#💬〕general
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it is... looks like people expected more
Yeah I think people were expecting something else, I agree Polygon can onboard their folks to IMX which is good
Can we FUD a bit more first? I'm cold
I'm done watching though
Just stand closer to the trading fees. Theyre going up in flames so that should provide plenty of warmth.
let me know if anything else major
how will polygon and IMX work together?
Depends on the details of this partnership.
So negative
Share coffee machines
Not negative, maybe something else good.. just busy
check the imx announcment on there discord.
its not that long. it looks long but it isn´t
ahhhh
that is bullish
the last part
IMX being used for network fees
tokenomics.
Here’s what’s new
- More volume of games: Immutable and Polygon have one the largest pipeline of web3 games in the industry. This volume of games ultimately accrues to the $IMX token holders’ benefit.
- More rewards: 20% of trades on the Immutable platform, regardless of rollup, must be paid in $IMX. This fee utility will scale significantly as it expands to all new Immutable zkEVM environments and applications.
- More utility: $IMX will be used as the gas for Immutable zkEVM, delivering L1-like utility to the community.
And it doesn’t stop there! Stay tuned…
$IMX will be used as the gas for Immutable zkEVM, delivering L1-like utility to the community. And it doesn’t stop there! Stay tuned
Wait so now everybody is gonna have to have IMX to do transactions? That sounds more like a downgrade than an upgrade.
I'm so confused
Do we get pie?
Its gasless! just pay a network fee in the IMX token instead of gas in ETH. Such innovation!
Word on the street they send 100 milly to Polygon
so no more free transactions? what
only for smart contracts on zkEVM
Lets hope they don't dump it like GME did
I did no research on this, just copy pasta
It says "regardless of rollup" not sure if its just poorly worded or a terrible idea
Thank you ser, the smart contracts is a big thing considering this is where there is no AMM on IMX
yes.
I’m here to be a distraction
such a upgrade
same lol
so no more free transactions on imx?
Well this does solve the problem for getting the FUEL/ETH pools onto L2. so thats something.
only fees for smart contracts on zkEVM.
I need an Andrew explainer video to understand what's happening to immutable please 😅

does it affect me as an illuvium player?
Now you can use smart contracts like uniswap-like AMM without leave IMX.
$ILV 100 by the end of the month 🚀🚀🚀🚀
Yes, you will be happy
This is the one thats confusing me. Sounds like they are gonna force people into using IMX tokens for transactions somehow which sounds like a huge pain in the ass.
- More rewards: 20% of trades on the Immutable platform, regardless of rollup, must be paid in $IMX. This fee utility will scale significantly as it expands to all new Immutable zkEVM environments and applications.
Illuviswap 
which could also enable IMX L2 Staking
nice. Thanks
yes, indeed.
I am waiting dump to 30-40$ to fill my bags in 3-5 days
ILV stake could go to IMX zkEVM now.
I always FUD good projects
You already had that opportunity

illuvium. good words from the stream.
opportunity without means is nothing
I was poor as fuck back then
Ya this is going to white lable the shit out of imx and polygon. I'm thinking of shorting sol lol
Means without opportunity is everything
whos that
You still are
Now I am just liquidity constrained
Its always darkest before dawn
Sell your illuvitars
at least doesnt sound as bad as poor
nope, waiting for everybody to open their alpha disks
you buy them?
But I can't remember those words
then I will sell my unopened ones for 10ETH each
forget. i will not open my ones.
Nope
Brittany B
Me with all the money I made with ILV
The polygon announcement on twitter is much better received by their followers than the IMX fans... is this more of a W for IMX or Polygon?
Honestly my pfp is the one that’s suffering the most rn
They are just happy there is hope for the MATIC bags 
I think it is hard to grasp what smart contracts will mean in reality
true. and does the average gamer care?
no, they prob have 0 clue what this means for them, even web3 gamer
I have no idea
So it must be good
What games are on this polygon?
Pirate Nation 🏴☠️
Fancy birds lol
we can now have staking, DeFi, liquidity pools, etc on IMX
Sadly I know, used to have a flock😬
Please watch your language Fraggy 
yeah, but how will games/imx use them to make life of people better, some direct examples would be good
ILV fuel/eth-pool is the only one I can think of atm
maybe automized buy-in competitions that are trustless due to smart contracts
haha same, I think I still have some one in the Philippines flying my birds lol
staking on IMX also
Wildcard and Apieron are solid games i have actually played
so lower gas fees and it is on l2?
Well that was fun, wen PvP
yeah, move our ILV staked to IMX
Woah. How did you make my PFP move like that?


I dare you 
no mega alphas will be opened
Sweet. News.
my Mega Alpha disk are my hedges against my poor opening standard d1sk lately
yeah
delteed mine xD
I have screenshots
So syntha man says save alpha disks eh
xD
no idea what you talking about
I opened all of mine
smart
illuvitar cards with sticker accessories to place on them?
just the base cards
or stickers sure with them
saw those Illuvitars getting printed on that metal plate, and that someone connected with Illuvium ran that as a business. Does he print any NFT you send him for the right price? If so, what's the website?
^ i saw that too! cant wait to get mine when its working and out
You can't order anything atm
ok, thanks for response
Hype for zk
Hey guys, we are hosting a Web3 conference in Berlin this summer. Whom can I contact about potential event opportunities?
Thank you for your interest in collaborating with Illuvium. To submit a collaboration request, please use the form available on our support page: http://link.illuvium.io/collab.
did something happen with vesting ILV? I had a bunch ready soon but now it's all gone?
or auto-vested or somethign?
Nothing on our end, I can create a support thread for us to look into it
i'll look into it a little more firstr
It should be in the vesting tab
thanx
Make sure you are using the correct wallet
is there a txn history I can see?
vesting tab blank... maybe I drunkenly vested it all and dont' remember
Transaction history would be on etherscan just check by your address
ok thanx!
when are we playing cs
How big is this polygon announcement?
I feel like I'm missing something. Is it the EVM compatibilities that makes it big?
how longs it usually take for funds to deposit to IMX wallet ?
10-12 minutes at the most
ok cool
cheers
If immutable has a zkEVM on polygon, does that mean defi for Illuvium would make sense there?
many people in here own a bag of $ILV during the peak of the bull?
i got my beta key today 🙂
Wen Leaderboard
have you played already 👀
no i will now 🙂
Synix
Hi
We can't reassign keybaord ?
yes? you can ping me if you want some.
no not right now.
you know whats coming next.
That's... Really... You know.
Like unplaybale.
What
Why you guys hate europe and set the townhall to 03:30AM on a thursday? 🥲
i know how you feel. but luckly i have night shift
What about this week showcase?
Well. Lucky you😝
night time in US and morning in AUS i think lol
ya i think its because the most of the councel members are awake this time.
EUR just stuck in the middle lol
the talk about town hall made me think it was wednesday for some reason, i got rugged lol
hey!
?welcome
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Hello fellas,
I am a MOBA lover and I am sure Illuvium's MOBA, if properly designed, will be INSANE.
That is why I have made my own game design proposal.
Please feel free to take a look at it and provide your feedback: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1068171537762500628
The ultimate goal with this 💡〕ideas thread is to collect all the possible feedback from you guys, the community, develop the ultimate MOBA proposal and present it to the game design team.
Will the fuel we generate from land be used when the game goes live or does it reset?
Everything will be reset before we go to the open beta when the blockchain part of the game launches.
i need a mental reset pls
But we will get to keep the land correct?
too late for that, see you on the other side
Yeah if you buy land you own the land. Its just the progress that gets reset so everyone starts fresh and even for open beta.
see you in 2024 ilv at 3k will reset my mental health
gn fam...
price down badly during last few days, anything in particular happening ?
yeah crypto market retracing. it's just a roller coaster ride, up and down
Good evening guys, the official version of the game hasn't come out yet and if it hasn't come out yet, more or less when will it come out?
no date announced
Gm
Hi. This is nice project.
maybe this is off topic but curious, how does immutable X make money if all the transactions on the chain are fee less?
I purchased a disk from the marketplace, in the activity it shows purchased.
But I did not see it in my inventory after 5 mins and clicking on the disk, it still shows that it's owned by the original owner, is that normal or something weird is going on?
Hi i make a bonding of a bandana with a Virtuous Terralynx and it appears as burned both NFTs but the new NFT not appears like a new one.
How long does it take for the eth to arrive on the immutablex account?
Usually less than 10 min
They take a porcentaje on every purchase made. For Illuvium they take 2%
typical time frame for withdrawals to be pending? Thx!
Im not techy and not a dev. But going forward why would anyone join imx? Wouldnt they be best just to join polygon?
I guess my follow up question would be, if polygon fees are cheaper than imx would Illuvium be better off longterm not moving to Polygon and skipping the middle man?
Hey I just withdrew eth from my Imx and it’s been pending for 15 minutes now, does anybody know why?
typically takes 12-24 hours
When open beta?
Oh ok. Thank you for letting me know!
Once its finished you'll see it in the 'ready' submenu and you need to do a TX to claim it to your wallet.
when does the beta start where you keep your blueprints?
hi
At least it is becoming more and more like an active game.
How will imx partnership with polygon affect illuvium?
as long as they dont use zkEVM rollups nothing should be changing
gm
gm
gm
Gm
Gm
Hey everyone, Have we got a solution for unlinking our wallets or resetting passwords on accounts? I am unable to play due to these reasons.
Even the ability to edit the email address would help me resolve it id say but that isnt possible either.
?support team on the website shared below should be able to help resolve some of this
For support, bug reports, and feedback, please use the following methods to contact us:
- Bug reporting: http://link.illuvium.io/bug
- Feedback: http://link.illuvium.io/feedback
- General requests: email us at support@illuvium.io
Ayo! I need help redesigning my small food business. Anyone with interior design experience here?
recall there being a way
if you go to the website, click on play now, click forgot password, also https://play.illuvium.io/support
Immerse yourself into a diverse alien ecosystem. Explore fantastic biomes riddled with extraordinary flora and fauna. Scale misty mountain peaks, cross toxic deserts, and fight your way out of crystal labyrinths. Lift the veil of time and discover the secrets of a fallen world that you now call home.
Sent three emails
Done that about a dozen times but thank you 😊👍
I can still access the beyond hub using my wallet... (1 Rhamphyre left to make a full set 😁 (wave 1 )
but I cannot sign in with the email to play the game
I just pinged you and some team members in a #❓❗〕community-help thread. Hopefully you hear from someone in that thread soon.
?scam all DMs will be scams.
Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.
Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.
Support is not provided via DMs
Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.
I appreciate it thanks mate 🙏
Curious- has anyone got a holo Rhamphyre? does one exist?
Not sure. I’ll try to check the IlluviDex. Maybe someone in #🎮〕illuvium-beyond knows
There are two
I had to use tokentrove to search since I’m on my phone.
ow nice! 🤑🤑
Wow so we could still get a holo goofy and it would be a 1/1
makes me wanna open some more disks 😬
Im assuming both won through mega disks
1 mega and 1 standard i think
1 standard 😮😮😮
Blazing was from a mega and the regular one was from a standard
Wild that the blazing was also an alpha. That might end up being the most sought after Illuvium collectible of all time.
What a score!!! I could imagine the excitement
t5 land get fucking rekt
what is a t5 land ser?
hello .. how do i play ? im new
?welcome
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Additionally, keep up to date by checking out these channels in the Discord:
#✍〕rules
#📣〕announcements
#❓〕faq
#🚰〕leaks
im inside the website but i cant find the game
You can register for the closed beta through this link: https://play.illuvium.io/arena
You can increase your chances of being selected for the closed beta of Illuvium by following these steps:
- Achieve the <@&870923789985271828> (Level 5) status in the server
- Get the <@&969492770102341634> role in #1038034977864032276 and promote Illuvium
- Participate in and win the weekly trivia competition
- Obtain the <@&1059575774589485116> role from Collab.land
You need to get some beta access.
i did register .. still havent received the beta access
So go to #1038034977864032276 and become a twitter raider
Do literally any of those 4 things M0z4rt tells you to do then go to #1075137668821823628 and fill out the form.
It can take 1-5 days and then you get an email so keep an eye out.
can i get the access if i buy land ?
i mean the beta access
i really do wanna play this game
kids are crying like fr
==
Land will get you access to the Illuvium Zero alpha. If you filled the form in #1075137668821823628 youre gonna get access for the Overworld and Arena beta. I dont think buying land makes it any faster cause its just a different form.
meaning i should get the beta access more than the alpha right ?
i cant really understand what my kids are explaining to me about this game
Overworld and arena are the main games and theyre in beta right now. Illuvium Zero is a mobile minigame for holders of the land NFT.
I would assume the kids are talking about the Overworld or Arena beta.
Yeah NP.
The email will come from beta@illuvium.io and itll have a code for you to sign up wiht.
okay thank you .. i will wait
omg just pulled holo grinning slashin
?games there’s a few different ones really
Illuvium is a revolutionary series of games and the world's first Interoperable Blockchain Game universe. Built on the Ethereum blockchain, it offers a unique combination of open-world exploration, creature collection, city-building, auto-battling, and collection card game. Join the adventure to aid your stranded crew by exploring seven epic alien landscapes, conquering a shattered planet, and uncovering the mysteries behind the cataclysmic events that shaped this world.
In Overworld, capture Illuvials, mine resources, harvest exotic plants, and help your crash-landed crew thrive. This is our open-world exploration and creature collection game.
In Arena, create your ultimate team, engage in standardized PvP battles in Ascendant Mode, or survive against predefined waves in Survival Mode in this auto-battler game.
In Zero, build, upgrade, and manage your digital industrial complex. Extract resources, discover biodata, and create blueprints in this city-building game.
In Beyond, compete to collect the most powerful Illuvitars, based on the in-game characters Illuvials, and curate the ultimate Illuvitars Album. This collection card game offers an interactive, competitive, and personal experience for collectors.
Just a match is not enough to light a fire. Need materials. So we are participating here with maximum activity in order to light a fire for our rocket.
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Have you ever had a mate called Mr Jones who was so much better than you at everything that you literally wrote a chart-topping rock song about him?
Cos I'm just saying, it's happened to some person
Yes
Yes
Oh I'm sorry, you've engaged bot mode
Right. Banned.

Right on time
lol been here for like 4h again 
Geez
That battery upgrade is amazing
Hi fraglet I love you
I know
😒
I can easily transfer my love onto someone/anyone else with a moment's notice
No u
Lmk
Gm y'all
Gm
You do that daily already. Stop cheating on Synix
Morning
The language barrier is what makes everything better there
The language wall
The language barrier disappears when Fraggy plays his violin 🎻

You melt my heart every time
All arguments are instantly won by that violin and I'm not even mad
I’m so warm and fuzzy I’d even make you soften
Well that is disappointing 
Sorry he's taken
Hahaha
He was mine first. He’s sloppy seconds now
Nobody owns me
I will have to check the discord account data to verify
Shhh. The girls are fighting over you just sit back and enjoy

He doesn't like anyone or anything at all in the world
He likes to belittle me with violins so I’m happy
- 3 tradies have come here to do work for me in the past 2 days whilst I have been working in a bikini.
I'd just like you to keep that image in mind
We’re they hot or sweaty builders crack showing yobos
They were all universally slightly less gross than me.
Hmmm.
They pretended not to be fazed
I’ve seen your crack so they must have been ok

I'll show you a skin sample.
Slightly less gross than this
I’ve seen your twitter feed
I'm covered in body odor
And no U haven't
Yeh I don’t know how to respond appropriately to that
It's kidnapper repellent
#shower
I think it might work
Where are you going to go when the caravan is done
Come here and I'll give you $50 to finish this
The bank
Only a 60k profit, y'know, so
Why would you use a bank
To rob it?
I'd go withdraw your $50
You’ll need more than $50 to take me to dinner
I don't always commit excellent caravan flips. But when I do, it's bank fraud
I will delete this in 5 seconds ok frag. Here is the caravan rn
I'd like a congratulations cake
Seems a bit bare
The grinder got away on you didn’t it
Actually I did nearly die today from the grinder so I'm not allowed to get another one.
True story. I forgot I was nearly killed this morning. But I was.
Yeh grinders can be tricky little monsters
That's a fucking understatement
My ex husband had a run in with one.
Is that the story you are going with?
It's not good.
Not as bad as chainsaws though
For now
Yes it's worse.
Did I mention the bikini
Ex boyfriend had a run in with one of those
Why did you need 3 tradies when there is no caravan left?
I'm not cheating on my husband
If that's what you're correctly guessing
No I just wondered what they did for their $50
Not much I'll tell ya that
Sad
They never refund call out charges
Lol

Has bigger arms than you
Lmao
You should see the arms @gritty citrus his wife has
Not macro arms?
I’ve seen Josh’s arms
Can't join voice without him showing them
Hahaha.
I really wanted to send you feet picture but I you’ll ban me
I already received feet pics in DMs and I did not ban that person
I keep joking about it, I can't ban somebody when they actually do it 😄
It’s wool not hair thank you
wooly
Are you working today?
When am I not?
I meant rl work not illuvium work
Yes, I am
Well I hope you have a wonderful day.
I hope so too 
I started at 6 am so I’m about to crash
Have a good rest Splendor
Thanks. Catch you tomorrow.
Ok. Sending mine
Yeah I thought I'd test this theory too but can't be bothered working for free
Working in what
Again?
Pretty cheap
Only arab royalty are into it
This is not even CLOSE to being accurate
Where's Aaron
Dont spread false info pls 🔨
Let him work, we need pvp
Don't you start
You obviously don't hang out on twitter
Dont you
No u
Omg.that made my damn day
Np. You owe me 130 ILV now
I honestly don't owe you any more than 100 ILV. Max
Infact I'm not even convinced I owe you any ILV at all
120
Dont you start
No u
U no
Have you ever noticed that grant has never said anything on discord ever in the world full stop
But is permanently online too
It's extremely disappointing
He has a hack to be online 24/7 or something
He used to talk more
Maybe you scared him
"Set Status: Online"
They don't seem like they're used to eccentric girls. I think because they only had brothers
I made a vow to myself not to ask you about showcase this week, but I couldn't.so when Showcase event? @near pier
Sorry
Wen
I don't know anything about Kain except that he looks adopted
Dont be
ahaha I look forward to it
and this show case is a different kind and its special so the time might be adjusted a little
waiting for link confirmation
Are we getting the region reveal from the community goals?

No Europe Rug?🤭
Blog Coming
with lots of info
g
gg
Anyone good with samsung devices?
Nop
will there be another land sale soon or not for a while you think?
I'm relatively new to the community
Gm
good morning
Did someone say PVP?
No
Ok cool
🆒
great entertainment 😄
Do you know what would be even more entertaining?
I know what you thinking about. 
He talks in leaks discussion
That's Right,PVP🥳
Don't get trolled by Crystal 😄
that would be 100% entertainment
I agree
Who will be the first person to battle Lars
Crystal?
Cant help it
Don't think she has a computer that can run the game
So I win?
Lars vs Crystal
Wait
It's done
I would like to report Lars. Thanks
thanks fraggy
I would also like to report someone.
Get in line
What’s all the buzz about pvp? Any news?
Gm

How is going
good. how are you?
Have you heard anything?
👀
Got a good feeling for this week
Seems like he is not going to claim it; you can have it. Gm Remi
Just a little longer 😄
Shanghai upgrade could be very good for the ETH ecosystem.
100%, will pump after upgrade imo
thanks for the financial advice
Only 5 tier 5 alpha holos on the market
May end up being the mighty valuable later on
will be illuvitars playable or just for profile pictures?
GN
No showcase planned this week? Was it replaced by the townhall?
the volume of purchase and sale for the illuvitars has been very low since yesterday
So sad
Pfp sir
Did you expect it to stay frantic indefinitely? I think it was always intended to be a constant slow burn
Thanks buddy, lot of things might be happening in the shadows but without showcase and devlog weeks are long 
Gm
GM
I thought about merch items yesterday, I would like or is there any bracer of illuvium in the pipeline (sport, esthetic, fancy...) ?
Bracer?
Like for archery?
Just think of the stories you’ll be able to tell your kids and grand kids, “papa was there Tommy when Illuvium dethroned pokemon”
"Papa, why does Grandpa never get excited about my birthday?" "Well son, dates don't mean anything to him since Illuvium." 
what game do you mean? Overworld? Arena? or maybe Zero?
all together. this is question for team of illuvium. like why would it work
if you stay respectful you can go for it. no problem.
I dont want to diss anything, just want to hear what i dont understand for now.
This game will be available for free to play right?
T0's only can be captured for free and only T0's will be usable in arena.
What will keep free to play players to play this game's trial for long term? (Getting only T0's sounds like game's trial version)
Usualy free to play players are grinders, that are ready to play for 15h/day to get those higher levels.
In 15h/day T0's will be in full set for them. So as they are full on collectable and leveling stuff, what will keep them?
Also how can they compete in Arena with only T0's? That will be called pay to win if i understand correctly, cause people that pay will be able to get T1-T5, and you can't possibly compete with them on your T0's.
Please proove me wrong by facts guys, waiting for feedback!
As i said, not diss, just curious
The idea is that the gameplay will get these T0 grinders to play the actual paid experience and buy fuel to travel to those regions, there may be an opportunity for them to earn up from T0 regions depending if others value those T0 and someone can sell them to buy the fuel to get into higher regions. This is the allure of the competitive part of arena as well, if they can’t compete because all they have is T0 well they either need to get into higher tier regions or buy higher power Illuvials off market. You don’t have to pay to win though you can grind up from lower stages to higher, but if you are wanting to build your strongest deck possible maybe you do that sooner and buy them
Do T0s have holo forms or no?
Ok. As now i see that they can sell T0's to buy T1-T5's. Doesnt sound possible, as T0's will sell for 1 cent later on (Dont expect demand on them, cause everyone will have them).
So how you expect then for 10y old to have crypto wallet and sell/buy things (You need to be 18+ or to have wallet). or16.. dont remember.
Basicly what i hear is that those Free players wont be able to play for free.
I want to compare with other game like LoL. What free players do, they get attention of players that are ready to invest. There wont be demand if there will be no players. Free players become pay players in time... Like me. I bought my 1st skin in LoL when i was 18..
But i got few of my friends in that game, and they like skins, so they buy atleast few every month.
Main Question: From where will come new players? what will get them to play?
lol is a pay to progress monetization next to the cosmetic one, if you make a new account you need to play a lot or spend money to get every character as well, also it is a moba, not a market economy driven game.
online card games, tcg are more the comparrison for what Illuvium is doing with this at first
Not true. I played since s1. My fav game... had 3 accounts lvl30 (just to play different regions with friends) and my main is maxed out
regarding "f2p", converting time into things that would otherwise cost money in the game
illuvials will have levels, maybe leveling them up and selling them will net you X, we don´t know
so you spend 10+ years to get everything, not 1 week
You want all in 1 week? 1year? I dont want game where i can max in 1 year
any game I can spend money in I have everything in 1 week^^
You mentioned selling. So i need crypto wallet to play. How about kids?
how about kids playing call of duty?
Cant play lol ranked in 1 week
tcgs like pokemon or yugioh are also 12+ or higher
I can buy an account
leveling in season 2-3 also took about 1 day
Again with buying. There was no good answers to my questions
The game needs to be fun. That's where players will come from. People play fun games.
How do you get people to see its fun? You need to have a friend advice you that game
Yeah, and that whole chain starts with a fun game.
you said you want the game to have an option of spending time to earn ingame currency, farming T0 illuvials or items, leveling things to resell, farming holos to sell or similar are those, we don´t know how valuable those will be, if you think 1cent each that is your opinion not reality
I tried to state you the reality that not every game is "f2p" and even the ones that are use pay 2 progress faster as a monetization, which would be similar here regarding you can farm and use a marketplace to trade with others
Damn... Viper, you killing this conversation. Not realy answering. Im out, see ya later, got to drive home. Come with facts please next time
?
Damn it Viper
I guess some people just want to hear they are right
You are right
thanks fraggy
Felt like you needed to hear that
If you're starting with the premise of "How can we ensure children can make money", you're thinking about Illuvium as a vehicle for fiscal gain. It's a different paradigm than making a fun game. Owning assets doesn't need to coorelate to making money for a game to be fun. You can own assets, not make money, and still have fun. For reference, web2 games involve not owning assets, not making money, and still having fun.
Plus, there are custodial wallet solutions where people don't need to KYC or use an exchange. It's still possible to own things without being able to withdraw those things through a CEX. AFAIK no part of having crypto assets in a wallet requires people to be 18+, though that may vary by country.
yeah, we need to enable those child labor gamers from 3rd world countries, so the game can be "true f2p" like some might want :):)
I agree with @tame rapids that we should have a way for F2P players to grind their way up without any money involved at all. Even if it means years. This is so important to avoid any tainting with pay to win, crypto cash grab ...
@alpine trout wanna eat pizza today?
you do see the problems with that and owning assests that are tradeable
if there is a X$ to be made /hour option that doesn´t require skill or earlier investments you will literally outsource to child labor in poor countries
Not only that, the game will be infested with bots.
There are ways to avoid this. I haven't completely thought through everything, but why don't we have a version of Illuvium that is completely free, but you don't own your assets, can't trade, are not on the blockchain but with all Illuvials etc. And then there is the paid for version we currently talk about. Nobody can argue we are pay for win, because you can win in the free version, you just won’t make money from it.
or maybe reward for an achievement like
"collected all T0"
reward: 3x ticket to T1 stage
it is also interesting to note in reginalds logic, that T0 will be worth nothing, but other things should still be obtainable on a similar free basis, because then those would be worth nothing as well following the previous logic of ignoring the time investment part
play 100 hrs
reward: 5 T1 shards (not tradeable)
achievements will small amount of fuel as rewards, they could get small amounts of the various fuels, only takes one hit to get addicted kind of mentality lol
bring it up in ideas, council or so, my take would be it would devalue and undermine everything the game stands for in its concept of being more or less the digital version of what TCGs are
It just came to my mind while reading this discussion. I would need to think more about it.
this f2p mentality is just anti collecting assets, different mentality, different goals
Probably people will bot it anyway and sell the accounts on ebay.
probably
everything "free" will be botted, you could bypass that with making things soulbound, but then you´d still have people botting those to sell the accounts
its really hard to counter bots
but 'free' and having potential to earn sounds good tho it invites lots of players
I realy love some ideas that are starting to come, but please Viper... you still killing conversation
We need players. im not killer here... i own 5 pieces of land, i dont want it to go to 0
well reginald even if you don´t like it not everyone agrees with you or thinks your ideas are valid and to think you are the first to come up with this is quite entertaining in itself, noone ever thought about this before in 2 years of developing a game for sure
i try picking up painfull conversations to make it work
Still sarcasm. killing conversation
dont be rude... i want to understand some things and clear them up
how am I rude? you act as if you know everything better, I give you examples of games and economies, you say those aren´t facts, are you a denying reality if it doesn´t suit you?
I am killing the conversation by giving opposing view points?
if only pvp was available for ppl to go settle their arguments there....
wow. realy? Im out. you are very rude
no reply with any arguments again, nice to see
I am with @warm lantern and @dusty plank when they see Illuvium as a kind of Pocker/Card Game. But I also see the casual or non competitive Pokemon Go player who just wants to have fun, collect cool Illuvials, level them up and not have to think about money at all. We should cater to both and find ways to bring them together. I will write up an idea and hope to get lots of feedback.
yeah make different game modes with (rotating) try out illuvials or similar (this is already planned as far as I know, aka survival arena), but these "let´s change the entire way the game was supposed to be built and work from a market dynamic" points that don´t allow for pointing out the flaws in them do annoy me, because it usually is just on the matter uneducated people wanting to take some moral highground
I don't view it as a poker game, or as a card game really. I'm in the camp of "game first", with ownership. There are some necessary things associated with ownership (such as being mindful of bots), but that's mostly secondary to making the game fun.
I'd rather have a game with 10M players where common assets are worth pennies than a game with 10k players where common assets are worth $100.
I'm pretty against the mentality that everyone will make money by playing the game. I think that's a pretty flawed assumption to start with. Not everyone will make money, and trying to design around that would be a mistake.
Agreed.
Well the good news is this is a totally irrelevant conversation. You can have either a F2P game OR a collectible game with assets that have value. There’s no way to have both.
Illuvium is 2 years into development into a collectible NFT game and there’s no way the team decides to make a random pivot to a F2P game, it just doesn’t make sense.
Hello fellas,
I am a MOBA lover and I am sure Illuvium's MOBA, if properly designed, will be INSANE.
That is why I have made my own game design proposal.
Please feel free to take a look at it and provide your feedback: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1068171537762500628
The ultimate goal with this 💡〕ideas thread is to collect all the possible feedback from you guys, the community, develop the ultimate MOBA proposal and present it to the game design team.
Nobody said this.
what do you guys think about having a battlepass like system that will take atleast 100 hrs to complete, like having 100 waves and sum free rewards like a ticket to t1 stage / fuel / shard
nah, the reginald guy did say this and that he thinks this should be the way and we should only think of how to change to that and anything I said anti that wasn´t fact and killing the conversation
The reason I jumped in was a simple one. We see it as a collectible NFT card game, but the mainstream gamers will call us a cash grab and will avoid us like pest. We need to be prepared to have many reginalds. They see the Overworld, which is not a card game, and see the paid tiers that prevent them from continuing to play.
Sometimes it feels like people think that fortnite is the only game that’s successful and therefore all games must be F2P to be successful. The reality is that MOST games cost money to play. A few people have such a revulsion toward what they call pay to win games but it doesn’t make a ton of sense in this case. Like you gotta pay $60 to play call of duty, does that make it pay to win because you can’t play without buying the game? What if you can buy a deck on the marketplace for $60 and play Illuvium, how is this any different from the upfront cost of playing other games…
Yeh I stopped being a part of chat for that reason. The concerns u have are valid.
The question comes down to: Do we have the same reputation and quality as Call of Duty? We are a nobody in the middle of thousands of good games.
pls enlighten me on how to change from collectible nft game, to f2p only
i personally think illuvium is the same as traditional F2P, just uses nfts to replace the traditional micro transactions
It is a bit more, the most important part being the DAO.
true, but that really just restuctures the corporate side more than the player side imo
stop this negativity.. ffs
lol
Less get it
Are you ok?
wow, that´s very rude
this guy is tilting me
He is making conversation and asking questions to understand your view
all you do is complain
Yes and no, if you e.g. buy land you earn fuel or maybe could have some special voting rights. Corporate and Play merge together in a metaverse.
And you tilt all of us 👀👀
really seems kinda like a pointles argument at this point tho, there are probably alot of mechanic to be implemented that we ourselves are not aware of yet
he cant join normal conversation, just pointing out that all ideas are stupid, and im so stupid i didnt think some1 already asked it
what is thaatt
If you have to insult people, you won't make a point. That's for sure.
i never complained. please quote me
i asked questions
he didnt answer just moved from topics
like child
I did debunk why what you wanted doesn´t work in a reasonable way, you just said I am wrong and am not representing facts when quoting compareable games doing comparable things
Me want pizza too 😦
We can order family size
You also debunk what others said
pls tell me why anything I said was wrong or not on topic?
can we pm?
DM
cause this is childish
Thats the sweetest thing anyone ever said to me
Theres plenty of good games coming of new studios that do great. I would point to Valheim which sold 5 million copies in the first month, or something like Axie Infinity which was extremely expensive to play and still had millions of players.
The reason Illuvium has the f2p T0 component is so that people can get some experience with the game and decide if they like it before they need to spend any money.
yes you are very childish
ffs
Can you both stop pls. You gonna make me overmod and then I get complaints
We are all children 😇
fraggy is here I can´t say out loud what I think
Time to abuse ur powers again 🙈
hey now, im not that old yet
Excuse me?
cant even dm. doing this for show
Probably not a good idea to DM him now. You are already calling him names in public.
Might be better to let it rest for a bit and try again later when you are not worked up
👋 off playing lol
I am not saying that we have no chance. All I am saying is that we need to be careful how Illuvium looks to the outside world. By the way I just read about EVE Online developing a web 3 game. The tide might be changing quickly and we might be able to ride the wave.
The idea that people wont play a game if they cant do it for free just ignores reality... This isnt some shit mobile game for wine moms, gamers WANT a competitive game, and they want to feel like their time playing has value. Illuvium gives both of those things in spades.
im playing Valheim rn
I love valheim
what a cooinky dink
I'm playing Tinder, free and lots of fun
i got banned for cheating on there 😂
nothing is free fraggy, be carefull
U might get catfished
My type is cheap, all good 
if you don´t pay for it, you are the product, stay savu little squizz
Aka Socmeds
i wish i was your product
I'm gonna stop talking about this topic before I get myself in trouble
I think figment needs someone to get in trouble with 😉

how many points to get diamond ?
tks sir
not even if its an AI Bot that does everything you ever dreamed of with the perfect looks to ur liking ?
You said you wouldn't tell anyone
Oh shit my bad, ill go back to my dungeon and sush
I'll be there in 5
Those are some of the different resource sites. Not every land has all of the different resource sites.
LOL
Testing… trying to figure out how to link to event channel?
I hate it when you make sense
Don't be silly, I don't trust anyone
So many posts, what's going on?
anyone try the Diablo4 beta last weekend?
No
I'll have the details updated soon
lol
Damn Lars gonna cry himself to sleep
omg, let us dream...
@near pier Was not going to say PVP, but since you brought it up.have you heard anything?
Better to not get hopes up if not happening lol

I hear things all the time
I have ears
That ship sailed the moment Showcase poped up on the tab
this is sus, think we may have PvP leak this week 👀
LOL
I think you are right👀
man what a privilege, having ears, I can´t relate, pls send me money
totally 👆
You might be on to something
yup, usually Rich is not so defending on this topic
now i got so exited 
When No PVp on friday
Here's hoping🥳
I'll send you a sounds clip with my seed phrase spoken
?scam
good tease
If only this translated to me being any good
nah it translates like always , you losing to me
Don't be so hard on yourself, you only been working here like 1,5 year. At this rate I'm sure you'll be better in 10 years
gorf?
Technically my 1 year Anniversary is coming up
I was told @worldly mist always wins, is that true
Jimbo has literally never won
It already passed didn't it? You got hired before me
I mean internally
Thats the first thing i hear him winning anything
is rich spreading false information? 👀 fraggy pls investigate
That would be over modding, no can do

ah there he goes making me smoke again
all part of my plan
Damn you can afford to smoke? Must be a whale
I had to make a choise smoking or eating.
smoking best diet?
Not eating prolly best diet
ive got mcdonnalds commin in, in like 8mins 😄
AGAIN ?
now I want that as well 
Can't remember last time I had it
mc chicken menu, 2 cheeseburgers, 9 chickennuggies
wow what is that
chilli cheese fries
kapsalon jawull
bless you
Looks disgusting, I want it
with nice cheddar cheese
you should try canadian poutine 😄
looks good 😄
Any idea on when the next dev blog will be?
The real degen food
i didnt choose dis life, dis life chose me
Lucky, I don't have a life
nah this one is hot, real degen is cold
who has money for hot water?
You have water?
mmmm
i want sum real food too
Anyone at NFT LA this week?
I hope so for the hosts
hey so I have a beta code now
but I cant log into my account
regardless of resting my password
it will not seem to login.
Did you create an account at the beta code page? Because I think that’s broken. I can ping you in a private thread with more info if you think that might be the problem
that would help
no i had an account
and even reset the password
to log in
i get the email reset passwords
but doesnt seem to log me in
Trust me, just dont bother. They get all riled when someone has a question about the future of the game
Hi, is there any question you have we can help you with? 
I know better than to ask questions here lol I'll just wait and see .
We are here to help, if you have a question just ask it. Easy to say you don’t get help if you don’t post the question 😉
Never said I dont get help.
Is it a Wen question?😬
Wen Wen question?
Sooner than soon
Showcase announced
3am nice. perfect for my night shift 😄
Hi guys, can't you change the wallet address?
yes. go to illuvidex and account and disconnet wallet.
: d
Sir is the reward from giveaway gleam campaign already distributed or not yet?
ty
Tarren sad, it could take untill end of the month
there will be winnerlist result or not?
maybe @junior blaze knows.
Hmm okay btw thanks, have a great day sir😇
thank you. have a great day too. 
love such nice words
that showcase dont know me very well, headset off....surround sound system on lol
Wen Leaderboard
https://play.illuvium.io/account Why can't you change the wallet?
it's gonna be OK ?
try on illuvidex not on play
I have tried it on the site, but it cannot be changed
so you can´t unlink your wallet?
has to go to illuvidex to do it
me currently trying to tell someone who is hesitant to get into web3 gaming to go get an imx passport and try GU, think i made a new web3 gamer
😀
where it says to use username did u try your email? Because you need to use your email not username
Thanks, it's fixed
Another question, why in the login it often says that you do not have an active beta account
I reported it as a bug, but it still gives this message a lot
lol it wasn't showing for me
not on play site, its only on illuvidex site lol
yeah, its a glitch currently
so hopefully it gets patched
oh right yeah that'd be good dont think itll be around to long the team seems pro active
Ya it's not showing if you login on play.illiuvium.io
but if you login on Illuvidex it shows. I reported it to Rich last week.
Let's go! I've been waiting for this audio showcase. Illuvium sound is next level
Just saw, this is awesome.have been wanting this type for a long time.
Does anyone here run any successful medium pages I could chat with?
So still no pvp or new regions 
Yeah I was starting to worry we weren't getting one. Can't wait
So this Sony patent sounds interesting. Transferring NTFs between games and consoles
Would love to know what they're discussing/planning behind closed doors
I know Rhamphy Medium page. Check it out. @obtuse birch
Thanks, just followed 🙂 looking for some advice on a page I just started
Best think is talking to him.
Just requested
Will Illuvium move to IMX zkEVM?
Interesting, that explains an "IMX is going to use Polygon" comment I saw not long ago.
didn't put those two thoughts together, good comment

Wen Feb dev blog
Ser, we are in March.
Wen pvp
would love to get some more information regarding the treasury and fudns
tough times up ahead for the world economy
funds will be crucial to survive
Treasury wallet is pinned in the #💰〕token channel
ty
do we konw the current burn rate per month ?
no
you gotta get it from a guy called lelahel on twitter
he tracks the monthly wallet outflow
How long does it normally takes to swap SILV2 to ETH on dextools?
It just uses uniswap so depends on how much gas you used but usually pretty quick like less than a minute
Swapped like 5 min ago and still got SILV2 in my MM and also took gas fee…
@near pier any chance we get some comments from the team regarding tresury runway and future funding plans ?
did u check on etherscan to see if its pending or if it failed?
It says successful
i dont see a swap occurring on dextools for that time frame
last one looks like 2 hrs ago
it looks like what u did was sign the transaction to approve it to swap the sILV2, but didnt actually do a swap yet
thats why the gas was only $1.58
Oh got it thanks
how do I turn SILV to ILV
probably swap on a dex, but it wont be one to one
that's the only way? I did staking for a year and am trying to get my investment
the options are claiming as ILV and let it stake for a year or clam sILV2, as sILV2 is not officially swappable at 1:1, it is swappable on secondary market at a different ratio
it is treated as full value of ILV in the ecosystem tho
yeah I'll leave half here and play the game
Guys, does the meta which is for teleport charge itself or do I have to do something special?
Crypton every 24 hours to travel to crimson waste and energy everytime you go back to Santa mesa.
ty
in 1 hr and 23 mins
good morning everyone
can i just wait for the email bypass or do i need to do all the step to get the bypass code ?
you talking about just signing into your account
if thats the case
i have the same problem
and its bug they are working on rn
i registered and followed everything .. but i havent received any bypass code to play the game yet
Did you fill out the form in #1075137668821823628 ? If yes than you should get your code in the next days.
All good. Have fun with it. Login is with your email not your username. 😉
thank youuu
is the overworld and the arena same file ?
i mean do i have to download both arena and overworld ?
Yes all in one
Your welcome.
will join the world in few mins
So is our LP's in jeopardy with SEC being the POS they are with SushiSwap?
?earn
Illuvium offers various ways to participate in the play-to-earn (P2E) economy, including the option to:
- Sell captured Illuvials
- Sell farmed materials
- Sell crafted items
- Earn a portion of the 1 Million ILV reserved for in-game rewards
Please note that while the game itself is free to play, a monetary commitment is required to fully participate in the earning aspect of the economy
There’s not much information about what they are digging after at this point.
But the contract is on ethereum mainnet and I’m not sure how that could come under fire.
I mean look at the precedent the SEC has set. It's war and they are trying to knock down Crypto into the dirt.
I would assume they would be looking for $sushi stakers (or those staking their LP for $sushi)
I dunno. I usually like to side with the benefit of the doubt, but the US Socialist Gov't is the new CCP. They give 0 f*cks and this is just an addition to the witch hunt.
Seems not as likely to be a protocol ban like tornado was. But who knows. I guess we wait and see
The contract is on-chain, the SEC can't control the Eth blockchain. They can limit web-based interaction with the contract, but that doesn't impact the contract itself.
Well my hope is Sushi provides us status and gives opportunity in collaboration with Illuvium to unlock our LP's and remove (or transfer) funds. Sorry, I've no desire to even presumably FUD. @dusty plank What does that matter? I mean Tornado Cash was destroyed essentially.
This isn't legal advice, but tornado cash still exists, it just can't be legally used by U.S. users. The front-end (website) got taken down, but again, the government can't take a contract off the blockchain.
This gif makes me more nervous than it used to
lol
Right, but didn't OFAC null your assets based on address interactions with Tornado Cash?
OFAC doesn't have the power to null assets on Ethereum. Centralized entities (ex. Circle) are able to freeze assets (i.e. stop redemption of things like USDC for USD), but no one has control over your crypto except you, if you're self-custodying.
OFAC could also order exchanges to block wallets that had transacted with something like Tornado Cash. That's patently different than actually removing assets from the blockchain though.
I'll mention again that none of this is legal advice, I don't live in the U.S. and I'm not a lawyer. This is just my understanding of how decentralized protocols work.



