lore

[umbral mortar]

Check this out: https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/wand-woods

[vivid owl]

and there's one for wand cores

and wand lore in general

I have them bookmarked to use as reference

[umbral mortar]

Yeah

Although we don't know anything about mahogany wood that James Potter had. Ollivander still uses it

I guess jkr forgot to write about it

[vivid owl]

mmhmm, or a variety of other woods

Like the fact I've used rhododendron to make 2 wands, and so had to create a personality match to it based off its symbolism and traits.

[little scroll]

I didn’t really know where to put this but will we be getting these robes?

[umbral mortar]

If you connect your wizarding world account to wb account then you can get this in game

[little scroll]

Ok

Thanks

[craggy moon]

that looks awful ngl

[timid juniper]

It does

Anyway, I'm using the default outfit

I want to be like the others in my class

[tired hornet]

I think it would be funny to try and get the most outlandish and ridiculous outfits you can to make myself look beyond ridiculous. It would be a Ravenclaw thing to do. (Luna Lovegood)

[sick night]

When Tom casts the Killing Curse on Harry in the last book, and they both end up in Limbo, I wonder if Tom heard the conversation between Harry and Dumbledore, where Dumbledore confirms that a piece of Tom Riddle's was indeed inside him, and that Tom himself destroyed it.

[stuck epoch]

they didnt both end up in limbo (harry wasnt even in limbo there). we saw the part of voldys soul that stuck to harry

the limbo is a place for those who create horcruxes or something as bad

so only voldy and herpo (if hes dead/when he dies) will get there

the others will just go into the afterlife

[vivid owl]

Pretty sure Harry got to choose in that situation if he wanted to die, or if he wanted to sacrifice the horcrux in him in his place, allowing him to go back.

I don't think the soul piece stays in limbo, pretty sure it just dies.

After all we know that Death in the HP universe is not too fond of being cheated, so it's definitely going to claim that soul piece.

[stuck epoch]

yea harry had the choice to stay (die) or to leave (come back to life) and limbo is something else where he was in was more of a between living world and the afterlive world typ of thing

[random moon]

Limbo is the place between life and death. It’s where someone ends up and they have to make the choice to move on or return as a ghost (which is just an imprint of the soul that lingers)

Limbo looks different to everyone that end up there. Voldy and the remnants of his soul will never be able to move in either direction and will remain stuck in Limbo

[stuck epoch]

Hmm id expect limbo to be just eternal nothingness

And thought it was only for broken souls not for all

Going by that i would be wrong and the place we saw harry in was indeed limbo

[vivid owl]

Pretty sure Voldy's soul fragments aren't stuck in limbo but are dead.

Harry only gets to be there because of his ability to make the choice, and Dumbles is just an echo, if that.

So once Harry leaves limbo then Voldy's soul fragment just moves on to death, it's not stuck there, it's dead and gone.

After all limbo is just the in between, it's not a place one is meant to stay, and Harry did get hit by a killing curse, that energy has to go somewhere and kill something, that something being the soul fragment.

Or if you want, Voldys soul pieces stay until he's entirely dead, and then they all move on as one.

[upbeat hazel]

That is someone's art that you're talking about, you could be more respectful. It's fairly easy to say you don't like something without insulting it's appearance.

[umbral mortar]

I think it looks great

[vivid owl]

I also personally do like the design of the house cloaks/robes? outfits. That image though really isn't great for showing it off considering how blurry it is.

Though this isn't really the channel to discuss them.

[stuck epoch]

Its confirmed that voldys soul stays in limbo for all eternity tho

And there isnt really a “just dead” thing in the WW universe. after you die you either become a ghost (only for magicians and squibs) or you move onto the afterlive like harrys family

And with voldys soul being so unstable and shattered he cant choose neither option so hes just stuck in limbo

[brave echo]

How exactly does the app work , can you give a tutorial on how to use it ?

[umbral mortar]

Go to wizarding world website or fan club app and create an account

[modern moth]

Voldy heavily relied on elder wand which is the big mistake

According to a youtuber his daughter was able to take on Harry easily

Because she studied about Harry alot

[umbral mortar]

So Chudley Cannons won the legue 21 times. The last time being in 1892. This poster in common room is showing chudley canons with the number 21. But the game takes place in 1890. Does that mean this moment is taking place later?

6th or 7th year possibly? 👀

[azure urchin]

That would be cool. Guessing it's just another pothole tho

[glossy skiff]

It could be a player number

[placid fog]

Yes, the number can mean anything

[timid juniper]

I'll bet it will not happen. That is if they say that it could be a possibility. But they said no and not in the future.

However, seeing this cup play out would be nice

[brave echo]

So quidditch is playable ?

[timid juniper]

That has been confirmed by them that it won't be

Didn't say "it might be in the future"

Said no

[grim blade]

Neat catch maybe but it could be a poster saying that this cup will be their 21st or something like that

But with seasons and such it doesn’t seem unlikely to me that the game will take place over multiple years so it could happen right before year 7

[umbral mortar]

Also a possibility

[brave echo]

Then why would they include it in the trailers .

[grizzled meteor]

They're is a chance they add it later on after the release date

there is so many possibilities for DLCs and other stuff for this game

[timid juniper]

Including it in the trailers just confirms that there is Quidditch in the universe, doesn't mean it is playable.

My guess it's either part of the story or just there to be there as it is part of the world.

Yes, there might be DLC for it, I wouldn't place my bets on it and it would be a year or two.

At most, I'll say the Quidditch grounds will be for broom training where you have to catch the snitch in a training

[timid juniper]

Plus, it builds hype 😉

[brave echo]

Quidditch is an integral part of Hogwarts , it would be a bummer if they would skip it

[timid juniper]

Oh believe me, I'm bummed too

It MIGHT be that there will be a cutscene or something of a match :p

[brave echo]

If they do multiplayer in quidditch , people are gonna keep coming back even after a few years. Believe me

[grizzled meteor]

If they do multiplayer at all people are going to comeback.

Personally, I would love a multiplayer world, but I doubt it will happen at least in the next couple years

[timid juniper]

Maybe, but I'd rather have a decent Quidditch game rather it be tacked on

[grizzled meteor]

But with this game being about the magical world, they're is so much DLC's that could be added later on.

[timid juniper]

I actually like it's not multiplayer :p certain things you can't do on multiplayer that can be done well in single

[brave echo]

I want only quidditch to be multiplayer , nothing else

[grizzled meteor]

Well they can make a multiplayer option

Kinda like GTA

[timid juniper]

Like res said, maybe dlc

But I wouldn't hope for it

[grizzled meteor]

Tbh, no matter what they do the game is going to be amazing

[brave echo]

Quidditch is still a better dlc than the dark arts pack they are giving.

[grizzled meteor]

That's not a DLC though.

Quidditch will take months to perfect the dark arts pack maybe took a couple weeks.

like development wise

[timid juniper]

Theoretically if it was in the deluxe, it would be a lot more successful

But it would take months or years yea

[brave echo]

If they do any extra dlc 's after the release then i hope it is free .

[timid juniper]

Maybe, I wouldn't mind paying if the quality is there

Supporting the game

[grizzled meteor]

As long as there reasonable priced.

[grim blade]

I’m very happy not having a quidditch mini game and having that development time put into expanding other parts of the game

[timid juniper]

This is a great point

[grizzled meteor]

Yea

[grim blade]

Quidditch deserves its own EA sports style game a la Harry Potter Quidditch World Cup

[grizzled meteor]

That's why I said a DLC later on.

[timid juniper]

Which is why I'd want a game dedicated to it

[timid juniper]

Mhmm

[grim blade]

It was a fun game but too easy imo

Not enough strategy actually went into it

[timid juniper]

There's more detail you can do when all of the dev time and resources are funneled

Quidditch itself is complex

It isn't "kick the ball in a goal" which is easy to do a simple goal and ball

[brave echo]

The golden snitch is difficult to do in quidditch. It shouldn't be a simple path where the seeker can easily catch it . There should be some challenge to it

I don't know how they are gonna do the bludgers

Do the bludgers go after the players in general or just the beaters ?

[timid juniper]

I'd assume they'd focus the beaters but I'm unsure

[brave echo]

Yeah , I'm not entirely sure on how the game works . The movies didn't show in detail on how it works as it always focused on harry

[timid juniper]

The thing is, all the games focused on Harry so we've almost exclusively been seeker

[grim blade]

I assumed chasers would play kinda like a fifa game

[timid juniper]

If EA can make a good Quidditch game, I'll be all in. But EA has changed

[grim blade]

Beaters would focus on tracking bludgers to defend your own players and directing them towards enemies when you get close enough to go it

I like the way the PS2 game handled seekers where a combination of time passed in game and points scored determined when it was found before a chase mini game but the mini game needs to be more complex and not take place on a track

Alternatively both seekers could have a perception stat that is used to randomly calculate to amount of time until they find the stitch, and this time can be increased by launching bludgers at them, then when found the difference left in time and be used to put the other seeker somewhere behind the one the found the snitch first as they race for it dodging obstacles and such

It depends how much quidditch team manager you want in the game as well for their to exist something like stats

[brave echo]

Is there any fixed time that the game ends after like football ?

[grim blade]

Time is fixed based on getting the snitch

[brave echo]

Ohh

[grim blade]

For gameplay reasons you say that the most time a game will ever take is 30 minutes

But that time is variable based off of how high scoring the game is in the first proposal or how good the perception stat is of the seekers in the second proposal

Ultimately you want the game length and pacing to be such that catching the snitch isn’t an auto win because you can score enough points in the main game to bypass the auto win, but you also want the snitch gameplay to be good enough that winning by catching it still feels rewarding

And because quidditch works off soccer rules where the number of points you get over a season determines placement there is still value to catching the snitch even if you lose

[brave echo]

And can the snitch go beyond the quidditch grounds ?

[grim blade]

It does in the books I think but not too far beyond

I’d have to double check

[brave echo]

Because In the Azkaban movie , it went too far.

[grim blade]

It went too high

But I think it stayed within bounds otherwise

[brave echo]

Interesting

And they have to fix the broom to be flexible too. The broom looks too stiff in the trailers

[grim blade]

It apparently doesn’t leave the bounds of the stadium but will go high up

[grim blade]

Yeah that one of the reasons why imo it needs its own games. Flight mechanics can be built in a certain way to accomplish specific goals. In the case of legacy likely quick travel over the open world and broom races, but that leaves it less than ideal for the snappy maneuverability required for quidditch imo. Things from speed to handling to even the view we have behind the broom would have to be adjusted for quidditch in addition to adding in all of the complex quidditch mechanics.

And then you have to program the AI to play the game and be a challenge to the player

[brave echo]

True

[brave echo]

Do you know what kind of brooms will be there in the game as it's set in 1800's ? Did nimbus series exist in that time ?

[grim blade]

Nimbus was founded in 1967

There is a fair bit of lore saying that modern brooms allowed for the existence of drifting maneuvers and stuff like that as braking charms improved

[brave echo]

Same for firebolt as well ?

Firebolt would be perfect for quidditch

[grim blade]

1993 based in the wikia

Even clean sweep wasn’t until 1926

Weird

[sick night]

It's actually a misconception that what Harry saw in Limbo was the piece of soul that clinged to him. According to Rowling, it's a representation of the last piece of soul that Tom had left (the fragment that inhabited his body).

[grim blade]

I personally believe a modern time quidditch game would be better though a dlc could use this timeline of sport broom development as an excuse for worse mechanics, but I’d rather just have better mechanics

[brave echo]

Yeah , true

Do y'all want romance to be in the game ?

It's a fifth year after all

[grim blade]

So long as it’s classy

I don’t see why not

[brave echo]

Do y'all know when was the marauders map invented ?

[sick night]

It was created by James Potter, Peter Pettigrew, Sirius Black, and Remus Lupun during their school years.

[brave echo]

Best creation ever

[short basin]

and the pet? how will we choose?

[obtuse bolt]

It's not officially confirmed we will have a pet in terms of owl toad or cat but if we can I imagine it will be a cosmetic thing you can place in the RoR or common room if it is, though the magic vivariums filled with fantastic beasts are a possible replacement with super pets.

[open jackal]

#🧠theories message I think she speaks truthfully. Like, there is possibility that might be true

[obtuse bolt]

oh yeah definately you get fantasic beasts but we don't know about toad, owl or cat pets

[open jackal]

Should be, maybe custom thing in your house, dunno

[brave echo]

I got my answer today about quidditch.

@grim blade You should have been a avalanche studio developer. You could have made an excellent quidditch game

[timid juniper]

It isn't playable no. It was stated in their FAQ

[brave echo]

It was updated recently ? It wasn't there earlier in the faq

[timid juniper]

A day or two ago

So, pretty recently yea

[brave echo]

Iam disappointed but it's fine. Maybe they will do it in the sequel.

[timid juniper]

As long as I can at least chase the snitch in broom practice, I'll be at least ok

It's not the same but it's something

[brave echo]

Will there be a sequel for Hogwarts legacy if the game is successful ?

Or is this a one-time thing ?

[timid juniper]

That I have no idea

[stuck epoch]

not confirmed but they did say that they are willing to do more if the game is successful

[olive idol]

A trilogy of the last 3 years would be dope, but i don't know if they plotted for it. I also hope they do DLC instead of only releasing new games. A 15$ quidditch DLC that adds in a new character or two, quidditch, and broom combat sounds reasonable to me

[stuck epoch]

they would probably make new games rather than adding years to this

[brave echo]

Hopefully the story of the game is good. Other aspects of the game looks good . If there are plot twists and an excellent story then we have a perfect game

[stuck epoch]

story is not that high up on my list for this game

i trust that they will make a good story but im more about exploring the world than the story

[brave echo]

Exploring the world as missions would be more interesting.

[grim blade]

I appreciate it. I am a software engineer who would love the shift in career if anyone at avalanche or port key games is listening

[stuck epoch]

not for me im more for free exploration but thats just different interests ig

[brave echo]

Exploring the open world is fun but it will get boring after some time

[stuck epoch]

different interests as i said

[modern moth]

not if it is made well

[stuck epoch]

but story and side storys will most probably be very well made

[brave echo]

Send them a resume

[brave echo]

Yeah, Take GTA 5 for example. They make you travel across the whole map through missions.

[stuck epoch]

i have never played the gta 5 story only ever the online mode with friends

but yea itll be like this probably

[olive idol]

I meant adding new features/mechanics in DLC, not just in new games. A new year should have a new storyline and characters, and thus be a new game

[stuck epoch]

we will most likely see the world while we are on missions (story or side)

[stuck epoch]

that will most likely be yes

but i wouldnt personally bet on quidditch as a dlc

[brave echo]

You should play GTA 5 , The story is excellent

[olive idol]

It's an open world? That's not really how I understood it

[brave echo]

It is

[stuck epoch]

Hogwarts legacy is an open world game yes

and the map will be rather large

[grim blade]

Lol 😂 reasonable

[last stream]

NNNOOOOooooOOOooo

[last stream]

Basically you do your Hogwarts years (That isn't open world) But then after your student years at Hogwarts it becomes an open world game

[stuck epoch]

uhm

not really no

the main story plays in the open world and you can explore the open world at mostly any given time

you will have lessons and some missions that restrict it for the time of the lesson/mission but nothing more

night time may also be a restriction (sometimes) but thats not 100% yet well have to see bout that

[brave echo]

Not sometimes, always. You need to sneak around at night

[stuck epoch]

we saw mc out at night so no

there will probably be some times where be go out at night and not need to sneak out

we are a special case after all and holding us in hogwarts just cause students arent allowed outside at night is something that can be overlooked in certain situations

[brave echo]

But why would you want to go outside at night ?
Unless you are serving detention there is literally no reason the be outside at night

[spiral summit]

To not waste time sleeping and using night-time for exploring more

Night ellipsis are a waste of a third of your Hogwart's year
And I don't think there will be a sleeping system to penalyze you with headaches or things like that if you don't sleep

[worthy trench]

Unless ur the main protagonist and trying to stop dark wizards or are becoming one yourself and the staff is not helpful in either scenario, 2nd one that's moot

[spiral summit]

Plus it would be a shame not to enjoy to their fullest the beautiful night graphics that are made

[turbid obsidian]

Literally no source and/or confirmation on this

Spreading theories like this as if they’re fact is misleading and it’s the kinda stuff that leads to people getting dissapointed

[brave echo]

If you will tell that to mr filch , you will be suspended

[brave echo]

Yeah , youre right.

[fast canopy]

Does anyone have any information on how the room of requirement was made?

[glass kraken]

Might be some stuff here: https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Room_of_Requirement

[fast canopy]

👍

[stuck epoch]

Many reasons. With saving the world from two things, exploring the world, companions/side quests, shopping. Dont think you can do all that after school now can you? Remember that its a game and while they are staying close to the canon some things have to be disregarded for gameplay reasons. We see mc going to hogsmeat alone at night, you can only go to hogsmeat on a scheduled weekend during the day but would you want to wait a few ingame weeks just to go shopping or sell the few things you got from exploring the world in the 2h ingame time you could before you had to go back because of night time?

[frosty venture]

Hey can someone tell me, so are things like Newt Scamanders suit case another kind of mini world or is it a port key and if so is it possible that the Wizarding World is really another dimension that is just closely linked to the Muggle world?

[stuck epoch]

Its more of a mini world( space expansion like the tents is more accurate). And the wizarding world and muggle world is the same dimension

[frosty venture]

Makes sense

And kinda figured but it's always fun to asked other peoples opinion

[high ingot]

How i do that? I already did my house in the hp fan club but they say i can sort in hogwarts legacy now so how i sort my house in hogwarts legacy

[stuck epoch]

when the game is out you can choose

or you connect your WB account (if you dont have one just make one now) and your WW account

[high ingot]

But why they say right now then

[stuck epoch]

if you do that you get sorted in the house from the WW account now

you can probably choose in the game again if you want another house (atleast i hope you can for multiple playthroughs)

[high ingot]

Its say you can get sorted into your hogwarts legacy house right now

[stuck epoch]

yes

if you connect your Wizarding world account to your WB account you import your house wand and patronus

as i just said

[high ingot]

So im gryffindor in ny hp fan club thats mean im gonna be gryffindor in hogwarts legacy automatic???

[stuck epoch]

yes

[high ingot]

Oh nice

[stuck epoch]

unless you change it ingame later on i hope

be sure to link the platform you are going to use as well

connect*

[high ingot]

Ok i have a cat at the third thing what can i do with that in hogwarts legacy

[stuck epoch]

?

dont think the questions you answer about your pet will be relevant for HL

[modern moth]

The patronas I’m guessing

[stuck epoch]

ah yes thats the patronus and will be imported as well

all three things you see there will be imported if you connect the accounts

[modern moth]

It’s not confirmed yet though we’ll see

[stuck epoch]

the lady in the back to hogwarts day said so iirc

[high ingot]

What the patronud does?

[stuck epoch]

its the spell against the dementors

the one harry does in the third movie

[high ingot]

Nice

[modern moth]

iirc?

[stuck epoch]

if i recall correctly

[high ingot]

So the cat its gonns come when i use spells? Or its my pet

[stuck epoch]

thats the thing thats going to come when you use the spell

[high ingot]

I think its gonna be much spells but i think how to use all the spells

[stuck epoch]

be aware tho if you choose to walk the dark path you wont be able to use a patronus

[high ingot]

Ok

I wonder how to use all the diffrent spells

[stuck epoch]

we dont know yet but quit many i would say

[kindred thicket]

They said the house and wand you can get. The patronus the never spoke off. And i hope@u can choose ur own patronus. :p

[earnest linden]

might want to scrub your name from that?!

[earnest linden]

id luv if there were set components to the game choosing your patronus out of allavailable patroni in pottermore based on you playstyle and characters choices but idk seems like work but could be cool...

[stuck epoch]

pretty much any animal (magical or not) can be a patronus the non-magical are more common

[high ingot]

ops

[umbral mortar]

Plural would be patronuses

[kindred thicket]

That sounds lovely. I think the patronus need to be close to ur personality. Not a random one

[vale meteor]

Patroni sounds a lot better, to me at least

[silent flume]

deadly curse > patronus

[stuck epoch]

yes

but the reason i said that is because the first and last dark wizard who tried got eaten by maggots which shot out his wand

[silent flume]

seems fitting

[stuck epoch]

well he did it out of spite so yes

[silent flume]

Also apparently Merlins patronus was a form of King Arthur himself lol, pretty wild, Arthronus

But he was a truly exceptional wizard

[stuck epoch]

the most powerful known wizard

[silent flume]

Well isnt that all pretty sketchy, Godric/Salazar/Merlin/Dumbledor ect, no real way of telling whos the most powerful as the first 3 didnt duel Im sure, and Dumbledor came so long after

Theres a few you could argue are the most powerful

[wind scarab]

didn't jkr say that merlin is the most powerful?

[silent flume]

Did she? if so, then there you have it

[violet isle]

melin was

jk said so

[boreal shuttle]

That sounds like fanfiction tbh

[silent flume]

could be, but merlin n arthur are canon, so I wouldnt be shocked tbh

[boreal shuttle]

Also, didn't JKR label Merlin as the most famous wizard of all time? I don't recall her saying he was the most powerful

[silent flume]

especially with merlin being unique af compared to most famous wizards

[silent flume]

Neither, but if she did say it, then its canon

and I wouldnt find it shocking that she made -Merlin- of all wizards the goat

[boreal shuttle]

"Merlin is the most famous wizard of all time. He is sometimes known as the Prince of Enchanters and was part of the Court of King Arthur." - that's a direct quote from his Pottermore Chocolate Frog Card but yeah, it's somewhat incidental and not direct confirmation

[silent flume]

Yeah thats all I know aswell regarding his status among wizards, if she did say it Im guessing it was in some interview somewhere

[boreal shuttle]

And to be fair, JKR said a lot of weird stuff during interviews and sometimes contradicted herself later on, so it's easy to mix things up lol

[random moon]

Merlin is considered the most famous wizard of all time and sure he was powerful but I don’t think he was the most powerful. Just famous from his deeds throughly his life

[boreal shuttle]

Since magic evolved, it's not unlikely that he would have been outclassed by the likes of Dumbledore, Grindelwald and Riddle - agreed.

[silent flume]

it is, but in regards to whos the best, she has the final say, similar to Martin with Jaime Lannister always being touted as the goat, even though he doesnt have the accomplishments to match that status

So its a big -if-, if she said it, it is what it is, if not, then its up for debate

[stuck epoch]

thats a bold thing to say. over the times many things are forgotten and the things he himself learned are not necessarily written down

the magic of 1000 years ago could be way more powerful than the magic right now

[silent flume]

Agreed, I wouldnt even suggest that wizards today are guarenteed to be more advanced than wizards of yesteryear, magic is a weird thing, sure there may be some new spells these days, but I imagine there is magic that has been forgotten, such as this "Ancient magic" we hear of now

Godric n his lot likely had spells back then that arent in use today

[violet isle]

the laws would also be more lax then making some curses legal

[silent flume]

yeah the curses have been unforgivable for roughly 2-3 centuries, so not in Godrics day

Where they was likely common af

[stuck epoch]

not to mention that back then magic may also be more necessary for self-defenses purposes or fighting in general

[silent flume]

duellists were likely far better aswell, due to duelling way more often, so would be way more experienced

[silent flume]

Idd

[stuck epoch]

idd?

[silent flume]

Indeed.

[stuck epoch]

ah

[silent flume]

Godric is likely the best duellist that ever lived, given how often he was meant to have duelled and given hes from an era of several great legendary wizards and being the best among them in duelling

[stuck epoch]

and merlin and dumbledore etc. are the only known powerful wizards there may also have been a far more powerful magician just not known to the world

[silent flume]

Merlin is likely one of the best enchanters ever, that was his thing, enchanting, and Dumbledor is very very well rounded, likely one of the cleverest/wisest wizards.

[stuck epoch]

dumbledores main thing was transfiguration

[silent flume]

Dumbledor even learnt parcelmouth, can understand it but not speak it, learnt about the animagi stuff to the point of being able to teach it well despite not even being an animagi himself

Dumbledor is very very versed in many many forms of magic

[stuck epoch]

but he stagnated after becoming headmaster so many of his living years were not that efficient when it comes to becoming more powerful

[silent flume]

Unsure really, I mean he just continued to absorb information

[stuck epoch]

or even when he became professor

[boreal shuttle]

Could be, but it's unlikely to be imo, considering the information we do have. Things evolve, that's the natural order of things and there's no reason for magic to be different - and even if we humour that idea, at the end of the day it's more feasible for a wizard of the caliber of these three to learn forgotten magic than it is for someone like Merlin to learn magic that doesn't yet exist.

At the end of the day nothing we know from HP/Wizarding World lore suggests that magic was stronger in the past and we have several cases of powerful magic being invented in "recent" times.

[silent flume]

Hes the head of the great wizards of his age

[stuck epoch]

yes but he also had far more responsibilities he had to prioritize

so while he had more opportunities to get knowledge he also had less time to study it

[silent flume]

Wizards create spells, so alot of todays stuff could hypothetically be stuff that was around ages ago but forgotten, so rediscovered instead of "invented" could be possible

[silent flume]

yeah ofc, which if anything lends to his growing abilities as a leader and his wisdom, Dumbledor is something else

[stuck epoch]

no things dont just evolve thats evidently seen in history. in fact things degrade if left alone without much progress

[silent flume]

Combine his actual skills/abilities with his experience/wisdom, Dumbledor is a top wizard of all times

[stuck epoch]

and the most powerful spells are from long ago

[silent flume]

dark ages are a fantastic example

[boreal shuttle]

Yeah, it could definitely be possible but we really have zero canon sources to back that up. We know next to nothing about things like that in general, which obviously makes theorycrafting super interesting but talking strictly lore, it's very streamlined

[stuck epoch]

pretty much every civilization is a great example

[silent flume]

Yeah ofc, we have to assume when someone invents a spell, they truly have invented it

Until stated otherwise

Ancient magic should be abit of an eye opener though to what the wizards of old were capable of, when we learn more about it.

[boreal shuttle]

Yes, left alone without much progress and nothing we know from the lore suggests that this ever happened. We're not in the theory channel here :p

[stuck epoch]

ancient magic is pretty much the core of magic

[silent flume]

we dont know enough about it yet really do we?

We'll be finding out its usefulness in HL

[stuck epoch]

cool that we are not in theory channel but thats not a theory thats just how things are

the lore suggests neither much progress nor the lack of progress

[silent flume]

Agreed, I cant see a helluva lot of progress outside culture.

Infact the wizarding world culturally seems about a century behind the muggle world

So due to magic, likely dont evolve in alot of areas as quick

[boreal shuttle]

That's not true, you have to only look at Avada Kedavra for that. In the grand scheme of things it's still a somewhat recent spell

[stuck epoch]

ok one spell that not even many use

[silent flume]

How recent? the unforgivable curses have only been classed as such for about 2-3 centuries.

[stuck epoch]

and is somewhat recent

[silent flume]

So its not exactly brand new either

[stuck epoch]

thats not much progress

[silent flume]

A couple of spells here n there every 3-400 years isnt exactly crazy progress, no.

given the OG's were like 1000 years ago

Maybe todays top wizards know what? an extra 4-5 spells?

[stuck epoch]

and while a few hundred years are rather recent in the overall history we have no idea what spells existed a thousand years ago so you cant say that creating a few spells is much progress

[silent flume]

And given todays top wizards spend alot of their time either teaching in a school of kids, or locked away in Nurmengard, I cant see how they would excel the wizards of old who in the medieval period was likely fighting all the time.

Not for a couple months every 20 years

[boreal shuttle]

The Severing Charm, which is an absolute staple, was invented during the 15th century, the Entrail-Expelling Curse was invented during the 17th century, communicating via the Patronus charm was invented by Dumbledore himself, there has been no known user of unsupported flight since Voldemort apparently invented it

And that's just stuff I can think of off the top of my head

There's plenty of progress and the evolution of impressive magical feats

[stuck epoch]

so one charm that most of the magical world cant even use or wouldnt use that way, and unsupported flight which no one who is alive knows how to

with 2 other spells that are more useful

[boreal shuttle]

I've given you five examples off the top of my head in comparison to the zero you came up with, yes. There is clear evidence of magic evolving and zero evidence of it stagnating or regressing.

[stuck epoch]

and diffindo not being a thing back then is rather doubtful

[stuck epoch]

2 of which no one uses and one hardly any uses

[boreal shuttle]

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Delfina_Crimp

[stuck epoch]

so only 2 examples really one of which has probably been a thing for longer than just recently

500 years ago is not really recent

[silent flume]

the unsupported flight is a movie invention no?

Not actually in the books

[boreal shuttle]

How does that matter regarding the topic at hand? Even if just one person uses it, the point remains.

[stuck epoch]

no thats not progress

if no one uses it it might as well not exist at all

[boreal shuttle]

Voldemort and Snape did it in the books as well

[stuck epoch]

and both are dead

[silent flume]

there has been some impressive spells invented in that time, agreed

[silent flume]

Did they? is that the smokey flight thing we see alot in the films, both with the order and deatheaters using it? white and black smoke respectively

Because if so, well, plenty of people can use it

[stuck epoch]

no the smokey flight is apparation just visualized

[silent flume]

ahhh right

[boreal shuttle]

Delphini isn't and whether we like it or not, she's canon.

[silent flume]

ugh, dont remind us xD

[stuck epoch]

voldy and snape did it in the books yes and both are dead

[silent flume]

Thats the most fanficy canon stuff Ive ever seen

[random moon]

That wasn’t unsupported flight, that was a visual representation of Apparition for the sake of the audience so the could follow it better and differentiate the good guys from the bad guys

[stuck epoch]

we can change that

[silent flume]

we literally cant

[boreal shuttle]

Sadly

xD

[stuck epoch]

that being alive thing

not the canon thing

[silent flume]

ahah right yhyh

we get a limited version atleast in HL

Which Im stoked for

That is one of the visually cooler things in the films

[silent flume]

ahah

[random moon]

There has been a lot of inventions in the more recent is WW history that have been useful

Dumbledores discoveries for dragon blood, the Wolfsbane potion. Many other potions with benefits

[boreal shuttle]

I always hated that tbh. That and magic just all turning into same-colored beams save for when behemoths like the aforementioned three fought

[silent flume]

cant lie, the delphini/scorpio sequel type stuff really feels like it was written by some teenage fan with limited creativity

[silent flume]

yeah I would imagine potion making deffo evolved, feels obvious

[stuck epoch]

we need some lore from long ago not just a few hundred years

[silent flume]

ancient magic, we'll see how ancient it is, n hopefully HL has some kinda "database" thing filled with lore

[boreal shuttle]

I'm like 99% sure that JKR only gave her okay for the money - I have a really hard time believing she was directly involved in anything major. Even the FB movies, which have a lot of problems because of Newt having to be the focal character (especially 2 and 3) feel way more consistent

[silent flume]

I hope these lot extend abit, take abit of a risk with creativity and extended universe lore

[silent flume]

Likely, but I imagine she also made them stick to as much of the books as possible

Which they likely would have agreed to, given how successful the books were

[boreal shuttle]

Yeah. I just refuse to believe that JKR would ever write adult Harry as such a shell of his former self

[silent flume]

oh you on about the stuff that came after? all that delphini/scorpio nonsense? I hope so

[stuck epoch]

harry had more luck than anything else tbh

[silent flume]

It seems stupidly lame compared to her own writing

I cant imagine she went from being a fantastic story creator to crap in a few years

[stuck epoch]

dont really know what happened in the thing but in the books harry had more luck than anything

[boreal shuttle]

Harry had plenty of luck, true, but first and foremost he had more integrity and moral fiber than 10 people combined. Pretty much everyone else would have failed despite being lucky

[stuck epoch]

i think she didnt even really write it but it was based on something she wrote and someone else wrote this and she just gave her ok

[random moon]

It came across more like fanfiction lol

What with Voldy suddenly having an unknown daughter born before the Battle of Hogwarts and Draco and Harry’s kids being the focal point and messing stuff up

[silent flume]

harrys a pure plot device, hes as clever and tough and good as the story requires

[silent flume]

it really did

as much as I love the wizarding world, harry is one of my least favourite parts of it funnily enough lol

I dont dislike the char, I just find him pretty boring

dont know if its the char or the actor, but I never got "main char hero" vybes -naturally- from him

he doesnt strike me as charismatic

[boreal shuttle]

I mostly disagree with that. Harry consistently fails and needs plenty of help but all his victories and achievements feel very geniune and in-character to me.

He's not meant to be charismatic imo, most people wouldn't be with a childhood like that.

[silent flume]

yeah he fails until he needs to stop failing in order to win the day

The forced "underdog"

Who always wins in the end

Similar to Rocky Balboa

[boreal shuttle]

I mean... that's literally 101 story telling in any hero tale ever. They fail until they don't, what else is there?

if you disregard the mary sues

[stuck epoch]

it is meant as a child story and he is the MC so he cant loose

[silent flume]

I agree most likely wouldnt, but some would excel if anything, groomed to live up to this heroic image of the "chosen one"

[stuck epoch]

thats just how it be

[silent flume]

PR'd up to the max

See, Harry strikes me as abit of a mary sue/"underdog" combo

Hes not a convincing underdog imo, cuz he always wins

You can only be an underdog and win so many times before your no longer an underdog

rocky had that issue as a char

[boreal shuttle]

he literally loses repeatedly over the course of the story, in different ways. Obviously Voldemort doesn't win in the end and that has very little to do with it being a book for children - there are like 100 examples for the good guys winning for every example of the bad guys winning in pretty much any form of media.

[stuck epoch]

i meant that he cant loose overall

always comes out on top in the end

which is meant that way as it is a hero story thing

[boreal shuttle]

He lost his childhood and his innocence before the story even started, idk what's more underdog than that. And he really doesn't fit the mary sue trope, he doesn't magically come up with stuff or learn magic on the fly. He struggles and needs help, a lot

[silent flume]

I think its more the acting that puts me off of harry

Daniel just doesnt convince me as a hero/fighter/winner

[silent flume]

Well yeah, the extras need to be of some use

[boreal shuttle]

I liked him in some movies, less so in others. He was fantastic in OotP imo

[silent flume]

I think its his emotional range/expressions that just dont convince me xD

[stuck epoch]

he is but a child so give him some credit

[boreal shuttle]

He's not a grandiose actor, that's for sure. Then again, the same can be said for all the child actors

[silent flume]

He feels like someone who's -trying- to act, it doesnt feel convincing for me

[stuck epoch]

yes so pretty much every child actor in a nutshell

[silent flume]

Tom was better imo, as was hermione and even ron, neville aswell, their chars felt more convincing

Harry felt like the odd one out who just happened to land the biggest role for me

[boreal shuttle]

I don't really agree with that but I can see where you're coming from - might just be because he had the most screen time, obviously, and the most emotional and important scenes. Though I do agree that Tom Felton played the part of Malfoy really well

especially in HBP

[silent flume]

An example is when Harry was walking down Bellatrix, even though Harry is basically one of the most successful/"powerful" chars in most of the story (ie he always wins in the end, hes still alive despite the odds) it just felt like the least intimidating person ever to be walking someone down, I didnt get any intimidating factor from when he was flitting in n out of that "dark thoughts" bit, with Volde chatting to him ect

Just felt like a nerd walking down someone who should be able to dunk on him with zero effort

Now you compare that to say, an Anakin Skywalker, walking someone down and having dark thoughts, thats intimidating, Harry is far from, no wonder Bellatrix was basically laughing

[boreal shuttle]

That particular scene was 10 times as impactful in the book, I agree with that. Daniel is generally at his worst when it comes to shouting and really intense scenes

[silent flume]

Thats what I mean, when he tries the anger/violent thing, its just not convincing, Im sure the books portray it far better, Daniel just cant do the intimidation thing

Despite how powerful he basically is

Id be more scared of Neville if he lost his temper

[boreal shuttle]

I mostly liked his portrayal of everyday Harry and the angsty teenager stuff, he really portrayed that quite brilliantly. But yeah, he always felt a little out of place / not believable during the intense moments

[silent flume]

Yeah he does that part far better

And agreed, I just think his emotional range is lacking huge

For me it never got better, even after years

[boreal shuttle]

You can also see that in the stuff he did since HP. He's by no means an outstanding actor, he's pretty good at best.

[silent flume]

aye, I think Emma is a far better actress tbh

[boreal shuttle]

It didn't help that most of the adults were/are absolutely fantastic actors

[wind scarab]

that's not even a question Emma>Daniel

[silent flume]

Yeah they had some seriously top notch actors

[boreal shuttle]

like, HP had so much immense talent when it comes to its adult actors

[silent flume]

I honestly believe Robert Patterson woulda made a far better Harry Potter he even looks more like James imo

[boreal shuttle]

tbh, I think Emma is an okay actress at best too. She always "tries too hard" if that makes sense, which is saying something considering Hermione's character

[silent flume]

And atleast Robert could do it all, the cool guy moments and the angry moments

[silent flume]

Yeah I get that

[boreal shuttle]

He's a great actor, yeah. It's cool that he finally gets the recognition he deserves

[silent flume]

Yeah the Edward Cullen thing almost trapped him xD

he coulda been forever known as edgy emo boyfriend had he not landed the other roles when he did

loved the actor they picked for a young riddle aswell, he felt like what a young riddle should be like

I wouldnt even mind a series about him

[boreal shuttle]

The first or the second?

[silent flume]

both tbh, prefered the one we saw in the scene with slughorn though, he had abit of a more intelligent/cunning vybe

[boreal shuttle]

I preferred the look of the first but definitely the vibe and delivery of the second one, yeah.

[silent flume]

you combine the two, you have the ultimate riddle acting

[boreal shuttle]

The first felt a little too openly aggressive for what we know of a young Tom Riddle

[silent flume]

Yeah, agreed, the second feels way more conniving

[trail venture]

Hi. Is this game based on before or after Harry potter?

[silent flume]

Before, by about a century

[trail venture]

Oh damn, nicee

[silent flume]

its like 2 years before Dumbledor starts as a student

[boreal shuttle]

Thank god for that btw, a much better choice

[silent flume]

aye

I wouldnt have wanted this game just be a movie-esque game based off Harry n his chums

Glad we pick our own char in a fresh setting, our own house ect ect, its the ultimate rpg for a potter fan

[boreal shuttle]

Yeah, Harry had 7 books and his story ended satisfactorily, despite some grievances with the epilogue - let the man be lol. The Wizarding World has so much potential

[silent flume]

thats what I wanna see, I wanna start seing more extended universe stuff now, similar to what happened with the Star Wars franchise, Luke Skywalker is all well n good, but it gets boring after a while, glad they added to the universe, hope to see more of this in Wizarding World

Id like the games to stay away from the 90s era now

[boreal shuttle]

It'd extremely interesting to see stuff from the early Hogwarts days too, minus the pooping in the halls bit lol.

Or something from different wizarding schools.

[silent flume]

lol, n yeah Im looking forward to the whole "Castle secrets" stuff, like hidden passageways ect

[boreal shuttle]

Most notably Castelobruxo and Mahoutokoro

[silent flume]

The Ugandan school I was reading about not long ago, seems super interesting tbh

[boreal shuttle]

That too, yeah

[silent flume]

Apparently the largest n maybe oldest school in the world

[boreal shuttle]

JKR created a fantastic world, most of it is just lacking in details. Plenty of possibilities for EU-like content

[silent flume]

deffo, a game targetted at ivormorny would be cool also

capture some more of that american audience/fanbase

[brave echo]

@grim blade One more quidditch question , If each team scores equal points and if the time is over then how will the winner be decided ?

[steel hamlet]

Quidditch only ends once the snitch is caught or both teams agree to end the game. The longest game in WW history took 6 months iirc.

Though, the golden snitch is worth 150 points. So a team could still win even if the opposing team catches the snitch, given they’ve scored more points

[shy swallow]

Lol I love Harry potter, but sometimes it’s so chaotic and unrealistic (obviously) 😂
imagine a soccer or basketball game lasting for 6 months 😭💀
I guess that’s why it’s fantasy lol

[steel hamlet]

Yeah, first time I read it I was in disbelief lol. 1 week would’ve sent the same message but it had to be 6 MONTHS

[olive idol]

In a 6 month game, the number of points scored must have made the 150 from the golden snitch irrelevant.

[steel hamlet]

Yes that’s why I said that

Still, to end it, it must be caught

Also maybe they were tied, even after 6 months

Both scoring somewhat equal points

[midnight cave]

How good of a dueler was snape?

I know he’s a hero and everything but we know very little of his fighting capabilities

[short bolt]

I recall seeing someone explain this not too long ago.

In Deathly Hallows part 2, when ||McGonagall attacks him, he deflects her attacks to the two death eaters behind him before escaping. That might have been deliberate.||

[random moon]

Probably yeah so they would be incapacitated and not try to retaliate against Minerva

[sour yew]

It was exactly deliberate

[brave echo]

I thought there were going to be like a penalty or something like what we have in football

[brazen bobcat]

Remember when Filch said they used to hang student by their thumbs in the dungeons for punishment 💀

[earnest linden]

I always wondered where he got that notion considering before his employ his role was taken by two people. Not 1

[brazen bobcat]

True 😂

[brave echo]

Is this from the books ?

[brazen bobcat]

No, I think he says it in the first movie when they go to hagrid for detention in the forest. He hold up his lantern and goes like "those were the days" before going back to the castle

[frail breach]

im pretty sure its mentioned in the fifth book isnt it? i could be wrong tho, havent read them in like a year lol

[stuck epoch]

this is true not sure about the fifth one

he also still has shackles in his office and talks about it from a point that he himself did it so we might see this kinda punishment in HL but wouldnt bet on it

[frail breach]

i vaguely remember filch talking to himself about it when harrys in umbridges office under the invisibility cloak
not 100% sure whether it was specifically hanging students by the thumbs tho

[brave echo]

Really ? I gotta rewatch the movie

[stuck epoch]

i love how he isnt allowed to hang children on their ankles for punishment but 4 first year students have to go into the forbidden forest as punishment

id rather hand on my ankles than go in there but yea sure "old punishments are old for a reason"

[brave echo]

He just wanted harry to die

[brazen bobcat]

here, i time stamped it xd https://youtu.be/6k_B5gwAfds?t=89

god I miss thescreaming 😂

[stuck epoch]

no the exact opposite (filch didnt decide the punishment btw)

[brazen bobcat]

No, but he liked carrying out the punishements, he was one bitter man

[stuck epoch]

yes filch did like it

but i doubt that filch decided the punishment

[brazen bobcat]

No the teachers do

Mcgonnagal gave us detention remember? and then filch takes us there

[stuck epoch]

yes.. thats why i said that

[brazen bobcat]

Do we thing professor Black was for the thumb punishements? 😂

[brave echo]

Lol yeah.

[brave echo]

Dumbledore is a strange man. At first he said that the dark forest is forbidden and next he is sending students for detention there

[brave echo]

Is it allowed to go to other common rooms or is it forbidden ?

[uneven garnet]

I’m hoping we can but not on free will

[brave echo]

I'm hoping we see some stealth missions like sneaking in to other common rooms to get something as part of a mission.

[uneven garnet]

+1

Same i wanna do this as well

[brave echo]

The invisibility cloak will come in handy here

[brave echo]

We Are expecting so much from the game but what if the game fails to deliver ?

[uneven garnet]

Games not out yet, I’m sure the game will be amazing

[stuck epoch]

in school rules its forbidden

but who cares about school rules anyways

[stuck epoch]

it wont really as you cant go inside with it unless its open

and it probably wont be in the game anyways

[brave echo]

I'm sure , I have seen someone sneaking into the restricted section in the trailer and got caught so im sure school rules apply

[brave echo]

It won't be so you have to sneak in

[stuck epoch]

yes and thats not what i said.. not caring about them doesnt mean that they are not there

[stuck epoch]

well you cant thats the thing there is only one entrance and you cant open it unless you are from this house and know the password for some

[brave echo]

I do remember in the trailer that the main character got invisible and cast a petrificus totalus spell on someone so you can go invisible. If you go invisible then if a Slytherin student goes in you can sneak in behind them before the door closes

[stuck epoch]

yes there is a invisibility spell i am aware. this probably wont work tho

it might but i wouldnt bet on it

[brave echo]

Why ?

[stuck epoch]

time wise its hard

to near and you might get exposed to far and you might not make it

just use polyjuice and go with someone

and hope they dont know each other

[brave echo]

Does anyone know when was the three headed dog came to Hogwarts ?

[stuck epoch]

in harrys first year

it was only there to protect the stone

[brave echo]

So hagrid bought a fully adult dog to in the to third floor to guard the stone.

[stuck epoch]

yes

how he did it when he feeds him if he gets out sometimes we dont know

all we know is that after the events he was freed and sent back to greek iirc

[brave echo]

But how did hagrid make it get in the first place , It can't even fit its head through the door

[stuck epoch]

as i said we dont know

magic ig

not from hagrid but dumbledore in this case then

[brave echo]

So in that case there is no three headed dog in the game but can we still go to the third floor ?

[stuck epoch]

there is atleast no three headed dog in the school

there might be one in the game although i doubt it

and we probably can explore most/all of hogwarts

[brave echo]

So does the third floor have anything other than that room where the the dog used to be ?

[stuck epoch]

not what i meant

it might be in the forest or the open world

but wont be inside the school

but i doubt that they put a cerberus (its what the doggo is called) in the game as it doesnt usually live in britain

[brave echo]

how big is the third floor ? From the movie it looks like there is a large corridor and the end leads through a door where the dog stays .

Does the books say anything else about the third floor ?

[stuck epoch]

well what we saw was only a corridor of the third floor its as big as most floors in hogwarts

[brave echo]

Is the third floor the last floor or does it go beyond that ?

[stuck epoch]

it goes way beyond that

it a giant castle with many towers

[brave echo]

Woah

How many floors does it have ?

[random moon]

7 I think?

[stuck epoch]

its a seven storey high building with a hundred and forty-two staircases with dungeons and the highest point would be the astronomy tower which is around 39 meters (127 feet if im doing math correctly)

imma be honest not sure if the 39 m are correct tho it looks higher in perspective but that could be due to the model they used to film

[toxic lodge]

nice

[midnight cave]

If Malfoy dueled Ron,who would win?

Ron has always kinda been the main character BFF,no skill as a wizard from what i could see

[barren mountain]

Probably Malfoy even though I hate to say it, although if they did have time before their duel it would be Ron because Hermione would for sure teach him the best spells to win

[barren mountain]

^^

[vivid owl]

It depends on their age, 5th year Ron could beat 5th year Malfoy, but 6th year, well Malfoy spent his summer having his crazy Aunt Bella happily teach him all sorts of curses, so most likely Malfoy.

Older again and Ron would most likely win again as he does become an auror and is pretty damned decent.

also 4th year and before, Malfoy would wipe the floor with Ron

[earnest linden]

I mean In the bathroom scene only reason Harry won was beacause of a spell never casted before.

Amd nearly killed draco.

[vivid owl]

That's more because Harry didn't actually expect Draco to attack him

[earnest linden]

I mean you chase your bully down the hall and corner them in a bathroom. Fighting back is gonna be expected.

[vivid owl]

Harry's by and far the better fighter, but he just thought it'd be a standoff then one of them would leave, pretty much how their exchanges have gone before

[worthy trench]

Movie Ginny stomps all with Reducto

[earnest linden]

Idk Lunas got a pretty good handle on levicorpus.

[earnest linden]

True. It’s been better if they was equally matched. Also I kinda wished those two were friends. Idk just you know the whole prince and the pauper trope.

[vivid owl]

Well we've got fan fiction for that

lol

[worthy trench]

Reducto's quicker to say

[vivid owl]

but that's not #lore

[worthy trench]

depends on who's faster

[vivid owl]

non-verbal casting

[worthy trench]

Actually Ginny may have stopped using the spell cos she'd bring the damn room down

like she'd bring down hogwarts

[earnest linden]

I’d rather not. Tbh.

[worthy trench]

So i just an AI created images of Herpo the Foul and i need brain bleach cos my god...

[earnest linden]

Wordless casting.

[vivid owl]

Why not? As long as you make good use of the search filters, you can avoid stuff you don't want to see.

[worthy trench]

U still have to say the spell in ur head

i think

[earnest linden]

Is not the same.

[worthy trench]

anyway don't look up herpo the foul AI images

cos yikes....

[earnest linden]

Thx. I shall.

[worthy trench]

Don't

[vivid owl]

That's the point.

We're getting very #😎off-topic though

so if you want to continue then let's move to there

[plain acorn]

do we know the lore as to why were starting as a 5th year?

[worthy trench]

I mean if u must -. But don't complain to me if u do

[vivid owl]

Homeschooled until it seems parents died for some reason, at least that's the implication from the trailer, though it's not clear.

[worthy trench]

we'll know in feb or devs give more details

[plain acorn]

okay ty

[vivid owl]

probably find out more over the next few months

[earnest linden]

That is what I suggested ages ago.

If anyone remembers back to February.

[random moon]

Or they were believed to be a squib but were actually a late bloomer

[earnest linden]

Maybe we’re keeping it a secret.

Afterall we have ancient magic abilities. No one else has.

[vivid owl]

I don't need to be pinged for a chat I'm still currently active in btw

[earnest linden]

Like we could be from a once thought to be a dead line…. Or a line of squibs…..

[plain acorn]

they're replys not pings

[vivid owl]

which ping unless you turn it off.

[earnest linden]

Soz. Was more replying to that particular lore-theory thread.

[vivid owl]

No worries, just turn off the ping but keep the reply, unless chat is flying at which point ping cos else it's a chore to find.

[vivid owl]

Could be. But also Erevan's idea of a squib line recently come back to the world of magic is also an possibility.

[earnest linden]

That’s why I ping and just leave it on. Also some chats/servers I’m in don’t get frequently looked at so pinging helps with that.

[vivid owl]

Though perhaps and here's a question, the player character might have recently moved to the UK

[earnest linden]

Ooooh. Exotic. Wonder where they were before…

[vivid owl]

Like perhaps we grew up in the US and went to Ilvermorny but have now moved to the UK and so join Hogwarts

[earnest linden]

And should my design be focussed on that…

[vivid owl]

but really we're just guessing and so making #🧠theories

[earnest linden]

Hmmm. Could be. But then I imagine the voice choice would be accented.

[earnest linden]

True

I don’t really know what lore to discuss at present….

[random moon]

Squibs still have the potential for magic in their descendants though, even if they married a Muggle. The gene for magic is still passed down and could manifest in any of their descendants

[vivid owl]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, until we get more info on the game, we've basically talked out all the lore for it.

We've had the same sort of convos several times over now.

[vivid owl]

Like this one for example, we've had this conversation at least 3 times in this channel that I can remember and was a part of.

[main fjord]

Since this game is in the 1800s, there will be no characters from the original?

[glass lynx]

Well Dumbledore might be a first year at some point

[vivid owl]

Binns is in it. If you feel you can put up with the old ghost.

[olive idol]

all the ghosts are there, except moaning myrtle, she is from the 40s

[vivid owl]

Also Phineas Nigellus Black should be at least a teacher

[olive idol]

and the headmaster might might be phineas black

jinx?

[vivid owl]

more likely he's just a normal professor than a teacher at this point as we know he's headmaster until his death in 1925, though we don't know when he became headmaster.

[glass lynx]

so we start in 1890 as 5th year and dumbledore is a first year in 1892

[olive idol]

well, dumbledore was headmaster while riddle went to school, so he had the position for about 50 years at least

so phineas being headmaster 33 years before he died isn't crazy imo

[glass lynx]

dumbledore wasnt headmaster when riddle went to school

[vivid owl]

ye that

[glass lynx]

he was just the transfiguration prof

[olive idol]

oh he was just a professor?

[vivid owl]

Dumbles became headmaster in around the mid 1950s, I want to say 1956 but I'm not sure.

[olive idol]

alright, consider me corrected and convinced. Phineas would probably be a teacher

[olive idol]

so his tenure was only about 40 years then?

[vivid owl]

roughly yeah

making Dippet Headmaster from 1925 - to mid 1950s.

[glass lynx]

wait what ...... dippet was 350 years old holyy

so i just searched for it and this came up

Professor Dippet's term as headmaster ended between March 1965 and March 1971.[8] His immediate successor in the post was Professor Albus Dumbledore,[6] who had been Dippet's Head of Transfiguration.

[vivid owl]

Well that was information I didn't know

old man

[vivid owl]

Also I had the right numbers but the wrong way around when I said 56, oofles

[glass lynx]

^^

[blissful stump]

I am the Hogwarts jedi

[winged comet]

I'm fairly certain dumbledore was born in the 1890s so you may see a prophet article of his birth or of his father's imprisonment but I doubt we will se him as a student

[glass lynx]

he was born 1881

[glass lynx]

here i already said what we might see

[winged comet]

My apologies

[grim blade]

By the way Quittitch seems to work in Harry Potter in most games a tie is fine as it is total points across a season that matter, but that seems to decide who will be in a championship game outside of Hogwarts, and in the case of that game I suppose you could justifiably give it to whoever catches the snitch or do some kind of sudden death or second game. I don’t think this situation is ever covered in the books 🤷‍♂️. For the sake of a multiplayer game non tournament a tie is fine imo. They happen in real sports too.

[brave echo]

Is there anything like a penalty kick in quidditch like we have in soccer if there is a tie ?

[winged comet]

I assume if the points end up in a tie whatever team caught the snitch wins although I assume

[worthy trench]

That;s only from films apparently. If so then its not clear how canonical one can consider that. It seems once something doesn't explicitly contradict the books or PM or JK herself, then it could be considered canon unless overwirtten later

[grim blade]

Not officially within Lore. A game will always have the freedom to make something up though if they desire

[brave echo]

Since the game has three hoops , they can do a penalty by keeper guarding the hoops and one chaser puts it any one of those to make a goal

[olive idol]

I don't think we have the full set of rules for quidditch.

Technically you can tell someone that the rules for basketball are "Two teams of 5 fight over a ball which they must dribble when in their possesion, each has an assigned hoop, and points are gained by throwing the ball through the opposing hoop. Game ends after 1 hour based on who has the most points"

That would let them get started, but it's missing 90% of the actual rules

[olive idol]

that's the equivalent of the rules of quidditch we have probably

[brave echo]

Why didn't Rowling release a set of quidditch rules yet ? It's been more than 20 years

[random moon]

There are rules here

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Quidditch#Rules

JKR has even written a real life copy of Quidditch Through the Ages for charity

[grim blade]

We are talking specifically in the context of a tie

There is no official way to resolve a tie in quidditch

[grim blade]

They could the rules for penalty shots exist and considering how much soccer dna there is in quidditch it probably is ideal for resolving ties if soccer uses that system too

[brave echo]

@grim blade And do you know what is Gryffindor tower about ? It was mentioned in chamber of secrets

[grim blade]

I dont understand the question

[brave echo]

https://youtu.be/0FJUCtFpbTE

Watch this , mcgonnagal cancels quidditch and tells wood to go to Gryffindor tower

[stuck epoch]

thats because its their common room and they would be briefed on the things they need to know there

[brave echo]

There's a separate common room for quidditch players ?

[stuck epoch]

no

they are in gryffindor so the gryffindor common room is theirs

[brave echo]

So Gryffindor tower and Gryffindor common room is the same thing

[stuck epoch]

yea kinda

[dapper copper]

gryffindor common room is in the gryffindor tower

[brave echo]

Ohh okay .

Makes sense

[light quartz]

Well hello 😂

[ornate tapir]

So..... Hi

Lore

[wicked roost]

What’s upppp

[unreal marlin]

[wicked roost]

so what position would y’all be in quidditch 😐

[ornate tapir]

Oh god,

uhhhh

[unreal marlin]

Chaser

[wicked roost]

Good choice

[ornate tapir]

Spectator

I not equiped for the game

[wicked roost]

We need 3 chasers 2 beaters a keeper and a seeker

[light quartz]

I would want to be a keeper or seeker.

[chilly coral]

Beater or Keeper

[unreal marlin]

It just looks the most fun to me xD

[spiral patio]

Chaser

[spiral patio]

yea same

[wicked roost]

Yo we almost got a full team

[light quartz]

Name the ppl and positions lol

[fluid vigil]

Seeker

[chilly coral]

Whose fathers gonna buy us brooms?

[wicked roost]

Why don’t we have a quidditch RP channel against the other houses

[unreal marlin]

Don't worry i've got us covered 😉

[wicked roost]

Draco’s grandpa son

[unreal marlin]

I'll just sell a house elf or 2 xD

[wicked roost]

Fried 😂💀💀

[fluid vigil]

Woow

[chilly coral]

Will we have Nimbus 1800s?

[unreal marlin]

[fluid vigil]

That's mean. Are they worth much

[viral badger]

Guys this topic would fit more in off topic

[fluid vigil]

Poor Dobby

[ornate tapir]

we got it wrong again 💀 💀

[chilly coral]

Can't talk about anything anywhere...

[viral badger]

You can in a appropriate channels this case being off topic

[chilly coral]

Let's try again

[light quartz]

Lol

[brave echo]

@grim blade Is Violence allowed in quidditch ?

[stuck epoch]

It is not

[dapper copper]

I mean hitting a crazy flying cannon ball at the other team feels pretty violent to me 😂

[stuck epoch]

Hitting and kicking other players is not allowed to clarify

[brave echo]

That's exactly what Slytherin did but they didn't get suspended.

[stuck epoch]

You dont get suspended for that but yes that was foul play

[wicked roost]

Yeah but contact is

As long as you don’t seize hold of a player or their broom it’s not a foul

[wicked roost]

Also you’re supposed to root for your home team wth 😂

[stuck epoch]

Yea that was neither the question nor is violence

[stuck epoch]

Couldn’t care less about who wins

[wicked roost]

You’re fun at parties

[stuck epoch]

Yes

When it comes to non sport related things

[wicked roost]

You know what that’s fair my apologies

[stuck epoch]

xDDD

[grim blade]

Buldgers and some bumping but not violence

[umbral mortar]

The nimbus racing broom company formed in 1967, so no

[brave echo]

What brooms did the 1800's have

[boreal shuttle]

Afaik not a single broom from the brands we're used to seeing in the books & movies, because racing brooms weren't a thing until the early to mid 20th century.

[random moon]

Brooms weren’t branded or mass produced until 1926 ish

Before that they were all individually hand made by hobbyists rather than actual brands.

[chilly coral]

Had noooo idea lol

[brave echo]

Even if racing brooms wasn't a thing during the timeline of the game. Broom races have been confirmed in the game and there is even a quidditch team called the crudley canons in the game so Hogwarts still had quidditch even with slow brooms

[boreal shuttle]

Yeah, I'm just saying that we shouldn't expect to see any of the brands we're used to seeing because "modern" Quidditch is dominated by racing brooms, which don't exist during the events of HL.

[brave echo]

Yeah true. Even if quidditch isn't playable. I will just pretend to play quidditch by myself since the quidditch pitch exists in the game.

The game would be perfect if quidditch was included

@grim blade Can you change Hogwarts houses if you wanted to ?

[lean falcon]

On this server you mean?

[stuck epoch]

on this server yes in hogwarts no

[lean falcon]

I mean in wizarding world you can delete your acc and redo everything

So its a yes but like "yes" lol

[stuck epoch]

you can also just choose your house in HL

[brave echo]

I mean in the game

[errant steppe]

I think you would have to make a new save, just like in Skyrim when you chose a faction.

[stuck epoch]

meant hogwarts in the fantasy thing not the website thing

[stuck epoch]

nope

[errant steppe]

It would change the questline too much

Cuz i guess there are exclusive quests bound to houses

[stuck epoch]

dont think it would change the questline at all but thats not how houses in hogwarts work

[brave echo]

I was just asking like if you are in Gryffindor and a few months later , you want to go to Slytherin. If there is a option to change the house.

[frank jewel]

I would hate it if there was house specific quests personally, having to play through the game 4 times to get all the content would be tedious

[stuck epoch]

you can maybe make a new save and play the game again in another house otherwise i dont think so

[brave echo]

So if you are put in a house then you are supposed to stay in that house for 7 years ?

[stuck epoch]

once you are in a house you stay in that house yes

the houses represent your main personality traits so that will hardly change

[boreal shuttle]

The game won't cover all 7 years anyway. Probably only one, three at most.

[brave echo]

Is that how it is in the books as well ?

[stuck epoch]

yes thats canon

for all i know

[brave echo]

Interesting

[stuck epoch]

the houses dont matter that much anyways

so i dont know why you would want to change

[brave echo]

In that case , If the game is more than 50 hours then it would take forever to complete

[brave echo]

I was just asking if it was an option in the wizarding world

[stuck epoch]

nope

not that i know of

[brave echo]

The movies don't cover all of these so there are lot of things about Hogwarts that I don't know

[brave echo]

Thanks

[stuck epoch]

no problem

[brave echo]

Did Wyomping Willow exist in the 1800's ?

[frank jewel]

No

It was planted/placed there when Lupin went to Hogwarts

It, the secret tunnel under it to the shrieking shack were all made specifically because he went there. So during full moons he could go through the tunnel and transform in the shack. The tree we would keep him in and other students out.

[brave echo]

Interesting

[stuck epoch]

no it did exist

it was not planted at hogwarts in the 1800s but did exist as a tree

[lean falcon]

And Dumbledore made up a story about the Shrieking Shack being haunted so nobody would go near it when they heard Lupin during full moons

Lol

[brave echo]

If it was not planted in Hogwarts then why was Snape so protective about that tree ?

[random moon]

Whomping Willow is a species of magical tree. There are others but the one at Hogwarts wasn’t planted until Lupin went to Hogwarts

[stuck epoch]

not planted in the 1800s

[lean falcon]

Snape would use anything as an excuse to ruin a Gryffindors day 😂

[stuck epoch]

not just gryffindors also any other houses day

[lean falcon]

He isnt typically as mean to Slytherins though

[stuck epoch]

nono he is

[lean falcon]

And he particularly "hated" Harry as we know

[frank jewel]

"It was planted in 1971 to disguise the opening of a secret passage leading from the Hogwarts grounds to the Shrieking Shack, a building located in the village of Hogsmeade. "

[stuck epoch]

he wants his house to win and all but does punish if discovered and wasnt all that friendly in general

[lean falcon]

Of course he punishes anyone who missbehaves, no denying that. But the twins claimed he "favoured Slytherins".

[frank jewel]

He does go easier on Slytherin though, not that 'easier' means he's nice to them or anything. but he definitely has a bias

[lean falcon]

Exactly

Maybe I didnt explain myself properly. Wrong choice of words perhaps

[stuck epoch]

well ofc he favoured them all house teachers did favour their own house

[brave echo]

He literally said "Were you in Slytherin and your fate rested with me , Both of you will be on the train home tonight"

So he hated Slytherins too

[lean falcon]

Yes. Because he does punish ANYBODY who breaks rules.

However he is biased towards his house

[frank jewel]

I'd say Mcgonagall was pretty impartial, except maybe when it came to quidditch

[brave echo]

Makes sense

[lean falcon]

The reason why he couldnt expell Harry and Ron was because Minerva was the one to decide

Thats what he meant

[stuck epoch]

nono she did favour gryffindor as well

[frank jewel]

Any example of when she did?

[brave echo]

Yeah , Mcgonnagal is the head of Gryffindor house

[stuck epoch]

not suspending harry and ron

[lean falcon]

The only head of a house to ever be seen taking points from their own house is Minerva.

[stuck epoch]

she didnt even give them a big punishment if even one cant remember rn

[frank jewel]

That's not really an example where she treats her own house better than the others.

[brave echo]

It was only a letter to the parents

[stuck epoch]

thats because we saw only her acting as the role of head of house. we didnt see ravenclaw at all nor did we really see hufflepuff and not snape acting out his role

[lean falcon]

?

[brave echo]

Who is the head of ravenclaw and Hufflepuff ?

[stuck epoch]

we dont see any examples of other "head of houses" (what the teachers are called) for other houses

we only really see her as the story is about harry who is in gryffindor

[lean falcon]

@brave echo Flitwick and Sprout.

[lean falcon]

We see teachers take points from houses. Overall. But the only one to take from their own was Minerva.

Not saying she is better. Just stating a fact.

[stuck epoch]

yes

[lean falcon]

I love McGonagall but I like Snape better.

[stuck epoch]

as i said we didnt see ravenclaw and hufflepuff at all (as houses)

and hardly any slytherin as well

[frank jewel]

Minerva was pretty impartial. Ron and Harry beat a troll, 10 points. The trio go out at night? -450 points 💀

[lean falcon]

Still doesnt change that from what we can see Minerva seems to treat everyone equally. Not saying she doesnt love her house. But she clearly isnt shy when it comes to putting students in their place.

[lean falcon]

.

[stuck epoch]

lets just agree to disagree then

[frank jewel]

I mean, she gave Draco -150 too, so I don't see any differential treatment

[brave echo]

But how do they even go out ? Aren't the doors locked ?

[lean falcon]

And also Draco got punished even if he helped her, which again proves she treats students fairly and from a logical pov

[stuck epoch]

doors are open they can just walk out

[frank jewel]

But with Snape, Harry and Draco were in a fight? Only Harry got deducted points.

[brave echo]

Door are open even at night ?

[stuck epoch]

but if you get seen you get punished so no one would do it

yes

[stuck epoch]

when again?

you probably right but cant remember

[frank jewel]

I might be misremembering, but I believe it's the scene where Hermione has to go get her teeth shrunk?

[stuck epoch]

ah ok

[brave echo]

They lock the doors when the dementors are roaming around but they don't lock it otherwise . Even Voldemort could have walked right in if he wanted to lol.

[stuck epoch]

dont remember the outcome but that was probably just snape hating harry more than anything

[stuck epoch]

if voldy was still alive yes

they only lock the doors when necessary and it usually isnt

[stuck epoch]

and he probably couldnt

[frank jewel]

Can't remember if Snape deducted points, but he practically bullies Neville and Hermione. So I don't think it's only Harry, although in this instant it definitely was. Though I do think he deducted points from Hermione for answering his questions because he refused to let her answer

[brave echo]

Why Neville ?

[frank jewel]

Because he struggles in the class

[boreal shuttle]

Snape also deducted points from Harry, Ron & Neville for "fighting" when all the former two did was holding Neville back from kicking Malfoy's ass.

[brave echo]

Wait a minute , I don't remember this being in the movie. Is it a deleted scene ?

[boreal shuttle]

And wasn't the second ever point deduction we've seen from him deducting a point from Harry for not "fixing Longbottom's potion" in literally their first potion class lol. Good times

[boreal shuttle]

Yeah, it is

[frank jewel]

The books my friend

[boreal shuttle]

It happened during OotP, Malfoy basically makes fun of the mentally sick/insane and Neville flips

[frank jewel]

Basically lots of examples of Snape being impartial, but I can't think of many if any of Minerva being impartial.

[boreal shuttle]

The best part is: We never see Snape deducting points from Slytherin... but we also never see him awarding any. The man literally never gave a single point to anyone, as far as we know

That's dedication

I'm pretty sure that Minerva took more points from the trio, and Gryffindor in general, than she awarded

She was definitely as impartial as it gets

Maybe not because of the massive point dump she awarded the "ministry six", five of which were Gryffs, after the battle in the DoM, not sure.

[hollow marlin]

Well at the end of the day after the DoM, the headmaster would of given the points if she didn't

So I would say she is still impartial

[boreal shuttle]

Ah, my bad for being ambiguous there. My last point was in regard to her having deducted more points than she awarded, not her being biased.

[hollow marlin]

true she takes more as she expects them all to be better

[modern moth]

My biggest problem is that it "seems" the teachers and everyone in general let the golden trio get away with things and really not get in trouble.

[chilly coral]

Constantly saving everyone's lives and the school will earn you a little leeway

[modern moth]

I do agree on that

[sick verge]

I am worried about a 19th century version of Famous Battle of Hogwarts .....making the 20th century version of Battle of hogwarts a 2nd version of similar events in Canon

I hope it is vision or something

Not actually going to be a battle of hogwarts in 1890s

[sour yew]

Whats this about a battle of hogwarts?

[sick verge]

There is sceenshot of autodesk show character customization shown teacher of battle of hogwarts a and b and c

It is very quick mind you

[sour yew]

Weird, alright

[sick verge]

You think that would broken Canon if did happen?

[sour yew]

No idea tbh

[frosty venture]

This game is not Canon

[sick verge]

Yup

[frosty venture]

Thats also why im ok with it mildly breaking canon or making its own

[sick verge]

I would wonder if legacy would create own timeline?

[modern moth]

I could see Legacy an alternate universe/timeline

[sick verge]

A legacyverse ?

[frosty venture]

That would be cool

[sick verge]

Still it would be Arkham verse

And any family members of potter will show up ?

[frosty venture]

Maybe

We have a black

[modern moth]

and a weasley or two

[frosty venture]

True

We might also get a Dumbledore or two

[modern moth]

doesn't the game take place a year or two before Dumbledore shows up as a student

[frosty venture]

I think so

[sick verge]

Likely Mrs potter the mother of Henry "Harry" Potter

[frosty venture]

Theres a lot of names that can show up

Malfoy is likely, they have been around a long time

Same thing with Lestrange

[sick verge]

Yeah.....

[sour yew]

How do you know its not canon?

They are trying to stick as close to lore as they can, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be canon

[sour yew]

I find that rather dumb, but fair enough understandable

[frosty venture]

I think its better

Gives them more freedom

[sour yew]

Eh I guess

[sick verge]

Did new films kinda failed as Harry Potter prequel series ?....this game looks like better prequel than the new beast films

[sour yew]

Idk man I liked the Beasts films

[modern moth]

I enjoyed the fantastic beast movies

[sick verge]

First one is awesome to me but 2nd kinda looks weak

[frosty venture]

I liked the Beast films too

[modern moth]

I really enjoyed the second one. I thought it was pretty strong. I didn't watch the 3rd one

[sick verge]

But I don't say that beasts films are good or bad prequel but a prequel is not always great ideas

It is hard to tell stories took place in the past thst you know how go to happen

I thought place In late 1800 is smart money move

Then 1920s to 1930s

[earnest linden]

im expecting phineas to be headmaster as he was during dumbledores time 2 years after this game and lore has him being headmaster until the 1900s

when amando dippet takes over

[frosty venture]

Yah, that seems likely

And I think that will be really cool

[earnest linden]

Yeh.

I’m curious about the relation between professor fig and known squib mrs fig….?!

[sick verge]

Similar names?

[earnest linden]

Wondering if fig was her maiden or married name. And if married was she married to a wizard of fig family or was they also a squib. ?

[sick verge]

That happens in life

[earnest linden]

Oh I know. But small world coincidences are also part of life.

[sick verge]

I hope black is not 100 jerk

But more complex individuals

[umbral mortar]

I agree

[umbral mortar]

I doubt they are related. Their surnames are different. It's Eleazar Fig and Arabella Figg.

[earnest linden]

I mean I know a last name wig is related to a few others spelt Whig and wig and whigg. We’re talking about a time when not everyone was literate. Squibs weren’t taught beyond the home and some weren’t taught at all look at the gaunts. Barely any magic in them. Didn’t attend Hogwarts, was homeschooled and all sorts of societal problems because of it. You have the lestrange family. Pretty sure they would have drowned any squibs in their family.

[boreal shuttle]

There's really nothing to suggest that this is the case. Furthermore, if the devs wanted them to have a connection via relation, however distant or as an easter egg, why not just use the same spelling? I guess it's possible that they want it to be ambiguous but that seems like a lot of "if's" for a simple connection to a minor character such as Mrs. Figg.

[frosty venture]

I would assume all wizards are literate

[worthy trench]

In certain time periods not nessecarily and not nessecarily the case even in 20th century.

[frosty venture]

I mean yah I guess, but I feel like with the way wizards live and what happens in Hogwarts, being able to read and write is natural

[worthy trench]

Well in older times not so much

Not everyone was taught how to read or write

or knew how to read even if they were going there

They'd be taught there if so

i guess

I mean if still have the issue now in some countries

[frosty venture]

I mean I guess some like backwater wizards but anyone going to the 11 schools would know how to read or write or learn there

[worthy trench]

Unless wizards have a spell to give them automatic lanaguage reading an writing then they have to learn like muggles do

[worthy trench]

Either they knew by then or they didn't and presumably would be taught how to there if it was the latter for them

especially in older times

[earnest linden]

Hagrid: his name is vvvvv….
Harry: why don’t you write it down.
Hagrid: nah I can’t spell it.

Also we’re talking 1800s. Compulsory schooling in “developed countries” is real actively new in the mid-20th. 19th century they still had work houses where child labour still happened. Sure it’s being phased out by 1890, but still exists.

[modern moth]

I like how Hagrid scared the dursley's by knocking the door down

[earnest linden]

Lol.

Like the pig tail.

[frosty venture]

You think the pig tail is made of pig meat or human meat?

[earnest linden]

Human meat.