🎮〕illuvium-zero

[whole spear]

https://tenor.com/view/two-weeks-happy-dance-gif-18982959

just gonna send this to nick

[cyan bone]

We're all on the same team here guys

[whole spear]

Team Awesome

[cyan bone]

https://tenor.com/view/help-me-coffee-mug-send-help-sos-gif-10435367

[thin wolf]

Team "wife is out drinking with her friends,and when she comes home magic happens"?

[wise widget]

Uurgh rich!! 😪 Just woke up to 3 notifications in here and they're all twitter raids ffs 😂

[thin wolf]

also this

[whole spear]

Lol I only sent 2 today

oh I was having an issue with another

maybe it got sent twice

People will be thankful they are twitter raiders

in the future

and very regretful if they arent

[thin wolf]

What you mean?

[whole spear]

If I told you that wouldnt be any fun

[thin wolf]

yeah we need to build a bigger army of raiders.

[rancid lion]

well since this is in illuvium zero channel... all lands in 2nd batch of 20,000 will be evenly distributed amongst twitter raiders confirmed

[wise widget]

I enjoy spreading the word, who wouldn't right! 💜💪

[rancid lion]

snapshot taken 5 minutes ago

[thin wolf]

Noice,full OW beta access?

[whole spear]

And they will be rewarded

for helping

[wise widget]

Awesome to hear that. Definitely don't do it to get something back. Just want the gamers out there to find out more about ILV

[whole spear]

Yeah thats the point lol

but I digress

this is IZ

chat

[wise widget]

Yep, just been reading back through the heap of messages in here...... Thanks to the team for popping in and lettings us know a bit more! 🙏💜👏

[whole spear]

Yeah Al joined us in Kukkas Cave and talked some about game development of IZ Alpha

[thin wolf]

was a good session,good to see you in all your glory😀

[whole spear]

Were you there

I blacxked out

dont eremember

I was in the zone

[little moon]

one day more without beta

but here we are

[tardy fern]

Those sneak peaks that were shared earlier for IZ, they looked like they were built using a wireframe for gaming similar to what we do for web/app design before building out the web/app.

IZ isn't just in the front end development stage atm right?

Idk much about game dev but curious to know if it's similar using wireframes for web/app custom builds because the transition from front end to back endcan take some time

[whole spear]

I am able to actually play the alpha, but there is still stuff being worked on

but its a game enough to call it a game for sure

[hollow shoal]

Is there anything that you dislike about it? :)))

[whole spear]

That its not ready to connect to blockchain so I can rent my land out

[tardy fern]

sweet thats good to know thanks

[jagged brook]

Hello so I’ve seen the leaks they look awesome! Pretty much like the game is ready for immediate release 🤯! With that said I must add as well…plz wen? 😆

[wise widget]

Scroll up.... Team said Alpha release looking good for September 👆

[tardy fern]

that would be epic

@brisk plume start the countdown

[worn scaffold]

Do we actually know for how long we will be able to play the alpha soon?

[coral tree]

What do you guys think of land prices? Will they continue to fall?

[radiant sky]

Imo we could Face a little rise in prices, when ilz Alpha get an official date. But who knows

[jagged brook]

Nice! Looks great!

[tardy fern]

if eth keeps going up and beta gets pushed back probably imo but when beta comes out we will see new money flowing in imo nfa

[amber atlas]

---

Hey folks, unlike last sprint we didn't have a great sprint this time around (technically it doesn't finish until Monday but I doubt there's going to be massive leaps and bounds between now and then).

I had COVID, and also had to backfill a team member from a different part of the business. Another team member had a personal emergency.

In short:

• Some of the new region art assets got it in (and more by Monday)
• There were some good bug fixes and doco updates
• **But progress on getting the new UI in to the game was close to zero **(Matt did write some nice layout handling code, but the new UI art is not in, and thats what matters)

A sucky fortnight, but hopefully the next sprint is much better. Sorry guys.

[tardy fern]

remember to take breaks, nothing worse than burning out 💯

[sage inlet]

While the UI updates have certainly been slower than desired - I have a more optimistic outlook on this sprint in that a lot of good work was achieved.

Different folks / different strokes

[amber atlas]

the work that was delivered was good, but we didn't do what we committed to, we can do better!

[sage inlet]

Agreed.

[amber atlas]

anyways, happy to answer questions if anyone has any

(although maybe I should be coding 😉 )

[sage inlet]

Mix & match 🙂

[amber atlas]

answer questions with code?

🙂

[sage inlet]

lol

When can we play.... quake 3 with the community? Come on, I'm old...

[little moon]

Thanks for the updates guys! Its always nice to hear whats going on even if its not all good news.

[hollow shoal]

Someone convince me to buy a T2 lol anyone?

[orchid isle]

anything i can do to help?

[thin wolf]

Health first,take your time and always makes sure you hang up your teams call with your boss😆

[amber atlas]

lol

[sage inlet]

😅

We live in interesting times.

SIGGRAPH just hit: https://www.siggraph.org/

If you want to see the future - this is the future.

Easily readable list of SIGGRAPH papers: https://s2022.siggraph.org/siggraph-2022-announces-record-roster-of-technical-and-art-research/

Just look at the titles of the papers. They mean business.

[sage inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4kCi_ldr8

[thin wolf]

Thank you for sharing, I feel dumber now trying to read through that.you guys work on another level.

[coral tree]

Yeah… I’m thinking the same. Thanks!

[coral tree]

The only thing I wasn’t sure if is maybe since most auctions are in ETH…. Land prices would rise overall because the auction prices would rise overall

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-me-up-when-september-ends-gif-18645420

[true cradle]

quake 3 and you feel old? you are not enough old then... let's play quake 2 "the edge" stage 😉

[wise widget]

How confident are you with the above mentioned September release of the Alpha buddy?

[hearty cradle]

why can u just be happy with the alpha

[cyan bone]

Those were design prototype's Grant shared in leaks a week or two back - if that's what you're referencing. Not the game client.

[wary notch]

Is the Alpha when we get to Jeep blueprints or is that later?

[cyan bone]

Land owners playing Public Alpha will be able to keep blueprints they discover. Correct 🙂

[wary notch]

Woah

[cyan bone]

This is a means of thanking those who purchased Land early and actively participate in testing IZ

[wary notch]

Guys, since the renting system will not be ready for alpha, is anyone willing to play on one of My accounts with one or more plots of land for a share of blueprints discovered?

I'm hoping this will safe since I believe I will connect a cold wallet to a new account and then just give the credencials, I guess?

[whole spear]

Thanks for the update Johnny

[wise widget]

I've already got two to play myself, not sure I could handle many more. If you do get stuck (not sure how many plots you have?) looking for someone, I would take on another couple, if you needed the help?

[hollow shoal]

Thank you for everything you and the team do. So on a personal note. I’d like to start game design after I finish my masters in a couple months. Any suggestions?
I plan to use Unity as my game engine, I have some experience with it but will obviously need to learn a lot.

[woven kestrel]

Thanks for the update as always Johnny!

[amber atlas]

personally I've always been a fan of "JUST DO IT" ... i.e. build a cool simple game or a more complex vertical slice

but maybe its better if our game designers to chime in 🙂 (@true chasm @thorn wren )

[sage inlet]

Nope - Q2 is ballz, son! ❤️

[hollow shoal]

I appreciate it, we shall see what happens. Cant wait for Zero!

[tardy fern]

Yup that's what I was referring to, it looked very similar to flow charts in Adobe XD when creating animations but thats for web / app design

Not functional

Would be cool to see how games are built from scratch. Do you recycle alot of content but custom make make it to sort your game so it speeds up the processes?

E.g. take a human template then customize from there to suit illuvium so at least you have a foundation to work off

[cyan bone]

Unity has a ton of out of the box tools, but the team have expanded on the editor quite extensively since the project started

All of the Assets are being created by Dmitriy, Connor, Grant with vFX, sFX and other assets coming via Alexis, Nico, Benjamin and Joe

[cyan bone]

More so just the out of the box unity tools provide a foundation, although Al and Johnny are better placed to get into the details

[mystic umbra]

Why not

[high sleet]

I've started thinking that maube we should be looking to subscription models as a Web 2 equivalent to Web 3 gaming. Pay to keep playing

[bleak raven]

whats lands floor price

[high sleet]

Lmao

[bleak raven]

Land Floor Price?

[valid swallow]

0.3339 ETH

[lyric hamlet]

Will September come and still no illuvium zero?

[tardy fern]

Would be cool if you guys did a live stream of the creative process for an hour each week

[mystic umbra]

I doubt it we’re getting to the stage I feel like we’re release dates are going to be pretty accurate

So I think if they say September they mean September

[mystic umbra]

I like that idea. Would he interesting to see different types of subscriptions where they choose an amount they want to do for subscription I.e $20/$30/$50etc and then every month your “subscription” would just be an auto buy of fuel for the selected “subscription” you have idk if that’s what you were thinking

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/september-earth-wind-and-fire-say-do-you-remember-dancing-in-september-disco-gif-18346288

[hollow shoal]

How’s everyone day/night going?

[thorn wren]

Hey buddy, so if you are looking to be a hybrid programmer/gamedesigner or a technical game designer, then working in unity to sharpen ur craft is not a bad idea, however if you want to focus more on Game design, systems design, balancing economies, probably board games design is the way to go since you dont need to learn any coding to prototype stuff. I would also watch every video on game design on the GDC vault, the amount of knowledge wealth there is unimaginable and is often overlooked. good luck!

[hollow shoal]

Thanks a lot for the information! I am still learning on what I want to do. Next steps are cloud for the professional world but as a hobby it will be game design. Thank you for everything you do as well! Can’t wait for illuvium to take to the skies. I just got another T1 and one T2 land.

[wary notch]

205 plots

[wise widget]

Holy moley 😳 well, if you do get stuck I'd be happy to help out. Only T1s though, don't want anything too expensive lol! You choose the ratio / cut too. I'd only be able to do a couple for ya though, so I'm not sure how helpful that actually is when you have 205!?!

[empty path]

If there are more people looking for something like this, I'm still putting names on a list of people willing to help me with Kieran his land plots

Just DM me if you would be interested

[hearty cradle]

wen sweep floor

[oak solstice]

I am willing @empty path if help is needed

[empty path]

DM me

[plain sundial]

Put me down as well. Ill be learning on my T3

[empty path]

DM pls

[mystic umbra]

I’ll help you out. I have two plots but definitely would like to manage some more. Obviously would want to open that opportunity to people who don’t have land first but, I’m always keen for an opportunity to make a %😅

[sick cipher]

I'll be keen as well , I have a t2 and will be able to help manage more if needed

[empty path]

DM me 😅

[true chasm]

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3396933-the-art-of-game-design, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16144499-designing-games my 2 book recs on the subject. Other than that, get stuck in and just make something as @amber atlas says. Things to watch out for are scope creep and clarity. Find something cool as your games heart, but after that - make sure everything else you design is for a goal. Keep track of the 'wouldn't it be cool if...' ideas but don't go implementing them unless they're needed.

[hollow shoal]

Thank you so much. As I take the puppy out at 3:00am here. I will make sure that I remember to take a look at these tomorrow morning!

[bitter phoenix]

I am hoping that Andrew will have some video content about mega cities in the future. I know there is a huge amount of things to work on for the team but I’m excited to see how cities will work.

[lyric hamlet]

When will illuvium be on coinbase?

[thin wolf]

@high sleet do you still have the Spreadsheet land ratings? Nevermind Found it

[harsh dew]

Maybe you should ask you question in this channel #💰〕token

[teal mural]

Do y’all think we will be able to spend Sliv in IZ during alpha to upgrade our buildings? This would be a cool way to burn some SILV

[undone phoenix]

I don’t think it will be connected to the blockchain

[teal mural]

O yeah I forgot about that part! Well I just imma just be saving up my sILV for when the real game come out

[undone phoenix]

My plan too. Solid plan IMO

[reef jasper]

It wouldn't make sense, your progress will be wiped once they bring out the full game

[teal mural]

I know but I wouldn’t mind spending SILV to upgrade my building faster for a better chance at getting a BP.

[lament viper]

I would like to help. PM sent

[dry mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813013833400582154.gif?v=1

[hearty cradle]

can u sweep the floor please

ru broke too?

[thin wolf]

So Ilz in September🥳

[undone phoenix]

Where are we getting this from?

[sterile raven]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[sterile raven]

There was more above that post from Al too.

[thin wolf]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[undone phoenix]

Haven’t we learned by now that dates in discord aren’t real dates? 🥹

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[radiant sky]

We have, and they are not... But it gives a good mood if they feel confident for September... i would say october release is pretty damn sure thing after all this posts

[thin wolf]

Dates coming from Kieran, you can't trust.Al on the other hand could be right

[heavy hamlet]

Fantastic. Just sorted my workout schedule for the next month

[hollow shoal]

Enlighten us! That’s pretty good to have it planned out.

[heavy hamlet]

Using something called the 4-Day Wave. It’s a cycle of No-Low-Moderate-High Intensity days. So one month will have 7 cycles. It’s the same concept that fitness geeks call “periodization”. I’m doing yoga and working with clubs for this cycle.

[heavy hamlet]

Happy share more, but probably have to take this #799010390201466880

[odd brook]

Interesting

[thin wolf]

good to see more and more Unique adresse owning land.

[undone phoenix]

Maybe, it just seems a bit early still. Johnnys latest was that the team made a lot, but they where no where near where they are anted to end, by the end of this sprint. And the team have earlier stated that it takes them two weeks to get a product out into the hands of the public (which is why PB1 haven’t been updated more). All this makes it hard for me to see September, but oh man, what a joy that would be!

[hearty cradle]

Al said september

[thin wolf]

In Al we trust

[hollow shoal]

That’s pretty dang cool. Yoga is vital.

[paper flame]

https://tenor.com/view/merge-time-got-game-of-thrones-jon-snow-im-ready-gif-17240653

[radiant sky]

Indeed, but you know... If they say September, it doesn't need to be 1.9.2022... could also bei last Day in september. I always Like to add the factor 2 when it comes to timelines, just because problems either in tech or in HR are likely to occur. So End of october could be a really safe guess if multiple devs. In team are confident about September.

[hearty cradle]

non believer

[radiant sky]

Realist

[hearty cradle]

no

[radiant sky]

https://c.tenor.com/-UcJvaWs0tYAAAAM/realism-has-always-been-important-to-me-ricky-gervais.gif

[hearty cradle]

ser

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-knight-father-bread-boys-crusader-gif-18266778

[radiant sky]

https://c.tenor.com/f7cMdqQ4gMwAAAAM/kendrick-lamar-sit-down.gif

[hollow shoal]

Still at 205?

[thin wolf]

6392

[hollow shoal]

Haha damn not 20,000?

[thin wolf]

not yet😆

[hollow shoal]

Wanna be like you one day. I hope the rental system goes online asap.

I am .42 now 😄 that’s absolutely crazy

[thin wolf]

ohh you mean 205 lands,thats not me that the legendary @wary notch the sweeper of plots

[hollow shoal]

In total then, you still have a lot too. Just insane. I need a second job.

[thin wolf]

i have 15Plots currentley,but i need to reduce some an expand elsewhere..

[hollow shoal]

Are you sure? I feel like 15 is perfect

At least for passive income total

[thin wolf]

I want to reduce my T1s for t3 to reduce the time needed to maintain

[hollow shoal]

Like after the alpha or before? Because of blueprints.

I know I am doing majority T1 and one T2 for extra resources but for max blueprints.

[thin wolf]

Before, and hopefully get one megacity

[wary notch]

This guy just sounds like someone that is not able to comprehend how much time will be needed to mantain 205 plots

[hollow shoal]

Good luck, I get it. What region? What’s your favorite region? For which illuvial or purely cosmetic look of the land ?

[thin wolf]

Hopefully Polemos get land rental out quick to help you and Fraggy out😂iam looking to up the tier put reduce the amount of plots.

Btw do you have Megacities or is that not something your looking to do?

[thin wolf]

I didn't really consider that during the landsale, as I just wanted to get plots in each region and the take it from there😬

[hollow shoal]

Alright so do you believe there will be a blueprint that is worth trading a land for?

[thin wolf]

Rhamphyre is high on the list,but honestley looking at leaks from all the skins they all look insane.i want bp more than the fuel and will expedite buildings where i can to optimize that.

[hollow shoal]

Yeah same. Blueprints are going to be amazing. I am pretty sure whatever fuel I make I’ll probably end up using for myself anyway. I just wish we knew how much we needed ya know? I am even across the board for fuel almost. One extra Solon.

[thin wolf]

well you can convert what you need at a cost

[hollow shoal]

Very true, but I have majority brightland. Really like nature.

[little moon]

i own 3 , t4.

[slim harbor]

This is a T1, what on earth happened here 😅

[lament viper]

Where you get that graph?

[orchid isle]

Token trove ?

[harsh dew]

Mega city in progress 😄

[thin wolf]

address?

[thin wolf]

Polemos have 707 Plots of land...We are defintley getting a rental system as soon as possible

[hollow shoal]

The rental system is one reason why I might stack T1s

[thin wolf]

passive income is good income

[hollow shoal]

On god! What do you do for work Lars?

[thin wolf]

i work in Oil and gas and size Artificial lift system for old oil wells to produce after they have no natural flow...

[hollow shoal]

Oh dang that’s pretty awesome. Based out of the US or no?

[thin wolf]

Norway and Aberdeen for the Northsea

[hollow shoal]

Ah very cool, do you enjoy your work?

[thin wolf]

i enjoy the sizing and designing the well,but there is to much unnecessary meetings and internal politics. the people i work with makes it better.

it is quiet fascinating you can produce oil from a well that has 70Degrees temperature that is 3000M below sealevel with a 90% water ratio to Hydrocarbons and you can extend that well for another 5-10 years an they still make a massive profit.

What do you do?

[hollow shoal]

I work in Information Technology for Intuit. Really simple stuff still but man are they a great company. Once I finish my masters I will be focusing on Cloud Technologies. Most likely AWS.

[thin wolf]

Sounds interesting and with illuviums server less system(think that's right) you would be a perfect fit😃

[hollow shoal]

Haha if only I was a couple years earlier in terms of experience and knowledge id probably go for it.

Apply for literally everything and anything.

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/donewithaugust-annoyed-gif-26403947

[coral tree]

It’s been a slow fall for a week and a half or so at least… I’m wondering where the bottom is

[low quiver]

9 wallets have 100+? i need the names of those people so i can become their best friend

[harsh acorn]

https://c.tenor.com/q___Kdx5hcQAAAAM/the-mandalorian-baby-yoda.gif

[low quiver]

hey best friend

[harsh acorn]

I don't have 10 plots lol I'm almost halfway there though

[bleak raven]

DUDE

wen

[low quiver]

dammm ok we can be acquaintances then 🤣

[ivory bough]

An Oil and Gas 🐳 😄

[cyan dew]

Here we go again

[thorny falcon]

Hello, is the fuel extraction happening with Illuvium lands right now? Or will it happen at a future date?

[cyan dew]

September

[thorny falcon]

Thanks!

Is there anywhere I can find info about what kind of fuel revenue one can generate from different types of land?

[high sleet]

Awesome sorry I wasn't around. Hey if any mods wanna talk to me about pinning my stuff in this channel just let me know.

[trim pendant]

You think you could list a t1 plot for me at good discount so I can get into IZ 👀👀👀

[hearty cradle]

IZ is at a very good discount rn

[hearty cradle]

any number is pure speculation

[potent dock]

Without revenue to base calculations on, @hearty cradle is correct, everything is speculative. The most that can be said is: The team plans to balance all fuel types to be (roughly) equal in terms of demand. All fuel produced by land, cumulatively, will account for 5% of in-game revenue. You can design your own projections from there.

[lyric hamlet]

Jaganite is correct? 👏

[potent dock]

https://tenor.com/view/were-all-learning-here-bill-hader-saturday-night-live-knowledge-it-has-a-good-lesson-gif-17209268

[hearty cradle]

[empty path]

[charred aspen]

In ETH terms definitely, in usd not so much.

[radiant sky]

https://c.tenor.com/ko_YNeNseQAAAAAM/what-are-you-talking-about-huh.gif

[coral tree]

https://tenor.com/view/hatepeople-hate-people-society-fsociety-gif-7764138

[mystic umbra]

Great movie

[coral tree]

We might have hit a sort of floor on land prices… every time a tier 2 is sold less than .82 ETH it’s bought and same with tier 1 less than .32….

At least the current fall seems to have slowed or stopped, but prices have been basically falling in ETH since the sale and ETH rise

[hearty cradle]

this is way lower than the DA

[radiant sky]

DA?

[hearty cradle]

dutch auction

[radiant sky]

Aah... I c

Makes sense since most of the Land got bought with silv2 30% discount

[thorny falcon]

September is the date for the alpha testing of the game? The actual game release early 2023?

[gusty fractal]

no, we dont really know

[hearty cradle]

not sure about early man

[thorny falcon]

Oh wow. Good. I don’t need to rush on buying a land then 😂

[gusty fractal]

no rush... but what do you think could happend when it will be live ?

[radiant sky]

Already if the Alpha is on fire, the prices of Land could rise imo

[thorny falcon]

No idea. I guess we will find out.

[gusty fractal]

imo 🚀

[thorny falcon]

I have a mystic axie land which is similarly priced with level 4 Illuvium land. I’m thinking about a switch. But axie land yields 1.64AXS /day right now.

Is there any land staking with ILV currently?

[gusty fractal]

no lands staking

[thorny falcon]

I appreciate the quick responses guys. 🙏

[lament viper]

Is there somewhere to see what prices all the individual land plots where sold for?

[coral tree]

Tokentrove then click activity

[lament viper]

Thanks

[shrewd dagger]

Wen illuvium zero? Before or after illuvitars?

[dusty agate]

Wen game ? Or is there a release date known ?

[analog inlet]

Neither have any official timeframe or estimation attached so impossible to say .

The only thing that has been officially said is that IZ will go " LIVE" at the same time as Overworld.

The IZ beta is also unknown

[dusty agate]

So disappointing:(( i mean this game is only for land owners and very small number of people…

Nothing after 2.5 month that sucks

[shrewd dagger]

Ok thx

[primal kayak]

yeah it's little bit frustrating that we need to wait so long but it's not true that game is only for land owners and very small number of people

[abstract knot]

If IZ was leaked to come in September and we look at the roadmap than illuvitars MAY be released in august?

[silk comet]

Yea it's a shame they said 4 weeks during the sale and were wrong by such a big margin we now at 10 weeks and no where near the beta

[analog inlet]

the community decided to delay Illuvitars release till the Album feature was finished development. please see the IIP #📰〕governance-news message

[abstract knot]

Missed that

Thanks

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/zhoomfie-zhou-green-day-gif-25010377

[austere whale]

There is pretty good chance you might have to go back to sleep after September.

[vivid wharf]

All I want for Christmas is Illuvium zeroooooooo 😂

(if any devs see this please know I'm joking and think you are incredible superstars for the insane quality you guys are shipping - I'll wait however long it takes)

[hearty cradle]

no, christmas is december
IZ alpha is september

[lusty breach]

Wen is pb2 tho?

[hearty cradle]

only god knows

[deep brook]

Is this fo real? I’d be happy with September as long as there’s a soonish target

[slim harbor]

As Jag pointed out though just remember September is 30 days 👀

[analog inlet]

No its not . There is no target or estimate right now . The community decided to delay Illuvitars release till the Album feature was finished development. please see the IIP #📰〕governance-news message

[deep brook]

Yep I voted thanks, this is concerning IZ tho, still possible for order of things to change id imagine, especially since they just did recently

[abstract knot]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[analog inlet]

had not seen thanks

[deep brook]

Great thanks

[abstract knot]

Doesn’t mean it’s for sure though

[analog inlet]

You know there are going to be some that misinterpret that as "Nick said September" and throw a fit to " hold you accountable for bad estimates " if for some reason it does not happen .

Your very brave person

If it does work out you will be a HERO !

that's just how it works 😆

[hollow shoal]

All I am saying is that my birthday is in September….

[abstract knot]

This statement came out of nowhere and now everyone thinks/hopes IZ will start in September. Idk if that’s good or bad

[analog inlet]

Good if it does bad if it does not basically now there is a spotlight on it which will probably add more pressure to the team to achieve it.

I just hope people realize its the beta version of Iz not the " live " version......

[hearty cradle]

hope is good

[reef jasper]

Same, what a great present amiright?

[hollow shoal]

That’s what I am hoping for honestly lol just got more land so I am dying to put it to use

[reef jasper]

Which regions are you in? The art looks amazing for Halcyon imo

[wary notch]

Mine too!

[undone phoenix]

Its alpha version right? People should get their hopes way down

[hollow shoal]

Going to a good birthday for us all!

[little moon]

My birthdays in august right at the end! I accept t1-t2 as presents 😉 I’ll keep the expectations low

[charred aspen]

Me also birthday in September, looking forward to play at my birthday 😜

[timber sapphire]

I wouldnt get my hopes up my dude

It will probably be christmas at soonest

[charred aspen]

So, it’s actually to optimistic to think i can play IZ at September second😂

[timber sapphire]

Wait you mean September next year?

[charred aspen]

Lol

[timber sapphire]

My guess is end of december

But i hope the team will prove me wrong

[charred aspen]

I was just joking, i don’t really expect September either but I don’t mind I can wait.

To be honest, I still wait for people getting impatient and some FUD coming up around Illuvium, so some people start to panic sell land, so I can get some good deals 😉. But I don’t see a high chance that this happens

The team is doing its job to good 🤷😉

[timber sapphire]

Yeah i also thought this would happen but people are too certain about it

I just want more cheap land haha

[charred aspen]

Yeah me too😂

[thin wolf]

Yeah, you know we are in for a treat when Ilz launches, they go full awesome in anything they produce.

[cyan bone]

Morning guys

[dry mango]

gm!

[queen folio]

MoooooooOooOrning!

[thin wolf]

Good morning

[cyan bone]

I think you'll find as far as Public Alpha's go - we err on the side of polished

The vast majority of you are investors, just like I am. Execution at this stage is critical, we want to ensure there is no doubt what the DAO is capable of.

[empty path]

[thin wolf]

Is this code for September unlikeley😬

[cyan bone]

September is the goal.

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-will-ferrell-awesome-gif-14597941

[thin wolf]

From what we have seen, it looks absolutely gorgeous.and really can't wait to play it at work🥳

[queen folio]

And/or outside of work haha

[empty path]

I wonder if Nick realises how many people he will get fired for playing this game at work

[queen folio]

If anyone gets fired, it's those people themselves that get them fired though... not Nick

[cyan bone]

It's not lost on anyone how important it is to deliver for Land Owners while ensuring we deliver a product well received by Gamers and Investors.

[empty path]

Don't be sadge Nick, it's the Fraggy way of a compliment 😅 It just means it's gonna be GOOD 😄

[thin wolf]

We need to install a new toilet at work, with padding🤔

[radiant sky]

https://c.tenor.com/beOxLnTXuycAAAAM/psy-want-to-pee.gif

[hollow shoal]

It won’t matter because hopefully we also become rich from said game! 🙂

[solar topaz]

Except maybe if they should have been working on Illuvium...

[slim harbor]

If you work at home like me you can have your work laptop with your monitors but use a Logitech mx anywhere mouse (can press a button to swap between devices) then have an iPad or tablet or whatever just below the monitors, work two jobs at once

[hollow shoal]

We can only hope haha

[paper flame]

https://tenor.com/view/donewithaugust-annoyed-gif-26403947

[austere whale]

Lol you made my day

[little moon]

@cyan bone wouldn’t mind some more ilz leaks tho 😉

[cyan bone]

Ask and you shall receive

Massive shout out to @mint socket for his work on creating the Ambience for Abyssal Basin.

Beautifully alien, swampy, atmospheric track that builds throughout the piece.

Note: Work in Progress

[elder badge]

Yes!!! 1 for the Basin!!! Woot!

[little moon]

She’s a beauty!! You guys are doing awesome work!! Thanks 🙏

[queen ore]

so IZ release date set september sometime???

[cyan bone]

See above 😉

[queen ore]

thats why im asking im too lazy to see above 😂

[nimble lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/is-that-right-saturday-night-live-really-for-real-are-you-sure-gif-19311568

[full ether]

So

Do I buy 4 x tier 3 or 1 x tier 4?

[slim harbor]

Blueprints get the 3 (more scanning potential), only fuel get the 4 (easier to manage 1)

If it's cheaper to get 3 t3's that might be better too if you're planning a megacity in the future one day

[full ether]

megacity?

[summer salmon]

if you own all land in a 2x2 or 3x3 you will be able to "join them and make a megacity

[full ether]

ok, is it an advantage?

[summer salmon]

yeah it is because the land marks give benefit to all land plots. plus other things aswell

[full ether]

ok

How many land we need to create a megacity?

[summer salmon]

you need 4 or 9 depending if you want a 2x2 or a 3x3. they need to all be next to each other in a square

[full ether]

it's like impossible to buy now for "need to all be next to each other in a square"

[summer salmon]

yeah it was very hard during the land sale aswell because others were sniping the last plots

theres going to be more land sale in the future. 1/5 of the land is sold so far

[full ether]

The drop was not sold out?

[summer salmon]

it was but they only released 20000 of the 100000

[full ether]

ok

[analog inlet]

Illuvium team is so elite it will become the benchmark for all other studios to aspire to.

[full ether]

it's not ez to understand everything!

[summer salmon]

thats an example of a megacity the squares

and its not very easy the game and universe they are building is very complex

[full ether]

Do we have land for sale by map?

[summer salmon]

token trove

[summer salmon]

wont let me send the link

[full ether]

ok

[summer salmon]

can see all plots for sale here but buy from the illluvium site

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/land-sale

[full ether]

The tier 3 seems to be the best buy

[summer salmon]

yeah i have a t3

do u know how the fuel and everything works?

[full ether]

How do you expect to make with it?

[full ether]

I know nothing lol

[summer salmon]

ok haha

theres alot

i can link you some videos that may help you /

[full ether]

For a megacity, we can mixt Tier2 + Tier 3?

[summer salmon]

yes

for the best ones you would want multiple t4s and t3s because you get the landmarks that boost fuel and element production

[full ether]

you mean, 1 x t4s + 3 x t3s

[summer salmon]

yeah or 2x t4s 1x t3 1 x t1.
obviously nearlly impossible to find this and then even buy it would cost heaps

[full ether]

We cannot make offer to the other land owner?

[summer salmon]

any combo that has t3 and t4 would be worth a lot more

[summer salmon]

no this isnt avalaible yet many people are waiting for this

heaps of people own a t1 that is the last piece of the puzzle to others megacitys

[hollow shoal]

4 tier 3 is my suggestion

[full ether]

On paper, it's seem better

[hollow shoal]

I agree 100%, better for blueprints

[full ether]

blueprints?

[summer salmon]

blueprints are found in land and can be used to craft gear with this look

[full ether]

ok

[summer salmon]

if you look on my youtube channel i have a video explaining the sale and fair few other points for the illuvium universe that may answer more quetions

[full ether]

Ok thanks

[summer salmon]

enjoy if you have more questions just @ me or dm

[full ether]

Seem interesting

But...ez money do not exist

[summer salmon]

are you looking for just an investment or a game?

[full ether]

Lets say 80% investment and 20% game

[summer salmon]

yeah sweet. just asking because if it was just investment you can stake illuvium aswell if you didnt knw

[full ether]

We can stake now? What is the ROI?

[summer salmon]

https://staking.illuvium.io/

[full ether]

I buy a land and i stake it?

[summer salmon]

na u stake ilv or ilv/eth

[full ether]

Ok

I prefer land investmenr

[summer salmon]

yeah 100%

i have land and have some staked

[full ether]

What are you expecting for your land revenu?

[summer salmon]

tbh im not really worried i just wanted some and be a part of the land. ill link you a video najife done last week when he was playing aorund with the numbers

https://youtu.be/h4qw7tn3oyI

[full ether]

Yeah, its all about...how much illuvium will make in profit

[summer salmon]

yeah thats a big factor

[full ether]

Player will pay to play?

[summer salmon]

you can play for free but its not the full game

yeah theres a few places you pay to get the full game

[vivid wharf]

Damn going to need a lot more land to retire, back to the mines

[hearty cradle]

yep

[lyric hamlet]

Do you think this game will have 1 million active user a month?

[analog inlet]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero only landowners have any practical benefit and that will have a max cap at 100 000 plots of land. (100 000 or less active practical players )

You may be enquiring about Illuvium Overworld which is the main game that has the scalability you are taking about and you can talk about in #💬〕general .

In the context of Overworld IMO I belie easily over 1 million people enjoying the vast richness of exploring the world and collecting Illuvials.

[lyric hamlet]

It's just that I see the social media audience and I don't really see the presence

Maybe when the game launches I guess

[slim harbor]

I would imagine marketing will ramp up way closer to release

Seems pretty healthy for where the project is

[hearty cradle]

no

[shrewd nova]

They'll have to make it worth it for the players

[potent dock]

I'm of the opinion that marketing too soon would be mostly wasted since there's no playable game for people to jump into. Games with existing IP likely get more value out of pre-launch marketing

[primal kayak]

true, wasting resources on marketing now it's not worth

[mystic gull]

yeah, the solution is not wasting resources.
Also, marketing is done prelaunch, at launch and always to succeed

[lyric hamlet]

I see ads running of illuvium.io on ig and fb

Yall dont see it?

[slim harbor]

Yeah but they're probably pretty low cost for building hype, as opposed to a campaign or something involving partners

[hearty cradle]

not yet, what is it saying?

[floral locust]

pics or it isn't real 😛

[lyric hamlet]

Lol ok, il screen shot it

Dosen't let me upload my screenshot

Il message you

[floral locust]

oh!

[lyric hamlet]

See

[floral locust]

legit illuvitar advertisement

[empty path]

👀

[lyric hamlet]

I tried sending it to jag, but dosent let me

I see it all the time now 😅

[floral locust]

jag accepts pic feets only

filters automatically

[empty path]

is possible

[hearty cradle]

im into armpit

[floral locust]

[empty path]

🙅‍♀️

[queen folio]

If I received an ILV for every time I've seen Jag say that...

[hollow shoal]

Do we know when we might have the illuvium land video?

[empty path]

What video?

[hollow shoal]

Like a promotional video before release?

It was mentioned shortly after the land sale was finished but haven’t heard anything about it since.

[empty path]

I guess before alpha launch then 🤷‍♀️

[humble lichen]

same here actually

[hearty cradle]

delicious

[fickle ore]

Has there been any announcement about the T5 sale? Has the team had enough time to audit the contract thoroughly?

[empty path]

@whole spear do you have any update on this? ⤴️

[whole spear]

Not yet

but Council meeting this week can add to it

[empty path]

[hollow shoal]

I asked because I wanna show people as much as I can. See if it peaks anyones interest. Just hoping it covers a little of everything.

[elder badge]

Illuvium zero mobile looking dope af!!! Woot!!!

[radiant sky]

Leak? Where? What Plattform? When? What?... Did i rly miss it?

[elder badge]

I DMed the link to u

[queen folio]

👀 Ooh-- would you like to share with the rest of the class? 😄

[elder badge]

Can I? I won’t get banned for posting a link?

[radiant sky]

Nothing new... The scan leak which was in #🚰〕leaks aswell

https://c.tenor.com/T9H7p7C607kAAAAM/star-wars-yoda.gif

[elder badge]

🥲

I tried, it was new to me when I searched YouTube

Would it be worth it to take out a loan for a tier 4 land?

[radiant sky]

Everyone has to decide for himself, but i wouldn't recommend it.

[queen folio]

Ahhh I see, thank you!

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/your-happy-workplace-wendy-conrad-yess-yes-yes-yes-yes-gif-18861757

[radiant sky]

You did?

[thin wolf]

Not a T4 no😬

Or any loan for that matter, that would be incredible unwise

[radiant sky]

Mhkay... Maybe i misunderstood your gif 🙄😂

[thin wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[radiant sky]

https://c.tenor.com/7QhoA9wcstgAAAAM/confused-no.gif

[elder badge]

It’s ok I sold my kidney instead WAGMI

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[nimble lichen]

Taiga T-3 just sniped for a pretty decent price

[thin wolf]

Noice

[nimble lichen]

May not have to sell kidney for that

[slim harbor]

No you nutter, don't take a loan for a speculative investment that's not even in alpha with no figures to base income from lol, unless you're a degen then 🤷

[radiant sky]

Another Way to say "i wouldn't recommend it" 😂

[elder badge]

It wasn’t a thought I was taking that seriously, but yes you are right I should buy ILV/ETH LP and stake! Degen is as degen does

[slim harbor]

I would and have done a loan for staking though so 🤷 haha

[final turret]

hey guys

I'm quite new here, I was looking at land on immutascan, n trying to figure out where to see the tiers of the land

do I need to type the plot number into illuvidex to find that out?

how does it work 🙃 🥲

[radiant sky]

You can Filter the Tiers in all 3 markets

[nimble lichen]

low interest LOC works in a pinch

NFA

[final turret]

ahh ok, so you can't see it on the surface but only by filtering. got you

thanks

[wind briar]

well the surface the different tiers have different colours

[final turret]

yeh I noticed now, since looking at the filters, thanks for that guys!

[tardy fern]

what region is the most built out atm in the actual game not iz?

[queen folio]

In the actual Overworld, they mentioned a recent livestream that Crimson Waste was the most fleshed out so far 🔥

[tardy fern]

im thinking that what ever one('s) are released first will have a higher demand for their bp's, meaning that those lands will be more valuable because the other lands you won't be able to capture specific illuvialsm meaning no skins, which = less demand for those lands bps which should reflect on the regions price

[hollow shoal]

Did you get any land? 😄

[mystic umbra]

I honestly doubt it’s going to have that much of an effect. And even if it does, I bought my shardbluff for ramphyre skins

Hopefully

[tardy fern]

I thought ramphyre was in crimson waste?

[hearty cradle]

both crimson and shard have higher chance to get ramphy

crimson being the highest

plus, if you visit the website, it says ramphy in crimson

[final turret]

Hi, no not yet.. i’ll keep an eye n maybe later on. Just good to get a proper understanding first 😊

[hearty cradle]

while shardy

got flare

[hollow shoal]

Let us know if you have any questions 😄

[tardy fern]

where do you see these on the website? i've had a look through the news page but but struggling to find anything

nvm found it

[high sleet]

Any good land news?? Ilvzero close?

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/please-be-good-september-september-gif-12592008

[lyric hamlet]

When they release the illuvium game, will it be instant access to all parts of the map?

Imagine if they just concentrate on one part of the map and slowly expanding the it.

I would've been happy with that as well

[obtuse violet]

The latest on this afaik is that the open beta release would have 3 zones and then would be expanded later

[slim wigeon]

I would also not recommend to take loans out only if you have a lot of property and other assets you could pay off the loans immediately if all goes wrong. Especially with the increasing interests. There is so much risk involved.

[slim wigeon]

Really can't see ILVZ Alpha to release any time soon as with the latest infos we got from the team there are still some things to polish.

I am quite sure that we will not really see an Alpha like with the Autobattler. Definitely looking forward for the release!

[thin wolf]

Please make it so.

[tardy fern]

literally what a degen wsb trade would look like haha

[slim harbor]

Not advocating for loans but I just took a small Monzo (online bank) loan out for a very small fixed repayment %, I was scared of them all my life but they aren't even all that bad if you're sensible with them

[slim harbor]

However I will say every time I've taken a small one it would have been more profitable to just wait

[elder badge]

This is true but so far from the land sale the prices have been pretty stable without launch of utility yet and when they do launch it would increase in price as there are only 20k lands for all of the internet to get, and only 800+ T-4, I am always weighing risk over reward.

[slim wigeon]

don't understand me wrong I think it's a good idea to hold plots and I am myself a holder of land including 2x T4. But my opinion is to only take loans if you have the possibility to liquidate something else to pay the loans back and not to get trapped. As we know anything can happen in this market or also in this project.

[elder badge]

Most definitely, I have plenty of other assets that I can turn liquid.

[faint meteor]

Is there a Beta from ILVZero in the AppStore? I can’t find it. I bought a Tier 1 land….

[dry mango]

the app has not yet been released for testing

[opal thistle]

Not yet but soon. Keep an eye on #📣〕announcements

[faint meteor]

There were a few YT who showed gameplay. That’s why I thought there is a Demo or beta. Ok thx

[coral tree]

Any update if apple App Store/IOS will allow Illuvium zero?

[empty path]

Oh forgot about that, so December it is? 😅 (I'm joking, I don't know anything about all of this)

[hearty cradle]

we can ask the team when they do an update. They do a lot of updates recently.

[coral tree]

Sounds good! I have iPhone and I’d get an android to play but prefer not to

[whole spear]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-chill-cool-gif-13024487

[hearty cradle]

androids....

https://tenor.com/view/human-like-robots-how-facial-expressions-help-robots-communicate-with-us-communicate-with-us-robot-android-gif-18833206

[coral tree]

That’s the creepiest thing I’ve seen in a while

[hearty cradle]

welcome to the bat cave

[hearty cradle]

see... ive told you

androids

one day they are gonna rule our world

[empty sun]

For example if I chose crypton for the travel, also I need to choose many or an element ? Right ?

[hearty cradle]

yes you need a balance fuel and element

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[empty sun]

Is it better to have 3 T1 with different fuel/element or a T2?

[hearty cradle]

T2

which region is your fav?

lets go back to your childhood

did you pick charmender?

[empty sun]

The region is important ? For what criteria ?

[hearty cradle]

likelyhood of illuvials encounter

using the scanner

for research

to make blueprints

[queen folio]

You'll be able to research the Illuvials that are commonly found in the region and produce Blueprint NFTs... the Blueprints can be used in the main Illuvium game to make skins

[hearty cradle]

skins = money

https://tenor.com/view/money-rain-thank-you-money-conor-mc-gregor-make-it-rain-gif-14416503

.

don't you want to make it rain?

[empty sun]

If I understand correctly, i choose a region for the illuvials that I want for the blueprints and then in that region, I choose a balance element/fuel ?

[hearty cradle]

Yes

Corructo mundo

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thanks-thank-you-so-much-keanu-reeves-gif-21952233

.
you can cover more region by buying multiple T1s

[empty sun]

Other points ? Criteria ?

Is it a useless to buy 2 t1 in the same région ?

[hearty cradle]

my plots are in crimson and halycon

fire and water

if you have a plot in each region, you will cover all of the affinities

[empty sun]

And why one T2 is better than 3 t1 ?

More production ?

[hearty cradle]

a T2 has 3.9x fuel production
and 7.8 element production

with the price of 3x of T1

T2 is very cost effective

https://tenor.com/view/gold-bullion-gold-gif-12449924

[empty sun]

For each region it is associated with illuvial element, there is a list of these illuvials by region?

[hearty cradle]

it's pinned

somehow i cant post dc link

[empty sun]

In this channel ?

[hearty cradle]

i hope so

yea

[empty sun]

OK I check

[hearty cradle]

Yes

[empty path]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-okie-dokie-sounds-good-gif-19741335

[hearty cradle]

thank you

i am helping the gentleman

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-proud-of-me-saturday-night-live-do-i-make-you-proud-i-hope-youre-proud-of-me-ego-nwodim-gif-21567821

[empty sun]

Other points ? Criteria ?

[hearty cradle]

.
do you like charmender?

Charmander

the lizard

[empty sun]

Yep, why ? 😂

[hearty cradle]

Do you like ramphy?

[empty sun]

And If I see in the market place à land with fire '2' instead of '1' its better ? What is the maximum number

[empty sun]

My best is charmender

[hearty cradle]

i like crimson waste

[hearty cradle]

fire 2?

do u have a screenshot

[empty sun]

I dont have the permission to share a screenshot

For example, tier 1 / carbon 0 / silicon 1/ hyperion 1/ hhydrogen 2

I dont understand these information

[hearty cradle]

you need to dyor

essential info is pinned

[empty sun]

Dyor ?

[empty path]

Do your own research

[hearty cradle]

i thought its do your own rocket

dyor

i should do more research on it

[empty sun]

OK I will check the pinned messages

Yep

[hearty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/make-sure-you-do-that-right-away-ignace-aleya-do-it-now-right-away-go-do-it-gif-19882852

[empty sun]

SO if I understand the lands give a lot of advantages in the game, illuvials, ressources, etc etc ?

And the management of the lands is done via the Web page or a telephone application?

[hearty cradle]

yes, you can produce fuel and blueprints

app and browser

you dnt want to miss it

[empty sun]

And for the ROI of a land, what is the average time? 6 months ?

[hearty cradle]

we dont know

you can do your calculation based on projected fuel revenue

thats wild

people might predict wild numbers

[empty sun]

At this stage, we have only lands, the illivium zero is not available yet ?

[hearty cradle]

illuvium zero = land

which region are you looking today ser?

[empty sun]

I eat my meal and watch this

[hearty cradle]

watch what

[coral tree]

Lol

Do we think land prices will spike when alpha comes out?

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22827303

[queen folio]

What is she saying??

https://tenor.com/view/non-ti-sento-anziana-signora-gif-25345924

[empty path]

I don’t think she can talk

[coral tree]

https://tenor.com/view/precisely-on-schedule-right-on-schedule-right-on-time-shocked-good-timing-gif-16489616

[paper flame]

I don't. I think the prices will spike when game is released and we have some earnings data.

[hearty cradle]

u no fomo?

[orchid isle]

as soon as we have fuel prices and fuel output prices will act accordingly

[empty sun]

i want illivium fire, so the region is crimson waste, right ?

[hearty cradle]

And shardy

[harsh dew]

You can find Illuvials in all Region but the % drop rate is different.
Crimson Waste
Shardbluff Labyrinth
Taiga Boreal
Crystal Shores

[hearty cradle]

i like crimson

and halycon

u should get each

[empty sun]

I understand better why you were talking to me about pokemon/element earlier

I just saw that the crimson region is more expensive than the brighland (nature) region. Is there a difference between an illivium fire and nature? or is it just by preference that many choose fire?

[hearty cradle]

i read a survey that suggests red as the most favorite color among gamers

followed by blue

pokemon red and blue

crimson waste and halycon sea

[fair temple]

Actually, Leafgreen was my first pokemon game... I guess that might have influenced my choice... Brightland steppes all the way!

[hearty cradle]

i feel old

[fair temple]

Maybe im just too young for this space 😄

[hearty cradle]

have you played red?

[fair temple]

My first to play was gold, then red. Red was hard as i couldnt get out of a town because i couldnt read english :]

I quit that after like gym 1 or 2 i think.

[queen folio]

Red and Blue were my first Pokemon games... and I'm Bulbasaur all the way!

But to your point, I do feel like tons of the gamers out there are drawn to the fire types for some reason. I find fire to be very overrated and it just never captured me

[hearty cradle]

im picked charlizard

[fair temple]

Tbf rhamphyre is a beast, whereas Archeleon is just a green turtle with a somewhat underwhelming heal 😅

But comparing them is not fair as archeleon is only a T1. Who is the fire inferno T1?

[hearty cradle]

and completed the game with charlizard, dragonite and blastoidd

flare

[empty sun]

So is it correct if i choose the nature element for the brightland ? (less expansive)

[hearty cradle]

yes

u dnt like ramphy?

[fair temple]

Brightland steppes should have a lot of nature and air. So you'll likely see a good amount of spore affinity blueprints coming from that region.

[empty sun]

I have to translate pokemon names from English to French, because we don't have the same names haha

Charmander = salameche

[fair temple]

Rhamphy is the fire illuvial 😄

[empty sun]

ah x)

[hearty cradle]

sounds delicious

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-delicious-perfect-yum-food-gif-16633888

[empty sun]

haha

[hearty cradle]

do u cook?

[empty sun]

I read the medium on the Illivium zero and I understand better. However, on the market immutable.com, i see lands with for example carbon and the number 2, that means that there are 2 carbon resources on the land, right?

[empty sun]

Sometimes

and for the elements we take any? or is there a preferred resource? For example, if I take a natural earth, I take any element? or do I have to choose one specifically for this type of land?

[hearty cradle]

pasta?

[empty sun]

lasagna 😄

[hearty cradle]

plot location is only important for the affinities and megacity

[hearty cradle]

microwave?

[empty sun]

Nooo

[empty sun]

baking oven

[empty sun]

so I can take 'any resource?

[fair temple]

Some resources are good at one thing, others at other things.
Carbon for making general stuff
Hydrogen for making power related stuff
Silicon for technological stuff.

Stuff: we dont know.
And likely you will need equal amounts of each to progress smoothly in the game so 1/1/1 is preferred for most. But that is speculative.

[empty sun]

so if i want to buy 2 lands T1, and i want to specialize in crypton (travel/teleportation) and hyperion (to capture illivuals), i choose 2 different types of lands (depending on the nature i want), and so i have to for example having 1 in crypton, and for example 1 in carbon. and for the other (hyperion), for example, complete it in silicon and hydrogen (1), right? as it allows me to have all the resources on 2 different fuels.

Is it OK ?

[fair temple]

We dont know if you can send elements from one plot to another. And if you do it might cost some kind of fee?? (Maybe crypton because transportation?)

The devs tried to stay true to the real world soomewhat... so time and fees could go up the further you teleport things, similar to how shipping from America to Europe takes a while. (But this mechanic is also not finalised so might not even be added 🤷‍♂️ they just mentioned it once in an AMA)

So it might be more effective to buy them close to eachother. And yes you could buy [1Hyperion, 2Sil 1 Hydro], then another with [1Crypton, 3Carbon] and if you can then send to the other it could be good.
But you will maybe have to spend that fee and even without some resources you can convert them from Carbon into Silicon or Hydrogen. so it is not required to have all 3 :)

[empty sun]

Ah okkk if i dont have the ressource, we can convert carbon into Silicon,

So what's the point of having 2 T1 lands?

[fair temple]

Yes. And the converter itself will also suck in a small bit of resources from the air or earth even without the specific site (as far as we know)

[fair temple]

You have 2x as much land

If you can do one thing on one land. Now you can do everything two times

[empty sun]

Better to have 2 lands with 1 resource (to have more resources) and then convert them? or to have 2 lands with different resources?

[fair temple]

I have no clue :)

[empty sun]

and if the 2 lands are too far apart, do I pay more? (fees)

[fair temple]

If there are fees then you míght have to 🤷‍♂️

[fair temple]

I just gave you some things to think about. Whether they end up being implemented or not remains to be seen. But if you dont know about the possibility then you could feel bummed out later with your less than optimal choice.
But maybe that happens now as well after you listen to me 🤣
Idk DYOR! Lol

[empty sun]

I have question for Crypton - For travel related activities.I don't understand the definition, can we do on travels?

[gusty fractal]

off-topic-voice, i can explain you (en FR)

[empty sun]

Dispo 🙂

[gusty fractal]

go :)

[queen folio]

Ah, the travel is in the main Illuvium game.
The main Illuvium game has the free to play aspects in which you can only catch Tier 0 illuvials and resources.

But if you ever want to capture T1-T5 Illuvials, you need to pay to go to the higher tier versions of those regions so you can find those Illuvials. Crypton will be used for those fees to travel to those regions.

I think Mansour may be telling you that stuff now though 😉

[hollow shoal]

In the alpha stage it’s important to have multiple lands for higher chance at more blueprints or at least that’s the theory. Some people have many T1 in one region, others have one T1 in every region. Lots of different strategies based on blueprints because that’s all we get from Alpha. Fuel resources will matter more after overworld release when we can use what we make.

[radiant sky]

Actually there was a statement that it won't be Hard to get These first blueprints... I wouldn't be worried to much you Miss them out if you actually play the game, and not just Look into it once a week

[hollow shoal]

More the better lol I want as many as I can get. What’s your land situation like Dr? Are you actually a doctor? 😮

[radiant sky]

Actually not, if every one gets these first bp they will have not a really high value, i think. I have a few plots, here and there... Mostly in halcyon sea

[hollow shoal]

Ahh looking for anything Atlas related? 😄

[radiant sky]

Not in particular, just got my first cheap plot there at the mint and tried to build a megacity arround

[rotund reef]

This is interesting. My theory is that all of them would be tougher than we let on, because they don't want us catching all 10k in a short amount of time, assuming IZ lasts a good 5-8 years. Also, how many are even made rn? I really did think it would be a slog.

[hollow shoal]

Good luck!

[radiant sky]

This is just vor the Alpha blueprints... There will be an ongoing bp production in the Development i think

[hollow shoal]

What’s your view on possible worth? High, low?

[rotund reef]

No idea. Small audience to sell to early on. May not reflect future value all that well.

[hollow shoal]

Fair enough. I am hoping that because they are alpha blueprints they will be worth more but then again each is unique as is so who knows.
If you have a blueprint and only make a skin to sell once a month then does that make it extremely valuable? Will there be a way to track how many are produced? So many questions.

[little moon]

iirc, bps aren't unique but they do have a limit (all combined)

[rotund reef]

Demand will be more important than supply IMO.

[radiant sky]

Good question for kukkas cave on friday 🙂

[hollow shoal]

So there can be several of one blueprint?

[little moon]

that's what I understood, yes

[rotund reef]

Sadly yes, but I'm hoping the duplicates don't get found for a long time.

[little moon]

but no same person can get the same blueprint

[hollow shoal]

Ah I thought there was only one of a kind for things. Hmmm this slightly changes things. We shall see. Then you’d wanna collect each of that blueprint. Have the monopoly so to speak.

[little moon]

it's unique for that land of the player but not unique in all lands
and if you sum all bps, it's like 10k? with all bps, duplicates or not, combined

[tardy fern]

Do we know how long will it take T1s to build up to a stage to scan for bps and is there enough time to do it in the alpha?

[hollow shoal]

No sadly

[rotund reef]

All depends on how efficient you are at building

[little moon]

there will still be a possibility of monopoly if you're the only one who managed to mint that kind of blueprint

[hollow shoal]

Very true, gah so much unknown. Can’t wait. The leak video today was amazing.

[tardy fern]

But maybe regardless of how effecient you are, even the most optimal t1s might have only a few chances to scan for bps

[rotund reef]

Ya, that part depends on how long the Alpha will be out before the main IZ game. Hopefully we'll have lots of time.

[tardy fern]

Yup hopefully a few months

[orchid isle]

Is fuel only produced by land owners or is there another way to get it

[rotund reef]

Purchase

[radiant sky]

I think thats a Lot of time. If i think about the leaks, There is still plenty of work. And remember.... If it's not perfect, it's dogshit and perfection needs time. But who knows, maybe we get surprised with an early Overworld release

[hollow shoal]

@rotund reef what’s your land situation like?

What are you most excited for?

[orchid isle]

Can you only purchase it from land owners selling it tho

[rotund reef]

Three T2s and three t1s. Excited for IZ and to make videos about it!

[hollow shoal]

What’s your channel? 😄

[rotund reef]

Metaverse News

[coral tree]

Land owners sell to a pool. Players buy from the pool.

[hollow shoal]

Whale! That’s awesome. All in one region?

[rotund reef]

No, spread out through all regions, except for Brightland. The videos explain my thinking.

Far from a whale, lol

[hollow shoal]

Let me know if you need any additional content from brightland. I have 3 T1 and a T2 there

[rotund reef]

cool

[hollow shoal]

Love nature illuvials so far

[rotund reef]

You're set up good for a spore illuvial blueprint, like an Adorious or Vermilliare

[hollow shoal]

Very true, otherwise I have a couple in Taiga. Definitely want some Dash ones.

[tardy fern]

Has the team decided on if scannable bps reset once a land sells?

If the probability of discovering bps resets, it's a really easy system to exploit imo because you just list it on secondary and buy it off yourself or even transfer ownership

[coral tree]

Let’s say the probability is 1%…. 1/100 scans….Why would it matter if you sold and bought? It’s still 1%…..

[tardy fern]

even with small discoverable % it has a huge implication on the supply.

e.g. Lets say it starts at 1%, if the probability is halved to 0.5% after 5 bps discovered, there is going to be WAY less supply on the secondary market if the % can not be reset. If the system can be exploited so you can always maintain a 1% drop, you are going to have significantly more supply on the secondary market.

Even with small %, everything is relative

[coral tree]

True, but what if it’s just always .1%

[rotund reef]

The way it was described, illuvials are invisible floating around IZ, and may randomly end up on your land at any given time. And you may not even be able to scan that day, or may be away form your computer, etc. So I don't think what you're saying is a thing Dave.

[coral tree]

Or whatever… they don’t have any reason to drop that % because the odds of one land getting like 5 blueprints in 10 pulls if it’s 1% or 1/100 is so low… it would just be an anomaly for one land to get a bunch

[rotund reef]

I think it's just all RNG

[coral tree]

I think it will be like that and statistically it will just give all lands the same low % of getting one but that’s just a guess

[rotund reef]

Yes, each plot of land has the same % chance of having an illuvial there to scan every day.

[coral tree]

They could nerf it if one land got 2 blueprints and a land that got zero increases as well if they wanted to do that though

[tardy fern]

sorry maybe im mixing up scanning and actually getting a bp. Theres 100% a decreasing probability of getting bps. @high sleet has mentioned it and so has Kieran and Andrew

[coral tree]

If so then I’d guess that increase would go with the land in the sale

[rotund reef]

But that's assuming everyone is able to scan every day. I doubt this would happen.

[coral tree]

You sure you’re not thinking of % of getting an illuvial?

[coral tree]

Good point

[tardy fern]

im pretyy sure its related to bps ill check now

[rotund reef]

If I was the dev team, I would take the easy route and just make it all RNG. Some will get luckier than others, just like in real life.

[tardy fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dNoUStTYeA&t=449s @7:50. It's been spoken about in other videos with Kieran and Andrew

Discoverable bps decrease, meaning odds of getting one decrease. The decrease is good but if you sell or transfer ownership of land and it resets the probablity, it's a super easy system to exploit and will have large implications on the supply, even with small %

[rotund reef]

To say that the probability resets, means it would have to go up/down to begin with. I'm just not sure that it's going to do that, despite what Scoriox mentioned. There have been a lot of things said months ago which have changed or evolved.

Very interesting topic though

[tardy fern]

But Kieran also said it in a video, it might have been with Volkim

@noble quest jump in here 🤣

[tardy fern]

Over time it goes down as you discover bps

[rotund reef]

So we get punished for being successful, great.

[tardy fern]

I could 100% be wrong but im pretty sure i've seen multiple videos showing a decaying chart, similar to @high sleet one of discoverable bps decreasing when you find them

[rotund reef]

Wouldn't that just be because the number of them goes down each time one is discovered?

[tardy fern]

Yes which effects the chances of finding them. Could be wrong but would be good to have some clarification around it

Either way rng is still involved lol

[rotund reef]

Maybe as we get closer to Alpha, we'll have a dedicated interview video just on blueprints. Would get a lot of questions answered.

I've already done a video on it, but a lot of questions, such as yours, have yet to be answered.

[high sleet]

hold up hold up

[rotund reef]

Sort this out for us!

[high sleet]

basically no single land plot can encounter the same blueprint twice

sooooo

if ur pool has 100

every time u find one your pool goes down by 1%

because if u roll one youve already found it counts as a fail

realistically every blueprint can have 100k in existence since there is 100k plots. But since a set lasts a period of time and u cant just find 50 blueprints every week many will be scarce by the time the set runs out and they are removed from the discovery pool

[rotund reef]

Wait, so why was the number 10k spoken about as a hard cap so much?

[high sleet]

Not sure what u are referring to exactly. But Illuvium did have a rumour mill of 10k blueprints being made

eg 10k skin designs implemented in the game

so 10k unique designs

when the main game launches that is

but that isnt 10k blueprints minted, just unique designs discoverable

[rotund reef]

So the designs were unique, not the blueprints? This would be a huge downer.

[high sleet]

What do you mean?

like a pfp project?

[tardy fern]

lmao gl to us all

[high sleet]

u want each design to be created once?

So a player has a monopoly on rhamphyre armour?

[tardy fern]

so the chances of discovering a bp decreases for everyone you discover right? @high sleet

[rotund reef]

Ultimately yes, though they said that wasn't going to be the case. And not to that degree. You could have Ramphyre Armor 1, Ramphyre Armor 2, Ramphyre Armor Gold, etc.

[high sleet]

But that doesnt work

what happens when one person owns rhamphyre armour

and no one else can

[high sleet]

Essentially but honestly it wont be heavily noticeable

The other side of it is after u discover stage 1 now u can discover stage 2 instead. So technically until you unlock stage 3's you dont really decrease your quantity

[hollow shoal]

Haha I am even more confused then before. Just gotta buy all the lands to get all the blueprints lol

[rotund reef]

That's my point, there would not be just one type of (blank) armor. Many different Ramphyre styles to be had, but what I was hoping to avoid is that you and I could both have the EXACT same blueprint, and have to compete for price on secondary. Hope this makes sense. There would not be just one Ramphyre Armor out there, but no two would look exactly alike.

[oak solstice]

That sounds like way too much dev time to make if it was like that. There is still a possibility that you could have a unique bp but odds are probably low.

[rotund reef]

We were chatting about that too awhile back. No idea how long it takes. Heard there were just over 1K fortnite skins back in 2017, but how much has technology advanced since? How complex were those skins to make compared to ours?

[oak solstice]

You are talking about a f2p game that makes skins as a source of income so they are incentivised to take a skin and have multiple variations of it. This is just meant to give utility to land along with fuel production.

[hollow shoal]

So go be clear there will be 1,000 blueprints available for Alpha however everyone has a chance to get the same blueprint out of this 1,000?

Or rather multiple of a blueprint from the 1,000?

[oak solstice]

I highly doubt the same bp, u have different stages with different parts. Now multiple of a certain part are possible.

[hollow shoal]

Welp we wait for clarification then. Truly hope it’s unique for everyone. So 1,000 bps will be it and we fight for them.

[rotund reef]

I think it does more than just that. It helps draw new players in, and most importantly keep them there. You can't measure these things I know, but I do think they are more than just rewards for land owners.

[high sleet]

I mean you ever done game dev?

[oak solstice]

I don't think land sale 1 is meant for new players, i think that will be mostly the future land sales. Now new players could buy land from the 1st sale but that will be limited and probably way more expensive after utility is unlocked.

[high sleet]

In fortnite 80% of dev time is producing skins

[high sleet]

You cant single out skins even if they are a slight variation. Maybe theres something generative to be utilised but monopolising any nft is a dangerous game. Free market and healthy competition is important

[rotund reef]

Never. I have no idea how this stuff goes down. This is why we're asking. We get a piece of information, and our minds go every which way. And then we make purchasing decisions on these assumptions. So it's important to know as much as we can.

[high sleet]

Also these skins wont be cheap. You need to burn 3 illuvials to craft them

[high sleet]

Ive worked in most design fields, ironically not game dev. But I still dont know how they pull anything off at the speed they do

[hollow shoal]

They hired 45 Unreal Engine Developers (star atlas joke)

[high sleet]

If I had to guess I'd say a truly textured/uv mapped/bug tested/high fidelity/proper polygon/vfx/sfx skin would take maybe a week for 1 person to produce

[oak solstice]

If you want to corner a certain illuvial bp market that could be possible @rotund reef , just might cost alot if people start to notice what you are doing.

[high sleet]

And you want 10k

now we want to split 10k into 100k via variations

But every single one of them has to be tested and make sure it doesnt look janky

I like the idea of minor variations that are procedural but maybe its after launch type of problem

[oak solstice]

For maybe tourney winners or top 100

[high sleet]

Yeah blueprints are more of an experiment than anything imo

no normie gamer is gonna spend 100+ on a skin

[oak solstice]

People never cease to amaze tho, i think you or I wouldn't, but "normal" people will spend alot to look cool in a game lol

[high sleet]

Of course but we also own land

and have our own skins we can produce at cost

[hollow shoal]

People have money to throw around. I feel like most skins will start at $20

And could easily be $100

[high sleet]

thats what I am saying

u need to burn 3 illuvials and resources

they have a hard limit

[hollow shoal]

You will only be able to make so many of one thing

I do wonder how this is accounted for

[high sleet]

hm?

[rotund reef]

This may sound crazy, but most of us are not devs nor do we know much about that side of the equation. So we just need more explanation from those who are. If we don't get that, you run into problems with people having unrealistic expectations.

[hollow shoal]

Hard cap on illuvials correct?

[high sleet]

I understand

all I'll say is I still dont know how theyve gotten what they have done

so I dont expect 'extra' to be designed

if that makes sense

[hollow shoal]

Hard cap on illuvials or skins from blueprints?

[oak solstice]

Yeah gotta respect the crazy game dev progression of this team. When they have to be made to take a weekend off you know you got some workaholics in your project lol

[rotund reef]

It does. I talk to people about the Pavia project over on Cardano, and they always say "we want to be able to swim underwater and ride jetpacks and..." I'm like "bro, let them get the vanilla version out first. They'll never finish if they add stuff like that".

[high sleet]

no hard cap on skins from blueprints. Or on illuvials however once 'rhamphyre' is removed from the game, all new discoveries of the illuvial/blueprints etc go

cannot be found anymore

[high sleet]

Yeah skins are such a secondary thought

But you're right that it helps retention

so its a hard balance

[hollow shoal]

Ah gotcha. I thought there was a cap on the amount of the illuvials. Then you gotta decide how you wanna use them. Make a skin? Sell on the market? Go competitive with the strongest ones? Etc

[rotund reef]

I think there is a cap on illuvials. First gen at least.

[high sleet]

Kind of

Once the set ends its done

[oak solstice]

There's no hard cap but it also isn't unlimited because of the game having a built in mechanic for rarity. If an illuvial keeps being caught alot it won't appear as much.

[high sleet]

they cannot be found

therefore they are deflationary

[hollow shoal]

That was my understanding. Which makes me wanna go out and literally capture everything and anything then decide lol

[high sleet]

since there are many ways to burn them

[high sleet]

dis too

[hollow shoal]

Welp better get more land just in case.

[oak solstice]

I don't think i seen an answer to this but is that rarity mechanic on a timer or permanent? I would imagine it's on some sorta timer right?

[high sleet]

what do u mean?

the illuvials being harder to find?

[oak solstice]

Yeah them being harder to find

[hollow shoal]

Either way I am going to call this the end of the season hunt.

[high sleet]

Great question. So essentially they are on something called a bonding curve. Aaron is the mastermind but what I understand is based on player demand and the amount captured overtime they will become more difficult to find

Lots of active players then they are harder to find/capture. lots caught then they are harder to find/capture. And as more are caught the remaining to be found is less

but they cant go to zero until Illuvium flips the switch

its a curve and stabilises

[oak solstice]

Just see a problem at the start with everyone working thru each tier of illuvials and bonding curve not having a cooldown timer to get em back in.

[high sleet]

A cooldown timer?

You mean they'll become too difficult?

[hollow shoal]

Do we know if they will be at least a counter? Like if I was to catch a dash. Will it have a counter like 33 /1000?

[oak solstice]

Right, for example if after 100 of a certain t1 are caught and it works the percent chance to say 5%. Since it now became more rare and harder to catch, maybe after a day it goes back up to 10% and then another day 20%. I can't see it staying at the example 5% or less for all of gen 1.

@high sleet

[hollow shoal]

Gah can’t wait haha

[high sleet]

I had this discussion very deeply with Aaron, he has it all under control

for example the curve isnt built in a way that 'common' illuvials are gonna drop below 50%

[oak solstice]

Sweet, perfect

[high sleet]

again its also based on demand and things like that

Also theres no counter, they can never run out 'naturally'. Just when the set ends

[rotund reef]

If you're ever stuck for video ideas, these would all be great topics. Even if you're not 100% on it all, getting us closer to what's really happening is always a plus.

[oak solstice]

Yeah i knew that part and the bonding mechanic. Just didn't know if there was a plan for release when a ton of people were catching the same illuvials to progress.

[high sleet]

Not stuck at the moment unfortunately but these have given me ideas

got 3-4 ideas in the works rn

just needa find the time to edit it all lol

[balmy kestrel]

Wen illuviun zero

[balmy kestrel]

Hey man! Appreciate ur youtube contents

[high sleet]

No problem at all Gt I appreciate it

Illuvium zero hopefully September. Obviously no guarantee

[twilit bough]

It was said Somewhere?

[high sleet]

Nick said it I believe but he wasn't giving any guarantees either

[high sleet]

#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[whole spear]

Al said it first lol

I got you boo boo @cyan bone

[hollow shoal]

It will happen when it happens. #dontmindwaiting/willgetMoreland

[high sleet]

Yeah they look pretty tempting as their prices fall a bit

[bitter phoenix]

Check your twitter post please

[high sleet]

Yeah I had a feeling. Does me deleting the post make a difference?

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-13048146

[high sleet]

Lol

[bitter phoenix]

Dm

[bitter phoenix]

No

[glacial frigate]

Guys is there a way to sell a group of lands in bundle? I need cash and want to sell my 2x2 in Brightland steppes. T3xT2xT1xT1 🙂

[slim wigeon]

do you have a price idea?

[glacial frigate]

hey, yes. I was thinking around 8-10eth range. They are in a good location with good resources.

[lapis gulch]

The only way I think it will be possible is if you move them to L1 and bundle them in opensea, but that market is pretty dry I guess. It's not the logical place someone will look for land. But it should be safe as it's permissionless.

[glacial frigate]

thank you!

[lapis gulch]

Keep in mind this is probably something noone has tried yet. Be careful.

[glacial frigate]

Cheers. I also know that the IMX team is working on allowing to make offers, might be worth waiting for that 🙂

[lapis gulch]

I found a illuvium land collection on OpenSea that was verified. But has almost 0 transactions.

[empty path]

That was the correct collection btw

[lapis gulch]

If it's not necessary and you can wait, it'll probably be better.

[tardy fern]

would be cool if there was a safe way to swap lands with someone

[lapis gulch]

But who knows maybe you can reach more people on L1 with enough eth, than you can on L2.

[glacial frigate]

need to go to work, thanks for the tips guys

[harsh dew]

Post this in #981426698333618276

[worn scaffold]

Not so sure about this Scoriox. CS GO knifes/weapons are being sold for 1k+

As a matter of fact; most of the knifes are 100 dollar + en quite a lot people own one 😄

[high sleet]

Thats fair but those aren't Normie gamers and those skins are more like your rhamphyre holographic skin.

My concern is that your baseline skins potentially default to quite a high price point

Itll be interesting

[hearty cradle]

normie as in poor?

normie gamer complaints about $60 price tag

whales in ragnarok x, can spend on average $80k for a fully equip +12 gears

[worn scaffold]

I understand your point very well. But still, I see that people/youth are changing immensely regarding the purchase of skins in game, especially if you can eventually see the same skin as an investment item and sell it later for more money.

the CS GO market could very well resemble the future Illuvium market in that regard, skins/blueprints made at any given time will one day go out of market and become scarce causing the price to rise. Of course, the playerbase will have to continue to grow or perhaps stay the same for this to happen.

But I am a firm believer in the fact that people (normal gamer) today are willing to spend 100+ dollars for a skin with the potential for price increase and the show off.

[hearty cradle]

there is a whale who spent $1.5m

the money is in mobile game

seriously immortal whales got nothing on chinese whales

$100k wont get your to the top

[slim harbor]

The first person to make a dapp with low fees and a trading window like steam is gonna be minted

[worn scaffold]

Could be a nice feature for the Illuvidex 😉

[hearty cradle]

there is a OTC trade platform for nft

You can swap nfts too

[slim harbor]

Ah any idea what it's called and if it's safe? 1 in 10 transactions don't end up in a raffle do they

[high sleet]

Yeah I get that but it's very much a retention metric. 1% of 100m players is 1m willing to spend 100+. 1m players looks very different. Also from my understanding Cs go skins are a lot more scarce than anything in the illuvium universe is poised to be. But ideally I like that scenario

I expect your rhamphyre armours and things to be extremely valuable

People are currently building platforms that ignore creator royalty fees. If nfts can survive that I'd be shocked

[radiant sky]

Why not?

[hearty cradle]

people already using OTC to avoid paying royalty fee

[willow torrent]

Until there is a multiplayer/lobby skins will have low flex value. Streamers can flex but the average Joe will just be emoting to themselves in their mum's basement. Nothing to boast about there. Bring multiplayer and the value will be realised

[radiant sky]

Isn't the roalty Fee the fee the creator gets from every transaction?

[empty path]

No, if you just send it to a different wallet there is no royalty fee for the creator

[willow torrent]

Transaction being the operative word. And that has to be within a single contract. You can circumnavigate this as fraggy says but a transfer mechanism.

[tardy fern]

I think also if game comes out during bull market and people love it, throw logic out the window because people will start paying absurd amounts of money for some of the rare illuvials, skins, bps

.
same thing that happened with axie. I remember paying $5K + for axies to breed and that was normal until market got flooded. Some of the genesis axies people were paying over $1 mill

[radiant sky]

Aah got it... So creators just get paid once, at the initial sale, and not forever?
Still don't get why this should kill nft tho

[willow torrent]

Not quiet. So it is possible to have a third party validate a trade without actually activating the contract that sees royalties paid. In turn a 7% saving if buying

[radiant sky]

Sure, but why would this kill nft?

[lyric hamlet]

It's August 17 yall

[empty path]

Correct

[hearty cradle]

its already killing creator/project

creator gets minting revenue and trading volume royalty

imagine a free mint, and people are not using official marketplace to avoid paying royalty fee

[radiant sky]

Well then don't do a free mint 🤷🏻

Idk, it sounds not logical to me. Firstly building a plattform which destroys it's only tradable product would be completely nonsense.
And second, to say nft can't exist without royalties, is just not well thought out. At least i don't get why. In real life you have very few product with royalties. Actually there is just music what comes into my mind. And der there are still plenty of products sold besides music

Maybe i'm just to dumb 😂
Wrong chanel anyways..

[worn scaffold]

I still find it insane that millions of euros are paid for jpegs, the value of which I still do not see.

NFTs can be divided into two categories as far as I am concerned:

1. NFTs with utility (think of ingame skins, land, NFT for e.g. the latest releases of limited shoes etc..)

2. NFTs in the form of JPEGs such as Bored Ape, avatars etc...

The last category will be hit if there is more and more UTC trading or there will be marketplaces where the royalty fee will disappear. But even then, there are plenty of ways to still get your earnings.

(Just my personal opinion and sorry for the Bored Ape holders among us) 😉

[misty rock]

🦒 Wait until Long Neck ALready

[hearty cradle]

this is like the eternal feud between
P2E and PFP NFT
P2E thinks pfp is ponzi
Pfp thinks p2e is pyramid scheme

Yuga is going to be both

bayc is way more limited than IZ and illuvitar

whats the utility of richard mille, apple watch can do way more.