👑wasteland-king

[willow osprey]

Okay this is my first time hosting zenith how do we appoint governor? I'm sorry I know it's a stupid question.

[spiral moat]

The person who is over the hosted alliance has to appoint that person

They pick gov then select through or find their hq in game and pick appoint through there

[willow osprey]

We couldn't find where to actually click to appoint gov

Lol we found it though, thank you so much!

[spiral moat]

That’s good and that’s good

[spiral moat]

You’re welcome 😊

[smoky grove]

Right?! Is this a new thing

[vivid hazel]

Hi, I have a question. What happens if players from another state win the occupation of the technology hub at the end of the wasteland king event? Are they forced to move to the state they are occupying or what happens? Thanks in advance🙇‍♀️

[spiral moat]

No they are not they just have control and get a percentage of what you all gather and can distribute it to their people in state, but nothing really happens .

[spiral moat]

You don’t have to move to their state and they don’t have to move to yours. 😊

[quartz flame]

They're gov now. Nothing can be done

[quartz flame]

You loose the benifits of having a gov. No tiles or boxes. The state that won get a small amount of rss that come from the transportation taxes you pay on rss. They don't stay in your state or have any say. Highest might player in your state can set immigration

[sharp coyote]

They don’t get anything from what you gather, only from what you raid from sanctuaries or transport to Allies. So you don’t actually lose anything more than you always do (since that tax always applies, just usually goes to the void)

[sage briar]

What 3 states? Why didnt you let us know while it was happening i was so bored lol

[sharp coyote]

It‘s still going on. Just look at S75

247, 305 are the other two

[crystal willow]

liar. nothing going on there

[sharp coyote]

Well, there are no shields yet. So yes, it’s going on…

[fresh prairie]

👀

[spiral moat]

Them three states still going at it

[primal stag]

how

[rough aspen]

Hello everyone I have a quick question

Do you not get state boost for the units killed by turrets from missiles ?!

[winged vessel]

No you don't unfortunately

[cinder patrol]

newwwwwpppppp

[sleek wedge]

Only direct hit towards turrets or hub grant you 300%. Either you win or lose your hub you gonna get it😌

[cinder patrol]

That wasn’t their question. They were asking if deaths by turrets when in the hub count for fast comeback. They do not.

[neon atlas]

Wait the turret kills dont count towards fast comeback??

[cinder patrol]

No. If your troops in the hub are killed by a different alliance in the turrets, they don’t count as might lost for fast comeback

[unkempt ibex]

just wanting to confirm that when a win in wasteland will be based on total occupation time, rather than someone holding for 8 consecutive hours, that you have to wait for the full 24 hours of the event to finish before a gov can be assigned?

[cinder patrol]

Yes

[neon atlas]

Comeon...another WK i dont get get boost fml

[unkempt ibex]

Cool, that means I can nap for 7 hours 😂

we’ve got 12 hrs total time and ensured no one else can get 8 consecutive so I’m good

[cinder patrol]

Yeah as long as they can’t get 8 straight hours or go over 12 hours then you’re fine

[cinder patrol]

Your troops were in the hub and killed by turret attacks?

[neon atlas]

Yes😕

[cinder patrol]

Ah. Yeah that’s not good. We did that once and it wasn’t worth it. Lost too much. Sorry ☹️

[neon atlas]

So lost almost 30m of T9s...love it🙄

[mystic frigate]

How does the match making work for WK?

[mystic frigate]

Oh. Duh. 🤣

[crystal willow]

it works like 💩

[mystic frigate]

You’re not wrong.

[idle gust]

I’m hearing a few states went up against 3 opponents as opposed to 2. Anyone else have that experience?

[toxic torrent]

If the number of states in the bracket cannot be divided by 3, it will either have a 4 states against or a 2 states against.

[cinder patrol]

Can we pin this because it gets asked all the time lol

[fresh prairie]

It will still get asked 😂

[cinder patrol]

But then I can say

[toxic torrent]

Like always🤣

[crystal willow]

yup. instead of pasting the real answer, you will have to tell them to find the pinned answer 🤪

[cinder patrol]

Make them do a little work for it

[cinder patrol]

411 lost their hub to 408 😬

[sage briar]

All with hq26s 🤣

[final maple]

Next time they meet 406, lol

[sullen lark]

Am I wrong that the Aide is supposed to be able to award boxes, or is that a Governor only thing?

[crystal willow]

only gov. aide can help assign titles.

[sullen lark]

Thank you.

[bright smelt]

408 I think had the help of a player with 900mil might

[white totem]

Prince Charmin

я видел его один раз. если количество штатов в кронштейне не может быть разделено на 3, он либо будет иметь 4 способ или 2 способ.

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[trim hazel]

Hello all. I have a question about super reinforcing a turret or hub… do ALL of the captain’s boosts apply to ALL types of rallying troops? (Regardless of which heroes the captain occupies with?)

[crystal willow]

correct

[trim hazel]

@crystal willow Thank you!! So to be clear, let’s say we have a hub with mixed troops in it, all the strongest riders, strongest fighters, etc in the state, and a captain who’s a strong shooter/weak rider/weak fighter…

If this captain sends an awesome shooter march because she has awesome shooter boosts, and she super reinforces, she will override other players’ individual rider and fighter boosts with her weaker rider and fighter boosts?

I always thought that super reinforcement applies the captain’s occupying heroes’ boosts to the rest of the players in the hub 😳

[broken oak]

When someone super reins the rest of the tower gets the captains buffs and boost

So it's best to slap troops that the leader is strong in

[crystal willow]

that is correct. so, if captain is only focused on my troop type, other players should reinf with the same troop type. otherwise, super reinf could actually make the whole defense weaker than normal reinf.

[trim hazel]

If we had to put mixed somewhere because we don’t have enough players available, it would be the hub right? We just skip super reinforcing?

[crystal willow]

no, hub should be the strongest defense your state is able to mount. usually the captain should be the strongest player with the whip. and other players join with the troop type that the captain is strong at. and captain should super reinf in the hub.

and if your state don’t have enough participants, i would strongly recommend you try to come up with a NAP deal with the other states. otherwise, it will be very bloody.

[gilded cypress]

The 2nd Zenith Hub war, is that where other states can come in?

We had our first Zenith Hub a week ago where it was all in state.
The next one is in a week.
Is this when it opens up to other states?

@crystal willow

[crystal willow]

i think there are at least two zenith wars before it changes to wasteland king. i might be wrong though.

[sage spear]

Yes, each state has 2 Zenith Wars before they become Wasteland King against other states.
State immigration opens between the first and second zenith.

[gilded cypress]

Okay, thank you

We are getting hammered by an alliance that declared war on is because we attempted to go for the Zenith Hub.
and left us out of the NAP even though we are the #2 alliance in state

Apparently we're not allowed to participate in the event according to them

[crystal willow]

things change when wasteland king starts. the state should better work together with all the strong players helping out. otherwise, you will be doomed. the two zenith war cycles are intended for new states to sort out their internal affairs and face outside enemies with united front. if your state cannot do that, i would recommend you find a better home.

[gilded cypress]

That's what we said.
I just told my alliance we could all shield up and watch them burn if they want to be like that.

Because they'll have players stronger than they are come in

[crystal willow]

well, good luck

[gilded cypress]

Ty

[cinder patrol]

If there are a lot of new players, you wouldn’t know to do it, but in my experience it has been best to work out who is going to take control of the hub before even the first zenith begins. Like weeks in advance. That way it minimizes the fighting between the strong alliances. There will always be small ones who attack but it’s best for the state that the big ones aren’t legitimately fighting.

They’re stupid for leaving you out. They’ll find out what a bad decision that is.

[acoustic sedge]

We already met last week

[fresh prairie]

Now it’s time to go burn them.

[acoustic sedge]

Its up to him at HQ40

[gilded cypress]

I hope so. We literally are the second strongest alliance in the state and they declared war on us and announced it on the state Channel.
No one hit us except them.
I don't know what they're going to do once wasteland king comes around.

[crystal willow]

curious which state?

[gilded cypress]

423

We just changed our alliance name, but you can see the announcement to exclude us from the NAP on the Zenith Hub still

[crystal willow]

your state looks pretty vacant… and the top alliance (IAM?) does not seem strong, either… when wasteland king starts, your state will be in trouble…

[cinder patrol]

They’ll face other new states first. Hopefully they’ll learn.

[crystal willow]

yeah. but when people can immigrate, it’s less likely they would move to a state with drama. those strong nuka builds like stable and nurturing environment. and that will make a big difference in SvS strength.

[sage briar]

Dont know what to tell you but immigrate

Our neighbor 334 was nap2 for 4 months and nobody is left in there now lol they dont care and theres not much reason to care, they got all their shiny hqs

[gilded cypress]

Yes, IAM we changed from MSW to WeR Strength in Unity.
We are brand new.
They haven't attacked for a few days and we are hoping it's settled down. But we'll see.
I appreciate everyone's help and advice

The problem with Immigration is we have a couple players with level 30 HQ now and we would have a hard time getting them in anywhere newer

[cinder patrol]

Go to a state your own age

[mossy rock]

our alliance has been asked to host WK. I am considering it, but our alliance is young and I have no experience in this area (determining players needed, where to send them, etc). how is all that set up? any help would be appreciated

[cinder patrol]

Is this your first WK as a state?

[mossy rock]

no. my first WK as leader of an alliance in rotation for WK

[mossy rock]

2 of the top alliances left the state putting us in rotation

[cinder patrol]

And nobody from your state is helping plan it out? I can offer some advice but the leaders in your state really should come together to help whoever is taking lead.

It’s the best long term

But anyway, captains should have best attack and defensive stats, troop is best but if not, then for their specific troop type. They also need to have as large a rally size as possible. You can collect this information through a Google form and then decide who goes where.

We collect information on troop tier, troop type, march size (both boosted and not boosted), march might, and rally size

If turrets and hub are super reinforced by captains who have best stats, you don’t really need to worry about stats of the occupants as the captain’s stats will apply.

Who to send where is a trickier question. It depends what your state has.

[mossy rock]

they have offered, but they just sprang this on me this morning and there is a serious language barrier. one alliance is Russian, the others Japanese and neither like the other...lol

[cinder patrol]

Towers of one troop type are easiest but stats need to be really good because they’re vulnerable to their counter troop type. But mixed troop types (like a tower of 2 different types) might be more favorable, they’re just tougher because the captain needs good stats for both. Or good general troop stats.

You can pair up based on weakness. Rider with shooters. Fighters with riders. Shooters with fighters. Riders with fighters.

[mossy rock]

ok, so i would need to find out who from each alliance who would be able to participate, their stats and then figure out from there. are the stats for the hub and towers the same for all states (troop size max, etc)?

[cinder patrol]

What you can fit depends on the captain and alliance tech

But yes you need to gather information on who is participating

[mossy rock]

we dont have a lot of high lvl hqs. most of the states that have visited us for events are much stronger

[cinder patrol]

Make sure they get their rally size from setting up a lair, as that will include any boosts like from Agent X. In the hall of war, that’s not included.

[cinder patrol]

I can empathize. Just do the best you can with what you have.

[mossy rock]

thank you so much for your help!

[cinder patrol]

You’re welcome

[mossy rock]

PLEASE HELP!
Does anyone have the spreadsheet or a spreadsheet that is used for distributing troops among the hub and turrets that would be willing to share it with me?
It would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

[crystal willow]

how troops are distributed depends on each state’s own situation. usually the strongest player in the state should lead the hub, and depending on his/her best stats, other players just send troops of that particular type to the hub. and each turret usually also focus on one troop type. for our state, for example, hub is T12/T11 riders only, and two rider-focused turrets, one fighter turret and one shooter turret.

[cinder patrol]

I already explained all of this to them. I think they just want to see how it looks in a spreadsheet.

[crystal willow]

ok. i should have reviewed history 🙏

[cinder patrol]

Check your DMs

[mossy rock]

My understanding is that there is a spreadsheet out there that you put in players stats and it distributes the players to the hub and turrets in the most beneficial way

[cinder patrol]

No. It’s self made.

You get a spreadsheet from the Google form but you have to organize it yourself

[sharp coyote]

There are spreadsheets out there that do most of the hard work of figuring out who should go where for the organizers automatically. Just that those spreadsheets include so much time and effort put into them that the creators don’t want to share them with competitors (which every other state could be in the long run).

[crystal willow]

i can easily make a spreadsheet that can be beneficial to a lot of states: put 0 troops in the hub and all turret 🤣

[cinder patrol]

It’s not cheating it’s a bug. If you looked in the correct channel #🦗bug-hunt you would see that it’s a bug

[hollow blaze]

General question - does the Governor have to stay in the winning alliance for the duration of his rule?

For better insight, the Hub is rotated between the Top6 here, but if an alliance nominates somebody from a different alliance as Governor, does that person have to stay in the winning alliance for the 2 weeks?

[fresh prairie]

The governor does not need to stay in the winning alliance.

[cinder patrol]

They have to stay to get the title but then they can leave.

[hollow blaze]

Ty everyone 😁

[hasty steeple]

I have a question regarding super reinforcement: Do captains boosts overwrite all players percentages? For instance, in a mixed hub if a joiner has superior shooter percentages to the captains are they overwritten by captains boosts?

[river cape]

Captains boosts apply for super reinforcement. I rarely even send heroes to a turret or the hub because of this. If it’s. Rough WK I will, but not usually.

[crystal willow]

i found that sending heroes gives you some flexibility in case original captain leaves and you become the captain

[teal quarry]

Agreed since this happens more often than not in my opinion

[river cape]

Like I said, it depends on the WK. some are just peachy, boring but peachy. Others are rife with hub resets, turret take overs, etc. If it’s hectic, I do send heroes, lol. Better to be prepared.

[white totem]

#📚sanctuary-rules don't invite people to your servers via this one. Unless it's #✅alliances-seeking-players but then it goes in that channel.

[brave sandal]

Ok trying to learn this is new

[white totem]

Hill174

Хорошо пытается узнать это новое

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[white totem]

I have a plan

Comme je l'ai dit, ça dépend du WK. Certains sont juste peachy, ennuyeux mais pêcheux. D'autres sont des rifes avec des résets de moyeu, des prises de tourelle, etc. Si c’est habile, j’envoie des héros, lol. Il vaut mieux être préparé.

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Unsung

J'ai une question concernant le super renfort : Les capitaines boostent-ils tous les pourcentages de joueurs? Par exemple, dans un hub mixte si un joueur a des pourcentages supérieurs de tir aux capitaines sont-ils écrasés par les capitaines?

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[iron valley]

👍

[stone valley]

Hey everyone! I have 2 questions about WK.

1. Does the person taking governor have to be the R5 of the alliance who's controlling or do they only need to be in hub?
2. What happens if the Governor leaves the winning alliance and joins another? Does the player keep the title or does it stay with the alliance?

[cinder patrol]

They do not need to be R5 or in the hub but they need to be in the winning alliance. The R5 can assign it to anyone in the alliance.

The title stays with the person. You can get the title and then leave. It doesn’t do anything. It will just keep the winning alliance name next to their name in the hub when you check to see who is governor.

[stone valley]

Great! thanks 🙂
Also guessing that once it's been assigned it can't be changed until the next WK?

[crystal willow]

correct

[stone valley]

Thanks everyone! Great information

[fresh prairie]

I’m still waiting for my governor title 😂😂😂

[pliant kiln]

Wie wäre es mit einem Spiel weitem nap für dieses Ödland aus Respekt???

[umbral nimbus]

Has anyone else heard about the movement to have a game wide nap for Wasteland this weekend in honor of Andrew?

State 21 is in favor are other states supportive of this idea?

[mystic holly]

A game wide nap in honor of Andrew sounds like a fantastic idea and I honestly hope a lot of states get behind this idea. Just have a peaceful event in his honor is awesome

[worthy cloud]

Can we push for an Andrew6666 character ?

[hollow blaze]

Would be nice, but there will always be people not caring enough about other people, or paying respect

[cinder patrol]

But that’s not it. And that’s exactly the problem with this idea. Because if you want to show your respect by playing your heart out and fighting, people will say you’re not being respectful.

It causes judgment. Death is emotional and personal and people cannot be judging the way other people process it.

Some people need to go about their day as normal. Some need to pause. Some need to step away. Some need to cry. Some need to talk. Some need silence. Some need to get out their feelings of anger about it. There’s no one way and there’s no one respectful way.

[hollow blaze]

Agreed. Last Valiant one of the other states approached us to ask for leniency for a player that just lost her daughter. Our whole state respected it, sadly the third state just decided to destroy the memorial.

[cinder patrol]

That’s unfortunate and definitely going too far. Destroying it is definitely disrespectful and gross.

[civic bay]

La guerre du Zénith devrait être abandonnée par tous les états en mémoire d'Andrew6666

[white totem]

꧁༺.ℳaℱia ༻꧂BSA

the war of zenith should be abandoned by all states in memory of Andrew6666

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[lunar bay]

Once WK starts does the occupying state stop collecting transportation tax from us?

[dusk wren]

Yes

Once term is over all taxes stop

185 is also on board for not fighting in W/K

To honor a fallen commander

[thick hazel]

Well said.

[rancid halo]

S36 is in Favor of Gamewide NAP in honor of Andrew6666

[ornate palm]

Quick question about fast comeback… if we don’t launch it this weekend and use it start of the next ace event… it remembers our troop losses?

As long as we do it before next zenith Defense

[dusk wren]

Yes

And it will last full week

[sleek dawn]

As Gov of 135 I will say… As long as 135 is not attacked we will be following in a NAP. Andrew was a great player and I hated to hear of his passing 💔

[cinder patrol]

Fast comeback is 3 days. Not 1 week.

[quartz flame]

Even if you could, why? If you lauch it right away it's active durning Ace

You can't, it expires

[ornate palm]

@quartz flame if we delay we can start it for the following ace so it counts for the full week?

As opposed to just the weeekend

[soft quest]

As the Governor of s315, we send our deepest condolences regarding the passing of a legend.

[quartz flame]

It's only lasts 3 days

[ornate palm]

Ohhh did not know that @quartz flame

So it’s general practice to start fast comeback immediately after?

[quartz flame]

Yes, people want Ace points and their troops back right away

[ornate palm]

What about the 30% training state boost

[low ermine]

S200 also supports game wide NAP for SvS

[fading heath]

If you start the 30% one the Thursday after SvS after reset it will cover the Ace day the next week.

[scenic nimbus]

Hey all can anyone help me with a link to the nap server?

I left it and have no idea how to find it again. Please tag me 💪🤓

@quartz flame would you know where to find it by anychance?

[quartz flame]

I left that months ago. I'll ask and see if I can get it

[scenic nimbus]

Awesome thank you so much!

[distant ridge]

S365 supports game wide NAP for SvS

[brazen belfry]

Wich nap Server?

[white totem]

Why are you all supporting global NAP?
Andrew was a fighter not someone who hide under bubble. Fight without NAPs to honour him.

[gusty dawn]

We're not allowed to "go about our day as normal" as it's compulsory Wasteland King weekend.

[grave bluff]

People all show respect in their own way.

Personally I don't believe it'll happen game wide.

[white totem]

As someone who had his state multiple times during WK + considering my culture I think memorial in state is good. But global NAP isn't needed as he would have been fighting.

[grave bluff]

Im not disagreeing.
Simply answering your apparent rhetorical question....

[heavy sable]

Lol yes he would, literally would land within a second of event starting to take a hub ❤️ that’s when you kissed your hub goodbye for two weeks, and got drunk instead lmao

[white totem]

Yes haha exactly. Gave me a day off lmfao

[grave bluff]

I remember him when i was in 143.
He was the only 1b player at the time and was a 1 man state wrecking ball 🤣

[brazen belfry]

S81 / s118 / s148 accepted the NAP @wk

[ornate palm]

Does any other states have 4 way match up?

Is this new…?

[white totem]

That happens sometimes when there's not enough to match per 3 states

[main shoal]

So how does the match up work on Wasteland?!?
S376 with max headquarters of 30 versus S29 and S67? i mean why even have immigration policy? what the actual F?

[white totem]

It's grade system. If you're in the same grade you can be matched together

Besides s67 got nice people , I would like to be matched with them

[sullen lark]

One of our (NAP) matchups is asking to attack with 11’s so the 300% boost will be activated. I thought that was activated regardless. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

[unreal gazelle]

It is activated regardless

[fresh prairie]

It’s activated regardless. But they can’t use it if troops don’t die.

[sullen lark]

Right, but they don’t need it if troops don’t die, they can only replenish what they lost anyways, correct? Am I missing a loophole that would benefit us as well?

[fresh prairie]

Training troops faster and cheaper for ACE. And The casualty rewards as well.

[sullen lark]

Ok, I see that angle. Thank you.

[main shoal]

67 is conquering us 29 has NAP

[fresh prairie]

Conquer back

😂😂

[main shoal]

Will get right in that

🤣🤣🤣

[fresh prairie]

I see what you did

[main shoal]

I have reached my point on casualties no problem this time.

[fresh prairie]

Yeah. Some states are able to stay in a certain bracket. And dominate.

But it’s okay. Maybe losing will drop you down

[main shoal]

We have max 30 HQ. So we are just along for the ride. My get some tier 10s to rally against the 700k t11 - but that’s probable suicide too

Yep. Most disappointed about what VC will be like….

[white totem]

@heavy sable be nice to Sean

[main shoal]

All good

😁

[white totem]

Wish we could trade WK opponents

Give Doll to me

[heavy sable]

Me, nice? Have you met me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[white totem]

You can have any other state I have

[main shoal]

😂

[white totem]

BEST WK & VALIANT EVER WITH S67

Party in grey

[heavy sable]

Yeah ngl was def my fav valiant pairing 😍😍😍🤣🤣🤣

[sage briar]

I dont really understand this because you only get max 20%-30% deaths 70% you have to heal and send again to heal 70% again

It just seems like a bad trade? The max reward is just 200 training speedups

Can you explain what exactly to do?

[heavy sable]

If we never get to repeat our wasteland artwork, I’m going to be a sad panda

[fresh prairie]

Based off the might you lose. Wait to heal when this is activated. Majority of people send trucks.

[white totem]

Let's write CS to make sure we get matched lmfao

[heavy sable]

But jokes aside, I am actually being nice. I’m not even in game now. Let’s not talk about earlier tho 🤣

[main shoal]

This only works if you win your state

Right now s67 is holding our hub with 700k plus 11 tier… so i am not thinking we see the state boost of 300% fast comeback

So players may want to take that into account. When sending troops to die for he speed up, you need to be able to win the hub in order for the speed up to be used

[winged vessel]

Even if you lose your hub you still get fast comeback

[heavy sable]

Yup fast comeback will automatically kick in

[main shoal]

SWEET

[meager root]

Question about fast comeback. If prior governor only just activated it, what happens after WK is over? Will it reset and be available again?

[sterile spade]

Question: I was told when you take 3 hubs at the same time, it drops the shield on your home hub. Is this true?

[white totem]

Yes

[sterile spade]

What about if you just reset the 3rd?

Same thing?

[white totem]

Still will lose bubble as you did occupy the 3rd one even if it was just for a second.

[sterile spade]

Man, that's why I don't go big and always go home. Thank you. 😄

[meager root]

@white totem how could I find out the answer to my question. Do you know who I should ask?

[white totem]

<@&742285797725569104>

I don't know answer to your question, sorry. Maybe other mods know

[meager root]

Thank you so much

[white totem]

Or @sharp coyote , @cinder patrol

[meager root]

Fortunately it was not me that did it lol but I’m hoping a positive answer will calm some angry people

[quartz flame]

It's happened to me, I got additional points

[latent granite]

Not 100% sure was actived b4 needed or u mean does it reset for next wk? Because if the later then yes it resets itself if the prior again I dont know sorry

[meager root]

It was activated on ace training day so has some hours left on it. Question is after WK complete will it be available again. It will run out before WK complete if that matters @latent granite

[sharp coyote]

Are you seriously turning a lovely post about different ways of grieving the loss of one of the best players of the game into your petty whining about how unfair this event is that has always been an essential part of this game because you can’t gather level 7 tiles in peace? How low can you go…

[sharp coyote]

Yes, it will be available after WK again.

[meager root]

Thank you so much ♥️

[latent granite]

Yeah it will reset automatically as qjuh said

[mystic dune]

Anyone know why the tech hub is being shielded off and on???

[latent granite]

If I remember correctly it's to do with taking another state hub gives u a temporary shield on urs

Until they take it back I think

[gusty dawn]

I could start hitting tiles in the Wasteland- is that low enough?

[inner sable]

You’d actually be participating in wasteland. Instead of gathering time and time again in the black ,during the one event you shouldn’t gather there in, and expecting a different result. We’d be proud honestly

[latent granite]

From what I know of Andrew he would b proud of any1 who fights today because this is a war game the whole point of it is to fight and grow

[misty mesa]

he only gets 7s during WK then crys about it for days here. its got very old and slightly annoying

[tender flame]

Anyone knows if enemy state can activate fast comeback and other boosts for you if they take your state?

[winged vessel]

Fast comback is automatic and no other boosts can be applied

[tender flame]

Thank you

[winged vessel]

No problem 😊

[acoustic sedge]

We saw exactly the same states in WK as last time

[crystal willow]

our hub was secured 2 mins early

[gusty dawn]

I just want to not have to worry about this game every fucking Saturday or pay the price (NAP/RSS loss).

[white totem]

Then bubble. 3 day bubbles is a thing.

Pluss one day per week go gather lvl6 tiles

Not those in grey

Nothing will be lost.

You want to change event who was here before you even joined the game.

I play for 1.5 years and it has been this way and it will be this way. That's the soul of the game. The war part.

[gusty dawn]

Nothing will be lost if Zenith states were opened for those that don't want interstate invasions.

[crystal willow]

show us numbers to prove you actually paid any price. like the average you gather per day on a weekday vs on a Saturday, and the average time you spent on gathering on these days. it could be just your psychological assumption and not true.

[white totem]

I spend money on the game and I like WK/VC.

That's the only chance for me to get normal rewards for free

[sharp coyote]

Easy solution: don’t log in, so you don’t gather and hence won’t get tilehit. That way you won’t have to worry about this game on a Saturday at all.

[white totem]

Lol I haven't logged in anymore today due to my rl and I'm ok if I haven't gathered.

[zinc wasp]

Need help mods

[crystal willow]

some people want top on the gathering leaderboard, i get it. but the situation is the same for everyone in the state during WK and VC, so if you want too, you have to worry more about it and spend extra effort. it’s only fair

[white totem]

What's up

[zinc wasp]

I selected me as governor and the game made one of my r3s gov

I'm at the top of the list so I know I didn't pick them

[white totem]

Contact CS , nothing much mods can do

[zinc wasp]

Ok

I put a help ticket in

So I guess I wait

Thanks anyway

[white totem]

Yes. If people want to remove the thing that's basically the point of this game, maybe they should play different game.
2 weeks you gain your strength through all kind of events to show it during WK.

[white totem]

Sorry we cannot help more.

[sharp coyote]

I doubt that the gathering leaderboard got anything to do with it though…

[edgy oyster]

Loved this 🤣🤣

[crystal willow]

that’s the only rationale i could come up with… 🤷‍♂️

[cinder patrol]

They just want to farm and don’t like being interrupted even though WK and VC are literally the definitive events of this game

[visual arch]

I have a question, not sure if it's been ask already....but....here it goes.

If another state captures my home state's Tech Hub, will the fast comeback boost automatically be turned on for our state?

[sterile spade]

Yes

[visual arch]

TY🙏

[unkempt ibex]

this message was against sanctuary rules sorry mods

[cinder patrol]

lol

[fresh prairie]

👀😂

[unkempt ibex]

@gusty dawn i’ve been hitting blacktop tiles for the last 6 hours in your honour and i think i might have got a few of yours?

[cedar steeple]

WE got a love letter section on our aliance discord for beautiful message like that 😀

[unkempt ibex]

They brighten my day lol. i didn’t speed in they had 2.5+ mins of warning for every tile 🤣

[inner sable]

That’s an awesome idea!!! Lmao

[gaunt flicker]

Question about Fast Comeback - do you have to activate it before wasteland ends or can it be done after the conclusion?

[unkempt ibex]

can be done anytime, but it’s usually best to do immediately after so you have a longer period of ace commander to use it during

[gaunt flicker]

Thank you

[edgy oyster]

Yeah, but only once the event concludes I think. Like even if your hub gets taken, the boost doesn't activate until the event actually ends

[visual arch]

Thanks. It was activated as soon as the invading state captured our Tech Hub.

[cinder patrol]

It activates when you have no chance of winning.

[cinder patrol]

Oh really? I don’t recall ours doing it so soon

Maybe it did

[tight mural]

Cannot remember if the fast comeback has been activated already and meantime I receive or send an attack against turrets, does it add in or not?

[quartz flame]

it should keep adding until WK ends

[crystal willow]

so sometimes it should activate as soon as the matchmaking is done 😂

[cinder patrol]

Lol I mean with the timing 🤣

[edgy oyster]

Our comeback didn't activate til I logged in the next day 🤣

Then again.. I think it's been a few months since we've lost a hub, so I can't say I have the latest information on that 👀

[edgy oyster]

We both nubs

[cinder patrol]

Ours was 6 weeks ago

[torpid matrix]

Do the taxes go to the governor of the state or just to someone who conquers your state?

[sage briar]

The governor of the conquering state

[teal quarry]

The governor gets the coffers in which he/she can distribute however they wish

[pliant jolt]

I have a question. I sent low level t1 to t7 troops to a tile to get killed so I could get casualty points for this event. However, the tile was hit but non of my troops died and were only injured. I did this twice and ended up with 0 casualty points and a lot of wasted rss to heal the wounded. What did I do wrong?

[fresh prairie]

Sent them to rss tiles. Units don’t die actually at tiles.

[white totem]

Don't heal. Let them infirms full lol

[pliant jolt]

@fresh prairie @white totem thanks

[dusk wren]

Casualtie points are for hub and turrets only. HQ, or tile hits will not count towards fast comeback. Neither does units killed by turret fire.

[sharp coyote]

While they don’t count for fast Comeback they do count for casualty points. If they actually die…

[dusk wren]

Only HQ attacks yes

No casualties from tiles

[sharp coyote]

Or tilehits when the infirmaries are full

[dusk wren]

True didnt think of that but dang That's alot of troops in Infirmary 😂

Would be a month + for me

Of healing

[sharp coyote]

Only if you built your infirmaries right. It’s not much with just one infirmary 🤪

[dusk wren]

Yeah I don't care for casualtie points so never thought of it. They are a byproduct of war

[sharp coyote]

You either got very big infirmaries or need to work on your healing speed boosts. I’d need 1.8M troops in infirmaries to have a month of healing time… not to mention the troops I could heal every day with Instant Heal talent

[dusk wren]

😂 Maxed Infirmarys all at 35

Tech and Nova maxed

For my level

But I will dig deeper on that one

I have that every Res War and alliance clash

[sharp coyote]

Well, but there your infirmaries don’t even matter…

[dusk wren]

I know but still check time to heal

[tight mural]

Oh yesss I did a test, thanks!! 😊😊

[solemn sage]

Question. If another state sanctuary is parked half on the green and half on the mud - can they be attacked?

[manic venture]

yes

[random leaf]

Yes

It will tell you when you relocate that you are in the mud

[peak crag]

hi guys

[crystal willow]

if it touches the mud, it is counted as on the mud. same for res war, except for that it is safe zone on the mud instead.

[quartz flame]

you'll get attack

[half basin]

<@&742285797725569104> <@&742286202601996299>
Our Zenith war just started but it says all rewards are claimed. What to do?

[fluid fractal]

Is there a delay on registering kills to kill column we’ve been hit twice battle report say over 20 k in kills but nothing under kill column

[tribal sphinx]

hello, a question, if the governor of an alliance changes alliance then, does he keep the title and the place of governor in his new alliance?

[latent granite]

As far as I am aware yes until next wk that is

[summer quartz]

@fluid fractal @half basin is it fixed yet?

[summer quartz]

There shouldn't be a delay... After i hit someone i get instantly kill and causality points

[half basin]

Still no

It shows all phases still completed. I tried to restart the app then my phone but still the same

Points increases tho but all rewards shows claimed, not even 2 hours yet since start

[summer quartz]

Ok that is weird. Did you messaged the CS? I will also forward it to our captians here in dc

[half basin]

Yes i sent a message to CS

[unkempt ibex]

anybody going up against 329 be wary of any NAPs

the HtG alliance went rogue and broke the NAP

[blazing cliff]

Yes, but the original alliance states on the hub

[tribal sphinx]

ok thank you very much for your answer 👍

[fervent walrus]

Question, does the troop amount affect the occupation pointS?

[unkempt ibex]

actually, they weren’t rogue at all

State 329 are snakes who break NAPs, do not enter an NAP with them

[summer quartz]

Yes the amount matters

More troops = you get faster occupation points

[fervent walrus]

Thank you very much for the explanation 😊

[summer quartz]

No problem 👍🏼 (as a example in reswar its enough if you just send 1 troop into a building)

[fervent walrus]

Thank you

[fluid fractal]

Six hits

[summer quartz]

And how many you killed?

[fluid fractal]

Ok

[marsh saddle]

What troop tier did they send at the turret?

[fluid fractal]

So am I just suppose to take pics and keep posting kills

[fluid fractal]

Anywhere from t11 to T6

Last wasteland I was in top ten in kills in my state this is going to get ridiculous no offense

/

[spare plaza]

If your state gets colonized would we still get the 300% training boost?

[winged vessel]

Yes

[spare plaza]

Ok thank you!

[winged vessel]

No problem

[quartz flame]

It will start on its own, since there isn't a gov to do it

[spare plaza]

Also if I were to immigrate to another state after WK would I lose the 300% boost?

This is what our governor decides to do 1 hour left of securing our states hub..

[quartz flame]

Yes, use it first

[spare plaza]

Ok thank you so much!

[north temple]

When do the 300%start

[quartz flame]

When your gov starts it

[fluid fractal]

I just want kill credit I don’t care if it’s the lowest point value I just would like them added

[dawn acorn]

What happens if a state wins a foreign hub for longest occupation time but loses their own home hub?

[static pewter]

Tap on “Kill Enemy Units”, it says kill foreign units

[fluid fractal]

And the first 6 were from other state the one above these

[spare plaza]

?

[fluid fractal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/803653235617431572/942076944151896095/6B1D5BAD-56B3-4E92-9C8A-9BE43694E3C0.jpg

@spare plaza

All are posted go back up in chat please

[spare plaza]

Ok.. I don’t see why that has anything to do with me

[fluid fractal]

So sorry wrong person lol

[spare plaza]

Lol no worries I was just really confused 😂

[fluid fractal]

If you look at the first six are from enemy states

[static pewter]

T1s?

[gilded cypress]

Are any troops healed automatically after wasteland?

[sage spear]

No. The dead are dead and the injured cost rss and time/speedups.

[gilded cypress]

Aww poop

Thank you

[unkempt ibex]

@misty sinew i thought you might appreciate this one. I had an incredibly cocky HQ31 telling me in battle division chat that he’d show me “what an 8* shooter could do” when he only had 1 piece of gear and 2 shooter chips 8-starred 😂

[misty sinew]

Haha

Lol what a loser

[unkempt ibex]

He was definitely hurting after that one and still trying to talk smack 😂

[crystal willow]

he is not lying. he did indeed demonstrate what an 8* shooter can do 🤣

[cinder patrol]

What a dip lol

[raven sinew]

I was wondering as a state ages do you have to battle more states in wasteland kings cause today it was us and 3 other states so a total of 4 states battling. But always before it has been a total of 3?

[cinder patrol]

No. It depends on your state grade. If there aren’t enough states to divide evenly by 3, you might have 4, you might have 2.

[unkempt ibex]

he was up against my t9 shooters with 6 8* chips 😂🤦🏼‍♂️

more than 450% shooter atk stronger than him

[bronze galleon]

Was in the same WK as @unkempt ibex above. I think we will both share the same conclusion that state 329 is not to be trusted. Broke the NAP and initially blamed it on a rogue alliance. That same alliance was later welcomed by their governor.
So, be careful if you are matched up with them.

[unkempt ibex]

thank you for corroborating my story, and thank you 365 for trying to help us take back our hub

[bronze galleon]

Was our pleasure, pity it didn’t work. And at least we know to which state to go for some revenge during next VC 😈😈😈

[unkempt ibex]

i’ve already got their hives bookmarked and the coords have been pinned in our alliances discord channel 😈

[river cape]

Ohhhhhh, ideas for the future! Thank you!
It does suck when they keep resetting hub timer!

[silk glen]

I have a plan …. It’s been ages 😍

[river cape]

It has? I can’t place you. Please take it to #🔥game-general , or the channel we might share if you’re who I think you are.

[final maple]

Nice easy kill points you got, I want to try it too 😄

[molten ice]

Hi All, Blizzsards from 414 reporting for duty and seek for justice..

[molten ice]

Guys.... do you know we can i report my problem? Or seek help? Or atleast ask what to do? Because my state was conquered by a group of bullies... and they tend to wreck all the players

They are XXX

[sage briar]

Eh xxx is not that bad 408 survived and everytime i checked there was nothing burning 🥱

[molten ice]

Say that again...

They are the bullies that disrespect people n players

I need help....

But if this group is not the group that can help me...

I understand...

Or you guys are fine with bullies and those thing that come with them

If they pick players their own size, that would be fine... but when they pick my friend who are suffering cancer... who just started to grow.... they are realky cruel

[toxic torrent]

We're absolutely not fine with them! But the cost of the flights is ridiculous and people can't go there to help them because of it.

[molten ice]

Truely i love this game... but if we put in with bullies.... we are no less like them...

I cant do anything bcoz i just started playing this game n fall in love with the players, of course there are jerks... but XXX is a different level

I am really sorry to bring this up to u guys... but I left with few options..

Really sorry to burden u guys with this...

I really hope that we can fight bullies coz they make this world so bad to live in..

Especially when we wanted some fun to enjoy this game

I wanted to appeal to those who have hearts, pls, come and help, and I really appreciate it,

Why i didnt fly away? Yes, fly and u will be save, but just me... the bullies will always be at large...

[toxic torrent]

They're known that they burn new states. Unfortunatelly we can't do anything about it. Do you know how expensive are flights for bigger players?😢 Maybe there is someone who will help,but I doubt it

[nimble plume]

Sape blizz yg kne cancer tu?

[river cape]

If each one of you who is being burned screen shots all those battle logs and how many are injured in The infirmary and alliance infirmary, and deep healing if you have it, then send them to CS every single time it happens, they might do something.
Unfortunately, they’re not the first alliance to do this, nor will they be the last, but if we all come together and report each and every infraction, with the screenshotted proof, the devs might actually ban them! It’s a long shot, but definitely worth trying.

[polar magnet]

This team is NOTORIOUS 🤣

I feel like you can't truly say you play this game until you've had a run in with them.

[polar magnet]

Yes. XXX is a different level. Not only do they burn other states and teams, but they harass and are sexist, racist.... just very cruel biggots.

One of them said in our state chat in my former state, that he was glad my mother was dead... and then for days he kept bringing up that my mother had died and that it was deserved.

[molten ice]

Riezz ada ari tu....

Tapi diirg make fun if him

[sage briar]

Stuff like that is bannable if documented and provided to cs

If they were only burning, that is not bannable

[polar magnet]

I'm also waiting for surgery to remove possibly cancerous cells and he made sure to discuss that in state chat as well

[polar magnet]

We kept reporting to CS. They don't exactly have a history of listening

I was too burnt out from the experience to continue to pursue it with them

If you search in this server, they have such a long, sordid history, and yet CS does nothing lol
Such a joke

Like how many players in this game have to keep reporting this damn team before CS actually does anything about it

[white totem]

Abrizan

Riezz there is a ...

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[sharp coyote]

Not only that, the 37games Team forced the mods of this discord to unban that xxx person, because they apparently don’t think they did anything bad 🤷‍♂️

[polar magnet]

I think we've all come to understand that they'll prioritize profit over the well being of their customers. What they don't realize is that they likely lose more money in the long run because we end up being too busy dealing with the bullies to actually be playing and spending money. Also, players end up quitting because the game isn't fun when you have to deal with such crazy levels of harassment.

I've taken two spending hiatuses in protest of how CS handles things, and I'm a decent spender. I have no qualms about doing it again.

[proven orchid]

As someone who has been playing this game for a year or so now, they are not the only ones playing the game like this. I've been to a few stats here and there and there are folks who attack others. I've sat in 20-hour hub battles to maintain the control of your home state. It is a war game, which takes some strategy to play and there is more to it than gathering resources. Its been said a thousand times: you want to farm, play Farmville. I've lost millions of troops in WLK battles across multiple accounts. Its the nature of the game. The game allows for some recovery with the Fast Comeback. Use it or don't, up to you.

Also, as a student of the game, the biggest issue I see here, is spamming these channels with constant complaints about folks. I would assume some folks are like me and come here to learn and cant find any decent information due to everyone complaining about a group of players. Can the mods create a "Complaint Department" channel and have folks post all this crap there and quit spamming these informational channels? Maybe even make a sub-channel as a shrine to xxx or whatever since you all cant keep them out of conversation. Just a thought....

[quartz valve]

I was wondering if wasteland king is ever going to change times? Is The 24 hour period rock solid and never going to change?

[river cape]

The only time the time changes is with the twice yearly changing of the clocks, unfortunately. And that is only by an hour. So, it is as Rock Solid as anything in this game is.

[quartz valve]

No way to make it on, let's say, a Wednesday instead?

[polar magnet]

Yes it's a war game, but as said by others - the game attacks are fine. What's not ok are the anti-semitic comments referencing Hitler, or the homophobic comments... or the sexist comments, or the general in-game harassment of players who are battling with cancer or who have lost loved ones.

Also - we should be discussing these things because none of that BS should ever be permitted in gaming

[river cape]

Nope. For the majority of those playing, WK and VC occur on the weekend, which is when a lot of us have the time to participate.

[cinder patrol]

There is a difference between a “war game” (which I deeply question the knowledge of anyone who thinks this game is that simplistic) and harassing people and making it your mission to ruin their gaming experience. XxX does the latter.

[cinder patrol]

That would be awful? Most people can’t participate on a Wednesday. Weekends are when the majority of us have the most time off.

[dawn acorn]

I 100% agree, none of that should be tolerated. Definitely submit those SS to CS and they might warn, suspend or ban those players.

However, I along with many of the players here have visited their occupied states to check things out and keep tabs. I never saw any of the things you described. In fact only the opposite. I've only ever seen friendly conversation in state chat

[polar magnet]

So therefore because you never witnessed these instances that many players have talked about, they must never have happened 🤣

Ok then

[quartz valve]

I'm just asking. I guess there really is no other time.

[real elm]

Please post the comments you are alleging here because I’ve been in states with xxx. They have incredibly deep knowledge of the game and have never been racist, sexist or homophobic.

[dawn acorn]

To spend many days checking in SC and never seeing that, but seeing lots of normal conversation, then yes, your painting them with a brush saying they are a bunch of anti-semitic homophobes is definitely going too far

[dawn acorn]

Sanctuary Rule #4. Definitely prohibited

[polar magnet]

Meh - I'm not going to do the free labour to convince total strangers that my experience and others' experiences were true. The mods in this server have seen enough screenshots regarding other bullies to know that I don't make up this kind of stuff.

[river cape]

There’s a difference between xxx and XxX though, I’m sure.

[dawn acorn]

Oh, are there two groups?

[polar magnet]

They change their tags, so you have to know who the individual players are

[dawn acorn]

Oh, ok

[polar magnet]

There are teams who are XXX / XxX / xXx who shouldn't be lumped in with the bullies

[river cape]

Could we take this to #🔥game-general #🎯off-topic-chat or #🇬🇧english please? This is for wasteland kings questions and answers.

[karmic ginkgo]

Any s187 nfe guys around 👍🏻

[river cape]

Lol #🔥game-general or #s200-s299 . You need the 187 state link?
@(nfe) AssasiNATE ╰‿╯#0029

[polar magnet]

Sorry - this convo started here because it does relate to WLK, but agree that it's strayed and should move elsewhere

[crystal willow]

anyone can give me some history on what those XXX guys are and what did they do?

[toxic torrent]

Burning states

Look for XXX on Discord

[cinder patrol]

Yeah there are. But that is their tag, unless they changed it lol. You can’t really delineate between which. We all kind of know who we are talking about.

[crystal willow]

oh ok. a bunch of bullies, but operating within the limits of ToS?

[azure bluff]

@stone bison @tranquil stump @surreal flint any word on when legend grade will actually be implemented for the top 9 in diamond grade and some variation in matchups between those 9, versus the boring and predictable 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9 we’ve all come to hate?

[dawn acorn]

Yeah, a traveling war alliance. There's two others I've been watching too. Haven't been watching too long, but so far, it seems Wasteland King is the trigger. They make their moves a day or so before Wasteland King to take control and occupy the state. Pretty clever actually, even though they burn so many and a lot migrate out to avoid dealing with them

[molten ice]

Its because the xxx doesnt chat openly in public

[crystal willow]

so, some mechanics that need to be revised… new states need to be more protected

[cinder patrol]

You can’t post that here. You should delete it before a Mod does it for you.

<@&742285797725569104>

[broken oak]

Can you delete this please and move this to alliance recruitment

[teal quarry]

You’re having fun yet buddy lol

[quartz flame]

#✅alliances-seeking-players

[azure bluff]

Lol always

[cinder patrol]

Tagging the captains is pretty useless lol

[teal quarry]

Rpg hide

[river cape]

Sorry. He’s new and having trouble getting things straight.

[broken oak]

It's fine

[azure bluff]

What would you suggest then? Share that wisdom

[cinder patrol]

If you want a specific question about when something will happen/be available, ask CS in game. Captains don’t talk in here. Mods are the next best to ask because they talk to the captains directly but they don’t always get answers, either. Or you can just simply ask and if it’s a question someone knows, they’ll answer.

[azure bluff]

Already tried with the very poor game support. Even if you can get them to understand the question, their responses are mostly daft and leave a lot to be desired. Zayn and Chester tend to be better bets for information, when they choose to reply of course. Either way, there’s no money to be made from actually fixing the event as described so I doubt it’s a priority. But if we all stay silent, it’s even less of a priority.

[cinder patrol]

I’m just telling you that I think I’ve seen them speak once and that was when we had a massive in-game bug lol and so tagging them won’t get you the attention you think. They don’t talk. You’d be better off DMing them tbh.

[quartz flame]

Don't NAP and take a hub, that with rearrange the order

[azure bluff]

We’ve taken many hubs. That’s why we are where we are. There’s no where to go but down really….

If the match is always 1-2-3 …..

[quartz flame]

1-2-3 will change when everyone in the top 9 takes each other's hubs.

If 2 5 and 9 lose hubs, 1 4 and 8 get hubs, it's now different match up.

Those are randomly picked #s

[azure bluff]

That would mostly likely change one opponent. The fact is that we’ve been promised better randomization amongst the top 9 and legend grade to actually be implemented (it’s been in the WK description since the change to tiers) and have seen neither for months

[raven sinew]

Does anyone know what tier of wk has the most states in it?

[azure bluff]

Rather than propose a bandaid solution by putting it back on the states and players, I’m asking when the game will actually work as described. If anyone from the company has that answer it would be welcome news for everyone.

All that said, i appreciate someone actually taking the time to respond, even if there isn’t a good answer yet.

[quartz flame]

They promised more balanced matching and more randomized overall based on balance. Balanced matches is the main focus.

[azure bluff]

Yes and the whole point of legend grade is that the mightiest would rise to the top 9, just like clash and res wars but without the ability to avoid another by choosing different time blocks, and face each other. But all we have seen is consistent 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9 matchups and no legend grade implemented. There’s a frame for it and everything, so there’s clearly intention. Any insight into when it will actually turn on would be fantastic. And then, ideally, randomized marches between the top 9.

[quartz flame]

If top 10 napped in Clash and res war to have no winner and just a tie, there would be the same issue. Only thing they may save that is that the game,is split over different times slots. After rising to the top, they expected everyone to keep fighting and taking/losing hubs. I know that you want randomized matching in the top 9, the system isnt considering players are purposely causing a tie. Just adding -points for no hubs would help fix that. That's a quick fix in the code than building a randomizer

[azure bluff]

We already get -150 for not taking an opponent hub. We also napped for the passing of Andrew6666 - a bit of an aberration.

[quartz flame]

Description says top 9 lose 0 point for no hubs, only Diamond has a - listed. Typos are pretty common though, I'll add the randomizing and that typo to my report

[azure bluff]

That would be true if legend grade existed / was implemented, but since it has not been, top 9 are treated no differently than rest of diamond grade at this time.

[quartz flame]

Make sense, I'll see if they have a date for the start

[azure bluff]

Thanks for your help

[sage briar]

Its like a river all flowing to platinum

[crystal willow]

platinum is the tier with no trophy change if your state does not lose your hub nor take other hubs. so i think more than 50% states will be platinum eventually, and will stay there.

[white totem]

ScaceTheAce

Это, в основном, изменит один противник. Дело в том, что мы обещали лучшую рандомизацию среди верхнего 9 и класса легенды, чтобы на самом деле быть реализованным (это было в описании WK с момента изменения галстуков) и не видели ни в течение месяцев

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[gritty cipher]

Anyone up for a math problem? 😂

[crystal willow]

shoot

[gritty cipher]

Alliance X is in grade Platinum with 2400 points. Alliance X will lose their hub in WK and that means they will lose 200 grade points and that will put Alliance X in Gold. Right?

[crystal willow]

yes, if it does not occupy another state’s hub

[gritty cipher]

Ok. Then what happens the next WK if Alliance X will keep their hub? They will get 500 points and they will also promote to Platinum? Having 2700 points?

[crystal willow]

but if you do it on purpose just to drop down to gold, it is not worth it because you will be come platinum anyways next WK

[crystal willow]

next WK, if you only keep your own hub, you gain 200 points and get back into platinum

[gritty cipher]

And those 500 are only one time, right?

[crystal willow]

what do you mean one time?

sorry you get 200 points if you only have your own hub

[gritty cipher]

I mean you don’t get 500 each time you hold your hub because that will put you in Legend in few WKs

[crystal willow]

when you are in platinum and you only hold your own hub, you get 0 point

[gritty cipher]

Ok, makes sense now

[crystal willow]

so you cannot stay in gold forever, unless you wanna keep losing your hub. but when you reach platinum, you can stay there as long as you want AND get to keep your own hub every time.

[gritty cipher]

Keeping your hub in Platinum right now is like keeping your pockets safe in Florence Ponte Vecchio 😂

[gritty cipher]

So in Gold you get 200 points for holding only your hub?

[crystal willow]

lol how’s that?

[crystal willow]

yes

[gritty cipher]

So what is in this table is wrong?

In gold I see that you get 200 points if you don’t hold any hub

[gritty cipher]

Bad matchmaking imo. There is no balance lately

[crystal willow]

my understanding: “not holding hub” means not taking a foreign hub

[gritty cipher]

No, I mean holding my state hub

[crystal willow]

but i can say with 💯 certainty that if you only hold your own hub in gold, you get 200 points, and in platinum, 0 points. from my own experience.

[crystal willow]

i mean in the table, holding no hub means no foreign hub

[gritty cipher]

Yes but you cannot hold 3 foreign hubs, right?

Or there are cases were 4 states are matched?

[crystal willow]

some states get matched with 3 other states (4 states in total)

[gritty cipher]

Oh, that makes it clear now

https://tenor.com/view/eureka-john-barrymore-the-invisible-woman-i-have-an-idea-a-ha-gif-18790999

Thanks a lot, bud! 🍻

[crystal willow]

anytime

[hallow crown]

When there isn't enough states to divide by 3 on the bracket you can get 4 total (yours against 3) or only 2 total (yours against 1)

[cinder patrol]

I swear we answer this question once a week lol

[gritty cipher]

oh, sorry about that but I could not find the answer because of this type of comments

[crystal willow]

maybe it’s time for a WK FAQ 😝

[quartz flame]

within 1 day people would just reask the same questions

[crystal willow]

yeah. thus the “F”aq 😂

[cinder patrol]

I’ve been considering it tbh

[pliant apex]

What happens to your hub if no one ever occupies it from any state

[crystal willow]

then no one occupies it? 😝

[polar magnet]

Hey All. Looking for some feedback from states who have lost WLK. Wondering what the best and worst scenarios look like. Looking for objective feedback as I can't seem to convince our state leadership that the worst case scenario is hell lol

[river cape]

Worst case scenario: the two other states keep battling it out between themselves, resetting your hub. You manage to get enough accumulated time for them to not win. Then face them again in Valiant. And keeping it going for the full 24 hours!

[crystal willow]

IMHO, losing is not a big deal. you lose governorship for two weeks and some small amount of boosts/rewards the governor can apply. that’s it. you don’t even feel the tax, as you do not need to pay extra rss to the occupying state. it’s definitely a blow to morale, but not the end of the world i would say. just my own experience and opinion, though.

[polar magnet]

Thanks Prince. Maybe I'm catastrophizing this because I watched a state collapse as a result of a lost WLK

The 24 hour scenario is a better argument at the moment. The rss cost of a 24 hour battle would be staggering... not to mention the toll for the hosting defense team

[cinder patrol]

We lost once. It wasn’t that big of a deal. We just folded immediately, we knew we couldn’t fight back and so the troop loss wasn’t worth it. No biggie.

[river cape]

As @cinder patrol implied, if it’s planned for you can still have a good WK without spending a month rebuilding.

[polar magnet]

This is actually my concern right now. There's a suggestion that we continue to reduce participation requirements for the event, and players have been living down to those expectations

So I'm worried we'll be underprepared for the event and my alliance is next to host

[cinder patrol]

Just have a plan. If people don’t show up, bail.

[sage briar]

Yes the cost can be staggering, i would recommend to fold like gee gee said if you dont think you can win

And then just try again in 2 weeks, not a big deal

[river cape]

The only difference most of the state will notice is the lack of boosts for Ace, since normally taxes come off and are put to no use, they just go into the coffers of the ‘governing’ alliance instead. Either way we don’t see them.

[polar magnet]

Good reminder about the boosts for Ace

@river cape thank you!

[river cape]

You’re welcome 🙂

[edgy oyster]

Sounds like your state/alliance takes the game too seriously :x

Just hf and try to get event rewards. If you don't retain your hub, all you lose are titles/state boosts and you don't get the chests. Mina sht imo lol👀 don't worry about it

[polar magnet]

Um ok?

"Sounds like your state/alliance takes the game too seriously :x" <<< Not helpful or appreciated. Maybe keep those sorts of judgmental statements to yourself bud

[inner sable]

It’s sorta true tho. You don’t lose much in the way of boosts and miniature box rewards. I mean they’re cool and all but not worth stressing over or losing all your troops for. I’m sure they appreciate your approach and the fact you are taking it serious. Shout so I believe is just saying don’t stress on it too much

[edgy oyster]

Sorry. Was more suggesting you ease the pressure put onto you from your state/alliance.

The game should be about having fun, not stress

But sure, hf✌️

[river cape]

I’m not being argumentative, but I am curious. What pressure?
There are different rules for different states about participating in WK. one of mine has a points system in place for immunity from bi-weekly purge. Is it that kind of pressure you’re talking about?

[edgy oyster]

Maybe I misunderstood them, but it seemed like there was pressure to be fully prepared for a WK

Maybe I was wrong 👀

[river cape]

Ohhhhh, that could be :).
If you’re a newer state there IS a lot of pressure, especially if you’re in one of the top alliances since they usually have the biggest players so are expected to participate.
The smaller alliances are as well, to a lesser degree. It’s not difficult, or time consuming to send out a camper or two, or move your sanctuary to fill in a hole closer to the hub, and post coordinates of anyone from out of state.
It’s been a year since my first Zenith, but I do remember that pressure. I didn’t cope well, lol, but now it’s old hat and I participate how I can, when I can. Real life always comes first, don’t let them tell you differently!
There IS a lot to do to get ready in the beginning, but as your state grows and puts rules in place things get easier and the pressure lessens.

[edgy oyster]

I just chill👀 I expect 0 participation. If people wanna participate, awesome, otherwise I'll solo turrets for event pts🤣

[river cape]

Lol.
I chill too. Tile hit, etc.
Sometimes you’ll find an accommodating opponent who will trade tile hits with you. The only draw back to this is it doesn’t qualify for fast comeback.

[worn flume]

Question. If u reinforce a hub building can u keep ur sheild up? I know if u atk ur sheild drops but if ur reinforcing does that effect ur sheild?

[cinder patrol]

Your shield will drop.

[worn flume]

Ok thanks

[dawn acorn]

When you take a state, it shields home hub which blocks foreigners but is exposed to local state.

If you take a 3rd hub at same time, it drops shield on home hub but shields 2nd hub.

Anyone know the specifics of getting a shield in a foreign state? Does it just block other foreigners but still vulnerable to the alliances of that state you're invading?

[sage briar]

Why wouldnt it block home state? Looks like a regular shield

[cinder patrol]

If you see a shield in a foreign state, it means they took their hub back from a foreign alliance that occupied it and they have a 30 minute shield

[dawn acorn]

Yes.

Not the question though, so I'll try to clarify.
As attacker, it always shields the last hub you occupy. If you conquer 3 at same time, 2nd one gets a shield as invader and home hub unshields.

As invader, I am wondering what the 2nd state shield protects against. Only foreigners like all other wk shields, or against attacks from locals of that state too

[cinder patrol]

A shield is a shield

So it’s going to protect from any attacks

[dawn acorn]

The home hub shield and the shield for deflecting an invader only shield from direct out of state attacks. Neither shield from internal state attacks or turrets

This is why I don't know what the invaders foreign shield does. My state hasn't had a chance to find out, but we are hoping to this Saturday. Would just prefer to know in advance what will happen from someone who has been through it

[ionic surge]

Not turrets but it protects from in state attacks

[cinder patrol]

It doesn’t protect from turrets. Nothing does. I’m 99% certain it protects against in state attacks as well.

[dawn acorn]

The shield actually does not protect from in state attacks. Watch the battlelogs when you're in hub next and it has shield. All the sacrifice troops incoming still hit the hub and die.

In addition, I've had a home hub timer get reset before to an in state attack while fighting in a foreign state (shh 🤫 , we're not going to talk about that one, lol)

[cinder patrol]

Interesting

[sage briar]

Which state is all this craziness happening?

[hollow cipher]

Hello

anyone have the wasteland event points chart?

[river cape]

To to coming events, wasteland kings, press the I in the upper right corner and it’s in one of the two tabs there.

[hollow cipher]

but isn't there is a casualties rewards.....etc

[river cape]

Ah…that one. Yes. Occupation, casualties, kills. I don’t know where to find that one. Sorry.

[hollow cipher]

no worries! thanks for your help!

[white totem]

question the zenith/hub for this weekend. It's random with other states or not?

[crystal willow]

you mean whether your opponent states are randomly selected? yes, they are randomly selected from the same league as where your state is in.

[ionic surge]

It does protect from new attacks though

[dawn acorn]

Interesting. I'll watch for that Saturday

Didn't think about whether or not there might've been a difference based on when the rallies were initiated

[ionic surge]

Only for those from your own state though. I know that marches still arrive aber you can't attack your own hub with the bubble on

[willow verge]

Should I be using the First Aid skill when defending a turret? I've not used it and someone was asking me about it today and it sounds like a good idea?

[dawn acorn]

Maybe if you're about to get hit by a massive rally

First Aid always best at the moment that you expect to have the most losses

[willow verge]

Oh yeah. Forgot it only lasts 30 mins so will have to be on during the hit. Thanks for the reminder.

[river cape]

And instant heal will bring back 10% of those troops instantly, no rss required.
Remember, both have a 24 hour cool down.

[tepid wagon]

Hey all 🙂 who can choose the next governor? The r5 or the one who Leads hub ?

[toxic torrent]

R5 of the occupying alliance🙂

[tepid wagon]

Thx

[toxic torrent]

You're welcome

[hallow crown]

Humm, interesting, someone once told me you had to use First Aid before sending the march, and all marches sent on those 30 min would keep the effect until recalled/hit. Can anyone confirm how it really works?

[boreal path]

You simply have to hit the first aid button before you are attacked… I’ve been sitting in a turret for hours had a big rally come my way and hit that first aid button right before they hit me. It does last for 30 minutes afterwards but it’s a 24 hour reset.

[torpid flame]

Guys, I have a question.

If noone occupied Hub for the rest of the event, whos gonna be governor and will that state have 300% buff training ?

[willow verge]

Yeah, I have a timer set to run Instant Heal every day. 🙂

What about Talent Set? Can I switch to the Stamina Regen Talent or should I keep the Military Talent active? I've read conflicting accounts on if your Talent Set is retained after sending the march to the Hub/Turret.

[languid night]

first time wasteland king for me. is there a 300% training bonus for lost might in the same way as there is for zenith war? If so, casualties against which targets count?

[trail thistle]

Hey all how can we solve this

[raw aspen]

Is a 4 way fight normal for WK? Never seen it before.

[balmy iron]

yes, more state to conquer? 😈😂

[torpid flame]

guys, what if we lose to another state, Will we still have 300% training buff ?

[balmy iron]

is it forbidden to say here that Andrew6666 acc is active? i havent see any discussion on it here. But that mighty acc is active and kicking.

[visual glacier]

do wounded troops come back after wasteland king ends?

or do I need to heal them myself

[mighty meteor]

how does the matchmaking process work? Putting state 13 vs newer states doesnt feel right?

[inner sable]

Why? Looks like the newer state took it

Seems fair enough

[mighty meteor]

They can get it back in 5 sec if they want.. they’re just giving people occu.pts

[graceful canyon]

They do not return, get to healing. Valiant they will after the event ends and only if other states players attacked you. WK, you need to heal yourself or risk permanent loss if you offer fill infirmaries.

[torpid flame]

@graceful canyon do you know if a losing state can have 300% training buff ?

[graceful canyon]

If you lose your hub that is the only buff that activates. All others and boxes are lost until next wasteland.

[torpid flame]

owwh, so we have 300% buff only

thats cool

thank you so much @graceful canyon

[graceful canyon]

Best of luck to you and everyone else today!

[unkempt ibex]

his wife is running the account, as confirmed by devs. this is more of a question for #🎯off-topic-chat or #🔥game-general though

[civic crest]

Shout out to UND st 286. Stand up alliance true to their word need more like this!

[dawn crest]

Has it been said why we don’t have the normal waste boxes to buy??

[crystal willow]

what are waste boxes?

[dawn crest]

Oh, it’s you, the prince wiper of… 😏

In the mall we normally have a few boxes with direct ports, attack/def boosts, speed marches, etc. there are none of those this weekend

[cedar field]

Do deaths caused by turret attacks on hub count towards fast comeback.... if not they really should... taken 200k deaths so far this WK from just turret attacks.

[crystal willow]

oh. i see. yeah, i was wondering too. i will ask.

[dawn crest]

Appreciate you! Tell them (please) that they are killing my diamond stash

[crystal willow]

at least you have a stash 😜

[dawn crest]

Past tense *had

[livid gazelle]

They're in rare now

[sage briar]

This is fun to fight 😑

[crystal willow]

looks fun, especially in VC

[sage briar]

Were not even half their age zzz

[crystal willow]

finally those bubbles can be used before expiration date

[quartz flame]

I feel that this wk

[sinful jasper]

Has anyone the 300% training boosts available?

[crystal willow]

our state has started it. your governor needs to start it manually, or you need to wait for it to automatically start upon the end of the event.

[sinful jasper]

Thx

[potent star]

What happen when other state win and hold our hub for 8 hours. What can they do after WK is over?

[agile juniper]

If your gov activates the 300%, does that stop your eligible troops? One of our 3 states is still battling. If it's activated and I hit more towers, will my number increase?

[sage briar]

Nothing you just dont get gov buff title or boxes and highest might controls immigration

[fickle narwhal]

Yes

[fickle narwhal]

They will get your taxes and be able to hand them out to people in their state as well. Besides that and what Mnemus said, nothing.

[potent star]

Thanks

[quartz flame]

Troops should add till WK ends

[fickle narwhal]

I wasn't able to answer this as I've never done it before, but if you complete the bonus and then go out and kill more will you then get more?

[quartz flame]

We had several people test it months ago and it added to their numbers

[agile juniper]

Thanks!

[stoic marlin]

How do you get the 300% boost?

[wraith shoal]

They moved it quietly to the mall under Rare Items in hope no one would find them easily and waste money on other mall items to obtain diamonds. Very shady business.

[fickle narwhal]

Your governor has to activate it.

[visual glacier]

thx @Handleman, I'll get started with the 7 days of healing 🥲

[sinful warren]

Quick question to you folks and would greatly appreciate your inputs. The 300% boost post wasteland was activated today after reset. My understanding is it (300% boost) will stay in effect for for 3 more resets(?) if I am not wrong. I have a 2part question

Based on the events schedule next reset (Reset 1) -> Hero day. Following that is Reset 2 -> New development
a) New development is building/research and training troops, correct?
b) Say I have not used up my quota of gaining back the 120% might lost during wasteland. Will the 300% still be active for new development?

Apologies if this was already asked elsewhere and would greatly appreciate if you could point me to the post. Thanks.

[crystal willow]

yes it will be active for 3 full days. but once you used up your quota (120% of the might in units lost), you will no longer benefit from it any more even if it is still active

[sinful warren]

Thank you and New development on Tuesday is building/research and training troops, correct?

[crystal willow]

yes. new development is speedup or mark of glory

[cold ruin]

I lost over 70 million in might in wasteland but I only received 9 million in available boost

What happened

I went to another alliance to help and I left before the boost was activated does that make any difference

[inner sable]

It doesn’t count towards the units that need to heal

[sharp mulch]

did you lose your troops all through the hub/towers?

[mighty meteor]

same for me!!

[river cape]

If you lose your troops because the turrets were firing on the hub, they do not count towards fast comeback boost. If you hit another sanctuary, or your sanctuary is hit, it does not count. Hitting or getting hit on tiles does not count.
The only things which count toward fast comeback are being in a turret which is hit by other troops, and being in the hub which was hit by other troops.

[fervent marten]

What are the options when a state you are facing makes a mini account in my state and takes another state because they are not participating in wastelands?

I tried to stop it but you can’t even hit the hq sending if from your own state

They just kept sending

It too mention our state 369 already being paired up with 61 and 135 is nonsense

Here is the hqs

They made a spot for it

Can this be rectified and both the other states punished or is this considered fair play by pns?

[agile goblet]

@river cape this is the incident im refering to

So in addition to "us getting rss via coffers" we really dont, they will shield that mini and collect all the taxes. Genious move but now our wlk events are will be even harder and we will have to drop multiple wlk to compensate

[rugged marlin]

In regards to shielding the mini and collecting the taxes - Only the gov can give away the taxes. So whoever is gov of your state is in control of the coffers. And yall get the boxes from their state as well. The mini that took the hub doesn't get anything for doing that, it just meant your state got the victory. (Even though yall didn't want it)

[agile goblet]

Thanks for clarifying

So in reality, the only way to stop getting paired with these old giant states is to throw wlk events and hope another state is in fact willing to take it or set it up like these guys did and screw over another state

Pns isnt going to do a thing about fixing this very broken ranking system

[rugged marlin]

Anytime! I am sorry yall had this happen, definitely enjoy the coffers to boost yalls state!
Lots of the old states are willing to nap as well. Except for some of the big big ones that are fighting at the top leagues right now. Hopefully yall won't have to throw any and can just nap for a couple to have some states move ahead of yall in rankings.

[agile goblet]

@rugged marlin this was the first one we had a win outside our own zennith and our events have gotten harder and harder, we have always just had a nap for it. So this progression really isnt making sense to me.

[crystal willow]

interesting approach 🤔 the only way i can think of is to create a mini of your own in their state and beat their mini 😂

[fervent marten]

I wish I could find some humor in unfair play but I am not capable

[crystal willow]

theoretically you could do the same to them… so it is fair in that sense. it is rude to do that, however.

[fervent marten]

It shouldn’t even be possible for an account to be able to be made and used in wk. on the same day. you can’t migrate during the event

[crystal willow]

they could also easily make one account per state ahead of time. the cost for doing that is very low.

[fervent marten]

Well this isn’t the spirit of the event nor a serious conversation when we starting playing the what if game and making excuses for a broken game to make it seem fair. Good day

[crystal willow]

it isn’t the spirit of the event, for sure. i’m just saying there are many ways to work around the rules. what you suggested simply does not patch the hole. that’s why i said the best way to counter what they did is simply doing the same as them.

[river cape]

I know it is possible for one person to super reinforce a turret captain without taking over as captain. Could someone please explain this to me? And tell me if the super reinforcers stats come into play?

[river cape]

This was answered for me elsewhere.
A person with a huge rally size can go in first, then be super reinforced by someone with better stats. Reinforcer takes over as captain, but the larger rally size stays in place.

[still cedar]

I don’t see it pinned here—does anyone have a log of what the kills, casuality and occupation rewards are?

[crystal willow]

if someone can take a screenshot, we will pin it to the channel.

[sage briar]

Unless you want to lose half your wks there is no way to avoid being platinum rank where all these crazy older states with 3 hq40s in one state are sitting, they forced us to fight too 😪

[vivid hazel]

Hello, I hope you can help me. I'm new to the game so I don't know how many thinks work. How are the groups of opposing states matched in WK? How does the scoring work in these pairings and can we avoid being paired with old states? Last week our state (404) was paired with state 13, which surprised us a lot, as it is a very old and impressive mights. Thanks in advance🙇‍♀️

[broken oak]

The states are matched based on your total points. The more states you conquer the more points you get qnd the higher you move up in the rankins

[vivid hazel]

We did not conquer any state yet, on the contrary, we barely managed to keep our hub. So that means that the other state has been losing its hub several times to be matched with ours, right?🧐

[broken oak]

That or they never took one

[still cedar]

If two alliances from the same state hold two hubs during WK, what happens? So if alliance ABC holds their home hub in state 1, and alliance DEF (also from state 1) holds the hub in state 2, what happens?

[sacred basin]

Hub in state 1 bubbles

[sage briar]

Any rank before platinum if you hold your hub you rank up, when you reach platinum you stop gaining points for doing so

Basically everybody ends up in platinum unless they choose to take zeniths to go higher

[vivid hazel]

Thank you for the clarification🙇‍♀️ 🙇‍♀️

[still cedar]

Yes. But what if they both hold them for the duration?

[sacred basin]

ABC alliance R5 becomes governor or can appoint someone as such. State 2 doesn't get a governor and state 1 gets the taxes from state 2. The Governor of state 1 can give out the coffers as they see fit. And State 1 ranks even higher in wasteland king and gets a higher chance of seeing harder opponents next time.

[still cedar]

Right so what I’m hearing you say is it doesn’t matter if two different alliances from the same state hold hubs. You’ll still get the taxes.

[celest haven]

Hey everyone! I have a quick question. Troops that are killed/injured during Wasteland is returned after the event? or is that just during Valiant?

[livid gazelle]

Just valiant unfortunately

I lose about 40m might each wasteland-sometimes more

[celest haven]

Wow! thanks for answering me so fast 🙂

[livid gazelle]

I was on break from work. Your timing was really good

Also really glad to help.

Unsolicited advice, if you're going to be really active with wasteland make sure you build up your infirmaries.

[river cape]

And make sure you have alliance coin to get troops out of alliance infirmary. There are some hits that result in wounded only.

[livid gazelle]

Oh yeah! Good point

[night yacht]

I have a question: it seems that this table for points is inaccurate, as we did hold our own hub, but our points are unchanged. Following this table, there should be 500 Points more.

Where can I find an accurate overview for which number of points are granted on which occasions? Thank you very much!

[crystal willow]

500 is when you take control of 1 foreign hub. if you are platinum, and you only hold your own hub, you are considered occupying 0 foreign hub and you get the points from the last column, which is 0.

[night yacht]

Thank you, but why are there Points listed for 3 hubs occupied? Because there are just 2 foreign hubs to occupy

[crystal willow]

sometimes there could be 4 states matched together, if the number of states in the bracket is not divisible by 3.

[night yacht]

Thank you for this explanation 🌹

[vivid path]

@broken oak

[broken oak]

This isnt the place for this kind of post

[vivid path]

Thank you

[brisk stag]

Перепрошую, не туди скинула 🙊🙈

[agile goblet]

@sage briar from doing some math and talking to older states, from gold, even if you lose, you still get 50 points so you can never truly move back. You can slow your growth a little and hope other states grow faster but ultimately you will end up platinum

@celest haven you do get a training boost for something like 120% of power lost and if you play it right you can heal before your troops die so you dont lose AS MANY troops are actual power loss. At least from my understanding. Someone else can correct me if theres an error at all in that.

[celest haven]

Thanks for all the info 😊

[agile goblet]

Caviat, you do NOT get a boost for troops killed in the hub by turrents or if your hq is hit in the mud. Only for troops lost by being attacked in a hub or turrent or while attacking a hub or turrent

[balmy herald]

If no one occupy the hub during wasteland king, will the state get the fast comeback buff?

[river cape]

Good question. I think I know the answer, but let’s see what the mods say 🙂

[crystal willow]

tell him the answer

[arctic abyss]

Hey all fast question so if your hub is taken once points are deducted. Say your hub is taken multiple times do to you fighting back do you loose another group of points

So instead of 300 you would lose 600

[arctic abyss]

No you don’t because the gov needs to initiate it

[livid gazelle]

I think it's per event. So if you don't keep it by the end you lose 300 points. But <@&742285797725569104> can probably confirm

[arctic abyss]

Thank you

[quartz flame]

You have to fully loose it to another state to loose points

[crystal willow]

only one party can win a hub at the end, based on the rule (occupying it for 8 consecutive hours or the longest duration).

[arctic abyss]

Thank you

[livid gazelle]

The mods to the rescue

[arctic abyss]

Thank you for the <@&742285797725569104>

[river cape]

I think fast comeback will activate but, unless anyone actually lost troops hitting another hub or turret, no one will get the boost because it won’t be needed. Or the gov won’t activate it if they kept their hub.

[still coyote]

<@&742285797725569104> For trophy points I’m seeing a 3600(+500) what does the in bracket number reflect?

[balmy herald]

In my state, once, we lost the hub to the other state. Obviously, there was no governor to activate the fast comeback buff and the other did not activate it for us as well, but it was automatically turned on.
Now, my question is if the hub is not occupied by my state neither the opponent state. Will we still get the buff?

[river cape]

My question is, do you need it if you don’t do anything to keep your hub?

[arctic abyss]

Unless you have troop loss you don’t get the boost

[balmy herald]

Thank for the answer

[balmy herald]

We still occupy the turrets, we still have troop lost. We just ignore the hub to down grade our state to be pair with younger state. The current grade of our state is too high for our power as we often have to face the older state.

[sleek wedge]

Question: What will happen if another state take our hub but we take another hub at the same time? Do we have state buff in this scenario?
Thank you and have a nice day😊

[steep sphinx]

You get the 300% buff regardless of winning or losing. I assume you only gain state grade points since you do not have a governor to actually activate and distribute things. I've never been in that situation before to be honest.

[river cape]

Gotcha!

[balmy herald]

Yes, you will get the buff for sure

[iron grove]

Who will be first gov, leader of alliance or the strongest in alliance. If not vfix who choose it.

And the gate restrictions fo higher hq, can aide change it.

[winged vessel]

Automatically goes to the r5 of the hosting alliance after 2 hours but the R5 can choose anyone to be gov before that happens

[winged vessel]

Only the gov can change it but a lot of states you can't change it, depends if it's a new state

[halcyon topaz]

Quick question. How long must a person be in the hub to be considered occupying?

[sage spear]

As soon as they land (and win) they occupy the hub or turrets. You need to occupy it for 3+ hours for full Occupation Points.

[white totem]

Why I cant get points for casualties when Im gathering in mud?

[crystal willow]

because tile hit puts them in infirmary. they don’t die unless your infirmaries are full.

[thick narwhal]

When will we know assignments for wk?

[crystal willow]

when the event starts

[steep sphinx]

You can sorta guess by checking whose close to you in the leaderboard but it's rather inaccurate.

[ornate palm]

Dumb question incoming, do you use first aid when sending units to their death for casualty points?

[undone plaza]

I have full occupation points right now.

Also, was there a change made to attacks in terms of casualty and kill points for defenders in hub and towers? Those stationed in hub and towers are not getting casualty or kill points for attacks from people who a members of the same state.

[blazing cliff]

Same, seems something changed

[undone plaza]

Been that way last 2-3 WKs I believe.

[rose sage]

Is that normal?

3 opponets? Normaly we got 2...

[halcyon topaz]

It says in back reading that it can happen sometimes

[sacred drum]

Question - do you get perks of state troop boosts if attack Enemy HQ and suffer casualty?

Or only applicable to you if attack hub/tower.

[marsh saddle]

No, that would reduce the amount dead and increase the amount to the infirmary which would not help what you are trying to do

[sage briar]

Anyone fighting i can watch?

[sage spear]

Kill points are specifically foreign unit.
Casualties you still get.

[sage spear]

When the brackets don’t divide by 3 it happens

[sage spear]

Only for troops lost attacking turret/hub,

[fading prairie]

Question! Coffers accumulated from another state…. Do they stay stored or do they go poop?

Poop. POOF. Close enough 😂

[covert maple]

Not often but it does happen from time to time

[marsh saddle]

They stay stored

[fading prairie]

Thank you for confirming 😂

[unreal condor]

The game doesn't load, I don't know if it's my internet or the game 😭

[wanton pond]

I doubt it. Everyone is always Nap,Nap,Nap. Would be nice to see people actually fight in Wk.

[gloomy anchor]

There's 416 and 425 fighting for 416's hub

[main shoal]

I am sorry i am sure this has been asked a thousand times - i did go through pins

Can i get causality for 300% comeback by being attacked in the mud?

I was stuck in a turret the whole time and now there is nothing for me to suicide against. Everyone state hub are secure

I am big enough troop wise i wont be zeroed in a mud hit and if medium strong 10, i will probably kill most of the troop sent to attack. But i dont want to do that and not get comeback

[marsh saddle]

Only in hubs and turrets

You will get casualty (if troops die above your infirmary limit) and kill points but won’t count towards fast comeback

[main shoal]

I thought this was the case but i can not see anything regarding it. And also wondered how game knew the difference.

Thank you

[sage briar]

If the troops come back at the end i think everyone would fight 🙌

[crystal willow]

i would still prefer sleep…

[livid gazelle]

I love naps. And I sill got 107m points

[crystal willow]

i’m talking about some real sleep 😝

[livid gazelle]

So am I. I'm old. I love naps

[wanton pond]

That’s the problem with this game for me though. Everyone wants to train troops but not willing to fight without risk. What fun is knowing you don’t lose anything. That’s like come and get your participation trophy.

[livid gazelle]

We end up with NAPs and I frequently still lose 60 - 80m might. I'm okay with the fighting. Just not with the giant gaps in might between states sometimes

[crystal willow]

S70 cannot be trusted. Broke NAP on purpose. Beware.

[river cape]

S206 is dishonourable as well.
They had a state diplomat who negotiated a decent NAP. They removed him from the position after the fact without any warning to him/her and didn’t bother to tell us that the agreement was null and void either. We didn’t know until they started taking our turrets.

[white totem]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wink-gotcha-you-tube-thanks-gif-19039548

[broken lotus]

204 took 3 hubs last WK, was the most fun I've had in awhile haha. I am sure we will pay for it next round.

[crystal willow]

might be once in a lifetime opportunity. cheers

[broken lotus]

You are probably right haha

[teal tartan]

👀

[plush wing]

If your hub is occupied, where exactly do the taxes come from?

[crystal willow]

your regular transfer tax goes to coffer. also, the 30% tax for burning a player also goes to coffer.

[river cape]

As far as I know 10% for gathering. Transport is variable depending upon your trading post level, maxing out at 10%. Hitting sanctuaries (hitting your farm for example) is 30%. It all goes to the occupying state in the form resources.

[sage spear]

There is no tax on gathering.

[river cape]

Hmmm. Thought there was for some reason. Thanks.

[uneven halo]

Will the new alliance tech tree be usable during WK? It could change the value of blocking the mud and surrounding areas out, against leaving it open.

[river cape]

Read the descriptions. Some of them actually say for SVS.

[river cape]

My question is: if an invader is straddling the territory of two alliances can they combine forces to force the invader out even faster? In other words, will we both be able to freeze the opponent, thus doubling the length of time they’re frozen? Does it have to be only the alliance of the territory the invader is in who hits, or can it be anyone from the state?
We’ve faced some 600 mil players recently. I’m not big enough to hi them, but others in state are. Would they be able to help?

[uneven halo]

Then only the forced relocate would apply during WK, but it says nothing about returning to a home state.

The freeze talent would be irrelevant during WK, as an hq in your hive, would not be targetable, so even if you freeze it, it can still send to the hub/towers?

None of the descriptions specifically mention svs, or have i read the descriptions wrong?

[river cape]

Hmmmm, this makes me wonder. If an alliance has part of their territory within the wasteland, will freeze work?

[uneven halo]

Yeah, so no good during WK, as an hq within the hive isn't in the wasteland. And alliance area ends at the edge of the wasteland

But the relocate will only port them from the hive, not out of state?

[river cape]

It looks that way. One way to find out for sure though.

[uneven halo]

Looks like we'll need to stock up on extra march speedups for valiant, so we can attack from outside the hive.

[river cape]

Yup. It would be nice too, although I understand why it isn’t this way, if we could get a nuka type marker for our spot within the hive.

[sage briar]

Max nova march is better for vc farming than speedups

[lusty oar]

If a state is conquered and the top might gets control of the gate. Is it static? Or does who has it at the time get 2 weeks?

[fickle narwhal]

So they way I understand it is that one is more of a use for VC than WK but you can use freeze then force relocate and the game might count it as a "defeat" sending them back to their state. Will be interesting to see what happens to people taking a hub in another alliances territory and then being forced relocated. That could make a drastic change in the strength of the hub being taken if their troops are removed as well.

[lusty oar]

Nobody answers me lol

[livid gazelle]

Not quite sure what you're asking. If your state gets conquered as far as I know the strongest in the state can set the HQ level. But I think there's limits on how low or high they can go.

[rugged marlin]

I think they are asking if Player A is highest might when the state is conquered and can control what Hqs come in, but 3 days later Player B has higher might, does Player B take control of the hq level coming in state or does Player A have the ability the full 2 weeks even if they drop from highest might in state?
I honestly don't have an answer for this one sadly 😔

[livid gazelle]

Neither do I. Hope someone can answer

[fickle narwhal]

It may just be that no one knows. I've never been in a state that has been taken over so I have no idea. Good luck in finding your answer though.

[lusty oar]

Yes, that was my question. Thanks for replying. It sounds like nobody knows lol.

[livid gazelle]

Yeah, our strongest in state has always been high enough that we couldn't catch him. Now we have a few getting closer

[covert maple]

My state was the same as Gerber - there wasn’t anyone close enough in might to take the top might position within the 2 weeks that they had control over the state HQ lvl. Hopefully someone else sees it and can answer your question.

[crystal willow]

a good way to test is when top might drops during VC

[covert maple]

Good thinking! you’re so upstairs for thinking to my downstairs for dancin.

[warped bronze]

★HK69★#9883

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U here?

[past canyon]

Cool

[white totem]

well all new states with hq 40 they never agree a nap

[livid gazelle]

Did you put this in the wrong discord?

[crystal willow]

probably. no links allowed here anyways

[livid gazelle]

I is it wrong that I really wanted to post a picture of Link?

[crystal willow]

lol what for?

[livid gazelle]

You said no Links allowed

[crystal willow]

well it depends on circumstances of course. pictures of links can still be considered links

[shadow hare]

Quick question. Once you are appointed governor can you give the governor title to someone else or is it permanently yours for those 2 weeks?

[fresh prairie]

Permanent for 2 weeks

[shadow hare]

Thank you❤️

[deep quiver]

I am aide for our state and I can't get the title list to open...had a couple of players to title today. Is it locked down before WK for some reason?

[fresh prairie]

Should be able to until just before wasteland king states

[sudden anvil]

@devs did anyone else in their states get a TOTALLY mismatched state battle?

[thin crystal]

Hello, we have 4 states this wasteland. Is that normal? 😂

[crystal willow]

yes, your division has one extra state, and 4 will be matched together

[thin crystal]

And why is that?

[crystal willow]

say your division has 10 states, 3 states are matched together, until the last 4 states have to be matched together

[thin crystal]

Awwww that is a news! We never knew that from the past years

[crystal willow]

also if your division has 8 states, there could be only 2 states matched

[thin crystal]

Well that never happened before tho. Haha

[livid gazelle]

We only got 1 one wasteland

[vale rivet]

Morning all~ do we still get 300% buff even we'll be colonization?

[crystal willow]

yes, the 300% is guaranteed

[thin crystal]

Ahh that is nice! Seems like reswar instead

[vale rivet]

Thanks

[thin crystal]

Never happened to my state

[vale rivet]

👍 👍

[livid gazelle]

We were match with a much bigger state. It hurt a bit

[crystal willow]

i think they should probably implement opt-in bye rounds

[thin crystal]

Ouch. Been there done that tho. Met with HOP 😂

[thin crystal]

Btw how do you know my division?

[crystal willow]

i don’t know your division

[livid gazelle]

I see a few of them during Nuka. At least I did until the time change

[thin crystal]

Ya well, i can say its not a good wk with 4 states 😌

[crystal willow]

valiant might be fun

[thin crystal]

Play hide and seek? 😂

[livid gazelle]

Isn't that every valiant?

[thin crystal]

4 states are more fun to play hide and seek haha

[livid gazelle]

True

[finite lion]

Any idea anyone, does zenith war in new states give 300% training boost for troop loss?

[livid gazelle]

Wish I could help, been a long time since I had a Zenith

[finite lion]

Any mod on?

[livid gazelle]

<@&742285797725569104>

[quartz flame]

[quartz flame]

Unless it's been changed, no

[finite lion]

👆

Ok

[quartz flame]

Changes tend to happen without any warning or clear update

[finite lion]

Hmmmm

Ty anyways

[quartz flame]

Since its casualties from your own state member it wouldn't work by it's wording

[pseudo pebble]

We got the 300% training boost up to 120% of might lost after our first zenith in 463 @finite lion

[finite lion]

Thanks sis

[novel night]

Out of curiosity. How do you get a shield before the 8 hours is complete?

[livid gazelle]

Take another state hub

[novel night]

That makes sense. Thank you. 433 is asking us to remove 445 from their hub. 🙏

[livid gazelle]

You're welcome

[mellow granite]

@covert maple @latent granite Can you relocate to a WK state while in frenzy already?

[covert maple]

Hi - just tested with my mini (I couldn’t remember) yup - went in to a WK state and back home under war frenzy

[mellow granite]

So you were in war frenzy when you first left your state to the other one?

[covert maple]

I scouted an inactive in my own state first; then went to the WK event tab clicked attack, then ported in on their green out of the way, stayed a couple mins while still in frenzy and ported home via the event tab.

[mellow granite]

Awesome!!! You’re the best. Thanks so much!! 💋

[sage briar]

RIP 305

[livid gazelle]

What?

[rose halo]

305 didnt had the hq40 i think their strongest player migrated to s266

[sage briar]

Wow i thought he was the one building the 30billion alliance, why would he leave 😳

[rose halo]

No idea i didnt saw him in s305 this WK the previous was there but now i see him in s266

[drowsy schooner]

Where is the 300% training boost found? Not seeing it anywhere. Thanks for the help.

[real warren]

Your Governor has to start it

[drowsy schooner]

Thanks everyone! I was lOoking in the wrong spot.

[real warren]

Question. I started the 300% training boost about 10 hours before the end of WK because we had a lot of fighting. I have done this before with no issues. But I have people telling me that casualties they got after I started the boost aren't counted. That doesn't sound right to me. Did I mess up?

[livid gazelle]

Pretty sure it only counts with troops lost in turrets or hub. We're you still fighting over them?

[real warren]

We were helping another state. So we were holding the hub and turrets, yes, just not in our own state.

The main concern they're telling me is that troop loss after I set the boost wasn't counted. I feel like they're wrong but it is important to know for next time.

[real warren]

Figured it out. Found someone who only played after the boost was set.

So. Can someone explain why when I lost almost 10mil might, all from taking attacks in turrets and hub that I only have a training boost of 1008?

[livid gazelle]

It's a percentage of what you lost I think.