🚀・dev-support

[daring apex]

I think you're right, I just read that there were upgradtes. Thank you

[tall plover]

Just now tried to claim. I'm too getting the same error

[dim pendant]

@primal terrace During chain upgrade, you won't be able to send any transactions as chain is paused.
So transactions like (delegate, redelegate, unbond, submit-proposal, vote etc) won't go through.

[tall plover]

Will wait till the upgrade is finished

Thank you

[dim pendant]

So please hold until chain upgrade is completed.

[kind flare]

I've just put our staking dashboard into maintenance mode. We'll disable maintenance mode once the chain is upgraded 🙂

[wicked ridge]

Tick on yes with your voting power on some of the Voting created once the upgrade complete.. to test the system💯 😀

[upper lichen]

Which pairs did you propose?

[silk sparrow]

@kind flare can you please vote for P540 ALGO / BNB thank you 🙂

[wicked ridge]

hi, proposal 529 and 530. Silver against USDT and WTI crude oil against USDT

[upper lichen]

They're still upgrading I think

[drowsy hull]

Question: when creating markets that involves a non-crypto asset (i.e. stock or commodity), there are various denominations to pick from (i.e. usdt, usdc, inj, etc.). Will benefits be created for using INJ over other denominations such as stable coins in trading pairs like this to stimulate INJ adoption? (much like Binance has done/is trying to do with their BNB)

Getting these types of markets going I believe is a real game-changer and making sure INJ is the preferred denomination of choice to trade with on Equinox sounds logical to me but would love to hear the current thinking and strategy around this.

[hollow tulip]

@drowsy hull stablecoins are ideal as the quote currency

i don't know what kind of maniac would want to trade with leverage when the quote currency is not a stablecoin

when the base currency's value is volatile (and hence you want to trade it), wanting a non-stablecoin for a quote currency where it is prone to manipulation on spot exchanges for relatively cheap is surely not ideal for retail traders

[upper lichen]

I agree, but have you ever bought or sold on bnb pairs?

[hollow tulip]

not using margin

i think trading on uniswap with eth-paired AMMs is a good analogue as well, since eth is also not a stablecoin. it works because eth is not easily manipulated or as volatile as a lower cap coin can easily become, and there's no use of margin

[shrewd depot]

Just curious, service/exchange down for upgrate at test net phase is normal. but what will be after main net lunched? is the team still hold the power to shut down the main net or it will be always online when there is at least 1 live node

[kind flare]

This is one ofnthe reason why we have the testnet, so we can find the best, quickest and most convenient method for making upgrades to our chain. So, to answer your question: nope, we wont have such a downtime.

[kind flare]

** Injective Chain Upgrade - 20 Apr ** 🎉 @here

We successfully did an upgrade on our Injective Chain. As this was our first upgrade on our chain we faced some minor issues during upgrade. We had connection failures between sentry and validator nodes. We resolved these issues and our chain is upgraded successfully. The chain is running stable for a while now with exported genesis file and most importantly we are back online!

We learned a lot during the process for future upgrades. Thanks for your patience and happy staking! 🙌🏻

[primal terrace]

We'll have more updates soon 🙂

[zenith shard]

Yes. We need something new. And marketing to get more people onboard 😁

[light gale]

Hi guys, can someone explain me why all my rewards disappeared ?

[primal terrace]

Hey, could you elaborate? Was your delegated amount decreased or the rewards from the validator(s) disappeared without claiming?

[light gale]

Yes my delegated amount decreased. Now i have exactly same amount witch i started with

[primal terrace]

I see. That's most probably due to slashing but that doesn't really affect you in this phase as the injective chain balance and KINJ are just test assets. Your whole pre-staked amount will be returned to you at the end of the phase and you will also get rewards directly at your Ethereum address (you can see from the calculator how many INJs you'll receive approximately). Keep in mind that slashing on Mainnet will result in you losing bonded tokens so choosing you validator is a very important decision.

[tall plover]

same here

[tall plover]

Thanks👍🏻

[light gale]

thanks, but slashing validatort cause just a loss of few percent right ? i staked with 2 different validators and i lost 100% of my rewards from last 3 weeks. Iknow it wont affect my rewards at the end of testnet but its wierd thats why iam asking 🙂

[primal terrace]

No problem. FYI, Slashing is a mechanism built into proof of stake blockchain protocols to discourage validator misbehavior. Slashing events are downtime and double-sign. Double-sign refers to double-spend or chain forks. Depending on the incident and the level of severity, the validator and delegators will lose different amount of coins bonded (could be 0.01% or even 5%) and when double-sign occurs the validator is not possible to re-enter the active validator set that participates in the consensus. Also, depending on the incident, the validator might go into the Unbonding State (which will be a lot more than 1 day on Mainnet) and you won't be able to Unbond tokens or re-delegate when the validator is in the Unbonding State. The validator can get slashed during the Active and Unbonding State so basically you might keep losing bonded tokens until the validator goes into the Unbonded State (whether the validator will get slashed during the Unbonding State too really depends). The reward mechanism for this phase ensures that all stakers will receive rewards regardless of validator downtime, but you should look into all validators and make the best decision for you come Mainnet. Our team has provided a lot of information on our validators here: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/learn/ 🙂

[primal terrace]

See above and let me know if you have any questions 🙂

[light gale]

Ok, thanks man

[wicked ridge]

Good to see system back online💯

[silk sparrow]

👍

[tall plover]

hello, i staked 548 INJ a few weeks ago. today i just have 549....i guess a couple are locked up in proposals made ....and will be returned....but i dont see where on the UI one can see coins locked up in governance proposals...

[primal terrace]

Hey, you can't see how many INJs you deposited in proposals (maybe the team is working on that for Mainnet but I wouldn't know for sure). Also, the delegated amount may be decreased due to slashing, see here for more information: #🚀・dev-support message

[dim pendant]

@tall plover what's you inj address?

[tall plover]

0xd82b17c507894d26712dd251b64dd2ead8b9d481

[dim pendant]

@tall plover you can find injective address on wallet page. it starts with inj prefix

[tall plover]

inj1mq4303g839xjvufd6fgmvnwjatvtn4yp74auu4

[light gale]

inj1h6fwdpxd7ydslk0uc0x0rhjy5pdueefxc3eh50

[abstract cedar]

@dim pendant I've staked 6000 INJ about 2 days ago and now it is 5938. is it because of the slashing?

[dim pendant]

@abstract cedar yes.

[abstract cedar]

Alright, if I get it right from this thread, slashing wont affect the pre-staked amount on the test net. isn't? and could someone lead me to the page to learn how to setup a validator.

[dim pendant]

@abstract cedar It won't affect your pre-staked amount and also your rewards.

[primal terrace]

Documentation on how to host a node on our chain will become available before Mainnet 🙂

[abstract cedar]

thanks 👍

[tall plover]

hey! is there a way to currently create new denoms?

can't seem to manage it 😉

[primal terrace]

Hey, you can create a new denom using this guide. Let me know if you need any help :)

In order to create a new denom, you would have to deploy a smart contract and mint an ERC20 token. There is website which allows you to mint a token without writing code here: https://vittominacori.github.io/erc20-generator/create-token/

Define the fields as follows:

Token Name (The token you would like to propose, e.g. INJ): INJ

Token Symbol: INJ

Token Decimals: 18

Initial Supply (Any positive integer, e.g. 1000): 1000

Token Type: StandardERC20

Network: Kovan Test Network

Click confirm and then in the next screen click the button “Add to Metamask” and approve the transaction. Lastly, there is a contract address below the token name which you have to copy and provide it to the requested field during the denom creation.

[wide mountain]

hey, how I can find my proposals on governance page?

[primal terrace]

Did you create it just now or before the chain upgrade?

[wide mountain]

it was 3 or 4 days ago

[primal terrace]

Your proposal was probably in the ones that expired during our chain upgrade if you can't find it in accepted/rejected but you can always create a new one :)

[tall plover]

ah that's the issue i understood it wrong - thought it's about adding new tokens / token/pairs and not creating a completely new one

but thats interesting - thanks 🙂

so how about getting in new coins? for example i wanted to create some pairs for binance backed projects

but couldnt make it 😉

[tall plover]

How many INJ will be needed to host a node ?

[hollow tulip]

There is no hard minimum (must be non-zero) but nodes included in the active set of validators are capped at N nodes ranked from most to least inj, so the minimum will depend on who else is hosting a node and how much INJ they have staked (self-staked and delegated) with them

[tall plover]

Thanks ,the more I know the more I love this project 🙂

[fervent ore]

Hey @winged maple I just proposed the TRX/XRP spot trading pair proposal #556 can you guys please vote on that?

[winged maple]

Sure will take a look

[dim pendant]

@fervent ore Voted for all existing proposals

[tall plover]

TRX and XRP together to form one giga scam

[worthy kernel]

I just proposed UNCX/INJ spot trading pair, proposal #557. Can you guys vote on that please?

[steady elm]

@hollow tulip any chance you could possibly help me answer a question regarding staking?

[hollow tulip]

ask it and let's find out

[steady elm]

LOL, love it! One sec while I type it out.

[steady elm]

Ok so I think Im missing a step. I staked my INJ directly on the site through https://staking.injective.network/stake/ and I went through the 7 day pre-stake period (which ended 3-4 days ago) but now I dont see anything happening. No growth, no new tokens so I feel like Im supposed to do something next I just dont know what.

[hollow tulip]

if you go to the Wallet page, do you see any balances at the top?

[hollow tulip]

https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/equinox-staking-walkthrough/

start at step 3

[steady elm]

YEESSS!!!!

I knew there had to be a writeup like this somewhere!

I hate asking for help when I know the info is out there so I really appreciate this

[hollow tulip]

and when you delegate, be sure to leave 1 inj in your injective chain balance (don't delegate everything, leave 1) so you can get the propose spot market apy boost https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/injective-governance-launch-spot-markets/

glad i could help

[steady elm]

"and when you delegate, be sure to leave 1 inj in your injective chain balance (don't delegate everything, leave 1) so you can get the propose spot market apy boost" ROGER THAT! Thank you for the tip. 🤓 🙏

[primal terrace]

Well basically you mint your own token and can name it as you want to. You could even mint a token and name it "xyz", your pairs should be ERC20 tokens but you could mint and propose non-ERC20 pairs too at the moment. However, on Mainnet, pairs would need to be realistic and also possible to implement. For instance, if you proposed a BSC pair, it wouldn't be possible to list it yet as we have no bridge at the moment.

[tall plover]

So mainnet will support only ERC20 in the first phase?

[primal terrace]

Multi-chain bridges are already supported natively through the IBC but I don't know if the team is working on integration with chains outside cosmos such as Solana. We'll get more information before Mainnet :)

[tall plover]

Hi all, probably n00b question. I recently deposited INJ, so I could started staking. Then I connected to Kovan Network and transferred it to Injective chain in order to delegate.

Q: I tried to claim some rewards and transferred it to Kovan network. But how do I convert it to Ethereum Mainnet (Basically “normal” INJ ERC-20) tokens? Or is there any other way to withdraw? Thanks!

[primal terrace]

Hey, basically when you stake your tokens, you send them to our deposit manager in Ethereum and we mint KINJ which are only test assets to ensure that your funds will be safe as we test our chain. Then you bridge your KINJ over to the injective chain and you interact with our chain. Your claimed rewards from validators don't really matter for this phase, we are only looking to educate our users, at the end of the competition we will send you rewards (see from the calculator an approximate amount) directly to your Ethereum address and you will also withdraw your pre-staked amount. If you withdraw any amount back to Ethereum from the STAKE page before this phase is over you won't get any rewards.

[tall plover]

Ah okay, thanks for your reply. Besides the rewards, does the KINJ balance also get automatically transferred to my Ethereum address? Or is any other action required

[primal terrace]

No worries. Well you should transfer all your KINJ over to the injective chain so that you can utilize them by delegating, voting, proposing markets etc. they have no use being on Kovan. Doesn't really matter if you have them on Kovan or the Injective chain, you will be able to withdraw them in the end as you're basically withdrawing them from the deposit manager 🙂

[tall plover]

okay, yes I transferred everything to the injective chain in order to delegate, I was just wondering 🙂 thanks again, have a nice day!

[primal terrace]

You too :)

[tired nacelle]

Would you guys be so kind to vote on my proposal #P561 - INJ/REP, Thank you!

[steady elm]

Anyone available to answer a Delegation question?

[primal terrace]

Sure! Go ahead

[steady elm]

I read a bunch of your responses to other people before typing anything. Just wanted to say I really appreciate the way you communicate. Very clear and concise.

[steady elm]

So Im done with Pre-Staking and Ive transferred everything over to the Injective Chain. Now Im on the Validators tab and Im looking at all the different options for Delegation and Im just not sure what the difference is. Is there an article somewhere where I can read up on Citadel.one vs injective-internal-1 ??

FYI - Citadel.one vs injective-internal-1 is just an example.

I just want to know what Im delegating too.

[primal terrace]

Sure. For this phase, the rewards from validators don't really matter as we will distribute rewards based on the pre-staking amount, the day you pre-staked and the boosts completed. That being said, if a validator gets slashed you won't lose any tokens. Upon Mainnet, the rewards from validators will be your sole rewards so choosing your validator(s) is a very important decision and would be best to delegate to more than one upon Mainnet as to ensure that you'll keep earning rewards if one of your validators is slashed and possibly goes into the Unbonding State. You should account for commission fees, as well as the reputation of each validator (we have onboarded some of the well-known validators in the space). Injective-internal-1,2,3,4 are genesis validators that are managed by the team so you shouldn't delegate to them. You can read information about all our validators here: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/learn/ and let me know if you have any more questions 🙂

Information on slashing here: #🚀・dev-support message

[steady elm]

Achilleas, my dude, thank you so much! This was crazy helpful!!

[primal terrace]

No problem 🙂

[glass dock]

2 quick questions and comment...I thought THETA was hard to purchase..I took one in the bum buying INJ on bitmart..Staking I realize you pay gas fees transfering your INJ in but do you have to pay gas fees to take your INJ out? And "Pre"staking do you get actual INJ

[primal terrace]

Yes, you'd have to pay ETH gas fees to get your tokens back from the deposit manager to your ETH wallet when this phase is over. So at the end of the phase, you will withdraw the whole pre-staking amount and we will send you rewards directly to your Ethereum address (see the calculator for an approximate estimation)

[glass dock]

ok thanks..any alternatives to buy INJ in the US? cost me 203 us to buy 150 USDT then purchase fees and then 2 INJ around $30to transfer to my cold wallet

[primal terrace]

You could look into buying from a DEX but you'll certainly have to pay gas fees.

[upper lichen]

Soon there will be a DEX which will solve many of these issues

[glass dock]

are the rewards bigger when staking to offset the ETH gas fees

[primal terrace]

To calculate potential rewards, you should do the following: consider APY x (where x is the APY you can get based on daily APY and tasks completed, minimum 15%, maximum 29%). Then you do x / 365 * INJ_amount * days_you_think_this_phase_will_last. For instance, if you're staking 500 INJ and you believe this will last 40 days more it would be 0.29 / 365 * 500 * 40 = 15.89 INJ (these would be your rewards, distributed at the end of the phase directly to your address, so basically you're not earning compound interest). Now, the average fees to stake are around 50$ and you'll also need somewhere around 35-40$ to withdraw so you will essentially do the math depending on you amount of INJ you're holding and the days you think this phase will last and decide if it's worth it. Unfortunately, Ethereum fees are very high so it really depends on the amount you have :)

[glass dock]

well if I didn't take in the A#$ from Bitmart I would of staked some. Thanks for all your great information. I'm pretty new to crypto..Not into day trading just long term, maybe take some profits on some big upswings. Can't believe how many exchanges I had to sign up for to buy the coins I wanted. Maybe someday they will have all the coins available on one exchange..

[kind flare]

You can propose any pairs on our exchange through governance 🙂

[glass dock]

you mean like simple swap like xlm for xrp

"our exchange" which one are you referring to

[tall plover]

it's more like trading pair

[tall plover]

injective protocol

propose pairs that you like to trade in through injective governance

[glass dock]

when will the exchange go live

[tall plover]

mainnet is scheduled for Q2

[glass dock]

what other coins you holding or are we only allowed to talk about INJ in this channel

[tall plover]

this channel is only for discussion regarding equinox staking

[glass dock]

got it thanks

[tall plover]

#🐳・degen-chat

[tall plover]

Hi. I moved 450 ERC-20 INJ to kovan and then to injective network. I ended up with 1450 INJ that I staked. Why isn't it 1:1?

Should I be happy or the exchange rate is not 1:1? 🙂

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #💬・general message

[tall plover]

Thanks, it makes sense.

[native wing]

Hi INJ team. Does it matter how much of our INJ we delegate to a validator? Some have 8% commission rates with almost 600k INJ staked and some have 100% commission rates with only 5k INJ staked. How do we decide the right validator to trust?

P.S. Michael from the INJ team is absolutely amazing!!!

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here 🙂 #🚀・dev-support message

[tall plover]

Bug report (?):

on Governance / Voting
Select a proposal to vote on with 0% as NO
Vote NO
After vote was applied : NO still displays "0%"
But my wallet is properly listed as voted NO
(did try with about 5-6 proposal and always get the same issue)
(did try with "xx%" NO's ans my voting power get added to "xx%")

[native wing]

[nocturne spear]

are your testnet INJ not delegated? If so, your voting weight is practically zero. Only delegated testnet INJ add weight to your vote afaik.

[primal terrace]

It's a known issue and the team is looking into it :)

[worthy kernel]

@dim pendant Would you like to vote on UNCX/INJ spot trading pair, proposal #557 . Voting ends in an hour 🙂

[hollow tulip]

i'll vote! this puts you over the top

[worthy kernel]

Yeah, I think I need 6.4MM+ votes to get over quorum... and it seems like it just went over that. Thanks guys!

[hollow tulip]

that's correct

[drowsy hull]

I'll vote!

[dim pendant]

Done

[drowsy hull]

Done

[shrewd idol]

Hello, are the current rewards accurate? it says I should be getting 0.5 inj daily but I'm getting like 0.25 instead

And there are 20 inj slashed from my account so far. Am I getting these back?

[hollow tulip]

the rewards are calculated based on the total APY you have unlocked by completing apy boosts (+ baseline) and your prestaked inj amount, so don't worry too much about your injective chain balance

[shrewd idol]

So does it matter if I compound these rewards rn or not?

[hollow tulip]

it does not

but claiming and re-staking does unlock an apy boost

[shrewd idol]

When will be able to get the rewards?

[hollow tulip]

so you just need to do that once

at the end of the staking competition rewards will be distributed

[shrewd idol]

I see, thanks

[lunar star]

Hello guys, is there any way to avoid stupid ETH fees to stake INJ?

[primal terrace]

Hey, unfortunately not. You can only stake with ERC20 at the moment, there are plans for cross-chain integration at a later stage 🙂

[lunar star]

Ach looking forward then

ETH fees are killers

[primal terrace]

It's not expected to be completed at this phase, so if you want to take part in the competition you'd have to stake with ERC20. When we go on Mainnet, you will also be able to send your tokens through our Peggy Bridge over to our chain which will cost you some ETH fees but then you'll have your tokens on our chain with almost no gas fees.

[lunar star]

Harmony network cooperation

would be so nice ^^

[kind anvil]

Hi @soft dome we would like to be validators is there still room for it. Can you direct me to the official docs please

[primal terrace]

Hey, the team has finished the validators' onboarding for this phase. They will provide documentation on how to run a node before Mainnet 🙂

[kind anvil]

Ah

ok

do you see any scope in future?

[primal terrace]

Could you elaborate on that?

[kind anvil]

will there be a chance for us to be considered in future for validator onboarding

[primal terrace]

Well anybody can become a validator candidate by sending a create-validator transaction, then if you have the minimum amount of tokens that will be required and also the infrastructure and technical knowledge to run one you might be able to run a node. We'll get detailed information on the process before Mainnet 🙂

[kind anvil]

cool

whats the minimum req

[primal terrace]

Not sure yet, will be in the documentation before Mainnet.

[kind anvil]

Ok

[glad rapids]

are you planing partner with ANKR for node deployment? Would be nice to see INJ in their node list 🙂 I'm already renting beacon node and it's best way to avoid slashing

[primal terrace]

Hey, I don't really know if the team is looking into partnering with ANKR but we'll probably find out before Mainnet 🙂

[glad rapids]

🤞

and about 'Special Epic tasks' when and where I can find them?

[primal terrace]

We haven't released epic tasks yet, we will inform everyone through all available channels when we do 🙂

[glad rapids]

awesome, thank you

[wide mountain]

I've run out my KINJ, and my proposal was rejected. How I can refill my account and create new proposal?

Actully I just need funds to create new proposal, how I can get KINJs for that?

@primal terrace

[primal terrace]

Hey, you can't receive more KINJ. You can create a new proposal with only 1 INJ and ask Michael or another team member to deposit the rest as well as vote for it 🙂

[wide mountain]

I have none, everything is spent on rejected proposal.😩

[wide mountain]

Can we do something about it?

[primal terrace]

Not really but you can unbond a few tokens or even 1 to propose a new market 🙂

[wary oxide]

Even with all my claiming and delegating rewards I have less than the initial stake I put in. Why?

[wide mountain]

How do I unbound?

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🚀・dev-support message

[primal terrace]

From the WALLET page, you would just click unbond from a validator and put in a number

[wide mountain]

Thanks

[safe kiln]

Hi, have the special epic tasks been released yet?

[primal terrace]

Hey, not yet 🙂

[grim crypt]

hi, i've accidentally delegated my 1000INJ test takon to the current validator that i delegated to ( Ubik Capital ). Should i unbond 1000INJ?

[primal terrace]

Hey, you can use the 1000KINJ as you seem fit. You can use them to propose a market, delegate them or deposit to proposals. You don't have to use them for a specific reason:)

[grim crypt]

will i receive the 1000INJ or just the reward after the competition

[primal terrace]

Nope. See here: #💬・general message 🙂

[grim crypt]

thanks

[stone patrol]

Is there a way to see if your validator gets slashed?

[primal terrace]

Not at the moment, but I think the team is working on a panel that will show validator statistics/performance (not sure if slashing events will be visible)

[stone patrol]

Okay. I'll look forward to that update. Is there an eta for when that'll be implemented?

[primal terrace]

I wouldn't know, possibly upon Mainnet, we will get more information before Mainnet surely :)

[stone patrol]

Sounds good, Buddy

[tall plover]

Hi, I've just submitted Proposal N°580

May I ask the team to push the votes on it please ?

[hollow tulip]

voted

[tall plover]

Thanks a lot 🪄

[shrewd idol]

Hi, can you please vote on my submitted proposal? https://staking.injective.network/proposals/574
thanks

[dim pendant]

@shrewd idol Done

[obsidian pulsar]

@soft dome are you able to private message me, i have a question about staking id like to keep private. thanks in advance.

[glad rapids]

Can I suggest a minor imporovement: When I claim my reward and want to stack it back - can the team add "Delegate" button on your current validators? Otherwise I have to go to "validators" page click 'Delegate' and for me seems a bit extra clicks that are annoying

[obsidian pulsar]

does anyone else have less coins than when you started staking? i get rewards but coins are going missing... 20 odd coins vanished 2 days ago... (got screenshots)

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🚀・dev-support message
and here: #🚀・dev-support message

[obsidian pulsar]

i feel like i need that explained in noob terms

[primal terrace]

Well, basically you lose delegated tokens, due to slashing (slashing is explained in the second thread). The reward mechanism for this testnet phase is designed to ensure that all stakers will get rewards regardless of validator downtime but slashing would affect you upon Mainnet so would be best to read the second thread to fully understand what it would mean. At the end of this testnet phase you will get back your whole pre-staked amount as well as rewards (see the calculator for an approximate amount), so if you see your delegated amount decreased, there's no need to worry. KINJ and the Injective Chain balance are just test tokens, the funds you deposited are safe in our deposit manager.

[obsidian pulsar]

oh right. Appreciate the explanation, thanks for taking the time.

[primal terrace]

We'll provide the documentation and minimum requirements before Mainnet 🙂

[lunar star]

I got one question. Will Binance have inj network ?

To transfer coins ?

[primal terrace]

You mean if you'll be able to transfer native INJ upon Mainnet?

[lunar star]

Yes

To avoid eth

Fees

[primal terrace]

Well, you'll surely be able to transfer them through our Peggy Bridge which will cost some ETH fees but I'm not sure if you'll be able to buy INJ on an exchange such as Binance and transfer them over to our chain directly, upon Mainnet. You'll probably be able to do it at some point, but I don't know if that will take a while or will be available on Mainnet release, maybe a team member could reply on that 🙂

[lunar star]

I just don’t want to be a sponsor for eth network

I hate it

[zenith shard]

Well, you'll surely be able to transfer them through our Peggy Bridge which will cost some ETH fees but I'm not sure if you'll be able to buy INJ on an exchange such as Binance and transfer them over to our chain directly, upon Mainnet. You'll probably be able to do it at some point, but I don't know if that will take a while or will be available on Mainnet release, maybe a team member could reply on that 🙂
@primal terrace i suppose Binance will support inj upgrade. It would make no sense to be otherway

[primal terrace]

We never said that the APY will be 3% upon Mainnet. We will provide more information on that before Mainnet.

No worries. 3% was the Base APY for this testnet phase which we changed but we haven't announced the APY for Mainnet yet 🙂

[wide mountain]

Please deposit my proposal #P589 - POND/UFT and vote for it. I believe I can make it.😃

[formal trail]

Hi , after my proposal posted yesterday, I have searched today and it’s disappeared why ?

[primal terrace]

Hey, that's most likely because you proposed a duplicate pair. Do you remember what the pair was?

[formal trail]

Cel/usdt

[formal trail]

Ok thanks, but should I not ricevé the 1000 amount back and do another proposal?

[primal terrace]

It really depends on the outcome of your proposal (quorom/threshold). Your tokens may get burned in three cases, (1) MinDeposit 1000 INJ was not met by the end of the deposit period so the deposited tokens will be burned (2) quorum was not reached if your proposal passed to the voting stage (33.4% of all staked coins must have voted in) and (3) your proposal has more than 33.4% of the votes No with Veto (which will be possible on Mainnet, but not in this phase). That being said, in this phase you don't really lose any tokens as these are just test assets and your pre-staked amount is safe but you would lose real tokens upon Mainnet in the cases mentioned above 🙂

[formal trail]

Ok thanks, very clear

What I have seen is that’s very hard for 33,4 of them to vote , another ways should be , to “ force” somehow to participate every day with yes/no

[primal terrace]

Well, we have 19.2m tokens staked right now and only around 2.2m tokens are staked by the community as the rest are minted by the team for the genesis validators. Thus, for your proposal to pass, team members would have to vote for it. Michael and Bojan are usually the ones to do it, so you could ask them and they could possibly help you out if they are not busy 🙂

[obsidian pulsar]

@primal terrace doing a great job in here

[formal kettle]

Quick question: is it possible to add to my initial stake on the testnet and receive additional rewards once staking goes to mainnet? I bought more INJ since pre staking began and would like to add it, if it won't impact existing rewards.

[hollow tulip]

You can add more, just note that the APY will be applied separately to the added INJ (since it starts accruing when added). It won't impact existing rewards negatively at all

[light gale]

Hi, when testnet ends and mainnet release do we need to complete tasks again to get extra APY ?

[hollow tulip]

Mainnet will not provide APY boosts. There will be a variable APY on delegation that depends on mainnet usage

The equinox staking competition is just to get you acquainted with delegation and staking concepts in preparation for mainnet staking

[light gale]

ok, thank you

[strange wharf]

hi is BSC supported to transfer to staking? or only ERC20 - its expensive to transfer

anyone here tried liquid swap on binance using inj? is it worth it thanks

[primal terrace]

Hey, you can only stake with ERC20 INJ at the moment, the team is working on cross-chain integration at a later stage :)

[strange wharf]

ok thanks eth fees are too high :)

[primal terrace]

Yes, unfortunately, depending on the amount you hold might not be worth it.

[slim warren]

can someone explain to me, why I'm now having less INJ, than I staked weeks ago?

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🚀・dev-support message and here: #🚀・dev-support message

[slim warren]

so at the moment I will still get back my initial staked amount + the ones I earned during the current state?

[primal terrace]

Yes, you won't lose any pre-staked tokens or rewards due to slashing for this phase.

[slim warren]

thanks you very much for the clarification 🙂

[uncut estuary]

hiho! May I ask if someone knows what could be the reason why no more INJs are displayed after the transfer from kovan to the injective chain? Does it sometimes just take longer or has something gone wrong? Thank you in advance and cheers

[primal terrace]

Hey, it might take up to an hour. Could you send me your wallet address in a DM to look into it?

[stone patrol]

I think my Validator got slashed too, lost a few inj from my initial investment. Good to know during the test net phase we lose nothing though.

[upper lichen]

There don't currently seem to be any proposals to vote for?

[hollow tulip]

correct

[upper lichen]

Are people not listing them, or is that phase giving way?

[hollow tulip]

actually, it looks like there's a few now (i just filled their deposits up)

[indigo coyote]

The INJ team are very good looking and practise great hygiene. On an unrelated note, please vote yes for proposal 603

[supple token]

I wanted to take advantage of the low gaz fees today but I’m blocked at the prestake phase. Still processing after almost an hour.

[primal terrace]

If it's still processing that means that the transaction is pending. If you look for it in etherscan you'll probably see it pending and it will show completed when it's sorted, the UI doesn't block you it's rather the ETH transaction that is taking a while to complete.

[supple token]

Hi guys I’m at the very last step. I chose my validator, confirmed on metamask (kovan) but got an error message saying that “metamask message signature : not supported on this device” ps : I use metamask with a ledger

[primal terrace]

Hey, you're logged in with Ledger and MetaMask. Log out and login with Ledger directly.

[supple token]

I tried but couldn’t find my Eth address on the listing

[primal terrace]

See here: #🚀・dev-support message

[supple token]

It worked thanks a lot ! I’m a happy new delegator now !

[primal terrace]

No problem!

[supple token]

This is a high concentration on 2 validators, isn’t it a problem for decentralization ?

Shouldn’t we be incentivized on choosing smaller ones ?

[primal terrace]

Well it's up to the community to choose validators. I believe that bonded tokens are concentrated to only a few validators because of low commission fees which is irrelevant for this phase as claimed rewards from validators and generally the injective chain balance won't matter in the end. Rewards will be distributed in the end based on the pre-staking amount and boosts completed. Commission fees, should be only one of the metric you would use to choose your validator(s) come Mainnet. We have onboarded some of the most well-known validators in the space on which you can find information here: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/learn/ and make the right decision for you as risks such as slashing might result in you losing bonded tokens.

[signal hound]

"Rewards will be distributed in the end based on the pre-staking amount and boosts completed." what is the dealio with adding more tokens after having pre-staked for a while?

[primal terrace]

You can add more INJ but the new INJ tokens you deposit will get the APY from the day you pre-stake them and not from the beginning.

[signal hound]

awesome thank you!

[primal terrace]

No problem, Mr. Cheesy!

[sly nacelle]

Is there a way to check my proposal was passed or rejected ?

@primal terrace

[primal terrace]

You can look for it in the accepted/rejected status but if you can't find it there that would mean that your proposal was duplicate (you proposed a pair that was proposed and accepted before)

[sly nacelle]

and what is the Special Epic tasks ? Is there some examples ?

[primal terrace]

We haven't released them yet 🙂

[zenith shard]

Hello! Assuming one wants to withdraw their staked assets from equinox competition. What are the steps for that?

[primal terrace]

Hey! See here: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[sly nacelle]

thx 🙂

[zenith shard]

Thanks 👌

[sly nacelle]

@primal terrace Is there a way to check duplicated pair ?

[primal terrace]

Well you'd have to search for the pair you intend to propose in the deposit/accepted stage and then proceed if you don't see it. I'd advise to create a new denom to ensure you won't have any duplicates. There's a guide here: #🚀・dev-support message and I can also create it for you if you stumble on any issues.

[zenith shard]

Hey! See here: #🧬︲helix-chat message
@primal terrace what happens if you withdraw a smaller portion then what you have in stake? You get only the amount you’ve withdrawn?
And what happens if you withdraw a higher amount than what you’ve put originally? You get the whole amount that you have in the deposit manager?

[primal terrace]

You can't withdraw higher amount than what you've put originally. You can only withdraw x where x = your pre-staked amount. Validator rewards won't be in there.

[zenith shard]

But can you withdraw a small amount?

[primal terrace]

Sure. You can withdraw an equal or less amount than what you've originally pre-staked but there is really no point in withdrawing less as if you do withdraw any amount then your address is listed and will get no rewards in the end. So you're either all in or all out 🙂

[zenith shard]

Yea i know that. Thanks 💪

[upper lichen]

I think the ultimate epic task will be transferring ones tokens to Injective on Mainnet!

[primal terrace]

Well even if we wanted to that would be kind of impossible as you'd first need to withdraw from the deposit manager back to your ETH address and then transfer the coins through our Peggy bridge to get the native one. We'd have to apply the boosts and calculate rewards before anyone withdraws from the deposit manager 🙂

[zenith shard]

But the idea is nice :))

[cedar stirrup]

Hello! Does the trading pair that I propose matter as long as it is not a duplicate of a previously passed proposal for this test phase? Will the Injective team still help it get passed?

[hollow tulip]

It needs to be a non-duplicate, but also please make it sensible. Use a stablecoin for the quote denom please and I will assist you with the deposit and votes

[cedar stirrup]

Ok, perfect, yeah I assumed it'd need to be reasonable

Is there a stablecoin that is preferred?

[hollow tulip]

no preference

[cedar stirrup]

I was planning on doing a SWAP/BUSD pair

[hollow tulip]

that works

[cedar stirrup]

ok, sweet

Right, I was about to make a proposal last night but was confused by the Base Denom selection

In this case would SWAP not be the base?

[hollow tulip]

swap would be base, busd would be quote

[cedar stirrup]

Right, but swap is not one of the options

Ah I see

Ok I'll create the new denom

So I need to have SWAP in my kovan wallet?

[hollow tulip]

is that contract on kovan or mainnet ethereum?

correct

[cedar stirrup]

mainnet

[hollow tulip]

needs to be kovan

you probably have to mint it

https://vittominacori.github.io/erc20-generator/create-token/

[cedar stirrup]

interesting, ok!

am I meant to mirror the real coin in any way (like for supply)?

[hollow tulip]

not really

you're mostly just trying to mirror the name and ticker

[cedar stirrup]

Ok, so I submitted it with the 1mil swap I made, does it take some time for swap to come up as an option?

[primal terrace]

Might take a while yes, try refreshing the page as well.

[cedar stirrup]

Alright, wicked

[primal terrace]

You'd need to unbond some INJ to propose a market.

This field looks at your Injective Chain balance

You can claim rewards if they are > 0.32 INJ as you need 1 🙂

[cedar stirrup]

I have 1k in my wallet, but this needs to be on the injective chain?

[primal terrace]

Yeah. Just transfer it over to the Injective Chain

[cedar stirrup]

Ok! Perfect :]

[cedar stirrup]

https://staking.injective.network/proposals/613

Alright, I believe it should be good to go :]

[hot escarp]

does anyone know if I'm adding coins to my validator pool correctly?

I pre staked extra tokens but my validator is showing the same amount and I have nothing showing up in mainnet, kovan, injective chain

but it shows the correct balance in my total pre staked tokens

[cedar stirrup]

^Sorry unrelated, but I successfully made a proposal for SWAP/BUSD #P613 and am just curious what the best way to get it approved is. No rush, thanks for the help so far :]

[primal terrace]

There's been some delays with minting KINJ tokens and our devs are looking into it so if you've prestaked and haven't received your KINJ yet it will be resolved soon. Upon receiving the KINJ, you'd then have to transfer them over to the Injective Chain to re-delegate, propose markets and generally interact with our chain 🙂

[primal terrace]

Hey, have a look here: #🚀・dev-support message

[primal terrace]

Service fixed, should receive your KINJ shortly 🙂

@hot escarp

[cedar stirrup]

Hello! My #P613 proposal yesterday is no longer visible in any of the governance tabs (neither approved, rejected, or the voting page), I believe last I checked I had around 4mil votes for YES but am not sure how to check that in the end it was passed. Is there any way for me to tell this?

[primal terrace]

Hey! See here: #🚀・dev-support message

[cedar stirrup]

Ok interesting, I dont believe my pair could have been a duplicate because I had to create the base denom as swap since it wasn't an option before

[primal terrace]

Could you give me the proposal ID and pair?

[cedar stirrup]

Yeah #P613 SWAP/BUSD

[primal terrace]

Second page in the rejected proposals.

[cedar stirrup]

Ah ok! Sorry I assumed the pages were organized numerically

Am I able to just make the same pair available and hope that the team see it in time to vote yes?

[primal terrace]

No problem! The proposals are sorted per page and when the maximum displayed number of proposals is reached (per page) then they are sorted, then next page. Sure you can propose the same one, you'd need around 6.2m votes for your proposal to pass so you need two team members to vote for you 🙂

[cedar stirrup]

Ok! Thanks :]

Alright, #P621 is the new one, are you able to contribute the 1k so that it can go into voting?

[primal terrace]

I don't have 1k in the injective chain balance to deposit for you but if you find a team member to vote for your proposal then they can also deposit for you 🙂

[cedar stirrup]

Ok, do you know the best way to find them? I'm assuming pinging isn't allowed right?

[primal terrace]

Bojan, Michael and Venkatesh are usually the ones to do it, so you could ask them here as soon as you see them online and they can help you out if they are not busy.

[cedar stirrup]

Alright great, thanks!

[primal terrace]

You're welcome

[cedar stirrup]

Hello @kind flare if you have a second would you be able to deposit inj for my proposal #P621 (SWAP/BUSD), if not all good

[kind flare]

sure

[cedar stirrup]

Sweet, much appreciated :]

[kind flare]

done + voted

[cedar stirrup]

Wicked!

[vital jolt]

Ho do I claim my staking rewards? If I log onto my account I can see my total Approximate earnings so far, but if I try t owithdraw my INJ I can only withdraw the amount I originally staked?

[primal terrace]

Hey, you can't withdraw rewards from validators. The interest is not compounding, the rewards will be rather calculated and distributed directly to your wallet at the end of the phase based on the pre-staking amount, the day you pre-staked and boosts completed. Keep in mind that if you do withdraw any amount (even 1 INJ) before the phase ends you will not receive any rewards.

See here for more details: #🤓｜explain-like-im-5 message

[daring apex]

So the rewards on our pre-stake is not compounding?

[primal terrace]

Correct

[tall plover]

and compounding does not increase what rewards you get so u don’t have to do it. it’s based on what u deposited in the contract

[daring apex]

ah ok i get it, so if you stake 1k INJ you only get base apy + bonuses on prestake depending on how long you staked for until end of competition? Rather than compound

[vital jolt]

@primal terrace Thanks for the quick reply and for the link. That's valuable info that I do not remember t have stumbled upon via the pre staking guide that I followed in order to pre stake my INJ. It might have been in there somewhere and I just forgot... Anyway. Do you guys have any idea about when the pre-staking phase will end and the mainnet will launch?

[primal terrace]

No problem. Mainnet is in Q2 and this phase will end just before Mainnet 🙂

[vital jolt]

Awesome. So just around the corner 🙂 Thx 🙏

[cedar stirrup]

Hello @hollow tulip if you have a second would you be able to deposit inj for my proposal #P621 (SWAP/BUSD), if not all good

[hollow tulip]

you mean vote? it's already in voting phase

i just voted for it

[cedar stirrup]

ah yes I meant vote, thank you a ton :]

[hollow tulip]

you should have a quorum now, and with these votes it'll easily pass when voting time ends

[cedar stirrup]

Awesome 😆

[rose pelican]

On pre-staking should I still see the INJ on Ethereum mainnet?

[primal terrace]

You mean on the Injective dashboard? If so, nope. You can look for your pre-staked amount in the deposit manager.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x53f2b8cc450679d04c479a048dc3ff39a4d20d13

[rose pelican]

I believe I transferred the actual ERC20.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x62980cac99b4e2B626F6e75eE38C42AA2CAcA420#tokentxns

[primal terrace]

If you're talking about token balances in your wallet, then you wouldn't see them there either as you essentially deposit your ERC20 tokens to the deposit manager.

[rose pelican]

Ahh...thank you.

[primal terrace]

Yes, that's our deposit manager contract 🙂

[rose pelican]

Thought they were locked in my address on Ethereum main and I saw they moved.

[primal terrace]

They are in the deposit manager and not in your wallet but if you want to un-stake them throughout the phase, you can do so given that they are pre-staked for > 7 days. Keep in mind that if you do un-stake, you won't receive any rewards for the whole phase.

#🧬︲helix-chat message

[halcyon escarp]

Can someone point me to the easiest, most clearly spelled out instructions for staking INJ? Im finding this insanely complicated compared to other staking ive done.

[hollow tulip]

Here is a step by step walkthrough with screenshots https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/equinox-staking-walkthrough/

[rose pelican]

It’s the most complex staking I’ve seen in crypto...it’s doable for sure, but I think it’s too much when the fear of losing coins to a wrong move it added into the mix. The steep learning curve is because they want to teach people how to use the platform. Hopefully it will get easier on mainnet as it will hinder user adoption significantly.

[hollow tulip]

Mainnet staking won't have the pre-stake step, so it will definitely be more streamlined

[tall plover]

That's exactly what I think, and that's the reason I haven't staked anything. When it will be as simple as on BINANCE then
I will transfer my INJs. Surprising for such a powerful protocol to have taken such an escapist route.

[kind flare]

The only reason why we took this route is the safety of your funds. We didnt want to risk you having to stake on a chain that is not properly tested. Its literally the point of the Equinox Staking, you help us test the functionality, we give you rewards for it.

[distant mica]

I can't get my INJ to move from ETH Mainnet into pre-stake. The browser just hangs after I sign. I have left it for 10 minutes or so a few times.

[primal terrace]

Hey. See here: #🚀・dev-support message you could also send me your wallet address in a DM to have a look

[distant mica]

I will try again and be more patient. If that does not work I will be back.

[primal terrace]

Look for your transaction in etherscan, if you see it there pending then you're good. You'd just need to wait for it to be completed no need to do anything more. If you don't see the transaction DM me and we'll look into it together.

[distant mica]

I am having a problem getting my INJ to stake.

[primal terrace]

Hey, I'll DM you to look into it from there.

[sterile finch]

for the tasks? what frequency do we have to complete them monthly? weekly?

[hollow tulip]

only once

but do keep your inj delegated

[sterile finch]

yes sir

[tired kernel]

Hi! Just to now; after the Equinox staking end, do I’ll have to unstake it? Or the staked INJ will automatically be staked on mainnet?

[hollow tulip]

you will have to withdraw it and stake it on mainnet manually at/after the end of the competition

[tired kernel]

Ok! Thanks

[zenith shard]

Ola! What happens with the people / their tokens actually, who can’t manually withdraw during the timeframe given?

[hollow tulip]

withdrawals happen through the DepositManager contract which is live on mainnet ethereum. there is no expiry time for interacting with that contract

[zenith shard]

Awesome

[vagrant hearth]

New to staking on this platform, im having some problem to stake. Someone able to help?

[primal terrace]

Hey! Sure, what's the issue?

[vagrant hearth]

https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/equinox-staking-walkthrough/ , I followed these steps, went smooth but I get an error in the last step to actually start the staking

[primal terrace]

What's the error? Do you have a Ledger?

[vagrant hearth]

yessir

metamask message signature error: not supported on this device.

[primal terrace]

Yeah so basically you have to log out and log back in with Ledger directly rather than MetaMask. Try it out and let me know 🙂

[vagrant hearth]

let me try that, thanks for the quick response. Much appreciated

stupid me, that worked like a charm!

thanks again

[primal terrace]

Perfect, no worries. Have a look here to continue with the governance tasks and let us know if you need anything else: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/injective-governance-launch-spot-markets/

[static frigate]

Hi guys - on the validator screen it would be helpful to see how much I already have delegated to each validator, rather than having to keep switching back and forth between validators and wallet tabs to make a decision on where to delegate accrued staking rewards, just an idea for something that could be added? Or probably even better - to add a delegate button on the wallet tab next to validators we are already assigned to?

[tiny marlin]

Can you guys please vote YES to my proposal? I noticed the link I posted above is not working.

#P637 - DGB/USDT Spot Market Trading Pair

[hollow tulip]

voted

[tiny marlin]

Much appreciated

[coarse kindle]

Is there anyway to tell if my proposal passed or failed?

[primal terrace]

Sure. You can look for it in the Passed and Rejected status in Governance

[coarse kindle]

Yeah I tried that, and then I kinda forgot which pairs I submitted. 😂 I know I am an idiot.

[primal terrace]

It's okay, it happens! Well there is no way to find proposals that were submitted with your address so I suggest to make a new one and make sure to keep the proposal ID as well as pair.

[coarse kindle]

Will do, thanks for the help

[tiny marlin]

@primal terrace would be awesome to have another subsection on 'Governance' with 'Your proposals' wouldn't be that hard to implement tho

[hollow tulip]

the team is busy working on mainnet. the testnet staking dashboard is just a temporary tool for the competition 🙂

[plain lark]

Hi. I pre-staked several weeks ago, and I just went in to claim rewards. In the wallet screen my pre-staked total is about 50 more than my delegation shows below. I assume the delegation should match the total pre-staked amount? It used to when I first deposited and delegated my tokens. Also, it shows my pending rewards to claim but the delegated amount is still less than I initially deposited. I delegated to cosmostation.

[primal terrace]

Hey. See here: #🚀・dev-support message

and here: #🚀・dev-support message

[plain lark]

Thank you! I hadn’t seen those posts. Appreciate the fast response!

[primal terrace]

No worries! 🙂

[tiny marlin]

Can someone let me know the reason my proposal has been rejected?

https://staking.injective.network/proposals/637

Is it because the quorum votes haven't been achieved?

it's #637, IDK why the link is not working

[hollow tulip]

direct links dont work but i will give it a look

yeah it did not reach a quorum, which is 6.5M votes

you would need another team member (besides myself) to vote on it

[tiny marlin]

How can I do that?

[hollow tulip]

if you want to submit again with just 1 inj deposit, i can fill up the rest of the deposit for you and give my votes again

you just need to tag a team member here when they're online and ask

[tiny marlin]

Can I submit the exact same pair?

[hollow tulip]

yes

[tiny marlin]

Will do right now

[hollow tulip]

deposited and voted

[tiny marlin]

@hollow tulip done. #646

[hollow tulip]

now you just need to find 1 more team member

you have 2 green/online to choose from

[tiny marlin]

Thank you

@kind flare @dim pendant can you guys please vote yes to proposal #646?

[dim pendant]

Done

[tiny marlin]

Thank you guys! Appreciate it

[pseudo whale]

Hey Fellow stakers! Can you please vote for my Market proposal 652 UNI/XMR? Thanks!

[hollow tulip]

voted. just be sure to get a quorum by getting another team member to vote (we have a lot of votes!)

[pseudo whale]

thanks man! Il ask also in the telegram group. Have a good one!

[hallow lynx]

sorry for my n00b question, but what is meant with "phase"?

[primal terrace]

No worries. I mean Equinox Staking which is the incentivized testnet we are running now.

[hallow lynx]

ah k thx....according to the roadmap launch of mainnet is in Q2; I assume that testnet ends with the launch of mainnet? So the testnet will run til max. June 30? That would mean that in your calculation the maximum "phase-time" is around 60 days, correct?

[primal terrace]

Correct

[daring apex]

will mainnet have the same GUI as the injective exchange on equinox?

[hollow tulip]

we are making improvements to it, but generally you can expect it to be similar

[grim hedge]

Is there a cool down period/delay if you want to unstake?

[primal terrace]

There's a 7 day lock-up period when you stake.

[grim hedge]

Thank you

[primal terrace]

No worries. See also here: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[formal kettle]

Can anyone please help with a staking question, so I don't mess this up a 2nd time and lose staking rewards again? I'm trying to add to my stake. I didn't see the unlock button from the walkthrough anywhere. After signing the transaction to stake and switching to Kovan, I see my total balance (original stake from last month + new amount), but only my original stake is on Injective Chain. I had a similar problem with pre-staking when it first launched and forfeited my rewards when I didn't transfer properly. My question is will Injective airdrop the newly stake coins to the Injective Chain or do I need to manually transfer just the new portion of my Kovan balance? If so, this seems like a redundant and unnecessarily confusing step. With SNX, for instance, I can simply transfer to Mintr as a single transaction.

[formal kettle]

How do I move the additionally-staked tokens from Kovan to Injective Chain?

[marble turret]

I noticed my delegated amount has been reduced. My validator is Ubik Capital. Does anyone know if they were slashed?

[primal terrace]

Hey. You'd have to transfer them from Kovan to the Injective Chain. As long as you're connected to the Kovan Network on MetaMask you won't be able to withdraw your tokens from the deposit manager so don't worry about forfeiting your rewards. The only way to forfeit your rewards is to withdraw from the STAKE page while being on Ethereum Mainnet. Have a look here: #🤓｜explain-like-im-5 message

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🚀・dev-support message

and here: #🚀・dev-support message

[vagrant hearth]

I just submitted my proposal for a new market, i don't have the required deposit. Only way for this to go thru on Kovan is to really have others make a 1000 INJ deposit? Or any way to get some help? 🙂

Also the list of proposals to vote on is empty, I believe last time I checked there was a large number of proposals

[primal terrace]

Yes, you'd need 1000 INJ deposited for your proposal to pass to the voting stage. You could ask team members to deposit and vote for your proposal. Look for Bojan or Venkatesh and they'll help you out if they are not busy. Yes, the list seems to be empty, that's because all of the proposals in the deposit stage have less than 1000 INJ deposited

[vagrant hearth]

thanks sir

[vagrant hearth]

@kind flare Do you happen to be available to help with that if you are not too busy?

[kind flare]

sure, whats up?

[vagrant hearth]

I stake on Kovan, working on the tasks, but don't have not enough INJ to pass my mkt proposal

Achilleas mentioned u might be able to save me here

id 664

[dim pendant]

@eager finch Which validator did you delegate to?

[kind flare]

Dont worry on this, this is the reason why we have Equniox Staking, to improve our network and its stability, tweak on-chain parameters and make it as convenient and safe for people to stake on our chain

[kind flare]

done + voted

[vagrant hearth]

thanks a lot!

[dim pendant]

@eager finch We had a network upgrade on April 20th. We have tested few scenarios during upgrade to ensure everything is working as expected or not. So validators were slashed as part of it.
After network upgrade, the network is very stable.

[formal trail]

Hey guys! @formal pond @gusty lion @soft dome @kind flare @unkempt island can you please deposit some INJ and vote yes to proposal #671? Thanks a lot

[pseudo whale]

Hey, my latest proposal 652 was rejected. How do i get a new 1000 kovaninj to try again?

[primal terrace]

Hey. If the proposal did not reach quorum, you won't get the 1000 INJ back, you'd have to create a new proposal. If you don't have 1000 INJ to deposit, you can ask a team member to also deposit in your proposal before voting.

[pseudo whale]

Please Deposit and vote for 672. Thanks!

[worthy kindle]

https://staking.injective.network/proposals/673

@kind flare @unkempt island

Hi! can you please pass this proposal?

[formal trail]

I have used the test 1000 inj with the proposal but did not pass, rejected at 2 mil , the new proposal I’ve done I think need attention of admin for vote passing

[formal kettle]

Do I transfer everything from Kovan or just the incremental? Right now, it gives me the option to transfer everything, including tokens already transferred to injective chain from my initial deposit.

[worthy kindle]

https://staking.injective.network/proposals/673

@dim pendant @weary light @tall plover

Hi! Please help and allow this proposal to pass

[dim pendant]

Voted for all available proposals

[upper orchid]

Hello, i have an issue with staking from my ledger. I got my inj from my ledger eth wallet to the inj chain, but now when i try to delegate to a validator, i get the error 'ledger device: INS_NOT_SUPPORTED 0x6d00' how can i get help with this?

[sterile finch]

When is mainnet launching and prestaking finishing?

[pliant pebble]

Hey trying to stake my INJ at seems im getting stuck at the Kovan part. After pre staking my INJ my kovan balance does not reflect the amount it should. Rather it stays at 0

[smoky marten]

I have exactly the same problem as you wizmansion. Pre-staked my INJs 12+ hours ago but my KINJs remain 0.

[dim pendant]

@stiff elk @kind flare 👆

[stiff elk]

Fixed 🙂

[pseudo whale]

@kind flare Good Morning! Bojan, can you please deposit and vote for my Proposal 672?

[kind flare]

done

[smoky marten]

@upper orchid - I get exactly the same error as you when I try to delegate my KINJs using my Ledger account.

[kind flare]

Just use Ledger directly without Metamask. Logout in the top right corner and connect via Ledger directly.

[smoky marten]

@kind flare Worked perfectly! Thanks!

[pseudo whale]

@kind flare Thanks!

@dim pendant Hey, could you now please vote for 672? Thanks!

[tiny marlin]

@kind flare I also need help with #671 :D. Would really appreciate helping it get through

[kind flare]

sure, done

[tiny marlin]

@kind flare thanks, appreciate it!

[primal terrace]

Yes, transfer everything to the Injective Chain, they basically have no use being on Kovan

[crystal wren]

Do I need Eth to pay for staking ?

[primal terrace]

Yes, you can only stake with ERC20 at the moment.

[crystal wren]

Okay thanks

[tiny marlin]

@dim pendant can you please vote yes to #671 proposal? I need one more vote 😄

[crystal wren]

Do I swop my inj for erc20 & then stake those ? Sorry for all the questions

[primal terrace]

Yes, you'd need to have them as ERC20 on MetaMask or Ledger to stake . No problem! Do you have them on an exchange or in a wallet but as BEP2 or BEP20?

[crystal wren]

I have them on an exchange right now

[primal terrace]

Okay then, just choose to withdraw as ERC20, send them to your ETH address and let us know if you need any help. By the way, see here on how to add the INJ token on MetaMask if you haven't done it already: #🤓｜explain-like-im-5 message

[crystal wren]

Thanks very much

[tall plover]

Hi All, Just joined the community ... Can you please le me undertstand APY of direct Staking vs INJ/BNB pool on Binance? Different APY and Risks?

[primal terrace]

Hey! Yes, the base APY is 15% and you can go up to 29% with certain boosts (tasks). The INJ/BNB pool is an LP pool so there are certain risks, look into impermanent loss

[dapper minnow]

Hi there, Ive just made a spot proposal for DOT/KYL, how do i get that to pass?

[drowsy hull]

Epic tasks launch yet?

[sharp cedar]

Hi all, I just transfer my KINJ (Kovan net) to INJ. I did all along with my ledger connected to metamask, but now, once I want to stake my INJ to a validators I get an error message "sig not supported by this device".

Can you please help me on this?

[tall plover]

nope

[spare roost]

hi pre-staking is pending and no information

has somepeople the same question?

[sharp cedar]

Ok, nm, I managed to connect with my ledger eventually (had to have my ledger live open + reconnect to Ethereum mainnent, not staying on Kovac - was not obvious, might be added to the step by step on staking).

[primal terrace]

Hey, replied here: #🤓｜explain-like-im-5 message

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🚀・dev-support message

[spare roost]

@primal terrace

can't find the tx

[primal terrace]

Could you DM me your wallet address?

[tiny marlin]

Idk if you guys are aware of the page sorting issue on proposals, but the second page appears first and the page that should appear first it's the second one.

[primal terrace]

Hey, the proposals are sorted per page and when the maximum number of proposals is reached (per page) then they are sorted, then next page. We'll change that on Mainnet 🙂

[tiny marlin]

@primal terrace yeah I get that but the page's sorting is messed up. The website's sorting the pages the other way

[primal terrace]

It is a bit confusing but we'll change the sorting on Mainnet.

[sterile finch]

Hi if I pull my injective out of pre-staking do I lose the rewards I've accrued?

I wish to move my inj to the ramp vaults

[primal terrace]

You can only withdraw the amount you pre-staked. In order to receive rewards you would have to wait for this phase to end (before Mainnet). Also the rewards you've accrued from validators won't be redeemable, they are only test tokens. You can see from the calculator how many INJs you'll receive.

[sterile finch]

how long is this phase expected to last?

[primal terrace]

The phase will finish before Mainnet which is in Q2 🙂

[smoky marten]

Quick question, how long does it take between when I "Claim Rewards" 'til they show up in my INJ balance?

[primal terrace]

They should show in the balance instantly.

[smoky marten]

Ah, my bad, they show up on the injective chain which makes perfect sense. Sorry 🙂

[primal terrace]

No worries 🙂

[main surge]

Hey all, I staked all of my INJ and it's staking on Injective chain. Now I see I have an INJ balance on Kovan Testnet. Is this Injective available to me to withdraw or is this like "play money"

bascially what I'm asking is if I have double the INJ tokens than I thought I had

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #💬・general message

[iron pewter]

I believe we are to migrate them over to INJ from Kovan now. if im not mistaken.

[main surge]

also did my stake amount get slashed? I have INJ with helios.staking and my delegation amount is lower than my pre-staked amount

[primal terrace]

Yes, you should transfer them over to the Injective Chain, they have no use being on Kovan.

[iron pewter]

word

[primal terrace]

If your delegated amount is lower than what you started then yes, the only reason for that would be slashing but that doesn't affect you for this phase. See here: #🤓｜explain-like-im-5 message

[main surge]

I see. So best not to stake with helios.staking when the mainnet finally arrives

[primal terrace]

Well, that's up to you, most of our validators got slashed more than once in this phase especially before the network upgrade on the 20th of April. The team made certain upgrades and the uptime has been greatly improved since then in general

[main surge]

i see so it's not just specific to helios staking

[primal terrace]

Yes, validators even got slashed during the upgrades conducted by our team so it's not specific. That being said, some may have a better uptime than others, this phase was designed to teach community and validators alike 🙂

[main surge]

i see. when I go to the validator page I only see the commission they take. Will I be able to see their uptime in the future?

[primal terrace]

The team is working on a panel that will show performance statistics upon Mainnet.

[main surge]

thanks!

[clear field]

Hi @primal terrace, I did this already and created a new Denom but after confirmation, i cant seem to find it in the drop down menu

[primal terrace]

Hey, what's the denom you created?

[clear field]

COIN for coinbase

[primal terrace]

Did you just mint it?

[clear field]

okay it appeared now! HAHA

[primal terrace]

Great! Yeah it might take a few minutes 🙂

[clear field]

I wanted to pair it with BTC, but seems like its only WBTC?

same thing?

[primal terrace]

Yeah wBTC is basically wrapped Bitcoin and it's really the only way you could realistically trade it as it's minted on Ethereum.

Wrapped assets are tokenized versions of the underlying asset, i.e. wBTC would allow you to bring your BTC over to ETH.

[clear field]

Copy! thanks for the assist!

[primal terrace]

No worries

[clear field]

One last hurdle..

[primal terrace]

Yes, so basically in order to propose a market you must have INJ in your Injective Chain balance so you'd have to unbond some of your tokens and use them to propose a market

Or you could claim rewards if they are > 1 INJ

[clear field]

Ahh you beat me to it. Yeah. Okay will have to wait bec I redelegated and unbond..

[iron pewter]

Can someone explain why the ROOK/INJ pair in governance isnt on the lists any longer?

[primal terrace]

You had proposed that pair?

[iron pewter]

I added deposit to it

There was two INJ i added two INJ as well.

[primal terrace]

Do you remember when the market was proposed? Did you keep the proposal ID?

[iron pewter]

I added to it like an hour ago came back and poof gone

everything else is there still.

did it time out?

I didnt get a chance to get the proposal ID i didnt think it would just be gone.

[primal terrace]

Okay, could you please send me your cosmos address in a DM from the wallet page? I'll ask our devs to look into it

[iron pewter]

yes

[balmy nest]

I participated equinox-staking, try to unbond the staking, how to get my assets return to ethereum main net wallet?

[marble turret]

Is there any info on each validator’s performance, ie uptime and slashing history? Thx

How do you choose a good validator?

[balmy nest]

Huobipool, it shows needs 24 Hr, that means I can't get it back until 24 hr later?

[trim pond]

Community & Team votes for WBTC/INJ needed. Thanks!

[balmy nest]

not quite understand, does that mean I need to wait 24 hrs?

[trim pond]

Unbonding takes 24 hrs

[balmy nest]

OK, and what else step I need to take then

[trim pond]

On the wallet, you should see " calculate rewards". The steps are there. I'm not a team member btw.

[balmy nest]

thanks a lot, should wait and see by tomorrow

[trim pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uisu3_NNj24

[trim pond]

Np

[primal terrace]

Hey, have a look here: #🧬︲helix-chat message you don't need to unbond because the tokens are actually in the deposit manager but if you do withdraw you won't receive any rewards.

[clear field]

someone care to vote my proposal? 🙂

[primal terrace]

Deposited and voted! Make sure to find another team member to vote for it because you'd need two to reach quorum 🙂

[clear field]

Hi @thick wagon can you vote please? :)))

[clear field]

Thanks @primal terrace!!

[primal terrace]

You can ask Venkatesh and Bojan and they'll help you out if they are not busy. No problem!

[clear field]

@dim pendant @kind flare Hello asking for a vote please? 🙂

[dim pendant]

done

[clear field]

Cheers!!

[tall plover]

Hi ! General question, when we go to mainnet, what happens to our prestaked INJ tokens? They are sent back to the etherium adress from where we deposited ?

[primal terrace]

Hey! You would have to withdraw your pre-staked tokens from the deposit manager back to your Ethereum wallet and then transfer your tokens through our bridge to get the native tokens on the Injective Chain. The rewards will be sent automatically to your wallet.

[tall plover]

Thanks !

[grave hemlock]

my delegated amount doesn't match my pre-stake amount, is the delegated amount the real total amount?

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🚀・dev-support message
here: #🚀・dev-support message and here: #🚀・dev-support message

[trim pond]

Hi Achilleas, I created a new ticker. INJ/XMR. Please accept my proposal.

[young forge]

Hi guys,
I was chatting on the Telegram group and the Admin told me I could get some help here.
I've got a technical issue with my tokens.
I have transferred my INJ tokens to the INJ chain using MM connected to a Trezor.
Now when I want to delegate my tokens or transfer them back to the Kovan chain I receive the following error message after signing the transaction. "Error: Not supported on this device"

It seems like my tokens are stuck on the INJ chain and I can't move them at all

Can someone help with that issue?

[trim pond]

This is what I was told by the team. "Unfortunately Trezor is not supported yet, the team released a fix on signing EIP712 messages natively but the Trezor team has to go through our solution, approve it and release a firmware fix. They let everyone know when that happens through our official channels. See here for more details: https://medium.com/injective-labs/injectives-novel-trezor-integration-adding-eip-712-support-for-all-ethereum-applications-3a6ef40f6923#:~:text=Injective Protocol is the first,derivative market of their choosing. You need a leader x. I had the same issue and bought a ledger x to stake.

[young forge]

I'll read that, thx

Will update my firewarm and see whether it helps

[primal terrace]

Hey, voted. Make sure to find a team member to vote for it as well, look for Bojan or Venkatesh later on 🙂

[primal terrace]

Hey, Trezor is not supported yet. We are waiting for the Trezor team to go through our solution and release a firmware fix, as soon as they do that we will let everyone know through our official channels

[nocturne mist]

Hi there, I'm not withdrawing from INJ staking. Just need some clarifications. If I want to withdraw from staking and move my INJ coins back to Eth mainnet.

Do I have to Unbond --> wait 24 hours --> move all INJ from Injective Chain to Kovan network --> and than make a withdraw from the Stake page.
or
Just goto the Stake page and make a withdraw from there.

[primal terrace]

The ERC20 INJ tokens are in the deposit manager in Ethereum so you'd only have to go to the Stake page and withdraw from there. The Kovan Injective and the Injective chain balance are just test tokens. See also here: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[nocturne mist]

Ah.. got it. Thank you as always my good man!!

[balmy nest]

same question with Joj, I have my INJ on kovan net, I can see it, but still not quite understnad how to withdraw them from kovan net to ethereum mainnet.

[primal terrace]

You're not withdrawing the tokens on Kovan or the Injective Chain, your tokens are in the deposit manager in Ethereum. We minted KINJ for you to interact with our chain safely, they are test tokens, you can even have them delegated and still withdraw doesn't really matter.

[balmy nest]

need to change to ethereum main net first, then to withdraw, now the withdraw is pending a little big longer, don't know why, and it's a little bit complicated.

[primal terrace]

You'd just have to click withdraw on the stake page and then wait for the transaction to be completed

[balmy nest]

Yeah I know, clicked withdraw, still waitting the pending circle.

[primal terrace]

Okay great, depends on Ethereum but you can look for your transaction in etherscan

[balmy nest]

🙏

[clear field]

@primal terrace , hey i dont see this anymore on voting stage. Is it approved?

ohh I see it now. :))

[primal terrace]

Yes your proposal passed! 🙂

[clear field]

Any news on the Special Epic tasks?

[primal terrace]

We haven't released them yet, when we do we'll inform everyone from the official channels

[clear field]

Cool! Thanks for the assist!

[timber bison]

Hi,

I have a question about staking via ledger ive read the equinox staking guide, am i right in thinking to stake via ledger i just need to connect my ledger to my metamask and follow the same steps so my INJ remains in my ledger during the entire process?

[primal terrace]

Hey. Connect via Ledger directly not with MetaMask and follow the steps, yes.

The INJ won't remain in your wallet, you'll basically send them to our deposit manager when you pre-stake.

[timber bison]

Ah okay and once the 7 day period has elapsed the INJ will be transferred back to my Ledger?

[primal terrace]

To be eligible for rewards you have to keep your tokens pre-staked until the phase ends which will be before Mainnet, anytime between now and June. See also here: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[timber bison]

Okay thanks for the assist, will do some more reading!

[primal terrace]

No problem. Sure, let me know if you have any more questions

[primal terrace]

Hey, the team is working on a dashboard that will display validator status as well as performance statistics so that's only temporary for this phase 🙂

Could you elaborate? What do you mean "convert"?

When the phase ends, you'll withdraw your pre-staked INJ back to your Ethereum wallet and then you will have to transfer them through our bridge to "swap" the ERC20 tokens to the native INJ tokens. This "swap" is not automatic, so basically you can keep your INJ in your ledger and then transfer from both ledgers your tokens over the bridge or transfer your INJ from the second ledger to the ETH address you're staking from now so that you bridge over only once.

No problem 🙂

[lethal flax]

Any articles on how to transfer INJ back to mainnet?

And if I pull it I miss out on rewards from staking testnet right?

[primal terrace]

Yes. Have a look here and let me know if you need any help: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[daring apex]

the APY on our prestake is compounded?

[primal terrace]

The rewards will be given at the end of the phase, so nope

[lethal flax]

Do I need to un-delegate/unbond prior to withdrawing on the testnet or can I just go nuclear and hit withdraw?

[primal terrace]

No need to unbond as you're basically withdrawing from the deposit manager. Keep in mind that if you do withdraw you won't receive any rewards at the end of the phase.

[lethal flax]

Would love some approximation on those rewards so I could determine the opportunity cost of holding in a sinking market

[primal terrace]

You can see from the calculator how many INJs you'll approximately receive 🙂

[lethal flax]

I thought that wasn't a real count?

[primal terrace]

That's the formula we'll use for the rewards

[lethal flax]

all of the Claimed rewards are fake tho correct?

[primal terrace]

The accrued rewards from validators yes but the calculator does not reflect validator rewards. The calculator reflects the rewards you'll approximately receive in the end.

[wary oxide]

Hey does this new ramp staking just mean you deposit inj on pancake swap and they give you "flip tokens" that you transfer to ramp to earn rewards? Is it risky or anything? I don't understand half the things the guide says

[primal terrace]

Hey, You can deposit BNB-INJ LP assets (by providing liquidity with INJ and the equivalent amount in BNB) and then start earning 129% APY in CAKE. RAMP allows you to collateralize these LP assets and mint rUSD which can be swapped with fiat-backed stablecoins like USDT. Consider this a loan you take from the LP tokens which you will have to pay back when you choose to withdraw. Keep in mind that there are certain risks with LP and Yield Farming such as impermanent loss

[nova token]

When I try to claim my rewards or unbond, I receive this message: "Metamask Signature Error: Not supported on this device."
I'm using a Ledger Nano S connected via Metamask on my laptop. Any suggestions?

It may be because I don't have INJ for the fees, but I'm not sure

[nova token]

UPDATE: I connected my Ledger to a different device that doesn't have MetaMask and it worked.

[primal terrace]

Hey, yes you have to connect with Ledger directly and not with MetaMask 🙂

[nova token]

Thank you

[next trail]

Hi, I transferred my inj tokens from kovan to inj chain 30 min ago for staking but balance still looks empty. Any help ?

[rotund rock]

Interesting. I am actually experiencing the same issue.

I am a newbie and this transaction/staking was my second time. I followed the instruction: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/equinox-staking-walkthrough/ but noticed it didn't ask #4. "Approve Transfer of your KINJ (Kovan INJ) Tokens". Is that normal?

SO i proceeded to step #5. Transfer...and token is missing.

[primal terrace]

Hey, if you transferred from Kovan to the Injective Chain it might take up to 1-2h. If they don't arrive by then let me know and I'll reach out to our developers @next trail @rotund rock

[next trail]

ok thank you

[rotund rock]

Hi, unfortunately I still don't see my INJ tokens in my wallet

[primal terrace]

Hey, yeah there seems to be a delay I contacted our dev 20m ago. I'll let you know when it's resolved 🙂

[primal terrace]

All sorted @rotund rock @next trail :)

[rotund rock]

confirmed! thank you. 😆

[next trail]

resolved thanks 🙂

[inland ore]

Hey is anyone having issues when trying to log on with their Ledger? My wallet address never appears even when I click 'get more addresses'. Tried about a dozen time

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🚀・dev-support message

[inland ore]

thanks!

So no fix? Already tried a bunch of times, not great

[primal terrace]

There's no fix, nope. This is a ledger live/legacy issue and not on our side. Could you try again a few more times?

[inland ore]

I don't have a choice really. My tokens are locked up.

Thanks

[primal terrace]

Let me know if it works

[inland ore]

Will do

Is it worth clicking get more addresses each time or is the correct address eventually going to appear would right away when I connect?

Finally appeared. Not worse the hassle each time. How do I unstake?

Think I got it

[primal terrace]

See here: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[smoky marten]

The way I sorted this was to close the tab hosting the Injective site, clearing the cookies and restarting the browser. Works every time now.

[junior flame]

I’ve been participating in the Equinox staking via Korvan now for a couple months but how do I see the actual rewards that are coming? For how long will the staking be on the testnet?

[stone patrol]

Hi, have the special epic tasks been annoucned yet?

[wanton anchor]

How do u get my money out from movan

Kovan

I cant withdraw my kovan after i trasnfer from inj to kovan

How do i get my kovan back to eth mainnet

[tall plover]

if u withdraw before testnet staking is done u forfeit ur rewards

[tall plover]

mainnet set to launch in q2.. before then testnet will end. u have to manually calculate ur rewards

[empty trail]

If we re-steak the amount we mined with steak after harvesting, do we treat it as the amount of steak?

[open gate]

Hey all, Im trying to move my bonded INJ to the Injective Chain however i always get an error saying "Forbidden Key Path".

Im using my Trezor model t through metamask and through some reaseach i believe the trezor is the issue? Anyone know a workaround?

[primal terrace]

Hey, you can use the calculator in the Wallet page to see the rewards you'll approximately receive. The phase will last until Mainnet which is in Q2

[primal terrace]

See here: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[primal terrace]

We haven't announced them yet 🙂

[primal terrace]

The interest is not compounding, you don't need to re-delegate rewards. The rewards from validators are just test tokens, you can see from the calculator the rewards you'll approximately receive at the end of the phase.

[primal terrace]

Hey, unfortunately Trezor is not supported yet. We've released a novel solution on signing EIP712 for 1 month now but we're still waiting for the Trezor team to go through it and release a firmware fix. As soon as we have an update from them we will inform everyone through our official channels. If you just pre-staked, you have a 7-day lockup period, so you'd have to wait 7 days if you wish to withdraw and pre-stake from MetaMask or Ledger otherwise you could wait and hopefully we'll have an update from Trezor soon.

[open gate]

Ah cheers m8.

good to know im not silly

[primal terrace]

No problem!

[grim crypt]

hi, will i get the proposal reward even though it got rejected?

[primal terrace]

You'll get the 3% boost for the market proposal but not the 5% which is to get the market listed (passed). You can propose a market again and I'll deposit/vote for it as well

[grim crypt]

thanks, also do you guys have a tutorial on how to properly propose in a correct way?

[primal terrace]

Sure, see here: https://medium.com/injective-labs/injective-governance-launch-spot-markets-153de338ac53

[grim crypt]

cheers

[willow mesa]

Hello, is there any news on the community validators. I did fill the form but I have become a validator in a Cosmos based chain, so I would like to update my info. Is there any way to contact about this or should we just wait?

[primal terrace]

Hey, we've finished the validators' onboarding for this phase but we'll provide detailed documentation and necessary requirements on how to run a node upon Mainnet.

[willow mesa]

Ok, thanks!

[kind flare]

Hello everyone, we are upgrading our Injective Chain with new features and optimisations. Please be patient, we will be back soon!

[golden sandal]

Thanks you just answered my question 🙂

[upper lichen]

Exciting.

[drowsy hull]

anyone else having trouble loading the staking web page

[cinder ember]

mainnet ready?

[drowsy hull]

Tried to load https://staking.injective.network/stake/ on two different devices and it isn't working :/

[fair umbra]

Look at the pinned messages. They are doing maintenance

[drowsy hull]

ah I see, thank you

[primal terrace]

Mainnet is in Q2 but we don't have an exact date yet

[main ivy]

If my staking balance keeps going down instead of up, does that mean ive been getting slashed? Im new to this kind of staking

Ive been staking since day one and my balance shows lower then when I started. Doesnt sound right to me. Am I missing something?

[primal terrace]

Hey, yes. See here: #🚀・dev-support message
and here: #🚀・dev-support message 🙂

[main ivy]

So Ive been losing money staking?

[primal terrace]

They are just test tokens, you're not losing your INJ.

[main ivy]

ok cool! Thanks for clearing this up. I was a little worried

[primal terrace]

Yeah no worries.

[safe kiln]

will injective release news on twitter when the special epic tasks are released?

[primal terrace]

We will certainly announce it on telegram and discord but i'm not sure for Twitter. Keep an eye out on tg and discord 🙂

[drowsy hull]

Still updating?

[primal terrace]

Yes

[drowsy hull]

Must be significant!

[vale mason]

Hey, any news when INJ hodlers in MetaMask+ Trezor Will bE able to stake?

[primal terrace]

Nope it's not Mainnet, just features and optimizations 🙂

[primal terrace]

Hey, you can track the progress in this PR: https://github.com/trezor/trezor-firmware/pull/1568 🙂

[vale mason]

Ok, thanks

[marble turret]

Hey everyone, is there an issue with the staking website?

[marble turret]

I got it. They are doin maintenance 👍

[primal terrace]

Hey, yes we are adding features :)

[leaden granite]

Hi, excited about the project. Is there any info or guides about becoming a Validator?

[primal terrace]

Hey, we've finished the validators' on boarding for this phase but we'll provide documentation and necessary requirements on how to run a node upon Mainnet.

[leaden granite]

Ok, thanks for the response. Is there a rough timeframe for Mainnet onboarding?

[primal terrace]

Mainnet is in Q2, anytime between now and end of June. We don't have an exact date yet

[kind flare]

** Staking Dashboard update **

Our staking dashboard is back online. We are going to continue upgrading and improving it asynchronously to make the upgrade as smoother as possible for our stakers. Also, all issues that were reported should be fixed now. Happy staking! 🎉

[fair umbra]

Is the there a required # of INJ needed to be a validator or has that not been Announced yet?

[primal terrace]

We haven't announced the necessary requirements, we'll provide full documentation on the requirements and how to run a node before Mainnet

[fair umbra]

Thank you sir

[shrewd depot]

Any idea minimum INJ required to run a Node... so i can prepare a bit

[primal terrace]

We'll announce requirements before Mainnet, I don't know the exact numbers of tokens 🙂

[shrewd depot]

ok. Thx. but it actually about time to slowly release some info.....😆

[fair umbra]

Don't kill the messanger!

[icy crescent]

yo this guy just tried to scam me in tg

[primal terrace]

There are a lot of scammers using our name be careful! We'll never DM you first

[icy crescent]

what is your tg username?

achilleas?

[primal terrace]

achilleas_k

[icy crescent]

it was you

[primal terrace]

I wasn't, they probably have a different username

[icy crescent]

https://t.me/achilIeas_k

it's this you?

[primal terrace]

Seems to have the same username but it's not me not sure how that's possible. Can you write something in the official tg chat so that I DM you and tell me if you see 2 different DMs with the same username?

[icy crescent]

sure

[kind flare]

The gas issue that was reported by some of our members is resolved now! 🎉

[primal terrace]

That's the fake one, just copied the username in a notepad

[icy crescent]

ok dm in tg then

D

all cleared up!

[primal terrace]

👌

[ember minnow]

If any of the team could vote for my CEL/BOND proposal, I'd be eternally grateful - Achilleas already did so I just need one more! Thanks

[vale mason]

Hey, with the firmware update of the Trezor today, i Will bê able tô stake my INJ that It are in Trezor?

Sorry, o asked that yesterday, but the Trezor team released the firmware update today, so i Wonder If they implented that feature

[primal terrace]

Hey, the PR here: https://github.com/trezor/trezor-firmware/pull/1568 is still open so I don't think they've added the fix to this firmware update.

[vale mason]

Huuuum..very Sad..thanks

Anyway, o would't have ETH tô pay the fees tô stake 🤣

[native wing]

Hi INJ admins. Quick noob question that has probably been asked and answered but once you claim your INJ from staking, they go to the INJ chain. How do I restake those claimed INJ tokens? I thought that's what redelegating was? But when I redelegate, it allows me to stake ALL of my INJ and it makes me think I'm abou to make dangerous mistakes.

[primal terrace]

You can delegate your tokens the same way you delegated your original pre-staking amount, you'd basically go to the validators section, choose a validator and delegate them 🙂

[native wing]

Sorry @primal terrace I'm still a little confused. For ex: I'm staking on UBIK and Helios. After claiming my INJ rewards, they appear on my INJ chain. So lets say I have 20 INJ as rewards. When redelegating, it basically asks me to redelegate ALL my staked INJ from UBIK to Helios or from Helios to Ubik. Doesn't redelegating like this stop rewards from coming in temporarily?

[primal terrace]

Re-delegating will move your bonded tokens to a different validator, what you want to do is delegate coins so you'd do it from the validators section and not re-delegate from the wallet section and nope if you re-delegate you won't stop receiving rewards, only if you unbond.

[native wing]

omg I feel so stupid rn lol I didn't even realize it was supposed to be in the validator section. THANK YOU SO MUCH AS ALWAYS. THE INJ TEAM IS PHENOMENAL

[primal terrace]

Haha no worries! Thank you :)

[chrome wadi]

I am trying to stake coins and think I sent to wrong address

Will@someone help out

[distant mica]

I have tried to stake funds several times today, and I cannot get the transaction to work.

[fair umbra]

Walking through the staking steps - does it matter how much I delegate. 1% or 100% of my prestake amount given this is a testnet?

[stone patrol]

anyone else getting slashed with ubik capital?

[primal terrace]

Hey, I hope you didn't because there'd be nothing we can do. DM me and we'll look into it

[primal terrace]

Do you see the transaction in etherscan? Do you get an error message? What is it?

[primal terrace]

Nope, you can even delegate a small portion of your funds and use the rest in governance, the amount you delegate doesn't make any difference.

[primal terrace]

We had a lot of slashing due to our upgrade but no need to worry since they are just test tokens.

We airdropped 1k INJ as before since everyone got slashed

[olive plinth]

Hi, since the upgrade I lost some inj in my pools. Also the rewards where zeroed. I know, it does not effect my staking rewards, I am just curios.

[primal terrace]

Hey, yes it was due to our chain upgrade but this doesn't affect you 🙂

[primal terrace]

Nope, these are just test tokens you won't keep them

[olive plinth]

Epic task: keep the 1000 inj from kov net : )

[tall plover]

Can someone vote for proposal 741 please?

[primal terrace]

Done 🙂

[tall plover]

👍😘

[amber ingot]

Im very confused about this. I had a significant number of INJ slashed as a result of these upgrades. Are you saying they will be reimbursed, or is my current wallet accurate in terms of my staking yield? These slashes make me wonder how much its even worth staking on this testnet if I'm losing so much due to slashing.

[primal terrace]

Slashing doesn't affect you for this phase, these are just test tokens. The rewards will be given at the end of the phase based on the pre-staking amount, the day you pre-staked and the completed boosts and you will also withdraw your whole pre-staked amount. We just airdropped 1k INJ to allow everyone to make proposals as their INJ were significantly reduced due to slashing. See also here: #🚀・dev-support message
and here: #🚀・dev-support message

[nocturne mist]

Hi there, what's gonna happen once mainnet launch. do we withdraw out inj coins and deposit to a different area or just keep it in the same place?

[primal terrace]

Hey, Equinox Staking will end as soon as reach Phase 3 (canonical release). We'll take a snapshot, and inform the community that they can withdraw their pre-staked coins back to Ethereum. Rewards will be sent automatically to the respective wallets. Then you'll transfer your ERC-20 INJ through our Peggy Bridge to "swap" them for the native INJ tokens and re-stake them if you want to.

[quiet lynx]

Could someone help me get this proposal thru? (#P737 - MANA ) 🙂 https://staking.injective.network/proposals/737

[nocturne mist]

ok. thank you my good man. not sure what this "peggy" bridge swap is but i know you guys are here to assist. so i'm good

[primal terrace]

Sure! Done & voted, make sure to find Bojan or Venkatesh tomorrow to also vote for it as you need 2 votes from team members to reach quorum

[primal terrace]

Of course, we'll provide detailed documentation on the process and we'll be here to assist as always!

[nocturne mist]

thank you sir!!

[upper lichen]

I misunderstood - I assumed Equinox Staking would end with Mainnet Phase 1 (Peggy Bridge)? "Phase One will include the initial protocol governance setup so that our community can help set the initial genesis state parameters such as which markets will be first deployed, validator rewards, exchange fees, etc. By doing this we can help to ensure that our protocol is community governed from day one."

[primal terrace]

Governance in Phases 1/2 will take place through the dashboard you're using now, you'll be able to transfer ERC-20 tokens over to the Injective Chain in Phase 1 and trade with real funds in the Canary Phase (Phase 2). As soon as we go on Mainnet (Canonical Release), Equinox Staking will end and we'll have a new dashboard soon after Mainnet 🙂

[upper lichen]

Oh ok I see. Will we need to transfer them again for Phase 3, (they'll already be on the Injective Chain from Phase 1 so guessing not)?

[primal terrace]

Nope, you'll only need to do it once, as soon as you deposit the INJ in the contract you'll get the native tokens on the Injective Chain

[upper lichen]

Thanks, makes sense.

[quiet lynx]

Thank you!

[fiery arch]

I deposited a whole bunch of INJ to Kovan using MetaMask with Trezor. Now I can't Approve transfer of ERC20 tokens into Injective. I'm unable to sign the transaction with Trezor, what can I do?

[primal terrace]

Hey, unfortunately you can't stake with Trezor yet. We developed a novel solution to sign EIP-712 messages natively with Trezor approximately a month ago but we're still expecting their team to go through our solution and release a firmware fix. See here for the PR: https://github.com/trezor/trezor-firmware/pull/1568

[fiery arch]

Is my INJ lost till then?

[primal terrace]

Nope, there is a 7-day lockup period and then you can choose to withdraw back to your Ethereum wallet or wait for Equinox Staking to finish which will be in the next weeks (in Q2) and hopefully Trezor will have released a firmware fix by then in order to delegate and receive rewards 🙂

[fiery arch]

Thanks, I'll wait anxiously

[fair umbra]

Is there any benefit to adding to pre-stake amount? (say I'm purchasing 50 INJ a week) will it lead to an overall increase in rewards because my pre-stake amount is higher over time (before the last snapshot of the testnet is taken)

[primal terrace]

You can add more INJ but the new INJ tokens you deposit will get the APY from the day you pre-stake them and not from the beginning (your first deposit)

[fair umbra]

understood. So they lose out on the various boosts or do you just have to do the boosts again?

Thank you for being so responsive Achilleas! you rock dude.

[primal terrace]

You only have to do the boosts once, they are applied to all your deposits. Thank you 🙂

[stone patrol]

I know it's just test tokens, Just curious as to what happened. Don't want to delegate on main net with a validator who gets slashed often

Question guys, what purpose does the governance pairs serve?

[dim pendant]

@stone patrol During the testnet upgrade, we halt the chain at a certain height h1. Then we upgrade the binaries with new features and test internally using only foundation nodes to reduce the friction. So other validators got slashed for downtime.

This is just to test the new features internally and fix any bugs immediately and move fast. This won't be the case on mainnet.

[chrome wadi]

Hey can someone help me

?

[chrome wadi]

?????

[primal terrace]

Hey, sure. What do u need?

[barren pond]

Morning, I purchased additional INJ on Gemini exchange. I am already staking from a month ago. Can I transfer to my existing Injective dashboard?

[primal terrace]

Hey, sure. You can add more INJ but the new INJ tokens you deposit will get the APY from the day you pre-stake them and not from the beginning (your first deposit)

[barren pond]

Thank you. That's fine. So I just use the address and send there. Any additional steps? Thank you.

[primal terrace]

No problem! You'd follow the steps from the beginning, send your INJ to your Ethereum address, then pre-stake them from the stake page and then move the minted tokens from Kovan Testnet to the Injective Chain

[barren pond]

👍

[tough perch]

Hi can I get some help pushing my proposal through voting? Thanks all ❤️ https://staking.injective.network/proposals/748

[primal terrace]

Hey, just voted. Look for Venkatesh or Bojan to also vote for it, you need 1 more vote from the team

[tough perch]

Got it, thanks again 🙂

[dim pendant]

Voted

[fair umbra]

Is the deposit period before voting a fixed period of time?

Better asked - what's the proper steps from a proposal going from deposit to voting.

[primal terrace]

Yes, this will change upon Mainnet. We've put 24h and 48h for voting and deposit respectively but these are only parameters, so the periods will be longer on Mainnet (around 20 days) and they are subject to change upon governance (if the community votes to change the periods of deposit and voting)

[peak spire]

Lost a lot of rewards on staking with Equinox and Helix top 2 validators ? Anyone else experienced this?

[primal terrace]

Hey, that was due to slashing. See here: #🚀・dev-support message
and here: #🚀・dev-support message

[fair umbra]

I'm sure you've answered that a hundred times Achilleas. Thank you. Are there any docs that call this out or just word of mouth during the testnet (until official docs are out). Just trying to find a reading source to save you some time. The help is always appreciated.

[primal terrace]

No problem! Yes, there's an article on our blog here: https://medium.com/injective-labs/injective-governance-proposal-procedure-5e6591a2012e let me know if you have any questions 🙂

[peak spire]

Relieved to know , definitely will be selective on mainnet!

[primal terrace]

Yes, have a look to this thread: #🚀・dev-support message regarding metrics on choosing validators and resources to read more about our validators 🙂

[fair umbra]

Cool my avax Dai pair moved to voting after hitting the min deposit

[primal terrace]

Voted 🙂

[fair umbra]

Is there a spot to view current special epic tasks?

Thank you for voting!

[primal terrace]

We haven't released epic tasks yet, will do soon and inform the community through our official channels

No problem!

[fiery fractal]

Hi guys, what are the prerequisites to become a validator for the Injective network? Have you prepared any documentation on this subject or do you have any information to give me? Thanks

[primal terrace]

Hey, we've finished the validators' onboarding for this phase but you can run a node upon Mainnet. Documentation and necessary requirements on how to run a node will be provided before Mainnet 🙂

[fiery fractal]

Perfect thanks for your answer 🙂

[dark turret]

hey!

I don't understand, how is the amount I staked decreasing ?

I staked 497 INJ and now it shows 492 ?

[primal terrace]

Hey Nick, see here: #🚀・dev-support message

[tropic tulip]

@dim pendant Could the team vote on proposal 747 - Achilleas/INJ
to reach quorum, is my third attempt of getting a proposal passed. 🙂

@kind flare proposal 747 🙂

[fiery arch]

I just bought a ledger and restored with my seed phrase. Sweet! Now I just need to choose a validator. Should I put all my eggs in one basket?

[primal terrace]

See here: #🚀・dev-support message 🙂

[fiery arch]

Some validators charge 100% commission? That means they take all of your rewards

[fiery arch]

Exact answer I was looking for

So it doesn't matter for Equinox but once we move to mainet then I should choose a few validators.

[primal terrace]

Yes 🙂

[primal terrace]

That's when you tried to delegate? Have you logged in with Ledger directly?

[fiery arch]

Yes I am logged in with ledger directly

Logging out and in again...

[primal terrace]

Yes, try that as well make sure you login with Ledger and not MetaMask and also try to un-plug the USB and plug it again on the PC.

[fiery arch]

@primal terrace you are the man!!!

[primal terrace]

What was it?

USB?

[fiery arch]

Yeah unplug and plugged back in. DIdn't work after I logged out and logged back in. Tried twice, unplugged it and it worked.

[primal terrace]

Nice..you can move to the governance tasks, see here: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/injective-governance-launch-spot-markets/ and let me know if you need any help

[fiery arch]

As for running a validator, all we can do is add our name to the interest list?

[primal terrace]

See here: #🚀・dev-support message

[fiery arch]

Copy that. I'll wait for instructions before Mainnet.

[chrome wadi]

Anyone there

[primal terrace]

Hey

[chrome wadi]

Listen

Dm me

[primal terrace]

DM me, we never DM users first because there are a lot of people impersonating us

[wary oxide]

Is anyone else getting slashed on like every validator? Seems like no matter who I delegate to I lose inj

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🚀・dev-support message

[wary oxide]

Thank you!

[chrome wadi]

Hey I need a higher up to guide me through process

[primal terrace]

Guide you through the process of pre-staking in Equinox Staking or the process of staking and receiving rewards in the community hub?

[wide mountain]

Please someone deposit 1000 to my proposal. Help is needed community https://staking.injective.network/proposals/764

[primal terrace]

Deposited and voted 🙂

[wide mountain]

Oh, Thank you that was quick. How many votes should I get it accepted?

[primal terrace]

No problem. You need one more vote from a team member to reach quorum, look for Bojan or Venkatesh and they might be able to help if they are not busy

[wide mountain]

@kind flare, @dim pendant I would really appreciate if you voted for my proposal, please #P764

[kind flare]

done

[wide mountain]

@dim pendant 🙏 #P764

[primal terrace]

You've already reached quorum, your proposal will pass no worries 🙂

[wide mountain]

Really, that's a great news. That's a +5% for staking, right?

[primal terrace]

Yes

[wide mountain]

😎 Cool

@primal terrace When we will be able to stake our inj on mainnet?

[primal terrace]

You'll be able to stake in Phase 3, the canonical release. See here for more details on the phases: #📰・announcements message

[wide mountain]

Did Phase one already launched?

[primal terrace]

We haven't released the Peggy bridge yet, when we do we'll release an article also explaining the process of transferring with detailed steps

[drowsy hull]

At what phase will the current testnet staking end?

[primal terrace]

Equinox Staking will continue until the canonical release

[drowsy hull]

Awesome thank you!

[wispy tusk]

Hi Admins

Any chances you guys could help me out getting my vote passed this is my 4th try 🤦🏻‍♂️

#P767 - BNB / MATIC

Any help would be greatly appreciated @primal terrace @kind flare

[primal terrace]

Voted 🙂

[wispy tusk]

Thank you very much 🙏🏻

Hi @dim pendant any chance you can help me out

#P767- BNB / MATIC

would be really grateful 🙏🏻🤟🏻

[fair umbra]

My first proposal got rekt (Thank god this is a testnet :)). Can you help me get the appropriate amount of deposit and an initial vote? I will watch it closer this time.

https://staking.injective.network/proposals/770

[primal terrace]

Deposited and voted

[wispy tusk]

I voted for you as well good luck 🙏🏻

[fair umbra]

Thank you! Just voted for yours too!

[fair umbra]

TY

[wispy tusk]

I appreciate it 🙏🏻

[fair umbra]

@kind flare and @dim pendant - would love your votes on my proposal #770 AVAX/DAI https://staking.injective.network/proposals/770

[dim pendant]

voted for all active proposals

[wispy tusk]

You are gentlemen thank you sir

[brazen mauve]

I noticed that I have significantly more kovan than I initially put into the INJ network

what happens if I try to stake all the KINJ that was given to me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uisu3_NNj24

namely, i notice that in this example we have 10 INJ delegated but 60 KINJ

[primal terrace]

We transferred 1000 INJ to all eligible wallets to ease the process of governance because stakers lost coins due to slashing. You can delegate them or use them to propose a market.

[wicked totem]

what does commision mean when delegating?

nvr mind i figured it out thx

[obtuse reef]

@primal terrace hey so does this mean that all the delegated staking rewards i get on the current injective chain testnet are useless because i earn only the 15% promised from prestaking?

why bother delgating then?

is there going to be a way to bring over all the tokens frrom the test net tto tthe mainnet?

[primal terrace]

See here: #🤓｜explain-like-im-5 message 🙂

[primal terrace]

You have to be delegated to keep earning the 15% APY, the amount you delegate doesn't make any difference you could even delegate a small portion of your tokens. See also here: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[gusty saffron]

Hi all, can someone please help me to inform wether it is possible to transfer INJ tokens from the Injective chain back to ETH mainnet?

[primal terrace]

Hey, see here: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[gusty saffron]

Awesome man thank you so much for your lightning fast help 😀

Do you know which date mainnet will go fully live?

[primal terrace]

No problem. Mainnet is in Q2 🙂

[gusty saffron]

So before the end of june? And will this mean that the full platform is going live for trading derrivatives?

[primal terrace]

Yes, you'll be able to trade in Phase 2 as well but in a limited capacity. See here for more details on our phases: #📰・announcements message

[gusty saffron]

Yeah I already read that one! Thank you 🙏

That's just insane, I'm super curious and excited about how this is going to play out

[primal terrace]

Voted, yes that would be the transaction fee 🙂

[ember minnow]

Hey, could any of the team vote through my INJ/MATIC pair #p778. Thank you bigly

[primal terrace]

Done 🙂

[ember minnow]

My hero!

[brazen tangle]

Hey Bojan & Venkatesh, I would really appreciate it if you could help with getting my proposal passed? #P773 - YFI/GBP

[thorny crag]

@kind flare , @dim pendant, I have just made a proposal for SOL/INJ spot trading pair, Achilleas already voted for it, would you also give a hand? That would be fantastic! Proposal Id: 777. Thanks a lot in advance!

[upper lichen]

I just voted

[cyan crane]

hi, myself and 2 of my good friends are all missing coins in our INJ staking wallet. i'm sure i'm not the first person to report this????

[primal terrace]

Hey, that was due to slashing. See here: #🚀・dev-support message here: #🚀・dev-support message and here: #🚀・dev-support message

[cyan crane]

wow so essentially you can possibly lose coins from staking????

[primal terrace]

Yes. Upon Mainnet, the rewards from validators will be your sole rewards so choosing your validator(s) is a very important decision and would be best to delegate to more than one upon Mainnet as to ensure that you'll keep earning rewards if one of your validators is slashed and possibly goes into the Unbonding State. You should account for commission fees, as well as the reputation of each validator (we have onboarded some of the well-known validators in the space). You can read information about all our validators here: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/learn/ and let me know if you have any more questions 🙂

[cyan crane]

wow i love INJ but this is an AWFUL staking system. thanks for the info

[primal terrace]

No problem. Slashing is evident in every blockchain that follows the PoS consensus and it's necessary to discourage validator misbehaviour which consequently improves the security of the chain

[kind flare]

done

[thorny crag]

Thanks mate! 🙏

[thorny crag]

Thanks a lot 🙏

[ember minnow]

@kind flare @dim pendant hey guys could you possibly vote for my trading pair INJ/MATIC #p778 - it would be hugely appreciated. Thanks :)

[kind flare]

done

[ember minnow]

Thank you brother - looking forward to phase 2!

[honest kraken]

https://staking.injective.network/ isn't working for me (page isn't responding) in multiple browsers. All else is OK. Is it just me or is it down?

[primal terrace]

Hey, we're adding some new features. Should be back online soon 🙂

[wary oxide]

Can I still stake more inj?

[primal terrace]

You can add more INJ but the new INJ tokens you deposit will get the APY from the day you pre-stake them and not from the beginning (your first deposit)

[gusty saffron]

What time will the staking portal be live again?

[primal terrace]

Soon 🙂

[gusty saffron]

Hahaha okay thank you 😀

[zenith shard]

Hey, we're adding some new features. Should be back online soon 🙂
@primal terrace special tasks coming? 👀

[primal terrace]

We have a lot of things coming, the road to the canonical release will be very interesting 🙂

[zenith shard]

Looking forward to it! I’m following it so closely 😁

[gusty saffron]

Hi guys is it correct that the staking protocol is still offline?

It's kind of sad because the timing is exactly when I need a portion of my funds..

[proud token]

Yes it is currently undergoing upgrades

Apologies for the inconvenience, they will have it back up as soon as possible

[proud token]

Take a look at this regarding removing funds from the staking program #🧬︲helix-chat message

It is technically possible to still interact with the contracts as they are on the blockchain and not on the website, though it is less user friendly

[gusty saffron]

Hmmm okay I will take a look, thank you for your help again 🙏