else?
Any other ideas...

Note that right now I'm just gathering some feedback, this is not a commitment to doing any of those things.

[nimble lichen]

I would cut ties with Alpha and go to 3) limited Beta. Gets us pointed in the right direction and the team working in a straight line to open beta

[cyan bone]

I'm going with 1️⃣ under the assumption it will require least amount of effort from team to manage (server and infra), whilst showing off latest client changes.

[amber atlas]

Added some emotes for a quick 'vote'

(then tried to vote and removed them again... blah)

[spring jetty]

which one of these contains Mega city features

[sturdy thorn]

hi all

[amber atlas]

1, 2, or 3 could all optionally include megacities

[spring jetty]

awesome

[amber atlas]

Just to be clear 😉

[spring jetty]

better than nothing

[amber atlas]

If you vote something else, don't forget to share some idea of what that something else might be 😛

[sturdy thorn]

hi all

[pure fable]

2. experimental would be cool, just see some ideas

[signal jewel]

Is in game communication or illuvidex communication a possibility? There is a plot of land I would like to buy but I don't know how to get a message to the owner.
Thanks!!

[amber atlas]

Chat is coming in Open Beta, although not planned to be inside Zero. Maybe that could help (add nickname to friends list, hope they use chat and accept, send your offer).

Some kind of offer/notification system has been discussed, but its not an IZ specific thing and not currently in the Open Beta scope.

Feel free to find or create a suggestion about it to rally some support!
( I say find as I think there is such a thread already)

[signal jewel]

Thanks for the suggestion. When I look at thier profile I only see the wallet address. Thanks for the response!

[amber atlas]

Wallet address shown if they don't have a nickname/account. So chat wouldn't help, but an Illuvidex based notification system would.

[signal jewel]

They have the plot I need to create a mega city.

[cold owl]

Cutoff for minting Blueprints is Feb 3rd, right? What is the exact cutoff time? 11:59pm UTC 2024-02-03 ?

[vivid cipher]

February 3rd 2024, 21:00 UTC

The article in the announcement shares that time.

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-zero-alpha-blueprint-minting-patch-0-2-2

[wicked horizon]

no benefit to completely upgrading all the buildings in Zero once youve minted all your BPs right?

[vivid cipher]

It won’t get you more blueprints. There’s talk about some other rewards for end game stuff for alpha players. But nothing definitive about any of that.

[wicked horizon]

Have we gotten word on when the next phase gets underway

[vivid cipher]

Not really. Just sometime q2

[high sleet]

Do we need to do a day 1 airdrop?

Mavia top 50 on app stores

[abstract gust]

Finally minted 12/15 blueprints, but where do we actually view them?

I’ve clicked on marketplace and selected blueprints but just shows me other people’s not mine?

[junior hollow]

click on your profile and check assets

[grand silo]

juicy juicy

[upbeat drift]

i wrote support about not able to mint the bp,no answer till now

it s been a few days

what can i do more?

i built marketplace lvl 2

zero building

but i don t have the mint option button

[copper inlet]

could you give me your ticket number?

[upbeat drift]

where do i find it?

[copper inlet]

in the initial email confirming you have created a ticket

[upbeat drift]

didn t get one

will fill another one now

[copper inlet]

please also check your spam folder, i believe i was answering to the ticket similar to one you have described

[upbeat drift]

just made another one

and now i got a mail from illuvium with the ticket number

[grand silo]

wondering if we know what the highest level reached in Zero is?

[vivid cipher]

I think it’s ~~2000 ~~ then it rolls over to 1

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

3000 to 100

[paper lance]

dead game?

[jaunty rain]

lno

[winter summit]

Anything I need to do for illuvium zero after minting all 15 blueprints?

[fossil galleon]

Not really - ignore anyone saying they’ll guide you through something. Just ask in here.

[fervent slate]

Will the 15 blue prints that can be minted now still be available after the opening?

[grand silo]

gm all. I love playing Zero!. I am beyond excited to really get into this game long term.

[candid fog]

whats the incentive of playing after minting blue prints

game will reset after official launch

[gray stream]

Are there plans to use the enslaved Illuvials from OW in ILZ to increase production/transport/defend and so on

[vivid cipher]

Yes. You would able to find them later after public launch if you don’t mint them now.

[vivid cipher]

Palworld much? There are ideas that could be used to make ILZ a bit more RTS. With illuvials from overworld loaded into them so the building produces some sort of offensive or defensive output.

[gray stream]

yeah, got me there, just started the download to bridge the time until Open beta 😄

also, just found it strange that we talk about usage of Illuvials in future games but never talked about using Illuvials in ILZ (at least I never heard that)

[vivid cipher]

Aaron definitely has

[junior hollow]

me too, love this game. i don't know who can say it's boring. once we get to produce real fuels its icing on the cake

[junior hollow]

illuvials and armored mechs battle side by side, make full use of the sci fi genre

[fervent slate]

Thank you very much!😆 ✨

[heady spoke]

does ILZ atleast be released on iOS on official open beta launch?

[radiant sky]

As a Webgl version yes, should. Native iOS most likely not

[cinder heron]

Hello guys ! It’s first message here 😊 and I have a question….

I have a position of ILV.
So I have 2 options :

• stacking
• buying a land instead… & later to convert the rewards in a ILV position ?

What’s your opinion ?

PS : based on your experience, how long does it take to recover your investment (tier 3 or tier 4) ?

[frozen finch]

No one really knows that yet. All speculation

[heavy hamlet]

The game hasn't been connected to blockchaim yet so no one had earned anything yet

[cinder heron]

Do you mean it will start with the beta ? Sorry to ask, î’m a newbie for now…

Thanks for the answers guys. Trying to figure out if it is better to hold and stack or jump into the game !

[cinder heron]

But you can sell your NFT to the marketplace ? Is that peanuts 🥜 ?!

[teal mural]

Now the researcher labs are playing games not finding no BP’s and running at 150% 🤦🏾‍♂️ I only need 3 more

[pearl sparrow]

any update to land? maybe soon?

[vivid cipher]

There was an update to IZ game build less than a month ago to fix some stuff for the blueprint minting. There will likely be another couple of updates prior public launch. But maybe it’ll just be one more right at launch.

[vivid cipher]

make sure they are researching the right biodata.

[pearl marten]

@amber atlas @cyan bone Could you please shed some light on the 'production value of megacities - they'll be able to produce a hell of a lot more fuel that if it were just a single plot' quoting Kieran's statement from the Illuvium Insider.

1. Will lower tiers inherit the production boost of the highest tier ? If MegaCities act like a singular plot makes sense
2. Also, about the 'fuel crates airdrop' - maybe share some more details? He said the team has looked into averages that people store but it's a bit confusing -> if i have a T1 with 5 fuel stored and a T3 with 1000 stored that means that each of the 2 plots receive a crate of 500 fuel?

[lusty crag]

Well I hope so that this goes for point 1 !!! Otherwise this would be a hack of a turn off!

[weary bluff]

pretty sure u dont get the boost, but i might be mistaken as it was discussed nearly 2 years ago

[lusty crag]

Bro if that's the case, then this would such a rug!

[weary bluff]

not really, as it would turn your tier 4 into 4 tiers 4 or more

[lusty crag]

well thats why its a megacitie, it was said it takes the boost of the higest tier of the citie

[pearl marten]

Hope so .. but we'll see as i'm not sure. They do command a premium price so there should be something else besides extra building room

[weary bluff]

u get plenty of other bonuses i believe , but lets wait for someone thats 100% certain

i dont wanna start a riot 😄

[teal mural]

They are and I have over 10 labs running, it’s been doin me like this for the last 3days, never been this unlucky with them. Imma setup a few more

[radiant sky]

Not really plenty.

• Tier boost does NOT spread
• landmark Bonus DOES spread
• more Space because just 1 Nexus etc.
• you can push implemented low plots a bit better because you don't need to pay fees for Transport (which infact Transport ress from one plot to another isn't even ready at OB launch last i heared)

And thats pretty much it... Everything else Like special Buildings for megacities or other Stuff is probably years down the road.

[lusty crag]

AND shared ressources?

No?

[lusty crag]

Wow if shared ressources aren't ready, what has been done all the time in Illuvium Zero dev time?

[lusty crag]

That's unreal, I kinda get more and more the feeling as land holder (participater in land sale) being slow rugged.

Like Illuvium Zero hasn't even got 10 minutes in Illuvium Insider - compared to the other topics. Basicaly = news, that we have no news.

[quasi canyon]

Just watched the AMA with Kieran and Andrew… and Does everyone HATE the idea of being able to get raided in IZ? Bruh this is an investment for me with real money, and I dont want to have to keep defending my land (and money). I work full time and i want to still grind the main game. I dont want to have to grind IZ just to hold onto whatever fuel my land generates

[trim loom]

Is the deadline to get blueprints today?

[lusty crag]

To some point it would be interesting to have two seperate modes. One were it's possible and one were it isn't.

[quasi canyon]

That would be more palatable. Then people who want to play more and risk their fuel to get more can, and those that dont want to dont have to

[lusty crag]

Exactly, but putting all lands at risk of being raided would be in my own opinion nonsense as well!

[vivid cipher]

February 3rd 2024, 21:00 UTC

[radiant sky]

I would assume so, since you play the megacity Like 1 Big plot.

[empty path]

<t:1706994000:F>

[weary bluff]

ull be able to buy shield not to get raided

pretty sure

or make a building

whatever

its good news for t1, go hit t4 and get rich

😂

[reef jasper]

there will be limitations im sure

[vivid cipher]

Blueprint Minting Deadline

The zero alpha blueprint minting deadline is <t:1706994000:R> (⬅️ click to see when)

[mortal smelt]

Make Zero Great Again

[mortal smelt]

Kek

I for one have a pretty good feeling in the direction we are going.

[pearl marten]

I totally agree with this .. I think it's a terrible idea.
Yeah maybe have an option, like other people said, whoever wants to be part of that 'raiding' mechanic okay i have no issue but to force every landholder into that would be just nuts.

[quasi canyon]

Also, god forbid higher tiers have greater strength…. Tier 1s and 2s would get REKD and hate it even more. On the flip side if you dont give bonuses to higher tier lands, higher tier owners would feel slighted, and it probably wouldnt make sense from a scaling and lore standpoint to have tier 1 and tier 4 be the same strength for pvp raids

The whole raiding concept seems like there are too many moving parts to get right. Good in theory but maybe not in practice. but if they can find a healthy balance that doesnt ruin the experience for people that dont want raids, im fine with it

[vagrant heron]

If you raid, you can get raided too basically. Typically you have a shield in those types of games that break when you go to attack. Probably the shield can be without duration or something like that

[paper lance]

imho, don't do land. can only reap value on it if it appreciates its value. no staking, no use. god knows when the game will be released, and by that time who knows how many gaming hours you must put in to roi.

[lusty crag]

I'm so sick of this silence about Illuvium Zero and in general all the delays.

It's like Illuvium truly wants just to try it with the golden bullet and if it doesn't hit the target (audience) well it's over.

Like what you wanna optimize when there is no more money and no game?

LOL

Instead you should simply release something and build on top of that!

This perfectionism is Illuvium's biggest threat.

[cold owl]

Wait, so there's nothing special about the alpha blueprints? Will they get some sort of "alpha badge" or something that might make them more valuable in the long run?

I have been grinding and messing up other stuff in my life to get as many blueprints as I can before the deadline haha

[vivid cipher]

Not that I’ve heard of.

[cold owl]

oof, thanks

[narrow oasis]

There's no unique reward for waiting years owning land. Kieran talked about airdropping fuel. What I'm hopping for at this point is that the kart racing game will be super popular and karts blueprints will be worth an actual lambo.

[gentle grove]

Damn I am going to be dead before they release this game

[junior hollow]

people want the game to be fun and competitive yet at the same time don't want to risk losing their productions.

[lusty crag]

If they keeping this pace we might.

Delays after delay for almost 2 years. Do not go in my mind.

[bitter phoenix]

How do people feel about land raiding? I am not a fan at all. If it’s implemented it needs to be an optional feature.

[pure fable]

percentage raidable would be good imo

[quasi canyon]

Okay so if someone walks into your house and steals your wallet and car keys are you calling the cops? Im just saying there needs to be an option to not participate in raids if you dont want to, because this was not part of the original vision 2 years ago when i bought land

[lusty crag]

I rather have MC fully developed then another feature who someone wants to add before open beta.
I mean cmon it's freaking time!

[junior hollow]

yeah i hear ya. maybe have a raid mode and standard non raid mode.

[quasi canyon]

I think i read your first message wrong, sorry i was a little patronizing

[bitter phoenix]

Yeh it’s a hard no for me

[gentle grove]

I feel they should just released the damn game and not keep trying to add shit

[pearl marten]

No one is .. at least so far i haven't seen someone say 'what a cool/great idea' that would be
If it'll ever be a thing it has to be optional

[bitter phoenix]

Kieran was just talking potential modes in the future. Not anything is going to change the roll out. All things will be discussed well before any change and council will have to approve it. That’s when people can object.

[junior hollow]

don't worry about it. since blockchain gaming is something new with real assets involved it's understandable people can have some trepidation about losing their investments.

[gentle grove]

Somehow everything they talk about in the future they keep trying to add before game release so I rather them talk about release than first and worry about future later

[bitter phoenix]

We are very close. All wonderful things take time. Especially game design. Most studios encounter delays

[gentle grove]

Well I am not upset about delays it's why they shouldn't have put hard dates or should I say quarters when they did thier time line because always are delays but people get upset when u missed dates for 2 years

[bitter phoenix]

Yes that I think was a painful lesson for the team.

I’ve been here nearly 3 years so I’m patient. 😂

[gentle grove]

I am too wouldn't have held land

[bitter phoenix]

I still would have the land. Just a little less

[junior hollow]

we also have to consider web 3 gaming is a new frontier. Illuvium wants to be one of the pioneers so many unknown hurdles and dangers have to be overcome, ones that traditional gaming studios don't have to deal with

[lusty crag]

You won't get it perfect.
What matters is relasing at some point and stop chasing perfection!!!

It been enough delays TEAM!

Stop adding things noone needs at release, focus on the important stuff to make it a fun game and get it out to the gamers!

[junior hollow]

yeah the important thing is to deliver, get the ecosystem live and functional...any improvements and adjustments can be done later for the games

[bitter phoenix]

I do believe that is actually what they are doing. Arena is where the most effort needs to be to get the players.

[lusty crag]

What I truly don't get why this hasn't been prio since runway is at a critical state.

[lusty crag]

Well I still hear nothing offical for Illuvium Zero nor about anything in relation to fuel integration - LOL

[junior hollow]

i think what they worry mostly about is securing people's assets...like i said web3 is a new frontier and entails a lot of risk

[lusty crag]

So I guess we will hear in a couple weeks, guyz we need another quater for release we didnt got it done.

Wouldn't surprise me anymore.

[bitter phoenix]

Best to release a game that is good but delayed than deliver a game that is buggy and bad on time. We are close

[lusty crag]

But if they would be at least honest with themselves and stop making dates up which they cannot hold anyways!

It's so disappointing.

[bitter phoenix]

They pretty much have

[amber atlas]

It was always opt in in my designs.

[amber atlas]

We had a council decision to stop publishing dates and just publish progress, it was all agreed by team community and council and voted in, within a few months everyone was like "where are the dates?!?"

[bitter phoenix]

I figured that would be the case. Too much at stake

[amber atlas]

In any case we aren't putting effort towards raids right now, and we will discuss designs an options in way more detail when OB is done.

I think it will be super cool to do, either in a simple form or a more advanced form, but lets finish OB first.

[heavy hamlet]

The other primary functions of land is fuel generation while blueprints is the other. With only 15 blueprints that can be minted but not usable, we're not gonna see demand pickup until the nxt major patch

[bitter phoenix]

The minting of nfts from zero needed to happen early to test it all out. It was a fun way to get players to play for a small reward

[heavy hamlet]

Blockchain features or ILZ are scheduled for Q2

[amber atlas]

There's not really anything left to do on blockchain side for beta* , the IZ blockchain integration is pretty simple. The main work here on Zero is:
Client: updated UI designs, QoL features (+ testing testing testing)
Backend: catching up to frontend, there are still several systems yet to be built on backend
Both: new Power System implementation

** we consider the Fuel Exchange a separate project, with its own team, that still has a bit of work also, but going well

---

Your statement on Q2 is still correct, just some more info 🙂

[pearl marten]

@amber atlas any chance sharing your thoughts on this one? 🙂

[amber atlas]

The rules are the same as published before not sure if pinned but:

1. **Tier Boost **applies only to the underling land plot (i.e. the part of your megacity that is T4 gets a T4 boost, the part that is T2 gets a T2 boost) ... this is one of the few places where a megacity is slightly different to a normal plot, otherwise they play the same. Applying the lowest boost would make Megacities suck and applying the highest boost would make them far too powerful.

2. All **Landmark **boost apply to whole megacity and are cumulative if for the same resource. This is a notable boost (Beta Landmark boosts are also a little higher than Alpha).

3. You gain a lot of **space **by only needing one of each supporting structure. Material Lab, Engineering Workshop, Quantum Fabricant, Marketplace, etc. Nexus you might want 2 or 3 depending on how many structures you have and Nexus upgrade level, but it still saves space.

You also need less storage space (you only need enough storage across all plots to be able to build the biggest things) and less data storage space (no duplicate data).

This space can be used by value producing structures.

(this will also become more and more of a boost over time as we add more and more features which have their own required structures)

4. Resource availability. When building up or changing your plot make-up to suit a new feature or your own goals, the Megacity often has a lot more flexibility because you simply have more resources available.

Contrast building up a T1 land with let say 2 element types and one Fuel type available on Sites ... it is pretty slow. But with a 2x2 megacity you might build up 3 T1s and a T2, and you can leverage and share the resources across all. Even if the overall output is the same (its not but for the sake of example)... you also only need to build one Nexus to get started across all those plots. The time savings are very large, so you get to value producing Fuel/Blueprints faster.

5. Its faster to get to higher level Blueprints, because you don't get duplicates (of Biodata, Facts or Blueprints) .

Becasue of this you will max out your facts far quicker which makes your research success rate hit max far quicker too.

For Blueprints specifically this is only a small boost, but combined with faster build times and higher success rates (due to Facts) this should mean megacity owners are pretty far ahead on the Research curve.

I'm not sure I would categorise the output increase or ease of building as insane, but its pretty darn good.

[pearl marten]

Cool.. thanks for the detailed explanation. So lower tier plots get the Landmark (element if you have a T3; fuel if you have a T4 in the megacity)boost. A T1 will still produce fuel at the rate a T1 produces, but if you have a T4 in the mix then that T1 specific fuel site will get **only **the landmark fuel boost

[amber atlas]

Yes.

The space saving is more of abost than this though. Once you add in all the structures and all the storage it really adds up.

And for research specifically this adds up to something that I might label 'insane' at least in the early days where being first is on the table (i.e. first person to get a T5 BP, first person to get a Stage 3 BP, First person to get a Stage 3 Tier 5 BP, first person to get any specific higher level piece, etc)

I can't predict the market but I can imagine the first of Blueprint NFTs will have some good value.

(Not to mention we want to have some 'highscore' table for the first person to find stuff... so its also just cool)

[pearl marten]

Yeah .. that is if you want to sell it i suppose .. or it really depends how many Ophistos let's say are on the market for creating skins using the BP 🙂

[spring jetty]

These are great news for mega cities, thank you @amber atlas

[amber atlas]

Yep going to be a lot of cool interactions between the market, the bonding curves, the games, and so on.

I expect some people will clue on to something about these interactions early and do pretty well 🙂

[pearl marten]

And do you want, or maybe to put it better, can you share any details about my other question? (related to the fuel crates airdrops) 🙂

[amber atlas]

I can't see your question (lazy, scrolling is hard), but I don't know what we are and aren't sharing on that topic, so I won't answer anyway 😉 I don't expect public announcements are far away.

[pearl marten]

This one - question nr 2

[pearl marten]

Oh okay .. i see .. i thought that now that's already shared maybe a few more details can be made public 🙂

[amber atlas]

Probably, I'm just not sure what is and isn't being shared so would rather keep quiet 🙂

[thorny pasture]

We should have 1 more week to mint the blueprints…. 🙏

[junior hollow]

nah stop minting, go buy some on the market. they're like $2 apiece

[west panther]

Anyone else not able to login to the main page in order to download the game?

I connected my metamask wallet

It shows me my land in the profile, but I just cannot download the client

[amber atlas]

w

[teal mural]

One more BP to go 😅

[teal mural]

When you say simple raids would that look like “ build 6 holograms and when the land randomly connects to other depending on which illuviuals you have in the holograms and how they are place would determine who wins”.

[teal mural]

Worst come to worst do that but you won’t have the bio data which is need for the real advantage to find the stage 2’s

[junior hollow]

yeah you're right i forgot about that

[abstract gust]

I finally got my last BP yesterday! And to think 15 days ago I hadn’t even touched my land yet. Loved the grind to get them all.
Went hard though had 17 mat labs running at 150% efficiency. Thanks to all the people in this discord for the help ✌🏽

Keep going you’ll get it done!

[junior hollow]

great job. glad you enjoyed the grind.

[teal mural]

Yeah I was playing around, should have been made more labs but didn’t expect the last two days not to give me any blueprints but we will see in the morning if I get lucky. One more and I will have 120 BP’s🕺🏿

[grand silo]

thanks for all the updates here on Mega cities Johnny. I am so pumped for when we go live.

anyone able to explain what Johnny is saying someone may want to have 2 or 3 Nexus. I am a little stuck as to why one would want more since upgrades can only happen one at a time.

[floral locust]

The nexus on a normal plot determines how many structures you can put up, for a mega city with all the extra space one nexus might not be enough to craft the amount of buildings you want

[grand silo]

got it thanks, now it makes sense

[tulip perch]

nuclear war if somebody comes for my fuel

[lilac sphinx]

How to mint the blueprints? I've been away for a bit but already collected them prior to that

[junior hollow]

you need marketplace lvl 2 and zero point transducer. then go to blueprints and mint

[grand silo]

understand we have loot boxes for land holders that held. Kieran mentioned there were a couple of ideas for rewards the team were looking at. Wondering if there will be a reward for time played as well?

[fickle goblet]

Anyone know what % of land sale buyers sold their land? I think the number is important the conversation of the what and why of these loot boxes

[grand silo]

same here!

[copper crescent]

Does anyone know how the blueprints of a certain set will remain useful after that set of Illuvials is finished? The purpose of blueprints is to produce skins by skinning several of the corresponding Illuvials. However, if such Illuvials are no longer to be found, how would the blueprints retain their value? Will variations of the same Illuvial in future sets work with the previous sets' blueprints? Or will they become unusable as older Illuvials become much stronger compared to new sets, leading people to be unwilling to skin several of their strongest Illuvials for a skin that doesn't offer any in-game advantage? If this were the case, it wouldn't make sense to produce skins in the long term. @bitter glade (srry for the ping Aaron, I just think it's something you would be the one to think this thorugh)

[junior hollow]

all we need is a building call armory

[hearty pendant]

what time does blueprinting end?

saw when it was now

will my base reset at what given timepoint? Open beta or when?

wanna know if its worth grinding after tonight or if I should chill until it resets 🙂

[lyric lodge]

I have played on 4 plots but when I look at my blue prints I only have 48. I understand it should be 4 x 15 which is 60. Can anyone advise ? @dusty cobalt

Thanks !

[true cypress]

And are we able to level up more than one building at time? For example, with a 2x2 Megacity, can I build up at the same time my Nexus + storage + converter + pump ? or only one by one?

[blazing ferry]

I know we're a needy bunch, but that alone doesn't justify trying to fit another release of anything in ahead of launch unless the team is also looking for more feedback ahead of launch. I don't think they are at this point.

Just a live stream AMA where the community can see the latest build, ask questions about it, and see their answers in-game would be awesome. Megacities included. I think this is the simplest option.

[copper inlet]

can you go back to your lands and click on minting button on all of the blueprints? And double check if you found all 15 on each of your land?

[teal mural]

They will be rare and you can buy the illuviuals off the market to make skins

[tardy fern]

Thoughts on Mavia?

Saw Kieran is recruiting for his alliance haha

[radiant sky]

Looks Like a very very early access.
Most features Like 80% ish are "coming soon"

• No social stuff ingame at all besides joining a guild with a very basic Chat. Global Chat not working.(AT least not for me)
• Haven't found any advantage yet to be in a guild.
• Battle search system is really Bad.
• too many bots/npcs or whatever they are. (AT least they could have filled them with ress xD)
  Other than that... Pretty close clone to coc i guess. Even tho ibhavent played that for ages, maybe coc changed.

But yea... Wrong Chanel for that i guess.
#🏃〕off-topic

[junior hollow]

I like the look and feel of ILZ better than Mavia, maybe i'm just used to it

[radiant sky]

Yea i agree. Like IZ Style more aswell

[junior hollow]

the only question with ILZ is do we just want to be a revenue generating game with fuels and blueprints, or have competitive elements like raiding and defense

[lusty crag]

I mean it def. would get more exciting with pvp mode in IZ - but for now I would not add it since we are so far behind schedule that the current features should be finished first!

Like MC for example!

[junior hollow]

yeah land owners would be happy with just fuels and blueprints production for now

[tardy falcon]

Been a minute since I checked in... any updates?

[junior hollow]

not much...bp minting stage is ending

[tardy falcon]

ahh okay... no decision on early zero access yet? or playtest new features?

[timber sapphire]

no further updates

[tardy falcon]

okee

[timber sapphire]

afaik

[tough field]

Hi. If someone could not mint the blueprints in this window, does he can mint them later? Will those blueprints be available to find after the beta?

[junior hollow]

yeah i heard they are available later too

[tough field]

I believe that too. But I assume they will be more difficult to fabricate right? The success rate will be smaller. The same for the biodata they rely on

[junior hollow]

yes i think so.

[pearl steeple]

I swear window would close at 23:59
Just arrive from a long trip, without internet. Just logged now and see : window closed. I didn't minted even one of all 15 that I've found. I put on my mind the usually hour Illuvium always announce, 23:59
That's super frustrating

[teal mural]

They did it off of uct time which was 21:00 for them and 4pm for us

[pearl steeple]

I'm completely desapointed with my self swear I saw 23:59 UTC. What would be 9pm here 😔

I waited to mint all at once lol

No more words. Sad to me

[fervent slate]

I watched Illuvium Insider's YouTube.
If someone took my fuel I would be furious. 😡
But I thought it was an interesting idea.

[heavy hamlet]

The latest interview with Kieran, he talked about PvP raid features being something he'd like to add. Would need an IIP. Would make the game much less chill, IMO

Don't get me wrong, an RTS or Clash of Clans type game would be cool for the ILV ecosystem

[tardy fern]

They’ve on boarded a lot of web2 with their own unique wallet and those players don’t realise they are playing a web3 game

[junior hollow]

a competitive aspect would be nice but seems it should be optional in the future. not everyone would be thrilled with their productions stolen. as for me, i'd love a good clash with things on the line.

[radiant sky]

Raiding and defense might be nice for the f2p Players.
I feel only a minority would play pvp an risk the regular Cash inflow. After a few weeks half of that minority would opt out, because they lost fuel instead of gained it. So it's questionsble to spend time and ressources to develop such a Feature.
I'm Holping IZ follows more Like a sim city Route than a coc Route... Make it complex to balance to be a top player/earner. Implement more decision Making, Like specialize for certain Tech (Like für fuel/dye's/ bp's/additional Stuff.
I actually also don't Like the Route too much having to build "mixed" plots, liked it more when it was out decision to go full fuel or full bp or do a mixed plot.... But we shall see, maybe it isn't too Bad.

Raiding and defense might be nice for the f2p Players.
I feel only a minority would play pvp an risk the regular Cash inflow. After a few weeks half of that minority would opt out, because they lost fuel instead of gained it. So it's questionsble to spend time and ressources to develop such a Feature.
I'm Holding IZ follows more Like a sim city Route than a coc Route... Make it complex to balance to be a top player/earner. Implement more decision Making, Like specialize for certain Tech (Like für fuel/dye's/ bp's/additional Stuff.
I actually also don't Like the Route too much having to build "mixed" plots, liked it more when it was out decision to go full fuel or full bp or do a mixed plot.... But we shall see, maybe it isn't too Bad.

[radiant sky]

Yea, i'm playing it, haven't Seen any web3 Stuff yet, thats the Goal with illuvium aswell as far as i know.
Not sure about the numbers tho, doesn't feel Like there are really that much people playing. Sesrching for enemies would be different.

[junior hollow]

yeah i like really this idea. raiding and defense on the f2plots would make it a competitive version with nothing at stake.

[radiant sky]

Yea i think so

[amber atlas]

Raiding doesn't have to have a negative effect on resources. For example it could just be about stealing tech.

(copying not taking)

I don't think we want a system that 99% of land holders wouldn't play.

It could also be a risk/reward balance where you effectively choose what you risk to raids (for example maybe there is 'non-secured storage' which can store huge amounts of resources for little space ... but resources there can be stolen if you are raided)

---

We could have a new resource that is only used in raiding. For example some new resource required to make the chips or engines that power your combat drones.
It could be mined only from a shared area (or purchased). A tutorial might give you a little to get started.
This resource could be harvested by mining but also by destroying enemy drones either in the players land plot or in the mining area while your other resources could be secure.

There are plenty of ways to make an opt-in system that is fun and worthwhile for land holders.

[fervent slate]

Land raids are difficult to deal with if you have more than one piece of land.

[tardy fern]

Your Google and apple login process was web3 integration 😂 There will be an ingame market place to buy and sell competitive items and skins. Web2 people won’t realise they are buying and selling items for eth because it happens in the backend with skryce studios covering all transaction fees

They are also integrating lands in 4-6 weeks. Web2 people also won’t notice that. Clean af web3 integration

[tardy fern]

There are to many people raiding that it exceeds the number of bases available to raid. 2 days ago the team said 99% of bases had active shields and the number of active players exceeded the number of bases available to raid

That’s why you will notice that most the bases you come across don’t give trophies, they are ghost bases to enable people to still raid for resources while they wait for real bases to become available to raid

[desert lynx]

When reset?

[vivid cipher]

Unknown.

[desert lynx]

🥹

[void vine]

Oh damn, I saw minting window until February 3rd. Here is still February 3rd and I can't mint 😢

[void vine]

Same here, I played a whole lot of it to unlock every single blueprint and now I can't mint them

[vivid cipher]

Seems you forgot to read the article from the #📣〕announcements

Blueprint Minting Deadline

The zero alpha blueprint minting closed <t:1706994000:R> (⬅️ click to see when exactly that happened)

[frigid stag]

what is your level ?

on ILZ

[teal mural]

Never wait till the last minute, you only had to click a button to mint and you could have been doin to the whole time you was playing. I was goin to wait till I had them all to but I kn most likely I would F-up so I did it as I went. But sorry to here y’all was able to mint.

If we are keeping our bio data then you can just mint when the game go live

[rose maple]

I'm getting an error whilst trying to download the Zero update, "Not available for your OS". I'm on Android 14, I just haven't connected my wallet to my login, will this have an impact on my ability to download the game update?

[turbid veldt]

After the next reset will we able to farm fuel?

That can be actually sold?

[solemn bloom]

Yes

[turbid veldt]

Hehe the good old Mrki arrived 😊 Always a pleasure to see y

Ty bruda

[feral moss]

all of my blueprints are showing "Minting Window Closed"
but these was showing "minted" before

[tall crypt]

84685 minted blueprints => 5685 lands whole worked => 28%

[upper brook]

Kieran did specifically talk about Fuel though, and took the example of a scenario when you wake up and you lost 200 dollars worth of fuel. That's what is concerning to us. Your ideas are fine, but that's not what he talked about at all.

[tall crypt]

The passionate person of Illuvium Zero spent an all-night vigil on January 3-4 to lie the Blueprints. If you didn't do it then, it doesn't matter to you either. I know of a person who worked for me 4 lands in a city of lands and 4 days ago they were stolen. That's life, winning and losing. Don't worry you can buy them in the market. Already bought more than 200.

[tall crypt]

You only lost 45$. Buy at market. I thought that selfish and neglectful behavior only happened in the Iberian Peninsula, but now I realize that it belongs to the human being. The egoism chromosome causes us to make mistakes in assessing the priority of our life's tasks, we leave them for the last moment and when the catastrophe happens we first look to reverse to see if something can be done, then we try to blame the others You have to resign yourself, you can buy 30 at market price and when they go up to $10 you sell half.

[radiant sky]

It's kieran, don't take it too serious.
And i guess he mentioned it as an idea not Like "yep it's Set we do it that Way".
Where did you hear it?

[upper brook]

Yeah it's just the CEO and co-founder, let's not take it too serious, right...
He talked about it with Andrew on the latest interview. He said he's been wanting to do this clash of clans style for 2 years.

[radiant sky]

If you want to get facts, watch Aaron... If you want to get hyped and Sold on the ip watch kieran.
I'm going to listen to it later on, often Stuff gets misinterpreted... i guess it's on the official YouTube chanel?

[grand silo]

whatever your opinions just remember you are probably here because of Kieran. Everyone plays their part

[clever comet]

What? I will lose 200$?

[cinder grove]

Some sort of separate game for raiding could work. Personally more interested in city building and would like that more developed. Of course with the raiding, attack and defense option on the same land but as a complete another game option you do attract other players to buy land.

[radiant sky]

absolutely.
wasn't meant to sound negatively. Both are doing that job very well.

[pure fable]

I think we should just try these things out, if there are not too hard to implement.
Some kind of fighting in zero would be awesome.
One question regarding the land holder/player bonus, what exactly does 'late game' mean? Is having minted all 15 blueprints considered late game? I played a lot of T1s so my playtime is really high, but most of my plots are in the level 400 to 500 range. I hope that is eligilble

[lyric lodge]

Hi @amber atlas I have played on 4 plots but when I look at my blue prints I only have 48. I understand it should be 4 x 15 which is 60. Can anyone advise ?

Thanks !

[grand silo]

just double checked mine, I have 4 plots & 60 BP sorry to say you are missing some

[woven badger]

wish list item for near future, hoping to see our illuvials as builders on our plots, walking around and doing stuff, makes the land more lively...brings back the days when we played age of empires. Im here since 2021. the team has done such great things.

[lyric lodge]

Is it 15 BP per land ?

[lyric lodge]

They should extend if they have any respect what so ever did the community that makes this project a reality

[tribal sequoia]

They gave us like 6 months to build our plots up and get the blueprints and another month to click a button... at what point are the players just being lazy?

[lyric lodge]

At what point does that team not understand that without the dedicated community and investors illuvium does not exist ?

[lyric lodge]

Does that make sense? Not asking for unlimited window.

[tribal sequoia]

They gave us ~7 months and this is just the beginning man. They have to close the window and continue with development.

[lyric lodge]

Only asking for a grace period.....is that too much to ask for those who make illuvium a reality ? Honest question.

Most projects do this ....why not this one ?

[radiant sky]

Yes

[steel verge]

I only got 13 of 45 blueprints.. on my three plots.. I go cry now

Cry to my momma

[lyric lodge]

Ok all 4 of my plots got minted all BP but I don't have 4 x 15 which is 60, why is that ? No one from the team has bothered to answer.

[lyric lodge]

Why did you not mint them all ?

[lyric lodge]

So giving one week of a grace period to community who make this project a reality will crater the whole thing ....do you really believe that ? Like for real ?

Be honest

@high sleet how do we take this matter to the council ?

[lyric lodge]

?

@high sleet I would like to take this matter to the council please advise

[teal mural]

They said we are keeping the bio data so you can just mint them after you rebuild the building when the game go live

[quasi canyon]

You keep repeating the same thing over and over. You missed the window man. They made plenty of announcements and updates. Your argument isnt valid. Im not trying to be mean but jeez just accept the situation and move on

[cinder grove]

Why didn’t you just minted your BP’s when the window was open? I minted all, had a small problem, contacted the team, they helped and done. I just don’t understand when players are supportive and active, how they can be late when you have a month window?

[vivid cipher]

Have you contacted #❓❓〕support ?

[frigid stag]

there will be a reset on Illuvium Zero ?

[vivid cipher]

Yes there will be. Sometime around the public launch of the games.

[frigid stag]

donc useless to improve our land ? no ? 😮

[vivid cipher]

Just the experience at this point.

[frigid stag]

oh... thanks you

expensive for juste the experience no ? 😂 wait and see

[vivid cipher]

Do you understand what the utility of land is?

[dusty agate]

Is it already working?

Can we sell BP or fuel already?

[lyric lodge]

Why dont you accept the reality that the team can simply state we have provided the community with a week of grace to ensure the very element that allows this game to exist is satisfied and move on ? Do you see how it works ?

[quasi canyon]

The world does not bend for you brother. I hope you find peace and acceptance.

[teal mural]

Yes it will be a reset but we still get to keep the bio data which give us a head start

[lyric lodge]

@quasi canyon you can't seem to grasp this simple fact without this supportive community there is no illuvium. It does not exist.

The council will decide.

[quasi canyon]

I support fairness. I support the community as i am a landholder and a moderate size investor. I support appropriate proposals to better the ILV project. I do not support whining to get one’s way.

[lyric lodge]

Great then the council will decide. I will contact the council with the proposal.

[quasi canyon]

Any proposal you put forth related to this grace period/extension will not be justified. This is the last message i will send regarding this matter. I hope you find peace brother.

[lyric lodge]

All my lands show as minted yet I am short BP. That's nonsense. How am can users mitigate that

[lyric lodge]

Well the community will decide what is justified. That's the purpose of a DOA.

[vivid cipher]

No fuel yet. Since there’s no fuel yet. Since there’s no games that use fuel as payment yet.

Blueprints from alpha season one have been minted. They are on the IlluviDex

[vapid quartz]

unable to transfer blueprints through website

[vivid cipher]

Try turning off other crypto wallet extensions.

[steel verge]

I did mint them! But only got 13/45 possible 😢

[heavy hamlet]

I don’t know how’s it’s possible, but ILZ feels more fast paced and interesting than Boom Beach, at least in the early stages 😆

[lyric lodge]

How do I reach out to the council regarding the cut off date extension for the minting ?

Thanks

[amber atlas]

Kieran is the visionary, he dreams big. Dreaming big is required to allow us the confidence to do something of the scale that we are doing, but it also has to be tempered by reality: what goes in to IZ is my decision unless specifically overridden by an IIP/ICCP.

[amber atlas]

If you had an error which stopped you minting then you can raise a support ticket.

[high sleet]

You're going to have to explain the matter to me fresh

But really unless you wanted an iip to re open the minting window. Individual requests go through the teams support channels

[lyric lodge]

Cool I will check with them and see if it's a technical issue as I checked every land and every BP and they all said minted

[vapid quartz]

ok, ill try that, thanks

[open gulch]

So now that the minting window is closed, is now when there’s gonna be a new wipe and fuel we can actually sell?

[vivid cipher]

Not yet.

[lethal valley]

hi why did grant leave?

[blazing ferry]

#💬〕general message

He wrote a nice farewell message

[lethal valley]

ok i read it. i dont understand it properly though. i think 😄
so he left because it was too much work to do? is that it?

[blazing ferry]

At the beginning he says "without going into details, I'm dealing with a personal tragedy at the moment that has crushed me and those I love most" and I assume that's the main deal, along with building up a team to take over for him for some time and having slowly backed away and let them take over anyway. Hate to try to summarize for him though.

[lethal valley]

ok so... its about alcohol and needing a break from work as well then

[rotund forum]

“Personal tragedy”… sounds to me that alcohol and taking a break are more coping mechanisms than a cause, but he did not specify any further, probably because, quite frankly, it is none of our business.

[blazing ferry]

I don't think we know, the specific alcohol incident he talked about was years ago

[lethal valley]

allright i see...

[junior hollow]

from what I understood, his role was coming to an end.

[dreamy cipher]

only 84,096 blueprints minted. i guess many holders are inactive or too busy to play.

[open gulch]

good thing for them who minted blueprints

[lethal valley]

yep. interesting

[tardy falcon]

that's still 5600 plots... more than I thought tbh

[swift crown]

Great news for the new gamers that join. They have a better chance of minting some when purchasing from the market. Also means that people planned to be holding for the long run

I’m just waiting for that Godly Wipe to start so I can start making profit on my investments 😈

[open gulch]

do we have any idea when the wipe's gonna be? tried looking and couldnt find anything

[radiant sky]

No Info on that so far

[ebon cypress]

hi folks, until when can we mint. I just bought a land. trying to see if its worth for me to play right now before the wipe

[junior hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-its-over-johnny-rambo-richard-crenna-army-gif-14402488

[little moon]

you are too late.... sorry

the minting window ended yesterday

[lethal valley]

u gotta wait until the next phase opens and then u can build and mint

[ebon cypress]

no worries, thanks!

[abstract gust]

@high sleet in your opinion what buildings should we be upgrading and to what level to be considered “end game”?

[high sleet]

To be clear I have zero concrete knowledge on the subject and anything I say is purely a guess.

My best estimate would be nexus IX at a minimum. Quantum fab to VI and eng workshop to IX.

Besides that they could do something based on average fuel production over the course of a day or week even, so high level harvesters could be relevant

[abstract gust]

Thanks, yeah just wanted a general idea of what I should be working towards now that blueprints are out of the way. ✌🏽

[high sleet]

I've always felt Nexus IX was endgame. It is the max nexus level after all

[copper charm]

hey guys, just listed at floor

[wispy prism]

Awww crap. Id so buy that if I could.

[silent sand]

The game is too complex. I returned a few weeks ago and I am playing now. After a few weeks I am at 51/100 structures. I have the first building which scans for illuvials, but never finds anything (tried 4 times). I am now in the process to build the last 3 science buildings and I am done, I have then all buildings. Next would be spaming Power Stations and trying to get everything to 150% efficiency. If I have buildings limit left and space I would build as much scanners as possible. Thats what I understand so far, but it is still complicated.

[pearl sparrow]

hello just a question, i got the 5 biodata will i get anymore? it has been months, I routinary scan everytime i online but not getting anything

[radiant sky]

No, 5 is Max in Alpha season 1

[pure fable]

since you have all your plots at that level it is obv that you say that.
but a bit cringe to advertise requirements for the bonus that perfectly fit you but leave out many others tbh.

people should just get rewarded for the work they put in.

[weary bluff]

tell me you are crying without telling me you are crying

[weary bluff]

i personally gave up, cuz we have hundreds of millions of dollars project and we cant update our game, we gotta redownload it

ill play again when they start treating it as AAA not indie mobile game

[analog inlet]

I been read your posts for a long time and honestly think you need to do more research in to the concept of Illuvium zero and temper you expectations to somthing more reasonable.

Illuvium Zero from concept was a companion mini game to Overworld.

I have been following the project since 2021 and recently made a post regarding my personal anayalis of all the IP currently in development by Illuvium labs here there is also a link to a twitter poll on the message I replied to #💬〕general message

[weary bluff]

i dont think thats reasonable excuse for making me redownload the game for 15th time

[analog inlet]

I just searched the illuvium zero channel - re download re-download and download Your concern does not seem to be echoed by those who frequent this channel in recent history.

Re-downloading should be not be a surprise at this stage of development

Perhaps you just need to accept it as another aspect of playing a game that is still in beta or a local issue you should talk to support about if you are getting errors

[dreamy cipher]

will we also migrate our land and blueprints since IMX is migarting to zkEVM?

[native spade]

any updates here? i thought we're starting beta

[weary bluff]

very few people care about zero tbh, land owners gave up long time ago.

everything now is arena and beyond

[placid finch]

i remember someone said early land holders were to be rewarded did we get an update on it?

[dreamy cipher]

They said it will be crater of fuel or something that can be used in the land gameplay.

But no date when

[placid finch]

Can I get the graphics that show how the illuvium zero will earn?

[teal mural]

Zero is not on a platform like epic so we have to redownload for now, it is what it is and when we start making money and adding new features zero will be great. It takes time also we went with building great graphics for the foundation which takes longer we can add new gameplay later, other games went with fun game play with terrible graphics. So we will see how this plays out

How many plots of land do you have?

Is it only the T1?

[weary bluff]

wait wait wait wait wait wait

the airdrop that land owners receive is fucking fuel ?

[weary bluff]

yep

still regretting it tho

that land sale was almost as big of a scam as beyond is

[lethal wyvern]

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[blazing ferry]

Fuel's a pretty awesome airdrop reward if you ask me. It'll jump-start our lands, especially T1, and make a big difference getting up and running quickly (assuming it's in a state that can be used in ILZ). It's something that has tangible value in this ecosystem and will be sold for ETH. It's also extremely straight-forward and easy to implement, so shouldn't add any delays to launch.

[weary bluff]

ye beyond and arena are gettin paid and we gonna get fuel that we can get anyway

its like giving me battlepass experience in valorant or something

[blazing ferry]

They could drop us ETH or ILV, but that's just currency. Fuel is also currency but has the added benefit of in-game use so we can elect to do either with it.

[weary bluff]

all games exist because of land owners and somehow we r most fucked

[blazing ferry]

The delays undoubtedly were terrible for land holders, but also bad for ILV token holders. In this case though, I think the reward is very nice. We still don't know how much fuel and what that will be worth, you could be pleasantly surprised.

[weary bluff]

i will most definitely not be pleased or surprised, even if its 10 000 of each

[blazing ferry]

that's a weird thing to say 😕

[weary bluff]

if u start thinkin about it

that is some genius level move

this is why i keep saying that they have no clue whats happening

i doubt they realize how much damage that will do to the economy and onboarding new owners

[blazing ferry]

Why should new land owners be rewarded? They weren't holding $millions worth in land NFTs for over a year of delays. If it messes up the economy, it's only because the games don't gain traction and players, in which case no investors in any of these assets will be very excited.

[weary bluff]

well, one thing is certain, they are doin whatever they can to kill ilv

could be a clever rug play if u see the big picture

they were in such a rush to release unfinished arena and going out of their way to block web2 players from playing it, showing bad results, apply that to all games with other extras like this airdrop that prevents new investments

fail big time on other games, call it fail, quit.

[blazing ferry]

How much more will they spend on development and for what future revenue gain if this is a rug? That doesn't make any sense. There's no big inflow in revenue coming up unless the game is successful right now.

[weary bluff]

i dont see any development happening, atleast in zero

idk about arena

they said theyll put tutorial

i guess thats work

and im pretty sure that overworld will see overwhelmingly small numbers of players due to paywall

[upper brook]

You should remove "BATTLE" in your name, would be more accurate.
Look, nobody here is happy with the situation, we'll see what happens.

[weary bluff]

yeah well if all of u that are not happy about the situation also voiced your disappointment, we wouldnt have beyond now

just extra way to suck money

[blazing ferry]

You really think they have 100 people just sitting around doing nothing on the payroll? There's no reason you should be seeing the development they're doing until the games are launched. The alpha was for feedback, but they don't need to release every single new feature they develop into the alpha for our feedback. That would just be a waste of time. There are many changes coming with the release.

[weary bluff]

no i think the ppl on the payroll are doin their job, is the people tellin them what to do that are to blame

whoever approved the launch of arena , thats the guy

now theyre literally paying people to play and i still dont bother logging in, because its a shitshow

[blazing ferry]

I agree, the scope of these games has expanded greatly, but as someone who looks long-term I actually like this and think the delays are worthwhile to set Illuvium up for true greatness and longevity. I know many like you disagree, and I get that too. Only time will tell.

[weary bluff]

i wouldnt mind waiting if there was something backing us up, but with wrong move on every turn and total disregard of the investors

that right there deserves all the salt

everything they do and have done is to sustain the ilv coin, nothing else

including land sale.

beyond holders are probably still receiving their own money, but that wont be for long

[blazing ferry]

The tokenomics include a massive amount of ILV for in-game rewards. I don't think we're even scratching that so far.

[weary bluff]

which game tho

[blazing ferry]

all

[weary bluff]

cuz theyre feeding beyond and arena

[blazing ferry]

any

[weary bluff]

well ive never heard of any rewards for zero

planned or otherwise

also on top of that ure going to be able to be raided and ull lose your resources from what i heard

[blazing ferry]

fuel airdrop is a nice rewards, but long-term do rewards for zero make sense?

[weary bluff]

i thought its all games

[blazing ferry]

It can be used for any/all games, sure, but why for zero?

If I play, isn't my reward being able to sell fuel?

Should I get extra rewards if I sell the most fuel or something?

Not sure how that would make sense

[weary bluff]

ok so why overworld, if you play isnt your reward selling monsters there

[blazing ferry]

I think so

[weary bluff]

u with t3 or t4

[blazing ferry]

t3 is my highest

[weary bluff]

yeah i thought u got a big one, u ethlizard guys have bags

should have gone for ethlizard instead of land 😄

[blazing ferry]

haha, not quite like some of the others...

[weary bluff]

theres always a bigger fish

i think land prices droppped like 30% with this " airdrop"

imagine what kind of airdrop it is

i should have sold on 0.3 😭

[polar cosmos]

BP minting period is over?

[vivid cipher]

Yes

It's possible that the team will manually assist some people that experienced bugs.

So there may be a few more minted still. Unsure.

[polar cosmos]

finally, so what now with IZ? What will be next?

[lusty crag]

That's the question lots of us are asking themselves. Myslef included.

After almost two years you would mean that there is some "earning" for the greedy land holders as well and not just for arena and Beyond.

[reef jasper]

it was voted by the community i believe

[copper charm]

Thanks m8! I think it has the best variety of any close to the floor

[copper charm]

👀

[open gulch]

Would you take trades for it? ^

[native spade]

is the beta still happening or not

[reef jasper]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[livid tinsel]

Floor dropping really fast 🥲

[livid tinsel]

Those Greedy bastards they will colapse the entire economy 🤣🤣🤣

[placid finch]

why

[livid tinsel]

Lands are just a waste of money so far and the future doesn't look bright. Another crypto scam who knows 🙄

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

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[lusty crag]

For real ?! 😂
It's not like we're the once who waited the longest on anything, right?

[lusty crag]

Nobody knows, what's for sure back then I had more hopes. Now I see more grey then sun.

The way everything develops and goes it's path around Illuvium.

Well was a nice ride.

How funny would it be if they telling us in Q2, oh guyz, you know we had this and that feature which we wanted to add as well, we have to delay another quater - LOL

"Meanwhile" her is wave3 beyond - have fun throwing more money out of the window.

[weary bluff]

see, its not just me 😄

[livid tinsel]

What i hate the most, not just here from the entire industry is that they are unable to stick to his roadmaps not sure why. 😐

[cyan bone]

It's not some great mystery, we're delivering 20+ projects with a huge number of moving parts and dependencies.

The roadmap is best estimate it's not a promise and a kiss on the forehead.

Once again I'm reading a whole lot of speculation and tears when nothing has been formally announced. You're working yourselves up before what's being delivered has been made clear.

[livid tinsel]

I can understand that for sure but why not keep delivering on the same road map. I mean i bought land cuz kieran said lands are where "everything start" that is promising on a project like this but seems lands are the last components on this project.

[cyan bone]

How is that the case?

We have a dedicated team of engineers working on Zero.

What more can we do but turn up to work everyday and work our asses off?

[livid tinsel]

Comunication is important you are here replying that is important 👍👍👍🍷

[cyan bone]

Nothing has changed, Land Owners generate the fuel that powers the ecosystem. Eventually that Ecosystem will be 5+ games etc

[livid tinsel]

Why we don't see an annoucement of the development or changes. We all are on fear and that is reflecting on the floor prices. I believe that an annoucement on that regard can put a rest on the comunity is my believe. 🫠

[wispy prism]

All web3 games and games in general do this. Because game design has multiple variables that can push things behind. Perhaps you should have done more research before investing in web3 games.

[wispy prism]

Because some things can be kept away from us.
The more this community knows the more they attack.

Sorry Nick.

Apologies for jumping in. I'm so over all the bs.

[cyan bone]

Zero Team update Monday 05/02

• UX/UI Reviews and alignment session with Florian
• Animation reviews and alignment between Julian and Matt
• Finished re-importing updated assets, looking to import missing animation sprite sheets, mostly region specific ones
• IZ: Reviewed Power Stations docs, planning server-side implementation
• IZ Research API: Started working on Research API, implemented activity processor generating events, except for research result
• IZ Land Plot Transfer: reviewed document, left comments and clarifications
• Continuing with animation features. Implemented some minor fixes from yesterday, and then went on to the state-based animations. Continued work on that feature and getting the extractors animating.
• Finished zero-3602 Issues and Ready for Review.
• Tried reproducing zero-3603 and spent some time researching how passive generation/converters work to try to spot the issue from the coding side of things. The conclusion was that this issue is not reproduceable/ is fixed.
• Added the fetch goals and validate goals api endpoints
• Continued polishing the activities rewards claim queue system
• Reviewed Marketplace CR
• Reviewed Igor's PR on shared library updates
• Call with Mugur to fix some issues on the Main branch
• Merged and fixed conflicts on multiple main branch commits
• Sync call with Jay to begin planning upcoming sprint
• Jira tickets cleanup and updates
• Continued work on activities rewards and claim queue system

@livid tinsel

[livid tinsel]

This is awesomeee for real 👍👍 i know you all are working hard is not my intention to make you feel the contrary but what i meant was where the game is and where is going in about 1 or 2 months. 👍👍 but this is awesomeee thanks.

[iron veldt]

Hey, when is the official release for Illuvium zero?

[high sleet]

I've advertised nothing, I am just taking a guess that makes logical sense to me. Draw your own conclusions

[rotund forum]

Some seem to think the answer to all problems is just spamming a ton of complaints, but although there might be some constructive criticism in there to be found, in the end it does a lot more bad than good. The tension here is felt by all (I assume) and makes reading through the daily posts here a more toxic experience than ever before, and that is a real shame for such a great project. Personally I think a lot of the frustration even has absolutely nothing to do with illuvium but rather the long awaited next bullrun not presenting itself as soon as everyone would like. Yes, the waiting sucks, but we’re all in the same situation, we know very well the team is on it, patience is still the key word, and disseminating some positivity will get us a lot further than constant moaning. I for one can confirm for my part I have the same rejoice I felt in 2021 when I bought land; it actually only has grown since then with the anticipation of the ever closer Open Beta release. We know it is imminent, just hang in there and we’ll be farming fuel and blueprints in no time. Cheers

[wispy prism]

Thanks IZI,
I wish there were more posts like yours to counter the negs.
❤️

[jaunty rain]

and how does your afternoon look like?
jk 😆😆😆

[analog inlet]

Honestly IMO this kind of statement is absurd and has absolutely no bases in actual fact.

Please justify and back up your statement .

Also IMO it proves my earlier statement you need to research what you bought more and trying to compare it to any other IP is really not relevant .

The *ONLY in thing in terms of Revenue landowners are " owed" or "entitled" to is 5% of fuel based revenue( as per IIP-20) * ( basically $50 000 per million).

This is put in the landowner revenue pool to be EARNED by landowners producing and swapping Fuel to the balancer and paid out in eth. If you actually read the documentation you would realize that.

Also the land sale only made Aprox 7million in actual revenue the rest was SILV-2 which does not count as REVENUE it was good outlet to burn that Sliv -2 but it had nothing to do with the other games existing.

Did you even read that post link to you regarding all the different products Illuvium labs is producing? #💬〕general message

[rotund reef]

"The loudest boos come from the cheapest seats" --Babe Ruth

[teal mural]

🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[teal mural]

50k per M isn’t bad plus we make our own money from selling fuel

[analog inlet]

@cyan bone 🤨

[vivid cipher]

No that’s not what he said.

The fuel is the $50k (or at least part of the 50k)

[cyan bone]

You called sir?

[analog inlet]

no nothing to say really... just a general observation on your posts . You always make time to share your thoughts with the community.

[teal mural]

Want so if I have 100 fuel and sell it for $100 I only get $5?

I thought we get 5% from all in game sells and what we make off of fuel is ours

[open gulch]

If thats true, then we just have a huge advantage in overworld

Since fuel is easy to get and wont cost 100$

Per refill or wtv

[teal mural]

Damn I misunderstood the information 🤣 we ain’t making shit in till we pulling in 250M a year. Which we could do in 2025 or 2026 if add in the rite game play

[vivid cipher]

You sell what you make. And all lands make 5% of all fuel

Sell $100 worth of fuel and the DAO will sell $1900 worth of fuel at the same price.

[teal mural]

Ok now that what I was thinking!

And we make 5% off the 1900 rite

[vivid cipher]

No

[teal mural]

🤦🏾‍♂️

[vivid cipher]

You make 5% of the $2000

You already did. By selling $100

$100+$1900=$2000

5+95=100
1+19=20

That’s all 5% of all the fuel sold.

You sold that 5% first which then activates the DAO to sell the other 95%

IF land owners don’t sell enough fuel because they don’t have enough fuel then and only then would the DAO be the only ones selling fuel. Then and only then would the land owners get 5% of what the DAO sold.

[hearty cradle]

wen Heroes of Zero

[teal mural]

Ok got you. That works for me thanks for the breakdown needed that

[ancient nacelle]

Any new info from the council regarding megacity shapes?

[dreamy cipher]

@cyan bone will our land and blueprint need to migrate assets to imx zkEVM? i saw in IMX discord zkEVM mainnet is live.

[ancient nacelle]

I know we are currently 2x2 and 3x3 but there was discussion regarding other shapes.

[vivid cipher]

No

Imx is not getting rid of its other network

[ivory badger]

Is there a date when lands will get reset , I’m still working on getting all my buildings to max lvl

[cyan bone]

Not confirmed, it will be a fresh start at Open Beta launch

[ivory badger]

Cool , I’ll just keep building till it resets

[tardy fern]

lol

@radiant sky mavia at 250k DAU confirmed by team

I see kieran and rick have committed some serious play time in it haha

[hearty cradle]

dr spoon is 1500 trophies

[tardy fern]

Dafaq

Hq5?

[dreamy cipher]

thats a lot of players ser

[dreamy cipher]

do they stream it?

[tardy fern]

They are a kick partner

So I think so

First web3 game to partner with a big streaming company

[odd bone]

hello is there any news regarding the beginning of Illuvium Zero?

[dreamy cipher]

Q2 no exact dates announced

for open beta

[odd bone]

ok so once minted the biodata, we are done for the moment with Zero, right?

[dreamy cipher]

they mentioned airdrop for land holders and players who reched "end game" but no criteria given what "end game" means

[odd bone]

oh ok I missed that info about airdrop.... did they announce it? or was just a message in the chat?

[dreamy cipher]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

here you go

[odd bone]

great thanks a lot!

[paper lance]

what is the definition of end game in here sir?

[dreamy cipher]

not yet announced we have to wait

[little moon]

@cyan bone Can you please let us know what this end game means? If it's maxing out all buildings then T1 land owners (me included) will have a tough time if we don't have enough time before this supposed airdrop.

[paper fractal]

illuvium rewards zero ,like the name kkkk

[polar cosmos]

What does it mean? reached end-game?

[mortal smelt]

You scrolled waaaaaaaay back to comment this? Pls get a hobby.

[rotund forum]

Excellent breakdown. I think people are still misinterpreting the numbers though; they say land owners “only” get 5% of revenue through selling fuel whilst the 95% goes to ILV stakers, and therefore automatically is a better investment. What they seem to overlook is the fact that this 5% gets distributed over currently 20.000 plots (max. 100.000 plots), whilst the 95% gets distributed over 6.000.000-7.000.000 staked tokens. Ofcourse you have to look at a lot of other factors; it’s not really the amounts of lands that matter but rather the amount of fuelsites (and forgetting conveniently that not all fueltypes will have equal worth). This brings us to the following numbers: summing up all 20.000 current plots you will have a total of 47.438 fuelsites. Thus per fuelsite you will get:

0,000105400733589 of total revenue. If you break this down over tier of land you get the following:

T5= 0,001264808803068
T4= 0,000948606602302
T3= 0,000632404401534
T2= 0,000316202200767
T1= 0,000105400733589
And if we look at what 1 ILV would receive in total revdis (assuming 7m staked) would be:
1 ILV = 0,000013571428571
If we go back in time a bit towards the landsale the price of IlV was much higher, so if you’d bought a tier 3 land for example you could buy a whole lot less tokens for that same price as is currently the situation, making land actually the better investment. But with todays prices and the same formula’s it is clear you’ll get a lot more bang for your buck investing in the token rather than in land (which has stayed a lot more stable in price compared to the token). I think in a bullrun and gamelaunch the token will rise in price a lot faster than lands, again making lands at least from a revdis stand of point a lot more interesting investment again.

[radiant sky]

Yea saw that. Really sick!

[radiant sky]

Actually 1600 😜

[rose maple]

Found the issue, on tablets you have a setting called "Request Desktop Site" whilst browsing, a Samsung update switched this on by default, this blocks the illuvium site from knowing you are on Android and you are unable to download the game update.

Damn it was bothering me, glad it's resolved.

[weary bluff]

i have been freed from timeout prison

[weary bluff]

they tryna play a cool game for once i see

[reef jasper]

instant negativity.. go spew it somewhere else

did you not learn your lesson in timeout?

[weary bluff]

no thats like #13

its because of me that land owners r gettin airdrop, be grateful 😄

[reef jasper]

i somehow doubt that

[weary bluff]

ye true, if it was cause of me we would actually be gettin something

[reef jasper]

i somehow doubt that even more

[oblique pier]

What airdrop?

[vivid cipher]

There’s very little info available about the idea of some rewards for land holders/IZ players. The second bullet in this old pin is one of the earliest mentions of the idea. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Perhaps there was some mention of stuff elsewhere but it’s not been concrete yet and we’ve not pinned anything and there’s been nothing through council. Maybe some things mentioned in AMA videos too. I’ve heard some people say that some fuels getting airdropped is a possibility. But that won’t happen soon are anything. Since that would be to prepare things for the public launch of the other games.

[paper sleet]

When does season 2 start? Q2?

[oblique pier]

Cheers. That's what I thought. I did not think there was anything concrete yet, but I thought I may have missed something in past few days.

[blazing ferry]

Kieran did mention it in the recent Illuvitalks video with Andrew. As mentioned though, still nothing concrete in there.

[devout panther]

If someone buy a land can partecipate for the AirDrop ?

[teal mural]

It maybe base of how long you held you land since the sale

[open gulch]

There’s nothing for sure yet

[cyan bone]

Zero Team Update Tuesday 06/02

• Sprint Planning, Julien & Jay
• Finished importing all missing assets, merged into VFX branch
• Path System API integration
• Sync with Mugur on Goals System
• Continued work on the Activities Rewards claim queue system. Pushed a v1
• Continued working and testing the Activities Rewards claim queue system
• Started working on Speed up activity API integration
• Started testing, debugging and fixing the live environment. Working closely with the backend team
• General fixing and optimizations on the live environment
• Merged Zero-3602
• Implemented get goals endpoint
• Fixed goals rewards prefab not being able to display more than 3 rewards
• Updated the goals code to work with the latest backend changes
• Removed start and complete goal validations
• Implemented claim goal validation endpoint
• Working on the customizable state feature on renderers.
• Matt & Julien sync re animation system, looking to complete eod tomorrow.
• IZ: Minor fixes & Bugs addressed
• Continued work on Research result generation, added static data loading for facts

[vivid cipher]

If these end up being everyday I’ll need to make a compilation of these in a single pin. THOUGH your threading via replies may be enough.

https://tenor.com/view/wilson-dan-appreciate-about-you-letter-kenny-hick-gif-9506960

[cyan bone]

Not sure if it should be an everyday thing but I do want to hammer home the point that the dedicated team on Zero are pushing a ton of work each day.

Once we hit Open Beta, we can work on and deliver new features in-silo quickly and efficiently instead of the entire base game.

[reef jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/hammering-plankton-spongebob-squarepants-bashing-battering-gif-25583117

[open gulch]

Could be a lot of specific things the team worked on (like you did today) every 3-4 days and more broad and general things everyday in between. So as to not overwhelm anyone but to still see the amazing progress and to prove that a dedicated team is working hard on the game

[cyan bone]

Sounds good, I'll try to provide some form of update weekly

Better me than Julien who's working on delivering code

[open gulch]

Is open beta when there’s gonna be a wipe and fuel will be sellable or am I completely off?

[cyan bone]

That's correct yeah

[open gulch]

You’re the man!

[jade ruin]

when new illuvials to scan??

[wispy prism]

Maybe even a specific channel, I've seen some projects have dedicated Dev updates. Maybe connected to this channel.

I think these are brilliant btw. Thank you for doing it.

[high sleet]

Wait why do we need proof? Outside of 3 currently playable games

[open gulch]

Shiiiittt youre right

Cant fight against facts 🤷‍♂️

[cyan bone]

Land Owners should be confident in the fact that we have a dedicated team working on their investment daily.

If there is any uncertainty surrounding that fact, I can help to dispel it.

[ancient nacelle]

Love your work. Imho I don't need to see the daily breakdown of what the team is doing, it ia appreciated but not necessary. Your time is better spent on the work itself not on the reporting of it. Johnny used to do a weekly or monthly dev report that kept us upto date on general things.

Don't let the loud minority push you or the team or get in your collective heads. We know you take our questions and feedback seriously and are doing your best to deliver. The fact that the team is engaged and has been for years is proof.

[cyan bone]

Appreciate that, we're not wasting any time here.

[iron bay]

QQ: Is there any way to improve the research success rate of illuvials?

[analog inlet]

This is intended as a constructive analysis

I think you are simplifying this comparison and missing some important stuff if you are trying to do a fair comparison there is a lot more you have to consider if you want to make graph comparison like that

4 major things you should also consider about staking when doing a comparison

1. The main major difference is
   Land gets paid out in ETH
   Stakers get paid out in RevDis (Unlocked ILV )

2. ** Staker's Have access to every revenue pool that exists in the DAO not just fuel **(various fees merch future royalties etc etc ....) other than the landowner 5% fuel stuff and some other "costs" in specific cases every penny that the DAO makes form any source goes into the REVDIS pool so it will always be inherently bigger than the land owner revenue pool

3. Revdis payout being ILV can be staked (for the gas cost) - therefore compounding the stakers holdings -
   example if all or a portion of each pay out is added to their existing stake -- their next payout will always be a bigger portion than their previous payout and will continue to grow passively over time

4.** Not all Stakers are paid out the same** for example even if 2 people have exactly 100 ILV staked if person 1 only staked for the 1 month minimum and person 2 staked for the 12 month maximum the person who staked for 12months will make more than the person who staked 1 month due to the " token weight" difference even though they have the exact same amount of tokens staked.

My point being trying to do the comparison you are doing has more factors to consider in it than what you have presented

[mortal smelt]

🙏 this is the update we needed, thank you all for the hard work being put into deploying OB.

[fickle goblet]

What is Zero-3602?

[sudden zinc]

GM! Was not there for a while.. REad some nice infos! When is now the start of Zero and as of when can we get Rewrads for it? many Thanks! 🙏

[dreamy cipher]

no date announce.

we must wait for announcement

[lethal valley]

hi, anywhere where i can read about how to use the api?

[teal mural]

Where should land owners focus probably be rite now- “Maxing out your land” just in case there an extra reward for that. Also don’t worry about getting the rewards rite away because you can’t do anything with it in till the game starts anyway. Were at the finish line let’s keep our eye on the prize. 3 months baby let’s go!

🔥🔥🔥

[heavy hamlet]

No need for so frequent updates to the community. It can end up being a time consuming task for the person compiling and reporting these progress points. Some of these are so specific they only make sense to coders and developers.

Maybe every two weeks at the most. Let em work.

[graceful siren]

I love this project and won’t be selling my land any time soon. I think the Devs are really good at conveying that they care about the community. As long as that trust is there I don’t really feel I need to follow the detail of what they are doing. Keep up the good work and thank you!

[native spade]

hey guys what's the news?

did the Beta start? can we mine cryptons now and sell for $$?

[reef jasper]

soon

[vivid cipher]

Are you a spam bot?

[reef jasper]

just giving the people an update

[drifting shoal]

So after I get all the blueprints is there a reason to keep building, there will be a reset before official release right?

[real ice]

what is better to buy 1 xT4 or 4xT3 lands , any opinions?

[vivid cipher]

What is your intention with the land? Do you plan to play the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game and get fuel? How much is your time worth? Do you ever want to be able to sell a portion of your land?

[real ice]

yes i want to play and generate fuels

thinking daily

yes if i want to sell some then its better t3 i think

[vivid cipher]

4 t3s will probably take a total of like 5-6x the amount of time to play than a single t4

You’ll probably produce more fuel on those 4 t3s though

Probably not 5-6x as much fuel though

[real ice]

yes its takes more time but to generate more fuels better 4xt3 i think yes

so it looks like T4 is overpriced now

[vivid cipher]

It comes down to how much you value your time

[real ice]

better for price pick 3xT3

[lethal valley]

T3 has almost useless landmark, but T4 has fuel landmark
i think the prices are pretty balanced actually

[vivid cipher]

Landmark is like 25% or 33% boost?

[real ice]

t3 landmark only for elements yes

[vivid cipher]

Looks like @radiant sky has data showing t4 producing double the amount of fuel as a t3. But that’s before the landmark I think.

[real ice]

yes but if you buy 4xT3 for same price of 1xT4 then T3 its more better to produce fuels only time takes more i think

[radiant sky]

It's Alpha s1 data, Beta will shake those numbers up pretty much i guess.

[real ice]

anyone selling T4 for 12k 😂?i buy now

[lethal valley]

hey im soon to be buying some lands, but idk how everything works with metamask and imx deposit
can you write some hints or steps that i should follow?

[native spade]

I'm selling my land for $498

[lethal valley]

#🛒〕land-dex

[rose maple]

I've missed you Solar, nice to see you back

[lethal valley]

why

[lethal valley]

i dont get it
you wrote a whole essay about converters just so in the end to say the same thing as me that T4 landmarks are good and T3 landmarks are useless

[teal mural]

🤣

[lethal valley]

ok so what youre saying is that all landmarks are useless, but T3 are more useless than T4. right? xD

its a yes or no question xD

i did. but my logic teacher didnt teach me that kind of stuff
so you gotta clarify xD

the question that i asked man...
yes or no. you need a spreadsheet for that?

[pearl marten]

While yes the T3 landmark IS useful only early game (2-4 weeks) as there is no element sink in the late game, this strategy won't really work anymore with the new efficiency system in place.
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

At least that's how it seems at the moment (not tested)

[lethal valley]

where can i read about the new efficiency system?

[pearl marten]

I haven't found the entire thing but you can click on the link i've posted earlier and scroll up ... it takes you to some things Johnny said

[lethal valley]

a allright. i thought its like a big change or something

[pearl marten]

It kind of is ... because you won't be able to fill your plot with converters and cancel the negative impact by just adding an endless nr of power stations .. but it's just a theory of course at this point

[lethal valley]

ok sweetie 😄

[willow hatch]

so now that the minting period has passed, any word on when the next (and final?) land reset will be?

[vivid cipher]

No

[willow hatch]

that's okay. looking forward to see how things have changed and the building thats being done. Keep up the great work!

[grand silo]

exactly!

[weary bluff]

so, when are we gathering to riot the airdrop

[lethal valley]

what airdrop?

[weary bluff]

but all they did was say, hey we will give u some fuel

[lethal valley]

where can i read that?

[weary bluff]

they dont do writing, the intern was fired, i believe kieran said that in some stuff in some space, idk, nobody knows

it was @amber atlas that filled our minds with hopes and then crushed them with fuel

[lethal valley]

what intern? what did they do?

[weary bluff]

probably questioned their moves, idk

here if u ask questions u get muted

[frozen finch]

I wouldnt take anything coming from the Bulgarian doom prophet too seriously✌️

[weary bluff]

😂

ye i was jokin bout the intern, but not about the airdrop

[lethal valley]

X_X
im tryingto understand this project better...

[lethal valley]

ok now i dont trust you even about the airdrop anymore

[frozen finch]

I believe they are planning an airdrop of fuel to landholders based on criteria thats not 100% communicated at this time.

[lethal valley]

ok any speculation? what could that criteria be

[weary bluff]

:D:D:D thats not wise. 😄

[lethal valley]

i think its VERY wise

[frozen finch]

Holding time and also the lvl of landplot

[lethal valley]

ok then i have no chance 😄

[weary bluff]

its pointless, its beaking the economy on top of being a spit in our faces.

[lethal valley]

why is fuel not valuable though?
i mean soon youre gonna complain that the illuvium team didnt gift you a lamborghini or a bugatti

[frozen finch]

Its a way to have fuel ready to go for open beta tho

[upbeat drift]

so what the thing with ilv zero?

when do we officially launch?

what s the play?

we produce fuel and sell it?

[lethal valley]

in 2025 i think?

[frozen finch]

Yes

[lethal valley]

and blueprints. and some other stuff

[frozen finch]

Open beta q2 2024 according to roadmap

[lethal valley]

yea but launch is after beta

[frozen finch]

Sure, but selling of fuel will be operational for open beta

[upbeat drift]

beta only q2?

it was supposed to come q1

[lethal valley]

yea...

[frozen finch]

Maybe sooner than q2, but they dont want to risk another delay Kieran said, but yeah. Probably q2

[upbeat drift]

so what do we do till then?

we printed our bp

now we stop playing till then?

[lethal valley]

yea

[frozen finch]

You could play for fun. But no apparent rewards for playing at this time, no

Top 1000arena players gets rewards tho, you could try that

[lethal valley]

what percentage is 1000 out of the total arena players?

[frozen finch]

No idea

[upbeat drift]

too much time consuming

ok then

we wait another 3-4 months...

[heady marten]

Is it?

[honest willow]

will ilv zero gameplay now be reset after overworld launched?

[open gulch]

It's gonna be yeah

[vivid cipher]

What do you mean? It is not in open beta yet. So it is not yet operational

[vivid cipher]

No date set yet

[vivid cipher]

But it will certainly be reset sometime before game launch

[honest willow]

I see

It seem take a long time to gather fuel

[reef jasper]

Until your plots are maxed

[vivid cipher]

The degree of misinformation in your message regarding the “lies” about “compensation” is just too much. I’m deleting that.

[grand sigil]

@vivid cipher do we know when next season of zero?

[vivid cipher]

No. I think it will just be the public game launch next. Maybe a couple little things between now and then. Sometime in q2

[grand sigil]

@vivid cipher thanks

@vivid cipher too bad we cant play arena on mobile lol

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-dare-i-do-i-dare-should-i-michael-the-office-gif-21612500

[grand sigil]

@vivid cipher thats why i did not invest there haha. Dont have much time to playy on pc

[weary bluff]

could u drop us the full information about said airdrop

[lethal valley]

dont worry, i think he posted something like that many times before
and we already know how "true" his words are 😄

[lethal valley]

but im still wondering though.
how do you know illuvium is not developing well? i mean what are you comparing it with in your mind?
i know no other crypto games that is better actually

[honest willow]

I can't play zero on mobile lol

It's not on apple appstore yet

[rancid turret]

But you can if you use chrome desktop viewer. It allows you to stream anything from your computer to your phone and the quality is pretty good. I use it all the time when on my break at work

[weary bluff]

because ive played the games?

[lethal valley]

ok what games?

[rancid turret]

You can also use chrome desktop viewer for zero if you have it downloaded on your computer

I am all about mobile and impatient so I found a way to play everything on my phone

[honest willow]

good idea!! never thought of that

[rancid turret]

I have very bad Internet at my work and the quality is still very good and it even works on phone signal

[weary bluff]

arena = total fail, total nonsense and impossible to be played by casuals (large player base), itll just be web3 whales fighting over ilv rewards and few tft sweats , eventually

overworld = boring af, nothing happens in it, u just run around pointlessly.

beyond = scam pictures that only drain the ecosystem

zero = the drain that became forgotten game with zero updates and no balance, which was only created to take our money and feed/ sustain ilv coin , which is often used as an excute "they didnt get 72 million from it" , but in fact they did take 72 million from us, we dont care where the money goes.

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[rancid turret]

There is just a little mouse lag every once in a while but you can get used to it. It is a good substitute until we get a full mobile version

[lethal valley]

but what are you comparing them with?
so far i can only see a subjective view on the game. that belongs to you only, towards only illuvium...

[weary bluff]

why do u have to compare one shit to another shit, i dont get it, we only talk about our shit, the one that we sponsored

[lethal valley]

because some shits are biggers than others i guess...
and you put your money in the game. so why did you put your money in a shit in the first place?
you couldve put it in another game and complain in THEIR server about THEIR game. so why did you choose illuvium?

[rancid turret]

I find this funny because we are still in beta and the game is going to completely changed and this is an amazing game, but if you don't like the game you don't have to play and can just go to palworld if you want no one is forcing you to play

[weary bluff]

we invested like 2 years ago.. what we get is not what was promised

[lethal valley]

what was promised?
and what percentage are you aproximating the delivery from that total at?

[weary bluff]

0 as of now, theres still no games out

[lethal valley]

but no one promised the game launch will be now. did they?

[weary bluff]

and rushing them as they do, only does more damage, we all saw what happened to arena

they literally have to pay people now, so someone can be online in the servers

[honest willow]

arena - I believe some education is needed for every potential players to be able to play smoothly, it is more complex than pokemon
overworld - agree, I believe Kieran said he will solve that issue before open beta
zero - maybe it's not your game, but it does support the ecosystem.

I think the main issue here is that, for illuvium to become main steam, we cannot be like "illuvium is the best web3 game", it has to be comparable to other main steam games.

[lethal valley]

thats over exxagerated....
first of all 0 would mean you couldnt even write here cause there would be o illuvium server anyways. how can you say 0

[weary bluff]

ive played more zero than most , just to add. i was the fiirst to reach lvl 1000 before the first reset

so it is my game, its just not balanced.

and yes, being web3 is the thing i disliked the most about arena launch, normal users cant make a team unless they go in some website, create wallets , etc

[honest willow]

wow that's impressive

[cerulean field]

just relax mate. he always does that. i think he just needs attention

[lethal valley]

yea. got it

[weary bluff]

or he cares about the project and hates to see it fail

we can all see/feel things differently from time to time , you know : )

[cerulean field]

yeah2

[honest willow]

I think the guy has some points, we cannot be ignoring negative comments, but things to improve and go further

just stay calm and discuss...

[weary bluff]

brother because of my ranting here , land owners are receiving airdrops

[lethal valley]

OR
i just need people like you who spread fud so the prices can go lower so i can buy more

[weary bluff]

but those airdrops are trash

well prices dropped 30% in few days

u can buy now

[lethal valley]

ok thanks. you get all the credit for that, right? xD

[weary bluff]

in fact there are plenty of council members that agree with me

no of course not

maybe they dont agree with the way i do it, but they definitely push suggestions based on how we feel

them included

[lethal valley]

let me be more clear actually
i never disagreed with you, but i think youre exagerating things...
i mean sure, there could be less delays, there could be more balance, of course.
but from that "0" to the actual things that need improvement theres some way to go

[honest willow]

yeah, I think suggestions are great, so that we can have a better game to the market

[weary bluff]

ye ofc , sometimes i overdo it, totally agree, but .... thats cuz of passion hahaha 😄

[dusk siren]

I feel like you keep falling over details and decimals

[weary bluff]

ok so basically this airdrop is compensation for delays n shit "in their way" ,but i believe its not compensation for the beyond purchases

which was the goal of the airdrop

[lethal valley]

im dont "keep falling". i focus on

[lethal valley]

are you a lawyer?

[weary bluff]

so now the question arrives that we need to ask, did they compensate us for thousands or millions idk the numbers with bunch of pixels

[lethal valley]

i just wanna say... good thing there are passionate people out there who put money in the game 😄 thats all xD

[weary bluff]

no 😄

[lethal valley]

you would be a good one

i would 100% hire you

[weary bluff]

😂

[vivid cipher]

If I knew it I’d share it. My understanding is that the idea was going to the council and then the team would then make an announcement when things were finalized. And since I’m in none of those groups I have none of the information.

[weary bluff]

yeah.. why fuel of all things. beyond disks would have been thousands of times better

[teal mural]

That depends on how much fuel they give us and he said multiple drops so it could be more then just fuel.

Even with all the waiting the disks is the only thing that annoyed me. Now it was my choice to buy so I don’t complain but I spent 1k on Megadisk and got nothing. Would have been better off spending it on reg disks but I thought it was guaranteed rare ones

But we live and we learn. I will make my money back one day in the game

[weary bluff]

i hope u do

but doesnt matter how much is it or how much theyre willing to break the economy or push away newcomers

that shouldnt have been an option at all

[vivid cipher]

I suspect they are hoping to address a potential onchain minting problem.

My guess is that some of the minting backlog with the blueprints is that there were so many requests at the same time that IZ > immutable X was having some sort of issue. I wonder if the same could happen if fuel were able to be produced in IZ prior to launch but launch day was the first moment that the fuel could be minted. It could be a mess. Again.

Other possible solutions to providing fuel liquidity at game launch seem likely to be solutions that increase risk of abuse or risk of buggy chain behavior or simply bypass land holders all together.

Land holders getting fuel seems natural.

It’s pretty core land utility.

[whole stirrup]

Can anyone tell me more about airdrops? I got like 10 in my wallets, and all of them looks like scam

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

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Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[whole stirrup]

Also, minting period is done now but I couldnt find anything regarding IZ in the announcements? Whats next?

[open gulch]

Wait are y’all actually getting airdrops?

[whole spear]

There is more in the works

[vivid cipher]

No. People are receiving scam NFTs.

[vivid cipher]

Do not trust anything in an NFT like that.

Use the IlluviDex instead of immutable marketplace to see only legit illuvium NFTs.

[little moon]

@whole spear can you please answer this query of mine? I didn't get an answer and couldn't find one. Thanks in advance #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[little moon]

see my question in the link above

[vivid cipher]

I believe that’s simply not been decided yet. Or certainly not shared.

[little moon]

ok, thanks

I thought I missed some convos

[brisk plume]

@cyan bone these updates are super nice to have. Thanks alot.

[cyan bone]

Zero Team Update Thursday 08/02

• Igor leading efforts to resolve some minor API issues
• Team alignment on the Open Beta F2P version of Zero.
• Finished integrating the Builders & Builders Hire API, and resolved multiple issues found
• Continued implementing Activity Scan Result API
• Julien, Matt, Florian UX/UI Alignment
• Finished the speedup API integration
• Added static data support for trade offer categories
• Added MVC for Accept & Cancel trade offer popup
• Implemented goal API call handler to simplify the url generation based on plot id
• Working on the VFX branch, wrapping things up with animations. Set up a scene for working on the animations, wrote instructions for anims, ready for merge latest.
• Continued work on processor logic.
• General debugging, testing and fixes of the live environment
• Peer Code Reviews across the team.

@brisk plume no problem, glad it's well received 🫡

[fickle goblet]

How different will the new UI be? Any possibility of sharing some screenshots 🙏

[fickle goblet]

Ok that's so clean

Looks v mobile friendly

[cyan bone]

work in progress

Florian is a beast, it's looking so clean.

[rose maple]

Sexy...

[tulip perch]

can I order dome of that grass for my yard 😉

[slate geyser]

Any recommended tutorials to play zero? Bought some land but have not had the time to look things through.

[grand silo]

Beyond disks, no thanks. I would rather fuel

[clever comet]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-more-more-more-gif-17052327

[tough field]

Supposing the land prices don’t change from now (which after games launch will be very difficult to avoid), what should be the price of ILV for the two options (land and revdis) based on your math to become similar investments? I know there is a lot factors, but just use the assumptions from your example (landsites, fuel production, etc…) and get some random land tier to compare. Just curiosity.

Assume 20k lands only. I believe the team will open new land sales only after new games are added to the ecosystem. This would be a clever strategy imo because you basically associate new land sales with new fresh fuel demand. This would help minimize the dilution of land revenue for the current land owners, and hopefully increase their revenue if the new game brings a huge new demand for fuel, a demand which the new added lands cannot full fill alone.

[pure fable]

is the level up pop up fixed aka removed?

[bronze bough]

i hope so, it's so anoying 😄

does anybody know when public beta will be released?

[weary bluff]

land holders gettin fuel is literally trolling us and saying we dont give a f about you, theres some useless pixels and we will keep giving money to the other games

tell you what, why dont arena users get extra gold in arena instead of money and beyond users dont receive some points for their idiotic statistics

instead of cash

then ill agree its fair to give us fuel

[lyric hamlet]

Who is this guy👆👆👆

[weary bluff]

one of the very few reasonable mfs around here, apparently 😄

[tough field]

You can sell your fuel for money. All played in other illuvium games exchange money for fuel (because the need fuel to play the game). The fuel is paid to the land owners (the fuel producers). Land owners can use that full to boost your land or just sell the fuel for money.

In the end the fuel is just the money used to exchange value between players of all games from the illuvium ecosystem.

[weary bluff]

no its not.

[tough field]

Tell me more

[weary bluff]

fuel is something that u can farm in there and its no way compensation for thousands of sales of beyond disks

that should be just basic gift that they dont even mention, because we hjold for 2 years

it shouldnt EVEN be mentioned, just a bonus.

this "airdrop" was supposed to compensate the 5% of the sales of beyond

they just throw yall some pixels and ure happy af.. lol 😄

[wispy prism]

Fabulous

[tough field]

The only way to fix that is if they find a way to use fuel in the beyond game. I don’t think they did that yet because the ILZ Is not ready. The game is not ready. So there is no way to pay land owners at this moment, from any game income. Remember that land owners are payed based on their fuel production. But I get your point. Ideally all “games” in illuvium should use fuel. That was the goal. So, If we consider beyond an illuvium game, the fuel usage should be somewhere there in the future

[weary bluff]

they all agreed that sellin discs also means land owners should get shit

but they came out and told us , nah, u get fuel

[wispy prism]

I'm happy about it, I can play the game with it.

[tough field]

I was off for some time. I didn’t get this conversation.

[weary bluff]

yeah, this is why most games suck, cuz of such opinions , ppl being silly.