💬〕general

[elfin coral]

my main thing would be making enough of the lowest tier lands that they cost less than 0.5 eth each

so "everyone" can play if they want

[hollow drum]

Agreed

[elfin coral]

obviously not everyone, but most people could afford that if they really wanted it

[earnest drift]

i still reckon ppl who stake have first dibs on primo land

[elfin coral]

how do you do first dibs and also a fair price

[earnest drift]

get a snapshot

raffle

like Alice

set a floor price.

[elfin coral]

youre just asking for free money...

[hollow drum]

No free lunch

I will fight hard against it

[elfin coral]

you want to buy something below market value

[earnest drift]

Maybe primo land for 1 ETH or 2.

[earnest drift]

1 eth or 2 aint cheap

[hollow drum]

Its AMAZING

[hollow drum]

yes it is

[earnest drift]

so u think primo land should be 100 ETH

[hollow drum]

Depends

we dont have enough info

I dont think we should talk price

[elfin coral]

dennis you are basically asking them to sell you something way below market value, why would this be good for anyone other than you (and others that get in)

[hollow drum]

until its approved

[earnest drift]

I dont want below price for god sake

[elfin coral]

but you do, otherwise you can just buy in an auction and we dont need a first dibs system

[earnest drift]

Im saying every time i went for land on other games or NFT they get sold out to either bots or group of individual who dont care about the game but are flippers

[hollow drum]

Which is in the interest of the DAO

realistically

[earnest drift]

maybe i should of worded it better

[hollow drum]

(not bots)

[elfin coral]

an auction system has no bots

[earnest drift]

yes there is

[elfin coral]

just people who wanna pay the most for each piece

[tame solar]

I think if the game is good at generating revdivs we shouldnt care too much about sale

[earnest drift]

bot just dont click last second they do other functions

anyways

look I aired out my issue. We wait now for what happens.

[elfin coral]

bots cant compete in a real auction unless they are spending the most $

[hollow drum]

Agreed

[tame solar]

you know how Raydium have those pools for ppl who hold Ray for certain amount of period can be in a certain pool

[elfin coral]

other land sales that got ruined by bots is cause they had a fixed price

[tame solar]

that might good for like mid-tier land sale

[hollow drum]

At the end of the day

[earnest drift]

I will wait for more info now. We are months away from the land sale

[elfin coral]

what happened with axie?

[hollow drum]

Should we move this to game-ideas?

[earnest drift]

yeah

probably better

we flooded this channel

[timber ore]

i sleep so good at night

knowing my ILV is staked

that even if it goes to 0 or 1k

theres nothing i can do about it

😄

[plain delta]

What does first dibs mean.

[tame solar]

like calling shotgun

[earnest drift]

like i said. should of worded it better.

[plain delta]

Let’s say you are staked. And let’s say this happens.

The ETH from that sale goes to the vault. It then is used to purchase ILV. You can then claim that your portion.

[near pier]

https://twitter.com/brianltester/status/1418346457552367618?s=21

Brian Tester (@BrianLTester)

@illuviumio Wait.....Illuvian always trashes Axie. Wen feud end?

Twitter · Jul 22, 2021, 11:05 PM

Guys I would suggest explaining to this guy that an Axie pool helps them not feuds with them

[hollow drum]

RAID

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-parks-and-recreation-chris-pratt-amused-woah-gif-7644619

[tame solar]

is the land sale gonna even be that impressive tho. I would be hoping revdiv from people playing the land mini game would be even more eventaully

[plain delta]

I’m just asking for clarification. One thing about me is i am very literal. It pisses people off sometimes but I’m just trying to clarify. I’m not arguing.

[plain delta]

Lmao I know the phrase. I’m asking what it means specifically here.

[plain delta]

Well it doesn’t matter. That’s the point. If land sale isn’t impressive it means everyone got it for cheap. If it is huge then it means that the stakers got a big reward. It is a win-win.

[earnest drift]

All good. I didnt take offence.

[elfin coral]

win win baby

[tame solar]

I'm listening to a podcast about gaming + gambling and everyone thinks ppl dont get taxed on crypto

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-win-win-michael-scott-steve-carell-winner-gif-17966862

[thorn plover]

It looks really fun!
I'm very excited to build my industrial complex!!!!!
I live building and rss management!

[thorn plover]

We raiding? Lol

[hollow drum]

Twitter yes

that axie guy

tell him whats up and that AXS flashpool benefits holders of both ILV and AXS. We are not at war, we are one.

[near pier]

https://twitter.com/brianltester/status/1418346457552367618?s=21

Brian Tester (@BrianLTester)

@illuviumio Wait.....Illuvian always trashes Axie. Wen feud end?

Twitter · Jul 22, 2021, 11:05 PM

[inner topaz]

https://twitter.com/immutable/status/1415834607807696896?s=21

Immutable (@Immutable)

Who’s building on Immutable X? 🙌

What project are you most excited about? 👇

Likes

468

Twitter · Jul 16, 2021, 12:44 AM

We need to let it rain in the comments

[lean ruin]

Is this game out yet?

[rain thorn]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Numerous partnerships with influencers throughout the
  next months
• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Mystery Auction shortly coming soon
• Closed beta this summer
• Open Beta / launch in late Q4
• Tier 1 Centralized Exchange listings imminent, date
  unknown.

[rain thorn]

@lean ruin

[lean ruin]

Sweet thank you!

[lofty knoll]

Only me.

Thats already in

[idle terrace]

Initial thought is: we gettin greedy out here 🤔

I’ll read it 10 more times for final thought lol

[lofty knoll]

You learn after a while. In the beginning I always thought he was mad at me

Now I say something and he is like : cause fuck you thats why. Thats his translation for : I love you Rah

[white lotus]

rah knows the ancient language of illuvispeak

[idle terrace]

Iiterally perfect tokenomics, landsale adds to that (didn’t think it was possible). Still trying to figure out if I’m an investor and/or player tho…

[elfin coral]

having investor/players in one will be what makes it a great game

incentives truely aligned

[lofty knoll]

Yep agree

Hype and fomo

[thorn plover]

I will be both 💯

[wild zinc]

yay

proposal has been passed

fucking awesome

[lofty knoll]

Yep

[harsh plaza]

Yea i think i'll be a hybrid, at least when it first comes out. Might be too hard of a game for my peanut brain. I usually like FPS games

[lofty knoll]

And we at 110

Good day

[tropic sedge]

Hi guys 🙂 freshly landed

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-fallon-welcome-welcome-back-greet-hello-gif-4479960

[wild zinc]

AXS should bring us tonns of players

[hollow drum]

100K by end of August

lookout

[wild zinc]

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sesame-street-dancing-dance-gif-17689305

[lofty knoll]

Almost 110

https://tenor.com/view/guitar-kangaroo-roo-autobattler-rpg-gif-22412583

[hollow drum]

https://gfycat.com/perfumedaridchameleon

put this in governance by accident

whoops

[earnest drift]

hope so

hahaha

[tame solar]

Don’t tell @wild zinc about the mini game GDD

[lavish cape]

I can imagine how this game would blowup after closed beta is announced

[tame solar]

#📣〕announcements

[thorn plover]

When would the axs pool launch again?
Thinking I should purchase tokens beforehand 😅

[elfin coral]

buying a horse to get more Porsche shares

[hollow drum]

https://gfycat.com/perfumedaridchameleon

[tame solar]

Buying something when it hits its ATH doesn’t sound too bad

[hollow drum]

Sounds great

Please go in the AXS pool and not the ILV single asset pool

[near pier]

Ath high is relative though

If you look into the future

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-short-smell-money-smell-money-gif-21062780

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-amazed-explosion-space-omg-gif-10279314

[hollow drum]

Its still ATH

psychologically

it plays a big factor

[idle terrace]

I’m waiting for the axs pool to hit 2% lmao. Where else would they go

[hollow drum]

NO WHERE

lmao

great calcs

[idle terrace]

🤨

[lavish cape]

Because there are no gameplay clips released yet.

[olive zinc]

Have they said how much the characters would cost, or released any images?

[tame solar]

Characters ?

[raw kindle]

About council can I vote with staked ILV as well?

[idle terrace]

Financial advice: buy crypto games. When Jim Cramer mentions it. Sell.

[lavish cape]

its free to play

think of pokemon. you capture illuvials

[olive zinc]

Ah ok, so we don't need to buy a chracter to start. That's interesting.

[timber ore]

Until there is gameplay vids, etc besides character leaks and art, i'd say we are valued quite nice right now.

[olive zinc]

Are the NFTs on OpenSeas from the game?

[timber ore]

People are 5-7 figures invested here on basically the belief the team will produce

i'd say thats pretty good value right now

[timber ore]

Some of the OS NFTs are for skins/emotes ingame

[olive zinc]

I wish I'd stumbled on this 3 weeks ago when ILV was $35. I'm pretty invested in another game, but cautious to jump in here at over $100 when it was just $30

[timber ore]

Some other ones are just pure NFTs

[idle terrace]

What game?

[olive zinc]

Blankos

[idle terrace]

Aw yeh. Love that game lol

[olive zinc]

I have around 100 of their NFTs. But may sell some after watchiungt this a bit.

Just wish they had not triple in the last 2 weeks, lol.

[near pier]

Hindsight 20/20 just don’t be saying the same when it’s 1000per Ilv lol

[idle terrace]

Blankos is the shit, usd to buy assets that can be moved to the blockchain. Nft gaming 101

[olive zinc]

Well, that's a big IF.

[hollow drum]

I have faced you before haha!

[near pier]

That’s what ppl were saying at 28$ lol

[lavish cape]

You'll say this again when it's $300 😆

[hollow drum]

Facts

[olive zinc]

lol

[hollow drum]

ppl in here still waiting for 15$

....

[olive zinc]

We'll see...

[hollow drum]

Tbh if you dont want to buy the token, best saving ETH for game

[tribal tartan]

u just have to trust sometimes. and jump

[near pier]

Don’t worry I screencapped 😉

[olive zinc]

lol

[hollow drum]

Its ok he will do 1 hour more of DD, see the mini game, yield and artwork

and change his mind

😉

[idle terrace]

My ILV pool has overtaken my LP pool in networth 🥳

[thorn plover]

I meant buy more ILV
Because it's going to be so hot 🔥

[hollow drum]

WOOO

[tame solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796570107856945183/864013837032226877/jeffUI.mp4

[olive zinc]

I'll be around now... this type of game is more up my alley. I was a GM for Ultima Online and hooked since.

[slate tinsel]

look at market cap though

[thorn plover]

Always buy more ILV.
Wouldn't dream of buying axs :P
Ew

[hollow drum]

I have 9 more stars to get Poppy in blankos, think I can do it? I think I can if I do all my dailys

[lofty knoll]

Yes

[lofty knoll]

Anything below 1000$ is fud

[olive zinc]

In the last 3 weeks game tokens have went nuts. My DeFi Pet up 7X, Crypto Blades up 60X in the last 3 weeks./

[lofty knoll]

ILV only.

[olive zinc]

Gosh yes... you have a week+ so you have potential 60+ stars. (I have 3 poppies, lol)

[lavish cape]

will probably pop soon

[earnest drift]

Afternoon all

[arctic hazel]

Haven't been in the discord for a while. Any big news of late?

[olive zinc]

I don't know if I want to get in and try to squeeze some out, or sit back and wait for the fall lol.

[lavish cape]

#📣〕announcements

[hollow drum]

Lets gooo

[arctic hazel]

Should I be looking to buy some ILV?

[hollow drum]

Up to you

take one look at #🚰〕leaks and the tokenomics

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-illuviumio-yield-farming-yield-farm-gif-22324807

[vital lynx]

yeap, it doesn't take a genius to see real value

[timid hare]

Hi

[plain delta]

To be fair in THAT particular case I was saying 'because fuck you' to the hypothetical person in the conversation. Not you specifically. But if I did say it to you, it would mean lots of love for sure.

[timid hare]

Wyd

@plain delta yo

[plain delta]

Hello ser / madam

[timid hare]

Can you describe illuvium

[plain delta]

Yes.

[timid hare]

And what’s it’s about

You there

[hollow drum]

Did u read the whitepaper? or nah

#🔗〕helpful-links

[timid hare]

Ok

Thxs

[plain delta]

There's lot of info.

[hollow drum]

If you check out #🚰〕leaks might get a sense of the art and lore too

:)))

[rain thorn]

I can't, Every word I say will only detract from the pure value ♥️

[karmic lichen]

Nice to come here and see ILV higher than yesterday (from my perspective)

[near pier]

We just gettin started friend

[karmic lichen]

also our member count going up also

good things ahead

[hollow drum]

https://gfycat.com/scalyzigzagazurevasesponge

[white lotus]

I fully believe Aaron can describe Illuvium extremely well! Who agrees?

lord have mercy

lol

110

[thorn plover]

Night everyone ❤️

[lofty knoll]

Well he answered the question

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[white lotus]

i know he did

🙂

I am thankful for the linguistic talents of the team, extremely rare that they mince words

[dense light]

hi guys

can i ask u when launch ?

of illivium game

[arctic hazel]

Wow character leaks look amazing

[tidal garnet]

• Numerous partnerships with influencers throughout the
  next months
• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Mystery Auction shortly coming soon
• Closed beta this summer
• Open Beta / launch in late Q4
• Tier 1 Centralized Exchange listings imminent, date
  unknown.

[arctic hazel]

I'll have to read up about the tokenomics

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-fallon-welcome-welcome-back-greet-hello-gif-4479960

[dense light]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

🚫 nostress, you can't use that.

[dense light]

thx

[white lotus]

https://docs.illuvium.io/

[earnest drift]

Looks good

Excited for this

Going to claim my sILV before launch

[arctic hazel]

Will this game have land sales?

[earnest drift]

Hahahaha

[earnest drift]

Yes

[arctic hazel]

Oh wow interesting

Is there a medium article's on those details or are they to come?

[turbid moth]

I’m so excited for this game

My twitch community is going to love this.. been growing a ton from crypto based games… this is gonna pop off

[hollow drum]

How many subs?

[wild zinc]

6.3k

[hollow drum]

team might be interested in working with you down the road if you put something in marketing ideas

decent size and will likely grow as blockchain gaming grows

We breaking 34K tonight?

https://tenor.com/view/dance-kid-club-gif-9152583

[earnest drift]

I got a ton of subs too

Actually not alot

Lol

Yeah

Almost 34k

[hollow drum]

Some is better than none

[earnest drift]

True

Going thru the article again

[hollow drum]

I dont even have a channel so you are ahead of me

guess I am a boomer

https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-the-office-old-man-michael-scott-gif-15530652

[tame solar]

Followers not subs

[rancid adder]

Land sale will come later, but you can take a lot at the pinned message in #🎮〕illuvium-zero you'll find more details about the utility of these lands.

[hollow drum]

Check pinned messages for link to GDD

[rancid adder]

Thanks for the precision 🙂

[hollow drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/760344898200666112/857471213513605140/867823747989504000

or here haha

I want everyone to read @plain delta's amazing work! this team is working their asses off for us.

https://tenor.com/view/obama-mic-drop-largar-o-microfone-gif-7413222

[rancid adder]

Yep, this is truly amazing work! I'm on a 24/24h hype since the staking launched.

It's just gonna get even better with the gameplay video and private beta to come.

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-tom-cat-kitty-tom-and-jerry-gif-5428221

[compact sable]

@everybody

[hollow drum]

whats up

[tame hill]

Can we see other players in the open-world RPG? I.e. is there an MMO aspect?

[hollow drum]

Should be I believe

not sure about the mini-game

[tame hill]

Do you have a source for the first part of your answer?

[near pier]

So guys… guesss what

[hollow drum]

I cant remember who talked about it, someone from the team can confirm if I am right tho

[hollow drum]

Whattt

[near pier]

Axie just hit 10b FDV…. And ppl saying we are high at 1.1b FDV

[hollow drum]

........

WOW

[vital lynx]

Get a loan buy more ILV

[slate tinsel]

Axie bubble has to pop soon you’d think

[near pier]

Whether it does or it doesn’t ppl are using the system, and ours is 10fold better

[hollow drum]

No clue

Market can be irrational for a while

https://gfycat.com/perfumedaridchameleon

All I know is

the higher AXS goes

the better for ILV

:))))

Especially considering the Flashpool

[elfin coral]

axie at 8b no?

[near pier]

Guess you right lol

Someone just told me 10b figured he was right Avid axs holder haha

Still

My point valid

[elfin coral]

maybe they can just make 25% more supply and get to 10b

[near pier]

Sounds like something they would do

[hollow drum]

I could see it

They are gonna ban you indirectly for fud

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-burning-burn-hell-red-gif-4977777

[elfin coral]

Ha I got banned from curve discord for shitting on them in another discord

[hollow drum]

No way lmao

I cant speak in the Axie discord idk how to verify myself

maybe I am muted

LMAO

[near pier]

I tried too

Can’t though

[hollow drum]

Interesting....

https://tenor.com/view/blink-stare-hmm-ok-meh-gif-15731664

[near pier]

I shilled the axs flash pool in a few channels I could chat in

But too many ppl

Disappeared instantly

[hollow drum]

they are so dumb (pls dont ban me axie)

[glossy lake]

Hello guys i want to buy ILV are there tutorials for beginners

[hollow drum]

Have you ever swapped on Sushiswap and do you have a Metamask wallet?

[karmic lichen]

First google how to setup a Metamask wallet @glossy lake

[glossy lake]

I have metamask

[hollow drum]

Off to a great start

[glossy lake]

Yes i already have balance there i want to buy ILV

[hollow drum]

https://illuvium.io/

[karmic lichen]

If you have eth there, go to sushi swap

[hollow drum]

through the invest tab

go to Sushi

[glossy lake]

Cant find ILV token sushi

[karmic lichen]

it's there

you need to search for it maybe

[glossy lake]

Wait ill send screencap

[karmic lichen]

when you go to swaps

[hollow drum]

Should look like this

you can also take the contract from coingecko

on the right side

and paste it into the token address

[karmic lichen]

@glossy lake check above

[glossy lake]

Ohh ok

[hollow drum]

try pasting the address, it should come up with a logo

let us know if u have trouble

[hollow drum]

lets take this to #814313779696238642

[static patrol]

The most bullish thing, price wise, (let alone the scores of other bullish aspects) is that every single newly released token is locked for 12 months.
The sell pressure isn't going to be there. It's so different to your average yield farming that gets dumped constantly. When the fomo storm begins it will be wild.

[sage falcon]

Some exchange from top 10 and we can take some capital Axs . Can we except listing q3 ?

[glossy lake]

Is $100 enough for me to start illuvium?

[vernal vale]

you will be able to start it technically as f2p

unless you mean for investing, in which case sure

[tame hill]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

🚫 Villatrax, you can't use that.

[glossy lake]

Thanks for the fast response guys! Im excited for this

[hollow drum]

I would say if you only have 100$ it might be best to hold it and use it in game, or do a DCA strategy when you can afford to buy tokens when gas is cheap

just my 10 cents

[glossy lake]

Where can i see the graph of ILV market?

[hollow drum]

https://www.dextools.io/app/sushiswap/pair-explorer/0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda

Here, use this until there is centralized exchange data such as binance or coinbase.

[near pier]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Numerous partnerships with influencers throughout the
  next months
• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Mystery Auction shortly coming soon
• Closed beta this summer
• Open Beta / launch in late Q4
• Tier 1 Centralized Exchange listings imminent, date
  unknown.

[humble wave]

Good morning ppl. How’s everyone doing?

[tribal tartan]

excited for the mystery auction!

[glossy lake]

Thank u man u good person. ERC20 right?

[humble wave]

Yep ILV is ETH based therefore is on ERC20

[glossy lake]

Thank u guys!!

[hollow drum]

Gotchu

https://tenor.com/view/family-vindiesel-fastandfurious-gif-5179042

[humble wave]

Any new news? 🙂

[hollow drum]

Nope, just spamming Axie like usual 😉

telling people to come over here and stop sleeping

[calm arrow]

I always forget about the mystery auction... I need more ILV before land sale and mystery auction...

[humble wave]

Haha. Can’t wait to see what mini game and demo will do. I think we’ll have gone up waaaaay higher even before the main game

[humble wave]

I also need a laptop. Why is life so hard?

[hollow drum]

I legit think our mini-game is better than Axie

will be*

[humble wave]

It’s kinda like Top War so I guess many know the basics.

The only thing remaining is buying land. We have to see if we have enough money to buy one and/or if u can buy it with sILV. Lots of things need to be cleared before coming up with a decision

[hollow drum]

Yupe

long time away

but very important

[warm surge]

What will be eta for the minigame?

[vital lynx]

I get why Wade is hyped up abt Illuvium Zero

JESUS

[humble wave]

Idk. I think I need to set some fiat aside for the laptop. I’m Fiat-less and I’m not talking about the car lol

[vital lynx]

Get me some land

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-beginning-to-believe-beginning-to-believe-gif-20824301

[vital lynx]

🧑‍🌾

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-tom-cat-kitty-tom-and-jerry-gif-5428221

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-may-may-the-fourth-gif-21430119

[warm surge]

!eta minigame

[humble wave]

The interesting thing about the mini-game is that’s it’ll be connected to the main one. And that you can make money buy selling fuel and stuff. So the better the land, the more stuff u can sell

[hollow drum]

I love the research + building skins aspect

just appeals to me personally

[humble wave]

It’s on PC right? Forgot to read about tht lol

[warm surge]

What can be build on the land?

[hollow drum]

I think they wanna go Mobile actually

go look at their release plan

[calm arrow]

Yeah, wade checked and linked it in mini game channel for me earlier - it's mobile

[humble wave]

If mobile then even better. I saw app store somewhere. But MacBook also has app-store so i was confused lol

[warm surge]

I will, but just woke up and was already curious about the plans.

[hollow drum]

haha

[real tiger]

Mobile pc and console eventually

Afaik

[humble wave]

For the mini-game? I guess mobile works better really. Its faster

[real tiger]

No thr actual game

[humble wave]

The app is out already?

[hollow drum]

Goodnight everyone, pleasure talking to you.

[near pier]

Mini game is planned as mobile

[real tiger]

Mini mobile is fine

[humble wave]

Oh that ofc

[calm arrow]

No no, just the section from the GDD saying their intentions

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-the-mandalorian-cute-night-gif-16054107

[calm arrow]

Thanks for your help Wade

[humble wave]

Ah. Yeah i read it too. Thx for confirming. Now….how much $ do we need lol thats the question 😁

[humble wave]

Night bro. Sweet dreams

[near pier]

All of it

I don’t have enough lol

[humble wave]

1. Need a laptop
2. Need land
3. The mystery sale

I should be printing money

[calm arrow]

You've staked ILV, so you literally are

[warm surge]

You are by staking 😉

Lol

[humble wave]

Yes that is if you can buy land with sILV. And I cannot buy laptop with sILV anyhow lol 😂

[calm arrow]

Yet...

[warm surge]

Just give the shop some land instead

[humble wave]

Like going to the market “hey what’s your coolest laptop? I wanna pay sILV” 😂

[warm surge]

They will understand

[calm arrow]

Ready Player One style

[humble wave]

If I buy land immediately not gonna part with it even if its Tier 1

[warm surge]

Introduce them to ILV

[humble wave]

Here where I’m living is be surprised to see people know how to use crypto wallets lol sILV, i don’t think so

[warm surge]

They must be interested in games, after all they are working in a computer store

[humble wave]

I’ve been teaching ILV and it’s tokenomics to my students 😎

[calm arrow]

Sure, but we've got whole countries taking on btc as a currency now, so things are changing

[vital lynx]

Hopefully some of them can see the light

[humble wave]

Yeah. We’ll have to see what happens. If the minigame is on Mobile and it’s released sooner and we get Rev Share, i won’t have to do anything anymore. 😉

[humble wave]

When I did I realized I should start what crypto is what u can do with it. I realized i cannot just jump to ILV section.

[vital lynx]

that's the advanced section 😎

[humble wave]

Yeah explaining the tokenomics requires previous knowledge of crypto in general.

[warm surge]

It takes years for many people to understand

[golden turret]

got really interested in illuvium until it said "passive gameplay" D: Can someone enlighten me on how much skill really will be involved 🤔

[warm surge]

Even I am learning every day in crypto with all the new things coming up

It is evolving fast

[humble wave]

I don’t think you need a set of skill to do that. Passive there means it’ll be working in the background without u being there so u don’t have to be online all the time if I understood it correctly

[golden turret]

Oof. Yeah. So pvp will be a bit passive :0 that's kindof a dealbreaker for me, respectfully, imo.

[warm surge]

got really interested in illuvium until it said "passive gameplay" D: Can someone enlighten me on how much skill really will be involved 🤔
@golden turret Think about a checks game, so much brain skills are involved for all the possible combinations that you can make!

[humble wave]

Well passive gameplay was about Illuvium:Zero (the mini-game) for the main game, it’s auto battler and you’ll get passive income and you’ll be active not passive through both games. Lot’s of Passive but in different formats if that’s what your asking.

[harsh plaza]

PvP won't be passive gameplay

[velvet tide]

Damn, what the hell is going on here

Everybody hyped for Minigame?

[harsh plaza]

yea you read the pdf?

coz i haven't :p
not fully anyway

[humble wave]

Shouldn’t we be? 😁 starting the journey, receiving Revenue, building up skins and researching Illuvials while making money in the market and the fact it’s on mobile. Exciting right?

@velvet tide

[harsh plaza]

I'm super excited for this land sale though, gonna sell my kidney for a plot

[humble wave]

Let’s see if whales scoop lots of them. There’s only 10 of Tier 5 😁 can u get 1? 😉

[harsh plaza]

Haven't read the .pdf enough to know wtf you're talking about 😅
I'll read it in full now

[humble wave]

Enjoy reading bro 😎

[red crater]

the Clix NFTs are being distributed

just checked

[humble wave]

I never win anything 😢

[fast lantern]

Quick Question, I read IIP-6. Only 4 people voted yes, and the proposal was passed, did I read that right?

[elfin coral]

4 of 5

Its council only

[fast lantern]

ah, alright. got it.

[harsh plaza]

Tier 3 seems better than tier 4 🤔

[humble wave]

Maybe, but the higher the Tier, the higher the value. Look at the availability

[harsh plaza]

Yea i understand that but i would be buying for revenue, so good chance i could afford 2 tier 3's to 1 tier 4. I'm looking at that perspective.
Defs won't be able to get a 5, and probably not even a 4 haha

[plain shale]

Remember Aaron said these numbers are just random numbers that fits the distribution he had in mind. There could be more or less when the details are worked out

[humble wave]

Ofc. But the basic suggests that. We’ll have to see a lot other things

[humble wave]

Good plan. First let’s see how much they cost and what currency u can use.

[harsh plaza]

Hope there's more because i feel like it's going to be a popular minigame

[plain shale]

Agreed! I’m super excited for the minigame, and it seems like the rest of the community is as well 😁

[harsh plaza]

I'll trust them with the numbers they delegate because i wouldn't have a clue what would work and what wouldn't 🤣

[humble wave]

Foe the people in crypto definitely. You have no idea how popular other online games alike are but none are crypto based. And the fact that the game is connected to the main one makes it a MUST to play

[plain shale]

It’s the first time I’ve actually thought about land being a thing I want to buy!

[humble wave]

My first land(s) too. Keeping my hopes high to buy more than one lol

[plain shale]

I’m the same haha

[harsh plaza]

We're all land owner virgins 😄

[plain shale]

Hoping the sale will be later in the development process so I have time to accumulate eth

[humble wave]

Well I’ve never owned anything beside my phone and computer that are under my name. So….it’s a first

[past flume]

What’s this land stuff we talking about

🤨

[plain shale]

The minigame GDD

[humble wave]

Mini-game? Haven’t u read the GDD?

[past flume]

I kinda read and saw

[vernal vale]

i'm a big fan of how the team is adamant on making land with a use case

[past flume]

But been too busy

[vernal vale]

rather than selling it and adding a TBD on it

[plain shale]

Same! The other games I’ve seen land released in sort of seemed like just a money-grab

[past flume]

When is the mini games releasing

[twilit junco]

While it is great for you to have spotted/understood that. Personally, I think the most bullish aspect price wise is actually the fact that revenue share is paid out in $ILV, meaning that the vault on a constant basis is buying $ILV and thus keeps an imense buying pressure on the token even as a result from people only spending ETH in-game and possibly not even owning any $ILV themselves 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-cup-good-morning-cute-puppy-yawn-gif-14168332

[humble wave]

I like it when you come with a bang and then say good morning 😁

[twilit junco]

$112 - nice 😄 Let's see that grow further and then break ATH with gameplay footage or something hope

[harsh plaza]

Morning gorgeous 😄

[real tiger]

Axie 1.7b almost lel

X25 for us tonthat cap

[humble wave]

Well someone dropped nearly 1k ILV and the price hardly moved. We r becoming dump-resistent

[past flume]

2k make it for the boat party

[red crater]

x25

my gawd

[past flume]

1k is just too easy to achieve

[red crater]

still getting the ILV tattoo at 500$ boyzzz

car license plate at 250$

lets goo

[past flume]

That’s too generous

[humble wave]

Send your Porsche back. U need a Rolls Royce

[twilit junco]

An autobattler that requires you to incorparate deckbuilding aspects, positioning, psychology, synergies and more is not passive in my opinion 🙂 The actual fight might be yes, but that's like saying a card game like Magic or Hearthstone would be passive 🙂

[plain shale]

I’m so excited for EOY.. I haven’t seen any gameplay yet, but the quality of the art and the thoroughness of all documents released just gives an overall faith in Illuvium

[real tiger]

Nah fuck rolls royce haha

[harsh plaza]

Hmm, just worked out my daily ilv rewards, so tempted to pour more in, just seeing this yeild!

[past flume]

Do it man

[past flume]

The market is just shit

[vernal vale]

ur welcome, i bought the dip

[humble wave]

A wraith would be nice though if speed is not what your after. Or a Bentley Continental maybe?

[vernal vale]

😋

[twilit junco]

This! What needs to be approved now is the high-level part of the proposed mini-game. If that goes through and a new team starts working on it, then many things will change compared to the GDD in it's current state, including plot numbers for sure.

[vernal vale]

got a few big investor friends who are lurking on the edge here

[harsh plaza]

We're starting to show some strength now. another couple of weeks if we don't put in a lower low, it's uponly!

[red crater]

@inner topaz did only 23 people claim their Clix NFT lol?

[real tiger]

The new porsche gt3 is also vnice

[past flume]

Yea. Steve Irwin said here that it’s an easy 10x at 90

[twilit junco]

I'm still going through the entire chat when getting to the computer, so if there is something relevant to comment on while doing that, then that's what I do 🙂

[humble wave]

With that number u can easily by the new Buggatti or a Porsche Carrera GT or even a freaking Rimac lol

[harsh plaza]

Here i am just wanting the new LC 300 when it comes out haha

[past flume]

Give it to some people who would appreciate it 😣

[humble wave]

Well, some cars will still be dream cars, but not for all here 😁

[twilit junco]

There is a tiny bit of gameplay in here (remember that we'll have a cinematic autobattler, so many people don't get that there is actual gameplay footage here as well :)): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjLA7NJA-74

An actual gameplay demo video will hopefully come very soon. The team has been working like crazy on it for a while already.

[severe igloo]

Me in real life: 20 bucks for a Gin Tonic? FOH
Me in crypto: ONLY 800 bucks for the latest NFT on this game? Hold my poodle!

[twilit junco]

They better get ready to not regret their inactivity when prices shoot up further 😄

[harsh plaza]

Oh i've got my dream cars but if i did that i'd have to spend a fortune on making a driveway that a low car could get up haha

[past flume]

Just get a lambo

[humble wave]

Seen Rimac? You'll forget Lambo

[severe igloo]

Spent 1K on NFT’s last night. 1.5 if you count the day

[humble wave]

Heavy buying bro lol

[harsh plaza]

Not for me, if i want speed i'd go back to my road bikes haha, 1/30 of the price too !

[vernal vale]

these dudes invest a few hundred k USD at a time usually, so i imagine they want to be a little more cautious and see some gameplay and progress first, they're ok missing out on some of the gains haha

[past flume]

That’s expensive asf lmao

[humble wave]

Just $2-3m.

[plain shale]

Yeah, I’ve been here since March, so I’ve seen everything. Trying to keep a balance between being so hype that I want to ask for an open-world gameplay demo and private beta. But not bugging the team all the time 😁

[past flume]

If you go the speed you’ll just crash or something lmao

[past flume]

I mean yea wirh ILV

[humble wave]

Well if you get $100 per ILV as rev u can set money aside 😁

[past flume]

100$ per ILV hahahahhaha

[humble wave]

Th thought of it lol

[vernal vale]

that would be like 1 bil in total revdis

right?

10 mil coins lol

[harsh plaza]

@twilit junco With the current price surge i'm already regretting not getting more when it was low 90's 🤣

[harsh plaza]

Haha already been there brother, got a pretty banged up rig these days 😮

[twilit junco]

We could see another dip. Not sure if that was the last time below $100. We still haven't released anything major and if BTC/ETH would drop a lot again... 🙂 I'm still trying to get more funds together, so I wouldn't mind another dip but if that doesn't happen, also a win 🙂

[humble wave]

Just asked my landlord if I can pay him later. He doesn't know I bought an NFT with the money lol. 😁

[vernal vale]

overall crypto market still crabbing and looks fragile

prob will have some more entry points

[harsh plaza]

Yea the only reason i was calling for high $60's ILV earlier was i was expecting another capitulation event on BTC. Though as we stand now, we might be making a lower low in the next week. If that happens, i don't think sub 100's will happen again from that point. 🤯

[humble wave]

I guess the dumper whales have dumped and no new whales have entered, have they? So even if there is a market drop the fact that we dropped that low was due to the dumps, not solely due to the market crash

[harsh plaza]

Haha dare you to tell him what you spent the money on!

[humble wave]

He wouldn’t even know what it stands for lol 😁

[inner topaz]

Yep, just write that whole promo off, seriously. Promo's moving forward will be run like the FEI one. Where you have to be somewhat active in order to win.

[past flume]

Would be crazy

[harsh plaza]

NFT - No F'ing Time, to pay rent 😄

[past flume]

Lmao

Funny thing I don’t even own a car because I don’t need and here is me looking at lambos to buy

[humble wave]

I'm active. So I might get one of the future ones 😂

[past flume]

😂😂😂

[humble wave]

1st Lambo is a good start lol

[past flume]

Imagine hahahahahah

[harsh plaza]

Think of the women/men you could pick up :p

[past flume]

Tbh I’d rather flex than have a gold digger

[humble wave]

He can pick one at a time though.

[vernal vale]

lol not sure if u guys are expecting an insane moon of ilv or ur just incredibly heavily invested

[past flume]

Disgust me

[harsh plaza]

Tokenomics, good sir!

[real tiger]

https://c.tenor.com/T4RsmmjEzWEAAAAM/thomas-shelby-cillianmurphy.gif

[humble wave]

Ok guys. I'm heading to the hospital to get the second Covid Dose. Hope I don't die lol.

[real tiger]

Goodlucknarash

[humble wave]

Thx bro. Catch u later

[harsh plaza]

cya mate

[unreal spruce]

Take care!

[past flume]

We got a lot of money

[twilit junco]

If by "moon" you are thinking about an increase in $ILV, then yes, many here do expect $1.000+ but if that is all you are thinking about then you are missing out on understanding the RevDis part of the tokenomics. This is where some of us actually expect the real money bags to come from 🙂

[past flume]

Not many people have the amount of money that we can just casually throw around

I haven’t even been vaccinated

[mellow karma]

Does illuvium already on steam?

[past flume]

Not yet

[vernal vale]

i'm really curious to see how the first batch of revdis will affect token price, cause it pays out in ILV thats unlocked immediately. will people sell to cash in on their dividend, or will they stake it to increase their share of the future pie? excited from an academic perspective to see how it all plays out

[past flume]

NO

It’s paid

It’s no token unlocking

That’s staking

Unless I’m misunderstood

[vernal vale]

its paid in ILV i mean, and then you choose do you re-invest that ILV or cash it out

thats what i meant

[past flume]

Ahh

It will increase lol

As it’s money given to you

And if people restake it will have zero inflation

Only opposite

More money made more likely people will spill back into ILV for more

[earnest drift]

if u had to compare this game to another game. What would it be similar or like too?

[past flume]

Someone said clash royal

Since of the auto battler

[earnest drift]

anyone else

[past flume]

But since it’s ILV you can’t compare

Because it’s has it’s own uniqueness

[summer bobcat]

tft mixed with pokemon

[past flume]

Anyone remember

The nba 2k card game

Addictive asf

Card game on iOS

[earnest drift]

nah

[past flume]

Just compare it to other block chain games

[earnest drift]

ok

cool

[past flume]

Regardless we are 500million minimum

1b plus if shits good

500 is enough for hype

Not sure what we can reach without major exchanges though because axie had major exchanges all the way through

[vernal vale]

need to list for sure

most casual crypto investors wouldn’t bother going off exchange

[wintry plaza]

Hi guys ! New here and happy 😉

[frozen garden]

if you know magic chess in mobile legends.... + pokemon

anybody have an idea or estimate of when the gameplay trailer will be released?
I want to stake more ILV before that happens haha

[past flume]

I would never invest in exchanges unless I trade. I don’t trust that shit

Either meta mask or ledger

[vernal vale]

maybe so

but it is a vitally important gateway

[past flume]

Yea. Most people trust binance

It’s soo convenient

[vernal vale]

yes, and if it goes down

[twilit junco]

Going to be interesting, yeah. But since RevDis will be paid out on a constant basis and not just once every month or so, I don't expect any major things to be spottable because everyone probably has different plans and even those planning to sell probably won't do at the exact same distribution, so it might be hard to pinpoint if a bigger sale wave happens due to RevDis or other factors.

[vernal vale]

i think crypto will get fucked horribly for at least a year

if not more

[twilit junco]

Find a spot, read up on things, get comfortable and enjoy the ride 🙂

!welcome

[tidal garnet]

Welcome!

Wondering where to get started and learn more? The #791148036935516161 section has all the information you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information. Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date: 📣announcements #🚰〕leaks #✍〕rules

[vernal vale]

any info on if will we have to use gas to claim revdis rewards?

not sure if it was discussed previously

[past flume]

Probs . Let’s just see bro. Excited to see how everything unfolds. But untill than gas fees should be like in the 1 to 0.5 digits

Eth should have their gas fees solved by next year. Surely

[vernal vale]

hope so

[velvet tide]

Damn, i wnat that 😄

But yeah minigame will be dope

[elfin sparrow]

Even if it does create sell pressure shouldn’t it be equal to or less than the buy pressure created from the vault buybacks?

[vernal vale]

in a vacuum yes, but just like how the vault buying could also drive other investor activity, same could be said for post revdis dump

[elfin sparrow]

Eg if 100% of revenue is used to buy ILV, and x% is sold by stakers that receive it, and y% is re-staked, then buy pressure should outweigh the sell pressure.

[vernal vale]

again not really a bad thing at all, just normal market dynamics

[elfin sparrow]

Agree this is only considering the interplay of these factors in a vacuum and of course there will always be other factors at play.

[twilit junco]

I expect the buying pressure from the vault due to people spending ETH without owning any $ILV themselves to be higher than the selling pressure from ILV stakers selling their RevDis. But we'll see 🙂

[elfin sparrow]

However just considering the dynamic between the buybacks and revenue distribution it seems that it would require 100% of revenue to be sold simply to match the buying pressure from the vault, and that is unlikely as I’m sure a % of that revenue will be re-staked.

I agree it should appreciate the price of ILV.

[vernal vale]

yeah think so as well

the only downside risk is if the game is unsuccessful and not enough money comes into the ecosystem to merit its current valuation

but if things go smoothly yeah i guess overall buying pressure should lead to long term appreciation, unless for whatever reason people just want to cash out entirely

[twilit junco]

a) I don't see that happen and b) there's always some risk with investments 🙂

[vernal vale]

yup, i know a lot of people don't like to hear about any risk haha

[sage falcon]

Hey guys, I am all new to ILV.. Will there be a scholarship feature similar to Axie infinity when the game launches?

[twilit junco]

In case of ILV, they should simply not buy $ILV then and wait for the game to release and only go the play2earn route and enjoy the game 😄 Investment without risk is impossible unless maybe your possible gains are suuuuuuper low and thus no risk is involved 🙂

[prisma zealot]

Is it normal to be so stoked with this project? sometimes I put the radio from the webpage as background music 😂 I cant wait for the next to come. So excited for the gameplay trailer

[vernal vale]

yeah i agree. honestly i like it when people arent blind to it, and when people start talking lambos and rockets it sets off the bs detector haha

[twilit junco]

There MIGHT be a loaning feature in the future but nothing has been confirmed or is - to my knowledge - actively being worked on. It isn't as necessary as in Axie either. ILV doesn'T have such huges entry fees.

!f2p

[tidal garnet]

You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience will familiarize you with Illuvium, and won’t feel like an “abridged” version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience, so you can decide to opt in to the paid experience and start collecting NFTs, and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game.

[twilit junco]

https://gfycat.com/gaseouswickedbufflehead

[twilit junco]

You can find more clips for background music here: https://medium.com/illuvium/27-composer-tamás-borbélys-illuvium-soundtrack-casts-a-spell-of-sci-fi-adventure-1dc8f8e4d50

[full dome]

wow i picked the wrong day to not keep up with discord

[twilit junco]

Yeah, took me a while this morning too because #🎮〕illuvium-zero was basically another #💬〕general 😄

[full dome]

lmao yep, time to dive into that discussion

[past flume]

Doubtable

[twilit junco]

Have fun 🙂 Most discussion seems to be about how to sell the lands actually. I've seen no one say much about the mini-game in general. "Everyone" seems fine/hyped so I don't expect a lot of issues when it comes to the council approving it 🙂

[past flume]

Depends on the RevDis. No way in buying More ILV if it’s worth 500-2000$ when I earn 2-5k a month

From ilv

2k per token and you make 2k from revenue a month. And it’s 10$ per ILV. Not logical to rebuy

Sorry for the FUD

[twilit junco]

You don't buy any new $ILV with RevDis in the first place. RevDis is paid out in $ILV already.

[past flume]

Hmm well that’s true. If it was paid in eth

Than I wouldn’t expect much of a pump

Or hold with price

Because I don’t think a vast majority wil re buy unless they are freaking whales

Because whales will earn like 10+ thousand a month

[twilit junco]

As said, RevDis is $ILV already so it has no impact on buying pressure. People might purchase additional $ILV regardless of owning $ILV already but this will happen with money not already invested in $ILV in the first place. What will put a lot of buying pressure on the token is the vault because whatever ETH people spend in-game will be used to buy $ILV and then distribute it to stakers.

[past flume]

If ILV is 2k though surely revdis should be 100$ due to the rarity to even fucken hold an ILV 😂

Not many people are gonna get an ILV at that price

So surely . Surely

[elfin sparrow]

What do you doubt?

[twilit junco]

RevDis and the price of $ILV are not directly linked. Especially not when it comes to $ILV price affecting RevDis because $ILV could cost $10.000 and we could still have $0 RevDis. There just would have to be another reason for people to see value in $ILV.

When it comes to the other way around, meaning RevDis affecting ILV price, then yes, due to the vault putting buying pressure on the token if a lot of RevDis is made, price will go up. The demand to hold ILV will as well. But in theory, if no one actually gets the tokenomics (won't happen), you could have $ILV sit at $100 and still make $1000 per token per month because the game makes billions in revenue but no one except for the vault buys it.

[elfin sparrow]

Yes I agree. I think it’s unlikely but that would be the risk.

[prisma zealot]

This is genius, it matches 100% with my taste. I didn't played it yet but its already in my heart

[elfin sparrow]

If the game was continually making $1000 per token per month the price of ILV would increase from $100 due to that buying pressure though, regardless of whether people understood the value or the tokenomics correctly, simply due to the supply and demand

[plain delta]

Linguistic talents is a much nicer way of saying 'he's a dickhead' 😛

[past flume]

Yea but amount of total held should equal something especially to those holding a lot at 2k

Surely

[velvet tide]

This

[past flume]

But your right.

[past flume]

I doubt everyone will buy back unless the price is below 500

[elfin sparrow]

The vault does the buy back

[plain delta]

Just to be very clear once again it isn't even mostly me. I may have done less than 1/4 of the actual work of designing the document. But I'm a pretty quick typist.

There is work from @inner topaz @dire cape @rich terrace and @little flax and @sage falcon and @prime sequoia and @sudden dawn and probably more.

I just did the most hours on it since they are all busy doing Illuvium stuff.

[plain shale]

Great work everyone, really interesting concept and ties to the main game. Looking forward to see how the council votes and how the details will be worked out. Love everything the team does.

[past flume]

It’s just soo debatable man. Ugh

Two sides of me

I’ll make an extra 5000 in a year by investing 24009 if I make that in a year from revdis

[twilit junco]

Yeah, I agree. I didn't want to put too much into this now though. I just meant to highlight that RevDis and ILV price are not pegged to one another or something. Especially not when it comes to ILV price affecting RevDis. The other way around is more concrete, yes.

[past flume]

If it stays at 10$

So than that’s 30000 in a year now

Okay fuck it

I need to do more maths and calculations

[velvet tide]

hahhaa, damn boys, what kind of numbers are you throwing around here

[elfin sparrow]

For sure. The tokenomics are quite elegant in that way. Very favourable to ILV holders and stakers.

[past flume]

I’m trying to make the most out of the situation

😣😭

😂😂

[twilit junco]

My numbers are purely educational. I'm currently not in estimation mode 😄

[velvet tide]

ok good 😄

[glossy lake]

Hello guys what happen if i invest $100?

[twilit junco]

Then you invested $100 🙂

[velvet tide]

you will become rich

lol

[twilit junco]

Anything special you are looking for? 🙂

[velvet tide]

NFA

[empty tangle]

is 500$ a good amount for staking?

[glossy lake]

Are u a Grade 2 student? 🙂

[humble wave]

Thought u bought one. Lol

[velvet tide]

i bought one

[twilit junco]

Only you can decide what the right amount is. More is better but no one can decide for you what you can put in as investment.

[velvet tide]

but i want the edition 1559/1559

[twilit junco]

Grade 2 student? Sorry, I'm not following 🙂

[humble wave]

Haha the last half was sold out like crazy

[empty tangle]

I'm really down with this project XD

[sage falcon]

These days I've been putting $500 as a starter investment in projects. I think that's a good staking amount for any reasonable person.

[stray swan]

Anyone have any idea on when the land sale is yet?

[sage falcon]

I'm a bit less reasonable when it comes to this project though.

[humble wave]

When it’s out the hype will tell you as we’ll all go crazy

[twilit junco]

It's not even approved yet. You can go to #🎮〕illuvium-zero and follow the discussion as well as check the GDD in pinned messages

[stray swan]

Haha I will keep an eye out for crazy then 😜

[humble wave]

It won’t fail u i promise

I got the second dose and my body hurts already lol

[earnest drift]

Evening all

[earnest drift]

Pyzier

I had no symptoms with oyzier

Pzier

[humble wave]

Evening bro. Yep

[velvet tide]

yeah, picked up speed like crazy

[earnest drift]

I heard others had headache and fatigue on the 2nd

[humble wave]

I guess they were all waiting for 1559 lol. Good sign though

[earnest drift]

Lol

[humble wave]

I’ll let u know in some hours

[earnest drift]

Keep me posted

[stray swan]

Thank you, got the GDD, excited to have a read later :)

[velvet tide]

hhaha, yeah FOMO took over

[humble wave]

Let’s see if the upgrade will be successful or it’ll be 0 lol

[velvet tide]

i am a believer

[velvet tide]

This one excites me even more

https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/1418248658420654086?s=20

cobie (@CryptoCobain)

https://t.co/3zzQQx2rnJ

Likes

249

Twitter · Jul 22, 2021, 4:36 PM

[past flume]

Gas fees

Affordable?

[velvet tide]

No, this is upgrade to PoS

Gas will never be affordable in the future

That is the tradeoff of a decentralized Blockchain

Gas will be cheap on L2,like Optimism, Arbitrum, Immutable X, or Sidechains like Polygon

[past flume]

Well

The polkadot network is set to destroy

With their utility they will have compared to the eth network

If they can’t cut down their gas

[velvet tide]

Until now Polkadot has been a nice hype marketing project without a product

[past flume]

Polkadot already have a coin set to have zero fees for their exchange

[past flume]

Pdex?

[velvet tide]

Link?

can i use that right now?

[past flume]

Polka is the alpha

[velvet tide]

Parachain auctions are not even live yet

[past flume]

And the ones built on it will be the ones used for it

Pdex

😏

It’s like having a bank

You need a debit card

Credit card

Polkadot is the bank

[velvet tide]

Pdex is on testnet lol

[past flume]

Credit card is pdex

[velvet tide]

there is nothing live yet

[past flume]

Very soon man

[velvet tide]

Yeah i hear that for months now 😄

[stark lava]

Anyone else thinking about yolo ripping in an unreasonable amount of money into the farming pools?

[velvet tide]

just 2 months until parachain auctions

[eager karma]

Come back here when Polkadot reaches the same level of network effects of Ethereum

[velvet tide]

Alreday did

oops

[stark lava]

Nice, I lobbed a chunk of $ but it just doesn't feel like enough to make it lol

[humble wave]

Haha that was a slap in face lol 😂

[past flume]

Dude it was supposed to launch in august that’s all. Hasn’t been delayed like eth for the past years

[stark lava]

How much ILV to make it? 😋 🍴

[past flume]

Dude it beats it’s gas fees in 3-4 months

No gas fees

[velvet tide]

Yeah, bro zero usage, a lot of hype scam IDOs. If you want to tell me DOT is the future show me a product or gtfo

[past flume]

No slippage

[velvet tide]

all just talk

all dreams

[stark lava]

This ^

Same with Cardano

[past flume]

Huh. They are launching a thing like uniswap very soon. Started last year March or before. All I know is seeds were last year March

[velvet tide]

No slippage, do you really believe all that bullshit? Who will eat the fucking toxic flows through Arbers?

Very soon

Bets marketing slogan

[humble wave]

1, …. infinite

[velvet tide]

Dot learned a lot form ADA

[past flume]

Everything isn’t like eth man

They rushed it

Now they gotta pay the coincidences of launching too early

[stark lava]

C'mon I need real numbers here, I need 8 figures to feed mi familia

[past flume]

If eth can get gas fees to 1$

Than it will be good

[humble wave]

8 figures of ILV? Dude you need to be Moby Dick to be able to afford that lol

[velvet tide]

How long are you in this space? Seriosuly you sound like a total noob. there is nothing like zero slippage. Who would even believe that? If zero slippage would be possible why are market makers not doing this today???

[velvet tide]

ETH Layer fees dont matter

[stark lava]

Even $1 is too much, but with L2s we could get to a really good place

[past flume]

If it does better than eth what will you say

[velvet tide]

Nobody will tranact on L1

[eager karma]

Come back here when that "uniswap" collects the same amount of fees as the real one

[past flume]

Already on track to beat it

No way people are using eth for daily transactions wirh these gas fees

[stark lava]

I mean how much ILV do I need to have/stake to hit 8 figures in the next 3 years

[past flume]

Which is its goal I believe to be adopted to be like that

[eager karma]

You clearly don't know what network effects are and what they mean

[past flume]

It’s not bitcoin

Bitcoin can just be cute

[humble wave]

That will be pure speculation, but I guess 1k ILV will make u a million later in the future

[velvet tide]

Ok I think you are just trolling now. Cut your losses bro

[past flume]

I don’t hold any

😂😂

[velvet tide]

Thats good for you

[past flume]

I just don’t like the situation with the eth gas fees for future adoption

That’s all

If they can walk the walk rather than talk the talk

[stark lava]

There is 10M fully diluted supply right? So that'd be a 10B mcap after everything is released? Seems reasonable if the game is extremely successful

[past flume]

But

At the same time

[velvet tide]

I understand, but I dont like hype projects built on pipe dreams. Its not like I am some bilnd ETH maxi. I would prefer Solana, A lot cheaper, Blockchain in production live with real usage and products. But DOT has been nothing but bla bla

[past flume]

We get taxed gst

So if 1$ in gas fees

Wouldn’t I’d say hurt

[eager karma]

You clearly haven't heard of L2 solutions that use rollups, like Optimism, Arbitrum, zKSync, Immutable X (for NFTs)...

[humble wave]

Well if you can afford it now, it's pretty cheap tbh 😁

[velvet tide]

That is a very big IF

[velvet tide]

You dont understand, because you probably have not tranascted anything on Optimism or Polygon

Try them out and you see your fees will be far under 1 Dollar

No enduser will transact on Ethereum Mainnet

That is not what it is there for

[past flume]

What’s it here for than?

It can’t be cute like bitcoin

Only for tokens to be built on its shit gas fee network?

[stark lava]

Yeah I think you're right - 1k seems like a good target. With max lock + yield farming right now that could turn into probably 3-6k in a year

[acoustic crag]

Gas fees actually aren’t too bad atm. Considering.

[velvet tide]

A decentralized settlement Layer. All these L2 chains have to "report" back to the Ethereum chain to guarantee security.

[past flume]

I’m having to pull out 70$ just to pay them it’s ridiculous

70 for like 2-3 claims

[velvet tide]

Ethereum is the most decentralized and secure Blockchain by far, and if you do not understand the value of that then I am just sorry. Why are you even in the cryptospce

[humble wave]

Don't forger about RevDis. It's additional ILV for u. But buy a ng 1k ILV means paying more than $100k now. If u can afford it, not bad at all 😜

[past flume]

I do understand that fact. But it’s beatable if other are just as secure and better fees per purchase

[velvet tide]

Yeah I understand it i not a nice experience for a user, but this will not be how Ethereum will be sused at scale in the future

[past flume]

I would be shilling pandake swap but that’s unsafe a bit

[acoustic crag]

Sounds like the contract is very complicated.

[humble wave]

It's not $70 now. It should be pretty cheap. I have never paid more than $15 per transaction

[past flume]

For 3

[stark lava]

Didn't consider the revenue distribution too, that's sweet. I'd have to sell something to be able to afford that much & it's hard to figure out what to sell lol

[earnest drift]

whats everyone doing

u guys watching the opening ceremony for the Olympics soon.

[velvet tide]

Do you understand that there are always limitations and tradeoffs? If they claim unlimited transactions at 0 cost then you can only achieve that by giving up decentralization. 3 big servers facilitationg all txs. That is not decentralization

[past flume]

Under a dollar man

[humble wave]

I claimed 5 the other day and paid $8

[past flume]

Would be nice

[velvet tide]

Ok man good luck

[past flume]

In aud that’s like 12 and I looked before it was 22 in the morning

[humble wave]

Haha. Well I didn't pay my rent once and Immigration not doing that again. Gonna go homeless but it'll be worth it 😁

[velvet tide]

How long are you into crypto already

?

[stark lava]

Hope you're joking 😦 😦 😦

[acoustic crag]

Eip 1559 comes into effect soon, might help lower costs on some of these expensive to use contracts.

[velvet tide]

No it wont

[humble wave]

Well I consider USD but claim at 10 Gwei. It won't be expensive at all. Maybe not $1 but definitely not $70

[velvet tide]

EIP1559 has nothing to do with cheaper gas cost

[humble wave]

Nope. Cross my heart. All in ILV. Fiat is worth less. I'll buy my landlord’s house shortly lol

[past flume]

What’s the go wirh the burning of tokens to cut the gas fees

[vernal vale]

yea please dont overextend and not pay ur rent

[velvet tide]

Gas will alwas be high because there is massive dmenad for 100% decentralized and secure txs on Ethereum

[stark lava]

Hope you have somewhere to stay at least though :/

[velvet tide]

it wont make fees cheaper

[vernal vale]

🙊

[past flume]

Eth would be something I’d buy a car with but not groceries

Get what I just said their?

[velvet tide]

no

not really

[past flume]

I use the big money in eth and the small amount in pandake

[humble wave]

It'll be fine 😁 as long as I hold ILV there's nothing to worry about. And I'm a shrimp lol

[native lava]

https://twitter.com/iapetos105/status/1418506702668767232

iapetos105 (@iapetos105)

What do you think if I giveaway a 360 degree panorama gallery drawing with your own collection?

Let me know about your answer! RT + follow me, don't miss out the news!

Twitter · Jul 23, 2021, 9:42 AM

[velvet tide]

Hahahaha, so you use exactly what I told you will happen. All usage will move to EVM compatible Chains which get security from Ethereum

[stark lava]

I can get behind a big bet, but take care of yourself.

[past flume]

So make it if crypto is adopted I would have most in eth but than a small amount in pancake well binance to use every day purchases

[acoustic crag]

You know BSC is just a copy of Ethereum and the only reason they have low fees is because the traffic is non comparable. If they ever did get the traffic the fees would be astronomical because they hardly have any nodes. And it’s as centralized AF. There is no future for BSC

[velvet tide]

BSC is not decentralized

Polygon is even cheaper

[humble wave]

I do brother. Never selling lol

[past flume]

Interesting

[humble wave]

BSC is Centralaized af

[stark lava]

Hope you get rich 🙂

[past flume]

Besides our arguments and disagreements. Appreciate the argument. I take it what I can hehe. You obviously know your shit.

[vernal vale]

yea hopefully that faith is rewarded

[past flume]

I just hate the gas fees

[humble wave]

It's not about getting rich. It's about following something which would lead to your dreams.

[past flume]

But eth I would trust to have all my money in

[vernal vale]

dont have the balls to ever go so all in on anything lmao

[past flume]

Yea ILV am so comfortable balls deep

[velvet tide]

I think @past flume does not grasp the importance of decentralization in a blockchain. If you have everything run on 2 servers they can scam you. If there are 1000s of nodes worldwide then you have security, and thats what is most important for a blockchain. Otherwise why not use an Amazon server lol

[vernal vale]

this is a good point, probably also why not many people use bsc, outside of shitcoins

[velvet tide]

I undersatnd, but in the future you will use Ethereum like BSC, with cheap fees, but its still on Ethereum via L2

[past flume]

Eth will just grow. Gas fees will never be cheap

[stark lava]

In that case, I hope you achieve your dreams! 😄 I'll mostly settle for rich at this point

[vernal vale]

i'm kind of dumb and don't really know how to use layer 2 solutions for ETH, like thats not applicable to stuff like us claiming staking rewards right?

[humble wave]

@past flume just claim when Gwei is under 15 and claim when u have enough ILV. There never a need to pay $70 for gas

[humble wave]

We'll get there one day 😁 don't forget to stake and enjoy

[past flume]

Noooo never paid that much

I just have to put in 70$ to top up my eth to pay my weekly fees

For claiming

[velvet tide]

You do understand these solutions are already live, you can use them today, or do you just want to play stupid? https://polygon.technology/, https://optimism.io/gas-comparison. Just two olutions live today. These are basically your BSC justt on Ethereum, with a lot more security

[vital lynx]

I'm that's a shrimp with rental money pls

no homeless 🦐 🏘️

[past flume]

How can we use them to claim gas for the ILV rewards

[velvet tide]

Not today

[humble wave]

I always hold about $150, but it's ok. You’ll be everything back through ILV. no need to be unhappy about gas at all

[past flume]

Well when

[vital lynx]

But still be reasonable about it like Arash is doing

[humble wave]

Yep. We'll be independent shortly of landlords lol

[velvet tide]

but Illuvium will not be played on ethereum, but Immutable X, which is your BSC on Ethereum but more secure and also cheap

[vital lynx]

he's paying $8 for 5 ILV claims

[past flume]

Too much over time. I don’t wanna spend 1000$ a year on claiming ILV

[vital lynx]

still sensible

[past flume]

It’s annoying ugh

[velvet tide]

You dont want to move staking somewhere else rigth now, because security is most important when there are almost $100 million staked lol\

[vital lynx]

Claim longer periods that's the beauty of it.

[humble wave]

The moment mini game is out you'll receive RevDis. I'm sure it'll be enough to cover all the gass pay in a year

[twilit junco]

Then don't claim for a full year, decide not to get any compounding but save gas as a result. No one forces you to claim right now.

[past flume]

It’s just annoying hahahha

[humble wave]

Now I'm doing every 10 ILV with Gwei under 15. So....even cheaper now

[past flume]

I do the smallest I can do adds up to 800

I mean whatever yolo

Into it

[past flume]

But when is that

[twilit junco]

You are getting a shit ton of free money printed right now. I might overlook something but I really can't see any reason to complain here.

[past flume]

Yea

[west hound]

Litttle price pump today $110 USD, sauce.

[humble wave]

Whenever it is. Let's say you hold 100 ILV and get $2 per token per month. You said u spend $1000 for gas every year? So you get your money back in. 5 months. There u go. No need to worry about gas and no need to be annoyed about something as safe as ETH

[past flume]

2 x 1.3

[vital lynx]

What people need to understand is how compound interest works. You understand that, you are happy to pay the $8 - $10 per txn

[past flume]

2.6

In aud

[humble wave]

Whatever currency bro. Try comparing it to USD. Does that mean I should compare it to TRY? No, I also look at the value in $. Just claim long periods and trust in ILV to pay u back. You won't have to worry about a thing. I personally don't understand your discussion about gas as ILV is literally paying u for it. Lol

[bright kestrel]

I missed the presentation for illuvium on redefine

Does anyone have a link for a recording?

Watching Kain now

[past flume]

So how much of the 3.5$ seed investors getting distributed

[earnest drift]

Im claiming sILV. So im gonna do it all at once closer to release

[past flume]

Actually was the preseed 3.5$

Or the seed

[vital lynx]

I will recommend you go for ILV

sILV when you claim can instantly be used, so you may as well get compound interest while the rates are high

Just friendly advice

[earnest drift]

Volume i notice picked up

[main narwhal]

Hello Illuvium peeps,
Visiting from the Synthetix Discord. Just published a 5000-word article on blockchain gaming: https://twitter.com/yonatanbenshimo/status/1418510290619146242 Illuvium gets a write up within it. I'd welcome a retweet.

yonatan ben shimon (@yonatanbenshimo)

To mark next week’s launch of the @YieldGuild $YGG token on @SushiSwap’s MISO platform, YBS has produced an in-depth report on Yield Guild Games’ role in the blockchain #gaming space: https://t.co/aWtWoJVPAt

Twitter · Jul 23, 2021, 9:56 AM

[acoustic crag]

Nice.

[wispy valve]

Hi Guys. New here. Just wanted to ask about staking. Are we staking via the Ethereum mainnet and pay the usual gas fees or do we need to bridge ILV to Immutable X first?

[warm moon]

please go to #🥩〕staking

[vital lynx]

going to still be eth mainnet

https://staking.illuvium.io/

[humble wave]

Did we go live on twich? I got a notification

[marble oyster]

i don't think so

two more hours before the stream i think

[humble wave]

Lol. My phone was in a hurry 😁

[velvet tide]

Thats why Ethereum gas is so high, because it makes you richer than waht you pay

[humble wave]

I'll pay more. Can I be richer now? 😁

[earnest drift]

Spend 100 to make 1000

[velvet tide]

hahaha

[earnest drift]

Hahahaha

[velvet tide]

if there is a way