🎮〕illuvium-zero

[little moon]

Tier 1-5 lands can find any tier of blueprints once the game fully launches. During the alpha the only blueprints that can be found are T1 blueprints.

[thorn salmon]

May I have a stupid question here: how can free players (dont have a land) get blueprints? Buy from landowner?

[radiant sky]

they don't get blueprints

[thorn salmon]

You mean blueprints cannot be traded?

[radiant sky]

yes they can be traded. Maybe i didn't understand what you are aiming for...

[thorn salmon]

If I dont have a land plot, so I cannot scan for blueprints, the only way to have is buying

[little moon]

Yeah if you dont own a land the only way to get blueprints would be to buy one from another player.

[thorn salmon]

Ok got it

[radiant sky]

sure, but why would you wana own a blueprint if you have no land?

[dry mango]

someone can donate to you,🙃 always have that option

[little moon]

You dont need a land to make skins. Once you have the blueprint thats all you need to be able to craft them.

[radiant sky]

oh, didn't know that

[radiant sky]

where you got this info? so i can read up... maybe i missed other stuff too

[thorn salmon]

I imagine its like league of legions, you can have random free illuvials to play for free, but you need to craft to one to use for arena, right?

[little moon]

I don't remember where it was said. But the idea is that the blueprint is a crafting recipe. Crafting is done in the overworld using mined/harvested resources and to create the 'skinned' versions of the items you burn some Illuvial NFTs as well.

[radiant sky]

aaah you are right, got the crafting part out of a grant stream i think.

[little moon]

Illuvials are caught in the overworld. There are 25 lines of Tier 0 Illuvials that can be captured for free. If you want to capture the Tier 1-5 Illuvials you pay a 'travel fee' to access the regions with higher tier Illuvials.

[dusty agate]

U ll get T-0 they also can be traded it someone will need them

[fair temple]

Tier zero land plot? you can't do anything on-chain with a Tier zero plot.
can't trade, can't sell, cant harvest tradable fuel

[thorn salmon]

Ok got it, so blueprints are not important in arena. The more illuvials you captured, the more stratergies you can play

[dusty agate]

Uh so it applies only illuvials?

I ve read something like that, there can be some demand on t0 at the beginning

[fair temple]

Tier 0 land plots are sandbox land plots with the harvesting capabilities of Tier 2 lands.
The free to play lands are completely off-chain and will not have any functionality for the ecosystem except for a revenue stream when people speed up the game off-chain.

all other known T0 assets will be on-chain.

[radiant sky]

blueprints for skins are just cosmetics, they have no impact on your gameplay at all

[dusty agate]

Who knows 😂😂

[thorn salmon]

Thanks, so I think I should focus on collecting fuels strategy

[dusty agate]

Do u have a land?

[radiant sky]

maybe if you can make your ranger look like a real ramphire, it will have some impact 😂

[thorn salmon]

Ouch.....

[fair temple]

if you don't have a land you can't get any fuel on a Tier 0 land 🙂 (or yes you can get off-chain fuel, but it won't have any actual value. It's like playing clash of clans. The elixer also does not actually have value)

[dusty agate]

U can do both collect fuel and skan illuvials for bp.

[thorn salmon]

Just do some research before getting a plot

[dusty agate]

But to make your own skin collection its different issue. You will need some recourses from overworld

[dusty agate]

Things are changing fast. If weapons have affinity and they can give 1 point for synergy, maybe something can be done like to combine fire illuvial skin and fire sward

[thorn salmon]

Also need to do the math, buy a land plot or buy $ILV with an amount of ETH

[radiant sky]

sure, maybe... but i give it a chance asymptotically to 0, that skins will be more than cosmetics 1 day

[dusty agate]

Yeh hope so, armor has some stats almost in each game

[thorn salmon]

Assume their price not changed until alpha release date

[radiant sky]

not much math you can do right now. no one knows what revdis will be, no one knows what skins will be worth, no one knows possible features of land in the future... hard to do the math.
only math you can do is just compare the fuel output of all different land tiers and ILV. Everything else is just speculating

[thorn salmon]

Yeah just expect and enjoy the game, like guys who paid thousands $ for Rise of Kingdoms without thinking of getting any money back. We are not hardcore gamer like that, but fusion of investing & playing is ok

[radiant sky]

saw a video where 1 player lost ingame stuff worth of 100K$ in one evening 😄
just imagine buying ILV now for 100K$

[thorn salmon]

Imagine a strategy game like that, running on Illuvium ecosystem😁

Kieran does mention about his vision, we are not gonna get 1 game, but many games

[radiant sky]

yep indeed... already hyped for illuvicart in a few years 😄

[dusty agate]

I d invested in the begging 1 ilv 1$

But unfortunately we dont know stuff like that in non developed countries

[radiant sky]

i live in a developed country, and didn't know that either

[dusty agate]

There should be a platform were people find startups to finance

[little moon]

I think only like 5 people got to buy for $1 in the preseed round.

[dry mango]

there are actually several launchpads

[leaden egret]

https://tenor.com/view/ilv-illuvium-atlas-wen-gif-25571730

[versed warren]

@amber atlas is there a chance that Illuvium zero wont be a thing and what would happen to land? I just need some clarification on why you said “chance to be scrapped”.

[topaz mauve]

we consider them zero, I would assume the chance is 0.01%

there is still 0.01% chance there will be a world war 3, or economic collapse, or everyone will die from some disease, who knows?

[versed warren]

Thats still a chance and I would like to know why theres even a chance.

[topaz mauve]

If you would like to know the future, I suggest that you play a different life 😄

[potent dock]

He was responding to a post where someone specifically said "if there is a non-zero chance that IZ could get scrapped". #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[versed warren]

Well if thats it, okay. But I just noticed and it seemed weird, thats all.

[topaz mauve]

Mods in this discord reply within 13 seconds on average 😄

[versed warren]

Makes sense now, thanks 🙏

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/michaelscott-wink-yes-you-know-it-gif-13342379

[rancid lion]

Halfway through September you know what that means.

[lyric hamlet]

Means they lied to us

[little moon]

Comments like this are why they refuse to give us estimated dates for anything

[frosty haven]

It will be here when it’s ready and up to the Illuvium standard. Until then all we can do is be patient

[dusty agate]

We are waiting for ILZ alpha… not for overworld

[frosty haven]

I understand I’m a heavy land holder lol

They said mid September

[dusty agate]

That become mid October… very fast 😂😂

[frosty haven]

If that’s what needs to happen where they are comfortable launching the product then so be it. Delays happen frequently in the game dev world

[dusty agate]

I think launch date is near, after reading Johnny’s comments.

[thin wolf]

Let's see what this weekend brings, might be some juicy leaks😬

[fickle ore]

Land is getting released this month can’t wait 🥳

[thin wolf]

That would be awesome

[dusty agate]

Wtf why only 8/10 ?:))

[fair temple]

whitepaper is outdated and only got a 6 from them :]

[young hill]

I want them to review Star Atlas lol

[rotund reef]

Every YouTube video I've seen that does p2e tier lists has Illuvium at S Tier. That matters more.

[hollow shoal]

Illuvium is a triple S game. First of its kind lol

[radiant sky]

what... they got a glimps into the lore?

[radiant sky]

from where did you get this?

[scenic mica]

You know what, I’m glad the game isn’t out and that the TEAM is taking their time in making this PERFECT, I respect that and I know this shit is gonna blow the roof of the place when this is ready to be showcased, keep going team

[opal arrow]

when is illuv zero gunna be released?

[orchid isle]

Some time between now and then

[lyric hamlet]

Because they are taking for ever

[lyric hamlet]

People don't want it to be released. Look at the sleepers here

[tardy fern]

thanks for clarifying, that would have been pretty rough if t3s missed out on bps haha

[hollow shoal]

What are you talking about?

[radiant sky]

Don't feed the troll

[dusty agate]

Just got by email

[radiant sky]

Mmhkay didn't got one

[dusty agate]

Not sure if its official

[little moon]

Its on twitter so i think yes

https://mobile.twitter.com/illuviumio/status/1570382535510880259

Illuvium (@illuviumio)

We are so excited about the new research report from @BalthazarDAO !🤩

🔥As a special surprise, we are partnering with them to award 10 Standard and 5 Holo Exclusive Illuvium x Balthazar Cosplay NFTs!🔥

Check out the original post for instructions to participate 👇

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[little moon]

What? I want it released so bad lol

I prob wont get invited into the private beta but itd cool so I can showcase it on my small channel LOL

[nimble lichen]

Some juicy looking T3 on the floor

[vivid cipher]

!beta

[dry forge]

You can register for the closed beta through this link: https://play.illuvium.io/arena

You can improve your chances of being selected for the beta by:

1. Becoming a ranger (Level 5 in the server)
2. Joining # twitter-role and promoting Illuvium on twitter
3. Participating in (and winning) our weekly trivia competition

[distant quest]

landsale will happen again soon?

[empty path]

#💬〕general message

[lofty mountain]

Dont ape in for alpha game......its just like ETH merge......nothing will change......people think that after alpha ilv and land will moon......lol.......do u see moon in eth after merge......there must be demand to raise the game demand......which is not possible in this current scenario.........IlV is definatelynthe best project i have seen.....this is my top 5 project.......but guys just dont ape in.....let the price come to you rather than u run for the price

[topaz mauve]

I think.... You should type more... messages that do not make sense... because the comparison with merge.... doesn't make any sense... stop giving advice to people... because nobody knows the future.... including you...

[lofty mountain]

just ignore my message.....why are u so scary....are u negotiating ur land for sale....lol......look at the market......nobody knows the future doesnt mean tomorrow there will be no night and day.........

[hollow shoal]

What…are…the…four…other…projects?

[lofty mountain]

there are many.u have to look for yourself.the best for me doesnt look best for you...

[mystic umbra]

Fucking Christ stop with the ellipses

[hollow shoal]

Lol that was so helpful. Anyway, what’s your land situation like?

[lofty mountain]

I already sold mine.Will buy again but my target isnt meet yet

[topaz mauve]

Flipper detected.

[hollow shoal]

Ah well I hope you get some choice land next time. Gonna go find those four other projects.

[topaz mauve]

I don't care about the price, I buy for myself to play.

[lofty mountain]

play lol.Just buy psp and play.we are very early to metaverse .u dont come here to play.u are here to earn.if u wanna play grab some sports nad play outside like football.basketball....and ifbu wanna stay at home then play psp...nintento etc

[topaz mauve]

Just FYI, nobody asked for your FA here.

[lofty mountain]

i am just expressing my words.

[mystic umbra]

Just because someone buys land right now doesn’t mean they’re aping in I don’t follow, in order to play the alpha you have to have land.

[lofty mountain]

lol people here sya this is damn good land blah blah......hehe megacity....and selling theor t4 land for 25 eth

lol

[mystic umbra]

That’s entirely subjective

It may be good land to them

And even if you give a great argument as to why it isn’t good land, they can still say nah I think it’s good land.

[lofty mountain]

ya....what u get by playing alpha.....u think u get blueprint right after playing for hours.....why u wanna play....can u plz elaborate

[mystic umbra]

Because it’s subjective

[lofty mountain]

investing without knowledge is no good

[mystic umbra]

So I get a feel on how to maximize the game efficiently so when the open beta hits, I will know how to get the best fuel output with my land.

[mystic umbra]

Why do you assume people here have no knowledge. Making assumptions is never a good idea

[lofty mountain]

I just want to give some message....its their turn to listen or not....i have no problem......

people saying this land mega city.....nad blah blah ....then no problem.....

if i say just wait and buy land at cheap ...then its problem for u guys

[topaz mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/svetov-svtv-светов-либертарианство-смех-gif-25979760

[lofty mountain]

they just release 20% of land.....if everything is complete then who will buy that 80%land........this is very long project......so why ape in to buy land.....just wait big dip is coming guys

if team decide to delay alpha then what will u play....lol.....here to play alpha......we are not here to play.....we are here to earn.....

[mystic umbra]

Stop with the fucking ellipses man there is literally no need at all

[topaz mauve]

Mental.

[lofty mountain]

just delete and read without ellipses

lol

[lofty mountain]

same to u

[mystic umbra]

Dude who is we. Yeah I’m excited about earning but I’m also a gamer. This game itself may not entice me but getting good management in this game is going to make my overworld runs way better.

[lofty mountain]

nice keep it up bro.

[mystic umbra]

Keep what up man, I’m trying to understand what you’re saying and countering when I disagree. I will keep it up if you’re trying to act as the voice of the community with those statements

[lofty mountain]

No problem.
Whats problem with you?
I will never change my statement.
"This project is damn good but dont just ape in to buy land guys.You will get much cheaper than now.Just dont believe everyone here.They are all here to dump thos lands at higher price.Be cautious"

this is my statement.

Recent Example:
ETH Merge.
Pow to Pos.
What happened nothing

"Buy the rumour Sell the News"

[mystic umbra]

That is still speculation. But if someone here is going for a simple T1 or T2 your statement doesn’t apply as much. You’re not giving them anything to go off of except a prediction that they’ll get it lower. Anything’s possible however I’m referring to you saying we’re not here to play we’re here to earn, I’m here to earn but I’m also here to play the game. There’s also people who maybe don’t want to try and time the bottom perfectly and are fine getting the land at the discount it is now compared to 2 months ago

[lofty mountain]

I am not stopping them to buy

[mystic umbra]

I don’t think it’s as fair of an analogy to make unless you’re simply holding the land to flip it?

I’m not so concerned with the price that my land is at now because I’m never going to sell it

[lofty mountain]

I am not stopping people to buy.Its their money they can buy whatever they want.

[mystic umbra]

But I got mine with silv2 so there’s need to look back

[lofty mountain]

why u guys can sell land saying best megacity....it they dont happened then?

u guys saying all will come true and mine may not come true ....

[mystic umbra]

The point is. You don’t know that land is going to go lower. So your statements like that are just as damaging as the people trying to sell their megacities and to be honest I’ve only really seen the same couple of people repost their same land. Not like it’s everyone in here

[lofty mountain]

and u know the land going higher?

[mystic umbra]

No I don’t know. But if someone is comfortable paying the price it is at right now, why not let them, because let’s say they listen to you and land hits a reversal and they no longer feel comfortable paying that price, they’ll be assed out and the only person will be themselves to blame from taking advice from some guy in a discord pretending like he knows everything

This isn’t me saying this is every person. Im providing a situation to show you how your statements can potentially be damaging to the people in this space

[lofty mountain]

lol.if i say land will hit 50eth then you will be happy.

[mystic umbra]

I won’t give a shit because you’re some random dunce in a discord channel

[lofty mountain]

People search youtube before investing.And there are many youtuber who agree and disagree.Then what you file a case against those youtuber ?

[lofty mountain]

Same here.I also dont give a damn

[mystic umbra]

A case?

No if I saw the video and had the opportunity to talk to the creator of the video I’d ask him why he thought that, then I’d tell him why I’d think it was damaging

Same process

You’re just opening yourself up to criticism here, whereas the YouTuber has the shield of choosing not to look at his comments

[lofty mountain]

Why are you debating with me here.

[mystic umbra]

I literally told you everything you say is speculative. Everything I say is speculative. Im coming at it with the approach that I am speculating, but you are coming at with the approach that what you’re saying is fact

[lofty mountain]

I didnt say anything wrong.

[mystic umbra]

Because your ellipses pissed me off

[lofty mountain]

Thats ur problem

Not Mine

[hearty cradle]

..............

[timber sapphire]

Well that was 10 min of reading im never getting back

[mystic umbra]

Glad to waste your time

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[timber sapphire]

You should just ignore the guy, obvious troll

[mystic umbra]

I destroy trolls just like Legolas in lord the rings

[quick elm]

........... what's up fellow broke bag holders.....?

[mystic umbra]

I’m just so hungry

[quick elm]

Hangry, I get ya

[mystic umbra]

Maybe that’s it

[mystic umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/boromir-cave-troll-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16342589

[timber sapphire]

Lool

[ocean elbow]

Can you still buy land?

[undone phoenix]

Yes. It’s on the secondary market.

Go to official links, and find the Illuvidex. You need an IMX wallet.

[shadow laurel]

I when to the secondary market looking for a land but came to find out that its on ETH network and they charge a lot for gas so I decided to to buy one.

[undone phoenix]

Imx have no gas fees. Where did you look?

[shadow laurel]

No too long ago

[topaz mauve]

IMX has literally zero gas fees.

You need to go to https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/land-sale in order to buy land. Click filter, click "sold", and look for lands.

The best way is to actually use tokentrove.com to find the land you want, and then buying it on illuvidex.

[glad junco]

What’s the news with mega cities?

[cinder willow]

Wait ti’ll next year 😆

[radiant sky]

You didn't saw latest ama, hu?

[random cobalt]

Haha, they definitely didn't

[lilac dagger]

Any Zero highlights from that recent AMA?

[eager elk]

Hi guys
any updates for the release of the game ?

[mystic gull]

updates are pinned

[eager elk]

how does all of this makes sense. the release of illuvium-zero was expected months ago. And now we are still pushing the dates ?

[opal thistle]

No official release date announced yet, team is working hard to have a good alpha ready as soon as posible

[hollow shoal]

Complete change in graphics and UI

[cinder willow]

No And I don’t want to, it will be another false hope. 😂

[radiant sky]

Your choice, but it's not cool spread Info, if you have obviously no clue what you are talking about 🙂

[cinder willow]

But it’s ok to give people false hope?😁

[radiant sky]

Nope it isn't

[rotund reef]

My interpretation of the Kieran interview is he plans on having most of this stuff out this year. He kept saying "this year". This year is 2022, so that would be pretty exciting. It would also assume from what Johnny was saying that IZ should be first out.

[radiant sky]

Idk what's first. But this year sounds pretty doable to me. Incoming devblog will give more insights aswell to do some predictions

[rotund reef]

It seems like they really want to send a message to other projects that this is not only going to be better, but they're going to get it out before everyone else.

[thin wolf]

Private beta overworld and Illuvitars, ilz seems highly likely for this year at least based on Kierans interview, and we all know when Kieran throws out time lines he never misses...😬

[little moon]

Just keep in mind that Kieran also said "this year" a lot last year. He might be right this time, he might not be. I wouldnt get too excited until we see something more concrete.

[rotund reef]

I don't get excited. It comes when it comes. Can't get let down if you don't get excited in the first place. 😆

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[rotund reef]

I'm so busy with stuff, the later it comes out the better for me (because I'm going to have to shoot content as well, and this can take hours). But I know I'm in the minority.

[nimble lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[hollow shoal]

Yeah and in the interview he even said he has no idea how much it took to build everything. I mean it’s good he owned up to it.

[rotund reef]

Companies need big, energetic thinkers at the top. But sometimes there is a disconnect between the dream and the reality.

[lilac dagger]

Well said. Implementation will always be behind vision

[random cobalt]

But when dreams do meet reality....

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-explosion-gif-21768412

[hollow shoal]

@thin wolf what’s the land percentages looking like? I see those 20+ getting larger and larger

[thin wolf]

Will have a looksey,havent looked in awhile,but unique owners have been raising steadiley

[hollow shoal]

I saw that, super cool to see. I have been slowly getting more land as well. I can’t wait to retire lol

[thin wolf]

you and me both buddy i was ment to get a MC but have just been buying plots randomley around the world...do you have a MC?

or looking to get

[hollow shoal]

I do not, it would be cool but just kinda hoping for the Best Buy randomly. I’ll probably try for one later on when I have more capital to be able to put offers in. Plus when the offer feature is live.

[thin wolf]

i have my plots spread out on multible wallets as to sneak up on my neighbours when offering goes live.😆

[nimble lichen]

damn thought we were a community

[hollow shoal]

See that’s smart, I just hope people are like hey have it

[thin wolf]

God i wish that was true.

[amber narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/harrys-hammer-club-harry-hammer-club-wen-gif-26315615

[hollow shoal]

It will be a dog eat dog world and they will demand a lot

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/ilv-gif-26442173

[thin wolf]

Fuckers...

[hollow shoal]

You have a better plan. I’ll put offers in all at once and hope for the best lol

[thin wolf]

fair enough,i beeing a dick with tier 1 ones next to a tier 3😬 what goes around comes around.

[thin wolf]

100% do not.

[radiant sky]

Did the Same with t2 and t3 plots... Hopimg for a good price to buy the way overpriced t1 for my 3x3 and some extra gain for $ilv 🙃

[hollow shoal]

Haha how come?

[thin wolf]

i thought you asked if i had a better plan?

[hollow shoal]

Oh sorry, back on track. I think it’s a better plan just costly to transfer.

If you can get a MC with the strategy then it’s worth it. Transferring lands to the main account will suck.

[thin wolf]

it does not cost anything on IMX to transfer to another wallet.

[hollow shoal]

Oh nvm. So you have the superior strategy lol

[thin wolf]

you give me too much credit,i had a set amount of Eth set aside for a MC and got inpatient and bought randomly all over the place😬

[hollow shoal]

Honestly I think it’s better that way. I want to build an MC in the next or 3rd sale when there is a lot of land.

But also conflicted because now is probably the best time to create one while illuvium is still being learned about

[topaz mauve]

I think the next sale will be very far from now.

Therefore, if you want to buy now - it's a great chance.

[lyric hamlet]

Who ever is selling at .27 ETH Is a menace

[rotund reef]

I'm seeing ~.35 as the floor rn

[glad junco]

Just give me my Dev blog

[empty path]

@bitter glade should be working on that this week afaik

[versed warren]

I wish I could see one and snag it

[topaz lily]

Yo

[vagrant osprey]

does IZ have a date yet for beta?

[empty path]

No, there is not. If there was a date, it would be posted in #📣〕announcements

[vestal badger]

Why prices on the lands dropped down so much? you guuys think it's because IZ game is getting pushed back for so long?

[half turtle]

hmm . TBH im not noticing a significant drop in price.. I dont think its pushed back, they never had a date.. during the land sale I assumed September, but now Im thinking late Oct

although Nov would not be surprising

[vestal badger]

I was present auction and bought some plots. Now that I compare, the valuesis sell on market. And I was counting amount eth i spend then and now

[half turtle]

On token trove, I still see T1 prices above $450(ETH-USDC); and T2 priced around $1,300.. I think thats pretty regular, no?

[vestal badger]

Unfortunately they are lover than I purchased 😕

Should have waited for good deals

[half turtle]

ahh ic

[half turtle]

I get you. Yea, those who waited are the big winners. Also, not earning on the land you purchased doesnt help.

[random cobalt]

An offer option is gonna be tasty

[queen folio]

[hollow shoal]

Do we have an date for the offer function?

[empty path]

IMX tweeted hopefully mid October

[hollow shoal]

Thank you. Gah just a month awayish

[empty path]

[hollow shoal]

Shoot IZ release with offer function release maybe at the same time would be OP.

[sharp elk]

There are going to be a lot of releases in the rest of this year. If you want to buy more ILV or lands don’t wait till after the price has jumped up. Bears will miss the bottom, by definition. Just like bulls miss the top.

[hollow shoal]

Wise words thank you. You aren’t wrong.

[neon light]

did they say which year ?

[empty path]

No

[long tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/point-hehe-haha-smiling-i-see-what-you-did-there-gif-21567119

[stoic wigeon]

Any news on Illivium Zero?

[mystic gull]

latest info is on the pinned comments

[thin wolf]

Why would you say that?

[cyan dew]

Wen

[deep maple]

wen

[undone phoenix]

Incredibly soon

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[undone phoenix]

Think we need a new gif soon

[empty path]

Why

[undone phoenix]

It’s making me feel old

[empty path]

Maybe you are?

[undone phoenix]

I am 😞

Miss being 18

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-hello-gif-22989402

[topaz mauve]

Just bought my first T3 guys!

Crimson Waste (693,403)

Two weeks ago I had no lands, now I have 6.

[ivory bough]

congratz. you bought in every region?

[topaz mauve]

No

I am kinda choosing fuel strategy

Just buying good lands from price/elements/fuel perspective.

Blueprints will be a nice addition if I get some good ones.

[ivory bough]

Enjoy the features then 🙂

[topaz mauve]

I have some perfect T2s, a few T1s and now T3 because it was only 2.72ETH

Thanks 🙂

I feel like people are selling their lands in a wrong moment.

[ivory bough]

2.72, wow, nice buy for a T3 🙂

[topaz mauve]

Now is a moment to buy

[topaz mauve]

Indeed, with double rewards from Rarible/Immutable partnership, I will get back around 300$ in IMX I think.

Which makes it extra cheap.

[ivory bough]

well, land sale was around 1800 ETH if I'm not mistaken. Many might need their investment back if they had gone all in initially. That's one reason not to go all in every time you wanna invest so you wouldn't have to sell cheap later. the

[topaz mauve]

I highly recommend everyone to buy on Rarible until September 20th. if you planned to buy - it is a good chance.

[ivory bough]

Yeah IMX does give some back which is def a good additional reward

[topaz mauve]

That's true.

The crazy thing is that this land was minted at 4.2 and then resold for 4.5 and now I got it for 2.72.

[ivory bough]

Yeah that's def a loss if the seller had paid around $8k for it and now got back half of that (depending on when ETH and the time he/she purchsed it)

[topaz mauve]

True.

Now I think I am loaded on lands and will start buying tokens and DCA.

[near tusk]

What would you say a perfect T2 is @topaz mauve

[topaz mauve]

2/2/2 elements allocation.

I own this one, for example, you can check: Crimson Waste (666,400)

[ivory bough]

nice number 😄

[topaz mauve]

hahaha

[near tusk]

And would you say crypton is the best fuel too

[topaz mauve]

I think Crypton and Hyperion are both the best.

However, it is impossible to predict what's going to happen. I believe all fuels will have relatively same value.

In any case, the price difference is only +-25%, the difference will never be huge.

[near tusk]

Are you gonna try for a mega city

[atomic canyon]

how do you know a land is perfect ? what stats should i look after ?

oh sorry you answered above

[undone phoenix]

Only missing a 2 instead of 0

[ivory bough]

it has 666 and that's an interesting-enough of a number 😄

[undone phoenix]

Yes. But perfect would be 666,420

That plot should have a giant premium

[topaz mauve]

Why? I am missing the point.

[desert pilot]

75% vs 125% is huge

[hollow shoal]

Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe bad

[fickle ore]

only 2 weeks left until they announce when ILZ comes out!

[undone phoenix]

Where have you heard this?

[random cobalt]

Ima need to get a new phone when IZ drops. Too many cracks on my current device

[undone phoenix]

You might wanna wait until it drops on the phone though

[random cobalt]

True true forgot about that, more time to save for that then

[analog vapor]

What's your best guess for a date?

[analog inlet]

There is no information on that Its been said that the team is "aiming" to get #🎮〕illuvium-zero Alpha version out sometime in September but you will need to be a landowner to play

That was an estimate not a "released date" there has never been any specific date when it was "supposed" to come out estimates can change.

If your talking about "LIVE" IZ will be in beta mode till overworld is ready to go LIVE. No estimate when Overworld will go live as it has not even entered any form of beta yet .

( #🎮〕illuvium-zero and Illuvium Overworld will go live at the same time No earning till Live and all #🎮〕illuvium-zero progress will be reset before it goes live ( except for blueprints)

[analog vapor]

💯 . Sounds like November, just in time for the holidays 😉 ? I am okay with it being as late as it needs to, I just like to see what the general consensus is. Love to know what other people be thinking too. Also, it will be beta ONLY until overworld?

[analog inlet]

Yes its been said both games will go "live" at the same time

[analog vapor]

Thank you m8, also love we havin dual convos lmao

[analog inlet]

No worries here is some more general info on #🎮〕illuvium-zero and staking you may find informative Also check the pinned messages
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[analog vapor]

Oooooo, you be putting in the detailed work. Ty. 🔥

[willow otter]

So from when i start playing till the start of overworld all my bulding will be back to zero ? Or u mean just the fuel i own will reset

[thin wolf]

everything will reset but you keep the BP

[willow otter]

So basicly only focus in bp

Good to know

[thin wolf]

and finding the most optimal route to get the scanner up asap

[brisk plume]

damn

i hope IZ release date will be announced at aussie con

[thin wolf]

not looking likely as Johnny will be full on ILZ after the CON.

[plain sundial]

Do we have any footage from day1 ?

[thin wolf]

only have this

https://tenor.com/view/rick-astley-never-gonna-give-you-up-cry-for-help-pwl-stock-aitken-waterman-gif-17671973

and thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3OMGb14BN0

[hollow shoal]

I wish we had his PowerPoint

[devout elk]

What’s ILZ?

[queen folio]

ILZ is the abbreviation for Illuvium: Zero-- it's the city building companion game which players build on the Illuvium Land and generate resources that players use in the main Illuvium game 🙂

[devout elk]

Thanks

[lyric hamlet]

Soooo.. When?

[analog inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/wen-now-pxin-gxng-birdofurdo-spxceballs-gif-24927571

[random cobalt]

Stay ready

[bleak raven]

congrats to zero

[hollow shoal]

Soon yes

[iron flax]

wen illuvium zeo? 😂

[cinder willow]

https://tenor.com/view/hopefully-very-soon-liam-scott-edwards-ace-trainer-liam-i-wish-it-came-sooner-i-hope-it-comes-soon-gif-26387702

[agile marlin]

hi guys can anyone help please? Trying to buy some land - have USDC in wallet (more than enough) but showing insufficient funds everytime. Disconnected, restarted - same issue. Any ideas please? ty!

on eth chain also.. should be working fine

plenty of eth also to cover any fees

[thin wolf]

Are you on the iluvidex?

[agile marlin]

yup

[radiant sky]

You put your Cash on L2?

[agile marlin]

I don't follow tbh 😛 I have USDC in MM

it is USDC not USD isn't it

[thin wolf]

is your USDC on IMX or Eth L1?

[agile marlin]

ah okay I assume ETH then

I need it 'on' IMX?

[radiant sky]

You have to send your usdc to imx L2 otherwise you can't buy

[agile marlin]

Ah ty haha. didn't know this. How would I do that please? x

[agile marlin]

right I have to find that then

do I go to IMX website for this plz?

[thin wolf]

just click your wallet balance on the Illuvidex

[agile marlin]

okay

[thin wolf]

should see this

[agile marlin]

gotcha I see! deposit there

bless you thanks guys

[thin wolf]

[agile marlin]

processing 😛

ty!

3rd land parcel nearly bought..

[near tusk]

what did u get

[agile marlin]

abysmal basin l1

3 tier 1's when this goes through

[near tusk]

very very noice

[agile marlin]

trying to get one of each fuel site

[near tusk]

get them blueprints in alpha

[agile marlin]

yes sir!

1 of each fuel site and 1 of each location

is the goal

fkin bullish on ilv. I cannot believe it's dropped this low on ilv price and land floor

feel lucky

[near tusk]

yea seems like the best nft game

[agile marlin]

got two land parcels in auction for near full price...

still bullish 🙂

[near tusk]

im hoping to get a megacity

[agile marlin]

awesome! that is going be hard to get? can you find your land and put offers for ajoined ones quite easily?

to link them up?

[near tusk]

offers apparently coming in future

but yea link them up 2x2 or 3x3

i got 1x2 atm

[agile marlin]

all gone through ty guys

one more needed now for hyperion fuel.. will check the floor next week

thor odins still paying out 😛 Think I'll use that for more plots

heresy or giga play? haha

[bleak raven]

wen zero????????

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[dusty agate]

Wen soon, waiting for updated info after cryptocon 🙏

[mystic gull]

well it's sunday

[compact nebula]

soon is soon

[radiant sky]

Soon is already now! 🤪

[lyric hamlet]

2025

[lethal trail]

t = soonˢᵒᵒⁿ

[dusty agate]

Yeh if u were told soon in july so its 3 month if in August its 2 month 😂

[true horizon]

Haven't checked ina while so a bit out of the loop. Any info out on when Zero launches?

[brisk stump]

it should be sooner than sooniest

[frosty haven]

https://tenor.com/view/ilv-illuvium-pooh-tuxedo-wink-gif-24402216

[frosty haven]

whats up guys This killed me 🤣

[dry harness]

hi guys are you ready

[empty path]

No

[dry harness]

for illuvium zero

[polar cosmos]

no, because there is no any date announcement start game

i have 6 lands from auction & still waiting for utilty ...

[empty path]

We all are

[polar cosmos]

it's a bit weak when you invest in land that you can't use until devs decide to get your ass up

[mystic gull]

take care of your ass

[harsh acorn]

Look at a game Axie that sold land well before Illuvium. They still have no playable land or near as much gameplay/leaks the ILV-0 has. DYOR

[frosty haven]

We are so close to launch. they want to do it right and they've said this multiple times

[polar cosmos]

I know it well, I'm one of the first 10k people to play axie

and you are right

there is still not landplay... but it's illvium, 3xA game

[polar cosmos]

thanks for your care

[radiant sky]

I don't get it... Are you thinking of ilv land gameplay should be ready faster than 10pixel Land gameplay?

[polar cosmos]

no, but we dont have to wait 3-4 years xd

[radiant sky]

You think you have to wait 4 years to play ilz?

[polar cosmos]

no

if the IZ arrives within 6 months, I will be satisfied

[radiant sky]

Well at least alpha will be, don't worry.
Open Beta? probably not, who knows...

[dusty agate]

I am waiting alpha launch in few days, dont even want to think about 6 month what are talking about

[rotund forum]

What are you talking about??? 😆. I’ll sign for 6 months in a heartbeat. Be realistic ppl

[radiant sky]

Ilz Alpha dropping in 6 months would be disappointing for sure. That would mean open Beta launch Like Q1 2024 earliest date...

[rotund forum]

I was responding to open beta

[radiant sky]

Actually you wasn't... But i c know what you mean

[rotund forum]

The alpha will probably be in a couple of months 🤞🏻

[radiant sky]

6?😂

[rotund forum]

A couple is usually 2 mate

Let’s strech that to eoy

But in the end it is all just guessing. Best not to obsess too much about it and enjoy other things in the meantime.

[dusty agate]

Agree, i d be glad to hear some dates here…

[rotund forum]

Best projects don’t actually do specific deadlines. It’s ready when it is ready. That said, they want to be the first AAA web 3.0 game out there and have competitors so they won’t sit down and take it easy until they can launch.

[dusty agate]

That was said before and after land sale… i dont think u have an experience doing business, if i knew that it will be out when its out i d buy land now much cheaper and would wait without problem. I did it while Lansdale as i thought i will be one of the first who’s gonna play and test game. So i have an offer for you give me X amount of your money i know better were to invest and u ll start to earn when u start to earn… deal?

[timber sapphire]

You can still sell your land and buy later

[dusty agate]

Not selling i am buying more 😗

Maybe i was wrong i haven t done deep research before paying but usually i can pay the sum i spent for my hobby( i mean playing games) and i can afford loosing 5k 10k doesn t matter. I just want the game to be launched to enjoy. Not touching other side about the income it can bring…

[hollow shoal]

I still hope they drop it like a bomb. “IZ Alpha release in two hours. Good luck, have fun.” My happiness would skyrocket and I would call out of work lol

[deep bone]

Not sure if this would be the best or worst game drop hahahah

[hollow shoal]

It wouldn’t matter after two hours. People would be rushing to get signed in and start building. It would be the max dash.

[dusty agate]

Yeh, plus i also want to invest in Ilv. Iz alpha can serve as a good example what kind of game (s) can team produce. I know Theres PB 1 and graphics are awesome, but thats a small part of something big.

[hollow shoal]

This entire project is small compared to everything they will accomplish. I mean it’s truly just the beginning. Any piece you can get is going to be scrumptious.

[dusty agate]

True but we are making our decisions now. I m like Gimme something let me believe in what i want to believe.

[hollow shoal]

How many pieces of land do you have? 😮 anyone you like in particular?

[dusty agate]

I ve seen leaked videos and read everything team members wrote here and i think we are not far from alpha version release day.

[dusty agate]

Not 200 like some have but more then 10😂😂

[hollow shoal]

Yeah those guys are insane. I could never manage that. Even with a renting feature it’s like hoping for the best for each one. It’s literally a business that point.

[dusty agate]

Thats not many, i didn t like some when i bought and could not sell them, just added those i liked

Will decrease the number lets see

[hollow shoal]

So what are your top two favorite regions?

[dusty agate]

I even do t know, people like crimson waste… so think you can get more valuable bp there. Personally i liked earth and air illuvials when playing so I like BS and Shardbluff labirinth

If i am not wrong with the chances to get those skins there

Imagine Titanor skin, you should look like a Tank something huge :))

[hollow shoal]

I hope they make his absolutely amazing. Only time will tell.

[dusty agate]

Not sure if skins will have like wings or tales that will be fun 😅

[hollow shoal]

Same nature and air are my top tier. Going ham in Brightland.

The special effects of any T3 will be worth it.

[dusty agate]

Nature illuvials also look cool

[hollow shoal]

Every land will produce a meta illuvial or two each set so everyone should get some pretty cool blueprints at one point in time.

[dusty agate]

Lets see.. how that will work, johnny said all aplha players will be available to collect some. If it is not hard to catch one maybe i ll try to make full sets, if its gonna be rare think swapping and trading them is good idea. I am more pve player then pvp i like to grind and collect stuff. I was playing GW2 when ut was new and i even explored 100% map, now i cant understand why i spend lot if hours doing that 😂😂

[hollow shoal]

Same, I wanna find some PvP players that i can sell to so my illuvials will make some impact and my wallet full lol

I just wish we knew about storage. That’s my biggest limiter if it even exists. Otherwise it’s going to be me living in the overworld

[dusty agate]

Yeh its like good when theres lot of stuff to do inside game u need to catch illuvials, collect recourses do pvp but at the same time u can t do all theres no time for everything to be done 100% and u dont want to shut down game as u have to add some plants to craft item or to check some random area for illuvials, hope this game will bring this feeling for players.

[hollow shoal]

This create demand. Everyone will benefit in some way or another. I am thinking of getting one more T2 before stopping just to be on the top of resources. It’s a new genre of gaming and I am here for it.

[dusty agate]

Its like a puzzle with 10k pieces, when u start to collect and think why the fak they made it so hard but at the same time u enjoy it 😂😂

[hollow shoal]

Do you have a favorite illuvial?

[dusty agate]

Yeh… unique chance to do what you like plus earn. I wish success to this project it can change a lot for lot of people.

[dusty agate]

Vermi and titanor all 3 tiers i like them :))

One for dmg one for def 😂

[hollow shoal]

Smart, I am going for Dash and Ador.

Although do we know the nature of the red panda? I might try for more land there.

[dusty agate]

Also like Loulura too but not malura.

[dusty agate]

Idk. Think people will love those who are effective on the deck. Maybe someone will like some cute skins too

[hollow shoal]

Exactly, it won’t matter if we have literally millions of players. If I have two or three unique skins. Chances are someone will buy them no matter what. I just hope that it’s truly unique and no repeats. Or just very few repeats. I am trying to make a blueprint factory and let this be a business.

[dusty agate]

You mean u want to sell BP or skins?

[hollow shoal]

Skins sorry

But if I had double blueprint i would probably keep it.

Or collect the various ones so I could monopolize them.

[dusty agate]

I think that if u will get a bp of even not very popular illuvial and u can craft skins easy and cheap lets say for 5$ each. U can make it not rare but cheap like it costs u 5 and u can sell for 7$ for example but 20k. There always will be players who cant afford expansive skins and go for cheaper ones.

[hollow shoal]

Exactly, some people that wanna collect every skin will buy some. It’s going to be amazing. Imagine selling $1,000 worth a skins a week. I feel like it’s possible.

[dusty agate]

Yeh but take in account that crafting skins will take a time, if u are not buying those recourses. Thats a good option too

[dusty agate]

First ramphy skins will be sold for 1k thats my opinion maybe for more :))

[hollow shoal]

Without a doubt probably the most valuable

Atlas second

[radiant sky]

1000$ a week? With how many plots?

It sounds very much

[dusty agate]

If plots are not enough, you can always use silv2 😉

[radiant sky]

Now i'm confused

Maybe i understand the whole conversation wrong 😄

[hollow shoal]

Just throwing numbers out haha

But who knows it could be possible

[radiant sky]

Sure

[hollow shoal]

I mean if I managed to grind for like half a week which allowed me to produce even 50 skins at $10 a pop. That’s money in the bank baby!

[dusty agate]

Technically like Solar said u dont need land to do all this stuff, as u can buy bp and collect other materials in overworld. Not sure in which game u have crafting places maybe u ll need at least 1 plot for that.

[hollow shoal]

I truly believe that the floor price for any skin should be $20. I mean 3 T1 illuvials, the resources to get said illuvials, and time.

I think crafting is in Mesa right?

[radiant sky]

It al starts with fuel prices, right. Time ist sadly not worth much, if you have people playing it in very Poor countries

[dusty agate]

It would be good if land owners wont sell bp and they produce skins . That will make lands more valuable

[hollow shoal]

I hope to employ said people and make sure they get some profit.

I want my land to make me money 24/7

If they had it to a point where anything made on your land goes to your inventory and I wake up to XX skins that would be dope. Use my time to collect resources for them to make them during the night or vice versa and then sell. Easy.

[dusty agate]

In my poor country people were paying 1500$ for stepn boots and we were on the first place just in front of china with number of consumers….

[radiant sky]

Brasil?

[dusty agate]

Georgia…

[radiant sky]

Uh damn...
Didn't know the average salary is that low in georgia

[dusty agate]

500$

[radiant sky]

Google just said arround 350€

[hollow shoal]

Hmmm here in Nevada the poverty wage is around $18/hour. So anything less then that and you are having a rough time.

[dusty agate]

Maybe its old. 1€ used to be 4 gel not its less then 3

[radiant sky]

You guys have good crypto taxes?
Good weather?

[dusty agate]

We have no taxes

[hollow shoal]

Have a good day guys! I am gonna study and take a nap lol

[dusty agate]

Haha .. its like Switzerland lot if mountains. U can enjoy winter there and summer on the seaside 😂

Sometimes its like u can do both same time 😅

[radiant sky]

😔 i don't Like the weather here

[dusty agate]

32c now…

[radiant sky]

Now that sounds okish... We have Like 16°C now

[pine siren]

Wasn’t zero supposed to launch like a month ago?

[radiant sky]

You can See latest Updates in the pinned messages

[dusty agate]

Its like the coldest can be -5 maybe -10 but i dont remember something like that happened in last years in summer max +40

[pine siren]

Latest update from a month and a half ago?

[radiant sky]

But pictures are looking nice, even more mountains than we have

[radiant sky]

No, Like 1 week ago

[dusty agate]

Yeh.. nature is grate there..

[pine siren]

Working on UI before alpha? Lmao they’ve been saying that since the land sale

[radiant sky]

But no beaches aswell 😔

[dusty agate]

What?:))

Seaside?

[radiant sky]

Yea. Don't think you can call it Alpha. It's more Like Beta or gamma 😅

[dusty agate]

Its black sea not the indian ocean 😀

[radiant sky]

That Looks beautiful

We have to less energy for something Like that 😆

[dusty agate]

Nature good, weather 8/10, no dangerous animals or other stuff food excellent, drinks are hard just need 1000€ a month to enjoy 😂😂

[radiant sky]

Same here, but you need Like 4.000 a month to enjoy 😅

And crypto taxes are looking horrible. Nothing Set fix, but the Outlook is Like really Bad.... So i won't stay for many years longer here

[dusty agate]

I live in Paris now i know what u mean. And i dont know what taxes you pay. Maybe because of that there was the biggest BTC mining factory in Georgia. Its still there think so…

[radiant sky]

Well the tax council still debating. But it Looks Like it's gonna be between 25% and 35% depending on how much money you Make.

[dusty agate]

And i still have business plan on table offering to invest in one like that in Free Economic Zone. Its good i didn t do that 😂😂

[dusty agate]

Like when u transfer it on your bank account or even when u hold it in crypto?

[radiant sky]

Even when you hold in crypto

[dusty agate]

But how they know what u ve got on MM for example?

[radiant sky]

You have to Cash out in advance to pay taxes for sure... Destroys totally the whole investement

[radiant sky]

Well, you have to show them.
Or you don't do it, but that would be illegal. If they Find out somehow you are fucked

[dusty agate]

Thats not good. Its like off topic for this channel, and if u wonna try some new place u are also invited in Geo. ☺️

[radiant sky]

i keep my eyes open 😉

Anyways... Time for some sleep. Cya another day

[slim harbor]

In the UK I'm fairly sure it just falls under capital gains for now so you get 10.5k tax free a year but after that it's 20%

Not the best, not the worst

[rotund reef]

Republic of Georgia is the shit. Been to Tbilisi and Kutaisi. Hot women, nice people, great food/wine. Really safe too.

[dusty agate]

🤷‍♂️

[rotund reef]

I want to get to Batumi sometime too.

[dusty agate]

Why its shit if u liked it ?:))

[rotund reef]

"The shit" -- means top tier, really good

[dusty agate]

Uh :)))

[rotund reef]

Just one of those things

[dusty agate]

Lets say not the best place and not the worst 😂

[rotund reef]

Kutaisi was a bit boring, but had a lot of great history

[dusty agate]

Its boring… U can have fun in Batumi…

[hollow shoal]

Guys what regions are supposed to be open on release?

[vivid cipher]

Do you mean in the overworld? Because all regions will be playable on #🎮〕illuvium-zero

[hollow shoal]

Yes overworld

Sorry was talking to a friend and couldn’t remember them so wanted to ask real quick

[vivid cipher]

Crimson waste.

Brightland steppes.

Can’t remember what the third, if it’s ready, will be. Abyssal basin or halcyon sea I guess

[tulip perch]

the third is a small portion of Sanctum messa

[vivid cipher]

But wasn’t that the idea for the overworld closed beta? Not the public launch.

[tulip perch]

ah you probably right there not sure now

[vivid cipher]

🤷

[lofty mountain]

what i told u guys .look now @wicked heath00 wait little more 2500-3000 on our way

[nimble lichen]

a few I would like to add to my stable

T4 down to 14K too

[lofty mountain]

wait little more T4 on 10K

[timber sapphire]

What was floor mint for t3?

[desert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/wen-creepz-wenfinity-wenwenwen-creepz-wen-gif-25738654

[sand radish]

around 3.5-4eth if i recall

[fair temple]

Abyssal basin is the third. Also dont forget sanctum mesa ^^

[timber sapphire]

Oh damn

[fair temple]

do realise you could have bought it with sILV2 and it would be a lot cheaper than that. The sILV2 went for 0.066 just a week before landsale and could be used for 0.14eth each.
So 3.5-4Eth would be the actual price, but taking into account sILV2 you should realise that the practical price was around half if they were informed of sILV2 beforehand.

[agile marlin]

This is not correct, it's 13k a year CGT free 😛

and then it's 10%

until next threshold

love the price dip. Only need 1 more plot to cover all the element sites (have two with the solon). Land floor is holding up through this and the cheapest t1 plot from yesterday sold today.

[dusty agate]

No mods around today?:))

[fair temple]

Do we need them?

[dusty agate]

Why, you are here 😂😂

Still waiting for some news about ilz today, bad or good ones….

[mystic umbra]

Why today?

What makes today special

[fair temple]

Why? Didnt Johnny say he would have a crack at ILZ after the convention?
So he is working his hardest on the game now... what news are you waiting for?

[mystic umbra]

Let’s give them a break

[dusty agate]

Yeh , plus there should be some as it was said they may launch it this month… if they can t thats a news too

[mystic umbra]

We’ll have pb2 so quick I’ll be distracted enough to forget about ILZ for a few weeks. And then finally when it does come I’ll have another purpose to go on my phone besides Twitter and discord

[agile marlin]

guys on the Zero overlay - whats the little gold coin in top right - does anyone know yet please? Looks like the main 'currency' and my question is if we know can it be 'mined' plz

[dusty agate]

Used to speed up building process

[agile marlin]

I see - guess it recharges on its own or can buy more with eth..

wonder if we can farm it also

[dusty agate]

Johnny said that we gonna get X amount while alpha everyday.

[agile marlin]

ah thanks man haven't seen that

[dusty agate]

But thats for alpha, it maybe sold as well in the future

[agile marlin]

there is sooo much to try and follow. Do you know how many conversations I have had with friends trying to explain this game and how many hours it's taken me. Yesterday with my brother - an hour.. and skimmed over a lot!

I love it

[dusty agate]

Yeh its complicated, u have to explain 3 different games. I tried too bring people and the answer was like we gonna check wen game is out 😂😂

[agile marlin]

haha same. I said by the time it's out the investors will pump this due to the beta quality. $50+ is a steal imo.

can't believe it has got this low

people are crazyyyyy

nearly 2k down to $50 pinch me

[mystic gull]

well it's because right now there is no earning in game and utility is staking (revdis needs more sales)

but yeah, if you want to invest is when you can accumulate

[dusty agate]

BTC is down to 18k from 72k thats maybe less in % but difference is 54k$ for a single coin

[dusty agate]

Think we gonna see ilv real value after full game release, same for land.

[near tusk]

So is land better to have or the currency

[dusty agate]

None can tell you that for 100%, i do prefer land right now but if ilv will drop i am gonna buy and stake it too… nfa

[near tusk]

Wake me up when you buy some and I’ll drop a grand into it

[dusty agate]

Naah i am not expert… i am just a gamer waiting for game 😂😂

[near tusk]

Expert

Don’t forget to wake me up when you do mr Kiazo expert

[dusty agate]

Lol ok … take in account i just learned words like DCA dump and pump 😂

[ivory bough]

Still, at that time, ETH was around $1800-2k and sILV2 was like $190 😄 Idk why ppl would sell at a loss though esp when IZ can be around the corner 🤷‍♂️

[radiant sky]

Flippers need liquidity... They don't know the project probably... Just minted in hope they could Flip for tripple the price. Now they See no Land sales and ilv down af.... They think it's a scam/Bad project and wana sell AT least for more than 0.
Just another possibility 🙃

[ivory bough]

Yeah ofc. Well, one reason to never go all-in in anything so you wouldn't have to sell anything at a loss until it's actually in profit. T3 for 2.5 ETH with ETH at $1200 is def a loss unless it was bought with free claimed sILV2 (not bought sILV2) 😄

[ivory fox]

Hey legends! Is there a website to view land for sale ?

[radiant sky]

#🔗〕helpful-links
Illuvidex
Immutable x

[ivory fox]

Thank you

Are there going to be more land sales upcoming ?

[radiant sky]

Yes, but probably not for a Long time

[ivory fox]

Are there any up for sale? Checking illuvidex now and don’t see anything

Nvm found it

Is tier 1 worth grabbing?

[versed warren]

Yeah

T1 gunna be good for bps

[radiant sky]

Hard to say with the Info provided, and game not released yet.
If you think skins will be sold for high price, maybe?
And i didn't do the maths lately, but if it comes to fuel production it had a horrible price a week ago, compared to the other Tiers and $ilv.
Because it is the cheapest Land, you will have probably no Problem with reselling it, because it is affordable for the peeps who wana invest in land

[ivory fox]

What’s BPS. Sorry total newb here trying to get my heads around everything

[versed warren]

Blue prints in game skins

[ivory fox]

Right gotcha thanks

[versed warren]

You will build a thing onland that scans for them

[ivory fox]

Yah was looking at fuel production. Tier 2 and up a better value then?

[versed warren]

That’s totally up to you.

[ivory fox]

Have the prices gone down since the land mint ?

[radiant sky]

I really have to do the maths first, but with this $ilv price right now, it is even possible that $ilv gives to most fuel per Buck 😄

[ivory fox]

Yah I wondered if the better play was to just buy a lot of $ILV at this price

[radiant sky]

Keep an eye on pinned messages in #💰〕token loads of unlocks Next months. It could be an indicator for the price dropping even more.

[radiant sky]

I would recommend inform yourself about the tokenomics, advantages of all the different landtiers and have a Look into devblog/ #🎨〕community-content before you actually buy Stuff.
We are still in PB1, no need to Rush and fomo in

[analog inlet]

@ivory fox Hi here is some additional information in the link below you should consider about Land and stking to see which fits your personal needs . #🎮〕illuvium-zero mobile builder game and Illuvium overworld and staking are both completely different opportunities

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[ivory fox]

Thank you mate, really appreciate all of your help. That AMA has got me hyped, but trying to decide the best approach for buying in.

[radiant sky]

Kierans ama? This dude really knows how to Hype you up 😄

[fair temple]

Infoluvial wrote an in-depth guide on Lands a couple months ago. While some things have changed since then, I still think it should give you a good overview of the basics.
infoluvial.io/all-you-need-to-know-about-land/
Obviously, if you find things that you still don't understand or want to confirm, don't hesitate to ask for clarification.

[radiant sky]

@ivory fox keep in mind... this is just fuel, without landmarks or megacities calculated in

you also have no revdis or skins calculated in, since we have no data how much it will be in future.

[dusty agate]

Never understood those charts.

[cedar ether]

when is ILV launching?

illuvium zero?

[dusty agate]

We dont know, hopefully soon

No dates announced yet

[ivory fox]

Haha that’s the one. He was off the charts !

[radiant sky]

It's simply about how much $ you have to pay for 1 fuel site. I compared t1- t4 and $ilv.
The yellow numbers you see with what prices i calculated.
The blue numbers are the End results.
There are no t4 landmark Bonus calculated in, since it has a different effect depending if the landmark fits your fuel sites in your t4.
There are also no megacities spreading bonuses calculated in.

[dusty agate]

So T1 and T4 look better then others?

[radiant sky]

No, for t1 you have to pay arround 430$/fuel site, with t2 you have to pay arround 290$per fuel site

[dusty agate]

Uh got it… thought u was calculating how much they produce per fuel site

[radiant sky]

No, since we have no clue about how much "a fuel" will sell for, you can't calculate that

[dusty agate]

Think T4 can produce 36X compared to t1 …

[radiant sky]

T4 are actually sligthly better than you See in my chart, since it has a landmark, which will give you more fuelproduction

[radiant sky]

That's correct

[dusty agate]

So lets say “fair” price will be 430$ x36

[radiant sky]

If you have just 1 Kind of fuel, and you have the corresponding landmark it is even more... Like close to 40x

[radiant sky]

Don't know what you gona say with this

[dusty agate]

But like in real estate trading bigger plots have less price for 1 sp. m

[dusty agate]

Nothing = just calculated same differently. If u buy T1 for 400$ and T4 for 400$X40 thats 16k it means u have spent 1$ equally

[radiant sky]

Yes... if i got you right 😂

[dusty agate]

I mean if u will pay more then 16k that means u slightly payed more for single fuel site compared to buy 40 t1 at 400. But its way harder to get 40 plots with same price, much better to get one even if you overpay. That calculations will be useful when or if we had fixed prices.

[radiant sky]

It is just an indicator i actually did for myself. I can play arround with numbers as much as i want when i am buying. Sure, the floorprice will rise with every plot you buy on fp, and the numbers will Change.

But for example if you just look at the price you have to pay for 1 fuel site if you buy $ilv... It is now a nobrainer if you think about buying one t1 or some $ilv

[dusty agate]

So buying ilv is better atm?

[radiant sky]

Keep in mind. The fuel is what gives you regular Cashflow. If you are lucky (Like in Euromillions) you get a rare bp and you can sell the skin for a good price.
But if you are eligible for revdis (which is regular Cashflow) and you produce more fuel (which is regular Cashflow) you might be better Off with some $ilv.
Maybe you Like playing Euromillions, then you go for Land, but don't buy t1... Buy t2

Actually i didn't want to go as deep as i went now, because i hate telling people what they should do... Everyone should decide for themself. It should have been just an indicator, what is "on Sale" atm 😅

[mystic gull]

that is why I go with at least have a land and ILV. But that is my way

[dusty agate]

I have not done those calculations when buying, i could buy like 20 25 or more ilv instead of several plots. I just decided to go for lands as theres a chance to get X amount from Bp… i didn t know what can earn by holding ilv. Not its cheaper and i see good chance to grab some…

[radiant sky]

You can play arround with some assumptions of revenue illuvium will make and do some calculations what 1 ilv gives you $in revdis. But thats just assumptions. So i would never Post them in here...
But revdis could be pretty nice.
Like if you believe illuvium will be one day in the same stage as riot or blizzard or any publisher in this league... Depending on where you live, revdis out of 100$ilv could be the same amount of money as a fulltime job

[rotund forum]

I switched from buying plots to buying the token, although I do want to play IZ I am happy with what I have. It shouldn’t become too much timeconsuming. I think there are some calculations out there which indicate land is more profitable in the very beginning, especially because only 20k plots but when userbase starts growing above 800k players it will be more lucrative to stake x2 the token

[dusty agate]

I believe illuvium can do better then those studios u mentioned.

[dusty agate]

We had a conversation here with solar, and i ve calculated in my mind that if game will earn 5X more from other sources rather then fuel stakers will get more then land owners.

[rotund forum]

Blizzard was adquired by Activision and Activision now recently by Microsoft making it a truely huge company. But who knows… they are not so keen on web3.0 and I think they will get to regret it, Illuvium will definitely grow to become a mayor player in the field

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/im-one-big-joke-to-you-you-dont-take-me-seriously-upset-take-me-seriously-robert-barone-gif-15785489

[radiant sky]

Idk, i'm always thinking they are Building web3 Games already.
These companies are just not as transparent as illuvium is, so you actually have no clue what they are doing right now

[dusty agate]

I dont know they deliver grate games, but think the idea of earning is the biggest advantage for ilv. There are whole portals people trying to trade illegally their accounts or some ingame stuff

[rotund forum]

If they are all the better for the space! But it is just that the CEO of Microsoft did make some negative comments about crypto in the past… but who knows?

[radiant sky]

A Lot of celebs did, and they changed their minds later on. But you are right. I would also don't expect them to be on Market with web3 Stuff in the Next 3 years

[dusty agate]

What do u think those guys will play when they sell their diablo accounts?:))

[radiant sky]

What is this?

[dusty agate]

Web were accounts and in game materials are traded. You can find each game and its real some people even earn money acting as a middleman

[radiant sky]

Ah i c

[dusty agate]

For example i play mcoc and someone offered 5k for my acc…not selling as i spend more 😂😂

[radiant sky]

Just make sure you sell it before illuvium goes life. You won't have time for this shit anymore then 😉

[soft flower]

The app is not yet out, right?

[vivid cipher]

Correct. When #🎮〕illuvium-zero does go live It’ll very likely start as a web app only.

[soft flower]

I've seen in one of your youtube videos that it was scheduled for 2022 Q4 on mobile, timelines and platform changed?

[vivid cipher]

I’m just a community moderator. But any timelines are best guesses. There’s no set release date. Yet.

[soft flower]

Got it, thank you, appreciate your time

[vivid cipher]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero is made to be a mobile game. It’ll just also be playable in a web browser. And when first playable it’ll still be in beta or even alpha. So having it downloaded from an App Store just seems unlikely to me.

[empty path]

“Just a community moderator” Ser, you are the almighty Pelican

[vivid cipher]

My word is NOT official. Nor are Andrew’s videos mine.

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-back-away-close-door-gif-15554720

[queen folio]

Aww haha

[neat tangle]

Does IMX allow NFT for NFT trades?

[radiant sky]

#981426698333618276

[vivid cipher]

I do not believe anything has been written for that.

[neat tangle]

Gotcha thanks. Was just gonna ask if someone wanted to swap a land for a land

[vivid cipher]

I don’t think it will be either. Trading fees is how imx makes its revenue.

Makes the L2 dream work

[dry mango]

nop

[neat tangle]

That's true but then id think eventually someone else will make an imx marketplace that would allow it. For example WAX chains marketplace also only makes their fees from buys/sells but they added a NFT trade function too because other marketplaces were popping up with the functionality

[vivid cipher]

Yeah maybe it could happen.

[queen folio]

Hmmm, how would that look for the trading fees RevDis though?

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/no-score-judging-zero-gif-13779921

[queen folio]

Everyone would just trade with each other and sales/revenue would drop a lot, I feel. Across land, illuvitars, and actual Illuvials

I honestly haven't thought much about it... that was just the first thing that popped into my head.

[neat tangle]

I don't necessarily disagree with that but like I said on other marketplaces it's already a thing so I wonder if it's inevitable

[devout elk]

Guys where can i invest into Illuvium Zero land is it still available ?

[digital light]

Illuvium Zero is not out to play yet

you can go to the IlluviDex and buy some land first

[still vine]

Are Fuel and Elements NFTs? My assumption is not but wanted to double check 😄

[undone phoenix]

My understanding which is quite old: Elementals no. Fuels should be.

But only after it’s sold to the balancer pool

[mystic umbra]

Fuel is an NFT

[fair temple]

Elements not indeed or you would be able to sell them and that was not the intention.

Are illuvium tokens NFTs? Cuz it wouldnt make sense to make non fungible tokens out of fuel. Fuel after all all is the same. No? Or are all the illuvium tokens also non fungible.

I thought for some reason that coin-tokens were slightly different from NFT tokens.

[little moon]

The fuels will be erc20 tokens last I heard and the elements won’t be tokenized.

[still vine]

I figured Fuel would be an NFT in the overworld but wasn't sure it would be in Illuvium Zero since we were intially told that we wouldn't be able to use it ourselves in the overworld.

since we sell it to the pool

So is it probably safe to say Fuel is not an NFT in IZ but is minted and sold by the DAO. I then wonder if the fuel NFT is burned in use rather than given back to the stock pile.

[little moon]

So fuel exists only on the server while it’s on your land. Once you sell from your land to the pool the fuel is minted as a fungible token and you get the ETH from your transaction on your wallet.

When buying fuel for the overworld you buy the fuel tokens as erc20 tokens that stay in your wallet until you use them in the overworld.

I think all fuel tokens that are spent will be burned. New tokens are printed by landowners and the DAO which are sold to the pool to keep prices balanced.

[still vine]

Aw this was exactly the clarification I was looking for! Thank you so much @little moon !!

[fair temple]

Dont forget that 20x the amount you sell is minted to make the 95/5% split. Though im not sure how that is added to the pool. Wouldnt liquidity be a limiting factor? 😄

[little moon]

You seem to have a bit of a misunderstanding between erc20 fungible tokens and erc 721 non fungible tokens. The difference is basically that a fungible token (fuel) is the same as any other fuel of the same type. The tokens are 100% interchangeable.
With erc721 NFTs each token is unique. Something like an Atlas NFT is not the same as another Atlas NFT so they cannot be used interchangeably.

[still vine]

Yes I will freely admit I am still learning to navigate the crypto realm and the nuances between things 😅

I appreciate the help

[tulip torrent]

Go go go

[bitter phoenix]

Very helpful

[tardy fern]

when beta comes out this chats going to be booming

[mystic umbra]

True that brother

[lilac dagger]

That’s actually good advice

[fickle ore]

I rlly hope we get an announcement on ILZ release this month 🤞

[little moon]

gm

[empty path]

Stop making it so obvious you want to get to lvl 5

[near tusk]

Quick bearz strike up a conversation with fraggy

[hollow shoal]

So whats everyone's favorite land?

[mystic gull]

[opal thistle]

Taiga ❄️ and Crystal

[hollow shoal]

Oh dang, how come? What illuvials do you want most?

[opal thistle]

Loving the Polar Bear line and of course the Slashin 🐧🔪

[hollow shoal]

Will both be highly sought after. I truly hope they have some cool skins. A nice blue Mozart will be nice or some sleek armor with icicles sticking out.

[lyric hamlet]

What's the word?

Any dates?

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-dance-familyguy-vghjcjjdd-gif-5874592

[lyric hamlet]

🥱

[lyric hamlet]

When?

Will zero have a global chat?

[empty path]

When there is a date it will be posted in #📣〕announcements

[empty path]

I don't think so

[lyric hamlet]

Would be nice to talk to some people while playing it. Like by zones and stuff

🤔 not that hard to throw a line of code for it

[woeful gate]

ILZ release has to be soon, right??? 🤣

[glad relic]

one question

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[glad relic]

calm bro its not that

in the alpha will it be possible to send resources from one land to another?

[empty path]

Afaik you need to sell them to a pool. There was some rumours this would be possible in mega cities.

[glad relic]

but in game i cant send hydrogen from my land in cristals to my land in crimson ?

[empty path]

I'm checking the files right now but I don't think so. Give me a min to read and see if I can find something

[fair temple]

Megacities will be played as one big plot so all resources are shared between the 4/9 lands. Sending is not necessary.

[glad relic]

i saw like roads for a megacitys

[empty path]

Yes

[fossil galleon]

Don’t think so from what I’ve seen. Would be great if you could. Especially for the T1’s when you generally won’t have all the resources on the plot.

[fair temple]

But never was it said that Alpha would have megacities. They had some difficulties with the 100x100 plots and 150x150 plots since they take up much more graphic space on mobile.

[fossil galleon]

Are there any details on how resource conversions will work?

[lapis gulch]

The idea for lands that don't have all resource types is to have a converter building, which allows you to get access to all 3 elements.

You can deduce that exchanging one element for another will be at a loss.

This is because element landmarks say that they reduce such conversion losses.

[fossil galleon]

Ah ok I’d hadn’t seen that. So a % loss in the conversion process. Plus I presume some conversion time as well that is not yet known.

[lapis gulch]

Maybe it'll also take time. I'm not sure. The way I understand it it will just be more bothersome to play with conversion. This will give some value to lands with better access to multiple elements. I don't think there's any problem with that.

[fossil galleon]

Yep agree no problem - it’s part of the game and land value. Just thinking ahead

[lapis gulch]

If you're still deciding what to go into and like micro optimisations. I'd say go for max diversity in elements and if you want to take it a step further and it's not costing much, having fuel/element sites clumped up could also provide boost in production, because of proximity bonuses.

[near tusk]

Oh god there’s proximity bonuses now? How close and what’s the bonus?

[fair temple]

We dont know what the bonuses are. And proximity bonus was said to occur for convertors that you placed close to extraction points.

But im not sure if it really matters whether you have all extraction points close to each other or spread out.
Is one really great converter better than 3 pretty good ones?

[near tusk]

Oh god let’s find out hopefully this week

[coarse tide]

hi all, where is best top look at gameplay releases for this? any recs for best vidsto watch?

[empty path]

#🚰〕leaks and the leak streams on Twitch are pretty good

Oh and if you mean gameplay videos for Illuvium Zero, I don't think those are available at the moment but there is some stuff in the pinned messages

[little moon]

This is the game?

[coarse tide]

thanks, yes gameplay for Zero, harvesting etc,

[little moon]

Like harvest moon?

[mystic gull]

This is the game for ILV land, there is other 2 games (Autobattler and Overworld)

[brisk stump]

pretty nice 😄

[coarse tide]

how will the blueprints be found on ILZ? Excuse my ignorance

[fair temple]

In illuvium Zero,
Every X time you can scan with the singularity scanner.
When you scan you get biodata.

In the research lab you can research the biodata.
After paying a fee and a timer, you enter a gacha system where you get

1. Nothing.
2. An illuvial Fact that is interesting on its own and boosts future blueprint acquisition chances
3. A blueprint.

With the blueprint you can add it to your wallet and then move to the overworld to gather the materials, illuvial and equipment to forge it.
In the overworld you capture the designated illuvial, gather the resources to make the skin and ready your equipment.
First you craft the skin. You literally kill the illuvial, and put together a skin with resources and the illuvial's remains. Then you grab your equipment and smear out the corpse across the equipment for the desired effect.
Voila, the beautiful process of skinning items explained

[coarse tide]

Great thanks @fair temple

Sounds nasty LOL #savetheilluvials

[near tusk]

holy that sounds amazingly brutal

[near tusk]

so thats not actually a meme

thats really how its done

[tardy fern]

@empty path how many lands you in charge of now bro? must be atleast half the supply 😆

[empty path]

I don't know

[tardy fern]

might become your full time gig

[wary prism]

Is it still 3 illuvials you need to burn for a skin? I know there was some talk of reducing it to 1 but I don't think that was ever confirmed. 3 is the only way it makes sense to guarantee that an illuvial never goes extinct, which is something that has been mentioned consistently.

[fair temple]

burning 3 axodon for a single axodon skin was too much. So while i understand 3 stage 1 illuvials, you will not need 3 Stage 3 illuvials to burn.
Let me search for the talk i had with Aaron about that

#💬〕general message

[wary prism]

I think that was the conversation I was thinking of, but I just wanted to check as Aaron said this is "probably" not the case. And the latest video Artemis put up used the example of 27 ramphys to get a ramphyre skin. Fingers crossed its not that much 🙂

[fair temple]

yeah Illuvialmaster has been mentioning the 3 illuvials per skin but that was never confirmed 🤞

[timber sapphire]

What do you mean with pushing?

[fair temple]

they have been mentioning it* pardon bad wording.

[frozen verge]

Hey guys sorry brand new here.. if I buy land today, am I able to start using it to mind resources? Thank you!

[dry mango]

not yet, only when the main game is released will the FUELs system be implemented in a fiduciary way, but in the alpha it will be possible to obtain blueprints

[frozen verge]

Thank you! So if I’m not invited to the beta, my only option is to purchase land and stake ILV tokens at the moment?

[dry mango]

You don't need lands or ILV to play, but if you want to "invest" in the project these are the direct ways right now

[frozen verge]

Awesome. Appreciate your time.

[mortal smelt]

GM landlords eggs benedict anyone?

[queen folio]

Eggs benedict?! 👀

What kind of eggs....

[lusty breach]

Hey @amber atlas any chance you show us Shardbluff zone in IZ? I have T4 in Shardbluff and that is the only zone we haven't seen yet. Thanks!

[tight kestrel]

wow a lot of illuvials gonna be sacrificed to get one skin, thats sad

[tulip torrent]

iz plz🔥

[tight kestrel]

poor little atlas

[timber sapphire]

Atlas burgers wen

[urban laurel]

When iz release? Been a couple months now, not very good

[lusty breach]

Where can i track sales of IZ lands?

[fickle ore]

Token trove

[waxen token]

Hey — is there a secondary market for ilv land?

[mystic gull]

yes, you can use #🔗〕helpful-links to find it in illuvidex

[empty path]

Yes, you can check the Illuvidex. (Link in #🔗〕helpful-links )

[radiant sky]

Fraggy getting slow... To less coffee today?

[urban lodge]

I could only find for sale on the immutable x site

[empty path]

I'm getting interviewed in DMs
I'm trying, ok

[radiant sky]

Illuvidex -> Trade explore

[waxen token]

Thanks - and pardon my noobness. Is there a place for me to research the relative rarity of items on any plot of land?

[radiant sky]

Multitasking? I always thought it's a myth people can do that.

[radiant sky]

Not to my knowledge

[empty path]

How can it be a myth, you know I have a job outside of Illuvium right? 😄

[rotund reef]

Do not believe

[empty path]

lol

[radiant sky]

I heared about that rumor. But the output required for this job is maybe not that high?

[waxen token]

Anything I can research to know wtf a crypton rift is?

[empty path]

It is

[mystic gull]

https://infoluvial.io/iz-resources/

[radiant sky]

I would recommend reading the medium article about Landsale or read the iip for landsale. Some good additional Info about Land there

[waxen token]

Thanks, and to be sure there’s been no mention of relative value of each landmark, element or fuel?

[radiant sky]

Your real name is lieutenant commander data ? No other explanation comes into my mind then 😂

[empty path]

How old are you?

[fair temple]

i'm going to send you a DM 😏

[radiant sky]

Physically too old... Mentally too young

[radiant sky]

😱 what did i do wrong?

[mystic gull]

There has been no talks of it

[fair temple]

I couldn't... Well i sent you a friend request then

[waxen token]

Thanks for all the help. Last question : was 100% of land sale rev redistributed to ilv holders? Or just a portion?

[empty path]

100% of the ETH was used for revdis
100% of sILV2 used in the land sale got burned

[waxen token]

Word. Yes. Thanks for that. Bonus question 🙂 —- do we know the ratio of the $72M?

[empty path]

I believe that was posted in #📣〕announcements

[hollow shoal]

Nope disagree, you live here.

[waxen token]

Pardon my ignorance here, but wasn’t 100% of in game revenue to be used for revenue distribution? Only look like 10% was.

[lapis gulch]

How did you arrive at those 10%? I have a guess that you were expecting sILV2 spent to be distributed. But sILV2 gets burned instead.

[waxen token]

Yea I just mathed wrong. Looks like 90% of funds used were silv.

[opal thistle]

#📣〕announcements message

[queen ore]

guys i been away for a while so sorry if this has already been asked, is ILV ZERO alpha live yet? or is there a date when we can start playing?

[queen folio]

Hey Whoj-- nope, no date just yet! Latest updates from the team can be found in the pinned messages of this channel and now we're awaiting additional updates 🙂

[gaunt gyro]

Wen zero?

[vivid cipher]

No alpha launch date has been set yet.

[modern umbra]

anyone know mint price of each tier?

or what the price will be for the next batch of land sales?

[brisk plume]

did dev blog drop yet?

[mystic gull]

#💬〕general message

[fossil galleon]

It was a Dutch auction so there wasn’t a set mint price, only starting prices for each tier that then decreased until it was bought. Medium article explaining the process: https://medium.com/illuvium/51-land-sale-explained-8cbadfb6a6b5

[humble lichen]

lmao

[mystic gull]

@lyric hamlet have something to say? why all those poop emojis with no reason?

@lyric hamlet #✍〕rules

[radiant sky]

Do a discord search of his posts and you know why.
Probably just an impatient kid who has a bored time right now

[mystic gull]

still needs to follow rules

[radiant sky]

Indeed. Pretty sure he gets banned or muted soon

[spark ruin]

any news on the release date of the mobile game?

[queen folio]

No dates yet-- latest updates from the team can be found in the pinned messages though ⬆️

[tulip torrent]

iz plz🔥

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[fickle ore]

Is it still looking like September we are getting an ILZ announcement on release? I know the last month we've been told we would get an update in September, all the best.

[queen folio]

Johnny has made some comments regarding ILZ status throughout the month. We've pinned some of those updates in this channel too!

[hollow shoal]

Can’t fucking wait. I can’t wait to see what blueprints everyone gets.

[topaz mauve]

There will be only 5 in alpha

[glad relic]

only 5 bp?

[cinder willow]

Next year

[topaz mauve]

Yes

[glad relic]

x region or total?

[topaz mauve]

Total

It's alpha, we need to wait for a full release. This is something like "thank you" for early testers.

[hollow shoal]

Where is the confirmation for this? What a bummer.

[topaz mauve]

Somewhere in this chat above

Why bummer, it's alpha. Did you expect to farm all blueprint until the game is released?

All buildings and everything will be destroyed before the open beta. The fact that we will be able to get some blueprints is already a good thing.

I do agree that it sucks to wait overall. I know some people bought lands at a very high price and not being able to do anything with them is discouraging, but what to do.

Let's hope the developers will support early adopters somehow.

[hollow shoal]

I mean the rumor was 1,000 blueprints. So to learn it’s 5 from 1,000 is the bummer. Still excited regardless. Only those who participate in alpha then will have these so that’s cool.

[topaz mauve]

I do agree with the idea of f2p and everyone to be equal in the beggining, but I am also not super happy with the fact that we are not rewarded after investing a lot. What to do. The only hope that the actual value of these lands will be higher and it will pay off.

[topaz mauve]

Yeah, but they will be available for anyone who has the land. The key thing for us to hope is that they don't do a next land sale soon.

They said they will do one when the initial land owners will be rewarded, but it's still vague.

[hollow shoal]

Next land sale could be extremely far away

Or if they get too many people playing it could be a month after release lol

[topaz mauve]

Yes, a speculation though.

[hollow shoal]

All depends on fuel needs. Imagine trying to get a single fuel and it just never on sale because it’s all being bought immediately. I hope we never have to experience that.

[thin wolf]

Where did you see that?

[topaz mauve]

@fair temple summoning you.

[fair temple]

hey!

[rancid lion]

I think the biggest problem is if there's only 5 blueprints and 20,000 lands owned, and all land owners are able to play alpha, then everyone will have the same 5 blueprints, making them practically worthless. If anything those would then be the most common BPs in the entirety of the game.

[topaz mauve]

Am I wrong or not re: 5 blueprints? I have read it here.

[fair temple]

i'm summoned and i agree with the amount of blueprints being limited to 5 unique ones in the alpha. ~around 5. maybe 6-10 but it will be close to 5.

There was a conversation between Jag and Johnny* about that 🙂

[thin wolf]

it is ment to be a reward for testing the game before launch,but i thought it was more than 5 BP

[topaz mauve]

Thanks Garf.

[still vine]

lol Garf is a geni

[radiant sky]

They are not Alpha exclusive i think. As far as i remember Johnny stated it once

[topaz mauve]

Hahaha, yeah, I remember that convo

2k? No, like 5 😄

[rancid lion]

Understood, but it's not much of a reward if everyone has the same participation trophy. Neat to have, but not valuable.

"like 5" is ambiguous enough I'm going to round that up to 1000

[hollow shoal]

Thank you Garf, welp still excited lol

I will still make the skins from these and sell them for some sort of profit lol

[topaz mauve]

Excited too. We should all be waiting for Overworld development, not land zero tbh. As when Overworld is ready, everything will be ready.

[radiant sky]

I hope there is some data available, Like how man Lands are actually played in Alpha. Depending on that, i'm gona instant sell my bp's 😅

[thin wolf]

there are 6400 Land owners,probably alot less than that,also big owner wont be able to play all their lands.

[fair temple]

the alpha will be there to give you that feel of being an OG. 🙂 isn't that the best thing?

[rancid lion]

Big landowners including Kieran are organizing mafias to play their lands.

[thin wolf]

like i have land plots scattered over 4 wallets now to build a MC and i not alone

[dry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/asi-mismo-speechless-idk-gif-15401060

[thin wolf]

How?unless you have massive trust in the person.,

[hollow shoal]

My hope is that they have a counter of X/X you got blueprint 125/353. Obviously the max number would increase as more and more become available

[thin wolf]

Polemos have 700 plots,there is no way they can play those effectivley.

[hollow shoal]

I need more land apparently

[rancid lion]

It's going to be built in.

Land is in wallet, on the game side it's connected/assigned to an account. Then player logs in with account info. That's my guess. It's the same way Axies had scholarships.

[thin wolf]

not for Alpha

[dry mango]

DAO will still produce most of the FUELs so there is no way to monopolize production even with many plots

[rancid lion]

hey I signed up for Kieran's and said "you better make sure built in trust is ready!"

[radiant sky]

This Feature ist not available i think, not even from a third party

[radiant sky]

Sadly this is true 😂

[thin wolf]

Illuvium is not building out Land renting,it would be a 3rd party like Polemos.no incentive to get that out for alpha.

[fair temple]

they better hurry up. i want to play on Kieran's lands 🙂

[thin wolf]

did you signe up with Fraggy?

[hollow shoal]

Alright so 5 BPs everyone. If you don’t want yours I’ll take it :p

[fair temple]

of course! ( though idk if i actually made the cut. But i hope i will xD)

[thin wolf]

She needs all the help she can get😃

[rancid lion]

Kieran has talked about renting but called it lending. The wording makes it sound like Illuvium has it planned.

Trust me, I agree with you that it sounds far fetched it will be ready for alpha or beta, or even right at release. But it's been stated it is a feature.

[thin wolf]

i asked him awhile back,let me see if i can find it.

[rancid lion]

As the largest landowner I think he has a vested interest in making sure the feature is out else he will lose his own profit once revenue turns on. But yeah alpha? I doubt it.

[rotund reef]

LOL, no it's not. If (and only if) those rumors are true, it's a giant letdown. If there's only 5, and everyone is likely going get one or more, then there's not a whole lot special about them.

[fair temple]

they partnered up with Polemos i think for the reason of creating the lending structure. But I haven't got a clue on the progress 😄

[rancid lion]

That would be cool. But how does that work? How does a third party make a lending structure and have it tied in, in a seamless way, to like Illuvidex?

[thin wolf]

Kieran does not care about short term gains for an Alpha,

[fair temple]

no, isn't that the entire idea about playing the alpha? It's a thank you for playing, but it isn't going to be worth a whole lot.
If you thought you'd get rich for playing alpha and getting early access to play a game then you thought wrong 😄

[rancid lion]

OK so officially outsourced, as in as a partner.

So give Polemos enough developmental keys to make the features.

[queen folio]

I guess that's what is in the works on the back end with whoever that 3rd party may be

[thin wolf]

@ivory vine Would love to hear your thoughts on this?