💬〕general

[vital lynx]

We may as well skip $182~ and head straight for $200 as the next milestone

[flat ore]

Also all the new purchase, are just tossing it into the ILV ... and not in the LP pool.

[vital lynx]

The $144 milestone was broken in one day

[earnest drift]

whatever it may be. i aint selling

need it for the game

[humble wave]

Ofc you're not. The sweetest part has yet to come after the release of the mini-game 😁 let alone the game itself

[twilit junco]

$16m 24h trading volume. Still going up further.

[next surge]

Fuck me

Blitzing past 150

Like its nothing

Lets go 200

[red crater]

16mil that's insane 😄

[twilit junco]

Only gonna go up over time 😄

[vital lynx]

I blinked 👀

[full dome]

https://gfycat.com/scratchyelatedivorybackedwoodswallow

[twilit junco]

WTF. $AXS has $7b trading volume the last 24h according to CoinGecko? That can't be true.

[ivory dome]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zQPyDc88X8o&feature=share

[hearty veldt]

it just doesn't seem sustainable, at least, I don't understand how it could stay sustainable

[ivory dome]

Idk if pumping is from this channel. I haven’t watched it though

[hearty veldt]

feels more like major pyramid-scheme

[full dome]

lol. wHoA iTs So CrAzY ! ! ! !

look at these flash player graphics

MY MIND

[vital lynx]

wtf are you talking about?

[hearty veldt]

axs price

it just seems contingent on more and more players continuing to buy into the hype

[full dome]

lol fossilize was about to fite

[vital lynx]

Pretty sure it was a short squeeze

[hearty veldt]

can you even short axs?

[full dome]

i think so

[light socket]

It is true

[vital lynx]

You give me $30 ILV I might 😏 I could always have more

[red crater]

that's insane

7 billion

[earnest drift]

WTF

[red crater]

ya you can

[full dome]

https://gfycat.com/frailtastyacouchi

[twilit junco]

That's ridiculous, seriously. If that is possible for Axie and we also see them at $2.5b market cap right now, then blockchain games could blow past even my super craziest bullish dreams. People might get super rich with 100 $ILV alone if we see equal numbers for ILV and those somehow translate into equally high revenue numbers

[olive arch]

Hi!
Will there be a play-to-earn model or only nft?

[full dome]

yup. that's why seeing axie so high just makes me happy

if that game can do that...bruh

[vital lynx]

Do envision $10,000 ILV now?
🧙‍♂️ 👉

[twilit junco]

Axie made $45m in revenue the last 7 days and this despite their server issues. That's $200m per month and $2.4b per year in revenue (if confirmed over that time ofc) which would already exceed the 2020 revenue of League of Legends. And this is Axie in it's current state and without mainstream adoption of crypto games yet.

[vital lynx]

This is rev dis, replace the word axie in every sentence with ILV stakeholders

[red crater]

THE FLIPPENING

gaming --> blockchain gaming

[vital lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/bitcoin-ethereum-the-flippening-invest-investment-gif-21344972

[full dome]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[vital lynx]

we may need an ILV version of this...

[twilit junco]

Man, with every new high from Axie (and similar pumps like cryptoblades and whatnot) it get's harder and harder to remain patient for ILV

[humble wave]

Guess Rah’s prediction of $10 per token per week will come true lol

[vital lynx]

He's counting the avg of the ups and the downs lmao

[humble wave]

I meant for RevDis

[vital lynx]

oh lmao

$10 per token is frickin good

[humble wave]

He's said per week lol 😁

[vital lynx]

That's more than I make in a month

Normie salaries are trash

[white lotus]

omg

its every time

[humble wave]

That's more than I make in a year lol

[twilit junco]

Axies current 7d revenue extrapolated to a full month and taken as baseline for a RevDis estimation for ILV would equal $40+ per month per token, yeah.

[white lotus]

looks away for 7 seconds

[humble wave]

Ok I'm gonna jump out the window now

[white lotus]

morning gents and lasses

[twilit junco]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-private-from-penguins-of-madagascar-hi-wave-hey-there-gif-16043627

[humble wave]

Morning brother.

[twilit junco]

I don't think ILV will produce numbers like Axie does right now right from the get go in month 1. Although that still is a possibility of course. But just seeing what crypto games are capable of achieving in their current state and the current almost non-existent adoption of crypto games yet....damn, hard not to get carried away dreaming.

[vital lynx]

very true, axie's been out for 3 years now. So realistically would take time to gain traction, but there's also more people in the space now, so who knows

[white lotus]

If ILV produces axie like numbers in 12 months, we'll be doing great

[humble wave]

I'm still ok with 1/4 of that revenue per token per month. Or even half that

[white lotus]

you can look at current MC

you can also extrapolate

find the point where ILV passes AXS

[vital lynx]

stop fudding

[white lotus]

and realize the MCs of both will be drastically higher at that point

[ivory dome]

Hey Stormi How does one earn Rev dis? I have some in ETH ILV pool

[vital lynx]

we are going to make more than what you make in a year and that's final @humble wave

[white lotus]

basically

🚀

[humble wave]

I'll die a happy man. 😉

[twilit junco]

Every $ILV staked in either pool is eligable for RevDis according to it's weight.

[vital lynx]

Let's not die just yet 😉

[humble wave]

I meant in 60 years 😜

[light socket]

$1000+ start of the year is inevitable. It is just a matter of time. Bullish as hell for ILV

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/autobattler-rpg-blockchain-gaming-crypto-gaming-cryptocurrency-gif-22429310

[humble wave]

Ok all this talk of bullishness made me hungry. Gonna order lunch lol

[white lotus]

gonna need some thick to pancakes to soak up all that illuvium

[red crater]

need to figure out when luggis sleeps

so I can overbid him

else it's a lost cause

we've been going back & forward on the clix nft 6 times 😄

[sage falcon]

True , it is a matter of time. I think this year 1k+ in q4 . With binance for sure we can hit a lot more

[humble wave]

Wow I wonder what he would do for a Satoshi 😁

[vital lynx]

order a steak

https://tenor.com/view/oasislabs-oasisnetwork-gif-18579109

[humble wave]

I just did actually 😁

[vital lynx]

you mean Kieran? 😏

[twilit junco]

Just for lolz....before seed/team tokens unlock, if $ILV would reach $AXS market cap right now, that would mean almost $4.000 per $ILV 😄

[real tiger]

make it happen

[light socket]

I was able to discover Illuvium because of Axie Infinity so that just means that more people are investing in NFT games. Axie is revolutionary in a sense since it is the first play to earn. So people are looking for the next Axie Infinity and I think Illuvium might surpass Axie long term

[next surge]

Thats crazy LOL

[humble wave]

Make it happen yeah. Besides, all those ppl would start staking for RevDis. I don't think the price would go down qt all 😁

[next surge]

Lets get 2bn mc

[vital lynx]

the long term aspect is absolutely correct, esp given that the two founders are Kain Warwick's brothers

Very powerful strategic connections + track record of getting things done

The Warwick bros are to be feared

🧙‍♂️

[light socket]

Based on the whitepaper alone. I was already ultra bullish. It is just a matter of time. Gameplay Illuvium>Axie

[twilit junco]

I still cannot get over a $7b 24h trading volume of $AXS. This is absurd.

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-amazed-explosion-space-omg-gif-10279314

[earnest drift]

agree

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-shocked-surprised-gif-3454434

[red crater]

idd

[elder elbow]

Do you guys play Fortnite

[red crater]

oh shit, he does not sleep

[red crater]

not me

[elder elbow]

What games do you play

[vital lynx]

idd?

[twilit junco]

No NFTs, No play 2 earn. Traditional gaming is dead to me 😄

[red crater]

indeed it's Kieran

play PUBG & Wreckfest atm

[full dome]

man pubg used to be so fun

[red crater]

jep

[elder elbow]

Right

[thorn plover]

'BERTA!
Or North Texas 🤣
(I hate that nickname)

[humble wave]

A leak for the new ATH would be nice. Right? 😁

[light socket]

Hype is part of it and the chart for Axs token is very bullish since it came from a correction. Whales from the investment world are already looking in the NFT space. I'm a trader/investor and I think there is still room for Axs token to double in terms of marketcap

[little flax]

Massive flat out fan, from the very first demo release 17 years ago

[humble wave]

Kieran himself said he'll want to see AXIE in top 10. So, there is also a place reserved for us there 😉

[earnest drift]

Alice is going well too

[eager karma]

When does those seed tokens unlock?

[red crater]

Man, or Destruction Derby back in the day when I was like 10 years old or so 😄

[twilit junco]

End of March 2022. But linear over 12 months

[humble wave]

The can also stake right?

[eager karma]

I think so

[little flax]

Can only stake unlocked coins

[thorn plover]

Morning everyone

[humble wave]

Yeah I meant the ones that are unlocked

[twilit junco]

Seed/Team tokens are already eligable for RevDis. For staking only unlocked tokens can be staked

[eager karma]

Ah yes, they can stake those seed tokens when they unlock

[humble wave]

Ok. Let's see how many end up being staked 😁

[thorn plover]

LFG
Lol
(Just learned what this means for crypto 🤣
Wondered why the hell everyone was looking for a group)

[white lotus]

is that not what you meant

i was about to change into raid gear

[thorn plover]

Apparently it means "let's fucking goooooo"

[cobalt cypress]

guys a quick question

has the date of open beta

changed?

last time i checked

[white lotus]

i say that when i wake up

[thorn plover]

December

[twilit junco]

End of Q4 current estimation

[cobalt cypress]

it was q3 of 2021

[full dome]

LF4M SM cath

[white lotus]

i came downstairs and said HOLY SHIT

my wife said whats wrong

[thorn plover]

NO!

[white lotus]

i said ILLUVIUM

we're rich

go back to bed

[thorn plover]

I'm not fighting whitemane again

[full dome]

but i need her hat.

[thorn plover]

Or the stupid beast master

It is a nice hat I'll give you that much.
Christ
There was some drop i ran that for years ago..... So many times

• que nightmare

[full dome]

lol

[thorn plover]

WTS PORTS TO ANYWHERE. 10G
PST

Can we get a barrens chat channel?
And it's just pure shit-posting?

[sage falcon]

@white lotus fuck yea bro!

[full dome]

isn't that just #degen-trading

i mean people talk about trading 8bit digital old men

that's gotta be on same level of asking where makriks wife is

[earnest drift]

how is everyone this evening.

[next surge]

Terrific

Stonks are up

[thorn plover]

.....damn it Jeff you're right

[white lotus]

ilv-ath-sex, am i allowed to say that?

[velvet tide]

look like people are waking up to Illuvium slowly

[earnest drift]

guess so

lolol

[next surge]

Still a long way to go with the roadmap

1500 eoy

[earnest drift]

at 1 billion would it be 1500

1 bil market cap

[next surge]

Thats nothing for this

50% of axs market cap

[earnest drift]

at 50% Axie market cap. Shit, we would be over few thousand.

[next surge]

100% possible

Should be standard actually

[real tiger]

soon moon

[west hound]

Everyone is feasting on Illuvium,

[real tiger]

147 is nothing yet

[earnest drift]

its 148

[real tiger]

also good xD

[crisp sorrel]

I can not w8 for Demo

[modest pelican]

discord members/24hr vol/price whatever it is, ... 📈

[west hound]

I can’t wait for revenue payments

[modest pelican]

[west hound]

It’s sickening to think how much game rev there will actually be

[modest pelican]

that’s it there 👆🏽

[next surge]

A shitload and whales will buy in when ILV is in the thousands

To get that game rev

[earnest drift]

true

[next surge]

Shame for the whales that are late by then

[west hound]

I mean seriously, we are lucky we are here now, still early, this thing is going to blow up.

[next surge]

Yeah boi

[vital lynx]

The whales want the market cap to be a billion before they get in

It feels more stable for them

😏

[past flume]

Lots of leverage dudes Rn are probably just taking fat Ls today 😂

[vital lynx]

Thx leverage dudes

please leverage more

[past flume]

Why?

No because the opposite is happening

Some dudes thought it would crash today a little

Must be something good happening behind scenes

Could be a bull trap

Or just a manipulation

[weary spruce]

They'll be a day in the not too distant future ILV will be sitting in the top 20 on CG and CMC with a MC of over 10B with a price in the multiple thousands

[past flume]

3 years ilv supply will be 10b

So multiple thousand just can’t happen unfortunately

Unless we reach a 100-200b company to get the 5 digits in 3 years

[weary spruce]

Even with circ supply and FD it'll be that. wait and see

[past flume]

?

[weary spruce]

I was giving a low estimate

[past flume]

Wym

In 3-4 years time we will have about 10b supply which makes it a total of 10b marketcap for each 1k per coin

And 100$ per 1b

[weary spruce]

In my eyes ILV and companies like UOS will be valued at over 100 B

[past flume]

ILV seems like a pretty promising new project

Maybe in 5-20ywars we can see those crazy numbers if they continue to make great games

[weary spruce]

P2E is and always was the future of gaming. Especially AAA games

[past flume]

If Ada can get 50b with zero utility just all talk than why can’t ILV

That’s the real question

https://tenor.com/view/baby-scream-yeah-hockey-kid-angry-gif-11733200

[weary spruce]

exactly

[past flume]

But you never know what axie will do it can explodeand the gaming cryptos will be the hot topic and ILV is just that much better it will surpass billions

[full dome]

https://gfycat.com/gaseouswickedbufflehead

[past flume]

Yoooo

[full dome]

come on wojak we ILV upgraded that gif

get with it 😛

[past flume]

That’s insane

Holy shit how did you do it that fast

[full dome]

LOL i assure you i did not do it in 60 seconds

[past flume]

https://tenor.com/view/lamborghini-cars-car-sports-cars-lambo-gif-16805284

[full dome]

i am still a scrub so it took me, um, a bit 😄

[past flume]

@full dome

Come on

[weary spruce]

If ILV team creates what we all believe to be which is next generation P2E gaming it will go over 100B . Gaming is recession proof

[past flume]

Hahahahahhhahahaha

[past flume]

From how good axie is going than ILV hitting those number just wouldn’t surprise me. Axie looks like such a shit game in the preview it’s just people making money

It’s like flappy birds who would of thought that amount of people would play it 😂

Owner rugged

[weary spruce]

This is the reason ILV will be in the multiple thousands regardless of circ supply and MC. It's light years ahead of these shit games. People want to make money playing video games. It's the holy grail.

and amazing games

[past flume]

The fact it’s an auto battler with cards that’s fun asf

And you can make money off it

Different story

[weary spruce]

yep, and the open world exploration aspect to collect Illuvials

[next surge]

The hard choice in the end will be

Sell when the market cap is in the 10’s of billions

Or hold forever for game rev

[thorn plover]

Very nice

[thorn plover]

Are all of your gifs searchable with "Illuvium"
That's typically how I find them but I'm wondering if more are hiding behind other tags 😉

[next surge]

Instil more confidence

[thorn plover]

Didn't think the owner of flappy birds "rugged"
didn't he just remove from the app store because the fame/fortune was too much?

[full dome]

these are my standard tenor(discord/TG searchable tags)

illuvium,ILV,$ILV,yield farming,yield farm,play2earn,p2e,play to earn,crypto,cryptocurrency,cryptogaming,crypto gaming,blockchain gaming,RPG,autobattler

[thorn plover]

Not that that's relevant or matters xD

[thorn plover]

Screencapped 👍

[vital lynx]

he even committed suicide

is that supposed to be the ultimate rug pull?

[thorn plover]

Holy crap. I hadn't heard that 🤯

Maybe it's a QuadrigaX level pull? 🤔 Hmm

[static patrol]

10 million sir

[edgy idol]

What’s AAA game?

[full dome]

generally means a game produced by a major studio/having that level of quality

[thorn plover]

Kinda like AAA Alberta Beef.
It's kind of a big deal

[sweet pendant]

Could be lower

[thorn plover]

🥩

[vernal vale]

it will be lower, but no one knows how much

already around 1k sILV claimed, so ilv max cap is 9.99m lol

[past flume]

Oh yea whoops

[dense cloud]

Hello friends. To play the game, it's necessary to get ilv token?

[thorn plover]

No. It's for governance and sick gains

[dense cloud]

even the play to earn part of the game?

[thorn plover]

Correct

It's separate

Highly recommend reading the white paper and checking out Tokenomics though. Most people are blown away

[dense cloud]

Ok. Thanks!

[thorn plover]

https://docs.illuvium.io/

ALSO
#🚰〕leaks

[next surge]

More silv needs claiming

Bring that max supply down

[velvet tide]

hehe yes ser

[full dome]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[past flume]

You sure?

[full dome]

https://gfycat.com/unimportantgargantuanamurstarfish

[next surge]

[thorn plover]

I'll claim sILV once I stop making sweet compounding ILV gains

[full dome]

hey man, i have more than 2 whole sILV to my name

[thorn plover]

You fancy

[full dome]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-miller-rich-new-girl-full-tank-gas-gif-4559128

[thorn plover]

Oh Nick

[past flume]

Imagine once clix gives tutorials on how to make money from ILV just grinding the game

👀👀

[next surge]

Wont just be clix making that kind of video will it ?

[static patrol]

Alters your views on possible future price, hey... 😉

[past flume]

Look I typo it lmao if it was 10b I would rug pull now

[next surge]

ILV to 100bn

Then flip btc

[past flume]

Wish

[next surge]

Easy

[past flume]

Nah won’t be .

[next surge]

[past flume]

Will@be everyone honestly

Non partners

😏

Jrny crypto

[next surge]

Then when ppl know how to make money off ilv

[past flume]

Alex becker

Everyone

[next surge]

PAmP

[past flume]

😏

Hehe

[next surge]

Too many things will pump ILV

too many to count

Exciting

[past flume]

Actually it is needed. People need money because of Covid

[next surge]

And covid cant stop gaming in any way

Covid proof

[past flume]

But at the same time no one has the money to invest

But doesn’t stop gaming

[next surge]

[past flume]

Becker is always right

[next surge]

[thorn plover]

Well what do you do if you're forced to quarantine?

Ok. Guess I'll game for a few weeks lol

[next surge]

Or months

[velvet tide]

and become rich while playing 😄

[thorn plover]

Or months.

[next surge]

If we hit a big number of players

Its gonna be party time

Whatever axs do should be the minimum for ILV

mc, players etc

[past flume]

Should@be the standard

Hehe

[thorn plover]

Hope so

[next surge]

ILV is a Lamborghini/bugatti and AXS is a mercedes

Cant compare

[past flume]

Very exciting future is all we can look forward to

[next surge]

[simple sierra]

back from vacantion 😮 price at 143 POG

GG ez

[lofty knoll]

All I see is massive green dildos

Erhm.. good morning

[next surge]

200 next target

[humble wave]

The biggest red has been 1500 ILV dump 😁

[little flax]

Just so you’re aware, Kieran and I aren’t going for axs. We’re going for taking out Pokémon

[next surge]

Ez

[humble wave]

So first Pokemon and then Blizzard. Cool cool

[little flax]

Never gave a shit about crypto gaming tbh

[past flume]

Take out the whole gaming industry

[little flax]

They can run til the end of the earth. They’ll never run far enough

[past flume]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-whoah-gif-14206432

[humble wave]

The idea of being open-ended is cool 😎

[past flume]

@full dome

Perfect opportunity here

[full dome]

i mean i shill ILV as the open-world pokemon PC* game we've been impatiently waiting for for 25 years.

[eager karma]

Yup, that's how I shill it too, but also trying to explain all the things that will make it revolutionary

[edgy idol]

Is it right to say, gameplay to illuvium is likened to Pokémon and final fantasy ?

[next surge]

What does taking out pokemon translate to for ilv market cap ?

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/guitar-kangaroo-roo-autobattler-rpg-gif-22412583

[warped citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/you-you-are-yes-this-guy-gif-11632510

[brisk pagoda]

oh god including merch it's insane. quick google says 105 billion

so like a lot lol

[calm arrow]

When my grandkids are watching the 15th series of illuvium anime, I'll be drowning in money

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-future-gif-4767605

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-have-friends-i-have-family-theyre-not-my-friends-theyre-my-family-more-than-friends-gif-16061717

Aint in it for the money, I want to be a part of something bigger than myself.

[quick kayak]

lets promote that a $IMX airdrop should also go to $ILV stakers

https://twitter.com/blockomoco/status/1418943809400958976?s=20

blockomoco (@blockomoco)

Pls also airdrop to @illuviumio stakers. https://t.co/4OUnaJPr7a

Twitter · Jul 24, 2021, 2:39 PM

[next surge]

More than blizzard then

Pokemon is the goal not blizzard

[hollow drum]

Might as well just go for all of Nintendo at that point then

[next surge]

5-10 year goal this is i assume

[white lotus]

I'm in it for the money. I'm in it for a healthy economy that helps hard-gaming individuals prosper. I'm in to be a part of a digital revolution. I'm in it so that I can go to work in my underwear and love my job, sip coffee and hang out with the kids.

[hollow drum]

10 year is good goal

[brisk pagoda]

apparently pokemon made 3 mil off jet airline sales lmao

[static patrol]

😆

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/positive-bear-relax-stay-positive-positive-attitude-gif-5484463

https://tenor.com/view/letgo-lets-goooo-pickles-lets-go-excited-gif-13808708

[twilit junco]

$AXS still pumping. Almost $2.7b market cap now and it's 24h trading volume went up another half billion to $7.5b.

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-to-sit-down-bree-washington-first-wives-club-give-me-a-seat-i-need-to-be-seated-gif-22337849

[hollow drum]

AXS at 48.61

[lavish cape]

All we need is a single video file of gameplay 😆

[hollow drum]

everyone be patient

our time will come

[white lotus]

I think people need to be thankful it is still sthis cheap to get in

[hollow drum]

Yup

[white lotus]

Trains leaving, get your tickets now

[hollow drum]

we have been tellin em

said it at 30

said it at 60

said it at 90

[white lotus]

Next stop

[twilit junco]

Yeah, that one is out of the window now for me. People can say what they want about Axie, but the numbers they pull off right now are mindblowing and to think how much more ILV has to offer. The next 2-3 months until we hopefully at least get our hands on the mini-game already and see the first Revenue coming in, are going to be a pain 🙂

[white lotus]

Lambo island

[vital lynx]

keep going

[hollow drum]

I think it is a proof of the thesis and concept

thats all

[hollow drum]

Said it at 120

[white lotus]

How bout this.

[vital lynx]

And soon we can say "Said it at 150"

buy ILV at 150

[languid stump]

WGMI

[hollow drum]

Take in

the people who bought ATH at balancer

are profitable....

[white lotus]

We're comparing to a working product that launched over 3 years ago.

[vital lynx]

New people to ILV need to know the legends

[hollow drum]

Ya facts, people think AXS had overnight success

like

its taken time

It was all when they moved to their sidechain

[twilit junco]

Absolutely. I just never imagined that Axie in it's current state could pull off these kind of numbers. I was never worried about the potential of crypto gaming in general, that's why I went all-in. But considering Axie's state, if those numbers are possible (also, who says they reached their personal top already), just imagine what ILV could look like just a few months after launch.

[white lotus]

Truly

[hollow drum]

because people like me that looked at the game and said no way that wont work, too much gas (in Feb-April) didnt invest. But now BAM.

[white lotus]

Patience is key

Rome wasn't built overnight.

Epic team

That in itself is bullish hype

[hollow drum]

Those who are patient are rewarded by the passing of time

-Wade Watts

[twilit junco]

Well, I'm impatient as f***. Still holding, so I will see those rewards. Passing the time until EOY is just going to be a mess 😄

[hollow drum]

xPut this on a damn shirt

[vital lynx]

Alright literally everyone who's made 10x needs to have illuvium somehwere in their discord name

[next surge]

$50 per ilv per month

[vital lynx]

soon

[humble wave]

Price at $100 or $1000, it's other things I want to see 😉

[white lotus]

Like, what is the general consensus of axie players as for their motivation to get into it?

[hollow drum]

Im only 3X rn almost

[white lotus]

I only know one axie investor and their motivation was purely money.

[hollow drum]

I think we should add roles other than mods

[vital lynx]

Pretty sure with YF most of us are around 3X, so we only need $500 ILV

[eager karma]

There was a pool about that and the majority was for the money, second for the community, and last for the game itself

Can't recall the exact %

[twilit junco]

That and more is possible, yes. Impossible to tell though if - and if so, when - that actually will happen.

[humble wave]

For ILV to be $1000 or reaching billions of MC, the RevShare would be so insane that you will want to keep starting at your wallet not believing what your eyes see.

[hollow drum]

Speak it into existance

[white lotus]

So when people are on day 3 of playing olluvium without sleep cause they love playing the game, then what. Do we all just win the internets?

[hollow drum]

each ILV will generate $50 per month in revenue distributions - (PREDICTION NFA)

[eager karma]

Yes, pretty much

[humble wave]

Yeah and you'd be crazy to withdraw and lose it 😁

[vital lynx]

1+1=2 it's simple stuff

[white lotus]

Cool, so I'm in the right place

[eager karma]

And then bam, another game from Illuvium team launchs

[hollow drum]

I told ya

Im never withdrawing aside from my cost base

always been the plan

[vital lynx]

cost base has always been in the plan for me too

investing 101

[hollow drum]

yup

[twilit junco]

Well, just remember that the mini-game probably will be approved by the council. That already means two games that start revenue distribution within the next ~5 months.

[humble wave]

That's what living off RevDis means. Take what you need, compound the rest

[white lotus]

Idk about other countries, but as an American I have had extensive conversations with my tax guy about digital asset farming and the like.

Yall better get prepared.

[hollow drum]

Ya Imma need a tax accountant, and I am an accountant....

rip

[white lotus]

Don't end up dying in jail like capone for tax evasion when you can't explain where that 2m came from

[twilit junco]

That's why I'm going to quit my job and move to a crypto tax friendly country as soon as possible 😄

[white lotus]

Puerto rico

[eager karma]

Yes I know. But I was talking specifically about main games. I know there's plans for another one in 2023. And I bet that after the success of this first one, the Illuvium team will be able to hire even more talented people to help in new games. The quality of the games will only go up.

[white lotus]

Until it passes statehood in 6 months.

[humble wave]

Besides you don't have to withdraw all your 2m all together. I don't think any exchange will even allow that lol. Besides, withdrawing will be a mistake if you get $50 per ILV

[eager karma]

Come to Portugal 😁

[twilit junco]

I wouldn't underestimate, what the mini-game can turn into 🙂 But all in all, I agree, yeah.

[white lotus]

Binance us allows up to 1m per TX for me...

[vital lynx]

Better start researching, you're leaving soon then 🚀

[white lotus]

Never had that much to try lolol

[white lotus]

Pack your bags. We're leaving tomorrow!

[next surge]

Withdraw a smaller amount each month, no one cares about 2-3k going into ur bank a month ?

[vital lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-bezos-rocket-gif-21411085

[white lotus]

Lol

[next surge]

Withdraw 2 mill and yeah u got a problem

[vital lynx]

Yeap this is what you do^

[humble wave]

3k? I don't even spend $500 per month. I just take out the dust and compound the rest lol

[white lotus]

Alright

It's settled

[next surge]

Living without working

Good enough

Thats real wealth

[white lotus]

Somebody here need to buy an island. Make it a country with lenient crypto taxation.

[next surge]

Having time to do what you want and the money there to do it

[eager karma]

Tough problem to have... How to cash out enormous quantities of money? 😆

[humble wave]

I'll always work. But do what I like.

[twilit junco]

Portugal is not a good country for crypto taxes. I see it suggested again and again, and every time I investigate it, it still ends with the fact that the portugal tax systems looks like it would indeed tax you if 100% of your income comes from crypto. There is too much of a grey zone when it comes to Portugal for me. I'll be either moving to the Netherlands where the wealth tax on crypto assets would be neglectable. Also looking into Dubai or Costa Rica currently for some alternatives.

[white lotus]

We'll all move and start a science facility where we create illuvials

[humble wave]

Buy property from people who know crypto. Instead if bank transfer, send USDT to their MM directly 😉

[white lotus]

And then jurassic park happens all over again.

[twilit junco]

Oh, trust me. I'm doing almost nothing else anymore. Work from home as much as I still have to, the rest is ILV/Crypto all day including to figure out where to 😄

[eager karma]

Nope. If you don't do it at professional level, you don't need to declare what you receive in crypto. But if you're a business and receive payments in crypto, you have to declare those.

[white lotus]

moves to portugal

[eager karma]

You can however declare your crypto assets but you will not be taxed.

[twilit junco]

Exactly, and the definition of "professional" is not easily found when it comes to Portugal. I've read about people (cannot confirm it myself) who apparently got wrecked because they indeed were categorized as "professional" simply because 100% of their income came from crypto. Also, don't forget that - at least for me personally - there will be a ton of activity on the marketplace and play2earn. Who says that this suddenly doesn't makes it "day-trading" in Portugal? Nah, I hope for everyone who is there or goes there, that they will be fine, but for me, Portugal is too risky in terms of taxes 🙂

[vernal vale]

not to advocate tax evasion, but there should be very many ways

to dodge it

lol

[vital lynx]

have you looked into singapore?

[eager karma]

You can do day trading. That's not considered professional.

[humble wave]

You can come here too 😁 but I would def choose the Netherlands over other countries

[calm arrow]

Look into the UK and its capital gains tax laws. They aren't the best in the works but are good, and its a very good country for loads of reasons

[sage falcon]

hI 🙂

[twilit junco]

Yes, tax wise it seems to be great from what I could gather so far. But getting a visa to actually live there seemed to be more of an issue. Need to look into it more though.

[humble wave]

Hey

[sage falcon]

this game looks good from what i read and see, however.... how can the token already be worth $143.09, when its not even being used/played yet?

[next surge]

Research the economy and market cap man

[humble wave]

Through staking for now. Lots of it is staked atm plus the market can is too low for a project like this

[twilit junco]

Uh, nah. Not a UK fan at all, sorry 😄 Also, if I stay in Europe, then it's easy with either Netherlands as a german citizen. Or maybe also Malta. Malta supposedly is great too, but I haven't looked into it that much yet.

[next surge]

Theres a low max supply

[sage falcon]

ah ok, of course... Staking!

[supple tendon]

Put a stake in it 🚀🚀🚀

[humble wave]

Don't ever go to the UK.

[exotic tiger]

Is clix in this servers

[next surge]

https://tenor.com/view/meat-slap-that-meat-salt-bae-gif-7897765

[exotic tiger]

Server*

[eager karma]

I also would love to live in Netherlands. Maybe when I'm retired.

[humble wave]

We'll all be retired soon no worries

[twilit junco]

Just need a big enough bag of ILV 😄

[vital lynx]

What's wrong with UK exactly?

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-gif-22175171

[next surge]

[supple tendon]

😂

[vital lynx]

is it the anti binance thing?

[humble wave]

Too much FUD and uncertainty. They always want to move against the current.

[eager karma]

Actually I had plans to retire in 5 years with ETH only. Now it looks like I'll retire early thanks to ILV also 😁

[humble wave]

Binance was just a detail

[vital lynx]

lol fud has uncertainty built into it
Fear
Uncertainty
Doubt

[supple tendon]

You gotta risk it to get the biscuit

[humble wave]

Exactly. U can find it in the UK everywhere. Look at it. Its a not even truly a part of Europe ffs

[vital lynx]

Well it's quite expensive anyways

[humble wave]

Final destination: the Netherlands or Dubai. Depends on your taste if you like to get cooked or drawn in rain 😁

[white lotus]

Tax laws gonna change every year until crypto is truly mainstream and its regulated like everything else and it's normalized. Just my opinion.

[red crater]

meh dubai overrated

[humble wave]

I spend TOPS $500 every month here. So, as long as it's comfortable I might get the citizenship of other countries, but will live here and spend in $.

[white lotus]

Right now they think it's Penny stocks

[humble wave]

Not my type either

[red crater]

amsterdam ftw

very lively city ;

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-leonardo-dicaprio-django-unchained-meme-gif-18513725

[vital lynx]

If you get a citizenship in another country there will be a set number of months per year you need to live in that country

so other times, you can spend only $500 lmao

[eager karma]

Dubai is not very friendly for my taste... I like the Netherlands vibe, iykwim 😁

[vital lynx]

rich people problems

[humble wave]

Not if you buy property there. Buy a house worth $250k in Turkey and in a month they'll give you the passport

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/craig-jones-ice-cube-friday-high-stoned-gif-7909672

[vital lynx]

Different for every country I suppose

[twilit junco]

Amsterdam is on my list 😄 If I go to the Netherlands it's probably going to be either Enschede if I decide to go for something smaller, less capital like, or it's going to be Amsterdam 😄 I could see the latter happening due to everything the city has to offer. Plus, probably much easier to get by with english as well. Although Enschede, since its located right at the german border, probably would be easy to live in with German/English too.

[white lotus]

I'll say this, chicago is twice as expensive as colorado

[humble wave]

Yes, but money always works. Buying property is the easiest way of getting a citizenship. Plus, you won't be working, so staying in other countries for some months to get the pass is pretty easy

[white lotus]

Just fyi

[vital lynx]

I'm pretty sure for alot of countries there's still a requirement to live there like 3 months in a year if I'm remembering

[sage falcon]

U could probably get one of those genius visas haha.

[humble wave]

U have money, nothing will be a problem. Whatever they want, you can solve.

[vital lynx]

Oh dear, what have we turned you into

[humble wave]

The goal is the pass 😁 I wanna be as Visa-free as possible

[white lotus]

You can come crash at my house.

[humble wave]

Nothing. This is how the world works. Money always opens the path. I'm not talking about bribing. I'm talking about investing 😉

[humble wave]

The US?

[sage falcon]

I c, settling down is a hard prospect. I plan on being a nomad for the most part lol.

[white lotus]

For now

[eager karma]

In Portugal you can have a golden visa if you invest 500k in property. No need to live in here for 3 months. Or you could in the past, I think it was suspended because there were some scandals...

[white lotus]

Maybe moving to.portugal

[humble wave]

Just gonna visit you to take a trip to New York, Yellow Stone, RedWood trees and the Grand Canyon. Other than that, I'm not gonna live there at all 😁

[red crater]

Portugal is very cryptofriendly

[eager karma]

Ah you mean to live at least 3 months in a year to be considered a resident? Probably... Have to check

[humble wave]

I'll try to have many options to move to. Love to travel though

[white lotus]

I was just trying to get free babysitting so my wife and I can go on vacation

[sage falcon]

I always wanted to go to Portugal to see ronaldo play.

[eager karma]

Yes, I have been investing since 2017 and I've paid 0 taxes.

[humble wave]

Haha I am a teacher and not a baby sitter 😂

[red crater]

I'm visiting Porto in September. One of my best friends lives there

[sage falcon]

Noice

[vital lynx]

ah yes that's what I mean, like permanent resident

[white lotus]

Teach them to babysit themselves then

[twilit junco]

Do you have income outside of crypto? And do you declare your taxes every year, including a report of your crypto gains?

[eager karma]

That's the best city... But maybe I'm biased, because I live in Porto 😁

[humble wave]

Permanent? Which country?

[red crater]

my friend told me they think at the end of this year, there might be financial crisis due to Corona. If the housemarket collapses, I'm definately buying some property in Porto

[eager karma]

I have a normal job yes, and no, I don't declare my cryptos. Don't need to. There was a communication from the tax authorities that said we didn't have to declare it.

[twilit junco]

Ok, thanks. I will look into it once more.

[eager karma]

I have some articles explaining that, but they're in Portuguese

[red crater]

Portugal is prolly the most Cryptofriendly country in the EU @twilit junco

[eager karma]

https://www.e-konomista.pt/bitcoin-no-irs/

(can't remove the preview, I'm on cellphone, sorry)

[foggy arch]

we are just getting started

boyz

[vital lynx]

maybe the only problem is I don't speak spanish lol

[quick kayak]

Cyprus too

[eager karma]

But I understand your concern. If you don't have a job and you're living a luxurious life, the tax authorities might become suspicious about the origin of your wealth. So it's advised for you to declare your cryptos, but you will not be taxed.

[red crater]

nice

[white lotus]

Omg it's back up

[eager karma]

But I'll be honest, I don't expect this tax heaven to last forever. Government is always looking for ways to tax the people. Don't know how they still aren't taxing cryptos to be honest.

[vital lynx]

needs to be back up to $150 so we can say, I told you so @ $150

[foggy arch]

where they dont tax ???? Tell me please

[eager karma]

Portugal

[foggy arch]

paradise for those that trade crypto

[eager karma]

Yes

[foggy arch]

here on Brazil there's a 15% on profits above $7k sell

[lofty knoll]

Hey @sage falcon you are in profit.

[twilit junco]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-baby-goal-funny-face-gif-13347383

[foggy arch]

Did he buy the balancer peak ?

[lofty knoll]

Yea hahahahha

[vernal vale]

💯

[foggy arch]

diamond hands

that voice chat saved so many life savings

lmao

[lofty knoll]

Indeed

Hahaha

[blazing cove]

Sooooo.....what is this?

[vital lynx]

I've got pictures on hand of the legend

He's like the statue of liberty

[lofty knoll]

Hahahhaha

[full dome]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator2-terminator-arnold-schwarzenegger-cyborg-robot-gif-7974568

[vernal vale]

in honor of peperoni i too just bought more in the 140s

😋

[foggy arch]

$91M mc, juice

[blazing cove]

What kind of drugs do the designers use?
I'd like some as well

[vital lynx]

only the OGs remember that epic sale

it felt so long ago

[foggy arch]

exactly hahaha, I waited about 18 hours to make my first buy on $57

that was insane

[humble wave]

Very good entry

[foggy arch]

the voice chat calmed a lot of ppl tbh

[humble wave]

Now reap the reward 😉

[foggy arch]

FULL STAKING

[vital lynx]

That's a damn good buy, mine ended up being $65 during the sale lmao

[sage falcon]

the IMX airdrop, will it be applicable to people who hold GU cards, or do you need to buy them off the marketplace to get IMX??

[velvet tide]

gonna reap the rward for years

[humble wave]

Also a good entry. One we'll probably never see again.

[foggy arch]

good entry price as well

[humble wave]

Yeah. The reawrda are not here yet. We'll receive them in 3-4 months 😜 limitless

[autumn pawn]

Cyprus banks will drop you if they learn you have crypto....

[velvet tide]

Will be so much fun man

[autumn pawn]

Do you have positive experience with crypto in Cyprus?

[velvet tide]

Doesnt matter, if you are in the EU you get a bank account everywhere basically. Bankera is cryptofriendly, from there you can send everywhere

[autumn pawn]

Thinking more about taxes...

[foggy arch]

what's the current taxes on USA ?

[twilit junco]

$148. We're getting close to $150 😄

[foggy arch]

wrong reply , sorry my man

[humble wave]

Got it. I deleted the response

[ivory dome]

Sorry..Another stupid noob question..I’m guessing there’s no revenue yet to share since no actual games out?

[humble wave]

The farther from 100, the cooler 😁 saying that because I have nothing to throw at it lol

[velvet tide]

If you wanna stay in EU, cyprus is the best choice

[humble wave]

You guess correctly

[twilit junco]

Correct. Mystery and or land sale should be the first revenue share events. Then any revenue the vault gets via mini-game and main-game will follow.

[cunning magnet]

hello everyone

[humble wave]

Hey

[cunning magnet]

hello my friend how r u

[humble wave]

Thx bro. Whats up

[cunning magnet]

fine dude thnks

[velvet tide]

No not directly, but I have been researching. In the EU cyprus and monaco are the best options. But you only need to stay 2 months in a year in cyprus, Monaco is 6 months mandatory. Monaco is only worth it with a net worth of over 10 million liquid imo. Also 6 months in monaco might not be as fun as youd imagine, golden prison

[vital lynx]

Never thought of monaco as fun lmao

[sage falcon]

A question for the stakers, how often does impermanent loss occur?......... i understand the concept, just not the frequency of it occuring

[red crater]

alot

[final imp]

admin？

[sage falcon]

why so many stakers then if thats the case? risk = reward?

[red crater]

whenever price fluctuations are big, which is all the time in crypto

idd

[vernal vale]

wow

gas just went wild

200 now

[final imp]

which option can i withdraw

[sage falcon]

i'm definitely missing something when it comes staking/ liquidity providing... if IL is high probability then surely it is a bad bet....

[red crater]

gas tends to skyrocket everytime a big NFT project starts minting/doing their sale

[full dome]

i mean you get 600% APY on your ILV...that's quite the safety net lmao

[sage falcon]

but if it were such a bad bet then $Millions wouldnt flow in to it...

[near pier]

Not really because the rewards out weigh the IL

[vernal vale]

oh is that what it is?

i see

[red crater]

during artblocks it was 1000 gwei 😄

[sage falcon]

so whats a worst case outcome on IL, with the 600APY. because its Annual at the end of the day isnt it, not hou8rly or weekly etc

[full dome]

no one knows

lol

ETH can go 100x, ILV can go 100x, ETH can go -80% and ILV +800%. it's really pointless to ask

it always comes down to your own belief and risk tolerance

[lofty knoll]

Exactly

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-channing-tatum-22jump-street-disguise-gif-8025876

[sage falcon]

well I wouldnt say pointless when trying to consider risk reward of money that took days/hours to earn... sure 600APY, sounds great but i'm just tried to work out an actual realised profit of it, and not the smoke and mirrors side.

[sage falcon]

understood

my risk tolerance is quite high on small cap alt coins but not IL lol. Dont ask me why...

i'm so nervy about it!

[vernal vale]

its prob just that sense you get

when your coin mooned

[red crater]

so wellspoken this jeff guy

[vernal vale]

but ur getting a fraction of what you should be

[velvet tide]

haha, yeah

[vernal vale]

because you liquidity provided

[velvet tide]

So crazy, I saw it spike to 1400

i was like WTF

[flat ore]

if you think ILV is keeping stable with ETH. LP pool is perfect. IL is minimal.
if you believe ILV is going to 10x eth in the next few months.... LP staking might not be the best option even with 600% apr. 10x will result in a 42%+ impermanent loss.

[lofty knoll]

https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac

I see a lot of people aping in here without taking the time to look for the information and do their research.

[velvet tide]

Some people prefer some lower risk, and wanna just stake their ILV

which is fine

[sage falcon]

so hang on a second... help, me out. Impermanent loss is only realised if you withdraw when the price difference is current, if you leave in place until it levels out, then its not realised? and if thats the case, is there a point in which you have to release or realise your stake, and the IL.

[flat ore]

yes. a lot of people who bought recently just do ILV staking. simpler. also don't really care if ILV 10x or 100x. they get the full benefit... at the cost of 600% apr.

[sage falcon]

dont worry i'm not aping in to anything, just asking those that know more than me

[velvet tide]

Yeah but IL is real. It can truly impact your performance, you should really understand IL, before putting your money in

[sage falcon]

no i agree completely, thats what with all the questions... -)

[flat ore]

if it level out that mean it is keeping stable with eth. if you believe 1 year down the road. 1ILV = 0.066eth like right now... then by all mean do LP. free money.

[velvet tide]

Yeah, but there si still risk involved. You make it look like ILV success is 100% safe, which I would hope for, but still there is a rsik and in this space anything can happen

[velvet tide]

Yeah, took me quite a while to understand IL deeply

[flat ore]

everything is a gamble. there could be a hack tomorrow. and someone drain all the eth out of the LP pool also.

[velvet tide]

exactly

But lets hope fir 100x, thats more fun 😄

[flat ore]

that's why you are rewarded for taking on higher risk and offering more service... you are providing liquidity to onboard new users.

[vernal vale]

i want to bandwagon this question though, if you stake the SLP from liquidity providing, do you lose out on the fees u got from LP from sushiswap?

[sage falcon]

yea of course, there is way too many variables of risk, most of which are out of my control. However exposing myself to IL is a risk I control, so i'm just taking my time with it... I only gamble what i am happy or able to lose. Which lets face it, its all gamble...

[velvet tide]

I didnt argue that, just that people have different risk profiles and should only do what they understand. Lock your ILV flexibel for a bit while you learn and if you are more educated about it you can still change your decision

[velvet tide]

SO true 😄

[twilit junco]

I'm not sure if $ILV can pull off a x100. Maybe from it's all time low at ~$30 which would mean $3.000 per $ILV which already sounds crazy, but anything more than that? Man, that would be bonkers 🙂

[flat ore]

yep. it all come down to higher risk.. higher reward potentially.

[sage falcon]

I think your right, and i am probably in a sense of the words "swimming after the boat" but there is almost definitly gains to be had there./

[flat ore]

Don't underestimate fomo. I didn't think aave could pull 100m TVL when they had 3m tvl. now they have 3B tvl

[sage falcon]

lol well... I never say never

[twilit junco]

I'm just talking about x100 being unlikely - in my opinion. In general, gains from $ILV are expected to be ridiculous. Also, RevDis is where the true wealth will come from.

[flat ore]

If you think ILV can be top 50. use that as a metric.

take that divide by total token. there is your price.

[velvet tide]

I mean if crypto taught me one thing: It always gets crazier than in your wildest dreams. I agree though 10k ILV is a bit steep, but then it is "only" a 100 billion valuation. with 10-15 million players that could be realistic, I have no idea

[real tiger]

of we can reach top 50

and i think we wil

will

[sage falcon]

my main concern at the moment, is with all nft/game token... they are poppin off! and it will simmer down at somepoint, probably when bitcoin kicks off again...

[twilit junco]

$AXS is 41 right now. Top 50 should be more than doable for $ILV, yeah.

[velvet tide]

I think the whole NFT gaming space will develop its own cycle

[twilit junco]

Yeah, we might see numbers we can't even fathom yet. Just look at $AXS. 24h trading volume is still going up and closing in on 8 BILLION.

[sage falcon]

the other problem is, and i completely think that ilv looks a like a great game, there will be another game tomorrow...

[flat ore]

I do think ILV can reach top 50...assuming they deliver. They have dephi digital as a partner on their main page and solve some of the problems with snx token model. This alone should bring it to top 100 already.

[fiery pecan]

Wen game

[flat ore]

remember top 50 today... might not be the same as top 50 1 year from now. top 50 today might mean 3B ... top 50 next year might be 10B. if the whole market grow.

[twilit junco]

Bitcoin pumping is certainly not going to negatively affect gaming tokens. Quite the contrary in my opinion. Also, 1-2 years from now (if even that) I don't see BTC having any major impact on those tokens anymore. Gamers don't care about market, bearish, bullish and whatnot. They'll keep spending.

[twilit junco]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Numerous partnerships with influencers throughout the
  next months
• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Mystery Auction shortly coming soon
• Closed beta this summer
• Open Beta / launch in late Q4
• Tier 1 Centralized Exchange listings imminent, date
  unknown.

[calm arrow]

This. Gaming crypto is going to decouple from the wider market in time

[twilit junco]

$149.2 - almost there 🙂

[past jay]

Gamers will still care about their purchasing power being eroded though, no?

[flat ore]

Not sure about decouple but gaming is a great way to onboard users... who do not care about defi... but they do care about making money and about video games.

[calm arrow]

I'd find these returns mental as is, but I've literally been given free ILV for staking too. I can't wrap my head around how my single digit IQ managed to pull this off

[sage falcon]

isn't it being used essentially like defi at the moment though, with the 3rd world gaming teams making $20K+ for its (employers if you will) plus the staking, when bitcoin rallies, it will do what it always does from the altcoins (nft's) and that is roll back in to btc? no ??

[velvet tide]

Thats so ridiculous

NFT gaming is just starting

[twilit junco]

By what? We will have tons of players spending tons of money in the game without even holding a single $ILV themselves. RevDis is going to stay up even if the token market might be in a bear cycle at one point.

[supple lantern]

Why does it.. go up

[twilit junco]

Crypto Gaming exploding. Look at $AXS, $SKILL and others

[sage falcon]

as long as you still have people playing the game - yes.

[twilit junco]

Yeah, I'm not worried about a lack of players 🙂

[flat ore]

You get lots of volume when binance and ftx add futures on your token. When you have 10x 100x leverage. Lots of degen will produce lots of volume.

[tired terrace]

Yeh it's crazy 3rd highest volume after btc and eth

[supple lantern]

Am i losing the train again like axie

[twilit junco]

Yep. What a lot of people don't get right now in terms of staking is that they need to evaluate every single $ILV based upon it's value 12 months from now. Yes, you might gain a single $ILV a day right now worth $140. That isn't what you are getting for free though. You are getting $1.000 or whatever it is in year for free PLUS any compound effect AND RevDis acquired via those free $ILV.

[white lotus]

thats not bad

[twilit junco]

$ILV is just getting started. You would be still super early here

[calm arrow]

Exactly. And all the while your staked ILV is going up in value too. Someone broke the money printer, and I'm benefiting.

[white lotus]

when open beta rolls out, you better have you ilv

[sage falcon]

good point...

[supple lantern]

When open beta comes.. ilv would be way up 148 plus

[velvet tide]

this so much, people dont understand this pahes right now is DeFi in 2019

[white lotus]

he said 3 digits

[flat ore]

Right now ILV is at rank #290 .. if you believe this is going to top 100 or even top 50.. then we have a lot of growth potential left.

[white lotus]

🤣

[brisk pagoda]

I see you're new here XD welcome to the hype train

Top 5 or bust baby

[past jay]

We are expecting all gamers to become crypto literate by forcing them to be aware of their spending in game being finalised in ETH? If so then they will generally be aware of how much ETH their dollars are worth compared to a week or month ago in a bear market. I'm not sure how much the 'gamers don't care about the market' thing will hold true when they're forced to be aware of it

[hollow drum]

Anything below 2K ILV is FUD

[flat ore]

yeah you can take it the rest of the way. I don't hold anything above top 30 beside eth 🙂

[twilit junco]

NFT Games will break into the Top 20 maybe even Top 10 for sure. Right now, we only look at $AXS as cap because no gaming token has surpassed what they are achieving so far. That's not the ceiling though. When mainstream starts to adopt crypto gaming, numbers will go beyond anything a lot of people ever could dream of. And if the team here delivers EOY and onwards, then $ILV will be a part of leading this revolution.

[sage falcon]

i did it, i just bought 120 ILV!

[hollow drum]

Put that on a damn shirt

[hollow drum]

Better late than never

🙂

[sage falcon]

lol

[hollow drum]

haha

[twilit junco]

Congratulations. Enjoy the ride 🙂

[hollow drum]

just kidding

you are early AF

we have 10X to get to AXS marketcap....

[velvet tide]

hahha, my man

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[sage falcon]

I like gambling.. it fun. Lets have a beer!

[white lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-illuviumio-yield-farming-yield-farm-gif-22316428

[calm arrow]

I'm a gamer, not a crypto guy. I look at eth as the in game currency, so 0.5 eth for a good illuvial, 5 eth for top tier etc. I wont attach a $ value to it

[white lotus]

the revolution

[velvet tide]

Lets goooo

[twilit junco]

!welcome 🙂

[tidal garnet]

Welcome!

Wondering where to get started and learn more? The #791148036935516161 section has all the information you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information. Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date: 📣announcements #🚰〕leaks #✍〕rules

[calm arrow]

On the back of this, you see the same in axie. People value their axies in ETH and ignore the $ value. The eth value stayed pretty constant

[white lotus]

https://medium.com/illuvium

[past jay]

But surely you will when you come to have to convert your dollars into eth

[calm arrow]

Look at axie, people value in eth and the eth values stayed fairly constant.

$ values went mad because eth values didn't change, so we have examples of how gamers think right there

They'll see eth as the in game currency and not care on its $ value

[past jay]

It'll be interesting to see the psychology of it either way - plus i'm thinking through a lens of high volatility, which should settle as time goes on

[velvet tide]

yeah will be interesting to see play out

[calm arrow]

I think you over estimate gamers. Some people put tens of thousands of $$$ into crappy mobile games and never expect anything back

[hollow drum]

Welcome to Illuvium the DAO that will take over the gaming universe

[next surge]

[twilit junco]

Welcome to Illuvium the DAO which gaming universe will take over the world

Fixed that for you 😆

[hollow drum]

haha

thanks buddy

[twilit junco]

$150.4 - next milestone reached

https://tenor.com/view/guitar-kangaroo-roo-autobattler-rpg-gif-22412583

[velvet tide]

damn nice

[humble wave]

150 damn it's nice to see it

Haha together 😂

[hollow drum]

Congrats on 150 everyone

[humble wave]

Let the GIFs flow 😂

[velvet tide]

lets goo boys

[hollow drum]

My GIFs arent loading

Lmao

[real tiger]

when 0 extra?

1500

[hollow drum]

We are missing a 0

[sweet zodiac]

Hiya! Newbie here. How can I buy ILV? I am from the Philippines

[hollow drum]

there seems to be a glitch

[humble wave]

Haha. Next stop (actually there is no stop, but for the sake of round numbers) 160 😁

[hollow drum]

ILV should be 1500

[hollow drum]

Do you have a metamask? and have you swapped on Sushiswap

[humble wave]

You can buy from Sushiswap. Check #❓〕faq

[sweet zodiac]

Oh I see. Thanks guys!

Will read FAQ. I just got excited

[hollow drum]

No worries

let us know if you have questions

welcome!

[humble wave]

Any questions, direct them here

[velvet tide]

1500 would be crazy

[hollow drum]

is it tho?

if AXS can hit 50

[velvet tide]

no its realistic

imo

[humble wave]

The dust in the wollet would mean hundreds of $ 😂

[hollow drum]

Ya

[sweet zodiac]

Man I love this discord. 10000x better than Axie's

[velvet tide]

i just would be soo filthy rich lol

[velvet tide]

hahaha yes

[hollow drum]

Check out #🚰〕leaks

we will be 100000X better than Axie haha

not even comparing the right universe

completely different plans here

[livid marten]

600 with half of ilv supply in circulation would be axs market cap rn which would be a good ways past launch so that seems like a good target for now imo

[humble wave]

Being rich hasn't started yet. I'm waiting for a new tab in the website under the name of REVENUE CLAIM or so 😁

[hollow drum]

Yup

[velvet tide]

hahaha, yeah claim my lmabo every week

[hollow drum]

revenue dist is why I am here

claiming lambos

[humble wave]

What if we get to AXIE MC without a game? 😁

[hollow drum]

For sure

1500 is my 2 year target

NFA

[tame solar]

Yeah wade got his 3 islands he wants to buy lined up

[humble wave]

150, 1500, 15000 won't matter if you get $50 ILV per token imo. You'll never be selling your staked ILV

[hollow drum]

Maybe

[twilit junco]

We could see much higher numbers at least in Q1 2022 when both mini-game and main-game are out but circulating supply still capped around 650k.

[hollow drum]

only if u are coming with me 😉

[real tiger]

if we keep this up till eoy

lambo time

[hollow drum]

Whales like Molten are jumping for joy

[humble wave]

With only your Rev you can buy more than one I guess 😁

[hollow drum]

these milestones are great for community morale

[velvet tide]

50$ per token would be soooo nice

[hollow drum]

especially when crypto is in a mini bear market

[humble wave]

I'm telling you. I would never touch my stake. Never EVER EVER EVEEEEEER

[hollow drum]

"there is always a bull market somewhere"

[livid marten]

i still find myself thinking if high rarity iluvials had a one time option to mint a physical card and or figure that would be really cool and get a different group of people interested in the game as far as collectors go.

[hollow drum]

if you are here

you have made it

[real tiger]

heehhe

[hollow drum]

Idk I still think you need to create a following in the virtual world first

[velvet tide]

Yeah me too

[hollow drum]

physical->virtual wont work as well

[livid marten]

technically this would be virtual->physical but yea its a thought tho.

[humble wave]

If you hold only 100 ILV with the rev of 50 per token it'll be $5k lol

[hollow drum]

Ya for sure, its just a timing thing

[hollow drum]

Bet

thats where im at

started with 100ILV

🙂

[humble wave]

Oh brother we'll get old and will still be here 😁

[livid marten]

with Impermant loss i keep getting farther away from 100

[hollow drum]

im 60 grinding defi

lmaoo

[livid marten]

thankfully lp fees will get me there soon enough with high trading volume

[humble wave]

Rewards and RevDis will get u there eventually

[hollow drum]

how do these work?

[livid marten]

another thing to consider in the future when we hopefully see a billion+ dollar trading day

[hollow drum]

0.25%?

[livid marten]

@hollow drum just standard .25% fee going to liquidity providers yea

[hollow drum]

cool

when do you claim that? when you withdraw from pool?

[livid marten]

i can never remember but i think that's how it works

[twilit junco]

Man, Malta looks more and more appealing to me. Also, English as official language which is something I'd like so damn much. I might become an Islander after all if I don't find major issues with taxes or so 😄

[hollow drum]

makes sense

thanks g

[humble wave]

Where’s Malta again? 🤔 not good with geography

[twilit junco]

South of Italy, East of Tunisia but also still part of the EU.

[velvet tide]

Malta is pretty expensive and not that easy to understand

[humble wave]

Hmmm. Interesting. But I still think Netherlands is best

[velvet tide]

They have good crypto tax regulations?

[humble wave]

Apparently no tax on Crypto. @twilit junco and @real tiger know better

[twilit junco]

You don't need to speak Maltese. English is Official Language as well. It's a bit more expensive than f.x Berlin which I always take as reference (would love to go back there, but not with german crypto taxes), yes. But not in a way that will be any issue for me if ILV RevDis performs.

[real tiger]

i pay 0 tax

only weath tax which is 1.8%

[humble wave]

There you go @velvet tide

[velvet tide]

in nether;ands?

[real tiger]

yes

[velvet tide]

damn nice

[twilit junco]

No Taxes is not correct. Crypto Assets fall under Box 3 in the Netherlands which is a kind of Wealth Tax. You pay like 1-2% of what you have in $ value on 1.1 of every year

[velvet tide]

is there a size limit?

[real tiger]

wealth tax is not on the crypto gains tho, if u have less then x amount of cash

u dont pay it

[humble wave]

You have where? In bank? Or you MM is also considered wealth?

[real tiger]

2022 the rule is 400k+ wealth

u pay wealth tax

[velvet tide]

ok

[humble wave]

Ah so literally you pay tax on the cash you hold (+$400k) not the coins in your MM or stakes assets

[hollow drum]

Thats sick

[twilit junco]

Owning Crypto falls - to my understanding - into what you own in wealth, yes. Not just your FIAT on bank accounts. But only the amount on January 1st of every year is relevant. If you have $100k in year 1. Then you make like ridiculous gains you don't pay tax on those gains. Just wealth tax based on what you have the next January 1st

[humble wave]

Yeah. I don't pay crypto tax here either, but for a European country like that it's amazing. Ill join u there too lol

[humble wave]

How can they know you hold how much outside your bank on Jan 1st? (like staked assets and other coins you have in your DeFi wallet)

[red crater]

https://gfycat.com/frailtastyacouchi

[brazen bobcat]

Did they announce it is 400k next year? Last time I heard it was 50k if living alone and 100k if living together (the percentage is around 1 to 2 % but grows as it becomes more)

[twilit junco]

"How can they know" is not something I care about. That would apply for every country you possibly could live in. If you want to break tax laws then that is not country relevant. Personally, I'm interested in finding the right spot as my homebase when properly following the law 🙂

[humble wave]

For the Netherlands?

[humble wave]

Of course. Legality is why we are going through facts now. You'll always have let's say 500 ILV (lets say ILV is +$1k) staked every year. Does that fall into category of tax wealth even if you are in the Netherlands?

[twilit junco]

The way I understood it, the value of your staked ILV on the 1st of January each year would be relevant for the wealth tax in the Netherlands. But I'm not a financial advisor 🙂 Even if that is the case though, if all you legally have to pay is like 1.8% based upon your total wealth...that's pretty ok I'd say 😄

[humble wave]

Yeah sure, but I'm curious to get to the bottom of it. How would they know you have 500 ILV staked? Because I don't think even Eth Scan shows your staked assets. Do they really dig deep to find out? 😁

[twilit junco]

Well, you would have to report the value of your ILV holdings of course. If you don't, sure they MIGHT never find out. That's exactly the kind of breaking tax laws that I referred to earlier. You could argue like this everywhere.

[velvet tide]

Its definitely better than germany lol

super easy to calculate also

[humble wave]

Interest. You go to the tax office and literally report yourself holding ILV. 🤔 if that's the law, so be it I guess, right? But way better than Germany

[humble wave]

U read my mind 😉

[twilit junco]

Well, that's obviously the case in every country you pay taxes on crypto for. They don't know your wallet

[velvet tide]

hehe

[twilit junco]

I've been looking for that as well right now. Couldn't find anything. Only 50k as a single for the tax free limit 🙂 But maybe @real tiger can share a link or something to the info about 400k

[humble wave]

Good thing they don't have taxes on Crypto here lol. What a hassle

[velvet tide]

Thats the best

[humble wave]

Hopefully they won't mimic what other countries do lol

[real tiger]

was in an article from the goverment, if i see it again il lsend it

[velvet tide]

yeah, that would suck

[white lotus]

walks away for 5 minutes

https://tenor.com/view/alixxa-scroll-alixxa-plays-gif-15526590

[velvet tide]

haha lol, community growing

[hollow drum]

We do grow

[weary viper]

Yooooo

[tough knoll]

If ilv gets same valuation 11 billion FDV each ilv would be 1100

As people lock their tokens we could reach even higher

[stark lava]

Can someone please market sell like $4m ILV so I can buy more cheaper

[tough knoll]

Only if btc goes to 25k

[stark lava]

Erm this is a less appealing offer 😛

[tough knoll]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/khGU7uOftrfDUX1tV-mC-D08WjPvaN7SFCghJATmQWQ/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/779984287709659166/868528081718087680/unknown.png

If we break

🌙

[real tiger]

eth is about to break out

back to 3k asap i hope

[tough knoll]

If not grim

[real tiger]

maybe a retest of support

and then up again

[noble sand]

@harsh plaza hey bit of a noob question but does Koinly recognise staking rewards earned from the Illuvium website? Fellow Aussie here .

[twilit talon]

🤗 I'm going to get you to Portugal 🤣

[twilit junco]

Hehe 😄 Still got a few months to decide. Hopefully RevDis and $ILV price is awesome enough to quit and move Q1 already, but we'll see. Until then, I'll keep looking 😄 Dubai, Enschede in the Netherlands and Malta are my options currently but I'll look into Portugal one more time.

[thorn plover]

What's up? Miss anything in the last 5-6 hours? :P

[twilit junco]

$150 new ATH 🙂

[next surge]

Adequate proof that the game works well and is fun should moon us

The beta

[thorn plover]

That's pretty sweet but now I need it to come back to $90 just for a quick min or 2. Then it can go back

[real tiger]

when shall we hit 200

[twilit talon]

It's crazy, I have been watching the buys/sales on Dextools since I started here with everyone and the amount of bots that are there now is 🤪

[velvet tide]

the way we are movin in 2 days 😄

[lofty knoll]

Sooooooooon

[sage falcon]

Alright so when we getting that $30 entry again?

[velvet tide]

hahaha

good luck