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I think we can keep it
It look obvious that we can keep the fuel for our own uses
The person who invites pays for dinner.the person who does not pay need to offer sex after said meal.
Its basically a token that goes to your wallet
Would be strange if not
But what if i want the best experience out of the game
Lol
See this is why I can't leave, you guys go spreading false information
I don't make the rules
thought somone said all fuel must go to a balancer...
then built a whole new pc thats gonna cost you about 2.5/3k
?
Has to be sold
Someone said me that ilv is the next stablecoin šš
Sure?
yes
I'm never sure
ok so no keeping of any sort of fuels?
Thatās not good for girls ā¦
I dont wanna sell. I wanna play myself lol
Awh now I feel young again
You are young
sell and buy back from the pool, is wat Aaron said in ama a looong time ago
Would be weird, as the token goes to my wallet, the same wallet as i play the game with
It doesn't go to your wallet
I see
where does it go?
when illuvium will be out , big AAA constructor will launch their dƩveloppement team on nft games
can we get this game released already
We could expect that the next call of duty will make player earn something for each kill haha
patience young Padawan
It doesnāt work that way. We wouldnāt do it that was unless there was a technical reason.
They are making to much bank on skins and battlepasses its gonna take them a while to change up
What skills have you got? If youāre an expert in game dev then apply for one of the open roles and help out. š
So we can hold onto our fuel and utilize it ourself? @plain delta
Can I update my private Beta application? I made it months ago and I am not sure if I added my Discord and Twitter š¤
i think jhonny said you have to send a portion to the dao
can I apply to become the official model for Illuvium, kick out Atlas pls
No.
No. You need to sell it to the pool and then buy fuel with the money you just made. However this is only due to a couple technical hurdles. But if we solve them then it wouldnāt have to be that way. But solving every single problem can take time. Weāve seen people have an expectation that absolutely everything is exactly how they want it AND want the game a year ago. These are tough asks.
@thorn geyser is the official model.
But he is a drama queen like Amber heard
Hey Aaron, hope you are having a good weekend.
A quick 3 if you don't mind.
We have energy in the overworld, so we can perform tasks.how much can you do for a run?Does it regenerate over 24 hours?and can we pay to speed it up?
Ofc, because Sergiu is The Professor
you have full energy every time you pay the fee to travel to that region
No offence Sergio, not sure who u are š
So no way to do it in-game, need to be at homebase
Correct. Itās all about ensuring the system is locked down for everyoneās safety. We had about 20 mechanisms in the land sale to keep things running smooth so you couldnāt be exploited.
The other option is a Bored Apes style developer apathy where they donāt care about you guys wasting money.
We could develop quicker if we didnāt care about our customers being safe or having a good experience.
Like I said. If we find an easy way to keep it locked and let players mint fuel directly then we will do it. We donāt want to have things be inconvenient but we will do it in the times where it stops exploiting.
Thanks for clearing things up, I really appreciate the reply 
I had no idea GameStop was launching their own Nft marketplace. Would be very cool if they could transition to being a staple of web3
Lord knows how much money that company has to work with bow
Sergiu is a beast. Heās currently finalising pb2 and he goes hard every day. He just happens to be a former part time model.
Whoa
you pay to enter a region -> you get energy -> you spend energy by collecting plants or catching illuvials -> next loop
Googling now
Finalising PB2 you say
Pics or if didnāt happens
Shhh
finalising? okay
ignor that
You charge up your drone on travel. So itās tied to that. You get a fixed amount per trip.
WEN
Snap
Haha, great minds think alike
SOON
Ok now I'm really gone š
But I was firstš
yes please
What about Mozartās brother Beethoven do we have information on him

No problems. Just a casual 3:30am Sunday Q&A sesh.
Illuvium got the most tweet from that shout out tho 2,800+
So you could if you had the money grind 24/7?
What do you mean by that
yes
rev dis iip goin nicely? I'm really excited to see those discussion points for enhancing/smoothing out the claim and stake process if that was what you were alluding to.
Dw. My Sunday will be spent working on sim overworld stuff and writing the dev blog. Iāll go through some details of where things are at.
#šćbot-commands
Ah do it on Monday man š
I believe there is a B4ch configuration coming but I might be mixing that up.
Scoriox did his 24 Land Sale stream. Can we talk him into a 24 hour Loop Stream?!
what is the release date of the game?
They We love this stuff
Don't think he needs a lot of convincing or any other person in here.
Soon or Thoon. But Q1 2023
I think you might not be understanding how it works.
Every time you travel you have 100 energy. No matter how much you used, the next trip you will have 100.
Oooooh B4ch?! I love the sound of this configuration already.
I will be taking vacation days at release. Gotta go hard out the gate.
Iāll post that one tomorrow too.
Youāre not my mom.
As far as you know
had no idea you couldnt use the fuel you mine on your own plot......
What are yall thoughts of the ethereum update? Eth 2.0
Whatever its name is, itās a bit more edgy than Moz4rt.
sweet, can't wait to read it
Me too!
It is soon and will be huge.
is the overworld video dropping today?
mind elaborate?
You can use it on your plot. People were asking if you can use it in Illuvium: Overworld or Arena. And in those cases the direct bridging isnāt hooked up for various technical reasons.
Miss those random Q&A voice chats you used to do. Those were awesome
I heard there wont be any difference to the gas prices...
Very excited.
thank you for clarifying, was gutted lol
I still do them.
Yeah, but you have to pay the fee to travel
Same here.
Yes..?
Oh cool, I must just be missing them then. My bad
I find it hilarious how I read Aaron's snarky and cryptic comments on discord doesnt line up to how he talks and brings himself on AMAs. He needs to bring this side to the AMAs more.
I will tell my family that I am married now at game release.
Thank you for coming out and answering our question, it is highly appreciated.
As long as you include us as your in-laws now!
it might be Kieran on Aaron's discord jk
Not a bad idea. I got 60 days of leave I gotta burn
Nah, theres little to no hype talk and/or cursing involved. There are shared traits with the three brothers.
Cursing + Hype = Kieran, Cursing + Snark = Grant, Snark + Cryptic = Aaron.
Aaron spelled Mum the American way, it's a spy!
you gotta include this info in infoluvial, jk
Hmm.. sounds like a good infographic too! @glossy crescent
true lol
Thanks for the answers
I will get a tattoo of my T4 megacity when I finish it.
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beautifuk
*beautiful
Wen next round of beta keys?
One message removed from a suspended account.
ILV Token: 0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
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Am I being snarky? Iām not meaning to be.
I thought Fraggy is American so I converted it. Also that phrase sounds better with an American accent.
When will be the game be launched?
Apparently she often messages us by an outdoor logfire in the remote parts of Sweden...
drop me that beta invite guys! so excited to try survival mode.
@lusty mantle Ƥr du svensk?
Nah, you're fine, some "smart" questions, deserve "smarter" answers :D
Certainly not trying to be smart either. But it is 4am so maybe itās coming off badly.
I think smart was the wrong word, but yeah I didn't notice anything off about your answers
Nej
Bor du i sverige?
Nej
Hejhej
Oh. So the Swedish camp fire is nonsense. Iāll be in Norway later on this year.
Holiday?
Live there 3 months a year starting this year.
Illuvium dumping their ETH on market
I could have sworn you said you were from Sweden at one stage, sorry Maam.
Since I'm not your mother (according to you), I guess I also can't tell you to go sleep?
Stop dreaming about me
You can tell me I just donāt have to listen.
Oh that sounds cool
But I will sleep now. But not because you said.
Iām the boss of myself.
Tsundere Aaron
Sure you are kiddo, goodnight 
I've heard good things about Norway, Bitcoin friendly and high standard of living.
Can 40 be considered a kiddo?
You have a mother, you are a kid
Also itās got a lot of Norwegians.
The biggest risk for the whole crypto space is the downfall of Illuvium IMHO
When Illuvium does not succeed I am not sure if crypto will survive
crypto gaming will de-couple from defi
Anyone know where I can sell a kidney?
Please start a travel blog so we can see what life is like there, then we have 1 more thing to wen you about.
Illuvidex
We will succeed. I might not always be the best but I never fail. And Iām the least talented on the team.
No.
Well I'm going back to my TV 
Stage 1: denial
When will be the game launched?
soon/thoon. Full game release planned for Q1 2023
Loving that confidence
G'afternoon everyone.
Youāre not
It is important to realize a good game is not reliant on a good market.
Good night!
If anything a good game is what people need in a bear market. But as a gamer long before web3, it should have nothing to do with market conditions. You play a game because you enjoy it.
Not in Sweden. Thereās free health care
t5 is end game, prolly wont see t5's for a couple years
You're just being Aaron we all know and love. Snarky is a term of endearment now hehehe
and you wont be running all t5's, just need one or two
When does rev dis start?
one could say it has already started
earnings from land sale, and secondary market sales are now ongoing
Guys do you think that illuvium can reach a new ath ?
unquestionalbe... unless the game is a total flop, the tokenomics will ensure a balloon, how high determined by how successful it becomes
im thinking 6 digits myself
2024
Is illuvium zero still coming in the next 7 8 weeks?
yes soonge bruh
Holla people how are we all doing
pretty good , you?
ofcourse
Yeah doing very well thank. Just logged in to see whats going down
I hope not to fast I want to grab more tokens while it is cheap
that is awesome,are you here in the summer months or more on the Winter side?
Rogier is typing...
We wouldnt be here without u ;)
Norway best country to hike tbfh. Such beauty
is there anything left to leak on the illuvitars after the Kieran Incident?
I like what the Govt did with that oil money, clever.
very nice
you should be careful letting the beta out to the wrong people, it causes addition, I can't stop playing since i got it
Soon?What is your defintion of Soon?
we need 2.5M more ppl
well, good times when i could get top20 spot are over ^^ 2,5k potential pros incoming 
I can't get past 15 , I suck ass at battler games
on todays deck?
Thats top 20...
I haven't played in the last week , got a new job been busy
hoping to get a chance later today, trying to get stuff done while I have a day off
Probably by mon/tues they will have access
maybe announce once Karen awakes
so Kieran official name now is Karen?
Looks like it
its your fault, right?
Am I still taking blame for this one @near pier ?
ofc, you started the meme
But somebody else gave me the idea 
I hope for Karens sake you donāt have a Kyle on the team. That could be disastrousā¦
@wicked oriole

Will the real KAREN pls stand up
Well hello there
yeboii
baby steps and then World domination
It will change when OS has finally integrated IMX š
I mean, when you look at the NFT ecosystems, game-fi is the top tier use-case, and Illuvium is creating a top-tier game that can exist outside of market conditions because of competitive and pve play.
Itās over 100° where I live so Iām going to the beach for a bit to cool off
Where are you?
It may have been a joint effort
Fharenheit i hope?
Next generation graphic cards out in August? Hmm think the timing could work out quite well for me.
what the fuck that's 37 Celsius š
get your tan on boiii
Agree! I“m absolutely not worried about the future of Illuvium.
The only thing IĀ“m worried about is that the floor for land wonĀ“t come that much down I would like to see š
But at least I completed a 2/2 mega city yesterday š
How many people will have access in total after this next batch? Just roughly. Or exact if you can š
Around 7k
Itās crazy how people still donāt know about this game I think itās going to be huge
so you are in hell because you started the Karen Meme?
Wait until ppl see the overworld footage
Have you seen it?
Iāve been telling people I game with all the time and they look into it and theyāre like wtf when is this coming out and why havenāt I heard of it
how is it compared to the Trailer Footage?
There will be nothing like ILLUVIUM
wen
@near pier yo Iām so freaking exited!!

I look forward to not playing TFT ever again.
Word is spreading quickly. Was talking with my doctor yesterday and mentioned ILV. He had just heard about it!
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Hello people how can i get access to this game?
You can register for the private beta on their official site š
Ok will do thanks
Not sure what the queue times are though, I've been registered for months and haven't gotten in yet š
Itās not fair. You canāt do this to me š©
Itās a waiting game and having luck on your side. Registered months ago as well and join the twitter raider 
Duh
Why canāt we see it then š„“
If you like autobattler style I sugest dota2 mod autochess and dawn of war
@lusty mantle i would like to report harassment. #š¬ćgeneral message
You can file your complaint with @near pier
When will I be able to play illuvium?
Not ready yet
Yes put complaints in the complaint can
Same!
Land giveaway been announced yet?!?
Want my beta access šš
not yet, will be made at #š£ćannouncements
Hey everyoneš¤
Yeah I've tried them all. Only stuck with TFT because I have a connection to the characters of that universe. But what attracted me to Illuvium was the hybrid genres. Seems more immersive and less mind-numbing.
Mhm I play a lot of league but didnt like the tft vibe
But i'm big fan of auto battlers
Much love everyone here's the affirmation of the day.
"What you think, you become.
What you feel, you attract.
What you imagine, you create."
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Have a wonderful day!
Hope ILV do a great job in gamefication also and dont just focus on the economic stuff
Absolutly
The economics will come after the gamefication, what I played in the beta is so addictive and it is such a small part of the main game.
We are in for a treat come game launch
Theres a lot of people building the game that put game first and crypto/money second
Do you know any ETA for open beta?
But its a large and important part of how we build everything. So we take it serious nonetheless :P
The state the game is in now, was that what you imagined it would become year and half ago? esthetic wise.
Wow didnt expect that
I think a year ago we were starting have tiny snippets of what it was becoming yeh. Being able to rly push the quality and look across everything so far is amazing, but theres alot more challenges and work to overcome still. Can only say everyone is doing all they can to make it work.
And we arent scared of revisiting things to make it better. It will take longer, sure.. but if its a provable upgrade from what it was we usually always do it.
Can't wait for zero! Community here is next level.
What about the team? They are the same and just expanded? Or some ppl changed their mind and abandon the project?
Like devs, etc
Is IZ still 3-4 weeks away?
The art has really been nailed and there is a lot of depth to it, difficult to put words to it.it just make sense with the color pallet and the looks of the alluvial.
I think almost everyone is still here, especially the leads. Some CC's moved on or changed project, but overall.. once someone joins and see the passion and work ethic they stick around.
Yeah we still sometimes need to find the best look for things, but a bright , colorful, apealing game is defin the aim for the first
Same here man!
And the second?š
i cant for open world, thats probably where ill spend most of my time lol
Not my department really :,) dont know
Oh man, that is going to be amazing!
The last update said 4-8 weeks
Yeah same here.. i suck at autobattles but ill happily go around capturing luvis :,P
Nw. I love your art work btw, even when they get leaked unfinished š
And moneyš gotta get that Revdis
Haha yeh 𤣠nothing i can do about it
Hmm some paper hand may sell and I can pick up more plots
Thanks tho!
Exactly, just let me explore and build a base!
I wish, I have the perfect setup for a megacity,but I have this little person(shit) who won't list and there is no bidding..
What was missing for the Umbre illuvitar? It looked amazing but you said it was wip?
Few tiny final tweaks and color balancing
He started leaking everything even without a background n shit
I wonder if it's me š
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Can't wait to see the full line upš can you share something on dark holosš¬
thats for Grant i bet, his tech lol
U can use the blockscan chat thing via etherscan, and msg their wallets
for dark holos
That your work is still amazing even though it's half baked. I think he got it across
The Andrew Wall interview with TSG literally an hour ago. One of the best interviews I've seen. Andrew is a goddammmmm genius
Alpha leaks?
Haha its the teams work, i think the ones he shared were from svetlana :,)
Much alpha for me, I try and keep up with all the investing info. He says some exciting stuff. I won't ruin it.
Cuz ur c alled the wall ofc! š¤š
Welll...her work is amazing
It rly is!!
That was 5 years ago, my channel been named after Pink Floyd album!!
If I contact the person he has all the powers and knows I want it and can dictate the price.
Ohhh okay.. i though it was a name thingie
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No, but that's probably why he never likes or replies to my comments. Cos I look like some sick stalker
Or his wife ? : l
His wife's job is to manage all his illuvium land
Fulltime job at that too. 7 plots he was aiming for
well at least u can negotiate
How come all the volume appears to be for T1s, and basically none for any of the other tiers?
bc it has the largest supply, and typically the most accessible
Andrew Wall (Awall) stops by to discuss his thoughts on the Illuvium Land sale and how he feels about the $72 million revenue generated! Will T5's drop so close to the previous Land Sale?!
Also, we dive in deep into Illuvitars and what is the most efficient way to market a product such as that?!
We talk all things about Illuvium Land! Illuvium...
Yea I get that, but just a bit odd that none of the other tiers appear to have any volume
Likely too that a larger percentage of people who bought T1's are flippers because they are cheaper and easier to buy multiple of
i dont negotiate with hostagetakers...
Why's it odd?, its statistically more likely to have more action aka Volume in lower tiers, as it is more accessible, and cheaper price, plus more flippers as flippers aim for most profit and least risk. I'd say it'll be more odd, in more volume in higher tiers vs base
probably will cave later,so its a good idea
is eth going back its falling so much
ETA for last invite for beta
I think you underestimate the value of a megacity
You can probably flip the megacity for immediate profit after completing it
This makes sense actually!
iam not selling my land,why would you?
why cant i have land in the middle of the water, i wanna be special XD
You can have land in Halcyon Sea.
I am just saying that you get more value than you pay for pretty easily when completing your megacity even though the price for the last piece might be high
thats not in water tho
i want it directly in that pool heh
Well...we all do. Zoom out hahahaha
You can get a T0 and imagine that is why you canāt sell your fuel. The tanker trucks canāt get to your land. š
i know what you mean,you can see people list their T1 Next to a T3 at like 6-10 Eth and there is no way i would pay that much for a T1.
if it completes a megacity it is actually reasonable price for the T1
if there are multiple T4s in the megacity than price should be even higher
not to me,but as it is now its not available and i still have 2 months to get it.
its hard to say its worth imo, first few months wont even have fuel profits, so the megacity boost might not be the "worth" megacity doesnt boost blueprint production. Once the economy goes live tho, it could be worth more. Not many exact details on megacity
yeah the price is heavily depending on the megacity
but you get:
- Fuel Boost for every plot
- Landmark boost for every plot
- huge time advantage (easier management)
- more resources to build
- future advantages like building ships etc
- you only need some buildings once in the city
...
do you yourself have a T1 next to a T3 or T4 you want to sellš becuase you are really shilling buying a T1 at an insane amount.
Think sandbox land, when it was first out was useless for the better part of 3 years, now try and buy a single plot for the origanal 37.00 usd. I can see Illuvium lands being way more than sandbox in a way shorter time frame
so with megaticties, if a T3 gives 100% more production, does that pass on to the other cities or just the elemental boost? I know they are still developing MC so anything could still and will change.
I got sniped with my T4 megacity myself š
but I also have some T1 ofc
hard to compare like that, sandbox land are very much different. Where the game revolves around the lands, rather than a side game. And its a different time in the market, it very well could, but merely its a hard comparison at current rates
i wished i used multiple wallets for the landsale to avoid drawing attention..
yeah it helps having some non connected wallets, but I made a mistake too š„µ
You can transfer lands to different wallets via tokentrove
u can make multiple wallets, with no cost tho lol
when I was buying sandbox land Eth was at 120.00 usd, I agree they have different uses
So how many y'all degens gonna switch your PFPs from lizards to Illuvitars?

Summarise in 5 words? I'm doing my makeup
did not think of that at the time,and i was not expecting people to be such dicksš
I can't believe someone just bought that crimson waste plot T1 ughh
I can't choose between my children
takes so long to transfer the damn money into IMX
we all have favorites ...
But you never make it known
Never and to the grave
I only have one and I still can't decide on a favourite
Actual child vs PFP?
though one.
how do you change/add weapons to your ranger in the beta
kahbe
Shift right Click
or Ctrl Alt Del...
did not know that closed the current program...
lmao, u learn smth new everyday
crtl f used to do the froggy, but mightve been removed already
Illuvitar trailer incoming
Andrew Wall (Awall) stops by to discuss his thoughts on the Illuvium Land sale and how he feels about the $72 million revenue generated! Will T5's drop so close to the previous Land Sale?!
Also, we dive in deep into Illuvitars and what is the most efficient way to market a product such as that?!
We talk all things about Illuvium Land! Illuvium...
Major partnership with Gamestop....Gamestop Bullish on Illuvium.
Andrew basically said every Dev is free to leak as much as they can...
i think only to a certain aspect, they had some beta users sign nda's, i dont think devs wouldve been working without a NDA
its weekend turn around š
Yeah, Sunday for me bruh, time to go to church in a bit.
oww shieee have fun š
haha
@lusty mantle idk Kyle's are the only thing stopping Aliens from invading Earth.
Kek
I was taking some libertiesš¬ but watch the video.
I actually didnāt think I would be happy to see eth finally taking its hit
But it needed to happen and Iām glad it finally is happening
I think it will take a even bigger hit š
Oh I hope it does
It would be miraculous to be able to pick up eth below 1k again
Not miraculous..i mean it dipped more than now before and we looking at a very grim financial situation around the globe
So i think it is extremely probable
I was hoping they were saving the trailer or whatever was the surprise for the weekend but now Iām thinking theyāre going to do all the surprises and the giveaway winners around the T5 auction. I feel like theyāre going to want to make the T5 seem like a big event not just for the people getting the T5ās but for the overall community. People are going to hear about illuvium after the T5 auction that is almost a give in. It is starting to make more sense to me that they are waiting to drop all the exciting news around the T5 Auction. Does anyone think this theory I have could potentially hold some weight or have I been left too long alone with my thoughts.
I thought the surprise was right after the land sale
The world just needs two years to breathe and then weāll be able to come back

Yeah but Iām not going off of that anymore because that obviously didnāt happen Iām trying to think of why that may be
After the halving of 2024 the price will jump like crazy as it always does...people lack patience and long term vision in this days we live in...everyone wanna be rich in 2 3 days
They always deliver, I'm not worried š¤·āāļø
land sale not over yet
People get more anxious by day and don't like long term investments anymore
we got 2 more T5s
True land sale isn't over
Exactly. But if someone told you, you could be a millionaire in 3 years you would not think that was possible but people are just so short sighted in the market they lack the ability to see that far into the future for some reason with those things
I think we could see the T5 auction hopefully by next weekend.
No one has the patience anymore...that's why crypto is such a profitable space for people with patience and control over their emotions
Thatās why I love being dead inside
Kidding. Kidding most of the time
For what the beta access?
@near pier did you say the emails for the beta would be sent out today and then access would probably be available Monday?
Emails or access
*Soon
We still gotta announce the list of ppl
Iām off work Tuesday so if I get an email thatād be sick as hell
Okay sweet
When do you think that announcement would be done? Or is the announcement also done at the same time you send the emails
morning
Pretty soon my man⦠then emails hopefully by Tuesday
Soon ā¢ļø
Is there a way to transfer land, or send an offer to land that is not listed?
I think transfer is possible, but not bidding.
I'd Google how to transfer nfts on immutable x
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scoriox did a 5min poo toob vid on that yesterday or the day before
short answer is yes, but that's a quick demo of how
not if it's not listed though - just the transfer part
What E-Mails? Beta =Autobattler? Or Beta Overworld?
Oh OK I have that one. Thanks for the quick answer.
When did that happen?
Iām watching the new video with Andrew wall. And he announced it
hi all
Nice. I saw he called and had a great conversation but didnāt hear partnership!!!
where can we buy land:
Check Illuvium Twitter. There was already a tweet from GameStopNFT about Illuvium
Excited for our friends at Illuvium, coming soon to the GameStopNFT marketplace!
Check out their trailer here. Let us know what you think!āÆhttps://t.co/kIirFbxhZs
@Illuviumio @Immutable
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illuvidex.illuvium.io and TokenTrove
Is there a way to see which discord I linked to my private beta application? Just noticed I have two of them š
GM beautiful landlords ā¤ļø
Really happy to see Perez doing well in the F1, everyone likes a good underdog story.
It looks like GameStop is listing us in their NFT marketplace⦠but Andrew said heās handling the partnership personallyā¦. I really want to know if thereās more to it than just a link on the marketplace? Come on Andrew spill the beans!!! š
Was a really nice interview šÆ
are illuvitars coming before illuvium zero launch?
We have a new video to watch, nice.
where
I'm looking for it now.
Hey, I got a question for everyone, realistically...how much money is it going to cost to do a run when the game releases? I've heard it's going down to like...less than 10$ for a cycle?
it would fluctuate, but there is free to play options. As for the paid side, it would depend on demand on fuel, which would require tweaking / testing, to even get a general idea
yup
we and the team simply dnt know
The team doesn't know what the current plan is for travel fees?
yep
i havent heard of a "cycle" based on what admins said, its a very much a testing thing, to make a balance. It's hard to dictate a demand, when its based on how much players play
but the goal of the game isnt to make ppl rich, its to make a fun game
they dnt have a clue how the economy is gonna work, thats why we gonna have IZ alpha
the profits would reside with the illuvials, rather than selling fuel, as only land produce fuel
I thought different Tiers would each require more money to travel. So $10 for Tier 1 wouldnāt be bad. And Tier 5 could be $50
the tier of lands doesnt affect travel
this is a demand driven economy, so we just have to figure it out later
higher tiers, jus get higher fuel production, u can use it or sell it. Doesn't mean u would cost more for one or other, u dont even need land to travel
Ouch as an investor, cool as a gamer.
thats why any ROI/rev estimation is right off the butt
Last I heard, there are different travel types, which go up in price. But if the bottom one is <10$... the most expensive I'm guessing is around 100$
games require players to keep it fun, so keeping it as a main goal is better for longevity
nft games rn, are too $ centered, more investors than real gamers, and they arent rlly fun. The userbase is heavy affected by profits
Obviously...I'm a gamer. The game has to be good yes. That doesn't mean that I agree with lowering the already extremely cheap 50$ access fee to under 10$
As far as pricing goes, Iāve heard lots of different thoughts, so I wonāt speculate there. But we do know for sure that traveling to a T5 version of a region will cost considerably more than the T1 version. I remember one of the cofounders (maybe Aaron) said that they spoke to an economist who said they should try and bring down the cost to travel for the cheapest region to somewhere less than 10$. This was awhile ago though, so that all could have changed
That's how we grow the network and make it more valuable, bring more gamers on and make the game fun.
but we do have a cost base (land price)
so we can work things up from it
we can give plot a 30% ROI and calculate the fuel price
Main stream gamers, most of them in America, are totally against P2W games. In Asian markets it's fine though, that's the norm there.
everyone should be against p2w XD, if u like p2w, u gotta be ballin
What the hell do you think Illuvium is lol? You have to pay to win? Did you not realize? You are just paying other players.
There are a lot of buckets in gaming, they are just 1 bucket of users.
to an extent, it still allows regular players. The overworld and survival should be more balanced, with less cost. The land is a lil more OP but doesnt make ur overworld experience any advantage. Besides the revenue. The fuel will still be consumed in the same manor
im hoping Illuvium will be P4F - play for fun
there isnt any p2w items in over world (yet) to be known. So based on current rate, its somewhat "fair" as all players could travel, and get illuviuls as a t5 owner would
im gonna have to sell everything then
yeah OP in terms of fuel production, but extra fuel doesnt mean youd climb the overworld leaderboard any faster
illuvials stats are randomized, so it is P2W
still should be somewhat similar to one and another
We dnt want that
its still obtainable by collecting as a regular player, u dont need to pay for the highest stats. The RNG of stats, makes it somewhat more fair
randomized stats is the driver of tx fee, means revdis
Casuals will farm illuvials and sell the perfect stats illuvials to whales/pros
I wonder if their plan is really for people to make moneyā¦. Kieran has mentioned multiple times that he wants real gamers who enjoy the game for 2-3 years and in the end they get 80% of what they spent back. It canāt be such that everyone makes money playing or it ends up just like Axie
well it will be up to the DAO to find a balance ultimately
If you want to profit ingame you will almost certainly need to be one of the top players in a game mode
How good you need to be is the variable imo
Is there a single crypto out there that is priced this efficiently based on ROI
where 1 guy makes money another 1 loses its always bin like that and it always will be
Depends, you can profit in alot of ways imo. If youre a land owner, u can already get fuel. As a overworld player, you can get lucky on illuviuals alone could gain u decent profit. You dont need to be top player to make profit
True, plus EV is probably a better way to put it
You cant just ignore the context of crypto and nfts, Illuvium doesnt exist in isolation
Jpgs are selling for hundreds of thousands
$200 what does that mean? I think the illuvium Dao is responsible enought to balance the equation.
They're pretty good so far!
So PFPs that give you access to a discord are worth more then land with utility and real ROI just because the ROI doesnt instantly pay off the cost of the land??? Go invest in goblintown then if you want nfts to give you a community
Ok so ILV land is overvalued, which NFT is not in your opinion?
Ethlizards
Id love to invest because to me ILV land is by the far the best and has the most utility
Ethlizards are one of the only pfp projects that really interests me but Ill still take illuvium anyday
Why do fuel costs matter for revenue? Its all about whatever gets the most people spending for fuel and there is nothing saying that isnt 10 dollars
theres alot more math to be done. There isnt info about how many fuel is produced per day, what if you produce 1000 fuel per date, at each fuel, selling 10$ a piece, thats 10k a day. Ofc thats probably not the case, but there is a balance to be tested
Fuel revenue will be 5% of ingame revenue no matter what, do you have any reason to say that 50 dollar fees will result in more revnue then 10 dollar fees other then it being a higher price?
kieran did state, fuel will be adjusted during illuvium zero's alpha. While price of fuel might be less, it could be made up by more fuel produced
Charging more than 10 dollars for the fuel to travel on the overworld will probably stop a lot of players interested in checking out the game. They will think it's insane to pay money, especially more than 10 dollars, just to go explore the map and play once
Then why not make it free and go with a cosmetic revenue approach? Then you literally have the ENTIRE player base because you're focusing on rev through cosmetics
I personally think I would spend alot more if it costs 10 per travel then 50, atleast if I was approaching it as a casual gamer
there is a free to play option, so u can still play, and sell t0 illuviuals i believe (even for small amounts) u can save enough to travel and start earning that way
!f2p
You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience of the Tier 0 regions will familiarize you with Illuvium and wonāt feel like an āabridgedā version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience! If you like it, you can then decide to opt into the paid experience, start collecting NFTs from higher tiered regions and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game where the NFTs you gather start to hold more value as well.
Just after game launch, when everyone starts fresh, you might even be able to sell free Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX for ETH, but there is no guarantee for that.
@obtuse patrol is there any reason 50 will lead to higher ingame revenue over 10? What are you basing this off?
Mind you, nobody has actually told me what the current plan is. What the hell has happened to this discord in the last 8 months?
Why not 100? Why not 1000? You are misunderstanding the system. Land owners will recieve 5% of ingame revenue regardless of fuel price. The fuel price needs to be set at a market equlibrium where the number of players * fuel cost is the max, accounting for the increase in players due to a lower price
This price will be decided by finding this equlibrum as accurately as possible. It simply doesnt make sense to say one fuel price will create more revenue then another simply because its higher, it just doesnt work that way
These details are not out yet. No one knows what the costs will be. It is all a work in progress.
people who bought land should not worry about ROI from fuel. It simply wont do it.
just focus on BP
Yeah I'm not misunderstanding anything... however if the game doesn't expect at least 1b+ in rev annually, but then still sold land for 40k a piece... based on fuel (if it's not based on fuel than T4s should have a very very considerable advantage scanning for blueprints vs t1)
Maybe you shouldnt invest in land if you think thats unrealistic
Fuel is not suppose to pay landowners enough to recover the full investment. It's just a "gamified staking" the fuel income is like a little interest you get by owning the NFT and playing a game
And I still see how this has anything to do with the $50 v $10 debate, whatever fuel price maximises ingame revenue is optimal. Saying that higher price guarentees higher revenue is straight up wrong
Bro you dont understand higher fuel prices doesnt automatically lead to higher revenue
The team also consistently mentioned that land will provide fuel and resources for ALL illuvium games in the future, so it's a long term play.
This is primary school logic mate
What UnoPro is saying about the price is right
How can I play this game
land is a min 5 years investment, just chill and enjoy the sun
True
But if u can sell your land much more than you pay ⦠maybe
it's too late for that now
Just 20k land released over 100k
we will not vote for more land 
Did we forget the point of land is that it gives you a chance at producing your own NFT? It was said in Illuvium YouTube video. Gas is just as a icing on the cake
Like aaron said, they most likely arent going to release more plots UNTIL the demand is exceeding the supply. Landlords are going to eat before more are inducted
20k and thats it folks
we gonna be rich
Blueprints is a bonus
I am considering my fuel production as, like Kieran described once, "gamified staking". Just a little interest rate for owning the NFT that you make by playing ILVZ. And the Blueprint part is a bonus. But it all depends on the success of the main game, of course.
yea, maybe so
tbh if thats gonna be the way it is i sell my land and stake in the slp pool is gonna make me more money
kieran also said he prefer SLP over land lol
We will see what is like only when the main game is up and running
hoping it succeeds and gets the attention it deserves on the web2 gaming news media, bringing more players in.
So is anyone feeling like they are going to buy illuvitars? I believe I wont
Nobody is buying those things lol. Not for a PfP, it's good art don't get me wrong, but buying for a pfp idk, too busy.
i rather lose the money somewhere else
I was just saying, maybe if you could make your own PfP for like...20-50$ that could sell...sure.
AGREE
Like @civic mason did with SimpLizards? Just sayin
it is a cash grab
Starting to make good points..sadly.
you need to know why land was proposed in the first place
That was my question in live stream he answered: he put SLP > Land > Illuvitars
No, that's TOTALLY different lol. I meant actually make their own custom pfp with assets, put them together any way they like. OR, boxes with certain assets that you could use once you had the ones you wanted.
Guessing most will sell land and move to SLP since land is only 5% rev?
Well, I was took, so ok
i wonder how many people bought land that didn't already have SLP, don't think it would be that many myself
Whatcha mean took? I'm lost
Yo, how's it going rich? Doing alright, just feeling the stress of the market lol
i no longer like the phrase : "to the moon"
yeeee
I would buy one if they were relatively cheap <$50USD for a pfp. Otherwise I will have to wait to see if they make utility to warrant spending any money on it.
dont worry it goes around the earth
I plan to just get 1 small one to have when I play, not because I think it will be worth anything
At this point i don't believe spending some cash for a pfp in a game that wont allow others you already owned. i'd just stay without one, but then again that's just me
time to start planet hopping, next is mars, away from the furnace
You could literally mint some t0 for free
dont need to buy
will it really be mints? I thought it would simply be illuvitar choices to fill the empty space of the avatar
People could mint infinite NFTs in hope to farm money
Is this a bad thing?
well, yes. If you can do this, the nft would actually be worthless
Some royalties still go to Illuvium I assume and I don't know if T0s are intended to have worth anyway
I dont mind if they are dirt cheap if its just so everyone can have one
If it's bought on ETH and minted on IMX there will still be gas as base cost
you are right, gas could limit the thing
still spam-able but limited to how much you willing to blow on gas
they call it "virtual" illuvitar tho. I dont really understand how virtual it is, but it might mean what i said
I imagine they will have some default ingame options that are entirely free so everyone has something
I'm confirming what that means exactly, I will let you know... I was under the impression its an NFT still because the bonding of accessories and such
Which means minting
thanks. Not an emergency tho š just curious
We are still working on an overall FAQ so its good to have questions
and planning an Illuvitar based reddit ama with Aaron
@near pier Wen answer to my question? It's been a while now
when I unbox illuvitars will i get their individual parts which I can then mix and match to create my Ideal one?
Calling illuvitars a cash grab is close minded...there is real value in it for people that love pfp and want to set themselves apart by rep their fav illuvial. I'm definitely warming up to it. Even if you are NOT interested in it, as a token holder you should be promoting this shit to the heavens for people that are! initial sales + revdivs in perpetuity on secondary sales
I did not announce it, GameStop did: https://twitter.com/gamestopnft/status/1535371229510500353?s=21&t=h5n3zPgRLnQaR6rjSCOalw
Excited for our friends at Illuvium, coming soon to the GameStopNFT marketplace!
Check out their trailer here. Let us know what you think!āÆhttps://t.co/kIirFbxhZs
@Illuviumio @Immutable
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Thats gonna be great for volume.
You will "unbox" a Portrait box which is tiered and then you can buy (or free t0) accessory boxes (which are tiered) to mount to your portrait essentially
I see
Mastercard support on imx. Easy on ramp is key. Massive news
I am working with GameStop directly on this partnership. They are super motivated to support Illuvium products because we are making high quality games they feel comfortable sharing with their paid customers.
So far, GameStop clearly gets it. They get the future of gaming.
Gamestop is going to be featured in documentaries 5 years from now where it starts from their old business model dying, the whole shorting situation, to them transforming into the new era of gaming
š¦ strong
GamesTop
@near pier Hey rich!! When is this fabled legendary overworld stream?? I just don't want to miss it
Just curious, how much ILV does have in average here?
I get the same sense also, they have the audience to drive huge adoption.
I don't understand what exactly your question is, but people's investment amount in here range from hundreds of USD to hundreds of thousands+. Huge variety
Howās it work tho since the DAO made such a big deal about his everything had to be on the illuvidex?
Their audience isn't only huge but the media attention GME receives is massive too
And thirdly, it can be seen that their community is more open to adopt new technologies and innovations that blockchain brings
So, will illuvitars/ Illuvials be featured on GameStop site Or something?
Havenāt got permission yet lol
I hope that illuvtars can be featured on GameSpotnft exchange
Itās confusing because of the previous narrative
That would be good exposure for the media
IMX acts as a global backend for liquidity, when you see something listed on ILV's marketplace, you will also it being listed on the gamestop marketplace and any other marketplace that integrates itself with IMX
Instead of economic activity being siloed off in one place like CSGO skins for example, the liquidity is opened up and globally distributed
decentralized
Hopefully you can hook up with AMC so that illuvium can be featured in their theaters one day. They also have a NFT themselves.
AmC Gamestop illuvium immutable X equals unstoppable quadrecta
No need to speculate about that right now. Deep in discussions with them to finalize a mutually beneficial concept. I cannot discuss the details of this negotiation at the moment, because GameStop is a publicly traded company. Thanks for your understanding.
Thats the future. And not concentrated as today with opensea.
Lfg!!!!
When are we getting the revdis?
Letās just try to avoid what happened with IMX ā¦
sometime after t5 sale
Very exciting!!! Sorry phone died on me mid discussion āØ
āØ
Let the shitshow begin btc lost 28k
the revdis isnt a one time payment right? its used for liquidity for stakers?
Yeah, it's going down. Eth to 1200 lol
i said it like yesterday eth to 1300 if we lose 1300 its freefall to 1k
Yeah I think you may be right. I mean...surely it sits low for a few months if it's an actual cycle
Hmm not sure how I feel about this
does this mean i can use my GameStop wallet for Dex now?
Will be one of the best movies of itās year if itās done right
.
My bad just heard it first from you is all
I think we lose 1300 just my personal opinion. People may try and buy in at that level so there could be some bounce back but Iām waiting
That is beautiful
let me adjust my sentence there xd i dont think we hold 1300 either cause its not such a strong support. allot will ride on how btc reacts now
I agree. Btc has to break 28k before free fall. That moment is soon approaching
I donāt know if I can personally see btc going below 20k 18 max but weāll have to see where we find new support after 28
euhm hello ser ?
Oh shit Iām at work donāt have me charts
Well this will be an interesting week
for sure it will be. its all up to papa BTC now
Interesting half year
i got support at 24k and a major major support on 20k wich i dont see getting breached
Nice message to wake up to š
gm fraggy!
im sorry love, its the name of the game
You should go back to sleep I think š
You used to like it when I'm around
I like it, but when youāll read a few conversation that went on during your sleep and all the questions around, believe me, youāll close your phone/computer for a while šµāš«
I'm reading š
One solarstorm special to wake up 
This looks like 5h in the gym 
only 5 ????š²
I think they give me false info so I have to keep going
š
is it working?𤨠š
I'm not sure 
Gm all

Gm 
Hi! How are you guys doing?Today was another somewhat disappointing day.
Why are you disappointed?
The market still hasn't responded to the expectations of most people, including me.
I'm trying to avoid looking at prices but this discord doesn't let me 
crypto always does wat people dont expect
you can actually personnally Block the bot ya know?
I believe that many people are concerned, some people are happy and some people are sad, I am the sad group of people.
So I also gotta block everybody in token channel? š
yes
Awh don't be sad
how does one get the laughing fat illuvial?
ThiccTalik*
that one!!!
ThiccTalik*
Yes, I know. So I put more expectations on Illuvium, and I'm sure I won't be disappointed.
Remember guys, the lower it goes, the easier it is to get in early with illuvium. If it goes under 100$ you're getting in at a dang good price. Once it hits 50$ that's even better. (I don't think it goes below 50 tbh)
I vote to have #š°ćtoken removed from discord. It's pretty much pointless now
i want it at 3$ please
I'll be buying a thousand of those
Look at that, we agree on something š
I'd be happy with that š Feel bad for people bleeding now though. Been there done that 2017-2018
i bought my first tokens at 800$, still not complaining about the price ahahah
š 
I did 100x last cycle just to watch it drop to 3x š
Not doing that again š
those maths dont check out.
PhD mathematics
3x now means you bought at like 75$. 100x at top means you bought at 18$
Not illuvium man. Did not exist then
oh okay
you need Discord prime
thaank you though
Hello
@lusty mantle Hey fragg soooo ummm why do i see locks on channels. Never really questioned it till now
Currently, text channels will only show the lock icon when the @ everyone role is specifically denied the "view channel" permissions on it. However, voice channels will show it whenever the @ everyone role cannot view the channel (by simply lacking the permission) even if it doesn't have any channel-specific perms.
if eth goes sub 1k ilv goes sub 100 I'd say
Eth is gonna drop to a minimum of 1250
Guess who just got a Rhamphyre - Genesis Promo 
wait whut why ?
How much was it?
0.18 ETH
wat was the ath of it ?
I think 0.8
0.8 when eth was at 3k right ? good fkn buy then
is it also time to stockpile santa nutcrackers
Yup
already got those haha
Got one of those
yeah I bought 1 too
Guys im broke can someone make ilv and eth go back up please
ah nah im the OG i win one š
yes give me 1 sec or 100000
is there any difference by tokentrove, illuvidex and imuttable x to buy lands?
Thank you
No. NFTs on IMX are actually all the same.
But you give i think 1% of the price to the plateform sooooo choose illuvidex
I won one and sold it. Then bought 2 new ones and gifted one š
On tokentrove you'll pay a bit more because they also take a %
i got mine later so it wasnt worth to sell anymore
market immutable com, best place to buy so, has eth and usdc available
Nice trick to avoid the no link rule
Yes what I said earlier is correct btw
About T0
Like I said stuff like this will be in the explainers and is good
ohhhh so we can actually mint T0s? alright. I'm surprised but I accept it
I accept you
Im looking at a chart of illuvials and I dont understand how the LYNX evolves into so many diff illuvials ?
I saw it the other day when I asked you OS link š
most of the other illuvials I am looking at have like 3 tiers ? Why does the lynx have so many diff options of evolution ?
It was listed 4h ago
I pretty much remember I saw one too around the same price
Lucky you
Anyone able to help, i had some ilv and the slp staked in V1 and so i just claimed and withdrew my rewards in ILV. The tokens havent showed up in my metamask under the ilv token. My Slp that i withdrew has. Also ive forgotten where to find the bridge to change from slp back to eth
the ILV part gets auto staked for one year
it's the eevee of Illuvium?
Seems like the lynx is neutral and has a ton of evolution paths .
aghhh that makes sense now. Thankyou
GME brought me here
welcome!
Welcome brother
glad to be here
i'll catch you up. infoluvial.io for all info in one place
What is happening
Sorry for the spam @lusty mantle
This is unnecessary
oof
ummm we have pin for that
FYI
great breakdown !
welcome
I was wondering same lol
we have a mozart too lmao
lol
he said welcome
how many of us started reading the screenshots like there was some news drop š¤£
@signal bear i found your protege
i just got the joke....fml
Hey. Have not kept up with Illuvium. Anyone have a recent video that is a TLDR/Catchup to what has been going on? Thanks
@tulip halo meet WF
Hell no
read the #āćfaq #šćhelpful-links
and pinned
Staaaaashp drikiosss
@sonic dagger whatās going on? Making nachos
Fewhhh nothing
The queen of screen caps
you should join Shiny Shards
#899655780033261639
Don't see any thing useful/recent. Thanks for the help though.š
@sonic dagger I wanna be with you tho bb
im getting a restraining order
now wats going on š¤£
Well, we just finished our land sale a week or so ago, about 4k ppl are playing the PB1 (Private Beta), we are about to add around 2.5k more. Illuvitars sale is coming up next, PB2 on the way, overworld footage coming⦠a lot is going on my man worth sticking around
Seed and co founders having a go in #š„ćleaks-discussion
@near pier green light yet?
We advertising this now?
There is a lot of public information on the internet I don't need to see
Not at all
what
Ban him
u dnt like gossip?
No.
We trying to at least keep that channel on topic now
Thanks. I think Blockchain gaming is going to be big in the next bull run and Illuvium looks promising. Could you direct me to where I could apply for PB. I used to be a top 10 world WoW nerd. Also, any videos you could recommend as an overview of the project? Thank you for the reply. 
it was a leak
Good morning!! How are u?
Cleaning my kitchen, I don't like cleaning
What did i miss?
Wow cornball activities in the GC this morning. Morning Landlords
For the Horde!
in case yur alliance, yur dead
Ah i feel ya
Even considering that I would be alliance is an insult. I was the top 10 world season1-4 Shadow Priest who invented Shadowplay : )
OG
Oh wow this is a nice way to wake up, vitalik rugged?
Check out #šćhelpful-links to find PB1 sign up, and then also if you head to our YouTube lots of informational videos there and #šØćcommunity-content has lots of great stuff too
can you get asmongold to like crypto gaming?
nah satoshi came back from the dead after being assassinated by the CIA and rugged
Ah i see
Asmon is a scrub. Did not even play original WoW
He doesnt like anything
He is already Rich. He has no incentive to care.
True
guys im telling you if we can get WoW OG like @tender hawk here
we can get anyone
i started WoW in TBC so im a puppy
Cleaning is the worst
my peak was ulduar, and then uni got busy
People are complaining that their v1 tokens are disappearing
silv?
yep
now wat? lol
Bubbles!!!!! 
Did you check the vesting tab?
Fraggy!! šš
Something to distract the prototypes
#wearesinners @operationSin
How are you?
Hey is there a land owners only chat?
It's not even showing on ethscan
No
Original WoW/TBC was the pinnacle of WoW imo.
This is such a great idea though
This would require connecting your wallet to a bot and for the safety of the community, we don't want to do this.
Good morning šā, fraggy how are ya!
Morning fren, I'm good! How are you? Did you restock the secret ingredient?
Might wanna use #796570107856945183 for these š
realized right after I posted it :D
Ooof no I completely forgot!
See, everbody needs a bit of Fraggy in their life 
Ethereum rugged
nah it's got to do with the high inflation rates that were released earlier this week, imo
etherscan search just isnt working
high inflation rates = the fed will increase interest rates = harder to borrow money = people do less risky plays
i wasnt talking about the price š¤£
Yup it's all about macro economics right now. All assets are dropping due to contracting credit supply
So I just brought my first land, Hello to the community I hope this is a friendly space. Any advice on the besty options from here?
looks like its token names that are broken, searching by address works
!welcome
Welcome! Wondering where to get started?
The #šćhelpful-links and #814084157713940482 sections have everything you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information.
Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date:
Nice to have you here asx 
Cheers, Thanks
Very true lol š
etherscan being weird for me, anyone else?
Saw multiple people mention it already
its weird, i can search illuvium just fine, but not ILV, but it doesnt know what ethereum or ETH is, guess it has priorities š¤£
Good morning illuvium DAO.
how low will sILV2 go?
GM everyone šš¼
Fraggy why u up so early kn a sunday
Always awake at 5am, time is money baby
Sleep is better than money
I prefer to get things done
9am and my entire house is cleaned, got the whole day left
Nice
Sleep is overrated
Agreed
You clean for 5 hours every day? šØ
Lol no
Thank god
4 hours
Any quick info on why the market is dropping again? Or the usual war/food crisis?
I have no beta so sleep is the only thing i can do in this bear market
soon
Bear market, recession, inflation, war in ukraine,
So nothing interesting. Just the same old stuff š
Yup
Hibernation
and a new hole in James Webb Space Telescope, such a nice sunday ^^
OG WoW fer sure...got stale by the time I hit 60 and would be years till Burning crusade hit. It was fun, but seemed...I dunno, off somehow. Lichking really got me excited and it felt like a proper sorta "end game" until we got to fight the burning legions more. š
Tbh seeing my money getting cut by 70%, becomes a bit harder š©
We going down alot more
If you were here in 2018 you know what a real bearmarket is, this is nothing yet
So James no longer can spy on our internet activity? š¤ Thats a good thing š¤·
That was hard times š
Yup haha
Gonna happen again
The world is at a much worse place right now with a lot of shit coming up
Probably. Macro econ looking shit.
Ye
But for us a great opportunity dont forget that, just be ready
