💬〕general

[zenith fable]

If he is referring to the cinematic trailer with 1million + views (not illuvitars although they prob did that one too)

[primal zephyr]

yeah I'm talking about the one with over a million views

They did a really good job,just want to figure out who did it because I have some work for them haha

[timid timber]

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One message removed from a suspended account.

[primal zephyr]

who is shapeshifters

[lusty mantle]

The guys who made the trailer afaik

[primal zephyr]

okay cool,is he in this server or does he have a website?Thanks for answering my questions bro

[lusty mantle]

No idea, sorry

[languid silo]

iam going to watch Kieran school Wagner and win Trivia master in the same day?what a day this will be

[lusty mantle]

I'll try to be here for both and watch it happen

[lusty citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-atlas-fimbul-fimbul-airbike-homer-fimbul-homer-airbike-gif-24736331

Kieran Be like

[tulip zinc]

Any rough date when revdis finishes?

[vernal minnow]

How about a new roadmap on the estimated quarter?

[lusty mantle]

Can I do it

[pseudo flint]

when one is available it will be announced . If nothing appears in #📣〕announcements there is no new information available

[normal python]

What was the disagreement that lead to this debate taking place today?

[sage falcon]

they were both arguing over who will have the more delays for release

[normal python]

Ah ok, thanks. Should be an entertaining watch then.

[crystal valley]

In leaks, it says 2nd most transparent, who is #1?

[normal python]

Star Atlas of course

[crystal valley]

Oh ye, the 1v1 debate

[normal python]

Tbf I'm not in their discord so I've no idea what it's like over in Star Atlas. Maybe they are really transparent 🤷‍♂️

[kindred badger]

How delayed is Star Atlas at this point?

[lusty mantle]

I don't think they are delayed. I believe somebody said it's on the roadmap it will take 7 years to deploy.

[kindred badger]

7 years wtf

[lusty mantle]

Good things take time? 🤷‍♀️

[kindred badger]

And people are actually spending money on something so far away from release?

[junior blaze]

we were in a bull market, people weren't thinking straight hahaha

[meager slate]

There’s nothing in life I’m dedicated that long for without results

[kindred badger]

hahaha

[lusty mantle]

I mean, we are also spending money on Illuvium for the next 25 years? 😄

[kindred badger]

Are we?

[normal python]

It takes 7 years for every cell in your body to be replaced. You'd literally not be the same person by the time star atlas is released 😱

[lusty mantle]

So you are completely ready for it

[meager slate]

Getting major results along the way though

[royal saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duck-dance-subaru-subaru-duck-dance-hey-ya-gif-21217404

[normal python]

Randomly listening to Fast lane by Bad Meets Evil. This gif fits surprisingly well 😆

[timber torrent]

im interested to see how it plays out and to see how long it take before they drop their shorts and shouts mines bigger than yours .........lol

[royal saffron]

I am listening to hard core hip hop, it fits well as well

[mighty silo]

Is Aaron okay? Haven't been in DC for a long time

[lusty mantle]

hard core hip hop?

[royal saffron]

yas queen

[lusty mantle]

Not in the public channels 😉

[hardy pawn]

Hey guys, do you think many people are really keen on buying illuvitars after buying IZ land 7 odd weeks ago but still no alpha in sight?

[languid silo]

Just the fact that star Atlas is built on Solana that they can turn on and off when they need,is a red flag.
It might be an awesome game when it comes out in 2030.

[kindred badger]

Good point

[valid charm]

It is a bit weird, but let's not bash other web3 games too much. All positive news concerning the space is good

[languid silo]

Imagine of Ethereum went down and Vitalik had to turn the blockchain on and off to get it started again😬

[kindred badger]

Isn't there going to be a debate where they will literally be bashing each others games?

[languid silo]

Iam not bashing star atlas,i just dont like Solana

[lusty mantle]

I rather have him turn it off and on again

[crystal valley]

He can't do that with proof of work, but proof of stake, anything is possible

[valid charm]

Will probably not be about the game, but more around the people tbh :p

[lusty mantle]

We will know in 7h

[timber torrent]

these things tend to end up being a kiss and make up kinda thing ....sort of we will see

[kindred badger]

boo

i want fireworks

[covert violet]

yes there will be fireworks. Apparently Kieran has proof that SA is a scam

[kindred badger]

oh shit?

[timber torrent]

but if they want grant super ship in their fleet they better pay up big time .....lol

[languid silo]

Lol,No

[kindred badger]

I dont know much about Star Atlas at all

[lusty mantle]

I'm gonna be honest

[royal saffron]

please

[lusty mantle]

I hope they get him mad and he leaks some stuff he shouldn't, only reason I'll be watching

[kindred badger]

hahaha

[royal saffron]

I mean he is the leaky faucet... what ever that means

[languid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-parks-and-recreation-chris-pratt-amused-woah-gif-7644619

[valid charm]

evil genius you

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/plan-planning-evil-grin-gif-12457256

Could be bad for the mods

Kieran saying "X is launching in Y days"

Prepare that soon GIF

[valid charm]

Oh dear god, not this again :p

[lusty mantle]

Anyone reading this AMA's are not official timelines

[kindred badger]

Fraggy is leaking that Kieran is going to leak release dates

[near pier]

Wut

Fraggy

[valid charm]

Richieeeeeeee

[lusty mantle]

Fraggy wouldn't know about that

[near pier]

I have question

[lusty mantle]

No

[valid charm]

cold

[kindred badger]

You heard it here first from Fraggy

everyone tune in

[near pier]

Can I go to sleep

[valid charm]

yes, sleep

[lusty mantle]

Yes, and don't come back

[valid charm]

July is almost over, back to ruling the lands

[lusty mantle]

Omg, I need to join this server

[lusty mantle]

@ashen dagger can you add this sticker?

[junior gyro]

Man that hair is on point for keiran

[kindred badger]

Better show up with that hair for the debate

Think how intimidated the other guy will be

[lusty mantle]

Hahahaha I would love that

[timber torrent]

why did the team tools down for 4 days ......"conspiracy" theories acepted ...lol

[kindred badger]

They all had monkey pox

[lusty mantle]

Maybe if we ask nice, @sudden dawn can add a wig to the next shipment he sends to Karen

[timber torrent]

not possible they are australian men

[lusty mantle]

Because they earned it?,

[valid charm]

calm before the storm

[timber torrent]

exatly my thoughts

[lusty mantle]

Don't torture yourself with hopium

[kindred badger]

Confirmed leak of PB2 releasing this weekend

Thanks

[sudden dawn]

sounds like a plan

[valid charm]

for the record, we always have the same info as you guys :p

[kindred badger]

Sure.....

[royal saffron]

oh yeah? I got info about the moon landing

[lusty mantle]

It's true

[valid charm]

yup Smurf

[kindred badger]

A lot of backtracking is what that sounds like

https://tenor.com/view/drought-faucet-got-no-water-water-drop-strange-days-gif-14579808

[lusty mantle]

Maybe Fraggy sometimes knows too much 😏

Go to bed Rich

[kindred badger]

Quicker Rich goes to bed quicker we get more leaks

[junior gyro]

LOL

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/its-bbq-nicolas-cage-con-air-gif-13240747

[junior blaze]

FRAGGY KNOWS DATES!

WEN WEN WEN?!

[kindred badger]

We'll make her talk

[lusty mantle]

I only date for free dinner

[barren mist]

Hi guys I haven’t been updated for almost a year. But I’m back! Where are we at with road maps and deadlines?

Or what’s exciting and upcoming?

[junior blaze]

I'd say check my last video as this is exactly what I cover!

[lusty mantle]

You can check the medium blog, I believe it's posted in #📣〕announcements

[junior blaze]

hard to type it all with mad details in discord haha

[barren mist]

Anything simple you guys can say in a few sentences? I don’t really need the essays or development updates. I’m more a gamer and only invested in 2 ilv. Not intending to spend too much time

Is it like something going to launch soon or still waiting for announcements?

[junior blaze]

PB 2 Arena - Illuvitars - PB 2 Overworld - IZ Alpha

that's the rough order

[barren mist]

Anything launching with a date?

[junior blaze]

no official dates

[barren mist]

Ah got it thanks. Anything actually launching with a date?

Oooo ok thanks that was helpful Imma find you on YouTube too bro thanks for being here

[junior blaze]

that's all g man!

[normal python]

Maintenance trait level maxed on illuvium dating sim

[barren mist]

Dropped your Channel a sub too

[lusty mantle]

Aaron needed me to test HA

[junior blaze]

appreciate it! Legit just said it cause my last video directly answered your question haha

[young bone]

Hey illuvium family 😁

[junior blaze]

TELOOLAH!

what's goood? 😄

[fresh birch]

gas is so cheap, great time for transactions

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/tallulah-name-heart-gif-13395125

[timber torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/europe-final-countdown-1986-rock-gif-16032925

Kirean is on raw meat abd beer for the next 7 hrs or so

gonna watch a twitch

[lusty mantle]

What / who will you be watching

[timber torrent]

Shabin

[lusty mantle]

I'll see if I can get this done and also open it in 10 min

[young bone]

Naaawwwwwwwwww

[young bone]

Love you Fraggy 😁

[timber torrent]

think Shabim needs a new pc he has way to many crash's

[lusty mantle]

Yeah that potato is totally overcooked by now

[royal saffron]

my pc is 1 month old

its as new as they come

[lusty mantle]

Why didn't you buy a good one?

[royal saffron]

but.. but.. i did

[long bluff]

Helloo all!

[zinc arch]

I had 3 crashed on 3 runs today with a 3080ti. Don’t think hardware is the factor here. 😅 also no other programs open

[long bluff]

Finally I joined this discord, after holding ILV for more than a year 😅

[lusty mantle]

Nice to have you here

[long bluff]

thank you

[zinc arch]

Welcome. Check out #💖〕positive-vibes

[lusty mantle]

Let's hope the update solves this issue for you

[long bluff]

any tips as to how I should put my ILV to use?

[lusty mantle]

Stake it 🤷‍♀️

[tidal garnet]

ILV is not needed for gameplay in any way. Instead, it has three main functions:

Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals and electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.

Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV (or sILV). Additional ILV will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.

Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available from sales once the game and Illuvidex launch.

[royal saffron]

you held ilv for a year and did not stake it? gasp

[zinc arch]

I usually don’t have crashes, so not complaining. 😊

[long bluff]

right...

[lusty mantle]

Oh no 👀

[zinc arch]

Oh 😨

[long bluff]

how and where?

[zinc arch]

#🔗〕helpful-links

[long bluff]

thanks

[zinc arch]

It’s just on their website

[long bluff]

ok, getting on this right now

[lusty mantle]

Rofl loving the vibe

[tender kraken]

Ouch. 🙁

[dawn haven]

hey guys! is there already a timeline for when the first illuvitars can be bought?

[lusty mantle]

Not yet, keep an eye on #📣〕announcements

[dawn haven]

ok thx

[stuck bridge]

im excited for the star atlas exposed tonight 🥳

[lusty mantle]

What is it now, 4,5h to go?

[stuck bridge]

Yes almost exactly 4.5h to go

need to bring ppl over to the correct ship

[sage falcon]

Hey guys, whats up!

[lusty mantle]

Hey @sage falcon welcome to the Illuvicord

[tropic cipher]

Imagine buying 1year ago at balancer sale, not stake it, sell at 1800$, and buy all back at 100 today 😄

[sage falcon]

THanks captain😁 !

[merry ocean]

Hi @lusty mantle can you please tell what's the best/savest pool to provide liquidity uniswap or sushiswap....can you motivate ??

Or anyone else ??

[lusty mantle]

Official pool is on sushi

[ashen dagger]

Lmao if you remind me tonight I will add it

[merry ocean]

Does that mean uni is a fraude ?

[lusty mantle]

No, it's just a community made pool and not the staking pool

[merry ocean]

I just try to learn something...cause on difi lama uniswap tvl is much bigger

As is apy

[hybrid imp]

I loved this interview [The Art of Illuvitars (w/ Rogier Lead Concept Artist)] with Andrew and Rogier and agree there should be more art video's as they are amazing to watch. Also looking forward to the interview with Andrew and Kieran about an in depth look into illuvitars. 😍

[terse ivy]

Guys, hi! I received drop tokens IMX and how can I withdraw them from the immutable X wallet to the Metamask wallet?

[lusty mantle]

Better to ask this in the IMX discord

[lusty mantle]

That would be quite impressive but hard to buy bottom and sell top

[crystal valley]

Imagine mining btc in 2010

[lusty mantle]

Imagine living in the present

[tame rapids]

people that get fast money are not happy after few years

[tender kraken]

I joined a mining pool a long time ago. Started it going, waited for an hour, didn’t get a Bitcoin so I lost interest. Heh. Oh well nevermind. 😆

[unreal jay]

I would rather cry in my lambo instead of my opel corsa

[tender kraken]

Until your lambo gets repossessed, then you are crying on the side of the road.

[unreal jay]

but to be honest, I am more excited about the game itsself than making money with it. Thats just a bonus

[old tendon]

when debate?

[humble trail]

3:15 from now

[old tendon]

noice, where can we watch it

[humble trail]

Check the events at the top of the channel list

https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1000074426190147675

[obtuse birch]

Almost debate time let’s go!

[opaque wagon]

hey guys. do we actually know if we will be running around in openworld looking for illuvials yet? i somehow heard the catching of illuvials will happen during battle

then i heard from the concept art videos that we will be running around looking for illuvials

[obtuse birch]

You run around in the Overworld, find an orb, shoot it, then enter a battle situation.

[humble trail]

It is similar to Pokemon really

[opaque wagon]

ah yea that make sense. so we will not be seeing cool illuvials walking around

what if 2 person shot the orb at the same time

haha

[humble trail]

They intend for that to be the end-game product but there likely will not be multiplayer for the overworld runs

[opaque wagon]

ah theres not? i thought it'll be multiplayer

[obtuse birch]

Maybe one day but not to start

[humble trail]

The overworld runs, where you catch illuvials may just remain like this, but they do want raids happening at some point. I just dont think the card packs can be done as a raid or they will have to throw the autobattler out of the window for it. And then what remains 👀
So maybe we will see Overworld Version 2 where you can hunt illuvials for items with a group 🤷‍♂️

Going to an arena for E-sports wíll have the poyential to be multiplayer. so we will have get-together hubs but the runs for cards will be single player until further notice.

[timber torrent]

not sure if Im gonna beable to stay up for the big fight ....im sleepy already.....i always try to catch the new wave early best chance of leader baord 😉

[obtuse birch]

I’ll have a write up on the action if you miss it.

[humble trail]

We can always count on you

[opaque wagon]

yea down the road perhaps. no dramas. i just thought that there will be a bunch of us exploring is all. thanks for the info

[timber torrent]

If I do make it I'll be in my boxers 😉

[humble trail]

Yeah all good :D I think we are all excited to slay those giant hovercraft-snails in Brightland steppes :D

[opaque wagon]

how about IZ? im guessing that they will be separate? or we can actually walk pass our lands and stuff. not sure how is that gonna work

[humble trail]

IZ will be ón the planet but in the near future will not be accessible to run around on so on the same continent but separate and unable to be accessed.

But since it is on the planet of Illuvium there is an intention of being able to run around on your facility at a later date. May be years out though :)

[opaque wagon]

yea sounds like some hefty work. the promo video of the ranger running around harvesting. i thought those might be harvesting land elements and stuff

gonna be picking up a land nonetheless. still trying to decide if its gonna be taiga boreal or halcyon sea. tough choice

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/bbeach-day-chilling-dogs-tanning-gif-14757519

[vale arch]

Just watched Grants last interview with Volkin . Well worth a look !!

[humble trail]

The resource rocks that she was scanning were either ore fragments for equipment + raw shards (and other?), or items from plants that could likely be used as consumables? or ?other?. (that's the most we can speculate on)

There should not be resources that you have to send from Illuvium Overworld to IZ.

[snow oar]

Good evening all

[cursive sphinx]

gm

[humble trail]

You ready for the Debate in 3 hours!?

[cursive sphinx]

no one streaming pb1 rn?

[snow oar]

Later

[royal saffron]

I am taking a lunch break, ill stream later

[deep forge]

Oh yeah, looking forward to it!

[vale arch]

I am loving the physics / lore / details that are being spoken about! Reminds me of the black hole creation and art in interstellar movie ! 🙌🏽👏🏼🫶🏽🎆🌌🚀

[sturdy sandal]

Yes!

[open leaf]

hey guys

how is everyone doing?

[tame rapids]

life is good. nice weather. i thank person who invented AC

[boreal gale]

This will be fun, I'm invested in both kek.

[lusty mantle]

If you have one 😄

[open leaf]

pumped for this debate. Kieran will bring the hype 😄

[tender kraken]

I’m guessing it’s going to be a straight forward civil chat. It really shouldn’t be that dramatic. A simple discussion of how transparent developers should be when looking for money from retail investors. I doubt there will be any ‘hype’.

[valid charm]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-all-board-da-hype-train-hype-train-train-hype-gif-17722508

[boreal gale]

That film made me ponder some really interesting subjects.

[boreal gale]

Thanks for the heads up I'll go do that now to kill time for the debate.

[lusty mantle]

2h to go

[timber torrent]

Here's hoping K doesnt drop his shorts but does drop some iluvium Alpha 🙏

[open leaf]

oh for sure it will be a civil chat, but it's Kieran were talking about, he'll always bring the hype! Find me one yt vid of him when he doesnt! 😄

[timber torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/mrdeeds-beers-ill-bring-the-gif-18538767

[novel egret]

Greetings community 🙏

Never been here before.

[lusty mantle]

!welcome

[tidal garnet]

Welcome! Wondering where to get started?

The #🔗〕helpful-links and #814084157713940482 sections have everything you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information.

Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date:

#✍〕rules
#📣〕announcements
#❓〕faq
#🚰〕leaks

[novel egret]

So when I think Illuvium. Should I think Pokémon? Or Jade Cocoon? Or Monster Hunter? Or what 🤔

What do the mechanics resemble 🤔

[quick spindle]

You've got the collecting aspect of Pokemon, for sure. But exploring the regions and capturing Illuvials is in a huge 3D world with much verticality in exploring (using mag boots and jetpacks). And then the battle gameplay is in an autobattler format, similar to Teamfight Tactics. ⤵️

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium is a collectible NFT RPG game, and auto-battler rolled into one. There is an open-world RPG experience in the overworld, where you mine, harvest, capture, and fight Illuvials.

Once you have assembled your team, you can join the fray in the auto battler, where you strategically build your teams to beat your opponents in battle. The Illuvials possess unique stats, classes, and affinities. Your team's synergy—based on how you match their strengths and compensate for weaknesses—could mean a winning streak for you.

[novel egret]

Cool! What is an auto battler?

Things happen on their own?

[lusty mantle]

Hop on voice chat, I'll show you

[novel egret]

About to walk into my office. I’ll definitely hop on later 🙏

[sage falcon]

anyone excited for this upcoming debate?

[novel egret]

That’s how I got here 😅

[quick spindle]

Correct. You place your Illuvials on the battle board and the battle plays out. Much strategy involved in the placements you do compared to your opponent.

The team has mentioned wanting to bring fights into the overworld in the future once all of the regions are completed... making it similar to the mechanics of Monster Hunter (with multiplayer fights too!)

[sage falcon]

who do you want to win?

[novel egret]

The debate made me go, what is Illuvium 🤔

[novel egret]

I’m from the Star Atlas community and am just now learning about Illuvium so that would be my answer 😂

[sage falcon]

how long have you been following Star Atlas?

[novel egret]

Definitely not a hater on you guys don’t know anything about you.

Just learning.

[near pier]

Gm

[sage falcon]

yeah its all good fun, but we flex hard

[lusty mantle]

Morning Richy

[sage falcon]

GM

[near pier]

Welcome m8

[novel egret]

Pretty long time. Only started buying stuff recently. So I missed a lot of the crypto dump.

[quick spindle]

Very nice-- I really appreciate you tapping into that curiosity and coming over to ask some questions... in a respectful manner too. Feel free to ask more questions as you think of them! And yeah, check out the Whitepaper when you get the chance

[novel egret]

Thank you my friend 🙏

[quick spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-23069193

[novel egret]

Haha, Dick Kingz! We met the other day 😂🙏

I was telling you about foundation room 😁👍

[lusty mantle]

A name you can't forget

[novel egret]

Definitely can’t 😂

[near pier]

Yup we did

[sterile mauve]

hey i want to add liquidity with ILV and ETH but i kinda cant find where

is it not uniswap

[lusty mantle]

Link to the pool is in #🔗〕helpful-links

[languid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-welcome-dr-evil-come-gif-17033528

[solar oyster]

not long till debate!

[quick spindle]

It would be on SushiSwap, my friend!

[novel egret]

Thank you my friend 🙏

[raven anvil]

Come join me in the debate chat guys

[lusty mantle]

Still 1h15 😅

[quick spindle]

Guess it's never too early to bring the hype

[lusty mantle]

So, you joined?

[quick spindle]

[lusty mantle]

Wait, where is it 😄

[quick spindle]

I'm not actually chatting, but I have the stream/chat opened already... because otherwise I could miss it LOL

[quick spindle]

#🔗〕helpful-links

[wispy kindle]

GM good people of the shire 👋

[royal saffron]

did you just call me a hobbit

[hybrid imp]

GM 😎

[raven anvil]

Yeah but I’m still in there. Whoever runs the Illuvium YouTube is there too. It’s Andrew, right?

[wispy kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hobbit-gif-9317636

[rose ice]

gm team

can you stick?

[near pier]

Stick what

[remote cedar]

if someone misbehaves they get the stick

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-levine-embarrassed-the-voice-shy-gif-11625795

[lusty mantle]

Somebody called for a stick? 👀

https://tenor.com/view/tumtum-mikvr-froge-stick-beating-gif-18299903

[tame rapids]

timezones are fked up. it starts in 40 min? debate i mean

[floral gate]

good luck @inner topaz for the debate soon, we are rooting for you!

[lusty mantle]

Correct

[tame rapids]

cause my pc is 1h back from zone im in, and on there it shows it starts 4pm gtm+2. which would be 20 min ago 😄

[near pier]

Fix that time bruh

[vale arch]

I don’t know too much about arguing / debating…but I do know that it can pay to allow the other guy to go 1st and lay al his cards on the table…I think it was Nelson Mandela who said “Good leaders talk last”…

But yeh, im probably wrong lol .

[lusty mantle]

No idea what to expect from this

[royal saffron]

Kieran will do Kieran things

its pretty easy to guess

[lusty mantle]

First time I'll watch Cagy

[vale arch]

I hear Cagy is quite the Master-Debater…🤨😁🫣🫢

Sorry . I’ll give myself a yellow card

[alpine eagle]

can anyone help with staking LP tokens or point me to some info on that? Would i create LP tokens and then stake them effectively getting double rewards?

[lusty mantle]

!staking

[tidal garnet]

When holding ILV, staking is a way to gain additional rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution. The process for staking is the following:

• Acquire either ILV or Sushi LP tokens.
• Go to the official Staking App.
• Enter the right pool according to the tokens you acquired.
• Decide your lock duration. The longer the lock, the higher the weight.
• After approving the contract, confirm the staking of the desired tokens.

[lusty mantle]

!lp

[tidal garnet]

Providing liquidity is done via an ILV/ETH Pool on SushiSwap and requires multiple steps:

1. Buy ILV and ETH
2. After approving the Sushi contract you stake a 50/50 value ratio of ETH and ILV
3. You receive SLP tokens. (To see them, add the SLP contract address to your wallet)
4. Stake the SLP tokens through the Illuvium Staking App and set your lock period.

See #🔗〕helpful-links for official links.

[alpine eagle]

perfect! thanks so much

[thin elbow]

What is this work/claim thing for in bot commands?

[lethal frost]

hello, is there confirmation on what tokens/crypto can be used to buy iliuvitars? ETH exclusively or SILV2 included?

[lusty mantle]

Something we don't use here

[lusty mantle]

To be 100% sure, you'll have to wait for the new IIP

[thin elbow]

Mhkay... Why people do it then? 🤔

[lusty mantle]

I ask myself that question every day about humans 😉

[thin elbow]

😂 true... Bit still have faith to get an answer once

[abstract sparrow]

hi where will be the debate held?

[limpid cave]

Hello all! Do you know some forums to read Illuvium Beta player's feedback?

[near pier]

Yes we do

[near pier]

This guy @steady iris loves it

As do we but hes sorting most of it now

[lusty mantle]

Seems like it's on Cagy YT channel

[timber torrent]

also on twitch

[near pier]

We have a watch party on our twitch

[lusty mantle]

Ah ok, I'll move there then

[near pier]

https://discord.gg/illuvium?event=1000074426190147675

[near pier]

I swapped link yesterday

[dense granite]

https://c.tenor.com/uM-w7nq4kLgAAAAM/party-time-dancing.gif

[near pier]

Andrew is gonna keep score lol

[limpid cave]

Thats awesome, could you help me with the link?

[near pier]

play.illuvium.io

[eternal yoke]

Watching now….fire

[oak fulcrum]

t-4 , enjoy lads

[sonic dagger]

twitch @everyone

[wispy kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-changing-the-clock-changing-the-time-kitty-cat-cute-gif-17202806

[agile tapir]

Happening already

tune in

[valid charm]

hope it doesn't turn in mud throw

[sonic dagger]

so far civil

two CEO shilling

still waiting for f bomb

wagner looks built

[limpid cave]

Thanks for your help Rich! It must be a tab just for beta players. I can't even see it yet 😉

[kindred blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-thinking-about-you-think-thinking-of-you-gif-20503421

[dense granite]

The host is annoying...

[lusty mantle]

Yes

[worldly mist]

Dude this guy is a little full of himself

[near pier]

Built to be KOd

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[sonic dagger]

cagy is a lil sht

[lusty mantle]

Let's stay civil

[zenith fable]

Completely forgot the stream was going on lol, just joined

[lusty mantle]

No wall climbing for now

[zenith fable]

Wagner's secret weapon - Arthur

[sonic dagger]

im getting sleepy

can we have some cheerleader

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-cheerleader-funny-cat-gif-13604243

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/icewyte-cheerleader-tiktok-dancing-twitch-gif-20629032

not me

[near pier]

sure

seems to fit

[dense granite]

Kieran smugged...

[vale arch]

4 Devs lol

[sonic dagger]

kek

[zenith fable]

I respect Michael for going on the video call and having this talk

[sonic dagger]

start selling

[near pier]

Totally

[sonic dagger]

4 devs
sell signal

[lapis crag]

When Kieran heard the number of engineers

[near pier]

Mini stroke

[lusty mantle]

LOL

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-four-singer-fabulous-gif-5467410

[near pier]

lol

best thing you ever posted @sonic dagger

[stuck bridge]

The host sounds like he is paid by star atlas

[sonic dagger]

he is paid by SA and ILV

[stuck bridge]

ahh true

[vale arch]

https://tenor.com/view/theojames-actor-handsome-divergent-four-gif-20397648

[dense granite]

LOL free zoom

[lapis crag]

And Wax lmao

[lusty mantle]

Look at Cagy panic buy zoom

[old citrus]

This debate seems very restrained so far 🫣

[dense granite]

The debate will be stopped abruptly in about 10 mins

[lusty mantle]

He is about to pull out his credit card

[lapis smelt]

This is the dude lmao, found on his twitter

[dense granite]

Bathroom break soon

[lapis smelt]

Wtf is this

[vale arch]

Omg

[near pier]

no one wants to see that

[lapis smelt]

My bad I couldn't resist 😬

[lusty mantle]

Called it

[sonic dagger]

zoom shares stonk

[lusty mantle]

People donating money to him hahahaha

[hard trellis]

Haha this shit is hilarious - honestly prob a waste of time. But I think it fires up Kieran hahaha

[sonic dagger]

pro tips : buy zoom

its cheap

pro tip : dnt use google meet

or teams meeting

[lapis crag]

https://clips.twitch.tv/BoringResilientEyeballEleGiggle-Va2p7OFU7PnHzxrR

[sonic dagger]

teams meeting is a rug

[humble trail]

ah the payment went through I guess? Cagy looks a lot more comfortable

[somber light]

kieran is just waiting to pounce

he's so trying his best to hold back

[agile tapir]

Cagy isnt biased. yup. not all 😛

[worldly mist]

Cagy got that star atlas check come through

[sterile mauve]

thanks did it 🙂

[lusty mantle]

Had to use half of it for zoom

[dense granite]

Hate Cagy

Totally not biased

[vale arch]

Is Cagy 12?

[abstract sparrow]

yeah why is this kid even moderating

[somber light]

wtf with the dap

[lusty mantle]

Can't even hide who he is rooting for

[tame rapids]

i want to get now on star atlas discord to check how active they are

[dense granite]

It's getting savage now

[agile tapir]

Kieran is winding up

[lusty mantle]

Leaks should be coming

[dense granite]

Michael changing the topic too lol

[old citrus]

It took a few minutes and a bit of provocation 🫢

[agile tapir]

oooooh! Its starting! Its starting!

[somber light]

michael is winding kieran up. don't fall for it, kieran!

[oblique slate]

🔥 🔥

[vale arch]

Omg

[agile tapir]

But I have to say, Michael is showing this isnt his first rodeo

[humble trail]

Cagy wobbling his head to show how right michael is!

[dense granite]

We are in this for the money boiiis

[meager slate]

Where do I watch it

[humble trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWT8MkXZUJk

[hard trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/shots-fired-eastbound-and-down-kenny-rogers-gif-15437616

[meager slate]

Ty

[lusty mantle]

Shush, we are on Illuvium Twitch 😄

[humble trail]

Oh sorry, I couldn't handle Andrew talking through it lol

https://tenor.com/view/sml-bowser-shh-the-movie-is-starting-the-movies-starting-movie-starting-gif-25659365

[little flax]

This is fucking embarrassing lol

[dense granite]

Andrew doesn't talk much actually

[lusty mantle]

Hahahahha Hey Grant 😄

[tame rapids]

some moments yes.but he is almost silent

[humble trail]

they might do more innovation than us Grant 😏

[somber light]

wtf is cagy doing? he should be stepping in right now to lead the debate

instead, he's just sitting there smiling like a mofo

[old citrus]

How old is he? Can he even spell “debate”?

[oblique slate]

why is there a child moderating this🤔

[tame solar]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-thank-you-the-office-dunder-mifflin-when-someone-finally-agrees-gif-5694004

[dense granite]

Holy crap 200m

[deep forge]

I would have rather had Paul Barron Network host this debate

[lapis smelt]

Jesus Christ who tf bought their ships

[sonic dagger]

guys cagy is an axie player cmon
wht do u expect

[lapis smelt]

200m dollars lmao

[old citrus]

Not Kieran 😂

[humble trail]

200M is nothing guys. /s

[brittle mountain]

You’re expecting too much from him

[low lodge]

Zhu Su

[little flax]

Star atlas is about to learn how outsourcing your dev team can righteously fuck you in the ass

[sonic dagger]

👀

[dense granite]

200m is nothing lol

[lusty mantle]

Cagy should really stop talking, what is ithis

[tame solar]

https://tenor.com/view/ethlizard-ethlizards-gif-25172729

[lean sky]

can't get zoom

[sonic dagger]

grant dropped the f bomb

[glass pecan]

not a soul talking in the star atlas chat, i feel a little bad for them lol

clearly illuvium is shitting all over them rn

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/soccer-butt-cooling-hotass-beanandcheese-gif-5730848

[glass pecan]

mike looks like a nice guy lol

[dreamy shard]

well we could be getting some of the SA memebers jumping over to ILV now

[glass pecan]

this moderator is pretty weak

[lapis crag]

Isn't it how there was a security breach that lead to the famous Ronin's hack?

[sonic dagger]

cagy is a axie player not a mod

[tame solar]

imagine

like

LOL

[glass pecan]

this kid needs to hush and let the adults speak lol

im like 3 min behind lol

[near pier]

keeps the bum cool

[little flax]

Haha they surpassed star citizen in revenue but fell short by about 500000 scifi doors in ACTUAL game dev

[lusty mantle]

I'm about to close this, what a waste of time

[little flax]

Sorry everyone, they are gonna rek a large part of our image in this space

G fucking G

[dense granite]

They sold the ship stats/attributes only? Have they actually produced the ship nfts that they sold?

[zenith fable]

illuvium pet hahahah

[little flax]

Get ready for the hate

[somber light]

jfc cagy jumping with something totally off

[royal saffron]

im ready

[near pier]

When can we drop Cagy completely

[humble trail]

more star atlas gameplay!

[near pier]

Lol

[lusty mantle]

Sigh

[near pier]

not trying to take sides

[royal saffron]

after this interview

[near pier]

IIP to ban cagy from promoting illuvium

[royal saffron]

please tell me he is not paid by illuvum

[harsh veldt]

Ico unlock when?

[royal saffron]

godamn im not a hater but godamn

[sage imp]

Real bad look from Kieran right now. There is no percentage in trying to "burn" Wagner here... Even if he has some valid points, it isn't a great look. We should be focused on how illuvium is more awesome, rather than how star atlas is worse

[royal saffron]

disagree

Kieran has different goals

he is pursuing them

[mellow creek]

And failing 😂

[brittle mountain]

He is always bullshiting

[royal saffron]

yeah, sure

[tame solar]

there are 50 other games that did much worse

[lusty mantle]

This is just 1 big event to pay for Cagy his Zoom subscription

[sage imp]

The goal, presumably, is to expose Star Atlas as a scam. But you aren't going to accomplish that with a series of accusations that Wagner is able to talk around.

[tame solar]

Cagy is a geniou

s

sorry yall mad at him

[old citrus]

Don’t you have to be over 18 for that subscription?

[wispy pulsar]

Nailed it.

[near pier]

Please write the IIP ser, and youve secured my vote

[royal saffron]

do you really think so? he does not have to expose to a degree that Wagner agrees to the accusations. Avoid an answer is the answer

[dense granite]

He said he would cancel Zoom after the debate

[tame solar]

literally playing the community and kieran like a fiddle

[lusty mantle]

No idea how you got on council if you actually believe that

[tame solar]

its genius, just admit it

[near pier]

lol

[tame solar]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-chill-cool-gif-13024487

[brittle mountain]

Star Atlas is a fantasy people want but no many realise how unrealistic it is

[outer hull]

Doors. He said it

[sage imp]

Even if he lands a couple of points about how SA isn't a fair launch, he is giving Wagner copious time to talk up all the work they are doing to make SA a AAA game. If instead, Kieran focused on how much better Illuvium

is, then he can expose the weakness of SA through the strength of ILV

[meager slate]

"Why no game?" ---"Uh heres a list of things were making in the future" -wut?

[royal saffron]

I would agree if Kieran was there to shill illuvum, but he is not there for that

[agile tapir]

OOOOOOH

[sage imp]

Why would we not use this as an opportunity to showcase how ILV is better?

[dense granite]

Kieran going for the kill 🥶

[agile tapir]

He just drew a line there. Theyre building Triple A and Illuvium isnt

[royal saffron]

not everything has to be a shill right

[old citrus]

Right. And with a streaming audience of 500, this debate is not so important

[royal saffron]

live = / = view count of the video

[sour pine]

omg @inner topaz we love you ! Truly the vision of Illuvium is nice (drop me a beta though one day !!) , the tack on tokenomics and game development is unseen way you guys do it

(btw also am an Star Atlas fan, but still on my hunger there to do something)

[sage imp]

There is no way to win a debate like this. Accusations without significant research will just give Wagner the chance to say "Well that isn't quite correct, because..." And then gets to highlight how much thought they are putting into it.

[humble trail]

join the Trivia tonight, 3 hours from now for a chance to get Beta access quicker

[sour pine]

ty !

[mellow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19491841

[zenith fable]

looool

[little flax]

They aren't building this fucking game they talk of. Outsourcers are. And they need 5x as many people

Embarrassing

Main stream would spit on that

[lusty mantle]

Grant, no F boms pls 😅

[lapis crag]

The problem is that most people, who have no experience with building games, don't know that this is not a healthy way to build a triple A game

[glass pecan]

dude cagy is seriously too cringe

[echo fjord]

Cagy is a fkwit

[sage imp]

I don't disagree with that. But proving they don't have the resources to build the game, after raising $200mm, on a zoom debate with a weak moderate is just not going to be possible. Best case scenario is Kieran lands a punch or two, but Wagner talks for 30minutes about the giant scope of the game. I suspect there are a lot of people who know SA is a longshot, so Wagner only has to show they are doing a lot of things.

[little flax]

Nah this is bullshit

[sage imp]

lol

[mellow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/warriors-curry-salty-salt-bae-gif-9632449

[valid charm]

This guy cagy...

[humble trail]

Artur wouldve been a better moderator.

[royal saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-point-homer-simpson-simpsons-nelson-muntz-gif-16163203

[valid charm]

I will say that Michael speaks well

[glass pecan]

honestly these guys are grown men, they didnt need moderation

[mellow creek]

Maybe you shouldn’t of sent your misinformed brother to a debate he’s very clearly getting slapped around on

[tame solar]

legit confused why you're even looking at them

they are trash, they will never amount to anything

not worth the brainpower

[little flax]

I'm not salty now but I'm going to be in 2 years when SA is the textbook example of how Web 3.0 is not good for the games industry

[royal saffron]

Notcatz you are biased we get it, go talk in the youtube chat on in the ILLUVIUM DISCORD

[somber light]

dang fraggy burning cagy on twitter

[royal saffron]

obviously we are biasefd

biased

bias prevents from objective judgement

like cmon

[hard trellis]

Lol he is literally the middle curve person Kieran is talking about

[mellow creek]

Biased or not, you’re watching the same debate I am, it’s pretty clear what’s happening 😂

[royal saffron]

yea, to me it is also pretty clear

imagine that

its like humans are not objective or something

[lavish cape]

this is kieran vs jihozz all over again

[valid charm]

The moderator is shit. And this is pointless. Will say Michael speaks well, and by saying that; you can hide a lot a things with a golden tongue.

[vagrant inlet]

@hearty ore is all of us whenever Cagy speaks

[subtle comet]

Cagy is a complete tool

[royal saffron]

we can all agree that cagy is a bad moderator

[restive notch]

Can't stand Cagy

[royal saffron]

that fosho

[lusty mantle]

Oops

[subtle comet]

he has that effect on people

[oak fulcrum]

we'll see

[sage imp]

Exactly. Wagner just has to keep his cool and use basic talking points to dodge accusations. Makes ILV look kinda amateur, unfortunately. And Cagy is too weaksauce to re-apply pressure on valid questions

[echo fjord]

Lolll don't you remember their chart post launch

[gentle brook]

this is a joke lol Proof will be in execution not talking....Illuvium will win that battle

[hard trellis]

Loooool their token did not out perform

It was a fucked launch

I was there

[low lodge]

0.5 Billion vs 1.1 Billion. Outperformed by 55%

[lusty mantle]

I don't know about that, can't talk about it

[low lodge]

To the wrong side

[echo fjord]

Plenty of star atlas investors got burned hard

[floral gate]

Cagy is missing the point (same as Michael). It's not just simply about "two different ways of making a game". It's about the implications and perceptions on certain ways of building the game, that could eventually impact the wider sentiment for the industry that both sides are in. Which is one of Kieran's points that couldn't be answered back correctly (Michael just pulled out the "you are jealous and you want money" card what?)

[glass pecan]

all in all, even though this will do short term damage, this was very healthy for the web 3 industry and i think will do a lot of long term good, both these guys are going to be motivated af to continue the grind

[echo fjord]

Including unfortunately my Ill informed mates.

[round hatch]

wow to much ego on ceo... didnt accept work with start atlas to send poison

[oak fulcrum]

dont forget the ILV chart next to that

[mellow creek]

hehe

[mellow creek]

🏌️‍♂️

[round hatch]

he sounds mad and sounds like if he is mad about other CEO success or posibility of success

[lusty mantle]

@near pier don't we have 15k in beta?

[restive notch]

Cagy is also so misinformed

I thought it was 15k

[lament ermine]

@restive notch oh now i understand 🤣

[near pier]

Yes

I dmd kieran

[oak fulcrum]

and i guess you compare the utility / payment token to your own governance token?

[valid charm]

Kieran said 11k himself

[lusty mantle]

I think he is wrong 😅

[dense granite]

Cagy is invested in ILV but doesn't know how the DAO and IIP work lol

[lament ermine]

Have they talked about Iluvium too or is Kieran just angry with SA for some reason?

[echo fjord]

Bro come on... We talking after the first few months lo

[lusty mantle]

Kinda hard when the moderator doesn't let you speak 😉

[subtle comet]

getting dumber by the second listening to cagy

[vagrant inlet]

Both Star Atlas tokens are down -1000%-2000% since IPO, Illuvium still up 330% since IPO even with massive unlocks and huge staking APR unlocks 🤔

[lament ermine]

Well i have been only for the last 45 min. And in this time Kieran was really a prick.

[deep forge]

Pb1 opening up to 25k total players soon 🤞

[restive notch]

I don't get his point that their token outperformed ILV

[vagrant inlet]

And this man had the nerve to say Star Atlas tokens out performing 🗑

[echo fjord]

Thank you lol anyone with even a small hint of TA I their blood would know this

[mellow creek]

IEO: is .0138 for polis and .00138 for atlas

But keep up the great info

😂

[oak fulcrum]

so SA launching one month into the bearmarket makes it bad and ILV launching into a bullmarket makes it good

[lusty mantle]

Calling the co-founder names is maybe not the best way to start a conversation here.

[oak fulcrum]

that said I just hope both parties simply build out their vision

[lament ermine]

Oh dont give me that.... 🤣 if he cant behave himself. Why should i 👀

[lusty mantle]

Agree

[lusty mantle]

It's not my fault the moderator isn't doing his job. I am

[mellow creek]

They’ll be a nice little planet in SA

[royal saffron]

yeah.. in 2035

i hope i make it

[lament ermine]

Ok. I will just say your CEO dont know how to behave IMO.

[tranquil oracle]

Cagy is such a trash useless moderator

[dense granite]

In 10 years when SA is ready, maybe

[sleek knot]

LFG can't wait to get in!

[mellow creek]

Stay salty gents

[royal saffron]

okay

[lament ermine]

In 7*

[tranquil oracle]

He just wants to shill SA. What a douche.

[lusty mantle]

Will do, thanks for hopping in

[mellow creek]

All the household names in the gaming industry took many years to develop

[dense granite]

Sorry my bad, 7 years

[mellow creek]

We just never had insight from the beginning

[pseudo flint]

i guessthat is up to subjective opinion

[mellow creek]

Welcome to the future

[echo fjord]

Agreed. Unfortunately SA cracks will surface big ones

[royal saffron]

thank you

[junior blaze]

agreed

[vagrant inlet]

I’m sorry you don’t know the difference between an IPO and an IEO 😁

[restive notch]

Imagine the web3 space in 7 years though

[humble trail]

this is a nice long monologue from Michael!

[junior blaze]

HAHAHAH right

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/nftgaming-nftgame-nft-autobattler-rpg-gif-22458897

[restive notch]

well beyond where we are now

[junior blaze]

I thought no "monologues"

[abstract sparrow]

this guy talks a lot but doesnt say anything

[junior blaze]

Caggy is actually soo trash

[lament ermine]

Yea but im not wrong about such things. I might be wrong about other things. But not this one

[humble trail]

they will really do some big stuff in the near future like they said. Only 5 years away!

[crimson matrix]

host defending star atlas what is this shit haha

[pseudo flint]

IMO yyou are

[lament ermine]

SA also thinks that

[open leaf]

bad host

[dense granite]

Michael barely ever answered the questions

[echo fjord]

It's hard when the moderator is 7 years old

[oak fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-your-opinion-gif-4476328

[junior blaze]

everyone thinks that

[mellow creek]

Gifs are whack here

[lapis crag]

He barely answered any question

[lament ermine]

Yea but sadly IMo i dont think it matters haha

[sage falcon]

Hello everyone! Who can I talk to about a possible collaboration?

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-elmo-gif-16565594

[tranquil oracle]

Hahaha cagy is really a dumbass. Atleast now we know never to listen to anything his trash mouth says moving forward

[mellow creek]

Why don’t all of them pop up?

[humble trail]

he did answer the team-question
4 UE devs!

[lusty mantle]

Hey mate, you can check out the #❓〕faq

[junior blaze]

shoulda known that from his twitter....

[lusty mantle]

You didn't earn it yet

[lament ermine]

He barely asked a question in a calm manner 🥴

[crimson matrix]

but why is this a star atlas questioning debate i mean why dont he tell something about ilv

[oblique slate]

have to be lv 5 to post gifs and images

[royal saffron]

you need to have 5 lvl in this discord

[mellow creek]

😂

[lusty mantle]

He is calm?

[oak fulcrum]

[sage falcon]

Yes, I did, thing is that the link in it, redirects me to an Influencer Form

[royal saffron]

gifs are a privledge

[lament ermine]

Oh i collected all the angry moments. Will post on tweeter later

[gentle egret]

it's funny that they are excited for a "showroom" LOL

[gusty dove]

Catching up on this debate now. It seems like they are really missing how basic a problem star atlas will have with bringing gamers in when the game is severely unbalanced and 200 million in assets have been sold.

[pseudo flint]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22468703

[oak fulcrum]

Cagy outing himself as the professional shill 🤣

[lusty mantle]

They probably use the same form

[lapis crag]

That was the most interesting question but unfortunately Michael didn't answer it properly

[restive notch]

A little about everything and alot about nothing obviously cagy lol

[mellow creek]

Yeah at least both communities agree cagy is trash 😂🤝

[lusty mantle]

Make sure to cut out the important parts

[dense granite]

"I know a little bit of everything" - Cagy

[sage falcon]

Lots of required information I can't provide due to this difference

[lusty mantle]

Now we are talking!

[lament ermine]

Only the gold ones 🤪

[lusty mantle]

@inner topaz stop defending him, he did horrible

[floral gate]

LOL did you hear that

what am i hearing right nbow

[lament ermine]

Yea. You did horrible work in behaving. IMO you shouldnt be a spokeperson.

[dense granite]

Omg I so cringe

[lusty mantle]

Thank for the feedback

[hard trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-forman-debra-jo-rupp-laugh-meme-hysterical-laughter-lol-gif-24893555

[timid flax]

that was amazing

[oblique slate]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

[desert geode]

Thank for the Debate y'all. This has been really fun!

[lavish cape]

well that was something

[timid flax]

hahaha

[humble trail]

4 devs

[glass pecan]

reframing all of this from a positive perspective, it really was interesting and i wish the best for both projects

[timid flax]

how many devs with illuvium compared to the 4 devs of star atlas?

[lapis crag]

this is going to become meme

[lusty mantle]

So can I send the Star Atlas talk back to #799010390201466880 now? 😅

[outer hull]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[junior blaze]

fuck me. that was wild

[loud pagoda]

that star altas guy is a great sales man for sure. good speaker. that's it.

[lament ermine]

Pls dont

[pseudo flint]

@lament ermine tyou really are full of your own self aren't you . Kieran dfid awesome ... you are just .

[junior blaze]

good work Kieran

[timid flax]

@junior blaze why didnt u host it man

[tame solar]

yes

[lament ermine]

Own sell?

[floral gate]

should've add a counter for cringe or bad moments from cagy as well. would be greater than SA's good points

[lusty mantle]

I don't know 👀

[humble trail]

Lol if TSG had hosted it he wouldve been talking all the time ❤️

[meager slate]

I feel like a bigger nerd for actually being excited about that

[lavish cape]

i heard a lot of random words

[lusty mantle]

And much more F bombs

[tame solar]

All SA talk will be obliterated from here on out

https://gfycat.com/limitedclumsyduck

[lusty mantle]

👀

[zenith fable]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-climbing-agile-parkour-wall-climb-wall-run-gif-16014887

[lament ermine]

I just think that he is not the right guy to be a spoke person. Of course my opinion dont matter.

[junior blaze]

hahah I would've been happy to do that!

[lusty mantle]

Yeah next time, you'll have to talk in Twitch. I can't mod both chats.

[royal saffron]

if this was a real Seaforus, he would have stopped the comet last moment

[near pier]

nice wall climb

[lament ermine]

We will.

[eternal yoke]

Michael Wagner vibe is not good dude Is dodgy as fuck

[zenith fable]

I can't wait until we have massive web 3 gaming conferences like the equivalent to E3 of web 2

[lament ermine]

The angry dude kieran is ok?

[humble trail]

angry?

[pseudo flint]

look again. you can tweet waht ever you want if it offended your sensibilitys andpersonal perceptions its not fact.

[timid flax]

kept dodging the questions the michael man

[sleek knot]

That would be sick

[lavish cape]

calling bullsht is not angry

[gusty dove]

It was a bit funny listening to keiran explain how the Star Atlas approach will be terrible for web3 in a very easy to understand way just to see Cagy say they should collaborate together...

[lament ermine]

He was soo red in his head. He was angry af1

[lament ermine]

Was he calm? 😅🤣

[lusty mantle]

Imagine being hot in Australia 😄

[humble trail]

that was the lighting

[zenith fable]

Looool that cracked me up when he suggested the collaboration

[lusty mantle]

100%

[lament ermine]

No, you re hot

[eternal yoke]

That’s not angry bro… lol. Just frustration when dealing with dodgy mfk

[lusty mantle]

True

[vale arch]

I could have watched the debate on mute and just read the body language ! Haha classic

[tame rapids]

That was so stupid😂

[lavish cape]

isn't that the normal kieran?

[lusty mantle]

Ok, finally toilet break

[pseudo flint]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-mug-rainbow-gif-18361133

[humble trail]

?

[valid charm]

This chat is taking me back to kindergarten, @lusty mantle where is the mute button? 👀

[lament ermine]

I dont know. I know that i dont like. I know i like Iluvium. But not him.

[eternal yoke]

The dude doesn’t even know his dev team and numbers …. No idea on UI. Just call himself the finance guy.

[humble trail]

I had my reservations as well the first couple months. But his attitude grows on you.

[copper zenith]

Cagy hurts my bones he’s so cringe

[lament ermine]

I really think it wont. I met too many people like him already.

[worldly mist]

It's easy to be like Kieran when you're doing everything right

[lusty mantle]

I mean oil change

[worldly mist]

not trying to be a dick rider but you get to call the shots when you do things right

[lament ermine]

Sadly for me @inner topaz destryed debate. I really wanted to hear some cool discussion. But it was sooo one sided.

my opinion of cours1e

[worldly mist]

just my opinion'

[lusty citrus]

Kieran makes decisions based on the majority of gamers not just whales. That why i respect him. Star Atlas is just exploiting peeps to raise money

[valid charm]

You seem a bit one sided too ser

[hard trellis]

Literally said idk shit but trust me bro

[timid flax]

is star atlas going on gamestop marketplace like illuvium?

[pseudo flint]

star atlas is trying pull off the same thing star citizen is just see how much money they can ake

[humble trail]

but with 10x the capital and a fourth of the team!

[gusty dove]

Making a system where whales can show off holo's and normal people can also play on a somewhat even playing field is one of the coolest things about illuvium.

[lavish cape]

here he comes

[eternal yoke]

That dude is slippery as fuck

[lusty mantle]

👀

[inner topaz]

I don't need to shill Illuvium, we have a game out. It is what we said it is. People can apply and check out the footage from the thousands of people playing. The reason he has to sit their shilling his product with words is because it is simply that - words.

[lusty citrus]

Exactly no pay to win bullshit

[humble trail]

Kieran can we also do a discord townhall every 3 weeks?

[hard trellis]

Honestly the best thing I got from him is that Starfield is coming out next year lol looks dope

[lament ermine]

I am. Sadly he presented really bad image of himself. Not ILV, but him only

[timid flax]

kieren that was amaze

[copper zenith]

Facts

[timid flax]

facts are always great

[pseudo flint]

You were awsome !

[copper zenith]

He couldn’t answer anything definitively - rambles and rambles

[mystic rapids]

Kieran representing illuvium well

[lament ermine]

Does he? 👀🥴

[worldly mist]

Ty for your service Kieran xd

[pseudo flint]

100%

[royal saffron]

what did he do wrong? push a little?

[gilded rivet]

dude youre all star atlas in your profile we get it

[humble trail]

Was a good watch!

[timid flax]

if u see bullshit u call it out

[lament ermine]

And im not anti ILV. 😁

[echo fjord]

In the end gameplay wins AAA additional banger 💥

[timid flax]

aint that what kieran did

[quick spindle]

I think I can see how you might think that. Appreciate you sharing!
But it was really the lack of moderating by Cagy which killed the debate, in my opinion.
There could have been some cool discussions had Cagy actually moderated, asked the right questions, and kept everyone on topic.

Hopefully there will be more debates in the future 🙂

[mystic rapids]

@lament ermine yea, no dancing around questions like that politician

[lusty citrus]

I could moderate better than Cagy and ive never streamed once!

[copper zenith]

There is no way they put out a game in 5 years imo

[valid charm]

Let's just see the results in 6 months

[lavish cape]

call more bullsht kieran

[vale arch]

Wen movie - “illuvium vs StarTrek”…

[lament ermine]

Agreed.

[echo fjord]

They will never put out a game they won't exist in 5 years

Lol

[oblique slate]

IIP to not participate in debates with Cagy as moderator

[humble trail]

yeah we got new unofficial timelines lol Overworld before the end of the year!?

[lusty citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-evil-austin-powers-facebook-meme-gif-gif-23192880

[copper zenith]

I rather have a leader with conviction and no non sense then someone tip toes around comments

[valid charm]

IIP to not participate in these kind of debates

[lusty citrus]

In 5 years you be able to walk inside your spaceship

[lusty mantle]

IIP to close discord during debates

[quick spindle]

I picked up on that as well.
We can hope!

[tulip halo]

GM all

[oblique slate]

morning sir

[pseudo flint]

I said before this is the next star citizen but they don't have the ability to milk as much money form people as star citizen does.

[worldly mist]

Let's not go off of that though lmfao

[restive notch]

Lol in the star atlas group that they are showing a clip to everyone of grant saying it was a get rich scheme to begin with, taking it out of context lol

[sage falcon]

what happens when the 200 million runs out

[lament ermine]

Yep. SC is trying achieve that for years... Since like 2015 i think

[copper zenith]

You know what happens 😂 Sell more NFTs

[tulip halo]

I see the discord is very lively today, what’s up with that?

[humble trail]

Theyve been building for 11 years already 😄

[zenith fable]

@lusty mantle

i dont have a twitch account. Tell TSG to climb the wall on the current twitch stream on my behalf

[lament ermine]

Oh even worse 😅

[pseudo flint]

star atlas will shut their doors long before they get to that many years imo

[timid flax]

so its like, web 3 currently has a bunch of bad stuff and illuvium is the good good stuff wanting the space to be way better but sees popular bullshit taking away and essentially scamming retail players?

like 100k ships bruh

[lament ermine]

I do like ILV. Need to dig0 even more in the game.

[lusty mantle]

Done

[zenith fable]

hahahha i saw his laugh 🤣

[lusty citrus]

Kieran just made Star Atlas his pet on live stream

[lament ermine]

Maybe. But im happy we are building something big and reach for new frontiers 😎

[copper zenith]

It’s all about fair launch at the end of the day. Star atlas is allowing people to buy advantages. The essential toxic model of web3

[lament ermine]

Where?!

[copper zenith]

All the ships? The 200 million in ships?

[royal saffron]

any star atlas bois or illuvium bois who wanna check out GAMEPLAY, going live in this discord now

[eternal yoke]

Dude wats collaborated…. Keiran just told him to fuck off with his shit unless he got a working game

[lament ermine]

You wont be able to play it fore free

[humble trail]

Star Atlas Debate Featuring Kieran, Michael and Cagy, the best three in their respective fields 😎
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWT8MkXZUJk

[lusty mantle]

No more Start Atlas talk guys, go #799010390201466880

[pseudo flint]

if they manage to actually pull it off it will be a a amazing looking game

[lament ermine]

Who is Cagy? I mean what is he doing

[reef lantern]

what if travelling between region, you'll be in a spaceship

[gusty dove]

I think that 200 million is inflated. Don't people stake ships to earn $Atlas for more ships? What happens in 2 years when there is no game and people start dumping.

[copper zenith]

Illuvium is free to play so even more so why Illuvium is better for the gaming world

[sage falcon]

but there's nothing left to sell

[inner topaz]

Yeah I have been saying that for a while. I think it should rotate around the founders. We all have different perspectives

[lament ermine]

Yea looking game 100% but more important1 is every1thing else 😅

[lusty mantle]

I also asked Rich before to do these again

[lament ermine]

Then what do you get with NFTs?

[humble trail]

And it would save all of you some time because yall are so busy. That would mean youd only have to do a townhall once every 3 months!

[restive cradle]

yeah 🔥

[zenith fable]

Monthly Town hall would be awesome

[covert arrow]

good debate guys. Cheers.

[humble trail]

and we can finally ask Danny about all things finance... :]]]

[pseudo flint]

@inner topaz wen rematch between you an @little flax

[lusty mantle]

Didn't they already do that?

[echo fjord]

Won't happen no chance

[humble trail]

first Kieran Vs @mossy grove in PB2

[pseudo flint]

i agree was an attempt at diplomacy ....not one of my strong skillsets lol

[eternal yoke]

Lmao scope is massive…. Dude said even the Toilet in space room needs to be working in game

[echo fjord]

Haha I had a few mates lose 100k that direction and us other mates chose the light of Illuvium

[inner topaz]

200m in ships that will be playable in BEST case three years, likely 5 years (so actually 10 years) and he says it without flinching. Like he's proud of it.

They may as well have a lockup for 10 years for their staking program. Thats essentially what it is. Why wouldn't they? Only a handful of people would do it. Thats why I know that there couldn't be more than 10% of people that knew those NFTs wouldn't be playable for that long.

Can you imagine saying that - buy now and play in 5-10 years, maybe!

[timid flax]

Illuvium does atlas better, they made atlas a cute little blue water alien

[lusty mantle]

Ffs Kieran, I just said they have to go #799010390201466880

[lament ermine]

Wait who delate POLIS ATLAS question

[gusty dove]

It's shameless.

[humble trail]

wen 10 year ILV lock for 100X weight 😏

[open leaf]

sign me up

[lament ermine]

You said 3 🤣🤣🤣

[timid flax]

10 year preorder

[pseudo flint]

https://tenor.com/view/oof-po-kung-fu-panda-oooh-gif-14141257

[mellow creek]

Now you back to angry mode? 😂

[outer hull]

The 200 million were in the bull market i think. I wonder how much illuvium could have raised in that case

[clever fjord]

Star Atlas is the Terra/Bitconnect that will start the gamefi bear market in a few years when it will collapse and all the money disappeared

[mellow creek]

Should’ve kept that energy at the debate

[oblique slate]

just facts🧐

[lament ermine]

POLIS - DAO oken
Not ATLAS (ingame currency)

[echo fjord]

Don't forget what the next macro and narrative brings will absolutely crush anything that wasn't legit. Here the team has been crunching hard AF behind the scenes

[restive cradle]

I agree and you did a great job in the stream 💯

[lament ermine]

@old tendon

[lusty mantle]

If you want information about Star Atlas, go to Star Atlas discord.

[lament ermine]

He was asking. 🤪

[young mountain]

Lol that debate will be evidence for the trial. I hope it was recorded

[royal saffron]

he was stating

[lusty mantle]

And I am telling where he can find his information.

[novel egret]

Agreed. This isn’t a great source 😂🔥

[old tendon]

they gotta raise capital somehow

[lament ermine]

You super nice mod

[mellow creek]

Welcome sir

[humble trail]

For what though, their 100 people outsource team?
(yeah i didn't remember the exact numbers sorry)

[outer hull]

She is

[inner topaz]

They did. Which is why I can't work out why they need to sell ships and fuck the balance of their game. Makes no sense

[old tendon]

their team is growing as well. I saw michael say in a different interview that they will have 1500 people eventually

[lusty citrus]

Outsourcing the majority sounds super SUS to me

[lament ermine]

Shes a women?! My favourite MOD

[timid flax]

@inner topaz sounds intriguing

whats happening behind the scenes with that haha

[dense granite]

Anyone can say that

[lusty mantle]

Why do you hate me

[mellow creek]

I mean if you literally were in the debate and didn’t listen that’s on you man 😂

[gusty dove]

It seems like the standard in web3 for now is to sell nft's first and develop later.

[humble trail]

Maybe they are just so scared of poaching that they pay their team 50K per month each

[mellow creek]

Not surprised your community just repeats what you say

[old tendon]

ya'll are hating on a man with a grand vision. its a bit sad TBH

[young mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-bride-choc-simp-spotted-gif-16386102

[royal saffron]

cagy did not do his job properly. micahel rambled and rambled, it was easy to stop paying attention

[lusty mantle]

You have been doing the same thing since you just joined. We like Illuvium, you like Star Atlas. Just move on man, what's the point?

[lament ermine]

So true haha

[mellow creek]

If you have an attention span of 10 seconds, sure

[lament ermine]

I like ILV too. Except @inner topaz

[lusty mantle]

Please stay respectful to our community

[royal saffron]

yeah i guess this is just a bias vs bias ir ather not even tlak

[lusty citrus]

Star Atlas vision to exploit early investors to maybe have a game in 5+ years

[open leaf]

i agree man. The host should step in and get the interviewer to answer the questions. instead of going off topic to avoid the question

[restive cradle]

I need beta access :<

[gusty dove]

Who is more honest in the space though?

[timid flax]

i was about to click that link damn

[lusty mantle]

@inner topaz I deleted that for you. I'm trying to mod here. Please go #799010390201466880

[inner topaz]

Pretty big oversight from your leader. Check the video above from 47:25

[near pier]

What link

[dense granite]

Mike never answered to the point. Why should anyone pay attention to things that don't answer the questions?

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laptop-fast-homework-apple-gif-5315897

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-computer-angry-internet-push-gif-17046176

[timid flax]

@near pier there was never a link

[inner topaz]

Hmm, even I cant post links in herE??

[junior blaze]

you killed it Kieran

[lusty mantle]

I deleted it

[timid flax]

i didnt see anything

[near pier]

Busted

[humble trail]

too fast

but i found it

[old tendon]

the whole thing I got from this debate is that michael wagner is a rational man of great intellectual prowess and a grand vision

[timid flax]

fraggy be giving justice to people no matter their role

[pseudo flint]

@lusty mantle modded you 😆

[timid flax]

haahaha

[inner topaz]

He seems super confident about those numbers. Weird oversight 🤣

Where do I post the link then @lusty mantle

[abstract sparrow]

LOL, he says a lot of words but isnt saying anything.