🎮〕illuvium-zero

[timber glacier]

And if prices stay crazy for months, then I just accept that I can't play higher than T0 anymore?

[celest wagon]

Prices fall if no one buys.

Why do people buy fuel to play if it's not worth the cost?

[timber glacier]

Exactly

The problem is, without a guardrail, you have nothing to tell you when prices will drop back down to a reasonable level.
Too much time and players will permanently quit, which leads to lower fuel sales and lower prices until it's not worth anything.

[celest wagon]

People will stay because it's a good game, there's no problem with the prices

[timber glacier]

It doesn't matter how good the game is if you can't play it, so a lot of players will leave.

[celest wagon]

Okay so how do we decide on the price of the guardrail?

[timber glacier]

We need to know the actual fuel costs, average fuel production of land plots, and ask the community, based on those numbers, what they feel is a realistic maximum price to pay to play the game.

[celest wagon]

I'm just afraid of this decision 'there are people who want to sell fuel for 1 dollar😱

I would say leave the market free for a few months then we can decide on a guardrail

[timber glacier]

Per fuel? Or per T1 travel? T2 travel? T3 travel?

[celest wagon]

travel

[timber glacier]

what stage?

[celest wagon]

People will decide on a guardrail without knowing the true value of the price of fuel

[celest wagon]

No idea probably the t1

[timber glacier]

What will the true value of fuel be?
If, as described in the proposal, Fuel output from plots can be adjusted by the team to meet fluctuations in demand.
Then you still don't have a free market, with or without rails, as the team can just increase or decrease the output as they feel is needed. Same with adjustments to fuel amounts in travel cost.

[celest wagon]

They want so many people in the game that they want to make the game completely free.

[timber glacier]

If they did that they would go out of business.
They still need to make the game sustainable, that means it has to make money somehow.

[celest narwhal]

the problem is complex because it must consider both the change and how this change will have to take place. the liquidity pool we are used to may not be the best method. so recently the idea of ​​the orderbook has been proposed, it is very similar to the in-game marketplace where fuel is proposed at a certain value of eth and on the other side you can see all the offers from the landowners and you can accept or yes can publish a proposal at a better exchange rate. Illuvium in this scenario could still lower the prices in case of too high requests from the Landowners as many lands are owned by Core contributors and team members. initially (now I don't know if it's still like this) the fuel always had a ratio of 1 fuel produced by the land and 19 produced by the pool to ensure that illuvium always had a way of "manipulating" the price in favor of the players, with the possibility of an orderbook market I don't know how this reason doesn't become in practice a price setting - therefore the rails - by the illuvium management.

[celest wagon]

Depending on the price of fuel, the price of the scarcity of illuvials

[timber glacier]

Yeah, that's basically what I was getting at.
No matter what system you put in place, the Illuvium team still has the power to alter numbers. Be it fuel costs or plot outputs.

[celest narwhal]

i'm more interest in the BP and the skin production, how much fuels do we need for the production? and beside the illuvial we will kill merciless for their skin, what materials will we need for the crafting?

[timber glacier]

there's a lot of things we don't know regarding that

[celest narwhal]

and we never talk about shard and sharding

[timber glacier]

I feel like there's a huge lack of basic information on core functions of the games

[celest narwhal]

their cost will be fundamental

but so many people are focusing on fuel

[timber glacier]

and they're set to release the games in a few months according to the latest roadmap

[timber glacier]

shards will cost fuel to cure

think that's one reason why it's all about the fuel and nothing else

[celest narwhal]

crypton has the misfortune of being used "pure" and cannot be crafted into anything else so the dialogue has become stuck on its price. while if the price of solon and hyperion were too low the sellers would concentrate on the production of shards, accessories and skins.

[clever comet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-fuel-i-need-gas-i-need-energy-i-need-power-source-christopher-lloyd-gif-16489517

[timber glacier]

There's dialogue?
All I've seen is speculations, but nothing concrete from the team. Not even an estimate or desired price range.

[celest narwhal]

I think that if the crypton was also used to fuse the illuvials (make them evolve) even if the unit price was really low and the trips inexpensive in the end no one would complain about this because the players would use it a lot anyway.

even if you make a single trip and you are very good and capture a lot of illuvitars you still need crypton for fusing them.

[clever comet]

also, to play with them, to fuse i understand that they must have some "experience" or something like that

[celest narwhal]

ya, they had to reach a minimum level for be fused

like pokemon that evolve at LV 15/30

[clever comet]

to ingress in levels maybe need some " elements" ( fuel, ore, plants)

[celest narwhal]

i think that finghting will be more focus for the leveling

[timber glacier]

from what I read, you'll get experience by fighting encounters in OW and by participating in Arena

[celest narwhal]

ya, i understand that way too

[clever comet]

about price per travel i think it ok like that tier1- 1 $ tier2 - 3$ and tier3 - 5$

[celest narwhal]

i think the T1 travel will be around 1 dollar too. maybe a little less. we need to remembrer that 300 crypton 1000crypoton and 3000 crypton we use now for the closed beta are just random numbers. so i won't be surprise if the travel will cost 100 crypton. and ipothetically not alla the regions will have the same T1 cost. some region will need the community efforts for be open and that can make the enter fee more higt.

[clever comet]

shard ( i think that is the name) we can buy from open market?

[timber glacier]

I think the ratios of fuel between stages might stay the same
so it'd be something like
S1 - 1x
S2 - 3,5x
S3 - 10x

That would, by my average runs set the cost of a T5 S3 illuvial at somewhere around 30-50$, maybe higher depending on costs to get shards, fuse and gain experience

assuming there's no changes to drop/encounter rates compared to the current version

[timber glacier]

supposedly, yes
same with ores, plants, gems and anything else we can find in overworld

[clever comet]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-wow-awesome-impressed-gif-11988818

[vivid cipher]

Looks like synix helped. Public beta is not called public game launch because there Will definitely be a lot more changes and improvements to the game over time.

[vivid cipher]

I don’t understand what is making you say that crypton will work in a way that is different than Solon and Hyperion. All three fuels get used to pay for in game expenses. Each of the three just gets used to pay for different things.

[tacit jolt]

i know this gets asked extremely often… but when is minting phase?

[vivid cipher]

🤷

[empty path]

Sounds like soon to me

[tacit jolt]

so prob next couple weeks or maybe a month?

[empty path]

Nah prolly more like December

[vivid cipher]

It says sometime after September. That’s all.

[tacit jolt]

i want it now 😡

[vivid cipher]

That will just bring all values to zero after being minted. Because there will be no place to use anything that is minted.

It’ll be ok to wait.

[slim wigeon]

100% agree

[tacit jolt]

i know i’m just not very patient

[empty path]

You think they won't be zero when game launched?

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/nfa-illuvium-wink-ilv-discord-gif-23282501

They will likely be near zero.

[empty path]

[vivid cipher]

There’s a lot of them. They are a bit like t0 Illuvitars in that way.

[slim wigeon]

20k plots times 15 yes they will be close to zero

Also more will be produced

[vivid cipher]

Except… their t1 blueprints

[empty path]

You can still find them after this season so it could go to 100k

[vivid cipher]

Holding them will be smarter. It will get me to finding t2+ sooner

[vivid cipher]

After the other lands are sold.

[empty path]

At least gas is free so you can dump them in somebody elses wallet

[slim wigeon]

Did I miss the info that this increases the chance to find higher tier bp?

[vivid cipher]

I don’t think each land can just keep doing the same thing.

[vivid cipher]

T1 is required to get t2

Errr I mean stage

Stage 1 is required to get stage 2

[slim wigeon]

You mean the blueprint for the illuvial not the armor blueprint right?

[empty path]

I think he needs a coffee

[vivid cipher]

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[empty path]

Pls don't ping Johnny, man is busy

[vivid cipher]

I didn’t

[vivid cipher]

Like this…

[empty path]

You replied on his message, yes you did.

[vivid cipher]

Like this

[empty path]

Stop spamming me

Go get your coffee

[vivid cipher]

I’m trying

[slim wigeon]

Would be great if the blueprints can only be minted once and are required to find the next stage this would increase the value of the BP as long you need all of the lower stage bp to have a chance to find the higher stage armor blueprint.

Sell pressure would be much lower and the values of BP and the amoubt of minted BP would go down significantly.

But is ther any information if same armor BP per plot are restricted by any way?

Or can you find like 20 axodon stage 3 armor bluepronts if you are lucky.

I think this will be the case as otherwise secondary sales of land would be complicated if some blueprints are already minted and sold.

[vivid cipher]

My understanding is that it’s not actually restricted by plot but is restricted by game account. So if you have the blueprint you won’t be able to mint it in your account again and would need to move your land to a new account and start the science process over.

[slim wigeon]

Can t wait for the IIP to discuss this. It needs some more clarification.

[rose hatch]

pls accept me into beta

😭

[radiant sky]

I'm basically pro free market.
Rail won't be needed imo, especially not if you have short term, longterm and manual adjustement systems.
To me in General it feels overregulated and i almost feel you could have just set a fix price.
I also don't See a need for longterm adjustement System if you do a short term. They could have just Set up a short term adjustement and if prices constantly rise, prepare next big landsale.

The reason why i voted down is more because of the landsale Part. Which i elaborated multiple times in multiple Chanels, but i Seen to be almost the only one thinking Like that 😅

Since there were a Lot of people voting for fixed prices, and a Lot of people have fear prices can do 100x (lmao) i can understand why they wana have a totally regulated Market. (Not a free Market)
I'm fine with that... takes away some Fun, but dca for regular income is also a possibility. (AT least the question for multiple fuel storage is solved now 🙃)

[vivid cipher]

You are in the wrong channel for beta begging. Return to #💬〕general

[rose hatch]

im not begging lilbro

[radiant sky]

@timber glacier

[slim wigeon]

Wrong chat i think ✌️

[vivid cipher]

Nah. Fuel is on topic here

[radiant sky]

Na somehow it deleted the "answer" function

[vivid cipher]

And spoon is not verified

[radiant sky]

Can't even write in the other Chat... thats just for Investors 🙃

[slim wigeon]

Haha thought because you wrote out of nowhere and Adressed nobody 😁

[timber glacier]

Last I saw from the devs is that you can only find a blueprint once per plot, until it's removed from the plot databank by minting/deleting it

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

I have no idea how they intend to solve us getting straight to stage 2 if our plot databanks gets wiped on reset though

[slim wigeon]

As Johnny writes no duplicates.
Do you remember who said if you mint a blueprint you can find it again?

[timber glacier]

was searching, but haven't found it

[slim wigeon]

Yes especially if you have like 20 plots but only some bp's in your wallet

Really hope we won't have 3-10 mio blueprints of s1 100k of each armor for the 5 illuvials is already much more than needed in my opinion most people will anyway want to aquire a s3 skin 😅

Is it correct that with the first level of the scanner in the future we can also find t5 s1?

[timber glacier]

No, as far as I understood the 5 scanner levels are directly linked to Illuvial tiers, not stages

So lv1 would only find Tier 1 but any stage of that tier

[slim wigeon]

Okay I see and then most likely you only need the s1 biodata to find the s2 and so on.

So this doesn't have to do with the BP you don t need s1 ENERGY BP to find the s2 ENERGY BP.

[fair temple]

I dont think a lvl 5 one will solely tier 5 blueprints. Better odds sure, but not ónly T5.

[timber glacier]

Each level will unlock the ability to find the tier matching the level and any level below

[fair temple]

Oh interesting!

[timber glacier]

T5 will find all tiers, but T3 will only find T1-T3

[slim wigeon]

Would be better thought to not completly dilute the lower tiers

[timber glacier]

Remember you can only find biodata once

so if you already found all T1s, you won't find duplicates

so eventually you'll only find higher tiers on the higher tier scanners

even if you don't actually research the lower ones

[slim wigeon]

Yes right mixed it up with BP

[timber glacier]

that said, it might be advisable to at least get all the lower tier facts

[slim wigeon]

I hope we can discuss when the iip comes to find a way to not go crazy on the BP found in the lab

[timber glacier]

since I recall there being boosts per affinity from having facts

so having all lower tier fire facts should boost chances for Rhamphyre prints

[slim wigeon]

Yes exactly plus the boost for the afinity of the illuvial in the holograpic statue.

But will the facts and the hs only affect finding biodata or also bp in the lab?

[timber glacier]

The statue only affects Biodata found from the Scanner.
The facts only affect Blueprints found in the Lab.
At least that's how I understood it.

[slim wigeon]

Thank you!

Are you working for the project or you just like ilv / ilv0?

[timber glacier]

I just like the game, and try to stay updated on what's going on

And try to spread the correct info to others asking questions 😉

[slim wigeon]

I am glad you are here, have a wonderful day!

[bleak escarp]

A lot of us are grateful for @timber glacier 🙂

[bitter phoenix]

Very grateful. 🙏🏻

[sudden zinc]

GM! Any update when Blueprints mint? Finalized yesterday my second land plot...😉 Now "only" waiting for next step, correct?

[radiant sky]

No date announced yet.
Make sure you also built Zero Point Transducer to be able to mint them.

[sudden zinc]

ui! Good one!! I was not aware that we need this building! Thanks for that Info!!!

[sudden zinc]

..one sufficient!?

..Thanks! Build...:o)) In each plot one Transducer... Now waiting...:o))))

or do we also need ressources for the minting??

[radiant sky]

Yes

[full ferry]

@slim wigeon I didn't know too

@radiant sky do i need to upgrade it too? or are necessary other buildings like data bank?

[radiant sky]

The exact minting process isn't revealed yet.

[glass mauve]

Hi, has the Illuvium- zero game officially launched? Or is it still in testing stage?

[lofty bramble]

It's in alpha. Official open beta is scheduled for Q4

[glass mauve]

Ok thanks

[copper inlet]

@radiant sky @pure fable Quick question to both of you xD
@radiant sky - you mean right side of scanner's area of influence?
@pure fable - you mean Nexus's upper left side?

both cases looks like this :P?

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-the-question-that-is-the-right-question-gif-13658847

[timber glacier]

Left side of Nexus for me.

[severe sparrow]

Assuming open beta is end of December and open beta for Zero is 6-8 weeks beforehand, to allow for landowners to ramp up fuel production, and that there willl be 3-4 weeks to mint blueprints, that would mean the blueprint minting window should start around mid October and end in early to mid November.

So I'm guessing we've got another 4-5 weeks to wait

[true sequoia]

zzzzzzzzzzzz

if we are lucky

[radiant sky]

Yea i tried 2 plots was both on the right side of the scanner, Like in the picture.

[river ingot]

Finally got all my scans....Kind of nice not having to check on the plots anymore. lol

[sharp elk]

Could be 3 weeks beforehand. Doesn’t take long for the tier 3 and 4s to get up to speed.

I wouldn’t know, but there could be an argument for not having all lands maxed out before Open Beta actually starts.

It could cause a crash in fuel prices if there is a load of fuel saved up ready for dumping on the market at the start.
A fuel price crash followed by a fuel price pump shortly after, wouldn’t be a good look for the game.

[hazy jewel]

Hi everybody : is minting blueprints live or are we waiting still?

[radiant sky]

No date announced yet for minting window

[hazy jewel]

Ty

[radiant sky]

Most likely lvl1 is enough.
You don't need a databank as far as i know, but this could Change... who knows.
Wasn't known you need ZPT for a long time...

[full ferry]

Ok ok 👍🏻

For security I upgrade my storage so I can accumulate resources to build everything I will need 🤣

[radiant sky]

Thats what i did 😂

[severe sparrow]

I've seen 6-8 weeks mentioned somewhere I think

[radiant sky]

for what?

[severe sparrow]

Gap between start of zero open beta and main open beta

[radiant sky]

i c
open beta is the thing where all goes live, there is no open beta... just btw 🙂

[radiant sky]

don't think it's gona be 8 weeks.
there is no announcement for having to build a Zero Point transducer, nor an announcement for Minting window and the exact minting process.
If open beta hits end of q4, that would mean IZ would need to launch end of october, which is already pretty close, and with no info on the before mentioned stuff now, i can't see that happening.

but that's just me guessing 🙃

[narrow steeple]

Are there no daily quests in illuvium zero? Countown gues down, starts again and nothing shows up...?

[radiant sky]

yes, there are no daily quests implemented yet.

[pure fable]

yes this is the site that was affected on my plot aswell.

[nova epoch]

@copper inlet || ||

[languid haven]

Any news on when we can mint our nfts?

[radiant sky]

Nope not yet.
Did you build a Zero Point Transducer already, to be able to mint your BP's when minting window opens?

[hearty cradle]

need to build the order book first which will take months to build, test and audit

[radiant sky]

Yea, Main reason why i can't See open Beta in q4

But Team seems to be confident. We'll See...

[hearty cradle]

im sure they know

[real dawn]

Is one Zero Point Transducer going to be enough to mint all 15? And do I need to upgrade it?

[timber glacier]

One per plot, yes. And lv1 should be enough according to the most recent info.

[icy thicket]

I went to Level 2 to be safe 😆 it's not tough to get it to level 3 after you've maxed BP hunting on any tier plot

I completely ignored some lands... just started 3 tier 2s and 3 tier 1s this week... hopefully I can get to 15 BPs quicker than other plots I played 😆

[celest wagon]

Given the fear of the guardrail I change my strategy to specialize 100% scanner I just bought another 3 t2

I play games of chance

[radiant sky]

I decided the other way arround because of IB rewards 😬

[celest wagon]

IB REWARDS ??

[radiant sky]

BB, Mozart, Ranger skins

If you buy a certain amount of disks

[celest wagon]

You are going to sell your land to buy disks ? Or specialize in fuel ?

[radiant sky]

Depends how this iip is going to be defined with mechanisms and if Land does AT little pump i might sell all Land except the MC.
But yea, definetly going full fuel on all Tiers as for how it Looks for now

[serene dove]

Hey can a change be made so you can do the slide/glide from the air??

Also, after closing the map, you have to let go of w and press again to start running. Feels clunky like that. I'm already pressing w, shouldn't I just start running? Or better yet let people run with the map open

[vivid cipher]

You are looking for #🎮〕illuvium-overworld

Contact #❓❓〕support by pressing B in game so they know what you want.

[serene dove]

ty

[celest wagon]

I will wait for their decisions on the price of guardrails to decide on the strategy

[white axle]

from this message till now i have mined 100 tokens. Just checking in every day and clearing them. On my other L2 lands it seems to grow faster as i login more often.

[rotund reef]

For sure yeah, I've just never seen that overgrowth scenario like you were talking about. I would have been interested in trying that while we're still in demo.

[white axle]

Well maybe they fixed it, i dunno ill leave my free plot alone from now on and see how it looks in 2 weeks and let you know 🙂

[surreal arch]

Same boat for me, wen mint?

[hollow shoal]

@vivid cipher so your chart. How does it translate to monetary amounts?

[vivid cipher]

It does not. It’s all averages. Pure theory. Unless we have numbers regarding the amount of payments being made by players.

[hollow shoal]

Okay I figured as much. Still good. Gah I can’t wait. I think I might buy one more T2 and call it.

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/nfa-illuvium-wink-ilv-discord-gif-23282501

[fair trout]

Incase this can help anyone with a tier 1 or looking to buy one it took me 28 days to get all 15 blueprints with 2 carbon and 1 hydrogen excavator and a solon dredge

[vapid quartz]

ping

[vivid cipher]

If you want to dev team to see something be sure to report it as in game feedback or by contacting #❓❓〕support about it

[full spear]

v

[crimson cairn]

guys
are we in season 1 now?
does it mean I can buy a T1 and start playing in the hope of getting something after open beta?

what do you suggest btw?
I'm short on budget now, prefer to buy a T1 to start with
but how much better is T2?
should I straightly buy a T2 and not waste time on T1?

[clever comet]

why are the lands so expensive? when will they drop in price?

[radiant sky]

They are in a Big Discount now...

[radiant sky]

Yea, we are in s1 now.
15 blueprints you can keep if you found them and mint them during minting window AT the very end of s1

[tulip perch]

Close to 45 blueprints now "soon" time to retire for S1

[clever comet]

https://tenor.com/view/sole-collector-sole-collector-gifs-shoes-sneakers-sneaker-shopping-gif-9384261

[potent locust]

Could the development team put the option to refresh the marketplace offers? Right now, to do it, you have to get out of the land and then go back in, a little uncomfortable..

[clever comet]

it's possible to find a land tier2 at 500$?

[mortal smelt]

good luck

[radiant sky]

Check-out the illuvidex
#🔗〕helpful-links

[boreal barn]

wen land

[timber glacier]

Overgrowth requires that you log into the plot at least once to activate it, then just don't do anything on it for like a week or two and it should look like this:

If it just sits unactivated in your list like this, nothing will grow on it until you actually log into it, no matter how much time passes. (Activated plots have Level xx where this has a - )

[boreal barn]

anyone get this error when trying to connect metamask wallet to the dex

[iron laurel]

Log out. Clear cache and try again.

[timber glacier]

Also make sure you don't have any wallet extensions active and that you're on the correct network.

[true sequoia]

t1 you could buy different regions and therefore collect different illuvial info...but I think t2 is the sweet spot for efficiency, fuel production and BP speed personally

[feral moss]

is there already a date on when S1 ends?

[clever comet]

it' possible to see somewhere if all the buildings (in special fuel convertors) are "working" ? i have some buildings very closer and sometime i don't see them

[radiant sky]

Not yet

[icy thicket]

I might be biased in this - but give me atleast 3 weeks to finish these new lands 😆

Forgot how tedious early Tier 1 lands can be 😆

Slow and steady 🐌

[tall crypt]

I don't quite understand what you mean, but fuel prices will be low and as time goes on they will be even lower.
I argue in the fact that the production of fuel will be increasing. This production will be 5% of the fuel that is put up for sale.

[empty path]

3 weeks? You prolly have 3 months 😆

[tall crypt]

I have an academy with 75 lands. Tier 1 takes between 25 and 60 days to complete. The most consistent players get about 18 experience points per day and the worst players 7 experience points per day. The 15 NFTs are achieved when you have 400-500 experience points.

[sharp elk]

That depends what you think is ‘low’.

Also if you are predicting fuel prices going lower after launch, that implies the game not doing very well.

If that’s what you genuinely expect then there are better things to invest in than ILZ land, for maximum financial returns.

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-nickelodeon-sigh-phew-gif-5752975

[icy thicket]

Is that assuming each person has 1 land to play? Or multiple lands? 😆

Cause playing mixed tiers and more than 6 in one account is quite tedious - not to mention swapping between 3 accounts 😆

[icy thicket]

Yup between 400 and 625 on average

Depends on the luck you have getting biodata and blueprints

[tall crypt]

I don't quite understand what you mean, it must be the translator. Low price is 0'015$/fuel in the first days, to finish stabilization around 0'005$/fuel. All of us who have invested in illuvium have invested blindly. That is why prices have fallen, there are those who do not want uncertainty and it has disappointed them and they have sold. It is not worth commenting because they are no longer there. Think about us, the NFTs we will get from those of us who participated will be more valuable than illuvitars from illuvium Beyond. That there will be players who will want to self-produce the fuel and wipe out the supply of tier 1 lands. And that even though the fuel has a low price, a tier 1 can take more than 50 fuel/day after 4 or 5 months of operation
This is why I hold on and have doubled the number of lands since May.

[tall crypt]

the one who scans correctly finds them before 500. There are those who scan with a single scanner and also scan blueprints they already have, logically they don't find them and it takes forever to find the 15 NFTs.

[radiant sky]

15$/fuel 😂
I wish

[iron laurel]

Do we keep our facts or just our BP?

Have one plot that I actually got all 15 BPs and only on level 395. However, I am missing a fact and wondering if it is worth playing to get it.

[icy thicket]

I don't fully agree - there can be 20k of each blueprint assuming every land accomplishes the 15 BPs ... that's alot of duplicate BPs and they are not unique/exclusive

Will be interesting to see what happens during/after minting window

[radiant sky]

Just bp

With Info provided now

Could Change obviously

[icy thicket]

3 to 5 scanners per land depending on the layout - only do it if they are 80% or higher

[tall crypt]

Land tier 1 prouduce 22fuel/day if mine is on the 6 level. Passively You can produce a lot of more-

[icy thicket]

Ahh single extractor yes - but having 100+ fuel converters running = 100+ fuel per day just at level 1

[tall crypt]

If You build ZERO POINT TRANSDUCER to 3 level You have more high to 395

[radiant sky]

In open Beta more Like 50

[tall crypt]

converter tier1: 1/fuel / 2 days. converter tier3: 1fuel/day.

[icy thicket]

But you only need ZPT Level 1 per the Team

So no need to level up to ZPT 3 (plot level of 395 is what was meant)

** I did them to level 3 on most plots in case 😆

[tall crypt]

Zero point transducer to 3 level. But no definitively. Each land with its ZPT.

[iron laurel]

For levels you also have to account for when you started and how many plants were cleared before building started. My later plots I got to all my BPs at much lower levels just because I didn't have to build as much, could just push production with tokens.

[icy thicket]

Back to work for me! Have a great afternoon!

[tall crypt]

Well if your goal was to get the NFTs, you will have achieved it by doing the minimum. But you will have the constructions at a low level and it will cost you an eye to raise the ZPT to level 3.

[iron laurel]

It only has to be at level 1

That's my understanding anyway? Has that changed?

[timber glacier]

This is the last official message about the ZPT:
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[tall crypt]

And what will you do if they tell you in December that it must be at level 3?

[fair temple]

write an IIP, complain, dump lands? 😄

[iron laurel]

First, I doubt they will. Second, they will give us time if they change their minds and third when you aren't doing research any longer you can improve your buildings fast.

[fair temple]

my measures were more drastic lol

[iron laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-pitchfork-kill-burn-stake-gif-11227021

[timber glacier]

Considering Johnny said it's going to require an ICCP to require a level above 1, we'd know in advance that it might be happening, so no surprises there

[tall crypt]

This user, you have doubts. don't trust me The law of least effort makes us do the little things in order to make our existence less complicated. how do you justify it being created up to level 3?. Level 1 to transport (silicon, carbon, hydrogen) to another land of a city. Level 2 to carry fuel. Level 3 for lying NFTs.

[fair temple]

i wouldn't be surprised if it was changed that way during the open beta. but for alpha i'll take the road of least resistance -> lvl 1

[iron laurel]

Oh, when we are out of Alpha I will be working on maximizing buildings but for now, no.

[timber glacier]

There was a discussion about that. Apparently the intention was to have a required level of 4 for blueprint minting in the beta, but lower in the Alpha.

[fair temple]

Ive missed so many of those! thanks for keeping up to date on everything IZ ❤️

[tall crypt]

yourself, but when we're in beta, you won't be aware of what it really means to level up the storage capacitor up to 8 million silicon, production of 12 million silicon and production of solon and krypton to level up the storage and build the ZPT. All this will come to you again. Not to me because as long as I play the land from the first day I will be aware and level up the production capacity and storage of silicon.

[slim wigeon]

how many people playing on your 75 plots?

Did you also get some mega cities?

I play 16 and it s too much.

[vestal badger]

Do you guys think fuel price will really be like 0.005$ per piece?

[hollow shoal]

We are unsure.

[vestal badger]

kind of makes no sense to pay 3000 for a land when it will take you like 5 years to get money back, no?

[amber rune]

can you mint blueprints yet?

[shell rose]

Nope not yet

[celest wagon]

Token ?

[tall crypt]

32. 3 cities 2x2. I'm played 3 lands, but is very hard for me specially manegement de academy. I all lands I played for build zero point transducer to 3 level.

[tall crypt]

there will be something that will make them profitable. For sure, because there are 60,000 lands left to sell. At the current market price it would be $75M, the same that was obtained in the first initial sale.

[gusty fractal]

80000 🙂

[tall crypt]

Ok 80000 lands 100M$

[bitter phoenix]

Not as much Silv2 around for future land sales as much of it was burned. Future land sales should net more eth

[celest wagon]

Need a good roi

[bitter phoenix]

Lol

[tall crypt]

Being able to pay for land with SILV2 is a one-time thing, SILV2 is doomed to disappear. And if ETH disappears it will be paid in another currency.

[bitter phoenix]

All good for the Dao

[amber atlas]

I can't really understand what you are saying. But I'll explain again here in case it helps someone:

• ZPT was always planned to be required for minting.
• The decision to use level 1 rather than level 3 was basically to avoid complaints, because some people have 'done their work' and might be upset at finding out they have to do more. Although the point of the game is to play the game, it is understandable that it might be frustrating to those who got all the blueprints, considered themselves finished, and then started experimenting, tearing down structures, removing storage, etc. The choice of level 1 was a compromise between aligning with how thing should work and not requiring too much extra time.
• This decision has no bearing on, or relevance to, Open Beta.

[neat salmon]

@amber atlas we are not having more weekly updates right? Now is every two weeks?

[amber atlas]

@spring mist is handling updates, I assume would be two weeks as thats the sprint cycle, but will wait for him to confirm

[iron laurel]

If I get all my plots done their BP's before alpha is over I may play one plot longer and figure all that out. However, I was not going to spend the time doing that while I still have BPs to find. You are right though, it is a good idea to know what the process is.🙂

[rotund reef]

I'm taking this extra time to work on goofy stuff like fuel maxxing and "how many scanners can I fit in one corner" type things.

[iron laurel]

Not goofy. It's a good idea and if I broke my Dacord and Twitter habits I would do something useful like that.😂

[inner mango]

Got all my BPs, BDs and facts today!

Wen mint?

And now what?

[empty path]

Now you wait

[radiant sky]

You can fit 1 Scanner in 1 corner 🙃

[radiant sky]

Make are you built a Zero Point Transducer

[wispy prism]

Remember Johnny mentioned scanners need room because illuvials don't like built up areas.

[pure fable]

great! how many plots did you play?

[fierce fern]

If i get my Investment in 5 years back it would be the best Investment i would have ever made.

If that will be the case, then prices go throw the roof.
Also the opportunity, with the minted blueprints and for me the game is fun too.

But lets see what will happen.
At the moment i hope its the silent before the storm.

Show me something better and i would buy it.

[pure fable]

dude I play similar amount and it is really tough, but I am in the final phase, every ressource building on level 7 and starting to build scanners now

[simple dove]

Hey guys, got my first biodata today. Worth anything?

[pure fable]

you have to build a research lab and research that biodata to find a blueprint you can later mint

[fierce fern]

Never read that explanation before. thx
Helps me to understand it was better.
I Have no time to Play more, and stopped like explained.

But would have a solution to keep playing.
Just put some "special blueprints" in. what you can find by luck, and will be a 1 time opportunity and what will never exist again.

That would hype everything!

[simple dove]

Ahh, sweet, can I keep mintinting blueprints using the same blueprints or is it a one off?

[slim wigeon]

Uf crazy nowhere close to you 😅

[timber glacier]

You can only mint a specific blueprint once per plot

[spring mist]

at the moment, we're deep in dev mode, so the news are either rather technical or boring. So we're going for a two weeks update this month (next one on monday), but we'll be back to weekly once we get past that hurdle 🙂

[neat salmon]

I m developer and I personally would like to know about tech things, but I understand that for other can be kind of boring

[hushed mason]

Hello everyone. I work at defillama, was doing the ILV tokenomics adapter. I was wondering if the in-game rewards have started already

[radiant sky]

Interested in Tech aswell, but Bi-weekly is more than enough imo

[inner mango]

Only 1... Spent my $ on other stiff but wish I did on all plots!

[inner mango]

I guess upgrade this too?

[radiant sky]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Lvl 1 is enough

[pseudo pulsar]

The yard work on my plot kinda sucks

[true sequoia]

for those of you with "too much land" if the launch actually creates a fun game and it's worth both our efforts, I'd consider running your land for a split vs buying more land...we can talk at launch time, when hopefully they have any mechanics needed fine tuned.

[gentle grove]

Man I am going to be dead by the time this game is released

[true sequoia]

in crypto time for sure 😉

[amber rune]

hey team - I have managed to get 3 Facts for 5 different Illiviums - I saw someone say that you can get 5 Blueprints per Illuvium - however Ive only managed to obtain 3 - are we sure we can get 5 Blueprints per Illuvium?

[amber atlas]

*Illuvial
And no you definitely can't get 5 Blueprints per Illuvial.

(in the Alpha)

[oak ruin]

there are 5 illuvials to be scanned. Each has 3 blueprints available at the moment. 15 blueprints total to be found.

[amber rune]

ok cool

thats means I've come as far as I can - any idea how these will be minted? and when?

[radiant sky]

you will need at least a Zero point transducer to mint them during the minting window at the very end of season1.
A date is not known yet.

[quick trout]

iOS still on the schedule ?

[empty path]

Kinda

[tulip perch]

Is there any thought to fusing buleprints? I will have 45 before s1 finish's?

and Im only play 3 of 9 plots

[simple dove]

Hey guys, I purchased a few nfts, can I get the blueprints on all of the plots? Ie multiple per wallet?

[radiant sky]

Yes on all of the plots

[atomic cove]

can some1 share the spreadsheet with the buildings levels and cost? ty

[oak ruin]

Illuvium zero needs to start for real soon, if we want open beta to happen this year...

[radiant sky]

No announcement about the need of a ZPT for minting, nor the minting window itself. Won't happen soon i think

[bitter phoenix]

I was thinking about that yesterday too. Hopefully someone has this information.

[timber glacier]

@atomic cove @bitter phoenix
I only have it on my laptop and not on any shareable online spreadsheets, it might still help I guess?

[atomic cove]

@timber glacier you're a star!

[radiant sky]

On illuvihub it is a bit easier to read just btw

[bitter phoenix]

Wow!!! That’s incredible. Thanks

[timber glacier]

Seems I forgot about that one
They are missing the updated Marketplace still though, should we notify someone about fixing that?

And the cost for Holographic statue is off as well for lv1

[radiant sky]

Idk, who's responsible there

I feel there are anyways changes coming for open Beta, they might wait for new data to Update it

[timber glacier]

Yeah, and beta shouldn't be too far off now so

[bitter phoenix]

Silly me. I was thinking some infographics would be cool. Bit too much info for that. 😂

[timber glacier]

I don't expect building costs to change much in beta though

Think there will be more changes to mechanics than numbers

Paths, power, efficiency, passives

[bitter phoenix]

Do you think scan rates and research will be nerfed?

[radiant sky]

Was stated multiple times that in Alpha they are Way higher than they will be in open beta

[bitter phoenix]

And hey?? How did you two get red roles. I’m jealous

[radiant sky]

Knowing some Stuff and spending too much time on discord i guess. 😂

[bitter phoenix]

Oh fair. Lol

Helper roles?

I know very little but spend too much time here. 😂

[celest wagon]

What's that?

[timber glacier]

A list of all the building costs and what each level do

[narrow steeple]

What do i have to do to get more builders?

Any suggestions?

THX

[celest wagon]

Ohh okay Unreadable on my phone but I just downloaded it

[celest wagon]

thank you for your work':)

[atomic cove]

not possible atm

[narrow steeple]

ok...thx

[tulip perch]

IDK they said bluprint easier to come by this season it doesnt feel like that to me Im having to work hard for my 45 blueprints

it feels harder than last season

[empty path]

45?

Oh cause you have 3 land plots?

[tulip perch]

I have 9 but only playing 3

ATM

[brisk sandal]

Hey guys i just got a t1 and t2 land. Do i still have the time to get the blueprints ?

[blazing ferry]

The mint window could come any day now, per the timelines they've provided. Based on other discussion though, I believe there should still be time and it will happen at least 1-2 months into the quarter

[radiant sky]

I hope droprate gets reduced by factor 20+ 😬
Nope point in farming BP if everyone gets them.

[primal robin]

Hey I just bought a land. How can I get this game on iOS?

I try logging into illuvium through my phone but it isn’t connecting properly to metamask

[radiant sky]

iOS is not supported at the moment
It's either Mac/Windows or android

[primal robin]

Aww no way

Alright thank you

[vivid mango]

We can mint this month!

[atomic cove]

sorry to burst your bubble but I don't think so... It says sometime AFTER September

[vivid mango]

The minting window is before that, that would make it this month

[atomic cove]

well let's wait for the announcement for minting and hope it's near

[vivid mango]

probably will be pushed back again

[atomic cove]

I would say they will give 15days to a month for the minting window

so we got time

[clever comet]

please make Illuvium Zero to works on iphone and after release public beta....

[vestal spear]

I went to Illuvihub but the BUILDINGS tab was not working.

[radiant sky]

Working just fine for me

Maybe clear Cache and try again?

[sharp elk]

Just need to persuade Apple to change their policy on NFTs. 😏

[radiant sky]

there should be an webgl version for open beta launch, so iphone user also can play.

[rotund reef]

This is my single biggest concern. If everyone gets them, then they're worth nothing. "We want all of our players to have the opportunity to mint as many..." -- NO!!

My whole reason for buying land goes completely out the window if BPs are too easy to get.

And if there are no 1 of 1s. 1 of 5s at the most for the top ones.

[clever comet]

apple are wired because exist some app for crypto on appstore, maybe in the future they will change, they every time change something

[radiant sky]

Keep in mind we have increased droprates in s1 and there are just T1

[rotund reef]

Are you talking about the era we're in right now, or once the game goes full live?

[bitter phoenix]

There are going to be a lot of blueprints on day one. But not many illuvials

[radiant sky]

The era now

[radiant sky]

True, but i expect Market to get flooded with illuvials pretty fast

For insane prices 😂

[rotund reef]

Hopefully insane as in good. Once we get our BPs, if we can get cheap illuvials on the market it will save a lot of time.

Speaking of, what's the lowest price you can set in ETH? Is there a lowest price? I'm mostly a Cardano guy, I need to understand the ecosystem better.

[bitter phoenix]

I think insane bad to start then insane cheap a bit later. Really hard to know.

[rotund reef]

Yeah, the market will sort itself out. Nobody is paying $20 for a tier 1 illuvial they can catch in a day. Maybe a few suckers early, but not long after.

[fair temple]

i wouldnt be surprised to see a similar thing happen to what happened to Umbre pricing this wave.

[bitter phoenix]

Which was?

[fair temple]

I sold an umbre for 0.12 to start with. then for 0.08, 0.05 and now they go for 0.02~ ish.

And then by the end of rhe wave we'll see that umbre may be more rare than geyyser by number obtained and their price will go back to depict that.
Overvalue -> undervalue -> price found in the middle.

[bitter phoenix]

Good analogy

[bronze prairie]

Hello Everyone. Is there any news in the sense that we will soon be able to forge our blueprints and when the new season could start that will not reset anymore?

If someone has time in brief only 🙂

[radiant sky]

Not really comparable imo. Many more usecases for illuvials.
Illuvials you need for skins, fusing, capture Deck, Arena Deck.
Illuvitars you Ned for points in Album or as pfp.

[fair temple]

True the use cases will be different but price discovery will probably go similarly for a hyped product as Illuvials.

[radiant sky]

Maybe you are right.
But indont think so, sure prices will decrease but not so fast so much because of the usecases.
But yea, who knows maybe Arena doesn't get played, then for sure your scenario is likely

[rotund reef]

I think it's simple market dynamics. When they're scarce they sell for more. Doubly so when it's early and people are excited, or unsure of future scarcity.

[lyric hamlet]

Lands worth 1/4 from land sale. Call it a major success for investors

[bronze prairie]

Guys, did I understand correctly, before September of this year there will be a minting of the blueprints that we have grown while playing in the beta stage?

[bitter phoenix]

All I know is that I will likely follow my usual investing patern…. But high panic sell low. 🤪

[vivid cipher]

No not quite. I’ve never heard that minting would be possible before September

[reef vapor]

anyone know when the minting window will be open?

[cyan bone]

We'll share an announcement 🙂

[reef vapor]

thanks

[bronze prairie]

ty

[vestal spear]

Working fine for me as well????

[radiant sky]

Is this a question? 😅

[vestal spear]

No just confused, I tried a dozen diferent times and it failed and went there to day and worked fine

[radiant sky]

Glad it works now 🙂

[spring mist]

---

Illuvium Zero Tech Update [08/28 - 09/08]

Hello everyone, let's go for a game and tech update!

A lot of stuff has been happening, but I wanted to start by saying that this two weeks interval is exceptional and I do want to keep the updates weekly. The reason is mostly deep tech work that required a lot of concentration. Hopefully this should be infrequent in the future, but we needed to get some work laid out before continuing with the beta:

• we've completely redone our game data format (how we store our structure info, the activities you can do in game, the scanning and research rewards, ...) in the last two weeks, for a simple reason: the alpha currently uses XML format, and is the only game to do so. To get in line with all of our products, we switched to JSON format while also refactoring some of the data's organization. For example, previously each structure level was its own fully described structure, which meant a lot of waste: names and descriptions never change when you upgrade a structure for instance. This has allowed us to optimize the data to be easier to maintain for our GDs and store on the backend size. It being JSON also makes it a lot more human readable for the devs 😄
• This data refactor came in with a variety of progression and UI changes: we've redone all the popups to show more concise information, plot level is finally getting a tangible use via reward milestones, and we've got an initial tutorial designed for new players. This is fully in line with our objective to ship more QoL with the beta alongside new features
• Talking about new features, we've been testing a new authentication flow that makes it way simpler to access the game. This is in preparation of free to play, but also a big QoL change: no more chalenges when you login, straight access to your wallets to facilitate blockchain operations (wink wink fuel pool and IAPs), and generally for the dev team, a much easier process to integrate, that will be available for all of our products.
• Keeping on the blockchain subject, we have done final blueprint minting testing for season 1, and we are pretty much gold here, save for a couple of UX things to fix: make some messages more explicit in particular. No date is decided yet, but keep an eye on the upcoming updates as it could come really fast.
• Once again this has been very tech oriented, but we've got some progress on the art side, in particular with Holographic statues and the work to get 150+ illuvials in game looking fly. Plus the structure is going to be for more than just visuals, as it will have an impact on your scanning and research operations!

There is still a lot of work to do, especially with backend integration, but the team is working hard to make sure we can hold our promises of more security and awesome features. Next up on our dev list is working on refactoring path utility, with some crazy ideas related to automation, but also getting the tech work done on megacities. We might also have a couple of new heads in the team pretty soon 🙂

Thank you everyone for your patience as we continue beta development 🙏

[slate merlin]

As always, thanks for the update! Would another Alpha build help the team test these new features? And there hasn't been any mention of the full plot zoom out feature in a long time, it would be very helpful for us to screen capture our Alpha layouts, any update on that ability?

[wanton canopy]

@spring mist thanks for the update. Good to hear that megacities are next on the dev list.

[radiant sky]

Just crop 4 Screenshots together.
Even tho i don't think it's worth mich, because of changes coming for open beta

[gentle grove]

We want release

[hoary forge]

Soon

[slate merlin]

Thanks, someone always responds to me with this, and I'm well aware, but not everyone has great graphics skills, and a single screenshot would allow us to take screen shots at various stages.

[gentle grove]

Well what is ur definition of soon that could mean many things to many people

[hoary forge]

Plan for public beta is Q4 2023

[radiant sky]

I feel you.
But putting them together in paint, is not really a question of skill. Just a matter of time 🙃

[gentle grove]

Well is it closer to the start or end of q4

[radiant sky]

Like if you can do the captcha to Log into your plots, you can do the cropping 🙃

[hoary forge]

More to the end in my opinion. But how knows 🤷‍♂️

[gentle grove]

So we are still looking at like 4months than that's not really soon

[hoary forge]

But it's soon. 😉 and 4 months go by so fast.

[vestal spear]

I even put them together in Excel cuz that's what I had open

[radiant sky]

Whatever works for you 🙂
Just mention paint because everybody for sure has access to it... and i actually always did it that way

[spring mist]

unfortunately we're not going to have the time to test zoom out in the alpha, art isn't fully ready yet and it's getting a bit too late in the alpha cycle 😦 but I can say for sure that it will be in the beta

[slate merlin]

Okay, thanks for letting us know!

[hollow shoal]

It’s soon. Go back two years. Not soon. 4 months, soon. Easy.

[gentle grove]

Been here since the land sals

[worthy panther]

hello! No New gameplay on this update?

[hollow shoal]

So you know it’s very soon. Once release happens we will be so busy working on land, exploring the overworld, and playing in arena we will forget how much time has passed.

[rotund reef]

So am I hearing this correctly, the unnecessary Level Gain pop-ups are mostly going away? Only the level-ups with something to them are staying? This would be really great.

[gentle grove]

Never forget how long

[hollow shoal]

Haha well then appreciate the extremely hard work that everyone is doing to push out a project that would have taken a regular company or organization 6-8 years into 3 years. Absolutely outstanding.

[iron veldt]

Do we only get now 15 blueprints for each wallet?

or for each land we own?

[gentle grove]

Yes 15 for each land

[iron veldt]

thx

[blazing ferry]

Yep, for sure! #1116402720258142238 message

[young hill]

Is this the right place to raise an inconsistancy in Zero? Michael Jackson may not mind, but why's carbon black and white?

[cinder grove]

I think the black is a converter that is not converting and is passively taking carbon out of the air. It is white when you actively convert another resource into carbon.

[young hill]

No, when you convert it comes up black

From what I can tell it shouldn't be white in any instance, water is always blue. Silicon always white

Carbon should always be black

[vivid cipher]

Almost All the completed activities and full passive converters are white.

It's been too long since I played for me to remember what makes them appear in color. It indicates something useful though.

[young hill]

I stand corrected 🙂

[charred bobcat]

Still waiting for minting window right?

[cinder grove]

I just checked my lands. When a converter is not activated it gives another color. Sequestrian is black, condenser is blue and Photodisintegration is white.
When they are activated they are all dark gray and when finished light gray with white
The fuel converters also have colors when they are passively collecting.

So not a bug

[timber glacier]

Yes, all actions that you need to manually activate (fuel/element extracting, researching, scanning, building) has white icons, while all icons related to passive storage being full have color.

[manic ginkgo]

Bug, my illuium market has a bug.

[lapis gulch]

Dev update tldr: JSON master race 😄

[agile marlin]

Would be good to have a ‘collect all’ resources button.

Clicking every single collector individually is just not required. Haven’t seen this since the Command and conquer 1 era 😅

Maybe have a toggle button for those that like it and those that don’t?

[viral star]

so been mostly busy trading. Does anyone know what level of effort it will take to get these maxed out for blueprints and if there is still time?

I probably can do 15 min twice a day, but it's slow rn and not sure it's worth the effort

[bitter phoenix]

Lvl 300-400 for t1 should be it

Roughly

4 weeks playing pretty often every day

I did 8 plots in 4-5 weeks

[viral star]

how many scanners, and material labs did you get up to?

[bitter phoenix]

3-4 scanners per plot and about 7 mat labs each. Plus at least one databank

Lv 7 nexus and lv 6 engineering and element extractors and converters

I’m not the most efficient or technical.

[viral star]

okay ty ty

[bitter phoenix]

No problem. Hope it helps

[radiant sky]

depends what you mean with "worth the effort"
If you play, you get a "feeling" for your plots and learn where to place buildings and when, so you most likely do a good start in open beta.
You also get 15 BP, which are worthless because most plots will mint them, and because almost nobody will create a skin out of them because no vfx. Afaik you need stage 1 in order to be able to find stage 2 blueprints, and blueprints are on bonding curve as illuvials are which means if you don't mint them in s1 you most likely won't find them in open beta so you also can't find s2 and s3.

[fierce fern]

Has someone done calculations for the differnce of the Land plots.

Lets say how much more should like a Tier 2 more worth with 3 different fuels then one with only the same?

[radiant sky]

so if you don't care about those BP lines, or don't wana build up a BP factory plot in open beta, because you want fuel it's definetly not worth the effort.
If you wana build up a plot for a blueprint factory, you almost get forced to mint those but not for their value, for the value of s2/3 blueprints of them.

[radiant sky]

almost nothing.
you just get a small advantage in the very early game. And just very small total fuel output decrease in the very late game.
But this can change obviously with possible incoming changes in the future.

[fierce fern]

I was just wondering cause 2 days ago someone bought a Tier 2 for 0,78 ETH.
I thought also that it was a bit over prized. But you dont find cheaper ones.

The hole price Situation is so interesting.
With Tier 4 dropping more and more.

[radiant sky]

It's more the layout which can make the difference.
I guess the silv2 flippers realize more and more that they can't sell their land, and landlords realize more and more that IZ doesn't produce all the fuel more like 5% of the fuel supply.
The thing with IB selling skins, even in more variety.
Then there is the delay thing.
Literally no reason for prices to rise, and if they don't rise, they fall...

[viral star]

dope good info - ty

Wanna keep options open so I'll crank it out

[celest narwhal]

wait a second...150+? are you saing that we can find the BP of T0 illuvial too?

or just the biodata?

[spring mist]

T0 will be limited to biodata only, there won't be any BP for them, but that doesn't mean they'll be useless in Zero, as the statues will boost chances to find more biodata and BP of the same classes 🙂

[celest narwhal]

Yes I love fire atippo. I would love to keep it’s hologram statue Tks a lot

[radiant sky]

Also no facts for t0?

[fair temple]

Classes instead of affinity? 👀

[radiant sky]

Guess he just mixed it up... or he didn't? 👀

[fair temple]

Affinities is based on region so adding this to the mix... 👀

[spring mist]

I might have said too much 😄

[radiant sky]

One could argue you said too less 😏

[radiant sky]

Cats out of the bag...leak it 😁

[spring mist]

||both are impacted and then some more 👀 ||

[vivid cipher]

@ Aaron

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-telling-im-snitch-trouble-you-in-gif-13657662

[spring mist]

hahaha, in fact it's more Johnny who will have answers here 😄

that's something he thought of

[celest narwhal]

It make sense.

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-ribbon-rope-mouth-gif-3791433

[empty path]

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-batman-very-interesting-thinking-gif-16421084

[celest narwhal]

I don’t know if it’s what @spring mist is saying but for instance you can make a “rogue” kinda armor more possible so you can apply to your favorite armor… something like that?

If you use a statue of a rogue T0

Bc (if I don’t remember wrong) the skins can be applied only on the same T, same S and same tipe kinda armor

For this reason they are so much

[radiant sky]

i feel you are on the wrong track, even do i don't fully understand what you are saying/asking.

• Skins created out of BP's + other materials are for Ranger and drone only.
• If you display an Illuvial on your statue in IZ, the chances of finding Biodata of the same affinity (+class now and more) as the displayed illuvial gets increased

[lofty bramble]

Is there any thoughts on having tier 0 blueprints in the future for tier 0 skins? So people playing on free plots have something to work towards still to "try it out" like our stage 0 runs in overworld

[celest narwhal]

the BP are for making cosmetic skin, the base armor is the one crafted in the owerworld, then you can "applied" the skin over the armor. in this moment in the closed beta there are different skin you can apply over your armor whithout restriction so you can have different looks. BUT when we will be in open beta this won't be possible anymore. the reason why exixt different Tiers and different classes for the eastetic skin is BC they can only be applied on the same kinde of base armor. from this you can undestand how many combination you can have (so the 10.000+ it's realistic)

so the ranphyre skin easteic with rogue classes can't be applyed on the bulk class armor base, but you need to craft the same kind for put it on.

[young hill]

how can you get more builders?

[radiant sky]

but discussion was about statue and droprates, not that the skin will look different because you have an illuvial displayed on your statue. That would be a totally new feature.

[celest narwhal]

The skin will look the same but the classes make it usable on specific armor.

[radiant sky]

ah i see.
hope that won't get implemated... imagine you were the lucky guy pulling a ramphire BP, but for an armor the minority is using so you barely sell any skins.

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

[celest narwhal]

Definitely

[vivid cipher]

At this time it is not possible

[brave remnant]

Any update yet on when we can mint our discovered armor in Ilv 0?

[empty path]

No

[dry mango]

The minting window has not started yet; when a start date is available, it will be announced in #📣〕announcements

[brave remnant]

Right on. Ill keep checking in! I’m terrified I’ll miss it.

[icy thicket]

Just started playing 3 tier 1s and 3 tier 2s last week... getting some good screen time on them 😆
Less time daily is required as the lands progress (less claims, and into daily activities such as fuel claim, converting and BPs/Biodata)

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-yikes-gif-15532766

[dry mango]

Thank you, Vana, I missed that information👀

[timber glacier]

No problem.
Also, short in that context could still mean like 2 weeks.

[radiant sky]

Most likely below 2 weeks.
Think about t4

[gentle grove]

I just want minting to open

[blazing ferry]

Can you buy S1/S2 blueprints on the market to research for S3 faster then? If you have multiple land plots on one wallet, do they help each other progress in this way too?

[radiant sky]

i don't know how this exactly works.
if i remember right you store the Blueprint in a databank, that would imply that the plot where the BP is stored is eligible to find the s2 and s3.

But i also heared people talking about buying BP and producing skins without having IZ-Landplot.

Maybe @spring mist can tell how all the BP handling exactly are going to work.

[celest narwhal]

You only need BP for making skin, and making skin will be inside the OW. So yes, you don’t need a land for making skins.

[radiant sky]

you need BP + illuvial + material + fuel at least to create a skin, where everything except the BP gets consumed during the forging process... as far as i know

[celest narwhal]

This is correct.

What I meant is that you don’t need land for making skins. But I explain wrong.

[radiant sky]

yea maybe thats all, and you only need the BP stored in databank to be able to get the higher stages in IZ.
If i remember right, johnny mentioned it somewhere in the past, but am too lazy to look it up now 😄
thats why i pinged julien 🙃

[rotund reef]

If BPs are classified as NFTs, where will they be held? MM? Silly question maybe, but curious.

[radiant sky]

yea i guess so... like illuvitars

and wapons, armor and other nfts...

[rotund reef]

Aren't those things held on IMX exclusively? I never use MM for NFTs, so I wouldn't even know where to look.

[radiant sky]

afaik they are stored on MM but you can't see them directly in MM, so you can just see them on Illuvidex or IMX or whatever when your wallet is connected. But i could be wrong.

[rotund reef]

Yeah, I would like some clarity on this if anyone knows. Asked a similar question in General forum. If I can get everything off of MM before this thing really gets going, I would be really happy. Seems like that's where all hacking and draining stems from, and if this game gets big, we're all going to be huge targets.

[radiant sky]

#❓❗〕community-help

[radiant sky]

thats probably because its the most used wallet
i could say the same about Open sea 😄

[rotund reef]

Yeah, that whole ecosystem is a disaster I'd like to avoid.

[radiant sky]

with ecosystem you talking about Blockchain?

[rotund reef]

The MM/Opensea "We're making too much money rn to worry about security" ecosystem.

[radiant sky]

what would you choose over MM?

[rotund reef]

I could be dreaming it all up, but if IMX could find a way to handle all of this in-house with their own wallet, that would be ideal. The talk about the IMX passport got me thinking about it.

I'm not a dev, so don't ask me how it would work.

[radiant sky]

me neither.
give feedback in #1020759212172775464 or #❓❓〕support to get maybe knowledgable people involved so you get answers.

or ask in #❓❗〕community-help

[cedar hamlet]

Rabby, Frame

[harsh acorn]

Unity charging for installs is a kick to the nuts. Hopefully the team can port to Unreal eventually. #F*** Unity

[mortal smelt]

from my understanding would be connected to your email, but I could be wrong

[amber atlas]

Hi folks,

as many of you are probably aware Unity announced a new pricing model which is, to be blunt, pretty darn screwed up: https://blog.unity.com/news/plan-pricing-and-packaging-updates

Although we don't see this model having any notable effect on Illuvium Zero for users who have purchased Land Plot NFTs, we may need to change some aspects of the planned free-to-play version of the game.

Before we make any kind of decision we need to get a clear view of the rules, wait for Unity to respond to the massive backlash, and then do our own detailed analysis.

Either way its a shitty day for the game dev community.

[rotund reef]

Hopefully something like this doesn't torpedo the overall game release, and maybe just sucks for the f2p people who may have to wait a bit longer.

[vivid cipher]

Looks like fees are only paid by the big dog games.

That’s the spirit

[amber atlas]

No it kills the small studios. If you have a studio of 3-4 people you need to make about 200k to survive.

Basically go out on your own, build your dream game, and if it succeeds, but is not a massive blockbuster, you go hungry.

But worse, it applies to games that were made and released BEFORE these changes.

If you are running a typical small, but modestly successful mobile game, maybe sayt 50c LTV per user. Unity just 20c of that. Thats the difference between survivng and not.

It is really crazy, but I guess too off topic to drill deeply in to here.

[trail forge]

Thats insane that it is being applied retroactively

[amber atlas]

To be clear, its not pay for users you have already gotten, its new users for a released game. But still insane.

[harsh acorn]

Im sure it’s no easy feat but slowing making a Unity wrapper for Unreal for the F2P players may be possible but require some serious dev time

[vivid cipher]

Ah. I know nothing about game dev. But this makes sense. Thanks for the reading

[amber atlas]

Unless its a WebGl game and they clear their cache, then they are a new user. Even more insanity.

Sorry I'll stop talking on this now, maybe we can talk about it in off topic thread.

I've been using Unity since 2009, OG forum member since 2010, this really hurts 😦

[harsh acorn]

Yeah it’s awful they are doing this. Hopefully they reconsider. Porting to Unreal for F2P may be a forced reality or charge for items in game to recoup costs

[vivid cipher]

Alright Johnny I’ll share your message in #1023650034593570917 and further sharing could definitely be done there

[rotund reef]

I follow a couple of Web3 projects which are all Unity (and some have small teams), and no chatter just yet over there. Hope they're okay.

[true sequoia]

so we use this firm's software to load it on our computers? And now you will have to pay a fee to add users? Is this for all Illuvium games?

[vivid cipher]

Just illuvium zero.

[rotund reef]

And just the mobile version, no?

[vivid cipher]

I think it is all built on unity.

[amber atlas]

Unity is the game Engine used for Illuvium Zero (across all platforms). Unreal is the game engine used for Arena and Overworld.

The new pricing model for Unity is particularly problematic for small to medium sized developers, but it may have some impact on us with regards to our free to play model for Zero. Once the dust settles and we know exactly what the model will look like, we will analyse the details, talk to Unity, and provide details to the community.

[severe sparrow]

Can anyone point me to videos that show the best layout for optimum fuel production

[timber glacier]

the best layout depends on the position of the mines you have on the land, so it's different from one plot to another

[severe sparrow]

I think there are probably some general principles which work well though?

Especially when you have relatively few on a tier 1

[timber glacier]

Yes, there's 2 general approaches that seem about equal in production at this time.
However it might change a little depending on how some mechanics change once we move on to beta, so what's optimal right now might not remain so.

But in any case, for a T1 you only have the 1 fuel mine, which you should get to 150% efficiency. Then you have the option of either using a lot of converters at 150% to maximize active conversion output, or a lot of converters on 50% and just collecting passive output.
For higher tiers, the tier bonus favors using high % efficiency buildings as they will give you more on higher levels.

[atomic nexus]

Is blueprints withdrawl available?

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[celest wagon]

@radiant sky you explained well !!

[radiant sky]

I'm for a free market, but i can see why people can't sleep at night because of it...
But this IIP... it's over regulated imo.

• Manual adjustements: Needed in early phase after open beta launch. No way anyone could get that on point the first time.
• Guardrail: Yea, since there is so much fear put a guard rail somewhere, even if i think it won't be needed.
• Automated short term adjustements: As soon as that is implemented, there is no need to manipulate whatsoever, whether through manual adjustements, nor through landsale nor with a guardrail. This system basically controls the price and volatility.
• Landsale change: They probably realized there is no need to do another landsale, because there's an automated system in place, so they wana make sure they can sell all the Land (fast). Probably also why they put it in the same IIP.

Curious how the iccp turns out where they fix all those mechanics with numbers.

[timber glacier]

The top half of that picture looks completely inaccurate to me...

[timber glacier]

Real life example:
I go to my local grocery store to buy food.
Whenever there's a shortage of a certain foodstuff what do they do?
They impose a limit on how much each customer can buy to ensure as many customers as possible can get the product at a reasonable price, and it prevents the price from increasing to absurd levels.

Sounds very much like a guardrail to me. In a free market economy. Just saying.

[ocean haven]

thats what happend where you from under covid? where i live all food price increased

[timber glacier]

Yes, but not just during covid.
It's the general approach stores have around here whenever there's a shortage. Be it epidemics or just drops in supply due to poor harvests, or power outages at production facilities, floods delaying transports etc.

[ocean haven]

impressive prices didn't increase

[trail forge]

Different things happened with different products in different places

[timber glacier]

well, they went up a little, but nowhere near as much in other places around the world

[trail forge]

Most of our items just had price increases but some had limits on them

[timber glacier]

Yes, we had a bit of an electricity crisis last year and prices went up like 400%, so it doesn't apply to every product

That said, I'd prefer some sort of guardrail to prevent price spikes like that

[trail forge]

I know some places have caps on how much they can charge per energy

To avoid situations like that

[ocean haven]

we could use that where i live, its so bad sometimes

[trail forge]

Since in extreme weather conditions electricity can save lives

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bicycle-generator-generator-gif-11373403

living in scandinavia? @timber glacier

[timber glacier]

Yes, the point here being. Trade restrictions isn't always a bad thing. If you implement them correctly and for the right reasons.
That's one thing I feel has been lacking in the proposals made. The motivation behind adding the restrictions isn't always clear or properly explained.

[timber glacier]

Good guess

[ocean haven]

i do 🙂

[radiant sky]

your experience sounds very social.
where i live and for example food is scarce, i could walk into the local bakery and buy everything left, and he would gladly sell it to me and call it a day.

[timber glacier]

well, I suppose we're very community-focused around here

[radiant sky]

yea, heared from that.
should be like that everywhere

[timber glacier]

it's quite a contrast from the every-man-for-himself mentality you see in some places

[ocean haven]

we had 0 limit's, prices just went up a lot, but people can afford it

[timber glacier]

just out of curiosity, has the prices gone back down yet?

[radiant sky]

they have to make some cuts elsewhere i gues.

[ocean haven]

mostly no, some went up like 300% has come down a lot, but dont think they will every get back to where they was

[radiant sky]

probably not... golden opportunity for them.

[timber glacier]

think the worst we saw on foods was like +10-20% increase, and they're mostly back to what they were before

[ocean haven]

most people get paid well, since we have free education, but i think if the rates keep rising some poeple will start to get into trouble

specially first time home buyers

[radiant sky]

some prices rose on average arround 40%, still the same.
restaurants charged more food +25% drinks +10-30% depending what, because they had to close for a period of time during corona. It's just in the beginning they said, to pay bills....
Prices never went back 😄 they just enjoy more money inflow now

[timber glacier]

correction, they were up about 35% on average, and now back to about 10% above what they were previously

still nothing like a 300% increase...

[timber glacier]

Ah, the new "normal", eh?

[radiant sky]

yep, exactly

[ocean haven]

the 300% was on a few specific items, overall im not sure, but 40% is likely not to faar off

[glass valley]

Hey, is there a list of production rates for Fuel? I.e. 1 solon per day etc. Thanks

[timber glacier]

Base rates (T1) are 1/2/4/7/10/15 for extractors at 100% (lvls 1-6) per 24h
This can be improved to 150% efficiency, and reduced to about 17h with paths

For converters it's just 1:1 with 1 fuel per level. So 6:6 at level 6 per 24h.
Again, can be improved to 150% efficiency, and reduced time to produce to about 17h.
Net profit would be 1 for levels 1-2, 2 for levels 3-4, and 3 for levels 5-6 at 150%.

There's also passive gain from converters which give 1 per 48h for lv1-2, 2 per 48h for lv3, 1 per 24h for lv4, 2 per 24h for lv5 and 3 per 24h for lv6.
This can also be boosted to 150% efficiency, but the time to produce can not be lowered.

Higher tiers also get amounts boosted by their tier bonus.
T2 +33%
T3 +100%
T4 +300%

[glass valley]

Thanks for this. Do you guys have a central page for all this information? I had a look at the fan wiki but I couldn't see it. Just makes it easier for game nerds to get a better feel for the game and work out a strategy in the future.

[timber glacier]

I don't know if there's one that has all information in one place yet.
We have plenty of infographics that detail specific topics, and there are a few sites like illuvihub and illuvialmaster that has a good deal of info on various things.

[radiant sky]

havent seen it yet on a community page

[glass valley]

I'll check those out. Thanks again.

[radiant sky]

in case you are too lazy to calculate

[sudden zinc]

GM! Can this come when I am at another city and connected with another IP? Thanks! 🙏

Same Computer only in another city at the moment... I only closed Zero via x not logged out.. Thanks!

[ruby ore]

Thank you for this important information. I'll keep it in mind💯

@timber glacier Sorry. I don't know if you have already given your opinion but what lands would you recommend. What do you see the most potential for?

[timber glacier]

Depends a little on what you're aiming for.
For Fuel I'd probably aim for T3 or T4, just because of the boost from the Tier bonus and the extra fuel mines.
For Blueprints I'd go for T2 or T1, preferrably one where the mines are close together so there's a lot of open space for Scanners.
Of course, it also depends on what you can afford.

[rotund reef]

I've also done a video on this if you go look at my channel, it's the most recent one.

[ruby ore]

Let's say I want to dedicate myself only to plans. Example: with 5 thousand dollars, what would you buy? Only tier1 or tier2 or combined?

[ruby ore]

Can you send me the link or name of the channel?

[rotund reef]

Metaverse News 1. Link should be in bio.

[full helm]

Is there s date for the blueprint mints ?

[timber glacier]

Not yet

[timber glacier]

Hard to say. T1s are slightly less efficient in that they produce less resources for scanning/researching, so you can't fit as many scanners and labs as you can on a T2.
However, they are cheaper. So just getting T1s will probably (once maxed out) give you more chances at finding blueprints than just having T2s. Assuming you have the time to play more plots. T1s will be slower to build up to the point where you can search for higher tier prints.

So it really depends how much time you have and is willing to invest, and how fast you want to see results.

There's also the upcoming features of transferring resources between plots and Megacities that could be used to speed up building. So it might even be an idea to get one higher tier plot to just produce fuel/elements to transfer to other plots. Or to get several plots next to each other (2x2 or 3x3 squares) to take advantage of the Megacity function to speed up plot development.

Also, as Metaverse points out in his video, the plot layouts are kinda important. More so than the fuel/element types on the land. At least when going for blueprints.

[radiant sky]

Make sure to always logg Off properly before logging in on an other device.
Contact #❓❓〕support

[analog inlet]

@whole spear can you please ping the appropriate council thank you.

For those that are new I have been around a long time . I don't participate as much as i did to to my disgruntlement with the a lot of the community and have not Linked my wallet so cannot respond in some channels but I do want to say if you look at the VOTE i have voted no- to the "exclusive battle board" simply on principle below

VVIMOVV

Land owners have always had a sense of entitlement that because they owned "land " that makes then "entitled " to certain things things I have seen over time ( voice in governance that equals staker simply for owning land , these battle boards and others ) which I find irritating

**What Land is : **
A MINI GAME >> a Companion >> A bonus for 100 000 people who want to have fun on a mobile device with an *added bonus of 5% fuel related revenue That is it !!!

Somthing similar to Star trek online " lifetime membership" you pay a flat fee-- then you get 500 paid currency per month till the game goes offline

Same thing land owners did "paid a flat fee for entry" you play the game then get 5% of a fuel related revenue for the life of the DAO
this is all land owners should expect or are entitled to.

What land is not :

official investment . WHY? It is not Part of the tokenomics - ILV staking is the ONLY official form of investment and governance .Staking Simply based on the 95% > 5% is best option for ROI as I explain below

Its not DESIGNED as a vehicle for ROI. >>> If you bought LAND in the hopes of making money you did so by your own choice not because it was "designed that way"

Extra voice or governance or anything more that was set out in official documentation.

**But but the price !!! ** --- if you walk into a store and they are selling apples for $50 each and you buy one are you going to then turn around AFTER you buy it an complain to the store owner that they need to give you extra stuff because apples are not worth $50

Or are you going to complaint to the star trek devs that 500 currency is not enough anymore because of in game inflation?

You all bought what you bought willingly -- you need to accept the terms of what you bought. ---like everything else its a gamble you may win or you may lose you need to accept that

** Please stop with all the " landowners should get this ...because "whatever whine here" ** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

because you don't . Again - a land gets you a game some Blueprints and 5% fuel related revenue --- regardless it if that turns out to be "enough" that's it that is all you are "entitled" to

Here are some of my posts form " back in the day" if you a new i hope you find them informative.

ALL BELOW IMO NFA DYOR
**Comparison **
#💬〕general message

Land owner revenue explanation
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Blue Prints
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[cyan bone]

A response of mine in some Council discussions yesterday

Simply put, the team are laser focused on delivering the existing scope of work

[mortal smelt]

But I do agree with you on certain points so there’s that

[analog inlet]

ill retract my meme then - LOL

[mortal smelt]

JS it was a long read 😂

[analog inlet]

com'on its my trade mark

[mortal smelt]

It’s ok @analog inlet sometimes jokes can clear the air, you write well.

[analog inlet]

I want you to know I still hold the team in the highest respect. I may not be around alot but i am still 100% behind the Admins and The entire deveoplment team

[mortal smelt]

Nothing but love ser

[wispy prism]

I agree with the premise seems like asking a lot. Personally I'm not concerned. This is my fantasy land away from my world. I've always wanted to beta test something, In ten years I want to say 'I remember such and such'
Yet I do appreciate others may not have this feeling.
I'm happy for it to go to the next level.
People are going to feel and want all sorts of things on this incredible journey.

I wish you could post in the actual channel.

[analog inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-gif-25595761

[wispy prism]

Splendor also doesn't want an extra load on the team. I actually thought it was well thought out in that regard.

[analog inlet]

i may make a burner meta and put the min amount of ilv in it just need to find out whatthe min is.

[wispy prism]

I think it's just one. Personally I'd like it to be none, in regards to talking about it. Yes if you want to vote.

[vivid cipher]

1 ILV

[ocean haven]

its to funny some people dont understand fundamentals of web3 land

[vapid quartz]

To mint Blueprints we need a Zero Point Transducer (ZPT). ZPT is level 1-3. When will we know what the level requirement must be to mint the Blueprints?

[pearl dagger]

Johnny mentioned that it will likely be 1 and I am inclined to believe that is going to be the case

[cerulean steppe]

Like your response. Especially the "will play such a critical part in the ecosystem".

That's the main reason I bought land.

I want all games to flourish, but I love caring for my lands and producing output, that I can then sell to other games, and in return buy assets from them.

A city builder with a real economy.

[cyan bone]

I feel the same, Johnny feels the same, many Land Holders in the team also

[rotund reef]

Land IS an investment in several ways, and without early investors who buy your NFTs before launch, you don't have a game, so while you don't HAVE to give them any special benefits, the only other main option would have been to go the VC route, and they demand the moon and the stars (which you would have to give them).

[trail forge]

Land owners are still getting the benefits that they knew about when purchasing

[rotund reef]

We are the kinder, cuddly-er version of VCs. A cookie every now and then would be kind and remembered.

[timber glacier]

To be fair, early investors in Beyond cards knew what they were looking like, yet they motioned for Alpha Stamps to give their early inventments a more exclusive look. Some would argue that this was to improve the value of the Alpha cards. Yet that one passed and everyone seems to be okay with it.

So why the negativity against what is essentially a limited edition "Thank you note" for landholders?

A battleboard skin won't improve how much the land makes, or the value of the plot.
It's merely a thing that early supporters of the project can show off and say "I was there when it started".
Why shouldn't Landowners be entitled to that when Beyond investors have already been granted exactly that, albeit in a different form with the Alpha Stamps?

[trail forge]

There's a big difference in adding in a visual cue on an already existing asset to distinguish between NFTs and creating an entirely new NFT to just give away because landowners are crying

[timber glacier]

Yes, you stand to manipulate the value of the modified assets. Which is worse in my opinion.

[trail forge]

It's not manipulating the value at all. The asset just becomes more clear what it is.

[rotund reef]

I don't want to go too far down this route, but I do remember being led to believe before the dutch auction that we were going to be able to get a jump on minting BPs very soon after. If you would have told me there were only going to be 15 for the first holders, and everyone was going to get a chance to mint them, and not for another year, I probably would have just waited. My strategy has always been to wait and buy on secondary when I have more information at hand, but I jumped early because I thought this was different.

[trail forge]

And ILV holders were told the game was coming out in 2021. Should they get something as well?

[rotund reef]

Fair question, so let's take the time part out of it. 15 BPs that likely won't sell for much wouldn't have been a great lure either.

[trail forge]

Nobody told you that the 15 blueprints would be valuable

It's a bonus

[timber glacier]

I think people are overlooking one thing that's very important:
ILV Staking is fully functional and operating as intended.
Beyond is released and mostly functional (pretty sure there's still leaderboard issues)
Zero isn't released.

Had Zero been released already, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. Since then there would be earning from fuel/blueprints (And also Overworld/Arena).

I think this mostly stems from Beyond being released far too early compared to the other games, and that makes it seem like investing in Beyond was the better route to go.

[rotund reef]

I know, but a lot of people thought it was going to be different and bought on that premise, right or wrong. I don't like the "well you should have known better" defense, communicate this more clearly next time maybe. I take blame, it is an investment after all, but I still think I have a right to be a bit salty about it. And I wasn't the only one.

[trail forge]

I agree Beyond released too early but can't change that now.
Zero hasn't officially launched but the functions of it will be available upon launch.

[trail forge]

I agree that you have every right to complain and get your voice heard. But like you said it was your choice to invest and things happen.
Proposal has the required upvotes and will go to the councils to vote on

[rotund reef]

There's a proposal? I haven't been around most of the day.

[timber glacier]

Yes, and once it's released and fully functional, Landowners will be happier.

They just aren't right now (apparently). And I can understand why.

[trail forge]

I'm not happy the games delayed either. What do I get?

[timber glacier]

Are they entitled to what they're asking for?
Maybe not.

Are they entitled to asking for what they're asking?
Yes.

Then it's up to the Councils and team to manage this request in a proper way.

[trail forge]

Yup I agree

[radiant sky]

It would have been a Bonus if not many are going for it.
The more are going for the 15 BP's the more of an enforcement it is to get them and the less value they have. Sounds weird, but it is what it is 🙃

[timber glacier]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1151354055059308577

[rotund reef]

Appreciate that, thanks.

[timid basin]

long time no see solar old friend

appreciate u bringing forward ur view on this, u make some good points

probably the only point I might disagree on is that I do think Land can be seen as an investment as it does have ROI built in

but completely agree w the sentiment that Land will be up and running soon once launch comes and it will receive the 5% of Fuel revdis always promised...

[timid basin]

RevDis for ILV stakers is literally on pause currently until either game launches or the $5mil target for the safety pool is reached (whichever comes first)

[timid basin]

no disagreement there

[gloomy quarry]

Yes, they should aswell

Things like that only add cool points to the project, there is no downside to it

[radiant sky]

you could definetly discuss about that, but it's not the same.
We could take away all staking rewards and start a discussion giving them a skin instead...

[timber glacier]

I may not be entierly up to speed on the functionality of staking. But isn't that a direct result of the safety pool being voted through, so it would still fall under the header "operating as intended", would it not?

[gloomy quarry]

All staking rewards = 1 skin?

[radiant sky]

sounds silly, right? 😂

[valid saffron]

@high sleet on you tube Rn very cool

[gloomy quarry]

I don't think it's that deep, nor did I think something like this will create so much controversy. I won't be mad if a similar reward is given to stakers too

[radiant sky]

i'm just amused about the comparisons people make to justify their voting.

[gloomy quarry]

Yeah true

[radiant sky]

the whole discussions in this IIP's goes from amusement, to "lol, really", to shocking way of thinking.
Especially comments from some councilmembers.

[gloomy quarry]

That part was mind boggling, some people wanna prove they are right desperately

[high sleet]

Hahahaha thats what I do 😛

[indigo coral]

why do people say/refer with some councilmembers instead of using names?
are you afraid your comments would violate discord rules if you used names?

[radiant sky]

absolutely not.
But if i call out names, i should have implemented screenshots and comment why i think what i think and it would have bloated up in a very very big comment, and i was short on time.

[high sleet]

Love this haha, I've been there

[radiant sky]

but yea, probably shouldn't have wrote that "especially... " part

[high sleet]

Honestly I love the battle board skins so that's fun and all. And I don't see the harm in this proposal big picture. But I'm not really majorly for or against. That being said I understand why the landowners want this.

For me personally I was wrong and initially assumed these 15 blueprints were exclusive to the alpha. That was my mistake and I will have to take responsibility for it. But if enough people feel that way then there's a proposal. Its just a part of the DAO system

[indigo coral]

I mean even then you can write and vent etc.
Just in the end dividing comments, that just get emotional reaction as follow ups, as some feel insulted and some others emboldened to start making comments picking on others instead of picking on the topic

this whole culture of picking on people instead of the arguments simply bothers me and many others who don´t even wanna speak anymore, because they are afraid of getting picked on next

[timid basin]

I mean... IZ is also technically operating as intended as it is currently intended to be LIVE in a private beta capacity open only to land owners with the possibility to earn blueprints, that is both intended and functional.

[timid basin]

On this point I will always agree

[civic cave]

no chance of 50% per blueprint?

[radiant sky]

Wasn't picking on people, was more of an outlining that i'm especially surprised reading stuff like that from council members.
That some random dude writing non facts based Stuff, and make weird comparisons to parts of other Games etc which has absolutely nothing to do with the iip etc. I can totally understand...
But from a council member i expect more, and i think it's legit to expect more.

[indigo coral]

This isn´t the point I was getting at, with no quote or name, many don´t know what you even refer to
I don´t know tbh even

so at least refer to the argument or point or name instead of saying yeah that insert person of a group was ..., so people can have context, otherwise it sounds like a mean comment with nothing backing it

[radiant sky]

Which bring's us back to

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[indigo coral]

fair enough, I didn´t mean to adress only you, more a general statement and messages from you and nasty are visible above

[radiant sky]

As soon as i'm home i intended anyways to elaborate on that. But probably gona do it in #1020759212172775464

[radiant sky]

I get that, all good

[iron veldt]

#1117518574479736842 message
very good idea’s 💡 @radiant sky

You are my personal IZ - 🦸🏻‍♂️

Converter passive has to be removed! Imo! Is there a chance that Councils can talk about this topic?

[timber glacier]

The functionality of staking is that you can invest your money into ILV, and lock it in the staking pool, then get rewards once it's been staked for a specific timeframe. It got paused in order to fill the safety pool, or until the games launch and more revenue comes in.

The functionality of Illuvium Zero is that you buy a land plot, play the game, produce fuel and sell or find blueprints and either sell those or craft skins and sell those.
Neither the fuel selling or blueprint minting is live yet, i.e. not functional.
The current version of the game isn't using the Beta framework, something the team has stated in their updates, so it's in fact not operating as intended seen from the perspective of what the game is supposed to be.

Yes, the Alpha is functioning as intended at this time, but as a game it's not fully functional. So making this comparison isn't even accurate.

[timid basin]

The functionality of fuel was to begin at OB launch, it wasnt intended to have any functionality prior to OB launch beyond beta testing and the 15 blueprints which are all currently in action...

[timber glacier]

Well, I lost track of what you're trying to say so...

[analog inlet]

Thanks for your comment,

Yes technically it has a built in ROI but its more of a "bonus" than a "income" IMO

The ROI I was meaning that in terms of making a quicker ROI and decent profit in the future you don't need the game to be live to know that ILV staking will completely out perform Land on a number of factors I outlaid in my additional documentation but even just the difference between **95% > 5% --- that alone should be telling **.

Simple math will tell you that If there is 100 things I always get get 95 you will always get 5 I will always have more things than you

Also jsut for clarity for new people we should be using the correct terminology according to Aaron the payout from land is not "revdis" its simply a ETH payout .

[timid basin]

its certainly more of a bonus than income, likely for legal purposes at least...

[analog inlet]

🤨

[analog inlet]

"legal reasons" the one constant in almost anything lol

[timber glacier]

Re-read the discussion and just noticed you're contradicting yourself, hence my confusion.

You're right that fuel was never intended to have functionality before open beta.
But saying that IZ is fully operational and functional, when the fuel system that isn't operational is a core functionality of the game is just wrong.

[radiant sky]

🤨

[timid basin]

IZ is on track, nothing is going in a particularly unexpected way in its progress and its functionality was never supposed to be prior to OB

I'm not arguing that its live and operational in its final form

but it is operating in a beta form with 15 blueprints live, which is where its supposed to be until OB essentially...

I'm not sure what were even arguing over exactly anymore😅

[timber glacier]

Yeah, it wen't a bit off topic apparently

[analog inlet]

Your the one making cryptic comments.
If you have an issue with an example i made quote a specific sentence then state your issue with it and your reasoning why.
Simple process right?

[radiant sky]

I'm a bit dissapointed, because i thought we Start a starring Challenge. 😔

You can read up the whole conversation i has with Viper and i'm sure it's gona make some more Sense.
If not... shit happens, not gona start it again with you

I can do that if you like, but it's gona end up in the old discussions between me and you... i don't See any point in doing that

[gloomy quarry]

That convo with viper was pretty pointless too, considering he often does the same thing, even in his opening statement didn't clarify who he's talking about.

Not adding names is usually to avoid unnecessary drama, whoever read those 2 proposals knows who we were talking about.

Other than that I agree with his point, but people are getting more sensitive by the day, sometimes it feels like walking on egg shells when typing something, not to offend someone. Ofc I'd like that to change but it is what it is

[radiant sky]

I think the point he was trying to Make is to have a rational discussion about the specific topic based on facts, rather than an emotional one... which i fully support

[true sequoia]

and where are we exactly with the safety pool???? Wave 2 did it's job...love an update from someone "official"

[timber glacier]

Different people are more or less sensitive than others, nothing you can do about that.

However, if you feel that something you're about to say could be offending someone, it probably will. And you really should consider if it should be phrased differently or if it's really worth saying at all.

[gloomy quarry]

Yes I support it too but good luck implementing it

[gloomy quarry]

Yes but this easily spirals out of control, nowadays it's hard to type anything without someone getting offended. Even harmless comments offend someone and they start being defensive. It's almost impossible to have any real type of discussion without turning it to drama. I don't like that part, which is the reason I'm not typing much lately.

[iron veldt]

We still have to remember that this is a game about little monsters

[timber glacier]

Yes, I've noticed a similar trend.
Generally speaking it's pretty easy to distinguish if someone is genuinely interested in the discussion or just trolling or flaming, but maybe that's just me.

[iron veldt]

every little thing, is gonna be alright

[hoary forge]

Little?

[iron veldt]

i would cuddle it if i could

seems to be fluffy around his wings

[hoary forge]

Don't burn yourself 😜

[timber glacier]

some less littler than others

[pseudo pulsar]

@timber glacier great view alot of s-tuff times are coming lets make illuvium a good safe zone organic community love for the new creations

[timber glacier]

That's a word right? Littler?

[undone phoenix]

No no. It’s more little

Trust me. I’m a native English person speaker

[tulip perch]

Well atleast its safe from me for a few more days still on holiday 😂

[timber glacier]

more little?
shouldn't it be less?

[pseudo pulsar]

@timber glacier Littler is the largest law practice in the world

[timber glacier]

interesting

[pseudo pulsar]

@timber glacier Littler is a legitimate word and can be found in the bigger desk dictionaries. It's still used a bit more in the UK than in North America, and relatively more in my time (the 1960s and '70s) than today.

[timber glacier]

Yeah, I did actually look it up, just to see

[pseudo pulsar]

That's quoted

I speak the same way lol

[timber glacier]

I suppose it's one of those words that aren't used that often

[pseudo pulsar]

Thats a littler tomato 🍅

[timber glacier]

funny how language evolves over time

[mortal smelt]

truth is, IM NOT LEAVING 💯

[rotund forum]

hi. when did it get paused? I still see interest being generated (only look every couple of days though)... so may be just a remainder

[timber glacier]

I don't know, staking is not something I keep good track of

[gilded dust]

Question about the zero 15 blueprints that are suppose to be collected for keeps. We are keeping them? And where can we see them, in the game (zero) only ? Are they like nfts I can see in a wallet?

[radiant sky]

Yes they are nfts.
At the moment you can just see them in Zero, because you haven't minted them yet

[gilded dust]

Thank you for your kind information, many blessings to you

[gray vale]

Do we know what its going to cost yet to mint? like any in game (Zero) costs? or all ILV/Eth?

[mortal smelt]

we are on IMX there are no fees to mint

[vapid quartz]

What level does the Zero Point Transducer need to be to mint the Blueprints?

[timber glacier]

Level 1 for the alpha.

[dim nebula]

any wiki or website for zero strategy?

[clever comet]

if i have level 3?

[fossil galleon]

Should also work - level 1 is the minimum that’s been indicated. Nothing official announced yet though. You’ll be fine if you’re on level 3.

[timber sapphire]

no official dates yet for minting right?

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[timber sapphire]

oke good i havent found them all yet haha

[vivid cipher]

Just a few info sites. Strategy is rather varied and depends on each plot’s unique characteristics.

illuvialmaster
illuvihub

There is even one that does plot mock-ups but I can’t remember what it is

[blazing ferry]

Illuvitect

[mortal mural]

has anyone on mac has trouble installing the game?

[empty path]

Nope

[mortal mural]

“IlluviumZero_Mac_v0.2.1_ProductionBuild_PROD” can’t be opened because Apple cannot check it for malicious software.
this software needs to be updated.

[empty path]

Ooooooh you gotta go to privacy settings

[mortal mural]

thx, gonna play this while i wait to be a zigallionaire

[mortal mural]

is there a reason resource collecting buildings dont automatically mine after collection?

[deep granite]

cant upgrade while you mine, i think its an upgrade window

[blazing ferry]

Every now and then they throw around the idea of automation, which hopefully ties into improving this mechanic #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[nova epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[mortal mural]

i played one day and im feeling carpal tunnel.

its like a clicker game, at least it s a great stress anxiety reliever.

[mortal mural]

it would be great to jsut collect whatever there is and upgrade. that way you dont have to wait until mining its over, but thats just my lazy a$$ talking

[mortal mural]

I can’t stop playing plz send help

https://tenor.com/view/thor-drinks-another-one-coffee-good-gif-14287005

[storm gyro]

anybody know how to solve the issue on mac when trying to open the game it says the file may be malware and to contact the developer?

[vivid cipher]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[mortal mural]

Go to privacy settings

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[pearl dagger]

Has anyone heard how a Nexus might work with 2x2 or 3x3? Supposedly you only need the 1 nexus, but in its current state it only allows up to 200 buildings and only 1 can be built...

[dim nebula]

what is the difference between lv1 and lv3 HOLOGRAPHIC STATUE?

[empty path]

The number

[mortal surge]

and the resources you spent

[vivid cipher]

Not much info on mega cities. The idea is there will be one nexus but 4x or 9x the space to build.

Adds to efficiency that way

My guess on statues is that lvl 1 statues can display tier 1 illuvials’ biodata. And high level statues will be able to display high tier stuff. But that’s me speculating. I don’t remember all of the dev updates in here.

[true sequoia]

so zero now won't launch till next year? yikes

[bitter phoenix]

Any idea when the minting window will be now or the preproduction fuel start up phase?

[radiant sky]

Latest Info is still minting window to be before resets which is right before IZ-public Beta. And preproductuon 4-8 weeks.
But I feel thats gona be debated internally now. Maybe pre production gets increased to 8+ weeks now with the delay of OW and arena

[bitter phoenix]

Hopefully they can clarify when they get a chance. I think your right though. Makes sense.

[radiant sky]

I hope so too. I also Like to be enlighted why ow delay. It's just a talk about pvp and it's instable performance yet.
But i didn't wana push for Info when the Chat was full of disappointed people voicing their Frustration 🙂

[bitter phoenix]

Yes let the dust settle. I’m sure more info will come.

Delays are always frustrating but in the big scheme of things a few months more is not the end of the world if it means that the games are in a better state and internally tested well.

[hollow shoal]

Little sad about the delay, can we see the bug building as compensation? 😉

[timber glacier]

Hopefully the delay means there'll be a longer build-up period for fuel before release

[radiant sky]

Yea, hopefully.
I feel the shortterm build-up Phase was just so short because of IZ not being ready earlier. Which could have changed meanwhile.

[empty path]

Can you stop spamming this in all channels? Just use #👑〕bot-commands pls

[jolly mantle]

When I found out about this project in 2021, I told anyone that would listen about it. Incredible team, empowering tech, and a concise vision. Well since then, we've all eaten a bit of crow on how long it takes to develop a video game. Took a crash course on "How Markets Work". Embraced the reality of token incentives, even.

Yet somehow, throughout all of these learning opportunities, my belief that a groundbreaking video game will be made has only been strengthened. I get more excited each week, with each leak. Delay, de-shmay, don't give a hay. This team seems determined to not rush out an incomplete product, and I couldn't be more thankful. Keep up the hard work.

[fickle ore]

I agree.

Im of the opinion the more giveaways and perks to delight the customers, the better.

It's a game intended to be fun to the players, seems like every single game design choice is always being talked about from the monetary aspect, and is really toxic IMO.

[ocean haven]

100% agree. the players is who is going to drive the game economics, the more we can give back to the players for spending there money in the ILV universe the better.
also think the players is more likely to put money back into the game economic, which we going to need when it goes live.
etc some poeple who get rewards from illuvitars spend it to buy disk next wave and help make the system run.

[frozen sierra]

Exact diamond hands, same feelings as yours.

[rotund reef]

I would fully expect even further delays, simply on the fact that we're at the point in time where (ideally) everything needs to be ready all at the same time, making it 3x as difficult to get all of this orchestrated properly. Or am I wrong about that last part?

[radiant sky]

Agreed.
I mean we basically know just a tiny bit what is happening behind the scenes, but also pb3 and pb4 in the same quarter seems more than just ambitious.

[ruby ore]

What is pre-production?

[vivid cipher]

The idea is that the real launch for #🎮〕illuvium-zero will happen a little while before the other games launch so there’s fuel ready to mint and sell on day 1

[ruby ore]

I totally agree with you😉

[ruby ore]

ahh I understand. It's a great idea💯

[reef jasper]

#Makeprivatebetaskinsexclusivetoprivatebetalandowners

[ruby ore]

I see it as more time to be able to buy more land.🔥

[bitter phoenix]

Zero will need to start fuel production before the over world can start to kick the whole economy into life.

[ruby ore]

You speak the truth friend. I fully agree with you

[ruby ore]

ahh ok thanks👍

[ruby ore]

thanks for that data. I will take them into account💯

[ruby ore]

Will it be okay with one at level 3 or would it be better to have more at level 3?

[ruby ore]

excellent

[rotund reef]

For the gameboard skin, do we just need a lvl 7 Nexus on one land, or does it benefit us to have it on more than one?

[bitter phoenix]

If the proposal passes in its current form then each individual land plot that is developed during the agreed time period that has a nexus lv 7 will qualify for a battle board

[timber glacier]

One should be enough

[ruby ore]

okay thanks

[iron veldt]

Do we already know if the "real launch" will happen with IOS/Android?

[hoary forge]

Plan is to bring public beta to android and iphones, we don't know yet if it's as a WebGl version or on the AppStore.

[iron veldt]

cool, thanks

[radiant sky]

3 councils... not a single downvote 😐

[atomic nexus]

Some rewards for Alfa test ?

[dry mango]

NFTs of the blueprints for those who manage to

[nova epoch]

I wont sleep during that time, although I only have T2's 😛

[molten thorn]

For illuvium 0 can someone explain why they would upgrade the crypton Gate from level 4-5? Only get 3 extra crypton, but now it costs 2M carbon, 1M hydrogen, and 15 Solon??? I must be missing the economics but for a tier 1 land who only had a crypton gate as a mining site it makes no sense to have to pay 15 Solon

[radiant sky]

Is there a reason why a t1 should get it cheaper?

[molten thorn]

No don’t believe so

I don’t think it should be cheaper

But why would someone upgrade from level 4->5

[radiant sky]

because you get more on a daily basis if you upgrade, could be a reasonable reason 🙃

[molten thorn]

At level 4 it costs 0 Solon to harvest 10. At level 5 it would cost 15 Solon to get 13 crypton

I get you get an additional 3 crypton a day, but the cost for that 3 crypton seems like it isn’t worth it to run an extraction

[radiant sky]

sure, but you pay it once and from then on you can get everyday more crypton... you don't have to play for a long time until you got your investement back.

[molten thorn]

OOOOO

Wait I am so so sorry

I thought that 15 solon was the extraction cost not the upgrade cost

My bad, I was having a heart attack of there is no way you can make profit on this

[radiant sky]

happens the best 🙃

[molten thorn]

Ok ok totally worth ignore me thank you!!!

[dark tide]

When we will be able to mint our illuvial zero stuff?

[radiant sky]

After open Beta Launch

[viral star]

anyone have a list of all the nft's we are going to be able to mint?

[radiant sky]

Just the 15 Blueprints in season 1

[viral star]

ahhh okay dope - I had a feeling this was all for this one. ty ty

[dusk fox]

Why my data in zero was reset to lv0?

[viral star]

hopefully you didn't hit the reset button on accident

[dry mango]

If you didn't reset by accident, please send a ticket to support at #❓❓〕support so the team can take a look

[radiant sky]

And always make sure to properly logout when switching devices

[dusk fox]

hmmm, maybe I don't logout when switching devices......so how can I restore my data?

[radiant sky]

Contact #❓❓〕support for restoring data

[worldly flume]

What pb1 means? This means in the first 3 months of 2024 ilv0 will go live?
Like minting the nfts and selling fuel?

[radiant sky]

Minting nfts yes.
Fuel i hope so, but maybe they wait for ow.
This is just me guessing, they haven't shared details to the public launch yet.

[worldly flume]

Ok, and the account will reset, right? All buildings will start at 0?

[radiant sky]

Yes

You can keep the minted blueprints only

[worldly flume]

Ok, great, thanks

[worldly flume]

How am i doing? Started today. Any advice?

[rotund reef]

Looking solid. The path connecting your crypton mine to the Nexus doesn't really do anything, but if you like the way it looks then keep it!

[worldly flume]

Yeah, i did it for aestethics. Are the roads doing anything? I saw in a video about cutting the production time, but didnt see any difference

[worldly flume]

Oh, thanks

[radiant sky]

Paths don't effect passive timers tho. Info is missing in the infographic i think

[maiden wasp]

Still on track for blueprint minting by EOM ish?

[whole spear]

No confirmed date yet, but likely no with the new roadmap in #📣〕announcements

[lavish hawk]

hello guys!!! do we now what building do we have to have in our plots in order to mint the blueprints?? also do we know when is going to be open to mint??
thanks!!!

[timber glacier]

Yes, the Zero Point Transducer.
All we know about when is before the launch of open beta. There will be an announcement when the team decides on a date.

[snow pollen]

Should we build more than 1 or upgrade it? I mean, to make sure we have enough time to mint the 15 blueprints

[radiant sky]

for now, 1x lvl1 should be enough. But this can change

[worldly flume]

To harvest fuel you need to pay resources?

[mortal mural]

whats the max level on buildings?

[timber glacier]

Different for different buildings

[worldly flume]

If i just started do i still have time to find the blueprints?

[cyan bone]

It's worth pushing for yes

[worldly flume]

I saw someone saying eom. That means end of month? I have until end of month to find blueprints?

[polar cosmos]

Im not sure, but minting is after open beta, so we have a lot of time to testing and collect blueprints, yes?

[radiant sky]

Yes, the short time minting window will be End of season 1, which should be before IZ public Beta, which is a short time before OW and arena open Beta, which is according to roadmap q1 2024.

[true sequoia]

make sure to go upvote the proposal for us land owners to get a tradable battleboard

[gentle grove]

All they did was push it back even more odds are it won't even be q1 of 2024

[vestal spear]

How do I do this?

[true sequoia]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1153354386370736239 on iip: and hit the little rocket 🙂

25 up votes they vote on it at the council level

[vestal spear]

i added my rocket!

[long tendon]

Hey, just to clarify this is where the upvotes are counted to 25 or more https://discordapp.com/channels/760344898200666112/1151354055059308577.

If its voting that means it got passed to the council already specifically Community Sub-Council. Theres 4 steps for it to pass technically. 1) Community voting (25 votes) 2) CSC Voting 3) Specialized SC Voting and finally 4) IMC Voting.

[worldly flume]

Is it already decided how the fuel revenue will work? Fixed 5% of fuel sale?

[radiant sky]

afaik it is still 5% of revenue of ingame purchases.

[timber sapphire]

are the servers down? i got logged out of the mobile app

nvm i can log in

[split root]

where

[hardy brook]

Playing IZ on an S23 with a stylus is a dream. No more fat fingering icons 😅

[radiant sky]

sounds like a cheat code 😄

[true sequoia]

Hey, just to clarify this is where the upvotes are counted to 25 or more https://discordapp.com/channels/760344898200666112/1151354055059308577.

If its voting that means it got passed to the council already specifically Community Sub-Council. Theres 4 steps for it to pass technically. 1) Community voting (25 votes) 2) CSC Voting 3) Specialized SC Voting and finally 4) IMC Voting.

[split root]

So currently we still in season one we are@leading up to a minting window for our 15 blueprints. What else can we do between now and end of minting window other than play and enjoy expanding

When do we start building level 7 nexus

When can we start pre mining resources that we can keep and or sell

I liked the other road map part that showed the minting window lol . With the 4 projects things need. To be well layer out for people . Especially the casuals that may only read discord every once a week lol

[mortal mural]

i cant login, it keeps telling me to check my internet connection. Does someony know how to fix this?

[ocean lynx]

same issue, cant login

[nova epoch]

maybe aws problems? League of legends doesnt work either 😛

[mortal mural]

Aws?

[lethal valley]

hi any news about the mint release?
also do higher level ZPTs help instead of level 1?

[radiant sky]

Not really
With Info provided lvl 1 is enough. This can Change obviously.

[lethal valley]

okidoki

[cyan bone]

From the Land-owner Channel

It's actively being worked on by the Security Team 🫡

[lethal valley]

woaaaah ❤️
ok and how long* will the minting period last?

[cyan bone]

This will be confirmed by milord @amber atlas upon his return.

I'll work with Jay & Admins to schedule UAT, Prod deployments as soon as we get the all clear

[lethal valley]

ok ^^

[atomic cove]

what does the efficiency on the marketplace do?

[iron veldt]

So does this mean that we can get up to 15 bps in this phase - and in the next, we will get a battleboard skin for each wallet owning a land + nexus lvl 7?
Or can someone explain it please?

[vivid cipher]

I don’t think it does anything at this point

[atomic cove]

aight thanks 🫡

[vivid cipher]

That’s the possibility of upto 15 blueprints for each land. And now also the battle board skin. But there’s no board skin yet. So it’s really just the promissory note of a board skin in the future.

[true sequoia]

but the board skin will be a nice thank you for our patience

[radiant sky]

So bp minting window is not linked to end of s1 anymore? Or it will come when it's ready and then there is a "downtime" until IZ public Beta Launch?

[cyan bone]

The exact start and end dates of the minting window will need to come from Johnny.

What I can say is the tech is essentially ready to be deployed, pending completion of the Sec Audit.

He's travelling for the next few days, but we spoke earlier this week and he said to push ahead with the delivery.

[radiant sky]

OK. I don't See a reason for pushing it when Next Phase ist not ready... but maybe it is ready? 👀

[cyan bone]

Nup, the guys are busy pushing towards delivering the Open Beta state

[quick elm]

Hey guys, havent been around for while, tried to download Zero from website but it says I'm not eligible. My wallet was connected and I own land.

[lethal valley]

are we wxpecting a minting window in days, weeks, months? 😄 any small hint? 😄

also do you need elements, fuels or ethereum to mint the blueprints?

[hoary forge]

@quick elm Did you connect the wallet with the land on it? If yes, try to log out and log back in. If this is not working please contact #❓❓〕support

[quick elm]

OK, will do later, sadly I have to leave for work rn. I'll try this evening (UK) thanks for the response.

[worldly flume]

I play for 3 days and havent built the illuvium scanner yet 🥲 i don't think i will find any blueprints until the minting

[celest narwhal]

You have 3 months

[sharp elk]

You have plenty of time. Don’t worry.

[worldly flume]

Ok, great, by the discussions here i tought i only have a few more days

[rare stream]

The windows version is downloaded, but the android version is not, how to solve the problem?

[polar cosmos]

I start to collect my blueprints ; )

[compact nebula]

All myBP for a plot mysteriously disspeared

[radiant sky]

contact #❓❓〕support

[compact nebula]

I was trying to find this thanks

[wispy prism]

Hi det0n, for my pixel 7pro I used an APK installer.

Then I used my phone to navigate to the site and I was able to download the package.

[clever comet]

Hello, I don't understand how the land will be divided. How will Tier 1 be divided? With it being divided in my opinion, I think I was "scammed" because I paid $1,600 for land when I could have bought some divided land for a lower price. I want to buy another, but now I don't see the reason. Why pay a high price when I can buy smaller pieces of land? Why create more than 100,000 landowners? The reason I bought it was that there would be a limited number of people who own land, 100,000 people and no more.

[lethal wyvern]

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[clever comet]

exclusivity, opportunity, now everyone can have land? it doesn't seem right to me, in these conditions the price seems too high if the number of owners increases