ark-2

[blissful perch]

Negative. Game is not out yet

[deep idol]

and probably won't be until 2028

[fallen fiber]

that seems a bit early. probably wont be out until we start civilisation on the moon

[untold ingot]

That could be within 5 years if the space dudes stopped mucking around and did it

[fallen fiber]

for real

[pastel tartan]

GD's new song

[silver otter]

Ark 2 is 2035

Maybe

[smoky bronze]

Heard that before,sounds like my warframe ban

[runic widget]

We don’t need ark 2 anytime soon

We have asa

[dire mural]

no point of ark 2

[timber grail]

Join Notification should not be shown, that is the reason why people in Ark make his name like 123 or human.

[tough birch]

we demand no nitrado servers, host ur own and spend some money on active dev dedicated to each server

[fallen fiber]

valid argument

we never needed asa

[vast rain]

pvp servers down? ony see 3 conquest -.-

[hoary steeple]

Sell ark a good gaming co. Like bungie .love this game but so over this stuff

[tropic pelican]

I will never buy Ark2 or anymore modded servers/mod's!. This game is not worth wasting your valuable time on!

[grand zephyr]

What's this\

[glacial canyon]

dragon doodo

[sacred finch]

ASA is just a remaster on a new engine hence the extensive issues, ASE had thousands of issues as it was developed and it ruined the game at the time and some of those bugs are still not fixed. Stop complaining about a game, when you have no idea what they're spending their money on, nor do you have the slightest idea the amount of effort it takes to make a game that's well optimized and as big as ASA is supposed to be. By the time Ark 2 releases you'll be eating your words because of how good the quality will be. Or not but I'm not gonna sit here complaining, mfs waited years and are still waiting for gta, when it's really just a improved remaster of the last game and its not like they arent always filled with bugs when they release😭

[stuck bobcat]

Crying about people crying is unheard of

[stray plover]

spoken like a true fanboy........ 10 years same bugs.,...... lol cant fix what they have been working on for 10 yrs ..... bet new stuff is better im sure....

i got some ocean front property to sell you in arizona dirt cheap

[sacred finch]

Sooo much typing, you say here n waited

Sat*

[stray plover]

because maybe just maybe they will tighten the heck up and actually fix things if they see people who have played for years are pissed

[worldly garden]

👀

[stray plover]

as long as fanboys like you lap up their BS they think they are doing good and wont actually fix things

[sacred finch]

What the f*ck do you think I'm thinking when I'm hoping for the game succeed, you sound so stupid.

[viral lynx]

your name suits you

[sacred finch]

Acting like people don't know about the errors everybody deals with when EVERYBODY DEALS WITH THEM

[stray plover]

hoping it succeeds is fine but you can be honest about it failing so they know they need to do better

[sacred finch]

I have said plenty in the past about it and its issues my bad for not including it in a new comment I guess lol

[stray plover]

right now dropping new maps when extinction still broke as crap same thing when extinction came out abb still broke....

[viral lynx]

go touch some grass kid 🙂

[stray plover]

this^^

[sacred finch]

Well that makes sense from the both of you

Weird

[viral lynx]

do you hear something @stray plover

[sacred finch]

Don't listen to kids old men, you're totally wiser

Lol you know nothing about my age nor my life so it's cute how such a "wise old man" could be so presumptious

[viral lynx]

I was created in a petri dish and this is all a simulation

you don't know what is what either

[stray plover]

dont get me wrong i bought everything in ase, and still bought asa and it is basically same game. im tired of waiting on them to improve and make real changes. you will get there one day too

FYI you the one brought up age. talking bout two old ppl lol

im here to give HONEST opinions instead of kissing butt and pretending like they doing a fantastic job

sooo maybe they see they need to do better if the public opinion lets em know they are failing still

[viral lynx]

I came from the future to tell you all that ark 2 will be delayed @here

[sacred finch]

Please go actually read what I said first and tell me where I said there wasn't issues

[viral lynx]

[stray plover]

ark 2 or atlas 2 this time????

gotta rebrand and make more money same code

[serene onyx]

We know bro don’t need to tell us XD don’t even know the month or year it’s coming out

[stray plover]

atlas the original ark 2..... then asa the next ark 2..... should just do asaa for ark ascended again.... re release same game.....

[serene onyx]

What are you even saying man

[stray plover]

im saying first time they talked about ark 2 it became atlas

second time they talked ark 2..... became asa

[proven river]

is ark 2 real

[stray plover]

no

[serene onyx]

Not out yet so technically no

[serene onyx]

Uhm okay?

[stray plover]

they never actually gonna release ark 2.... gonna use the same code to pop something else out to make more money listing it as a side hustle and keep ppl watching for an ark 2

it is a carrot

on a string

[serene onyx]

I’m sure it will come out just not for a long time

[stray plover]

naaa

then they have no carrot

[serene onyx]

Uh okay cool

Whatever you say man 😂

[stray plover]

aight calm this channel down stay on topic...

had to block a bot

[serene onyx]

There is no vote for ark 2 bub

[knotty coral]

No I mean the creature ideas.

[fallow niche]

@knotty coral This channel is only for Ark 2. Use #general, #ark-survival-ascended, etc for ASA/ASE questions.
https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/community-crunch-443-club-ark-update-community-creature-submission-r2438/

[versed cosmos]

So this channel can never be used?

[sacred finch]

Ark 2 conversation is real go elsewhere with that man

[fallow niche]

It's for Ark2. You can speculate about Ark2, talk about the current known info about Ark2, etc in this channel.

[versed cosmos]

When’s release date.

[fallow niche]

Steam page says to be announced.

[versed cosmos]

2021

[versed cosmos]

To be announced.

[fallow niche]

@lyric tartan #announcements. This channel is for Ark 2, not Ascended.

[versed cosmos]

Think fishing will actually be a thing in Ark 2

[winged dome]

We have concept/teaser art for it, so ... yes.

[worldly garden]

I'd say the top pinned post says yes.

🎣

[versed cosmos]

Cuz it’s not really a thing in Asa

Max pole. Max fish that’ll bite and be caught is 2.5. I get weak blueprints and 5 crystal

[blissful perch]

Fishing in ASE and Asa is horrific imo

[lilac trail]

Go ice cave catch big salmon

[blissful perch]

Ark 2 (I hope) has a much more developed fishing system that makes you want to go fishing instead of mashing bites into ponds like you do in Ark 1

My ideal fishing system has 1) loot unique to fishing 2) biome specific fishing loot 3) doesn’t require hard to get bait to do early game and 4) can actually land you some tames (either via eggs or by catching a fish you can keep in a fish basket and place down somewhere)

[versed cosmos]

Agree.

Aquariums. Better for early Game. Shovel for bait. Kate game. Better poked. Better loot

[zenith mist]

I know it’s all speculation but do you guys think Ark 2 comes out this year?

[versed cosmos]

No. I don’t think it’ll ever come out

[blissful perch]

No shot this year

I’d say maybe 2027-2028 at the earliest

[zenith mist]

Holy hell, 8 years in production? That game better be damn good lol

[blissful perch]

I think a sequel is likely to eventually come out…cause this is WC’s only real IP

[blissful perch]

Uhhhhh lol. Not really 8 years full steam developing like a AAA studio, as seen by them making asa rn

Tho @versed cosmos I do have a longer design plan for fishing if you’d want to see it

Suppose I could post it here in chunks. Would love to see it in ark 2 tbh

[versed cosmos]

Sure. Whatever

[blissful perch]

Three types of fishing, determined by the quality of the rod, and what bait you use
Fishing Type One - “Normal” Fishing

Normal fishing is intended to provide players with a meaningful source of fish/prime fish. Amount of fish/prime fish will scale with bait/rod quality. Rare chance of dropping fish roe or aquatic eggs of species that spawn within the biome (this ignores player progression tier, but rarity of high tier creature’s eggs scales with rod/bait quality).

Example -> Fishing in a swamp offers the following loot table (not exhaustive)

Plant Bait (primitive)
Raw Fish Meat
Raw Prime Fish Meat
Basic Bait (medieval)
Raw Fish Meat
Raw Prime Fish Meat
Leech Blood
Coel Roe
Diplocaulus Egg
Superior Bait (fabricator)
Raw Fish Meat
Raw Prime Fish Meat
Leech Blood
Coel Roe
Diplocaulus Egg
Piranha Roe
Beelzebufo Egg
Exceptional Bait (tek)
Raw Fish Meat
Raw Prime Fish Meat
Leech Blood
Coel Roe
Diplocaulus Egg
Piranha Roe
Beelzebufo Egg

Fishing Type Two - Abiotic Fishing

Abiotic Fishing provides useful bonus resources that scale with magnetic lure/rod quality. The loot table is distinct from the biotic and capture fishing tables for cleanliness to avoid chaff fish when players are fishing for resources. Also the only way to acquire better quality fishing rod blueprints.

Example -> Fishing in a swamp offers the following loot table (not exhaustive)

Magnetic Lure (fabricator)
Chitin
Cementing Paste
Sap
Rare Flower
Rare Mushroom
Plant Species X
Fishing rod blueprints (for fabricator tier and lower)
Superior Magnetic Lure (industrial)
Chitin
Cementing Paste
Sap
Rare Flower
Rare Mushroom
Plant Species X
Fishing rod blueprints (for industrial tier and lower)
Exceptional Magnetic Lure (tek)
Chitin
Cementing Paste
Sap
Rare Flower
Rare Mushroom
Plant Species X
Element Dust
Fishing rod blueprints (for tek tier and lower)

Fishing Type Three - Capture Fishing

Capture Fishing provides players with tames, and is the only fishing variety that requires players to locate an in-world fish entity. Creatures caught this way are “stored” in fishing baskets (unsure if this means a player consumes a fishing basket in their inventory to do this). Unsure if this can apply to parakeet fish schools.

Basic Lure (medieval)
Tamed Coel
Tamed Trilobite
Superior Lure (fabricator)
Tamed Coel
Tamed Trilobite
Tamed Salmon
Tamed Piranha
Tamed Leech/Lamprey
Tamed Cnidaria
Exceptional Lure (tek)
Tamed Coel
Tamed Trilobite
Tamed Salmon
Tamed Piranha
Tamed Leech/Lamprey
Tamed Cnidaria
Tamed Eurypterid
Tamed Ammonite

🤷‍♂️ maybe it at least inspires discussion. I like design chats as a hobby

Ah. Should mention “roe” is something you could use to farm the fish for drops, similar to a crop plot (an aquaculture system basically)

[versed cosmos]

I like what I’m seeing. Maybe they’ll put in ark 2

[blissful perch]

I hope so. I like to chat design here on the off chance WC reads and maybe takes some inspiration

But yea my goal is to make fishing actually feel fun? You do this whole minigame for basically zero reason

Better off in ark 1 killing the fish with a spear and farming the beach for trilobites/use an otter for black pearls 😅

[versed cosmos]

I like the lure idea. Be like making recipes but with fiber and paint

Ark 2 needs this

[remote ember]

So, now they took all ASA servers down, I expect Ark2 will be released very soon.

[versed cosmos]

I think so.

[blissful perch]

Yes the idea would be that you basically made a more expensive “multi use” lure that you’d pick based on what you wanted to fish up

Removing the need to find an actual fish would also help, since it’s pure pain to have that requirement imo

[runic widget]

Don’t text in this chat if it’s not about ark 2

[blissful perch]

It IS about ark 2. It’s about what I’d like to see changed in fishing in ark 2

[runic widget]

Then that wasn’t for you

[blissful perch]

Ah so true

Somehow entirely missed those messages lol

[young hinge]

[worldly garden]

I wouldn't say it's been in production for 8 years no. Probably not been in production the whole time since the announcement in 2020.

[true viper]

From what I've heard, Ark II was in pre-production since extinction first launched. It was more planning, and figuring out what the game would be before the tangiable work started.

[stray elm]

Which makes me think that's why some of the fauna looks so Earth-like. Even though it's suppose to be an alien planet.

[true viper]

Well to be fair, we've only seen 1 truly alien creature, that lizard thing.

Unless I'm forgetting something

[stray elm]

Meant flora

I'm an idiot

[true viper]

Right even then, there's no telling what other biomes there might be outside of the vistas and backgrounds we've seen in the concept arts. Even by Arks standards it would feel very out of place to have dinosaurs roaming about a truly alien environment riddled with RGB cactuses and palm trees.

I feel like that was always going to happen

[stray elm]

Sure, but those could've been added after ARK-2 got reconceptualized.
What I'm saying is the original concept of ARK-2 could've been on Earth, with more earlier concept-arts showing Earth flora.
But since they needed to continue past Ext, since ATLAS wasn't doing well, they made the Genesis maps to continue the storyline past Extinction, even though the original plan was to stop ARK-1's narrative at Ext.
So, they had to rehash some of the old concepts for Arat.

[stray elm]

Nah, Rockwell's Garden was pretty alien

[true viper]

Right, but that was an artificially curated environment

It wasn't a natural thing, just like flood blightlands in Halo you know?

[stray elm]

And?
That's not the point

[true viper]

Comprised of organic material, but artificially terraformed

[true viper]

That could be true. Interesting at the very least.

[stray elm]

You're saying that'd be out of place for ARK. Even though we have a directly alien-like environment.
The origins doesn't matter. The fact we have a esthetically alien environment shows that Wildcard can make an alien environment with dinosaurs.

[true viper]

The origins do matter. If it's a naturally occurring landscape/ecosystem it would look odd, at least if it were the primary biome of the game. In the case of Rockwells garden it's an artificially terraformed environment. It's not a naturally occurring landscape.

Not saying that it can't ever happen, it may very well could, but if it's the primary landscape of the game, alien planet or not, it would look a little off imo.

[stray elm]

But why does it actually matter?
Majority of the ARK community doesn't care for the narrative. So if I where to say "yeah, so the other weird ass ring is actually all alien shit" they'd believe it. And most people wouldn't care, since it just looks cool.

The esthetic is more alien then the origin. Which I feel like is a more important matter in talking about art style and if something fits in or not.
The narrative/origins comes later. It's the matter of if it can ethetically fit into the game is the quesstion.
Which, Gen2 shows it can.

[stray elm]

Also, I can see your point in this.
Though, what I think what'd be the best for them, is to make anything around the Genesis ships debris to be Earth-like, as Earth fauna/flora is sprouting from the remnants of the ship.
But the more farther out you go, the more alien it gets as you enter the planets more natural ecosystem.

[true viper]

Right, and I'm not disagreeing with you on that. What I'm saying is that if the primary biome of the game were as overtly alien like Rockwells garden, it would look off for the game at large. that kind of thing may very well work in Ark II, but I can't see it being a primary environmental emphasis of the game.

[stray elm]

Okay, I see what you mean.

In then I agree.
Though, I think my suggestion above would make the most sense both narratively, and art style. Could also be representative towards the difficulty of places.
The more Earth-like a biome seems, the more easier it is.
The more alien it appears, the harder/more dangerous it is.

[true viper]

idk if I'd like that very much, not saying that it's a bad thing, but it could be too 'noisy'. I'd much prefer it if the environments were redwoods, conifer forests and savannahs with a little bit of alien spice thrown in there versus biomes that become increasingly harsh as the game progresses. I'd personally like to see the environments be more 'passive' for a lack of a better phrase. It's one of things I really like about Halo, the rings and the Ark specifically. The environments are so Earth like that it's almost unsettling to a degree when you take into consideration just how far removed Earth the rings are.

[stray elm]

I just don't want lazy Star Trek bullshit where alien planets and species just so happen to look exactly like Earth life and humans.

[true viper]

There might be a bit of that to an extent. What I personally feel is going on is that Ark II is trying to incorporate more medieval fantasy elements into the game (the Orcs) and have them be justified within the universe by making them an sapient alien race.

Think back to the early days of Ark, before SE and the other DLCs. You'd walk around and look at the obelisks and how alien they were in comparison to the otherwise Earth like landscape you're playing on. That clash of aesthetic raised a lot of questions about what exactly is going on here.

Like if the swamps had the same level of alienlike inclusions that they did in Gen I, I wouldn't complain, it's just the right amount of believable and familiarity with the right of amount of spice thrown into the mix.

[elder sedge]

What do we think the uruk-hai do in ark 2? Like is that their home planet?

[sacred finch]

Wait what did I miss, orcs are planned to be in ark 2?

[stray elm]

Been confirmed that they're the natives, yes.

[stray elm]

The Aratai's.
The purple dudes in the ARK-2 trailer

[sacred finch]

Thanks for clarifying

[true viper]

Every Orc will be killed on sight. Looking forward to them.

[blissful perch]

It feels pretty rare for anyone to have fully alien flora. Even Pandora has a foundation of basically earth trees

[stray elm]

If they can slightly make them different and explain it away with "convergent evolution" then I'm fine with Arat being pretty Earth-like.

[blissful perch]

Tbh I think the challenge is fundamentally a creative one. It’s crazy hard to make credible alien plants because most of us assume they have to exist and look earth like

[stray elm]

It's not impossible for an alien world to look Earth-like. Just unlikely.

I will be happy with just a convergent evolution explanation. And not a Star Trek "so, it just so happens the humanoid shape is the most common for space faring civilizations"

[blissful perch]

I moreso mean that the chances are slim, yet we as humans tend to envision life as earth like

[stray elm]

Should be noted that the Genesis ship was already searching for an Earth-like planet.
Depending on what that means, it could've been set to the upmost highest standard of a planet with an ecosystem literally 1:1 with Earth's.
Alien planets may be very common in ARK's universe, but the ship might've just been looking for literally Earth 2.0.

[blissful perch]

I’m not really lore concerned lol, I’m moreso fascinated by speculative biology and would love a greater focus in gaming on alien plants

[stray elm]

Right. But what I've proposed was convergent evolution being the explanation for Arat.

That's still speculative biology, no?

[blissful perch]

It is, but it’s kinda…idk. Boring I guess? Obviously there are valid reasons for things like green leaves and photosynthesis to evolve convergently, but if I stare at an ingame tree’s leaves and go “oak” or “palm” I’m not sold lol

[stray elm]

Sure. But again, we do HAVE to take into account of the lore for the explanation.

[blissful perch]

Obviously the animals are the stars of the show, but it would be great to have a sort of “off feeling” to the local flora as well as the fauna

[stray elm]

The ship was trying to find a 1:1 planet.
It has found a 1:1 planet to Earth.

[blissful perch]

Lore is easily the most flexible thing in the equation, but sure it can help justify things. But even then, a 1:1 earth with completely different animal life and near identical plant life? Pretty stretched…considering most of earth’s life isn’t even the same across time (what? 99.9999% are extinct?)

[stray elm]

Most life though on Earth do have similar characteristics. That's what convergent evolution is.
Shark, Itchy, and a Dolphin all are totally genetically different animals and originated from different time periods, yet look similar.

[blissful perch]

Right, so that can help justify things like green leaves

(Same light from a similar star)

But even in the species you described, there are massive differences beyond those convergent features. That’s kinda what I’m getting at - the same is true for plants

[stray elm]

Also can help why the Aratai's are humanoid, even though they're completely alien.

[blissful perch]

The difference between Aratai and humans is indeed what I’m after for plants

[stray elm]

Oooh, okay. I see what you mean.

[blissful perch]

Plenty of convergence, but also a distinct uniqueness that add the feeling of alien

I don’t need exclusively weird flora that’s forced to look alien

[stray elm]

Most planets though are biologically pretty basic though.
Bark exists to protect a tree from the environment and any animals. So, would an alien tree not also evolve something like bark to protect itself?

[blissful perch]

Actually bark exists to support a plant being tall without losing water 😅

But on wet planets such an adaptation isn’t required, and it certainly has no reason to mirror earth’s bark

[stray elm]

Point is, that seems pretty basic enough that any planet from any planet can evolve to have that.

[stray elm]

That's assuming Arat is wet.

[blissful perch]

Bark even on earth only evolved once

And plenty of plant groups have no bark. Ferns and mosses most readily come to mind

[stray elm]

Going through the material for Arat right now in ASE, and it mentions something about mesa's and deserts.
So if that's anything to go by, it seems Arat is even more Earth like with the biomes as well

[true viper]

Arat would have to be wet to some extent, if only because of dense flora we've seen in concept ark and both cinematic trailers.

[blissful perch]

Sure, but again…look at earth’s deserts. There’s plenty of non-bark plants there

[stray elm]

So we get alien cacti's.

[blissful perch]

But even cacti is a relatively “weird” plant - it’s only 35 million years old. That’s kinda what I’m getting at.

[stray elm]

I want to eat an Aratai

[blissful perch]

The biomes like deserts are old, but the plant kingdom even on earth has taken dramatically distinct evolutionary approaches to surviving there

All (almost) are green tho, so there’s that lol

[stray elm]

Genuine question.

Let's say the leaf lizard in the trailer is actually a sentient flora. Like, it's literally a moving plant that acts like an animal, but isn't.
Would it still go into a salad if I ate it?

[blissful perch]

Arguably you could do that no matter what kingdom it was in

[stray elm]

Oh true, salad can contain meat.

But like, let's say as the main part of a salad that has to be green.
Would it go into it as a salad base?

[blissful perch]

There also are plants that can move themselves on earth, so it’s not a stretch to have some that do it on Arat

I’d argue the saladmander is prolly not numerous enough to form a salad base

Prolly more of a mix-in than the main green

[stray elm]

Well yeah. I think IRL it's "possible" that a plant evolves to become its own organism like an animal. But unlikely on Earth since there's no evolutionary push to force them to evolve a nervous system. (which is thought to be a key aspect to actually form thoughts)

[blissful perch]

Well hold on there - plants ARE organisms lol

[stray elm]

You know what I meant.
I know they're alive. Just not alive on par to an ant.

[blissful perch]

And plenty of plants on earth move without a central nervous systems

(And so do many animals - see: sponges)

[stray elm]

That plant lizard 100% gotta have a nervous system.

[blissful perch]

Maybe

There are plants like birds of paradise that resemble animals

[stray elm]

Point is, it isn't likely on Earth, but isn't illogical for a species of plants to evolve to become like the lizard dude in the trailer.
Basically like a fourth kingdom. (animal kingdom, plant kingdom, fungi kingdom, the-fuck-ever-that-lizard-is kingdom)

[blissful perch]

Could be entirely coincidence that it looks like a lizard - how it behaves matters a lot and we didn’t see much

[blissful perch]

Certainly true though!

The border between different life kingdoms on earth often blurs. Wouldn’t be shocked either if the plant lizard was actually an animal carrying plant cargo (which happens a lot on earth)

[stray elm]

So a symbiosis?

[blissful perch]

Exactly

[stray elm]

It's part animal and plant.
But the main part is an animal carrying plants that may protect the lizard, but also actively spreads seeds around the environment.

[blissful perch]

Could be!

It could also be a very common symbiosis between an animal and plant species - animal houses/carries/protects a plant and the plant supplies sugar to the animal via photosynthesis

(Also sry for nerding about plants, but that’s my field of study lol)

[stray elm]

I also nerd out about them when I eat them

[blissful perch]

Tbh what is love to see is plucking leaves off the lizard to maybe use as medicine

I’m really not a fan of ark 1’s medicine system…plants have been done dirty

[stray elm]

I kind of hope it's a literal lizard plant instead of it being symbiosis.
For two reasons.
Because this would open up new doors for Wildcard to do more intelligent plant organisms like the Forest Titan (ignore that it's made out of Element) them adding plant animals like it's a new kingdom.
And secondly.
Because of all the plant jokes I can make.

[stray elm]

The entire cooking pot system needs a rework.

I god fucking hope that they add some form of cooking/chief system.

[steel dust]

Ark could learn with Soulmask game, the game include a lot of good mechanic,

[stray elm]

I kind of agree if we're talking about the NPC system Soulmask has.
But honestly, I'd like if it was more akin to Fallout 4. With you creating a small community/civilization of survivors.

If they do a system like that in ARK-2. That's why I hope the game isn't forever primitive, and slowly readds medieval/industrial stuff.
Imagine building up a small community of survivors with primitive huts and equipment. But slowly over the course of the games life, we get more advanced engrams that allows us to rebuild that community into something more industrialized.
Allows us to actually have fear of our community being easily wiped out by a pack of raptors or a rex. To building up some stone walls and cannons to guard your civilization.

[blissful perch]

Ugh. The problem is that the game will just be about walls and cannons

Look at ark 1 now. Everyone just bum rushes endgame tech and that’s all the game is

There’s plenty of structures and civilization to have without cannons and stone walls

[stray elm]

That's just the issue of having an online MMO-like game.
There's no benefit outside of your own feelings to NOT minmax everything and bum rush the entire game.
That's why I feel like this is more of a personal issue then something that can actually be fixed. Because every game will have its minmaxers. You just need to play the game at your own pace.

[blissful perch]

Well yea, but minmaxing in a game with bows and spears means…you still use bows and spears

[stray elm]

This is why I'm so apposed to removing Tek.
At the cost of minmaxers making the game unfun, they removed an entire tier that other people like myself that play the game at a more steady pace get fucked over with.
That'd be like removing the grappling hook from Halo Infinite, just because there's people that abused it.

[stray elm]

You can 100% minmax a primitive game.

Look at The Forest series.

[blissful perch]

I’m agreeing with you. What I’m saying is that minmaxing can render entire mechanics obsolete or they can…not do that

Nobody in ark 1 uses a spear after maybe…an hour of play or so. IMO that’s a problem that ark 2 can reasonably fix by having endgame spears with a stricter tech clamp on what people are using

[stray elm]

Right.

[blissful perch]

Tek tier just ruined the game lol, so I am kinda glad it’s gone for that reason. It’s like adding a grappling hook to Mario bros 1 levels…completely guts the game’s intended traversal mechanics

[stray elm]

This is where I think having the new Knowledge points be behind missions may allows this to last longer.
As well if they change how engrams/knowledge progression works.

[blissful perch]

Right but this is what I see as a fallacy. “Delaying” progression doesn’t change anything when ark is designed to have really long term progression and permanence. Everyone will spend the massive bulk of their time at the “end”

[stray elm]

Sure, but there where other aspects of Tek tier that wasn't traversal.
Tek should've stayed a QoL tier that replaced older stations. Like the replicator just acting as a smithy/fabricator, and the Tek Gen (in ASE) acting as a wireless generator.

[blissful perch]

If ark wiped every month, then absolutely the progression pacing (which I agree is too fast in ark 1) would be much more impactful on this issue

[blissful perch]

Much of that QoL can reappear in a non-tek format, and in other cases the ark 1 problems the QoL solves may be entirely removed or different in ark 2

[stray elm]

Right, good point.
Think in general, even removing Tek out of the convo, they should at least progress a little big technologically throughout ARK-2's life cycle.
Purely primitive games I have never seen live that long unless they're mostly single player, or have a twist like Steampunk.

[blissful perch]

I mean most survival games don’t last as long as ark does

[stray elm]

Most don't try to do what ARK does outside of funny dinosaurs.

[blissful perch]

Mostly because they don’t take the RPG approach of extremely slow post game stat progression ark has taken

[stray elm]

Weird thing, but I also think color regions add onto this.

BRUH, what is against the ToS?

What other game allows you to mass tame almost everything, while having procedurally generated colors on every creature?

Hang on, I want to see what's deleting my message so I can send it to Dodomail

[blissful perch]

There’s a few things like that in other survival games, but to nowhere NEAR the extent ark has

[stray elm]

Is fucking Pokemon removed?

[blissful perch]

Dang you’re getting smacked here

[stray elm]

No, that's not it.

Pokemon

What in the fuck?!

I think I found it. Hang on, going to Dodomail

[stray elm]

Okay, tl;dr. Outside of shiny's and variants, Pokemon doesn't have any actual noticeable uniqueness between each animal of the same species

[blissful perch]

(IVs)

But you mean visually I assume

[stray elm]

Which I think does contribute to some of the ARK addiction.
Literally, what other game has this that allows you to mass tame shit?
Almost nothing in the game is static and looks the same, outside of untamable stuff.

[stray elm]

Yeah.
Every normal Charizard looks the same as the next normal Charizard.

[blissful perch]

True. Point being though, because of these reasons for people to spend a billion hours playing ark with the same character on the same cluster…the endgame is what you use

Whatever that may be. So imo? It’s gotta stick to the primitive theme all the way to the end. Obviously there can be other tech in there, but if primitive is “pushed out” like in ark 1 I think ark 2 will fail its primitive goal

[stray elm]

That's where we clash.
Because I want it to fail its primitive goal.

[blissful perch]

You already have a game that isn’t primitive though

For a large group of folks though, there’s a desire for primitive survival in an ark game. I know I want scrappy survival with primitive gear

I like tek for lore purposes, but have never really enjoyed it beyond that

[stray elm]

The same game that wont be fun forever, and will have a lack of content.
"Yeah, you still have Fallout New Vegas/3 if you want an actual RPG game. Allow the FPS enjoyers to have fun with the casual Fallout 4 gameplay of a more looter shooter"
Abandoning a games key features is how you alienate the older community and have more resentment towards an IP.
This is beside Tek. A key aspect of ARK was always about progression and advancing. Literally since day-one of 2015 with fabricators.

[blissful perch]

Yea I mean you have to have progression to have a survival game work

[stray elm]

Technological progression, is what I'm saying.

[blissful perch]

I mean that’s not really core to the ark series

[stray elm]

To you

[blissful perch]

Perhaps core to the first game, but the series really has depended upon taming wildlife

[stray elm]

The first game is all we have to go off of.
As I gave an example of above. Fallout 4 made the game more linear, and with the ability to unlock every perk in one playthrough.
To a new fan, that isn't an issue as they don't have standards of the previous titles.
But you can't argue with me that isn't removing key aspects of the Fallout IP. That was more about a non-linear narrative with a game design that you have to be careful in what you level up, as you only have a finite amount of levels.

[blissful perch]

Idk much about fallout in fairness

[stray elm]

I would very much argue that taming is part if ARK. But as well as RPG systems in a tier-based progression that allows you to adapt and evolving technologically to your environment.

ARK is unique, because it mashes up multiple genres into one game.

[blissful perch]

Idk. That’s pretty normal for survival games, and ark 1 simply did so via advancing through multiple tech ages

Doesn’t really strike me as a unique ark thing

[stray elm]

Can you list off every Survival game you know of that does this? (that came out before ARK)

[blissful perch]

Every game is a tall lift…

[stray elm]

Because if we're going to just say "taming is what makes ARK great" then there's literally hundreds of better games to play.
Fucking Palworld out of all things would be considered better then ARK if we're just keeping taming.
But again, it's the multitude of different aspects of ARK that makes it interesting and unique from other games.
Taming isn't special in ARK. But it's special that I can also build a base and dec out my base with gatling guns and turrets.

[blissful perch]

I mean I guess. I’ve never seen a game with the diversity of taming that ark has. Even Palworld has severe limitations on what you can do with pals that ark doesn’t have

[stray elm]

Pals arguably do more then ARK tames.
Most tames in ARK are stationary until told to follow/attack, or are ridden.

Pals act more like actual workers in your base.

[blissful perch]

The rpg elements of Palworld are more fleshed out

But afaik you can’t exactly run around with a pack of tames like you can in ark. And the mounted mechanics I personally found to be far inferior

[stray elm]

They are exactly the same.
You kill/tame to gain XP, you level up your character with basic stats, and unlock totally-not-engrams.
Only unique thing about them is that you have to do bosses to craft speci-oooh wait, that's just Tek.

[blissful perch]

The move sets are pretty distinct

They do use Pokemon style attacks after all

[stray elm]

Should also be noted that, while Palworld had big boi (fucking bot)
day-one players then both ASE and ASA. ASE still had more consistent players then Palworld did on PC. (until the recent giant update came out for Palworld)
If taming was the only major thing keeping ARK alive. ATLAS would still at least have a decent playerbase, as (with your logic) no other game like ARK (and let's be real, ATLAS is just a copy and paste of ARK) has taming like it.

ATLAS is the closest example we have of ARK-2

And that game fucking died on launch

[blissful perch]

🤨 it’s a clone of ark 1 but with extremely significant flaws in its basic design. Since by rendering my logic to its extreme zoo tycoon is Ark because it involves animals

My point is that the thread of ark is the taming, but that multiple themes and experiences can be contained within that broader thread and core value

[stray elm]

Zoo Tycoon technically doesn't having taming. You don't ever tame the imported animals.

[blissful perch]

Oh my bad. How about Pokemon

[stray elm]

That one I agree is basically ARK

Let me ask you this.

Recent gen Pokemon's have been more 3D, and the latest one I believe allows you to ride some of the animals.
So, if they redid this to make it feel less janky, made it a bit more survival like akin to Arceus, and gave every Pokemon color regions so every member of the same race looks unique and different, and allowed you to breed them to mix the colors.
What would be the point of playing ARK if it's only about taming?

That's kind of why I don't see ARK being about taming as its main focus.
ARK might be slightly harmed by this if this where to happen. But I don't think it'd even come close to dying.
Because ARK-1 has a multitude of mechanics that Pokemon will never have.
Until another game releases that has mastered replicating the same taming systems ARK has, the technological progression, and its RPG systems all while having dinosaurs. And have ALL of these aspects in one game. ARK will be fine.

[hushed drum]

I don't remember if this is true or not, but isn't this game gonna have souls like combat? Cus that'll lose my interest ngl.

[stray elm]

That's the idea of it, yeah.

[hushed drum]

How would that even work? That doesn't seem like a smart idea to make a survival game change it's formula around to adapt a more souls like combat style.

Just seems like too much of a change for what makes ark it's own identity.

[stray elm]

Conan is the best example of a survival game with souls-like combat if you want one.

[hushed drum]

I'll check it out then, hopefully it'll give me a different perspective and change my view on if it's a good change, or negative change. Thanks for the recommendation.

[stray elm]

Like, I kind of agree as well that the souls-like combat feels unneeded. But at the same time, it's the least of my personal concern compared to the game staying primitive.

[hushed drum]

Yeah, It's not a very needed change at all, but hopefully it doesn't rely deeply on it having this souls like combat aspect. I'll stay neutral on the games expected release, but I'm not gonna keep my hopes up cus you never know anymore.

[blissful perch]

imo souls combat just means...not mashing LMB. A huge win to make things more engaging

[hushed drum]

Yes and no. You can do combat properly without the whole souls aspect, but it depends on what game it is that it's being mixed with.

That's why I was skeptical.

[blissful perch]

"souls" just means blocks, parries, and dodges

[hushed drum]

It's a little more to it

[blissful perch]

it's not like every trex is gonna be frame perfect

it's just a combat scheme best championed by the souls games

[hushed drum]

Souls like stuff usually refers to the very difficult combat from games like elden ring, or perhaps that one game about a crab.

[stray elm]

And lock on

[hushed drum]

That too lol

All they gotta do is not rely on it, and it should be fine.

[blissful perch]

that's the souls genre, but not necessarily the souls combat

[hushed drum]

I guess so

[blissful perch]

I agree 100% that ark 2 being elden ring but with tames and dinos would be horrendous

[stray elm]

That I do have to agree with Shifter. Souls-like combat is more to do with FromSoftware then it does the actual combat.

[blissful perch]

but that wasn't the impression I got from the WC posts on the subject

[stray elm]

For context, Miyazaki (the FromSoftware one) was inspired by Ocarina of Time for the combat of Demon Souls.
Ocarina of Time, is not a hard game.

[hushed drum]

That's why I ain't defending my original message, cus it does make more sense and I just had it confused with the genre, and not the actual combat.

Either way, we can just hope they don't heavily rely on the souls like combat for the game at least

[stray elm]

We'll see how it goes. But one thing souls-like combat does get wrong, every fucking time.
BOWS

We'll see how ARK-2 handles bows.

I'd honestly would prefer if the combat 'slightly' changes to a third-person/Gears of War like shooter if you have a bow out.
Free aim wherever you have your crosshair at.

[hushed drum]

Or any ranged weapon for that matter.

Hopefully it doesn't go downhill there.

[stray elm]

That's what I'm hoping too.
Too many popular IP's alienate their older audience and changed what made the IP good. It shatters and divides the community until the IP goes downhill

[stark ore]

Ark 2 is still going to be released …. Best joke I’ve heard all day!!

[warped junco]

Don't release Ark 2 if its going to be like ase or asa

[ripe vapor]

ark 2 stolen

[daring jetty]

petition to close this channel until 2032 coz bro

[harsh spear]

i think ark 2 should be designed in a way where it encourages you to explore new regions.
like as of right now, u know what to do step by step to reach your goals asap. and thats by getting specific ressources in order to craft the best in slot items. i think that makes it boring.

i would rather have it where exploring by itself makes you progress but in a way that isnt as predictable.

i mean exploring in ark is actually discouraged by the fact that there is dangerous creatures waiting for you so you will wait and build up in savezones until you know that u can easily take them on.
maybe you shouldnt be able to do this so easily.

a lot of it comes down to making it where u can no longer meta the fun out of the game. it starts by creature lvl tbh. imo not a great thing to have when all it does is make u find the highest level which can then beat anything else that is lower than it.

the level thing honestly one of the biggest downers in ark. it often comes down to whether u find the high lvl or not and turns into a feel bad if u dont. any creature should start off the same but become stronger as u bond to it. if levels exist they should be more similar to real life creatures where some are a bit stronger but not 100x stronger because they are higher level. and they shall not become super busted where u can 1 shot anything. that for me has always felt more like something u would see in a private server rather than the official settings

[rough wasp]

Holy yap

[mint swan]

ngl kinda true

[timber sage]

fr

[lyric ibex]

Two things you don't hear anymore; Vin, and Diesel.

[blissful perch]

Only made worse by breeding

[blissful perch]

Idk. Souls like combat includes games that have amazing combat like monster hunter or (loosely) the horizon games. Both of which have excellent combat mechanics. I think it’s fair to be worried because it’s new and thus could be screwed up, but I also think it’s the best way to keep the gameplay fresh

I’d love to actually block and dodge a raptor instead of…hope I have flak that completely nullifies the damage or a weapon that can out dps it

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[blissful perch]

For PS it very well might be

[mint swan]

htym a si 2 kra

[wintry tangle]

what is ark 2 even about

[haughty nacelle]

uncomplete game not running properly, full of bugs and exploits same as ASE and ASA

[daring jetty]

ark 2 is a 3/10 ragebait

[molten nexus]

Will ark 2 be out before 2030?

[next shard]

Imagine if Rockstar did they same with gta 6, just never say anything about the game and let the release date go by like it's nothing

Vin diesel gotta be pissed

[unique stag]

Ark 2 doesn’t exist, outside of a concept trailer and maybe some art sketches. lol

[smoky bronze]

concept from 2 years ago*

at this point its outdated

[versed cosmos]

I think ark 2. There should be a Pve that wiped every year. Maybe have 3x rates all the time.

lol

Doesn’t have to be all

[thorn obsidian]

Will release before gta 7 hehe maybe

[smoky bronze]

bru

why is this a channel if we cant talk?

[stray elm]

Forgot this is the ark-2 channel.

[fallow niche]

This channel is for Ark 2. Use #general, #ark-survival-ascended, etc for ASA.

[stray elm]

Specifically for ark-2 related stuff.

[smoky bronze]

ark 2

that doesnt exist

so we cant talk about ghosts

[fallow niche]

Regardless, this channel is not for Ascended/Evolved.

[smoky bronze]

game doesnt exist why is this still a channel

[fallow niche]

It's releasing eventually, and because Wildcard wants it here.

[smoky bronze]

"eventually" its just full of copium

[stray elm]

Rules are rules.

Just her job to enforce them.

[odd prawn]

I hope they forget about ark 2. I have yet to hear anyone that has any interest. It’s going to bankrupt them and then…. No more ark at all

[obsidian glen]

It’s just going to be PvE kingdom

[frigid dragon]

its just gonna be a mobile game add after about 10 years of development but by then i hope wildcard get bought out by a different company and continues to make more unoptimized games that are about 1tb to download😁

[odd prawn]

Lmao exactly

[stark geode]

Ok

[torpid carbon]

its releasing eventually
🐎 💅

[distant bramble]

Ark 2 makes me moist

[true viper]

We're approaching the good timeline

[austere flame]

Hi, I like Ark. I love Ark. I would like Ark 2. Very nice that would be. Thank You.

[balmy stump]

It does exist lol 😆 there is a steam page

[dusty wraith]

And be a reskinned ASA 🤡

[inland lantern]

They are gonna find a way to sell us Ark Survival Evolved a third time and milk the DLC's again before Ark 2 is finished

[latent pilot]

What’s a ark 2 eh what’s a ark 2

[balmy stump]

I predict 2027

[glossy adder]

ark 2

[real token]

lol ark 1 is broken and they want start ark 2 lol 😂

[coral urchin]

if they start over on a whole new ground/script it will not be the same as ase/a.
so just relax, i dont think it will be the same issues, except if they use the same bad serverhosts.

[versed cosmos]

theyre probably set to have another 1 before 2.

ark the final chapter

ark 2 woldnt be as good anyways

[versed cosmos]

It be perfect. No empty servers. Have to do the hunt again. Start over on any map you want. Maybe 5x area.

[molten nexus]

Ark 2 should drop some time around the next great ice age.. can't wait, it's going to be the best game ever!!!

[patent current]

GTA 200 before ark 2

[unreal cloud]

Hope they have better Server 😂

[mint swan]

cant wait for ark 2 so i can be twice as dissapointed as i am now

[tall turret]

Ark 2 will be just as bad as pixel ark

[tall turret]

they can barely keep the servers running as it is and they been at it for years 😭

[viral crystal]

Ark 2 is free or nah?

[tall turret]

Ofc it’s free just like how they made pyros free? And the new map and the dreadmares and the new engrams and ascended it self they will for sure release a new game they been working on for MONTHS AND months jsur to get slight profit or even nothing

[stray elm]

Why would they make it free?

[viral crystal]

Please speak me in spanish

[viral crystal]

Pls speak me in spanish

[stray elm]

No

[viral crystal]

Please

[stray elm]

English only in this discord.

[viral crystal]

No

[tall turret]

99% of the people in this Dc speak English he’ll no

[viral crystal]

Oh

Thanks

[haughty hill]

is there a release date for ark 2

[mint swan]

Ark 2 is going to be the greatest disappointment in gaming history

[ruby olive]

'

[verbal field]

There isn’t really a hype up is there? How can it be a disappointment

[pulsar umbra]

No news about Ark 2. I might as well tell you that it won’t be out for several years, and by then we might even have GTA 7, or another company could take over Ark's concept. They'll have plenty of time to develop their game, and Ark 2 still won't be here

[prime fossil]

True like I think there will be a new ark every like 10-15 years but like what happened to overwatch I think ark concept will be dominated bye a different company that actually cares about its people.

[pulsar umbra]

Don’t worry, I know that ASA was created to fund Ark 2. In fact, if you followed the Community Crunch before ASA was released, they clearly explained, black and white, that ASA is there to fund Ark 2. But especially, my favorite bob, do you think Ark 2 is about to be released? Because I don’t know any company that would be dumb enough to release a game soon with no advertising and no information for years

[pulsar umbra]

True

[wanton pike]

GTA 9 before ARK 2

[ashen citrus]

Ark 2 literal ragebait

[worldly garden]

How is Ark 2 ragebait when it doesn't exist yet?

[prime fossil]

It’s the fact it’s a comforted concept that proves that ascendant was a cash grab we don’t want a new ark every 3-6 years bro

[untold ingot]

They shared videos when Ark2 was supposed to happen within 2 years

[cinder frost]

What 2 years

[unique stag]

Ark 2 exists only in concept art and a promotional hype trailer.

[worldly garden]

The 2 years after the trailer was shown.

[versed cosmos]

Yea. Hey everyone buy this game and you get the next one that’ll never come for free. Lol

[tight narwhal]

ark 2 doesnt exist

[smoky bronze]

it does

[viral crystal]

Hi

[muted thicket]

Hi ,who plays PS and can help with some questions?

[mint swan]

More console servers are being Dossed

Rippp

[grave marten]

Fix Asa first

[lone mango]

Hi

[quiet stream]

XD, ark 2 is the same as ASA

Just a way to get people hyped for it

So people could pay when it get launched

Ark survival evolved, many bugs, not fixed

Ark survival Ascended, many bugs, still on-going ( instead of fixing maps, they keep adding it, console players can't even play sometimes and servers are bad asf )

What will you think of Ark 2

You really think it will be a miracle ?

[indigo crater]

I hope ark 2 dosnt replace asa that would be real shit I want to have my offi pve run going on for 20 years xd

[thick moat]

well asa is being used to fund ark 2 in the end, so ark 2 will for sure have better foundation and much less game breaking problems

[quiet stream]

To do what ?, close all the progress people have on servers, just like ASE ?

[thick moat]

asa is supposed to be a replacement for people that don't want ark 2 (u will buy it anyways)

[quiet stream]

( real )

[thick moat]

so no, it shouldn't shut down

i hope

😂

[quiet stream]

We all stuck in the loop

Ase closing, buying ASA

Ark 2 coming out, gotta buy it

[unborn chasm]

What will ark 2 have, like new story maps?

[thick moat]

the steam page shows some of the new things

mind you it will still be a survival experience

[unborn chasm]

So same as ASA

[thick moat]

nah, not at all

[unborn chasm]

Is the steam page all the info we have

[thick moat]

nope, dev note shows a lot of the ideas of what they want ark 2 to be

[unborn chasm]

Where to find those

[thick moat]

https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/redefining-the-survival-genre-with-ark-2-and-an-update-from-our-studio-founders-r1949/

[unborn chasm]

Ip grabber ahh

[thick moat]

xDD, only survivetheark links work

if u put any others it doesnt let u

[unborn chasm]

Aii

[tawdry talon]

#1110925695900713072 Unless u server was made in ARK 2

[frank silo]

Heard a rumor ark 2 is out. Is it true?

[untold ingot]

No

[verbal sail]

Wait ark 2 isn't ark survival ascended? Incognito style?

[dusty quest]

Bring back the old ark..

[serene onyx]

It’s still here bruh just not official servers

[olive nimbus]

Ark 2 😂…

[gentle lotus]

Ark 2 is just a myth

[smoky bronze]

no

[cold crown]

2030

[neon rock]

you’re thinking about the wrong century, fools

[gritty mango]

@admin WHERE IS ARK 2

[serene onyx]

not done yet obv

[stable marten]

ark 2

[silver galleon]

with this shit of asc ark I never buy ark 2 I have lost a lot grown and bby Dino this week

[true viper]

I want to say that's english?

[proper cloud]

shit is never coming and i’m never buying

[fallen fiber]

ark 2 is an ancient myth

[potent osprey]

A folktale passed down from generations

[fallen fiber]

yet to reach its end

[true viper]

Something I would love to see in Ark II would be player character rigs that are just the base UE5 mannequins. There are a lot of really good animation packs for all kinds of thing that you would expect to see in an open world game. Personally speaking I think this would be really good for weapon mods in particular. Being able to easily introduce new animations for a modded weapon would help make them feel more unique and genuinely authentic in the game instead of just reusing animation assets from in the game.

Plus most of them are motion captured to the best of my knowledge, so quality wise is a cut above standard keyframe animating like you would see with a dino/creatures animations

[stray elm]

Thought it's possible to retarget the UE5 mannequin animations to the ARK rig?

[true viper]

Yeah you can retarget the rig, but it's a coin toss as to the quality of the retarget. Fixing it up would be far more work that what should be required imo.

[pulsar umbra]

What I hope for in Ark 2 are skins that we can either buy in the shop earn through Twitch drops, like in Rust. These skins should be usable when crafting an item, just like in Rust, because it creates an amazing economy. They should also highlight content creators more, allowing them to share more things with the community. This would help them generate additional revenue and promote their game through Twitch drops

[untold ingot]

I vehemently hope they do not do that.

I think the skin system should be as it is now. Some paid, but most free

[pulsar umbra]

The economy in Rust is incredible, and allowing people to buy skins or get them for free through Twitch drops or events is more than enough. Those who love Ark will pay for skins, as long as these skins are not pay-to-win game changer. We should look at games that are successful, and Rust is really amazing when it comes to skins and the economy. They also do a great job of promoting their game through Twitch drops.

[untold ingot]

Rust is also a totally different game that has not nearly had the amount of content ark does.

It's a totally different game. Ark does not have to copy rust any more than it should copy cod

Chess is also a popular game but I don't want ark more like chess

[pulsar umbra]

We're just talking about an economy with a skin system like Rust. You can earn skins for free through Twitch drops, in-game events, or buy them in the shop, which doesn't change the gameplay. People would enjoy collecting skins. Currently, skins in Ark have very little interest with the current system, and content creators using Twitch for skin are nonexistent for Ark, so there's much less promotion for the game, and also for the content creators who could benefit the players. Adding the system of using skins when crafting items would finally make skins interesting for both collectors and those who love skins. Just like in Valorant, Rust, or even MMORPGs that base their economy simply on skins. In Ark, people are forced to buy dinosaurs like the Shadowmane, or else in PvP you’re at a disadvantage, or buy a 10-euro Power Ranger skin for your Mek to shoot a laser beam because it’s strong. It’s not really a good system. Even though ASA is here to finance Ark 2, Ark 2 needs a sustainable economy that promotes the game, content creators, and offers a skin and shop system that works much better than the one currently in place, where all the basic skins lose their appeal. You die, you get them in your inventory, and there's no challenge in getting them anymore.

[untold ingot]

So your solution to adding new content to the game is to get rid of new in game dinos and items and instead add paid skins... I do not think ark needs to be more like rust at all. It's a totally different game. It doesn't need anything from rust

If you want to play rust play rust. But keep that crap out of ark

[pulsar umbra]

I don’t see what seems so bad to you. Valorant, Rust, and all the big MMORPGs use this system. We should take inspiration from it, and it generally appeals to people. I don’t understand why you’re so against it. Would you rather buy premium dinosaurs for 10 euros and force even those who don’t have money to pay so they don’t lose the advantage in the game? Personally, I don’t think it's a good system to force people to pay just to be on the same level as others

[untold ingot]

Ark pvp is 30% of the game. If it disappeared entirely ark would still be fine. I do not think changing the entire market scheme of ark into skins would change anything. It would not make the playerbase improve at all, playerbase is gained through gameplay not skins in game. As far as valorant rust and other big mmorpgs that's literally not something I want to see in ark at all.

[pulsar umbra]

I understand your point of view, but I think you're underestimating the impact skins can have. Even though Ark is primarily focused on PVE, 30% as you said play PVP, and it’s still a large community. But whether it’s PVP or PVE, skins can offer an alternative way to generate revenue without affecting the gameplay experience itself. Valorant, Rust, and other games have shown that skins can be a significant source of funding while preserving the integrity of the gameplay.

Regarding the player base, I'm not saying that skins are the only solution, but they can help maintain player interest without forcing them to pay for in-game advantages. Ultimately, the goal is to find a balance where players don’t feel forced to pay to not be disadvantaged, while still allowing the game to fund itself. Those who enjoy Ark and want a skin they like will pay for it, similar to Fortnite.

I respect that you don’t want to see this kind of system in Ark, but perhaps a model more focused on cosmetic skins could be an option to increase revenue without altering the fundamental gameplay. It could also encourage content creators to host events on Twitch, thus promoting the game for Wildcard for free on Twitch while players follow their favorite creators to get skins they like

[untold ingot]

Quit using chatgpt lol

[true viper]

Twitch drops are a terrible idea tbh. At a certain point those cosmetics will eventually devolve into a grab bag of 'carnival trinkets' and potentially spoil the look and appeal of what Ark II is promising. ASA is already suffering a bit of that via the power rangers collab, club ark etc. When games do this sort of thing they sacrifice the aesthetic of the world/universe you're meant to be experiencing. It cheapens the experience and turns it into something that could easily be found in other games.

[pulsar umbra]

??

[untold ingot]

Rust is as popular as it is because at any point you can restart fresh and Bob around. It's not popular because of the skins

[pulsar umbra]

I don’t fully agree. I admit that having skins like Power Rangers or Pokémon isn’t really in Ark’s universe, but having cool skins for our weapons or armor could be interesting

[untold ingot]

Ark is not that kind of game at all. Paid skins here would literally be seen as nothing but a money grab and would literally kill the game. Look how many people utterly despise the power Rangers skin pack

[true viper]

Right, but those skins and cosmetics should be relative to the setting they're a part of. Not just random nonesense that will sell like fast food.

[untold ingot]

There are cool skins right now. The difference is thst they are FREE

[true viper]

I'm excluding modders from my point here, because they're not the studio themselves. Even if that stuff can be found in premium mods, it doesn't bother me, because it's not a official product from WC.

Bobs Tall Tales, and hopefully True Tales found a happy medium imo

If I want to see outlandish cosmetics in a game, I'll play COD or Fortnite.

[untold ingot]

Btt was fantastic imo

[true viper]

With Fortnite, it's understandable, it's part of the games charm. It's when that same model gets adapted into other franchises where that model isn't appropriate that things begin to feel cheapened

[untold ingot]

I was a bit skeptical about it at first, and still don't really like dinos behind paywalls, but btt kept thst balance pretty good

[pulsar umbra]

Hmm, ok, I understand your point of view. Personally, I’ve talked a lot about it with my community and friends, and everyone agrees with my way of seeing things. But I respect your perspective on this system. I think it would be a great idea to implement it and highlight content creators, like with Twitch drops

Anyway, we have time. Ark 2 isn’t coming for at least 3 to 5 years xD

[untold ingot]

Everyone agrees with you? What community? I literally see maybe one person a month bring this up and it's always an overwhelming no

[true viper]

I want to say 2 years. What it seems like to me is that WC is using Lost Colony as a launching pad for the eventual release. They're tying that DLC explicitly to the game itself. True Tales is going to elaborate on Ark II some more, at least give us more narrative content like the ending of Tall Tales did.

2 years is when Ark II will restart full time production, and maybe a year and a half after that is when we'll see the early access launch, possibly sooner.

[untold ingot]

I think ark2 will be around June of 2027 or sooner

[true viper]

That does seem realistic considering all that we know

What I hope happens in the future is that all the non-story maps get handed off to contracted studios.

[untold ingot]

I don't really see that happening. They tried with center, and thst majorly caused issues

[true viper]

I get the feeling that Val and Fjord will be redone by Nekatus, and Jackson Lawrence and Excited Kangaroo are likely doing the same with Rag. Iso may redo Crystal Isles, but WC has been very quiet about that map in particular.

[pulsar umbra]

I’m talking about my French community when I mention it on Twitch, Discord, etc. But yes, I think 2027 is a good date, at least to get some information about Ark 2

[untold ingot]

Ye but iso is already part of wc staff

[true viper]

Yeah, it did, but at the same time I don't think that's a testament to the process itself, more so the quality of contracted studio

[untold ingot]

This is true, but that's not how businesses usually do things

[true viper]

Jackson Lawrence and Excited Kangaroo are at WC too. What I think might be happening there is that they're taking it upon themselves to work on those maps, almost like an independent study one might do in college. Just a thought of mine.

Could also just be cope, cause I really couldn't care less if they just breezed through the remaining maps, and moved onto greener pastures

[untold ingot]

So your motivation is that you are a twitch streamer and want more support.

Sorry it's rough but that's twitch. If you want easy twitch support probably pick a new game

[untold ingot]

I mean they did for ext for sure, that one massively changed. Ab was okay. And center was good.

[mint swan]

the way they manage ark 1 I would never buy ark 2

[tacit iron]

^

[short fox]

^

[true viper]

It's a bit of a mixed bag for why things are they way there are. With ASE it was understandable. It was WCs first game, and they didn't expect it to become as big as it is. Then comes the issues associated with Snail, which when WC decided to move onto Ark II, made ASA necessary and by virtue rushed because of Snails financial mismanagements. It would be nice if WC were able to deliver on their promise that ASA would be a from the ground up version of ASE, but as it stands right now, that won't happen until Snail is out of the hole, and all the pressure that made ASA necessary when it came out, goes away. That's just my two cents really.

I'd like to believe that WC was heading in a much more positive direction, game quality wise with Ark II before ASA became the next big thing, considering how well they were doing for themselves post Gen II on ASE. So from my perspective it's less about them not getting it right and 'fixing' the game than it is about 'when will they have the spare time to dedicate to an overhaul'.

I get and understand by why people go on about fixing the game, and not wanting Ark II because of that. It's perfectly logical reasoning, it's just more nuances than people grasp. Which at the same time, I won't fault the casual audience for not understanding.

[blissful perch]

Here’s the thing. This group has existed for every content release - why is there more content when the existing content isn’t fully polished? They say

The same people then often whip around and complain about the lack of content. It’s just tiring to read for ark 2, which is a game that’s intended to push the series forward rather than lose wc in an endless cycle of ark 1 items

[lethal hull]

They should just reintroduced a new set of official servers on ASE with fresh dino ripes to re scale the PVP, rather then releasing ASA. They split the player base re releasing the same game and seemed to have been forced to rely on micro transaction for mods to try and stay above water financially. The money used for ASA would of been better used on Ark 2. Now with this ddos and servers being down I'm sure there gonna be bleeding money fixing it and lose more player base

[cobalt walrus]

WELCOME TO ALPHA ARK!!!

https://discord. gg/njHAXT2g

New Ark server opening 07/03

Good configs and everything Balanced

Breeding x50 and farming x25

6man tribes

Shop and kits

Interesting mods and cave changes

450 $ Prize pool

[blissful perch]

I’ll say comfortably that ase was such a wreck code wise that I think something new had to be done regardless

Every tiny thing WC was doing to it at the end of its lifecycle was a big nightmare

[lethal hull]

Yeah asa is cleaner and you DC less, but the meshing and duping is just as bad arguably. Also the fact that ASE still maintains 22 to 25k monthly users without a supported official network to me shows there mistake

[blissful perch]

I’d argue it shows a success? Means that ark doesn’t need WC to spend loads of money hosting and managing official servers to maintain a strong playerbase

[lethal hull]

I don't disagree with your statement, my point was more to the fact that any improvements they made with ASA didn't seem to be enough of a draw to convince roughly 40% of the player base to spend the money on a new game (upgrading consoles play a part also obviously that's not always affordable for everyone)

Personally I regret the decision to buy it, everytime I get sucked back into official there seems to be not small issues every 30 or so days.

[blissful perch]

I regret buying Asa too, but that’s because ark 1’s design has just begun to irritate me at this point. So much grinding, and the reward is…mashing LMB to crush the PvE entirely. Just feels not worth it

[split dove]

he did fall asleep while fighting a skeletal bronto one time on ASE, i was there (time to get back to my workout)

[blissful perch]

Agree on the one hand, but I also think it’s not a 1:1 as there may be a crop of new to ark folks who showed up for asa. Either way, we gotta pray ark 2 actually moves the series forward

[lethal hull]

From my experience as someone who only really plays PVP, all the PVPers got sucked into ASA from ASE because they shut servers down. So it almost seemed like the only option as most boosted pvp servers are terrible and spread to thin

[untold ingot]

Why isn't this game (made by a reasonably small company) as good as X billion dollar game lol

[blissful perch]

Hilarious every time for sure. Just goofy stuff

[untold ingot]

Tbh nearly as many people play Asa as did ase

[lethal hull]

If you go by steam asa is like 45kish a month and ase is 25k

Just be nice to have the player base all in one game

[blissful perch]

Idk about that. I think if they ran officials on both THAT would be a huge error

But the playerbase has the choice, and that’s not a big deal…people play old games all the time and that’s fine

[split dove]

they were already low pop before getting axed, imagine how many more fully empty servers would surface

[blissful perch]

I mean the huge issue would be people demanding wc pay for both and suck up tons of money that is better spent on development

[split dove]

with said people moaning about them not spending money on development afterwards

[lethal hull]

That's not all the point I was making, just saying by re releasing the exact same game they split the player base. By forcing official shut a lot moved to asa, but by the player base numbers it clearly wasn't a good enough upgrade to draw all the un official players

[split dove]

i mean people legit asked Ark 2 to be ''Ark 1 but better and in Unreal Engine 5'' soooo

and that's how Asa was born

[lethal hull]

I'm not a computer expert but my point is that they could of just re started official networks on ASE for much less effort. To clean up the servers and give everyone a fresh go then focused all this energy into ark 2 and maybe we'd have a shot at seeing the game released before 2040

[untold ingot]

Currently as of now there are 26230 people playing Asa online on all platforms. That will surge this evening to probably close to 50k

[lethal hull]

I'm not familiar with the in and outs of developing ark 2, maybe 1 or 2 years wouldn't of been enough. But asa must of taken a lot of work to develop, I'm saying why not keep ase open and actually finish ark 2 instead of this debacle we have now

[untold ingot]

Yeah, and they wouldn't have been able to afford to develop Ark2 because snail nearly went under to other stupid decisions. If they hadn't made Asa, Ark2 would never have happened

[lethal hull]

Okay see that's a great answer lol. I wasn't aware

[untold ingot]

It took a year to get Asa up and running.

[untold ingot]

That and the incessant daily spam for a ue5 ase is the primary reason Asa exists

[lethal hull]

I was under the impression that asa was released as kind of like a money grab roster update like when EA you buy a new ea game every year

Basically pay for slightly better graphics and new dinos, then some good old in game purchases for skins and irrelevant items to keep the greenback flowing

[untold ingot]

Yeah, not really. There is some of tht. But snail stock went from $3 to 0.8 in like a month due to decisions related to ark and unrelated in a period of like a month. Asa is literally the only thing that saved snail and by extension wc

[blissful perch]

That and ase’s operating maintenance was costing way too much because it was so old

[untold ingot]

It cost less than asa I am 99% sure, but it wasn't generating income

[blissful perch]

Well that’s prolly true, but it wasn’t making money and likely asa servers are cheaper than ase per unit

[untold ingot]

Asa servers use more resources, I would be surprised if they are cheaper

[lethal hull]

Well i guess the did better then the dev team on veilguard🙃

[blissful perch]

I mean using ancient hardware may have cost them more in fees. Their comments about it made it seem like a huge sink

[untold ingot]

Yeah, I think that's marketing tho

[true viper]

That's never going to be the case anymore

[molten nexus]

Who all remembers the Ark 2 cut scene at the end of gen 2?

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[blissful perch]

Could be!

[true viper]

Back when the timeline was good

[hoary topaz]

.

[fallen fiber]

and thats on god

[cyan summit]

dArk Souls 2. Can't wait...

[heavy cliff]

Don’t bother with ark 2 if you can’t even run the current one right

[smoky bronze]

chat is this real

[foggy aurora]

Who saw the new trailer for Ark 2?

[topaz crane]

this shit never coming

[radiant vector]

Where??

[fallow niche]

Any official trailers will be shared and pinned in this channel, there have been no new videos atm

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[rocky hare]

100%

[round arrow]

What the point in this channel we all know ark 2 ain’t happening

Is this just to ponder on what could’ve been if the devs gave a single fuck ?

Respectfully 🫶🏻

[clever reef]

fr bro

[runic loom]

Ark 2 is like flying cars prople expected it, but we are no were near them

[stray elm]

Also, flying cars are impractical.

[true viper]

I'm interested to see what happens with the Lost Colony/Tall Tales marketing will look like. I suspect it may kick off the first week of april.

I really only say that because of the winks and nudges to Ark II imbedded in both of those.

[stray elm]

True Tales you mean?

[true viper]

Yeah True Tales, sorry

[tardy abyss]

Hi

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[untold ingot]

Technically speaking an overpass or a train takes the same functionality as a flying car and is much more safe lol

[untold ingot]

Helicopters, airplanes. What do you call those

[tame blade]

its like gta6

[vernal glen]

it like half life 3 or portal 3

[tame blade]

ion play either 😭

[vernal glen]

same

[tame blade]

u play asa smalls or norm offical?

[vernal glen]

i stopped playing asa cuz my 8 yo laptop sayed his max is 15 fps

was playing big officials

[tame blade]

haha tru

who tryna kit me up wit lvls n a base even maybe cen boss? ykykyk or rockwell

[stray elm]

Portal is a finished IP.
HLX is seemingly in post-production phase, so another Half-Life is likely to happen.
GTA6 is set to release this year.
I'd say ARK-2 is the biggest myth here, because outside of some hollow words on a store page, and two in-engine trailer that gave us nothing on gameplay. We have no confirmed leaks or anything for ARK-2 and what it'll actually be like.

[tame blade]

aint that wat they said abt gta6 like last yr or the year b4

[stray elm]

Don't think there's been ever an official release date until the first trailer.
All just fan speculation.

[tame blade]

naw swear they said it like last yr or the year b4

[vernal glen]

i think my tribe just ended it live anyway, they not writing anything in discord anymore

dam arb gang

[tame blade]

wym quit?

[stray elm]

The only trailer of it says "Coming 2025"

[vernal glen]

i think yes

[tame blade]

damn

[tame blade]

bro trust me when a aussie says smth they aint gon give it up

[vernal glen]

i remember how we was beating hydra ass from the abberation while it was closed

[stray elm]

[tame blade]

yo whats dazes offical conquest

[stray elm]

Either way, we have more information about these infamous games then we do of ARK-2.
Which, we live in a weird timeline if Half-Life 3 is unironically more likely to release before ARK-2 does.

[tame blade]

bro ion know that game tho so idek

[jade pebble]

when is Ark 2 coming

[stray elm]

We don't know.

[tame blade]

in your next life sorry

[vernal glen]

[tame blade]

ye

[cursive cloak]

so when is ark 2 comming out?

[vale shore]

Tomorrow

[ionic fern]

never

[torn fern]

Ark

[buoyant arch]

ark ascended is ark 2 anyone who disagrees is ugly

[serene onyx]

It’s just not tho bro

[lofty nymph]

real ones know it is and Ark 2 is just a myth

[serene onyx]

ark 2 is not asa sorry to burst your bubble!

[runic marsh]

when ark 2 is coming out we have to buy the game again?

[eager hinge]

GTA 6 dlc before ark2

[untold ingot]

All the people saying skins will fund Ark2, let's see how the animated skin pack fails lol

[stray elm]

I don't know man. The ARK community talks a lot of shit, yet eats up everything Wildcard has produced.

[worldly garden]

Why would a sequel of a game be free?

[vast wren]

when is ark 2 coming out

[deep idol]

Az least it's definitely better than power rangers

[daring jetty]

bro its just bad like they are trying hard to be fortnite

[true flume]

Recap; ark 2 carries evolved mechanics however it teeters more towards a pvp style, like sotf. Aliens like mirrors to the survivor(tribes, dinos, weapons etc.,.) Will be based around the map. Its release (like every ark related item with wc) has currently been paused as to fix asa and focus on bettering the maps' qualities

[daring jetty]

ark 2 is a snail propaganda to farm money from ark it will never be a thing

[wide brook]

ㄴㄷㅌ

[stuck meadow]

Is anyone hyped?

Cuz i am

Why did it delay so much

[daring jetty]

who's gonna tell him

[runic marsh]

will it be dlc

[worldly garden]

no it will be a brand new separate game like any other game.

[buoyant arch]

watch it be a dlc

[fallow niche]

I mean it's pretty clear it won't be, store pages and all xd

[covert tiger]

when is it meant to release/

[serene onyx]

no date yet

[languid cliff]

I can guess that its gonna be around Mid 2026 icl

or late 2025

[deep idol]

2027-29

[tacit bolt]

Im keeping my hopes low for Ark 2 until the store page in germany comes back

I highly doubt its happening this year considering they havent even bothered with giving the game an age rating on steam

[real lotus]

We have no gameplay of it despite it being 5 years in development

Plus too many hard to code stuff are blended in this thing, so for the moment i act as if it wont be real

[untold ingot]

Same for gta6

[stray elm]

We do have official prototype footage.

[daring jetty]

The thing is gta 6 will happen

[frigid merlin]

Will there be npc's in ark 2 like living civilization instead of ruins?

Maybe like rdr2 kind of npc instead of riding horse they ride dinos?

[fallow niche]

Have you watched the trailers by any chance? There are NPCs yep, the Aratai

[frigid merlin]

I haven't

Wheres the trailer

[fallow niche]

They are both in the pinned messages, however you can just check the wiki page if you'd like
https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/ARK_2

Sorry, wiki, not steam

[frigid merlin]

Its like farcry primal type?

@fallow niche is it gonna be a story game that you do mission?

[fallow niche]

For that part you can look at the steam tags. It will have co-op/singleplayer, multi-player pve and pvp. Both the wiki/store pages have all information that we know of
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2050420/ARK_2/

[daring jetty]

bro the thing is even we dont know wt the game is offering or how the game is gonna be its prolly still a concept

[rapid seal]

Why would we buy an Ark 2 when asa is so so so broken???????

[runic marsh]

when will it be released?

[worldly garden]

no-one knows

[blissful perch]

Goes to show you imo that ark 1’s design is a bit…off. There shouldn’t be mechanics that so easily lend themselves to real life payment between players

🙏 may ark 2 not require excessively tedious breeding

[desert swallow]

holy crap Shifter you're still here? Been posting here for years now?

[blissful perch]

Always. It’s how I cope with the lack of anything news

Though it’s been so hard to have a good design chat here because 90%+ of the posts have devolved to “coming out after gta 6 🤣🤣🤣🤣” which are functionally useless for starting a conversation

[cyan kernel]

I played smalls before ark 2 released but I’m looking to get back into it is everything on ark 2 now or what is the difference

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 has not released.

Use #pvp-discussion for Ark Survival Ascended pvp questions.

[upbeat spade]

bro ark 2 will require 128 GB and 3x 4080

if you wanna have at least 30 fps in cave

this game is modern crisis 1

[tacit bolt]

3 4080s would probably not perform well anyway

Much better than one 4080 would I mean

[tacit bolt]

(Ignoring that the 4080 doesnt support sli anyway)

[untold ingot]

3 GPU would perfome the same as 1,since unless I a severely wrong ark does not support multiple gpus

[slate urchin]

128gb storage or ram

[zinc jewel]

I'm ready!

[thick moat]

I can't believe first time I spoke in this chat was on 2021 and when i got more active was at the end of 2022 💀 have been talking around here for so many years now xD

it's funny seeing familiar faces all the time

[untold ingot]

Fr lol

[split dove]

[normal grove]

When was the last update about any info regarding Ark 2?

[untold ingot]

Like 2022?

[split dove]

for a crunch and any newly revealed gameplay things it was June of 2023. last time it was mentioned at all was briefly during extra life 2024 when Jeremy and Jesse were talking

[rare jungle]

Hi👋Is ASA available on epic(and if yes, for how much?) I can't find it there

[long sparrow]

there was the roadmap in the crunch when ASA was announced. (march 2023, crunch 355)
pretty sure there were others as well after but not much actual info just mentions.

@normal grove

[long sparrow]

No, ASA is steam/PC xbox only for PC platforms.
this channel is also for ark 2 not ASA.

[rare jungle]

Wait so ark 2 and ASA aren't the same thing???My bad i tought so. Thanks for still answering

[winged dome]

Old, faded Ark2 hopefuls, reporting in

[true viper]

Standing at attention 🫡

[deep idol]

No, ASA is just a remake. Epic doesn't supports mods(???), that's why wilcard didn't put it there

[long sparrow]

doubt it has anything to do with mods. just no reason to have 2 PC platforms that are the exact same.
epic didn't support mods in ASE because it used steam workshop

[fallow badge]

wouldnt it be cool if in ark 2 you could actual alter terrain and make like hobbit bases

[stray elm]

No

[violet tangle]

ark 2 is gonna be a flop🥲

[worldly garden]

such an original claim man, I don't know where people are coming up with these things 🤔

[little glacier]

Because asa is a flop🥲🙏😭

(Kinda)

[frigid merlin]

Pls make the character customization like monster hunter wilds

[viscid root]

atleast they are taking their time with ark 2

[blissful perch]

*game

[subtle pasture]

Bro idk what yall yapping about but these cutscenes are fire when u ascend

[untold ingot]

It's the same kinda flop ase was lol

[untold ingot]

Yeah, but that would kill performance on official and would be extremely unbalanced

[sudden jolt]

Ark 2 will work?

[true viper]

Too soon to tell, but I wager to guess the answer is yes

[icy orbit]

At this point i do not care if Ark 2 is bad. I just want to see what the gameplay looks like.

[reef thunder]

Ark since evolved never worked as it should be, i have no hopes on Ark 2

[icy orbit]

I know i want to see it though they have to have something right? It might be garbage for all i care.

[rough mauve]

Ark 2 is just a myth at this point 😂

[vocal kite]

there is setting you can adjust in your config to make it so you can have 100 fps on a 3070 and the game still look good with clouds on with asa now, when ark 2 comes out im sure there will be similar configs

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 has not released, so this setting does not exist for it.

[vocal kite]

fixed post

[vernal spruce]

I agree. The development cycle of the rest of ASA map launches continues until the last month of 2026. Maybe then ASA will come out of “early release”, so they can get some Alpha testing going on for ARK 2? Who am I kidding? They don’t test anything. Release and deal with it, people who buy it 😂

[stoic skiff]

Ark 2 is never coming out

[pulsar umbra]

2027 / 2030

[next grotto]

Nah

[clear oracle]

You have to understand, going into ASA they told us they know next to nothing about development in UE5. They’re doing what they can to develop ASA while at the same time learning more about UE5. And before you say simply copy and paste code from UE4, that’s not possible because of compatibility issues between the different versions. Yes, this game hasn’t exactly been what we were expecting. But in my opinion they’re doing more to fix bugs in this version of the game than they were capable of doing in ASE. So for those complaining about Ark II not releasing, it’s more complex than any of us can understand. It will release, just not anytime soon. My guess is they will release it after they release all of the content for ASA.

[nimble delta]

Calm down ain't that deep

[stoic skiff]

Keep huffing that copium

[clear oracle]

I’m willing to bet, in fact I know nobody here has even attempted to work with code as complex and confusing as UE4 or UE5…None of you seem to really understand what goes into writing and compiling this kind of code. So you wouldn’t know what goes into designing fixes for bugs and content creation. Yet you sit here day after day, complaining about how things are never going to release…

[blissful perch]

I mean think even more simply. Ark 1 is eventually gonna need a new game release, and what else to call it than Ark 2

[gleaming jungle]

I wonder if WildCard can beat Skyrim's record for number of times the same game is sold to you. </thisisajoke>

[marble egret]

They would never be able to Skyrim still has a huge player base

[gleaming jungle]

I'm still convinced there are more official/unofficial servers than there are players. x'D

[weak sluice]

thats a lot of assuming buddy tell that to all the modders for asa 😄

[untold ingot]

They were working with ue4 for a decade minimum, it's not like they were clueless 🤣

[untold ingot]

Lol, it's not that difficult

[untold ingot]

Doesn't cod hold that record?

[clear oracle]

UE5 is entirely different. The code from UE4 becomes obsolete with newer versions

[untold ingot]

Most of its actually portable, unless you mess with actual engine code, which ark did

[split dove]

i was more thinking Cod and Fifa games share that spot together

same game every year, just some slight changes but everything else remains almost exactly the same

[gleaming jungle]

Lol Maybe FIFA. x'D

[elder olive]

Meanwhile my shotgun doesn't like to register shots

[buoyant arch]

same thing happens to me its dumb

[harsh fox]

G

[light ridge]

They took the money an ran they Have 0 intentions of ever dropping ark 2

[stray elm]

Probably not until it's actually in full development.

[tribal chasm]

I wonder what happened to that guy who was thrown into the deep end and asked to develop Ark 2

Was kinda funny, he had a whole bunch of tweets which were all written like he was gritting his teeth about it all. Likewise half his tweets seemed to be 'I am so stressed doing this Ark 2 stuff! Can't wait to get back to developing my own game!'

[reef rampart]

when will ark 2 drop wasnt it supposed to drop 2022?

[worldly garden]

no idea who you are referring too.

[tiny glade]

Ark 2 is a myth

[split dove]

i think it might've been Craig Brown

[gleaming jungle]

If you had the option to sell Ark and all it's content rights to another game Studio so they could produce Ark 2, which game company would you pick? (Larian Studios is not allowed, Ark 2 would be too powerful if Larian touched it; Skyrim would never have the spotlight again.)

[dark bobcat]

We will see half life 4 before ark 2 comes out. Yall keep buying Asa dlc and this old broken game will continue for another decade

It’s another “forever game” and it’s infuriating . Player base with disposable income to spend on premium dlc is the issue . Why make a new game when your sheep will throw more money at your for the old one over and over

[reef rampart]

i havent finshed the island yet so am excited to do it after my exam and finish the lore but your right i find asa a waste and a pathetic cashgrab but what will ark 2 lore offer like ark lore was so peak you can shed a tear not sure about 2 wait is ark 2 in another planet or earth?

[dark bobcat]

I don’t think lore is the issue here or even the main reason to make a new game. Ark evolved is almost a decade old and honestly Asa isn’t bad . It’s a solid remaster of a game that not only looks old but is old. That being said ark asa should have never been released but it gives them the opportunity to make more money off of an almost 10 year old game . Let’s not pretend Asa is anything different than ark 1 cus it absolutely isn’t . It’s a remaster and a cash grab. People need to stop justifying the continuation of a decade old game which is slated for another decade run. Disappointed in the devs really, pretty shitty and lazy of them to just keep milking the dead ugly horse that is ark

[blissful perch]

Horrendous monetization policies in Asa aside, unless those make their way to ark 2 I see this as a separate gripe

[dark bobcat]

I’m all for paid dlc in ark 2 but this milking of a game built on an outdated engine with Xbox 360 graphics is beyond dumb imo

But brain rot kids will spend their moms money on premium mods so I think we’re stuck with this for the foreseeable future

Doesn’t make sense to upgrade the remaster when they could just make ark 2 with ue5 I genuinely don’t get the logic

[true viper]

A lot of it has to do with Snails stock price tanking in recent months. ASA came out in the state that it did, and delayed Ark II for the for seeable future because Snail was about to dissolve as a company to the best of my knowledge.

ASA as a game is also in someway a test bed for Ark 2, be it through means like lumen and nanite, or game specific entities like the Armadoggo and Battle Rigs.

[devout quiver]

GOOD

[acoustic plank]

sarna

[harsh fox]

E

@here

[strange frost]

2028

[daring jetty]

ark 2 is invalid it was the dinosaurs we tamed along the way

[muted patrol]

Is ark 2 ever going to come out?

[daring jetty]

it wont i bet my right foot sock

[tulip fulcrum]

@muted patrol at this point I would be very surprised if Ark 2 gets released

[muted patrol]

Mannn

[glacial summit]

2077 😎

[inland garden]

Hopefully ark 2 doesn’t change too much from ark 1

[untold ingot]

It will change a lot

[worldly garden]

It will change quite a bit as that is partly why ASA exists.

[harsh spear]

ark 2 would mean more money though

[modern goblet]

Is ark 2 gonna be story or kinda the same?

[worldly garden]

it's gonna have more story I think but it's not like a story mode or anything, it's still gonna be Ark.

[split dove]

at most it might be as ''story-oriented'' as the missions from Genesis 2 were, seeing as there will be dynamic world-events and the Aratai that will be a thing on the map

[finite elbow]

What would be the point of making ark 2 when they have a awesome thing going already… they just need to fix some stuff

asa is awesome and the base ark game is one of my favourite games I have ever played

[true viper]

To hopefully have a better optimized Ark game, and newer gameplay systems that just don't have a role in the current sandbox.

[hot scroll]

Surely this a joke ay ark is terrible even base game is broken the amount of bugs etc is unreal

Bring on ark 2 quickly

[true viper]

Souls like combat (combo attacks/root motion attacks etc) would be great in a game like Ark, but would dramatically shake things more out of balance in the current game.

What I would hope is the case, is that WC is looking at Ark II as a means to set a new baseline standard that the current game just doesn't support. More ways to interact with Dinos/NPCs, movement modes ablities etc.

[hot scroll]

Just a game that works would be a dream

[true viper]

I have to imagine that WC would want to be working with a more stable version of UE5 than the one they're currently using. Unfortunately I just don't see a massive in engine-overhaul being likely for ASA in the same way it was for the Isle.

Still hopeful we'll hear something more definitive by the time Lost Colony roles around

[astral grail]

I thought that ark 2 was going to come out in 2024 but we are past that now so is there any update to when it will come out?

[true viper]

Right now it's presumed to be either 2026 or 2027 based on the current ASA roadmap we have

[astral grail]

thats so long 😦

[untold ingot]

Lol

[true viper]

It is, but unfortunately, that's just whwere we are at the moment.

Things may change too, because right not nothing is confirmed. Everything is just speculation on our end.

[small mortar]

Ima be a whole grandpa by time ark 2 come out im already pushing 30

[worn sun]

i saw something about celebration of 10 years in next 2 days? maybe finally some new info?!

[untold ingot]

Don't count on it

[muted patrol]

PLEASE

[true viper]

That would be nice. I think it's pretty unlikely considering how hands on WC is with ASA at the moment.

I would hope differently though

[stable hollow]

hi

I have a question. How can I die without the loot being lost? If someone knows, please tell me.

[untold ingot]

In Ark2? It's not out yet. No one knows

[stable hollow]

in ark ascended

[untold ingot]

This is Ark2 channel, ask in #bobs-with-probs

[stable hollow]

Thank you

[hollow summit]

will there be new creatures in ark 2??

[untold ingot]

Obviously

[hollow summit]

liek?

like?

[long sparrow]

they haven't said much about them. there are a few seen in the trailers tho.

[lucid rivet]

ok so why are the making ark 2 if ascended is just 1 year old

[pallid stratus]

Ascended came out in 2023

[stray elm]

So far confirmation are the Aratai's, and possibly the leaf lizard from the trailer.

[long sparrow]

ark 2 is continuing the story. ASA is a remaster to the original story.
ark 2 will also allow them to introduce more then what can be in ASA. since everything and anything can be different.

[hollow summit]

wow

[lucid rivet]

oh wow so money farm lol

[stray elm]

Welcome to capitalism.

[long sparrow]

if thats how you see sequels.

[lucid rivet]

and for ark 2 you will need at least a 4060

[stray elm]

No, a 4090

[long sparrow]

I doubt it will be much different to ASA.

[lucid rivet]

ah yes

[lucid rivet]

im still playin ase

😎

[long sparrow]

the spec requirements will be massively different to ASE lol

[icy orbit]

7090ti minimum

[crisp skiff]

Im calling it . . . Ark 3 is already delayed

[untold ingot]

A 4060 isn't even good lol

[lucid rivet]

I know but maybe that minimum

[fringe dagger]

a

[mossy ivy]

I havent even bought anything yet

Am broke as hell

[untold ingot]

Ark2 will require the same specs as asa

[true viper]

Helena is talking to Meeka in the Lost Colony teaser trailer that just came out

[thick moat]

ark 2 is alive.

[true viper]

That's most likely the end credits scene if I had to guess

[thick moat]

wait its meeka

i didnt even notice

possibly something to do with the Bob's Real Tales or whatever it was called?

[true viper]

No, that's going to be Gen I and II. Not Lost Colony

[stray elm]

True Tales

Like Train said, probably a post-credit for Lost Colony. But an actual ARK-2 cutscene.

[thick moat]

Helena on ark 2 DAMMMN

it does make sense

[stray elm]

Also, HOORAY
Helena doesn't look that uncanny compared to Extinction. 🐟

[true viper]

I don't think it's an actual cutscene, it's taking place before the events of the game

[inland garden]

Can you still tranq Dinos in ark 2 and tame them

[fallow lion]

Anniversary but no ark 2

[steep flax]

they are dedicating their resources to ASA and Ark 2 is what they are saying. ASE is now a thing of the past to them now

[fallow lion]

Hope so hope so

Ase still good enough for me, asa with no leveling speed not for me

[fallow niche]

Everything we know is in pins

[stray elm]

Technically the Lost Colony trailer with Helena could possibly be ARK-2

[inland garden]

oo ty

[long sparrow]

pretty sure that was meeka talking so yeah.

[stray elm]

And it looked like ARK-2's more defined art style.

So, something happens in Lost Colony/Gen1-2 for her to get reincarnated as a human again.
Which means there is a way out from being a Homo-Deus.

[velvet venture]

That ark 2 trailer was peak

[long sparrow]

its entirely possible she just has the memories from the arks. santiago and bob do afterall.

[stray elm]

Sure, but that would mean there's two Helena's currently.

[long sparrow]

depending on when genesis happens there were 2 santiagos

genesis ship santiago and ark santiago could've been at the same time

[stray elm]

Pretty sure Gen-ship Santiago was confirmed in the notes to be during The Collapse.

[long sparrow]

thought it was just the memories were from the collapse but he was a clone on the ship?

[untold ingot]

The words Ark2 were mentioned for the first time in like 2 years lol

[stray elm]

Wait, which Santiago are we talking about?
Gen2 note or Gen2 post credit/ARK-2 Santiago?

[long sparrow]

ark 2 santiago is obviously post genesis lol.
there is a santiago on the genesis ship from before we got there.
depending on when that takes place it could be at the same time as ark santiago existed.

[stray elm]

Yeah, that's the Gen2 note Santiago.
Which if I recall, was during The Collapse.

[long sparrow]

yeah, genesis santiago was during the contruction lol. way before.

I thought there was another santiago with the group of gen2 ship people against rockwell lol

[stray elm]

The construction was during The Collapse I believe.
"I think" the Collapse spanned from when the ARK's/ship was being formed to the extinction of all life on Earth.

[long sparrow]

I meant before as in the arks. since it was while they were being contructed 😂

[mint swan]

Does somebody know when will game be relased

[shadow birch]

Never

[deep idol]

2027-30

[bronze sandal]

2026-06-01

[fallow lion]

Eh ark lost colony basically the gap we missing years ago when they announ ark gen 1

What happen between extin and Gen1

And to explain the teaser we have at the end of ex when it first come out

[frank ibex]

after gta 7

[safe fern]

ark-2 isnt real

[sterile knot]

The fact we got ASE content before any Ark 2 updates is crazy .

[hollow summit]

haha

[agile panther]

Y’all see the Arat Prime trailer?

[true viper]

Having Meeka in the trailer was pretty wild

[agile panther]

Why so?

[true viper]

I just didn't expect them to play that card tbh

Lost Colony was always going to bridge ASE/A with Ark II to a degree, but to come face to face with Meeka in an ASA DLC was a not on my radar.

What I think is going on there is that the cutscene in question is within the Ark II timeline, but not an actual cutscene from the game.

[split dove]

pretty sure it was Helena in the cutscene when she's talking to Meeka. it looks exactly like Helena and iirc Helena and Meeka don't like that much alike

[worldly garden]

Meeka wasn't in the trailer visually, only her voice.

[true viper]

Right, but she was in the scene with Helena, just not the frame

[agile panther]

Who is Meeka again?

[fallow niche]

Santiago's kid in Ark2

[agile panther]

wouldn't Helena be Homo Deus Helena by that time?

[true viper]

She is, at least that version of her

[agile panther]

So is she like a in dream Meeka’s having or is she visiting her in ‘human form’

[true viper]

Visting in human form. That scene is taking place either during or before the events of Ark II

[agile panther]

seems like an odd thing for her to do. didn't she 'fade' after making HLN-A?

[true viper]

Something like that, but the animated series has already retconned a lot of the existing lore.

The timeline is a mess right now

[agile panther]

that sucks. wish it stuck to the existing lore. makes Aberration very awkward also due to Diana and Mei-yin's relationship vs Helena and Mei-yin's

wonder why they chose that. for drama?

[true viper]

Possibly, it all seems very needless to me. But it if brings us closer to Ark II, I really don't care

I'd also prefer if Helena were to stay dead, and not come back in Ark II. That's just me.

[agile panther]

That would make sense

Would be weird to have her there when she’s been a background character to our survival journey and essentially fades after makes HLN-A, who I would rather have tbh

[true viper]

Maybe part of the reason why Helena is presumably coming back in Ark 2 is because of all the neurotic hate Vin Diesel got when he was shown in the first reval trailer

That's just speculation on my end

[agile panther]

maybe

[untold ingot]

Ark Aquatica tho, definitely makes me less excited about Ark2.

[true viper]

That's a Snail led project, not WC

[agile panther]

that or the people behind the new story are not letting her exit the story when she should. I did wish they kept the OG voice actor for her. she sounded way better

[untold ingot]

Yeah, but still. I hope it's not a indication that snails gruby hands are more involved in Ark2

[true viper]

Helena's gone through so many composition changes, it's hard for me to think of her as a character anymore. She's becoming less on a someone than a something.

[untold ingot]

Tbh, that's kinda the point?

[true viper]

Until Snail either tanks, or WC divorces themselves from Snail, they'll have a hand to play

[untold ingot]

Let's hope Aquatica tanks them then

[true viper]

Even before she evolved into an homo deus, she's had her overall composition changed a few times for seemingly no narrative dependent reasons.

[agile panther]

yeah. i hated when they originally changed her voice. it sounded so dead and robotic. like 'oh you did it' not 'heck yeah mate, you did it!'. they unaustralianed her too

i think the newest voice is ok but i'd rather the original voice actor come back to voice her

I do love Mei-yin's voice actor though. totally what i would expect her to sound like

idk maybe i'm just being a hater

[true viper]

Voice actor aside, her physical composition and relationship trees has changed quite a bit, and thrown the narative of the notes into the wind.

More so with the relationship trees, than the physical composition.

[agile panther]

why so the physical composition?

[true viper]

Well cause it essentially makes her a different person compared to how she was originally depicted on the ASE box art.

Helena then and Helena now are two physically different people.

[agile panther]

that is true. wasn't her head a little taller or something? I swear Helena was kinda a stick in the old art

[true viper]

She did have a bit of a bubble head going on yeah

[agile panther]

i do like her parasaur though

scary is a very good parasaur

[blissful perch]

Is this Atlas 2? I’m hearing rumors of it but have nothing concrete to read. Praying it’s not getting in the way of ark 2 in any fashion (since weird spinoffs seem to siphon staff to these side projects labeled as “not WC”)

[split dove]

Ark Aquatica is ...... a ASE Water DLC made exclusively by Snail games. so it shouldn't get in the way of Ark 2

[stray elm]

It's confirmed by Snail Games. It's a new ASE expansion

[blissful perch]

An ASE expansion. In 2025-2026?

[stray elm]

Yep

June 2025 is the official release date

[blissful perch]

Glad to see snail is behaving as expected

[stray elm]

And for some reason it seems it'll have some narrative ties to the ARK IP. Even though it's on the, now considered non-canon version of ARK-1.

[blissful perch]

How about “unsupported”

Hilarious they’d add new content to the unsupported, not-remastered ark 1 game. At best it’s a weird bit of inspiration for ark 2, at worst it’s a nightmare lol

[stray elm]

Well, here's what gets me about the narrative they're proposing