unofficial-setup-help

[pale sentinel]

Any recommended mods for ASA? I used to play with something called Structures Plus but I couldn't see it.

Is that still something that exists for ASA?

[native wave]

QoL+ is the best one I've found for ASA

[unborn belfry]

I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, but do I put -PrideColors in Gameusersittings.ini or game.ini?

[native wave]

in your startup command line

[distant hearth]

neither its a server start up command, if your on nitrado, you have wait for them give you a button

[pale sentinel]

What kind of changes would that flag make

I remember having my dinosaur colors go haywire on valentines

[native wave]

special set of dino colors for the event

[pale sentinel]

I see.

If I'm running pterodactyl panel does it go in flags or params section

[native wave]

flags

[pale sentinel]

gotta restart lol

[native wave]

yup

[pale sentinel]

It's pulling a big download at the moment for some reason so I'm just watching it do that

[unborn belfry]

Yea im on Nitrado. Cant find the command line

[distant hearth]

becuase you dont have one, like i said, got wait for them to add a checkbox, if they do

[unborn belfry]

Do I need to ask for it?

[pale sentinel]

They need to implement it

[distant hearth]

you can try in there discord or forum, see if there going to put it in

[pale sentinel]

Is there still contention between Nitrado and everyone else out of curiosity

when asa came out it was rough in here, luckily I can run it on my linux server now lol

[distant hearth]

yea , they even make us press a seperate button in server search menu to get to see self host servers

[pale sentinel]

That explains why it took me a while to find my server

I had to type Ark.UseServerList 0

i dont even know what that does but it made my server show up. 😛

[native wave]

Got the rhynio's to 40....let's see if I can do even better

[distant hearth]

shows a simplified list iirc, but yea just tick the player server button an it shud show when searched

[distant hearth]

getting there then, id admire your patience

[native wave]

very much want to make my center server my home server until we get gen 2 or fjordur

gen 2 will depend on how it performs. on ase it was a beast to run. hoping it will improve

[pale sentinel]

Is there a way to check rates ingame? Because it doesnt feel boosted

[bleak horizon]

anyone know if you can change difficulty of boss fights? lots of players on my server struggling with difficulty ?

[native wave]

rasie the max level of dinos on your server

[distant hearth]

or make them do more damge, or make the bosses do less damage or ... theres aload ways to do it

[native wave]

doesn't affect the boss fights but makes your dinos stronger and makes the fights easier

[native wave]

yup

[distant hearth]

pickup a few stones, generally can tell from the average

[bleak horizon]

how would i make bosses do less damage? - thanks

[pale sentinel]

I set difficulty to 5.0 as well and force respawned all the dinos in the config

[distant hearth]

a bunch of lines of code in the game.ini
beacon omni app/program is the easiest way , but thats only in paid version .
if not a bit of google work will likely bring up some examples

[pale sentinel]

everything is 1-20 lvl though so far

[bleak horizon]

ok, i have beacon so i can code it if need be, any recs? thanks 🙂

[distant hearth]

if ure getting level 1 dinos it hasnt worked, shud spawn in intervals of 5

[pale sentinel]

i'll try to manually wipe the dinos out than 1 sec

[distant hearth]

go to creature adjustments, change it so u can see the boss creaturs, then adjust how much damage or resistance each boss an its level does

[bleak horizon]

amazing thanks!

[native wave]

progress! Got the rhynios down to 3...and they are spread out like I want

[pale sentinel]

I think I remember needing to add the reset dinos as a flag

cause the config variant didnt work or something in ase lol, is that the case?

It seems to be working, found a lvl 40

[native wave]

I want to get the number around 5 or so

[distant hearth]

nah doesnt need it, but also works, you can do it ingame if ure logged in as admin

[pale sentinel]

Fair enough, alright then.

I had a custom script that as the server got older the difficulty approached 5.0 Starting at 2-3 and taking a custom timeframe to get to max difficulty

so when the daily resets came along it would change difficulty slightly

Guess it wont let me link the github here haha

[native wave]

nope....the basically only allow official wiki links and survivetheark.com links

[pale sentinel]

Honestly probably for the best.

[native wave]

after watching syntac's latest....and looking at the leed spawns....they really should be a lot more rare

on my server in the lake below the floating island...there are 4 regular and 1 alpha....like wtf

ok, got the number to 6 rhynios....feels like a good number to me

final ini entry for it:
ConfigAddNPCSpawnEntriesContainer=(NPCSpawnEntriesContainerClassString="DinoSpawnEntriesSwamp_C",NPCSpawnEntries=((AnEntryName="Rhyniognatha 6",EntryWeight=0.001,NPCsToSpawn=("/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C","/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C""/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C""/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C""/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C""/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C"),NPCsToSpawnPercentageChance=(0.0001,0.0001,0.0001,0.0001,0.0001,0.0001),ManualSpawnPointSpreadRadius=2500.0)),NPCSpawnLimits=((NPCClassString="/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C",MaxPercentageOfDesiredNumToAllow=0.0001)))

that feels messy to me, so I might try to clean it up at some point.

I have a feeling I don't need the additional entries and just cleaning up that part might be enough, we'll see

[fair matrix]

what do yalls batch files look like to make the sever update ? trying to make it easy for my gf when im not around so she doesnt have to fool with steamcmd

[distant hearth]

start C:\SteamCMD\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir "C:\Arkserver1" +login anonymous +app_update 2430930 validate +quit
change file paths to your locations

it sits on by desktop so i just have to double click it

[fair matrix]

exactly what i need thanks

[distant hearth]

its basic but works, people alot smarter than me can have it auto do it once a day etc, im more primitive

[fading thicket]

when hosting a dedicated server how do i give someone else the ability to spawn items in? i tried running the admin command with the password but that didnt doa nything

[distant hearth]

cheat <whatevercheatyouwanttouse>```

[pale sentinel]

Hey when I became GCM it unlocked all my engrams, how do I reset them?

I just wanted to test some stuff before playing lol

[distant hearth]

log out an back in

[pale sentinel]

I did, I left the server and rejoined.

[olive talon]

Respawn or fast travel.

[pale sentinel]

kk

[fair loom]

hey need a hand
im hosting my own server, it runs fine and all but no matter what i cant get multipliers to work, idk if xp or taming is working but ik for sure harvest multiplier isnt, no matter what i do. i've changed all the gameini and that alrdy and just cant get it working

[distant hearth]

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration

harvest mutplier is gameusersetting.ini not game.ini
stop server , edit the correct ini , save it, start server

[fair loom]

ye ye i did that
just forgot what it was called

[native wave]

can't quite produce the same results, so going back to what I posted since it works

[void cliff]

How do we apply the dino Colors? What’s the “command line” they’re referring to?

[distant hearth]

you cant on nitrado

[native wave]

the command line is how a dedicated server is normally startup. On nitrado there is no command line to edit, they just present a button. So they have to add an element to their interface to enable adding the command line option to enable the colors. You have to wait on Nitrado to do this.

[true glacier]

is everyone having trouble connecting to unoffical sever right now?

[native wave]

if it's hosted on nitrado it'll probably be having the same problems as the official servers right now

[distant hearth]

no issues for me, set the search filters at the top to all

[true glacier]

im hosting mine, i see it on the list just me and my friends cant connect to it

[errant fox]

Anyone know how to allow building in the underworld? Says there is no snap points on the island there. I can build on some of the higher areas but not the island at all.

[native wave]

possible the servers that manage the server list are also having issues

[distant hearth]

cant atm, waiting on the devs to bring an update to fix it

[native wave]

you have to wait for a patch. They've already said they will be addressing not being able to build in certain areas

[errant fox]

Thanks W1llz and @native wave for the response and answer.

[distant hearth]

have you ever been able connect to it ?

[marble condor]

Yep we were all kicked and can't rejoin. when we press the join button its just super slow and sends us back to main menu

[true glacier]

yes

i was just on it like 5 mins ago

[distant hearth]

kk was just checking that you had ports forwarded, seems like prob eos site is having issues atm at a guess

[true glacier]

mine too

[true glacier]

yea i figured thanks

[distant hearth]

#announcements bet its effecting unofficial too

[marble condor]

do you also rent from nitrado or you host on your own machine?

[true glacier]

i have it running on my own sever

[ebon venture]

I am hosting my own dedicated server not through nitrado and I still cannot connect to it which seems rather strange.

[marble condor]

Then its not only a Nitrado problem then... hmmm

[bleak ivy]

probably curseforge non-modded unofficials are joinable.

[distant hearth]

all servers go through epic online services for connection, try it direct connect with ip and port id bet you joins

[ebon venture]

yeah that is definitely it. my server gave a bunch of failed to reach or something errors when grabbing mods the first time I started it up.

[snow cliff]

@marble flint wann neue center

[south palm]

@snow cliff can help

[steady kettle]

Yall having issues joining atm? Unofficial?

[true glacier]

yes

[native wave]

damn...probalby shouldn't have gotten out of my server, ah well, I'll watch some fresh ASA youtube content then

[wise kindle]

#announcements

[native wave]

yup definitely acts like curseforge is down

[distant hearth]

if the server is running, curseforge dont matter far as i know, it only contacts curseforge on start up , to check if mods need an update or install

eos, epic online services however, everytime you connect through asa server browser page you go through them, if that down it causes mayhem. but shud be able connect using command

[true glacier]

Should we shut our servers off while we wait for a patch or does it not matter

[native wave]

if you have stuff that could die or expire or some other time sensitive thing...yeah might be best

I wish I could skip mod checking like I could in ASE. if I joined directly from the steam server browser it didn't matter if everything else was down, as long as my server was up, I could connect

[bleak ivy]

how would mods go down if they used steam?

[native wave]

uh....not sure why the automod blocked my last message

"This can't be posted because it contains content blocked by this server. This may also be viewed by server owners."

[real coral]

Server patches typically happen quickly but curseforge is less speedy

[native wave]

yeah don't know why it's blocking that

[bleak ivy]

no idea use less ....

[white holly]

Can you get the pride dinos on undedicated servers on console?

[bleak ivy]

no, it was just a Server patch and consoles can't activate launch options anyway.

[native wave]

the mods wouldn't cause you to be unable to connect. If the server browser went down, you wouldn't be able to though.

essentially what my message said that got blocked....worded differently

[white holly]

Finally someone that doesn't give a troll answer. Thank you.

[bleak ivy]

the .... were highlighted. too close to the other words I guess. use spaces between them and words.

[native wave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the funny thing is, I used the...in the message you replied to

[wise kindle]

…

[native wave]

.....

[bleak ivy]

its probably just word choice. it doesn't like them being seperated by it.

[distant hearth]

i got pissed off last time i was auto modded, so i copied the message an kept deletin bits till i found what it didnt like lmao

it was something stupid that did it

[native wave]

yup.....that word combo I guess

down, you

[cold brook]

Folks having issues connecting suddenly and our center server is giving the below new error message following attempted joins..

ERROR: Missing Package identified: /Game/Mods/TheCenter/TheCenter_WP/_Generated_/TheCenter_WP_MainGrid_L0_X14_Y6_DLF12358ED,/Game/Mods/TheCenter/TheCenter_WP/_Generated_/TheCenter_WP_MainGrid_L0_X14_Y6_DLF12358ED

[native wave]

yeah there's issues with curseforge right now preventing people from joining modded servers

[shut juniper]

yea it tries to verify mod and then fails

[stark thorn]

where do you find these errors, my logs are basic

[cold brook]

It appears in the general shootergame log but I'm self-hosted not Nitrado

[celest halo]

yeah there is, even there webpage loads like its on 1990 dail-up

[grave shale]

hey all, is there a parameter to increase loot quality of only underwater loot crates ?

[native wave]

give all these youngins a feeling for how internet life was like in the beginning

got started on 1200 baud....on a green monochrome screen

[celest halo]

but they missing out on the best part, the sounds from the modem dialing out and doing its handshake

[native wave]

hehe

[humble thicket]

hi, the community crunch say to put "-PrideColors" in the server commandline to get the pride colors on unofficial. please excuse my unexperienced ass but how and where do i find the commandline on a nitrado server?

[cold brook]

you could write (or use a program to write) your own loot tables, otherwise there's just the global modifier

[cold brook]

On Nitrado they usually do a tickbox for things like this, you usually have to wait for it to become available.

[native wave]

you don't, you wait for nitrado to add it to their interface

[humble thicket]

so, how do i get those colors on my unofficial server? 😄

[native wave]

"you wait for nitrado to add it to their interface"

[celest halo]

you yell at your hosting provider to add the option to there dashboard

[true glacier]

unofficial servers seem to be working again

[native wave]

nitrado really could use some people yelling at them for better service

[humble thicket]

alright got it got, thank you and i will yell in a ticket

[grave shale]

is there any guides on how to do that ?

[humble thicket]

beacon is a good software

[cold brook]

Agree with the above, I've been using Beacon for years

[humble thicket]

inform yourself tho, it may be behinde a paywall, some tools are free some are not

[jaunty vortex]

I remember a choice between 1200/75 or 300/300 if you were going to be sending a lot.

[native wave]

we still have the computer I got started on. An old compaq luggable. It's sitting out in our garage on a shelf

[left sable]

Looks to be back up for me on ps5 not sure if I got lucky

[native wave]

yup good to go here too

[midnight crow]

anyone know if oyu can host the center in a cluster whit the island and the scorched eath map on a dedicated host

cant seem to join the center

whitin that setup

[true glacier]

i have all three of them on a cluster

[midnight crow]

on dedicated

im hosting from ovhcloud have them setup on ASAdedicatedmanager

trying to figuree everything out

[true glacier]

oh im not sure about that im using steamcmd

[jaunty vortex]

schedule it with Windows Task Scheduler. Just google for how to get it to run a bat file

[distant hearth]

wudnt it need the server shut down to do the update though ? so schedule a shutdown, then the update, then a restart ?

[jaunty vortex]

yes

not sure how you'd trigger a save world before hand with rcon though

[distant hearth]

no doubt google knows, will look more into it

[viral widget]

Stupid question please only flame me a little.
Where do I enter the code/command WC gave to activate the pride colors on Nitrado?

[celest halo]

in the email you send to Nitrado telling them to add the option like they did for easter colors

[grim roost]

Could someone please help me to activate pride colors? Im not sure where to do it.

[dusky radish]

can i allow wyverns in boss arenas ? On my personal steam cmd server

[native wave]

no way to do that on boss arenas that don't allow them

[native wave]

if you're on nitrado you have to wait until they add an interface option to do it

[marble condor]

curseforge down again?

[native wave]

possibly. I'm not logging out again to check though

[marble condor]

our whole server just got kicked

[native wave]

nitrado?

[marble condor]

yup, but same as earlier tonight so

[grim roost]

I see. I will wait, thanks! I'm curious however, they said something about adding a line to a server command line in unofficial servers. Do you know what that is about?

[marble condor]

up again!!

[native wave]

officials just went down too....seems nitrado (which hosts both) is having problems

[cedar ridge]

no

only for few person, not all

[native wave]

the command line is normally how you would start a dedicated server. Nitrado doesn't expose that for people using their service. They implement interface options to add command line arguments like the one to activate pride colors

[grim roost]

Oooh, ok! So in a worst case scenario, it could be "Nitrado may decide not to add that option" situation?

[native wave]

potentially, yes, but they are usually pretty good about adding those options, there's just a bit of time lag until they do

[grim roost]

Thank you so much! You have been very helpful. :3

[native wave]

no problem. though I don't use them anymore, I'm pretty familiar with how they are setup. I used to host clusters via nitrado.

[terse kraken]

I’m trying to setup the best world for me and my friends I got two questions if anyone could help me,
1: can I use multiple mods on one server/ island?
2: what’s the best dino/creatures mods I can use to make the best world, unique creature etc?
Please lemme know. Thank you

[grim roost]

I don't know about your 2nd question but on my server we have multiple mods on one map.

[terse kraken]

Ok thank you. My second question was just asking any cool dino mods with custom Dino’s or creatures in general

[grim roost]

What made you not want to host a cluster anymore?

[grim roost]

I'd ho on YouTube so I could see the mods others have reviewed and add the ones I liked. 🙂

[terse kraken]

Idk what to search but I’ll try that thx, oh and btw is there a pokemon mod or was it taken down?

[wise kindle]

What do your friends want?

[grim roost]

I'd search just for "ASA cool mods" or something on YT xD

[terse kraken]

Yea thanks lol

[terse kraken]

Like more Dino’s, mythics stuff etc I added a indo mod and we just want more fun Dino’s

[native wave]

Mostly it was the cost with nitrado. I decided I wanted to host my own. I eventually got my own old enterprise server and put it downstairs in our basement. I've been running Ark off of it since I got it. First ASE, now ASA. Also run other game servers off of it as well.

you can get older enterprise servers off of ebay fairly cheap....it's just shipping that can add to the price a bit. I fortunately have an electronics recycler just down the road from me that deals on ebay so I can do their local pickup option for free. They get stuff from a few local companies, but especially a large worldwide company that has their HQ here

[terse kraken]

I just wanna have fun, like more fun dinos for creative tames and etc that’s what I’m having trouble with

[grim roost]

That sounds awesome. I wish I could do it, too. But yes, Nitrado is very expensive for the service it offers, I think

[terse kraken]

Anyone have good dino mods I can use to make my world way more fun?

[native wave]

Draconic Chronicles probably would fit the bill for a fun dino mod that has mythic sort of stuff

[terse kraken]

Ima look into it thanks

And can Xbox and Pc players play ark together? Or is that still unavailable?

[native wave]

Shiny! is a good one too

[terse kraken]

So Draconic Chronicles and Shiny! ?

[native wave]

yes xbox and pc can play together so long as you are on a dedicated server

assuming you are talking about ASA

[terse kraken]

Yes ASA

[terse kraken]

Oh crap so it can’t be like just Me and my friend on one server of our own just playing? It’s had to be a multiplayer server? I’m confused I’m not good at this stuff

[native wave]

non-dedicated servers don't support crossplay

[wise kindle]

Im saying, have your friends find the mods if you dont know what to add lol.

[terse kraken]

We kinda new to mods on ASA that’s why I’m asking for help we don’t know what to do 😂

[terse kraken]

Can other people join us if I make a dedicated server?

Or can I lock it somehow?

[native wave]

you can apply a password or a whitelist

the whitelist works based on their EOS ID

[grim gorge]

Hi due to today server crash í lost all My babies dinos and eggs now

[native wave]

you can revert your server by loading an older save file

[grim gorge]

Now how í m gonna get all back? Server is 5431 tribe tugas

[native wave]

This is the unofficial setup help channel. for unofficial servers or single player

[grim gorge]

Ho sry

[native wave]

you're not likely to get your stuff back on official

[terse kraken]

And for the dedicated server do I have to be online for my freind to play it or can he play it while I’m offline?

And then we I get on we both can play?

[native wave]

with a dedicated server you don't have to be online for your friend to play

[terse kraken]

Can I also play? When he’s offline?

[native wave]

yes

[terse kraken]

So the server stay open till I close it?

[native wave]

correct

[terse kraken]

Kk thank you!

[grim rock]

@native wave is a real one

[spiral palm]

How does the Pyromane work with Player-owned unnoficials? does it not show up on my server unless I buy it? does everyone that hops onto my server havta buy it? (this i'd imagine is true regardless) I love how none of the promotional material discusses this strange scenario.

[grim rock]

I assume it's the same as the Bob's stuff where you can only interact with it if you buy but I could be wrong

[spiral palm]

So theoretically it'd appear on my server, but unless anyone has bought it they can't tame it. only kill it. That's what I got out of your statement. Ty for the answer btw

[jaunty vortex]

It also means things happen when you’re not online. Things rot. Animals get hungry. Fuel runs out. You need to plan for this.

[wise crypt]

Hello everyone, I have a quick question. If I want to run my own server I need to do as in the pinned video(download steam CMD etc) how if I buy the steam version of the ascended and run dedicated server from in game menu? Can I run the server from my laptop then and join from both Xbox and PS5?

My laptop has 16GB ram

[bleak ivy]

you don't need to buy steam to host the server. yes ASA is crossplay. hosting a dedicated is no longer possible through the game client.

[wise crypt]

Oh ok so I need to do it through the video guide then. Thanks

[bleak ivy]

yes, have to go through steam CMD. if you own ASA on steam then the server files will also show in the tools section of steam (should also be in the video)

[wise crypt]

And the main point. As Nitrado is constantly having issues with loop restart. If I run my own ndedicated one will I still have these issues?

[bleak ivy]

self-hosted should have way less issues. loop restart hasn't happened to me hosting my own.
some issues like the curseforge one that happened twice today will effect all servers tho.

[wise crypt]

Ok many thanks. I need to quit this Nitrado sh...

[bleak ivy]

the only thing I'd worry about is port-forwarding and if you have a static IP or not. those can and will have issues with outward connections (anybody connecting thats not in your house)

[wise crypt]

Oh and one more thing. What happens with your stuff(base and builds) when you change the map on dedicated server? Does it get wiped out like on nitrado? Or stay in place in case you return like on non-dedicated\single player?

I am only playing with my wife thou should not be a problem

[bleak ivy]

each map has its own save. unless you wipe it or run both at the same time nothing will happen.

[wise crypt]

So it is much better. On Nitrado it is always Bye bye my base when you change maps 🙂

[bleak ivy]

yep, no issues with LAN connections. won't need to worry much about connection stuff.

[wise crypt]

Thank you very much 🙂

[terse kraken]

Anyone have a rating for Primal chaos?

I belive pc and console share mods correct?

[eager patrol]

Does anyone know a code or command to lengthen the pyromane tame timer?

[wise kindle]

PC is more of a conversion mod, ALOT of other dino mods wont work well with it as it renders other modded dinos pretty much useless. So you would have to commit to it if that is what you want. That said, it is a very fun, very good mod.

[eager patrol]

I enjoyed the variations of it on ASE

[terse kraken]

So if I just play Primal chaos with no other mods I should be ok for Xbox?

Is that what you’re saying?

[wise kindle]

I wouldnt add other dino mods no. The PC dinos will destroy everything else and render them useless tbh. But like I said, its a good mod.

[eager patrol]

could do Shiny

[maiden niche]

How do I know which mod is it from?

[terse kraken]

Ty

[native wave]

go through your mod list and find the one that adds it. doing a basic search for it did not yield anything for me

actually wait.....looks like it's Prehistoric Beasts Part II

[burnt sky]

Anyone able to explain to me what server command line is? I’m trying to enable pride event colors.

[lunar cloud]

make sure you have update\install line correct as anonymous , here is mine: steamcmd.sh +force_install_dir ${ARK_DIR} +login anonymous +app_update 2430930 +quit

[wooden tartan]

Yep.

I use
steamcmd +force_install_dir C:\GameServer\bla bla bla bla bla +login anonymous +app_update 2430930 +quit" -Wait

[native wave]

my guess is you are running a server with nitrado. You have to wait for nitrado to add that as an option in their interface. They do not expose the command line as something you can edit

[burnt sky]

Yes! Thank you! I’ll wait for them. 😁

[latent lynx]

how would i enable build anywhere in my server?

[gilded copper]

I'm preparing an Asa RP server so i've been testing out the mods i've added. I've noticed on several mods the placeables aren't exactly all free range placing, they keep making me put them in specific spots, almost never where "I" want to put them, and more than half the time they are backwards and i dont get an option to turn them around. Is this a common thing or am i doing something wrong? How do i make ALL items be placed where ever we want? Is it a code i overlooked?

[wooden tartan]

Well there is not one setting that will do this for you. You can how ever change things like EnableExtraStructurePreventionVolumes and AllowCaveBuildingPvE. I'm sure there are other settings out there as well. I would for sure take a look at the Ark wiki and see whats out there.

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration

[latent lynx]

Thanks so much!

[wooden tartan]

If you need help finding or adding any of them feel free to shoot me a pm.

@thorn hound You can hold Q for like 3 seconds to disable snapping.

[wooden tartan]

Hold Q for like 3 seconds to disable snapping.

[gilded copper]

I will try that!

[wooden tartan]

Hmm could be EnableExtraStructurePreventionVolumes as well.

Make sure that's false.

Its in your GameUserSettings.ini

@gilded copper If you need help finding it let me know. 🙂

[gilded copper]

my game crashed so its gonna take me a few to get back in lol

[wooden tartan]

NP.

[gilded copper]

Does not work. Just puts the item away and when i let go my inventory opens

[wary chasm]

for the pride event thing how do i activate that? like where is the server commandline

[wooden tartan]

You on Nitrado @wary chasm?

[wary chasm]

yea just read it above

dont worry i see it now lol

[wooden tartan]

Cool deal lol.

Hmmmm @gilded copper Some folks are saying "Under Key Binds (keyboard) select "Toggle Fists / Fast Inventory (hold)" and set to Q." and that fixed it for them.

I also asked some folks in my server and they are saying Q is the key to stop snapping 100%.

[gilded copper]

Ok let me try the keybinding thing

[wooden tartan]

It also could be EnableExtraStructurePreventionVolumes. I would check that as well.

[gilded copper]

That worked! My Toggle Fists was 'unassigned'

Thank you, now i can be very much so less frustrated

[wooden tartan]

Cool deal. lol. Good luck on the server. 🙂

[gilded copper]

Thanks!

[proper frigate]

im hosting an asa server and ocasionaly when i respawn or relog some of my stats increase like my weight was 400 then i reloged it went to 800 my foritude was at 22 and then respawned after i died and it went to 34

[languid forge]

Currently running an unofficial server on The Center using beacon & bat files.

I was able to get the Rhyniognatha from the island to spawn in the swamps using the ini code.

Does anyone know if it is possible to bring the Oasisaur from Scorched Earth over to the island?

Used beacon to add to snowy Grassland but unsure it's working. Please any help.

Please @ me or reply to me.

[wooden tartan]

Hmmm have no clue on that one unfortunately. 😦

[spring loom]

so im downloading and running steamcmd for the first time and it only downloads 3 folders that are empty and the tutorial im watching it downloaded many more and i am unable to do the "login anonymous" could someone help

[fervent tree]

Are you just double clicking it? That's not gonna work. Check the tutorial again, they probably created something named a .bat file to interact with it. steamcmd is a tool to automate steam interaction so scripting is the easiest way to interact with it (IMHO)

[spice tendon]

is there a way to disable the extremely blue nights? especially on the center

[glacial creek]

anyone having issues launching the server on windows 2022 ? for me the same server files(in production), same ports open as was on 2019 just 2022 the server says its running but dont appear in the listings.

arkse cluster migrated to 2022 no problem, and launches, and shows in the listings unlike arksa for me is not.

[spring loom]

The tutorial said to double click it, I guess I'll find a different one

[exotic stone]

anyone know anything about pvp server kicking you out to the home screen on xbox when trying to join

[robust nymph]

Does centre not have a visible 50 50 despawn sqaure?
On island and scorched we gotta keep clearing 50 50 of wilds and randomly stolen then dupe player tames and items.
Almost daily.
Haven't had that on centre yet

[fervent tree]

It's a command line application. Double clicking it will let it do it's default action: In case of steamcmd update itself and then close. That's the reason you're just seeing the three folders and nothing else.

[high forge]

Anyone else keep getting timed out on the center ?

[lunar cloud]

yeah i get it often since the large patch before center, and more often since the centre
They have definitely introduced a bunch of network bugs in these latest patches

[tranquil oak]

When i transfer to another map and come back my structures no longer belong to me even thow they are still in my name, I have to retake the structure. Is there away to stop this as I can use the bed when I re download onto the map.

[oblique pewter]

My cluster has been up since release and no issues on the CE other than the internal bugs like lighting

[stark thorn]

Anyone use a breeding stopper mod?

[oblique pewter]

Elaborate?

[stark thorn]

It's ok, ima cry, this shiz just keeps crashing

[carmine shale]

Some of also got the problem that you cant build on a new Server. Im using this mods. Maybe some of you know if some mods are known for the problem
Mods:
Backpack
Recycler
TekBench
BeaconPlus
Primal Fear
Ultra Stacks
BetterStorage
Difficulty 320+
AwesomeSpyGlass!
Upgrade Station v1.8i
Extra Large Storage Box
Death Recovery Mod (v1.13)
Primal Fear Boss Expansion
Primal Fear Unofficial Dodo Expansion

[spare raft]

Hello, do you have ID for Pride Color ? (cheat settargetdinocolor X ?)

[oblique pewter]

It’s in #announcements

[spare raft]

Not name ... I want ID ...

69 as censured ... for Darkviolet

[oblique pewter]

Well there wasn’t a ID for a rainbow of colors

The event is just like the rest where it loops thru the color ids for wild Dino’s

[native wave]

going to see if I can kick start quetz spawning

so just boosting them 5x isn't enough

[full raptor]

My server crashes every 1 to 3 hours with an error, is there a solution?
Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0x000002328e84fe58

[amber veldt]

Keep getting this crash after a bit server side

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000068

CL: 553854 
0x00007ff73a4aecc9 ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73a5bbbbb ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff739b493db ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73ab76040 ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73c2a59f4 ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73a5bb76f ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73a56cd77 ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff737bbe959 ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73cc92a13 ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73c8931db ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73c676277 ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73a0aaa7a ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff737a1787c ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff737a0811c ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff737a1a69a ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff737a1b108 ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff737a1b1db ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff73d96f69a ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffac3147ac4 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffac4a0a4e1 ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction []

[native wave]

what is that the ultra paranoid edition?

[native wave]

So trying to add a normal Quetz spawn to what should be it's normal container on the Center...results in the server overrruning it's normal memory usage significantly until it crashes

and server never reaches online status

guess I'll just wait for them to fix Quetz spawns

[jaunty vortex]

Ark Ascended Server No DRM Unofficial?

Where did that come from?

[native wave]

definitely not Steamcmd or steam tools download

[jaunty vortex]

nope

[native wave]

sounds like it's probably related to a rare spawn of a modded dino? I'd check your mods one by one by removing them to see if you find one that doesn't make it crash.

[native wave]

I totally get wanting privacy, but I really don't think it's warranted here. you can get the official dedicated server exe from steamcmd with an anonymous login

[full raptor]

thank you. This is a MOD that I have installed. Let's check which one applies.
-mods=934290,932205,929420,936407,935410,916922,926956,927131,912902,945058,931874,924900,930170,928708,926259,975282,932943 -passivemods=927090,927084,927090,914844,951279,977652,900062,908148

[celest halo]

try buying the game and not using a hacked version of it

[native wave]

not going to check. that's something you need to do. That's an awfully long list of mods.

[full raptor]

The game crashed earlier due to another error, but is this also caused by one of the MOD dinosaurs?
Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0x0000000001010001

[amber veldt]

its server side crash dump

[celest halo]

then install the official version and not a hacked one

[native wave]

no reason to run ArkAscendedServer-NoDRM-Unofficial.exe instead of ArkAscendedServer.exe unless you're trying to use a client that is pirated. In which case, buy the game.

[native wave]

can't really tell anything from the exceptions that you post. There are several problems with the mod list you posted:

1. you have winter wonderland listed twice in the passive mods...pretty sure you can just drop that and love ascended from the list as those have been integrated.
2. Gigantoraptor and Xiphactinus have been added to the base game and can be removed or both moved to passivemods to ensure compatibility for the modded versions.

Once you resolve those, if you still crash....try the removing one mod at a time to see which one removed ends up not causing a crash.

[full raptor]

I'll try removing some mods and see how it goes. thank you.

[amber veldt]

its via nitrado -___-

[sharp grove]

this is the crash log of my nitrado server it is bought

[sharp grove]

@celest halo

cant send a screen but yeah

[native wave]

Then you can use the same troubleshooting steps I suggested to toshiaki...or contact nitrado support

Without more information like mod list...that's all I can help with

[sharp grove]

936882,932770,947033,929110,932312,928621,930494,939055,935408,928708,932975,932822,928793,928597,931903,945368,928818,954600,929912,984201,936660,937546,930442,938805,936457,940022

[native wave]

Oof...

Go through them looking for potential issues like those I mentioned earlier. I have breakfast to cook and will be back later

That heavy of a mod list will cause problems

[pale sentinel]

Noone gonna recognized numbers dude

[lethal coral]

Ive got a question everyone: We have 2 unofficial servers up. one is island and the other is Center. For some reason one of my friends crashes relentlessly on the Center but nobody else has this issue. It is not a hardware issue. Is there maybe some sort of known bug that targets a specific players atm? He has verified game files, reinstalled the game, weve checked mods (theyre the same on both maps) and weve added him to white list. Is there anything else we can try?

[native wave]

There are ways to look them up, cflookup

[pale sentinel]

If someone is here looking for support, would it not be on them to do the bare minimum to give us the names wit that?

[native wave]

Yeah...especially with that long of a list

[quick kettle]

I tried to join a unofficial server’s discord server and it wouldn’t let me anyone know why?

[sharp grove]

invalid link

[native wave]

also possible: over the default server limit of 100

[native wave]

only obvious thing is you have a few mods that duplicate functionality of other mods

[terse kraken]

Does anyone have experience with the mod called Jurassic Awakening? Cause I wanna know if it has a Indo Rex I tried googling I found nothing helpful. Anyone?

[distant hearth]

look up the mod on curseforge, they have a discord, join it an look in there

[native wave]

I have no experience with that. suggest you join their discord for more info

it is listed on their curseforge page

curseforge.com search for the name of the mod

[terse kraken]

Kk thanks

[distant hearth]

ive seen a few reports of similar issues with just one player in the other channels, no one found a fix yet, likely summit wc has to sort

[lethal coral]

Thanks for the reply. Oddly enough he can get in by bypassing authentication. But this is just a temporary fix. When the server tries to authenticate it bumps him off again.

[distant hearth]

not sure what you mean by authenticating sry

[strange summit]

Alright i am now on this band wagon. I am to the point where my server shows as running and using memory on my console, but even with Open 127.0.0.1 it doesnt join and no error messages

In the console the last message says No Spawn Additional explorer notes to spawn

[distant hearth]

that wudnt join as u arent specifing the port

[autumn yarrow]

Need help with whitelisting.

[strange summit]

When i did it prior it says incorrect password, so i removed the password and now it doesnt do anything

[distant hearth]

you cant use the open <ip>:<port> on server with password iirc

[strange summit]

I agree, i removed it still saying invalid password after restart

[distant hearth]

i see sry, so you are using the port on the end ip

[strange summit]

I just did to appease the concerns, same error incorrect passwor3d

[distant hearth]

lookup the server name on battlemetrics website see if it shows up, then check what port its actually running on

[autumn yarrow]

Looking for help with whitelisting and exclusivejoin have the number but don't know where to put it.

[distant hearth]

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration has the info

[strange summit]

It is showing on battlemertrics, as live, and ending port 7777

[distant hearth]

kk, does it show up in server listings ?

[strange summit]

still getting invalid server password and my bat file has no password strings anylonger

[autumn yarrow]

Tried that too confusing with stuff from ase that does not work with asa.

[strange summit]

no it has not yet shown on any unofficial list either

[distant hearth]

it will likely still be saved in the gus.ini

[strange summit]

Ill check that

[distant hearth]

works the same, you just use eos id instead of steam id

[distant hearth]

asa or ase?

[autumn yarrow]

Ok will try, thanks

[strange summit]

asa and yes the gus still showing a password.

[distant hearth]

make sure you have the show player server button ticked, then the filters at the top set to all for pve/pvp and the map selection

[strange summit]

I can post screenshots but yes i have every box except hide full and no filters

however removing password and im finally in thanks for having me check the GUS

[distant hearth]

hmm unsual, if battlemetrics see it usually it will show on the server browser

[strange summit]

agreed

[distant hearth]

id check you have port 7777 udp forwarded correctly , might be its just you can get on using the ip an port

[strange summit]

I have Google fiber I checked the external side not open but internal it is updated all defender settings and removed port forwarding and readded it. Still showing blocked

[distant hearth]

im hopeless at networking, just know asa use the one udp port and that needs forwarding inbound in windows defender and through router ,both udp

[strange summit]

yeah i have 7777 7778 opened and 27015 27020 udp open but showing closed externally, I am great at domain networks but I have never got portforwarding to show open on any port on any game at home

[distant hearth]

asa only needs the one udp port opened, defined with -port=5678 , the query port was for the ase steam server,
had that been a ase server then the query port needs be tcp iirc but mute point anyway for you as on asa .

might be the server start batch file messed up, i see alot that are quite wrong for asa ,
heres a simple example of a working one ,
Start ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?SessionName="willz laptop" -port=7777 -winlivemaxplayers=10
note the quotations around the sessionname , with out those the server cannot have a name with a space in it

[strange summit]

Yeah, the server is running im in it and I can have external people join with open command but its not on the server list

[distant hearth]

thats a new one on me if ure certain the search filters are correct , not sure then sry ..
you can try typing the command ArkServerList 0 to see if it show then, but just as much as pain in the backside has doing direct open

[strange summit]

tried that too, its np we are happy with this solution

[wooden tartan]

Make sure you check the "Show Player Servers" I did not read through all of the conversation so this could have been said already.

[strange summit]

Yes it is, cant post screenshots here but only thing I can think of is my modem (i dont have a router) doesnt like port forwarding even though i have checked like 12 times that its my device my IP and the right ports, it still shows closed

[marsh elm]

Anyone spawned an xiph new fish dino

So many codes online none working for me

[distant hearth]

didi you try this ?
cheat gmsummon "Xiphactinus_Character_BP_ASA_C" 150

would likely need to be underwater for it to work

[livid reef]

EnableExtraStructurePreventionVolumes=False
AllowCaveBuildingPvP=True
AllowCaveBuildingPvE=True

is there another setting that might be stopping me from building in the underworld in the center?

[distant hearth]

its just broken atm , wc needs to release an update see #announcements

[atomic arch]

Hi ! I have a Nitrado server for Ark: Evolved, and I would like to retrieve the save file. The save file works without any problems on Nitrado, but in single-player, it doesn't work at all. It crashes repeatedly on PGS_SupplyCrates and the map is Fjordur.

And here is the link to the error:

LowLevelFatalError [File:F:\build\LostIsland\Projects\ShooterGame\Source\ShooterGame\Private\ShooterGameMode.cpp] [Line: 2823]
Can't load world save file, please replace it with the latest backup.

VERSION: 358.25
KERNELBASE.dll!UnknownFunction (0x00007ff9e0c4ba99) + 0 bytes [UnknownFile:0]
ShooterGame.exe!FError::LowLevelFatal() (0x00007ff695cf7bf5) + 0 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\core\private\misc\outputdevice.cpp:354]
ShooterGame.exe!AShooterGameMode::LoadWorld() (0x00007ff694a8ff83) + 0 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\projects\shootergame\source\shootergame\private\shootergamemode.cpp:2825]
ShooterGame.exe!AShooterGameMode::InitGame() (0x00007ff694a516e4) + 0 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\projects\shootergame\source\shootergame\private\shootergamemode.cpp:1525]
ShooterGame.exe!UWorld::InitializeActorsForPlay() (0x00007ff6968228ea) + 43 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\world.cpp:3244]
ShooterGame.exe!UEngine::LoadMap() (0x00007ff6967f86e1) + 0 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\unrealengine.cpp:10374]
ShooterGame.exe!UEngine::Browse() (0x00007ff6967f313d) + 46 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\unrealengine.cpp:9028]
ShooterGame.exe!UEngine::TickWorldTravel() (0x00007ff6967f3ca3) + 0 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\unrealengine.cpp:9166]
ShooterGame.exe!UGameEngine::Tick() (0x00007ff696538213) + 0 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\engine\private\gameengine.cpp:1168]
ShooterGame.exe!FEngineLoop::Tick() (0x00007ff693cdb9d9) + 0 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\launchengineloop.cpp:2648]

ShooterGame.exe!GuardedMain() (0x00007ff693cd632c) + 0 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\launch.cpp:140]
ShooterGame.exe!GuardedMainWrapper() (0x00007ff693cdcf4a) + 5 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\windows\launchwindows.cpp:125]
ShooterGame.exe!WinMain() (0x00007ff693cdd099) + 8 bytes [f:\build\lostisland\engine\source\runtime\launch\private\windows\launchwindows.cpp:213]
ShooterGame.exe!__tmainCRTStartup() (0x00007ff697893de1) + 21 bytes [f:\dd\vctools\crt\crtw32\dllstuff\crtexe.c:618]
KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction (0x00007ff9e1f37344) + 0 bytes [UnknownFile:0]
ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction (0x00007ff9e32a26b1) + 0 bytes [UnknownFile:0]
ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction (0x00007ff9e32a26b1) + 0 bytes [UnknownFile:0]

[distant hearth]

try removing(keep them somewhere safe) the tribe an player data , just load the world save file .ark , see if that will work

also gennerally need to match any mods you used on the server to the single player

[atomic arch]

I have the same mods and I tried using all the tribe files and then only the Fjordur.ark file, but I have the same problem.

[distant hearth]

not sure then, have any of the other backups from the server you can try ?
i know it can be done as i did it a few years ago

my only issue was having to not use the player data files, i renamed my one to .arklocalprofile but still wudnt work

[atomic arch]

I tested the other backups, and they work perfectly on the server, but locally, nothing works—always the same error.

[bleak ivy]

singleplayer uses local player while servers use an ID. there is a lot of internal stuff as well so its not easy (might not be possible). just use commands to copy your survivor.

the world should just be able to be put in to work

[bleak ivy]

was it an official server save originally?

[distant hearth]

yea, supposedly you just rename the .arkprofile to .arkprofilelocal, i gave up an just force claimed what i wanted too

[atomic arch]

It was a private server between friends not an official save

[bleak ivy]

nah, afaik that won't work. there is a lot of stuff inside that is different. its not just the name.

[bleak ivy]

can you look at what launch options you have on steam?

[distant hearth]

was long time ago, i only wanted the save as i made huge replica of warrick castle out of cfk mod.
but i deffo found a way to load the world save

[bleak ivy]

saves should just be able to switch, I do it all the time with my server and singleplayer its just survivors that don't.

both ASE and ASA I did it.

[atomic arch]

i didi that all the time but with fjordur my game didnt want

[atomic arch]

Play ARK : Survival Evolved

[distant hearth]

random thought, i doubt it wud get that far before crashing, but you arent trying switch the mod map version with offical version ?

[bleak ivy]

no, in properties. (right click ark, properties, general, bottom box)

[fair matrix]

could someone help me with my baby settings ? at first i had the cuddle interval at 0.01 like the forums reccomend but we weren unable to imprint most things at 10x mature speed so i changed it to -2x and now we can imprint immidiately but you get 0% from the imrpint. something must be off. please advise. pretty much everything on the server is 10x for reference

AllowAnyoneBabyImprintCuddle=True
BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=2
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=-2
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=10
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=10
MatingSpeedMultiplier=2
MatingIntervalMultiplier=5
BabyCuddleGracePeriodMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleLoseImprintQualitySpeedMultiplier=1

[atomic arch]

i have nothing

[bleak ivy]

do you have singleplayer settings on?

[distant hearth]

google beacon ark omni app / program, in the free version you can set all the baby settings an see what effect it has on dinos, easy to setup then

[fair matrix]

no this is a pvp dedi

[atomic arch]

I have always played on fjordur in dlc and not modded

[bleak ivy]

cuddle interval to 0.17

[distant hearth]

yea thought as much, was just a shot in the dark

[fair matrix]

do the other settings look right ? at 0.01 we were still unable to imprint things like argies

imprint in 8 hrs raised in like a few hrs

[bleak ivy]

0.01 is a 5 minute imprint timer.

you'd be doing dozens for everything. its too fast.

[fair matrix]

something must be way off because we still had 8 hrs on argy imprints etc

[bleak ivy]

it doesn't change retroactivly. you need a newly hatched baby.

[fair matrix]

yup did that with restarts

-2 lets me imprint the baby immidiately but i get 0% frm the imprint

[bleak ivy]

8 hours is the default. its not changing then.

[fair matrix]

which one makes it give me 50-100% per imprint

[bleak ivy]

you aren't supposed to go negative.

[fair matrix]

Dx

0.01 should have done it but it was still 8 hrs lol

[bleak ivy]

depends on the dino, 0.17 lets everything go to 100%

[bleak ivy]

where did you put it.

[fair matrix]

i have the same baby settings in GUS under server settings and also in game.ini just to be sure

[distant hearth]

BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=1 is default , if u want100% imprints from one cuddle change it to like 10

[bleak ivy]

gotta go higher then 10 for the bigger tames. just set it to 100 or something

[distant hearth]

depends on the other settings, its so much easier to just use beacon an see the exact result

[bleak ivy]

but that would still require cuddle interval to be working.

[bleak ivy]

don't think breeding is on free.

[distant hearth]

99% sure it is, or it was anyway ...

[fair matrix]

i didnt have that one. so this is good ?

AllowAnyoneBabyImprintCuddle=True
BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=2
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.17
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=10
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=10
MatingSpeedMultiplier=2
MatingIntervalMultiplier=5
BabyCuddleGracePeriodMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleLoseImprintQualitySpeedMultiplier=1
BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=10

[bleak ivy]

guess it is now I'm 100% sure it wasn't before since I didn't use it

[olive talon]

It is on the free version for asa (https://usebeacon.app/omni)

[fair matrix]

edited kept sending early

[bleak ivy]

where are you putting them all? some of those go in gameusersettings while some go in game

[distant hearth]

you will want about 0.10 on cuddle interval and 25 on the amount to get every dino imprinted, with 1 imprint at 48 mins

[distant hearth]

nu uh there all game.ini

[fair matrix]

i have all of them in gus and in game

should i take them out of GUS?

[distant hearth]

you got lucky im at the laptop with beacon open so i just quickly banged the numbers through 🙂

[bleak ivy]

AllowAnyoneBabyImprintCuddle goes in gameusersettings.

[bleak ivy]

doesn't matter if they are in both.

it'll just ignore them

[bleak ivy]

I already did it lol.

[fair matrix]

sooo?

AllowAnyoneBabyImprintCuddle=True
BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=2
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.10
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=10
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=10
MatingSpeedMultiplier=2
MatingIntervalMultiplier=5
BabyCuddleGracePeriodMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleLoseImprintQualitySpeedMultiplier=1
BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=10

[bleak ivy]

0.17 works

[distant hearth]

i stand corrected apologies, i wasnt even looking at that tbh was just doing the numbers

[spice tendon]

I remember one of the community crunches stating that we can add premium mods (a creature for example) to our servers and you can join without purchasing but you can’t tame said creature. But I don’t see this as being true on my cluster. It’s prompting everyone to buy it

[olive talon]

It said they were looking into it, it has not been implemented. Any premium servers will have to be purchased currently.

[distant hearth]

0.17 makes yuty need 2 imprints, didnt they want just the one ?

[fair matrix]

2 imprints is fine

[bleak ivy]

not if they did 100 like I said lol.

[fair matrix]

right now im just getting 0% from the imprint

[bleak ivy]

you did have it set to -2 😂 and before that it was just ignoring the change.

[fair matrix]

im learning

[distant hearth]

also remeber that anything in the world will be old settings, you will need to hatch, birth new babies for it to take effect of new settings

[fair matrix]

yup im restsrting and hatching new eggs

[bleak ivy]

I don't think any setting should be negative maybe one of the stat related. but none should be.

[fair matrix]

alright so im gonna go with this under game.ini and report back thx yall

AllowAnyoneBabyImprintCuddle=True
BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=2
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.10
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=10
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=10
MatingSpeedMultiplier=2
MatingIntervalMultiplier=5
BabyCuddleGracePeriodMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleLoseImprintQualitySpeedMultiplier=1
BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=10

[distant hearth]

iirc it wont accept negatives just defaults to 1

[bleak ivy]

negative harvest rates

[fair matrix]

-2 def changed it , i wasnt able to imprint before and then it was immidiate but the imprint gave 0%

[bleak ivy]

some settings will change back others won't. changing through ini is also different then the ingame menu.

[distant hearth]

LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4
you do not want this =0.25 wud more like if u want speed up 4x

[bleak ivy]

its an interval tho

[fair matrix]

oh sheesh

[bleak ivy]

intervals are down for faster

yeah "Scales the time between eggs are spawning / being laid. Higher number increases it (by percentage)." from the wiki.

lower is faster

[distant hearth]

yea i worded it bad, he has =4 , that not good, he needs 0.25 to get that effect

[bleak ivy]

oh

Lol. yeah,

[distant hearth]

youd think since im english i cud explain shit better lmao but no... i struggle to explain what i mean

sid eeffect of being a dumb arse mechanic i guess, never was any good at english in school

[fair matrix]

no i got u thanks , adjusted it

[distant hearth]

you might find that using BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=2 is way OP
, upto you but that make it super easy

[bleak ivy]

yeah, stat changes scale fast.

[fair matrix]

back at 1

i dont want it to be easy , just not a time sink

[distant hearth]

that particular setting effects how much boost the dinos get from an imprint so with a 100% imprint they wud of got double what they shud

[bleak ivy]

10x mature rate may still be a time sink guess that depends on you tho. 5 hours for rexs still.

[fair matrix]

i think 1 day to hatch and raise is reasonable

[eager patrol]

Anyone know how to find a list of dino spawn containers?

[bleak ivy]

yeah, sorry 9 hour lol. was looking at incubation

[fair matrix]

we just quit official 1x

[distant hearth]

18hours 31 min 6s for a yuty to fully raise on x10 from birth

[bleak ivy]

30 minutes btw, didn't change it

[fair matrix]

as long as im not spending 9 days on a giga

[bleak ivy]

2 days

[fair matrix]

fair tbh

[bleak ivy]

1 day and 5 hours.

[distant hearth]

1day 23mins and 54s for giga

[bleak ivy]

am counting incubation

[distant hearth]

yea didnt add that , was just mature time

[fair matrix]

so far 10x mature has felt pretty right

hatch / mature

[distant hearth]

its why i love beacon, can just see exact what the setting does

[bleak ivy]

its slow for me lol. can't imagine spending that long.

[eager patrol]

is that applied with just -prideday or

[fair matrix]

i will install it... i just figured its all here just broken

[distant hearth]

me too but as there coming from official its a huge boost

[bleak ivy]

I was using a spreadsheet that did the math for me haven't checked beacon so thought it was still omni

[fair matrix]

we played official 1x for 8 months

[bleak ivy]

yeah lol. 1x to 10x is huge.

[fair matrix]

so i figured instead of my gf breeding our rexs from 10k - 20k over 8 months maybe like 2-3 months

something like that

[distant hearth]

yea , depends if you use the fancy dino baby auto pick up mod, then it go faster haha , im a mod addict now a days, after about 5 years of ase xbox no mods i never looked back once got pc steam and mods haha

[fair matrix]

we have 16 mods ;p

[bleak ivy]

same thing happened to me 😂 was playing xbox switched back to PC and downloaded too many mods.

[distant hearth]

i only have about 6, but there all very very good ones

[fair matrix]

def a plus coming from official . i dont use anything autonomous or qol though

[bleak ivy]

I suggest getting dino storage even if you make it act like cryopods. its just way better.

[fair matrix]

npcs are hilarious. have them set to hardest and they tame gigas and put up turrets'

[distant hearth]

3 mods i cant play with out, custom dino level,shiny dino and a cryo mod(super cryo storage)

[bleak ivy]

wait, ASA or ASE have you said yet.

[fair matrix]

ASA

[distant hearth]

asa as came from official ... i presumed

[bleak ivy]

I use dino depot for ASA. there are a bunch of them now tho.

[distant hearth]

shiny dino is my all time fave mod, adds a lot of diveristy to dino tames ,if i cud only have 1 , it wud be it

[bleak ivy]

I should reinstall shiny

[distant hearth]

first time u tame a lunar daeodon , you will laugh so hard

[heady monolith]

Hi could some tell me how to allow building in caves on center plz I’ve put the code in but still. Any

[distant hearth]

yea pretty much all copies of the old dino storage v2 ase mod

[bleak ivy]

heard some of them are broken right now.

[distant hearth]

got wait for a fix from wc for some of the caves #announcements

[heady monolith]

Oh ok

[fair matrix]

finally able to restart again...finall settings are

BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.10
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=10
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=10
MatingSpeedMultiplier=2
MatingIntervalMultiplier=0.5
BabyCuddleGracePeriodMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleLoseImprintQualitySpeedMultiplier=1
BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=10

[pale sentinel]

Does anyone here know why all my supply crates are giving masterworks? I have 1.5x supply crate loot quality, is that all it takes?

I figured that would make the loot slightly more interesting, but it seems to be a lot more than that haha.

HarvestAmountMultiplier=3.0 
PlayerHarvestingDamageMultiplier=2.0
DinoHarvestingDamageMultiplier=5.0```

That's my custom harvest related settings but I don't think Harvest Amount affects supply crates?

[fair matrix]

i have supply crates at 10 and i usually only find asc gauntlets

in swamp/ice cave drops just bad pn the island

ill say on official tho i regularly pulled asc comp bows or saddle bps out of ice and swamp and i never see that on dedi at 10x crates

[bleak ivy]

should just be loot quality and difficulty that effects drops.

[pale sentinel]

5.0 difficulty

Because that's as high as official goes

[fair matrix]

i have difficulty 5 offset 1

[bleak ivy]

yeah, what most people play on

[humble thicket]

i have been yelling at nitrado for the command line argument to get the pride colors or any other event colors. any way i can bypass this and get the colors?

[pale sentinel]

Can I specifically lower fiber harvest rates cause it's kinda insane

[bleak ivy]

nope, they don't have a spot for command line.

[fair matrix]

i had to put pride before -mods

[pale sentinel]

@humble thicket Not currently

[humble thicket]

any mods?

[humble thicket]

where?

[main oyster]

just watched an alpha rex destory my entire base and all my tames

[humble thicket]

welcome to ark

[pale sentinel]

Wrong place but no worries, sucks when it happens.

[fair matrix]

in my batch file before the -mods section is where i had to move it to for it to work

[bleak ivy]

try
HarvestResourceItemAmountClassMultipliers=(ClassName="PrimalItemResource_Fibers_C",Multiplier=0.5)

[fair matrix]

i had initially put it at the end of the command line

[pale sentinel]

Will do Thanks Desolate.

[humble thicket]

the thing is we dont have a commandline to apply arguments on a nitrado dashboard. i have no idea where to put this

[bleak ivy]

you just have to wait until nitrado adds it.

[pale sentinel]

Selfhost 🙂

ascend the ranks

[fair matrix]

you dont have access to cinfig files ?

[pale sentinel]

Nitrado is a walled garden approach to server hosting You can only modify what the y expose on a dashboard

[bleak ivy]

they don't have access to the commandline

[humble thicket]

this may be the one and only good answer to anything. selfhost to ascend the ranks. love it.

[fair matrix]

at the very least should have access to the exe folder and to the gus folders

[bleak ivy]

nitrado shows what they want.

[humble thicket]

we only have access to the game.ini and gameusersetting.ini, do you mean gameusersettings.ini with gus?

[fair matrix]

that is what gus is short for yes

but you dont add the -pride arguments there

[humble thicket]

so, please guide me step by step, where do i need to put the argument? i have the access to game.ini and gus.ini

[bleak ivy]

nitrado can't use it. they don't show the commandline.

[simple orbit]

Anybody having issues with there center cluster crashing

[fair matrix]

i have never used it. can you go back 1 folder destination and then do you have a binaries folder ?

[bleak ivy]

they do not see the bat file.

[humble thicket]

we dont have any folders.

[pale sentinel]

Again, you cannot do it on Nitrado right now. There is nothing more to be said. Go complain on their discord.

[fair matrix]

unfortunate

[pale sentinel]

Did nitrado ever previously expose the easter events or etc?

[fair matrix]

i feel ur pain. trying to get chitin in swamp is donkeydoo rn with 10x fiber and berries in the way. 1 swipe i cant move xD

[humble thicket]

there is an option to activate the easter event in the dashboard but that does not work now because there is pride event, which we dont have because, no command line

[pale sentinel]

Interesting, always thought the command line argument for events overrides the current event

In fact, I remember booting up my server one day without any command line argument and it was just the timed event.

Christmas / Valentines especially this was in ASE though.

[fair matrix]

i currently have both pride colors and christmas active rn

[humble thicket]

ASE you could set the "current event" or any of your choice in a dropdown. in ASA we can a checkbox for easter. it is checked and worked perfectly till two days ago

[bleak ivy]

in ASE the events auto-activated when the time was right.

its how singleplayer sets them until they added the box in the menu

[fair matrix]

my friends , this is still not working. this is under game.ini

[/Script/ShooterGame.ShooterGameMode]
BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.10
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=10
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=10
MatingSpeedMultiplier=2
MatingIntervalMultiplier=0.5
BabyCuddleGracePeriodMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleLoseImprintQualitySpeedMultiplier=1
BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=10

[bleak ivy]

which part isn't working?

[humble thicket]

my understanding was, the current official event will be active by default on unofficial untill checked to not. but the easter event checkbox did not change, they should just changed from easter event to choose event and you can chose what you want.

[fair matrix]

my babies are asking for imp right away but it gives 0% when you do it

[bleak ivy]

the interface stuff is nitrado. in ASA actual events are using mods, these color events are going to need their own button/setting for it.

[bleak ivy]

you are self-host right?

[fair matrix]

yes

want me post the config files

[bleak ivy]

close the server, open game.ini to make sure the settings took. save, then open the server.

[fair matrix]

way ahead of u

settings stuck

i also removed the redundant settings in GUS so i only have them in game.ini now

[bleak ivy]

not sure, never had settings not save on self-host. its pretty common on nitrado tho. gotta wait 5 minutes between each step lol.

[fair matrix]

nothing else affects the % you get from imprint?

[bleak ivy]

nothing that would overwrite it. make sure there isn't a second one I guess.

maybe check if you have singleplayer settings again

[fair matrix]

where is this at

[bleak ivy]

also game

[fair matrix]

shouldnt , pvp aand all the other adjustments are working harvest etc

[bleak ivy]

singleplayer settings doesn't change everything.

[fair matrix]

[/Script/ShooterGame.ShooterGameMode]
BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.10
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=10
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=10
MatingSpeedMultiplier=2
MatingIntervalMultiplier=0.5
BabyCuddleGracePeriodMultiplier=1
BabyCuddleLoseImprintQualitySpeedMultiplier=1
BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=10

GlobalSpoilingTimeMultiplier=5
GlobalItemDecompositionTimeMultiplier=2
GlobalCorpseDecompositionTimeMultiplier=3
StructureDamageRepairCooldown=1
CropGrowthSpeedMultiplier=8
PoopIntervalMultiplier=1
CropDecaySpeedMultiplier=-1
CustomRecipeEffectivenessMultiplier=3
CustomRecipeSkillMultiplier=3
PhotoModeRangeLimit=300000
LimitGeneratorsNum=0
bAllowUnlimitedRespecs=True
FuelConsumptionIntervalMultiplier=60
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=-2

[ShooterGameMode_TEMPOverrides]
bUseCorpseLocator=True

[bleak ivy]

remove that empty line.

between imprint amount and spoiling time

[fair matrix]

thats my whole game.ini i dont have singleplayersettings sould i add it =false?

[autumn yarrow]

Trying to set up admin whitelisting, wiki not helping me. I added the 32 digit id to the file. Do I need to add the file path to the ini?

[bleak ivy]

I guess, no idea what its default is

[fair matrix]

dun

[bleak ivy]

my game.ini is so much longer 😂

[fair matrix]

can i see yours ? maybe ill want to adjust some thngs i dont have

asa right

[bleak ivy]

its uh. over 1000 lines

[fair matrix]

lol jfc

[bleak ivy]

1658 lines 😂

[distant hearth]

nitrado server?

[fair matrix]

self hosted

still getting 0 from cuddling

[bleak ivy]

new baby right?

[fair matrix]

but argies are asking for imp at birth ....yes we hatched a new egg

[distant hearth]

with fresh eggs? cannot be an egg in the world, it must be a new laid egg

[bleak ivy]

really?

[fair matrix]

oh mayve this

it was in the fridge...i will report back

[distant hearth]

you also still have LayEggIntervalMultiplier=4 in there

[bleak ivy]

I don't know if thats true but maybe try a new egg.

[distant hearth]

you want that at =0.25

[fair matrix]

that one keeps reverting lol

were hatcing a new egg

17 min to cook it. will report :p

[distant hearth]

100% you need a brand new fresh laid egg, or the changes dont take effect, or pop out a new baby from mamals . some reason the data is stored in the egg

[fair matrix]

gotcha

my fridge eggs are not good enough

[distant hearth]

yea there junk now

[bleak ivy]

weird.

[distant hearth]

well kibble

[bleak ivy]

eat them or kibble but argy so eat them.

[distant hearth]

always been like it, kinda odd right coz the ini settings are stored in the egg, but on the egg hatch still random what dino stats pop out, something in the coding

[fair matrix]

tossing out bc they dont stack 0.o

god i miss deinons

unlimited kibble

[bleak ivy]

stats and colors are stored in the egg. just weird that settings like cuddle interval would be.

[sharp oriole]

Hi there guys I need someone to guide me from linking two maps for my server area if it’s possible and to know wether they’ll be possible or not

[fair matrix]

that is weird to me too because if they change the stats on official they can do it on the fly right , and anything im already raising is adjustded

[distant hearth]

just ini is, i once hatched an egg got mele mutation on triplets , server rolled back, same egg gave single baby , no mutation

[fair matrix]

rates *

[bleak ivy]

nah, breeding settings are weird when changed. iirc the imprint is supposed to change to the new one after the current one is done.

[distant hearth]

thats done via dynamic config

[fair matrix]

os that somethins i can set up ?

[bleak ivy]

how would the egg incubator work then lol

does it pre-hatch the egg to see stats/colors

[fair matrix]

i would love to be able to make changes without taking it down and bugging my friends

[bleak ivy]

not all settings can go in it. never done it tho so can't really help

[strange summit]

On the command screen how do i do a shutdown? I type stop or shutdown nothiung happens

[bleak ivy]

quit

[strange summit]

thanks

[fair matrix]

cheat quit

if ur ingame

[bleak ivy]

shouldn't need cheat on the server console.

hmm

[distant hearth]

i dunno how it works , unless i mixed up eggs after roll back , i guess thats possible actually , was on ase long time ago ... but 100% i know u need fresh eggs for ini settings to take effect

[bleak ivy]

I only know for sure that imprint settings don't like changing. pretty sure incubating and mature rate change regardless.

[bleak ivy]

this may actually be how it works, would explain why no mods do it like how the egg incubator does.

[distant hearth]

its beyond my small brain knowledge haha , i get a headache ... i guess easy for me as i just use beacon to set the ini before i even hatch anything for years now as i know what the outcome be

[fair matrix]

ok so

still 0% freshly layed egg

[distant hearth]

copy paste send me the txt from both ini files in dm if u want, something must be amiss, duplicates maybe

[fair matrix]

i appreciate the help, incoming

[pale sentinel]

HarvestHealthMultiplier=4.0
HarvestAmountMultiplier=3.0 
PlayerHarvestingDamageMultiplier=2.0
DinoHarvestingDamageMultiplier=5.0
HarvestResourceItemAmountClassMultipliers=(ClassName="PrimalItemResource_Fibers_C",Multiplier=0.5)

Anyone know why I'm stil getting like 3-4 per hit on a metal pickaxe and a stone?

Some swings I even get nothing.

[bleak ivy]

your harvest health is making it so it takes longer to harvest.

per hit, you should be getting less then 1x

[pale sentinel]

I am haha

Okay that makes more sense, so if I want 3x harvesting, I need 3x my harvest health as player damage?

[bleak ivy]

just don't change harvest health. leave it at 1x

[pale sentinel]

Okay.

[bleak ivy]

harvest health just makes it take longer to harvest.

[pale sentinel]

I just figured you'd get more per node that way. 😛

[bleak ivy]

nah, just more hits to destroy it can help on high rates to prevent lag tho lol.

[pale sentinel]

So what would you recommend if I just want 3x harvesting. Leave player damage or 3x it?

[bleak ivy]

3x harvesting is 3x harvesting lol. damage and harvest health just change the speed you destroy nodes.

[pale sentinel]

Ah okay.

Thanks, haha.

[strange summit]

What setting to not take damage from your own tribe

[distant hearth]

game .ini
bDisableFriendlyFire=false

[strange summit]

Hmm my game ini is empty ill add it of course but should there be something in here

[latent lynx]

so i messed up my mating thing and it takes 19 days to mate.... and i but it back to normal values and new dinos still take that long. any idea how to fix this?

[distant hearth]

nah, often empty on fresh servers

[strange summit]

ok

Also i know this is wrong place but i asked in ark and noone answered. I have the offset for my camera to go to the right of my char, but i also wwant it above my shoulder not at my belly any way to move it

[humble thicket]

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000008

CL: 553854
0x00000001432d91e9 ArkAscendedServer.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001432ccba3 ArkAscendedServer.exe!UnknownFunction []
Last Replicated Actor Lystro_Character_BP_C_2146909767
Last Remote Function ClientMoveResponsePacked

Help please

[distant hearth]

any dino already in the world with a cooldown , needs its timer to run down before it can mate again.
change back what ever you changed to make it break ,
likely
MatingIntervalMultiplier=1
thats default , lower is more often , so =0.5 doubles it

[latent lynx]

yes we changed it to 0.5 then restarted the server, tamed new birds for eggs and its still happing

it was 10, whitch broke it to begin with

however it has changed to 0.5 now

[distant hearth]

check in the ini that the change has take effect,
nitrado ui is notoriously laggy
close server, wait atleast 5 mins, make change, save it, wait atleast a minute, rstart server

also check for duplicates of that line

[latent lynx]

not using nitrado survial servers is what we use

[distant hearth]

kk same thing though, anything with a ui can be laggy, others tend to be better though tbh

[royal light]

Can someone help me with the a setup for a rhyniognatha spawn on the Center Asa , i trie al kind of line but i get never a rhyniognatha on the Map.

[distant hearth]

@native wave has one that works , bless him spent ages getting it right, scroll up a load an you will find it

shit srry i didnt mean to tag you thunder, my bad, just wanted to mention name

[jaunty vortex]

Scroll further if you want 60 of them 😂

[distant hearth]

even further to find the one i susgested an it gave like 400 odd lmao

i have always sucked at adding dino spawn s

[royal light]

i tried this one , but i get not a single rhyniognatha on my Server and have 32000 Dinos on them

[distant hearth]

you did dino wipe?

[royal light]

100 times all day Long

[distant hearth]

no idea then , i trust his code to work over anything i can spit out with beacon lmao

[native wave]

I usually get like 3-4 that spawn around the swamp areas

it's a messy solution but it works for my needs

[native wave]

you put it in the game.ini right?

[royal light]

Yes

[distant hearth]

also under the header [/script/shootergame.shootergamemode]

not just dumped at the bottom under that other header

it wont work under this header
[ShooterGameMode_TEMPOverrides]

[royal light]

Yes , normal it will work like for Scorched Earth i added the giga and Gigaraptor but the rhyniognatha will not spwan

[distant hearth]

copy paste that bit code here, maybe we can see an error

[native wave]

this is the one I'm running currently

[royal light]

ConfigAddNPCSpawnEntriesContainer=(NPCSpawnEntriesContainerClassString="DinoSpawnEntriesSwamp_C",NPCSpawnEntries=((AnEntryName="Rhyniognatha",EntryWeight=50.0,NPCsToSpawn=("/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C","/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C""/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C""/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C""/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C""/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C"),NPCsToSpawnPercentageChance=(0.0001,0.0001,0.0001,0.0001,0.0001,0.0001),ManualSpawnPointSpreadRadius=2500.0)),NPCSpawnLimits=((NPCClassString="/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C",MaxPercentageOfDesiredNumToAllow=0.001)))

i higher the number now for test

[native wave]

try just using the code I wrote, I seriously spent a couple days on it

[pale sentinel]

Can beacon adjust things like structure limits in realtime?

or is there a way to reload configs

[distant hearth]

no nothing can do that, those need the server shutdown , added , saved then restarted

[humble thicket]

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0xffffffffffffffff

CL: 553854
0x00000001433d03fe ArkAscendedServer.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00000001409d7b4b ArkAscendedServer.exe!UnknownFunction []
Last Replicated Actor Dodo_Character_BP_C_2147198197
Last Remote Function ClientMoveResponsePacked

again please help

[royal light]

I trie it and a lot other that i can find but the Bug dosent spawn .. i am on Nitrado by the way

[distant hearth]

stop server, wait atleast 5 mins, add to the game ini , save it wait atleast a minute, start server, dino wipe
speed up time or check after an hour with cheat listdino

[native wave]

upping the entryweight to 50 doesn't do what you think it does. that's a float that ranges from 0-1. entering a number that high might just invalidate that entry

[distant hearth]

nice catch , i actually saw an thought it wud just default to 1.0 tbh , but yea some stuff it just breaks

[native wave]

you look at the spawn weights they used for all the creatures in the game, nothing above 1

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Spawn_entries#ARK:_Survival_Evolved-0

I'd format the tables for the wiki if they would give me the actual data for the released maps

[distant hearth]

i dont think its availble, even using beacon i dont think its right, the quetz entry for centre is weird

[native wave]

yeah I tried modifying the spawns of the quetz earlier....multiplying it didn't work and when I just tried adding spawns it crashed my server

[distant hearth]

ConfigOverrideNPCSpawnEntriesContainer=(NPCSpawnEntriesContainerClassString="DinoSpawnEntriesQuetz_C",NPCSpawnEntries=((AnEntryName="Quetz (1)",EntryWeight=1,NPCsToSpawn=("/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Quetzalcoatlus/Quetz_Character_BP.Quetz_Character_BP_C"),NPCsSpawnOffsets=((X=0,Y=0,Z=10000)),NPCsToSpawnPercentageChance=(1),WaterOnlySpawnMinimumWaterHeight=140,GroupSpawnOffset=(X=0,Y=0,Z=35))))

this what beacon spits out as asa quetz entry

as in its what it thinks the default entry is

all though is does say simplfied default spawns, ... what ever that mean

[native wave]

somehwhat close to what I had...didn't have the offsets or wateronly part

[distant hearth]

ikr kinda odd a quetz wud have a water part , might be why there broken lmao, prehaps deleting that make 1 spawn

[royal light]

okay i trie it again likt thunder do it but with time and check it later

[native wave]

well that part is setting the minimum spawn height above water I think

[distant hearth]

i thought it was the minimum below water...
i only see it on other entries for water creatures

nvm ignore me, i checked some others an there set same

[native wave]

we'll see what happens. had kind of stopped working on the foundation for my base as I was trying to plan things out

[distant hearth]

giga entry has same

[native wave]

trying to improve upon the base I have on the island with the one I'm building on the center

nope, nothing

[strange summit]

@distant hearth I PM'ed you wanted to ask about a few other settings or where a list is

[simple orbit]

Anybody having there center crash every 15/20 min

Please @ me

[wooden tartan]

I do not. Almost up for two days here. Are you on Nitrado?

[native wave]

well got quetz to spawn.....there's now more than 1100 lol

[distant hearth]

that sounds like my sort code lmao , i serously despise spawn coding

[native wave]

even a really low entry weight in DinoSpawnEntriesMountain_C results in over 1k

[distant hearth]

prolly becuase it doesnt have the maxpercentagetoallow limit?

[native wave]

probably. saw the area that affects, want something a tad more widespread

[distant hearth]

quetz fly about whole map thpough ? so might not matter where its spawn starts

not quite sure how there coded but seem to just fly in straightline one side to other unless disturbed

[glacial creek]

windows server 2022 is anyone else running arksa server on it without error?

[upbeat roost]

I gotta question for anyone playing unofficial, for some reason I’m having a way over spawn of beavers, ocean creatures, and thylacoleo across multiple servers and i don’t know how to fix it, anyone maybe know what’s causing that?

[heavy jay]

How can i get the center to show up on the island transfer list only shows up on SE.

[olive talon]

For your unofficial server?

[heavy jay]

yes

[olive talon]

Switch the map filter to all

[distant hearth]

nitrado or self hosted?

[heavy jay]

nitrado

[distant hearth]

as bee said above, also make sure all the servers in the cluster are using the exact same clusterid in crossark

[heavy jay]

ok ill check again thx for the help

[distant hearth]

np, if u can not see it in the obelisk when trying transfer its a cluster id issue
if you can transfer then it messes up, its a filter issue in the crossark setting

[lone slate]

My Center map was crashing every 5mins. Make a ticket with nitrado saying it’s constantly crashing and unplayable and they make “changes to the server blackend” - that’s what they did with mine and it never crashed again 👍

[onyx gale]

Anyone else have a cluster where traveling from one map to another causes items in inventory to duplicate?

[onyx gale]

I have two clusters and this is happening on both. One cluster has no mods at all

[sleek needle]

Anyone have any issues with no unofficial service showing up on the server list

[distant hearth]

in the search menu, try setting the filters at the top to all, not a specific map or pve/pvp

[sleek needle]

Ok thanks I will try that

[languid forge]

Is it possible to have Oasisuar spawn on the Center using the below code?

ConfigAddNPCSpawnEntriesContainer=(NPCSpawnEntriesContainerClassString="SnowGrasslands_Spawn_C",NPCSpawnEntries=((AnEntryName="OasisaurCenter",EntryWeight=0.15,NPCsToSpawn=("/Game/Packs/Frontier/Dinos/Oasisaur/Oasisaur_Character_BP.Oasisaur_Character_BP_C"),NPCsToSpawnPercentageChance=(0.15),ManualSpawnPointSpreadRadius=3000)),NPCSpawnLimits=((NPCClass="/Game/Packs/Frontier/Dinos/Oasisaur/Oasisaur_Character_BP.Oasisaur_Character_BP_C",MaxPercentageOfDesiredNumToAllow=0.05)))

[distant hearth]

it shud be , not sure what results will give, often have to mess with the weight an maxdesired % to get a good balance

[languid forge]

My dino finder says out of 32k dinos zero spawned. even dino wiped a few times

[distant hearth]

dunno if dino finder picks up oasisaur?
it can take a few hours for dinos to fully spawn and like i said might need to mees with the weights ,
also do dino wipe after any change u make to dino spawns

try an entry weight of 0.30, see what happens, its all trial an error far as i can tell, but im not greatest at spawns , normally get thousands in lolz

[bleak ivy]

sometimes dinos can't spawn on non-native maps without mods

[languid forge]

Is theree a mod for it?

[bleak ivy]

no idea. side note. singleplayer dino spawns suck lol.

[languid forge]

Hosting unoffical PC server and playing on xbox

[bleak ivy]

I assumed that, was just looking around scorched on SP lol. nothing was spawning

[solemn heath]

Hi guys - Nitrado Server Owner question: I want to allow dino transfer from the Island to Scorched, but every time I try to bring a dino over (even if it's supported on the map), either the eggs disappear from the inventory in the obelisk, or the dinos disappear at server restart if I load them into the obelisk. I CANNOT find the option to allow dino transfer from other servers. Can anyone help me? Thanks if you answer. 🙂

[native wave]

looked at your ini entry...formatted ok. Before narrowing it down greatly, I would start with something you know should work. Set Entryweight and NPCsToSpawnPercentageChance to 1 and see if they spawn. If they spawn, work the numbers down to the level you want.

[languid forge]

Thank you, I will test this in the morning.

I am also wondering if it has to do with the server not owning the DLC. I have it on my Xbox but no idea how I would add to my server that I run using bat files and beacon.

[bleak ivy]

nah, they are all in the core files. they spawn regardless.
It may just not be able to spawn them through ini. some dinos in ASE were like that.

[languid forge]

I thought a couple people in this discord had them spawning on their Center map.

[distant hearth]

afaik server cant own any dlc, it just a idea they been throwing about, nothing came of it yet ....

if its in base game, it shud be spawnable ..?

[bleak ivy]

I assumed it was another one of the transfer bugs

[distant hearth]

easy test wud be just gm summon one

ah crap no that wudnt work, u wud need to own the dlc to spawn it lmao ]

[minor saddle]

It anyones server stuck on restart loop.

[bleak ivy]

no, servers have no account tied to them. if you mean the premium mods then its just certain stuff will work like how bob's tall tales does. (where you need it for tames or items )

[hidden notch]

yes its happening to me too

[bleak ivy]

I would assume they'd make it so some are just free and some require the premium version like how some of the premium mods have a free version.

[minor saddle]

Ok thanks. My character is on that map and I can't play. And it always the weekend

[wooden tartan]

Nitrado I'm guessing?

[minor saddle]

Yeah

[distant hearth]

nitrado has there own discord , a forum and customer support....
if all theres avenues fail, you can try force stop server, roll it back a full save point an try again
Be Aware this will lose some progress

i can write a guide on how to fix them if that fails but i dont explain well,it wud take me ages an most wudnt be arsed to read it

[solemn heath]

How do I find Nitrado's Discord?

I don't see it on the Website is why I ask

[native wave]

it's in the footer under support

[distant hearth]

open a web browser , type in google search
nitrado discord link
its the first thing comes up for me

[solemn heath]

ahh ok, thanks Thunder, I'll look right now

[distant hearth]

that seems easier

[solemn heath]

Got it, thank you! I was looking everywhere but there, lol!

[minor saddle]

I think there saying it one of the mods

[distant hearth]

yea thats normal , they pretty much wont support if got mods on server

[native wave]

you basically have to prove it's not the mods before getting support. I remember that from my days running my cluster there

[distant hearth]

yep same experience, id pretty much speak to customer support tell them that the issue was there hardware becuase i went through every other step, have to explain to them how to remove save files to test on clean server before they wud move it to another machine

[fallen jolt]

how to active event -pridecolors? on server

[wooden tartan]

Are you on Nitrado?

[fallen jolt]

yes

[bleak ivy]

you can't until they add the button

[fallen jolt]

sad

[distant hearth]

one of these days they will add a note that it wont work on nitrado servers in the patch notes / announcements

[wooden tartan]

Not a WC problem I would not say. Nitrado just needs a better way to add event colors.

[distant hearth]

agreed , but wc know its not gonna work for nitrado server an that prob what 75% unofficial are nitardo

[wooden tartan]

True. I have an account with them. I will shoot them a ticket and see what they say for the folks that use it.

I sent in a ticket. If they send me a reply back before the end of the month I will pass the info along.

[pliant atlas]

Yo, any good links or videos for setting up a SECOND SteamCMD ASA server? I have one set up on my pc that I run when my friends and I want to play it (otherwise it’s off). I want to set up a second PvP style server for my roommate and I. Both servers will not be running simultaneously

[bleak ivy]

just change the file location when installing it

[pliant atlas]

Maybe I will have to look up how to install again lol. I was trying to mess with it earlier and, frankly, I have no idea what I’m doing 😂

I barely got our current PvE server up and running lol

[bleak ivy]

I've only done it once too. I just use the steam client download lol. since I only need 1 of each map and the same settings.

[pliant atlas]

Yes that’s how I did it before when I set up our original Island dedi server

[bleak ivy]

you'd need to use steamCMD if you are having different settings or having 2 on the same map

[pliant atlas]

Oh no, I got booped.

I’m already using SteamCMD, so that’s no problem

[bleak ivy]

too much caps

[pliant atlas]

Yeah I was making a joke, I forgot this server boops us for caps. Lol

A joke about duking it out with my roommate for not loading the dishwasher. Headshots in ark, what else would I do? Lol

[bleak ivy]

yeah, iirc you should only need to change the install location. there is a video guide in the pins for how to do it tho.

[bleak ivy]

yeah, I saw in the logs

[pliant atlas]

Well, I’ll probably figure out how to install a new file path for SteamCMD for a PvP server and maybe be back here again when I’m finalizing the settings. I’ve not set up one for PvP so idk what to expect.

[novel slate]

so im kinda new to editing the game ini files. I am trying to get the harvest yield amount past 10. I have put the files to read only and everything looks good until i get into my single player where the amounts are 10. any suggestions?

[spring loom]

do you have ark open when changing the files?

[novel slate]

i do not. i close the game everytime

[spring loom]

not too sure then

when making the steamcmd folder then running the steamcmd to get all the files it only downloads 3 folders and says something failed does anyone know how to fix? I am following the TroubleChute tutorial

[strange summit]

Any suggestions on mating rate? Naturally dodo's seem to lay eggs quiet often but in captivity only once every 1day 2 hours irl

Thats like saying a chicken, when asked to make fertalized eggs only chooses to once a day lol

[ornate raptor]

You get this going? Your issues seems to be exactly the same as mine

[craggy loom]

is there a way to get pride colors on nitrado server?

[native wave]

you have to wait for them to implement the interface option. they do not expose the command line for editing.

[languid forge]

Is there anything I can add to my ini files to keep the server running when no one is logged in? I have been noticing that egg products pauses if no one is online.

Please @ me or reply to this. Any information is greatly appreciated!

[ionic monolith]

Is there a recent issue with CryoFridge not charging pods on the center?

[tropic matrix]

Hey, I know I'm late to this but... is there a way to retain my ceratosaurus and remove the mod from my server? Just tried this and they all disappeared. Cryopodded ones would not deploy. If they are supposed to be in the core game, then one would think their could be a way. Like the event items.

Disregard, found info. It's not possible at the moment.

[native wave]

there would have to be some way to convert the mod dinos to the base game dinos

[fervent tree]

My guess is look for another tutorial, yesterday there was somebody with a similar problem. You can't just double click steamcmd.exe and expect it to do something, it's a command line application. You need to open it with arguments or from command line for it to do something

[prisma musk]

Yo cherche duo pour ark asa en x15 pvp me mp (700h 23 ans)

[royal light]

So i got it now i have Rhynios on the Center like 5 or 7 in one Time.

ConfigAddNPCSpawnEntriesContainer=(NPCSpawnEntriesContainerClassString="DinoSpawnEntriesSwamp_C",NPCSpawnEntries=((AnEntryName="Rhynioswamp",EntryWeight=0.005,NPCsToSpawnStrings=("/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C"))),NPCSpawnLimits=((NPCClassString="/Game/PrimalEarth/Dinos/Rhyniognatha/Rhynio_Character_BP.Rhynio_Character_BP_C",MaxPercentageOfDesiredNumToAllow=0.05)))
That is the Code that work for me ``

[peak sapphire]

How long have you waited to confirm only 5-7 spawn?

[royal light]

After Wipe 10 Hours , Total number of Dinos on the Server 33000

[peak sapphire]

Cool. I’ll give your config a go. I’ve been trying to nail it down myself but the numbers were going way smaller than what it was on ASE.

[royal light]

I check it again and have 12 Rhynios on the Map , that is to much . I try it now with a DinoSpawnWeightMultipliers

[peak sapphire]

I’ll take your 12 over the 30 of have on mine. The swamp is massive on The Center so getting extremely low numbers will be a challenge.

[sharp oriole]

Hey guys good morning I have 3 servers now unofficiall and I would like to know how can I make them be able to do transfers between each other

I understand the 60 days cool down before the full transfers on the center

[celest halo]

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration#Cross-ARK_Data_Transfer

[sharp oriole]

This is for the server transfers ?

Thankyou soooo much stolen!!! 🙃🙃🙃

I’m reading the wiki @celest halo but you know how to get the clusters id ? That they’re asking for ?

[celest halo]

It's what ever you make it

All the servers need same clusterid, and they all need write/read to the same folder for the clusterdiroveride path

You will lose characters if they don't all share same folder for clusterdir

[old crown]

I did a lot of research but I couldn't get any results. The same error keeps repeating. Do you have any information about this? I get this error 5 minutes after entering the servers. lost timeout connection to host

[bleak horizon]

anyone having issues being timed out when they go into admin mode? first this has happened? 🤔

[dusty kiln]

Theres a server called ARKRG in unofficial and i dont see it anymore, so is it in development?

[jaunty vortex]

You can call your own server anything you like.

Within any rules on offensive language

[rancid hinge]

Anyone have the string for center bosses so we can raise element rates?

[sharp oriole]

The thing is how do I get a cluster id im new to this though I bought the three servers all by Nitrado and under the same circumstances

[tall plume]

I dont know if this is the right place to ask but here goes. I own a crossplay cluster unofficial, modded, crossplay. Everyone on my servers has had zero issues except for 3 players who all happen to be on the same Xbox model. I dont know jack about consoles, im on PC. They have described the issue as best they could and they are saying they are getting DC from the server constantly to the point that its unplayable. Like within minutes of logging in. I know there has to be some Xbox players out there who can rub a crystal ball and bring me to light on why this would happen? lol

[celest halo]

You make it up, and I don't use nitrado so I don't know where in there GUI you set it

[sharp oriole]

What console they use ? And this server is for Asa I believe right ?

[sharp oriole]

Oh ok thankyou anyway I’ll research on that then

@tall plume maybe you could get more help in #bobs-with-probs since here is mostly for helping people setting up the unofficial

[tall plume]

Yes ASA, SE and Center maps. What is the high end xbox called the Xbox S or something? They have 1 player who has no issues and he is on the higher end xbox the other 3 on the other xbox and they are the only ones out of everyone on my servers who have this issue. We have removed mods and everything but I think they have an issue on their end.

Ok thanks i'll ask there.

[distant hearth]

i google this,
nitrado asa cluster guide
first thing comes up is a video explaining how to do it ,
nitrado themselves also have a guide ,although for ase, its the same method

[sharp oriole]

Yes that’s what I thought the thing is that since the Xbox they have hardly will be able to run smoothly the game at the beginning of the launch of Ark Asa it was supposed to be that only ps5 Xbox series X would be able to play the game and somehow they manage to let lower consoles to play with but always having issues

[sharp oriole]

Thankyou sooo much for the info I will research on this

[distant hearth]

no problem its super easy once you know how

[tall plume]

Yea thats kind of what the other members of their group has kind of said somewhat. The 3 that are affected are blaming my server and we have troubleshoot that to death. The other members in their group are saying its their consoles. I want to help them so bad ya know but ive been on the master race since the 90s. Im no help to them.

But, they all came from official and apparently they didnt have these issues on official servers. They come to my neck of the woods and its defcon 5 right from the rip.

[sharp oriole]

It’s not at all your server problem otherwise everyone would be affected not just them 3 so technically if you want to help em you need to buy them a Xbox series x each and that’s something your not going to do lol maybe that’s what they’re trying to make you do 😂😂😂

[sharp oriole]

Well in this case something happened for them to leave official which means they were not happy with it otherwise they wouldn’t change to unofficial so I think they’re just trolling you out about it

[tall plume]

Well i dont think they are trolling, they made a very large donation to me after their first few weeks, they are (i guess im included) an older group. 50-60 ages. So as one can imagine its hit or miss when it comes to how tech savy someone can be of those ages for network or game problems.

[distant hearth]

the thing is theres basically two xboxes
series x - the one with decent hardware inside but dearer to buy
series s - inferior hardware but cheaper to buy

the series s has major issues running asa(the discord is full of people having issues since day 1) , in pc terms the series s is say a 1050 gpu
the series x is say a 2080 super gpu
im guessing at the comparison but you get the idea , but thats esssntially what it boils down too

[humble thicket]

Are there any good crossplay unofficial pvp or pve servers guys?

[sharp oriole]

Ohhhh ok ok I get your point yeah maybe it’s that didn’t thought that way 🙃

[rancid hinge]

Anyone have the string for center bosses so we can raise element rates?

[distant hearth]

ConfigOverrideSupplyCrateItems=(SupplyCrateClassString="DinoDropInventoryComponent_BossSpider_TheCenter_C"
ConfigOverrideSupplyCrateItems=(SupplyCrateClassString="DinoDropInventoryComponent_BossSpider_TheCenter_Medium_C"
"DinoDropInventoryComponent_BossGorilla_TheCenter_Hard_C"

you can figure the rest from that ?

[pliant bear]

Hi this might be a stupid question but so new to all Ark things but is single player an unofficial server? I wanted to add the ARG for Pride month, but I'm only playing single player at the moment and on xbox s console.

[distant hearth]

it is not , you have no way to activate that unfortuneately

[pliant bear]

Okayyy thank you

That sucks though

[gloomy yew]

is there a way to add the boss summoning to the center tek trasmitters maybe thru a mod or something

[magic echo]

On The Center the red drop is the island level60 correct? and red bonus is island level 60_Double correct?

[distant hearth]

beacon tells me thats incorrect
"SupplyCrate_Level60_TheCenter_C"
worth download beacon, pretty sure the drop stuff is in the free version

[magic echo]

I looked on beacon but do they have an asa side

[distant hearth]

yes it has asa

[magic echo]

I will have to take a look at that then

[distant hearth]

prehaps the asa is on paywall, i dont know as have paid version

[magic echo]

I have the paid as well

[distant hearth]

worth every penny though

[distant hearth]

asa paid is a seperate purchase to beacon ase

[magic echo]

ah ok glad to know that

[distant hearth]

they made it like $20 a year for asa , still dam cheap if u ask me though

[magic echo]

thanks so much for your assistance on this

[distant hearth]

yw

[solemn zephyr]

$10 if you have ASE Omni already 😉

[blazing kettle]

Is there a keybind that I can setup to show my characters buffs? I play with speed increase enabled so the button for this doesn't show up in the interface.

[agile summit]

How to disable cryosickness on pvp?

[distant hearth]

only way is to use a mod afaik

[agile summit]

Poor that

[minor saddle]

Hey did they fix the server restart loop yet... Just got off work?

[limber light]

One of our players logged off and when they tried to log back in, it says to create new character.

They didn’t die. They are picking the right map in our cluster. I can see their body and can see they tried to log in via the logs.

Nitrado recommended we roll back the whole cluster but is there another fix anyone knows of?

[half galleon]

How do I increase the per stat for fortitude?

[distant hearth]

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration#PlayerBaseStatMultipliers

[wise kindle]

I def wouldnt roll anything back for one player. In most cases we just tell them to create new, run some xp commands his character, put him back on his tribe and call it good. Ark does this, its how it is sometimes. Now if your whole map is experiencing this, then yes, Id roll back to before this occurred. But for one player, no.

[half galleon]

On the unofficial server I recently purchased for ASA I can't see my tribe mate on the map like you can on official is there a way to change it so I can see them?

[distant hearth]

in gameusersetting.ini
ShowMapPlayerLocation=true
if it set false change it to true, if not there at all, add it in

[ionic monolith]

any current bugs causing a cryofridge on the Center to not charge pods?

3 server cluster on Nitrado and powered cryofridges on Center will not charge empty or full pods. Other servers are fine. Ini's on all 3 seem same via Beacon...

[wooden tartan]

Yesterday I said I would reach out to Niteado for the folks that use it regarding the Pride event colors. Well I reserved a response today.

Hello, Kileaux!

Thank you for your support request. We've been recently informed about this feature. We're currently working to enable it among the game parameters.
It shall be enabled and visible among the server settings or .ini files as soon as possible.

We appreciate your understanding and patience.

I myself don't use them but it's good info to know. It for sure gets asked a lot. 🙂

[surreal grove]

anyone know where in the savefiles i can find info on a players tribe and stuff?

[surreal grove]

I just did play on the Center and went out for a few hours and when i did log in now im still in the tribe i have but my game is not registrat that im owning the build i have. its like i never excited in the game... beside i still have my character...

now i did transfer over to my other server in the cluster... the game crashed once when i did transferd over... and i join again and this time i needed to choose a starting point on the map... my base was not a place to choose... did take a safe spot to wake up on a window that said downloading character was showing and again the game crashed for me... (not the server thats there and register that my ip adress is joining) this time i when i join again i needed to create a new character....
soo i wondering... can i find savefiles for my character or id...

[fervent tree]

It's usually in the same directory as the world file, can't remember the path from the top of my head. The directory is full of *.ark files (map saves), *.arkprofile (character saves) and *.arktribe (tribe data) files. If you have regular backups you could try around with restoring the profile of you account and restarting the server or trying around with the different map versions (there are usually multiple backups that the game creates). But it's literally try & error and there is a lot you can do wrong here so be warned, definitely create additional backups before fiddling with the files.

You can also just create a new Charakter, give you XP until you are the right level and force own tames and structures. Choose your poison I guess 😅

[surreal grove]

yea its a shit show...

[languid plank]

i just had a problem with that on my unofficial for my entire tribe. we finished scorched earth and transfered back, none of us were in the tribe. i had everyone reupload. I was able to get a guy on that hadnt been on in a while, like he didnt play scorched with us, and once he was logged in, we downloaded and were back in the tribe