👑wasteland-king

[crystal willow]

1008? that seems unreal 👀 unless the losses were inflicted by turret shots, which don’t count toward the 300%

[real warren]

Right!

Hmmm... there were a lot of turret shots...

[crystal willow]

that explains..

[real warren]

That never occurred to me. I never even thought of turret shots

Thank you!!!

[crystal willow]

yeah it is easily ignored and often incurs a lot of unwanted dmg. beware next time..

[real warren]

We were helping another state. Well worth it. Troops are replaceable

[fresh prairie]

Which state were you helping?

[real warren]

279

[sage briar]

I dont think theres any point to using fast comeback early

[cinder patrol]

It’s not that there is no point. People want to retrain ASAP. Especially if they’re still fighting long after. Cheaper to retrain.

[fading prairie]

Question. If Gov leaves state, can state reappoint a new Gov or are they SOL til next Zenith? What happens to the titles? Boxes?

[sage spear]

They cannot appoint anyone else. Titles can still be awarded by the aide, boxes are lost. Boosts cannot be turned on.

[fading prairie]

Well shiitake mushrooms. 😂. Thank you!

[sage spear]

Did that happen to your state?

[fading prairie]

Yup 😂. Don’t know what happened since I wasn’t around for Zenith, But the appointed gov left after distributing the boxes and removing titles…so we are SOL 🤣😂🤣

[livid gazelle]

Well that was rude...

[fading prairie]

Rude is the polite way of calling it 😂

[sage spear]

Ouch! I was appointed governor on the scheduled day my alliance was leaving the state. I didn’t want to be that person, so I’ve stayed around an extra couple weeks and had fun anyway.

[livid gazelle]

You the MVP

[sage spear]

Not really. Just trying to be slightly less of an ass as I usuallly am 🤣

[low radish]

@real warren and I love you for it!!! See you Saturday!

[elfin folio]

Have any of you had ppl fly into your state and burn everyone? State burners? Apparently they fly in and don't follow their rules or any others. Then they burn anyone not bubbled 24/7. It's very unenjoyable playing the game now... I'm only like 4 wks in and this SUCKS

[fresh prairie]

does this only happen on the weekends?

[elfin folio]

😂

If onlyn

I'm so sick of setting alarms to put up a new bubble and watching ppl leave the game.

[fresh prairie]

You can always acquire tickets. And move states. Use your alliance coins

Your a low hq? Should be that much

[fresh prairie]

My state bubbles one day once every other week

[elfin folio]

Then you don't know what kind of state you are walking into though.

My HQ is 21 and I have a ticket. But I've made so many friends and don't want to give them the whole place to keep burning ppl.

[fresh prairie]

That’s unfortunate. Maybe look into moving everyone

[elfin folio]

Sad that 3/4 of the state would leave if they don't stop. I enjoy playing the game with ppl on my level. Not burning everything that I can below me. There isn't any challenge in that. Just bullying.

[fresh prairie]

Which state

[echo edge]

What state? And is it an alliance that’s causing trouble or a group of rouge players?

[sleek wedge]

Dont do that Kazumi. We all need hug once in a fortnight 😌

[fresh prairie]

I stay far away from you. Lol

And stay out of your league

[cinder patrol]

You research it. Message people or check #✅alliances-seeking-players or make a farm in a state to check it out.

[rose halo]

Which state you are and whats the name of the alliance which is bullying? There was this kind of alliance named xxx in s408 burning everyone not bubbled

[elfin folio]

MOB and I believe they are related to xxx. I have heard the name several times although I am a newer player.

459

It looks like they change names to fly under radar. They came in initially as random alliances. Spread out in small groups.

Just curious who else had encountered something similar and what strategies worked/didn't work.

[rose halo]

If those guys are hq26s with bumped equipment only a steong t11 or t12 can make them shield

[livid gazelle]

We got a threat in our state today. Waiting to find out if we need to worry. There's some strange stuff afoot

[rose halo]

I saw them they are not scarry but if you have someone who can spend to lvl up fast to hq34 or 35 and get strong fast he/she can buen them

[elfin folio]

@livid gazelle indeed some weird stuff!

When I get strong, I'm making a collective group that finds these jerks and takes them down.

[livid gazelle]

I don't have the money to make those trips

[elfin folio]

I'm new to the game, so I don't understand all of the fine details.

[livid gazelle]

Traveling costs a bit. Bigger you are the more flights you need

[elfin folio]

Oh gotcha. They lowered it so only hq 26 and below, can come in anyway.

[livid gazelle]

We're in too old a state for that

[elfin folio]

What lvl are you?

[livid gazelle]

HQ 37 at the moment. Probably gonna sit here for a while

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. Harder for bigger players to move right now. Costs 2 arms. A leg. Maybe some teeth.

[elfin folio]

Wow! That is incredible! Congrats to you! Have you played a long time?

And a kidney 😂@fresh prairie

[livid gazelle]

Started in 59 so it's been a bit

Actually have no clue how long

[elfin folio]

Oh wow!!!

[covert maple]

And a tonne of rss 😅

[livid gazelle]

Gotta have the rss to lose it 🤣

[covert maple]

True 🤣

[fresh prairie]

Need more. Always more

[harsh bronze]

I have a question. When another state is conquered, who takes leadership of the other state? The governor of my state?

Imagine a powerful HQ decided to break a NAP and took the other state by himself. Would they become governor of that state or would leadership still be passsed to the governor?

[quartz flame]

The highest might in that state gets limited gov powers.

[harsh bronze]

Ah ok. I was just thinking of a powerrful HQ but in a lower power alliance doing all the hardwork but then getting no reward at the end.

[quartz flame]

All you get is taxes from the other state, you get no control

[cinder patrol]

I know people freak out about being conquered but all that happens is you have no boosts and reward boxes to hand out. The worst part by far was just the lack of a bulletin. Other state doesn’t get to do anything to you at all.

[crystal knot]

Yes, happening right now to one of the states my farm was in. 1 alliance comes in and takes control, opens the gates for 2 other alliances and then they farm everyone they can. Only 2 of the original alliances are left. The strongest player tried to fight them but they ganged up on him and gave him a bad title. He went from 300mil to 125mil. They have done this in 1 other state that I know of. Once they are done they move on to another

[mint carbon]

That was tried many times. They have meatwalls of t1s so the 35s just zero

[livid gazelle]

Need someone with a ton of t1s to help bring down the meatwalls

[mint carbon]

Honestly the server I was in wasted over 20k easy trying to zero players who just laughed. Moved on and did it again. They’re sh** stirrers and need to be ignored. Shield or fly.

[visual glacier]

If that's the case, the gov is probably not doing a good job. In my state, my gov gave a SPW to that high might player (even though that player is of a different nationality and in a smaller alliance)

thinks the gov wanna motivate other players to grow and contribute to state events

[fresh prairie]

The swp are just a small portion. They arnt really that important. And of course you want strong person to have it, if you were going to give to someone. But the gov doesn’t really have a choice who has and doesn’t have

[dusky talon]

Hi, has anyone had experience in a state where they build a 'state alliance' to host Zenith/WLK?

In my two other states, top alliances rotate in hosting WLK and there is no issue. But in the new state I am in, they want to have a 'state alliance'. The reasons are:

1. Neutral space, not dominated by one alliance.

2. If an established alliance hosts, there wouldn't be space for players from other alliances to join. Better to have a state alliance that is empty and ready to accommodate all participants.

3. If an established alliance hosts they need to have their members move, which will inconvenience the smaller players and not allow them to join alliance events.

I think these reasons are not very good.

First of all because of this state alliance, the R5 who is chosen to be governor must transfer leadership to someone else and move to the state alliance. After he the event he moves back to his alliance. I don't see how that is maintaining neutrality.

Second, space is not an issue, players can move out to sister or farm alliances to vacate for other participating in Zenith and they will not miss any alliance events during that time.

And the most important thing is that an already established alliance will already have their alliance tech already well researched. The state alliance is only occupied every two weeks with about 10 or so permanently stationed there. There is no way the tech boost is researched well.

Maybe someone can share more insights whether having a state alliance is beneficial at all. Thank you.

[fresh prairie]

We have one. It’s so much easier than having to kick people to make room

[dusky talon]

I see... What about the tech research?

[livid gazelle]

Maybe start with the shell of an established alliance?

[white totem]

There are some very well established states that do this with huge success. An example of such is a top Alliance built & maxed out the Tech after which it was declared the State Alliance. Some small accounts were left in it to make sure it didn't breakdown & proceeded onto another shell to build it up.

[cinder patrol]

I’ve always been in states that had a state alliance. It just needs to be built up. Put active farms in it from people who log onto it daily and build it up that way.

[river cape]

Tech is only part of it. In 144 we have this. The alliance also hosts new people since untagged are fair game. Those who do go to the state alliance donate to tech as they can while there as well.
We have farms there as well so tech is always being improved.
If any of the farms need to leave to make room, they are welcome in any alliance in the state, as well.

[elfin folio]

Update on the burners ..... Flew to a whole new state. Had a great first 24hrs. And.....
They followed us!!!!!

Don't waste tickets flying out in the future. I'm probably just going to delete the game at this rate.

[echo edge]

Maybe fly to an older/established state with a friendly NAP. There should be big players to stop them.

[hallow crown]

Sorry to hear that, but as Bodhi said, you should probably look for an established state, with players strong enough to deal with that kind of threat

[elfin folio]

That's my plan In 30 days... This is insane

[cinder patrol]

Don’t tell anyone where you’re going. I never tell people outside of those who need to know or that I trust. People are nuts.

[elfin folio]

I'm already spending too much time on this game .. I think I'm going to delete it or leave it and maybe when I pick it back up in a month or two, game life will be back to normal.
Can't focus on Upgrading HQ because it is nuts to buy 5-6 tickets to fly to another state already at 22.

[sullen lark]

I’m actually the R5 of our “state alliance”. It’s been great. No one wonders where to go, there’s plenty of room for everyone, my alliance farm is usually fresh. We used an old alliance shell that was leaving the state, so the tech was already built. The Governor doesn’t have to be the R5, I just appoint the Governor when the time comes, then he/she can go back to their alliance. It is a good neutral way to get everyone together, and with the exception of a few dead HQs, pretty much everyone in the alliance is participating in WK. Nobody pops on in the afternoon asking “where did all these people come from?”, or “what’s going on?” It’s beneficial.

[fresh prairie]

Welcome to come join me

[dusky talon]

Thank you all for your answers regarding the state alliance. Our state alliance is quite new, 3 weeks old , from a very small alliance that merged with another. Right now, there is only about 13 members inside, and the state is kind of relaxed about it and there is no push to have people move in to get the tech going. From your answers, I understand that there should b an active participation of the state to build up the state alliance. And I have brought the issue forth.

[livid gazelle]

I hope it works out

[river cape]

Good luck 🙂
It really is worth the effort.

[thick narwhal]

How do I sign up for the upcoming wk?

[livid gazelle]

Depends on how your state handles it

Ours has each alliance send volunteers and then the hosting alliance chooses who to use

[livid gazelle]

See if your state has a discord

[stuck burrow]

Can anyone be attacked or only on wasteland?

[quartz flame]

Only if they're in black, normal area youre safe

[rotund niche]

What if you’re from the same state, but sitting in the green in an enemy state? Can you be attacked by someone from your state while abroad?

[quartz flame]

Yes

[unborn beacon]

Any other states besides us (120) get shafted out of a troop training speed boost after wasteland. Didn’t really notice until we went to activate it for ace and it says 0 attempts

[fresh prairie]

Was it activated already?

Like last week

[unborn beacon]

No there would be a cool down

[unborn beacon]

I just spoke with the current governor now that you said that and it was possible it was activated with fast comeback by accident. I had to think real hard and I may have seen two boosts on after wasteland ended. Thanks

We rotate governor and this has never happened. We will have to make sure to remind whoever is taking it to be careful

[cinder patrol]

If it’s already ended the CD then yeah, it was activated last week. Sooooomebody did the same thing when he was governor @misty sinew cough

[misty sinew]

[cinder patrol]

[misty sinew]

[crystal willow]

👀

[livid gazelle]

Peeper

[sage briar]

State 146 is getting a beat down 😵😵

[livid gazelle]

👀

[quartz flame]

@misty sinew Howdy, neighbor

[gusty flame]

Hi, I have a question.

What is the correct way to use state boost 300% for training?

I just have been looking in this chat, i'm not sure I understand it very well.

Thanks.

[misty sinew]

Howdy

[misty sinew]

The governor actives it after you have either secured your hub, lose it, or wasteland king

[cinder patrol]

ends, was that missing word

[misty sinew]

=_=

[quartz flame]

The end hasn't been written yet

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/really-deep-thats-deep-nick-jonas-jumanji-jumanji-movie-gif-11210072

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/im-actually-just-stupid-wolfe-glick-wolfeyvgc-wolfey-panda-global-gif-18105174

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-bigbangtheory-maybe-gif-5336221

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

[livid gazelle]

👀

[sullen lark]

It’s available after WK is over. It is used to help speed up the replacement of your killed troops. It will only speed up the training of troops equal to the amount you lost. If you lose 3,000 troops you get the 300% boost on training 3,000 troops. Troop tier does not matter. If you lose 3,000 T1 taxis, you can train 3,000 T12 shooters at the 300% speed boost. I hope that answers your question.

[quartz flame]

It's equal to might lost, if you loose 3m might of t1s, you can train 3m might of any troop size. Not 1 for 1

[sullen lark]

Ah, I am mistaken. I assumed that the numbers on the counter were troops killed.

[quartz flame]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-all-folks-ending-retro-fin-gif-16311735

[crystal willow]

asserting dominance again? 😂

[quartz flame]

Lol

I licked that spot, mine now

[livid gazelle]

Lol

[misty sinew]

I think it is might lose plus 25 percent

[warped breach]

For state taxes, Do govs appoint taxed rss or does the game automatically calculate and send out rss to the states members?

[fading prairie]

The rss you get from getting another state’s hub?

It goes to the coffers and gov can distribute them

[misty sinew]

If you don't hold another hub then you won't get resources. The resources from tax are for other states when they hold your hub. If no one holds hubs the the taxes are lost forever

[livid gazelle]

That really is a shame

[visual glacier]

Got a bug, I got Zero Kill Points after defending the turret for 8 hours 🥲

[quartz flame]

How many kills are in your battle reports?

[visual glacier]

e.g. one of the them says the Attacker (all T8s) has 32,439 wounded and 9,096 killed

[misty mesa]

Post a SS

[quartz flame]

A SS would definitely help

[fresh prairie]

Odd

[worthy grove]

One key element of Wasteland that would improve the game experience is to stop showing the Hub is occupied by (alliance) for the last x hours.

The message is annoying and maybe should only be shown every 15 minutes.

[quartz flame]

You only lost 42 troops defending. Not enough to register on the table.

[visual glacier]

🥲

I switched to rider formation in this WK... so less troops lost = no kill points? 😭

[livid gazelle]

How many did you kill personally?

[visual glacier]

None, I was assigned to stay in the turret for the entire 8 hrs. As we have all NAPs, there's nothing left to kill after the 8 hrs...

[quartz flame]

You can still get kill points on tiles until event ends, about 13 hours

[visual glacier]

Thanks 😆

[pallid sierra]

So do you not have a governor if you are conquered by another state?

[livid gazelle]

You won't

[pallid sierra]

So what does that mean? No titles etc? But anything else that effects us?

[sand kraken]

U pay taxes to other state

[wheat obsidian]

Having a little fun in s24 right now

[livid gazelle]

No titles, taxes to other state, and no boxes. Otherwise not much

[pallid sierra]

Thank you we had been taken over by xxx who jacked up our numbers and now we just get wrecked in Valiant and wasteland so until our rank goes back down this this life

[lapis cosmos]

Beautiful Show yall putting on👏

[wheat obsidian]

Did one of your guys get a pic with all the red lines?

[lapis cosmos]

Haven't looked yet I left earlier in the day so im not in the mix im watching from the outside

[wheat obsidian]

Ah ok. We were hoping to see one from the other view

[cinder patrol]

“Pay” taxes is a bit of an inaccurate explanation of what happens anyway. You already pay the taxes every time you transfer or attack a sanctuary. Usually they just go nowhere (which is stupid). But when you’re conquered, instead of disappearing, they go to the other state. So nothing on your end changes.

[pallid sierra]

Thank you

[vital lark]

What happens if a new alliance was made for wasteland and that new alliance won wasteland but now everyone is back in their original alliance except for 3 people? But the governor who made the alliance is still governor... if any of this makes sense

[cinder patrol]

It will be disbanded if there aren’t at least 11 accounts in it at all times

So it needs to be held by someone and stick some farm accounts in it

[vital lark]

Wont that mess up the state having a governor though?

[cinder patrol]

Lots of states use a state alliance for WK. Everyone joins and then goes home. They keep it open by housing farm accounts in it.

[cinder patrol]

No. The governor doesn’t need to be in the alliance that won after they’ve been titled.

[vital lark]

Ok but if they don't have 11 accts it will disband?

[cinder patrol]

The only way to lose a governor once you have one is if they immigrate out

[cinder patrol]

Yes. You get 3 days. The leader will get a warning system message in the mail.

[vital lark]

Ok thank you

[lapis cosmos]

I did get yellow lines it finally loaded my screenshots

[wheat obsidian]

Awesome! Thanks blue 😊

[sage spear]

You killed troops from your own state. You need to kill foreign troops for kill points.

[cinder patrol]

No you don’t. Not in WK. Unless you mean the general points.

When you’re occupying or attacking hub they don’t have to be foreign from what I was reading.

[summer oak]

If you have already won your hub and a different alliance in your state takes another a hub- what happens?

[sage spear]

We ran into this a few wastelands ago when some players tried to make their points in state and no one holding the turrets or hubs were getting kill points.
It does say foreign units on some screens and enemy units on others, but 95% certain you get casualties from in state attacks, but not kills.

[summer oak]

Any one?

[sage spear]

Then you have a second state. Doesn’t matter when you secure that second state. The coffers go to the governor to hand out

[summer oak]

We have multiple alliances trying NOT to win it, what happens

How much time do they have to hold it?

[sage spear]

You have to hold it for 8 continuous hours or longer than anyone else over the 24 hour period

[summer oak]

So as long as we keep kicking out the alliances trying to hold it, we don’t win it?

I know strange questions

[sage spear]

If you click on that hub, then click on Occupation List, you can see how long it has been held for by other alliances

[summer oak]

Doesn’t matter when OR who right?

[sage spear]

Yes, if the alliance that occupies the second hub is the same or different as the one that hold the home hub, it is treated the same after. All the extras go to the governor of the home state. It can be before or after securing your own hub.

[sage spear]

Look at the timer. At this point, no one can hold it for 8 hours strait. So as long as someone else has the longest time and cannot be beaten, you can just let them hang out in the hub until the end doing whatever they want.

[summer oak]

Thank you!!!!

[warped breach]

Yeah for holding a 2nd hub!

Thanks for the info!

[smoky grove]

So anyone else missing training cap from casualties in wasteland?

[sage spear]

The fast comeback is very specific to how you lost troops. It doesn’t include troops lost to turret fire, doesn’t include tile or hq hits.

[smoky grove]

I only have casualties from turret fights

I was never in hub. Only in turret that got hit multiple times. No hq hits and no tile hits. Over 5mil casualties because I checked my rank yesterday. My friend has the same problem.

[sage spear]

That should be the only reasons.
You would have to double check your logs and details to be sure. I’ve never had and issue. Mine don’t match this week because I had a lot of casualties outside of turret battles.

[dawn prairie]

Does wasteland pairing depend on state destroyer rankings?

[cinder patrol]

No. This is a lie.

[dawn prairie]

Thought so. Thank you!

[sage spear]

Wow, that rumour has taken off again. Lol

[cinder patrol]

Yeah I haven’t seen it in like a year

[high forum]

Question. My state is platinum grade with 2300 points. As I read the information in game, I am to believe we will get 500 points for simply defending our own hub, not taking others. Some want to lose on purpose and drop affinity, but as I see it. We will have to lose about 5 times.. (and assume someone will actually take ours) and then once we are that low, it still seems we will have to win one, then lose one or two.. an endless and pointless strategy. Any clear information on this please?

[crystal willow]

at platinum, you will not gain nor lose points if you only take your own hub.

[high forum]

What about when we drop to gold ?

Where does it explain that?

[crystal willow]

when you are in gold, you gain points even if you only hold your own hub. but in platinum, you no longer gain points for doing that. in the first table, “no zenith hub occupied” refers to you holding only your own hub.

[high forum]

Ok. So of you're in gold rank. It seems hard to stay in gold. I mean if we drop to gold. Then hold our own hub.. we get 500 points right?

[livid gazelle]

Basically

They don't want people to stay in gold I guess

[crystal willow]

in gold if you only hold your own, you get 200.

[high forum]

Ok. So they need to update the chart then

[high forum]

40's love to take states and feel better about themselves

[livid gazelle]

There's a few that don't

[crystal willow]

like i said, you look at the last (far right) column if you only keep your own hub

[high forum]

Thanks I understand. I just mean the wording is off. Or rather, it does not specify as you put it. But thanks I just wanted to be sure I understood it

[crystal willow]

yeah. it is a bit confusing.

[high forum]

It's a little better. I just dont see why dropping to gold is of any use. When you will only go back up. Without continuing to lose some on purpose

Makes more sense to fight or know when to fold

[crystal willow]

right. dropping to gold does not help a lot. maybe a cycle or two. but staying at low points in platinum might help, because i think (although not 100% sure) that the matchmaking still tries to match states with similar number of trophies within the same tier.

[cinder patrol]

Think so

[livid gazelle]

We usually get matched with similar states and we're low platinum

[crystal willow]

and how many trophies are you?

[livid gazelle]

2300 lol

[crystal willow]

ah ok. so that makes sense for you to be matched with low platinums

[livid gazelle]

Every time we would take a hub we would get matched with a big state the next wk, so we stopped

[crystal willow]

yeah, i’m thinking, maybe we just send some T1s into the hub and turrets, and we will still win our hub by the end of the day, because we are 2950 trophies and people matched with us will be pushed to diamond if they take our hub. lol

[livid gazelle]

Ouch

I don't ever want to match with you guys

[crystal willow]

it would be interesting to test it out. i think on one would occupy us even if we leave the hub empty 😂

[cinder patrol]

I would like to match again with 215 now that I have my main account. 🙂

[livid gazelle]

I think it would be fun to watch

[cinder patrol]

🔥

[crystal willow]

what does that mean? "now that i have my main account"

[cinder patrol]

Because last time I didn’t have my main account

This time I do

[crystal willow]

lol, ok. you guys still platinum?

[cinder patrol]

Yes

[crystal willow]

cool. i will look forward to it then 😎

[livid gazelle]

If it happens please let me know so I can observe

[crystal willow]

observe taxis bumping into each other 🤣

[livid gazelle]

FYI there's some strange stuff afoot in #🇬🇧english

[livid gazelle]

I've seen taxis do some damage

One of our bigger guys sent T1 to destroyer thw other day and still scored pretty good

[warped breach]

During this last WK we were trying to take a 2nd hub, every so often they were able to take it back from us and each time they did it shielded their hub for 30 mins…. Each time it was shielded it was a different person holding the Hub.

My question is how were they able to shield without holding another states hub?

I was thinking the Total Defense Alliance skill but that said it’s for alliance territory, so that couldn’t be it..

Any insight would be awesome

[rugged marlin]

So when you drive out another foreign state from your hub, you get a 30 min shield.

[cinder patrol]

Yep

That’s why you leave before they attack

So they get no shield

[warped breach]

THANK YOUUU!!!! I was looking every where for this info during the event! Lol shows how close I was actually looking 🤦🏼‍♀️

[rugged marlin]

It's ok it's hidden under the wasteland event (!) 🙏🏻

[cinder patrol]

That 30 minute shield has saved us a couple of times though

We strategically would win our hub back to add more time to our occupation

[warped breach]

That shield was driving us nuts lol those were the longest 30 mins EVER 🤣

[cinder patrol]

Yeah you have to clear out

So it’s unoccupied

[warped breach]

Smart

Yeah, we will be more prepared next time! Thank you both!!

[valid umbra]

Gonna make this short. We took another state hub. Got shield on our hub. We took the 3rd state hub and lost our shield. Why?

We held all 3 hubs

[cinder patrol]

Because you can’t hold both

You get a shield if you hold another hub. You lose it if you hold a third.

[valid umbra]

Thanks I will keep that in mind for next time.

[uneven halo]

I have two questions-
Do you only get matched against states in the same trophy division?

How long does the shield last if you take a foreign hub, is it the same 30mins you get for retaking your home hub, or does it last until you leave the foreign hub/complete occupation of the home hub?

[cinder patrol]

1. Yes
2. The shield lasts for as long as you occupy the other state’s hub

[uneven halo]

Thanks, that's what i thought, but i feared the shield was only 30mins.

So, connected to the division question, are the majority of states in the platinum division? The way the scores are set up, it looks like it's designed to move states gradually into that tier.

[cinder patrol]

Gold and platinum, I would say. And yes it’s likely designed for most to end up there because once you just occupy your own hub in platinum, you don’t get points.

[uneven halo]

Yeah, my alt is in a state that's going through a period of self reflection, seems like they're going to aim to drop into gold and stay there by occasionally not defending the hub.

[cinder patrol]

I’m not sure how sustainable of a strategy that is

[uneven halo]

Me either. But apparently it's the way to go to reduce our chances of meeting hq38-40 that will crush us. And we can use the other states hub to shield our own, then give it back before we take the hub completely.

I guess it means if I want to plan an ace push, I need to find out which WK we are planning on throwing away, and aim for the week after.

[cinder patrol]

Just an FYI that turret attacks on your hub if the other state takes a turret from you will still happen even when it’s shielded

[uneven halo]

I know, they even attack you through the shield, if they are occupied by a different alliance from your own state.

[obsidian needle]

We did this in our state it works

[cinder patrol]

Most states don’t want to move into Diamond it seems. We have big 40s and such but we don’t ever keep the other state. We just get points and then leave.

Trying to stay down low is more trouble than it’s worth

[livid gazelle]

We've come up against quite a few states with 40s. Most are more than happy to make an agreement.

[uneven halo]

The most fun i had in WK was the time before last, mains state napped with both states but 100K marches with no troops above t10 to towers were ok. First time I've ever maxed occupation, kills, and casualties. Even got the stylish frame.

Apparently, alt's state don't want to be agreeing naps? I think. The idea of deliberately choosing not to be able to activate state boosts, or give out state titles, seems odd to me.

[cinder patrol]

Yeah I dunno. Losing isn’t the worst but I would only like to do it when necessary.

[livid gazelle]

I really enjoy getting to know the personality of the other states. Make WK and Valiant so much more fun

[quartz flame]

The only thing I want to know about other states is how many rss can I get

[livid gazelle]

Well, that's part of getting to know them.

[cyan geyser]

Is Wasteland Conquest alternating with Wasteland King or is it a separate thing?

[rotund niche]

It sounds like it replaces Wasteland King from the description. But I’m curious about the differences yeah

[cyan geyser]

I thought that at first but the new tech applies to both ... I'm wondering if it's like Alliance Clash and Res Wars

[rotund niche]

It technically says Zenith War and Wasteland Conquest which are two different events (since Zenith War is an internal war when a state first starts to determine initial governorship)

Though at this point, your guess is as good as mine lol. It does sound like the three Wasteland Comquest types would be on a rotation maybe? (Like how Clash and Res War are). Or just evolving titles by age

[cyan geyser]

Good call.

[mint fulcrum]

Sounds like they want states to play a full 24 hours

More diamonds and money spent

[rotund niche]

I already do… and pretty sure I’m funding gilded toilet paper for PnS staff lol.

[sage spear]

I think it will be a new event, or maybe become part of a rotation like when they added Alliance Clash to offset Reservoir War.
But I guess we will find out more in a few hours 😂

[mint fulcrum]

You have to have all answers Hillside. You’re the mod! 🙃😂

[crystal willow]

if it still starts at my 6am, it makes no difference to me whatsoever 😂

[sage spear]

I can declare an answer, but when it is a lie later, you might be more 😡😡

Lol

[sage spear]

Better than 4am. Lol

[rotund niche]

I stay up til NAP arrangements are made and Hub is full. Then 💤 💤 💤 for me lol

Wake up and all is on 🔥

[crystal willow]

yeah this is usually what i do: nap NAP nap

[sage spear]

That is what I tell myself, but last Wasteland I got excited and just got my frame done right away and then was too excited to sleep. Lol

[crystal willow]

lol kiddo

[sage spear]

Yeah, I’ve napped during a NAP and woken up to no troops before 😭

[rotund niche]

Hey, casualty points are worth the sleep.

[gentle needle]

So we will officially know how the event rolls when the update is done? As in will it replace an old event or rotation and all that

[sage spear]

No. We just know the same thing that was posted

[sage spear]

Depends on how full those infirmaries are before wasteland lol

[rotund niche]

I screwed that up last time… forgot I was just under 300k in deep heal still before sending marches to fill. Oops…

All I can say is: thank god WK is on the last day of Ace. Troop building got me bride nova finally lol

[livid gazelle]

I've still got almost 400k in deep heal, some from the wasteland before last

[sage spear]

She isnt very faithful. She marries A LOT of other people every 2 weeks. Lol

[rotund niche]

I blame it on the amnesia. She’s a different person every day. (haha! Campaign throwbacks)

[crystal willow]

at least she does not take half of your 💩 when she goes

[sage spear]

No, she takes 80% of your stuff before you can marry her instead. Lol

[livid gazelle]

Only 80%? I was empty after the two times I got her, then never saw her again

[sage spear]

After she ran away on our first wedding night with 100% of my stuff, I was slightly less stupid the next few times I’ve gone back to her 🤣

[livid gazelle]

I dumped her and don't even try to get with her anymore. 😜

[sage spear]

You are clearly smarter than me 😭😭

[livid gazelle]

I've had my heart broken enough times to learn my lesson

[real zealot]

is the entire wasteland king system in place now going to be completely scrapped?

oh, scrolling up a bit it seems like my guesses are all as good as yours.

[livid gazelle]

Mods are trying to get clarification I think.

[real zealot]

Thank you so much!

[crystal willow]

i doubt we can get anything concrete before the actual update which is due in 14-15 hours

[arctic abyss]

So this is for wk not a new event

[livid gazelle]

I'm actually really curious to read the description when it comes

[crystal willow]

i just want the feast 🍖🍺

[keen fossil]

Do the new titles eliminate governor? Or will it be governor plus the three new titles?

[crystal willow]

i don’t think it is related to the SvS WK for governorship. but i could be wrong

[keen fossil]

It will be interesting to find out next svs

[hallow crown]

Can we post screenshots of a different game in here without breaking #📚sanctuary-rules ? I got the rules from Puzzles and Conquest

[quartz flame]

They have been posted here already

[hallow crown]

Alright, too much to follow up 😂

[crystal willow]

are you talking about you-know-what? 😏

[warped shadow]

Not really sure what the new updates mean. Can someone explain further?

[cinder patrol]

#🔱wasteland-conquest scroll up to the first posts

[dusk wren]

Not sure either but you must purchase a ticket to participate. So clearly this event was made solely with spending in mind. I have a feeling it will push the ones already thinking of quitting out further. This was a very fun game at first. Now it's a battle of wallets not participation.

[livid gazelle]

Or they could - like - just not participate? WK and VC are still going to happen as well it looks like. And maybe there will be ways to win the tickets?

[sterile spade]

The new research for wasteland is only available to 35s and higher?

So the t9s and t10s that participate get no extra boosts?

[cinder patrol]

It’s an opt in event. The only one that requires a ticket. I think people will be okay.

But also #🔱wasteland-conquest is the place to talk about it

[white totem]

Hi, I have a question about the wasteland contest

Do we get our troops back the end of the event or they die?

[crystal willow]

same as wasteland king, 70% will be put in your own infirmary, 30% will die

[white totem]

@crystal willow thank you

[arctic abyss]

When we buy the tickets is it just for the timed event or is it for upcoming events in the future

[sage spear]

Unfortunately, we have no clue 😭

[arctic abyss]

Thank you sorry I posted here just saw the new room for this event

[sage spear]

All good 👍

[crystal willow]

can we buy spectating tickets?

[cinder patrol]

Are you into watching 👀

[fresh prairie]

👀

[crystal willow]

👀

[livid gazelle]

👀

[cinder patrol]

He never answered

[livid gazelle]

I think he did, just not out loud 😂

[warped shadow]

👀

If wlk will still happen then what will it be for, and how often will it be? I think most people are hoping for once a month with valiants in between.

[cinder patrol]

It’s still happening regularly. It’s on the upcoming events. It’s twice a month already with valiant in between.

[warped shadow]

So, we have more events?

[sage spear]

Yes, this is in addition to existing events

[warped shadow]

Ok thanks

[hasty steeple]

No

[warped shadow]

Thanks man you have a the answers

[cinder patrol]

I mean we can’t. It was true.

[teal quarry]

👀

[covert maple]

Squirrel

[teal quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-surprised-jump-gif-8602711

[covert maple]

thats me running away from a sped up attack coming for my HQ haha

[toxic torrent]

@teal quarry @covert maple You naughty ones. Go to #🎯off-topic-chat 🤣

[teal quarry]

Sorry all I read was naughty

[covert maple]

I tried to make it relatable by having a squirrel attack my sanctuary👀

Let’s say squirrel March on way to tower. t2 cars only no heroes

[toxic torrent]

That's better

[covert maple]

If all else fails #blame @summer quartz

[fading prairie]

😮 i need a hedgehog march! please. thanks. even if its only during WK.

[covert maple]

How cute (during Wk 👀) would that be!

[cinder patrol]

I’m gonna kick your ass (during WK)

[teal quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/natalie-dormer-apples-smirk-flirt-bring-it-gif-15411632

[uneven venture]

What are the criteria for pairing states in WLK?

[fresh prairie]

State grade and trophies I think

[cinder patrol]

Yep

[brittle juniper]

I heard there are changes to WLK. Can someone tag me to them?

[fresh prairie]

Might be thinking the new event. That has the name wasteland in it.

#🔱wasteland-conquest

[brittle juniper]

You are right

[brittle juniper]

Thank you

[elfin tendon]

Where can I get the form that everyone fills out for participation in Wasteland Kings. Very new state and my alliance is hosting this one. Any help greatly appreciated.

[fresh prairie]

There’s a form? Just take screen shots of everyone who joins your alliance.

[sage spear]

Forms are too complicated. Just show up and fill buildings and have fun 🤣🤣

[elfin tendon]

Thank you

[cinder patrol]

States make their own form

[cinder patrol]

That’s not really viable when you have a WK nap or you’re trying to not plan at the last minute. Especially in a new state. The older it is the more you learn people’s stats but in a new state that’s just going to be a disaster

[elfin tendon]

I understand that completely.

[fading prairie]

No it isn’t! It depends on who makes it! 🤣 plus it helps with organizing …and im extra

[elfin tendon]

But I am in 4 states and 3 have the same form. That's why I asked.

[fading prairie]

Take the form the other 3 and recreate it for the 4th.

[sage spear]

My point is simply none of those charts have ever worked for my states. Too many variables and too many real life differences. Easier to just make it happen rather than spending hours on plans that wont come through as expected.

[elfin tendon]

Understand

[fresh prairie]

Our only plan is which troops go where and who leads the tower

Turrets

[fading prairie]

…and to know who’s available and when Once the event starts…. It’s FFA 🙀

[fresh prairie]

😂😂

[cinder patrol]

That’s fine. But they also work for a lot of them. I can offer a direct counter to your experience: they have worked in all my states.

[inner sable]

Zaps the fun out. Excel spreadsheets when I’m not getting paid? I’ll take a hard pass. Play the game for fun not to do homework

[warped breach]

I was told that match ups are made based off damage done to the destroyer. Which I think is weird buuuut here I am asking anyways…

I know it’s based off trophies and state grade but does the destroyer have anything to do with this??

[livid gazelle]

Common rumor that gets brought up every so often

[sage spear]

Completely false

[warped breach]

Thanks guys!

[cinder patrol]

I like sign ups ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I like organization

And if we didn’t have them then smaller and medium players probably wouldn’t think they could participate because we have a lot of big players

Makes it known and embedded in state culture that literally everyone matters

And space will be made for all

[thorny jackal]

Is Faith on need to report for svs

[sage spear]

This is the general game discord. Were you looking for your state discord?

[thorny jackal]

Yep state 200

[cinder patrol]

You should probably ask in your state chat for your state discord

[thorny jackal]

Will do thanks

[hearty spoke]

@sage spear can you check it is wasteland today please as message just said zenith war in 60 minutes

[pliant apex]

@hearty spoke why does he need to check, it's always wasteland on saturday?

[hearty spoke]

Because last big update changed wasteland to a zenith

Don’t want the same mistake happening again

[pliant apex]

oh, I'm pretty sure that was a one off...

and we had advanced warning

the reason that messed it up was because the state matching system got messed up

this update was nothing to do with that

[hearty spoke]

Maybe but when it posts saying zenith war in 60 minutes instead of wasteland in 60 minutes like normal it worries me

[minor terrace]

https://c.tenor.com/2crKC0rsbcIAAAAM/mr-bean-funny.gif

[fresh prairie]

Plus how can hillside check? He doesn’t have direct access to devs….

[hearty spoke]

Thought they might I’ve no idea what a pns mod does

I stay out of this channel generally lol

[pliant apex]

the mods have weekly report they take to the devs on issues reported, otherwise the devs hide

I think that's an accurate summary of the situation, anyway

[fresh prairie]

Sounds about right

[hearty spoke]

That’s what is worrying me why is it saying zenith war

[lapis cosmos]

It's always said zenith war

[crystal willow]

it always says zenith war in this rolling text

[sterile grotto]

Hi what is the occupation time before a turret attacks a Hub?

[fresh totem]

If I attack a turret do my vehicles heal

[crystal willow]

70% of them will be wounded and 30% die

[ivory fable]

the wasteland kill count doesn't seem to work properly
people are sacrificing a lot of troops
yet the tower captain kill point is not increasing
why is that? 🤔

[crystal willow]

killing T1s gives 0 pt

[ivory fable]

t9s t10s are also zero now

[crystal willow]

kill rewards? or kill points? kill rewards are maxed very quickly. but you should get more total points still

[ivory fable]

kill points are not adding up

[crystal willow]

screenshot pls?

[ivory fable]

like 3 mins ago

captain got no kill points for this

[crystal willow]

screenshot of the point screen?

[ivory fable]

he stuck on that

[crystal willow]

maybe the leaderboard is not refreshed in real time? wait a while and check again?

[ivory fable]

some other attacks, ok i check later as well

[crystal willow]

thanks. and if still no change, i will report this as a bug for you. please @ me if that’s the case.

[ivory fable]

i will thanks

[sage spear]

Are they in state attacks or out of state attacks?

[ivory fable]

within same server

[crystal willow]

ah, then it gives no points. you only get points for killing foreign enemies. good catch @sage spear

[cinder patrol]

10 minutes

[sage spear]

No kill points for your own state troops

[ivory fable]

ah so when 2 players from same server collide even at tower there is no points

[sage spear]

See the chart kazumi posted above. It says Foreign Troops

[ivory fable]

👍🏻👍🏻

[sage spear]

You get casualty points, but not kill points for in state attacks. Part of why it is stupid to attack your own state.

[ivory fable]

thanks for the info 👌🏻

[sterile grotto]

Thanks

[modest lance]

Same here no kill pts

Used to get previously for instate attacks though

[sage spear]

Only during the first 2 Zenith Wars in state. Not for Wasteland King.

[stray star]

I am not getting full casualty points for attacking turret in a foreign state. Already sent ss to CS, the answer back did not address my complaint.

This is what I sent.

[sage spear]

You only get casualty points for the KILLED amount, so 53257 and 48500 troops. What tier troops were they?

[stray star]

T3 and t9

Ok. I thought it was for the total casualty. The cs answer still didn’t address that, but I know now.

[flat kernel]

How long a turret fire at hub?🧐

[sage spear]

CS answers on gameplay questions are usually wrong at best. Lol

[cinder patrol]

After it fires, it will happen again in 10 minutes.

You should get a report if you’re in it. And it tells you.

[flat kernel]

Thanks

[iron lake]

Hi, anyone has any idea on how the tax works when your state is being taken over?

[cinder patrol]

You already pay the tax for every transport and every sanctuary raid. So instead of those taxes disappearing into the ether, they will go to the conquering state’s coffers.

You will notice literally nothing different.

[iron lake]

Thank you! No wonder i cannot find any taxes being paid

[stray star]

So it’s not just my experience. Lol

[honest summit]

if a governor was appointed by accident is there anything that can be done to correct

And change governor

[fading prairie]

Nope and Nope. Once appointed, they’re Gov til next WK. If that Gov were to leave the state… your state will not have a Gov and/or will not re-appoint a new one

[honest summit]

Ok thank you

[stiff kite]

After all the states got into peaceful status with 8consec hours occupation…is there still way to get deaths that would count towards the 300% training boost?

[fresh prairie]

Don’t think so. Need to attack hub or turrets.

[cinder patrol]

Nope. Like was said, you only get the boost for that by attacking hub and turrets

[stiff kite]

Thank you both 🙂 need to find a way to rotate out of hub duties at some point then

[cinder patrol]

Yeah. Or don’t NAP haha.

[jagged light]

When doing the super reinforcement, does the troop type matter? Or only troop tier and number

This is my boost

So i was wondering if troop type matter then why did coalblack kill less people than AOI

[atomic mural]

Was it a fighter enemy? Also all your stats will apply so riders will get your rider stats

[lofty lagoon]

If my state conquered 2 other states as governor am I able to select who the governor of the other states is or not?

[jagged light]

It was some trucks. But if that's the case then shouldnt those riders do way less damage than the fighters?

[fading prairie]

No those two other states just don’t get a Governor, titles and state boosts. You get their taxed RSS though.

[atomic mural]

Partly wrong. Highest might in the conquered state is a defacto governor and can apply the boosts. Not sure about the titles.

[sage spear]

They can’t turn on boosts or titles. They can simply adjust the hq level for immigration, if the base level is still lower than hq40 for the state.
The 300% Fast Comeback comes on automatically, all other boosts will be inactive for 2 weeks

[cinder patrol]

No boosts.

[atomic mural]

We've had it happen, we actually planned for it in the scenario where our state was conquered. Yes boosts.

[cinder patrol]

When? Because we didn’t have a governor and had no boosts.

It wasn’t possible

[fading prairie]

🤨 you sure? Cause if there isn’t a Gov to activate the boosts, then how can it be activated? We too experienced when we lost hub AND when we took over another hub.

[atomic mural]

Highest in might applied the boosts. This happened in s246. I'll see if I can get anyone from there to back me on this.

[fading prairie]

But that would then defeat the purpose of needing to protect your hub if you can still apply boosts after you lost 😅. Then there’s no reason to fight for it. Just let another state take over cause YOLO…no need to lose troops, organize a plan and wake up for it when you can still activate the boosts. 🤨

But if you do find proof of this, then okay.

[wind wind]

The comeback boost launches automatically if you have no governor. Perhaps this is the confusion?

[cinder patrol]

Why hello Dizzy

FANCY SEEING YOU HERE

[wind wind]

I’m around

[fading prairie]

Yes. Which Hill has mentioned on his reply above… but still continues to argue that the boosts can be activated 🤷🏻‍♀️

[wind wind]

Mmm. Mystery state. 👍

[atomic mural]

I mentioned it in 2 posts, you're all acting like mods don't give incorrect information ever. Unfortunately on this occasion its been so damn long since I was in a losing state that I can't source the proof. Guess I should start screen shotting and recording everything as it's the only way anything is accepted. I'm not a complainer, I offer help and good advice in the various rooms. So next time before ye gang up on someone to be the cool kids just think for a minute that maybe JUST maybe there's a possibility that person is right.

However. I can't provide the proof so ye win. This time (shakes fist)

[fading prairie]

We’re not “ganging up” on anyone. We’re answering the question best to our knowledge and our experience.

Unfortunately for you, 3 of the answers counter yours. So, rationally, people would lean more towards the more commonly said answer.

Maybe someone out there has also experienced what you did if you were right. But as of now, the feedback from players and mod lean towards that you don’t get to activate boosts if you were to lose you hub.

[fresh prairie]

You don’t get boosts or titles. Never been like that.

[cinder patrol]

Nope

[candid copper]

Hi all, I have a question. If state A is conquered by state B, the one of highest might in state A can change the HQ lv for immigration?

[sage spear]

Yes, within the standard rules of the hq levels in place.

[candid copper]

Thank you

[still kernel]

Does anybody have an idea of how much you lose in “taxes” when you lose your state? Specifically any taxes that are above and beyond the taxes and losses that normally occur (even if you keep your state).

[cinder patrol]

@still kernel here

There is no change

[still kernel]

Thats helpful, thanks. I’m doing a mental exercise of seeing what would happen if my state just figured out a way to get points through occupying the other state while losing our own state and not winning any other state. It seems silly but I wonder if that’s a good strategy to be well placed for valient over time. The only downside seems to me that states that are too weak might be too depleted to get good stuff from for valient. The whole boost thing to me doesn’t seem like a big deal.

[cinder patrol]

Boosts can be a pretty big deal to some. It’s also a lot harder to not occupy your state than you might think. Another has to agree to take it or you’ll likely be batting off people trying to occupy it and if they get the most time, you’re stuck with it anyway. What league are you in?

[sage atlas]

So I believe in the song know when to hold it know when to fold it

If your in a good state and working together as a state a . Your state should have an idea right off the rip if you'll have a nap or not battle chat helps with that a little :)

If you know there is no way to get your state back at all you should determine quickly weather troop loss is worth it or not most strong 40s are $$$ and don't care about healing troops

[cinder patrol]

That doesn’t mean the other states will willingly take it. For example, we have a lot of strong players and we don’t want to take other states.

[sage atlas]

But you cab force it on them

Can

[cinder patrol]

Yeah I’m aware. That happened to us this weekend. But that’s 1) shitty and 2) more trouble than it’s worth

And you also can’t force it if they simply do not come to your state

So again, keeping people out of your hub is the challenging part

[sage atlas]

If they don't come then there is no conversation right lol

[cinder patrol]

Also if you force a state to take your hub, you all but guarantee your state ends up blackballed for NAPs going forward because nobody is going to trust you. There are discords for that kind of stuff where states converge and talk about these things.

[sage atlas]

If the states being a jackhole forcing the state on them isn't crappy

[cinder patrol]

Your idea of being a jackhole is someone else’s version of just playing the game. We occupied their hub to protect our own because last time we faced that state, we left it unprotected. And this time it was also just in response to a tower of ours being cleared. So it’s never very cut and dry. No one side is really ever completely just the victim. We looked mean to them but to us they weren’t the good guys either.

[sage atlas]

Example some decked out 40 hq comes wipes hub with t1s

Recalls and rallies with his being t7s

[fading prairie]

…that’s called strategy 😅

[sage atlas]

Maybe fun for them

And im not here to steal there fun from them

And to counter there fun you force the state on them strategy

;)

They move up a bracket not to be seen lol

[cinder patrol]

I mean there are states that do that but like I said, is it worth the potential blacklisting? Especially if you’re a well known state, you tend to not do that.

People talk

[sage atlas]

People always talk

Lol

[cinder patrol]

Right. But that talk could mean a lot of grief on your state going forward.

Diplomacy is also strategy ☺️

[sage atlas]

Depends on the state your up against lol

[still kernel]

Blacklisting due to what? If you don’t make a nap, what’s the problem?

[fading prairie]

But if you’d do agree to a NAP, you’d expect the other states to adhere to it right? WRONG! 😤

[still kernel]

Lol. I actually haven’t experienced big mistakes with nap in wk (as opposed to res war where it happens a lot) let alone anything intentional. Usually it’s some dummy sending some weak troops when the deal was for cars only or something like that. Not really a big deal. Have you seen anyone try to really intentionally break wk nap in a big way?

[fading prairie]

More than once. 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah. RW/Clash really does tend to be just someone who hasn’t read their mail 😤 or some stupid excuse. Usually dealt with and move on. Usually. Once in a while. Not so much 🤣.

WK broken NAPs tend to always be hectic.

[still kernel]

I agree. I think it would be pretty challenging. I’ve also never tried so don’t have experience. I think what we’d have to do is have the big guys in alignment and worst comes to worst knock our own state people out of hub.

[still kernel]

Interesting. I’ve never seen it but it would certainly be annoying! I just think if you didn’t want to be in nap just don’t agree. We do that a bunch because we want the fight. We spend about the first 10 mins looking at our opponents and making a collective decision. Not sure that I see the incentive to make a nap just to break it.

[fading prairie]

So that the state gets comfortable, people go offline, people start occupying just for the points…. Just to break nap and take the other states Hub right. before the 8 hours so that your state can be safely under a bubble and you can concentrate on getting the other.

[still kernel]

Got it. Well that would suck. I guess I’ve been lucky not to experience that.

[fading prairie]

knock on wood 🤣🤣🤣

[still kernel]

Lol. Yep. The place where we’ve had issues are areas of ambiguity. For example, we make nap with state 1 but want to fight state 2. Then state 1 attacks us in turrets of state 2. Is that a violation? We typically don’t cover that issue in our nap conversations but it’s been annoying.

[fading prairie]

Unless it’s discussed. No. 🤣
the NAP is for your hub and turrets.

If you expect them to extend that to the 3rd states hub, you best make it as part of the discussion. But why would you? That’s the fun part 🤣🤣🤣 your hub is safe, why not battle for another?

If you think you have a chance with the 3rd state, why wouldn’t they?

[still kernel]

I agree.

[cinder patrol]

That wasn’t the situation but I’m not gonna get into it here.

Just because it’s a lot lol

And also the drama isn’t gonna be helpful

[still kernel]

Haaa. I hear you.

[fresh prairie]

I agree. I just sit back and watch

[grave plover]

Ok I just wanted to throw this idea out here. Ok so WC gets a feast every day right. Why not do one for WK the day after for all the states that fought each other. Like for example 148,132,23 fought each other ok. So you would do a feast that following day after WK . And so on with the other states.I think this would be a good way to get more ppl involved in wk and help those who fought out some. Just an idea.

[atomic mural]

I'm not buy anything for anyone in another state if they've beaten the crap out of me for 8 hours

[grave plover]

It’s not about that I mean like throw rss out instead of the other stuff they do in WC feast. Would everyone out to rebuild and repair wounded. They do it for the WC victor and you go that don’t you?

[atomic mural]

I know what you're saying, Wk can be a bit more personal tho as you're defending your own Hub. The hubs in WC are open spaces.

Also, I would buy. I'm nice. Lol

[sullen lark]

We did, we agreed on a NAP, had a fairly easy 5 hours, then one alliance in one of our opponents decided they were being disrespected because we weren't attacking their turrets, so they took our hub. The person I made the arrangements with for the NAP couldn't do anything to stop them and we simply couldn't hold them off. That was a miserable day.

[indigo flume]

Will there be no fast comeback buff if our state loses the hub ?

[fading prairie]

Fast comeback does activate even if you lose hub. You just can’t have any of the other boosts for 2 weeks

[indigo flume]

Ty sis 👍

[still kernel]

Oy!

[ebon magnet]

Is there any truth to the rumors of a global wk coalition headed by S75? Or is it just hearsay?

[livid gazelle]

Global?

[fresh prairie]

?

[livid gazelle]

Across game states or worldwide IRL

[fresh prairie]

I’m hoping in game. Don’t want anyone burning my house 😂😂

[cinder patrol]

What do you mean coalition

[livid gazelle]

Probably another rumor like the one that said multiple states are going to burn

[cinder patrol]

I mean there are a couple of servers out there

But idk what they mean by coalition

[livid gazelle]

If they don't come back with more info I'm going to say it's just a rumor

Maybe someone in S75 can clarify

[ebon magnet]

In game, thought it was brought up many months ago here, didn’t know if it ever took off. Someone in game mentioned it today so thought I would ask

[cinder patrol]

I need clarification on the word coalition and what you mean by it 😆

Like in what sense? To do what?

[ebon magnet]

Agreement

[cinder patrol]

For? Some servers already exist that do that sort of thing.

[ebon magnet]

I’m sure it’s very few based on wasteland king results every two weeks. Just had to check to see if it existed, thanks.

[hollow belfry]

Does anyone have a good layout for filling in the mud? This is what I have so far. Option A or option B. Thoughts?

[worn kelp]

LOL we don't have any options,we just fill all of it😅

[hollow belfry]

Lol. I’ve seen many ways. Personally I like to leave the mud open and fill as much green. That way invaders have to spend a lot of speed ups or port to mud and get hit….people are afraid of getting matched with a mega hq40 that’s untouchable so they want to fill the mud.

[sage spear]

Leave a 1 row gap around the hub first and it will take 1 less row of hqs to fill.
(Or better yet, don’t fill your mud for wasteland)

[indigo flume]

That's a nap based group of powerful players for wlk event only

[winged vessel]

We never fill ours either, if someone wants to hit your hub etc they will

[cinder patrol]

We have strong players and we still fill ours

[atomic mural]

We decided a few WK back not to fill. A heavy hitting 40 smacked the hub with 2 minutes left on the clock. Not cool. Unfortunately for them we returned the favour and proceeded to smash their turrets to pieces for 4 hours after that.

[unborn beacon]

To whom it may concern. Can we please adjust the state boosts so the aide can start them. Time zones are all over and sometimes they can’t be started at reset. Allowing the aide will have a better chance of two time zones to allow proper timing

[unborn beacon]

As do we it makes big players burn their diamonds up if they want to be stupid

[cinder patrol]

Yep. Although a lot of them don’t speed up lol

[cinder patrol]

Put it in #💭closed-game-suggestions where it’s more likely to get put into the reports

[inner sable]

Ive never seen a giant hq 40 not speed up. Lego hit from green in under 3 seconds. No time to get out. And andrew has done the same from way back in the green. We used to fill it very proper like and it never mattered when going against the top tier players. (Spenders). Actually we noticed the closer they are the less likely they sped up. Giving us more time to kick afk players and get out ourselves.

[cinder patrol]

We have fought a lot of big players who don’t speed I guess. Like they might a tiny bit? But not super fast to make it impossible.

[queen holly]

What's the best way for a state to defend their turrets? Fill the mud or make camps around the green as far back as possible?

[fresh prairie]

Camps work. Mud also works. But opens up people to be attacked when their shields fall.

[sage spear]

Realistically if they are strong enough to clear your turrets, they will do it from anywhere.

[rough aspen]

Hey guys

Regarding wasteland grading : if you keep your hub for 8 hours there is no change in points , but what if we didn’t occupy hub for straight 8 hours and won by max time

[cinder patrol]

You still won.

[rough aspen]

Yea but what about total trophies if you are in Diamond tier

[cinder patrol]

It doesn’t matter. The occupation it’s counting is the winning of the hub. So however you won, if you state owns the hub, you won. It doesn’t mean occupying during event. It means who is occupying at the end.

[rough aspen]

Yea I mean we own the hub

[cinder patrol]

So yes. That’s occupied by you.

[rough aspen]

But my question was regarding total points

Is there deduction

As mentioned no hub occupied in Diamond tier you loose 150 points

[cinder patrol]

Yes.

You lose 150 if all you occupied is your own

[rough aspen]

Okay

Thanks

[quartz flame]

The system seems to funnel everyone who doesn't take hubs in platinum

[fringe ivy]

Does anyone know how many t1-t3 s people should build for there first zenith ?

[cinder patrol]

For what purpose? To attack turrets for points?

[quartz flame]

100 billion t12s is good for 1st zenith

As many of your strongest troops you can

[white ember]

found the PnS shareholder

[quartz flame]

37IE is publicly traded I believe

[cinder patrol]

Why are you not rich

[quartz flame]

Well...

I'm trading my AMG in for a Taycan soon as it comes in...

[fringe ivy]

Yes

[cinder patrol]

I don’t know an exact number but a lot. Depending on your march size, I would say at least 2 marches full.

[smoky mortar]

300k, then after you end up accidentally taking one Turret and it Dubsmashes the Hub, wait till they are weak and take them out too… you’ll be the new King around them parts.

[quaint plume]

Just get rid of feasts

[vocal pivot]

The players that "PAID" to enter Iconic, or any other Wasteland King event, should have a secure spot in the Feasts.... This would only be fair....
Without us participants in Wasteland King the event would not be... Please make this a must in future events...

[fresh prairie]

#💭closed-game-suggestions

[livid gazelle]

I bought a ticket for Iconic, killed 2 marches and held a turret for 2 seconds. I made one feast and missed one and guess what - who cares? I got some free stuff.

Sorry, adding this because it came out angrier than planned. I hope you get into one. But I don't think anyone should expect it

[vocal pivot]

Sorry, if I offended you, honestly I believe very few things in this game are "free", I just shared my opinion in What I believe to be "Fair" for the participants.

[livid gazelle]

It's not offensive, and I do understand the frustration, but I'm okay with not getting in if it means someone else who can't afford to throw a few bucks at the game can get some free stuff

[short umbra]

This whole feast thing was just not a great concept can't introduce something without running it through test servers me personally have attempted every single one and have yet to get any at all

[cinder patrol]

Get rid of it because you don’t like it?

[vocal pivot]

My suggestion was, Participants enter without consumption of "a spot".

[cinder patrol]

That would suck for people though. What if your internet kicks you off? I think 30 minute rotations is better. The buying falls way off after the first 10 minutes anyway.

So every 30 minutes admit a new group.

[short umbra]

Problem easily solved by no limit max the profits would go up exponentially if was case

[cinder patrol]

That would be an absolute disaster for the servers and the amount of lag…you might as well just throw your phone in a bowl of water.

[short umbra]

With all the money spent on this game by people upgrading their servers to foster that amount of accounts is easily obtainable

[cinder patrol]

If you say so. This also has nothing to do with WK. belongs in #🔱wasteland-conquest

[twin basin]

During wk does super reinforcing last the same amount of time or does it last 8 hours

I forget off the top of my head

[atomic mural]

Same amount

[cinder patrol]

Same. It will expire if you set it from the beginning, about halfway through

[twin basin]

Appreciate it

[white totem]

About the 300% boost what would happen if after WK I jump to a new state do I lose it in the new state because I had WK in another state or it transfers?

[cinder patrol]

You would lose it

[white totem]

Alright thanks

[paper glacier]

I have a question about the transfer of governorship following Wasteland King. Our state has peacefully agreed to new governor, we want to make sure the transfer happens properly. Is it as simple as the person holding the hub at the end of WK becomes the new governor? Or is it more complicated somehow? New-ish at this, would appreciate your perspective.

[winged vessel]

It automatically goes to the R5 of the holding alliance after two hours of your hub being secured or the R5 can assign anyone as gov before the 2 hours. Hope that helps

[paper glacier]

So, when the hub is secured (8 hr or longest continuous) there are two hours where there is still not a governor. The R5 of the Alliance holding the hub has 2 hours to assign someone to be the governor, otherwise they become the governor in 2 hours. Did I get that right?

[winged vessel]

Yep that's correct 😊

[paper glacier]

And The R5 of the holding Alliance can pick anyone, it does not have to be someone in their alliance?

[winged vessel]

Yeah that's right, they can pick anyone but I'm sure they have to be in the alliance holding the hub

[fading prairie]

I don’t think this is meant for here 🤔 🙅🏻‍♀️

[cinder patrol]

You have to be in the same alliance to assign governor but then they can leave.

[sharp niche]

Hi guys,
I am doing my first wasteland king today and would like to know what happens to the troops because I have not been playing longer and am only around 65M might.

[fresh prairie]

Attacks on hub and turret. 70% go to infirmary 30% parish.

[sharp niche]

Thanks, Kazumi. In idle land, I can't be attacked unless I am occupying either hub or turret, right?

[fresh prairie]

You can also be attacked if your in the wasteland. (Black area). Whether collecting rss or hq

[sharp niche]

I was told to leave the black area. I am now in the green area. My HQ can't be attacked as I read in the event description. Is it right?

[fresh prairie]

Yes. You are correct.

[worn kelp]

If we are not in the alliance,can we still attend the feast?

[fresh prairie]

Yes.

[worn kelp]

Thanks 😊

[timber spruce]

How many players can you get in the towers?

[atomic mural]

Depends on rally size and everyone's march size. Also the tech of the holding alliance.

[potent star]

Do I get 300% comeback even other state take our hub?

Who's going to active the 300% comeback

[cinder patrol]

Yes. It’s automatic.

[potent star]

Thanks

[halcyon prism]

Do we know if the feast will kick players out of the hub/towers if we join?

[cinder patrol]

It won’t.

[halcyon prism]

Thanks

[vivid solstice]

How does 2 news states get matched with the same pirate alliance that won all three hubs last wasteland??

[buoyant mauve]

New states usually pair with the same states twice. Then will have different states to face

[lapis cosmos]

My state has the same pairs as last time too lok

[white totem]

We havent had the same states but then again we keep popping in and out of Diamond.

[atomic mural]

Isn't everyone in platinum? I thought lower tiers were empty.

[cinder patrol]

Not newer states

[atomic mural]

Until they are lol, Rule 1, stay in platinum, Rule 2, STAY IN PLATINUM.

[sturdy python]

I don't believe comeback is automatic. The governor normally has to activate it

[cinder patrol]

Yes it is.

If your state is taken, it’s automatic.

If you keep your hub, it’s governor activated.

[sturdy python]

Interesting, didn't know that aspect

[cinder patrol]

Yep yep. I didn’t either, until my state was conquered.

[livid gazelle]

Well the festivities have died down

[sturdy python]

Good to know that points and troop improvement can be made even in a defeat

[cinder patrol]

No more parades?

[livid gazelle]

Nope. They reset our hub so we reset theirs

[cinder patrol]

Oh jeeze

[livid gazelle]

And now it's quiet

[cinder patrol]

Long day :/

[livid gazelle]

Yep

But they have to share in it

[cinder patrol]

Good. Glad you dragged them with you.

[livid gazelle]

They wanted a fight, we gave it to them

[cinder patrol]

[livid gazelle]

🤣

[white totem]

Boring wlk week. They aren’t even trying…. Just whining in battle chat

[merry ivy]

anyone else show gov as pending when they won their svs?

[cinder patrol]

Did you assign the governor yet?

Governor has to be assigned. You have a two hour window.

[merry ivy]

it will not allow us to click anything and assign

[cinder patrol]

Can you DM me a ss?

[cinder patrol]

Leaving it

[livid gazelle]

Mine has been way too spicy

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/tina-bobs-burgers-spicy-gif-7410306

[white totem]

Don’t try to nap with 189. They broke it as soon as their hub was safe

[livid gazelle]

Damn

We traded resets with one of the states we're up against

[white totem]

Sounds like fun. Lol

[livid gazelle]

It's been festive. I'm so ready to be home

[mossy aspen]

@everyone

I have question hope to be answered. If another state holds the hub is there a tax on attacks from sanctuary to sanctuary attacks

[mossy aspen]

Ok thank you

[cinder patrol]

This isn’t true.

[cinder patrol]

There is always a tax on raids and transports. Always. Even when you’re not conquered.

[fresh prairie]

30%

[mossy aspen]

Ok

[fringe isle]

Wtf? I hit a tower about 10 times and spent diamonds to speed knowing I wasn't gonna win and I got kills but no rewards

[quartz flame]

T1's?

[fringe isle]

No

[fringe isle]

Ive got the reports

[cinder patrol]

You get taxed though. Your message said there was only for transports. That’s not true.

The taxes exist all the time they just go to the conquering state when you’re conquered. But you’re always taxed on every raid and every transport.

And those do go to the coffers

[fringe isle]

This is BS

[quartz flame]

Post them

[fringe isle]

Here? Not worth it tbh. It's more hassle than I really want. It's easier to give up while I'm ahead

[cinder patrol]

You can’t get help if you won’t share them so we can see what the deal is

[fringe isle]

It never helps anyway idk why I came here

[cinder patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-friend-farewell-so-long-gif-25205750

You came here with a problem and then when we try to help you say there’s no point 😂

[livid gazelle]

What just happened?

[cinder patrol]

Someone came with an issue and didn’t want help and then blamed us for not being helpful lol

[white totem]

No clue because they ran away before fully making the issue clear

Maybe went back and looked at the reports and realized what happened??? Ran away to save face?

[livid gazelle]

Maybe

That was odd

[keen quarry]

Anyone else getting matched with the same states more than 2 times in a row? We've been matched with the same states 3 times consecutively! Thinking of putting in a ticket to cs but wanted to get other's opinions on it first.

[cinder patrol]

It does happen when you stay in the same bracket.

[stuck tartan]

Hello, I'm still learning the game. I had some troops of mine get killed in wasteland king battle. They seem to be missing. Not in alliance infirmary, my infirmary or deep healing. Are the perm dead? I was under the assumption they go to deep healing.

[potent star]

If our state lost in WK, what tax do we have to pay?

[lapis cosmos]

It's all the taxes that usually go to the abyss

Aka the 30% hit fee and whatever transport fee you have

[sage spear]

Up to 30% of your troops are killed and dead from turret/hub battles. Attacks on rss spots and hqs in the mud follow standard casualty rules.
That is why you get the Fast Comeback to help retrain the lost troops.

[livid gazelle]

So I'm sure there is nothing that can be done, but the game lagged when the R5 was trying to assign a governor, it kicked him from the game to reload the screen and assigned it to an inactive account. Is there anyway that CS would be able to help for that or are we SOL?

[fresh prairie]

Only option is to contact CS and hope it works out. 50/50 chance.

[livid gazelle]

C/S told him that they can't change the assignment. But they also made it sound like he intentionally assigned it to the account. I told him to let him know that it was because of game lag, and warned him he was probably SOL.

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. Sol

[cinder patrol]

That sucks. That long day all for someone inactive to be governor ☹️

[livid gazelle]

Yeah I had somebody complaining to me about it. I'm not even in the alliance that was hosting.

[white totem]

Except I had to contact cs. 2 rss hits 100% casualties and 1 rss spot 48% casualties…..

[fresh prairie]

Rss tiles will always show killed. However they are not actually killed. False advertising

[white totem]

Even though it shows 52% wounded…. Odd. Hard to really tell though since my infirmary, deep heal and alliance infirmary are almost full after the war 🤣🤣🤣

[fresh prairie]

Lol.

[white totem]

Wish nano potions didn’t take so damn long to generate

[cinder patrol]

they want you to spend those 💎💎💎

[livid gazelle]

Just pretend those troops were killed and when you go back you can heal a bunch

[fringe isle]

Just pretend nothing ever happens in the game and wait til they blame it on nova

[livid gazelle]

What does that have to do with nano potions?

[fringe isle]

Absolutely nothing, im just spreading the word....prepare to get used in every way

Were all tools here

[livid gazelle]

I've been playing for a long time dude. I know how it works.

[fringe isle]

I'm chiming in for the noobs

[livid gazelle]

And every other phone game and multi-player game is the same. If anyone tells you different they're full of it.

[fringe isle]

Ok for 1 happy mothers day😘 and 2 I never tried to pick a fight, I dont know what the deal is I just know I got screwed this wk

[livid gazelle]

I'm not a mom, but thank you. I'm not looking to pick a fight either. I hope you have a wonderful day.

[white totem]

I was born a tool but that’s beside the point. Has nothing to do with healing or wlk at all. Please post to #🎯off-topic-chat

[atomic mural]

If you're in the same state then you are 100% affected by this, sick of seeing numerous responses from Cs doing jack 💩 about serious issues that are brought to them. Who do we escalate too when we receive useless help?

[cinder patrol]

They won’t change or interfere with who is governor because it’s too easy for people to lie. It would open up a can of worms. It’s easier to just say no and keep it no for every situation. Their job isn’t to involve themselves. They also aren’t the developers who created it this way. They just respond with how they’re instructed to respond.

[atomic mural]

It's gotta be pretty easy to investigate whether or not gov has been assigned to an inactive account. It's bs, you know it, I know it, everyone who has either quit the game or stopped spending knows it, AND, If you press them (cs) on an issue they roll out the same get better Internet bs and send you a 200 diamonds gift code. I appreciate your response but you didn't actually answer the question of who can players escalate to.

[cinder patrol]

Because there is no one to escalate it to

[atomic mural]

Exactly, it's bs. There no consequences for Cs. Only the players, the choice is stark, suck it up or quit.

[cinder patrol]

And again, with tens of thousands of players and hundreds of states, sometimes you have to just make blanket decisions and keep it uniform. It’s sucks but it is far too much to investigate every single claim of a wrong governor choice. They would have to check each and every single time.

[atomic mural]

So they shouldn't do it because it's time consuming? Heck why bother with Cs at all then? Just provide a broken link instead, same result.

[livid gazelle]

Or in our case we're just trying to see if we can get them to activate the training boost for those of us who lost a bunch. The titles and the rest don't matter as much

[atomic mural]

The 30%? Or the fast comeback? That sucks.

[livid gazelle]

Fast comeback. We have the 30%

We had a NAP with one state but the other one wanted to fight. After about 6 hours the hub and my turret were the only two that hadn't been kicked out. Then they got the hub so a bunch of us jumped over to their state and took theirs

Honestly, it was a great time for a lot of us. And the state we were against was a ton of fun in chat

[atomic mural]

I have a question, yesterday it was stated that a player needed to be in the same alliance as r5 to be assigned gov. How long is that player inactive? This is why inactives need to be kicked.

[cinder patrol]

You seem surprised that this is how companies work. Path of least resistance and least amount of effort. CS is about highest quantities. Helping the most the fastest you can. Allocating time and resources to investigating each claim like that is a lot. It’s not efficient. Efficient is saying “it’s just not possible”.

Like don’t mistake me saying how it works for agreeing with it lol. It’s just how big companies operate.

[atomic mural]

I really don't know why you're defending Cs here and why you're arguing with me about it. Cs are terrible. There's no argument against it.

[cinder patrol]

Again, I’m not defending it. I’m explaining why it is the way it is.

I know gerber fought a lot yesterday

It sucks that they don’t have an active governor

And it is very much not fair

And CS won’t change how they operate

[livid gazelle]

I have no clue how long they were inactive. But it's also not my alliance so I can't say why they're still there.

[atomic mural]

I know why it is the way it is, I didn't ask you. Moving on, I hope you get somewhere with this Gerber.

[white totem]

Question…. Why use an alliance to host that the r5 is inactive? Tell the alliance that if they want to host they need a leader who is active.

Just my 2 cents

[cinder patrol]

The r5 wasn’t inactive

[livid gazelle]

It's not the R5 that's inactive. He accidentally clicked the wrong person because of lag and people leaving the alliance after wasteland

[cinder patrol]

It selected an inactive player

[white totem]

Oh. Gotcha. I misread. Sorry

[livid gazelle]

people were leaving the game froze up and then it selected a different person from the one he clicked on

I've had that happen when using resources and other things in my bag

[atomic mural]

He should get better Internet 😉 😂

[white totem]

I did that once. When I went to another alliance for wlk…. Meant to appoint my farm as r5 and lag made me choose someone else who was offline for a week bc of surgery

[livid gazelle]

Too soon man, too soon

[white totem]

And that’s with my 500mbps internet…. So game lag. Not on my end.

[livid gazelle]

I have 400 down 20 up. The thing people keep forgetting is that the speeds are not guaranteed in the US unless you're using a dedicated business plan and that wifi will always be less consistent than hard wired.

[white totem]

I am on a dedicated business plan. WovenWood is not just a name. 😉 and I use hidden networks for everything so nobody can piggyback. Unfortunately there is no way to hardwire my iPad or phone but everything else I have is hardwire. I don’t even use smart devices (aside from my tv)

[livid gazelle]

So you're the exception to the situation. Wifi can still be an issue, however I know there's lag bad on their end. I just blame it on the sharks eating the underwater internet lines again

I wish they would upgrade something to make the lag less

[white totem]

Absolutely… even my network at home is set up like that. Commercial BA system and all. My home is more secure than most businesses. 🤣🤣

[cinder patrol]

Server communication is 🗑 on their end

[white totem]

Damn sharks….

[livid gazelle]

I want to lock down my house so bad. But that would guarantee that I have to troubleshoot way to many people problems with the people who live here

[white totem]

It’s easier than you think. Throw out the residential junk and get a rack setup.

[livid gazelle]

I don't have the space and the people I live with are technologically inept.

[white totem]

A few hundred ft of cat 6…. A designated poe switch and then just tell them plug into the wall or don’t go online

🤣

[livid gazelle]

The house is old and only 2 wire, so when the electrical gets updates we're going to definitely get cat6 run. However I think we should take this to off topic

[sharp niche]

Hi guys,

I have a question on a strategy applied during our last event. The description says that the alliance that occupies the hub during 8 straight hours wins and if that does not happen, the one that occupied for longer time wins.
During my first event, an experienced player strategically suggested that we retreat from the hub and turrets after an occupation duration of more than 12 hours and yet she said that we will later have to prevent the enemy from taking our hub 8 straight hours, otherwise we would loose. At that point, I am lost because in my mind that contradict the event description. I have tried to come up with an explanation of my own and the only thing I could come up with is that the game favours the enemy occupation time more than yourself. Is it right?

[livid gazelle]

If the enemy can sit in your hub for 8 hours without interruption that will allow them to win even if you had two 6hr stretches

[minor sleet]

If you occupy for 8 straight hours it’s over.

It automatically bubbles and kicks everyone from hub and turrets too

[sharp niche]

Basically it means you either sit there for more than 16 hours so that the enemy cannot get to 8 hours straight afterwards or you keep taking it back every time he takes it from you?

[livid gazelle]

If you hold it for 8 hours uninterrupted you automatically win

[fading prairie]

Beat me to it 😂

[livid gazelle]

If at any point during that they take it those 8 hours start over when you get it back

That's what happened to us yesterday

I think we were at 6 or 7 hours when they kicked us

[fading prairie]

…and if no one gets it for the 8 hours straight… whomever gets the max time overall gets it.

[livid gazelle]

Then all our biggest players went over there and did the same thing to them

[fading prairie]

…did that yesterday 😅 …we kicked someone off theirs when they were 15-20mins left of their 8 consecutive hours.

[livid gazelle]

It was so satisfying to reset their timer after they did it to us

They were a lot of fun through the whole thing

[fading prairie]

Priority is to always secure yours first before attempting someone else’s. If you need to occupy someone else’s to secure yours… then do so.

[livid gazelle]

They said they didn't want to keep ours. Cuz they don't want to move up.

But we also didn't want to be the only state with an active hub

And I got invited to move

[fading prairie]

I didn’t. I didn’t even get snacks 😭

[livid gazelle]

I always try to share snacks

[atomic mural]

Most of platinum don't want to move up

[livid gazelle]

We're not big enough to move up yet

Had a shooter send two 476k + marches at my rider turret and chuckled as nothing came back

So it was satisfying

[atomic mural]

Whole event needs an overhaul in my opinion. I got hatemail yesterday for resetting turrets. It's literally the event.

[livid gazelle]

I don't see the reason for people getting mad. Unless a NAP was agreed upon

But this state didn't want one, so we fought and defended

And made new friends

[fading prairie]

Which is why sometimes it’s worth spontaneously going after someone’s hub, sacrificing troops and just… having fun with it…. and still honoring NAPs if you make one if you have no intention of keeping the NAP, then don’t make it.

I don’t know why it replied to this msg when it was supposed to be another.

[atomic mural]

Never break nap.

[livid gazelle]

I've let people send a full t11 march at my turret if they dropped their heroes. A lot of us are willing to adjust agreements on the fly too

I figured yesterday was payback for me complaining about the week before being boring

[atomic mural]

Lol, we haven't had a boring one for a while, nap 1 fight 1. Thought we might have had a boring one yesterday but turned out alright in the end.

[livid gazelle]

That's what the state who hit us did. We all NAP with 1 state and then the two of us duked it out

Was A lot of fun and I lost 70m might

I'll find out how much permanent in about 2 days

[cinder patrol]

They really have no way of contacting that inactive player? ☹️

[livid gazelle]

Doubt it I think he's been inactive for a while

[cinder patrol]

Blech. Sucks.

[white totem]

I dunno. One of the events we all look forward to just the way it is. The ONLY thing I wish they would change is the 29 hour March time to go 30km. Nothin like watching a car pass your riders as he goes to rss. Lol

[livid gazelle]

The alliance yesterday almost convinced me to start gathering flights

[white totem]

Who were you against?

[cinder patrol]

The one you were in?

[livid gazelle]

One from another state

[livid gazelle]

S84

[cinder patrol]

Oh the one you were talking to

[livid gazelle]

Yeah. I love chatting during events

[white totem]

Absolutely. I love the battle chat…. Most of the time. Once in a while you get people who take it too seriously and use it to throw hissy fits

[livid gazelle]

The best part is when you start to ignore them it makes them even more mad

[cinder patrol]

We had a few hissy fits yesterday from one of the other states

[livid gazelle]

The state that got the nap threw a couple of fits about their turrets getting hit a little harder than they liked

I kind of laughed at them

[cinder patrol]

lol

[brave pier]

Always keep flights in your bag... U can't never know

[livid gazelle]

I have 5

I need 50 to fly...

[brave pier]

I used to always have the amount of flight to go away and go back to the state I was leaving...
Been awhile now🤔

[livid gazelle]

I considered visiting this other state, but don't want to leave my crew

[jolly token]

This last WK I tested out my defense by sitting in the mud...including getting smacked by a rally. Lol. It was a good time.

[cinder patrol]

Ouch

[winged cypress]

140 tickets is steep though. Enough to fly once sounds good in case of a Disney invasion. 😂

[brave pier]

Damn Cat, wanna send some here? XD I need to stock more because forgot bigger the hq, bigger tickets u need 😂😂

[hasty nest]

Ta gra schodzi na psy. Dostanie sie na uczte graniczy z cudem. Sekunda i proszę czekać w kolejce 2 sekunda limit uczestników 0 miejsc

[cinder patrol]

#🔱wasteland-conquest please.

[thorny kindle]

Start a farm there

[woeful cobalt]

<@&742285797725569104> Why does S320 always match up with S311?

[latent granite]

Many reasons

[woeful cobalt]

Care to elaborate? This is like the 5th time in a row we've matched up with them

[latent granite]

Trophies is normally the main reason

Rankings also I believe counts

[woeful cobalt]

It needs to be restructured or something then because what fun is it to always go against the same people

[latent granite]

Without offence u want different states then b more aggressive

[woeful cobalt]

Be more aggressive? We've been in and out of legend Ranking and 320 is tiny

[latent granite]

Taking another's status hub will move u up in the ranking but will also mean u nnay meet some of the beast states if u go high enough

Or go more passive?

[woeful cobalt]

Faced these guys in Legend and somehow they're not on the alliance might leader board 🤔

[fresh prairie]

Because they are Chinese . Change your language and look

[woeful cobalt]

There's several Japanese and other Asian alliances on the leaderboard? That doesn't make sense

[fresh prairie]

You showed global ranking for English.

There’s a global ranking for each language

[woeful cobalt]

Why is it like that? We're all playing the same game and the German alliances show on my rankings?

[fresh prairie]

I don’t know exactly why. I will ask around and find out.

[brisk chasm]

So what's the logic behind the states matching up? Break it down

[woeful cobalt]

Actually I'm wrong on that I just seen where they said translated from German and didn't notice the primary language portion

Still seems dumb there's multiple "Global Rankings" based off of nationality or language

[latent granite]

Honestly I don't know the exact breakdown of it all I jus know what I've said

[brisk chasm]

Ty for your response though

[latent granite]

Np if I get more info I will pass it on to u

[cinder patrol]

You are matched within your division. If there are not enough states in your division, you will likely face the same ones. Or, in some cases, if there is not a number that is evenly split by 3, you’ll face 1 other state or maybe 3 other states instead of 2 others. So essentially, until more states get to legend (which most are trying to just avoid diamond), you’ll likely face the same states continuously.

The way this division business has worked out means that a lot states will actively avoid securing another state’s hub so that they don’t move up in rankings. The way the system works, it basically forces you into platinum. And that’s where everyone likes to stay.

We got pushed into diamond two WK ago and the hope is to lose points to fall out and back to platinum.

[brisk chasm]

Thank you, we have a few states in the diamond league, just wanted to understand out of all of the diamond league how do we get.the same 2 states 3x in a row. And I agree the concept of states not wanting to take hubs because they don't want to move up, I don't blame them really.

[brisk chasm]

Really appreciate you responding back though, ty 🙏🏾

[cinder patrol]

Yeah there are a few but the way the generator works…it’s just likely you’ll see the same ones. But a few states have gotten pushed up recently so maybe there will be more mixing up now. I would rather not face y’all again 🤣 but I’m in a stronger state now so maybe won’t be so bad haha

It would be nice if we could see the states in our grade

[brisk chasm]

Bless, we learnt our lesson lol we got out of legend quick fast. Happy for you though 💯 we'll jeep an eye on it & see how we go. I did ask CS awhile back because it's happened before & J understood their explanation but confusing that it's happened again. Ty again 😊

[brisk chasm]

It gives you your standing in the last WK I think, go to WK event, click Leaderboard, click history rank, click State Trophy

[cinder patrol]

Yeah. It just happens unfortunately.

[cinder patrol]

Does it? Shows how much I snoop around there lmao

[brisk chasm]

That's how I know & sm still confused 😂

[cinder patrol]

Oh okay I see now. Only shows top 100 though. If we could see everyone that would be cool. Also sucks, all the states we could face in Diamond 😂

[brisk chasm]

Lol 😂 it sort of keeps us in our points range which is interesting

[cinder patrol]

I think your points might be a factor then. Primarily it’s grade that’s considered, then your points. RW/Clash work the same way.

[lapis cosmos]

Haha you stuck in this spinny mess too

[brisk chasm]

That was my understanding too, but it becomes repetitive. I'll keep an eye on it.

[brisk chasm]

Hi Blue lol

[lapis cosmos]

Hi sulu 🤣

[brisk chasm]

Just hassling the poor Mods about our never ending dejavu 😂

[lapis cosmos]

I heard we got stuck together again due to our rank 🙃 let's see how long this ranking lasts lol

[quartz flame]

I've gone against the same state 5 out of 6 times, 4xs in a row

[brisk chasm]

It gets worse? So how'd you guys get out of it?

[quartz flame]

It stopped in its own

[white totem]

Nobody knows the math 100%. When a state is new after zenith wars are done it’s new states against one another in wlk…. After that it changes based on what tier you get into based on wins/losses and war performance within those tiers as well as overall state might and I am sure a few other factors. I don’t know what percent each factor represents in matchmaking or how they process the information to come up with the matches. 75% of the time it seems mostly fair. The other 25…. It’s either you’re against overpowered states or on weak and one equal or strong…. To the point where the matches seem to make no sense at all…. None of us are privy to their algorithm so there isn’t a soul on here who can say for sure.

[brisk chasm]

Thanks for this

[white totem]

I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve faced the same states. Got to know half of s62 just from having to play against them.

[brisk chasm]

I know right they just become an extended family 😂

[white totem]

Exactly. I met Jethro Tully and Baka over a year ago…. And have probably gone again’s them 20 times or more

[cinder patrol]

[cinder patrol]

[quartz flame]

Lol. Out of context it looks like you're making fun of yourself

[cinder patrol]

I just like having the emoji

[gentle needle]

Hello 👋 Do we have to lose our state hub entirely to lose our grade points or just let another state take our hub on that day within a min or so to lose our points?
Asking for a friend of a friend 😵‍💫

[atomic mural]

Lose entirely

[gentle needle]

Oooh 😮‍💨 thank you

[atomic mural]

I think the rules as outlined cause confusion because it counts 1, 2 and 3 hubs. WK is mostly versus 2 states. So people will count their own hub as 1 which is not the case.

[gentle needle]

Yes it was definitely the rules hence why the question was relayed here for anyone in the PNS god to answer just to confirm. Appreciate the feedback Hoff ❤️‍🔥

[cinder patrol]

What grade are you?

[fading prairie]

🤣🤣🤣 not sure if this simplified it. But it worked when I tried to explain it to someone else.

[cinder patrol]

That is a lot easier lol

[gentle needle]

Gold

[gentle needle]

You are the best 😱❤️‍🔥

[fading prairie]

Hopefully it makes sense! Took a while to understand it too since I wasn’t familiar with some states going up against 3 other states so I was calculating thing wrong too.

[cinder patrol]

Basically, avoiding platinum is impossible. The grades are designed to push you there from the bottom.

[gentle needle]

Avoiding is impossible for now, but to drop down a grade level might take some time too 😂

[cinder patrol]

A lot of losing 😂