#💬〕general

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green carbon
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I predict I will sell a holo ramphyre for 135 eth

agile tapir
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Yeah, the scanner is to see whats inside the wake of the illuvial.

gleaming aspen
wraith shale
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Ilv price will boom or it will go down ??

green carbon
gleaming aspen
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Hahaha

desert hill
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I'm gonna have to get a new laptop just for ILV 😂

humble wave
desert hill
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Lol i might wait till Boxing Day

opaque peak
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I need a clarification. Am quite confused with the staking migration.

So what are we supposed to do?
And what about those ILV rewards that were claimed but auto locked? Will they be migrated automatically?

humble wave
# opaque peak I need a clarification. Am quite confused with the staking migration. So what a...

Upgrade = you upgrade your LOCKED tokens so V2 will read V1 as if they are staked on V2.
Migrate = after upgrading, when your tokens are UNLOCKED, you have the option to migrate but you don't have to. You CAN if you want better gas.
Rewards will be on V2, cuz they have not been vested yet.

all the above needs gas. Whne Upgrading you don't need to claim rewards. When migrating, you will be forced to do so. Please ask you staking questions in #🥩〕staking

thin oak
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@agile tapir @signal bear i just purchased sILV using metamask swap-function, it was a lot cheaper than uniswap. i saved around $80 😄 just fyi

old folio
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Can't wait for December update!!

long shell
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What update in december ?

agile tapir
daring basin
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APY 0.5% at Binance stake Pho_Haha

humble wave
thin oak
tough oxide
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sorry but the land that will be auctioned on the ilv dex, should be then also tradeable not on opensea but immutable afterwards? or we dont know yet? thank you sirs

daring basin
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I just got 0.2 ILV... waiting to receive some more BTC to buy more... my target is 1 ILV until the end of this month

agile tapir
abstract citrus
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The amount of hype is scary

agile lintel
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$airdrop 0.003 ilv

bitter gyroBOT
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✈ An airdrop appears

@agile lintel's airdrop of ILV 0.003000 ILV (≈ $4.95) has been collected by @stray gust, @agile tapir, @daring basin, @karmic thorn, @dusty ledge, @lusty mantle, @thin oak, @opal valley and @short plinth!

daring basin
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airdrop?

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what is this? airdrop? its for real or its scam?

abstract citrus
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Lol

thin oak
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i dunno, im scared

daring basin
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Im talking serious 😫

wild zinc
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i am active

daring basin
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how they will send us airdrop to our wallet, if I didnt give any ?

lusty mantle
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It's being hold on discord

tough oxide
daring basin
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I have been baited I supposed Atlas_Dead

agile lintel
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$phrasedrop 0.003 ilv 30s "iLLlIiUVIUMMMM"

dusty ledge
lusty mantle
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iLLlliUVIUMMMM

opal valley
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iLL​lIi​UVI​UMM​MM

bitter gyroBOT
agile tapir
bitter gyroBOT
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💬 Phrase drop!

@stray gust responded with @agile lintel's phrase correctly and has been awarded ILV 0.003000 ILV (≈ $4.97)!

agile lintel
lusty mantle
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kek I got it wrong hahaha

karmic thorn
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miss

daring basin
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iLLlIiUVIUMMMM

lusty mantle
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Freaking Giselle, only talks to take our money 😛

daring basin
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??

humble wave
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stop spamming in general guys. LIZARDS I have my eyes on you 👀

agile lintel
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$phrasedrop 0.003 ilv 60s "IllIlIuuVliuuums"

lusty mantle
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Get it Giselle, I'm not even trying this one

daring basin
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Ill​IlI​uuV​liu​uum​s

bitter gyroBOT
agile lintel
merry pendant
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IllIlIuuVliuuums

dusty ledge
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IIIIIIuuVIuuums

karmic thorn
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Ill​IlI​uuV​liu​uum​s

bitter gyroBOT
late quail
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IllIlluuVliuuums

bitter gyroBOT
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💬 Phrase drop!

@merry pendant and @stray gust responded with @agile lintel's phrase correctly and have been awarded ILV 0.001500 ILV (≈ $2.48) each!

daring basin
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Ill​IlI​uuV​liu​uum​s

agile lintel
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Promise last one. IO'm drinking and couldnt help myself

lusty mantle
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Swypes, go back to the cave fren

daring basin
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Giselle always win

lusty mantle
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The real giveaway lurker

merry pendant
daring basin
agile lintel
honest girder
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1 mroe ser plz

daring basin
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1 more to lose

lusty mantle
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Sorry mods, gonna try to keep the Lizards in the cave 💩

daring basin
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Give more money to @stray gust 😆

humble wave
pseudo flint
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@humble wave did you notice my name change I messaged you in the other chat yesterday

humble wave
pure fox
daring basin
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where I can see my money ? Atlas_Pepe2 I win something, right? 😆

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Atlas_Pepe1 right?

dusty ledge
daring basin
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ah ok, didnt saw that

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many thanks @dusty ledge

fallen pawn
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Did I missskmething

daring basin
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airdrops 😛

fallen pawn
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Yeahhhh

crimson bobcat
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hello

fallen pawn
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I want Illlvvvsss

cobalt quartz
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hi every one

inland hawk
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airdrops..ahhaah

teal imp
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how can I get a role? 😁

slate tinsel
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🦎

bitter dawn
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diiolfdgjkfdgjdfklj

austere musk
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Boring day at work, no leaks, btc down.... Anything else?

pseudo flint
humble wave
neon harness
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Hello what does the green name mean?

gleaming aspen
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Lizards finally come out of their cave

humble wave
neon harness
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Ohhhh I see. Thanks! Are there perks for going up the ranks?

graceful crescent
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Most have been answered but just to clarify:

  1. Yes, we can pick the area/region we go to. BUT, it is advisable to do this linear with the Tiers. e.g. from T0, go first to T1, catch T1 Illuvials because you will need them to beat T2 illuvials. Then onwards to T3, T4 and T5. You also have the choice of going to each region (7 regions) per tier, like clearing all regions before going up to the next higher Tier.

  2. We need to level up our captured Illuvials through battles. That will take time, not sure how long, before they will be ready to be fused with 2 others.

  3. Mozart will hold all resources we harvest in the game. For resources we buy, it will in our "bag".

  4. Not sure what you mean. But, whenever we see a floating circle, we have a choice: Scan it to see which Illuvial is inside, but we can only capture a few. Or, don't scan it but be able to capture more Illuvials. So if you are looking for a specific Illuvial, scanning is necessary.

humble wave
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@twilit junco so fast 😆 you didn’t even give me time to click on the notification haha

twilit junco
gleaming aspen
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Hahahah

humble wave
gleaming aspen
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Is volkin interview out yet?

neon harness
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I'm soo hyped up about this game pokemon/tft mashed into one

neon harness
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I hope I could join the beta or something. I even invited my friends to play unfortunately they're not that interested "yet" ;)

neon harness
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I still have a sour taste on my tongue with ILV tho because I didn't buy ILV during the pre-sale Atlas_Pepe1

plain delta
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Devlog is mostly finished. I've got about 3 more pages of notes to go but I'm wrecked so I won't do it until tomorrow. Sorry peeps

zenith fable
real grotto
plain delta
dusty ledge
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all good, no rush 😉

zenith fable
gleaming aspen
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Yes, tomorrow

graceful crescent
plain delta
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  1. No. (well maybe some days?)
    2.Yes, and the difficulty.
  2. It's not hard, you just have to fight them a lot.
  3. Into the drone. If you run out of space you can send to a storage locker in Sanctum Mesa.
  4. Yeah, but you can upgrade it.
graceful crescent
graceful crescent
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Got it! 20 it is!

gleaming aspen
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How hard it is to beat T5 illuvial?

forest warren
dusty ledge
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are there is a small chance to get the game working on linux straight or even with lutris ? or it s really out of the scope ?

gleaming aspen
plain delta
gleaming aspen
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Gotta install windows 10

dusty ledge
forest warren
gleaming aspen
wraith shale
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What is your price prediction for ilv this years

verbal ermine
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if i keep having to mute channels i swear ill just delete this server and check my balance in 2 years.

full dome
broken falcon
full dome
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also joining a discord and then whining about character leak pings is amusing

verbal ermine
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did it and still getting notifications, thus my frustration

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could it be my device? should i break it over my knee?

fierce dirge
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Hey, what's up guys? Can anyone run me through the best way to ape into this game?

neat hound
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does anyone know where i can see the top traders on opensea?

verbal ermine
fast oriole
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🤡

verbal ermine
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still bullish though. if these guys have invested imagine what happens when mass adoption is a thing

fast oriole
fierce dirge
zenith fable
verbal ermine
fast oriole
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this guy's from degen, take extra care when according him with sense

verbal ermine
zenith fable
fast oriole
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good. backtrack and keep the peace 🙂

zenith fable
hoary lintel
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i am trying to sell ILV on ERC20 and get the "message Got an error when building a TX: It seems like your wallet doesn't contain enough ETH to cover the gas fees."

wild zinc
hoary lintel
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i have about 1000 USD in Eth

wicked furnace
plain delta
hoary lintel
verbal ermine
wicked furnace
hoary lintel
west fulcrum
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Guys is the game out?

zenith fable
west fulcrum
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Is there any thing I can do to get a upper hand on people who’ll join late to this game?

wicked furnace
zenith fable
frozen saddle
gleaming aspen
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There is no new interview yet?

graceful crescent
# west fulcrum Is there any thing I can do to get a upper hand on people who’ll join late to th...

As an individual RPG, you won't have much interaction with other players. In the ranked arena, you may be against a newer player or an OG player, but the Illuvials you use will be "balanced".

The only possible advantage you have is in the Leviathan Arena where there is no balancing. You bring your strongest Illuvials with the most wicked synergies to totally overpower your opponent. Fully evolved and levelled Illuvials are needed here. You can only do that with time, unless you are a whale who can buy fully evolved Illuvials at any time 🙂

acoustic whale
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Illuvium graphics look fire, not gonna lie, this project looks dope

fallen onyx
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Gm

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Hope everyone has a good day 😊

daring basin
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Im waiting to play 24/7 this game Atlas_Love

pale bloom
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GUys am I late to this project? $1,600 for 1 ILV...

wicked furnace
tiny cave
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Just 3 more months for game release

vale wave
cyan sapphire
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Don't Ping a channel if you don't want everyone going there without a reason. Ping in announcements to go to the desired channel for nominations. 🤦

dusty ledge
zenith fable
gleaming aspen
paper prism
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A question about the land sale, if I buy the land it produces resources which I then can sell to people who play the game?

full dome
cyan sapphire
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I got that. I'm giving you advice on how to keep trolls out of channels you don't want them in, thanks

ebon snow
cyan sapphire
# ebon snow Or just show some common decency and respect?

I had a notification in that channel for no reason. I never would have been there. When I got there, there were people arguing. I chimed in against the drunkard that spammed a random channel. I didn't know what the channel was for until you told me. Then I told you how to keep the undesired out. Where did I disrespect your little feelings exactly?

fierce crater
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Why is sILV cheaper than ILV but has the same buying power?

ebon snow
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The channels are for governance. They are labelled. It's being disrespectful to the protocol, not me.

cyan sapphire
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I didn't know that til they told me dippy

full dome
ebon snow
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Not my fault you didn't read the label of the channel

cyan sapphire
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Not my fault I had a notification there either. I didn't read the channel name, I clicked it to see what people were talking about. You guys are thick

ebon snow
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But I don't care to argue with you. You're just going to drag this out and annoy everyone. I know when to walk away from trolls.

drowsy mirage
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hey all

cyan sapphire
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Also, the channel name is Illiviati-cou.... On my mobile phone. I'm supposed to know what that is?

cyan sapphire
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Can't you set a little warning when someone enters a channel? Like maybe a message telling people what the channel is for before they type? Bitching at people for being in a channel they were pinged in is a pretty good way to get them to sell their 23 ILV for one of the other 1000 projects out there.. just saying

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With channel name Illiviati-cou....

full dome
cyan sapphire
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Fuck Illuvium, peace 🖕

ebon snow
foggy arch
zenith fable
sage falcon
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scream and run in circles

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but only because it's a good workout 🤣

timber monolith
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If he hates the project so much he can gift me his ILV😂

ebon snow
slow sigil
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how to be part of close beta ? i own 5 illuv

gleaming aspen
sage falcon
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Hi everyoneIlluvium_Logo

forest snow
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Due to the number of Brazilian players, I kindly ask you to translate the game into Portuguese. thanks. 🏳🇧🇷🇧🇷

red geyser
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Yeah Mozart still warns in that channel. I can’t remember if that had been turned off or not. But it doesn’t mean anything and mods will just go in and delete the warnings eventually.

humble wave
untold fern
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hi

short socket
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how do u get sILV to stake. i have ilv already

knotty anchor
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hi

quaint storm
short socket
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yes slp sorry

quaint storm
# short socket yes slp sorry

There's a video pinned by Rahlord in #🥩〕staking that walks through step by step. But basically you add equal $ value of Eth/ILV to that liquidity pool on SushiSwap and you will get SLP tokens in return.

short socket
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so u have to wait until your slp grows enough to stake on iluvium site

gaunt sky
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When is open beta?

shell rose
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is it possible to stake illuvium without gas fee

quaint storm
humble wave
quaint storm
short socket
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hmm so better to just stake ilv with say 1k investment

quaint storm
short socket
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Was there a staking calculator

quaint storm
abstract sonnet
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!wallet

surreal vector
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hey guys, I can't find a launch date. Is there one set already or are we still a way off?

viscid rune
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damn i wanna win those ygg buffalo 😭

frank magnet
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Is the YGGBot active?

viscid rune
frank magnet
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Ah yeah thanks

dim musk
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What happened ??

weak blade
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Cant wait.

hoary sail
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will it be 07:00 Am or Pm?

dusk sigil
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Hell yeah a giveaway

oak compass
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GM hihi

stone warren
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giveaway time woot

hard pine
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how to find YGGBot? I cant find him

hot stone
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why I can;t see the YGGBoT to DM wallet ?

zenith wren
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hi

dusk sigil
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Is it a free airdrop or what

wicked furnace
worldly relic
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Where yggbot😒

silent crypt
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Member list meaning ppl in discord or is there other criteria?

dusk sigil
hard pine
urban valley
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Check

dusk sigil
iron acorn
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Where i can find YGGbot?

feral geyser
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Hola

dusk sigil
silent crypt
iron acorn
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Okay thankyou sir

quaint storm
dusk sigil
calm osprey
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Can I use my metamask eth address for the water buffalo?

quaint storm
calm osprey
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I see, thanks a lot!

dusk sigil
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I wanna play so bad is there a date for launch yet

dusk sigil
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Is the beta open for free or I need to buy an nft for it

agile pagoda
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Hi Bro

lapis lake
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LETS GOOOO

dusk sigil
next bay
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@YGGBot

sudden pond
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Hola

dire token
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when the game come out

sage falcon
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Hi mates!

quaint storm
solid onyx
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Wow lots of dummy member bots

dusk sigil
quaint storm
buoyant storm
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Where i find this ygg bot

proud bobcat
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I can't see the gield guild bot

quaint storm
dusk sigil
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It won't be out until Dec 9

dusk sigil
proud ivy
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Ok ok im here. My buddy convinced me to give this a shot. I put 10k into staking at 1k(up pretty nice!)and im officially an illuvium lover and want a water buffalo NfT!

quaint storm
proud bobcat
buoyant storm
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How it works with this YGG 🤔

quaint storm
dusk sigil
buoyant storm
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@quaint storm dont find this bot 😅

quaint storm
dusk sigil
tardy obsidian
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Yo yo yo

buoyant storm
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Ah aiaiai

dusk sigil
quaint storm
sage falcon
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hi

buoyant storm
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Sry Guys 😅.

atomic parcel
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How do we validate whether we're already members? Am I a member just beause I've joined the discord?

quasi patio
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What is an element landmark and fuel landmark on level 3 and 4 land? What value do they provide?

dusk sigil
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A silent moment shhhh 🤣

gusty meadow
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Hi

dusk sigil
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Wassup

supple elk
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Fake dummy accounts incoming. Gotta prepare the ban hammer bot! Lol.

dusk sigil
desert mica
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Not seeing the YGGBot

obtuse patrol
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Flood is already starting. It's crazy

remote imp
dusk sigil
desert mica
obtuse patrol
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How did you all end up here, for the giveaway...and not even read the announcement on the discord you're joining for the giveaway ?

dusk sigil
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Go to announcement and read what's there u will find everything there

desert mica
supple elk
charred arch
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🚀

frigid bramble
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Where can I see ygg bot?

supple elk
dusk sigil
frigid bramble
quaint storm
dusk sigil
sacred quiver
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lets go

unkempt saddle
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jesus that airdrop, but 95 out of 220k discord members oof

frigid bramble
magic cobalt
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So the bot will be available after 9 dec ?

dusk sigil
magic cobalt
sacred quiver
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i just registered months ago

quaint storm
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Join before the 9th, register with the bot after that

dusk sigil
desert mica
languid fable
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The YGG bot is not available yet correct?

sacred quiver
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oh you mean this channel?

dusk sigil
unkempt saddle
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i think anyone on this discord is eligible, bot will not be available until the 9th

full cosmos
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Hihi

minor cove
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Gm but gn here

dusky fog
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Hi fam

fervent marten
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came for this......special YGG Water Buffalo NFTs and 1 especially lucky winner will win a holographic version!

subtle spade
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hi

marble geyser
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Morning everyone

sterile harness
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Hey guys

marble geyser
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What is your favorite exchange to buy ill

serene shell
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How we all doing

serene shell
marble geyser
harsh mountain
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wheres the ygg bot

marble geyser
fervent marten
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so i cant send my eth address to the YGGbot until after December 9?

harsh mountain
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ahhhh

quaint storm
warm basalt
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Wow amazig seeing a YGG and illuvium collab

fervent marten
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okay cool just making sure i read it right.

marble geyser
tight harbor
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Ehhhhh, new here. Been following the project for awhile but had no idea there was a discord 😔 fail. Glad to be here though!

hard wedge
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Is there a YGG discord ?

wicked nova
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I have a specific question please about receiving sILV as rewards to use for land. If I have more SLP I want to stake, could I wait to stake that SLP so that when I stake it I will have to receive my rewards at that time, then I could avoid two transactions of gas fees?

dusk sigil
marble geyser
stable quiver
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i will buy so many land 👀

dusk sigil
wicked nova
stable quiver
dusk sigil
marble geyser
stable quiver
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and its value can be so huge in the future for such a high graphic game

fresh wadi
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hello

sage falcon
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Hello

dusk sigil
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Is the land for sale yet

wicked nova
# dusk sigil Fuel for what

to do certain actions in the game. Its been estimated the ROI on land from resource generation would be less than the current APY from staking

stable quiver
marble geyser
sage falcon
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how do i get nft for free?

stable quiver
maiden bone
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Hey guys! New here. Just gave liquidity and locked in for 1 Year ETH-ILV staking for 2X!
When is the land release? And will locked staking people get a advantage or WL?

marble geyser
stable quiver
grim aspen
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late to join here
and so much need to read hahaha

wicked furnace
stray jasper
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@plush marlingbot

stable quiver
thin oak
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trying to find a good youtube guide on what's currently known about illuvium zero. any tips on favorite illuvial youtuber with similar video?

dusk sigil
wooden whale
raw coral
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Can i enter my metamask wallet for ETH?

dusk sigil
sturdy stirrup
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0x728EF931C83d38113F6a7782f0f9d57333886783

raw coral
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I mean for this ILlV?

dusk sigil
supple elk
# thin oak trying to find a good youtube guide on what's currently known about illuvium zer...

What is Illuvium Zero about? What is land and why should I consider to buy some? That and more to be found in this video.

----- Contents of the video -----
00:00 - Intro
00:43 - Game Vision
01:38 - Pre Alpha Gameplay
03:39 - Basic Information
04:52 - Blueprints
07:04 - Land Details
07:54 - Elements
08:23 - Fuels
09:21 - Converters
09:31 - Landm...

▶ Play video
fossil thistle
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Ok, i cant find the server bot.. im on phone, can somwone direct me? 💩

fossil thistle
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Ohh, tha ks 😅

wicked nova
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Will the lands be plotted onto a grid like you see in most other metaverse blockchain games? If so, is there any way to determine how we could get land near each other before minting?

limber parrot
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This project is my personal favorite - great team, great community, great investors

primal flint
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👍

sage falcon
whole igloo
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can anyone see the yggbot?

tall zealot
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2am EST live draw 👀

fossil thistle
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D fk was that sex reaction 🤣🤣🤣💩

mossy island
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!wallet

sage falcon
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What wallet can u recommend for eth wallet, guys?

fossil thistle
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Cant buy lands yet, right?

whole igloo
jade knoll
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"All current members and new joins to our server by 7:00 AM Dec 9 UTC are eligible! Easiest eligibility criteria in the world"

What does this mean?

whole igloo
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Can anyone see the YGG Bot???

quaint storm
bronze raptor
sage falcon
jade knoll
quaint storm
whole igloo
sturdy nova
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Hello

whole igloo
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Tbh metamask is really nice and is compatible with just about anything

gray pasture
wraith shale
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Hello what is your price prediction for ilv

sage falcon
inland thicket
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LIV is $1600 per

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When can we play?

quaint storm
clever fjord
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pretty cool news the YGG one

inland thicket
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Okay, thank you :)

whole igloo
fading yoke
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What server do we need to join to be eligible?

quaint storm
small seal
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yeah

marble geyser
marble geyser
cyan cape
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what platform will the game be on?

high sapphire
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i dont see ygg bot lol

humble wave
high sapphire
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so on dec9 right?

humble wave
paper nimbus
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hiii

high sapphire
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i see ty

inner smelt
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Hi

dusty plank
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!welcome Welcome everybody! And good morning 🙂

tidal garnetBOT
sage marsh
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where I can see YGGbot?

worldly holly
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Hey y'all frens 👋🏻

dusty plank
sage marsh
abstract jungle
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insta

mellow lily
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hey fam, anyone know when the giveaway bot be up?

cobalt grotto
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Hello Mods please help, How to join the Guild NFT Airdrop from the announcement just recently? I can't find the yggbot, how do i find it?

deft gyro
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hello

glacial reef
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hello friends

bright slate
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whens the release date?

atomic forge
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Where is yggbot

atomic forge
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I can't find the bot

gusty roost
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Did everyone see IMX just partnered with Moonpay to make a fiat on ramp to IMX to buy ETH? No need for gas fees now getting ETH onto IMX to use in illuvium

atomic forge
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Haha

quaint storm
gusty roost
scenic flicker
#

Hey guys I want to buy a skin for ship.
Can some1 guide me

orchid furnace
quaint storm
scenic flicker
pulsar mauve
#

Where’s the yggbot?

mellow lily
lethal bridge
#

For the water buffalo do we need to register our wallet address somewhere? @little flax

quaint storm
full dome
quaint storm
sage falcon
#

ships showing too much skin lately, this is a family sea come on!

turbid lynx
#

ygg bot is active?

sage falcon
#

no, bot wills how up later

lethal bridge
quaint storm
obtuse patrol
# turbid lynx yes but there is not for now

"At the end of the qualification period for new joins, a snapshot will immediately be taken of the server membership. Next, the “YGGBot” will come online for 1 week. "

Read the entire announcement.

sage falcon
#

I wonder when we all have digital assistants talking directly into our brains will we still ask these things

dusty plank
cold hornet
#

hey, do we have any idea on when the beta is starting?

tall ore
#

Hello

ancient swallow
#

where is yg bot?

ancient swallow
#

tx

native sentinel
#

Hey guys. What do the dawnlight badges do? And the different teirs?

ancient swallow
#

but not htere

tidal garnetBOT
#

The current estimates are:

  • Closed beta Before End of 2021
  • Gameplay trailer end of October
  • Illuvatar auction before open beta
  • Open beta (launch) on PC & MAC in Q1 2022
  • Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

dusty plank
native sentinel
#

I see ty

ancient swallow
#

guess till 2 come

#

ygg bot still 2 come

quaint storm
ancient swallow
#

and then 7 days to connect with wallet

paper bone
#

hi

boreal fox
#

Hi

ancient swallow
#

tx saber

paper bone
#

I wish you all a fortune

regal jetty
#

When event start?

abstract kestrel
abstract kestrel
drifting willow
#

anyone here good with google docs

abstract kestrel
#

fr

bold osprey
#

hi

south aspen
#

Hi, could somebody explain to me. Will illuvium use something like axie use ronin for cheap transactions?

tidal garnetBOT
#

Illuvium uses Immutable X as a layer 2 solution. This means that you won’t be charged network gas fees within Illuvium and instead only need to transfer funds between the Ethereum Mainnet and Immutable X. This keeps the player's cost of doing business low, maximizing potential gain. For more information about Immutable X check out https://www.immutable.com/

rustic ocean
#

where's the yggbot?

quaint storm
#

Every. Time.

south aspen
quaint storm
queen torrent
#

Hey everyone 👋🏾

south aspen
quaint storm
queen torrent
dusty plank
ionic geode
#

Is the ETH wallet address is from metamask?

humble wave
ionic geode
#

Thank you

twilit quartz
#

i might sound like an idiot but where is the YGG botto enter giveaway? xD

twilit quartz
#

lmao

#

thank you didnt read it properly xD

pine grove
#

I didn't find the ygg bot

reef nexus
#

the YGG bot goes live 12/9? (did i read that correctly?)

tender kraken
#

Wow how many times per minute do people have to post the same link lol.

cedar nymph
#

!wallet

humble wave
analog forum
#

Hello guys

reef nexus
#

the problem is, it doesnt specify what the 'qualification period' is.

analog forum
#

Nice projeck ❤️❤️❤️❤️

quaint storm
tough oxide
#

hey when does the plot auction start?

quaint storm
tough oxide
#

demand for sILV will be crazy then 🙂 thx !

reef nexus
quaint storm
reef nexus
dusty plank
austere musk
scenic sail
#

niiice a good giveaway! i have a chance!

graceful surge
#

Can someone clear a ban on a user ? She's never been in the server but is banned. I'm trying to invite her.

dusty plank
#

Sometimes people get caught for weird names or just by joining at the same time as a bunch of bots.

graceful surge
#

Sent

reef nexus
dusty plank
marble geyser
quaint storm
abstract kestrel
#

⁉️

marble geyser
rich inlet
#

uuhh

calm lagoon
#

Thoughts on token hitting 12 any time soon?

marble geyser
quaint storm
marble geyser
calm lagoon
#

Sorry I’m in the wrong discord server, lmao

quaint storm
marble geyser
blissful girder
#

hi

bitter zealot
#

YGG signup is next week, right?

marble geyser
quaint storm
marble geyser
#

Than the yggbot will be available for you to send your eth address to

bitter zealot
fringe berry
#

Do you guys need team members? I'm looking for a job in crypto space

opal geyser
#

May i ask how can i buy ILV?

twilit geyser
cedar nymph
fervent hedge
#

Hi, where is the YGGbot?

cedar nymph
fervent hedge
#

Thnks

cedar nymph
#

I want to stake but I simply can't take ilv from binance

sage falcon
shrewd mango
#

can anyone explain me the announcement?
"To kick off our new Guild NFT Airdrop Series, we are teaming up with Yield Guild Games for an exclusive giveaway!

We will be giving away 95 of these special YGG Water Buffalo NFTs and 1 especially lucky winner will win a holographic version!

All current members and new joins to our server by 7:00 AM Dec 9 UTC are eligible! Easiest eligibility criteria in the world. "

where and what do i have to do?

quaint storm
cedar nymph
shy oar
#

anyone speak spanish?

modest pelican
sage falcon
gentle cobalt
#

Hey guys I’m really new here

#

Just a question, is the game already released ? Or how does this all work out ?

turbid lynx
#

I did not understand when YYGBbot will be available?

dense tendon
#

Hey guys! December 9th right?

sharp heron
coral dirge
civic pine
#

Good morning everyone hope everyone has a great day

coral dirge
atomic briar
#

....sooooo much work being done......

broken escarp
#

hi guys? i want to invest in this game, what token or thing i should look for?

late rock
#

Is that bot do we just message member list ?

atomic briar
#

222,000 members - wow haven't we grown

vernal snow
#

when do land sales start?

broken escarp
vernal snow
atomic briar
#

ATM Yes - get your ILV and stake it here https://illuvium.io/

Welcome to the world of Illuvium. A shattered land of beauty and wonder. Travel the vast and varied landscape hunting dangerous beasts, then capture them to battle in the Arenas or trade via the Exchange.

broken escarp
#

what pool is the best for long term staking?

mystic bloom
#

guys do we know when the v2 staking is coming out, and does anyone have an idea about how much lower the gas fees will be for that?

#

i know right know assuming you already have ILV, you would need to pay gas fees twice when trying to stake it correct, and then each time when you collect as well (so around $150-$200x3 at a min), any idea how much that would be after v2 staking? just trying to know if my small investment is worth staking or not

abstract swan
#

So where is that ygg bot...

quaint storm
slow spade
#

where can i find YGGbot for giveaway? its not there

abstract swan
abstract swan
final inlet
#

Hi

gusty trout
coral flume
#

!wallet

marble geyser
ripe hemlock
#

Hey guys, for the Land sale

is it true that sILV has the same value for the landsale as ILV?

sage falcon
#

hey

ripe hemlock
# wispy ginkgo That’s correct

Guys my english is not the best, can someone explain this sentence to me in more easier way?

ETH and sILV can be used as payment methods for land, but not in one transaction. While sILV will not attract external revenue, it will incentivize
current token holders to claim their yield tokens as sILV. This phenomenon will massively reduce the total supply of ILV long term.

If i understand it correctly, if i want to buy a Tier 1 Land it costs..

0.5 ETH
OR
0.5 sILV

right?

brazen plover
#

Any news on the land purchases?

fierce vine
#

Also we have language channels if you want someone to try to explain it in whichever language you speak, there on the left side of this server towards the bottom or if you tell me what language you speak I'll link you

heady forge
#

Glad to be here. 😀

brazen plover
ripe hemlock
brazen plover
quaint storm
brazen plover
quaint storm
sage falcon
#

everyone go watch volkins new video

foggy junco
#

it is cool to be here 🙂

quaint storm
sage falcon
fierce vine
fierce vine
brazen plover
final inlet
#

Hi

fierce vine
#

Oh someone answered. At the gym so didn’t read lol.

fierce vine
final inlet
#

What's up guys

brazen plover
fierce vine
#

That’s why some people are saving their rewards for the land sale

atomic glacier
#

whats the name of the bot that we send our address too for the airdrops next week?

fierce vine
atomic glacier
dull chasm
fierce vine
atomic glacier
fierce vine
#

Np lol

tranquil frigate
#

Hi Im new to this. Just want to ask if metamask can be use as an ethereum wallet? This with regard to the giveaway. Thank you

tranquil frigate
quartz warren
#

The YGGBot for the giveaway is still not up yet right?

quaint storm
quartz warren
#

ok

sage falcon
#

/set me

hollow marsh
#

hi guys is a mint day gonne or i can't finde ? can somebody help me ?

gilded path
#

is it wrong that i want to see how many aspects of the game i can break and glitch? lol

quaint storm
rose patrol
hollow marsh
#

How i can earn a game is a free to play or i need mint ? @quaint storm Btw ty bro

gilded path
rose patrol
#

Can we get a whale to buy ILV every 5 minutes all weekend please? Thanks!

fierce vine
sage falcon
#

What benefits does purchasing land give?

quaint storm
gilded path
sage falcon
#

Ahh i see, thanks

rose patrol
rose patrol
cunning pasture
#

f

dim wraith
#

hey, you guys think the land prices will be higher in the second land sale or may they be the same?

scenic nimbus
dim wraith
#

Hmm yeah maybe

sage falcon
#

Will we be buying the land with sILV?

quaint storm
sage falcon
#

Okay thanks

icy moss
#

How to buy silv?

quaint storm
sage falcon
quaint storm
grave elk
#

!join

#

How do I connect my wallet?

dull chasm
ruby tartan
#

Gm gm

grave elk
#

!wallet

rose patrol
rose patrol
dull chasm
austere musk
#

How many discord members do we have?

dull chasm
austere musk
#

Oh ok, thought the number was stuck and not moving for days

dull chasm
#

Yeah it happen sometimes

stable light
#

Hi

dull chasm
stable light
#

🙂

dark yoke
#

Man I want that bull NFT more than any other NFT I’ve seen. Hope I win one! Illuvium_Logo Fire5_Orange

clever fjord
carmine hemlock
#

👋

cursive lily
#

!rank

quaint storm
cursive lily
#

sorry xD

spiral path
#

Hi, im new here. Whats the compatible wallet usable here? Metamask will do?

coral estuary
#

One question? who is the largest holder of Illuvium? and what %

clever fjord
spiral path
clever fjord
# coral estuary One question? who is the largest holder of Illuvium? and what %
spiral path
dull chasm
dense zodiac
#

good evening

ember badge
#

hello! new to the discord, this is hype

coral estuary
#

What's your thoughts about having some kind of season pass in Illuvium or biome pass (each biome has different pass with quests for only that specific biome)

green carbon
coral estuary
#

Skins/sILV/illuvatars etc.. some of ideas for rewards

#

idk something on my mind recently

abstract kestrel
coral estuary
#

But can be done only in that specific biome and you can't get same skins in different biome passes, idk that just crossed my mind and thought that could maybe work

abstract kestrel
#

I don't think silv would work but maybe skins

coral estuary
#

Why not? same way you would earn sILV in tournament for example, that way you earn sILV finishing some quests

#

Genuinely asking cuz maybe they couldn't

abstract kestrel
coral estuary
#

But 1st you have to buy that same pass in eth/ilv

abstract kestrel
#

If it was skins that you could resell later then it would be sick

coral estuary
abstract kestrel
cinder ruin
#

Any info on the formal beta tester request form ?

coral estuary
final inlet
#

hi

coral estuary
#

idk idea not branched yet just something i said out loud but i think it could work after great minds in dev team make it.

stiff horizon
#

Hi guys

unborn sky
#

Where should we type in our eth wallet? Is the bot available now and metamask eth wallet is okay to use? Thank you for the answer

sage falcon
#

not yet soon enough it will b

dull chasm
dull chasm
daring basin
#

I just want to play the game 😋

daring basin
#

emoji_26 it's time to play the game Atlas_Wow I got some ILVs to play Atlas_Pepe2 Illuvium_Logo Illuvium_Logo Illuvium_Logo Illuvium_Logo Illuvium_Logo Illuvium_Logo Illuvium_Logo Illuvium_Logo

#

Where is the airdrop bot? I just have 0.55 cents of Illuvium_Logo here 🤣

sage falcon
proper geyser
#

Is this game out yet?

dull chasm
dull chasm
tidal garnetBOT
#

The current estimates are:

  • Closed beta Before End of 2021
  • Gameplay trailer end of October
  • Illuvatar auction before open beta
  • Open beta (launch) on PC & MAC in Q1 2022
  • Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

modest dawn
#

!beta

tidal garnetBOT
#

🚫 Zhyphix, you can't use that.

modest dawn
#

core contributors? what's that?

dull chasm
dull chasm
modest dawn
#

alright thanks

wet oak
#

hei

dull chasm
alpine quartz
#

heyyy

sly island
#

test

alpine quartz
#

are there any nfts available to buy yet???

coral estuary
#

only skins and emotes on opensea

alpine quartz
coral estuary
#

or are you asking in the future?

stuck igloo
#

What command in bot for giveaway posted?

alpine quartz
coral estuary
#

or eth yes

alpine quartz
#

Cool, I'm asking because I really want to whale in here, it seems very promising.

Can I ask what the utility is for the coin then/ what gives the coin value

coral estuary
#

sILV is "in game currency" and ILV is governance token

tidal garnetBOT
#
hak#5208 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

alpine quartz
#

Staking is done on your own platform??

Is there further details on the staking I can read somewhere, I.E lockup period and apy

coral estuary
alpine quartz
#

Also, I read that this game pays rewards in eth, am I right to say that or does it pay rewards in sILV??

coral estuary
#

ILV/sILV

dull chasm
dull chasm
tidal garnetBOT
#

ILV is not needed for gameplay in any way. Instead it has three main functions:

Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals as well as electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.

Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV (or sILV). Additional ILV will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.

Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available from sales and once the game and Illuvidex are launched.

For further details please read:
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

dull chasm
alpine quartz
#

Okay, I see you've dipped 6 percent today and that's why I'm interested in buying today

dull chasm
tidal garnetBOT
#

When holding ILV, staking is a way to gain additional rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution. The process for staking is the following:

  • You acquire either some ILV or some Sushi LP tokens
  • You go to: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
  • You enter the right pool according to the tokens you acquired
  • You decide whether to lock your deposit or not (if locked, you will receive more rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution, but you cannot withdraw your deposit until the chosen locking period is over)
  • After approving the contract (if this is your first interaction with it) you confirm the staking of the desired tokens

You can find an in-depth video for staking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4&t=1s

alpine quartz
#

Thankyou, so much research to do here, LOADSSS of info to read haha. I feel like I've only just scratched the surface

alpine quartz
#

Will closed beta be offered to whales or???

coral estuary
#

People will be chosen from the forums if im not mistaking, forums not up atm

dull chasm
alpine quartz
#

Okay coool, so I still have a chance haha

clever fjord
clever fjord
#

it is super beautiful, we see the 7 regions and all

alpine quartz
alpine quartz
#

I'll buy 10k now just so I can get imvolved, I'll start doing my research tomorrow. Now imma just drink and enjoy the money I've just made hahahaha

hallow drift
alpine quartz
#

May be 10k ilv after my research, trailer looks banging

#

Is ILV available on uniswap?? Lol I'm drinnnkkin

gleaming aspen
#

It is available in sushiswap

alpine quartz
gleaming aspen
#

If you buy alot, its should be cheaper to use sushiswap

alpine quartz
dull chasm
dull chasm
left hollow
#

I have 1.51 ILV that i haven’t claimed yet how much shoudl I let it build up? I only am staking like 800$

sage falcon
#

do you guys know when will be release a beta version of the game for windows?

dull chasm
dull chasm
tidal garnetBOT
#

The current estimates are:

  • Closed beta Before End of 2021
  • Gameplay trailer end of October
  • Illuvatar auction before open beta
  • Open beta (launch) on PC & MAC in Q1 2022
  • Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

left hollow
#

Yeah I don’t even got enough eth to pay gas LOL

velvet anchor
#

I am so crazy excited for this game!
I have 2 ILV and I'm buying more every month. Can't wait for the game!!

left hollow
#

So I gotta wait a year to sell what I’ve claimed so is it better to go the SILV route and use that money to get money from the play to earn aspect

mossy grove
sleek delta
#

Open beta q1 2022 would be amazing

sage falcon
left hollow
#

I assume starting the game with the requiem to of 2k USD in in game currency would be a good way to generate some cash haha

velvet anchor
mossy grove
# left hollow I assume starting the game with the requiem to of 2k USD in in game currency wou...

great way to generate some cash in my opinion

illuvials will be easiest and most available to catch when the game releases (as more are cought they get rarer and harder to catch)

spending sILV on catching illuvials and then holding on to those illuvials (at least some of them) for the future is a great idea (as in future they will be super rare as they will be the original first editions)

not financial advice

elfin marsh
#

This project is crazy! 🔥 🔥 🔥

left hollow
#

Nice!

#

I don’t got any spare time ever so my concern is I won’t have time to play the game the amount that’s needed but who knows project has been cool I’m up 200% in terms of Staking gains not bad

sage falcon
#

Here's my situation. I want to swap or cash out a coin to buy 200+ ilv. What exchange would be easiest to use and would any limits on the exchange prevent me from moving my ilv. I'm asking because my broker doesn't support ilv pairing.

mossy anchor
#

hi

livid marten
#

for that many ilv sushswap is probably fine

marble eagle
#

hi

sage falcon
#

Ok thanks. If you know any brokers that has ilv pairing that would be cool too.

lavish finch
dull chasm
dull chasm
sage falcon
#

With that much ilv how long will it take sushswap to finish the transaction? In the past I lost 12k from so processing times and price fluctuation.

#

*slow

mossy grove
wild zinc
#

if buying 50 ilv worth, i recommend setting slippage to 0.01% and your gas to 2x of high

#

that way you can avoid being sandwitched by MEV bots

wild zinc
#

👍

sage falcon
#

Great thanks

wild zinc
barren tide
#

any news on a upcoming trailer?

dreamy rapids
#

Quick question, it's Uniswap that has the sILV-Eth pair yeah?

abstract kestrel
cosmic oracle
#

💎 🖐️

drifting meteor
#

👍

quaint storm
barren tide
#

oh, ok, thanks

quaint storm
# barren tide oh, ok, thanks

Witness the power clash of the Illuvials as they fight for dominance in a vast world of breathtaking biomes. Autobattle encounters, the mining of shards, and harvesting resources are revealed in this showcase of Illuvium’s in-game overworld and battle boards.

🚀🌕 Pre-register now: https://cutt.ly/illuviumprereggrt & join our community: https://c...

▶ Play video
barren tide
#

yes

somber badge
#

Anyone here computer savvy? Looking for someone to help me understand virtual machine and computer emulators.

dense stump
elfin obsidian
#

Gm

signal bear
#

Just gonna say this here once: if I ran for counsel, I’d be supporting NOT raising the land sale prices. Land ownership is one of the greatest rights IRL that the common person can have, how much moreso in a metaverse? To just cater to whales (and trust me I can afford it, that’s not the point), will not keep morale and enthusiasm that would sustain if the avg user felt there’s a CHANCE of owning. Raising prices under the facade of “it’ll help control bits and whales” is a circular argument, there’s to top, there’s no limit to how high that would be effective. I trust the process, AND trust the teams months of work and consideration into the proposed prices.
Just my 2 cents, not gonna argue it.

serene imp
fierce vine
#

I’d hope the council would vote what the community wants over what they’d personally want.

gleaming aspen
sage falcon
#

When is this nft coming out guys?

fierce vine
gleaming aspen
#

For the game, it is Q1 2022

signal bear
#

Just plan for April/ May and you won’t be disappointed 💁🏼‍♀️

fierce vine
fresh flint
#

👍

signal bear
fierce vine
#

I think t4 is only one priced well for a Dutch the others are pretty low

vale wave
fierce vine
gleaming aspen
vale wave
#

before it sells out kekw

gleaming aspen
#

It is not actually cheap if people buy with ETH, it is cheap because of the cheap sILV price in secondary market.

feral grail
#

GM

fierce vine
#

I can’t talk too much on investing strategies but I’ll say I think the land should start much much higher and allow the Dutch auction process to work as intended

exotic hatch
#

hi

fierce vine
#

Win win for token holders. We get revenue distribution if whales buy. If the price reaches a reasonable price people are willing to spend then they get land.

fierce vine
inner turtle
#

!wallet

gleaming aspen
#

Fair

nocturne haven
#

I'd be happy with T1-T3 starting price doubling. Maybe a little less than double for T3

viscid sage
#

sILV purchases do nothing for revdis yah?

signal bear
livid marten
#

How would anyone but devs know whats fair pricing? Theres plenty of info i think unreleased “could need to just do more research” that would give a fairer idea of just how valuable each land tier is. Wont try to say specifics since I’ll dig a hole but there are probably plenty of unknown intricacies at this point.

fierce vine
nocturne haven
fierce vine
#

Plus it’s a Dutch auction so it’ll lower over time

signal bear
fierce vine
#

Slp does benefit from revdis lol

zenith fable
#

Tier 1 is still very realistic for an average user if it even doubles in price from here

nocturne haven
signal bear
wicked furnace
# fierce vine Slp does benefit from revdis lol

I think @signal bear point is that instead of claiming sILV for land use, she could have claimed ILV for revdis purposes. I see where she is coming from, but I think price increases are necessary

viscid sage
fierce vine
#

Yeah that’s a personal decision but doesn’t mean that benefits the most amount of users lol

fierce vine
signal bear
nocturne haven
#

I mean I bought sILV pretty early because I thought the land sale might be in November. I also locked stakes based on this. But that was my personal decision. That shouldn't have any impact on what the DAO does.

fierce vine
#

And sILV purchases prevent ilv from being minted which is also good for holders

zenith fable
signal bear
viscid sage
livid marten
#

If starting prices had been 5 eth for tier 1 to begin with no one would say anything but since a projection was released and now is being considered for change its just for the whales i guess to some.

zenith fable
#

Lol i wasnt exactly supporting your stance 😅

Was just saying nothing is finalised, so when we choose to make decisions, we need to keep in mind things can change. Especially something like land sale prices

nocturne haven
fierce vine
#

Pretty much

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And my main point was a council member knowing how they’ll vote before getting feedback from the community lol

gleaming aspen
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Staking > Land

signal bear
livid marten
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The small timers are more likely to get screwed if they feel they have a chance anyways because thats more people fighting for the land in the auction and failed transactions adding up

viscid sage
livid marten
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Better to wait for secondary market if your bank isnt loaded and hope for a correction

fierce vine
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I mean didn’t Kieran sell that land for 30x or something lol

alpine quartz
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Wait, what are the current proposed land prices?

fierce vine
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Right but I’m considering fair value of land not value so people can flip and increase their own bags lol

livid marten
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.5 t1 up to 20eth for t4 and silent auction for t5

tame field
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Where can i buy sILV?

fierce vine
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Saying we want cheap land so we can flip is admitting the price is too cheap

signal bear
alpine quartz
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Is everyone LP staking for the 459% or single staking for the 37???

livid marten
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Is it fairer for a few people to get cheap land and flip it quickly for a few x and horde the profit to themselves or for it to be distributed to stakers in the main auction with higher starting prices?

zenith storm
alpine quartz
signal bear
zenith storm
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except those who are solo single staking

signal bear
alpine quartz
# zenith storm we are all doing both

I seee, okayyyy, 459% seems like a no brainer but I've been stung by impermanent loss before, i guess the percentage difference makes it not matter though

signal bear
weary chasm
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maybe be a silly question but what are dawnlight badges used for in game?

viscid sage
livid marten
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@signal bear if the main auction brings in more money from higher prices, that all goes to buying ILV raising the price of your IlV tokens. If that excess money goes to secondary market there is no guarantee it feeds back into the IlV token. ILV going up also makes your sIlV more valuable when the real game comes too

alpine quartz
viscid sage
signal bear
alpine quartz
viscid sage
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!revdis

tidal garnetBOT
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The tokenomics of this DAO include a 100% revenue distribution (could be subject to change - DAO governance). This means that any kind of revenue generated through sales or in-game revenue is distributed back to holders of staked ILV. The same max supply of 10 Million ILV will be used for this purpose regardless of how many games the DAO develops.

Revenue distribution is paid out in the form of unlocked ILV and the payout is done multiple times a week without a fixed schedule. Before paying out revenue distribution, the vault converts ETH spent in-game into ILV by buying it off the market which puts buying pressure on the ILV token and thus supports its price development.

quaint storm
# signal bear Now come on no one’s saying that. Everyone loves coupons and bargains and flexin...

Raising prices does not punish smaller investors though. If everyone wants to buy at the starting price you get gas wars - which hit the smallest holders hardest when they pay gas for nothing. Raising them either means they sell higher (maxing revenue and keeping small holders from wasting gas fees), or they drop down to where small investors can snatch one up without being frontrun by a bot and getting nothing.

fringe shore
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Hi

nocturne haven
signal bear
nocturne haven
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low price is good for ETH miners' fees. I really dont think gas wars are good for anyone, certainly not ILV token holders, and probably not even people with small bags of sILV hoping to grab their piece of the pie.

livid marten
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So in general i think we can agree that while small holders may not be able to get land as seemingly easily as desired if prices rise, there should be enough merit to higher starting prices to accept it if thats what happens. Both have merits, though i personally favor the larger rev dis and minimized gas wars.