#💬〕general
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do anyone have any idea how the illiuvials can be bought. Planning to stake a good amount but I'm really wondering if staking can give you a something to buy an Illuvial
They'll be missing out on some sweet YF gains. So let them. 😉
No Illuvials will be sold pre-release. They have to be captured in-game and can then be bought on the IlluviDEX as the secondary market.
if you claim sILV as your staking reward, you can use that as in game currency
if you claim ILV only, you will have to use ETH in game
So staking has no relations with buying illuvials
No.
oh I see
been wanting to hold ILV tokens since it was like 30$, sadly I didn't have any funds
Now I can use my earnings in axie to do so haha
ouch
~$100 is still an amazing entry if the game and token performs even just remotely as good as many of us expect.
NFA
could be worse, i bought my first batch at like 120 lmao
probably the worst of anyone on this server
I'm kinda hooked when i first saw the game design even just the UI of the official website haha
fortunately when the market got crushed i bought way more
kinda reminds me of monster hunter which I really love to play haha
yeah looks like they're doing a very nice job so far
nice decision haha
long term hold though
easy longterm hold, with the amount of ILV I am printing
haha yeah lots of u guys are really heavily in i heard
ILV should split 1:1000
@unreal spruce as far as I'm aware crypto is still unregulated in the Philippines. If you don't mind me asking are Filipino's declaring there crypto when it comes to tax over there. ?
Hey. Welcome
good morning to everyone! 😉
Morning 
just gonna wait for the prize to come right
what kind of price range of sILV will be the initial pay to play?
Morning all!
I could be wrong, but I don't believe they have to.
I'm new to crypto but I'm almost certain that it's not regulated and I don't think people declare it.
Hello when will the clix nfts from the competition be given out?
we have already provided our address to the bot to verify our eligibility, is it not that same ETH adress for the airdrops?
I think usually with NFTs it's Pedro that'll help out?
I would love to have such knowledge because i needed his help in the past with NFT's that i had won
yoo
hahaha 😆
But to be fair, I don’t really see the dump, nor feel it
Haha yeah. When we come down $1-5 it means someone dumped but the impact is nothing lol a breeze
2900 Ilv at once,..
a few $ impact
The road is clear for you to lead us to glory 😁
less whales more tuna or goldfish 😉
Well these dumps are clear signs of how strong ILV can hold. The stronger the more whale-dump and bear resistent
road to 1k 😛
You wanna be the only whale, like no whale ever beeen. To eat shrimp is your real quest to find the ILV withiiiiiiiiiin
Damn, gas seems low now!
Lead the way my friend. Us shrimps are behind you. Btw, were you able to find the costume Rims you were looking for?
I might claim now
You should have been a poet lol
Already buying rims on that lambo huh?
I decided to claim every 10 ILV from now on
i was looker for the center caps not the rims 😛
hahahah it's the pokemon themesong rebuilt for @real tiger
Yeah esp with none-spinning logo lol
I am thinking the same, because claiming every second eats a lot of the reserves anyway.
Ah, you can order Lambo factory to manufacture a costume lambo for you, rims is nothing 😁
hahaha i want the black centercaps with red ilv logo
I usually did 3-4 every 2-3 days while APY was high. Now that it's low and takes time, I'm just gonna wait for every 10.
Sounds aggressive 😎 me like
APY is low? How high was it?
At first it was over 300 if I'm not mistaken. I mean it's lowER now. Not low 😁
Pretty sure, we got some whales left within and outside the team that are equally equipped with diamond hands like Molten 😄
Any new news before I go to sleep guys?
Yeah. 3k dump and no price impact lol
its time for eth to go back to 4400 and test ath
300 in the ilv only poule fleixible you mean then?
then we are 200+ 😛
Only ILV core pool at first
Probably the mini game GDD coming in the next few hours👀
No, 12 months locked. Just as the 145% now are 12 months locked too
Well we showed our support by buying the EIP-1559 NFT. Let it moon now
Sup guys
ah ok, I am in both flexible pouls now. I still think the yield is more then enough 😉
will be interesting to see if eip-1559 pumps it
still scared to lock hahaha
Well each has his/her own plan that work best for them. Mine is endless. Forever bound to ILV
yeah, but I am a chicken lol
Man if that happens....i feel the slap to other projects’ faces. That's gotta hurt baaaaad
Why scared? Well it’s all your decision, but the way everything is pointing at is pretty.
Hey bro. Sorry forgot to say hi 👋
Yep, I hope they can make the release date
Im looking forward to this 😁 the potential of this game is 💯
eoy is very ambitious...
waiting for ILV
We're gonna go through the roof. Make sure there are no neighbors on top, or you'll make a hole in their floor lol
I'll take vacation first. Quitting my job follows a few months after when decent prices/revshare have been confirmed 🙂
Sounds like a plan
Rev/share of $15 the month would do it maybe less after the staked tokens gave me enough new Ilv
$15? It's like a dream come true.
this dream is crazy but imo not impossible, that's the crazy part..
Of course it's possible. I'd think a little lower in the beginning and it'll go up once more exposure and adoption take place and other games get released too
When it is $5 the share i start working less lol
If @lofty knoll thinks 50$/month is possible, then nothing is impossible
Did he make a calculation with that?
That is definitely achievable even at start.
That's is NOT impossible BUT that would need a substantial revenue. For that ILV needs to make a hole in the market and get adopted everywhere with millions of players all paying and staking. That number is crazy high.
Yea, we are probably talking about when 2nd and 3rd titles will be out
Morning everyone :)
And it would be a complete life changer for all the early investor
Yeah but still it might be a bit high. But who would love it? I'd definitely enjoy the great of my life and die a happy man
I mean, Rah would have his yacht pretty easy 😆
Hey my bro whose name has something to do with death and I don't remember what it was lol 👋
Nailed it 👍
The sky is the limit. Traditional gaming has shown what ridiculous numbers are possible. We cannot even foresee how NFTs and play2earn will catapult those revenue numbers to new heights. Even $100 per token per month would be possible in a few years with more than one game out. Those are not unrealistic numbers when it comes to all-time-highs of traditional games as benchmark. It all depends on the quality of Illuvium (both the first main-game, future games and everything around it) and the adoption of play2earn and NFTs by traditional gamers.
We need more than just crypto enthusiasts to jump on it but if (I'd say when) that happens .... if Illuvium is a part of leading the charge then, $50+ per token per month is far from unrealistic. For now, without even an alpha live though - these are mere dreams without any substantial proof 🙂
Yacht? He'll buy the company.
Just a silly Gamertag
Couldn't agree more 👍
did i miss anything the last 3 hours?
Nope. Just specilating what Rah would do if the RevShare gets to $50 per token per month 😜
I would get my private jet 😄
Haha. With the ladies or without? 😉
at 50$ everything included 😄
True true. Some crazy things we wouldn’t do. I guess I'll spend a month thinking why this is happening? What have done to deserve such profit? Then step by step I move to reality and accept it
I think he would make an Illuvium spaceship and would be the biggest Elon Musk's rival 😆
That would be a sight to see 😁

Hey 👋
ANd then we all compete with each other to be the first on the moon!
😆
into space is an old story then...
for the x$ / token to work, you must have your ILV already vested right? just want to confirm
We're gonna go interstellar
No claiming it would compound. Means you have it. Just can't withdraw until the vesting is done
Only staked tokens get revenue share, yes.
I really want to be able to visit other planet, thats like a dream. Just to see what life is like out there.
Not claimed ones?
Claimed tokens are staked automatically when claimed.
got it, so everything has to be claimed and vested already to count for RevDis.. yeah?
So they will also be a part of RevDis
Only claimed
Yes. But only from the time of claiming. Claiming rewards starts the 12 month lock period and stakes the rewards in the ILV pool. As soon as that happened, there is no difference between your rewards or manually deposited ILV anymore except for the time of their unlocking maybe.
Yeah unlocking takes place one year after the claim. Just wanted to confirm that what ever we claim (whether 1 or 100 or 1000 rewards) these days will be a part of RevDis when it starts, right?
You stake something => Rewards pile up (NO compounding for staking or RevShare for these rewards yet) => You claim => Rewards are locked for 12 months AND automatically staked in the ILV pool with a weight of 2.0 (NOW they count for both staking rewards and RevShare)
So yes, from the time of claiming, those rewards are eligable for RevDis as they are both owned by you AND staked
Thx for the clarification bro. Thought i had understood it wrong at first 😁 wanted to clarify not to mislead anyone if asked 👍
and the amount we see in the vesting tab implies that amount counted for RevDis, correct?
Lol bunch of degens
yeah, just discount the pending rewards not yet claimed
I wont be buyin shit
Good afternoon people! Just helped my sister joining the Illuvium family. I can't stop talking about Illuvium to my friends. Last time I was so excited about this crypto world, was when I discovered ETH in 2017... 😄
What you see as amount under Vesting is the amount you claimed for every single batch. At least for the rewards. For deposits it's obviously what you put in yourself manually. Any $ILV you have staked (and thus listed under Vesting) is eligable for RevDis. BUT, remember that weight of tokens does matter for RevDis. So while your staking rewards might count as two tokens per token for RevDis, your manually staked tokens might not if you haven't locked them for 12 months.
I like the idea. U need to push the idea to the council. I believe it'll work just fine.
Very nice. Big welcome to the family 😁
thanks man... so this is why some guys claim more often as much as they can.. i really wanted to confirm this before.. thanks.
Hi Great day! Question. Will there be any random attributes of the illuviuls that can be considered to be valuable? like diff stats when upgraded, or when fused, visually random as well,?
and then there is this guy on a differenct channel wanting to sell ILV or get ETH instead.. ahhaha
There will be individual stats per Illuvial, yes. They will only matter in PvE and the Leviathan Arena though. For Ranked PVP, everything gets normalized.
Is there a beta program/ way to join?
That sounds awesome!
You can leave a line here #795444126421483520 and state your interest. The team still has to announce though how beta testers are chosen. Closed beta is this summer, launch in late Q4
No the idea is instead of withdrawing and losing your ILV weight, you borrow another newly made coin (like iUSD for example) pegged to USD, and:
1: unless you pay it back, you cannot withdraw your staked ILV
Or
2: like Alchemix pool, it'll pay itself through RevDis, and when it's done you can withdraw or borrow again.
But that's just an idea. Not on the table not under it. Maybe it's even impossible. We came up with it 😁 I think we have to trademark it too lol. Right, @lofty knoll ?
yeah.. i didnt hesitate locking for 12 months.. that was an easy decision. thanks for clarifying.. on a sidenote , i also liked the way you made that argument in the other channel. hahaha. .
Thank you 🙂
exactly, but yiu have to see what makes sense for you. If gas is expensive, caliming often is not that good
there's a calculator somewhere that gives you the optimal claim time
yeah.. always waiting for the right time.. 🔥
let me try to find it
There is one in Staking channel that Joe shared.
I looked it and it works, though I still decided to go for every 10 ILV to claim. Easier.
I tried to use the shushi calculator once, but was confused about some parameter
i'll try again
hello everyone, i wanted to ask a question: the economy designed to support illuvium, can it be said to be a circular economy?
As long as it feels right and gas is cheap and there's a good amount to claim, it'll worth claiming.
Clicking on core pool in ILV staking website.
Sale? You mean game release?
"Pool APY
556.09%"
but this is the current one
U got it
not mine 😄
Is there pokemon sale??
also, I've different deposits with different locking periods
I believe it means the current APY
i mean somekind of sale of the pet?
so, not so easy to calculate my APY
where we can buy it
well, I guees your way is easier
just wait until I have like 10 ILV
that will do 😄
They are called illuvials and you have to capture them. Then you can sell them. They are not for pre-sale 😁
That's what I came to when saw all those numbers 😁
It should be your APY on the ILV/ETH pool, because that's what determines how much ILV you're earning
Everything will be there when the game starts. There is a mystery sale but it's a mystery and no one knows about it. Lol. But for now it's just staking and receiving rewards
Do I need the token to try and capture???
"APY ilv pool" - this one is the current APY of the ILV pool, because that's where your ILV goes when claimed
The main currency is ETH and or sILV. But the currency of market place is 100% ETH
long story short, I'll wait till I have a couple ILV 😄
What happened to the fei airdrop? Have they announced the winners?
That'll be easier trust me 😁
what is the token for?
Okay so I need ETH/sILV to get it???
Pinned message 😉
Ah thanks!
yes, check the 2 last pinned messages
You can buy ILV from sushi swap and stake it. Staking will give you rewards which you can choose to receive in form a of ILV or sILV. sILV is only used in game and has no other value outside it. To get a better idea, I suggest reading the white paper and the mediums in the website. You can see them in #❓〕faq
The game will be free, but to be able to capture illuvials that you can sell, yes, you will need ETH/sILV
Thank you my friend! how many sILV i need my friend?]
Because those illuvials will be more powerful, and you will need powerful shards to capture them
There is no limit. It'll be up to u.
No worries. Check this message too :
Have fun bro. Feel free to ask questions. You'll find answers in the Illuvi-Academy 😉
You don’t need ILV to play the game tho
"Thanks, boss! You the best" @humble wave you made a promotions?
Just ETH
Haha no I've been called a lot of nicknames. As a teacher, my ears are full 😂
Cant wait to see what Aaron has up his sleeve for the GDD!! For those newcomers that haven’t been following the updates check out #🎮〕illuvium-zero to get some hype in your day ☺️
Likely going to hold off a day, until the mods are done reading/comprehending and we clarify any area's that are causing issues.
Sorry to ruin the hype train
Makes sense
I shall endeavour to find an interesting leak to make up for it
hi, did you guys think about redenomination, np: 1:100? It is good play on people's psychological and make it more attractive for investors?
whats GDD?
game development document
Yeah, thats actually not a bad idea. people like to own "many" coins of a project, best example is ADA lol
that topic has been discussed a lot
and we pushed it off for the near future at least
Ben, when do we get an other community leak game? The last was 24 hours of fun
understand, thanks
ok, good to know
It wasn't easy to do, so was ruled out for now
sure, now most important is to focus on game development 😉
so focusing on development of the game 🙂
I'll pester @inner topaz to lend me his marketing brain and we'll do it bigger and better
Great news. It was really fun before and felt like we learned a lot
Eth back above 2K lets goo
up only bear market cancelled
Has the StackerSatoshi giveaway been drawn yet?
Nope. Not yet
Well at least that means theres still a chance ahaha
Yep. 😉
Well, CoinBureau talked about AXIE. Can't wait for him to talk about ILV.
Just watching that video right now 🙂
Partnership with them would be sick
CoinBureau will blow up the community and brings in investors maybe even serious ones
Then they will come to our community
Oh I have no doubt. Apparently he stood behind AXIE quite strongly. Can't wait to hear him talk about ILV.
Anyone who supports Axie should have the logic to see the upside of ILV
from a DAO perspective, we are extremely strong, this is where I think the advantage is
Core contributors+Community will show through in the long run
Well lots of people are nagging in the comments about their servers and the point that you have to pay to enter.
Of course. YT vids aside, comments will always be useful to see what people think or have experienced
hello frens
yup
Hey bro. What's up?
busy workday 😄
Busy is good. 😁
- is Bullsontheblock Illuvium NFT already on opensea?
- Are lynx NFTs distributed?
Thanks, but how did you invent a time machine? That was like 12 hours ago
Would it be awesome to see your fused illuvium take some parts from the first fused illuvium, that would be really unique and bump up the price of the creature.
LOL, I am watching the recording
@plain delta sent over the distribution list for Clix a couple of hours ago. It will be done shortly
FEI ones will be done tomorrow
And not sure about BOTB
What about Satoshi? Any news?
That's a longer one, we are still awaiting the dedicated review. Hold your horsies
I'll hold them to the end of the world. No rush with ILV 😁 gonna move up the ladder and through the roof. 😉
Haha. It's like my level in chats. I already flipped you and @fierce vine. Next stop Aaron 😁
What happened lol
Nothing bro 😁 eeeeevrything is cool
ty Lord Kieran
will there be a design document leak today, or what that the clix thing?
aaaron said he will leak game design document today
or was I dreaming yesterday?
had a poolparty so kind of vague 😄
So @inner topaz made it to the Coin Bureau video, but not because of Illuvium 😄
Yep. I was waiting to hear his name or see a mention of ILV
It's only a matter of time. Just a simple mention of 100% Rev Share to the token holder is enough to direct people here. And that's just a tiny detail of what ILV can pull off
Seems like a vote is up!
Just you wait, one of my late night tirades is coming, then I will take back over 😛
Haha. Challenge accepted. Guess I'll have to change my color too lol 😁
it was today but the greedy mods want to look at it longer
so tomorrow prob
Bahaha Arash for president of Illuvium Academy
I don't think he has slept in like 4 days. He's putting the final touches on. It may be jarring at first, and I am suggesting we do a community call, as it is fairly complex, but once you understand it, fuck me. It's on like donkey kong
He's got helpful links for days
I'm blushing now 😁
a community call during midnight aussie time
Did he at least mention it?!
🍆 im not exciteed....its a banana in my pocket
We just want to make sure your brains dont melt hahaha
Jokes
Nope. That's one channel I DMed you about 😁
So hyped for the GDD :D
It is fairly extensive you have to read it multiple time to piece the puzzle together
But its good
I'll DM you later so you can explain it in smol-brain-eese🤣
I did reach out to him. Once @glacial laurel starts on Monday he will be hitting up a big big list of influencers
Float like a butterfly sting like a bee here comes our new Fam: Ali!
HYPE!!!
take it to offtopic my man
That would be awesome to have CoinBureau on our side. Pure HYPE and Education at the same time. Thx Kieran 👍
I fear your bears will be nuked in this general chat sir
haha I'm kidding. My point is hes working outrageously hard to get this done quickly
lol. I'm the younger one remember
Fun fact. We were once going to manufacture the worlds first automated bong cleaner
kieran leak us something
He did listen to me then. But it didn't work lol. Kept cracking the glass
of the bong cleaner?
sILV used in in the minigame or nah
hahaha
That emoji will hit 10 very qucikly
People clean their bongs?
No mention, though if someone is looking with magnifying glass can see Illuvium in that article 🙂 He referred you as "one lucky lad"
How many bongs got destroyed in that thing.
8K worth
Lmmmaaaooo
no wonder your mom didn't invest in that project
big oof
Can you link me to the article please
That hasn't been decided. I'm 70% for and 30% against
lol youre split yourself ?
I meant he had the article clipped into his youtube video at 16:22
The article, but probably you have seen it already: https://cointelegraph.com/news/nft-game-creator-flips-axie-infinity-virtual-land-for-9-200-gain-in-one-year
Yeah, because it kinda would have been nice to know from the beginning of staking. So many people have claimed in ILV already when if they knew land could be bought with sILV, they may have changed their strat
You know what else is nice to know
Land can be bought with sILV
Are we talking the theoretical land sale?
Not so theoretical any more?
what the seeds will do March 2022
but that's just how it goes
adapt to it imo
lets burn some ILV
only me and you are out the loop necro
It's all theoretical at this point. We are debating whether or not sILV can be used to claim land. If it could be, I guarantee you a market will open up immediately for the sale of sILV, and its not going to remain pegged to ILV
I don't think it has to get unpegged as you can give a date until market goes online and we can claim sILV until then
Ahhh that makes sense, thanks for the info
We can always make a newer strategy
I hear land sale/mystery sale and my hype goes to maximum overdrive 😂
Silv for land would be an idea
sILV will have a use case as soon as land opens up. Someone farming mass rewards right now might want to take some off the table by selling it at a 10% discount, and there will be people in the market willing to scoop that sILV up
I'm fine either way. Not planning on claiming sILV until rewards start to fall off
So there will be a market for sILV too then. Interesting.
If we allow sILV to be used as a currency to purchase land, you can bet on it
I'm saying I am not sure if its a good idea
lol it would be all OTC sales
🤔
Would that be (partially) to start encouraging ILV burn?
Not necessarily, I might just put mine on Uniswap...
And then we go down a dark path
yeah LOL
This is so perfect
Yeah I understand why u think that. If not the currency for land, then it'll go back to ETH
The coin moving is so awesome lol
I can pretty much guarantee it will happen. Again, not saying its the end of the world. But there are pros and cons to everything. The burn is nice, sILV sitting at 60% of the price of ILV on launch - not so good
Any thoughts on if we'll be limited to land quantity we can buy? Or whales gunna be whaling?
No limits
Remember, all profits go to the vault, which is back to you. Whales are good. Love them. Don't harpoon them
Yeah it'll mess somethings up. It'llbe helpful to know the result before the main event so we can plan something. Either to claim sILV or keep ETH on the side
Play to earn needs whales to pay the players
What is the usecase of land ingame?
I like whales. After I get my piddly 1-2 pieces of land 😂
Landsale will be first revenue distribution?
Well none of this has even been approved, or even presented, so again, lets hold our horses
lol, if everyone thought like that the value of land would be peanuts
Aarons proposal will be presented soon
I'll definitely put some ETH and sILV aside to throw at the party. Whichever currency works, I'll be wanting a piece 😁
I am not so sure about allowing sILV in land sales anymore. It basically opens up a market for dumping sILV. And with yields right now, that might result in a heavy discount to ILV. And there is basically no way for someone with locked ILV to buy sILV with ILV to get peg up again
You could always hedge your bets. Worst case you have some sILV to cure shards with when the game launches
Yes that's the plan. I mostly wish to swap for sILV for the game. I'd rather use ETH in the market
Will we be using Immuntable for the marketplace?
Yes
We have enough time to switch our claims to sILV before the game is launched..... My opinion would be to let sILV in the minigame. developing wil take time and in that time we can claim sILV so,.... No problem on that side 😉
There will be some interesting decisions to be made about land mechanics. I'm excited to see what the community decides
Thank you. Looking forward to it.
We probably gonna need a new channel
It would be nice to see options and vote on them I guess.
its 2.29am here. I cant sleep. So logged onto Illivium discord. hahahahah
Gonna get alot of discussions id bet
Yeah jesus, I should go to sleep
Yeah it needs further discussion
Can u elaborate “heavy discount on ILV”?
So if sILV is available ingame there will be a market for sILV on Suhiswap, Uniswap etc. These will be heavily sold, because I get 500% APY in my Sushiswap pair, I will not claim ILV anymore but rather sILV and dump for ETH or USDC to lock in my yield right now, Some players will buy sILV at a discount maybe, but depends on the effect
This game launch on steam ?
Whale has 100 sILV/ILV to claim. Wants funds urgently. Claims ILV and it's locked a year, so instead claims sILV and puts on the market for 80% of the cost of ILV to get his funds fast. Boom, price difference
That's what I thought too
there won't be sILV on sushi & uniswap iirc
Yeah, it should longterm, but shortterm new generated ILV are all locked, so I would rather claim sILV than ILV and lock in my yield today
just ILV on exchanges
How would you prevent that? They are decentralized exchanges
If there is some transfer lock for sILV then Ok, but otherwise it would easily tradable
i'll let Kieran answer before I say more stupid shit haha
Yeah would be intereting, but based on what Kieran said it sounds like they will be tradeable
i’d be curious to see how many people actually claimed silv so far
Clix is the bessstttt
Yeah it got a bit confusing as claiming sILV to swap for ETH or USDC might cause difference in price of sILV
So I'd rather not change anything and market stay with ETH, and sILV just to be used in game with no other utility but burn ILV
why can’t you let people use sILV in land sales without offering a swap for it? is that not feasible?
🤔
As long as sILV stays sILV and not be tradable, I'm ok with it I guess. I need to read the proposal first. I'd like to know what others think
Someone could open a pool for sILV right now. Nothing we can do to stop it. There isn't a usecase yet, hence no one bothering to do. Once there is a usecase, someone will most definitely do it
I only say 1-2 because I'm assuming that's all I'll be able to afford 😅 I'd love to be able to buy more.
Or is that not what you were getting at?
So a market for sILV is inevitable.
hola, no tienen una sala en idioma español?
I agree.
I wasn't going to start accumulating sILV for a few more months to a year at least
My point was we can't make land cheap just so people with less capital can pick up more plots. It instantly devalues it
I believe so
Will land have different rarities? Would it be pack openings?
Yes it will. pack openings?
let the man sleep
I think there is a use case for packs in Illuvium. Packs containing certain usable items ingame, cosmetic skins , etc... But not land
but sILV would not be able to partake in rev share effectively it is limited to ingame currency
But there wouldn't be that many sILV in the market anyway, as it only gets minted through ILV being burned right? And ends after 3 years!
so there would be a theoretical peg to ETH
As in buy a land pack which contains one land nft of a random rarity?
so you're telling me i should start hoarding sILV for land?
Ok, then I do not care if it will be permitted for land sale, because it does litterally make no difference then. 4 months later game would launch and the sILV is usable, if not before already in minigame or something else
it will be in that mini game only? Like it will have impact on regular Illuvium?
lol, I'm not telling you anything. I am merely listing things that may occur
more sILV used before the game starts the lower the circ supply of ILV will be
True, my bad. I just mean we'd get random land rarities? Or purposefully bid for/buy specific rarities of land?
🙂
Correct @hollow drum
Go get sleep @inner topaz
Oh Lord I'd never say cheap!
I mean like..... It takes a while for someone like me to stack 1eth growing a bit paycheck to paycheck.
I'm already saving in anticipation.
Hoping for like $500-$1000 for land.(if land becomes a thing)
All I was getting at is that I hope they aren't all gone or gas is astronomical by the time I'm able to snag a plot :P
I do t care the price I know I want/need at least 1
:D
That's why I said we need to see the options and discuss it. No options yet. Just speculation
haha I know what you meant, I'm just saying unfortunately thats not how economies of scale work
I can dream :D
I'll leave you alone now :P
Sorry for the pings.
Hard to temper the excitement
hahah please don't be sorry. I love hanging with the community
Guess the price wioll depend on how many plots are available total and how many of these are being sold
I mean ofc but there will be some proposal and there must be some idea about it there already 🙂
And the community wont let u sleep lol 😁
Good reading; I like sILV for mini-games and land.
Yes, it opens the potential for more dumping because the market for sILV will be more mature based on Land, it will most likely be heavily discounted.
I think that’s a good market dynamic though. You’re making staking ILV more valuable because you enable the choice of taking sILV at a discount now.
The worse case I could see is the impact to in-game items if they’re priced in sILV/ ETH. Would always be a discount to use ETH. *Could measure the discount difference from ILV and adjust the sILV in-game shards
The sale mechanics will definitely be decided by the council. We will put forward what we think is the best way, and then the community can deliberate and contribute their own ideas, and then we will write a final IIP for the council to vote on
Im pretty sure its going to be blast anyway, i just hope that mini game will have only cosmetic impact on Illuvium and Illuvials not like level or economy one
If it will have any
The important thing to remember is that revenues from mini-game and main game, all end up in the vault anyway. either way its going back to the stakers, 100% of it
There's another NFT project where when they had a land sale a lot of the plots were allegedly bought by bots and whales, so most of the community couldn't get anything and there was a major uproar. Like general channel being Twitch levels of rage.
So now they're gonna have another land sale to appease the community, where you now have to submit an application and the devs will choose who gets to buy land based on what you wrote in the application (Questions like what land you want, why you want to play, tell me about yourself, etc).
Just sharing as a cautionary tale, I guess.
That's for sure but i would be worried about balance inside Illuvium if You could boost Your hunter or Illuvials
Ember?
I think
Yeah
All things will be considered. Hurry the mods up so you guys can read the GDD!
@lofty knoll please see @inner topaz's post above
LOL
Its now
Finally I'm on the other side. WEN GDD MODS?!?!?
Alright I'm going to sleep before Rah bans me
Kieran just ramping the community against us while we talk with aaron
Face the hammer
For realises Rah? Which channel?
But I will stress this one point. We should definitely schedule a call for Aaron to properly present it and talk through any questions people have
Yes
I think Kieran meant with the community yeah
So like this weekend maybe
GGD!!!
Let it come.
GDD*
Makes sense to have Aaron explain the vision once for sure, I agree. People will otherwise not be able to grasp everything, at least some. A lot to keep in mind to understand how this COULD tie into the main game and grow further on its own
ok
Deal.
Looking forward to questions from people not even done with their first readthrough. And probably even questions that are answered later in the GDD 😄
this week I had a dream about ILV, where I was visiting the offices. And was given a tour
eventhough there are no offices
Did you send it?
i'm in too deep
Sure hahaha
Aaron said it would be polarising @lofty knoll, we're the council polarised by the GDD?
Thats super easy now, next time we need to vote for @red crater for council because @lofty knoll is not leaking shi.... XD
Yes

Interesting to know, thank you
We dont agree on all points but we will see what you guys think
And we will vote with the community
In my opinion the most important thing about it is that it will keep game balanced
Which only shows a healthy setup, I'd say. Constructive discussions have to be necessary to improve.
most definately in a complex game like this
Ill be 1st to throw a lot in to it because of a degen inside me, but i hope it wont break main game
Can't wait to do some reading lol
Balance and lands are the main points yes hahah
Count down?
Its hard to guess anything but i think that lands would be cool
if You could like farm different skins for illuvials there
Hello wen release??? 🤭
or do anything cosmetic wise so ppl will want to play it
but at very end copetetive game there would be no difference between player who plays mini game 24/7 and other who didnt even try it
Our number one priority has always been balance. So don't worry, we won't implement anything that fucks with that
Go to bed nerd
Anyway. Have fun reading guys. Talk tomorrow 😄
laterz
Just make it so we can farm axies there
so then we can rip some special parts out of their bodies
to attach them in to illuvials
👋
I WANNA READ. where is it? 😁
Send it already my eyes can't wait. 😁
Everytime someone says wen Aaron wait 10 more minutes 
😝
also Rah, hurry up and vote on IIP 006
Yes doing that today no worries ❤
He's a tease 😁
Pedro is waiting for you
Gonna do it now then
TY
You have that new people hired already to create it when it will be accepted ? 😄
Hired two more today 😉 I told you, I'm a recruiter now 😛
Im glad that this new #865961705572794379 channel appeared
At last i know that 3rd Warwick is doing only serious stuff 😄
hahah 😄
Hmmmm.
No.
I'll read it at lunch 😂
gib now. I need something to read while I eat my lunch. now. right now.
Hey peeps
do we know the exact dates for the supply unlocks
bruh
she qute bro good for you
lmao
Seed/Preseed Team march 2022
its slowly vested until march 2023
interesting chaps
go be salty elsewhere lmao
Wtf
good
someone ping me when the GDD hits boys , going couchpotato mode
@humble wave i'm counting on you dawg
Hahahah
Haha. No worries the moment I get my hands on it I'll tag u 😁
I will not blink until I read it 10 times. Me ready. Let it come
kk ty
@red crater come bro it’s here
@plain delta I love You 🙂
Well, Aaron said from the beginning the GDD will be shared. That usually is more than a one-pager 😄
Also, compared to the main-game, I'm pretty sure this is very short.
Ofc but still i didnt expect it to be that big in such a short time
Omw
The main game GDD is... large.
Illuvium zero, literally the opposite of axie infinity...
Haha holy shit. I didn't think about.
It's called zero because it relates to the Zero-Point Forge of the main game.
And it's just a code name originally. But it kinda stuck.
trololol literally 1 min after I left 😄
Dayum it seems like I'll have something awesome to read during my holiday 🔥 
It's nearly 4am here and I just spent a couple hours with the mods and council people going over it. So it was either now or wait until after I sleep.
Thanks for putting out the doc like this, really cool 👌 👏
GOOD NIGHT AARON
Thanks, we appreciate it
@plain delta you are a god thank you
Is there any ETA on the release of the official illuvium game btw? I haven't been following much recently
end of Q4 2021
We are trying to get the Public Beta out in Q4.
Ah ok so probs December
Will there be a land sale for the official illuvium game as well then? (in addition to illuvium: zero)
Public Beta meaning that not all the content will be out, for story reasons, and not all the final features, but you'll be able to keep your stuffs in the public beta.
In the private beta you don't get to keeps.
Gotcha
IF Illuvium: Zero is approved, then it would be the land for Illuvium as well. It's literally on the same planet.
I really wonder what Aaron's IQ is
Although technically inaccessible to the player characters. In this mini game you play as a drone.
Human level.
Ah ok that's sick
Build Singularity Scanner to scan any Illuvial that passes through your Land in order to research and collect them.
very nice idea
This is all so amazing
love how noone is saying shit and just reading the PDF 😄
Max level
It should be a pretty quick read. I honestly didn't spend a whole heap of time on this. The Illuvium game design document is far far more complex, and about 20x longer.
The hard part was finding time outside of my other tasks.
Its amazing
I am getting chills reading it
I will say it was less polarising than I thought. Usually things take time for people to come around to my way of thinking 😛
I have read it and I say 100% AYE
Facts
the big question will be: how will the lands of different tiers be distributed?
trial by combat
New purchaser and staker here guys 🤙
Welcome!
I'm in agreement. Some small stuff needs clarifying but a city building game seems cool. I'm in favour
The GDD mentioned auctions
Probably we would sell land in lots, with some rare and some less rare in each lot.
Hey guys! Have the winners of the Fei airdrop been posted? Thought the drop was on July 20th?
I've put a proposed number of plots in there somewhere, but the numbers are all made up at this stage.
The winners have been announced. I don't know if they have been dispersed.
Same for the Clix.
Just to check @plain delta the GDD mentions nft's being minted on imx, but I assume the whole game is and therefore no gas fees for building clicking etc?
Thanks!! — don’t see them in #airdrops per the announcement so was just curious. Any idea where we can check that out?
Clix hasnt been dispersed yet afaik
Most interactions in the game would not be NFT based interactions.
The land itself, at the start will be probably done on layer 1.
It's a slow purchase, not something that goes back and forth.
If we were to claim resources from a building, would that need gas fees?
The other stuff would be on layer 2 but is more complex to build.
Pinned messages in this channel
No.
Perfect. That's what I'd hoped
At the very least not at the start. It would all be done server side where we use some algorithms to make sure what you have is accurate.
The idea is that the only things that are NFTs are the optional stuff
Blueprints, etc...
But that depends on approval.
Thanks for clarifying

Cant wait to build some stuff
ATH with just the idea would be dope. Wonder what game release would do. Even if shrimps don’t get any lands, the revenue they get from whales would be awesome lol
Shrimps can grow. Maybe one day shrimps can be the whale.
Or should I say Leviathan.
Well I would definitely hope so.
One GIF for every occasion. Well done bro 😁
You dont collect illuvials
If we reached FDV this year that’d be nice
ya, thought so

What's kbm?
It means keyboard mouse 😀
Good day all
mighty good day being in the green 😎
hodl to be independent, financially independently 😄
Hi all...prob been asked but I was on the first long list of winners yesterday..how do I claim - checked pinned and cant see the info
Damn, they are coming\
Any computer tech guy in the crowd ?
Trying to initialise my new computer for 3 hours now
It got stuck?
Hey guys been a while, how come illuvial didnt capitalize on Axie huge trend by having some beta or anything to hook players to this awesome project?
I mean a boring game like DPET did exactly that and now i see 140k+ holders for thier 'just buy egg and feed your pet game'
Man i am even more hyped now about the minigame
what is minigame
This: #🎮〕illuvium-zero message
Mini game itself will be a life changer. It’s quite like some other games but cooler and on blockchain and a real p2e. So whether u play or sit on the side you’ll make money. Who wouldn’t love that?
agree but we could have definitely sacrificed some quality for 50k holders 😆
The team is very meticulous and did not want to show anything they are working on ( in terms of demo/beta ) unless its fully fleshed out.
No sacrificing here. Everything will be top notch
Of course there is some leaks here and there, but the full part is not included
also i went through the mini game a bit fast, interesting stuff i wonder though why pay with ETH for speeding up building instead of ILV
Eth goes to the treasury to buy ILV and distribute to the token holders. Also it’s the main currency
i honestly dont understand this, maybe a bit too much? afterall blockchain games dont have high expectations, ILV obviosuly is way better than example DPET
aha got it
Well this game has very high expectations compared to others
activate !bliz
dang i guess we will not agree on this one but good to hear opinions, for me, i would definitely sacrifice some quality for 50k holders lol its not like you can't upgrade the quality later on
but am proud that i've always shared this project day 1 🙂
Did you see what happened with the first trailer of Halo Infinite?
also i fucked up and sold the dragon for small amount, it was 2 eth i think lol
not the shining top one and not the dark 3rd teir one, i had the second best dragon and sold the NFT back after the IDO lol
ILV is number 4:
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Anymore upcoming games that I should know?
Should I do...
Illuvium is so undervalued
Illuvium gonna kill those corny ass games.
indeed it is
Watching this vid now and honestly it's pretty terrible, just loads of random vids spliced in of people at pc's etc
I would agree 100%. Did you take a look at the comments? People don’t even know what games mean in Crypto
Lmao I thought the same thing.
wsg yall
I think axie and illuvium are going to front run all these games for a long time.
Yes. Indeed it was. But did you see the views? That’s at least a bit of exposure. Although there was no content at all
Yes I agree. Though when you read comments under CoinBurea Axie vid today, lots of people are unhappy about the servers and that they have to pay to get in. For some, it's a fortune.
Yeah, just honestly one of the worst block chain vids I've seen. Don't know how it's done so well! But glad to see illuvium there
@idle terrace not trying to shill Blankos because i got bags, but they have a lot going for them also
Illuvium, GU, BBP i think will be the top contenders in a few months to a year
Yep. There was no content. I was merely interested in comments. Some don't know how games work, some think it'll make u $2 per day. Lol
Axie as well because its appeal to 3rd worlds
Hi, im trying to figure out how to get the list with the top ilv hodlers but i cant find it. is there maybe someone who has a link?
check out the contract on etherscan @summer bobcat
you can filter by top 1k holders in the tabs
ty found it
Oh I fckin love blankos. You’re right. How could I forget.
i guess you cant see the ilv from the people who staked so its not really clear who has a certain amount of ilv
yeah it's a fun game. I cant believe i actually like it haha.
@summer bobcat yea that is true
Also my neighbor Alice might be rly popular too. Not my style of game but it’s already in binance and doing steam early access.
Someone’s got connections lol
TLM also got on Binance and got Fucked big time lol
What’s Tlm?
If Alice can recreate like 1/10th of animal crossing it’ll be a hit lol
Alien World
The moment it got on Binance the chart turned to this:
That shit isn’t even a game lol
*Illuvium 0 gonna kill those corny ass games
Well. Rank 162 while ALICE is 269 😉
good lord man
That was hilarious
What the fuck did I just watch
Ikr. I'm still trying to decipher it lol
And illuvium is like 330 so what
I mean u said it's not even a game. And I said apparently it is. But the dump was due to its TERRIBLE tokenomics. They flushed the market with tokens the moment it got on Binance.
What are the badges on OS for?
Zero will unbalance the market and the main game will come out to balance it 😁
garbage video, but free ad is free ad 
To flame
Yep. That was my thoughts too. I was merely interested in comments
I have 3 badges 😈
I will corner the market on bronze and silver :P
(probably not)
Should I get the badge or just get tokens trying to find more info about the NFTs that are already out in the game
Not sure what flaming does?
the NFTs were just promotional supplement to those who bought in during the Balancer sale
They do nothing for the game?
All of them are cosmetic purposes only
Well the badge is the first achievement in game
Thank you, sounds like I should just get the token or wait for the land sale, is there any others assets available rn for the game?
So if you want all achievements one day, might as well snag one
you dont need tokens to play the game
land sale is different and wouldn't worry about till much later
Good night all. Sweet dreams. 👋
Night buddy
What is gas doing, who’s fault is it
That whale that just bought the plat badge
👀
Dabbled in our staking 3 weeks ago but only with 10 ETH
I'll hold an extra bronze for 7-8 years. Those 'chievement hunters are going to be thirsty by then.
Man I'm going to be rich AF
All the crypto gaming charts are so nice. U can’t lose atm
It’s all about the punk rock mahmu emote.
How will the average person get Land, if ppl keep pushing the price up. Anyone know?
Not sure, I know they want it to be a free market
maybe quantity limitations
or increased supply for lower tier land
Could be alpha in sept
if approved
Pub beta probs Oct-Nov
or a raffle
like Alice project.
then u buy it with whatever.
but I have heard that some sus things happened through launch, not sure if that was land related or token
With Alice u need 50 Alices to go into the draw for land, if u win. You pay the 50 Alices.
I think that majority of the land sale should be free market
at the end of the day ILV stakers will benefit from rev divs
even if they dont get their hands on land right away
A small portion of the land could be raffled off to known/active community members to ensure that smaller fish who love Illuvium get their hands on some land
be good to make the land sale on available to ppl staking.
Yes, I mentioned to Kieran why I think SILV or at least partially should be able to purchase land
Okay Mr money bags, I can't afford emotes 😂
We won't 😂
thats my point. Average joe cant spend 100k on 1 land if its auction. Ppl will go nuts
has to be a system
like a snapshot of who holds illvium and staking
or something
Idk
That won’t stop the price from being what it is though.
Ahhhh I see what you mean :P
As long as people understand that.
Not the way an economy works
you can only prevent the price floor from rising for so long
if there is demand
and perceived value
it will spike anyway
so back to it again. How will the average joe be able to get land
if price is astronomical
IMO not having land isnt the end of the world
think about Axie
Virtual land.
ppl are doing well that just bought axies
It's the wild west. Que sera, sera
Via the free to play game.
I get it. I'm just curious. Trying to make short some ppl dont own all the land.
Is there a plan to sell land on illuvium?
If the fear is “I want to play” don’t worry. You can play.
I am sure other people have similar fears. Once we have more information, we can write a proposal if we disagree with anything in the strategy.
These are the benefits of having a strong DAO
If the fear is “rich people will own the valuable stuff” then the only way to do that is to hand pick people to get stuff for cheap and then let them take profits.
Which would go against the interest of the Dao.
100% agree
free market please, if you think the price is too high or you have better things to buy, dont buy
selling for the highest price is best for the game
maybe not best for those hoping for free $ though
or you could randomly drop the land to all stakers that locked for 1year 🙂
As much as I want the shinies I know you're right.
Whales gon' whale can't stop it :)
It'll generate more interest if a bunch of big players all ape in
I guess we wait and see what goes on. As long as @inner topaz knows how i feel. I dont want only certain number ppl owning all the land.
In the public sale people could buy wherever they wanted. Just like in my proposed land sale. I’m against giving away the land because it goes against the Dao.
yeah i prefer a fair sale
I just feel if its a public event, we would all get screwed here
ive missed out on a bunch of land sales
Just have to bulk up eth holdings now
thats what i mean
you cant get screwed with a legit auction
What does fair mean?
Why? if you hold ILV and are staked
u get Rev Div
how is that screwed
I want to own 1 land it least
fair means whoever wants it the most pays the most
I agree with that.
and the game benefits from that $
You and I shall time share one?
👍
We can do it
I do think that at the floor price, there should be some raffled off to active commuity members and stakers that are locked
if someone wants to buy up all the land, it will cost heaps and its far less likely to get integrated to the main game in future (cause ilv holders will vote on that)
not for free but for something
Maybe we could do that somehow? I mean you can just multi sig it.
110% agree
Lol I was joking 😂
Good idea
You can have multiple people on a deed
I guess we wait
We would have to define active. But I’m ok with a raffle for a small amount.
Ya it would be an extremely small % of total land and a limited rarity
I think Active and Staked could be a good way to define it
I guess we wait
or Active and Holding at least X tokens like what Dennis was saying
@blissful bay we might need to switch the !bliz fxn to a different company LOL
But only 1-3% of all land auctioned would be raffled at a floor price to those people
I also think that there should be a mechanism where the Treasury gets a % of sales in the secondary market for Land
thats fair
Agreed
DAO owned land
could be a good idea
somehow
Switch to Tencent 😉
What is active.
yeah even have some land owned by the dao sorta protects their value into the future
That’s already built in.
I think Active is very open to interpretation, but for example, Joe is someone who I would define as active: he adds value to the community with good ideas, has a financial stake and is engaged in community activities
“Active” opens the door to a lot of complaining ppl truthfully
Ya for sure
Where did u get this info if u dont mind me asking
I just think its worth discussing
mini game channel
ignore active and just use staked
If active is defined that way, we have to vet manually.
Thank you
could do staked quadratic too
Maybe the DAO could have a vote or something
Staked quadratic
in terms of how raffled land is decided
idk
On every person?
almost in all land sales in games. I have lost out within seconds to astronomical bids
No clue just brainstorming haha
or dont do raffle at all
^^ or that
people have to decide if they want to buy ilv or land
just trying to incorporate Dennis' ideas
I dont want flippers just to come here just for the land to end up flipping it x10 or x100
^^ that is inevitable
if its inevitable you should buy
for ppl here
I will try
but in reality price will reflect risk and value
that are active
LOL
What do you think is Active?


