🆚doomsday-expedition

[blissful escarp]

i just knew it lol

[zenith jay]

I think im doing good with those tasks but the lions nope

[blissful escarp]

lol, back to my original question - can the wrenches be converted to something else? lol

[zenith jay]

I hope it be saved for next doomsday and use it lol

[blissful escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-creed-in-your-dreams-dreams-gif-25984561

[zenith jay]

Lets hope something good from PNS lol

[mint blade]

You have kill points 😕

[dreamy laurel]

Naah

[cursive oak]

There are two safe areas that are faded lol wonder what happened

[ocean laurel]

Cut off mabye ? Their home base is elsewhere

[cursive oak]

Possible

There is no flag

The color scheme is hard to follow

There’s two other pinks on our map. I’m not merged with lol

[hot stirrup]

This event is even worse this time than last. Most of the participants got almost nothing. Don't be surprised if no one shows up next time, I am sorry I did. You need to make this fair and not be so dominated by bigger alliances who have no interest in fair play. If you just want to hand your biggest player's rewards then do so and don't bother the rast of us.

[cursive oak]

Oh no. Whose the big alliance

[hot stirrup]

ITA

[cursive oak]

Oooo

[vale moat]

It’s a tournament

And a war game

[jaunty shuttle]

CAN someone tell me how to know how long i play this game ?

[cursive oak]

Well. Atleast 3 years

[vale moat]

Go look at a newer state it should tell you

[cursive oak]

lol

[hot stirrup]

I get that, but it will be a pretty crappy event if no one elects to play, most of our factions have already quit the event in our section, congrats on your tournament being over 3 days early.

[jaunty shuttle]

Thanks all got my answer

[cursive oak]

Did you try merging

[hot stirrup]

Actually we did an were willing to accept that even then we couldn't take and hold a 4 above from the bigger players, But that isn't enough for them as they now drive us back to our safe zone. It won't get them rewards, only being done to make sure no one else does. Our members are healing their troops and leaving as soon as it is done.

[low pebble]

You can say that, but everyone knows the matchmaking is complete bs. If it were even remotely fair, you'd see the mega alliances from states like 441, 831, 538,etc, be placed on a map together. That won't happen though. They'll all get paired with 39 much weaker alliances and only they get rewards while everyone else begs for scraps.

[vale moat]

That’s how tournament style seeding works

NBA, World Cup … then don’t put the best together in the beginning

[low pebble]

That's the point people are trying to make. If you continue to make events not worth participating in, no one is going to show up.

[vale moat]

There’s no money in putting the top alliances together, they’ll just wait for the next DD

[low pebble]

Greed above all else. It is the PnS way, I guess.

[vale moat]

You put them the same alliances together, over and over, leads to less spending and fatigue

Top 25 meet each other all the time, every week in events

[vale moat]

It’s business and every tournament in the world is like that

Imagine major sports not seeding tournament style

That sport would die

There’s studies on matching, even in pixel world

[low pebble]

Tournament seeding typically means the best meeting each other in the finals. DD isn't like that. It isn't a tournament. They've set up a slaughter system for the mega alliances. 🤣🤣

Reswar tourney. Tundra tourney. Those are seeded tournaments. DD isn't like that.

[vale moat]

You put the top 20 on one map, the event will have no chance of success ever
No revenue

[low pebble]

Money above all else.

[vale moat]

Yeah, it’s a business

[low pebble]

At least it's being admitted to

[vale moat]

🤷‍♀️

I’d rather have this than games with ads popping up every 3 minutes

[cursive oak]

So we can’t declare war on 7?

[fathom karma]

You can

Glitched?

[cursive oak]

I don’t have an option anywhere

[fathom karma]

We have war declared on eye of the sand Sea interesting

[ocean laurel]

I did hours ago

[cursive oak]

Even tho it wasn’t opened? Maybe puff did already

Oh he did

[ocean laurel]

Yes the count down will end when the bubble pops

[ocean laurel]

When M does it yes that 😂

[compact lion]

when is last flying day for dooms day for those playing in the 700 states

[white whale]

Appears that you’ll need to be there by 3/23. #📄bulletin-notes message

[compact lion]

danka

[vale moat]

I’m locking the doors 3/21 lol no exit!

[white whale]

Should be auto locked then. It’s a Saturday.

[vale moat]

WK Weekend

[sinful oak]

Hi good morning

Can you jump pass a trade station?

[cursive oak]

To another section? No

It’s not a pass

Just a battle ground

[sinful oak]

Thank you for replying

[neat cypress]

how many times we have repeat champions in major sports? how many times we have the same top 4 teams in the top 4? oh BTW major sports in US have spending cap... in major sports small teams with limited resources still have something to play for, because there are major upsets, so they HAVE a chance. In this game you can put my alliance against hof, mof etc they will win 10000 out of 10000 times. Point is in sports small teams have something to play for, here they have none. This is business that's it, but at least don't tell people how they are "fixing" matchmaking, they don't and they have no intention to do so

but i will shut up, i learned my lesson, last time i spoke here pns muted one of my accounts forever in in-game chat 😂

[fathom plover]

Any screenshots or lists of items available in Diamond Shop I am hearing about? If I am even understanding that correctly 👀
I searched but does not seem one is available/posted

[fathom karma]

They are trade stations only screenshot I have on hand of some of the stuff... you'll also find advance material for cheaper than the 4 week shop... I was buying protons where it was 5 diamonds per 1. Tubes were 50 diamonds per 1... and if they are held by your faction they are cheaper by a little but more👀

Alot of us were doing math and everything is a decent price. Great place to stock up on aps too.

[fathom plover]

Nice! Thanks. I’m sure it’ll be a bit clearer when in the event but that at least provides an insight

You have zero diamonds! 😳

[white whale]

Shovels soon? 🤣

[fathom karma]

I can see em doing another spend before ap with how easy they aps are to get ahold of currently in dd

My t11 has 256 aps currently 🤣

[fathom karma]

That was after I bought a bunch of protons dont let it fool ya I got 9k now lol

[white whale]

Was thinking more of making people decide if they want to save diamonds for shovels or trade stations 😂

[fathom karma]

Why save diamonds when you can get 2 ap for 1k diamonds

[cursive oak]

What a rally

[fathom karma]

Here are some of the varieties that you'll see👀

I went and got screenshots of whatever was different from each other lol

[fathom plover]

Oh damn. Sweet!

If you buy all of the available X item in one shot, that counts as one purchase for the day? Or you can only buy ten of X item per day?

[cursive oak]

8 buys a day

[fathom plover]

What I mean is can I drag a bar and buy all remaining quantity of tavern coins (for example) and that counts as “one” purchase?

[fathom karma]

You can only buy 1 thing of each

[fathom plover]

Ah rats. Still better than nothing

[fathom karma]

So its 10 seperate purchases through out all trade stations daily

[old echo]

Holy wow

[blissful escarp]

i think they are randomized, no?

[fathom karma]

No clue. But they were just curious of things you can see and prices

[fading spindle]

Is doomsday with the TOP 5 together on one Map for 301 - and above, or the TOP 5 are split on different maps?

[fathom karma]

split up.it is not impossible to see your state though

[distant geyser]

Will these be the same time slots for rollout to S301+?

[unborn wasp]

As far as we know, though it is subject to change

[compact lion]

dumb question cause I can't find it anywhere no more is showdown the first or second week of doomsday?

[white whale]

Showdown is every three weeks, along with Tundra. It will be the week of the 23rd. #1439511054261551148 message

[blissful escarp]

this thing is growing like weed

[azure horizon]

not everyone is deep pockets.

question is tomorrow night at reset the end of fighting in doomsday or sunday night at reset the end of actual fighting

[fathom karma]

nom noms

[plush cove]

Yeah I'm kind of happy with what I got so far and that's including the boxes I already bought

[blissful escarp]

but they are kinda mean on the silver

[plush cove]

Yeah

[cursive oak]

I have 6600

[unborn wasp]

I'm at 6140 right now, not too bad

[potent mirage]

Can you play VC while in doom? Or just in state?

[old elbow]

This event was set up for the big spender alliance to get all the rewards while smaller alliance gets scraps.

[vale moat]

You have to leave the DD map

[potent mirage]

Thanks, that’s what I thought but being told otherwise

[vale moat]

Nope no VC in Doom

I mean you can get hit in a non friendly territory… but that’s not part of vc

[cursive oak]

You could negotiate a merge

And yeah. This is a pay to win game

In watching all the little alliances fight. It’s nice to see

[old elbow]

Yeah its awesome fighting a alliance that 400 billion might

And they zero all your headquarters

[cursive oak]

Oh must be in my doom

[old elbow]

I been playing for almost 5 years this is a trash event

[fathom karma]

Thsts why ya keep your booty bubbled or in safe zone

That's what we tell our folks or they'll sit up under ours 40s for protection

[cursive oak]

Whose winning your doom

[vale moat]

We are all 5+ years in
I love Doom🤷‍♀️

[vale moat]

Ooops

Safe zone or shielded outside is a must if you can’t take a few hits from your opponents

[blissful escarp]

nice. saved me a shield

[stiff cedar]

doom factions in my bracket were fairly reasonable, almost everyone is merged

[exotic bone]

Is there a clear winner or evenish ?

[stiff cedar]

Top faction took level 7 and on 30k but everything has been agreed upon

Ours is second with level6 and 15k

[blissful escarp]

rank doesn’t really matter i think

[analog mason]

Hi! We are stuck on our map and looking to merge in doom. Could you answer a quick question if we merge with someone on the other side of the state can we travel there for more territory or when we be stuck here and they’ll be there appreciate and thank you so much. I’ve been reading your other answers. You’re very concise! I appreciate that.

[fathom karma]

Yes you can port round the territories if you merge into someone

[empty schooner]

Do yours listen 😂 to be fair I got hit. A good friend hasn’t been heard from him in some time and I’ve been very concerned about him, one of his members of his alliance reached out to me and I was in the middle of a non safe and just the second that I opened it to say have you heard from him I had a 45 sit next to me & got hit. So it happens.

[fathom karma]

Oh for sure they do. And they always ask for reins if they port up to a battle area. It also helps we point out safe areas too. Our guys are cautious... minus the 1 that gets zeroed at least once every dd

[stuck kestrel]

Is his name Leroy? 🤣

[white whale]

Or Blue?

[fathom karma]

Definitely not me I hide behind the scary guys and get left alone lol

[plush cove]

Last name Jenkins

[azure valve]

Hello! Hope everyone is having a great one! Quick Question regarding qualification and Sorry if its been asked before!

Do we have to be in the Top 5 before the 22nd or the 25th?

[vale moat]

I’m having everyone move in before registration starts

[fathom karma]

Before registration

[vale moat]

I have trust issues

[cursive oak]

Yes before also lol

[azure valve]

Okie dokie Thank you!!❤️

[south eagle]

Are rallies (on walls, bases) supposed to be open to whole factions or just your actual alliance?

[cursive oak]

Alliance

And you can’t rally walls

Or centers

Just trade stations and HQs

[indigo magnet]

Can we keep any unused any Warhound designs for next time

[cursive oak]

Yes

[indigo magnet]

Thanks. I need to keep notes for next time

[indigo magnet]

Ok. Just checking to make sure we are on the same page. What I was inquiring about were the designs to create war hounds

[cursive oak]

Yup lol

[still belfry]

Anyone heard a rumor that there are "3 levels" to doomsday matchmaking? As in, 3 groups depending on the might of the alliance registering
Someone is claiming it may be advantageous not to be in the strongest alliance to avoid going against 1b+ true might players.....wondering how true this is

[vale moat]

Not true

[fathom karma]

There are 3 different slots to chose for opening timing but thats it👀

[still belfry]

yeah....I thought this rumor sounds very gimmicky

thanks for confirming

[thick escarp]

I didn’t understand this bit about timings is it just it starts at different times 🫣🫣

[cursive oak]

There’s 3 time frames

[fathom karma]

You get an option of when footholds open. But you have a possibility of being placed in another one

Trade stations open an hour before that timing when they pop up

[thick escarp]

Can you remember what times zones they are?

[thick escarp]

I can go look actually I’m sure it said

Oh thanks 🤩

[fathom karma]

We did 3 before that was decent timing😂

[thick escarp]

5am 🫠🫠🫠 great 😭😭 I bet they will chose this one

[fathom karma]

We did a poll in our ally then chose most popular

[thick escarp]

Fingers crossed it’s not the 5am option

[plush cove]

Trade centers open an hour before the time you pick

that threw us off almost for the first one

[white whale]

And you have to declare war…

[cursive oak]

On 3 and up

So can’t sneak attack

[visual vessel]

Does anyone have screenshots on war declarations? Wondering what that looks like

And how much in advance do u need to declare war before u can attack?

[cursive oak]

1 hour

[visual vessel]

Thank you

[fathom karma]

It also threw us off. I was like kill points nope missed it the first time lol

[modest zodiac]

Do all footholds and trade stations open at the same time slot (like the last DD) or it is different for the different levels (like the one before)

[fathom karma]

Trade stations open an hour earlier than the timeslot you choose

Footholds will be the slot chosen

[modest zodiac]

So it's always the same time, thanks

🙏

[fathom karma]

Yep

[ruby thistle]

Do holos show up on trade stations for diamonds

[plush cove]

I didn't see them for diamonds I only saw them for purchase

[ruby thistle]

Damn

Welp hopefully sim training will be nice and wont take forever for my 10th holo

[plush cove]

May your luck be way better than mine

[fathom karma]

I only saw purchase options the whole time

[quick mantle]

So we just can’t defend our own territory that requires a declaration of war?

[fathom karma]

nope

[woven dagger]

I thought I saw holo designs for purchase and for diamonds...

Is there a place to check the calendar for the settlement shops?

[quick mantle]

So the entire event comes down to the next 9+ hours because we aren’t allowed to defend. Perfect

[fathom karma]

yep its a crappy addition we cannot rein em which makes no sense.

[woven dagger]

You can garrison held lv3+ footholds, there's just warning before anyone else can attack

[quick mantle]

But if you don’t see the warning, you can’t reinforce during an active attack. And with the 10 hour shields it has made the last two weeks pointless

[woven dagger]

If you think that border is at risk, why wouldn't you garrison?

[quick mantle]

Even if you garrison, if you’re knocked out you can’t garrison again

[woven dagger]

Isn't that the point? Defend the foothold if you have to hold it. You can abandon, declare war and reshield, but it takes time as you can't declare war on shielded or one's own footholds.

[quick mantle]

But to abandon and declare war is a two hour endeavor. During which time an active war declaration has exclusive ability to attack and they are rewarded with a 10 hour shield. If that’s the case the last day the shield should be reduced significantly.

If the point is to piss us off after spending two weeks on this event to lose it all due to the inability to be online for 10 hours straight and not actively defend a territory that is being attacked, congratulations. But this is really a garbage mechanic

[woven dagger]

I wouldn't abandon and attempt reshield if there's an active war declaration. I would defend the foothold...

[quick mantle]

We’re not going to agree on this.

If you are defending and then are knocked out, you can’t garrison additional troops even if the territory is still yours. There is no way to declare war on your own territory, so even if you are able to delay the takeover, you can’t reoccupy your own territory without abandoning it and leaving it defenseless for an hour.

This event had been enjoyable up to this part, but not being able to actively defend is a flaw.

[woven dagger]

And I don't understand why you would feel defeated about defending a foothold before it's happened... There would be other ways to strategically approach it, also.

I will also note I DO feel the war declarations are potentially needlessly complex, but we learned the circumstances and adjusted.

[quick mantle]

I wouldn’t be so upset if we could at least garrison and send reinforcements before our territory is fully taken or if the shield system (at least on this last day) was for shorter periods so we don’t have sit watching for 10+ hours for a potential attack.

Really, the not being able to defend your own territory in the middle of an attack is what has really frustrated me.

[woven dagger]

If you would be able to retake a foothold after shield expires, why would you not be able to defend the foodhold?

[quick mantle]

We can’t defend because the game won’t allow us to reinforce during an active attack. The only option is to scout or siege and they are both greyed out because we can’t declare war on our own territory

[cursive oak]

We’ve reported this several times

[gloomy basalt]

So cause of a game glitch we lose out on rewards cause we can’t defend?

[quick mantle]

This is what I’ve been complaining about this entire thread. I wouldn’t be complaining if we simply didn’t try to defend

[cursive oak]

It’s been noticed earlier

[gloomy basalt]

So are the devs gonna compensate us for this glitch??? Lots of people are gonna lose out cause they can’t figure out how to fix things.

[vale moat]

It’s not a glitch, it’s new mechanic

Odd one

[gloomy basalt]

How? Cause they took us out once they get rewarded and we can’t do anything?

[white whale]

Message CS or your gms to voice complaints about it. We have logged it in our reports. 🫤

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[vale moat]

It’s been mentioned several times times in this thread

[gloomy basalt]

I’ll go yell at my gm. It isn’t on you guys, just genuinely annoyed about it.

[vale moat]

Understandable

[gloomy basalt]

Sorry for snapping at y’all. I’ll go to my gm

[vale moat]

You are fine

[quick mantle]

Sorry for not being clear, like @gloomy basalt I’m frustrated at the game mechanics that don’t make sense and not necessarily at the people who are trying to explain and liase

[white whale]

All good. If the mechanic stays the same for the next round, there will be a lot more voices that notice. It will be good for the GMs and cs to know ahead of time.

[vale moat]

I kinda get why they added it BUT it should have been highlighted somewhere as a change

[white whale]

I’m writing on the report about what you put down into my notes about Doom. It truly is a make or break strategy at the end to not be able to garrison while being attacked.

[gloomy basalt]

So cause of a game glitch we can’t take any territory back as it ends soon and I’m now out money, troops, time and resources cause the devs don’t communicate well with its community?

[cursive oak]

We’ve been forwarding this. You can also contact CS.

[vale moat]

It’s a new mechanic that wasn’t explained, it’s been the hot topic of this thread for days

[cursive oak]

Nothing that’s going to change with 5 hours

Or be explained

[gloomy basalt]

I’m gonna go yell at any form of CS that I can. Thanks for answering

[ruby thistle]

The best bet against a stronger faction is to take the buildings u want on the last day and be protected by the shield till the end, it didnt make much sense during previous doomsday either tbh 😅

[glass basin]

Does instant heal work in DD

[cursive oak]

No

[cursive oak]

Yes

[spiral quarry]

For the upcoming doomsday expedition, what is the cutoff for joining an alliance since this starts immediately after showdown? Is it 10 or 15 min before it starts like showdown or just by the end of registration?

[gentle nest]

Do we have to spend all of our bronze coins today? Sorry if it was already answered.

I’m being told it should be open until Wednesday for the bronze coins, but I have some kind of feeling that it has to be today and that only the silver one will still be open, but I’m trying to get an answer

[gentle nest]

You have to be there before reset the time registration starts

Showdown should be during the next doomsday

[fathom karma]

Idk but my trust issues made sure I claimed mine cause I couldn't remember last dd

[minor vector]

Stayed open during settlement period last time

[torn plinth]

I've heard a side effect of bullying is paranoia. Good to know it's confirmed....

[cursive oak]

[fathom karma]

nah thats just the voices arguing

[torn plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-yeah-gif-815126498296623781

[gentle nest]

So I should be able to grab perfect frag after reset?

[cursive oak]

Yes. Maybe no

lol

[gentle nest]

Makes sense

[cursive oak]

I think so.

[fathom karma]

I aint risking it I got my goodies already in case something else broke lol

[white whale]

Were you able to?

[gloomy basalt]

When do I get these back? That’s all my t13’s and I kinda want them back for lairs😭

[cursive oak]

24 hours left to heal them

[gloomy basalt]

So I won’t get the 90% back for another 24h…

[cursive oak]

That’s right

[gloomy basalt]

Thanks😭😭😭

[sharp ocean]

how does this happen when we had 30,100 points

[vale moat]

Did you occupy the center?

[sharp ocean]

yes

[fathom karma]

its been reported

[cursive oak]

Mines the same way

Don’t mean to translate lol

[sharp ocean]

phew so not just us

[vale moat]

Someone needs to be slapped

https://tenor.com/view/fix-futurama-help-fry-fixit-gif-4525230

[gentle nest]

Yes

I ranked like 4th in nano weapons!

First time for phase 3 done

Are sand sea coins more valuable than a shiny 5% Hp frame? Always go heroes?

[white whale]

Heroes are my favorite reward

[gentle nest]

It won’t last obviously but who knows!

Already down to 22

Idk if I will even get a 1 day frame prob not

Hq skin would be nice but not everyone gets it

And if you do get it, it means way less heroes

[ocean laurel]

Mine is same way we also occupied the center

When I look at rewards it says I have it. I received the silver coins for it.

[vale moat]

What’s the flag thingy?

[unborn wasp]

You get a little flag to show on your alliance fort!

[ocean laurel]

Winning allaince fort like they did for res tourny

[sharp ocean]

oh that is cool

[brave dome]

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[atomic rapids]

Is this top-10 of 40 alliances from one map or they all merged to 10 at the end?

[rough prairie]

• the match up isnt always great through different servers. So, depending on the situation, it might not be beneficial for mergers if reward stay the same without merging. It doesnt have to be double the rewards, but perhaps there should be more rewards for mergers

• in that same tone, some merged alliances stonewall other alliances from rewards by leaving them at r1. If the merged alliance leader can have some say upon merging, eg temp r5 for 24 hours, it will prevent this from happening. This can also assist the faction leader to help pull people up in ranks instead of trying to do 300 at a time, for example.

• not a fan of the declare war thing. Part of strategies often includes sneak attacks. Even though i am the victim of sneak attacks myself, declaring war ruins the sneak. In a server full of certain types of people, thats also equivalent to asking us to "hi can i please beat you". Frankly, i have no idea of the purpose behind it besides delaying us if we forgot to declare war.

• i did really enjoy the vault thing, if we could have more of such mini games where the rest of the alliance can join in too.

• i think previously, we could have come in and out of doomsday for the 3 days after the chronicle close. If we could have the same still please. Its nice to go 3 days without thinking of impending pvp 🤣🤣 that, and we enjoyed the different scenery. Though, to be fair, my map of people really like the egyptian theme.

• since we could still pick up rewards after the final chronicle ends, please also allow us to draw more of the battle cars.

Finally, we had a good time in map 6. Our a01, Armpit and his alliances, were super friendly, kind and understanding people. My neighbours from various states were also awesome. We had a fun time, winning, losing and challenging tiles. Thanks for this.

[eternal oyster]

All rewards should be available regardless if first or second or even last. Our biggest player in our state hass enough points for the skin but unble to purchase. Like many others he probably won't return to this ridiculous event.

[rough prairie]

Wtf, why wont he have enough points. Thats ridiculous. Poor thing

[eternal oyster]

He does have enough, needs 20k and has 22k but you have to win the event to get a chance to get either skin.

[rough prairie]

The thing is once you buy the skin, you cant get anything else at that level of points. Doesnt seem great for the winner either

[eternal oyster]

Nope not really....the whole idea and execution of doomsday needs scrapped to be honest

And can't change my mind 🤣 😂

[rough prairie]

Couple more things:

• buttons for declare war and demolish is super tiny. We need to fight the building anyways, why put a tiny button. Just get rid of the button.

[rough prairie]

Lol i like doomsday even though each time i want to slap a couple of people, but thats me and my anger management issues

[tawdry sonnet]

We where in same map with AO1 (GO7)they AO1 allowed us buildings,and although not part of negotiating team i think it was a fair situation.

Wrong merge ended up 2nd strongest but that's the fall of the dice.

I also had enough coins for skin but couldn't buy it because we didn't take centre building.

The trade buildings had decent stuff to either buy with diamonds or money.

I would say if you have enough silver coins you should be able or allowed to get skin.
Me for one chased the silver coins from the start and at 1 stage had 10 mil troops in infirmaries...

Devs should really look into allowing it..
Some go for different items in final silver shop,
Maybe a wider variety to enable players to get stuff they really need to up their HQ's?
Also the wrenches, have a wider variety of obtaing them.
For example if you in a weaker alliance and can't secure buildings from word go you'll have a tough time getting your tech tree properly developed going deeper into the event...
Yes I know not everybody spends but for those who's willing to spend give them the option..
Or put those in the trade store as options.

[silk blade]

The matchmaking in our server was horrific, there was one alliance that hugely mismatched all the others, even by merging, none of the other factions could compete with them. Because of this, none of the other factions got to experience the trade stations as the biggest faction took them all. Also because of the mismatch, the war decleration worked agains all the smaller factions. on lower level footholds it was possible if we were quick to sneak in and attack and take them, however. there was no chance of doing this on the higher level footholds as the war decleration would alert of plans to attack and the walls would be stacked and we wouldnt be able to clear them, let alone assult the centres.

[ocean laurel]

That’s just top 10 of my map. There was probably 15-20 teams still people didn’t merge a ton

Main take away is fix that glitch where the wall cannot be battled for because you cannot declare war on your own buildings. Level 3-7 is glitched out and needs to be fixed. If you are going to have a declare war feature make it work right

[opaque hull]

Rewards shouldn't depend on ranks in fraction. Everyone should get the same amount of coins and other stuff, doesn't matter if he was r4 or r3 etc. This only honoring the biggest in each fraction and smaller have to struggle to get anything they need or want to get. Thats why this event will suck all the time

[blissful escarp]

what’s the point of allowing us to claim the warhound design if it cannot be used any more 🤷‍♂️

[tawdry sonnet]

See the Avatar now can be bought even if you got community ....

Would be awesome if that happened earlier already used my coins....🤨 😫

[cursive oak]

I agree with this

[still tree]

Many of the top players in the game fly to the first 300 States to beta test Doomsday. Their feedback is invaluable to making the experience better for everybody else. Immigration flights should be offered in a rewards store for the Doom event so these Commanders can have their flights returned or use them to fly forward and do it again a second time.

[night surge]

1. The matchmaking was broken the first go around and an emergency update had to be done.
2. Matchmaking was horrible. Why would a 191b might alliance be matched with a 3b might alliance?
3. Doom chat was beyond broken. Showing all dooms sometimes.
   And all that ☝️ was before it even started.
4. The higher level tiles didn't populate until players started complaining and devs fixed that.
5. The demolish button and the buttons for Trading Stations were so difficult to find. Move them up into the main box.
6. The last chronicle rewards didn't work until players started complaining and devs fixed it.
   There were a lot of other things that didn't work until we said "hey fix this"
7. Faction mail is still broken and gets hidden by alliance mail. It's the worst right around the times that buildings opened, so players were missing important information. I talked extensively with my GM about that last doomsday so I thought it was fixed...nope.
   I have to finally admit that I love Doomsday, but they make it difficult to enjoy when stuff like this gets left broken.

Personally I really hope it goes back to being a state event. Changing it from state to being an alliance event with 1 week notice was really dirty business. Please find a way to fix matchmaking so that we can have real competitions.

[fathom karma]

Omg I hated that demolish button I kept hitting wall instead

[opaque hull]

That was their choice

And they didn't moved bc they wanted better experiebce for anyone. They just wanted the doom rewards from that event before it started in their states

Stop glazing big players, bc each new update in game, each events are made for them

[fathom karma]

*I did not like merging i definetly preferred being with my state but we did merge into nice folks. Merging is put of my comfort zone for playing nice with strangers I just end up mute and hiding in ally chat.
*The broken battle chat... faction mails are disappearing again and not giving a read dot that needs fixing...and the banners from other maps needs to stop...and broken last chronicle wasn't cool at reset lol
*Options for first season heros was nice. I got to core ally first seasoners finally!!!!
*I hate how packed the map is
*Massive lack of tiles on right side of map.First time I saw 8+ I was ported in a 4 area which was crazy😂
*Trade stations for cheap advanced materials was nice. But there are milestone for these as an alliance so you cannot help your faction when they take em. So weaker alliance won't achieve those unless a deal is worked out with stronger folks on maps. But was good for kills if there are a bunch of naps.
*Pairups still suck so many babies stuck in their safe zone cause no chanve by any of us👀
*The milestone needs to be fixed for 1k sandworms and let even joiner count that gave us all a stress headache since it's amongst your alliance

[hot meadow]

I hated this version of this event. Everything was broken. Its hard to say anything good about current version. This wasn't an enhancement to event, it was a dramatic change.

The matchup were ridiculous. All the last minutes updates during and after registration and signup were confusing and not helpful to final matchups.

Im trying to find one positive thing to say about this version, I am at a lost.

[lapis sinew]

• The match making was terrible. The scoreboard showed that basically it was a competition for whatever TEQ decided they wanted to leave alone and most of the map was frozen into a stalemate for half of the competition. There was also very little point even trying to get a trade centre
• The doom chat was filled with all sorts of automatically regenerated announcements which no one was interested in and which actually disrupted interaction between people
• Opening up the event to all levels is fine- but rather pointless unless you make it possible for littles to get kill points and for points to be given for killing lower tier troops
• The reward system is very unbalanced. Whilst I agree that officers and R4 should get rewarded for their extra contributions- the rewards for R1-3 needs to be good enough for those players to think that this event is worth participating in
• Whilst someone has to take charge of a fraction- alliances in a fraction should be guaranteed at least 1 officer position and a certain minimum proportion of the r4 positions. Perhaps rewards for R1-3 could be decided based on participation. Understandably- this is not necessarily possible with the officer and R4 positions as a lot of the work they put in is harder to measure
• If it was possible for alliances to exchange seeds and rallies within a fraction or even run sonic, firefly or showdown together within the fraction- this would probably help the interaction between fractions
• The declaration of war addition really decreased the strategic options
• Allowing alliances to join in rallies against the foothold walls and centre would be a welcome additions
• Some of the colours on the map were too similar and the text not the easiest to read
• It would be good if there was a better mechanism for scheduling attacks

[cursive oak]

I mean. Teq fought for the win. We did the same

[white whale]

Thanks for the honest feedback. I’ve documented your points made in my report. 😀

[white whale]

What were you finding to be the biggest issues for your alliance?

What would improve the event for you and your team?

[compact sleet]

Hello, quick question about the upcoming Doomsday: will each alliance be a faction? Or will a faction be an entire state?

[lavish atlas]

Each alliance is a faction

[compact sleet]

OK thanks

[unborn wasp]

Only top 5 alliances qualify from each state!

[tribal wigeon]

Will we be given a chance to fill in a questionnaire about this Doomsday? Personally I thought it was the worse one, and would like to give my feedback officially

[lavish atlas]

The feedback here is being passed back directly to the developers, we're still waiting to hear if there will be more surveys directly in game.

[tribal wigeon]

Ok thank you

[lapis sinew]

hard not use a stupid amount of relocates if you are very active in this event

[tribal wigeon]

My abridged feedback:

1. making it an alliance event instead of a state one, meant that in our state all the bigs from each alliance joined one, leaving the other 4 alliances under strength, this was done on the belief that the maps would be matched fairly for might.
2. The matching on the maps was terrible, most of the alliances on our map were twice our might, and the strongest one was far higher than the rest, which left to them dominating and everyone else scrambling to make the points.
3. Factions merging could have been dealt with much better, would have been nice to interact with them more, and basically become 1 alliance.
4. Expedition Tech was better last time, when you could choose between two options of where to use it.
5. Trade Stations were a waste of time with the mismatching of alliances on the map, only the 2 or 3 biggest ones could come close to taking them.
6. For me this Doomsday was geared exclusively for the biggest alliances and biggest spenders to get all the rewards, what should have happened is all the biggest alliances on one map to battle it out fairly, then the next 40 in might on a map and so on, so each map would have been a fair playing field. Instead it made sure all the biggest alliances were given a map they could dominate, so they had their egos massaged, and made them feel good about all the money they have put into the game, and the rest of us were just their cannon fodder….

[fathom karma]

Relocates actually weren't an issue for me. I surprisingly didn't use many and chronicles kept giving 1 back to me👀

[lavish atlas]

Last time was a lot less from the previous since we got free entry/exits(?), any changes to them this round? Never feel like I have enough, but ended up with many more than I expected after previous.

I feel like I easily dropped 300+ first non-beta DD, that was insane

160-180 enough for an active DD this round?

[fathom karma]

You still get your seat saver

[lavish atlas]

Sweet!

[fathom karma]

Although there was a glitch that threw my farm back into safe no clue what that was about

My 13 still has 30 directs and I was porting a bunch in dd

[lapis cedar]

Ugh this hole game not worth it bad rewards some r5s and r4s they thing they are something.

And they say tactics the only tactics I see is $$

[white whale]

What would make it better?

[slate topaz]

That’s a good tactic

[vale moat]

Damn r5s

The worst

[cursive oak]

Damn R5s I agree

[unborn wasp]

Definitely the worst

[signal remnant]

I was in a fairly competitive alliance and then faction, so my personal experience wasnt terrible (finished community L). But the matchmaking was seriously flawed. There were alliances who could barely hold two areas on the map. Maybe just looking at full might, it looked like they made an attempt to balance the alliances. But based on naked might (what really matters), not even close. The outcome of the match was decided in match making, and had little to do with skill or tactics or the things that would make this event fun.

The first round of the trade war was interesting. With 8 stations at once, more than the same 4 whales could take one. Maybe limiting the number of times a single person can occupy would give others more opportunities (or just make a more balanced match).

There was a wall "glitch" which made it impossible to defend your wall at some point (after the wall troops were dead, I think). Then they fixed the glitch. So we lost a bunch of land because of the glitch, but couldnt use it to help ourselves get it back. Not a fair situation. They should have not changed the mechanics mid event.

Only two 6s on the map is pretty lame. Only two factions can get decent rewards. Camp rewards are a joke for 2 weeks. If I was a low ranked player, there would not be much incentive for me to participate. We saw many of the smaller alliances stop showing up and just give up. "Just join a faction" isn't an option when you are too small, the bigs won't want you and joining many small alliances is equally pointless if they dont have a high naked might person to make them competitive.

My experience and thoughts, hope it helps.

[coral rock]

Doomsday
feedback
Positives

• Trade Stations were a good addition for kill points and purchases (items you normally can’t buy easily). Add halos please!
• Vaults - another good addition meant bigs and smalls in our alliance all got useful prizes
• Rss tiles, always great to walk away with loads of rss even if the tiles did start out scarce
• Event Tavern / Noah’s Tavern - the hero frags were really generous after the event. Never seen my alliance so happy!

Negatives

• Start times - not a USA timezone friendly option in the three slots, ppl getting up at 5am. Why not a +1 reset time like waterbottles?
• Alliance vs State participation - super alliances were created, so what was the point? We love playing as a state, it’s an intense two weeks and it lightens the load.
• The map. It was so hard to read the territory names, tell colours apart or know which territory was being attacked in real time. Please simplify it.
• Banners - I know there was apparently a bug, it was annoying when a territory looked like it was being attacked and it wasn’t. Especially after you tried to find that territory on the colour hellscape map.

My 2 cents 🙂

[ocean laurel]

@plush cove the horrors!

[ocean laurel]

I would not come to a top 40 doom tbh to expensive for my blood. I feel people miss that they were seeding 30 maps so you are going to get 1-5 allainces around eachother in size and then the others are incentivized to merge

[thick escarp]

I’ve a suggestion for the developers what to do with it - please when it’s the expedition stop things alliance showdown it’s hard work to do it

[tribal wigeon]

As stated above merging doesn’t work for the smaller alliances, no point 4 small alliances merging, doesn’t help the, nobody else wants a small alliance added to theirs.
On our map the two strongest alliances merged, took all lands level 4 up and every trade station every time.
How would merging help any of the other 38 alliances, we were left to fight over the scraps and camp L at most. What incentive is there for players in those 38 alliances?
Just sitting watch the big boys play

[cursive oak]

The have never halted showdown for anything

[cursive oak]

I’m sorry.

[thick escarp]

I know it’s just so hard when you leave your alliance to join another we are now at risk of demotion and losing rewards and we won’t be the only ones (

[tribal wigeon]

When you are the strongest on the map, all the others want to merge with you, just makes sense to take in the biggest so you don’t have to fight for anything, just take all the land you wants d get the rewards for no casualties or effort

[ocean laurel]

We merged with 4 alliances because the net rewards at r2 when winning are better then 4th place

[old silo]

I enjoyed the alliance faction aspect personally

[cursive oak]

In 5 years I was demoted once. It felt good to have a relaxed showdown lol

[tribal wigeon]

R3 rewards for the top alliance is still better than any rank rewards for camp L, if you cannot beat the strongest join them, don’t fight them, making for a boring 2 weeks knowing there id absolutely nothing you can do do why bother trying?

[tribal wigeon]

Great if you could join the stronger alliance and were not too small to be accepted.
As I already stated this Doomsday was designed just for the biggest alliances to dominate all the maps, all the rest of us were just there to be dominated so the ‘bigs’ felt good. Same as Wasteland Conquest but that doesn’t last for 14 full days…

[plush cove]

Seriously. You tagged me for that?

We took in 3 alliances at the end. We only gave their R4s R3 status but it was the end of the event when we did this. They had to do nothing to get it

[fathom karma]

Heck no I still need my regular goodies

[tribal wigeon]

Did you take in the smallest alliances trapped in a corner?

[plush cove]

We reached out to a few groups on the map. Took in 3 that actually responded

[ocean laurel]

It freed the trapped alliances to get 3k points for the biggest to take on 4

[plush cove]

It was also the final days of the event

[tribal wigeon]

I reached out to every other faction on the map, only 1 replied…..because the biggest alliances to had every level 4 land upwards it was hard to get the points with just the two of us

[fathom karma]

Super sweet of yall

I think by the time 7 was taken I saw a bunch of littlers merge and get more territory on ours. We were chilling in the center of the map lol

[plush cove]

One of the factions on our map were under 3b might total

[lavish atlas]

So excited, why can't it start this week?!?!?!

[tribal wigeon]

So far everyone I have spoke to had the same problem 1 or 2 super strong factions taking all the centre and all the littles left to fight over the scraps

[plush cove]

It was how it was set up

I think most of the maps had that.

[ocean laurel]

For us it took 3 Allie’s as a faction to win.

[cursive oak]

Close your eyes. And it starts

[lavish atlas]

I close my eyes and it never ends!

[ocean laurel]

There was no strong strong favorite on our our map, it mostly depended on the merges about 6-8 allainces made

[plush cove]

We were bigger than the 2nd alliance by 150b and the 3rd alliance by 200b

[fathom karma]

That's how it'll always be. There isn't a perfect match making. Never will be but this round of dd imo was the worst for baby babies of alliances

[plush cove]

That would have been way more fun

[ocean laurel]

It was

[tribal wigeon]

Exactly it was designed as an event to just make the bigs feel good
Thanks for being honest

[ocean laurel]

And we fought for ussually atleast one trade station for the full hour

[plush cove]

We had a couple we ran the clock out on just to help people get kills

[ocean laurel]

Also the no defense glitch on all territories over 3 gave us some back and forth, Zenga put his best foot forward and we had a blast

[plush cove]

It doesn't really feel good. We put a no HQ hit in place with our people from the start because it isn't fun to kill for no reason

[fathom karma]

I did like trade centers split up the map though it felt like it held back the more massive clashes for a bit👀

[plush cove]

It's nice to have an easy win, but way more fun when there's a fight

[ocean laurel]

This right here is why everyone hated tundra 😂 no rewards no points no fun

[tribal wigeon]

We tried for 1st rounds of trade station and two of our biggest got zeroed by a monster account just hitting hq’s, didn’t try again

[plush cove]

We tried to reign in people to let the points build up but it was hard to get people to listen

[ocean laurel]

I believe it depended on what map you were on. I know our map like Gerbs we had no hq hits without authorization by the r5

So we had to battle walls tiles and trade stations

[ocean laurel]

We usually had 10 or so in voice and would rotate captains

Militarist would swap

[tribal wigeon]

The strong alliance on our map took every trade station for the whole event

[plush cove]

We took them the first round and then shared a few with one of the other teams

[fathom karma]

Definetly depends map.Our map was weird our right corner had a bunch of naps intertwined with each other. But eventually we had 5 mergers that were pretty dominate on our map. 2 we didn't have naps with

[ocean laurel]

Your neighbors balled out the first 3 days of week 2 😂

[plush cove]

We never allow HQ hits without reason

[ocean laurel]

Made it lots of fun

[fathom karma]

Lolololol

[ocean laurel]

I tried to write several smaller teams and suggested merges and land arrangements but I was mostly surprised that the general consensus was they wanted 500 points on their own over a merge

[tribal wigeon]

Seems kill point rankings were a reason, for the R5 as well….

[fathom karma]

It was nice who we merged into. They had pokey people I wanted no part of dying to... if mel see this no offense you are scary🤣

[plush cove]

Yeah, if any of our guys did that it wouldn't have ended well

[ocean laurel]

I think people didn’t necessarily pay attention to the associated rewards of merging and were looking more at I was an r4 or r5 in my own alliance why would I be an r2 in a faction

[tribal wigeon]

I am R5 and when looking for a merger said I didn’t expect anything more than an R3

[fathom karma]

When we were considering merge we were looking at the rewards back and forth before we chose yes

[ocean laurel]

My opinion is that unless I was an r5 of second place allaince I would sell my soul to merge with first place faction for r2-r3

Seemed like the best rewards

[fathom karma]

I wanted to merge for the bronze coins extra coins for new heros was a bonus lol

[ocean laurel]

HQ skin bayyybayuyy

I’m pretty shameless 😂

[plush cove]

I got the skin

was gonna go for coins

[fathom karma]

I fell short 200 so went heavy coins

[tribal wigeon]

Unfortunately you are mods and in the minority of alliances that want to play and be fair to all, it doesn’t work that way for most, win at all cost, no matter that you have way more points than you need.
I asked 1 player from another alliance how the rewards were going. On Friday he had over 3.5 million bronze coins, I had less than 200k….

[white whale]

Blue isn’t a mod

[fathom karma]

I am just an innocent bystander

[white whale]

As players progress with talking on the server, they get new colors to their name.

[ocean laurel]

No one will accept my application

[white whale]

TC finally went green 🫢

[ocean laurel]

Brom said that thing about my mom and I been cooked since

[fathom karma]

It's a bit weird tc green

[ocean laurel]

What’s green mean?

[fathom karma]

R2

[ocean laurel]

My dream rank

[fathom karma]

But besides the mod comment our map played pretty fairly my faction went for 30k points and others got a pretty decent points as well. I think based off our map we were fair

[tribal wigeon]

The way this doomsday was set was like having a boxing match between a super heavyweight and a flyweight, no contest and fun for anyone
Would be so much better fun if they were equally matched fights, super heavyweight v super heavy wait and flyweight v flyweight, good to watch and exciting

[ocean laurel]

It would actually be quite boring because the cost of competition would be too high and there would be no incentive to compete. That’s why it’s seeded more like a march madness style set up

[tribal wigeon]

You were! So few of you were, I don’t have a screenshot, but the centre was all one colour and they had way more than 30k points

[fathom karma]

The other color touching center was a nap partner

[tribal wigeon]

But this way there was no cost of competition at all, big went where they wanted, nobody challenged them, the rest had no reason to fight as everyone else could only get camp rewards
It was two weeks of utter boredom, just watching the big take buildings with no opposition

[ocean laurel]

I will say that I would prefer to not have another team from my state on the same map

It would potentially lead you to a less then advantageous merge that meant you couldn’t compete

[tribal wigeon]

I prefer it as a state event like before

[ocean laurel]

It was even more dominant in the old format

[white whale]

I felt terrible for the folks that got 3rd and like 3 frags

[tribal wigeon]

Not for us lol, but we hade lots of fun working and bonding with our other state alliances, was great for uniting a state imo

[tribal wigeon]

Last Doomsday we had 3 pretty equal state alliances on our map, was so much more fun and needed a lot of planning of where to go and when, making naps with the smaller ones ,really enjoyed it and has made our state great, all alliances talk to each other and have fun

[ocean laurel]

Ours was super boring no one fought and the winner was clear as day

Same in the first

[fathom karma]

Agreed. Also the fact dd was the very first event to include more than 100 people from state able to participate together. I will always prefer the other way

Unless they make a new event to bring that favorite aspect I miss

[ocean laurel]

My first doom I was put in a corner and only allowed out to stretch my legs on Tuesdays. My second doom there was 0 fight we drew the map on day 2 and were done this last one was the first time I got an actual fight

[tribal wigeon]

Same and so boring

[ocean laurel]

If I was given 40 alliances my size on the same map I would go home

To expensive and to high of a risk of not getting a good rewards ROI

[vale moat]

And no revenue

People hate to hear it

[ocean laurel]

I have played the entire game hiding from people that can kick my rear end

[vale moat]

But PNS is a business

[fathom karma]

Our first dd was fiesty and we put a baby in the corner that deserved it. We were 2nd strongest and won. 2nd time we were strongest and not alot of fighting till later in. We were nice tho and people got points

[ocean laurel]

We were on a map like this and it was the most boring thing ever. I wrote poetry for a month 😂

[vale moat]

Geeeezzz wonder what map that was

[ocean laurel]

Also why I have no remorse about winning. I did my time as baby in the corner 😂

[vale moat]

Yours and ours first DD- 441 😂

[ocean laurel]

When you are in a bad spot that was more of an example of what diplomacy can do to benefit your players

[white whale]

If only you could have merged with another alliance…

[ocean laurel]

There were days we teetered on you murdering us 😂

[white whale]

First or second place faction rewards would have been way better than 3rd

[ocean laurel]

I’d have clicked on that button day 1 on that map 😂

[vale moat]

I really like this addition

[white whale]

It is a good one.

[ocean laurel]

THe hard part is guessing who does what and making the right moves

[white whale]

I’m sure it needs some tweaks but it allows players to be a bit more competitive

[vale moat]

Even with a whale on the board there’s still the chance to get those final rewards

[ocean laurel]

The problem is that there are not 1500 competitors in a battle zone of equal strength so no matter how they do it they will make someone mad

And this may be selfish but if I built my team up to be a contender then had to fight the other contenders and someone else on another map got the same rewards I did I’d be pretty pissed off

We are shmedium and scrappy and we do our best to game the system into better matchups

[vale moat]

Ditto

Years of being slapped around, occupied and shut out…

Time to pay it back

[tribal wigeon]

I have to disagree, as a business it makes more sense to have people of equal might on a map, both sides would spend to try to win, 1 strong and you have no need to spend anything, no revenue

[vale moat]

Not how it works

And there’s studies on it

Unfortunately

[ocean laurel]

I can tell you the one map I have seen this on was the calmest map out there

[tribal wigeon]

My alliance members spent no money this time they usually do

[vale moat]

You match the biggest against each constantly… your can retire the game

They match each other every week already in multiple events

And that’s backed up by numbers

[ocean laurel]

We had 441 419 424 382 then lil ole us and some other poor shmuck as the 6th, there was literally 0.0 fighting and someone gave me a Map that told me what I could own and I had negotiate with a lady about nitting and getting points

[vale moat]

CROCHETING

[ocean laurel]

Some stuff with needles

[vale moat]

A HOOK,

[tribal wigeon]

Personally I would get so much more satisfaction from beating a hard opponent than have an easy win, no pride in that, but I am old and still believe in fair play and earning your wins, guess that isn’t the way the world is anymore, just about winning, even when there is no effort or sense of accomplishment, just a win

[ocean laurel]

I sulked for a week then became the most emo diplomat on the board and had some fun with it and got my guys the best rewards I could

[vale moat]

It’s about income in a pay to play game

[ocean laurel]

The thing is that what defines a fair team is relative. I can have 60b total might on someone and a single player maxed can still beat me if I don’t have the additional capacity

[tribal wigeon]

Exactly easy win no need to spend, hard fight pay to get stuff to help you win
Where does easy wins make people want to spend more?

[white whale]

Chin up, your back up account got second…

[vale moat]

You can’t also punish growth of alliances that spent years building up their team and put in countless hours of work

We spend to grow and win events that years ago we watched from the sidelines with zero points 😂

[tribal wigeon]

Thank you for confirming that this is exactly what this doom was about, massaging the egos of the big spenders, finally an honest answer

[vale moat]

Fair is a relative term in this game

[vale moat]

March madness is coming up, go put the top teams in the first bracket together

Tell me that would not cause a crazy madhouse

[coral rock]

I liked how it brought naps / merges and diplomacy into the game more. Made it more communal i guess.

[tribal wigeon]

With the ego’s of the biggest spenders all wanting to prove they are the best, they would spend the budget of a small country….

[vale moat]

If they can? Nothing wrong with it, it’s their money to spend

Doesn’t bother me

We play our own style and have fun

[tribal wigeon]

Yes so better economic sense for the game, watch the money come flooding in

[ocean laurel]

For me personally I have had to scrap for what I got and so I’ll take my wins where I can get them. Others can also build and grow to compete. I spent years in gold wks so I could get a team that could sustain going higher. At a certain point you get what you put in. I have spent years dodging teams I couldn’t beat and we still can get squashed pretty easily but we pick our battles and we make friends when we can.

[vale moat]

It’s not a pretty answer, but would you rather me pretend it’s not that way

[vale moat]

5.5 years of walking uphill in a snowstorm

[tribal wigeon]

No I prefer honesty, and we were told before hand the maps would be fairly matched, yet it wasn’t
Yours is the first honest response.

[vale moat]

I never expect fair
I expect the worst actually 😂

And then try to make it still fun and negotiate my booty off for rewards

[ocean laurel]

I expect bad things complain then get my act together

[tribal wigeon]

I have learned never to trust what PnS says about events.
It is ok I will just skip doomsday in future as will most ordinary (non rich) people I have spoken too.
I know my opinion means nothing, but at least I tried!

[fathom karma]

A bit more murder would of been nice... still tryna figure out how 1 of my rallies got me no kills

[fathom karma]

I don't spend but think I'll continue to do dd if my ally wants to😂

Even if the changes tick me off

[tribal wigeon]

I am just from a different generation that liked to earn our rewards and not just buy them
World has changed a lot in my 75 years….not for the better imo

[vale moat]

Business has to make money unfortunately

[ocean laurel]

I enjoyed being able to work with multiple states to help me understand the event. The relationships from it can really help you in other events. For instance Hela in the first doom traded me a wk nap for some land I couldn’t have held anyway

That type of out of the box negotiations is what makes it fun even if you can’t win think of the things that can benefit you later and try to find them

[vale moat]

I also made you recite poetry in bc

[ocean laurel]

AND I WAS DAMN gOoD

[vale moat]

Yes you were

[tribal wigeon]

Not businesses, they have ales been the same, people have changed, we had pride in working hard to achieve our rewards, now people just spend to find the easy way, no pride left in earning your rewards

[ocean laurel]

I used to google emo poetry and That is how my state didn’t die for a month

[vale moat]

🤣

[vale moat]

Well that’s unfortunately not just in this game
And more of an anthropology issue

[coral rock]

Yeah I felt that too. I love being on the kill board. But after 12am territory takes, I had to go to sleep. Bloody aussie timezone.

[fathom karma]

our take times we the last slot i missed most the fiesty trade station battles cause we were doing events since trade stations opene an hour earlier

[tribal wigeon]

Exactly! I am glad I am so old now and won’t see how much more the world will change, I pity you young people

[vale moat]

I’m not that young

[lavish atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[tribal wigeon]

Bet you are younger than me at75

[coral rock]

I loved the hour earlier. The first trade station battles were brutal. Then once we merged we just said which one we wanted to take vs no opposition 🥱

[vale moat]

You have 2 decades on me

[tribal wigeon]

So you are young in my eyes 😂

[vale moat]

Fair 😂

[ocean laurel]

In the interests of my naps I’m bowing out of this conversation

[vale moat]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[coarse bough]

Doomsday is an interesting event requires teamwork with other regions. I also like testing troops with bigger rallies because of the troops you get.

[velvet carbon]

There is no such a thing as a fair match up in PNS. The strength gap is already huge between the top players compared the the average players and the gap is only going to keep growing as the game progresses. Let alone having 40 states in one map and having it be fair is quite impossible. I do think PNS should encourage more fighting though, give better rewards for factions that fight and reduce the amount of healing it takes in the infimary. Those are some of the things they can do. They should do that for WK too imo, i mean in 2-3 full rallies and your normal infirm and deep heal will basically be full forcing players to stop fighting. Imagine healing was much more lenient and rewards were better, would we get 6-7 rallies perhaps and see more fighting in both doomsday and WK.

[vale moat]

I’d love a 10% rule like we have in WC for WK

People would play harder and fight more, without having to worry about losing a ton of troops, rss, speedups

[velvet carbon]

yes I'd love that. Its a war game afterall but anything that encourages people to fight more i think will make the game more fun. Right now its not too rewarding to fight hard, so alot of naps and people not wanting troops to die

[vale moat]

100% agree with you

If we could run countless rallies, it would be a great experience

[velvet carbon]

😆 is it something we could propose to the devs? not sure how all of that works

[vale moat]

Of course! I’ll add it to my weekly report

Along with 1 minute valiant rallies 😂

[velvet carbon]

Have they made any changes from the mod weekly reports in the past or are ya'lls suggestions often getting ignored?

[vale moat]

They do give us feedback on a good majority of reports, of course some topics and issues take precedence

Right now it’s all about feedback for DD

[delicate trout]

Can i restore my old Account on Puzzles and chaos?

[vale moat]

You’d have got ask in their server

We are a different game

[dreamy laurel]

I love my R5's 😘

[exotic bone]

for those who played new dooms was there lots of death and destruction?

[copper bone]

I hope it was a blood bath😈

[dreamy laurel]

You have to ask @cursive oak and Puff 😁

[soft dome]

You dont trust to tag him?

Wait I do for you: @verbal turret

[dreamy laurel]

I just missed it 😂

I usually tag 😂

[exotic bone]

@verbal turret shiny boss, how many people did you destroy on Dooms?

[soft dome]

Is puffy now a vampire?

[deep sky]

It does not seem right to me that they let us buy yesterday and when the event closes we lose the material... the money, however, ...were spent...

[white whale]

I’ve put it on my DD feedback notes. I recommend messaging customer service about it.

[fierce light]

Dear Commander✨️

You seem to be in need of contacting Customer Support (CS). May I suggest one of the following options:

Option 1 | In-Game
Tap on 'More' (gear icon, bottom right of task bar) > Settings > Help > Contact CS. Submit a new ticket by clicking "My Tickets" at the top right corner.

Option 2 | Email
[e-mail]
You will need your UID, which can be found under Settings > Account

IMPORTANT NOTES:

• If applicable, include any/all relevant information related to you and your issue:
• Screenshots/video of the issue(s)
• Screenshots/video of expected outcome(s)
• Proof of purchase

**Please be patient when waiting for a response. CS is NOT available 24 hours a day. **When high volume / game-wide issues come up, replies to tickets submitted may take longer to arrive. Thanks again for your patience!

[dreamy laurel]

He ranked 1st in the Kill list

[soft dome]

I expect he had fun then 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/fire-dragon-got-drakaris-drogon-gif-10095437

[dreamy laurel]

Here you go 😁

[white whale]

Dang, yall burnt everything

[dreamy laurel]

Eh..we Just Kept the Majority in top 10. But overall. No good.

Look at my rank. Outside 150 😭

Rugged went slow & Stayed out of the top 10.

[soft dome]

He definitely had fun, lol

Good job boss @verbal turret

[dreamy laurel]

I wished to do more. But @cursive oak said to calm down 😂😛

[maiden rampart]

Questions for players who participated in the event, DD starts with 5 alliances from the same state. Then two are qualified as a faction.
Is it the alliance shell that qualifies? or the players?
Can players switch faction and continue to evolve in the event?

[vale moat]

Each alliance starts on their own on the DD map

And yes, it’s the shell that technically qualifies.
Top 5 alliances of a state qualify to register for DD

Zero guarantee you’ll end up with another alliance from your state on the same map

[maiden rampart]

ok didn't have that information 👀

Player exchanges are still possible after the start of the event? or is the composition final?

[dreamy laurel]

Each alliance got different map.
So exchange is a bit risky. And not recommended

[ocean laurel]

Everything freezes you get your own map

But you can go to a different alliance and still get into doom after matching

[maiden rampart]

Thank you for this information.
It seems very constraining.
You will have to choose between a competitive team or your everyday family.
I don't understand why they broke the cohesion of state.

[vale moat]

Last DD one of the biggest complaints was being stuck in a pre made faction that wasn’t competitive

Alliances have more options now to merge into a hopefully stronger faction

[maiden rampart]

Yes, there is no Interest in making it a small one 😅

[maiden rampart]

For us the biggest problem was the monstrous players in medium or weak alliances

[rustic dune]

Im on that list 😲😬

[soft dome]

Im not

I should have visited 215 as well

[rustic dune]

Yes I got pulled in randomly 😂 nekowife and bengal talked me into it

Now we all rocking the new doomsday HQ skin

[soft dome]

My boss is with yall! Puffy

[vale moat]

Can we fix that gap please

[white whale]

Leave the gap… it shows there is no need for perfection.

[vale moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bike-gif-9672975825298871464

[soft dome]

https://tenor.com/view/capisce-owl-blink-tilt-head-huh-gif-8545571037777365101

[white whale]

Beauty in chaos…

[dreamy laurel]

I told you before. But something came up and u didn’t come 😭

[dreamy laurel]

There was a tile so i decided to be an anomaly and sit there

[dreamy laurel]

Thanks for assisting with Big hands 😉

I hope we had a good feast 🔥

[vale moat]

Pollock was actually extremely organized with his “splatters”

[fathom plover]

Are the coins/tokens available for purchase afterwards like in normal DD? I forget exactly which item was available but you could buy more “tokens” to improve your heroes. Edit: improve via same style as Timed Tavern
ie: can you get the HQ skin and then buy the new heroes?

[copper venture]

did someone mention chaos?

[rustic dune]

I tired @dreamy laurel said I stink

[vale moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

[rustic dune]

The hope city coins yes and you can chose which heros the new doomsday ones or the old ones

[fathom plover]

Fml guess old are staying +3. Get the new with cores and new heroes the next DD maybe 😂 never catch up!
Thank you! Answers my question. 🙏

[hallow swallow]

I keep saying bengal thinks Peyton smells

I asked everyone to scoot down but peyton must have just microwaved some fish

[cursive oak]

He does smell

[rustic dune]

Emy sits by me perfectly fine maybe puff just smells really good 😂

[soft dome]

I hate chaos...my ocd is triggering

[cursive oak]

https://discord.com/channels/742276665421594644/1483547327435247869

I wrote a story for everyone

[soft dome]

Ive added a heart

[vale moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pine-sol-cleaning-dance-mmmmhmmm-choices-gif-12111498

[fleet bobcat]

Can you merge with a different faction inside Doom? And another question, can you appoint a different leader if one doesn’t want it?

[cursive oak]

Yea and yes

[fleet bobcat]

Thank you 🙏

Another silly question:
Does a weak tech shell affect militaristic and overall battle power inside the event?

For example, if my alliance shell is weak, does that affect our group inside DD overall?

[dreamy laurel]

Yes. It will. Cause its an alliance event this time

[deep kayak]

Hi guys. Im very very new to doomsday.. no idea how it works.. so my team is considering to merge with another alliance during the registration period. I understand the event is 14 days. For showdown, is it okay if we switch alliances? Or how does this works for alliance events? Or any ideas how to help others in my alliance who are not joining doomsday to still get rewards?

Or does it mean merging can be done during doomsday event and dont have to switch alliances before that?

[lapis sinew]

How about this for a way to appease those who want a change from playing with players from their state- but also want the field to be more even- What about putting alliances into fractions- based on combined might. For example lets say that you wanted 10 fractions on a map created from 50 alliances- you could take take the average alliance might multipled by 10 and automatically put alliances into 10 fractions as close to that average as possible. So if the average alliance multipled by 10 was 50b, then one fraction might consist only of a single alliance with 50b, whereas another alliance might consist of 10 alliances with a combined might of 50b. The first fraction might have stronger players- but the second might have huge number of players around the clock.... This would certainly the event alot more unpredictable.

[cursive oak]

During the event. You can merge during doomsday. Wait until the manikins

If you registering you can not move during registration or match making

If you want to move to another alliance do it before registration

[vale moat]

You want to run a faction of 1000 people? I don’t 😂

So, my alliance is 300b …. That would be 100 players against 6000 with that math

It’s a competition, your matches will suck, been there, grow and you’ll do better with each following season

[lapis sinew]

Obviously I was putting figures there for easy comparison... dont forget the top 5 qualification requirement would filter out the really small alliances anyway and mitigate some of the numbers differences... all I am saying is that a variation on this idea could be considered... but of course someone whose alliance would not benefit from losing an advantage is unlikely to like any idea that challenges the status quo

[vale moat]

We spent 4 years growing to gain an advantage

🤷‍♀️

[cursive oak]

Not everyone is going to win

[dreamy laurel]

You spitted harsh truth too early in the Morning 💀😂

I finally Made my Hound 4★ gold after 3 doomsday 😭

[vale moat]

People spend to grow, you start punishing growth… game will die.. just a matter of business
It’s nothing personal

[dreamy laurel]

Also. Cant defeat them? Join them 💀

[lapis sinew]

It is true that not everyone can win and it takes time to grow, but growth take encouragement and it is only a competition if people have a chance. The gamemakers clearly want this event to be more popular. That will only happen if alliances feel like it is worth participating and it is only worth participating in if alliances feel like they have a reasonable chance of reaping the benefits.

[vale moat]

Hence the merging option

[lapis sinew]

Yes, but clearly the merging option in its current model is not necessarily the answer, hence why there is a case for adjustment of said model...

[vale moat]

You’ll still need to be a certain size to even manage to kill the footholds

That’s not gonna happen at 50b

You’ll have a map with partially taken footholds because no one is strong enough to kill the higher level footholds

These events are an incentives to grow, recruit, network

[fickle arrow]

Anyone know the times available to pick from for doomday?

[vale moat]

Assuming they don’t change them up

[fickle arrow]

Thank you Hela🌹 🍻

And you pick 3 ,so do you get all 3 of those times or randomly get 1 of those times? Is for whole event?

[vale moat]

You pick one of those timeslots

That will be prioritized in matching but not 100% guaranteed

[fickle arrow]

So could be any of your 3 you pick?

[vale moat]

You pick 1

[fickle arrow]

Okay

[vale moat]

But not 100% guarantee you get it

[fickle arrow]

Okay fantastic, thank you so much 😊 🍻

[vale moat]

[dreamy laurel]

The event gets u chance to engage & explore and find new Genre of fighting options..
Making new Connection while making a greater bond with the existing one.

Also.

Negotiation skill

[lapis sinew]

And therefore making the event more popular would mean more players benefit which logically means making more people feel like the benefits are worth the effort and that they have a reason chance to reap said benefits

[vale moat]

I’m not sure where you get the impression this is not a popular event, 90% of folks I talk to are excited to participate

[lapis sinew]

You guys wanted feedback and suggestions- then proceed to be extremely negative everytime someone says something which you don't like

[vale moat]

It’s not a matter of like, it’s a discussion

What you are proposing is not realistic for this type of event or business

It will get put in the reports no matter what, but it’s just reality that it will most likely not be changed

[lapis sinew]

actually quite alot of the comments on this thread are quite critical

[vale moat]

That’s a fraction of the people we talk to

In an earlier post you commented that these events are stressful for r4 and officers, and now you want to combine 10 alliances into 1 faction.
I think that would add to the stress 😂

[lapis sinew]

And whilst I personally enjoyed it... it is equally true that enjoying the event did not necessarily mean people felt it was worth it when they discovered what rewards they earned. I KNOW how much is involved... I probably was more involved in the logistics of my fraction than 99% of the fraction... but equally i also think there are ways to make that easier

I actually was happy with my rewards... but I was an officer so I benefited more

But I also know others who did alot did not benefit as much as I did

[vale moat]

Always ways to improve events

And rewards should be better for every rank

[dreamy laurel]

Only irritated person right now is you. Cause we are not nodding with you

[lapis sinew]

Actually pointing things out does not neccessarily mean I am irritated

It simply is my feedback

[white whale]

Everyone’s feedback is welcome. I believe Hela was trying pointing out why it would not work for bigger alliances. I saw it as a conversation not irritation on either end. 😀

I have put it in the event notes to devs. 😀

[cursive oak]

We’re not disagreeing. It’s all feedback well taken

[white whale]

Merging is a new feature in the event. It’s good to get feedback on what worked and what didn’t no matter how big or small an alliance is.

[dreamy laurel]

I have had ppl in my Faction who just wanted to Have the Fun and Didnt care for Reward. While they are just T9.
While i requested my team mate repeatedly to calculate. How can i get the HQ reward and they ensured that i get that

[cursive oak]

Aka. Me

[dreamy laurel]

Yes. Every feedback is a feedback. Be it positive & Negative. I am not disputing that

[dreamy laurel]

Yes.
🌹😘😇

[dreamy laurel]

You can be irritated. Its okay.
The battle chat & Chat broke amid the event and it absolutely irritated me

[vale moat]

I’m just old and grudgery

[dreamy laurel]

You are an evergreen Joy

Just tell pns to fix the translation

[vale moat]

5 years and counting

[white whale]

More Starbucks is needed?

[vale moat]

Big Duh there

[cursive oak]

I had fun. There were good trade center fights. Hq rallies.

Boring times. Broken battle chat. And announcements from other doomsday

[dreamy laurel]

I miss the Sandworm rallies 😂

[lapis sinew]

I am preparing for the second rollout right now and having been one of the people who has seen the benefits of 3 doomsday. . I would like the s300+ event to be a positive one for more people in the alliance ..

[cursive oak]

It could be.

Did you do the first sand doom? 1-300

[dreamy laurel]

Find a Good team to Merge with. Your team will enjoy Lvl 12 tiles 🌹

[cursive oak]

Oh tiles lacked the first week

[lapis sinew]

Yes i did. Both with a big and medium sized alliance, so i can see it from both ends of the spectrum

[cursive oak]

I did too. My medium sized group struggled the first week to find a merge.

[lapis sinew]

I have experienced it as a hq17, hq27, hq30 and hq34

[cursive oak]

31 and 43 lol

[vale moat]

300+ won’t be easy that’s a ton of might in those states

I’ll never play with more than 1 …. No wonder folks are not enjoying it

Spread yourself so thin

[white whale]

That first war zone looks a bit tough.

Farms are for showdown and sitting around

[vale moat]

3 is scarier

[dreamy laurel]

Its scary how the new states in 900's are.

Too big 😭

[white whale]

I pretend states over 800 don’t exist 😆

[dreamy laurel]

They Made War Zone? 👀

[vale moat]

That 800+ bracket is getting crazy

Which I approve

[dreamy laurel]

All those 954, 964 🔥

[vale moat]

Keep moving up and away from me

[dreamy laurel]

889

[lapis sinew]

It was not my intention to get my farms involved but it was the only way we had to move forward in this event

[plush cove]

Battle chat was broken from the beginning of the event

[dreamy laurel]

Yeah. Later it vanished totally

[plush cove]

It can keep going further away from me that's for sure

Y'all can keep HoF too

[modest zodiac]

Do you know the states in each war zone?

[rugged prism]

Anyone know if you can join a top 5 alliance before qualification ends to be able to participate or do you have to be in before it starts and stay for the full duration.

[vale moat]

You have to join before registration ends

Personally I’d join day before registration starts, and I wouldn’t leave during registration phase

[exotic bone]

[rugged prism]

Thanks.

With showdown starting at the same time as registration, I know a bunch of people trying to get clarification.

They want to join a top 5 for Doom but don't want to be stuck with said alliance for a full week.

[cursive oak]

Regardless, you have to be in there the entire matchmaking time as well

[vale moat]

I wouldn’t call it being stuck if they let players join that would not qualify in their own alliances

I’d decline them if they’d feel stuck 😂

[urban dew]

Bonjour, nous n’avons pas reçu les recompenses de rang pour apocalypse sable

[dreamy laurel]

Then they Should not be accepted by the top 5 Alliances. Thats Incredibly rude..

If you cant Visit & Stay in a Alliance to play a Certain event. But you want to qualify for that event.
Then you should not play or qualify for that Certain event at all.

[lapis sinew]

That might be a tad judgmental. There are alliances who are deliberately skipping doomsday or whose alliance will not qualify. So if you are a player who feels obligated to your main alliance- but wants to participate in doomsday- then you might like the option to take part and still try and keep up with your usual contributions towards your main alliance. True- that is a bit unrealistic but in those in that scenario- that might be a case of a player wanting to fulfils his own enjoyment whilst trying to balance their responsibilities towards their own alliance. My alliance allowed players to join from alliances who would not qualify and we appreciated the contributions of those players during doomsday

[dreamy laurel]

My Point is, If they Join & Leave after qualifying.then they take away Chances of others who are Mini in size & Wants to play. But had to leave cause the alliance had to accommodate guest.

So, personally i feel. Specially in a Showdown week. If I have guests coming Over then they stay & play with me for 2 weeks

[cursive oak]

Plus if you leave the doomsday alliance and join another you can’t partake in sand worm lairs or anything

I would just stay with the doomsday alliance and not do all this switching back and forth. Would save for a lot of headaches

[ocean laurel]

If you have a friend who is in the same alliance you can

[shy ember]

Hi yall

[median orbit]

hello, for this doomsday expedition, does one have to join BEFORE registration begins, stay for the 3 registration days and continue to stay for the full day of matchmaking immediately after to qualify for the event? Or; alternatively, one joins sometime during the 3 day registration period and then stays for the full day of matchmaking to qualify for the event?

[white whale]

Hello 👋
The updated faq has answers towards these questions. I believe you need to be in for full matchmaking. IMO I would plan to be there from registration through the full event. I don’t like tempting disqualification 😆 #📄bulletin-notes message

[median orbit]

it says: "Q: Can new members join an Alliance during registration, or must they have joined at least one week before it starts?
A: New members are allowed to join an Alliance during registration." and "Q: [S3] Can new members who join during matchmaking still participate in the event?
A: No." which would lead me to believe one can join sometime during the 3 day registration period and then stay for the full day of matchmaking to qualify for the event.

[white whale]

That’s the way it worked for the states below 300. A couple of the GMs have messaged they need to be there at the beginning. Imo I trust the faq more than I do the GMs.

[dreamy laurel]

It means you have to get in when the registration phase starts.

For our Alliance. We assemble our team right before the registration phase starts. It eliminates the risk of being not eligible.

[fathom karma]

I personally wouldn't risk it but I know it worked for folks joining before registration ended for us

[tribal wigeon]

You are talking to the people who are bothered enough to join this thread, in my state I would say, from the feedback I have received, has been 90% negative
The only way to get a truer figure of how many actually enjoyed this new format, is to do an in game survey, like you usually do.
Of course then you run the risk of finding out that the truth is most people do not like it

[copper venture]

Nah, PNS will just word it all for a positive outcome anyway

[cursive oak]

I don’t know Twitter has been blowing up with how happy players have been with doomsday

[ocean laurel]

There’s people who enjoyed it so much they want to do a second one, each to their own. Other then fixing the glitch on levels 3-7 buildings then I have nothing negative to say

[dreamy laurel]

Some player who Spent & had relatively bearable matchup for their alliance...is happy.

[tribal wigeon]

I am saying the 1 alliance on each map and the 1 other that could get second tier rewards would all be delighted and want to post about how much they enjoyed it, the other 32 alliances on each map who could only reach camp L, if they were lucky, would not bother, as I said the ordinary smaller people I have spoke to are either quitting the game or will not do Doomsday again
Making it possible for only 2 factions able to get the top 2 level of rewards punished at least 80% of the players on each map, more if the top 2 alliances didn’t accept mergers

[vale moat]

That depends on the matching and the choice of the dominant faction

Some share, some don’t

It’s not a regular event, DD is a competition

[tribal wigeon]

The rewards are set up that only 2 factions at most can get top two rewards, as there are only 2 level 6 lands available.
My figures were the kindest I could give you, in reality some maps 1 faction held all the level 5 lands upwards, so 36 alliances could only achieve camp L at most

[vale moat]

It’s a competition

[tribal wigeon]

Competition means having equal matched alliances battling for top 2 places, but as we all know, the biggest alliances were not matched together, they were all given maps with lesser alliances, so they could have easy victories.as one mod said earlier it was only fair the biggest alliances were rewarded for the effort (or money) they had put into the game.
I am no longer complaining about this, just pointing out you need to ask the alliances that could not get more than camp L, how much THEY enjoyed this event with a survey, and not rely all the people who did well to comment here or on Twitter

[ocean laurel]

Mine was matched with 3 alliances that would have been competitive against us

[tribal wigeon]

Our state alliance was so dominant they took every land 4 up, had every trade station from the start and didn’t need a merger, they only took 3 in to give them the rewards

[vale moat]

Hope I get that matching

[tribal wigeon]

On my map there were just 2 strong alliances who shared every

Guess it depends if you like to fight and earn your rewards, or just get given the rewards for doing nothing.
Personally I prefer to fight and know I earned my rewards. Having no opposition would be so disappointing and boring….

[vale moat]

After building an alliance for 4 years from scratch…. Happily take that advantage

[ocean laurel]

An easy match up comes from having fought to build a dominant team that enables you to draw wins

So you earn in more then a single event sense

To say they are unearned is to ignore the work put into building those teams. It is a pay to play game for sure but at the end of the day a lot of work goes into assembling and maintaining a team

[tribal wigeon]

We have all built our alliances from scratch, but some like to know they earned the rewards by fighting another alliance to test our strength, depends if you are happier to fight or just be satisfied knowing you cannot lose, no satisfaction but what the hell, as long as you get the rewards

[vale moat]

Fought plenty, lost plenty
I’m good

Also, this is going off topic

Play styles are an individual choice

And not part of this thread

Let’s move on from criticizing how others choose to play

[tribal wigeon]

Not really, it’s all about the unfair matchup’s
Shame you don’t seem to have mods that are not from the biggest alliances, you should have some ordinary players, but PnS doesn’t want the truth, just people telling them what they want to hear

[vale moat]

Very incorrect, and let’s remember #📚sanctuary-rules

[tribal wigeon]

Unfair matchmaking should be a part of this thread

[vale moat]

Unfair matchmaking and individual play styles are different

Keep it on topic

[tribal wigeon]

All my above comments ARE about how unfair the matching on maps wa thought that was clear

[vale moat]

It has been noted, and added to our observations

[soft dome]

Not all mods are from the biggest alliances, also every player started at 0. No need to blame mods because of frustration..we have nothing to do with matchmaking or personal frustration about game

We take feedback and forward it, its not on us if that feedback gets to make it to game changes

[fathom karma]

the unfair matchups do suck but no matter how ya brainstorm how to fix it there are always going to be flaws. just make do how ya can and fight or know when to give up tbh

[ocean laurel]

I want to drop the statistics of the march madness tournament

[fathom karma]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-im-done-gone-bye-gif-14331061352776093889

[ocean laurel]

Basically at any level if you put 40 teams together someone will hate it because the level of competition will vary

I can tell you that in full form as a top 40 allaince we don’t stand a chance against an alliance in the top 10

[tribal wigeon]

Apparently most people love it according to comments above, but nobody is asking all the people in the game who are not (or in some countries cannot) be on Discord
So back to my original point, there should be an in game survey to get everyone’s opinion

[fathom karma]

most people i know love the trade stations and the vault additions but werent big fans of merges

[vale moat]

Maybe there will be after the rest of the states have played

[ocean laurel]

I loved the merges. Made it possible for someone like us to win

It added an extra level to the planning and strategy

[tribal wigeon]

I do hope so, that is all I really want

[fathom karma]

i wasnt big fan of merges i preferred being with my state but i have social awkwardness when i dont really know people. i work better with familiarity so the state top 5 will always be my preffered. the only benefits of this 1 for me were trade stations, vaults and i completed all levels of military supplies f2p

[median anchor]

I liked the state merger better than merging with strangers in a war game from different states. We do not like burning people but a few we merged with insisted on it

[copper bone]

They won't change the match making😂 you better off joining a bigger alliance then thinking they'll rearrange the broken match making in almost every event🤣

[tribal wigeon]

Abandon my alliance for personal rewards…..not my style, I will look after them and do my best to get them to camp L again, or we will vote on not joining next time, I will vote no anyway

[cursive oak]

Well you could merge during the event with a stronger state

[dreamy laurel]

Are you sure? 👀

Sorry Granny but u are currently Too much Emotional. So God Bless you 🌹

[copper bone]

I'm not telling you to do that. I'm saying they won't change the match making mechanics. You either play smart or try to make allies with bigger alliances

[dreamy laurel]

If you think More Mods Needs to be here From alliances that is Fairly Unknown. Why dont you sign up & Be a Mod Granny

[cursive oak]

Pns way of trying to help smaller alliances was to come up with merging during the event

[kind socket]

Question... you can merge with 3 Factions in total right ?

And if 2 Factions merge that counts as 1 Faction?

[cursive oak]

You can merge with 3 total.

[dreamy laurel]

Yes. 1 in 1st week. And 2 merger in 2nd week..if i remember correctly

[kind socket]

So in total max amount of allaince in Faction is 40 members ?

[cursive oak]

100 members per alliance

[kind socket]

40 allainces *

[cursive oak]

1 alliance = a faction.

You can’t merge with more than 3

So you + 3 others = 4

This is 100 % wrong

[vale moat]

No

[kind socket]

Ah I see I thought top 5 in state are considered 1 Faction

[dreamy laurel]

If you are Asking To get merged, then they keep the R5 after merge. And if they asking.. Then you keep the Merge

[cursive oak]

No top 5 qualify

[kind socket]

I see I was confused ty for clearing that up

[cursive oak]

Doesn’t mean you will be in same map

[dreamy laurel]

Also Think before Merging.

You cant get out of the Merge 😂

No divorce option in it 😂

[kind socket]

So 1 allaince= 1 faction

[vale moat]

No

Top 5 of the state qualify to register
But will play separately

[dreamy laurel]

Your Alliance = your Faction

My alliance = my Faction

[kind socket]

Ahhh I don't get to play with friends 😭

[vale moat]

Your alliance is considered 1 faction at the start

[kind socket]

If 2 allaince merge is that then still counted at 1 Faction?

[vale moat]

Yes

1 alliance can merge with up to 3 other alliances

[kind socket]

So in total 1 Faction can have 8 allainces ?

[vale moat]

No
4 max

[kind socket]

Ah max 4 ty

Okay thats helpful thank-you for the information

[vale moat]

Check out the guide library @unborn wasp posted a video #1182606457439531008

[cursive oak]

1 merge first week in your zone and up to 2 the second week around the map

[dreamy laurel]

Also Trade station is alliance based. Your Faction mate But Different Alliance can Rally you in Trade Station

[kind socket]

Definitely will watch it later

Does subordinate Factions get same rewards as main Faction?

[vale moat]

Final rewards based on rank

[dreamy laurel]

Yes

The faction we took in Got reward same as ours

[vale moat]

You’ll have access what the lead faction achieves

But higher ranks are very limited

But better than sitting in a corner

[dreamy laurel]

Being R2 in Winning Faction = R4 in Ranked 15 faction ☹️

Or Worse

[vale moat]

I’d take it!

[copper bone]

Says the R5🤣

[vale moat]

I’d take r2 in another faction if there’s better rewards

[copper bone]

Yeah true, but you're still an R5 so you get top rewards regardless

[vale moat]

I’ll give r5 to one of my r4 if they lack the coins to get the skin

[kind socket]

This accurate now ?

[copper venture]

She would, too

[cursive oak]

That is more better yes

[dreamy laurel]

@cursive oak was an absolute sweetheart and let me have the HQ Skin.😘

I was 6k Silver short without the Placement change

[vale moat]

I know someone who wants it really really bad

[copper bone]

If your R4 doesn't have enough coins for the skin. I'm guessing they probably didn't participate much? That rank alone is pretty much a guaranteed skin😂

[dreamy laurel]

Yes sir.

[vale moat]

R1-4, there 😂

[copper bone]

R1-R3 and they need to rank in kills

[cursive oak]

I had some R3 get the hq skin

[vale moat]

I never cared much personally for me about rewards

[ocean laurel]

That is what I do, win the event rank in kills then pass r5 to whoever needs it

[cursive oak]

They should have casualty ranking too lol

[dreamy laurel]

R4 do give 15k ish Coin. And you need 5k. From playing. I had to get a Promotion to an officer so i can get the Skin. one of My benevolent Team mate did that sacrifice so i can have it.

[ocean laurel]

It has the added benefit of no one blaming you for being rewards motivated 😂

If you don’t spend at r4 then mabye is hard

[dreamy laurel]

Those are killer whales 😂

[ocean laurel]

But if you buy second column easy

[cursive oak]

That’s the only thing I spent on

[copper bone]

5k coins ain't $#!T to get in that event! 🤣 Honestly just go in beat the brakes off smaller players and take everything you can 🤣

[dreamy laurel]

Yes. Extra 1.5k.Coin.

[dreamy laurel]

Hey. I did nothing still Got fan mail saying i am A bully & monster. That too being a HQ 31 then. ( Currently HQ 34 in Progress)

[cursive oak]

You would think. But most hide.

[copper bone]

Nice! Goal is hate mail all day, everyday

[copper bone]

There is always a stupid one who wonders off, just find em and zero em🤣

[cursive oak]

lol. Yeah.

Don’t fight hard at first for the trade station After 15 minutes holding it gets capped

Then there’s 45 min of nothing

[dreamy laurel]

They should ban rallies from safe Zones

[cursive oak]

Well. Not really.

This helps smaller players and alliances fight

[dreamy laurel]

Nope. Some are absolute bellends

[copper bone]

They should ban attacking from safe zone

When you catch stupid roaming outside the safe zone🤣

[vale moat]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

[blissful escarp]

was his avatar like this before the hit, or did it change after?

[frank turtle]

Good lord man 😂 😂 😂 😂

[frigid shadow]

Can anyone confirm, am I right in thinking the matchmaking period and how we first arrive in doom is much different to previously?
Example, previous top 5 alliance qualified, started together in safe zone on same map
Sounds like now the alliances may be on different parts of the map or maybe not on the same map at all?
Fark me, love PnS but hate the interpretation factor on things sometimes 😂

[fallow kelp]

Good morning!
It would be a coincidence if several of the top 5 alliances ended up on the same map.
This time, it’s an alliance event. Each of the top 5 alliances is on a different map.😉

[frigid shadow]

Ohhhh, ok! Thank you, lol, well that changes everything about the pre planning tactics then🤣 🤣
So the faction R5 will be whoever R5 of highest might alliance for that map then?

[modest zodiac]

alliance = faction

so the R5 for your faction (alliance) is your current R5, but can be changed

when 2 alliances merge, the R5 will be the R5 of the accepting alliance (not the alliance that applied for merge)

[frigid shadow]

Bloody hell, glad I asked, that's completely different to the previous two then 😅 🤦‍♀️

[modest zodiac]

yes, be careful with merging 😉 can't split

[lapis sinew]

That is definitely not true. In my fraction, every officer and R4 were incredibly active during doomsday- but from what I heard- no one got skins . My guess is that a major problem was that although we managed to secure a fairly decent number of footholds- we only secured a level 4 foothold on the last day. and I did notice that this did increase the rate at which coines were generated significantly. I was quite happy to get two of the new heroes - but it is a bit of a lottery- one incredibly active player in my fraction did not get any of the new heroes- whereas another player i know of who was not very active managed somehow to get all three new heroes plus enhance a few of her existing heroes

[white whale]

The base skin was only available to those who won the event and held the final foothold (7).

[dreamy laurel]

Yes. And 30k total point.

[plush cove]

And even then you might not get enough to get it.

[cursive oak]

20k for the hq skin. I don’t remember how much R4 or officers get. But I would suggest getting the second tier. And getting a good amount of kills. If your winning

[dreamy laurel]

R4 gets 15k..
Officers get 20k
R5 k gets 30k coins
R3 Gets 10/11k

[heavy osprey]

Do the players joining us need to be in alliance before 3/22 or latest by 3/25?

[cursive oak]

I personally would have them in before registration

[heavy osprey]

Oh that sucks for Showdown 🙁

[kind socket]

Devs latest FAQ stated that members can join at anytime during registration. If there is an issue that's on devs 😂

[cursive oak]

Better to be safe than sorry

[fathom karma]

That was how it was for our dd too. They are probably keeping consistency between both the dds

[dreamy laurel]

Try that and let us know 😂

[jaunty gust]

This is also something I'm trying to get a concrete answer on, because if me and my players don't have to completely abandon our alliance for showdown we don't want to. We tend to struggle with showdown as is and I don't want to leave my alliance high and dry, but also don't want to miss out on Participating in Doomsday 🤦‍♀️

[heavy osprey]

Oh man. I would pick SD over doom any day 😅😅

[cursive oak]

Yeah, if you did decide to wait until sometime during registration to move. Just remember, you have to be 100% in there the entire matchmaking time.

[heavy osprey]

I asked bc we had someone participate in the beta and they had quite a few members "not eligible" that joined during registration period. I was not sure if this maybe was a bug they were fixing.

[fathom karma]

the faq mentioned people able to join during registration

i was also basing it off ours

Again its pns anything can change

[unborn wasp]

The important thing, like Kaz said, is that everyone has to be in the alliance during matchmaking, which starts at <t:1774483200:F> and lasts for 24 hours(shown in your local time)

[jaunty gust]

I have absolutely no issue with that, just wanna be able to help my alliance with Showdown is all while still being able to participate in doomsday! Thank you amazing mods for the clarification and easing my concerns!

One last question... does everyone in the top 5 alliances get to participate or is it limited to a certain might?

[cursive oak]

But this time around. The faq does say you can move during registration

[unborn wasp]

my alliance is making sure our players are in by Sunday so they can participate in our alliance, and sending farms to help out in the alliances we have players coming from, to help them out!

[cursive oak]

Everyone. I even saw an hq 15

[jaunty gust]

Oooo I like that idea too!

[hollow path]

thats like me! im hq 25 im excited to play in doomsday i just learned theres no hq requirement

[cursive oak]

Just be careful at the start. A lot of hungry killers out there

I would know

[hollow path]

? i thought we are untouchable while in our starting zones

at least that is what my r5 told me

[cursive oak]

That’s true

But many like to leave the safe zone

[hollow path]

oh thank goodness

no i will live in the starting zone haha 🙂

[cursive oak]

At first. When you ever the map. It will be very over whelming lol

[hollow path]

huh?

oh enter. got it.

[jaunty gust]

So once matchmaking ends at reset on 3/26 we can return to our alliances without any problem?

[cursive oak]

Yup. Just will be limited to alliance milestones and sand worms

[jaunty gust]

After showdown ends I believe we would return to the doomsday alliance for the remainder of the event!

[cursive oak]

Once you complete all your quests. You can go to the new alliance. You have 3 days after showdown ends to claim rewards

[jaunty gust]

Ok perfect. So we can start showdown in our alliance, so long as all of us are in the other alliance before reset on the 25th. Stay in that alliance until reset on the 26th, then return to our alliance to finish showdown quests! I think I'm understand this all now!

[cursive oak]

IF those are the match making times.

[jaunty gust]

Yes matchmaking appears to be reset on 3/25 to reset on 3/26 for me.

[kind socket]

I will. Idk why people doubt the devs lmao. Clearly it was the same for the beta test aswell

[cursive oak]

Shield gate that’s all I need to say

[white whale]

Revenge res speeds…

[fathom karma]

Shield gate was traumatizing

[misty hill]

Registeration period says 3/23 to 3/26, does that mean we can go anytime between to the top alliance or it has be before reset on 23rd?

[white whale]

The risk is up to to you. The mods recommend staying in one alliance through all of it to be safe. #📄bulletin-notes message

[misty hill]

Hmmm okay just wondering as showdown is at that time too

[fathom karma]

If you plan on going back to your original alliance for showdown try having a buddy at least also going so you can do worms with someone

[misty hill]

What worms?

[fathom karma]

It's dd lair equivalent

[misty hill]

Ahh cool.. I'll have my hubby with me..

[copper venture]

I hope my buddies do this worm with me

[vale moat]

I’d break my pelvis

[misty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/capoo-bugcat-cute-wiggle-worm-gif-26565863

[past oyster]

Do the lil zombie type things in doomsday only use warhound march size right?

[dreamy laurel]

yes. Lions use only hounds

[past oyster]

Thanks, figured it was the same as last time, but wanted to check, need to make enough t12 riders now that I have them unlocked, unfortunately I only have 3 levels in epic rider warhounds as a shooter 🤣

[dreamy laurel]

I had nothing. I had to painfully march with Epic Fighter jet which became 4 ★ only last day of the event 😂

[copper venture]

I think you can still do it!

[vale moat]

Hold my coffee

[lavish atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-old-lady-dead-gif-14971117

[rugged prism]

The top 5 alliances in my state have invited anyone and everyone who wants to join doom to do so. They have players who will not or can not participate due to various reasons. They also do not care if people stay for showdown. The bigs will even jump around to smaller alliances to help with firefly. They are an awesome bunch of people.

Coming from a smaller alliance, that struggles to stay at star level, I'd prefer to stay with my alliance but also help the state in doom. They understand this and are totally cool with it.

[dreamy laurel]

The Doom this time is alliance based not State Based.

We Help with Firefly & Showdown too.. but i am Talking about specific circumstances where you have to join & stay for participation

[fathom plover]

I thought there was all positive feedback for trade stations? That it was one of the best features. Why reduce it “based on feedback?”

[cursive oak]

Where’s this at

Can you show all of it please

[fathom plover]

I was not in the S1-300 so maybe I have a misunderstanding of the trade stations. Thought they were a good thing

[coral rock]

I liked the trade stations for shopping items that are more rare to buy. They must want more fighting, it's a good place to get your kill points (and casualties).

[cursive oak]

I am in 1-300 and didn’t get this messsge. So let me read it

Wow. They made more R4 spots