Flow - Born from an E5Pro | Zero G | Page 5

formal marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:36 PM

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nope sold those

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I'll get a manta or another skrat

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(maybe manta with cm4)

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more compact considering the printer footprint

proud marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:38 PM

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wow! you are so efficient on cleaning up after yourself.. I was thinking to buy the frame for the beta enclosure and sell the old ender 5 if I manage to rebuild it somehow… but it looks like a lost cause… I’ll probably do it when I build the smolZG first

proud marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:38 PM

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formal marsh I'll get a manta or another skrat

have you seen the new mellow board coming soon?

formal marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:38 PM

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did not

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link?

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but if it's like their other fly boards I'll pass

formal marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:40 PM

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proud marsh wow! you are so efficient on cleaning up after yourself.. I was thinking to buy ...

I made the commitment to myself of selling first then buying 😛

proud marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:43 PM

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Mellow Fly-DP5
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqCpWFi

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there is also a version with regular drivers

formal marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:44 PM

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with those drivers it's a no for sure

proud marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:45 PM

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than the fly d5

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has regular drivers

proud marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:47 PM

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formal marsh with those drivers it's a no for sure

unless they are compatible with the ez (I highly doubt it) it’s not a smart move imo

formal marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:49 PM

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i'll wait on reviews

proud marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:50 PM

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but the one with the PCI style drivers is cheaper 😅

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https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0WgUNI

formal marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:52 PM

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but getting tied to a specific design...

proud marsh Dec 4, 2023, 8:52 PM

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I guess they want people to buy the version that locks them in with mellows style drivers

formal marsh Dec 4, 2023, 10:15 PM

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status: everything tested isolated (still need to home), endstops ok, bed ok, steppers ok, entire toolhead functions ok

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next step rewire the TR for it's board

formal marsh Dec 10, 2023, 12:48 PM

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TR is rewired, need to flash the new board and test

reef hamlet Dec 15, 2023, 9:41 PM

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@formal marsh saw your comment about the omnibox. Was it worth?

formal marsh Dec 15, 2023, 10:04 PM

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reef hamlet <@293050635186733056> saw your comment about the omnibox. Was it worth?

for me it is

reef hamlet Dec 16, 2023, 1:29 AM

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Cool! Did you also make an enclosure for your printer?

plucky plume Dec 16, 2023, 1:32 AM

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reef hamlet Cool! Did you also make an enclosure for your printer?

#1076124931517055026 message

reef hamlet Dec 16, 2023, 1:33 AM

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Oh I thought you went and bought acrylic panels haha

formal marsh Dec 16, 2023, 11:48 AM

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reef hamlet Oh I thought you went and bought acrylic panels haha

haha nope, it's a giant MDF box

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 11:49 AM

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NEW THR ARRIVES TODAY

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 3:17 PM

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oh CAN oh CAN

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love it when it works

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hate when it doesnt

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time to recheck all wires

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120ohm is correct

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 4:21 PM

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ok wrong pins configured on skrat

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now find why it shuts down

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ADC out of range yet all temps seem fine on the logs

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one thermistor wire just broke

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so that can be it

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 5:12 PM

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nope

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I'm clueless

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 5:37 PM

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taking katapult out to check

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enclosure thermistor

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now to find why its bork

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fucked up a wire

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at least everything else works

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 7:14 PM

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IT'S ALIVE!

tired pike Dec 18, 2023, 7:16 PM

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show it man!!

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 7:17 PM

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let me eat something 😅 I was hungry but kept delaying

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(yup I can be that obsessed)

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 7:37 PM

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one more thing to do, I split the dual 5015 in 2 fan ports so need to figure how to merge them in klipper

plucky plume Dec 18, 2023, 7:51 PM

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formal marsh one more thing to do, I split the dual 5015 in 2 fan ports so need to figure how...

https://www.reddit.com/r/klippers/s/nYDzajc0sb

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Explore this post and more from the klippers community

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 7:55 PM

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plucky plume https://www.reddit.com/r/klippers/s/nYDzajc0sb

thank you, multi pin it is

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 8:36 PM

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pale yoke Dec 18, 2023, 8:37 PM

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formal marsh

https://tenor.com/view/jambajew-steve-brule-gasm-gif-18457151

Tenor

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stop, you're making me want to upgrade my horrible stock creality heatbed

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 8:38 PM

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https://tenor.com/bCVfs.gif

Tenor

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@pale yoke

pale yoke Dec 18, 2023, 8:38 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

Tenor

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 8:39 PM

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💸

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get a voron bed

pale yoke Dec 18, 2023, 8:39 PM

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I've only just got my printer up and running enough for me to be satisfied to print again

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 8:39 PM

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it might be cheaper 😛

pale yoke Dec 18, 2023, 8:39 PM

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formal marsh get a voron bed

I've been very tempted you seem to have great results with it!

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 8:39 PM

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that reminds me need to share my adapters

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today is the day

pale yoke Dec 18, 2023, 8:42 PM

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POG

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 10:03 PM

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@pale yoke https://discord.com/channels/747612067951018075/1186427565691371631

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there you go

pale yoke Dec 18, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Awesome thanks!

formal marsh Dec 18, 2023, 10:21 PM

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zerog TODO zerog

Eventually reprint some omnibox parts as this PLA one is breaking (delaying this one until next release maybe)
Install Mellow Easy BRD on TR ✅
Print at least 2 ERCP for the TR/rewinders need to choose
Print SUAFT/something else with HEPA

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finally getting smaller

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 2:20 PM

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FOUND WHY MY Z OFFSET FLOATS

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so, doing a sexbolt repeatability test gives good results, same with the probe ones, since those are stable what's the remaining variable? the way klicky/unklicky attaches so I ran a different test, attach klicky do a probe repeatability test, dock klicky
on 10 tests got between 16.198 and 16.05, so a difference of 0.148 wayyy too much

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 2:44 PM

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accepting ideas

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 3:01 PM

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might have forgotten to glue the magnets, I don't think I ever did most of the times

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yep, took them off, added glue now need to wait

proud marsh Jan 14, 2024, 3:25 PM

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I don’t think the glue would make a difference, if they stayed on, it means they were firmly attached to things

pale cloak Jan 14, 2024, 3:44 PM

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proud marsh I don’t think the glue would make a difference, if they stayed on, it means they...

if they are loose, it may wobble?

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 4:08 PM

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pale cloak if they are loose, it may wobble?

that's my current assumption

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meanwhile since glue starts setting pretty quick ran 2 tests

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attach, 10 probes, dock - 10.times
then calculated range etc using the probes averages (final from each test)
both times range is around 0.01

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need to run a few more

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std dev 0.004

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seems acceptable

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again .01 range .003 std dev

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I think I'll risk a print

late veldt Jan 14, 2024, 5:12 PM

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Since you're running both a sexbolt and klicky, presumably you're running auto-z, so why does the z offset floating matter? Due to the way the calculation works, the only factor that should matter is the switch offset (which doesn't change) right?

pale cloak Jan 14, 2024, 5:22 PM

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late veldt Since you're running both a sexbolt and klicky, presumably you're running auto-z...

the float is not consistent, however, so every pair of samples turns out wildly different.

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the switch is not returning consistent samples

late veldt Jan 14, 2024, 5:23 PM

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Ah that makes sense

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Maybe I'll check the variation after docking/undocking on mine too, I just figured the slight differences were down to slight temperature variation within the enclosure, but I too don't have the magnets glued

proud marsh Jan 14, 2024, 5:25 PM

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late veldt Ah that makes sense

because during the procedure you dock-undock thenprobe several times, every time you re-dock the probe you might have a slight different offset. Apparently glueing makes a big difference

pale cloak Jan 14, 2024, 5:25 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/sml-super-glue-brooklyn-guy-gorilla-glue-we-have-super-glue-that-could-work-gif-12059692704973425118

Tenor

proud marsh Jan 14, 2024, 5:27 PM

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to be fair, 0.2mm is a very small wobble for eyeballing with our senses. so it’s quite possible that without glue thing move slightly

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 5:45 PM

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late veldt Since you're running both a sexbolt and klicky, presumably you're running auto-z...

in theory it should not matter indeed, even more because on a print I attach and run everything without reattaching, and all the measurements are made relative to nozzle+unbolt+unklicky, my suspicion is that sometimes during those measurements there is a slight change on the probe attachment, that is enough to throw off the calculations, remember we probe the bed a lot (z tilt, mesh, z calibration) and then klicky body also touches the sexbolt, somewhere in the middle changes may occur, 0.14 range variation is small but enough to mess a first layer, I'm expecting that now that measured range is 0.01 things get more stable

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also I'm only probing the bed once

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since the start print flow is already long and klicky repeatability tests showed good results I ended up setting only one probe

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if it seems to show up again I'll try to set 2 probes and see if it improves

late veldt Jan 14, 2024, 5:49 PM

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Ah I see, I take the median of 5 probes, same idea of doing everything without reattaching, 0.14 is indeed pretty high, I'm sometimes seeing variation of ~0.05

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 5:50 PM

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those 0.14 were between attach/reattach

late veldt Jan 14, 2024, 5:50 PM

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I've been thinking about maybe getting a bdsensor so the klicky is only for auto-z but so far, with 3x3 adaptive bed meshing, unless I'm doing lots of short prints, the time taken is tolerable to me

late veldt Jan 14, 2024, 5:51 PM

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formal marsh those 0.14 were between attach/reattach

Yes, I mean variations of ~0.05 in the z offset between prints

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 5:51 PM

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that is a good value

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let's see, got chamber heating up

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offset seems good now but was done cold, hot should not matter but I want to double check

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 8:18 PM

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so ~~probe~~ switch offset is wrong when the printer is hot, not making sense

plucky plume Jan 14, 2024, 8:19 PM

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formal marsh so ~~probe~~ switch offset is wrong when the printer is hot, not making sense

That makes sense since the bed is possibly expanding when heated, no?

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 8:19 PM

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if it was really probe yeab

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wrong name, its the switch offset

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unless magnets are not enjoying the heat

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as auto z should handle thermal expansion

proud marsh Jan 14, 2024, 10:20 PM

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My magnets (cheap amazon) hate the heat, I’m replacing them asap

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Meaning within few months 😅

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 10:20 PM

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re-adjusting everything with it hot

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and see how it goes

proud marsh Jan 14, 2024, 10:22 PM

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I always readjust the offset with a 1 layer 200x200 square. I do it once I change something on the probe

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 10:23 PM

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I'm lazy

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I just use a .25mm shim

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found my problem

proud marsh Jan 14, 2024, 10:25 PM

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I’m waiting for people to adopt strain gauge in klipper

formal marsh Jan 14, 2024, 10:26 PM

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that thing is from the duct

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so more glue is in order

formal marsh Jan 15, 2024, 2:07 PM

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fuck me, the glued magnet decided to come off the duct

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need to remove it from the toolhead

pale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 2:08 PM

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I had similar struggles, what glue are you using. I was using the wrong glue before, plasticglue. It only really stuck to the printed part and not the magnet.

formal marsh Jan 15, 2024, 2:09 PM

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yep that thing

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but I don't have any CA right now

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https://www.revell.de/index.php this one I think

https://www.revell.de/

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Entdecken Sie die Faszination des Modellbaus mit Revell. Wir haben eine große Auswahl an Produkten für Jung und Alt, darunter ferngesteuerte Autos, Flugzeuge und Boote. Bauen Sie Ihren Traum noch heute!

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for plastics it's good, doesn't damage like CA

pale yoke Jan 15, 2024, 2:21 PM

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yeah don't think that will bond well with magnets, maybe rough them up a bit on the side there will be glue?

formal marsh Jan 15, 2024, 2:22 PM

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good point I'll try it out

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might try a different one just for now maybe I can find one slightly larger

formal marsh Jan 15, 2024, 3:52 PM

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sooo none is larger

tired pike Jan 16, 2024, 3:12 AM

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formal marsh

Damn.. that would drive me nuts

formal marsh Jan 16, 2024, 10:48 AM

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they seem to be good now

serene relic Jan 16, 2024, 1:02 PM

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You wouldn't by any chance be interested in sharing this would you?

formal marsh Jan 16, 2024, 1:10 PM

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serene relic You wouldn't by any chance be interested in sharing this would you?

i can, if I find it 🙂

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@serene relic

📎 lock1.STEP 📎 lock2.STEP

formal marsh Jan 16, 2024, 1:57 PM

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looks like it's back

formal marsh Jan 31, 2024, 7:32 PM

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saving these for reference accel_per_hz: 75

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now its 100

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and now 150

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@raven cliff quick test done with the ADXL on the toolhead I didn't bother to get the other out of the box and set it up

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it actually suggests lower accel

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and lower frequencies

raven cliff Jan 31, 2024, 7:46 PM

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interesting

formal marsh Feb 13, 2024, 10:40 PM

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ressurecting thread with a small update

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ignore warping, but extrusion is quite uneven, ordered integrated gear from fysetc, should arrive tomorrow.
finally building the SUAFT as well parts are ordered too

pale yoke Feb 13, 2024, 10:46 PM

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What extruder do you have?

formal marsh Feb 13, 2024, 10:47 PM

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Relisting so I don't forget

zerog TODO zerog

Eventually reprint some omnibox parts as this PLA one is breaking (delaying this one until next release maybe)
Too many options on rewindera and buffers currently can't decide what to use on the TR
Print SUAFT 🕑 (parts ordered)
Model new sherpa body with fixed idler, filament sensor and ECAS for the new gears

raven cliff Feb 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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formal marsh ressurecting thread with a small update

the fysetc ones are quite good, I really like mine

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 12:08 AM

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formal marsh Relisting so I don't forget <:zerog:753725934913454221> TODO <:zerog:7537259349...

At least with ercf, passive rewinders are not recommended due to being too jerky, I think there are various active rewinders in development

formal marsh Feb 14, 2024, 12:12 AM

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late veldt At least with ercf, passive rewinders are not recommended due to being too jerky...

my initial plan was to try reprewinder and an ERCP (modded for ZeroG logo)

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and decide from those

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https://github.com/SkiBikePrint/ERCF_Mods/tree/main/Filamentalist
this one is interesting

GitHub

ERCF_Mods/Filamentalist at main · SkiBikePrint/ERCF_Mods

Contribute to SkiBikePrint/ERCF_Mods development by creating an account on GitHub.

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 12:26 AM

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formal marsh my initial plan was to try reprewinder and an ERCP (modded for ZeroG logo)

Yeah that's the rewinder design I had been looking into which seemed to not be recommended

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 12:26 AM

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formal marsh https://github.com/SkiBikePrint/ERCF_Mods/tree/main/Filamentalist this one is in...

Oooh that's interesting

formal marsh Feb 14, 2024, 12:46 AM

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not understanding the jerky part really

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 1:25 AM

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I looked it up, the issue is potentially causing the encoder to mess up

formal marsh Feb 14, 2024, 1:36 AM

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well not an issue on TR,first no encoder

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and I don't really see how the ratchet of the rewinder can put any feedback on the encoder if the encoder lives after the gears

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 1:58 AM

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Probably by causing slippage, particularly when not running the gear motor in sync with the extruder

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But huh, wasn't aware the tradrack doesn't use an encoder, does it operate "blindly" wrt filament lengths to feed?

formal marsh Feb 14, 2024, 2:03 AM

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late veldt But huh, wasn't aware the tradrack doesn't use an encoder, does it operate "blin...

TR has a sensor after the gears, and can operate blind from there forward.
or you can add a sensor either before or after extruder

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I like it before as its better to detect if an badly shaped tip got stuck in the extruder when unloading or if the filament reached the extruder when loading

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 2:05 AM

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Ah I see, seems a lot less overcomplicated than ercf lol, I guess that explains the inspiration for the belay

formal marsh Feb 14, 2024, 2:05 AM

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belay is to help keep TR and extruder in sync

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a more brute and cheaper approach compared to encoder

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 2:06 AM

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Yes, what I mean is that since TR doesn't have an active feedback mechanism on lengths, it needs the belay to compensate, while ercf didn't seem to need it, with the software only recently having added support for it

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I'll definitely have to build a TR at some point

formal marsh Feb 14, 2024, 2:07 AM

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for sync yep, still I'm running mine with sync and no issues

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no belay

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 2:07 AM

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Oh I see

formal marsh Feb 14, 2024, 2:08 AM

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an alternative is to every layer change raise and lower TR servo for example

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while not even disabling sync

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also works, but I found I don't need that

late veldt Feb 14, 2024, 2:10 AM

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I see, I have the belay configured, but haven't really noticed any difference either, I see the rate adjustments in the log but haven't really looked at them properly to see if the adjustments are meaningful

formal marsh Feb 14, 2024, 1:27 PM

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new gears arrived, want to make a print before and one after, same gcode so not installing yet

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 1:09 AM

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testing before new gears

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nothing which is weird

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here they are

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ignore corners that's too fast to properly cool

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aaand I'm running the test the wrong way

pale yoke Feb 16, 2024, 8:08 AM

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@formal marsh are those pictures all from the same print?

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 9:06 AM

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pale yoke <@293050635186733056> are those pictures all from the same print?

no, every set of pictures is a different one

pale yoke Feb 16, 2024, 9:09 AM

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so what made the inconsistent layer lines to come back?

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I'm also struggling with them but I'm also still running stock Z

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 9:54 AM

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from first to second, a little faster, thinner layera

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got another on the bed to check that I printed yesterday late night

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 12:56 PM

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now here can be see properly, next step swap gears and reprint this one

pale yoke Feb 16, 2024, 1:00 PM

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Interested in the result with a gear change!

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 1:15 PM

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so am I, will disassemble sherpa in a moment

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 7:08 PM

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new gears finnally in, printing

pale yoke Feb 16, 2024, 7:17 PM

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Fystec gears right?

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 7:36 PM

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yep posting photos in a sec

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fysetc integrated gears, not perfect but

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and side by side

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not perfect but better indeed

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same exact gcode, same filament

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 7:45 PM

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does make me wonder how one might get it even closer to flawless

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 7:46 PM

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I'll take a photo of the same side of the piece side by side, some of the remaining artifacts seem to be the same on both parts which might imply the source is something else

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 7:49 PM

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yeah I had a feeling it might end up involving scraping the bottom of the barrel to get everything else near flawless

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 7:50 PM

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I'm willing to blame leadscrews next if there are artifacts that match on both, even more on a second print with the new gears

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next step (and easiest) is to attempt changing to fixed gear sherpa, I'll use the opportunity to also add an ECAS and built in sensor, this one adds too much height even though I like it separate

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 8:09 PM

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late veldt does make me wonder how one might get it even closer to flawless

I have an extruder design that is slightly better
But also wears down the gears much faster

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Take a look in here
https://github.com/LynxCrew/LynxSherpa
But I really would not recommend using it

GitHub

GitHub - LynxCrew/LynxSherpa: LynxCrew Sherpa Mini/Zero fork

LynxCrew Sherpa Mini/Zero fork. Contribute to LynxCrew/LynxSherpa development by creating an account on GitHub.

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 8:11 PM

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ooh interesting

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so it 'fixes' the idler gear in place? (I'm not sure what you mean by angle adjustment)

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:20 PM

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that one due to the gear wear I'm not fond of trying it

proud marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:25 PM

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late veldt does make me wonder how one might get it even closer to flawless

maybe nextruder like gears 🤔

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:26 PM

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orbiter is closer I believe

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 8:26 PM

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or that one extruder that uses belts

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:30 PM

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papilio

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 8:36 PM

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Oh right, yeah, papilio, I think it had some experimental fully printed version, might give that a try for fun

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:45 PM

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https://kevinakasam.com/papilio/

KevinAkaSam's Sandbox

admin

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 8:46 PM

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Ah nvm, wasn't fully printed, what I was thinking of was a failed experiment to have some of its gears printable (from their discord)

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:46 PM

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I considered it but a few things stopped me, one of them being the gears prices

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it has some printed gears but the ones that drive the filamennt are LGX

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or toothed idlers or something

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 8:47 PM

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Yeah, bit more of an investment for just an experiment

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It's also probably much heavier

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:48 PM

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also no sensor

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 8:54 PM

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formal marsh orbiter is closer I believe

Orbiter fixes the backlash between stepper and drive gear
Not backlash between both drive gears

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Imo Galileo 2 with an integrated drive gear would be almost perfect
Planetary gearbox to reduce/remove any backlash between stepper and drive gear
Big Single drive gear to remove backlash between the dual drive gears
And integrated drive gear to remove offset

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:56 PM

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now same side

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 8:56 PM

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proud marsh maybe nextruder like gears 🤔

Nextruder is pretty good
Having 2 large gears in series removes a lot of play

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 8:56 PM

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hmm shaky photo

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 8:57 PM

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late veldt so it 'fixes' the idler gear in place? (I'm not sure what you mean by angle adju...

If the adjustment screw is adjusted well you remove basically any backlash between both drive gears
Though that causes excessive wear
That's why I recommend not using it even though it's my mod/design(I improved upon the Sherpa zero)

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 8:58 PM

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Ahh

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 8:58 PM

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The fysetc helical gears are pretty close to perfect imo
Low weight and low wood grain

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there is also another reason for wood grain which even the best extruder couldnt remove:
inconsistent filament diameter

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 9:00 PM

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good point

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 9:03 PM

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so imo getting the fysetc gears is good (since the price is also really fair imo)
Personally I wouldnt get a genuine ridga again
way more expensive while actually being slightly worse than the fysetc ones (well with the LynxSherpa they were a tad better, like 0.1% but I guess they will wear down in one year and I'm not gonna buy a 40€ gear set every year for that little of an improvement)

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 9:06 PM

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for under 17€ the gears are damn great

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I'm happy with the improvement, I want to try the fixed idler next because I also want to integrate sensor and ECAS into it

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someone at Annex made one but uses switch with lever and I want to try without

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 9:07 PM

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especially since they should have more wear resistance (a mate of mine used their standalone ones in his vyper and he prints a lot of abrasives, he said the nano coated fysetc gears lasted way longer than the original vyper gears)

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 9:08 PM

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formal marsh I'm happy with the improvement, I want to try the fixed idler next because I als...

there is also a body for the normal sherpa for a collet clip

proud marsh Feb 16, 2024, 9:13 PM

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raven cliff there is also a body for the normal sherpa for a collet clip

but the fixed idler doesn’t have the idler thumb screw (lighter) and it actually worked great for me. it will also remove some issues using the sherpa with manis style fan ducts

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 9:19 PM

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Looking at the fysetc gears, they don't have the "curve" on the filament grooves, like these have
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLA3iK2 unsure if they're meaningful though

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 9:21 PM

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late veldt Looking at the fysetc gears, they don't have the "curve" on the filament grooves...

curve on the filament gears is actually not that good imo

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 9:21 PM

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Oh?

raven cliff Feb 16, 2024, 9:21 PM

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late veldt Oh?

it twists the filament, causing other issues

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 9:22 PM

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Ah I see

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 9:25 PM

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https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJT9Qhx

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I got these

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 9:39 PM

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Ordered

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 9:47 PM

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late veldt Ordered

this discord os terrible for our wallets

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 9:47 PM

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Ikr lol, recently discovered the ender ng from here and now I have to convince myself to not immediately jump on building it

gleaming whale Feb 16, 2024, 9:59 PM

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formal marsh this discord os terrible for our wallets

Better than another I am on, they do group buys and not just 3d printer stuff.

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 10:11 PM

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late veldt Ikr lol, recently discovered the ender ng from here and now I have to convince m...

don't say anything about new printers, I won a set of panels for a RR V-Core... I don't have a VCore...

late veldt Feb 16, 2024, 10:12 PM

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Haha yeah, you mentioned that dilemma

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 10:14 PM

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sorry I'm repetitive

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wait this is my log, I can do whatever I want here!

gleaming whale Feb 16, 2024, 11:16 PM

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formal marsh don't say anything about new printers, I won a set of panels for a RR V-Core... ...

Yet, gotta use those panels you won!

formal marsh Feb 16, 2024, 11:17 PM

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gleaming whale Yet, gotta use those panels you won!

yup....

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it would be easy to wait if there wasn't any discount on the base kit

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self sourcing it is actually more expensive 🤷

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but the discount is roughly 150e

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:26 AM

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soooo unklicky started misbehaving

late veldt Feb 25, 2024, 2:26 AM

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oh? in what way

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:26 AM

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probe accuracy results: maximum 16.050000, minimum 15.992500, range 0.057500, average 16.023000, median 16.022500, standard deviation 0.017529

late veldt Feb 25, 2024, 2:26 AM

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ouch

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maybe something came loose?

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:27 AM

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usually there's another 0 to the right of the dot

late veldt Feb 25, 2024, 2:27 AM

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is this the bfp version?

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:27 AM

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yup

late veldt Feb 25, 2024, 2:28 AM

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huh, wouldn't expect that design's pin to loosen up

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:28 AM

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it's like 10 good samples stupid consistent, then one wayyy off

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let me see if I can get a snippet of the log

late veldt Feb 25, 2024, 2:28 AM

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maybe something else came loose?

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:30 AM

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had duct screws loose, also was missing one 😅

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but didn't fix it

late veldt Feb 25, 2024, 2:30 AM

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oof

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:32 AM

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running new test

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cant find the log

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this shit

late veldt Feb 25, 2024, 2:48 AM

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yeah that feels like the pin wiggle I had in my non-bfp unklicky

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:54 AM

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time to print another

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2 actually

gleaming whale Feb 25, 2024, 1:40 PM

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Do one as a bfp-hs

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 1:44 PM

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gleaming whale Do one as a bfp-hs

it IS BFP-HS 😭

gleaming whale Feb 25, 2024, 1:49 PM

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Seems like it’s time for unklicky-00?

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 1:57 PM

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ehhh too bulky

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probe accuracy results: maximum 15.800000, minimum 15.727500, range 0.072500, average 15.771800, median 15.772500, standard deviation 0.015887
Disassembled and reassembled same shit, wrap up this filament calibration and print a new one

gleaming whale Feb 25, 2024, 2:00 PM

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I’m going to start stuffing with load cells

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 2:16 PM

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I'm waiting on those to be widely available

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impl klipper side is work in progress

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 7:10 PM

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probe accuracy results: maximum 0.180000, minimum 0.037500, range 0.142500, average 0.093700, median 0.061250, standard deviation 0.054576 now the unbolt WTF

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I'm so close to drop the money on the bacon

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new test unbolt now good again, unklicky messed up, and I have no idea where I put the switch of the original klicky

raven cliff Feb 25, 2024, 7:36 PM

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from my experience this happens when the magnets are not seated properly and the probe can wiggle

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 8:16 PM

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raven cliff from my experience this happens when the magnets are not seated properly and the...

have checked them, not that I can see

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meanwhile found old d2f klicky will test it, can help print new ones

formal marsh Feb 25, 2024, 8:32 PM

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d2f one works good enough, I'll print new unklicky

formal marsh Feb 28, 2024, 1:52 AM

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I'm actually surprised this went so good, put the old klicky, heat up, adjust switch offset for this probe, send print and forgot

formal marsh Mar 10, 2024, 1:54 PM

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well I'm dumb

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new unklicky:
probe accuracy results: maximum 15.510000, minimum 15.500000, range 0.010000, average 15.506620, median 15.507500, standard deviation 0.001605

the problem with the old one? has an M3x12 which is too short and was wiggling when probing... new has a longer one with 16mm a little too long but works damn good
old unklicky with longer screw:
probe accuracy results: maximum 15.985000, minimum 15.975000, range 0.010000, average 15.980050, median 15.980000, standard deviation 0.001968

raven cliff Mar 10, 2024, 1:58 PM

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you technically need m3x13
so basically get a m3x16 and cut it

formal marsh Mar 10, 2024, 2:00 PM

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yeahhh that's what I get for not reading the spec and thinking the 12 would work, 13 will still be short due to the amount of wire I use, I just hacked the back to have a through hole

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will re-design later the STEP as I don't mind the little tip of the screw in the back and it actually secures better

raven cliff Mar 10, 2024, 2:01 PM

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for UnklickyNG BFP the doc says m3x12, which is actually too short

formal marsh Mar 10, 2024, 2:03 PM

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yep it is it's the one I use

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on the bright side now I have spares

proud marsh Mar 10, 2024, 2:39 PM

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raven cliff for UnklickyNG BFP the doc says m3x12, which is actually too short

I don’t know why they didn’t put an hsi for that screw, it’s the only thing that I don’t like, bolting on a thread on plastic always gives me goosebumps

formal marsh Mar 10, 2024, 2:39 PM

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no room I think

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might check if I can fit a 3.6mm one

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3.6x3 actually

proud marsh Mar 10, 2024, 3:06 PM

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maybe a hex nut or something. but I understand it’s in theory a set and forget screw that one… If something is off, you print another one anyway

formal marsh Mar 10, 2024, 3:41 PM

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ehhh sort of, today building one of them I had to pull the screw out 2 times, needless to say it's deviation is a little higher

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now on to print the suaft

formal marsh Mar 14, 2024, 8:30 PM

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@pale cloak finally

formal marsh Mar 14, 2024, 9:02 PM

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I wonder what happened there

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ohhh warp 😅

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well unless its not functional not printint another its a waste of filament

pale cloak Mar 14, 2024, 9:32 PM

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woop woop!

formal marsh Mar 14, 2024, 9:45 PM

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should be good despite quality

formal marsh Mar 18, 2024, 10:24 PM

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well SUAFT is printed, someone forgot how to mount it

solar stratus Mar 18, 2024, 10:38 PM

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hot glue, duct tape, and cable ties

formal marsh Mar 18, 2024, 10:39 PM

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engineers best friends

formal marsh May 9, 2024, 11:28 PM

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@lyric quartz

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pics lost in the thread

lyric quartz May 10, 2024, 5:27 AM

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lol im tryna scroll up

formal marsh May 10, 2024, 10:39 AM

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lyric quartz lol im tryna scroll up

yeah it's loooong

formal marsh May 11, 2024, 5:47 PM

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been tempted to pull my current bed heater out, drill new holes on the bed and put a new heater from Fysetc

pale yoke May 12, 2024, 1:18 PM

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Any reason why?

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Fystec one is not a edge to edge one. Just a normal one

solar stratus May 12, 2024, 1:25 PM

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Their heater goes close enough to the edge. No need to run heaters to the very edge

formal marsh May 12, 2024, 1:55 PM

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pale yoke Any reason why?

reason being my bed has the front holes in the wrong place and still have some Z atrifacts that may be caused by my adapters, drilling as is will destroy the heater so need another

formal marsh May 12, 2024, 1:55 PM

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solar stratus Their heater goes close enough to the edge. No need to run heaters to the very e...

yeah thats my reasoning as well

pale yoke May 12, 2024, 1:56 PM

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formal marsh reason being my bed has the front holes in the wrong place and still have some Z...

oooh I forgot you're using a voron plate

formal marsh May 12, 2024, 1:57 PM

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pale yoke oooh I forgot you're using a voron plate

exactly

solar stratus May 12, 2024, 2:06 PM

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My original 5 plus bed had a 300x300 heater

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Worked just fine

formal marsh May 12, 2024, 3:35 PM

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fysetc heater would have an advantage too, 600W vs my current 300

pale yoke May 12, 2024, 5:22 PM

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Oh yeah, I like my fystec heater. It gets to 110 quickly!

formal marsh May 29, 2024, 11:12 AM

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Flow - Born from an E5Pro

formal marsh Jun 7, 2024, 11:31 AM

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not much updates here but here are some plans:
New bed to replace the voron one with adapters, no specific reason other than being tired of looking at the adapters and wanting a more powerful heater, Fysetc one is here along with hard magnet, bed will be done by @quartz tide just waiting on it (no rush)
new sensor on sherpa being designed (thanks @deft geode for the test prints)
designing buffers to attach to spool rollers (roller is @pale cloak design from his drybox) buffer designing my own to attach to it
to be done find a way to make a cutter for E34M1 (I don't like any current design)

formal marsh Jun 8, 2024, 4:44 PM

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buffer WIP

formal marsh Jun 10, 2024, 1:23 PM

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getting there

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taking way longer than I expected

pale cloak Jun 10, 2024, 2:07 PM

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formal marsh getting there

damn. that's a lot of material. buffers seem to require more space than one expects.

formal marsh Jun 10, 2024, 2:09 PM

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pale cloak damn. that's a lot of material. buffers seem to require more space than one expe...

quite a bit, can be minimised but I like having the filament more constrained, makes for a smaller possibility of tangling. those horizontal arms might be able to do without them

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still need some fillets and ECAS mounting to test print

formal marsh Jun 10, 2024, 8:18 PM

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less material on the base

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there might be a weak spot there with the hexagons

formal marsh Jun 11, 2024, 2:03 PM

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discarded base hexagons, they don't reduce material at 20% infill (what I'm planning) make print slower and have weak spots

pale cloak Jun 11, 2024, 4:25 PM

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looks good!

formal marsh Jun 11, 2024, 5:15 PM

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one final check and I'll start printing it

formal marsh Jun 12, 2024, 1:43 PM

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also took pictures of the heater and magnet, this will look damn good

solar stratus Jun 12, 2024, 2:24 PM

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I just ordered 2 more of those magnets

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After my printer ate one this weekend.... and I had to steal the one for my new build to replace it

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So I will have one spare

formal marsh Jun 12, 2024, 2:30 PM

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I'm hoping I dont engrave any 😅

solar stratus Jun 12, 2024, 2:50 PM

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formal marsh Jun 12, 2024, 3:38 PM

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RIP
I saw it on #demolition_derby hurts even watching

tired pike Jun 12, 2024, 11:37 PM

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formal marsh also took pictures of the heater and magnet, this will look damn good

Looks very good POG

formal marsh Jun 13, 2024, 8:24 PM

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first buffer

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seems to handle 3 loops fine, each loop roughly 60cm of filament, so I could get away with making it slightly smaller as I need wither 70cm or 90cm (from TR load and unload values which are not very correct)

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next up a cutter

tired pike Jun 14, 2024, 1:09 AM

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Looks nice

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And it doesn't take much filament

formal marsh Jun 14, 2024, 1:02 PM

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no but takes some space

formal marsh Jun 14, 2024, 4:06 PM

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taking notes on buffer:

base can be 5mm instead of 7, just add some material on heat insert area where screws into the roller
add cutout to pull ecas out more easily
measure screws, attempt to standardize one size
maybe make side "arms" a little smaller, sometimes the filament instead of making nice loops extends up and into the back, making it shorter might help.

formal marsh Jun 15, 2024, 11:48 AM

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new version 2.5mm smaller base (because shorter arms)

formal marsh Jun 22, 2024, 7:52 PM

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new sherpa sensor in

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still need to organize that wiring and shorten the stepper one

tired pike Jun 22, 2024, 8:02 PM

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Looking nice

formal marsh Jun 22, 2024, 9:34 PM

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cutter concept, not sure if this will work

tired pike Jun 22, 2024, 9:59 PM

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I think that I have seen some eva3 cutter somewhere.. if I find it I will share

formal marsh Jun 22, 2024, 10:08 PM

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tired pike I think that I have seen some eva3 cutter somewhere.. if I find it I will share

there are some on printables, I don't like them

formal marsh Jun 24, 2024, 7:22 PM

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wellll shit, after re-soldering the hotend fan sent a print... without testing the fan

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CLOGGED RAPIDO!!

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accepting tips before I even start

tired pike Jun 24, 2024, 9:25 PM

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Eish... Nozzle out and with a "poke" with the size of the filament and long enough push the clog out

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Something similar

formal marsh Jun 24, 2024, 10:15 PM

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turns out it was mostly heatbreak

raven cliff Jun 25, 2024, 11:07 AM

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formal marsh CLOGGED RAPIDO!!

rapido heatbreak is delicate, ask me how I know
if you heat it up, make sure the top didnt curl inwards, if it did, take the small allen key that came with it and use it to uncurl it

formal marsh Jun 25, 2024, 11:08 AM

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raven cliff rapido heatbreak is delicate, ask me how I know if you heat it up, make sure the...

looked good, still need to print again to check it

raven cliff Jun 25, 2024, 11:09 AM

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formal marsh looked good, still need to print again to check it

just wanted to let you know
cause I didnt notice it curling inwards and that was another nasty clog, let me tell you XD

tired pike Jun 25, 2024, 1:30 PM

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raven cliff rapido heatbreak is delicate, ask me how I know if you heat it up, make sure the...

I didn't know that.... Maybe I would give another chance to rapido 😅

formal marsh Jun 28, 2024, 2:31 PM

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meanwhile printed another buffer

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still some things to tweak

pale cloak Jun 28, 2024, 3:00 PM

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formal marsh meanwhile printed another buffer

how's that going, btw?

formal marsh Jun 28, 2024, 3:05 PM

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pale cloak how's that going, btw?

good, still need a cutter, went through printables but I'm still not happy with any, not happy with my design either so there's that

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turns out I need more buffer than I initially thought, and with this design filament might tangle a little, need to run some loads/unloads

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I didn't want to but may need to further enclose the filament, want to test 3 loops too (which fit the buffer fine)

formal marsh Jul 4, 2024, 10:17 AM

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new bed arriving most likely today

formal marsh Jul 4, 2024, 11:48 AM

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it is here, damn it looks nice
@quartz tide thank you

quartz tide Jul 4, 2024, 4:42 PM

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formal marsh it is here, damn it looks nice <@700615398445416499> thank you

gladly 🙂 anytime again 😊

formal marsh Jul 5, 2024, 12:06 PM

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mesh on the new bed, looks good to me, pretty sure my frame could get some further adjustment also this is still the bare plate with the protective plastic

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Retries: 0/5 Probed points range: 0.011250 tolerance: 0.050000 POG this z tilt...

proud marsh Jul 5, 2024, 7:19 PM

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formal marsh mesh on the new bed, looks good to me, pretty sure my frame could get some furth...

that’s pretty similar to my mesh (fysetc 255), [0.14-0.08]. I guess the protective plastic will give you some unevenness, so yours could be even better

formal marsh Jul 5, 2024, 7:19 PM

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still want to take it out and mesh

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need to find my IPA to give it a good clean as well

proud marsh Jul 5, 2024, 7:22 PM

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formal marsh still want to take it out and mesh

also, didn’t you get the zeroG hard magnet 🤤?

formal marsh Jul 5, 2024, 7:22 PM

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proud marsh also, didn’t you get the zeroG hard magnet 🤤?

yes I did

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full on

formal marsh Jul 17, 2024, 6:23 PM

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Added some RTV today, probably didn't need it, but screw it better safe than sorry

formal marsh Aug 1, 2024, 1:27 PM

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new bed still not in, got an order and have been printing it, next need to tune the red ABS for the RedFox build

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sooo not yet

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meanwhile new sherpa had adjustments since filament sometimes wouldn't load, triggers sensor but then doesn't go down, need to find the cause

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still not perfect, wish it was completely transparent

formal marsh Aug 5, 2024, 10:09 PM

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small update, swapped for tr8x4 (stolen from the rat build) one of the nuts was wiggling need new nuts for the rat

formal marsh Aug 7, 2024, 4:51 PM

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meh something not good

formal marsh Aug 7, 2024, 5:48 PM

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roughly 4mm spaced, matches leadscrews so need to find if its the nuts binding or something misaligned

solar stratus Aug 7, 2024, 5:50 PM

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Also make sure the couplers are tight on the motors and leadscrews

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I had 2 slipping on my new build at first

formal marsh Aug 7, 2024, 5:53 PM

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I'll double check, but I find it odd matching the rotation distance, betting on something misaligned

formal marsh Aug 7, 2024, 7:26 PM

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aaand it's there 4mm

sand ridge Aug 7, 2024, 7:32 PM

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maybe the back hydra extrusion isnt squared

formal marsh Aug 7, 2024, 9:17 PM

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sand ridge maybe the back hydra extrusion isnt squared

unlikely but I'll be checking everything at this point

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replace every part I can, starting with the bed

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if doesn't fix it swap couplers maybe try the 8x8 again to compare using the same filament
double check rail alignment and finally reprint hydra

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I'll miss my PCCF parts but

solar stratus Aug 7, 2024, 10:03 PM

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if you loosen the motor couplers, do all 3 lead screws want to naturally want to line up with the motor shafts?

sand ridge Aug 8, 2024, 12:29 PM

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formal marsh meh something not good

It kinda looks like this https://youtu.be/qNCDXdjJb90?si=YCrKkMRgwn4po5dG

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formal marsh Aug 8, 2024, 12:31 PM

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yes but its consistent with the rotation distance

formal marsh Aug 8, 2024, 3:39 PM

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solar stratus if you loosen the motor couplers, do all 3 lead screws want to naturally want to...

front ones yes, back one is a little off

formal marsh Aug 8, 2024, 4:04 PM

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well, first finding, back stepper screws were too long, 10mm instead of 8

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might be the cause, might not

formal marsh Aug 8, 2024, 4:19 PM

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1 leadscrew is a little bent

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might try the oldhams I got for the rat

formal marsh Aug 8, 2024, 4:54 PM

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better

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but still there

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next step try the 8x8 again

formal marsh Aug 8, 2024, 5:23 PM

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formal marsh Aug 8, 2024, 6:06 PM

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rat oldhams won't fit

formal marsh Aug 8, 2024, 7:42 PM

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back to 8x8

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not sure if the filament is not properly dried or if it's due to having a little glitter

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still some binding but screws were not even lubricated and they're probably still dirty

formal marsh Aug 9, 2024, 8:11 PM

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finally

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sexbolt had to come off, the ground screw hits it need to see how to fix that

formal marsh Aug 10, 2024, 1:23 PM

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Retries: 2/5 Probed points range: 0.028750 tolerance: 0.050000

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mesh on the magnet

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tilt on build plate Retries: 2/5 Probed points range: 0.038750 tolerance: 0.050000

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similar to previous bed

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full bed mesh with sheet, I'll take it

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frame might still be a little off

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damn now this heats up fast

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love it

proud marsh Aug 10, 2024, 3:15 PM

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first time I didn’t believe it was already at 90C after not even a minute, I had to touch it 😅

formal marsh Aug 10, 2024, 4:21 PM

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yeah 1 min 30 sec to go from RT to 100C

formal marsh Aug 10, 2024, 10:03 PM

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hmm looks very similar to the red one, this was printed on the new bed

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filament is dried

formal marsh Aug 11, 2024, 6:08 PM

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https://www.printables.com/model/82829-oldham-couplers-for-ender-5-pro-plus-z-axis

printed one of these, added it to the leadscrew that looks worse, seems to print fine will print 2 more at least will help figure out if it helps

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formal marsh Aug 11, 2024, 8:52 PM

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ehhh forgot these will not hold the bed

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pulling the plate up lifts everything

formal marsh Aug 12, 2024, 5:49 PM

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dumping random thoughts, cutter used works great but shaper suffers, I'm also using the thr adxl need to move my ass and configure the PIS.
my buffers suck, that's the truth, good for short lengths for my use case not really
think the embedded design on EVA is too much work and not even sure if it will be reliable

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also z offset is getting inconsistent

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also a swap

late veldt Aug 14, 2024, 6:32 PM

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formal marsh pulling the plate up lifts everything

yeah I was using flexible couplers between the steppers and lead screws, and realized the same issue, removed them because they were likely causing tilt correction to be imprecise back when using klicky, maybe they aren't as much of a problem with beacon, haven't tried

formal marsh Aug 14, 2024, 7:15 PM

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late veldt yeah I was using flexible couplers between the steppers and lead screws, and rea...

not sure but since I'm still with klicky

late veldt Aug 14, 2024, 7:47 PM

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ah, yeah in that case I'd probably recommend against oldhams

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since if you try to do tilt correction based on all 4 corners, the rear two corners might be able to cause the bed to tilt slightly when pressing down

formal marsh Aug 14, 2024, 7:59 PM

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@late veldt no issues yet but only have a printed one on one corner, need something better than the current one, might try to print something else just to check if they help with the remaining wobble

formal marsh Aug 16, 2024, 11:44 AM

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finally flashed PIS properly

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y is great

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but X

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is a fucking mess

proud marsh Aug 16, 2024, 12:23 PM

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I think it looks ok, the peak at106 is the real one, you just have something else going on. in general the density is lower. I think once you remove whatever is going on in the x (I think the cutter might be the biggest contributor there) the 106 Hz peak will stand out

formal marsh Aug 16, 2024, 6:30 PM

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time to retire the BTT SFS

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swapping with another

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 12:10 PM

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oooor make a new body for this one

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 12:11 PM

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formal marsh oooor make a new body for this one

it’s that a thing?

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 12:17 PM

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proud marsh it’s that a thing?

not that I'm aware but it's an idea, I can integrate the screw to attach on the enclosure

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it's one of the issues, also add some chamfers to help filament go the right place

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 12:18 PM

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it’s difficult to get filament is also in mine, so it’s probably a design flaw

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But I have issues mostly with pla, that tends to snaps instead of entering the SFS, I resolved by stopping using pla 😅

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 12:46 PM

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yeah but wallet and multi colour screams pla

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cheaper and more color choice

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 6:17 PM

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Petg for life!!!

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 6:27 PM

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sand ridge Petg for life!!!

meh used to be my first choice, getting tired of it, sticks too much on the nozzle

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 6:47 PM

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what do you print then?

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 7:02 PM

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pla abs and asa

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 7:19 PM

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petg is nice if you can’t enclose and need functional parts. it’s decent for hardware tools and maybe even printers parts, if not enclosed

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 8:05 PM

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proud marsh petg is nice if you can’t enclose and need functional parts. it’s decent for har...

I also find it easier to print than pla

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 8:26 PM

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yeah, like I said I used to think that as well

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 8:26 PM

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what did u do to ake it easier?

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 9:15 PM

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sand ridge what did u do to ake it easier?

which?

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 9:17 PM

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pla

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 9:28 PM

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sand ridge pla

for me, pla became easier to print when I started using the tradrack motor to assist the extrusion, 99% of my issues with pla were filament path related. with 2 motors never had that problem again 😅

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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I have to crank up my cpap to 67% and print super slow

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I feel like pla is converting this printer to a stock E5

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 9:52 PM

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WTF I print faster than that on a dual 5015

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:10 PM

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at what temperature are you printing

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:10 PM

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190

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:15 PM

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sand ridge 190

oh, I print pla at 220-240, even if the label would say 190 😅

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:15 PM

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higher temps were even worse

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:15 PM

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after testing of course

solar stratus Aug 17, 2024, 10:16 PM

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Some pla or quality pla should be printed a little hotter.

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:16 PM

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proud marsh oh, I print pla at 220-240, even if the label would say 190 😅

some PLAs I print go at 235, and faaaast

solar stratus Aug 17, 2024, 10:16 PM

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A lot of blends are designed for lower temps

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:17 PM

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sand ridge I feel like pla is converting this printer to a stock E5

are you enclosed?

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:17 PM

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how do you think I print plastic braces that can handle being tightened by a screw to death without breaking

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:17 PM

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this is a cheap pla that someone bought for me to print them some things I ususaly dont have this much problems with pla

solar stratus Aug 17, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Dry it

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:17 PM

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proud marsh are you enclosed?

nah

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:18 PM

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solar stratus Dry it

I was drying it for like 12h

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42c

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or even longer

solar stratus Aug 17, 2024, 10:18 PM

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I would just toss it and move on then

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:19 PM

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I have to print these 2 models in it

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:19 PM

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sand ridge this is a cheap pla that someone bought for me to print them some things I ususa...

why so high cpap, can you see that it doesn’t dry fast enough? I have never seen this, only when testing high speed on vaseline mode, maybe

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:19 PM

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for reference, how it looks like before being tightened

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sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:20 PM

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proud marsh why so high cpap, can you see that it doesn’t dry fast enough? I have never seen...

it just didnt like going over 100mms and cpap under 60 on overhangs

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:21 PM

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formal marsh

thats how stong it is when I print petg

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:21 PM

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proud marsh why so high cpap, can you see that it doesn’t dry fast enough? I have never seen...

vaseline mode, I'm going to start calling that to vase mode

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:21 PM

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hahahah

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:21 PM

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vaseline mode on top

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:21 PM

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damnit autocorrect

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:21 PM

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zesty merc

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:22 PM

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proud marsh damnit autocorrect

keep it

proud marsh Aug 17, 2024, 10:23 PM

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yes, not I can’t correct it anymore, it needs to stay

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 10:24 PM

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forever be on this server marked in history

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 11:01 PM

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also

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first proper TR print

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 11:18 PM

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Nice

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Now fill the trad rack with collors and prin this

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 11:20 PM

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9 lanes should be enough, but I need better buffers or rewinders

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filament got stuck some times

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 11:22 PM

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Ive seen someone use one of the big plastic boxes from ikea and put some rollers in there with holes for ptfe

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And he printed deviders for it so the filament doesnt tangle

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 11:24 PM

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leaves spools too loose not a fan

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 11:27 PM

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Also some time ago I think there was a printed self revinding spool holder

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But I forgot where I saw it

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 11:29 PM

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there's a few

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winchrack, filamentalist

sand ridge Aug 17, 2024, 11:30 PM

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How does it work?

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Does it have a motor or something?

formal marsh Aug 17, 2024, 11:36 PM

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winchrack has motor, filamentalist uses the filament being pushed back to rewind the spool

formal marsh Aug 22, 2024, 5:30 PM

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getting really tired of this ABS, a PITA to stick

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need to try another plate

proud marsh Aug 22, 2024, 7:06 PM

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formal marsh getting really tired of this ABS, a PITA to stick

did it warp and snap off the bed, or just didn’t stick enough?

raven cliff Aug 22, 2024, 7:16 PM

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formal marsh getting really tired of this ABS, a PITA to stick

You got an alchemy smooth plate?
If yes try that

formal marsh Aug 22, 2024, 8:29 PM

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proud marsh did it warp and snap off the bed, or just didn’t stick enough?

warping on back

formal marsh Aug 22, 2024, 8:30 PM

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raven cliff You got an alchemy smooth plate? If yes try that

yes, already tried the textured but didn't stick

raven cliff Aug 22, 2024, 8:30 PM

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Textured can be tricky
Sticks better than any other I have tried but smooth is still way better from my experience

formal marsh Aug 26, 2024, 6:26 PM

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well and now z tilt doesn't work how fun

formal marsh Aug 29, 2024, 7:19 PM

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been fighting some artifacts from the leadscrews, added oldhams and fixed the top of the leadscrews not perfect but way better

formal marsh Aug 30, 2024, 10:56 PM

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ehhhh

formal marsh Aug 31, 2024, 12:49 PM

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500mm/s mesh

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at 300, I was thinking there was a difference but no

proud marsh Aug 31, 2024, 3:06 PM

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enjoying the new toy?

tired pike Aug 31, 2024, 3:34 PM

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What is your probe? beacon?

formal marsh Aug 31, 2024, 4:26 PM

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cartographer

formal marsh Aug 31, 2024, 9:16 PM

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running a first layer

proud marsh Aug 31, 2024, 9:35 PM

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formal marsh running a first layer

aaaaand?

formal marsh Aug 31, 2024, 9:48 PM

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proud marsh aaaaand?

weird, half good half bad

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but this is ABS, and I didn't heat soak shit

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so need to properly test

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also I calibrated cold, so might try hot

formal marsh Sep 1, 2024, 1:19 AM

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did hot calibration and fine tuned z again, looks good

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now need a good way to prevent oozing

formal marsh Sep 1, 2024, 5:50 PM

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and guess who found a broken 5015 fan wire broken fixed it but forgot to test the fan

formal marsh Sep 1, 2024, 7:13 PM

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nope dead mosfet, must have shorted when the wire broke

formal marsh Sep 1, 2024, 9:28 PM

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first layer could use a little adjustment

tired pike Sep 2, 2024, 1:19 AM

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formal marsh cartographer

Nice.. what are your thoughts?

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Was thinking if it was an option for me to run it by can bus.. so that I could free one USB in my pi

formal marsh Sep 2, 2024, 1:22 AM

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tired pike Nice.. what are your thoughts?

so far has been good, I'm running through USB though, couldn't be bothered fiddling with my THR to splice CAN

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but the tap functionality works as expected and for less than half the price of Beacon

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which my wallet loved

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tempted to get another for the rat

tired pike Sep 2, 2024, 1:24 AM

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Uhm you convinced me 😅

formal marsh Sep 2, 2024, 1:26 AM

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wasn't even trying

proud marsh Sep 2, 2024, 8:17 AM

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tired pike Uhm you convinced me 😅

I’ve asked about the IDM scanner at 3do, and they said it works with carto firmware (survey tap)… so maybe idm and carto are indeed the same thing?

tired pike Sep 2, 2024, 8:18 AM

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proud marsh I’ve asked about the IDM scanner at 3do, and they said it works with carto firmw...

That would be awesome

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I will try that

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Does anyone knows how to remove the Idm firmware from Klipper?

formal marsh Sep 2, 2024, 10:56 AM

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proud marsh I’ve asked about the IDM scanner at 3do, and they said it works with carto firmw...

carto has the open bed scanner thing so could be based off that

formal marsh Sep 2, 2024, 10:56 AM

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tired pike Does anyone knows how to remove the Idm firmware from Klipper?

what do you mean?

tired pike Sep 2, 2024, 10:57 AM

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formal marsh what do you mean?

Forget it 😄 it's fixed

formal marsh Sep 2, 2024, 10:57 AM

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tired pike Forget it 😄 it's fixed

what were you even talking about? 😅

proud marsh Sep 2, 2024, 12:06 PM

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tired pike Forget it 😄 it's fixed

so did you use the survey touch firmware on the idm?

formal marsh Sep 2, 2024, 12:25 PM

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Changed feet today, now it's a small printed piece with a small adhesive felt pad.
Shaper before:

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shaper after:

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slightly better, X still a little messed up

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but I blame the cutter for that one

tired pike Sep 2, 2024, 8:28 PM

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proud marsh so did you use the survey touch firmware on the idm?

not yet

formal marsh Sep 20, 2024, 9:33 PM

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finally setup shaketune

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still looks like crap

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I need to improve the toolhead, with the cutter things got very out of balance

late veldt Sep 21, 2024, 12:24 PM

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Yeah mine looks similarly awful, but haven't had time to look into ways to improve, kind of thinking of getting the cnc toolhead, I figure its rigidity would help a lot

formal marsh Sep 21, 2024, 3:49 PM

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late veldt Yeah mine looks similarly awful, but haven't had time to look into ways to impro...

same thought crossed my mind, but price and having to go back to single 5015 or move to CPAP (more money)

proud marsh Sep 21, 2024, 3:59 PM

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formal marsh same thought crossed my mind, but price and having to go back to single 5015 or ...

and you’d still have the cutter to cause vibrations, probably. and arguably metal might transmits even more that kind of vibration

formal marsh Sep 21, 2024, 4:00 PM

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proud marsh and you’d still have the cutter to cause vibrations, probably. and arguably meta...

that cutter is going to change at some point

gleaming whale Oct 1, 2024, 8:13 PM

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@tired pike @proud marsh IDM won’t get proper support on the carto discord. Richard doesn’t offer support for IDM but there are a lot of helpful people there that might help.

tired pike Oct 1, 2024, 8:16 PM

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gleaming whale <@932315750163685386> <@261571630109556746> IDM won’t get proper support on the ...

Nice good to know

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Thanks

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I have switched to Cartographer on my machine and am really liking it

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The Idm doesn't have much support anywhere

proud marsh Oct 1, 2024, 8:18 PM

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gleaming whale <@932315750163685386> <@261571630109556746> IDM won’t get proper support on the ...

yes, I ask at 3do why they provide the IDM and not carto, Thomas told me they are the same. But than I asked Richard if he knew why 3do only stocks IDM, and he told me they reached out to him, he replied but they never replied back… unfortunately the IDM seems more expansive and doesn’t have any support

tired pike Oct 1, 2024, 11:43 PM

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proud marsh yes, I ask at 3do why they provide the IDM and not carto, Thomas told me they ar...

Yeah probably because Idm sells in AliExpress and its more available that way..

formal marsh Oct 2, 2024, 12:03 PM

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even with the weird spikes, it seem sthe shaper will clean it quite well

formal marsh Oct 11, 2024, 7:50 PM

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finally a version I'm happy with, might not even need buffers

formal marsh Oct 12, 2024, 10:56 AM

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well shit, 75mm spools don't fit, only without the rollers

formal marsh Oct 12, 2024, 3:08 PM

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also I'm an idiot, was going to make a 80cm shelf, but the boxes (8) take a little more than 10cm each, almost 11, so need a 90cm one, at least I did remember that before I made it

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not that I like it but I guess I'll respool the 3 problematic ones

formal marsh Oct 13, 2024, 8:32 AM

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ordered the wood ready, just need to cut down from 120cm to 90, I could make one but don't feel like having the extra effort

formal marsh Oct 13, 2024, 1:18 PM

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let's see if this becomes #demolition_derby material

formal marsh Oct 13, 2024, 5:35 PM

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could be worse, out of 10 6 survived, and if it wasnt for DK z hop none

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and yes I tuned speed down on the tops

formal marsh Oct 16, 2024, 1:15 PM

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wood for the shelf arrived time to get the saw out and chop this down

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tired pike Oct 16, 2024, 4:37 PM

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hey... this is starting to look like a carpentry log.... 🤣

formal marsh Oct 16, 2024, 4:52 PM

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tired pike hey... this is starting to look like a carpentry log.... 🤣

just one shelf, I promise 😆

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there's logic to all the madness

formal marsh Oct 19, 2024, 8:02 PM

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I promise it's not going to become a woodworking log, here's how the boxes will sit on the shelf, might even add the buffers screwed under the shelf if there's room for it

formal marsh Oct 21, 2024, 7:50 PM

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shelf ready, just need to put it on the wall, the holes on the edges are a little too much the edge

formal marsh Oct 22, 2024, 6:35 PM

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shelf in place, need to print the remaining parts for yhe dryboxes, print 2 more pika lanes, and a support to tilt the TR

pale cloak Oct 28, 2024, 3:16 AM

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that looks clean

formal marsh Oct 28, 2024, 10:52 AM

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pale cloak that looks clean

thank you, still a little annoyed that the buffers will be a source of moisture

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thinking of adding something inside to prevent the filament from going to the sides inside the boxes so I can use them as buffer

pale cloak Oct 28, 2024, 11:31 AM

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enclose the buffer system?

formal marsh Oct 28, 2024, 11:44 AM

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pale cloak enclose the buffer system?

ehh didn't really want to do that

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not with a box

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I'm thinking of making the sides acrylic

late veldt Oct 28, 2024, 2:51 PM

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There is that one buffer design that uses acrylic panels

formal marsh Oct 28, 2024, 3:17 PM

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late veldt There is that one buffer design that uses acrylic panels

I want to reuse the pika

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 3:02 AM

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not too bad regarding looks

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 7:22 PM

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Is that a custom CNC toolhead?

proud marsh Nov 1, 2024, 8:30 PM

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late veldt Is that a custom CNC toolhead?

yes, which utilities only alu plates and standoffs. I really like the concept

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 8:46 PM

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Yeah that's pretty neat, plus, it would feel very appropriate with the full metal gantry

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Stylistically

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 8:54 PM

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late veldt Yeah that's pretty neat, plus, it would feel very appropriate with the full meta...

it was one of the inspirations

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it's a mix of VZ, RR, E34M1, and inspired by the full metal gantry

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it supports any hotend, extruder, etc combo as long as it's a Rapido UHF, sherpa micro, and dual 5015s 😅

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 9:12 PM

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lol

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:20 PM

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cutter and sensor are optional

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 9:21 PM

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are you using the full metal gantry? I missed it and only realized it existed today 😅

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:21 PM

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late veldt are you using the full metal gantry? I missed it and only realized it existed to...

got the parts not installed yet

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 9:22 PM

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ah

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:22 PM

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might install the toolhead first then gantry, slowly changing to see if I see improvements or not

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cutter really messed up my IS

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 9:23 PM

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I'm holding off to do a full enclosure + full metal gantry + either this toolhead or the official one upgrade sometime next year

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:23 PM

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this? you mean mine?

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 9:24 PM

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yeah, assuming you'd be open to sharing it eventually?

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:24 PM

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I'll release it sometime but would like to test it first

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:24 PM

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late veldt yeah, assuming you'd be open to sharing it eventually?

it's my plan to release it yes

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 9:25 PM

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yeah, no rush, my wallet would be happy to wait pepeLaugh

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:25 PM

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this whole toolhead adventure only started because I'm designing the smaller merc

late veldt Nov 1, 2024, 9:25 PM

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ah I see

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:26 PM

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wanted a new toolhead anyway so why not

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meanwhile printing reliably

sand ridge Nov 1, 2024, 9:41 PM

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And now precurssor comes to tell you its slow lol

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 9:43 PM

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sand ridge And now precurssor comes to tell you its slow lol

nah

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it's as fast as I need it to be right now

formal marsh Nov 1, 2024, 10:26 PM

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formal marsh not too bad regarding looks

estimating 50g worth of printed parts not considering the sherpa

formal marsh Nov 2, 2024, 5:01 PM

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well crap now I'm thinking how to make it as light as possible and that includes aluminium heat inserts and Ti screws 💸

formal marsh Nov 11, 2024, 7:00 PM

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RIP wallet alu HSI and Ti screws are on the way

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also finally built the roadrunner sensor

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but it's binding

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I'm suspecting the gears are to blame

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hey @plucky plume found you mentioning you were building the roadrunner sensor, any feedback on it

formal marsh Nov 12, 2024, 2:55 PM

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tightened up the lever a little, better movement but a little resistance

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need to test the TR pushing in

plucky plume Nov 12, 2024, 4:42 PM

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formal marsh hey <@238854800635068416> found you mentioning you were building the roadrunner ...

I still need to solder it together 😅

formal marsh Nov 12, 2024, 4:43 PM

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plucky plume I still need to solder it together 😅

heh mine has a little resistance on the gears

plucky plume Nov 12, 2024, 4:43 PM

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How's it working?

formal marsh Nov 12, 2024, 4:46 PM

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plucky plume How's it working?

still need to make it tune properly before I test it

formal marsh Nov 12, 2024, 6:37 PM

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can't really calibrate it properly

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Failed to find well-fitted linear equation, the measured fitness was 0.9868171626589851 (min. 0.999). [1/3]

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the BMG gears are not rolling smoothly, no wonder I had quality issues printing with it

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and I can't really figure out the cause

late veldt Nov 12, 2024, 6:46 PM

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looking for a 0.999 fit seems really tight, maybe there's an option to loosen that requirement?

formal marsh Nov 12, 2024, 6:47 PM

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there is, managed to get it calibrated but

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sometimes it will say it did not detect movement

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retrying now

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and the default calibration speed is too slow to get anything

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might get good results now, next step is check if the TR can properly load it otherwise it's useless

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Most frequent reading: 21.56 with 8 measurement(s), which implies a 'correct' rotation distance of 28.4375000.

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let's hope

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detectable change of 0.060mm this is nice IF IT WORKS

formal marsh Nov 12, 2024, 7:17 PM

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also re-calibrating TR e-steps

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in a 50mm extrusion it was doing 47 😬

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ohh wait belay

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crap

formal marsh Nov 13, 2024, 3:28 PM

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well TR managed to load the filament through, printing today to test it

formal marsh Nov 13, 2024, 6:33 PM

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after managing to tune it, been printing fine with it

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still need to test if it detects properly but TR has no issues loading

formal marsh Dec 4, 2024, 7:11 PM

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finally tried sensorless on X seems to work

formal marsh Dec 6, 2024, 12:44 PM

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for a first printed test looks good

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next is smolzg cad cleanup

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@late veldt here it is, I abandoned the metal cutter for now

deft geode Dec 6, 2024, 1:14 PM

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formal marsh for a first printed test looks good

What toolhead board is that? Just curious.

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Oh I think I found it.

formal marsh Dec 6, 2024, 1:22 PM

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deft geode What toolhead board is that? Just curious.

THR36

deft geode Dec 6, 2024, 1:26 PM

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Can you run a Beacon through it?

formal marsh Dec 6, 2024, 1:26 PM

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deft geode Can you run a Beacon through it?

nope, doesnt have usb hub

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it's can

deft geode Dec 6, 2024, 1:27 PM

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Gotcha. Thanks!

formal marsh Dec 6, 2024, 1:40 PM

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re-tightened the belts, and put a rubber band on the current cutter arm, things look cleaner

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Y is weird no rubber band and now it's better

late veldt Dec 6, 2024, 2:28 PM

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formal marsh for a first printed test looks good

Oooh nice!

pale cloak Dec 6, 2024, 11:00 PM

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is that a built in cutter?

formal marsh Dec 6, 2024, 11:12 PM

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pale cloak is that a built in cutter?

somewhat yes

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toolhead works without it as well

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cutter is just 2 pieces under the extruder, there is also a sensor under the cutter

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and printing a PoC of arm

pale cloak Dec 6, 2024, 11:13 PM

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oooh interesting

formal marsh Dec 6, 2024, 11:26 PM

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so 2 problems

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this section is too thin, and the plan of printing a .2mm wall as support doesnt go well either, need to split in 2 to print or put the blade on a side like the one I have now

formal marsh Dec 7, 2024, 1:28 AM

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new plan

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the arm itself at 10x4mm seems to be strong enough, the weak spot now becomes thicker and the tip of the blade is supported by the pin in the pivot point

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I'm just unsure if that tip is enough or if it breaks the blade

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or I can just move the blade in a little more

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if this fails next step is a proof of concept with an old hacksaw blade, grind whatever teeth remain cut to size, attempt to drill holes including some for a sort of handle, and it becomes 2 alu plates as well

formal marsh Dec 7, 2024, 1:33 PM

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idea for the printed cutter, make 1x4mm pins, piano wire or even paper clip should work, use 2 or 3 around the blade as needed and make a printed sandwich, 2mm pieces with a .2 or .3 recess for the blade on each side

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if the pins fit tight enough they should help keep the arm together along with the pivot point and the screw on the blade hole

formal marsh Jan 1, 2025, 11:07 AM

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finally printing parts for the toolhead

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and for metal gantry just need to finish sanding the plates and paint

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on the XY joiners I'm saving 23g by swapping all steel screws with Ti, and the pins by CF, I'll first install everything with steel give it a test run and then replace to compare

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and because I don't have all the Ti screws

formal marsh Jan 2, 2025, 4:57 PM

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just to keep the shots with the build

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morr Ti screws on the way, last parts printing

formal marsh Jan 3, 2025, 6:00 PM

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had forgotten how might the LW Gantry was

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also 1.43g less with Ti screws not much 😅 but I do feel fancy

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plans for tolhead plates

formal marsh Jan 3, 2025, 7:55 PM

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plans for v2 IF, v1 works

formal marsh Jan 3, 2025, 8:50 PM

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hmm I should double check belt position

formal marsh Jan 4, 2025, 1:16 AM

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hopefully I'll test fit with the metal gantry tomorrow

formal marsh Jan 4, 2025, 10:53 PM

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sooo metal gantry is in

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now align everything

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wondering if I should run E34M1 for a test run

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maybe test fit belt positioning on the new toolhead first, then E34M1 back in until new toolhead plates are done (alu ones)

formal marsh Jan 5, 2025, 4:01 PM

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quick test fit I'm actually surprised things fit so well, bigger belts are on the way

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going back to E34M1 for now

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might cleanup the cad and share soon

formal marsh Jan 5, 2025, 4:45 PM

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hindsight, the sensor needs to be wbove the cutter

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otherwise when I cut the filament stays on the sensor

formal marsh Jan 5, 2025, 5:32 PM

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E34M1 is back, the cutter arm on mine can also be shorter

formal marsh Jan 5, 2025, 8:33 PM

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shaper is still crap but I was expecting it, I still think most issues come from the toolhead (cutter etc) so until new belts are here I'm not going to dig into it

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but I do need to redesign to have the sensor above the cutter

formal marsh Jan 5, 2025, 11:14 PM

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sweet jesus

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come to think of it, the feet I'm using now might not be helping either need to decouple the vibrations from the box too

formal marsh Jan 6, 2025, 9:26 PM

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just so it stays here

formal marsh Jan 6, 2025, 10:28 PM

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also big shout-out to @proud marsh for putting up with my endless rants, sharing and comments, and his feedback as well

formal marsh Jan 7, 2025, 8:05 PM

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now with screws

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time to start printing again

formal marsh Jan 8, 2025, 7:12 PM

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and we have sensor and cutter

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wrenches because I'm lazy to put screws

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one handed is hard the other was holding the phone

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cutter measures 8mm tall, sensor adds another 8 or 9

formal marsh Jan 8, 2025, 10:46 PM

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no choice toolhead doesn't sound that good anymore

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technically you can choose if you want cutter and sensor

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and also made this

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 3:28 PM

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final final final

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cutterless and toolboardless too

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final name "F-Choice"

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 4:21 PM

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weight breakdown

56.00 - printed parts
25.68 - alu plates
24.92 - Ti Screws and Alu HSI
59.47 - dual 5015 blower
07.36 - 2510 fam
15.76 - toolboard
45.28 - hotend (rapido UHF)
20.31 - sherpa micro gears
70.41 - sherpa stepper

Total: 325.19g

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5015s to blame now

raven cliff Jan 10, 2025, 5:13 PM

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formal marsh 5015s to blame now

Cpap

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 5:34 PM

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raven cliff Cpap

I know....

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in time

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meanwhile, steel and brass comparison wirh Ti and Al inserts

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19.57g lighter, not much but

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need to check the weight of the E34M1 I'm running

proud marsh Jan 10, 2025, 5:39 PM

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formal marsh meanwhile, steel and brass comparison wirh Ti and Al inserts

wow, the carbon dowels are so light, I’d say 1 pin might be 5 gr

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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proud marsh wow, the carbon dowels are so light, I’d say 1 pin might be 5 gr

no carbon there yet

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that's toolhead

proud marsh Jan 10, 2025, 5:41 PM

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aaah makes sense

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 5:43 PM

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gantry is next, it's currently screwed in with steel the M5s are already Ti but I'll compare both BOMs as well including dowels

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last Ti FHCS have arrived

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waiting on a saw to cut the plates

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and belts

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the wait is killing me

raven cliff Jan 10, 2025, 5:52 PM

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Carbon rods are flexible though
Not too sure whether that's a good jdea

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 7:30 PM

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raven cliff Carbon rods are flexible though Not too sure whether that's a good jdea

I'll find out

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I believe @coral basin has been running CF pins

coral basin Jan 10, 2025, 7:33 PM

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Yeah iv been running them for well over a year now and they have been great. I checked them a few weeks ago when I switched to the newest printed x joints and they are still fine. No signs of wear or anything.

Have not tried them on the metal gantry yet.

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 7:34 PM

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I'll go directly with metal gantry

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we'll only know if we try

coral basin Jan 10, 2025, 7:36 PM

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I need to find where I stuck the other part that I was cutting off and was going to test the metal gantry with them as well

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 7:47 PM

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coral basin

from 9 to 1.9

coral basin Jan 10, 2025, 8:16 PM

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Yup, about 7g per side saved.

coral basin Jan 10, 2025, 8:46 PM

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raven cliff Cpap

Tbh I dunno how much the Cpap will take off the tool head. You remove the 5015 then add that hose on top the flail around lol. Iv always wondered how much are you actually gaining that way. I guess it makes up for it with ultra cooling.

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 8:49 PM

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it's a good point but I still think it takes weight off

raven cliff Jan 10, 2025, 8:56 PM

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the hose weights barely anything
also it removes vibrations

proud marsh Jan 10, 2025, 10:23 PM

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you also have the tube that helps as strain relief and removes a lot of the flapping around of the various cables

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and you gain something like 6~8x the static pressure 😅

formal marsh Jan 10, 2025, 10:48 PM

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the weight at this point is more of a stupid goal

formal marsh Jan 11, 2025, 1:22 PM

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E34M1 175+132.16+45.28(rapido)+59.47(dual 5015s)
total 411.91

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86g lighter

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already an improvement

formal marsh Jan 11, 2025, 3:28 PM

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XY jointer HW, steel vs Ti+CF common stuff not weighted

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34.19g - steel
13.47g - Ti+CF

so 20.72g lighter

formal marsh Jan 12, 2025, 2:54 PM

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had the urge to put it together even though the toothed idlers will be changed

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need to redesign that endstop piece for the toolhead

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guess that's next while I wait for the belts idlers and remaining tools to attempt cutting my own plates

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might make 2 versions, one solid and one with the weight reducing holes

formal marsh Jan 13, 2025, 3:04 PM

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new belts, idlers and saw to cut the plates are here, also

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release maybe soon

formal marsh Jan 13, 2025, 4:41 PM

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need to write up the BOM

formal marsh Jan 13, 2025, 7:30 PM

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first drill attempt, I rushed what can't be rushed, didn't properly punch the hole centers which was the first mistake

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second is the lack of the correct drill bits for some holes, m3 requires 3.4 for clearance (might do 3.5) M2.5 is 2.9

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and need a 4.2 hole for ptfe

formal marsh Jan 14, 2025, 1:34 AM

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tried to adjust and thread the holes

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rapido only 2 fit s
the others are too misaligned but not too bad, confident I can make a proper one tomorrow

coral basin Jan 14, 2025, 2:17 AM

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Do you drill pilot holes first as well?

formal marsh Jan 14, 2025, 1:08 PM

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coral basin Do you drill pilot holes first as well?

I did not, something I might do on the next one today

formal marsh Jan 14, 2025, 8:20 PM

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drilled bottom plate now, everything at 2.5 then 3 with small hand drilled 1mm starts just to avoid things moving

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taps need to be drilled at 2 and hand drilled to 2.5 the press wiggles a little threads end up a little loose

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other than that looks good, now need to cut the damn curve

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don't

proud marsh Jan 14, 2025, 8:36 PM

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oo jeez I realise I hate gifs, I’m going to delete it

formal marsh Jan 14, 2025, 8:36 PM

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since the saw I got kinda sucks I think I'll run one some holes

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and file/sand it

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or get better blades

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screw it, both

proud marsh Jan 14, 2025, 8:39 PM

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I can’t believe I didn’t know anyone near by that can do a little milling for cheap, I’m looking at 80~90€ to cut my plates, to have 2 or 3 sets, because cutting only one costs more, and than maybe there is some stuff to modify

formal marsh Jan 14, 2025, 8:41 PM

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yeah

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cheapest ends up being xometry etc

formal marsh Jan 16, 2025, 6:03 PM

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first one

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still needs cleanup but

formal marsh Jan 16, 2025, 7:42 PM

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proud marsh Jan 16, 2025, 10:33 PM

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well, not bad at all to be honest!!

formal marsh Jan 16, 2025, 10:39 PM

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ehh it's terrible but if it works it works

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hopefully next one comes out better

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might attempt to cut another one

coral basin Jan 17, 2025, 1:54 AM

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That looks great for doing it by hand.

formal marsh Jan 18, 2025, 2:40 PM

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no way this will work 😭

solar stratus Jan 18, 2025, 2:59 PM

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This is why I might 3d print parts to be laser cut for a test assembly, but then I just order the parts since the services are fairly cheap.

formal marsh Jan 18, 2025, 3:05 PM

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solar stratus This is why I might 3d print parts to be laser cut for a test assembly, but then...

yep printed test worked out fine, but it's more of a pride thing at this point

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if I factor in time as a cost it's already more expensive than ordering from somewhere

coral basin Jan 18, 2025, 6:03 PM

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@formal marsh when I have fabricated mounts for things that needed holes to line up, like alternator brackets and stuff. I would start by drilling a single hole, bolting the two plates together, and drilling all the other holes at the same time through both plates at once. After that you can start to shape the part. At least then, the important parts line up good.

formal marsh Jan 18, 2025, 7:07 PM

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coral basin <@293050635186733056> when I have fabricated mounts for things that needed holes...

yeah that will be my next approach

formal marsh Jan 18, 2025, 7:26 PM

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but still in this case the rapido mounting holes are not aligned

coral basin Jan 18, 2025, 7:29 PM

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@formal marsh it's definitely doable, and if you are determined to do it by hand with some more tinkering I bet you'll get it right.

formal marsh Jan 18, 2025, 7:30 PM

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coral basin <@293050635186733056> it's definitely doable, and if you are determined to do it...

determined is not the best word 😛 more obsessed

proud marsh Jan 19, 2025, 12:24 AM

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formal marsh no way this will work 😭

so, which is the correct plate that aligns with the 3d printed part? or are both somewhat off?

formal marsh Jan 19, 2025, 12:25 AM

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proud marsh so, which is the correct plate that aligns with the 3d printed part? or are both...

both somewhat off, being the top one the worst

proud marsh Jan 19, 2025, 12:28 AM

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I wonder if you could attach a scalpel or just a pen or something like that to the toolhead, to sign the shape of the plate directly on the alu part to cut… I mean, hypothetically

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because it’s clear that you really need super human precision to even glue the paper on the part, let alone punching holes or cut

formal marsh Jan 19, 2025, 12:37 AM

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proud marsh because it’s clear that you really need super human precision to even glue the p...

paper on part is easy, next plan is something I actually tested on this last plate, I cut around the lightweight holes and after removing the paper it's all there, so I can cross mark the holes as well, then the issue is punching them, tempted to test a brad point bit to punch them even if that means ruining it for this, heck might even drill a pilot hole with a small one

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at this point I'm willing to try anything it's a learning experience

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last resort well just order them laser cut

formal marsh Jan 19, 2025, 6:49 PM

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scribed everything on the plate, brad point drills smallest I got is 3mm so no good for pilot holes, but the tips are very good to manually poke in the right spot, then properly punch them, measuring with calipers things look good enough

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next up actually drill some pilot holes and measure AGAIN

formal marsh Jan 20, 2025, 7:17 PM

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WIP, that damn bowden one ran away but I think I can save it, 4 remaining but looking good so far

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let's hope

formal marsh Jan 20, 2025, 8:09 PM

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others look good but that bowden one is a mess, still deviated, luckily it's not too critical and I can widen it if I need

formal marsh Jan 21, 2025, 4:44 PM

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so, rapido attaches without the front screw that one is too off 😭
the worst problem being that my M3 tap broke doing the last tap on the bottom piece, meaning the top one is still untapped

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standoffs were drilled together so they're looking good but didn't assemble shit

formal marsh Jan 21, 2025, 5:21 PM

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guess who's an idiot did a test tap with the broken remnants and thought, this will work

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proceeded to do 4 more and none is good the first one was pure luck

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and now I have an otherwise good plate fucked

coral basin Jan 21, 2025, 6:10 PM

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@formal marsh it's a learning process! You'll get it! Each time you try, and each learning experience you have will get you closer to.your outcome! You get better every attempt.

formal marsh Jan 23, 2025, 6:50 PM

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new taps are here, I'll cut the round on the bottom one test fit the whole build, if it fits fine, drill another top one

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new thing for me, 2 taps for M3 apparently a rough one and a finishing one

solar stratus Jan 23, 2025, 7:12 PM

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I've said it before, but I prefer spiral flute taps for hand tapping aluminum. They are typically used in cnc machines

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They create a long chip that gets pushed up like a drill bit chip

formal marsh Jan 23, 2025, 8:18 PM

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solar stratus I've said it before, but I prefer spiral flute taps for hand tapping aluminum. T...

I know and the one I broke was a spiral flute, couldn't find an M3 alone just full cheap sets, I have done taps with this kind years ago, takes more patience but it still works so I'll give these a go this time

formal marsh Jan 25, 2025, 6:35 PM

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Finally pre-assembled the whole thing

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2 of the taps are completely messed up, one of the rapido mounting screws is off and the bowden is misaligned, other than that everything seems to fit, next up I'll put it on the rail to test the belting properly

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if the belts turn out good, another top plate will be drilled

formal marsh Jan 25, 2025, 7:04 PM

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tired pike Jan 28, 2025, 1:59 PM

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Looks good man!

pale cloak Feb 8, 2025, 2:03 PM

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i'm so far behind 😭

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this looks great. i kept thinking the cutter was huge, but i realized the rest of the toolhead is just smol

formal marsh Feb 9, 2025, 12:45 PM

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pale cloak this looks great. i kept thinking the cutter was huge, but i realized the rest o...

it is indeed smol

formal marsh Feb 26, 2025, 4:59 PM

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wiring still needs to be adjusted, Ti screws are not in, and the plates don't have the cutouts to reduce weight but as a test this will work

formal marsh Feb 26, 2025, 5:42 PM

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didn't check belts yet but damn X looks clean compared to previous stuff

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Y looks like shit

weak trout Feb 26, 2025, 6:03 PM

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formal marsh Y looks like shit

I think its your cables on top of your toolhead

formal marsh Feb 26, 2025, 6:30 PM

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weak trout I think its your cables on top of your toolhead

I'm suspecting the same need to clean those up now

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but damn it's looking fine and I need it printing like yesterday

formal marsh Mar 2, 2025, 6:26 PM

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small update

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this is Y on carto adxl

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this is with the THR

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x barely had difference

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theory is that carto mount allows for some wiggle

formal marsh Mar 3, 2025, 7:51 PM

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meanwhile Z is a little inconsistent because I have oldhams but removed the top bearings, I'll raise the bed with higher spacers on the arms and later redesign for smaller support bearings, also one minitank is dying time to get the PCCF spares back in

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other than that printing great, so after I dispatch the giant orders I got I'll make the final cuts on the plates to make them lighter

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and see what improves

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oh and the 2510 I got is stupid weak hotend is also passively cooling on the alu plate

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wait.... did I lubricate the rails

formal marsh Mar 3, 2025, 10:26 PM

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ok XY were lubed, since I was swapping the minitanks decided to take out the tank rails

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dryer than a desert

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relubed and they're in now need to cut 3 M4s down to 25mm

formal marsh Mar 4, 2025, 3:48 PM

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back to printing, no issues so far

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@coral basin thanks for the support man, I got it printing

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still need to make the plates lighter to compare

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I think I'm ready to prepare an initial release

coral basin Mar 4, 2025, 4:44 PM

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Good job dude!!!! Happy for ya man!

formal marsh Mar 4, 2025, 5:01 PM

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not done yet need to cut the holes but the parts fit and the thing prints

gleaming whale Mar 5, 2025, 8:58 AM

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What version carto do you have? If it’s got the lis2d instead of adxl you will get different results.

formal marsh Mar 5, 2025, 12:32 PM

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gleaming whale What version carto do you have? If it’s got the lis2d instead of adxl you will g...

ADXL

formal marsh Mar 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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had to take out the rapido yesterday due to a clog on the heatbreak, turns out not so hard with this toolhead, sure need to remove the extruder and fan but no big deal

white crane Apr 9, 2025, 8:48 PM

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hmm the printer in the older posts looks familiar to me

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i wonder why lol

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i should start my own build log here

formal marsh Apr 13, 2025, 4:01 PM

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@white crane why would that be 😅

formal marsh Apr 16, 2025, 10:46 AM

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@sick bridge somewhere here I think

sick bridge Apr 16, 2025, 11:18 AM

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completely offtopic but is there no way to scroll immediatly to the top in discord mobile? Forum threads are impossible to read without 2h of scrolling

formal marsh Apr 16, 2025, 11:18 AM

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nope

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@sick bridge toolhead starts here #1076124931517055026 message

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it will have a post as soon as it gets released

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waiting on @ornate flame to finish the new plates (no pressure)

white crane Apr 18, 2025, 9:42 AM

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same with you @formal marsh waiting on everything (no pressure lol)
did what you told me and created a build log #1362724839638696006

formal marsh Dec 4, 2025, 5:09 PM

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slowly coming back to this, realised a few days ago I could just make an entire lid for my dryboxes, needs more filament but could fix space issues
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ext6ns8

first I'll test a roller concept with MR63 bearings

#Flow - Born from an E5Pro