unofficial-setup-help

[restive knot]

ugh, dsl. hopefully you're close enough to the CO to get decent speeds...

[lucid solstice]

I have a friend it southeast asia, took them like 300nhours to download ark, 🤣

[distant hearth]

10mb d/l 0.1 u/l lolz
worst part is , the line is mostly underground an like a patch work quilt, rarely do we go more than two months without stability issues, then they come patch it up again

anyhow, its crazy how cheap old rack servers are in the uk , £200 wud get something reconditionded capable of prob 6 ark servers

[lucid solstice]

Dang, I need to move there

[modern peak]

Holaa

[tacit otter]

Is it possible to host a dedicated server for asa on console

[olive talon]

No, you'll need a pc or to rent a server from Nitrado.

[humble thicket]

anyone know a command to give someone levels and ascension? someone on my server did tek cave and lost their character

[lunar cloud]

Folks , is there a commandline option to start a map and set the ShooterGame.log location ? So you could start two maps with their own independant Shootergame\saved\logs file

[deft stone]

Good one never tought of that one, but is there any reason to keep the log file There is not that much infos into them

i think the way to do it is to use the RCON options

[lunar cloud]

i mainly like to check log files after server updates and when the instance launches. it gives a good indication if the instance is fully loaded.. generally once the cpu cores are logged, the server is loaded properly and the exe did not die (most of the time).
I also check RCON to see if the process is up and i have a way to tell if the process is listening on the udp port. The log tail is generally just more convenient

[deft stone]

im looking at beacon rn, and nothing about moving the log file

[distant hearth]

just checked through the wiki, no option to change where the file is outputted :/

[sacred kestrel]

It infact doesn't work, I have to resort to disabling raiding engrams on my pve server until items can be disabled

[next crypt]

Anyone else still unable to connect to the servers? I haven't been able to log in since yesterday!

[mighty depot]

Hello, is there a way to increase the mod storage on Xbox and PlayStation?

[olive talon]

No

[stone shore]

Is it worth trying to run a cluster on ASE Steam

[next crypt]

Servers NA are blocking connection from Brazil! 🤬

[deft stone]

i think your only option is to make multiple copy of the server and run different instance... that way you will have a log fille by instance... you need to sacrifice 8gb by instance...

[deft stone]

free, but not that easy to configure. You can try Beacon an application to help with server configuration

[stone shore]

Im not asking about configuration im asking if its wirth the money to run them like would pop be good and what not i know how to code them and all that

[deft stone]

free... what you need more?

[stone shore]

Free?

[deft stone]

The steam server isntallation is free yes

[stone shore]

I use services like nitrado and what not

I was just curious if itd be worth it like would my servers get pop and what not or just sit there dead with nobody playing ykwim

[deft stone]

there is no difference between a steam server and nitrado one... except you need to provide a computer to host it, if you have one.. you save money

[stone shore]

Like a extra pc or my main pc?

[deft stone]

i host and play on the same computer i have a good one. you need to leave it open if you want your server to be avalaible...

[stone shore]

I haven’t hosted that way

Only used host havoc or nitrado

[native wave]

There's a big difference...nitrado is ass

[lunar cloud]

depends really how long you are in for the ride. ASE numbers are way higher than ASA for few reasons. ASA lacks content right now, people are hyped to play it but either want content, or cannot run it due to system requirements, or waiting for stability, or they have finished the island already and are bored.
So you may get initial climb in population on your server if you market it well and it may sustain for quite a long time.
ASA will take time but i think in a few years as things stabilize, content is out and Unreal 5 becomes the norm among the hardware out there, then it will surpass and become the successor.

[stone shore]

I’m sure in the future ASA will take over

[lunar cloud]

I think to answer your question, ASE servers would still be viable and you will get enjoyment out of a cluster for a few years I beleive as its still active compared to ASA

[stone shore]

Ok thanks for the actual answer i was looking for

[native wave]

Assuming the devs deliver on what they have promised, yes, it should, but ASE should still be popular for a while due to the modding community and lower requirements

[lunar cloud]

if you go on Google and search for battle metrics, they have a cool website where you can search server listing. Your server is showing there 👍🏽

[main ravine]

Oh really?

I know i can connect to it im just curious if people outside my network can connect to it

[lunar cloud]

I think if it shows on battle metrics, it should be "connectable" i would imagine. The site shows the server IP and port, if you use that and run netstat command you can see if the port is reachable, but i imagine it would be

[lunar cloud]

if people say they cant see the server its likely a PEBKAC issue 😄 (problem exists between keyboard and chair)
People generally get the server filters wrong

[main ravine]

Hahaha

Yeah my son was having issues finding it, hes at his moms he might have been searching in pve, im trying to find someone to connect and verify

[lunar cloud]

I can see your server in the listing in game, its listed as PVP , had to untick show password protected servers

and also tick Show players servers

[main ravine]

But are you able to join it is the question

[lunar cloud]

yup , just reached player creation screen, its all working

[main ravine]

Niiiice! Thanks!

[deft stone]

you mean one d ten t problem? 🙂 (1d10t) 😉

[stuck orchid]

Is anyone else having problems getting access to their nitrado account. Our server has been down for 7days now and nitrado are trying to say theres nothing wrong with but cant even log into nitrado to try and sort it ourselves

[west plinth]

Wow , that sucks , hopefully they give you some credit or a free month

[pallid kestrel]

Trying to set up transfers (no items allowed) and it still says I have items in my inventory. Only items I have are the 3 in the customisation slot that are used for glass walls, Dino costumes and player costumes, that you cannot drop.

Has anyone managed to set up transfers with no items successfully?

[distant hearth]

its broken atm , all or nothing transfers

[pallid kestrel]

As in, just for items or also have to allow Dino uploads?

[distant hearth]

havent tried dinos , but items wont work

[arctic basin]

Hello, as a self-hosting host, have you ever had the server ping go up for each of the players in the game? What is the reason? I find it totally incomprehensible

[deft stone]

ping is related to multiple factors, and determine the latancy between the client and the server. The server load can be a factor...

[arctic basin]

New Build, DDR 5 5600MHz, Intell I7 12700KF ... 1GB internet speed

VM have : 1 socket 4 cores 25Gb ram ... per server like recommandation in documentation..

[distant hearth]

how much ram , how many sticks and was it stress tested at xmp speed ?

[humble thicket]

im joining my own server after updating it however, after installing all my mods it says i dont have enough storage. I've done uninstalling all mods and reinstalling still not working as well as restarting the server, xbox, and ark. Anyone know a fix?

[distant hearth]

there a way to clear cache on xbox , you try that ? google how i cant rem

[humble thicket]

i've also uninstalled and reinstalled asa, wouldn't that clear it?

[arctic basin]

2 stick DDR5 crucial pro 5600mhZ 2x48gb

i do a benchmark ark server, result : 82%

the question is, why this stupid game give me more ping for each player? 😄

[distant hearth]

good its two sticks, stress tested preferably too ensure stable

well for each player connecting more load on server

[arctic basin]

I cant i run with proxmox without GPU

[humble thicket]

looked up how to clear cache on xbox restarting now hopefully this works

cause there's lots of people on my server and i who owns it cant join it lmao

[distant hearth]

might be just have too many mods? there is a limit for consoles

[arctic basin]

same way with my old Dell T620 server on DDR3 160gb

[humble thicket]

i haven't hit the limit yet its at 8.4gb and other people on ps5 and xbox were able to join

[distant hearth]

old stuff generally aint so fussy, ddr5 can be a pain sometimes not playing well using xmp

[humble thicket]

just curious about this topic, people can host an ark server on their own computer? or is isn't it only for dedicated

or also for unofficial?

[distant hearth]

can host on computer from home , if good enough and good internet

[arctic basin]

Yesterday I activated the xmp in the bios during the installation in fact, but no I don't think that's what created the problem, my old server had the same problem, more players, more ping, any ideas?

[distant hearth]

maybe a mod is playing up? some have bad memory leaks

[arctic basin]

same without mod...

[distant hearth]

no sure then sry

[arctic basin]

i try lot of thing... this game disapoint me

already try without mod

[distant hearth]

yea its not the best of optimization , hopefully gets better in future

[humble thicket]

just resetted console to clear cache currently installing all mods again to join the server, if this doesn't work is there any other workaround?

cause other players on console were able to join

[distant hearth]

short of removing some mods or playing on pc, none that i know

[humble thicket]

thanks! if it still not working it might be due to that limit idrk lol thank you!

[sharp moat]

Is anyone else having an issue with mods? Husband made us a local non-ded server, he has no problems placing structures and items down, but I can't seem to place any modded or vanilla structures down. No error messages or anything. We reinstalled mods, took some out, restarted server, reinstalled game you name it. Nothing works. Months of work lost to it. We tested it further and the same happens to him if he joins one I make instead.

[wicked bane]

Are you always placing structure at the same place or everywhere it doesn't work

[sharp moat]

Tried it everywhere in random spots. No luck.

[wicked bane]

What are you trying to place down

[sharp moat]

Anything. Both vanilla and Modded. We've been troubleshooting for almost 2 hours now, but its been an ongoing problem for several days now.

[wicked bane]

Even a foundation you can't place down?

[sharp moat]

Nope.

[wicked bane]

Well is it only in non dedicated you can't place it down?

[sharp moat]

Well thats the weird thing, it seems only the host can place things. The joining player/s cannot.

[wicked bane]

Oh then it's maybe a setting you need to change for the other people to place it down

[sharp moat]

Any settings that would relate to that have already been turned on, even admin privileges and such. Havent found anyone else with the problem which is making it tricky to figure out whats gone wrong.

Basically singleplayer modded is fine. Anything else just wont work unless you're host.

[wicked bane]

I have no idea then

[sharp moat]

No worries, thankyou anyways 🙂

[severe bison]

can i type a command in the server console that lets the server save? without me being on the server?

[distant hearth]

no, you wud have set up an rcon connection to do that

[wise kindle]

Hey do your RCON saves work these days?

Like after the last bunch of updates.

[distant hearth]

no idea actually , i havent been playing ark or testing anything , it used to work lmao ... best i can say

[wise kindle]

Ah ok. Cant get mine to save at all. No worries.

[humble thicket]

anyone know what I can do here? I've been trying to join my own unofficial server for hours it keeps saying out of mod storage even tho i have 4 gb of storage left andall mods has already been installed. It lets me in once then kicks me out if i try to join again it will say the same thing

other players that are on different platforms were able to join

i already reduced all mods on the server, resetted my console but nothing works

[distant hearth]

only thing i can think you tried, but delete mods one by one on xbox, not using the delete all button.

then clear its cache using the unplug an hold power button trick .
restart game, join the server an let it download mods like that, if u get timeout, just rejoin till they fully download (might take mutiple goes)

failing that its the usual, delete the entire broken mess, clear the cache on console again ,
start from scratch .

Mods are buggy on pc let alone a console with no file access

[wise kindle]

Man, I'm not typing that out again

[humble thicket]

whats the ini to keep plants, rocks and trees from growing back so fast and so close to foundations

[distant hearth]

gus.ini
StructurePreventResourceRadiusMultiplier=1

is default , lower makes it respawn closer, higher further away

[humble thicket]

thank you

[jaunty vortex]

Can you not do AdminCheat saveworld after enabling cheats?

[distant hearth]

you can, but they wanted to do it whilst not logged onto the server

[jaunty vortex]

Sorry, I missed that bit

[distant hearth]

also got a bit info from lil about item filter for transfers

lil — Today at 19:25
what do you mean sort of works? im not sure as its not something I have being used atm. as far as transfers go though w/ inventory i think there is a bug currently related to cosmetics that is preventing the transfer properly when you have prevent upload/download options set.

[wise kindle]

Oof

[fluid token]

so i set this DifficultyOffset=1.2857 on ym usergame ini file to give me dinos up to 150 but im getting dinos with like lvls of 600 and stuff an idea what setting is supposed to fix that?

like im confused

[wise kindle]

Can you tell us what your goal is? Did you want only up to level 150 dinos?

[fluid token]

yea pretty much

[olive talon]

What's your difficulty itself

[distant hearth]

is a single player , or on a server?

[fluid token]

server, i only have the difficultyoffset setting on there I thought that's what set the dino levels

[olive talon]

Offset changes the spread, not the max level.

[fluid token]

OHH whats the setting then?

[olive talon]

OverrideOfficialDifficulty

5 for 150

[wise kindle]

Set DifficultyOffset=1.0 and set
OverrideOfficialDifficulty=5.0

This will give you 150 dinos.

In caves however, they will be much higher as per how the game is coded.

Also be sure to do a
Cheat Destroywilddinos
To remove the old dinos and get new ones of the correct levels to spawn.

[fluid token]

you guys are the ebst

best* thank you

[broken willow]

How come the grass.enable 0 command doesn't work ?

[deft stone]

they remove nanite command probably this one

[humble thicket]

is there a setting for certain things, like cryofridges are locked but can be accessed by other players, same with some other things, i run a pve server and never had this issue on my ASE cluster

[distant hearth]

forceallstructurelocking=true

summit like that , going off memory , double check it on the command list here ,

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration

[sturdy ledge]

I am trying to run my own server off my pc. I did huge clusters of 7-8 servers for ASE for a group of my buddies. I am now wanting to do the same with ASA, just not the clusters. I did everything the exact same, and the port still appears closed. I can't find any issue with the port, and the firewall appears to be letting connections through. When I attempt to connect to the server on the local host, all I get is a black screen, despite opening singleplayer just fine. When I attempt on a separate device on the same network, it won't connect at all. I have been trying for hours and haven't found a thing. Any ideas?

(Edit - A separate local device can now join, but I still am left with a black screen.)

[distant hearth]

asa uses only a udp port for game connections,
this can be changed using -port=xxxxx
where xxxx is the port number you wish to use.
it will default to port 7777udp if the above command is not used.

try to change the port to say 8888, with -port=8888 an forward that through router and inbound firewall.
it might help .

asa uses alot differnt commands for it server startup compared to ase, post the batch command u use if u wish an ??? the passwords /info u dont want shared an i can correct it for you or show an issue sthere might be .
or u can dig through the wiki to confirm what is know of asa server setup so far
https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration

[sturdy ledge]

start server\ShooterGame\Binaries\Win64\ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?listen?SessionName=????ServerPassword=????ServerAdminPassword=????Port=7777?QueryPort=27015?MaxPlayers=32 -NoBattlEye

It got flagged as spam in a code block.

[distant hearth]

no problem a few errors i redo an show what

start server\ShooterGame\Binaries\Win64\ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?SessionName="xxxx"?ServerPassword=xxxx?ServerAdminPassword=xxxx -winlivemaxplayers=70 -NoBattlEye

?listen not needed
?port=7777 is not needed/no longer used, defaults to udp 7777 anyway , use -port=xxxx to change it if u wish to
?queryport= is no longer used that was the steam port for server listing
?maxplayers= is now changed to -winlivemaxplayers=70

i added the quotations to sessionname ="xxxx" becuase without them any name with a space in will break the batch file

you can also do server password and the admin password in gus.ini if you wish, removing them from the start command, doesnt really matter though , both work

hpe that helps, also make sure server is on latest version , can use battlemetrics website to check the server is showing an what ip adress an port it is using

[sturdy ledge]

Alright, I will try it. Thanks for the help!

[distant hearth]

np , if still have issues im sure someone in the chat can help, i learnt it from people here helping me

[sturdy ledge]

As far as searching on battlemetrics goes, I assume I search with the Session Name?

[distant hearth]

yea just eneter its name in the search

[sturdy ledge]

Alright, well it isn't appearing, so I am not sure if it is a port-forwarding or firewall issue

[distant hearth]

sry i shud of said, give it 5 mins to show up . sometimes takes a while

[sturdy ledge]

Alright, I will. What should I do to troubleshoot if it doesn't?

[distant hearth]

only time its didnt show up for me was network issues. i dint port forward properly .

im not good with network stuff tbh
mine worked after i googled how forward my router udp port and made firewall exception

[sturdy ledge]

I am looking at my router, and I have rules for 7777,7778,27015. I know you said I don't need the 27015. Firewall has the same exceptions

[distant hearth]

oh i shud say , the server window has to show that its in tickingloop and the lil light/circle to the left turns green

double check there 7777 udp
if it doesnt work try doing it again but add -port=7779 to the batch file for startup and forward that port , 7779udp

sometimes routers can be funny about using old ports or summit i think, sry not good at networking

also double check the server version is v35.xx

[sturdy ledge]

The circle is green, I will try different ports

35.16

[distant hearth]

ya seems like a network issue to me, make sure any antivrus you might be using allows it through aswell, mcaffee, avg, norton etc

[sturdy ledge]

All my antivirus is off atm

[distant hearth]

thats never a good thing to do really tbh, better to just add the exceptions , but i guess for troubleshooting i see why one might do taht .

most of them are a scam anyway windows defender is as good as any of them

[sturdy ledge]

Yeah, I know. I just had to make sure they werent the issue before I went through makin exceptions.

Still black screening

I have 64 gigs of ram and an i9. No specs should be an issue right?

[distant hearth]

if they were u wud expect the server to crash.

does it show the incoming connection attempt on server window ?

p.s i ran one an the game on a r5 3600 an 32gb ram

[sturdy ledge]

no it does not

idk why ase was so much easier than asa

[distant hearth]

somethings blocking it or wrong then imo

you can try adding the arkascendedserver.exe as an exception to the firewall/ a/v etc too

asa is way easier, one udp port

[sturdy ledge]

It's not very happy w/ me tho

Still blackscreen with no message in console

[distant hearth]

yea i dont why , sry

its late here an i get be up early, if ure still struggling with it in like 19 hours time, dm me .
i can try help more on screen share or summit

its possible ure isp is blocking incoming connections? i know one person had to contact there isp as it wudnt allow ipv4 incoming for some weird reason

hope u mamage to get it sorted , good luck

[sturdy ledge]

I doubt it. Like 6 months ago I hosted a cluster of every ase map, so unless somethin wild happened

I assume I wont get in trouble if I repost the original issue

[distant hearth]

no none at all, its fine. will help others see over my rambling

[sturdy ledge]

I am trying to run my own server off my pc. I did huge clusters of 7-8 servers for ASE for a group of my buddies. I am now wanting to do the same with ASA, just not the clusters. I did everything the exact same, and the port still appears closed. I can't find any issue with the port, and the firewall appears to be letting connections through. When I attempt to connect to the server on the local host, all I get is a black screen, despite opening singleplayer just fine. When I attempt on a separate device on the same network, I get the same result. Either way, no message appears in the console. I have been trying for hours and haven't found a thing. Any ideas?

[lunar cloud]

have you checked your server log? can you post it here? just hide the password etc. the log is important to ensure the server is fully started and actually listening on udp port. once you post a shootergame.log, we can take a look and go from there

there can be a number of hints from the log that can indicate the process is either not running anymore, not starting correctly and therefore not listening or listing

[sturdy ledge]

I will grab it. What file directory will it be under in the server file?

[lunar cloud]

its generally under ShooterGame/Saved/Logs/ShooterGame.log
I would say check it first, then delete the content, start your server again, leave it for about 10min or so and let it re-populate that content

because it may be full of noise now from all your previous starts

[sturdy ledge]

[2024.03.10-23.47.25:602][  0]LogMemory: Platform Memory Stats for WindowsServer
[2024.03.10-23.47.25:602][  0]LogMemory: Process Physical Memory: 175.29 MB used, 198.55 MB peak
[2024.03.10-23.47.25:602][  0]LogMemory: Process Virtual Memory: 189.19 MB used, 189.19 MB peak
[2024.03.10-23.47.25:602][  0]LogMemory: Physical Memory: 14395.94 MB used,  50802.23 MB free, 65198.17 MB total
[2024.03.10-23.47.25:602][  0]LogMemory: Virtual Memory: 19787.16 MB used,  167411.02 MB free, 187198.17 MB total
[2024.03.10-23.47.25:994][  0]ARK Version: 35.16
[2024.03.10-23.47.26:114][  0]LogCFCore: SetSettings called:
{
    "defaultLanguage": "en",
    "gameId": 83374,
    "apiKey": "*****1aZe",
    "maxConcurrentInstallations": 3,
    "modsDirectory": "ShooterGame/Mods",
    "modsDirectoryMode": "CFCore",
    "userDataDirectory": "ShooterGame/ModsUserData",
    "isServer": true,
    "isServerPcOnly": false,
    "throttling":
    {
        "diskWriteBytesPerSec": 0
    },
    "premiumMods":
    {
        "publicKeyPem": "*****"
    },
    "logger":
    {
        "enabled": true,
        "history": 8,
        "maxSizeInMB": 2
    }
}
[2024.03.10-23.47.26:114][  0]LogCFCore: Warning: Couldn't load mods library from disk
[2024.03.10-23.47.26:148][  0]LogCFCore: User context not loaded from disk
[2024.03.10-23.47.26:438][  1]Primal Game Data Took 0.29 seconds
[2024.03.10-23.48.01:776][  1]Server: "<info>" has successfully started!
[2024.03.10-23.48.02:905][  1]Commandline:  TheIsland_WP?SessionName=<info>?ServerPassword=<info>?ServerAdminPassword=<info> -winlivemaxplayers=70 -NoBattlEye -port=8888
[2024.03.10-23.48.02:905][  1]Full Startup: 37.61 seconds
[2024.03.10-23.48.02:905][  1]Number of cores 10

That is what it is now.

[lunar cloud]

That looks pretty healthy to me, i had someone struggle previously because their session name had spaces and\or no quotes in the log. Does yours have any spaces ? And also i would expect quotes around that session name in the logs , ive seen some weird things where the server gets to that point but never exposes the port (we can test the port next once you have session name sorted)

For example, mine right now : Commandline: TheIsland_WP?SessionName="MyserverNameHere"?

[sturdy ledge]

there are quotes in the bat file, but it doesnt show them in the log. I don't know if that matters

[lunar cloud]

yes, If you can escape the quotes, so they are like SessionName=\"MyserverNameHere\" in your bat file.

Then they should appear with the quotes in the logs during startup

[distant hearth]

since im still awake , just to state the ? mark comes before the command . so

?sessionname="xxxx"

the only time a ? mark wud be after it is if you follow with another command that needs to start with a ?mark

[lunar cloud]

I have seen process before not fully initialise and after a whole lot of network digging, it seemed the server was not parsing the cmd arguments correctly and it just hung in the same location yours is

In bat syntax in windows, windows will often see "servernamehere" as a string and pass it to the server process as servernamehere (note it does not send the quotes to the process) To tell windows to send the full quotes, you got to escape it as \"servernamehere\" in your bat file, so it sends it as "servernamehere"

[sturdy ledge]

The line now says that. figure it aint supposed to
[2024.03.11-01.10.55:559][ 1]Commandline: "TheIsland_WP?SessionName="<Info>\?ServerPassword=<Info>?ServerAdminPassword=<Info> -winlivemaxplayers=70 -NoBattlEye -port=8888"

[lunar cloud]

You got that first quote appearing correct, the second one needs escaping too

[sturdy ledge]

wait

I see the issueI put he quote inside

[distant hearth]

i dint know this,i spent hours messing with learning how the stupid thing worked , thx for the info .
i like to learn new stuff, took me forever to figure out it just needed the quotes if u had a space in the server name lolz

[lunar cloud]

And also you dont want Commandline : " you dont want that starting quote printed

[sturdy ledge]

That is what the log shows now

[lunar cloud]

nice thats better

give it a few min, then check if its listed on battlemetrics and in game

[lunar cloud]

all good. i was in a DM session back and forth with this exact same issue before, and it just turned out the ark exe not getting the cmd args correctly from the bat file and from a dev perspective it shows that code has 0 validation, and bad error handling. They should parse and validate each input and throw error if it doesnt work internally. But in Arks case the process just sits there and never listend on the udp port.

@sturdy ledge once you have this running and it shows

[2024.03.10-21.25.55:393][  0]Number of cores x``` 

Then id recommend to use `netstat` on the machine where you run the server, to see if port 8888 as you have it is listening locally

[sturdy ledge]

will do

no 8888

so likely portforward/firewall issue right

[lunar cloud]

If you are on the same machine, can you run netstat -unl ? to list all udp ports ?

The exe needs to show as

Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State      
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:30778           0.0.0.0:*               listening

where my -port is 30778

[sturdy ledge]

It just gave me a bunch of commands, like a help page

[lunar cloud]

oh hold up , windows is slightly different

netstat -anb

[sturdy ledge]

"The requested operation requires elevation"

Do I run as admin

[distant hearth]

@lunar cloud u prob know , but i worked out you can actually start an get an asa to work just using this if the forwarding on the udp port is correct

ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP

if you run it as a batch file where the .exe is located .

it will give it some random default name that u can find in the gus.ini an run on port 7777udp
u also have to manually close the batch file window as havent used
start

they will also just use the next port automaticall unless told otherwise so say 7778 udp , if another server instance is running

[lunar cloud]

the aim here is to establish if your exe is actually listening on your 8888 port. Then once we know, then next step is port-forward troubleshooting

[distant hearth]

yea run cmd console as admin

[sturdy ledge]

I got a ton of stuff. what am I looking for here

[lunar cloud]

from the output if you are on windows (generally more bloated than linux) there will be all sorts of listing about what process is listening on what port. You want to go through that output and look for your 8888 port

[sturdy ledge]

there are a few w/ 8888

[distant hearth]

u want the one showing udp 8888

[lunar cloud]

you should see udp and 8888 , nice can you post those lines ?

[sturdy ledge]

Saw the ark thing too if that helps

 [svchost.exe]
  UDP    0.0.0.0:8888           *:*
 [ArkAscendedServer.exe]
  UDP    0.0.0.0:49668          *:*

Also a listening TCP if that helps

[distant hearth]

asa doesnt care about or use tcp

only for rcon , i shud add

[sturdy ledge]

okay, didnt know if that traffic would cause issues

[lunar cloud]

ok without us going to deep, i think it seems healthy from your startup to it listening. So to me the server itself seems ok. We need to see if that port is reachable next.
Now If you are on another machine on the same network (like if the server is in your house) , can you try see if the port is reachable from outside ?

There is a tool called nmap if you can try get that , and you can run this nmap -p <udp-port> -sU <target-ip>

[sturdy ledge]

something to download?

[lunar cloud]

It is a port scanner and will test the port is open on a particular IP. You can can first try it from a machine on the same network (via private IP ) and then from a public IP

if you google, nmap for windows, you will fing the nmap org website

There is a windows download for it

This will help indicate if the port is blocked and where it could be blocked

[distant hearth]

when i was messing with tis i found i site called ipvoid

if the port was closed it wud show as restricted i think it was , if it was open it showed as limited

scanners seem to have a hard time working out if a udp port is fully open ?

[sturdy ledge]

Nmap is installed, where do I run the command at

nmap I would assume, but where in the program

[lunar cloud]

My nmap output had a link in it, was going to print my example

 nmap -p 30778 -sU localhost
Starting Nmap 7.93 at 2024-03-11 01:34 UTC
Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1)
Host is up.
Other addresses for localhost (not scanned): ::1

PORT      STATE         SERVICE
30778/udp open|filtered unknown

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 2.02 seconds

That is example of a test from the server itself nmap -p 8888-sU localhost

You can open up a admin terminal as cmd

That will again proove the server is listening, then you can put nmap on another PC and check via local or public IP

[sturdy ledge]

Discovered open port 8888/udp on <IP>
Discovered open|filtered port 8888/udp on <IP>.res.spectrum.com (<IP>) is actually open

Assume thats what u want?

but I didnt use localhost. I just used public ip

It gave me a ton of stuff. Not totally sure what u are looking for

[lunar cloud]

from what you posted, it seems the port is publicly accessible then

yeah if you use nmap -p <PORT> -Su <publicIP> and it shows the port as open and Host is up then the port is accessible from the machine your ran it

[sturdy ledge]

which means we dont know the issue yet right

[lunar cloud]

it means we know your process is now running, its listening on the right port, and the port is accessible from where you are running the nmap tool
Its worth giving a friend the nmap command to run it from another network, just to rule out it can be accessed publicly
Is the server in your network in your house or in a cloud host somewhere ?

[sturdy ledge]

from my home router yeah

could i just enable a hotspot and run the command that way? all my friends are asleep by now

[lunar cloud]

yeah i would just run it from a public network outside of your house, since you are on the network, routers can be smart and say "hey you are already here" and route the packet internally and not hit your router firewall \ port forward

[distant hearth]

far as i can tell there isnt an issue lolz

as a test , try stop server, remove the password command from batch file , restart it post the server name here, have one of us try connect .

then once issue solved , u can re add password an we wudnt be able connect despite knowing the name

[sturdy ledge]

okay, I may have to wait until tommorow then

everybody I know is for sure out by now

[sturdy ledge]

alr

[wise kindle]

If the issue isnt connecting and the result is a black screen (I read the original issue correct yes?), kinda makes me think the server game install is bad.

Just throwing that out there.

[sturdy ledge]

start server\ShooterGame\Binaries\Win64\ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?SessionName=\"<Info>\"?ServerAdminPassword=<Info> -winlivemaxplayers=70 -NoBattlEye -port=8888

[lunar cloud]

yeah if you want its worth giving @distant hearth suggestion a try

[sturdy ledge]

That bat look right?

[lunar cloud]

we could atleast see the listing is working, it sounds like it should be as the process is listening

[sturdy ledge]

I have reinstalled it twice, maybe 3rd time is the one 🤷‍♂️

[sturdy ledge]

If that bat looks right I will dm someone the ip

or whatever u need

[distant hearth]

with the password removed just post the server name here, if its working we will find it

bat looks fine

[sturdy ledge]

Should just be CrimStar

booting now

I got the cores message

and full startup time

[distant hearth]

alr i will go get a drink an check after, 5 mins

[sturdy ledge]

alr. Thanks and sorry for the trouble

[lunar cloud]

interesting battlemetrics show two Crimstar servers, 1 offline , 1 online (password protected)

[distant hearth]

ah crap, i forgot lolz, the password is still in the ini file ,
so it shows up but password protected

[sturdy ledge]

Wack, mine still shows offline...

Why would it show up to everyone but people on my network

[lunar cloud]

i can see one in game (password protected)

you might have to check your ini for the password value you can remove it from there and reboot it

[distant hearth]

your filters are wrong is all can think, to find it , i have top filter set to all (not pve or pvp), show password protected , ticked, showplayer servers, ticked

then i searched crim

yea becuas ethe server had run an saved , it kept the password in game user setting ini .
is why i just do it from there rather than start command tbh

[sturdy ledge]

I figured it out, something on my laptops firewall is the issue, cause my pc is not connecting fine, and my laptop works when firewall is off

Idk what the fix was but I appreciate yall sm!

[distant hearth]

lolz its always summit daft in the end, glad u got it to work

@lunar cloud thx for teaching me some new tricks on the start line and about network checks 🙂

[lunar cloud]

thats all good💪🏽 , i'm always learning stuff here too. You and Snow are saints over here helping people out a ton

[distant hearth]

im just passing on what others taught me 🙂

[pure haven]

getting cli: auth: rcon: dial tcp 127.0.0.1:50112: connect: connection refused and cant start my server. is there something i can do or its my server hosting provider that should fix it?

[lunar cloud]

rcon commands will be down when your server is not running, so it sounds like its down. if you are using Nitrado and cannot start it using their UI, it sounds like you need to raise a support ticket with them

[spring cairn]

Does anyone know where the official server's ini options are located?

We've found some discrepancies with our unofficial server such as: we can surpass lvl 450 dinos, we gain xp from unclaimed babies (i.e. UnclaimedKillXPMultiplier=1), etc.

[lunar cloud]

Configs paths are hardcoded into the server and it looks in location ShooterGame/Saved/Config/WindowsServer

Make sure you add yours there and make sure they are read-only too

[jaunty vortex]

Dedicated server, unofficial. NOT SP

Stone and trees not respawning. At least some are more than 10 foundation blocks away from buildings.

Tried re-fertiliser and also reducing these values in the ini files.

GameUserSettings.ini
StructurePreventResourceRadiusMultiplier=1

Game.ini
ResourceNoReplenishRadiusPlayers=1
ResourceNoReplenishRadiusStructures=1

Flew around the island and came back, no change.

Anyone have any ideas?

[spring cairn]

Sorry, I meant where to find what the official server's ini options are?

[lunar cloud]

oh i am not sure. I generally rely mostly on default values so i personally dont set much values in my ini .
The server config page on the ark wiki https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration shows most defaults.
I am not sure though where to find Official ini where they may be overriding defaults

[spring cairn]

Yeah I can already see they are at least setting both DestroyTamesOverLevelClamp=450 and UnclaimedKillXPMultiplier=0

Since our unofficial server, we gain XP for killing baby dinos and we can surpass level 450 tamed.

[distant hearth]

official item clamping

gameusersetting.ini

[serversettings]
ClampItemStats=True

game.ini

[/script/shootergame.shootergamemode]
ItemStatClamps[1]=19800
ItemStatClamps[3]=19800

[surreal grove]

Wipe all dinos on the server both tamed and wild is that possible? And what happens if the dinos are in storage? Like the dino depot or omega storage?

[deft stone]

cheat destroywilddinos

destroy only wilds one, dont think there is a command to whipe tamed ones

cheat DestroyTribeDinos

destroyall class:string could be used. ..

[ember summit]

WAMP wamp

[blissful trout]

I have the glitch where people on my server cannot place structures form some mods. I uninstalled and reinstalled all my mods then rolled my server back but that didn’t fix it. Any ideas of what else I can do?

[wise kindle]

These steps are specific to Nitrado, and are what worked for me. Use at your own risk!

In game, make a save. Cheat saveworld. Log off.

Download and install Filezilla.

Go to Nitrado Mods and write down your modids, and remember the order they are in.

Stop your server.

Connect to your server with Filezilla. You need 4 things for this: host, username, password, port. All 4 can be found in the FTP Credentials at the bottom of your Nitrado Dashboard. Copy and paste them, then hit QuickConnect.

Once you connect in Filezilla, your PC is on the left and the server is on the right. On the left, navigate to the folder where you want to put your backup.

Copy the entire arksa folder over to a location on your PC. You should clearly see this folder in the server view - should be the only one. Just drag and drop and let the files move.

Once it's done copying over, disconnect from the FTP (9th icon - disconnect from current server), go to your Nitrado panel and click on the Re-install option on the left panel (2nd button from bottom). Confirm that yes you want to do this - it's ok, you have a backup of everything on your PC now.

Once the server is completely reinstalled, start it, then bring it back down.

Download all your mods in the same order you had them. If you still had Love Evolved installed and disabled, make sure you check that box again to disable when reinstalling your mods.

Once all mods are downloaded, start and stop your server again.

Connect to the server in FileZilla once again. If the program is still open, it's the 10th icon (reconnect to last server). Once connected, drag your arksa folder over on top of the server's version. Confirm the overwrite... there was an option to do this for all files in the queue, I selected this so I didn't have to confirm overwrite over and over again. Do what works for you, but make sure you confirm the file overwrite every time.

Once you've copied your backup over the fresh install, in the Nitrado panel - General - Settings, go to Backup section and select the first option - current savegame. Now start your server.

You should be able place modded structures once again, and all your stuff should be where you left it!

[blissful trout]

That’s a lot of steps but I don’t have any other options I don’t thinking. I will try this, thank you!

[wise kindle]

Its a nightmare but its been a horrible bug with structure mods that keeps happening.

Good Luck!

[blissful trout]

I use my laptop and cannot find FileZilla. Will another FTP client work as well?

[peak sapphire]

You should connect to FileZilla straight from Nitrado’s web interface, if not you can just download it straight from their website.

[wise kindle]

I use the external download of FileZilla. Its much easier to use and understand imo.

[deft stone]

any ftp client do the trick, filezilla is free and easy to use

[deft stone]

Just a question, can you just delete the mod folders and restart the server? because in fact this is only what it does?

[wise kindle]

Theres a full step there where you reinstall the game.

[late estuary]

Yay my ftp steps are still being shared! Happy to answer Q's too!

[wise kindle]

I got it on a notepad for reference lol.

[deft stone]

just for my knowledge, is there a way to delete the mode folder on nitrado?

i never ever tried nitrado...

[wise kindle]

yeah, you stop the map, remove the mods, SAVE. Mod folders deleted.

[late estuary]

Nitrado doesn't give access to the binary folder

[deft stone]

oh ok that explain the full bakcup/reinstall/restore steps

[late estuary]

Hence the entire workaround

[wise kindle]

Its the wonders of hosted maps. So much fun.
Its really not that bad, just extra steps. Most ppl just dont know how to do it.

Or that its the solution to corrupted structure mods really.

Its a mystery with an extreme solution.

[deft stone]

we dont know the setup, i assume, there is only one copy of the binaries for the server farms (question of saving disk space and less read access to the drive). and probably one mod folder by instance, again it could be accomplish by hardlink to only one copy of the mod by server...

or they dont bother, one copy of the binaries per instance...

[icy stone]

Would anyone happen to have a custom green drop for Asa with all kibbles? I’ve set up a server for my brother and I and I’ve pretty much set everything up to the way we want but I have no idea how to do technical stuff like that.

[deft stone]

if you do a search on this chanel there was a discussion how to setup drops one day ago

[icy stone]

Okay thank you!

[deft stone]

the discussion is full of thecnical details and is a bit long but i think you will find what you need

[icy stone]

Yeah it took me a min to finally change the stat multipliers but I’m getting there lol. I’ve always wanted my own server. I may open it up publicly if I get it running right.

[deft stone]

do you use a program call Beacon?

[icy stone]

No, I mainly just do a lot of research and trail and error. I’ve pretty much got everything boosted to where I want but it’s just the green drops I want changed now and it should be good to go.

At this rate though I’m sure I’ll keep adding stuff lol. I still need to change the multipliers in certain stats just to make tames and players less squishy but not invincible.

[severe bison]

I updated my client but there is no update for the server so can i still play on it?

[distant hearth]

no,
major versions have to match , v36.xx

[severe bison]

oh man thats annoying

[weary rock]

Is there any way to disable of lower the random playing music asking for the players on the server

[severe bison]

Update is up yayyy

[solid hound]

So, the update broke one of my servers, not updating client or primary server until this gets fixed, again. Even attempted the mod folder deletion again, no avail. Anyone else see issues?

[slate bridge]

im having issues that as soon as i load in the server it crashes lol.

[lunar cloud]

thats the mod life for ya

[solid hound]

Same LOL, I'm hoping my other is still accessible, I removed the update from the steam queue, so fingers crossed

Back to ASE I go! Still have 23 servers going strong over there LOL

[slate bridge]

Holy damm XD

[pseudo glade]

anyone elses servers crashing after the update?

[slate bridge]

yup !

[pseudo glade]

they did it again

[slate bridge]

as soon as i load our servers, it insta crashes me ad all the other guys

[pseudo glade]

mine gets to the last process to be up then get a crash

[slate bridge]

same

seen you in nekatus discord lol

[pseudo glade]

hahah cool. I wonder if its the mods or not causing it. Gonna try my test server with no mods

[slate bridge]

yeah i recon so. let me know !

[pseudo glade]

incoming 36.9 very soon lol

[slate bridge]

XD hopefully ! i aint taking any mods off. the guys would kill me lol

[valid dagger]

yep... again......

[frigid vine]

Server Boot says: "No spawn additional explorer notes to spawn" anyone saw already explorer notes? 😄

[quiet trellis]

major update without breaking the servers?! Unheard of

[slate bridge]

Guess thats ark done for the day lo l

[pseudo glade]

its mods causing the issue. works with no mods

[valid dagger]

correct

[slate bridge]

poor modders going to have a field day

[pseudo glade]

i know. Im gonna start adding each mod 1 by 1 to see which one is causing it

[terse grail]

In all fairness I have never in all the years I've played ark and I've played since the original ark beta have I seen the owners or Devs once apologise , if I'm correct the maps on here are the same as the original yet they have the same issues, I'm sorry but this game could be amazing if it was owned by square enix

[jaunty vortex]

put Love Ascended back on as passive, I think it will start then

[smoky pulsar]

In my testing, it was the shiny mod that stopped my servers from starting. i'm not about to remove shiny though.

[frigid vine]

@proven prawn custom cosmetic mods do not load correctly after the major update. Some whitelisted mods are broken now (disappear)

[wise kindle]

Is appears removing Shiny dinos does fix alot of the server loops.

[slate bridge]

old patch soon

[wise kindle]

yeppers, and I'm glad. I have a popular map that really likes crashing ppl right back off of it lol.

[jaunty vortex]

Looks like all the LA skins, etc are gone from my server. The mod seems to load in as active.

[prime condor]

How will users be able to revert to the previous build?

[quiet trellis]

Arkitect
Admin panel
Alfa ocean playform
Moros indom
Cliffans wardrobe
Gigantraptor

One of these is the issue
These are the mods I have in common with other server owners that have the same issue with the boot loop

[wise kindle]

restart again, it should pick it up when its out, if its out anyway

[prime condor]

but 35.16 servers won't need to do anything right?

[wise kindle]

tbh I dunno. Probably not? I dont know that its a full revert or partial.

[late estuary]

Anyone else crashing upon load in on Xbox now after updating server and Xbox versions?

[wise kindle]

I have one map that is doing that, crashes the client. I have several others that are fine tho. All with the same mods.

[late estuary]

Ah looks like there's an announcement that they're rolling back from 36.8 to try and stop the crashing

[prime condor]

I'm pretty sure they are gonna release another patch for 36.4, which is the one they're deploying for officials

[late estuary]

Or something like that

[wise kindle]

yeah I'm confused. My whole cluster is on 36.8 right now. No idea when the fix is coming out.

[slate bridge]

Is the old patch out now ?

[prime condor]

no, not for servers

[late estuary]

Does WC PTS or no?

Like I feel they should test this stuff more

[distant hearth]

#announcements

We are working on a fix for unofficials who are currently on version 36.8

they prob dont know how sort it lolz

[late estuary]

Probably preaching to the choir and putting it lightly. People love to hate WC

So now we wait for the next server patch, for unofficial

[hardy sandal]

My servers are just in a restart loop. This happens every update

[bitter drum]

heya, anyone using a virtual dedicated server host, not nitrado, but like a virtual PC set up for their Ark servers? If so, coudl you throw me a few links for research purposes?

[prime condor]

i think its out

[native stag]

this game is a real pain

every patch same fck happens

[vernal forge]

how do you set tick speed to the same as official servers? on singleplayer, hp/stam/food/water drops extremely fast, and regens extremely fast. is there a way to set it to the same as official?

[pseudo glade]

Why do they need to fix something that should have been tested properly to begin with.

[quiet trellis]

because that's how wc works

since the release of ASE

[prime condor]

do unoficials servers on 35.16 need to update to the current server build available now?

[tepid berry]

No.

[worldly lily]

New one is 36.8 but the update is causing a restart loop again

[tepid berry]

My server doesn't restart loop -- my game crashes out upon logging into the new server version

[worldly lily]

Our servers don't show up and is restarting upon a refresh.

[tepid berry]

Oh you're using Nitrado or something?

[indigo bay]

hope they get it fixed we were tamming two bears aat once

[pseudo glade]

Crickets lol. How long does it take to revise a patch

[left kayak]

I can find the server I play on unofficial says not found after the update this normal ??

[green loom]

Mine does the same. Doing a rollback hasn't helped whatsoever either.

[lone lodge]

My servers were not showing up and i updated again, now it crashes on boot... Not Nitrado.

[jade folio]

They are working on it

See #announcements

[indigo bay]

hope its fixed soon i love me some ark

[west plinth]

Apply for a job

[brisk topaz]

Wildclown

[unkempt wind]

Don’t update your servers right now. If you have it looks like your players are stuck crashing every time they join.

[lone lodge]

Yea agreed. I have updated 2, 1 doesn't load and the other doesn't show. So ill try again in the morning. My players have played ark for a very long time. They will get it.

[west plinth]

Apply

[tepid berry]

Same situation I'm in; I just had to announce to my players that I was taking the server down to avoid any further problems. I'll watch the announcements channel like a hawk and update when it looks safe again.

[wise kindle]

Take it to dms ffs.

[west plinth]

What is ffs? I said 5 words in total

[tepid berry]

Doesn't Nitrado have its own customer support people should be using? I thought this channel was for people running their own unofficial servers.

[wise kindle]

They do and this is for unofficial setup help. Emotions run deep.

[lone lodge]

Hey 🙂 good to see you. My problem seems to be a mod on my server. took off all and added them one at a time. It may need to update with the newest update. Thought I would pass the info along so people can check as well. Of course in my case it has to be the one people love:P Sooo They need to wait till its updated.

[sick heron]

Your shitty dev team is killing my cluster wildcard

[sick heron]

Shouldn't have to do any of that if wildcard just did their job properly. 9 years and they still can't get it right

[wise kindle]

General chat is this way -> #general

[tepid berry]

Mind letting us all know which particular one it turned out to be?

[sick heron]

This is a place for unofficial banter mate sit down speak when spoken to

[wise kindle]

This is for unofficial help. Do keep that in mind.

[lone lodge]

On my server it was Project Zodiac.

[wise kindle]

Btw the Shiny mod seems to be one causing issues. Or at least one of them.

Tho in general theres game bugs that were introduced, so yeah, need to wait for the update.

[lone lodge]

Agreed. I dont have shineys but do love that mod:)

[wise kindle]

I couldnt run that one. They all look the same so we went with more variety.

[tepid berry]

I'm using Super Cryo Storage, Gigantoraptor, Custom Dino Levels, Klingers Additional Rustic, Super Spyglass, and one of them is still causing it - but I can't get rid of any of them without destroying a lot of stuff.

[wise kindle]

Is that the Klingers building or cosmetic?

[tepid berry]

The building, not the cosmetic.

[wise kindle]

eww, that one caused issues last time. Might be that one again.

[lone lodge]

we use Super Cryo also, and gigantoraptor. none of your others

[west plinth]

I have two servers running and they are not set the same but one I can load into and the other I cannot , do you happen to know what mod was breaking your game?

[tepid berry]

He was saying Project Zodiac

[lone lodge]

I could load all my mods except the Project Zodiac with the cute Whelplings

[west plinth]

Oh okay I saw that but didn't understand that was the mod , thanks

[lone lodge]

I did get one up and running, the other one nope. (Project Zodiac is no so far) however, I suggest if you are running your own server. make a test start.bat, and then load each of your mods and see if you can figure it out for sure.

[timber stirrup]

it's not consistent for mine. I can connect to my servers without issue. other people on my servers, not so lucky. Some can some can't it seems.

[wise kindle]

Same. And I can connect just fine to some maps and disconnect with others. My players see the same thing.

Best to just shutdown till the update comes out to prevent issues.

[timber stirrup]

yup. Decided not to take chances

[west plinth]

That is what I did, I don't want to make any chances until the devs make theirs

[wise kindle]

I dont need maps corrupting themselves. Its fully random.

[lone lodge]

Ok all have a good night/day. Thank you WC for working on it. See you at the next Update:)

[haughty badger]

Just did the update and now my servers keep crashing. They go thru normal boot and then the server just closes out. Any ideas what would cause this?

[lone lodge]

Read up at the last 20+ posts:P

[wise kindle]

#patch-notes

Best to shutdown and wait for the update.

[late estuary]

Sounds like its on the way

[tepid berry]

So I just updated one of my olderish servers to figure that out -- it updated to 36.4 like it should have -- and seems to boot up and function fine.

So it looks like the problem is only -- if you updated before the rollback, and got 36.8; you'll have problems.

I just tested rolling back to 36.4 by basically making a new copy of the server and reinstalling all the save data. Doesn't look like that's a solution for unofficials either. So for unofficials, 36.4 and 36.8 are both borked - at least in part.

[dull apex]

There's also a problem with the Svaralfheim map that needs fixing before servers can load, so that may be an additional factor

[tepid berry]

I also just did the thing that others suggested -- I cleaned out my mods: Klinger's Additional Rustic was causing my client crashes.

[indigo bay]

When y’all think they might have the issue sorted?

[deep laurel]

still crashing public version fyi, server boots up but client crashes when joining.

36.4

Even reverting to older server backup before the 36.8 update and updating again and client still crashes when joining.

[cyan cloak]

Any news when we will be getting unoffical back up and going? @proven prawn

[wise kindle]

Nothing yet really.

[tepid berry]

I got my unofficial back up and running by downgrading it, it's quite a manual process though.

[winter bane]

i Have 0 issue with the last patch on my server

[tepid berry]

That's because they rolled it back.

If you updated after they rolled the 36.8 patch back, in most instances, you should be okay.

[winter bane]

well im running the "Incident Patch"

[tepid berry]

36.8 did break a mod for me, which was causing clients to crash upon logging in.

Klingers Additional Rustic; in fact - a specific piece of it, the rustic forge, looks to be the issue

[winter bane]

ok i was about to ask for the mod

[indigo bay]

So we gotta remove the mod and downgrade?

[deep flower]

Servers still crashing after latest update

[restive knot]

server noob question... to do a rollback, I just rename TheIsland_WP_[time stamp].ark to TheIsland_WP.ark?

[sick heron]

36.8 is broken and so is 36.4 now. What does that tell you?
It's nitrado not wildcard. Remember who owes who 4mil, nitrado won't take blame for anything when they have their little pet snail there with them

[wise kindle]

Seems to work. I got the update going on my maps. I can log into most of them. I think its a render issue like an old baug from back in the day. I'm going to try a couple things to get around it.

[deep flower]

Klinger's Additional Rustic has a cosmetic mod which is much more stable then his main mod.

[sick heron]

No he's talking shit it still doesn't work. He doesn't know what the issue is he's just pulling at straws

[wise kindle]

It looks like a render issue. Meaning if you are Dc'ing on login, you need to be killed and respawn to get around it. Its like the old bug from back when Extinction came out.

[deep laurel]

Do you read what you write man?

[indigo bay]

I just got the game and have 10 hours and my friends got a server so we just trying to play ya know

[wise kindle]

yep, what isnt clear?

[wise kindle]

Oof yeah I feel you. Kind of a bad time right now lol. This wasnt a good update.

[deep laurel]

How's a person supposed to kill themselves if the game crashes?

[wise kindle]

Some people can log in, some cannot.

Tribemates, admins and others can help you get there. Thats all i got man. I dont make the rules.

If you have a case where NO ONE can log in, then I dunno. Might be a different issue.

[indigo bay]

Yeah we love the game but damn bad update for are first one hope I can play tomorrow

[wise kindle]

If the Klinger or Shiny mod is giving you issues, shutdown the map, remove the mod, SAVE and then wait a good 5 minutes before restarting.
It should pick up the new update.
Hopefully it lets you log in thereafter.

[indigo bay]

I’ll check and see what mods we got I can’t remember tbh

[deep laurel]

Sounds about right with the patch issues, no idea what that has to do with nitrado lol. Cheers will wait for them to update again...

[cyan cloak]

Any word on unofficial?

[wise kindle]

Update is out but it is still causing issues. Thats about it.

[cyan cloak]

Bruh wildcard makes me wanna tie a nuse

Still auto crashing?

[deep laurel]

looks like same error a lot of others are getting. Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x000000000000000f

[wise kindle]

It takes ALOT to get spawned in after the update. I think its a render issue but havent figured it out just yet.

[wise kindle]

I got this the first time, then it let me in but kicked me before my base could finish rendering in. It really struggled. But Im not getting the error again. I just get a little further with each login, render wise.

[deep flower]

Wait how come its Nitrado? Just curious

I hate Nitrado FYI lol

[cyan cloak]

Is there an update for servers yet?

I heard there was is it working?

[deep flower]

Nope

[sick heron]

I wrote that same message on nitrado main page and they silenced me for 24 hours. 😂

[high forge]

If your hosting more than one server it's a lot cheaper to rent a VPS to host multiple servers, I left nitrado 1 month ago now, best thing I did.

[tepid berry]

This is the same error I was getting when Klinger's Rustic was trying to render in the rustic forge. You've got a mod that's crashing your client.

[deep laurel]

ty will wait for updates. thank you. Not using that mod but guess it could be another then causing the issue. either way never happened before this update.

[broken willow]

Should I wait to start my nitrado server until a patch? I haven't started it since update and don't want to like break the world

No clue what is going on exactly with the bugs

[hollow robin]

nothing they havint fixed the shit yet its pointless to wait might as well ry again tomorrow

maby then is will b fixed lmfao not

[dull apex]

I've been able to get my server running again. I made a backup first, then started it without mods. It was fine. Added one mod at a time, starting and stopping, until I found the mod that was crashing my server. In my case, it was the Shiny Dinos mod.

[hollow robin]

ya that mod is good for that it doesint get updated that often

i stopped using it after 6 times it did just that to my server

[dull apex]

After I figured out which mod was crashing it, I restored the .ark file from the backup and all is well.

[sweet imp]

What mods so far are the culprits other than shiny dino

[wise kindle]

Klingers building mod is also doing it

[smoky pecan]

NOH

[wicked vigil]

Hopped in here to see if everyone was having similar issues as my server. Looks to be the case. lol. My community is pretty upset...hopefully it gets figured out soon. Looks like you all are saying Shiny/Klingers? I only have 1 of the 2.

[smoky pecan]

I dont wanna drop Klingers ;-;

[wise kindle]

Dont blame me man. People remove the mod and suddenly the issue is gone.

[smoky pecan]

WElp. Time to try it.

[deep laurel]

i dont have that mod and its doing it. So looks like its several mods they broke with this update.

[sweet imp]

Has to be other mods as well

[wise kindle]

It wont be just one or two mods. We just dont know them all yet.

[wicked vigil]

Copy.

This blows. The risks of running a modded server though. lol

[smoky pecan]

^

[rigid oak]

Shines are 100% broken. ATM. Servers will not fully boot. However the client crashes are a wild card issue and are happening to people on no mod servers and single player

[hollow robin]

ya im not bothering with anything untill tomorrow night with wild card messing shit up and only puting a bandaid on it for now it will mess up again and the worst part is i just finaly got my server back going after having to reinstall it due to nitrado being dumb and not fixing things the right way now this after only 2 days my players are pissed and who gets the fack about it not nitrado not wild card but us server owners we ave to deal with the bull from the players and wild card wonders y they have lost as many players as they have

[wicked vigil]

Being 31 mods deep on my server (All cosmetic, building, dino mods) means I cant exactly uninstall mods for trial and error. Especially with having a larger community on my server. We just have to ride this one out until fixes pop in.

[smoky pecan]

32 deep myself.

[rigid oak]

If you’re stuck in boot loop. And you have shiny it’s a safe bet. I had 5 servers in my cluster 30 mods. It’s the only one I needed to remove to restore all 5. However the client crashes are still going strong lol

[smoky pecan]

I just ripped klingers in hopes

My issue is only* client crashes. Havent had server crashes or bootloops

[deep laurel]

26 deep and ppl wonder why i hesitate in adding more when they ask.

[wicked vigil]

It's the risk you take when modding. I'm not surprised, nor upset. I just feel bad for my community. Makes me feel like a failure of a host, even though its out of my control. lol

[cyan cloak]

Any news gents

[rigid oak]

Yup still broken lol

[sweet imp]

Still bootlooping

[cyan cloak]

Bro you’re doing the best you can that’s all you can do

[deep laurel]

i hear you , i still have an older 16 server ASE cluster running. This shit has happened a lot over the years. Thank god for backups smh lol 🙂 We shall see how this turns out. I guess i got time to play a bit of palworld then.

[smoky pecan]

Prob gonna Helldive tonight.

[icy stone]

You guys are legit. I removed klinger and shiny Dino’s and it’s finally up again.

[wicked vigil]

Just be careful. It seems like other mods, once rendered in when you are flying around the map, will make you crash and enter the cycle. Thats the reports I am getting from people in my server.

[ruby bear]

i removed Super Cryo Storage, And Shiny dinos, those were making my server restart loop

[rigid oak]

It can happen flying around with out modded structures I have tested on a no mod test map still crashed with the same error

[wicked vigil]

What's weird, is my servers last server backup is March 7th, and March 8th, and nothing from then to today. Not sure why these last 3 days had no backups...

[wicked vigil]

Damn.

[deep laurel]

like server side or ark backups?

[wicked vigil]

Server backups in Nitrado.

[rigid oak]

Nitrado? Did you do a full restore at some point today?

[icy stone]

I know I had a nice little roll back when I finally got back in. I’m not too worried about it messing up because I’m on like day 2 lol.

[deep laurel]

no idea how nitrado works. I dont use it. wish i could help.

[wicked vigil]

Full restore? No. I was going to try a server restore to yesterday, March 10th. But for some reason my last one was March 8th. Interally, I refuse to give my community a 3 day roll back lol

[rigid oak]

Good practice is if you can get a map live if you can’t log in personally you can rcon saveworld before you restart

[smoky pecan]

Day 124 myself. I do NOT want a rollback or a world restart.

[smoky pecan]

Know of any good RCON softs?

[wicked vigil]

Game day: 843 on my server. With a good community. So I cant do anything crazy like big roll backs, or map wipes. lol Or remove building mods for that matter...

[deep laurel]

ArkRcon

[smoky pecan]

Mine is just a small lil server with friends and such. Literally 3 people play

[rigid oak]

Rcon is just basically telnet. There is all kinds of programs that will work. I have something I made to rcon all my maps

[deep laurel]

well we wait for public version now 😄

[smoky pecan]

Aye, apparent update to steam clients??

[deep laurel]

ARKTools discord , tool called ArkRcon ill send you an invite if you want

[icy stone]

It wasn’t a horrible roll back. Maybe a few minutes. I wouldn’t risk it though I’m already seeing strange stuff with stacking.

[smoky pecan]

Would be lovely

[wicked vigil]

Yeah, hopefully it fixes some things lol

[smoky pecan]

AS soon as steam actaully pushes the update lmao

[wicked vigil]

You guys all talking about this Arktools and RCON stuff....all beyond me. I am still a rookie server owner. Learning a lot with this being the first server I have ever hosted.

[smoky pecan]

RCON is RemoteCONsol

[wicked vigil]

You guys host dedicated through your PC's or though Nitrado?

[smoky pecan]

Allows to send commands without being in game or having direct access to the console

[wicked vigil]

Ahh, gotcha.

[deep laurel]

send you a dm

[smoky pecan]

My dedi is Nitrado hosted. I'll self host when I able to get a server rack setup. But im not doing that on a 3rd floor apartment

[wise kindle]

RCON can be used by any host, just an FYI. Its really helpful for a variety of things.

[rigid oak]

It’s a must if you’re the only one that codes and you can’t be at your pc 24/7. I fix so much crap from my phone anymore lol

[deep laurel]

dedicated server hardware

[rigid oak]

Dedi

[icy stone]

So I’m assuming it’s an app like the nitrado app?

[wise kindle]

Websites like Battlemetrics are the more common RCON hosts.

[wicked vigil]

I have a few Xbox members on my server asking for me to connect a discord bot for in-game Chat. That way Global Game chat also comes to a discord channel since Xbox censors everything. That way they can type in global, through discord. Still working on figuring that out...lmao

[deep laurel]

i use one to talk from game to discord and discord to game, a plugin with ark api.

[wicked vigil]

I do a lot of Server side resets and work from my real life job on my phone when members message me that the server is having issues haha

[icy stone]

That’s too advanced for me 🤣 I thought it was simpler lol

[haughty badger]

Downloaded the patch and server still crashing on boot

[wicked vigil]

Thats what I need to do, I just have no idea how through Nitrado. Never dealt with Plugins and other more advanced stuff like that. (Advanced to me, only been into server hosting for about 2 months lol)

[smoky pecan]

my client is still 36.4 ;-;

[deep laurel]

yeah not sure if you can run ark api on nitrado

There is a bot but i think that chat feature is like a paid level 3

[wise kindle]

Its not terrible and you can try it for free for 7 days. Its kinda nice to just hit a button to do a wild dino wipe, send a global message or kick a player.

[sick heron]

You can do all of that through the admin panel no need for 3rd party

[icy stone]

Ahh okay yeah that’s sounds super useful. I may open my server up publicly one day. I’m slowly learning.

[wicked vigil]

Off topic, any way to set up an automatic dino wipe once every 24 hours through Nitrado?

[humble thicket]

anyone still having issues? server is up for me but players on my server keeps crashing upon joining some are not having any issues at all

[wise kindle]

Yeah, you dont even have to log in. Its nice when you have a dozen maps to keep track of.

[wicked vigil]

Ocean cave spawns on my server, and the 50/50 glitch are OUT OF CONTROL...lol

[haughty badger]

Mine still won't make it thru boot up

I think shiny dinos is where it's crashing for me currently

[rigid oak]

You have shines? lol

[humble thicket]

i removed the shiny mod and it started working fine but yeah the crashes on players

[rigid oak]

Patch day is basically wild card roulette but the dice is loaded

[wise kindle]

For real

[crystal storm]

Does anyone know how to get to get better saddles then primitive for the Dino’s from the additions mod ?

[haughty badger]

So true

[wise kindle]

I have 11 maps and 1 map will NOT let me log into it lol. All have the same mods too. So weird.

[icy stone]

I only have the Draco mods. Got rid of the shiny and klinger and it’s finally working.

[wise kindle]

Draconic?

[icy stone]

Well I def appreciate the info. Hopefully I find someone knowledgeable if I ever do open it up. Right now it’s me and my brother lol.

[icy stone]

Yes the 3 Draconic mods.

[smoky pecan]

3?

[wise kindle]

you can dm me if needed. Happy to help.

[icy stone]

I’m including the ocean dragon lol

[wise kindle]

Ah ty, I was gonna put that on my event map and was scared for a second lol.

[humble thicket]

with the draconic mods it wasnt starting or it starts but plaers keot getting kicked out?

[smoky pecan]

Ah, I only have Draconic Chronicles and DC: Legends

along side 30 other mods.

[icy stone]

No those are fine. I removed shiny and klinger and everything is fine so far but it’s just me so idk if that really helps

[humble thicket]

thank you because for me after shiny everything went well but nw players are having issues joining

some kept getting kicked or game crashing

[smoky pecan]

Glad I am not having server related issues and only client crashes. Server runs fine. I just have client crash on log in. Not sure what the cause is though.

[wise kindle]

I'm waiting for the 36.11 update, hoping that fixes my other map.

[icy stone]

Yeah the inferno dragons are super op though. I’m working on increasing player and tame stats to deal with it

[wise kindle]

Im just going to put it on a month long event map with a fantasy theme. People like imbalance but only for a little while. Keeps the game fresh.

[deep laurel]

are there any asa event maps out yet?

[dull apex]

I saw another person mention that the Love Evolved mod is causing issues

[icy stone]

Yeah the only reason I mention it is because I’ve only increased weight and allowed speed stats. A bred pteradon could not out run it and died in like 3 hits lol.

[haughty badger]

I noticed that when I did the update it now shows as 36.4 not 36.11 like the patch notes show. Maybe there's another one coming?!?

[wise kindle]

36.11 isnt released to unofficials just yet.

[smoky pecan]

Kinda cringe

[wise kindle]

Well it was just announced and they always test it on official before throwing it at us.

[smoky pecan]

Wonder if theyre gonna push a client update to us who CLIENT crash and not server crash

[smoky pecan]

Noh. WE can be the QA plz

[wise kindle]

oh hell no lol. I dont want to test nothing else from WC without a contract and a salary.

[humble thicket]

client crash is it like when players crashes when joining the server? sorry new to this but the server crash for me got fixed after uninstalling shint mods

[smoky pecan]

Yeah

[wise kindle]

yeah Client crash means only the player crashes. Server crash is when the map goes down.

[smoky pecan]

Server crash would be the whole server crashing. Client is the local client crashing when joining the server

[smoky pecan]

We should be able to check a box to take the update right away. I have a backup of my server locally on my PC from 35.16

[humble thicket]

thanks a lot! yeah i fixed the server crashes after removing shiny but now players are having client crashes most of them too

[wicked vigil]

Same. Most of us are it seems. Looks like we all have to just sit on our thumbs for now.

[smoky pecan]

I pulled my server map and tested it locally and still instant crash. So i def do not think it is server related for me and my players.

Im glad I tinkered with my INI for the Resource Gatherers mod and allow them to stock up to 10K of the resource they gather. This way this downtown for client end isnt completely wasted

[wise kindle]

You have never noticed the number of times that official has gotten taken down by updates? I dont want to sign up for that lol. Hell no. Thats not what I pay for. I pay for uptime. Not to be a guinea pig.
Thats for Official maps to do.

[smoky pecan]

Lemme rephrase.

Lemme be like. "Yes I want to pull this one update instantly to test" and Nitrado can be like "Heres a backup of the server version before the patch" then we download the patch and run it

[humble thicket]

worked for me after updating 2 mods unfortunately to some still having client issues, hopefully wc fixes this

[smoky pecan]

Much akin to I can opt in to an android beta update.

[sick heron]

Anyone on ps5 actually crashing and getting an error with the game? Or is it just disconnect?

[wise kindle]

Nitrado cant keep up with our tickets as is. They wont be able to man the issue tickets from that.

[icy stone]

Anyone else not able to see sand dragons on the series s with the draconic mod? I can see them on the series x

[wise kindle]

Same, just have some client crashes. Hoping this update fixes it.

[wise kindle]

That might be a new bug, report it in the Draconic discord. Or they may know about it and have a fix.

[smoky pecan]

AS I said, it should be opt in/opt out. I can opt into an android beta update, backing up my current android version myself, then update to the beta. If I wish to opt out and return to my stable version, I restore my backup and opt out.

[wise kindle]

Sure but, opt in or out. Your issues wont get looked at for days. Nitrado doesnt have the manpower. I dont see that as an advantage at all. Just how I feel.

[humble thicket]

new update coming?

hopefuly they tested it this time lool

[wise kindle]

36.11 is rolling out. Will take abit as it goes thru the official maps first then gets released to us typically. Just watch for it I guess.

[smoky pecan]

servers have a new 36.11 patch. But we dunno if itll help with client related issues. We may need a client update as well

[icy stone]

Alright will do. It was even running into the player and moving them but they couldn’t see it. This is also before this stuff so it’s not related to the updates.

[wise kindle]

yeah hit them up. Ave's discord is usually pretty helpful. They may know a fix or are working on one for it.

[humble thicket]

it might be that ark (Game) update causing these client issues?

[smoky pecan]

For those of us only having client related issues, its possible. My server runs fine without loops or anything. My client crashes on log into my server. Tested my server world locally and still crashes on load as well. We cant be certain if its client related or server related for the local client crash

[rigid oak]

It does it in single player. That would suggest client side issue to me

[deep laurel]

twiddles thumbs waiting for public branch

[smoky pecan]

They can just make it a "We won't support this for you until it goes live to all unofficial servers" and call it good.

[icy stone]

I’m about to call the president of ark and have this fixed soon

[wise kindle]

I have no idea what you mean.

But I'm off to sleep.

[smoky pecan]

Nini

[dull apex]

Yeah, got the server up but now my client crashed when I went to a certain spot on the map and now it crashes every time I try to log in.

[rigid oak]

Welcome to the waist lands

[smoky pecan]

Welcome to waiting for updates from mods/WC

[dull apex]

Yup.

[rigid oak]

Mod updates are going to be a while for validation

[dull apex]

I was walking along, looking at an oddly colored Dippy, and then I got an exception error. I'm pretty sure the Dippy did not push me offline, lol

[smoky pecan]

Validation should only affect updates pushes to consoles ;-;

[dull apex]

The server was still running so I'm going with a client end problem for this one.

[smoky pecan]

Gimmie workshop mods back plz

[humble thicket]

still waiting for wc as well to get this fixed haha server issue is fixed for me but some players on my server are having client issues they tried everything from uninstalling reinstalling mods to even updating their graphic drivers

[rigid oak]

Will affect any mod tagged as cross play

[dull apex]

I don't envy WC though. I used to do QA at a game company a looooong time ago and I remember chaos nights like these where we stayed until 4am.

[sick heron]

Are people getting CE-108255-1 or is it just me?

[sick heron]

Mine is doing the same thing

[smoky pecan]

36.11 is live for unofficials now. Downloaded and still client crash on my end. Tried

[humble thicket]

there is? it doesnt show on nitrado that its available tho do i just restart?

[smoky pecan]

Its def on Unofficial. Restart should download the 36.11

[halcyon aspen]

update didnt fix anything

[humble thicket]

thank you ill go restart it now

[smoky pecan]

Yep. I have client end issues. Client crashes on my end not my server

[humble thicket]

still client issues even after 36.11? 😭

[smoky pecan]

Client issues will most likely need a cliend update to fix.

[humble thicket]

like the game itself to update right?

[smoky pecan]

Yep

Cause my server has ran fine since the initial 36.4 update it recieved. Only issues my server and its members are having are client related crashes. Cause those crashes don't produce errors in the server logs at all. The server just see's it as a disconnect.

[humble thicket]

same here nothing on logs hopefully they do release an update its frustrating lots of people been waiting for hours for the fix and they kept giving us hopes but then after 36.4 client issues, then again now after 36.11

[wispy yarrow]

Just got in on my Nerftrado, didnt have issues with my mods but it's just gigachook, luv assended and one of the incubator mods that dont work. I am surprised how much I've grown since Sunday, at least half a meter. What those crazy wc peeps put in the swamp water i use to cook my soup!?

[humble thicket]

I restarted but still at 36.4 nitrado weird

it also dont show any update is available on nitrado

[lost gust]

Personally i think its an issue with old player models - Been testing for the last 2 hours and all the crashes I've seen are "actor" related when trying to render existing player models.
If you try and join a random unofficial on 36.11, it will load instantly and allow you to make a new character with no issue.

[wispy yarrow]

I was a wee gnome before and I didnt crash but most likely thats why I am now 6.4

[devout rampart]

Wait, my server just complete the rollback to the v. 36.11 but i didn't re-add Valentine mod...stuffs lost? i'm at work, i can't check.

@proven prawn could you clarify if we need to re-add Valentine mod after rolling back? Thanks a lot.

[haughty badger]

Downloaded 34.11 and server still crashes when it gets to shiny dinos mod

[smoky pecan]

Shiny is gonna need to update.

[humble thicket]

36.11 players on my server still crashes but me

[smoky pecan]

Some others have said Klingers build mods are also causing problems, but I have them and have zero SERVER*** issues. I only have client issues.

[humble thicket]

only issue for me is Shiny removed it and got out of the loop

[smoky pecan]

Yep. So now we wait for a fix for client crashes

[humble thicket]

36.11 what did it even do lol

[devout rampart]

anyone has some clue?

[simple ruin]

im running 36.4 , had to install love evolved back in and run as a passive mod , then roll back server database to a save before the update (at 5.50am was the save time for me before my server auto updated ) seem to work for me

[humble thicket]

this fixed the client issue?

[simple ruin]

i also have to remove 1 RP Deco mod , and yes server is stable and players are on , no issue and love evolved gear is back

[high forge]

anyone notice there server memory has increased by like 3gb since updates ?

[fiery jackal]

so?

[humble thicket]

server just restarted again for some reason after being online for long hopefully not another loop

[high forge]

nice informed reply.

[humble thicket]

I haven't checked ill take a look now

still the same for me @high forge

[smoky pecan]

ooo Lucky mofkr. I cant even get in game. I crash in SP. And I crash when I try to join my server. Its a client crash ;-;

[high forge]

Yeah i just updated to .11 and its back to normal 😄

[lost gust]

So does anyone have an server running with klinger active still and can play or klinger causing issues?

[smoky pecan]

I tested my server w/o klinger by downloading the world and trying to load it in SP. I crash instantly both with and W/O klinger installed.

[humble thicket]

lol i should've checked before then haha

[smoky pecan]

The server runs fine and boots fine with Klinger active. I just client crash

[lost gust]

yea sick so we know its not Klinger - My theory is that is it the player models causing the crashes for client side.
Trying to figure out the best way to delete saved player data so i can spawn in on a fresh character to see if that resolves it

[smoky pecan]

Yea, tested again on server. Just instantly client crashing with the usual "exception_access_violation reading address" error that tells me ABSOLUTELY nothing as to whether or not it might be mod related.

[lost gust]

i doubt its mod related ngl, ive spent the last 2 hours testing both on and offline and all the mods I use aren't crashing the game/server.

Its whenver i try and load in - the player model crashes me - join a different server with the SAME mods but i havent played before - i load in fine

[ashen stratus]

Wildcard messed up again 🤦‍♂️ if you cant handle mods. Dont let people use them.

[smoky pecan]

See, I dont even have the luxury of knowing what causes my crash. Logs tell me jack. Same world on or offline and i get the same error. with or without klinger. Could be on of the 30 or so other mods, but thats a LOT of testing. I dont have shiny so i dont have that issue. New world works fine. Havent tried other servers yet though

But i think...its just bed time for me at this point.

[lost gust]

I dont know exactly what is causing the crash however based on my testing, its not any of the MODS and the crash i am getting is 100% client side related to the "actor" files which i could only assume is the player model data.
I can load into any other server/singleplayer with the same mods active and be fine - its just the server I run, it crashes trying to load my character.

[smoky pecan]

I do recall seeing actor related notes in my error window. Lemme check it again actually

[lost gust]

99% of crash notes i have seen are the EXACT same

which means its a base game file that is broken and not a mod unless 99% of people all run the same mod which is unlikely

[smoky pecan]

Yeeep. Actor all over the place in my crash note. I was actually able to pull up Shadows prntscrn SS and comparing the two side by side. You are indeed right. This things match word for word. (at least the words I've read)

[marsh elm]

So it’s just a matter of waiting for the next fix ?

[smoky pecan]

Seems to be so

[marsh elm]

Appreciate the effort ye all put in to checking mods and letting us know about it

[smoky pecan]

Assuming it’s just player model data, have you tried, say, cloning your server world data for an offline test, but instead of just logging on, delete the world’s player data info and see if it functions?

That should wipe your player model data (and level data of course)

[lost gust]

see ive manually tried to search for my own player save data via the Nitrando portal to delete it and test it that way but wasn't able to find it,
That would be my next course of action to confirm that what i suspect is correct.

[smoky pecan]

Cause if that’s the case, I would 100% just wipe my player data (small server, only 3 players) and just GMBuff cause we are all level 105. We haven’t done bosses yet either so no need for that.

[lost gust]

the only reason why i havent gone down that route - is that isn't an option for me - 20-30 active players - alot of moving parts to restore - hoping for a fix from wildcard before i have to do that

Oh i found the files - just going through 100+ files with half of the data encrypted is kinda toxic, hard to confirm the file is myself

[smoky pecan]

I actually have that ID for myself already <~<

[lost gust]

it's just symbols for the ID data so i can't actually tell who is who.

ahhh yea now i understand you

[slate bridge]

So we’ve all got the same issues 😂

[lost gust]

will test this out now - gimme 5mins

[smoky pecan]

Oh, speaking of that ID, how can I use it to set myself up as admin when I log on so I don’t have to type enablecheats “PW”

[smoky pecan]

Keep me posted

What about the adminlistURL thing in the .ini file?

GitHub

[lost gust]

so if i delete that file, in theory i should just load in as a fresh bob on the beach

[smoky pecan]

Presumably it’s just creating a text file hosted on GitHub and linking to the raw GitHub link? I’d have test later

[lost gust]

so my ID only had a .arkprofile file and no .profilebak file - would this be an issue

[valid dagger]

Servers Stills crashing right?🤦‍♂️

[lost gust]

okay - deleted - rebooting server now - lets see

[smoky pecan]

With an unconscious, if that model is a problem, how could we rid the world of the model? Cause unconscious doesn’t decay

[lost gust]

youll kill it with the admin gun or something - if you can get close to it- it will decay like a normal corpse then

[smoky pecan]

Presumably it’ll crash on rendering it

[lost gust]

it didnt un-link me from my character

so i spawned in still as the old character

it was 100% mine - had my character name in the file

[smoky pecan]

It’s not server related. Server runs fine. Client crashes at login. I can see things start to rendering but (presumably) when it tries to render my model I client crash. No server logs even mention an error.

[lost gust]

The server was off when i deleted it - Hence why i said i rebooted -
Checking for my file now and it doesnt show up in the file browser

[thin river]

Anyone having issues with self-hosted servers crashing on startup after the re-launch of the update?

[lost gust]

i stopped it and then restarted - ill do another confirmation - stop / start now - my ID isnt in the file browser anymore.

[smoky pecan]

This I why I recommend downloading the server files and trying it in SP

Use an FTP software to download said files, put them in your SP player save directory, delete all player data files. Launch and load. This way it doesn’t even effect any server files at all

[lost gust]

starting that process now - dont need to use FTP - can just stright download the map file from nitrando

[smoky pecan]

There are issues related to mods and server boot loops yes. But crashes (client sided) are different all together

[smoky pecan]

I prefer FTP but to each there own

[lost gust]

interesting - using the server savefile - still crashes in singleplayer same errors

[smoky pecan]

That’s because it’s, as we’ve previously determined, model rendering issues. Did the game prompt you for new survivor? If not you didn’t remove your player data or it’s baked into the .ark to force you into your survivor

No

But I’ve got maxes sliders for size and I’m also close to a female survivor who has minimum sliders for size

[lost gust]

i only took the map file and didnt take ANY use data or files.
Didnt prompt new char - crashed instantly as it started to load -
Tryng now with the same world data but with no klinger and it loaded ( took awhile but it loaded )

[slate bridge]

Yup

[thin river]

We have it Start up, memory starts building, and right at the point it should start up proerly straight crashes.

[smoky pecan]

I never had klinger issue but if it’s causing problems ;-; I’ve got a whole ass base to rebuild

[lost gust]

So from this testing - there is a good chance that it is Klinger breaking currently and crashing when loading in.

[smoky pecan]

Do you have shiny Dino?

[thin river]

Yes

[lost gust]

so we would need to wait for an update to the mod itself

[smoky pecan]

Remove it

Welp

[thin river]

Broken atm?

[smoky pecan]

Yes

[distant hearth]

anyone running mods on there maps shud be fairly versed in the fun by now,
each major server update is highly likely to break some ,

it happened a fair bit in ase , with asa still ea , its gonna happen more

[smoky pecan]

Guess im creative rebuilding my base

Odd thing is

[thin river]

Im Just Server admin trying to help find answers for the owner. Will maybe give that a go. Is it just Shiny Dinos?

[lost gust]

Sadly that isnt an option for me :/ hmmmm -

[smoky pecan]

I pulled my entire world and with klinger removed, loaded and crashed

So there’s something else that’s also causing it

[lost gust]

it took a good 5minutes to load in for me - did you keep player data or just moved the world?

[smoky pecan]

Well, this and I also started a new world and built up with klinger and other mods but had zero issue

For actual building,I’ve got klinger, auto doors, and QoL+

Oh and Dino+

I’ll try that in SP here shortly

[smoky pecan]

Entire server folder. Haven’t deleted player data yet

Ye,was gonna do that.

Manually moving materials is just a fat pain in the arse

If it’s the case, I’ll probably keep the server offline till updates

[stray tangle]

Every time I try to hop on our Nitrado server the love evolved event screen pops up & then the game crashes???

[marsh elm]

Me too

[smoky pecan]

Removing klinger I can live with,but losing qol and Dino+ would decimate my supplies

[marsh elm]

It’s just time to sit and wait 🤣

[lost gust]

Are you using any of the Klinger or any building additon mods? D+ Auto door/ QoL+?

[marsh elm]

I have klinger and dino+

[stray tangle]

Klinger, KJ’s & arkitect

[lost gust]

based on a few of us here and alot of testing - Any building additon mods such as Klinger D+ and the others i mentioned are causing the crashes on load in.

I've taken my server world into single player and still had the same issue -
Once i removed any of those mods, i was able to load into the world perfectly fine.

We will need to wait on these mods to update before we can load in again most likely

[marsh elm]

Yes because removing them is not an option for my server everyone will loose there bases

[willow crystal]

one of our mod couse client crashes at our players when they want to join with the actuall asa version -.-

[lost gust]

same here, now we wait and give all our power to the MOD devs to get this fixed for us and hope we are good 🙂

[marsh elm]

To be fair server owners can relate there definitely under pressure at the moment I have 25-30 people asking me for updates imagine 1000s 🤣

[smoky pecan]

Has SS brought back more of the machines or am I gonna be stuck with default ones?

[willow crystal]

do you know what kind of fix these mods needs? our own mod (qol mod for our server) cause client crashes now and idk why

[lost gust]

Personally no - i can only assume its shader related as thats what was changed in today patch by WC

[smoky pecan]

I started with SS but moved to QoL cause the structures. Guess we cope problem being every single resource we have will poof 😄

[willow crystal]

hm shit...

[smoky pecan]

Wish WC would’ve just implemented a pull system like S+ had

[pallid mica]

So mods are making it crash?

Damn

[lost gust]

What is seeming odd -
After loading the map in singleplayer without Klinger
i can now go and load with Klinger and place the structures down without issue. If it was a shader issue wouldnt it craft when trying to place new strucutres also?

[hollow ruin]

How hard is it just to revert back to the previous working version... sort it out WC 🤦‍♂️

[spice tendon]

Which klinger mod?

[smoky pecan]

That’s I’m confused

[severe pawn]

in 35.11 (API)(CRITICAL) Failed To Get The Offset Of Ashottergamemode.GetOrLoadTribedata (INT,FTRIBEDATA&) any solution ¿

[lost gust]

i reloaded with both rustic building and additonal storages and had no issue placing new strucutres down

ofc all of the existing klinger items that were placed were removed however this doesnt mean this is our exact cause no?

[spice tendon]

I cant even get my server to boot. Did you have that issue too?

[lost gust]

server booted fine and ive never had an issue there -
Server boot issues are likely linked to shiny dinos mods

[smoky pecan]

Cause I can place Klinger, D+, and QoL+ structures all day long on a new save. But the second I try and load up the server world file it crashes and burns

[lost gust]

yep same with me -
Even in the singleplayer world all of the old model corpses didnt crash me either -
Im totally at a loss to what is causing our issues currently.

[marsh elm]

In klinger discord they are saying the mod isn’t the problem

Might just need to be deleted and reinstalled?

[lost gust]

if you want to test that for us, go for it 😄

[marsh elm]

I’m at work if I was home I would gladly let me see can I get someone to load in for me

[lost gust]

I could do it, all we are talking about right is stopping server - remove klinger mods - add back klinger mods and start server- none of the strucutres should disappear right?

[marsh elm]

I don’t know Jesus I don’t want you to lose stuff 🤣🤣

In theory nothing should happen

[lost gust]

i can do a back-up of the world but i just dont want the headache

yes in theroy nothing should happen but thats the scary part

ill do a test using singleplayer quickly

[marsh elm]

Only reason I say it is the klinger discord said it I can send the discord link if ye want to have a read ?

[lost gust]

yea i trust what your saying ( i saw you join the discord ) just need to test prior to doing it on the server...

[willow crystal]

you save your savegame, start the server with a new savegame and without the klinger mod, shut down, put your right savegame back into the server and start again or what do you want to do there?

[marsh elm]

I have done some testing. Tubular lamp. Circular lamp. Sconce lamp. MultiForge and Improved Industrial Cooker from Klinger Additional Structures ID:931877 causing client crash.
tested with only that mod installed. the rest of the structures are fine to place but as soon as I try to place any of the ones I mentioned, I crash (copied from the discord )

[smoky pecan]

Hey! I got a new error this time!

[lost gust]

interesting

[marsh elm]

Not my testing it’s in the bug report section

[lost gust]

yep, so the question remains if its up the mod to update itself to adjust to the new shaders or would WC fix it

[willow crystal]

this... and if the modders need to fix how long we need to wait

[sweet delta]

So wait, hold on. Clients are crashing upon loading into a server still with mods right? Because I’m unsure if peeps are still experiencing what I’m experiencing as well

How hard is it to fix. Can they just revert or what.. far out bud

[lost gust]

Yes, It is likely not a WC issue anymore and now a modders nightmare

[sweet delta]

If that’s the case. I’m gonna have to update my own mods in the dev kit if that’s true… -.-

They cannot keep doing this ffs lol

[marsh elm]

I think wait on wc

I get what your saying now

[sweet delta]

Yeah I doubt they’ll leave it to modders. There is too much broken right now

[smoky pecan]

WC is also lazy

[lost gust]

I dont see it being a WC issue tho?
they updated the shaders to prep for SE - the mods have to update to work with what WC gives them

[marsh elm]

Just had a read 🤣

[marsh elm]

True

I just want to get my servers back up someone needs to pull the finger out 🤣

[willow crystal]

but what exactly do you want to update? I'm still looking for the exact reason why some mods cause the client to crash. In any case, our own mod makes the problem but why exactly? shaders? graphic effects? functions? If I at least knew, I could update the mod...

[lost gust]

i think, the quick fix would be for klinger to remove the lamps and everything causing the crashes.
Then just work on re-adding the troubled items after the fact

[urban jackal]

I play on an private server and my admin told me it‘s not only klinger mod which causes issues

[lost gust]

With my testing and the mods my server uses - Klinger is the only broken mod for myself.
Surely there would be other mods taht are also broken but i can't atest to them or confirm/deny any testing done.

[urban jackal]

Same on our Server

[slate bridge]

anyone found a work around for the crash ? as soon as i load in my bed it crashed

[sweet delta]

Well the dev kit needs the same version to cook it with the new shader changes

So I don’t know at the minute

[humble thicket]

Still no fix on the client issue?

[slate bridge]

i guess not, my whole servers cant even play lol

[humble thicket]

Lol it's been hours hopefully they get it fixed soon some other servers are playable tho so I wonder what's the difference

[slate bridge]

a few mods are broken i believe

[urban jackal]

If your server doesn't have any of the affected mods installed it will work normally

[slate bridge]

Yeah mine does but don’t know what they are

Plus don’t want to take them off as a lot of people would lose there stuff lol

[humble thicket]

Mine is working fine but client crashes a lot

[old coral]

For our server it's their own Love Ascended pile of a mod that is causing the issues.
Took forever to get it to go to passive and be rid of those bugs. Now it's supposed to be included, but it's not properly. It just deleted all the skins.
If we remove it completely the server kicks everyone from the tribe and crashes.
If we even stick with ASA after this point, we won't be using any other mods by Wildcard, including their events.

Oh, and their 'hot fix' update doesn't fix anything either.
The server still won't run with the Love Ascended mod being part of it.

[quiet trellis]

yeah my server won't start since yesterday lol

what a fantastic update

[old coral]

Isn't it just? 🙄

[jade tangle]

not only Klinger. On my servers the problem it's rr-medieval-deco-rp

[jaunty vortex]

*Server won’t start without LA enabled.

[quiet trellis]

probably most of the structure mods will give issues considering their patch notes

[desert plover]

Anyone got a way of getting in without crashing yet? Or we waiting for a fix? 😞

[lone slate]

Have servers crashing got the arkomatic mod installed?

[desert plover]

Mine is crashing and i dont have that mod no

[lone slate]

I only have a few mods but players are still getting booted

[native stag]

yeah mine still crashing also even after that small patch... Still no update from WC on this

[desert plover]

Do you have love ascended mod on?

[lone slate]

I updated nitrado 3 times from v36.8 to v36.4 then to v36.11 and still a mess

[lone slate]

Hell no lol. I don’t add official event mods. They are a hot mess 😂

[desert plover]

😆

[old coral]

Never a truer word spoken! ☝️

[hasty hatch]

I cant get the server online since the last update, anyone have this issue ???

Ok i see others have the issue

[sage surge]

Yeah, I thought this 36.11 was suppose to fix this... 🤷‍♂️

[hasty hatch]

Any solutions, or is there a way to get the version before these last updates?

I had a backup but that didnt worked weirdly

[marsh elm]

That mod was always causing havoc for us

[spice tendon]

I second this statement

[sage surge]

You guys talking about Klinger Additional Structures or one of his others? Because I just tried removing it and still crashing.

[lone slate]

One of my servers was in a restart loop for 2 hours

[slim mortar]

Have they fixed servers yet

[lone slate]

Nope

[native stag]

it s not only 1 mods, all mods affecting structures is causing crash

[slim mortar]

Why is there a problem

[deft stone]

New WildCard patch yesterday at 4:30 pm

[slim mortar]

What mods are messing up servers

[native stag]

thay still dont listen and dont make a test server before releasing a patch. they like to do shit and make poeple angry

[deft stone]

I realy dont know why they dont use a ptr

[hasty hatch]

Did it start after that ???

[quiet trellis]

that would make too much sense, come on now you know better

[lone slate]

I force shut it down and rolled it back to before the update

[slim mortar]

Guys imagine this a gaming company that listens to it's players and fixes the game for them so they can play a game they payed for

[slim mortar]

Is that what U have to do to fix server

[hasty hatch]

I also tried with the last backup it was the same unfortunately, i did disable updates before that

[deft stone]

its hard to roll back the Dedicated server binaries if you dont have a copy, its possible tho by steam commands...

[lone slate]

Only one of my servers that went in to a restart loop

[hasty hatch]

Is there other way to role back ?

[lone slate]

Is your server fully shutdown?

Or restating/updating

[hasty hatch]

yeah it was

[slim mortar]

So if I rolled server back before the update will my server stop crashing and ppl can play it

[hasty hatch]

I m on Gravel Host

[lone slate]

I would probs say be patient, mine was still restarting for about 40moms before it decide to start up out of the blue

[deft stone]

if you roll back at version 35.16 i think you will be ok

[hasty hatch]

ohh ok weird

[hasty hatch]

Do you role back with the backup or there is another way ?

[deft stone]

do you have a backup of you binaries? are you on nitrado?

[slim mortar]

See my server says it's up and running but players keep crashing when they load in

[lone slate]

Exact same problem here

[vernal scroll]

Yep I got the same problem

[lone slate]

Only exception is new players making new characters don’t seem to get kicked

[hasty hatch]

No i m on Gravel Host but i have a backup from before the last restart, i have restart every 24h

[celest halo]

People won't be able to play if you roll it back to a 35.* version without them rolling the client back to a 35.* version also

[sage surge]

The problem for my server is Shiny! Dinos. Haven't removed it yet from my main server, but it fixed my test server.

[slim mortar]

We don't have that we have klingers

[lone slate]

I’m starting to think it’s the character model that got updated this the problem

[deft stone]

if it backup only the saved folder it wont work, if it copy the binaries it will

[hasty hatch]

I do have 24 mods but it was very stable and without issues the last few days

untill the update

[rotund light]

I have the same problems, but at my server it are the "Dino+ (Nanny, Hatchey)" and "Cybers Structures QoL+"

[jaunty vortex]

Prob not. The major version on server and client needs to match.

[restive stone]

what command .ini set lower tamed dino level limit? I would wanna set max level limit 300 for dinos

[hasty hatch]

it was something like dino difficulty i have it set to 10 for max 300 also

[molten glacier]

since we all have time now Quick Question: is it normal that GigaRaptor Nests are Rare af? like found maybe 3 nest since release on my Private server

[deft stone]

DestroyTamesOverLevelClamp=450

[deft stone]

you are lucky i found 0

[restive stone]

Will that just delete dinos over 450lvl?

Or just hard limit

[hasty hatch]

Wooo there is different files now in this directory where the Game.ini and GameUserSettings are, m i mixed up or they were hidden before from the provider and were always there???

[deft stone]

yes but put it to 300

[deft stone]

there always been like 40 files into the folder

[hasty hatch]

Somehow they are now available to me weird why would they hide them

[quiet trellis]

Well you shouldn't need to be messing with them in the first place, so its pointless to have them shown

[deft stone]

The mostly do nothing, its all client configurations

[quiet trellis]

all you really need is GUS and Game ini files

[hasty hatch]

yeah ok

it kinda was convenient to not look through all the files 😛

[quiet trellis]

guess I'll take the downtime to work on my bot

[deft stone]

im probably just lucky but my server is runnig correctly

v36.11

[molten glacier]

So i rly hit the Jackpot when i found that nest with Tripletts 145.145.147 ^^

[deft stone]

for sure

[lone slate]

Is it like a fresh wipe or something? Cos only new players don’t get kicked on my server

[deft stone]

once i get spawn kill on a fresh new map, by a licorn with is twins 😄

[deft stone]

no its my maps but i have only 3 mods and Love Evolved is still enabled

[mystic wigeon]

Seems their is a issue with existing player files

[lone slate]

100%

New characters are fine, it’s older characters that are the issue

[deft stone]

Because of the char creation change probably

[hasty hatch]

I just removed all my mods and still cant get it to work

[molten glacier]

thats bc mods are not the issue

[hasty hatch]

Yeah i assume that but i see some people posting about running without some mods

[deft stone]

if you have a copy of you savegame, try deletig all profile/tribe files start it and try

[valid dagger]

The estructure mods have the problem to. I host a server, and when all my players log in, the client crashes cause they render a mod structure. When I try to place that structure, my game crashes.

[deft stone]

just to see if it is the profile files causing problem

[hasty hatch]

Ok

[mystic fractal]

Ughhhh.... I Just wanna play

[hasty hatch]

Did not work unfortunately 😦

[deft stone]

so the problem is into the save game thats a bummer

[hasty hatch]

This was the destination right?
ShooterGame/Saved/SavedArks/TheIsland_WP

it had 7 files

[deft stone]

yes

[hasty hatch]

Yeah it not worked for me

[quiet trellis]

The fact that WE have to find workarounds and fix their game every single major update amazes me. They make a partnership with CF to officially support mods and involve the modding community, but when you ask for their support their answer is that they want nothing to do with modded servers. Makes me want to stop hosting and just forget about ark

[rotund light]

There is no problem with profiles. It is the client with rendering structures. I removed all mods on my server, put them on again one by one and without i can login and everything is working. But when some mods are added then everything is crashing when loggin into the server.