🎮〕illuvium-zero

[compact nebula]

Im interested to know too

[radiant sky]

Have a Look into the pinned messages, guys 🙂

[chilly lintel]

So we keep watching our parcels like a paper jpeg ?

[hot bronze]

no... you can print it out if you like.

could set it to pfp... tempted 😉

but Alpha for land holders soon per recent pins

[glad junco]

Oh that we all knew my man! ✊

Also:
Oooff dude. I just scrolled through the convo and This isn’t my day! Basically being told by 2 big daddy devs that I’m gonna lose to the likes of @thin wolf - really hit me in the plums man.
@cinder valve you didn’t have to add “never seen before close” 😂

Went total D trump on me today 😦

[amber atlas]

the tutorial doesn't teach this right now (actually it sort of tries to but poorly) ... one of the several reasons it needs to be reworked... to be clear efficiency of the buildings is shown in the UI, and you can move buildings for free* to try different combinations
(*there has been some talk of adding a small time but not resource cost to moving, but for Alpha this won't be changed)

[empty path]

Thanks for hopping in @amber atlas

[glad junco]

Also can someone tell me the price of SILV? 😂

[amber atlas]

it should also be noted that the micro management game of optimizing efficiency isn't going to provide major advantages/disadvantages... that is to say the goal is for it to be fairly easy to get to reasonably efficient setup... the depth is for those who want to eek out the extra percentage

of course if you intentionally break the rules (or put no though in to it at all ), like putting a scanner in the middle of your most heavily built up area, you could hamper yourself

[rotund reef]

I hope people see this, because everyone is going to ask these questions once the game is out.

[radiant sky]

Hopefully a hard working mod will pin it @empty path ? 👀

[empty path]

Too many different messages

[hollow shoal]

I am extremely lost. So no tutorial means we get the game sooner? However a walk through may be provided? :)))

[thin wolf]

Sure thing buddy, current price is 28.33$😀

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-cliff-booth-brad-pitt-sorry-not-sorry-not-sorry-gif-26014984

[hearty cradle]

johnny, since you are here

i collected some questions about the BP and research progress :

1. (lookscommon) Can we mint the BP during alpha? prob to trade them?
2. Does the BP in alpha include Tier 1 - Tier 5?
3. Do we need to burn BP to upgrade the research tree?
4. If the answer to no. 2 and 3, is no, does it mean we can hoard/trade T1-T5 BP from alpha, and then use those BPs to upgrade the research tree in open beta?
5. Does each plot in the same wallet share the same research tree? Or each plot has its own research tree?
6. What would happen to the research tree if the plot is sold?
7. Can we bind the research tree to Illuvium account?
8. (Garf) Is the chance of getting the exact same BP on one plot stays the same? or will the chance drop? (bonding curve)

[lusty breach]

Hey Johnny, one more question that was bothering me for some time. What happens to land progress when the land is sold?

[empty path]

Once the game is running on the blockchain, buildings already build will remain on the land.

[lusty breach]

If that is the case, are there any plans to allow viewing the land in Illuvidex to know what has been built on the land you are trying to buy?

[hearty cradle]

last time johnny said we cant atm

[lusty breach]

I guess it is going to be implemented later on as it feels like a pretty crucial feature.

[amber atlas]

a lot of those have been answered but...

1. (lookscommon) Can we mint the BP during alpha? prob to trade them
Still as per the IIP. Minting is not available day 1 but there will be a 1.1 version between alpha and open beta which allows BP minting

2. Does the BP in alpha include Tier 1 - Tier 5?
No. T1 only.

3. Do we need to burn BP to upgrade the research tree?
No.

4. If the answer to no. 2 and 3, is no, does it mean we can hoard/trade T1-T5 BP from alpha, and then use those BPs to upgrade the research tree in open beta?

Burning BPs is not a thing ( I mena you can send the NFT to a null address, and who knows what the future holds, but its not urrently part of the core mechanic).

The research tree is not a thing, there was one diagram that was vaguely tree like, maybe someone mentioned it in an AMA after seeing that diagram... but the research tree is not a thing. See the original research game design which I think is still pinned in this channel. The state of research is the Blueprints you have stored in your databank, and the Illuvials facts you have discovered. The only relationship between blueprints is you need (in your data bank) Stage 1 to get Stage 2 and Stage 2 to get Stage 3.

You can better at research by doing more research and discovering Illuvial facts. You unlock higher stage items by having researched the lower.

5. Does each plot in the same wallet share the same research tree? Or each plot has its own research tree?

The research tree isn't a thing, but plots that aren't megacities are independent in every way (at least for now).

*6. What would happen to the research tree if the plot is sold? *

(The research tree isn't a thing), research state is something that currently doesn't persist on a plot if sold. Think of it like you sell the buildings but you wipe your data banks. However ...

7. Can we bind the research tree to Illuvium account?

(The research tree isn't a thing), research state will be something we look to attach to an account in some way. But we don't have that mechanism yet.

8. (Garf) Is the chance of getting the exact same BP on one plot stays the same? or will the chance drop? (bonding curve)

If you have the blueprint in your databank or wallet you can't get it again.

But if the question is about the overall chance then currently it stays the same but this will probably change. Aaron and I have spoken about using a bonding curve, but we haven't finalised a mechanism.

[hearty cradle]

wow thank you johnny

[hearty cradle]

yea, the building progress should affect price

[hearty cradle]

thanks fraggy

[amber atlas]

can you pin my message rather than yours

I'm still making updates for correctness and clarity

[coarse valve]

Why BP in alpha includes only Tier 1?😮

[empty path]

But then people don't see the questions

[hearty cradle]

so that means all we have to do is to collect as many blueprints as possible to scan for higher tiers BP

[coarse valve]

sorry Fraggy wrong tag

[amber atlas]

the blueprinst in alpha are a small thank you for the testers, they were never intended to be anything more...

[hearty cradle]

so people wont front run progress

imagine if people have collected T1-T5 in alpha

theres nothing to play in open beta

[amber atlas]

more than than that, the alpha has a server log of player actions, but it is not server authoritative... we will do some basic cheat detection before minting, but we can't rely on it for serious value

this is considered fine for the T1s in the alpha becasue the expectation is with a little bit of effort a land holder can get all of them... trying to cheat the system is more work than just playing the game, and you run the risk of missing out because your cheating gets detected

[dusty agate]

I d be very happy if u let everyone get them. Not sure what are the chances in % to get one. Small thank for testing and plus investing and waiting.

[hearty cradle]

what kind of cheating are we looking at?

[amber atlas]

as per above, you have to play the game to get them, but it shouldn' tbe too arduous to get them all

[coarse valve]

right thank you I got confused with the tiers of the land

[amber atlas]

I don't think discussing cheating in detail in a public forum is a good idea

[hearty cradle]

how many Tier 1 BP is available for the alpha?

[dusty agate]

I dont think someone who bought land will gonna cheat. I d ban them forever. Leave only ability to sell land.

[amber atlas]

in a blockchain world it is a little tricker than that

[hearty cradle]

like 2k BPs?

[hearty cradle]

maybe like exploit, people will find exploits especially when money is involved

[amber atlas]

no, like 5

[empty path]

Lol that sounds a bit high

[hearty cradle]

i remember we will have like 10k BP in total

[dusty agate]

I mean it will be hard for those who own T1, like theres no ability to speed up progress, still if there was one its useless as progress gonna be deleted

[amber atlas]

the intent is that with a reasonable amount of play every holder can get all the alpha BPs

[hearty cradle]

i think 5 bp is very achieveable

[amber atlas]

its hard to judge the balance, but if it looks too hard, then we will tweak it during the alpha

[dusty agate]

🥳🥳

[amber atlas]

we will have speed-up coins in the alpha

[hearty cradle]

sounds like getting a bp is very hard

[amber atlas]

(no cost... just a random amount each day)

[lusty breach]

5 blueprints in alpha?

[dusty agate]

Sound good and fair. Thanx Johnny

[amber atlas]

it might be 10, we might do 2 per Illuvial (that you can scan in Alpha)

but definitely not more

[lusty breach]

those will be bought with eth in final relase?

[hearty cradle]

good question, eth and/or silv2?

or fiat?

[amber atlas]

IAP/sILV2/ETH

[hearty cradle]

IAP?

[amber atlas]

from the assocaited store

[hearty cradle]

appstore?

[amber atlas]

if we are lucky this will be enough to get us in to the play store/app stores.... but still no so hopeful on Apple

[empty path]

whut

[dusty agate]

Alpha BP will be like exclusive or they can be found after full game release?

[lusty breach]

how many BPs total are there gonna be in final release? 150 illuvials, 1 BP per Illuvial or more? I don't get where the 10k number comes from.

[amber atlas]

no plan for them to be exclusive, although if we go with the boding curve and say 20k of them are discovered, then they will be quite rare reltive to other T1s (bonding curve decision is not finalised)

[dusty agate]

That would be grate, even if there will be small amount like that.

[amber atlas]

did you read the research GDD?

[lusty breach]

Nope, didn't know we had one

for Illuvium Zero

[amber atlas]

there is a research GDD and a scanning GDD pinned in channel

a few bits of info are straight-up out of date (e.g. weapons are no longer skinnable)

but for the most part they are still accurate

[lusty breach]

Perfect, found it

thanks a lot

[hearty cradle]

so it's 20K bp

thats a lot of work

[desert pilot]

every unit can have like 10 skins

or 20-50 or whatever

[hearty cradle]

i cant imagine how the art team gonna do it? like generative 3D art?

[amber atlas]

the exact number isn't defined, Aaron is still working out some details of what is and isn't skinnable

[amber atlas]

skins are effects and textures that can be applied to a number of models

[hearty cradle]

i know a few 3D pfp NFT project that do 15k and 10k collection

[dusty agate]

And how much for alpha, ?

[hearty cradle]

5

[amber atlas]

(or maybe 10 )

[dusty agate]

10k?

[lusty breach]

Holy shit, i thought BPs are only for armor but they are for weapons too!

[hearty cradle]

no, its only for armor

guys keep up

lol

[amber atlas]

no they are not for weapons

[lusty breach]

ahh

[amber atlas]

it used to be armor and weapons, but then weapons got tied to the affinity, and thus it made it pretty impossible to skin in a meaningful way

if you already have a green nature sword, what happens if you skin it with ramphyre skin

going to look stupid

[dusty agate]

It would be good, for example if we could swap 2 same type BP in one random. Is that possible, i mean not now but after everything is done

[amber atlas]

so we dropped weapon skinning

[hearty cradle]

make sense

[amber atlas]

Aaron still owes me some extra skinnable items for taking away my skinnable weapons 😉

so I guess overall its good, more items in the game 🙂

[hearty cradle]

m0z4rt and g4ud1 skin

[dusty agate]

Jaggy wants to skin every single item ingame 😂😅

[hearty cradle]

skin is the top gaming revenue of all time

followed by pets and mounts

[dusty agate]

Yeh thats why i said that addition of pets and mounts will be good in future…

[amber atlas]

(@empty path I've added questions to answers)

[empty path]

I pinned it already

[amber atlas]

yep was just replying to your previous point about not being able to associate the answers with the questions

[empty path]

Ah ok, I get it, sorry 😅

Thank you

[sly summit]

thanks for answering Johnny

[dusty agate]

Yeh thanx.

[amber atlas]

in any case I need to head off, got some dinner to eat and meetings to attend, but I'm getting back in to Zero so I should be around a lot more in this channel, particularly after crypto con

[grizzled remnant]

mmh would have been funny in long term (with more illuvial). to have nature shield that can be skinned by a nature illuvial skin. Affinity weapon can be skinned by same affinity illuvial 😉

[thin wolf]

So, when can we have a look at the Research tree?

[sly summit]

Soon

[empty path]

There is no research tree

[worn scaffold]

Thanks a lot for being here and your explanations!

A couple of days ago we made a proposal for the future. What’s your point of view on this?

This proposal is made from ILV Zero (land owners).

From this proposal we would like to talk about the future vision, land revenue's and emerging sales.

At the moment there is some dissatisfaction when it comes to the revenue's that can be made from having a piece of land. At the moment 5% of the fuel is obtained by the landowners and the other 95% goes back to the stakers. This is written in the DAO, and also in view of a future proposal I don't think this is going to change.

Now, besides the fuel, there are many other ways to make it more attractive for the landowners. This discussion was recently held in the ILV Z channel and some great ideas came out of it - I will list them below:

1. Creating skins/limited skins that can only be found by land owners. Not everyone will be able to find the skin in question, as they are limited, but this will create an extra fun factor in having land. If you find a limited skin, it will give you an extra boost on your revenue.
2. Pets; in many games you see that having extras is a nice addition to the game. Besides the 'I must have' feeling, a pet could also give the owner extra bonuses, for example in the open world. Also, these pets can only be crafted/found as Land Owner.
3. Illuvial skins. The landowner will have the ability to craft special skins for the illuvials. During a christmas event, you as landowner have the chance to find a special skin for your illuvial, think for example of a christmas cape. This christmas cape can then be worn by your illuvial during a battle.
4. Balancer NFTs and promotional skins
5. All other future 'items to add' that can only be made by land owners.

In my opinion, the above three points could already give an extra boost to the confidence and future revenue of a landowner. From Illuvium's point of view, I also think you would do well to take this into consideration, as currently 20% of all land has been sold and in view of future sales this is going to benefit Illuvium's vault.

I would very much appreciate it (and I think several land owners) that once a session (in chat or voice) will be organized where we can exchange ideas with each other.

[thin wolf]

I know, just thought it was funny how many times Johhny had to write it😀

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carrell-unamused-meh-gif-16391448

[hot bronze]

Beetle juice, Beetle juice, Beetle Solar

[analog inlet]

@amber atlas this was already brought I disagree with giving anything "exclusive" to land owners or any changes that directly affect ILV stakeholders or Overworld players directly / indirectly . IL0 primary income was income was based on 5% ilv fuel related sales . This is all that was promised and agreed to by the IIP.

[worn scaffold]

You have alerts on my posts ser?

First of all, you are not a landowner. Second, this won’t affect ILV stakeholders / overworld players like I said earlier. And is still just a proposal which can be adjusted….

Besides; im also an ILV staker 🙂

[analog inlet]

The fact that i am not a landowner is completely irrelevant in the context of my concern

[worn scaffold]

But that is directly the reason why you stop everything when it comes to proposals for ilv zero 😉

[amber atlas]

almost bed time for me, but just quickly ... certainly there is no reason not to add more ways for landholders to generate NFTS and other tokens, but they also need to make sense in terms of the game and the Illuvium universe

blueprints were part of the original IIP and are already exclusive to land holders, so I can't say I agree that we shouldn't ever add other exclusive items

[worn scaffold]

But looking to the future, I can imagine that quite a lot could start to be added to the gameplay of zero and overworld. Of course, this could be invested in ilv zero, for example. How do you see this?

[amber atlas]

its difficult to have this conversation without talking about value and price, which is something core contributors shouldn't be doing, but at a high-level the general idea (discussed quite deeply when the IIP was being propsoed and shortly after it was agreed) was that blueprints were high variance and Fuel was low variance

[empty path]

Don't bother Johnny, soon they will make an IIP to decide how much they will earn in the 5th game Illuvium studios is going to produce

[amber atlas]

I'm not sure that so much of the focus should be skins, blueprints are already tied to skins, I'd be interested to see if we could create a value generating mechanism that was tied to IZ itself

fair warning the below is all (gonig to be) conjecture, please don't quote stuff back to me in 3 months like it was an agreed feature 😛

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[amber atlas]

so one of the huge areas we have for exploration is ways for landholders to benefit from free (non land holding) players

[worn scaffold]

Hehe thanks! I would love to have a brainstorm session in the future with other land owners 🙂

[amber atlas]

so for example structure skins or functional expansions that can be created by land holders (to be clear i mean things like add-ons to buildings that make the building look or function differently)

but usable by all IZ players

[spring jetty]

i have a feeling creating thousands of skins will take a very long time, and that will affect when ob comes out

[worn scaffold]

Thanks for your time @amber atlas

[amber atlas]

one of the functional expansions mentioned in the original GDD was ways to change how the game plays ... i.e. if you are not a very active player you might like to have more passive Fuel generation

[spring jetty]

we gonna start the game with 10 times more skins than LoL lol

[amber atlas]

or if you are super active you might like to have Fuel harvesting activities that happen really quickly (you have to click a lot more, but at the end you get a little extra Fuel)

so imagine these functional expansions could only be manufactured by land holders, maybe they also have to be discovered, or unlocked through some other means (possibly complicated, rare, expensive, etc)

so you could set up a factory to build parts for other people factory

---

not saying this is THE idea, but this KIND of idea I think is a lot more interesting than just more skins

[empty path]

Can we just launch it before we start changing stuff? 😅

[spring jetty]

Fraggy is dying to play

[amber atlas]

100% future features

I'm not saying this is part of launch (and obviously not Alpha 😉 )

it is sometimes fun to think about what could be, haven't done it for a while 😉

[empty path]

I got 230+ plots to build, let's end my social life

[spring jetty]

I knew it! you whale

[amber atlas]

@empty path targetted idea ... structures that help you manage multiple plots ...

[mystic gull]

and you could use a possible future feature Fraggy to click spam and get more fuel

[empty path]

Goodbye Scholars, I'm doing this solo

[spring jetty]

Fraggy is my new sugar mommy

[amber atlas]

anyways, enough with the conjecture train, please allow me to say again:

.... sleep time!

[empty path]

Don't worry guys, I'll delete those posts

we can use it against him

[worn scaffold]

Totally agree! As I also described above, it is only a proposal, after all there was some discontent about having land and what it might bring.

Personally, I am glad that there is also active thinking about the future developments at ilv zero.

I wonder what it will all look like later on, I was hopeful and have become even more hopeful.

Good night!

[empty path]

Goodnight Johnny

[hearty cradle]

funny that non-iz holder is so concern about iz

[spring jetty]

who

[dusty agate]

Think Fraggy muted him for this conversation :))

[spring jetty]

[hearty cradle]

solar

[spring jetty]

lol, you know they say know thy enemy

[empty path]

Stop spreading false information

[dusty agate]

I said i think 😂

[queen folio]

Oi-- the in-laws came into town this weekend and of course while I'm out, Johnny comes in and chats up a storm!

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-9644850

[dusty agate]

We might see that, interesting :))

[hot bronze]

Haha

[dire pier]

thanks johnny, good stuff

[dire pier]

So megacities ARE functional for the alpha? We will be able to manage them as one gigantic plot?

[median rose]

that's what i would like to know too

[teal mural]

Na they are still working on that

[teal mural]

I’m loving the head start us early adopters are going to get. Big risk Big reward

[lusty breach]

The head start is actually pretty small

[austere whale]

Alot of good read

[glad junco]

SOOOOO Johnny kinda went HAM on the unscheduled impromptu AMA yesterday huh? 😂

[glad junco]

Happy to lose (but not conceding yet) 😂

[wooden portal]

all lands in alpha 1.1 T1-T5 can scan a BP tier 1 right?

[worn scaffold]

Yes

[wooden portal]

Good

[worn scaffold]

Infoluvial will make a nice summary very soon I guess.

[hollow vault]

real estate agency structure to lend out plots 🤣

people put in a % fuel share bid, then you accept it

[agile marlin]

when game? when lambo?

😛

[mystic umbra]

still sound like a mini game Solar?

[radiant sky]

who are you to dare to disturb him while he puts on an iip that prevents future features from making money in ilz 🤪

[undone phoenix]

What a conversation today. Thanks Johnny 😍

[dusty agate]

I believe in Johnny, he will let us play sooner then soon.

[hearty cradle]

please dnt wake the token hoarding dragon

[empty path]

Please stop the bullying

[mortal smelt]

IZ land will have multiple use cases it’s amazing!

[hearty cradle]

100% utility

[dusty agate]

Stoped

[hearty cradle]

tbf i feel uncomfortable with his comments

[dusty agate]

I actually like him ❤️ thats just a joke 🙂

[hearty cradle]

id like to make a formal complaint

[empty path]

DM @whole spear

[hearty cradle]

will do

i mean its fine if people are complaining about it

but not driving potential buyers from it

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/pot-kettle-hello-the-hypocrisy-zone-gif-14537828

[hearty cradle]

i love his conviction i really do

i got screenshots too fraggy

[dusty agate]

None will buy land if they read commets 😂

[hearty cradle]

i witnessed 2 buyers got turned away

[empty path]

Are they related to Illuvium Zero?

[whole spear]

That’s funny lol

What happened now

[hearty cradle]

yes

[whole spear]

Today started off so good

[hearty cradle]

fraggy said something in general about me bullying solar

i feel bulldozed by his remarks lol

[empty path]

and jaganite said you told him to do it?

[hearty cradle]

no

i thouht this was about the cult

#799010390201466880

we had a launch party earlier

[mortal smelt]

We as a Illuvium ecosystem need to come together with ideas that could improve “our” game. Whether it be IZ or other game mechanics should be welcomed by everyone for the sake of synergy.

[neat tangle]

I would personally rather the value IZ holders generate correlate more with the actual illuvium game rather than geared towards f2p IZ players. I personally don't see f2p players getting too invested in IZ. I think basically everyone agrees the full game is what has the most mass appeal and would much rather the things we build towards in IZ are things that players can use in the full game like more nfts or skins or something of that sort

[undone phoenix]

Don’t agree. It’s different genres, and nothing wrong with making a game more interesting and fun

[neat tangle]

I don't have anything against making the game more interesting but to think that we would get more value from non land owners in IZ than we would from creating something for the actual game is just inaccurate imo

[hearty cradle]

we still need to figure out what to do with elements after we maxed out buildings

[mortal smelt]

I wish we could swap out the elements for fuel

[neat tangle]

Honestly I think it's kinda naive to think many f2p non land owners would pick up IZ. There are infinitely better options out there. The only reason to play a p2e game right now is to have the prospect of earning.

[mortal smelt]

If there was a abundance

[hearty cradle]

thats gonna ruin the economy

because you can speed up element production

[thin wolf]

Good point, elements are needed for Skins?

[hearty cradle]

yea i dnt see f2p gonna play IZ unless we are as playable as clash of clan

[hearty cradle]

upgrades, scanning

[mortal smelt]

This was a idea floating around

[mortal smelt]

Ah true

[fair temple]

speeding up costs money. So you would pay money to lower fuel prices. At some point it wouldn't be worth it

[hearty cradle]

yea, maybe speeding up a T1 to catch up with a T2 might cost u the same

[fair temple]

I think it would be cool to see T4s requiring T1s to off-load most of their spare resources. Those people who only got T3-T4s will have issues with the amount of resources that they have spare. People with ONLY T1s will also not grow as fast as they could.
If you have to send your resources from your higher tiers to all the lower tiers then it could even out at some point? 🙂 Maybe we could have someone calculate the total amount of elements produced over all the plots. If that is more than 4 then we have a problem. If it is equal or less than 4 then there is none except for when people excessively speed up production and we have no element sinks..

[hearty cradle]

as a mean to trade the elements?

[fair temple]

yes but what if you can only trade within your own wallet

[hearty cradle]

that feature is already been worked on, transfer elements

im betting on resource transfer, because the most efficient way to farm bp is using T1s farm, but u need higher tiers to supply the resources to the T1s

[fair temple]

(or money)
Also Jag, there are a couple things about this last answer round that i don't understand.

1. if you sell your land, the blueprints reset on the land right? So you can get all the blueprints again?
   What if you are grinding a single blueprint and you continue selling your land to your other wallet so that you can find the same blueprint again 👀

[devout elk]

What is the IZ

[hearty cradle]

you can def do that
depending how persistant the "record" maybe u can just transfer the bp to other wallet?

[fair temple]

and if you can only get 1 Blueprint per wallet (as he states in part 8), then if you have 200 lands, how would that work. Is it 1 blueprint per land per wallet or 1 blueprint for 200 lands? in that case it would make more sense to use 200 wallets

[hearty cradle]

i dnt see why u want to farm a single bp tho, because u need to progress the research

and the chance of getting the same bp is pretty slim with 20k possible bp

[fair temple]

only within the stage. If you get a rhamphyre blueprint and want multiple rhamphyre ones, you just need 3 of them on a single land, then you can send that land somewhere else and you can farm it again since your building level remains the same.

[hearty cradle]

i think 1 bp per 1 plot

[fair temple]

I thought about making a big deal about it but i guess it doesn't really matter 🙂

[hearty cradle]

yea we can do that

its only 5 bp tho

We prob get the common

like dokka

[fair temple]

yes only Tier! 1 blueprints

[hearty cradle]

lol

its gonna be dry after a few months

[fair temple]

so we have 5 blueprint lines, all with 3 stages? 😄

[hearty cradle]

but it sounds like discovering a bp is hard

[fair temple]

and Tier 1 means it's not Tier 0. So we might get Atlas Archie and Kukka

[hearty cradle]

5 bp sounds like stage 1 T1

[fair temple]

yeah it does :/

[hearty cradle]

fp prob gonna dip more

once they find out its gonna be 5 bp

[simple juniper]

[hearty cradle]

oh no

0.1 T1 incoming

[mortal smelt]

If it does I’m buying it up

[hearty cradle]

🐳

[mortal smelt]

Not even close…maybe if I get the help of a bank…

[fair temple]

sorry, i'm going to add a wall of text here :] it could be reference for new people or for Johnny about the current view the community has.
tell me if i'm off on some things obviously

Illuvium Zero Alpha summary according to the pinned messages and GDD:
The game is still a little while away. Rich will be showcasing the new UI in a few weeks (unconfirmed when exactly).

When looking for blueprints you will have to first scan for illuvials in the Singularity Scanner and then research the biodata in the Materials Lab to make blueprints.
Scanning as well as Research will cost an amount of resources. The costs are up for balancing discussion after game release.

When doing research, you can choose which biodata you want to use from a collection that you scanned. From there you can choose how you want to research it, whether that is an armour or Moz4rt skin (and more?). Then you enter a chance process where you can get nothing, a fact that increases future blueprint chances, or a blueprint. When you get a blueprint you will initially get the first Stage blueprint. If you find the exact same thing next time you will get Stage 2, and then stage 3. During the Alpha you can only get 5~ different Tier 1 blueprints. The rates at which you can get them is pretty high as they are thank-you NFTs for purchasing a land.

The "State of Research" on every independent land (or megacity) is the Blueprints you have stored in your databank, and the Illuvial facts you have discovered. The State of Research is reset when you sell a land to a different wallet... (your own as well!)

You can check out the old GDD here:
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Some things are outdated such as:
(page 1). Weapons will not have blueprints anymore.
(page 2). The amount of stages of buildings is not set to 3. There are already UI elements that show LVL 6 buildings so having the materials lab be maxed out at III makes little sense and would inhibit future growth of the plots.
(Page 6). we have no clue what a "Structure Expansion" entails :]

[paper flame]

Wen research 🌳?

We never get any love 😥

[wary notch]

Our new pictures frame at the Lan Room, displays only land pictures ♊

The best view today

[mortal smelt]

Dope colors

[thin wolf]

Tell me you have 200+ plot of lands, without telling me you have 200+ plot of lands🥳

[hearty cradle]

do you work for saudi princes?

[glad junco]

Lan is such a show off and I love it!

I’m 3 away from 20 Lan. And the community just voted that post merge I should pick up more land Vs a LIZZIE 😂 so 20 it will be!

[worn scaffold]

Nice setup! I’m only missing the cool rgb lights 😉

[glad junco]

Nice!!! Just a AMAZON click away 😂

[worn scaffold]

hehe facts! But every dollar spend on amazon means less ILV or land 😉

[glad junco]

HHahahaha touché my friend touché. That’s party reason I stopped partying 🙂

[amber atlas]

the Alpha mechansims will be quite different to the Beta, minting itself will likely be tied to land to avoid someone getting the small set of alpha blueprints multiple times, we will announce how it will work before we release the minting update

[glad junco]

The way I’m understanding this is: if I have 10 plots in the same wallet and let’s say first plot generates a BP.. there’s a chance that the same plot can generate another BP but not the same one.

But because I have 10 plots, there’s a chance of generating the same exact BP 10 times (once per plot)..

Am I in the ball park or?

Aka: each plot = multiple but not the same?

[radiant sky]

You play ball in a park?

[glad junco]

When the weather is nice 😊

[radiant sky]

As far as i understood there are 5 bp's in Alpha. Every Landplot with a okish playstyle + activity will be able to get these 5 bp's.
But i'm not 100% sure i got it right 😂

[radiant sky]

Don't go to Parks... Too many human beings.

What if i had to talk to one?

[glad junco]

Yeah human beings piss me off.. but sometimes you get to pet a dog

[amber atlas]

in alpha or in beta?

in alpha all plots are independent in all ways, but we will put some restrictions on the minting to avoid abuse

[glad junco]

Alpha

😬

I don’t know man I’m so confused! We had nothing 24 hours and now we got all this info and now my head is in a pretzel

[amber atlas]

so alpha they are all independent, the restrictions will be about minting the same BPs many times from the same land... we don't want that to happen in Alpha, what we will probably do is have a minting window, "minting is now open" and then you mint your discovered BPs

[radiant sky]

Yea, but possibility is low... Often there are just the very small toxic dogs. And if there is a chilled doggy, we are at Problem nr. 1

[glad junco]

Okkkaaay now that makes sense!!! Yes

[radiant sky]

If you say Beta... This is the Version where we can start selling fuel? 🙃

[amber atlas]

yeah for some reason it is fashionable to call the launch the open beta 🙂

I guess to indicate stuff will still change

it seems everyone is doing it these days, and that includes us

given IZ doesn't have a private beta, I just say beta... I'm lazy like that 😉

[radiant sky]

Probably because at Launch most Games are actually Like the thing we called Beta earlier... Full of bugs, not much content etc 😄

[glad junco]

I know this still is subject to change but “open minting window” will happen at the end beta testing right? So if your plot scanned a bunch you’ll only be able to “mint” 1 of each but not multiples of the same, correct?

[amber atlas]

scan and resarch are different things

you scan to get biodata, you research biodata to discover blueprints

you can't get multiples of either BioData or Blueprints (in game... of course you can acquire multiple NFTs of the same Blueprint on the open market if you want to)

(just in case there is confusion you can can get lots of different BioData and Blueprints, limited by your data bank storage size, but you can't get duplicates)

[hot bronze]

how does that fit into the research tree?

ahha sorry, had to...

[amber atlas]

😮

[hot bronze]

Thanks Johnny, so in Fraggy's case with 20+ Lands... she (in theory) could end up with 20+ of the same BP?

During the Alpha...

[amber atlas]

yes

not could, should

[hot bronze]

(sorry Fraggy, I know you are closer to the 200 mark :))

cool - could, was me hinting that there is a chance (albeit strong) to get the BPs

[amber atlas]

I mean practicalities of running multiple lands aside, anyone who plays the alpha daily should get all BPs available in alpha

[hot bronze]

thanks for question time again 🙂

[glad junco]

YAY!! We’re all gonna be rich!! 😂

[mystic umbra]

Or we’ll be sorely disappointed by the lack of lucrativity

[analog inlet]

No the conversation was simply not worth my time past the comment I made ... will still be around to help new people who want information though to make sure they can make an informed decision. If you look a few people have actually thanked me for my input and it helped them with their decison 😲 .. surprising huh ?

others personally attack me and make me to out to be this bad person that hates as land in general and my one purpose in life is to ruin their day ....... maybe they have ulterior motives???? 🤨

surprising how I can be perceived as two different things simultaneously.

[reef jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-im-feeling-it-feeling-it-mc-conaughey-beat-dance-gif-11991694

[amber atlas]

I think the most simple and useful thing to do is smack people in the head with the pinned messages, over and over gain ... we were discussing research and most people weren't aware of the scanning and research GDDs that are pinned

would save us all typing the same answers over and over again 😉

personal attacks are definitely not okay, and having an opinion should be encouraged

[analog inlet]

I am more concerned with people specualtion on "earnings" , people who want to take more form stakers and overworld players , and people implying that land will out do revdis and staking in revenue and trying to spin that to new people

[amber atlas]

which is a good opinion to share, as core contributors shouldn't be speculating on value, and thus it is an area of the conversation we can't control

we can only talk about the mechanics, it is up to you guys to draw conclusions from those

[hollow shoal]

My question is, may we please have some leaks this week since we don’t have a showcase this week? 🙂

[analog inlet]

@amber atlas as far as the mechanics go can you please look at my blue print write up here and tell me if i have a accurate gist of it? (and other if you have time ) #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[hollow shoal]

Also hope recovery is going well.

[analog inlet]

ty.

[amber atlas]

a bit tricky for me to comment on relative value as that gets in to speculating, I think the other element to consider is that you can make money from blueprints by using them:

1. it is reasonable to assume that some blueprints will be held by a small number of people, potentially even one person
2. that group therefore controls not only the blueprints, but the skin that the blueprints is used to make
3. thus that group has options like:
   a) collecting a whole lot of materials and making lots of a given item (and selling it)
   b) making just one (or some other limited number) of the item
   c) providing a service whereby the exchange the skinned items for the ingredients plus a mark-up

---

even if I was allowed to speculate it is pretty hard to work out what that would mean, but you can extrapolate this to other games, for example in the early days of Runescape, for quite some time it was exceedingly profitable (in game currency) to make Rune items for people... only a small (but not limited) group of people had the smithing levels required to do so

[analog inlet]

I understand appreciate your thoughts Johnny Its nice to see you around and engaged again 🙂

[amber atlas]

---

in general blueprints were always meant to be high variance (bursty)

[analog inlet]

@amber atlas random off topic what happen to your "A" unles s i am completely losing it you usedto havea "A" in your name

[amber atlas]

I didn't even notice, not sure if someone changed (for purposes of ensuring standard staff names on our server) it or if I did it and don't remember 😉

I did notice a lot of core contributors now have 'proper' Illuvium names, rather than using their original handles, so maybe something Aaron did 😮

[analog inlet]

Thanks just knowing it was there at one point and not just in my head makes me feel better 😆

[amber atlas]

hah, now I'm beginning to doubt...

[deep bone]

Made a table with all the current information we have on Illuvium Zero 🙂 Ready to update this as soon as the beta comes out!

[quaint prism]

Thanks Johnny for all the exciting and interesting updates! It continues to impress me how open the Illuvium team is with internal progress details, and it's great to see all the passion and hard work at play! As a side note, I'm convinced that tutorials are evil because you have to break the game to get them working (at least that was my experience with making one for a personal project in college)... Anyway, keep up the great work!

[mystic umbra]

Jeremy took over the discord and changed stuff, so that’s probably where your change came from.

[hearty cradle]

whos jeremy

[empty path]

He also changed my name 💔

[broken roost]

damn good old Runescape, fishing lobsters to later go to the wilderness with pretty much nothing but a scimmitar and a 2h sword i'd try to pop up just before hitting the final blow. Good times

[thin wolf]

@analog inlet My issue with your approach is it is not neutral, your wording and bias is very clear in your engagements.(you have no love for land)

Personal attacks are never ok, but you have to remember a lot of people put a lot of money into land, and your tone can be perceived as an attack

Having land is not only about earning it is deeper than that for me at least.

You are probably the most involved person in Ilz who does not have a plot of land...which to me is weird.

[empty path]

🤔

[hearty cradle]

lars is right

[empty path]

He talking to Johnny or what

[hearty cradle]

obviously not

we cant name "him" without being regard as bullying

which is weird, but okay

[empty path]

Ah this again

[hearty cradle]

not just me complaining about you-know-who

[empty path]

There are more people complaining about you

[hearty cradle]

yes

[spring jetty]

really

Jaganite is a bully now?

[empty path]

And tbh all I see is solarstorm sharing his opinion. He is never attacking somebody personally because that person has a different opinion. All you can do is mention him any chance you can to annoy him. Imo it doesn't matter how many land plots somebody has, they can have an opinion about anything. Just like you don't need to have tokens to join this discord. His guild also has 707 land plots.

I'm getting really tired of this childish behaviour.

If you have a problem with anybody, you can DM @whole spear or @carmine ferry.

[thin wolf]

100%, I just wish he would cover all details to having land and not leave stuff out that does not fit.
And a mod can shut down any wrong information shared in here.

[whole spear]

What’s going on lol

Relax

Everyone

[spring jetty]

once you just stop caring about everything, it's much easier. Like me

[whole spear]

Hop in Illuvium voice

[hearty cradle]

he is spreading false info and no one bats an eye

he is stating his opinion as facts

i got screenshots

[spring jetty]

I dont care about delays or dips or w/e anymore. just going with flow

[hearty cradle]

worse, future opinion about land as facts

[nimble lichen]

Looks like ledger will have support for metamask mobile soon

[spring jetty]

after 10 years finally

[nimble lichen]

just in time

[empty path]

Well then anybody doing anything crypto related on mobile should get one 🙂

[nimble lichen]

need mobile for IZ really

[empty path]

Afaik you'll connect your wallet to your email and you log in with your email on mobile

[nimble lichen]

why would you do that

[hearty cradle]

to play the game?

you gonna need ILV account

[empty path]

Same as any other game, you log in with your account name

[hearty cradle]

thats using email

u can use a burner email tho

[nimble lichen]

i assumed we'd just be connecting with L2 IMX like we do for illuvidex

its not a downloadable app its web app right

[hearty cradle]

.apk

Or browser

we dnt know yet

[nimble lichen]

thought they said alpha was web browser

[hearty cradle]

yea

webgl

[nimble lichen]

so in that scenario I doubt they'll have us logging in with email

[hearty cradle]

we'll see

why does it matter

[nimble lichen]

matters to fraggy who thinks mobile metamask is sketchy

[hearty cradle]

its not sketchy

[nimble lichen]

and matters to people who have ledger

which doesnt presently work with mobile metamask

[hearty cradle]

just have to turn off icloud for mm

Ohh

yea

[nimble lichen]

but supposed to be supporting it very soon

[hearty cradle]

i wont be playing iz alpha with personal phone tho

i got a fresh ipad wohoo

[vivid cipher]

But would need the fancier ones not the cheaper ones I’d assume.

[nimble lichen]

yeah saw that, I ordered the iphone 14 for it as well

nice deep purple one

[hearty cradle]

they got purple iphone?

[vivid cipher]

ledgerX has Bluetooth but not ledgerS… isn’t that what they’re called

[hearty cradle]

appstore is very restrictive

[nimble lichen]

yeah wouldn't make sense to launch the alpha or beta in app store i guess

work bugs out on web app first

[empty path]

Let's hope he was just talking about the alpha / beta

[hearty cradle]

best we can do is

• apple, browser
• android, .apk

for iz alpha

[nimble lichen]

not sure which browser metamask mobile browser is based on

[hearty cradle]

many mobile crypto games are in appstore

[nimble lichen]

do they just connect with wallet or do they force signup

& are they L2

not sure there is any doing that?

[vivid cipher]

The few I’ve done are email signup.

[nimble lichen]

also wonder if the illuvidex update will be mobile support for IMX

[hearty cradle]

yea, connect the wallet to account on their website

[vivid cipher]

But they were all playable without the blockchain minting too

[hearty cradle]

f2p

[vivid cipher]

Yeah

[hearty cradle]

u still playing?

[vivid cipher]

Pay to mint. No

They were crap games that led me here

[hearty cradle]

lol

me too

[vivid cipher]

Haven’t played in over 1.5 years

[hearty cradle]

i search on utube, best crypto gaming, and saw becker vid

[thin wolf]

whats the name of the the test nework for apps on IOS? flight soemthing

[vivid cipher]

TestFlight

[thin wolf]

So simple,thank you

[harsh acorn]

Would be cool if ILV-0 could be a webapp as well. Possibly put it on a streaming service like GeoForce Now or Stadia. So iOS and also people with any internet device could play.

[amber atlas]

Alpha is targetted at android and web

we are trying to get the web version running on iPhone/Safari but we won't let that stop us launching Alpha

[harsh acorn]

I am android so apk will be great but I am sure the fruit folks will want in on the goodness as well

[amber atlas]

for alpha login is with email/password, wallets need to be attached in web interface

the wallet login on mobile is just a bit too shaky right now (using WalletConnect)

obvioulsy to be fixed before beta, but we don't want to hold the alpha up due to this

[harsh acorn]

I use the wallet connect feature on android/chrome works like a charm for me.

[amber atlas]

the default walletConnect behaviour uses a middle man server which we weren't really okay with, we also found under certain circumstances it leaves 'zombie' sessions, which over time can cause a users wallet to become inoperable

[harsh acorn]

Glad you guys are putting in the effort to test all of those scenarios. Much appreciated

[empty path]

Thank you so much Johnny, nice to have somebody with your experience helping the mods out

[amber atlas]

we think having to connect your wallet to your Illuvium account once in a web browser is not so much of a hassle, so basically its in the nice to have basket for alpha

(plus it was always a planned feature for users to be able to choose between wallet or email account based login... optionally with wallet being an MFA factor for your email login)

[harsh acorn]

Will there be a way to see all of possible BPs from scanning?

[amber atlas]

in game, not planned, in the illuvidex, not planned but probably

(also BPs come from Research not from Scanning 😉 )

Scan -> Gives Illuvial BioData ... Research BioData -> Gives Blueprint

[warm stone]

During the alpha, will we have all the same blueprint ?

I Hearst about 5 alpha exclusive blueprint

Heard*

[empty path]

Yes

[harsh acorn]

There are tier 1 through 5 blueprints. From what I understand we can just obtain Tier 1 blueprints from Alpha.

[warm stone]

OK so main objective since we wont keep the fuel

[harsh acorn]

Im gonna learn how to optimize my plots for fuel as well so I can hit the ground running when full game is launched

[amber atlas]

alpha blueprints are not exclusive

given ~20k people are going to get them they are probably, at least in the short term, going to be the most common blueprints

[empty path]

Can you still get them after alpha?

[thin wolf]

Fruit folk😂

[amber atlas]

the beta rarity is likely (but not confirmed) to be based on a bonding curve similar to Illuvials

[warm stone]

By exclusive I mean you can only have them during the alpha.

[amber atlas]

no

[warm stone]

Just to say "i was there"

Too bad 😪

[empty path]

Hmm

[amber atlas]

that has never been said, someone misinterpreted "limited blueprints" to mean that, but limited meant a subset of the total set

[amber atlas]

so this will mean it will be much rarer to get these blueprints after alpha

[warm stone]

OK thank you

[harsh acorn]

Will the progress we make building up our land plots and structures be wiped with full release?

[amber atlas]

yes

[warm stone]

Yes but then you will know more how the game works

And you'll be faster for second run

[amber atlas]

like PB1 (and soon to be PB2) we might introduce some other things (like leaderboards) to keep the IZ alpha interesting

but its not the main event so to speak

[empty path]

👀

[harsh acorn]

Leaderboards will be cool. Metrics like Fuel Generated, Most Efficient, Blueprints discovered would be fun to see

[amber atlas]

yeah thats the kinda thing we have talked about

maybe also voting for most aesthetically pleasing land

[empty path]

Don't tell Kieran he can see this 👀

[hearty cradle]

voting for friendliest neighbour

we should do a bake-off too

[amber atlas]

does 'friendly' mean willing to sell to complete your megacity?

[thin wolf]

Really appreciate you taking the time in here @amber atlas all of this is super informative

[hearty cradle]

ive been told my chicken pot pie is too good

the secret is butter. lots of butter

[harsh acorn]

would be fun to have a minesweeper version of ILV-0 where if you build a structure in the wrong place it hits a landmine.

[hearty cradle]

can i use chrome on ios ?

[amber atlas]

yes as I understand it the Unity WebGL runs a lot better on chrome

but I can't guarantee it , we haven't tested it

(but we will ... will add to the TODO list 🙂 )

[hearty cradle]

thank you

i cant return the ipad johnny

[harsh acorn]

lol

[spring jetty]

sounds like we are right around the corner

[hearty cradle]

christmas this year gonna be awesome

[spring jetty]

too bad it's not a thing here

[hearty cradle]

u had mooncake last week?

[spring jetty]

Christmas has always been a lonely holiday for me

[empty path]

We can spend it together on my T1 in Halcyon sea

[harsh acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-movie-excited-will-ferrell-gif-19698259

[spring jetty]

nah, i barely have a family to celebrate any holiday with

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/月餅moon-cak-moon-cakes-gif-12626454

this is for you

[spring jetty]

or you can come to my mega city in Crystal Shore

[hearty cradle]

you have us wind

[harsh acorn]

We are ILV family. Gonna Play all Holiday season

[hearty cradle]

minus the dragon

jk jk

he's like the grumpy uncle we meet every chrismas eve

[spring jetty]

i havent even celebrate my birthday since 1st year high school lol

im living a loveless life, it's awesome

[hearty cradle]

i dnt like celebrating birthdays too, i usually turn off my phone

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-may-may-the-fourth-gif-21430119

[harsh acorn]

My bday is right after Christmas. Everybody is broke so they say my presents were for Christmas and Bday.

[hearty cradle]

i dnt like family gathering
bunch of people who ve seen your shit and make fun of it

asking awkward questions

[spring jetty]

😂

it's like that everywhere

[harsh acorn]

LIke Christmas at the Griswalds

[hearty cradle]

people should deal with their own shit man

[spring jetty]

relatives are nosy

[hearty cradle]

and new years gift

maybe this is why we seek refuge in web3

[harsh acorn]

You get new years gifts? Man I was deprived my whole life

[hearty cradle]

sorry, i made that up

[vivid cipher]

Take this sad fest to #799010390201466880

[versed warren]

You know what would be cool, is holiday skins that are limited edition and only land owners can scan for during that year of the holiday. Every year after will be different skins never repeats.

Imagine like a super rare bunny suit or Santa suit

[fair temple]

Yes i dont think Johnny touched on the DAO making skins themselves and selling those alongside the community-generated ones right @hearty cradle ?
Was this limited to land holders or will the DAO create the/some limited edition ones?

[dusty agate]

I didn t got. I will need android to play ilz?

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-tree-spirit-gif-24013423

[spring jetty]

that's the gayest thing Ive seen in a while

[hearty cradle]

aaron clarified this concern
blueprint is exclusive to IZ, but not all skin is exclusive from blueprint.
For example ascendant arena champion skin will be awarded to players.
but, the DAO will not sell skins

[fair temple]

Aha perfect. Thanks!

[dusty agate]

Skins are only for ranger?

[hearty cradle]

and mozart

so far yes

Future possible skins:

• IZ buildings
• arena board

[dusty agate]

20k looks too much for 1 character

[hearty cradle]

hmm
you have to look at it this way
ramphy body armor has T1 to T5

[dusty agate]

So 20k x5

[hearty cradle]

151 illuvials in the power of 5

then in the power of the number of armor pieces

for example, body, leggings

shoulder

crouch shield

its important

glove

gauntlet

[dusty agate]

Uh so each piece is crafted independently

[hearty cradle]

nose piercing

yes

thats why 20k is good, because its statistically unlikely for one player to discover all

[dusty agate]

Thats cool, think we ll need some sort of communication to make collections

[hearty cradle]

people are going to trade skins

trade = economy

some weirdo will mix 5 affinities in one look tho

[dusty agate]

For example if i get ramphy skin can i mix it with atlas ?

Like have ramphy chest and atlas leggings

[hearty cradle]

yes

thats how i imagine it

imo

[radiant sky]

My mum says this isn't weird

[dusty agate]

There will be demand on bp too, if people will need to craft full armor of one type

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboys-cowboy-builders-cowboy-builders-the-cartoons-gif-20390919

[humble lichen]

🤭

[mortal smelt]

GM “metaverse” landlords

[hearty cradle]

metaverse is pretty much ded rn

[orchid isle]

its in hibernation

just wait for the crypto spring of 23

[hearty cradle]

i was rooting for metaverse, but the pandemic ended

[fair temple]

It will come back if people start getting fired globally because of financial reasons. I have no clue how economics work though

[mortal smelt]

October is gonna be the deluge of metaverse games

[dusty agate]

War will end soon too…

[hearty cradle]

it's too lucrative to end soon

[teal mural]

So owning an plot of land is like owning a business so I wonder if 2 people that has land near each other can team up to make an mage city 🧐

[worn scaffold]

You can teamup by sending your land to his wallet or the other way around 😉

[little moon]

Someone wanna go buy the bottom 3 t1 taiga 🙂

[ionic sierra]

if you have two T1 in the same region but separated can you exchange fuel and elements?

[mystic gull]

Maybe it will be available to do so, but will require to pay.

[hearty cradle]

u can send resources to other plot in the same wallet regardless region

[ionic sierra]

does it make sense to do that?

[austere whale]

For the folks who have multiple plots in same wallet?

[ionic sierra]

yes. Why would I want to send things from one place to another?

[stiff talon]

Depends on strategy. If your strategy is to make a blueprint farm and you have a tier 1 in all the regions with like 1 tier 2 to offset elements left over to boost the other tier 1s then maybe. Or another strategy is to just create a megacity and then just play on one big land.

[austere whale]

Bc you are not gonna get every resource available on one land(unless it's perfectly balanced), you might need something which you have in excess on other plots

[stiff talon]

Well depends if you get a land with each element and resource. I have a perfect tier 2 with all 3 fuels and 2/2/2 elements. So it's possible 😜

[dusty agate]

I m getting fresh news about that :)))

[austere whale]

I'm not that lucky 😅

But yes you're correct, that's possible

[stiff talon]

Yeah 😜 I'm not gonna lie I'm pretty excited to play on it!

[austere whale]

We all are, only the question is WEN!!!

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[orchid isle]

"weeks away"

[nimble lichen]

let the games begin

[floral locust]

https://tenor.com/view/let-the-game-begin-jigsaw-saw6-lets-start-the-game-the-game-begin-now-gif-21986582

[nimble lichen]

different feeling than I was going for but hey

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/let-the-games-begin-lets-do-it-lets-go-lets-start-yaadhumaagi-nindraai-gif-12352058

[floral locust]

That movie scarred me as a child so it's the first thing I think of when people say that line rofl

ahh much better lars 🙂

[nimble lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/washington-state-north-cascades-river-nature-majestic-gif-11111063

more this vibe

[hearty cradle]

yea, one plot may not be well balanced in fuel and element

[gleaming sigil]

Always soon, when now??

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[exotic ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-facepalm-gif-17961056

[teal mural]

Did they say if a T3 makes enough fuel to play in overworld all day?

[thin wolf]

Don't believe they have shared any information on that.lets call a friend.
@fair temple

[fair temple]

1s

[thin wolf]

2s?

[dusty agate]

I was told once that By creating T1 lands they let gamers ( who are not financially interested) to play free….

[fair temple]

Land produces fuel so that the entire population of players can play. Obviously it would not make sense to have the range of 25%+ and minus if there is not enough fuel supply. So the lands should make enough for the entire player base.

All the land produce their own share of the amount of fuel and only produce 5% of all the fuel in the system.
there are 20K lands, if you give a the lands the following production:
T1 1 fuel
T2 4 fuel
T3 12 Fuel
T4 40Fuel (36+10%)
then that comes out at a total of 97K fuel produced

Your Tier three land would produce 12 fuel out of the total 100K~ fuel so roughly 1/8000.
Remember land produces 1/20 of the entire fuel production, so 1/8000 / 20 -> 1/160.000.

This makes that you produce as much fuel as 1/160.000th of the illuvium population. If there are 160K people playing as much as you would want to, then that means you produce enough for yourself to play as much as you want for free.

so over all this depends on the playerbase 🙂 If there are only 5000 players, then you would produce as much as 1/3000th of how much the avarage person would play. So in that case you would not get enough 🙂
There are therefor no guarantees that you make enough to play as much as you want.
(And this does not include the other 80000 lands that are still going to be added later on.
Also this is speculation based on some very low brain maths xD)

[dusty agate]

Calculations are cool and fair enough, but i thought teleportation and crafting will need some fixed amount of fuel and think it doesn t depends how much will be playing… am i wrong?

I was thinking about that, once i ve read that maybe it will cost somewhere 10$ to teleport. Thats maybe outdated info but still its very expansive, if u imagine that T1 owner has to collect fuel for several days to teleport somewhere.

[fair temple]

What i said was based on the premise that the developers skew the production to satisfy the playerbase and not oversaturate the market unnecessarily.
It does not make sense if lands make thousands of hyperion per day if there is only a need for 50 per week. So, likely you will see the land content increase based on the amount of players playing the game. If there are a lot of players, IZ will see an increase in levels so that the production can keep up. If not then the IZ players will feel left out as they can't produce enough while the price for fuel is at its highest.

[dusty agate]

Yeh i understood that, u did it for T3 but even for T1 it looks good as it will be like 160k X12

2m players . Thats nothing for illluvium 🙂

[fair temple]

let's see what happens 🙂

[dusty agate]

I think u believe in that too as u are here and doing grate job for newcomers 🙏

[thin wolf]

This is why you are the Illuvium master

[dusty agate]

Trivia champion

😀

[fair temple]

definitely here for the fun of IZ 😄 got a bit more in it than Solar hehe

[thin wolf]

That gets passed around, Illuvium master is earned🥳

[dusty agate]

I know you are doing it well too, i tried several times but have earned 0 points

😂

[thin wolf]

I have only gotten one right😬by luck because I had just seen a leak video about a Barons throne couldn't believe my luck🥳

You are n the beta?

[dusty agate]

Ueh got it long ago

[radiant sky]

@burnt blade
Yes, it can be different Tiers, as long as they are Next to each other and in a square. (2x2/3x3)
If you have a megacity you get different "Bonus" for example the landmarks of the t3 and t4 will be shared to all plots in your megacity, some Buildings you will need just 1 for the megacity instead of one for every landplot, which saves time and ress. Also there will be possible future features for megacities only.
Keep in mind, that the megacity Feature ist still in developement, and many things can change until it goes live.

Also habe a Look at the pinned messages in this Chanel. Loads of interesting Info in there

[burnt blade]

Very cool!

[radiant sky]

Indeed it is 🙂
I would really recommend doing some research before you buy some landplots. You will Find some Info in the pinned messages in here, in illuvium.medium, #🎨〕community-content and on Homepages Like illuvialmaster.com | infoluvial.io

And ofc feel free to ask anything here in discord, many humble people in here, willing to help you out

[random siren]

What do yall think comes first IZ Alpha or Illuvitars?

[little moon]

I think IZ alpha. They would be leaking albums if it was close.

[radiant sky]

Ilz Alpha probably...
Illuvitars with it's Album could need some time because of the utility related to maybe every aspect of the illuviverse. So probably just comes out wenn devs finalizing ilz, Overworld, Arena.... But who knows

[little moon]

Plus the hangup for IZ is the UI. Albums is nearly 100% UI so they may be focusing the UI squad on IZ first then Albums.

[radiant sky]

I hope so...

[little moon]

Yeah it would be a bit of an insult to the land buyers if they released another sale before publishing the product from the previous sale.

[topaz mauve]

Guys, what does production boost do in T2/T3/T4?

[little moon]

Would be a weird way to prioritize.

[topaz mauve]

Does it only affect the speed of the construction of the buildings?

[little moon]

It increases the production of fuel on the plot.

[radiant sky]

Was just writing that 😄
But it would also bei a potential red flag for people who aren't involved in illuvium yet, if they do a second sale before first Sale is playable

[topaz mauve]

Fuel only?

[little moon]

I think so. Fuel is the thing thats worth money though so its the thing you want more of.

[topaz mauve]

Basically 3xT2 give the same fuel production as 1xT3, right?

[little moon]

yeah

[topaz mauve]

3xT2x3fuelspots1.33=1T36fuelspots2.

[radiant sky]

T2= 3.9999 fuel
T3 = 12 fuel
T4 = 36 fuel
If you calculate the boost in.

And ofc t4 gets the landmark Bonus

[topaz mauve]

Indeed

[radiant sky]

Which isn't calculated in in the 36

[topaz mauve]

But landmark gives only 10%

[radiant sky]

Yep

[topaz mauve]

so even if it's all the same fuel it will be 39.6

[radiant sky]

It will spread in your mc

[topaz mauve]

Price wise T3 is benefitial vs 3xT2

less blueprints, but also less time to manage.

[radiant sky]

Really floor changed? Damn need to have a Look again 🙃

[topaz mauve]

I mean, T2s you can find for 1ETH or so

[radiant sky]

T2 was always the best choice if it comes to fuel the last months

[topaz mauve]

Those that are below 1ETH are usually not balanced, one element is often missing.

[topaz mauve]

I don't see how T3 loses to T2 from fuel production standpoint

3ETH=T3, 1ETH=T2 roughly speaking

[little moon]

T2 was chillin around .8 for a while.
I think the T3 price has come down recently as well.

[radiant sky]

I see

[topaz mauve]

Anyway, will buy T3 soon if I find a good deal

Loading on lands for a week straight 🙂

[little moon]

I think T2 has historically been the best value but that can always change. I think T2 is the best just because of the increased chances for blueprints.

And dont forget to get some tokens too if you dont have any already. Its super cheap right now.

[topaz mauve]

I want to have max 4 lands, preferably 3, so I don't spend more than 1h a day.

I will get tokens for 10k USD when the price drops a bit

Crypto is very much connected to the stock market and it's not doing great, so I'm waiting.

When it's around 60 I will buy-in.

[radiant sky]

Imo i wouldn't pay too much of a premium for balanced landplots with the Info provided.
If you have multiple plots you can transfer missing ress.
If your city is finished with Buildings, what are balanced Elements worth then?
Atm it is just for Building up a bit faster, not more, not less...

[topaz mauve]

What do you mean by increased chance for blueprints?

Do you mean due to an opportunity to have more lands, or that the land itself have a higher chance?

[topaz mauve]

True, agreed, but it's just saves a hassle of sharing resources.

[little moon]

Each plot can only have 1 scanner to scan for Illuvial biodata. So if you have 3x T2 you can be scanning with 3 buildings compared to 1xT3 you only have one building. All tiers have an equal chance at scanning and researching for blueprints.

[topaz mauve]

Yeah, got it. I thought there is something I don't know.

[radiant sky]

Every Tier has the Same Chance.
More Lands equals more bp's
Higher Tiers habe more ress to Scan, and built up the Scanner faster. It's not easy to calculate that imo

[topaz mauve]

I would prefer a 3xT2 and 1xT3 set-up.

[little moon]

Ask in #🛒〕land-dex. Some people are selling whole megacities.

[topaz mauve]

Didn't know

[radiant sky]

The ones i saw were mostly just t1 mc's but maybe you are lucky

[topaz mauve]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/land-sale?page=1&watchlist=null&selectedLand=666_400

got this one yesterday for 1.06

Quite happy about it.

[stiff talon]

That's a decent 1

[topaz mauve]

Indeed, thanks

[dry mango]

Nice

https://tenor.com/view/ilv-illuvium-one-of-us-wolf-of-wall-street-gif-23354367

[teal mural]

Just grab up a T1 from Halcyon Sea! I couldn’t help myself its next door too two T3, someone will be sending me an offer 😂

[simple lance]

I was looking at that one also. It was the cheapest tier 2 in Crimson Waste, now I have to go to 1.26 for the next cheapest tier 2 in Crimson Waste. It does have balanced fuel but is that worth the premium?

[teal mural]

I remember when Crimson Waste was one of the cheaper lands now it’s one of the most expensive

[stiff talon]

It might be lucrative if you aren't going for a megacity

[lilac dagger]

That’s really good financial advice thanks!

[little moon]

Youre welcome!

Though unfortunately i am not a financial advisor 😭

[lilac dagger]

You are to me!

[orchid isle]

Definitely FA

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/nfa-illuvium-wink-ilv-discord-gif-23282501

[nimble lichen]

I come to this channel for the financial advice

[teal mural]

I got you! Buy as much land as you can and grab one ILV and one SILV2 each time you get paid minimum💸 ( stake the ILV for 12 months) save the silv2 for when the game start

[teal mural]

Not FA just my plan

[lilac dagger]

That was a close one

[teal mural]

😉

[viral star]

If you snag a t4 then seems you’ll get all the resources you need to play the overworld then you can just accccummmulate ilv

[nimble lichen]

you can never have enough resources

[lilac dagger]

I got 1xT1 and 1xT2 to cover all fuels and resources. I’m good with that. Just gonna get ILV from now on. FA

[hearty cradle]

but ur the police

[lilac dagger]

You passed the test. Carry on

[hearty cradle]

[fluid eagle]

When?????

[empty path]

https://gfycat.com/shamefulgoodgypsymoth

[balmy ruin]

mid Sep already👀

Zero gonna come out ?

[gusty fractal]

i think no...

[empty path]

As usual last update can be found in the pinned messages, once there is a date known it will be posted in #📣〕announcements

[balmy ruin]

It's still gonna be out in Sep. ?

[empty path]

I don't think so

[upbeat drift]

why does the team doesn t tell us anything about the illuvium zero launch?i mean 1-2-3 months,but at least to know something

[empty path]

Read the pinned messages

[upbeat drift]

so a few weeks if i understand correctly?

[simple lance]

probably a few months unfortunately

[empty path]

Didn't know you worked on Illuvium Zero and know better than Johnny, thanks for the update

[simple lance]

just sharing my wisdom

[hearty cradle]

just set yur expectation for christmas

[desert pilot]

does anyone know why the previews for land arent working in wallets and imx at the moment?

[abstract knot]

The leaks channel has been quiet for some time, I can remember how there were a lot more leaks the first half of the year

[mystic gull]

#💥〕leaks-discussion message

[hearty cradle]

grant is heli boarding

[abstract knot]

There should be more even more leaks now 😂😂

[mystic gull]

He is the one that leaks

[wise widget]

Have you seen the little video leak he posted in #💥〕leaks-discussion earlier?

[abstract knot]

No that looks amazing

I think all leaks belong to the leaks channel because not everyone is going through #💥〕leaks-discussion

[wise widget]

Looks very cool indeed! Yeah the leaks discussion channel is a gold mine for sneaky leaks 👌

[topaz mauve]

Which resource on the land is required for scanner's research?

[fair temple]

They say that Silicon will be used for technology. So likely you will need silicon for researching tech. But this is not confirmed and it could also take a combination of all the resources for all we know. After all, it takes energy to make your computers run so hydrogen (the resource for energy related stuff) could be used as well.
Fuel has not been talked about much, but it would make sense to also be added to the mix. It would make research a lot more interesting if you actually put money in if you want to get value out instead of everything being F2P.
The team sometimes hinted towards T1 having to choose between Fuel ór scanning, so it might just cost all your fuel to keep the research going. (or the placement would nullify your fuel production? We don't know exactly)

[vivid cipher]

Metadata/API error. Has been fixed I guess.

#981426698333618276 message

[topaz mauve]

Wow, thanks for the response Garf.

Very solid one, you are helping me to learn more about the game again 🙂

[tulip torrent]

Land land

[copper swan]

Wen zero?

[dusty agate]

Hope soon

[opal thistle]

Soon, devs are working hard to get the Alpha out

[lilac dagger]

Anyone here just gonna play zero and hold token? No way I have time for over world. I’m just curious about other plans

[copper swan]

Hopefully soon. Land lost 30% of it’s value already

[lilac dagger]

You buy on auction?

[dusty agate]

Naah.. how u calculate that

[copper swan]

Floor price after auction

[dusty agate]

Problem is theres no demand on lands

[dusty agate]

0.29eth was cheapest but that was like several ones

[copper swan]

That’s why we need game asap…

[dusty agate]

Sure 💯 agree

[dusty agate]

Waiting for Johnny after Crypto meeting, he will have some good news i think, if they dont announce them there..

[radiant sky]

He just gave some News. Won't change much in this few days...

[dusty agate]

I mean maybe we get the date 😊

Theres no point to keep it secret if its going to launch in a month…

[radiant sky]

In a month? Did you read the latest Infos he shared? 😅

[versed warren]

I own some but tbh would mind seeing t2s at .5 or lower before game is released. Oh boy would I eat them up.

[dusty agate]

You think it will be launched sooner?

[radiant sky]

No, don't think so. Imo it needs more time than a month. But that's just my opinion 🙃

[teal mural]

When the price drop I just buy more. They are not concern about the prices dropping! to be honest I I’m not either. The rich love when the prices drop on a great project because that gives them time to cross dollar Average and buy more But the poor be tripping!. The prices are goin to skyrocket and we will be like I wish I gotten more so!!!! Imma Buy more now! While we still can. Axie land was $500 and then that same land went to 15k

[topaz mauve]

I dunno about you, I just bought another T2 which is my 6th.

[fair temple]

wouldn't you wait to offer on lands next month? (expected offer function in October) This way you could make a Megacity in the future and you would need 1/4th of the time to manage your plots 🙂

[teal mural]

I just grabbed a T1 the other day because of its location! I got 3 so far ( T3, T2, and a T1) grabbing another one this week. ADD it UP ADD IT and count it yay

[fair temple]

I personally like the ones that have absolutely nothing around them. in the upcoming sales, the surroundings will be filled in so basically the lonely ones are véry long wait lottery tickets XD
Imagine 3 T4s spawning next to you :]

[teal mural]

I’m looking for land that I know ppl will need to make their megactiy and going to up charge on them 🤣. It’s just business

[rotund reef]

Was thinking the exact same thing

Even though I'll likely want to keep most of mine

[fair temple]

way better to have one with nothing around it, than one with only T1s

[topaz mauve]

I mean, I don't think when they issue an offer people would suddenly sell it cheap lol

[teal mural]

That’s a good plan too! Imma do both! I love being an early adopter😜

[topaz mauve]

And also, I am still not sure about the mechanics of 1 scanner per megacity

[fair temple]

fair enough! but i don't think they'll have that backfire on you.

[hoary forge]

i have 2x Tier 1 and get all Elements and all Fuels. only Crypton i don´t get.

[topaz mauve]

I am still planning to buy for 5-10ETH more, so I am good 😄

Whereever the price goes, doesn't matter.

[hoary forge]

does anyone have the list for what Elements and Fuels are there? and maybe the list what blueprints in what region it gets.

[topaz mauve]

I think I will try to grab a T4 at some point, I will make my decisions post alpha and more clarity on megacities.

Now it's just random buys around the world to support the project, build some portfolio, be here in discord and keep learning about the game

Garf, what does Trivia Master mean? Do you know literally everything about the game? 🙂

This is the best discord I have ever been, everyone explains everything, I learnt so much these 10 days.

[fair temple]

there is a trivia every week about the game. You'll get images of illuvials in game that you have to name, terms, facts and such. Even things that only people like Rich knows! (what is his favorite ice cream f.e.) XD
If you get most questions right, you win and get the role for a week, along with beta access for all attendees
it's a really fun weekly event where you test your knowledge 🙂

[topaz mauve]

I was planning to participate this week, but honestly, with 10 days of watching videos and being here I won't be able to complete with you guys 🙂

I only played beta, know some stuff about autochess and lands.

[fair temple]

one of the guys went to check the illuviary of Infoluvial last week, checked out the names of the illuvials and got a single point by being here for only a single day! it's not like the questions are very tough 🙂

[empty path]

Could still be worth it to just show up 😉

[topaz mauve]

I will, I registered today already 🙂

They said if I get one question right, will get access to pb1.

I only played on my friends computer, so don't have the access myself yet.

He got me into the game, and I am like "wow, how did I miss this project"

[fair temple]

yep, i'll leave a simple question around for you to answer xD

[topaz mauve]

hope it's gonna be "how many regions are there in illuvium land" 😄

Actually, I think I can answer any question about lands and how they work now.

Try me!

[fair temple]

what is the building that scans Illuvials?

[topaz mauve]

Lol, I thought it is "Scanner".

[fair temple]

Singularity* scanner!

[topaz mauve]

Ok, got it. Going to learn the building names. Cya!

[fair temple]

barely any are known and they will likely change as well 😄
The singularity scanner was asked like 3x in the past 5 months

[topaz mauve]

haha, thanks!

[hoary forge]

So Crypton is for Travel and Teleportation? is that a more needed resource for the overworld than the other ones?

[fair temple]

If you travel somewhere but you don't have any shards, then you won't be able to capture any illuvial. So Hyperion will also be highly sought after to cure shards. Though you can also do runs and only look for harvestable materials such as plant stuff, consumables to heal your illuvials and shards or other equipment materials in rocks. In this case you wouldn't need Hyperion. This however can be balanced so that you need more hyperion to cure a shard than crypton to make a run f.e.

So you could have a higher consumption of Crypton, but the other two are equally as important in the game and we have no clue which one will have the highest value to players.

[rotund reef]

Will we be able to sell the plant stuff too?

[fair temple]

I'm not sure 🙂

but that is non-IZ related 😄

[thin wolf]

What did you say?

[hoary forge]

thanks. i watched your page infoluvial. helps a lot. great work.

[fair temple]

there is a high chance that you can sell the plant stuff. Think about it: You go on a run and spend money. you decide ONLY to farm the plant stuff and then return. Would you have lost all your money then? isn't the whole idea of Web-3 that you own the assets that you get in game? why would Illuvials bé ownable and the other stuff not? 🙂

But again. i don't know for sure. it might just be untradable plant stuff until you use it to make something or something.

[burnt blade]

Hey all! Everyday I get more excited about this project and I'm super glad to be in early.. Can someone point me in the direction of this Illuvium Trivia?

[fair temple]

if you scroll to the top of the text and voice channels to the left of your screen, you can see "events". pressing on it will take you to a popup where the trivia event is listed. You can press "interested" to be notified of it, and if you go to the twitch URL when the Trivia takes place you can go there! 🙂

you can also just remember to go to https://twitch.tv/illuviumio on thursday at 9pm GMT and it will be live 🙂

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-training-day-smoke-gif-22279308

[hoary forge]

@fair temple do you have the list with, what illuvium are in what regions in %. i saw one in the chat here a bit ago. i got crimson waste and holcyon sea

fire are more in crimson and water more in holcyon

[fair temple]

Props to Linkky 🙂

[radiant sky]

Mmh idk... You could argue the same with elements in ilz, which you can't sell aswell

[hoary forge]

thanks thats it is

[fair temple]

yes so they could remain as untradable until you make a "something" NFT out of it and then you can sell it. But you should be able to sell shards, uncured shards, consumables and such. So i bet plant stuff will also be on that list.

[hoary forge]

Nice with Crimson and Holcyon i got great cover of all illuvials.

[radiant sky]

Probably 🙂

[amber narwhal]

do we know when alfa release date is yet?

[rotund reef]

If we did, where do you think it would be "announced"?

[brisk stump]

Hi 🙂 i may be wrong but i bet on hyperion 😄 since it's needed for shards everyone want to catch illuvials 😄 for selling it to other players or to build his own battler deck so there will be a huge demand on this fuel (I did bet heavy since i have a T2 with 3 Hyperion fuel in it)

Crypton is nice but i won't travel a lot i think i will farm a zone a lot using Hyperion for shards for catching illuvials

imagine 200 k ppls asking for shards in illuvidex to have fun in overworld

i mean u can travel once and get many illuvials from one run so maybe u have to travel once and use 2-3 shards

[hollow shoal]

That’s my thought as well, I think that’s why the energy mechanic is there. You gotta choose between illuvials and resources.

[radiant sky]

They will balance the need of fuel... Sure sometimes you make more $ with hyperion, maybe another time with crypton... But in the end you will make pretty mich the same amount with every kind of fuel

[rotund reef]

The lynch pin there is how much of each will it take to perform the actions. If it's 1 for 1, I would agree, but it may not be like that.

[nimble lichen]

I thought they said that IZ would play no part in curing shards.

[fair temple]

Yes you are right. This was related to the overworld runs where you go around looking for resources, illuvials or Shards. The shards would be cured with fuel. But you would not be able to do anything with shards on IZ.
I know it is a bad channel to talk about overworld but thats where the conversation brought us 😄

[nimble lichen]

gotcha, would be fun in IZ had some more interaction with that piece

[thin wolf]

This is the least moderated channel in discord, you can go all out in here😬

[fair temple]

I just shouldnt confuse people with other gamemodes lol

[thin wolf]

Ahh, makes sense

[nimble lichen]

my bad, I was reading up instead of down lol

[glad junco]

What’s up sucka ass tricks! We building yet?

[nimble lichen]

only with our spreadsheets

people waiting for the merge like it's Y2K

[lilac dagger]

So many good answers today. How do you know so much? What’s “infoluvial”? Also, thanks!

[brisk plume]

guys did we get dev blog for the past month yet?

[vivid cipher]

No not yet.

Good thing the team is usually very decentralized. Otherwise they’d be together like so many are right now. And be getting nothing done.

[brisk plume]

cool thank you mate

[mystic umbra]

Would be fun to see them make a version of zero where you can play as your ranger going around your land in 3rd person view. The assets are already there, doesn’t seem like too far off of a possibility for something in the far out future

[proper canopy]

Hey all its been awhile. Am I forgetting how much land sold for or has the price gone up? Looks like the lowest is 577 USDC

if i remember during the land sale they were going for 350-450?

[hot bronze]

whoa - first 3x3 mega city up on the market.

Halcyon Sea

115eth?

[lyric hamlet]

News?

[thin wolf]

Kieran did us dirty😬

[lyric hamlet]

Watching the live

Just rambling

Can tell he had a few

[wary notch]

He did 😂

[brisk plume]

happy la merge

ILV family

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[tardy fern]

"2. Does the BP in alpha include Tier 1 - Tier 5?
No. T1 only."

surely t2 t3 and t4s can get bps right?

[humble lichen]

Why did people do a vertical sum here and not a horizontal sum I never understood

[fair temple]

Does it matter though? XD

[humble lichen]

You can see which type of illuvials are most rare

[nocturne lodge]

The blueprints themselves will be T1. They will be available to all tiers of land.

[humble lichen]

That the vertical sum sums up to 100 is really no surprise lol

[rustic magnet]

Any news when illuvium zero be released?

[near tusk]

Guess I’m apart of this now

Got a tier 3 land

Am I an idiot?

[wooden sphinx]

no, because I've got 2

[near tusk]

So

What exactly will tier 3 land do in the future

And specifically the one I got

I can’t link it wowwwww

Well it’s the most recent trade on the immutscan

[timber dock]

Hi whats tier 3 land going for.

[fair temple]

Check out the latest interview of Kieran by TSG.
Kieran goes over the entire loop and whether or not you are an idiot for joining the ILV squad 😄

[near tusk]

That latest interview is the reason I bought it today

Kierans Aussie passion

Surely can’t be a lie

[fair temple]

Then you know exactly what a land will do right? You make the resources that Illuvium will run on

[near tusk]

Then one thing I wanna know is can I sell my carbon

Or just convert for other materials

Also with tier 3 land I’ll be able to catch tier 3 illuvials right

Or is there an info sheet for all these questions lol

[lusty breach]

read all the pinned info

[fair temple]

Thats a good start xD

[brisk plume]

yeah it was dope a fuck

I thought he ate his monthly supply of his amphetamines in 1 day

[dusty agate]

Give us game pls 😂

[mystic gull]

soon

[fiery pawn]

Hey guys, i would like to know how is going with illuvium ZERO? Shouldn’t the game came out 3 weeks after the land sale?

[misty grove]

Hi! Is it known when are we going to be able to take some profit of our lands? Thank you!

[mystic gull]

check pinned comments for updates

[tall bear]

Hey, probably dumb question but it a mega city only uses 1 scanner, does it mean a 2x2 plot will get 4 times less bp than having 4 separate plots, or will we be able to scan 4x more times making it even ?

[teal mural]

Na sure but I’m pretty sure that they’re not going to make megacities scanning Ability less than a regular plot

[near tusk]

is mega city in the alpha?

[tall bear]

Yeah I think so too but just wanted to make sure

[teal mural]

No

[near tusk]

start of the beta?

[analog inlet]

Its been said that the team is "aiming" to get #🎮〕illuvium-zero Alpha version out sometime in September but you will need to be a landowner to play

That was an estimate not a "released date" there has never been any specific date when it was "supposed" to come out estimates can change.

If your talking about "LIVE" IZ will be in beta mode till overworld is ready to go LIVE. No estimate when Overworld will go live as it has not even entered any form of beta yet .

( #🎮〕illuvium-zero and Illuvium Overworld will go live at the same time No earning till Live and all #🎮〕illuvium-zero progress will be reset before it goes live ( except for blueprints)

[near tusk]

cause im looking at land next to me and im wondering how i can buy the land next to me if they havent listed it

[teal mural]

Nope soon ppl will be calling you a genius!!!!!!!!!!!

[near tusk]

is there any way to contact someone if u know their wallet address?

[teal mural]

Not sure

[near tusk]

then is there anyone here that coincidentally has the tier 1 land i'd like to purchase from them? anyone here have tier 1 land?

One of these, Plot 38343, 38344, 38197, 38051, 38050, 38049, 38195

[tall bear]

Except blueprints we’ll be able to farm before (not at alpha launch but somewhere between alpha and live)

[tall bear]

Probably easier for owners if you link the coordinates rather than plot number

[near tusk]

if u check 'my assets' it shows the plot number tho

[teal mural]

Click on it and then the coordinates should come up

[topaz mauve]

really difficult to check. I think people will be lazy inputting coordinates for each land to see if they have it.

I would wait for the offer function

[teal mural]

It’s easy to see the coordinates

[dusty agate]

Think theres no sense to sell land right now, games gonna be launched soon

[near tusk]

oh is token trove linked with illuvidex?

its the better version of the market?

[dusty agate]

It is just 1% or 2% price differance

[near tusk]

token trove good at telling whats nearby for sale

[dusty agate]

Try #🛒〕land-dex here

I think when u push the land on illuvidex u can see if one is listed or not.

[topaz mauve]

Agree, but everyone manages their risks and assets in line with their own strategy. Nobody knows anything.

I bought 6 within the last 2 weeks. Some people are selling. Nobody is right or wrong until the future becomes present.

You can easily find arguments advocating for buying/selling.

[dusty agate]

Why u are buying and not selling?:)))

[topaz mauve]

Because I agree with you 🙂

And because I love the game

But not everyone is like me and you

There is a risk of an economic collapse, there is a risk of the game being significantly delayed, there is a risk of an unclear economy where fuel doesn't give enough profit, and there is a risk of BPs being not as useful as we think. Everything is a speculation, but I personally believe in the project simply because I don't have anything else to believe in.

[dusty agate]

I am ok with selling too, i want to sell few my t1 lands just swap for T2 or other region. I bought most while auction and i made some bad decisions as it was first time i was doing something connected with crypto

[topaz mauve]

Exactly, that's one of the reason people are selling. Some need liquidity to buy stuff in a different region etc.

I also bought my first three lands not thinking through everything. So i am trying to sell them for the same price to buy different ones 🙂

[dusty agate]

Only sold 2 for 3 month 😂😂

[near tusk]

i tried the marketplace thanks kiazo

[shrewd flax]

Wen earning with IZ lands?

[gusty fractal]

imo Q2 2023 🙂

[dry mango]

only when the main game is running, no fixed date yet

[ocean haven]

imo Q4 2023 or Q1 2024

[timber sapphire]

Oh open beta

[cinder willow]

More likely 2024

[radiant sky]

someone should start a pool, where people can bet on launchdate

[dry mango]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[radiant sky]

i'm to dumb to do that 😕

[dry mango]

welcome to the team lol

[little moon]

The blueprints for alpha are tier 1. Any land can get those blueprints.

[dusty agate]

How many tiers are there?

[little moon]

Tier 0 - Tier 5. So 6

[dusty agate]

And i thought we can rank or something like that

Or if i get tier 1 i will always make t1 skins?