🙎┃character-guides

[olive sun]

or outplay ur opponents

[compact ledge]

I want to win / satisfaction to play well my character

[olive sun]

i won't recommend tarka for someone who's just played the game for 2 weeks though

like yeah he's cool and all

but other characters are cool too if you master them

[compact ledge]

I m not afraid to pass through weeks of training for tarka étc , if u telling me that if I’m mastering it’s one of best

[olive sun]

don't think he is 😂

[compact ledge]

Ok that’s my question lol

If I master it he s not best

Is kylin better for duo trio )

?*

[olive sun]

trios tarka is very... hmm, how should i put it

he has the potential to be insane

but it require alot of works, and i mean ALOT

doesn't have many team play option

you're mostly play on your own

and follows ur teammate opening

to dish out as much dmg as possible during ur ult

but trios teamwork matter the most

like if you get ulted by a v1 viper you'll die anyway

you don't really have an answer for meta trios comps

[compact ledge]

I see , would u recommand kylin over tarka or both are similar in terms oof what I want to do

Im not searching meta Im searching gameplay i like

[olive sun]

kylin is ok

[compact ledge]

That’s why I ask for tarka/kylin coz they are my favs

F2 v1 for kylin yeah ?

[olive sun]

there's no character that is ''not worth'' to main

[olive sun]

you could run whatever honestly, though the F combo breaker is usually used in trios

for Vs, V1 is safer

but less potential

V2 is riskier and a V2 kylin usually need a zip by his side, zip constantly healing him so he get more slashes

it has the potential to outperform v1, but then again if ur zip exploded or unable to heal you then it could be worse than just running v1

zip hadi kylin used to be one of the strongest, if not the strongest trios comp

[tranquil wagon]

hello Shayol Wei is good for beguinner ?

[compact ledge]

@olive sun ty bro

[magic hinge]

He just looks really cool

[magic hinge]

Until they nerfed hadi and kylin

And set balance to…

No they made Cyra

[olive sun]

deserved nerf though

zip hadi kylin is literally unbeatable

[magic hinge]

Well trio teamplay is insane anyway

You can play meta however you like, but if you’re teamplay is shit, you’re getting trampled by something like shayol, yueshan and Akos or smth

[magic hinge]

Was it that insane?

[kind ginkgo]

she works well

only thing, be careful, it's easy to learn a lot of bad habits by playing her, since she offers huge levels of security in a neutral fight 👍

[olive sun]

yeah

a good hadi would be able to put out more than 1 cube each fight
while zip provide kylin unlimited slashes
kylin v2 slashes hurts alot back then and the multiple staggers is just too much

[magic hinge]

The kylin stagger yeah, I played lots of duo when he just came out

And not wanting to succumb to meta, I refused to unlock him

When I did, he got nerfed the next day

And then again

I think twice already or even thrice he got nerfed

[olive sun]

yeah i don't remember

but after the kylin nerf the comp is still solid

it's not as strong as before but still good

but then hadi nerf hits and the comp is dead

cuz hadi can't do the ''V first, put out the cube, turn off V, go fight, get rage for next V next cube'' anymore

[tranquil wagon]

@kind ginkgo thanks you for advice

[magic hinge]

Yeah 15 sec no rage and more rage loss on activation is robbery

And does tarkas v1 ult still last 24 sec?

I swear it feels a lot less

[olive sun]

24 in solo, 32 in duo/trio

[compact ledge]

Is kurumu able to carry a game ?

Kurumi

[karmic wolf]

With her perma morale boost buff, she can make anything possible

[kind ginkgo]

yes, but prolly not how you imagine it

[compact ledge]

I see lol I’m exploring all possibility my teammates is actually stiking on shayol

So looking for something good but also with good vibes/skins lol

[kind ginkgo]

kurumi can make a team immortal, but she is pretty vulnerable herself

so you need to position yourself accordingly and play around your allies for peeling

[magic hinge]

And you can’t atack while using F

[kind ginkgo]

yep

[magic hinge]

You can have insane impact as temulch in trios

[chrome cliff]

She can do good plays, but she cannot carry a game by herself

Kurumi is my most played character and when I play with people who deal less than 14k average damage or have a KD below 2.0 on Frontline characters, it's very difficult to win good lobbies tbh

Even if I revive them 2-3x per fight, they are just going to die again

And there are people who will die all the time, no matter how much you do to protect them

For example, I recently played with someone who got double grabbed in 4 out of 4 Monk fights

Bro just doesn't know how to move against Monk, I can F and V for him and revive him multiple times, he's still gonna die

Kurumi's teammates need to be on a certain skill level, otherwise she doesn't have a real impact on fights (other than dragging them out or playing for position points at the end)

[magic hinge]

Oooooh that makes sense

[compact ledge]

Thank you guys for ur answers

[compact ledge]

@magic hinge what’s ur thought on Feria ult ? Useless just fun or there is an utility ?

[magic hinge]

Feria ult is useful and underrated in my opinion

People prefer to use her v2, I think

First call knocks people back and your teammates can pilot the mecha

In trios I also often see the silence f, so you‘ll essentially be very dependent on your own neutral

Essentially a supporting role, you‘ll probably be the one to call who to focus on; silence them and then just stockpile on the opponent

That is my experience at least, maybe the top Ferias do smth different

She can probably carry with her v1 and be more aggressive, but in her ult she often gets focused and often dies first

Just like with any other transformer

[compact ledge]

Oh I see ty for the return again

The new skin is just good 😄

I don’t know haha

[magic hinge]

Yooo Asian New Year

Wish everybody the best of luck in this new year

Get lots of free legendaries and reach Asura

[compact ledge]

If they can put good skins for the classe I like plz

It can be good lol

Need good tarka/takeda/kylin

[magic hinge]

Takeda player? Wow I finally meet one who admits it

[compact ledge]

Yeah takeda is good but skins actually suks 😅

[compact ledge]

.

[magic hinge]

Oh yeah, but my Akos is pretty much the same

[compact ledge]

Yeah I wait sadly and badly that they are selling us skins News for tarka/takeda/akos/kylin

This s my top 4

But all skins suck rn … only rare chest that cost a lot …

[compact ledge]

@magic hinge for takeda are u using also v2 ?

[magic hinge]

I don’t play Takeda much

But I prefer v3 in trios

[compact ledge]

ok yeah ty , do u know also when there is next update for shop etc ?

[magic hinge]

Justice chamber - never

[humble jay]

i feel liek a pro

[kind ginkgo]

Wp

[compact ledge]

Any takeda main ? I love so much takeda in 3v3

V3 is not that bad I was hesitating with v1 but v3 in trio make sense

@magic hinge do u know what’s the best catch f1/2/3 ?

[shut sage]

are there any resources on all characters?

I dont know who to play and I need some sort of idea as to what each character does

[olive sun]

hop on free training

[olive sun]

trios takeda usually run f1

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-awkward-oh-please-gif-19944090

[olive sun]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-crunchycat-nerd-gif-15834549874357742541

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/euah-kitten-kitty-cat-small-gif-18334454797635962439

[compact ledge]

F is ult or it’s V I always make this mistake coz console player hehe

[olive sun]

ult is V

[compact ledge]

Ok so f1 for trio I played all the evening f3 maybe f1 better then I just need to understand how it work well

But takeda ult v3 in trio was great and also cc ppl while charging my gs/pole was perfect combo

[olive sun]

you run trios in F1 to negate the unseen blue

[olive sun]

yeah V3 is the go-to V for trios

[thin badge]

guys Im new to this game
Is there any DPS heroes that have overwhelming skins?
I want to buy some skin and try to master a DPS

[olive sun]

all characters are required to do damages even those who are labelled as ''healer''

[thin badge]

How about the meta

[olive sun]

solo or trio

[thin badge]

I mainly play trio with my friends

[olive sun]

all chars works in trio

[thin badge]

How about Justina Gu
I see this skin of her and Im really impressed of it

[olive sun]

justina is ok

if you're good she could be very good

[thin badge]

thank you
Could I ask you one last question please?
Where did they get these custom import from?
I cannot find it online except a drive link but it doesnt have much custom like this
Is there a website for it?

[olive sun]

#💅🏼┃custom-characters
#1156841969994174504

if you're on facebook there's this guy who's doing characters QR codes update
https://www.facebook.com/camapduahau/photos_albums

[thin badge]

erm
Are you Vietnamese?

[olive sun]

i am

[thin badge]

me too

[olive sun]

i see

[little cargo]

Understandable

[olive sun]

... have a great day?

[thin badge]

Happy New Year

Any suggestions on which characters that is fun to play and I should try?

Or just try Justina Gu first

[olive sun]

her v1 make her one of the hardest character

v2 is easier

she's ok in trio, you can just go with her

[little cargo]

Fun is something you have to find out yourself

[olive sun]

in trio teamcomp and teamwork matters the most, doesn't matters which character you play

so if you got a premade team you could think about trying some comps

[thin badge]

We are all newbie

But one of my friends choose to main Tianhai and Tarka Ji

Others seems to interested in Takeda and Kylin Zhang

Is there any hero that fits with those

[little cargo]

Tarka is not a really good character for trios tbh

[olive sun]

when in doubt you can just go temulch

[little cargo]

Yeah, Temmy is the best

[olive sun]

tbf if you guys just started can just go with whatever

you'll know later what your team need

some cc, some heavy damages, sustain, engage and disengage tools...

stuffs like that

[thin badge]

alr Ill try out and see then
Thank you so much

Have a nice day

and Happy Lunar New Year once again

[olive sun]

hpny to you too

[thin badge]

[little cargo]

You too

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/nokotan-nokotan-anime-shika-shikanoko-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-gif-3551222173991696461

[compact ledge]

Link to Facebook doesn’t work for me

[magic hinge]

Why is everybody wishing on the 1stv

?

[little cargo]

It's Lunar new year

[magic hinge]

But shouldn’t you wish it yesterda

Ooooh wait… like time zone difference

[little cargo]

Yeah, that and we don't really need to wish it on the first day neither, usually we spend the first day of lunar new year with family

[magic hinge]

K k k

[bold pulsar]

what are good aggro characters for solos? I started Cyra and she is fun but would like more aggressive abilities

[regal crane]

Also what characters are good for opposite of aggro ?

[kind ginkgo]

Cyra is super aggressive with her ult 🤔

For solos u can try maybe zai (eventually, not the best but 100% aggressive), Kylin is full aggression aswell, still not best

U can also try matari, wuchen (with the blades), a few others

Best would be to try them in practice tool and then see what you like best

[kind ginkgo]

For which role specifically? Control, heal / support,..?

[bold pulsar]

when i use my ult vs a real player they usually just run and grapple away and i cant seem to chase after them

using v2

[slate sierra]

Cyras aggressive ult is V1, and you can use the orbs to dazzle them to keep them in place for your beam

• v1 gives you an extra healthbar to work with

[bold pulsar]

which F do people usually use for a more aggro cyra? i've been using F2 and attaching it to myself to try to keep pressure up but not sure its really worth it

[kind ginkgo]

Combo breaker, always 👍

[karmic wolf]

When the tiger dude, do his ultimate, is one of those where you have to run?, or what am I suppose to do?

[magic hinge]

Well you can prob fight him, he doesn’t have a combo breaker

I‘ve seen people dodge the claw and punish

[kind ginkgo]

So, it depends

You can catch them no problem if the are just running around

If the jump slash, it's a purple attack, meaning that either clash blue, or get hit

When he leaps u can react and tap dodge to the sides to it and avoid

But usually it's pretty fair to predict 🤔👍👍

[karmic wolf]

so I fight?

[kind ginkgo]

You can yeah 🤔

Just need to work on your spacing against him 👍👍

[karmic wolf]

to me right now it looks like a single target zai, I just cannot do anything, ill try to react to the jump and punish then

[kind ginkgo]

👍

The dangerous part is the pounce (tiger jump) 👍

The rest u can dodge and punish pretty much

[karmic wolf]

you cannot dodge the pounce?

[kind ginkgo]

You can

But cannot hold dodge it, the hitbox is sometimes weird

Need to either have low enough ms to react to it, or just predict it and tap dodge to the side 👍

[karmic wolf]

so I need to fight him 1000 times to know what up

I really need a consistent sparring partner

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah, not 1000, but a few for sure 👍

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah, that could definitely help, especially if they know how to play akos

[karmic wolf]

been trying to find one the last two weeks but people in NA mostly like trios

only found one but he was way better than me, not sure he didnt get bored

haha

[regal crane]

Id like to know for both roles

I mostly play duos with a friend whos very aggresive and id like a character whos able to cover for him or enable him

But sometimes i play solo as well

[compact ledge]

Any one have a good guide for takeda ? Coz ok i can cc with ult but is suppose to do damage also ? V3 ( being charged at max with good gear team)

[karmic wolf]

can Tessa confirm anything after foxfire?

[glossy nimbus]

Anyone on for a quick question?

1. Yes, I'm aware I parried way too early the first time, but I can hear my second parry in the sound effect for my second parry-- What happened after that?

2. I heard the full sound effect of my ult casting but nothing happened-- was I interrupted and the sound just kept playing?? What happened?

....Is this a goddamn ping issue again?

[karmic wolf]

Sound has no relation with the parry frames as dumb as that sounds

try to get used to dash parry, normal parry is pretty much useless with the current netcode

it not consistent in anyway

[glossy nimbus]

FFFFFFFFFF Seriously? urgh. Thanks for the suggestion

[karmic wolf]

the most "Consistent" feedback is the red spark, not talking about char red shine, there is a spark that comes from the weapon in the parry frames

but I have seen videos where even that is not consistent

this red is still casting

this weapon spark is when is supossed to be active

that can or cannot be linked with sound

you cannot sue

[glossy nimbus]

Gahh what a pain

I shouldn't have let that parry go rip

Thanks anyway!

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[regal crane]

Whats the difference between dash parry and normal parry ? Also, when trying to parry from blue attack, should i cancel it with jump then parry or just press the parry button while holding blue ?

[karmic wolf]

dash parry has lil to no startup compared to normal parry

[olive sun]

your ping is 116, you're basically playing a gambling game even if you did everything right anyway

what you see on your screen is not the same with what your opponent see

on their screen your 2nd parry never happened

for example in this clip of mine you could see my character did the parry and the dodge
but on my opponent screen my character never parried or dodged, i just ate his 1st blue then standing still and ate the followed up blue also

[glossy nimbus]

Why are we playing this game again?

[olive sun]

just to suffer

for example if your ping is 100ms and your opponent ping is 40ms
any of your actions will takes 50 miliseconds to reach the server while any of your opponent actions with takes 20 miliseconds to do so
he released a blue, you pressed parry
when he release his blue, 20ms later the info of him released that blue reached the server, in few miliseconds the server need to gives everyone an answer: either his blue hits you or it gets parried, can only have 1 outcome
when you pressed parry, 50ms later the info of you parried reached the server, but when your info reached the server, the server already decided that his blue hits you (because the info of his blue released reached the server BEFORE the info of your parry was there, and even after the few miliseconds of ''judgement phase'' that the server decide it hits or not, your parry info is still not there) and since we can only have 1 outcome, your parry info just gets deleted as if it never happened, you saw your character parried but on your opponent screen you never did

the same with dodges rubberbanding, your dodge info reached the server too late (after it already decided that you will get hit) so what it does is it pulled you back to the position as if you never dodged

[kind ginkgo]

Not tue

Parry is inconsistent only due to ms discrepancies; dash parry and normal parry are the same if done with quickparry button 🤔, or pretty much the same

https://youtu.be/7vMIlhsdQuE?si=M-peUsbGVU7e6iEU

https://youtu.be/gFhMiSDPgDI?si=g08vjPJHcivfTgnN

For parry specifically these are good references, especially takao's videos 👍

Good pointers on the flash tho, aside the fact that, as Tabbie said, sometimes ms can be playing pretty horrible games

[karmic wolf]

is definitely not the same

hundred percent of the normal parries I have done fails

dash parry do work faster

[kind ginkgo]

They are the same, dash parry works faster, but only slightly

[karmic wolf]

put any reason you want to excuse the behaviour

[kind ginkgo]

Nah, it's fine 🤔😂

[karmic wolf]

if dash parry work faster then is is not the same

[kind ginkgo]

The difference is that, at high enough FPS or low enough ms there are some focus attacks that are reactable

And dash parry can help you with that

But then again, dash parry, in order to be quicker, has to be done as a scissor parry

[karmic wolf]

I saw a video saying that was debunked

[kind ginkgo]

If done with normal one, it does not change that much, we talking about max 100 ms

[kind ginkgo]

Debunked?

[karmic wolf]

yeah scissor no longer has any advantage over quick parry

[kind ginkgo]

Still has, but it's only for dash parries, the rest is the same

Plus minus a few ms of activation time

From what I've been told at least

But yeah, consider them interchangeable

[karmic wolf]

I mean I have no test it myself, but Ill link the video if I see it again

[kind ginkgo]

Sure, would be delighted to learn new things or correct my statement if they fixed it 👍👍👍

[karmic wolf]

is hard to test stuff with how incosistent the game is in general

[kind ginkgo]

Would be much apreciated

[kind ginkgo]

Not really 🤔

Just need a closed environment, where you know the variables

The only thing making parries inconsistent ATM, or the main one, is difference in ms, usually , as I reckon Tabbie said earlier (not fully sure), if there is a huge gap, parries start acting weird due to the delay 👍

At equal ms the situation is totally different and stable

[karmic wolf]

yeah I am not even counting big ping, Im talking about "Decent" ping

less than 40

if I press the parry alone I will not parry anything, if I dash parry now it works

[kind ginkgo]

The again, remember, it's normal for parries to not be 100% guaranteed (as a callout), since they require you to preemptively parry as an aggressive callout 🤔👍

[kind ginkgo]

You try to react, correct?

[karmic wolf]

yes

[kind ginkgo]

That's the issue

There are close to no reactable focus releases in the game

U can dodge them, but parry is made in a way where you cannot parry on reaction

[karmic wolf]

but why does it work with dash parry and not normal if it is the same

[kind ginkgo]

Dash parry does not work ok reaction for all focus releases, only a few

[karmic wolf]

for me is very consistent

so far

while with normal parry I never get anything even if I hear the sound

[kind ginkgo]

Most likely you have a slightly slow timing for a correct reaction parry, meaning that the flash lingers during the actual release aswell 🤔

But then again, this is only a conjecture, I got no materials to base it on 🤔👍

[kind ginkgo]

If it works it works then 🤔👍

[karmic wolf]

well if I manage to do a dash and then a parry I think that requires a faster reaction than just pressing one button

[kind ginkgo]

Not really

[karmic wolf]

you are losing me, pressing 2 buttons is not faster than pressing one?

so pressing one button requires more time?

[kind ginkgo]

Since the activation frames on a correct dash parry is nearly halved, depending on the weapon you are using, it is still quicker

[karmic wolf]

Okay now you are contradicting yourself, man

[kind ginkgo]

Here talking about scissor parry, after a dash

[karmic wolf]

maybe is time to sleep

but before you hit the pillow

can you tell me if I can confirm anything after Tessa foxfire?

[kind ginkgo]

Just woke up, prolly need to get my brain braining a bit more before it's fully functional

[karmic wolf]

oh okay

[kind ginkgo]

Foxfire u mean the second hit from the combo break?

[karmic wolf]

yeah forget you are in the other side of the world

[kind ginkgo]

It's fine 🤔😂😂

[karmic wolf]

yes that second hit

I think is called foxfire? maybe I am wrong

[kind ginkgo]

Also parries are a weird subject, but they are fairly working

[kind ginkgo]

Should be, I never got a good memory for skills names

But nothing confirmable consistently as far as I know

[karmic wolf]

shame

[kind ginkgo]

Maybe as a frametrap or soft true

[karmic wolf]

Im getting a hard time with Tessa with all these justinas, akos and hadis

they can just dictate the pace of the battle like nothing

[kind ginkgo]

I can imagine 🤔

She's ATM like a slightly worse Justina, but she can also dictate the fight peace, try playing around a lot with the fact that you got a really low cd ult

Also, if you manage to hit Hadi mid air with ult he's basically done (clearly, easier said than done)

[karmic wolf]

yeah, my aim is trash

haha

and he moves pretty fast

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah

A good thing would be to wait for when he wants to attack you

He will forcibly have to go straight in your direction

[karmic wolf]

what do I do then? he seems to win all the interactions

[kind ginkgo]

Ult him 🤔

Then just dodge around till he falls to the ground staggered, this will cancel his ult momentarily and give you a window to deal a decent amount of dmg aswell

Remember you can do this twice, meaning that basically if you hit 2 out of 2 ults, he's dead

Just need to make sure he does not go for the orb, but when flying he can't do that, so u can just hang around , dodge or try to, and if you see him going to the ground, you can punish

[karmic wolf]

I see

[kind ginkgo]

Then again, all this, as everything in naraka, is easier said that done, but that's the base idea

Hope it was at least a bit helpful 😂😅

[karmic wolf]

does not seem that crazy tho, when he atks you while flying he dash directly at you

so it should not be as hard as trying to aim him down

then again he will probably just fly away and reset

another question, what is the highest damage I can do with Tessa and link it with the ult, so far I just go after launcher, not sure if I can go further

[kind ginkgo]

TBF I got no idea, maybe I can try tomorrow at the earliest 🤔

[karmic wolf]

Don't worry to much, but yeah would be cool

[still sage]

Anybody can tell me F and V for shayhol?

is it f1 v1?

or f1 v2?

[kind ginkgo]

F2 v1 is standard

[still sage]

but f1 is a combo breaker?

[kind ginkgo]

U can also play F1 v1 if you prefer having the combo breaker

[kind ginkgo]

Yes

But f2 deals good dmg, relatively low cd, can combo start, it's golden focus, can be used as a soft combo breaker aswell 🤔👍

Plus it's a combo extender

V2 for Shayol is generally underperforming because relatively easy to dodge on reaction, this does not say it's unusable if you like it tho 🤔

I personally prefer v1 for duos trios and v1 for solos (even if it's an oppinable choice)

[still sage]

And its red green page?

or something else

[kind ginkgo]

#🙎┃character-guides message

Check this out, might help you 👍👍

Don't have rune pages under my hands ATM 😅

[still sage]

But isnt that one really outdated?

[kind ginkgo]

it is a bit outdated, but at the same time, it explains how the glyph system works overall 🤔

we don't have a fully updated guide atm, since glyphs come down partially to personal preference aswell

best is to understand how they work and then act accordingly; some builds are considered better than other, but then again, i got none at hand of the most recent or meta ones

@chrome cliff might know better 👍 , since they are keeping themselves updated on them and have extensive knowledge on the subject

[still sage]

I know how it works

dw

[idle aurora]

How to use justina? When I dash with her I go way past the target so I freeze them but I'm to far away to hit them.

[kind ginkgo]

you can do a horizontal attack to cut the dash animation short

[idle aurora]

Okay nice, Do you use her alot?

[kind ginkgo]

nop, not at all, she's prolly my second weakest character 🤔 😆

dont like her personally

@drowsy dragon could guide you way better than me 👍 i reckon

[idle aurora]

Yeah lol shes tuff to use, Who do you main?

[idle aurora]

Do they main justina?

[kind ginkgo]

i'm a kylin / lyam main, trying tos swap to lannie. i'm more of a combo guy tho, so i spend most of my time in practice tool 😆

[idle aurora]

Yo I love lannie, I posted my first ever naraka video while using her!

[kind ginkgo]

i reckon yes

[kind ginkgo]

nice!

i just love her combo potential and mechanics

she's 10/10 for design imo

[idle aurora]

With kylin and liam do you usually use them for all modes (Solo,Duo,Trios)?

[drowsy dragon]

I do

[idle aurora]

In solos whenever a Kylin Ults ppl just run away alot

[kind ginkgo]

kylin yes, lyam nop

but then again, i mostly play duos when i play; trios are totally another story

[kind ginkgo]

they do that everywhere, it's a solid way to counter it

[idle aurora]

Nice, Do you have a YT channel I can see tutorials for her or what?

[drowsy dragon]

I don't upload videos xd

I can explain and show you some things if you need but it depends on what you're trying to learn

[idle aurora]

Kylin and liam are deadly in team modes though, alot of combination potential.

[kind ginkgo]

lyam not really

kylin has his strenghts

[idle aurora]

say you run trios temulch, liam, and tessa that would do pretty well IMO

[idle aurora]

Yes show me!

[kind ginkgo]

need to swap for smth better with dmg

[drowsy dragon]

what are you trying to learn?

[idle aurora]

true you could throw in ZAI or even viper

[kind ginkgo]

nah, not viper

if you put viper drop tessa 🤔 or telmuch

correct @drowsy dragon ? u got more experience than me in trios and team comp building

[idle aurora]

Just her movement ULTs I like her ice shard thing but I want to get good with her main ULT

[drowsy dragon]

I see

well, first learn neutral + combos

before even maining a character

if you have both of them you can use the character to your advantage

[idle aurora]

I guess it also depends on who you play with (Teammates) I always try to accommodate the characters my teammates choose.

[idle aurora]

okay i see, when dashing in her form I usually fly past the character after freezing them. How to you prevent yourself from going farther past your target after you freeze them?

[kind ginkgo]

#🙎┃character-guides message u might find this helpful then maybe 🤔

in case u didnt see it already that is

[kind ginkgo]

perform a horizontal attack (left click) as soon as you hit them, it will cancel the dash and stop you on the spot 👍

[idle aurora]

Thanks this looks helpful.

[idle aurora]

Thank you I'm trying to get more accustomed to movement on PC as I just switched over about a month ago.

[kind ginkgo]

i see 👍

[magic hinge]

after playing only akos and tarka with no combo break

wuchen is such a fresh breath of air in duos

[drowsy dragon]

that's why neutral comes in handy, if you manage to trick them into thinking that you will release then they will parry and that = a free freeze and hit

[idle aurora]

By neutral do you mean holdchecking? that's what I know it as.

[drowsy dragon]

in a way it's hold checking and in a way not, neutral is a whole package of learning how to use your combos onto people in the fights

and knowing when to release + parry

that's why you should learn combos before neutral

[idle aurora]

Okay thanks for your guidance Ill look further into that. Could I shown you a video I just made? I'm curious about what your assessment on my skill would be since it seems your more knowledgeable about in game battle tactics more than me.

[drowsy dragon]

Sure send it

[idle aurora]

here or in your DM?

[drowsy dragon]

here if you can

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jttcMjmrAjD0tz4Zs?invite=cr-MSxlT3YsMjAxMzIzNjM0LA

for example this is neutral

[idle aurora]

https://youtu.be/Wml_UXY9ZCw?si=BlQ3aXlFJBm3jy06 here it is

[drowsy dragon]

your jump lmbs are not useful at all, the times where you do those you can just do a grapple combo and get more dmg out of it

[idle aurora]

I'm unfamiliar with most of the terminology what is an LMB again?

[idle aurora]

uppercut perhaps?

[drowsy dragon]

left mouse button

[drowsy dragon]

instead of jump lmb you can start a combo

Usually jump lmbs are only used when you don't have stamina and want to build enough for at least 1 OR you use jump lmb when you know you can't do the combo etc

[idle aurora]

Okay got it so what your saying is to only use jump LMBs when low on stamina. Also are the combos your speaking of FPS based because I don't have a high end PC and I know for sure some combos can only be done with higher FPS.

[drowsy dragon]

The regular grapple combo you do is fine, no need for good combos etc. You can win neutral with basics if you use them well

[idle aurora]

Okay thank you for the guidance I appreciate you.

[drowsy dragon]

You're welcome ^^

[chrome cliff]

the main thing that's changed is that more people are taking wave roll in solos and on some characters in trios (e.g. feria)

the rest still applies

[magic hinge]

Opponents keep dodging after wuchen f

I hit them, the teleport happens

But when I come to them, they can dodge out of the first vertical

Any tips?

[chrome cliff]

@paper dawn can probably answer that one

[olive sun]

working fine for me though 🤔 prolly you was just late on the attack input

also depends on the distance between you and your opponent when the teleport happens

if it's too far you gonna need to do a dash first

or it's the ping and fps thing again

[magic hinge]

Prob that

Because it works with the bot for me …

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disgust-gif-14056253443273255719

[olive sun]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-252679456400578441

[karmic wolf]

JUST CHANGE the PP Tabbie!

[kind ginkgo]

got a clip of it?

[karmic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

[magic hinge]

Not at home rn

[kind ginkgo]

👍

we can take a look at it later if you want eventually 👍

[magic hinge]

But I can clip it later, I can do it with the bot

In game though, sometimes it I just can hit the vertical point blank

Sometimes it doesn’t reg

[kind ginkgo]

why vertical? u playing long sword?

[magic hinge]

No Heng sword

Oh fuck

…

[magic hinge]

Now it all makes sense

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[magic hinge]

I’ll try it at home later

This is what lack of sleep because of exams brings u

At least the semester is over

[viral kiln]

As a primary position 3 player, what are all the characters i should git gud at? Is it just Ziping, Kurumi, Wuchen and Feria?

[lean oasis]

Opinions on Lannie (specifically in solos)?

[kind ginkgo]

She's good, the higher level you want to use her, the harder it's going to be

Mechanically complex the second you try to do combos, but aside that, well balanced, a bit underpowered maybe in certain scenarios. 10/10 for design

[magic hinge]

@kind ginkgo to use Lyams f1 as combo starter, do I have to turn the camera 180?

I’ve seen it been done against me

[kind ginkgo]

Nah, soft true at best, but most likely untrue all the way 🤔

F1 does knock up, meaning that for a short while you are in the air, and fall down prone to the ground

If that happens, nothing can restand you except things like bow headshot and a few abolities

Abilities*

I'll test it again shortly to make sure, but between animation lock that is pretty long and the knock up it shouldn't be possible at all

[magic hinge]

Thank you very much

[kind ginkgo]

Np

Been trying to make it work for a while now, pretty sure it's simply not feasible

[magic hinge]

I’ve gotten hit by it a few times, even though I was spamming dodge after it

[kind ginkgo]

But to make it sure again I'll retest as said 👍😂

[magic hinge]

Maybe it was a ping diff again

[kind ginkgo]

Prolly that was the problem

Spamming dodge leaves openings to catch you in the startup frames

Never a good idea to instantly start spamming dodges the sec u get hit, better to wait

[magic hinge]

So I should just lie down and wait for them to move?

[kind ginkgo]

One sec, I got a video on that somewhere, need to find it again 👍

But if you are lying down, it means that u can't get combined; a combo is possible to start only on a standing up enemy, once someone reaches the ground, no combos allowed (except some special cases that restand)

https://youtu.be/6QQwVeW59iw?si=LmBbckviMW-WQXd0

https://youtu.be/cMdkMnBNQ2c?si=Nsy2jQ8ATSbS3Wuk

https://youtu.be/dGLZWqXPDog?si=dgJO4Na90J6ekL3E

They are a bit old, but definitely can help

[olive sun]

can only be used to gain a pseudo neutral advantage

and yes you need to do a 180 turn when casting the skill

on player you can (most of the time) confirm a vertical hit before they could roll, but horizontal is not possible because they're still knocked down from your F, also the reason why you can't start a true combo from it

[kind ginkgo]

Yep 👍

[magic hinge]

Oh ok thx guys

[harsh geyser]

What are yueshans best ability choices for trios?

[olive sun]

F1 V2

most of the time

[harsh geyser]

Thanks!

[compact ledge]

What’s best valda for duo trio ?

F1 v1 ?

[kind ginkgo]

v2 always

f2 usually also better for team modes, since it's combo break

f1 is pretty nieche

[magic hinge]

my friends who started playing this game are quitting

solos is alr cancer as it is

what a sad time

playing on medioce ping is fun when all the parries get eaten

and people somehow parry when they alr get hit

and every game is 400+

idk why i keep playing

[viral kiln]

Because it’s a fun game

If you lose it’s ok you just queue up and go again 🙂

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | LunarPisces leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[karmic wolf]

what is the ping you play with?

Im personally here, because my fav genre which is fighting game is a freaking joke nowadays, that is why I was getting worried of more "press this buttong to win" heroes, luckily lannie stopped the trend

so I have nowhere else to go, even with all the coding problems the game has but if naraka get a properly coded rival, I would certainly jump over

[viral kiln]

If you want more friends to play with I’ll be your friend

None of my friends will play the game since it’s just not for them lol

[magic hinge]

If im luckz 60-70

these days it can go up to 130-140 for no reason

[karmic wolf]

damn yea 130 is just unplayable

would def not play with that ping

[magic hinge]

it fluctuates mid game sometimes

i came in with 67

mid game it turned orange

[karmic wolf]

the gearup does nothing for you? sounds like ISP issue

[magic hinge]

tried it once or twice

it shows lower ping yeah

but i still felt like playing on high ping

[karmic wolf]

I see, yeah I play around 30~50 so even at my lowest is still okay

[magic hinge]

im eu tho

[karmic wolf]

there was one day that I was at 150, but Im sure it was my ISP being shitty that day, so I just didnt play

[magic hinge]

peak game

i just got true comboed with katana and dualies switch

thx rubberband

[viral kiln]

thats kinda sick

imagine being the other guy pulling that off, had to have felt insane to land it in a game

big respec

is unfortunate to be the one it happened to though

[magic hinge]

Nah man

He knew

It was a very strange thing

He kept switching weapons and light atack spamming me

I didn’t have a combo breaker and my ult wasn’t ready

Im pretty sure it should not be true, but it was naraka netcode magic

[viral kiln]

[buoyant bluff]

And this is the better version lmfao I remember how bad it used to be

[kind ginkgo]

It's soft true, can dodge out usually

[magic hinge]

viper f question here

the silence f is not usable under atack

but can it be used after getting hit by katana horiz?

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Aero leveled up!

[magic hinge]

no way right?

[kind ginkgo]

nop

[magic hinge]

hmmm

[magic hinge]

eu guys

who can carry me trios pls

[compact ledge]

What’s the miost pick up classe for trios at high lvl ?

Telmuch/kurumi/valda looks good compo

[olive sun]

kurumi goes well with anything

tbh when forming a trios comp the first question i ask myself is ''what is our team's answer for viper and temulch V''

if i got one then comp is good

[scarlet dew]

also ask "do we instantly lose to kurumba"

[crisp heart]

who is better for begginers valda cui or kylin?

[kind ginkgo]

Both fine

Valda prolly easier since she gets a huge shield with ult

[wraith cargo]

What is Kurumba?

[slim spire]

how is takeda in solos/duos

[olive sun]

https://youtu.be/zCeeEHsIBkE

[compact ledge]

Whats ur v/f for tessa in trio plz

@olive sun any idea ? U look like u know well the game 😄

[kind ginkgo]

F1 (combo breaker) and v1

There are some variations with F1 V2 or f2 v2 , but they need specific team and don't perform well

[magic hinge]

Pulled out the naraka replay

:)))

[compact ledge]

Chinese in trio … it’s just impossible to win xD

[kind ginkgo]

Remember, most of the names using Chinese characters are not from actual Chinese people

[compact ledge]

Oh ok they are just very very very good

But the rank system suck …

I am like new play 200 games I m against 3/4000 games players

[kind ginkgo]

Take it as a learning oppurtunity

Also remember, there are people with 1k hours that still don't know how to play the game

[magic hinge]

Average cs2 face it experience

[kind ginkgo]

yepyep

[magic hinge]

Where you have to carry a 2k lvl 6 who is double negative

[kind ginkgo]

i think that's true for every game

[magic hinge]

I think mount and blade doesn’t have this issue

[kind ginkgo]

no idea, never played that game

[magic hinge]

It has a small community overall, but everybody is pretty chill

[magic hinge]

Strategy game where you are actually on the field fighting

[kind ginkgo]

nic

e

i'm more of a SC2 player personally tho 🤔

[magic hinge]

The Chinese in china are actually so far up in rankings. I think the top 1 solo Asura is 15k+ or smth damn

[slim spire]

i was fighting zai in imperium walls and she used F to fly to imperium building roof

how do i do that myself xd

[magic hinge]

F2

[magic hinge]

Oh my friend sometimes plays it, never tried it

[kind ginkgo]

insanely competitve and precise

but really fun if you like the genre

i grew up playing that

used to be master rank when the game was in his gold days

now i'm rusty af 😆 , dont even rememebr any of the builds, aside from some rush

[magic hinge]

Nah, I’m not starting another comp game

Maybe with some friends

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[stark bolt]

whos the best character for solos, in terms of pure damage combos

[kind ginkgo]

Wym by "pure dmg combos"? A lot of heroes can do touch of death 🤔

[magic hinge]

Wait lemme get this man his main

[magic hinge]

Take Akos

Jump jump is fun

[kind ginkgo]

akos isnt the best for combos tho 🤔

[magic hinge]

V2 is essentially a reset tho

And in ult, his claws act like a combo starter

I’d say not tod

But def easier to win neutral

[kind ginkgo]

50/50

u got no combo break at the same time

[magic hinge]

Ok then 🥲

Take Justina or smth

[kind ginkgo]

nah

i mean, if they like it for sure, but remember to learn neutral before combos

[magic hinge]

On 60 ping halberd horiz x2 is true?

Tf is this

[olive sun]

that, my friend, is called rubberbanding

and no that's not the definition of ''true'' combo

[kind ginkgo]

Nop, halberds and blades toothpick is always not true

Soft true at best, but people can dodge out

[magic hinge]

Yeah

But the thing is it used to be dodgeable on my ping

And lately it’s gotten worse or smth

I can’t even dodge out of non true comboed

Even soft combo breakers fail somehow

[olive sun]

that's normal

well, not ''normal'' normal but with current naraka settings, expect it to be the norm

untrue, rubberbanding, desync, parry fails... happens everywhere

50 ping, heck even 40 ping it still all over the place

[olive sun]

on 60 ping even my COMBO BREAKER doesn't works not to mention soft combo breakers

[magic hinge]

I think the top 3 collectors in eu server stopped playing or smth

What a fun time

[olive sun]

got a dude charging a dh vertical blue in front of me, as soon as i failed to parry that and the very first hit touched me i pressed my F (i'm on temulch), i heard the sound, i saw the animation, but then my character got pulled back into the attack

as if i never pressed F

[magic hinge]

Hahahaha

[olive sun]

and when i tried to fix it by spamming F after that i already ate too much dmg from that DH v charge to the point that when my character successfully used the F, i almost ate the full attack damages

[magic hinge]

I’ve had people eat 2 hits of the staff blue to the face

Stand point blank to me

Hear the hits

And then he suddenly parries

Do other fighting games experience a desync like this

Tekken for example

?

[olive sun]

the desync happens because the input animation on your screen happens immediately but the effect of that input is not

because it haven't reached the server

you press parry, your character do the parry animation immediately, but the server haven't received the info that you parried yet

and if your opponent got lower ping than you, the info of their blue reached the server EARLIER than your parry info, the server then decided that his blue is going to hit (because after the ''judgement'' phase which last for few ms your parry info is still not there), then it sends the data to both players that ''this blue hits and do damages, it didn't get parried''

so on their screen you never parried, on your screen you did parried BUT since it can only have 1 outcome, the server gonna erase your parry info

result in a failed parry despite on your screen your character did the animation

the same with dodges got rubberbanded, hence why DH toothpick is possible, because the server received their 2nd horiz info BEFORE they received your dodge info

they don't want to ''fix'' it by delay the animation on your screen (aka all of your actions need to be verified by the server BEFORE it could display on your screen), because if they do so the game gonna feels very unresponsive for a ping that is considered ''playable'' aka green ping range (for example you pressed parry but you won't see your character does the animation until 0.5s later < this gonna create even more frustration for a fast paced combat game)

[olive sun]

it gets even worse when you face a high fps opponent because high fps literally speeding up your animation, make your blue armor earlier, your attack comes out faster, ends earlier and you're able to dodge earlier

they blame it on the limitation of the netcode and the game engine, but refuse to provide any solution
fps cap for the fps thing and more nodes for the ping thing has been asked for since forever, still nothing from them

an unfinished product, a side project, that's the words to describe the current state of global naraka

[kind ginkgo]

What am I reading...

[magic hinge]

A passionate monologue

[kind ginkgo]

For context the FPS part is not as impactful as he is making it seem

It does impact but not that much

[olive sun]

not as impactful? hah

[kind ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/jnY1S-9s2r4?si=z492y23k3bGpdta_

Here is a practical demo

[olive sun]

that doesn't looks impactful to you?

[kind ginkgo]

It's at best a 12% improvement on speed

[kind ginkgo]

Being a low fps player I never feels you high FPS problems as much as you say 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

Sure, they give opportunities, but also they don't break the game, if we not talking about combos

[olive sun]

how many ppl with 300+ fps have you fought?

oh btw this is what happens when parry are client sided

you can even hit a parry like this

this is the exact frame before the parry succeed, as you can see no red glow, no red spark, nothing

and it suceed anyway

[kind ginkgo]

a lot tbf; they are my usual sparring partners 🤔

[kind ginkgo]

i sometimes hit those 🤔

[olive sun]

vid or it didn't happens

[kind ginkgo]

dash parry has a 2x times faster animation compared to normal one, or at least it should be

ok, ill clip next time it happens

👍

[olive sun]

that's not a dash parry

[kind ginkgo]

there is a frame of dash 🤔

[olive sun]

?

where?

[kind ginkgo]

3 frames to be exact

where you are not holding focus, not winding up for parry

[olive sun]

? where's the dash?

bro that's the parry startup animation

[magic hinge]

yo btw

viper silence is 15 sec

akos roar is 22

damn

[olive sun]

12s with 18% cdr
and it silence target for 8s
pair with her v3 5s silence, in theory you could silence a target for 21s straight

[magic hinge]

insane

[olive sun]

in exchange you got 0 combo breakers

[halcyon atlas]

i got a question, does all of the Kylin Abilitys and Ults work because i play with his first Ability and Second ult but i see many using Second ability and First ult

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[magic hinge]

just like takeda

[kind ginkgo]

they all work, but f2 is generally better because it guarantees a focus attack usually

v2 is good

but v1 is better if you are inexperienced

[olive sun]

takeda V is a combo breaker, same with akos V

and when takeda is on his V there's no way you could combo him lol

[magic hinge]

fair enough

[magic hinge]

For the love of the game

All my friends quit

Solo grind again

[magic hinge]

Ziping solo f2 V1?

[rocky dove]

If you good with neural run F1 for more healing over time

[compact ledge]

There s not enough ppl on game to get matchup fair , like with 200 games we are against ppl who played 4/5000 games

[magic hinge]

Average day in solo

Every game is 400+ and you meet all asuras

And then when you finally get 300+ but on your side, you meet another guy who is not supposed to be there

[magic hinge]

I ran f2 v2 and it didn’t do shit

Cuz I can’t read

[rocky dove]

😂

[magic hinge]

No fr, I was so confused

I thought it was just that the healing was so minimal, I didn’t even see it

I’ve been losing an inconsistently high number of 1v1s and yangs with the opponent on 1 hp

Is this a sign that I’m getting better winning more neutral but somehow choking

Or am I just getting unlucky

[kind ginkgo]

U lucky when u play against me 🤔😂

I ain't got that many, most of my time is spent in practice tool and custom rooms 😂🤔

[kind ginkgo]

Let's consider better neutral and potential chokes / panic at the end maybe?

Always progressing

[magic hinge]

I lost a game today cuz i ulted in lyam v2

and though it was v1 and just aimed far away to teleport and it did nothing

i'll get to asura and never rouch solos ever again

unless the time calls for another solo run

[magic hinge]

u have lots of people to play customs?

[kind ginkgo]

Decent number yeah 🤔👍

Got lucky to get in a few groups of friends 👍

Generally you can find a lot of custom companions in good chambers , if you need any 👍

[kind ginkgo]

Unrivaled Asura next goal 🤔👍👍

[magic hinge]

Nah too sweaty

cant even get a kd of 2

[kind ginkgo]

Nah, not sweaty

Just takes time

[magic hinge]

1ST season bronze

second season astral

and then asura ahhah

[kind ginkgo]

And then unrivaled

It's a small leap

500 points more

[magic hinge]

and next is triple asura

idk if i'm good enough to make the jump

cuz if i play good, sure i can breeze through

but if not, i'm going to get minimal points

[buoyant bluff]

Temulch spear stuff

[opal depot]

dragonslayer out of f stun, 2 spins into uppercut is probably higher dps than horisontal out of f

[buoyant bluff]

It is BUT it takes slightly longer which kills the final rep of the loop and cancels out the higher dmg

[opal depot]

fair

with a blue or purple weapon where it'll be lethal sooner it's probably best though

[buoyant bluff]

True

[buoyant bluff]

I think temulch low key top tier ngl

[magic hinge]

And naraka crashes twice in my game

That one time I get good loot early

might as well quit this game

[magic hinge]

final circle was literally 1v2v2

nice teaming

[kind ginkgo]

It's normal TBF 🤔

Not teaming

People will go always for the person alone or the lowest hp target or also for the most vulnerable one

Check pro games, you always see like 4 people chasing a single one

[magic hinge]

Nah

I was a hadi with ult

i didnt use

i parried a wuchen and clipped that guy to low hp

he ulted

missed

ran to morus

zai was always there and now decides to atack me

i'm winning neutral again

she runs away

while doing so i get atacked by the wuchen guy

after another insane play i somehow still com out alive

and out of nowhere an akos drops on be with a polesowrd

ended in top 6

the top 1 hadi guy was nowhere to be found until last circle

he was just chilling somewhere

this was that one 400+ game where i randomly popped off

but akos was def teamed with another guy

they looted my body together and then fought the cyra and wuchen like a 2v2 or smth

I'm never getting an insane game like that again

[kind ginkgo]

My man you are lagging badly 🤔

[buoyant bluff]

Not teaming that's normal

It's hard to kill people in this game

They're gonna go for whoever is low

[magic hinge]

like i said

i was not even remotely low

wuchen was super low

he was running for an armour swap

i was nearly full hp

wish i recorded tbh

[wraith cargo]

man, Naraka looks awesome with good graphic settings

[magic hinge]

yeah

it goes down usually

[kind ginkgo]

Mhm

[rocky dove]

Would anyone like to get shot in the face with a bow about 60 times?

I’m dreading this zip cultivation quest

Cuz no cc no stun just pure aim skill smh

[kind ginkgo]

Need to do it in a real game

[rocky dove]

Bloodbath

[magic hinge]

Not getting to Asura like that

[kind ginkgo]

Well, about that...

[magic hinge]

You see what I’m working with?

[kind ginkgo]

Pain

[magic hinge]

And when I get jumped it’s even worse

Yo I was in the lobby with Penemue again?

Another Asura lobbie

1000+ Rating diff

[viral kiln]

thats dope, id love to get smoked by penemue in a lobby lmfao

nothing wrong with being in the top of the top lobbies brother, i understand frustration with lag and whatnot, but why else have you been complaining and wanting to quit the game? what is it that you want that your not getting from it? isnt the goal to get to where you are in the same games as the top players? are you wanting lobbies with noobs and easy games and then get unrivaled asura? like what is it that you are looking for, where do you think the satisfaction from playing is going to come from? seems like your not sure and everything is just frustrating you rn since you have no clarity

[magic hinge]

Nah I’d love to get games with players if similar skill

The thing with 400+ lobbies is that I keep climbing higher and higher without „actually playing“

I would love to have the immortal war type of rating for all ranked

Sure it‘s gonna reset me to lower ranks

But the skill should not be like this

I‘m not empyrean skillwise

I just get 3-5 kills by killing the guys that also have no right being in such lobbies

Game is fun, mechanics are cool

And the characters very original

But it’s very often that you lose 0-100 against better players

Btw I think the game lobbies are so small that I’ve essentially been fighting the same high level guys since platinum 5

I‘ve fought the never and 6lack guys on tarka a considerable amount of times for example

The thing with the guys like me and the guys that die even earlier

Is that between ourselves it‘s going to be a close fight

But for the Asura guys we are essentially less accurate bots to fill the lobbies

[kind ginkgo]

200+ ms you can double uppercut without grapple

[magic hinge]

The most I learn is in custom lobbies

[umbral monolith]

penemue is only at the top cause he runs away with ziping, dont @ me

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | habok leveled up!

[magic hinge]

I’ve actually only met him in lobbie not fought him

But I’d say he had more dmg than me def

The top 2 though

Like ???

@kind zodiac yo you‘re in discord

Thx for the custom rooms

[kind zodiac]

yo who r u?

[magic hinge]

The impartial guy who keeps appearing in your bloodbath lobbies

[kind zodiac]

Oh yeah i know you mb you're the goat himself

always a pleasure to fight !

[magic hinge]

I learned a lot from you guys, thank you! You guys are goated fr

[kind zodiac]

Always feel free to ask for 1v1s or for tips ! If you want I know some Unrivaled Asura players who do free coaching !

[magic hinge]

Thank you! If I need help I’ll know here to ask

[kind zodiac]

I'm always glad if I can help people !

[buoyant bluff]

How the hell are you not getting booted/rubberbanding

If I ever played like this the game either kicks me out or I rubberband like crazy

[magic hinge]

when does eu server come alive?

[kind ginkgo]

Usually mid afternoon, start of evening, why?

[kind ginkgo]

The fact that I was able to do a double uppercut without any grapple shows a rubberband

Rubberband is a term used normally for when you dodge away and still finish at the starting point because of a desync , usually it all ends up with you inside the enemy attack

[magic hinge]

just asking

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[buoyant bluff]

Yeah this is more what I was thinking, when you're teleporting around

[kind ginkgo]

you dont see yourself teleporting unless someone attacks you 👍

what you feel the most at high ms is the slower animations (the delay between input and action)

[buoyant bluff]

Ahh does this game stop that from happening?

[kind ginkgo]

teleport is due to interactions with other players

it's the result of a desync

so usually it's the lower ms player that sees the one with high ms teleporting

but you will get teleported back if you are attacked and thought u dodged out

that is the rubberband

"going back in time" because your movement was actually not happening, even if it seemed like so

(desync delay basically)

[harsh geyser]

What are the best combos/attacks to rely on when ulting with zai?

[kind ginkgo]

Focus attacks usually, especially when in a teamfight

If 1v1 it depends, max you can do is horizontal into uppercut into air horizontal

But you can catch people and frame trap them if you time light attacks correctly

[olive sun]

there's none
best you could do are
ADA > uppercut > A (in air) > landing > jump A
ADA > upper cut > landing > A (while enemy still airborne) > A

[harsh geyser]

thanks guys

[olive sun]

if the terrain allows it you could do multiple uppercut juggle

but that's it

[magic hinge]

Fighting a Zai with hadi is so fun ngl

They just chase you everywhere while you fly away

[midnight grove]

what can you do with tarka v1 besides the infinites?

[kind ginkgo]

Not much, it's a skill designed for combod

Combos*

[midnight grove]

oh alr ty

[magic hinge]

I think you used to be able some more cool shit in the air before they nerfed it or smth

[buoyant bluff]

It's a great tool to disengage if you're low hp and want to run

Also moving faster is just generally useful for avoiding attacks n stuff in fights

[kind ginkgo]

Mhhh

Using tarka ult as an escape tool is generally never a good choice unless you are really forced to 🤔

[midnight grove]

at least you can cancel it for like 50% rage still

also whats the difference between his f1 and f2

[kind ginkgo]

I would need to read them in order to answer, but I reckon that V2 gives less speed? Not sure

[midnight grove]

uh

[kind ginkgo]

Ah sry, misread

F1 can be used to start a combo

F2 u can't do that

Pretty much

[midnight grove]

oh ok

f1 better then

ty

[kind ginkgo]

It's clearer if you watch the video of the skills 👍👍

They have a different activation; f2 should knock enemies back, while F1 only stagger them

If I recall correctly

[midnight grove]

👍

[magic hinge]

f2 in trios is super fun

i just use it to run into blues and atacks when we need to get away

and then send people flying

[compact ledge]

For Tessa duo / trio v2 better ? And f1 yes !

?*

[olive sun]

all are viable, but v2 usually bring less value than v1

[forest granite]

f1/2 for kurumi in duos? 🤔 for some reason, i cant really tell the difference between the two

i dont think it matters that much for kurumi specifically but i never played her

[forest granite]

*or i cant tell the value of each one i mean, i get how theyre different

[karmic wolf]

You get how they are different but you do not know the difference?

You lost me there

welp he left

I blame tabbie PP

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-whatever-fine-whatever-gif-gif-699506307301513791

[kind ginkgo]

F1 heals, f2 gives dmg reduction

They both are great, but the priority can change based on what you need with your comp

[rotund knoll]

Hey I'm a new player and I really like to play Justina. Which one of her skill and ultimate is better? When I see Justina in my matches everyone does it completely different.

[olive sun]

they're all viable
V1 is mobile and got big outplay potential, while V2 is easier to use and is good at stalling the fight
F2 is a combo breaker, can be use under attack so it could save you from getting combo-ed to death or get out of sticky situations (many ppl light attack spamming you) while F1 can't be use under attack but it heals your armor

[rotund knoll]

So should I just try everything out look what's best for me?

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Sekai 疼痛 leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[olive sun]

yes

[rotund knoll]

Alright tysm

[compact ledge]

Hey bro
Wanna give a try to telmuch in duo/trio what’s f/v bis plz

[olive sun]

F1 V3 always

[deft wolf]

trying to use Ziping Yin in Duos and I was woundering what the best F/V are or most common ones to use then is it a death sentence to play Zip in Solos?

[olive sun]

usually team modes zip run F1 V1 but F2 V2 also could be used, as long as you're not running F3 V3 then you're fine
zip is solid in solo, it's just that her playstyle is different compare to the rest. You use your abilities to bait out enemies's and outlast them with your sustain

[deft wolf]

So is Zip better than Cyra in solos?

[olive sun]

no

[deft wolf]

Cyra F1 V2? or do you think F2 V2?

[olive sun]

F1 always

[kind ginkgo]

V1 is going to be harder to adapt to as a new player, but as Tabbie said, all is viable, and playing what you like most is the important part 👍👍

[rotund knoll]

Tysm really appreciate the help here

[kind ginkgo]

If you got questions it's is just right of us to answer, we re here to help after all

[forest granite]

i meant i get how they are different in terms of what they do, i meant i don't get the difference in terms of benefit.

[viral kiln]

isnt what they do the different benefit?

i think your wondering the use case, why or when to choose one over the other?

[kind ginkgo]

It was a totally legit question they asked, pls stop going back on that point; it is true that the two abilities are really similar and that it's not immediate to understand what does what and why

Plus what they were asking was why choosing one over the other; benefits are not clear since they are similar as explained above already.

[viral kiln]

yup, on the same page

was just clarifying what information they were looking for and the verbiage used is all

I totally understand skill and ults having basically the same text but them working in very specific different ways despite the text indifference and more experienced players knowing and being able to explain that

its just important to ask the right question and so i was trying to clarify

[kind ginkgo]

👍👍👍

All good, answered above already in case 👍👍

Ty for trying to be helpful

I must've misread the intention since I'm still too sleepy 😅

[karmic wolf]

Do not engage with Eranicks before his coffee

[kind ginkgo]

I can't drink coffee 😂😂😂😂😅

More like about my morning juice 😂

[karmic wolf]

ofc you can, bring me the funnel!

https://tenor.com/view/trash-bag-funnel-gif-9694238

[kind ginkgo]

I physically can't 😂😂😂, caffeine gives me tremors, effect too strong

[magic hinge]

ADHD?

[kind ginkgo]

Never tested for it, but really possible

[magic hinge]

I know it has diff effects depending on the type

[magic hinge]

For example, I get sleepy from caffeine

[kind ginkgo]

Caffeine works differently for every and each person yep, which is why it still has not been labeled as doping 🤔👍👍

But generally it's a stimulant 👍, or at least that's the function it has

[delicate pumice]

so what is like the best character to play in the game righ now?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends, solos, duos or trios? For what role also?

And what rank + level of ability?

It's not an easy question to answer at the moment I would say; if what you are looking for is something that by playing you get an insta win, short answer, there is not 🤔👍

Same with weapons

All heroes are viable, and all weapons are 🤔👍👍

Some are stronger in certain situations and weaker in others 👍

[delicate pumice]

i just downloaded the game few days ago , so i usually play solos.
havn't unlocked Rank yet . currently on level 20 something .

[delicate pumice]

right

i usually like to use Gravegrinder

and the Dual helberds

[kind ginkgo]

I recommend focusing on learning movement, hold checking and basic game mechanics first then 👍👍

I'll send some useful videos once I get home 👍

[delicate pumice]

okeee , thankus

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ERpDpM4tck&t=201s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y59HE32pHqU&t=123s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXEjHzqPYyA&t=68s

these might be a good starting point

[delicate pumice]

Thanks buddy

[delicate pumice]

@compact ledge watch these videos

[compact ledge]

thank you bro

i feel like i got the basics down now