👑wasteland-king

[gentle needle]

https://c.tenor.com/qCDKSJpnUBIAAAAM/long-sigh-dan-levy.gif

[cinder patrol]

I understand. It’s how I felt when I was in charge of WK in a smaller state. Stress stress stress lol.

[covert maple]

@fading prairie I had to pin that. Simplified gold thank you 👌🏼

[fading prairie]

Thank you! I was tempted to reformat… but that works 🤣

[cinder patrol]

It’s the extraness gene 😂 I also have it but lack the artistic ability

[fading prairie]

Right?! Maybe one day. I’ll chart all the partial things I have 🤣

[livid gazelle]

All blue all the time around here

[cinder patrol]

We have always been active, just not blue 😂

[livid gazelle]

True.

I'm just glad my state doesn't go up against any of you guys

[white totem]

What state so I can request it from the devs? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[livid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[cinder patrol]

Cardrin. But goes in #🔱wasteland-conquest ;)

[errant crow]

Correct. That was my mistake.

[scarlet solstice]

Is there an HQ level requirement to occupy/attack a tower or the hub?

[quartz flame]

Nope

[indigo flume]

will fast comeback speed buff travel with me to other state if i migrate out ?

[devout nymph]

You cannot change states during Zenith, after that you can still restore your troops. If you are still registered for the Nuka, you can imigrate at 12 the following day. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

[cinder patrol]

It will not. You need to use it entirely first.

[buoyant mauve]

GG me. Getting crush by ichi again. This guy will be #1 rank worldwide soon. An ass one

[cinder patrol]

Fortunately, there is no worldwide ranking but top player in game is king and he’s over 6b might hahaha

[buoyant mauve]

Well this dude in 2 months manage to get 4.5b. 1b alone in just couple hours earlier from break loose training..

[fresh prairie]

👀

[iron hawk]

This event still confuses me. Do you get kill points if you tile attack someone? I know you don’t get death points

Also people in my battle division chat were asking to get hit to fill their infirmaries. So fill w t1s then get your high tier troops in deep healing for no rss cost?

[gaunt berry]

Exactly, they are right

Just need to kill enemies from foreign states

[iron hawk]

Ok and you only want deaths going to hubs/turrets for fast comeback right?

[gaunt berry]

Yep :)

[iron hawk]

Is it better to send t1s or your highest tier to their death

[still kernel]

First time I’ve seen someone actively try to lose their hub. Check out state 210. Nobody ever occupied.

[gaunt berry]

The more might you lose the more you will get for fast comeback

so just kill all troops you don't like in your HQ 😅

[iron hawk]

Hahah ok thanks appreciate the info

[iron hawk]

That’s happening in ours rn. There’s a weird nap this round so alliances can get occupancy points

[ashen ember]

If I’m not mistaken, if you are in hub and get hit - you don’t get the troops loss for the 300%. I might be wrong.

But towers - all good.

[gaunt berry]

only if hit by turrets

[iron hawk]

I’ll probably never be in the hub but still good to know lol

[ashen ember]

Thanx Mel

[gaunt berry]

Turret hits are the worst. Those killed troops won't go even to infirmaries. Just perma death🥲 so in case you have to sit in hub when turrets are occupied by another states just send t1s, so it won't be at least expensive for you

[iron hawk]

That makes me never want to be in the hub lol. A state rn is letting ppl into their hub for occupancy points I think I’ll stay out of it. Do turret kills count for kill points (last question I promise 🙃)

[still kernel]

We’re not napping anyone. We took the other hub for a second and we’ll go back after our hub is secure.

We don’t want to win their state but we want a playground.

[gaunt berry]

What do you mean? :D if you are in turret and you are shooting the hub then you won't get kill points for that

[iron hawk]

Ya ya that’s what i meant thank you again 🙂

[gaunt berry]

you're welcome☺️

[polar valve]

So... Quick question. We have our hub and we took another state's hub. Our home hub should shield, right? For the entirety of the occupation or is there a timer on the shield?

[gaunt berry]

you have shield while you are occupying another hub :)

if you leave them, shield will be gone

[polar valve]

That's what I thought. But it isn't shielded... And we're still sitting in both hubs

[cinder patrol]

Are you in 3 hubs…?

[polar valve]

In 2

[cinder patrol]

Because you’ll lose the shield

[cinder patrol]

Send me ss in DMs

[polar valve]

Gotcha, thanks!

[gaunt berry]

I think it's kind of bug, we had the same situation in my state too. it will be reported to devs

[polar valve]

Thanks! Azzie is helping me with this too

[twin basin]

If you take over another state, can the governor make someone In there aide still so they can get titles or would they lose out on titles

[gaunt berry]

Nope, if state's hub is occupied by another state, they will only get fast comeback boost after WK. Titles and other state boosts won't be available

[twin basin]

Okay thank you

[fading prairie]

…and you only get their taxed rss as coffers and their boxes

[gaunt berry]

oh I forgot about sweet boxes :D

[fading prairie]

I gotchu. 🤣

[still kernel]

Winning lots of states has a downside. Look at state 62. That’s my nightmare. My state has a “don’t win other states” policy.

[livid gazelle]

There's an impromptu training session going on in our event

[cedar steeple]

62 is fun to take 😛

Happy wasteland all, hope you get the Nap you want or take the state you want!

[livid gazelle]

I would like a nice in between like the last one. Keep our state but have a small fight to keep it.

[cinder patrol]

As long as I get to avoid you I’m good 😂

[livid gazelle]

I feel that way about a lot of you guys

[restive hinge]

The whole take another state your state shields is stupid. Not having any issues personally, like my state’s fine, but logically if you’re taking another state you should be able to protect your own as well. It proves nothing to just send all your strong players to another state to take over, when you have to coordinate keeping two states that shows real skill. Two thumbs way down for people who think they get bragging rights for taking over another state when they only need to take one and they’re protected, proves nothing.

[livid gazelle]

You only get a bubble on your state, so if they take theirs back you lose that protection. You still have to play smart

[fading prairie]

But that’s also a tactical advantage.. if your strongest players are capable of holding another states hub… you are protecting your own since it will be under a bubble. It proves to be two birds one stone.

You still have to coordinate to make sure someone is around to sweep the turrets to prevent them from attacking your hub.

[round fossil]

Incorrect. Just place T1 in your hub. No tactics at all

[white totem]

But it also does not bubble towers. Still have to have people keeping your turrets because even with a bubble they kill your hub troops

[restive hinge]

You can hold a hub with your towers attacking, that’s still no skill

[white totem]

And I’ve been in wars where it’s all out war and there are 4 states fighting over one hub

[fading prairie]

Lol. Getting people to place t1s can sometimes be a battle of its own…and it still claims your hub.

[round fossil]

No. It proves nothing. All you need is to be able to protect 1 state. No real skill

Doesn’t matter. If they choose T11 or T11. That’s on them. There is no skill. Just have to be the strongest state 😂

[restive hinge]

You’re protecting that one, which is default protecting yours. You could have 1 t1 in yours makes no difference. You don’t need skill or strength even

Lol, just my opinion! I’m glad it sparked a debate!

[round fossil]

It’s true. No debate 😂

[restive hinge]

I’ve been playing for quite some time now and I don’t remember it being like this a long time ago. I remember having to have actual unity and planning to take another state

[white totem]

Not even the strongest state…. Just better skills sometimes. We have beaten states much stronger before. Knowing when to reset their hubs and how to lure them into other states….

[fading prairie]

But the endgame is to be able to keep your hub and if you can get another one, then why not? 😂 no matter how you choose to get it.

[round fossil]

I think the point is. Why not make it an actual challenge

[restive hinge]

That’s kind of the point, the endgame is to keep your hub and if you can do that then great, taking another hub should be like getting an A, not a C in an adjacent class and having it count

[round fossil]

Right now, it’s hold another state. You hold 2. No challenge. You can do it with 2 strong players

[white totem]

There have been times we have held 3 hubs at the same time but haven’t been able to hold 4 yet

[restive hinge]

It’s like being average just in another hub. Taking two or more hubs should make you exceptional, instead you just look like a shmuck

At least that’s how it used to be. You were badass if you took a hub

You kept your own and held another down that actually meant something, now not so much

[white totem]

Wait til you get to the higher tiers… it’s definitely a challenge…. Especially when you’re against 3 strong states

[restive hinge]

A challenge yeah, but not impressive as holding your own down and doing it is

[round fossil]

It’s no different. Strongest single player still wins. There’s a lots of gap between strong players. Even ones that look maxed

Been in diamond/platinum grade for awhile. Taking a state is just holding one hub and being able to clear turrets in that state even 😂

[steep pawn]

cant do anything against that, but as much as a whale he is, hes gonna go against peeps like WN/Hop and others and wont have the support(unless he buys for his alliance lol) that is a fk ton of money dropped in 2months tho

[restive hinge]

People do that so that they can go down a tier and play “weaker” states. I played against them before and they tried the same thing.

[atomic mural]

I don't like 335.

[cinder patrol]

That’s not really true at all. Given that we are in this situation right now. It takes more than 2 strong players.

[round fossil]

You’re right. It only takes 1 strong maxed out player to hold 2 states lol. I have saw it many times over the last 10 months

[cinder patrol]

Okay

[white totem]

Ive also seen that having 1 strong player doesn’t help because most likely so does your opponent

Many times in the past 2 years of playing

[ashen ember]

Agree

[tawny epoch]

Hello do any Big Time game nerds have any written documents regarding wasteland King as far as strategies when you're facing a bigger opponent or best way to secure your hub etc would love to be able to share with my state if possible.

[ashen ember]

Try to make a nap for the hub straight away - then have fun with towers.

[vale latch]

So killed troops come back after WK is over or are they gone for good? Thanks

[ashen ember]

Gone

Check infirmary, deep healing and alliance infirmary.

[fading prairie]

Anything affected by Turret attacks are also permanently dead.

[tawny epoch]

I get the basic gist of the event obviously I was hoping for like more in-depth things like what's it best to fill towers with like troops or mixed troops etc just something more in depth

If someone had it written out of course

Not every state has billion plus might players

[livid gazelle]

We usually do a mixed batch in our hub - fighters/riders then stack turrets with a strong lead and as many troops as possible.

[cinder patrol]

We also mix

Stats prioritized

If the others keep hitting you then just send T1s, give them nothing.

[lapis cosmos]

I'm just a pawn and sit when I make it 👀 😂

Actually finally saw the whole wasteland having 4 states very weird

[ashen ember]

Ohhh. Well it’s up to each state. Do you get all the big guys in one alliance?

[tawny epoch]

So hub mix then towers focused?

[tawny epoch]

Yes. We have a dedicated alliance for that

[vale latch]

Thanks for the answers

[ashen ember]

We do sometimes a mix of troops, sometimes just mono troops.

Depends on who’s leading

[rotund wave]

Hi. My alliance where I am r5, is not allowing me to assign Governor after us winning. What am I missing? Does the previous r5 who was in place when we started the event have to do it?

[cinder patrol]

You’re R5 of the winning alliance? I’ve never switched R5s before assigning governor so I’m not sure :/

[unkempt ibex]

that’s what happens when you build your whole state around one whale player 👀

[steep pawn]

you get king?

[unkempt ibex]

if you were r5 when the hub was secured you should be able to appoint a governor. if it’s been longer than 2 hours since your hub was secured, you as r5 will have been automatically appointed governor

[unkempt ibex]

no whale players in my state 😂

but king ain’t the only whale in his either

[rotund wave]

Figured it out. Wasn't where I thought it would be

[unkempt ibex]

yeah it’s in a weird spot on the home screen, i figured it would have been in the hub itself

which, ya know, would make sense

[rotund wave]

Thank you

[unkempt ibex]

but the devs aren’t fans of making sense lol

[rotund wave]

Exactly!!!! 🤣

[steep pawn]

no 62 got WN, and yeah, that alliance is stacked- I just drool thinking about the number of alliance boxes

[unkempt ibex]

oh yeah when i said “that’s what you get for building a state around one whale player” i meant 62 getting their hub taken a bunch cuz they built their state around baka and him wanting to fight with alliances like w^n every fortnight lol

[cinder patrol]

The thing is many of them are done growing for now so not so many boxes except maybe during events with special stuff.

[unkempt ibex]

king had been buying 4+ $99 boxes in every feast he’s hosted that i made it into so far

[cinder patrol]

Yeah. Matt too.

[unkempt ibex]

maybe he’s buying to hoard in anticipation of 10* releases

[cinder patrol]

It’s 2 boxes

2x $49.99 each

[tawny epoch]

Many

That's wild lol

Cringe at the thought of spending $400 on this game and one sitting

[unkempt ibex]

yeah but the people who are doing that can afford it comfortably obviously

[atomic mural]

There's a special place in hell for states that make WK last the full 24 hours.

[cinder patrol]

Yeah we basically had that. I have so many colorful words to use but all I will say is that they are now the state I hate most.

[river cape]

We’ve had several like that, and I agree with you wholeheartedly!
I do know some states will purposely reset their hub if they have a really good NAP in place so the littles can get some points and rewards as well. They keep the bigs as captains then let t9 and lower fill in.

[sage spear]

I miss 24 hour long Wasteland King. I got zero casualties yesterday because it was over too fast and now my Ace is screwed up.

[atomic mural]

I don't mind extending beyond the 8 hours, gives lots of players the chance to fill rewards. But the full 24. That's not a Check box I ever like ticking.

[livid gazelle]

I'm glad our longest so far has only been 14 hours...

[atomic mural]

That blows 😬

[sage spear]

It does. They were supposed to make a playground for an extra 16 hours, but took the hub in 8 instead. So I got home to 3 secured states and no points 🤦‍♂️

[atomic mural]

I almost came to blows (instate) pre wk when I said I didn't want double nap. Got my wish in the worst way 😬 😂

[sage spear]

Yeah, my old state was definitely sometimes on the receiving end of karma for dragging out WK for all of those other states that wanted it over quickly.
But those were honestly just as fun🤣

[river cape]

Extending it by a couple of hours is fine, but there are some that expect you to roll over and beg for them to leave your hub alone. If you don’t, they do everything they can to make your life a living **** for the full 24 hours.

[sage spear]

It is a scheduled 24 hour event. Nothing wrong with giving everyone a chance for playing during that for 24 hours.
Not everyone is able to make it work to get their points in the first 8 hours.

[livid gazelle]

Not every state has the defense to cover that long of an event though.i don't get to play like the others do because I'm a turret lead, and we just don't have enough leads available. It makes it really boring if it drags on for a while

[river cape]

I understand that but, when you offer to let someone take your spot and no one takes it after multiple spaced offers, it’s time to end it.

[cinder patrol]

We just faced a state that for no earthly reason continued to sit in our turrets long after getting their points. I have about 100+ reports of turret deaths.

And we had to stay in it because they kept it for 7 hours so we couldn’t leave it.

[river cape]

Could those not<@&742286202601996299> at lease leave and send fresh troops?

[cinder patrol]

We were sending T1s and we don’t have an endless supply. People did send more. But by the time we got to that point it was 16-18 hours in. And we weren’t in the original alliance that had been holding the hub. So we had no previous hours to work with. Plus people went home. Went to bed. Etc.

[covert magnet]

@cinder patrol that sounds like a painful WK 👀

[cinder patrol]

IT WAS AND I AM TIRED AND GRUMPY

[covert magnet]

Nice fast comeback boost?

[cinder patrol]

No because my troops were killed by effing turrets

[covert magnet]

😤 😡 😠

[cinder patrol]

Captain got it worse. She had t12s in there for awhile.

[covert magnet]

That’s because she’s amazing!! @cinder patrol

[river cape]

Which is totally unfair! We choose to stay in the hub after the turrets start firing, we should get fast comeback for that too! Going to put that in suggestions as an edit to my already too long reply, lol.

[cinder patrol]

It’s part of the game. Something has gotta be real and make it high stakes.

[river cape]

I know. So are tile hits, purge days, and wrong length shields, but we don’t get positive changes if we don’t ask for them, right?

[cinder patrol]

I don’t mind that turrets don’t work in fast comeback. I knew that going in. We all did. I don’t need the change. We knew the rules.

I don’t need every rule to change because I don’t like it. It’s part of the game. Work with it or around it.

[atomic mural]

Sounds like a tough day at the office, we have a mutual friend who'd be happy to visit them for 30 days 😂

[cinder patrol]

Man I wish. Would rather he just visit my state for 30 days though 😂

[sage spear]

The point of turrets hits not counting is to encourage players to fight harder to keep what they want. Don’t want your deaths to be worth nothing by sitting in the hub taking fire? You can fight to win the turrets and at least get a troop boost in return.
All part of figuring out priorities. Was keeping your hub worth the lost troops? That is for each state and player to decide.
Like most aspects of the game, there isnt a one size fits all strategy or style.

[still kernel]

I enjoy it. I keep watch to see if they’re about to hit the 8 hrs and go reset it. They don’t have to be in hub/towers. If they don’t want to keep going they can just abandon everything.

[frozen scaffold]

So likely a dumb random question but its Sunday and I am drawing a blank 🤣

Fast comeback boost: resets at the next WK or whatever the cooldown timer says? 😂

[fresh prairie]

Cooldown

[frozen scaffold]

I thought so but I just needed some reassurance 😊

I am being told it resets at the next WK?

Which tbh, I have always activated right after hub is secured, so its never been delayed so there has never been a need to worry about the cooldown 🤣

[fresh prairie]

It’s a 14 day cooldown. So if you used it this would. Of course it will be the same time

[frozen scaffold]

Your saying no matter when it is used then, it will reset at the next WK event no matter the length of time left on the cooldown?

[fresh prairie]

No I’m saying the 14 day cooldown would expire if you use it the same time every wk. because…the timer would be up…

Go by the timer. Lol.

[frozen scaffold]

Okay. Sorry. The above message was a bit confusing. Appreciate the response.

[fresh prairie]

Yeah I was confused by it too 😂😂

[quartz flame]

Dont listen to @covert magnet

[unkempt ibex]

i got a lot less casualties than i was anticipating cuz i organised a stricter NAP with the state with a HQ40 looking for a fight, and then the other state said we had a “misunderstanding” during negotiations (even though i confirmed twice with them the stipulations before posting to my alliance) and the person who took gov renegotiated the deal to appease them even though i stipulated certain things to allow us to be able to get kills as well as casualties

im so sick of NAPs where people with 3k-4k atk of their specific troop type, and a turret full of 2mil t10s and 11s only want to be hit by cars 😒

[cinder patrol]

I never do

[livid gazelle]

I never understood the car thing. I only ask if they're sending bigger to warn me first. I can take an average march with a full turret. Send me a full march of t10s

[unkempt ibex]

I usually do more damage to myself sending a full march of t9s to a turret so I really don’t get it either

Taking a hard hit when I attack won’t stop me from sending a 2nd or 3rd march to clear the turret for the kills if I can 😂

[livid gazelle]

I think I startled a big shooter main two wastelands ago. Sent two decent sized rallies at my turret and we ate both with no return trip. Luckily no 40s came out to play that day

[cinder patrol]

It’s just being cautious

[river cape]

This wasteland we had it that we could send half marches 10+ without heroes :).

[livid gazelle]

I'm always willing to cut deals like that

[tawny epoch]

So state 335 purposely loses so that they can have easy opponents doubt anything can be done about something like that

[still kernel]

210 as well. But they apparently do these cycles where they try to win other states to get the rewards, then try to lose to other states so they don’t get into a higher bracket. Our approach was to just avoid their wide open hub like the plague. The other state took it instead.

[tawny epoch]

When they do that you just want to completely avoid their hub if anything only attack turrets?

[river cape]

You still get the points for kills and wounded if attacking the hub, so yes.

[cinder patrol]

If anything is in the hub

[still kernel]

We just went to the other state. We didn’t want to risk anybody going in hub even for a second. We relaxed once the other state spent a couple hours in the hub.

[fresh prairie]

24/7 naps here 😰

[cinder patrol]

Oh really 😂

[fresh prairie]

For the most part. Atleast after a certain situation 😂😂

[cinder patrol]

I was gonna say. That’s a surprise to me! 😂

[fresh prairie]

Now we don’t hit, then try and nap

[cinder patrol]

Probably for the best haha

[white totem]

Please take to #🔱wasteland-conquest This is the WK channel

[fringe ivy]

O conquest thxs.sry

[white totem]

No problem. Thank you for being understanding

[still kernel]

We almost never have a complete NAP. Too boring. We usually pick one state to fight (sometimes both). We did complete NAPs for a while and people started getting pretty antsy. Now a core group of us spend the first 10-15 minutes of WK evaluating who to fight. We do not take states though. We just want to enjoy.

[livid gazelle]

Sounds like the group we had 2 wasteland ago

[quiet glade]

Quick question on how points work for WK. if your state is in Platinum and you only hold your hub do you get points toward going up a level?

[cinder patrol]

No

[quiet glade]

Ty

[cinder patrol]

There’s a good image in the pinned messages too that can show you each level.

[livid gazelle]

You should remove the screenshot

Posting conversations goes against the rules

[cinder patrol]

This is against #📚sanctuary-rules

[tiny flare]

what does those taxes pay for when the state is governed by people in the state? When a state is conquered by another state the winning state gets the coffers from the states taxes. This comes from transport tax and raid tax I believe. What happens to the state that lost? Why is losing these taxes while not being governed a detriment?

[patent coral]

You pay the taxes wether you win or lose. The only difference is if you win your hub the taxes basically disappear into thin air. When you lose your hub the taxes go in to the conquering states coffers to be used by them as they see fit. Example they can give out RSS to a player that had great troop losses to help them rebuild.

[tiny flare]

Why pay taxes if they just disappear? But okay this doesn't hurt the losing state either way then. Thank you.

[cinder patrol]

“In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.”

[tiny flare]

But rl taxes goes to the street lights and paving the roads... PNS taxes are for shit and giggles... 🤣

At least give me some more level 5 rss or something. lol

[sage spear]

Most real life taxes also vanish into thin air long before they become roads or street lights 🤷‍♂️

[tiny flare]

🤣 - yeah thats government for ya - but we have zombies in PnS... no zombs IRL... we can at least evolve a bit.

[sage spear]

Um, I disagree. Look around you. Zombies exist everywhere 🤣🤣

[tiny flare]

🤣

[torn forge]

Is this where I post my stats to sign up for Wasteland?

[hallow crown]

Nope, you're probably looking for your state discord, this is PNS official discord

[torn forge]

Thanks. Sorry for wrong post

[fading prairie]

They updated the look of the boxes 😂

[dire cargo]

Is there another way besides losing your hub to go down a level. Example: Currently at platinum only due to deals made with states while at gold. Could not defeat gold and definitely will not be able to defeat platinum level states.

[shut blade]

Does LOSS COMEBACK get applied automatically after WK or does gov need to activate?

[livid gazelle]

If you win, gov has to activate. If you lose its automatic

[atomic mural]

You don't need to defeat, maintaining is enough, do deals with your opposition to ensure your players get the rewards like occupation. You will meet 1 or 2 states that don't play ball but most are fair.

[dire cargo]

Rephrase of ?
Due to us negotiating with other states that were billions more in might, instead of losing the state to them the software has decided we are strong enough to be at the platinum level. We can not play at gold level nor anything above it. Is there a way to get the state to a level equivalent to our might without losing the hub which drops u a level each time?

[ashen ember]

From my knowledge, to go down a level, u need to loose your hub.

[cinder patrol]

Yep. As pandora said, you need to lose. The game is basically filtering everyone into platinum. It’s impossible to avoid without constant losing.

You can check the pins, @fading prairie made a simple adjustment to the table to understand how it works at each level.

[inner tangle]

How does one explain WLK to some one who has never participated

[fresh prairie]

Protect the hub. By sending marches. To the hub and / or turrets. And see what happens, either going to fight or sit

[patent coral]

Lots of time to get to know the rest of the state lol

[inner tangle]

Thanks guys

[white totem]

It’s like protecting your fort during dead rising except statewide …. And instead of zombies it’s marches from other states…

[serene kestrel]

Hey where’s the sheet to sign up for defense

[livid gazelle]

You'll have to talk to your state discord. This is the game discord. Ask in state chat in game

[serene kestrel]

Ok thanks

[worthy echo]

We do not even get street lights on the roads that have houses on them. Only the Highway and the main roads. Roads with houses if they want a street light, they have to pay the bill for the light

[tiny flare]

Oh damn! I don't want to live on your street, I don't like the dark and I may forget to pay the light bill. 😬 😂

[swift olive]

I've been hearing so much about the state decree and using the 300% boost to rebuild my focused troop type. Are there any detailed guide on how to do that? Someone sent me video before but it's in Japanese without subtitle 😫

[cinder patrol]

After WK ends, night is calculated based on how much you lost. You get to train 120% of your lost might. That’s how much you can re-train. Then you just train your troops.

[swift olive]

Are there any specific criteria for the might loss? Some says attacking tower occupied by another alliance of the same state doesn't count, is that true?

[cinder patrol]

If losses come from turret attacks against the hub (it firing), those won’t be included in the 120% of lost might. But it still counts if the attack on a turret comes from the same state.

[atomic mural]

Turret attack I.e if you are occupying hub and the turret firing kills your troops.

[swift olive]

Ok, great, have a clearer picture now. Got confused with the same state different alliance thing.

[swift olive]

Btw pls correct me if I'm wrong, are the following steps correct to take advantage of the quick recovery?

1. fill your infirmary with T1 which are cheap to heal
2. fill up the rest of the deep healing and alliance infirmary with anything
3. kill off your other units that is no longer useful
4. when the govenor uses the 300% state decree, train your focused units

Assuming there's enough resources and speed up to take advantage of the might loss

[high dragon]

Casualties go into infirmy then deep healing then alliance infirmy.

Just do 1 to fill infirmy and then suicide your high tier non focused troop into turrets. When your first wave is reaching the turrets, activate first aid skill to reduce amount of troops that are really gone, send your subsequent waves. The survivors will go to deep healing which is free healing if you wait.

(If you have endless resource and speedup, you probably just suicide from the start, heal them from infirmy and repeat.) The point of placing t1 in infirmy is so that you can heal them after you are done and have space in infirmy which speeds up deep healing potion rate. At the same time, deep healing is free. You can choose not to fill up infirmy with t1, and use instant heal instead, but you might not clear your deep healing units by the next wasteland.

[swift olive]

Thanks!! So healed might are not consider might gain so all kind of wound are taken into consideration for the 120% eh?

[high dragon]

Yeap, all kind of wounds involving fighting on turrets and zenith hub. Loss from turrets firing at hub are not considered as stated in the state decree. Loss from tile hits are not considered.

[swift olive]

👍 👍 thanks for your help!

[broken pagoda]

How long does a shield in a hub stay?

[fading prairie]

If you’ve reclaimed your hub, 30mins.

If you’ve taken another hub, your state’s hub will be under a bubble as long as you hold the other hub.

[broken pagoda]

So if our hub is taken, our opponent’s hub Will stay shielded unless we reclaim our hub?

[fading prairie]

Yes or if they leave your hub.

[broken pagoda]

Got it. Thanks!

[shut blade]

If an out of state alliance takes our states hub, can they still activate boosts for our state?

[sage spear]

No. The fast comeback will turn on automatically. All other boosts and titles are not available.

[unkempt ibex]

State 387 are not to be trusted. They broke NAP with half an hour to go and initiated a super rally on our hub, claiming that we broke the NAP first, but directing me to ask a player (who had made no moves against the state until they had initiated their rally) how our state had broken it. I asked them to send screenshots on discord and explain their side of it and they stopped responding

[blazing ferry]

If the governor accidentally gave the role away can he get it back???

[sage spear]

Nope. It says it cannot be undone.

[mint carbon]

There’s a special place for people who drag this out for 24 hours just because. Like a real special one. There’s fire. And no WiFi. And all u can eat is raw artichokes. And listen to 80s commercial jingles

[lavish vessel]

@blazing ferry. The can reset roles once every 24 hours

[patent coral]

governor can not be changed until the next WK

[lavish vessel]

He said role so im assuming titles not the actual governorship

Im sorry i read it wrong lol

[patent coral]

you may be correct

[lavish vessel]

Okay to be clear you can not undo gov. But can redo titles every 24. Hours lol that cover both

[patent coral]

yes, excellent

[swift olive]

So what will happen if my state get conquered? Will they tax all the resources I gather? Or only the one during transport to other alliances members?

[cinder patrol]

The taxes from sanctuary attacks and transports will go to the other state

[swift olive]

AHH ok so it doesn't really affect Farmville players like me then, good to know. Thanks

[cinder patrol]

Nope

[atomic mural]

I'd like to see WK changed to be honest. Most states don't want to test themselves anymore. 4 turrets rallied yesterday, all pulled. Take the hit wimps.

[lapis cosmos]

Hey wack a mole is fun 🤣

[atomic mural]

March times were supposed to be changed for the event. 30 minutes marches so they can make a bit more money from blue speed ups is miserable. Also they only give 25% speed up, another joke. It's just become a horrible event to be involved in.

[lapis cosmos]

March times did change not crazily but I did notice a slight change doesn't matter anyways I hoard a bunch of march speedups for when I do participate just remember not everyone can take the same amount of troop losses like you can so they play it smartly

[atomic mural]

It's 30% and you get to replace them so it combines with ace. No taking any casualties at all is not the smart way to play the event.

[lapis cosmos]

Ehhh personally I find it funny I like to play yes but I don't like severe troop damage. I eventually would just switch to t1 if was a crazy long events but im f2p so I work hard for my stuff no need taking more damage than need be

[atomic mural]

They literally took zero casualties. None, nada.

So yeah, dip out when you've taken enough damage but to take none at all is just bizarre to me.

[lost lintel]

If one's state has been taken over in WK, is the only change for residents that the fees for transporting goods no longer go to our state's treasury but to the invaders'? Not seeing anything on this in pinned messages for this channel and searches turning up nothing. Surely that's not the only consequence for losing?

[gaunt berry]

Those fees go nowhere when your hub is not taken over anyway. If it's taken then all fees from plundering rss from attacking HQs and transportation go to another state. And you also lose state buffs

[lost lintel]

I thought it would be much worse. It seems like a very expensive event (speedups, heals, replacing dead troops) for such low rewards of winning and small cost of losing, but ok! Thanks for clarification

[gaunt berry]

Yeah it can be expensive but usually states just make NAP agreements and you can sit safe in towers.
Some states just send t1s since they are cheapest and don't give any points to enemies. It's like if you have nap they won't touch you. If they don't agree then you will lose only t1s

[heady lynx]

Does fast comeback training boost apply to might lost from sanctuary hits in the mud?

[cinder patrol]

Unfortunately no. Only attacks while in a/or against a turret or attacks from being hit while in the hub (although not if the attacks came from turret fire), or if you’re attacking the hub

[fresh prairie]

My wk confused me. One opposing state had many different alliances in the turrets attacking the hub. That they also had secure lol

[patent coral]

Lol

[river cape]

I don’t mind taking the hit, and I know how and when to use First Aid talent.
We have been known to employ the T1 strategy though. Not much else you can do when one of the opposing states is playing catch and release with turrets, and constantly resetting the hub, no matter which tier troops are in there.
Well, I guess we could go and try to take their hub, thus gaining the shield as long as another hub isn’t in our hub when we do it.

[atomic mural]

Yeah don't get me wrong, emptying turrets and placing t1s is a fine strategy 14 hours in but taking no hits at all. State should be switched off by devs 😂

[river cape]

Oh, we’ve deployed that strategy too. They kept taking them, no matter the tier, so we left them empty. The sucky part is that turret fire on the hub (losing might to it) doesn’t get factored into fast comeback boost so you RELLY gotta want to keep your hub to put up with that nonsense.

[atomic mural]

Had that last time out from 335. Emptied everything including hub so they got nothing.

[river cape]

You just have to have a great strategist to figure these things out in the fly, who doesn’t mind 1,000 questions from someone who’s new and wanting to learn, and unintentionally comes across as argumentative or as questioning authority

[atomic mural]

Or humouring people who only want to secure the hub and any player that wants to maximise the event (like myself) is selfish.

[river cape]

Snort.
I don’t always participate though. I’m saving for hq upgrade, which would better help the state, so didn’t want to spend those resources on healing. It’s happened before. Took me forever to get to 30 because@of it!

[atomic mural]

It's the gas, until it's the wood, so much wood 😭

[river cape]

I have run out of wood and food so much trying to train and heal after WK! Almost makes me want to@put up an alliance farm or wood mill to compensate! Lol

[unborn torrent]

Do you have a farm account? This tends to help out alot, especially when you are upgrading so quickly. Also reach out to your alliance members. Maybe they will be kind enough to provide a few rss..If nothing else works there is always the hunt 😉

[quartz flame]

Mil2 stole all my wood...

[lapis cosmos]

I have yet to become a victim of mil 2😂

[quartz flame]

save your wood

[cinder patrol]

Mil 2 wasn’t that bad for me with my gear. After I got halfway through the levels, it started taking wood…but not as bad as it could have been

[lapis cosmos]

I'm in alliance wood mill currently 😂

[river cape]

Thought mil 2 was blueprints 😕

[quartz flame]

It's is that too

[lyric warren]

A quick question: our state is about to go through its first WK. How do I find out what our bracket is? Do we get matched up with only other states who are having their first WK? Or will we be matched up against states who have already been through one WK?

[cinder patrol]

Check the WK event in the upcoming tab of the events center. You will only face states in the starter level. You can tap the ! in the top right. But it will be next weekend.

[quartz flame]

The gov of 164 is so cool

I wanna be like her one day

[lyric warren]

My page is different and does not have those tabs

[cinder patrol]

Ehhhh

[quartz flame]

[cinder patrol]

#2

[covert magnet]

Lies allll lies! The gov of 164 is horrible!

[cinder patrol]

How do you just always know where to lurk

[cinder patrol]

Last one was better

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-so-mean-to-me-crying-baby-gif-13809730

[covert magnet]

I gotta keep an eye on this server to make sure you and @quartz flame are on your best behaviors!

[quartz flame]

@gray crystal I'm being bullied

[covert magnet]

@gray crystal it’s true!

[quartz flame]

Kick and random Tp time

[gray crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-nothing-juan-pedilla-brent-roam-tremors4-nothing-gif-16677834

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/id-get-up-but-my-back-still-sore-knife-gif-18670274

[gray crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/crazycraig-who-even-are-you-who-are-you-gif-5397646

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-sad-girl-crying-sobbing-gif-15982581

[gray crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-you-know-i-love-you-young-thug-love-you-more-song-saturday-night-live-i-love-you-girl-gif-23508887

[cinder patrol]

Be nice to me

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/davonne-rogers-the-challenge-shocked-final-reckoning-shocked-face-gif-20699745

[quartz flame]

Guess i'm posting in #🧑players-seeking-alliances tonight...

[cinder patrol]

I mean we got space

[craggy skiff]

Its possible to be up against 3 other states? Havent seen that before ^^

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/beach-time-vacation-im-leaving-baby-suitcase-gif-17277572

[cinder patrol]

Yes. When the number of states is not evenly divisible by 3. You can also end up with just 1 other opponent, too.

[craggy skiff]

ah cool, we coulda used an extra state. we went up against 2 dead states in diamond with 1 remaining alliance and another state with like 2-3 alliances left 😂

[cinder patrol]

I forgot we just dropped out of Diamond back to platinum 😂

Wait, we did?

[craggy skiff]

so 2 WK ago

[cinder patrol]

Ah

[quartz flame]

i already forgot the the last WK

[cinder patrol]

presses depose governor button

[quartz flame]

im about to had out some titles

[uneven cape]

it was fun seeing moon wreck us, shes a beast

[cinder patrol]

I’ll take fool. I need the food.

You never even said anything nice about the previous governor

[quartz flame]

Ex and Ship got titles

[covert magnet]

I feel abused

[gray crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-an-injustice-not-fair-equality-injustice-netflix-gif-17555861

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-glover-good-gif-9530757

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-not-be-bullied-david-max-greenfield-the-glass-castle-stand-my-ground-gif-18324753

[cinder patrol]

@gray crystal has blocked me because I said he smells like a wet barn stall

[gray crystal]

I never said that!

I said you smell like a trash can full of milk and sushi on a hot day

theres a BIG difference.

[cinder patrol]

I said it

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-skipper-can-you-read-gif-22646390

[gray crystal]

lies

[quartz flame]

tough talk for a guy that still smells like cat pee on old fish tacos...

[cinder patrol]

Oh I removed the wet part the second time I posted it 😂

[gray crystal]

hahahahahahaahahahhaahahahahahahhaa I hate you

[cinder patrol]

[gray crystal]

you smell like a pile of used diapers

[cinder patrol]

That is no way to speak to your governor

[quartz flame]

right back to bulling me....

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-in-wonderland-queen-of-hearts-off-with-their-heads-angry-rage-gif-4626067

[quartz flame]

Should he get the Envious title for VC?

[cinder patrol]

[gray crystal]

Not during VC

[cinder patrol]

Mwahahaha

[gray crystal]

I will fight you.

[cinder patrol]

I would love to see you try

Rider boy

[quartz flame]

[gray crystal]

mind your bidness

[quartz flame]

10m shooter dont care

[cinder patrol]

He says that because he knows I’m right 😂

[gray crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/judging-you-cringe-rolling-eyes-annoyed-fed-up-gif-22917796

[gray crystal]

Is that literally all you have is just shooters?

[quartz flame]

he left the knife in my back, can you get it out for me

[gray crystal]

@covert magnet get in here! we have a job for your fighters!

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/comfort-gif-24403874

[covert magnet]

👀

[cinder patrol]

I don’t think even ship could take down 10m shooters lol

[gray crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/one-could-argue-none-of-us-do-shea-brennan-sam-elliot-1883-no-one-is-worthy-gif-24553345

[quartz flame]

Not when I get Moon to RF me

[gray crystal]

oh get out!

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/you-smell-like-a-goat-margaret-dutton-faith-hill-1813-you-stink-gif-24554163

[gray crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-will-ferrell-you-smell-like-beef-and-cheese-beef-cheese-gif-10767638

[cinder patrol]

Burritos??

[quartz flame]

yall gonna gang up on me, not in a good way

[gray crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/youll-love-you-youll-see-neighbours-youre-gonna-like-it-youre-gonna-love-it-wait-for-it-youre-gonna-love-it-gif-20976780

[cinder patrol]

Next WK you should just make ship and ex’s life a nightmare

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/gina-linetti-chelsea-peretti-b99-brooklyn-nine-nine-brooklyn99-gif-15379131

[lyric warren]

So since states in their first and second WK are both starters, we could face states that have already gone through one WK? Within the bracket, is it random selection for matching?

[cinder patrol]

Yes it’s possible. Matching is based on your grade and your trophies.

[lyric warren]

But it's our first WK so we are in the starter grade and have no trophies. In the starter grade, do we match randomly?

[cinder patrol]

You’re matched based on trophies. So you’ll likely face states who also have no trophies

[lyric warren]

Ok. Thanks.

[hidden nimbus]

Quick question, if we take some other states hub along with keeping our safe, can we also use the other state's boxes(governor's award) to allocate? Or is it just we will recieve tax from that state?

[cinder patrol]

You just get the taxes. They won’t get any boxes, you won’t have access to anything of theirs directly.

[hidden nimbus]

Okay! Thanks;

[cinder patrol]

Apparently you do get the boxes. I’ve never noticed, I guess. My bad!

[quartz flame]

You get set per state. 1 to 4 depending on your WK

I guess you could get 0

[cinder patrol]

So you’re saying we should have conquered 3 states

@fast slate I blame you for this oversight

[fast slate]

I knew this

Noob

[cinder patrol]

Yes but I’m saying I blame you for us not taking 3 states

Don’t noob me!

[quartz flame]

Isn't there a strict no plop or ship policy here?

[quartz flame]

Cool name

[fast slate]

I thought mods were… nice🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[livid gazelle]

What gave you that idea?

[quartz flame]

[cinder patrol]

How long have you known both of us? And you still thought that?

[lapis cosmos]

That sounds like too much work😂

[covert maple]

Nah only me. And I’m not that nice either 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

[fading prairie]

Hey! I’m nice. 😭….if given snacks.

[white cosmos]

Question...do alliance techs applies to you if you are within alliance territory during ww or it applies to you for being in that alliance? I'm talking about the military tech

[fresh prairie]

Just being in the alliance

[white cosmos]

Thank you

[frigid comet]

Hey guys! Does anyone know the exact count of bases it takes to fill in the mud?

[cinder patrol]

You’ll never get that exact number anyway because there will always be stuff in the way. Lairs. Zombies. Tiles. Plus it’s dependent on the method. We leave a tile in between so that it requires fewer people. Some people don’t.

[queen holly]

How many occupation and casualty points can you get during wasteland?

[fresh prairie]

Occupational it’s like 2.4m

[quartz flame]

No cap on casualties

[river cape]

There’s a chart somewhere. We leave space between sanctuaries for tiles and zombies to spawn.
This issue though is that not everyone has swift gather or can kill the higher level lairs, so getting the grey area totally clear is nearly impossible.
Last WK I hit a lair, then had the ruddy thing respawn one square forward!

[neon cape]

Our first wasteland king in a few days.
When are we alerted about which state we are up against? And is there a way to find out earlier who we are paired with?

[fresh prairie]

The minute it starts.

[neon cape]

Really...? Oh thanks

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. No advantage ahead of time

[neon cape]

Tyvm appreciate the info

[minor grotto]

Can anyone please explain why the Devs keep adding events that discourage full state participation in WK? New event doesn’t allow you to claim prizes if you leave your alliance during it. It’s frustrating that they are putting in restrictions to try to prevent alliances from working together to help their state. It’s svs not mega alliance vs mega alliance. SMH 🤦‍♂️

@broken oak @fading prairie @quartz flame @covert maple @ashen ember

[broken oak]

Yes

?

We understand where the frustration is coming from we do

[sage spear]

I assure you we have said these comments exactly to our captains already. We are working to clarify any possible ways for people to fully participate as some of the information seems contradictory.
I am 100% behind you that this is not a great launch to new events, especially when they overlap with key features of the game play.

[fading prairie]

Like Chain and Hill, we all understand the frustration and the lack of clarity an consideration during this event.

We are still waiting on a reply and eager to get things confirmed. 😭

[covert maple]

Hey beautiful - as @sage spear has mentioned; we are in agreement there. We’ve bombed them with questions about it

[minor grotto]

Appreciate it

[stable rampart]

It seems like there are lots of "official answers" floating around.. could there please be a bulletin note pushed CLEARLY stating what will happen if a player participated and then went to another alliance for up to the full 24 hours of wasteland clash (sometimes it's only 9, sometimes only 3 hours.. but let's cater for worst case scenario) the ambiguity is frustrating

These events are critical for the state's and alliances of the game

[sage atlas]

Hey MoDs

Your doing a fanfackingtastic job just thought yall should no that

[stable rampart]

Yes you are and you shouldn't have to deal with this

[patent coral]

Kato pinned the official response from the devs in the alliance conquest channel.

[sage spear]

There is a lot of information floating around about some of what happens. But the situation isnt the same for everyone so there isnt an absolute answer for every scenario. The information pinned on this channel (and the others) should give you most of the references you need.
And if you still have a specific question, ask away here

[stable rampart]

There's nothing pinned about the cross over with alliance conquest. By my calculations the start of the wasteland king event is in the middle of the alliance conquest competition stage: if a player has completed their attacks in their alliance and then hops over to the states wasteland alliance can they still receive rewards when they go back to their normal alliance and do their points still count?

[patent coral]

No

[sage spear]

There isnt anything because we don’t know anything 🤣
It is brand new.

[stable rampart]

So they've already done their attack

They don't need to compete again

[patent coral]

That I don't know

Doubt that gets settled until it happens

[stable rampart]

It would be great to know for all the states who are about to have to defend their hubs

[sage spear]

Yeah, I’m still not convinced. The rules say you can still claim your rewards so I’m trying to get a fuller answer.

[sage spear]

Yes, we have made this explicitely clear to our captains.

[stable rampart]

Exactly. It would be amazing if you could (by the way I love your work - sorry if I sound combative)

[patent coral]

You are actually much more pleasant than some of the others.

[stable rampart]

I think it helps when you have other people yelling up at you 😂

[sterile pivot]

Can they not figure out a way to run statewide events without players having to leave their alliance to do it?

[stable rampart]

Yeah.. that would be great as well.. 😂

[vale barn]

Quick question, will the commanders flying from foreign state land in the mud only? And if we block the mud they cannot fly in?

[sage spear]

They can land anywhere. But they can only attack things in the mud (turrets, hub, unshielded hqs in mud, rss tiles).
If they are in the green, they cannot be attacked. But if they are unshielded in the mud, they can be attacked.

[vale barn]

Thank you

[stable rampart]

Wanted to say thank you to the people who made this happen ♡

[cinder patrol]

The thing is…the way the event is “meant” to be run in the devs’ mind, nobody leaves their alliance because only one alliance is defending the hub during SvS. They think this is still the way we all do it, apparently. In many ways, they’re building the game to their ideal still, instead of the way it’s actually played.

[compact sonnet]

Hi Mods, thanks for everything. I’m sure this has been asked before, but I’ll give it a shot. Can we ask Devs to allow us to combine alliances during State vs State. Having to leave your alliance to join another to protect the State is idiotic. Just let us decide at the beginning if it will be all state joining together or if another alliance wants to challenge then they can not join or something like that. Hope I was clear enough. LoL

[quartz flame]

It's the games intention to have the state also fighting for the hub. They don't really make any game play effecting rules when it comes to that type of thing.

[compact sonnet]

Imagine if the entire state could defend the hub without joining any single alliance? That would be pretty Awesome!

[cinder patrol]

It would. However we learned the devs still gear events toward some wild west situation like in the early days of a state and the first zenith war, and so the mechanic for fighting between alliances is central to that. I suggested it multiple times early on but yeah...I learned haha

[compact sonnet]

Thanks. Have a Great Weekend!

[livid gazelle]

Happy WK y'all. Good luck!

[dire basalt]

Q: why do some people want to have their troops killed? Do they get points?

[livid gazelle]

Yes

[high dragon]

Fastcomeback grant 300% speedup boost which saves up a lot of speedup. You only get 120% of might loss from attacking turrets/hub, that's why they want to get troops killed. There's also casualty points which grants various rewards such as speed up. Training troops goes towards ace points.

[dire basalt]

Oh and that includes troops killed on tiles as well?

[cunning compass]

Are there any other states facing more than the normal 2 other states this week?

[high dragon]

Casualty points include troops killed on tiles, but fast comeback only applies to those turrets/hub hit. Some fill their infirmy with low tier troops, some just want casualty points.

[dire basalt]

Do you get your troops back after?

And thanks for answering my questions, trying to learn more about the game.

[livid gazelle]

No. This time killed troops die. Also make sure you heal your infirmary as you go

Once infirmary fills troops will go to deep heal then alliance infirmary. Once you hit the cap on both the rest just die

[dire basalt]

Thank you!

[vestal rivet]

Does Miraculous survival / First Aid have any effect on Wasteland King event SVS casualties (turret/hub)?

[livid gazelle]

It does but not with turret hits against the hub I think. I'm not in the hub often enough to know

[cinder patrol]

It happens when the number of states in a grade can’t be divided evenly by 3. We faced 3 other states last time.

For a total of 4

[cunning compass]

Thank you. I have reached out to so many and nobody else has ever faced this situation.

[cinder patrol]

You’re welcome. It’s not super common, but it happens. There have been times where it was just 2 states, as well.

[midnight tapir]

Could someone please see if my understanding of the WK 300% training speed boost is correct?

1. Up until my infirmary capacity is reached, 30 percent of casualties from WK will be considered dead. Thus, 300% boost will only apply to that 30 percent.

2. Casualties that exceed the infirmary cap will be sent to the deep healing center. But from this point on, every casualty is considered dead (even though 70% can still be healed at the DHC.), so 300% boost will apply to all of them.

Also, how does the 300% training speed boost work? Let's say, if it takes 20 hours to train my T9 rider troops at max., dose it mean it will take only 5 hours to train them? Thank you.

[vestal rivet]

If you click on your hero for Commander Info screen There is Boosts Info button on the bottom.
Under Fortif. Boosts - there is training speed %.
With 300% boost that number gets added 300, for me 27 hour training (1 day 3 hours) usually has gone down to about 17 hours.

[midnight tapir]

Got it. 👍

[sage spear]

Yes, everything sent to Deep Healing counts as Dead for casualties in WK.

[tawny schooner]

for zenith buff, does it only count the might from the dead troops or does it count he ones in the infirmary too?

[gaunt berry]

when your troops die attacking the towers, 70% goes to infirmaries and 30% dies, so that second part will be counted for buff

When they go to deep healing or Alliance infirmary they will be counted fully for buff

[sage spear]

And the 30% is less for most people. With miraculous survival, mine is closer to 22% dead

[livid gazelle]

Any idea how to figure out the miraculous survival?

[heady pawn]

Quick WK question... 1 Alliance is defending the hub. If other alliances from the state march on it, does the state get Kills points for it or not for killing the players from their own state.

[sage spear]

No kill points for in state turret hits.

[gaunt berry]

I just fill infirmary and enjoy with 100%😂

[gaunt berry]

I think it works like this. Imagine you sent 10000 troops to hub, so 3000 of them will die. And MS helps to reduce that 3000 according to its value. If you have it 35%, then it's going to be 3000-35%

This is how I understood it

[livid gazelle]

Mine is at 40% so now I wonder how bad troop loss would be without it...

I usually end up in deep heal.

[rotund niche]

Question, does it matter how many troops you send to defend a Hub? Like do extra troops earn occupation points faster?

[cinder patrol]

You gain occupation points faster the more troops you have

[rotund niche]

Thank you! 🙂

[livid gazelle]

Is that a D20 mace?

[rotund niche]

It’s a +5 Mace of DMing 😛

[livid gazelle]

Ah, way to keep the murder hobos in line

[rotund niche]

All crits all day lol.

[echo warren]

Help
Why would another state need to have our hub of our state to activate their shield on their hub

[fresh prairie]

Prevents you from attacking their hub.

[quartz flame]

Let's them stay safe while prolonging the event for your state. Gives them more time to gather points

[sharp niche]

Hi guys,

Quick question: when turrets bomb you, does it count as lost troops?

[quartz flame]

They dont count toward the event/ fast comeback

[sharp niche]

why is that?

[quartz flame]

How they designed the game... dieing on tiles also doesn't count

But kills on tiles do

[next basin]

Can someone explain how the "tax" for conquered states works? Everything I've read is confusing and not precise on the actual mechanics.

[vestal rivet]

because devs hate us! 😝

a lot of people where pissed off about turrety hits when it was first implemented yet they kept it

[fading prairie]

If you’ve conquered a state, all of the rss taxed from the state goes to your coffers.

If they’ve taken over your state… same deal.

So that ~30% tax that gets deducted whenever you transfer or raid… goes to the state coffers.

[vestal rivet]

stop taking over other states & then this 30% tax goes nowhere - so nothin to worry about then

[peak nimbus]

hello. I have a question

So if you accidently give someone gov, can you give it to someone else within the 2 hour time frame. I know it was done in my other state a while back

[vestal rivet]

nope

[peak nimbus]

don't ask 😆

[quartz flame]

If they're gov that it till next time

[peak nimbus]

I know it was doable a while back. must have changed then

well that sucks lol

a farm is gov 🤣

[vestal rivet]

it does get automatically assigned to leader i think if its not assigned

[peak nimbus]

we hit the wrong one lol

[atomic mural]

Can a conquered state conquer the state that conquered it?

[vestal rivet]

People are weird - farm for governor?

[quartz flame]

You can try CS, but I wouldn't count on it

[quartz flame]

No

They have a shield

[vestal rivet]

Nope, conquering state gets a hub bubble

[quartz flame]

UNLESS

they hit the 3rd hub

[atomic mural]

Unless they occupy another state

[quartz flame]

Their shield drops

[atomic mural]

Interesting, so technically 2 states could trade rss.

[quartz flame]

Yes

Technically

[vestal rivet]

wait but what happens if state 1 takes over state 2 who take over state 3, who will have what then?

[quartz flame]

3 way hub swap?

I don't wanna test this

[vestal rivet]

well state 3 is left out i thinnk

[quartz flame]

They have to sit in the corner and watch

[vestal rivet]

because state 1 should be bubbled

but what would happen to state 2?

[peak nimbus]

isn't that called an orgiiii

[atomic mural]

But if the original conquerer leaves state 3s hub does the bubble not re-engage and state 2 gets kicked?

[vestal rivet]

always so many question about 3 way action, yet so little practice

[atomic mural]

Is that even possible?

[quartz flame]

No, I don't think so

[vestal rivet]

anywhoo, we secured our hub & reset 1 weaker state for funsies
and NAP with stronger state

[quartz flame]

Maybe, I've seen glitch reports of shields not working. That may be the only way

[atomic mural]

Ya it's probably not. 2 hubs secured would mean 3rd is twiddling thumbs

[quartz flame]

There is also the 4th state sometimes

[vestal rivet]

well, all those WK battles really come down to how strong your strongest player is

[atomic mural]

It is possible tho, 1 would occupy 2 and 3.
2 would then occupy 1
3 would then occupy 2.

[vestal rivet]

rest of us like me are just the cannon fodder 😬

[atomic mural]

Once enough time has elapsed a hub could be left empty until the end and the state with longest occupation would win that state.

[vestal rivet]

yes

[atomic mural]

Titles are muck anyway. Rss is much better.

[vestal rivet]

oooh yeah, i need to smooch our guvernesss now

[atomic mural]

You would only need to nap once in a few rotations to get governor to hand out the goodies

[vestal rivet]

i need some title to be special

well you want to win governorship for your state everytime

you miss out a bit if you dont

[atomic mural]

Only a small bit.

[next basin]

Does the conquering state/alliance stay in the conquered state?

[vestal rivet]

nope

conquering state only gets benefits

think about it as getting alimony every day

conquering state gets paychecks in rss from conquered state

[next basin]

Thank you. I'm fairly new to the game and our state was taken by players 3 times our size.

[vestal rivet]

dont worry princess, next time you will get easier opponents

and ask for NAP in battle chat

[next basin]

We asked, but some players had jumped at the first second and attacked before we could get it worked out and the bigger state said no

[vestal rivet]

losing WK isnt too bad - you only miss a few state boosts, so if you are new you will not feel it almost at all

reg training boost is nice to have, but you still get the infamous 300% fast comeback training boost if you lose

[atomic mural]

The fast comeback is the bees knees

[vestal rivet]

EVERYBODY GETS IT!

win lose or draw

[next basin]

Thank you for all of this info. I greatly appreciate the help!

[vestal rivet]

yeah you can tell everyone not to worry, losing WK happens to almost everyone sometimes and it isnt too bad

[lavish vessel]

Somebody explain the point system to me if we take someone else's hub do we get 500 points or 800 point

[fading prairie]

Check the most current pin for a simplified explanation.

[lavish vessel]

Okay thanks

[fading prairie]

Hopefully it simplifies it 🙂

[lavish vessel]

It does

[noble monolith]

Aloha 🌺
Could someone PLEASE explain this event to me because... I'm STILL learning this game and JUST got attacked 2X and am NOT happy 😒
Mahalo in advance 💯🤙🏽

[fresh prairie]

You need to protect and secure your “hub” for 8 consecutive hours. STAY out of the mud. Hq and tiles are subject to being hit while in the MUD

[noble monolith]

@fresh prairie MAHALO for explaining... I appreciate it 💯🌺

[unkempt ibex]

An alliance member is down over 18million might after WK and his retraining cap is only 66k. He was not in a hub taking hits from turret fire. He was either hitting turrets himself or being hit while occupying or reinforcing a turret. I can confirm he is 2nd place on our casualties leaderboard (which only counts the losses from turret/hub hits). Does anyone know what the hell could have happened?

I’ve already told him to take screenshots of his all his battlelogs including the in-game timestamps for them, the casualties leaderboard to prove his number of points, and his fast comeback retraining cap, and send everything to CS, but how big of a chance of adequate reimbursement does he have?

@cinder patrol @sage spear any ideas?

[cinder patrol]

I honestly can’t say how good of a chance bc you know CS…but with all those screenshots I would say he SHOULD get it back. If they refuse, you can pass it on to us and we will try to see what we can do.

@unkempt ibex

[rugged idol]

If we take another states hub but not our own what happens

[unkempt ibex]

great thanks hun

[fading prairie]

You get the number of trophies added/deducted depending on your league.

See pinned msgs

[cinder patrol]

Make sure the logs show all his casualties. Get the detailed versions ss too

[white totem]

Do you get the boxes?

[fading prairie]

No. The only thing you’ll get if your state hub is taken is the fast comeback boost

[cinder patrol]

If you got the boxes you’d have no way to distribute them regardless.

[rugged idol]

So we only get points and and fast comeback.correct?

[frank pasture]

But if a state occupied another state for 8 hours but did NOT occupy its own state wouldn’t it theoretically be the governor of the foreign state?

Even if it lost its state HUB?

[rugged idol]

No they said neither state will have a govt @frank pasture

[cinder patrol]

There is no governor of a foreign state. You simply do not get a governor if you’re taken over.

[rugged idol]

So basically we need to go take out hub is what y’all are saying🤣😂

[cinder patrol]

Yes

You will get access to nothing without your own hub

[cinder patrol]

Leaderboards are by language

There is no conspiracy theory

[limpid wharf]

Who is this guy

[fading prairie]

I’ve already answered this from your post in another channel while redirecting you here.

[limpid wharf]

This is a mod

[cinder patrol]

Ichi is on the Japanese language board

He is not a mod

None of the mods are over 1b lmao

[limpid wharf]

But that is the global list

[cinder patrol]

Global list is by language

[fading prairie]

It’s says “English”

[cinder patrol]

Change your language, you’ll see a different board

[limpid wharf]

Then how is he in our league

[fading prairie]

Cause your state is in the same league. But not based on language leaderboards.

[cinder patrol]

Because leagues are not language based?

[limpid wharf]

He had 9 billion and took over three states by himself

[cinder patrol]

Yep

[dense ridge]

So this IChi players rank is not showing on global might but had more might than the #1 on global might! The player battled and took over 3 states practically by alone! This seems like an unfair advantage! Is this a developer account?

[cinder patrol]

Read up

[fading prairie]

No need to repost 🤣

[hexed talon]

9billion….hello friend 😉

[cinder patrol]

LEADERBOARDS ARE LANGUAGE BASED

Your league is irrelevant to your language

[fading prairie]

🤣🤣🤣

[cinder patrol]

The end

[fading prairie]

Nice recap!

[cinder patrol]

Thanks! 😂

[dense ridge]

Wow such rude retorts since I didn’t realize someone else posted before me so courteous…. 🙄

[cinder patrol]

It’s not rude but someone literally just posted the same exact message

Y’all are convinced there is some kind of conspiracy

[limpid wharf]

Dude took three states by him self and nobody knew him until today

[cinder patrol]

False. I knew ichi. Lots of people did.

[fading prairie]

Um… people know about him. 🤣 he’s #1 might global right now.

[cinder patrol]

Most people know who ichi is

[hexed talon]

Think of it this way next wasteland probably won’t be so difficult.

[fading prairie]

He’s just not listed on the English leaderboards.

[fading prairie]

Ummm 🤣 if you’re still in the same league, there’s still a chance you’d get matched up.

[hexed talon]

That would suck 😂😂🤣

[limpid wharf]

If it’s. Global then why is there an English and Japanese League

[lapis cosmos]

It's not different leagues😂

You just can only see your language i learned that lesson the hard way

[fading prairie]

Yes it would. But the possibility is still there 😥

[limpid wharf]

Well maybe that should be changed because if I knew he was the number one player I wouldn’t have wasted my time with this pointless event

[hexed talon]

Well I hope my state doesn’t go up against the one we had today again

[fading prairie]

Leagues:
Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Legend.

Languages:
English, Japanese, Chinese, French, etc.

….are two different lists.

Each language has their own leaderboard. Leagues are depending on number of trophies acquired during Wasteland King.

[fading prairie]

Um… wouldn’t you have looked at his might + gear + troops + how easily it he could take your hub/turrets and think… maybe we don’t have a shot at this?

[unkempt ibex]

a heap of people know ichi

[lapis cosmos]

Don't jinx yourself lol

[unkempt ibex]

he’s been topping the break loose and ace commander leaderboards for weeks

[hexed talon]

😂😂

[unkempt ibex]

he is a massive spender but he is no developer

[fading prairie]

What league are you in? How’d your WK turnout?

[limpid wharf]

It would not have done me anygood because I went off the scout report and seen T12 and thought maybe the state could win together but

I didn’t attack the man I went after the turret

And why would I go to a different state when he went to everyone

[unkempt ibex]

you saw t12s singlehandedly take your hub, didn’t check his gear, and still thought you could win?

[hexed talon]

I have know idea what league

[craggy skiff]

how did u not know him until today? hes been spending a ton of money on events for months and usually ranks #1 in most events. I've know about him for months, hes not a developer, just a big spender and people have kept tabs on him for a long time.

[lapis cosmos]

Ichi has been such a huge topic lately due to his rapid growth. It shocks me some people still dont know about him lol

[fading prairie]

Go to go your WK window, see # trophies then compare it to the list under Grade Rules

[hexed talon]

Platinum

[dense ridge]

No thats not what he’s saying. He saying went after areas the man was not directly at and the man still showed up and took over everything. So IChi showing up was holding off other people just for him to take one state at a time and it not matter. It was a waste.

[limpid wharf]

So got it I got hit by a douche who dumped a ton of money into a game

[unkempt ibex]

Yeah. We have all been in your shoes before. Shit happens.

Recover from it, and learn from it

[fading prairie]

The number listed is currently based on previous WK results. Then add/subtract whatever your results were for this WK and you’ll know which league you will be in next WK

[craggy skiff]

yep attacking someone in a war game = douche, you got him bud

[unkempt ibex]

FarmVille is my favourite war game

[limpid wharf]

The match maker seems to be adjusted

[lapis cosmos]

I've been hit by either moonlight requiem or zoidberg and I was sitting there in awe like what happened 😂 sometimes you get in a league you can't win

[craggy skiff]

I think people are just so used to having naps every WK

[fading prairie]

You win some. You lose some. Learn from it.

But there’s no need to be salty and start calling other people who beat your fairly names.

[unkempt ibex]

our NAP was perfect this WK, i negotiated it myself

—no scouting or attacks on the hub
— no rally attacks on turrets unless turret captain agrees to it first
— scouting and solo attacks on turrets are okay, but you must leave immediately if you take control
— everything on the blacktop is fair game

[hexed talon]

We had a NAP for like 2 minutes and the other state broke it and went all out on us

[unkempt ibex]

perfection. no march size limits or troop tier caps

best of all no “trucks only” 😍😍😍

[craggy skiff]

nice our state only napped with S75 outta respect for the andrew, the other state though, 🔥 🤣

[fading prairie]

Match is still depending on league levels.

If they want to, they can claim hubs to get promoted to a higher league…cause that’s the only way to get the trophies and change leagues. Unfortunately, if you’re matched with them and they want to move up, they will claim to it hub.

[unkempt ibex]

last wk a state we went up against broke the NAP with half an hour left to secure the hub, then lied and said we had broken it first, accusing a player of scouting their hub - which she only did after i did myself (after they initiated a super rally on our hub)

[dense ridge]

In the same state as Quack Bang and we haven’t had a nap yet… at least not since I have been playing.

[lapis cosmos]

We've had t1s wastelands before it was fun lol

[fading prairie]

Oh noes! Sorry about that. So if you lost you’re hub, you will be deducted 200 trophies.

[unkempt ibex]

i killed 285k of my own troops on top of the full infirm and 120k in deep healing just to hit turrets freely with my full march at full strength. heaven 🥰

[dense ridge]

Thanks for explaining the leagues per language and process for moving up.

[unkempt ibex]

You haven’t organised one and haven’t had one agreed to?

[craggy skiff]

got it. so he should understand sometimes you get a bad match up. Most states wont be able to handle ichi

[unkempt ibex]

A lot of younger states want to take the hub of another state when they’re first doing the wk event. the novelty of taking another state quickly wears thin when you’re a state full of players with 2-300 mil might going up against players with 2-3 billion might

[lapis cosmos]

Yeppers

[hexed talon]

Not sure anyone can handle ichi…pack it up and go about your business and get some sleep

[craggy skiff]

NO1 and W^N might say different ^^

[fading prairie]

No worries. Glad that I can help.
For next WK, try to organize your state to see if you can setup better defenses, have back up plans and limitations in place to know what your state can / can’t take.

If someone can solo your hub/turret with your best setup… it usually means they can do it again 😥. I’m not saying to give up right away. But know or at least discuss what your state limitations are.

[limpid wharf]

I mean I’m sure he’s a nice guy I was just frustrated for my state and the other states

[lapis cosmos]

I'm really afraid imma run into him during nuka one day 😅

[dense ridge]

I think everything made more sense to me after the league and promoting league process was explained. I’m not ashamed to admit I’m a fairly new player and until I understood this information. I questioned the game. Now I know.

[unkempt ibex]

king still has him beat on stats #

[fading prairie]

…and that’s why we’re here to help 🤣

We all started somewhere and learned as we go….and there are still some things I don’t understand 😥

[craggy skiff]

its for sure frustrating, if he takes your hub, you wont be matched with him next WK, and you'll most likely have a favorable/more fun match up in a few weeks

[unkempt ibex]

his troop chips are better and he would have heroes ichi can’t use the mall to max out

[limpid wharf]

It would be nice to get a preview of who we are going against

[fading prairie]

Welllllllllllll~ if theyre somehow still within the same league, there’s still a chance they would be 🫣

[unkempt ibex]

It would be nice, but unfortunately that’s a part of the game that I don’t see changing

I’ve been playing for close to a year and a half now, and it’s been that way since before I started

[craggy skiff]

always a chance, depends if ichi takes 1 or 2 enemy hubs i guess lol

[dense ridge]

Is there a way to see the other leagues

[unkempt ibex]

Granted, we had no affinity grades like gold, silver, platinum, etc., back then. The thing that stopped people from take other state’s hubs was knowing that if they were successful they had a real chance of going up against states like 49 which is full of players who have maxed out states, or 75 which was home to the then-biggest player of the game (he had a lead of about 3bil over the 2nd-biggest player at the time) until his passing.

[unkempt ibex]

You can see the top 100 states (ranging in league from Platinum-Legend). Click on the Wasteland King event, then the Leaderboard tab, then the History Rank. Click the Check button for State Trophy at the bottom and you can see some of the states you could potentially face if you are in those affinity grades

[dense ridge]

Thank you

[craggy skiff]

was this from last WK cause that 142 SET guy was against us and a pain 🤣

[fading prairie]

It’s always from the previous WK. Since it says right on the SS ”rank rewards will be sent after the event ends” 🤣

[unkempt ibex]

All time

Except for state trophy i believe

[craggy skiff]

I dont think thats all time? that was last WK, current rank shows this WK

[unkempt ibex]

My states WK alliance is top 100 on the alliance kills ranking and we didn’t get 19bil pts worth of kills today lol

[craggy skiff]

ahh you are right

[unkempt ibex]

plus when you look at states conquered, 75 is listed as having conquered 17 states

[craggy skiff]

i heard they conquered 17 states today 🤷‍♂️

[unkempt ibex]

well they conquered the hearts of about 400 states

[cinder patrol]

They what

[molten canopy]

What exactly gets taxed when you lose your state?

[lapis cosmos]

It's those taxes that go to the abyss. Like the rss transport and the 30% hit tax

[molten canopy]

So transportation and attacking?
Anything from gathering or warehouse cap?

[lapis cosmos]

It's just those 2

[patent coral]

Nothing changes for the losing state tax wise. The taxes have always been levied. The conquering state just receives them instead of them vanishing.

[molten canopy]

Awesome thats what I thought. Figured someone would know for sure

[lapis cosmos]

Yeah I call it the abyss tax nothing different

[molten canopy]

Thank you!

[lapis cosmos]

I am stingy and won't transport gas or steel for 2 weeks tho😂

[patent coral]

I wouldn't recommend it either

[molten canopy]

State nap, no transport. We protesting

🤣

[lapis cosmos]

I protested the one time we were taken helped build up a nice rss pool😂

[unkempt ibex]

gotta suck if trials of survival is on 😂

[fading prairie]

Yeah…. Worst for me was when it was trials AND showdown when we didn’t have our hub. 😭

[lapis cosmos]

Just transfer 1 rss no taxes easy peasy

[unkempt ibex]

but i have to send 69 wood 👀😂

[lapis cosmos]

Just send it 69 times 1 at a time 🤣 🤣 🤣

[atomic mural]

Snorefest then.

[unkempt ibex]

nah, you can fight and get your kills with ease, without the risk of losing your hub, without having to worry about losing tens of thousand of troops you get no retrain boost for due to turret fire

and honestly if you need to rally to break an average turret just get good instead

[atomic mural]

Unless you're over 2.5k troop and 4k individual stat you're not doing much against turrets in platinum and diamond. Plus it's 100% selfish. I like rallies because everyone on the attacking side gets points instead of 1 person. Ichi might be great but once they hit top tier his state mates are getting slaughtered. Selfish individualism.

Also everything on the black getting hit is basically a way of getting players to quit the game, yeah it's their own fault on shields but getting zeroed is no fun.

AND, in plat and diamond most states don't want to occupy opposition hub so I don't really understand why everyone cries. Leave it empty and put a few troops in for a couple of hours to get some time on the clock or do a 3 hour stint early and then empty. It's not a big deal and not complicated.

[white totem]

That looks very sexy

[broken oak]

So much sexy wow

[sullen lark]

We just had the strangest WK ever. Worked out a NAP with one of our opponents, but the other made the strangest proposal ever. He suggested we occupy each other for 10 hours, then give back the hubs and turrets. Tried to explain to him that wouldn’t work. He was so sure that he was right that he refused to work with us, so we worked with the other state to keep him out of our hubs while staying out of his. He left his hub open the entire event, and ultimately was occupied by a small alliance in the 3rd state because they were in his hub for 3 hours, and their governor-elect couldn’t reach them to tell them to get out. He then got mad that they wouldn’t get their ace boosts and told them they hadn’t played by the rules by refusing to give the hub back!

We have been messaged by quite a few from his state looking for a new home today!

[round fossil]

Wasteland King is interesting in general. I like to watch some of the interesting ones. And there are plenty

[fresh prairie]

Wow. That’s crazy

[cinder patrol]

Sometimes people are very convinced they know how WK works lol

[broken oak]

Oh fun times

[sullen lark]

I kept asking him to clarify his 10 hour proposal when after 8 hours they would have occupied us, and he insisted that after 8 hours the shield comes down and everyone gets kicked out and we go back home. I said "yes, but how do you plan to give it back after 10 hours? You will have occupied us at that point" He insisted that once the shield comes down, everyone just goes back home. He also was positive that the 3 states could occupy each other the entire 10 hours. I couldn't get him to understand that the rules imbedded in the game would not allow them to occupy me if I was occupying anyone else. He was so sure that his plan would have worked out and all 3 of us could occupy each other for 10 hours then just go home and no one loses their hub. 😵‍💫

https://tenor.com/view/thats-not-how-this-works-neil-degrasse-tyson-big-think-this-is-not-right-this-is-wrong-gif-17029984

[cinder patrol]

Like 10 hours in a row??? Or on and off lmao

[sullen lark]

10 hours, with 1 small break

[cinder patrol]

So weird.

Just occupy your own state

[fresh prairie]

That makes for a long WK

Most states that don’t fight go with the 8 hours and get it done

[sullen lark]

right?? and at the end he was mad because the state that occupied him wouldn't give it back. his state spent a grand total of 20 minutes in their own hub!

[cinder patrol]

I hate king WK where it’s just pointless resetting for points

If it’s gonna be long it better be a real fight

I know some states do that but I absolutely loathe it. I do not want to spend all day on this lol.

[livid gazelle]

I hate the long WK. I want it over so I can worry about other things

[sullen lark]

That was the other thing. He said that they had spent the last 2 weeks preparing for this and they wanted to fight, so we should be prepared to be occupied. They didn't have the power to back up the statement, and we were using T1's to hold them off! Loss of might, loss of troops, no points awarded to them. and it lasted the entire 24 hours!

[fresh prairie]

Get my occupational points then start hitting tiles and hqs

[livid gazelle]

I'm usually a lead so I have to sit in a turret the entire time

[fresh prairie]

But this wk 1 had a 37 wanting to exchange points. Made it easy

[livid gazelle]

That's when I start to sweet talk people into hitting my turret

[fading prairie]

I replied to someone earlier who was also confused about the WK timing…here was how I tried to explain it…

———

Terms of winning hub:

• Consecutively holding it for 8 hours straight.

— or —

• Maximum holding time by the end of the event. So, if it’s been switching occupations throughout the event… the state that holds it the highest total # of hours wins.

UNLESS they can still hold it for 8 hours straight. So if there was still more than 8 hours of the event remaining, another state can still win even if you’ve held it the longest.

The consecutive 8hr hold trumps the maximum total hours held

[sullen lark]

We are a state of American's and Europeans. Our bedtimes overlap, so I stayed up very late, and they got up very early so there was always someone kicking them out. They would rally the hub every few hours to clear us out, then leave right away.

[fresh prairie]

That’s annoying.

[fresh prairie]

I occupied a turret at the beginning. And my alliance Said it will be a snooze fest and to go to bed. So I did lol.

[broken oak]

Lol

[sullen lark]

Yep, I tried explaining it in the simplest of terms, while holding off his puppets, and he was so sure that he was right he wouldn't give up. His own alliance tried calling him back from battle chat to explain to him that they were sure I was correct, and he started kicking them out of the alliance. This was after the 10 hour point when I thought they were going to leave our state. We literally let them get their occupation points in our turrets because we figured they would leave and we would then get ours, but then it just kept getting weirder!

[sullen lark]

Those are the best WK's. Everyone gets their points, we all work together, and in 8 hours I can go about my day.

[fading prairie]

Well, hopefully your discussion with them have convinced some of the other state players and will hopefully convince the other guy.

There’s really nothing else you can do. 😥

[sullen lark]

The discussion convinced many people in his state that they are being led and taught by someone that doesn't know or understand how the game is played, and they are leaving. He's a bully and burns his own state regularly, telling them it's how things are done so RSS doesn't get lost to other states in VC. Someone messaged me asking me about that particular rule because he was saving for an upgrade, had just pulled all his RSS from the alliance warehouse and they attacked him before he could start his upgrade because of their rule for the night before VC. "If you have more than 1 mil above warehouse level, it will be taken" He was p-off and asked me if our state followed that rule!

they will probably be a dead state soon

[fading prairie]

Some state have the weirdest rules about purging. Some are okay with it while others aren’t….and some just don’t know any better yet til they know how others are

There are plenty of states to choose from, so it’s nice to know where players would fit in the best.

———

Side not on that person that tried to upgrade, they could’ve also easily put a bubble on first knowing how the state is being dictated.

[ashen kraken]

Witam. mam pytanie.
Nasz Gubernator opuścił stan zostawił niektórym osoba tytuły. Czy jest możliwość przez któregoś z graczy aby uruchamiał dekrety stanowe lub zmieniał nazwę państwa?

@fading prairie

[fading prairie]

If your governor has left state, unfortunately there is no way to assign titles, start boosts or change the name of the state until a new governor is assigned next wasteland king.

[ashen kraken]

Thanks you

[fading prairie]

Sorry to hear that your governor left state though. 😰 …unless you think it was a good thing they left state 🤔

[ashen kraken]

The current Governor changed his name and simply left. Can you find it for me?

Rather bad. We have suffered a lot of losses. Can the attorney be able to issue coffers rss?

[fading prairie]

Unfortunately no. 😅 i only moderate the discord and don’t have powers to find or make changes in game or players.

Based on the latest patch notes, If there’s still an Aide assigned, they can now distribute coffers.

[ashen kraken]

I can't spend governor awards.

[fading prairie]

No. Only the Governor can do that.

Until recently, Aide was only able to distribute titles, but they’ve changed that to add coffers. But most features are still Governor restricted only.

[ashen kraken]

The problem is that we do not have a governor. Is it possible that the staff somehow help us with this problem?

[fading prairie]

Unfortunately, no.

Staff will not interfere with the game politics. If players have mistakenly chosen a wrong Gov or if the Gov won’t assign titles or hoard the boxes of if they choose to leave…. there is nothing anyone can do until a new Gov is assigned next Wasteland King.

[ashen kraken]

Whether the boxes are reset. Are you adding more?

[fading prairie]

The Governor Award boxes? No.
Gov has control of those too.

[ashen kraken]

Thank you. Have a nice evening

[sullen lark]

He didn’t think he needed one because he was about to use it all to upgrade. He’s pretty sure they saw him pulling rss from his warehouse and raided him because as soon as the supply truck landed, they hit him. He says he learned his lesson and will always bubble before an upgrade now.

[fading prairie]

Most likely. 😥. So hopefully he does put a bubble up before… but that’s still rude 😭

[orchid belfry]

Are hub occupier and governor now 2 different designations?
Shows 2 different players for us

[quartz flame]

what state are you in?

[orchid belfry]

419

[quartz flame]

They're the same for me

[orchid belfry]

Governor is not Scarecrow

[broken oak]

Oh

So who did you appoint as gov and who is gov

[orchid belfry]

I mean no big deal lol, just was curious if this was a new thing 😬😬

[broken oak]

Might just be a visual glitch

[orchid belfry]

Queen

[broken oak]

Ok so the gov is right just not when you look at the hub

[quartz flame]

It's not a new thing

Is scarecrow, by chance the r5 of the occupation allaince?

It listed him on the list view and hub, it's a lag/ your screen glitch

[orchid belfry]

No, same alliance

[orchid belfry]

Correct

[broken oak]

It's possibly a bug I'll add it to the report let me know if it fixes itself

[quartz flame]

Sent in. Even the mail link from the state view goes to scarecrow

[quartz flame]

Send a ticket to CS. More-settings-info-contact CS

[orchid belfry]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[iron grove]

Did troop in the hub lost by missile from turret count toward casualty point?

[broken oak]

Nope

[unkempt ibex]

not hard to top leaderboards when you’re going against freshly open states who are still doing their first wks and haven’t yet learnt better than to throw everything they have at the wall lol

Try topping those same leaderboards when y’all quickly end up in platinum affinity grade cuz your accounts are too old to fly to new states now, and get fcked up cuz you have 7 players with t10s or 11s and you’re going up against states with dozens of players with both as well as the potential of hq40s, then we can talk

[cinder patrol]

Potential wasteland coverage layout:

[muted lily]

CURIOUS 🤔
has it ever been considered to do WK event every 3 weeks or once a month?
Bi.weekly seems like a lot / very often
With not much recoup / rest... The times of start for both WK & Valiant are 3am west coast usa 6am east coast. ... It is kinda torturous every other week .. .. Maybe time start can alternate .. Just asking / wondering if it has been considered ..?? 🤔 thanks😇

[river cape]

Both have been suggested, but we haven’t heard/seen anything to suggest they’ve considered it. Even moving start time by 12 hours will give those with stupid o’clock start times a chance at proper rest on the weekends.

[lapis cosmos]

I am east coast 6am start time isn't bad either im up or sleep through. I like the biweekly cause if I miss one due to oversleeping or busy I know I can make it in 2 weeks. So much has been suggested but probably won't change since I rotates with valiant

[cinder patrol]

It’s the biggest event in the game, like the keystone event.

[muted lily]

Maybe a vote system wide and see if alternating start times could be a thing ...?? 🤔

[cinder patrol]

They won’t do it

I’ve been waking up between 2 and 3 am for over a year. State vs. state events stick to one schedule so it’s consistent.

[muted lily]

Just because it Has been like that, does not mean a change should not be considered. Has it every been asked in a vote to see if a change is wanted? ... 🤔

[lapis cosmos]

Also just think too. Not everyone participates every wasteland I know people try but not always. I personally don't think it should change like it hurts at least once a month waking up at the butt Crack of dawn thats when I have caffiene or a pillow on standbys once i sit down lol

[quartz flame]

It's been asked and turned down. WK is most people's primary source of AceCmdr points and troops increase. It drives the game economy, there is no need to for vote to low the the times it happens, everyday /non casual players rely on it and enjoy it.

[mortal walrus]

This maybe old hat but mods, what exactly happens when a state loses? What do taxes come from?

[quartz flame]

From taxes you already pay on transports

[mortal walrus]

So nothing bad really happens?

Like the state wont be in danger or anything right?

Does the occupying state stay or do they have to immigrate?

[quartz flame]

You won't get titles or boosts. No Gov, but the other state has no control

[mortal walrus]

Gotcha. Thanks. We don’t lose but Id rather know than not know

[white totem]

Everyone loses eventually

Back in the day we never lost. Til Andrew showed up with his t1’s

[mortal walrus]

Well it’s good to know what to expect in case that happ…..T1s?!

How? Millions of em?

How many millions?

[white totem]

Yeah. Just because he could. He cleared every building with 1’s

[mortal walrus]

How many t1s?

And how can I person do that when you can only send 1 march?

[white totem]

Seems like he had an unlimited supply. Was number 1 in the game. Lol

[mortal walrus]

1 person*

But you can only have one march at a time in the hub

[white totem]

He didn’t keep ‘em. Killed them and moved to the next

[mortal walrus]

Interesting!

[white totem]

But we eventually lost our hub

[quartz flame]

We beat Andrew 5xs in 2 different states. By beat I mean he respected us fighting back till we were all dead and letting us go.

[mortal walrus]

Omg

[white totem]

Anyone who’s gone against Andrew knows that story all too well….

[mortal walrus]

It’s a brilliant strategy

[white totem]

Only faced him once. It ended up being him against Bikini….

They kept just killing each other because the rest of us were beyond healing

[broken oak]

Damn mustve been fun to watch

[white totem]

That was back in the day before hq40 came out

[patent coral]

We were against Bikini during my first WK. Needless to say it wasn't a long day for me.

[white totem]

How long ago was that?

[patent coral]

Probably about a year ago or something around there.

[white totem]

So you were probably against me too….

[patent coral]

Perhaps. Bikini just made a real impression on me. I didn't last long enough to see anyone else that was there. Lol

[lofty trellis]

Hi Paula...don't go to 500 & later States... a lot of them are farm accounts. You'll get raided almost everyday. Take care.

[teal quarry]

Fix wasteland king…… & my color

[rotund niche]

Do turret kills against the Hub actually count towards anything points-wise?

Like the missile fire

I thought it counted towards Casualty rewards, but now I’m not sure

[quartz flame]

Because it's the missiles did it, no causality points. It's a bad spot to be in

[rotund niche]

Well poo. Okie doke, thanks for clarifying 🙂

[river cape]

Turret fire counts for diddly except making sure you get no casualty points!

[white totem]

For the coffer boxes how much can be distributed to a player?

[fading prairie]

Never actually reached a limit per players since we’ve always split it amongst the alliances that participated. But im sure the limit would be the amount of coffers available.

So if you want to give all the coffers to one player… you can 🤔

[cinder patrol]

someone posted a ss earlier, there wasn't a visible limit other than what was available

[sage spear]

10m per player (per day), and it scales steel and gas according to standard ratios.

[cinder patrol]

oh so 10m is the limit

not what they have

i saw the 10m but then i saw 9.63m gas

or something

[fading prairie]

There’s a limit?! 🤣
We clearly distribute ours to too many people … or the other state doesn’t transfer 🥺

[covert maple]

Me! i volunteer as test subject to receive all and make sure it’s working

for science

[fading prairie]

Oooo. Me too! 🤣 @sage spear …you gonna donate rss towards my and Ophie’s quest for science?!?! 🤩🤩🤩

[covert maple]

Sounds fair 😂

[fading prairie]

…and don’t forgets to bring the snacks! 🤣 just a little more than a week til next WK, so that’s plenty of time to get groceries.

[covert maple]

Deal! I’ll bring snacks

[fading prairie]

Technically that snack comment was for Hill to bring us snacks 🫣 but we can all bring some and have a smorgasbord of snacks while Hill gives us rss! 😂 …..while we watch troops perish in the turrets and hub!

Its interesting to see the number of votes asking if WK is too long 🤔

[covert maple]

Oooh I haven’t checked the poll lately

[quartz sundial]

During wasteland kings and we take another state hub, is it true that as long as we keep the other hub my state will have a shield?

[sage spear]

As long as you only take 1 foreign hub. If you take a second hub, your shield will drop

[quartz sundial]

Thanks

[white totem]

Yep and if your hub gets reset when you take it back it’s autobubbled too

[lyric warren]

Can you elaborate on what gets shielded? Your hub? The whole state?

[broken oak]

Hub

[lyric warren]

And it's protected for how long?

[white totem]

If someone attack your hub and you will get it back it's has 30min shield

[lyric warren]

Thanks. Same duration if you occupy a foreign hub?

[livid gazelle]

If you occupy a foreign hub and still hold your own you will have a shield on your hub until you lose the foreign hub

[lyric warren]

Thanks.

[mortal walrus]

So why is there no state infirmary for wk like vc?

[cinder patrol]

Because it’s meant to be a risk. You put your troops on the line to defend your state.

[mortal walrus]

Or get folks to spend more money. But if putting troops on the line is the story y’all are telling….

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-what-huh-will-smith-i-mean-gif-15916247

[cinder patrol]

I mean but the risk is part of it. It is a risk you take. And I would find it boring without it, honestly. It makes the victories that much better. I really just try to enjoy the game.

[mortal walrus]

I mean people have fun during vc too.

[cinder patrol]

I’m aware of that. I just wouldn’t much see the point of trying hard in WK to defend if I knew everything came back. For me there’s no incentive to strategize and I’d never have learned all the tricks I have if there wasn’t really something at risk. So I’m fine with the troop loss and have had the most fun during WK. I never do Valiant.

It’s a unifying experience, to fight and risk losing your troops together. Plus there is fast comeback so you can get back more than you lost.

[mortal walrus]

If that’s the official story then🤷🏽‍♀️

[unkempt ibex]

The discord moderators don’t speak for the developers of the game unless asked to relay update information

I’ve been playing this game a year and a half now, and when it comes to WK the risk of losses and the losses themselves are part of the reward

You earn rewards for having troops die and for killing troops, and you get a 300% training speed boost for the might equivalent of 120% of the might you lost which is a massive boost

Plus it’s fun lol. Working together as a state to fight for your state brings everybody together, cuz whether you win or lose everybody is helping each other and recognising the input of their neighbours

[cinder patrol]

There is no official story. It’s my own perspective. I try to enjoy the game for myself. I have always enjoyed WK except when I was running it. I have only thought about it terms of state unity, nothing else. And when the healing is too costly, we send T1s. Or nothing at all. You don’t need to spend anything. And that’s strategy I learned because of the risk.

[cinder patrol]

The best WK were also the toughest ones. Sending resources to people in my state to help them, watching and keeping fingers crossed for rallies to win (or lose). Some of my best memories in the past 16 months have been the long, struggle bus WKs. And they gave me my good friends. I moved to the state I did BECAUSE my first two WKs with them were crazy and I stayed friends with the leader of the alliance in that state.

[unkempt ibex]

one of my favourite WKs was actually the most recent time we lost our hub. a lot of people have given up and gone home cuz this was after the other state had lied in order to break the NAP and take our hub and a few of them drastically outmatched us. But I and another player coordinated with all of the alliances on the blacktops edge to use the force relocate alliance skill at the same time, then super rallied the hub cuz the hq40 captaining it has been parked in one of the hives. we managed to reset the hub, and take back 3 of the turrets

even though they came back for the hub the second the 30min shield dropped, it was worth it just to piss them off a bit and waste an extra 3.5hrs of their time til they had 8 consecutive 😂

plus they had 3 new HQ40s fly in after our valiant against them and burn a lot of the state, so i can tell we weren’t the first state they’ve pissed off 😂

[nova mist]

Do tile hits during wasteland count for kills

[cinder patrol]

Yes but not for fast comeback

[nova mist]

Ty

[runic obsidian]

Has the new immigration rules changed the WK match ups to have newer states against newer states to start?

[fading prairie]

Not that we're aware of. Immigration rules have nothing to do with WK match ups.
The matches are based on what league and number of trophies your state has.

Your first WK with be with states at your level. From there you can keep track of your trophies and what league your state is in. The range of states you're matched with are anyone in the same league.

[cinder patrol]

As a newer state you will be matched with other newer states. You begin in the starter league.

[shut blade]

Can militarist and overseer both change captains in turrets/hub during WK?

[cinder patrol]

No. Only the captain can.

[shut blade]

Or only militarist and r5?

Ahhh

[cinder patrol]

Yeah. Only the captain of the tower or hub can do anything to their building.

[shut blade]

Gotcha thanks. So that is dif than res wars/clash yes?

[cinder patrol]

Yes

[shut blade]

Can militarist/overseer kick folks from hub /turret though?

[cinder patrol]

No. Only the captain. It’s why it’s good to have an assigned captain and assigned co-captain so if the captain is offline, the co-captain can super reinforce and take control and remove people.

I’ve many times sped up 1 troop to a turret or the hub and had to super reinforce strictly for the ability to kick everyone out lol